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[00:05.000 --> 00:10.000] Representative Alan Grayson wants Americans to help him block Congress from confirming
[00:10.000 --> 00:16.000] Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the Federal Reserve, to a second term unless he hands over documents
[00:16.000 --> 00:20.000] relating to the bailouts of financial institutions.
[00:20.000 --> 00:25.000] Canada's top commander in Afghanistan, Brigadier General Jonathan Vance,
[00:25.000 --> 00:33.000] said Wednesday, Afghanistan is in a serious desperate situation, which constitutes a major emergency.
[00:33.000 --> 00:37.000] A recent poll showed more than half of Canadians opposed the mission.
[00:37.000 --> 00:45.000] Congressman Dennis Kucinich said Wednesday, in reaction to the deployment of 13,000 more troops to Afghanistan,
[00:45.000 --> 00:48.000] nation building cannot come from the barrel of a gun.
[00:48.000 --> 00:57.000] It is time that Congress takes control of this war by eliminating its funding and bringing our troops home.
[00:57.000 --> 01:06.000] The Treasury Department's independent watchdog says AIG employees have returned less than half the $45 million in bonuses
[01:06.000 --> 01:12.000] they promised to repay after the company received tens of billions of dollars in taxpayer aid.
[01:12.000 --> 01:19.000] A public outcry erupted in March after AIG paid out $165 million in executive bonus pay
[01:19.000 --> 01:26.000] after being awarded $180 billion in taxpayer loans and incentives to keep the company afloat.
[01:26.000 --> 01:35.000] Days later, seeking to ease criticism, AIG CEO Edward Liddy asked employees to give back at least half their bonuses.
[01:35.000 --> 01:39.000] Liddy, appointed after news of the company's problems broke,
[01:39.000 --> 01:43.000] said he lacked the legal authority to rescind the bonuses.
[01:43.000 --> 01:48.000] An audit of the AIG bonus program released Tuesday by Neil Barofsky,
[01:48.000 --> 01:54.000] Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, found only $19 million had been returned.
[01:54.000 --> 02:00.000] AIG noted it will be difficult to collect the money from those that have left the company.
[02:00.000 --> 02:06.000] Virtual monopolies that health insurance have enjoyed faced possible breakup
[02:06.000 --> 02:12.000] after a proposal made Wednesday that calls for revoking the carry's exemption from antitrust laws.
[02:12.000 --> 02:19.000] Senator Charles Schumer said the exemption granted to insurers under the McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945
[02:19.000 --> 02:26.000] should be repealed in light of concerns that individual insurers often have a stranglehold in major markets.
[02:26.000 --> 02:33.000] Schumer said the health insurance's antitrust exemption is one of the worst accidents of American history,
[02:33.000 --> 02:41.000] adding it deserves a lot of the blame for the huge rise in premiums that has made health insurance so unaffordable,
[02:41.000 --> 02:48.000] adding it is time to end this special status and bring true competition to the health insurance industry.
[02:48.000 --> 02:53.000] Schumer is asking that a floor amendment be attached to whatever health care legislation
[02:53.000 --> 03:03.000] Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid brings to the floor later this month.
[03:24.000 --> 03:31.000] What you want, what you want, what you're gonna do
[03:31.000 --> 03:36.000] When the sun's broken over you
[03:36.000 --> 03:43.000] Tell me what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do
[03:43.000 --> 03:48.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do
[03:48.000 --> 03:50.000] What you're gonna do when they come for you
[03:50.000 --> 03:53.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do
[03:53.000 --> 03:56.000] What you're gonna do when they come for you
[03:56.000 --> 03:59.000] When you were eight and you had bad trees
[03:59.000 --> 04:01.000] You'd go to school and learn the golden rule
[04:01.000 --> 04:04.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool
[04:04.000 --> 04:07.000] And eat yourbones like you're a monkey
[04:07.000 --> 04:10.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do
[04:10.000 --> 04:12.000] What you're gonna do when they come for you
[04:12.000 --> 04:15.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you're gonna do
[04:15.000 --> 04:17.000] What you're gonna do when they come for you
[04:17.000 --> 04:46.400] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do when we come for you?
[04:46.400 --> 04:52.040] Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[04:52.040 --> 04:56.600] Eddie Craig joins us on Mondays and Friday nights.
[04:56.600 --> 05:02.640] Tonight we have a very special guest, Mr. Keith Crawford from Texas, and he is involved
[05:02.640 --> 05:08.640] in the case and he's really whoop-wopping with due process and sticking up for due process,
[05:08.640 --> 05:10.640] filing criminal charges, filing criminal complaints.
[05:10.640 --> 05:15.000] Randy, why don't you introduce our guest and get into the topic with him?
[05:15.000 --> 05:18.400] That we're gonna discuss with him, please.
[05:18.400 --> 05:24.440] If you've been listening regularly, you've heard Keith call in about being in a beer
[05:24.440 --> 05:31.080] joint of some sort in Houston, and the police came in and rousted everybody and took his
[05:31.080 --> 05:37.720] knife and took his ID card and never gave it back, but his driver's license, and apparently
[05:37.720 --> 05:42.760] did that to a bunch of folks, and then later on the same cop stopped him on the street
[05:42.760 --> 05:45.080] and arrested him.
[05:45.080 --> 05:52.680] Why don't you kind of give us the outline of the story, and then what you've done as
[05:52.680 --> 06:02.680] a result and what you've come to understand about the criminal justice system as a result.
[06:02.680 --> 06:10.840] Well, Randy, I guess, I mean, what had occurred is this place is just a really, really small
[06:10.840 --> 06:15.720] place to serve food, and they do serve alcohol, and it's kind of a little karaoke place.
[06:15.720 --> 06:19.720] It's behind a bigger, more well-established restaurant, at least it used to be there.
[06:19.720 --> 06:25.840] It moved across the street, but yeah, we were there, I don't know, it was about 10 o'clock,
[06:25.840 --> 06:35.520] and then six precinct foreshares deputies walked inside the place, and at first glance,
[06:35.520 --> 06:37.640] that's kind of strange.
[06:37.640 --> 06:44.800] Then they went, it just went person to person, demanded identification from everybody, and
[06:44.800 --> 06:48.120] people were just pulling stuff out, plastic was flying everywhere, and that's kind of
[06:48.120 --> 06:49.120] what I did.
[06:49.120 --> 06:55.760] I gave them two or three pieces, and once they grabbed all this stuff, they took it
[06:55.760 --> 07:02.160] all outside, and I thought, well, what in the world's going on, and they were gone forever.
[07:02.160 --> 07:06.400] I mean, they were gone for, I don't know, an hour or two.
[07:06.400 --> 07:11.120] They came back and handed people stuff and left, handed me back one, well, one or two
[07:11.120 --> 07:18.560] pieces, two pieces, kept the only good one I had, which was just to take identification.
[07:18.560 --> 07:25.800] Anyway, I believe they took some people to jail, I'm not sure, but it had threatened
[07:25.800 --> 07:28.960] people with the rest, it threatened me with the rest for absolutely no reason other than
[07:28.960 --> 07:35.400] telling these guys, hey, what you're doing is illegal, because I know the owner and the
[07:35.400 --> 07:39.520] manager, and they looked at me and just shook their head, they said, well, what's going
[07:39.520 --> 07:40.520] on?
[07:40.520 --> 07:43.680] They hadn't called anybody, there wasn't a summons, there wasn't a warrant for anybody,
[07:43.680 --> 07:44.680] you know.
[07:44.680 --> 07:52.480] I don't know, it's kind of typical of what's going on in different police departments.
[07:52.480 --> 08:01.000] I know up there in Austin that I guess all of the data now is starting to draw blood,
[08:01.000 --> 08:03.200] the checkpoints, I mean, from every...
[08:03.200 --> 08:07.960] No, he's not doing that yet, no, no, we're pretty much stopping that, in fact, one of
[08:07.960 --> 08:14.560] the hosts on this network, John Bush, he organized a public hearing, this was about six months
[08:14.560 --> 08:19.760] ago, there was a city council member present, someone representing MADD, others against
[08:19.760 --> 08:25.480] drunk driving, somebody from the ACLU, John Bush from Texans for Accountable Governments,
[08:25.480 --> 08:31.600] he's the executive director of that political action committee, and huge public hearings,
[08:31.600 --> 08:38.280] several hundred people, and we broadcasted it live on the air from the city council chambers,
[08:38.280 --> 08:43.240] and basically because of our activist work against this, we really put him on the dime,
[08:43.240 --> 08:49.640] and see, he can't do anything like that without authority from city council anyway, he's just
[08:49.640 --> 08:56.240] wanting to do it, and he's trying to get city council to approve federal funding, to receive
[08:56.240 --> 09:02.320] federal funds for this program, and basically they're all on such a hot seat now because
[09:02.320 --> 09:06.200] of this, that they're... looks like we pretty much stopped it.
[09:06.200 --> 09:07.720] Yeah, I hope so.
[09:07.720 --> 09:10.120] Yeah, but anyway, so go ahead, please.
[09:10.120 --> 09:16.960] Okay, but anyway, I told these fellows it was illegal, I was told to shut, just the
[09:16.960 --> 09:21.520] typical thing, probably most, a lot of people have heard, unfortunately, that I didn't show
[09:21.520 --> 09:25.760] that I was going to go to jail, which is an offense, a violation in and of itself, that's
[09:25.760 --> 09:28.800] what they were doing was criminal.
[09:28.800 --> 09:33.480] I don't know how many people actually had things that were gone forever, and they're
[09:33.480 --> 09:38.800] really gone forever, I know that mine was, because now I've been a little bit handicapped
[09:38.800 --> 09:43.160] because I've been trying to get things, trying to get things standardized to have a little
[09:43.160 --> 09:50.760] bit of a problem here, but anyway, that was around the 6th of August, and the 27th of
[09:50.760 --> 09:55.480] August, I was headed back to the same place, it was about nine o'clock at night, I was
[09:55.480 --> 10:00.440] going to go help a friend of mine, I do say, just help him out, because he's by himself,
[10:00.440 --> 10:08.480] and I pulled over, and I thought, well, no big deal, I'll just, you know, consequently,
[10:08.480 --> 10:17.560] one thing led to another, I got out of my truck, and I recognized this guy, it was dark,
[10:17.560 --> 10:24.320] and then two, there had been two black deputies that showed up that night, also, and two black
[10:24.320 --> 10:29.920] deputies showed up, we don't have a lot of black deputies, it's just, I don't know why,
[10:29.920 --> 10:34.800] but that's just the way it is, but anyway, these guys showed up, they said, more or less,
[10:34.800 --> 10:43.840] this is the guy, they went and huddled, and then the next thing I know, I'm going to jail,
[10:43.840 --> 10:51.160] so anyway, got down, went to a substation, was asked for, you know, was asked for my
[10:51.160 --> 10:58.920] personal belongings, gave that stuff, and I guess, I mean, he had to, you know, whatever,
[10:58.920 --> 11:05.920] having signed a form for my possessions, then went, actually went to, you know, went to
[11:05.920 --> 11:13.840] the county lockup, sat there for 28 hours, never saw a magistrate, which is a huge, huge
[11:13.840 --> 11:21.120] problem, that in and of itself, I've found, is the biggest thing, because that's the most
[11:21.120 --> 11:25.600] important thing, insofar as your liberty's concerned, because you're not able to talk
[11:25.600 --> 11:32.400] to a magistrate, and the realization that I've come to is, you don't, you don't, anyway,
[11:32.400 --> 11:36.440] you may see an image, but you rarely do, unless you've, you know, unless you've really done
[11:36.440 --> 11:41.120] something bad, you know, you're not going to go, you won't actually see a magistrate,
[11:41.120 --> 11:45.280] you won't face your accuser, you're just going to go for a magistrate, as well as they rubber
[11:45.280 --> 11:50.120] stamp, I guess, whatever the, you know, whatever the deputy has said, as far as his complaint
[11:50.120 --> 11:54.240] is concerned, and that sucker goes right to the prosecutor, district attorney, that's just,
[11:54.240 --> 11:59.160] that seems to be the way it is, it's a complete and total violation of law, and when I'm talking
[11:59.160 --> 12:04.840] about a, it's probably a half dozen counts of violations of penal code and the code of
[12:04.840 --> 12:11.520] criminal procedure, at the very least, so anyway, that progressed, that lasted 28 hours,
[12:11.520 --> 12:18.120] I got out, and then I had an, I had an arraignment that was going to be, I got out on the 29th,
[12:18.120 --> 12:23.640] my arraignment was for the 4th of September, which is on a Friday, and I went, and more
[12:23.640 --> 12:27.600] or less, you know, I just wanted to see who, who was who in the zoo, you know, what was,
[12:27.600 --> 12:34.640] you know, how could I, you know, what needed to be done myself, because I, I, I knew that
[12:34.640 --> 12:43.320] there were problems with this process, and the judge was just, it's just like, get an
[12:43.320 --> 12:48.320] attorney, get an attorney, get an attorney, and I've been the last three or four, the
[12:48.320 --> 12:52.400] last three or four times, it's been going on for six weeks, and I've never had an attorney,
[12:52.400 --> 13:00.120] because I've been, I've, I've filed three motions, motion to disqualify a resting officer,
[13:00.120 --> 13:10.000] motion to disqualify a magistrate, motion to quash indictment, and the last one, motion
[13:10.000 --> 13:16.400] to quash the presiding judge, and the reason I'd done that was, I'd asked her during,
[13:16.400 --> 13:22.280] it wasn't the initial arraignment, it was the second time that we met, and I asked her,
[13:22.280 --> 13:26.800] since I hadn't seen a magistrate, hadn't seen anybody, I hadn't been able to plead
[13:26.800 --> 13:32.040] my case, and this is just typical, like I said, this is my, this has been my experience
[13:32.040 --> 13:38.960] in researching this, and talking to other people, that, that, that just doesn't happen,
[13:38.960 --> 13:42.800] you're not, you're not going to be able to, you won't say anything on your own behalf
[13:42.800 --> 13:46.080] before somebody that's supposed to uphold the law, and you're supposed to be able to
[13:46.080 --> 13:52.960] meet, or face your accuser in front of a judge, it's just, it's not the way it happens.
[13:52.960 --> 13:59.760] Ask the presiding judge, at the second hearing that I had, if she would act in her capacity
[13:59.760 --> 14:06.880] as a magistrate, and hold an examining court, or an examining trial, and do a criminal complaint
[14:06.880 --> 14:11.680] that I'd filed along with witnesses, or that I'd actually, that I'd actually done with
[14:11.680 --> 14:17.840] witnesses, against this officer, for what had happened, and I was hoping through that,
[14:17.840 --> 14:23.080] we could find, you know, that we would get the rest of these guys, you know, but that
[14:23.080 --> 14:26.280] hasn't come to pass.
[14:26.280 --> 14:34.800] I filed it with Adrian Garcia, he's the sheriff of Years County now, and I also filed it with
[14:34.800 --> 14:43.120] an assistant district attorney, and absolutely, absolutely nothing, the district attorney
[14:43.120 --> 14:51.880] told me to take my criminal complaint to internal affairs, and that, that is as good as, you
[14:51.880 --> 14:52.880] know, that's worthless.
[14:52.880 --> 14:57.800] Well yeah, he's trying to get you to take it into an administrative realm, and this
[14:57.800 --> 15:03.640] isn't about administrative complaints, this is about criminal complaints.
[15:03.640 --> 15:09.160] And once, when I'm sending that, but at that particular point, it had already come down
[15:09.160 --> 15:14.000] to, I mean, we'd already had all these process problems, and I noted every one, I had twenty-two
[15:14.000 --> 15:16.720] criminal complaints about setting.
[15:16.720 --> 15:20.640] The one, the one for the officer, and the one that, you know, what had happened on August
[15:20.640 --> 15:26.600] 6th, was the first, and everything kind of piggybacked off that.
[15:26.600 --> 15:30.080] And like I said, he said, well I don't know what to do with the rest of these, I said
[15:30.080 --> 15:34.800] you're an officer of the court, you know, you've got to, it's down to black and white
[15:34.800 --> 15:37.160] as to exactly how all this happened.
[15:37.160 --> 15:42.800] All these people have had a part in this particular instance, and they're all guilty of the things
[15:42.800 --> 15:47.520] that you see on those, you know, on those complaints.
[15:47.520 --> 15:48.520] That's what it's all about.
[15:48.520 --> 15:52.800] You know, I can tell you here and now, that's what it's all about.
[15:52.800 --> 15:58.240] So, I mean, that's pretty much where it is.
[15:58.240 --> 16:01.040] Have you tried to file a complaint to the magistrate yet, or judge?
[16:01.040 --> 16:06.240] Well, I've tried with the magistrate, yes, I mean with the magistrate, my county judge.
