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[00:00.000 --> 00:09.400] In a stunning reversal, the British government has admitted it participated in the extraordinary
[00:09.400 --> 00:13.360] rendition to Afghanistan of two terror suspects.
[00:13.360 --> 00:18.600] The government earlier asserted there were only two cases of detainee rendition involving
[00:18.600 --> 00:25.400] the island of Diego Garcia used as a refueling stop for US extraordinary rendition flights.
[00:25.400 --> 00:31.600] CIA Director Leon Panetta said Thursday the controversial drone attacks against Pakistan
[00:31.600 --> 00:32.840] would continue.
[00:32.840 --> 00:37.920] The Pakistani government's survival is in doubt not only from unpopular US drone strikes
[00:37.920 --> 00:41.200] but from a failing economy and political turmoil.
[00:41.200 --> 00:47.960] Iran's UN envoy has criticized US Ambassador Susan Rice for accusing Tehran of supporting
[00:47.960 --> 00:51.600] terrorism and attempting to develop nuclear weapons.
[00:51.600 --> 00:56.320] After speech to the UN Security Council, Rice said once the US withdraws its troops from
[00:56.320 --> 01:03.120] Iraq it would seek an end to Iran's ambitions to acquire an illicit nuclear capacity and
[01:03.120 --> 01:10.120] its support for terrorism.
[01:10.120 --> 01:16.560] Admiral Timothy Keating, head of the US Pacific Command, told ABC News Thursday the military
[01:16.560 --> 01:22.040] is prepared to shoot down any North Korean ballistic missile if Barack Obama gives the
[01:22.040 --> 01:23.040] order.
[01:23.040 --> 01:28.000] Admiral Keating said if a missile leaves the launch pad, we'll be prepared to respond upon
[01:28.000 --> 01:30.040] direction of the President.
[01:30.040 --> 01:35.800] Keating added, I'm not a betting man, but I'd go 60-40, 70-30 that they will attempt
[01:35.800 --> 01:37.800] to launch a satellite.
[01:37.800 --> 01:42.240] Should it look like it's not a satellite launch, we'll be ready to respond.
[01:42.240 --> 01:47.120] Intelligence reports suggest North Korea is preparing a long-range missile test.
[01:47.120 --> 01:52.160] Earlier this week, North Korea announced its plans to send a satellite into orbit as part
[01:52.160 --> 01:53.520] of its space program.
[01:53.520 --> 01:58.720] However, many in the international community assert North Korea's satellite test is simply
[01:58.720 --> 02:04.400] a means of concealing a long-range missile test, a move that would flare existing tension
[02:04.400 --> 02:08.360] in the region.
[02:08.360 --> 02:14.280] The BBC reports Japan's industrial production fell by 10% in January, the biggest monthly
[02:14.280 --> 02:18.520] drop since records began more than a half century ago.
[02:18.520 --> 02:23.920] It is the fourth successive month that factory output has fallen as the world's second biggest
[02:23.920 --> 02:27.240] economy suffers its worst recession in decades.
[02:27.240 --> 02:33.920] The latest figures come days after the government said exports plunged 45% in January compared
[02:33.920 --> 02:35.320] with a year ago.
[02:35.320 --> 02:43.120] The country's car production plunged a record 41% year on year in January, 576,000 vehicles
[02:43.120 --> 02:50.160] were produced in January compared with 977,000 for the same month in 2008.
[02:50.160 --> 03:04.680] The number of people unemployed rose by more than 200,000.
[03:04.680 --> 03:05.680] Hello listeners.
[03:05.680 --> 03:10.400] Brave New Books is proud to announce an exciting new event for Texas Independence Day, Monday,
[03:10.400 --> 03:11.400] March 2nd.
[03:11.400 --> 03:16.040] Joining us will be GCN radio host and internationally bestselling author Dr. Catherine Albrecht,
[03:16.040 --> 03:21.440] who wrote Spy Chips, how major corporations and governments plan to track your every purchase
[03:21.440 --> 03:22.600] and watch your every move.
[03:22.600 --> 03:27.120] Dr. Albrecht has a PhD from Harvard in education and has been one of the leading voices for
[03:27.120 --> 03:31.440] consumer privacy and has worked tirelessly by educating people on the emergence of a
[03:31.440 --> 03:34.920] total surveillance control grid being set up all around us.
[03:34.920 --> 03:38.600] Please come out and show your support as Dr. Albrecht tours central Texas on a mission
[03:38.600 --> 03:42.280] to testify against the mandatory microchipping of all pets in San Marcos.
[03:42.280 --> 03:47.600] But before she visits San Marcos, Dr. Albrecht will hold a one-time only talk and book signing
[03:47.600 --> 03:50.360] at Brave New Books on March 2nd at 7 p.m.
[03:50.360 --> 03:54.520] This will be a popular event, so seating will be limited, so please come to the bookstore
[03:54.520 --> 03:55.520] early.
[03:55.520 --> 04:00.940] If you have any questions, please call the bookstore at 512-480-2503 and be sure to go
[04:00.940 --> 04:04.600] to BraveNewBookstore.com for updates on many events coming up.
[04:04.600 --> 04:34.240] Thank you.
[04:34.600 --> 05:04.540] Dr. Albrecht, please come out and show your support as Dr. Albrecht tours central Texas
[05:04.540 --> 05:22.460] on a mission to testify against the mandatory microchipping of all pets in San Marcos.
[05:22.460 --> 05:29.180] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when Deborah and Catherine come for you?
[05:29.180 --> 05:34.780] This is Deborah Stevens, the rule of law, with also Randy Kelton, of course.
[05:34.780 --> 05:41.460] When Deborah and Catherine come for me, I'm going to accept my punishment greatly, graciously.
[05:41.460 --> 05:43.420] Randy is a glutton for punishment.
[05:43.420 --> 05:50.100] Yes, indeed, and we are very blessed and fortunate to be joined by Dr. Catherine Albrecht again
[05:50.100 --> 05:51.100] tonight.
[05:51.100 --> 05:54.020] A surprise visit we have from her.
[05:54.020 --> 05:55.020] Thank you for joining us.
[05:55.020 --> 05:56.020] Catherine?
[05:56.020 --> 05:59.340] Deborah, great to talk to you, and I know exactly who we're going to be coming for.
[05:59.340 --> 06:03.100] We're going to be coming for those folks down there at the City Hall at the City Council
[06:03.100 --> 06:05.300] in San Marcos, Texas on Tuesday.
[06:05.300 --> 06:06.300] Absolutely.
[06:06.300 --> 06:08.300] Looking forward to going after those guys.
[06:08.300 --> 06:10.100] Absolutely, absolutely.
[06:10.100 --> 06:16.220] So Catherine, you're going to be at Brave New Books this coming Monday evening, is that
[06:16.220 --> 06:17.220] correct?
[06:17.220 --> 06:19.420] Monday evening, Brave New Books, right there in Austin.
[06:19.420 --> 06:22.660] I'm doing a whole bunch of cool TV stuff before that.
[06:22.660 --> 06:29.260] I've got your, what is it, NBC, and let me get this right, I am doing some TV stuff with
[06:29.260 --> 06:38.500] NBC and KXAN and KI, both stations, are doing an interview in studio on this topic of microchip
[06:38.500 --> 06:40.600] implants on Monday.
[06:40.600 --> 06:44.380] Those should probably air on Tuesday evening, so people should definitely be watching that
[06:44.380 --> 06:47.940] evening news, and they're interspersed with all of the other stuff.
[06:47.940 --> 06:52.660] Absolutely, and with all the other propaganda, there's going to be a story on the dog-chipping
[06:52.660 --> 06:57.700] protests that we're doing on Tuesday night down in San Marcos at the City Hall there.
[06:57.700 --> 07:02.060] Excellent, and I have confirmed and worked everything out with Harlan and Steve at Brave
[07:02.060 --> 07:07.940] New Books, and we are going to set up to broadcast there Monday evening, Randy and I do our show
[07:07.940 --> 07:13.600] Monday evenings from 8 to 10 p.m. Central Time, so we will be there, and you're certainly
[07:13.600 --> 07:18.820] welcome to jump on the air with us in between signing books and giving your talk at Brave
[07:18.820 --> 07:19.820] New Books.
[07:19.820 --> 07:20.820] Oh, that's going to be awesome.
[07:20.820 --> 07:22.620] I didn't know you guys had actually worked that out.
[07:22.620 --> 07:23.620] That's terrific.
[07:23.620 --> 07:28.620] Yes, and what I'll do, too, is I'll get a mic set up where you're going to be speaking,
[07:28.620 --> 07:33.820] and so that way you can, as you're talking to the people at the bookstore, it will also
[07:33.820 --> 07:34.820] go out on the air.
[07:34.820 --> 07:35.820] Wow.
[07:35.820 --> 07:36.820] That's going to be fantastic.
[07:36.820 --> 07:37.820] That's exciting.
[07:37.820 --> 07:38.820] Yes.
[07:38.820 --> 07:40.100] And I don't think Harlan ordered enough books.
[07:40.100 --> 07:44.380] I think he ordered like 36 books, so everybody listening, get there early, because I have
[07:44.380 --> 07:48.860] a feeling that those are going to fly off the shelves pretty quickly, and anybody out
[07:48.860 --> 07:49.860] there who has...
[07:49.860 --> 07:51.340] People are probably going, who is this woman?
[07:51.340 --> 07:56.700] It's Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I am the co-author of the book, Spy Chips, which I
[07:56.700 --> 08:03.000] refer to now as the definitive critique of RFID technology, and Harlan, who is the owner
[08:03.000 --> 08:07.220] and manager there at Brave New Books, has ordered a couple of cases of books.
[08:07.220 --> 08:11.940] They will be there for a book signing 7 p.m. on Monday night.
[08:11.940 --> 08:15.740] That's this coming Monday, March 2nd, and we're going to do a little reception.
[08:15.740 --> 08:19.580] I'll probably give an informal talk about RFID, just kind of give people a heads up
[08:19.580 --> 08:23.580] of what some of the latest news and some of the latest things to be on the lookout for
[08:23.580 --> 08:28.300] and active against, and certainly we'll be talking about microchip implants in dogs and
[08:28.300 --> 08:32.060] cats and rabbits and ferrets and everything else they want to chip in the city of San
[08:32.060 --> 08:33.060] Marcos.
[08:33.060 --> 08:38.140] Deborah, I don't know if you have been following this, but I have been completely wigged out
[08:38.140 --> 08:44.780] today because of this fast-tracked NACE legislation that is making its way through on the federal
[08:44.780 --> 08:45.780] level.
[08:45.780 --> 08:50.020] I've got a couple of NACE activists, anti-NACE activists, putting together some bullet points
[08:50.020 --> 08:56.340] because I can't even follow what's going on, but apparently the House yesterday passed
[08:56.340 --> 09:02.340] a NACE bill that would take the National Animal Identification System that folks like Judith
[09:02.340 --> 09:06.420] McGarry with the Farm and Ranch Freedom Alliance, who by the way will be joining us Monday night,
[09:06.420 --> 09:11.660] that they've been fighting now for a couple of years to try to keep this program from
[09:11.660 --> 09:16.020] becoming mandatory in the state of Texas that would require that all animals be implanted
[09:16.020 --> 09:20.020] with microchips and uniquely numbered and registered with the feds.
[09:20.020 --> 09:24.620] It turns out that the federal government looks like they're making an end run around the
[09:24.620 --> 09:31.500] states on this one, and they have passed through the House legislation that would mandate NACE
[09:31.500 --> 09:37.180] nationwide, make it mandatory that you had to participate in this program in all 50 states,
[09:37.180 --> 09:40.940] totally in violation of state sovereignty and everything else.
[09:40.940 --> 09:45.780] On top of that, there's actually funding in this omnibus spending bill that's about to
[09:45.780 --> 09:51.100] go through that provides literally millions of dollars for the implementation of NACE.
[09:51.100 --> 09:54.580] That's another issue for people concerned about microchips, for people who care about
[09:54.580 --> 10:00.180] animals, for people who care about limiting the size and scope of the federal government,
[10:00.180 --> 10:04.460] and who really I think down the road are concerned that, you know, first they're going to come
[10:04.460 --> 10:07.820] for the dogs and the cats, and they're going to come for the cows and the chickens and
[10:07.820 --> 10:12.060] the pigs, and pretty soon there's going to be nothing left to come for but you and me.
[10:12.060 --> 10:15.180] And I think at that point, it's going to be too late to fight back against this.
[10:15.180 --> 10:19.860] So that's why we're mobilizing against every microchip threat on every front.
[10:19.860 --> 10:20.860] This is just awful.
[10:20.860 --> 10:24.140] I can't believe that they're doing this at the federal level.
[10:24.140 --> 10:29.780] Is there anything in the bill that mandates what the punishment would be if you did not
[10:29.780 --> 10:31.740] if someone did not do this to their animal?
[10:31.740 --> 10:34.060] Well, I've seen various versions of this floating around.
[10:34.060 --> 10:37.020] I'm not quite sure what they're doing on the federal level and how they're...
[10:37.020 --> 10:42.980] I think on the federal level, it simply refers back to the USDA's regulations on this.
[10:42.980 --> 10:48.420] But the talk that I've been hearing about punishment for failure to comply with this
[10:48.420 --> 10:49.420] whole ID...
[10:49.420 --> 10:51.260] See, there's multiple pieces to it.
[10:51.260 --> 10:56.140] You have to tell the federal government whenever an animal is born or a chicken or a duck
[10:56.140 --> 11:00.460] or a goose hatches, you have to report it and I believe they only give you 24 hours
[11:00.460 --> 11:02.820] to fill out the paperwork to let them know...
[11:02.820 --> 11:03.820] That is really exciting.
[11:03.820 --> 11:04.820] Yeah, yeah.
[11:04.820 --> 11:07.780] So your cow, you're out there and a lot of small farmers are...
[11:07.780 --> 11:13.180] I mean, you're out there with your animals in the farm, in the cold or in the heat or
[11:13.180 --> 11:14.340] wherever it is.
[11:14.340 --> 11:18.180] You're down there in straw with them while they're bringing these animals in.
[11:18.180 --> 11:23.500] And I have a friend who raises goats and she says when they're having their kids that she
[11:23.500 --> 11:28.700] sometimes doesn't sleep for 36 hours or 48 hours or 72 hours in a row because of all
[11:28.700 --> 11:29.900] the stuff she's got to do.
[11:29.900 --> 11:34.140] And to imagine that she's going to drop all of that, come inside, clean up, hop onto a
[11:34.140 --> 11:39.340] computer, make her way through a morass of bureaucratic paperwork and websites in order
[11:39.340 --> 11:42.980] to fill in information when she's bleary-eyed.
[11:42.980 --> 11:48.340] And failure to do that would result in $1,000 per day per violation.
[11:48.340 --> 11:53.820] So if you have like eight new lambs out in your barn and you fail to report them for
[11:53.820 --> 12:00.100] three days, then right there that's $24,000 worth of a fine that you would be liable for.
[12:00.100 --> 12:04.700] And for most small farmers, just even one day's worth of those fines would be enough
[12:04.700 --> 12:07.900] to break the bank and put them out of business.
[12:07.900 --> 12:09.540] So that's a serious thing.
[12:09.540 --> 12:13.140] Not only do you have to report when they're born, you have to report every time you take
[12:13.140 --> 12:14.900] them off your property.
[12:14.900 --> 12:20.420] So if you take, this is even your horse, people with horses who don't even raise livestock
[12:20.420 --> 12:25.180] necessarily but just have a horse, if you take your horse for a walk around the neighborhood
[12:25.180 --> 12:32.580] and you just walk down the block and back or you go to participate in some equine event
[12:32.580 --> 12:37.180] or whatever it might be, if your horse leaves your property for any reason, then you also
[12:37.180 --> 12:38.980] have 24 hours to report that.
[12:38.980 --> 12:44.420] You have to tell them where you went, why you went there, how long you were there and
[12:44.420 --> 12:45.420] when you returned.
[12:45.420 --> 12:49.700] And again, failure to report this is a $1,000 fine per day.
[12:49.700 --> 12:50.700] Yeah.
[12:50.700 --> 12:51.700] Unbelievable.
[12:51.700 --> 12:57.220] And this is all done with the sort of excuse or the justification being that they want
[12:57.220 --> 13:00.100] to prevent the spread of animal diseases.
[13:00.100 --> 13:03.340] And I guess the idea is if you take your horse out, your horse might have been stepping in
[13:03.340 --> 13:08.500] cow manure, your cows might have hoof and mouth disease, your horse's hoofs are going
[13:08.500 --> 13:14.340] to take that out onto the road and there could be an outbreak and so they need to know when
[13:14.340 --> 13:16.060] and when and where you did what.
[13:16.060 --> 13:19.380] So not only that, I think there's another provision in there and I'm not sure if this
[13:19.380 --> 13:23.020] one is still there but the last time I checked it was, it said that you also had to make
[13:23.020 --> 13:29.500] a record of every person who enters your premises so that again, presumably, if they're walking
[13:29.500 --> 13:34.300] around and they track spores on their feet, on their shoes, back out again and then they
[13:34.300 --> 13:38.140] get on a plane and they go to some other place, that you would be able to track all of those
[13:38.140 --> 13:39.140] people's movements.
[13:39.140 --> 13:43.740] And if you really extrapolate this, keeping a little log by your door of everybody who
[13:43.740 --> 13:47.060] came to your property, well that's not going to do them much good unless they can also
[13:47.060 --> 13:51.060] track exactly where your house guests then went.
[13:51.060 --> 13:54.420] And so when you kind of step back and you look at the big picture of what's happening
[13:54.420 --> 14:00.020] across this country, with all of this like relentless obsessive push for monitoring people's
[14:00.020 --> 14:07.140] travels, you can see that you could use a disease outbreak as a justification for demanding
[14:07.140 --> 14:12.580] that no one be allowed to even leave their front door without scanning an RFID, you know,
[14:12.580 --> 14:16.940] RF license and some sort of a scanner to get permission to even leave their house because
[14:16.940 --> 14:18.420] the feds want to watch where you go.
[14:18.420 --> 14:23.780] Wait a minute, wait a minute, you're not implying that the government would create an outbreak
[14:23.780 --> 14:24.780] for that purpose?
