ROL_2009-04-17_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:06.320]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:06.320 --> 00:12.480]  Members of Congress have been briefed to expect a clash with Israel's new Netanyahu-led government
[00:12.480 --> 00:15.520]  over the Palestinian peace process.
[00:15.520 --> 00:20.120]  Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has declared the peace process had reached
[00:20.120 --> 00:21.480]  a dead end.
[00:21.480 --> 00:27.600]  Somali pirates hijacked a US-flagged Danish-owned container ship Wednesday with 20 American
[00:27.600 --> 00:29.280]  crew on board.
[00:29.280 --> 00:32.120]  It was the fifth hijacking since Sunday.
[00:32.120 --> 00:38.720]  Among the ship's cargo were 400 containers of food, including 232 containers belonging
[00:38.720 --> 00:44.240]  to the UN World Food Program, destined for Somalia and Uganda.
[00:44.240 --> 00:49.760]  Former Cuban President Fidel Castro had talks with US politicians in Havana, the first such
[00:49.760 --> 00:53.920]  meeting since he stepped down in 2006.
[00:53.920 --> 00:58.080]  Three members of the Congressional Black Caucus were on a visit to examine ways to
[00:58.080 --> 01:06.560]  normalise relations between the two countries.
[01:06.560 --> 01:11.760]  The UK Guardian reports Israeli companies are feeling the impact of boycott moves in
[01:11.760 --> 01:15.960]  Europe following Israel's recent attack on Gaza.
[01:15.960 --> 01:22.860]  Last week, the Israel Manufacturers Association reported 21% of 90 local exporters had felt
[01:22.860 --> 01:29.560]  a drop in demand due to boycotts, mostly from the UK and Scandinavian countries.
[01:29.560 --> 01:35.800]  Writing in the daily finance paper The Marker, economics journalist Nehemiah Stresla berated
[01:35.800 --> 01:42.320]  then Trade and Industry Minister Eli Yishai for telling the Israeli army to, quote, destroy
[01:42.320 --> 01:47.360]  100 homes in Gaza for every rocket fired into Israel.
[01:47.360 --> 01:52.160]  Stresla said the minister did not understand how much the operation in Gaza was hurting
[01:52.160 --> 01:57.760]  the economy, adding, the horrific images on TV and the statements of politicians in Europe
[01:57.760 --> 02:05.240]  and Turkey are changing the behaviour of consumers, businessmen and potential investors.
[02:05.240 --> 02:11.360]  Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Maymoud Qureshi says US drone attacks on Pakistan are working
[02:11.360 --> 02:15.760]  to the advantage of Al Qaeda and Taliban extremists.
[02:15.760 --> 02:21.320]  Qureshi spoke after talks with US Special Envoy Richard Holbrooke and Joint Chiefs Chairman
[02:21.320 --> 02:25.920]  Admiral Mike Mullen, saying, we have agreed to disagree.
[02:25.920 --> 02:30.840]  Barack Obama has stated he intends to step up missile strikes on Taliban insurgents in
[02:30.840 --> 02:33.400]  Pakistan's tribal areas.
[02:33.400 --> 02:39.120]  Islamabad has repeatedly condemned such strikes, saying they threaten the country's sovereignty
[02:39.120 --> 02:41.360]  and fuel public anger.
[02:41.360 --> 02:46.640]  Over 500 people, including a large number of civilians, have been killed in drone attacks,
[02:46.640 --> 02:49.280]  which started under the Bush administration.
[02:49.280 --> 02:54.720]  Islamabad says it has paid dearly for its alliance with the US in its war on terror.
[03:19.760 --> 03:23.760]  Did you know that there was more than one bomb involved in this tragedy?
[03:23.760 --> 03:27.320]  Did you know that there are many concrete links between the Oklahoma City bombing and
[03:27.320 --> 03:28.320]  9-11?
[03:28.320 --> 03:33.400]  Did you know that current Attorney General Eric Holder was directly involved with a cover-up
[03:33.400 --> 03:35.360]  following the Oklahoma City bombing?
[03:35.360 --> 03:40.920]  Monday, April 20, 7 p.m. at Brave New Books, Chris Emory, Andrew Griffin and Haaland Bandinov
[03:40.920 --> 03:45.600]  will be discussing the results of their investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing.
[03:45.600 --> 03:49.800]  This event will also be broadcast on the Rule of Law Radio program, hosted by Deborah Stevens
[03:49.800 --> 03:51.240]  and Randy Kelton.
[03:51.240 --> 03:57.160]  For more information, go to bravenewbookstore.com or ruleoflawradio.com.
[03:57.160 --> 04:16.960]  The Oklahoma City bombing, 14 years later, still seeking the truth.
[04:27.160 --> 04:57.080]  Okay, we are back.
[04:57.080 --> 05:00.560]  The Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[05:00.560 --> 05:02.960]  We're here with Eddie Craig.
[05:02.960 --> 05:06.240]  We're going over the Texas transportation code.
[05:06.240 --> 05:11.600]  And Eddie, I want to talk about what we were talking about on the break a little bit about
[05:11.600 --> 05:17.640]  this administrative code, how you guys are saying you can't find it anywhere.
[05:17.640 --> 05:20.800]  You have to download it section by section.
[05:20.800 --> 05:23.720]  Is that what's going on with this?
[05:23.720 --> 05:24.800]  Like they don't want us to have it.
[05:24.800 --> 05:25.800]  I don't understand.
[05:25.800 --> 05:33.040]  Well, from what I can see based upon the information that's contained in it, there is a whole lot
[05:33.040 --> 05:38.320]  of stuff in here about the details about what they can and cannot do with individual departments
[05:38.320 --> 05:41.520]  that they are doing in the public eye.
[05:41.520 --> 05:46.560]  And I think the entire reason this particular code is not wholly downloadable like all the
[05:46.560 --> 05:53.140]  others are, nor is it directly searchable, is because of what it would reveal that they're
[05:53.140 --> 05:57.640]  actually doing versus what they're allowed to do.
[05:57.640 --> 05:58.640]  This is interesting.
[05:58.640 --> 06:07.240]  I just, I found the code online and I go to Texas administrative code title one, I click
[06:07.240 --> 06:12.200]  title one, administration part one, office of governor.
[06:12.200 --> 06:18.480]  I click it and it starts with chapter three.
[06:18.480 --> 06:20.360]  Did I miss something here?
[06:20.360 --> 06:28.720]  No, you didn't as a matter of fact, where's one in two.
[06:28.720 --> 06:30.960]  Okay.
[06:30.960 --> 06:37.700]  This is something that since I'm in, uh, out of Austin, I can go down and I'll go to the
[06:37.700 --> 06:40.760]  law library in the Capitol building.
[06:40.760 --> 06:41.760]  Yeah.
[06:41.760 --> 06:44.080]  They'll be able to tell me where this is.
[06:44.080 --> 06:49.080]  Well, if you find somebody that's got a hard copy of it, I'll pay whatever they want, but
[06:49.080 --> 06:57.280]  I want one, uh, preferably electronic, but still, uh, but it's interesting how much information
[06:57.280 --> 07:01.880]  if you actually go through this thing section by section, you can start to uncover that
[07:01.880 --> 07:08.000]  you've got lots of state entities that are acting outside of the authorities.
[07:08.000 --> 07:11.620]  This administrative code gives them now, now think carefully here.
[07:11.620 --> 07:16.960]  What is the purpose of an administrative code?
[07:16.960 --> 07:20.280]  Information of the code of the laws.
[07:20.280 --> 07:28.760]  Now I have a guy in Pennsylvania, Jeff Soder, who's saying that the administrative code
[07:28.760 --> 07:31.160]  is the key to everything.
[07:31.160 --> 07:32.540]  Yes.
[07:32.540 --> 07:40.000]  So this really gets my attention that the administrative code and like you were saying
[07:40.000 --> 07:49.440]  under like, unlike everything else, I finally got a piece of code, but I got down to one
[07:49.440 --> 07:56.780]  single rule before I could actually see text.
[07:56.780 --> 08:04.540]  So in order to download the code, I would have to download each single individual rule
[08:04.540 --> 08:05.880]  one at a time.
[08:05.880 --> 08:15.320]  I'm under title one, part one, chapter three, sub-chapter a rule 3.11.
[08:15.320 --> 08:22.360]  And as I was saying, this is the only code in Texas that you cannot download in its entirety.
[08:22.360 --> 08:25.000]  You cannot directly search it.
[08:25.000 --> 08:29.920]  If you don't know exactly what you're looking for, you will not find it without going right
[08:29.920 --> 08:34.000]  down to the text level in every section and rule.
[08:34.000 --> 08:39.480]  And this is something if they're all up here, I will get someone to download every single
[08:39.480 --> 08:43.480]  rule and we'll combine it in a single document.
[08:43.480 --> 08:45.140]  So it is searchable.
[08:45.140 --> 08:49.880]  But as you've seen, they're not all there, Randy chapter one and two are completely missing.
[08:49.880 --> 08:57.840]  I will make a specific request for those from the legislature.
[08:57.840 --> 09:01.560]  They fall under the open records act as well and they passed them.
[09:01.560 --> 09:06.600]  Oh wait, these are rules, right?
[09:06.600 --> 09:12.600]  Now think of it like this, the administrative code in essence is exactly the same thing
[09:12.600 --> 09:21.080]  to the Texas government that the corporate policy is to Enron or to Pennzoil Quaker state.
[09:21.080 --> 09:22.280]  Basically it is the rules.
[09:22.280 --> 09:28.040]  The company is to be operated by that's what the administrative code is.
[09:28.040 --> 09:35.160]  It tells the employees how they are to behave, what their duties are, what they are allowed
[09:35.160 --> 09:38.160]  to do within the scope of those duties.
[09:38.160 --> 09:40.680]  Oh my goodness.
[09:40.680 --> 09:47.920]  I just gave the department of public safety, a whole stack of information requests asking
[09:47.920 --> 09:55.600]  for exactly this kind of information and I suspect they thought that was pretty funny
[09:55.600 --> 10:02.360]  because they understood that I didn't know how to ask for it and you just told me how
[10:02.360 --> 10:07.400]  to ask for it.
[10:07.400 --> 10:24.360]  I will demand all administrative code that in any way affects the operation of the department.
[10:24.360 --> 10:31.000]  And that would be exactly how you would have to ask for it.
[10:31.000 --> 10:35.680]  They are very good at splitting hairs over things as we can see by the way they define
[10:35.680 --> 10:39.200]  most of the codes especially when it comes to the transportation code.
[10:39.200 --> 10:44.780]  Their main purpose is not to make it clear, not to make it easy to understand.
[10:44.780 --> 10:52.260]  Their purpose is to hide what they are doing behind what appears to be a legal act.
[10:52.260 --> 10:55.120]  And once again we are back down to the root of all evil.
[10:55.120 --> 11:01.000]  The purpose behind this is money, fines, fees, you name it.
[11:01.000 --> 11:06.720]  But at the root cause of everything that we have to contend with, it is the money.
[11:06.720 --> 11:13.720]  Okay, so we have to ferret out the administrative code.
[11:13.720 --> 11:16.720]  Once I know where to look, I will find it.
[11:16.720 --> 11:25.880]  I want to see chapter 1 and 2 of title 1 of the administration code, we will get it all.
[11:25.880 --> 11:32.120]  But at this point, I am pretty sure that we should be able to get started on some people
[11:32.120 --> 11:39.600]  asking some questions, Debra, if you all would like to do that now.
[11:39.600 --> 11:40.600]  Did we lose Debra?
[11:40.600 --> 11:41.600]  No.
[11:41.600 --> 11:42.600]  I am here.
[11:42.600 --> 11:43.600]  That be fine?
[11:43.600 --> 11:44.600]  Sure.
[11:44.600 --> 11:46.640]  Okay, well let's open the phone lines.
[11:46.640 --> 11:48.640]  I had turned the phones off.
[11:48.640 --> 11:55.280]  Okay, callers, if you would like to call in 512-646-1984.
[11:55.280 --> 12:06.360]  Alright, so while we are waiting for the callers to call in, I am still kind of confused here
[12:06.360 --> 12:12.120]  on how they can just hide the law like this.
[12:12.120 --> 12:17.760]  Well, the difference is, this is not the law that applies to us, Debra.
[12:17.760 --> 12:18.760]  That's the thing.
[12:18.760 --> 12:21.700]  They didn't hide the law the way that we understand it.
[12:21.700 --> 12:25.520]  We have the laws that they want us to think apply to us.
[12:25.520 --> 12:30.800]  The thing to remember is this is the law that applies specifically to them.
[12:30.800 --> 12:31.800]  Yeah.
[12:31.800 --> 12:35.600]  But it's still the law.
[12:35.600 --> 12:38.600]  Yeah.
[12:38.600 --> 12:42.320]  But is it clear who the publisher is?
[12:42.320 --> 12:43.320]  No.
[12:43.320 --> 12:47.440]  Then how do we even know it's law?
[12:47.440 --> 12:51.840]  How do we even know it's really code if we don't even know who the publisher is to be
[12:51.840 --> 12:53.760]  able to trace it back?
[12:53.760 --> 12:57.640]  This is on the official State of Texas website.
[12:57.640 --> 12:58.640]  Right.
[12:58.640 --> 13:03.060]  That's the only way you've got to know, but it is on the official state website.
[13:03.060 --> 13:09.520]  We can go to good faith reliance on competent authority.
[13:09.520 --> 13:18.400]  If the State of Texas has not complained that some hacker has hacked their site, then we
[13:18.400 --> 13:23.600]  can reasonably depend on what we find on their site, I would think.
[13:23.600 --> 13:27.760]  The one thing I did find on here, Randy, that just got me laughing so hard I could hardly
[13:27.760 --> 13:32.200]  stand it, of course, you know the comptroller situation with what I've got, well, the Texas
[13:32.200 --> 13:37.300]  administrative code is where they hid the taxpayer bill of rights.
[13:37.300 --> 13:45.960]  It's in the Texas administrative code and it specifically says that any person can expect
[13:45.960 --> 13:56.800]  reasonable, helpful assistance from the comptroller with any tax questions that they care to ask.
[13:56.800 --> 14:03.000]  And yet I asked an entire list of them and was told flat out, everybody has a copy of
[14:03.000 --> 14:06.520]  your questions and nobody's going to answer it.
[14:06.520 --> 14:14.880]  And the taxpayer bill of rights says, and every citizen has the right to expect courteous
[14:14.880 --> 14:18.240]  service from the comptroller.
[14:18.240 --> 14:22.880]  Well, that was not extremely courteous if you ask me.
[14:22.880 --> 14:30.080]  So that goes to violate, well, would these administrative code, are they rules or are
[14:30.080 --> 14:31.080]  they...
[14:31.080 --> 14:34.640]  Yes, they're the rules that govern them, that tell them what they can and cannot do.
[14:34.640 --> 14:39.680]  Well, are they rules or statutes, the laws?
[14:39.680 --> 14:40.960]  Well, I guess I should say the law.
[14:40.960 --> 14:43.160]  It's enacted by the legislature.
[14:43.160 --> 14:44.160]  So it's got...
[14:44.160 --> 14:45.160]  In their laws.
[14:45.160 --> 14:46.160]  Yes.
[14:46.160 --> 14:47.160]  Okay.
[14:47.160 --> 14:51.300]  Public official violates the law relating to his office, got you, Bubba.
[14:51.300 --> 14:57.080]  So if a tax assessor is rude to me, he violates a law relating to his office.
[14:57.080 --> 15:03.520]  Oh, that is rich.
[15:03.520 --> 15:10.080]  And I just talked to an attorney today for about an hour and a half, the city attorney
[15:10.080 --> 15:17.520]  for the city of Fairview in North Texas here, but he's also a prosecutor for several of
[15:17.520 --> 15:22.000]  the local towns.
