ROL_2009-11-06_16k_Hr1-2.timecode

[00:17.000 --> 00:21.920]  In a speech broadcast over the past two days on the radio, Taliban Pakistan chief Haki
[00:21.920 --> 00:27.360]  Mullah Masood has cautioned against fleeing from the battlefield. Haki Mullah said deserters
[00:27.360 --> 00:33.560]  were cowards and will go to hell and that is a very bad place. The Afghan police officer
[00:33.560 --> 00:38.640]  who shot dead five British soldiers in Helmand Tuesday approached the Taliban two months
[00:38.640 --> 00:43.800]  ago to offer his services and sought refuge with the insurgents after carrying out the
[00:43.800 --> 00:49.280]  killings. Taliban militants welcomed the renegade officer with flowers after he escaped British
[00:49.280 --> 00:58.040]  and Afghan troops. Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko all but declared martial law in
[00:58.040 --> 01:03.620]  the country Thursday. The National Security and Defense Council, a government body consisting
[01:03.620 --> 01:08.960]  of the president and other high ranking ministers, will become the supreme ruling authority in
[01:08.960 --> 01:15.000]  the wake of a mystery epidemic sweeping the country. Ukrainian health minister Vasilych
[01:15.000 --> 01:20.600]  Nesevich has asked the country's top prosecutor to open criminal proceedings against those
[01:20.600 --> 01:25.720]  who are opposed to implementing the mass flu vaccination. Reports suggest the epidemic
[01:25.720 --> 01:31.680]  in Ukraine is being caused by an unidentified virus with some indicating the virus constitutes
[01:31.680 --> 01:37.880]  a pneumonic plague. The Ukrainian news agency Fraza has reported it has been confirmed there
[01:37.880 --> 01:43.700]  is a 100% pneumonic plague in Ukraine and that in order to quell panic, only talk of
[01:43.700 --> 01:52.240]  swine flu has been sanctioned by the authorities. Carbon traders have refuted claims that the
[01:52.240 --> 01:58.400]  European emissions trading market is the next sub-prime crisis after a report by Friends
[01:58.400 --> 02:03.600]  of the Earth called for the system to be abolished. The environmental charity said the current
[02:03.600 --> 02:10.320]  system of trading permits fails to tackle climate change and is also financially dangerous.
[02:10.320 --> 02:15.520]  secondary only Europe has an emissions trading scheme where companies can buy and sell permits
[02:15.520 --> 02:21.240]  giving them the right to pollute the atmosphere with carbon dioxide. Sarah Jane Clifton, author
[02:21.240 --> 02:26.840]  of the report, said the growth of a secondary market in carbon trading involving financial
[02:26.840 --> 02:32.520]  speculators and complex financial products carries a risk that carbon trading will develop
[02:32.520 --> 02:38.560]  into a speculative commodity bubble. This could provide a global financial failure similar
[02:38.560 --> 02:44.000]  in scale and nature to that brought about by the sub-prime mortgage crisis. But Patrick
[02:44.000 --> 02:49.280]  Burley, chief executive of the European Climate Exchange, said the system is highly regulated
[02:49.280 --> 03:10.720]  and transparent.
[03:19.280 --> 03:47.080]  What are you going to do, what are you going to do, what are you going to do, when Sherry
[03:47.080 --> 04:05.600] ity come for you? Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to
[04:05.600 --> 04:13.920]  do, when they come for you? When you were 8 and you had bad traits. You go to school
[04:13.920 --> 04:33.720]  Okay, bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:33.720 --> 04:40.640]  Okay, high on the priority list right now is property tax issues, especially here in
[04:40.640 --> 04:42.560]  Travis County.
[04:42.560 --> 04:48.000]  A lot of people are really upset, myself included.
[04:48.000 --> 04:54.160]  You know, taxpayers paid for legislators to go into a special session, last legislative
[04:54.160 --> 04:59.740]  session to try to iron out this property tax issue.
[04:59.740 --> 05:05.760]  And it's a real problem because the whole point of it all was to pass legislation to
[05:05.760 --> 05:10.400]  get our property taxes reduced because they were already way out of hand.
[05:10.400 --> 05:16.400]  And instead, everyone's bill is like 30% more than it was last year.
[05:16.400 --> 05:22.240]  And so we are going to be bringing some people on tonight and coming up next week to try
[05:22.240 --> 05:25.640]  to get a remedy to this situation.
[05:25.640 --> 05:28.360]  Randy's been doing some research, Eddie's been doing some research, I've been doing
[05:28.360 --> 05:29.360]  some research.
[05:29.360 --> 05:36.960]  Tonight, in the second hour, we're going to bring on Pat from Texas, who knows how to
[05:36.960 --> 05:43.040]  deal with the land patent issue, how to go back and get a land patent to prove that your
[05:43.040 --> 05:44.680]  property is private property.
[05:44.680 --> 05:52.520]  Now, I do know of one remedy, one technique, but I've only briefly spent time with this
[05:52.520 --> 05:57.760]  individual who has basically mastered this technique involving you.
[05:57.760 --> 06:04.560]  Basically, the gist of it is this, you ask for a list of all the properties from your
[06:04.560 --> 06:11.280]  appraisal district, a list of properties that they have interest in, in other words, public
[06:11.280 --> 06:12.280]  properties.
[06:12.280 --> 06:16.600]  So they'll give you a list, library, schools, government buildings, etc.
[06:16.600 --> 06:21.560]  Then you follow up with a second letter asking them to confirm that your property is not
[06:21.560 --> 06:23.760]  on that list.
[06:23.760 --> 06:26.120]  And then they'll say, yes, your property is not on the list.
[06:26.120 --> 06:32.160]  Then you go petition the district court for an order declaring that your property is private
[06:32.160 --> 06:36.680]  property, and then you take that order back to the appraisal district saying, look, I
[06:36.680 --> 06:41.000]  have a court order, my property is private property, take my property off the tax roll.
[06:41.000 --> 06:43.440]  And they basically have to at that point.
[06:43.440 --> 06:47.560]  And then you don't need to argue with the appraisal district about taking your property
[06:47.560 --> 06:48.560]  off the tax roll.
[06:48.560 --> 06:54.440]  Now, the specifics of how you get that order and the nature of the petition and the filings
[06:54.440 --> 06:57.360]  is what I have not totally fleshed out yet.
[06:57.360 --> 07:01.720]  And I'll be talking to this person hopefully over the weekend and maybe even be able to
[07:01.720 --> 07:06.280]  get him on the show next week because even Pat Baker last night I spoke with him after
[07:06.280 --> 07:08.280]  we got off the air.
[07:08.280 --> 07:13.560]  And he said that in his county, you know, it's a piece of cake because the property
[07:13.560 --> 07:16.780]  taxes are like 30 bucks a year anyway.
[07:16.780 --> 07:23.240]  And so whoopty doo, you know, to have it taken off the tax roll because the appraisal district
[07:23.240 --> 07:28.540]  isn't losing any hardly any money anyway, because they're just in an extremely rural
[07:28.540 --> 07:33.880]  area of Texas down in south Texas. All right, but that's not the way it is here in Travis
[07:33.880 --> 07:39.680]  County and in major metropolitan areas like Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, etc. San Antonio,
[07:39.680 --> 07:40.680]  they're going to fight.
[07:40.680 --> 07:42.880]  The appraisal district is going to fight.
[07:42.880 --> 07:47.920]  And Pat told me last night that even if you go through his process to get your land patent,
[07:47.920 --> 07:52.520]  that basically all that does is prove that your property is private property.
[07:52.520 --> 07:57.040]  And that you still we still are most likely going to have to go through this additional
[07:57.040 --> 08:02.360]  process that procedure that I just described about getting the court order, etc, etc.
[08:02.360 --> 08:07.960]  He said we're still probably going to have to do that in addition to getting the land
[08:07.960 --> 08:08.960]  patent.
[08:08.960 --> 08:12.560]  The land patent is just additional proof that your property is private property.
[08:12.560 --> 08:15.280]  So we will be fleshing that out.
[08:15.280 --> 08:20.920]  And as that unfolds, we will be bringing either bringing that individual on the air that I've
[08:20.920 --> 08:25.720]  discussed that has discussed this situation with me, or I'll be going over that procedure
[08:25.720 --> 08:30.200]  myself in the upcoming week or so.
[08:30.200 --> 08:35.360]  And Pat Baker will be coming on in the second hour to discuss the procedure of getting land
[08:35.360 --> 08:36.360]  patents.
[08:36.360 --> 08:42.440]  And in the meantime, Eddie Craig has research that he's done regarding property taxes in
[08:42.440 --> 08:43.440]  Texas.
[08:43.440 --> 08:48.320]  So, Eddie, why don't you let us know what you've come up with tonight so far?
[08:48.320 --> 08:52.800]  Well, one of the common things in the tax code, just like it is in transportation code,
[08:52.800 --> 08:57.640]  as we all learned at the seminar, is the terminology and the language used.
[08:57.640 --> 09:01.840]  So once again, the first thing you want to do is start taking apart the information about
[09:01.840 --> 09:06.760]  the terms that they're using to describe you, the property, or whatever else they may be
[09:06.760 --> 09:08.960]  after at the moment.
[09:08.960 --> 09:15.400]  In the Texas tax code, there are three specific definitions of the term taxpayer.
[09:15.400 --> 09:20.560]  They are in Chapter 101 of the tax code, they are in Chapter 111 of the tax code, and they
[09:20.560 --> 09:24.080]  are in Chapter 141 of the tax code.
[09:24.080 --> 09:30.920]  We'll start with the simple one under Chapter 141, Multistate Tax Compact, sub-item 3.
[09:30.920 --> 09:37.600]  Taxpayer means any corporation, partnership, firm, association, governmental unit or agency
[09:37.600 --> 09:44.040]  or person acting as a business entity in more than one state.
[09:44.040 --> 09:46.520]  That's pretty succinct, don't you think?
[09:46.520 --> 09:52.840]  Chapter 111, taxpayer means the person whose tax obligation the comptroller is seeking
[09:52.840 --> 09:54.640]  to determine.
[09:54.640 --> 10:00.560]  Notice we have the term person and we have the term tax obligation.
[10:00.560 --> 10:08.360]  Then in Chapter 101, taxpayer means a person liable for a tax fee, assessment, or other
[10:08.360 --> 10:14.600]  amount imposed by a statute under the authority of a statutory function administered by the
[10:14.600 --> 10:15.600]  comptroller.
[10:15.600 --> 10:22.520]  Now, we know that statutes themselves are limited in what they can be applied to.
[10:22.520 --> 10:27.080]  A statute is not law, it is evidence of law.
[10:27.080 --> 10:32.040]  The Supreme Court has said time and time again that statutes when they're being administered
[10:32.040 --> 10:37.080]  by judges are ministerial in nature, which means they're administrative in nature.
[10:37.080 --> 10:40.320]  So these are administrative rules.
[10:40.320 --> 10:43.640]  Administrative rules have nothing to do with the people.
[10:43.640 --> 10:47.680]  But as we know from the term person that's used in each and every one of these, if we
[10:47.680 --> 10:53.960]  go back to the top of Chapter 101, we notice once again that the purpose of this title
[10:53.960 --> 10:58.600]  is to go through the statutory language revision program like they've done in every code in
[10:58.600 --> 11:03.920]  Texas since 1963, that's in 101.001.
[11:03.920 --> 11:08.800]  And then you have 101.002, construction of code.
[11:08.800 --> 11:11.440]  By now you guys should be familiar with this.
[11:11.440 --> 11:17.920]  The Code Construction Act, Chapter 311 government code applies to the construction of each
[11:17.920 --> 11:22.880]  provision of this title, except as specifically provided by this title.
[11:22.880 --> 11:29.140]  And as you all know, Chapter 311.005 sub-item 2 specifically defines person, pretty much
[11:29.140 --> 11:36.000]  just like it did back over here in Chapter 141, corporation, partnership, firm, association,
[11:36.000 --> 11:41.260]  governmental unit or agency, or any other legal entity.
[11:41.260 --> 11:47.640]  So everywhere the term taxpayer is defined in law, it is associated with a legal fiction.
[11:47.640 --> 11:51.480]  It is not associated with living people.
[11:51.480 --> 11:55.080]  It's never been associated with living people.
[11:55.080 --> 12:02.200]  And you will also find that when they define property, Section 1.04 tax code says the definition
[12:02.200 --> 12:03.940]  of property.
[12:03.940 --> 12:09.540]  Property means any matter or thing capable of private ownership.
[12:09.540 --> 12:15.780]  Now there is a separate definition for real property, for personal property, and tangible
[12:15.780 --> 12:18.160]  personal property.
[12:18.160 --> 12:24.580]  So as you can see, they all have different definitions and different terminology.
[12:24.580 --> 12:28.600]  So they are going to mean different things and they're going to apply different ways.
[12:28.600 --> 12:35.580]  Randy, you got anything you want to kick in on that?
[12:35.580 --> 12:41.440]  I'm just muted my mic, I don't know how to do that.
[12:41.440 --> 12:46.960]  I'm trying to be careful here because I don't want to steal Pat's thunder.
[12:46.960 --> 12:53.440]  What he's going to present when he talked about it yesterday, he called in yesterday,
[12:53.440 --> 13:03.520]  for the first time someone addressed the nature of the land patent and the nature of our titles
[13:03.520 --> 13:11.680]  that our deeds that the state holds that actually made sense.
[13:11.680 --> 13:21.440]  And it was understandable how the state was able to tax the property in that when the
[13:21.440 --> 13:29.400]  property was originally sold, when it belonged to the state of Texas and was sold to private
[13:29.400 --> 13:38.020]  interest as a lien against the property, a title was created.
[13:38.020 --> 13:50.340]  But once that payment to the state was matured, then the lien ended, but the state didn't
[13:50.340 --> 13:53.200]  tell anybody.
[13:53.200 --> 14:00.840]  So they just kept claiming that they held title and they convinced these moronic attorneys
[14:00.840 --> 14:06.080]  who didn't know any better to perpetuate the title.
[14:06.080 --> 14:12.480]  When in fact, all they had to do was bring forward the original land patent and the land
[14:12.480 --> 14:18.760]  that was sold by the state to private interest became the private property of the private
[14:18.760 --> 14:23.760]  interest and then the state could no longer tax it.
[14:23.760 --> 14:33.120]  One of the things I especially liked about it was that if you bring the land patent forward,
[14:33.120 --> 14:41.760]  the laws affecting property taxes that were in effect when the land patent was granted
[14:41.760 --> 14:48.240]  are the ones that apply to the land when you bring the patent forward.
[14:48.240 --> 14:55.720]  And try not to steal Pat's thunder, that was to me the most succinct presentation of how
[14:55.720 --> 15:00.880]  this should work that I had ever come across.
[15:00.880 --> 15:09.920]  So if you have property and no one has a legal claim against the property, we should be able
[15:09.920 --> 15:19.040]  to bring the patent forward and it becomes our personal private property and the implications
[15:19.040 --> 15:25.640]  of that from what I got yesterday and I'm sure Pat will expand on that today were rather
[15:25.640 --> 15:26.640]  interesting.
[15:26.640 --> 15:35.200]  I live in a small town in North Texas or used to, that's where my house is and it happens
[15:35.200 --> 15:39.040]  to be right next door to City Hall.
[15:39.040 --> 15:45.000]  And because I'm right next door to City Hall, those folks at City Hall like to try to tell
[15:45.000 --> 15:52.840]  me what to do with my property and we've had a few engagements.
[15:52.840 --> 15:58.160]  So far I've won most of them, but they think they can tell me what to do with my private
[15:58.160 --> 16:07.480]  property and what I understand about the nature of the land patent is it brings the property
[16:07.480 --> 16:15.120]  out of the control of governmental entities and brings it back into my private control
[16:15.120 --> 16:26.560]  and this seems to be exactly what Greg and Don on Agenda 21 are trying to achieve.
[16:26.560 --> 16:32.120]  All those folks with Agenda 21, when they bump up against the land patent, they can
[16:32.120 --> 16:33.120]  go scratch.
[16:33.120 --> 16:39.680]  Okay, listen, we're going to break, callers if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[16:39.680 --> 16:46.760]  Got about 45 minutes and then we're going to bring Pat on to talk about the land patent.
