ROL_2009-02-26_16k.timecode

[00:00.000 --> 00:10.400]  In Somalia, Islamist rebels battled African Union peacekeepers and police Wednesday, bringing
[00:10.400 --> 00:12.480]  the death toll to 81.
[00:12.480 --> 00:19.460]  A local human rights group said 48 civilians had been killed and 90 wounded since Tuesday.
[00:19.460 --> 00:24.860]  In Bangladesh Thursday, a mutiny by thousands of border security forces spread to areas
[00:24.860 --> 00:27.560]  outside the capital, Dakar.
[00:27.560 --> 00:30.800]  People say nearly 50 army officers were believed killed.
[00:30.800 --> 00:35.840]  The spread of violence came despite the offer of amnesty for renegade troops protesting
[00:35.840 --> 00:39.080]  low pay and poor working conditions.
[00:39.080 --> 00:45.800]  U.S. and Mexican authorities have arrested 750 people over 21 months in an anti-drug
[00:45.800 --> 00:56.200]  sweep, including 52 members of Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel.
[00:56.200 --> 01:00.080]  Information Clearinghouse reports Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is putting the
[01:00.080 --> 01:07.280]  final touches to a plan to dump $1 trillion of toxic assets onto the U.S. taxpayer.
[01:07.280 --> 01:12.920]  The plan, called the Public Private Investment Fund, is designed to provide lavish incentives
[01:12.920 --> 01:18.760]  to hedge funds and private equity firms to purchase bad assets from failing banks.
[01:18.760 --> 01:24.240]  It provides government financing and guarantees for illiquid mortgage-backed junk.
[01:24.240 --> 01:28.760]  Journalist Mike Whitney suggests Geithner is worried the public will see through the
[01:28.760 --> 01:31.760]  boondoggle and the markets will tank.
[01:31.760 --> 01:37.440]  The PPIF will work with the Fed's new lending facility, the term Asset-Backed Securities
[01:37.440 --> 01:40.000]  Loan Facility, or TALF.
[01:40.000 --> 01:45.880]  In March, up to $1 trillion of financing for buyers of new securities backed by credit
[01:45.880 --> 01:50.480]  card, auto and small business loans will be given out.
[01:50.480 --> 01:55.280]  Geithner's Financial Rescue Partnership will focus on cleaning up banks' balance sheets
[01:55.280 --> 01:58.360]  by purging mortgage-backed securities.
[01:58.360 --> 02:02.680]  Geithner's main objective is to keep the banks in private hands, regardless of the
[02:02.680 --> 02:08.560]  cost to the taxpayer.
[02:08.560 --> 02:13.640]  The House Financial Services Committee, headed by Representative Barney Frank, met Wednesday
[02:13.640 --> 02:19.720]  to hear the testimony of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Congressman Ron Paul, who favors
[02:19.720 --> 02:24.960]  dismantling the privately owned Federal Reserve System, disagreed with the Fed's program for
[02:24.960 --> 02:26.760]  the struggling economy.
[02:26.760 --> 02:31.800]  Paul branded the financial system a failure and laid out the reasons why Bernanke's plan
[02:31.800 --> 02:33.960]  would not save the economy.
[02:33.960 --> 02:38.480]  Paul said, quote, if we think we can patch up a system that has failed, it's not going
[02:38.480 --> 02:39.760]  to work.
[02:39.760 --> 02:45.000]  Paul explained, quote, capital can't come from the thin air creation by a Federal Reserve
[02:45.000 --> 02:46.000]  System.
[02:46.000 --> 02:48.360]  Capital has to come from savings.
[02:48.360 --> 02:53.800]  This whole idea that we can recapitalize markets by merely turning on the printing presses
[02:53.800 --> 03:22.360]  and increasing credit is a total fallacy.
[03:22.360 --> 03:26.680]  Dr. Albrecht has a Ph.D. from Harvard in education and has been one of the leading voices for
[03:26.680 --> 03:31.000]  consumer privacy and has worked tirelessly by educating people on the emergence of a
[03:31.000 --> 03:34.120]  total surveillance control grid being set up all around us.
[03:34.120 --> 03:38.160]  Please come out and show your support as Dr. Albrecht tours Central Texas on a mission
[03:38.160 --> 03:41.880]  to testify against the mandatory microchipping of all pets in San Marcos.
[03:41.880 --> 03:47.160]  But before she visits San Marcos, Dr. Albrecht will hold a one-time only talk and book signing
[03:47.160 --> 03:49.920]  at Brave New Books on March 2nd at 7 p.m.
[03:49.920 --> 03:54.120]  This will be a popular event, so seating will be limited, so please come to the bookstore
[03:54.120 --> 03:55.120]  early.
[03:55.120 --> 04:00.520]  If you have any questions, please call the bookstore at 512-480-2503 and be sure to go
[04:00.520 --> 04:04.360]  to bravenewbookstore.com for updates on many events coming up.
[04:04.360 --> 04:05.360]  Thank you.
[04:05.360 --> 04:34.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna
[04:34.240 --> 05:01.520]  do, whatcha gonna do, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do,
[05:01.520 --> 05:26.020]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[05:26.020 --> 05:31.180]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[06:01.180 --> 06:05.180]  What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[06:05.180 --> 06:32.180]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[06:32.180 --> 06:38.180]  Why did you have to ask the moon? Don't you know you're a human being?
[06:38.180 --> 06:43.180]  Born of a mother with a lover so far The reflection comes and the reflection goes
[06:43.180 --> 06:54.180]  I know sometimes you wanna let go Hey, hey, hey, I know sometimes you wanna let go
[06:54.180 --> 07:03.180]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
[07:03.180 --> 07:28.180]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[07:33.180 --> 07:37.180]  To talk about her work and upcoming events.
[07:37.180 --> 07:48.180]  In the meantime, Randy is going to explain to us just what exactly he's going to do to the DPS office.
[07:48.180 --> 07:58.180]  Texas DPS for arresting him and throwing him in jail with no charge whatsoever at the Secretary of State's office.
[07:58.180 --> 08:00.180]  So what is that all about?
[08:00.180 --> 08:09.180]  Oh, well, I was getting tired and I needed a little rest, so I took a room at the local hotel.
[08:09.180 --> 08:13.180]  But the room service was terrible.
[08:13.180 --> 08:18.180]  Actually, I went down to the Secretary of State's building to get an apostille.
[08:18.180 --> 08:23.180]  And they didn't want to give me one, so I called the police to take a statement
[08:23.180 --> 08:31.180]  and get a statement from them to memorialize both, and they wound up arresting me.
[08:31.180 --> 08:39.180]  And threw me in jail, spent 24 hours in jail, but the arrest was so outrageous and bogus
[08:39.180 --> 08:44.180]  that the officer refused to file a criminal complaint.
[08:44.180 --> 08:52.180]  And after 24 hours, they released me with no charges filed.
[08:52.180 --> 08:59.180]  Apparently, they had never listened to our show or they would have done something totally different.
[08:59.180 --> 09:01.180]  I don't know where it's been, probably not arrested me,
[09:01.180 --> 09:09.180]  but I'm in the process of putting together a lawsuit that for me is going to be perfect
[09:09.180 --> 09:20.180]  because it's in the seat of government and the officers involved are the Capitol Police.
[09:20.180 --> 09:26.180]  They tend to be the elite, the best of the best they bring down to the Capitol
[09:26.180 --> 09:31.180]  to exhibit in front of all the legislators and lawmakers.
[09:31.180 --> 09:34.180]  So I get to take them on.
[09:34.180 --> 09:43.180]  If these guys are the best of the best, DPS has a real problem.
[09:43.180 --> 09:53.180]  And I will treat the DPS here as if they are the stepfather to all other policing organizations in the state
[09:53.180 --> 09:57.180]  because they set the standard.
[09:57.180 --> 10:01.180]  They're the police department of statewide jurisdiction,
[10:01.180 --> 10:07.180]  and they will set the standards for the other jurisdictions.
[10:07.180 --> 10:10.180]  Those who listen have probably heard the story.
[10:10.180 --> 10:13.180]  I won't go through all the details.
[10:13.180 --> 10:18.180]  But the day before yesterday, I called down to the DPS,
[10:18.180 --> 10:26.180]  and I had already the day before that called and talked to a Major Madden
[10:26.180 --> 10:33.180]  and worked him over for about 30 minutes before he told me that he couldn't help me
[10:33.180 --> 10:42.180]  because the Sergeant McNeil, the one who put his hands on me, didn't work for him.
[10:42.180 --> 10:45.180]  He worked for another department.
[10:45.180 --> 10:48.180]  But I already knew that.
[10:48.180 --> 10:57.180]  So the reason I did it to Major Madden was so that Major Madden would talk to this sergeant's major
[10:57.180 --> 11:00.180]  and relay my story to the major.
[11:00.180 --> 11:09.180]  He would be embarrassed from getting this story about one of his troops from one of the major's peers.
[11:09.180 --> 11:15.180]  So I would expect that the major would be real unhappy about that.
[11:15.180 --> 11:22.180]  And I suspect he was because I called down and all of the captains were out of town.
[11:22.180 --> 11:27.180]  And so I asked for the lieutenant over this sergeant,
[11:27.180 --> 11:32.180]  and I got a lieutenant hammered or something like that.
[11:32.180 --> 11:35.180]  And I told him that I went down to the State Department to get a nap of steel
[11:35.180 --> 11:40.180]  and call the DPS because I wanted some really professional police officers.
[11:40.180 --> 11:46.180]  And they kind of started jerking me around.
[11:46.180 --> 11:52.180]  Then someone sent Sergeant McNeil down there to supervise his troops
[11:52.180 --> 11:58.180]  and show them how to deal with someone who refuses to answer their questions
[11:58.180 --> 12:03.180]  by beating the hell out of him and throwing him in jail.
[12:03.180 --> 12:09.180]  Lieutenant Hammond, did you send him down there to do that?
[12:09.180 --> 12:15.180]  And Lieutenant Hammond was already a little annoyed, I suppose, because he said,
[12:15.180 --> 12:24.180]  well, I suppose I did. Well, thank you very much.
[12:24.180 --> 12:29.180]  I'm finished with you. Good day. Click.
[12:29.180 --> 12:36.180]  I almost couldn't believe he was dumb enough to say that.
[12:36.180 --> 12:48.180]  So now I have on tape admission that he sent the sergeant down there to beat the crap out of me.
[12:48.180 --> 12:51.180]  These guys are really boneheads.
[12:51.180 --> 12:55.180]  I don't want to go too deep. We do have our guest up, Tim Turner.
[12:55.180 --> 12:59.180]  A lot of you out there may already be familiar with Tim Turner.
[12:59.180 --> 13:04.180]  For those of you who are not, he's a hillbilly.
[13:04.180 --> 13:08.180]  But I'm not going to hold that against him.
[13:08.180 --> 13:17.180]  Tim Turner is on a par with Michael Bider in that he is very knowledgeable
[13:17.180 --> 13:26.180]  about the common law and uniform commercial code and applications of it.
[13:26.180 --> 13:30.180]  Tim, are you there? Yes, I'm here. How are you today, Randy?
[13:30.180 --> 13:35.180]  I'm doing pretty good. Not in jail. Could be worse.
[13:35.180 --> 13:40.180]  It could be. Could be. Could be better, too, but could be worse.
[13:40.180 --> 13:46.180]  So I understand you were just recently doing a seminar in California?
[13:46.180 --> 13:49.180]  Well, actually, we're in California now.
[13:49.180 --> 13:59.180]  We were in Arizona, down there near Phoenix, did a little seminar just last weekend.
[13:59.180 --> 14:07.180]  And this weekend we'll be in Mill Valley, California for three days, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.
[14:07.180 --> 14:14.180]  Will you kind of give us a brief overview of what it is you do and what it is you teach,
[14:14.180 --> 14:17.180]  or at least what you're teaching in these seminars?
[14:17.180 --> 14:28.180]  Sure. We teach the commercial process about how people have been made into slaves
[14:28.180 --> 14:33.180]  by contracts they've signed over the years and laws that have been passed.
[14:33.180 --> 14:37.180]  And we teach people how to become a secured party creditor
[14:37.180 --> 14:42.180]  and operate in commerce the way it was intended for them to operate.
[14:42.180 --> 14:46.180]  Many people don't understand, and I can absolutely prove this,
[14:46.180 --> 14:52.180]  have testified to this in federal court, actually, on a number of occasions
[14:52.180 --> 14:55.180]  and have successfully won many times.
[14:55.180 --> 15:05.180]  And most people don't realize that because of the laws that were passed in 1933 through 1938
[15:05.180 --> 15:10.180]  in our nation, that all of the property, including your personal property, your home,
[15:10.180 --> 15:14.180]  all of your labor, your birth certificate, everything has been leased
[15:14.180 --> 15:17.180]  for the national debt of the United States corporation.
[15:17.180 --> 15:23.180]  Well, as a result of that, Congress had to create a series of remedies,
[15:23.180 --> 15:27.180]  or a remedy for a series of laws for the people.
[15:27.180 --> 15:33.180]  And the remedy is if we present to the Department of the Treasury,
[15:33.180 --> 15:40.180]  the United States Department of the Treasury, any bill that we have or any debt that we have,
[15:40.180 --> 15:46.180]  they're required by law to discharge that debt for us because they've used our property
[15:46.180 --> 15:48.180]  as collateral for the debt.
[15:48.180 --> 15:50.180]  It's actually written in the law and read it to you.
[15:50.180 --> 15:56.180]  But most people never heard of that, and they think that we're a bunch of nutcases sometimes.
[15:56.180 --> 16:02.180]  But the fact is that I teach the people, and I actually show them the law,
[16:02.180 --> 16:06.180]  and I actually bring them up to speed on how to operate in commerce.
[16:06.180 --> 16:15.180]  Every debt that everyone has in this nation, if they're an American, it is already paid for.
[16:15.180 --> 16:21.180]  It is prepaid, and we're out here losing our homes to foreclosures for debts
[16:21.180 --> 16:25.180]  that have already been satisfied, and the people don't even know it.
[16:25.180 --> 16:28.180]  It's the biggest fraud that is going on in America right now,
[16:28.180 --> 16:31.180]  it's the foreclosure scandal that's going on right now.
[16:31.180 --> 16:39.180]  And we have a method that we teach to beat foreclosures.
[16:39.180 --> 16:40.180]  Wonderful.
[16:40.180 --> 16:45.180]  I would like to, when we come back from break, kind of go into as much detail
[16:45.180 --> 16:48.180]  as you can in this next hour.
[16:48.180 --> 16:49.180]  Sure.
[16:49.180 --> 16:50.180]  I'd like to keep you on for more,
[16:50.180 --> 16:54.180]  and I definitely want to bring you back for one of our four-hour shows.
[16:54.180 --> 16:55.180]  Sure.
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[18:04.180 --> 18:32.180]  Music
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[18:45.180 --> 18:50.180]  All right, we've got Tim Turner with us.
[18:50.180 --> 18:51.180]  Hello.
[18:51.180 --> 18:54.180]  Sam, please continue.
[18:54.180 --> 18:58.180]  Okay, during the break we were talking about your experience with some of your,
[18:58.180 --> 19:04.180]  your personal experience with foreclosures. Can you kind of give us a brief on that?
[19:04.180 --> 19:08.180]  Sure. Well, foreclosures are almost always fraudulent.
[19:08.180 --> 19:16.180]  And we, and through studying the law we realized that every foreclosure,
[19:16.180 --> 19:21.180]  when a claim is brought for foreclosure by a bank or mortgage company,
[19:21.180 --> 19:27.180]  that according to the rules, federal rules of civil procedure as well as any other federal laws,
[19:27.180 --> 19:34.180]  that they are absolutely required to provide proof of claim by bringing forth
[19:34.180 --> 19:41.180]  the original mortgage note for your inspection to prove that they have a legitimate claim.
[19:41.180 --> 19:47.180]  The problem with that is that almost no banks have a legitimate note.
[19:47.180 --> 19:51.180]  All they have is a copy because they have sold the note.
[19:51.180 --> 19:56.180]  And most people don't realize that when you go sign a promissory note for a bank,
[19:56.180 --> 20:03.180]  they actually route that through the United States Treasury under your Social Security number
[20:03.180 --> 20:09.180]  and the bank gets a direct deposit from the Treasury called a Fedwire,
[20:09.180 --> 20:14.180]  usually within three days of the time you sign that note, and that is paid in full.
[20:14.180 --> 20:19.180]  And then the bank sells the note again as a rule.
[20:19.180 --> 20:23.180]  And they get paid again, and you have already paid the debt twice,
[20:23.180 --> 20:26.180]  and they foreclose in your house.
[20:26.180 --> 20:35.180]  And many of these banks sell these notes as many as 30 times fraudulently and get paid for these.
[20:35.180 --> 20:40.180]  And the CEOs transfer the money to offshore accounts.
[20:40.180 --> 20:46.180]  And when it gets caught up with this, that's what happened to our banking scandal here a couple years ago,
[20:46.180 --> 20:51.180]  is the countries that were buying these fraudulent securities figured out what was going on and demanded payment.
[20:51.180 --> 20:55.180]  The banks couldn't make the payment because the banks never had the money.
[20:55.180 --> 20:57.180]  The CEOs were stealing the money.
[20:57.180 --> 21:02.180]  And the books always balance because it appeared to be a legitimate transaction
[21:02.180 --> 21:06.180]  because they were not putting all this other money on the books.