[14:24.780 --> 14:30.340] I'm actually not, Randy, although you know, worse things have happened but that actually
[14:30.340 --> 14:33.980] wasn't where I was going with that, what I was saying and this is something that was
[14:33.980 --> 14:40.300] proposed to me actually by a listener to my radio program and they actually, it made perfect
[14:40.300 --> 14:45.460] sense as soon as I heard it, that you're going to have to show and again, this is total conjecture
[14:45.460 --> 14:49.300] but at some point in the future, you may have to show evidence that you've been vaccinated
[14:49.300 --> 14:56.020] in order to leave your community and because we're noticing all of these weird transportation
[14:56.020 --> 14:59.300] things springing up like in the state, it's happened to me and I think we talked about
[14:59.300 --> 15:06.060] this on the last show, the state of Massachusetts wants to move all of its toll booths to the
[15:06.060 --> 15:11.740] state's borders and when you start putting toll booths on borders between states, then
[15:11.740 --> 15:17.660] you start creating the capacity and certainly the impetus for creating a whole new border
[15:17.660 --> 15:23.340] patrol complete with like customs inspections and car inspections and ID requirements and
[15:23.340 --> 15:29.900] everything else similar to what you now have to go into Canada or Mexico and one, somebody
[15:29.900 --> 15:34.140] sent me a link which was just jaw dropping for me, this was a state, it was one of the
[15:34.140 --> 15:39.500] southern states, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, one of those states and what they had, what
[15:39.500 --> 15:45.260] was in this document which was a piece of state bureaucraties was talking about how
[15:45.260 --> 15:50.300] they can do a crackdown of the entire state, what do they call it, a lockdown where in
[15:50.300 --> 15:56.060] the event of a disease outbreak, they would literally lock down the state and close off
[15:56.060 --> 16:02.620] all of the exits leading out of the state into the surrounding states and post government
[16:02.620 --> 16:08.940] employees or law enforcement officials or even military officials at those borders in
[16:08.940 --> 16:14.060] order to inspect your car to make sure that you weren't leaving with any animals or plant
[16:14.060 --> 16:19.060] material that might be carrying this outbreak outside of the state and what someone else
[16:19.060 --> 16:23.580] suggested to me and this was the part that really made me go wow, is that you could justify
[16:23.580 --> 16:29.820] as the government having border checkpoints from state to state or even from city to city
[16:29.820 --> 16:35.380] by saying we need to verify that you've had your vaccinations because if you haven't,
[16:35.380 --> 16:39.940] you could be a carrier, you could be spreading this, you could catch it somewhere and bring
[16:39.940 --> 16:44.980] it back so we need to just verify that all of your papers are in order and see this ties
[16:44.980 --> 16:49.340] in, all of this stuff is starting to kind of reach the central point, all these things
[16:49.340 --> 16:53.420] that seemed unrelated are now all starting to come into focus.
[16:53.420 --> 16:58.100] This ties in with that enormous appropriation that went out in the stimulus bill for the
[16:58.100 --> 17:03.780] electronic medical records because once they get an RFID driver's license into all of our
[17:03.780 --> 17:09.980] pockets with a microchip on it, once they have an electronic medical record that contains
[17:09.980 --> 17:14.220] every prescription or non-prescription drug you've ever taken, every doctor's visit,
[17:14.220 --> 17:18.700] every shot, every everything, then they can consolidate the two of them and you could
[17:18.700 --> 17:22.820] actually have a situation where you could not move from point A to point B without being
[17:22.820 --> 17:27.700] forced to scan your electronic ID card so they could verify that you are not a carrier
[17:27.700 --> 17:28.700] of disease.
[17:28.700 --> 17:34.620] Same thing with your animals, in the same way, I did an interview a year and a half
[17:34.620 --> 17:40.980] ago and I had, I don't even remember the guy's name, I had some USDA official who was pushing
[17:40.980 --> 17:47.900] this NAIS agenda on my show and then somebody who was fighting it and this guy was explaining
[17:47.900 --> 17:51.620] that the reason they have to tag and track all of the cows and all of the chickens and
[17:51.620 --> 17:55.940] all of the pigs is because there's this very real threat that they could carry disease
[17:55.940 --> 18:00.940] and I said, well, you know, if they carry disease then, and you're living on a farm
[18:00.940 --> 18:06.020] and anyway, the bottom line, what he took this down to was they could be carrying diseases
[18:06.020 --> 18:10.980] that could impact humans and I said, well, wait a minute, why would you want to microchip,
[18:10.980 --> 18:15.980] tag and track the animals if what you really want to do is trace human disease, wouldn't
[18:15.980 --> 18:20.300] humans be more efficient carriers of disease than animals and he said, oh, yes, indeed
[18:20.300 --> 18:23.980] and I said, well, then wouldn't it make more sense to microchip the humans than the animals
[18:23.980 --> 18:29.500] and he said, well, absolutely and then he caught himself at that point, anyway, oh well,
[18:29.500 --> 18:33.500] but I mean, it's not like anyone's really suggesting that now but when you take the
[18:33.500 --> 18:40.100] justification for this and you extrapolate it out, then it's so clear that at some point
[18:40.100 --> 18:44.380] that is the obvious answer, that is going to be the obvious solution that they're going
[18:44.380 --> 18:47.700] to propose and that may be the way that they actually slip it in is by saying, hey, this
[18:47.700 --> 18:51.820] is about disease, we got to keep you safe and you don't have to comply but you won't
[18:51.820 --> 18:54.980] be leaving, we'll just put you on permanent quarantine in your own home.
[18:54.980 --> 18:58.700] This reeks of operant conditioning.
[18:58.700 --> 19:07.220] Well, operant conditioning in like getting us kind of used to the idea, kind of accustoming
[19:07.220 --> 19:10.140] us to the idea that microchips keep you safe.
[19:10.140 --> 19:12.660] Your paper is her doctor.
[19:12.660 --> 19:18.700] Yeah, yeah, well, see, when you see the infrastructure going in, you got to ask yourself, the justifications
[19:18.700 --> 19:23.100] they're giving for the infrastructure make no sense and so whenever, I talk about this
[19:23.100 --> 19:28.820] a lot on my radio show, whenever you get 2 plus 2 equals 431, you say, well, hang on
[19:28.820 --> 19:33.960] a minute, somebody's pulling the wool over my eyes, what are they really standing to
[19:33.960 --> 19:38.940] gain from telling us that these things add up when they don't and that's when you can
[19:38.940 --> 19:44.060] kind of step back and really look at all of the other things that they're doing simultaneously
[19:44.060 --> 19:45.540] and see what the big picture is.
[19:45.540 --> 19:50.220] So, for example, to move the toll roads, they're talking about how expensive it is to maintain
[19:50.220 --> 19:51.220] these tollbooths.
[19:51.220 --> 19:53.780] Well, what's it going to cost to physically move them halfway across the state?
[19:53.780 --> 19:55.820] That's going to cost a fortune.
[19:55.820 --> 19:56.820] So that's not the reason.
[19:56.820 --> 19:59.060] They're not moving them to the state borders to save money.
[19:59.060 --> 20:01.460] So why are they moving them to the state borders?
[20:01.460 --> 20:06.740] Why is it that states around the country now that have never had toll roads before are
[20:06.740 --> 20:13.180] now all meeting in these statewide governor or nationwide governor association meetings
[20:13.180 --> 20:17.220] talking about toll roads, they're meeting with national transportation officials talking
[20:17.220 --> 20:21.380] about installing toll roads, it's like the wave of the future is putting tolls on the
[20:21.380 --> 20:22.380] roads.
[20:22.380 --> 20:27.020] Well, you don't have to fund roads with tolls, there's plenty of other ways you can do it.
[20:27.020 --> 20:28.740] You can fund them with gas tax.
[20:28.740 --> 20:31.880] You can fund them with a direct, I mean, there's lots of ways you can do it.
[20:31.880 --> 20:38.300] You don't need tollbooths, but what the tolls allow them to do is to monitor who is traveling.
[20:38.300 --> 20:43.820] And right now the only travel mode in this country that has not been locked down and
[20:43.820 --> 20:47.100] surveilled in a database is automotive traffic.
[20:47.100 --> 20:49.700] So they've already got us showing our ID at the airport.
[20:49.700 --> 20:54.500] They've got us showing our ID to get on the train to take a Greyhound bus, you have to
[20:54.500 --> 20:55.660] show ID.
[20:55.660 --> 20:59.580] They have and they record all of that, your beginning point, your destination, all goes
[20:59.580 --> 21:00.580] into a huge database.
[21:00.580 --> 21:02.940] That wasn't the case even five years ago.
[21:02.940 --> 21:07.780] They have now in all the major cities, they're using transit cards that you swipe to get
[21:07.780 --> 21:10.900] on the bus and pay your fare, that you swipe to get on the subway.
[21:10.900 --> 21:13.340] So that's all being tracked and monitored.
[21:13.340 --> 21:17.500] But when you get in your car or when you get on your horse or when you get on your motorcycle
[21:17.500 --> 21:21.340] or your bicycle or whatever it is, then they can't track you.
[21:21.340 --> 21:25.180] And so the only way to automate that, they've been trying different things like capturing
[21:25.180 --> 21:26.180] license plates.
[21:26.180 --> 21:30.020] But you know, you can spray the stuff on your plates, there's lots of ways to get around
[21:30.020 --> 21:31.020] that.
[21:31.020 --> 21:32.740] And it's not all that efficient for them.
[21:32.740 --> 21:37.740] If it's raining, if it's snowing, if there's mud on your plate, so there's lots of loopholes
[21:37.740 --> 21:38.900] for that.
[21:38.900 --> 21:44.860] But if they can get toll booths put in place where you are forced to stop or at least slow
[21:44.860 --> 21:50.260] down and go through a narrowed zone where they can actually physically observe your
[21:50.260 --> 21:57.020] car, photograph its occupants and then let you on your way, then the toll booth becomes
[21:57.020 --> 21:59.900] sort of the equivalent of the ID check at the airport.
[21:59.900 --> 22:03.940] And I believe that's the reason nationwide why we are seeing such a push towards these
[22:03.940 --> 22:06.940] tolls because there's really no other justification for them.
[22:06.940 --> 22:08.940] Think about it just for one minute, guys.
[22:08.940 --> 22:14.020] If you want to raise, let's say you want to raise a million dollars to pay for road infrastructure.
[22:14.020 --> 22:19.820] Which would be cheaper to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars hiring toll collectors,
[22:19.820 --> 22:24.980] installing expensive tolling equipment, installing the infrastructure to maintain all of that,
[22:24.980 --> 22:29.700] coming up with toll transponders and making those available or simply raising the gas
[22:29.700 --> 22:32.060] tax a couple of cents a gallon?
[22:32.060 --> 22:36.300] I mean really, you'd get your million bucks back a whole lot faster by just raising gas
[22:36.300 --> 22:37.940] taxes.
[22:37.940 --> 22:47.420] So the toll roads are a, they're being ushered in for reasons other than the real reason
[22:47.420 --> 22:50.500] why I think they're putting them in place and that's something we all need to be paying
[22:50.500 --> 22:51.500] pretty close attention to.
[22:51.500 --> 22:56.460] Not to mention the fact you have to have a driver's license to drive a car and the driver's
[22:56.460 --> 23:01.820] license is going to be the vehicle, forgive the pun, it's going to be the means by which
[23:01.820 --> 23:05.620] they render us all trackable, especially if Janet Napolitano gets her way.
[23:05.620 --> 23:09.740] She of course last week said that they're getting rid of the real ID and everybody went
[23:09.740 --> 23:15.060] yay, hooray, we won, no more real ID until she finished her sentence and said and what
[23:15.060 --> 23:19.460] we're going to give you instead is enhanced driver's licenses and everybody went huh,
[23:19.460 --> 23:23.660] what are those, what, yeah, well it's got to be better than real ID, yay, yay and meanwhile
[23:23.660 --> 23:28.660] I'm sitting here being the RFID person, studying this stuff for six years now, screaming at
[23:28.660 --> 23:34.020] the top of my lungs, no, because the enhanced driver's license is the remotely readable
[23:34.020 --> 23:40.540] spot chip, it's the 30 foot read range, RFID tag that can be read by all of the toll booths,
[23:40.540 --> 23:45.100] that can be read by a sensor put by the side of the road or installed under the cement,
[23:45.100 --> 23:49.100] that can be read by the doorway of your bank, in fact there's plans to do that, Bank of
[23:49.100 --> 23:53.780] America came up with a plan for that, IBM came up with a plan for that, that can be
[23:53.780 --> 23:59.780] read by the billboard as you walk by and flash you a personalized ad, that can be read by
[23:59.780 --> 24:03.980] the FBI agent as he goes to your gun show or as he goes to your peace rally or whatever
[24:03.980 --> 24:09.020] it might be and simply walks around the crowd capturing all of the information from the
[24:09.020 --> 24:12.900] people present right through their pockets, purses, wallets or backpacks without their
[24:12.900 --> 24:18.420] knowledge, that's what we're facing right now and again when you take a look at each
[24:18.420 --> 24:23.980] of these things individually it can be overwhelming to try to say how does this all, gee, how
[24:23.980 --> 24:28.100] do I fight 10,000 fronts at once until you realize you're really fighting the same thing
[24:28.100 --> 24:33.460] on every front, you are fighting a desire on the part of corrupt people to maintain
[24:33.460 --> 24:37.020] power and the only way they're going to do that when the natives are getting restless
[24:37.020 --> 24:40.860] because we're starting to get a little bit upset with those guys is by clamping down
[24:40.860 --> 24:45.380] and watching and observing us and ultimately preventing us from traveling because if you
[24:45.380 --> 24:50.460] can't get to Washington DC to hold a protest sign, if I couldn't fly to San Marcos, Texas
[24:50.460 --> 24:54.100] in order to tell the city hall down there that they better dump this microchip requirement
[24:54.100 --> 25:01.220] on dogs, if you can't go to the radio studio to do your show then we no longer pose a threat
[25:01.220 --> 25:07.140] to them so that I really believe is the ultimate goal is to create a situation where we are
[25:07.140 --> 25:12.060] all totally under house arrest unless we get special permission to travel from point A
[25:12.060 --> 25:16.380] to point B and at that point the liberty movement essentially is dead because if you can't go
[25:16.380 --> 25:22.220] anywhere then you can't do anything so I really believe that right now transportation
[25:22.220 --> 25:27.100] is where it's at in terms of watching and in terms of fighting back against this stuff
[25:27.100 --> 25:30.900] because once they put that in place then all they have to do is shut down the net which
[25:30.900 --> 25:35.020] if we can't travel to do anything about it, they shut down the net, they lock us all in
[25:35.020 --> 25:41.620] place and voila, we're helpless and at that point they've won.
[25:41.620 --> 25:46.220] That certainly looks like that's the direction that it's headed Catherine, I'm sorry to say
[25:46.220 --> 25:50.700] but I have to agree with you, we've got to stop this, we just have to stop it.
[25:50.700 --> 25:54.260] We have to, we have to, I mean this is the time, I said this on my show earlier this
[25:54.260 --> 26:00.100] week, quit what you're doing folks, whatever you're doing just stop, just stop, are you
[26:00.100 --> 26:03.620] playing video games, are you watching TV, are you reading novels?
[26:03.620 --> 26:08.460] Now is probably the time to say let me put that on hold because unless we fix the rest
[26:08.460 --> 26:11.580] of this then you're going to spend the whole rest of your life playing video games and
[26:11.580 --> 26:15.540] reading novels and watching TV because there's going to be no opportunity left to do any
[26:15.540 --> 26:17.300] kind of freedom fighting.
[26:17.300 --> 26:19.500] We are in a closing window right now.
[26:19.500 --> 26:26.100] Yeah we don't have a choice, this is a matter of survival, this is straight up survival,
[26:26.100 --> 26:28.660] we have to stop this, it's do or die.
[26:28.660 --> 26:34.100] Well it's time to fight back, it's really right now, it's time to stand up and really
[26:34.100 --> 26:35.100] take this on.
[26:35.100 --> 26:40.580] You know and I've been really optimistic for the last couple years because I've been sensing
[26:40.580 --> 26:45.020] on the one hand so many people waking up, the Ron Paul revolution, Aaron Russo's awesome
[26:45.020 --> 26:50.740] film Freedom to Fascism, all the truth coming out about 9-11, so many things have contributed
[26:50.740 --> 26:56.100] to waking up so many millions of people who simply were not informed but I think because
[26:56.100 --> 27:00.260] of that we've got those guys running scared and now they're escalating the program to
[27:00.260 --> 27:05.660] clamp down on us and so I still feel like there's a great window of opportunity but
[27:05.660 --> 27:08.060] I really feel that they are closing it.
[27:08.060 --> 27:13.020] You know this thing about catching wild pigs where you put up the fence and you want to
[27:13.020 --> 27:16.700] catch the pigs and they don't want to come to you so you put up one fence next to the
[27:16.700 --> 27:20.740] food and at first they stay away then they come and then they eat the food and then after
[27:20.740 --> 27:24.420] they get used to that you put up another fence, that side of the fence and then they eat that
[27:24.420 --> 27:27.780] for you know and then once they're used to that you put up the third side and then they
[27:27.780 --> 27:30.300] stay away and then you put up your fourth side with a little gate but you leave the
[27:30.300 --> 27:33.860] gate open and then eventually they kind of come in and start eating the food again then
[27:33.860 --> 27:35.460] you slam the gate shut.
[27:35.460 --> 27:39.460] Well they're putting up the fourth wall I guess is what I want to say here on the pen,
[27:39.460 --> 27:42.940] they're putting up the fourth wall and as soon as they get it up they're going to slam
[27:42.940 --> 27:46.020] the gate shut and that's it.
[27:46.020 --> 27:52.020] You know the Russians, the Soviets let me say, the Soviets under Stalin would have given
[27:52.020 --> 27:57.260] anything they had to be able to have the right, the privilege to go out and protest.
[27:57.260 --> 27:59.260] They would have given anything.
[27:59.260 --> 28:04.020] It was, see the fact that you and I, the three of us can have this conversation right now
[28:04.020 --> 28:08.300] in the air, the fact that we can broadcast this freely, the fact that I can say such
[28:08.300 --> 28:13.100] immensely critical things of our government, the fact that I can call them a bunch of power
[28:13.100 --> 28:19.820] obsessed creeps, the fact that I can call them names is something that you, once things
[28:19.820 --> 28:22.020] really get bad you won't be able to do anymore.
[28:22.020 --> 28:26.820] They certainly could not do it in the Soviet Union and in fact Alexander Solzhenitsyn
[28:26.820 --> 28:32.820] who wrote the Gulag Archipelago and all the incredible accounts of living under Soviet
[28:32.820 --> 28:40.820] rule, he was sentenced to five years in the Gulag because in a private letter sealed in
[28:40.820 --> 28:45.980] an envelope that he wrote to a friend, he made a veiled critical reference to Stalin.
[28:45.980 --> 28:50.460] Didn't name him by name, only said something like you know our, what did he say, something
[28:50.460 --> 28:51.460] like the creep.
[28:51.460 --> 28:55.540] Just to mention like that, didn't even say what the creep did, just said something like
[28:55.540 --> 29:00.900] the creep in Russian and because of that the censors were, well of course the censors opened
[29:00.900 --> 29:04.740] all the letters and they opened this letter, they saw this reference, rounded him up in
[29:04.740 --> 29:08.260] the middle of the ninth room in the Gulag for five years.
[29:08.260 --> 29:13.540] So imagine what would happen to us in a world like that talking this openly, I mean you
[29:13.540 --> 29:18.580] couldn't even talk this openly with your husband in the privacy of your own bedroom without
[29:18.580 --> 29:25.340] fear and that is the legacy that we will be leaving to our kids and our grandkids if we
[29:25.340 --> 29:29.860] do not stand up and fight with every single thing we have and when I say fight I'm talking
[29:29.860 --> 29:33.220] non-violent peaceful resistance because it's the only thing that's ever worked, the rest
[29:33.220 --> 29:36.980] of it just leads to chaos but it's time, it's time right now.
