ROL_2009-03-20_16k_Hr3-4.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:12.680]  In Peru, Congresswoman Keiko Fujimori, daughter of the former president Alberto Fujimori, is
[00:12.680 --> 00:15.820]  a front-runner in some presidential polls.
[00:15.820 --> 00:21.940]  Alberto Fujimori is on trial accused of human rights abuses that include massacres that
[00:21.940 --> 00:25.140]  left 25 people dead in the 1990s.
[00:25.140 --> 00:29.920]  His daughter says she would pardon him if elected.
[00:29.920 --> 00:34.920]  One result of the economic downturn is more troops are remaining in the service.
[00:34.920 --> 00:39.760]  The army hit 152 percent of its re-enlistment goal this year.
[00:39.760 --> 00:46.580]  Meanwhile, 11.2 percent of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans are jobless.
[00:46.580 --> 00:51.720]  Leading climate scientist James Hansen says protest and direct action could be the only
[00:51.720 --> 00:57.760]  way to tackle soaring carbon emissions, noting corporate lobbying has undermined democratic
[00:57.760 --> 01:05.880]  attempts to curb carbon pollution.
[01:05.880 --> 01:10.680]  New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo says he plans to release the names of AIG bonus
[01:10.680 --> 01:12.160]  recipients.
[01:12.160 --> 01:17.040]  Cuomo is investigating the payouts, as well as those made by Merrill Lynch and other Wall
[01:17.040 --> 01:18.040]  Street firms.
[01:18.040 --> 01:23.600]  Cuomo's announcement followed a court ruling the Bank of America, which owns Merrill, must
[01:23.600 --> 01:26.200]  turn over the names of the Merrill recipients.
[01:26.200 --> 01:31.760]  The ruling suggests Cuomo will also get the AIG names, which were subpoenaed earlier this
[01:31.760 --> 01:32.760]  week.
[01:32.760 --> 01:38.400]  Wednesday, AIG's CEO Edward Liddy declined to assure Congress he would cooperate with
[01:38.400 --> 01:45.160]  Cuomo's probe, citing concern for the physical safety of employees who received bonuses.
[01:45.160 --> 01:54.080]  In October 2008, under Liddy's watch, days after AIG received an emergency $85 billion
[01:54.080 --> 02:01.080]  from the government, 70 executives spent a week at a California resort, spending $200,000
[02:01.080 --> 02:12.480]  on rooms, $150,000 on meals, and $23,000 on the spa.
[02:12.480 --> 02:17.440]  Professor Michael Hudson writes in news blog Counterpunch, the orchestrated outrage over
[02:17.440 --> 02:24.440]  the $165 million AIG bonuses is a diversion from the thousand times greater theft from
[02:24.440 --> 02:29.360]  taxpayers, namely AIG's $200 billion bailout.
[02:29.360 --> 02:34.400]  Americans are angry AIG executives are paying themselves millions of dollars in bonuses
[02:34.400 --> 02:38.360]  after having cost the taxpayers exorbitant sums of money.
[02:38.360 --> 02:43.760]  Defending the bonuses, White House economist Larry Summers invoked the sanctity of contracts.
[02:43.760 --> 02:49.800]  However, labor unions had to agree to give backs so the auto companies could obtain federal
[02:49.800 --> 02:50.800]  help.
[02:50.800 --> 02:56.520]  The Washington Post reports the Obama administration has set its sights on downsizing Social Security
[02:56.520 --> 03:02.240]  and Medicare.
[03:02.240 --> 03:07.160]  Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo is seeking federal funding to implement a program for
[03:07.160 --> 03:10.480]  training police to withdraw blood from DWI suspects.
[03:10.480 --> 03:15.520]  Do you want our police to be able to stick a needle in your arm and take your blood on
[03:15.520 --> 03:19.360]  the side of the road with no search warrant or court order?
[03:19.360 --> 03:25.640]  This program is patently illegal, reckless, unconstitutional, and life threatening.
[03:25.640 --> 03:31.120]  Join us March 30th at 6 p.m. at Austin City Hall in the city council chambers for the
[03:31.120 --> 03:36.360]  public forum on police blood withdrawals, sponsored by Texans for Accountable Government
[03:36.360 --> 03:39.040]  and Austin Campaign for Liberty.
[03:39.040 --> 03:44.560]  Others include Police Chief Art Acevedo, City Council Member Mike Martinez, Tags Steering
[03:44.560 --> 03:50.520]  Committee Rep John Bush, ACLU Central Texas Chapter President Debbie Russell, and MAD
[03:50.520 --> 03:52.200]  Rep Karen Housewright.
[03:52.200 --> 03:58.520]  Be there March 30th at 6 p.m. at Austin City Hall and make your voice be heard on this
[03:58.520 --> 04:00.480]  very serious issue.
[04:00.480 --> 04:05.200]  Hello listeners, have you ever wondered if UFOs are real?
[04:05.200 --> 04:08.280]  Is there really a flying saucer cover up by governments around the world?
[04:08.280 --> 04:10.840]  How about those footprints they found on planet Mars?
[04:10.840 --> 04:12.200]  Are they really authentic?
[04:12.200 --> 04:16.760]  Well, Brave New Books is proud to announce that author and researcher Jim Mars will be
[04:16.760 --> 04:21.320]  at the bookstore to explain the answers to these questions and many others on Saturday,
[04:21.320 --> 04:23.360]  March 21st at 7 p.m.
[04:23.360 --> 04:27.320]  Jim will be giving an in-depth lecture on the entire UFO phenomenon based on his best
[04:27.320 --> 04:31.600]  selling book, Alien Agenda, Investigating the Extraterrestrial Presence Among Us.
[04:31.600 --> 04:35.640]  Alien Agenda is recognized as the number one book on UFOs and has been translated into
[04:35.640 --> 04:39.320]  15 different languages, so please be sure to purchase a copy for the book signing that
[04:39.320 --> 04:40.320]  will follow the lecture.
[04:40.320 --> 04:45.440]  Once again, Jim Mars will begin his lecture at 7 p.m. on Saturday, March 21st at Brave
[04:45.440 --> 04:46.440]  New Books.
[04:46.440 --> 04:50.520]  The bookstore is located at 1904 Guadalupe Street at the corner of MLK and Guadalupe.
[04:50.520 --> 04:52.600]  This is sure to be a popular event, so please come early.
[04:52.600 --> 04:58.520]  If you have any questions, please call the bookstore at 512-480-2503 and be sure to visit
[04:58.520 --> 05:02.200]  bravenewbookstore.com for a list of exciting events coming soon.
[05:02.200 --> 05:03.200]  Thank you.
[05:03.200 --> 05:11.200]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech
[05:11.200 --> 05:34.200]  talk radio at its best.
[05:34.200 --> 05:52.680]  When are you going to stop abusing the power?
[05:52.680 --> 05:59.320]  Well, the answer is when we make them, okay?
[05:59.320 --> 06:00.840]  That's the only way.
[06:00.840 --> 06:03.880]  And we're speaking with Bill in Wisconsin right now, okay Bill, go ahead.
[06:03.880 --> 06:06.320]  You were about to tell us a story when we went to break.
[06:06.320 --> 06:10.280]  Okay, I'll make this short because I know there's some other callers in there.
[06:10.280 --> 06:12.640]  Yeah, we're starting to stack up with some callers now.
[06:12.640 --> 06:18.800]  Yeah, our Ron Paul group had invited a deputy sheriff, but we wanted to talk to him because
[06:18.800 --> 06:21.560]  he has the possibilities of wanting to run for sheriff.
[06:21.560 --> 06:24.160]  We wanted to see what his attitudes were.
[06:24.160 --> 06:31.360]  But in the process of talking with him, he told us a little story about they were forming
[06:31.360 --> 06:36.840]  a, I don't want to say like an emergency squad or attack squad of some type, and he was on
[06:36.840 --> 06:37.840]  it.
[06:37.840 --> 06:42.680]  And he said when they interviewed the potential candidates to be on there, one of the questions
[06:42.680 --> 06:46.920]  they asked him, they said, if you were ordered to confiscate the weapons from the citizens,
[06:46.920 --> 06:48.320]  would you do it?
[06:48.320 --> 06:54.600]  And anybody who answered yes was not considered.
[06:54.600 --> 06:55.600]  That's interesting.
[06:55.600 --> 06:57.080]  They're on our side.
[06:57.080 --> 07:02.160]  Yeah, there's more of them on our side than we realize, really.
[07:02.160 --> 07:06.040]  And that's what they were saying on the show and on the, okay, I'll say it on the power
[07:06.040 --> 07:07.040]  hour this morning.
[07:07.040 --> 07:08.040]  Okay.
[07:08.040 --> 07:16.320]  They had an officer who taught SWAT teams, which surprised me, and he was talking about
[07:16.320 --> 07:22.440]  how the seasoned officers really don't like what they see coming.
[07:22.440 --> 07:27.000]  And they're trying to work with the newer officers to warn them about what's coming,
[07:27.000 --> 07:28.960]  and about exactly these things.
[07:28.960 --> 07:35.280]  He addressed exactly this, about taking people's weapons, and about following orders they knew
[07:35.280 --> 07:36.280]  were illegal.
[07:36.280 --> 07:39.840]  Well, Randy, Dave and Joyce were talking about us on their show, you know.
[07:39.840 --> 07:41.000]  Oh, they were?
[07:41.000 --> 07:47.640]  Yeah, because there was a caller, well, no, they had a guest that had some legal issues.
[07:47.640 --> 07:52.880]  And Lisa Wilson sent me some email about it.
[07:52.880 --> 07:59.000]  And some callers called in to tell the guest about us and our show.
[07:59.000 --> 08:03.680]  And so they were, Dave and Joyce and the callers and the guests were discussing us and your
[08:03.680 --> 08:05.760]  remedies and the show on their show.
[08:05.760 --> 08:09.280]  So maybe we should try to get on their show as a guest or something.
[08:09.280 --> 08:12.160]  Yeah, that would be interesting.
[08:12.160 --> 08:18.720]  That show, I was really pleased with it, because it kind of confirmed what I was feeling.
[08:18.720 --> 08:22.160]  You know, I talked about getting arrested a while back.
[08:22.160 --> 08:29.320]  What I didn't talk about is there was one officer who acted improperly.
[08:29.320 --> 08:36.820]  At the time, there were about 10 or 15 there, and only one acted out.
[08:36.820 --> 08:39.520]  And I had really got in these guys' faces.
[08:39.520 --> 08:46.200]  I mean, I wasn't belligerent or I wasn't aggressive, but I really stood on them.
[08:46.200 --> 08:52.080]  And a huge black guy, he walked in and something, you know, I looked at this guy and I says
[08:52.080 --> 08:57.200]  to myself, self, that is a proud man, and he was.
[08:57.200 --> 08:59.200]  And I told him, beat it.
[08:59.200 --> 09:00.600]  Well, I need to talk to you.
[09:00.600 --> 09:03.880]  No, you need to get lost and scram.
[09:03.880 --> 09:06.600]  He never once lost his cool.
[09:06.600 --> 09:09.160]  I told him, I don't want to talk to you.
[09:09.160 --> 09:10.240]  He said something else.
[09:10.240 --> 09:14.960]  What part of I do not want to talk to you do you not understand?
[09:14.960 --> 09:21.920]  He stood up straight, took one step back, looked down at me and said, Mr. Kelter, you
[09:21.920 --> 09:26.440]  don't have to talk if you don't want to, but I can talk all I want.
[09:26.440 --> 09:27.440]  That's right.
[09:27.440 --> 09:31.200]  As Pat, my singer, loves to say, do you pay rent for your mouth?
[09:31.200 --> 09:32.200]  No.
[09:32.200 --> 09:34.200]  He can say whatever he wants.
[09:34.200 --> 09:35.880]  That's hilarious.
[09:35.880 --> 09:41.600]  The officer gathered up his professionalism and he understood, he realized that I knew
[09:41.600 --> 09:47.200]  exactly where I stood and he didn't do anything stupid.
[09:47.200 --> 09:48.200]  You can talk.
[09:48.200 --> 09:50.240]  You don't have to talk to you if you don't want to, but I can talk all I want.
[09:50.240 --> 09:51.240]  That's right.
[09:51.240 --> 09:55.120]  I said, OK, you talk, I ignore and went back to writing.
[09:55.120 --> 09:56.120]  It's funny.
[09:56.120 --> 09:58.640]  And he never lost his cool.
[09:58.640 --> 10:04.120]  And then his sergeant comes by, acts like a moron and clearly this was the guy that
[10:04.120 --> 10:05.960]  took me to jail.
[10:05.960 --> 10:07.960]  He was mortified.
[10:07.960 --> 10:11.960]  Oh, the first guy that you were talking to?
[10:11.960 --> 10:12.960]  The guy that said...
[10:12.960 --> 10:13.960]  The big black guy.
[10:13.960 --> 10:14.960]  Yeah.
[10:14.960 --> 10:15.960]  Yeah.
[10:15.960 --> 10:16.960]  He was mortified.
[10:16.960 --> 10:20.360]  I did the same thing to his sergeant I did to him.
[10:20.360 --> 10:22.880]  He conducted himself the way he should.
[10:22.880 --> 10:24.880]  His sergeant acted like an idiot.
[10:24.880 --> 10:29.560]  And this was the officer that stepped between me and the sergeant to get the sergeant off
[10:29.560 --> 10:30.560]  me.
[10:30.560 --> 10:31.560]  Wow.
[10:31.560 --> 10:32.560]  All of his officers were embarrassed.
[10:32.560 --> 10:33.560]  Wow.
[10:33.560 --> 10:35.400]  Because they were good officers.
[10:35.400 --> 10:36.600]  These are Capitol Police.
[10:36.600 --> 10:39.560]  These are the best of the best.
[10:39.560 --> 10:43.920]  And then one of their supervisors does something incredibly stupid.
[10:43.920 --> 10:44.920]  He embarrassed them all.
[10:44.920 --> 10:48.720]  And I was as pleased to see that as anything.
[10:48.720 --> 10:54.040]  When they cuffed me and turned me around, there was not one officer there that would
[10:54.040 --> 10:55.440]  look me in the eye.
[10:55.440 --> 10:57.200]  They were all so ashamed.
[10:57.200 --> 10:59.600]  Yeah, they were mortified.
[10:59.600 --> 11:01.600]  They don't like this either.
[11:01.600 --> 11:03.840]  We have more allies than we realize.
[11:03.840 --> 11:05.200]  Yeah.
[11:05.200 --> 11:14.320]  What we have to do is not let the government focus our attention on the wrong place.
[11:14.320 --> 11:18.200]  We not let the government get us fighting each other.
[11:18.200 --> 11:26.560]  Well, yeah, and I think that the government does instigate situations to try to enrage
[11:26.560 --> 11:33.760]  people so that to make people overreact so that they can have an excuse to clamp down.
[11:33.760 --> 11:34.760]  Yeah.
[11:34.760 --> 11:37.680]  And clearly these policemen were taught how to do that.
[11:37.680 --> 11:38.680]  Right.
[11:38.680 --> 11:39.980]  It didn't work.
[11:39.980 --> 11:45.000]  And that's what was frustrating them because none of their tactics worked.
[11:45.000 --> 11:48.800]  And the sergeant came by and he's probably the one that taught them these tactics and
[11:48.800 --> 11:52.640]  he tried them on me and they didn't work on it for him either.
[11:52.640 --> 11:57.320]  But he was embarrassed in front of all of these troops and I really think this guy was
[11:57.320 --> 12:04.120]  on either coke or some uptake inhibitor that caused him to have no impulse control.
[12:04.120 --> 12:06.560]  He was clearly out of control.
[12:06.560 --> 12:11.520]  But the main thing was is the other officers were thoroughly embarrassed and mortified
[12:11.520 --> 12:12.520]  at this.
[12:12.520 --> 12:14.280]  I took that as a great sign.
[12:14.280 --> 12:16.280]  Anyway, okay, we didn't move.
[12:16.280 --> 12:17.280]  Yeah.
[12:17.280 --> 12:18.280]  And do you have anything else for us, Bill?
[12:18.280 --> 12:19.280]  No, no, that was fine.
[12:19.280 --> 12:25.080]  Thanks for the validation there and as you always say, I think these guys are caught
[12:25.080 --> 12:28.560]  in the matrix and we're going to try helping them get out of it.
[12:28.560 --> 12:29.560]  Wonderful.
[12:29.560 --> 12:30.560]  Yeah.
[12:30.560 --> 12:31.560]  Even whether they like it or not.
[12:31.560 --> 12:32.560]  Right.
[12:32.560 --> 12:33.560]  Yeah.
[12:33.560 --> 12:35.560]  Sometimes the best medicine is a bit bitter.
[12:35.560 --> 12:36.560]  Right.
[12:36.560 --> 12:40.040]  And that's why I keep saying, I'm not after these guys' careers.
[12:40.040 --> 12:42.760]  I just want to sting them good.
[12:42.760 --> 12:45.440]  It's just medicine.
[12:45.440 --> 12:55.240]  But really what we're after is to change the system as a whole and stop the policies that
[12:55.240 --> 13:03.600]  are illegal and I still want to get to the heart of the funding for these training campuses,
[13:03.600 --> 13:13.400]  these training programs that train these people to break the law and get it stopped.
[13:13.400 --> 13:14.400]  Point this out.
[13:14.400 --> 13:21.320]  It's like the legislature has control of the purse strings of the appropriations, but then
[13:21.320 --> 13:24.320]  they just let it go with no oversight.
[13:24.320 --> 13:31.280]  It's like Congress needs to have, they need to start exercising a little bit more control
[13:31.280 --> 13:38.600]  over the curriculums of these training programs because Congress is appropriating money to
[13:38.600 --> 13:44.560]  train people, to train these officers to break the laws that they themselves passed.
[13:44.560 --> 13:50.720]  They're the ones passing the law and then they fund the training programs to break the
[13:50.720 --> 13:51.720]  same law.