[16:06.240 --> 16:07.720] And he wouldn't take the complaints?
[16:07.720 --> 16:08.720] Would not.
[16:08.720 --> 16:11.800] Then that's, you can file a complaint against him for that?
[16:11.800 --> 16:12.800] I already have.
[16:12.800 --> 16:13.800] Good.
[16:13.800 --> 16:18.040] Well, you know, I'm surprised that you've even been able to file these motions that
[16:18.040 --> 16:25.280] you were mentioning earlier, because usually the prosecutor, you know, he secrets all the
[16:25.280 --> 16:32.120] information from the magistrate upon someone's arrest, you know, the initial, yeah, the whole
[16:32.120 --> 16:36.240] thing starts, and the prosecutor doesn't file it with the court clerk until he gets the
[16:36.240 --> 16:41.640] deal, and the magistrate's the one who's supposed to be filing it with the court clerk anyway.
[16:41.640 --> 16:46.360] And if the file hasn't been opened with the clerk, then you can't even file motions in
[16:46.360 --> 16:47.360] your own case.
[16:47.360 --> 16:51.400] So, I want to discuss how you're able to file these motions when we get back on the
[16:51.400 --> 16:52.400] other side.
[16:52.400 --> 16:56.960] The rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig with our special guest, Keith
[16:56.960 --> 16:57.960] Crawford.
[16:57.960 --> 16:58.960] We'll be right back.
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[18:23.440 --> 18:44.760] Well, not if we have something to say about it and something to do about it.
[18:44.760 --> 18:46.200] And Keith Crawford as well.
[18:46.200 --> 18:52.160] So yeah, Keith, I just want to ask a question here before we continue on with the story
[18:52.160 --> 18:58.280] concerning about your filing of these motions, because it's pretty much general practice,
[18:58.280 --> 19:05.200] general policy that, you know, of course these examining trials are held ex parte before
[19:05.200 --> 19:10.360] the person even sees the magistrate and then they have these illegal magistrations.
[19:10.360 --> 19:17.240] And then the prosecutor secrets the documents away from the court clerk.
[19:17.240 --> 19:20.800] He gets them directly from the magistrate, which of course is a felony tampering with
[19:20.800 --> 19:25.240] the government document, and the magistrate's guilty of crimes too because he didn't file
[19:25.240 --> 19:27.440] them with the court clerk to begin with.
[19:27.440 --> 19:32.280] And the prosecutor won't file those documents with the court clerk until he squeezes a deal
[19:32.280 --> 19:33.760] out of somebody.
[19:33.760 --> 19:36.800] And so you can't even file motions in your own case.
[19:36.800 --> 19:38.840] That's what happened to Randy up in Williamson County.
[19:38.840 --> 19:45.780] So can you please explain the process of the paperwork and what happened which allowed
[19:45.780 --> 19:49.040] you to be able to file motions in your case to begin with?
[19:49.040 --> 19:55.320] Well, I mean, I filed these motions, I actually went to the district clerk's website, and
[19:55.320 --> 19:59.480] I could see what was in the file on their side, but I couldn't see anything on my side.
[19:59.480 --> 20:07.520] I guess mainly what I'm wondering is how did your case get open with the court clerk to
[20:07.520 --> 20:08.520] begin with?
[20:08.520 --> 20:12.160] Did the prosecutor actually file the documents with the court clerk?
[20:12.160 --> 20:14.920] I mean, I suspect you haven't taken a plea deal yet or anything.
[20:14.920 --> 20:15.920] I have not.
[20:15.920 --> 20:21.960] Yes, so this is kind of unusual that you were even able to file documents in the case that
[20:21.960 --> 20:22.960] there's even a case.
[20:22.960 --> 20:26.880] I mean, it's unusual that there's even a case that exists at all because usually people
[20:26.880 --> 20:34.880] are sitting in jail or out on bail being pressured for a deal, and they haven't even been in
[20:34.880 --> 20:37.680] charge of the crime yet as far as the court goes.
[20:37.680 --> 20:41.560] And so I'm just wondering how did your case get open to begin with?
[20:41.560 --> 20:46.120] Do you know if the magistrate filed the original documents or did the prosecutor?
[20:46.120 --> 20:50.440] There is nothing in the file with the magistrate's name.
[20:50.440 --> 20:51.800] I know who the magistrate is now.
[20:51.800 --> 20:55.440] I had to dig and dig and dig, and I finally got it, but I couldn't get it through open
[20:55.440 --> 20:56.440] records.
[20:56.440 --> 20:57.440] It's something else.
[20:57.440 --> 21:00.440] Well, I can go into that a little bit later.
[21:00.440 --> 21:06.240] But no, there's no probable cause document, and there's no, obviously, there's no information
[21:06.240 --> 21:09.960] for me because I wasn't there.
[21:09.960 --> 21:13.560] There's an information.
[21:13.560 --> 21:15.680] It's not signed by the arresting officer.
[21:15.680 --> 21:18.160] It's actually signed by the assistant district attorney.
[21:18.160 --> 21:23.760] I filed criminal charges against her, too.
[21:23.760 --> 21:29.480] Perhaps the assistant DA actually opened the case then, even though you haven't taken a
[21:29.480 --> 21:30.480] deal.
[21:30.480 --> 21:31.480] There's no other way.
[21:31.480 --> 21:32.480] Right.
[21:32.480 --> 21:35.520] I'm thinking that they had someone, maybe, that was expendable.
[21:35.520 --> 21:45.560] There's a statute, or actually a case law that says, in order to avoid the obvious evils
[21:45.560 --> 21:52.320] of the accumulation of power in any one given office or the purpose of filing a criminal
[21:52.320 --> 21:58.240] accusation, the prosecuting attorney is not a credible person.
[21:58.240 --> 22:06.120] If only an information is filed and no criminal complaint, then it is the prosecuting attorney
[22:06.120 --> 22:09.480] who has initiated the prosecution, and he's forbidden to.
[22:09.480 --> 22:10.480] Oh, my gosh.
[22:10.480 --> 22:14.360] So then that's just one more thing on top of the pile that they're doing that's totally
[22:14.360 --> 22:15.360] illegal.
[22:15.360 --> 22:21.960] I was talking to Randy about that, in particular, it's just about everything, and I kind of
[22:21.960 --> 22:22.960] laughed.
[22:22.960 --> 22:23.960] I said, you know what?
[22:23.960 --> 22:24.960] I've done 22 of these.
[22:24.960 --> 22:30.680] I could do another 80, or 80, at least four for every person, and this would be for the
[22:30.680 --> 22:34.880] district attorney for Harris County, because of what I went through with the assistant
[22:34.880 --> 22:41.040] district attorney, and he's essentially in her charge.
[22:41.040 --> 22:47.200] But yeah, that's the way it goes, and like I said, I've gone through my file.
[22:47.200 --> 22:48.440] I can't see anything.
[22:48.440 --> 22:56.000] There's nothing there, but the magistrate, not even the bonding document has his signature.
[22:56.000 --> 22:57.000] I mean, it's crazy.
[22:57.000 --> 23:00.600] Well, that's because you were never brought before, magistrate.
[23:00.600 --> 23:01.600] Never, no, I was not.
[23:01.600 --> 23:02.600] Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[23:02.600 --> 23:03.600] Were you arrested?
[23:03.600 --> 23:04.600] Is that right?
[23:04.600 --> 23:05.600] Yes.
[23:05.600 --> 23:12.200] Okay, you were arrested, you never went in front of the magistrate, they just let you
[23:12.200 --> 23:13.200] out of jail?
[23:13.200 --> 23:14.200] No, no, no, no.
[23:14.200 --> 23:15.200] I had a cash bond.
[23:15.200 --> 23:22.120] But, I mean, usually you would have to see the magistrate at some point when you're in
[23:22.120 --> 23:24.800] the jail before they release you from the jail.
[23:24.800 --> 23:26.800] By law, that's where it's supposed to be.
[23:26.800 --> 23:29.240] But you never saw a magistrate when you were in the jail?
[23:29.240 --> 23:30.240] Nope, never did.
[23:30.240 --> 23:34.000] So they just released you and made you pay, I mean...
[23:34.000 --> 23:35.000] Yes.
[23:35.000 --> 23:36.000] Oh my God.
[23:36.000 --> 23:37.000] Crazy.
[23:37.000 --> 23:38.000] Yeah, that's true.
[23:38.000 --> 23:43.920] So you didn't even get the illegal magistration.
[23:43.920 --> 23:49.480] They held your examining trial ex parte and set bail and then you didn't even get the
[23:49.480 --> 23:50.480] magistration.
[23:50.480 --> 23:53.680] The thing about it is, Debra, I don't even know that they did that.
[23:53.680 --> 23:58.600] Well, somebody had to set... It had to have been... That's technically what would have
[23:58.600 --> 24:05.520] happened because the prosecutor or the cop or whatever gets some documents regarding
[24:05.520 --> 24:09.920] you to the magistrate at some point so the magistrate can set bail.
[24:09.920 --> 24:15.960] Now, if the prosecutor set bail, now we really have a problem on our hands.
[24:15.960 --> 24:18.160] Actually, a police officer... Or they do, actually.
[24:18.160 --> 24:19.640] They have a problem.
[24:19.640 --> 24:26.560] A police officer is authorized to set bail under 1720, 21 and 22, but those tend to only
[24:26.560 --> 24:31.960] be in circumstances where they're unable to locate a magistrate.
[24:31.960 --> 24:37.240] That's something they can do in lieu of a magistrate if a magistrate's not available.
[24:37.240 --> 24:43.760] How can we find out if a magistrate even set his bail, Randy?
[24:43.760 --> 24:45.800] That's really, really hard.
[24:45.800 --> 24:51.080] Yeah, that's interesting to see who actually determined the amount of bail.
[24:51.080 --> 24:56.760] I mean, wouldn't the magistrate have had to sign some documents or write something down
[24:56.760 --> 24:58.680] somewhere setting the bail amount?
[24:58.680 --> 25:01.520] I mean, how do we even know what the bail amount was?
[25:01.520 --> 25:05.160] I mean, somebody had to tell... Somebody had to speak up and say, this is your bail
[25:05.160 --> 25:06.160] amount.
[25:06.160 --> 25:07.160] Yes.
[25:07.160 --> 25:08.160] I mean, who did that?
[25:08.160 --> 25:11.800] I got that from a jailer.
[25:11.800 --> 25:13.920] How can we trace down who set the bail?
[25:13.920 --> 25:16.240] I mean, doesn't somebody have to sign something?
[25:16.240 --> 25:21.400] I mean, why do they just... They're just making this up as they go along?
[25:21.400 --> 25:22.400] Here's what I did.
[25:22.400 --> 25:25.400] Now, I'll go into that now.
[25:25.400 --> 25:35.440] A couple of open government requests for the chain of custody for all my information from
[25:35.440 --> 25:43.080] the time I entered that place at the time I left, and they've never sent me anything.
[25:43.080 --> 25:44.080] They haven't made a call.
[25:44.080 --> 25:45.080] They haven't mentioned it in court.
[25:45.080 --> 25:46.080] I've asked, and they don't know.
[25:46.080 --> 25:47.080] It's insane.
[25:47.080 --> 25:48.080] I mean, I've done that twice.
[25:48.080 --> 25:55.920] I've done that for the chain of custody for my information, for everything.
[25:55.920 --> 25:57.480] An open record request or something?
[25:57.480 --> 26:03.160] Yes, for the court to get that stuff from the jail, wherever they have to get it from.
[26:03.160 --> 26:08.360] If they don't respond to your open records request within a specified time frame under
[26:08.360 --> 26:11.920] law, then that's another crime.
[26:11.920 --> 26:14.560] It's yet another, right.
[26:14.560 --> 26:15.560] I've done that.
[26:15.560 --> 26:21.560] I've also made an open records request concerning the jailers, because while I was there, I think
[26:21.560 --> 26:22.560] a man died.
[26:22.560 --> 26:23.560] I'm not sure.
[26:23.560 --> 26:24.560] What?
[26:24.560 --> 26:25.560] Yes.
[26:25.560 --> 26:26.560] What?
[26:26.560 --> 26:27.560] Someone in the jail died?
[26:27.560 --> 26:28.560] Yes.
[26:28.560 --> 26:29.560] Oh, my God.
[26:29.560 --> 26:34.160] Verbal abuse, the whole nine yards, I mean, it's horrible.
[26:34.160 --> 26:35.160] It's horrible.
[26:35.160 --> 26:37.120] I mean, nobody should be treated.
[26:37.120 --> 26:41.240] I treat my animals much, much better than them.
[26:41.240 --> 26:46.160] I mean, as far as the hygiene of the place, and just, I mean, the way their attitudes
[26:46.160 --> 26:50.400] towards people, any physical abuse, verbal abuse, just not necessary.
[26:50.400 --> 26:53.600] It's a violation of law.
[26:53.600 --> 27:02.200] I've requested that information, too, so that I could file criminal complaints, you know,
[27:02.200 --> 27:03.480] figure out who these people are.
[27:03.480 --> 27:07.800] Essentially, it should be all these people, because they all actually participate in that
[27:07.800 --> 27:08.800] behavior.
[27:08.800 --> 27:15.080] So, I mean, if you see it, you don't do anything about it, you know it's illegal, well, you're
[27:15.080 --> 27:19.840] part of the posse, so.
[27:19.840 --> 27:27.040] And I've filed 22 criminal complaints, I've sent criminal complaints to the sheriff, concerned
[27:27.040 --> 27:34.080] this officer, the district attorney, or the assistant district attorney, and I haven't
[27:34.080 --> 27:38.040] sent these to my particular court of law judge.
[27:38.040 --> 27:42.520] She's only gotten them one, so she's only gotten one concerning the officer, and that's
[27:42.520 --> 27:43.520] enough.
[27:43.520 --> 27:44.520] You know, that's enough, too.
[27:44.520 --> 27:45.520] That's felony.
[27:45.520 --> 27:52.920] So, and on two or three different levels, and I could continue, but I thought, you know,
[27:52.920 --> 27:53.920] what's the point?
[27:53.920 --> 28:00.760] I mean, I've made probably the strongest case, and nobody seems to want to, you know, pull
[28:00.760 --> 28:02.760] the line, so.
[28:02.760 --> 28:08.480] Well, people aren't, I mean, it sounds to me like your criminal complaints have not
[28:08.480 --> 28:12.640] gotten to a magistrate yet.
[28:12.640 --> 28:17.840] It sounds to me like you technically have not even been able to file your complaints
[28:17.840 --> 28:24.360] because they're really not filed until they're given to the magistrate and entered into the
[28:24.360 --> 28:32.360] record of the court, the clerk of the court, and so we, and if the judge acting in his
[28:32.360 --> 28:36.440] capacity is a, or if the judge that you try to give the criminal complaints, file the
[28:36.440 --> 28:43.120] criminal complaints with, refuse to act in his or her official capacity as a magistrate,
[28:43.120 --> 28:48.640] which was invoked as soon as you handed the complaints to that person, and the district
[28:48.640 --> 28:56.560] attorney is also breaking the law by not submitting those criminal complaints to the grand jury.
[28:56.560 --> 28:58.080] That's also a violation of law.
[28:58.080 --> 29:03.280] See, they're supposed to, the prosecutor has to get them to the grand jury.
[29:03.280 --> 29:08.920] He's required to do that by law if he's given criminal complaints against public officials,
[29:08.920 --> 29:16.080] and then you've got the sheriff, and like law enforcement officials, sheriffs and police,
[29:16.080 --> 29:21.640] I mean, you're not technically filing it with them either because then, you know, they have
[29:21.640 --> 29:23.400] some kind of a discretion.
[29:23.400 --> 29:26.480] I mean, that's just complaining, really.
[29:26.480 --> 29:30.800] I mean, filing the criminal complaint means the document has to get into the hands of
[29:30.800 --> 29:39.480] the magistrate and into the hands of the grand jury and the clerk of the court, and so we
[29:39.480 --> 29:44.440] need to find out how, I mean, on the other side, I'm going to ask Randy, you know, where
[29:44.440 --> 29:45.440] do we take this next?
[29:45.440 --> 29:50.640] I mean, you've gone to all these people, the DA, you know, these judges, I mean, do we
[29:50.640 --> 29:55.680] need to take this to a higher judge, you know, something like this to get these into the
[29:55.680 --> 29:56.680] hands of a magistrate?
[29:56.680 --> 30:01.160] Okay, we'll be right back.
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[34:09.160 --> 34:18.160] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig and our very special guest Keith Crawford.
[34:18.160 --> 34:19.160] Okay.
[34:19.160 --> 34:26.160] So Keith is discussing the situation and the chain of events with this craziness going
[34:26.160 --> 34:28.160] on in Harris County down in Houston.
