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[00:11.180 --> 00:13.460]  border crossing from Nicaragua.
[00:13.460 --> 00:18.820]  Zelaya was ushered out of the country by the Honduran military on June 28.
[00:18.820 --> 00:23.980]  The Washington Post says the health care industry is spreading rumors that 77% of Americans
[00:23.980 --> 00:27.300]  are satisfied with their existing health insurance coverage.
[00:27.300 --> 00:35.780]  However, a New York Times-CBS news survey found 72% of Americans favor a public plan.
[00:35.780 --> 00:41.540]  Russian and Chinese military forces are taking part in a five-day exercise in China aimed
[00:41.540 --> 00:46.620]  at quelling terrorists who have captured a city and provoked massive riots.
[00:46.620 --> 00:50.860]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:50.860 --> 00:56.740]  Senate Democrats Wednesday narrowly defeated a Republican proposal to allow concealed weapons
[00:56.740 --> 00:59.180]  to be carried across state lines.
[00:59.180 --> 01:04.780]  The vote capped a furious effort by Majority Whip Dick Durbin and Senator Charles Schumer.
[01:04.780 --> 01:10.300]  Schumer, who led the effort to kill the amendment, said its defeat means, quote, lives have been
[01:10.300 --> 01:15.220]  saved, adding, the passage of this amendment would have done more to threaten the safety
[01:15.220 --> 01:20.460]  of New Yorkers than anything since the repeal of the assault weapons ban.
[01:20.460 --> 01:25.740]  The vote was a rare defeat for the National Rifle Association, which described the amendment
[01:25.740 --> 01:30.620]  as a way to push back against an increasingly hostile atmosphere for gun owners.
[01:30.620 --> 01:35.500]  A coalition of U.S. mayors, mayors against illegal guns, co-chaired by New York City
[01:35.500 --> 01:41.340]  Mayor Michael Bloomberg, lobbied senators far more intensely than in other recent gun
[01:41.340 --> 01:42.980]  votes in the Senate.
[01:42.980 --> 01:51.820]  Bloomberg called the amendment an intrusive and destructive bill.
[01:51.820 --> 01:57.100]  The American Academy of Environmental Medicine says genetically modified foods have not been
[01:57.100 --> 02:01.140]  properly tested and pose a serious health risk.
[02:01.140 --> 02:07.140]  Recently the AAEM called on physicians to educate their patients, the medical community
[02:07.140 --> 02:10.980]  and the public to avoid genetically modified foods.
[02:10.980 --> 02:17.020]  They called for a moratorium on GM foods, long-term independent studies and labeling.
[02:17.020 --> 02:23.980]  The AAEM said animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food include
[02:23.980 --> 02:31.220]  infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, insulin regulation and changes in major
[02:31.220 --> 02:34.700]  organs and the gastrointestinal system.
[02:34.700 --> 02:37.580]  More and more doctors are prescribing GM-free diets.
[02:37.580 --> 02:43.700]  Dr. Amy Dean, a Michigan internal medicine specialist and board member of AAEM says,
[02:43.700 --> 02:48.500]  �I strongly recommend patients eat strictly non-genetically modified foods.�
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[06:00.380 --> 06:29.420]  Later this evening, Eddie is going to be getting into some documents that he has written up
[06:29.420 --> 06:34.620]  that he carries around with him to give to police officers when he gets pulled over.
[06:34.620 --> 06:40.900]  But first we have a guest, we've got Randy's sister Linda that's going to be talking about
[06:40.900 --> 06:43.300]  a boating incident, boating accident.
[06:43.300 --> 06:45.220]  Linda, welcome to the show.
[06:45.220 --> 06:47.540]  Thank you.
[06:47.540 --> 06:51.860]  And all you people who's heard me tell everybody that I have a sister named Linda who could
[06:51.860 --> 06:59.060]  be the meanest human being God ever made, I was just kidding about that.
[06:59.060 --> 07:00.060]  Maybe not.
[07:00.060 --> 07:08.060]  Okay, go ahead and kind of bring us up to speed on what went on out there on the lake.
[07:08.060 --> 07:16.100]  Okay, on July 2nd around five o'clock, we were on our pontoon boat and some other friends
[07:16.100 --> 07:22.380]  of ours was on another pontoon in front of us and we were out riding on Kentucky Lake
[07:22.380 --> 07:27.700]  and we passed another pontoon going in the opposite direction and we waved like we do
[07:27.700 --> 07:29.580]  to everyone.
[07:29.580 --> 07:36.260]  And I was talking to a friend of ours on our boat because neither of us could swim, a bass
[07:36.260 --> 07:41.660]  boat came behind us and he was just flying and I told the guy, I said, you couldn't
[07:41.660 --> 07:44.140]  hog time me and throw me on that boat.
[07:44.140 --> 07:45.980]  And he said, me either.
[07:45.980 --> 07:52.740]  And about that time we heard a loud crash and when we spun around to see what it was,
[07:52.740 --> 08:00.140]  the bass boat had gone right across the bow of the pontoon boat that we had just passed
[08:00.140 --> 08:04.860]  and we started screaming, you know, naturally for my husband to turn around and go back.
[08:04.860 --> 08:09.540]  When we got there, there was the people in the water and this one boy was holding up
[08:09.540 --> 08:13.780]  a lady and he's screaming, this is my mother, throw me life preservers, we're throwing
[08:13.780 --> 08:15.780]  life preservers.
[08:15.780 --> 08:20.660]  He's wanting to know if anybody knew CPR, well I did and another gentleman on our boat
[08:20.660 --> 08:24.900]  did so he said, get us on the boat.
[08:24.900 --> 08:28.540]  Well if you've ever been in the water and tried to get on a boat, you can imagine how
[08:28.540 --> 08:35.940]  hard it is to get a 200 pound woman two feet up out of the water and onto a pontoon boat
[08:35.940 --> 08:38.620]  which she's dead weight.
[08:38.620 --> 08:43.220]  When I saw her face when we first pulled up, I thought she was dead but I wasn't sure.
[08:43.220 --> 08:47.540]  So we got her on the boat and we started giving her CPR.
[08:47.540 --> 08:51.540]  Meanwhile our friends had turned around on their boat and come back and they had called
[08:51.540 --> 08:57.900]  911 and a friend of ours is telling them we need help out here.
[08:57.900 --> 09:04.020]  She was on the phone to 911 for 47 minutes and 58 seconds.
[09:04.020 --> 09:05.900]  We still had no one out there.
[09:05.900 --> 09:11.860]  They're telling us to bring this lady to Paris Landing that was the nearest marina and we're
[09:11.860 --> 09:17.120]  telling them we can't, we're still getting people out of the water, we can't leave them.
[09:17.120 --> 09:21.820]  We had another girl that was in the water, she was screaming in pain, they were afraid
[09:21.820 --> 09:26.540]  to try to get her on the boat, afraid they would do more damage.
[09:26.540 --> 09:30.980]  We finally got everyone out of the water, started toward Paris Landing and met another
[09:30.980 --> 09:35.540]  pontoon that hollered to us, do you have the injured woman on your boat?
[09:35.540 --> 09:36.540]  We told them yes.
[09:36.540 --> 09:44.500]  They pulled alongside, the paramedics had commandeered a private boat to come out there.
[09:44.500 --> 09:51.980]  They got on our boat, I got on the commandeered boat and we went back out to the accident
[09:51.980 --> 09:55.080]  site while they took this lady into the dock.
[09:55.080 --> 10:02.300]  We get out there, it's been nearly an hour, TWRA is just arriving on the scene.
[10:02.300 --> 10:07.340]  This girl is still in the water screaming in pain and they're saying we have no way
[10:07.340 --> 10:10.180]  to get her out of the water.
[10:10.180 --> 10:15.900]  And I told them we have a backboard here that the paramedics had left, they finally got
[10:15.900 --> 10:17.980]  her out of the water.
[10:17.980 --> 10:24.980]  We finally get everyone into the landing, the mother and the daughter was the only two
[10:24.980 --> 10:25.980]  that was injured.
[10:25.980 --> 10:33.580]  The mother was dead after giving her CPR for nearly an hour to someone in my heart I knew
[10:33.580 --> 10:40.300]  was dead but I just didn't have the heart to stop until somebody with medical experience
[10:40.300 --> 10:42.820]  told us she was gone.
[10:42.820 --> 10:49.580]  But when we got in and we got all the information, we didn't get a whole lot that night, the
[10:49.580 --> 10:55.740]  next morning we went to pick up some of our life preservers and I, well let me back up,
[10:55.740 --> 11:00.780]  I forgot the one, but when we went into the landing there are two coast guard guys standing
[11:00.780 --> 11:04.820]  there and they're saying is everybody all right?
[11:04.820 --> 11:09.660]  I'm like what do you mean is everybody all right, what are you doing, you know?
[11:09.660 --> 11:12.860]  And when we get in I asked, I said why didn't the coast guard come out?
[11:12.860 --> 11:16.900]  He said oh they don't do that.
[11:16.900 --> 11:18.580]  I said what are we paying for?
[11:18.580 --> 11:25.220]  Well you weren't on the Tennessee channel, see the Kentucky Lake flows into the Tennessee
[11:25.220 --> 11:33.540]  River or vice versa and if you aren't on the Tennessee River channel, apparently the coast
[11:33.540 --> 11:38.340]  guard won't come out, which that still baffles me.
[11:38.340 --> 11:44.420]  I said where was TWRA, well and that kind of him haught around and I was so upset I
[11:44.420 --> 11:45.420]  let it pass.
[11:45.420 --> 11:49.700]  Wait, Linda, what is TWRA, what does that stand for?
[11:49.700 --> 11:55.020]  Tennessee Water Authority or something like that, they're the ones that govern the waterways
[11:55.020 --> 11:57.820]  on Kentucky Lake and Tennessee River.
[11:57.820 --> 12:03.620]  Okay, there's the Tennessee Water Recreation Authority, isn't it?
[12:03.620 --> 12:07.300]  Right, they're the authority on the lake.
[12:07.300 --> 12:12.860]  Well we go back into Paris Landing the next morning about our life preservers and I asked
[12:12.860 --> 12:18.620]  the guy, I said what took so long for TWRA to get out there?
[12:18.620 --> 12:22.420]  He said well we didn't have anybody on duty at the time.
[12:22.420 --> 12:23.420]  I said what?
[12:23.420 --> 12:27.500]  I said this is the 4th of July weekend.
[12:27.500 --> 12:33.580]  He said no, it didn't start until 6 o'clock this morning and because we were going to
[12:33.580 --> 12:42.780]  need everyone, at noon Thursday we sent everyone home and told them to come back at 6 o'clock
[12:42.780 --> 12:49.500]  Friday morning and I said you're telling me there was no one with authority on the lake,
[12:49.500 --> 12:50.500]  no man.
[12:50.500 --> 12:53.700]  I said well let me run this past you.
[12:53.700 --> 13:00.900]  I said what if at noon Thursday the state of Tennessee said okay all the state troopers
[13:00.900 --> 13:07.060]  go home and don't come back until 6 o'clock Friday morning, the official start of the
[13:07.060 --> 13:11.460]  4th of July weekend and all those people on the highway out there that's driving around,
[13:11.460 --> 13:12.700]  they're just going to be on their own.
[13:12.700 --> 13:16.900]  He said well ma'am I don't think that's going to happen.
[13:16.900 --> 13:22.220]  I said I don't either and it should not have happened out on the lake yesterday afternoon
[13:22.220 --> 13:24.740]  either.
[13:24.740 --> 13:27.660]  We were out there on our own.
[13:27.660 --> 13:30.500]  We had no one.
[13:30.500 --> 13:38.260]  We were giving this woman CPR and we're telling them we need help out here and they couldn't
[13:38.260 --> 13:41.860]  even tell us well the boat's on the other side of the lake but it's on our way.
[13:41.860 --> 13:53.420]  All we were told we don't have anybody to send you and to me that's totally unacceptable.
[13:53.420 --> 13:56.420]  Didn't you talk to a congresswoman about this?
[13:56.420 --> 14:02.700]  I talked to Judy Barker, she's our state representative for my area and she's supposed to be getting
[14:02.700 --> 14:07.340]  in touch with the PWRA in Nashville and talking to them.
[14:07.340 --> 14:12.860]  I tried to get a hold of her today but she was in meeting and the one lady told me and
[14:12.860 --> 14:17.140]  I told her what I was calling about and she said she thought one of her meetings today
[14:17.140 --> 14:23.580]  was with PWRA so I'm hoping to hear from her.
[14:23.580 --> 14:25.060]  Something has to be done.
[14:25.060 --> 14:35.660]  This is the, when we bought our pontoon boat we just bought the boat, got it registered,
[14:35.660 --> 14:38.380]  got it legal, went out on the lake.
[14:38.380 --> 14:47.980]  We didn't know anything about boating and we were allowed just to pull right out on
[14:47.980 --> 14:48.980]  the lake.
[14:48.980 --> 14:55.660]  My husband asked several people where can we get a book with the rules and regulations
[14:55.660 --> 14:56.660]  of boating?
[14:56.660 --> 14:58.140]  Gee, I don't know.
[14:58.140 --> 14:59.140]  Everyone we asked.
[14:59.140 --> 15:03.940]  We finally got one that Friday morning when we went back to Paris Landing.
[15:03.940 --> 15:11.740]  They gave us one and when I asked PWRA about that he said well that's just, they're around
[15:11.740 --> 15:12.740]  you know.
[15:12.740 --> 15:17.140]  I said you mean people, we just buy a boat, we jump on it, we run out on the lake with
[15:17.140 --> 15:21.500]  it and we don't know our head from a hole in the ground about boating and he said well
[15:21.500 --> 15:30.900]  starting last year if you're born after 1989 you have to go and take a test and for safety
[15:30.900 --> 15:34.060]  and everything and you get a little card to carry with you.
[15:34.060 --> 15:38.180]  I said well that's super, that's really great.
[15:38.180 --> 15:43.380]  But all it means to me is that all these poor people born 89 and after that go through all
[15:43.380 --> 15:47.140]  of this and they're out there doing everything they're supposed to do, they're at the mercy
[15:47.140 --> 15:51.260]  of all us old retired codgers that just buy a boat and we don't have to do that because
[15:51.260 --> 15:55.860]  we're grandfather and we jump out on the lake and we don't know nothing about it and probably
[15:55.860 --> 16:00.980]  aren't going to run over them.
[16:00.980 --> 16:09.300]  It's just they don't seem to have any system to it, it's just jump on your boat and go
[16:09.300 --> 16:11.300]  and to me that's not acceptable.
[16:11.300 --> 16:18.420]  If I get a ticket on the water it affects my driver's license and that's fine with me
[16:18.420 --> 16:24.820]  but I deserve the same protection on the water as the people get driving their car.
[16:24.820 --> 16:29.500]  If they're gonna govern me the same they need to afford me the same protection and we don't
[16:29.500 --> 16:30.500]  have that.
[16:30.500 --> 16:39.100]  If we hadn't been as close to that boat as we were at least three people would have drowned,
[16:39.100 --> 16:44.780]  a minimum of three people would have drowned and I don't know when anybody would have got
[16:44.780 --> 16:45.780]  to.
[16:45.780 --> 16:51.420]  Do you know what happened to the guy that was driving the bass boat?
[16:51.420 --> 16:58.860]  He was cited for BUI, reckless boating and vehicular homicide.