[16:46.760 --> 17:00.160]  We'll be right back.
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[21:09.560 --> 21:15.560]  Okay, we are back, sorry for the extended break there
[21:15.560 --> 21:17.560]  Working out a few technical issues on this end
[21:17.560 --> 21:22.560]  Okay, we are back and we have Russell from Texas
[21:22.560 --> 21:25.560]  Who wants to read something from the bottom of a land patent
[21:25.560 --> 21:30.560]  To show a point and also Eddie has some more stuff that he wants to say
[21:30.560 --> 21:32.560]  Eddie, did you want to go first or do you want to take Russell?
[21:32.560 --> 21:35.560]  Well, this may fit with Russell's, I don't know
[21:35.560 --> 21:37.560]  But we can find out real quick
[21:37.560 --> 21:40.560]  All I want to give you is these two definitions
[21:40.560 --> 21:44.560]  Possessory interest means an interest that exists
[21:44.560 --> 21:47.560]  As a result of possession or exclusive use
[21:47.560 --> 21:51.560]  Or a right to possession or exclusive use of a property
[21:51.560 --> 21:56.560]  And that is unaccompanied by ownership of a fee simple
[21:56.560 --> 21:59.560]  Or life estate in the property
[21:59.560 --> 22:02.560]  However, possessory interest does not include an interest
[22:02.560 --> 22:05.560]  Whether of limited or indeterminate duration
[22:05.560 --> 22:09.560]  That involves a right to exhaust a portion of the real property
[22:09.560 --> 22:12.560]  Now, fee simple is going to be very important here
[22:12.560 --> 22:16.560]  This possessory interest is basically like the certificate of title on a car
[22:16.560 --> 22:19.560]  You have all the appearance of ownership
[22:19.560 --> 22:21.560]  But none of the rights of ownership
[22:21.560 --> 22:24.560]  Now, let's go to see what fee simple is
[22:24.560 --> 22:27.560]  Typically, words fee simple, standing alone
[22:27.560 --> 22:30.560]  Create an absolute estate in devisee
[22:30.560 --> 22:34.560]  And such words followed by a condition or special limitation
[22:34.560 --> 22:36.560]  Create a defeasible fee
[22:36.560 --> 22:39.560]  Absolute, a fee simple absolute
[22:39.560 --> 22:44.560]  Is an estate limited absolutely to a person and his or her heirs
[22:44.560 --> 22:49.560]  And assigns forever without limitation or condition
[22:49.560 --> 22:55.560]  An absolute or fee simple estate is one in which the owner is entitled to the entire property
[22:55.560 --> 22:59.560]  With unconditional power of disposition during one's life
[22:59.560 --> 23:05.560]  And descending to one's heirs and legal representatives upon one's death in testate
[23:05.560 --> 23:11.560]  Such estate is unlimited as to duration, disposition, and descendability
[23:11.560 --> 23:17.560]  That's why you want a fee simple ownership of your property
[23:17.560 --> 23:21.560]  Okay, alright, let's see what Russell has to say
[23:21.560 --> 23:24.560]  Russell, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind? What do you have for us?
[23:24.560 --> 23:27.560]  I did this land patent thing back in 2000
[23:27.560 --> 23:30.560]  And I researched the land patent concerning my property
[23:30.560 --> 23:33.560]  And I have it here in front of me
[23:33.560 --> 23:40.560]  And I have filed it into the Hays County record back in 2000
[23:40.560 --> 23:43.560]  And I want to read what the bottom says
[23:43.560 --> 23:47.560]  It says hereby I relinquish to him the said person
[23:47.560 --> 23:50.560]  In other words, I can't read the man's name
[23:50.560 --> 23:58.560]  The said blank and his heirs or assigns forever all the right entitled in and to said land
[23:58.560 --> 24:03.560]  Heretofore held and possessed by the said state
[24:03.560 --> 24:07.560]  And I do hereby issue this letter patent for the same
[24:07.560 --> 24:12.560]  In testimony whereof I have caused the seal of the state to be affixed
[24:12.560 --> 24:15.560]  As well as the seal of the general land office
[24:15.560 --> 24:23.560]  Done at the city of Austin on the 21st day of September in the year of our Lord 1887
[24:23.560 --> 24:30.560]  And then it's signed by the commissioner of general land office and then the governor signs it and seals it too
[24:30.560 --> 24:38.560]  So apparently they relinquished the right entitled to the land when they did the land patent
[24:38.560 --> 24:44.560]  But yet when I did my deed, I did a deed and filed this land patent with it
[24:44.560 --> 24:49.560]  And it hasn't helped me on my property taxes whatsoever
[24:49.560 --> 24:52.560]  Well that's because we're dealing with a bunch of lawless thieves
[24:52.560 --> 24:56.560]  Have you tried to get your property taken off the tax roll?
[24:56.560 --> 25:00.560]  No, I mean not like the way you just described, no
[25:00.560 --> 25:02.560]  Okay
[25:02.560 --> 25:07.560]  But I thought the people should hear what one of these land patents say
[25:07.560 --> 25:12.560]  That basically relinquish an all right entitled to the property forever
[25:12.560 --> 25:19.560]  And if you call the land office for I think $15, it was $15
[25:19.560 --> 25:26.560]  By this gigantic map of the state of Texas and it shows every land patent ever given
[25:26.560 --> 25:30.560]  I mean it's about a five foot by five foot map
[25:30.560 --> 25:37.560]  And it'll show exactly the little outline of it and who it was granted to
[25:37.560 --> 25:42.560]  But if you call the land office, do not tell them anything about what you're trying to do with it
[25:42.560 --> 25:46.560]  Just tell them you're doing research because if you turn around and try to tell them
[25:46.560 --> 25:49.560]  You're trying to bring a land patent forward or something
[25:49.560 --> 25:53.560]  They're going to fight with you right then and there
[25:53.560 --> 25:58.560]  They'll do their dirt just not to give you this information
[25:58.560 --> 26:03.560]  Because I went through that whole routine back in 2000
[26:03.560 --> 26:07.560]  Well it would seem to me like if they're attempting to bar access to property
[26:07.560 --> 26:12.560]  Over which they have absolutely no rights considering the status of the land patent itself
[26:12.560 --> 26:19.560]  Then that would put us in a position to raise a cause of action against them
[26:19.560 --> 26:20.560]  I agree
[26:20.560 --> 26:26.560]  They're asserting an authority over a piece of property they have no respective title or interest in
[26:26.560 --> 26:29.560]  Therefore they have no control over the property
[26:29.560 --> 26:38.560]  Yet they're acting as if it's in their possession and control for all intents and purposes
[26:38.560 --> 26:43.560]  That's all I wanted to say
[26:43.560 --> 26:45.560]  Okay thanks Russell
[26:45.560 --> 26:46.560]  Okay
[26:46.560 --> 26:49.560]  Okay so it's my position
[26:49.560 --> 26:56.560]  If I have a standing right to a certain thing
[26:56.560 --> 27:04.560]  And a public official tries to shield me from enjoying the exercise of that right
[27:04.560 --> 27:08.560]  I'm going to kick him and his legal behind
[27:08.560 --> 27:10.560]  To him personally
[27:10.560 --> 27:17.560]  As far as I know no public official has authority to interfere with the right of a sovereign citizen
[27:17.560 --> 27:18.560]  No
[27:18.560 --> 27:32.560]  And you will find that nowhere in a Texas code that I've been able to locate is the term private property defined
[27:32.560 --> 27:36.560]  So that means that private property is not addressed by the code
[27:36.560 --> 27:38.560]  That's correct
[27:38.560 --> 27:44.560]  The private property for all intents and purposes is descriptor in nature
[27:44.560 --> 27:47.560]  But I haven't found anything where it gives the state
[27:47.560 --> 27:52.560]  When you look up a definition of private property means there's nothing
[27:52.560 --> 27:59.560]  Now they use the term private property quite a bit but they never give a definition for it
[27:59.560 --> 28:04.560]  It's never given in an includes either private property includes
[28:04.560 --> 28:08.560]  So they reference it but they don't ever define it
[28:08.560 --> 28:13.560]  The only thing they define is real property personal property
[28:13.560 --> 28:24.560]  And some of the case law that I have read in the past shows those terms are related to property possessed and used for the purpose of a commercial entity
[28:24.560 --> 28:28.560]  Like a corporation they own property they own personal property
[28:28.560 --> 28:33.560]  And they can be taxed on that real property and personal property
[28:33.560 --> 28:38.560]  But they cannot tax the property of the people they cannot do it
[28:38.560 --> 28:45.560]  Because then all they have to do to steal the people's property is to set the tax so high it cannot be paid
[28:45.560 --> 28:50.560]  Then they foreclose and take the land we never gave them that authority
[28:50.560 --> 28:58.560]  We would be ignorant beyond belief to assume to have given them that authority
[28:58.560 --> 29:05.560]  And with the tax rates that now exist it's close to that point
[29:05.560 --> 29:15.560]  I talked to my brother who lives in Chicago and his tax was double what my mortgage was
[29:15.560 --> 29:20.560]  Yeah a friend of mine I just talked to him about this issue today and he should be listening in right now
[29:20.560 --> 29:29.560]  They raised his land taxes three times as much as it was last year
[29:29.560 --> 29:31.560]  And for no apparent purpose whatsoever
[29:31.560 --> 29:33.560]  Incredible
[29:33.560 --> 29:36.560]  Okay well listen we're cutting the break right now
[29:36.560 --> 29:38.560]  Russell do you have anything else for us
[29:38.560 --> 29:39.560]  No that's it
[29:39.560 --> 29:41.560]  Okay thanks Russell
[29:41.560 --> 29:46.560]  Okay and we've got Gary from Texas on the line we'll take Gary's call when we get back on the other side
[29:46.560 --> 29:48.560]  This is the rule of law
[29:48.560 --> 29:51.560]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens
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[31:21.560 --> 31:24.560]  For Mr Bush
[31:24.560 --> 31:26.560]  The Sins of Race
[31:26.560 --> 31:29.560]  For Dictator
[31:29.560 --> 31:32.560]  Well I need a prosecutor to come and help me
[31:32.560 --> 31:34.560]  Prosecute them wicked leaders you see
[31:34.560 --> 31:36.560]  Them murderers are liars
[31:36.560 --> 31:37.560]  Them tell me
[31:37.560 --> 31:38.560]  Them are liars
[31:38.560 --> 31:39.560]  They tell sweet stories
[31:39.560 --> 31:41.560]  Me no believe me say what them tell me
[31:41.560 --> 31:44.560]  3% of America vote for Bush
[31:44.560 --> 31:47.560]  So how the hell he get the presidency?
[31:47.560 --> 31:49.560]  That's why me have a warrant for him
[31:49.560 --> 31:51.560]  Everybody listen carefully
[31:51.560 --> 31:53.560]  Listen to the words of the Three Shoes Passage
[31:53.560 --> 31:55.560]  Citizens of race
[31:55.560 --> 31:57.560]  For Mr Bush
[31:57.560 --> 31:59.560]  I'm a warrant
[31:59.560 --> 32:01.560]  For Dictator
[32:01.560 --> 32:03.560]  Citizens of race
[32:03.560 --> 32:05.560]  For Mr Bush
[32:05.560 --> 32:07.560]  I'm a warrant
[32:07.560 --> 32:09.560]  For Dictator
[32:09.560 --> 32:11.560]  Well we no forget Rumsfield
[32:11.560 --> 32:13.560]  Warrant for him
[32:13.560 --> 32:15.560]  All Dictators
[32:15.560 --> 32:17.560]  Warrant for him
[32:17.560 --> 32:19.560]  Warrant for him
[32:19.560 --> 32:21.560]  Fight about the citizens in the country
[32:21.560 --> 32:23.560]  Them getting so mad and them getting angry
[32:23.560 --> 32:25.560]  We have some warrant we need to solve
[32:25.560 --> 32:27.560]  Need a prosecutor to come and help me
[32:27.560 --> 32:29.560]  Prosecutor from any state will do
[32:29.560 --> 32:31.560]  Come over and let me show them too
[32:31.560 --> 32:33.560]  Hear them tell you
[32:33.560 --> 32:35.560]  When me tell you
[32:35.560 --> 32:37.560]  Three Shoes Passage speak the truth
[32:37.560 --> 32:39.560]  That is true
[32:39.560 --> 32:41.560]  Hey Silverstein you do
[32:41.560 --> 32:43.560]  You get the citizens arrest too
[32:43.560 --> 32:45.560]  Silverstein and Hamilton King
[32:45.560 --> 32:47.560]  You know them and them and them not clean
[32:47.560 --> 32:49.560]  Everybody bring them in
[32:49.560 --> 32:51.560]  So we could solve them with warranting
[32:51.560 --> 32:53.560]  Them no man need to quarantine
[32:53.560 --> 32:55.560]  You know them lie me say with them scream
[32:55.560 --> 32:57.560]  Citizens of race
[32:57.560 --> 32:59.560]  For Mr Bush
[32:59.560 --> 33:01.560]  Citizens of race
[33:01.560 --> 33:03.560]  For Dictator
[33:03.560 --> 33:05.560]  Citizens of race
[33:05.560 --> 33:07.560]  For Mr Bush
[33:07.560 --> 33:09.560]  Citizens of race
[33:09.560 --> 33:11.560]  For Dictator
[33:11.560 --> 33:13.560]  Citizens of race
[33:13.560 --> 33:15.560]  For Dictator
[33:15.560 --> 33:17.560]  All these guys in the three shoes suit
[33:17.560 --> 33:19.560]  All them a do them a tell lie to it
[33:19.560 --> 33:21.560]  In them three shoes suit
[33:21.560 --> 33:23.560]  And tie
[33:23.560 --> 33:25.560]  And them a walk and a tell no fly
[33:25.560 --> 33:27.560]  That's why we have to prosecute them
[33:27.560 --> 33:29.560]  And we have to let them know we not play
[33:29.560 --> 33:31.560]  Point the finger
[33:31.560 --> 33:33.560]  Do a feel away
[33:33.560 --> 33:35.560]  Tell the truth here in America me say
[33:35.560 --> 33:37.560]  Only 3% vote for Mr Bush
[33:37.560 --> 33:39.560]  How the hell the man become presidency
[33:39.560 --> 33:41.560]  But you know our
[33:41.560 --> 33:43.560]  Back
[33:43.560 --> 33:45.560]  Alright we're taking your calls
[33:45.560 --> 33:47.560]  We've got Gary from Texas
[33:47.560 --> 33:49.560]  Gary thanks for calling in what's on your mind tonight
[33:49.560 --> 33:51.560]  Hey thanks I just
[33:51.560 --> 33:53.560]  Want to talk a little bit about the land path
[33:53.560 --> 33:55.560]  If I could
[33:55.560 --> 33:57.560]  I'm going to tell you that I
[33:57.560 --> 33:59.560]  I'm getting really frustrated
[33:59.560 --> 34:01.560]  With the powers that be
[34:01.560 --> 34:03.560]  Back in 2005
[34:03.560 --> 34:05.560]  I filed documents
[34:05.560 --> 34:07.560]  Probably about 60 pages
[34:07.560 --> 34:09.560]  With the documents and county records
[34:09.560 --> 34:11.560]  And with the secretary of state
[34:11.560 --> 34:13.560]  And with the attorney general
[34:13.560 --> 34:15.560]  In which I went to the
[34:15.560 --> 34:17.560]  The
[34:17.560 --> 34:19.560]  General land office
[34:19.560 --> 34:21.560]  In Texas I obtained
[34:21.560 --> 34:23.560]  All of the original gubernatorial
[34:23.560 --> 34:25.560]  Land patents which were issued
[34:25.560 --> 34:27.560]  Lawfully by the republic
[34:27.560 --> 34:29.560]  Of Texas
[34:29.560 --> 34:31.560]  Legitimate governor
[34:31.560 --> 34:33.560]  At the time
[34:33.560 --> 34:35.560]  And I filed the proper
[34:35.560 --> 34:37.560]  Documentation to bring the patent
[34:37.560 --> 34:39.560]  Forward
[34:39.560 --> 34:41.560]  There are some
[34:41.560 --> 34:43.560]  Statements from these documents
[34:43.560 --> 34:45.560]  There's about 60 pages and I actually
[34:45.560 --> 34:47.560]  Cannot cover them all right now
[34:47.560 --> 34:49.560]  But some of the main ones are
[34:49.560 --> 34:51.560]  I'm going to read very simply
[34:51.560 --> 34:53.560]  The aforesaid parcel of land
[34:53.560 --> 34:55.560]  Being held simply and absolutely
[34:55.560 --> 34:57.560]  In nature at law
[34:57.560 --> 34:59.560]  And cannot be
[34:59.560 --> 35:01.560]  Subject to any disability
[35:01.560 --> 35:03.560]  In equity
[35:03.560 --> 35:05.560]  And is impervious to collateral
[35:05.560 --> 35:07.560]  Attachment by the city
[35:07.560 --> 35:09.560]  County, state, or federal
[35:09.560 --> 35:11.560]  Governments
[35:11.560 --> 35:13.560]  That is per NEIF versus US
[35:13.560 --> 35:15.560]  165
[35:15.560 --> 35:17.560]  Comma 263
[35:17.560 --> 35:19.560]  Comma 377
[35:19.560 --> 35:21.560]  91 CCA
[35:21.560 --> 35:23.560]  241
[35:23.560 --> 35:25.560]  The next one I'm going to read to you
[35:25.560 --> 35:27.560]  Briefly
[35:27.560 --> 35:29.560]  Stakes that the conveyance of this said
[35:29.560 --> 35:31.560]  Parcel of land is to be absolute
[35:31.560 --> 35:33.560]  And total and is
[35:33.560 --> 35:35.560]  To speak from the conveyance
[35:35.560 --> 35:37.560]  Of inequitable interest under
[35:37.560 --> 35:39.560]  Adulty
[35:39.560 --> 35:41.560]  That is according under
[35:41.560 --> 35:43.560]  1POW.MORT
[35:43.560 --> 35:45.560]  125
[35:45.560 --> 35:47.560]  Kaleili versus Sullivan
[35:47.560 --> 35:49.560]  CCA Hawaii
[35:49.560 --> 35:51.560]  242
[35:51.560 --> 35:53.560]  Following 446
[35:53.560 --> 35:55.560]  And also Gargarn versus
[35:55.560 --> 35:57.560]  Connors 153
[35:57.560 --> 35:59.560]  Northwest 68
[35:59.560 --> 36:01.560]  188 Michigan
[36:01.560 --> 36:03.560]  61
[36:03.560 --> 36:05.560]  This land patent essentially
[36:05.560 --> 36:07.560]  Is gone before the Supreme
[36:07.560 --> 36:09.560]  Court over 14 times
[36:09.560 --> 36:11.560]  It has always
[36:11.560 --> 36:13.560]  Stood the test
[36:13.560 --> 36:15.560]  It has never been defeated
[36:15.560 --> 36:17.560]  The Supreme Court will no longer
[36:17.560 --> 36:19.560]  Hear cases on the land patent
[36:19.560 --> 36:21.560]  Because it is indisputable
[36:21.560 --> 36:23.560]  My problem and my
[36:23.560 --> 36:25.560]  Issue is
[36:25.560 --> 36:27.560]  How do I
[36:27.560 --> 36:29.560]  Hit the heads
[36:29.560 --> 36:31.560]  In the county
[36:31.560 --> 36:33.560]  And in the state with a ball bat
[36:33.560 --> 36:35.560]  And get them off my rear
[36:35.560 --> 36:37.560]  Ends
[36:37.560 --> 36:39.560]  File suit
[36:39.560 --> 36:41.560]  For attempted
[36:41.560 --> 36:43.560]  Fraud and attempted extortion
[36:45.560 --> 36:47.560]  Because that's exactly what they're doing
[36:47.560 --> 36:49.560]  They know full well the patent is
[36:49.560 --> 36:51.560]  Irrevocable and cannot be placed
[36:51.560 --> 36:53.560]  In ad hoc taxation
[36:53.560 --> 36:55.560]  And they're
[36:55.560 --> 36:57.560]  Attempting to get you to pay money to them
[36:57.560 --> 36:59.560]  That's not owed and they're using
[36:59.560 --> 37:01.560]  Threat of force against you to do it
[37:01.560 --> 37:03.560]  Hey Gary, can I ask you something? Are you on a speaker phone?
