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[00:00.000 --> 00:10.720] Pakistani police officials claim Taliban militants shot down a suspected drone aircraft in a
[00:10.720 --> 00:14.920] tribal area boarding Afghanistan on Saturday.
[00:14.920 --> 00:19.400] Barack Obama declared that the US was not winning the war in Afghanistan and opened
[00:19.400 --> 00:24.280] the door to a reconciliation process in which the US would reach out to moderate elements
[00:24.280 --> 00:26.520] of the Taliban.
[00:26.520 --> 00:30.600] Pakistani officials announced 18 soldiers killed themselves in February.
[00:30.600 --> 00:36.320] Of the 18 cases, two are confirmed as suicides and 16 are being investigated.
[00:36.320 --> 00:45.720] About 90% of pending cases typically are ruled suicides.
[00:45.720 --> 00:50.840] According to the New York Times, capital punishment costs three times as much as homicide cases
[00:50.840 --> 00:53.400] where the death penalty is not sought.
[00:53.400 --> 00:59.200] In recent months, lawmakers in Maryland, Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska and New Hampshire have been
[00:59.200 --> 01:02.920] pushing bills to repeal the death penalty.
[01:02.920 --> 01:06.520] Experts say the bills have a good chance of passing in some states.
[01:06.520 --> 01:11.520] Death penalty opponents say they are glad to have allies raising the economic argument.
[01:11.520 --> 01:17.000] They say capital cases are expensive because they take longer, require more lawyers and
[01:17.000 --> 01:20.220] expert witnesses and involve multiple appeals.
[01:20.220 --> 01:25.680] The Times says a death sentence conviction typically costs over three million dollars.
[01:25.680 --> 01:30.320] Colorado is considering a bill that would abolish the death penalty and use the savings
[01:30.320 --> 01:41.200] to create a cold case unit to investigate the state's 1,400 unsolved murders.
[01:41.200 --> 01:47.240] Business is booming for the GEO Group, a private firm that is paid millions by the US government
[01:47.240 --> 01:50.320] to detain undocumented immigrants.
[01:50.320 --> 01:58.000] GEO reported an annual income of $61 million of 2008, up from $38 million the year before.
[01:58.000 --> 02:03.040] Since 2003, more than a million people have been processed through federal immigration
[02:03.040 --> 02:07.560] lockups, including seven contracted detention facilities.
[02:07.560 --> 02:11.320] GEO operates four of these seven for-profit prisons.
[02:11.320 --> 02:17.000] Behind the financial success are increasing charges of negligence, civil rights violations,
[02:17.000 --> 02:20.240] abuse and even death at GEO facilities.
[02:20.240 --> 02:25.480] GEO's relationship with government officials has proven valuable in winning corrections
[02:25.480 --> 02:26.480] contracts.
[02:26.480 --> 02:32.080] In 2006, Director of Prisons at the Colorado Department of Corrections, Nolan Renfro helped
[02:32.080 --> 02:35.800] GEO obtain a $14 million a year contract.
[02:35.800 --> 02:40.680] Renfro was moonlighting for GEO when a state audit uncovered the business deal.
[02:40.680 --> 02:46.960] Despite a wide array of grievances, GEO has accrued contracts worth more than $588 million
[02:46.960 --> 02:49.640] in federal tax dollars since 1997.
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[03:12.320 --> 03:27.960] What are you going to do when the sun don't come up for you?
[03:27.960 --> 03:36.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to do when they come
[03:36.000 --> 03:37.000] for you?
[03:37.000 --> 03:44.880] When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule,
[03:44.880 --> 03:47.880] so why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:47.880 --> 03:52.880] If you get high and you must get cool, bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do,
[03:52.880 --> 03:55.880] what are you going to do when they come for you?
[03:55.880 --> 04:00.880] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to do when they come
[04:00.880 --> 04:01.880] for you?
[04:01.880 --> 04:02.880] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one, you chuck it on your mother and
[04:02.880 --> 04:03.880] you chuck it on your father.
[04:03.880 --> 04:08.380] You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister.
[04:08.380 --> 04:12.780] You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me!
[04:12.780 --> 04:18.780] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do, what are you going to do when they come
[04:18.780 --> 04:19.780] for you?
[04:19.780 --> 04:39.300] Bad boys. Bad bad boys. We're definitely coming for them this time. They want to draw our
[04:39.300 --> 04:49.060] blood on the side of the road. This is absolutely a horrific situation. It's a monstrosity.
[04:49.060 --> 04:56.620] It's diabolical. It's completely blasphemous to humanity. The cops in Austin, the police
[04:56.620 --> 05:06.380] chief wants to take federal funding to pay for training and the whole setup of the program
[05:06.380 --> 05:14.260] to draw blood from people on the side of the road if they refuse breathalyzer. What's it
[05:14.260 --> 05:17.860] going to lead to next? They're just going to say, well, you know what? Let's just forget
[05:17.860 --> 05:22.580] the breathalyzers. Let's just take people's blood. They're trying to weasel out of saying
[05:22.580 --> 05:29.260] that they're forcing people into it by saying, well, you don't have to give blood on the
[05:29.260 --> 05:33.340] side of the road, but if you don't, we're going to throw you in jail and arrest you.
[05:33.340 --> 05:36.900] That's what they do with the breathalyzers. If you refuse a breathalyzer, you get arrested
[05:36.900 --> 05:42.700] automatically. I don't know what in the heck you get charged with if you're not doing anything
[05:42.700 --> 05:48.220] wrong, but you do get thrown in jail and you get your license taken away for, I believe
[05:48.220 --> 05:54.460] it's six months here in Texas if you refuse a breathalyzer. Now they want to coerce people
[05:54.460 --> 06:03.220] into giving blood. I cannot believe that this is honestly happening, that they would even
[06:03.220 --> 06:11.300] conceive of such a thing, of sticking needles in people's arms, the cops on the side of
[06:11.300 --> 06:20.220] the road, hello, and Mothers for Drunk Driving is endorsing this. This is outrageous. This
[06:20.220 --> 06:27.060] is absolutely outrageous. That's really going to stop or prevent drunk driving if people
[06:27.060 --> 06:31.540] have to give blood. I mean, if people get caught drunk driving, there are plenty of
[06:31.540 --> 06:37.580] laws on the books to really punish people big time for drunk driving. They don't need
[06:37.580 --> 06:43.980] to be taking our blood. That's a lame excuse. This is absolutely horrific situation. It's
[06:43.980 --> 06:50.620] like, okay, here, we'll take your blood and give you a chip. They want to implant us with
[06:50.620 --> 06:58.940] RFIDs and take our blood too. It's patently illegal on its face. All the cops would have
[06:58.940 --> 07:05.140] to be certified phlebotomists, and still they'd have to have a permission, and the federal
[07:05.140 --> 07:10.260] government is paying for the whole thing. Randy, this is outrageous. Now listen, there's
[07:10.260 --> 07:17.100] going to be a town hall meeting in city council chambers. I'm not sure if city council is
[07:17.100 --> 07:22.100] actually going to be there or not, but I know the police chief is, and a rep from the ACLU.
[07:22.100 --> 07:26.260] Hopefully, that person is going to be speaking against this. Mothers from Drunk Driving is
[07:26.260 --> 07:32.860] going to be there speaking for it. I know I've looked on the Meetup page, and there's
[07:32.860 --> 07:39.740] over a hundred people already signed up to go. People, we need to pack the house, okay?
[07:39.740 --> 07:45.780] We need that city council chambers full, all right? Everyone needs to get there early that
[07:45.780 --> 07:51.000] wants to speak and sign up. Randy and I are going to be broadcasting live from the event
[07:51.000 --> 07:57.820] that night. It starts at 6 p.m. on March 30th, right here in Austin, Texas city council chambers.
[07:57.820 --> 08:03.180] We're going to confront the police chief and let him know that they're all going to get
[08:03.180 --> 08:07.700] their butts dragged in front of a grand jury and felony charges filed against every single
[08:07.700 --> 08:14.180] one of them and get the living crapola suit out of them if they intend on doing this.
[08:14.180 --> 08:20.900] Randy's putting together research. As we speak, he's going to go up and speak on the mic when
[08:20.900 --> 08:28.060] they open up to have public input. Randy, you're going to let him have it, right?
[08:28.060 --> 08:40.500] Well, yeah. Not just grand jury. If the chief of police really wants this, then I get to
[08:40.500 --> 08:48.260] introduce him to the concept of respondent superior. Let's see how bad you really want
[08:48.260 --> 08:57.220] this, Bubba, because if one of your officers goes out there and pulls me over and takes
[08:57.220 --> 09:03.980] my blood and does me any harm, I'm going to come after you personally in the court.
[09:03.980 --> 09:09.100] Well, I'll tell you what, they're not going to do that to me. I will not personally submit
[09:09.100 --> 09:13.220] to having a needle stuck in my arm on the side of the road by a cop. Not going to happen.
[09:13.220 --> 09:18.860] They can throw me in jail, but I ain't going to go there. I will sue their butts for throwing
[09:18.860 --> 09:23.300] me in jail if I refuse to give blood. I will not do it.
[09:23.300 --> 09:29.380] Here's the deal. What he does when he asks for this, he needs to be careful what he asks
[09:29.380 --> 09:37.260] for. First off, if anybody knows how to fight it, it's worthless. I'll just talk to Russell
[09:37.260 --> 09:45.380] because we're doing a little research. Right in the front of the Code of Criminal Procedure,
[09:45.380 --> 10:01.300] one... Let's see. It's under definitions 107, definition 19. Let me find it here. 107. Russell
[10:01.300 --> 10:02.300] gave me the wrong number.
[10:02.300 --> 10:03.300] Uh-oh. Too bad.
[10:03.300 --> 10:11.940] Not 107. 107 is right to bail. Okay. Let's go back. Definitions. Anyway, definitions
[10:11.940 --> 10:17.900] goes to... This one goes to permission or...
[10:17.900 --> 10:18.900] Consent.
[10:18.900 --> 10:28.700] Consent. Oh, 119. Corruption of blood. No conviction shall work. Corruption of blood
[10:28.700 --> 10:29.700] before... Okay.
[10:29.700 --> 10:32.180] Wait, wait, wait. Read that again. Say that again, Randy.
[10:32.180 --> 10:37.260] That comes from the Constitution. No conviction shall work corruption of blood or forfeiture
[10:37.260 --> 10:38.260] of a state.
[10:38.260 --> 10:42.380] No conviction shall... No conviction shall... Say what again?
[10:42.380 --> 10:44.700] Work corruption of blood or forfeiture of a state.
[10:44.700 --> 10:45.700] What does that mean?
[10:45.700 --> 10:47.700] It means they can't beat you.
[10:47.700 --> 10:49.940] No, wait. What does corruption of blood mean?
[10:49.940 --> 11:02.100] Beat you. Draw blood. But it does say conviction. The requirements for permission, as you know,
[11:02.100 --> 11:08.420] is you have to be able to give permission. And the definition says you can't give permission
[11:08.420 --> 11:09.700] if you are intoxicated.
[11:09.700 --> 11:14.420] Okay. So the parathalizer test itself is illegal then?
[11:14.420 --> 11:16.740] It's a paradox on its face.
[11:16.740 --> 11:22.740] Because you can't give consent to give biometric data if you're intoxicated.
[11:22.740 --> 11:25.380] And if you're not intoxicated...
[11:25.380 --> 11:26.380] And if you're not intoxicated...
[11:26.380 --> 11:32.740] Not a problem. You can give permission but it's okay because you're not intoxicated anyway.
[11:32.740 --> 11:33.740] So then why bother?
[11:33.740 --> 11:40.460] That's the point. And then if you don't give permission and they take it without your permission,
[11:40.460 --> 11:44.260] 3251 makes that a felony.
[11:44.260 --> 11:48.540] Now Randy, here's how I think they're going to try to weasel out of all this. They're
[11:48.540 --> 11:53.380] going to say, well, we're not forcing people into doing this. You have an alternative to
[11:53.380 --> 11:57.780] say no. But the problem is if you say no, they'll throw your butt in jail.
[11:57.780 --> 11:59.380] Well, they do that anyway.
[11:59.380 --> 12:04.740] I know they do that anyway. If you say no, then if you say no to the parathalizer, they
[12:04.740 --> 12:09.340] throw you in jail. But now they're going to make it so that if you say no to drawing blood
[12:09.340 --> 12:14.220] on the side of the road, they're going to throw you in jail too. This has got to stop.
[12:14.220 --> 12:20.220] Well, here's the chief's problem. If he really wants this, we'll see how bad he really wants
[12:20.220 --> 12:29.660] it. Because if one of his officers injures someone, taking blood, I will be watching
[12:29.660 --> 12:37.160] and I will personally take them the lawsuit they need to sue the chief of police himself.
[12:37.160 --> 12:39.060] Take Bubba's bass boat.
[12:39.060 --> 12:47.660] Now Randy, what I want to know is where is the law that authorizes the chief of police
[12:47.660 --> 12:58.420] of Austin to take federal funding anyway? Period. Okay? Where does it say on the books
[12:58.420 --> 13:04.180] that he's allowed to take federal money? I thought that's what our taxes are, you know,
[13:04.180 --> 13:09.740] we're paying for here. Our Texas sales tax, our property taxes. You know, we're already
[13:09.740 --> 13:18.280] paying for the running of the police department here in Austin. And what gives him the authority
[13:18.280 --> 13:22.860] to take money from the feds? Because you know what? If I went to the chief of police, well
[13:22.860 --> 13:27.700] not that I have any money, but if somebody who has some money went to the chief of police
[13:27.700 --> 13:34.420] and wanted to implement some program and give them funding for it, they'd go to jail for
[13:34.420 --> 13:39.860] bribery or something. So how come the feds get to give them money to implement a program
[13:39.860 --> 13:44.100] but nobody else does? I don't think there's a law anywhere that authorizes the chief of
[13:44.100 --> 13:48.500] police to take federal grant money for anything. If there is, I want to see it.
[13:48.500 --> 13:53.800] That's a question we've raised before and frankly it's a question I haven't had time
[13:53.800 --> 13:56.580] to research, but it is a very interesting question.
[13:56.580 --> 14:02.820] Well we need to find the research and have that kind of research prepared for March 30th
[14:02.820 --> 14:09.660] so that we can go and tell them and feel secure about telling them, look pal, you can't even
[14:09.660 --> 14:13.420] legally take this money from the feds and you're going to go down if you do.
[14:13.420 --> 14:19.460] That's exactly one of the things I would like to be able to bring to him, but it's going
[14:19.460 --> 14:24.340] to depend on what I find in the research. Well you know what? Check it out Randy. If
[14:24.340 --> 14:31.540] we can't find a law by then that authorizes him to do that, guess what? Make him do it.
[14:31.540 --> 14:36.100] Now ask him straight up, where is the law that authorizes you to do this? Because you
[14:36.100 --> 14:43.340] know what? If he can't produce the law on the books showing that he can, then he can't.
[14:43.340 --> 14:47.700] That's my position. He can't just say, he's not a sovereign, he's
[14:47.700 --> 14:53.540] a public servant. He can't just say I can do whatever I want unless something says that
[14:53.540 --> 14:56.460] I can't. No, that's not the way it is.
[14:56.460 --> 15:03.180] That's an issue Ken and I were discussing today. And it's sometimes a subtle issue.
[15:03.180 --> 15:08.620] And so it's one of these things that may not have been adjudicated. And about the last
[15:08.620 --> 15:16.940] thing the city of Austin is going to want to get into is an issue that hasn't been adjudicated.
[15:16.940 --> 15:21.020] Because what it does is winds up costing a lot of money and a lot of time.
[15:21.020 --> 15:25.900] You're kidding. And chance they may lose. And the last thing
[15:25.900 --> 15:34.660] they would want to do is lose on this issue. Because they lose on the issue, they're screwed.
[15:34.660 --> 15:42.620] So what they will generally try to do is keep the issue from ever coming up before court.
[15:42.620 --> 15:48.420] They absolutely do not want that to happen. Well, then we're shoving them between a rock
[15:48.420 --> 15:50.660] and a hard place. And that's exactly where they need to be.
[15:50.660 --> 15:59.900] Something I wanted to discuss a little bit is about this idea of a public official only
[15:59.900 --> 16:04.220] being able to do what he specifically authorized. That's right.
[16:04.220 --> 16:13.340] What we were looking at today is a woman in Irving that was arrested for criminal trespass.
[16:13.340 --> 16:21.140] And she actually insisted that her attorney fight for her rights.
[16:21.140 --> 16:27.820] Well, he is just aghast. He can't believe she's demanding to do that.
[16:27.820 --> 16:33.420] And he has sent a letter to her. She's in New York telling her he wants to be removed
[16:33.420 --> 16:37.140] from the case. Okay, yeah, we're going to break. We've got
[16:37.140 --> 16:41.740] a couple of callers. Andrea from California, Travis from Minnesota. Callers, just hang
[16:41.740 --> 16:48.260] on the line for a minute while we finish up discussing this issue of grave importance.
[16:48.260 --> 16:53.220] We'll be right back. This is a Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Debra Stevens on Rule of
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[18:22.180 --> 18:33.180] If I can't believe my eyes, I've got to believe my heart.
[18:33.180 --> 18:43.180] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart.
[18:43.180 --> 18:53.180] If I can't believe the newspapers, I've got to believe my heart.
[18:53.180 --> 19:03.180] If I can't believe the radio, I've got to believe my heart.
[19:03.180 --> 19:14.180] If I can't believe my heart, wait a minute. You know I'm out here in this wilderness alone.
[19:14.180 --> 19:22.180] Trouble you bring to me, baby, till I sit home. Just because you can't find belief in that.