[21:06.180 --> 21:11.180]  So it's one of the biggest scams on the people of America.
[21:11.180 --> 21:15.180]  And almost every single foreclosure is fraudulent.
[21:15.180 --> 21:17.180]  There are very few exceptions.
[21:17.180 --> 21:24.180]  I've seen one real note in all the foreclosures that I've dealt with, and that's been a lot of them.
[21:24.180 --> 21:26.180]  But we win these.
[21:26.180 --> 21:27.180]  We win these.
[21:27.180 --> 21:28.180]  Absolutely.
[21:28.180 --> 21:33.180]  The case that I was dealing with personally down here in Alabama,
[21:33.180 --> 21:39.180]  we won the case, and now we are collecting on $20 billion in damages.
[21:39.180 --> 21:44.180]  And we actually filed criminal charges against the judge and 12 attorneys,
[21:44.180 --> 21:49.180]  one of them, several attorneys, are one of the top law firms in the state of Alabama.
[21:49.180 --> 21:53.180]  And it was a struggle.
[21:53.180 --> 21:57.180]  It took me a year to win, but I did.
[21:57.180 --> 22:00.180]  Is this the one with the radio station?
[22:00.180 --> 22:04.180]  Yes, that's the one where we took our radio station.
[22:04.180 --> 22:06.180]  They never proved the claim.
[22:06.180 --> 22:08.180]  They didn't ever try to prove the claim.
[22:08.180 --> 22:14.180]  He was fraudulently allowed the custody to sell, even though he testified in federal court under oath
[22:14.180 --> 22:21.180]  that he had never had a proof of claim for the sale of the station, and he sold it.
[22:21.180 --> 22:26.180]  And so he's going to have to forfeit the $3 million bond that he put up for the bankruptcy court.
[22:26.180 --> 22:28.180]  That's one of the bonds.
[22:28.180 --> 22:34.180]  But we were dealing with more than a dozen bonds here, probably in the neighborhood of 15 to 20.
[22:34.180 --> 22:40.180]  I don't know exactly. We've got a private investigator firm right now that is investigating into it.
[22:40.180 --> 22:47.180]  And we hired them just a couple of weeks ago to just find the information so I could file the claims.
[22:47.180 --> 22:51.180]  And when they got investigating into it, they called us back and said,
[22:51.180 --> 22:57.180]  listen, this is a huge claim and a lot of assets to collect, and these guys are in real serious trouble.
[22:57.180 --> 23:03.180]  And we want to know if you'll just pay us a small percentage of this collected for you.
[23:03.180 --> 23:07.180]  And so we said, well, make us a proposal, and I'm waiting on that proposal now.
[23:07.180 --> 23:09.180]  It should get it any day.
[23:09.180 --> 23:14.180]  And we'll move on to collect on their bonds.
[23:14.180 --> 23:16.180]  So what is the nature of these bonds?
[23:16.180 --> 23:23.180]  Are these bonds that they had to put up or are these bonds they had to hold as an attorney?
[23:23.180 --> 23:24.180]  Well, both.
[23:24.180 --> 23:32.180]  We've mained their barcard bonds as well as their public hazard or performance bonds in case of their dishonor in public.
[23:32.180 --> 23:34.180]  They have both.
[23:34.180 --> 23:42.180]  Another thing we did is we mained the...
[23:42.180 --> 23:45.180]  Did we lose him?
[23:45.180 --> 23:46.180]  Hello?
[23:46.180 --> 23:48.180]  Oh, good. Good, you're back. We thought we'd lost you.
[23:48.180 --> 23:54.180]  Yeah. I'm on the cell and I'm traveling, so if I lose you, I'll call you back, okay?
[23:54.180 --> 23:57.180]  Okay.
[23:57.180 --> 24:00.180]  Sometimes in these mountains we do.
[24:00.180 --> 24:01.180]  Can you hear me?
[24:01.180 --> 24:03.180]  Yes, I can hear you.
[24:03.180 --> 24:04.180]  Okay.
[24:04.180 --> 24:13.180]  Well, the bonds are held by insurance companies as well as we've got their international barcard,
[24:13.180 --> 24:22.180]  and they're trying to link their state barcard as well as their public hazard bonds for the law firms.
[24:22.180 --> 24:31.180]  And we're leaning the EIN numbers of all the law firms as well as the court.
[24:31.180 --> 24:39.180]  And the reason that was important to lean the court is because it will drop their credit rating by about 25%,
[24:39.180 --> 24:43.180]  and that means they will have to discount all these bonds that they're selling,
[24:43.180 --> 24:51.180]  and they estimate that they'll lose on every bundle they sell about $2.5 million is what we estimate they'll lose.
[24:51.180 --> 24:54.180]  And they sell several of those a week in that court.
[24:54.180 --> 24:59.180]  So it's going to really bring some difficulty to these lawyers.
[24:59.180 --> 25:04.180]  They've already said in court that they were tied up where they couldn't buy anything.
[25:04.180 --> 25:08.180]  I mean, they can't buy homes or cars right now.
[25:08.180 --> 25:13.180]  The next phase, after we get the bonds, we will lock down all of their finances, credit, and everything.
[25:13.180 --> 25:15.180]  They won't be able to buy ourselves.
[25:15.180 --> 25:19.180]  They won't be able to buy us when we're finished.
[25:19.180 --> 25:22.180]  Wonderful.
[25:22.180 --> 25:32.180]  I mean, I hate to cause somebody some terrible difficulty, but if you earned it, you earned it.
[25:32.180 --> 25:48.180]  So how difficult is it for the ordinary individual to position himself so that he can protect himself the way you have?
[25:48.180 --> 25:51.180]  Are you there, Tim?
[25:51.180 --> 25:54.180]  Okay, I think we may have lost him.
[25:54.180 --> 26:07.180]  But actually, after all of this time of doing this show, I've finally filed a UCC, and I've used Tim's method to do it.
[26:07.180 --> 26:14.180]  And we're working on setting up a treasury account, apparently.
[26:14.180 --> 26:18.180]  I'm not very good at explaining this because it's not my area.
[26:18.180 --> 26:25.180]  But apparently, everyone has a treasury account set up based on their birth certificate.
[26:25.180 --> 26:36.180]  And I have been one of those who has raised a lot of issues about this birth certificate and the supposed treasury account that was set up by it.
[26:36.180 --> 26:45.180]  But it turns out it may actually be true, and Tim was clearly on to how to use it.
[26:45.180 --> 26:48.180]  Tim, do we have you back?
[26:48.180 --> 26:50.180]  No, I guess he's gone altogether.
[26:50.180 --> 26:52.180]  So he may call back in.
[26:52.180 --> 26:54.180]  We do have a caller.
[26:54.180 --> 27:02.180]  I'd like to go to Travis in Minnesota while we're waiting for Tim to call back in.
[27:02.180 --> 27:04.180]  Travis, are you there?
[27:04.180 --> 27:06.180]  Yes, I am.
[27:06.180 --> 27:07.180]  How are you?
[27:07.180 --> 27:08.180]  I'm doing pretty good.
[27:08.180 --> 27:10.180]  Do you have a question or a comment?
[27:10.180 --> 27:13.180]  Yes, I do.
[27:13.180 --> 27:19.180]  It might be kind of detailed.
[27:19.180 --> 27:29.180]  So I don't know if we have, you know, how long we have, but maybe I'll just start off piece by piece.
[27:29.180 --> 27:43.180]  I'm going to be going before a judge in not too long who had me plead to a or allowed me to plead to a charge
[27:43.180 --> 27:54.180]  and pointed out to me that one of the key elements was missing, so I really couldn't plead to it and went ahead and let me plead to it anyways.
[27:54.180 --> 28:02.180]  The dismissed charges, there was no evidence because they were fraudulent.
[28:02.180 --> 28:07.180]  It had to do with an ex-girlfriend and we were in disagreement at the time.
[28:07.180 --> 28:09.180]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[28:09.180 --> 28:12.180]  You're kind of being cryptic here.
[28:12.180 --> 28:13.180]  Okay.
[28:13.180 --> 28:24.180]  Basically, I'm going before him on a DWI charge related matter.
[28:24.180 --> 28:30.180]  He's going to decide whether I violated a condition or not.
[28:30.180 --> 28:32.180]  A condition of what?
[28:32.180 --> 28:36.180]  For me to go to an anger management class.
[28:36.180 --> 28:46.180]  Okay, so he's saying that the DUI case is affecting some other case.
[28:46.180 --> 29:00.180]  Yeah, but basically she's been text messaging me on my phone for two months, very cordial messages, about six or seven.
[29:00.180 --> 29:04.180]  I have them all still on my phone.
[29:04.180 --> 29:11.180]  I didn't want to get her in trouble before, so I didn't say anything bad about her through the whole experience,
[29:11.180 --> 29:18.180]  even though it wasn't mutual at the time, but I guess now she's ready to talk.
[29:18.180 --> 29:20.180]  Wait a minute, you're not making sense.
[29:20.180 --> 29:22.180]  About the case.
[29:22.180 --> 29:27.180]  Now I'm probably maybe in a slightly different position.
[29:27.180 --> 29:31.180]  At any rate, I called the police and told them that...
[29:31.180 --> 29:34.180]  Okay, hold on, hold on, we're about to go to break.
[29:34.180 --> 29:35.180]  Okay.
[29:35.180 --> 29:36.180]  Hold that thought.
[29:36.180 --> 29:41.180]  We'll be back on the other side and we'll pick up where we left off.
[29:41.180 --> 29:45.180]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, the rule of law.
[29:45.180 --> 29:46.180]  We'll be right back.
[29:46.180 --> 29:59.180]  Yes, please hold Travis, we'll be right back.
[29:59.180 --> 30:04.180]  Gold prices are at historic highs, and with the recent pullback, this is a great time to buy.
[30:04.180 --> 30:08.180]  With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties,
[30:08.180 --> 30:12.180]  and instability in rural financial systems, I see gold going up much higher.
[30:12.180 --> 30:15.180]  Hi, I'm Tim Fry at Roberts and Roberts Brokerage.
[30:15.180 --> 30:19.180]  Everybody should have some of their assets in investment grade precious metals.
[30:19.180 --> 30:23.180]  At Roberts and Roberts Brokerage, you can buy gold, silver, and platinum with confidence
[30:23.180 --> 30:28.180]  from a brokerage that specialized in the precious metals market since 1977.
[30:28.180 --> 30:32.180]  If you are new to precious metals, we will happily provide you with the information
[30:32.180 --> 30:36.180]  you need to make an informed decision whether or not you choose to purchase from us.
[30:36.180 --> 30:41.180]  Also, Roberts and Roberts Brokerage values your privacy and will always advise you
[30:41.180 --> 30:44.180]  in the event that we would be required to report any transaction.
[30:44.180 --> 30:47.180]  If you have gold, silver, or platinum you'd like to sell,
[30:47.180 --> 30:49.180]  we can convert it for immediate payment.
[30:49.180 --> 30:53.180]  Call us at 800-874-9760.
[30:53.180 --> 30:59.180]  We're at Roberts and Roberts Brokerage, 800-874-9760.
[31:23.180 --> 31:25.180]  Thank you very much.
[31:53.180 --> 31:55.180]  Thank you very much.
[32:23.180 --> 32:38.180]  Okay, Randy.
[32:38.180 --> 32:39.180]  Okay, we're back up.
[32:39.180 --> 32:42.180]  We're back up. Why don't you...
[32:42.180 --> 32:43.180]  Let me...
[32:43.180 --> 32:44.180]  Yeah.
[32:44.180 --> 32:48.180]  Travis, hang on a minute. Our guest is back up.
[32:48.180 --> 32:49.180]  Okay.
[32:49.180 --> 32:54.180]  Let's work with him and we'll take you when we get done with Tim.
[32:54.180 --> 32:55.180]  He's in the mountains.
[32:55.180 --> 33:01.180]  We may lose him again, but we want to take advantage of him all we can.
[33:01.180 --> 33:03.180]  Hey, Randy.
[33:03.180 --> 33:04.180]  Tim, are you there?
[33:04.180 --> 33:05.180]  Yes, I'm here, Randy.
[33:05.180 --> 33:06.180]  Oh, good.
[33:06.180 --> 33:07.180]  Sorry about the delay.
[33:07.180 --> 33:11.180]  We got going through a mountain pass and lost our cell phone signal,
[33:11.180 --> 33:14.180]  but we found a place to pull over where we could talk.
[33:14.180 --> 33:16.180]  Good, good.
[33:16.180 --> 33:22.180]  Okay, can you kind of give us a brief on your seminars,
[33:22.180 --> 33:26.180]  on what you present and what people can expect from them?
[33:26.180 --> 33:30.180]  What we teach people to do is instead of being a debtor to the system
[33:30.180 --> 33:33.180]  of the United States corporation,
[33:33.180 --> 33:36.180]  we teach them how to become secured party creditors,
[33:36.180 --> 33:40.180]  which means that their debts are discharged when they do the process
[33:40.180 --> 33:43.180]  that we teach about the bonds and the notes.
[33:43.180 --> 33:47.180]  And we teach the law on this, we actually give them an affidavit in law
[33:47.180 --> 33:50.180]  that shows them why we can do this and actually can prove it,
[33:50.180 --> 33:55.180]  including Supreme Court decisions, congressional hearings,
[33:55.180 --> 34:01.180]  and different things, excerpts from all those are in here in this 13-page brief.
[34:01.180 --> 34:05.180]  And so people will understand that we're not just talking of stuff
[34:05.180 --> 34:07.180]  that we don't understand and we don't know.
[34:07.180 --> 34:11.180]  We can prove and have proved it in the federal court.
[34:11.180 --> 34:13.180]  What we do is we take them through this process
[34:13.180 --> 34:16.180]  and teach them step-by-step how to do the process.
[34:16.180 --> 34:20.180]  First I tell them what happened and how it happened and explain the background.
[34:20.180 --> 34:21.180]  That's on day one.
[34:21.180 --> 34:24.180]  The second day we take them through the documentation
[34:24.180 --> 34:27.180]  and explain the documents to them and show them how to fill out the documents.
[34:27.180 --> 34:30.180]  And on the third day I teach them the enforcement tools,
[34:30.180 --> 34:34.180]  which is our negative avertment, all of the notices, the nil de set,
[34:34.180 --> 34:36.180]  which is a notice of final judgment,
[34:36.180 --> 34:41.180]  and the collection filing UCC-1 liens and the maritime lien
[34:41.180 --> 34:44.180]  and the collection procedures on all of these bonds.
[34:44.180 --> 34:46.180]  That's what we're doing.
[34:46.180 --> 34:49.180]  Yes, and our listeners, the ones who listen all the time,
[34:49.180 --> 34:56.180]  will recognize that Wendy from Tennessee talked about negative avertments
[34:56.180 --> 34:58.180]  and filing UCC liens.
[34:58.180 --> 35:01.180]  I think you're familiar with Wendy from Tennessee, aren't you, Tim?
[35:01.180 --> 35:06.180]  Yes, Wendy was the first lady I got to perfect one of these liens
[35:06.180 --> 35:09.180]  and talked to her about two weeks ago,
[35:09.180 --> 35:11.180]  and she went to the hearing and no one showed up.
[35:11.180 --> 35:15.180]  The judge didn't come. The attorneys didn't come.
[35:15.180 --> 35:19.180]  And they sat there a while, and finally the district attorney came in
[35:19.180 --> 35:22.180]  and said that they had canceled the hearing.
[35:22.180 --> 35:27.180]  And he said, I need for you to release this lien,
[35:27.180 --> 35:31.180]  because I'm having a house built and now I can't get the financing
[35:31.180 --> 35:34.180]  because of the lien that you placed on me.
[35:34.180 --> 35:41.180]  And she looked at him and she said, well, I guess things are tough all over.
[35:41.180 --> 35:45.180]  She's got 54 attorneys and judges tied up,
[35:45.180 --> 35:52.180]  including the attorney general of the state tied up in this case.
[35:52.180 --> 35:55.180]  And they dismissed all the charges against her,
[35:55.180 --> 35:58.180]  but that doesn't negate the lien.
[35:58.180 --> 36:01.180]  The lien, they only had 14 days to answer.
[36:01.180 --> 36:05.180]  They failed to answer their default and the lien stands.
[36:05.180 --> 36:09.180]  Now, these liens are very powerful and not something to be toyed with.
[36:09.180 --> 36:12.180]  A person really needs to have a legitimate claim.
[36:12.180 --> 36:16.180]  But if you're in a foreclosure, you have a legitimate claim.
[36:16.180 --> 36:21.180]  And I teach people how to take this into Chapter 11 bankruptcy court
[36:21.180 --> 36:26.180]  and win a foreclosure hearing on the merits of the law.
[36:26.180 --> 36:29.180]  And it's impossible for the courts to win.
[36:29.180 --> 36:31.180]  They cannot win with this process that we do,
[36:31.180 --> 36:36.180]  because they're going to violate the law because they're operating the fraud we proved.
[36:36.180 --> 36:40.180]  And once this lien is filed and perfected in 14 days, they're done.
[36:40.180 --> 36:43.180]  There is nothing they can do.
[36:43.180 --> 36:51.180]  This process was looked at by the attorney general's office in Alabama.
[36:51.180 --> 36:55.180]  And I also had a federal judge review it.
[36:55.180 --> 36:58.180]  And the federal judge went through the whole process.
[36:58.180 --> 36:59.180]  He came to see me.
[36:59.180 --> 37:01.180]  He wanted to see the process.