[29:36.980 --> 29:42.060] Absolutely, it is time, alright we're going to break right now, we will be right back
[29:42.060 --> 29:47.900] with Dr. Catherine Albrecht, very sobering words indeed, we have to fight this right
[29:47.900 --> 29:58.980] now, we'll be right back.
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[30:04.100 --> 30:08.460] With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties and instability
[30:08.460 --> 30:12.100] in world financial systems, I see gold going up much higher.
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[30:57.940 --> 31:04.940] Yeah, who you want to chip, who you take me for, free Tony, who you want to chip, me
[31:04.940 --> 31:09.940] no free Tony, you can't chip me, oh me say, don't let them chip you in the morning, chip
[31:09.940 --> 31:15.940] you in the evening, put a chip in your body, and then when you go computer reading, you
[31:15.940 --> 31:20.940] can't hide me safe from nobody, when me say, chip in your mom, chip in your daddy, chip
[31:20.940 --> 31:26.940] in your grandpa and your granny, chip in me, chip in your baby, chip in your family, whole
[31:26.940 --> 31:30.940] family, chip in your dad, and they kept her on me, chip in your baby, chip in your daddy.
[31:30.940 --> 31:36.460] They want to chip our dogs and our cats, they want to chip us too people, that's the grave
[31:36.460 --> 31:38.060] reality here.
[31:38.060 --> 31:45.140] We are dealing with a situation of immense magnitude, okay, the gravity of the situation
[31:45.140 --> 31:48.940] just, we just can't express how important this is.
[31:48.940 --> 31:55.100] Dr. Albrecht, finish up, you said you needed to go, but if you could please finish up and
[31:55.100 --> 31:59.060] just give us the details again about what your events are, when you're going to be here
[31:59.060 --> 32:00.060] and-
[32:00.060 --> 32:04.340] Yeah, just to conclude on what I was talking about, if there's one thing people should
[32:04.340 --> 32:10.020] be resisting, it's toll roads going into their communities, it is RFID going into anything
[32:10.020 --> 32:16.140] that they carry or wear or have on their cars, certainly resist RFID stickers in inspection
[32:16.140 --> 32:20.780] stickers, RFID tags in license plates, and whatever you do, don't put a toll transponder
[32:20.780 --> 32:21.780] on your car.
[32:21.780 --> 32:25.260] I can't believe how many people in Texas stupidly are using that technology.
[32:25.260 --> 32:30.820] If you have used it, get rid of it now, stop and pay cash at the tolls, don't make yourself
[32:30.820 --> 32:33.460] any more trackable than you have to be.
[32:33.460 --> 32:36.620] The big threat is going to be these enhanced driver's licenses, which are a hundred times
[32:36.620 --> 32:39.060] worse than real ID ever could have been.
[32:39.060 --> 32:45.020] As far as my events, I am flying from my home here in the Live Free or Die City in New Hampshire
[32:45.020 --> 32:50.980] into Texas on Monday morning, I will be in Austin, I'm going to be speaking at a number
[32:50.980 --> 32:51.980] of events there.
[32:51.980 --> 32:55.380] Let me see if I can get my schedule here, I will tell you what I'm doing.
[32:55.380 --> 33:04.500] On Monday evening, I'm going to be doing a TV appearance on simpletruthonline.net.
[33:04.500 --> 33:09.180] At 7 p.m., I'm doing a book signing at Brave New Books in Austin, of course at 8 p.m.,
[33:09.180 --> 33:13.060] Debra, you're going to be broadcasting from Brave New Books, that should be fun, and that's
[33:13.060 --> 33:19.940] right across from the UT Austin campus, and then on Tuesday at 4 p.m. in San Marcos, we're
[33:19.940 --> 33:26.380] going to be meeting down at a place called Wake the Dead, it's a coffee house there,
[33:26.380 --> 33:31.740] and then we're going to be 6 p.m. meeting at the dog park across from the San Marcos
[33:31.740 --> 33:35.700] City Hall, and that is going to be for an evening vigil.
[33:35.700 --> 33:40.100] I'm going to testify before the City Council there, maybe just for three minutes, but there's
[33:40.100 --> 33:44.460] going to be probably 30 or 40 of us, so we're going to be testifying all night there, and
[33:44.460 --> 33:48.020] the folks from Austin are going to hold vigil for us out in front.
[33:48.020 --> 33:59.740] You can find information on this if you go to katherinalbrecht.com, that's K-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E-A-L-B-R-E-C-H-T, katherinalbrecht.com,
[33:59.740 --> 34:04.380] and click on Texas protest in the menu bar, and we'll have all the details and directions
[34:04.380 --> 34:05.380] there.
[34:05.380 --> 34:06.380] Excellent.
[34:06.380 --> 34:09.060] Thank you so much for joining us this evening.
[34:09.060 --> 34:10.060] We really appreciate it.
[34:10.060 --> 34:11.060] Yeah, well, thank you, Debra.
[34:11.060 --> 34:12.060] Thank you, Randy.
[34:12.060 --> 34:13.060] It's always a pleasure.
[34:13.060 --> 34:14.060] I didn't mean to depress people.
[34:14.060 --> 34:19.540] I still have a lot of hope, and the one thing that kind of keeps me going is my faith, because
[34:19.540 --> 34:25.180] I know that in the long, long, long run, the short run, we may not win this one, but in
[34:25.180 --> 34:29.420] the long run, the good guys come out on top, so that's the good news.
[34:29.420 --> 34:35.780] Absolutely, and we got Randy on our side here, so he's going to give them a lot of grief
[34:35.780 --> 34:36.780] over this, too.
[34:36.780 --> 34:38.260] We need some lawsuits, I'll tell you.
[34:38.260 --> 34:42.740] All right, well, bless you guys, and if people want to catch my radio show, I'm on Monday
[34:42.740 --> 34:48.460] through Friday from 4 to 6 p.m. at 90.1 there in Austin, so I'm sorry, 3 to 5 p.m. year
[34:48.460 --> 34:49.460] time.
[34:49.460 --> 34:52.700] Yeah, it's 4 to 6 my time, but it's 3 to 5 year time, 90.1, and it's the Catherine
[34:52.700 --> 34:53.700] Albrecht show.
[34:53.700 --> 34:54.700] She's on GSN?
[34:54.700 --> 34:55.700] No, don't listen to him.
[34:55.700 --> 34:56.700] GSN stands for Evil Rival Network.
[34:56.700 --> 34:57.700] Oh, don't listen to him.
[34:57.700 --> 34:58.700] It's GCN.
[34:58.700 --> 34:59.700] It's GCN.
[34:59.700 --> 35:00.700] Oh, GCN.
[35:00.700 --> 35:01.700] Oh, I'm sorry, Alex.
[35:01.700 --> 35:02.700] All right.
[35:02.700 --> 35:03.700] Evil Rival Network.
[35:03.700 --> 35:04.700] No, no, no.
[35:04.700 --> 35:05.700] Just think 90.1.
[35:05.700 --> 35:06.700] They're doing good work out there.
[35:06.700 --> 35:07.700] All right, guys.
[35:07.700 --> 35:08.700] Thanks.
[35:08.700 --> 35:09.700] Big hug.
[35:09.700 --> 35:10.700] Bye.
[35:10.700 --> 35:11.700] Bye.
[35:11.700 --> 35:12.700] Bye.
[35:12.700 --> 35:13.700] I can't wait to see you.
[35:13.700 --> 35:14.700] I'll just hold up on Monday night.
[35:14.700 --> 35:15.700] Yes, I'm looking forward to meeting you.
[35:15.700 --> 35:16.700] Okay, guys.
[35:16.700 --> 35:17.700] And I hope to meet all your radio listeners there, too.
[35:17.700 --> 35:18.700] All right.
[35:18.700 --> 35:19.700] Okay.
[35:19.700 --> 35:20.700] Bye-bye.
[35:20.700 --> 35:21.700] Bye.
[35:21.700 --> 35:22.700] All right.
[35:22.700 --> 35:28.220] That was Dr. Catherine Albrecht, RFID expert.
[35:28.220 --> 35:32.180] So if you're in Austin, come on out to Brave New Books, but like she says, you better get
[35:32.180 --> 35:37.980] there early, because not only are books going to go fast, but it's going to be standing
[35:37.980 --> 35:40.540] room only, I promise you.
[35:40.540 --> 35:41.540] All right.
[35:41.540 --> 35:45.580] Randy, we have some callers on the line.
[35:45.580 --> 35:46.940] Do you want to go to our callers?
[35:46.940 --> 35:47.940] Yes.
[35:47.940 --> 35:48.940] Okay.
[35:48.940 --> 35:49.940] Great.
[35:49.940 --> 35:50.940] All right.
[35:50.940 --> 35:51.940] We've got George from Texas.
[35:51.940 --> 35:52.940] Hey, George.
[35:52.940 --> 35:53.940] Thanks for calling in.
[35:53.940 --> 35:54.940] What's on your mind tonight?
[35:54.940 --> 35:55.940] George?
[35:55.940 --> 35:56.940] How are you doing?
[35:56.940 --> 35:57.940] Yeah.
[35:57.940 --> 35:58.940] How are you doing, Deborah?
[35:58.940 --> 35:59.940] How are you doing, Randy?
[35:59.940 --> 36:00.940] Good.
[36:00.940 --> 36:01.940] Do you have any comments about this RFID situation and the toll roads?
[36:01.940 --> 36:07.780] Well, all I can say is it's like, you know, you're just watching it from Florida from
[36:07.780 --> 36:10.140] a distance and being in Texas.
[36:10.140 --> 36:14.780] Every time they kill it, they try to put the readers' ugly head in some area somewhere
[36:14.780 --> 36:15.780] else.
[36:15.780 --> 36:17.900] It's like they just don't get it.
[36:17.900 --> 36:19.140] We don't want it.
[36:19.140 --> 36:20.140] Yeah.
[36:20.140 --> 36:21.300] They don't care what we want.
[36:21.300 --> 36:22.700] They want what they want.
[36:22.700 --> 36:28.740] They have an agenda and they will do anything and everything they can to accomplish that
[36:28.740 --> 36:30.060] agenda.
[36:30.060 --> 36:37.900] And our freedoms and our liberties do not fit into their plan at all.
[36:37.900 --> 36:40.740] And they don't care, okay?
[36:40.740 --> 36:43.700] These people have no regard for human life whatsoever.
[36:43.700 --> 36:45.940] We're cannon fodder to them.
[36:45.940 --> 36:47.500] And that's just the way it is, okay?
[36:47.500 --> 36:50.140] We have to realize what we are dealing with.
[36:50.140 --> 36:54.100] This really is a matter of survival.
[36:54.100 --> 36:57.540] The point is they do get it.
[36:57.540 --> 36:58.540] They get it very clearly.
[36:58.540 --> 37:00.660] Oh, they get it real good.
[37:00.660 --> 37:03.380] They know what they want.
[37:03.380 --> 37:07.500] And we have to be as intractable as they are.
[37:07.500 --> 37:13.940] Absolutely, we have to be completely immovable because they're gunning for our liberties
[37:13.940 --> 37:14.940] and our freedoms.
[37:14.940 --> 37:22.500] They want to track us everywhere we go, everything we do.
[37:22.500 --> 37:24.860] It's a monstrosity, really.
[37:24.860 --> 37:29.860] It's complete blasphemy to humanity, period.
[37:29.860 --> 37:35.620] You know, the thing is that state that Bill, that Leo Berman put it in, I think it's Bill
[37:35.620 --> 37:37.740] number 50, it's in the Texas House.
[37:37.740 --> 37:42.860] I mean, one of the stipulations you should have put in that bill is no real ID, no enhanced
[37:42.860 --> 37:43.860] driver's license.
[37:43.860 --> 37:44.860] Mm-hmm.
[37:44.860 --> 37:48.540] And, you know, because, you know, you could say 10th Amendment, 9th and 10th Amendment,
[37:48.540 --> 37:51.660] but I think you're going to be, I think these bills are going to have to be a little more
[37:51.660 --> 37:52.660] specific.
[37:52.660 --> 37:53.660] Yeah, indeed.
[37:53.660 --> 37:58.820] I mean, it's bad enough that you have to give it some print to get a driver's license.
[37:58.820 --> 38:01.660] And I've pretty much already decided I'm not going to renew mine.
[38:01.660 --> 38:03.780] I'm just not going to drive.
[38:03.780 --> 38:10.300] I'm just going to have to get rides or whatever or start riding a bicycle everywhere or something
[38:10.300 --> 38:14.100] because I'd already decided I'm not going to give, I'm not giving any more biometric
[38:14.100 --> 38:15.100] data.
[38:15.100 --> 38:16.100] I'm just not going to do it.
[38:16.100 --> 38:17.100] And now it's even worse.
[38:17.100 --> 38:25.020] Now they want to take iris scans and digital biometric scans of your face and just the
[38:25.020 --> 38:31.260] whole nine yards and put it all in the RFID chip on the driver's license.
[38:31.260 --> 38:32.700] No, I don't think so.
[38:32.700 --> 38:33.700] Not going to happen.
[38:33.700 --> 38:34.700] I'm not going to go there.
[38:34.700 --> 38:38.540] I'm just going to have to change my life to not drive a car if that's, if that's what
[38:38.540 --> 38:39.540] it means.
[38:39.540 --> 38:44.220] Well, I haven't switched over my license yet, so, because of this, but I talked to the Department
[38:44.220 --> 38:49.820] of Public Safety Officer as in the DMV and he thinks this thumb scan in his thumb database
[38:49.820 --> 38:50.820] is stupid.
[38:50.820 --> 38:53.700] He thinks, he thinks you only keep, you only keep data on criminals.
[38:53.700 --> 38:56.700] You don't keep data on, on law abiding citizens.
[38:56.700 --> 38:57.700] Absolutely.
[38:57.700 --> 39:01.940] I said, he says there and goes, yeah, this is, they use the illegal immigration argument
[39:01.940 --> 39:03.660] for these thumb scans.
[39:03.660 --> 39:09.020] I said, but I said, but he goes, I'm mad because I'm, we're told that you've got to have your
[39:09.020 --> 39:14.660] birth certificate to get a driver's license in Texas, but we got a man in 1600 Pennsylvania
[39:14.660 --> 39:20.780] Avenue who has three law firms who won't disclose his birth certificate or his college records
[39:20.780 --> 39:21.780] or anything.
[39:21.780 --> 39:22.780] Mm-hmm.
[39:22.780 --> 39:23.780] Exactly.
[39:23.780 --> 39:29.380] And you know, and the thing is, these military, you've got to feel, an officer and a major
[39:29.380 --> 39:33.420] general, I think, is their role in that daily questioning the eligibility, so I have to
[39:33.420 --> 39:40.300] follow orders from this illegitimate leader and, and I just think, I just think it's coming
[39:40.300 --> 39:44.300] down to the point, he says, because everybody I talk to who took that thumb scan, it's an
[39:44.300 --> 39:45.780] humiliating thing.
[39:45.780 --> 39:53.900] Well, you should have been with me in the Austin Hotel when they took my thumb scan
[39:53.900 --> 39:56.060] against my specific objection.
[39:56.060 --> 39:57.980] He's talking about when he was in jail.
[39:57.980 --> 40:04.300] Oh, I wasn't going to say it that way, that's a scurrilous, scurrilous lie.
[40:04.300 --> 40:13.100] They took biometric data against my objection and they have surely disseminated that biometric
[40:13.100 --> 40:19.180] data to places from which they cannot recover it.
[40:19.180 --> 40:22.780] This creates an untenable breach of due process.
[40:22.780 --> 40:25.620] Yeah, once they have it, they have it, it's too late.
[40:25.620 --> 40:30.700] I'm going to sue the crap out of them, personally, the individuals.
[40:30.700 --> 40:35.980] Well, you know, the thing is, Jim Guest told me about this Real ID Act.
[40:35.980 --> 40:40.980] It's like me going down to the hardware store and making a whole bunch of house keys to
[40:40.980 --> 40:46.860] my locks and just passing them out to strangers.
[40:46.860 --> 40:47.860] Pretty similar.
[40:47.860 --> 40:49.460] It's a frighteningly accurate metaphor.
[40:49.460 --> 40:53.260] And you know, the thing is, like, well, how do I get paid, you know, good thing I got
[40:53.260 --> 40:58.660] direct deposit, but I mean, I closed my Bank of America and Wells Fargo account because
[40:58.660 --> 41:02.020] they wanted me to thumbprint to catch my own personal check.
[41:02.020 --> 41:07.620] Wait a minute, wait a minute, this is an existing account and they wanted you to give them biometric
[41:07.620 --> 41:08.620] data?
[41:08.620 --> 41:10.100] Yeah, thumbprint on my own check.
[41:10.100 --> 41:13.620] Wait, is this like a new policy they just started up?
[41:13.620 --> 41:14.620] Yeah.
[41:14.620 --> 41:16.460] And you had an account there?
[41:16.460 --> 41:19.940] I shut it down.
[41:19.940 --> 41:22.940] Absolutely preposterous.
[41:22.940 --> 41:24.420] This is out of control.
[41:24.420 --> 41:31.500] I remember a few years back I had gotten paid with a check for some work I had done building
[41:31.500 --> 41:38.340] a computer system for a recording studio and I just wanted to cash the check at that bank
[41:38.340 --> 41:44.540] because it just happened to be right around the corner and I didn't have an account there
[41:44.540 --> 41:50.380] and should not be a problem to cash the check at the bank that it's drawn on.
[41:50.380 --> 41:57.020] So I went in and I presented the check and my ID, my driver's license, and they wanted
[41:57.020 --> 42:03.940] to take a thumbprint from me to cash the check and I said, no, I'm not going to give you
[42:03.940 --> 42:04.940] a thumbprint.
[42:04.940 --> 42:06.740] I'm not a criminal.
[42:06.740 --> 42:09.260] I'm here cashing a check.
[42:09.260 --> 42:12.420] Now here's my ID, okay?
[42:12.420 --> 42:13.420] It's valid.
[42:13.420 --> 42:15.300] Look it up.
[42:15.300 --> 42:23.380] And everyone around was just shocked that somebody would actually buck this and the
[42:23.380 --> 42:27.940] teller was, well, you have to and I said, no, I don't have to.
[42:27.940 --> 42:32.180] You have to cash this check because it's drawn on this bank.
[42:32.180 --> 42:33.180] Now here's my ID.
[42:33.180 --> 42:34.780] It's made out to me.
[42:34.780 --> 42:35.780] You have to cash it.
[42:35.780 --> 42:38.060] I don't have to do anything.
[42:38.060 --> 42:45.380] And so she just stuttered and stammered and she went and got the manager, the head manager,
[42:45.380 --> 42:50.900] and they talked for a while in the back and the manager came up and told me, okay, well,
[42:50.900 --> 42:57.060] if you have another form of ID, like a credit card or something, which isn't even an ID,
[42:57.060 --> 43:02.500] okay, all right, then she says, well, then we'll be able to do it and I said, fine.
[43:02.500 --> 43:04.940] That was easy enough now, wasn't it?
[43:04.940 --> 43:05.940] Okay.
[43:05.940 --> 43:08.700] We just want to collect our data.
[43:08.700 --> 43:16.380] It ain't about safety and security or keeping us healthy or any of this crapola or keeping
[43:16.380 --> 43:18.780] your account safe.