[15:22.000 --> 15:30.880]  And we talked about, I lost why I went to him.
[15:30.880 --> 15:36.000]  I hate when that happens.
[15:36.000 --> 15:40.880]  He was a prosecutor and I really worked him over today and I had a real good reason for
[15:40.880 --> 15:41.880]  bringing me up.
[15:41.880 --> 15:46.080]  Well, my mother tells me this is not going to get better.
[15:46.080 --> 15:50.120]  I'm trying to look at the administrative code and think about all of this at one time.
[15:50.120 --> 15:51.200]  I'll stop interrupting.
[15:51.200 --> 15:52.200]  Go ahead, Craig.
[15:52.200 --> 15:53.200]  Eddie.
[15:53.200 --> 15:54.200]  His name is Eddie.
[15:54.200 --> 15:55.200]  It's all right.
[15:55.200 --> 16:02.200]  Believe me, in the military they call you whatever they like, so I'm used to it.
[16:02.200 --> 16:03.600]  That's Mr. Craig.
[16:03.600 --> 16:04.600]  Excuse me.
[16:04.600 --> 16:05.600]  I was...
[16:05.600 --> 16:06.600]  Okay.
[16:06.600 --> 16:07.600]  Okay.
[16:07.600 --> 16:08.600]  I'm sorry, Eddie.
[16:08.600 --> 16:11.600]  Man, I don't remember why I lost it.
[16:11.600 --> 16:12.600]  Maybe I'm getting tired.
[16:12.600 --> 16:13.600]  Okay.
[16:13.600 --> 16:14.600]  Go ahead.
[16:14.600 --> 16:15.600]  I'll think of it in a minute.
[16:15.600 --> 16:16.980]  That's my time.
[16:16.980 --> 16:17.980]  Yeah.
[16:17.980 --> 16:23.340]  I've actually had, since that first show that I did with you guys on the traffic, I've had
[16:23.340 --> 16:29.680]  several people email me some things and I've actually spoken with a lady named Gail today
[16:29.680 --> 16:32.760]  for the first time about what's going on with her.
[16:32.760 --> 16:37.700]  And what I really was hoping someone would call in about was how do we go about dealing
[16:37.700 --> 16:40.240]  with these things when they happen.
[16:40.240 --> 16:44.960]  And as I've tried to address off and on through the show here tonight, the first thing is
[16:44.960 --> 16:46.440]  read the information.
[16:46.440 --> 16:47.280]  Read the information.
[16:47.280 --> 16:48.360]  Okay, listen, we're going to break
[16:48.360 --> 16:49.440]  and we do have some callers,
[16:49.440 --> 16:50.880]  Dominic and Russell.
[16:50.880 --> 16:51.720]  Damn it.
[16:51.720 --> 16:52.840]  We're going to take the calls on the other side.
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[18:04.200 --> 18:09.200]  Yeah, yeah, oh, mm-hmm, yeah, I want, oh, mm-hmm, yeah,
[18:34.400 --> 18:39.400]  I want, I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes.
[18:44.440 --> 18:49.440]  I simply must refuse your news, also come in lies.
[18:52.000 --> 18:54.760]  It seems you like the fact,
[18:54.760 --> 18:57.760]  but please take some words to the wise.
[18:57.760 --> 19:02.760]  Please stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
[19:27.760 --> 19:28.600]  Mm-hmm.
[19:32.000 --> 19:34.440]  Okay, we are back with Eddie Craig.
[19:35.360 --> 19:40.360]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[19:40.600 --> 19:42.000]  That's annoyed Randy Kelton,
[19:42.000 --> 19:45.080]  still trying to figure out what he forgot earlier.
[19:45.080 --> 19:48.680]  Okay, we're gonna go to your calls in just one moment.
[19:49.560 --> 19:51.120]  Eddie, you had something you wanted,
[19:51.120 --> 19:53.600]  an issue you wanted to address first.
[19:53.600 --> 19:55.080]  Yeah, there's one of the thing
[19:55.080 --> 19:58.720]  in the Texas Administrative Code, Title 43, Part 1,
[19:58.720 --> 20:03.720]  Chapter 17, Subchapter A, Rule 17.3, Item A.
[20:04.720 --> 20:06.160]  Certificates of title,
[20:06.160 --> 20:09.440]  unless otherwise exempted by law or this chapter,
[20:09.440 --> 20:11.400]  the owner of any motor vehicle
[20:11.400 --> 20:12.920]  that is required to be registered
[20:12.920 --> 20:16.480]  in accordance with Transportation Code, Chapter 502,
[20:16.480 --> 20:19.240]  shall apply for a Texas Certificate of Title
[20:19.240 --> 20:22.800]  in accordance with Transportation Code, Chapter 501.
[20:22.800 --> 20:27.800]  Anybody care to recall what we said 501.004 applied to
[20:28.080 --> 20:30.840]  when we looked at it that first night on Monday?
[20:31.960 --> 20:35.200]  Anybody remember, Randy?
[20:35.200 --> 20:38.560]  501.004, no.
[20:39.640 --> 20:43.640]  Applicability, this chapter applies to a motor vehicle
[20:43.640 --> 20:47.920]  owned by the state or a political subdivision of the state.
[20:47.920 --> 20:52.920]  Alla Dask told me that, and I thought he was nuts.
[20:54.840 --> 20:56.640]  Okay, I still think he's nuts.
[20:56.640 --> 20:58.880]  However, he did tell me that.
[20:58.880 --> 21:00.600]  Yeah, and so right there,
[21:00.600 --> 21:03.200]  you have the first key about registration
[21:03.200 --> 21:04.920]  of a motor vehicle.
[21:04.920 --> 21:06.480]  In this particular instance,
[21:06.480 --> 21:09.880]  registration of a motor vehicle can only apply
[21:09.880 --> 21:11.800]  to one that is owned by the state
[21:11.800 --> 21:13.560]  or political subdivision of the state,
[21:13.560 --> 21:17.080]  meaning county, municipality, so on and so forth,
[21:17.080 --> 21:20.760]  simply because you can't register one under 502
[21:20.760 --> 21:24.280]  without the Certificate of Title under 501.
[21:24.280 --> 21:25.760]  They are joined at the hip.
[21:27.200 --> 21:29.480]  All right, we're ready for the first one, Debra.
[21:34.400 --> 21:35.240]  You there, Deb?
[21:37.280 --> 21:39.120]  Okay, let me bring up the calls.
[21:39.120 --> 21:42.160]  Okay, I'm sorry, I was screening calls.
[21:42.160 --> 21:43.000]  Okay.
[21:43.000 --> 21:43.840]  Okay, sorry.
[21:43.840 --> 21:47.960]  This is really a self-run thing here.
[21:47.960 --> 21:49.520]  We're doing everything ourselves.
[21:49.520 --> 21:51.640]  Okay, sorry, I had to screen some calls
[21:51.640 --> 21:55.000]  because we had unscreened callers, brand new callers,
[21:55.000 --> 21:56.640]  which we're very happy about.
[21:56.640 --> 22:00.840]  I would like to bring up Cindy in Texas.
[22:00.840 --> 22:02.200]  I believe she's a first-time caller.
[22:02.200 --> 22:03.920]  Cindy, thanks for calling in.
[22:03.920 --> 22:06.000]  Are you a first-time caller?
[22:06.000 --> 22:07.280]  Yes, ma'am, I am.
[22:07.280 --> 22:09.800]  What is your question for our guest?
[22:09.800 --> 22:12.720]  Well, all of this is extremely interesting
[22:12.720 --> 22:17.400]  and helpful, but as a layperson,
[22:17.400 --> 22:22.400]  it's very confusing, and when the occasion comes up,
[22:25.120 --> 22:27.840]  like, for example, if you get stopped for speeding,
[22:29.600 --> 22:32.760]  a layperson that'll be nervous and so forth
[22:32.760 --> 22:35.120]  is gonna forget all the things
[22:35.120 --> 22:37.520]  that they should and should not do.
[22:37.520 --> 22:40.240]  Is there any written information
[22:40.240 --> 22:45.240]  that this is in a written book or information
[22:45.320 --> 22:50.000]  where you can go and read about the things we should
[22:50.000 --> 22:53.240]  and should not do so that we can be prepared
[22:53.240 --> 22:55.240]  in a situation ahead of time?
[22:56.720 --> 22:58.000]  Very good.
[22:58.000 --> 22:58.960]  Go ahead.
[22:58.960 --> 23:00.840]  In actuality, I don't know of anybody
[23:00.840 --> 23:02.240]  that's got one particular thing.
[23:02.240 --> 23:04.960]  I've seen several things that attorneys have put on YouTube
[23:04.960 --> 23:07.000]  about how to deal with things when you're pulled over
[23:07.000 --> 23:09.160]  in a traffic stop and so on and so forth,
[23:09.160 --> 23:11.600]  and some of them contain very good information.
[23:11.600 --> 23:13.760]  I am, in fact, since Randy is wanting me
[23:13.760 --> 23:15.360]  to do a traffic seminar with him,
[23:15.360 --> 23:18.120]  I have started writing up a set of written rules
[23:18.120 --> 23:22.880]  and instructions on do's and do nots during a traffic stop,
[23:22.880 --> 23:25.120]  which once I get Randy to check it over
[23:25.120 --> 23:27.200]  and he thinks it's sound,
[23:27.200 --> 23:28.640]  I will be more than happy to share
[23:28.640 --> 23:30.800]  with everybody that wants it.
[23:30.800 --> 23:34.520]  Most of what you're doing is basic, common sense stuff.
[23:34.520 --> 23:39.160]  Basically, don't give the officer any reason
[23:39.160 --> 23:42.480]  to believe you're in a danger to him.
[23:42.480 --> 23:45.560]  The worst thing in the world you can do,
[23:45.560 --> 23:48.640]  if you're gonna stand your ground and stand on your rights,
[23:48.640 --> 23:50.120]  you can stay locked in your car,
[23:50.120 --> 23:52.400]  you can keep your window rolled up just far enough
[23:52.400 --> 23:54.560]  where you can speak to the officer through it.
[23:54.560 --> 23:57.120]  If he tells you he needs you to get out of the car,
[23:57.120 --> 23:58.640]  you keep asking him why,
[23:58.640 --> 24:02.400]  till you feel you don't have a choice.
[24:02.400 --> 24:04.840]  But at the same time, you usually will have them
[24:04.840 --> 24:08.280]  start to appear in droves like I have on some of my stops.
[24:08.280 --> 24:09.760]  They'll come knocking on the window,
[24:09.760 --> 24:11.600]  wanting you to roll down your window
[24:11.600 --> 24:14.360]  or open your glove box so they can look inside.
[24:14.360 --> 24:16.960]  Basically, I just politely ignore them or refuse
[24:16.960 --> 24:18.640]  because they're not carrying a warrant.
[24:18.640 --> 24:20.600]  I don't have to open my glove box for them.
[24:20.600 --> 24:22.200]  I don't have to give them access
[24:22.200 --> 24:23.920]  to the inside of my vehicle.
[24:23.920 --> 24:26.760]  I keep my hands on my steering wheel in plain sight.
[24:26.760 --> 24:28.920]  The last thing in the world you wanna do,
[24:28.920 --> 24:31.360]  even if a police officer's telling you to do it,
[24:31.360 --> 24:34.000]  is go fishing around inside your vehicle
[24:34.000 --> 24:36.720]  with a Power Mad maniac with a gun
[24:36.720 --> 24:38.800]  standing outside your window.
[24:38.800 --> 24:41.240]  Yes, and let me address this.
[24:42.480 --> 24:44.520]  When you're on the side of the road
[24:45.720 --> 24:48.540]  and it's just you and the police officer,
[24:49.480 --> 24:52.560]  that's not the place to mount your battle.
[24:52.560 --> 24:54.520]  That's not where you wanna fight.
[24:54.520 --> 24:56.080]  Most assuredly.
[24:56.080 --> 24:59.440]  All you need to do is indicate
[24:59.440 --> 25:03.640]  that whatever the officer commands you to do,
[25:04.480 --> 25:08.160]  if it's unreasonable or something you would rather not do,
[25:08.160 --> 25:10.860]  let him know that you would rather not do it.
[25:11.720 --> 25:14.600]  But don't get yourself beat up or arrested
[25:14.600 --> 25:16.600]  on the side of the highway.
[25:16.600 --> 25:20.020]  That's not the place to fight your case.
[25:20.020 --> 25:21.420]  Do it in the courts.
[25:21.420 --> 25:24.800]  These people who say you don't have jurisdiction,
[25:24.800 --> 25:25.960]  they roll up their window,
[25:25.960 --> 25:29.260]  the policeman says roll down your window, they refuse.
[25:29.260 --> 25:31.360]  Don't do that crap, Ola.
[25:31.360 --> 25:32.680]  Right.
[25:32.680 --> 25:36.720]  Don't get yourself beat up on the side of the highway
[25:36.720 --> 25:38.800]  to express your rights.
[25:38.800 --> 25:42.160]  The officer is wearing a loaded pistol on his hip
[25:43.200 --> 25:46.960]  and you cannot reasonably resist him
[25:47.960 --> 25:50.400]  because he's displaying a deadly weapon.
[25:51.440 --> 25:55.160]  Where we wanna fight, the ticket is in the court.
[25:55.160 --> 26:00.160]  Don't get yourself hurt out there on the highway.
[26:00.320 --> 26:03.360]  Yeah, just remain calm, stay even and steady,
[26:03.360 --> 26:05.640]  don't panic over anything.
[26:05.640 --> 26:09.080]  The thing that I've started doing is if they come up
[26:09.080 --> 26:11.560]  and they say, well, I pulled you over for such and such,
[26:11.560 --> 26:14.200]  I see, I just didn't listen to what they're saying.
[26:14.200 --> 26:17.060]  And then we say, I need to see your license and registration.
[26:17.060 --> 26:19.480]  My response has become,
[26:19.480 --> 26:21.440]  can you use this information against me?
[26:22.400 --> 26:24.740]  And I'll stick to that question until they answer it
[26:24.740 --> 26:25.800]  one way or the other.
[26:27.400 --> 26:30.000]  And basically, he's gonna have to say one of two things,
[26:30.000 --> 26:31.800]  yes, I can or no, I can't.
[26:34.080 --> 26:37.160]  If you're a woman, we're guys
[26:37.160 --> 26:40.160]  and we like to get into this conversation,
[26:40.160 --> 26:42.760]  but if you're a woman, you can tell the officer,
[26:42.760 --> 26:47.220]  I would rather not give you any information.
[26:47.220 --> 26:50.780]  If he insists, then go ahead and give it to him.
[26:50.780 --> 26:53.400]  You don't need to keep objecting.
[26:53.400 --> 26:58.160]  All you have to do is register your objection once
[26:58.160 --> 27:02.840]  and it's registered, it's preserved for future use.
[27:02.840 --> 27:04.760]  Don't get in a fight with the officer
[27:04.760 --> 27:06.680]  out there on the highway.
[27:06.680 --> 27:08.940]  One thing, they've trained these officers
[27:08.940 --> 27:11.680]  to be terrified of us.
[27:11.680 --> 27:14.680]  So the officer is more frightened than you are.
[27:15.560 --> 27:20.120]  They show them these videos over and over and over
[27:20.120 --> 27:24.960]  of an officer making a stop and somebody's shooting him.
[27:24.960 --> 27:27.720]  Well, that happens once in 20 million,
[27:29.020 --> 27:31.280]  but every time it happens, they show them over and over
[27:31.280 --> 27:33.880]  and over and over until they're terrified.
[27:33.880 --> 27:36.720]  The cops are literally terrified.