[37:03.560 --> 37:05.560]  No ma'am
[37:05.560 --> 37:07.560]  I'm on my cell phone
[37:07.560 --> 37:09.560]  Okay, alright, alright, because it sounds kind of echoey
[37:09.560 --> 37:11.560]  We're just having a hard time hearing
[37:11.560 --> 37:13.560]  I'm sorry for that
[37:13.560 --> 37:15.560]  But that's what I'd suggest
[37:15.560 --> 37:17.560]  Is you file suit against them
[37:17.560 --> 37:19.560]  In their personal capacities
[37:19.560 --> 37:21.560]  For fraud and extortion
[37:21.560 --> 37:23.560]  Well, you know, Eddie, I've got
[37:23.560 --> 37:25.560]  A case right now that's been ongoing
[37:25.560 --> 37:27.560]  For I don't know how many years
[37:27.560 --> 37:29.560]  And I'm just going to say it because it's public
[37:29.560 --> 37:31.560]  And no, hell, they just
[37:31.560 --> 37:33.560]  Trespassed on my property
[37:33.560 --> 37:35.560]  The Edwards-Ockarfer Authority
[37:35.560 --> 37:37.560]  Which was created by the state
[37:37.560 --> 37:39.560]  In 1994
[37:39.560 --> 37:41.560]  They filed a permit
[37:41.560 --> 37:43.560]  Against my land
[37:43.560 --> 37:45.560]  In public records
[37:45.560 --> 37:47.560]  In the county of Medina
[37:47.560 --> 37:49.560]  With the acquiescence
[37:49.560 --> 37:51.560]  Of the county clerk who's
[37:51.560 --> 37:53.560]  Already on my hit list
[37:53.560 --> 37:55.560]  Legally speaking
[37:55.560 --> 37:57.560]  And they filed a permit
[37:57.560 --> 37:59.560]  And what it states is that
[37:59.560 --> 38:01.560]  The state of Texas
[38:01.560 --> 38:03.560]  Confers its rights
[38:03.560 --> 38:05.560]  To the use of water
[38:05.560 --> 38:07.560]  To me
[38:07.560 --> 38:09.560]  And I said, whoa, wait a minute
[38:09.560 --> 38:11.560]  The land
[38:11.560 --> 38:13.560]  The water
[38:13.560 --> 38:15.560]  The impertinences
[38:15.560 --> 38:17.560]  As far as the atmosphere reaches
[38:17.560 --> 38:19.560]  To the center of the earth
[38:19.560 --> 38:21.560]  Those are mine, baby
[38:21.560 --> 38:23.560]  That includes all the water, the minerals
[38:23.560 --> 38:25.560]  Everything else
[38:25.560 --> 38:27.560]  The state of Texas has no right
[38:27.560 --> 38:29.560]  To the water
[38:29.560 --> 38:31.560]  That is
[38:31.560 --> 38:33.560]  Has any effect on my
[38:33.560 --> 38:35.560]  Property that I filed for
[38:35.560 --> 38:37.560]  None
[38:37.560 --> 38:39.560]  Not to mention the fact that governments
[38:39.560 --> 38:41.560]  And hypothetical entities
[38:41.560 --> 38:43.560]  Commercial entities
[38:43.560 --> 38:45.560]  Don't have rights anyway
[38:45.560 --> 38:47.560]  Only human beings have rights
[38:47.560 --> 38:49.560]  Well, you see, this is what
[38:49.560 --> 38:51.560]  H.R. 197
[38:51.560 --> 38:53.560]  Back in 1933
[38:53.560 --> 38:55.560]  And remember, people, any law
[38:55.560 --> 38:57.560]  Repugnant to the Constitution is
[38:57.560 --> 38:59.560]  Without form and
[38:59.560 --> 39:01.560]  Boyed on its face
[39:01.560 --> 39:03.560]  Like H.R. said
[39:03.560 --> 39:05.560]  That all property is ceded in the state
[39:05.560 --> 39:07.560]  That's B.S.
[39:07.560 --> 39:09.560]  They had no authority to do that
[39:09.560 --> 39:11.560]  And, you know
[39:11.560 --> 39:13.560]  I'm telling you, through these taxing agencies
[39:13.560 --> 39:15.560]  These water authority
[39:15.560 --> 39:17.560]  Districts
[39:17.560 --> 39:19.560]  I had a guy
[39:19.560 --> 39:21.560]  Came on my property
[39:21.560 --> 39:23.560]  Without me here and just walked into a building
[39:23.560 --> 39:25.560]  Because he had a permit
[39:25.560 --> 39:27.560]  Which I've refuted in public records
[39:29.560 --> 39:31.560]  It is time
[39:31.560 --> 39:33.560]  I guess, you know, it is time for me
[39:33.560 --> 39:35.560]  To absolutely
[39:35.560 --> 39:37.560]  Lower the boom, go to court
[39:37.560 --> 39:39.560]  But the problem there is all the judges are in their pockets
[39:39.560 --> 39:41.560]  Well, you can file against the judges
[39:41.560 --> 39:43.560]  Too, Gary, but let me ask you a question
[39:43.560 --> 39:45.560]  On the stuff that you've got
[39:45.560 --> 39:47.560]  What have you
[39:47.560 --> 39:49.560]  Filed on them? What charges?
[39:49.560 --> 39:51.560]  At this point
[39:51.560 --> 39:53.560]  Eddie, I have not
[39:53.560 --> 39:55.560]  Filed anything
[39:55.560 --> 39:57.560]  I've simply been amassing a
[39:57.560 --> 39:59.560]  History
[39:59.560 --> 40:01.560]  Of paperwork
[40:01.560 --> 40:03.560]  In public record
[40:03.560 --> 40:05.560]  Right, did you get a copy of this permit
[40:05.560 --> 40:07.560]  Document that you said they filed?
[40:07.560 --> 40:09.560]  I did get a copy
[40:09.560 --> 40:11.560]  And I
[40:11.560 --> 40:13.560]  Reputed it
[40:13.560 --> 40:15.560]  For fraud
[40:15.560 --> 40:17.560]  I filed copies
[40:17.560 --> 40:19.560]  Stating why it was fraud in public record
[40:19.560 --> 40:21.560]  And I also posted it on the
[40:21.560 --> 40:23.560]  County bulletin board for 30 days
[40:23.560 --> 40:25.560]  Sent it in the form of affidavit
[40:25.560 --> 40:27.560]  Told them
[40:27.560 --> 40:29.560]  If there was anything that I had written
[40:29.560 --> 40:31.560]  That they found fault with
[40:31.560 --> 40:33.560]  Or they could provide any contrary
[40:33.560 --> 40:35.560]  Evidence in law
[40:35.560 --> 40:37.560]  Send it to me and I'll amend my ways
[40:37.560 --> 40:39.560]  I have not
[40:39.560 --> 40:41.560]  Had one response
[40:41.560 --> 40:43.560]  From these people
[40:43.560 --> 40:45.560]  Not anything
[40:45.560 --> 40:47.560]  Which means that
[40:47.560 --> 40:49.560]  Reputed affidavit is now established
[40:49.560 --> 40:51.560]  As truth
[40:51.560 --> 40:53.560]  That's correct
[40:53.560 --> 40:55.560]  That's correct
[40:55.560 --> 40:57.560]  Now when you do file on them
[40:57.560 --> 40:59.560]  Do not forget to add
[40:59.560 --> 41:01.560]  Falsification
[41:01.560 --> 41:03.560]  Tampering with a government document
[41:03.560 --> 41:05.560]  Falsifying a government document
[41:05.560 --> 41:07.560]  As well as the fraud
[41:07.560 --> 41:09.560]  Extortion
[41:09.560 --> 41:11.560]  And go after them for racketeering
[41:11.560 --> 41:13.560]  Especially if you believe that there's
[41:13.560 --> 41:15.560]  More than one agency involved
[41:15.560 --> 41:17.560]  And once you file it that way
[41:17.560 --> 41:19.560]  That opens them straight up
[41:19.560 --> 41:21.560]  For a RICO suit at the same time
[41:21.560 --> 41:23.560]  Well I will tell you Eddie
[41:23.560 --> 41:25.560]  That there is in Randy and Debbie
[41:25.560 --> 41:27.560]  I will tell you that
[41:27.560 --> 41:29.560]  In this public record so I'm not saying
[41:29.560 --> 41:31.560]  Anything that anybody can't go down
[41:31.560 --> 41:33.560]  And research
[41:33.560 --> 41:35.560]  I've got valid claims against them
[41:35.560 --> 41:37.560]  For over $270,000
[41:37.560 --> 41:39.560]  Payable
[41:39.560 --> 41:41.560]  In USPC
[41:41.560 --> 41:43.560]  You want to figure it out now
[41:43.560 --> 41:45.560]  At $1,090 an ounce
[41:45.560 --> 41:47.560]  Go figure that out
[41:47.560 --> 41:49.560]  Yeah
[41:49.560 --> 41:51.560]  Well I'd go after them my friend
[41:51.560 --> 41:53.560]  Big time
[41:53.560 --> 41:55.560]  Yeah
[41:55.560 --> 41:57.560]  Well it's kind of beyond my learning curve
[41:57.560 --> 41:59.560]  Right now so I'm kind of praying
[41:59.560 --> 42:01.560]  That some knowledgeable individual
[42:01.560 --> 42:03.560]  Will contact me and
[42:03.560 --> 42:05.560]  Be willing to help me do the paperwork
[42:05.560 --> 42:07.560]  Well
[42:07.560 --> 42:09.560]  It's time
[42:09.560 --> 42:11.560]  It is time to
[42:11.560 --> 42:13.560]  Slap these people in the face
[42:13.560 --> 42:15.560]  Where the stuff that's been happening
[42:15.560 --> 42:17.560]  In the news lately
[42:17.560 --> 42:19.560]  And the acceleration
[42:19.560 --> 42:21.560]  Of the erosion of
[42:21.560 --> 42:23.560]  Rights over the last year
[42:23.560 --> 42:25.560]  So I'm absolutely
[42:25.560 --> 42:27.560]  No terrified
[42:27.560 --> 42:29.560]  At all
[42:29.560 --> 42:31.560]  Well Gary you have jurisdictionary right?