[16:58.860 --> 17:02.700]  So at least he's not going to be on the lake for a while.
[17:02.700 --> 17:06.580]  I don't know the way things are going, you know train things go in Tennessee sometimes
[17:06.580 --> 17:12.140]  I just you know I'm really not sure.
[17:12.140 --> 17:17.300]  I'm hoping that he'll, they say he doesn't have a clean record that he should get a lot
[17:17.300 --> 17:26.060]  of time but I just I just want the people of Tennessee to know because I didn't know
[17:26.060 --> 17:31.220]  I thought we had I was expecting TWRA to be you know all over the lake.
[17:31.220 --> 17:36.220]  We was I didn't go back out the 4th of July I just but people said they didn't see that
[17:36.220 --> 17:44.580]  many on the lake you know on the 4th of July and I just don't understand that.
[17:44.580 --> 17:50.780]  We need you there was thousands of boats out there and there's just nobody there they're
[17:50.780 --> 17:52.300]  just out there on their own.
[17:52.300 --> 17:57.940]  This guy went behind us, he was flying.
[17:57.940 --> 18:09.200]  He was drinking, he had illegal fish, he had beer and worth all the help you know worth.
[18:09.200 --> 18:12.540]  People need to know they need to get a hold of their congressman, they need to get a hold
[18:12.540 --> 18:16.980]  of whoever I'm getting a hold of I may call the governor next if this lady don't help
[18:16.980 --> 18:25.980]  me out because to me this is just not acceptable to have that many people out on the lake and
[18:25.980 --> 18:29.940]  have no authority out there none not even anybody.
[18:29.940 --> 18:34.620]  We had plenty of paramedics standing on Paris Landing they just didn't have a way to get
[18:34.620 --> 18:41.740]  to it and I don't understand why the coast guard if somebody's life is in danger I don't
[18:41.740 --> 18:47.300]  care where they're at the government's paying them people I'm paying them people if I call
[18:47.300 --> 18:52.340]  for help and you're just standing there you need to come help.
[18:52.340 --> 18:55.820]  Do you have a good Samaritan law in Tennessee?
[18:55.820 --> 19:02.820]  I'm not sure I've I got involved with grandchildren today and I didn't get around to checking
[19:02.820 --> 19:07.220]  it but I'm not sure but I'm definitely going to look into it I was told by someone that
[19:07.220 --> 19:11.100]  they didn't think so.
[19:11.100 --> 19:13.620]  But I am going to check it.
[19:13.620 --> 19:20.980]  If you help someone then you're not protected like here in Texas if you stop and render
[19:20.980 --> 19:32.300]  aid you are absolutely immune from any civil litigation period yeah I don't know but if
[19:32.300 --> 19:35.980]  I had known it wouldn't have made any difference you just you know when people you know need
[19:35.980 --> 19:44.420]  help you do what you have to do and but to me this is just I don't know about the state
[19:44.420 --> 19:51.980]  of Kentucky it also is on the boundary of Kentucky Lake I don't know you know what they
[19:51.980 --> 19:58.660]  do but I do know what Tennessee does not do unfortunately we found out the hard way and
[19:58.660 --> 20:05.580]  to me it's just you can't have that many people on a lake.
[20:05.580 --> 20:11.620]  So I would if you would if you can get a hold of this congresswoman and talk to her and
[20:11.620 --> 20:18.420]  keep us up to speed on what happens with this okay and I'm kind of getting the impression
[20:18.420 --> 20:24.060]  that that you may have some public officials who aren't effectively doing their job in
[20:24.060 --> 20:25.060]  Tennessee.
[20:25.060 --> 20:33.180]  I thought that only happened in Texas oh no oh no Tennessee is I probably according to
[20:33.180 --> 20:46.260]  me is the world's worst we have no well victims have no rights only the criminals have rights.
[20:46.260 --> 20:51.620]  Yes we were we were talking when I talked to Linda the other day about her favorite
[20:51.620 --> 21:00.100]  son-in-law no he's not my son-in-law anymore you want to kind of give a brief synopsis
[21:00.100 --> 21:06.500]  of what went on there okay my daughter she had known this boy when she was in high school
[21:06.500 --> 21:13.420]  which she's now 44 and she they went together as teenagers then they kind of broke up and
[21:13.420 --> 21:19.340]  they kind of drifted apart but I saw Jeff from time to time through the years well about
[21:19.340 --> 21:25.540]  six or seven years ago her husband passed away with cancer and she bumped into this
[21:25.540 --> 21:32.220]  dude and lo and behold they get married which I was not happy because he drinks and he's
[21:32.220 --> 21:40.220]  rowdy and for about two years he slapped her around he spit in her face you name it just
[21:40.220 --> 21:46.820]  about he done it finally she divorced him six weeks later she marries him again and
[21:46.820 --> 21:53.340]  we go into the same old thing she divorced him the second time and this time she said
[21:53.340 --> 21:59.540]  I'm done don't come near me don't come around me it's over will he come around a few times
[21:59.540 --> 22:05.060]  and she run him off well she went home one day and she was expecting a friend over and
[22:05.060 --> 22:09.820]  she heard someone come in her front door thinking it was Deanna she walked in the living room
[22:09.820 --> 22:15.420]  and it was Jeff he pulled a knife on her held it to her throat told her he's going to kill
[22:15.420 --> 22:23.100]  her well meanwhile this girl Deanna comes in and she sees this and she's kind of spunky
[22:23.100 --> 22:29.580]  and they kind of she kind of got into it with Jeff and they struggled a little and they
[22:29.580 --> 22:33.780]  finally between the two of them got him drug out on the front porch with him hanging onto
[22:33.780 --> 22:40.540]  my daughter and for some reason they were she managed to get Carol away from them and
[22:40.540 --> 22:49.940]  they ran he goes back in her house and cause the police came out and they told him he's
[22:49.940 --> 22:55.940]  in the house they called the house and he told them I'm in here I'm staying in here
[22:55.940 --> 23:01.820]  and I'm going to burn the house you'll have to kill me to get me out well he set the house
[23:01.820 --> 23:09.740]  on fire by the time the smoke started getting to him he had a change of heart about dying
[23:09.740 --> 23:15.940]  and he climbed out on the roof of the porch and he was in a fetal position and because
[23:15.940 --> 23:19.860]  he was in the fetal position when the fire department got there the police wouldn't let
[23:19.860 --> 23:24.940]  them get close because they was afraid he had a gun and would start shooting the fireman
[23:24.940 --> 23:30.060]  so it took about 30 minutes for them to get him off the roof so the fireman could fight
[23:30.060 --> 23:38.100]  the fire didn't you try to get the chief of police's gun pardon didn't you try to get
[23:38.100 --> 23:45.660]  the police chief of police's gun no I just told him that I left my house which he's a
[23:45.660 --> 23:50.860]  good friend of mine I've known him for 25 years I told him I said Joe I said when I
[23:50.860 --> 23:56.220]  left the house I realized I'd forgot my gun and I knew it was no need asking Bill to go
[23:56.220 --> 24:03.820]  back because he wouldn't do it and Joe said well I thought of that one I said well if
[24:03.820 --> 24:08.660]  I'd had my gun I said it wouldn't have took that long to got him off the roof and Joe
[24:08.660 --> 24:11.460]  said well if I'd have been here earlier he said it probably wouldn't have took him that
[24:11.460 --> 24:15.740]  long either yeah but he probably wouldn't have shot him off the roof you would have
[24:15.740 --> 24:29.140]  yes I would have that's my kids but the sad part was they charged him with kidnapping
[24:29.140 --> 24:40.860]  aggravated kidnapping breaking and entering aggravated arson assault with a deadly weapon
[24:40.860 --> 24:46.100]  and they're telling us oh he's going to get time he'll be an old man when he gets out
[24:46.100 --> 24:52.060]  well they dropped all the charges they dropped the aggravated arson the aggravated kidnapping
[24:52.060 --> 24:59.020]  he got charged with all the minor offenses and this is a district attorney not our police
[24:59.020 --> 25:03.980]  department our police department was up in arms over it my daughter was never talked
[25:03.980 --> 25:14.540]  to he got four eight-year sentences to run concurrent he came up for parole in just a
[25:14.540 --> 25:22.860]  little over a year which they did deny him this sounds like I cannot I don't know how
[25:22.860 --> 25:29.340]  people can stand still which I did not stirred up a little bit it didn't seem to help but
[25:29.340 --> 25:34.420]  I told one lady at the district attorney's office when she's trying to explain why they
[25:34.420 --> 25:44.540]  downplay all of this I told her I said well I hope you never have to stand in the street
[25:44.540 --> 25:54.300]  and watch everything your child and your grandchildren own go up and smoke for some low life piece
[25:54.300 --> 26:03.300]  it's the crap that has decided that if I can't have it no one will and that's just exactly
[26:03.300 --> 26:08.860]  what happened to my daughter he couldn't have it and he told her if I can't have it no one
[26:08.860 --> 26:15.740]  will if I can't have you no one will I don't have a doubt in my mind when he gets out in
[26:15.740 --> 26:21.740]  about four and a half more years he's going to come after my daughter have no doubt in
[26:21.740 --> 26:30.420]  my mind they just give him enough time to really get him kicked off and if that happens
[26:30.420 --> 26:36.260]  I'm surprised that they didn't charge him with attempted murder they dropped all of
[26:36.260 --> 26:41.300]  they did they charged him he had he had about 16 counts they dropped all the major ones
[26:41.300 --> 26:46.780]  and I'm just they said well he pre-bargained yeah that was going to be my question that's
[26:46.780 --> 26:54.220]  what I was guessing too but why is it when they pre-bargained that my daughter had no
[26:54.220 --> 27:01.620]  say so in it it was her house it was her thing it was her children's thing it's it's because
[27:01.620 --> 27:06.620]  of the prosecuting attorney he has an agenda yeah Randy can you speak up some or get a
[27:06.620 --> 27:10.460]  little closer than my because we can't hear you very well okay I turned it down to keep
[27:10.460 --> 27:18.460]  that noise in the background the prosecutor has an agenda it has nothing to do with justice
[27:18.460 --> 27:24.700]  it has nothing to do with the victims it has to do with how easy it is for him to clear
[27:24.700 --> 27:30.940]  his docket and win a case and win a case that's what he cares about and that's about all he
[27:30.940 --> 27:36.900]  cares about now we have a caller from Kentucky and I spec I suspect he will have a comment
[27:36.900 --> 27:42.640]  on this yeah and I want to make a comment too before we take the call because I agree
[27:42.640 --> 27:48.500]  with Linda concerning why didn't the daughter have any say so about this and this is why
[27:48.500 --> 27:53.980]  I believe that we should have private prosecution in this country it shouldn't be up to the
[27:53.980 --> 28:01.580]  state the DA should not have a monopoly concerning the prosecution of crimes and be the one to
[28:01.580 --> 28:07.280]  get to decide concerning the plea bargains and these kinds of things because the way
[28:07.280 --> 28:12.860]  that our system is is set up right now which I believe is actually in violation of some
[28:12.860 --> 28:18.020]  very fundamental principles is that the state is the injured party when a law is broken
[28:18.020 --> 28:22.780]  and I don't believe in that because how is the state hurt in this situation it was Linda's
[28:22.780 --> 28:27.460]  daughter that was the injured party and especially when it comes to traffic laws and things like
[28:27.460 --> 28:32.260]  this well you know the cops pull you over and charge you with speeding or whatever well
[28:32.260 --> 28:37.980]  who's the injured party oh just because some bogus law is broken that means the state's
[28:37.980 --> 28:44.500]  an injured party you haven't hurt anyone okay so I concur wholeheartedly with Linda there
[28:44.500 --> 28:52.060]  needs to be a change here well I can another thing that kind of upset me was when I called
[28:52.060 --> 28:59.260]  him and I said what do you mean he's only doing eight years well he has no priors and
[28:59.260 --> 29:05.660]  I said what are you talking about my daughter's had him arrested in this city in the last
[29:05.660 --> 29:11.980]  five years three times for domestic violence that's just here he's done time in Illinois
[29:11.980 --> 29:16.460]  for domestic violence he done time in Texas he had a record as long as your arm they didn't
[29:16.460 --> 29:21.340]  even look at it they thought this was just the first time
[29:21.340 --> 29:28.140]  they didn't think any such thing the very first thing they did was run his criminal
[29:28.140 --> 29:34.380]  history through NCIC well they supposedly gave me copies of or gave Carol copies of
[29:34.380 --> 29:38.220]  everything they had in this file okay hold on hold on Linda we're going to break yeah
[29:38.220 --> 29:42.180]  we're going to break and then we'll go to some of the calls all right this is a rule
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[31:23.780 --> 31:32.820]  okay we are back okay we have some callers on the line we've got Randall from Kentucky
[31:32.820 --> 31:37.300]  we're gonna go to Randall Randall thanks for calling in what's on your mind well I was
[31:37.300 --> 31:42.020]  listening to y'all's last conversation on the NCIC thing that's not true nine times
[31:42.020 --> 31:46.420]  out of ten they only run your name to see if you have warrants in other counties and
[31:46.420 --> 31:52.020]  stuff like that I'm currently on probation because of a police officer decided that I
[31:52.020 --> 31:58.580]  had that I had an involvement with some drug dealers because of where I lived I'm poverty
[31:58.580 --> 32:03.820]  stricken I had to work at Berry Queens so I lived in a bad neighborhood cop pulled me
[32:03.820 --> 32:07.780]  over I wouldn't give him information because I didn't have none next time he pulled me
[32:07.780 --> 32:15.140]  over I go into a seizure because I have seizures and flashing lights send me into a seizure
[32:15.140 --> 32:18.780]  and I wake up in the hospital with handcuffs on he's telling me I'm going to jail for
[32:18.780 --> 32:25.100]  possession of drugs I've been fighting the case for two years then they finally tell
[32:25.100 --> 32:30.860]  me hey you don't take this deal we're gonna hit you with a PFO so what are you saying
[32:30.860 --> 32:35.540]  did they plant drugs on you on your car or something I believe oh yeah because I don't
[32:35.540 --> 32:41.540]  do drugs and every time I've ever had to go do a drug test I've never failed and it's
[32:41.540 --> 32:46.380]  just he pretty much I was the only white guy in that whole area and he pretty much said
[32:46.380 --> 32:53.620]  I was giving the drugs to them other people to sell for me and then I wouldn't tell him
[32:53.620 --> 32:59.220]  nothing then that's when they try to say that hey he's doing this this and this and I can
[32:59.220 --> 33:05.460]  get my history out where it shows that even the cops lying he said he pulled me over on
[33:05.460 --> 33:10.820]  the street he pulled me over in a alley and everything he said has been a lie but the
[33:10.820 --> 33:17.100]  prosecuting attorney they they say that hey this cop's right you're wrong it's my word
[33:17.100 --> 33:23.220]  against fear and they always take the word of the policeman and testifying has become
[33:23.220 --> 33:29.780]  a matter of course right and the police officers here and I'm in Louisville and the police
[33:29.780 --> 33:34.700]  officers here I've literally seen them go out and pick up prostitutes and not take them
[33:34.700 --> 33:38.380]  to jail drive around next thing you know he's dropping them back off where he picked them