[37:01.180 --> 37:04.180]  And I showed it to him and he went through the whole process and read it.
[37:04.180 --> 37:09.180]  And when he got finished, he looked up at me and he said, checkmate.
[37:09.180 --> 37:12.180]  He said, they can't beat this.
[37:12.180 --> 37:18.180]  It was absolutely impossible for them to win if you do this process like you teach me.
[37:18.180 --> 37:21.180]  Now, how do you – that brings up an issue,
[37:21.180 --> 37:25.180]  because I have people coming to me all the time saying that they filed this
[37:25.180 --> 37:29.180]  and they filed that and the judge just ignored it.
[37:29.180 --> 37:30.180]  Well, we don't care.
[37:30.180 --> 37:32.180]  That's the beauty of this.
[37:32.180 --> 37:35.180]  If the judge ignores this, he loses.
[37:35.180 --> 37:40.180]  And if he doesn't answer it by the proper method, he loses.
[37:40.180 --> 37:42.180]  He can't win. It's impossible for them to win.
[37:42.180 --> 37:47.180]  In this method, do you have a way to hold the judge's feet to the fire?
[37:47.180 --> 37:50.180]  Absolutely. Oh, absolutely.
[37:50.180 --> 37:51.180]  I put the judges on the claims.
[37:51.180 --> 37:55.180]  In fact, the meanest federal judge in Alabama,
[37:55.180 --> 37:59.180]  they sent me a letter and said they were going to put the meanest federal judge in Alabama on my case.
[37:59.180 --> 38:01.180]  So I sent him a letter.
[38:01.180 --> 38:05.180]  And he was familiar with the negative vermin claim already.
[38:05.180 --> 38:07.180]  So I sent him a letter and it said this.
[38:07.180 --> 38:11.180]  I said, I understand that you're going to involve yourself in this case.
[38:11.180 --> 38:14.180]  If you do, I'm going to make you a party to the claim.
[38:14.180 --> 38:17.180]  So come on down.
[38:17.180 --> 38:18.180]  And he declined.
[38:18.180 --> 38:20.180]  He decided not to attend the hearing.
[38:20.180 --> 38:27.180]  And they made the other judge that wanted to recuse himself stay on the case.
[38:27.180 --> 38:28.180]  And he's in trouble.
[38:28.180 --> 38:33.180]  I have actually had criminal charges filed against him now with the Department of Justice.
[38:33.180 --> 38:36.180]  And we'll see where that goes, but he's in real trouble.
[38:36.180 --> 38:41.180]  You're talking the federal U.S. Department of Justice?
[38:41.180 --> 38:42.180]  Yes.
[38:42.180 --> 38:48.180]  Good. Have you filed that with a U.S. attorney?
[38:48.180 --> 38:50.180]  Yes.
[38:50.180 --> 38:57.180]  Did you request that the U.S. attorney give the complaint to the grand jury?
[38:57.180 --> 39:00.180]  I requested an audience with the grand jury myself.
[39:00.180 --> 39:02.180]  Wonderful.
[39:02.180 --> 39:06.180]  In fact, I didn't request. I demanded a hearing.
[39:06.180 --> 39:10.180]  I told him I was going to have a hearing is what I told him.
[39:10.180 --> 39:15.180]  What he will claim is that if you spoke to the grand jury,
[39:15.180 --> 39:18.180]  it would be tampering with the grand jury.
[39:18.180 --> 39:21.180]  Well, I told him I wanted to present the case.
[39:21.180 --> 39:26.180]  I am an attorney and I do have the right to stand before that grand jury.
[39:26.180 --> 39:34.180]  Well, what he's going to say is he's the only one that has the right.
[39:34.180 --> 39:37.180]  Well, that's fine. It's fine that he needs to do his job.
[39:37.180 --> 39:40.180]  What they're doing is twisting the law.
[39:40.180 --> 39:41.180]  Right.
[39:41.180 --> 39:48.180]  He is the only one who has the statutory right to present to the grand jury.
[39:48.180 --> 39:56.180]  And he presents that as if he has exclusive right to present to the grand jury,
[39:56.180 --> 39:58.180]  and that's not true.
[39:58.180 --> 39:59.180]  No, it's not true.
[39:59.180 --> 40:01.180]  He has a right as a matter of law,
[40:01.180 --> 40:05.180]  but if the grand jury asks you to present to them,
[40:05.180 --> 40:08.180]  you can present to them just as well as he can.
[40:08.180 --> 40:12.180]  You just can't force your way into the grand jury the way he can.
[40:12.180 --> 40:16.180]  Right. Well, I demanded that this go before the grand jury.
[40:16.180 --> 40:18.180]  I absolutely did not tell them.
[40:18.180 --> 40:19.180]  I wasn't asking.
[40:19.180 --> 40:22.180]  This was a demand and I was going to get it there somehow.
[40:22.180 --> 40:25.180]  And, you know, I'm not playing with these guys.
[40:25.180 --> 40:26.180]  They're committing fraud.
[40:26.180 --> 40:28.180]  They're causing harm to people.
[40:28.180 --> 40:30.180]  And we'll take them as far as they want to go.
[40:30.180 --> 40:34.180]  The thing I told them, I said, I'm going to take you further than you want to go.
[40:34.180 --> 40:36.180]  I'm going to keep you longer than you want to stay
[40:36.180 --> 40:39.180]  and I'm going to make you do things you don't want to do.
[40:39.180 --> 40:41.180]  And that's what I told them.
[40:41.180 --> 40:43.180]  And I told the judge the other day in court,
[40:43.180 --> 40:52.180]  they filed 12 attorneys and the bank filed a petition for injunctive relief to the court.
[40:52.180 --> 40:56.180]  And we went to hear the motion on the petition.
[40:56.180 --> 41:03.180]  And the judge sat there and did his normal threats and everything
[41:03.180 --> 41:07.180]  and told me that this had no basis in law
[41:07.180 --> 41:11.180]  and he was going to sanction me and all this kind of stuff
[41:11.180 --> 41:14.180]  and putting liens on these attorneys and all this kind of stuff.
[41:14.180 --> 41:15.180]  And he did.
[41:15.180 --> 41:17.180]  And then he turned around and said,
[41:17.180 --> 41:21.180]  but I cannot give injunctive relief to these people.
[41:21.180 --> 41:23.180]  That was plastic.
[41:23.180 --> 41:25.180]  There was no basis in law on what I'm doing,
[41:25.180 --> 41:29.180]  but he couldn't do anything with it.
[41:29.180 --> 41:31.180]  Wonderful.
[41:31.180 --> 41:32.180]  And that's on court.
[41:32.180 --> 41:34.180]  That's in federal court.
[41:34.180 --> 41:37.180]  But he did sanction me $25,000,
[41:37.180 --> 41:39.180]  which the attorney looked at him and said,
[41:39.180 --> 41:41.180]  that's useless.
[41:41.180 --> 41:44.180]  You can't make this guy pay $25,000.
[41:44.180 --> 41:46.180]  And he's already done his homework
[41:46.180 --> 41:50.180]  and he's already seen that I've got a $100 billion lien against all my property.
[41:50.180 --> 41:53.180]  I'm first in line, first in time, trueholder in due course.
[41:53.180 --> 41:55.180]  That's $100 billion in silver, by the way.
[41:55.180 --> 41:58.180]  Anybody who wants my property, I'll sell it to them for half price.
[41:58.180 --> 42:01.180]  They just take care of the lien.
[42:01.180 --> 42:06.180]  And so there's just nothing they can do.
[42:06.180 --> 42:10.180]  He can assess, but he can't collect.
[42:10.180 --> 42:15.180]  Well, actually, what's going to happen due to his illegal order
[42:15.180 --> 42:18.180]  is I'm going to do a negative vermin on the judge now.
[42:18.180 --> 42:21.180]  And I'm going to make him, I am the damaged party,
[42:21.180 --> 42:25.180]  I can prove it through their own testimony in federal court.
[42:25.180 --> 42:30.180]  And so I am the damaged party and I will go after the judge now.
[42:30.180 --> 42:31.180]  Wonderful.
[42:31.180 --> 42:33.180]  I'll be nice to him up to this point,
[42:33.180 --> 42:37.180]  but I'm taking the gloves off now.
[42:37.180 --> 42:41.180]  They only owe me $20 billion now.
[42:41.180 --> 42:45.180]  And it's growing at $3 million a day, I believe it is,
[42:45.180 --> 42:48.180]  with interest and penalty.
[42:48.180 --> 42:52.180]  And you say there's no way they can get out from under this.
[42:52.180 --> 42:56.180]  Judge said they couldn't get them out from under it in court.
[42:56.180 --> 43:06.180]  And so that goes to an issue where you would expect them to do most anything
[43:06.180 --> 43:07.180]  to avoid this.
[43:07.180 --> 43:12.180]  I get people calling all the time talking about judges ignoring law.
[43:12.180 --> 43:17.180]  How do you keep them from ignoring law up the chain?
[43:17.180 --> 43:20.180]  I put it in admiralty and international commerce.
[43:20.180 --> 43:22.180]  They can't deal with that.
[43:22.180 --> 43:24.180]  It doesn't matter what the judge does.
[43:24.180 --> 43:25.180]  Actually, he's irrelevant.
[43:25.180 --> 43:26.180]  And I told him that.
[43:26.180 --> 43:27.180]  I said, you're irrelevant.
[43:27.180 --> 43:31.180]  It doesn't matter what your real orders are or what you say.
[43:31.180 --> 43:34.180]  In this court, I said, you've exhausted your administrative remedy.
[43:34.180 --> 43:36.180]  You can't do anything with this case.
[43:36.180 --> 43:37.180]  Okay, hold on.
[43:37.180 --> 43:38.180]  We're about to go to break.
[43:38.180 --> 43:39.180]  Okay.
[43:39.180 --> 43:41.180]  Hold that thought.
[43:41.180 --> 43:42.180]  We'll pick it up on the other side.
[43:42.180 --> 43:46.180]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[43:46.180 --> 43:48.180]  We'll be back shortly.
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[45:34.180 --> 45:39.180]  If you could not wage any bouts of love, would your purpose have to die?
[45:39.180 --> 45:45.180]  Such a sentiment, a soldier, a warrior of love, scuffling that keeps it peace
[45:45.180 --> 45:51.180]  All it's taking is a misunderstanding, if somebody calls the police
[45:51.180 --> 46:15.180]  What's in the spotlight?
[46:15.180 --> 46:20.180]  The friction isn't the diction, the hard words can leave you cold as nails
[46:20.180 --> 46:26.180]  There's possibility to tranquility, heavy loads are safe and unscathed
[46:26.180 --> 46:32.180]  The time is colliding with the gauntlet, you find out after a while
[46:32.180 --> 46:37.180]  It's not your moral standard, it's your patience that's on trial
[46:37.180 --> 46:49.180]  What's in the spotlight?
[46:49.180 --> 46:53.180]  What's in the spotlight?
[46:53.180 --> 46:58.180]  Alright, we're here with Tim Turner.
[46:58.180 --> 46:59.180]  Go ahead, Randy.
[46:59.180 --> 47:07.180]  Tim, you wanted to address the restoration of the public in this last segment.
[47:07.180 --> 47:12.180]  Yes. That's another thing we talk about in our seminars,
[47:12.180 --> 47:17.180]  is that we've been trying for many years to reestablish the original jurisdiction.
[47:17.180 --> 47:23.180]  There's your republic government that has been replaced by the corporation.
[47:23.180 --> 47:28.180]  And I'm happy to say that that has, it's almost completed now.
[47:28.180 --> 47:33.180]  We have restored most of the positions.
[47:33.180 --> 47:35.180]  We're electing a cabinet.
[47:35.180 --> 47:38.180]  In fact, the call that I've got to go on when I finish here
[47:38.180 --> 47:41.180]  is the appointing of the cabinet officials.
[47:41.180 --> 47:43.180]  The president has been elected.
[47:43.180 --> 47:49.180]  I think we have 47 states with governors, I believe it is now, and senators.
[47:49.180 --> 47:55.180]  And we're going forward now and setting a time to convene our congress.
[47:55.180 --> 47:57.180]  This thing is going on.
[47:57.180 --> 48:01.180]  Another thing we're doing is establishing our militias.
[48:01.180 --> 48:06.180]  The military has told us that they are inclined to support us.
[48:06.180 --> 48:11.180]  However, they have to have militias, at least 100 militia men in every state,
[48:11.180 --> 48:14.180]  in order to interface with the public,
[48:14.180 --> 48:17.180]  because they can't directly do it without the militia,
[48:17.180 --> 48:25.180]  because of the constitutional protections that won't allow them to police the public.
[48:25.180 --> 48:32.180]  So they require a minimum of 100 in every state, and we're working on that now.
[48:32.180 --> 48:34.180]  We're trying to get people all over.
[48:34.180 --> 48:41.180]  And if you have any input and would like to be a part of that militia,
[48:41.180 --> 48:52.180]  we would love for you to contact us at jtturner077 at gmail.com.
[48:52.180 --> 48:55.180]  That's my email setup for that.
[48:55.180 --> 48:57.180]  And if you can contact us,
[48:57.180 --> 49:00.180]  we would like to put you in touch with people in your state
[49:00.180 --> 49:02.180]  that are working on this militia project now.
[49:02.180 --> 49:04.180]  We need to do this quickly.
[49:04.180 --> 49:07.180]  Are you familiar with Mark Kornke?
[49:07.180 --> 49:11.180]  Yes, I have not met Mark.
[49:11.180 --> 49:14.180]  He has indicated he wants to talk with me.
[49:14.180 --> 49:18.180]  I've been extremely busy in the last couple of weeks and have not had time,
[49:18.180 --> 49:22.180]  but I'm going to in the next day or so hopefully get in touch with him.
[49:22.180 --> 49:25.180]  He is a remarkable individual.
[49:25.180 --> 49:27.180]  And he's on the same page we are.
[49:27.180 --> 49:30.180]  One thing we want the people to understand out there,
[49:30.180 --> 49:33.180]  this is a republic militia for each state.
[49:33.180 --> 49:37.180]  This is not one of these hate groups.
[49:37.180 --> 49:41.180]  These are honorable, hard-working American men and women
[49:41.180 --> 49:45.180]  that are fed up with the abuses of the corporation.
[49:45.180 --> 49:48.180]  We have the lawful right to do this.
[49:48.180 --> 49:52.180]  We are going to exercise our lawful right to do it, and we need your help.
[49:52.180 --> 49:54.180]  We need to establish as many.
[49:54.180 --> 50:00.180]  We already have on the west coast of the states a 100,000-man militia already in place.
[50:00.180 --> 50:06.180]  In Alabama, they're signing up left and right, as well as in North Carolina.
[50:06.180 --> 50:10.180]  And Texas, I understand, there's already a lot of them coming together.
[50:10.180 --> 50:14.180]  So we're trying to organize this effort across the nation.
[50:14.180 --> 50:21.180]  And because we believe, we estimate that there's probably at least 3 million militia people
[50:21.180 --> 50:27.180]  that are willing to stand up right now in America.
[50:27.180 --> 50:30.180]  That will make everybody take notice.
[50:30.180 --> 50:32.180]  Yeah, and we need to organize this.
[50:32.180 --> 50:35.180]  This is not going to be a ragtag bunch of rebels.
[50:35.180 --> 50:39.180]  This is going to be an organized, hopefully peaceful event.
[50:39.180 --> 50:43.180]  But we are making demands very soon on the corporation
[50:43.180 --> 50:49.180]  to restore what we're supposed to have and step down.
[50:49.180 --> 50:52.180]  And we're going to demand it.
[50:52.180 --> 50:55.180]  Well, if you can talk to Mark Kornke,
[50:55.180 --> 51:01.180]  he would certainly be a good addition to what you're doing.
[51:01.180 --> 51:02.180]  Oh, absolutely.
[51:02.180 --> 51:08.180]  And we fully intend to talk to Mark very soon in the next few days.
[51:08.180 --> 51:11.180]  We've already talked about that.
[51:11.180 --> 51:16.180]  We are trying to not get involved with too many of what we label as the hate groups.
[51:16.180 --> 51:18.180]  That's not what we're about.
[51:18.180 --> 51:23.180]  We're not concerned about the color of a man's skin or what religion he is.
[51:23.180 --> 51:29.180]  We are concerned about the integrity that he has because we're all American.
[51:29.180 --> 51:34.180]  And we need to come together and solidify that bond
[51:34.180 --> 51:38.180]  and come together and reestablish a righteous government in this nation
[51:38.180 --> 51:44.180]  because the one we have, it is just disintegrating within right now.
[51:44.180 --> 51:45.180]  It is absolutely.
[51:45.180 --> 51:49.180]  We've already had 28 states have said a declaration already,
[51:49.180 --> 51:54.180]  sent a declaration to Congress, reestablishing their sovereignty,
[51:54.180 --> 51:56.180]  which is a big statement.
[51:56.180 --> 51:58.180]  I have a question about that.
[51:58.180 --> 52:02.180]  What effect do you expect that to have on the relationship
[52:02.180 --> 52:07.180]  between the individual states and the federal government?
[52:07.180 --> 52:12.180]  It's going to have a negative effect between the two parties.
[52:12.180 --> 52:16.180]  However, that is good in favor of what we're trying to do
[52:16.180 --> 52:21.180]  because we believe that the same people that are involved in this separation
[52:21.180 --> 52:23.180]  will probably come on board and help us.