[42:31.560 --> 42:33.560]  I do
[42:33.560 --> 42:35.560]  You have the basics already
[42:35.560 --> 42:37.560]  Of how to file a lawsuit and
[42:37.560 --> 42:39.560]  How to deal with the court procedures
[42:39.560 --> 42:41.560]  And all that sort of thing so now you just
[42:41.560 --> 42:43.560]  Have to find your causes of action
[42:43.560 --> 42:45.560]  And criminal charges as well
[42:45.560 --> 42:47.560]  If you want to file the criminal route
[42:47.560 --> 42:49.560]  Yeah
[42:49.560 --> 42:51.560]  But I'm going to be nailing this process down
[42:51.560 --> 42:53.560]  Really because
[42:53.560 --> 42:55.560]  The whole thing about getting the court
[42:55.560 --> 42:57.560]  Order declaring your property
[42:57.560 --> 42:59.560]  Private property because then
[42:59.560 --> 43:01.560]  Once you get that order the appraisal district
[43:01.560 --> 43:03.560]  Doesn't have a choice they're going to have to take you off
[43:03.560 --> 43:05.560]  The tax roll so you don't so I like
[43:05.560 --> 43:07.560]  That I like this process that
[43:07.560 --> 43:09.560]  This gentleman was explaining to me because
[43:09.560 --> 43:11.560]  You don't have to argue
[43:11.560 --> 43:13.560]  You don't have to fight with the appraisal district at all
[43:13.560 --> 43:15.560]  You know you just
[43:15.560 --> 43:17.560]  You know if you try it with the land patent
[43:17.560 --> 43:19.560]  And present the evidence to them
[43:19.560 --> 43:21.560]  And tell them to take you off the tax
[43:21.560 --> 43:23.560]  Roll if they don't do it then go get your court
[43:23.560 --> 43:25.560]  Order and then the whole thing's
[43:25.560 --> 43:27.560]  Done with and apparently he has
[43:27.560 --> 43:29.560]  Great success doing this in many
[43:29.560 --> 43:31.560]  States not just
[43:31.560 --> 43:33.560]  New York and Texas
[43:33.560 --> 43:35.560]  I will be listening with
[43:35.560 --> 43:37.560]  I will be I'm with I'm
[43:37.560 --> 43:39.560]  On bated breath right now I'm waiting for him to call me
[43:39.560 --> 43:41.560]  Back okay listen
[43:41.560 --> 43:43.560]  Oh thank you Gary
[43:43.560 --> 43:45.560]  Okay we've got Becky from Georgia
[43:45.560 --> 43:47.560]  Who will be coming up next
[43:47.560 --> 43:49.560]  And then
[43:49.560 --> 43:51.560]  We'll be having Pat come on
[43:51.560 --> 43:53.560]  On the second hour
[43:53.560 --> 43:59.560]  We'll be right back
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[45:25.560 --> 45:29.560]  Be careful what I'm wishing for
[45:29.560 --> 45:31.560]  When I'm hungry I like to know
[45:31.560 --> 45:33.560]  Just what I'm fishing for
[45:33.560 --> 45:36.560]  I ain't asking for much I ain't
[45:36.560 --> 45:40.560]  Trying to be no glutton
[45:40.560 --> 45:42.560]  I'm just here making my living
[45:42.560 --> 45:45.560]  Pushing buttons
[45:45.560 --> 45:48.560]  I give my message out to anyone
[45:48.560 --> 45:51.560]  In shouting distance
[45:51.560 --> 45:54.560]  Vote for bravery and against slavery
[45:54.560 --> 45:57.560]  My favorite show is resistance
[45:57.560 --> 46:00.560]  First I'm crawling then I'm walking
[46:00.560 --> 46:02.560]  Then I start strutting
[46:02.560 --> 46:05.560]  I'm just so glad to make my living
[46:05.560 --> 46:20.560]  Pushing buttons
[46:20.560 --> 46:22.560]  We sat down to play monopoly
[46:22.560 --> 46:24.560]  Wanted to win the game
[46:24.560 --> 46:27.560]  We gave some guy and this money supply
[46:27.560 --> 46:30.560]  We must have not been thinking with brains
[46:30.560 --> 46:33.560]  After some time the worth of my dime
[46:33.560 --> 46:35.560]  Got me down to dinner nothing
[46:35.560 --> 46:37.560]  I might have been doing alright still
[46:37.560 --> 46:41.560]  I make my living pushing buttons
[46:41.560 --> 46:55.560]  Yeah
[46:55.560 --> 46:58.560]  We're making our living pushing buttons
[46:58.560 --> 47:01.560]  Running the radio network running the shows
[47:01.560 --> 47:03.560]  Pushing the buttons on the computer
[47:03.560 --> 47:08.560]  Keypad keyboard typing up legal documents
[47:08.560 --> 47:10.560]  We're sticking it to the man by pushing
[47:10.560 --> 47:13.560]  Buttons I love it sitting right here in
[47:13.560 --> 47:15.560]  Our own studios at our own desks putting
[47:15.560 --> 47:17.560]  Pushing the buttons making it happen
[47:17.560 --> 47:19.560]  Spreading the word of freedom we're
[47:19.560 --> 47:22.560]  Taking our country back okay so we're
[47:22.560 --> 47:25.560]  Going now to Becky in Georgia Becky
[47:25.560 --> 47:27.560]  Thanks for calling in what's on your mind
[47:27.560 --> 47:33.560]  Tonight can you speak up some Becky yes
[47:33.560 --> 47:36.560]  Okay that's a little better yeah thanks
[47:36.560 --> 47:39.560]  Okay I had a legal question I put it on
[47:39.560 --> 47:42.560]  Craig's list and they told me to call
[47:42.560 --> 47:46.560]  Y'all my husband had a stroke in December
[47:46.560 --> 47:50.560]  Last year we had to file for his
[47:50.560 --> 47:53.560]  Disability we got denied the first time
[47:53.560 --> 47:57.560]  We obtained the lawyer in June after he
[47:57.560 --> 48:00.560]  Was denied the first time the lawyer sent
[48:00.560 --> 48:03.560]  Us a letter in July saying that his caseload
[48:03.560 --> 48:06.560]  Was too full so he was dropping my husband
[48:06.560 --> 48:10.560]  That he would do nothing else on his case
[48:10.560 --> 48:14.560]  Okay well he finally got approved in
[48:14.560 --> 48:17.560]  September Social Security went ahead and
[48:17.560 --> 48:20.560]  Sent 25% of my husband's back pay to this
[48:20.560 --> 48:23.560]  Lawyer now the lawyers saying that we owe
[48:23.560 --> 48:26.560]  Him $153 for medical records and it was
[48:26.560 --> 48:28.560]  It was because of everything that he'd
[48:28.560 --> 48:31.560]  Done is the reason my husband won the
[48:31.560 --> 48:35.560]  Case which is not true and he won't send
[48:35.560 --> 48:40.560]  Us the remaining money and it is wrong
[48:40.560 --> 48:42.560]  I need to find out if there's anything
[48:42.560 --> 48:46.560]  That I can do oh yeah there's something
[48:46.560 --> 48:49.560]  You can do file a bar grievance against
[48:49.560 --> 48:52.560]  Him okay you know I told him I was going
[48:52.560 --> 48:54.560]  To contact the bar and told me if I did
[48:54.560 --> 48:58.560]  That he'd sue me oh then file two bar
[48:58.560 --> 49:01.560]  Agreements against oh man for threatening
[49:01.560 --> 49:03.560]  Good Lord one for what he did and one for
[49:03.560 --> 49:05.560]  Threatening you to sue you if you file
[49:05.560 --> 49:08.560]  Agreements with the bar here's the deal
[49:08.560 --> 49:12.560]  When you file a grievance with the bar it
[49:12.560 --> 49:17.560]  Becomes secret and all you do is notify
[49:17.560 --> 49:21.560]  The bar that you have reason to believe
[49:21.560 --> 49:25.560]  That the attorney has acted improperly
[49:25.560 --> 49:28.560]  You don't do anything to the attorney and
[49:28.560 --> 49:31.560]  Your filing is secret so nobody knows
[49:31.560 --> 49:35.560]  About it so you haven't harmed him by
[49:35.560 --> 49:40.560]  Slander or liable and if the bar decides
[49:40.560 --> 49:43.560]  To do something that's between him and
[49:43.560 --> 49:46.560]  The bar he has no grounds to sue you his
[49:46.560 --> 49:50.560]  Suit was frivolous and it was intended to
[49:50.560 --> 49:54.560]  Prevent you from notifying the bar of his
[49:54.560 --> 49:56.560]  Improper practices yeah that's just
[49:56.560 --> 49:58.560]  Intimidation he would he would have it
[49:58.560 --> 50:00.560]  Would be a frivolous lawsuit on its face
[50:00.560 --> 50:04.560]  And he knows is it and he knows it he
[50:04.560 --> 50:06.560]  Knows that that lawsuit would never get
[50:06.560 --> 50:08.560]  Anywhere that was intimidation sheer
[50:08.560 --> 50:11.560]  Intimidation tactics I just recently told
[50:11.560 --> 50:13.560]  An attorney that was appointed to
[50:13.560 --> 50:16.560]  Represent me when the Department of Public
[50:16.560 --> 50:20.560]  Safety smashed my face into a wall I told
[50:20.560 --> 50:23.560]  Him that if he failed to adjudicate even
[50:23.560 --> 50:26.560]  One of my due process rights I'd file a
[50:26.560 --> 50:29.560]  Bar agreements against him but see he had
[50:29.560 --> 50:31.560]  Already talked to me if he knew I was
[50:31.560 --> 50:33.560]  More knowledgeable about due process than
[50:33.560 --> 50:38.560]  He was and he never said anything about
[50:38.560 --> 50:43.560]  Suing me he absolutely knew better
[50:43.560 --> 50:45.560]  Because I would have landed right square
[50:45.560 --> 50:48.560]  In the middle of him immediately I
[50:48.560 --> 50:51.560]  Suggest you file a bar grievance against
[50:51.560 --> 50:55.560]  Him for his malpractice and a bar
[50:55.560 --> 50:57.560]  Grievance against him for threatening
[50:57.560 --> 50:59.560]  You could even sue him for malpractice
[50:59.560 --> 51:01.560]  There's a specific cause of action
[51:01.560 --> 51:04.560]  Absolutely but initially you file a
[51:04.560 --> 51:06.560]  Couple of bar grievances against him
[51:06.560 --> 51:09.560]  You're gonna the reason he threatened
[51:09.560 --> 51:12.560]  You is because you scared the bejesus
[51:12.560 --> 51:17.560]  Out of him hey Randy yes let me hit her
[51:17.560 --> 51:20.560]  With chapter 82 government code now you
[51:20.560 --> 51:22.560]  Are in Texas correct ma'am no sir
[51:22.560 --> 51:26.560]  Georgia no in Georgia okay here in
[51:26.560 --> 51:28.560]  Texas we've got the government code
[51:28.560 --> 51:30.560]  Which will probably also house the
[51:30.560 --> 51:32.560]  Information for the attorneys there in
[51:32.560 --> 51:34.560]  Georgia section 82 of our government
[51:34.560 --> 51:37.560]  Code deals strictly with the attorney
[51:37.560 --> 51:40.560]  His licensing and everything there's an
[51:40.560 --> 51:42.560]  Area in here called retention of
[51:42.560 --> 51:46.560]  Clients money basically unless the
[51:46.560 --> 51:49.560]  Attorney appears in court on your behalf
[51:49.560 --> 51:51.560]  You can get your money back from that
[51:51.560 --> 51:54.560]  Attorney and all you have to do is file
[51:54.560 --> 51:56.560]  A petition with the court complaining
[51:56.560 --> 51:58.560]  That the attorney has done something
[51:58.560 --> 52:01.560]  Wrong or not done what he's represented
[52:01.560 --> 52:04.560]  To you that he's done I would look and
[52:04.560 --> 52:06.560]  See if there is something similar to
[52:06.560 --> 52:10.560]  That in the codes there in Georgia but
[52:10.560 --> 52:13.560]  And even the state bar association there
[52:13.560 --> 52:15.560]  In Georgia should be able to tell you
[52:15.560 --> 52:19.560]  Where to find that but definitely go and
[52:19.560 --> 52:22.560]  File the bar grievance and I would even
[52:22.560 --> 52:24.560]  File on top of the bar grievance a
[52:24.560 --> 52:29.560]  Judicial complaint yes let me explain
[52:29.560 --> 52:33.560]  The power of a bar grievance okay if you
[52:33.560 --> 52:35.560]  File a bar grievance against your
[52:35.560 --> 52:38.560]  Attorney the state bar will get that
[52:38.560 --> 52:41.560]  Grievance and they will throw it in the
[52:41.560 --> 52:44.560]  Trash and they'll send you this form
[52:44.560 --> 52:46.560]  Letter that says your complaint does not
[52:46.560 --> 52:49.560]  Rise to the level of misconduct and you
[52:49.560 --> 52:51.560]  Will feel all frustrated and dejected
[52:51.560 --> 52:53.560]  And feel like filing a bar grievance is
[52:53.560 --> 52:56.560]  A waste of time and that's why they do
[52:56.560 --> 52:58.560]  That so you'll think it's a waste of
[52:58.560 --> 53:01.560]  Time but I assure you it is not a waste
[53:01.560 --> 53:05.560]  Of time their problem is is they have to
[53:05.560 --> 53:08.560]  Carry malpractice insurance and they're
[53:08.560 --> 53:11.560]  Only about nine carriers in the United
[53:11.560 --> 53:15.560]  States now have similar requirements if
[53:15.560 --> 53:18.560]  You get one bar grievance first year of
[53:18.560 --> 53:20.560]  Practice they cancel your malpractice
[53:20.560 --> 53:24.560]  Insurance immediately two bar grievances
[53:24.560 --> 53:27.560]  Any one year of practice if you've been
[53:27.560 --> 53:29.560]  Practicing 30 years you get two bar
[53:29.560 --> 53:31.560]  Grievances they cancel your malpractice
[53:31.560 --> 53:34.560]  Insurance three bar grievances they'll
[53:34.560 --> 53:36.560]  Cancel your law firms malpractice
[53:36.560 --> 53:38.560]  Insurance now they don't care what the
[53:38.560 --> 53:41.560]  Malpractice what the bar grievance is
[53:41.560 --> 53:45.560]  About the reason they don't is they know
[53:45.560 --> 53:48.560]  That if you file a valid bar grievance
[53:48.560 --> 53:50.560]  The bar is going to throw in the trash
[53:50.560 --> 53:51.560]  Yes so they don't even care if it's a
[53:51.560 --> 53:53.560]  Valid grievance or not they don't care
[53:53.560 --> 53:55.560]  What the bar says about it because the
[53:55.560 --> 53:57.560]  Bar always rejects all of them so the
[53:57.560 --> 54:00.560]  Insurance carriers just have to assume
[54:00.560 --> 54:03.560]  That it's valid that's the only way they
[54:03.560 --> 54:06.560]  Can they can judge their risk their
[54:06.560 --> 54:10.560]  Level of risk precisely it was the
[54:10.560 --> 54:13.560]  Attorneys that that got the legislation
[54:13.560 --> 54:18.560]  Passed that made them secret so the
[54:18.560 --> 54:21.560]  Insurance agency can't look at the
[54:21.560 --> 54:23.560]  Grievance and say well you know he
[54:23.560 --> 54:26.560]  Accused the bar the attorney of partners
[54:26.560 --> 54:28.560]  Hire on the left well that's bogus we
[54:28.560 --> 54:30.560]  Won't count that one well they can't do
[54:30.560 --> 54:33.560]  That because they're all secret well in
[54:33.560 --> 54:35.560]  That case just CC a copy to all nine
[54:35.560 --> 54:37.560]  Agencies well you don't have to they
[54:37.560 --> 54:40.560]  Have to notify them themselves so they
[54:40.560 --> 54:42.560]  Can only they can't go by how valid or
[54:42.560 --> 54:44.560]  They are not because the bar throws them
[54:44.560 --> 54:46.560]  All out so they can only go by the
[54:46.560 --> 54:48.560]  Numbers if the insurance company catches
[54:48.560 --> 54:50.560]  Wind that there's been a bar grievance
[54:50.560 --> 54:52.560]  Filed and the attorney didn't notify the
[54:52.560 --> 54:54.560]  Insurance company then automatically
[54:54.560 --> 54:57.560]  They get dropped yeah automatically the
[54:57.560 --> 55:00.560]  Attorney has to notify them because he's
[55:00.560 --> 55:02.560]  Paying a premium and if he gets a
[55:02.560 --> 55:04.560]  Grievance and doesn't notify them and
[55:04.560 --> 55:07.560]  Then gets sued and they find out about
[55:07.560 --> 55:09.560]  The grievance he's not covered that's
[55:09.560 --> 55:11.560]  Right so he'd be paying the premium
[55:11.560 --> 55:13.560]  Premium for nothing that's right so it's
[55:13.560 --> 55:16.560]  To the attorneys are gonna let them know
[55:16.560 --> 55:18.560]  Because if they don't then they don't get
[55:18.560 --> 55:20.560]  Covered just like Randy says yeah I
[55:20.560 --> 55:24.560]  Have I assure you bar grievances are
[55:24.560 --> 55:26.560]  Their weak underbellies you're gonna hurt
[55:26.560 --> 55:28.560]  Them more than you know even though the
[55:28.560 --> 55:31.560]  Bar is going to pretend to ignore it
[55:31.560 --> 55:33.560]  They're not going to say anything to you
[55:33.560 --> 55:35.560]  About it if I file a bar grievance
[55:35.560 --> 55:37.560]  Against an attorney and he mentions it to
[55:37.560 --> 55:41.560]  Me I file a bar grievance of that because
[55:41.560 --> 55:43.560]  It's secret they're the ones that
[55:43.560 --> 55:47.560]  Wanted it secret they're a problem so
[55:47.560 --> 55:49.560]  They tried to hide all of these from
[55:49.560 --> 55:52.560]  Everybody and created a horrible
[55:52.560 --> 55:56.560]  Situation for themselves but I suggest
[55:56.560 --> 55:58.560]  You file bar grievances quick you file
[55:58.560 --> 56:01.560]  Them early and never mention it to your
[56:01.560 --> 56:03.560]  Attorney never threaten him with a bar
[56:03.560 --> 56:05.560]  Grievance if he does something you don't
[56:05.560 --> 56:09.560]  Like just file it I just got a question
[56:09.560 --> 56:13.560]  From call screener Steve skidmore from
[56:13.560 --> 56:15.560]  Inless fraud detection he's helping out
[56:15.560 --> 56:17.560]  Screening the calls for us tonight he
[56:17.560 --> 56:20.560]  Wants to know how you find out who the
[56:20.560 --> 56:23.560]  Malpractice insurance carrier is if you
[56:23.560 --> 56:26.560]  Need to and should you send a copy of the
[56:26.560 --> 56:28.560]  Grievance to the malpractice insurance
[56:28.560 --> 56:31.560]  Company or is that necessary not
[56:31.560 --> 56:33.560]  Necessary I didn't think it was but can
[56:33.560 --> 56:35.560]  You find is there a way to find out who
[56:35.560 --> 56:37.560]  Their insurance carrier is can you make a
[56:37.560 --> 56:39.560]  Direct claim with the insurance carrier
[56:39.560 --> 56:42.560]  Or is that just to cover lawsuits all I
[56:42.560 --> 56:45.560]  Would suspect you could that's private
[56:45.560 --> 56:49.560]  Information between the attorney and his
[56:49.560 --> 56:51.560]  And the person he's contracted with
[56:51.560 --> 56:54.560]  Unless you have a malpractice suit in
[56:54.560 --> 56:57.560]  Which case you can request that in
[56:57.560 --> 57:00.560]  Discovery well but now he is contracted
[57:00.560 --> 57:02.560]  With them he's saying that he's
[57:02.560 --> 57:04.560]  Responsible for getting them the money