[33:38.380 --> 33:45.620]  up in I've seen it myself and I've had other witnesses see the police here the government
[33:45.620 --> 33:50.140]  here in Kentucky they're just they're out of I don't know what they're doing man they're
[33:50.140 --> 33:57.260]  just out of whack with everything problem is is it's the same everywhere everywhere
[33:57.260 --> 34:03.500]  I go people tell me oh my county's worst county in the nation every state doesn't make any
[34:03.500 --> 34:11.340]  difference where I go it's a mess everywhere yeah I mean it ain't only the police it's
[34:11.340 --> 34:17.700]  the housing people they come through and harass people that are on disability they're just
[34:17.700 --> 34:23.380]  trying to get money and the prosecutors when they send you to trial it's whoever can get
[34:23.380 --> 34:27.940]  it done the fastest because a trial the cheapest trial they said is about twenty thirty thousand
[34:27.940 --> 34:32.020]  if they can get a trial done before it goes all the way to have to get the jurors and
[34:32.020 --> 34:36.380]  everything that's another notch under their belt plus they win that's two notches not
[34:36.380 --> 34:46.140]  just one I don't know what the conviction rate is in Kentucky but in Texas it's ninety
[34:46.140 --> 34:56.860]  nine point six what does a police state look like if you encountered a police state how
[34:56.860 --> 35:04.980]  would you recognize it as a police state a police state the United States can say contains
[35:04.980 --> 35:10.780]  about four percent of the world's population we house approximately fifty percent of the
[35:10.780 --> 35:17.380]  world's population of inmates what what does a police state look like and how would you
[35:17.380 --> 35:25.860]  know if you were in one folks we're in a police state we have been for a long time yeah I
[35:25.860 --> 35:30.460]  mean just it's just the way they are they harass everybody here I mean it ain't only
[35:30.460 --> 35:37.620]  me it's they harass elderly people they harass young people I mean issues that I understand
[35:37.620 --> 35:42.460]  that you're saying that it's going on everywhere but if you was actually to come to Louisville
[35:42.460 --> 35:48.580]  and see how the jails are run they're run ridiculous man they only time you'll see
[35:48.580 --> 35:53.180]  them do anything for the inmates here is if they're fixing to have a federal review where
[35:53.180 --> 35:56.580]  the federal feds are coming in to look at everything then they hurry up and try to get
[35:56.580 --> 36:00.820]  everything tip-top other than that they're making people sleep on the floors on mats
[36:00.820 --> 36:06.580]  they don't I mean the food there is just enough to keep you alive it's unfortunately it's
[36:06.580 --> 36:16.420]  the same everywhere I have a question yes have you ever read the penal code for Kentucky
[36:16.420 --> 36:24.260]  no I haven't you ever read the code of criminal procedure it's supposed to be innocent so
[36:24.260 --> 36:31.740]  proving guilty oh no I'm more than that this is why we have the problem the schools schools
[36:31.740 --> 36:38.100]  lead us away from there they tell us what a great system we have but they don't want
[36:38.100 --> 36:45.900]  us to really understand it and know how it works if you get people in your neighborhood
[36:45.900 --> 36:53.860]  reading the code these problems will start to go away and they won't go away until the
[36:53.860 --> 37:02.260]  people that are being harassed take the fight back to the police and when we do they harass
[37:02.260 --> 37:09.900]  us ten times worse not true they only harass you when you lay down and roll over and take
[37:09.900 --> 37:16.060]  it when you stand up and bring them in front of the court and bring get it force them to
[37:16.060 --> 37:23.460]  answer for their behavior they don't come back and harass you we'll never fix it if
[37:23.460 --> 37:28.380]  we don't start I had a friend of mine that went and actually filed a lawsuit against
[37:28.380 --> 37:35.220]  some police officers he not only did he hurry up and drop it they wound up beating him up
[37:35.220 --> 37:42.540]  with that he's got teeth missing from that so you're saying whatever you do don't you
[37:42.540 --> 37:53.060]  dare object what's gonna happen now how do you think this got here this is everybody
[37:53.060 --> 37:58.660]  trying to do nothing we need to start taking them criminally we need to go after them you
[37:58.660 --> 38:07.180]  know were you ever in the military sir were you ever in the military no I was raised by
[38:07.180 --> 38:11.780]  my I was raised pretty much in the military though my grandfather was a marine my grandfather
[38:11.780 --> 38:23.060]  so so it's okay for us to go in the military go overseas and let other people shoot at
[38:23.060 --> 38:28.420]  us and risk our lives for these rights and freedoms but when we come back here all of
[38:28.420 --> 38:37.940]  a sudden it's not okay anymore that we shouldn't somehow take these risks right we shouldn't
[38:37.940 --> 38:43.540]  take here in Kentucky there is a no contact law you are not allowed to defend yourself
[38:43.540 --> 38:55.620]  if you do you go to jail too horse manure that is not true that is not true anywhere
[38:55.620 --> 39:00.460]  wait wait wait wait maybe I misunderstood what you said you're saying if somebody attacks
[39:00.460 --> 39:07.260]  you you can't defend yourself right if you do here you go to jail right along with them
[39:07.260 --> 39:12.940]  oh so I guess people are just supposed to let other people kill them just go ahead kill
[39:12.940 --> 39:18.660]  me I I'm not allowed to defend myself I'm not allowed to save my own life so so just
[39:18.660 --> 39:25.860]  kill me pretty much that's the way they act they kill no no no that's the way I don't
[39:25.860 --> 39:33.100]  think so where I grew up in Chicago if you get in a fight whoever wins gets blamed but
[39:33.100 --> 39:41.860]  the law was such that you have a right to protect yourself so what I'm wondering about
[39:41.860 --> 39:47.180]  are you talking about how you perceive it to be enforced or are you talking about what
[39:47.180 --> 39:55.140]  the law is how they enforce yeah well that's the problem nobody knows what the law is if
[39:55.140 --> 39:58.460]  you don't know what the law is they can do anything they want to by the way speaking
[39:58.460 --> 40:04.180]  of knowing what the law is I just got a chat from one of our producers a caller Dave from
[40:04.180 --> 40:10.380]  Georgia sent in saying that there is a good Samaritan law in Tennessee and it's the code
[40:10.380 --> 40:19.820]  63-6-218 so Randy that was you were asking about that earlier so I want to answer that
[40:19.820 --> 40:25.540]  question wonderful that's I was sure there was and I suspect there is in every state
[40:25.540 --> 40:31.700]  and I'm relatively certain that if we check Kentucky law we'll find that you do have the
[40:31.700 --> 40:37.420]  right to protect yourself and most likely you have the right to protect property and
[40:37.420 --> 40:43.340]  person of another one of another person I know it's here in Texas you have a right to
[40:43.340 --> 40:52.980]  protect your person and your property you have the right to use force yeah but see when
[40:52.980 --> 41:01.180]  we hear these stories and you don't tell everything a guy attacks you you fight back you knock
[41:01.180 --> 41:05.180]  him out and when he's down you kick him three times in the head and you complain because
[41:05.180 --> 41:10.940]  you get arrested no no no no it did not happen like that at all are you saying that in Kentucky
[41:10.940 --> 41:15.820]  if you do anything to defend yourself you're going to jail pretty much that's what they
[41:15.820 --> 41:20.740]  you need to get the heck out of Kentucky I don't know I'm trying but I can't leave for
[41:20.740 --> 41:28.640]  this is this can't be true just cannot be true well unreasonable Randy there is one
[41:28.640 --> 41:35.160]  thing about even here in Texas the law specifically states that if a police officer is trying
[41:35.160 --> 41:42.460]  to arrest you even if the arrest is unlawful you do not have the right to resist now that's
[41:42.460 --> 41:47.060]  what's written in the statute I understand that right but that's not what we're talking
[41:47.060 --> 41:54.260]  about here no I know we're talking about a third-party aggressor right I was look on
[41:54.260 --> 41:59.380]  my own my situation itself I was just walking to go get my wife something eat a drunk guy
[41:59.380 --> 42:07.020]  jump out try to rob me he swung I hit him he fell I ran I went ahead went to White Castle
[42:07.020 --> 42:12.260]  hey I was coming back around instead of going down the same way I came I sort of block over
[42:12.260 --> 42:21.060]  he was there with the police yeah well we see now you're proposing that as if it's
[42:21.060 --> 42:28.420]  law you punched the guy out and you didn't call the police and reported against him he's
[42:28.420 --> 42:33.700]  the one that reported a crime against you what expect the police to do what they had
[42:33.700 --> 42:39.020]  seen was a man trying to rob a man somebody had turned that in he didn't call the police
[42:39.020 --> 42:45.260]  somebody else did I told them what happened we both went to jail well yeah you should
[42:45.260 --> 42:51.220]  have called the guy tries to rob you and you don't bother calling the police on him you
[42:51.220 --> 43:00.180]  gonna go let him rob the next guy okay see yeah but you're claiming that the police are
[43:00.180 --> 43:05.340]  being somehow horribly mistreating you and it's not the case yeah we need to look up
[43:05.340 --> 43:10.460]  what the law really is for one thing you're mad at the police because they get a report
[43:10.460 --> 43:15.300]  that one guy's trying to rob another and they see one guy who's stone-cold sober and one
[43:15.300 --> 43:20.420]  guy's drunk who's likely to be trying to rob who they're gonna figure this over guys trying
[43:20.420 --> 43:24.780]  to roll the drunk guy and you're telling them oh no that ain't true and the drunk guy said
[43:24.780 --> 43:29.060]  oh I didn't do it I didn't do it so what are the police supposed to be Claire Wyatt so
[43:29.060 --> 43:38.940]  they take you both and sort it out okay well listen listen listen we're going to break
[43:38.940 --> 43:46.980]  now we're going to break now we'll be right back and we do have a lot of calls okay this
[43:46.980 --> 43:52.260]  is the rule of law Raina Kelton Debra Stevens and Eddie Craig we'll be right back
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[51:03.460 --> 51:06.980]  It pleases me that you got that point.
[51:06.980 --> 51:13.060]  Most of what I was doing was going after the structure of the language used and not so
[51:13.060 --> 51:18.340]  much the content of the arguments.
[51:18.340 --> 51:23.900]  Because until we got the structure right, we couldn't even address the issues.
[51:23.900 --> 51:31.420]  And these are common things that I'm encountering in legal reform is we're not disciplined
[51:31.420 --> 51:34.260]  enough with our language.
[51:34.260 --> 51:40.020]  I'm looking through some documents that other people have referred to me.
[51:40.020 --> 51:48.980]  And I keep finding these same things over and over, where someone makes a statement
[51:48.980 --> 51:55.740]  and then says, it makes a statement of law and then makes another statement that's not
[51:55.740 --> 51:59.540]  law, but he purports it as if it is law.
[51:59.540 --> 52:04.220]  And he says, since this first thing is so and the second thing is so, then my conclusion
[52:04.220 --> 52:05.220]  here is so.
[52:05.220 --> 52:07.780]  And I want to say, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[52:07.780 --> 52:11.820]  You propose something that you didn't support.
[52:11.820 --> 52:16.740]  And I've got a document here and all in the margins, unsupported accusation, unstated
[52:16.740 --> 52:25.740]  presupposition, where we haven't been mentally disciplined to not accept something as fact
[52:25.740 --> 52:28.460]  unless we know it to be fact.
[52:28.460 --> 52:33.660]  It's okay to accept something that's a conclusion.
[52:33.660 --> 52:40.100]  So long as we always keep a mark on it and say that's a conclusion, never let it get
[52:40.100 --> 52:43.140]  misinterpreted as fact.
[52:43.140 --> 52:44.980]  And I'm glad you got that point.
[52:44.980 --> 52:45.980]  Go ahead.
[52:45.980 --> 52:50.220]  Yeah, a lot of the papers, and I know what you're talking about, they're quote unquote
[52:50.220 --> 52:52.660]  legal briefs, but in reality, they're emotional briefs.
[52:52.660 --> 52:57.460]  You'll get a couple of good case sites that started out and then you'll get a conclusion
[52:57.460 --> 52:58.460]  from it.
[52:58.460 --> 53:01.940]  And you're thinking to yourself, well, he just hasn't gotten there yet and somewhere
[53:01.940 --> 53:05.860]  down the line, we'll see the case that supports that, but that case never comes and so you
[53:05.860 --> 53:07.860]  never get across the river.
[53:07.860 --> 53:13.220]  Yes, and speaking of cases, that's another big problem.
[53:13.220 --> 53:19.860]  I get these guys, I had a guy cite UCC chapter 0-105.
[53:19.860 --> 53:26.380]  Well, as you're right, that's what he had cited.
[53:26.380 --> 53:27.860]  Okay.
[53:27.860 --> 53:30.340]  And as you might guess, there is no such thing.
[53:30.340 --> 53:34.900]  Or when you do get a case, it's off-point and out of context.
[53:34.900 --> 53:39.220]  The judge will be making a side note that has absolutely nothing to do with the matter
[53:39.220 --> 53:40.860]  the author's claiming.
[53:40.860 --> 53:44.380]  Yes, that is.
[53:44.380 --> 53:54.340]  When I do get case law, there are some sites I go on where every single case is wrong.
[53:54.340 --> 53:57.660]  Either it doesn't exist, it's not on point.
[53:57.660 --> 54:04.780]  I did a search for jurisdiction and got a hit on a page on jurisdiction.
[54:04.780 --> 54:08.860]  Had lots of really good sounding case law on it.
[54:08.860 --> 54:15.580]  Not one single case had the quotation attributed to it.
[54:15.580 --> 54:17.300]  Not a one.
[54:17.300 --> 54:19.020]  You got to work at that.
[54:19.020 --> 54:22.840]  That doesn't happen by accident.
[54:22.840 --> 54:29.740]  Someone sent me a treatment on Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act that still stands out as one
[54:29.740 --> 54:41.260]  of my pet peeves where they stated in quotes that when the sovereign initiates an action,
[54:41.260 --> 54:45.340]  the sovereign is subject to suit.
[54:45.340 --> 54:49.780]  It was not in the case.
[54:49.780 --> 54:51.500]  They made it up.
[54:51.500 --> 54:59.580]  Now, it paraphrased something that was in the case, but it took it out of context.
[54:59.580 --> 55:09.140]  What the case said is when the sovereign enters into commerce alongside other folks in commerce,
[55:09.140 --> 55:12.900]  then it waives its immunity from suit.
[55:12.900 --> 55:17.060]  It didn't matter if they were the ones that sued or were sued.
[55:17.060 --> 55:19.900]  In this case, they happen to be the one that filed suit.
[55:19.900 --> 55:27.100]  They leased the boat, the ship, and they were operating the ship in commerce, all in goods
[55:27.100 --> 55:31.740]  for the Defense Department or something, and they bashed into another boat or a boat ran
[55:31.740 --> 55:32.740]  into them.
[55:32.740 --> 55:37.180]  But it turns out they had ran across in front of the boat, the boat couldn't help it.
[55:37.180 --> 55:46.080]  They sued the other boat, they went to court, the government lost the other boat owner countersuit.
[55:46.080 --> 55:49.540]  And when they countersued the government said, oh, you can't sue us, we've got sovereign
[55:49.540 --> 55:50.540]  immunity.
[55:50.540 --> 55:53.060]  And the court said, no, you don't.
[55:53.060 --> 55:58.780]  Because you were out there in commerce with them, you stand on the same ground.
[55:58.780 --> 56:01.480]  That's what it went to.
[56:01.480 --> 56:05.560]  Not just because the government sued, they could be sued.
