ROL_2009-11-06_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

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[00:13.000 --> 00:27.000]  Chomsky said the U.S. operates under the Mafia principle, explaining the Godfather does not tolerate successful defiance and must be stamped out so others understand disobedience is not an option.
[00:27.000 --> 00:42.000]  Fort Hood, the military base that was the scene of a mass shooting Thursday, has been hard hit by the growing strain on the army from multiple combat deployments, with its personnel suffering the highest number of suicides since the Iraq invasion.
[00:42.000 --> 00:56.000]  The UN's nuclear watchdog has asked Iran to explain evidence suggesting that Iranian scientists have experimented with an advanced nuclear warhead design that makes it easier to put a nuclear warhead on a missile.
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[01:06.000 --> 01:18.000]  In China, two people have died, a town of 10,000 people is under quarantine, and the area inside a 17-mile radius around it has been sealed to contain an outbreak of pneumonic plague.
[01:18.000 --> 01:27.000]  Two people have died from a highly contagious disease, one of the most virulent and deadly diseases on Earth, usually fatal within 24 hours.
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[01:59.000 --> 02:05.000]  There are reports pneumonic plague is currently sweeping Ukraine.
[02:05.000 --> 02:17.000]  A former UK army officer says the Afghan national police have been penetrated by the Taliban at every level, and officers are poorly trained, corrupt, with some addicted to drugs.
[02:17.000 --> 02:29.000]  Captain Doug Beatty, who served two tours in Afghanistan working with the ANP, said many police officers are in the pay of insurgents and were more loyal to their tribes than the Afghan government.
[02:29.000 --> 02:38.000]  British officers said that among low-ranking Afghan police, and particularly in more rural areas, there is widespread corruption and disloyalty.
[02:38.000 --> 02:46.000]  Beatty said some of the ANP helped the Taliban and drug warlords get opium and heroin onto the international market.
[02:46.000 --> 02:52.000]  The police are poorly paid and educated, earning about $200 a month, so are vulnerable to corruption.
[02:52.000 --> 03:17.000]  There have also been reports of sexual abuse by police that has antagonized the local population.
[03:22.000 --> 03:45.000]  I received my remedy today, came in a box just like they say, I accepted it for value right away.
[03:45.000 --> 04:14.000]  Okay, a good friend Pat is hanging in there, hanging up there, hanging out up there on top of that tower, so to speak.
[04:14.000 --> 04:27.000]  And we had a couple of questions on the Skype chat wanting to, someone, a friend of mine wants to know what are the risks, if any, or any areas where the process could possibly break down,
[04:27.000 --> 04:32.000]  or is this 100% guaranteed as long as the procedures are completed correctly?
[04:32.000 --> 04:45.000]  All right, what you're doing here is you're getting an original copy of the original patent for the piece of property that your piece of property is extracted from.
[04:45.000 --> 04:48.000]  That's just a historical document.
[04:48.000 --> 04:57.000]  You have a survey that defines your piece of property within that larger piece of property that's called out for in the patent.
[04:57.000 --> 05:04.000]  That's just a descriptive document and is sworn to by the surveyor.
[05:04.000 --> 05:08.000]  He's licensed, he's bonded, and he's insured.
[05:08.000 --> 05:15.000]  So what he's stating is this piece of property is physically this and it is right there.
[05:15.000 --> 05:19.000]  So those two things, you know, it's very straightforward.
[05:19.000 --> 05:24.000]  There's nothing that can go wrong with that.
[05:24.000 --> 05:31.000]  The third thing you have to have is a certified copy of your deed.
[05:31.000 --> 05:43.000]  Well, if you bought it, even if you still have a mortgage on it, hopefully that deed is clear, correct, and a legal document.
[05:43.000 --> 05:46.000]  If it's not, then you've got a problem.
[05:46.000 --> 05:58.000]  That would be the only piece of property, piece of paper that I could think of that would be, at this point, that could come into question.
[05:58.000 --> 06:10.000]  If you have a good deed, whether it be a warranty deed, a special deed, or as in our case, a deed deed, there's nothing wrong with it.
[06:10.000 --> 06:19.000]  It's a notarized piece of paper. It describes a very particular piece of property at a specific location.
[06:19.000 --> 06:27.000]  It tells you who sold what to whom, and hopefully you're the person that it was sold to.
[06:27.000 --> 06:38.000]  So all that shows is that you currently own that piece of property, that descriptive document, and it's a legal document.
[06:38.000 --> 06:46.000]  So with those three things, that's the beginning of your packet, and you need two copies of each.
[06:46.000 --> 06:57.000]  What I recommend everybody do is you go online to teamlaw.org at this point.
[06:57.000 --> 07:11.000]  And Team Law is a private organization. Mr. Madsen and his people out there, they have been doing this for a long time.
[07:11.000 --> 07:24.000]  And Mr. Madsen is older than I am, and what they've taken is the original process of bringing the assignment forward.
[07:24.000 --> 07:30.000]  In other words, you're going to take your piece of property on your deed,
[07:30.000 --> 07:41.000]  and you're going to move it back out of a deed color of ownership into patent ownership.
[07:41.000 --> 07:45.000]  They have a form, which they'll fill out for you.
[07:45.000 --> 07:55.000]  And if you're not a member, not a member, but a beneficiary of their organization, which is rather expensive,
[07:55.000 --> 08:04.000]  then to get them to do these two pieces of paper that you need done by them will cost you $250.
[08:04.000 --> 08:13.000]  But this is ironclad. When you get this stuff back, you go over, you get it notarized, and you file it.
[08:13.000 --> 08:15.000]  Where do you file it?
[08:15.000 --> 08:20.000]  The county clerk's office in the Property Records Division.
[08:20.000 --> 08:32.000]  You get it filed with your current deed, because what you're doing is this whole packet, patent, survey, deed,
[08:32.000 --> 08:44.000]  and then these two other forms, which is going to transfer it out of deed and back to patent.
[08:44.000 --> 08:48.000]  The first one is basically a transfer deed from yourself to yourself.
[08:48.000 --> 08:56.000]  The second one is your acceptance of assignment of the patent.
[08:56.000 --> 09:02.000]  And it has to be over your signature, and it has to be notarized.
[09:02.000 --> 09:09.000]  And then once you do that, once you get these documents back from Team Law and once they're filed with the county clerk,
[09:09.000 --> 09:18.000]  do you then take those documents to the appraisal district and demand that your property be removed from the tax roll?
[09:18.000 --> 09:26.000]  Why? You can. Most of the time, like in Austin and in other big cities,
[09:26.000 --> 09:34.000]  most of your appraisal clerks are going to look at you like a cow looking into a headlight.
[09:34.000 --> 09:39.000]  They are going to disavow all knowledge of a land patent.
[09:39.000 --> 09:43.000]  They're going to wind up sitting down with a head appraiser.
[09:43.000 --> 09:54.000]  In San Antonio, the assessor, appraiser, and collector is one person, and she's elected.
[09:54.000 --> 09:58.000]  And in other areas, I'm not exactly sure how it goes.
[09:58.000 --> 10:06.000]  Here where I live now, the sheriff is the collector, and we have an appointed appraiser
[10:06.000 --> 10:14.000]  who's only had one job in his entire life, and he's about five years older now.
[10:14.000 --> 10:20.000]  But like I said last night, his property is on patent, and no, he doesn't pay tax.
[10:20.000 --> 10:23.000]  So he's very well aware of it.
[10:23.000 --> 10:33.000]  I understand that getting the patent isn't guaranteed that the tax office is going to listen to you.
[10:33.000 --> 10:41.000]  What it does do, though, is it is absolute proof of true ownership.
[10:41.000 --> 10:46.000]  It will not get you out of your mortgage, because that's a contract.
[10:46.000 --> 10:53.000]  How would true ownership affect municipal ordinance?
[10:53.000 --> 10:57.000]  There is no jurisdiction on your property.
[10:57.000 --> 11:05.000]  So if I have brought forward the land patent, then I can tell the city to go scratch.
[11:05.000 --> 11:09.000]  You can tell them to do anything you want to tell them to do, and they can't touch you.
[11:09.000 --> 11:12.000]  I own property right next to City Hall.
[11:12.000 --> 11:14.000]  That's going to be a hoot.
[11:14.000 --> 11:24.000]  So that's a way to be able to blow off, like, building codes and, you know,
[11:24.000 --> 11:28.000]  zoning restrictions and stuff like that.
[11:28.000 --> 11:30.000]  They have no jurisdiction.
[11:30.000 --> 11:36.000]  So here's the other question I have, and this kind of goes to the procedure I was discussing earlier
[11:36.000 --> 11:41.000]  where I want to get this other gentleman to come on the air to discuss.
[11:41.000 --> 11:45.000]  Once somebody has all the documents that you're discussing, like you said,
[11:45.000 --> 11:54.000]  this is no guarantee that the appraisal district is going to remove your property from the tax roll.
[11:54.000 --> 12:02.000]  And so what somebody would have to do at that point, if the appraisal district, whoever the head is,
[12:02.000 --> 12:07.000]  is unwilling or is playing dumb or whatever, unwilling to declare, you know,
[12:07.000 --> 12:12.000]  put your property classified as private property and take you off the tax roll,
[12:12.000 --> 12:17.000]  that's when I guess the procedure would come in that I was describing earlier
[12:17.000 --> 12:22.000]  where you would have to request a list of all properties that they have interest in
[12:22.000 --> 12:26.000]  and then confirm with a second letter that your property is not on that list
[12:26.000 --> 12:34.000]  and then go to the court to ask for an order declaring your property to be private property,
[12:34.000 --> 12:39.000]  and you would show your evidence would be everything that you got from Team Law
[12:39.000 --> 12:41.000]  and all the research that you did regarding the patent
[12:41.000 --> 12:45.000]  and then also the communications, the correspondences from the appraisal district
[12:45.000 --> 12:47.000]  showing that they have no interest in your property
[12:47.000 --> 12:51.000]  to ask the judge for an order declaring your property private property
[12:51.000 --> 12:54.000]  and then the appraisal district wouldn't have a choice.
[12:54.000 --> 12:58.000]  They would have to remove your property from the tax roll.
[12:58.000 --> 13:00.000]  Is that correct, Pat?
[13:00.000 --> 13:02.000]  Well, I would do that.
[13:02.000 --> 13:08.000]  Basically what I'd do is sue for injunctive relief and ask for estoppel at the same time.
[13:08.000 --> 13:14.000]  The estoppel will stop the taxes and the collection actions of the taxes,
[13:14.000 --> 13:19.000]  and the injunctive relief is to remove your property from any and all tax rolls
[13:19.000 --> 13:25.000]  and show that it's not within their jurisdiction.
[13:25.000 --> 13:32.000]  Now, would you also have grounds to sue to recover all taxes that you had paid
[13:32.000 --> 13:35.000]  up until that point since you bought the property?
[13:35.000 --> 13:38.000]  That's a gray area and I'm not real sure about that.
[13:38.000 --> 13:44.000]  I haven't looked into it in depth.
[13:44.000 --> 13:52.000]  There's a possibility because ad valorem taxes as they're written for the state
[13:52.000 --> 13:59.000]  only apply to commercial property, not to private property.
[13:59.000 --> 14:04.000]  And as they're being collected, it's a fraud.
[14:04.000 --> 14:07.000]  You could kill the case.
[14:07.000 --> 14:09.000]  Say again?
[14:09.000 --> 14:11.000]  I said, didn't I say that?
[14:11.000 --> 14:13.000]  So that could kill the case as far as...
[14:13.000 --> 14:15.000]  I think you did, Eddie.
[14:15.000 --> 14:17.000]  So as far as trying to recover...
[14:17.000 --> 14:24.000]  And the stuff you've already written covers it exactly.
[14:24.000 --> 14:31.000]  And I would definitely ask for the estoppel, if nothing else, go in for injunctive relief
[14:31.000 --> 14:43.000]  and at the same time file for the estoppel on collection actions, any tax, appraisal, everything.
[14:43.000 --> 14:47.000]  And the injunctive relief is to get it taken off their...
[14:47.000 --> 14:52.000]  done all the way back to the date that you bought the property.
[14:52.000 --> 14:58.000]  At that point, if the judge signs that order, then you've got grounds to go back
[14:58.000 --> 15:06.000]  after the money that was paid in incorrectly.
[15:06.000 --> 15:07.000]  Well, what about this?
[15:07.000 --> 15:11.000]  If we can show fraud on the part of the appraisal district,
[15:11.000 --> 15:15.000]  then maybe that would be a cause of action where we could go back
[15:15.000 --> 15:18.000]  and recover all the money we had paid into taxes.