[34:28.160 --> 34:36.160] And Randy, we were discussing right before the break how he's tried to file these criminal
[34:36.160 --> 34:40.160] complaints with the judge, given them to the district attorney.
[34:40.160 --> 34:45.160] Assistant DA prosecutor won't give them to the grand jury.
[34:45.160 --> 34:46.160] He's given them to the sheriff.
[34:46.160 --> 34:48.160] The sheriff isn't doing anything.
[34:48.160 --> 34:49.160] So what next?
[34:49.160 --> 34:55.160] Because technically these complaints are not filed unless they actually get into the
[34:55.160 --> 35:00.160] hands of the magistrate and the grand jury of course.
[35:00.160 --> 35:03.160] So how are we going to make this happen?
[35:03.160 --> 35:09.160] I mean now he's got charges against the prosecutor for not giving the complaints to
[35:09.160 --> 35:10.160] the grand jury.
[35:10.160 --> 35:15.160] Now he's got charges against the judge for not acting in his official capacity of a
[35:15.160 --> 35:18.160] magistrate by taking the criminal complaint.
[35:18.160 --> 35:23.160] I don't know if you can necessarily go after the sheriff, but how are we going,
[35:23.160 --> 35:27.160] where does it go next to actually get these criminal complaints into the hands of the
[35:27.160 --> 35:29.160] magistrate and the grand jury?
[35:29.160 --> 35:32.160] Does he need to try to go to the grand jury directly at this point?
[35:32.160 --> 35:34.160] What's the next step, Randy?
[35:34.160 --> 35:35.160] Absolutely.
[35:35.160 --> 35:37.160] Grand jury directly.
[35:37.160 --> 35:44.160] And what I'm suggesting now is we start going after them civilly.
[35:44.160 --> 35:47.160] Sue them personally.
[35:47.160 --> 35:49.160] Tort claims.
[35:49.160 --> 35:54.160] These are acts over which they have no discretion.
[35:54.160 --> 35:59.160] Since they have no discretion, they have no immunity.
[35:59.160 --> 36:05.160] When you start suing them personally, now you've got their attention.
[36:05.160 --> 36:10.160] And I'm writing some suits now.
[36:10.160 --> 36:14.160] I just kicked Travis County's behind.
[36:14.160 --> 36:18.160] So they took their best shot at me and they blew it.
[36:18.160 --> 36:20.160] Now it's my turn.
[36:20.160 --> 36:25.160] And I'll be coming after everybody.
[36:25.160 --> 36:31.160] In your case where everybody's in the way, they need to get a tort letter.
[36:31.160 --> 36:37.160] A notice of tort, a notice of harm, a demand to repair or be sued.
[36:37.160 --> 36:45.160] And notice the judge and the prosecutor in their personal individual capacity.
[36:45.160 --> 36:53.160] Because they acted in violation of a ministerial duty.
[36:53.160 --> 37:00.160] You maintain that their actions were in violation of criminal laws.
[37:00.160 --> 37:04.160] And therefore it's not within the scope of their duty.
[37:04.160 --> 37:06.160] Therefore they have no immunity.
[37:06.160 --> 37:11.160] So you're suing them individually in their personal capacity.
[37:11.160 --> 37:14.160] Now a public official, you have to give them 60 days notice.
[37:14.160 --> 37:18.160] These guys give them 10 days.
[37:18.160 --> 37:20.160] 10 days to repair or be sued.
[37:20.160 --> 37:22.160] They absolutely won't.
[37:22.160 --> 37:27.160] And then if I'll sue against them, that'll be a hoot.
[37:27.160 --> 37:30.160] Now you're going to get their attention.
[37:30.160 --> 37:33.160] Now they have to answer you.
[37:33.160 --> 37:40.160] They have to hire attorneys and pay their attorneys to answer you or you win by default.
[37:40.160 --> 37:45.160] Randy, that wouldn't be a claim against the county.
[37:45.160 --> 37:49.160] In other words, you wouldn't have to advise the county commissioner to give them the 60 days.
[37:49.160 --> 37:52.160] This is personal against these people in their own private act.
[37:52.160 --> 38:04.160] You're maintaining that their refusal to perform their duty had the effect of denying you in a constitutional and statutory right.
[38:04.160 --> 38:10.160] And that's an act in violation of state law, which is a criminal act.
[38:10.160 --> 38:17.160] And committing crimes is not within the scope of their authority, period.
[38:17.160 --> 38:22.160] Therefore, they are without subject matter jurisdiction.
[38:22.160 --> 38:25.160] They're without immunity of any kind.
[38:25.160 --> 38:28.160] You make this argument.
[38:28.160 --> 38:35.160] And in a civil matter of this nature, it's the rather or not they have to answer you,
[38:35.160 --> 38:40.160] rather or not they get summary judgment on the front end,
[38:40.160 --> 38:48.160] doesn't go to what you can prove up, but goes to the accusation you make.
[38:48.160 --> 38:54.160] You maintain that they have no immunity of any kind.
[38:54.160 --> 38:57.160] They're going to maintain they do.
[38:57.160 --> 39:04.160] And that goes to a disagreement over a material fact.
[39:04.160 --> 39:11.160] If there are any material facts at issue, there can be no summary judgment.
[39:11.160 --> 39:15.160] And these guys always count on summary judgment.
[39:15.160 --> 39:25.160] They don't count on someone coming in there very carefully focusing their presentation so as to avoid summary judgment.
[39:25.160 --> 39:27.160] And that's what we do in this case.
[39:27.160 --> 39:33.160] They're going to claim that a suit against a public official is a suit against the county.
[39:33.160 --> 39:44.160] And you're going to maintain that the very carefully that the public official was not acting within the scope of his official authority,
[39:44.160 --> 39:53.160] that he was actually committing malfeasance in office by refusing to act within the scope of his authority
[39:53.160 --> 39:58.160] and committing a criminal act against you of official oppression
[39:58.160 --> 40:06.160] and a criminal act against the state of shielding from prosecution.
[40:06.160 --> 40:10.160] One's a felony, one's a class A misdemeanor.
[40:10.160 --> 40:13.160] Now, they're going to have to argue.
[40:13.160 --> 40:18.160] See, the problem is that is not automatically a suit against the county.
[40:18.160 --> 40:22.160] So now they have to hire their own counsel.
[40:22.160 --> 40:24.160] You reach right into their pockets.
[40:24.160 --> 40:25.160] That's right.
[40:25.160 --> 40:33.160] Now you've got their attention and file a claim against their bonds with the county.
[40:33.160 --> 40:36.160] And that's the only claim you file with the county.
[40:36.160 --> 40:37.160] You don't sue the county.
[40:37.160 --> 40:40.160] You just file against a bond with their insurance company.
[40:40.160 --> 40:41.160] Right.
[40:41.160 --> 40:48.160] So it's just a matter of avoiding summary judgment.
[40:48.160 --> 40:50.160] Avoid summary judgment.
[40:50.160 --> 40:54.160] You get them past summary judgment, it's going to cost them a fortune.
[40:54.160 --> 40:56.160] And also I just had a quick comment here.
[40:56.160 --> 41:02.160] There was a mic from Austin on the line who said he had a comment, a question on topic.
[41:02.160 --> 41:04.160] That's what my call screener just told me.
[41:04.160 --> 41:07.160] But I see that mic has dropped off the line.
[41:07.160 --> 41:10.160] So, Mike, if you're still out there listening, please call back in.
[41:10.160 --> 41:12.160] We want to bring you into the conversation.
[41:12.160 --> 41:17.160] And other callers, listeners, if you all want to call in and comment on that, on this situation,
[41:17.160 --> 41:28.160] if you have questions or comments and you're on topic, please call in 512-646-1984.
[41:28.160 --> 41:29.160] Yes.
[41:29.160 --> 41:34.160] And this is, we have to find their weakness.
[41:34.160 --> 41:38.160] And, you know, they all protect each other.
[41:38.160 --> 41:48.160] And the idea is, is to get the ones that are protecting the chump police officers and go after them first,
[41:48.160 --> 41:50.160] the judge and the prosecutor.
[41:50.160 --> 41:54.160] You want to protect those guys because they're out there acting like idiots?
[41:54.160 --> 41:58.160] Then we come for you and end your career first.
[41:58.160 --> 42:04.160] And I would suggest file a bar grievance at every opportunity.
[42:04.160 --> 42:11.160] I have. I've filed those and I've also filed a judicial misconduct.
[42:11.160 --> 42:13.160] You keep stacking them up.
[42:13.160 --> 42:14.160] Yeah.
[42:14.160 --> 42:17.160] You know, they'll try to throw them out, but you keep stacking them up.
[42:17.160 --> 42:22.160] And after a while, they begin to say, you know, wait a minute, this could get out of hand here.
[42:22.160 --> 42:23.160] Right.
[42:23.160 --> 42:27.160] And you can actually get them stung, especially if you can get these other 30 people doing the same thing.
[42:27.160 --> 42:32.160] Well, now listen, Randy, if he can't get his criminal complaints to the grand jury,
[42:32.160 --> 42:36.160] would he try to go to a higher judge like the administrative judge in the district or something?
[42:36.160 --> 42:38.160] That's the big thing, yeah.
[42:38.160 --> 42:40.160] To try to get the criminal complaints to you?
[42:40.160 --> 42:41.160] Yes.
[42:41.160 --> 42:47.160] Now what he can do is a petition for court of inquiry.
[42:47.160 --> 42:49.160] Yes.
[42:49.160 --> 42:50.160] That's the next thing.
[42:50.160 --> 42:54.160] And the district judge is not going to act on it.
[42:54.160 --> 42:57.160] But what it's going to do is put the district judge on the dime.
[42:57.160 --> 43:06.160] Now you're accusing this judge and this prosecutor of shielding lower level officials from prosecution.
[43:06.160 --> 43:07.160] Right.
[43:07.160 --> 43:12.160] Now you come to this judge and ask him to go after those guys who are doing that.
[43:12.160 --> 43:14.160] So what's he going to do?
[43:14.160 --> 43:15.160] Same thing.
[43:15.160 --> 43:18.160] He either goes after them or he shields them from prosecution.
[43:18.160 --> 43:20.160] And of course he's going to shield them from prosecution.
[43:20.160 --> 43:22.160] Then you go after this judge.
[43:22.160 --> 43:23.160] How?
[43:23.160 --> 43:25.160] And accuse him of malfeasance.
[43:25.160 --> 43:28.160] How? But where do you file that document with?
[43:28.160 --> 43:35.160] You file a criminal charge with the district attorney against the judge for not arresting the district attorney.
[43:35.160 --> 43:40.160] And you file an appeal to the court of appeals and ask them to...
[43:40.160 --> 43:42.160] Would that be a mandamus or an appeal?
[43:42.160 --> 43:43.160] An appeal?
[43:43.160 --> 43:44.160] It would be a mandamus.
[43:44.160 --> 43:46.160] Yeah, there's nothing to appeal yet.
[43:46.160 --> 43:47.160] Hold on.
[43:47.160 --> 43:48.160] We're going to break.
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[45:26.160 --> 45:30.160] All is taken into misunderstanding.
[45:30.160 --> 45:32.160] Somebody calls the police.
[45:32.160 --> 45:39.160] Watchin' the sparks fly
[45:57.000 --> 45:59.040] This reason is in the thick and thin Mazda
[45:59.040 --> 46:01.500] Watching the sparks fly
[46:01.500 --> 46:06.300] Okay, we were discussing on the break concerning
[46:06.300 --> 46:08.980] accusing these people of crimes, malfeasance.
[46:08.980 --> 46:11.540] And Randy, you were mentioning about the next step
[46:11.540 --> 46:12.380] is the court of inquiry.
[46:12.380 --> 46:15.280] So let's pick up from there.
[46:15.280 --> 46:20.280] Yes, the idea is to avoid summary judgment.
[46:20.440 --> 46:22.740] When someone sues a public official,
[46:22.740 --> 46:25.900] they generally beat it in summary judgment.
[46:26.860 --> 46:30.380] And generally when you sue a public official,
[46:30.380 --> 46:32.420] the county picks up the tab.
[46:33.420 --> 46:37.420] So in putting together my lawsuit,
[46:37.420 --> 46:40.260] I'm looking at how can I keep the county
[46:40.260 --> 46:45.260] from picking up the tab and how can I avoid summary judgment?
[46:46.820 --> 46:49.760] Both of them go to exactly the same thing.
[46:51.020 --> 46:56.020] The officer or the official has to be accused
[46:56.020 --> 46:59.900] of acting outside the scope of his authority.
[47:01.300 --> 47:03.400] You don't have to prove that he acted
[47:03.400 --> 47:06.140] outside the scope of his authority.
[47:06.140 --> 47:08.940] You only have to claim that he acted
[47:08.940 --> 47:11.540] outside the scope of his authority.
[47:11.540 --> 47:16.160] And he's gonna say, oh no, I acted within the scope.
[47:17.500 --> 47:18.740] No summary judgment.
[47:19.980 --> 47:24.500] And then we go to because there is an allegation of-
[47:24.500 --> 47:27.620] Wait a minute, hold on, why is there no summary judgment
[47:27.620 --> 47:29.820] if you just claim he acted outside
[47:29.820 --> 47:31.260] the scope of his authority?
[47:31.260 --> 47:35.180] That's exactly what summary judgment goes to.
[47:35.180 --> 47:38.900] The only time there can be summary judgment
[47:38.900 --> 47:43.900] is when there is no question of fact between the parties.
[47:45.180 --> 47:49.540] Okay, so when you say he acted out of the scope
[47:49.540 --> 47:52.780] of his authority and he says, no I didn't,
[47:52.780 --> 47:54.820] now there's a disagreement over fact
[47:54.820 --> 47:58.020] and so now that means you can't have summary judgment.
[47:58.020 --> 48:01.540] That disagreement has to be settled in court.
[48:01.540 --> 48:04.780] If you go in and I go in and say that
[48:06.520 --> 48:09.760] the officer came out and he arrested me
[48:09.760 --> 48:11.120] and he threw me in jail.
[48:12.500 --> 48:16.440] And the officer says, yeah I arrested him
[48:16.440 --> 48:17.640] and I threw him in jail.
[48:17.640 --> 48:22.640] And I say, it was illegal for him to throw me in jail.
[48:24.960 --> 48:26.580] And he says, no it wasn't.
[48:27.780 --> 48:32.080] There is no issue of material fact in disagreement.
[48:32.080 --> 48:35.080] Everybody agrees on the facts.
[48:35.080 --> 48:38.380] So the court can look at the facts
[48:38.380 --> 48:41.000] and apply the law to the facts
[48:41.000 --> 48:42.940] and make a legal determination.
[48:42.940 --> 48:46.860] So you have to get him to disagree with you
[48:48.360 --> 48:50.260] over some material fact.
[48:50.260 --> 48:53.500] And whether or not he acted within the scope
[48:53.500 --> 48:55.760] of his authority is a material fact?
[48:56.720 --> 48:57.780] Yes.
[48:57.780 --> 49:01.240] But saying that what they did was illegal
[49:01.240 --> 49:03.080] is not a material fact?
[49:04.620 --> 49:05.460] No.
[49:05.460 --> 49:08.060] Okay, okay I'm sorry, I just wanted to clarify.
[49:08.060 --> 49:13.060] The accusing him of a criminal act.
[49:13.380 --> 49:14.220] Right, right, right.
[49:14.220 --> 49:17.060] Okay I just wanted to clarify that for the listeners
[49:17.060 --> 49:20.260] about why you get to shoot down a summary judgment.
[49:20.260 --> 49:22.320] That is a really good question
[49:22.320 --> 49:26.460] and you forced me to have to think about that real careful.
[49:26.460 --> 49:27.640] Okay, so go ahead.
[49:30.020 --> 49:31.620] Do you want to accuse about facts?
[49:31.620 --> 49:36.620] You want to accuse about things that are gray essentially?
[49:36.620 --> 49:39.300] Yeah, well, you want.
[49:39.300 --> 49:44.300] In every, in this case, all of the facts essentially
[49:47.380 --> 49:51.380] are going to be, the specific facts are going to be agreed to.
[49:55.620 --> 49:58.300] The thing that's going to be at issue
[49:59.500 --> 50:03.740] is rather or not what the individual did was a crime.
[50:03.740 --> 50:08.740] And you'll maintain that the officer had a duty
[50:10.860 --> 50:14.360] to take you directly to the nearest magistrate.
[50:15.860 --> 50:18.560] And the officer will say, no I didn't.
[50:20.300 --> 50:21.900] And you'll say, yeah you did.
[50:23.540 --> 50:25.060] That's a material fact.
[50:25.060 --> 50:27.780] Yeah and it's real easy to prove that too
[50:27.780 --> 50:30.020] because it's in the law.