[43:18.780 --> 43:23.900] It's all about collecting our data, our biometric data and I'm not going to put up with it.
[43:23.900 --> 43:26.420] I'm just not going to stand for it.
[43:26.420 --> 43:27.420] Not going to happen.
[43:27.420 --> 43:32.940] Well, another thing, before he left Florida, my wife worked for 7-Eleven and it was mandated
[43:32.940 --> 43:38.780] that even old lady wanted to buy a four pack of wine coolers.
[43:38.780 --> 43:42.380] She had to swipe her driver's license to prove she was old enough.
[43:42.380 --> 43:46.980] No, yeah, I don't buy alcohol at 7-Eleven because I'm not going to let anybody swipe
[43:46.980 --> 43:49.020] my driver's license just so I can buy a bottle of wine.
[43:49.020 --> 43:50.020] I don't think so.
[43:50.020 --> 43:51.700] All right, listen, we got to go to break.
[43:51.700 --> 43:52.700] We'll be right back.
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[45:36.220 --> 45:41.220] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[45:41.220 --> 45:46.220] I was blindsided but now I can see your plans.
[45:46.220 --> 45:51.220] You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hands.
[45:51.220 --> 46:00.220] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[46:00.220 --> 46:16.220] Ain't gonna fool me.
[46:16.220 --> 46:21.220] Ain't gonna drive me with that same old sucker punch.
[46:21.220 --> 46:34.220] I get it now but then I must have been down to earth back then.
[46:34.220 --> 46:38.220] Ain't gonna get us again with that same old bucket of lies.
[46:38.220 --> 46:41.220] We're not gonna be fooled again, people.
[46:41.220 --> 46:43.220] We're onto their scheme big time.
[46:43.220 --> 46:45.220] We're gonna stop it.
[46:45.220 --> 46:47.220] Okay, we are going to move on now.
[46:47.220 --> 46:49.220] We had Amy from Alabama.
[46:49.220 --> 46:50.220] You were up next, Amy.
[46:50.220 --> 46:52.220] If you want to call back in, we'll put you at the top of the line.
[46:52.220 --> 46:55.220] We also have Lisa from Texas and Mark Adams.
[46:55.220 --> 46:56.220] Mark who?
[46:56.220 --> 46:59.220] So let's bring Mark up and then we'll also bring Lisa up.
[46:59.220 --> 47:01.220] Hey, Mark, thanks for calling in.
[47:01.220 --> 47:02.220] What's on your mind tonight?
[47:02.220 --> 47:03.220] Hey, it's my pleasure.
[47:03.220 --> 47:10.220] I was just listening to Dr. Albrecht talk about the NAIS, the National Animal Identification
[47:10.220 --> 47:11.220] Center.
[47:11.220 --> 47:12.220] Yep.
[47:12.220 --> 47:14.220] And there is an exemption, okay?
[47:14.220 --> 47:20.220] It exempts large corporate livestock holders from registering their animals.
[47:20.220 --> 47:21.220] Figures.
[47:21.220 --> 47:25.220] Yeah, it figures, of course, because what they want to do is put the small farm out
[47:25.220 --> 47:26.220] of business.
[47:26.220 --> 47:33.220] Right, because if they can get rid of the small farmer, then they can control the food
[47:33.220 --> 47:37.220] sources much more efficiently.
[47:37.220 --> 47:38.220] Absolutely.
[47:38.220 --> 47:39.220] We won't have a choice anymore.
[47:39.220 --> 47:47.220] There won't be any such thing as non-GMO food or organic or anything like that.
[47:47.220 --> 47:48.220] Yeah, absolutely.
[47:48.220 --> 47:53.220] They want to completely control the food supply and poison it to boot.
[47:53.220 --> 48:00.220] Well, yeah, fortunately, like Dr. Catherine Albrecht, you and so many people are trying
[48:00.220 --> 48:06.220] to raise awareness about this because it's a really, really serious problem.
[48:06.220 --> 48:12.220] I mean, it's something that if they put this into place, and within a relatively short
[48:12.220 --> 48:17.220] period of time, like Dr. Albrecht was pointing out, the penalties are so outrageous, in a
[48:17.220 --> 48:21.220] relatively short period of time, they could wipe out all the small farmers.
[48:21.220 --> 48:22.220] Oh, yeah.
[48:22.220 --> 48:28.220] Absolutely, and restrict everyone's travel, too, because that's absolutely what they want
[48:28.220 --> 48:29.220] to do.
[48:29.220 --> 48:30.220] I've got some good news, too.
[48:30.220 --> 48:31.220] Okay.
[48:31.220 --> 48:39.220] All this roadblocks and checking people here and there and stuff, there's one little thing
[48:39.220 --> 48:42.220] that the powers that be have to count on there.
[48:42.220 --> 48:46.220] They have to count on their pawns and uniform.
[48:46.220 --> 48:52.220] The thing about the pawns and uniform, they're not that happy with it, and like here in the
[48:52.220 --> 48:58.220] Tampa Bay area in the last two years, we've had two pawns and uniforms killed at roadblocks
[48:58.220 --> 49:06.220] because people don't want to get thrown in jail and abused for nothing by these pawns
[49:06.220 --> 49:09.220] in power that work for the powers that be.
[49:09.220 --> 49:14.220] A couple of times here in the Tampa Bay area in the last two years, it's resulted in police
[49:14.220 --> 49:16.220] officers being killed at roadblocks.
[49:16.220 --> 49:17.220] Oh, my gosh.
[49:17.220 --> 49:18.220] Well, that's not good.
[49:18.220 --> 49:23.220] We don't want anybody getting killed like that because that just gives the freedom movement
[49:23.220 --> 49:24.220] a bad name.
[49:24.220 --> 49:25.220] Well, it's not the freedom movement.
[49:25.220 --> 49:29.220] These are people that are probably not even associated with the freedom movement.
[49:29.220 --> 49:36.220] More than likely, they've been imprisoned and abused before and don't want to go back.
[49:36.220 --> 49:42.220] They're taking their right to self-defense seriously and asserting it.
[49:42.220 --> 49:47.220] That's the thing that's going to happen more and more as the government gets more oppressive.
[49:47.220 --> 49:51.220] They're going to end up losing more of their pawns.
[49:51.220 --> 49:59.220] Hopefully, the pawns will wake up and realize this isn't right and what good are we doing
[49:59.220 --> 50:03.220] out here doing all these roadblocks and stopping and checking people?
[50:03.220 --> 50:04.220] They're not doing any good.
[50:04.220 --> 50:10.220] They're actually causing more harm than they're protecting anybody from.
[50:10.220 --> 50:11.220] Absolutely.
[50:11.220 --> 50:13.220] The harm is occurring to them.
[50:13.220 --> 50:15.220] Hopefully, they'll wake up and realize.
[50:15.220 --> 50:17.220] A lot of them are, Mark.
[50:17.220 --> 50:19.220] It is a good thing.
[50:19.220 --> 50:20.220] A lot of them are waking up.
[50:20.220 --> 50:24.220] We've got a lot more of them on our side than we think.
[50:24.220 --> 50:26.220] We're gaining numbers every day.
[50:26.220 --> 50:30.220] Today, there was a protest in front of the federal courthouse in downtown Tampa.
[50:30.220 --> 50:32.220] There's probably about 100 or so people there.
[50:32.220 --> 50:33.220] Wonderful.
[50:33.220 --> 50:35.220] Yeah, and it was good.
[50:35.220 --> 50:39.220] It was mainly protesting the bailout stuff.
[50:39.220 --> 50:44.220] Of course, there were some people there protesting judicial corruption and stuff like that,
[50:44.220 --> 50:46.220] and that's what I was there for.
[50:46.220 --> 50:47.220] Wonderful.
[50:47.220 --> 50:50.220] All right, listen, Mark, you're welcome to hang on the line.
[50:50.220 --> 50:52.220] We'll keep the line open for you.
[50:52.220 --> 50:56.220] I do want to go to Amy in Alabama because she was up next and she's called back in.
[50:56.220 --> 50:57.220] Cool.
[50:57.220 --> 50:58.220] Amy, thanks for calling in.
[50:58.220 --> 51:00.220] What's on your mind tonight?
[51:00.220 --> 51:02.220] Hey, are you keeping track of my information?
[51:02.220 --> 51:05.220] How did you know that was me on the phone?
[51:05.220 --> 51:10.220] You've got a chip implanted in your phone.
[51:10.220 --> 51:14.220] You are embedded deeply in our database.
[51:14.220 --> 51:16.220] Yes, indeed.
[51:16.220 --> 51:19.220] We have a database of our own, of the callers.
[51:19.220 --> 51:23.220] That just shows you how you can't escape.
[51:23.220 --> 51:29.220] I mean, we're joking about that right here, but that's why they have the caller ID.
[51:29.220 --> 51:35.220] I mean, 20 years ago, your home phone didn't identify you to anyone.
[51:35.220 --> 51:36.220] That's right.
[51:36.220 --> 51:41.220] It's much more difficult for the powers-to-be to figure out who they were listening in on.
[51:41.220 --> 51:42.220] Yeah.
[51:42.220 --> 51:43.220] So go ahead, Amy.
[51:43.220 --> 51:44.220] What's on your mind?
[51:44.220 --> 51:49.220] Well, I wanted to comment on the doctor who was on earlier and how she was saying they're
[51:49.220 --> 51:53.220] even going to the extent where they're going to put a toll booth at the border.
[51:53.220 --> 51:57.220] Have you noticed they've already started preparing for that?
[51:57.220 --> 52:02.220] Because if you look at every major city, they're already going out.
[52:02.220 --> 52:03.220] Excuse me.
[52:03.220 --> 52:04.220] My dog is running around.
[52:04.220 --> 52:05.220] They're already going out.
[52:05.220 --> 52:11.220] And do you notice how they put those cement blocks as you're entering into the city?
[52:11.220 --> 52:12.220] They do it all over.
[52:12.220 --> 52:15.220] It's in every major city in Texas.
[52:15.220 --> 52:17.220] You know what I'm talking about?
[52:17.220 --> 52:21.220] The walls in between them, these highways.
[52:21.220 --> 52:24.220] Oh, the barriers so you can't get across and go the other way.
[52:24.220 --> 52:25.220] Yeah.
[52:25.220 --> 52:26.220] So they can...
[52:26.220 --> 52:30.220] And what I noticed was they're doing that in every large city.
[52:30.220 --> 52:38.220] They're taking our own money that we put in to pay for roads, and they're using it to put the safety of the people.
[52:38.220 --> 52:42.220] And they're putting in all these barriers so you can't cross over.
[52:42.220 --> 52:45.220] Well, how easy is it going to be to change that or a bottleneck that's down,
[52:45.220 --> 52:49.220] and you have to go through an inspection before you come into the city?
[52:49.220 --> 52:50.220] Yeah, really.
[52:50.220 --> 52:57.220] We had someone talking about that before, about how they're setting up the highways under the guise of safety.
[52:57.220 --> 52:58.220] Yeah.
[52:58.220 --> 52:59.220] So they can...
[52:59.220 --> 53:01.220] And if you notice, if you go to...
[53:01.220 --> 53:08.220] I noticed this since all the traveling I do, they're doing it in every major city here.
[53:08.220 --> 53:10.220] Well, I mean, what are they planning on doing?
[53:10.220 --> 53:17.220] I mean, are they going to shut down every little road that goes in and out of every city
[53:17.220 --> 53:21.220] and make it so there's only a few thoroughfares to get into the city?
[53:21.220 --> 53:23.220] Is that what they're going to do?
[53:23.220 --> 53:24.220] I don't think so.
[53:24.220 --> 53:25.220] They just want to be able to...
[53:25.220 --> 53:27.220] I don't think that that's possible.
[53:27.220 --> 53:37.220] No, they want to be able to control the city in sections where they can lock down a section at will.
[53:37.220 --> 53:38.220] Yeah.
[53:38.220 --> 53:42.220] And these barriers will give them the option of doing that.
[53:42.220 --> 53:48.220] Well, even if they did, people would make their own roads, I'm sure, to get where they wanted to go.
[53:48.220 --> 53:53.220] It would be pretty hard to do that in Texas, at least in a lot of these cities in Texas,
[53:53.220 --> 53:59.220] because the cities here like Houston and Austin and Dallas, pretty much all of them,
[53:59.220 --> 54:08.220] they were not designed from scratch in a modular fashion like, say, Manhattan or something, okay, with...
[54:08.220 --> 54:12.220] All right, it's sprawl is what it's called.
[54:12.220 --> 54:16.220] And it's just like it just started growing and sprawling,
[54:16.220 --> 54:22.220] and there's roads everywhere going in and out from the rural areas into the more urban areas.
[54:22.220 --> 54:27.220] And I mean, when you've got a city that was built on sprawl like that,
[54:27.220 --> 54:34.220] I just don't see how they're going to be able to control access in and out of the city like that.
[54:34.220 --> 54:35.220] There's just too many roads.
[54:35.220 --> 54:36.220] It's like a spiderweb.
[54:36.220 --> 54:42.220] It's not like there's only a few thoroughfares coming into the urban area, and that's it.
[54:42.220 --> 54:48.220] Well, I agree that the reason I brought that up is because...
[54:48.220 --> 54:52.220] You know, it's far-fetched what she was saying.
[54:52.220 --> 54:57.220] What she was saying was way far-fetched for me to grasp years ago.
[54:57.220 --> 54:58.220] Right.
[54:58.220 --> 55:00.220] But it's become more the reality.
[55:00.220 --> 55:07.220] Now, you know, these innocent little blockades, don't they also want to put a train system,
[55:07.220 --> 55:13.220] hasn't it been talked about in Dallas, where they want everybody to start using a train instead of...
[55:13.220 --> 55:16.220] I mean, that came up as a big issue when I was there
[55:16.220 --> 55:21.220] and how they wanted to have all train and nobody getting rid of so many vehicles on the road.
[55:21.220 --> 55:28.220] I mean, the possibilities there, the preparations there, what level are they going to take it to?
[55:28.220 --> 55:29.220] That's all I'm saying.
[55:29.220 --> 55:30.220] Yeah, I agree.
[55:30.220 --> 55:31.220] I agree.
[55:31.220 --> 55:37.220] They'll take it to whatever level we let them, okay?
[55:37.220 --> 55:45.220] They will take it to levels beyond your wildest nightmare if we don't stop them.
[55:45.220 --> 55:48.220] I mean, the sky is the limit for these people.
[55:48.220 --> 55:51.220] The sky is absolutely the limit.
[55:51.220 --> 55:56.220] Now, the thing we all have to deal with is this runaway technology.
[55:56.220 --> 55:58.220] Uh-huh, yep.
[55:58.220 --> 56:05.220] For the past few hundred years, technology didn't give people capabilities
[56:05.220 --> 56:08.220] that just seem to appear out of nowhere.
[56:08.220 --> 56:14.220] But now, every week there are new technologies that we all have to deal with.
[56:14.220 --> 56:23.220] And even the powers that be don't really understand the implications of the technologies they're wielding.
[56:23.220 --> 56:30.220] So we're all here kind of in a no man's land trying to figure out where we're going to go
[56:30.220 --> 56:34.220] and where things are going to lead and nobody actually has a clue.
[56:34.220 --> 56:37.220] These are difficult times.
[56:37.220 --> 56:38.220] Scary times.
[56:38.220 --> 56:43.220] Well, we just have to know who we are and make a stand and be immovable.
[56:43.220 --> 56:44.220] Yes.
[56:44.220 --> 56:50.220] It would be bad enough if everybody was trying to do the right thing.
[56:50.220 --> 56:51.220] Yeah.
[56:51.220 --> 56:52.220] You would still have enough difficulty.
[56:52.220 --> 56:53.220] I know.
[56:53.220 --> 56:54.220] Right.
[56:54.220 --> 56:55.220] I know.
[56:55.220 --> 56:56.220] Absolutely.
[56:56.220 --> 57:01.220] Well, I want you to know, Randy and Deborah, we really appreciate you and love your radio show.
[57:01.220 --> 57:06.220] Well, thank you, Amy, and I hope that you also tune into Agenda 21.
[57:06.220 --> 57:10.220] Those guys, Greg and Don, they're in Alabama, too.
[57:10.220 --> 57:11.220] She knows them personally.
[57:11.220 --> 57:13.220] Oh, okay.
[57:13.220 --> 57:14.220] All right.
[57:14.220 --> 57:15.220] Great.
[57:15.220 --> 57:19.220] She's a hillbilly, too, so she speaks their language, their strange dialect.
[57:19.220 --> 57:21.220] I knew Don real well.
[57:21.220 --> 57:22.220] Excellent.
[57:22.220 --> 57:23.220] Excellent.
[57:23.220 --> 57:24.220] Those guys are doing such a great job.
[57:24.220 --> 57:26.220] They really, really are.
[57:26.220 --> 57:30.220] They were cracking me up tonight.
[57:30.220 --> 57:32.220] Oh, those guys are just great.
[57:32.220 --> 57:35.220] They are so funny and they just have such wonderful information.
[57:35.220 --> 57:41.220] Their show tonight was on the public servants questionnaire.
[57:41.220 --> 57:42.220] It was just fantastic.
[57:42.220 --> 57:45.220] People have got to go back and listen to the archive if you didn't catch that one.
[57:45.220 --> 57:46.220] Yeah.
[57:46.220 --> 57:49.220] They use that public questionnaire as a...
[57:49.220 --> 57:50.220] Yes.
[57:50.220 --> 57:51.220] Absolutely.
[57:51.220 --> 57:52.220] Yeah.
[57:52.220 --> 57:56.220] They were talking, and one of them, they were talking about, they had a guest on talking
[57:56.220 --> 58:00.220] about going to take a picture for a driver's license, and he wears a baseball cap all the
[58:00.220 --> 58:01.220] time.
[58:01.220 --> 58:05.220] They were trying to make, they said, well, you got to take the ball cap off to take a
[58:05.220 --> 58:06.220] photograph.
[58:06.220 --> 58:10.220] The only exception is Islamic turbans or something for religious purposes.
[58:10.220 --> 58:13.220] He says, well, baseball is my religion.
[58:13.220 --> 58:17.220] They wouldn't let him take the picture with the ball cap.
[58:17.220 --> 58:23.220] He came back the next day with an Islamic turban on his head.
[58:23.220 --> 58:27.220] They didn't make him take it off, so now his driver's license has got this Islamic turban
[58:27.220 --> 58:28.220] on him.
[58:28.220 --> 58:32.220] So in America, you can't have a ball cap on your head to take a picture for a driver's
[58:32.220 --> 58:35.220] license, but you can have Islamic turban, so.
[58:35.220 --> 58:38.220] We're all going to start going in with turbans on our heads.
[58:38.220 --> 58:39.220] Yeah, really.
[58:39.220 --> 58:40.220] No kidding.
[58:40.220 --> 58:41.220] Okay.
[58:41.220 --> 58:42.220] Well, listen.
[58:42.220 --> 58:43.220] Are you mentioning religion now?
[58:43.220 --> 58:44.220] All right.
[58:44.220 --> 58:45.220] Listen.
[58:45.220 --> 58:46.220] We're going to break.
