[00:00.000 --> 00:05.500]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.500 --> 00:09.500]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.500 --> 00:11.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.000 --> 00:16.500]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.500 --> 00:18.500]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.500 --> 00:22.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.000 --> 00:26.500]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.500 --> 00:32.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.500]  Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.500 --> 00:47.500]  Spar. It's what fighters do.
[00:47.500 --> 00:51.000]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.000 --> 00:54.000]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.000 --> 00:56.500]  Spar with an extra P.
[00:56.500 --> 01:03.000]  S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, and R for religion.
[01:03.000 --> 01:08.500]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press, assembly, and religion.
[01:08.500 --> 01:10.500]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.500 --> 01:14.500]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.500 --> 01:17.500]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government,
[01:17.500 --> 01:21.000]  we can spell out the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:21.000 --> 01:30.500]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:30.500 --> 01:34.500]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.500 --> 01:38.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.000 --> 01:39.500]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.500 --> 01:43.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way
[01:43.000 --> 01:46.000]  to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.000 --> 01:48.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.000 --> 01:51.500]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.500 --> 01:56.500]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:56.500 --> 01:58.000]  So protect your rights.
[01:58.000 --> 02:01.500]  Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.500 --> 02:04.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.500 --> 02:19.500]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms
[02:19.500 --> 02:22.000]  around the Bill of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.000 --> 02:26.000]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms,
[02:26.000 --> 02:30.000]  arms that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.000 --> 02:33.500]  Get it? Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:33.500 --> 02:37.500]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.500 --> 02:38.500]  when he said,
[02:38.500 --> 02:43.500]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.500 --> 02:47.500]  one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America,
[02:47.500 --> 02:51.000]  but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:51.000 --> 03:14.500]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:21.000 --> 03:35.000]  Good evening.
[03:35.000 --> 03:43.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio, the 5th of January, this is Thursday, 5th of January, 2022.
[03:43.000 --> 03:47.000]  And we are starting out this evening without Randy.
[03:47.000 --> 03:54.000]  Randy is joining us here in a little bit, and we were looking forward to having a special guest this evening,
[03:54.000 --> 03:56.000]  but it looks like that's not happening either.
[03:56.000 --> 04:03.000]  So we're going to start out just speaking about timelines.
[04:03.000 --> 04:12.000]  And recently there have been a couple of people that I've been,
[04:12.000 --> 04:20.000]  I've been joining in on helping these people with their legal issues.
[04:20.000 --> 04:29.000]  And it's difficult when you're in the moment, you're up to your eyeballs in details and emotions,
[04:29.000 --> 04:32.000]  and you need somebody to help you.
[04:32.000 --> 04:42.000]  So you go to somebody and scratch and claw and try to get the person to understand,
[04:42.000 --> 04:47.000]  and what do you know, people are giving up on you.
[04:47.000 --> 04:49.000]  Well, you know, I'm not giving up on these people.
[04:49.000 --> 05:03.000]  Don't take it that way, but the idea here is to get people who want help to be more helpable.
[05:03.000 --> 05:12.000]  And one way to do that is by collecting as the person who's in need
[05:12.000 --> 05:20.000]  and just drowning in details and emotions, helping that person to understand what it is
[05:20.000 --> 05:28.000]  that needs to be communicated so that people can help you.
[05:28.000 --> 05:34.000]  Timelines are one way to do that, and I think it's a very good way to do that,
[05:34.000 --> 05:41.000]  because if you know what you're trying to capture, how are you documenting these things?
[05:41.000 --> 05:45.000]  I want a date, I want, you know, because you're just going to have a little list.
[05:45.000 --> 05:49.000]  It's going to be each entry on the list has a date and time,
[05:49.000 --> 05:59.000]  has some little simple notation of subject, verb, object, maybe mention of a document or a record,
[05:59.000 --> 06:04.000]  or what kind of hearing was it on January 17 coming up.
[06:04.000 --> 06:08.000]  There's going to be a hearing, this type of hearing.
[06:08.000 --> 06:16.000]  And to put these details into something that is easily communicable to whoever it is that wants to help,
[06:16.000 --> 06:25.000]  that's really very useful to cut through all of the fog, and it takes the emotion out of it.
[06:25.000 --> 06:30.000]  It helps you as the one who needs help.
[06:30.000 --> 06:38.000]  It helps you all through your future dealings with this particular saga,
[06:38.000 --> 06:48.000]  and it helps you communicate to people who want to help you, and it even helps you feel less oppressed,
[06:48.000 --> 06:56.000]  because your emotions have to sort of take a back seat to just the simple capturing of details.
[06:56.000 --> 07:04.000]  On this date, this happened. On this date, there was a hearing on this, and I didn't show up.
[07:04.000 --> 07:10.000]  Okay, now, you didn't show up, that's the only part that's necessary.
[07:10.000 --> 07:17.000]  You don't need to say, I didn't show up because I don't believe they have the authority over the beneficiary,
[07:17.000 --> 07:24.000]  and I'm the, whatever it is that you believe is your reasoning for not showing up, don't worry about all of that.
[07:24.000 --> 07:28.000]  That's not going to be needed in your timeline.
[07:28.000 --> 07:33.000]  We'll deal with that kind of thing as necessary,
[07:33.000 --> 07:38.000]  but something simple like that will help somebody who's looking at the situation to say,
[07:38.000 --> 07:43.000]  oh, okay, there was this, and then there was that, and then that's why they revoked the bond,
[07:43.000 --> 07:48.000]  and on this date, the bond was revoked, and then they issued an arrest warrant.
[07:48.000 --> 07:51.000]  Okay, now I'm starting to see how these pieces fit together
[07:51.000 --> 07:58.000]  and what we need to do to sort of unwrap this and get you free,
[07:58.000 --> 08:05.000]  get you to handle your situation the most effective way possible.
[08:05.000 --> 08:10.000]  Anyway, so that's each entry on the timeline would just be simple like that.
[08:10.000 --> 08:18.000]  Date and time, very brief, not even a tweet, just subject, verb, object, what document, what hearing,
[08:18.000 --> 08:23.000]  something like that, judge's name, lawyer's name, this person filed a motion to withdraw,
[08:23.000 --> 08:28.000]  I oppose the motion, date, that's just very simple.
[08:28.000 --> 08:33.000]  All right, and the sources, where are you getting this data from?
[08:33.000 --> 08:38.000]  Some of it's going to be from the storm of details that's swirling around in your mind
[08:38.000 --> 08:45.000]  because you've lived it, you know the fact set, so some of it comes from that, right?
[08:45.000 --> 08:52.000]  There are other sources that will help you to build a structure, a framework,
[08:52.000 --> 08:58.000]  a skeleton to which your memories can attach.
[08:58.000 --> 09:04.000]  For example, go to the court clerk.
[09:04.000 --> 09:10.000]  The court clerk, not the county clerk, sometimes people get those mixed up,
[09:10.000 --> 09:17.000]  go to the court clerk, the clerk of whichever court you're being held to stand and answer for something,
[09:17.000 --> 09:24.000]  go to that court and go to the clerk and ask to see the record.
[09:24.000 --> 09:31.000]  Inspecting the record is always free, so you can just go down there, take a look at things,
[09:31.000 --> 09:38.000]  and if you haven't done it already, you want to get a certified copy of the record,
[09:38.000 --> 09:42.000]  this is a situation where you think that they're maybe playing dirty
[09:42.000 --> 09:47.000]  and somebody might backdate something.
[09:47.000 --> 09:49.000]  Let's say that there's a charging instrument.
[09:49.000 --> 09:56.000]  You notice that they put in a document that is required by law to have a signature of a district attorney,
[09:56.000 --> 10:00.000]  for example, and you see that it is missing.
[10:00.000 --> 10:03.000]  Don't raise that flag right there.
[10:03.000 --> 10:08.000]  Ask for a certified copy and they'll charge you a few dollars for this.
[10:08.000 --> 10:11.000]  That part's not free.
[10:11.000 --> 10:20.000]  But then when you leave there, you have proof in your hot little hand that as of such and such a day,
[10:20.000 --> 10:25.000]  the charging instrument was fatally defective.
[10:25.000 --> 10:34.000]  And if they go then after that and they go try to fudge things and doctor the books,
[10:34.000 --> 10:39.000]  well then you've got proof of records tampering.
[10:39.000 --> 10:46.000]  So it's good to have a certified copy in that particular situation.