[27:36.720 --> 27:41.040]  Don't get yourself hurt to try to preserve your rights.
[27:41.040 --> 27:42.800]  You can do it in court.
[27:42.800 --> 27:47.320]  Yeah, Cindy, and I wanna address Cindy's concerns as well.
[27:47.320 --> 27:50.460]  Cindy, how long have you been listening to our show?
[27:51.840 --> 27:53.640]  Actually, this is my first night
[27:53.640 --> 27:55.800]  and I've just been listening for an hour.
[27:55.800 --> 27:59.440]  Okay, well, thank you very much for listening to our show
[27:59.440 --> 28:02.760]  and thank you very much for calling in, first of all.
[28:02.760 --> 28:07.760]  And in addition to address your concerns,
[28:08.080 --> 28:11.640]  we're all lay persons, okay?
[28:11.640 --> 28:17.560]  We're not attorneys and none of us knew any of this
[28:17.560 --> 28:22.560]  until we started reading and researching ourselves.
[28:23.240 --> 28:28.000]  And what I have seen over the last two years
[28:28.000 --> 28:31.800]  of doing this show, people calling in,
[28:31.800 --> 28:35.680]  not knowing anything about the law, okay?
[28:35.680 --> 28:38.760]  Start studying, start reading.
[28:38.760 --> 28:43.280]  Over the course of time, the weeks, the months, the years,
[28:43.280 --> 28:47.240]  now that it's become years, people become educated.
[28:47.240 --> 28:51.080]  They educate themselves and they come up
[28:51.080 --> 28:52.920]  with their own strategies and techniques
[28:52.920 --> 28:56.440]  and are taking it far beyond anything
[28:56.440 --> 28:59.720]  that we could have conceived or dreamed even.
[28:59.720 --> 29:04.560]  And so we see the progression over time of our callers
[29:04.560 --> 29:07.800]  and our listeners who are going out there
[29:07.800 --> 29:08.720]  and doing it.
[29:08.720 --> 29:13.040]  And so I guess my message to you is don't be discouraged
[29:13.040 --> 29:17.920]  because we're all in the same place, really.
[29:17.920 --> 29:19.880]  And it's not that hard.
[29:19.880 --> 29:23.480]  And what these guys are saying is that you don't have
[29:23.480 --> 29:25.280]  to have a bunch of knowledge to deal
[29:25.280 --> 29:29.120]  with a situation immediately at hand.
[29:29.120 --> 29:33.360]  What we mainly do is we deal with the courts
[29:33.360 --> 29:34.640]  and strategies with the courts.
[29:34.640 --> 29:37.240]  So when you're confronted by the police
[29:37.240 --> 29:39.440]  or you're in a situation like that,
[29:39.440 --> 29:43.400]  the main thing to keep in mind is preserve your liberty.
[29:43.400 --> 29:45.200]  That's the most important thing.
[29:45.200 --> 29:49.480]  Do whatever you think you need to do at the time
[29:49.480 --> 29:51.480]  to not get thrown in jail
[29:51.480 --> 29:53.800]  and have a big confrontation with the police,
[29:53.800 --> 29:54.640]  first and foremost.
[29:54.640 --> 29:58.520]  That's what I would suggest to any woman especially, okay?
[29:58.520 --> 30:01.320]  Because jail is no place for females for sure, all right?
[30:01.320 --> 30:02.760]  And I don't know because I've never been
[30:02.760 --> 30:04.640]  and Lord Jesus, help me.
[30:04.640 --> 30:06.960]  I hope I never am in that situation.
[30:06.960 --> 30:08.480]  But I would suggest to anybody,
[30:08.480 --> 30:12.200]  do whatever you think you need to do to not go to jail
[30:12.200 --> 30:14.440]  and to not have your liberties taken away
[30:14.440 --> 30:16.840]  at that particular time.
[30:16.840 --> 30:20.000]  And then after the fact, you step back,
[30:20.000 --> 30:23.860]  you review what happened and read and learn
[30:23.860 --> 30:26.400]  and take strategies into court.
[30:26.400 --> 30:27.240]  Yes, yes.
[30:27.240 --> 30:29.160]  And I kind of owe you an explanation.
[30:30.120 --> 30:34.920]  What we're doing here today is force feeding.
[30:34.920 --> 30:36.720]  Yes.
[30:36.720 --> 30:40.440]  Eddie Craig probably has the most ordered mind
[30:40.440 --> 30:42.360]  of anyone I've put on my show.
[30:43.440 --> 30:47.520]  He's feeding a lot of information really fast.
[30:47.520 --> 30:49.560]  And if this is your first exposure,
[30:51.200 --> 30:54.640]  don't feel bad that he's,
[30:54.640 --> 30:57.120]  it's like you're trying to drink from a water,
[30:57.120 --> 30:58.600]  from a fire hose here.
[30:59.920 --> 31:01.920]  And frankly, that was intended.
[31:01.920 --> 31:06.920]  We wanted to give as much information as we could
[31:07.840 --> 31:11.920]  so that people could take this archive and download it
[31:11.920 --> 31:14.120]  and listen to it over and over and over.
[31:15.440 --> 31:17.240]  Three, four or five times,
[31:17.240 --> 31:20.500]  all of a sudden all of these pieces start fitting together.
[31:21.400 --> 31:25.600]  But what we will demonstrate over a period of time
[31:25.600 --> 31:28.860]  of listening to us is you will begin to see
[31:28.860 --> 31:32.080]  some very clear patterns emerging.
[31:33.600 --> 31:38.600]  And the one thing it will do above all is set you free.
[31:40.520 --> 31:44.240]  I've been doing this a long time and I studied the law
[31:44.240 --> 31:48.080]  and I have given up everything I own.
[31:48.080 --> 31:53.080]  I've sold off my property, used it to keep going doing this.
[31:53.360 --> 31:57.720]  But what it has given me back is the knowledge
[31:57.720 --> 32:00.940]  that no matter what these folks try to do,
[32:02.040 --> 32:04.920]  I have a way of fighting back against them.
[32:04.920 --> 32:07.720]  I have a way of dealing with them.
[32:07.720 --> 32:10.860]  And if you listen to the show regularly,
[32:10.860 --> 32:14.100]  we keep going over and over these things
[32:14.100 --> 32:16.500]  that sound so complex right now.
[32:18.000 --> 32:21.640]  As you listen to them a second time and a third time
[32:21.640 --> 32:26.460]  and a fourth time, it will begin to make sense to you.
[32:26.460 --> 32:29.360]  And then you'll be like most of the rest of our listeners
[32:29.360 --> 32:34.360]  who call in and ask very sophisticated questions.
[32:35.160 --> 32:37.320]  I had a guest on my show once
[32:37.320 --> 32:39.880]  that had had his own show for 20 years.
[32:40.760 --> 32:44.160]  After the show, he called me and he said,
[32:44.160 --> 32:48.560]  where do you get those listeners?
[32:48.560 --> 32:53.000]  They all ask such great questions.
[32:53.000 --> 32:58.000]  And that's because we're very careful about avoiding
[32:58.200 --> 33:01.400]  vague and unsupported legal opinion.
[33:02.360 --> 33:07.360]  We're trying to educate people in the law as it exists.
[33:09.720 --> 33:11.160]  And it's complex.
[33:11.160 --> 33:15.120]  So it takes a while, you listen to it several times
[33:15.120 --> 33:19.000]  and each new time, new pieces begin to fit
[33:19.000 --> 33:22.480]  and you'll get in front of a policeman
[33:22.480 --> 33:26.360]  once you've listened a while and you will be amazed
[33:26.360 --> 33:28.400]  at how much he doesn't know.
[33:29.400 --> 33:31.960]  And that will empower you more than anything.
[33:31.960 --> 33:34.760]  Yeah, and I also wanna add,
[33:34.760 --> 33:37.720]  most of what we've done tonight
[33:37.720 --> 33:41.040]  has just been walking through the code.
[33:41.040 --> 33:45.840]  Okay, just Eddie just reading straight up
[33:45.840 --> 33:49.440]  out of the law book and us having discussion on it.
[33:49.440 --> 33:52.460]  I mean, we've hardly even gotten to any strategies yet
[33:52.460 --> 33:56.760]  so there is a lot that we learn
[33:56.760 --> 33:59.480]  and that we teach ourselves just by reading,
[33:59.480 --> 34:01.640]  just by reading the code.
[34:01.640 --> 34:04.920]  Yeah, and she's right about, go ahead, Eddie.
[34:04.920 --> 34:07.560]  And if I may, I would like everybody to understand
[34:07.560 --> 34:10.240]  there is no silver bullet to this.
[34:10.240 --> 34:13.540]  You have to know what the law says,
[34:13.540 --> 34:15.400]  you have to know how it applies
[34:15.400 --> 34:17.420]  and you have to come up with a strategy
[34:17.420 --> 34:19.720]  for putting it to use.
[34:19.720 --> 34:21.200]  No one's gonna be able to tell you,
[34:21.200 --> 34:24.520]  well, in any given situation, this is what you've got to do.
[34:25.520 --> 34:27.680]  Because you're always gonna run into a policeman
[34:27.680 --> 34:30.280]  with a different attitude and a different set of behaviors.
[34:30.280 --> 34:32.000]  Same thing with a judge,
[34:32.000 --> 34:33.980]  you're going to run into these things.
[34:33.980 --> 34:37.160]  What we're trying to do is to give you the tools necessary
[34:37.160 --> 34:41.060]  to carve out your escape, no matter what it is,
[34:41.060 --> 34:45.000]  in order to show that I don't have to be hung up in this
[34:45.000 --> 34:46.640]  like everyone else has been
[34:46.640 --> 34:51.440]  because I've got the right tools to know how to get out.
[34:51.440 --> 34:53.760]  Well, it was so informative.
[34:54.920 --> 34:59.480]  Just your explanation on what the terminology
[34:59.480 --> 35:03.020]  actually means in the code.
[35:03.020 --> 35:06.960]  Like, for example, a vehicle or a motor vehicle
[35:06.960 --> 35:10.460]  and all the different terminology,
[35:10.460 --> 35:14.320]  it isn't really what we as laymen think of,
[35:14.320 --> 35:16.000]  it's what matters in the court,
[35:16.000 --> 35:18.040]  what these terms mean.
[35:18.040 --> 35:20.440]  You're absolutely right about that.
[35:21.400 --> 35:23.560]  Yes, it goes to a term of art.
[35:24.620 --> 35:28.760]  We have a term we use in the natural language,
[35:28.760 --> 35:32.960]  but when it's used in legal settings,
[35:32.960 --> 35:37.960]  oft times we have terms that are defined in a statute.
[35:38.400 --> 35:40.920]  And when the term is defined in a statute,
[35:40.920 --> 35:43.580]  it becomes a term of art.
[35:43.580 --> 35:47.800]  And in the statutory context,
[35:47.800 --> 35:52.800]  it only has the meaning that is defined in the term of art.
[35:52.920 --> 35:55.380]  And one of the things I really like to do
[35:55.380 --> 36:00.380]  to jerk the judges around is I will write a pleading
[36:01.120 --> 36:04.040]  and I'll put a set of definitions in the front of it.
[36:05.360 --> 36:09.000]  And I can define a word to mean anything I want.
[36:10.140 --> 36:12.240]  I can make up my own word if I want to
[36:12.240 --> 36:15.680]  and give it a definition and use it in the document.
[36:15.680 --> 36:18.700]  It becomes a term of art and it has that meaning.
[36:19.560 --> 36:22.920]  So they do the same thing to us,
[36:22.920 --> 36:26.900]  except if I made up a word,
[36:26.900 --> 36:30.640]  the judge would know that it was a new word.
[36:30.640 --> 36:34.440]  What they do in the code is they take a word
[36:34.440 --> 36:37.280]  that you think you know the meaning to
[36:37.280 --> 36:42.280]  and they redefine it like a motor vehicle.
[36:43.060 --> 36:45.220]  You think a motor vehicle is what you've got
[36:45.220 --> 36:46.740]  sitting out in front of the house.
[36:46.740 --> 36:48.580]  Yeah, but that's not.
[36:48.580 --> 36:53.260]  And they know it's something else
[36:53.260 --> 36:54.820]  and they will trick you with it.
[36:54.820 --> 36:59.820]  And these are the thing that Eddie hasn't got to yet.
[37:01.020 --> 37:05.000]  What we've been going through is the mundane,
[37:05.000 --> 37:07.460]  dry statutory law.
[37:07.460 --> 37:09.960]  We haven't got to the strategy yet.
[37:09.960 --> 37:12.340]  Right, and that's what I was saying a little while ago.
[37:12.340 --> 37:16.380]  And I wanna give this analogy to you, Cindy,
[37:16.380 --> 37:18.580]  because I've got a mathematical background.
[37:18.580 --> 37:20.960]  And the way I look at all of this
[37:20.960 --> 37:24.160]  is that it's a different language.
[37:25.420 --> 37:28.620]  It's a mathematical structure in a sense.
[37:28.620 --> 37:31.220]  Like if you've seen mathematical formulas
[37:31.220 --> 37:34.180]  or algebraic equations and you see the X and the Y
[37:34.180 --> 37:37.140]  or the thetas or the alphas or whatever,
[37:37.140 --> 37:39.820]  well, what do those things mean?
[37:39.820 --> 37:42.000]  What do those characters mean?
[37:42.000 --> 37:47.000]  And so that's how I view all this legalese kind of language,
[37:47.260 --> 37:51.020]  like what Randy's saying, motor vehicle.
[37:51.020 --> 37:54.260]  When I approach law, I totally throw out the window
[37:55.180 --> 38:00.180]  any possible definition of common use
[38:00.180 --> 38:05.180]  for any word like that that I have always used my whole life.
[38:06.100 --> 38:08.580]  And I pretend like it's Chinese,
[38:08.580 --> 38:10.620]  like I don't know what it means.
[38:10.620 --> 38:15.620]  Okay, and so you just familiarize yourself with the words
[38:15.860 --> 38:19.140]  and really when it comes down to it,
[38:19.140 --> 38:21.140]  it's not really that hard.
[38:21.140 --> 38:23.980]  Okay, I mean, I've given this example before.
[38:23.980 --> 38:26.360]  I taught myself how to be a computer tech
[38:26.360 --> 38:29.540]  because I could read, all right?
[38:29.540 --> 38:30.820]  Nobody taught me how to do it.
[38:30.820 --> 38:32.460]  I taught myself how to do it.
[38:32.460 --> 38:35.460]  You know, I fixed computers for a living.
[38:35.460 --> 38:36.960]  When I ran into a problem
[38:36.960 --> 38:41.960]  that I don't already know how to solve, I look it up, okay?
[38:42.300 --> 38:43.340]  And I just read.
[38:43.340 --> 38:46.380]  And so really there is a lot to be said for reading.
[38:46.380 --> 38:48.400]  And it's very empowering
[38:48.400 --> 38:51.540]  because once you read over the code a few times,
[38:51.540 --> 38:56.540]  then you start to see what your strategy should be, really.
[38:56.540 --> 39:01.540]  Yeah, there's a very plain way of putting all of that.
[39:01.660 --> 39:06.020]  If the code gives you a definition for a word,
[39:06.020 --> 39:08.900]  it is not being used the way you know it.
[39:08.900 --> 39:09.740]  That's right.
[39:11.260 --> 39:13.780]  Otherwise, there would be no need to define it.
[39:14.860 --> 39:17.420]  How do you know a politician is lying?
[39:17.420 --> 39:18.260]  His lips are moving.
[39:18.260 --> 39:20.180]  His lips are moving, exactly.
[39:20.180 --> 39:22.740]  And let me give you something
[39:22.740 --> 39:26.780]  that'll make this less daunting.