[52:23.180 --> 52:28.180]  And with the military support that we were promised,
[52:28.180 --> 52:29.180]  so most people don't know,
[52:29.180 --> 52:35.180]  but our president is automatically the commander in chief of the military,
[52:35.180 --> 52:37.180]  and they understand that.
[52:37.180 --> 52:39.180]  They understand it.
[52:39.180 --> 52:44.180]  Because the imposter that's in Washington was never the president
[52:44.180 --> 52:49.180]  of the United States of America, he's only the president of a corporation.
[52:49.180 --> 52:53.180]  And that's why it doesn't matter if Obama is an American citizen or not.
[52:53.180 --> 52:55.180]  He doesn't have to be.
[52:55.180 --> 52:59.180]  If that was a dead issue, as far as the people were talking about that,
[52:59.180 --> 53:01.180]  he may not be an American citizen.
[53:01.180 --> 53:02.180]  It's not important.
[53:02.180 --> 53:04.180]  He doesn't have to be to be the president of the corporation.
[53:04.180 --> 53:07.180]  However, if he was the president of the United States of America,
[53:07.180 --> 53:13.180]  he would have to be a citizen of the United States of America.
[53:13.180 --> 53:15.180]  So that's how they skated that issue.
[53:15.180 --> 53:18.180]  The Supreme Court understood that, and we didn't.
[53:18.180 --> 53:20.180]  Sure they did. Yeah, sure they did.
[53:20.180 --> 53:21.180]  They understood it.
[53:21.180 --> 53:22.180]  I understand it.
[53:22.180 --> 53:23.180]  I know all about it.
[53:23.180 --> 53:27.180]  And that's the reason the people that were complaining about that,
[53:27.180 --> 53:31.180]  I told them back before they started, it will go nowhere.
[53:31.180 --> 53:34.180]  It's not important because he doesn't have to be.
[53:34.180 --> 53:37.180]  And I don't know whether he is not.
[53:37.180 --> 53:41.180]  And, you know, I have no hate and discontent with Obama.
[53:41.180 --> 53:44.180]  I don't even know the man, don't really know much about him.
[53:44.180 --> 53:47.180]  He's going to do what he's told to do, just like whoever would have been in there,
[53:47.180 --> 53:50.180]  McCain would have been in there, he would have done the same.
[53:50.180 --> 53:55.180]  It wouldn't have mattered because they all work for the same people.
[53:55.180 --> 53:59.180]  The United States is owned by foreign corporations,
[53:59.180 --> 54:02.180]  and that's why they are a foreign corporation in reality.
[54:02.180 --> 54:05.180]  Washington DC belongs to the International Monetary Fund.
[54:05.180 --> 54:09.180]  It was deeded to them in 1944 by the Bretton Woods Agreement.
[54:09.180 --> 54:12.180]  So we don't even own Washington anymore.
[54:12.180 --> 54:14.180]  At least they don't think we do.
[54:14.180 --> 54:21.180]  We found through some treaties recently that actually that was an illegal sale.
[54:21.180 --> 54:26.180]  They didn't have the right to sell the property because it actually belongs under treaty law,
[54:26.180 --> 54:28.180]  which was upheld last year.
[54:28.180 --> 54:31.180]  It still belongs to the Cherokee Nation of India.
[54:31.180 --> 54:34.180]  And that's still current today.
[54:34.180 --> 54:37.180]  So the sale was an illegal sale and done in fraud,
[54:37.180 --> 54:43.180]  so the sale can be negated because of that.
[54:43.180 --> 54:49.180]  Well, that will be a slick way for the government to get out of their debts.
[54:49.180 --> 54:54.180]  Well, the debt, this is the great thing about the republic.
[54:54.180 --> 54:59.180]  When the republic is reestablished, the American people will owe no debt
[54:59.180 --> 55:01.180]  because all of the debt is bogus.
[55:01.180 --> 55:03.180]  If they want to collect the debt,
[55:03.180 --> 55:07.180]  then we need to take those that are in Congress and their children
[55:07.180 --> 55:11.180]  and sell them into slavery to pay it because they created it.
[55:11.180 --> 55:14.180]  If we didn't create the debt, they did.
[55:14.180 --> 55:19.180]  And so let them have them for the slaves and let them work for it.
[55:19.180 --> 55:22.180]  We have a caller in that I would like to bring up.
[55:22.180 --> 55:25.180]  I'm sure he wants to chime in on this particular issue.
[55:25.180 --> 55:26.180]  Sure.
[55:26.180 --> 55:28.180]  This is Dr. Bill Veith.
[55:28.180 --> 55:33.180]  He's my resident money expert.
[55:33.180 --> 55:34.180]  He is.
[55:34.180 --> 55:35.180]  Dr. Veith, are you there?
[55:35.180 --> 55:36.180]  I am.
[55:36.180 --> 55:37.180]  Hi, Randy.
[55:37.180 --> 55:38.180]  How are you?
[55:38.180 --> 55:39.180]  Wonderful.
[55:39.180 --> 55:41.180]  Did you have something you wanted to contribute?
[55:41.180 --> 55:42.180]  Well, just a quick one.
[55:42.180 --> 55:44.180]  I don't want to take too much time because I'm very interested
[55:44.180 --> 55:47.180]  in all the things your guest has to say.
[55:47.180 --> 55:51.180]  The only thing I wanted to mention is I was wondering if your guest has read
[55:51.180 --> 55:59.180]  the material that Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr. has written on reestablishing the militias.
[55:59.180 --> 56:01.180]  No, I have not, but I would love to.
[56:01.180 --> 56:02.180]  Yeah.
[56:02.180 --> 56:09.180]  Dr. Vieira is, first of all, he's probably the world's foremost expert on real money.
[56:09.180 --> 56:15.180]  He wrote a book called Pieces of Eight, and it's 1,800 pages,
[56:15.180 --> 56:22.180]  and it's in two 900-page hard mountain books, and it's meticulously documented
[56:22.180 --> 56:28.180]  on the history of money in the United States from the colonial days till the present.
[56:28.180 --> 56:34.180]  Dr. Vieira has a Ph.D. from Harvard, and he also has a law degree from Harvard,
[56:34.180 --> 56:40.180]  and he is very passionate about reestablishing the republic militias, the state militias.
[56:40.180 --> 56:42.180]  Isn't that absolutely necessary?
[56:42.180 --> 56:48.180]  Yeah, he's done a tremendous amount of work on it, and last year he was looking for somebody.
[56:48.180 --> 56:53.180]  He said that it was so important to do this that he wanted to write a book on it,
[56:53.180 --> 56:58.180]  and when this guy writes, I mean, his research is the best I've ever read.
[56:58.180 --> 57:02.180]  But anyway, and he said he was hoping to get somebody who was wealthy
[57:02.180 --> 57:08.180]  that would just pay him like $75,000 a year so he could quit doing everything he had to do
[57:08.180 --> 57:11.180]  and could just work on the book and get it out.
[57:11.180 --> 57:13.180]  And I called him and told him I would help fund that.
[57:13.180 --> 57:18.180]  If we could get several people together, I would help fund that to help him get that book out.
[57:18.180 --> 57:22.180]  And we talked a little bit, and he said, you know, he said it's very generous of you,
[57:22.180 --> 57:24.180]  but he said I'm looking for somebody.
[57:24.180 --> 57:27.180]  He said there are people out there with millions and billions of dollars
[57:27.180 --> 57:28.180]  Oh, absolutely.
[57:28.180 --> 57:31.180]  that could pay $75,000. I'm not looking for somebody like you.
[57:31.180 --> 57:34.180]  I'm a psychologist that, you know, works for a living day-to-day.
[57:34.180 --> 57:38.180]  I'm looking for somebody wealthy, and if it's not that important to somebody wealthy,
[57:38.180 --> 57:42.180]  then maybe it's just so he wouldn't let me help fund the book,
[57:42.180 --> 57:46.180]  but he's written many, many articles about it on the Internet.
[57:46.180 --> 57:53.180]  And I think that if you needed any type of help with how to structure it legally or otherwise,
[57:53.180 --> 57:56.180]  that's the guy to go to, and he is brilliant.
[57:56.180 --> 57:59.180]  I would really love to have his contact information,
[57:59.180 --> 58:05.180]  because we are trying to do the research and establish this properly by law.
[58:05.180 --> 58:08.180]  I will email his contact information to you.
[58:08.180 --> 58:12.180]  I've talked to him on the phone several times and emailed with him a number of times.
[58:12.180 --> 58:16.180]  Well, great. And you had my email address up and out earlier.
[58:16.180 --> 58:18.180]  Yeah, was it J.T. Turner?
[58:18.180 --> 58:23.180]  J.T. Turner, 077 at gmail.com.
[58:23.180 --> 58:25.180]  Yeah, I got it.
[58:25.180 --> 58:26.180]  Thank you.
[58:26.180 --> 58:29.180]  I will get you his contact information.
[58:29.180 --> 58:31.180]  I appreciate that. Thank you.
[58:31.180 --> 58:35.180]  We're about out of time for this segment.
[58:35.180 --> 58:37.180]  Thank you, Tim, for joining us.
[58:37.180 --> 58:39.180]  I'm sorry we have another guest for the next hour.
[58:39.180 --> 58:42.180]  We certainly want to bring you back again.
[58:42.180 --> 58:44.180]  Well, sure, I'd be happy to, Randy.
[58:44.180 --> 58:49.180]  Thank you for the time, and we'll get together again soon and look forward to seeing you soon.
[58:49.180 --> 58:51.180]  Me too. Thank you very much.
[58:51.180 --> 58:54.180]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law.
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[01:00:16.180 --> 01:00:21.180]  Come on, man. Come on. Come on. Come on.
[01:00:23.180 --> 01:00:29.180]  Neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:00:31.180 --> 01:00:37.180]  Neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:00:39.180 --> 01:00:43.180]  I tried to do this sleeping, but it's not going back.
[01:00:43.180 --> 01:00:47.180]  Disturbing me, but I'm relaxing. Neba da been disturbing.
[01:00:47.180 --> 01:00:51.180]  I gave him some raki chat, chocolate and kidding.
[01:00:51.180 --> 01:00:55.180]  How come da been trolling? Blowing sand in the back end.
[01:00:55.180 --> 01:00:59.180]  Neba come a argue with. Tell me, how did I miss him?
[01:00:59.180 --> 01:01:03.180]  Tell me, neba, what's happening? Six or one, ten, half a dozen.
[01:01:03.180 --> 01:01:07.180]  Six, six, seven, eight, ba. It's a dog out there.
[01:01:07.180 --> 01:01:09.180]  Out with me backyard.
[01:01:09.180 --> 01:01:17.180]  He's disturbing me, but tell him, neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:01:19.180 --> 01:01:25.180]  Neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:01:27.180 --> 01:01:31.180]  I gave him sponge and eating. Gave him red and eating.
[01:01:31.180 --> 01:01:35.180]  Watch out this uptight guessin', wouldn't stop from barking.
[01:01:35.180 --> 01:01:39.180]  Fasting, neba, peeping. Looking over, peeking.
[01:01:39.180 --> 01:01:43.180]  Your dog in my yard yard. Barking, disturbing.
[01:01:43.180 --> 01:01:47.180]  When he just start sleeping, your bath lab is barking.
[01:01:47.180 --> 01:01:51.180]  Your rooster man is crowing. All them things are flashing.
[01:01:51.180 --> 01:01:55.180]  You know that I like it, but maybe still I do it.
[01:01:55.180 --> 01:01:59.180]  Tell me, how you like it? How your dog is barking?
[01:01:59.180 --> 01:02:03.180]  Let you know I'm warning, but your dog bark too much and sing.
[01:02:03.180 --> 01:02:09.180]  He's disturbing me, but tell him, neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:02:09.180 --> 01:02:11.180]  Out with me backyard.
[01:02:11.180 --> 01:02:21.180]  He's disturbing me, but tell him, neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:02:23.180 --> 01:02:29.180]  Neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:02:29.180 --> 01:02:31.180]  When he bark, when he bark, when he bark, when he bark.
[01:02:31.180 --> 01:02:37.180]  Neba, neba, betcha da go kamigad.
[01:02:37.180 --> 01:02:39.180]  When he bark, when he bark.
[01:02:39.180 --> 01:02:43.180]  Six of me say something, half a dozen same thing.
[01:02:43.180 --> 01:02:47.180]  Six of me say one thing, half a dozen same thing.
[01:02:47.180 --> 01:02:51.180]  You know like this warning, get mad when I start arguing.
[01:02:51.180 --> 01:02:55.180]  Tell me it's not your business, let me send you back one day.
[01:02:55.180 --> 01:02:59.180]  Your dog is barking, I've been told that's what he's saying.
[01:02:59.180 --> 01:03:03.180]  Now he's mouthing, chewing, dog not saying nothing.
[01:03:03.180 --> 01:03:05.180]  Fixed to what I will, he said.
[01:03:05.180 --> 01:03:07.180]  Chasing all about my yard and things.
[01:03:07.180 --> 01:03:11.180]  Dog a want to come in, lick and sing in the kitchen.
[01:03:11.180 --> 01:03:13.180]  Back to me house and things.
[01:03:13.180 --> 01:03:17.180]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:03:17.180 --> 01:03:21.180]  We are here, hour two.
[01:03:21.180 --> 01:03:31.180]  And we have our second guest, Sheila Dean from 511campaign.org right here in Austin, Texas.
[01:03:31.180 --> 01:03:39.180]  And Sheila, you've been working quite a bit on basically bucking up against the Real ID Act
[01:03:39.180 --> 01:03:43.180]  and the implementation of that here in Texas.
[01:03:43.180 --> 01:03:50.180]  And I just wanted you to basically give an overview to our listeners of what the Real ID Act is
[01:03:50.180 --> 01:03:56.180]  at the federal level and how you've been combating it at the state level,
[01:03:56.180 --> 01:04:03.180]  what we can do about it now, how that relates to RFID chips and all that sort of thing.
[01:04:03.180 --> 01:04:08.180]  And as Randy was mentioning on the break, Dr. Catherine Albrecht is going to be here
[01:04:08.180 --> 01:04:12.180]  this coming Monday evening, March 2nd at Brave New Books.
[01:04:12.180 --> 01:04:16.180]  We're going to be broadcasting live from Brave New Books.
[01:04:16.180 --> 01:04:21.180]  Dr. Albrecht is going to be a guest, and Sheila, I hope you'll be joining us as well.
[01:04:21.180 --> 01:04:25.180]  So if you could just give us an overview of what the situation here is
[01:04:25.180 --> 01:04:28.180]  and what you're doing about it.
[01:04:28.180 --> 01:04:32.180]  Well, first I'd like to say thank you for having me on the show.
[01:04:32.180 --> 01:04:40.180]  I hope that everyone will attend the 11 with Brave New Books' Catherine Albrecht
[01:04:40.180 --> 01:04:44.180]  coming down to Texas next Monday night at 7 p.m.
[01:04:44.180 --> 01:04:49.180]  I call it 11 jokingly because so many people just are really psyched
[01:04:49.180 --> 01:04:53.180]  about having her here in Texas.
[01:04:53.180 --> 01:04:57.180]  She's done some great work creating awareness about the dangers
[01:04:57.180 --> 01:05:04.180]  and the lack of identity security regarding the radio frequency ID technology.
[01:05:04.180 --> 01:05:10.180]  Essentially it's the same kind of technology that tracks the package.
[01:05:10.180 --> 01:05:14.180]  Like if you zap a UPS package you can find out where it's been
[01:05:14.180 --> 01:05:17.180]  because of the radio frequency ID chip.
[01:05:17.180 --> 01:05:21.180]  Now the dangers of the real ID is that it incorporates this technology
[01:05:21.180 --> 01:05:24.180]  which is the radio frequency ID into your license.
[01:05:24.180 --> 01:05:28.180]  So essentially you can be tracked the same way UPS tracks their packages.
[01:05:28.180 --> 01:05:31.180]  So to keep it super simple.
[01:05:31.180 --> 01:05:34.180]  So what would a real ID be used for?
[01:05:34.180 --> 01:05:39.180]  The real ID would be the federal ID or nationalized ID card.
[01:05:39.180 --> 01:05:44.180]  And it's mandated for crossing U.S. borders, attaining social services,
[01:05:44.180 --> 01:05:48.180]  to enter federal buildings, to board commercial aircraft.
[01:05:48.180 --> 01:05:53.180]  If you work in a nuclear facility you'd go into the nuclear facility with the real ID.
[01:05:53.180 --> 01:05:58.180]  It requires your biometrics and proof of citizenship to be entered
[01:05:58.180 --> 01:06:03.180]  into an insecure international database by the Department of Homeland Security.
[01:06:03.180 --> 01:06:07.180]  DHS is the enforcer for the real ID Act.
[01:06:07.180 --> 01:06:11.180]  And most recently Janet Napolitano,
[01:06:11.180 --> 01:06:17.180]  who is the new Department of Homeland Security Secretary,
[01:06:17.180 --> 01:06:24.180]  kind of is trying to recreate the image of real ID as like it's not so bad
[01:06:24.180 --> 01:06:27.180]  if it's an enhanced driver's license.
[01:06:27.180 --> 01:06:28.180]  It is.
[01:06:28.180 --> 01:06:30.180]  It's the same thing, exact same animal.
[01:06:30.180 --> 01:06:33.180]  And the things that we don't like about real ID are the exact same.
[01:06:33.180 --> 01:06:37.180]  It's got the radio frequency ID technology inside of it.