[50:30.020 --> 50:33.460] It's not just like I think you should do this.
[50:33.460 --> 50:34.300] Well.
[50:34.300 --> 50:36.500] Because I think that would be better.
[50:36.500 --> 50:38.020] I mean, no, it's in law.
[50:38.020 --> 50:40.260] They're going to say there are circumstances
[50:40.260 --> 50:43.820] where I don't have to take you directly to a magistrate.
[50:43.820 --> 50:47.300] And they're going to say, well, I can hold you 24 hours
[50:47.300 --> 50:49.160] without taking you to a magistrate.
[50:49.160 --> 50:51.140] And I'm going to say, no you can't.
[50:52.940 --> 50:57.940] Not unless you can show some immediate emergency.
[50:57.940 --> 51:02.940] Yeah, that 24 hours thing doesn't give them 24 hours
[51:03.620 --> 51:05.220] to get you to a magistrate.
[51:05.220 --> 51:09.460] It just means that if they don't take you to a magistrate
[51:09.460 --> 51:12.220] within 24 hours, it's prime efficient evidence
[51:12.220 --> 51:17.220] that they didn't make every due diligent effort to do so.
[51:17.460 --> 51:20.900] They have to do it immediately.
[51:20.900 --> 51:24.660] As soon as reasonably possible.
[51:24.660 --> 51:25.500] Yes.
[51:25.500 --> 51:27.540] Not convenient, possible.
[51:27.540 --> 51:30.860] It's not like they have a timeframe.
[51:30.860 --> 51:32.100] It's not like they have a deadline
[51:32.100 --> 51:33.540] to get you to a magistrate.
[51:33.540 --> 51:35.900] They have to do it right away.
[51:35.900 --> 51:37.460] It's just that if it's 24 hours,
[51:37.460 --> 51:39.980] it's prime efficient evidence that they didn't try.
[51:39.980 --> 51:42.500] If they arrest you for participating in a riot,
[51:44.060 --> 51:46.620] then the first thing the court's going to say,
[51:46.620 --> 51:48.960] well, you know, it's a riot.
[51:48.960 --> 51:51.700] So there's a real good chance he had to arrest this guy
[51:51.700 --> 51:56.240] and cuff him and then go arrest 20 or 30 other guys
[51:56.240 --> 51:57.620] to put down this riot.
[51:57.620 --> 51:59.860] So there's probably a pretty good reason
[51:59.860 --> 52:02.380] for him not getting to a magistrate right away,
[52:02.380 --> 52:07.280] especially if it was two o'clock on a Saturday morning,
[52:07.280 --> 52:08.820] when all the magistrates are in bed
[52:08.820 --> 52:10.540] and all the drunks are on the street.
[52:10.540 --> 52:14.040] There could be circumstances where the officer
[52:14.040 --> 52:18.040] was distracted or busy, you know, fire, flood, storm.
[52:19.660 --> 52:21.380] There could be things to keep him
[52:21.380 --> 52:23.040] from being able to get you there.
[52:23.040 --> 52:28.040] The courts hold that if you're arrested without a warrant,
[52:28.940 --> 52:33.660] the presumption is that the arrest is improper.
[52:35.100 --> 52:37.940] And it is the responsibility of the officer
[52:37.940 --> 52:41.540] to get you to a magistrate and explain himself.
[52:41.540 --> 52:46.540] And if he gets you to a magistrate within the 24 hours,
[52:47.100 --> 52:50.940] the presumption is that the taking was timely.
[52:50.940 --> 52:55.740] If it was not timely, the onus is on the accused
[52:55.740 --> 52:58.060] to show why it wasn't timely.
[52:58.060 --> 53:02.060] If it's after 24 hours, the presumption is the taking
[53:02.060 --> 53:05.420] was not timely and the accused does not have
[53:05.420 --> 53:07.260] to prove anything.
[53:07.260 --> 53:11.060] The other side has to show cause for the delay.
[53:11.060 --> 53:13.140] Yeah, and not only that, when he does take you
[53:13.140 --> 53:17.100] to the magistrate, he has to go there with you
[53:17.100 --> 53:20.980] and explain himself with you present in front of you.
[53:20.980 --> 53:23.780] Any evidence against you has to be submitted
[53:23.780 --> 53:26.620] in your presence in an open court hearing
[53:26.620 --> 53:29.260] so that you can have a chance to rebut it.
[53:29.260 --> 53:34.260] And if it looks like the cop is making up a story
[53:34.540 --> 53:37.100] and there's no sufficient probable cause,
[53:37.100 --> 53:40.420] then the magistrate has to release you at your liberty
[53:40.420 --> 53:44.060] at that point before you ever get booked into the jail
[53:44.060 --> 53:46.300] and wear the orange suit and get all your things
[53:46.300 --> 53:48.620] taken away from you and sleep on the floor all night long
[53:48.620 --> 53:51.020] and all that other kind of crap and get beaten up
[53:51.020 --> 53:52.300] and humiliated.
[53:52.300 --> 53:56.140] And if he decides to set bail at that point,
[53:56.140 --> 53:58.260] if you got the money in your pocket
[53:58.260 --> 54:02.440] or can call somebody to come get the money right away,
[54:02.440 --> 54:04.700] then you post the bail right then and there
[54:04.700 --> 54:07.940] without getting booked into jail.
[54:07.940 --> 54:12.940] Okay, see the whole booking process is totally illegal.
[54:12.940 --> 54:17.300] People should never ever be booked into jail at all
[54:17.300 --> 54:21.060] unless they can't post bail
[54:21.060 --> 54:24.980] or the magistrate doesn't set bail
[54:24.980 --> 54:28.820] because the allegations are so serious.
[54:28.820 --> 54:31.140] No one should ever get booked into jail
[54:31.140 --> 54:34.540] under any other circumstances other than what I just said.
[54:34.540 --> 54:36.660] Okay, they have to take people to the magistrate.
[54:36.660 --> 54:37.860] That's why magistrates are there.
[54:37.860 --> 54:40.660] That's why this goes all the way back to the Magna Carta.
[54:40.660 --> 54:42.420] This is why the Criminal Procedure Code
[54:42.420 --> 54:44.460] is structured the way it is.
[54:44.460 --> 54:47.500] There's not supposed to be this big jailing industry.
[54:47.500 --> 54:51.980] Taking away someone's liberty is a big, big deal
[54:51.980 --> 54:53.420] and it should never be done
[54:53.420 --> 54:57.060] without thorough proper due process.
[54:57.060 --> 54:59.340] That's why things are the way they are.
[54:59.340 --> 55:02.180] You're the right guy to let those policemen
[55:02.180 --> 55:04.620] and judges and prosecutors know
[55:04.620 --> 55:06.300] that when they look out there
[55:06.300 --> 55:09.960] at a whole group of ordinary looking citizens,
[55:09.960 --> 55:13.000] they have to wonder which one.
[55:13.000 --> 55:18.000] Which one I'm gonna come kick me rot square in my legal teeth.
[55:19.520 --> 55:21.520] You know, and I'll tell y'all another thing too
[55:21.520 --> 55:25.120] when that Officer Ben called in a few months ago,
[55:25.120 --> 55:30.120] scary Officer Ben, he was arguing on the air
[55:30.800 --> 55:33.960] that, well, it would cost too much money
[55:33.960 --> 55:37.400] to have to hire magistrates and have to hire enough
[55:37.400 --> 55:39.560] and keep them on duty around the clock
[55:39.560 --> 55:43.440] in order for us to take arrested people directly to them
[55:43.440 --> 55:45.000] and I said, give me a break.
[55:45.000 --> 55:46.840] How much does the jailing industry cost?
[55:46.840 --> 55:48.400] How much does it cost to run someone
[55:48.400 --> 55:50.400] through the booking process, all the employees
[55:50.400 --> 55:52.600] and the infrastructure of the jail
[55:52.600 --> 55:54.400] and just the whole thing?
[55:54.400 --> 55:56.000] I said, give me a break.
[55:56.000 --> 55:58.760] That is hundreds of thousands of times
[55:58.760 --> 56:00.720] exponentially more expensive
[56:00.720 --> 56:02.480] than taking someone to a magistrate
[56:02.480 --> 56:04.320] and then he wanted to start arguing
[56:04.320 --> 56:07.720] about how inconvenient it would be for the cops
[56:07.720 --> 56:09.840] because then they have to sit there
[56:09.840 --> 56:12.280] and talk to the magistrate, you know,
[56:12.280 --> 56:15.880] and sort it all out when they arrest the person,
[56:15.880 --> 56:19.560] when they could be out on the beat arresting more people
[56:19.560 --> 56:24.360] and I said, taking away someone's liberty is a big deal
[56:24.360 --> 56:27.280] and it should be inconvenient for you guys.
[56:27.280 --> 56:30.840] It's not supposed to be convenient for the system
[56:30.840 --> 56:33.680] to take away people's liberties, okay?
[56:33.680 --> 56:37.680] They should be at a very strong disadvantage
[56:37.680 --> 56:40.080] and it should be a total can of worms
[56:40.080 --> 56:41.600] for them to have to do that
[56:41.600 --> 56:44.880] because almost nothing is more important than our liberty
[56:44.880 --> 56:46.120] other than our life.
[56:46.120 --> 56:49.560] I mean, this has got to stop, you know?
[56:49.560 --> 56:52.960] And I told him on the air, I said, you know what?
[56:52.960 --> 56:55.520] You get to go home to your wife and kids
[56:55.520 --> 56:58.080] after you throw some poor guy in jail
[56:58.080 --> 56:59.720] that shouldn't even be there
[56:59.720 --> 57:03.120] and you throw him in jail illegally in violation of law
[57:03.120 --> 57:05.840] without him ever being accused of a crime
[57:05.840 --> 57:08.640] and he doesn't get to go home to his wife and kids
[57:08.640 --> 57:11.120] and it's got to cost him a whole bunch of money
[57:11.120 --> 57:14.440] and he may lose work and you get to go home to your bed.
[57:14.440 --> 57:18.200] I said, I'm sorry, but you should be inconvenienced
[57:18.200 --> 57:21.280] to have to go sit in front of the magistrate for a while.
[57:21.280 --> 57:22.280] You know, too bad.
[57:22.280 --> 57:23.440] You signed up for that
[57:23.440 --> 57:25.440] when you decided to go into law enforcement.
[57:25.440 --> 57:26.880] Yeah, I mean, it means,
[57:26.880 --> 57:28.920] especially with everything that's going on right now,
[57:28.920 --> 57:32.040] I don't know if the people that are listening tonight
[57:32.040 --> 57:35.080] on the radio or online are familiar
[57:35.080 --> 57:38.040] with what happened up in Pittsburgh at this G20.
[57:38.040 --> 57:40.360] Oh, oh, God, that was, that was, that was.
[57:40.360 --> 57:42.440] I couldn't, I endeavor.
[57:42.440 --> 57:43.800] I can watch the video.
[57:43.800 --> 57:44.880] I didn't even want to watch the video.
[57:44.880 --> 57:46.080] I couldn't, I can't.
[57:46.080 --> 57:48.280] Anytime I see anything that has anything to do
[57:48.280 --> 57:50.320] with police brutality, I can't watch it.
[57:50.320 --> 57:51.400] I just cannot watch it.
[57:51.400 --> 57:52.520] I didn't watch it either.
[57:52.520 --> 57:54.720] It hurts my soul to know
[57:54.720 --> 57:56.400] this is what's going on with these people
[57:56.400 --> 57:58.840] and the people that own these cops
[57:58.840 --> 58:00.920] and that's essentially the way it is
[58:00.920 --> 58:04.920] are allowing our laws and our constitution
[58:04.920 --> 58:06.120] to just be shredded.
[58:06.120 --> 58:08.480] Absolutely, and another thing
[58:08.480 --> 58:10.000] that's highly unfortunate about that
[58:10.000 --> 58:12.440] is that the people, the victims
[58:12.440 --> 58:15.480] of that G20 police brutality incident,
[58:17.000 --> 58:18.760] a lot of them, I think in fact all of them,
[58:18.760 --> 58:20.840] they've already struck plea deals.
[58:20.840 --> 58:22.520] They're not going after these guys
[58:22.520 --> 58:23.640] with criminal complaints
[58:23.640 --> 58:25.560] because they either don't know how
[58:25.560 --> 58:27.720] or they're afraid to.
[58:27.720 --> 58:30.200] And so that's why we've got to get the message out
[58:30.200 --> 58:34.560] to everyone not to put up with this crap.
[58:34.560 --> 58:36.160] Hope it peaked in the fire.
[58:36.160 --> 58:38.520] Okay, listen, we're coming up to the top of the hour break.
[58:38.520 --> 58:40.080] Are you gonna stay with us, Keith?
[58:40.080 --> 58:40.920] Sure.
[58:40.920 --> 58:41.760] Okay, excellent.
[58:41.760 --> 58:45.600] Callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984,
[58:45.600 --> 58:48.520] give us your comments on these topics.
[58:48.520 --> 58:50.760] Have you had any experience filing criminal complaints?
[58:50.760 --> 58:51.680] Call in.
[58:51.680 --> 58:54.760] Have you suffered at the hands of the police?
[58:54.760 --> 58:56.160] Call in.
[58:56.160 --> 58:57.160] We'll be right back.
[58:57.160 --> 58:58.640] Hi, this is Norman Horn
[58:58.640 --> 59:01.080] from the UT Austin Libertarian Longhorns.
[59:01.080 --> 59:02.280] And I want to invite you
[59:02.280 --> 59:04.360] to the Students for Liberty Texas Conference
[59:04.360 --> 59:06.840] on October 24th, 2009,
[59:06.840 --> 59:10.160] located at the Thompson Conference Center on the UT campus.
[59:10.160 --> 59:12.840] We have a great lineup of speakers coming to teach you
[59:12.840 --> 59:15.360] about the fundamentals of a free society.
[59:15.360 --> 59:18.000] Speakers include Vice President of the Cato Institute,
[59:18.000 --> 59:19.680] Gene Healy as the keynote,
[59:19.680 --> 59:22.120] renowned author and activist, Mary Brewer,
[59:22.120 --> 59:24.400] and Mary Rizzo as the keynote speaker.
[59:24.400 --> 59:27.960] The renowned author and activist, Mary Brewer, and many more.
[59:27.960 --> 59:30.560] To top it off, policy groups from all over Texas
[59:30.560 --> 59:32.600] will be present for a round table discussion
[59:32.600 --> 59:34.360] about local activism.
[59:34.360 --> 59:36.400] Registration is just $10,
[59:36.400 --> 59:38.560] plus an optional fee for lunch and dinner.
[59:38.560 --> 59:40.960] For students, it's absolutely free.
[59:40.960 --> 59:42.720] But registration is required,
[59:42.720 --> 59:47.240] so go to our website at www.libertarianlonghorns.com
[59:47.240 --> 59:49.880] for more information about how to sign up.
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[59:53.720 --> 59:55.000] Support peace and freedom
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[01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:05.000] This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:09.840] In Iraq, Wednesday, 11 people were killed and 44 injured.
[01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.240] In Pakistan, Wednesday, at least four people were killed
[01:00:13.240 --> 01:00:17.040] in a US drone attack, sparking public outrage.
[01:00:17.040 --> 01:00:21.680] Pakistan's News International says only 10 out of 60 strikes
[01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:24.520] carried out by US drones in Pakistan
[01:00:24.520 --> 01:00:29.520] between January 2006 and April 2009 hit their targets,
[01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:33.240] killing 687 civilians.
[01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.040] The French magazine Le Canard Enchaîné says,
[01:00:38.040 --> 01:00:41.160] Israel has ordered high quality combat rations
[01:00:41.160 --> 01:00:43.200] from a French food manufacturer
[01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:45.440] for soldiers serving in elite units
[01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.760] and has asked reservists of those units
[01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:52.440] staying abroad to return to Israel.
[01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.560] The Iraqi government says over 85,000 Iraqis
[01:00:55.560 --> 01:01:00.560] were killed in Iraq between 2004 and 2008.
[01:01:00.560 --> 01:01:02.520] The figure is based on death certificates
[01:01:02.520 --> 01:01:04.560] issued by the Ministry of Health
[01:01:04.560 --> 01:01:08.400] and included 15,000 unidentified bodies.
[01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:12.200] Past reports gave estimates ranging from more than 100,000
[01:01:12.200 --> 01:01:14.360] to well over half a million.
[01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.840] The figures do not include the first months of the war
[01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:19.800] as there was no government to keep track.
[01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.200] The Ministry of Human Rights report said,
[01:01:22.200 --> 01:01:25.520] through the terrorist attacks like explosions, assassinations,
[01:01:25.520 --> 01:01:27.800] kidnappings, and forced displacements,
[01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.880] the outlawed groups have created these terrible figures
[01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.440] which represent a big challenge for the rule of law
[01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:36.720] and for the Iraqi people.