[15:18.000 --> 15:23.000]  Well, proving the fraud is going to be difficult
[15:23.000 --> 15:27.000]  because you're going to have to prove their knowledge.
[15:27.000 --> 15:34.000]  Now, screws versus U.S., I understand, but...
[15:34.000 --> 15:40.000]  And I talked to two attorneys about this, and one of them is a judge now,
[15:40.000 --> 15:44.000]  so his IQ dropped about 50%.
[15:44.000 --> 15:54.000]  But the burden of proof to prove the fraud has to deal with the burden of proof
[15:54.000 --> 16:00.000]  of the knowledge of the individual that supposedly committed the fraud.
[16:00.000 --> 16:06.000]  Unless you can prove that they had actual knowledge, training,
[16:06.000 --> 16:12.000]  they read whatever it is that was supposed to have been read,
[16:12.000 --> 16:14.000]  then you're going to have a real uphill battle.
[16:14.000 --> 16:17.000]  The court will not entertain it.
[16:17.000 --> 16:20.000]  And I understand how the courts work, believe me.
[16:20.000 --> 16:27.000]  I've been through this little nut roll on a couple other things.
[16:27.000 --> 16:32.000]  The people, the justice system, unfortunately,
[16:32.000 --> 16:39.000]  is there to protect the other public servants, not the other way around.
[16:39.000 --> 16:44.000]  Okay, listen, we're going to break, and we've got Gary on the line
[16:44.000 --> 16:49.000]  with a question for you, Pat, so just hang on.
[16:49.000 --> 16:53.000]  We can open up the phone lines for callers, but please, you've got to be on point.
[16:53.000 --> 16:56.000]  You've got to be on topic, because Pat's hanging in there,
[16:56.000 --> 17:00.000]  hanging up there on the tower. We'll be right back.
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[18:02.000 --> 18:07.000]  Well, don't let nothing get to you. Only the Father can deliver you.
[18:07.000 --> 18:13.000]  Don't let bad-minded people hurt you until they can get behind you.
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[18:16.000 --> 18:39.000]  I'm all I've got, children.
[18:47.000 --> 18:50.000]  Okay, we are back.
[18:50.000 --> 18:55.000]  All right, so bottom line is this whole land patent process,
[18:55.000 --> 19:04.000]  this establishes very clear and irrefutable proof that you have true ownership of the property,
[19:04.000 --> 19:11.000]  but that in and of itself, people, is not necessarily going to get your property off the tax roll, okay?
[19:11.000 --> 19:17.000]  And you have to get the appraisal district to remove your property from the tax roll,
[19:17.000 --> 19:21.000]  and that is not necessarily going to be an easy thing.
[19:21.000 --> 19:26.000]  Now, in the county where Pat is, he's in very rural south Texas.
[19:26.000 --> 19:30.000]  Property taxes are, what, 30, 40 bucks a year or something on hundreds of acres.
[19:30.000 --> 19:35.000]  They've got, you know, less than 200 people in the county, and everyone knows each other.
[19:35.000 --> 19:44.000]  So, I mean, the county isn't losing that much money, 20 bucks big deal, to remove someone's property off of the tax roll.
[19:44.000 --> 19:53.000]  Now, if you live in Travis County, you live in Harris County, Tarrant County, you know, places like this, it's going to be a different story.
[19:53.000 --> 19:58.000]  And there are rural areas where the property taxes are very high.
[19:58.000 --> 20:06.000]  I know people that live up in a little town called Brownsboro, up off of Highway 31 on the way to east Texas,
[20:06.000 --> 20:13.000]  some of my family members, very rural area, and their property taxes are absolutely outrageous.
[20:13.000 --> 20:17.000]  Their tax rates are higher than Westlake Hills here in Austin.
[20:17.000 --> 20:24.000]  So, depending on where you are and how big the revenue scam is, they're not going to just roll over
[20:24.000 --> 20:32.000]  when you bring all these documents to them, you probably are going to have to seek an injunction, like what Pat is saying.
[20:32.000 --> 20:39.000]  And I'm going to try to get this gentleman on the air that I was referring to earlier to describe this specific process
[20:39.000 --> 20:47.000]  regarding getting the court order to force the appraisal district to take your property off of the tax roll.
[20:47.000 --> 20:51.000]  So, at this point, do you want to take a phone call, Pat?
[20:51.000 --> 20:53.000]  We've got Gary from Texas on the line.
[20:53.000 --> 20:54.000]  Go ahead, Gary, go ahead.
[20:54.000 --> 20:59.000]  But I say don't be afraid of these guys, especially if you have jurisdictionary and no court procedure.
[20:59.000 --> 21:00.000]  Go for it.
[21:00.000 --> 21:02.000]  I mean, what have you got to lose?
[21:02.000 --> 21:04.000]  You have absolutely nothing to lose.
[21:04.000 --> 21:05.000]  You've got nothing to lose.
[21:05.000 --> 21:06.000]  They're your public servants.
[21:06.000 --> 21:07.000]  Yeah.
[21:07.000 --> 21:13.000]  And I mean, it's not like I wouldn't recommend to anyone, I mean, I'll just say if it were me, we don't give legal advice here,
[21:13.000 --> 21:18.000]  I wouldn't be a tax protester and not pay during this process,
[21:18.000 --> 21:24.000]  because then you risk your property being taken away from you and then you'll have to get it back, okay?
[21:24.000 --> 21:28.000]  If, you know, continue to pay your property taxes, people.
[21:28.000 --> 21:30.000]  You know, I would.
[21:30.000 --> 21:35.000]  I'm going to, you know, unless I can get in a stopple or some kind of injunction or something like that.
[21:35.000 --> 21:37.000]  So, this is where people mess up.
[21:37.000 --> 21:42.000]  They think that just because they have the patent, well, now I don't have to pay anymore, and then they just don't pay.
[21:42.000 --> 21:45.000]  They don't complete the process, and then they get their land taken away.
[21:45.000 --> 21:47.000]  So, don't make those kinds of mistakes, you know?
[21:47.000 --> 21:54.000]  You have to get your property taken off of the tax roll legitimately if you really want to make this thing happen.
[21:54.000 --> 21:58.000]  So, I mean, what I intend to do is I'm going to go through this process,
[21:58.000 --> 22:08.000]  and I'm going to try to get an injunction before the end of the year if possible to prevent this huge tax bill that we have to pay by the end of January.
[22:08.000 --> 22:10.000]  So, yeah, like Pat says, good luck.
[22:10.000 --> 22:20.000]  I may still have to pay for the 2008 year, but, you know, I'm going to keep myself in a safe place, in other words, to not have my property taken away.
[22:20.000 --> 22:22.000]  But, you know, what do you got to lose?
[22:22.000 --> 22:29.000]  Go into court, pro se, file it, fight it, try to get what rightfully belongs to you.
[22:29.000 --> 22:31.000]  All right, so we're going to go to Gary.
[22:31.000 --> 22:33.000]  Okay, Gary, thanks for calling in.
[22:33.000 --> 22:34.000]  What's on your mind tonight?
[22:34.000 --> 22:35.000]  Thanks again.
[22:35.000 --> 22:41.000]  Hey, kudos to Steve Skidmore. I'm sure he's your screener tonight.
[22:41.000 --> 22:43.000]  He is awesome.
[22:43.000 --> 22:44.000]  Yes, he is.
[22:44.000 --> 22:45.000]  Good friend of ours.
[22:45.000 --> 22:46.000]  He really is.
[22:46.000 --> 22:47.000]  What a blessing the man is.
[22:47.000 --> 22:56.000]  Anyway, Pat, I wanted to ask you, you made a mention earlier this evening about school rights in Texas.
[22:56.000 --> 22:59.000]  I didn't touch on it.
[22:59.000 --> 23:02.000]  That must have been somebody else.
[23:02.000 --> 23:16.000]  Somebody said it, but I want to tell you that in an affidavit that I filed with an agency, the state of Texas refers to school rights,
[23:16.000 --> 23:23.000]  and those are fundamental basic rights, which are hardly defined in law.
[23:23.000 --> 23:33.000]  But in an affidavit that I filed, again, with this aquifer criminal authority here called the Equal Cavers Aquifer Authority,
[23:33.000 --> 23:47.000]  I stated that my lawful status as a flesh and blood person with God-given unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of property,
[23:47.000 --> 24:01.000]  including but not limited to holding the irrevocable school right to hold and enjoy the exercise absolute title to my property
[24:01.000 --> 24:05.000]  in all categories of property, including land.
[24:05.000 --> 24:18.000]  School rights are literally spelled out in the first Texas Constitution, and they are irrevocable rights,
[24:18.000 --> 24:30.000]  including the absolute right to hold absolute title to property, which includes land.
[24:30.000 --> 24:33.000]  Somebody spoke to that earlier this evening.
[24:33.000 --> 24:39.000]  This is a very fundamental thing that needs to be followed up.
[24:39.000 --> 24:49.000]  I would also mention to you, and my kudos to you, I would say that virtually everything you said tonight agrees with every filing that I've made
[24:49.000 --> 24:59.000]  and every understanding that I have with regards to holding absolute title to property, which includes land.
[24:59.000 --> 25:11.000]  What I would recommend that Brandon has access to this, I'm going to call Harmon Taylor.
[25:11.000 --> 25:24.000]  Harmon Taylor has made mention to the land patent, and he states that it has everything to do with your choice of law when you purchase property.
[25:24.000 --> 25:29.000]  Choice of law is a key element to this.
[25:29.000 --> 25:46.000]  Even though at the beginning when I was induced and defrauded by acquiescing to registering my sale or my purchase of property with the state,
[25:46.000 --> 25:54.000]  which somehow put me in business with the state, that really was not my choice of law.
[25:54.000 --> 26:02.000]  I defy that that was my choice, because I was never fully disclosed that that was what I was doing.
[26:02.000 --> 26:19.000]  I believe that one's choice of law includes the organic laws of the de jure state of Texas, the Republic, which is still in existence.
[26:19.000 --> 26:37.000]  The land patent is paramount, and the land patent is determined by the organic laws of the state of Texas, which is the original de jure Republic.
[26:37.000 --> 26:52.000]  What you said earlier, Pat, is so right on. A United States citizen, a statutory citizen, cannot hold absolute title to property.
[26:52.000 --> 26:58.000]  A statutory U.S. citizen cannot hold absolute title to property.
[26:58.000 --> 27:11.000]  And if he has been induced and defrauded into accepting U.S. citizenship, he has to, first of all, refute the privilege of suffrage.
[27:11.000 --> 27:24.000]  According to the Fourteenth Amendment, he has to absolutely refute that he is a statutory U.S. citizen and declare that he is a sentient man upon the land.
[27:24.000 --> 27:31.000]  Did you have to do that in order to get your property taken off the tax roll?
[27:31.000 --> 27:32.000]  Hold on a second.
[27:32.000 --> 27:33.000]  And I went in.
[27:33.000 --> 27:34.000]  Pat, I'm sorry.
[27:34.000 --> 27:36.000]  I had you muted because the dog was barking.
[27:36.000 --> 27:37.000]  I couldn't hear Gary.
[27:37.000 --> 27:41.000]  Did you have to do all that in order to get your property taken off the tax roll?
[27:41.000 --> 27:43.000]  No.
[27:43.000 --> 27:46.000]  What we did do, though, was go in.
[27:46.000 --> 27:49.000]  We did it as a separate action.
[27:49.000 --> 27:53.000]  It had nothing to do with the tax roll.
[27:53.000 --> 27:54.000]  You have land, Pat.
[27:54.000 --> 27:57.000]  You're no longer a voter.
[27:57.000 --> 27:58.000]  Right.
[27:58.000 --> 28:09.000]  And one of the things that I have repeatedly stated, as well as my wife, who were a little bit adamant about this, is that we are not U.S. citizens.
[28:09.000 --> 28:22.000]  We're both just American veterans, but we are citizens of the state of the Republic of Texas.
[28:22.000 --> 28:28.000]  That's your state, not the state of Texas.
[28:28.000 --> 28:35.000]  And if you go back and you look at when it was incorporated and everything, you'll understand the difference.
[28:35.000 --> 28:48.000]  I didn't touch on that except for just to state that when you get your land, Pat, and go in, refute your voter registration and become an elector.
[28:48.000 --> 28:51.000]  Why do you have to do that?
[28:51.000 --> 28:53.000]  Because you're no longer a voter.
[28:53.000 --> 28:58.000]  Well, I know, but why are you no longer a voter just because you get a land patent?
[28:58.000 --> 29:04.000]  Because at that point, you have to understand what a voter is.
[29:04.000 --> 29:10.000]  A voter is not a taxpayer or a landowner.
[29:10.000 --> 29:19.000]  Originally, there was only two classes of people that could cast the ballot, not vote, but cast the ballot.