[19:22.180 --> 19:26.180] All right, we are back. Can't find belief in this reality. Man, I'll tell you what, this
[19:26.180 --> 19:32.180] is some serious reality here. Taking blood from people on the side of the road, sticking
[19:32.180 --> 19:38.180] them with needles, give me a break. I mean, I can't even believe that it has gotten to
[19:38.180 --> 19:43.180] the point that we have to even discuss something like this or fight it. But I'll tell you what,
[19:43.180 --> 19:49.180] it's going to be a packed house for sure. March, again, anyone within earshot of Austin,
[19:49.180 --> 20:01.180] Texas, San Antonio, San Marcos, Kyle, Georgetown, you people all around need to come and
[20:01.180 --> 20:11.180] we need to throng City Hall. I mean, mob scene. All right, not in a violent way, but we need
[20:11.180 --> 20:17.180] bodies, like many hundreds of people, so many people that I'm going to be able to get everybody
[20:17.180 --> 20:23.180] in the place. And we're going to be set up in the hall outside. We can't broadcast inside
[20:23.180 --> 20:28.180] the chambers because people have to be quiet so that we can hear the speakers and stuff
[20:28.180 --> 20:33.180] like that. But we're going to patch into their sound system and everything that is going
[20:33.180 --> 20:39.180] to be set on the mic by whoever's on the mic, public and the public servants as well, is
[20:39.180 --> 20:44.180] going to go out live on the air. All right, we're not going to put up with this at all,
[20:44.180 --> 20:50.180] at all, at all. And we've got Aaron from Texas right now who is calling in with some
[20:50.180 --> 20:54.180] information, some statutes in the transportation code. Hey, Aaron, thanks for calling in.
[20:54.180 --> 20:59.180] What do you have for us? I just want to make sure that this got mentioned
[20:59.180 --> 21:08.180] before Randy starts talking to everybody. Transportation Code 724.011 is a special statute
[21:08.180 --> 21:13.180] specifically relating to consent to a breathalyzer or blood test.
[21:13.180 --> 21:16.180] Oh, that's right. I think we've talked about this before. Go ahead, Aaron.
[21:16.180 --> 21:20.180] Yeah, it has been mentioned on the show, but basically it says if a person is arrested
[21:20.180 --> 21:24.180] for an offense arising out of acts alleged to have been committed while the person was
[21:24.180 --> 21:30.180] operating a motor vehicle in a public place or a watercraft while intoxicated, dot, dot,
[21:30.180 --> 21:38.180] dot, the person is deemed to have consented to submit to the taking of one or more specimens
[21:38.180 --> 21:42.180] of the person's breath or blood for analysis to determine the alcohol content.
[21:42.180 --> 21:48.180] It says or blood in the statute? Yeah, and that's going to be subject to the
[21:48.180 --> 21:54.180] cleanliness of a trained personnel and all that kind of stuff. But at the same time,
[21:54.180 --> 21:58.180] the person has to be arrested is number one, so that's pretty big.
[21:58.180 --> 22:06.180] Wait a minute. The statute says that if you're arrested, you're deemed to consent?
[22:06.180 --> 22:11.180] Yes. Then all that does is go to promiscation.
[22:11.180 --> 22:19.180] Exactly. But it kind of is going to make it difficult to make that argument of you can't
[22:19.180 --> 22:23.180] consent if you're intoxicated because this is a very specific case.
[22:23.180 --> 22:28.180] Yeah, I remember this coming up before, Aaron. I'm glad that you brought that up.
[22:28.180 --> 22:37.180] But what is also key here in the statute is that the person has to be arrested in order for them
[22:37.180 --> 22:42.180] to forcefully take blood from you or breathalyzer.
[22:42.180 --> 22:49.180] The police chief here wants to do this on the side of the road without an arrest.
[22:49.180 --> 22:53.180] And from what I understand that you just told me in the statute,
[22:53.180 --> 22:58.180] there's nothing that authorizes the cops to draw blood from you on the side of the highway.
[22:58.180 --> 23:01.180] Wait a minute. We have a problem here. What?
[23:01.180 --> 23:04.180] I think you're arrested. We have a problem with paramateria.
[23:04.180 --> 23:07.180] What is that? What problem?
[23:07.180 --> 23:15.180] The two laws conflict with one another. The one very clearly says you cannot give consent.
[23:15.180 --> 23:22.180] And that's the Code of Criminal Procedure. The transportation code says that you're deemed to...
[23:22.180 --> 23:27.180] Okay. Code of Criminal Procedure says when you're intoxicated, you cannot give consent.
[23:27.180 --> 23:34.180] The transportation code says if you're arrested on an allegation of intoxication,
[23:34.180 --> 23:39.180] you're deemed to give consent. They're in conflict.
[23:39.180 --> 23:45.180] And when the transportation code is in conflict with the Code of Criminal Procedure,
[23:45.180 --> 23:47.180] Code of Criminal Procedure governs.
[23:47.180 --> 23:48.180] Really?
[23:48.180 --> 23:49.180] Always.
[23:49.180 --> 23:56.180] Okay. Well, then that section of the transportation code is moot.
[23:56.180 --> 24:03.180] Well, the problem is convincing the judge to treat it as moot.
[24:03.180 --> 24:08.180] Well, yeah. That is one issue, but this is another issue.
[24:08.180 --> 24:14.180] That section of the transportation code says even if the judge doesn't want to treat it as moot,
[24:14.180 --> 24:20.180] the code still says the person has to be arrested first. And the cops don't want to do that.
[24:20.180 --> 24:25.180] They want to pull blood. They want to stick needles in people's arms on the side of the highway
[24:25.180 --> 24:28.180] without being arrested. Okay?
[24:28.180 --> 24:31.180] So that law does not cover what these people want to do.
[24:31.180 --> 24:40.180] This raises a conundrum. Okay. If you don't consent, then they will arrest.
[24:40.180 --> 24:41.180] And then they'll just do it anyway.
[24:41.180 --> 24:47.180] Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You had to have already denied consent.
[24:47.180 --> 24:49.180] Okay. So...
[24:49.180 --> 24:51.180] They can't deem you consenting then.
[24:51.180 --> 24:59.180] Well, yeah, right. It goes to prima facie. You have already overcome the prima facie
[24:59.180 --> 25:06.180] consideration that you consented because you were arrested by refusing.
[25:06.180 --> 25:10.180] So the law in either case is moot.
[25:10.180 --> 25:17.180] Well, Randy, can they force people to give biometric data or blood or whatever
[25:17.180 --> 25:21.180] once you've been arrested and you're inside jail? Do you still have the right to refuse
[25:21.180 --> 25:27.180] to give them those things? I know you have the right to refuse to take their vaccinations.
[25:27.180 --> 25:34.180] Yes, that's different. You have to identify yourself. What I'm not sure of and one of the things,
[25:34.180 --> 25:38.180] you know, when they arrested me the last time, that was the question I had.
[25:38.180 --> 25:41.180] Well, Randy, did they take blood from you when you were arrested?
[25:41.180 --> 25:42.180] No, that wouldn't have happened.
[25:42.180 --> 25:44.180] Okay. So let me ask you this.
[25:44.180 --> 25:46.180] There are other forms of biometric data.
[25:46.180 --> 25:51.180] Let me ask you this. If they want to draw blood from you on the side of the highway,
[25:51.180 --> 25:57.180] you say no. They arrest you. Can they, like, tie you down and stick a needle in you
[25:57.180 --> 26:00.180] and take it anyway without your consent forcefully?
[26:00.180 --> 26:01.180] Not that I know of.
[26:01.180 --> 26:07.180] So you do have the right to refuse to give them blood even after you've been arrested.
[26:07.180 --> 26:11.180] I don't know of anything that can change that.
[26:11.180 --> 26:17.180] Well, because I tell you what, they would have to totally tie me down and stick a needle in me.
[26:17.180 --> 26:20.180] I will never give consent to that.
[26:20.180 --> 26:26.180] After I'm arrested, that kind of goes to punishment after arrest and corruption of blood.
[26:26.180 --> 26:29.180] Well, what I want to know is are they doing that already?
[26:29.180 --> 26:36.180] Callers, if anybody out there has been arrested and literally been physically forced to give blood
[26:36.180 --> 26:41.180] or to take a vaccination, any kind of needles at all, whether they're injecting something
[26:41.180 --> 26:47.180] or whether they're withdrawing, I want to know if they just coerced you verbally
[26:47.180 --> 26:55.180] or if anybody has ever actually been physically restrained and had needles put in them in jail.
[26:55.180 --> 26:58.180] I want to know. Callers, if that's happened to you or if you know someone's happened to you,
[26:58.180 --> 26:59.180] call in and let us know.
[26:59.180 --> 27:06.180] Okay. This is an issue I'm preparing to take on when I sue Travis County
[27:06.180 --> 27:11.180] because when they arrested me, they wanted to take my fingerprints and I said, no, no, no, no, no.
[27:11.180 --> 27:14.180] That's biometric data. You are not to take it.
[27:14.180 --> 27:18.180] It's my personal biometric data and you are not to take it.
[27:18.180 --> 27:23.180] And they were very concerned that we have to, it's policy.
[27:23.180 --> 27:27.180] Well, I don't care what your policy is. We have to take it, they said.
[27:27.180 --> 27:33.180] Okay. I said, well, if I refuse to give it to you and you bring a guy out here with muscles
[27:33.180 --> 27:39.180] in places where I don't have places and force me to give it, they said, yes, we will.
[27:39.180 --> 27:45.180] Well, in that case, I can't object any more than I already have.
[27:45.180 --> 27:50.180] I didn't need to get beat up in order to make the point, but I did it all on camera.
[27:50.180 --> 27:54.180] Now that's an issue I want to take to the court.
[27:54.180 --> 28:00.180] They have taken my biometric data and disseminated it.
[28:00.180 --> 28:02.180] And you can't get it back.
[28:02.180 --> 28:03.180] They can't get it back.
[28:03.180 --> 28:05.180] They can't get it back either.
[28:05.180 --> 28:09.180] So this is a bell that's been rung and can't be unrung.
[28:09.180 --> 28:10.180] Yep.
[28:10.180 --> 28:17.180] And the most, one that concerns me the most is Interpol has it.
[28:17.180 --> 28:20.180] And that's a group of...
[28:20.180 --> 28:21.180] What is that?
[28:21.180 --> 28:22.180] Interpol.
[28:22.180 --> 28:23.180] What is Interpol?
[28:23.180 --> 28:25.180] International police.
[28:25.180 --> 28:26.180] Oh, man.
[28:26.180 --> 28:28.180] They're a gang of paid murderers.
[28:28.180 --> 28:30.180] That's what they do.
[28:30.180 --> 28:31.180] Oh, boy.
[28:31.180 --> 28:34.180] And now they have my biometric data.
[28:34.180 --> 28:36.180] Does not make me happy.
[28:36.180 --> 28:38.180] Nice. Nice.
[28:38.180 --> 28:42.180] Well, but that'll be an issue I'll get to.
[28:42.180 --> 28:45.180] This thing of can they take blood?
[28:45.180 --> 28:47.180] Does that go to corruption of blood?
[28:47.180 --> 28:49.180] I would say so.
[28:49.180 --> 28:52.180] That's an interesting question.
[28:52.180 --> 28:54.180] I have one more question.
[28:54.180 --> 28:55.180] Go ahead, Aaron.
[28:55.180 --> 29:01.180] When you were saying can they do it on the side of the road or did they have to arrest you first?
[29:01.180 --> 29:04.180] Aren't you arrested if you get pulled over?
[29:04.180 --> 29:06.180] No.
[29:06.180 --> 29:10.180] Are you not arrested and then released with notice to appear?
[29:10.180 --> 29:13.180] The courts have called that a Terry stop.
[29:13.180 --> 29:15.180] Terry's the case.
[29:15.180 --> 29:18.180] That you're under detention.
[29:18.180 --> 29:28.180] Essentially, it's the same thing where they don't have enough probable cause to arrest,
[29:28.180 --> 29:36.180] but they do have enough probable cause to investigate so they can hold you for investigation.
[29:36.180 --> 29:37.180] It's clearly defined.
[29:37.180 --> 29:38.180] Okay.
[29:38.180 --> 29:39.180] Well, look, we're going to break right now.
[29:39.180 --> 29:43.180] Aaron, you can stay on if you have any other questions or comments.
[29:43.180 --> 29:46.180] We've got a few other callers that have called in.
[29:46.180 --> 29:51.180] Callers that asked to stay on point, on topic at this time.
[29:51.180 --> 29:53.180] If you have other issues, then we can discuss that later.
[29:53.180 --> 29:57.180] We'll be right back.
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[30:58.180 --> 31:23.180] Fuckin' mess is in the fuckin' veins It's all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, life is for savings
[31:23.180 --> 31:26.180] Some people are preaching ideas with which I may not agree
[31:26.180 --> 31:29.180] Because they want the world to be the way they think it should be
[31:29.180 --> 31:32.180] When I hear that judgment pass a single angle
[31:32.180 --> 31:36.180] I wonder if they live in a life they're preaching about to be
[31:36.180 --> 31:38.180] Living off this group of cops and cops
[31:38.180 --> 31:41.180] This group of black people don't make it probably because they're rough
[31:41.180 --> 31:45.180] Many words don't show in the songs they sing
[31:45.180 --> 31:49.180] But in my heart I pray we're not gonna bring any damage
[31:49.180 --> 31:53.180] On the stones thrown by the people living in the bleed glass
[31:53.180 --> 32:01.180] Damage by the stones thrown by the people living in their plate glass homes
[32:01.180 --> 32:09.180] And we do have some public officials in some plate glass buildings at this point in time
[32:09.180 --> 32:11.180] Wanting to draw our blood
[32:11.180 --> 32:13.180] I don't think they have any legal ground whatsoever
[32:13.180 --> 32:17.180] So, you know, they're on shaky ground, all right
[32:17.180 --> 32:20.180] So we're gonna do something about it
[32:20.180 --> 32:23.180] Sandy, okay, finish up
[32:23.180 --> 32:28.180] Aaron dropped off the line, but let's finish answering his question
[32:28.180 --> 32:30.180] Talking about the arrest
[32:30.180 --> 32:32.180] Are you arrested when you get pulled over?
[32:32.180 --> 32:36.180] So can they take your blood anyway without your permission?
[32:36.180 --> 32:38.180] And we do have some callers on the line
[32:38.180 --> 32:42.180] I want to get to see if any of them have been forced into giving blood
[32:42.180 --> 32:44.180] Or having vaccinations or whatever inside jail
[32:44.180 --> 32:50.180] Okay, the courts have made distinctions about types of arrest
[32:50.180 --> 32:57.180] And what they say is that an officer can detain someone
[32:57.180 --> 33:06.180] If he has reason to believe the person has information concerning the commission of a crime
[33:06.180 --> 33:11.180] Even if they're the ones suspected of committing the crime
[33:11.180 --> 33:17.180] The officer can detain them for a reasonable time for questioning
[33:17.180 --> 33:23.180] But the specifics of probable cause are clearly defined in law
[33:23.180 --> 33:27.180] He can't just stop you at however he wants to
[33:27.180 --> 33:35.180] If anybody remembers the story of me being arrested at the State Department
[33:35.180 --> 33:37.180] The Secretary of State
[33:37.180 --> 33:41.180] When the officer told me I couldn't leave the building, I asked him if I'm under arrest
[33:41.180 --> 33:44.180] And he said, well, no, then I'm out of here
[33:44.180 --> 33:45.180] No, you can't leave
[33:45.180 --> 33:48.180] I said, yeah, I'm leaving, there's a door I can just tool right out
[33:48.180 --> 33:50.180] No, no, you can't leave
[33:50.180 --> 33:52.180] Yeah, first they kick you out, then they wouldn't let you leave
[33:52.180 --> 33:54.180] I said, so, okay, so I'm under arrest
[33:54.180 --> 33:56.180] No, you're not under arrest
[33:56.180 --> 33:57.180] Then I'm leaving
[33:57.180 --> 34:00.180] He said, no, Mr. Kelton, you're under detention
[34:00.180 --> 34:03.180] Oh, I'm under detention
[34:03.180 --> 34:09.180] Okay, nature of the probable cause you have to believe
[34:09.180 --> 34:12.180] That I have information concerning the commission of a crime
[34:12.180 --> 34:14.180] I don't need any
[34:14.180 --> 34:17.180] Oh, okay
[34:17.180 --> 34:19.180] Then if I leave, you're going to arrest me
[34:19.180 --> 34:21.180] He said, yes, I am
[34:21.180 --> 34:23.180] Okay, I can't leave then
[34:23.180 --> 34:25.180] Oh, boy
[34:25.180 --> 34:28.180] That was what that question was about
[34:28.180 --> 34:31.180] I was familiar with what a Terry stop is
[34:31.180 --> 34:34.180] And I asked him the specific question
[34:34.180 --> 34:37.180] And he claimed he didn't need it
[34:37.180 --> 34:41.180] So that's all you really need to do
[34:41.180 --> 34:44.180] I didn't need to get him to beat the crap out of me
[34:44.180 --> 34:48.180] It wasn't my intention, it was his boss who did that
[34:48.180 --> 34:54.180] I got to talk to his major
[34:54.180 --> 34:58.180] I told everybody that I talked to the lieutenant
[34:58.180 --> 35:02.180] I asked him if he was the one that sent Sergeant McLean out
[35:02.180 --> 35:04.180] To beat the crap out of me
[35:04.180 --> 35:07.180] And arrest me because I exercised my Fifth Amendment right
[35:07.180 --> 35:09.180] And he said, yes, I suppose I am
[35:09.180 --> 35:12.180] Thank you very much, that's all I need from you, good day, click
[35:12.180 --> 35:14.180] I called the major
[35:14.180 --> 35:19.180] And the major, Major Remy
[35:19.180 --> 35:23.180] Claimed that he was familiar with this incident
[35:23.180 --> 35:28.180] And they felt his officer acted appropriately
[35:28.180 --> 35:31.180] Yes
[35:31.180 --> 35:34.180] That makes the major respondent superior
[35:34.180 --> 35:35.180] Indeed
[35:35.180 --> 35:40.180] And that's what we want to do with the chief of police
[35:40.180 --> 35:42.180] He becomes respondent superior
[35:42.180 --> 35:44.180] If he's the one that promotes it
[35:44.180 --> 35:48.180] He's the one that orders his officers to do this
[35:48.180 --> 35:51.180] They're doing it directly under his supervision
[35:51.180 --> 35:53.180] And he is respondent superior
[35:53.180 --> 35:56.180] Well, Randy, the thing that sticks out the most to me
[35:56.180 --> 36:00.180] No pun intended, sticking out
[36:00.180 --> 36:04.180] Is that you said earlier when there's conflicting law
[36:04.180 --> 36:08.180] Like the transportation code conflicting with the criminal procedure code
[36:08.180 --> 36:10.180] The criminal procedure code wins out
[36:10.180 --> 36:16.180] And it very clearly says that you're incapable of giving consent
[36:16.180 --> 36:20.180] To give biometric data if you're intoxicated
[36:20.180 --> 36:23.180] And so if you say no, they can't do it anyway
[36:23.180 --> 36:26.180] You have to give your consent in order for them to do it
[36:26.180 --> 36:29.180] Apparently, whether you're arrested or not
[36:29.180 --> 36:32.180] And so here's where I'm going with this
[36:32.180 --> 36:36.180] They're going to say, well, we're not forcing people to do it
[36:36.180 --> 36:40.180] You have a choice, but we're going to arrest you if you say no
[36:40.180 --> 36:42.180] So does that fall under coercion?