[39:26.780 --> 39:29.380]  If you read the penal code
[39:29.380 --> 39:31.260]  and the code of criminal procedure
[39:32.180 --> 39:34.180]  and the transportation code,
[39:34.180 --> 39:36.960]  you know, they look like a really big book,
[39:36.960 --> 39:39.700]  but everything is outlined in there.
[39:39.700 --> 39:43.740]  So there's an awful lot of white space.
[39:43.740 --> 39:45.820]  And after you read this code
[39:45.820 --> 39:49.500]  and it looks like it's in a foreign language
[39:49.500 --> 39:52.040]  because they're trying to be very precise.
[39:52.040 --> 39:54.620]  But after you've read two or three of them,
[39:54.620 --> 39:57.580]  the style becomes apparent.
[39:57.580 --> 39:58.620]  And then you start through it.
[39:58.620 --> 40:01.460]  And I tell somebody, well, read the penal code.
[40:01.460 --> 40:04.920]  Well, you read the penal code and you'll come across,
[40:04.920 --> 40:09.920]  80% of it is about very specific stuff
[40:10.380 --> 40:12.700]  that you'd never have anything to do with.
[40:12.700 --> 40:15.480]  Code of criminal procedure, it's pretty good size,
[40:15.480 --> 40:20.380]  but you know, real estate law, contract law,
[40:20.380 --> 40:22.180]  I don't care about all that stuff.
[40:23.100 --> 40:26.340]  You'll go through it and you kind of skim over
[40:26.340 --> 40:29.000]  the things that really don't apply.
[40:29.000 --> 40:30.940]  I went to Pennsylvania.
[40:32.720 --> 40:35.260]  First thing I did was got their penal code
[40:35.260 --> 40:37.520]  and their criminal procedure code.
[40:38.480 --> 40:40.980]  It took me two hours to go through the whole thing
[40:42.060 --> 40:46.280]  because I'd been through it in Texas one time.
[40:46.280 --> 40:51.280]  And all of the codes for the most part
[40:52.580 --> 40:57.580]  are patterned on the federal code.
[40:58.100 --> 41:01.400]  So for every state, they're gonna be pretty much the same.
[41:01.400 --> 41:04.460]  And once you go through the code one time,
[41:04.460 --> 41:08.240]  it won't take near as long as you think it will.
[41:08.240 --> 41:11.460]  And don't even try to understand all of it.
[41:12.700 --> 41:16.120]  It's because of the way the code was put together.
[41:16.120 --> 41:19.180]  They put all of those things that seem to be
[41:19.180 --> 41:21.360]  in one category, in one chapter.
[41:22.260 --> 41:26.620]  But when I do due process, I jump from the front of the book
[41:26.620 --> 41:28.420]  to the back of the book, to the middle of the book,
[41:28.420 --> 41:30.680]  back to the front, back to the middle.
[41:30.680 --> 41:33.300]  And it seems real confusing.
[41:33.300 --> 41:34.980]  But once you've read through the whole thing once,
[41:34.980 --> 41:37.740]  don't even try to understand it, just read through it.
[41:37.740 --> 41:41.220]  Go back, read through it again,
[41:41.220 --> 41:43.060]  and you'll read something in the front
[41:43.060 --> 41:45.400]  like where 2.11 says when a judge sits
[41:45.400 --> 41:48.300]  for the purpose of examining into a criminal accusation,
[41:48.300 --> 41:49.620]  that's an examining trial.
[41:49.620 --> 41:54.620]  You'll say, oh, that's what chapter 16 was referring to.
[41:56.020 --> 41:59.940]  You'll start making these connections front and back,
[41:59.940 --> 42:03.420]  and it'll start fitting together as a whole.
[42:03.420 --> 42:06.300]  Two times through the penal code,
[42:06.300 --> 42:09.260]  two times through the code of criminal procedure,
[42:09.260 --> 42:14.260]  and you will be 10 steps ahead of every lawyer out there.
[42:14.260 --> 42:16.700]  I guarantee it.
[42:16.700 --> 42:17.940]  Yeah, I agree.
[42:17.940 --> 42:21.580]  And that's a good piece of advice to just read through it,
[42:21.580 --> 42:25.540]  even if you don't understand something, just keep going,
[42:25.540 --> 42:28.360]  because your mind will absorb it anyway,
[42:28.360 --> 42:32.100]  and your mind will understand it on a deeper level,
[42:32.100 --> 42:33.620]  and it'll come to you later.
[42:33.620 --> 42:36.460]  Yeah, and when you go through it a second time,
[42:36.460 --> 42:39.500]  your mind will say, oh yeah, I remember that,
[42:39.500 --> 42:43.060]  and it'll trigger something else that you read,
[42:43.060 --> 42:46.060]  and you'll begin to weave these pieces together.
[42:46.060 --> 42:47.600]  This is what Eddie's done.
[42:48.540 --> 42:51.020]  He's went through this a time or two,
[42:51.020 --> 42:53.500]  and he's found pieces all over the place,
[42:53.500 --> 42:57.580]  and they fit together, and I would not want to be
[42:57.580 --> 43:00.240]  the prosecutor who's trying to deal with him.
[43:01.780 --> 43:04.800]  Cindy, do you have any other questions for us?
[43:06.500 --> 43:11.500]  Well, there is some information out there
[43:11.500 --> 43:16.140]  that I guess it would do some kind of research
[43:16.140 --> 43:18.580]  to find out how accurate it is,
[43:18.580 --> 43:23.580]  but I heard that if you're stopped,
[43:23.780 --> 43:27.580]  if you have a police officer with these lights on
[43:27.580 --> 43:30.920]  trying to pull you over, and you're in the rural area,
[43:31.760 --> 43:36.100]  that you do not have to stop out in a place
[43:36.100 --> 43:41.100]  that you don't feel safe, that you are allowed to go to,
[43:42.540 --> 43:44.460]  some place that you feel safe,
[43:46.300 --> 43:49.700]  in case that police officer means harm,
[43:49.700 --> 43:52.860]  or he's not a real police officer,
[43:52.860 --> 43:55.980]  and that there's a phone number that you can call
[43:55.980 --> 44:00.100]  while you're driving and say, I have a police officer
[44:00.100 --> 44:01.700]  with these lights behind me,
[44:01.700 --> 44:04.560]  and I want to go to a safe place.
[44:04.560 --> 44:05.580]  Is that correct?
[44:05.580 --> 44:07.720]  That is very smart.
[44:09.300 --> 44:12.140]  Actually, it's the police that lets you know to do that.
[44:12.140 --> 44:15.180]  They're actually telling you to do that in many, many states
[44:15.180 --> 44:18.060]  since they have so many people imitating police officers
[44:18.060 --> 44:21.420]  out there right now that are pulling women over,
[44:21.420 --> 44:25.000]  abusing them, raping them, even killing them in some cases.
[44:25.000 --> 44:27.620]  So there have been lots of state patrols,
[44:27.620 --> 44:29.620]  especially that have started saying,
[44:29.620 --> 44:33.960]  if you feel for any reason that you're in such a position
[44:33.960 --> 44:36.300]  where that would be dangerous, go to a public place
[44:36.300 --> 44:37.420]  before stopping.
[44:37.420 --> 44:39.940]  Now, not every police officer likes that,
[44:39.940 --> 44:43.020]  and some of them get quite abusive after the fact,
[44:43.020 --> 44:45.600]  but the truth is, most of the cases I've read about
[44:45.600 --> 44:47.860]  that that's happened, the judge has always considered
[44:47.860 --> 44:49.780]  that to be a reasonable thing.
[44:49.780 --> 44:52.700]  Yes, and let me tell you about an experience I had.
[44:52.700 --> 44:54.820]  I'm pulling a big gooseneck trailer.
[44:54.820 --> 44:56.580]  It's four o'clock in the morning.
[44:57.460 --> 44:59.180]  Policeman turned his lights on
[44:59.180 --> 45:00.880]  because my trailer lights weren't working.
[45:00.880 --> 45:02.980]  I didn't know that at the time.
[45:02.980 --> 45:05.300]  I go down about a quarter of a mile
[45:05.300 --> 45:08.600]  and pull into a parking lot of a restaurant.
[45:10.160 --> 45:14.840]  The policeman gets out and walked up and said,
[45:15.780 --> 45:18.500]  I would like to thank you
[45:18.500 --> 45:21.840]  for finding a safe place to pull over.
[45:23.060 --> 45:28.060]  Now, my suggestion is that if you want to proceed
[45:28.060 --> 45:33.060]  to a place that's safe, drop your speed
[45:35.020 --> 45:37.840]  at about half of the speed limit.
[45:39.000 --> 45:41.240]  So it is very clear to the officer
[45:41.240 --> 45:43.380]  you are not trying to avoid him,
[45:44.520 --> 45:47.780]  and I can almost guarantee you every time
[45:47.780 --> 45:50.100]  they will follow you patiently
[45:50.100 --> 45:52.480]  until you find a safe place to pull over,
[45:52.480 --> 45:54.980]  but do not pass a safe place.
[45:54.980 --> 45:59.180]  If there is no safe place, stop right in the middle
[45:59.180 --> 46:00.020]  of the road.
[46:00.020 --> 46:02.900]  Okay, listen, listen, Cindy, we need to let you go
[46:02.900 --> 46:07.380]  because we have really like 20 callers on the board.
[46:08.500 --> 46:09.340]  Okay, thank you.
[46:09.340 --> 46:10.160]  I appreciate your call.
[46:10.160 --> 46:11.000]  Okay, thank you.
[46:11.000 --> 46:12.460]  Please call back in again.
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[48:41.900 --> 48:43.340]  Rule of Law.
[48:44.340 --> 48:47.300]  Okay, we got a lot of callers on the board.
[48:47.300 --> 48:53.500]  We're gonna do everything we can to take everybody's call in the next hour and 15 minutes.
[48:53.500 --> 48:56.060]  All right, we're gonna go to Russell in Texas.
[48:56.060 --> 48:57.980]  Hey Russell, thanks for calling in.
[48:57.980 --> 48:58.980]  What's on your mind?
[48:58.980 --> 48:59.980]  How you doing?
[48:59.980 --> 49:00.980]  Good.
[49:00.980 --> 49:05.940]  Well, I'm not sure about my mind because I think I got that Twitter disease or whatever
[49:05.940 --> 49:09.220]  like Randy's got.
[49:09.220 --> 49:11.060]  I think we all have it.
[49:11.060 --> 49:12.060]  My mother...
[49:12.060 --> 49:15.100]  Randy's is called wild turkey though.
[49:15.100 --> 49:18.220]  My mother tells me it's not gonna get better.
[49:18.220 --> 49:22.980]  It's that conflictor virus, you know, that just infected DPS.
[49:22.980 --> 49:26.660]  So since your brain's wrapped around law enforcement, you must have that.
[49:26.660 --> 49:32.700]  Well I think most of the DPS agents I've come across are afflicted with the cranial anal
[49:32.700 --> 49:36.020]  inversion virus.
[49:36.020 --> 49:44.300]  That's where it causes stomach cramps so bad that it causes you to hunch over so far that
[49:44.300 --> 49:46.740]  it forces your head up your butt.
[49:46.740 --> 49:53.540]  Anyway, when you were talking about the administrative code, I got on Lexus and I looked at it and
[49:53.540 --> 49:55.900]  it's downloadable off Lexus.
[49:55.900 --> 50:01.820]  But I just like went into one part of it on the transportation part that he was talking
[50:01.820 --> 50:07.940]  about and I typed in motor vehicle only and I come up with 1500 administrative cases on
[50:07.940 --> 50:09.700]  just that.
[50:09.700 --> 50:10.700]  Holy mackerel.
[50:10.700 --> 50:11.700]  That's what I...
[50:11.700 --> 50:12.700]  Interesting, isn't it?
[50:12.700 --> 50:17.820]  I haven't had even a chance to even look at it but that's interesting that there would
[50:17.820 --> 50:24.340]  be that many cases and administrative decisions on the term motor vehicle.
[50:24.340 --> 50:28.340]  But I wanted something else that would make the public realize what we're talking about
[50:28.340 --> 50:33.740]  here is do you see a motor vehicle salvage yard?
[50:33.740 --> 50:34.740]  You don't.
[50:34.740 --> 50:39.780]  You always see an automobile salvage yard or a truck salvage yard because once that
[50:39.780 --> 50:42.860]  vehicle was taken off the road, all of a sudden, it...
[50:42.860 --> 50:43.860]  It's not in commerce.
[50:43.860 --> 50:44.860]  That's right.
[50:44.860 --> 50:45.860]  It's not in commerce.
[50:45.860 --> 50:46.860]  Exactly.
[50:46.860 --> 50:51.260]  It goes back to being on an automobile or a truck.
[50:51.260 --> 50:55.220]  And most people don't realize that but just think about it.
[50:55.220 --> 51:01.020]  If you ever went to a salvage yard to get a park for a car, I mean, that's not a motor
[51:01.020 --> 51:06.900]  vehicle salvage yard or motor vehicle truck bangers, it's all automobile and truck salvage
[51:06.900 --> 51:07.900]  yard.
[51:07.900 --> 51:10.340]  Yeah.
[51:10.340 --> 51:14.700]  Which takes us right back to the use consideration I was talking about before when the court
[51:14.700 --> 51:20.660]  said it is the use to which the vehicle is put, not its composition or design or method
[51:20.660 --> 51:21.660]  of locomotion.
[51:21.660 --> 51:22.660]  Right.
[51:22.660 --> 51:28.340]  And then when you said earlier about emailing some people and then, you know, you said something
[51:28.340 --> 51:33.460]  about the 15-month deal, Randy, that was when I was talking to him about the case that,
[51:33.460 --> 51:40.060]  you know, you wouldn't witness when they convicted me in court, what, 10 days ago or so.
[51:40.060 --> 51:42.860]  They didn't have a complaint and stuff.
[51:42.860 --> 51:44.340]  They let it go for 15 months.
[51:44.340 --> 51:48.540]  Then all of a sudden, they mailed it to me after I made an appearance.
[51:48.540 --> 51:49.540]  Yeah.
[51:49.540 --> 51:51.820]  And they had already written you a citation.
[51:51.820 --> 51:56.780]  So at the time the prosecution commenced, you know, there were a lot of...
[51:56.780 --> 52:03.980]  In every ticket case, they screw everything up so bad that there are a whole stack of
[52:03.980 --> 52:05.580]  things we can do.
[52:05.580 --> 52:13.860]  And this is what I hope to develop with Eddie, is a set of documentation that will address
[52:13.860 --> 52:19.900]  all of the legal issues and preserve them for appeal.
[52:19.900 --> 52:26.700]  So the individual doesn't have to be knowledgeable enough to argue every one of them in court.
[52:26.700 --> 52:33.060]  If we develop a good set of documentation, the argument is there.
[52:33.060 --> 52:37.220]  And all the individual has to say is, I stand on my documentation.
[52:37.220 --> 52:46.820]  And if the court orders the person to argue the motion in court, just read it.
[52:46.820 --> 52:48.140]  Exactly.
[52:48.140 --> 52:49.140]  That drives them crazy.
[52:49.140 --> 52:53.540]  And if they ask you a question, just say, okay, I'll get...
[52:53.540 --> 52:54.540]  It's in here.
[52:54.540 --> 52:55.540]  It's down a ways.
[52:55.540 --> 52:58.300]  Just get to it and just read the whole thing to them.
[52:58.300 --> 53:01.500]  Every time they ask you a question, read the whole thing again.
[53:01.500 --> 53:05.900]  Now, Russell, do you have a criminal district court in your county?
[53:05.900 --> 53:08.540]  Well, that was Travis County, yeah.
[53:08.540 --> 53:10.340]  There's a criminal district court there.