[29:19.000 --> 29:23.000]  And one of them was a landowner.
[29:23.000 --> 29:27.000]  To own land, you had to have patents.
[29:27.000 --> 29:36.000]  The taxpayer was your business owner, and he paid an ad valorem tax on his business to the state.
[29:36.000 --> 29:38.000]  Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[29:38.000 --> 29:39.000]  We're going to break.
[29:39.000 --> 29:41.000]  Gary, did you have anything else for us?
[29:41.000 --> 29:42.000]  Yes, I do.
[29:42.000 --> 29:43.000]  Okay, okay.
[29:43.000 --> 29:44.000]  All right, stay on the line.
[29:44.000 --> 29:48.000]  All right, we'll be back with Pat after this short break.
[29:48.000 --> 29:49.000]  And I've got some questions too.
[29:49.000 --> 29:53.000]  I've got a list of questions from people Skyping me as well.
[29:53.000 --> 29:56.000]  We've got plenty to discuss here.
[29:56.000 --> 29:57.000]  We'll be right back.
[29:57.000 --> 30:00.000]  We'll be right back.
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[31:20.000 --> 31:35.000]  Okay.
[31:35.000 --> 31:44.000]  We are back with Pat, who's hanging out, hanging in there, up there on top of the tower in rural South Texas.
[31:44.000 --> 31:57.000]  Okay, Gary, we're going to go back to you in just one second, but I wanted to stop Pat here right in this segment of his explanation to explain here about this voting issue and residency.
[31:57.000 --> 31:59.000]  And Eddie has some stuff to chime in here.
[31:59.000 --> 32:00.000]  All right.
[32:00.000 --> 32:08.000]  You're saying that once you get a land patent, you lose, you can't have a voter registration card anymore.
[32:08.000 --> 32:24.000]  And I wanted you guys, both of y'all, to go into this because there's a lot of people in the state, most people I would say, who are not landowners or don't even have a color of title or a color of deed to their land who have not gone through this process.
[32:24.000 --> 32:26.000]  There's people who rent, all right.
[32:26.000 --> 32:39.000]  There's people who stay with friends or rent a room with friends and aren't even on a legitimate lease that has been signed, but they have a mailing address that is within the boundaries of the state of Texas.
[32:39.000 --> 32:51.000]  And once you have a mailing address within the state of Texas, a physical mailing address on a PO box for a certain length of time, I don't know what it is, maybe six months or so, you get something called residency.
[32:51.000 --> 32:56.000]  And then you can get a voter registration card.
[32:56.000 --> 33:07.000]  And so I want to, I want you guys to explain why if you are a true landowner with a land patent that you can't have a voter registration card anymore.
[33:07.000 --> 33:12.000]  Can you guys please explain this in the terms of resident and all that kind of thing?
[33:12.000 --> 33:14.000]  Eddie, you want to go for this one?
[33:14.000 --> 33:21.000]  Well, like I said, the term residence works just like it does under the traffic laws.
[33:21.000 --> 33:26.000]  A resident is someone that is transient, temporary, in other words, not permanent.
[33:26.000 --> 33:29.000]  That's the same thing as a residence.
[33:29.000 --> 33:30.000]  It is temporary.
[33:30.000 --> 33:31.000]  It is not permanent.
[33:31.000 --> 33:36.000]  That's the difference between a residence and a domicile.
[33:36.000 --> 33:44.000]  Yeah, when you own land, absolutely own it, you have true title to it.
[33:44.000 --> 33:46.000]  That's your domicile.
[33:46.000 --> 33:48.000]  Domicile is permanent.
[33:48.000 --> 33:57.000]  If you fill out any of your voter registration cards and stuff, it's going to ask you for your residence address.
[33:57.000 --> 33:59.000]  I don't have one.
[33:59.000 --> 34:06.000]  And I've already told everybody out here I started a kind of a small wave of sorts.
[34:06.000 --> 34:12.000]  I guess I'm just a wave of things to go back to the way it used to be.
[34:12.000 --> 34:16.000]  But we are domiciles.
[34:16.000 --> 34:22.000]  My wife and I and all our animals and everything else that we have, we are domiciles.
[34:22.000 --> 34:32.000]  And I've been asked repeatedly by our county folks to please get a voter registration card and all that.
[34:32.000 --> 34:39.000]  And I said no, because I'm not a transient.
[34:39.000 --> 34:42.000]  And I got looked at rather strangely.
[34:42.000 --> 34:51.000]  And I had to explain it to the voter registration person who's a member of the sheriff's department here.
[34:51.000 --> 35:01.000]  And once I explained it, that I was not temporarily living here, I was permanent, I was going to stay here, I wasn't going anywhere,
[35:01.000 --> 35:03.000]  then she understood.
[35:03.000 --> 35:09.000]  She didn't know the difference between an elector and a voter.
[35:09.000 --> 35:18.000]  Now, an elector is someone who is permanently domiciled in the county.
[35:18.000 --> 35:22.000]  And a resident is somebody who's transient.
[35:22.000 --> 35:33.000]  As you just explained, there is somebody who may or may not have a lease, may or may not own or have a deed or something.
[35:33.000 --> 35:34.000]  They have an address.
[35:34.000 --> 35:36.000]  They have a post office box.
[35:36.000 --> 35:38.000]  Okay.
[35:38.000 --> 35:40.000]  I have a piece of property.
[35:40.000 --> 35:47.000]  And my address on that is actually lined out by the survey.
[35:47.000 --> 35:54.000]  It gives you a block and section number of a survey of a plat and is lined out that way.
[35:54.000 --> 35:57.000]  That's the true address of that piece of property.
[35:57.000 --> 36:00.000]  I don't have a street address.
[36:00.000 --> 36:08.000]  I have a mailing address, which is a post office box, and that's different.
[36:08.000 --> 36:15.000]  Okay, let me ask you a couple questions here before we go back to Gary, still trying to get on this voter thing.
[36:15.000 --> 36:22.000]  Somebody could own multiple pieces of land, multiple properties around the state of Texas or even inside the county
[36:22.000 --> 36:28.000]  or even inside their neighborhood, but they're not necessarily domiciled on all of them, only one of them.
[36:28.000 --> 36:30.000]  So that's one issue there.
[36:30.000 --> 36:34.000]  So just because you have a land patent or you brought forward your land patent on the property you own,
[36:34.000 --> 36:39.000]  that doesn't necessarily mean that's your domicile because you could be domiciled somewhere else.
[36:39.000 --> 36:47.000]  And the other thing I wanted to bring up is, well, if someone like me wanted to still maintain a voter registration card,
[36:47.000 --> 36:53.000]  what's to stop me from renting a room at my friend's house down the street?
[36:53.000 --> 37:04.000]  And that is my residence, even though I legally own or would have a true property ownership of this property.
[37:04.000 --> 37:07.000]  I could rent a room somewhere, and that's my residence.
[37:07.000 --> 37:13.000]  Because say it's across town or something and I have to drive back and forth from here to Pflugerville all the time
[37:13.000 --> 37:16.000]  and, you know, maybe some nights I just don't want to go home.
[37:16.000 --> 37:17.000]  I mean, it's nobody's business.
[37:17.000 --> 37:23.000]  I mean, if I rent something somewhere else, use another mailing address, then that could be my residence
[37:23.000 --> 37:25.000]  and I could still have a voter registration card.
[37:25.000 --> 37:26.000]  Is that correct?
[37:26.000 --> 37:27.000]  That's correct.
[37:27.000 --> 37:28.000]  I'll give you an example.
[37:28.000 --> 37:33.000]  We have a county commissioner here in this county who's domiciled in Pecos County.
[37:33.000 --> 37:35.000]  I don't live in Pecos County.
[37:35.000 --> 37:37.000]  Our county is Terrell.
[37:37.000 --> 37:40.000]  He has a resident in Terrell County.
[37:40.000 --> 37:48.000]  He is a county commissioner in Terrell County because he registered as a voter in Terrell County.
[37:48.000 --> 37:52.000]  Now he's an elector in Pecos County.
[37:52.000 --> 37:59.000]  So what you're saying and what you're suggesting is correct and can function if you want it to.
[37:59.000 --> 38:02.000]  You can play the game both ways.
[38:02.000 --> 38:05.000]  Is it morally correct?
[38:05.000 --> 38:10.000]  I'm going to leave that one open to the individuals.
[38:10.000 --> 38:19.000]  In my opinion, no, because you're being dishonest with yourself as to where you're actually conducting your business.
[38:19.000 --> 38:29.000]  There are certain sets of laws that I feel morally bound to, and I think Gary has already touched on this,
[38:29.000 --> 38:38.000]  and I have a feeling that he's of the same opinion, but I'm not going to be legal at this point.
[38:38.000 --> 38:39.000]  Sure.
[38:39.000 --> 38:40.000]  You're correct.
[38:40.000 --> 38:52.000]  You can do what you're saying, and you would be within the boundaries of the corporate legal system that we have.
[38:52.000 --> 39:02.000]  Well, perhaps a more moral approach would be to file a lawsuit for disenfranchisement because now if I become a landowner, then I can't vote.
[39:02.000 --> 39:03.000]  That's disenfranchisement.
[39:03.000 --> 39:04.000]  No, no, no.
[39:04.000 --> 39:07.000]  You can't vote, but you do cast a ballot.
[39:07.000 --> 39:08.000]  Okay, okay.
[39:08.000 --> 39:17.000]  There's a difference, and there's a major difference in how it's counted and how it's handled.
[39:17.000 --> 39:27.000]  Electors, when they cast their ballot, all of it is by paper ballot.
[39:27.000 --> 39:31.000]  You do not use an electronic voting machine.
[39:31.000 --> 39:33.000]  Got my attention.
[39:33.000 --> 39:35.000]  Do you understand the difference here?
[39:35.000 --> 39:38.000]  Yeah, the voting machine issue is real big on my list.
[39:38.000 --> 39:39.000]  I know.
[39:39.000 --> 39:44.000]  One's a voting machine, Deborah, that's an electronic voting machine.
[39:44.000 --> 39:46.000]  Oh, believe me, I know.
[39:46.000 --> 39:48.000]  The other is a paper ballot.
[39:48.000 --> 39:50.000]  Oh, believe me, I know, I know.
[39:50.000 --> 39:51.000]  No, no, no.
[39:51.000 --> 39:54.000]  As an elector, you do not vote.
[39:54.000 --> 39:56.000]  You cast a ballot.
[39:56.000 --> 39:59.000]  Yeah, that's wonderful.
[39:59.000 --> 40:15.000]  You have to understand the difference in legalese here a little bit and understand the language because the language follows suit to form and function and action.
[40:15.000 --> 40:24.000]  And this is what Randy and Eddie have been talking about for so long, and I know you've been beating the drum on this as well.
[40:24.000 --> 40:32.000]  Be careful what you say because we have been schooled to speak in a very particular way.
[40:32.000 --> 40:42.000]  It's like in using the transportation code, where are you driving to, sir?
[40:42.000 --> 40:45.000]  Excuse me, I'm not driving.
[40:45.000 --> 40:54.000]  I am motoring or I am traveling, but I'm not driving.
[40:54.000 --> 40:56.000]  Do you understand the difference?
[40:56.000 --> 40:57.000]  Oh, yeah, of course.
[40:57.000 --> 40:59.000]  We just did a seminar on that.
[40:59.000 --> 41:00.000]  All right.
[41:00.000 --> 41:06.000]  Then it's the same thing with voting and casting a ballot.
[41:06.000 --> 41:19.000]  A voter who is a transient, who is basically a non-property owner, non-business owner, could never cast a ballot as an elector.
[41:19.000 --> 41:31.000]  They don't meet the criteria, but they meet the criteria as a voter and can vote.
[41:31.000 --> 41:36.000]  I know this is getting to be a fine point, and I'm trying to beat this dead horse.
[41:36.000 --> 41:40.000]  No, this is very important.
[41:40.000 --> 41:56.000]  We have to change the way we think about words because words are not only our friends, but they're our enemy, and they will be used against you.
[41:56.000 --> 42:07.000]  If you understand what they're saying to you and what is printed on that piece of paper they want you to sign,
[42:07.000 --> 42:18.000]  then you can scratch through what you disagree with and honestly sign it after you scratch through the inappropriate material.
[42:18.000 --> 42:25.000]  Or you can say, I cannot sign that, and be totally, morally correct.
[42:25.000 --> 42:30.000]  But you have to understand the basis for doing it.
[42:30.000 --> 42:33.000]  Where does the information come from?
[42:33.000 --> 42:35.000]  Where does your strength come from?
[42:35.000 --> 42:40.000]  Where does the law come from?
[42:40.000 --> 42:52.000]  The material you sent me by email yesterday, the attached research paper on one of the documents had it best.