[56:05.560 --> 56:07.780]  That's what I was looking for.
[56:07.780 --> 56:11.580]  So they send me this crapola that seemed to be what I was looking for.
[56:11.580 --> 56:16.700]  And then when I dug deeper, it was horse manure.
[56:16.700 --> 56:22.120]  The worst part is I had already talked about that case a few times before I looked it up.
[56:22.120 --> 56:25.540]  So I was more PO'd at me than anything else.
[56:25.540 --> 56:30.100]  I remember you mentioning that, that what you used to say when they took the fight,
[56:30.100 --> 56:31.100]  you can go after them.
[56:31.100 --> 56:32.100]  Yeah.
[56:32.100 --> 56:34.180]  And then I find out it's not true.
[56:34.180 --> 56:36.780]  I was mortified.
[56:36.780 --> 56:42.460]  And sometimes I think we have people out there that work for the government that do this
[56:42.460 --> 56:44.420]  to us on purpose.
[56:44.420 --> 56:47.940]  Either that or they're just playing dumb.
[56:47.940 --> 56:50.240]  Or they're just playing dumb.
[56:50.240 --> 56:56.140]  The problem is these things are so insidious.
[56:56.140 --> 57:03.580]  This particular one, the quote was so well structured, it sounded precisely like something
[57:03.580 --> 57:07.080]  I would expect to see in case law.
[57:07.080 --> 57:09.860]  That was no mistake.
[57:09.860 --> 57:15.500]  That was very conscious and deliberate, and it was too well structured for somebody to
[57:15.500 --> 57:18.820]  do it out of stupidity.
[57:18.820 --> 57:23.500]  That one I felt like I got set up on.
[57:23.500 --> 57:25.300]  And I was just a little annoyed.
[57:25.300 --> 57:28.100]  I get annoyed sometimes.
[57:28.100 --> 57:34.020]  But what I was doing the other day, and this is not something that so much annoys me as
[57:34.020 --> 57:36.220]  it concerns me.
[57:36.220 --> 57:44.340]  I'm looking at a document here, and it's about, are you chattel property?
[57:44.340 --> 57:55.020]  And if one understands the rudiments of capitalization in the English language, one knows that capitalization
[57:55.020 --> 58:03.540]  of the first letter in people designates a very specific and special people.
[58:03.540 --> 58:06.460]  Everyone doesn't know any such thing.
[58:06.460 --> 58:12.060]  All right, well listen, we're coming to the end of the top of the hour, the end of the
[58:12.060 --> 58:13.060]  first hour.
[58:13.060 --> 58:14.060]  We're at the top of the hour now.
[58:14.060 --> 58:15.900]  Jason, do you have anything else?
[58:15.900 --> 58:18.100]  I have a law question if I could hold over.
[58:18.100 --> 58:21.360]  Okay, yeah, we can hold you over to the other side for your question.
[58:21.360 --> 58:24.980]  And then we've got Tim in Florida, Jesse from Texas.
[58:24.980 --> 58:30.260]  And then also, we're going to have Eddie come on and speak a little bit about papers that
[58:30.260 --> 58:33.660]  he has in his car for police when they pull him over.
[58:33.660 --> 58:35.700]  So we will be right back after this short break.
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[01:00:37.940 --> 01:01:01.940]  I tried to do the sleeping, the doggling, barking, disturbing me but I'm flexing, they
[01:01:01.940 --> 01:01:08.940]  are disturbing, I gave them some Kit-Kat chocolate and eating, how could I get them to win, no
[01:01:08.940 --> 01:01:15.940]  win can do backing, they back up my arguing, tell me how did I miss him, tell the neighbor
[01:01:15.940 --> 01:01:20.940]  what's happening, six hour, one, two, half a dozen, same thing, same thing, neighbor,
[01:01:20.940 --> 01:01:33.940]  get your dog out of here, hold me back yard, keep disturbing me, but tell him never, never,
[01:01:33.940 --> 01:01:34.940]  get your dog out of me backyard.
[01:01:34.940 --> 01:01:35.940]  Okay.
[01:01:35.940 --> 01:01:36.940]  We are back.
[01:01:36.940 --> 01:01:40.180]  The rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:01:40.180 --> 01:01:41.420]  All right.
[01:01:41.420 --> 01:01:43.580]  We are going to your calls.
[01:01:43.580 --> 01:01:45.380]  We are with Jason in Ohio.
[01:01:45.380 --> 01:01:48.340]  Jason, you had another question.
[01:01:48.340 --> 01:01:49.340]  I do.
[01:01:49.340 --> 01:01:50.340]  Thanks Deborah.
[01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:55.900]  I kind of try to stay up on arrest, search and seizure law and recently the Supreme Court
[01:01:55.900 --> 01:02:00.820]  came out with Arizona v. Johnson in January.
[01:02:00.820 --> 01:02:03.500]  Are you familiar with that case, Randy?
[01:02:03.500 --> 01:02:04.500]  No I'm not.
[01:02:04.500 --> 01:02:05.500]  Okay.
[01:02:05.500 --> 01:02:08.940]  Let me set it up briefly.
[01:02:08.940 --> 01:02:12.940]  The Supreme Court in my opinion has really taken a slippery slope with the reasonableness
[01:02:12.940 --> 01:02:15.600]  of the Fourth Amendment.
[01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:19.500]  Every time they come out with a new decree, it seems like they're expanding reasonable
[01:02:19.500 --> 01:02:21.780]  to new heights.
[01:02:21.780 --> 01:02:30.260]  And the Mims case previously ruled that when you're pulled over, everything in the car
[01:02:30.260 --> 01:02:32.420]  is seized for purposes of Fourth Amendment.
[01:02:32.420 --> 01:02:39.620]  So at the moment that the lights flash and you're detained, that that's a seizure.
[01:02:39.620 --> 01:02:44.500]  Arizona took it a step further, well actually they said that in previous cases, they said
[01:02:44.500 --> 01:02:49.300]  that the driver, the contents and passenger in the entire car isn't seized.
[01:02:49.300 --> 01:02:58.220]  Arizona v. Johnson went a step further and said that the passenger, the Mims said the
[01:02:58.220 --> 01:03:00.940]  cop can order you out of the car.
[01:03:00.940 --> 01:03:05.220]  Arizona v. Johnson said that the cop can order the passengers out of the car as well for
[01:03:05.220 --> 01:03:08.060]  his protection and safety.
[01:03:08.060 --> 01:03:14.860]  My question is when I read the case, I can't tell if they're saying the seizure has already
[01:03:14.860 --> 01:03:16.700]  happened because of the pulling over.
[01:03:16.700 --> 01:03:21.300]  So therefore, it's not a violation of Fourth Amendment for the cop to order you out even
[01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:27.540]  without probable cause, or they're simply saying the cop can say whatever the heck he
[01:03:27.540 --> 01:03:34.340]  wants and you can choose to act on it however the heck you want.
[01:03:34.340 --> 01:03:38.100]  Am I making my question clear or is it safe?
[01:03:38.100 --> 01:03:39.100]  No.
[01:03:39.100 --> 01:03:49.180]  It appears as though they're calling this a Terry stop and he can order them out so
[01:03:49.180 --> 01:03:52.100]  they can't pull a weapon on it.
[01:03:52.100 --> 01:03:54.180]  But it doesn't meet the criteria of Terry.
[01:03:54.180 --> 01:03:59.980]  In other words, they've said he does not have to determine that you're potentially dangerous
[01:03:59.980 --> 01:04:02.900]  and that you're potentially armed as they do in Terry.
[01:04:02.900 --> 01:04:07.940]  Well they're saying on the first, on the initial stop, if he has probable cause to make the
[01:04:07.940 --> 01:04:11.700]  stop, that's the Terry.
[01:04:11.700 --> 01:04:17.360]  And since the other person is in the car with the driver, he's necessarily stopped whether
[01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:23.100]  it's the intent of the officer to stop the second person or not.
[01:04:23.100 --> 01:04:28.020]  But remember the stop isn't probable cause, it's reasonable suspicion.
[01:04:28.020 --> 01:04:29.900]  That's all it takes for Terry.
[01:04:29.900 --> 01:04:31.540]  Correct.
[01:04:31.540 --> 01:04:38.020]  The point being though that the Supreme Court, which generally is logical, however they kind
[01:04:38.020 --> 01:04:43.060]  of stretch it a bit I believe, they're saying that they can order, the cop can order you
[01:04:43.060 --> 01:04:45.660]  out without the conditions of Terry.
[01:04:45.660 --> 01:04:51.060]  In other words, Terry requires that you have a belief that I am armed and dangerous.
[01:04:51.060 --> 01:04:57.980]  Oh, you're saying he has to have the suspicion on the part of the passenger or the guest.
[01:04:57.980 --> 01:05:00.380]  Yeah, the passenger and the driver.
[01:05:00.380 --> 01:05:04.940]  And the Supreme Court also ruled that it's not sufficient, or this may be a district
[01:05:04.940 --> 01:05:10.260]  court, it's not sufficient for the cop simply to say that he was in fear for himself.
[01:05:10.260 --> 01:05:15.140]  He has to have articulable evidence, the fact that you're armed and dangerous.
[01:05:15.140 --> 01:05:17.460]  And that goes to Terry as well.
[01:05:17.460 --> 01:05:18.460]  Yep.
[01:05:18.460 --> 01:05:24.220]  That Terry has to be articulatable, can't just be, well, I had a bad feeling.
[01:05:24.220 --> 01:05:25.220]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:05:25.220 --> 01:05:31.460]  And the reason this is a concern for me, I like the idea, and I've heard this before,
[01:05:31.460 --> 01:05:36.140]  if a cop shows up with a warrant, you simply respond, if you've got the warrant, then break
[01:05:36.140 --> 01:05:37.420]  down the door and come in.
[01:05:37.420 --> 01:05:41.100]  That way there's no question in a judge's or a jury's mind that that was not a consensual
[01:05:41.100 --> 01:05:47.540]  admission for a search, if it's in your home.
[01:05:47.540 --> 01:05:50.900]  In the car, however, the same would hold true.
[01:05:50.900 --> 01:05:54.860]  If you've got probable cause to arrest, then you break down that window and open that door
[01:05:54.860 --> 01:05:55.980]  and arrest me.
[01:05:55.980 --> 01:06:01.260]  That way there's no question that you didn't volunteer into a search.
[01:06:01.260 --> 01:06:05.260]  But my question, sorry, go ahead.
[01:06:05.260 --> 01:06:12.240]  Which was the recent case where they said that the police could not search the vehicle?
[01:06:12.240 --> 01:06:13.820]  Could not search the vehicle?
[01:06:13.820 --> 01:06:14.820]  Right.
[01:06:14.820 --> 01:06:18.660]  DPS Texas had a fit over that.
[01:06:18.660 --> 01:06:20.660]  They can't search the vehicle.
[01:06:20.660 --> 01:06:28.420]  They can only look in those places the driver could reach and reach a weapon.
[01:06:28.420 --> 01:06:29.420]  Yeah.
[01:06:29.420 --> 01:06:30.420]  If there's no probable cause.
[01:06:30.420 --> 01:06:31.420]  Yeah.
[01:06:31.420 --> 01:06:34.900]  You can't open the ashtray and look in the ashtray because there can't be a pistol or
[01:06:34.900 --> 01:06:35.900]  a knife in there.
[01:06:35.900 --> 01:06:38.220]  If there's a knife in the ashtray, it ain't big enough to make any difference.
[01:06:38.220 --> 01:06:39.700]  So you can't look in there.
[01:06:39.700 --> 01:06:40.700]  Yeah.
[01:06:40.700 --> 01:06:42.420]  It's only for the purpose of weapons.
[01:06:42.420 --> 01:06:43.420]  Yeah.
[01:06:43.420 --> 01:06:45.660]  And they cannot just search the car.
[01:06:45.660 --> 01:06:52.260]  And that's what the Supreme Court held and the locals had a fit about it.
[01:06:52.260 --> 01:06:59.540]  So on one hand, they've allowed the officer to ask the, I hate to say passenger, Eddie's
[01:06:59.540 --> 01:07:07.780]  going to slap me through the microphone, the guest to step out of the vehicle for his protection.
[01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:11.900]  But it doesn't say he can search the person beyond a pat down.
[01:07:11.900 --> 01:07:19.420]  And it doesn't say he can go in and then search the vehicle other than a cursory examination
[01:07:19.420 --> 01:07:21.180]  for weapons.
[01:07:21.180 --> 01:07:26.700]  And even then, yeah, I see he's going to have to have something articulatable.
[01:07:26.700 --> 01:07:30.060]  And you're saying that the Supreme Court's saying that he doesn't.
[01:07:30.060 --> 01:07:32.940]  No, the Supreme Court's saying he can yank you out.
[01:07:32.940 --> 01:07:35.940]  He can order you out of your vehicle, but they use the word may.
[01:07:35.940 --> 01:07:37.100]  He may order you out.
[01:07:37.100 --> 01:07:42.700]  And my question is, is the Supreme Court ruling that he may order you and the quote unquote
[01:07:42.700 --> 01:07:47.540]  passenger out simply because the seizure has already occurred and therefore they're not
[01:07:47.540 --> 01:07:51.380]  doing anything that would go to Terry any further because it's already happened?
[01:07:51.380 --> 01:07:57.020]  Or are they simply saying, are they saying for officer safety, he may order you out and
[01:07:57.020 --> 01:07:58.540]  you may refuse?
[01:07:58.540 --> 01:08:02.780]  You see what I'm getting at?
[01:08:02.780 --> 01:08:09.380]  Yeah, if they're saying that the officer has authority to order you out, then you're not
[01:08:09.380 --> 01:08:11.580]  going to be able to refuse.
[01:08:11.580 --> 01:08:17.340]  If they had intended that you have the right to refuse, they would have said so.
[01:08:17.340 --> 01:08:20.060]  They're giving him authority to order you out.
[01:08:20.060 --> 01:08:29.020]  But they're not calling that a seizure in that he's not putting you in cuffs or anything.
[01:08:29.020 --> 01:08:30.900]  He's just having you move from one place to another.
[01:08:30.900 --> 01:08:35.740]  But once you've moved, he's having you move from one place.
[01:08:35.740 --> 01:08:39.260]  But once you've moved from that place, you're not under arrest.
[01:08:39.260 --> 01:08:44.300]  You can walk around unless he orders you not to.
[01:08:44.300 --> 01:08:50.500]  But essentially, he hasn't taken you and cuffed you and put you in his car where you can't
[01:08:50.500 --> 01:08:51.500]  move around.
[01:08:51.500 --> 01:08:57.060]  But Randy, what I'm reading from it is that the seizure has already occurred once the
[01:08:57.060 --> 01:08:58.940]  lights go on.
[01:08:58.940 --> 01:09:03.060]  That was adjudicated in a previous case, it was Brendan in California or something.
[01:09:03.060 --> 01:09:07.820]  But what I'm reading is when you read the decision in Arizona, they're saying there's
[01:09:07.820 --> 01:09:15.260]  no further Fourth Amendment violation because, effectively, everybody was already seized.
[01:09:15.260 --> 01:09:22.380]  So from that, that kind of blows away Terry.
[01:09:22.380 --> 01:09:25.060]  It seems like a big contradiction to me.
[01:09:25.060 --> 01:09:28.580]  Well, in that case, you've been seized for Fourth Amendment purposes.
[01:09:28.580 --> 01:09:31.700]  Terry says you haven't been.