[58:46.220 --> 58:48.220] We're at the top of the hour, and then we're going to go to Lisa in Texas when we get back.
[58:48.220 --> 58:51.220] This is the rule of law, Randy Chelten and Deborah Stevens.
[58:51.220 --> 58:52.220] We'll be right back.
[58:52.220 --> 58:59.220] Bye, guys.
[58:59.220 --> 59:02.220] First they came for the dogs, then they came for me.
[59:02.220 --> 59:06.220] Hi, this is Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I think it's about time we start fighting back
[59:06.220 --> 59:08.220] against the microchip agenda.
[59:08.220 --> 59:13.220] To kickstart the process, I'm traveling to Austin, Texas next week to help fight mandatory
[59:13.220 --> 59:15.220] dog chipping in the city of San Marcos.
[59:15.220 --> 59:20.220] For those of you in Austin, please join me at Brave New Books on Monday evening at 7
[59:20.220 --> 59:22.220] p.m. for a reception and a book signing.
[59:22.220 --> 59:27.220] We'll have copies of my book Spy Chips and my DVDs, or you can bring your own copy, and
[59:27.220 --> 59:28.220] I'll be glad to sign it.
[59:28.220 --> 59:35.220] Brave New Books is located at 1904 Guadalupe Street in Austin near the UT Austin campus.
[59:35.220 --> 59:40.220] Then on Tuesday, March 3, I invite you to join us for the Candlelight Vigil and Protest
[59:40.220 --> 59:45.220] Against Mandatory Pet Chipping in San Marcos, about 30 miles south of Austin.
[59:45.220 --> 59:49.220] We'll meet at 6 p.m. at the dog park across from the San Marcos City Hall.
[59:49.220 --> 59:54.220] Bring your dog, your kids, and your friends, or just yourself, and we'll provide the rest.
[59:54.220 --> 59:57.220] For more details, go to KatherineAlbrecht.com.
[59:57.220 --> 59:59.220] I hope to see you there.
[59:59.220 --> 01:00:26.220] We know the official story is impossible, so we set about scientifically to cover the
[01:00:26.220 --> 01:00:33.220] story.
[01:00:33.220 --> 01:00:42.220] It was controlled demolition, people.
[01:00:42.220 --> 01:00:44.220] Ixquick Building 7.
[01:00:44.220 --> 01:00:46.220] I'm not going to say Google anymore.
[01:00:46.220 --> 01:00:48.220] Don't Google anything.
[01:00:48.220 --> 01:00:52.220] Use Ixquick, I-X-Q-U-I-C-K.
[01:00:52.220 --> 01:00:56.220] Third party, verified.
[01:00:56.220 --> 01:00:57.220] They do not log your IP address.
[01:00:57.220 --> 01:00:59.220] They don't take any of your data.
[01:00:59.220 --> 01:01:01.220] They don't log what you search for.
[01:01:01.220 --> 01:01:05.220] I mean, these people are just, it just never ends.
[01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:07.220] They keep a database of what you search for.
[01:01:07.220 --> 01:01:09.220] They keep an IP address.
[01:01:09.220 --> 01:01:14.220] They copy your email and keep that in the database, too.
[01:01:14.220 --> 01:01:16.220] They want to track everything you do everywhere you go.
[01:01:16.220 --> 01:01:17.220] See, there's my cat.
[01:01:17.220 --> 01:01:19.220] She's upset about it, too.
[01:01:19.220 --> 01:01:20.220] She doesn't want to get chipped.
[01:01:20.220 --> 01:01:25.220] All right, we are going to go now to Lisa in Texas.
[01:01:25.220 --> 01:01:27.220] I know, meow, meow.
[01:01:27.220 --> 01:01:28.220] All right.
[01:01:28.220 --> 01:01:29.220] Lisa, thanks for calling in.
[01:01:29.220 --> 01:01:31.220] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:01:31.220 --> 01:01:32.220] Hey, Deborah.
[01:01:32.220 --> 01:01:33.220] Hey, Randy.
[01:01:33.220 --> 01:01:34.220] It's Lisa.
[01:01:34.220 --> 01:01:43.220] I was just going to, I was listening to Dr. Albrecht's comments about the RFID microchips
[01:01:43.220 --> 01:01:50.220] and how when she was talking about diseases and the fact that they were talking about
[01:01:50.220 --> 01:01:52.220] tracking diseases in the animals.
[01:01:52.220 --> 01:01:58.220] And one thing I didn't hear very much about is about Plum Island.
[01:01:58.220 --> 01:02:03.220] And Plum Island is located off the tip of New York's Long Island,
[01:02:03.220 --> 01:02:10.220] and it's where they harbor all the really high-level diseases such as hoof and mouth disease.
[01:02:10.220 --> 01:02:16.220] And they just announced Homeland Security actually just announced that back in January
[01:02:16.220 --> 01:02:25.220] that they're going to move this highly contagious animal disease facility to Manhattan, Kansas.
[01:02:25.220 --> 01:02:27.220] The middle of Kansas.
[01:02:27.220 --> 01:02:31.220] MACAB in the middle of cattle country,
[01:02:31.220 --> 01:02:36.220] and they're going to call it the National Bio and Agro Defense Facility.
[01:02:36.220 --> 01:02:40.220] And Manhattan, Kansas is in the middle of Tornado Alley.
[01:02:40.220 --> 01:02:45.220] They just had a huge tornado there last, I guess, in 2008.
[01:02:45.220 --> 01:02:50.220] And that, I don't know, creates a little bit of a red flag to me.
[01:02:50.220 --> 01:02:55.220] And they didn't allow really any comments from the public.
[01:02:55.220 --> 01:02:57.220] They just kind of went through with it.
[01:02:57.220 --> 01:03:03.220] So I don't know, what do we do about that to stop it?
[01:03:03.220 --> 01:03:07.220] I don't know. It's too crazy to even make sense.
[01:03:07.220 --> 01:03:09.220] They had everything on this island.
[01:03:09.220 --> 01:03:13.220] Nothing has ever escaped from that island.
[01:03:13.220 --> 01:03:14.220] That's right.
[01:03:14.220 --> 01:03:18.220] I mean, it's not like the cow is going to jump over the fence.
[01:03:18.220 --> 01:03:21.220] That's right.
[01:03:21.220 --> 01:03:22.220] Really.
[01:03:22.220 --> 01:03:25.220] Like the tornado's going to pick the cow up, take her to Oz.
[01:03:25.220 --> 01:03:27.220] Yeah.
[01:03:27.220 --> 01:03:32.220] But you know, I mean, you can't say they're stupid.
[01:03:32.220 --> 01:03:35.220] It's just too...
[01:03:35.220 --> 01:03:38.220] Well, they are government employees, so you know.
[01:03:38.220 --> 01:03:41.220] Yeah, but in the whole scheme of everything,
[01:03:41.220 --> 01:03:45.220] it makes perfect sense if you want to relocate infectious diseases
[01:03:45.220 --> 01:03:53.220] in the middle of a tornado and cattle country that something might escape.
[01:03:53.220 --> 01:03:55.220] Oh, yeah. I agree with you.
[01:03:55.220 --> 01:04:03.220] I mean, it's obvious that they are either planning to have an event break loose there
[01:04:03.220 --> 01:04:06.220] and use the tornado as an excuse,
[01:04:06.220 --> 01:04:11.220] or they are just the biggest group of morons in the world.
[01:04:11.220 --> 01:04:15.220] Now, of course, government does like to build new facilities all the time,
[01:04:15.220 --> 01:04:18.220] because that way there's plenty of kickbacks for the people
[01:04:18.220 --> 01:04:22.220] that are connected to the government monkey mucking around.
[01:04:22.220 --> 01:04:27.220] This is beyond irrational.
[01:04:27.220 --> 01:04:29.220] Dangerous.
[01:04:29.220 --> 01:04:33.220] I've dealt with the government, and when I was in the service,
[01:04:33.220 --> 01:04:38.220] we always hated to see the spooks come around, because they were really morons.
[01:04:38.220 --> 01:04:42.220] But this is too dumb to be by mistake.
[01:04:42.220 --> 01:04:47.220] Yeah, and it's really bad when government looks stupider than military intelligence,
[01:04:47.220 --> 01:04:49.220] because I was in the service too.
[01:04:49.220 --> 01:04:53.220] That's how unintelligent military intelligence tends to be.
[01:04:53.220 --> 01:04:59.220] But military and intelligence was a contradiction of terms.
[01:04:59.220 --> 01:05:04.220] The other thing I was going to say, and unfortunately it's a little bit bleak too,
[01:05:04.220 --> 01:05:10.220] is that since about 1994, there have been, I don't know if it's close to 100 now,
[01:05:10.220 --> 01:05:15.220] microbiologists that have been murdered in the U.S. and in some other countries.
[01:05:15.220 --> 01:05:20.220] They just start saying what in the world is going on.
[01:05:20.220 --> 01:05:22.220] Yeah, I've heard about that too,
[01:05:22.220 --> 01:05:27.220] and some of them have been in extremely unusual circumstances,
[01:05:27.220 --> 01:05:30.220] like getting trapped in the airlocks in their lab,
[01:05:30.220 --> 01:05:36.220] which is virtually impossible to do without someone doing it to you.
[01:05:36.220 --> 01:05:40.220] Over 100 microbiologists have been murdered?
[01:05:40.220 --> 01:05:42.220] Yes, since about...
[01:05:42.220 --> 01:05:47.220] When I was in California, in La Jolla, California actually, around 1994,
[01:05:47.220 --> 01:05:49.220] there was a scientist murdered then.
[01:05:49.220 --> 01:05:53.220] And I remember I didn't really think a lot about it, but I remember it happening,
[01:05:53.220 --> 01:05:57.220] and he was shot in his own front yard.
[01:05:57.220 --> 01:05:58.220] What is the deal?
[01:05:58.220 --> 01:06:02.220] Why are they killing the scientists, the microbiologists specifically?
[01:06:02.220 --> 01:06:08.220] Those are the people that would be able to decipher a disease and come up with a cure.
[01:06:08.220 --> 01:06:13.220] Those are the people that could help if something is unleashed.
[01:06:13.220 --> 01:06:16.220] No, wait a minute, wait a minute, a couple of hundred...
[01:06:16.220 --> 01:06:19.220] And yes, they've worked and they may know secrets,
[01:06:19.220 --> 01:06:23.220] they may know something that they've uncovered,
[01:06:23.220 --> 01:06:28.220] but nonetheless it's very, you know, something's up.
[01:06:28.220 --> 01:06:30.220] Definitely, and I've read about that too,
[01:06:30.220 --> 01:06:35.220] and it's one of the things that's of course not covered by the mainstream news media,
[01:06:35.220 --> 01:06:41.220] but like you're saying, I've read about it too, several people.
[01:06:41.220 --> 01:06:48.220] I think there's even one that was like a Nobel Prize winner that was eliminated.
[01:06:48.220 --> 01:06:54.220] And there's been a couple of them, seriously, that were trapped in the airlock
[01:06:54.220 --> 01:06:57.220] in between their lab and getting out of the lab.
[01:06:57.220 --> 01:07:03.220] There's an airlock and it couldn't create a vacuum,
[01:07:03.220 --> 01:07:07.220] but that means someone on the outside has to keep you from getting out,
[01:07:07.220 --> 01:07:10.220] flip the machine on to create the vacuum,
[01:07:10.220 --> 01:07:18.220] and it's obviously murder, what they've called it, you know, an accident basically.
[01:07:18.220 --> 01:07:21.220] They are listed. You can do some research online.
[01:07:21.220 --> 01:07:28.220] You can go to XQuick and do some research and search and you'll find the information.
[01:07:28.220 --> 01:07:30.220] But that's all I wanted to say.
[01:07:30.220 --> 01:07:36.220] I just think people need to be aware of some of the other things that I think are tied to these,
[01:07:36.220 --> 01:07:42.220] you know, right along in the line with these RFID chips coming our way.
[01:07:42.220 --> 01:07:47.220] And, you know, it's fact, not fiction, so that's it.
[01:07:47.220 --> 01:07:51.220] Yeah, absolutely.
[01:07:51.220 --> 01:07:54.220] The situation's getting really out of hand.
[01:07:54.220 --> 01:07:57.220] And the people I was going to say today,
[01:07:57.220 --> 01:08:03.220] the thing, you know, there was a dozen or so law enforcement standing around in front of the courthouse.
[01:08:03.220 --> 01:08:08.220] But, you know, people were talking to them and, you know,
[01:08:08.220 --> 01:08:15.220] law enforcement too is starting to realize that the powers that be running our country
[01:08:15.220 --> 01:08:22.220] are busy taking away our freedoms, taking away our rights, and trashing the economy.
[01:08:22.220 --> 01:08:31.220] And so hopefully enough people will wake up in time to keep them from what appears to be
[01:08:31.220 --> 01:08:36.220] an ultimate goal of some type of totalitarian society.
[01:08:36.220 --> 01:08:41.220] Well, I'm awake for Randy and Deborah.
[01:08:41.220 --> 01:08:46.220] And I've been listening to your show ever since you guys came back on the air.
[01:08:46.220 --> 01:08:49.220] And I guess it was around November when I started listening.
[01:08:49.220 --> 01:08:55.220] And I've learned so much and you guys do a super job and keep up the good work.
[01:08:55.220 --> 01:08:56.220] Thank you so much, Lisa.
[01:08:56.220 --> 01:08:58.220] Lisa, we really appreciate that.
[01:08:58.220 --> 01:08:59.220] Okay.
[01:08:59.220 --> 01:09:00.220] Well, bye-bye.
[01:09:00.220 --> 01:09:01.220] Have a great night.
[01:09:01.220 --> 01:09:02.220] Okay.
[01:09:02.220 --> 01:09:03.220] Have a good night.
[01:09:03.220 --> 01:09:04.220] All right.
[01:09:04.220 --> 01:09:07.220] We're going to go now to Meta in Texas.
[01:09:07.220 --> 01:09:08.220] Hi, everyone.
[01:09:08.220 --> 01:09:09.220] Hey, Meta.
[01:09:09.220 --> 01:09:10.220] What's on your mind?
[01:09:10.220 --> 01:09:14.220] You know, well, you know, my take on the scientists is once you have the technology,
[01:09:14.220 --> 01:09:17.220] why bother continue paying them?
[01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:21.220] But what I called in was one of the things was the microchips.
[01:09:21.220 --> 01:09:28.220] Do you know Bush passed a bill saying at a certain point in time we can no longer own
[01:09:28.220 --> 01:09:30.220] old cars?
[01:09:30.220 --> 01:09:36.220] And, you know, we have a 36-footer Baker and we have a Mercedes that do not have computer
[01:09:36.220 --> 01:09:38.220] chips in it.
[01:09:38.220 --> 01:09:43.220] When you go through the intersection and you see those cameras, a lot of times next to
[01:09:43.220 --> 01:09:46.220] them is a pole hanging down with little disks.
[01:09:46.220 --> 01:09:51.220] When you look at the microwave, they can fry the computer chips in your car by sending out
[01:09:51.220 --> 01:09:52.220] a signal.
[01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:59.220] And, of course, if you listen to some of Catherine Albrecht's information, she talks about how
[01:09:59.220 --> 01:10:03.220] the microchips can burst into flames with the microwave.
[01:10:03.220 --> 01:10:05.220] So just imagine that you have that...
[01:10:05.220 --> 01:10:08.220] Oh, they have something else, Meta.
[01:10:08.220 --> 01:10:15.220] They have a piece of equipment in the patrol car that the officer can sit down on the road
[01:10:15.220 --> 01:10:24.220] and control it with RC, run it up under your car, and it will erupt and take out your computer,
[01:10:24.220 --> 01:10:25.220] such as car down.
[01:10:25.220 --> 01:10:26.220] Yep.
[01:10:26.220 --> 01:10:27.220] They can remotely shut your car down now.
[01:10:27.220 --> 01:10:28.220] It's pretty scary.
[01:10:28.220 --> 01:10:29.220] That's all.
[01:10:29.220 --> 01:10:32.220] I think that was 2006 or 2007 models.
[01:10:32.220 --> 01:10:34.220] All of them are required to have that.
[01:10:34.220 --> 01:10:35.220] But I have...
[01:10:35.220 --> 01:10:36.220] Like I said, I have old...
[01:10:36.220 --> 01:10:41.220] I have a 2005, but all my other cars are the older cars with no computer chips.
[01:10:41.220 --> 01:10:44.220] Now, Meta, were you saying something a little while ago about their...
[01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:51.220] They're trying to pass a bill to outlaw owning old classic cars?
[01:10:51.220 --> 01:10:52.220] No.
[01:10:52.220 --> 01:10:54.220] Bush passed a bill when he was in it.
[01:10:54.220 --> 01:10:59.220] It was some kind of energy bill that you couldn't own an old car after a certain point because
[01:10:59.220 --> 01:11:06.220] they wanted it under the offices of energy-efficient, gas-efficient new cars.
[01:11:06.220 --> 01:11:07.220] Oh, boy.
[01:11:07.220 --> 01:11:09.220] Well, it doesn't look like they're enforcing that.
[01:11:09.220 --> 01:11:10.220] Thank goodness.
[01:11:10.220 --> 01:11:13.220] Did they plan to compensate the people for the old cars?
[01:11:13.220 --> 01:11:14.220] Yeah, no kidding.
[01:11:14.220 --> 01:11:15.220] I think it's something...
[01:11:15.220 --> 01:11:23.220] It was like they gave it 10 or 20 years, something like that, for you to phase your old car out.
[01:11:23.220 --> 01:11:24.220] This was Bush.
[01:11:24.220 --> 01:11:25.220] He signed that.
[01:11:25.220 --> 01:11:27.220] That was a few years back too.
[01:11:27.220 --> 01:11:30.220] Well, that's one of the problems with these big omnibus bills.
[01:11:30.220 --> 01:11:36.220] They're 500 or 1,000 pages, and they're supposed to be about helping everybody, and they have
[01:11:36.220 --> 01:11:42.220] some happy name like the Patriot Act, and then they do exactly the opposite of that.
[01:11:42.220 --> 01:11:52.220] Well, if you spoke German, like my husband, who also speaks Russian, Turkish, North Vietnamese,
[01:11:52.220 --> 01:11:58.220] Homeland Security is a direct quote from the German word that they used for Homeland Security
[01:11:58.220 --> 01:12:00.220] when they had their stuff.
[01:12:00.220 --> 01:12:04.220] A lot of the words we're using were actually taken from Nazi Germany.
[01:12:04.220 --> 01:12:06.220] Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing.
[01:12:06.220 --> 01:12:12.220] The media has always portrayed the German term that Hitler used as Fatherland, but it's
[01:12:12.220 --> 01:12:13.220] actually Homeland.
[01:12:13.220 --> 01:12:17.220] Yeah, and actually, it's my understanding that the Patriot Act was pretty much translated
[01:12:17.220 --> 01:12:20.220] word for word from Hitler's Enabling Act.
[01:12:20.220 --> 01:12:21.220] Oh, yeah.
[01:12:21.220 --> 01:12:22.220] Well, I think...
[01:12:22.220 --> 01:12:23.220] Same thing.