[10:46.000 --> 10:53.000]  But anyway, you have the court clerk that gives you a little stack of paper, however many there are,
[10:53.000 --> 11:00.000]  and each of those items is something that belongs on your timeline.
[11:00.000 --> 11:07.000]  When you're going to communicate to somebody about what you need help with, all of those documents, who sent it?
[11:07.000 --> 11:09.000]  Was it from you to the court?
[11:09.000 --> 11:12.000]  Was it from the other side to you?
[11:12.000 --> 11:17.000]  Was it you putting in a discovery request straight to the other side?
[11:17.000 --> 11:24.000]  Okay, they didn't answer within 30 days, so then you went to the court with a motion to compel.
[11:24.000 --> 11:33.000]  All of these documents flying around have dates attached to them and they can be placed neatly on your timeline.
[11:33.000 --> 11:35.000]  That really helps.
[11:35.000 --> 11:37.000]  So that's one source.
[11:37.000 --> 11:38.000]  Let's see.
[11:38.000 --> 11:42.000]  Another source would be video and audio recordings.
[11:42.000 --> 11:51.000]  You might have, let's say you were pulled over, so you recorded the whole incident with your cell phone.
[11:51.000 --> 12:01.000]  And as you play that back for yourself, you notice what was said or what was, oh, I thought I mentioned that, but actually I didn't.
[12:01.000 --> 12:10.000]  So you can make little notes on your timeline of the first time this happened or, oh, my goodness, did I request?
[12:10.000 --> 12:12.000]  I wanted to demand to see a magistrate.
[12:12.000 --> 12:14.000]  I don't know if I said that or not.
[12:14.000 --> 12:20.000]  So go back and listen to your recording, and these things can go onto your timeline.
[12:20.000 --> 12:22.000]  Well, then you've got physical papers.
[12:22.000 --> 12:29.000]  Something may have been mailed to you that may or may not be part of the court, official court record.
[12:29.000 --> 12:32.000]  It should be, but take a look at those.
[12:32.000 --> 12:36.000]  Also, your documents.
[12:36.000 --> 12:42.000]  On your computer file system, you have your own documents that you generated.
[12:42.000 --> 12:51.000]  And sometimes, I know it's hard to believe that sometimes you will send in a document and it just disappears,
[12:51.000 --> 12:56.000]  and they just don't actually end up filing what you served for filing.
[12:56.000 --> 13:02.000]  So take a look through your own file system and use that to add to your timeline.
[13:02.000 --> 13:09.000]  So in that situation, you would have an entry that says that you sent something, and how did you send it?
[13:09.000 --> 13:12.000]  Mail, fax, email, whatever.
[13:12.000 --> 13:20.000]  Then you would have another entry that says, on such and such a day, I went there and it was missing.
[13:20.000 --> 13:31.000]  So things like that are helpful to communicate a whole picture of what's going on in your situation.
[13:31.000 --> 13:43.000]  Man, I know that it's a really difficult thing when you're not really familiar with all of this legal stuff
[13:43.000 --> 13:50.000]  and you just know in your gut that something's wrong and you don't know which way to swim to find the shore.
[13:50.000 --> 13:56.000]  You can't touch the bottom, and you start to panic, and I get it.
[13:56.000 --> 13:59.000]  I've been there.
[13:59.000 --> 14:10.000]  As you remove your emotions from this, put your emotions on the back burner and deal methodically with the details.
[14:10.000 --> 14:18.000]  And documenting it will be an exercise that's helpful for you to be able to disconnect from those emotions,
[14:18.000 --> 14:25.000]  and it will be very helpful for you to be able to communicate to somebody else.
[14:25.000 --> 14:31.000]  All right, so I hope that is meaningful to you guys.
[14:31.000 --> 14:38.000]  I'm going to go ahead and open up the phone lines here, and there we go.
[14:38.000 --> 14:52.000]  And the number is 512-646-1984 if you'd like to call in, question about your own situation.
[14:52.000 --> 15:00.000]  The person who was going to be with us this evening, Lloyd Brunson, he may be still joining us tomorrow evening.
[15:00.000 --> 15:03.000]  There was a little confusion about that, so we'll see.
[15:03.000 --> 15:13.000]  But yeah, if you want to call in, 512-646-1984.
[15:13.000 --> 15:17.000]  All right, I see that we have already a couple of people jumping on the board,
[15:17.000 --> 15:27.000]  so we'll go straight to the callers. And Carrie from Pennsylvania, good evening.
[15:27.000 --> 15:29.000]  Good evening. Can you hear me?
[15:29.000 --> 15:31.000]  Yes, I do.
[15:31.000 --> 15:44.000]  Awesome. So it's been a couple months since I called, and so I'll try to just bring you up to date to where I'm at.
[15:44.000 --> 15:53.000]  At the time, I was concerned about a particular case that I wasn't getting a decision on.
[15:53.000 --> 16:03.000]  It was at the trial court level, finally got the decision, and it was horrible.
[16:03.000 --> 16:11.000]  And Randy suggested that I file a mandamus action against the judge, which I did.
[16:11.000 --> 16:21.000]  It gets filed right to the State Supreme Court because this was for a statutory appeal on the records request.
[16:21.000 --> 16:24.000]  Okay.
[16:24.000 --> 16:29.000]  So I have not heard anything on that mandamus.
[16:29.000 --> 16:37.000]  I did ask in the mandamus that the court put a stay on the proceedings below.
[16:37.000 --> 16:44.000]  But I have to continue and go along with an appeal, so I put my notice of appeal in.
[16:44.000 --> 16:52.000]  I just submitted my concise statement. But now I'm looking for an overall strategy.
[16:52.000 --> 16:55.000]  Okay. Well, that sounds like you're moving in the right direction.
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[19:52.000 --> 19:57.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton, I'm Brett Fountain,
[19:57.000 --> 20:01.000]  and we are speaking right now with Kerry in Pennsylvania.
[20:01.000 --> 20:10.000]  Kerry, when we went to sponsors, you were saying that you have been filing some records requests
[20:10.000 --> 20:17.000]  and that they have not been responsive, and you have filed in Pennsylvania.
[20:17.000 --> 20:22.000]  So, you go to the Supreme with the mandamus,
[20:22.000 --> 20:27.000]  and just for everybody that doesn't understand yet about a mandamus,
[20:27.000 --> 20:30.000]  you don't actually, you are not the one who issues the mandamus,
[20:30.000 --> 20:38.000]  you petition a higher court to command somebody else to obey the law.
[20:38.000 --> 20:43.000]  So, that's what you have done, you have gone to them and you have sent them a petition
[20:43.000 --> 20:51.000]  that they would issue a writ of mandamus to the people who are not following the law regarding records requests.
[20:51.000 --> 20:54.000]  Now, you were looking for strategy.
[20:54.000 --> 21:03.000]  Let's see, what all have you done so far, and what is your intended outcome here?
[21:03.000 --> 21:13.000]  Okay, so I have to back up a little bit, because I know timelines are important.
[21:13.000 --> 21:21.000]  The case that I was just explaining to you is my most recent one that I filed.
[21:21.000 --> 21:29.000]  So, this one is just leaving the trial court, going to appeal at the appellate court, but it's the fourth one.
[21:29.000 --> 21:37.000]  This all began back in 2017, and so I actually now have four cases open.
[21:37.000 --> 21:43.000]  The first one in 2017 was for my township solicitor invoices,
[21:43.000 --> 21:49.000]  and this is through the Pennsylvania Rights and Oh Law.
[21:49.000 --> 21:56.000]  And I was granted those records by this quasi-judicial agency,
[21:56.000 --> 22:03.000]  and then the township decided to appeal that decision to the trial court.
[22:03.000 --> 22:06.000]  What do you mean a quasi-judicial?
[22:06.000 --> 22:13.000]  So, Pennsylvania is unique, and I'm actually kind of been doing a survey to try to find, you know,
[22:13.000 --> 22:21.000]  how these are run through different states, but I believe Pennsylvania is the only one who has, you know,
[22:21.000 --> 22:29.000]  their version of FOIA, the right to know law, and they actually created an agency that is independent
[22:29.000 --> 22:37.000]  from the judiciary and the legislature that administers this right to know law.
[22:37.000 --> 22:48.000]  So, they have an executive director of the agency who hires attorneys to preside over these, you know, appeal processes.