[57:04.560 --> 57:07.560]  They got which they know is a lie and
[57:07.560 --> 57:09.560]  They were operating with this attorney
[57:09.560 --> 57:11.560]  To begin with so they have access to
[57:11.560 --> 57:15.560]  That information as a client well the
[57:15.560 --> 57:18.560]  Client is not directly implicated in the
[57:18.560 --> 57:21.560]  Contract for insurance yeah but neither
[57:21.560 --> 57:23.560]  Somebody in an automobile accident
[57:23.560 --> 57:25.560]  Either but they can still file against
[57:25.560 --> 57:27.560]  Your insurance for the harm you caused
[57:27.560 --> 57:29.560]  But wait a minute how about how about
[57:29.560 --> 57:33.560]  This money all lawyers are considered
[57:33.560 --> 57:36.560]  Public servants and so can you get that
[57:36.560 --> 57:38.560]  Information through open records that
[57:38.560 --> 57:41.560]  That's a good question I don't I'm not
[57:41.560 --> 57:44.560]  Sure no they're not all considered
[57:44.560 --> 57:46.560]  Public servants though they are members
[57:46.560 --> 57:48.560]  Of the judicial branch they are not all
[57:48.560 --> 57:50.560]  Considered public servants if they're in
[57:50.560 --> 57:52.560]  Private practice now they have a public
[57:52.560 --> 57:55.560]  Obligation when they're dealing with a
[57:55.560 --> 57:57.560]  Client but they're not public officials
[57:57.560 --> 58:00.560]  But oh wait well I want Randy to talk
[58:00.560 --> 58:01.560]  About this some on the other side
[58:01.560 --> 58:04.560]  Because we were looking up something to
[58:04.560 --> 58:06.560]  Do with the bar and the fact that the
[58:06.560 --> 58:09.560]  Bar is regulated by the state then
[58:09.560 --> 58:12.560]  Somehow that ties them in to public
[58:12.560 --> 58:15.560]  Servanthood of a sort well the bars
[58:15.560 --> 58:17.560]  Private but when we cover that on the
[58:17.560 --> 58:19.560]  Other side Deborah I want Randy's had a
[58:19.560 --> 58:21.560]  Heads up on chapter 82 I'd like to go
[58:21.560 --> 58:24.560]  Into that a little okay sure we have we
[58:24.560 --> 58:27.560]  Have Terry and Dan guys just hang on the
[58:27.560 --> 58:31.560]  Line so that Randy can finish up this
[58:31.560 --> 58:33.560]  Topic and so that Randy and Eddie can go
[58:33.560 --> 58:36.560]  Into this chapter 82 thing okay Becky
[58:36.560 --> 58:39.560]  Thank you for calling in all right thank
[58:39.560 --> 58:41.560]  Y'all very much okay thank you all right
[58:41.560 --> 58:43.560]  Terry Dan hang on the line we'll be
[58:43.560 --> 59:11.560]  Right back on the other side
[59:11.560 --> 59:33.560]  music
[59:33.560 --> 01:00:03.080]  This news brief brought to you by the International
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[01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:10.200]  Afghan villagers in Helmand province say at least nine civilians, three of them children,
[01:00:10.200 --> 01:00:13.320]  were killed Wednesday by NATO rockets.
[01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:17.760]  Protesters from the village marched bodies in tow, chanting death to the governor and
[01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:21.000]  down with the government and the United States.
[01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:25.680]  Former Afghan presidential challenger Abdullah Abdullah said Wednesday the decision to keep
[01:00:25.680 --> 01:00:31.320]  Karzai in office had no basis in law, saying, a government which comes to power without
[01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:36.840]  the people's support cannot fight terrorism, unemployment, poverty and hundreds of other
[01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:37.840]  problems.
[01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:44.200]  A Taliban Pakistan spokesman said Wednesday his group is making a series of tactical retreats
[01:00:44.200 --> 01:00:49.560]  inside South Waziristan and is attempting to avoid large-scale engagements until the
[01:00:49.560 --> 01:00:59.640]  first heavy snowfall of the year, likely in the next few weeks, effectively ends fighting.
[01:00:59.640 --> 01:01:04.840]  More than three-quarters of the nation's 17 to 24-year-olds couldn't serve in the military
[01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:06.240]  even if they wanted to.
[01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:13.320]  They are too fat, too sickly, too dumb, have too many kids or have copped to using illegal
[01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:14.320]  drugs.
[01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:20.080]  Kurt Gilroy, the Pentagon's director of accession, says kids are just not able to do push-ups,
[01:01:20.080 --> 01:01:23.120]  they can't do pull-ups and they can't run.
[01:01:23.120 --> 01:01:30.520]  Twenty-three percent of 18 to 34-year-olds are now obese, up from six percent in 1987.
[01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:36.360]  The group of potential enlistees is further slimmed by the propensity to serve among American
[01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:40.840]  youths, which social scientists say is also declining.
[01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:45.720]  According to Gilroy, research shows only 12 percent of military eligible youth show an
[01:01:45.720 --> 01:01:48.240]  interest in military service.
[01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:52.240]  Thanks to the economy, the military has just had a big recruiting year.
[01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:57.200]  But as the economy improves and the war in Afghanistan drags on, it's going to be tough
[01:01:57.200 --> 01:02:05.880]  to rely on such a tiny sliver of American youth to maintain an all-volunteer force.
[01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:10.920]  The Patriot Act, rushed into law during the anthrax attacks, gave the government broad
[01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:15.040]  surveillance powers to spy on innocent citizens.
[01:02:15.040 --> 01:02:20.180]  But the act also stipulated that three of its more controversial provisions should expire
[01:02:20.180 --> 01:02:23.800]  next month unless re-approved by lawmakers.
[01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:28.160]  And it appears re-approval may be about to happen, with a green light from the Obama
[01:02:28.160 --> 01:02:34.120]  administration and over strong objections from human rights and civil liberties groups.
[01:02:34.120 --> 01:02:39.800]  Last week, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed the USA Patriot Act Extension Act.
[01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:45.720]  The bill makes only minor changes to the original act and was further watered down by amendments
[01:02:45.720 --> 01:02:48.680]  adopted during the committee's deliberations.
[01:02:48.680 --> 01:02:54.560]  The ACLU said, the Senate Judiciary Committee failed to rein in a bill that has become a
[01:02:54.560 --> 01:03:22.600]  symbol of out-of-control government invasions of your privacy.
[01:03:22.600 --> 01:03:32.920]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty I read his book and it says he cares not for
[01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:45.360]  the unsightly These warmongers come by that term rightly
[01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:52.360]  I won't pay for the war with my body Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money
[01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:58.760]  I won't pay for the fun with my body Their plans wicked and their logic shoddy
[01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:05.520]  Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body I won't pay for the boys with my money
[01:04:05.520 --> 01:04:13.120]  Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body The whole agenda smells funny
[01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:26.000]  I wanna fight in a war of my own Okay, we're gonna fight in a war of our own.
[01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.000]  We're starting the war this time.
[01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.240]  Okay, we've got a whole lot going on on the show right now.
[01:04:30.240 --> 01:04:34.000]  We've got callers waiting in the wings, Terry and Dan.
[01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.200]  We also have Pat, who has called in.
[01:04:36.200 --> 01:04:40.840]  He's our guest to start the nine o'clock hour with us, the nine o'clock central time hour.
[01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:42.680]  Pat, just hold one second.
[01:04:42.680 --> 01:04:49.680]  Terry and Dan, I'm going to ask you guys to call back in or if you want to wait, you can,
[01:04:49.680 --> 01:04:53.560]  but we really need to blaze through what we got to do here.
[01:04:53.560 --> 01:05:02.360]  I want Randy to address the quasi-public servanthood of attorneys since the bar is regulated by
[01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:09.720]  the state that any agency that's regulated by the state somehow brings its members into
[01:05:09.720 --> 01:05:15.160]  a quasi-public servanthood even though the bar is a private entity, a private group,
[01:05:15.160 --> 01:05:16.840]  it's still regulated by the state.
[01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:22.480]  So there's some tentacles of the state in there that affect lawyers.
[01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.920]  We may be able to find information about them through public open records and such.
[01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:31.200]  I want Randy to address that quickly and then those guys want to talk about chapter 82 and
[01:05:31.200 --> 01:05:32.960]  then we're going to bring Pat up.
[01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:37.520]  So Randy, go ahead, address this quasi-public servanthood of attorneys.
[01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:45.160]  That's an interesting issue because normally if a company or anyone like the electric company
[01:05:45.160 --> 01:05:53.240]  or a gas company that is highly regulated by the state, they fall under color of law.
[01:05:53.240 --> 01:06:03.820]  But attorneys who are clearly designated as officers of the court have carved out this
[01:06:03.820 --> 01:06:10.240]  special place for themselves that on the one hand, they get to be officers of the court
[01:06:10.240 --> 01:06:14.920]  and on the other hand, they get to be separate.
[01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:21.000]  So you have to understand that it is primarily attorneys that make the laws and it's hard
[01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:27.600]  to expect an attorney to pass a law that will make its life a living hell.
[01:06:27.600 --> 01:06:33.920]  So he's going to tend to promote and pass laws that serve himself as an attorney and
[01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:35.980]  fellow attorneys.
[01:06:35.980 --> 01:06:44.560]  So requesting information from an attorney, I couldn't just go out and arbitrarily ask
[01:06:44.560 --> 01:06:53.360]  an attorney for his insurance carrier unless I had engaged in a contract with the attorney
[01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:55.800]  and was harmed.
[01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:58.680]  Then I could request his carrier.
[01:06:58.680 --> 01:07:02.760]  So to answer Deborah's question, can you just request his carrier?
[01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:10.600]  I don't think so unless you do so under you can request it, but he didn't have to get
[01:07:10.600 --> 01:07:11.600]  it.
[01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:15.240]  Yeah, but Randy, in that case, it's kind of similar to people getting in a traffic accident
[01:07:15.240 --> 01:07:20.800]  and then they ask each other for their driver's licenses and insurance cards and on and on
[01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.120]  and the insurance companies and phone numbers and addresses and things like that.
[01:07:24.120 --> 01:07:28.640]  Unfortunately, two sovereign human beings do not have the right to that information
[01:07:28.640 --> 01:07:32.480]  from each other unless there's a situation like this where there was harm.
[01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.140]  So I kind of see that as the same thing.
[01:07:34.140 --> 01:07:40.440]  But what the question I had was I wanted you to address what you had addressed a few months
[01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:46.400]  ago concerning the fact that the bar is even though it's a private organization, it's still
[01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:52.240]  regulated by the state, which somehow brings attorneys into a quasi public servant hood.
[01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:54.320]  I wanted you to address that.
[01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:55.320]  Yes.
[01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:59.000]  Attorneys are designated as officers of the court.
[01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:07.840]  So that clearly brings them in that public servant umbrella.
[01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:13.840]  But being attorneys, they've carved themselves out special immunities.
[01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:19.760]  And they've pretty well made themselves immune from most everything except the most incredibly
[01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.420]  outrageous stuff.
[01:08:22.420 --> 01:08:30.280]  So it's and it's not something that I can speak to definitively because I really don't
[01:08:30.280 --> 01:08:36.640]  know the precise limits of what you can ask an attorney for and what you can't.
[01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:40.360]  Well for sure, they are not immune to malpractice lawsuits.
[01:08:40.360 --> 01:08:45.960]  And we've gone over the O'Connor's causes of action of malpractice on the part of attorneys.
[01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:53.000]  And I'll tell you what, the most ridiculous things that you could possibly come up with
[01:08:53.000 --> 01:09:00.120]  that some people would even consider frivolous are definitive causes of action of malpractice
[01:09:00.120 --> 01:09:03.200]  of attorney malpractice in O'Connor's.
[01:09:03.200 --> 01:09:07.040]  You can sue lawyers for malpractice for just about anything you could possibly come up
[01:09:07.040 --> 01:09:08.040]  with.
[01:09:08.040 --> 01:09:10.100]  And it's already been an adjudicated cause of action.
[01:09:10.100 --> 01:09:13.000]  So that's really where their weak underbelly is.
[01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:14.300]  Precisely.
[01:09:14.300 --> 01:09:19.300]  No one who's an attorney read this book I have on malpractice.
[01:09:19.300 --> 01:09:21.120]  You'd never want to become an attorney.
[01:09:21.120 --> 01:09:25.760]  If you read if you if you read all the causes of action of attorney malpractice, you wouldn't
[01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:26.760]  want to be an attorney.
[01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:31.080]  You can hardly blink sideways without being sued for malpractice as an attorney as a legitimate
[01:09:31.080 --> 01:09:32.840]  cause of action.
[01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:38.080]  That was the beauty of what I found in this chapter 82 to give to Randy.
[01:09:38.080 --> 01:09:39.840]  He and I talked about it.
[01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:45.360]  Randy was just all over himself with the information chapter 82's got in it.
[01:09:45.360 --> 01:09:48.000]  It's really funny.
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:54.320]  For instance, in chapter 82, 82.011 written complaints, you can actually file a complaint
[01:09:54.320 --> 01:09:59.280]  against an attorney with the board of law examiners and they're required by law to keep
[01:09:59.280 --> 01:10:02.520]  you notified as to the status of the complaint.
[01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:08.940]  Now that's one good thing in our favor, but after this it goes downhill fast.
[01:10:08.940 --> 01:10:16.240]  You can go to 82.023 government code and it covers declaration of intention to study law
[01:10:16.240 --> 01:10:23.360]  and subsection E F and G specifically say that if a lawyer has a chemical dependency,
[01:10:23.360 --> 01:10:24.360]  that's okay.
[01:10:24.360 --> 01:10:27.600]  You still can't prohibit him from taking the bar exam.
[01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.240]  You got to let him do it.
[01:10:30.240 --> 01:10:40.720]  And then the other place is in 82.028 moral character and fitness of applicant.
[01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:46.520]  An attorney cannot be denied a license even if he is found to be morally deficient.
[01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:48.520]  Well, good.
[01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:49.520]  It's a good thing for them.
[01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:52.520]  They put that in there because they're pretty much all morally deficient.
[01:10:52.520 --> 01:11:00.140]  Yes, they are now 82.030 board assessment of moral character and fitness.
[01:11:00.140 --> 01:11:06.680]  This again says in very plain language that a lawyer on drugs is okay and must be allowed
[01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:08.640]  to take the bar exam.