[36:42.180 --> 36:45.180] Is it the same thing as forcing someone to do it by saying
[36:45.180 --> 36:47.180] Well, if you don't do it, I'm going to take you to jail?
[36:47.180 --> 36:50.180] That's as coercive as coercion gets
[36:50.180 --> 36:54.180] Is that the same thing as forcing someone to do it?
[36:54.180 --> 36:56.180] Exactly the same thing
[36:56.180 --> 37:00.180] Okay, well then it's patently illegal on its face, period
[37:00.180 --> 37:04.180] They cannot do it, they cannot force people to give blood
[37:04.180 --> 37:06.180] Okay, what they're trying to say is
[37:06.180 --> 37:12.180] Is that if you don't volunteer to give blood
[37:12.180 --> 37:19.180] Then that can be construed as probable cause to believe that you're intoxicated
[37:19.180 --> 37:25.180] Well, how could you give permission if you're too drunk?
[37:25.180 --> 37:27.180] You know what?
[37:27.180 --> 37:34.180] That is a very big brotherish type of argument that
[37:34.180 --> 37:38.180] Well, if you don't consent to giving blood
[37:38.180 --> 37:42.180] Then you're probably drunk because if you weren't drunk
[37:42.180 --> 37:45.180] Well, why wouldn't you just give the blood?
[37:45.180 --> 37:47.180] Maybe because I don't want you sticking a needle in my arm
[37:47.180 --> 37:48.180] That's why
[37:48.180 --> 37:51.180] Maybe because I don't want them having samples of my blood
[37:51.180 --> 37:52.180] That's why
[37:52.180 --> 37:53.180] No, a breathalyzer
[37:53.180 --> 37:54.180] Give me a break
[37:54.180 --> 37:58.180] A breathalyzer is bad enough with tuberculosis
[37:58.180 --> 38:00.180] With these new strains of tuberculosis
[38:00.180 --> 38:01.180] Oh my God, can you imagine?
[38:01.180 --> 38:04.180] Who knows where those needles have been or if it's been popped
[38:04.180 --> 38:06.180] No, no, forget it, forget it
[38:06.180 --> 38:08.180] There's no way to ensure that it'd be hygienic
[38:08.180 --> 38:09.180] That's not even the point
[38:09.180 --> 38:14.180] I mean those are what I would call soft arguments against something like that
[38:14.180 --> 38:16.180] No, no, wait a minute
[38:16.180 --> 38:18.180] This is life and death argument
[38:18.180 --> 38:19.180] Yeah, I know
[38:19.180 --> 38:22.180] Tuberculosis and AIDS are life and death
[38:22.180 --> 38:24.180] These are big, big deals
[38:24.180 --> 38:28.180] They need to not do it at all, period
[38:28.180 --> 38:30.180] They can kill people
[38:30.180 --> 38:32.180] Who knows where those needles have been?
[38:32.180 --> 38:35.180] There's HIV, there's hepatitis
[38:35.180 --> 38:42.180] There's all kinds of blood-borne viruses that there is no cure for, period
[38:42.180 --> 38:44.180] And they can kill you
[38:44.180 --> 38:49.180] Now the officer becomes a health professional
[38:49.180 --> 38:50.180] You know what?
[38:50.180 --> 38:54.180] It doesn't matter even if he becomes a state-certified phlebotomist
[38:54.180 --> 38:58.180] Which he would have to be in order to stick a needle in your arm anyway
[38:58.180 --> 39:02.180] But even if he was a state-certified phlebotomist
[39:02.180 --> 39:05.180] They can't do it without your permission
[39:05.180 --> 39:07.180] And they can't coerce you into it, period
[39:07.180 --> 39:10.180] It's patently illegal on his face according to Code of Criminal Procedure
[39:10.180 --> 39:12.180] It's a done argument
[39:12.180 --> 39:18.180] We're going to totally hamstring him at City Council on the 30th
[39:18.180 --> 39:19.180] It's ridiculous
[39:19.180 --> 39:22.180] I don't think I even know a police officer who could say that
[39:22.180 --> 39:24.180] Much less it be that
[39:24.180 --> 39:27.180] A phlebotomist?
[39:27.180 --> 39:29.180] Yeah, really
[39:29.180 --> 39:31.180] Well, Randy, what do you say we start going to some calls?
[39:31.180 --> 39:32.180] Yes, let's do it
[39:32.180 --> 39:37.180] Okay, I'm going to skip a few who called in actually before the show started
[39:37.180 --> 39:43.180] I want to jump to Mike in Maine because he called in after I sent out the call for calls
[39:43.180 --> 39:45.180] Mike in Maine, thanks for calling in
[39:45.180 --> 39:51.180] Do you know somebody who's been forced into giving blood or taking vaccinations by the police?
[39:51.180 --> 39:54.180] Yeah, I was a long time ago, about 10 years ago
[39:54.180 --> 39:57.180] What happened? Tell us the story
[39:57.180 --> 40:04.180] Well, they held me in court
[40:04.180 --> 40:09.180] They sent me for observation to see whether or not I was fit to stand trial
[40:09.180 --> 40:12.180] And while they held me there, they said that they were going to take my blood
[40:12.180 --> 40:15.180] I said, no, I absolutely refuse
[40:15.180 --> 40:18.180] And they said that they were going to take it by force
[40:18.180 --> 40:20.180] That's why you're going to have to do it
[40:20.180 --> 40:22.180] Because I'm not giving it to you
[40:22.180 --> 40:28.180] And the reason that they gave that they needed to do it was just what Randy was saying
[40:28.180 --> 40:30.180] It was to do with tuberculosis
[40:30.180 --> 40:33.180] They were doing it to check the TB
[40:33.180 --> 40:36.180] That's their excuse
[40:36.180 --> 40:42.180] So you're going to risk giving me AIDS or TB in order to check me?
[40:42.180 --> 40:48.180] They wanted to see if I had it because I was in a housing unit as well
[40:48.180 --> 40:52.180] So they're doing it for their protection
[40:52.180 --> 40:57.180] So they held you down by force and stuck a needle in you to take blood?
[40:57.180 --> 40:59.180] Actually they did, yeah, they were a whole group of them
[40:59.180 --> 41:01.180] Oh my God
[41:01.180 --> 41:03.180] And was this in Maine?
[41:03.180 --> 41:07.180] No, this was in Massachusetts, but it was about 10 years ago too
[41:07.180 --> 41:09.180] Good Lord in heaven
[41:09.180 --> 41:11.180] Unbelievable
[41:11.180 --> 41:13.180] It does happen
[41:13.180 --> 41:21.180] Well, I don't know what the laws are in those states, but apparently it's not lawful to do that here
[41:21.180 --> 41:25.180] That's incredible, I'm so sorry that happened
[41:25.180 --> 41:28.180] If we don't stand up
[41:28.180 --> 41:29.180] It's going to happen a lot more
[41:29.180 --> 41:31.180] It's going to get a whole lot worse
[41:31.180 --> 41:34.180] It's going to get a whole lot worse
[41:34.180 --> 41:38.180] I mean next they'll be forcing us to take microchips
[41:38.180 --> 41:40.180] Oh yeah
[41:40.180 --> 41:43.180] You just wanted somebody to come up there
[41:43.180 --> 41:44.180] Yeah, I did
[41:44.180 --> 41:50.180] And what were the circumstances of this? Did this happen at the time of your arrest?
[41:50.180 --> 41:57.180] No, well I was in court on a first person judge
[41:57.180 --> 42:01.180] They told me to leave
[42:01.180 --> 42:05.180] But anyway I went to court on my own on a first person judge
[42:05.180 --> 42:07.180] I had a hat on
[42:07.180 --> 42:11.180] I was sitting in the waiting for the court to open
[42:11.180 --> 42:13.180] The judge hadn't even come in yet
[42:13.180 --> 42:16.180] The girls comes over and says take that hat off or leave
[42:16.180 --> 42:18.180] I said fine, I'll leave
[42:18.180 --> 42:20.180] Ready to leave
[42:20.180 --> 42:23.180] They said no, they're not going anywhere, they grabbed me
[42:23.180 --> 42:26.180] They dragged me in the back, beat me up
[42:26.180 --> 42:28.180] Took my hat
[42:28.180 --> 42:29.180] And it went from there
[42:29.180 --> 42:32.180] Oh my God
[42:32.180 --> 42:38.180] So they ended up beating you up, sticking a needle in you, taking your blood because you wouldn't take your hat off
[42:38.180 --> 42:42.180] Oh no, they were beating me up, that was because I was leaving the court
[42:42.180 --> 42:45.180] He didn't like my, no he didn't
[42:45.180 --> 42:49.180] The court wasn't in session, there was no judge there
[42:49.180 --> 42:52.180] They hadn't even come in yet
[42:52.180 --> 42:56.180] He yelled at me and told me to take my hat off or leave
[42:56.180 --> 42:58.180] I said well fine, I'll leave then
[42:58.180 --> 43:00.180] But I didn't have to be there
[43:00.180 --> 43:02.180] And I could skip
[43:02.180 --> 43:06.180] Or I could come back in later when the judge came in
[43:06.180 --> 43:10.180] So I was going to go out into the end of the lobby
[43:10.180 --> 43:13.180] And then when the court opened up I was going to come back in
[43:13.180 --> 43:16.180] But I didn't get a chance to do that, they grabbed me
[43:16.180 --> 43:17.180] They dragged me in the back
[43:17.180 --> 43:19.180] Unbelievable
[43:19.180 --> 43:21.180] So did you file criminal charges against him?
[43:21.180 --> 43:26.180] Well I was going to but I had a lot of other things going on at the time
[43:26.180 --> 43:31.180] In fact they made me sign a paper saying I wasn't suing him
[43:31.180 --> 43:34.180] They made you sign a paper saying you wouldn't sue them?
[43:34.180 --> 43:37.180] Yeah because I threatened to
[43:37.180 --> 43:43.180] And I had to sign a paper in order to get the charges dropped
[43:43.180 --> 43:46.180] Oh my god, alright well listen we're going to break
[43:46.180 --> 43:50.180] If you want to hang on the line you're welcome to Mike until we get to the outside
[43:50.180 --> 43:52.180] And we've got other callers as well
[43:52.180 --> 43:54.180] There's no real need though
[43:54.180 --> 43:58.180] Alright well thank you for calling in Mike, we'll be right back
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[47:00.180 --> 47:01.180] internet right now.
[47:01.180 --> 47:09.380] All right, while we're waiting to get Steve back up, Randy, what do you think about this?
[47:09.380 --> 47:17.740] Well, I think what it's going to do aside from the base objection, it's going to open
[47:17.740 --> 47:24.420] the jurisdiction up to incredible potential litigation.
[47:24.420 --> 47:30.300] Well, yeah, apparently the reason that the chief of police is wanting to do this or one
[47:30.300 --> 47:41.260] of the reasons or the big excuse, so to speak, is that they used to have apparently nurses
[47:41.260 --> 47:47.220] or whatever and phlebotomists at the jail to take blood from people, I guess forcibly,
[47:47.220 --> 47:53.020] so to speak, under coercion, I would say, and then they didn't want to do that anymore.
[47:53.020 --> 47:58.300] The phlebotomists didn't want to do that anymore, and so then they had to start bringing arrested
[47:58.300 --> 48:04.300] people by the hospital to have the hospital take the blood, and then the hospitals don't
[48:04.300 --> 48:06.660] want to do that anymore either.
[48:06.660 --> 48:13.380] Nobody wants to do it in their right mind because of exactly what you just said, Randy.
[48:13.380 --> 48:16.940] It opens them up to extreme vulnerability of litigation.
[48:16.940 --> 48:22.940] I mean, you know what, somebody could go down for manslaughter or murder.
[48:22.940 --> 48:28.980] If they didn't use the proper clean needles or whatever, and they gave somebody AIDS and
[48:28.980 --> 48:30.180] kill them.
[48:30.180 --> 48:32.060] That makes a really good argument.
[48:32.060 --> 48:34.940] I hadn't even considered that particular argument.
[48:34.940 --> 48:35.940] What?
[48:35.940 --> 48:41.300] The only reason they're doing this is because the seasoned professionals...
[48:41.300 --> 48:42.580] Won't do it.
[48:42.580 --> 48:44.180] ... know better.
[48:44.180 --> 48:48.740] They recognize the extreme risk in it and refuse to do it, so now...
[48:48.740 --> 48:51.060] So now they're trying to get the cops to do it.
[48:51.060 --> 48:55.180] They're trying to get the police to... They're trying to find another way to get this done.
[48:55.180 --> 48:58.180] It's just a bad idea to begin with.
[48:58.180 --> 49:03.820] I don't understand why the feds want to throw millions of dollars to make this happen.
[49:03.820 --> 49:08.780] What, they just want to have a big database of everyone's blood samples on file or something?
[49:08.780 --> 49:09.780] Of course.
[49:09.780 --> 49:10.780] We're going to...
[49:10.780 --> 49:11.780] That's exactly what they want.
[49:11.780 --> 49:13.260] That's exactly what they want to do, and it ain't going to happen.
[49:13.260 --> 49:14.260] Not around here.
[49:14.260 --> 49:15.260] Not if I have anything to do with it.
[49:15.260 --> 49:19.820] We're going to broadcast live from the event, and if you're out there listening, police,
[49:19.820 --> 49:22.540] chief police, whoever, guess what?
[49:22.540 --> 49:25.540] Every word you're going to say that night is going out on the air and is going to be
[49:25.540 --> 49:28.020] heard by hundreds of thousands of people, so you better watch it.
[49:28.020 --> 49:29.020] All right.
[49:29.020 --> 49:31.220] We've got Steve from California right now.
[49:31.220 --> 49:34.820] Steve, thanks for calling in, so give us your story.
[49:34.820 --> 49:37.300] Hey, Rand and Debra, how are you doing?
[49:37.300 --> 49:38.300] Doing pretty good.
[49:38.300 --> 49:41.940] Kind of wound up about this blood thing, but other than that, I'm doing good.
[49:41.940 --> 49:42.940] I'm glad to hear it.
[49:42.940 --> 49:49.540] This was 10 or 12 years ago in Ontario, California, I was pulled over for driving under the influence.
[49:49.540 --> 49:50.540] Guilty.
[49:50.540 --> 49:51.540] Sorry.
[49:51.540 --> 49:52.540] But I was.
[49:52.540 --> 49:56.900] Wasn't even going to ask.
[49:56.900 --> 50:02.300] I had been informed that we had to submit to one of the three tests, blood, urine or
[50:02.300 --> 50:03.300] breath.
[50:03.300 --> 50:09.460] I was informed to submit to the blood test for which they would have to have a medical
[50:09.460 --> 50:10.460] personnel draw your blood.
[50:10.460 --> 50:17.060] When I got to the hospital, I denied to sign their consent form for the hospital.
[50:17.060 --> 50:22.020] I'd met my obligation with the police, submitting to them to take a blood test and then refused
[50:22.020 --> 50:23.900] to let the hospital do anything.
[50:23.900 --> 50:27.180] I was held down and forcibly taken blood.
[50:27.180 --> 50:28.180] At the hospital?
[50:28.180 --> 50:37.660] At the hospital by the police and I was held in the drunk tank and released and received
[50:37.660 --> 50:42.680] notice two weeks or so later saying that this was an detention, not an arrest because they
[50:42.680 --> 50:44.700] knew that the evidence was inadmissible.
[50:44.700 --> 50:45.700] Incredible.
[50:45.700 --> 50:50.700] They wanted to show me who was in charge.
[50:50.700 --> 50:51.700] Did you sue them?
[50:51.700 --> 50:52.700] My story.
[50:52.700 --> 50:53.700] I hadn't found you yet.
[50:53.700 --> 51:02.140] He said that he hadn't heard of us, this was years ago, this was like ten, twelve years
[51:02.140 --> 51:03.140] ago, Randy.
[51:03.140 --> 51:05.140] I know, this is just to warm him up.
[51:05.140 --> 51:10.220] I was a young kid, didn't know any better.
[51:10.220 --> 51:12.620] That's what they prey on.
[51:12.620 --> 51:16.740] They know how difficult it is and they count on that.
[51:16.740 --> 51:19.500] I was thankful to just get let off.
[51:19.500 --> 51:21.580] That's exactly what they count on.
[51:21.580 --> 51:24.620] Anyway, that's my story and I thought I'd share it with you.
[51:24.620 --> 51:27.180] Thank you for calling in, Steve.
[51:27.180 --> 51:28.180] You bet.
[51:28.180 --> 51:32.860] I'm glad that we have this show so that if things like this happen to people, they can
[51:32.860 --> 51:39.020] do something about it before the statute of limitations runs out.
[51:39.020 --> 51:43.580] I'm working on getting the litigation engine unleashed this week.
[51:43.580 --> 51:47.180] Yep, I got my programmer working on it right now.
[51:47.180 --> 51:50.300] We are going to get their clocks wound.