[01:09:31.700 --> 01:09:32.700]  So they've just...
[01:09:32.700 --> 01:09:33.700]  Yeah, I see what you mean.
[01:09:33.700 --> 01:09:35.700]  They've just contradicted Terry.
[01:09:35.700 --> 01:09:41.940]  That'd be a good one to beat him over the head with.
[01:09:41.940 --> 01:09:52.940]  You turn around and file false imprisonment against the officer.
[01:09:52.940 --> 01:10:01.300]  They will absolutely, undoubtedly, they'll qualify this case and render it moot or render
[01:10:01.300 --> 01:10:08.580]  it non-effective because somebody comes back and challenges it as overturning Terry.
[01:10:08.580 --> 01:10:12.340]  And this happens all the time.
[01:10:12.340 --> 01:10:17.260]  They're trying to give the policeman a way to protect themselves a little better without
[01:10:17.260 --> 01:10:23.900]  too great an intrusion and they wind up causing a problem somewhere else.
[01:10:23.900 --> 01:10:24.900]  Yeah.
[01:10:24.900 --> 01:10:25.900]  Okay.
[01:10:25.900 --> 01:10:32.420]  And I think that's the good thing about case law because you got slimy scoundrel, sharp
[01:10:32.420 --> 01:10:38.340]  practicing attorneys who will use every attempt on the part of the courts to make their lives
[01:10:38.340 --> 01:10:39.580]  easier.
[01:10:39.580 --> 01:10:44.560]  These attorneys will use it to make their lives more difficult and that keeps our law
[01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:48.300]  more consistent.
[01:10:48.300 --> 01:10:50.300]  Any other comments?
[01:10:50.300 --> 01:10:53.140]  One other question and it's very brief.
[01:10:53.140 --> 01:10:59.700]  When you're citing authority in law, can you use concurrent opinions and as a follow-up,
[01:10:59.700 --> 01:11:04.060]  can you use dissenting opinions?
[01:11:04.060 --> 01:11:09.400]  You can only use dissenting opinions as explanatory.
[01:11:09.400 --> 01:11:15.660]  You can't use them as law because clearly the dissenting opinion got overturned or got
[01:11:15.660 --> 01:11:16.660]  lost.
[01:11:16.660 --> 01:11:17.660]  He lost.
[01:11:17.660 --> 01:11:18.660]  He lost.
[01:11:18.660 --> 01:11:22.420]  What about concurring opinions that aren't in the main body but it was another, you can
[01:11:22.420 --> 01:11:23.420]  use concurring opinions.
[01:11:23.420 --> 01:11:29.740]  If the concurring opinion is on the same point, there's a lot of times they will concur for
[01:11:29.740 --> 01:11:32.860]  a different reason.
[01:11:32.860 --> 01:11:38.540]  You can only use that in support of case law somewhere else.
[01:11:38.540 --> 01:11:39.540]  Okay.
[01:11:39.540 --> 01:11:43.620]  That's another popular trick that you get in the legal reform community is that you'll
[01:11:43.620 --> 01:11:47.820]  read a lot of dissenting opinion as being law.
[01:11:47.820 --> 01:11:53.500]  Yeah, and they quote it as they don't tell you that it's dissenting opinion.
[01:11:53.500 --> 01:11:54.500]  Right.
[01:11:54.500 --> 01:12:03.100]  Yeah, there's one of my frustrations and I will in the future keep working on this thing
[01:12:03.100 --> 01:12:06.500]  of the careful and effective use of language.
[01:12:06.500 --> 01:12:10.540]  So we're going to hammer on that for a while and try to get that.
[01:12:10.540 --> 01:12:14.620]  A lot of the really obvious stuff taken care of.
[01:12:14.620 --> 01:12:23.340]  Once you begin to notice these linguistic patterns, they get much easier to pick up.
[01:12:23.340 --> 01:12:28.820]  And once I get our listeners to where they're kind of sensitive to them, when I say that
[01:12:28.820 --> 01:12:32.860]  somebody creates a false dilemma, then they'll know what I'm talking about.
[01:12:32.860 --> 01:12:39.620]  It'll make more sense or they're using specious logic or non sequitur.
[01:12:39.620 --> 01:12:42.460]  Anyway, we want to work on those.
[01:12:42.460 --> 01:12:43.460]  Yep.
[01:12:43.460 --> 01:12:44.460]  Okay, guys.
[01:12:44.460 --> 01:12:45.820]  Well, I've taken up enough of your time.
[01:12:45.820 --> 01:12:46.820]  Thanks so much.
[01:12:46.820 --> 01:12:47.820]  Okay.
[01:12:47.820 --> 01:12:48.820]  Thank you, Jason.
[01:12:48.820 --> 01:12:51.660]  Okay, we're going to move on now to Tim in Florida.
[01:12:51.660 --> 01:12:52.980]  Tim, thanks for calling in.
[01:12:52.980 --> 01:12:55.660]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:12:55.660 --> 01:13:04.260]  I've got a situation here where I watch a person's property, it belongs to a corporation,
[01:13:04.260 --> 01:13:07.300]  and I'm like 24-hour security here.
[01:13:07.300 --> 01:13:16.740]  And there is a lake which my boss, his family made actually about 20 years ago.
[01:13:16.740 --> 01:13:22.800]  Property on it was sold on the other side of it, which gave people access to it.
[01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:28.500]  And there is a large amount of speed boats and ski boats on the lake.
[01:13:28.500 --> 01:13:30.900]  It's not very large lake.
[01:13:30.900 --> 01:13:38.080]  And we've had a lot of erosion caused on the property here by boats that they do what they
[01:13:38.080 --> 01:13:39.260]  call wakeboarding.
[01:13:39.260 --> 01:13:44.540]  They drop their trim tabs way down and gun the engine, the boats, throwing out like three
[01:13:44.540 --> 01:13:46.860]  and four foot wakes.
[01:13:46.860 --> 01:13:51.100]  And they continually eat holes under the bank.
[01:13:51.100 --> 01:13:59.220]  I was standing on the bank one day with my dog, and the water was like really high because
[01:13:59.220 --> 01:14:01.100]  of the rain.
[01:14:01.100 --> 01:14:06.300]  And I've told them a lot of times that they need to break their wakes on this side of
[01:14:06.300 --> 01:14:11.460]  the lake because there's no seawalls or anything else here.
[01:14:11.460 --> 01:14:15.420]  And they wash all the soil out from under the trees and stuff.
[01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:21.620]  And a piece of ground about eight foot long and about five foot wide, that was about three
[01:14:21.620 --> 01:14:24.540]  foot from the shore when it gave way.
[01:14:24.540 --> 01:14:31.820]  And I dropped about two foot down into the water and into the rocks and subsequently
[01:14:31.820 --> 01:14:38.700]  hit my back, in the lower back, against the resulting bank from where the soil had fallen
[01:14:38.700 --> 01:14:40.260]  away.
[01:14:40.260 --> 01:14:45.940]  And in my anger, I stood up in the water and I cursed them out.
[01:14:45.940 --> 01:14:48.100]  They called the sheriff's department.
[01:14:48.100 --> 01:14:55.820]  The sheriff's department came out and they told me basically that I was harassing the
[01:14:55.820 --> 01:14:57.940]  people in the boats.
[01:14:57.940 --> 01:15:02.580]  Then they told me, I told them, I said, I was standing on the shore, you know, and they've
[01:15:02.580 --> 01:15:09.820]  washed all the soil out from under the bank and it gave way on me.
[01:15:09.820 --> 01:15:16.260]  And he told me, one of the sheriff's deputies told me that I should not be standing on the
[01:15:16.260 --> 01:15:17.260]  shore.
[01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:26.260]  And I told him about a week or so before that where I was in the lake in a canoe.
[01:15:26.260 --> 01:15:32.740]  Now a canoe is a very small vessel and when it gets broadsided by a three and four foot
[01:15:32.740 --> 01:15:35.340]  wave, it's going over.
[01:15:35.340 --> 01:15:39.020]  And he told me that I should not be in the lake.
[01:15:39.020 --> 01:15:40.900]  He said, we'll stay out of the lake.
[01:15:40.900 --> 01:15:43.620]  You know, this is what the sheriff's deputy told me.
[01:15:43.620 --> 01:15:44.620]  Okay.
[01:15:44.620 --> 01:15:45.620]  Yeah.
[01:15:45.620 --> 01:15:52.260]  You're talking to a moron police officer and you're thinking you can reason with this moron.
[01:15:52.260 --> 01:15:55.940]  There's got to be laws on wakes.
[01:15:55.940 --> 01:15:57.540]  Every lake has them.
[01:15:57.540 --> 01:15:58.540]  This is Florida.
[01:15:58.540 --> 01:16:03.980]  He told me that this was a landlocked lake and wake rules did not apply.
[01:16:03.980 --> 01:16:05.700]  Horse manure.
[01:16:05.700 --> 01:16:10.580]  And he told me, well, those boats are just doing what nature is going to do anyway.
[01:16:10.580 --> 01:16:18.780]  Lake Okeechobee, the boating rules don't apply on Lake Okeechobee.
[01:16:18.780 --> 01:16:23.100]  That's a big lake, but it's landlocked.
[01:16:23.100 --> 01:16:24.760]  That's a very big lake.
[01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:28.860]  So the boat, the guy's full of crapola.
[01:16:28.860 --> 01:16:32.300]  Okay, listen, we're going to break.
[01:16:32.300 --> 01:16:35.140]  Tim, do you need to hang on to the other side?
[01:16:35.140 --> 01:16:36.140]  Sure.
[01:16:36.140 --> 01:16:37.140]  Okay.
[01:16:37.140 --> 01:16:39.060]  And we do have some other callers on the line.
[01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:41.820]  We'll finish up with Tim on the other side.
[01:16:41.820 --> 01:16:47.780]  And I also want Eddie to talk about the papers that he has in his car.
[01:16:47.780 --> 01:16:49.780]  So we're going to do that in the next segment as well.
[01:16:49.780 --> 01:16:50.780]  All right.
[01:16:50.780 --> 01:16:53.500]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
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[01:18:23.660 --> 01:18:28.740]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your plan.
[01:18:28.740 --> 01:18:34.020]  You put the fear in my pockets, took the money from my hand.
[01:18:34.020 --> 01:18:38.740]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:18:38.740 --> 01:19:03.940]  Ain't gonna fool me, ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker punch.
[01:19:03.940 --> 01:19:08.900]  I get it now, but then I must have been too much.
[01:19:08.900 --> 01:19:13.940]  Back then you had room to move, but now you're feeling the crunch.
[01:19:13.940 --> 01:19:38.900]  Ain't gonna get me with that same old sucker punch.
[01:19:38.900 --> 01:19:43.860]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old dance and song.
[01:19:43.860 --> 01:19:49.140]  You thought you were right, but now you got it all wrong.
[01:19:49.140 --> 01:19:54.020]  It was a weak moment for me, but I had the power all along.
[01:19:54.020 --> 01:20:18.980]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old dance and song.
[01:20:18.980 --> 01:20:23.940]  Ain't gonna bore me with that same old bundle of lies.
[01:20:23.940 --> 01:20:28.900]  Your arrogance is absurd, don't know why you even try.
[01:20:28.900 --> 01:20:34.180]  I'm gonna see my sweet republic reanalyze.
[01:20:34.180 --> 01:20:49.140]  Ain't gonna blind me with that same old bucket of lies.
[01:20:49.140 --> 01:21:03.140]  Ain't gonna blind me.
[01:21:03.140 --> 01:21:09.700]  Ain't gonna fool me.
[01:21:09.700 --> 01:21:16.180]  Okay, we are back, The Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens and Eddie Craig.
[01:21:16.180 --> 01:21:22.740]  Okay, we are gonna finish with Tim in Florida and then we're gonna go over Eddie's documents.
[01:21:22.740 --> 01:21:24.740]  So go ahead, Tim.
[01:21:24.740 --> 01:21:33.940]  Yeah, I was telling him that the people in the boat and everything about the sheriff's
[01:21:33.940 --> 01:21:41.380]  coming out and telling me that I had that I should stay off of the bank and stay out
[01:21:41.380 --> 01:21:42.380]  of the water.
[01:21:42.380 --> 01:21:43.380]  Okay, wait a minute.
[01:21:43.380 --> 01:21:45.540]  What was your whole point here?
[01:21:45.540 --> 01:21:49.580]  I never did get to what the point was.
[01:21:49.580 --> 01:21:56.620]  The point is, I'm trying to figure out what I can do legally when I go out on the lake
[01:21:56.620 --> 01:21:57.620]  in a canoe.
[01:21:57.620 --> 01:22:04.620]  If I drop an anchor and start fishing out there on the lake in a canoe, then a big boat
[01:22:04.620 --> 01:22:05.620]  comes by.
[01:22:05.620 --> 01:22:10.980]  I have to pull up the anchor, reel in my lines and turn the boat bow into the waves.
[01:22:10.980 --> 01:22:15.340]  Have you read the boating rules?
[01:22:15.340 --> 01:22:22.140]  Every state has boating rules on wake because the wake you throw is way too dangerous.
[01:22:22.140 --> 01:22:23.340]  They're gonna have rules on that.
[01:22:23.340 --> 01:22:29.780]  So take a digital camera with you, photograph the boat, call the game wardens or whoever
[01:22:29.780 --> 01:22:32.380]  does the lake and file on them.
[01:22:32.380 --> 01:22:37.100]  Yeah, just keep the camera in a waterproof bag since you're in a canoe.
[01:22:37.100 --> 01:22:40.980]  Yeah, I'm lucky I had my cell phone out there.
[01:22:40.980 --> 01:22:47.980]  But when I fell in through the soil on the bank side, I mean, there's like a five foot
[01:22:47.980 --> 01:22:53.900]  by eight foot section of ground that just gave way under me.
[01:22:53.900 --> 01:22:55.340]  There's a problem with that.
[01:22:55.340 --> 01:22:58.220]  I have no doubt what they're gonna tell you.
[01:22:58.220 --> 01:23:05.700]  If your bank is eroding, it's up to you to fix it because one boat didn't come by and
[01:23:05.700 --> 01:23:06.700]  do this damage.
[01:23:06.700 --> 01:23:13.700]  A lot of boats coming by did it over time so there's nobody you can point a finger at.
[01:23:13.700 --> 01:23:19.340]  One boat that knocked it down wasn't the one that caused the problem.
[01:23:19.340 --> 01:23:24.860]  This is a cumulative problem and if the owner of the property knows the problem is occurring,
[01:23:24.860 --> 01:23:30.380]  then he's the one responsible, not the boats.
[01:23:30.380 --> 01:23:40.460]  Okay, where would I find the information though, especially on the deputies, they came out
[01:23:40.460 --> 01:23:46.300]  and told me that, well, stay off of the bank.
[01:23:46.300 --> 01:23:50.820]  There's nothing you can do about those guys.
[01:23:50.820 --> 01:23:56.660]  You got a guy here that works for minimum wage and then he goes and gets a job as a
[01:23:56.660 --> 01:23:57.660]  deputy.