[53:10.340 --> 53:14.300]  I guarantee you, you can have it thrown out for like a subject matter jurisdiction simply
[53:14.300 --> 53:16.740]  because there's no information filed in your case.
[53:16.740 --> 53:19.020]  I guarantee you there's not one in your file anywhere.
[53:19.020 --> 53:20.020]  Well, I know that.
[53:20.020 --> 53:27.260]  And I'm going to go ahead and mandamus it to the upper court and let them overturn it,
[53:27.260 --> 53:28.260]  the decision.
[53:28.260 --> 53:29.260]  Anyway...
[53:29.260 --> 53:30.980]  Actually, you don't have to do that.
[53:30.980 --> 53:36.020]  If the court acted completely without jurisdiction, everything they did is null and void.
[53:36.020 --> 53:37.700]  There's nothing to overturn.
[53:37.700 --> 53:42.380]  You just go to the higher court and show them that there's no information filed as required
[53:42.380 --> 53:43.940]  by law.
[53:43.940 --> 53:45.820]  The lower court had no jurisdiction...
[53:45.820 --> 53:51.900]  I think we lost, let's go to Craig for a second.
[53:51.900 --> 54:00.140]  But in Russell's case, he told the judge that he had filed criminal charges against the
[54:00.140 --> 54:05.140]  judge and that she was disqualified.
[54:05.140 --> 54:12.780]  But the judge made it clear, Russell, it was her court and she made the rules.
[54:12.780 --> 54:17.740]  The problem wasn't that she would say such a thing.
[54:17.740 --> 54:22.260]  The problem was that she would imagine such a thing.
[54:22.260 --> 54:23.260]  What did I tell her?
[54:23.260 --> 54:24.260]  I don't recall.
[54:24.260 --> 54:30.020]  I told her, this is not your court, this is the people's court, you're just using it.
[54:30.020 --> 54:31.020]  Yeah.
[54:31.020 --> 54:35.460]  I wanted to stand up and say, your honor, your honor, excuse me, I thought this was
[54:35.460 --> 54:37.540]  my court.
[54:37.540 --> 54:41.560]  And I very generously allow you to administer it according to my law.
[54:41.560 --> 54:45.780]  But I kind of figured that Bayleaf over there was already ready to beat me up and throw
[54:45.780 --> 54:51.300]  me out because I had been annoying them before that.
[54:51.300 --> 54:52.300]  Right.
[54:52.300 --> 54:56.980]  There's something else that's interesting in the Texas administrative code.
[54:56.980 --> 55:04.300]  Under the Texas Department of Transportation, they got a Chapter 24 as a trans-Texas corridor.
[55:04.300 --> 55:09.580]  Now we've been hearing things that the trans-Texas corridor is basically a dead issue now.
[55:09.580 --> 55:10.580]  How could it be a dead issue?
[55:10.580 --> 55:17.100]  It's got a phone chapter under Texas administrative code.
[55:17.100 --> 55:21.140]  That is interesting.
[55:21.140 --> 55:24.460]  So just by, since I've been waiting on the phone, been looking through this whole thing
[55:24.460 --> 55:29.940]  and finding out all these different things, and Eddie, I'll turn around and try to send
[55:29.940 --> 55:34.780]  you the important parts of the trans-code Department of Transportation and that way
[55:34.780 --> 55:35.780]  you can have it.
[55:35.780 --> 55:40.300]  But it does not seem to be, for some reason, you know, when you download everything else
[55:40.300 --> 55:42.980]  from Lexus and Nexus, you've got all the case law.
[55:42.980 --> 55:46.980]  But this does not have case law attached.
[55:46.980 --> 55:51.380]  You have to actually do a search of the administrative cases for different wording.
[55:51.380 --> 56:02.100]  Like I did the search for motor vehicle and come up with 1,471 cases.
[56:02.100 --> 56:03.380]  Am I still hooked up?
[56:03.380 --> 56:04.740]  Yes, yes.
[56:04.740 --> 56:06.540]  Oh, oh.
[56:06.540 --> 56:09.980]  I'm looking at this call screen and I can't tell if I'm still hooked up.
[56:09.980 --> 56:10.980]  Okay.
[56:10.980 --> 56:11.980]  Okay.
[56:11.980 --> 56:12.980]  Yeah.
[56:12.980 --> 56:14.980]  Eddie, we got you back, right?
[56:14.980 --> 56:15.980]  Yeah.
[56:15.980 --> 56:16.980]  I don't know what happened.
[56:16.980 --> 56:18.980]  Skype just disappeared and so did y'all.
[56:18.980 --> 56:21.980]  Well, that happens with the internet.
[56:21.980 --> 56:26.980]  Anyway, when I get done downloading some of this, Eddie, I'll send it to you.
[56:26.980 --> 56:27.980]  Sure.
[56:27.980 --> 56:28.980]  Thanks.
[56:28.980 --> 56:29.980]  Okay.
[56:29.980 --> 56:30.980]  Talk to you later.
[56:30.980 --> 56:31.980]  Yes, sir.
[56:31.980 --> 56:32.980]  Thank you, Russell.
[56:32.980 --> 56:33.980]  All right.
[56:33.980 --> 56:34.980]  Thanks, Russell.
[56:34.980 --> 56:35.980]  Okay.
[56:35.980 --> 56:37.980]  We're going to go now to Dominic in Texas.
[56:37.980 --> 56:41.980]  Hey, Dominic, thanks for calling in.
[56:41.980 --> 56:42.980]  What's your question?
[56:42.980 --> 56:43.980]  Good.
[56:43.980 --> 56:44.980]  That's good.
[56:44.980 --> 56:48.980]  I had a quick question, but before that I had something else to add to that.
[56:48.980 --> 56:53.860]  The lady, like she was saying that if she felt uncomfortable in an area, another thing
[56:53.860 --> 56:58.460]  that's real good to do is turn on the hazard lights when you're driving, you know, slow
[56:58.460 --> 57:02.420]  like that to acknowledge that you know he's back there, the officer here.
[57:02.420 --> 57:10.340]  That is a very good suggestion because then it prevents or hopefully would prevent the
[57:10.340 --> 57:14.300]  police officer from thinking that you're trying to flee.
[57:14.300 --> 57:15.300]  That's a great suggestion.
[57:15.300 --> 57:18.320]  That is a great suggestion.
[57:18.320 --> 57:23.060]  And that's the main thing to let the officer know that you're not trying to get away from
[57:23.060 --> 57:24.060]  him.
[57:24.060 --> 57:26.420]  That'll keep him from getting too excited.
[57:26.420 --> 57:28.100]  Right.
[57:28.100 --> 57:36.060]  I was in New York and on the expressways in New York is a long way for exits and a policeman
[57:36.060 --> 57:43.740]  had his lights on behind the car and the car was driving about 10 miles an hour slower
[57:43.740 --> 57:50.420]  than everybody else in the outside lane and we were long ways approaching them.
[57:50.420 --> 57:56.260]  They went a very long way and the policeman just hung back there, you know, he's just
[57:56.260 --> 57:59.500]  waiting for the guy to find a place to pull over.
[57:59.500 --> 58:07.700]  So clearly he wasn't concerned a bit and I was very pleased to see that and the few
[58:07.700 --> 58:14.700]  times I've had officers get upset were several years ago recently when I would go a ways
[58:14.700 --> 58:17.060]  to find a place to pull over.
[58:17.060 --> 58:22.100]  The police seem to have no problem with it at all as long as I didn't speed, you know,
[58:22.100 --> 58:28.500]  if I slow down slower than everybody else to give him some signal that I'm not trying
[58:28.500 --> 58:29.500]  to get away from him.
[58:29.500 --> 58:30.500]  All right.
[58:30.500 --> 58:31.500]  Well, listen, we're about to go to break.
[58:31.500 --> 58:33.940]  Dominic, do you have any other questions for us?
[58:33.940 --> 58:34.940]  Yes, ma'am.
[58:34.940 --> 58:35.940]  I did have a question.
[58:35.940 --> 58:36.940]  I'll wait till after the break.
[58:36.940 --> 58:37.940]  Okay.
[58:37.940 --> 58:38.940]  Okay.
[58:38.940 --> 58:39.940]  Just hang on the line.
[58:39.940 --> 58:40.940]  We'll be right back.
[58:40.940 --> 58:45.300]  We've got Alfred from Texas, Jeff from Michigan, Michigan, Jerry from Texas, Dan Reel from
[58:45.300 --> 58:47.900]  Connecticut, George and others.
[58:47.900 --> 58:49.380]  Please stay on the line.
[58:49.380 --> 58:51.500]  We will be taking all your calls shortly.
[58:51.500 --> 58:52.500]  Okay.
[59:21.500 --> 59:23.500]  All right.
[59:23.500 --> 59:25.500]  All right.
[59:25.500 --> 59:27.500]  All right.
[59:27.500 --> 59:52.500]  All right.
[59:52.500 --> 01:00:01.220]  All right.
[01:00:01.220 --> 01:00:06.500]  This April will mark 14 years since the Oklahoma City bombing claimed 169 lives.
[01:00:06.500 --> 01:00:12.340]  Monday, April 20th at 7 PM, Brave New Books in Austin, Texas is presenting a discussion
[01:00:12.340 --> 01:00:17.740]  by the hosts of Radio Free Oklahoma addressing many unanswered questions about that tragedy.
[01:00:17.740 --> 01:00:21.740]  Did you know that there was more than one bomb involved in this tragedy?
[01:00:21.740 --> 01:00:25.340]  Did you know that there are many concrete links between the Oklahoma City bombing and
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[01:00:26.340 --> 01:00:31.020]  Did you know that current Attorney General Eric Holder was directly involved with a cover
[01:00:31.020 --> 01:00:33.140]  up following the Oklahoma City bombing?
[01:00:33.140 --> 01:00:38.900]  Monday, April 20th, 7 PM at Brave New Books, Chris Emory, Andrew Griffin, and Haaland Bandinov
[01:00:38.900 --> 01:00:43.580]  will be discussing the results of their investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing.
[01:00:43.580 --> 01:00:47.800]  This event will also be broadcast on the Rule of Law radio program hosted by Deborah Stevens
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[01:01:21.420 --> 01:01:31.420]  Yeah, story for everyone to hear, about how we're not gonna give in to the fear.
[01:01:31.420 --> 01:01:50.380]  I will occupy my father's house, till he returns, I will occupy my father's house,
[01:01:50.380 --> 01:02:11.300]  I will occupy my father's house, I will occupy my father's house, I will occupy my father's
[01:02:11.300 --> 01:02:12.840]  house.
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[01:02:14.560 --> 01:02:21.020]  Alright, we may have to go into extended session tonight like we do sometimes because we've
[01:02:21.020 --> 01:02:25.780]  got so many callers and we want to make sure we take all your calls and we only have an
[01:02:25.780 --> 01:02:28.740]  hour left and man, we got a lot of calls.
[01:02:28.740 --> 01:02:29.740]  So don't worry.
[01:02:29.740 --> 01:02:30.740]  Don't worry.
[01:02:30.740 --> 01:02:32.740]  We'll, we'll get to everybody.
[01:02:32.740 --> 01:02:36.540]  Um, we're, we're speaking with Dominic in Texas right now.
[01:02:36.540 --> 01:02:38.500]  Okay, Dominic, you said you had another question?
[01:02:38.500 --> 01:02:39.500]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:02:39.500 --> 01:02:40.980]  I'll keep it brief to be considered.
[01:02:40.980 --> 01:02:45.720]  Um, yeah, I have also been reading on the Texas transportation code and I have not found
[01:02:45.720 --> 01:02:53.580]  anything in code saying that it's a violation not to have a sticker or tags.
[01:02:53.580 --> 01:03:00.520]  But my question would be, like, how would we be able to prove in court or one way that
[01:03:00.520 --> 01:03:07.480]  we actually did not have tags on the vehicle because, you know, when you go to court out
[01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:13.860]  of hand, the judges or the court will take the word over the cop or over you because,
[01:03:13.860 --> 01:03:16.380]  you know, that's their moneymaker.
[01:03:16.380 --> 01:03:21.620]  So how would be, you know, how would one way be to prove that you never did have the court
[01:03:21.620 --> 01:03:22.620]  the tag?
[01:03:22.620 --> 01:03:26.380]  Actually, I think you're taking the wrong approach on that one, Dominic.
[01:03:26.380 --> 01:03:30.300]  I think you'd be better off trying to make the cop prove you're in a motor vehicle that
[01:03:30.300 --> 01:03:33.100]  had to have the sticker to begin with.
[01:03:33.100 --> 01:03:34.100]  Okay.
[01:03:34.100 --> 01:03:39.820]  Well, to get to your, to go directly to your question, take a photograph.
[01:03:39.820 --> 01:03:42.820]  Well, they can always say, oh, he took the tags off.
[01:03:42.820 --> 01:03:43.820]  No, no.
[01:03:43.820 --> 01:03:45.820]  See, here's, here's their problem.
[01:03:45.820 --> 01:03:46.820]  Yes.
[01:03:46.820 --> 01:03:53.980]  Is you are a sovereign citizen and they have, they filed this complaint against you and
[01:03:53.980 --> 01:03:58.460]  essentially arrested you without a warrant.
[01:03:58.460 --> 01:04:08.100]  The presumption is the arrest was improper and in any case where there exists the word
[01:04:08.100 --> 01:04:17.220]  of the accuser against the word of the accused without corroborating evidence in the United
[01:04:17.220 --> 01:04:20.860]  States, there is the presumption of innocence.
[01:04:20.860 --> 01:04:32.220]  Therefore, the court must accept the word of the accused if there's no extenuating circumstances.
[01:04:32.220 --> 01:04:40.060]  So you come in and the officer says you had expired plates, then you say, no, I didn't.
[01:04:40.060 --> 01:04:42.100]  And they say, do you have proof?
[01:04:42.100 --> 01:04:47.300]  I have this photograph, shows I had no plates.
[01:04:47.300 --> 01:04:53.900]  And the, and the prosecution says, well, they might have taken the plates off, then taken
[01:04:53.900 --> 01:04:56.020]  the photograph.
[01:04:56.020 --> 01:05:00.180]  And you get to say, prove it.
[01:05:00.180 --> 01:05:04.020]  I've done, I'm sorry.
[01:05:04.020 --> 01:05:09.260]  What I've done is I actually have people that friends of mine that the day I bought the
[01:05:09.260 --> 01:05:14.740]  car and I did everything I did, I filled out an affidavit, had them all signed a independent
[01:05:14.740 --> 01:05:20.740]  affidavit, went down with it, notarized certifying that there are no such stickers, plates or
[01:05:20.740 --> 01:05:23.500]  anything on my car.
[01:05:23.500 --> 01:05:25.820]  As of this date, this gentleman removed these.
[01:05:25.820 --> 01:05:26.820]  I was a witness.
[01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:27.820]  It's not there.
[01:05:27.820 --> 01:05:28.820]  Have it notarized.
[01:05:28.820 --> 01:05:29.820]  End of story.
[01:05:29.820 --> 01:05:30.820]  End of story.
[01:05:30.820 --> 01:05:31.820]  All right.
[01:05:31.820 --> 01:05:32.820]  There we go.
[01:05:32.820 --> 01:05:33.820]  All right.
[01:05:33.820 --> 01:05:34.820]  Well, I'll get off the phone with somebody else.
[01:05:34.820 --> 01:05:35.820]  Get on.
[01:05:35.820 --> 01:05:36.820]  Y'all have a great evening.
[01:05:36.820 --> 01:05:37.820]  Thank you so much for calling in, Dominic.
[01:05:37.820 --> 01:05:38.820]  Thank you.
[01:05:38.820 --> 01:05:39.820]  Bye bye.
[01:05:39.820 --> 01:05:40.820]  Thank you.