[01:06:37.180 --> 01:06:39.180]  And it also has the biometrics.
[01:06:39.180 --> 01:06:47.180]  The biometrics are the physical bodily attributes that are identifiers about you
[01:06:47.180 --> 01:06:55.180]  and they're attributed to that and that card and stored on that RFID chip in the card.
[01:06:55.180 --> 01:07:01.180]  And they want to take everything that's an identity attribute on that card
[01:07:01.180 --> 01:07:05.180]  and, you know, put it in some sort of database.
[01:07:05.180 --> 01:07:10.180]  I don't think they're going to get the funding here in Texas because Raymond Pena,
[01:07:10.180 --> 01:07:15.180]  Pena Raymond, yes, Richard Pena Raymond, Representative Raymond,
[01:07:15.180 --> 01:07:20.180]  for the second legislature in a row, 80th and 81st,
[01:07:20.180 --> 01:07:24.180]  the one we're currently in, said no appropriations.
[01:07:24.180 --> 01:07:26.180]  So this is huge news.
[01:07:26.180 --> 01:07:30.180]  He's the vice chair of appropriations here in the Texas legislature
[01:07:30.180 --> 01:07:35.180]  and he said I don't think DPS is going to get the funding from the state of Texas
[01:07:35.180 --> 01:07:38.180]  to roll out real IDs.
[01:07:38.180 --> 01:07:40.180]  So there's somewhat of a sigh of relief,
[01:07:40.180 --> 01:07:44.180]  but I'm not really that happy because I won't be happy until the state of Texas
[01:07:44.180 --> 01:07:52.180]  rejects real ID and that's the whole point of the 511 campaign.
[01:07:52.180 --> 01:07:53.180]  So there you have it.
[01:07:53.180 --> 01:07:54.180]  Well, yes, absolutely.
[01:07:54.180 --> 01:08:01.180]  And on Chris Emory's show last night, his guest was saying
[01:08:01.180 --> 01:08:06.180]  that the states were actually going to have to legislate proactively to ban it
[01:08:06.180 --> 01:08:12.180]  and even make it illegal because the feds actually have the funding readily available
[01:08:12.180 --> 01:08:16.180]  in the event that the states decide, oh, well, we don't want it
[01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:22.180]  and we're not going to do it and the reason we're not going to do it is because of money.
[01:08:22.180 --> 01:08:29.180]  This is just kind of, we look at that as kind of like preemptive planning
[01:08:29.180 --> 01:08:34.180]  because we know that our government likes to create money out of thin air
[01:08:34.180 --> 01:08:38.180]  and they're doing it now and they've been doing it for a little while now,
[01:08:38.180 --> 01:08:39.180]  which it scares everybody.
[01:08:39.180 --> 01:08:41.180]  It's cheapened our economy.
[01:08:41.180 --> 01:08:44.180]  It's drove up inflation.
[01:08:44.180 --> 01:08:49.180]  It's one of the reasons why we are in such bad economic shape.
[01:08:49.180 --> 01:08:55.180]  So it doesn't startle or surprise me that maybe they could just manufacture some money to pay
[01:08:55.180 --> 01:09:03.180]  for real ID technology or the regulations that scare everyone.
[01:09:03.180 --> 01:09:08.180]  One of the things that is especially bad about the Real ID Act is that it calls
[01:09:08.180 --> 01:09:15.180]  for the Department of Homeland Security to determine the official purpose of an American identity
[01:09:15.180 --> 01:09:20.180]  and in the future the government can require a real ID to open a bank,
[01:09:20.180 --> 01:09:27.180]  enroll in classes, buy food, get medical care, or enter an employment contract in the United States.
[01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:33.180]  And the Secretary of DHS, when it was turned off, he already used his powers,
[01:09:33.180 --> 01:09:40.180]  granted by Section 102C, to waive 36 federal laws to expedite the construction
[01:09:40.180 --> 01:09:42.180]  of the U.S.-Mexico border wall fence.
[01:09:42.180 --> 01:09:47.180]  Now, wherever you're at on the border wall fence, I think it should alarm you just a little bit
[01:09:47.180 --> 01:09:52.180]  that he was able to just come in, brush aside 36 federal laws,
[01:09:52.180 --> 01:09:58.180]  and just throw up an eminent domain fence where no Texan,
[01:09:58.180 --> 01:10:07.180]  even though they approached the Supreme Court, was able to get an answer, fight it, or oppose it.
[01:10:07.180 --> 01:10:10.180]  So, Randy, I actually have a question for you about this.
[01:10:10.180 --> 01:10:18.180]  What is the approach for people who can't fight the eminent domain claims on their land
[01:10:18.180 --> 01:10:21.180]  due to the border wall fence, due to the Real ID Act?
[01:10:21.180 --> 01:10:23.180]  It's a question that would be hard to ask.
[01:10:23.180 --> 01:10:29.180]  It depends on the nature of the border wall fence and the nature of the use of the property.
[01:10:29.180 --> 01:10:34.180]  Do they just put the fence in or do they put the fence in
[01:10:34.180 --> 01:10:42.180]  and then set aside a section of property essentially as a no-man's land
[01:10:42.180 --> 01:10:46.180]  where the owner of the property can't use it?
[01:10:46.180 --> 01:10:48.180]  There's a lot of issues involved.
[01:10:48.180 --> 01:10:53.180]  It would be hard to just blanket, say, what they can do and what they can't do.
[01:10:53.180 --> 01:10:59.180]  Under eminent domain, there is a tremendous amount of power,
[01:10:59.180 --> 01:11:02.180]  and it's left to the states to define it.
[01:11:02.180 --> 01:11:13.180]  That was the case a few years ago in Dallas where they were trying to expand a shopping mall,
[01:11:13.180 --> 01:11:19.180]  and the city took people's private property so that the shopping mall could expand.
[01:11:19.180 --> 01:11:26.180]  Well, they took the issue to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said,
[01:11:26.180 --> 01:11:34.180]  we can't do anything about it, but the reason they said that is it was a state issue and not a federal issue,
[01:11:34.180 --> 01:11:41.180]  that the states themselves had to pass their own laws concerning eminent domain.
[01:11:41.180 --> 01:11:51.180]  So how the feds can come into the state and take state property is, I don't know.
[01:11:51.180 --> 01:11:55.180]  It's out of my area of knowledge.
[01:11:55.180 --> 01:12:01.180]  So I figured I'd at least attempt to find out what's going on with Texas,
[01:12:01.180 --> 01:12:06.180]  because these people's properties, they're being depreciated.
[01:12:06.180 --> 01:12:12.180]  There's also environmental issues, but there are some people I'm sure that are listening to this
[01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:20.180]  that can't be okay with some of the degradation and wildlife preserves
[01:12:20.180 --> 01:12:25.180]  that have been cut off or cut through due to the fence.
[01:12:25.180 --> 01:12:30.180]  But wherever you are at at the fence, about the fence,
[01:12:30.180 --> 01:12:34.180]  I think what's important is that the Department of Homeland Security,
[01:12:34.180 --> 01:12:42.180]  which is a national security outlet, was able to just come in and pop a fence on their property,
[01:12:42.180 --> 01:12:44.180]  and I think that that is something that you should look at.
[01:12:44.180 --> 01:12:54.180]  They used that power, and so we as 511 campaigners are trying to return power to the states.
[01:12:54.180 --> 01:13:02.180]  We helped, at least we had some hand in introducing or at least putting it in front of Leo Berman
[01:13:02.180 --> 01:13:10.180]  the pilot legislation for HC50, I believe.
[01:13:10.180 --> 01:13:15.180]  I haven't had much to do with it since because I've had my head down in the real ID stuff,
[01:13:15.180 --> 01:13:21.180]  but we got that model legislation from Mark Lerner's crew at Oklahoma.
[01:13:21.180 --> 01:13:27.180]  And we looked at it and said, I have no idea who would adopt this,
[01:13:27.180 --> 01:13:32.180]  but I shopped it around for the first couple weeks of the session and see who might be a good taker.
[01:13:32.180 --> 01:13:40.180]  And Leo Berman picked it up, so from there I didn't really pay much attention to it,
[01:13:40.180 --> 01:13:49.180]  but the groundswell for support and the grassroots, namely Ron Paul people,
[01:13:49.180 --> 01:13:53.180]  started bubbling about this quite a bit.
[01:13:53.180 --> 01:13:56.180]  So I started a little bit of communication with them,
[01:13:56.180 --> 01:14:02.180]  and the next thing I know it's drafted and filed,
[01:14:02.180 --> 01:14:07.180]  and now they're going down to lobby for it on the second.
[01:14:07.180 --> 01:14:13.180]  Okay, you're talking House Bill 50, is that the one that re-declares the state's sovereignty?
[01:14:13.180 --> 01:14:15.180]  Yeah, HCR 50.
[01:14:15.180 --> 01:14:17.180]  Okay.
[01:14:17.180 --> 01:14:20.180]  So that's that, but that's not real ID.
[01:14:20.180 --> 01:14:25.180]  It would contribute to basically the state's sovereignty issue, which is huge.
[01:14:25.180 --> 01:14:30.180]  That's a huge chunk of what we're trying to accomplish here,
[01:14:30.180 --> 01:14:33.180]  but it's not the whole of what we're trying to accomplish.
[01:14:33.180 --> 01:14:39.180]  So I'm trying to attack the Real ID Act head-on from state to federal.
[01:14:39.180 --> 01:14:46.180]  The strategy that's worked the best is for states to reject it.
[01:14:46.180 --> 01:14:49.180]  We're looking at 25 states, half the nation,
[01:14:49.180 --> 01:14:55.180]  rejecting real ID on the basis of privacy, identity, security, and state sovereignty.
[01:14:55.180 --> 01:14:56.180]  That's 25 states.
[01:14:56.180 --> 01:14:59.180]  That's half the nation.
[01:14:59.180 --> 01:15:04.180]  So Texas could easily follow train and not suffer too much of a damage.
[01:15:04.180 --> 01:15:10.180]  There's bubbling and talk about that and of the repeal of real ID anyway in Washington,
[01:15:10.180 --> 01:15:13.180]  because it's such an embarrassment.
[01:15:13.180 --> 01:15:17.180]  We had three senators running for office who green-lighted the thing
[01:15:17.180 --> 01:15:20.180]  and couldn't bear to talk about it during an election season,
[01:15:20.180 --> 01:15:25.180]  because everybody knew it followed in from a writer.
[01:15:25.180 --> 01:15:28.180]  Oh, I didn't talk about that.
[01:15:28.180 --> 01:15:29.180]  Okay.
[01:15:29.180 --> 01:15:30.180]  Go ahead.
[01:15:30.180 --> 01:15:32.180]  Tell us about the writer.
[01:15:32.180 --> 01:15:35.180]  How does he get in on us?
[01:15:35.180 --> 01:15:39.180]  Basically a back door negotiation, HR 1268,
[01:15:39.180 --> 01:15:47.180]  which was an appropriations bill for tsunami relief and for, I think, body armor for the troops,
[01:15:47.180 --> 01:15:49.180]  which was a good thing.
[01:15:49.180 --> 01:15:54.180]  Everybody wants to do something good for people who are in lack,
[01:15:54.180 --> 01:16:00.180]  but senators are kind of notorious these days for not reading legislation that they passed.
[01:16:00.180 --> 01:16:09.180]  And they slipped it in on a writer, and voila, now we are dealing with it on a state-to-state basis.
[01:16:09.180 --> 01:16:12.180]  And so it went back to sleep for a couple years,
[01:16:12.180 --> 01:16:18.180]  and then suddenly in 2007 they started creating regulations for this.
[01:16:18.180 --> 01:16:25.180]  And I think that's how radiofrequency ID became more of an issue,
[01:16:25.180 --> 01:16:30.180]  because it was included in a menu of options to secure the licenses.
[01:16:30.180 --> 01:16:37.180]  That is the least secure technology that you could ever use.
[01:16:37.180 --> 01:16:39.180]  I totally agree.
[01:16:39.180 --> 01:16:44.180]  The least secure technology you could ever use because of broadcast over the airwaves.
[01:16:44.180 --> 01:16:45.180]  All right, Sheila, please stay with us.
[01:16:45.180 --> 01:16:47.180]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:16:47.180 --> 01:16:49.180]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens.
[01:16:49.180 --> 01:16:57.180]  We've got Sheila Dean from 5-11 Campaign. We'll be right back.
[01:17:19.180 --> 01:17:21.180]  We'll be right back.
[01:17:49.180 --> 01:18:02.180]  Thank you.
[01:18:19.180 --> 01:18:28.180]  Well, you ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:18:28.180 --> 01:18:33.180]  I was blindsided but now I can see your plan.
[01:18:33.180 --> 01:18:38.180]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand.
[01:18:38.180 --> 01:18:45.180]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:50.180]  All right, we are back, the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:18:50.180 --> 01:18:52.180]  We are here with Sheila Dean.
[01:18:52.180 --> 01:18:56.180]  Collars, if you could just hold off or if you're on the bridge,
[01:18:56.180 --> 01:18:59.180]  just wait for about another 10 minutes or so.
[01:18:59.180 --> 01:19:03.180]  We are here with Sheila Dean from 5-11 Campaign.
[01:19:03.180 --> 01:19:09.180]  Extremely important issue here concerning the Real ID Act,
[01:19:09.180 --> 01:19:11.180]  and we've got to stop the implementation thereof.
[01:19:11.180 --> 01:19:20.180]  So, Sheila, please continue. You were discussing on the break how we could stop this.
[01:19:20.180 --> 01:19:28.180]  Well, what's important for Texas to know is that radio frequency ID in your licenses
[01:19:28.180 --> 01:19:32.180]  or for immigration purposes has already failed at the border.
[01:19:32.180 --> 01:19:36.180]  They tested it in the US visit program and it failed.
[01:19:36.180 --> 01:19:43.180]  So that's a good qualifier for Texas not to spend any more money on it.
[01:19:43.180 --> 01:19:47.180]  They tried it and it didn't go.
[01:19:47.180 --> 01:19:54.180]  But it hasn't failed the biometrics and it hasn't failed the data aggregation,
[01:19:54.180 --> 01:19:57.180]  which is actually the future of Real ID.
[01:19:57.180 --> 01:20:02.180]  Your information is going to get shared across the borders with the plan.
[01:20:02.180 --> 01:20:07.180]  And this is hitched to the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which is a totally other topic,
[01:20:07.180 --> 01:20:14.180]  but it's an international policy that was decided, you know,
[01:20:14.180 --> 01:20:21.180]  U.N., I guess, Council on Foreign Relations type of policy.
[01:20:21.180 --> 01:20:24.180]  So there's a book on it that you actually can purchase at Braveview,
[01:20:24.180 --> 01:20:32.180]  which is called the North American Community, which will, you know, detail how the Western Hemisphere
[01:20:32.180 --> 01:20:35.180]  Travel Initiative policy works for identity.
[01:20:35.180 --> 01:20:38.180]  So it breaks down to where, you know, you live.
[01:20:38.180 --> 01:20:43.180]  It means it's the reason why you would have scary biometric, you know,
[01:20:43.180 --> 01:20:49.180]  identifiers in your licenses or in your passports.
[01:20:49.180 --> 01:20:53.180]  But we're trying to get Texas to basically back out of it.
[01:20:53.180 --> 01:20:57.180]  We have a piece of legislation that we're trying to push at the Capitol,
[01:20:57.180 --> 01:21:03.180]  which is what we call an opt-out, no appropriations, concurrent resolution.
[01:21:03.180 --> 01:21:08.180]  The state would essentially send that up to the federal government and say thanks but no thanks.
[01:21:08.180 --> 01:21:12.180]  You can just keep your Real ID.
[01:21:12.180 --> 01:21:15.180]  Now, Sheila, you were telling me earlier this afternoon
[01:21:15.180 --> 01:21:20.180]  about your experience being at the legislature, okay,
[01:21:20.180 --> 01:21:26.180]  and harassing these people and going to their offices and talking to those people.
[01:21:26.180 --> 01:21:28.180]  Well, yeah, come on.
[01:21:28.180 --> 01:21:29.180]  I mean, we have to.
[01:21:29.180 --> 01:21:34.180]  So, I mean, can you please just extrapolate on this
[01:21:34.180 --> 01:21:40.180]  and give some people who are listening some inspiration and, you know,
[01:21:40.180 --> 01:21:46.180]  give us a little oomph, so to speak, of, you know, that this is not in vain,
[01:21:46.180 --> 01:21:51.180]  that it does make a difference for us to go down there because I really feel for you.
[01:21:51.180 --> 01:21:57.180]  I mean, you go down to these people's offices and, you know, it's intimidating.
[01:21:57.180 --> 01:21:59.180]  And who else is going to do it?
[01:21:59.180 --> 01:22:01.180]  Who else is going to do it but us?
[01:22:01.180 --> 01:22:06.180]  So could you please give us some, you know, give us your experience on this?
[01:22:06.180 --> 01:22:12.180]  Well, I'm glad that you raised that up because I had thought about that.
[01:22:12.180 --> 01:22:17.180]  And approaching legislators in a big capital filled with important people
[01:22:17.180 --> 01:22:22.180]  that make decisions every day that affect your lives can be intimidating.
[01:22:22.180 --> 01:22:26.180]  But I would encourage you because they still work for you,
[01:22:26.180 --> 01:22:30.180]  not work for you like in a subordinate way but work for you,
[01:22:30.180 --> 01:22:34.180]  meaning they're trying to make things in your life better, respectively.