[01:01:36.720 --> 01:01:39.520] Iraq Body Count, a non-governmental organization
[01:01:39.520 --> 01:01:42.840] that has tracked civilian casualties since the war began,
[01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.560] puts the number of deaths at 93,500.
[01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:49.360] The reality is that amid the chaos and violence
[01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:51.120] that followed the invasion,
[01:01:51.120 --> 01:01:55.200] the true number may never be known.
[01:01:55.200 --> 01:01:57.800] The Irish government will ban the cultivation
[01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.240] of all genetically modified crops
[01:02:00.240 --> 01:02:03.360] and introduce a voluntary GM-free label
[01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:06.800] for food produced without GM animal feed.
[01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.240] The policy was agreed on between two coalition parties,
[01:02:10.240 --> 01:02:13.560] the center-right, Fianna Fail, and the Green Party.
[01:02:13.560 --> 01:02:16.280] The government will introduce a GM-free logo
[01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.360] for use in product labeling and advertising,
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[01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:55.120] OK, chant down Babylon.
[01:03:55.120 --> 01:03:57.440] That's what we're doing right now.
[01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:04.040] We're railing against the man, raging against the machine.
[01:04:04.040 --> 01:04:07.960] They take away our liberties without due process.
[01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:09.480] This cannot stand.
[01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:11.080] This can't go on.
[01:04:11.080 --> 01:04:15.880] This is why the barons took the king down to the River Thames
[01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:20.520] and nearly beheaded him unless he agreed to sign the Magna Carta
[01:04:20.520 --> 01:04:23.120] and stop the tyranny.
[01:04:23.120 --> 01:04:24.640] We've got to stop the tyranny.
[01:04:24.640 --> 01:04:31.440] So speaking of railing and being indignant,
[01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:37.000] Randy, you had a question for Keith about him being indignant over this and what this has taught him.
[01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:42.680] Yeah, this is, we were, Keith and I were talking a few days ago
[01:04:42.680 --> 01:04:48.720] and he brought up an issue that I've mentioned before on the air
[01:04:48.720 --> 01:04:53.320] about what I'm doing has cost me a lot of problem.
[01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:57.280] I've got a tooth missing at the moment.
[01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:01.600] And it happens to be right in line with a hole in my suit and a hole in my shirt pocket.
[01:05:01.600 --> 01:05:06.840] Well, you should sue him for dental fees to replace your tooth.
[01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:08.960] But it's worth it.
[01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:13.840] Like I said, sue him for the dental fees and for the pain and suffering too.
[01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:18.720] Keith, I'd like you to go back and address that issue.
[01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:20.480] My indignation.
[01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:26.400] Your indignation and your, how you feel about them now.
[01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:31.480] Okay, well, I can tell you initially, I mean, just like everyone else,
[01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:36.800] you're petrified, you know, you're scared to death because you're thinking,
[01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:42.520] I'm going to do this, I've got work to do, money to make, you know, and all this good stuff.
[01:05:42.520 --> 01:05:46.440] But I guess Randy, in my particular instance, I guess it's kind of like you, you know,
[01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.880] you were thrown in jail over a broken headlight.
[01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:54.640] And you sat there and you thought to yourself, what in the world is going on?
[01:05:54.640 --> 01:05:58.920] I mean, it's like, I'm in an episode of The Twilight Zone, you know.
[01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:03.880] And then you said, you kind of stepped through the licking glass, more or less,
[01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:09.120] and said to yourself, you know what, there is a sovereign person.
[01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:10.280] I am a sovereign person.
[01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:15.760] There are laws that protect sovereign people, you know, citizens of the United States,
[01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:20.480] the state of Texas, and it's the same way, more or less.
[01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:24.640] You have to, I think you have to get to a certain point where it's not just a traffic ticket
[01:06:24.640 --> 01:06:29.360] or maybe it's just that one last traffic ticket that you got.
[01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:34.160] And you said, that's it, that's it, no more.
[01:06:34.160 --> 01:06:38.920] And the icing on the cake for me was, and frankly, I was taken aback when those guys came
[01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:41.200] into that little place, it's just a little bitty place.
[01:06:41.200 --> 01:06:46.040] There couldn't have been 30 people in there, but they went to every person
[01:06:46.040 --> 01:06:54.080] and demanded armed police, demanded the property, the personal property
[01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:58.480] of another, of another person is what it was, essentially.
[01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:03.280] These people came in without summons, without warrant, and that's how it happened.
[01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:08.120] And they did it on private, and they did it on private property too.
[01:07:08.120 --> 01:07:10.120] And that's on private property.
[01:07:10.120 --> 01:07:14.440] And frankly, I did go to the owner and I said, we're going to nail these guys.
[01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:15.960] He said, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up.
[01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:20.520] He said, man, I got to do business in here, you know, and I said, you got to be hitting me.
[01:07:20.520 --> 01:07:23.760] I said, we can't, I said, the only way you're going to get around this,
[01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:27.840] you don't do anything, you're not breaking the law, all your licenses are paid.
[01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:32.440] If you've ever got a problem, you summon these people, there's a disturbance outside,
[01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:38.360] or TAB, if you do have a problem, it's with TABC, it's not with the Sears Department.
[01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.280] I said, I'm going to go ahead and take care of this.
[01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:45.680] And not only that, and not only that, Keith, if he wants to keep his business,
[01:07:45.680 --> 01:07:50.320] he better do something about it, otherwise the word's going to get out on the street.
[01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:53.600] Don't go in that club because the cops will harass you.
[01:07:53.600 --> 01:07:56.480] So that just doesn't even make any sense what you're saying.
[01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:02.160] And you know what, and they finally after, you know, it took this last event with myself
[01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:06.480] and this guy, and I'm just shocked that these three guys showed up again.
[01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:15.920] Apparently, because after I left on the previous encounter with all six, they knew who I was.
[01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.000] Well, they followed me.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:21.560] They probably followed me for an hour, and I finally just pulled over and got out.
[01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:25.400] I said, I just spread my hands and held my palms in the air, and I said, you know,
[01:08:25.400 --> 01:08:27.760] if you've got a problem, talk to me.
[01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:31.520] I'm not going to waste my gasoline over, you know, this is crazy.
[01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:34.880] And they just kept driving, and I sat there and I was going to wait for my buddy,
[01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.640] and they drove around three or four more times.
[01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.800] And I thought, man, you've got to be kidding me.
[01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:41.880] What is this all about?
[01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:43.400] This is just, you're just harassing me.
[01:08:43.400 --> 01:08:44.240] I don't know what you're doing.
[01:08:44.240 --> 01:08:46.080] It's about intimidation.
[01:08:46.080 --> 01:08:52.440] It's, these are psychological control techniques that are taught to them in their training
[01:08:52.440 --> 01:08:57.000] by the feds to put, to clamp down on the public.
[01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:01.480] Right. So I just, like I said, that was the linchpin for me pretty much.
[01:09:01.480 --> 01:09:07.000] I mean, that started it in this last go around, and, you know, you put two
[01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.440] and two together, and you're saying, this is it.
[01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:11.360] This is it.
[01:09:11.360 --> 01:09:14.680] You just, you just get, you're just fed up.
[01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:18.120] You know, I mean, my gosh, it's, you know, I've talked to a lot of people,
[01:09:18.120 --> 01:09:22.320] a lot of people that are very, very pro-constitution and pro-law,
[01:09:22.320 --> 01:09:25.000] and they're saying, we've got to do something.
[01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:29.000] Well, this is, this is the something that we've got to start, that we've got to, you know,
[01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:31.360] this is the way that we have to hit.
[01:09:31.360 --> 01:09:32.760] This is the only way to go about it.
[01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:36.480] Like you said, there are people, there are people that have created their own courts,
[01:09:36.480 --> 01:09:39.280] and they have gun battles with federal agents.
[01:09:39.280 --> 01:09:40.680] We've got a really good court system.
[01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.800] We've got an excellent, we've got excellent laws in the state of Texas.
[01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:46.440] You know, they're very, very good.
[01:09:46.440 --> 01:09:48.840] They're very fair, but they're not followed.
[01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.880] They're not followed by the people that count most, and that's the judges
[01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:55.120] and these deputies and the prosecutors.
[01:09:55.120 --> 01:09:57.200] I don't have anything in my file.
[01:09:57.200 --> 01:10:03.400] I've got an information signed by an assistant district attorney in a bonding document.
[01:10:03.400 --> 01:10:04.040] That's what I have.
[01:10:04.040 --> 01:10:08.000] You haven't even been charged with a crime.
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:17.800] And I've spent $1,500 on a cash bond, and, you know, and in my time, in my effort.
[01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:24.480] But I've got to tell you, in all honesty, it has been one tremendous education so far,
[01:10:24.480 --> 01:10:28.680] and it's given me resources and tools that I'm utilizing.
[01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:33.920] There's not that much, there's not really a whole lot to it, you know,
[01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.320] because you can always reference.
[01:10:36.320 --> 01:10:39.240] I'm not one of those people that I can just, I'm not like Rainey.
[01:10:39.240 --> 01:10:41.640] Rainey can just pull it right out of a, right out of a sock.
[01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:43.280] I can't do that.
[01:10:43.280 --> 01:10:48.080] But if I've got it, I mean, I can sit down and write, you know, 50 pages worth of notes,
[01:10:48.080 --> 01:10:52.200] and I know how to reference everything, and I can always get back to it if I need it,
[01:10:52.200 --> 01:10:55.160] because I know where to go, you know.
[01:10:55.160 --> 01:10:59.880] Yeah, and Keith, just like you said a minute ago, we have excellent laws here.
[01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:04.800] I mean, the fundamental structure of the government
[01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:08.320] and like the criminal procedure code is excellent law.
[01:11:08.320 --> 01:11:13.120] Now, I agree that there are some bad laws, like prohibition and all these kinds of things.
[01:11:13.120 --> 01:11:18.080] Okay, those are bad laws, or, you know, what libertarians would say are bad laws,
[01:11:18.080 --> 01:11:22.120] a lot of regulation and licensing and all this kind of thing.
[01:11:22.120 --> 01:11:23.240] Yes, I agree.
[01:11:23.240 --> 01:11:23.920] That's unnecessary.
[01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:24.640] That's a bad law.
[01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:30.240] But as far as the structure of the government itself and their duties that are outlined,
[01:11:30.240 --> 01:11:32.000] it's actually very good.
[01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:34.160] We don't need a new system.
[01:11:34.160 --> 01:11:38.840] The system doesn't have any fundamental flaws in and of itself.
[01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:41.080] It's broken because they're breaking the law.
[01:11:41.080 --> 01:11:41.640] Exactly.
[01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:47.000] You know, and Keith, I was going to ask you, so how do you, how do you feel now, you know?
[01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.040] I feel empowered.
[01:11:49.040 --> 01:11:50.160] Yes.
[01:11:50.160 --> 01:11:51.720] That's the whole thing in a nutshell.
[01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:55.560] I walk in there, obviously, I'm still, you're obviously a little antsy.
[01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:00.640] But I know that, and here's the thing, and Randy knows this.
[01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:07.480] You get the law on your side, and Dr., Mr. Durst, dictionary, this is something I just
[01:12:07.480 --> 01:12:10.240] caught on, just one of his ads I think was on YouTube.
[01:12:10.240 --> 01:12:14.880] He said, your job is to get orders.
[01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.880] You make demands of these people.
[01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:18.120] Make demands of these people.
[01:12:18.120 --> 01:12:20.440] Make them do their job.
[01:12:20.440 --> 01:12:28.600] Do everything, use every utility, use every resource that's available to you, you know,
[01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:30.640] as a remedy.
[01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.400] You know, that's how you, that's how you do it.
[01:12:32.400 --> 01:12:34.600] You make orders.
[01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:39.320] And you're always, always going towards your, you know, you're always going towards jurisdiction.
[01:12:39.320 --> 01:12:41.080] That's the whole thing.
[01:12:41.080 --> 01:12:47.000] Jurisdiction in personum and subject matter jurisdiction, primarily.
[01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.560] And Randy, you know, I wouldn't know that without Randy Chilton.
[01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:51.560] But anyway.
[01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:58.200] Yeah, and I also will add, people need to keep video cameras on them at all times.
[01:12:58.200 --> 01:13:01.760] And most people's cell phones these days will take video.
[01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:07.560] So if you don't have enough memory, you know, usually the memory chip that it comes with
[01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:12.320] doesn't have very much, get another memory chip for your cell phone, people.
[01:13:12.320 --> 01:13:13.400] Take videos.
[01:13:13.400 --> 01:13:17.680] Anytime you see anything like this happening, take videos.
[01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:20.640] Call 9-1-1 and break out your camcorder.
[01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:21.640] That's what we do.
[01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:30.000] And what I suggest also, I think is a good strategy, is get, break it up.
[01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.200] Have, I mean, everybody needs to take videos.
[01:13:32.200 --> 01:13:37.800] But there needs to be some people that are taking videos that have not called 9-1-1 that
[01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:41.240] kind of try to stay out of the fray a little bit.
[01:13:41.240 --> 01:13:45.240] Because if you're the only one taking a video and you're also involved in the fray and you're
[01:13:45.240 --> 01:13:50.680] the one calling 9-1-1 too, then they may come after you and take your camera, your phone
[01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:51.680] and break it.
[01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:57.400] And so there needs to be some people taking video that kind of back off from the fray
[01:13:57.400 --> 01:14:03.980] and try to not be involved and not let themselves get embroiled and entangled in what's going
[01:14:03.980 --> 01:14:09.480] on at all, if possible, so that they can hold on to that video.
[01:14:09.480 --> 01:14:22.360] I was watching this debacle in Pittsburgh and three or four policemen were, was arresting
[01:14:22.360 --> 01:14:25.000] one individual.
[01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:33.400] And it was remarkable because they could hardly move for cameras in their faces.
[01:14:33.400 --> 01:14:36.840] Everywhere they turned, there were cameras everywhere.
[01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:43.400] And the police were obviously extremely annoyed with all those cameras.
[01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:47.360] But not one of them struck out at one of those cameras.
[01:14:47.360 --> 01:14:54.240] Not one of them said anything to any of them other than to not get too close.
[01:14:54.240 --> 01:14:57.440] You could see the officers looking at these cameras and cringing.
[01:14:57.440 --> 01:15:02.240] Oh yeah, it happened at the rainbows, they were trying to hide their badges.
[01:15:02.240 --> 01:15:08.240] They're traipsing through kiddie village, not using the trails, you know, stumbling
[01:15:08.240 --> 01:15:13.280] around people's tents and making little kids cry and all this kind of stuff.
[01:15:13.280 --> 01:15:19.800] And they're videotaping, you know, families with their children, I mean, give me a break.
[01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:25.200] And everyone else has got cameras in their faces and they're trying to hide their badges
[01:15:25.200 --> 01:15:30.760] and hide their faces and they're pulling their hats down over their forehead and their eyes
[01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:35.440] and wearing dark sunglasses, it's like they want to videotape us and everything we do
[01:15:35.440 --> 01:15:39.240] but they don't want us even knowing who they are, getting them on camera.
[01:15:39.240 --> 01:15:41.920] Well, too bad because everyone there had cameras.
[01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:45.600] I mean, just like the year before when they started pepper spraying,
[01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:52.280] rubber-bulleting children, tear-gassing children, again, you know, with the soft targets.
[01:15:52.280 --> 01:15:58.160] I mean, you should have seen, there were thousands of cell phones that went up with their cameras.
[01:15:58.160 --> 01:15:59.480] That's insane.
[01:15:59.480 --> 01:16:02.000] We've got to videotape these people.
[01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.760] We've got to go after them.
[01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:07.360] We can't let them intimidate us like this.
[01:16:07.360 --> 01:16:11.080] You know, if it's just one night a week, just, you know, they're on patrol, we're on patrol.
[01:16:11.080 --> 01:16:17.000] We need to have people, just people that are in areas, you know, like the area,
[01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.960] this is not this area down, this is a good area over here.
[01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:26.560] This part of town is West Houston, Northwest and West Houston and it's a good area.
[01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:31.440] But it's just like every other metropolitan area.
[01:16:31.440 --> 01:16:32.680] We saw it in Hardin County.
[01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:34.720] I guess now they have a huge police force.
[01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:37.000] They don't have anybody, they have 3,000 people.
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:44.200] But all these after 9-11 now, and I knew it, every police department exploded in size.
[01:16:44.200 --> 01:16:45.600] All right, well listen, we're going to break.
[01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:49.160] Callers, the call board's been awful quiet tonight.
[01:16:49.160 --> 01:16:51.480] I know Mike from Austin called in a little while ago.