[42:52.000 --> 42:58.000]  All of the common law basically comes from God's law.
[42:58.000 --> 43:05.000]  Now, I'm not going to go into a religious dissertation here, so please bear with me for a second.
[43:05.000 --> 43:13.000]  That is the basis for all moral and moral law in this country.
[43:13.000 --> 43:21.000]  Yes, and it's also the basis for the Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence that goes back since before the Magna Carta.
[43:21.000 --> 43:23.000]  It's not just the Anglo-Saxon.
[43:23.000 --> 43:31.000]  It's actually the basis for a lot of other laws around the world, you'd be surprised.
[43:31.000 --> 43:35.000]  They may not call it the same, but it boils down to the same thing.
[43:35.000 --> 43:37.000]  Okay, well listen, we're going to another break.
[43:37.000 --> 43:40.000]  Gary from Texas, I'm sorry we took up the whole segment.
[43:40.000 --> 43:46.000]  We were going to go right back to you, but I wanted to clarify this voter and ballot casting issue.
[43:46.000 --> 43:49.000]  We'll go back to Gary when we get back on the other side.
[43:49.000 --> 43:54.000]  And I have another list of questions from people who have been Skyping me.
[43:54.000 --> 43:55.000]  All right, we'll be right back.
[43:55.000 --> 43:56.000]  I'm still here.
[43:56.000 --> 44:00.000]  All right, we'll be right back.
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[45:23.000 --> 45:30.000]  Always, we must be careful what we're wishing for.
[45:30.000 --> 45:32.000]  Pat, you were just saying that.
[45:32.000 --> 45:34.000]  Be careful what you're saying.
[45:34.000 --> 45:37.000]  Okay, so we are going to go right back to Gary from Texas.
[45:37.000 --> 45:40.000]  Okay, Gary, you had a couple of other questions or comments?
[45:40.000 --> 45:41.000]  Yes, I did actually.
[45:41.000 --> 45:42.000]  Okay, go ahead.
[45:42.000 --> 45:52.000]  First of all, Pat, would you give Randy and Debbie permission to give me your phone number so I can contact you?
[45:52.000 --> 45:54.000]  Yes, sir, I will.
[45:54.000 --> 46:02.000]  The best way to do it is through my email, but I'll give them some contact information and please feel free to contact me.
[46:02.000 --> 46:07.000]  They have trouble getting cell phone reception during the day.
[46:07.000 --> 46:08.000]  Understood.
[46:08.000 --> 46:14.000]  Well, I'll give you a full contact information, Deborah, so he can get ahold of me.
[46:14.000 --> 46:15.000]  Okay, wonderful.
[46:15.000 --> 46:16.000]  All right, great.
[46:16.000 --> 46:23.000]  First of all, let's get to this, the use of the word owner.
[46:23.000 --> 46:34.000]  Okay, when you are a land owner, let's go back to words of art known only by sages of the law.
[46:34.000 --> 46:50.000]  The word owner is from the Latin word riot, R-Y-O-T, tenure, T-E-N-O-R, which means tenant, T-E-N-A-N-T in today's language.
[46:50.000 --> 46:58.000]  An owner today is a tenant having no more rights to a renter.
[46:58.000 --> 47:05.000]  So when you say you are a land owner, you are nothing more than a tenant and you pay
[47:05.000 --> 47:16.000]  tenants to the state for the privilege, quote, of sharing an equitable title to any type of property.
[47:16.000 --> 47:18.000]  Back to the land patent.
[47:18.000 --> 47:30.000]  The land patent makes you an absolute holder of absolute title, not an owner, but a holder of absolute title, different terms.
[47:30.000 --> 47:31.000]  Freeholder.
[47:31.000 --> 47:33.000]  Different names.
[47:33.000 --> 47:36.000]  Yeah, so the true term is freeholder.
[47:36.000 --> 47:37.000]  Yeah.
[47:37.000 --> 47:39.000]  Freeholder, simple fee.
[47:39.000 --> 47:49.000]  I agree with you big time on this. You must absolutely relinquish the privilege of suffrage,
[47:49.000 --> 47:52.000]  which is the book of registration.
[47:52.000 --> 48:01.000]  You absolutely must relinquish that because whenever you sign up for privilege suffrage,
[48:01.000 --> 48:10.000]  you have relinquished all of your rights as an elector, which you obtain as a holder of an absolute title.
[48:10.000 --> 48:11.000]  Well, now, wait a minute, Gary.
[48:11.000 --> 48:17.000]  It sounds to me like you don't have to relinquish any privilege because you become an elector and you get to cast a ballot.
[48:17.000 --> 48:19.000]  So that sounds even better to me.
[48:19.000 --> 48:22.000]  Well, yeah, but wait a minute.
[48:22.000 --> 48:32.000]  You cannot sign a voter registration court. You have to absolutely obliterate voter registration.
[48:32.000 --> 48:36.000]  Here's what the vote is.
[48:36.000 --> 48:39.000]  Here's the definition of a vote.
[48:39.000 --> 48:48.000]  A vote only counts as long as it agrees with the opinion of the state.
[48:48.000 --> 48:52.000]  Sorry, but that's the fact.
[48:52.000 --> 48:56.000]  So as an elector, it is completely different.
[48:56.000 --> 49:00.000]  Electors are not opinion makers.
[49:00.000 --> 49:03.000]  Electors have authority.
[49:03.000 --> 49:06.000]  Voters can only register their opinion.
[49:06.000 --> 49:10.000]  A vote only counts as long as it agrees with the opinion of the state.
[49:10.000 --> 49:13.000]  Well, it doesn't count at all anymore because of the voting machines.
[49:13.000 --> 49:18.000]  Well, listen to what I'm saying, please.
[49:18.000 --> 49:22.000]  So there are very good points that Pat is electing.
[49:22.000 --> 49:39.000]  Again, I have to go back to Randy's friend, Harmon Taylor, who says that it totally depends on the application of law that you wish to apply for when you purchase property.
[49:39.000 --> 49:51.000]  You're either going to be a riot tenure and hold no more than equitable title, or you're going to have absolute title, land patent.
[49:51.000 --> 49:53.000]  There's only two choices.
[49:53.000 --> 50:05.000]  Yes, which actually brings up another question, Pat, if you would please address this concerning a loyal title, a loyal title or a loydeal title, however something like that.
[50:05.000 --> 50:08.000]  A loydeal title and land patent are the same.
[50:08.000 --> 50:10.000]  They are the same thing.
[50:10.000 --> 50:11.000]  They are the same thing.
[50:11.000 --> 50:13.000]  It's just two terms for the same thing.
[50:13.000 --> 50:18.000]  You're a freeholder, and Gary's correct there.
[50:18.000 --> 50:26.000]  I was remiss in using a colloquialism in landowner.
[50:26.000 --> 50:35.000]  I've gotten used to trying to express certain things to some of our public servants in terms that they understand.
[50:35.000 --> 50:41.000]  Unfortunately, Gary and I do apologize.
[50:41.000 --> 50:47.000]  It tends to affect my speech sometimes in terms that I use.
[50:47.000 --> 50:53.000]  Well, I don't think an apology is necessary, Pat, because really we're all learning this.
[50:53.000 --> 50:56.000]  Gary's totally correct there.
[50:56.000 --> 51:13.000]  The words that you use affect the meaning that you're trying to get across, and absolutely what is going on with the situation at hand.
[51:13.000 --> 51:30.000]  The loydeal title or land patent, not if, but when people bring them forward, in other words, they accept the assignment of the land patent, they become freeholders.
[51:30.000 --> 51:35.000]  That's a free man and a free woman.
[51:35.000 --> 51:38.000]  They're not bound to the state.
[51:38.000 --> 51:43.000]  The state is bound to them.
[51:43.000 --> 51:46.000]  That's why it's called sovereign land.
[51:46.000 --> 52:02.000]  Even by the current GLO, their own website calls it sovereign land and is a sovereign transfer of property by their own admission.
[52:02.000 --> 52:06.000]  These are their terms, not mine, on their website.
[52:06.000 --> 52:09.000]  Please go to their website and look it up.
[52:09.000 --> 52:21.000]  I know that this is going out all over the United States, but it is true in every state of the Union, including the states that are not states.
[52:21.000 --> 52:34.000]  That's another whole discussion and will probably lead us into another show at another time on another day.
[52:34.000 --> 52:37.000]  Okay, Gary.
[52:37.000 --> 52:39.000]  Gary, do you have anything else for us?
[52:39.000 --> 52:43.000]  Because we've got some callers stacking up and I have other questions from the chat.
[52:43.000 --> 52:45.000]  I've got hours more.
[52:45.000 --> 52:46.000]  Okay.
[52:46.000 --> 52:48.000]  That's probably all we can fill tonight.
[52:48.000 --> 52:50.000]  Okay.
[52:50.000 --> 52:52.000]  I look forward to speaking to Pat privately.
[52:52.000 --> 52:57.000]  Thank you, Pat, for giving them permission to give you your information.
[52:57.000 --> 52:59.000]  It's not a problem, sir.
[52:59.000 --> 53:03.000]  I have a lot to share with you, sir, and you're right on the mark.
[53:03.000 --> 53:05.000]  Thank you, you too.
[53:05.000 --> 53:07.000]  I will talk to you tomorrow then, sir.
[53:07.000 --> 53:08.000]  Okay, sir.
[53:08.000 --> 53:09.000]  All right, thank you so much, Gary.
[53:09.000 --> 53:13.000]  Gary's one of our big supporters of the network, a good friend of ours.
[53:13.000 --> 53:16.000]  We appreciate him calling in.
[53:16.000 --> 53:22.000]  And yeah, I understand the necessity of using the proper words and everything.
[53:22.000 --> 53:27.000]  You know, we are all learning this and sometimes it's just my opinion.
[53:27.000 --> 53:33.000]  I think it's okay to use the common use terminology for, you know,
[53:33.000 --> 53:35.000]  people who are just learning this so they can understand
[53:35.000 --> 53:41.000]  and then clarify the specific legal definitions of specific words maybe later at some point,
[53:41.000 --> 53:43.000]  just when you're giving an overview of all of this.
[53:43.000 --> 53:48.000]  Otherwise, you end up spending a whole day just defining terminology.
[53:48.000 --> 53:51.000]  I mean, that's why Eddie and Randy and I did the seminar.
[53:51.000 --> 53:54.000]  I mean, Eddie spent the whole day, you know,
[53:54.000 --> 53:57.000]  half of the first day going over definitions of words.
[53:57.000 --> 54:00.000]  And when you're first laying out an overview for people,
[54:00.000 --> 54:03.000]  sometimes it can get kind of bogged down.
[54:03.000 --> 54:07.000]  But yeah, we do need to pay attention to the specific words.
[54:07.000 --> 54:11.000]  Okay, I have some questions from the Skype chats.
[54:11.000 --> 54:16.000]  Okay, one question is assuming, okay, someone goes through this process
[54:16.000 --> 54:21.000]  of bringing their land patent forward, becoming a freeholder, all these things,
[54:21.000 --> 54:26.000]  doing whatever needs to be done to get their property off the tax roll,
[54:26.000 --> 54:28.000]  whether they have to go through court or not,
[54:28.000 --> 54:36.000]  does the property stay off the tax roll when it's sold, if a person chooses to sell?
[54:36.000 --> 54:42.000]  And if so, can that make the property more valuable in a sale?
[54:42.000 --> 54:45.000]  Could that be used in a selling point, as a selling point?
[54:45.000 --> 54:51.000]  It'll stay off the tax rolls as long as you don't re-register it with the tax office,
[54:51.000 --> 54:56.000]  or the new buyer doesn't register it with the tax office.
[54:56.000 --> 55:02.000]  Understand that most mortgage companies and banks will not loan money
[55:02.000 --> 55:05.000]  on a patented piece of property.
[55:05.000 --> 55:10.000]  They will require the patent be released and the deed be reissued.
[55:10.000 --> 55:12.000]  Okay, then that brings up another question.
[55:12.000 --> 55:14.000]  What if you currently have a mortgage on your property?
[55:14.000 --> 55:19.000]  Can you get, bring your patent forward, or do you have to pay off the mortgage first?
[55:19.000 --> 55:22.000]  No, you can bring the patent forward.
[55:22.000 --> 55:27.000]  The patent does not affect your contract to pay that mortgage.
[55:27.000 --> 55:30.000]  You just may not be able to get it refinanced.
[55:30.000 --> 55:34.000]  You may, you probably will not ever get it refinanced.
[55:34.000 --> 55:35.000]  Okay.
[55:35.000 --> 55:37.000]  And there's an old act...
[55:37.000 --> 55:39.000]  You'll never lose it either.