[22:48.000 --> 22:53.000]  So, you go to your agency, local agency, and you, you know,
[22:53.000 --> 22:57.000]  you feel that you are not getting the records that you should have,
[22:57.000 --> 23:02.000]  and then you can appeal to this Office of Open Record.
[23:02.000 --> 23:13.000]  So, that first case in 2017 actually was just my second petition for reconsideration
[23:13.000 --> 23:16.000]  to the Supreme Court was just denied on that.
[23:16.000 --> 23:23.000]  And that's a very, very complicated case that I don't want to get into too much detail on,
[23:23.000 --> 23:32.000]  but all of them have a lot of due process problems, and basically the crux of it is
[23:32.000 --> 23:39.000]  I believe that the right to know law is unconstitutional because of my whole process through here.
[23:39.000 --> 23:44.000]  So, let me go to the second case then was filed in 2019.
[23:44.000 --> 23:49.000]  I was looking for a third-party attorney invoices.
[23:49.000 --> 23:54.000]  Again, I filed an appeal to the Office of Open Record.
[23:54.000 --> 24:00.000]  I was granted a majority of the record, but I appealed a couple of the decisions.
[24:00.000 --> 24:08.000]  One in particular was for the engagement letter with this third-party law firm.
[24:08.000 --> 24:15.000]  Well, that case I just got a decision two days ago from the appellate court
[24:15.000 --> 24:19.000]  affirming the trial court's decision.
[24:19.000 --> 24:21.000]  And that's another one.
[24:21.000 --> 24:22.000]  It's just a total mess.
[24:22.000 --> 24:25.000]  There's a lot of things going on with it.
[24:25.000 --> 24:27.000]  Third case was filed in 2019.
[24:27.000 --> 24:28.000]  Wait, wait.
[24:28.000 --> 24:34.000]  Before you go to the third one, they were affirming the trial court's decision to do what?
[24:34.000 --> 24:36.000]  To give it to you or to keep it from you?
[24:36.000 --> 24:40.000]  Yes, they ordered release of these records.
[24:40.000 --> 24:41.000]  Okay.
[24:41.000 --> 24:47.000]  And here's another reason why the right to know law is, procedurally it's just a mess.
[24:47.000 --> 24:56.000]  So, they issue an order and the agency has to release records within 30 days.
[24:56.000 --> 25:02.000]  Well, if I'm going to appeal, I also have to appeal within 30 days.
[25:02.000 --> 25:06.000]  So, if you're dealing with a situation where, you know,
[25:06.000 --> 25:12.000]  the majority of what the Office of Open Records said was I was okay with, you know,
[25:12.000 --> 25:16.000]  I'm not going to appeal the decision that they're giving me records,
[25:16.000 --> 25:21.000]  but I am appealing a couple of the records that I didn't get.
[25:21.000 --> 25:26.000]  So, I waited till the last minute on that 30-day deadline,
[25:26.000 --> 25:29.000]  and I never got anything from the township.
[25:29.000 --> 25:34.000]  I'm standing there in the courthouse checking my email, checking my phone.
[25:34.000 --> 25:38.000]  I go ahead and submit my appeal because I'm not getting anything.
[25:38.000 --> 25:43.000]  So, then when we get to court and have our hearing, you know,
[25:43.000 --> 25:49.000]  the township is trying to say that all those records are, the proceeding is stayed,
[25:49.000 --> 25:54.000]  and they don't have to release the records because I filed an appeal.
[25:54.000 --> 25:57.000]  Well, that's the truth.
[25:57.000 --> 25:59.000]  They had another 17 minutes.
[25:59.000 --> 26:00.000]  They could have done it.
[26:00.000 --> 26:03.000]  Why didn't they?
[26:03.000 --> 26:05.000]  You preempted them.
[26:05.000 --> 26:08.000]  Of course they were going to give you those records, but now they don't need to.
[26:08.000 --> 26:10.000]  Right.
[26:10.000 --> 26:11.000]  Yeah, exactly.
[26:11.000 --> 26:14.000]  And then, again, the exact same thing happened when after the hearing
[26:14.000 --> 26:20.000]  and the judge ruled on it, he actually overturned some of the records
[26:20.000 --> 26:24.000]  that I was granted, and that's not allowed.
[26:24.000 --> 26:25.000]  I was granted those records.
[26:25.000 --> 26:30.000]  I didn't appeal them, and the agency didn't appeal the decision.
[26:30.000 --> 26:34.000]  So he shouldn't have gone back and touched any of those records.
[26:34.000 --> 26:36.000]  Right.
[26:36.000 --> 26:42.000]  But that, so, but he said, okay, yes, township, you have to turn over those records,
[26:42.000 --> 26:44.000]  and you have 30 days.
[26:44.000 --> 26:45.000]  He did it again.
[26:45.000 --> 26:50.000]  He gave the same deadline that they had 30 days to release the records,
[26:50.000 --> 26:56.000]  and, of course, if I want to appeal his decision, I had to, I had 30 days also.
[26:56.000 --> 27:01.000]  Same thing, you get to the teleport, and the township is saying,
[27:01.000 --> 27:05.000]  well, the records are stayed because you filed an appeal.
[27:05.000 --> 27:10.000]  So two years, more than two years later, I still don't have...
[27:10.000 --> 27:12.000]  Whoa, two years.
[27:12.000 --> 27:14.000]  Yeah, yeah.
[27:14.000 --> 27:18.000]  So at the time when this judge was overturning
[27:18.000 --> 27:25.000]  and taking things away that had already been given through the various trial
[27:25.000 --> 27:28.000]  and the appeals, and now he's taking them away,
[27:28.000 --> 27:32.000]  was there anything that was happening, like were you filing also a judicial
[27:32.000 --> 27:39.000]  misconduct on him or any other kinds of things going on?
[27:39.000 --> 27:41.000]  No, I did not.
[27:41.000 --> 27:45.000]  And, you know, unfortunately, I didn't find jurisdictionary until October.
[27:45.000 --> 27:50.000]  About the same time I found you guys, and that was just thanks to a friend
[27:50.000 --> 27:54.000]  from the other side of the state who's kind of...
[27:54.000 --> 27:58.000]  We both have similar situations, and we started public records requests
[27:58.000 --> 28:01.000]  over elections.
[28:01.000 --> 28:03.000]  His is more recent.
[28:03.000 --> 28:06.000]  He's trying to investigate election fraud.
[28:06.000 --> 28:13.000]  Mine is from 2017 when I ran for office, and I'm trying to investigate
[28:13.000 --> 28:18.000]  because nobody else is investigating like there should be.
[28:18.000 --> 28:21.000]  So really it sounds like you do need those records.
[28:21.000 --> 28:28.000]  It's not just a matter of you can get them another way or you can get them later
[28:28.000 --> 28:34.000]  or at some point the time is up and it doesn't matter anymore.
[28:34.000 --> 28:36.000]  You still need those records.
[28:36.000 --> 28:38.000]  Is that what I'm hearing?
[28:38.000 --> 28:43.000]  Right, and now there's also just a lot of bullying and all kinds of stuff
[28:43.000 --> 28:45.000]  going on with the township.
[28:45.000 --> 28:52.000]  So, you know, and it's all mostly coming through the solicitor there.
[28:52.000 --> 28:58.000]  Have you considered pre-litigation discovery where you're suing somebody
[28:58.000 --> 29:04.000]  and you have discovery in advance?
[29:04.000 --> 29:09.000]  You don't get discovery in public records in Pennsylvania.
[29:09.000 --> 29:14.000]  This is again why I think this is just so unconstitutional.
[29:14.000 --> 29:17.000]  You have no discovery.
[29:17.000 --> 29:21.000]  The rules of civil procedure are not supposed to apply,
[29:21.000 --> 29:28.000]  but of course they apply them to pro se people when they want to.
[29:28.000 --> 29:30.000]  Right.
[29:30.000 --> 29:32.000]  It's for when they feel like it rules.
[29:32.000 --> 29:35.000]  Yeah, exactly, exactly.
[29:35.000 --> 29:38.000]  So there's a lot of problems because I don't get discovery.
[29:38.000 --> 29:41.000]  I don't get to file a lot of these motions and things,
[29:41.000 --> 29:46.000]  and the process is terrible.
[29:46.000 --> 29:51.000]  And it's even more complicated when you're trying to enforce a decision.
[29:51.000 --> 29:52.000]  Yeah.
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[33:11.000 --> 33:16.000]  Yes, Mr. Officer, you've taken the right to have.