[13:51.720 --> 13:56.960]  And honestly, I really don't think that's the intention of our legislators.
[13:56.960 --> 14:04.080]  I think that they don't realize how serious the problem is and once we really start getting
[14:04.080 --> 14:10.280]  this ball rolling with all the litigation and suing the counties like Williamson County
[14:10.280 --> 14:15.560]  and getting all these people filing all these lawsuits and filing all these charges, then
[14:15.560 --> 14:27.120]  we can take all of that and go into the legislature and plop down, you know, 100 boxes of paperwork
[14:27.120 --> 14:30.880]  and say, this is why this is happening.
[14:30.880 --> 14:36.000]  There's a problem, you guys need to do something about it, okay, because usually Randy and
[14:36.000 --> 14:40.920]  I are not into like trying to petition the legislature and stuff, but we have to build
[14:40.920 --> 14:48.880]  up enough momentum so that we can have a force to really make these legislators do something
[14:48.880 --> 14:51.440]  about this because these training programs have got to go, Randy.
[14:51.440 --> 14:56.920]  The reason this is all happening is because of these campuses, these training programs.
[14:56.920 --> 15:00.480]  Appropriations are different than passing new law.
[15:00.480 --> 15:08.480]  I hate the idea of having to pass new law, but bringing the problem with appropriations
[15:08.480 --> 15:13.760]  to the legislature is something that's a lot easier to accomplish.
[15:13.760 --> 15:19.840]  Well, see, when we do this, when we finally do this, that's when I'm going to come in
[15:19.840 --> 15:27.000]  and ask for some new legislation while we're asking for new legislation to deal with the
[15:27.000 --> 15:33.360]  grand juries here because I want to see the grand juries have a budget of their own.
[15:33.360 --> 15:40.840]  I want them to be able to hire their own, have their own counsel that's independent
[15:40.840 --> 15:41.840]  of the prosecutor.
[15:41.840 --> 15:46.640]  They have their own counsel, their own attorneys that advise them.
[15:46.640 --> 15:54.040]  I want them to be able to commission forensic lab analysis, hire private detectives, do
[15:54.040 --> 15:56.720]  investigations, okay?
[15:56.720 --> 16:04.200]  I want them to have every tool and funding at their disposal for investigation that the
[16:04.200 --> 16:07.400]  prosecutor has, okay?
[16:07.400 --> 16:08.520]  That's what I want to see.
[16:08.520 --> 16:12.040]  I want to see the grand jury have that much power, all right?
[16:12.040 --> 16:16.360]  When we go in and ask for legislation to stop these other things, that's when I'm going
[16:16.360 --> 16:17.360]  to bring that in.
[16:17.360 --> 16:19.440]  Yes, that would be good legislation.
[16:19.440 --> 16:20.440]  Absolutely.
[16:20.440 --> 16:21.440]  Okay, we need to move on.
[16:21.440 --> 16:22.440]  Okay, we're going to move on.
[16:22.440 --> 16:23.440]  Stack them up.
[16:23.440 --> 16:24.440]  We're stacking them up.
[16:24.440 --> 16:25.440]  That's okay.
[16:25.440 --> 16:26.440]  We've got two more hours.
[16:26.440 --> 16:27.440]  Thank you, Bill.
[16:27.440 --> 16:28.440]  Thank you so much for calling.
[16:28.440 --> 16:29.440]  Okay.
[16:29.440 --> 16:35.640]  All right, we're going to break now, and then we're going to go to Dan in Connecticut.
[16:35.640 --> 16:40.080]  Then we've got Gage, Marcus, and Russell.
[16:40.080 --> 16:41.080]  We'll be right back.
[16:41.080 --> 16:42.080]  Is Dan for real?
[16:42.080 --> 16:43.080]  It's Dan.
[16:43.080 --> 16:44.080]  Dan, are you for real?
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[18:23.440 --> 18:33.040]  Dan, are you for real?
[18:33.040 --> 18:34.040]  I hope so.
[18:34.040 --> 18:35.040]  We're just kidding.
[18:35.040 --> 18:36.040]  How's it going?
[18:36.040 --> 18:37.040]  I'm pretty good.
[18:37.040 --> 18:44.440]  I was actually going to call in on the MIAC actually complaint.
[18:44.440 --> 18:51.640]  I'm thinking it's going to involve a series of complaints, but I did want to let you know
[18:51.640 --> 18:57.520]  about an interaction with a grand jury that I actually had up in Connecticut recently before
[18:57.520 --> 18:58.520]  I went into that.
[18:58.520 --> 18:59.520]  All right.
[18:59.520 --> 19:00.520]  Let's hear about it.
[19:00.520 --> 19:03.160]  Well, basically, I emailed Randy.
[19:03.160 --> 19:06.080]  I know your address for whatever reason, couldn't reach it.
[19:06.080 --> 19:07.480]  You probably know about it.
[19:07.480 --> 19:08.480]  No, I fixed it.
[19:08.480 --> 19:09.480]  I fixed it.
[19:09.480 --> 19:10.480]  I'm sorry.
[19:10.480 --> 19:13.920]  I had to lock down my email address for a while, but I unlocked it.
[19:13.920 --> 19:18.560]  Yeah, you can send me email to my Deborah at Rule of Law Radio again.
[19:18.560 --> 19:20.160]  Okay, cool.
[19:20.160 --> 19:26.520]  Basically, it involved a harassment complaint with a credit card that was 10 days overdue.
[19:26.520 --> 19:33.160]  I basically read them the Riot Act as far as the Fair Debt and Collection Practices
[19:33.160 --> 19:43.240]  Act of 1973, 15 USC 1692, A through K. I basically went through that.
[19:43.240 --> 19:52.360]  I also wanted to file a harassment complaint pursuant to Section 53A-183, Connecticut General
[19:52.360 --> 19:53.360]  Statutes.
[19:53.360 --> 20:00.680]  The reason I could bring that to federal court is because USC 18, Section 13 allowed me to
[20:00.680 --> 20:01.680]  do that.
[20:01.680 --> 20:06.720]  Basically, the US Attorney sent me a letter back saying, well, we're not going to take
[20:06.720 --> 20:07.720]  it.
[20:07.720 --> 20:08.720]  You have to call the FBI.
[20:08.720 --> 20:14.440]  Fortunately, the Connecticut Attorney General, Sue and Dick Blumenthal, did take it.
[20:14.440 --> 20:21.880]  Unfortunately, I did have to contact a court of the grand jury in Hartford.
[20:21.880 --> 20:23.800]  I did ask the woman.
[20:23.800 --> 20:29.040]  I'm like, look, I went through the US District Attorney already and she says, you've got
[20:29.040 --> 20:30.040]  to go through DA.
[20:30.040 --> 20:35.560]  I'm like, well, according to Bailu versus US, I don't have to do that.
[20:35.560 --> 20:38.120]  I can go directly to the grand jury.
[20:38.120 --> 20:39.120]  That's a criminal complaint.
[20:39.120 --> 20:41.000]  I have a right to do it.
[20:41.000 --> 20:46.000]  She says, well, I'm going to send it to the USDA if you send it to me.
[20:46.000 --> 20:50.880]  I basically said, well, do you mean to tell me that you would secret documents from a
[20:50.880 --> 20:52.240]  grand jury?
[20:52.240 --> 20:55.160]  She said, no, I wouldn't.
[20:55.160 --> 20:58.600]  I'm like, okay, Ronnie, what was your last name?
[20:58.600 --> 20:59.760]  Could you spell that for me?
[20:59.760 --> 21:02.760]  Then she basically said, I'm not going to give that to you.
[21:02.760 --> 21:07.840]  Then I hung up and I said, okay, thank you.
[21:07.840 --> 21:14.400]  This is how we get them.
[21:14.400 --> 21:16.760]  I'm pretty sure she's a nice person though.
[21:16.760 --> 21:23.400]  I don't want to put her in jail, but I think after I phrased it like that, it was pretty
[21:23.400 --> 21:27.640]  much the end of the phone call and probably the last time she'd do it.
[21:27.640 --> 21:30.120]  That's what we hope.
[21:30.120 --> 21:32.880]  You have the idea.
[21:32.880 --> 21:35.280]  This is how we change it.
[21:35.280 --> 21:42.280]  We take an ordinary public official who follows improper policy and we put the squeeze on
[21:42.280 --> 21:44.920]  them for following the improper policy.
[21:44.920 --> 21:50.440]  They're not going to want to be put in that position again.
[21:50.440 --> 21:54.360]  They're going to be talking to their boss about the policies they're being asked to
[21:54.360 --> 21:55.360]  implement.
[21:55.360 --> 22:03.080]  I bet she's never been put in a position to where she had a veiled threat of criminal
[22:03.080 --> 22:05.400]  prosecution against her.
[22:05.400 --> 22:07.840]  I could tell.
[22:07.840 --> 22:08.840]  It was hilarious.
[22:08.840 --> 22:16.400]  I actually had, I don't know if you got the email, but I have a letter from the US District
[22:16.400 --> 22:22.600]  Attorney saying, we can't take- Do we lose you?
[22:22.600 --> 22:23.600]  No.
[22:23.600 --> 22:24.600]  Okay.
[22:24.600 --> 22:27.920]  I actually have a letter I sent to you from the US District Attorney saying, we can't
[22:27.920 --> 22:30.920]  take this.
[22:30.920 --> 22:40.200]  What I can't find, unlike Texas law, is where a US attorney- Well, actually, there is.
[22:40.200 --> 22:51.960]  1332, 18 US Code 1332, directs a prosecuting attorney when he receives a complaint.
[22:51.960 --> 22:58.280]  There's nothing that- If he doesn't take it from you, he's denying you your right to petition
[22:58.280 --> 23:01.320]  the government for redress and grievance.
[23:01.320 --> 23:06.480]  There's nothing saying that he cannot take a criminal complaint from you when he can
[23:06.480 --> 23:10.320]  take a criminal complaint from someone else.
[23:10.320 --> 23:17.120]  I can't find anything that gives the FBI the special exclusive power to file criminal complaints.
[23:17.120 --> 23:19.120]  They made it up.
[23:19.120 --> 23:22.680]  I thought that was kind of interesting, but I just want to move along because I know you've
[23:22.680 --> 23:24.160]  got cars and everything.
[23:24.160 --> 23:25.160]  Okay.
[23:25.160 --> 23:32.240]  The reason that the MIAC memo, the Missouri Information Analysis Center thing, concerned
[23:32.240 --> 23:39.800]  me is we have another host on our evil rival network, Restore the Republic Radio.
[23:39.800 --> 23:44.480]  She actually lives in Jefferson City, Missouri.
[23:44.480 --> 23:51.320]  Basically what I did is in case anything happened, I went ahead and I did some research.
[23:51.320 --> 23:57.040]  It turns out I did assume that based on the contents of the memo, which I'll get into
[23:57.040 --> 24:03.640]  after I go over this, I'm assuming the crimes you're going to run into involve felonious
[24:03.640 --> 24:09.560]  restraint, false arrest, and or kidnapping, and of course you have conspiracy too.
[24:09.560 --> 24:17.280]  If you have more than one actors in the act of this, you're going into conspiracy.
[24:17.280 --> 24:23.280]  For example, if it's a Class A misdemeanor, it becomes a Class D felony.
[24:23.280 --> 24:25.400]  I think that would be important to remember.
[24:25.400 --> 24:33.360]  I don't know how that works in Texas, but I'm told there's a similar memo going around
[24:33.360 --> 24:34.360]  down there.
[24:34.360 --> 24:35.360]  Have you heard about it?
[24:35.360 --> 24:43.480]  No, I haven't, but since I just put in a stack of information requests to the Department
[24:43.480 --> 24:49.920]  of Public Safety here, they're out of time on a bunch of them, I will put one in for
[24:49.920 --> 25:00.840] ... Actually, I put in requests for all memos to police officers concerning enforcement
[25:00.840 --> 25:03.760]  activities.
[25:03.760 --> 25:09.960]  If I don't get that memo and I find out it exists somewhere else, oh, wonderful.
[25:09.960 --> 25:17.160]  I asked for employment contracts for police officers and got a response saying they have
[25:17.160 --> 25:23.080]  no records responsive to my request.
[25:23.080 --> 25:24.080]  That's interesting.
[25:24.080 --> 25:30.640]  I'd say, as far as my own experience goes on the campaign trail running for Congress
[25:30.640 --> 25:35.240]  and everything, I would completely agree with you.
[25:35.240 --> 25:41.680]  I know Debra was saying there are a lot of cops out there that do feel they have to do
[25:41.680 --> 25:44.680]  certain things because of the experiences they've went through.
[25:44.680 --> 25:49.480]  As far as a lot of the people that I've seen that have come back from Iraq, they really
[25:49.480 --> 25:52.960]  are questioning the way things have gone.
[25:52.960 --> 25:57.120]  That from my experience has been the vast majority of them.
[25:57.120 --> 26:00.880]  That was my experience from the military.
[26:00.880 --> 26:02.680]  I did not come back brainwashed.
[26:02.680 --> 26:05.040]  I did not come back.
[26:05.040 --> 26:14.280]  I had personal issues, but they didn't go to my military bearing.
[26:14.280 --> 26:18.880]  I knew what was right and I knew what was not right.
[26:18.880 --> 26:25.280]  The thing they don't talk about in the military is military bearing, the way we deal with
[26:25.280 --> 26:27.400]  one another.
[26:27.400 --> 26:33.560]  We're in very serious life-threatening situations.
[26:33.560 --> 26:38.760]  We have to be able to trust the people around us and we have to be able to trust them to
[26:38.760 --> 26:41.240]  do the right thing.
[26:41.240 --> 26:50.200]  That includes doing the reasonable and rational thing.
[26:50.200 --> 26:58.920]  In my opinion, the biggest hero of the Vietnam War was a helicopter pilot.
[26:58.920 --> 27:08.720]  He's flying over My Lai and he saw a group of GIs chasing about 150 Vietnamese women
[27:08.720 --> 27:11.960]  and children into a huge trench.
[27:11.960 --> 27:14.640]  They were firing on them as they were chasing them.
[27:14.640 --> 27:17.400]  They were all women and children.
[27:17.400 --> 27:24.380]  He set his helicopter down between the GIs and the Vietnamese and got on the loudspeaker
[27:24.380 --> 27:28.080]  and told them all to ground their weapons.
[27:28.080 --> 27:33.920]  When they didn't, he told his door gunner to lock and load and ordered them a second
[27:33.920 --> 27:36.880]  time to ground their weapons.
[27:36.880 --> 27:41.800]  When they didn't, he called back to his gunner and he ordered his gunner, when I tell them
[27:41.800 --> 27:47.200]  the next time if they don't ground the weapons, you are to open fire.
[27:47.200 --> 27:48.720]  They grounded their weapons.
[27:48.720 --> 27:51.460]  He was court-martialed.
[27:51.460 --> 27:59.800]  Two months after he passed away, they gave him the Congressional Medal of Honor.
[27:59.800 --> 28:00.800]  As it should be.
[28:00.800 --> 28:01.800]  As it should be.
[28:01.800 --> 28:08.440]  The hardest thing of all is to stand up against your own for the enemy because it's the right
[28:08.440 --> 28:12.080]  thing.
[28:12.080 --> 28:19.880]  All the GIs that I knew that heard about My Lai, every one I knew of when we spoke about
[28:19.880 --> 28:23.880]  Cali, they said they should hang him.
[28:23.880 --> 28:25.840]  They should absolutely execute him.
[28:25.840 --> 28:27.960]  That was not acceptable.
[28:27.960 --> 28:29.240]  We are soldiers.
[28:29.240 --> 28:32.880]  We are not murderers.
[28:32.880 --> 28:39.160]  We go out there and we do our job and we do it professionally and we all prided ourselves
[28:39.160 --> 28:42.720]  in being professional soldiers.
[28:42.720 --> 28:43.720]  Not murderers.
[28:43.720 --> 28:44.720]  Not jack-booted thugs.
[28:44.720 --> 28:51.760]  You're right and Eastern Connecticut, this is the district that I'm going to be running
[28:51.760 --> 28:52.920]  in again.
[28:52.920 --> 29:00.720]  We have a lot of really old people from not just the Vietnam War, we have them from the
[29:00.720 --> 29:04.040]  Korean War, we have them from the war in Iraq.
[29:04.040 --> 29:10.080]  A lot of them feel the same way and as far as Connecticut goes, Eastern Connecticut, this
[29:10.080 --> 29:17.680]  part of the state has really borne the biggest burden as far as any military conflict in
[29:17.680 --> 29:23.240]  the history of the United States is gone, as far as our state is gone.
[29:23.240 --> 29:26.120]  They pretty much say the same thing that you have.
[29:26.120 --> 29:29.960]  Now, I just want to finish because I know you've got callers coming up.
[29:29.960 --> 29:33.920]  What I'm going to do about that MIAC memo that came out...
[29:33.920 --> 29:34.920]  Hang on.
[29:34.920 --> 29:35.920]  Hang on.
[29:35.920 --> 29:36.920]  Hang on.
[29:36.920 --> 29:42.960]  Hang on, Dan, and other callers, hang on the line as well.
[29:42.960 --> 29:58.840]  Gage, Marcus, Russell, Mark from Wisconsin, we'll be right back.
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[32:22.640 --> 32:50.240]  All right, we are back.
[32:50.240 --> 32:54.640]  We are here speaking with Dan Reel, the Reel Deal from Connecticut.
[32:54.640 --> 32:57.360]  Okay, go ahead.
[32:57.360 --> 33:06.040]  Basically, I just wanted to conclude on that memo that came out of the Missouri Information
[33:06.040 --> 33:08.040]  Analysis Center.
[33:08.040 --> 33:12.160]  I was actually going to send a letter to the author of that memo.
[33:12.160 --> 33:21.680]  I believe his name is... Greg Hug is the guy that you contact for any feedback on previous
[33:21.680 --> 33:22.680]  memos.
[33:22.680 --> 33:25.920]  I'm trying to think of the name offhand.