[51:50.300 --> 51:56.660] By the time the chief of police gets to this meeting, if I have my way, he's going to have
[51:56.660 --> 52:06.780] a couple of dozen criminal cases coming at him so that he'll have a lot more to think
[52:06.780 --> 52:07.780] about.
[52:07.780 --> 52:10.460] That's right.
[52:10.460 --> 52:12.700] Let's continue on to the calls.
[52:12.700 --> 52:14.540] We've got Jim from Texas.
[52:14.540 --> 52:19.740] Jim, were you held down, restrained, forced to give blood at any point?
[52:19.740 --> 52:26.220] No, I was just abused by the district attorney in court from when I was supposed to appear
[52:26.220 --> 52:29.060] before magistrate.
[52:29.060 --> 52:30.780] That sounds like a typical situation.
[52:30.780 --> 52:31.780] Wait a minute.
[52:31.780 --> 52:36.860] We've got eight, let's see, no, ten criminal complaints going in tomorrow morning.
[52:36.860 --> 52:37.860] All right.
[52:37.860 --> 52:38.860] Good for you.
[52:38.860 --> 52:39.860] Yes.
[52:39.860 --> 52:43.700] I've got a motion to disqualify the officials, basically one.
[52:43.700 --> 52:49.660] I pretty much plagiarized parts of what Brandy had on his motion to disqualify.
[52:49.660 --> 52:50.660] Send me an email.
[52:50.660 --> 52:52.580] I'll give you some more stuff to plagiarize.
[52:52.580 --> 52:55.260] I've been working on those documents precisely.
[52:55.260 --> 53:02.140] I mean, the one you have there fit really pretty good because evidently they do the
[53:02.140 --> 53:03.740] same thing every time.
[53:03.740 --> 53:06.780] Yes, piece of cake.
[53:06.780 --> 53:09.980] Those criminal complaints are going in in the morning and then after that I'm going
[53:09.980 --> 53:17.980] to the court to file a motion to disqualify and I'm going to deliver them and deliver
[53:17.980 --> 53:24.660] them to the district attorney with witnesses, my criminal complaints.
[53:24.660 --> 53:26.220] Make sure they're verified.
[53:26.220 --> 53:30.140] They will be verified, each and every one.
[53:30.140 --> 53:31.140] Yes.
[53:31.140 --> 53:39.300] Each one has the same probable cause or yes, the statement of probable cause and goes from
[53:39.300 --> 53:41.500] the officer all the way to the judge.
[53:41.500 --> 53:47.340] Now the other thing is I was going to do the district attorney because he's actually, you
[53:47.340 --> 53:52.540] know, responded superior to the assistant district attorney, but I need somebody to
[53:52.540 --> 53:53.540] get him to.
[53:53.540 --> 53:56.540] Oh, it doesn't matter.
[53:56.540 --> 54:04.020] The law doesn't say anything about you give them to him since he is the accused.
[54:04.020 --> 54:05.620] He has to move the court.
[54:05.620 --> 54:09.380] He has to disqualify himself.
[54:09.380 --> 54:10.380] Now this is in law.
[54:10.380 --> 54:11.380] None of it's going to go through.
[54:11.380 --> 54:12.380] I don't know.
[54:12.380 --> 54:13.380] Things are getting ugly.
[54:13.380 --> 54:14.380] Is this in Travis County?
[54:14.380 --> 54:15.380] No, this is in Montgomery County, Texas.
[54:15.380 --> 54:16.380] Montgomery.
[54:16.380 --> 54:17.380] Oh, good.
[54:17.380 --> 54:18.380] There's a certain judge down there.
[54:18.380 --> 54:19.380] I still owe one.
[54:19.380 --> 54:36.260] Well, this is just the JP at the present time and I mean it is so in your face the way they
[54:36.260 --> 54:37.260] do things.
[54:37.260 --> 54:38.260] Yeah.
[54:38.260 --> 54:40.140] Oh, I know the district attorney down.
[54:40.140 --> 54:43.140] He'll probably recognize my documents.
[54:43.140 --> 54:44.140] Good.
[54:44.140 --> 54:47.140] I hope so.
[54:47.140 --> 54:54.380] I mean, he needs to wake up the people learning what they're doing.
[54:54.380 --> 55:00.420] I don't know if he's aware of it or not, but it was because of Montgomery County that I
[55:00.420 --> 55:09.380] put all of the judges of the court of criminal appeals in front of a grand jury and he was
[55:09.380 --> 55:10.380] all over that.
[55:10.380 --> 55:14.100] Well, this is going to be very interesting tomorrow morning.
[55:14.100 --> 55:19.820] So I'm going with witnesses when I go to hand deliver everything.
[55:19.820 --> 55:20.820] Oh, good.
[55:20.820 --> 55:22.940] Well, this is exactly what people need to be doing.
[55:22.940 --> 55:23.940] Good for you, Jim.
[55:23.940 --> 55:24.940] No, no.
[55:24.940 --> 55:36.220] I had a question though on your motion to disqualify like the judge.
[55:36.220 --> 55:41.540] Did you file that with the district attorney too or the prosecuting attorney?
[55:41.540 --> 55:43.540] Everything goes to the prosecutor.
[55:43.540 --> 55:44.540] Yeah.
[55:44.540 --> 55:45.540] Or you can take it to...
[55:45.540 --> 55:50.420] It depends on who you want to engage.
[55:50.420 --> 55:53.100] The judge or the JP?
[55:53.100 --> 55:57.700] If you want to tie up the JP's, what I like to do is go to the district judge and get
[55:57.700 --> 56:02.900] him to refuse to take a complaint and then take my complaint against the district judge
[56:02.900 --> 56:08.060] to the justice of the peace and that gets them jumping up and down.
[56:08.060 --> 56:14.740] Well, see the justice of the peace court is where all of the stuff started so the justice
[56:14.740 --> 56:20.300] of the peace is actually a part of this by allowing the clerks and stuff to do things
[56:20.300 --> 56:21.300] in his name.
[56:21.300 --> 56:25.380] Well, there are other justices of the peace.
[56:25.380 --> 56:26.380] Absolutely.
[56:26.380 --> 56:30.540] There are four different districts in Montgomery County.
[56:30.540 --> 56:37.860] If you want to engage one of them, when I do this, it kind of depends on who I want
[56:37.860 --> 56:41.500] to engage and involve in it.
[56:41.500 --> 56:50.220] Generally, if I'm going to take on a jurisdiction, I want everybody disqualified so I tend to
[56:50.220 --> 56:53.460] kind of work my way through them.
[56:53.460 --> 56:57.140] I'm getting close to going back to Williamson County.
[56:57.140 --> 57:02.300] I haven't worked my way through all the judges and magistrates there so that when I get to
[57:02.300 --> 57:11.540] the grand jury, I can show every judge in the jurisdiction is a low-down, rotten, belly-crawling,
[57:11.540 --> 57:12.540] scummy criminal.
[57:12.540 --> 57:23.180] Well, after I do this, my intention is to go through their alleged, what do you call
[57:23.180 --> 57:24.180] it?
[57:24.180 --> 57:26.180] The hearings they have?
[57:26.180 --> 57:34.940] Yeah, they're hearings when they summon you for a hearing or not.
[57:34.940 --> 57:44.860] Here in Travis County, they are summoning people for a pre-trial hearing and what they
[57:44.860 --> 57:49.660] want to know is, do you have an attorney?
[57:49.660 --> 57:55.180] If you tell them no, they tell you, well, go home and get one and then come back.
[57:55.180 --> 58:04.420] Well, I was there with a friend of mine's son and they told him that and I gave the
[58:04.420 --> 58:09.500] judge a criminal complaint that I'll explain when we get back, it was good because it was
[58:09.500 --> 58:10.500] the judge's first day.
[58:10.500 --> 58:11.500] Welcome to the deep end of the pool.
[58:11.500 --> 58:12.500] We'll be right back.
[58:12.500 --> 58:23.220] Yes, we'll be right back and we've got other callers on the line as well and we will continue
[58:23.220 --> 58:26.940] to take your calls and you're welcome to hang on the line, Jim, to the other side.
[58:26.940 --> 58:33.700] All right, this is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, ruleoflawradio.com.
[58:33.700 --> 58:34.700] We'll be right back.
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[01:00:03.300 --> 01:00:31.660] Thank you very much.
[01:01:03.300 --> 01:01:28.220] We've got Jim from Texas, Andrea from California is going to be next.
[01:01:28.220 --> 01:01:31.860] I believe she is a new caller Andrea, I'm sorry I put you off.
[01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:37.340] I thought these other callers were going to be on point about the blood thing.
[01:01:37.340 --> 01:01:42.500] So at any rate, Jim, do you have anything else for us?
[01:01:42.500 --> 01:01:52.260] Mainly, that was my main thing is I wanted to talk about the complaints going in because
[01:01:52.260 --> 01:01:59.300] of the, I mean it's not actually on point but it is real similar to the abuse by the
[01:01:59.300 --> 01:02:00.300] courts.
[01:02:00.300 --> 01:02:05.180] This is why we're here, it's for guys like you.
[01:02:05.180 --> 01:02:11.140] The whole thing is that, you know, the assistant attorney, you know, district attorney held
[01:02:11.140 --> 01:02:12.140] an arraignment hearing.
[01:02:12.140 --> 01:02:17.540] I asked him specifically if it was an arraignment, he said yes it was, which he is not qualified
[01:02:17.540 --> 01:02:18.540] to hold.
[01:02:18.540 --> 01:02:19.540] Wait, he held it?
[01:02:19.540 --> 01:02:21.660] Yes, he held the arraignment hearing.
[01:02:21.660 --> 01:02:22.660] Did you file?
[01:02:22.660 --> 01:02:32.300] No magistrate, I asked him in court, I asked the bailiff if this was an arraignment and
[01:02:32.300 --> 01:02:37.740] the district attorney, they both said in open and with all the other people there that yes
[01:02:37.740 --> 01:02:38.740] it was.
[01:02:38.740 --> 01:02:43.180] What was the level of the criminal accusation?
[01:02:43.180 --> 01:02:45.180] Ticket for no driver's license.
[01:02:45.180 --> 01:02:51.260] You know, have you ever read the statute on arraignment?
[01:02:51.260 --> 01:02:59.780] Yes sir, only for a felony or a state jail time misdemeanor so, and that is all in my
[01:02:59.780 --> 01:03:00.780] complaint.
[01:03:00.780 --> 01:03:01.780] Good man.
[01:03:01.780 --> 01:03:11.180] Absolutely every bit of it so, I mean I went through this and I really, I intend for the
[01:03:11.180 --> 01:03:15.580] DA when he reads these and I think at least he'll read them whether he does anything with
[01:03:15.580 --> 01:03:20.260] them or not, he's going to mess in his mesquite.
[01:03:20.260 --> 01:03:22.860] I hope so.
[01:03:22.860 --> 01:03:30.260] And I don't think, you know, that they'll, I mean there's no way they can prosecute this
[01:03:30.260 --> 01:03:35.380] but it's going to be very interesting so I just want to let you know that that's what
[01:03:35.380 --> 01:03:41.660] I am doing and basically I've learned so much from you guys and I appreciate everything
[01:03:41.660 --> 01:03:42.660] you do so.
[01:03:42.660 --> 01:03:45.780] This is exactly the reason we're on the air.
[01:03:45.780 --> 01:03:50.540] I'm trying to get other people involved in the same thing, not to put themselves in a
[01:03:50.540 --> 01:03:51.860] position but to learn.
[01:03:51.860 --> 01:03:57.860] To learn, exactly and once they realize that when you go in and kick these guys in the
[01:03:57.860 --> 01:04:02.140] teeth there's nothing they can do.
[01:04:02.140 --> 01:04:07.380] That it really does bind them up, we really do have this power and it doesn't take many
[01:04:07.380 --> 01:04:08.380] of us.
[01:04:08.380 --> 01:04:13.220] I mean look at your county, how many kicks in the teeth is that prosecutor going to need
[01:04:13.220 --> 01:04:18.020] before he says whoa, enough of this.
[01:04:18.020 --> 01:04:23.260] And as far as the taking blood, I've heard it said that that is because you're under
[01:04:23.260 --> 01:04:29.260] some kind of contract via the driver's license to do that but the law says and the case law
[01:04:29.260 --> 01:04:37.300] says that the driver's license is not a contract, all the driver's license is is a mere privilege.
[01:04:37.300 --> 01:04:38.940] That's what it looked like to me.
[01:04:38.940 --> 01:04:40.260] That's exactly what the case law says.
[01:04:40.260 --> 01:04:43.380] Wait a minute, the case law says it's not a contract?
[01:04:43.380 --> 01:04:45.980] It is not a contract, it is a mere privilege.
[01:04:45.980 --> 01:04:46.980] Wow.
[01:04:46.980 --> 01:04:47.980] Can you send me that?
[01:04:47.980 --> 01:04:48.980] Yes I can.
[01:04:48.980 --> 01:04:49.980] Oh, wonderful.
[01:04:49.980 --> 01:04:50.980] Oh, absolutely.
[01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:51.980] That's great.
[01:04:51.980 --> 01:04:58.460] I mean that is, I mean because I thought it was a contract and it is not a contract according
[01:04:58.460 --> 01:04:59.460] to the law.
[01:04:59.460 --> 01:05:00.460] That's great.
[01:05:00.460 --> 01:05:02.700] But I will send that to you Andy.
[01:05:02.700 --> 01:05:03.700] Thank you.
[01:05:03.700 --> 01:05:10.820] And if you will please send me any other information that you have as far as, you know, on your
[01:05:10.820 --> 01:05:11.820] website.
[01:05:11.820 --> 01:05:12.820] I will send you my latest documents.
[01:05:12.820 --> 01:05:16.460] Okay, I appreciate it and I'll get that on the way to you.
[01:05:16.460 --> 01:05:17.460] Wonderful.
[01:05:17.460 --> 01:05:18.460] Thank you.
[01:05:18.460 --> 01:05:19.460] Thank you guys and keep up the good work.
[01:05:19.460 --> 01:05:23.900] All right, we're going to go to Andrea next and I just wanted to clarify something.
[01:05:23.900 --> 01:05:32.020] I just got a chat from our call screen saying that I kept saying mothers for drunk driving
[01:05:32.020 --> 01:05:38.300] and it must have been some kind of a psychological slip because Randy told me this morning that
[01:05:38.300 --> 01:05:43.460] the woman who started Mothers Against Drunk Driving, after she formed the, after she started
[01:05:43.460 --> 01:05:46.700] that whole organization, she got arrested for drunk driving.
[01:05:46.700 --> 01:05:50.620] So that must have just been in my mind all day.
[01:05:50.620 --> 01:05:52.980] That's why I was saying mothers for drunk driving.
[01:05:52.980 --> 01:05:54.980] But in all honesty.
[01:05:54.980 --> 01:05:56.860] Oh my goodness.
[01:05:56.860 --> 01:06:02.380] In all honesty, you know, when I thought about that, I thought.
[01:06:02.380 --> 01:06:03.380] It makes sense really.
[01:06:03.380 --> 01:06:10.140] Oh, that sounds like the kind of crapola someone would do to discredit them.
[01:06:10.140 --> 01:06:11.140] Huh.
[01:06:11.140 --> 01:06:16.860] But, you know, when I thought about it, you know, it wouldn't be the police that would
[01:06:16.860 --> 01:06:19.100] discredit them because police would be on their side.
[01:06:19.100 --> 01:06:20.100] So it's probably not.
[01:06:20.100 --> 01:06:23.580] She probably just goofed up like people do.
[01:06:23.580 --> 01:06:24.580] Yeah.
[01:06:24.580 --> 01:06:25.580] And got popped.
[01:06:25.580 --> 01:06:27.540] Yeah.
[01:06:27.540 --> 01:06:30.260] And maybe it'll make her a little more understanding.
[01:06:30.260 --> 01:06:32.940] Yeah, no kidding.
[01:06:32.940 --> 01:06:37.380] Not being much of a drinker, you know, and I don't really have much sympathy for drunk
[01:06:37.380 --> 01:06:40.380] drivers.
[01:06:40.380 --> 01:06:43.340] But with what I do, I can't let that interfere.
[01:06:43.340 --> 01:06:44.340] I know.
[01:06:44.340 --> 01:06:45.340] I know.
[01:06:45.340 --> 01:06:47.220] It doesn't matter what the merits of the case are really.
[01:06:47.220 --> 01:06:49.820] We have to have, we have to have due process.
[01:06:49.820 --> 01:06:53.300] I remember, I'm just going to tell this one quick story and we're going straight to Andrea.
[01:06:53.300 --> 01:06:57.420] I remember when we were in Williamson County at the courthouse, well, one of the times
[01:06:57.420 --> 01:07:02.900] we were there, and we were sitting in the court.
[01:07:02.900 --> 01:07:08.580] They were conducting jury and paneling and while Randy was waiting to talk to the judge
[01:07:08.580 --> 01:07:17.980] about something and they were asking a question, it had to do, it was a sex offender accusation
[01:07:17.980 --> 01:07:23.140] and had to do a child sex offender accusation, I believe.
[01:07:23.140 --> 01:07:30.420] And the question was, the defense attorney was questioning the pool of potential jurors,
[01:07:30.420 --> 01:07:39.740] asking them how would they feel, would they be able to acquit his client if they found
[01:07:39.740 --> 01:07:47.540] out that the client's rights had been violated during the process of his arrest and just
[01:07:47.540 --> 01:07:49.980] the whole procedure leading up to this trial.
[01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:58.500] If the basic due process had been violated and if his fundamental rights had been violated,
[01:07:58.500 --> 01:08:00.860] would they be able to acquit the client?
[01:08:00.860 --> 01:08:05.940] And this one woman said, none of that matters.
[01:08:05.940 --> 01:08:09.380] All that matters is did he do it or not.
[01:08:09.380 --> 01:08:16.740] It doesn't matter how the police obtained their evidence that right, respecting rights
[01:08:16.740 --> 01:08:18.260] and due process didn't matter.
[01:08:18.260 --> 01:08:21.260] All that mattered was this person guilty or not.