[33:16.000 --> 33:21.000]  Won't you follow the law of the land?
[33:21.000 --> 33:24.000]  I don't have to stand.
[33:24.000 --> 33:29.000]  Your job is to protect the service.
[33:29.000 --> 33:31.000]  Captain, be out of these.
[33:31.000 --> 33:34.000]  Out of these, sir!
[33:34.000 --> 33:36.000]  Okay, we are back.
[33:36.000 --> 33:38.000]  This is the rule of law radio, Randy Kelton.
[33:38.000 --> 33:40.000]  I'm Brat Fountain.
[33:40.000 --> 33:44.000]  And we are speaking with Kerry in Pennsylvania.
[33:44.000 --> 33:48.000]  And Kerry, with regards to these records requests,
[33:48.000 --> 33:51.000]  it sounds like you might be at the point
[33:51.000 --> 33:54.000]  where you're going to go ahead and sue them.
[33:54.000 --> 34:00.000]  And I guess that's your call to see when you get to that point,
[34:00.000 --> 34:03.000]  but it sounds to me like that's where I would be trying to pull the trigger
[34:03.000 --> 34:05.000]  about that point is.
[34:05.000 --> 34:08.000]  But you want to take a look and see, do you want to do this in the state
[34:08.000 --> 34:10.000]  or in the Fed?
[34:10.000 --> 34:12.000]  Because if you go to the Fed,
[34:12.000 --> 34:21.000]  these state actors are outside their familiar group of people
[34:21.000 --> 34:24.000]  that they go golfing with and smoke cigars with.
[34:24.000 --> 34:30.000]  They're thrown into a different territory, right?
[34:30.000 --> 34:33.000]  They have a whole different, as Randy puts it,
[34:33.000 --> 34:37.000]  they're feeding out of a different trough.
[34:37.000 --> 34:43.000]  And if you take them to the Fed, then you would be,
[34:43.000 --> 34:45.000]  well, you can do criminal complaints in the Fed.
[34:45.000 --> 34:49.000]  That's kind of a lot easier, actually.
[34:49.000 --> 34:53.000]  I don't know if you're familiar with the process for criminal complaints
[34:53.000 --> 34:58.000]  in the Fed is you can even just print off,
[34:58.000 --> 35:04.000]  you can go to uscourts.gov, print off a one-page form,
[35:04.000 --> 35:07.000]  and it says it's AO-091.
[35:07.000 --> 35:08.000]  You print off the form.
[35:08.000 --> 35:10.000]  You fill it in.
[35:10.000 --> 35:11.000]  It's a PDF.
[35:11.000 --> 35:12.000]  It's even fillable.
[35:12.000 --> 35:14.000]  You can type in and then print it off.
[35:14.000 --> 35:16.000]  And you can give that to the FBI.
[35:16.000 --> 35:20.000]  You can go give that to a federal magistrate.
[35:20.000 --> 35:25.000]  And then you can actually even give it to a JP and have him sign it
[35:25.000 --> 35:29.000]  and then send it in the mail to a federal magistrate.
[35:29.000 --> 35:32.000]  And all that does, it's kind of like pulling the pin on a grenade.
[35:32.000 --> 35:35.000]  You toss it. You're done.
[35:35.000 --> 35:43.000]  You have had an effect, but there's no follow-up needed from you.
[35:43.000 --> 35:48.000]  Whereas if you set up a civil lawsuit, then you're paying filing fees
[35:48.000 --> 35:52.000]  and you're doing a process server, and there's the, you know,
[35:52.000 --> 35:54.000]  all that follow-up that goes with it.
[35:54.000 --> 35:57.000]  Have you ever sued anybody?
[35:57.000 --> 36:02.000]  Well, no, not in this way, no.
[36:02.000 --> 36:05.000]  You know, just these appeals, which, you know,
[36:05.000 --> 36:09.000]  you're still got filing fees and things like that.
[36:09.000 --> 36:12.000]  Yeah, so there's some of that that goes with the civil lawsuit,
[36:12.000 --> 36:13.000]  but there's not that much.
[36:13.000 --> 36:14.000]  It's not that big of a deal.
[36:14.000 --> 36:22.000]  In fact, for a lot of years, I thought that lawsuits were something out of reach.
[36:22.000 --> 36:28.000]  They were too complicated, and I would ask people, you know,
[36:28.000 --> 36:29.000]  what do I do in this situation?
[36:29.000 --> 36:30.000]  Well, just sue.
[36:30.000 --> 36:33.000]  And I would say, well, if only I knew how.
[36:33.000 --> 36:35.000]  I don't know how to sue.
[36:35.000 --> 36:40.000]  And people would say that they were going to help me or show me an example,
[36:40.000 --> 36:41.000]  and nobody ever did.
[36:41.000 --> 36:48.000]  Well, finally, I got a lawsuit together and made it happen,
[36:48.000 --> 36:52.000]  and it was not that complicated.
[36:52.000 --> 36:58.000]  So you file your document,
[36:58.000 --> 37:01.000]  just like you would file one of these appeals of something.
[37:01.000 --> 37:03.000]  You take it to the proper court.
[37:03.000 --> 37:05.000]  You pay a filing fee.
[37:05.000 --> 37:11.000]  You then get some documents from them that says that they have to answer,
[37:11.000 --> 37:15.000]  and you attach that to their copy.
[37:15.000 --> 37:19.000]  So the defendants will receive a copy of your complaint
[37:19.000 --> 37:25.000]  with this little document on top, summons from the court clerk,
[37:25.000 --> 37:28.000]  and the process server will take care of that for you
[37:28.000 --> 37:33.000]  and send it and take it to the different people that are your defendants.
[37:33.000 --> 37:38.000]  So at that point, you just wait for the 21 days.
[37:38.000 --> 37:43.000]  If they don't answer, then you should have a motion for default judgment,
[37:43.000 --> 37:48.000]  or if they do answer, probably they're going to do a motion to dismiss.
[37:48.000 --> 37:50.000]  12b6 is a typical thing.
[37:50.000 --> 37:57.000]  They try to say, oh, there's nothing to this and try to make it go away.
[37:57.000 --> 38:00.000]  But if you've put your document together well,
[38:00.000 --> 38:05.000]  then you can just go right on past that.
[38:05.000 --> 38:10.000]  Anyway, point being, you have some options here to consider.
[38:10.000 --> 38:13.000]  You have federal criminal complaints.
[38:13.000 --> 38:15.000]  You have state criminal complaints.
[38:15.000 --> 38:18.000]  You have federal lawsuit.
[38:18.000 --> 38:23.000]  You have state lawsuit.
[38:23.000 --> 38:29.000]  Well, I'm definitely more interested in federal because I live in Pennsylvania.
[38:29.000 --> 38:33.000]  The courts are so corrupt.
[38:33.000 --> 38:40.000]  I mean, even if you just round out my discussion on the four cases,
[38:40.000 --> 38:43.000]  the third one was filed in 2020,
[38:43.000 --> 38:46.000]  and that one is the only one that's not against my township.
[38:46.000 --> 38:52.000]  It was actually against the county for board of election meeting minutes.
[38:52.000 --> 38:55.000]  And that battle was mostly over the form.
[38:55.000 --> 38:59.000]  I asked for the original electronic version.
[38:59.000 --> 39:02.000]  That's pending at the Supreme Court right now,
[39:02.000 --> 39:09.000]  and I will probably let that go if I don't win it.
[39:09.000 --> 39:11.000]  But then there's the fourth case,
[39:11.000 --> 39:15.000]  which is the one I'm just appealing now out of the trial court.
[39:15.000 --> 39:19.000]  But when you look at what happened and when the decisions come out,
[39:19.000 --> 39:23.000]  they've been timing when these rulings come down
[39:23.000 --> 39:27.000]  so that they conflict with my other 30-day deadline.
[39:27.000 --> 39:28.000]  So...
[39:28.000 --> 39:30.000]  Wow.
[39:30.000 --> 39:32.000]  Yeah, check this out.
[39:32.000 --> 39:35.000]  So the present case at the trial court,
[39:35.000 --> 39:38.000]  that decision that I've been waiting and waiting on,
[39:38.000 --> 39:40.000]  that was my first call to you guys.
[39:40.000 --> 39:43.000]  I'm like, what do I do because this decision isn't coming out?