[33:25.920 --> 33:33.400]  I don't have it right in front of me because that's upstairs, but I do have a letter drafted
[33:33.400 --> 33:38.400]  with the address you contacted for, and I'm going to get in touch with him.
[33:38.400 --> 33:42.800]  I'm basically going to write a letter asking, hey, where did you get your information from
[33:42.800 --> 33:43.800]  on this?
[33:43.800 --> 33:51.720]  The thing that really struck me odd about this is that it painted a very broad brush.
[33:51.720 --> 33:57.440]  It automatically said that if you were a member of a militia group and you thought the government
[33:57.440 --> 34:04.120]  was getting outside of its proper function, then automatically you are racist and you're
[34:04.120 --> 34:05.120]  anti-Semitic.
[34:05.120 --> 34:09.880]  Part of the questions I would ask would include, well, what about J.J.
[34:09.880 --> 34:10.880]  Johnson?
[34:10.880 --> 34:16.720]  He's a militia leader out of Ohio, and he happens to be black.
[34:16.720 --> 34:23.920]  Not only that, there's actually footage on Google video of him telling the Senate Subcommittee
[34:23.920 --> 34:31.760]  on Terrorism that he's tired of being called a Klansman, he's tired of being accused of
[34:31.760 --> 34:39.480]  being a member of the Aryan Nation, and on top of that, there is the anti-Semitic stuff.
[34:39.480 --> 34:43.800]  What about the Jews for the preservation of firearms?
[34:43.800 --> 34:45.120]  Now wait a minute.
[34:45.120 --> 34:47.680]  Doesn't the Klan have to have a token Negro?
[34:47.680 --> 34:48.680]  Oh, come on, Randy.
[34:48.680 --> 34:49.680]  Give me a break.
[34:49.680 --> 34:50.680]  I mean, how could this get more absurd?
[34:50.680 --> 34:51.680]  Give me a break.
[34:51.680 --> 34:52.680]  I mean, this is what I'm saying.
[34:52.680 --> 34:53.680]  I mean, they clearly must have gone...
[34:53.680 --> 34:54.680]  Gosh.
[34:54.680 --> 35:06.880]  As far as what I can find out, here's what really set me off about the Anti-Defamation
[35:06.880 --> 35:07.880]  League.
[35:07.880 --> 35:13.800]  They included Michael Badnerich among extremist speakers.
[35:13.800 --> 35:19.680]  I'm thinking like, what are you talking about?
[35:19.680 --> 35:25.000]  Well, he is pretty extreme, but I've never heard him say anything anti-Semitic.
[35:25.000 --> 35:26.000]  Exactly.
[35:26.000 --> 35:27.000]  That's what I mean.
[35:27.000 --> 35:35.040]  I'm thinking like, well, if Michael Badnerich's on your list of who is who, why not me?
[35:35.040 --> 35:38.440]  Why do I fall short?
[35:38.440 --> 35:40.560]  What am I, Chuck Lever?
[35:40.560 --> 35:41.560]  When is it my turn?
[35:41.560 --> 35:44.560]  When is it your turn?
[35:44.560 --> 35:45.560]  Oh my goodness.
[35:45.560 --> 35:53.360]  But yeah, I mean, this is the degree it's gotten to, and the reason I kind of drew the
[35:53.360 --> 35:58.960]  parallel here is I wouldn't be surprised if it was something from Homeland Security doing
[35:58.960 --> 36:05.880]  this, but on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if it was some organization like
[36:05.880 --> 36:08.160]  the Anti-Defamation League.
[36:08.160 --> 36:14.560]  You go to their website, ADL.org, you look at exactly what they're saying, and they put
[36:14.560 --> 36:20.160]  people like Mark Kowernke in the group of people that include Hal Turner.
[36:20.160 --> 36:22.920]  Oh, give me a break.
[36:22.920 --> 36:25.280]  Yeah, Hal Turner is a fed.
[36:25.280 --> 36:29.400]  I don't know if you know anything about that, but-
[36:29.400 --> 36:36.560]  Well, I've seen his blogs, and from, I mean, I haven't thoroughly researched it, but everything
[36:36.560 --> 36:42.440]  that I've seen of just what briefly I've read of his stuff, it's all unsubstantiated, no
[36:42.440 --> 36:49.280]  references, no links, it's rumor hearsay, and so I just can't take it seriously.
[36:49.280 --> 36:54.520]  It's all like paranoia, like trying to get people all worked up.
[36:54.520 --> 37:02.920]  He had a blog a few months ago about, oh, they were going to clamp down on martial law
[37:02.920 --> 37:08.960]  in 10 days or something, and the inside memo at Bank of America or whatever that they were
[37:08.960 --> 37:13.240]  going to have bank holiday for a week.
[37:13.240 --> 37:17.000]  This was like back in October or something, or maybe September, and how they were going
[37:17.000 --> 37:21.720]  to shut down the banks and transfer over to the Amero, and then they're going to have
[37:21.720 --> 37:26.320]  martial law for the next couple of months after that, and it just stirred up such a
[37:26.320 --> 37:30.480]  storm on the internet, but it was all completely unsubstantiated.
[37:30.480 --> 37:37.120]  There were no names, references, links, anything, so I just can't take it seriously.
[37:37.120 --> 37:43.120]  You're totally right, and I've seen this kind of thing before, like he took a picture of
[37:43.120 --> 37:49.400]  rail cars off of the highway in New Jersey where he lived near, and it turns out he was
[37:49.400 --> 37:54.320]  saying these were FEMA prison cars, and it turns out these cars are for transporting
[37:54.320 --> 38:02.840]  automobiles, and if you don't think that's funny, here's another one that happened.
[38:02.840 --> 38:09.200]  He took a picture, actually a video, of Amero coins that he said he had a guy smuggle out
[38:09.200 --> 38:11.080]  of the Denver Mint.
[38:11.080 --> 38:19.280]  It turns out these were coins you could order from a private Minter, and so on top of that,
[38:19.280 --> 38:24.480]  he's now coming out with this thing where Hillary Clinton has allegedly pledged eminent
[38:24.480 --> 38:32.240]  domain as collateral on U.S. loans, and if that's the case, well, A, it only comes from
[38:32.240 --> 38:38.520]  Hal Turner as a source, and B, you have the Federal Reserve buying U.S. Treasuries outright.
[38:38.520 --> 38:39.520]  Yeah.
[38:39.520 --> 38:43.720]  I thought they were selling them.
[38:43.720 --> 38:50.520]  No, the Federal Reserve, actually, I should say, is buying U.S. Treasuries.
[38:50.520 --> 38:52.520]  I got that opposite.
[38:52.520 --> 38:55.920]  Well, yeah, it's ridiculous.
[38:55.920 --> 38:57.800]  Kornke is nothing like Hal Turner.
[38:57.800 --> 38:59.480]  Give me a break.
[38:59.480 --> 39:02.920]  I listen to Hal Turner, and there's a survey on his website.
[39:02.920 --> 39:09.160]  How do we get through to the Federal Reserve governors, and all the options are pretty
[39:09.160 --> 39:16.000]  much violent except for the last one, which is another way, and I'm thinking, come on.
[39:16.000 --> 39:19.280]  You must be a Fed.
[39:19.280 --> 39:26.440]  We were at Brave New Books, and Kornke was there, and he was supposed to speak at seven,
[39:26.440 --> 39:31.040]  and he didn't get to start speaking until about nine.
[39:31.040 --> 39:34.160]  He held that crowd until two o'clock in the morning.
[39:34.160 --> 39:35.880]  Oh, yeah, there was like 100 people.
[39:35.880 --> 39:38.300]  We were all there until... No, it was three.
[39:38.300 --> 39:41.760]  He didn't finish talking until three o'clock in the morning.
[39:41.760 --> 39:42.760]  It was incredible.
[39:42.760 --> 39:48.600]  And it was one of the most unbelievable seminars, if you want to call it, that I had ever seen
[39:48.600 --> 39:49.600]  in my life.
[39:49.600 --> 39:56.360]  That man is extremely intelligent and focused, and he really knows what he's talking about,
[39:56.360 --> 40:02.360]  and he's not into overthrowing the government violently or any of that kind of crap.
[40:02.360 --> 40:03.360]  Okay.
[40:03.360 --> 40:08.120]  That's what gets me so mad about people like Hal Turner, but let me tell you something
[40:08.120 --> 40:10.200]  else about Hal Turner.
[40:10.200 --> 40:13.200]  Have you guys ever heard of a website called 4chan.org?
[40:13.200 --> 40:18.160]  Basically, on that website, there were a bunch of hackers.
[40:18.160 --> 40:23.240]  They went after the Church of Scientology and whatever, but basically, they pissed these
[40:23.240 --> 40:30.680]  guys off so much that they went after Hal Turner, and they actually got... They broke
[40:30.680 --> 40:36.280]  into his email account, which I don't condone, I think is completely wrong, but they did
[40:36.280 --> 40:42.040]  uncover an email between Hal Turner and his FBI handler.
[40:42.040 --> 40:46.440]  So what I want to do to confirm that is to file a Freedom of Information Act request.
[40:46.440 --> 40:47.440]  Ooh.
[40:47.440 --> 40:51.800]  Yeah, and basically ask, okay, well, does this agent exist?
[40:51.800 --> 40:53.560]  Good for you.
[40:53.560 --> 40:56.000]  Good move, Dan.
[40:56.000 --> 41:00.160]  I thought so, because- Let's blow this guy out of the water, because
[41:00.160 --> 41:05.960]  people have suspected this for years, and you can never nail it down, and he's causing
[41:05.960 --> 41:08.080]  a lot of damage in the Patriot community.
[41:08.080 --> 41:09.080]  Yeah.
[41:09.080 --> 41:12.520]  I'm just listening to the crap he's saying.
[41:12.520 --> 41:20.480]  I mean, 4chan, as much as they're crazy, I really like what they've done in a way, because
[41:20.480 --> 41:26.480]  they've gone out, and they've basically played along with this racist diatribe.
[41:26.480 --> 41:31.480]  They actually had it going for five, six minutes at a time, and then they just blow the lid
[41:31.480 --> 41:37.320]  on it, and Hal Turner realizes it's a prank call.
[41:37.320 --> 41:38.320]  It's great.
[41:38.320 --> 41:43.640]  You've got to check it out on YouTube or Google Video, but I really want to go check out the
[41:43.640 --> 41:47.200]  veracity of that email, but he made these guys so mad.
[41:47.200 --> 41:50.200]  They got his address, his license, everything.
[41:50.200 --> 41:53.320]  Yeah, these guys- Well, you know what?
[41:53.320 --> 41:57.720]  That happened with me, concerning Jonathan Mosley.
[41:57.720 --> 42:03.880]  He made me that mad when he wrote that hit piece on Professor Stephen Jones and World
[42:03.880 --> 42:04.880]  Net Daily.
[42:04.880 --> 42:06.600]  He made me that mad.
[42:06.600 --> 42:13.320]  I spent two months pounding the internet researching that guy, until I thoroughly exposed who he
[42:13.320 --> 42:17.400]  was, and I put the article up on Scholars from 9-11 Truth, so people have to watch it.
[42:17.400 --> 42:22.600]  He's fed up to watch it, because they're going to make people mad.
[42:22.600 --> 42:29.320]  I had time on my hands, and I had the internet, and so can't stop me.
[42:29.320 --> 42:33.400]  I actually interviewed Elliot Ross.
[42:33.400 --> 42:39.280]  He's the editor of American Gun Culture Report, and what he does with guns is he covers it
[42:39.280 --> 42:40.680]  from every perspective.
[42:40.680 --> 42:41.840]  He has all kinds of writers.
[42:41.840 --> 42:47.600]  I wrote a magazine on Cop Busters with Barry Cooper, and he has a whole bunch of writers
[42:47.600 --> 42:54.800]  from the communist side to the libertarian side, and he does it objectively.
[42:54.800 --> 42:59.440]  In his FAQ, basically, it's, you know, okay, I've got these rounds, I'm ready to start
[42:59.440 --> 43:04.480]  the revolution, and the answer in the FAQ is, find a more subtle mold, go report back
[43:04.480 --> 43:05.480]  to your FBI in-laws.
[43:05.480 --> 43:06.480]  Oh, my goodness.
[43:06.480 --> 43:15.120]  I mean, you know, I mean, it's so obvious, you know, what some of these people are doing.
[43:15.120 --> 43:16.120]  You've got to watch out.
[43:16.120 --> 43:19.120]  Well, good for you, Dan.
[43:19.120 --> 43:20.120]  Take them down.
[43:20.120 --> 43:21.120]  Go for it.
[43:21.120 --> 43:25.920]  Okay, listen, listen, we really should move on, because we've got a lot of callers stacking
[43:25.920 --> 43:26.920]  up.
[43:26.920 --> 43:27.920]  Thank you so much for calling in, Dan.
[43:27.920 --> 43:28.920]  We really appreciate it.
[43:28.920 --> 43:29.920]  Okay.
[43:29.920 --> 43:30.920]  Well, keep up the good work.
[43:30.920 --> 43:36.880]  I know you are from an evil rival network, which you forgot to mention on the air.
[43:36.880 --> 43:37.880]  Oh, brother.
[43:37.880 --> 43:38.880]  Oh, brother.
[43:38.880 --> 43:39.880]  Give me a break.
[43:39.880 --> 43:40.880]  Give me a break.
[43:40.880 --> 43:42.880]  When we come back, sign out, mention your evil rival network, and we'll go to our next
[43:42.880 --> 43:43.880]  call.
[43:43.880 --> 43:44.880]  Okay.
[43:44.880 --> 43:45.880]  Fair enough.
[43:45.880 --> 43:46.880]  All right.
[43:46.880 --> 43:47.880]  We'll be right back.
[43:47.880 --> 43:48.880]  Hang on the line, Dan, so you can plug your show.
[43:48.880 --> 43:49.880]  We'll be right back.
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[45:35.860 --> 45:41.860]  These warmongers come by that term of right.
[45:41.860 --> 45:52.460]  I won't pay for the war with my body, ain't gonna pay for their car with my money.
[45:52.460 --> 45:59.080]  I won't pay for the fun with my body, their plans wicked and their logic shoddy.
[45:59.080 --> 46:05.880]  Ain't gonna pay for the war with my body, I won't pay for the boys with my money.
[46:05.880 --> 46:13.480]  Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body, their whole agenda smells funny.
[46:13.480 --> 46:20.040]  I wanna fight in a war of my own.
[46:20.040 --> 46:23.640]  That one would be less and less and more.
[46:23.640 --> 46:30.040]  The Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, ruleoflawradio.com, we're having
[46:30.040 --> 46:31.240]  a blast tonight.
[46:31.240 --> 46:39.280]  Okay, go ahead Dan, plug your show on your so-called Evil Rival Network.
[46:39.280 --> 46:45.080]  Evil Rival Network would be restoretherpublicradio.com, my show is Real Liberty and the Constitution
[46:45.080 --> 46:48.000]  and I'd like to get you guys on sometime soon.
[46:48.000 --> 46:49.000]  Great.
[46:49.000 --> 46:50.480]  Absolutely, of course.
[46:50.480 --> 46:54.400]  Yeah, we had David Merland on twice already.
[46:54.400 --> 46:56.200]  Ooh, Myerland.
[46:56.200 --> 46:58.000]  Yes, Myerland.
[46:58.000 --> 47:00.600]  I always pronounce his name wrong.
[47:00.600 --> 47:03.600]  Just kidding when I do that.
[47:03.600 --> 47:06.120]  You look like having his name pronounced wrong.
[47:06.120 --> 47:07.120]  Okay, yeah.
[47:07.120 --> 47:10.440]  I don't know why you do that.
[47:10.440 --> 47:11.440]  Be annoying.
[47:11.440 --> 47:12.440]  Yeah, I know.
[47:12.440 --> 47:13.440]  I don't like it.
[47:13.440 --> 47:23.360]  You know, as far as one thing goes, I just like to say this, I couldn't imagine like
[47:23.360 --> 47:27.520]  all three of you guys in the same courtroom all at once, because it would be absolute
[47:27.520 --> 47:28.520]  upheaval.
[47:28.520 --> 47:29.520]  Really?
[47:29.520 --> 47:34.480]  Okay, Dan, thank you for calling and we really should move on so we can get to our other
[47:34.480 --> 47:35.480]  callers.
[47:35.480 --> 47:36.480]  Okay, not a problem.
[47:36.480 --> 47:37.480]  Keep up the good work.
[47:37.480 --> 47:38.480]  Okay, thank you.
[47:38.480 --> 47:40.640]  Okay, we're gonna go now to Gage in Maine.
[47:40.640 --> 47:46.240]  Oh, wait, before I go to Gage in Maine, Jerry's been feeding me documents here.
[47:46.240 --> 47:52.800]  Jerry had told me earlier about the Fusion Center, the Homeland Security Fusion Center.
[47:52.800 --> 47:57.720]  Jerry came in and told me that and he just came and gave me another piece of paper here.
[47:57.720 --> 48:01.960]  This is something that we can do about this Missouri situation.
[48:01.960 --> 48:05.960]  Everybody get out your pen and paper here, okay?
[48:05.960 --> 48:14.120]  You can call the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission.
[48:14.120 --> 48:26.640]  I think that's what he wrote here, St. Louis Convention and Visitors Center, 1-800-325-7962.
[48:26.640 --> 48:39.080]  And you can also call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce at 314-231-5555.
[48:39.080 --> 48:42.120]  Everybody call these people, everybody call the Chamber of Commerce and the Convention
[48:42.120 --> 48:48.000]  and Visitors Center and tell them that you are not going to go to Missouri, you're not
[48:48.000 --> 48:52.480]  gonna drive through Missouri, you're not gonna go vacation in Missouri or have anything to
[48:52.480 --> 48:57.880]  do with their state or give them your business at all because you're afraid to go there for
[48:57.880 --> 49:03.720]  fear of getting profiled because of this memo, okay?