[01:05:40.820 --> 01:05:41.820]  Okay.
[01:05:41.820 --> 01:05:42.820]  Moving right along.
[01:05:42.820 --> 01:05:47.580]  We're going to go to Alfred in Texas.
[01:05:47.580 --> 01:05:49.820]  Hey, Alfred, thanks for calling in.
[01:05:49.820 --> 01:05:50.820]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:05:50.820 --> 01:05:53.820]  Well, I just have a question.
[01:05:53.820 --> 01:05:56.460]  I got a ticket.
[01:05:56.460 --> 01:05:59.900]  I was parking the parking lot.
[01:05:59.900 --> 01:06:06.980]  My car was not working.
[01:06:06.980 --> 01:06:08.980]  What was the nature of the ticket?
[01:06:08.980 --> 01:06:16.060]  They gave me a ticket for no insurance.
[01:06:16.060 --> 01:06:17.780]  And you were in a parking lot?
[01:06:17.780 --> 01:06:18.780]  Yes.
[01:06:18.780 --> 01:06:22.140]  Why did the police approach you in the first place?
[01:06:22.140 --> 01:06:24.340]  They come because I was there too long.
[01:06:24.340 --> 01:06:28.460]  They come to investigate, see what, but I was doing this so long.
[01:06:28.460 --> 01:06:31.140]  And then I told them that my car was disabled.
[01:06:31.140 --> 01:06:35.940]  And he said, well, let me see your license and your insurance.
[01:06:35.940 --> 01:06:41.820]  And here I take it for no big problem.
[01:06:41.820 --> 01:06:43.940]  He's got a problem.
[01:06:43.940 --> 01:06:50.060]  My insurance expired on no insurance in a parking lot.
[01:06:50.060 --> 01:06:52.740]  I would like to see that law.
[01:06:52.740 --> 01:06:58.020]  My insurance expired on the 7th, it was on the 10th.
[01:06:58.020 --> 01:07:01.940]  And he wrote me the ticket that you get your insurance and then come back.
[01:07:01.940 --> 01:07:11.020]  I got to go back to Carissa Springs and take the insurance and he said I might drop it.
[01:07:11.020 --> 01:07:20.420]  I suggest you take along with you a criminal accusation of malicious prosecution, tampering
[01:07:20.420 --> 01:07:27.940]  with the government document and aggravated perjury.
[01:07:27.940 --> 01:07:36.020]  Because he accused you of failing to maintain financial responsibility insurance.
[01:07:36.020 --> 01:07:42.700]  You only must maintain financial responsibility insurance if you are operating the motor vehicle
[01:07:42.700 --> 01:07:49.180]  on the streets and thoroughfares of the state of Texas.
[01:07:49.180 --> 01:07:52.100]  You were not on the street of thoroughfare of the state of Texas.
[01:07:52.100 --> 01:07:58.460]  The officer had no subject matter jurisdiction, period.
[01:07:58.460 --> 01:08:07.020]  I recently read a court case where a guy had got a DUI and the court threw it out.
[01:08:07.020 --> 01:08:13.860]  Because the officer claimed that he stopped the individual for running a stop sign while
[01:08:13.860 --> 01:08:19.700]  exiting a parking lot from a Whole Foods Market.
[01:08:19.700 --> 01:08:24.740]  The stop sign was literally on public property.
[01:08:24.740 --> 01:08:27.440]  It was right at the street.
[01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:34.660]  But the stop sign directed traffic exiting a private parking lot.
[01:08:34.660 --> 01:08:42.320]  And the court said transportation code does not apply to private property.
[01:08:42.320 --> 01:08:49.820]  And even though the stop sign was on public property, it regulated traffic from a private
[01:08:49.820 --> 01:08:58.660]  parking lot and the police had no authority to exercise jurisdiction.
[01:08:58.660 --> 01:09:06.620]  So you're completely in the parking lot.
[01:09:06.620 --> 01:09:13.100]  If you shot somebody in the parking lot, that would come under penal code, but no financial
[01:09:13.100 --> 01:09:20.260]  responsibility insurance comes under transportation code and that only has jurisdiction on the
[01:09:20.260 --> 01:09:22.620]  public streets and thoroughfares.
[01:09:22.620 --> 01:09:27.180]  But now this also goes to what I like to call a daisy chain statute.
[01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:35.100]  In Texas, you cannot get insurance on your motor vehicle without either a valid permit
[01:09:35.100 --> 01:09:40.860]  as in temporary license permit or the actual license itself.
[01:09:40.860 --> 01:09:44.020]  They won't issue insurance in your name without that.
[01:09:44.020 --> 01:09:49.660]  It's very, very clear under 521.021, the only people that are required to have that license
[01:09:49.660 --> 01:09:53.180]  are those engaged in commerce on the roads.
[01:09:53.180 --> 01:09:59.060]  Since you cannot be expected to have insurance if you are not and cannot have a license,
[01:09:59.060 --> 01:10:01.460]  they're tied together.
[01:10:01.460 --> 01:10:04.020]  They can't hit you with no insurance.
[01:10:04.020 --> 01:10:08.600]  If you are not required to have the license that the carrier for the insurance requires
[01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.320]  you to have, they're mutually exclusive.
[01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:17.620]  You can't have one without the other.
[01:10:17.620 --> 01:10:19.580]  This is going to be fun.
[01:10:19.580 --> 01:10:23.780]  I have a ticket for no insurance.
[01:10:23.780 --> 01:10:24.780]  I had insurance.
[01:10:24.780 --> 01:10:31.040]  I just didn't have a current certificate with me.
[01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:40.860]  I want to go in and argue this issue before the court that since I wasn't in commerce
[01:10:40.860 --> 01:10:46.500]  that I'm not required to have insurance.
[01:10:46.500 --> 01:10:50.660]  That's absolutely right.
[01:10:50.660 --> 01:10:55.980]  That's going to be fun.
[01:10:55.980 --> 01:11:01.020]  But basically what the officer did was he's committed a perjurious statement.
[01:11:01.020 --> 01:11:07.100]  He obviously issued the citation to you in what you could consider a form of harassment
[01:11:07.100 --> 01:11:10.940]  because he did it in direct violation of the requirements of the offense and the statute
[01:11:10.940 --> 01:11:12.840]  itself.
[01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:17.220]  You were not operating a motor vehicle on the roads and highways of this state without
[01:11:17.220 --> 01:11:19.300]  financial responsibility.
[01:11:19.300 --> 01:11:25.180]  That makes the citation itself outright perjurious.
[01:11:25.180 --> 01:11:28.020]  That's what I was stating to start with.
[01:11:28.020 --> 01:11:34.860]  Alfred, he came on to private property where he had no subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:11:34.860 --> 01:11:42.180]  It may not be presumed that the officer was somehow unaware that he didn't have subject
[01:11:42.180 --> 01:11:43.180]  matter jurisdiction.
[01:11:43.180 --> 01:11:48.700]  Well, now this was not a city building parking lot or a county building parking lot, was
[01:11:48.700 --> 01:11:49.700]  it?
[01:11:49.700 --> 01:11:50.700]  No.
[01:11:50.700 --> 01:11:52.180]  It was Walmart parking lot.
[01:11:52.180 --> 01:11:53.180]  Yeah.
[01:11:53.180 --> 01:11:54.180]  Private property.
[01:11:54.180 --> 01:11:55.180]  No subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:11:55.180 --> 01:11:56.180]  Okay.
[01:11:56.180 --> 01:12:10.900]  The thing to do is you need to prepare some type of a motion stating that, objecting to
[01:12:10.900 --> 01:12:18.460]  the citation stating that you were on private property and you were not required to have
[01:12:18.460 --> 01:12:23.140]  insurance on private property.
[01:12:23.140 --> 01:12:30.060]  What the prosecutor will probably want to say is, well, did you drive the vehicle on
[01:12:30.060 --> 01:12:40.220]  the public thoroughfares without insurance and you say, that's not before the court.
[01:12:40.220 --> 01:12:44.380]  When I was stopped by the officer, I was on private property.
[01:12:44.380 --> 01:12:51.660]  He did not observe me on the public thoroughfares, therefore he has no case.
[01:12:51.660 --> 01:12:57.300]  Yeah, if you answer his question, he's going to seek an amended complaint and come after
[01:12:57.300 --> 01:12:59.820]  you again.
[01:12:59.820 --> 01:13:03.620]  You back him down on the charge they're currently trying to face you with where it has to be
[01:13:03.620 --> 01:13:06.940]  dismissed with prejudice.
[01:13:06.940 --> 01:13:11.980]  Okay.
[01:13:11.980 --> 01:13:20.780]  I know this sounds difficult, but it's about maintaining posture, keeping the issues before
[01:13:20.780 --> 01:13:24.180]  the court in perspective.
[01:13:24.180 --> 01:13:32.300]  If the prosecutor asks you about anything other than the issue before the court, the
[01:13:32.300 --> 01:13:34.820]  question is improper.
[01:13:34.820 --> 01:13:38.100]  Were you driving on the streets without a license?
[01:13:38.100 --> 01:13:40.500]  That's none of your business.
[01:13:40.500 --> 01:13:41.500]  Exactly.
[01:13:41.500 --> 01:13:46.340]  Now, if you've never written a motion, just keep this in mind.
[01:13:46.340 --> 01:13:50.740]  I'm still learning to do this process myself and Jurisdictionary has helped me a lot with
[01:13:50.740 --> 01:13:51.740]  that.
[01:13:51.740 --> 01:13:57.660]  But remember that you simply list the facts of what happened in this case, what you've
[01:13:57.660 --> 01:14:03.780]  been accused of and what you were doing and make sure that you follow that up with an
[01:14:03.780 --> 01:14:09.620]  order of what you're asking the court to do if this is a motion to dismiss.
[01:14:09.620 --> 01:14:15.820]  You write up an order that says all charges in this instant case are to be dismissed and
[01:14:15.820 --> 01:14:17.780]  you put granted or denied.
[01:14:17.780 --> 01:14:23.220]  Make sure you give that judge everything he needs to get rid of your case in one shot.
[01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:24.220]  Yeah.
[01:14:24.220 --> 01:14:25.220]  Okay.
[01:14:25.220 --> 01:14:26.220]  Let me explain how to do this.
[01:14:26.220 --> 01:14:29.500]  This is not as difficult as it sounds.
[01:14:29.500 --> 01:14:34.540]  A motion is like a letter to the court.
[01:14:34.540 --> 01:14:38.660]  You know, when you write a letter, you put your name at the top up there in the center
[01:14:38.660 --> 01:14:43.620]  and then over at the left, you put the person that it goes to, you put their name in.
[01:14:43.620 --> 01:14:45.460]  That's a specific form.
[01:14:45.460 --> 01:14:54.740]  A motion has a somewhat different form and you can look at any motion that a court has.
[01:14:54.740 --> 01:15:02.100]  Generally, on a motion form, on the left, if it's criminal, you have the state of Texas,
[01:15:02.100 --> 01:15:05.060]  V and then you put your name.
[01:15:05.060 --> 01:15:09.620]  On the right, you put whatever court it goes in.
[01:15:09.620 --> 01:15:13.820]  Above both of those, you put the cause number.
[01:15:13.820 --> 01:15:19.500]  Beneath both of those, you put the date and then you put the name of what the motion is.
[01:15:19.500 --> 01:15:24.780]  In this case, it'd be a motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction.
[01:15:24.780 --> 01:15:28.060]  Then you tell the judge who you are.
[01:15:28.060 --> 01:15:37.460]  You tell the judge why he has jurisdiction unless the case is already ongoing and it's
[01:15:37.460 --> 01:15:43.020]  clear that this is the right court.
[01:15:43.020 --> 01:15:52.380]  You tell the judge what the basic facts are and then tell the judge why he should do what
[01:15:52.380 --> 01:16:01.020]  you want him to do and then in what's the prayer, the last paragraph or the last chapter
[01:16:01.020 --> 01:16:04.100]  on a motion is the prayer.
[01:16:04.100 --> 01:16:08.300]  In the prayer, it's not that you're praying to the judge.
[01:16:08.300 --> 01:16:11.980]  You are telling the judge what you want him to do.
[01:16:11.980 --> 01:16:17.860]  You want him to dismiss this case for lack of jurisdiction and then you step outside
[01:16:17.860 --> 01:16:22.940]  yourself and you become the judge and if the judge agreed with what you said, what would
[01:16:22.940 --> 01:16:24.420]  the judge say?
[01:16:24.420 --> 01:16:33.860]  I hereby order that this case be dismissed with prejudice or without and then you put
[01:16:33.860 --> 01:16:38.660]  granted or denied and the judge will check one or the other and then you can put any
[01:16:38.660 --> 01:16:44.260]  alternative with all this to be dismissed without prejudice, with prejudice, without
[01:16:44.260 --> 01:16:45.260]  prejudice.
[01:16:45.260 --> 01:16:46.260]  It's not really difficult.
[01:16:46.260 --> 01:16:47.260]  Okay.
[01:16:47.260 --> 01:16:48.260]  Okay.
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[01:18:27.480 --> 01:18:33.500]  From Genesis to Revelation Babylon they now say that you wrong
[01:18:33.500 --> 01:18:41.660]  Bam, bam, I tried in true creation The book of life they say I'm young
[01:18:41.660 --> 01:18:47.500]  From Genesis to Revelation Babylon they now say that you wrong
[01:18:47.500 --> 01:18:54.440]  You fool of generation X, Y and Z You made Babylon to water down before we
[01:18:54.440 --> 01:19:00.960]  We no go drink tea, Babylon we could see A medical war, you try to kill all of we
[01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:07.440]  The poor people, we a suffer daily But the Book of Life, man, we shall guide we
[01:19:07.440 --> 01:19:13.440]  No join your Navy, no join your Army So Babylon, come listen carefully
[01:19:13.440 --> 01:19:21.000]  Hey, charity through creation The Book of Life, we say in Ami
[01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:27.480]  From Genesis to Revelation Babylon, they now say that you're wrong
[01:19:27.480 --> 01:19:34.000]  Hey, charity through creation The Book of Life, we say in Ami
[01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  From Genesis to Revelation Babylon, they now say that you're wrong
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:47.000]  Hey, we full of generation X, Y and Z Babylon, but you no go full of this generation, see
[01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:53.000]  You say that we no blind, you no say we can't see Your politicians, them you want we control
[01:19:53.000 --> 01:20:00.000]  But a lie, them a tell, them a tell a stinking story But the Book of Life, man, you know we read it
[01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  And yes, Babylon, that's why you can't control it Say freedom or something, we a go fight for it
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:13.000]  So in the desert, in this generation, what we see The youth get in, but them get in so angry
[01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  Babylon, now you a mislead the youth, them they lead You no impeach them, but they believe you say so
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:46.000]  Charity through creation
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:56.000]  Preparing a motion sound real easy and I didn't finish it out as good as I intended
[01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  But each motion should have an order
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:08.000]  Have a prayer, it has a jurisdiction section normally
[01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:14.000]  It has, you need to tell the judge what the facts are
[01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:21.000]  Tell him what the law is and why he should do what you want him to do
[01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:27.000]  And then ask him to do what you want him to do, you do that in the prayer
[01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:36.000]  And then you pretend like you're the judge, either agreeing, giving you the order that you want
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:44.000]  Or giving you the opposite, so you say all things requested in the motion are hereby granted
[01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:50.000]  And you put granted, denied, and you put a line next to it where the judge can exit
[01:21:50.000 --> 01:22:01.000]  Any alternative, whatever you want, the first citation is dismissed without prejudice or with prejudice
[01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  Granted or denied, second citation is dismissed, granted or denied
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  And then generally in an order on the last thing they put in
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:20.000]  And other, what's the word, remedy, not remedy
[01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:26.000]  And other remedies as listed here and you put like three or four lines
[01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.000]  So the judge can write in anything he wants to
[01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.000]  And then it put a place under it for him to sign
[01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:41.000]  If you look on Juris Imprudence website, I have a website, jurisimprudence.com
[01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:49.000]  Look at some of the motions, look in jurisdictions I have annoyed or in individual files
[01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  And you'll find motions that we filed and you'll see how they're put together
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  A motion's really pretty simple
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.000]  If you haven't done anything in law, it looks complex at first
[01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:05.000]  But every motion looks almost exactly alike
[01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  Same heading, same ending, they all have a jurisdiction section, they all have a statement of facts
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:18.000]  They all have a section where you tell him why he should do what you want, they all have a prayer
[01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:25.000]  So once you've done one or two of them, it'll really get pretty simple
[01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:28.000]  Does that make you sound a little easier?