[01:08:21.260 --> 01:08:24.500] And my jaw nearly hit the floor.
[01:08:24.500 --> 01:08:30.940] I mean, this is what our society is coming to, that even people in the general public
[01:08:30.940 --> 01:08:38.500] have no respect for due process, have no respect for fundamental basic rights, inherent unalienable
[01:08:38.500 --> 01:08:39.740] rights.
[01:08:39.740 --> 01:08:44.820] All that matters is obtaining the evidence by whatever means.
[01:08:44.820 --> 01:08:50.100] I was like, lady, you don't know what you're saying.
[01:08:50.100 --> 01:08:51.100] I was floored.
[01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:52.100] I couldn't believe it.
[01:08:52.100 --> 01:08:57.340] So yeah, we've got to protect fundamental due process principles.
[01:08:57.340 --> 01:08:58.340] That's just all there is to it.
[01:08:58.340 --> 01:09:00.860] All right, we're going to go now to Andrea in California.
[01:09:00.860 --> 01:09:03.700] Andrea, I'm sorry we made you wait.
[01:09:03.700 --> 01:09:04.700] Thank you for holding.
[01:09:04.700 --> 01:09:06.700] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:09:06.700 --> 01:09:11.900] Well, it's actually kind of interesting because I called right as you were starting the show.
[01:09:11.900 --> 01:09:18.420] You hadn't spoke yet, but for the past week, I have been trying to research the submission
[01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:22.260] of chemical testing with the California driver's license.
[01:09:22.260 --> 01:09:28.380] And one of the things that was concerning me was that when you sign for your driver's
[01:09:28.380 --> 01:09:33.620] license, it actually reads, I agreed to submit to a chemical test of my blood, breath, or
[01:09:33.620 --> 01:09:38.980] urine for the purpose of determining the alcohol or drug content of my blood when testing is
[01:09:38.980 --> 01:09:47.540] requested by a police officer acting in accordance with vehicle code 23137 or 23157.
[01:09:47.540 --> 01:09:49.140] Now it gets better.
[01:09:49.140 --> 01:09:55.260] I have for a week been trying to track down these two sections of the vehicle code on
[01:09:55.260 --> 01:10:02.140] the DMV and also on your links and the internet, the entire internet actually, haven't been
[01:10:02.140 --> 01:10:04.780] able to find these vehicle codes anywhere.
[01:10:04.780 --> 01:10:06.260] The California vehicle codes?
[01:10:06.260 --> 01:10:08.420] No, no, no, no, the sections.
[01:10:08.420 --> 01:10:10.020] I can find the vehicle code.
[01:10:10.020 --> 01:10:13.620] You can't find those sections?
[01:10:13.620 --> 01:10:14.780] Email it to me.
[01:10:14.780 --> 01:10:16.180] I'll check it on Lexus.
[01:10:16.180 --> 01:10:18.500] If it exists, it'll be there.
[01:10:18.500 --> 01:10:19.860] Okay, great.
[01:10:19.860 --> 01:10:27.180] Because one person told me it was because they were amended, but the only reference
[01:10:27.180 --> 01:10:34.180] I can find to that on the internet is on the DMV, it does state on one of the other sections
[01:10:34.180 --> 01:10:41.980] that it was code amended from a section of the section of 23157.
[01:10:41.980 --> 01:10:47.220] That wouldn't stop it from being on, just because they amended it, the amended version
[01:10:47.220 --> 01:10:49.740] would be online, would be available.
[01:10:49.740 --> 01:10:50.740] Exactly.
[01:10:50.740 --> 01:10:54.340] That's what I thought, too, and I haven't found it, so if you help me with that, that'd
[01:10:54.340 --> 01:10:55.340] be awesome.
[01:10:55.340 --> 01:11:02.580] What is your email that I could send this to?
[01:11:02.580 --> 01:11:06.500] Emily at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:11:06.500 --> 01:11:15.420] Okay, and it brings up the issue, because I heard Deborah gasp when she heard me read
[01:11:15.420 --> 01:11:25.020] it, and that is that, let's just say this vehicle code section do exist.
[01:11:25.020 --> 01:11:31.860] When they're signing something that says what I quoted, now is that, I mean, just having
[01:11:31.860 --> 01:11:36.300] a driver's license then means you agree to submit to these chemical tests.
[01:11:36.300 --> 01:11:44.060] Well, the thing about that is, that's not a tenet of a contract that can be enforced.
[01:11:44.060 --> 01:11:48.780] Okay, yeah, someone was saying it was, or you were saying it was a privilege, or somebody
[01:11:48.780 --> 01:11:49.780] was saying it was a private contract.
[01:11:49.780 --> 01:11:53.580] Yes, and he's saying it's not a contract, and when you said that, I was thinking of
[01:11:53.580 --> 01:12:00.980] asking Jim where he got this, what state, and he's probably talking about Texas.
[01:12:00.980 --> 01:12:02.620] Yeah, I'm sure he is.
[01:12:02.620 --> 01:12:10.700] I would like to see if it says that about California, because we're talking about traffic
[01:12:10.700 --> 01:12:17.660] code, so this is state specific, whereas some of the things we talk about are not, that
[01:12:17.660 --> 01:12:20.500] goes to general due process.
[01:12:20.500 --> 01:12:27.100] I would like to look that up, if you send me that, if I can find it on Lexus, I can
[01:12:27.100 --> 01:12:31.500] pull it with all the case law and annotations, and I'll send that back to you.
[01:12:31.500 --> 01:12:40.740] Awesome, now, should I also go to, would it be good if I went to the DMV and asked them
[01:12:40.740 --> 01:12:42.580] to show me this code?
[01:12:42.580 --> 01:12:45.860] It would do very good, take a tape recorder with you.
[01:12:45.860 --> 01:12:46.860] Okay.
[01:12:46.860 --> 01:12:50.460] I love this stuff.
[01:12:50.460 --> 01:12:59.660] You will find that once you become somewhat knowledgeable, one of the things it does more
[01:12:59.660 --> 01:13:03.700] than any other is it calms you.
[01:13:03.700 --> 01:13:05.180] People say, well, how can you do this?
[01:13:05.180 --> 01:13:11.540] Well, after I've done this a while, I know the law, they don't, so I'm real comfortable
[01:13:11.540 --> 01:13:18.380] with where I'm standing, and what becomes clear to you quickly is these bozos don't
[01:13:18.380 --> 01:13:19.380] have a clue.
[01:13:19.380 --> 01:13:23.580] Yeah, and what you're saying about calming, Randy, it's really true, because ignorance
[01:13:23.580 --> 01:13:25.260] breeds fear.
[01:13:25.260 --> 01:13:30.580] People are afraid of the unknown, for the most part, and once you have that knowledge,
[01:13:30.580 --> 01:13:32.180] you're not afraid anymore.
[01:13:32.180 --> 01:13:39.780] Absolutely, absolutely, because I've been doing this, I've been looking through the
[01:13:39.780 --> 01:13:46.260] constitutionality of certain laws and what have you for the past couple months, and I've
[01:13:46.260 --> 01:13:50.820] noticed when I bring things up to our board of supervisors and what have you, and they're
[01:13:50.820 --> 01:13:58.860] not following, I'm not as bold to do the things that you were doing as far as calling
[01:13:58.860 --> 01:14:02.100] them in front of the grand jury and what have you, but I have caught them, and they
[01:14:02.100 --> 01:14:04.420] have changed their tune as soon as I caught them.
[01:14:04.420 --> 01:14:06.620] Good for you, Andrea.
[01:14:06.620 --> 01:14:09.700] This is why we do this show.
[01:14:09.700 --> 01:14:13.980] Yeah, and that's why I called you, because I've been listening to you guys for quite
[01:14:13.980 --> 01:14:21.340] a while, I write down pretty much everything you say, but if I have a question, like tonight,
[01:14:21.340 --> 01:14:24.860] it was just really strange that you guys happened to be on this subject, because I've been searching
[01:14:24.860 --> 01:14:32.740] for the last week on it, and good luck with you guys, you won't need it, you won't, trust
[01:14:32.740 --> 01:14:34.940] me, you guys do great.
[01:14:34.940 --> 01:14:40.460] But yeah, thank you, I will look forward to that information, and I will probably be going
[01:14:40.460 --> 01:14:43.340] to the DMV as soon as I get it.
[01:14:43.340 --> 01:14:51.420] I can't wait to see the look on, I can't even pronounce the guy's name, Acida Vito, I can't
[01:14:51.420 --> 01:14:55.340] pronounce the Chief of Police name, but I can't wait to see the look on the Chief of
[01:14:55.340 --> 01:15:03.060] Police's face when Randy Kelton tells him what he's going to do if this guy insists
[01:15:03.060 --> 01:15:04.060] on doing this.
[01:15:04.060 --> 01:15:05.060] Oh, absolutely.
[01:15:05.060 --> 01:15:07.180] It's going to be great.
[01:15:07.180 --> 01:15:12.940] It's just, the whole thing is, you know, Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights just down the drain.
[01:15:12.940 --> 01:15:13.940] Totally.
[01:15:13.940 --> 01:15:17.980] Yeah, and once they realize, you know, the thing, you know, you said you weren't brave
[01:15:17.980 --> 01:15:25.180] enough to do the grand jury thing yet, let me tell you what the easiest and safest possible
[01:15:25.180 --> 01:15:26.180] thing to do is.
[01:15:26.180 --> 01:15:27.180] Go to the grand jury.
[01:15:27.180 --> 01:15:28.180] Oh, really?
[01:15:28.180 --> 01:15:29.180] You bet.
[01:15:29.180 --> 01:15:33.180] You go to the grand jury, everybody says, holy crap, holy crap.
[01:15:33.180 --> 01:15:39.660] Well, and also, you have to remember, the grand jury is your, they are your peers, and
[01:15:39.660 --> 01:15:43.300] they want to hear, they will be a very receptive audience.
[01:15:43.300 --> 01:15:47.180] Well, that was actually another question for another show I was going to call in, but I'll
[01:15:47.180 --> 01:15:55.380] just say it real quick, and that is, you know, here, they actually put the application for
[01:15:55.380 --> 01:16:00.820] the grand jury, they actually do it almost like a job search type thing where they advertise
[01:16:00.820 --> 01:16:01.820] it in the newspaper.
[01:16:01.820 --> 01:16:03.860] Oh, go get on a grand jury yourself?
[01:16:03.860 --> 01:16:07.860] And then you get an application, and then they do that.
[01:16:07.860 --> 01:16:12.140] So, my friend, I'm actually, I can't do it, I'm in a wheelchair, and-
[01:16:12.140 --> 01:16:13.140] That doesn't matter.
[01:16:13.140 --> 01:16:16.220] No, I know, but I can't sit for very long at all.
[01:16:16.220 --> 01:16:18.340] So, my friend is going to do it.
[01:16:18.340 --> 01:16:20.940] I'm going to put my friend up to it.
[01:16:20.940 --> 01:16:21.940] So-
[01:16:21.940 --> 01:16:22.940] Good.
[01:16:22.940 --> 01:16:24.940] It will be a great experience.
[01:16:24.940 --> 01:16:26.940] Well, that's good, yeah.
[01:16:26.940 --> 01:16:31.580] That's something we learned recently about the grand jury, about how your vote can really
[01:16:31.580 --> 01:16:32.580] count that way.
[01:16:32.580 --> 01:16:33.580] Absolutely.
[01:16:33.580 --> 01:16:38.460] So, I really, like I said, I appreciate everything you guys do, and I'll let you guys go, because
[01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:40.460] I can hear the music queuing up.
[01:16:40.460 --> 01:16:41.460] All right.
[01:16:41.460 --> 01:16:42.460] Thank you for calling in, Andrea.
[01:16:42.460 --> 01:16:43.460] Thank you so much.
[01:16:43.460 --> 01:16:44.780] And you keep up the good work.
[01:16:44.780 --> 01:16:45.780] Uh-huh.
[01:16:45.780 --> 01:16:46.780] Thanks.
[01:16:46.780 --> 01:16:47.780] All right.
[01:16:47.780 --> 01:16:48.780] We'll be back after this break.
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[01:18:56.580 --> 01:19:01.580] We're going to go now to Travis, I'm sorry, Travis from Minnesota.
[01:19:01.580 --> 01:19:03.940] We also have Randy from Austin, Jonathan from Texas.
[01:19:03.940 --> 01:19:06.060] We're going to go now to Randy from Austin.
[01:19:06.060 --> 01:19:08.660] All right, Randy, thanks for calling in.
[01:19:08.660 --> 01:19:09.660] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:19:09.660 --> 01:19:10.660] What do you got for us?
[01:19:10.660 --> 01:19:13.660] Well, it's not about the dog tonight.
[01:19:13.660 --> 01:19:16.260] Oh, I wanted to hear about the dog.
[01:19:16.260 --> 01:19:21.460] We were wondering if they held your dog down and forced him to submit blood.
[01:19:21.460 --> 01:19:25.460] Well, they did hold it down and put a chip in it one time, but...
[01:19:25.460 --> 01:19:28.100] Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that.
[01:19:28.100 --> 01:19:30.300] That's been the other big topic lately.
[01:19:30.300 --> 01:19:37.060] At some point when I get a chance, I'm going to go after them on that.
[01:19:37.060 --> 01:19:44.140] I've been wrestling with an idea here about, it seems to me, we have a huge problem.
[01:19:44.140 --> 01:19:47.260] How do we accomplish our goal?
[01:19:47.260 --> 01:19:55.420] I think what we should do is myself, I'm volunteering here on the radio, and you guys and whoever
[01:19:55.420 --> 01:20:00.700] else wants to jump in, but we focus totally on Travis County and we take this county
[01:20:00.700 --> 01:20:01.700] back.
[01:20:01.700 --> 01:20:05.300] If we get this county, then we can get the state.
[01:20:05.300 --> 01:20:07.340] That is a good point.
[01:20:07.340 --> 01:20:15.820] When I got arrested at the Secretary of State's building, I was thinking, thank you, God.
[01:20:15.820 --> 01:20:17.660] You gave me the one I needed.
[01:20:17.660 --> 01:20:20.340] Not only did they give me Travis County...
[01:20:20.340 --> 01:20:22.340] Oh, Williamson, too.
[01:20:22.340 --> 01:20:25.220] Yeah, they gave me Williamson, too.
[01:20:25.220 --> 01:20:35.340] But they gave me the policing agency of statewide jurisdiction that sets the pace for all other
[01:20:35.340 --> 01:20:37.780] policing agencies.
[01:20:37.780 --> 01:20:44.860] They didn't just give me that agency, they gave me the elite of that agency, the Capitol
[01:20:44.860 --> 01:20:45.860] Police.
[01:20:45.860 --> 01:20:48.700] Wasn't it the system state troopers, Randy?
[01:20:48.700 --> 01:20:51.220] Yeah, the state troopers.
[01:20:51.220 --> 01:20:56.100] They're the ones that guard the governor and all of our politicians.
[01:20:56.100 --> 01:20:57.460] These are the elite.
[01:20:57.460 --> 01:21:02.220] These are the very ones that pull this crapola.
[01:21:02.220 --> 01:21:10.940] Now I get to go after them, if we take them down, and I fully intend to, then every other
[01:21:10.940 --> 01:21:16.780] policing agency in the state is going to have to look really close at what goes on here.
[01:21:16.780 --> 01:21:24.620] Well, I guess what I'm saying is we need to get the numbers and we need to hit every single
[01:21:24.620 --> 01:21:29.420] agency that we can focus upon in this county, in this county alone.
[01:21:29.420 --> 01:21:37.940] And we go at them from left, right, up, down, bottom, top, and I don't want to do it.
[01:21:37.940 --> 01:21:41.860] And this guy, Acevedo, I want him, he's in my targets.
[01:21:41.860 --> 01:21:42.860] No kidding.
[01:21:42.860 --> 01:21:44.420] Because what I want to do is evil.
[01:21:44.420 --> 01:21:48.020] Acevedo, yeah, that's the chief of police here in Austin.
[01:21:48.020 --> 01:21:49.020] Okay.
[01:21:49.020 --> 01:21:55.820] I am in the process of cranking up the litigation engine I've been working on so long, and we're
[01:21:55.820 --> 01:21:59.100] going to crank it up here in Austin.
[01:21:59.100 --> 01:22:00.100] This guy is not going to be...
[01:22:00.100 --> 01:22:01.100] Tell me where to go.
[01:22:01.100 --> 01:22:02.100] I'm there.
[01:22:02.100 --> 01:22:07.220] I mean, all I need to know is how we're going to go at them, and I've got my own ideas.
[01:22:07.220 --> 01:22:13.820] But I want to walk this place down with so much stuff that they can't move.
[01:22:13.820 --> 01:22:14.820] What we're going to do...
[01:22:14.820 --> 01:22:15.820] Yeah, for real.
[01:22:15.820 --> 01:22:16.820] ...is absolutely screwed.
[01:22:16.820 --> 01:22:22.420] What we're going to do is get the attorney's list.
[01:22:22.420 --> 01:22:26.180] Attorneys buy a list of everybody who was arrested.
[01:22:26.180 --> 01:22:29.980] Two days after I get out of jail, I start getting letters from attorneys who want to
[01:22:29.980 --> 01:22:30.980] represent me.
[01:22:30.980 --> 01:22:35.300] I'm thinking, guys, you've got to be out of your minds.
[01:22:35.300 --> 01:22:38.940] Well, they don't know who you are, Andy.
[01:22:38.940 --> 01:22:46.180] So we get the list, and we do a mailing to them.
[01:22:46.180 --> 01:22:52.100] I was writing that up today, and it starts out with the most dangerous man in the courtroom,
[01:22:52.100 --> 01:22:53.100] your attorney.
[01:22:53.100 --> 01:22:58.900] Yeah, and then they're going to get that letter at the same time that all these attorneys
[01:22:58.900 --> 01:23:02.860] are sending these people letters, because we get the same list.
[01:23:02.860 --> 01:23:07.740] We're going to start doing a seminar, and we'll set them up.