[01:12:23.220 --> 01:12:27.220] That was probably the guide, but the Patriot Act was...
[01:12:27.220 --> 01:12:29.220] It's something that...
[01:12:29.220 --> 01:12:34.220] It refers to this provision of this bill or this law and changes that, and this, that,
[01:12:34.220 --> 01:12:35.220] and another thing.
[01:12:35.220 --> 01:12:41.220] It's something that, although they claimed they threw it together really quickly, it
[01:12:41.220 --> 01:12:43.220] appeared that they worked for months.
[01:12:43.220 --> 01:12:45.220] I'm sure years even.
[01:12:45.220 --> 01:12:50.220] Or maybe years, preparing it, because it refers to a variety of different bills.
[01:12:50.220 --> 01:12:56.220] It's actually a real convoluted bill that affects a bunch of different things, so it's
[01:12:56.220 --> 01:12:58.220] sort of like a new tax bill.
[01:12:58.220 --> 01:13:04.220] It's one of those things that a lot of weasels worked on for a long time to tweak and get
[01:13:04.220 --> 01:13:10.220] everything just right, and of course, it's exactly the opposite of Patriot.
[01:13:10.220 --> 01:13:13.220] Have you ever heard of King Law?
[01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:14.220] King Law?
[01:13:14.220 --> 01:13:15.220] King Law.
[01:13:15.220 --> 01:13:21.220] They had an article, and what the gentleman who wrote the article talked about, he said
[01:13:21.220 --> 01:13:25.220] that, you know, all these gun regulations, people are saying they're taking away our
[01:13:25.220 --> 01:13:26.220] guns.
[01:13:26.220 --> 01:13:28.220] They're not taking away the guns.
[01:13:28.220 --> 01:13:35.220] What they're doing is leaving Americans with guns like handguns, single-shot actions, whereas
[01:13:35.220 --> 01:13:42.220] the law enforcement and military have the high-tech weapons, and what they're doing
[01:13:42.220 --> 01:13:47.220] is they wanted to have a civil war, according to this gentleman who wrote the article, and
[01:13:47.220 --> 01:13:53.220] he said, the reason being is, back in the 70s, Rockefeller, when he was a senator, paid
[01:13:53.220 --> 01:13:59.220] a million dollars a year for something like 10 years to have a brand-new constitution
[01:13:59.220 --> 01:14:04.220] written for us, things like religion is no longer a privilege.
[01:14:04.220 --> 01:14:07.220] I mean, you know, right, it's a privilege.
[01:14:07.220 --> 01:14:10.220] You don't have the right to freedom of speech.
[01:14:10.220 --> 01:14:15.220] You know, they rewrote the constitution, and they wanted us to have a civil war so that
[01:14:15.220 --> 01:14:20.220] they can take over and enforce this new constitution.
[01:14:20.220 --> 01:14:23.220] Yeah, I get...
[01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:24.220] Go ahead, Mark.
[01:14:24.220 --> 01:14:28.220] I think that even though there's a lot of people that still are in the dark about what's
[01:14:28.220 --> 01:14:34.220] going on, I think most Americans are waking up to the fact that the government has been
[01:14:34.220 --> 01:14:37.220] doing far more harm than good.
[01:14:37.220 --> 01:14:42.220] And historically, government has done more evil than any other force in society.
[01:14:42.220 --> 01:14:48.220] A distant second would be the church, the Catholic church in particular.
[01:14:48.220 --> 01:14:55.220] But, you know, people are waking up to that, and the pawns, the pawns that are going to
[01:14:55.220 --> 01:15:00.220] be on the front lines, that's the local law enforcement, those guys.
[01:15:00.220 --> 01:15:06.220] I think if they wake up and say, wait, we're not going to go along with this stuff anymore,
[01:15:06.220 --> 01:15:08.220] then that will be it for them.
[01:15:08.220 --> 01:15:13.220] And so, you know, while a lot of people do think that they're trying to cause a civil
[01:15:13.220 --> 01:15:18.220] war, and maybe that's what they want, but I think they're making a really big mistake
[01:15:18.220 --> 01:15:23.220] because they're front line soldiers, okay, the local police department.
[01:15:23.220 --> 01:15:31.220] If these guys wake up to what's going on, then they're going to be the front line rebels.
[01:15:31.220 --> 01:15:37.220] And then their game will be up in a matter of weeks because without local law enforcement
[01:15:37.220 --> 01:15:42.220] supporting the federal government, the federal government is just done.
[01:15:42.220 --> 01:15:48.220] I think it was Alex Jones that was talking about there's over 3 million foreign troops
[01:15:48.220 --> 01:15:50.220] on our soil right now.
[01:15:50.220 --> 01:15:52.220] I think a million of them is right in China.
[01:15:52.220 --> 01:15:58.220] I think what's going to happen is we are going to wake up some of those people before it
[01:15:58.220 --> 01:16:03.220] gets too bad, but we're already in a bad position.
[01:16:03.220 --> 01:16:04.220] Look where all your soldiers are.
[01:16:04.220 --> 01:16:08.220] I'm also a retired Army Sergeant, but look where all our soldiers are.
[01:16:08.220 --> 01:16:14.220] They're overseas, and they're going back to back, back to back tours.
[01:16:14.220 --> 01:16:17.220] So before, you know, you went to Vietnam once and that was it unless you volunteered.
[01:16:17.220 --> 01:16:20.220] These guys are back six months and then back over.
[01:16:20.220 --> 01:16:23.220] They're back a year, then back over.
[01:16:23.220 --> 01:16:28.220] Would any of your contacts in the military confirm this type of stuff that Alex Jones
[01:16:28.220 --> 01:16:29.220] is talking about?
[01:16:29.220 --> 01:16:35.220] Because I have a lot of contacts in the military and I have not heard about foreign troops
[01:16:35.220 --> 01:16:38.220] being in America except for training.
[01:16:38.220 --> 01:16:40.220] They like train the little, you know.
[01:16:40.220 --> 01:16:44.220] It's under the offices of training, but there's about a million.
[01:16:44.220 --> 01:16:45.220] Okay, listen, listen.
[01:16:45.220 --> 01:16:47.220] Meta, Mark, we're going to break.
[01:16:47.220 --> 01:16:50.220] Y'all are welcome to hang over to the other side.
[01:16:50.220 --> 01:16:52.220] We've also got Gail in Minnesota.
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[01:19:15.220 --> 01:19:16.220] Alright, we are back.
[01:19:16.220 --> 01:19:22.220] The rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:19:22.220 --> 01:19:24.220] Alright, we are taking your calls this evening.
[01:19:24.220 --> 01:19:30.220] We've got Mark Adams with us who is guest co-hosting with us.
[01:19:30.220 --> 01:19:32.220] And we've got Gail from Minnesota.
[01:19:32.220 --> 01:19:33.220] We see Cuddy in Michigan.
[01:19:33.220 --> 01:19:35.220] Cuddy, we'll get right to you.
[01:19:35.220 --> 01:19:36.220] Right now we're going to go to Gail.
[01:19:36.220 --> 01:19:38.220] Hey, Gail, thanks for calling in.
[01:19:38.220 --> 01:19:40.220] What's on your mind tonight?
[01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:41.220] Hey, how are you guys doing?
[01:19:41.220 --> 01:19:42.220] It's so good to talk to you.
[01:19:42.220 --> 01:19:43.220] Good.
[01:19:43.220 --> 01:19:44.220] Thank you.
[01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:47.220] I have a little update for you which you might be interested in.
[01:19:47.220 --> 01:19:52.220] I've been helping Dale Nathan work with some judicial reform here in Minnesota.
[01:19:52.220 --> 01:19:56.220] There's a whole bunch of garbage going on with the judges.
[01:19:56.220 --> 01:20:02.220] Long story short, in my own case I found out that the custody evaluation,
[01:20:02.220 --> 01:20:06.220] the first one that had been done by a court or custody evaluator,
[01:20:06.220 --> 01:20:09.220] had never been filed into my court file.
[01:20:09.220 --> 01:20:15.220] So ten days ago I had Gail Nathan actually went and filed it.
[01:20:15.220 --> 01:20:20.220] He signed the declaration statement and filed it in for me.
[01:20:20.220 --> 01:20:24.220] Well, I got back home and I thought, you know what,
[01:20:24.220 --> 01:20:28.220] I don't remember seeing her actually stamp the documents themselves,
[01:20:28.220 --> 01:20:29.220] only the service.
[01:20:29.220 --> 01:20:32.220] So I called her back and I pointed that out and she said,
[01:20:32.220 --> 01:20:35.220] oh, well that's getting filed in, don't worry, it's getting filed in.
[01:20:35.220 --> 01:20:42.220] Well, we had, they're trying to push for a second custody evaluation
[01:20:42.220 --> 01:20:47.220] and David in New York told me, hey, you better make sure that first one is filed in.
[01:20:47.220 --> 01:20:49.220] So I'm glad he did.
[01:20:49.220 --> 01:20:53.220] We went down, Gail Nathan and I went down yesterday to first check
[01:20:53.220 --> 01:20:58.220] and make sure that there was no order for a second custody evaluation
[01:20:58.220 --> 01:21:05.220] because I had got no order and in looking for the order I realized the two documents
[01:21:05.220 --> 01:21:09.220] which we had filed in ten days prior were not in my file,
[01:21:09.220 --> 01:21:11.220] only the declaration of service.
[01:21:11.220 --> 01:21:18.220] So I said to the clerk, I said, part of my file is missing, the papers aren't in here.
[01:21:18.220 --> 01:21:22.220] And she said, well, I think I see the rest of my file
[01:21:22.220 --> 01:21:25.220] and over the counter they had put half the file up
[01:21:25.220 --> 01:21:28.220] and over the counter I could see the other half of my file
[01:21:28.220 --> 01:21:31.220] and this other stack of documents on the top.
[01:21:31.220 --> 01:21:33.220] And she said, well, you can't see that.
[01:21:33.220 --> 01:21:37.220] And I said, well, it looks like one of the papers is supposed to be in here
[01:21:37.220 --> 01:21:38.220] and I brought them.
[01:21:38.220 --> 01:21:43.220] But what ended up happening is she was saying that if that was a closed file,
[01:21:43.220 --> 01:21:44.220] I could not access.
[01:21:44.220 --> 01:21:48.220] And she said, that's not open to the public.
[01:21:48.220 --> 01:21:50.220] And Gail said, she's not public.
[01:21:50.220 --> 01:21:52.220] She's in the case.
[01:21:52.220 --> 01:21:53.220] And the woman said, it doesn't matter.
[01:21:53.220 --> 01:21:58.220] You're going to have to get, the only way you can see it is if the judge gives you permission.
[01:21:58.220 --> 01:22:02.220] And I said, well, what if the judge decides not to see it?
[01:22:02.220 --> 01:22:05.220] You can't see it.
[01:22:05.220 --> 01:22:07.220] Long story short, they wouldn't let us.
[01:22:07.220 --> 01:22:08.220] We kept asking for supervisors.
[01:22:08.220 --> 01:22:10.220] No one would.
[01:22:10.220 --> 01:22:12.220] We were told the supervisors weren't there.
[01:22:12.220 --> 01:22:20.220] We would have to call back in an hour or so and speak to a supervisor that I was not allowed to access.
[01:22:20.220 --> 01:22:22.220] In fact, it was a secret file.
[01:22:22.220 --> 01:22:29.220] But the Maureen, the girl that waited on us yesterday, told me, well, this stuff is all actually in your file.
[01:22:29.220 --> 01:22:30.220] It's all filed.
[01:22:30.220 --> 01:22:32.220] That is a file and it's filed.
[01:22:32.220 --> 01:22:35.220] You just can't, you can't look at it.
[01:22:35.220 --> 01:22:40.220] And on top of the documents that I wasn't allowed to have,
[01:22:40.220 --> 01:22:43.220] I could see a paper that had the signature of my husband's attorney there.
[01:22:43.220 --> 01:22:50.220] So I have no idea what other things are filed in this secret part of the file that I'm not allowed to see.
[01:22:50.220 --> 01:22:51.220] We left.
[01:22:51.220 --> 01:22:53.220] I called.
[01:22:53.220 --> 01:22:55.220] And then I ended up being four hours later.
[01:22:55.220 --> 01:22:58.220] So we had a snowstorm here.
[01:22:58.220 --> 01:22:59.220] They knew immediately.
[01:22:59.220 --> 01:23:04.220] I mean, the woman, first they put me on hold for 10 minutes before the supervisor came.
[01:23:04.220 --> 01:23:08.220] And the woman knew without me having to find myself, it was me.
[01:23:08.220 --> 01:23:11.220] And she said, well, you know, you can't have that file.
[01:23:11.220 --> 01:23:14.220] The only way you can do it is if the judge gives permission.
[01:23:14.220 --> 01:23:17.220] And she went through the filing dance.
[01:23:17.220 --> 01:23:21.220] And I said, I brought that there to have it filed into the file.
[01:23:21.220 --> 01:23:25.220] Well, I mean, now you're saying Dale was talking to you about this.
[01:23:25.220 --> 01:23:28.220] And that sounds unusual.
[01:23:28.220 --> 01:23:29.220] I'm sorry.
[01:23:29.220 --> 01:23:38.220] Typically, family court files are only accessible by parties or their attorneys.
[01:23:38.220 --> 01:23:46.220] But at the same time, since you are obviously a party in the custody case and divorce proceedings,
[01:23:46.220 --> 01:23:48.220] you should be able to see everything.
[01:23:48.220 --> 01:23:52.220] I mean, didn't Dale tell you what the law is in Minnesota?
[01:23:52.220 --> 01:23:57.220] I mean, are you entitled to see that in Minnesota?
[01:23:57.220 --> 01:24:00.220] That's what he said.
[01:24:00.220 --> 01:24:09.220] Well, then that sounds like a situation where there's either the clerk engaging in misconduct
[01:24:09.220 --> 01:24:19.220] or the judge has done something that is improper in prohibiting you from accessing your own family court file.
[01:24:19.220 --> 01:24:23.220] Well, we went back today and Dale brought a video camera.
[01:24:23.220 --> 01:24:24.220] That's cool.
[01:24:24.220 --> 01:24:28.220] We went back today, the sheriffs let us in with the camera and they said,
[01:24:28.220 --> 01:24:30.220] where are you headed with it?
[01:24:30.220 --> 01:24:31.220] I said, not to the courtrooms.
[01:24:31.220 --> 01:24:34.220] We're only going to the records area.
[01:24:34.220 --> 01:24:35.220] And they said, oh, well, that's fine.
[01:24:35.220 --> 01:24:37.220] You can take it there.
[01:24:37.220 --> 01:24:41.220] The founders said now there's freedom of the press and public trials,
[01:24:41.220 --> 01:24:47.220] but no way, shape, or form if anyone invents video cameras can they ever go in courtrooms.
[01:24:47.220 --> 01:24:49.220] That's what Judge Washington said.
[01:24:49.220 --> 01:24:50.220] Right.
[01:24:50.220 --> 01:24:51.220] Right.
[01:24:51.220 --> 01:24:53.220] Yeah, right.
[01:24:53.220 --> 01:24:58.220] The clerk, the records, and Dale starts to take the camera out of the bag.
[01:24:58.220 --> 01:25:04.220] The clerk leans across the counter, knows him by name already, and says, Mr. Nathan,
[01:25:04.220 --> 01:25:07.220] I'm sorry, you're not allowed to have that video camera in here.
[01:25:07.220 --> 01:25:09.220] You can't have cameras in here.
[01:25:09.220 --> 01:25:11.220] The judge, he said, could you tell me why not?
[01:25:11.220 --> 01:25:13.220] She said, it's a court order.
[01:25:13.220 --> 01:25:14.220] The judge has ordered it.
[01:25:14.220 --> 01:25:17.220] He said, may I see that, have a copy of that order please.
[01:25:17.220 --> 01:25:20.220] And she said, oh, you can have a copy of it.
[01:25:20.220 --> 01:25:26.220] Well, this third person came as a witness also with us, so we went up to the counter
[01:25:26.220 --> 01:25:28.220] and we couldn't use the camera then.
[01:25:28.220 --> 01:25:30.220] I again asked for my records.
[01:25:30.220 --> 01:25:31.220] They only handed me part of them.
[01:25:31.220 --> 01:25:32.220] This time it was Sue.
[01:25:32.220 --> 01:25:34.220] It was the head.
[01:25:34.220 --> 01:25:35.220] It was not Sue.
[01:25:35.220 --> 01:25:38.220] It was Ann, this time, who was the supervisor.
[01:25:38.220 --> 01:25:39.220] Let me ask you a question.
[01:25:39.220 --> 01:25:44.220] Did they ever produce this order that supposedly prohibits you from coming in the court office?
[01:25:44.220 --> 01:25:50.220] They produced it at the very end and it did not technically prohibit us from doing it.
[01:25:50.220 --> 01:25:53.220] Well, then they just violated your rights under color law.
[01:25:53.220 --> 01:25:57.220] That's a 10-year federal felony.
[01:25:57.220 --> 01:25:58.220] Right.
[01:25:58.220 --> 01:26:01.220] That's right.
[01:26:01.220 --> 01:26:06.220] And what else happened is they didn't put, they wouldn't put my,
[01:26:06.220 --> 01:26:08.220] they wouldn't give me all my records.
[01:26:08.220 --> 01:26:14.220] The woman said that the judge this morning, and I said, well, who sealed them?
[01:26:14.220 --> 01:26:15.220] And she said, Judge Mayer.
[01:26:15.220 --> 01:26:18.220] I said, he's not even the sitting judge on this case.
[01:26:18.220 --> 01:26:23.220] And she said, well, he sealed them on behalf of, she didn't say on behalf of,
[01:26:23.220 --> 01:26:28.220] she said he sealed them until Judge Spicer can get back in on Monday and decide
[01:26:28.220 --> 01:26:33.220] whether or not he's going to allow them to be put, filed into the record.
[01:26:33.220 --> 01:26:35.220] And I said, but by whose authority?
[01:26:35.220 --> 01:26:39.220] I brought these in to have them filed in the public record.
[01:26:39.220 --> 01:26:44.220] She said, we're protecting you because you're not going to want your neighbors
[01:26:44.220 --> 01:26:47.220] to come here and read these things about you or your children.
[01:26:47.220 --> 01:26:51.220] I said, I brought them to be filed in and they're not in the record.
[01:26:51.220 --> 01:26:53.220] And she said, well, they're in the record.
[01:26:53.220 --> 01:26:55.220] I said, they're not filed.
[01:26:55.220 --> 01:27:00.220] And she said, well, they're in an un, and I said an un what?
[01:27:00.220 --> 01:27:01.220] Unfiled because she caught herself.
[01:27:01.220 --> 01:27:04.220] And then she goes, a confidential.
[01:27:04.220 --> 01:27:08.220] Confidential group of papers, which is inside the file.
[01:27:08.220 --> 01:27:11.220] And I said, yeah, but you just, it's not really filed.
[01:27:11.220 --> 01:27:14.220] My problem is those are not on the docket.
[01:27:14.220 --> 01:27:19.220] There is no proof that they are ever entered into the court.
[01:27:19.220 --> 01:27:25.220] Now, your judge presiding over your case is actually one of the judges featured,
[01:27:25.220 --> 01:27:28.220] I believe, in Dale Nathan's book, Minnesota Injustice.