[39:43.000 --> 39:46.000]  So it came out on October 31st,
[39:46.000 --> 39:49.000]  the exact same day that my very first case,
[39:49.000 --> 39:54.000]  which was before the Supreme Court that's been going on since 2017,
[39:54.000 --> 39:58.000]  they both came out on the same day.
[39:58.000 --> 40:02.000]  And before that, when I had...
[40:02.000 --> 40:07.000]  when I was waiting for the Commonwealth opinion on that very first case,
[40:07.000 --> 40:10.000]  that decision came out from the Commonwealth Court
[40:10.000 --> 40:14.000]  exactly 30 days to the date of my daughter's wedding.
[40:14.000 --> 40:19.000]  And then they scheduled the hearing on the other one
[40:19.000 --> 40:22.000]  right after my daughter's wedding.
[40:22.000 --> 40:23.000]  There's...
[40:23.000 --> 40:25.000]  I mean, it's just constant.
[40:25.000 --> 40:32.000]  And so then the second case where I just got a decision from the appellate court,
[40:32.000 --> 40:40.000]  it came out within days of when I have to have my appeal for this current case.
[40:40.000 --> 40:42.000]  So now I have...
[40:42.000 --> 40:46.000]  if I were to appeal my Supreme Court decision
[40:46.000 --> 40:49.000]  in the first date to the U.S. Supreme Court,
[40:49.000 --> 40:51.000]  I have to do it by the end of the month.
[40:51.000 --> 40:58.000]  My second case would have to be appealed also to the state Supreme Court.
[40:58.000 --> 41:03.000]  And my current one,
[41:03.000 --> 41:09.000]  I will also have to have my brief done almost within a couple weeks.
[41:09.000 --> 41:12.000]  So they...
[41:12.000 --> 41:14.000]  You know, when I started all these, I'm like,
[41:14.000 --> 41:16.000]  well, you know, this is just public records requests.
[41:16.000 --> 41:20.000]  You just can't imagine that it's going to keep going on and on like it has.
[41:20.000 --> 41:24.000]  And then all of a sudden, I'm juggling all these cases
[41:24.000 --> 41:27.000]  and all these balls are in there and then the...
[41:27.000 --> 41:28.000]  Right.
[41:28.000 --> 41:29.000]  Yeah.
[41:29.000 --> 41:31.000]  It's pretty shocking, right?
[41:31.000 --> 41:32.000]  It is.
[41:32.000 --> 41:33.000]  It's shocking.
[41:33.000 --> 41:36.000]  Yesterday, I really kind of was in a daze
[41:36.000 --> 41:40.000]  because I just couldn't believe how this is all happening.
[41:40.000 --> 41:43.000]  And so now I'm stepping back and I'm like,
[41:43.000 --> 41:51.000]  well, it would just seem like a waste of time to appeal my second case to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court
[41:51.000 --> 41:53.000]  because I know it's going to happen.
[41:53.000 --> 41:56.000]  The same thing that keeps happening.
[41:56.000 --> 42:02.000]  And, you know, same thing with this other local court that I just appealed.
[42:02.000 --> 42:04.000]  I'm not going to get anywhere.
[42:04.000 --> 42:05.000]  Right.
[42:05.000 --> 42:09.000]  What this sounds like to me is you have state actors
[42:09.000 --> 42:13.000]  that are depriving you of your protected rights,
[42:13.000 --> 42:16.000]  the rights that are protected by the federal constitution,
[42:16.000 --> 42:23.000]  and it's clear, it's well-defined, it's objectively unreasonable behavior of theirs.
[42:23.000 --> 42:27.000]  It's not like, well, maybe, maybe, no, this is very clear.
[42:27.000 --> 42:29.000]  They're depriving you of your rights.
[42:29.000 --> 42:37.000]  You need to specify that right, call it a Title 42, U.S. Code 1983,
[42:37.000 --> 42:40.000]  and they are depriving you of your rights.
[42:40.000 --> 42:45.000]  So you are looking for some damages on that.
[42:45.000 --> 42:51.000]  Well, and when you talk about damages, so if I go to federal court,
[42:51.000 --> 42:59.000]  can you get damages from both if you do civil or criminal or only civil?
[42:59.000 --> 43:02.000]  You can't get damages for criminal.
[43:02.000 --> 43:07.000]  However, this Section 1983 is a very cool, special,
[43:07.000 --> 43:14.000]  unique animal in that it is based on crimes.
[43:14.000 --> 43:21.000]  So it's a civil action, but the basis of it is their crimes.
[43:21.000 --> 43:28.000]  So you're taking what would normally go into a state-level criminal complaint,
[43:28.000 --> 43:30.000]  and you're putting that in there as a count.
[43:30.000 --> 43:35.000]  So count one, count two, count three, as they did these different kinds of crimes.
[43:35.000 --> 43:39.000]  And for you, they'll all be relatively similar.
[43:39.000 --> 43:41.000]  I mean, you'll have a copy and paste with different dates
[43:41.000 --> 43:44.000]  and different people's names that they denied you in these records,
[43:44.000 --> 43:46.000]  but the counts will be similar.
[43:46.000 --> 43:49.000]  So you're getting, it's a civil action,
[43:49.000 --> 43:53.000]  but it's based on criminal behavior by state actors.
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[46:01.000 --> 46:20.000]  If you did not have any problem, where are you going to look for one?
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[47:08.000 --> 47:11.000]  This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton.
[47:11.000 --> 47:16.000]  I'm Brett Fountain, and we are speaking with Kerry in Pennsylvania.
[47:16.000 --> 47:20.000]  Kerry, we were just going over, right before the sponsors,
[47:20.000 --> 47:25.000]  we were going over the fact that it looks like you're at the point to sue,
[47:25.000 --> 47:30.000]  and it looks like the place that you're wanting to sue is in the Fed.
[47:30.000 --> 47:36.000]  And this 1983 suit, yes, it is a civil action, but it is based on the crimes
[47:36.000 --> 47:39.000]  that were committed by the state actors.
[47:39.000 --> 47:46.000]  So you need to show that these people who did these crimes were state actors.
[47:46.000 --> 47:48.000]  That's a key.
[47:48.000 --> 47:55.000]  And you have to show that what they did was objectively unreasonable.
[47:55.000 --> 48:00.000]  There's plenty of resources online that you can see what are all of the elements,
[48:00.000 --> 48:05.000]  the pieces that make this into a nice airtight 1983 suit,
[48:05.000 --> 48:07.000]  but it looks like you have the pieces in place.
[48:07.000 --> 48:12.000]  You just need to put them in the document.
[48:12.000 --> 48:13.000]  I do.
[48:13.000 --> 48:19.000]  And, you know, my first call to you guys, Randy, I mean, he was very intuitive,
[48:19.000 --> 48:26.000]  I guess, but he said it appears like the whole state is acting in concert
[48:26.000 --> 48:28.000]  to deny records.
[48:28.000 --> 48:32.000]  And I really do believe that now that I've gone through this process
[48:32.000 --> 48:35.000]  for six years of requests.
[48:35.000 --> 48:39.000]  And when I say that I think the right to know law is unconstitutional,
[48:39.000 --> 48:43.000]  I mean, that's not just a flip suggestion.
[48:43.000 --> 48:51.000]  I really have studied the law and there's no due process for the citizens
[48:51.000 --> 48:52.000]  to request records.
[48:52.000 --> 48:55.000]  You're treated the same as an agency.
[48:55.000 --> 49:01.000]  A requester, the definition of a requester can also be an agency.
[49:01.000 --> 49:07.000]  So basically the state through the statute put me at the same level as an agency.
[49:07.000 --> 49:12.000]  And the other thing is it's just unenforceable.
[49:12.000 --> 49:15.000]  There's absolutely nothing in the law.
[49:15.000 --> 49:19.000]  So if you have this appeal before this quasi-judicial board
[49:19.000 --> 49:24.000]  and they grant you all the records, which is my fourth case,
[49:24.000 --> 49:30.000]  which is the one I just am appealing, I was granted in full these records,
[49:30.000 --> 49:34.000]  solicitor invoices unredacted.
[49:34.000 --> 49:40.000]  But then you have a judge turn that around when you got back to...
[49:40.000 --> 49:42.000]  Yes, and it's the same judge.
[49:42.000 --> 49:46.000]  Every single time at the trial court, I get the same judge.
[49:46.000 --> 49:49.000]  I sure hope you're doing a judicial misconduct complaint
[49:49.000 --> 49:52.000]  every time he tries to pull something like that.