[01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:12.880]  And you listen to some of the things these guys argue in court or try to twist and turn
[01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:14.920]  to suit the ends of their case.
[01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:19.080]  You would honestly swear they're already on drugs.
[01:11:19.080 --> 01:11:26.720]  Now you go to 82.038 probationary license for applicants suffering from chemical dependency.
[01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:32.640]  This basically means that the lawyer can be on drugs, an alcoholic, and they will get
[01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:39.600]  special treatment by the board to help them find somebody to alleviate their problem.
[01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:44.720]  But you still cannot prevent them from obtaining a license and practicing law.
[01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:46.520]  Oh boy.
[01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:51.160]  Now the 82.063 retention of client's money.
[01:11:51.160 --> 01:11:56.400]  This while it can help in some cases, this section here is pretty much a license to steal
[01:11:56.400 --> 01:11:58.720]  for an attorney.
[01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:03.680]  Basically this section says that unless the attorney, the only time you can petition to
[01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:07.520]  get your money back from the attorney, if he's collected money from you or refuses to
[01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:14.360]  pay it back, is if the attorney has not already made a court appearance in your behalf.
[01:12:14.360 --> 01:12:17.680]  Or if he hasn't done certain other things in your behalf.
[01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:20.680]  If he hasn't, then you can file a petition to get this.
[01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:22.760]  You can't ask the lawyer back for the money.
[01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:26.680]  You have to file a petition with the court demanding they order the lawyer to return
[01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:28.240]  your money.
[01:12:28.240 --> 01:12:34.440]  Otherwise, if he's done any type of work that he can justify on your behalf, no matter how
[01:12:34.440 --> 01:12:40.200]  little, how ignorant, how out of the way and unrelated to your cause it may be, he can
[01:12:40.200 --> 01:12:45.200]  keep your money and there's nothing you can do according to that section.
[01:12:45.200 --> 01:12:50.240]  So that section pretty much grants them a license to steal, which far too many of them
[01:12:50.240 --> 01:12:54.840]  take advantage of anyway.
[01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:59.200]  So I'll reiterate for all our kind listeners, nothing wrong with a lawyer that a tall tree
[01:12:59.200 --> 01:13:01.480]  and a short rope won't fix.
[01:13:01.480 --> 01:13:07.640]  Yes, and a few well-placed bar grievances.
[01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:13.560]  Because then that gets into the attorney's pocket because it sends his malpractice insurance
[01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:15.360]  through the roof.
[01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:26.320]  We're in Texas, I think a bar grievance ought to be ample application of a crowbar.
[01:13:26.320 --> 01:13:29.000]  This is cowboy justice in a kangaroo court.
[01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:33.320]  Okay, listen, we got about three minutes before we go to break.
[01:13:33.320 --> 01:13:35.280]  Maybe we could quickly take Terry from Michigan.
[01:13:35.280 --> 01:13:38.680]  He came to our seminar and he was the one that called in.
[01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:40.560]  He got pulled over on the way up there.
[01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:41.560]  Mr. DPS man.
[01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:43.280]  Yes, and then we'll go to Pat.
[01:13:43.280 --> 01:13:47.520]  Terry, thanks for calling in, we'll give you the rest of the segments, so what's going
[01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:48.520]  on?
[01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:50.760]  Yeah, thanks for taking my call.
[01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:56.440]  I just wanted to say, I was listening to your commercial for jurisdictionary and it reminded
[01:13:56.440 --> 01:14:02.600]  me, I had listened to it probably three times, four times, and it wasn't making that much
[01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:04.480]  sense at first.
[01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:13.880]  But I've got a case going, it's an easement case, and it went into court and we lost,
[01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:21.480]  and then it went into the appellate court and we lost, and I listened to the jurisdictionary
[01:14:21.480 --> 01:14:26.200]  again, and I found all kinds of stuff that the lawyer screwed up on.
[01:14:26.200 --> 01:14:27.560]  Aha, see?
[01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:34.440]  Yeah, and now I've got a third attorney that I hired to go work on it, and I started telling
[01:14:34.440 --> 01:14:38.840]  him, you've got to do this, you've got to do that, you've got to do this, and he just
[01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:44.880]  stopped and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, how do you know all this stuff?
[01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:51.720]  I said, hey, I just do, and he was just amazed, he said, you know, I hadn't even thought of
[01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:52.720]  half that stuff.
[01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:56.760]  I said, well, this is what we're going to do, and he says, okay, good idea, that's what
[01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:57.760]  we're going to do.
[01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:00.760]  Good for you, Terry, take control.
[01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:07.920]  Yeah, and it felt good, it really did, because before that, I was just sitting there, my
[01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:12.000]  head was just in the clouds, and I'm like, oh man, I don't understand any of this stuff,
[01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.880]  why isn't anything happening?
[01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:21.000]  And then once I started learning, it was just all of a sudden, it was a brand new day, everything
[01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.680]  was there, and I understood it.
[01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:30.160]  Yeah, that's why Frederick Graves, that's why this jurisdictionary course is so beneficial,
[01:15:30.160 --> 01:15:34.480]  because it helps people, you know what you need to do, if you're going to go pro se,
[01:15:34.480 --> 01:15:38.800]  and if you have an attorney, then you know what you need to tell your attorney to do.
[01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:45.560]  Yeah, because before, I sat there and he was, you know, I just was in the dark, and there
[01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:50.120]  were things I kept wanting him to do, and kept asking him, and he's like, oh, no, no,
[01:15:50.120 --> 01:15:56.600]  we got it, we got it, we got it, but now, next time I go in, I'm going to be insisting.
[01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:01.320]  Well, if you can show Terry that he didn't do the things he was supposed to do, there's
[01:16:01.320 --> 01:16:02.600]  your malpractice suit.
[01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:04.880]  Yep, there's your cause of action right there.
[01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:08.920]  Yeah, I'm going to consider that.
[01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:16.800]  When Pat comes on, could you ask him, when he's talking about the land patents, I think
[01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.280]  he said he was from Texas last night.
[01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:20.280]  Yes.
[01:16:20.280 --> 01:16:27.160]  With that website that he was talking about out of Arizona there, would they have information
[01:16:27.160 --> 01:16:35.240]  about other states like Michigan or, you know, other people listening, how to go about doing
[01:16:35.240 --> 01:16:36.680]  it in our own state?
[01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:40.180]  All right, is there, I'll bring him up right now, Pat, is there information about other
[01:16:40.180 --> 01:16:41.720]  states other than Arizona?
[01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:43.480]  Oh, yes.
[01:16:43.480 --> 01:16:48.360]  The basic principles are the same for everybody, just Texas is slightly different.
[01:16:48.360 --> 01:16:49.360]  Okay, great.
[01:16:49.360 --> 01:16:50.360]  Well, we're going to break.
[01:16:50.360 --> 01:16:52.440]  We'll talk more about that on the other side.
[01:16:52.440 --> 01:16:55.280]  All right, Terry, thanks for calling in.
[01:16:55.280 --> 01:16:56.280]  Thank you.
[01:16:56.280 --> 01:16:57.280]  Okay.
[01:16:57.280 --> 01:16:58.280]  We'll be right back with Pat.
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[01:18:39.500 --> 01:19:02.220]  Okay, we are back, the rule of law, ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:19:02.220 --> 01:19:04.340]  We're celebrating our one-year anniversary.
[01:19:04.340 --> 01:19:05.340]  It was Wednesday.
[01:19:05.340 --> 01:19:10.460]  I hadn't even had a chance to make a big deal about it yet.
[01:19:10.460 --> 01:19:15.620]  We would have had a party or something, but we were so swamped with getting ready for
[01:19:15.620 --> 01:19:16.620]  the seminar.
[01:19:16.620 --> 01:19:22.780]  But yes, as of November 4th, this past Wednesday, Rule of Law Radio Network has been on the
[01:19:22.780 --> 01:19:30.780]  air for exactly one year, and I've produced approximately 440 shows on the network.
[01:19:30.780 --> 01:19:36.200]  So we're coming up on our 500th show of the network pretty soon, and we've been going
[01:19:36.200 --> 01:19:37.540]  strong for one year.
[01:19:37.540 --> 01:19:38.780]  We've been growing.
[01:19:38.780 --> 01:19:42.500]  We're about to add a whole bunch of new shows.
[01:19:42.500 --> 01:19:45.300]  Just want to make these announcements real quick.
[01:19:45.300 --> 01:19:49.780]  Kathryn Bleich and John Bush are going to be starting a morning show, Monday, Wednesday,
[01:19:49.780 --> 01:19:50.780]  and Friday mornings.
[01:19:50.780 --> 01:19:54.240]  They may be going five days a week, but we're going to start Monday, Wednesday, Fridays
[01:19:54.240 --> 01:20:00.780]  for now from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m., Rise Up Radio is the name of their show.
[01:20:00.780 --> 01:20:03.480]  They'll be starting that the first week of December.
[01:20:03.480 --> 01:20:07.540]  They're both going off to the Continental Congress right now, so they will be out of
[01:20:07.540 --> 01:20:08.940]  pocket for the next few weeks.
[01:20:08.940 --> 01:20:12.020]  They'll be calling in, reporting on the Continental Congress.
[01:20:12.020 --> 01:20:16.780]  And since John Bush is moving to the mornings, he's dropping the Austin Liberty Beach show
[01:20:16.780 --> 01:20:20.140]  because this is going to be too much to go five days a week if they decide to go five
[01:20:20.140 --> 01:20:22.180]  days a week, plus a Wednesday night show.
[01:20:22.180 --> 01:20:29.820]  So Richard Reeves, longtime broadcaster here in Austin, longtime broadcaster on radio and
[01:20:29.820 --> 01:20:31.420]  television, cable access.
[01:20:31.420 --> 01:20:32.940]  He's got his own show.
[01:20:32.940 --> 01:20:40.340]  He is going to be taking the reins of the Wednesday night slot, six to eight.
[01:20:40.340 --> 01:20:45.760]  I believe the name of his show is going to be Outside the Box Politics.
[01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:46.760]  Don't quote me on that, though.
[01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:50.780]  I got to find out for sure from him, but he is going to be doing a show from six to eight
[01:20:50.780 --> 01:20:58.020]  covering local and national issues and how we can get around black box voting, how we're
[01:20:58.020 --> 01:21:03.940]  going to get around the black box voting issue by taking over the political parties, taking
[01:21:03.940 --> 01:21:08.380]  over all of them, infiltrating and taking over the Democratic Party, the Republican
[01:21:08.380 --> 01:21:09.380]  Party.
[01:21:09.380 --> 01:21:13.740]  We already are the Libertarian Party, but just how we can get around black box voting
[01:21:13.740 --> 01:21:18.580]  by taking over the political parties before the primaries even start.
[01:21:18.580 --> 01:21:23.300]  And so that way it's not even going to matter about black box voting anymore, because if
[01:21:23.300 --> 01:21:28.560]  all our candidates are on the ballot as Democrats and Republicans, it's not going to matter
[01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.140]  which one gets picked.
[01:21:30.140 --> 01:21:32.140]  So he's going to be talking more about that.
[01:21:32.140 --> 01:21:33.280]  That's going to be Wednesday night.
[01:21:33.280 --> 01:21:35.660]  He's starting his show this Wednesday.
[01:21:35.660 --> 01:21:43.660]  And also Lisa Marie Copoletta and her husband Daniel are going to be starting a show six
[01:21:43.660 --> 01:21:51.060]  PM to eight PM every Sunday night before Gary Johnson's show, which of course has been going
[01:21:51.060 --> 01:21:53.820]  strong eight to 10 on Sunday nights.
[01:21:53.820 --> 01:21:55.040]  This is all central time.
[01:21:55.040 --> 01:22:00.200]  So we're adding more shows and we want to thank you listeners for your support because
[01:22:00.200 --> 01:22:04.080]  that's what helps us grow and we are going to continue to grow.
[01:22:04.080 --> 01:22:09.820]  So with those announcements being made on celebration of one year birthday, we are now
[01:22:09.820 --> 01:22:13.520]  going to our guest Pat in Texas.
[01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:15.980]  We're a few minutes late, about a one segment late getting him up.
[01:22:15.980 --> 01:22:18.260]  So Pat, thanks for joining us tonight.
[01:22:18.260 --> 01:22:23.860]  And if you could please just finish addressing the issue that Terry just recently, that Terry
[01:22:23.860 --> 01:22:28.500]  brought up on the other side of the break, asking about if team law does that address
[01:22:28.500 --> 01:22:30.660]  issues of land patents in other states?
[01:22:30.660 --> 01:22:32.560]  And you were talking about how Texas is slightly different.
[01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:37.260]  So if you could go into that and the other material you wanted to present.
[01:22:37.260 --> 01:22:41.740]  Well, all the states with the exception of Texas, when they became states, turned over
[01:22:41.740 --> 01:22:48.220]  the public land to the federal government and then they dispensed them.
[01:22:48.220 --> 01:22:51.940]  They sold them or turned them into parks, whatever.
[01:22:51.940 --> 01:22:59.420]  All of the lands that they sold were sold through the Bureau of Land Management, BLM.
[01:22:59.420 --> 01:23:04.320]  And that later has been turned into the general land office.
[01:23:04.320 --> 01:23:11.580]  They maintain copies of all the patents, in other words the sales documents, where they
[01:23:11.580 --> 01:23:17.700]  transferred ownership, true ownership, and true title to the land that was sold to the
[01:23:17.700 --> 01:23:20.140]  individual.
[01:23:20.140 --> 01:23:24.860]  The only state that didn't do that was Texas, that's why I said Texas is slightly different.
[01:23:24.860 --> 01:23:32.660]  Texas maintained the ownership of all the lands, public lands, and then all of the patents
[01:23:32.660 --> 01:23:38.140]  were maintained in the patent office, or the land patent office, at the general land office
[01:23:38.140 --> 01:23:47.620]  in Austin, or the procedures of doing what we're talking about are the same for both.
[01:23:47.620 --> 01:23:56.980]  The exact location of the record will be the only thing that's really different.
[01:23:56.980 --> 01:24:03.300]  When you're looking to do a land patent, what you're trying to do is ascertain exactly which
[01:24:03.300 --> 01:24:04.660]  piece of land you have.
[01:24:04.660 --> 01:24:13.220]  That's going to be very key to getting the exact patent because all land in the state
[01:24:13.220 --> 01:24:19.500]  of Texas that has been sold by the state has been patented.
[01:24:19.500 --> 01:24:28.140]  Not all land that has been sold in the rest of the state was patented, and there's reasons
[01:24:28.140 --> 01:24:36.300]  for that, and it's too complicated to go into on a short program.
[01:24:36.300 --> 01:24:42.760]  If you have a piece of property that was never patented, you can get a brand new patent,
[01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:48.620]  but just be advised that you're going to be going under the new land law as pursuant to
[01:24:48.620 --> 01:24:57.140]  that particular parcel of land in that particular state as it is written right now.
[01:24:57.140 --> 01:25:02.740]  That gets you into agenda 21, which I'll skip in discussing right now.
[01:25:02.740 --> 01:25:09.820]  Pat, listen, don't worry too much about time because we go until midnight here unless you
[01:25:09.820 --> 01:25:10.820]  need to go.
[01:25:10.820 --> 01:25:11.820]  Oh, no, no.
[01:25:11.820 --> 01:25:12.820]  I forgot.
[01:25:12.820 --> 01:25:15.820]  I thought we were killing it at 10.
[01:25:15.820 --> 01:25:16.820]  No, no, no.
[01:25:16.820 --> 01:25:17.820]  Friday night.
[01:25:17.820 --> 01:25:18.820]  We've got plenty of time.
[01:25:18.820 --> 01:25:19.820]  Yeah.
[01:25:19.820 --> 01:25:20.820]  Friday nights we go to midnight.
[01:25:20.820 --> 01:25:23.740]  That's why we asked you on for a Friday night so we'd have plenty of time to discuss this.
[01:25:23.740 --> 01:25:26.100]  Just go into whatever you feel is necessary.
[01:25:26.100 --> 01:25:28.660]  New land law, let me just touch on this real quick.