[01:22:34.180 --> 01:22:40.180]  And if you want to say so in how things break down in your life
[01:22:40.180 --> 01:22:44.180]  or how things move forward in your life,
[01:22:44.180 --> 01:22:51.180]  I think everyone should start including calling and being a part of your government
[01:22:51.180 --> 01:22:55.180]  or being active in your government as important as brushing your teeth,
[01:22:55.180 --> 01:23:02.180]  as important as filing your taxes or going to church or anything else you do regularly
[01:23:02.180 --> 01:23:06.180]  that you feel is a civic responsibility.
[01:23:06.180 --> 01:23:11.180]  And if you want any say so in how your life goes in government
[01:23:11.180 --> 01:23:16.180]  and the things that affect you day to day, you have to get involved in your government.
[01:23:16.180 --> 01:23:21.180]  And that means picking up a phone when things in your neighborhood aren't going your way.
[01:23:21.180 --> 01:23:26.180]  Like I've got spy cameras in my neighborhood that I'm totally hacked off about.
[01:23:26.180 --> 01:23:33.180]  But, you know, I have yet to pick up the phone and call my Austin City Councilman
[01:23:33.180 --> 01:23:39.180]  and still go on my local KOOP radio show and say, I hate these cameras.
[01:23:39.180 --> 01:23:43.180]  I wish the Austin City Council had not put any money on these cameras,
[01:23:43.180 --> 01:23:45.180]  and I'm very disappointed.
[01:23:45.180 --> 01:23:46.180]  And other people hear that.
[01:23:46.180 --> 01:23:53.180]  So calling into shows like Rule of Law and saying, you know, this stinks.
[01:23:53.180 --> 01:23:55.180]  I really think that this is a bad way to go.
[01:23:55.180 --> 01:23:57.180]  You know, back me up, community.
[01:23:57.180 --> 01:24:03.180]  Let's mob the lobby of the Capitol or let's mob the lobby of these decision makers
[01:24:03.180 --> 01:24:08.180]  and say we've got to put an end to this or make some changes here.
[01:24:08.180 --> 01:24:13.180]  Wait, did I hear you mention an evil rival network?
[01:24:13.180 --> 01:24:15.180]  Are you on another show?
[01:24:15.180 --> 01:24:22.180]  If you are, by all means tell everybody where you're at, where they can find you.
[01:24:22.180 --> 01:24:25.180]  Oh, oh, you know, just because they're on a different network
[01:24:25.180 --> 01:24:27.180]  doesn't mean that they're evil.
[01:24:27.180 --> 01:24:29.180]  We call everybody that.
[01:24:29.180 --> 01:24:31.180]  That's a little term of endearment we have.
[01:24:31.180 --> 01:24:33.180]  No, that's him.
[01:24:33.180 --> 01:24:35.180]  Speak for yourself.
[01:24:35.180 --> 01:24:36.180]  Well, it's local.
[01:24:36.180 --> 01:24:40.180]  And I happen to know that the Rule of Law radio is a national show
[01:24:40.180 --> 01:24:43.180]  and that gets picked up on the Internet everywhere.
[01:24:43.180 --> 01:24:47.180]  So, but for people who aren't Austinites, you know,
[01:24:47.180 --> 01:24:52.180]  there is a local radio program here that airs once a week on KOOP.
[01:24:52.180 --> 01:24:53.180]  You can check it out.
[01:24:53.180 --> 01:24:55.180]  It's called Waking Up Orwell.
[01:24:55.180 --> 01:24:57.180]  You know, that's by the by.
[01:24:57.180 --> 01:24:59.180]  Definitely still listen to Catherine Albrecht.
[01:24:59.180 --> 01:25:01.180]  I'm sure she's going to be a lot more consistent for you
[01:25:01.180 --> 01:25:03.180]  because if you're listening to this station,
[01:25:03.180 --> 01:25:12.180]  then she's going to probably have a lot more news right away that will take care of you.
[01:25:12.180 --> 01:25:16.180]  I can't listen to my show.
[01:25:16.180 --> 01:25:17.180]  Excellent.
[01:25:17.180 --> 01:25:21.180]  Well, it's just wonderful that you're getting the word out
[01:25:21.180 --> 01:25:26.180]  because not everybody has the time to do this kind of research.
[01:25:26.180 --> 01:25:29.180]  So we really appreciate it, Sheila.
[01:25:29.180 --> 01:25:30.180]  Well, thank you.
[01:25:30.180 --> 01:25:36.180]  I hope that everybody will take some time out of their daily lives to affect their government.
[01:25:36.180 --> 01:25:45.180]  You can interact by dialing 512-463-4630, I believe,
[01:25:45.180 --> 01:25:51.180]  and reach your Texas Capitol and ask them who your legislator is.
[01:25:51.180 --> 01:25:58.180]  When you're down there, do you find the legislators to be responsive?
[01:25:58.180 --> 01:26:01.180]  It depends on which ones.
[01:26:01.180 --> 01:26:03.180]  You're not a constituent in every district,
[01:26:03.180 --> 01:26:10.180]  so I think that the most responsive people should be the people in where you are a constituent.
[01:26:10.180 --> 01:26:13.180]  Kirk Watson, I haven't heard anything from his office,
[01:26:13.180 --> 01:26:18.180]  but it doesn't mean that my two cents doesn't pack a punch.
[01:26:18.180 --> 01:26:19.180]  I live in his district.
[01:26:19.180 --> 01:26:24.180]  I think it weighs more if I go in there and say something to him.
[01:26:24.180 --> 01:26:26.180]  I have done some lobbying.
[01:26:26.180 --> 01:26:30.180]  I hate Kirk Watson.
[01:26:30.180 --> 01:26:33.180]  He doesn't care what I say, that's why.
[01:26:33.180 --> 01:26:35.180]  Oh, my God, I'm sorry.
[01:26:35.180 --> 01:26:38.180]  I have battled Kirk Watson for decades.
[01:26:38.180 --> 01:26:40.180]  Why battle him?
[01:26:40.180 --> 01:26:47.180]  Yeah, when he was mayor, our neighborhood was a litmus test.
[01:26:47.180 --> 01:26:52.180]  They tried to put our neighborhood literally on the chopping block, and it's still there.
[01:26:52.180 --> 01:27:01.180]  It was the litmus test of the brand-new zoning and to try to...
[01:27:01.180 --> 01:27:02.180]  Why is it distancing?
[01:27:02.180 --> 01:27:13.180]  Well, it had to do with chopping up the neighborhood and making it so that basically lots could be smaller
[01:27:13.180 --> 01:27:18.180]  than what was previously allowed for the last 30 years.
[01:27:18.180 --> 01:27:21.180]  Do not be fooled by Kirk Watson.
[01:27:21.180 --> 01:27:23.180]  I'll tell you that right now.
[01:27:23.180 --> 01:27:25.180]  How did you learn that, Debra?
[01:27:25.180 --> 01:27:28.180]  You had to learn that by smacking up against him yourself, though.
[01:27:28.180 --> 01:27:31.180]  Yep, I sure did.
[01:27:31.180 --> 01:27:37.180]  I had to learn that by having papers sent to my house and not paying attention to them
[01:27:37.180 --> 01:27:40.180]  and neighbors coming and banging on my door saying, look at this.
[01:27:40.180 --> 01:27:41.180]  Have you read this?
[01:27:41.180 --> 01:27:43.180]  And filing petitions.
[01:27:43.180 --> 01:27:48.180]  We went around the neighborhood and we had a valid petition.
[01:27:48.180 --> 01:27:55.180]  Then the city council led by Kirk Watson tried to get people off the petition
[01:27:55.180 --> 01:27:57.180]  who were valid petition signers.
[01:27:57.180 --> 01:28:05.180]  It went all the way up to the point where basically there were two city council people
[01:28:05.180 --> 01:28:13.180]  and it was down to those two whether or not the city of Austin was going to railroad our neighborhood or not.
[01:28:13.180 --> 01:28:20.180]  If it wasn't for the neighbors, if it wasn't for the people around me waking me up and saying, look at this.
[01:28:20.180 --> 01:28:22.180]  Have you read this?
[01:28:22.180 --> 01:28:24.180]  It would have all been over.
[01:28:24.180 --> 01:28:25.180]  There you go.
[01:28:25.180 --> 01:28:26.180]  It would have all been over.
[01:28:26.180 --> 01:28:30.180]  Listen to your neighbors, people, when they tell you, hello, wake up.
[01:28:30.180 --> 01:28:31.180]  Have you read this?
[01:28:31.180 --> 01:28:32.180]  Have you seen this?
[01:28:32.180 --> 01:28:35.180]  Because I didn't pay attention.
[01:28:35.180 --> 01:28:39.180]  They had to wake me up, so indeed.
[01:28:39.180 --> 01:28:44.180]  All right, so I'm asking essentially the same thing from anybody who's a Texan.
[01:28:44.180 --> 01:28:47.180]  I'm your neighbor at this time and I'm telling you, hey, you better wake up.
[01:28:47.180 --> 01:28:54.180]  You better pay attention because in 2010 you're going to be walking around with an enhanced driver's license
[01:28:54.180 --> 01:28:57.180]  if you're not careful, if you're not vigilant.
[01:28:57.180 --> 01:29:01.180]  So I'm asking people to please, you know, look after themselves in this way,
[01:29:01.180 --> 01:29:09.180]  not to the disregard of NAIS or animal chipping or anything else that Catherine Albrecht is working on.
[01:29:09.180 --> 01:29:12.180]  I'm saying be vigilant about your own identity.
[01:29:12.180 --> 01:29:17.180]  These people are trying to legislate technologies that are going to fillet you
[01:29:17.180 --> 01:29:23.180]  and scatter your information to the four winds of the earth.
[01:29:23.180 --> 01:29:28.180]  So I'm asking you to contact your representative, your senator, your district.
[01:29:28.180 --> 01:29:30.180]  I talked to Lloyd Doggett's people tonight.
[01:29:30.180 --> 01:29:33.180]  I went out and hobnob because that's what I'm trying to do
[01:29:33.180 --> 01:29:39.180]  because that's how bad I don't want one of these IVs.
[01:29:39.180 --> 01:29:41.180]  Well, good for you, Sheila.
[01:29:41.180 --> 01:29:44.180]  We all need to be doing what you're doing.
[01:29:44.180 --> 01:29:45.180]  Really? No, really.
[01:29:45.180 --> 01:29:47.180]  Absolutely.
[01:29:47.180 --> 01:29:49.180]  All right, thank you so much for joining us, Sheila.
[01:29:49.180 --> 01:29:52.180]  511campaign.org, correct?
[01:29:52.180 --> 01:29:56.180]  Right. And, you know, you don't have to mob the lobby like I do.
[01:29:56.180 --> 01:30:22.180]  Just pick up the...
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[01:30:30.180 --> 01:30:33.180]  with the information you need to make an informed decision
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[01:30:35.180 --> 01:30:38.180]  Also, Roberts & Roberts Brokerage values your privacy
[01:30:38.180 --> 01:30:41.180]  and will always advise you in the event that we would be required
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[01:31:22.180 --> 01:31:24.180]  Thank you.
[01:31:52.180 --> 01:31:58.180]  I wish, I wish, dirty road machine away.
[01:31:58.180 --> 01:32:05.180]  I wish, I wish, dirty road machine away.
[01:32:05.180 --> 01:32:09.180]  Paper ballots, just like our wallets,
[01:32:09.180 --> 01:32:15.180]  we always gotta see them so we can get our freedom.
[01:32:15.180 --> 01:32:22.180]  Count them one by one by one.
[01:32:22.180 --> 01:32:30.180]  Let me watch them all run, run, run.
[01:32:30.180 --> 01:32:36.180]  I wish, I wish, dirty road machine away.
[01:32:36.180 --> 01:32:43.180]  I wish, I wish, dirty road machine away.
[01:32:43.180 --> 01:32:49.180]  Hey, hey, dirty road machine away.
[01:32:49.180 --> 01:32:53.180]  And later God Washington on my own paper
[01:32:53.180 --> 01:32:56.180]  used some college kids to come to Christa.
[01:32:56.180 --> 01:32:59.180]  In public view, he wants the answer.
[01:32:59.180 --> 01:33:02.180]  The two election we want from ya,
[01:33:02.180 --> 01:33:05.180]  so the people could see who they vote for, sir.
[01:33:05.180 --> 01:33:08.180]  Who knew the computer would be wrong, ya?
[01:33:08.180 --> 01:33:12.180]  I know we have a put a picture fixed, I reason.
[01:33:12.180 --> 01:33:19.180]  Alright, that was Sheila Dean from 511campaign.org.
[01:33:19.180 --> 01:33:24.180]  And Randy, okay, you wanted to go back to Travis from Minnesota.
[01:33:24.180 --> 01:33:26.180]  We also have Tasha from Wisconsin and Christian from Florida.
[01:33:26.180 --> 01:33:28.180]  We'll be taking your calls in just one moment.
[01:33:28.180 --> 01:33:29.180]  Go ahead.
[01:33:29.180 --> 01:33:34.180]  Travis, about how to tell a story.
[01:33:34.180 --> 01:33:36.180]  You talked for quite a while,
[01:33:36.180 --> 01:33:40.180]  and I never did figure out where you were going.
[01:33:40.180 --> 01:33:44.180]  If you have a question, give us the question,
[01:33:44.180 --> 01:33:50.180]  and then give us the information we need to be able to understand the question.
[01:33:50.180 --> 01:33:55.180]  What question do you have?
[01:33:55.180 --> 01:33:57.180]  You there?
[01:33:57.180 --> 01:34:00.180]  Oh, he's muted.
[01:34:00.180 --> 01:34:01.180]  Can you hear me?
[01:34:01.180 --> 01:34:03.180]  Ah, there we go.
[01:34:03.180 --> 01:34:05.180]  I had you muted.
[01:34:05.180 --> 01:34:06.180]  Oh.
[01:34:06.180 --> 01:34:09.180]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:34:09.180 --> 01:34:17.180]  I'm wondering about reopening a case where a judge committed an act of fraud
[01:34:17.180 --> 01:34:25.180]  and convicted me of disorderly conduct where one of the major elements was missing,
[01:34:25.180 --> 01:34:31.180]  being there would have to be two or more people around,
[01:34:31.180 --> 01:34:38.180]  upset by, you know, something I said or did for that conviction to be...
[01:34:38.180 --> 01:34:41.180]  Wait, okay, you're being cryptic again.
[01:34:41.180 --> 01:34:43.180]  What was the conviction?
[01:34:43.180 --> 01:34:45.180]  I told you, disorderly conduct.
[01:34:45.180 --> 01:34:46.180]  Disorderly conduct.
[01:34:46.180 --> 01:34:55.180]  What were the elements of the crime you were convicted of committing?
[01:34:55.180 --> 01:34:56.180]  That I...
[01:34:56.180 --> 01:35:00.180]  Well, I raised my voice, but he kicked me out and made me come back and...
[01:35:00.180 --> 01:35:01.180]  No, wait, wait, wait.
[01:35:01.180 --> 01:35:02.180]  Okay, okay, look.
[01:35:02.180 --> 01:35:03.180]  He yelled.
[01:35:03.180 --> 01:35:05.180]  You're not in court.
[01:35:05.180 --> 01:35:08.180]  You don't have to defend yourself to us.
[01:35:08.180 --> 01:35:14.180]  And frankly, when I deal with this kind of thing, I'm not really interested in...
[01:35:14.180 --> 01:35:16.180]  I don't care if you were a bad guy or not.
[01:35:16.180 --> 01:35:18.180]  I don't care if you screwed up or not.
[01:35:18.180 --> 01:35:20.180]  You know, you get pissed off and you say something you shouldn't have.
[01:35:20.180 --> 01:35:21.180]  I don't care about that.
[01:35:21.180 --> 01:35:23.180]  I care about the elements.
[01:35:23.180 --> 01:35:26.180]  I care about the process.
[01:35:26.180 --> 01:35:32.180]  So just give us what occurred, and you don't need to defend yourself.
[01:35:32.180 --> 01:35:33.180]  You can be a scoundrel.
[01:35:33.180 --> 01:35:34.180]  It's okay.
[01:35:34.180 --> 01:35:37.180]  You still have to follow due process.
[01:35:37.180 --> 01:35:41.180]  They have to follow the letter of the law, and that's all I really care about here.
[01:35:41.180 --> 01:35:42.180]  Okay.
[01:35:42.180 --> 01:35:43.180]  So I raised my...
[01:35:43.180 --> 01:35:52.180]  I had raised my voice and been critical, and that's what I explained when the judge
[01:35:52.180 --> 01:35:59.180]  asked me to justify why he should allow the plea.
[01:35:59.180 --> 01:36:07.180]  And he told me I really technically couldn't plead disorderly because there weren't
[01:36:07.180 --> 01:36:12.180]  two or more people around, but he went ahead and convicted me of disorderly anyway.
[01:36:12.180 --> 01:36:14.180]  So I want to reopen it.
[01:36:14.180 --> 01:36:16.180]  Me and her are on different terms.
[01:36:16.180 --> 01:36:17.180]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:36:17.180 --> 01:36:19.180]  No, you're running into all kinds of different things.
[01:36:19.180 --> 01:36:20.180]  I can't keep up.
[01:36:20.180 --> 01:36:21.180]  Okay.
[01:36:21.180 --> 01:36:23.180]  My ex-girlfriend is...