[01:23:57.660 --> 01:24:03.260]  He got a job at a big city because he's just not one of the sharpest knives in the drawer
[01:24:03.260 --> 01:24:11.620]  so he's a podunk, hit cop, out in the boonies, knows nothing, he gets that badge on and now
[01:24:11.620 --> 01:24:16.620]  all of a sudden he knows everything and the courts have ruled that these guys can lie
[01:24:16.620 --> 01:24:25.340]  to you so if the mouse moving or lying, with the police state that's developing it's getting
[01:24:25.340 --> 01:24:33.860]  almost impossible to try to reason with a police officer, it's just a waste of time.
[01:24:33.860 --> 01:24:42.060]  If I go to the fishing game, I can get a copy of the rules of landlocked water because they
[01:24:42.060 --> 01:24:45.340]  told me that it was landlocked and it was...
[01:24:45.340 --> 01:24:50.500]  Okay, wait, wait, one thing you got to understand, if the cop's mouse moving he's probably lying
[01:24:50.500 --> 01:24:52.940]  to you.
[01:24:52.940 --> 01:24:59.740]  The idea that they would pass all these laws and they would only apply to a lake that's
[01:24:59.740 --> 01:25:06.700]  navigable from the ocean or from some that you can get to by navigable waters, that's
[01:25:06.700 --> 01:25:07.700]  nonsense.
[01:25:07.700 --> 01:25:12.780]  That's why we have to read the law, that's why we have to read the code.
[01:25:12.780 --> 01:25:19.220]  Where do I find this code, what's the chapter and verse?
[01:25:19.220 --> 01:25:23.140]  I don't know for Florida, you'd have to look it up but it should be, just do Florida.
[01:25:23.140 --> 01:25:27.820]  There's also international boating laws and I was going to have our friend Phil call it
[01:25:27.820 --> 01:25:33.420]  in and mention about that tonight, perhaps we can get him on Thursday.
[01:25:33.420 --> 01:25:36.940]  There are international boating laws that apply even to inland lakes and a lot of times
[01:25:36.940 --> 01:25:42.980]  there's not a lot of legislation at the state level regarding boating issues because all
[01:25:42.980 --> 01:25:45.020]  the states subscribe to the international laws.
[01:25:45.020 --> 01:25:50.380]  Yeah, call whoever is your fishing game agency down there in Florida.
[01:25:50.380 --> 01:25:51.380]  Okay.
[01:25:51.380 --> 01:25:56.420]  Your fishing game would usually be the ones that will do that unless there's some separate
[01:25:56.420 --> 01:26:02.340]  set of rules for recreational waterways versus the other.
[01:26:02.340 --> 01:26:13.140]  Okay, so if I get a camera and I take pictures of the erosion and everything.
[01:26:13.140 --> 01:26:18.340]  I don't think you can do anything about the erosion.
[01:26:18.340 --> 01:26:23.420]  They're going to say that's your property and if you're aware that this erosion is occurring
[01:26:23.420 --> 01:26:28.260]  and you don't want this erosion to occur, I mean, you got the lake here, you can't get
[01:26:28.260 --> 01:26:31.540]  rid of the lake, so do something about it.
[01:26:31.540 --> 01:26:35.940]  Yeah, well he may need to have consult with the state or report it or something because
[01:26:35.940 --> 01:26:41.860]  I know for a fact like here in Austin along the creeks, you own property that borders
[01:26:41.860 --> 01:26:45.620]  one of these creeks and there's erosion.
[01:26:45.620 --> 01:26:51.180]  You're not even allowed to beef up the bank or put concrete or put stones or bricks or
[01:26:51.180 --> 01:26:52.820]  whatever else.
[01:26:52.820 --> 01:26:58.740]  The watershed department has to come up and study the entire area like several miles because
[01:26:58.740 --> 01:27:04.060]  what happens is that if you beef up your part of the bank, then it could potentially cause
[01:27:04.060 --> 01:27:11.340]  a lot of erosion damage further down the creek if the problem isn't taken care of all along
[01:27:11.340 --> 01:27:12.340]  the way.
[01:27:12.340 --> 01:27:16.380]  Now with a lake, that may be a little different story, but I'm just saying that even in cases
[01:27:16.380 --> 01:27:21.940]  of private property, sometimes you can even get in trouble for trying to fix erosion.
[01:27:21.940 --> 01:27:26.460]  It is different with inland waterways and it is also different depending upon whether
[01:27:26.460 --> 01:27:32.060]  they're county, state, or city operated.
[01:27:32.060 --> 01:27:35.060]  Right.
[01:27:35.060 --> 01:27:39.780]  That's just to check everything out according to what the law says.
[01:27:39.780 --> 01:27:45.100]  The next question, if I'm out there on the water in a canoe, I have an anchor dropped
[01:27:45.100 --> 01:27:48.700]  out and I am fishing and one of those boats comes by.
[01:27:48.700 --> 01:27:54.220]  I've been turned over more than once by them and they seem to give me no heed.
[01:27:54.220 --> 01:27:55.220]  They see me.
[01:27:55.220 --> 01:28:01.140]  I'm very visible to them and they come by me throwing a three and four foot wake.
[01:28:01.140 --> 01:28:05.700]  I have to pull an anchor up from 30 to 40 foot of water.
[01:28:05.700 --> 01:28:06.700]  I have to...
[01:28:06.700 --> 01:28:07.700]  Okay, wait, wait.
[01:28:07.700 --> 01:28:08.700]  There's going to be wake laws.
[01:28:08.700 --> 01:28:09.980]  I'm going to get the code for it.
[01:28:09.980 --> 01:28:10.980]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:28:10.980 --> 01:28:16.300]  You see this guy coming at you, you jerk up your camera and start photographing him.
[01:28:16.300 --> 01:28:22.180]  You see him photographing him, you're going to get his attention.
[01:28:22.180 --> 01:28:25.380]  And Randy, as an engineer, I'm surprised he hadn't offered this already.
[01:28:25.380 --> 01:28:28.380]  Jerry, rig you an outrigger run for that canoe.
[01:28:28.380 --> 01:28:29.380]  Okay.
[01:28:29.380 --> 01:28:32.380]  I've thought about that.
[01:28:32.380 --> 01:28:37.340]  Thought about putting a little pontoon on some stage or something.
[01:28:37.340 --> 01:28:41.260]  Something you can slap on with sea clamps once you get it to the waterway that won't
[01:28:41.260 --> 01:28:42.620]  allow you to be capsized.
[01:28:42.620 --> 01:28:43.620]  You'll be good to go.
[01:28:43.620 --> 01:28:44.620]  Yeah.
[01:28:44.620 --> 01:28:50.220]  Well, when you're fishing and you've got a boat coming by throwing those waves, it just
[01:28:50.220 --> 01:28:51.220]  upsets everything.
[01:28:51.220 --> 01:28:56.460]  Well, probably the thing that will stop it the quickest is a camera.
[01:28:56.460 --> 01:29:01.580]  You start filing complaints against them, the word gets around.
[01:29:01.580 --> 01:29:02.580]  Word has a way of doing that.
[01:29:02.580 --> 01:29:11.860]  I had a friend that had a mobile home and a kind of a pretty wide drive in a barn.
[01:29:11.860 --> 01:29:18.420]  And it just happened to be exactly in line with an airport outside of Colorado Springs,
[01:29:18.420 --> 01:29:19.420]  Colorado.
[01:29:19.420 --> 01:29:23.660]  And the pilots thought it was cool to drop down and scoot between his mobile home and
[01:29:23.660 --> 01:29:24.660]  his house.
[01:29:24.660 --> 01:29:29.300]  And he put a sign up with a photograph, do not fly low over this area.
[01:29:29.300 --> 01:29:37.340]  Two weeks later, a guy flew low and he blew the rudder off the plane with a shotgun.
[01:29:37.340 --> 01:29:38.340]  Okay.
[01:29:38.340 --> 01:29:39.340]  Well, listen, we're going to break.
[01:29:39.340 --> 01:29:41.100]  Tim, we need to let you go because we need to move on.
[01:29:41.100 --> 01:29:44.180]  There's a whole bunch of callers on the board and we need to bring up Eddie's material.
[01:29:44.180 --> 01:29:45.180]  Okay.
[01:29:45.180 --> 01:29:48.420]  I think I got some information I can work with.
[01:29:48.420 --> 01:29:49.420]  Okay.
[01:29:49.420 --> 01:29:50.420]  Thank you.
[01:29:50.420 --> 01:29:51.420]  Thank you, Tim.
[01:29:51.420 --> 01:29:52.420]  Okay.
[01:29:52.420 --> 01:29:55.940]  We'll be right back to discuss Eddie's paperwork that he carries in his car and presents to
[01:29:55.940 --> 01:29:56.940]  the police.
[01:29:56.940 --> 01:29:58.500]  We'll be right back.
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[01:31:22.300 --> 01:31:24.180]  Okay, we are back.
[01:31:24.180 --> 01:31:28.020]  The rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:31:28.020 --> 01:31:33.460]  All right, before we return to the call board, we are going to bring Eddie in.
[01:31:33.460 --> 01:31:44.900]  All right, we are gearing up for the traffic and also the grand jury and due process seminar.
[01:31:44.900 --> 01:31:50.060]  The three of us are going to be presenting, Randy, Eddie and myself, and we pretty much
[01:31:50.060 --> 01:31:54.820]  are realizing at this point that it's going to have to be a two-day seminar, okay?
[01:31:54.820 --> 01:32:01.220]  So people be prepared for two days of some really good information, really good material.
[01:32:01.220 --> 01:32:07.260]  And we want people to email us and let us know if you're interested so that we can try
[01:32:07.260 --> 01:32:11.500]  to get an idea of how many people are wanting to attend.
[01:32:11.500 --> 01:32:17.860]  And then we're also going to need commitments from people so that we can go ahead and book
[01:32:17.860 --> 01:32:23.140]  the venue and make this thing actually happen and then set a date.
[01:32:23.140 --> 01:32:29.500]  Once we get sufficient number of commitments, we need to have at least 50 people who are
[01:32:29.500 --> 01:32:34.980]  going to pay in advance and we'll set the price soon.
[01:32:34.980 --> 01:32:40.020]  We don't have it right now, but once we get at least 50 people who are prepaid and committed,
[01:32:40.020 --> 01:32:41.500]  then we will set the date.
[01:32:41.500 --> 01:32:45.180]  We'll make sure with everyone so they're not paying and then not able to make the date
[01:32:45.180 --> 01:32:46.180]  that we set.
[01:32:46.180 --> 01:32:50.100]  We'll make all that work out and then we'll be able to announce the date and have more
[01:32:50.100 --> 01:32:51.100]  people come.
[01:32:51.100 --> 01:32:55.280]  So please email us, Randy, Eddie, and myself.
[01:32:55.280 --> 01:33:03.900]  Let us know if you are interested in this multi-informational barrage that we are going
[01:33:03.900 --> 01:33:06.820]  to present to you guys at this seminar.
[01:33:06.820 --> 01:33:09.760]  So Eddie, you can talk a little bit more about that.
[01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:15.060]  And also I wanted Eddie to go over this document that he has in the car that he carries around
[01:33:15.060 --> 01:33:17.820]  with him to give to the police when they pull him over.
[01:33:17.820 --> 01:33:21.860]  If you could just outline that as well and the law behind it.
[01:33:21.860 --> 01:33:22.860]  Sure.
[01:33:22.860 --> 01:33:27.380]  Basically, what this paperwork does is it creates a lawful judicial notice when you
[01:33:27.380 --> 01:33:28.660]  give it to the police officer.
[01:33:28.660 --> 01:33:37.540]  Basically, during a traffic stop, anything that occurs can be used in court as pursuant
[01:33:37.540 --> 01:33:39.440]  to the stop itself.
[01:33:39.440 --> 01:33:43.060]  They like to use their video recordings and the copy of their ticket, all of which was
[01:33:43.060 --> 01:33:45.980]  generated during this alleged traffic stop.
[01:33:45.980 --> 01:33:50.980]  Therefore, any paperwork you engage them with is also going to be admissible.
[01:33:50.980 --> 01:33:54.820]  It's simply something that you notice them with to let them know what they're doing.
[01:33:54.820 --> 01:33:58.840]  And I'm just going to read the first two paragraphs verbatim because this will help out a lot
[01:33:58.840 --> 01:33:59.840]  of folks.
[01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:03.540]  Now, the thing to remember here is this is written courteously.
[01:34:03.540 --> 01:34:05.740]  This is written to be nice.
[01:34:05.740 --> 01:34:10.740]  This is not written to make them feel like they're stupid or to imply that they're stupid.
[01:34:10.740 --> 01:34:15.820]  It's simply to let them know that there are repercussions for their actions and that you,
[01:34:15.820 --> 01:34:21.180]  as the person being engaged, intend to act upon your rights.
[01:34:21.180 --> 01:34:26.300]  No matter what these officers do, you're going to do what needs to be done to rectify this
[01:34:26.300 --> 01:34:27.300]  problem.
[01:34:27.300 --> 01:34:32.100]  Basically, it starts out, dear police officer, code enforcement officer, government agent,
[01:34:32.100 --> 01:34:37.220]  sheriff, law enforcement officer, or peace officer, and any other governmental agency,
[01:34:37.220 --> 01:34:39.340]  agent, or employee.
[01:34:39.340 --> 01:34:44.020]  Please take notice of the affidavit below before you presume contract or commercial
[01:34:44.020 --> 01:34:51.580]  jurisdiction and attempt to engage this non-statutory and attempt to engage this non-statutory private
[01:34:51.580 --> 01:34:58.980]  sovereign American here and after sovereign into statutory law, i.e. public policy enforcement.
[01:34:58.980 --> 01:35:03.380]  This sovereign is honorably and passively presenting this knowledge to you in an attempt
[01:35:03.380 --> 01:35:05.500]  to protect you from yourself.
[01:35:05.500 --> 01:35:11.100]  Now, you want to notify them of this, and the reason being that, look, as an officer
[01:35:11.100 --> 01:35:14.340]  and a public servant, you are deemed to know the law.
[01:35:14.340 --> 01:35:19.220]  I know the law, and I know you're about to use it in a way for which it was not intended.
[01:35:19.220 --> 01:35:24.300]  You should know this, and if you don't, there's about to become a serious set of consequences
[01:35:24.300 --> 01:35:25.660]  for it.
[01:35:25.660 --> 01:35:32.100]  What this document does is it goes down and it outlines those piece by piece, and it tells
[01:35:32.100 --> 01:35:35.780]  them that, you know, I have a great deal of respect for the public service that these
[01:35:35.780 --> 01:35:41.940]  officers are doing, but the fact is that this is a traffic stop that has nothing to do with
[01:35:41.940 --> 01:35:48.340]  me because I am not engaged in commerce, and that this notice is a mandatory part of any
[01:35:48.340 --> 01:35:53.540]  official record that results from anything that goes on in this stop.
[01:35:53.540 --> 01:35:59.660]  Let's see, and this notice has been submitted upon the demand by the officer of a driver's
[01:35:59.660 --> 01:36:05.180]  license, registration, proof of insurance, or any other state-mandated or issued privilege
[01:36:05.180 --> 01:36:11.700]  permit or license, none of which apply to the person presenting this document to you.
[01:36:11.700 --> 01:36:16.380]  And then it cites Kent v. Dulles, which says, the unalienable right to travel is a part
[01:36:16.380 --> 01:36:20.940]  of the liberty of which the American citizen cannot be deprived without due process of
[01:36:20.940 --> 01:36:25.140]  law under the Fifth Amendment.