[01:23:07.740 --> 01:23:17.620] I'm looking at one every weekend, one here in Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and
[01:23:17.620 --> 01:23:19.900] we'll have to kick some around to get up to Amarillo.
[01:23:19.900 --> 01:23:24.500] I'm going to try to get some people up there.
[01:23:24.500 --> 01:23:32.380] We will start hitting these guys with so many lawsuits from so many different people that
[01:23:32.380 --> 01:23:35.420] they're not going to be able to keep up with them.
[01:23:35.420 --> 01:23:40.940] They will have absolutely no option but to fix it.
[01:23:40.940 --> 01:23:43.620] Well, I like the idea.
[01:23:43.620 --> 01:23:48.580] I'm just saying, it seems to me that because the Travis County grand juries are special,
[01:23:48.580 --> 01:23:55.660] that if we can get political control of this county, then we can fix everything else and
[01:23:55.660 --> 01:24:04.020] get this state, and once we get this state, then we can go fix the monster in D.C.
[01:24:04.020 --> 01:24:06.260] That's been the plan from the beginning, really.
[01:24:06.260 --> 01:24:14.860] You know, I've been doing this some 30 years, and over that time, it's kind of hard to think
[01:24:14.860 --> 01:24:22.060] that, yeah, you can come around here and rattle your saber and change the world, right, Bubba?
[01:24:22.060 --> 01:24:23.500] Yeah, but we can.
[01:24:23.500 --> 01:24:24.740] But now?
[01:24:24.740 --> 01:24:25.740] It's looking like we can.
[01:24:25.740 --> 01:24:27.220] Yeah, it really is.
[01:24:27.220 --> 01:24:32.540] Yeah, and definitely, you know, we need to fix the state courts first so we can fix the
[01:24:32.540 --> 01:24:37.180] federal courts, and once the federal courts are in a little bit better shape and the situation
[01:24:37.180 --> 01:24:43.820] of federal grand juries is a little more reasonable, then I can take 9-11 into the courts.
[01:24:43.820 --> 01:24:46.660] That's the whole reason I started down this path to begin with.
[01:24:46.660 --> 01:24:53.980] Right, but I guess what I'm saying is focus on one county is because this is the premier
[01:24:53.980 --> 01:24:54.980] county.
[01:24:54.980 --> 01:24:57.420] Oh, that's why, exactly, because it's the seat of government.
[01:24:57.420 --> 01:25:02.940] And I'm here, and I can bring people, and if you guys, if Randy can step up and help
[01:25:02.940 --> 01:25:11.300] us learn and teach us, I will go and wage a total uncompromising war against these folks
[01:25:11.300 --> 01:25:12.780] because I'm at it.
[01:25:12.780 --> 01:25:14.540] That's what we need.
[01:25:14.540 --> 01:25:21.300] I'm calling this rule of law school, so that's my purpose.
[01:25:21.300 --> 01:25:26.300] I can go out here and I can kick these guys around and I can beat them up and I can sue
[01:25:26.300 --> 01:25:32.380] them and I can file criminal charges until hell freezes over and make no difference.
[01:25:32.380 --> 01:25:39.620] And since the chief of police here wants to do this illegal blood draw thing, and because
[01:25:39.620 --> 01:25:44.540] it's Austin, we lay down the law here and it's not going to happen anywhere else in
[01:25:44.540 --> 01:25:46.020] the rest of the state either.
[01:25:46.020 --> 01:25:51.540] Yeah, exactly, but you're going to need more troops on the ground and I'm volunteering.
[01:25:51.540 --> 01:25:52.540] Yep, alright.
[01:25:52.540 --> 01:25:56.380] So, we'll go when to be and we'll get it done.
[01:25:56.380 --> 01:25:57.380] Excellent.
[01:25:57.380 --> 01:26:00.780] Well, we are going to get it done.
[01:26:00.780 --> 01:26:03.740] Not getting it done is simply not an option.
[01:26:03.740 --> 01:26:04.740] It's not an option.
[01:26:04.740 --> 01:26:05.740] We have to.
[01:26:05.740 --> 01:26:12.500] We have to make it happen no matter what because we can't have them forcing us to give blood,
[01:26:12.500 --> 01:26:17.220] forcing us to take vaccinations, forcing us and our animals to take chips.
[01:26:17.220 --> 01:26:20.020] We cannot tolerate that at all.
[01:26:20.020 --> 01:26:21.260] This is war, Randy.
[01:26:21.260 --> 01:26:22.260] You're right.
[01:26:22.260 --> 01:26:25.060] This is about survival, okay?
[01:26:25.060 --> 01:26:27.340] This is life or death, for real.
[01:26:27.340 --> 01:26:29.140] We don't have an option.
[01:26:29.140 --> 01:26:35.700] I know it may sound like just a bunch of rah-rah to look at us, look what we can do, but I
[01:26:35.700 --> 01:26:41.820] mean, if you look at it, we really can change this and you know, after 30 years of working
[01:26:41.820 --> 01:26:48.580] on this, I look at it and I'm thinking, this is so ludicrously simple.
[01:26:48.580 --> 01:26:50.460] How did it ever get in this mess?
[01:26:50.460 --> 01:26:55.340] You know, Winston County has already changed procedures where they have the magistrate
[01:26:55.340 --> 01:26:59.820] send the records to the clerk of the court and you know how that happened?
[01:26:59.820 --> 01:27:06.220] It happened with Deborah kicked in the county attorney rights wearing his behind.
[01:27:06.220 --> 01:27:10.580] Yeah, you should have seen the blood drain from his face.
[01:27:10.580 --> 01:27:14.340] And all she did was say, Randy, you know those records you couldn't find in the clerk of
[01:27:14.340 --> 01:27:15.340] the court's office?
[01:27:15.340 --> 01:27:19.060] That folder he's got, is that them?
[01:27:19.060 --> 01:27:23.180] And I had just told him, somebody's got these records and we haven't got them to give them
[01:27:23.180 --> 01:27:24.180] to felony.
[01:27:24.180 --> 01:27:26.380] He's sitting there holding it in his hand.
[01:27:26.380 --> 01:27:31.580] And you know, he did not like that experience, not one little bit.
[01:27:31.580 --> 01:27:34.660] Well, he knew he was guilty of a felony.
[01:27:34.660 --> 01:27:41.980] And then, you know, Deborah stung him good one time and he changes everything.
[01:27:41.980 --> 01:27:42.980] That's incredible.
[01:27:42.980 --> 01:27:45.780] In the most, considered the most corrupt county in the state.
[01:27:45.780 --> 01:27:48.220] It is, it is the most corrupt county in the state.
[01:27:48.220 --> 01:27:52.960] We can change this and it doesn't take everybody.
[01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:58.180] It doesn't take the masses, change never happens by the masses.
[01:27:58.180 --> 01:28:09.300] But back in history, there was always a small group of people who, who mobilized the masses.
[01:28:09.300 --> 01:28:11.040] We don't need many.
[01:28:11.040 --> 01:28:12.580] We will get this changed.
[01:28:12.580 --> 01:28:13.580] Yep.
[01:28:13.580 --> 01:28:14.580] All right.
[01:28:14.580 --> 01:28:15.580] Thank you, Randy.
[01:28:15.580 --> 01:28:16.580] One, two quick things.
[01:28:16.580 --> 01:28:17.580] Okay.
[01:28:17.580 --> 01:28:25.340] Inside information that I've gotten, watch for May 1st, Fort Hood Armored Cav Division
[01:28:25.340 --> 01:28:31.700] starts training about, what is it?
[01:28:31.700 --> 01:28:39.700] The Civil Riot training for Fort Hood, Armored Cav Division this May.
[01:28:39.700 --> 01:28:45.900] And then I'm hearing rumors about the Amaro coming out or something akin to that.
[01:28:45.900 --> 01:28:47.860] We've been hearing those rumors.
[01:28:47.860 --> 01:28:50.620] And, and, and what, and what timeframe, Randy?
[01:28:50.620 --> 01:28:52.660] 120 days.
[01:28:52.660 --> 01:28:55.260] 120 days.
[01:28:55.260 --> 01:29:00.740] That's a little more reasonable timeframe because that will give the, the dollar time
[01:29:00.740 --> 01:29:04.380] to start hyperinflating.
[01:29:04.380 --> 01:29:09.460] And it will hyperinflate and I'll tell you why, because of the actual number of paper
[01:29:09.460 --> 01:29:15.260] bills that they have printed in the, Dr. Bill Veith was telling us in the entire history
[01:29:15.260 --> 01:29:21.900] since the Federal Reserve began, there's only been a trillion dollars actually physically
[01:29:21.900 --> 01:29:22.900] printed.
[01:29:22.900 --> 01:29:26.180] I mean, we say they print money out of thin air all the time, but, but in reality they
[01:29:26.180 --> 01:29:27.180] really don't.
[01:29:27.180 --> 01:29:30.700] It's, they fractionalize it out of thin air.
[01:29:30.700 --> 01:29:37.820] But as far as actual paper printing, the paper bills, there have only been a trillion dollars
[01:29:37.820 --> 01:29:44.660] of, of actual physical paper printed by the Federal Reserve since the, the 1930s, okay,
[01:29:44.660 --> 01:29:46.340] since it began.
[01:29:46.340 --> 01:29:52.620] But within the last month since they did these bailouts, they've print, actually physically
[01:29:52.620 --> 01:30:02.420] printed two trillion dollars more, okay, so they've, they've tripled the supply of paper
[01:30:02.420 --> 01:30:12.500] money, physical paper money in the timeframe of two, of two weeks basically, when it took
[01:30:12.500 --> 01:30:18.540] them, you know, 70 years to print a trillion dollars up until that point.
[01:30:18.540 --> 01:30:26.660] And so what that means is we're talking super hyperinflation is coming our way.
[01:30:26.660 --> 01:30:29.260] There's no question about it.
[01:30:29.260 --> 01:30:30.620] It's not here yet.
[01:30:30.620 --> 01:30:37.040] Actually the, the, there's going to be deflation before that happens because there's a short
[01:30:37.040 --> 01:30:39.440] right now, but hyperinflation is coming.
[01:30:39.440 --> 01:30:43.460] So it doesn't surprise me to hear that, you know, the rumors about the Amaro's coming
[01:30:43.460 --> 01:30:50.660] because once a gallon of gas costs 10 bucks, they're going to have to change something.
[01:30:50.660 --> 01:30:51.660] People won't be able to survive.
[01:30:51.660 --> 01:30:54.020] Yeah, and they know it has to come.
[01:30:54.020 --> 01:31:01.420] If you look at a graph of the increase in the money supply, it rises at about a 5% angle.
[01:31:01.420 --> 01:31:08.220] If you look at the increase in the price of gold and silver, it rises exactly with it
[01:31:08.220 --> 01:31:12.740] because more dollars takes more dollars to buy the hard commodities.
[01:31:12.740 --> 01:31:16.980] In September of this year, the graph went vertical.
[01:31:16.980 --> 01:31:21.580] So theoretically, the price of gold and silver should go vertical.
[01:31:21.580 --> 01:31:27.660] Yep, and, and the, and the thing is, is that all fiat currencies will fail.
[01:31:27.660 --> 01:31:31.180] It's, it is just the nature of fiat currency.
[01:31:31.180 --> 01:31:32.180] It's by design.
[01:31:32.180 --> 01:31:33.180] It will fail.
[01:31:33.180 --> 01:31:36.700] You know, I hear people saying all the time, well, they're trying to crash the economy.
[01:31:36.700 --> 01:31:38.860] They're not really trying to crash the economy.
[01:31:38.860 --> 01:31:40.460] The economy is going to crash anyway.
[01:31:40.460 --> 01:31:42.660] The dollar is going to crash anyway.
[01:31:42.660 --> 01:31:45.660] They may be doing some things to speed it up, but it will crash.
[01:31:45.660 --> 01:31:49.260] All fiat currencies fail since the history of the world.
[01:31:49.260 --> 01:31:52.020] The dollar is not going to be any different.
[01:31:52.020 --> 01:31:53.900] Turmoil is coming.
[01:31:53.900 --> 01:31:58.380] Out of this turmoil comes change.
[01:31:58.380 --> 01:32:02.180] It's up to us to decide what kind of change comes out of it.
[01:32:02.180 --> 01:32:03.180] It's true.
[01:32:03.180 --> 01:32:05.780] We used to talk about people being asleep and awake.
[01:32:05.780 --> 01:32:08.300] You never hear that anymore.
[01:32:08.300 --> 01:32:10.460] Anybody who's not awake now is in a coma.
[01:32:10.460 --> 01:32:11.460] Yeah.
[01:32:11.460 --> 01:32:13.220] So that's not the issue.
[01:32:13.220 --> 01:32:15.900] Now the issue is what do we do about it?
[01:32:15.900 --> 01:32:20.700] And the first thing we want to do is take back our courts.
[01:32:20.700 --> 01:32:26.700] If, if Deborah and I get the courts taken back and you guys help us, then the people
[01:32:26.700 --> 01:32:31.420] out there with more sophisticated issues, now they can bring those to the courts and
[01:32:31.420 --> 01:32:33.420] get a, get proper adjudication.
[01:32:33.420 --> 01:32:34.420] Right.
[01:32:34.420 --> 01:32:38.620] We get the courts back and 90% of these problems are going to take care of themselves.
[01:32:38.620 --> 01:32:41.980] Like things like right to travel and things like this.
[01:32:41.980 --> 01:32:46.780] We'll get those, those issues properly settled in court, but we have to control our courts
[01:32:46.780 --> 01:32:47.780] first.
[01:32:47.780 --> 01:32:51.900] Otherwise you go to court on these issues and the judges is going to rule against you
[01:32:51.900 --> 01:32:53.260] every time.
[01:32:53.260 --> 01:32:58.060] I think if we don't get the courts, then we're, we're going to end up at the cartridge box,
[01:32:58.060 --> 01:32:59.900] which is where I do not want to go.
[01:32:59.900 --> 01:33:03.540] I've been there, don't want to go back.
[01:33:03.540 --> 01:33:07.460] It is not all it's cracked up to be.
[01:33:07.460 --> 01:33:08.460] It doesn't sound like much fun to me.
[01:33:08.460 --> 01:33:12.460] Because the rule of law is gone and that's, that's what makes everything work.
[01:33:12.460 --> 01:33:14.780] But we, we've already lost it to some degree.
[01:33:14.780 --> 01:33:16.540] We just got to get it back if we can.
[01:33:16.540 --> 01:33:23.980] The time that the stars are aligning themselves, a new administration, the federal judges know
[01:33:23.980 --> 01:33:27.220] that Obama is going to want to pay back his supporters.
[01:33:27.220 --> 01:33:33.520] And one of the ways they do that, one of the ways he does it is by political appointments.
[01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:37.500] When a primary political appointment is a federal judge, how are you going to appoint
[01:33:37.500 --> 01:33:38.500] federal judges?
[01:33:38.500 --> 01:33:44.060] If they're all the slots are filled, you got to get rid of some and all the U S attorneys
[01:33:44.060 --> 01:33:45.700] had to tend to their resignations.
[01:33:45.700 --> 01:33:48.100] He decides whether to accept or not.
[01:33:48.100 --> 01:33:54.460] Everybody's on pins and needles and the economy's crashing around them.
[01:33:54.460 --> 01:34:01.660] The giant is beginning to stir sleeping giant is awakening.
[01:34:01.660 --> 01:34:06.140] And so everybody's is looking now, everybody's paying attention.
[01:34:06.140 --> 01:34:14.300] It's the time we unleash this on these guys and get hundreds of suits around Texas that'll
[01:34:14.300 --> 01:34:20.260] have the, the potential of emptying the jails on the one hand, which is not what I want
[01:34:20.260 --> 01:34:21.260] to happen.
[01:34:21.260 --> 01:34:24.780] But I would like to see about 70% come out of there that shouldn't been in there in the
[01:34:24.780 --> 01:34:25.780] first place.
[01:34:25.780 --> 01:34:26.780] Right.
[01:34:26.780 --> 01:34:29.780] Think of what that will do to our economy.
[01:34:29.780 --> 01:34:34.460] Now it won't help Bush or Cheney cause they've got a lot of investments in it.
[01:34:34.460 --> 01:34:36.260] No kidding.
[01:34:36.260 --> 01:34:44.780] And just the specter of that will be so great that it's going to terrify everybody.
[01:34:44.780 --> 01:34:47.860] Then we're in a position to get changes made.
[01:34:47.860 --> 01:34:50.820] So let's keep at it.
[01:34:50.820 --> 01:34:51.820] All right.
[01:34:51.820 --> 01:34:52.820] Good for you, Randy.
[01:34:52.820 --> 01:34:53.820] All right.
[01:34:53.820 --> 01:34:54.820] Thanks for the call.
[01:34:54.820 --> 01:34:55.820] Talk to y'all later.
[01:34:55.820 --> 01:34:56.820] All right.
[01:34:56.820 --> 01:34:57.820] We'll talk to you later.
[01:34:57.820 --> 01:35:02.500] All right, we're going to move on now to Jonathan in Texas.
[01:35:02.500 --> 01:35:04.580] Hey, Jonathan, thanks for calling in.
[01:35:04.580 --> 01:35:05.580] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:35:05.580 --> 01:35:06.580] Hello.
[01:35:06.580 --> 01:35:07.580] How are you?
[01:35:07.580 --> 01:35:08.580] Pretty good.
[01:35:08.580 --> 01:35:09.580] Okay.
[01:35:09.580 --> 01:35:16.140] Well, I'm calling because I was, I was in the Austin area and I was at Round Rock and
[01:35:16.140 --> 01:35:19.820] not too long ago, let's say a couple months ago, maybe.
[01:35:19.820 --> 01:35:24.620] And I was, you know, I was supposed to meet somebody that was coming from the airport.
[01:35:24.620 --> 01:35:28.260] You know, they didn't know where to go, didn't even know what Round Rock was.
[01:35:28.260 --> 01:35:30.900] So I waited, this is about police.