[01:16:51.480 --> 01:16:55.560] Mike, if you'd like to call back in, callers, 512-646-1984.
[01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:57.520] Let us know what you think about these things.
[01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:01.200] We'll be right back.
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[01:18:51.440 --> 01:19:02.440] Okay, we are back. We're here with Keith Crawford, our special guest.
[01:19:02.440 --> 01:19:10.440] And Randy, we were discussing on the break that maybe we should just quickly walk through due process.
[01:19:10.440 --> 01:19:15.440] We talked about some of it before, about how they have to take you directly to a magistrate and all these things.
[01:19:15.440 --> 01:19:24.440] You know, the magistrate is required to submit the documents of the examining trial directly to the clerk of the court,
[01:19:24.440 --> 01:19:32.440] generally the prosecutor, you know, thiefs it along the way, you know, squeezes you for a deal before he even files the documents,
[01:19:32.440 --> 01:19:37.440] you know, all these sorts of things, how they're breaking the law every step of the way.
[01:19:37.440 --> 01:19:40.440] So we do have Dan in Connecticut, by the way.
[01:19:40.440 --> 01:19:43.440] Do you want to take Dan before we start going through due process?
[01:19:43.440 --> 01:19:45.440] Okay, all right, let's take Dan.
[01:19:45.440 --> 01:19:47.440] Dan Reel from Connecticut, thanks for calling in.
[01:19:47.440 --> 01:19:50.440] What's your comments on these issues tonight?
[01:19:50.440 --> 01:19:52.440] A little bit of frustration.
[01:19:52.440 --> 01:20:01.440] I believe I called in with this case, and basically it's a situation where they violated due process about six ways from Sunday.
[01:20:01.440 --> 01:20:04.440] It didn't bring them directly to a judge the whole nine yards.
[01:20:04.440 --> 01:20:12.440] And I'm asking these questions really out of frustration just to find out why on, you know, God's green earth he'd go to this stuff before that.
[01:20:12.440 --> 01:20:15.440] So my questions are this in case you know.
[01:20:15.440 --> 01:20:21.440] A, is there anything anywhere that's written that if you file motions you're contracting with the court?
[01:20:21.440 --> 01:20:29.440] And B, do you know of any possible way you could give anyone power of attorney just by being in court in and of itself?
[01:20:29.440 --> 01:20:35.440] I'm really just trying to, you know, give them the benefit of the doubt here, you know,
[01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:39.440] because he's going to that for subject matter.
[01:20:39.440 --> 01:20:45.440] I would like to address the contracting with the court, and then I'll let Randy go.
[01:20:45.440 --> 01:20:49.440] If the court has jurisdiction, they have jurisdiction.
[01:20:49.440 --> 01:20:50.440] If they don't, they don't.
[01:20:50.440 --> 01:20:57.440] You can't give it to them, and you can't take it away from them either by filing motions.
[01:20:57.440 --> 01:20:59.440] If they have jurisdiction over you, they do.
[01:20:59.440 --> 01:21:03.440] If they don't, they don't, and that's just the way it is really.
[01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:09.440] It's a bunch of hogwash to say don't go to your, don't respond to the subpoena.
[01:21:09.440 --> 01:21:13.440] It's ridiculous to say don't go to the hearing because you're giving the court jurisdiction.
[01:21:13.440 --> 01:21:14.440] No, you're not.
[01:21:14.440 --> 01:21:21.440] So I mean people, if you just do nothing, if they're after you and you do nothing and file no motions with the court
[01:21:21.440 --> 01:21:26.440] because you think you're contracting with them or giving them jurisdiction, that's really not the way it is.
[01:21:26.440 --> 01:21:27.440] So anyway, that's my comment.
[01:21:27.440 --> 01:21:30.440] Randy, go ahead.
[01:21:30.440 --> 01:21:32.440] Precisely.
[01:21:32.440 --> 01:21:43.440] You can give them in personam jurisdiction by waiving it, but you cannot give them subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:21:43.440 --> 01:21:51.440] However, if you act like they have subject matter jurisdiction, even if they don't,
[01:21:51.440 --> 01:22:01.440] and they act like they have subject matter jurisdiction, they will adjudicate a case against you just as if they did.
[01:22:01.440 --> 01:22:09.440] So while you can't give them subject matter jurisdiction, if you don't raise the issue, it doesn't become an issue.
[01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:16.440] So always the first thing you want to do is question subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:22:16.440 --> 01:22:27.440] Has anyone in the process of the prosecution of this crime up to this point violated a law relating to their office
[01:22:27.440 --> 01:22:33.440] that had the effect of denying you in the due course of the laws?
[01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:37.440] If they have, they lost subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:43.440] Due process violation, you have a right to dismissal, but you have to raise it.
[01:22:43.440 --> 01:22:50.440] So if you don't know what it is, you're not going to know how to raise it.
[01:22:50.440 --> 01:22:57.440] Keith, in this instance, where all these police come in and started asking for IDs.
[01:22:57.440 --> 01:23:02.440] Now, I won't get arrested over not giving an ID.
[01:23:02.440 --> 01:23:08.440] Well, not intentionally. I kind of did back there at the Secretary of State's office.
[01:23:08.440 --> 01:23:12.440] But I will always object.
[01:23:12.440 --> 01:23:15.440] Tell them I don't want to give you an ID.
[01:23:15.440 --> 01:23:21.440] And if they ask this question, why you got something to hide? I said, no, I think you guys are a bunch of thieves and liars,
[01:23:21.440 --> 01:23:29.440] and I'm afraid you'll steal my ID, my identity, and go out and take my credit card and use it at the grocery store.
[01:23:29.440 --> 01:23:35.440] And I hope it hurts their feelings. It doesn't matter if it hurts your feelings or not.
[01:23:35.440 --> 01:23:41.440] If you don't assert a right, the courts hold that you waive it.
[01:23:41.440 --> 01:23:46.440] Now, you don't have to raise a major objection to giving them ID.
[01:23:46.440 --> 01:23:52.440] Just let them know that you're not doing it voluntarily.
[01:23:52.440 --> 01:23:58.440] And in every case, you have to assert every right.
[01:23:58.440 --> 01:24:09.440] If you are arrested, first thing you say, take me directly to the nearest magistrate.
[01:24:09.440 --> 01:24:18.440] If they ask you a question, your answer is, take me directly to the nearest magistrate.
[01:24:18.440 --> 01:24:21.440] Well, what are you doing here? Take me to the nearest magistrate.
[01:24:21.440 --> 01:24:26.440] That's what I did when they arrested me in Travis County.
[01:24:26.440 --> 01:24:30.440] Anytime they asked me a question after they arrested me, take me to the nearest magistrate.
[01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:36.440] Before they arrested me, I told them to beat it, scram, get lost. I don't want to talk to you.
[01:24:36.440 --> 01:24:39.440] And that's a certain right.
[01:24:39.440 --> 01:24:48.440] In the case of Keith here, Keith, did the officers question anyone?
[01:24:48.440 --> 01:24:51.440] On August 6th or there about?
[01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:53.440] Yeah, when they came into the...
[01:24:53.440 --> 01:25:01.440] No, no, no. They just, they said, ID now. Essentially, ID or you're going to jail.
[01:25:01.440 --> 01:25:03.440] That would have got a 911 call.
[01:25:03.440 --> 01:25:07.440] I mean, we talked about that thereafter.
[01:25:07.440 --> 01:25:12.440] You know, you're so absolutely shocked. I'm shocked.
[01:25:12.440 --> 01:25:17.440] I mean, I'm explored because we're sitting here, you know, we're doing the music and everything's going great.
[01:25:17.440 --> 01:25:23.440] We're having a good time. And all of a sudden, you know, it's like this huge dark pile rolled in.
[01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:27.440] You're talking with a breach of the peace.
[01:25:27.440 --> 01:25:28.440] I'm sorry?
[01:25:28.440 --> 01:25:31.440] They should be charged with a breach of the peace.
[01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:35.440] Yeah, there were four or five. That's six.
[01:25:35.440 --> 01:25:36.440] That would be six.
[01:25:36.440 --> 01:25:37.440] That's four.
[01:25:37.440 --> 01:25:47.440] That would have got, I was going to do a television interview with Deborah and some folks she knows.
[01:25:47.440 --> 01:25:51.440] And I got pulled over because a drunk came over and asked me for money.
[01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:55.440] And I asked him directions and gave him a quarter.
[01:25:55.440 --> 01:25:59.440] And they pulled me over claiming they thought I was buying drugs.
[01:25:59.440 --> 01:26:03.440] And I was on the phone asking directions and I told him I might be a little late.
[01:26:03.440 --> 01:26:08.440] I got pulled over by a couple of jackass police officers.
[01:26:08.440 --> 01:26:12.440] And the officer heard me call him that.
[01:26:12.440 --> 01:26:15.440] And he got his feelings hurt.
[01:26:15.440 --> 01:26:20.440] Wound up. They had me stand on the side of the road.
[01:26:20.440 --> 01:26:22.440] He's going to put me in cuffs, my own safety.
[01:26:22.440 --> 01:26:26.440] Well, first thing I did was took out my cell phone and dialed 911.
[01:26:26.440 --> 01:26:28.440] He told me to put that down.
[01:26:28.440 --> 01:26:30.440] I told him screw you.
[01:26:30.440 --> 01:26:34.440] And he ripped it out of my hand and threw it down.
[01:26:34.440 --> 01:26:40.440] Well, it's a felony to interfere with a 911 call.
[01:26:40.440 --> 01:26:41.440] It's a felony?
[01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:43.440] Yep.
[01:26:43.440 --> 01:26:44.440] Really?
[01:26:44.440 --> 01:26:50.440] Yeah, if someone's trying to call 911 on you and you interfere with them, that's a felony all on its own.
[01:26:50.440 --> 01:26:52.440] Oh, no. I didn't realize that.
[01:26:52.440 --> 01:26:53.440] I didn't either.
[01:26:53.440 --> 01:26:54.440] Wow.
[01:26:54.440 --> 01:26:59.440] And this is a relatively recent law.
[01:26:59.440 --> 01:27:03.440] And the cops don't know, you know, they hate it when you call the police on them.
[01:27:03.440 --> 01:27:08.440] Well, listen, listen, we have another caller on the line, also Deloitte from Idaho.
[01:27:08.440 --> 01:27:11.440] Dan, do you have anything else for us?
[01:27:11.440 --> 01:27:13.440] Yeah, I just wanted to keep it brief.
[01:27:13.440 --> 01:27:21.440] I was wondering why on God's green earth would people even think that they're contracting with the court for filing motions
[01:27:21.440 --> 01:27:27.440] or think that they have given power of attorney without even raising the issue of subject matter jurisdiction?
[01:27:27.440 --> 01:27:30.440] I'm kind of pulling my hair out trying to figure out where this is coming
[01:27:30.440 --> 01:27:34.440] and how this is just distracting people from such a basic thing.
[01:27:34.440 --> 01:27:41.440] Well, because a lot of these commercial guys, they think, you know, they say everything is commercial.
[01:27:41.440 --> 01:27:42.440] It's all commercial.
[01:27:42.440 --> 01:27:44.440] And the courts are corporations and all that stuff.
[01:27:44.440 --> 01:27:45.440] Well, that's true.
[01:27:45.440 --> 01:27:46.440] They have EIN numbers.
[01:27:46.440 --> 01:27:47.440] They are corporations.
[01:27:47.440 --> 01:27:55.440] But just because they've incorporated themselves and just because they do function on a commercial level in some levels,
[01:27:55.440 --> 01:28:01.440] that doesn't mean that they're not also constitutionally created statutory courts
[01:28:01.440 --> 01:28:07.440] and that the officers that function in those courts are not constitutional officers.
[01:28:07.440 --> 01:28:09.440] They still are constitutional courts.
[01:28:09.440 --> 01:28:11.440] They just happen to also be commercial.
[01:28:11.440 --> 01:28:20.440] So it actually gives us an advantage that we can, you know, use certain techniques in commercial law
[01:28:20.440 --> 01:28:26.440] to use as leverage against them when they don't do things like accepting our criminal complaints.
[01:28:26.440 --> 01:28:28.440] We can file liens against their bonds.
[01:28:28.440 --> 01:28:33.440] You know, we can file claims against their liability insurance as a public servant.
[01:28:33.440 --> 01:28:41.440] You know, those kinds of things we can use as other techniques to get them to behave.
[01:28:41.440 --> 01:28:44.440] But it doesn't mean that they're not statutory courts.
[01:28:44.440 --> 01:28:47.440] So it's not like they're totally a private entity.
[01:28:47.440 --> 01:28:50.440] They still are a constitutional court.
[01:28:50.440 --> 01:28:51.440] Right.
[01:28:51.440 --> 01:28:57.440] And you've got to understand the government, disinformation is a primary tool.
[01:28:57.440 --> 01:29:06.440] So I have no doubt but what a lot of these guys out here proposing this preposterous stuff are government plans.
[01:29:06.440 --> 01:29:10.440] You know, we need to get Joe Edwards back on the air as a guest, Randy,
[01:29:10.440 --> 01:29:19.440] because he has some techniques of somehow managing to stay out of the court's jurisdiction
[01:29:19.440 --> 01:29:23.440] somehow using certain commercial techniques.
[01:29:23.440 --> 01:29:25.440] Remember he was explaining all of this at one point?
[01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:29.440] Yes, he was very good and I very much would like to have him back on the air.
[01:29:29.440 --> 01:29:33.440] And also you can't just import commercial law into a criminal court
[01:29:33.440 --> 01:29:37.440] unless the court agrees to let you import it.
[01:29:37.440 --> 01:29:45.440] And Joe Edwards has somehow managed to be able to get judges to agree to let him import commercial law into their criminal courts.
[01:29:45.440 --> 01:29:49.440] And so we need to have him back on the air to go over that.
[01:29:49.440 --> 01:29:51.440] Okay, anything else, Dan?
[01:29:51.440 --> 01:29:52.440] No, that'll be it.
[01:29:52.440 --> 01:29:55.440] Okay, we'll take Deloitte from Idaho and we get back on the other side.
[01:29:55.440 --> 01:29:56.440] This is the rule of law.
[01:29:56.440 --> 01:30:00.440] We'll be right back.
[01:30:00.440 --> 01:30:05.440] Are you tired of being pulled over before you can find the time to get your registration or insurance renewed,
[01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:07.440] resulting in traffic tickets, fines and court appearances?
[01:30:07.440 --> 01:30:09.440] Well, we can help.
[01:30:09.440 --> 01:30:11.440] This is Eddie Craig from ruleoflawradio.com.
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[01:31:24.440 --> 01:31:49.440] Thank you.
[01:31:49.440 --> 01:32:17.440] Thank you.
[01:32:17.440 --> 01:32:42.440] Okay, we are back.
[01:32:42.440 --> 01:32:48.440] This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig,
[01:32:48.440 --> 01:32:53.440] and we are going to take our next caller now, Deloitte in Idaho.
[01:32:53.440 --> 01:32:55.440] Deloitte, thanks for calling in.
[01:32:55.440 --> 01:32:57.440] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:32:57.440 --> 01:33:03.440] Well, you were talking about cameras, and I have a personal experience.
[01:33:03.440 --> 01:33:08.440] I don't know if you guys remember me, but back in May of 2008,
[01:33:08.440 --> 01:33:12.440] I was tased because I was riding a bicycle without a headlight.
[01:33:12.440 --> 01:33:13.440] What?
[01:33:13.440 --> 01:33:15.440] Oh, that's you, yes.
[01:33:15.440 --> 01:33:18.440] They tased you for not having a headlight on your bicycle?
[01:33:18.440 --> 01:33:22.440] I mean, did they tase you while you were actually on the bicycle?
[01:33:22.440 --> 01:33:23.440] No.
[01:33:23.440 --> 01:33:24.440] Okay.
[01:33:24.440 --> 01:33:25.440] No.
[01:33:25.440 --> 01:33:30.440] What they did is they were conducting a routine traffic stop, and they were done.
[01:33:30.440 --> 01:33:32.440] And it was just a block away from my house.
[01:33:32.440 --> 01:33:35.440] And I had stopped in the center of the intersection,
[01:33:35.440 --> 01:33:38.440] and when I saw that they were going back to their cruisers,
[01:33:38.440 --> 01:33:43.440] they had harassed those people and arrested one of the people out of the car.
[01:33:43.440 --> 01:33:51.440] And this one cop, when he saw me, he just honed in like a missile.
[01:33:51.440 --> 01:33:56.440] You can see this in the dash cam video from the cop car.
[01:33:56.440 --> 01:34:02.440] And there was one of the neighbors that was videotaping.
[01:34:02.440 --> 01:34:06.440] That officer told me to stop, and then he walked up to me and he said,
[01:34:06.440 --> 01:34:08.440] show me some ID.