[55:39.000 --> 55:40.000]  Paul, you'll never lose the property.
[55:40.000 --> 55:41.000]  It is yours.
[55:41.000 --> 55:42.000]  They cannot take it.
[55:42.000 --> 55:47.000]  They can sue you, but they cannot take the property.
[55:47.000 --> 55:49.000]  They could not foreclose on it and take it?
[55:49.000 --> 55:52.000]  No, how can you foreclose on something that's absolute?
[55:52.000 --> 55:53.000]  Wow.
[55:53.000 --> 55:57.000]  Not only is it absolute, it is outside their jurisdiction.
[55:57.000 --> 56:04.000]  You have to understand jurisdiction, and this is what I was belaboring before
[56:04.000 --> 56:09.000]  in my trials and tribulations with the federal boys down here
[56:09.000 --> 56:19.000]  when they kept wanting to come on and showed me the operative end of a Glock Model 17.
[56:19.000 --> 56:25.000]  They don't have jurisdiction, and they knew they didn't have jurisdiction.
[56:25.000 --> 56:30.000]  And right now, there is not a person in this county or in this state
[56:30.000 --> 56:38.000]  that has jurisdiction on this piece of property besides my wife and I.
[56:38.000 --> 56:40.000]  And everybody knows it.
[56:40.000 --> 56:47.000]  Now, I know that most people have never heard of the Browns.
[56:47.000 --> 56:50.000]  They're an elderly couple that were fighting...
[56:50.000 --> 56:51.000]  The IRS.
[56:51.000 --> 56:52.000]  Oh, yeah.
[56:52.000 --> 56:53.000]  Edna Lane Brown.
[56:53.000 --> 56:54.000]  Oh, yeah.
[56:54.000 --> 56:58.000]  Do you know why the federal boys had to sneak onto their property
[56:58.000 --> 57:03.000]  and be invited in as disguised guests?
[57:03.000 --> 57:07.000]  Because they own a loyal title.
[57:07.000 --> 57:12.000]  They have true titles to their property.
[57:12.000 --> 57:23.000]  No jurisdiction, no warrant could be served because it's outside of jurisdiction.
[57:23.000 --> 57:28.000]  And how the federal agents got in there is they posed as somebody else.
[57:28.000 --> 57:36.000]  They were seated in, and then they did their little dance all over the two of them,
[57:36.000 --> 57:43.000]  which unfortunately is a whole other discussion
[57:43.000 --> 57:51.000]  and will probably get me in a lot of hot water and a lot of other places.
[57:51.000 --> 57:56.000]  Well, yeah, they kind of just blew off the court procedures altogether.
[57:56.000 --> 57:58.000]  Randy and I had discussed this before.
[57:58.000 --> 58:04.000]  They just decided they were not going to respond anymore to the court case
[58:04.000 --> 58:07.000]  or the summons or subpoenas.
[58:07.000 --> 58:12.000]  They just decided they were not going to file anything else in their court case at all.
[58:12.000 --> 58:17.000]  And Randy, in my opinion, that was their biggest mistake right there,
[58:17.000 --> 58:23.000]  that they should not have just ignored the court system altogether.
[58:23.000 --> 58:25.000]  I agree with you wholeheartedly on that
[58:25.000 --> 58:28.000]  because you have to know your enemies better than you know yourself.
[58:28.000 --> 58:33.000]  I mean, if they were going to go to all the trouble to set up a freeholdership for themselves,
[58:33.000 --> 58:35.000]  they should have carried it through all the way.
[58:35.000 --> 58:38.000]  I mean, that's kind of why what happened to them ended up happening.
[58:38.000 --> 58:40.000]  All right, listen, we're going to top of our break.
[58:40.000 --> 58:44.000]  We've got Dan from Connecticut, and I have a couple other questions from some Skype chats.
[58:44.000 --> 58:47.000]  And then we'll go to Dan. We've got one more hour.
[58:47.000 --> 58:50.000]  Pat, are you up for hanging in there, hanging up there?
[58:50.000 --> 58:53.000]  I'm still hanging here. I've got no place to go.
[58:53.000 --> 58:55.000]  The dogs have already chased the deer away.
[58:55.000 --> 58:57.000]  Okay, hopefully your arm isn't numb.
[58:57.000 --> 58:59.000]  All right, we'll be right back.
[58:59.000 --> 59:04.000]  Let's go.
[59:29.000 --> 59:34.000]  Let's go.
[01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.000]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:11.000]  The Pentagon's Office of Inspector General is investigating a covert Bush administration program
[01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:17.000]  that used retired military analysts to produce positive wartime news coverage.
[01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.000]  In a speech broadcast over the past two days on the radio,
[01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:26.000]  Taliban Pakistan chief Hakeemullah Masood has cautioned against fleeing from the battlefield.
[01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:32.000]  Hakeemullah said deserters were cowards who will go to hell, and that is a very bad place.
[01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.000]  The Afghan police officer who shot dead five British soldiers in Helmand Tuesday
[01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:41.000]  approached the Taliban two months ago to offer his services
[01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:45.000]  and sought refuge with the insurgents after carrying out the killings.
[01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:54.000]  Taliban militants welcomed the renegade officer with flowers after he escaped British and Afghan troops.
[01:00:54.000 --> 01:01:00.000]  Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko all but declared martial law in the country Thursday.
[01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:05.000]  The National Security and Defense Council, a government body consisting of the president
[01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.000]  and other high-ranking ministers, will become the supreme ruling authority
[01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:13.000]  in the wake of a mystery epidemic sweeping the country.
[01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:18.000]  Ukrainian health minister Vasilych Nesevich has asked the country's top prosecutor
[01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:24.000]  to open criminal proceedings against those who are opposed to implementing the mass flu vaccination.
[01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:29.000]  Reports suggest the epidemic in Ukraine is being caused by an unidentified virus,
[01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:33.000]  with some indicating the virus constitutes a pneumonic plague.
[01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:41.000]  The Ukrainian news agency Fraza has reported it has been confirmed there is a 100% pneumonic plague in Ukraine,
[01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:49.000]  and that in order to quell panic, only talk of swine flu has been sanctioned by the authorities.
[01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:57.000]  Carbon traders have refuted claims that the European emissions trading market is the next sub-prime crisis
[01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:01.000]  after a report by Friends of the Earth called for the system to be abolished.
[01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:07.000]  The environmental charity said the current system of trading permits fails to tackle climate change
[01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:12.000]  and is also financially dangerous. Currently, only Europe has an emissions trading scheme
[01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:19.000]  where companies can buy and sell permits, giving them the right to pollute the atmosphere with carbon dioxide.
[01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:25.000]  Sarah Jane Clifton, author of the report, said the growth of a secondary market in carbon trading
[01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.000]  involving financial speculators and complex financial products
[01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:35.000]  carries a risk that carbon trading will develop into a speculative commodity bubble.
[01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:40.000]  This could provide a global financial failure similar in scale and nature
[01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.000]  to that brought about by the sub-prime mortgage crisis.
[01:02:43.000 --> 01:03:11.000]  But Patrick Burley, chief executive of the European Climate Exchange, said the system is highly regulated and transparent.
[01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  All right.
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:47.000]  All right. We will occupy our father's house until he returns.
[01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:53.000]  Talking about our good Lord Jesus Christ and his house, of course, is the Earth.
[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  And we are the stewards of his house, good stewards. We would like to be considered good stewards.
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:05.000]  Okay, so a couple of questions from the Skype chats, and then we're going to go to Dan in Connecticut.
[01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  All right.
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:11.000]  I'd like to make just one comment on the Rick Perry thing he was talking about when we were on break.
[01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  And you know, the nicest thing I got to say about Rick Perry is I'd love to give him a lead line scuba suit and take him diving.
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.000]  The sharks would probably deliver him to the shore.
[01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.000]  Well, now remember, Rick Perry is a Bilderberg boy.
[01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:35.000]  I mean, we still need to take him down in federal court filing charges for him violating the Logan Act.
[01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:40.000]  You're assuming he's even that honest.
[01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.000]  What do you mean?
[01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:45.000]  If he's as honest as a Bilderberg, I think he's more crooked than that.
[01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.000]  Oh, yeah, probably so. That's why they love him so much.
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:53.000]  Well, he's a Bush wannabe, and I'm going to leave that one alone,
[01:04:53.000 --> 01:05:02.000]  other than to just say that I've got something for him that I would love to deliver personally.
[01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  The problem with him being a Bush wannabe is he's too intelligent.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  He needs to watch more TV.
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.000]  All right. All right.
[01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.000]  There's a decimal point in front of that IQ.
[01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:16.000]  Well, that's why we all need to support Deborah Medina for governor.
[01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:22.000]  And Richard Reeves is going to be talking about that quite a bit this coming Wednesday.
[01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:26.000]  Richard Reeves has been studying partisan politics and the primaries
[01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  and how things go as far as the percentages and pollings and pre-pollings of, you know,
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.000]  these telephone surveys and all these kinds of things.
[01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:37.000]  And according to his statistical analysis,
[01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:42.000]  Deborah Medina actually does have a legitimate chance of becoming governor.
[01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:45.000]  She's got 7 percent in the polls already.
[01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:54.000]  And so we just need to get the word out to support Deborah Medina for governor here in Texas the next go-round.
[01:05:54.000 --> 01:06:03.000]  Okay. So the next round of questions I have here from people on the Skype chats are concerning IRS liens.
[01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  And I would expand that to liens coming down from any governmental entity, agency,
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:17.000]  alphabets, FCC, IRS, you name it, whether federal, state, local, county,
[01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:24.000]  can the feds, IRS, et cetera, put liens on a property that has,
[01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  where someone has a low-deal title or the patent that has been brought forward?
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:35.000]  The answer to that one comes from the federal government itself.
[01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:42.000]  Once they issue the patent, you have an absolute title.
[01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:46.000]  It is outside of their jurisdiction.
[01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:56.000]  Anything outside their jurisdiction, they do not have any basis in law to try and take it.
[01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:04.000]  Now, having said that, the IRS does whatever the IRS feels like doing.
[01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:12.000]  And if anybody's ever had any dealings with federales, and I'm sure a number of us have,
[01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:17.000]  they'll find real fast that they make law up as they go along,
[01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:28.000]  and they totally disregard any oath of office or anything that they may have said the day before.
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:31.000]  And it's not because they've slept in between.
[01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.000]  It's just they can't remember what they've said.
[01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:39.000]  All right. Well, then let me ask this, and I totally agree with you.
[01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  So would there be, is it possible to engage in some kind of preemptive filings
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:55.000]  to prevent the liens from being placed in the first place, illegal liens, I would add, from what you just told me?
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:59.000]  In other words, like if you get your land patent brought forward, all these kinds of things,
[01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:06.000]  you get your alloyal title, can you file certain documents either with the appraisal district
[01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:12.000]  or if you have your property taken off the appraisal, the tax roll,
[01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:19.000]  can you file documents with the county clerk or the district clerk of the court or the appraisal district,
[01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:29.000]  basically to put something in place to prevent the IRS or anyone else from putting a lien on your property at all?
[01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  And that way, even if they try to, they wouldn't be able to.
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  You cannot file a lien on an alloyal or land patent title.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.000]  It's an impossibility.
[01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.000]  Okay. So then the IRS wouldn't even be able to, even if they tried?
[01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:49.000]  Well, they will try.
[01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.000]  They'll tell you they can, but they can't.
[01:08:51.000 --> 01:09:00.000]  Yeah. They're going to go into federal court or into state court and file a lien with the county clerk's office,
[01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  but most of the time the liens that they file are not true liens.
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:15.000]  If you have an IRS lien being filed against your property, I would go in and I would get a copy of what has been filed.
[01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:21.000]  Nine times out of ten is an intent to file a lien.
[01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.000]  Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
[01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:31.000]  If the IRS goes to the county clerk to file a lien or an intent to file a lien or notice of lien or whatever,
[01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:38.000]  if you have some documents already in place with the county clerk, then the county clerk could just say,
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  no, you can't file a lien on this property.
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.000]  No. You have to understand something about the county clerk.
[01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  The county clerk is going to do whatever the IRS tells him to do.
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:54.000]  But having said that, you have to understand what a land patent truly is.
[01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:57.000]  It is absolute title.
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  There is nothing that can touch it that's been adjudicated even in federal court.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:13.000]  In the federal appellate court and taken all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, they don't even adjudicate that anymore.
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  If you have land patents, if you have a loyal title, that is yours.
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.000]  You're a freeholder.
[01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.000]  You cannot put a lien on it.
[01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:29.000]  A lien can go against you, the person.
[01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  They can file that in court, but they're asking for a judicial hearing to be filed at that point
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:48.000]  because to get a lien and to get a judgment are two different things.