[49:03.720 --> 49:10.800]  So you start pressuring them in the pocketbook and that's a very effective method, at least
[49:10.800 --> 49:14.040]  as effective as pressuring them with criminal charges.
[49:14.040 --> 49:16.760]  You hit them in the pocketbook, you hit them where it hurts.
[49:16.760 --> 49:21.920]  Yeah, we could start calling hotels and make reservations and two days later call back
[49:21.920 --> 49:25.320]  and cancel it because you would be profiled.
[49:25.320 --> 49:30.400]  Yeah, and then that's right and then the hotels will get really upset.
[49:30.400 --> 49:34.440]  This is a very effective technique, okay?
[49:34.440 --> 49:40.480]  Like when they were censoring Ron Paul on all the mainstream media, okay?
[49:40.480 --> 49:46.240]  Like HBO ran a poll and it had every candidate except for him and he was even gonna be a
[49:46.240 --> 49:50.840]  guest on like Jon Stewart's show that same day or something, okay?
[49:50.840 --> 49:56.920]  And so what you do is you call their sponsors, you know, like you call whoever the companies
[49:56.920 --> 50:04.040]  are that are running ads on these networks and you tell them that you're not gonna buy
[50:04.040 --> 50:10.680]  their products if they keep sponsoring this kind of bias, all right?
[50:10.680 --> 50:15.400]  And so then the sponsors get all mad and so then they call up the execs and say, hey,
[50:15.400 --> 50:18.000]  we're gonna pull our ad if you don't do something about this.
[50:18.000 --> 50:22.160]  So this is, it's a similar technique, you know, hit them where it hurts.
[50:22.160 --> 50:26.360]  All right, at any rate, we're gonna go now to Gage in Maine.
[50:26.360 --> 50:28.520]  Hey, Gage, thanks for calling in.
[50:28.520 --> 50:29.520]  What's on your mind tonight?
[50:29.520 --> 50:30.520]  Hi, Debra and Randy.
[50:30.520 --> 50:31.520]  How are you guys doing?
[50:31.520 --> 50:32.520]  Hi, we're doing great.
[50:32.520 --> 50:37.120]  I just had, I was fishing for a pin and I finally got one.
[50:37.120 --> 50:43.120]  Could you possibly repeat Dan's website there again?
[50:43.120 --> 50:44.120]  Dan Reel's website?
[50:44.120 --> 50:45.120]  Yes, please.
[50:45.120 --> 50:50.120]  I believe it's ReelDeal.com, R-E-A-L-E.
[50:50.120 --> 50:51.120]  Okay.
[50:51.120 --> 50:58.120]  Okay, either is ReelDeal.com or TheReelDeal.com or DanReel.com, I don't know, one of those.
[50:58.120 --> 50:59.120]  I'm sorry.
[50:59.120 --> 51:00.120]  That's fine.
[51:00.120 --> 51:01.120]  I'll find it.
[51:01.120 --> 51:03.560]  As long as I got some keywords, I'll get it figured out.
[51:03.560 --> 51:05.560]  I think it's TheReelDeal.com.
[51:05.560 --> 51:06.560]  Okay.
[51:06.560 --> 51:07.560]  Okay.
[51:07.560 --> 51:10.920]  I have just a few quick questions tonight.
[51:10.920 --> 51:12.760]  First, I wanna thank you guys.
[51:12.760 --> 51:18.800]  I've always had an interest in law and how things work and I've just, ever since I started
[51:18.800 --> 51:24.880]  listening to you guys, it's given me enough faith to really delve into some books and
[51:24.880 --> 51:28.680]  by listening to you guys, I'm starting to become more confident about approaching these
[51:28.680 --> 51:34.240]  people but I guess my first question is about the clerk of courts and if you go down there
[51:34.240 --> 51:38.160]  and you wanna just do some research and go through some files and stuff, I really believe
[51:38.160 --> 51:41.360]  that I'd probably be getting the run around.
[51:41.360 --> 51:47.880]  Are they breaking the law by not allowing you to go in there and look through the records?
[51:47.880 --> 51:48.880]  Absolutely.
[51:48.880 --> 51:49.880]  Absolutely.
[51:49.880 --> 51:50.880]  Of course.
[51:50.880 --> 51:52.880]  Well, what would you...
[51:52.880 --> 52:00.400]  So in a situation where they turn me out, how could I, I guess, fight back?
[52:00.400 --> 52:02.240]  Have they ever turned you out before?
[52:02.240 --> 52:06.400]  No, but I was talking to a friend who said to him before that he could only come one
[52:06.400 --> 52:10.960]  day a week if they wanted to look at records and I even went to a law library and talked
[52:10.960 --> 52:16.280]  to a librarian and she told me something similar to that, that sometimes they give them so
[52:16.280 --> 52:19.600]  much of a problem down there that they have to wait until a different clerk comes on at
[52:19.600 --> 52:22.240]  lunch and normally that clerk will cooperate.
[52:22.240 --> 52:25.240]  Okay, here's how you get cooperation.
[52:25.240 --> 52:26.600]  Okay.
[52:26.600 --> 52:32.800]  When you go in, you go to security and you tell security, I expect to have a problem
[52:32.800 --> 52:40.080]  with the clerk and the last thing I want the clerk to do is call you and lie to you accusing
[52:40.080 --> 52:42.880]  me of some crapola.
[52:42.880 --> 52:48.280]  So I need you to come with me because if this clerk denies me access to the records I want
[52:48.280 --> 52:55.520]  to see, I'm going to want you to arrest the clerk and this always gets security's attention.
[52:55.520 --> 52:59.240]  I was at the Capitol building in Boston, Texas.
[52:59.240 --> 53:00.240]  Yeah.
[53:00.240 --> 53:06.200]  I went to the court of appeals and asked for a file on a particular person.
[53:06.200 --> 53:07.680]  I wasn't in uniform.
[53:07.680 --> 53:09.320]  I didn't have a suit on.
[53:09.320 --> 53:10.320]  So he said, are you an attorney?
[53:10.320 --> 53:11.320]  I said, no, I'm not.
[53:11.320 --> 53:14.720]  Well, if you're not an attorney, I can't show you the records.
[53:14.720 --> 53:15.720]  Uh-oh.
[53:15.720 --> 53:19.320]  Well, I was sure that was wrong, but because it was court of appeals, I hadn't done my
[53:19.320 --> 53:20.320]  homework.
[53:20.320 --> 53:22.120]  So I went home and did my homework.
[53:22.120 --> 53:26.160]  I come back the next day and I walked in, the guard sitting at the door, I asked him,
[53:26.160 --> 53:27.800]  are you a certified police officer?
[53:27.800 --> 53:29.880]  And he said, well, no, I'm not.
[53:29.880 --> 53:31.760]  Get me one.
[53:31.760 --> 53:36.560]  So they got me a DPS officer and I went down there with the DPS officer.
[53:36.560 --> 53:38.680]  This time I'm in a suit.
[53:38.680 --> 53:43.560]  I gave him the name of the file I wanted to see.
[53:43.560 --> 53:48.080]  And he looked over at the DPS officer and he said, is there something I can do for you?
[53:48.080 --> 53:53.440]  And he had a little slot under the glass and I leaned down to the slot and I said, he's
[53:53.440 --> 53:57.200]  with me.
[53:57.200 --> 53:58.720]  I didn't have any more problems.
[53:58.720 --> 53:59.720]  It just, voila.
[53:59.720 --> 54:05.960]  Well, did he ask you if you were an attorney before he started addressing that officer?
[54:05.960 --> 54:06.960]  No.
[54:06.960 --> 54:09.120]  He didn't ask me if he was one.
[54:09.120 --> 54:10.120]  Was it the same guy?
[54:10.120 --> 54:11.120]  Same guy.
[54:11.120 --> 54:17.520]  So I was in Randall County, Texas.
[54:17.520 --> 54:23.360]  I wanted to see, I already had the clerk pretty ticked off at me because I asked for minutes
[54:23.360 --> 54:26.000]  of the grand jury and she didn't have them.
[54:26.000 --> 54:29.440]  So I gave her a written request and she said, well, I just told you that the prosecuting
[54:29.440 --> 54:30.440]  attorney has these.
[54:30.440 --> 54:35.360]  I said, I understand that, but you're supposed to have them and if the prosecuting attorney
[54:35.360 --> 54:38.640]  has them, well, that's a felony.
[54:38.640 --> 54:44.360]  So I need you to respond to this request with a letter that says I have no records responsive
[54:44.360 --> 54:46.040]  to your request.
[54:46.040 --> 54:48.080]  She was not happy with that one little bit.
[54:48.080 --> 54:51.960]  And then I told her I wanted to see some criminal files and I gave her some numbers.
[54:51.960 --> 54:55.760]  Well, you can go look at them in the computer, no ma'am.
[54:55.760 --> 55:02.040]  I need to see the physical file because I'm looking for records that I don't expect to
[55:02.040 --> 55:03.320]  find in there.
[55:03.320 --> 55:10.520]  So I need to see the file and make sure that after I ask for this record, two weeks later,
[55:10.520 --> 55:16.840]  you don't come along and say, oh, oh my goodness, we forgot to scan this in the computer.
[55:16.840 --> 55:19.200]  Oh yeah, typical scenario.
[55:19.200 --> 55:23.960]  If it's not in the physical file today, it doesn't exist and I'm going to want you to
[55:23.960 --> 55:25.560]  certify that it's not in there.
[55:25.560 --> 55:26.840]  Well, I can't show you those.
[55:26.840 --> 55:28.400]  I don't have the staff.
[55:28.400 --> 55:29.400]  Oh, you don't.
[55:29.400 --> 55:34.600]  I would have been like, that's okay, I'll go to the file cabinet and find it myself.
[55:34.600 --> 55:40.960]  No, I told her, wait right here, I need to go get security.
[55:40.960 --> 55:46.160]  I walked out the door, told security to send me an officer to take my criminal complaint
[55:46.160 --> 55:52.280]  for Class A misdemeanor, official misconduct or official oppression against the clerk for
[55:52.280 --> 55:59.800]  denying me a public court in violation of 1.24 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[55:59.800 --> 56:02.840]  And that's what it would fall under is official oppression?
[56:02.840 --> 56:06.760]  Anytime the public, well, okay, in Texas, the statute is official oppression.
[56:06.760 --> 56:11.520]  It may be official misconduct or something similar.
[56:11.520 --> 56:24.080]  You got 18 U.S. Code 242 that makes it a crime for a public official to purport or, let's
[56:24.080 --> 56:32.160]  see, to exert or purport to exert an authority they do not expressly have or fail to perform
[56:32.160 --> 56:34.160]  a duty they're required to perform.
[56:34.160 --> 56:35.160]  Gotcha.
[56:35.160 --> 56:37.280]  Okay, that's official misconduct.
[56:37.280 --> 56:38.280]  That's federal.
[56:38.280 --> 56:46.840]  Every state will have a statute similar that reflects the same constitutional provision.
[56:46.840 --> 56:49.400]  New Mexico is the only place we couldn't find one.
[56:49.400 --> 56:54.120]  But if you can't find one in the state, you can pull in the federal statute.
[56:54.120 --> 56:58.040]  Yeah, and Gage, you probably have something like that.
[56:58.040 --> 57:02.280]  I know we have an oppression one because I did check that out, but my question is, say
[57:02.280 --> 57:06.760]  the bailiff is just like, hey, you know, there's no way and then the clerk just looks at me
[57:06.760 --> 57:08.520]  with questions.
[57:08.520 --> 57:09.520]  This gets good.
[57:09.520 --> 57:14.760]  Okay, you tell the bailiff, well, life is filled with little decisions.
[57:14.760 --> 57:17.120]  We all get to make some.
[57:17.120 --> 57:18.120]  Your turn.
[57:18.120 --> 57:26.840]  Now, I realize you don't have a duty to protect me, but you do have a duty to enforce law.
[57:26.840 --> 57:31.480]  And now you're refusing to enforce law because this is a friend of yours.
[57:31.480 --> 57:36.880]  In Texas, the statute is 3805, shielded from prosecution.
[57:36.880 --> 57:41.680]  But if you don't have that one, you can still go back to official misconduct.
[57:41.680 --> 57:42.680]  Okay.
[57:42.680 --> 57:50.080]  And now the bailiff is in a position to where you forget about the clerk for the time being.
[57:50.080 --> 57:51.080]  Now you go after the bailiff.
[57:51.080 --> 57:52.080]  The bailiff's on a dime.
[57:52.080 --> 57:56.800]  And so what I do to the bailiff, what I did in Randall County, when they brought out a
[57:56.800 --> 58:01.880]  lieutenant and the lieutenant said, well, nobody's going to be filing a complaint today.
[58:01.880 --> 58:04.400]  And I told the first guy, what'd you bring him for?
[58:04.400 --> 58:05.400]  He's worthless.
[58:05.400 --> 58:07.160]  You guys need to get lost.
[58:07.160 --> 58:08.160]  I need a real policeman.
[58:08.160 --> 58:09.160]  What's the number of the sheriff's department?
[58:09.160 --> 58:10.160]  So I call the sheriff's department.
[58:10.160 --> 58:14.520]  And you just steady turn the heat up on them.
[58:14.520 --> 58:16.240]  You ratchet up on them, huh?
[58:16.240 --> 58:17.240]  Yep.
[58:17.240 --> 58:18.240]  Everything they do makes it worse.
[58:18.240 --> 58:19.240]  I gotcha.
[58:19.240 --> 58:25.440]  Yeah, and Gage, you're in Maine, which is, you know, up there, New England, part of the
[58:25.440 --> 58:28.200]  original colonies, so you have older law.
[58:28.200 --> 58:30.200]  Are you a Commonwealth?
[58:30.200 --> 58:31.680]  No, we're not.
[58:31.680 --> 58:33.880]  No, Maine is not a Commonwealth.
[58:33.880 --> 58:37.760]  And so you probably have very strong law like Texas.
[58:37.760 --> 58:41.280]  See, the reason New Mexico has weak laws is because it's a newer state.
[58:41.280 --> 58:47.120]  And so they were hip to all that kind of protecting your rights kind of legislation.
[58:47.120 --> 58:48.120]  They didn't do it.
[58:48.120 --> 58:49.120]  Anyway, we're going to break.
[58:49.120 --> 58:50.120]  Gage, stay on the line.
[58:50.120 --> 58:51.120]  We'll be right back.
[58:51.120 --> 58:54.120]  This is the rule of law on ruleoflawradio.com.
[58:54.120 --> 58:55.800]  We'll be right back.
[59:54.120 --> 59:57.120]  Hello, listeners.
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[01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:24.080]  Jim will be giving an in-depth lecture on the entire UFO phenomenon based on his best-selling
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[01:00:28.080 --> 01:00:32.160]  Alien Agenda is recognized as the number one book on UFOs and has been translated into
[01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:33.160]  15 different languages.
[01:00:33.160 --> 01:00:36.960]  So please be sure to purchase a copy for the book signing that will follow the lecture.
[01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:41.960]  Once again, Jim Mars will begin his lecture at 7 p.m. on Saturday, March 21st at Brave
[01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:42.960]  New Books.
[01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:47.040]  The bookstore is located at 1904 Guadalupe Street at the corner of MLK and Guadalupe.
[01:00:47.040 --> 01:00:49.040]  This is sure to be a popular event, so please come early.
[01:00:49.040 --> 01:00:55.040]  If you have any questions, please call the bookstore 512-480-2503 and be sure to visit
[01:00:55.040 --> 01:00:58.720]  bravenewbookstore.com for a list of exciting events coming soon.
[01:00:58.720 --> 01:00:59.720]  Thank you.
[01:00:59.720 --> 01:01:03.800]  Do you feel like you're shouting into the wind when it comes to speaking with politicians?
[01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.880]  Texans for Accountable Government believes your voices should be heard loud and clear.
[01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:12.640]  On Monday, March 30th at 6 p.m. in the council chambers at Austin City Hall, Texans for Accountable
[01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:16.640]  Government will be hosting a public forum regarding police blood withdrawals.
[01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:20.520]  The forum will be sponsored by council member Randy Shade and will allow you, the people
[01:01:20.520 --> 01:01:24.760]  of Austin, the opportunity to express your opinion regarding whether or not you believe
[01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:28.800]  the city should take federal funds in order to train Austin police officers to withdraw
[01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:29.800]  blood.
[01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:33.800]  The panelists will include Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo, Mass State Executive Director
[01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:39.000]  Karen Housewright, City Council Member Mike Martinez, ACLU Chapter President Debbie Russell,
[01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:42.040]  and Texans for Accountable Government Executive Director John Bush.
[01:01:42.040 --> 01:01:46.680]  The forum will be moderated by local Austin TV host David Koparowski and open for questions
[01:01:46.680 --> 01:01:47.680]  from the public.
[01:01:47.680 --> 01:01:49.920]  Be there early as attendance is expected to be high.
[01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.400]  For more information, please visit tagtexas.org.
[01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.760]  Be there Monday, March 30th at 6 p.m. in Austin City Hall.
[01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:58.840]  This is our time to speak up and be heard.
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[01:02:38.240 --> 01:02:47.120]  All right, we are back, the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens.
[01:02:47.120 --> 01:02:52.640]  All right, we are speaking here with Gage in Maine.
[01:02:52.640 --> 01:02:53.640]  Yes.
[01:02:53.640 --> 01:02:58.000]  I just have really two more quick questions.
[01:02:58.000 --> 01:02:59.000]  Okay.
[01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:00.760]  One was about like the arraignment in the morning.
[01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:04.840]  I heard Randall be of a day talking about that and if they go down there and they give
[01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:11.000]  me some static about watching that, the arraignment, which they most likely will, what tax should
[01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:14.840]  I take to perk their ears up?
[01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:21.400]  Well, that's what I like to use that to start fights with.
[01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:24.800]  First thing what I do is I go down there and I ask to see a hearing and the police are
[01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:29.480]  going to tell me, �Oh, you can see that.� Well, see, I don't want the police to tell
[01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:30.480]  me that.