[01:34:08.440 --> 01:34:11.440] And I asked him, am I under investigation for a crime?
[01:34:11.440 --> 01:34:15.440] And he, you know, like a schoolyard bully, he said, yes, you are.
[01:34:15.440 --> 01:34:18.440] And I said, I need my assistant counsel.
[01:34:18.440 --> 01:34:21.440] Then they proceeded to try to threaten me.
[01:34:21.440 --> 01:34:26.440] They said, well, if you don't tell us who you are, no, they kept demanding identification.
[01:34:26.440 --> 01:34:29.440] They never asked me who I was.
[01:34:29.440 --> 01:34:31.440] And he said, I'm going to take you to jail.
[01:34:31.440 --> 01:34:33.440] And I said, well, show me the warrant.
[01:34:33.440 --> 01:34:34.440] Show me the affidavit.
[01:34:34.440 --> 01:34:35.440] Let's go.
[01:34:35.440 --> 01:34:39.440] And the one officer said, well, we don't do things like that.
[01:34:39.440 --> 01:34:45.440] And so one of them tried to grab a hold of me, and I pulled my hand away from him,
[01:34:45.440 --> 01:34:50.440] and then he grabbed it more forcefully, and I wouldn't let him twist it up behind my back.
[01:34:50.440 --> 01:34:53.440] And the other officer come over and they tripped me to the ground.
[01:34:53.440 --> 01:35:00.440] And then while I was on the ground being held down by two guys, they caved me.
[01:35:00.440 --> 01:35:05.440] And both of them jumped away, and when one of them jumped away, he dropped his mag light.
[01:35:05.440 --> 01:35:11.440] And I grabbed his mag light, and I tried to get them both away from me with that mag light,
[01:35:11.440 --> 01:35:14.440] and I held them off for about 10 or 15 minutes.
[01:35:14.440 --> 01:35:20.440] And it ended up I was tased seven times that night and taken to jail.
[01:35:20.440 --> 01:35:29.440] I ended up pleading guilty to disturbing the peace, loud and unusual noise, which I was guilty of it.
[01:35:29.440 --> 01:35:31.440] I was trying to make noise.
[01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:39.440] I wanted witnesses, and they charged me with battery on an officer,
[01:35:39.440 --> 01:35:46.440] two counts of aggravated assault, and one count of failure to comply.
[01:35:46.440 --> 01:35:51.440] And I ended up getting rid of all those and pleading guilty,
[01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:56.440] and all I had was a course cost of $75.
[01:35:56.440 --> 01:36:03.440] And now I've got a bar-card attorney who has filed charges against the City of Coeur d'Alene,
[01:36:03.440 --> 01:36:12.440] the Coeur d'Alene Police Department, and nine of their officers under the federal court
[01:36:12.440 --> 01:36:19.440] for deprivation of constitutional rights under color of law.
[01:36:19.440 --> 01:36:23.440] I've got five charges against them.
[01:36:23.440 --> 01:36:26.440] And I can't really talk very much about it,
[01:36:26.440 --> 01:36:31.440] but what I would like to do is I would like to give out my name,
[01:36:31.440 --> 01:36:35.440] and if you Google my name, the first five or six things that come up,
[01:36:35.440 --> 01:36:38.440] and you'll be able to watch the video.
[01:36:38.440 --> 01:36:40.440] It's really important.
[01:36:40.440 --> 01:36:48.440] I would have probably died that night had not one of the neighbors been out there videotaping
[01:36:48.440 --> 01:36:52.440] and making it very well known that he was there videotaping.
[01:36:52.440 --> 01:36:55.440] Wow. Wow.
[01:36:55.440 --> 01:36:57.440] I mean, this was happening all over the country.
[01:36:57.440 --> 01:37:00.440] This was not an isolated incident.
[01:37:00.440 --> 01:37:05.440] And they pick on people with bicycles in Coeur d'Alene here without headlights on them.
[01:37:05.440 --> 01:37:09.440] They use that for a reason, to stop and identify you.
[01:37:09.440 --> 01:37:13.440] And when he asked for identification, I just refused to give it to him.
[01:37:13.440 --> 01:37:15.440] I don't have to.
[01:37:15.440 --> 01:37:23.440] I did find out, however, that if they ask for your name, you are required to answer.
[01:37:23.440 --> 01:37:28.440] Are we required to give our name in Texas, Randy?
[01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:35.440] New law, I have to check, is supposed to go into when it affects September.
[01:37:35.440 --> 01:37:36.440] Yes, you do.
[01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:38.440] You know, see, I don't agree with that law,
[01:37:38.440 --> 01:37:45.440] because if we are not required to identify ourselves unless we're under arrest,
[01:37:45.440 --> 01:37:48.440] then we shouldn't have to say what our name is either,
[01:37:48.440 --> 01:37:50.440] because that's identifying yourself.
[01:37:50.440 --> 01:37:51.440] So what the heck?
[01:37:51.440 --> 01:37:53.440] Well, that's where the law changed.
[01:37:53.440 --> 01:37:56.440] I think the law won't stand up to constitutional muster.
[01:37:56.440 --> 01:37:57.440] Good.
[01:37:57.440 --> 01:37:59.440] But until it's challenged, it stands.
[01:37:59.440 --> 01:38:00.440] Right. Okay.
[01:38:00.440 --> 01:38:01.440] Go ahead, Deloitte.
[01:38:01.440 --> 01:38:03.440] Well, they call it the Terry stop.
[01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:10.440] But the most important thing I want to get across to the audience is that as soon as you are asked for your
[01:38:10.440 --> 01:38:17.440] identification, you immediately ask them if you are under investigation for a crime.
[01:38:17.440 --> 01:38:21.440] Or if you're not under investigation for a crime, am I free to go?
[01:38:21.440 --> 01:38:23.440] If you're not free to go, then you're under arrest,
[01:38:23.440 --> 01:38:27.440] and you're entitled to assistance of counsel before being questioned.
[01:38:27.440 --> 01:38:32.440] And when they continue to try to question you after that, they're violating the law.
[01:38:32.440 --> 01:38:37.440] Everything was null and void from, you know, from that point on.
[01:38:37.440 --> 01:38:42.440] They're violating the law, and they can be arrested for what they're doing.
[01:38:42.440 --> 01:38:50.440] In order to perform a Terry stop, they must have articulatable probable cause.
[01:38:50.440 --> 01:38:53.440] Yes, they had none. They had none.
[01:38:53.440 --> 01:38:54.440] Well, wait a minute.
[01:38:54.440 --> 01:38:58.440] Was the probable cause that you didn't have a headlight?
[01:38:58.440 --> 01:39:00.440] Were you riding the bike at night?
[01:39:00.440 --> 01:39:03.440] I was riding the bike at night.
[01:39:03.440 --> 01:39:07.440] But you can see the second officer walk over to the front of the bicycle,
[01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:11.440] and he points down and he says, you don't have a headlight.
[01:39:11.440 --> 01:39:12.440] Get off your bike.
[01:39:12.440 --> 01:39:18.440] Well, is it traffic code that you're required to have a headlight to ride the bicycle at night?
[01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:24.440] No, it's some municipal code, which, as far as I'm concerned, has no bearing on me.
[01:39:24.440 --> 01:39:28.440] Wouldn't that be probable cause for a Terry stop, Randy,
[01:39:28.440 --> 01:39:31.440] if it appears he's violating some traffic ordinance?
[01:39:31.440 --> 01:39:33.440] Yes.
[01:39:33.440 --> 01:39:36.440] Okay, then I don't think you can stand on that, Deloitte.
[01:39:36.440 --> 01:39:42.440] If you're violating traffic ordinance, that's probable cause to get pulled over for Terry stop.
[01:39:42.440 --> 01:39:48.440] You see, they question anybody they come in contact with.
[01:39:48.440 --> 01:39:52.440] They do not waste an opportunity to try to put somebody in jail.
[01:39:52.440 --> 01:39:58.440] Here in Coeur d'Alene, there have been claims that the cops, on some nights,
[01:39:58.440 --> 01:40:03.440] they have contests to see how many people they can arrest.
[01:40:03.440 --> 01:40:07.440] They want to see who can arrest the most people in that night.
[01:40:07.440 --> 01:40:10.440] Oh, that's so sad.
[01:40:10.440 --> 01:40:11.440] Yeah.
[01:40:11.440 --> 01:40:15.440] They're not getting sued near enough.
[01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:16.440] What's that?
[01:40:16.440 --> 01:40:19.440] They're not getting sued near enough.
[01:40:19.440 --> 01:40:22.440] They're not getting brought in front of the grand jury near enough either.
[01:40:22.440 --> 01:40:27.440] We need to convince people that you can make money doing this.
[01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:32.440] You see, what they do up here is these attorneys will take $5,000 or $10,000 and say,
[01:40:32.440 --> 01:40:35.440] oh, yeah, we'll sue them, but they sue them in state court.
[01:40:35.440 --> 01:40:37.440] I mean, in state court, they have immunity.
[01:40:37.440 --> 01:40:41.440] But when you take them to federal court, they don't have immunity in federal court,
[01:40:41.440 --> 01:40:43.440] and that's what I've done.
[01:40:43.440 --> 01:40:48.440] And you've got the civil rights for these seven tazes.
[01:40:48.440 --> 01:40:49.440] Yes.
[01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:52.440] It's civil rights violations, and it is a RICO.
[01:40:52.440 --> 01:40:57.440] It's a RICO claim.
[01:40:57.440 --> 01:40:58.440] Well, wait a minute.
[01:40:58.440 --> 01:41:00.440] RICO, you're taking it into federal court.
[01:41:00.440 --> 01:41:04.440] Are there any RICO type of statutes at the state level?
[01:41:04.440 --> 01:41:11.440] In Texas, the state RICO is called the street game statute.
[01:41:11.440 --> 01:41:15.440] I'm not aware of any RICO statutes in the state of Idaho,
[01:41:15.440 --> 01:41:22.440] but I know that this is all organized crime, that they're all criminals acting under the color of law,
[01:41:22.440 --> 01:41:24.440] and they need to be taken care of.
[01:41:24.440 --> 01:41:27.440] And a few people like me step forward and do this kind of stuff,
[01:41:27.440 --> 01:41:30.440] and we're going to be able to take some of these people out.
[01:41:30.440 --> 01:41:31.440] Absolutely.
[01:41:31.440 --> 01:41:34.440] This is going to be very expensive for these people.
[01:41:34.440 --> 01:41:36.440] They just don't know how expensive yet.
[01:41:36.440 --> 01:41:40.440] Lady, that was one of my questions.
[01:41:40.440 --> 01:41:46.440] This is essentially – I mean, we were talking about that affair a little bit, that these are all –
[01:41:46.440 --> 01:41:49.440] all these county buildings, these county courts are all commercial buildings.
[01:41:49.440 --> 01:41:50.440] They're all embedded by that street.
[01:41:50.440 --> 01:41:51.440] Just look them up.
[01:41:51.440 --> 01:41:52.440] Turn them up.
[01:41:52.440 --> 01:41:53.440] They're there.
[01:41:53.440 --> 01:41:56.440] Are the district courts there?
[01:41:56.440 --> 01:42:02.440] What they do is – I mean, it's a matter of policy that they don't follow law.
[01:42:02.440 --> 01:42:04.440] Money changes hands.
[01:42:04.440 --> 01:42:07.440] It's an organized enterprise that's got more than four people.
[01:42:07.440 --> 01:42:10.440] I mean, those are essentially the definite, is it not?
[01:42:10.440 --> 01:42:17.440] Those documents that I sent you that you filed, that's exactly what they go to.
[01:42:17.440 --> 01:42:20.440] They accuse the police of following policy.
[01:42:20.440 --> 01:42:21.440] Policy.
[01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:25.440] And they will all agree they've done these things.
[01:42:25.440 --> 01:42:29.440] And then they go on to show the laws that they violate.
[01:42:29.440 --> 01:42:34.440] Well, yeah, and I think Deloitte really hit the nail on the head when he was saying, you know,
[01:42:34.440 --> 01:42:39.440] we're going to make it too expensive for these guys because it really is all about the money with them.
[01:42:39.440 --> 01:42:45.440] And by, you know, barraging them, blizzarding them with all these criminal complaints
[01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:50.440] and filing lawsuits against them, you know, we're learning how to do this ourselves.
[01:42:50.440 --> 01:42:51.440] We know how to do this ourselves.
[01:42:51.440 --> 01:42:59.440] But they have to hire attorneys to fight this stuff at $175, you know, $300 an hour, whatever it is.
[01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:07.440] And so all the cases, you know, when people get charged with a crime, there's a bond issued on that case itself.
[01:43:07.440 --> 01:43:14.440] And it really literally becomes a securitized instrument, negotiable instrument, and it's sold on the open market.
[01:43:14.440 --> 01:43:18.440] And that's really how all this money is generated to fund the courts.
[01:43:18.440 --> 01:43:22.440] It's not from traffic tickets or these kinds of things.
[01:43:22.440 --> 01:43:26.440] That could never be enough income to fund their machine.
[01:43:26.440 --> 01:43:31.440] It's off of the securitized instruments that are created off of these cases.
[01:43:31.440 --> 01:43:39.440] And so what we do is we just make it so that it's so expensive for them that they end up in a loss.
[01:43:39.440 --> 01:43:46.440] And so then they just back off from the whole thing because it costs them too much money to have to deal with it.
[01:43:46.440 --> 01:43:52.440] And the bonded security securitized instrument becomes worth a lot less money on the open market, too.
[01:43:52.440 --> 01:43:55.440] People don't want to buy it because it's not going to generate any income.
[01:43:55.440 --> 01:43:58.440] All right. We'll be right back. Hang on the line, Deloitte.
[01:43:58.440 --> 01:44:26.440] Okay.
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[01:46:14.440 --> 01:46:17.440] Okay. We are back.
[01:46:17.440 --> 01:46:21.440] We are talking with Deloitte in Idaho. We've also got Mike from Maine.
[01:46:21.440 --> 01:46:26.440] We'll be taking Mike's call after Deloitte.
[01:46:26.440 --> 01:46:29.440] Okay. So go ahead.
[01:46:29.440 --> 01:46:36.440] Basically, we were just talking about how the courts function on a commercial level as well as a constitutional statutory level.
[01:46:36.440 --> 01:46:38.440] And Deloitte, you're absolutely right.
[01:46:38.440 --> 01:46:44.440] We have to make things so expensive for them that they have to change their ways and follow law.
[01:46:44.440 --> 01:46:52.440] Because, I mean, I agree with Randy about the criminal complaint saying that that is one way to leverage them.
[01:46:52.440 --> 01:47:01.440] But the commercial aspect of it, you know, the bond issue, filing claims against their bonds as public servants, that's another way to hit them.
[01:47:01.440 --> 01:47:09.440] We have to go after these thugsters with everything we've got, with every means available.
[01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:12.440] So you're absolutely right. Deloitte and Randy, you have a comment?
[01:47:12.440 --> 01:47:18.440] Yeah. On the break, Keith mentioned I should write a book, and I think that's a good idea.
[01:47:18.440 --> 01:47:25.440] How to get rich suing pigs.
[01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:32.440] Get them to do something stupid, which is really easy, and then sue them.
[01:47:32.440 --> 01:47:39.440] And I put together a suit that when I get it together, I'm likely to make it available to anyone who wants to use it.
[01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:40.440] That's a good idea.
[01:47:40.440 --> 01:47:47.440] And primarily this suit will go to those things that are done in every arrest.
[01:47:47.440 --> 01:47:50.440] And I've got about 20 due process violations.
[01:47:50.440 --> 01:47:57.440] And consider, prosecuting attorneys are generally the ones who had too much fun in college.
[01:47:57.440 --> 01:48:01.440] They were generally a representative for a beer company.
[01:48:01.440 --> 01:48:08.440] They get out, they weren't exactly the highest in their class, so they can't get hired by a decent law firm.
[01:48:08.440 --> 01:48:11.440] So they go to work for the government where they don't have to perform.
[01:48:11.440 --> 01:48:19.440] And then after 10 or 15 years, they get elected district attorney, and then I come along and drop a lawsuit on them.
[01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:23.440] That's the result of 30 years of research.
[01:48:23.440 --> 01:48:34.440] And the prosecutors got until the Monday after the 20th day from the date I filed the suit to answer.
[01:48:34.440 --> 01:48:36.440] Good luck, Bubba.
[01:48:36.440 --> 01:48:39.440] Really? So Lloyd, you were trying to say something just now?
[01:48:39.440 --> 01:48:48.440] Yes. What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to put four police officers in prison for what they did that night.