[01:25:28.660 --> 01:25:38.940]  The new land law that is in effect has been adopted in all 50 states and was actually
[01:25:38.940 --> 01:25:46.580]  put into effect first by the federal government is identical, almost word for word transcription
[01:25:46.580 --> 01:25:56.580]  from agenda 21 UN document in dealing with natural resources including water on any private
[01:25:56.580 --> 01:25:58.580]  land.
[01:25:58.580 --> 01:26:06.580]  It says that private land does not have private mineral rights or water rights.
[01:26:06.580 --> 01:26:12.940]  This is a major change from all the previous land laws in all the states and in the federal
[01:26:12.940 --> 01:26:18.020]  government prior to the UN coming out with that.
[01:26:18.020 --> 01:26:22.420]  If you want to get a new land patent, just be advised that's what you're looking at.
[01:26:22.420 --> 01:26:33.100]  You're going to get the surface and the surface is down to 300 feet and it used to, like my
[01:26:33.100 --> 01:26:39.500]  piece of property, it was patented in 1935 under previous land laws because of when it
[01:26:39.500 --> 01:26:41.540]  was originally sold.
[01:26:41.540 --> 01:26:47.500]  It has all the minerals, it has all the water, it has all the transitory waters, in other
[01:26:47.500 --> 01:26:55.020]  words rainfall, runoff and other waters that may come across its surface and subsurface
[01:26:55.020 --> 01:27:01.180]  and all the air to the edge of space.
[01:27:01.180 --> 01:27:07.260]  That also includes all the animals that are on the surface and subsurface and in the air
[01:27:07.260 --> 01:27:09.180]  above it.
[01:27:09.180 --> 01:27:18.540]  I know this sounds strange, but as land law changed over time, it was rewritten, sometimes
[01:27:18.540 --> 01:27:29.020]  things were taken out like some of the transitory animals, sometimes transitory water rights.
[01:27:29.020 --> 01:27:34.900]  When you do do your research and you get your land patent, it will tell you which land law
[01:27:34.900 --> 01:27:45.380]  it was written pursuant to, go get a copy of that particular land law, download it,
[01:27:45.380 --> 01:27:51.220]  buy a copy of the book, whatever you got to do to get it in hard copy and I'd get two
[01:27:51.220 --> 01:27:58.780]  copies of it because one of them is not going to be enough, I guarantee you, because it
[01:27:58.780 --> 01:28:12.420]  will address such issues as easement, land taxes and what happens when somebody dams
[01:28:12.420 --> 01:28:22.100]  up a river somewhere or a stream or breaks a dam or on a river or a stream or sucks an
[01:28:22.100 --> 01:28:29.420]  aquifer dry or slant drills under your property, but they wouldn't do things like that.
[01:28:29.420 --> 01:28:39.140]  I know that's too obscured of occurred, right?
[01:28:39.140 --> 01:28:45.780]  The state of Texas in all the land laws has maintained a minimum of a three percent mineral
[01:28:45.780 --> 01:28:56.660]  right ownership of very particular minerals, normally the oil, the coal, some gas in some
[01:28:56.660 --> 01:29:03.500]  locations and all sulfur-bearing minerals.
[01:29:03.500 --> 01:29:12.580]  That used to be because of gunpowder and stuff, so when you get your land patent, please get
[01:29:12.580 --> 01:29:13.580]  a copy of that law.
[01:29:13.580 --> 01:29:19.260]  You're going to need it to understand what your rights are, what your responsibilities
[01:29:19.260 --> 01:29:30.420]  are as a land owner and when you do get your land patent brought forward, you have to go
[01:29:30.420 --> 01:29:37.540]  to the voter registration office and remove your name from the voter roll because you're
[01:29:37.540 --> 01:29:44.980]  no longer a voter, you're an elector, major difference and I hear the music, but I'll
[01:29:44.980 --> 01:29:47.980]  shut up.
[01:29:47.980 --> 01:29:55.940]  Okay, we will be back with more from Pat on land patents when we get back on the other
[01:29:55.940 --> 01:30:00.140]  side.
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[01:31:22.500 --> 01:31:36.500]  The wicked come with temptation They're trying to buy the whole place
[01:31:36.500 --> 01:31:47.500]  They want to force the nation Because they've fallen from grace
[01:31:47.500 --> 01:31:55.500]  I will not drink from that cup I just can't act that way
[01:32:18.500 --> 01:32:26.500]  He just told me on the break, folks, he's hanging on with one arm and with the other hand, he's got a cell phone in his hand.
[01:32:26.500 --> 01:32:31.500]  So we all are going to great lengths here to get you guys out this wonderful information.
[01:32:31.500 --> 01:32:35.500]  So please continue, Pat. I hope your arm doesn't go numb hanging on there.
[01:32:35.500 --> 01:32:40.500]  It went numb about an hour ago.
[01:32:40.500 --> 01:32:47.500]  Last night, the main topic was property taxes, and that's where the whole drift was coming from.
[01:32:47.500 --> 01:32:54.500]  I want to say this. Just getting your land patent will not get you out of property taxes.
[01:32:54.500 --> 01:33:11.500]  Property taxes is a fraud or fraudulent contract because of a lot of side issues that Randy and Eddie, they're probably more up on than I am.
[01:33:11.500 --> 01:33:20.500]  I've been real lucky in dealing with my local tax people because a lot of the ranchers out here have their land patent
[01:33:20.500 --> 01:33:25.500]  because the land has been in the same family since this was a republic.
[01:33:25.500 --> 01:33:28.500]  And I'm not talking about the U.S.
[01:33:28.500 --> 01:33:37.500]  And they're a little ornery when it comes to paying for the right of owning their own property and using it the way they want to.
[01:33:37.500 --> 01:33:43.500]  All the land patent does, and I'm going to reiterate this a couple of times through this evening,
[01:33:43.500 --> 01:33:54.500]  the land patent is a declaration of true ownership, true title to the property.
[01:33:54.500 --> 01:34:05.500]  A deed is a commercial piece of property that bankers love to have because they can do whatever they want to with it, and so can attorneys.
[01:34:05.500 --> 01:34:11.500]  But a deed is color of ownership. It is not true ownership.
[01:34:11.500 --> 01:34:21.500]  If you want to get a good feel for this, go to the G.L.O. website, the Texas G.L.O., the General Land Office website.
[01:34:21.500 --> 01:34:30.500]  You can Google it or you can do an x-quick search on it and go to Sovereign Land Sales.
[01:34:30.500 --> 01:34:32.500]  So they still do it.
[01:34:32.500 --> 01:34:41.500]  In Texas, the state still sells school land under sovereign title.
[01:34:41.500 --> 01:34:46.500]  And the phone number that's listed is actually for the state surveyor,
[01:34:46.500 --> 01:34:51.500]  but he'll transfer you over to the state patent clerk who's an attorney.
[01:34:51.500 --> 01:35:01.500]  And the only attorney I know that actually admits to being a land patent attorney works for the state.
[01:35:01.500 --> 01:35:11.500]  And he was not real conversant with me when I spent three hours on the phone with him about bringing a patent forward.
[01:35:11.500 --> 01:35:18.500]  What I was looking for after having done a lot of research and talking to a lot of people all over the United States
[01:35:18.500 --> 01:35:26.500]  and listening to a lot of information put out by very well-meaning people,
[01:35:26.500 --> 01:35:35.500]  I found that one, the federal government and Texas transferred land originally on patents.
[01:35:35.500 --> 01:35:42.500]  When that land was sold by the individuals, they sold the patent normally.
[01:35:42.500 --> 01:35:45.500]  And that patent then had to be brought forward.
[01:35:45.500 --> 01:35:54.500]  Or when it was inherited by their heirs or transferred to an assignee, that's where you get the sale,
[01:35:54.500 --> 01:35:59.500]  then there was a transfer of that patent.
[01:35:59.500 --> 01:36:02.500]  It was brought forward in the other person's name.
[01:36:02.500 --> 01:36:10.500]  I wanted to know what was the old procedure before 1950 for bringing that forward.
[01:36:10.500 --> 01:36:12.500]  And there was a lot of books out there.
[01:36:12.500 --> 01:36:22.500]  Unfortunately, most of them were out of print, and trying to find something online has not been very beneficial.
[01:36:22.500 --> 01:36:25.500]  So I started going to the source.
[01:36:25.500 --> 01:36:29.500]  You go right to the GLO and you ask them what was the procedure.
[01:36:29.500 --> 01:36:40.500]  You go to the archivist and you ask them to look at old copies of other patents and how they were brought forward.
[01:36:40.500 --> 01:36:51.500]  The people over in the archives are a great deal more informative and more helpful than anybody else that I have talked to.
[01:36:51.500 --> 01:36:57.500]  One, they have copies of the original document, and two, they know exactly what you're talking about
[01:36:57.500 --> 01:37:03.500]  and love it when somebody asks them for their opinion or for their information.
[01:37:03.500 --> 01:37:07.500]  They're like librarians, only better.
[01:37:07.500 --> 01:37:12.500]  They actually have the real stuff.
[01:37:12.500 --> 01:37:16.500]  What you do to get your patents, that's always the question.
[01:37:16.500 --> 01:37:18.500]  Well, everybody has a deed.
[01:37:18.500 --> 01:37:22.500]  The deed has a property description.
[01:37:22.500 --> 01:37:35.500]  If you're in a subdivision in a township, you normally have it by street, new subdivision block number and this kind of stuff,
[01:37:35.500 --> 01:37:47.500]  but it refers you back to a section and block of a major survey that you can find if you go to your county clerk's office.
[01:37:47.500 --> 01:38:02.500]  Normally they have all the major surveys on paper file in their archives in the county records division.
[01:38:02.500 --> 01:38:05.500]  You can go there, take your deed with you.
[01:38:05.500 --> 01:38:10.500]  Somebody will help you find the appropriate block and section that you want,
[01:38:10.500 --> 01:38:20.500]  and they will actually show you on the major survey, and the surveys are laid out in sections, square miles, 640 acres,
[01:38:20.500 --> 01:38:44.500]  and they show it may be section A2 of block 72 of survey like mine is Galveston and Houston and San Antonio Rail Company survey of 1856, I believe it was.
[01:38:44.500 --> 01:38:53.500]  Now, unfortunately the surveyor that did that was riding on a drunken mule and he was probably sharing that same rye whiskey with the surveyor.
[01:38:53.500 --> 01:39:03.500]  So in 1890 they redid the survey and reset some of the PIN and have a new survey from 1890.
[01:39:03.500 --> 01:39:05.500]  You can get a copy of that.
[01:39:05.500 --> 01:39:13.500]  It doesn't cost you, but, well, depending upon which office you're in and what the county fees are,
[01:39:13.500 --> 01:39:24.500]  get a copy of your block and section of that survey and the description of the survey note for that block and section,
[01:39:24.500 --> 01:39:30.500]  and it should probably run you about $8 a certified copy for that one particular little thing,
[01:39:30.500 --> 01:39:35.500]  and that will be a legal sized piece of paper normally.
[01:39:35.500 --> 01:39:37.500]  Get two copies of it.
[01:39:37.500 --> 01:39:43.500]  Get two copies of everything you're going to get and you're going to need them.
[01:39:43.500 --> 01:39:51.500]  Now, you take that and you go to the archive section in Texas to Austin,
[01:39:51.500 --> 01:40:00.500]  and that is three blocks north of the Capitol building in the general land office building on Congress Avenue.
[01:40:00.500 --> 01:40:03.500]  On the first floor, go in the front door, go to the left, and there it is.
[01:40:03.500 --> 01:40:05.500]  You can't miss it.
[01:40:05.500 --> 01:40:16.500]  The state constitution and the constitution of the republic are both on display there in an Argonne-Gasfield case,
[01:40:16.500 --> 01:40:21.500]  and if you want to spend an hour or two reading it, it's there.
[01:40:21.500 --> 01:40:33.500]  They won't let you touch it, but what you're going to want to do is give the archivist your block and section of your survey
[01:40:33.500 --> 01:40:41.500]  and ask them for the patent for that particular block and survey.
[01:40:41.500 --> 01:40:53.500]  They'll call it up and they'll bring it out to you, and you'll sit down and you can make notes and stuff on a separate piece of paper,
[01:40:53.500 --> 01:41:01.500]  and they'll have the original sales deed, the original receipt when it was paid for,
[01:41:01.500 --> 01:41:05.500]  and if it had ever gone into foreclosure for nonpayment,
[01:41:05.500 --> 01:41:13.500]  which happened a number of times because of the change in land laws, changing the mineral rights that were transferred with the patent,
[01:41:13.500 --> 01:41:22.500]  a lot of times people would buy something, then not pay for it, let it go into foreclosure, and then rebuy it
[01:41:22.500 --> 01:41:30.500]  because the state changed the land law while they were originally buying the property,
[01:41:30.500 --> 01:41:37.500]  and they wanted the mineral rights or more mineral rights, or they wanted the additional water rights,
[01:41:37.500 --> 01:41:46.500]  so that's why that occurred, and you may see the same person that bought the same piece of property four or five times
[01:41:46.500 --> 01:41:55.500]  and let it go into foreclosure, but get a copy, and you can request it, of the original sales deed,
[01:41:55.500 --> 01:42:02.500]  two copies, get two copies of the patent, and it depends on when the patent was issued,
[01:42:02.500 --> 01:42:08.500]  whether it will be in full color or just in black ink on parchment,
[01:42:08.500 --> 01:42:20.500]  but it's an oversized document and it's called a letter patent issued by the Commissioner of the General Land Office
[01:42:20.500 --> 01:42:28.500]  and signed and granted by the Governor of the State of Texas.
[01:42:28.500 --> 01:42:34.500]  Get two copies of that. It will cost you five dollars for a certified copy,
[01:42:34.500 --> 01:42:45.500]  and you should already have a survey of your little piece of property because you probably don't have a full section.
[01:42:45.500 --> 01:42:54.500]  Most people living in town don't buy a mile by a mile in town somewhere. It's a little expensive.
[01:42:54.500 --> 01:43:01.500]  So get a current, if you don't already have it, survey of your piece of property
[01:43:01.500 --> 01:43:06.500]  and make sure that the survey notes are in meet and bound.
[01:43:06.500 --> 01:43:14.500]  The surveyor will know what you're talking about, and depending upon where you're at,
[01:43:14.500 --> 01:43:17.500]  where your property is at, how big it is and all that.
[01:43:17.500 --> 01:43:21.500]  A survey can run anywhere from two hundred to several thousand dollars.
[01:43:21.500 --> 01:43:25.500]  But get two original copies of that.
[01:43:25.500 --> 01:43:33.500]  The surveyor will either have a raised seal or a colored ink seal that he'll stamp it with.
[01:43:33.500 --> 01:43:38.500]  Okay, wait a minute. Hold on, Pat. Hold that thought. We're going to break here.
[01:43:38.500 --> 01:43:41.500]  And listeners, please forgive the background noise, the wind.
[01:43:41.500 --> 01:43:48.500]  Again, Pat is on top of a very tall tower, deep in rural south Texas,
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[01:45:19.500 --> 01:45:23.500]  I must be careful what I'm wishing for.
[01:45:23.500 --> 01:45:28.500]  When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for.
[01:45:28.500 --> 01:45:34.500]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton.
[01:45:34.500 --> 01:45:40.500]  I'm just here making my living pushing buttons.
[01:45:40.500 --> 01:45:46.500]  I give my message out to anyone who's shouting distance.
[01:45:46.500 --> 01:45:51.500]  Vote for bravery and against slavery, showing resistance.
[01:45:51.500 --> 01:45:56.500]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting.
[01:45:56.500 --> 01:46:05.500]  I'm just so glad to make my living pushing buttons.
[01:46:05.500 --> 01:46:09.500]  Okay, we are back with Pat talking about the land patents.
[01:46:09.500 --> 01:46:13.500]  Okay, please continue. $5 for the certified copies.
[01:46:13.500 --> 01:46:20.500]  So you first get the certified copy of the plat of your property, the survey,
[01:46:20.500 --> 01:46:24.500]  and then you get certified copies of the patents.
[01:46:24.500 --> 01:46:30.500]  And this would be at the general land office in Austin, Texas.
[01:46:30.500 --> 01:46:34.500]  Right, you're at the archives section of the TLO in Austin.