[01:36:23.180 --> 01:36:24.180]  No.
[01:36:24.180 --> 01:36:25.180]  Okay.
[01:36:25.180 --> 01:36:28.180]  The judge convicted you of disorderly conduct.
[01:36:28.180 --> 01:36:29.180]  Yes.
[01:36:29.180 --> 01:36:30.180]  And there were conditions that he...
[01:36:30.180 --> 01:36:31.180]  There were elements he had to meet.
[01:36:31.180 --> 01:36:32.180]  What were the elements?
[01:36:32.180 --> 01:36:43.180]  Now, I revised what I was going to kind of ask you, so I'm hoping that I can just go
[01:36:43.180 --> 01:36:44.180]  ahead.
[01:36:44.180 --> 01:36:45.180]  Okay.
[01:36:45.180 --> 01:36:46.180]  Go to the next thing.
[01:36:46.180 --> 01:36:55.180]  See, I wrote it down right here.
[01:36:55.180 --> 01:37:08.180]  Basically, me and her wanted to get this thing behind us, and she doesn't want to lie on
[01:37:08.180 --> 01:37:09.180]  the stand anymore.
[01:37:09.180 --> 01:37:10.180]  She did before.
[01:37:10.180 --> 01:37:15.180]  She had told me about it, and I had got to allude to it on recording confession.
[01:37:15.180 --> 01:37:16.180]  Okay.
[01:37:16.180 --> 01:37:17.180]  No, no.
[01:37:17.180 --> 01:37:18.180]  Let's not go off in tangents.
[01:37:18.180 --> 01:37:20.180]  Where do you want to go?
[01:37:20.180 --> 01:37:25.180]  So I want to reopen it.
[01:37:25.180 --> 01:37:28.180]  I want to withdraw my guilty plea.
[01:37:28.180 --> 01:37:32.180]  I want to file maybe a fraud on the court.
[01:37:32.180 --> 01:37:35.180]  Were you found guilty?
[01:37:35.180 --> 01:37:37.180]  Of disorderly conduct, yes.
[01:37:37.180 --> 01:37:38.180]  Too late.
[01:37:38.180 --> 01:37:40.180]  You can't reopen it.
[01:37:40.180 --> 01:37:41.180]  So...
[01:37:41.180 --> 01:37:44.180]  Did you file an appeal?
[01:37:44.180 --> 01:37:46.180]  An appeal?
[01:37:46.180 --> 01:37:47.180]  Yeah.
[01:37:47.180 --> 01:37:50.180]  Okay.
[01:37:50.180 --> 01:37:56.180]  Well, assuming that I go before the judge on this, what I'm wondering...
[01:37:56.180 --> 01:37:57.180]  Stop.
[01:37:57.180 --> 01:37:58.180]  Stop.
[01:37:58.180 --> 01:37:59.180]  You can't.
[01:37:59.180 --> 01:38:04.180]  Once you're convicted, if you have an appeal within the time limit, it's over.
[01:38:04.180 --> 01:38:05.180]  Okay.
[01:38:05.180 --> 01:38:08.180]  What's the average...
[01:38:08.180 --> 01:38:17.180]  The remedy is a pardon for the most part.
[01:38:17.180 --> 01:38:20.180]  As far as I know, that's about it.
[01:38:20.180 --> 01:38:23.180]  Unless you can go back and show that the court lacks subject matter jurisdiction, you're
[01:38:23.180 --> 01:38:27.180]  not going to be able to undo the conviction.
[01:38:27.180 --> 01:38:29.180]  The court lacks...
[01:38:29.180 --> 01:38:32.180]  The court committed an act of fraud.
[01:38:32.180 --> 01:38:38.180]  Now, if you can show that they did that, then you can move to overturn the conviction.
[01:38:38.180 --> 01:38:39.180]  Yeah.
[01:38:39.180 --> 01:38:42.180]  I need to get the transcripts, and that's another thing, but I didn't want to bring
[01:38:42.180 --> 01:38:43.180]  that up.
[01:38:43.180 --> 01:38:47.180]  What I wanted to ask is if I go before that same judge that did that, which I'd imagine
[01:38:47.180 --> 01:38:51.180]  I would, should I ask him to talk to him in private?
[01:38:51.180 --> 01:38:52.180]  No.
[01:38:52.180 --> 01:38:53.180]  Never can do that.
[01:38:53.180 --> 01:38:54.180]  That's forbidden.
[01:38:54.180 --> 01:38:55.180]  That's ex parte.
[01:38:55.180 --> 01:38:56.180]  It's forbidden.
[01:38:56.180 --> 01:39:02.180]  I have to threaten him in open court with his act of fraud.
[01:39:02.180 --> 01:39:07.180]  If you accuse him of fraud, he cannot preside over the case, period.
[01:39:07.180 --> 01:39:12.180]  They'll have to recuse him and replace him with someone else.
[01:39:12.180 --> 01:39:14.180]  Well, that'll be fine.
[01:39:14.180 --> 01:39:16.180]  The other judges don't like him.
[01:39:16.180 --> 01:39:17.180]  Good.
[01:39:17.180 --> 01:39:18.180]  That may work out for you.
[01:39:18.180 --> 01:39:22.180]  So you accuse him of fraud, prepare a criminal complaint, and file it.
[01:39:22.180 --> 01:39:26.180]  You don't care if they adjudicate it like they're supposed to.
[01:39:26.180 --> 01:39:32.180]  When you have the criminal complaint filed, then you prepare a motion to disqualify the
[01:39:32.180 --> 01:39:33.180]  judge.
[01:39:33.180 --> 01:39:40.180]  You can do that even after the case is over because you can show that the judge lost subject
[01:39:40.180 --> 01:39:45.180]  matter jurisdiction when he violated laws relating to his office and moved to have the
[01:39:45.180 --> 01:39:47.180]  conviction thrown out.
[01:39:47.180 --> 01:39:51.180]  If you can get that done, odds are they won't prosecute you again.
[01:39:51.180 --> 01:39:52.180]  Okay.
[01:39:52.180 --> 01:39:54.180]  That's what I'm looking for.
[01:39:54.180 --> 01:39:58.180]  That happened back in, I want to say September.
[01:39:58.180 --> 01:40:02.180]  Does it sound like it's something that is relevant?
[01:40:02.180 --> 01:40:03.180]  Nope.
[01:40:03.180 --> 01:40:10.180]  When it goes to subject matter jurisdiction, subject matter jurisdiction can be challenged
[01:40:10.180 --> 01:40:15.180]  no matter how remote in history.
[01:40:15.180 --> 01:40:20.180]  This goes to, you might want to write this down and go to the legal library and do some
[01:40:20.180 --> 01:40:29.180]  research in Minnesota law on trespass ab initio from the beginning.
[01:40:29.180 --> 01:40:37.180]  What the doctrine of trespass ab initio goes to, even if an officer makes a valid and proper
[01:40:37.180 --> 01:40:45.180]  arrest, if after the arrest he violates a due process right of yours, he becomes a trespasser
[01:40:45.180 --> 01:40:49.180]  from the beginning and all his acts are defeated.
[01:40:49.180 --> 01:40:57.180]  So even if the judge had subject matter jurisdiction, if he violated a law relating to his office,
[01:40:57.180 --> 01:41:01.180]  he became a trespasser from the beginning and all his acts are defeated.
[01:41:01.180 --> 01:41:06.180]  So you just need to show that the judge violated a law relating to his office.
[01:41:06.180 --> 01:41:07.180]  Okay.
[01:41:07.180 --> 01:41:09.180]  That's not hard to do because they all do.
[01:41:09.180 --> 01:41:10.180]  Smart.
[01:41:10.180 --> 01:41:11.180]  And then have him removed.
[01:41:11.180 --> 01:41:12.180]  We really need to move along.
[01:41:12.180 --> 01:41:14.180]  The call board is building up.
[01:41:14.180 --> 01:41:15.180]  Okay.
[01:41:15.180 --> 01:41:16.180]  Well, thank you.
[01:41:16.180 --> 01:41:20.180]  You are welcome.
[01:41:20.180 --> 01:41:21.180]  Okay.
[01:41:21.180 --> 01:41:22.180]  We'll go to...
[01:41:22.180 --> 01:41:23.180]  Okay.
[01:41:23.180 --> 01:41:24.180]  Yeah.
[01:41:24.180 --> 01:41:27.180]  We got Tasha from Wisconsin.
[01:41:27.180 --> 01:41:28.180]  Hello?
[01:41:28.180 --> 01:41:29.180]  Tasha, thanks for calling in.
[01:41:29.180 --> 01:41:31.180]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:41:31.180 --> 01:41:33.180]  I have a problem.
[01:41:33.180 --> 01:41:42.180]  I was arrested for a DUI in Bolling Creek, Kentucky in December of 2008.
[01:41:42.180 --> 01:41:46.180]  I was parked at a gas station and my voice friend was driving.
[01:41:46.180 --> 01:41:47.180]  The police were there...
[01:41:47.180 --> 01:41:48.180]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:41:48.180 --> 01:41:49.180]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:41:49.180 --> 01:41:51.180]  Tasha, we're having a hard time hearing you.
[01:41:51.180 --> 01:41:54.180]  Are you on a speak-o-phone?
[01:41:54.180 --> 01:41:55.180]  Hold on one second.
[01:41:55.180 --> 01:42:00.180]  I'm on my cell phone.
[01:42:00.180 --> 01:42:01.180]  Okay.
[01:42:01.180 --> 01:42:02.180]  Hello?
[01:42:02.180 --> 01:42:03.180]  That's much better.
[01:42:03.180 --> 01:42:04.180]  Thank you.
[01:42:04.180 --> 01:42:05.180]  Okay.
[01:42:05.180 --> 01:42:12.180]  I was arrested for a DUI and charged with a DUI and four felony counts of wanton endangerment.
[01:42:12.180 --> 01:42:14.180]  My children were in the car.
[01:42:14.180 --> 01:42:17.180]  I was actually a passenger of a vehicle.
[01:42:17.180 --> 01:42:20.180]  I was arrested and taken to jail.
[01:42:20.180 --> 01:42:25.180]  At the jail, the magistrate that I had to go in front of the next morning to set my
[01:42:25.180 --> 01:42:31.180]  bond and then to determine if I was bound over for grand jury indictment was actually
[01:42:31.180 --> 01:42:34.180]  at the jail at the time of my arrest.
[01:42:34.180 --> 01:42:35.180]  I was quite upset.
[01:42:35.180 --> 01:42:40.180]  I wasn't ready to read my Miranda rights.
[01:42:40.180 --> 01:42:42.180]  I was arrested and booked.
[01:42:42.180 --> 01:42:47.180]  Then the next morning when I went to court for my bond to be set, I had to go in front
[01:42:47.180 --> 01:42:50.180]  of the same magistrate that was at the jail.
[01:42:50.180 --> 01:42:56.180]  The police officer at the time that he arrested me and took me to the jail consulted with
[01:42:56.180 --> 01:43:01.180]  the magistrate and asked him what could he book me on where I wouldn't be able to just
[01:43:01.180 --> 01:43:02.180]  sign myself out.
[01:43:02.180 --> 01:43:07.180]  He said, well, you know, you can write it up as a felony case since there were minor
[01:43:07.180 --> 01:43:08.180]  children involved.
[01:43:08.180 --> 01:43:13.180]  Even though I was parked at the gas station, my boyfriend had been driving the vehicle.
[01:43:13.180 --> 01:43:15.180]  He was not intoxicated.
[01:43:15.180 --> 01:43:17.180]  I was just a passenger.
[01:43:17.180 --> 01:43:21.180]  But I honked the horn and the keys were in the car when he went into the gas station.
[01:43:21.180 --> 01:43:25.180]  So that's what they're basing their charges on.
[01:43:25.180 --> 01:43:27.180]  Were you in the driver's seat?
[01:43:27.180 --> 01:43:29.180]  Yes, I was.
[01:43:29.180 --> 01:43:31.180]  Not good.
[01:43:31.180 --> 01:43:38.180]  And I admitted to the police officer that I had moved the car from the gas pump to the
[01:43:38.180 --> 01:43:39.180]  front of the gas station.
[01:43:39.180 --> 01:43:40.180]  Okay.
[01:43:40.180 --> 01:43:41.180]  That doesn't matter.
[01:43:41.180 --> 01:43:43.180]  Oh, oh, wait, wait.
[01:43:43.180 --> 01:43:45.180]  You're in Wisconsin.
[01:43:45.180 --> 01:43:48.180]  The laws are different in different states, but as a rule...
[01:43:48.180 --> 01:43:50.180]  This was in Kentucky where it happened.
[01:43:50.180 --> 01:43:52.180]  Oh, it was in Kentucky?
[01:43:52.180 --> 01:43:53.180]  Yes.
[01:43:53.180 --> 01:43:54.180]  Oh.
[01:43:54.180 --> 01:43:59.180]  And actually, it happened in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
[01:43:59.180 --> 01:44:01.180]  We've got to go to break.
[01:44:01.180 --> 01:44:02.180]  Okay.
[01:44:02.180 --> 01:44:03.180]  No, no, no.
[01:44:03.180 --> 01:44:04.180]  I was going to skip break.
[01:44:04.180 --> 01:44:05.180]  I told you I was shot.
[01:44:05.180 --> 01:44:06.180]  Yeah, I didn't.
[01:44:06.180 --> 01:44:07.180]  Okay.
[01:44:07.180 --> 01:44:08.180]  I'm sorry.
[01:44:08.180 --> 01:44:09.180]  Go ahead, Tasha.
[01:44:09.180 --> 01:44:10.180]  Okay.
[01:44:10.180 --> 01:44:16.180]  So once the magistrate that was actually at the deal, they were all friends.
[01:44:16.180 --> 01:44:21.180]  He was joking with the police officers and told them how to write up the case and everything.
[01:44:21.180 --> 01:44:24.180]  The next morning I go before the same magistrate.
[01:44:24.180 --> 01:44:34.180]  He set my bond at $5,000 cash and then found me over for grand jury indictment, which I
[01:44:34.180 --> 01:44:38.180]  don't see how that could be fair since he was at the jail at the time of the arrest
[01:44:38.180 --> 01:44:42.180]  and then he was the judge presiding over my case.
[01:44:42.180 --> 01:44:47.180]  But anyways, they found me over and charged me with the four felonies.
[01:44:47.180 --> 01:44:53.180]  My attorney got into a very bad car accident and his father was killed.
[01:44:53.180 --> 01:44:57.180]  So it's been postponed and new dates have been set.
[01:44:57.180 --> 01:45:03.180]  He called me actually today and told me that my free trial is on Monday and they're offering
[01:45:03.180 --> 01:45:07.180]  me a five-year prison sentence and they want to run it.
[01:45:07.180 --> 01:45:14.180]  I think it's consecutive because on all four felonies, they're class D felonies, the one
[01:45:14.180 --> 01:45:16.180]  endangerment on my children.
[01:45:16.180 --> 01:45:19.180]  But totaling it all, it would be up to 20 years.
[01:45:19.180 --> 01:45:22.180]  So they're saying I'm facing 20 years.
[01:45:22.180 --> 01:45:25.180]  And it's my first anything.
[01:45:25.180 --> 01:45:30.180]  I've never been, you know what I mean, arrested before, in trouble before or anything.
[01:45:30.180 --> 01:45:33.180]  And we were actually at the gas station park.
[01:45:33.180 --> 01:45:37.180]  The police just happened to be there arresting someone else.
[01:45:37.180 --> 01:45:46.180]  And then when I was in court, the man was trying to help me get in contact with my boyfriend
[01:45:46.180 --> 01:45:48.180]  and got on the phone.
[01:45:48.180 --> 01:45:53.180]  I'm white and my boyfriend is black and the alcohol assessment guy that actually reports
[01:45:53.180 --> 01:45:59.180]  the judge and does the recommendation told me that that's a real nigger as soon as he
[01:45:59.180 --> 01:46:03.180]  heard my family on the phone and hung the phone up on him.
[01:46:03.180 --> 01:46:09.180]  And as we were in actually in the courtroom, the little side room where you have like a
[01:46:09.180 --> 01:46:11.180]  conference room.
[01:46:11.180 --> 01:46:17.180]  So the whole thing was just horrible.
[01:46:17.180 --> 01:46:18.180]  And use that.
[01:46:18.180 --> 01:46:21.180]  I don't know if you'll be able to.
[01:46:21.180 --> 01:46:33.180]  The thing I would want to find out is what jurisdiction the officer has concerning motor
[01:46:33.180 --> 01:46:37.180]  vehicle on private property.
[01:46:37.180 --> 01:46:38.180]  Right.
[01:46:38.180 --> 01:46:43.180]  It wasn't parked at a private gas station.
[01:46:43.180 --> 01:46:47.180]  And thinking about it, here's my problem.
[01:46:47.180 --> 01:46:54.180]  If they're charging you with child endangerment, then it wouldn't make any difference where
[01:46:54.180 --> 01:46:55.180]  it was at.
[01:46:55.180 --> 01:47:02.180]  So child endangerment is not a traffic related allegation.
[01:47:02.180 --> 01:47:07.180]  They're charging me with actual Wanson endangerment?
[01:47:07.180 --> 01:47:10.180]  They won't be able to prove it.
[01:47:10.180 --> 01:47:12.180]  This is kind of a standard procedure.
[01:47:12.180 --> 01:47:18.180]  They charge you with the most outrageous thing they can to get you to cop a plea to something
[01:47:18.180 --> 01:47:19.180]  lesser.