[01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:31.680]  I want the judge to tell me that.
[01:03:31.680 --> 01:03:38.160]  So I tell them, �You really need to get the judge to tell me that.� Whoever tells
[01:03:38.160 --> 01:03:41.760]  me that is going to be violating my right and I really don't want it to be you.
[01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:45.200]  I would much rather it be the judge.
[01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:51.440]  And I've never, you know, you always be, keep your cool, never get upset at them.
[01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:55.600]  They like to do confrontation, that's what they know how to do.
[01:03:55.600 --> 01:03:59.240]  And when you just ignore it and just, �No, no, no, just disperse it.� �No, I don't
[01:03:59.240 --> 01:04:02.360]  want to hurt you guys.
[01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:03.360]  You guys are cool.
[01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:10.320]  You didn't do this.� I would rather get the one who's actually running the court.
[01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:15.320]  And it just drives them nuts when you don't do what they tell you to.
[01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:18.800]  Denton County, I used to do that to them all the time, it drove them crazy.
[01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.400]  I wound up suing Denton County for $11 million.
[01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:23.600]  I sued 24 litigants.
[01:04:23.600 --> 01:04:30.680]  I sued my worst nightmare because I'm at the jail waiting to see the magistrate and they're
[01:04:30.680 --> 01:04:34.000]  telling me, �You can't see this morning in the rain.� And I said, �Well, who are
[01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:42.120]  you?� �Well, I'm J.W. Johnson.� I said, �Well, so?� �What are you doing telling
[01:04:42.120 --> 01:04:46.160]  me I can't see a court hearing?� �Well, I'm J.W. Johnson.� �Well, I work here.�
[01:04:46.160 --> 01:04:51.680]  I said, �So, so is that guy out there picking up trash.� Turned out he was Major Johnson.
[01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:55.640]  And then this other guy stepped up over me and he said, �He told you, you can't see
[01:04:55.640 --> 01:05:01.480]  the morning in the rain.� And I said, �And who are you?� And he leaned over me and
[01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:07.240]  said, �I'm your worst nightmare.� Yes, so Randy Seuss, he names the guy his worst
[01:05:07.240 --> 01:05:08.240]  nightmare.
[01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:10.400]  Yes, no way to tell me who he was.
[01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:14.600]  So they get real excited and you go, �No, no, no, don't worry about it.� They're telling
[01:05:14.600 --> 01:05:15.600]  me I got to leave.
[01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:19.680]  I said, �No, I'll see what the judge has to say.� See, they're afraid of that judge.
[01:05:19.680 --> 01:05:22.000]  They're afraid of all the judges.
[01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.960]  So I want to kick the judges behind and they know it.
[01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.880]  They don't want me to kick the judges behind.
[01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:31.320]  Always have a bigger hammer than they got.
[01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.320]  The one thing I tell them, I say, �Look guys, just calm down.
[01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:39.320]  I'm not after you guys.� I had a lieutenant ask me, �If you're not after me, who are
[01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:42.720]  you after?� I'm after the district judge.
[01:05:42.720 --> 01:05:46.440]  I had told him I was going to be filing criminal charges against him and I hope he didn't take
[01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:47.440]  it personal.
[01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:52.240]  �Because I'm not after you.� He said, �Well, who are you after?� I'm after the
[01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:53.240]  district judge.
[01:05:53.240 --> 01:05:57.360]  �You're going to file criminal charges against me and you're after the district judge?�
[01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:03.120]  I said, �Yeah, that's right.� �Well, why me?� �Well, you're convenient.�
[01:06:03.120 --> 01:06:09.360]  �So, you know, how is he going to deal with me now?� I could care less about him.
[01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:10.360]  For me, he's cannon fodder.
[01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:11.360]  Is that oppression as well?
[01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:12.360]  Is that the same thing?
[01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:13.360]  Yes.
[01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:20.280]  �Yes or no on that one?� �Yes, yes, yes.� �Okay, gotcha.� �They're trying
[01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.400]  to exert an authority they do not have.� �Including the judge, he does not have that
[01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:29.240]  authority, he or she.� �That's right.� �Okay.� �So then the judge is the one
[01:06:29.240 --> 01:06:34.000]  I want to get to.� In this case, the lieutenant went back and talked to the judge and came
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:39.520]  out and he said, �The judge said it's her courtroom and you're not coming in it.�
[01:06:39.520 --> 01:06:44.400]  I said, �Lieutenant, you need to instruct that judge that she is mistaken.
[01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:50.240]  That is my courtroom and I very generously allow her to administer it according to my
[01:06:50.240 --> 01:06:53.800]  law.� �Okay, Gage, did you have another question
[01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:57.640]  because we're getting calls you're stacking up.� �Yeah, I'll tell you what, my phone
[01:06:57.640 --> 01:06:59.800]  is about to die, but Randall, I know you're a busy man.
[01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:00.800]  I sent you an email.
[01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:04.280]  If you got a chance to answer me back on that, like a one-liner or something, that would
[01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:05.280]  be awesome.
[01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.360]  But if not, I'll call you guys in some other time.� �Okay, I'll answer you back in the
[01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:09.360]  morning.� �Thank you very much.�
[01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:10.360]  �Okay, great.
[01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:11.360]  Thank you, Gage.� �All right.�
[01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:19.400]  �Okay, we are going to go now to Russell in Texas.� Hey, Russell, thanks for calling
[01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:24.440]  in.� �Hey, how are you doing?� �Good.� �I wanted Randall to tell the audience about
[01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:34.080]  a Ohio conference, not a call, but a recording from several years ago where the Congress
[01:07:34.080 --> 01:07:39.560]  actually funded this judicial institute in Ohio, and what they did with the funding was
[01:07:39.560 --> 01:07:45.200]  have all the judges around the United States came at different time periods and came to
[01:07:45.200 --> 01:07:52.160]  this conference in Ohio to learn how to circumvent pro se's rights.
[01:07:52.160 --> 01:07:58.320]  They also told them in this conference that the higher courts will back the lower court's
[01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:02.320]  judgments against pro se litigants and stuff.� �Right away.�
[01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:08.960]  �They are hitting us from every direction they can, whether it's the Missouri deals
[01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:13.800]  about profiling or whether it's to circumvent our rights when we try to bring something
[01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:17.720]  to court.� �And they say these things and they don't
[01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:22.680]  care that it's being recorded and that it's going to go out everywhere.�
[01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:28.800]  �I don't think they knew this was getting out.� �I don't think so either, but this
[01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:38.640]  was actually gotten from somebody in Rod Klaas's group from AIB radio, found this out about
[01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:39.640]  three years ago.
[01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:43.680]  I've had that recording ever since and then I mentioned something to Randy about it a
[01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:48.280]  couple weeks ago and I transferred it to him because he wants to try to post it on the
[01:08:48.280 --> 01:08:53.720]  internet on the website, but it's so big, it's like 370 megabytes.�
[01:08:53.720 --> 01:09:00.800]  �Well listen, I know how to do different types of encoding.
[01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:06.960]  I can get that file to a reasonable size and still have it be very high quality.
[01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:12.800]  So I'll get it from Randy and then we're also going to listen to it and find out where the
[01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:17.680]  juiciest pieces are and make like 30 second or one or two minute clips or whatever of
[01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:23.280]  the best pieces too so that people don't have to listen to like four hours of audio to get
[01:09:23.280 --> 01:09:28.480]  to the good parts or whatever, but we'll also post the whole thing for research purposes
[01:09:28.480 --> 01:09:33.760]  and what I can do is I can cut it up into like hour by hour and have like one hour segments.
[01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.120]  I can also encode it into different formats, so I'll take care of that part, Russell.�
[01:09:37.120 --> 01:09:38.120]  �Right.� �Good.�
[01:09:38.120 --> 01:09:43.640]  �But what was the most aggravating part about it was Congress funded this damn thing.�
[01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:44.640]  �Unbelievable.�
[01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:48.560]  �I want to find out all of the judges who attend it.�
[01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.920]  �Can we file criminal charges against them for this?�
[01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:57.040]  �Not for that, but if we can go to a case that they heard where it has the appearance
[01:09:57.040 --> 01:10:01.560]  that they denied a pro se in his rights, then we can.�
[01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:07.280]  �So and I think your caller, what was his name, Dan or whatever from Connecticut?�
[01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:08.280]  �Yeah, Dan Rihon.�
[01:10:08.280 --> 01:10:13.280]  �Once you get that done, he should be putting some of this stuff on his chill and stuff
[01:10:13.280 --> 01:10:14.280]  too.�
[01:10:14.280 --> 01:10:15.280]  �Absolutely.�
[01:10:15.280 --> 01:10:22.000]  �That's evil rival network.� �Okay, yeah, good.
[01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.600]  I haven't had time to go through it yet.
[01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:31.560]  That's why I haven't brought it up, but I would very much like to get it dressed up.
[01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:36.560]  Tony Davis is using it in his cases.� �Is he?�
[01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:38.000]  �Yes, he is.� �I didn't know that.�
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:41.520]  �Yeah, he's going after the judges with it.
[01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:45.960]  And this clerk that committed suicide from the Fifth Circuit.�
[01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:50.600]  �Incredible, so sad.� �Because the judges, he spent 20 years with
[01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:54.800]  judges screwing pro se litigants, never even reading their documents.�
[01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:59.680]  �Unbelievable.� �So we're building more tools to go after
[01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:01.680]  these judges with.� �That's right.�
[01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:06.440]  �And that's one of them.� �Because you can be a pro se litigant and
[01:11:06.440 --> 01:11:10.640]  be right dead on point and have the law behind you, and they're still going to rule against
[01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:11.640]  you.� �Yeah.�
[01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.640]  �Yeah, they may not even read it.� �Sometimes, yeah.
[01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:19.720]  But I mean, what makes me mad is when you do have an effort, you put all this effort
[01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:24.880]  into your case and you have the law on your side, and they just completely ignore it like
[01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:29.160]  you're not even there.� �Well, the appeals court just did that to
[01:11:29.160 --> 01:11:33.520]  Russell, and I'm trying to get caught up, and one of the things I want to do is file
[01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:38.480]  criminal charges against all of these judges for misuse it.�
[01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:41.760]  �They basically said that due process was mirrorless.�
[01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:43.560]  �Yes, doesn't count.
[01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:45.240]  Nothing counts.
[01:11:45.240 --> 01:11:47.480]  After indictment, nothing else counts.
[01:11:47.480 --> 01:11:51.240]  They can arrest you, they can hold you for 10 years, they can beat you half to death,
[01:11:51.240 --> 01:11:52.240]  they can gouge your eyes out.
[01:11:52.240 --> 01:11:53.240]  None of that counts.� �I don't think.�
[01:11:53.240 --> 01:11:54.240]  �They're going to get an indictment.
[01:11:54.240 --> 01:11:58.920]  It's over.� �Well, you know, why bother having a pedant
[01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.880]  jury and a trial and a conviction if nothing matters after indictment?
[01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:07.200]  Give me a break.� �Yeah, and also, you know, I don't see
[01:12:07.200 --> 01:12:11.120]  anything in the due process clause in the Constitution that says that it could be turned
[01:12:11.120 --> 01:12:12.120]  on and off at whim.� �Exactly.�
[01:12:12.120 --> 01:12:18.800]  �So, I'm going to be there the whole time.� �I want to charge the judges with official
[01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:26.840]  misconduct or official oppression by misfeasance.� �So, anyway, I just want to touch base with
[01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:28.480]  that.� �All right, thanks, Russell.�
[01:12:28.480 --> 01:12:32.880]  �Okay, bye-bye.� �All right, we are going to move on now.
[01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:37.440]  We are going to go to Mark in Wisconsin, he's one of our affiliates.
[01:12:37.440 --> 01:12:42.000]  Hey, Mark, thanks for calling in and thank you again for broadcasting our show.
[01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:43.320]  How's it going up there?
[01:12:43.320 --> 01:12:44.320]  �Good, good.
[01:12:44.320 --> 01:12:49.240]  Hey, you know, if you put the archives up tonight, I can play you all weekend.�
[01:12:49.240 --> 01:12:56.080]  �I am now, my archiving process is now automated and I just have to do a couple of steps manually.
[01:12:56.080 --> 01:12:59.760]  So, yeah, the archives go up every night now after the shows.�
[01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:02.640]  �That is hot.� �Yeah.
[01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.240]  And also, and I was going to mention this on the air anyway, so I'm glad you brought
[01:13:06.240 --> 01:13:18.240]  it up, my assistant producer Aaron is right now constructing an even more incredible automated
[01:13:18.240 --> 01:13:20.440]  archiving system.
[01:13:20.440 --> 01:13:26.720]  He's going to take my raw high-quality WAV files that I record that I have that part
[01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:31.280]  automated now and I'm going to have them automatically uploaded to the server.
[01:13:31.280 --> 01:13:36.840]  He's going to take them and he's writing scripts to automatically encode them into various
[01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:45.120]  multiple different formats like OGG and Speaks, different bit depths of MP3 and he even is
[01:13:45.120 --> 01:13:50.000]  setting up something with voice recognition where there will be a search window on the
[01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:56.840]  archive page where you can type in keywords and it will pull up archives where we said
[01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:04.160]  those words and it will even scroll automatically to the place in the audio file where we say
[01:14:04.160 --> 01:14:06.560]  those words.� �Oh my God.�
[01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:07.560]  �I know.
[01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:08.560]  Isn't that incredible?
[01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:09.560]  That's going to be awesome.
[01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:13.440]  He's setting it up right now.� �Oh man, that's excellent.�
[01:14:13.440 --> 01:14:20.560]  �But until he has that set up, the part that I'm doing is pretty much automated.
[01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:25.920]  I mean, I still have to encode down the MP3 and post it, but that doesn't take very long.
[01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:29.440]  So yeah, archives go up every night now.� �Great, great.
[01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:30.440]  I'm glad to hear it.
[01:14:30.440 --> 01:14:32.520]  I'll be using them.� �All right.
[01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:33.520]  Thank you.� �Yep.�
[01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:37.280]  �Wait, you can't go without a lawyer joke.� �I'm going to run a marathon next weekend
[01:14:37.280 --> 01:14:38.280]  of just your show.� �I'm sorry.
[01:14:38.280 --> 01:14:39.280]  Say that again.
[01:14:39.280 --> 01:14:43.280]  Say that again, Mark.� �I'm going to run a marathon next weekend
[01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:44.280]  of just your show.� �Wow.�
[01:14:44.280 --> 01:14:45.280]  �Because I think it's that important.� �Wow.�
[01:14:45.280 --> 01:14:51.520]  �Wonderful.� �How do you like my new network liner that
[01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:55.840]  I made?� �The 15 second network liner that I made?�
[01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:59.120]  �You know, just announcing the name of the network.�
[01:14:59.120 --> 01:15:00.120]  �Oh, excellent.
[01:15:00.120 --> 01:15:01.120]  That's great.� �Thanks.�
[01:15:01.120 --> 01:15:05.800]  �You guys are really getting high tech over there.�
[01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:06.800]  �Well, yeah.
[01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.360]  I mean, we're in this to win it.
[01:15:09.360 --> 01:15:17.480]  I want our network to be just, you know, we're going to get on satellite, okay?
[01:15:17.480 --> 01:15:20.360]  We're setting up for syndication.
[01:15:20.360 --> 01:15:25.120]  I'm setting up to compete with GCN.� �Oh, I feel like a little fish now.�
[01:15:25.120 --> 01:15:26.120]  �Well, no.
[01:15:26.120 --> 01:15:27.120]  Listen, Mark.
[01:15:27.120 --> 01:15:28.120]  Hold on.
[01:15:28.120 --> 01:15:29.120]  Hold on.
[01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:30.120]  You are an affiliate, okay?
[01:15:30.120 --> 01:15:34.040]  A lot of people don't understand what the difference is between a network and an affiliate.
[01:15:34.040 --> 01:15:38.400]  You're an affiliate, and the affiliates are very important.� �Actually, the affiliates
[01:15:38.400 --> 01:15:42.480]  are the ones who call the shots, because if it weren't for the affiliates, we wouldn't
[01:15:42.480 --> 01:15:47.760]  be on the air as far as like FM and AM, because what I do is I produce an internet stream,
[01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:48.760]  okay?
[01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:49.760]  But you're the affiliate.
[01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:54.080]  You're the one putting us on the air, so you're the, you know, you're the one calling
[01:15:54.080 --> 01:15:55.080]  the shots.
[01:15:55.080 --> 01:15:56.080]  You're the boss, you know?.� �Yeah.
[01:15:56.080 --> 01:15:57.080]  It's all because of you.
[01:15:57.080 --> 01:16:01.080]  We had to quit cussing on the air.� �Come on, Randy.�
[01:16:01.080 --> 01:16:03.840]  �I just kept complaining, huh?
[01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:07.840]  And now is probably the best time in the history of this nation to be on the air.
[01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:11.600]  People are really starting to get slapped in the face and getting a wake-up call, and
[01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:14.920]  if you're there with a message, I mean.� �Exactly.�
[01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:16.880]  �And another thing, too.
[01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.600]  People can listen anonymously.
[01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:22.000]  You know, there's so much fear going on right now, all you got to do is turn your radio
[01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.000]  on.� �Right.�
[01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:29.560]  �And I've been, I've been saying, all of us doing this, we've been in training to be
[01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:35.440]  here this time in this place.� �And you're locked and loaded.�
[01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:38.360]  �The stars are aligning themselves.� �Absolutely.�
[01:16:38.360 --> 01:16:41.680]  �Okay, Mark, do you have anything else you want to hold on to through the break?�
[01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.280]  �Yeah, I had a question for you.� �Okay, all right, just hang on the line,
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[01:16:47.320 --> 01:16:48.840]  We only have one other caller on the line.
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[01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:46.360]  All right, we are talking right now with Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:18:46.360 --> 01:18:49.440]  Okay, Mark, go ahead.
[01:18:49.440 --> 01:18:53.280]  I had a small problem with my mortgage lender.