[49:52.000 --> 49:54.000]  Well, I'm just starting those now.
[49:54.000 --> 49:57.000]  I've been so in the weeds just trying to keep up with this,
[49:57.000 --> 50:01.000]  but now, like I said, I'm kind of stepping back and I'm like,
[50:01.000 --> 50:07.000]  I have to see more on the attack and I think I'm not going to pursue these.
[50:07.000 --> 50:10.000]  I kept feeling like I had to exhaust all my remedies,
[50:10.000 --> 50:16.000]  but I think I have enough evidence to show all the corruption that's been happening
[50:16.000 --> 50:23.000]  with my township and everything that I just need to start filing this federal complaint.
[50:23.000 --> 50:27.000]  Yeah, and you bring up an interesting point here.
[50:27.000 --> 50:33.000]  I don't think you were trying to, but there's a balance.
[50:33.000 --> 50:39.000]  There's a whole spectrum here of being super focused on one little detail
[50:39.000 --> 50:43.000]  and following it to the nth degree and appealing it and going all the way up the chain.
[50:43.000 --> 50:45.000]  And on the other side of the spectrum,
[50:45.000 --> 50:50.000]  there's chasing down every single problem that everyone does something wrong
[50:50.000 --> 50:54.000]  and every clerk and every person that touches the paper
[50:54.000 --> 50:56.000]  in the wrong kind of way that breaks the law,
[50:56.000 --> 51:01.000]  and you try to attack and hold everybody accountable for everything,
[51:01.000 --> 51:05.000]  and either one of those exhausts us.
[51:05.000 --> 51:10.000]  But there's somewhere in the middle that fits your particular situation,
[51:10.000 --> 51:12.000]  and we each have to find where that is.
[51:12.000 --> 51:16.000]  How many of these things are we going to let go and just say,
[51:16.000 --> 51:20.000]  that's not what I'm after right now, that doesn't get me to where I'm going,
[51:20.000 --> 51:22.000]  and hold people accountable.
[51:22.000 --> 51:30.000]  One thing that it's been good to hear from Randy is the type of remedies
[51:30.000 --> 51:35.000]  that are not written down for us in their rules.
[51:35.000 --> 51:38.000]  So they've got rules about how you do appeals and all that sort of thing,
[51:38.000 --> 51:40.000]  and everything's within the court,
[51:40.000 --> 51:43.000]  and they expect that judges and lawyers are going to handle all of this,
[51:43.000 --> 51:46.000]  and it's going to be inside that dotted line of the courtroom.
[51:46.000 --> 51:52.000]  But then we have other remedies like a bar grievance for an unethical lawyer
[51:52.000 --> 51:56.000]  or a judicial misconduct complaint for a corrupt judge,
[51:56.000 --> 52:04.000]  and you have these outside of the box, outside of the courtroom box,
[52:04.000 --> 52:10.000]  and you have to find where's the right place to do that balance.
[52:10.000 --> 52:12.000]  How many things are you going to hold them accountable for
[52:12.000 --> 52:18.000]  and to what width of your attack.
[52:18.000 --> 52:23.000]  So it looks like you're finding that right spot for you.
[52:23.000 --> 52:31.000]  Well, so I guess my question, I mean it sounds like you're sort of in agreement
[52:31.000 --> 52:36.000]  with me that it's just not even worth it to try to appeal any of these anymore
[52:36.000 --> 52:38.000]  because I'm not...
[52:38.000 --> 52:39.000]  Right, you've done that.
[52:39.000 --> 52:41.000]  You've been there after you've already gone to them,
[52:41.000 --> 52:45.000]  and they granted it to you, and now you come back home to the court,
[52:45.000 --> 52:49.000]  and they just override whatever came through the appeal system.
[52:49.000 --> 52:51.000]  What's the point of the appeal system?
[52:51.000 --> 52:53.000]  You've proved it to be ineffective.
[52:53.000 --> 52:55.000]  Now it's time to go to the fed.
[52:55.000 --> 52:57.000]  Yeah, yeah, okay.
[52:57.000 --> 52:58.000]  All right.
[52:58.000 --> 53:05.000]  Well, I needed to just talk to you guys and kind of have somebody
[53:05.000 --> 53:10.000]  at least make me feel like I'm not crazy because when you're in it like this
[53:10.000 --> 53:13.000]  and you get beaten down over and over, you just feel like,
[53:13.000 --> 53:18.000]  my gosh, am I just so stupid or so crazy that...
[53:18.000 --> 53:23.000]  No, you're not stupid, and they're trying to make you crazy,
[53:23.000 --> 53:26.000]  but you're doing great.
[53:26.000 --> 53:27.000]  You're doing great.
[53:27.000 --> 53:29.000]  Carrie, Randy has just joined us,
[53:29.000 --> 53:33.000]  and Randy, is there anything else that you think that fits this situation
[53:33.000 --> 53:35.000]  that might be...
[53:35.000 --> 53:40.000]  No, I haven't heard enough to understand the situation.
[53:40.000 --> 53:42.000]  I just got in.
[53:42.000 --> 53:43.000]  Right.
[53:43.000 --> 53:45.000]  I'm like the guy that was at this big party,
[53:45.000 --> 53:48.000]  and he sat on the windowsill, and it had been snowing,
[53:48.000 --> 53:53.000]  it was big snowbags, and somebody bumped him and he fell out of the window
[53:53.000 --> 53:56.000]  and landed in this snowbag, and somebody ran over
[53:56.000 --> 53:59.000]  and helped him out of the snowbag and said, what happened, what happened?
[53:59.000 --> 54:01.000]  And the guy said, I don't know.
[54:01.000 --> 54:05.000]  I just got here.
[54:05.000 --> 54:08.000]  Well, if I could just pick your brain for one more minute
[54:08.000 --> 54:13.000]  because I guess I'm still a little bit confused about whether to file civil,
[54:13.000 --> 54:20.000]  federal, or criminal, because again, I would like to get some fees back.
[54:20.000 --> 54:26.000]  I obviously have a lot of costs just from filing fees and paperwork
[54:26.000 --> 54:31.000]  and things like that, but in my first case that started in 2017,
[54:31.000 --> 54:33.000]  I did have an attorney.
[54:33.000 --> 54:35.000]  I actually had two attorneys.
[54:35.000 --> 54:40.000]  The first one is the one that really screwed things up to begin with.
[54:40.000 --> 54:44.000]  She accepted the discontinuance without my permission.
[54:44.000 --> 54:48.000]  Then later, the judge let her intervene in the case,
[54:48.000 --> 54:55.000]  but I got like $15,000 or more just in that case alone in legal fees
[54:55.000 --> 54:58.000]  and then all the other expenses from the other three.
[54:58.000 --> 55:07.000]  So I want to recoup costs, but I also, I think this law is unconstitutional,
[55:07.000 --> 55:11.000]  and I don't know how to make sure that that comes out in all of this
[55:11.000 --> 55:18.000]  because it's really just not about me and getting vindication
[55:18.000 --> 55:20.000]  or getting some money back.
[55:20.000 --> 55:24.000]  I see this happening to people on a regular basis.
[55:24.000 --> 55:29.000]  They're not getting public records, and there's no transparency in the state,
[55:29.000 --> 55:33.000]  and it's going to continue if somebody doesn't do something
[55:33.000 --> 55:38.000]  about this unconstitutional law.
[55:38.000 --> 55:44.000]  And I did put that in my mandamus, and in my appeal I just said,
[55:44.000 --> 55:49.000]  well, I argued about jurisdiction, and I also argued that this is unconstitutional,
[55:49.000 --> 55:56.000]  completely violates my substantive and procedural due process.
[55:56.000 --> 55:58.000]  Yeah, very good.
[55:58.000 --> 56:03.000]  And like you said, it lowers your position as a requester
[56:03.000 --> 56:09.000]  to the much lower position of an agency.
[56:09.000 --> 56:11.000]  Agency, yes, exactly.
[56:11.000 --> 56:16.000]  So do I file this civil?
[56:16.000 --> 56:20.000]  And there really is a lot of criminal activity here.
[56:20.000 --> 56:26.000]  In that second case I had, I did list Title 18.
[56:26.000 --> 56:31.000]  There's absolute criminal fraud going on in my current case,
[56:31.000 --> 56:38.000]  tampering with records, falsifying records, public records.