[01:48:48.440 --> 01:48:53.440] And if you will write down my name, you'll be able to Google it,
[01:48:53.440 --> 01:49:01.440] and the first five or six things that come up will be online, but you have to spell it properly.
[01:49:01.440 --> 01:49:13.440] It's a capital B, small e, capital L, O-Y-C, and a capital S, and then small c-o-t-t.
[01:49:13.440 --> 01:49:17.440] And that will help eliminate a whole bunch of the chaff that comes up here.
[01:49:17.440 --> 01:49:19.440] Don't capitalize it.
[01:49:19.440 --> 01:49:21.440] Now wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:49:21.440 --> 01:49:24.440] Just pronounce your name for us again.
[01:49:24.440 --> 01:49:26.440] Deloitte.
[01:49:26.440 --> 01:49:30.440] Deloitte Scott.
[01:49:30.440 --> 01:49:32.440] Scott, S-C-O-T-T.
[01:49:32.440 --> 01:49:33.440] Okay.
[01:49:33.440 --> 01:49:38.440] And do you have a, did you post these videos on YouTube yourself?
[01:49:38.440 --> 01:49:43.440] There's the video from the COPS-CAM is on there.
[01:49:43.440 --> 01:49:47.440] The video that was taken by one of the neighbors is on there.
[01:49:47.440 --> 01:49:57.440] And if you go down three or four or five items, you'll see the federal case that was filed.
[01:49:57.440 --> 01:50:00.440] I think it was February 20th of this year that case was filed.
[01:50:00.440 --> 01:50:02.440] It's set for court in April.
[01:50:02.440 --> 01:50:05.440] You filed a federal case?
[01:50:05.440 --> 01:50:07.440] Yes, yes, a federal civil rights case.
[01:50:07.440 --> 01:50:09.440] It's a RICO action.
[01:50:09.440 --> 01:50:11.440] Wow.
[01:50:11.440 --> 01:50:13.440] And you'll be able to see that.
[01:50:13.440 --> 01:50:16.440] It's like the fifth thing down.
[01:50:16.440 --> 01:50:19.440] If you Google the name and get the spelling correctly,
[01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:26.440] it'll, the first five or six things that come up with these videos and the court case and...
[01:50:26.440 --> 01:50:32.440] Deloitte, what is the YouTube ID number, an ID name?
[01:50:32.440 --> 01:50:35.440] What's the YouTube account number?
[01:50:35.440 --> 01:50:38.440] Actually, it was, it's somebody else.
[01:50:38.440 --> 01:50:43.440] It's JonasGospel is the YouTube name.
[01:50:43.440 --> 01:50:44.440] Okay.
[01:50:44.440 --> 01:50:45.440] Here's their name.
[01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:46.440] It's JonasGospel.
[01:50:46.440 --> 01:50:54.440] That's the guy that helped me with everything and got this posted for me.
[01:50:54.440 --> 01:51:03.440] I think it's JonasGospel.com, but it's JonasGospel, just like out of the Bible.
[01:51:03.440 --> 01:51:04.440] That's wonderful.
[01:51:04.440 --> 01:51:08.440] We need to go to Mike from Maine before we run out of time.
[01:51:08.440 --> 01:51:11.440] Yeah, do you have anything else for us, Deloitte?
[01:51:11.440 --> 01:51:14.440] No, I've said more than I planned on saying.
[01:51:14.440 --> 01:51:15.440] What's the deal?
[01:51:15.440 --> 01:51:18.440] You haven't been around in so long.
[01:51:18.440 --> 01:51:24.440] Well, I'm trying to keep pretty much quiet for several different reasons, but hey,
[01:51:24.440 --> 01:51:28.440] I'd like to talk to you once in a while, but I'd rather just listen to you on the radio.
[01:51:28.440 --> 01:51:34.440] Well, thank you so much for listening to our show, and thank you for calling in.
[01:51:34.440 --> 01:51:37.440] I hope you guys have a really good night, and I'll talk to you another time.
[01:51:37.440 --> 01:51:39.440] Okay, we'll talk to you later.
[01:51:39.440 --> 01:51:40.440] Bye-bye.
[01:51:40.440 --> 01:51:44.440] We've got some really, really good people out there, good patriots,
[01:51:44.440 --> 01:51:48.440] good-hearted people doing the right thing.
[01:51:48.440 --> 01:51:50.440] A lot of listeners just want to listen.
[01:51:50.440 --> 01:51:55.440] They don't want to call, but I've got to admit, I love it when people call,
[01:51:55.440 --> 01:51:59.440] especially new callers, because we don't know.
[01:51:59.440 --> 01:52:02.440] I mean, we don't know who you all are out there.
[01:52:02.440 --> 01:52:03.440] Y'all know who we are.
[01:52:03.440 --> 01:52:05.440] Y'all hear our voices.
[01:52:05.440 --> 01:52:06.440] We don't hear your voices.
[01:52:06.440 --> 01:52:08.440] You see our picture on the website.
[01:52:08.440 --> 01:52:12.440] We don't know what you look like, so it's really great to meet our listeners.
[01:52:12.440 --> 01:52:13.440] It's really awesome to know.
[01:52:13.440 --> 01:52:17.440] We've got so many like-minded people out there that are doing something about it.
[01:52:17.440 --> 01:52:19.440] Okay, we're going to Mike in Maine now.
[01:52:19.440 --> 01:52:21.440] Mike, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:52:21.440 --> 01:52:22.440] Thanks for calling in.
[01:52:22.440 --> 01:52:23.440] Hi, guys.
[01:52:23.440 --> 01:52:24.440] How are you doing?
[01:52:24.440 --> 01:52:25.440] Good.
[01:52:25.440 --> 01:52:26.440] Good.
[01:52:26.440 --> 01:52:31.440] Hey, the reason I'm following you is I'm trying to figure out a little question.
[01:52:31.440 --> 01:52:35.440] Things like the corresponding status in all these different states,
[01:52:35.440 --> 01:52:43.440] but I've got a situation in Massachusetts that I feel that the COT violated my rights
[01:52:43.440 --> 01:52:46.440] and he overset his own authority,
[01:52:46.440 --> 01:52:53.440] but I can't seem to find any statute in the state of Massachusetts for official oppression.
[01:52:53.440 --> 01:52:57.440] I wonder if maybe somebody might be able to direct me in a right direction.
[01:52:57.440 --> 01:53:05.440] I've got the criminal procedure codes and the penal codes posted on links to all of those
[01:53:05.440 --> 01:53:09.440] for every state posted on our website.
[01:53:09.440 --> 01:53:13.440] You'll scroll to it on the navigation bar on the left.
[01:53:13.440 --> 01:53:17.440] Yeah, I've been there, but I haven't seen anything for Massachusetts
[01:53:17.440 --> 01:53:20.440] in respect to official oppression.
[01:53:20.440 --> 01:53:21.440] I mean, I can find it for New Hampshire.
[01:53:21.440 --> 01:53:23.440] I can find it for Maine.
[01:53:23.440 --> 01:53:26.440] Well, Massachusetts is a commonwealth, right?
[01:53:26.440 --> 01:53:27.440] Yeah.
[01:53:27.440 --> 01:53:30.440] So their laws are probably structured somewhat differently.
[01:53:30.440 --> 01:53:34.440] Randy, do you have any suggestions?
[01:53:34.440 --> 01:53:37.440] Did you look for official misconduct?
[01:53:37.440 --> 01:53:41.440] Yes, I did. I Googled that.
[01:53:41.440 --> 01:53:45.440] I'm going into Lexis now and I'll have a look.
[01:53:45.440 --> 01:53:48.440] Generally, every state will have something.
[01:53:48.440 --> 01:53:52.440] The only one I found that didn't was New Mexico.
[01:53:52.440 --> 01:54:03.440] But if they don't have a state statute for that, you can pull the federal down.
[01:54:03.440 --> 01:54:06.440] And that's 18 U.S. Code 242.
[01:54:06.440 --> 01:54:08.440] Okay.
[01:54:08.440 --> 01:54:09.440] All right.
[01:54:09.440 --> 01:54:14.440] Because what happened is the DOT kind of, he didn't pull me over,
[01:54:14.440 --> 01:54:21.440] but instead of pulling me over, he went to my boss and he got my boss to suspend me for three days
[01:54:21.440 --> 01:54:24.440] without the benefit of a trial or hearing or anything.
[01:54:24.440 --> 01:54:27.440] Wait a minute. Were you driving a commercial vehicle?
[01:54:27.440 --> 01:54:28.440] Yeah.
[01:54:28.440 --> 01:54:30.440] Ah, okay.
[01:54:30.440 --> 01:54:32.440] Yeah, I was driving on a motorboat.
[01:54:32.440 --> 01:54:37.440] And so instead of him pulling me over and citing me or giving me a ticket,
[01:54:37.440 --> 01:54:41.440] he decided to go do an end run around the whole system.
[01:54:41.440 --> 01:54:43.440] He went directly to my employer.
[01:54:43.440 --> 01:54:46.440] Sue him for slander.
[01:54:46.440 --> 01:54:47.440] Well, I don't know.
[01:54:47.440 --> 01:54:53.440] I mean, see, the thing is, my employer is scared of him, so he's going to buckle.
[01:54:53.440 --> 01:54:54.440] Right?
[01:54:54.440 --> 01:54:58.440] So he decides to throw me under the bus.
[01:54:58.440 --> 01:55:04.440] Send a tort letter to the police department at least.
[01:55:04.440 --> 01:55:05.440] Well, it's not the police department.
[01:55:05.440 --> 01:55:08.440] It's the Department of Transportation, DOT.
[01:55:08.440 --> 01:55:09.440] Yeah, well...
[01:55:09.440 --> 01:55:11.440] It's the state?
[01:55:11.440 --> 01:55:17.440] Yeah, State Department of Transportation.
[01:55:17.440 --> 01:55:23.440] Are you familiar with what their duty and authority is?
[01:55:23.440 --> 01:55:30.440] Because Eddie Craig's been going over the transportation code here in Texas,
[01:55:30.440 --> 01:55:33.440] and it's pretty extensive.
[01:55:33.440 --> 01:55:41.440] If this guy didn't make any accusation against you, then send a tort letter,
[01:55:41.440 --> 01:55:46.440] accuse him of slander.
[01:55:46.440 --> 01:55:47.440] Yeah.
[01:55:47.440 --> 01:55:51.440] Yeah, you know, he didn't catch me personally or pull me over.
[01:55:51.440 --> 01:55:57.440] He should have pulled me over and cited me, you know, go to court and deal with it.
[01:55:57.440 --> 01:55:59.440] If I'd done something wrong.
[01:55:59.440 --> 01:56:01.440] The problem is I didn't do anything wrong.
[01:56:01.440 --> 01:56:04.440] He just didn't like the idea that I was in the passing lane.
[01:56:04.440 --> 01:56:06.440] Then he got up behind me.
[01:56:06.440 --> 01:56:10.440] He was right on my tail, and he said I stepped on my brakes
[01:56:10.440 --> 01:56:12.440] and that I was doing it intentionally.
[01:56:12.440 --> 01:56:15.440] Well, the reason I stepped on my brakes is because it was parked in front of me.
[01:56:15.440 --> 01:56:16.440] Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:56:16.440 --> 01:56:20.440] Mike, he pulled you over because you were driving in the left-hand lane, the passing lane?
[01:56:20.440 --> 01:56:22.440] I was in the passing lane.
[01:56:22.440 --> 01:56:23.440] I was passing.
[01:56:23.440 --> 01:56:24.440] He got right up on my bumper.
[01:56:24.440 --> 01:56:27.440] But were you actually passing a car when you were in the passing lane?
[01:56:27.440 --> 01:56:28.440] Oh, yeah.
[01:56:28.440 --> 01:56:29.440] I was in traffic.
[01:56:29.440 --> 01:56:31.440] I was passing a bunch of cars.
[01:56:31.440 --> 01:56:32.440] Okay, all right.
[01:56:32.440 --> 01:56:34.440] But he didn't like the fact that I was out there.
[01:56:34.440 --> 01:56:35.440] Right.
[01:56:35.440 --> 01:56:40.440] And so he got up right on my tail and was doing about 40, 50 miles an hour.
[01:56:40.440 --> 01:56:41.440] He splashed my lights.
[01:56:41.440 --> 01:56:42.440] You weren't speeding?
[01:56:42.440 --> 01:56:44.440] No, I wasn't speeding.
[01:56:44.440 --> 01:56:46.440] Did you file a report?
[01:56:46.440 --> 01:56:48.440] And he went on beyond me.
[01:56:48.440 --> 01:56:50.440] You know, he passed me.
[01:56:50.440 --> 01:56:51.440] He kept on going.
[01:56:51.440 --> 01:56:53.440] I didn't think anything of it.
[01:56:53.440 --> 01:56:54.440] He didn't pull me over.
[01:56:54.440 --> 01:56:55.440] Right.
[01:56:55.440 --> 01:57:01.440] So then I get back to my job, back to the garage, and they called me in.
[01:57:01.440 --> 01:57:03.440] They said, well, what happened?
[01:57:03.440 --> 01:57:05.440] I told them, well, he's all upset.
[01:57:05.440 --> 01:57:06.440] He wants you off the road.
[01:57:06.440 --> 01:57:14.440] We're going to give you three days off without pay.
[01:57:14.440 --> 01:57:19.440] So, you know, because of what he said, I don't get any hearings.
[01:57:19.440 --> 01:57:21.440] I don't get a trial, nothing.
[01:57:21.440 --> 01:57:23.440] You never got pulled over or anything?
[01:57:23.440 --> 01:57:24.440] No, I never got pulled over.
[01:57:24.440 --> 01:57:27.440] And he was just harassing you in your personal life?
[01:57:27.440 --> 01:57:29.440] Yes, apparently.
[01:57:29.440 --> 01:57:31.440] So he went directly to my boss.
[01:57:31.440 --> 01:57:34.440] He didn't pull me over, didn't cite me or anything.
[01:57:34.440 --> 01:57:36.440] Do you know this officer personally?
[01:57:36.440 --> 01:57:38.440] Not personally.
[01:57:38.440 --> 01:57:39.440] I know all of them.
[01:57:39.440 --> 01:57:41.440] I mean, how did he even know where you work?
[01:57:41.440 --> 01:57:43.440] How does he know this personal information about you?
[01:57:43.440 --> 01:57:45.440] Well, it's a commercial bus.
[01:57:45.440 --> 01:57:48.440] Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
[01:57:48.440 --> 01:57:53.440] Yes, because he comes down and he goes down and inspects buses all the time and everything.
[01:57:53.440 --> 01:57:56.440] So, you know, they know him.
[01:57:56.440 --> 01:58:02.440] And, of course, they're afraid of him because, you know, if they don't act with him, well, then...
[01:58:02.440 --> 01:58:06.440] Certainly this is not within the scope of his authority, I would say.
[01:58:06.440 --> 01:58:07.440] Yeah, I don't think so.
[01:58:07.440 --> 01:58:08.440] I mean, you didn't get pulled over.
[01:58:08.440 --> 01:58:09.440] You're not charged with a crime.
[01:58:09.440 --> 01:58:15.440] I mean, he has no business messing in your personal business, talking to your boss or anything.
[01:58:15.440 --> 01:58:18.440] Okay, listen, Mike, we're at the end of the show.
[01:58:18.440 --> 01:58:19.440] Yeah, okay.
[01:58:19.440 --> 01:58:22.440] Okay, feel free to call in tomorrow.
[01:58:22.440 --> 01:58:23.440] All right.
[01:58:23.440 --> 01:58:24.440] Okay, thank you.
[01:58:24.440 --> 01:58:27.440] And thank you, Keith Crawford.
[01:58:27.440 --> 01:58:28.440] Any closing comments?
[01:58:28.440 --> 01:58:30.440] You've got 20 seconds.
[01:58:30.440 --> 01:58:31.440] Thank you very much.
[01:58:31.440 --> 01:58:32.440] I've got a wonderful show.
[01:58:32.440 --> 01:58:33.440] Just got to build it up.
[01:58:33.440 --> 01:58:34.440] Got to build it up.
[01:58:34.440 --> 01:58:35.440] Got to build it up.
[01:58:35.440 --> 01:58:38.440] Got to get, you know, I get the word out here in Houston.
[01:58:38.440 --> 01:58:39.440] Absolutely.
[01:58:39.440 --> 01:58:41.440] You know, big county.
[01:58:41.440 --> 01:58:44.440] I've got to stay on top of them.
[01:58:44.440 --> 01:58:45.440] Okay, fantastic.
[01:58:45.440 --> 01:58:48.440] All right, we will be back tomorrow night.
[01:58:48.440 --> 01:58:50.440] This is the rule of law.
[01:58:50.440 --> 01:58:52.440] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:58:52.440 --> 01:59:01.440] Stay tuned for endless fraud detection.
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