[01:46:34.500 --> 01:46:38.500]  Would this be at the state archives library or is this a different office?
[01:46:38.500 --> 01:46:42.500]  No, no, that is the archive library.
[01:46:42.500 --> 01:46:43.500]  Okay.
[01:46:43.500 --> 01:46:45.500]  In the GLO building on the first floor.
[01:46:45.500 --> 01:46:46.500]  Okay, great.
[01:46:46.500 --> 01:46:53.500]  Now for other states, all states have a dispersed GLO archive.
[01:46:53.500 --> 01:47:01.500]  They have, what has happened is the BLM got overloaded with a bunch of stuff.
[01:47:01.500 --> 01:47:04.500]  There's too many documents, too many of everything.
[01:47:04.500 --> 01:47:09.500]  So they dispersed a lot of the records to the different states.
[01:47:09.500 --> 01:47:20.500]  And whether or not the actual hard copy original patent is on file in the other state
[01:47:20.500 --> 01:47:22.500]  in the archives section, I don't know.
[01:47:22.500 --> 01:47:24.500]  I've never had to go and find out.
[01:47:24.500 --> 01:47:26.500]  I've never been to one of them.
[01:47:26.500 --> 01:47:29.500]  The only one I've been to is the one in Austin.
[01:47:29.500 --> 01:47:35.500]  And they have the ones because it originated them.
[01:47:35.500 --> 01:47:42.500]  So if they don't have it for the other state in your archives section in your state capital,
[01:47:42.500 --> 01:47:48.500]  you'll have to request a copy of it from the GLO in Washington, D.C.
[01:47:48.500 --> 01:47:51.500]  And you can go online and find out what it is.
[01:47:51.500 --> 01:47:57.500]  They have a full catalog online and their costs and everything else.
[01:47:57.500 --> 01:47:59.500]  It's very straightforward.
[01:47:59.500 --> 01:48:02.500]  People have been doing this research for a long time.
[01:48:02.500 --> 01:48:07.500]  A lot of times it's done because people are trying to trace family history back
[01:48:07.500 --> 01:48:14.500]  or they're trying to trace history of a particular piece of property back for court reasons.
[01:48:14.500 --> 01:48:16.500]  And they have to get certified copies.
[01:48:16.500 --> 01:48:18.500]  It's not an unusual thing.
[01:48:18.500 --> 01:48:23.500]  And the archivists are very friendly and very knowledgeable.
[01:48:23.500 --> 01:48:28.500]  So if you need to talk to one of them, get them on the phone, tell them what you need,
[01:48:28.500 --> 01:48:32.500]  and they will steer you in the right direction.
[01:48:32.500 --> 01:48:35.500]  They're very good people, every last one of them.
[01:48:35.500 --> 01:48:39.500]  And I don't think any of them are attorneys.
[01:48:39.500 --> 01:48:45.500]  And if they are, they're probably the best attorneys on the planet.
[01:48:45.500 --> 01:48:50.500]  But with that having been said, I will add a caveat in here.
[01:48:50.500 --> 01:48:55.500]  I went to an attorney who I know is a real estate attorney.
[01:48:55.500 --> 01:48:57.500]  That's all he does is real estate.
[01:48:57.500 --> 01:49:01.500]  The reason I know is he's my brother over in Houston.
[01:49:01.500 --> 01:49:08.500]  And he refused to answer any of my questions about land patents.
[01:49:08.500 --> 01:49:12.500]  And he's been in the business a long time.
[01:49:12.500 --> 01:49:17.500]  He's 10 years older than I am, and I'm not a spring chicken.
[01:49:17.500 --> 01:49:23.500]  So just put it this way, I'm a Vietnam vet.
[01:49:23.500 --> 01:49:26.500]  So that gives you an idea how old he is.
[01:49:26.500 --> 01:49:29.500]  Crap, you're a Vietnam vet?
[01:49:29.500 --> 01:49:32.500]  I got dirt older than you.
[01:49:32.500 --> 01:49:35.500]  You got dirt older than me, so do I.
[01:49:35.500 --> 01:49:39.500]  Yeah, that's because I'm a Vietnam vet too, so I know how old you have to be.
[01:49:39.500 --> 01:49:45.500]  Okay, now let me ask you something, Pat, because I'm getting Skype chats from people as we speak
[01:49:45.500 --> 01:49:49.500]  wanting to hire you to help do these things.
[01:49:49.500 --> 01:49:55.500]  But now it sounds to me like folks are going to have to go to the State Archives Library here in Austin
[01:49:55.500 --> 01:50:03.500]  as well as wherever they need to go to get certified copies of the survey of their property.
[01:50:03.500 --> 01:50:09.500]  Now, can you look these things up for other people's properties?
[01:50:09.500 --> 01:50:11.500]  Sure.
[01:50:11.500 --> 01:50:15.500]  We wouldn't need to have a power of attorney to do things like this?
[01:50:15.500 --> 01:50:20.500]  No, no, no. These are public records. These are all public records. Anybody can get them.
[01:50:20.500 --> 01:50:27.500]  And whatever is on file in the county clerk's office is a public record.
[01:50:27.500 --> 01:50:34.500]  Realtors go in there all the time. People from banks and mortgage companies go in there all the time.
[01:50:34.500 --> 01:50:41.500]  Title company people who are doing title searches, they do this all the time.
[01:50:41.500 --> 01:50:45.500]  So someone to get the certified copy of the survey of their property,
[01:50:45.500 --> 01:50:52.500]  they would need to go to the county clerk's office of where they are in their county.
[01:50:52.500 --> 01:50:58.500]  Right. If it's on file there, they may not have a survey that's on file.
[01:50:58.500 --> 01:51:05.500]  Now, the plat will be, but the survey, the current survey of their little house and yard
[01:51:05.500 --> 01:51:15.500]  may not be unless it was put on file the last time that it was surveyed by the surveyor
[01:51:15.500 --> 01:51:22.500]  or by the mortgage company or by the seller or by the buyer.
[01:51:22.500 --> 01:51:26.500]  So where would they go to get the survey if it's not in the county clerk's records?
[01:51:26.500 --> 01:51:31.500]  If it's not there, then they're probably going to have to get it resurveyed.
[01:51:31.500 --> 01:51:39.500]  Oh. Unless they can track down when the most recent survey was,
[01:51:39.500 --> 01:51:42.500]  like maybe through the people they bought the property from or something?
[01:51:42.500 --> 01:51:47.500]  Well, you know, it may have been resurveyed when it was refinanced.
[01:51:47.500 --> 01:51:55.500]  When I had a house in San Antonio, we did a refinance. They required a new survey.
[01:51:55.500 --> 01:51:59.500]  I got five original copies of it for free.
[01:51:59.500 --> 01:52:05.500]  Well, I say for free. I wound up paying for the survey. So I got five copies of the survey.
[01:52:05.500 --> 01:52:07.500]  I made sure of that.
[01:52:07.500 --> 01:52:08.500]  Now, let me ask you.
[01:52:08.500 --> 01:52:10.500]  Was it ever put on file? No, it was not.
[01:52:10.500 --> 01:52:13.500]  All right. Let me ask you something else, Pat.
[01:52:13.500 --> 01:52:18.500]  As far as getting what folks would need from the State Archives Library,
[01:52:18.500 --> 01:52:22.500]  is that something that can be done through the mail
[01:52:22.500 --> 01:52:26.500]  or does somebody actually have to go to the State Archives Library?
[01:52:26.500 --> 01:52:28.500]  You can do it on the phone.
[01:52:28.500 --> 01:52:29.500]  Oh, okay.
[01:52:29.500 --> 01:52:32.500]  You can do it online. You can write them a letter.
[01:52:32.500 --> 01:52:36.500]  The easiest way to do it is call them.
[01:52:36.500 --> 01:52:42.500]  And they have an 800 number. I think it's 866 something. It's on their website.
[01:52:42.500 --> 01:52:48.500]  You can call them and talk to the head archivist.
[01:52:48.500 --> 01:52:56.500]  Give them the property description from the survey.
[01:52:56.500 --> 01:53:02.500]  It will be a block and section number of a particular survey number.
[01:53:02.500 --> 01:53:04.500]  And they can call that up.
[01:53:04.500 --> 01:53:08.500]  They will actually know when it was patented and everything else.
[01:53:08.500 --> 01:53:12.500]  Most of them, they know the area you're dealing with.
[01:53:12.500 --> 01:53:15.500]  You're going to have to know the county it's in.
[01:53:15.500 --> 01:53:17.500]  That's very important.
[01:53:17.500 --> 01:53:22.500]  And then the survey that it is on, the original plat survey that it was on.
[01:53:22.500 --> 01:53:29.500]  And once you have that, then it all depends upon how the patent was issued.
[01:53:29.500 --> 01:53:35.500]  If it was a section patent, a half a section, or a quarter section.
[01:53:35.500 --> 01:53:41.500]  The state issued all three of those at different times.
[01:53:41.500 --> 01:53:44.500]  And so if it's a partial section patent,
[01:53:44.500 --> 01:53:47.500]  you're going to have to know what part of the section you're in.
[01:53:47.500 --> 01:53:52.500]  Northeast, northwest, southeast, southwest quadrant.
[01:53:52.500 --> 01:54:02.500]  And it will state on your survey what part of that patent original section you're in.
[01:54:02.500 --> 01:54:05.500]  So you'll be able to tell them.
[01:54:05.500 --> 01:54:10.500]  And you'll have to give them a credit card number or mail them a check
[01:54:10.500 --> 01:54:13.500]  if you're doing it on the phone.
[01:54:13.500 --> 01:54:18.500]  If you're doing it online, they take credit card numbers online, secure.
[01:54:18.500 --> 01:54:24.500]  If you're there, cash is always king.
[01:54:24.500 --> 01:54:28.500]  You know, $5 a copy, get two copies, and they mail them to you.
[01:54:28.500 --> 01:54:31.500]  They will not give them, even if you go there personally,
[01:54:31.500 --> 01:54:34.500]  they will not give it to you right then that day.
[01:54:34.500 --> 01:54:39.500]  They have to mail it to you because they have to do a special reproduction process
[01:54:39.500 --> 01:54:44.500]  because of the nature of the document, how old they are.
[01:54:44.500 --> 01:54:52.500]  They keep them in a very secure vault area, nitrogen filled normally
[01:54:52.500 --> 01:54:58.500]  so the paper doesn't disintegrate and the ink doesn't fade.
[01:54:58.500 --> 01:55:00.500]  They take very good care of these documents.
[01:55:00.500 --> 01:55:02.500]  And some of them are beautiful.
[01:55:02.500 --> 01:55:05.500]  You really need to look at them.
[01:55:05.500 --> 01:55:12.500]  They go all the way back to the Republic, and they're fantastically laid out.
[01:55:12.500 --> 01:55:18.500]  And I can attest to the nature of the people at the State Archives Library
[01:55:18.500 --> 01:55:22.500]  because I've been down there quite a bit lately doing research for some other issues,
[01:55:22.500 --> 01:55:26.500]  and they are very, very nice.
[01:55:26.500 --> 01:55:30.500]  They will bend over backwards to help you get what you need.
[01:55:30.500 --> 01:55:32.500]  So don't be afraid of these people at all.
[01:55:32.500 --> 01:55:36.500]  They are very, very helpful, very nice, very knowledgeable.
[01:55:36.500 --> 01:55:39.500]  You know, you just start talking a little bit about what you're looking for,
[01:55:39.500 --> 01:55:41.500]  and they'll know exactly what you want.
[01:55:41.500 --> 01:55:43.500]  And like I said, they'll bend over backwards to help you.
[01:55:43.500 --> 01:55:45.500]  So definitely give them a call.
[01:55:45.500 --> 01:55:50.500]  If you're not sure what you absolutely need or what you have,
[01:55:50.500 --> 01:55:53.500]  tell them what you have, what you're looking for,
[01:55:53.500 --> 01:55:57.500]  in the best terms that you know how to express it,
[01:55:57.500 --> 01:55:59.500]  and they'll help you all the way through.
[01:55:59.500 --> 01:56:02.500]  They'll help you through the process.
[01:56:02.500 --> 01:56:07.500]  I spent an afternoon up there and was so thoroughly impressed.
[01:56:07.500 --> 01:56:09.500]  I went back the next day just for grins,
[01:56:09.500 --> 01:56:13.500]  and I was driving up there from San Antonio at the time.
[01:56:13.500 --> 01:56:18.500]  Very nice people. Could not be more helpful.
[01:56:18.500 --> 01:56:22.500]  Couldn't be more helpful. I'm telling you, they're very nice.
[01:56:22.500 --> 01:56:26.500]  And the use of the archives is free.
[01:56:26.500 --> 01:56:33.500]  The only thing that's costing you money is a certified copy of the document.
[01:56:33.500 --> 01:56:37.500]  Now, I had a question from somebody who's sending me Skype chats right now.
[01:56:37.500 --> 01:56:41.500]  They want to know if it is necessary or could be necessary
[01:56:41.500 --> 01:56:46.500]  at any point during this process to go to court.
[01:56:46.500 --> 01:56:53.500]  At this process, no, unless there's a major problem with the deed.
[01:56:53.500 --> 01:56:57.500]  Now, understand something. Look at the face of your deed.
[01:56:57.500 --> 01:57:08.500]  Your deed already should say that they have granted, transferred, assigned.
[01:57:08.500 --> 01:57:12.500]  There's about six different words there that they'll either use all of them
[01:57:12.500 --> 01:57:15.500]  or just one of them.
[01:57:15.500 --> 01:57:20.500]  As in our case, we bought our property through the Texas Veterans Land Board,
[01:57:20.500 --> 01:57:24.500]  and the deed, we had a contract for deed with them.
[01:57:24.500 --> 01:57:30.500]  The deed came signed by the Commissioner of the General Land Office for Texas,
[01:57:30.500 --> 01:57:34.500]  and it was an assignment deed.
[01:57:34.500 --> 01:57:42.500]  They assigned the property directly to my wife by name.
[01:57:42.500 --> 01:57:45.500]  So it was already taken care of.
[01:57:45.500 --> 01:57:50.500]  Now, any piece of property you buy that you have a mortgage on,
[01:57:50.500 --> 01:57:53.500]  you'll get a deed, normally a warranty deed,
[01:57:53.500 --> 01:57:59.500]  and right up front, the first paragraph or two, it starts off saying that
[01:57:59.500 --> 01:58:04.500]  the land has been granted, transferred, assigned to you, your heirs,
[01:58:04.500 --> 01:58:06.500]  and assigned forever.
[01:58:06.500 --> 01:58:09.500]  Okay, quickly, Pat, before we go to break here,
[01:58:09.500 --> 01:58:14.500]  this person who's chatting me wants to know if this process,
[01:58:14.500 --> 01:58:17.500]  does the county have the right to challenge or has the authority
[01:58:17.500 --> 01:58:20.500]  or any basis to challenge this process in court?
[01:58:20.500 --> 01:58:23.500]  Has this process ever been challenged in court?
[01:58:23.500 --> 01:58:27.500]  Yes, it's been challenged in court, and it has been challenged
[01:58:27.500 --> 01:58:33.500]  to the US Supreme Court and state Supreme Court all over the United States.
[01:58:33.500 --> 01:58:34.500]  And they've lost?
[01:58:34.500 --> 01:58:39.500]  To the point that if you have a land, Pat, you've brought it forward,
[01:58:39.500 --> 01:58:43.500]  it's in your name, that is absolute title.
[01:58:43.500 --> 01:58:46.500]  Okay, so it's been...
[01:58:46.500 --> 01:58:48.500]  They won't even adjudicate it anymore.
[01:58:48.500 --> 01:58:50.500]  They won't even adjudicate it anymore, that's what I wanted to know.
[01:58:50.500 --> 01:58:52.500]  All right, listen, we're going to break.
[01:58:52.500 --> 01:58:54.500]  We're going to break, stay on the line, Pat.
[01:58:54.500 --> 01:58:57.500]  Don't fall off the tower, we'll be right back.
[01:58:57.500 --> 01:58:58.500]  Hang on, Pat.
[01:58:58.500 --> 01:59:13.500]  I want you to move.
[01:59:28.500 --> 01:59:50.500]  I want you to move.
[01:59:50.500 --> 01:59:58.500]  Thank you.