[01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:31.000]  I think Alfred dropped off the line
[01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  Oh, I don't blame him, I wasn't as clear as I meant to be
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:38.000]  About how to put him to sleep
[01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:40.000]  Okay, let's move ahead
[01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:45.000]  Okay, we're going to go now to Christopher in Illinois or Illinois
[01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.000]  We'll see how he wants to pronounce it
[01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:51.000]  I think he's a first time caller, Christopher, thanks for calling in
[01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:52.000]  Hello, can you hear me?
[01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.000]  Yes, is this your first time calling in?
[01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:59.000]  Yes, I had dropped the line so I thought I had gone to the back of the queue, so thank you
[01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:03.000]  Thank you for calling in and thank you for listening
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  Have you been listening to our show for long?
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.000]  No, this is my first time, it was on the recommendation of Wendy in Tennessee
[01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.000]  Oh, excellent
[01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  The Wendy
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:19.000]  Yes, I've been working with her for the last couple of weeks with a situation that I have up in Illinois
[01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:21.000]  I've got two court cases happening right now
[01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:26.000]  but what I actually have called about is a situation that happened two days ago
[01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  First of all, I'd like to preface that I have listened to all this stuff about the administrative rules and so on
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:39.000]  and I have come across some of the oddities that that stuff has up here
[01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  and it's been a little bit confusing
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:46.000]  so hearing what you have had to say has been enlightening, so to speak
[01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:51.000]  Okay, on to the situation
[01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  I was just driving in my vehicle, or traveling as it's called now
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  and I had a passenger in the vehicle with me
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:09.000]  and there was two lanes going down into one because of some road construction vehicle on the right-hand side
[01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:13.000]  and there was a state trooper behind it with his lights on
[01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:17.000]  and my vehicle at the time had a cracked windshield
[01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:21.000]  and as I pulled over to the left to go by the roadworks
[01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:25.000]  I saw the trooper pull out and go a few cars behind me
[01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  and then when I turned down into the side streets towards my friend's, my passenger's house
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:36.000]  he pulled me over or he had motioned me to stop with the lights
[01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:41.000]  and now I have an expired Canadian driving license
[01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  and I do have valid insurance, the truck is in the corporation name
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:50.000]  so I first of all asked him why was I pulled over
[01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:57.000]  and he just quoted me a code for the broken or the cracked windshield
[01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:03.000]  and the long shot of it was
[01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:07.000]  I told him that I was traveling in common law and I said to him
[01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:12.000]  do you see that I'm traveling in commerce and he said I don't know what you're saying, I don't know what you mean
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:18.000]  so he then began to call the local police and then
[01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  because I showed him my driving license, the registration for the vehicle which was up to date
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:27.000]  and my license insurance and registration
[01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  and he basically found out that the license was expired, it wasn't valid
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  and he then started calling the local cops and the tow truck company
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:47.000]  and I was in a side street where it didn't have any ordinance to say that you can't park after a certain time
[01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:51.000]  so I told him why are you doing that, I'm going to be just going around the corner
[01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:55.000]  800 yards away to my friend's house
[01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  and he said you can't move, you can't drive the vehicle
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:05.000]  and I had taken my keys out by the way, the minute I had stopped I had taken my keys out
[01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:12.000]  now I then had to, I wasn't thinking of, so I had to open the door to talk to him
[01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:17.000]  and he said please wind your window down and I ignored him for a few times
[01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:21.000]  and eventually I put the key back into the ignition, got the window down
[01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:24.000]  and then took it out again and talked him through the window
[01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:30.000]  and when I realized that he was actually calling the tow truck company
[01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:34.000]  and I said why are you doing that, why can't you just follow me to where I'm going
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:38.000]  he said you can't do that because you're driving without a license
[01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:43.000]  so I didn't want to pay whatever it was going to be
[01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:50.000]  and I didn't want to have the hassle of being deprived of something that technically wasn't mine
[01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  but actually that truck is mine
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:57.000]  so I said to him you have no right to stop me for the windshield
[01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:00.000]  that's why you could have written me a citation and I would have been happy with that
[01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:05.000]  but what you're doing now is completely over whatever I just said to him
[01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.000]  and I said I'm not going to drive, you can follow me if you want
[01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.000]  I'm going to go to my friend's house and I'm going to park the vehicle
[01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.000]  you can go there and do whatever you want with me
[01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:19.000]  he said sorry you can't do that so I turned my engine on and he stepped in front of the vehicle
[01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  and I basically started to pull away like very, very, very, very slowly
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:30.000]  I nudged him aside and slowly went off to where my friend was, friend's house was which was just around the corner
[01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  and I waited there for three hours and no one turned up
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.000]  and so I rang the police, they said well you have to ring the state troopers
[01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:41.000]  I rang the state troopers and then they knew who I was basically
[01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:46.000]  and they wanted me to come in to sign up for the citations
[01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:50.000]  they said you don't want to get arrested, we just want you to sign
[01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:55.000]  because the other thing that they did was the guy took my documents and never came back
[01:28:55.000 --> 01:29:03.000]  so he's got my expired driver license, he's got one of my insurance dockets and the registration for the vehicle
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:13.000]  and he never told me that I was arrested, he was basically waiting for the cavalry to show up
[01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:18.000]  and I wasn't having any of that so I basically went around the corner and passed
[01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:24.000]  now I left, when I rang the state troopers I said in the end
[01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  because I wasn't saying that I'll come in, I just said look
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  Okay, okay wait, we need to move along, did you get arrested?
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  Well no, he didn't arrest me and I don't know what
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:41.000]  Okay, let me suggest why he didn't arrest you
[01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  Okay
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:46.000]  You had an expired Canadian driver's license?
[01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  Yes
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:51.000]  Well you violated a Canadian law
[01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:52.000]  Okay
[01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:57.000]  He had no jurisdiction to enforce a Canadian law
[01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:59.000]  Okay
[01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:05.000]  There's another aspect of that too, look in the Illinois statutes and see what you can find about when
[01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:13.000]  they are allowed to tow a car
[01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:18.000]  you probably find that they are only allowed to tow it if it is an obstruction
[01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:38.000]  traffic
[01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:44.000]  If he is taking your car without it being an obstruction or otherwise public nuisance
[01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:47.000]  he was stealing your car, he was not towing your car
[01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:51.000]  That's right, that's what Wayne mentioned because I explained to him what had happened
[01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:22.000]  Instructed your vision
[01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:26.000]  Right, well the next day just quickly, the next day I had the windshield changed
[01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:30.000]  It's now brand new, so that's now out of the picture
[01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:35.000]  And that would probably get the citation dismissed
[01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:36.000]  Right
[01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:42.000]  So what's the condition, what's the situation now, do you have anything against you?
[01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:49.000]  Well I've been told by the duty policeman who knows about this that he, well from what I understand of him saying
[01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:52.000]  the citation is waiting for me to sign them
[01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:57.000]  Which kind of, from what I know it means that they're trying to trick me into coming in
[01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:01.000]  so they can arrest me, sign them on the duress and then they have a case
[01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:06.000]  Right now they don't have a case from my understanding of the stuff I've read
[01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:10.000]  Oh so you don't know if there's a citation against you or not
[01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.000]  No I don't
[01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.000]  Or an arrest warrant
[01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:21.000]  Well the officer may have a problem because if he tries to write a citation and get a warrant
[01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:25.000]  he's going to have to explain this to a judge
[01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:29.000]  and there's a good chance he's not going to do that
[01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:33.000]  He's going to say, you mean you let this guy drive away?
[01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:39.000]  The officer is going to look like a chump
[01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:53.000]  So are you living in Illinois?
[01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:55.000]  At the moment I am yes
[01:32:55.000 --> 01:33:02.000]  And how I've left it is that I've left a message saying that I'm going to get back to him with some legal documents
[01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:06.000]  So I've left a message for him to say that I'll be doing that
[01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:15.000]  Then you need to file a document with the receipt for the change of the windshield
[01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:16.000]  Yes
[01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:19.000]  Showing that the windshield has been replaced
[01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:20.000]  Yes
[01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.000]  And ask the officer to ask
[01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:27.000]  Well there's really no one to send it to
[01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:31.000]  Unless there's a charge filed against you
[01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:32.000]  Right
[01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:35.000]  You can go check the court record
[01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:36.000]  Okay
[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:39.000]  The municipal court and see if your name shows up
[01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  Right okay
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  Yeah just call in and check to see if anything has been filed against you
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.000]  an arrest warrant or anything like that
[01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  Generally they'll divulge that even over the phone in some cases
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.000]  Alright
[01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:55.000]  Well I'll let you guys know what happened
[01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:57.000]  Good, keep us informed
[01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:58.000]  Please do
[01:33:58.000 --> 01:33:59.000]  Yes
[01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:04.000]  And thank you very much for your service to us
[01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:07.000]  Okay and thank you for calling in
[01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:09.000]  You're welcome, thank you
[01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:12.000]  Bye
[01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:13.000]  Okay
[01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:14.000]  Okay, excellent
[01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:19.000]  Alright let's go to Dan Reel
[01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:20.000]  Dan who?
[01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:21.000]  The real deal
[01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:24.000]  Dan Reel in Connecticut
[01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.000]  That would be me right?
[01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:28.000]  Yes
[01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:34.000]  Excellent, I just wanted to comment on how good things have been for our type of talk radio
[01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:39.000]  I'm from the Evil Rival Radio Network of Resurrected Public
[01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:43.000]  We actually got Dave Merland on board recently
[01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:45.000]  Dave who?
[01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.000]  Merland right?
[01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:50.000]  I always pronounce his name wrong
[01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.000]  But yeah I just wanted to comment
[01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:57.000]  I mean we've had you know and I'm sure you have the same experience
[01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:05.000]  We've got more callers between the both of us more than we know what to do with
[01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:07.000]  Oh absolutely
[01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:11.000]  And I do want to say thank you callers for being so patient
[01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.000]  And we will take everyone's call tonight so just stay on the line
[01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:17.000]  We're going to go into overtime
[01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:22.000]  Eddie has agreed to stay with us so that we can take all your calls
[01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:23.000]  Let's rock on
[01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  Let's rock on and thank you very much callers for being so patient
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:31.000]  If you hear a little snoring in the background don't pay any attention to it
[01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:36.000]  It's a really good thing
[01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:39.000]  I think a lot of it probably had to do with the recent tea parties
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:43.000]  I don't know if you guys saw the pictures of those around the country
[01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  Yes and people are waking up
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  They're realizing that there are problems
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:53.000]  That we don't live in Camelot
[01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:56.000]  That the sky really is falling in
[01:35:56.000 --> 01:36:01.000]  And so we don't have too many people to sleep anymore
[01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.000]  Yeah Chicken Little knows what the hell he's talking about these days
[01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  Absolutely
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:10.000]  It would seem I had a caller like today on my show
[01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  Real Liberty and the Constitution on Restore the Public Radio
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:17.000]  And the first caller was like there aren't enough people awake
[01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.000]  And then the board just opened up on me
[01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:23.000]  And I just tried to explain to them
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  I'm like a lot of these people are just figuring out what's going on
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:29.000]  And they just need something to do
[01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:33.000]  Which is why I just wanted to call into this program and say
[01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:35.000]  Thank you for what you're doing
[01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  And I plugged you guys again because there aren't enough people for either one of us to take on a road I'm thinking
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:47.000]  We appreciate the plug
[01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:55.000]  And just for the record we allow people from evil rival networks
[01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  Yeah we are we're all in the same fight
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:07.000]  And the one thing that distresses me the most is that when people in legal reform
[01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:12.000]  Get into confrontations with one another
[01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:18.000]  We have enough enemies out there without allowing ourselves to become enemies to one another
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:20.000]  Amen to that
[01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:29.000]  And Dan Real is on an evil rival network and I hope it does extremely well
[01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  Because the more listeners he gets, the more listeners we're going to get
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  The more people we wake up, the more likely we are to leave a positive legacy for our children
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:47.000]  Exactly and I just want to segue into that comment
[01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:56.000]  I got an email about the Russia Limbaugh from the other evil rival radio and TV networks
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  That guy's running scared nowadays
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:02.000]  Oh interesting
[01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:07.000]  Yeah he was actually trying to say you know well this is a neoconservative thing and this that and the other thing
[01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  But we know what's going on
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:16.000]  We had people calling in to our network throughout the whole Tea Party rally thing
[01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:22.000]  A lot of people were saying it's nonpartisan but there were people from the Republican Party trying to say
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:27.000]  Oh well this is a Republican thing and we're going to save you and it wasn't taking
[01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  And in each city or each you know even small town
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:36.000]  I'll just give an example, Norwich, Connecticut, that's a small town
[01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:39.000]  And that's about 20 minutes south of where I live
[01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:44.000]  To get 500 people, that takes a lot
[01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  But there were over 1,000 there
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:50.000]  Hartford, Connecticut is the state capital, there were like 5,000
[01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:56.000]  And the pictures are online and believe it or not people actually brought pitchforks to the protest
[01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:01.000]  What? To pitch out the manure?