[01:47:19.180 --> 01:47:20.180]  Right.
[01:47:20.180 --> 01:47:21.180]  And that's what they've done.
[01:47:21.180 --> 01:47:27.180]  They offered me two years to begin with with 60 days and then I was eligible for parole.
[01:47:27.180 --> 01:47:30.180]  That was the first offer and I told them no.
[01:47:30.180 --> 01:47:34.180]  And then now they've came back with the five years, some kind of standing something where
[01:47:34.180 --> 01:47:41.180]  the judge can either offer you time or probation.
[01:47:41.180 --> 01:47:46.180]  And the attorneys advised me not to let my fiance come to court and testify that he was
[01:47:46.180 --> 01:47:52.180]  actually driving because in the officer's statement that he wrote in the police report
[01:47:52.180 --> 01:47:54.180]  it said that I had been driving all night.
[01:47:54.180 --> 01:47:59.180]  That my fiance reported to him that I had been driving the car all night.
[01:47:59.180 --> 01:48:03.180]  But when in actuality, he had been driving all night.
[01:48:03.180 --> 01:48:10.180]  But the other thing was my attorney wanted me to lie and tell them that he was not able
[01:48:10.180 --> 01:48:15.180]  to be reached, that I did not know where he was at due to the fact that he was black and
[01:48:15.180 --> 01:48:19.180]  that he thought that that might hinder my case and that I would be found guilty anyways
[01:48:19.180 --> 01:48:21.180]  because it's in majority white jurors.
[01:48:21.180 --> 01:48:25.180]  Remove it to the federal court.
[01:48:25.180 --> 01:48:27.180]  And how would I do that?
[01:48:27.180 --> 01:48:29.180]  Simple removal.
[01:48:29.180 --> 01:48:32.180]  You can't, you see, that's not a motion.
[01:48:32.180 --> 01:48:33.180]  It's removal.
[01:48:33.180 --> 01:48:35.180]  You remove it.
[01:48:35.180 --> 01:48:42.180]  When you file a removal into the state court, it is removed at that moment.
[01:48:42.180 --> 01:48:49.180]  And you file the removal based on civil rights violation and racial discrimination,
[01:48:49.180 --> 01:48:53.180]  the discriminating against you and prosecuting you because you were with a black man
[01:48:53.180 --> 01:48:55.180]  and they don't like it.
[01:48:55.180 --> 01:48:57.180]  Great discrimination case.
[01:48:57.180 --> 01:49:02.180]  File it with the federal court and bring the issue before the federal court.
[01:49:02.180 --> 01:49:08.180]  But you have to have a good, well-briefed argument.
[01:49:08.180 --> 01:49:10.180]  You have to do your research.
[01:49:10.180 --> 01:49:14.180]  Have you ever done any legal research?
[01:49:14.180 --> 01:49:16.180]  Not really, kind of.
[01:49:16.180 --> 01:49:20.180]  It's not as hard as it would seem.
[01:49:20.180 --> 01:49:24.180]  You don't have to be an attorney and know everything there is to know about contracts
[01:49:24.180 --> 01:49:29.180]  and real estate and family law and corporate law.
[01:49:29.180 --> 01:49:32.180]  You only have to know this one.
[01:49:32.180 --> 01:49:35.180]  One issue, one case.
[01:49:35.180 --> 01:49:41.180]  Go down and look at discrimination, black girl, white guy.
[01:49:41.180 --> 01:49:45.180]  It should be, I mean, black guy, white girl.
[01:49:45.180 --> 01:49:46.180]  Okay.
[01:49:46.180 --> 01:49:49.180]  It should be lots of case law on that.
[01:49:49.180 --> 01:49:50.180]  Okay.
[01:49:50.180 --> 01:49:54.180]  And maintain that's the reason for the outrageous charges
[01:49:54.180 --> 01:49:59.180]  and that the officer perjured himself in his statement.
[01:49:59.180 --> 01:50:00.180]  Remove it to the federal court.
[01:50:00.180 --> 01:50:03.180]  If you can get the federal court to pick it up,
[01:50:03.180 --> 01:50:06.180]  they may throw the whole thing out because they're going to look at it
[01:50:06.180 --> 01:50:09.180]  and they're going to say it's an outrageous charge.
[01:50:09.180 --> 01:50:10.180]  Okay.
[01:50:10.180 --> 01:50:15.180]  Unless there are some things you haven't told us,
[01:50:15.180 --> 01:50:19.180]  like you knocked over three gas pumps and gas was poured everywhere
[01:50:19.180 --> 01:50:24.180]  and you fell out of the car and threw up all over the cop.
[01:50:24.180 --> 01:50:27.180]  Those kind of minor little details.
[01:50:27.180 --> 01:50:30.180]  No, that didn't happen.
[01:50:30.180 --> 01:50:34.180]  So where would I file to have it removed to the federal court?
[01:50:34.180 --> 01:50:37.180]  I would actually go to the courthouse myself?
[01:50:37.180 --> 01:50:39.180]  You can ask your attorney to do it.
[01:50:39.180 --> 01:50:48.180]  You can claim racial discrimination and ask the attorney to remove to the federal court
[01:50:48.180 --> 01:50:51.180]  because you can't get a fair hearing here in the state court
[01:50:51.180 --> 01:50:55.180]  and the state has violated the constitutional rights.
[01:50:55.180 --> 01:50:56.180]  Okay.
[01:50:56.180 --> 01:51:00.180]  And do you know if they tape record all of the conversations that go on
[01:51:00.180 --> 01:51:02.180]  in the conferences and the jails?
[01:51:02.180 --> 01:51:03.180]  Oh, yeah.
[01:51:03.180 --> 01:51:07.180]  They do so if I ask for those cases.
[01:51:07.180 --> 01:51:11.180]  Is that against my rights that the magistrate actually had prior knowledge of the case
[01:51:11.180 --> 01:51:13.180]  before hearing it in his courtroom?
[01:51:13.180 --> 01:51:15.180]  Yes.
[01:51:15.180 --> 01:51:18.180]  Okay, and could that be another basis for removal from the state
[01:51:18.180 --> 01:51:19.180]  and up to federal level?
[01:51:19.180 --> 01:51:23.180]  No, that's a basis for dismissal.
[01:51:23.180 --> 01:51:28.180]  That's a basis for finding no probable cause.
[01:51:28.180 --> 01:51:32.180]  You can disqualify the judge for having an ex parte communication.
[01:51:32.180 --> 01:51:37.180]  I'm not familiar with Kentucky law on the details here,
[01:51:37.180 --> 01:51:42.180]  but this is relatively consistent around the country
[01:51:42.180 --> 01:51:45.180]  in that when a person is arrested,
[01:51:45.180 --> 01:51:50.180]  the policeman has authority to arrest for an on-site offense,
[01:51:50.180 --> 01:51:57.180]  but he only has the authority to hold for as long as it takes to get the person before a magistrate.
[01:51:57.180 --> 01:52:03.180]  And then the magistrate must perform an examining trial to determine if probable cause exists.
[01:52:03.180 --> 01:52:09.180]  Well, an examining trial is a court hearing, and all the rules of court apply,
[01:52:09.180 --> 01:52:11.180]  and the rules of evidence apply.
[01:52:11.180 --> 01:52:16.180]  And one of the rules of evidence is that evidence is given in court,
[01:52:16.180 --> 01:52:21.180]  not back in the back room where both parties are not present.
[01:52:21.180 --> 01:52:27.180]  So if he received evidence outside a proper hearing, that's an ex parte communication,
[01:52:27.180 --> 01:52:32.180]  and in Texas it would be a class A misdemeanor, meaner official oppression.
[01:52:32.180 --> 01:52:36.180]  And I suspect it's equally a crime in Kentucky.
[01:52:36.180 --> 01:52:42.180]  Right, and if he had first-hand knowledge in witnessing me and my behaviors,
[01:52:42.180 --> 01:52:45.180]  you know what I mean, wouldn't they have brought me into the jail?
[01:52:45.180 --> 01:52:47.180]  That he can do.
[01:52:47.180 --> 01:52:48.180]  Oh, he can?
[01:52:48.180 --> 01:52:49.180]  Yeah.
[01:52:49.180 --> 01:52:50.180]  Okay.
[01:52:50.180 --> 01:52:54.180]  Okay, he's not trying the case.
[01:52:54.180 --> 01:53:00.180]  He's just making a determination of probable cause to say, yeah, there's enough reason.
[01:53:00.180 --> 01:53:05.180]  You know, if they bring you before the judge and you throw up and you fall down on the floor,
[01:53:05.180 --> 01:53:11.180]  and he smells booze all over the place, he's going to say, I think she could be drunk.
[01:53:11.180 --> 01:53:12.180]  Right.
[01:53:12.180 --> 01:53:13.180]  And he makes a determination of probable cause.
[01:53:13.180 --> 01:53:15.180]  That's all he's doing.
[01:53:15.180 --> 01:53:22.180]  But he can't receive evidence from one party without both parties there.
[01:53:22.180 --> 01:53:23.180]  Okay.
[01:53:23.180 --> 01:53:28.180]  That's an ex parte communication, and it's forbidden in all cases.
[01:53:28.180 --> 01:53:29.180]  Okay.
[01:53:29.180 --> 01:53:37.180]  So that may be one way to go after him, but the other one, since if your attorney is advising you
[01:53:37.180 --> 01:53:45.180]  not to bring your black boyfriend into the picture, that certainly goes to racial discrimination.
[01:53:45.180 --> 01:53:51.180]  He advised me to say that I didn't know where he was located at or couldn't get in touch with him or anything
[01:53:51.180 --> 01:53:56.180]  because they said that the only witness that they have for the state would be my boyfriend.
[01:53:56.180 --> 01:54:02.180]  And they would use his statements that the police officer wrote in his report as, you know what I mean,
[01:54:02.180 --> 01:54:09.180]  as a character to, you know, to call this character because in court, and his story is that he was driving,
[01:54:09.180 --> 01:54:17.180]  I wasn't driving, but in the police officer's report, it states that he said that I had been driving all evening.
[01:54:17.180 --> 01:54:24.180]  So then he said that that would, and since he's black, you know what I mean, I shouldn't bring him to court.
[01:54:24.180 --> 01:54:32.180]  And then the other man actually used the word nigger in the courtroom or in the conference room,
[01:54:32.180 --> 01:54:35.180]  and he worked for the court system.
[01:54:35.180 --> 01:54:47.180]  That's, that'll give you some leverage, but it won't be enough because if he's not in a position to adjudicate the case,
[01:54:47.180 --> 01:54:52.180]  the fact that he's a bigot doesn't necessarily mean that the judge is a bigot.
[01:54:52.180 --> 01:54:53.180]  Okay.
[01:54:53.180 --> 01:54:57.180]  So it won't get you that far.
[01:54:57.180 --> 01:55:04.180]  But the fact that your attorney raised concerns about it does go to racial discrimination.
[01:55:04.180 --> 01:55:06.180]  I would sure look at that.
[01:55:06.180 --> 01:55:12.180]  Okay, and would the attorney have to agree with me on the racial discrimination for it to be taken?
[01:55:12.180 --> 01:55:13.180]  No.
[01:55:13.180 --> 01:55:14.180]  No?
[01:55:14.180 --> 01:55:16.180]  He didn't have to agree with anything.
[01:55:16.180 --> 01:55:22.180]  You tell your attorney what to do, and if he doesn't do it, start filing bar grievances against him.
[01:55:22.180 --> 01:55:25.180]  Okay, and if he doesn't do it, file what kind of grievance?
[01:55:25.180 --> 01:55:27.180]  Bar grievance, state bar association.
[01:55:27.180 --> 01:55:30.180]  You need to listen to our show some more.
[01:55:30.180 --> 01:55:33.180]  How long do you have before you go to court?
[01:55:33.180 --> 01:55:40.180]  I have to be to court on Monday for a pre-trial conference.
[01:55:40.180 --> 01:55:41.180]  A little short of time.
[01:55:41.180 --> 01:55:48.180]  I was notified today of the fact that I have to be in Kentucky on Monday, or they're going to revoke my bond.
[01:55:48.180 --> 01:55:52.180]  Yeah, how long has it been since you were arrested?
[01:55:52.180 --> 01:55:56.180]  Over a year, a year and two months.
[01:55:56.180 --> 01:56:01.180]  You might file speedy trial, too old to prosecute.
[01:56:01.180 --> 01:56:03.180]  Look at that.
[01:56:03.180 --> 01:56:07.180]  Check the law in speedy trial.
[01:56:07.180 --> 01:56:08.180]  It's too old to prosecute.
[01:56:08.180 --> 01:56:15.180]  Even a felony, as a rule, they got 180 days, six months.
[01:56:15.180 --> 01:56:16.180]  Oh, really?
[01:56:16.180 --> 01:56:17.180]  That's as a rule.
[01:56:17.180 --> 01:56:23.180]  You need to check that you have a right to speedy trial, and it's been over a year.
[01:56:23.180 --> 01:56:25.180]  You need to raise that issue.
[01:56:25.180 --> 01:56:29.180]  Has your attorney asked for any continuances?
[01:56:29.180 --> 01:56:35.180]  No, my attorney was involved in a serious car accident, and I was pregnant.
[01:56:35.180 --> 01:56:41.180]  I actually got pregnant right after I was arrested, and then I ended up having the baby.
[01:56:41.180 --> 01:56:42.180]  You know what I mean?
[01:56:42.180 --> 01:56:44.180]  So that postponed it out a little bit.
[01:56:44.180 --> 01:56:52.180]  Oh, okay, so the delay was from your side, so you can't claim speedy trial on that.
[01:56:52.180 --> 01:56:56.180]  Okay, you have to go back and look at due process.
[01:56:56.180 --> 01:57:04.180]  First thing you have to do, go to Kentucky, penal code, code of criminal procedure, read them twice.
[01:57:04.180 --> 01:57:05.180]  Okay.
[01:57:05.180 --> 01:57:07.180]  It won't take you near as long as you think.
[01:57:07.180 --> 01:57:11.180]  It looks like a big book, but everything in there is outlined.
[01:57:11.180 --> 01:57:14.180]  So there's a whole lot of white space in there.
[01:57:14.180 --> 01:57:16.180]  When you start going through it, it really goes quickly.
[01:57:16.180 --> 01:57:20.180]  I went to Pennsylvania, got out the penal code for Pennsylvania.
[01:57:20.180 --> 01:57:23.180]  It took me two hours to go through the whole thing.
[01:57:23.180 --> 01:57:24.180]  Okay.
[01:57:24.180 --> 01:57:29.180]  So it's a short amount of time for the rest of your life.
[01:57:29.180 --> 01:57:37.180]  Get the penal code, code of criminal procedure, read them twice, especially criminal procedure.
[01:57:37.180 --> 01:57:44.180]  Then you got a good idea of what they're supposed to do, and then go back and look for things that they were supposed to do that they didn't do.
[01:57:44.180 --> 01:57:45.180]  Listen to this show.
[01:57:45.180 --> 01:57:46.180]  Okay.
[01:57:46.180 --> 01:57:58.180]  We go over due process a lot, and because there are a lot of details here, the first time you hear it, it just sounds like spaghetti.
[01:57:58.180 --> 01:58:06.180]  But as you begin to hear it over and over, you start to put the pieces in place, and it begins to make sense.
[01:58:06.180 --> 01:58:12.180]  And you need to understand your case so you can protect yourself.
[01:58:12.180 --> 01:58:16.180]  So first thing, read those two, the penal code, code of criminal procedure.
[01:58:16.180 --> 01:58:21.180]  Ask your attorney what it is and where to find it, and read them twice.
[01:58:21.180 --> 01:58:24.180]  You will be much more empowered.
[01:58:24.180 --> 01:58:25.180]  Okay.
[01:58:25.180 --> 01:58:26.180]  Thank you very much.
[01:58:26.180 --> 01:58:28.180]  We're running out of time.
[01:58:28.180 --> 01:58:30.180]  Thank you.
[01:58:30.180 --> 01:58:41.180]  And thank you for calling, and thank all our listeners, and we will be back tomorrow night for an 8 o'clock to midnight show.
[01:58:41.180 --> 01:58:44.180]  You want to take us out, Deb?
[01:58:44.180 --> 01:58:45.180]  We'll be back tomorrow night.
[01:58:45.180 --> 01:58:48.180]  We'll vlog Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:58:48.180 --> 01:58:50.180]  Yeah, nobody likes to hear my voice last.
[01:58:50.180 --> 01:58:51.180]  Christian.
[01:58:51.180 --> 01:58:52.180]  Oh, come on now.
[01:58:52.180 --> 01:58:55.180]  Everybody wants to hear your voice all the time.
[01:58:55.180 --> 01:59:00.180]  Because you're the one telling us...
[01:59:26.180 --> 01:59:30.180]  I'm like a stepping razor, don't touch my eyes.
[01:59:30.180 --> 01:59:34.180]  I'm dangerous, I'm dangerous.
[01:59:34.180 --> 01:59:38.180]  I'm like a chopping razor, don't touch my eyes.
[01:59:38.180 --> 01:59:41.180]  I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:41.180 --> 01:59:44.180]  If you eat, I won't.
[01:59:44.180 --> 01:59:48.180]  If you dream, be cool.
[01:59:48.180 --> 01:59:52.180]  If you dream, let's move.
[01:59:52.180 --> 01:59:56.180]  You better dream, be cool.