[01:35:30.900 --> 01:35:36.500] So I waited in a parking lot, it was around 11, maybe PM or so, so I waited in a parking
[01:35:36.500 --> 01:35:41.460] lot for them that was highly visible from the highway, you know, like kind of a, something
[01:35:41.460 --> 01:35:45.380] where they would be able to tell where it was.
[01:35:45.380 --> 01:35:51.460] And what happened was I was just sitting there, wasn't doing anything that looked suspicious
[01:35:51.460 --> 01:35:52.460] or illegal or anything.
[01:35:52.460 --> 01:35:58.980] I mean, it was, you know, and a Round Rock police officer pulled up on me, told me to
[01:35:58.980 --> 01:36:02.260] get my hands up and sit my ass on the curb.
[01:36:02.260 --> 01:36:08.460] I apologize, but basically sit my A on the curb and, can you hear me?
[01:36:08.460 --> 01:36:09.460] Yes.
[01:36:09.460 --> 01:36:10.460] Yes, go ahead.
[01:36:10.460 --> 01:36:11.460] Okay.
[01:36:11.460 --> 01:36:12.460] And so I did.
[01:36:12.460 --> 01:36:14.700] And he asked me what I was doing in the parking lot.
[01:36:14.700 --> 01:36:17.380] And I told him I'm waiting for somebody that's supposed to be here.
[01:36:17.380 --> 01:36:20.980] And he asked me, he goes, well, do you have any drugs in your car?
[01:36:20.980 --> 01:36:23.740] And I told him, no, sir, I don't have any drugs in my car.
[01:36:23.740 --> 01:36:25.940] He goes, have you ever had any drugs in your car?
[01:36:25.940 --> 01:36:27.940] I go, no, sir, I've never had any drugs in my car.
[01:36:27.940 --> 01:36:31.860] You know, I go, I don't deal with those kinds of people or associate with them.
[01:36:31.860 --> 01:36:35.860] And then he said, so you give me consent to search your vehicle?
[01:36:35.860 --> 01:36:37.780] And I told him, no, sir, I don't.
[01:36:37.780 --> 01:36:39.660] And he goes, well, what do you have to hide?
[01:36:39.660 --> 01:36:41.460] And I go, well, I don't have anything to hide.
[01:36:41.460 --> 01:36:42.460] That's just my right.
[01:36:42.460 --> 01:36:45.860] You know, I go, I have a right to refuse for you to search my vehicle.
[01:36:45.860 --> 01:36:47.860] And he goes, well, to me, that's suspicious.
[01:36:47.860 --> 01:36:51.140] So what we're going to do is I'm going to call the K9 unit, and we're going to wait
[01:36:51.140 --> 01:36:52.820] here until they show up.
[01:36:52.820 --> 01:36:57.540] And so we ended up waiting 45 minutes for the K9 unit to show up.
[01:36:57.540 --> 01:37:05.820] And the K9 unit sniffed my car and, you know, apparently alerted the officer of some sort
[01:37:05.820 --> 01:37:06.980] of narcotic.
[01:37:06.980 --> 01:37:10.580] And to me, what that was, was they signaled the doctor.
[01:37:10.580 --> 01:37:12.500] Yeah, they've got a hand signal for that.
[01:37:12.500 --> 01:37:13.500] Oh, yeah.
[01:37:13.500 --> 01:37:14.500] Oh, yeah.
[01:37:14.500 --> 01:37:20.780] And he signaled on the door of my car, and he goes, are you sure you don't have drugs?
[01:37:20.780 --> 01:37:21.780] And I go, no.
[01:37:21.780 --> 01:37:24.940] I mean, I'm 100% positive it was just no way.
[01:37:24.940 --> 01:37:26.660] And he goes, has anyone been in your car with drugs?
[01:37:26.660 --> 01:37:29.580] And I go, no, sir, I told you I didn't associate with those people.
[01:37:29.580 --> 01:37:35.140] And at this point, I was handcuffed for safety reasons, I guess, so I wouldn't assault them
[01:37:35.140 --> 01:37:37.620] something while they were looking in my vehicle.
[01:37:37.620 --> 01:37:41.980] And I told them, I go, I want to be able to, you know, you handcuffed me.
[01:37:41.980 --> 01:37:44.860] I want to be able to see you looking at my vehicle to make sure you don't plant anything
[01:37:44.860 --> 01:37:45.860] in there.
[01:37:45.860 --> 01:37:46.860] And he goes, well, that's absurd.
[01:37:46.860 --> 01:37:48.860] You know, are you saying we plant things?
[01:37:48.860 --> 01:37:51.940] And I go, well, worse things have happened, so I just make sure I'm covered here.
[01:37:51.940 --> 01:37:55.940] And then he, he told me, well, you need to sit down right there, and I sat down.
[01:37:55.940 --> 01:38:01.620] And you know, he came back with some substance that looked like cocaine.
[01:38:01.620 --> 01:38:03.420] Oh, my gosh.
[01:38:03.420 --> 01:38:07.820] Yeah, and he got out a little tester, you know, those things that turn purple or whatever
[01:38:07.820 --> 01:38:08.820] color?
[01:38:08.820 --> 01:38:12.900] And he got out one of these testers and put it in there and shook it up.
[01:38:12.900 --> 01:38:18.020] And at that point, I knew I didn't have any drugs or anything, but I kind of I was I was
[01:38:18.020 --> 01:38:19.020] scared.
[01:38:19.020 --> 01:38:21.380] I mean, you know, because you never know, you know, you hear things like that all the
[01:38:21.380 --> 01:38:22.380] time.
[01:38:22.380 --> 01:38:27.820] And I was scared he was going to find some sort of cocaine that never existed on me.
[01:38:27.820 --> 01:38:30.020] And how was I going to prove that I didn't have it?
[01:38:30.020 --> 01:38:31.500] There would be no way.
[01:38:31.500 --> 01:38:36.500] And so I was scared, you know, and he said, well, are you sure you shook it up, you know,
[01:38:36.500 --> 01:38:39.660] to try to get me all scared to admit to something I didn't do?
[01:38:39.660 --> 01:38:41.740] And he probably knows who he is if he's hearing this.
[01:38:41.740 --> 01:38:44.620] And he goes, well, you know, are you sure you don't have cocaine?
[01:38:44.620 --> 01:38:49.260] And I was like, no, sir, I don't, you know, and he shook it up and he goes, yeah, I'm
[01:38:49.260 --> 01:38:52.940] going to give you one last chance, you know, and I go, one last chance for what?
[01:38:52.940 --> 01:38:54.140] He goes to tell me the truth.
[01:38:54.140 --> 01:38:56.060] And I go, I'm telling you the truth.
[01:38:56.060 --> 01:38:59.900] And it turned out that he was just trying to get a confession from me for nothing.
[01:38:59.900 --> 01:39:03.740] I guess I don't know for what, but basically to take me in for fun.
[01:39:03.740 --> 01:39:10.380] And what it ended up being, he took me over to where he found it, and it ended up being,
[01:39:10.380 --> 01:39:13.540] which looks nothing like cocaine, it ended up being salt.
[01:39:13.540 --> 01:39:18.860] I have black leather seats in my vehicle, and it ended up being salt in the seams of
[01:39:18.860 --> 01:39:25.180] the vehicle that he tried to make me believe he found narcotics and the dog was alerting.
[01:39:25.180 --> 01:39:26.940] He said the dog was alerting to the door.
[01:39:26.940 --> 01:39:28.940] Do you have his name?
[01:39:28.940 --> 01:39:32.340] No, sir, I could get it though.
[01:39:32.340 --> 01:39:33.340] Get it.
[01:39:33.340 --> 01:39:40.420] If you'll email me, I will send you a set of information requests I just gave to the
[01:39:40.420 --> 01:39:44.780] Department of Public Safety, about a half inch high.
[01:39:44.780 --> 01:39:46.780] This is Williamson County, people.
[01:39:46.780 --> 01:39:48.740] We will wind this guy's clock.
[01:39:48.740 --> 01:39:51.060] This is Williamson County for you.
[01:39:51.060 --> 01:39:57.300] And let me ask you this, this is, you know, I've heard you guys talk several times about
[01:39:57.300 --> 01:40:02.900] Williamson County, which I presume you live in the area, and I just moved to the area
[01:40:02.900 --> 01:40:08.060] and like I said, I was just waiting for somebody in the parking lot, and he tried to, I don't
[01:40:08.060 --> 01:40:11.060] know if that, what would that constitute as him trying to plant something?
[01:40:11.060 --> 01:40:12.060] False imprisonment.
[01:40:12.060 --> 01:40:16.420] Okay, he has to have probable cause, and he doesn't.
[01:40:16.420 --> 01:40:17.420] Right.
[01:40:17.420 --> 01:40:21.500] How is him with the dog alerting him to my door, which never contained anything in the
[01:40:21.500 --> 01:40:22.500] first place?
[01:40:22.500 --> 01:40:28.140] Well, we'll take care of his dog, we'll see if we can't retire his dog, because he clearly
[01:40:28.140 --> 01:40:29.140] has a hand signal.
[01:40:29.140 --> 01:40:32.780] Well, maybe, because the dog was sniffing around the tires, and I go, well, my dog took
[01:40:32.780 --> 01:40:33.780] a, you know.
[01:40:33.780 --> 01:40:39.660] He should have told him, don't you let that dog wait on my tires.
[01:40:39.660 --> 01:40:43.940] And I told him, you know, he goes, these dogs are saying not to sniff that, or anything
[01:40:43.940 --> 01:40:47.540] like that, and I go, well, he's just, when he boils down to it, he's just a dog by nature,
[01:40:47.540 --> 01:40:54.660] so he's going to sniff, you know, and he pretty much, you know, handcuffed me, told me to
[01:40:54.660 --> 01:40:59.940] sit up there, and all that stuff, and all the, the person I was waiting for, they had
[01:40:59.940 --> 01:41:04.220] no idea what was going on, and, you know, when I told them, they were like, you know,
[01:41:04.220 --> 01:41:10.340] that's messed up, and now, every time, it kind of mentally got me, in a way, fearful,
[01:41:10.340 --> 01:41:14.780] because these people get away with so much, and I'm scared to be in a parking lot at
[01:41:14.780 --> 01:41:19.900] seven or four, or two in the morning, or whatever, because I feel that if I get pulled over,
[01:41:19.900 --> 01:41:25.060] especially somewhere that's, like, a rural area, they'll be able to plant drugs on me,
[01:41:25.060 --> 01:41:28.420] or whatever, and then, and then, who's to say that I didn't have them?
[01:41:28.420 --> 01:41:32.380] I mean, you know, there's, I didn't have them, and it's my word against the officer's word,
[01:41:32.380 --> 01:41:35.940] and he's going to win once he calls backup.
[01:41:35.940 --> 01:41:36.940] That's the problem.
[01:41:36.940 --> 01:41:39.660] That's why you need to sue the crap out of this guy.
[01:41:39.660 --> 01:41:43.060] Yeah, and, and yeah, you're talking about being afraid to be in a parking lot, or whatever,
[01:41:43.060 --> 01:41:44.540] to meet your friend from the airport.
[01:41:44.540 --> 01:41:47.740] I'm afraid to be in Williamson County at all.
[01:41:47.740 --> 01:41:52.340] I mean, I know people, I know people that, when they're driving back and forth from Austin
[01:41:52.340 --> 01:41:59.980] to Dallas, they go, like, 30 miles out of their way to drive around Williamson County,
[01:41:59.980 --> 01:42:03.980] so they don't, they won't drive up straight up I-35 to Dallas.
[01:42:03.980 --> 01:42:10.580] And, yeah, and I've noticed, as far as that goes, you know, they'll look for an excuse
[01:42:10.580 --> 01:42:17.060] to pull you over, like, I've noticed in Williamson County, as anybody that can attest, or lives
[01:42:17.060 --> 01:42:22.260] here that can attest to it, what they do is they like to tailgate, and just look for
[01:42:22.260 --> 01:42:26.220] any old excuse to pull you over, even if there's no excuse, they'll tailgate you and say, do
[01:42:26.220 --> 01:42:27.220] you know why I pulled you over?
[01:42:27.220 --> 01:42:28.660] And get you to try to admit something.
[01:42:28.660 --> 01:42:29.660] Yeah.
[01:42:29.660 --> 01:42:33.940] Pulled over on a, on a Palmer Lane before, and for nothing, and I asked him what the
[01:42:33.940 --> 01:42:34.940] violation was.
[01:42:34.940 --> 01:42:37.300] He told me, I'll tell you that in a minute, you know?
[01:42:37.300 --> 01:42:42.340] And I told him, well, I want to know right now, and he basically, you know, started getting
[01:42:42.340 --> 01:42:46.580] that ego about him saying that, you know, you want to get arrested, and I told him,
[01:42:46.580 --> 01:42:47.580] well, what are you going to arrest me for?
[01:42:47.580 --> 01:42:52.060] And he, you know, step out of the car and stand in front of the car, and I had to, and
[01:42:52.060 --> 01:42:57.820] you know, they keep saying for their own safety, they put you in handcuffs, and I'm a businessman,
[01:42:57.820 --> 01:43:03.220] I don't have any criminal record, or I don't get involved in criminal activities, but these
[01:43:03.220 --> 01:43:07.700] police officers around here make you feel like a criminal when you've done nothing wrong.
[01:43:07.700 --> 01:43:08.700] Well.
[01:43:08.700 --> 01:43:09.700] Just a tax payer.
[01:43:09.700 --> 01:43:12.060] What we can do is show you how to change that.
[01:43:12.060 --> 01:43:19.740] I was, I was driving to Dallas, through Williamson County, and my cell phone was dying.
[01:43:19.740 --> 01:43:24.740] So I got a charger, but I got one of those, I didn't have the battery, the one that plugs
[01:43:24.740 --> 01:43:26.300] into the cigarette lighter.
[01:43:26.300 --> 01:43:30.380] I had the 110 one, so I had to plug it into that little inverter I had.
[01:43:30.380 --> 01:43:35.780] I'm driving down the road doing it, and weaving all over, and changing lanes, cop pulled me
[01:43:35.780 --> 01:43:36.780] over.
[01:43:36.780 --> 01:43:37.780] Well, Randy, hold on.
[01:43:37.780 --> 01:43:40.780] Let's finish the story on the other side, because we're going to break right now.
[01:43:40.780 --> 01:43:42.100] And you hang on the line too, Jonathan.
[01:43:42.100 --> 01:43:43.100] All right.
[01:43:43.100 --> 01:43:44.100] This is the rule of law.
[01:43:44.100 --> 01:43:45.100] We also have Jerry from Texas College.
[01:43:45.100 --> 01:43:49.000] We've got one more segment, 512-646-1984.
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[01:45:35.220 --> 01:45:56.820] All right, somebody's going to bully the bully, somebody is going to police the policeman.
[01:45:56.820 --> 01:45:59.860] That would be us, right Randy?
[01:45:59.860 --> 01:46:01.460] And all our listeners too.
[01:46:01.460 --> 01:46:03.460] So all right, we've got Jonathan on the line.
[01:46:03.460 --> 01:46:08.300] Randy, you're telling us about how you were driving through Williamson County, danger
[01:46:08.300 --> 01:46:10.700] zone, danger zone.
[01:46:10.700 --> 01:46:12.300] I'm weaving all over the place.
[01:46:12.300 --> 01:46:16.860] I have to look up, straighten up four or five times, and there's black SUVs right on my
[01:46:16.860 --> 01:46:17.860] bumper.
[01:46:17.860 --> 01:46:18.860] Why were you weaving all over the place?
[01:46:18.860 --> 01:46:24.380] Because I'm trying to plug in my charger for my cell phone and then plug in the cell
[01:46:24.380 --> 01:46:25.380] phone.
[01:46:25.380 --> 01:46:26.380] It's a cop.
[01:46:26.380 --> 01:46:27.380] He pulls me over.
[01:46:27.380 --> 01:46:28.380] Because you were weaving.
[01:46:28.380 --> 01:46:29.860] That's why you need to pull over to get into those things.
[01:46:29.860 --> 01:46:31.020] Yeah, I told him, you're right.
[01:46:31.020 --> 01:46:32.020] I should have pulled over.
[01:46:32.020 --> 01:46:35.340] I was, my fault.
[01:46:35.340 --> 01:46:38.180] He said, yeah, you were changing lanes without using a blinker.
[01:46:38.180 --> 01:46:39.780] I said, well, I didn't mean to change lanes.
[01:46:39.780 --> 01:46:42.540] I was wondering if he had did what I was doing.
[01:46:42.540 --> 01:46:45.420] He said, he went back to his car for a while.
[01:46:45.420 --> 01:46:46.420] Let me come back.
[01:46:46.420 --> 01:46:48.140] I'm going to give you a warning.
[01:46:48.140 --> 01:46:51.460] Be more careful.
[01:46:51.460 --> 01:46:52.460] He ran my license.
[01:46:52.460 --> 01:46:55.260] Sounded out who you are.
[01:46:55.260 --> 01:46:59.220] And they told him, don't you dare write that jack leg note ticket.
[01:46:59.220 --> 01:47:00.220] Hopefully so.
[01:47:00.220 --> 01:47:01.220] Hopefully.
[01:47:01.220 --> 01:47:03.220] What happens when you kick them in their teeth?
[01:47:03.220 --> 01:47:09.100] They're all a bunch of cowards and they'll do anything to you.
[01:47:09.100 --> 01:47:10.100] You let them.
[01:47:10.100 --> 01:47:12.660] It seems like they're lackeys.
[01:47:12.660 --> 01:47:20.940] But my whole thing is, I was well to, as far as I'm concerned, as far as I know, I was
[01:47:20.940 --> 01:47:24.140] well within my rights to refuse them to search my vehicle.
[01:47:24.140 --> 01:47:31.140] And it seems that as far as the vaccinations and blood tests you were talking about, it's
[01:47:31.140 --> 01:47:33.100] happening in schools.
[01:47:33.100 --> 01:47:37.460] They refuse to let children go to school unless they put poison in their body.
[01:47:37.460 --> 01:47:43.020] And the thing is, it's not so much as forcing you to give blood or forcing you to do this
[01:47:43.020 --> 01:47:44.020] or that.