[01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  You could say that
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:09.000]  You could say that but it was great to see people with pitchforks and believe it or not of all things
[01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:14.000]  American flags and trifold hats and colonial outfits
[01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:19.000]  That's what I'm beginning to think that we were
[01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:22.000]  That all the time before this
[01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:25.000]  We have just been groomed
[01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:32.000]  To be here at this place at this time doing what we're doing right now
[01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  Yeah I think we can start calling him Rush Limburger
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:41.000]  Because his particular brand of truth has its own stench these days
[01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:46.000]  I just wanted to call in and say this is an amazing thing
[01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:51.000]  You know and I know what you were saying Randy about
[01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  Before there were just too many people asleep
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  And now there are just so many people waking up
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:02.000]  It's like I can't you know give everyone like something to do
[01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:05.000]  There are just too many people
[01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:09.000]  Well if we give them information
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:13.000]  They'll find things to do
[01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:17.000]  I had a guy call me from Montgomery, Texas
[01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:21.000]  And his son had got a DUI and he wanted me to help him with it
[01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:26.000]  And he said there is the officer that gave him the citation
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:35.000]  Someone has charged him with aggravated kidnapping and aggravated assault
[01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:39.000]  That sounded like something you would do
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:44.000]  I said yes it does but I don't know anything about that
[01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:47.000]  So I was elated
[01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:51.000]  Excellent
[01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  Yes this is why we're here
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  If we get other people to pick this up and run with it
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:04.000]  Then things will change
[01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.000]  The powers that be will have no option
[01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:11.000]  And it doesn't take a lot of us
[01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:13.000]  Just a few
[01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:20.000]  This was one thing I was trying to break through with the first caller I had on my program today
[01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  He was saying there aren't enough of us doing this
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:29.000]  And he was talking about the We the People Foundation who are doing good work by the way
[01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:31.000]  And he was saying they're the only ones out there
[01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:34.000]  And I know Michael Badnerix had the same complaint too
[01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  About all these different organizations saying we're the only ones
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:41.000]  And I keep trying to tell everybody
[01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:43.000]  You're not the only ones
[01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:48.000]  And there are a ton of people working in so many different directions
[01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.000]  It's really amazing to see
[01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:58.000]  And I almost wish I could just put my experience into somebody else's head
[01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:03.000]  Just to let them know what I'm seeing and let them know what you're seeing
[01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:07.000]  And that would basically reassure them and let them know
[01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:09.000]  Hey things are going to be all right
[01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:13.000]  We're going to make sure that the Constitution is followed
[01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:19.000]  That we actually have courts under the rule of law and everything is going to be fine
[01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.000]  Yes and there are indications
[01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:29.000]  Here in Texas the Texas legislature is putting forth a bill reaffirming the 10th Amendment
[01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:34.000]  Of 150 legislatures 70 of them endorsed the bill
[01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:40.000]  This is before it even gets into the legislature 70 of them co-authored it
[01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:42.000]  They want to have a job
[01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:44.000]  Well that's 70 of 150
[01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:49.000]  There's a good chance this is going to pass big time
[01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:53.000]  Well yeah and what I hope is that it's not just lip service
[01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:56.000]  For the sake of putting on a dog and pony show for the public
[01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:01.000]  I want to see them back it up and walk the walk
[01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:07.000]  I.e. stop taking money from the feds and stop doing what they say
[01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:16.000]  No real ID, no RFID and driver's licenses and all that kind of crap
[01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:21.000]  They need to walk the walk and not just put on a dog and pony show of a resolution
[01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:26.000]  So we'll see it's a good start but we'll see if they're going to actually back it up
[01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:29.000]  Precisely we need to stay after them
[01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:32.000]  But the fact that it is so popular
[01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  And these public officials see it as politically expedient
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:41.000]  To stand behind state rights
[01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:43.000]  That's a good sign
[01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:48.000]  That tells me that the public is exerting pressure on all these public officials
[01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.000]  Okay listen we're going to break right now
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:54.000]  Dan did you have anything else for us?
[01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.000]  Yeah I could finish up on the other side
[01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:00.000]  Okay yeah and let's try to be considerate of the other callers
[01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:03.000]  Because we do have quite a lot of callers on the line
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[01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.000]  We're back
[01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:18.000]  The rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens
[01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:20.000]  We're here with Eddie Craig
[01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.000]  We're speaking with Dan Reel
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:24.000]  The Reel Deal from Connecticut
[01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:25.000]  We've got Scott from Connecticut
[01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:26.000]  We've got Ivy from New Hampshire
[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:27.000]  George from Texas
[01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.000]  Christopher from Illinois
[01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:32.000]  George from Texas
[01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:34.000]  Okay maybe it's a different George
[01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:36.000]  Dan okay we've got a lot of people on the line
[01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:40.000]  So Dan you had another comment for us
[01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:43.000]  Wait Dan who?
[01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:46.000]  Dan from the Evil Rival Radio Network
[01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:49.000]  Oh okay what was the name of that network?
[01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:51.000]  Restore the Republic Radio
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:52.000]  Good
[01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:55.000]  It's the one with Dave Myerlund on it
[01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.000]  Oh Myerlund yes
[01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:05.000]  Yeah he does a show called No Confidence that goes between 11am to 1pm EST
[01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:09.000]  But he does a lot of the same things that you guys do
[01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:14.000]  In any case I just wanted to say it's a really great time we're in
[01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:17.000]  There are a lot of people who are just waking up
[01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  And there are just too many people for me to help out
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:24.000]  For you guys to help out
[01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:29.000]  So we need other people to donate to Rule of Law Radio if you can
[01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.000]  All these radio networks they need to host
[01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.000]  They need call screeners
[01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:37.000]  They need people to help out with the news
[01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  So I'm just going to wrap it up with
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:43.000]  It's really going forward and this is an amazing time
[01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  I've never seen this ever
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  And this is exciting
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:53.000]  Thank you this is exactly what I've been saying
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:56.000]  Right time right place
[01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:59.000]  When things really get bad
[01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:04.000]  Always something comes up to level things out
[01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  And this move towards the 10th Amendment
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:14.000]  People waking up and beginning to exert pressure in the other direction
[01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:16.000]  We're going to get things done
[01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  Thank you Dan
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:21.000]  Yeah I've been sleeping really good at night
[01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:25.000]  I had to take a week off from my show just to get things straightened out
[01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:29.000]  But once I heard about the tea parties and all that stuff going on
[01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  It really helped
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:35.000]  And I'm sure it helped you guys out and just keep going
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:38.000]  Stay energetic and thank you for the work you're doing
[01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:41.000]  Thank you so much Dan
[01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:45.000]  Okay we're going to go now to Jeff in Michigan
[01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:48.000]  And we only have 10 minutes left but callers please stay on the line
[01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:51.000]  Because we are going to go into overtime
[01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:54.000]  So hang tight
[01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:57.000]  I wanted to go to Eddie for a minute
[01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:00.000]  There was something he wanted to address
[01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:03.000]  I definitely want to air it out
[01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  About municipal courts
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:10.000]  What I want to do callers before we go to the next question is
[01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:13.000]  I want to give you one more crowbar to use in your case
[01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  Randy and I have talked about this before on the air
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:20.000]  Where I brought up the possible argument that a city attorney
[01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:24.000]  May not prosecute in a municipal court case
[01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:28.000]  Where it is a state statute that has been violated
[01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  Or at least what they're alleging that has been violated
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  And it goes to who is actually an attorney for the state
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:37.000]  If we look and code a criminal procedure
[01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:40.000]  Article 2.07 sub item D
[01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:43.000]  In this article attorney for the state means a county attorney
[01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  A district attorney or a criminal district attorney
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:49.000]  Now I've got another attorney general letter here
[01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:52.000]  That Gary Lockey sent me this evening before we got started
[01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:55.000]  It is attorney general letter opinion number
[01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:58.000]  GA-0067
[01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:01.000]  And it states very specifically
[01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:04.000]  In no way round about terms
[01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:07.000]  That they cannot
[01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  Bring you into court
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:13.000]  The Texas rules of evidence do not authorize
[01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:16.000]  A municipal or justice court to call
[01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:19.000]  And examine witnesses when a state attorney
[01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:22.000]  Is not present
[01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:25.000]  Basically speaking if they're trying to prosecute you
[01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:28.000]  With a city attorney
[01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:31.000]  That's against the rules big time
[01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:34.000]  Oh wonderful
[01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:37.000]  Because that's where the most
[01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:40.000]  Outrageous scoundrels seem to exist
[01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:43.000]  The ones that are hired and not elected
[01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:46.000]  There you go
[01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  And it goes a little further in better detail in this letter
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  To the contrary Texas is one of the few states
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.000]  That has not adopted a rule comparable to federal rule
[01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:58.000]  Of evidence 614 which permits a federal court
[01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:01.000]  To call and examine witnesses on its own motion
[01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:04.000]  Nor does the common law provide support for a municipal
[01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:07.000]  Or justice court's authority to call and examine
[01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:10.000]  Witnesses when a state attorney is not present
[01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:13.000]  At trial
[01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:16.000]  We have no gray area there folks that's a crowbar
[01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:19.000]  That you can put your case overturned with
[01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:22.000]  And beat the prosecuting attorney to death with
[01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:25.000]  In fraud and malicious prosecution
[01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:28.000]  Oh and bar grievance
[01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:31.000]  Yep because they're deemed to know the law
[01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:34.000]  You could go down and count all the people
[01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:37.000]  On the docket
[01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:40.000]  Charged with a state offense
[01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:43.000]  And follow bar grievance on each one of them
[01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:46.000]  Yep malicious prosecution as well
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:49.000]  He's history
[01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  Okay let's move on to callers
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:55.000]  We're going to address this in greater detail in another show
[01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:58.000]  Okay callers we are going to go into overtime tonight
[01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:01.000]  So if you'd like to call in
[01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:04.000]  We're going to continue so feel free
[01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:07.000]  512-646-1984
[01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.000]  We're going to go to Jeff in Michigan
[01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.000]  Hey Jeff thanks for calling in
[01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:16.000]  Deborah and Eddie
[01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:19.000]  Hi this is Jeff I just want to tell you
[01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  I really appreciated the show tonight
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:25.000]  It's a really good show I cannot wait to get the archive downloaded
[01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:28.000]  So Deborah as soon as possible please I want to get this and
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:31.000]  Re-listen to it I've got to burst all this out
[01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:34.000]  Because I'm on the air on Restore the Republic
[01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.000]  Doing my show in five minutes
[01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:40.000]  It's called Waking Zombies on Restore the Republic
[01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:43.000]  Radio in five minutes
[01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:46.000]  So what I wanted to get into I'm not going to
[01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:49.000]  Get into my summons issues
[01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:52.000]  That I'm dealing with right now but I wanted to
[01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:55.000]  I want to know how I can get a hold of Eddie and get the information
[01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:58.000]  That you were talking about earlier with having this ready
[01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:01.000]  To argue with a cop
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:04.000]  Or whatever all this information so I'd like to get contact
[01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:07.000]  Information with you and ask you guys if you're familiar
[01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:10.000]  With some of the people out there that have had a lot of success
[01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:13.000]  With this commerce
[01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.000]  Technology the understanding and decoding
[01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:19.000]  And using this commerce system of law
[01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:22.000]  That we're dealing with such as Robert
[01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:25.000]  Arthur Menard Winston Shroud
[01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:28.000]  And Mary Croft who I've been studying recently and learning a lot about
[01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.000]  I can tell you
[01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:34.000]  From my point of view
[01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:37.000]  I'm just starting to get into the commercial
[01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:40.000]  Aspect of law and I know
[01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:43.000]  For a fact that is very valid
[01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:46.000]  You may want to listen to
[01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:49.000]  And call into Agenda 21 talk
[01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:52.000]  On Tuesday nights from 8 to 10
[01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:55.000]  And also Friday nights from 6 to 8 and check out
[01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.000]  Their archives because Greg Chapman and
[01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  Don Terry are much more familiar
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  With the commercial aspect of law
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  We're just starting to get into it but yes I'm familiar
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:10.000]  With Winston Shroud and those individuals
[01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:13.000]  That you mentioned. Yeah I've read Mary Croft
[01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:16.000]  But I haven't read the others. Robert Arthur Menard
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:19.000]  Is really got some great movies
[01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:22.000]  On thinkfree.ca
[01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.000]  As his website and he's in hijacking humanity
[01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:28.000]  And does this lecture called bursting bubbles of government deception
[01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:31.000]  And the name of the game is commerce
[01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:34.000]  And the trick is the contract
[01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:37.000]  Who is under contract. Yes
[01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:40.000]  Okay here's a problem I've been having
[01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:43.000]  I'm going to a three day seminar
[01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:46.000]  This weekend on this issue
[01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.000]  I'm looking over the documentation
[01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:52.000]  What I am getting is a lot of
[01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:55.000]  Legal conclusion and a legal
[01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:58.000]  Assertions of legal fact
[01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  What I am not getting is underlying law
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:04.000]  Supporting those facts
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:07.000]  I have documents where they assert
[01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.000]  That the other
[01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:13.000]  Person has a duty
[01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.000]  But they do not show how the duty accrues
[01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  So I can't use this
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:22.000]  Unless I can support it
[01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:25.000]  With law
[01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:28.000]  And that's my frustration with the commercial process
[01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:31.000]  People are saying well you have to do this
[01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  And you can do that and you can do this
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:37.000]  Well that's not good enough
[01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:40.000]  You can't say it in your words you have to be able to say it
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:43.000]  In the words of the statute or the case law
[01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:46.000]  And I'm not getting it
[01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:49.000]  In itself or the nature of commercial law
[01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:52.000]  I think it's just that individuals
[01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:55.000]  That you have had dealings with have not been able to
[01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:58.000]  Prove up
[01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:01.000]  What you're requiring
[01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:04.000]  Exactly and that's not the fault of the system
[01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:07.000]  Oh no I'm not saying that I see the value in it
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:10.000]  But we have to be very careful
[01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:13.000]  In what we do
[01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:16.000]  In this arena
[01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  So that we're sure we're covered by law
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:22.000]  Whichever law it is
[01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:25.000]  We can't go in with a legal conclusion
[01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:28.000]  That's not based on sound law
[01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:31.000]  And my rule is
[01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:34.000]  When it comes to an assertion of law
[01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:37.000]  I can't say it in my words
[01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:40.000]  I have to say it in the words of the court
[01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:43.000]  Then I have something with
[01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:46.000]  I really wish I had more time to talk to you guys about this
[01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:49.000]  I'm going to have to call back another time and get into it more deep
[01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:52.000]  So I have to go but I suggest you
[01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:55.000]  Look into that book by Mary Croft that Eddie said he read
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:58.000]  I've got it
[01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:01.000]  House joint rule 192 and it's a big process
[01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:04.000]  But I'm going to listen to the archives
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:07.000]  And I'm going to have to let you go right now
[01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:10.000]  Yeah send me an email Jeff so maybe we can schedule a show
[01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:13.000]  And we can beat this around
[01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:16.000]  Great thanks a lot guys see ya
[01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:19.000]  Thank you
[01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:22.000]  Okay we're about at the top of the hour
[01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:25.000]  We've got a few more callers in the line
[01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:28.000]  So instead of taking a call
[01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.000]  And getting you know 10% into it
[01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:34.000]  Let's go to Ivy
[01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:37.000]  Let's talk about Sam Donaldson
[01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:40.000]  Yes absolutely we've got George
[01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:43.000]  And we've got Ivy
[01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:46.000]  And we're actually pretty much to the end of the show right now
[01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:49.000]  And so I wanted to just segue here
[01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:52.000]  Instead of taking a call for 10 seconds
[01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:55.000]  So that we could start fresh after the top of the hour
[01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:58.000]  That would be fine
[01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:01.000]  Alright and I wanted to get you know just a little more
[01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:04.000]  Eddie
[01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:07.000]  On how
[01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:10.000]  He got into all of this
[01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:13.000]  Regarding the traffic code
[01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:16.000]  And Eddie maybe you could
[01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  You could get into that on the other side
[01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:22.000]  Okay we are going to break but we are going to continue
[01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:25.000]  To stream and we're going to continue to take your calls
[01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:28.000]  On the other side of the hour we'll be right back
[01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  If you want to live, live
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:34.000]  I bet you treat me good
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:38.000]  I'm like a walking razor
[01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.000]  Don't you watch my size
[01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  I'm dangerous
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:44.000]  Said I'm dangerous
[01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:46.000]  I'm like a walking razor
[01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:48.000]  Don't you watch my size
[01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:51.000]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:54.000]  If you are a bully
[01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:57.000]  Treat me good
[01:58:57.000 --> 01:59:00.000]  If you are a bully
[01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:03.000]  I beg you treat me good
[01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:06.000]  I'm like a stepping razor
[01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:09.000]  Don't you watch my size
[01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:12.000]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:15.000]  I'm like a stepping razor
[01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:18.000]  Don't you watch my size
[01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:21.000]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:24.000]  If you are a chucky
[01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:27.000]  Know about a chucky from me
[01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:31.000]  If you are a chucky, a chucky
[01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:34.000]  Know about a chucky from me
[01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:38.000]  I'm like a stepping razor
[01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:40.000]  Don't you watch my size
[01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:43.000]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:46.000]  I'm like a stepping razor
[01:59:46.000 --> 01:59:48.000]  Don't you watch my size
[01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:51.000]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:54.000]  I'm like a stepping razor
[01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:56.000]  Leave that space
[01:59:57.000 --> 02:00:01.000]  If you treat me good