[01:18:53.280 --> 01:18:56.480]  They called and asked if they could take some funds out of an account, and my wife told
[01:18:56.480 --> 01:18:57.480]  them no.
[01:18:57.480 --> 01:19:02.000]  They took them out anyway, a bunch of checks bounced, and I asked them who did it, what's
[01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:03.000]  going on.
[01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:07.280]  They gave me a phone number to one of their collections agencies.
[01:19:07.280 --> 01:19:12.920]  My payment was only like a week behind, and anyway, it's just an answering machine that
[01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:16.040]  they don't answer, so they're practicing subterfuge over there.
[01:19:16.040 --> 01:19:20.840]  I'm wondering, do I just send a tort letter to them, would that be the best route?
[01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:22.840]  Whoever the lender is.
[01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:27.040]  Yeah, the primary lender, should I just send them a tort letter since their contractor
[01:19:27.040 --> 01:19:28.280]  won't answer my calls?
[01:19:28.280 --> 01:19:32.680]  Exactly, you're not interested in who works for those people.
[01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:35.400]  You don't have anything to do with them.
[01:19:35.400 --> 01:19:41.200]  The lender is the one you have the contract with, that's the only one that counts.
[01:19:41.200 --> 01:19:47.400]  Do I just charge them for what my checks bounced for, or can I charge them more?
[01:19:47.400 --> 01:19:49.920]  Yeah, you can charge them anything you want to.
[01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:50.920]  Okay.
[01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:56.600]  Is there a formula for that, or you just decide what you want and send a tort letter?
[01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:58.380]  There's kind of a rule of thumb.
[01:19:58.380 --> 01:20:06.520]  If you maintain that they did it illegally, then you can ask them to make you whole again,
[01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:13.800]  and then ask for punitive damages in three times the amount of the original damage.
[01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.160]  Oh, punitive three times?
[01:20:15.160 --> 01:20:19.480]  Now, if I sent them that tort letter, they would probably just pay it off, I'm thinking,
[01:20:19.480 --> 01:20:25.640]  because it's easily winnable, I mean, just from the documentation I've got now, so I'll
[01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.200]  just do that then.
[01:20:29.200 --> 01:20:32.800]  I sent a tort letter to the city, remember I told the mayor I was going to sue them,
[01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:39.400]  two police officers, and a prosecuting attorney, and a judge, all for arresting my son without
[01:20:39.400 --> 01:20:40.400]  jurisdiction.
[01:20:40.400 --> 01:20:46.480]  They sent a letter back saying, on behalf of the city, I am communicating the city's
[01:20:46.480 --> 01:20:52.000]  disallowance of your claim for legal liability damages, or ensure Liberty Mutual has investigated
[01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:55.640]  your claim and found no legal liability on the city's behalf.
[01:20:55.640 --> 01:21:00.720]  Now, I never really wanted to sue the city, I just wanted to kind of rattle their cage.
[01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:08.560]  Well, I was considering suing them, but I'm wondering, out of all those people, Randy
[01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:14.320]  and Deborah, I probably only want to sue one of them, and I've got four or five people
[01:21:14.320 --> 01:21:16.480]  on the hook, who do you think I should go after?
[01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:23.960]  You know, I really want to make the prosecuting attorney suffer because he knew what was going
[01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:28.520]  on the whole time, and I think he's the one who's prodding the police to go through with
[01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:29.520]  this sort of stuff, too.
[01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:31.560]  Well, who has the deepest pockets?
[01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.480]  That's who I would sue.
[01:21:33.480 --> 01:21:38.280]  You have to sue the city, and the way you get to the city...
[01:21:38.280 --> 01:21:42.880]  No, I'm going to sue them civilly, because the city doesn't allow punitive damages, Randy.
[01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.360]  I'm going to sue these guys civilly.
[01:21:45.360 --> 01:21:48.840]  Yeah, they do.
[01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:49.840]  They missed something.
[01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:51.200]  What'd they miss?
[01:21:51.200 --> 01:21:58.960]  How did they get your son, from where they arrested him, to the jail?
[01:21:58.960 --> 01:21:59.960]  They transported him.
[01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:04.920]  In a motorized piece of equipment owned by the city?
[01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:05.920]  Yes.
[01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:10.560]  That's the only time the city waives its sovereign immunity.
[01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:13.480]  Wait, this is Wisconsin, Randy.
[01:22:13.480 --> 01:22:15.800]  Every state I've looked at so far has the same one.
[01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:16.800]  Oh, good.
[01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:27.920]  If a city truck, dump truck, operated by the city, bashes into your car, he can sue you.
[01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:33.520]  You can sue him, because for those kind of things, they waive their immunity.
[01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:41.160]  Every state just about has the same one, that in a case where you are injured by a city
[01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:46.760]  employee operating a motorized piece of equipment owned by the city, the city waives its sovereign
[01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:48.840]  immunity.
[01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:53.920]  They committed this criminal act, and they used a motorized piece of equipment to facilitate
[01:22:53.920 --> 01:23:00.480]  the commission of the crime, and that constituted the due process tort.
[01:23:00.480 --> 01:23:02.920]  You got them.
[01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:03.920]  Okay.
[01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:07.120]  I've only got it at $250,000 right now.
[01:23:07.120 --> 01:23:09.120]  That's not about right?
[01:23:09.120 --> 01:23:14.320]  Yeah, that's a pretty good shot.
[01:23:14.320 --> 01:23:24.280]  But odds are, do you have something on causes of action for Wisconsin?
[01:23:24.280 --> 01:23:25.280]  Oh, yeah.
[01:23:25.280 --> 01:23:26.280]  I've got all sorts of causes of action.
[01:23:26.280 --> 01:23:27.280]  Good, good.
[01:23:27.280 --> 01:23:28.280]  Make sure you're right.
[01:23:28.280 --> 01:23:29.280]  Plenty of causes of action.
[01:23:29.280 --> 01:23:35.880]  I just put together a suit for someone, and I've got about 15 in there for one of those.
[01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:41.160]  I've got five or six, because I wasn't sure what to go with, and I know you can change
[01:23:41.160 --> 01:23:46.800]  it if you want, if they have a problem with your cause of action, but that's done with
[01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:49.640]  as far as the tort letter is concerned at this point.
[01:23:49.640 --> 01:23:52.840]  Oh, the tort letter doesn't mean anything.
[01:23:52.840 --> 01:23:53.840]  Right, right.
[01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:59.400]  But it does give me an extra six months to sue them now, and it is mandatory that you
[01:23:59.400 --> 01:24:03.080]  file a tort letter within six months with these municipalities.
[01:24:03.080 --> 01:24:06.520]  Okay, you don't have to wait now.
[01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.200]  Everywhere else, you've got a year or at least six months.
[01:24:10.200 --> 01:24:16.440]  Okay, since they answered, the clock starts, stops ticking.
[01:24:16.440 --> 01:24:17.440]  Okay.
[01:24:17.440 --> 01:24:20.520]  They've got six months to answer.
[01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:24.600]  Once they've answered, now you can move ahead.
[01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:25.600]  Okay.
[01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:26.600]  Right.
[01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:30.240]  Have you got breach of contract?
[01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:32.320]  Yes.
[01:24:32.320 --> 01:24:39.200]  Have you got common law fraud, fraud pro se?
[01:24:39.200 --> 01:24:41.120]  No.
[01:24:41.120 --> 01:24:42.120]  They look at those.
[01:24:42.120 --> 01:24:45.640]  They defrauded you on your contract.
[01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:54.000]  The employee is entered into a contract with the city, like the police officer, entered
[01:24:54.000 --> 01:25:01.440]  into a contract with the city for which you were the intended third-party beneficiary,
[01:25:01.440 --> 01:25:03.520]  and that's what gives you standing.
[01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:06.360]  So there's a fiduciary contract implied there?
[01:25:06.360 --> 01:25:10.000]  Yes, breach of fiduciary duty as well.
[01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.520]  Yes, there's not implied.
[01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:19.200]  There is an actual contract that he entered into when he swore to his oath and then accepted
[01:25:19.200 --> 01:25:23.840]  consideration in the form of paycheck.
[01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:30.920]  That created the contract, and it created a position of trust on the part of the police
[01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:40.840]  officer for which you were the intended beneficiary, so that gives you standing to sue.
[01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:45.360]  Now, what's going on down there, because I really meant to rattle their cage.
[01:25:45.360 --> 01:25:48.160]  Is their cage rattled right now?
[01:25:48.160 --> 01:25:53.800]  Absolutely, because they said their insurance carrier, you know, that's going to up their
[01:25:53.800 --> 01:26:01.080]  insurance just because they had to go through it.
[01:26:01.080 --> 01:26:03.640]  Let's see, I'm looking through causes of action.
[01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:08.840]  I just did this for someone else, and there were so many.
[01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:15.960]  Fraud by nondisclosure, common law fraud, statutory fraud, you got false imprisonment.
[01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:19.920]  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, where's the fraud?
[01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:20.920]  Oh, I got one on.
[01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:21.920]  Oh, you're going to like this one.
[01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:32.280]  Where the negligent, okay, got negligence per se.
[01:26:32.280 --> 01:26:34.000]  Have you looked at negligence?
[01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:35.000]  No.
[01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:36.000]  Okay.
[01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:45.840]  Randy, are there any causes of action that specifically relate to a minor that we could
[01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:47.160]  try to go after?
[01:26:47.160 --> 01:26:49.320]  No, causes of action won't go that way.
[01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:50.320]  They'll just go to torts.
[01:26:50.320 --> 01:26:51.320]  Okay.
[01:26:51.320 --> 01:26:53.480]  That's what I was looking for.
[01:26:53.480 --> 01:26:57.040]  Negligent entrustment of a motor vehicle.
[01:26:57.040 --> 01:26:58.040]  Okay.
[01:26:58.040 --> 01:27:04.080]  You know, money's always nice, but that's not my ultimate goal here.
[01:27:04.080 --> 01:27:06.080]  Of course not.
[01:27:06.080 --> 01:27:12.880]  What I wanted to do is build some evidence here for a criminal proceeding because I want
[01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:15.600]  this prosecuting attorney's bar card.
[01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:18.160]  Good for you, Mark.
[01:27:18.160 --> 01:27:24.040]  Well, the attorney has a real problem because they had no-
[01:27:24.040 --> 01:27:27.800]  If you recall, Randy, he's the one who said in open court, and I have the tape right here
[01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:33.440]  sitting next to me, that he said that he never had jurisdiction, so he wanted to withdraw
[01:27:33.440 --> 01:27:34.440]  the charges.
[01:27:34.440 --> 01:27:35.440]  That's incredible.
[01:27:35.440 --> 01:27:37.440]  Yeah, that's what I started to say.
[01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:41.800]  He admitted that he never had jurisdiction from the start.
[01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:44.800]  That's incredible.
[01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:53.880]  The thing about all of the action you can take, this is about, it's not about the money.
[01:27:53.880 --> 01:28:00.800]  The money's never the point, but it's generally a tool to reach the point.
[01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:05.120]  If you want to get the city's attention, the way you're going to get it is by reaching
[01:28:05.120 --> 01:28:06.920]  inside their pocket.
[01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:08.200]  Absolutely.
[01:28:08.200 --> 01:28:11.520]  One thing you want to know is how much they're covered for.
[01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:12.520]  Okay.
[01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:14.840]  I really want to tie the mayor up with this.
[01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:19.440]  I was thinking about going to the next city council meeting, and it is taped and showed
[01:28:19.440 --> 01:28:20.640]  on cable.
[01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:24.640]  I was wondering if I could draw him into this, make him aware of the criminal infractions
[01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:29.000]  that were committed by the police, the prosecuting attorney, and the judge, and make him responsible
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:30.720]  to do something about it.
[01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:31.720]  Okay.
[01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.640]  I have some questions you can ask him.
[01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:40.560]  Ask him, is this a strong mayor city?
[01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:43.560]  If it's a strong, do you have a city manager?
[01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:44.920]  I'm not sure about the city.
[01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:46.760]  It's the next city over.
[01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:47.760]  Okay.
[01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:53.360]  If they don't have a city manager, it's a strong mayor.
[01:28:53.360 --> 01:28:58.080]  That makes the mayor respond and superior.
[01:28:58.080 --> 01:29:11.600]  You ask the mayor, at whose pleasure does this chief of police maintain his employment?
[01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:12.600]  Okay.
[01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:13.600]  Who does he work for?
[01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:22.480]  You're looking for... When I'm looking for respondent and superior, I never tell them,
[01:29:22.480 --> 01:29:28.240]  but I try to get them to figure it out by the kinds of questions I ask.
[01:29:28.240 --> 01:29:30.000]  Why don't you want to tell them, Randy?
[01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:33.200]  Well, if I say it, it just sounds like a threat.
[01:29:33.200 --> 01:29:34.200]  Oh, I see.
[01:29:34.200 --> 01:29:38.120]  But if they figure it out, they're going to say, oh, this guy's coming after us.
[01:29:38.120 --> 01:29:39.120]  Okay.
[01:29:39.120 --> 01:29:41.280]  Mark, you want to hang on until the other side of the break?
[01:29:41.280 --> 01:29:42.280]  Yeah.
[01:29:42.280 --> 01:29:43.280]  All right.
[01:29:43.280 --> 01:29:44.280]  We'll be right back.
[01:29:44.280 --> 01:29:45.560]  This is the rule of law on Rule of Law Radio.
[01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:51.840]  Callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:56.040]  We're going to go to Markison, Virginia, after we finish with Mark and with Kirsten.
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[01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:42.520]  All right, listen to the voice of reason.
[01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:47.520]  That's what we are doing right now, trying to listen to the voice of reason.
[01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:51.160]  Speak the voice of reason.
[01:31:51.160 --> 01:31:53.320]  Sanity is the side we like to be on.
[01:31:53.320 --> 01:31:56.360]  Jerry's got such a way with words.
[01:31:56.360 --> 01:31:57.800]  Sanity is the side we want to be on.
[01:31:57.800 --> 01:31:59.800]  These people are insane.
[01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:02.320]  We are speaking with Mark from Wisconsin.
[01:32:02.320 --> 01:32:03.320]  Go ahead, Mark.
[01:32:03.320 --> 01:32:10.600]  Ricky, I've got a full year, I think, to sue civilly, and I don't think I'm really going
[01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:17.000]  after anybody but the prosecuting attorney, so you're saying, sue the city first?
[01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:20.520]  If I sue the city first, it'll probably still be in litigation during the time that I need
[01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:26.120]  to file civilly against the prosecuting attorney, so how does that work?
[01:32:26.120 --> 01:32:35.240]  Oh, you include the prosecuting attorney in the suit, but see, the thing is that you focus
[01:32:35.240 --> 01:32:37.680]  all your accusations on the prosecutor.
[01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:42.000]  What I mean, Randy, is I'm going to sue the prosecuting attorney personally, too.
[01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:43.480]  Yeah, you sue him personally.
[01:32:43.480 --> 01:32:52.920]  That's the only way you can, because you can't sue him in his official capacity because he
[01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:54.640]  had no subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:57.360]  He didn't have official capacity.
[01:32:57.360 --> 01:33:01.480]  What I'm saying is these two separate litigations are going to crash into each other at some
[01:33:01.480 --> 01:33:03.480]  point, and how do you handle that?
[01:33:03.480 --> 01:33:04.480]  No, no, I'm saying you can't.
[01:33:04.480 --> 01:33:05.480]  You can't have two litigations.
[01:33:05.480 --> 01:33:07.400]  It has to be one.
[01:33:07.400 --> 01:33:15.320]  When you sue, you have to name all the parties and all the issues arising out of the circumstance.
[01:33:15.320 --> 01:33:17.640]  You can't sue separately.
[01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:21.560]  What I'm saying is I'm going to sue the city, and then I'm planning on suing the prosecuting
[01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:22.560]  attorney personally.
[01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:23.560]  You can't.
[01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:24.560]  You can't.
[01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:25.560]  I can't?
[01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:27.320]  You can't sue him separately.
[01:33:27.320 --> 01:33:31.040]  You can sue him personally, but it's in the same suit.
[01:33:31.040 --> 01:33:32.040]  Oh, really?
[01:33:32.040 --> 01:33:34.000]  Okay, I can do that, huh?
[01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:35.000]  Right, yeah.
[01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:36.000]  You have to name everybody.
[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:41.560]  You know, if I have three people involved in creating a tort against me, I can't sue
[01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:44.200]  two of them and then sue the other one.
[01:33:44.200 --> 01:33:51.640]  I have to do all of it at once, but you name him personally in the suit, and you name the
[01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:52.640]  mayor personally.
[01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:53.640]  Okay.
[01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:56.880]  I think I'm going to leave the police out of it because they're following a policy
[01:33:56.880 --> 01:33:57.880]  and procedure.
[01:33:57.880 --> 01:33:58.880]  No, you can't.
[01:33:58.880 --> 01:33:59.880]  You can't.
[01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:01.880]  Well, personally, I can, right?
[01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:11.000]  Personally, you can drop the suit, but it would weaken your suit.
[01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:19.320]  The point is make everybody mad at the prosecuting attorney for getting them into this mess.
[01:34:19.320 --> 01:34:22.040]  If you recall, Randy, this is the prosecuting attorney.
[01:34:22.040 --> 01:34:26.280]  The first time I sat down with him, I told him I read the code.
[01:34:26.280 --> 01:34:27.280]  You don't have a case.
[01:34:27.280 --> 01:34:29.880]  Leave us alone, and we'll leave you alone.
[01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:33.120]  He said, oh, you can read right in front of my son.
[01:34:33.120 --> 01:34:34.120]  Oh, good.
[01:34:34.120 --> 01:34:35.120]  Okay.
[01:34:35.120 --> 01:34:36.120]  I want this guy.
[01:34:36.120 --> 01:34:38.120]  I want him bad.
[01:34:38.120 --> 01:34:43.080]  Okay, so use the police.
[01:34:43.080 --> 01:34:45.040]  Get the police mad at him.