[01:27:28.220 --> 01:27:29.220] Yes, he is.
[01:27:29.220 --> 01:27:30.220] Yes.
[01:27:30.220 --> 01:27:37.220] Okay, I mean, that's why you're seeing funky stuff going on.
[01:27:37.220 --> 01:27:39.220] That's why you're seeing funky stuff.
[01:27:39.220 --> 01:27:40.220] Right.
[01:27:40.220 --> 01:27:47.220] Well, see, I'm trying to get this, I'm trying to get the judge, the judge's case
[01:27:47.220 --> 01:27:53.220] because he's so biased and this is just the tip of the iceberg of things that he's doing.
[01:27:53.220 --> 01:27:59.220] Well, when they take cash to fix a case, you know, I mean, it fixes him, so.
[01:27:59.220 --> 01:28:00.220] Yeah.
[01:28:00.220 --> 01:28:02.220] Then you've got to be outside the box.
[01:28:02.220 --> 01:28:07.220] And so, I mean, I think Randy would say, you know,
[01:28:07.220 --> 01:28:10.220] it's time to get aggressive and file some criminal charges
[01:28:10.220 --> 01:28:13.220] because they've given you a couple things to mess with.
[01:28:13.220 --> 01:28:18.220] And I know Dale, I mean, Dale's involved with me and Popular for People,
[01:28:18.220 --> 01:28:21.220] which is a judicial reform organization.
[01:28:21.220 --> 01:28:26.220] And he also knows Nancy Lazarian up there in Minnesota.
[01:28:26.220 --> 01:28:31.220] And they're working with some legislators trying to get some reforms going up there.
[01:28:31.220 --> 01:28:37.220] And this is the type of stuff that needs to be brought to the public attention up there
[01:28:37.220 --> 01:28:42.220] because you're talking about completely absurd behavior.
[01:28:42.220 --> 01:28:46.220] We're doing a meeting for the legislators on March 13th.
[01:28:46.220 --> 01:28:49.220] We've been at the state capitol for the last three, four weeks.
[01:28:49.220 --> 01:28:51.220] Well, I've only been there for the last three or four weeks in a row.
[01:28:51.220 --> 01:28:53.220] They've been doing it for a long time.
[01:28:53.220 --> 01:28:56.220] The meeting, we've met with all kinds of legislators.
[01:28:56.220 --> 01:28:59.220] We've been speaking to a ton of legislators.
[01:28:59.220 --> 01:29:01.220] And they're going to be there the 13th.
[01:29:01.220 --> 01:29:04.220] And, I mean, this is exactly what's going on.
[01:29:04.220 --> 01:29:06.220] Nobody can believe what the judges are doing.
[01:29:06.220 --> 01:29:11.220] But it's like this woman told me that the file was sealed,
[01:29:11.220 --> 01:29:13.220] that I couldn't access my own records.
[01:29:13.220 --> 01:29:18.220] And she said, and Dale said to her, well, what does she have to do to see it?
[01:29:18.220 --> 01:29:20.220] And she said, well, she can ask the judge.
[01:29:20.220 --> 01:29:25.220] And Dale said, and if the judge doesn't want to let her see it, well, then she can't see it.
[01:29:25.220 --> 01:29:27.220] And he said, I have never heard of this.
[01:29:27.220 --> 01:29:29.220] He said, you don't realize how serious this is.
[01:29:29.220 --> 01:29:31.220] But the lady didn't seem to matter.
[01:29:31.220 --> 01:29:35.220] And I would, I mean, like, I want to file charges.
[01:29:35.220 --> 01:29:37.220] The clerks are following orders.
[01:29:37.220 --> 01:29:40.220] But, I mean, if you're following orders...
[01:29:40.220 --> 01:29:41.220] Too bad.
[01:29:41.220 --> 01:29:45.220] ...the following orders defense doesn't immunize you from liability.
[01:29:45.220 --> 01:29:46.220] Yeah, really.
[01:29:46.220 --> 01:29:48.220] Listen, listen, we're going to break.
[01:29:48.220 --> 01:29:51.220] When we come back from break, we're going to bring up our guest, Ken Magnuson.
[01:29:51.220 --> 01:29:53.220] We'll be right back.
[01:29:53.220 --> 01:29:55.220] I'm going to go ahead and leave now, too.
[01:29:55.220 --> 01:29:57.220] It was a pleasure, and I'll...
[01:29:57.220 --> 01:29:59.220] Thank you, Mark.
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[01:31:23.220 --> 01:31:51.220] Away, away, throw the vote machines away, we can't see them count.
[01:31:51.220 --> 01:31:55.220] This is the rule of law.
[01:31:55.220 --> 01:31:57.220] Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:31:57.220 --> 01:31:59.220] Cuddy from Michigan.
[01:31:59.220 --> 01:32:00.220] I'm so sorry.
[01:32:00.220 --> 01:32:04.220] We really need to go to our guest.
[01:32:04.220 --> 01:32:07.220] Cuddy, if you could please call back later on in the show.
[01:32:07.220 --> 01:32:10.220] We are here with Ken Magnuson now.
[01:32:10.220 --> 01:32:15.220] And Ken, what do you have for us tonight?
[01:32:15.220 --> 01:32:18.220] Randy, do you have a topic that you have planned with Ken?
[01:32:18.220 --> 01:32:24.220] Yeah, we were going to continue from where we were last time on civil procedure.
[01:32:24.220 --> 01:32:25.220] Excellent.
[01:32:25.220 --> 01:32:26.220] Go ahead, Ken.
[01:32:26.220 --> 01:32:31.220] We're going to give everybody a quick intro to what we've basically covered.
[01:32:31.220 --> 01:32:32.220] Those are in the archive.
[01:32:32.220 --> 01:32:37.220] But one of the disclaimers I need to say immediately is I'm not a lawyer.
[01:32:37.220 --> 01:32:45.220] And anybody that uses material that they find from any site on the Internet should carefully review it
[01:32:45.220 --> 01:32:47.220] before they submit it to a court.
[01:32:47.220 --> 01:32:51.220] And if you have any doubts, seek professional legal counsel.
[01:32:51.220 --> 01:32:54.220] And that's the end of the disclaimer.
[01:32:54.220 --> 01:33:02.220] So what we have here is we go back to the processes of court.
[01:33:02.220 --> 01:33:13.220] We started with the first episode where we addressed various types of civil court, district court, state court, federal court.
[01:33:13.220 --> 01:33:20.220] And then we started last time on lawsuits in state court.
[01:33:20.220 --> 01:33:25.220] Now, recognize that I'm going to give it from a perspective of the state court in Texas.
[01:33:25.220 --> 01:33:30.220] Most states have a similar process.
[01:33:30.220 --> 01:33:37.220] The only one that might be a little strange is Louisiana because they have a Napoleonic code.
[01:33:37.220 --> 01:33:43.220] Who knows how they address it in Louisiana, but it still should be similar.
[01:33:43.220 --> 01:33:49.220] The process for civil suits has to start from what we had started discussing.
[01:33:49.220 --> 01:33:53.220] Was it last Friday or have I slept since then that we did this?
[01:33:53.220 --> 01:33:55.220] It wasn't last Friday.
[01:33:55.220 --> 01:33:57.220] It was Friday before.
[01:33:57.220 --> 01:33:58.220] Right, Friday before.
[01:33:58.220 --> 01:34:01.220] Okay, so it's been two weeks.
[01:34:01.220 --> 01:34:09.220] We addressed basically the concept of filing a lawsuit and about getting all your ducks in a row,
[01:34:09.220 --> 01:34:16.220] doing all the research, reading all the rules, planning the game, the entire process from front to end,
[01:34:16.220 --> 01:34:22.220] what I refer to as putting the entire case in the can, which is a movie metaphor.
[01:34:22.220 --> 01:34:26.220] The idea is to understand the end game, and that was one of the things we addressed,
[01:34:26.220 --> 01:34:33.220] the idea of thinking about the issues you have to prove to a jury, a jury charge.
[01:34:33.220 --> 01:34:37.220] That doesn't happen until you get near trial time, but you need to be thinking of that
[01:34:37.220 --> 01:34:42.220] because that's the concept of what needs to be in your original pleading.
[01:34:42.220 --> 01:34:49.220] Now, for those listening, it's absolutely impossible to address all the possible ramifications
[01:34:49.220 --> 01:34:54.220] of how a cause of action would come about if you would file it in court.
[01:34:54.220 --> 01:35:00.220] In Texas, there's a series of books by O'Connor's, and there is one called Causes of Action.
[01:35:00.220 --> 01:35:03.220] There's also another series by Grisaneo.
[01:35:03.220 --> 01:35:08.220] I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
[01:35:08.220 --> 01:35:13.220] That series is like 33 volumes, 34 volumes.
[01:35:13.220 --> 01:35:17.220] It's probably gotten longer since the last time I looked at it.
[01:35:17.220 --> 01:35:21.220] It has in it every type of cause of action.
[01:35:21.220 --> 01:35:26.220] When you have a particular cause of action, you look it up in these books,
[01:35:26.220 --> 01:35:31.220] and it shows both sides of the case, what the plaintiff has to prove
[01:35:31.220 --> 01:35:38.220] and what the defendant has to raise as a defense to essentially overcome the burden of proof
[01:35:38.220 --> 01:35:43.220] that the plaintiff is attempting to raise anyway.
[01:35:43.220 --> 01:35:47.220] All of this has to be supported by evidence,
[01:35:47.220 --> 01:35:52.220] and you have to look up all of the little idiosyncrasies of a particular cause of action,
[01:35:52.220 --> 01:35:55.220] which we couldn't possibly address.
[01:35:55.220 --> 01:35:59.220] They can't even possibly address it in law school when you go to law school for three years.
[01:35:59.220 --> 01:36:02.220] They've covered their necessities,
[01:36:02.220 --> 01:36:08.220] but most lawyers have to learn this kind of by being dropped into the deep end of the pool.
[01:36:08.220 --> 01:36:11.220] And that's why they call it practicing law.
[01:36:11.220 --> 01:36:16.220] Absolutely.
[01:36:16.220 --> 01:36:18.220] Let's see.
[01:36:18.220 --> 01:36:22.220] First off, we go back to the beginning of the process.
[01:36:22.220 --> 01:36:25.220] We're going to look at the documents that need to be filed.
[01:36:25.220 --> 01:36:27.220] Starting with a lawsuit by the plaintiff,
[01:36:27.220 --> 01:36:36.220] which is the perspective we're taking right now, is the original pleading, the original petition.
[01:36:36.220 --> 01:36:38.220] And it has a caption.
[01:36:38.220 --> 01:36:44.220] The caption is going to be something to do with the state that you're in
[01:36:44.220 --> 01:36:47.220] and the court that you're filing it in.
[01:36:47.220 --> 01:36:50.220] And we're back to the area of jurisdiction.
[01:36:50.220 --> 01:36:55.220] Causes of action, we'll discuss which court has jurisdiction.
[01:36:55.220 --> 01:37:01.220] Some simple examples are a car accident.
[01:37:01.220 --> 01:37:07.220] Possible jurisdictions could be where the accident actually occurred,
[01:37:07.220 --> 01:37:10.220] where the plaintiff lives potentially,
[01:37:10.220 --> 01:37:15.220] where the defendant or defendants live potentially.
[01:37:15.220 --> 01:37:19.220] Venue could be any of one of these places as well.
[01:37:19.220 --> 01:37:24.220] There may be a preferred venue, which is specified by law.
[01:37:24.220 --> 01:37:28.220] And as long as none of the parties object,
[01:37:28.220 --> 01:37:35.220] any court that has essentially concurrent jurisdiction and has venue,
[01:37:35.220 --> 01:37:41.220] which may not be the priority venue, has the ability to hear the case.
[01:37:41.220 --> 01:37:43.220] One party has to object to it.
[01:37:43.220 --> 01:37:44.220] Yeah.
[01:37:44.220 --> 01:37:48.220] Let me offer an example so it makes sense.
[01:37:48.220 --> 01:37:54.220] In a county, you have a number of justices of the peace.
[01:37:54.220 --> 01:38:02.220] They have county jurisdiction, but they tend to only have venue within their precinct.
[01:38:02.220 --> 01:38:03.220] Is that right, Ken?
[01:38:03.220 --> 01:38:04.220] Correct.
[01:38:04.220 --> 01:38:09.220] What that would mean is that a case arising against a party within that county,
[01:38:09.220 --> 01:38:14.220] any one of those justices of the peace courts could actually hear the case.
[01:38:14.220 --> 01:38:19.220] Say the next door neighbor's dog got out and bit somebody.
[01:38:19.220 --> 01:38:23.220] So this is a personal injury lawsuit.
[01:38:23.220 --> 01:38:25.220] And it was a small issue.
[01:38:25.220 --> 01:38:30.220] It wasn't a big issue because justices of the peace courts are generally small issues.
[01:38:30.220 --> 01:38:36.220] Why? When you file that with the justice of the peace,
[01:38:36.220 --> 01:38:41.220] there is a specific requirement for the cause of action to be in the, say,
[01:38:41.220 --> 01:38:46.220] the example under that set of circumstances is where the defendant lives.
[01:38:46.220 --> 01:38:49.220] Well, if you live next door and the dog came across the street,
[01:38:49.220 --> 01:38:54.220] chances are you live in the same justice of the peace precinct anyway.
[01:38:54.220 --> 01:38:56.220] So it would be there.
[01:38:56.220 --> 01:39:02.220] However, if you had been involved in, say, going to a dog show or something like that
[01:39:02.220 --> 01:39:08.220] and you had visited a different precinct in a different city and one of the dogs bit you,
[01:39:08.220 --> 01:39:14.220] then the requirement possibly would be to sue them where they live.
[01:39:14.220 --> 01:39:19.220] Now, the complication of all of this of where jurisdiction and venue comes in
[01:39:19.220 --> 01:39:23.220] is what if the person they came was from a different county?
[01:39:23.220 --> 01:39:27.220] Would you sue them where the accident occurred?
[01:39:27.220 --> 01:39:29.220] And I can't answer that question off the top of my head.
[01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:31.220] I would have to research that.
[01:39:31.220 --> 01:39:33.220] That's a possibility.
[01:39:33.220 --> 01:39:40.220] But if the person actually lived where the dog show was taking place in another precinct within the county,
[01:39:40.220 --> 01:39:43.220] you would have to, under Texas law, sue them there.
[01:39:43.220 --> 01:39:46.220] That's the proper venue where the defendant lives.
[01:39:46.220 --> 01:39:54.220] Now, if you filed the suit where you live and the defendant didn't raise an objection,
[01:39:54.220 --> 01:39:57.220] you could still have the case heard where you filed it.
[01:39:57.220 --> 01:39:59.220] The objection has to be raised immediately.
[01:39:59.220 --> 01:40:04.220] Venue is one of those that you waive unless you object to it.
[01:40:04.220 --> 01:40:09.220] As a matter of fact, venue is so specific that there are some cases that specify
[01:40:09.220 --> 01:40:14.220] that even in the plea and the answer that you would file,
[01:40:14.220 --> 01:40:18.220] they have to have venue listed first.
[01:40:18.220 --> 01:40:24.220] If they get into jurisdiction and don't address venue first, they may have waived it,
[01:40:24.220 --> 01:40:27.220] and it gets into really muddy water there.
[01:40:27.220 --> 01:40:29.220] So the issue is if you're going to object about venue,
[01:40:29.220 --> 01:40:36.220] you always object to venue in the first possible sentence you can.
[01:40:36.220 --> 01:40:38.220] And why is that?
[01:40:38.220 --> 01:40:43.220] Why is venue considered so critical?
[01:40:43.220 --> 01:40:50.220] Well, it's where the state legislature has generally said where you have to file the suit.
[01:40:50.220 --> 01:40:55.220] They've given preferential treatment to a specific venue, a particular location,
[01:40:55.220 --> 01:41:00.220] and most of this is to overcome the idea of prejudicial lawsuits,
[01:41:00.220 --> 01:41:04.220] meaning that a person lives in one precinct or one county
[01:41:04.220 --> 01:41:07.220] and files lawsuits against people in another county.
[01:41:07.220 --> 01:41:10.220] What they're saying is that not only do you have the burden of proof,
[01:41:10.220 --> 01:41:13.220] but the burden of proof is to go into their county and say,
[01:41:13.220 --> 01:41:16.220] here, I'm coming in a foreign county,
[01:41:16.220 --> 01:41:20.220] and I'm going to have the burden of proof and sue your citizen here.
[01:41:20.220 --> 01:41:25.220] So it can't look like the county that you live in has a thing against everybody else.
[01:41:25.220 --> 01:41:27.220] And I think that's where it arises from.
[01:41:27.220 --> 01:41:31.220] That's just a logical conclusion that I've come to on this.
[01:41:31.220 --> 01:41:34.220] However, there's some gray areas involved in all of this.
[01:41:34.220 --> 01:41:37.220] That's one of the things that happens when we talk about going to federal courts.
[01:41:37.220 --> 01:41:39.220] They talk about diversity.
[01:41:39.220 --> 01:41:41.220] And this is just a little side issue.
[01:41:41.220 --> 01:41:46.220] But diversity is where you're involved in a car accident in one state,
[01:41:46.220 --> 01:41:49.220] but the person driving the other car is from another state.
[01:41:49.220 --> 01:41:53.220] Then you would sue under your state's laws in a federal court
[01:41:53.220 --> 01:41:56.220] because the other party is from a different state.
[01:41:56.220 --> 01:41:59.220] What they're saying is it's unfair to sue people from other states
[01:41:59.220 --> 01:42:03.220] in the state that you live in because there will be preferential treatment.
[01:42:03.220 --> 01:42:05.220] There will be a prejudice, a natural prejudice,
[01:42:05.220 --> 01:42:07.220] against the people who live in that other state.
[01:42:07.220 --> 01:42:10.220] Our people drive great in this state,
[01:42:10.220 --> 01:42:14.220] but we don't know what those people drive like in the other states.
[01:42:14.220 --> 01:42:16.220] So we hold them to a higher standard.
[01:42:16.220 --> 01:42:20.220] And I'm fairly sure that that's how they set it up.
[01:42:20.220 --> 01:42:25.220] So we get back to the issue of venue.
[01:42:25.220 --> 01:42:30.220] Another side discussion on venue would be like bankruptcy.
[01:42:30.220 --> 01:42:32.220] It's my understanding.
[01:42:32.220 --> 01:42:36.220] If I'm wrong, somebody will e-mail me and correct me.
[01:42:36.220 --> 01:42:39.220] But my understanding is any district bankruptcy court
[01:42:39.220 --> 01:42:42.220] in the United States can hear of bankruptcy.
[01:42:42.220 --> 01:42:45.220] It's a question of whether or not it's proper venue.
[01:42:45.220 --> 01:42:50.220] Venue is usually where the person petitioning the court for bankruptcy files.
[01:42:50.220 --> 01:42:54.220] So if you file someplace, the other parties can object.
[01:42:54.220 --> 01:42:58.220] They can say, wait a second, you live in Chicago, Illinois,
[01:42:58.220 --> 01:43:01.220] and you're filing this in Boise, Idaho. Why?