[01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:54.000]  So then what would someone do if they had their patent, they had their a loyal title,
[01:10:54.000 --> 01:11:02.000]  and the IRS came down and filed a lien, let's just say a lien, not even a notice of lien or a threat of a lien,
[01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  and filed a lien with the county clerk and the county clerk's shaking and saying, okay, okay, and accepts the filing of the lien, then what?
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.000]  What does the freeholder do?
[01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  What does the lien say?
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:20.000]  Is the lien trying to lien the properties?
[01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  Yes.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.000]  You don't have a deed.
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  Yeah, there is no deed.
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.000]  But now also be aware of something else.
[01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:35.000]  The IRS, when they file that notice of lien, they remove subsection A from the back of the lien notice,
[01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:42.000]  which very specifically states the lien can only be applied against a federal employee or officer.
[01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:49.000]  It cannot be applied against a member of the general public.
[01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  That answers the whole question.
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:52.000]  Right.
[01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.000]  I'm just asking what would be the procedure that someone would go through at that point?
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:56.000]  How would they fight it?
[01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.000]  Texas has a law to protect against that.
[01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  It is the same law they tried to use against the Republic of Texas folks,
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:07.000]  and it's exactly the reason they passed it, against the liens the Republic of Texas folks
[01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.000]  replacing against public officials.
[01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:13.000]  It's called simulating a legal process.
[01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:20.000]  So what I'm asking is what would the human being who has the legal title do at that point?
[01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:23.000]  Would they have to file a lawsuit in federal court or in state court?
[01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:24.000]  No.
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:25.000]  What would they do?
[01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:31.000]  All they have to do in Texas is they get the copy of the notice of lien from the clerk.
[01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:36.000]  They take the statute with a written document according to the Texas laws.
[01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.000]  They take it to a judge of any district court.
[01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:45.000]  They have the judge hold a hearing, and nobody has to be present but you and the judge.
[01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:46.000]  That's in the law.
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:53.000]  And you show the judge the record, and if he cannot show that there is a judicial determination
[01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  that established the lien, the judge must order the lien released and revoked.
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000]  Okay, that's what I wanted to know.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000]  Yeah, now that's in Texas.
[01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  I don't know what the law is in Connecticut, but they're bound to have something similar to that.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:18.000]  Most states are very similar in the structure and nature of the laws.
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.000]  Well, speaking of Connecticut, we have Dan from Connecticut on the line.
[01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  Let's go to our caller.
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.000]  Dan, thanks for calling in.
[01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:27.000]  What is your question for our guest?
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.000]  Well, I didn't have a question for the guest,
[01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:36.000]  but I did have an interesting story about how a chicken dance did happen up in Connecticut today.
[01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:37.000]  Okay.
[01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:38.000]  Okay, well, go ahead.
[01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.000]  We've got a few minutes before break.
[01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:48.000]  Okay, well, is this guy that plagiarized somebody's motion to plagiarize Randy's motion?
[01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:52.000]  Well, it looks like he'd earned a little more respect today.
[01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  It was about a five to seven minute proceeding.
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:59.000]  Before the proceeding, he wanted to do a franks hearing,
[01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:04.000]  and he basically went to not one, not two, but four different courts,
[01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.000]  could not find a blank subpoena and brought that up right off the bat.
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.000]  That was after the prosecutor did her little rain dance of like,
[01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  oh, we're only looking to put this guy in jail for two years and eight probation,
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000]  which, by the way, is down from the 20 they were looking for.
[01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:27.000]  And basically in his mother of all motions to dismiss, he has a judicial misconduct complaint
[01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  not brought before her magistrate.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  The whole record is like incomplete.
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:37.000]  They did everything wrong.
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:43.000]  So basically after that happened, he wanted to not only call the person who signed the arrest warrant,
[01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.000]  not only just the investigator and the officer,
[01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  but the prosecutor to the stand because it looks like she is continually withholding exculpatory evidence.
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:55.000]  And so the prosecutor, quite flustered, says,
[01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:02.000]  well, if you subpoena me, I'm going to go to the attorney general and get the subpoena quashed.
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:05.000]  This was excellent to watch, to say the least.
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:10.000]  And the judge, I mean, kind of looking down at this mother of all motions to dismiss,
[01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:13.000]  at the beginning of the hearing, he said, yes, we know you're competent,
[01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:18.000]  and this is the guy who was railroaded through the arbitrary psychiatric evaluation.
[01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:24.000]  They actually asked him first what day was best to come back to the court for a continuance.
[01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.000]  He wanted this guy out of the courtroom like he wouldn't believe.
[01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  Now, here's the interesting part about it.
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  He actually wanted this guy to present oral arguments
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:40.000]  and the prosecutor present oral arguments on the motion.
[01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:46.000]  Now, I was looking through the citations concerning the stuff that Randy had sent me.
[01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:51.000]  It turns out that trespassed ab initio and all the questions that he routinely brings up,
[01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:55.000]  they've never been argued in Connecticut before.
[01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  And this judge, he had a strange reaction on his face.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.000]  Let me just describe that briefly.
[01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.000]  Half of it seemed like, wow, this is really good.
[01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:12.000]  And the other half of it seemed like, wow, I'm in a bunch of crap now, aren't I?
[01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.000]  That would be about right.
[01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:18.000]  Yeah, so I've never heard of that happening before,
[01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:24.000]  but the prosecutor was visibly disturbed to stay the wait.
[01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.000]  Well, it's all Randy's fault.
[01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.000]  It's always Randy's fault.
[01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  Yeah, it's my fault too.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:33.000]  I confess, they plagiarized my documents.
[01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:36.000]  Yeah, and I just threw in the Connecticut statute.
[01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.000]  Okay, Dan, do you have other stuff for us?
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  Was this Curtis, Dan?
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.000]  I just wanted to let you know about that.
[01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:46.000]  This is Dan Real from Connecticut.
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  I don't know, was this Curtis that we're talking about?
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:51.000]  No.
[01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:56.000]  Okay, Dan, stay on the line if you have more for us.
[01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.000]  We'll be right back.
[01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:01.000]  Hello, Austin.
[01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.000]  My name is Harlan Dietrich, owner of Brave New Books,
[01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:06.000]  a local independent bookstore here in town.
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[01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.000]  Thank you, everyone.
[01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:31.000]  If I can't get everything I need
[01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:36.000]  Maybe I'll get a rain chair
[01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:41.000]  If I can't get everything I need
[01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:47.000]  Maybe I'll get a rain chair
[01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:52.000]  If the people of the world can get happiness and peace
[01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:59.000]  Maybe I'll get a rain chair
[01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:03.000]  We can get all these crazy rewards to see
[01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:06.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:10.000]  And again, folks, please forgive the background noise on Pat's channel.
[01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:13.000]  He's up on top of a very tall tower, hanging on with one arm
[01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.000]  and with a cell phone in the other hand
[01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:19.000]  and having trouble keeping the dogs under control in the background.
[01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:22.000]  So forgive us if this is very good information.
[01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:25.000]  Okay, Dan, do you have anything else for us?
[01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:28.000]  Yes, it got a little more interesting on top of that.
[01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:32.000]  The day before, actually that would be yesterday,
[01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:36.000]  this guy gets a letter and this was from a state's attorney,
[01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  but it was not from the state's attorney on the case.
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.000]  And he was basically asking for a witness list
[01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.000]  and a list of people he intends to call,
[01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:49.000]  which I thought that was pretty weird.
[01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:54.000]  So we talked about it and basically decided, you know, ask a few questions,
[01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  like what about all that evidence we filed the motion, you know, for you to produce,
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:02.000]  which the court was supposed to order you to hand all of that over.
[01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  And B, well, we really don't know who we're going to call
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:13.000]  because we intend to put all of your witnesses on our witness list.
[01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:17.000]  And on top of that, we really wouldn't even know what kind of experts we would need
[01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  because you never even gave us any other evidence.
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:24.000]  But we will tell you this, we do intend to have a frank hearing.
[01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  We do intend to put, you know, the state's attorney on the stand.
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.000]  And oh, by the way, who are you?
[01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:31.000]  Are you co-counsel?
[01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:37.000]  Are you a prosecutor pro tem since we put into motion to disqualify the state's attorney?
[01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:39.000]  What's the deal here?
[01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:45.000]  Oh, you surely should give them at least one person you want to call.
[01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.000]  Oh, we gave them four.
[01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:50.000]  The magistrate who found probable cause.
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.000]  You want the judge on the stand.
[01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:53.000]  Yep, that was one of them.
[01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  Good.
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:55.000]  That'll make them nuts.
[01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:59.000]  The investigator, so is the arresting officer, and so is the prosecutor.
[01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  Prosecutor did not like that.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:05.000]  Life is tough, Bubba.
[01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:07.000]  Yep, well, I figure it this way.
[01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:10.000]  Well, if you don't want to be subpoenaed, don't hide evidence.
[01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:13.000]  It's real easy.
[01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:17.000]  Well, it will be interesting to see how this Supreme Court comes out,
[01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:25.000]  case comes out on that very issue, on hiding and fabricating evidence.
[01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:26.000]  Yeah, really.
[01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.000]  Usually they call that a no-no.
[01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:30.000]  I would say that that's a big no-no.
[01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.000]  I should mention this.
[01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:37.000]  I told this guy, I'm like, look, you know, I know you've been doing all this
[01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:40.000]  negative vermin stuff, which is kind of what, you know,
[01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  started getting him off the sidetrack to begin with,
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.000]  because you really didn't understand it that well.
[01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  But I said, look, maybe you should go out and, you know,
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.000]  purchase a copy of jurisdictionary, and he did.
[01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.000]  You know, and he actually started looking through it, and, you know,
[01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  he's really starting to put the pieces together on his own.
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  I mean, he was starting to find stuff that I didn't get.
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:04.000]  Incredible.
[01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  I highly recommend it.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  There's nothing like a little bit of knowledge.
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:15.000]  Yeah, and he is, I think he's going to be, you know,
[01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  after I've found out about it and talked to him with him a little bit,
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  you know, he's really starting to take it over.
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:26.000]  And I think when he goes back on the 15th, you know, of December,
[01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:31.000]  which, you know, the judge asked him first, hey, what day is good for you?
[01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  You know, he'll really be able to argue this out.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  That is absolutely a good sign that now the court's paying attention.
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  Yeah, and not only that, I was surprised that, you know, I was expecting,
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:47.000]  you know, but the one thing that troubled me, though,
[01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:50.000]  is the judge said he intends to rule on the motions.
[01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  One of those motions is the motion to disqualify himself, but, you know,
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.000]  hey, why not have at it?
[01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  But at the same time, I was a little heartened to hear that he wanted to hear
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  oral arguments on it.
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:05.000]  On a motion to disqualify himself?
[01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:06.000]  Yes.
[01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  Have you checked Connecticut law?
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:13.000]  Because there's no state I've seen so far where a judge can rule on a motion
[01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  to disqualify himself.
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.000]  He has a statute somewhere, but he cannot do that.
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:21.000]  I got an email from someone today that said that in their state,
[01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  a judge can rule on a motion to disqualify themselves.
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.000]  I forgot which state it is.
[01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.000]  I'll have to look up the email.
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:28.000]  Disqualify or recuse?
[01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.000]  No, disqualify.
[01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  Maybe the, you know, whoever wrote me that email was thinking of recusal,
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:38.000]  but that's what I saw today.
[01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:41.000]  It didn't make much sense to me.
[01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:50.000]  Yeah, I mean, and even then, if I believe it's Connecticut general statute 51-51I,
[01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:54.000]  I think in one of the grounds to remove a judge is, you know,
[01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:59.000]  he violates the canon of judicial ethics, which would most likely include,
[01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:03.000]  you know, ruling on a motion to disqualify himself.
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  I mean, you know, that's already in, like, you know,
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:09.000]  the mother of all motions to dismiss because he didn't immediately rule to,
[01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  you know, produce the evidence.
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:15.000]  He didn't immediately rule on jurisdictional challenge.
[01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.000]  I saw the negative averment stuff that he'd written up,
[01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  and I would think at least if the judge wanted to do his job,
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:26.000]  he'd probably arrive at the same conclusion that I would just based on what I saw.
[01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:32.000]  And I'm not saying outright that the process itself isn't valid in some way.
[01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:37.000]  It's just I read through it, and it was one presumption on top of another presumption,
[01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:42.000]  and if both those presumptions are true, all the case law works, but here's the problem.
[01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:46.000]  Presumption one is all your cases are an admiralty,
[01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:50.000]  and presumption two is you're not a U.S. citizen.