[01:36:25.140 --> 01:36:30.020]  And it also goes to state, for those of you liking the UCC side of the argument, that
[01:36:30.020 --> 01:36:35.780]  this sovereign is a secured party, first-class, private sovereign American, and not a second-class
[01:36:35.780 --> 01:36:40.860]  public federal U.S. citizen, which is what the Fourteenth Amendment makes you.
[01:36:40.860 --> 01:36:46.020]  And as such, has served your administrative agency lawful public notice about this secured
[01:36:46.020 --> 01:36:47.620]  party status.
[01:36:47.620 --> 01:36:49.980]  Let's see.
[01:36:49.980 --> 01:36:57.820]  And also, the thing that we engaged in where the rules are shut up, shut up, and shut up,
[01:36:57.820 --> 01:37:02.780]  this is addressed in this notice, and it specifically states, do not take offense or be insulted
[01:37:02.780 --> 01:37:08.940]  because this sovereign chooses to plead the Fifth, i.e., remain silent, and not be compelled
[01:37:08.940 --> 01:37:12.700]  to cooperate with you and your verbal interrogation.
[01:37:12.700 --> 01:37:16.700]  This sovereign is neither required to provide you with any documentation or information
[01:37:16.700 --> 01:37:22.060]  or to identify myself to you unless you are charging this sovereign with a crime.
[01:37:22.060 --> 01:37:25.780]  By your own admission, any documents that you demand or receive from this sovereign
[01:37:25.780 --> 01:37:29.060]  may be used against this sovereign in court.
[01:37:29.060 --> 01:37:33.060]  In accordance with this sovereign's constitutionally protected rights, this sovereign cannot be
[01:37:33.060 --> 01:37:38.820]  required to provide you with any information of that kind, of any kind that may be used
[01:37:38.820 --> 01:37:42.820]  against this sovereign or incriminate this sovereign in any way.
[01:37:42.820 --> 01:37:48.580]  And then it cites U.S. Supreme Court case Lefkowitz v. Turley.
[01:37:48.580 --> 01:37:52.260]  Fifth Amendment provides that no person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
[01:37:52.260 --> 01:37:58.040]  witness against himself in a criminal prosecution, but also privileges him not to answer official
[01:37:58.040 --> 01:38:04.180]  questions put to him in any other proceeding, civil or criminal, formal or informal, where
[01:38:04.180 --> 01:38:09.180]  the answers might incriminate him in future criminal proceedings.
[01:38:09.180 --> 01:38:15.220]  So again, we adhere to shut up, shut up, and shut up as the primary rule.
[01:38:15.220 --> 01:38:21.580]  Do not engage the officer in any form of conversation unless you are already specifically knowing
[01:38:21.580 --> 01:38:29.420]  what to ask in order to set the situation to your benefit, not to theirs.
[01:38:29.420 --> 01:38:33.880]  Believe me, it takes practice, it takes patience, and it takes holding your tongue until you
[01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:35.300]  collect your thoughts.
[01:38:35.300 --> 01:38:39.620]  Do not put your mouth in gear before your brain is engaged, that will get you every
[01:38:39.620 --> 01:38:42.900]  time.
[01:38:42.900 --> 01:38:48.020]  Let's go a little further down in, and basically we get to one of Randy's favorites a little
[01:38:48.020 --> 01:38:54.860]  further down, which is screws versus U.S., but before we get to that, basically the first
[01:38:54.860 --> 01:38:59.420]  class sovereign American is not driving or operating a motor vehicle and is not engaged
[01:38:59.420 --> 01:39:03.700]  in the activity of commerce and is therefore not liable under the Texas Transportation
[01:39:03.700 --> 01:39:07.860]  Code or subject to your jurisdiction under SANE.
[01:39:07.860 --> 01:39:14.040]  If a public official assumes jurisdiction during his or her pursuits, insists on engaging
[01:39:14.040 --> 01:39:20.340]  the sovereign without a viable sworn claim of liability, i.e. an affidavit or a warrant,
[01:39:20.340 --> 01:39:24.660]  she or he is trespassing and is therefore no longer immune to prosecution and will be
[01:39:24.660 --> 01:39:29.500]  held personally accountable in his or her private capacity for acting outside his or
[01:39:29.500 --> 01:39:34.700]  her official capacity and will be charged with a hostile act of aggression in an Article
[01:39:34.700 --> 01:39:37.620]  3 court.
[01:39:37.620 --> 01:39:44.780]  Let's see, now there is also a traffic case which we looked up that I do believe is still
[01:39:44.780 --> 01:39:51.700]  completely valid, which is Triovant v. City of Tampa, which basically shows that a person
[01:39:51.700 --> 01:39:57.980]  that was arrested by a police officer and held in jail for 23 minutes before he was
[01:39:57.980 --> 01:40:03.860]  taken before a magistrate sued for $25,000 in damages and won.
[01:40:03.860 --> 01:40:09.980]  Now for those of you that are good in math, that's over $65,000 an hour and over $1.5
[01:40:09.980 --> 01:40:14.180]  million per 24 hours.
[01:40:14.180 --> 01:40:18.420]  So for those of you that get arrested and thrown in jail for several days, that would
[01:40:18.420 --> 01:40:21.500]  be a good precedent to be using.
[01:40:21.500 --> 01:40:27.220]  It also stipulates that please be forewarned if you choose to commit these felonies yourself
[01:40:27.220 --> 01:40:31.500]  by demanding the surrender of one's driver's license and or registration without one's
[01:40:31.500 --> 01:40:37.660]  willful consent and you insist with acting out the criminal offenses of aggravated assault,
[01:40:37.660 --> 01:40:43.280]  which is physically threatened one while displaying a deadly weapon, fraud, enter one into contract
[01:40:43.280 --> 01:40:49.660]  by writing a complaint or levying fines without one's permission, and identity theft as one's
[01:40:49.660 --> 01:40:55.860]  name is private property, and aggravated kidnapping, arrest without a warrant or a crime committed
[01:40:55.860 --> 01:41:01.100]  in your presence and while displaying a deadly weapon, you will be held personally accountable,
[01:41:01.100 --> 01:41:07.540]  liable and sued for damages, both under your official and private capacities.
[01:41:07.540 --> 01:41:11.180]  And then it goes down to tell them how they are allowed to communicate with you, which
[01:41:11.180 --> 01:41:15.900]  is via mail at your particular address.
[01:41:15.900 --> 01:41:22.860]  And let's see, and we also address Hale versus Hinkle, which specifies the individual may
[01:41:22.860 --> 01:41:26.100]  stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen.
[01:41:26.100 --> 01:41:29.500]  He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way.
[01:41:29.500 --> 01:41:31.780]  His power to contract is unlimited.
[01:41:31.780 --> 01:41:37.160]  He owes no duty to the state or to his neighbors to divulge his business or to open his doors
[01:41:37.160 --> 01:41:41.180]  to an investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him.
[01:41:41.180 --> 01:41:45.780]  He owes no duty to the state since he receives nothing there from beyond the protection of
[01:41:45.780 --> 01:41:48.020]  his life and property.
[01:41:48.020 --> 01:41:53.060]  If they take your automobile after a traffic stop, tow it away and arrest you, that is
[01:41:53.060 --> 01:41:56.500]  not protection of your life or your property.
[01:41:56.500 --> 01:42:01.460]  His rights are such as existed by the law of the land, long antecedent to the organization
[01:42:01.460 --> 01:42:06.060]  of the state and can only be taken from him by due process of law and in accordance with
[01:42:06.060 --> 01:42:07.540]  the constitution.
[01:42:07.540 --> 01:42:14.740]  He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights.
[01:42:14.740 --> 01:42:22.580]  So Hale versus Hinkle is a very, very good case to build upon for this.
[01:42:22.580 --> 01:42:27.740]  If they insist on arresting you for failure to identify and all this stuff, the statute
[01:42:27.740 --> 01:42:31.020]  in Texas is very, very clear.
[01:42:31.020 --> 01:42:37.160]  Failure to identify is an arrestable or a chargeable offense only after you have been
[01:42:37.160 --> 01:42:44.620]  already lawfully arrested and still refuse to give your name and address.
[01:42:44.620 --> 01:42:50.100]  If they arrest you for the purpose of not giving out that information, that is a false
[01:42:50.100 --> 01:42:55.300]  arrest which now makes it aggravated assault and aggravated kidnapping since there is no
[01:42:55.300 --> 01:42:59.420]  false arrest statute in Texas.
[01:42:59.420 --> 01:43:03.860]  There's actually several cases cited within that deal with both of those areas, the right
[01:43:03.860 --> 01:43:08.500]  to travel and the right not to give out the information in violation of your Fifth Amendment
[01:43:08.500 --> 01:43:09.500]  rights.
[01:43:09.500 --> 01:43:16.140]  Now, if they want to continue to treat traffic laws in Texas as crimes, there is no way to
[01:43:16.140 --> 01:43:21.100]  argue against Fifth Amendment protection because you are definitely under every Supreme Court
[01:43:21.100 --> 01:43:23.140]  case I can find.
[01:43:23.140 --> 01:43:27.740]  If you're being charged with a criminal act or being investigated for a criminal act,
[01:43:27.740 --> 01:43:31.220]  then you have the right to plead the Fifth and all its protections.
[01:43:31.220 --> 01:43:33.220]  Okay, very good.
[01:43:33.220 --> 01:43:36.620]  All right, well listen, we're going to break.
[01:43:36.620 --> 01:43:39.020]  We got one more segment left and we come back.
[01:43:39.020 --> 01:43:41.620]  Eddie, do you have any more to finish up on this?
[01:43:41.620 --> 01:43:43.620]  Yeah, there's like two minutes more worth and we'll be done.
[01:43:43.620 --> 01:43:46.420]  Okay, so Eddie's going to finish up and then we'll go back to the call board.
[01:43:46.420 --> 01:44:04.820]  This is the rule of law, Raina Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, we'll be right back.
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[01:45:17.740 --> 01:45:23.740]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:45:23.740 --> 01:45:27.740]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:45:27.740 --> 01:45:31.740]  Somebody's on a police, a policeman.
[01:45:31.740 --> 01:45:35.740]  Somebody's on a police, a bully.
[01:45:35.740 --> 01:45:40.740]  There's always a room at the top of the hill.
[01:45:40.740 --> 01:45:45.740]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left too.
[01:45:45.740 --> 01:45:49.740]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to bills.
[01:45:49.740 --> 01:45:53.740]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:45:53.740 --> 01:45:57.740]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:45:57.740 --> 01:46:01.740]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:46:01.740 --> 01:46:06.740]  Somebody's on a police, a policeman.
[01:46:06.740 --> 01:46:16.740]  Somebody's on a police, a bully.
[01:46:36.740 --> 01:46:39.120]  And anyone including judges who knowingly violate these rights may be civilly and
[01:46:39.120 --> 01:46:42.700]  criminally liable under several federal statutes.
[01:46:42.700 --> 01:46:48.400]  Now, and then once again politely it tells them if you choose to ignore these warnings
[01:46:48.400 --> 01:46:51.780]  it will show bad faith on your part and prima facie evidence of your deliberate
[01:46:51.780 --> 01:46:54.780]  indifference to constitutionally mandated write.
[01:46:54.780 --> 01:46:58.900]  A copy of this instrument will be prima facie evidence of your bad faith.
[01:46:58.900 --> 01:47:02.820]  You will be held personally accountable, liable, and sued for damages in both
[01:47:02.820 --> 01:47:05.460]  your official and personal capacities.
[01:47:05.460 --> 01:47:10.660]  remember you are doing business as a public servant and as such you are
[01:47:10.660 --> 01:47:13.100]  expected to treat me with due respect
[01:47:13.100 --> 01:47:16.460]  and i respectfully thank you for reading this lawful judicial notice an
[01:47:16.460 --> 01:47:19.780]  affidavit
[01:47:19.780 --> 01:47:23.700]  i can sign this before i give it to them or i can attempt to have them sign my
[01:47:23.700 --> 01:47:26.580]  copy it's got space at the bottom for
[01:47:26.580 --> 01:47:30.120]  uh... but basically speaking it when they ask me for anything this is the
[01:47:30.120 --> 01:47:34.020]  first thing that's given to a miss the only thing that's given to a
[01:47:34.020 --> 01:47:36.780]  uh... they're not happy about it
[01:47:36.780 --> 01:47:40.740]  they still like to write you the ticket but so far only one set of police
[01:47:40.740 --> 01:47:45.300]  officers was actually stupid enough to put me in cusp and take me to jail
[01:47:45.300 --> 01:47:46.320]  and uh...
[01:47:46.320 --> 01:47:51.460]  that will be a problem for them very shortly
[01:47:51.460 --> 01:47:52.500]  indians
[01:47:52.500 --> 01:47:56.260]  anybody that's got questions or queries or quandaries let's get with it
[01:47:56.260 --> 01:47:59.800]  okay i we're gonna go to back to the call boards
[01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:04.700]  we've got jim in texas jim thanks for calling in what's on your mind tonight
[01:48:04.700 --> 01:48:09.620]  well i had something that was off point from what you're talking about so
[01:48:09.620 --> 01:48:11.440]  to keep on point let me just
[01:48:11.440 --> 01:48:14.800]  back often and you guys go and i'll call back in
[01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:16.660]  thursday night or so
[01:48:16.660 --> 01:48:17.540]  well it
[01:48:17.540 --> 01:48:21.440]  no actually it's fine really i want to hear what he's the people's comments on
[01:48:21.440 --> 01:48:25.340]  this anyway so okay well there's been some callers waiting on the board for a
[01:48:25.340 --> 01:48:28.260]  while and they may not have anything necessary about this so i mean if you
[01:48:28.260 --> 01:48:30.380]  have a quick question go ahead
[01:48:30.380 --> 01:48:34.300]  not well my only question right now is going to be
[01:48:34.300 --> 01:48:36.020]  women where
[01:48:36.020 --> 01:48:37.260]  uh... is that
[01:48:37.260 --> 01:48:39.220]  your uh...
[01:48:39.220 --> 01:48:40.140]  seminar
[01:48:40.140 --> 01:48:43.680]  well certainly it's going to be here in austin cuz that's where we are and as
[01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:46.080]  far as when like i was saying earlier
[01:48:46.080 --> 01:48:49.620]  i mean we need to we need to secure interested parties first and get some
[01:48:49.620 --> 01:48:53.320]  prepayments before we're going to schedule a date or place or anything
[01:48:53.320 --> 01:48:57.540]  because i've been there before and doing these kinds of seminars for years
[01:48:57.540 --> 01:49:00.620]  not just with randy and you can't i can't we can't just
[01:49:00.620 --> 01:49:03.940]  go up pay for venue and set a date and all the stuff and and i have enough
[01:49:03.940 --> 01:49:07.700]  people to show up to even pay for the overhead expenses so so we have to get
[01:49:07.700 --> 01:49:11.620]  uh... enough people that we know are interested first with commitments
[01:49:11.620 --> 01:49:14.420]  uh... in order to actually set the date but
[01:49:14.420 --> 01:49:17.380]  i would estimate you know at the earliest is going to be a couple of
[01:49:17.380 --> 01:49:19.620]  months because that's how long it takes to
[01:49:19.620 --> 01:49:24.060]  to book in advance and get the sound system and and rent the venue and set
[01:49:24.060 --> 01:49:27.020]  everything up and do all the promotion you know it's a big deal to put on a
[01:49:27.020 --> 01:49:28.060]  seminar
[01:49:28.060 --> 01:49:30.060]  well i'll send an email to that effect
[01:49:30.060 --> 01:49:32.380]  okay great really quick though i guess
[01:49:32.380 --> 01:49:39.380]  randy made the comment a while ago that something about uh... to the fact that uh...