[56:38.000 --> 56:42.000]  Yeah, anything that you're seeing that's Title 18, that's definitely criminal.
[56:42.000 --> 56:51.000]  And I would encourage you to consider why do you feel like you need to do one or the other?
[56:51.000 --> 56:53.000]  Because you could do both.
[56:53.000 --> 56:56.000]  You can?
[56:56.000 --> 56:58.000]  Absolutely.
[56:58.000 --> 57:02.000]  Do you file them together as civil and federal?
[57:02.000 --> 57:06.000]  No, no, no, they're not in the same document, they're not part of the same case.
[57:06.000 --> 57:10.000]  They will have totally different paths.
[57:10.000 --> 57:18.000]  One has your name is on it as the plaintiff and so forth when you're suing,
[57:18.000 --> 57:24.000]  and that's the civil one, 1983, that would be a civil action, but it's based on those crimes.
[57:24.000 --> 57:33.000]  You can take those same crimes individually, and those are like grenades, each one on their own.
[57:33.000 --> 57:39.000]  They're referencing the crime, but they're not going to get you any damages.
[57:39.000 --> 57:42.000]  Again, it's just like a grenade.
[57:42.000 --> 57:49.000]  You pull the pen, you lob the paperwork, your part's over.
[57:49.000 --> 57:50.000]  In the federal?
[57:50.000 --> 57:52.000]  Yes.
[57:52.000 --> 57:54.000]  In the criminal case, I mean.
[57:54.000 --> 57:58.000]  Yeah, those are the crimes, and if a prosecutor picks it up,
[57:58.000 --> 58:04.000]  then it'll get a case number, you won't necessarily know anything about it.
[58:04.000 --> 58:06.000]  Okay.
[58:06.000 --> 58:10.000]  Well, is there anything else?
[58:10.000 --> 58:15.000]  Thank you so, so much for everything you do, I really appreciate you.
[58:15.000 --> 58:18.000]  Okay, well, I hope that's helpful.
[58:18.000 --> 58:21.000]  Thanks for calling in this evening, good talking with you.
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[01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  Thursday, the 5th of January, 2022.
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:22.000]  Randy Kelton.
[01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:27.000]  I'm Brat Fountain.
[01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:31.000]  Randy, did you have something else that you wanted to share
[01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.000]  before we go back to your callers?
[01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:39.000]  I'm having a little trouble connecting on, guys, and I was distracted.
[01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:44.000]  It's asking me for stuff I don't know.
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.000]  No, let's go back to the caller.
[01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.000]  I didn't have anything to address today.
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:52.000]  Okay.
[01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:53.000]  All right.
[01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:57.000]  So our next caller up is Chris, Kansas City, Missouri.
[01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.000]  Good evening, Chris.
[01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.000]  Hi.
[01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:02.000]  Hi, Randy.
[01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:03.000]  Hi, Brett.
[01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.000]  How are you guys doing?
[01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.000]  Doing great.
[01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:12.000]  I called in just a brief synopsis.
[01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.000]  I'm from Missouri.
[01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.000]  I was over across the state line.
[01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:23.000]  I stopped in Mission, Kansas at a Salvation Army store, basically to shop for a shirt.
[01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:28.000]  The store employees tried to force me to put a mask on, and I declined.
[01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.000]  I wouldn't put a mask on.
[01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.000]  And they called the police, immediately called the police.
[01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  The police showed up.
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  They arrested me, took me to jail.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.000]  And so I've been fighting them, pro se.
[01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  So they initiated a case without a proper charging document, and I filed several motions for this whole process.
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:59.000]  And so the City of Mission continued to move the case forward without a proper charging document.
[01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:09.000]  And eventually we went to trial, and they prosecuted me and found me guilty on two criminal counts of trespass and disorderly conduct.
[01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:15.000]  And so I'm on appeal to Johnson County, Kansas District Court.
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:27.000]  And the first hearing there, they actually tried to rearrange me at the district court, tried to rearrange me for the same charges, which we caught them.
[01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:34.000]  I filed an objection to the rearrangement, and I filed a motion to dismiss for lack of subject matter.
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  That got ignored, and they just, it wouldn't do anything.
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:46.000]  They just immediately set another hearing for me to go in front of another judge.
[01:06:46.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  Between that hearing, between the first hearing and the second hearing, I got a mandamus filed to sue them over the fact that they were not going to hold a proper appeal hearing, that they tried to rearrange me.
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:12.000]  And so the second hearing was November 16th of last year, 2022, and they scheduled a Zoom hearing.
[01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  I wasn't going to attend that, but I did attend it.
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:24.000]  And they refused to hear any of my motions to dismiss, any of my dispositive motions.
[01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:36.000]  And basically, the judge ordered the prosecutor to file an answer to my motions, but then he would not give me another hearing.
[01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:43.000]  He scheduled the next hearing, like it's March 27th, like he scheduled that like almost four and a half months away.
[01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.000]  Wow.
[01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  And so I believe that they're on the run.
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:53.000]  They got to be feeling some pressure because I've got all their crimes on record.
[01:07:53.000 --> 01:08:00.000]  I mean, everything that they've done, I've been able to get it on paper and get it filed onto the record.
[01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.000]  That's great, man.
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:06.000]  Yeah, the one who documents it wins, right?
[01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  This is a big documentation project every time that you go to deal with these people, and kudos to you for doing that diligently.
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  It's been a dog fight.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  It's been a real dog fight.
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:26.000]  And so at the second hearing, he gives it up till March.
[01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  So now I'm at a point where I'm coming up on my one-year statute of limitations for some of my claims,
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:38.000]  and I'm going to be filing a lawsuit for it here real soon.
[01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  And I'm trying to get this lawsuit put together.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:48.000]  And so I wanted to notice them and preserve the claims that had the one-year statute of limitations.
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:53.000]  But I want to bring malicious prosecution in at some point,
[01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:58.000]  but I can't do that until I get a favorable determination.
[01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  And so I'm thinking I need to go ahead and serve them.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:03.000]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:15.000]  Hasn't the Supreme Court, U.S. Supreme, ruled that you can sue without a favorable determination for due process violations?
[01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.000]  Brett, do you know about that case?
[01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  No, I don't.
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.000]  It's a relatively recent case.
[01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:31.000]  You used to have to have an adjudication in your favor, and they've recently ruled that that's not the case.
[01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:32.000]  I don't.
[01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.000]  Remember exactly what case it is right now.
[01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:42.000]  I'm a bit distracted today.
[01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:51.000]  So my one-year statute of limitations is up January 8th is when they arrested me of 2022,
[01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.000]  and I needed to get a notice of claims out.
[01:09:53.000 --> 01:10:02.000]  So I was wondering if on this notice of claim, do I need to put all the totality of all my claims on this notice of claim, or can I just?
[01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  Wait a minute.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:06.000]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:09.000]  You were falsely arrested.
[01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  Check your statute of limitations when it starts to run.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:23.000]  I think it's going to start to run when the case is adjudicated, because you're still bound at your liberty.
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  If you were illegally arrested, you're still illegally bound at your liberty.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.000]  It's not just when they threw you in jail.
[01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  As opposed to when it started.
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.000]  It's when it's over.
[01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  When they found me guilty at trial?
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:41.000]  Yes.
[01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  No.
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.000]  If you've appealed, it's still not over.
[01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:49.000]  Oh, so technically the statute of limitations hasn't started then.
[01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:54.000]  No, because you're still bound at your liberty.
[01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.000]  Okay.
[01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:06.000]  Well, I wanted to get them for the assault and battery had a one-year statute of limitations.
[01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:09.000]  That's not really a big part of what I'm claiming, but I'm going to bring it.
[01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:15.000]  Most everything is under my Section 1983 lawsuit.
[01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  But a couple of the state claims had a one-year statute of limitations.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:33.000]  So I thought I might need to give them a notice of claim to preserve those while I'm putting the rest of this together.
[01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:40.000]  I'm thinking, and my head hurts, too complicated.
[01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:46.000]  To be able to speak definitively, this is too complicated.
[01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  You're arrested, you're still bound at your liberty.
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:12:03.000]  In general, you can't sue them unless the case was adjudicated in your favor so they can't start statute of limitations at the time of rest
[01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  because all they have to do is delay the case past a year and then you lose your remedy.
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:12.000]  That's not going to be the case.
[01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  It's going to start to run when the case is finalized.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:20.000]  Okay.