[01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:55.000]  You know, so I could kind of see where, you know, he would have went off base with that,
[01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:58.000]  but I would think if the judge was responsible,
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:03.000]  he would have at least looked at it and said, Guy, you know, this doesn't make any sense.
[01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  Yeah, I just looked up the email. It's in Michigan.
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:12.000]  This listener said that in Michigan a judge has a first crack at ruling on a motion to disqualify himself.
[01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:15.000]  I don't know if that's true or not, but it doesn't make much sense.
[01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.000]  It seems like a conflict of interest to me.
[01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  But yeah, I'll keep you guys posted on this.
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:25.000]  Well, in fact, the person who sent me the email is on the caller board right now.
[01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:29.000]  Excellent, but I will keep you posted, but I will say this.
[01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:33.000]  This is the most 10 entertaining minutes I've had in quite a while.
[01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.000]  Excellent. All right, Dan.
[01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:39.000]  She should have been wearing her brown pants. That's all I'll say.
[01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.000]  Okay. All right. Thanks, Dan.
[01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  No, not a problem. Take it easy.
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  Okay. We're going to go now to Mark in Wisconsin,
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:51.000]  one of our affiliates broadcasting us on the FMs up there in Madison.
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:54.000]  Love that town. Mark, thanks for calling in.
[01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:58.000]  What is your question or comment for our guest?
[01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:06.000]  Well, I just wanted to say I went to Bureau of Land Management on their computer there.
[01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.000]  Well, earlier today I went to my neighbor's house.
[01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:11.000]  She's 82, and I asked her who owned the farm here, you know,
[01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.000]  where all our properties are right here right now.
[01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  She's been in the area quite a long time.
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  And she looked through the list of names, and she found a man named Walter Stump,
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:26.000]  and she said that this used to be his farm.
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:29.000]  And she looked it up at Bureau of Land Management,
[01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:35.000]  and a document came down, a 160-year-old document came down off the computer
[01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:42.000]  signed by the President of the United States, James Buchanan, for a land patent.
[01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:46.000]  And you can actually order a certified copy right offline.
[01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:52.000]  So I'm actually holding my land patent right here, and it took me all of an hour of research.
[01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:55.000]  That's great.
[01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.000]  See how easy it is?
[01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:00.000]  Yeah, I was a little shocked.
[01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:06.000]  I've got a 160-year-old document in my hand right now signed by the President of the United States.
[01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:11.000]  Now, I was wondering, you have to go to that team law,
[01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  they know a procedure for getting assignments.
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:16.000]  Is that what you were saying?
[01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:26.000]  Yeah, they have the form that every state in the union will accept for the assignment
[01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:31.000]  to bring that patent forward into your name.
[01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:35.000]  And you have to give a certified copy of the patent
[01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:41.000]  plus a certified copy of the survey of your property to team law?
[01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:42.000]  Yeah, all right.
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.000]  What you're going to do is you're going to send a certified copy of the patent,
[01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:51.000]  certified copy of the survey, a certified copy of the deed to them.
[01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:54.000]  That makes the basis of your packet.
[01:27:54.000 --> 01:28:01.000]  Then they'll put two other documents on top of that that they will send back to you in the proper format.
[01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:09.000]  You get it signed in front of a notary, it's notarized, and then you file that in your county.
[01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  And what I did is I took mine and I also filed it in the archive section in Austin at GLO
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.000]  so that it went with the land patent.
[01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  I am the first person, or my wife and I are the first person since 1935,
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:31.000]  to bring our land patent forward in assignment.
[01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:35.000]  And do you file that with a register of deeds in your county?
[01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:39.000]  Yeah.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:43.000]  And the reason why we did it in the county is because the state,
[01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:50.000]  I don't know about another state, but in Texas they dispersed the keeping of all the records
[01:28:50.000 --> 01:29:00.000]  of all the land ownership documents into the county back about 1943, 44.
[01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:05.000]  It used to be such a massive amount of paperwork in Austin.
[01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:08.000]  They just didn't have the manpower to do it.
[01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:11.000]  That's the reason they stayed anyway.
[01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:13.000]  Pat, quick question.
[01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:17.000]  You said you're the first person since the 30s to bring the patent forward.
[01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:20.000]  No, it is for my piece of property.
[01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:21.000]  For your piece of property, right.
[01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:29.000]  Does that mean that someone else or some other entity has had control or ownership of the patent in the meantime?
[01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:33.000]  No, the person that had the patent died.
[01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:35.000]  So it was just out there and no one had it?
[01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  It was just out there.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:43.000]  What happened was she had sold the property on a deed before she died,
[01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.000]  and the patent was never brought forward.
[01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:46.000]  Okay, all right.
[01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  Hold that thought.
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:49.000]  Mark, do you have anything else for us?
[01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  Mark from Wisconsin?
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:51.000]  Yeah, I have one more comment.
[01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:52.000]  Okay, Mark, stay on the line.
[01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:55.000]  And then we're going to go to Mark from Michigan.
[01:29:55.000 --> 01:30:00.000]  After that, we'll be right back.
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[01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:43.000]  Okay, tools of ingenuity. That's what we're talking about here, what we got here.
[01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:46.000]  Okay, so we've got Mark from Wisconsin.
[01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:53.000]  Pat, you want to go ahead and just finish up real quick what you were talking about concerning your property?
[01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:59.000]  Well, my property is typical of a lot of property across the nation.
[01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:07.000]  People got the property, purchased it, got a patent on it, it was issued,
[01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:12.000]  and then when they went to sell it, for whatever reason,
[01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:18.000]  the attorneys that handled the sale at the title company or at the bank or whatever
[01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:23.000]  did not bring the patent forward. They didn't transfer the patent.
[01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:29.000]  What they did is they wrote out a deed. They put it into commerce,
[01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:36.000]  which allowed somebody else to get a lien on it, get a mortgage, whatever.
[01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:42.000]  But that left the patent sitting there in limbo. The patent's still good.
[01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:51.000]  It was never revoked. It's like your caller there,
[01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:57.000]  who has that 160-year-old document signed by President Buchanan.
[01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:05.000]  My father-in-law has a piece of property up across Stick Mountain outside of Muskogee, Oklahoma.
[01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:13.000]  His property, his patent is signed by President Buchanan.
[01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:19.000]  He didn't realize that he had a patent in his hand.
[01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:23.000]  My father-in-law is almost 80 years old.
[01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:31.000]  He didn't know, he'd never been told the difference between a deed and a patent
[01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:36.000]  before I explained it to him.
[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  It's not an uncommon situation.
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  Do you have more questions, more callers?
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:49.000]  We still have Mark from Wisconsin Online. Mark, go ahead. You had another comment?
[01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:56.000]  Our Milwaukee office in Wisconsin handles about five or six other states.
[01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:02.000]  If you do a search for your state and then put land patents,
[01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:11.000]  the appropriate office will probably come up under BLM land patents.
[01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:17.000]  I went to another website and I found a listing of all the land patents in Wisconsin.
[01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:22.000]  Some really nice lady archived it for some reason.
[01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:30.000]  Anyway, I downloaded all that and there's not too many assignments on these original documents.
[01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  There was one that had like six or seven assignments in a row.
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:39.000]  My neighbor, she's 82, she goes, who's that?
[01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:41.000]  I mean, nobody's getting assignments.
[01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:44.000]  What's this guy know that everybody else doesn't know?
[01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:46.000]  I said, oh, he's probably a mason.
[01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.000]  They love screwing everybody over, getting theirs and leaving everybody else out in the cold.
[01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:52.000]  What's her name?
[01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:55.000]  She reads it off and it's Lucius Lyons.
[01:34:55.000 --> 01:35:00.000]  I said, yes, Lucifer the Lion.
[01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.000]  Oh, boy.
[01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.000]  Hey, thanks a lot for the information.
[01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.000]  I can't tell you how much this means to me, having this in my hand right now.
[01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.000]  Anyway, have a good night. Bye-bye.
[01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.000]  Thank you.
[01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:14.000]  Thank you, Mark.
[01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:15.000]  Good night.
[01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:20.000]  Thank you for the seeds, Mark from SurvivorSeeds.com.
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:22.000]  We've got to plug his product.
[01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:23.000]  That's who that is.
[01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  Yes.
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  I've got a lot of his seeds.
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  Yes, Mark from Wisconsin, SurvivorSeeds.com, and you can get to his website.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:40.000]  You can type it in, survivor, not survival, but SurvivorSeeds.com,
[01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:49.000]  or you can go there from ruleoflawradio.com by clicking on the little image of the fruits and vegetables on the home page.
[01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  Okay.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:36:03.000]  We are going now to Mark in Michigan who sent me an email earlier, I don't know, sometime in the last few days concerning judges ruling on motions to disqualify themselves.
[01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:05.000]  Mark, thanks for calling in.
[01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:07.000]  Hey, guys.
[01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:11.000]  Yes, actually I did send it last night when I heard you guys talking about it.
[01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:15.000]  I wasn't sure if you checked that email when the discussion was going on.
[01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  But if you remember, I called in and we just went through this, got the judge to recuse herself on a case because she had done some things.
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:34.000]  I found this in a bench book in Michigan here, and it deals specifically with this.
[01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:42.000]  It talks about how the challenge judge decides on the motion to disqualify.
[01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:52.000]  And it says if the challenge judge denies the motion, and if requested by a party, the motion shall be referred to the chief judge who shall decide at de novo.
[01:36:52.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  But the judge specifically gets a crack at it before it goes anywhere else.
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  And I was actually taken aback that they got an opportunity to do this, but it's right there, and they sure do.
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:22.000]  So I guess we might be unique in that fashion, but it's not unheard of for them to be able to rule on that motion.
[01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:32.000]  Well, most of the judges I know of today, all they should be getting a crack at is making little rocks out of big rocks.
[01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:33.000]  Well, it's true.
[01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:36.000]  And I suspect this is to save face.
[01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  I mean, this is probably something that was pushed through either by the bar or by the judges themselves.
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:46.000]  But nonetheless, it's there.
[01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:52.000]  So I'd let you know and remove the mystery.
[01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:53.000]  Excellent.
[01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:54.000]  Okay.
[01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:55.000]  Thanks, guys.
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:56.000]  Thank you, Mark.
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.000]  And thanks for the email.
[01:37:58.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  Okay.
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  Okay.
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:12.000]  The only other SkyChat question I have left on the list at this point for all of you guys, I guess I could chime in on this as well,
[01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:21.000]  is can you guys please explain, and this may seem like an obvious question or obvious answers,
[01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:30.000]  what all are the potential benefits of having a loyal title of your property or bringing the land patent forward
[01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:39.000]  other than potentially being able to get your property off of the tax roll and, you know, like the IRS and such, and not being able to file liens?
[01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:49.000]  Maybe this is just an overview question of what exactly does it mean, what are the benefits, and maybe what are the downsides, if any?
[01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:56.000]  In having a true title to the property, you become a freeholder.
[01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:09.000]  And if you'll do a word search on freeholder and actually follow that one back to what it actually means,
[01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:26.000]  then they'll start to understand the change in status of the person or the man and the woman that have that title.
[01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:29.000]  And title is not even the right word for that.
[01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:33.000]  It's a descriptive term of what they are.
[01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:34.000]  They're freeholders.
[01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:38.000]  They're not holding to the state.
[01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:49.000]  In other words, they don't have to pay sovereign to a state or to the federal government or to some other sovereign.
[01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:53.000]  They themselves are sovereign.
[01:39:53.000 --> 01:40:00.000]  And that is the basis for why this country was established.
[01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  And unfortunately, these types of things haven't been taught probably in almost 100 years.
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  And I'm not going to say that the person that asked that was asking it to be frivolous.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.000]  Quite contrary, they're asking a very big question.
[01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  But it's going to entail a lot of reading on their part to truly understand what it means to be a sovereign and a freeholder
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:54.000]  and to be a king in your own right or a queen in your own right and not have to bow down to somebody else.
[01:40:54.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  That's basically what it means.
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:08.000]  Yeah, you have freehold of your property, you have total jurisdiction of your own property.
[01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:13.000]  There are no other jurisdictions that are supreme to yours.
[01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  So that would mean no city ordinances, no county ordinances?
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  No permits required, no ordinances, no search warrants can be issued.
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:33.000]  This imminent domain does not even come into question.
[01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:40.000]  You know, this whole thing about keto and Proposition 11 that just got voted on
[01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:48.000]  with the constitutional amendments here in the state of Texas that deal with keto, imminent domain goes out the window.
[01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.000]  There is none.
[01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:59.000]  I watched the lady over in Houston get chiseled out of 280 acres inside the city limits of Houston.
[01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:11.000]  They had patent on the property, but her family attorney told her otherwise, she wouldn't listen to me.
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:23.000]  And she wound up accepting very little money for some very prime property under imminent domain.