[01:43:01.220 --> 01:43:04.220] You know, we don't want to go to Boise to fight this.
[01:43:04.220 --> 01:43:08.220] We want you to fight it in Chicago, which is proper venue.
[01:43:08.220 --> 01:43:13.220] But if they waive the venue, you know, any federal court can hear it.
[01:43:13.220 --> 01:43:16.220] That's just another example of venue.
[01:43:16.220 --> 01:43:20.220] So once you start the process, you have to think about venue,
[01:43:20.220 --> 01:43:25.220] because jurisdiction and venue are like captions in the front of your pleading,
[01:43:25.220 --> 01:43:30.220] exactly what the cause of action is, why the court has jurisdiction.
[01:43:30.220 --> 01:43:34.220] And the next thing you're going to mention are the parties, the people involved.
[01:43:34.220 --> 01:43:38.220] You identify them by full name, corporation name.
[01:43:38.220 --> 01:43:41.220] If you plead, there's been a lot of arguments about corporations.
[01:43:41.220 --> 01:43:46.220] We're going to break. We'll be right back.
[01:43:46.220 --> 01:43:47.220] This is the rule of law.
[01:43:47.220 --> 01:43:50.220] Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, we're here with Ken Magnuson.
[01:43:50.220 --> 01:43:52.220] We'll be right back.
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[01:45:15.220 --> 01:45:37.220] Hello. Oh, man. Get jailed. You got broke, didn't you? Oh, man, I'm broke, man.
[01:45:37.220 --> 01:45:52.220] All right. Somebody's going to police the policeman.
[01:45:52.220 --> 01:45:54.220] Somebody's going to bully the bully.
[01:45:54.220 --> 01:45:59.220] We are here with Ken Magnuson, Randy Kelton, and Deborah Stevens.
[01:45:59.220 --> 01:46:02.220] Okay, Ken, please continue.
[01:46:02.220 --> 01:46:04.220] Where did we leave off?
[01:46:04.220 --> 01:46:10.220] We left off as talking about the concept of the original pleading for a petition.
[01:46:10.220 --> 01:46:14.220] Yeah, you finished with the headings.
[01:46:14.220 --> 01:46:17.220] So you're getting down to the issue of parties.
[01:46:17.220 --> 01:46:19.220] Now, it's easy when they're individuals.
[01:46:19.220 --> 01:46:21.220] You just name them.
[01:46:21.220 --> 01:46:26.220] There are some fallacies out there that if somebody's name is, you know,
[01:46:26.220 --> 01:46:32.220] John Q. Doe, that if you leave the Q out, all of a sudden they haven't been named.
[01:46:32.220 --> 01:46:38.220] There are rules that cover the reasonableness of an omission of a middle name
[01:46:38.220 --> 01:46:43.220] or middle initial or even the misspelling, and that can be corrected later.
[01:46:43.220 --> 01:46:49.220] It doesn't mean that the suit is invalid just because there's a slight identification issue.
[01:46:49.220 --> 01:46:54.220] That can be corrected, so the preciseness of it.
[01:46:54.220 --> 01:46:58.220] We've also had this thing in Texas where everybody's gotten into this upper-case,
[01:46:58.220 --> 01:47:02.220] lower-case issue about corporations.
[01:47:02.220 --> 01:47:06.220] There used to be a rule in the Rules of Civil Procedure in Texas that talked about
[01:47:06.220 --> 01:47:10.220] corporations being pled in upper case.
[01:47:10.220 --> 01:47:12.220] That rule has been rescinded.
[01:47:12.220 --> 01:47:14.220] It's gone.
[01:47:14.220 --> 01:47:17.220] It no longer exists.
[01:47:17.220 --> 01:47:24.220] But my theory of what it was intended to do was differentiate between John Smith,
[01:47:24.220 --> 01:47:29.220] the president of Smith, Incorporated, from discussion about the individual
[01:47:29.220 --> 01:47:31.220] John Smith and Smith, Incorporated.
[01:47:31.220 --> 01:47:35.220] So when the corporation acted as a unified body,
[01:47:35.220 --> 01:47:39.220] they wanted that in upper case so you knew that they were talking about the corporation.
[01:47:39.220 --> 01:47:43.220] But you generally don't say everywhere you mention a corporation.
[01:47:43.220 --> 01:47:48.220] If you were suing IBM and if anybody from IBM is listening, I'm just using it as an example.
[01:47:48.220 --> 01:47:50.220] I mean no slight.
[01:47:50.220 --> 01:47:55.220] But you don't specify IBM, Incorporated in every single time you mention IBM.
[01:47:55.220 --> 01:48:01.220] You mention IBM, Incorporated in the parties at the top of the suit,
[01:48:01.220 --> 01:48:04.220] but you don't mention IBM, Incorporated every single time.
[01:48:04.220 --> 01:48:08.220] You would recognize IBM as all upper-case letters.
[01:48:08.220 --> 01:48:13.220] So I'm sure that that's what, and it was about a style,
[01:48:13.220 --> 01:48:19.220] and we've got to recognize that the origination of most of the Rules of Civil Procedure in Texas
[01:48:19.220 --> 01:48:24.220] and from my understanding in most states is homogated from the state Supreme Court.
[01:48:24.220 --> 01:48:35.220] The actual context of how the Rule is applied is this is actually administrative law from the Supreme Court.
[01:48:35.220 --> 01:48:39.220] They set up what the length, width, and breadth of that Rule applies to,
[01:48:39.220 --> 01:48:44.220] and when they said it was a style issue, they're talking about style,
[01:48:44.220 --> 01:48:47.220] what the top of the form of the document looks like.
[01:48:47.220 --> 01:48:49.220] Those documents are divided.
[01:48:49.220 --> 01:48:51.220] They have that section marked when you do a pleading.
[01:48:51.220 --> 01:48:53.220] The first page has a section marked.
[01:48:53.220 --> 01:49:00.220] On the right-hand side, it has the court in the state of Texas, in Dallas County,
[01:49:00.220 --> 01:49:05.220] in court number three, or district court number 255, whatever it is.
[01:49:05.220 --> 01:49:10.220] On the other side of the party, Smith versus Jones,
[01:49:10.220 --> 01:49:15.220] or in the case I just gave, it would be Jones versus Smith, Incorporated,
[01:49:15.220 --> 01:49:21.220] comma, maybe Smith, indicating the owner of the company, et al.
[01:49:21.220 --> 01:49:25.220] Now, one of the things we talk about with et al is there may be other people
[01:49:25.220 --> 01:49:32.220] that haven't been identified in the suit that might be discovered later in the suit as you do discovery.
[01:49:32.220 --> 01:49:38.220] Et al is a placeholder for all those people that aren't known.
[01:49:38.220 --> 01:49:44.220] If you don't put et al when you anticipate there's a whole slew of other people involved,
[01:49:44.220 --> 01:49:48.220] you may run into issues of statute of limitations
[01:49:48.220 --> 01:49:52.220] and may not be able to join these other defendants to the suit at a later date.
[01:49:52.220 --> 01:49:56.220] You list et al and indicate in the parties that there are other people
[01:49:56.220 --> 01:50:01.220] that may be identified in the process of doing discovery, then you've covered it.
[01:50:01.220 --> 01:50:06.220] You've kind of named them as a placeholder.
[01:50:06.220 --> 01:50:09.220] Once you've listed out all the names of the party,
[01:50:09.220 --> 01:50:14.220] then the next thing that comes in most suits is how to do service on them.
[01:50:14.220 --> 01:50:18.220] If they're a corporation, where their agent of record can be served,
[01:50:18.220 --> 01:50:23.220] if they're an individual, where they reside.
[01:50:23.220 --> 01:50:28.220] The next part of the suit will be what the basic issue is or construct of the suit,
[01:50:28.220 --> 01:50:30.220] and that gets into a lot of issues.
[01:50:30.220 --> 01:50:34.220] We don't want to go into a he-said-she-said in detail.
[01:50:34.220 --> 01:50:40.220] We want to talk about a story that's got too much conversation
[01:50:40.220 --> 01:50:44.220] and it's not a dialogue necessarily.
[01:50:44.220 --> 01:50:52.220] It's a basic overview of the elements of the case.
[01:50:52.220 --> 01:50:58.220] Driving in a car, XYZ car, the defendant's car,
[01:50:58.220 --> 01:51:05.220] a silver SUV, Ford, license plate number, da-da-da-da-da,
[01:51:05.220 --> 01:51:13.220] driving southbound on Interstate I-35 at a particular location,
[01:51:13.220 --> 01:51:18.220] cross the median and get struck our car, a da-da-da-da-da,
[01:51:18.220 --> 01:51:20.220] and you tell the basic story.
[01:51:20.220 --> 01:51:26.220] You don't tell the story about why you were driving down I-35 to begin with.
[01:51:26.220 --> 01:51:28.220] That's really unimportant.
[01:51:28.220 --> 01:51:33.220] I've seen a lot of cases where people start telling the story
[01:51:33.220 --> 01:51:35.220] and don't get to just the facts,
[01:51:35.220 --> 01:51:39.220] and this goes back to just the idea of the old dragnet series,
[01:51:39.220 --> 01:51:42.220] Jack Webb, where he always talked about just the facts.
[01:51:42.220 --> 01:51:50.220] It's not about making the argument, it's stating facts that are undeniably there.
[01:51:50.220 --> 01:51:52.220] There's a police report.
[01:51:52.220 --> 01:51:56.220] It happened in this precinct or this county or this location on the street.
[01:51:56.220 --> 01:51:58.220] An accident occurred.
[01:51:58.220 --> 01:51:59.220] So many people were injured.
[01:51:59.220 --> 01:52:04.220] They were taken to XYZ Hospital in some city.
[01:52:04.220 --> 01:52:08.220] They were injured.
[01:52:08.220 --> 01:52:10.220] You don't have to go into the details of the injury.
[01:52:10.220 --> 01:52:12.220] That will all come out later,
[01:52:12.220 --> 01:52:15.220] but the fact that you indicate they were seriously injured
[01:52:15.220 --> 01:52:20.220] as opposed to just superficially injured.
[01:52:20.220 --> 01:52:22.220] You indicate how many days in the hospital they spent,
[01:52:22.220 --> 01:52:25.220] how many days of recovery, this kind of thing,
[01:52:25.220 --> 01:52:31.220] and then you indicate why you feel that the other party was at fault.
[01:52:31.220 --> 01:52:34.220] The statement of facts of what happened in the case are all facts.
[01:52:34.220 --> 01:52:38.220] They're not arguments.
[01:52:38.220 --> 01:52:42.220] Next will come the argument and the request,
[01:52:42.220 --> 01:52:46.220] the argument of why they're guilty of this, why they need to pay damages,
[01:52:46.220 --> 01:52:50.220] and then finally at the end of this is the prayer,
[01:52:50.220 --> 01:52:53.220] and the prayer is what you're asking from the court.
[01:52:53.220 --> 01:52:57.220] You want to ask the court for all damages, compensation,
[01:52:57.220 --> 01:52:59.220] attorney's fee,
[01:52:59.220 --> 01:53:03.220] and then we get into the aspect of what kind of compensations are available,
[01:53:03.220 --> 01:53:06.220] and sometimes the cause of action may define that.
[01:53:06.220 --> 01:53:13.220] There's declaratory compensation.
[01:53:13.220 --> 01:53:17.220] There's, Randy might try to help me here with these
[01:53:17.220 --> 01:53:19.220] because I haven't looked at these in a long time.
[01:53:19.220 --> 01:53:22.220] There's lots of causes of action.
[01:53:22.220 --> 01:53:24.220] And there's lots of types of compensation.
[01:53:24.220 --> 01:53:27.220] The biggest thing is getting to punitive damages.
[01:53:27.220 --> 01:53:32.220] Usually in accidents you don't get to punitive damages.
[01:53:32.220 --> 01:53:34.220] Accidents are considered accidents.
[01:53:34.220 --> 01:53:36.220] They're not done deliberately.
[01:53:36.220 --> 01:53:40.220] When you get to something like maybe employment law
[01:53:40.220 --> 01:53:43.220] or somebody has assaulted you,
[01:53:43.220 --> 01:53:46.220] then there's an involvement of a person or persons
[01:53:46.220 --> 01:53:49.220] where they acted deliberately or intentionally.
[01:53:49.220 --> 01:53:56.220] And if that's bound to occur, frequently punitive damages will apply.
[01:53:56.220 --> 01:54:01.220] However, nobody can ever get punitive damages unless actual damages occur,
[01:54:01.220 --> 01:54:07.220] meaning that the jury or the judge has to find that you were indeed injured
[01:54:07.220 --> 01:54:19.220] to the tune of at least a dollar in order for them to look at the issue of punitive damages.
[01:54:19.220 --> 01:54:21.220] Go ahead, Ken.
[01:54:21.220 --> 01:54:25.220] But that gets into the issue of part of the cause of action as well.
[01:54:25.220 --> 01:54:27.220] When you finish that, you ask for that.
[01:54:27.220 --> 01:54:29.220] You always ask for attorney's fees.
[01:54:29.220 --> 01:54:33.220] Even if you don't have an attorney, you may end up getting one before the case is over.
[01:54:33.220 --> 01:54:37.220] If you don't plead for it in the beginning and don't amend your pleading,
[01:54:37.220 --> 01:54:39.220] then you don't get attorney's fees.
[01:54:39.220 --> 01:54:44.220] So you always ask for attorney's fees even if you don't have an attorney.
[01:54:44.220 --> 01:54:48.220] That's the basic construct of the original petition.
[01:54:48.220 --> 01:54:53.220] Now, before you ever file that in court, you sit down and go to the next step,
[01:54:53.220 --> 01:54:59.220] which is under the cause of action, you look at what elements you have to prove.
[01:54:59.220 --> 01:55:02.220] And each of those elements are going to be evident.
[01:55:02.220 --> 01:55:05.220] You're going to have to have witnesses that observed it.
[01:55:05.220 --> 01:55:10.220] Affidavits help, but the bottom line is if you go to trial, affidavits mean nothing.
[01:55:10.220 --> 01:55:16.220] You actually need that witness to come into court and testify on your own that they saw the accident,
[01:55:16.220 --> 01:55:19.220] that they recognized the driver of the other vehicle,
[01:55:19.220 --> 01:55:25.220] and that they can testify that that driver admitted that they did the wrong act.
[01:55:25.220 --> 01:55:28.220] That would help your case considerably.
[01:55:28.220 --> 01:55:34.220] You'll have to have the doctors testify as to the injuries and the nature of the industry, injuries.
[01:55:34.220 --> 01:55:38.220] You'll have to have somebody from the accounting department at the hospital testify
[01:55:38.220 --> 01:55:44.220] as to what the bills were, what the costs were, and that these were reasonable costs.
[01:55:44.220 --> 01:55:49.220] All of these elements are evidence to show that the accident occurred,
[01:55:49.220 --> 01:55:55.220] the injury was proximate to the other party, the other party was negligent,
[01:55:55.220 --> 01:55:58.220] but you did indeed sustain damages.
[01:55:58.220 --> 01:56:03.220] Injury, financial, physical injury, which causes financial injury.
[01:56:03.220 --> 01:56:06.220] And you go through that whole process.
[01:56:06.220 --> 01:56:09.220] Yeah, I would like to touch on this a little bit.
[01:56:09.220 --> 01:56:10.220] Okay.
[01:56:10.220 --> 01:56:18.220] I hear a lot from guys in legal reform complaining about how they filed suit
[01:56:18.220 --> 01:56:25.220] and the court threw it out based on an objection by the other party
[01:56:25.220 --> 01:56:31.220] that petitioner made no claim on which recovery could be had.
[01:56:31.220 --> 01:56:40.220] And that's not because they didn't accuse the other guy of doing something inappropriate or even suable,
[01:56:40.220 --> 01:56:44.220] but it's because they did not state a cause of action.
[01:56:44.220 --> 01:56:46.220] Correct.
[01:56:46.220 --> 01:56:50.220] The cause of action, whether it's a court, whether it's a physical injury,
[01:56:50.220 --> 01:56:58.220] all of these have labels and names in each state, and they may differ a little bit in each state.
[01:56:58.220 --> 01:57:05.220] So if it's a personal injury, auto accident, you have to look up the phrase personal injury, auto accident,
[01:57:05.220 --> 01:57:09.220] and then you look up the proximate causes of action under that.
[01:57:09.220 --> 01:57:12.220] You then indicate what under the state code.
[01:57:12.220 --> 01:57:14.220] When you're suing, when we're talking about the facts,
[01:57:14.220 --> 01:57:18.220] right before you get to the facts of the case, you allege the cause of action.
[01:57:18.220 --> 01:57:21.220] That's one of the things you're going to plead in there.
[01:57:21.220 --> 01:57:25.220] You're going to say, I have a cause of action because of the following.
[01:57:25.220 --> 01:57:34.220] And then you specify the statute or the common law right that gives you a right to walk into court and ask for damages.
[01:57:34.220 --> 01:57:43.220] That is pretty much where many of the people that I've met failed to state a cause of action.
[01:57:43.220 --> 01:57:50.220] Now that's obviously we're looking past the fact that we are well aware that there's some judges out there
[01:57:50.220 --> 01:57:53.220] that aren't following the rule.
[01:57:53.220 --> 01:57:59.220] So in a level playing field, assuming that the court is doing what it's supposed to do,
[01:57:59.220 --> 01:58:01.220] the reason a judge would throw it out.
[01:58:01.220 --> 01:58:07.220] In most state courts, if the statute of limitation hasn't expired
[01:58:07.220 --> 01:58:13.220] or the other side makes a motion for it to be dismissed because there's no cause of action,
[01:58:13.220 --> 01:58:16.220] the party is free to amend their bleeding right then and there.
[01:58:16.220 --> 01:58:23.220] Then before the judge issues it and says, Your Honor, we recognize we had a problem in our pleading.
[01:58:23.220 --> 01:58:27.220] Usually in Texas how that happens as opposed to the federal court.
[01:58:27.220 --> 01:58:31.220] The federal court is usually the one that would throw it out because you haven't stated a cause of action.
[01:58:31.220 --> 01:58:34.220] Okay, Ken, listen, we're going to break.
[01:58:34.220 --> 01:58:35.220] Okay.
[01:58:35.220 --> 01:58:37.220] Let's finish up when we come back on the other side.
[01:58:37.220 --> 01:59:05.220] This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:59:07.220 --> 01:59:11.220] When they try to keep you happy, they just try to keep you satisfied.
[01:59:11.220 --> 01:59:16.220] Mr. Pista, tell me, tell me, who do you think you are?
[01:59:16.220 --> 01:59:33.220] Mr. Pista, you're never gonna get my love.
[01:59:33.220 --> 01:59:39.220] I'd rather give my love to a boy guy that has a love that's real.
[01:59:39.220 --> 01:59:43.220] Than to be fooled around and get raped by you.
[01:59:43.220 --> 01:59:48.220] Because when I give my love, I want love in return.
[01:59:48.220 --> 01:59:53.220] Now I know this is a lesson, Mr. Pista, you haven't learned.
[01:59:53.220 --> 02:00:03.220] Mr. Pista, tell me, who do you think you are?