[01:34:45.040 --> 01:34:47.600]  Oh, I'm sure they're already mad at him.
[01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:54.000]  Well, if you sue the policeman and make it clear in your suit that you're suing the policeman
[01:34:54.000 --> 01:35:01.320]  for following the direction of the prosecuting attorney, and you sue the mayor as respondent
[01:35:01.320 --> 01:35:10.680]  superior for the prosecuting attorney, and you sue the judge, the prosecutor's the one
[01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:14.160]  that brought the bogus case to the judge.
[01:35:14.160 --> 01:35:18.720]  Now the judge is getting sued personally because of what the prosecutor did, and you blame
[01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:24.040]  everything on the prosecutor and claim these guys as collateral damage.
[01:35:24.040 --> 01:35:29.880]  Yeah, and then what's going to happen is the judge is going to counter sue the prosecutor
[01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:32.960]  for getting him into this mess.
[01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:36.160]  That's right.
[01:35:36.160 --> 01:35:37.640]  They all will.
[01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:41.760]  Yeah, that's what I did in my writ.
[01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:47.760]  I accused all of these people of doing things, but if you go through the writ, through the
[01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:54.760]  whole thing, I blame the prosecutor for setting them all up, because that's precisely what
[01:35:54.760 --> 01:36:00.680]  the writ was about, to get everybody to look at the prosecutor and say, what did you get
[01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:02.960]  us into?
[01:36:02.960 --> 01:36:09.960]  I accused the prosecutor of giving legal advice to the police and the lower courts, and then
[01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:17.240]  I accused the police and lower courts of conspiracy for doing what the prosecutor told them to
[01:36:17.240 --> 01:36:23.040]  do, and everything is about getting everybody mad at the prosecutor.
[01:36:23.040 --> 01:36:25.840]  Well, it's all his fault anyway.
[01:36:25.840 --> 01:36:26.840]  Yeah.
[01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:33.840]  So I would sue everybody involved and blame it all on the prosecuting attorney.
[01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:34.840]  Absolutely.
[01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:42.760]  And you go to the policeman, man, I am sorry I had to do this, but since you were one of
[01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.960]  the parties, I had to keep you in the suit, otherwise...
[01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:51.560]  Well, look, we've got to slap down this prosecuting attorney, all of them, because they're the
[01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:56.800]  ones that are leading this whole mess, okay?
[01:36:56.800 --> 01:37:05.680]  I mean, it's because of them and the policies that they implement and the way they do things,
[01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:08.560]  that's the reason everything that they're doing is illegal.
[01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:17.480]  Oh, and one thing you have to put in your motion, that you are a credible person, that
[01:37:17.480 --> 01:37:27.560]  you have been harmed, however fortunately you're still able to read, and what I read
[01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:28.560]  is this.
[01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:34.960]  I've already been kind of pointing the finger pretty much at the prosecuting attorney when
[01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:43.720]  I put in my tort letter for the mayor, I said that he's responded superior and that his
[01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:50.400]  city attorney, as a viper, has committed many crimes, and I listed all the statutes that
[01:37:50.400 --> 01:37:55.400]  he's committed, and I said, you are responsible for this man, this man is making your city
[01:37:55.400 --> 01:37:57.680]  look bad and that sort of thing.
[01:37:57.680 --> 01:37:58.680]  Good, good.
[01:37:58.680 --> 01:37:59.680]  Good for you.
[01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:07.440]  And you actually sue the mayor personally, that will really get his attention.
[01:38:07.440 --> 01:38:08.440]  Right.
[01:38:08.440 --> 01:38:19.560]  And this thing of, the stupid prosecutor actually admitting, and one of the things is file a
[01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:22.840]  judicial notice.
[01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:28.840]  You can file the admission of no subject matter jurisdiction as judicial notice, not something
[01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:36.640]  that can be argued, because he admitted it in court.
[01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:42.760]  That's right, that's right, there's all kinds of ways to get these guys, because they just
[01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:46.760]  make so many mistakes all over the place, they're just falling all over themselves everywhere.
[01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:51.640]  I mean it's like, you know, you don't have to look that hard really.
[01:38:51.640 --> 01:39:00.440]  This moron institutes a bogus suit and then comes into court and gives you what you need
[01:39:00.440 --> 01:39:02.400]  to crucify everybody with.
[01:39:02.400 --> 01:39:05.440]  They're going to hate this guy.
[01:39:05.440 --> 01:39:07.920]  How many bar grievances have you filed against him?
[01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:11.720]  I haven't filed any yet, I've been waiting for their response.
[01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:15.880]  I talked to my brother-in-law, he's an attorney, and he said there's a certification board
[01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:22.680]  for the bar too, and he said they really smash heads for this sort of conduct.
[01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:23.680]  Oh right.
[01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:27.280]  Oh good, you may actually have a real state bar then.
[01:39:27.280 --> 01:39:28.280]  Yeah really?
[01:39:28.280 --> 01:39:31.920]  Yeah, yeah, he said they really go after him, they don't like it.
[01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:32.920]  Good, then.
[01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:40.760]  Well, what happens is it exposes the whole, you know, attorney community to what's going,
[01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:45.000]  you know, it exposes, people get to see what these attorneys are up to, and they don't
[01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:46.000]  like that.
[01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:52.160]  Yeah, they want to, yeah, it exposes, exactly, it exposes the whole scam, so they don't like
[01:39:52.160 --> 01:39:54.000]  it when they get flagrant.
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:58.240]  Really, I don't think it's the fact that he's doing things wrong, I think it's the fact
[01:39:58.240 --> 01:40:00.000]  that he's exposed in public.
[01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:01.000]  Exactly.
[01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.200]  That really bothers him.
[01:40:03.200 --> 01:40:06.800]  And he's done something really stupid, admitting that he had no subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:09.640]  Good Lord, I mean, what was this guy thinking?
[01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:10.640]  On the record in court?
[01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:11.640]  Yeah, he's a retard.
[01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:22.360]  Can you believe this, two minutes before court started, and he knew he was going to withdraw
[01:40:22.360 --> 01:40:27.640]  the charges, he still came up and offered us a plea bargain, he says, if you plead guilty
[01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:33.720]  to this charge, I'll drop the other charge, and my son laughed at him, and I told him
[01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:37.120]  to get away from me.
[01:40:37.120 --> 01:40:38.840]  Snake oil salesman.
[01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:47.840]  Well, if you sue everybody, you can always ask the court to dismiss one of the litigants
[01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:48.840]  later.
[01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:49.840]  Oh yeah.
[01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:57.960]  At any time you want to, and like if, this is what I did with that big suit, is when
[01:40:57.960 --> 01:41:04.240]  their attorney got all the litigants to perjure themselves, where I accused them of doing
[01:41:04.240 --> 01:41:10.200]  things I could prove by the court record, and then they gave an answer and denied all
[01:41:10.200 --> 01:41:12.400]  allegations by Kelton.
[01:41:12.400 --> 01:41:17.160]  Well, I could prove that the allegations were true by the court record.
[01:41:17.160 --> 01:41:23.200]  I told the court, I filed a suit to write a civil wrong, not to harm anyone.
[01:41:23.200 --> 01:41:29.160]  And the attorney here encouraged all these litigants to commit perjury.
[01:41:29.160 --> 01:41:30.720]  I don't want to go after them for perjury.
[01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:40.160]  So I'm going to ask you to direct the defendants to strike their answer and direct them to
[01:41:40.160 --> 01:41:43.480]  file an answer that's not perjurious.
[01:41:43.480 --> 01:41:46.060]  And the judge refused.
[01:41:46.060 --> 01:41:50.480]  So I told the judge, I promised one of the clerks that I would not allow this suit to
[01:41:50.480 --> 01:41:52.240]  harm her.
[01:41:52.240 --> 01:41:54.080]  So I'm left in a moral dilemma.
[01:41:54.080 --> 01:41:58.000]  I told him I am impaled on the horns of a thorny dilemma.
[01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.200]  Oh boy.
[01:42:00.200 --> 01:42:05.280]  I have no option but to ask the court to dismiss without prejudice.
[01:42:05.280 --> 01:42:09.400]  $11 million suit, he dismissed it without prejudice.
[01:42:09.400 --> 01:42:11.440]  Well, that's okay, Randy.
[01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:14.520]  We're going to bank when we sue Williamson County.
[01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:15.520]  Yeah.
[01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:17.880]  I would have never won that suit anyway, because I didn't file it right.
[01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:21.000]  But this one next would have been filed right, but it made me look good.
[01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:29.420]  So when you get in there, and one of the things you can do is ask the court to dismiss the
[01:42:29.420 --> 01:42:38.120]  arresting officer, because he was acting on examining the record, it is your consideration
[01:42:38.120 --> 01:42:43.940]  that he was acting in good faith reliance on competent authority, on bad information
[01:42:43.940 --> 01:42:50.040]  he got from this attorney, and it's inappropriate to punish this officer for doing what he thought
[01:42:50.040 --> 01:42:51.040]  was right.
[01:42:51.040 --> 01:42:52.040]  Yeah.
[01:42:52.040 --> 01:42:53.040]  And then he'll go, oh, whew.
[01:42:53.040 --> 01:42:54.440]  And then he'll be really careful next time.
[01:42:54.440 --> 01:42:57.160]  And he'll say, what a great guy.
[01:42:57.160 --> 01:43:04.000]  And then all of a sudden you look magnimonious and want to do the right thing, and it's just
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:10.200]  a scummy, graft-taking prosecutor that caused all this problem.
[01:43:10.200 --> 01:43:11.200]  Yeah, really.
[01:43:11.200 --> 01:43:13.200]  And they all know it too.
[01:43:13.200 --> 01:43:14.680]  Yeah, they do.
[01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:17.200]  Well, they haven't been stung good.
[01:43:17.200 --> 01:43:19.200]  Oh, they're going to get stung this time.
[01:43:19.200 --> 01:43:22.440]  Do you think I should get an attorney too so I can thank you?
[01:43:22.440 --> 01:43:23.440]  Not yet.
[01:43:23.440 --> 01:43:25.440]  Not yet.
[01:43:25.440 --> 01:43:27.560]  You go in and beat the crap ola out of them.
[01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:30.640]  You see, an attorney's going to have all of these professional courtesies.
[01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:32.840]  Yeah, an attorney's not going to file any of these things.
[01:43:32.840 --> 01:43:36.840]  Yeah, you don't have to give them any professional courtesies, just get that crap out of them.
[01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:38.840]  At this point, I think it would hinder you.
[01:43:38.840 --> 01:43:42.240]  Yeah, and when you're about done, then you call in your attorney and let him ride in
[01:43:42.240 --> 01:43:44.240]  on his white horse and make a deal.
[01:43:44.240 --> 01:43:45.240]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:43:45.240 --> 01:43:46.240]  That's right.
[01:43:46.240 --> 01:43:50.240]  That sounds like a plan to me.
[01:43:50.240 --> 01:43:51.240]  Exactly.
[01:43:51.240 --> 01:43:55.640]  Because if you get the attorney now, he's not going to file any of these things and
[01:43:55.640 --> 01:44:00.080]  it'll end up being a hindrance to you because when he doesn't file them, then you're going
[01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:04.640]  to have to file bar grievances against them and he's going to want to be released from
[01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:09.800]  the case and then you're going to have to tell the judge, no, you have a contract with
[01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:12.240]  them and try to force them into it.
[01:44:12.240 --> 01:44:16.240]  Just do it yourself and have him make the deal later.
[01:44:16.240 --> 01:44:21.240]  If you know an attorney, you can tell him what you want to do.
[01:44:21.240 --> 01:44:22.800]  Probably won't do it though.
[01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:27.360]  Yeah, he may because then he gets to be the good guy.
[01:44:27.360 --> 01:44:30.480]  This is what I'm setting up with the litigation engine.
[01:44:30.480 --> 01:44:34.880]  We're going to go in and beat the crap out of them, criminal complaints, bar grievances,
[01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:40.240]  key close complaints, everything we can think of and then after we beat them up real good,
[01:44:40.240 --> 01:44:46.960]  then the attorney rides in on his white horse, hey guys, I just got hired to handle this
[01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.280]  case and retained.
[01:44:49.280 --> 01:44:52.240]  I'm sorry they did all this crap all the time.
[01:44:52.240 --> 01:44:59.120]  Look at this, these pro-says, they just don't know how it works.
[01:44:59.120 --> 01:45:00.120]  They got no respect.
[01:45:00.120 --> 01:45:01.120]  Right.
[01:45:01.120 --> 01:45:02.120]  They got no respect.
[01:45:02.120 --> 01:45:04.560]  Let me help you out here.
[01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:07.040]  Let me get these guys off your case.
[01:45:07.040 --> 01:45:09.000]  Let's make a deal, Bubba.
[01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:12.440]  Well, that's exactly what the prosecutor does.
[01:45:12.440 --> 01:45:13.440]  Yes, they do.
[01:45:13.440 --> 01:45:18.440]  Well, two can play at that game.
[01:45:18.440 --> 01:45:20.960]  I've got some questions for Russell.
[01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:22.760]  He can contact me at webmasteratsurvivorseeds.com.
[01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:28.640]  I've got some questions, I want to see if I can help some people avoid foreclosure and
[01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:34.160]  I wanted to find out about- Webmasteratsurvivorseeds.com.
[01:45:34.160 --> 01:45:35.440]  Is that your company, Mark?
[01:45:35.440 --> 01:45:39.080]  Yes, it's about to go up in two weeks but the e-mail is open right now.
[01:45:39.080 --> 01:45:43.320]  Would you like- Okay, I'd like to talk to you about being a sponsor too.
[01:45:43.320 --> 01:45:44.320]  You better believe it.
[01:45:44.320 --> 01:45:45.320]  All right.
[01:45:45.320 --> 01:45:46.320]  Yes.
[01:45:46.320 --> 01:45:52.680]  I was going to mention from an earlier conversation you guys had tonight, ADL, Benai Baris has
[01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:53.680]  a Masonic Charter.
[01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:58.040]  I don't know if a lot of people aren't aware of that and Benai Baris means Brothers of
[01:45:58.040 --> 01:45:59.040]  the Cut.
[01:45:59.040 --> 01:46:00.040]  Oh my good.
[01:46:00.040 --> 01:46:01.760]  Well, it doesn't surprise me at all.
[01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:06.320]  In this Mark Kornke, I have caught passing Masonic Code over his program before.
[01:46:06.320 --> 01:46:07.320]  Oh really?
[01:46:07.320 --> 01:46:11.600]  It's interesting to see this dialectic play out.
[01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:12.600]  That's interesting.
[01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:18.000]  He seemed pretty much on the up and up to me but at this point from everything I've
[01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:21.800]  seen and learned in the last like five, ten years, I believe anything.
[01:46:21.800 --> 01:46:22.800]  Me too.
[01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:27.320]  Hey, you guys keep up the good work.
[01:46:27.320 --> 01:46:28.320]  All right.
[01:46:28.320 --> 01:46:29.680]  I appreciate everything you do.
[01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:34.200]  Thank you Mark and thank you again for being our affiliate and I will get those archives
[01:46:34.200 --> 01:46:37.920]  posted about within an hour after the show.
[01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:38.920]  No problem.
[01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:39.920]  I love you guys.
[01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:40.920]  Okay.
[01:46:40.920 --> 01:46:41.920]  You too.
[01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:42.920]  Bye-bye.
[01:46:42.920 --> 01:46:43.920]  All right.
[01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:44.920]  We've got two more callers on the line.
[01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:46.260]  We probably just barely have enough time to take those two.
[01:46:46.260 --> 01:46:47.600]  We have Marcus from Virginia.
[01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:48.880]  He was on first.
[01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:53.880]  We also have, it looks like a new caller, first time caller into the show, Skylar from
[01:46:53.880 --> 01:46:54.880]  Texas.
[01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:58.040]  Skylar, you will be right up next after Marcus.
[01:46:58.040 --> 01:46:59.040]  So hang on Skylar.
[01:46:59.040 --> 01:47:00.040]  We're going to Marcus now.
[01:47:00.040 --> 01:47:01.040]  Hey Marcus, thanks for calling in.
[01:47:01.040 --> 01:47:02.040]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:47:02.040 --> 01:47:03.040]  Hi, Dev.
[01:47:03.040 --> 01:47:11.040]  Yeah, this is about the, well, Randy told me to call back about imperimateria in my
[01:47:11.040 --> 01:47:14.680]  traffic case.
[01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:17.720]  Can you kind of bring us back up to speed?
[01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:18.720]  Okay.
[01:47:18.720 --> 01:47:24.840]  Well, they charged me with no license but there's another rule at the beginning of the
[01:47:24.840 --> 01:47:36.480]  letter vehicle title, rule 101, to go to applicability and it says applicability of the title to
[01:47:36.480 --> 01:47:39.920]  vehicles on certain toll roads and parking facilities.
[01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:45.520]  In other words, the title doesn't apply otherwise.
[01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:53.560]  And there's a case that says, let's see, the letter vehicle code must be, the provisions
[01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:56.920]  of which must be read as a whole.
[01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:02.480]  So I want to bring that rule into the case here.
[01:48:02.480 --> 01:48:03.480]  What's the nature of the case?
[01:48:03.480 --> 01:48:04.480]  Did she get a citation?
[01:48:04.480 --> 01:48:13.960]  Yeah, I went through a stop sign but they also charged me with no license.
[01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:17.040]  And you're going for right to travel jurisdiction?
[01:48:17.040 --> 01:48:23.720]  Not just the right to travel but the right to drive.
[01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:27.400]  I'm not arguing with the police power, by the way.
[01:48:27.400 --> 01:48:35.320]  They say that they can, in the same case, actually, it says, the operation of the motor
[01:48:35.320 --> 01:48:42.040]  vehicle on such highways is not a natural right, it is a conditional privilege which
[01:48:42.040 --> 01:48:47.720]  may be suspended or revoked under the police power.
[01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:48.720]  Such highways?