[01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:32.000]  And when she found out otherwise from another person, she was very excited, let's put it this way.
[01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:38.000]  And she went after an attorney with a butcher knife.
[01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:43.000]  I thought she was going to scalp the young man, she should have.
[01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:51.000]  But she got the property back because of fraud, and what the attorney did.
[01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:55.000]  And then turned around and told her to give.
[01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:58.000]  I hope she got a good price this time.
[01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:03.000]  About $10 million more than what she was going to get otherwise.
[01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  Good.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:07.000]  So there are a lot of benefits.
[01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:11.000]  The downside is you're not going to get a mortgage on the property.
[01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:15.000]  It's not in commerce.
[01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:21.000]  If that is what somebody is trying to do, if you have patent first,
[01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:25.000]  they're going to tell you remove the patent, put it back in the deed,
[01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:30.000]  then we will give you a mortgage if you have to have money.
[01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:35.000]  When you go to sell the property, if the buyers are going to put a mortgage on it,
[01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.000]  they'll have to put it in the deed.
[01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.000]  That's too bad.
[01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  Okay, well listen, we're going to break.
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[01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.000]  We've got Meta from Texas.
[01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:58.000]  Meta, thanks for calling in.
[01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:00.000]  What's on your mind?
[01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:04.000]  Well, just a comment about what does it mean, a patent?
[01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:12.000]  And the case comes to mind with one out of California where these people had some lands that the state wanted
[01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:17.000]  and they tried to go in and do the eminent domain and take it.
[01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:22.000]  And as with every case that ever went before the court and it went up to the Supreme Court
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:29.000]  to the point that the Supreme Court said we will no longer rule on this, the land patent is supreme.
[01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:33.000]  The land patent owner wins every case.
[01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.000]  And the same was in California.
[01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:42.000]  I believe it was some wetlands that the state was trying to take away from people who had a land patent.
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:44.000]  And I can't remember the name of the case.
[01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:46.000]  I just remember the case itself.
[01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:53.000]  And that was you own it and the state can't take it.
[01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:59.000]  Yeah, not only the state, but also the federal government can't touch it either.
[01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:06.000]  Let's go back to that question earlier about the IRS liens.
[01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:07.000]  It's a joke.
[01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:11.000]  It's a nasty moron.
[01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:18.000]  The IRS can rant and rave and do whatever they want to do, but they're not going to get a lot of traction.
[01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:23.000]  So they can file the notice of lien, they just can never execute the lien.
[01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:26.000]  Oh, they could execute themselves.
[01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.000]  They're not going to execute the lien.
[01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:31.000]  The lien is against the person, not the property.
[01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:33.000]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:38.000]  See, and I was just talking to a man today here in Carroll County.
[01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  He bought some property, four houses out here at the last property jack sale.
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:56.000]  And the sheriff gave him a sheriff's fee, which listed all four properties on the same piece of paper.
[01:47:56.000 --> 01:48:05.000]  Unfortunately, he's had to go into court and try and defend all four of those properties now
[01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:10.000]  because somebody else wanted that deed back.
[01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:19.000]  And with all tax sales, that sheriff's deed isn't worth the papers written on.
[01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:26.000]  So this next week I'm helping him perfect patents on all of them,
[01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:35.000]  which is really simple, as your previous caller had shown.
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:44.000]  And he was really upset because one of the people that was trying to take one of the properties back away from him
[01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:49.000]  is our own dear sheriff who signed the deed in the first place.
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:56.000]  Isn't there a case or a show, I believe, it was on Michael Batnerich's show,
[01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:02.000]  the ladies up in Washington or Oregon State where they talked about that kind of stuff?
[01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:04.000]  Yeah.
[01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  There's a group up there that are forcing the county clerks to actually go back
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  and question all notice of liens filed by the IRS
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:21.000]  and prove that there's a judicial substance to each one of them
[01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:35.000]  because the originator of the group had a notice of lien filed on her by the IRS by mistake,
[01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:40.000]  and they tried to take her house and everything from her.
[01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  And she went through a five-year battle on it, and all she had was the deed.
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:48.000]  Yes, I remember them.
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:49.000]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:51.000]  I have to interject something here at this point.
[01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:57.000]  All right, we just got another four callers appear on the call board.
[01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:02.000]  There's no way we're going to have time to take all these callers in the next eight minutes.
[01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  Pat, do you want to stay on for a little while?
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:09.000]  Is your arm hanged?
[01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:12.000]  I mean, if they got questions, fire them up.
[01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.000]  Okay, well, we had pretty much decided we're not going to do overtime anymore,
[01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:19.000]  but this show is too good, so I'm willing to go in overtime.
[01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:23.000]  You know, listeners, I do have to work on the video and the audio from the seminar
[01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  so people can be able to get their recordings in the seminar.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:29.000]  Oh, you know we want one of those.
[01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  I know.
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:34.000]  Well, see, I can't do everything all at the same time, but I mean, Pat, you're the one.
[01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.000]  I don't know why you can't multitask.
[01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:39.000]  Oh, God, you know, I can only multitask so much.
[01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:42.000]  But anyway, you're the one up on the tower hanging by one arm,
[01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:44.000]  so if you're willing to stay in the overtime.
[01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:45.000]  I'm fine.
[01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:46.000]  I'm fine.
[01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.000]  I'll get down here and get some dogs here in a minute.
[01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:50.000]  Okay, callers, so just hang tight.
[01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:54.000]  We'll take your calls.
[01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.000]  Okay, it looks like Meta dropped off the line.
[01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:00.000]  Yeah, she made her comments.
[01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:02.000]  I'll call her at home later.
[01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:05.000]  Okay, all right, so are you ready to go on to the next caller, or did you have any?
[01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:07.000]  I'm fine, shoot.
[01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:10.000]  Okay, all right, we have Jesse from Texas who is up next.
[01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:12.000]  Okay, Jesse, thanks for calling in.
[01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:14.000]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:20.000]  Hey, I just caught in the, you know, the last 30 minutes of the show.
[01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:27.000]  I mean, you know, I'm traveling, but I've been reading a lot about, I forgot the term.
[01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:31.000]  What is the term we're talking about tonight?
[01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:36.000]  We're talking about, yeah, land patents.
[01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:44.000]  Yes, and then, so I guess I just caught, like I said, the last 30 minutes of the show.
[01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:49.000]  I was just trying to get a little bit more in depth on the person.
[01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  Has he done these land patents here in Texas?
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:54.000]  Say again, sir?
[01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:58.000]  Have he done these land patents in Texas?
[01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:00.000]  Only mine.
[01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:05.000]  Yeah, he has his land patent on his own property.
[01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:07.000]  That's terrific.
[01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.000]  Yeah, I'm out here in West Texas.
[01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:16.000]  And if you need to find the copy, your copy of your land patent,
[01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  it's in the archive section of the General Land Office in Austin.
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:29.000]  It's three blocks north of the Capitol Building on Congress Street.
[01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:32.000]  And how do we go and look for that land patent?
[01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:34.000]  You can do it online.
[01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  If you'll Google the Texas General Land Office, they'll come up with a website.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:46.000]  You go in there and you go to the archive section,
[01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  and it's going to ask you some very specific questions starting with which county you are in or the land is in.
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:53:01.000]  And then it's going to ask you if you know the survey that it's on.
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:13.000]  And normally that survey is by block and section of a particular survey, like block A to section whatever.
[01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.000]  The legal description?
[01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:24.000]  Do the legal description of it, and it will come up with a copy of the patent online.
[01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:27.000]  You can download it like that.
[01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:31.000]  But if you want a certified copy, you'll have to email them.
[01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:38.000]  They have a way of getting that online right there, and it's $5 a copy for a certified copy.
[01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:49.000]  Okay, and it's the Texas General Land Office?
[01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:56.000]  Yes, and Jesse, I'll have the archive of this show posted a little bit later this evening.
[01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  We brought Pat on at starting the second hour,
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  and he explained in depth in great detail how to go through this process step-by-step.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:10.000]  Okay, all right.
[01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:12.000]  Well, great.
[01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:13.000]  Thank you very much.
[01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:15.000]  It was a great show again.
[01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:16.000]  Thanks for the information.
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:17.000]  Not a problem.
[01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:18.000]  Thank you, Jesse.
[01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:20.000]  Thank you for calling in.
[01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:23.000]  Thank you for listening.
[01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:28.000]  Okay, we are going now to Guy in Oregon.
[01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:29.000]  Guy, thanks for calling in.
[01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:33.000]  What is your question or comment for our guest?
[01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  Yeah, interesting show.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:38.000]  I've got a question regarding doing this.
[01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:46.000]  If there is a state or federal lien already on the property in question?
[01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:53.000]  I understand that all liens are basically placed on the deed.
[01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:56.000]  You cannot place the lien on a patent.
[01:54:56.000 --> 01:55:02.000]  If the property in question has already had, if it's in Oregon,
[01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:09.000]  you will have a U.S. land patent issued on it if it has one.
[01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:16.000]  And at that point, it doesn't really make a lot of difference who has the lien.
[01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  If you have brought the patent forward
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:25.000]  or if you do bring the patent forward before the lien is totally executed,
[01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:33.000]  in other words, you lose the property, then you still own it.
[01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:36.000]  And that's when you can go back to them
[01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:40.000]  because the court will not override a land patent.
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:43.000]  They cannot.
[01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:47.000]  That's already been adjudicated too many times.
[01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:51.000]  Does the – let me interrupt here a second.
[01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:55.000]  Does the UCC financing statement have any bearing on this?
[01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:58.000]  No.
[01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:03.000]  The UCC statement is a commerce statement.
[01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:13.000]  And what we're talking about is common law title to property, freehold.
[01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:24.000]  And commerce lien and statements and all the other stuff have no place in common law.
[01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:27.000]  Pat, do you have to make it clear when you're bringing forward this patent
[01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:34.000]  that it's not the straw man that is bringing forth the patent but the natural man?
[01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:35.000]  No, no.
[01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:36.000]  You have to understand.
[01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:44.000]  You go ahead and put your name in there in the proper casing, you know, cap, first letter,
[01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:48.000]  the rest of it, lowercase, that shows proper name.
[01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:52.000]  But you don't have to make any other statement.
[01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:55.000]  There's no caveats to this.
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:57.000]  This isn't rocket science.
[01:56:57.000 --> 01:56:59.000]  This is laid out very simply.
[01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:01.000]  Let me back up a moment.
[01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:08.000]  A number of years ago I filed a UCC financing statement on the property in question.
[01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:09.000]  Okay.
[01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:17.000]  And all property taxes that have been paid, you know, through the payment of the mortgage on the property,
[01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:26.000]  sure yet again the state has issued a, you know, faulty writ claiming that there's a lien.
[01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:31.000]  It possibly could be IRS involved also.
[01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:40.000]  But, you know, first in line is through, you know, the UCC thing, even though, yeah, that is commerce.
[01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:49.000]  But any effective supposed notice of lien or writ or whatnot, you could still go ahead
[01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:58.000]  and do a land patent on the block and be able to acquire full title over and above
[01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  whatever anybody else wants to do to the property, correct?
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:04.000]  Correct.
[01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:11.000]  Yeah, you can block anybody else's actions, especially from the state or the federal voice
[01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:21.000]  because that comes into their commerce actions on commercial property.
[01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:24.000]  All right, listen, we're coming up to the top of the hour, the midnight hour.
[01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:26.000]  We're going to go into overtime.
[01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:29.000]  We've got Jim from Ohio, Mark and Austin.
[01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  Guy, you want to hang on the line?
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:32.000]  No, that's good.
[01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:33.000]  Go ahead.
[01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:34.000]  Get the other callers up.
[01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:35.000]  Okay.
[01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:36.000]  All right.
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:37.000]  Very good.
[01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  All right, pats up for hanging in there, hanging out up there.
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:44.000]  I'm still hanging in there.
[01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:45.000]  Literally.
[01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.000]  Literally hanging up there on the tower.
[01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:48.000]  Amazing.
[01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:52.000]  Well, they haven't found me yet, but I'm still hanging in there.
[01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:55.000]  Okay, callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:57.000]  We'll be back in just a couple minutes.
[01:58:57.000 --> 01:59:07.000]  We've got to sell a little too far at sea, and then we've got to get back on course we want to be.
[01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:12.000]  So we go on a heavy advisory from the man that came all the way from Galilee.
[01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:18.000]  I put this all at stake in one place to be where I don't have to work so hard to be free.
[01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:22.000]  Some guys are trying to rewrite history, but they got caught.
[01:59:22.000 --> 01:59:30.000]  Now them guys got the blame, looks like justice.
[01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:36.000]  Looks like justice.
[01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:58.000]  Yeah, yeah.