[01:49:39.500 --> 01:49:41.740]  if the state picks a fight
[01:49:41.740 --> 01:49:43.900]  uh... you didn't have the right
[01:49:43.900 --> 01:49:44.700]  to sue
[01:49:44.700 --> 01:49:47.340]  is that what i heard or did i hear wrong
[01:49:47.340 --> 01:49:49.580]  not necessarily
[01:49:49.580 --> 01:49:51.340]  uh... if the
[01:49:51.340 --> 01:49:55.140]  state takes on an issue that it has
[01:49:55.140 --> 01:49:58.380]  uh... subject matter jurisdiction to take on
[01:49:58.380 --> 01:50:01.020]  then it doesn't open itself up
[01:50:01.020 --> 01:50:02.580]  to counter suit
[01:50:02.580 --> 01:50:07.340]  it doesn't waive its uh... sovereign immunity but if the state engages in
[01:50:07.340 --> 01:50:09.540]  commerce
[01:50:09.540 --> 01:50:10.300]  right off
[01:50:10.300 --> 01:50:14.500]  uh... a state officials driving a car down the road
[01:50:14.500 --> 01:50:18.820]  he's on an equal footing with you driving a car down the road
[01:50:18.820 --> 01:50:20.500]  so if there's an accident
[01:50:20.500 --> 01:50:25.380]  in that case they're they're liable but if the state's doing a situation
[01:50:25.380 --> 01:50:27.820]  where they violate your rights
[01:50:27.820 --> 01:50:30.800]  as far as they don't follow their
[01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:32.660]  what they're supposed to do
[01:50:32.660 --> 01:50:34.860]  the state doesn't become
[01:50:34.860 --> 01:50:37.520]  doesn't waive its sovereign immunity
[01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:42.780]  uh... except in in certain conditions the individual who commits the act
[01:50:42.780 --> 01:50:43.860]  may well
[01:50:43.860 --> 01:50:46.860]  waive their uh... qualified immunity
[01:50:46.860 --> 01:50:51.140]  well now randy actually in in traffic now let's analyze this real quick for
[01:50:51.140 --> 01:50:52.420]  just a second
[01:50:52.420 --> 01:50:56.400]  a police officer of or law enforcement officer of any kind
[01:50:56.400 --> 01:51:02.460]  must have a commercial driver's license to operate that vehicle he's in it is a
[01:51:02.460 --> 01:51:04.060]  commercial vehicle
[01:51:04.060 --> 01:51:07.420]  it belongs to a commercial entity
[01:51:07.420 --> 01:51:12.480]  therefore if he commits an act while engaged in that occupational license
[01:51:12.480 --> 01:51:13.500]  requirement
[01:51:13.500 --> 01:51:17.980]  he is involved in commerce
[01:51:17.980 --> 01:51:21.540]  okay if he is performing an official duty
[01:51:21.540 --> 01:51:25.180]  uh... but the official duty of the commercial enforcement
[01:51:25.180 --> 01:51:27.940]  rather he's in commerce or not
[01:51:27.940 --> 01:51:32.500]  it's the acting within the scope of authority
[01:51:32.500 --> 01:51:34.280]  then he's protected
[01:51:34.280 --> 01:51:36.340]  without regard to commerce or not
[01:51:36.340 --> 01:51:42.140]  if he's driving the patrol car to work
[01:51:42.140 --> 01:51:44.540]  then he's not protected
[01:51:44.540 --> 01:51:48.860]  but once he gets to work and and is doing his job within the scope of his
[01:51:48.860 --> 01:51:51.740]  authority he's protected states protect
[01:51:51.740 --> 01:51:54.440]  about a district attorney that but that
[01:51:54.440 --> 01:51:56.940]  holds an illegal arraignment hearing
[01:51:56.940 --> 01:51:58.300]  he's protected
[01:51:58.300 --> 01:52:02.220]  even active even is the even though he is
[01:52:02.220 --> 01:52:03.240]  uh...
[01:52:03.240 --> 01:52:07.220]  a impersonating a judicial officer
[01:52:07.220 --> 01:52:09.820]  he's not qualified to do it
[01:52:09.820 --> 01:52:14.260]  he's protected unless you can move him out of his out of scope it's
[01:52:14.260 --> 01:52:16.980]  really hard to do
[01:52:16.980 --> 01:52:22.780]  out of scope because he didn't have the authority to do it start with
[01:52:22.780 --> 01:52:26.660]  other words when i when i get a ticket and i go into the court and they make
[01:52:26.660 --> 01:52:30.860]  me make a plea and then i think that was made a court under penalty of arrest
[01:52:30.860 --> 01:52:32.540]  or threat of arrest
[01:52:32.540 --> 01:52:36.140]  to go before a judge in the judges that they're just the district attorney that
[01:52:36.140 --> 01:52:40.380]  wants me to make another plea other words holding an illegal arraignment
[01:52:40.380 --> 01:52:44.540]  that's impersonating a judicial officer and that's not within his scope
[01:52:44.540 --> 01:52:48.400]  that that that that's what i was looking at right now you're you're right no
[01:52:48.400 --> 01:52:50.180]  immunity there
[01:52:50.180 --> 01:52:51.600]  that that's what i was
[01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:54.660]  now he's going to claim immunity
[01:52:54.660 --> 01:52:57.260]  but you're going to claim outside scope
[01:52:57.260 --> 01:53:01.060]  and the trick in filing the civil action
[01:53:01.060 --> 01:53:03.300]  is not what you'll
[01:53:03.300 --> 01:53:06.460]  wind up winning in the end
[01:53:06.460 --> 01:53:11.300]  but it is what what avoid summary judgment on the front end
[01:53:11.300 --> 01:53:15.000]  is the nature of the claim that you make
[01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:19.000]  if you claim that he was not acting within the scope of his authority he's
[01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:21.340]  going to say yeah i was yeah i was
[01:53:21.340 --> 01:53:25.020]  that comes up a fact in contention
[01:53:25.020 --> 01:53:30.540]  when there's a fact in contention there cannot be summary judgment
[01:53:30.540 --> 01:53:34.900]  so i mean we want to go in with that allegation
[01:53:34.900 --> 01:53:35.920]  outside scope
[01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:39.460]  well because i thought the complaints against them
[01:53:39.460 --> 01:53:43.040]  basically that there there are several different ones that that that that these
[01:53:43.040 --> 01:53:43.820]  without
[01:53:43.820 --> 01:53:45.100]  you know without
[01:53:45.100 --> 01:53:46.560]  outside of their
[01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:48.660]  their authority other words
[01:53:48.660 --> 01:53:51.140]  they were impersonating judicial officers
[01:53:51.140 --> 01:53:54.900]  uh... and i've never heard anything back from of course i haven't really followed
[01:53:54.900 --> 01:53:56.020]  up too much
[01:53:56.020 --> 01:53:57.100]  but where are you
[01:53:57.100 --> 01:54:00.900]  uh... i'm in uh... that was in montgomery county texas then
[01:54:00.900 --> 01:54:02.100]  of good
[01:54:02.100 --> 01:54:06.520]  uh... we'll see here in texas they have uh... two severe problems that issue
[01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:10.580]  the first thing is that the prosecutors acting on is elected as an executive
[01:54:10.580 --> 01:54:13.260]  officer not a judicial officer
[01:54:13.260 --> 01:54:17.300]  by attempting to act in that capacity he has crossed the division of powers
[01:54:17.300 --> 01:54:19.260]  doctrine of the state constitution
[01:54:19.260 --> 01:54:22.060]  which specifically forbids
[01:54:22.060 --> 01:54:25.700]  the practice of the powers of another branch of government by the other
[01:54:25.700 --> 01:54:29.260]  but the prosecutors in the executive branch
[01:54:29.260 --> 01:54:31.020]  judges in the judicial
[01:54:31.020 --> 01:54:35.860]  right it now also it wasn't it supposed to be the county attorney in which and
[01:54:35.860 --> 01:54:39.020]  not the district or in the j p court
[01:54:39.020 --> 01:54:43.500]  it depends on whether they have a county attorney they have county court yes
[01:54:43.500 --> 01:54:46.500]  they have county court at law they have actually three of them in montgomery
[01:54:46.500 --> 01:54:47.420]  county
[01:54:47.420 --> 01:54:48.940]  but they also have
[01:54:48.940 --> 01:54:51.360]  and this was a traffic ticket
[01:54:51.360 --> 01:54:53.040]  that was county
[01:54:53.040 --> 01:54:56.040]  district had no subject matter jurisdiction well i asked her that i
[01:54:56.040 --> 01:54:59.540]  asking specifically if he was the district attorney
[01:54:59.540 --> 01:55:04.680]  are are a assistant district attorney he said yes he was
[01:55:04.680 --> 01:55:08.420]  well now do you remember that sometimes the county attorneys like to moonlight
[01:55:08.420 --> 01:55:09.480]  however
[01:55:09.480 --> 01:55:12.700]  they're not allowed to do that because that means they're holding two public
[01:55:12.700 --> 01:55:16.080]  offices which is another forbidden rule in texas
[01:55:16.080 --> 01:55:20.000]  well that would have been moonlighting the other way i mean the county attorney
[01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:22.940]  it would have been having to be a district attorney him
[01:55:22.940 --> 01:55:25.940]  impersonating a county attorney at that point
[01:55:25.940 --> 01:55:27.300]  and that'll work
[01:55:27.300 --> 01:55:30.580]  yeah but what it yeah exactly but what i'm saying is is that the county
[01:55:30.580 --> 01:55:32.840]  attorneys will sometimes work
[01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:36.860]  as assistant da's
[01:55:36.860 --> 01:55:41.340]  and so that means they're crossing over to the to aside they have no authority
[01:55:41.340 --> 01:55:43.940]  to be no way they can do that
[01:55:43.940 --> 01:55:44.660]  is it
[01:55:44.660 --> 01:55:46.860]  if they're not paid
[01:55:46.860 --> 01:55:48.780]  separately
[01:55:48.780 --> 01:55:51.140]  if they're paid their their one
[01:55:51.140 --> 01:55:53.640]  uh... office of the monument
[01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:55.700]  and if there are a lot of times they
[01:55:55.700 --> 01:56:00.100]  they they perform duties within the other but they don't get extra pay for
[01:56:00.100 --> 01:56:02.580]  that beyond their their normal pay
[01:56:02.580 --> 01:56:06.460]  that the restriction is two offices of a monument
[01:56:06.460 --> 01:56:07.580]  and pay
[01:56:07.580 --> 01:56:09.640]  well but here's the other problem
[01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:14.140]  the county attorney is specifically forbidden to practice in any court above
[01:56:14.140 --> 01:56:15.620]  county court
[01:56:15.620 --> 01:56:18.620]  only the district attorney is authorized to practice
[01:56:18.620 --> 01:56:21.540]  district and above
[01:56:21.540 --> 01:56:24.420]  and that can the district go below
[01:56:24.420 --> 01:56:29.180]  what no the da's not authorized it says in the district and above
[01:56:29.180 --> 01:56:30.140]  you know what
[01:56:30.140 --> 01:56:32.260]  when the
[01:56:32.260 --> 01:56:35.780]  individual stands in the district court
[01:56:35.780 --> 01:56:40.420]  he stands in the district court as a as an assistant district attorney
[01:56:40.420 --> 01:56:46.700]  when he stands in the in the county court he stands as a county attorney
[01:56:46.700 --> 01:56:50.420]  and i don't know of anything to keep them from being able to do that
[01:56:50.420 --> 01:56:52.180]  but as you stated
[01:56:52.180 --> 01:56:57.140]  their rules are written to tell them what they can do or cannot do if it's
[01:56:57.140 --> 01:57:00.780]  not written it's not allowed
[01:57:00.780 --> 01:57:01.900]  good point
[01:57:01.900 --> 01:57:03.700]  that's the way i would look at it
[01:57:03.700 --> 01:57:07.780]  well that's the way it is because they're public servants they can only do
[01:57:07.780 --> 01:57:10.320]  what they're specifically authorized to do
[01:57:10.320 --> 01:57:14.340]  what i've seen in the in the way the laws written that the
[01:57:14.340 --> 01:57:17.380]  the justice of the peace cannot
[01:57:17.380 --> 01:57:19.540]  hold an arraignment hearing
[01:57:19.540 --> 01:57:21.780]  he because he doesn't have the authority in that
[01:57:21.780 --> 01:57:24.460]  it as a justice to the pisto point council
[01:57:24.460 --> 01:57:26.580]  and that's what the arraignment would be far
[01:57:26.580 --> 01:57:31.020]  yeah and there's a specific statute addressing that so that's real clear
[01:57:31.020 --> 01:57:35.140]  so when three different times i've been told in it on the paper had its state
[01:57:35.140 --> 01:57:37.220]  that arraignment not a
[01:57:37.220 --> 01:57:39.700]  whatever they call it now something else
[01:57:39.700 --> 01:57:45.260]  but registration right but but it states specifically arraignment on the paperwork
[01:57:45.260 --> 01:57:49.900]  and i asked specifically in court is this an arraignment yes it is
[01:57:49.900 --> 01:57:51.800]  then you file
[01:57:51.800 --> 01:57:55.700]  criminal complaint against a judge and you can see the judge personally
[01:57:55.700 --> 01:57:59.780]  well i i filed against the judge the county attorney the
[01:57:59.780 --> 01:58:02.620]  are the district attorney county clerk
[01:58:02.620 --> 01:58:06.900]  and now i guess i've waited two and a half months so i need to
[01:58:06.900 --> 01:58:09.020]  uh... follow-up yes follow-up
[01:58:09.020 --> 01:58:13.780]  yeah file against the prosecutor for conspiracy as well
[01:58:13.780 --> 01:58:15.740]  all right well i'm gonna let you guys go
[01:58:15.740 --> 01:58:17.900]  okay thank you
[01:58:17.900 --> 01:58:21.220]  okay sorry we're at the end of the show sorry callers
[01:58:21.220 --> 01:58:23.740]  we've got bob jean jesse
[01:58:23.740 --> 01:58:24.900]  and others
[01:58:24.900 --> 01:58:29.620]  come back in thursday and also that we will be taking calls on friday as well
[01:58:29.620 --> 01:58:31.020]  the rule of law
[01:58:31.020 --> 01:58:38.020]  randy kelton debra stevens eddie craig we will be back thursday night
[01:59:01.180 --> 01:59:04.240]  i
[01:59:04.240 --> 01:59:07.860]  like to admit
[01:59:07.860 --> 01:59:14.860]  behind
[01:59:14.860 --> 01:59:18.580]  live
[01:59:18.580 --> 01:59:20.340]  you want to
[01:59:20.340 --> 01:59:25.020]  hill
[01:59:25.020 --> 01:59:28.540]  mpm
[01:59:28.540 --> 01:59:30.300]  uh...
[01:59:30.300 --> 01:59:37.900]  I'm dangerous, I'm so dangerous. I'm like a shopping razor, don't fuck with my size.
[01:59:37.900 --> 01:59:40.900]  I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:40.900 --> 01:59:59.900]  If you eat, I'll fall. If you treat me good. If you drink, let's sue. You better treat me good.