[01:47:44.020 --> 01:47:46.500] It's trying to force you to consent.
[01:47:46.500 --> 01:47:47.500] Yeah.
[01:47:47.500 --> 01:47:49.180] And that's exactly what's going on.
[01:47:49.180 --> 01:47:51.020] And check it out, Jonathan.
[01:47:51.020 --> 01:48:00.980] There is no law on the books in the state of Texas that requires youth to have vaccinations
[01:48:00.980 --> 01:48:03.300] in order to get into public school.
[01:48:03.300 --> 01:48:04.300] It's a lie.
[01:48:04.300 --> 01:48:05.420] They tell you that.
[01:48:05.420 --> 01:48:06.420] The teachers tell you that.
[01:48:06.420 --> 01:48:09.060] The school superintendents tell you that.
[01:48:09.060 --> 01:48:13.980] And the governor was even trying to issue a mandate, an executive order, which isn't
[01:48:13.980 --> 01:48:24.820] even law, that would require females to get this horrible vaccination to prevent cervical
[01:48:24.820 --> 01:48:25.820] cancer.
[01:48:25.820 --> 01:48:28.020] And it's killing people.
[01:48:28.020 --> 01:48:33.260] Okay, and there's no requirement whatsoever, and you just have to say no.
[01:48:33.260 --> 01:48:34.260] Yeah.
[01:48:34.260 --> 01:48:35.260] And I'm with you.
[01:48:35.260 --> 01:48:42.020] There's too much potential for blood-borne diseases and whatnot, and also, yeah, my question
[01:48:42.020 --> 01:48:49.780] is what exactly do you do without catching a beating or getting false charges pressed
[01:48:49.780 --> 01:48:55.300] on you that you can't in reality defend against because you have no proof?
[01:48:55.300 --> 01:49:01.460] And it's Mr. Man's word against your little tax-paying word.
[01:49:01.460 --> 01:49:04.420] When you say no to something, and you're within your rights, and you know you're within your
[01:49:04.420 --> 01:49:07.020] rights, and they say, well, we don't care.
[01:49:07.020 --> 01:49:12.060] We found this on you, or if you don't consent, we're going to take you to jail because you
[01:49:12.060 --> 01:49:15.500] threatened me with taking me to jail several times because I don't care.
[01:49:15.500 --> 01:49:20.660] You go after them for due process violations and don't argue the merits of the case at
[01:49:20.660 --> 01:49:21.660] all.
[01:49:21.660 --> 01:49:23.540] How long ago was this?
[01:49:23.540 --> 01:49:28.380] I would say this particular incident was maybe 10 months to a year ago, and so I'm thinking
[01:49:28.380 --> 01:49:30.420] maybe statute of limitations has already...
[01:49:30.420 --> 01:49:36.900] No, statute of limitations hasn't, but they may have erased the dash cam.
[01:49:36.900 --> 01:49:39.300] Oh, they probably have.
[01:49:39.300 --> 01:49:40.300] That's been too long.
[01:49:40.300 --> 01:49:41.300] And that's the thing.
[01:49:41.300 --> 01:49:45.540] If they search your car like they did to me when you asked, because I'm sure a lot of
[01:49:45.540 --> 01:49:49.940] this happens to a lot of people, and you tell them you don't want to because you know that
[01:49:49.940 --> 01:49:53.740] why should I let these people search my car, I don't have anything, and I didn't do anything,
[01:49:53.740 --> 01:49:57.740] and I wasn't around criminal activity, and they tell you no, and then they handcuff you,
[01:49:57.740 --> 01:50:01.820] put you to the curb while they search your car, and they have an officer standing over
[01:50:01.820 --> 01:50:04.220] you to make sure that you're not looking at him.
[01:50:04.220 --> 01:50:05.700] Here's one thing you can do.
[01:50:05.700 --> 01:50:06.700] Here's one...
[01:50:06.700 --> 01:50:08.940] Jonathan, here's one thing people should do.
[01:50:08.940 --> 01:50:16.380] You put your own camera in your car that will film and record everything that's going on,
[01:50:16.380 --> 01:50:20.180] and you don't have to run it all the time, but have it kind of like a hidden camera,
[01:50:20.180 --> 01:50:24.180] you know, somewhere in the headliner or something, to film everything that happens, and then
[01:50:24.180 --> 01:50:29.900] you just push a button underneath your seat or something, and then you record everything
[01:50:29.900 --> 01:50:34.340] that happens when they make you get out of the car or whatever, or as soon as you start
[01:50:34.340 --> 01:50:40.620] getting pulled over, you hit the record button, all right, and that thing starts rolling.
[01:50:40.620 --> 01:50:43.620] The tape starts rolling as you're getting pulled over.
[01:50:43.620 --> 01:50:45.740] That's how you stop this.
[01:50:45.740 --> 01:50:46.740] There's another way.
[01:50:46.740 --> 01:50:47.740] And there's...
[01:50:47.740 --> 01:50:48.740] I'm sure there's many ways.
[01:50:48.740 --> 01:50:51.460] It's hard, you know, it's hard to have a camera ready, but there's always...
[01:50:51.460 --> 01:50:52.460] No, no, no, no.
[01:50:52.460 --> 01:50:53.820] If they find the camera, they'll turn it off.
[01:50:53.820 --> 01:50:57.580] What I'm saying is install a hidden camera in your car.
[01:50:57.580 --> 01:50:58.580] There's another way.
[01:50:58.580 --> 01:51:02.020] There's another camera there that they won't turn off.
[01:51:02.020 --> 01:51:03.780] They won't turn it off if they can't find it.
[01:51:03.780 --> 01:51:05.100] Play to the camera.
[01:51:05.100 --> 01:51:07.540] They've got one on their dash.
[01:51:07.540 --> 01:51:09.380] Don't talk to the police officers.
[01:51:09.380 --> 01:51:10.380] Talk to the camera.
[01:51:10.380 --> 01:51:16.860] We had someone on the other day that was doing just exactly that.
[01:51:16.860 --> 01:51:18.220] He was talking to the camera.
[01:51:18.220 --> 01:51:23.740] As far as with the dog, they pretty much signaled the dog to alert them to nonsense.
[01:51:23.740 --> 01:51:24.740] Yes.
[01:51:24.740 --> 01:51:27.380] Everybody knows they do that.
[01:51:27.380 --> 01:51:28.380] And talk to the camera.
[01:51:28.380 --> 01:51:31.060] Maybe I'm not a criminal or anything like that, I don't know.
[01:51:31.060 --> 01:51:37.980] When they arrested me a couple weeks ago, when they put me in the patrol car, I asked
[01:51:37.980 --> 01:51:43.300] the officer if I was being recorded, and he turned the dash cam back and pointed it at
[01:51:43.300 --> 01:51:44.300] me.
[01:51:44.300 --> 01:51:47.420] I dictated a statement into the dash cam.
[01:51:47.420 --> 01:51:52.180] Well, Randy, you're describing a situation where somebody would actually have to be under
[01:51:52.180 --> 01:51:54.860] arrest in order for it to get to that point.
[01:51:54.860 --> 01:51:57.820] You would have to be in cuffs, in the cop car.
[01:51:57.820 --> 01:51:58.820] No.
[01:51:58.820 --> 01:52:01.340] I'm talking about a way to have a camera in your car.
[01:52:01.340 --> 01:52:03.740] He's had to turn the camera around.
[01:52:03.740 --> 01:52:08.300] Someone over for apparently the officer's safety that's pointed toward the front of
[01:52:08.300 --> 01:52:09.300] the vehicle.
[01:52:09.300 --> 01:52:10.300] Yes.
[01:52:10.300 --> 01:52:11.300] It's always pointed toward the front.
[01:52:11.300 --> 01:52:12.300] It was pointing out the window.
[01:52:12.300 --> 01:52:13.300] Yes.
[01:52:13.300 --> 01:52:14.300] And he pointed it back at me.
[01:52:14.300 --> 01:52:15.820] When you get out of the car, it's pointing at you.
[01:52:15.820 --> 01:52:17.380] Well, see, here's the thing, too.
[01:52:17.380 --> 01:52:23.180] A lot of times when they're pulling this crapola, just somehow, magically, the camera just happens
[01:52:23.180 --> 01:52:24.180] to malfunction.
[01:52:24.180 --> 01:52:32.700] That's why I'm saying install your own hidden camera in your car, several of them, to have
[01:52:32.700 --> 01:52:35.020] some pointing at different angles.
[01:52:35.020 --> 01:52:37.900] Where would I go about getting one of these?
[01:52:37.900 --> 01:52:44.180] There is a store in Austin, oh, gosh, it's called Spy Something.
[01:52:44.180 --> 01:52:47.060] I can't remember the name of it.
[01:52:47.060 --> 01:52:53.740] Basically, a store for undercover people, I guess you would say investigators.
[01:52:53.740 --> 01:52:54.740] Yes.
[01:52:54.740 --> 01:53:03.180] I'll have to look it up on the internet for hidden camera spy equipment or something like
[01:53:03.180 --> 01:53:04.180] that.
[01:53:04.180 --> 01:53:07.820] Some of this stuff can be kind of expensive, but it's worth it.
[01:53:07.820 --> 01:53:08.820] Let me tell you a little story.
[01:53:08.820 --> 01:53:09.820] These people need to be stopped.
[01:53:09.820 --> 01:53:13.700] This is only going to get further, and I agree that-
[01:53:13.700 --> 01:53:21.060] I would never rely on subpoenaing the dash cam of a car because they could turn it off.
[01:53:21.060 --> 01:53:25.340] You have your own camera rolling your own tape to prove what happened.
[01:53:25.340 --> 01:53:26.340] Okay.
[01:53:26.340 --> 01:53:35.180] They also discriminate as far as, I think they see somebody that's a young man and see
[01:53:35.180 --> 01:53:39.580] him in a nice vehicle that he shouldn't normally supposed to be in.
[01:53:39.580 --> 01:53:45.420] They feel that, well, he has money to give us and he seems, I guess, maybe he seems like
[01:53:45.420 --> 01:53:46.820] an easy target because he's buying stuff.
[01:53:46.820 --> 01:53:50.060] He seems like he has money to give us, so let's go ahead and write him a ticket, take
[01:53:50.060 --> 01:53:53.020] him to court because we know more than likely he's not going to fight it.
[01:53:53.020 --> 01:53:57.820] One thing is I got a ticket for, I think it was running a stop sign, which I never did,
[01:53:57.820 --> 01:54:03.540] and I took pictures which indicated that the officer from where they were parked couldn't
[01:54:03.540 --> 01:54:08.300] possibly have seen me run the stop sign because there was a big old tree and a bush in the
[01:54:08.300 --> 01:54:09.300] way.
[01:54:09.300 --> 01:54:13.020] I took those pictures to the court and I got it dismissed, and the officer just- because
[01:54:13.020 --> 01:54:18.940] the officer saw that I had evidence and what happened was they just- I guess they dismissed
[01:54:18.940 --> 01:54:21.940] for a break or something and the officer never came back.
[01:54:21.940 --> 01:54:22.940] You know?
[01:54:22.940 --> 01:54:29.420] You should have filed aggravated perjury, malicious prosecution against the officer.
[01:54:29.420 --> 01:54:30.420] Could he still do that?
[01:54:30.420 --> 01:54:35.820] If it hadn't been over, I think it's four or five years, yeah, he probably can.
[01:54:35.820 --> 01:54:41.060] But on the camera issue, I was once putting in a security system for a convenience store
[01:54:41.060 --> 01:54:51.420] and I had- I bought a bunch of video cameras, computer cams, web cams, and one of them went
[01:54:51.420 --> 01:54:52.420] any good.
[01:54:52.420 --> 01:54:56.940] Well, in the bathroom, right above the toilet, there was a receptacle box that didn't have
[01:54:56.940 --> 01:54:57.940] anything in it.
[01:54:57.940 --> 01:55:04.260] I was in there and I looked up at that and I got this idea, I stuck this dummy camera
[01:55:04.260 --> 01:55:08.940] up in there, and one of the girls that worked there, the next time I come in, she was going
[01:55:08.940 --> 01:55:09.940] to kill me.
[01:55:09.940 --> 01:55:12.100] Now, I don't think that's very funny, Randy.
[01:55:12.100 --> 01:55:18.500] Listen, don't start on me, listen, she had no idea that camera didn't work.
[01:55:18.500 --> 01:55:26.540] Put four or five, hang video cameras all over your car, doesn't matter if they work or not,
[01:55:26.540 --> 01:55:29.460] he's not going to plan anything in your car if you've got video cameras all over it.
[01:55:29.460 --> 01:55:33.220] Well, what he'll do is he'll just grab the cameras and try to disable them.
[01:55:33.220 --> 01:55:37.540] That's why I'm saying get a real camera that's hidden so that you really do-
[01:55:37.540 --> 01:55:41.180] If you've got a couple of thousand dollars, sure, how many people out there have that
[01:55:41.180 --> 01:55:42.180] kind of money?
[01:55:42.180 --> 01:55:46.420] I think, well, I think some stuff like that, you can probably get stuff like that for a
[01:55:46.420 --> 01:55:47.420] couple hundred bucks.
[01:55:47.420 --> 01:55:54.980] Well, as far as that goes, it's more of an inconvenience as far as, not really the camera
[01:55:54.980 --> 01:55:58.700] itself, but it just seems like you'd have to go get a whole system rigged up and have
[01:55:58.700 --> 01:56:03.460] a separate power supply and whatnot for the whole camera thing, and then where are the
[01:56:03.460 --> 01:56:04.740] cameras going to be playing to?
[01:56:04.740 --> 01:56:08.380] You'd almost have to have some sort of tape in your vehicle, which they'll find if they
[01:56:08.380 --> 01:56:09.380] search.
[01:56:09.380 --> 01:56:13.820] Otherwise, you'd probably have to have it downloaded into some sort of-
[01:56:13.820 --> 01:56:18.540] They record on many hard drives and also on USB chips.
[01:56:18.540 --> 01:56:23.700] Here's the policeman's problem with messing with your video camera.
[01:56:23.700 --> 01:56:27.020] It's prima facie evidence that he committed a crime.
[01:56:27.020 --> 01:56:28.020] Yeah, no kidding.
[01:56:28.020 --> 01:56:32.300] If he doesn't have his video camera, the guy that called in about, was talking about speaking
[01:56:32.300 --> 01:56:37.500] to the camera, he got in court and told the court that he spoke to the video camera, and
[01:56:37.500 --> 01:56:40.780] they asked the prosecutor where the video was.
[01:56:40.780 --> 01:56:43.980] Oh, well, it got lost.
[01:56:43.980 --> 01:56:46.620] The judge dismissed immediately.
[01:56:46.620 --> 01:56:51.180] What do you do with these, Randy, I mean, what do you do with, let's say, these officers
[01:56:51.180 --> 01:56:56.060] that... I mean, there's nothing else to call them, but rogue officers, just psychopaths.
[01:56:56.060 --> 01:56:57.060] You go after them.
[01:56:57.060 --> 01:57:02.620] Either a psychopath or a sociopath, one or the other, you just have no-
[01:57:02.620 --> 01:57:06.340] One thing I can tell you about them, they are the biggest cowards out there.
[01:57:06.340 --> 01:57:11.420] Well, usually they are, I mean, paper tigers is what they amount to.
[01:57:11.420 --> 01:57:17.140] Go to their chief and work to accuse him of doing what they did.
[01:57:17.140 --> 01:57:24.660] He sent them out there personally to do that, he's respondent superior, send a tort letter
[01:57:24.660 --> 01:57:32.860] to the mayor, telling him that you've been harmed, and this is how much I've been harmed
[01:57:32.860 --> 01:57:39.540] by, I've been subject to due process violations, now I'm terrified of the police, you owe me
[01:57:39.540 --> 01:57:40.540] two million dollars.
[01:57:40.540 --> 01:57:45.660] So does that work in Williamson County where everybody's scratching each other's back?
[01:57:45.660 --> 01:57:46.660] You bet it does.
[01:57:46.660 --> 01:57:48.900] Oh yeah, that's the best place.
[01:57:48.900 --> 01:57:50.780] That scares them more than anything.
[01:57:50.780 --> 01:57:51.780] Okay.
[01:57:51.780 --> 01:57:56.700] But don't send it to the policeman or to the chief of police, you send it to the guy the
[01:57:56.700 --> 01:57:58.940] chief works for, the mayor.
[01:57:58.940 --> 01:58:03.180] He had nothing to do with that crap, Ola, now he's looking at a lawsuit.
[01:58:03.180 --> 01:58:04.180] Always go to the top.
[01:58:04.180 --> 01:58:10.420] Okay, so you can pretty much see them because, I mean, I am fearful of the police, I mean,
[01:58:10.420 --> 01:58:14.500] I actually, even though I've committed no crime when they're behind me, I actually get
[01:58:14.500 --> 01:58:15.500] tension headaches.
[01:58:15.500 --> 01:58:16.500] Just pull over.
[01:58:16.500 --> 01:58:19.500] If one's behind you, just pull over.
[01:58:19.500 --> 01:58:23.140] Because there's no telling what kind of garbage they'll come up with.
[01:58:23.140 --> 01:58:24.140] No.
[01:58:24.140 --> 01:58:28.340] You know, I warn all the listeners, as you probably have already, you know, when coming
[01:58:28.340 --> 01:58:35.140] to Williamson County or Austin, Texas, I mean, you know, I don't know, I mean.
[01:58:35.140 --> 01:58:38.380] Yeah, you got to be careful in Williamson County, that's for sure.
[01:58:38.380 --> 01:58:42.620] All right, listen, we are at the end of the show, we only have like 10 seconds left, so
[01:58:42.620 --> 01:58:43.940] Jonathan, thank you for calling in.
[01:58:43.940 --> 01:58:44.940] Thank you.
[01:58:44.940 --> 01:58:46.180] We really appreciate you call back in Thursday.
[01:58:46.180 --> 01:58:50.180] Jerry from Texas Travis, sorry, we'll have to get to you guys next time.
[01:58:50.180 --> 01:58:51.180] We'll be back on Thursday.
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