[01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:52.400]  Police men did tow my vehicle and I'm not arguing with that.
[01:48:52.400 --> 01:49:01.520]  What I'm arguing with is, you know, having them prosecute me civilly or criminally after
[01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:02.520]  that.
[01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:03.520]  Okay, I'm...
[01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:06.520]  Do you see what I'm saying?
[01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:09.520]  No, I'm missing something.
[01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:12.440]  Okay, they towed your vehicle?
[01:49:12.440 --> 01:49:14.400]  Yeah, they towed it.
[01:49:14.400 --> 01:49:15.400]  Where was it?
[01:49:15.400 --> 01:49:16.400]  The police...
[01:49:16.400 --> 01:49:17.400]  Where was it?
[01:49:17.400 --> 01:49:18.400]  Intersection.
[01:49:18.400 --> 01:49:24.880]  Was it on a toll road or some limited access road?
[01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:26.360]  No, no.
[01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:27.680]  Oh, okay.
[01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:31.400]  No parking facility, no toll facility.
[01:49:31.400 --> 01:49:34.400]  Just an average residential road.
[01:49:34.400 --> 01:49:35.400]  Well, I don't understand.
[01:49:35.400 --> 01:49:37.080]  Were there like no parking signs or something?
[01:49:37.080 --> 01:49:38.080]  Why did they tow it?
[01:49:38.080 --> 01:49:44.760]  Because, you know, I went through a stop sign, I had the sign in my eyes just for a second
[01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:46.760]  or two and I just missed it.
[01:49:46.760 --> 01:49:47.760]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:48.760]  Are you...
[01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:53.080]  Oh, you're saying that they wouldn't let you drive anymore after you got pulled over and
[01:49:53.080 --> 01:49:54.760]  they took your car?
[01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:55.760]  Or they arrested you?
[01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:56.760]  No, they didn't arrest me, okay.
[01:49:56.760 --> 01:49:57.760]  They just towed my vehicle.
[01:49:57.760 --> 01:50:02.760]  So what, they just left you on the side of the road there?
[01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:03.760]  Oh.
[01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:07.800]  Well, they let me ride with a tow truck driver.
[01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:08.800]  So oh, because...
[01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:09.800]  It cost me $128.
[01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:11.800]  Why did they tow the vehicle?
[01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:13.800]  Because you didn't have a license?
[01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:14.800]  Right.
[01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:15.800]  They didn't give you...
[01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:16.800]  I'm not arguing with that, okay.
[01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:17.800]  No.
[01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:25.320]  What I'm arguing with is having to pay this extra $500 that the judge says, you know,
[01:50:25.320 --> 01:50:28.920]  he imposes on me.
[01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:32.160]  So are you, how are you making the argument?
[01:50:32.160 --> 01:50:33.160]  Double jeopardy?
[01:50:33.160 --> 01:50:44.160]  Well, actually, I argued, let's see, well, I made a motion to dismiss from mootness.
[01:50:44.160 --> 01:50:45.160]  Moot?
[01:50:45.160 --> 01:50:46.160]  Yeah.
[01:50:46.160 --> 01:50:50.160]  The situation has already been handled.
[01:50:50.160 --> 01:50:58.800]  There's no need to, you know, further take action against me.
[01:50:58.800 --> 01:50:59.800]  How are you getting there?
[01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:04.480]  Are you saying you're already punished by having to pay the exorbitant towing fee?
[01:51:04.480 --> 01:51:05.480]  Yeah.
[01:51:05.480 --> 01:51:12.120]  I mean, they took my vehicle to my house and they charged me for it.
[01:51:12.120 --> 01:51:16.040]  So as far as I'm concerned, they didn't resolve.
[01:51:16.040 --> 01:51:24.040]  Did they give you opportunity to allow someone else to secure your vehicle?
[01:51:24.040 --> 01:51:25.040]  Yeah.
[01:51:25.040 --> 01:51:29.360]  I was going to say you could have called a friend to come pick you up or called two people
[01:51:29.360 --> 01:51:34.680]  to come pick you up and one of the people drives your car back and you ride with somebody
[01:51:34.680 --> 01:51:35.680]  else.
[01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:36.680]  I mean, they didn't have to call a tow truck.
[01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:37.680]  Yeah.
[01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:41.600]  Did they give you opportunity to do that?
[01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:49.000]  They called my wife, but the purpose was to identify me.
[01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:52.720]  It had nothing to do with how I was, you know, talking to people.
[01:51:52.720 --> 01:51:59.400]  So they did not give you an opportunity to properly remove your vehicle from the site
[01:51:59.400 --> 01:52:01.760]  and get yourself elsewhere.
[01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:06.720]  So then they, they caused you this punishment.
[01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:11.200]  I would, the only, the, the, the best way I see is, is double jeopardy.
[01:52:11.200 --> 01:52:15.680]  You've already been punished once, it's inappropriate to punish you again.
[01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:16.680]  Right.
[01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:20.280]  What, what, what is the $500 fine for anyway?
[01:52:20.280 --> 01:52:23.040]  No driver's license.
[01:52:23.040 --> 01:52:28.040]  Well see to me, I mean, that's a big fun.
[01:52:28.040 --> 01:52:29.040]  Yeah.
[01:52:29.040 --> 01:52:33.600]  It kind of seems to me like the, what they really did wrong.
[01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:37.040]  I mean, if you don't have a driver's license and the statute says they can charge you $500
[01:52:37.040 --> 01:52:41.400]  for not having a driver's license, I don't really see how Marcus is going to get around
[01:52:41.400 --> 01:52:42.400]  that Randy.
[01:52:42.400 --> 01:52:49.040]  But, but what the real wrong here is on their part is that they did not give him opportunity
[01:52:49.040 --> 01:52:56.000]  to remove his vehicle by, by his own means that would not have cost him any money.
[01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  Okay.
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:58.000]  Here, see.
[01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:03.840]  I would sue, I would sue for the, for the, the compensation that it, for the, having
[01:53:03.840 --> 01:53:04.840]  to pay the tow truck.
[01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:06.640]  Now there's another issue here.
[01:53:06.640 --> 01:53:07.640]  What?
[01:53:07.640 --> 01:53:09.880]  They cost him this money as punishment.
[01:53:09.880 --> 01:53:10.880]  Oh.
[01:53:10.880 --> 01:53:13.800]  And now they're trying to punish him again.
[01:53:13.800 --> 01:53:14.800]  Okay.
[01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:15.800]  So it does go to double jeopardy then.
[01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:20.480]  Right, but they didn't give him opportunity to secure his vehicle.
[01:53:20.480 --> 01:53:21.480]  Right.
[01:53:21.480 --> 01:53:24.560]  They just took it so they punished him.
[01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:25.560]  Right.
[01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:28.760]  And now once they punish him once, they want to go back and punish him again.
[01:53:28.760 --> 01:53:31.760]  Okay, double jeopardy, yep.
[01:53:31.760 --> 01:53:35.320]  That's the best angle I can see if you're, if you're not going to go for, if there's
[01:53:35.320 --> 01:53:38.080]  not other due process violations.
[01:53:38.080 --> 01:53:43.320]  Like in Texas, if they write the ticket, it has to state a date and time to appear before
[01:53:43.320 --> 01:53:44.320]  magistrate.
[01:53:44.320 --> 01:53:46.760]  That's one of the ways we're attacking it here.
[01:53:46.760 --> 01:53:47.760]  Right.
[01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:52.440]  There's a lot of other issues to attack traffic tickets for.
[01:53:52.440 --> 01:53:53.440]  I'm just not sure.
[01:53:53.440 --> 01:53:54.440]  All right.
[01:53:54.440 --> 01:53:57.200]  And listen, listen, we've only got, we've only got barely five minutes left and I wanted
[01:53:57.200 --> 01:53:58.200]  to go to Skyler.
[01:53:58.200 --> 01:53:59.200]  He's a new caller.
[01:53:59.200 --> 01:54:00.200]  Okay.
[01:54:00.200 --> 01:54:01.200]  Thank you, Marcus.
[01:54:01.200 --> 01:54:02.200]  Yeah.
[01:54:02.200 --> 01:54:06.640]  Marcus, call, call back in on Monday because this, so that we can talk about a little bit
[01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:07.640]  more in depth.
[01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:08.640]  But, but yeah.
[01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:11.680]  He really didn't get a chance to address the impairment area though.
[01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:12.680]  Oh, okay.
[01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:13.680]  Okay.
[01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:14.680]  Okay.
[01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:15.680]  Go ahead and do that.
[01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:16.680]  If we can do that quickly.
[01:54:16.680 --> 01:54:17.680]  I just.
[01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:19.480]  I just hate to blow off brand new caller.
[01:54:19.480 --> 01:54:20.480]  Yeah.
[01:54:20.480 --> 01:54:21.480]  Yeah.
[01:54:21.480 --> 01:54:23.480]  Well, I mean, I just want to address.
[01:54:23.480 --> 01:54:24.480]  Yeah.
[01:54:24.480 --> 01:54:25.480]  Yeah.
[01:54:25.480 --> 01:54:26.480]  Let's do that.
[01:54:26.480 --> 01:54:27.480]  Okay.
[01:54:27.480 --> 01:54:29.880]  We'll take you sooner because this is a little more complex issue.
[01:54:29.880 --> 01:54:33.960]  I need, in order to do the impairment area, I need to know the statutes around.
[01:54:33.960 --> 01:54:34.960]  We have four minutes.
[01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:36.960]  There's no time for impairment area right now.
[01:54:36.960 --> 01:54:37.960]  Yeah.
[01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:38.960]  I know.
[01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:39.960]  Let's, let's do that Monday.
[01:54:39.960 --> 01:54:40.960]  Can you call him Monday?
[01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:41.960]  Okay.
[01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:42.960]  Sure.
[01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:43.960]  Monday.
[01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:44.960]  No, Monday I have a guest.
[01:54:44.960 --> 01:54:45.960]  Thursday.
[01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:46.960]  Okay.
[01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:47.960]  All right.
[01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:48.960]  Thursday.
[01:54:48.960 --> 01:54:49.960]  Okay.
[01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:50.960]  Okay.
[01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:51.960]  All right.
[01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:52.960]  Thanks.
[01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:53.960]  All right.
[01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:54.960]  Thank you.
[01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:55.960]  Okay.
[01:54:55.960 --> 01:54:56.960]  All right.
[01:54:56.960 --> 01:54:57.960]  We're going to Skylar now.
[01:54:57.960 --> 01:54:58.960]  I'm sorry.
[01:54:58.960 --> 01:54:59.960]  We're running out of time again, even though we have four, four hour show.
[01:54:59.960 --> 01:55:00.960]  Skylar, thanks for calling in.
[01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:01.960]  New caller.
[01:55:01.960 --> 01:55:02.960]  Thank you.
[01:55:02.960 --> 01:55:03.960]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:55:03.960 --> 01:55:04.960]  Oh, nothing much.
[01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:10.960]  Just got a, got a couple roommates who live with me in my house in Round Rock and Williamson
[01:55:10.960 --> 01:55:11.960]  County, by the way.
[01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:12.960]  Yeah.
[01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:18.440]  And they dropped me or they dropped off my roommate, a little ticket in his window for
[01:55:18.440 --> 01:55:23.720]  being parked in my yard, but he had one tire on my grass.
[01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:27.880]  And they gave him a ticket and he's got a court date set for Hitler's birthday of this
[01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:28.880]  year.
[01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:35.240]  And I just wanted to know what we could do about that because it's, it's to me, it's
[01:55:35.240 --> 01:55:41.200]  complete another BS because he's got one tire in my yard and there's three cars in the small
[01:55:41.200 --> 01:55:42.200]  driveway.
[01:55:42.200 --> 01:55:46.520]  And I don't, it's a small fine, I'm sure.
[01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:47.520]  I don't know.
[01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:51.520]  There's no specifics on the fine on the back of the white paper he left behind.
[01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:56.760]  There's no signature from the owner of the vehicle, just, just some guy dropped it off
[01:55:56.760 --> 01:55:57.760]  there.
[01:55:57.760 --> 01:55:59.480]  Some cop dropped it off at 5.30 in the morning and...
[01:55:59.480 --> 01:56:06.920]  Did the citation state a date and time to appear?
[01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:07.920]  Yeah.
[01:56:07.920 --> 01:56:10.920]  4.20 of this year.
[01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:14.880]  But it probably says on the ticket to appear on or before.
[01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:16.880]  Yeah, I believe it does.
[01:56:16.880 --> 01:56:19.480]  I don't have the ticket right in front of me right now.
[01:56:19.480 --> 01:56:20.480]  Oh, goody.
[01:56:20.480 --> 01:56:22.480]  If it says on or before, then it's bogus.
[01:56:22.480 --> 01:56:27.080]  They have, according to statute, they have to state a specific date and time.
[01:56:27.080 --> 01:56:29.760]  They can't just give you a time frame, like a range.
[01:56:29.760 --> 01:56:33.680]  Wait, this is a parking ticket and I'd have to go look.
[01:56:33.680 --> 01:56:37.240]  I suspect there's going to be special statute for parking tickets.
[01:56:37.240 --> 01:56:38.240]  Oh, for parking tickets.
[01:56:38.240 --> 01:56:40.520]  There probably is special statutes for parking tickets.
[01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:42.960]  Because you weren't arrested.
[01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:50.400]  Skyler, look up the Texas transportation code online and find the section that addresses
[01:56:50.400 --> 01:56:53.400]  parking tickets.
[01:56:53.400 --> 01:57:01.200]  A parking ticket is kind of like these intersection cameras.
[01:57:01.200 --> 01:57:06.000]  It's punishment by... It's prosecution by ownership.
[01:57:06.000 --> 01:57:07.000]  Yeah.
[01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:14.040]  I'm sure it's an issue we haven't addressed, but I'm sure there's a special statute on
[01:57:14.040 --> 01:57:15.040]  that issue.
[01:57:15.040 --> 01:57:18.960]  But it was in my yard and it was only one tire.
[01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:20.280]  He wasn't parked in the yard.
[01:57:20.280 --> 01:57:27.680]  How have they given him a parking ticket when this is a private residence?
[01:57:27.680 --> 01:57:28.680]  Thank you.
[01:57:28.680 --> 01:57:29.680]  That's what I was going to say.
[01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:30.680]  I don't get that.
[01:57:30.680 --> 01:57:31.680]  It's going to be... There's a...
[01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:32.680]  Williamson County.
[01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:35.320]  Well, there's probably some city ordinances or something.
[01:57:35.320 --> 01:57:38.000]  It's parking in the yard.
[01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:43.200]  So you need to find the definition of parking in the yard.
[01:57:43.200 --> 01:57:45.600]  All right.
[01:57:45.600 --> 01:57:52.640]  But the problem with trying to take a ticket and argue the merits is the judge will rule
[01:57:52.640 --> 01:57:53.880]  against you out of hand.
[01:57:53.880 --> 01:57:54.880]  We'll see.
[01:57:54.880 --> 01:58:02.480]  Also, this parking ticket thing, if this is defined by city ordinance, then you have to
[01:58:02.480 --> 01:58:07.280]  look at how that matches up with the transportation code too.
[01:58:07.280 --> 01:58:13.760]  You may have to look at the Round Rock City Ordinance definition of what their parking
[01:58:13.760 --> 01:58:14.760]  ordinances are.
[01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:18.720]  Try to do a little bit of research and call us back, Skylar, and we'll do some research
[01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:19.720]  too.
[01:58:19.720 --> 01:58:20.720]  We'll get to the bottom of this.
[01:58:20.720 --> 01:58:21.720]  Okay.
[01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:22.720]  Make them give you a jury trial.
[01:58:22.720 --> 01:58:23.720]  Jury trial.
[01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:24.720]  That's what I'm thinking too.
[01:58:24.720 --> 01:58:25.720]  That'll be a hoot.
[01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:26.720]  All right, Skylar.
[01:58:26.720 --> 01:58:27.720]  Do that research.
[01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:33.240]  Look up Round Rock City Ordinances about parking and also the Texas Transportation Code.
[01:58:33.240 --> 01:58:34.240]  Okay?
[01:58:34.240 --> 01:58:36.840]  Besides, it's their word against yours.
[01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:38.840]  What are you talking about?
[01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:40.880]  He didn't have a tire in the grass.
[01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:41.880]  That's nonsense.
[01:58:41.880 --> 01:58:42.880]  That's so ridiculous.
[01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:44.520]  It's your house.
[01:58:44.520 --> 01:58:45.920]  Parking ticket in your front yard.
[01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:46.920]  All right.
[01:58:46.920 --> 01:58:48.760]  Listen, we are at the end of the show.
[01:58:48.760 --> 01:58:50.360]  We only have a few seconds left.
[01:58:50.360 --> 01:58:51.360]  Thank you, Skylar.
[01:58:51.360 --> 01:58:52.840]  When can I call y'all next?
[01:58:52.840 --> 01:58:53.840]  Call Monday.
[01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:54.840]  Monday night.
[01:58:54.840 --> 01:58:55.840]  No, no.
[01:58:55.840 --> 01:58:56.840]  Thursday.
[01:58:56.840 --> 01:58:57.840]  Okay.
[01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:00.840]  I'm like a stepping craze, don't you watch my thighs
[01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:03.840]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:07.840]  I'm like a stepping craze, don't you watch my thighs
[01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:11.840]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:16.840]  If you are a Chucky, nobody Chucky from me
[01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:24.840]  If you are a Chucky, Chucky, nobody Chucky from me
[01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:29.840]  I'm like a stepping craze, don't you watch my thighs
[01:59:29.840 --> 01:59:33.840]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:37.840]  I'm like a stepping craze, don't you watch my thighs
[01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:40.840]  I'm dangerous, dangerous
[01:59:40.840 --> 01:59:43.840]  If you eat down your balls
[01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:47.840]  Take a drink and be cool
[01:59:47.840 --> 01:59:51.840]  If you drink less soup
[01:59:51.840 --> 01:59:54.840]  You better be cool