[01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.000]  Well, I thought they were up to something.
[01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:25.000]  When they scheduled the case out four and a half months,
[01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:31.000]  I thought they were trying to push it past the statute of limitations so that they wouldn't get hit over the head.
[01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:35.000]  And I knew that they were up to something, and I thought that's what it was.
[01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:41.000]  Well, it's easy enough to fix that, accuse them of not just doing this to you but doing it to everybody else
[01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:45.000]  and claim an ongoing criminal enterprise.
[01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  Yeah.
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:57.000]  Well, municipal was bad, and I'm finding out the district is just as bad or worse.
[01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  You may need to drag them out to the feds.
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:05.000]  All of them are bad if you can't really put pressure on them.
[01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  You really have to do your homework.
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  It's getting frustrating.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  I'm having traffic cases here where courts don't bother to read the law.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.000]  The prosecutors don't read the pleadings.
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.000]  They just rule against everything out of hand at every turn,
[01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  and I'm trying to work up a way to really beat them up good
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:31.000]  without having to spend my whole life chasing a traffic ticket.
[01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:35.000]  Amen to that.
[01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:42.000]  So I'm looking at what I've been doing is filing criminal charges with the magistrate,
[01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:46.000]  and when he doesn't issue a warrant, I just sue him straight up for that.
[01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:54.000]  And once I've sued him, now he has an interest and I'm disqualified.
[01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  Yeah.
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:02.000]  And what about the Salvation Army store, the claims that I have on them?
[01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:03.000]  That's different.
[01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.000]  That's a civil petition.
[01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:08.000]  Just sue them straight up.
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:11.000]  Okay.
[01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  Yeah, they're likely to write you a check to get you to go away and leave them alone.
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.000]  Okay.
[01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:22.000]  If you sue them, they're going to have to hire lawyers,
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:25.000]  and when they hire lawyers, you bar grieve the lawyers.
[01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.000]  And the lawyers have a conniption and they'll hit the road
[01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.000]  and they'll hire more lawyers, and you hammer those
[01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  and then ask the judge to order mediation and say,
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:39.000]  come on, guys, write me a check and I'll stop beating up your lawyers.
[01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  So are the statutes of limitations told until the case is adjudicated,
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:48.000]  like with the state actors?
[01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.000]  Depends on the state.
[01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:56.000]  I want to say equitably it would have to be,
[01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:04.000]  but I have to read the limitation laws in your state and the case law supporting it.
[01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:11.000]  It would almost have to stay because all they have to do is deny you
[01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  and your right to a speedy trial and hold the trial out longer
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:20.000]  than the statute of limitations and you lose your remedy.
[01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.000]  Yeah.
[01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:33.000]  Well, I got a strong case, so I didn't want them to get off on any of this stuff.
[01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  Call a lawyer and say, I'm looking to hire a lawyer.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:42.000]  I only got $5,000 for a retainer.
[01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.000]  Can I still sue these guys?
[01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  Does the statute of limitations run while it's still being prosecuted?
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:51.000]  And they'll tell you right away and they'll tell them, okay, screw you,
[01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:57.000]  I'll hire you, you jerk, hang up.
[01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:06.000]  Hey, it's okay to lie to lawyers.
[01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.000]  That's funny.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.000]  $5,000 what?
[01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:16.000]  $5,000 rice, my friend.
[01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:21.000]  They'll give you free legal advice if they think you're going to get a retainer.
[01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.000]  Yeah.
[01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:27.000]  They say false imprisonment starts when the confinement ends,
[01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.000]  which would have been January 8th.
[01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:33.000]  No, no, you're still bound at your liberty.
[01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:36.000]  You were let out of jail, but you're still bound.
[01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.000]  You're still restricted in your liberty.
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:49.000]  He says that.
[01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:52.000]  I can't see the clock.
[01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.000]  We've got eight seconds.
[01:16:55.000 --> 01:17:01.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:36.000]  Well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.000]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your plan.
[01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:46.000]  You put the beer in my pocket, took the money from my hand.
[01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:51.000]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:19:51.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.000]  and I got my page up and working.
[01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  I am cooking.
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:35.000]  This is on this, the fifth day of January, 2020.
[01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.000]  What, Brett?
[01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:39.000]  2023.
[01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  Tomorrow, the Brunson case.
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:45.000]  Yes.
[01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.000]  I've done a lot of stuff about that.
[01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:53.000]  And I read the case.
[01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:56.000]  Somebody told me, you ought to get a hold of these guys
[01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  and let them know who you are.
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.000]  You can help them out.
[01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  Well, I read their case.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:06.000]  They don't need any help from me.
[01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:11.000]  That was one nice piece of work.
[01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:17.000]  If you guys want to know how a legal document should be constructed,
[01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:19.000]  get that case and read it.
[01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  I was impressed.
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.000]  This thing read really, really well.
[01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:34.000]  And they picked their claim very carefully.
[01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  They did not challenge the election.
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:45.000]  They challenged the failure on the legislature to perform their duty
[01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:53.000]  when one senator raises an opposition they're required to investigate.
[01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:58.000]  A hundred raised oppositions, and they voted not to do
[01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  what the law commanded them to do in violation of their oath of office,
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:09.000]  and they accused them of treason against the Constitution.
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:14.000]  And demanded that because of that, they should be removed from office
[01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  and never allowed to run for any public office again.
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:26.000]  And somebody posted a criticism of that saying, oh, blah, blah, blah,
[01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:32.000]  the Supreme only, they only hear about 1%.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  And actually, they hear about 2% of the search filed.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  And then somebody commented that these hearings they have,
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:45.000]  like the one I have tomorrow, that they only take 2% of those.
[01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.000]  No, that's not the case.
[01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  They hear 2% of the search filed with the court.
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:58.000]  The vast majority of them never get to one of these hearings.
[01:22:58.000 --> 01:22:59.000]  I filed two search.
[01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  There never was one of these hearings.
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:08.000]  They just refused to hear it out of hand, and that's what they do with 98%.
[01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  Then they get the ones that appear to have merit,
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:18.000]  and then they sit down and get a whole court to look at it.
[01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:25.000]  And all they're asking the court to do, they're not asking the court to change any law.
[01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  They're asking them to rule whether or not they had a case,
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  whether or not the trial court erred in dismissing it.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:40.000]  The Supreme Court's not going to rule on their petition.
[01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:48.000]  They're just going to rule on whether or not the dismissal of the petition was proper.
[01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:51.000]  Even that, that's worth saying.
[01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.000]  Oh, big deal.
[01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.000]  It forces them back into court.
[01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  And I saw an article by Huckabee, and he was telling them,
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.000]  guys, pay close attention.
[01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  This one's a big deal.
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  So whoever was it posted that rebuttal on Telegram hadn't read Huckabee's comments yet.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:27.000]  He was telling them, yo, you guys could wind up going bye-bye.
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:32.000]  This would be absolutely historic.
[01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:38.000]  Nothing like this has ever happened in the history of the United States.
[01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:47.000]  And guys, how are the Brunsons different than you and I?
[01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  They took a step.
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:51.000]  And that's all.
[01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:58.000]  They have no powers or abilities beyond what we have.
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.000]  Brent, why didn't you do that?
[01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  Don't you even ask me why I didn't do it, because I never thought of it.
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  But this is so remarkable that these guys actually figured it out.
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:25.000]  And then did an absolute wonderful job of constructing those documents.
[01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  Why have I never heard of these people before?
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:36.000]  We had talked about getting them on the show, and I would very much like to get them on the show.
[01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  There's nothing else to explain how they did this.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  Generally, I really like to read court rulings from the higher courts, especially the federal courts,
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:54.000]  because they are so well written.
[01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:57.000]  I don't always read them for the content.
[01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:01.000]  I read them for the technology.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:04.000]  These guys really do good work.
[01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:13.000]  And the Brunsons was the same kind of work I see from the Supreme when they write decisions.
[01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  OK, I'm using up everybody's time, but I just want everybody to know,
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:21.000]  I was really impressed with that, and I'm really optimistic about where it's going.
[01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:25.000]  Are we done with Chris?
[01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.000]  Yeah, we've still got Chris in Missouri.
[01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:29.000]  OK.
[01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:33.000]  Chris, you're on.
[01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.000]  Oh, let's see.
[01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.000]  Red on false imprisonment says that it starts when the confinement ends,
[01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:47.000]  and I was wondering if you could guide me to some case law in regards to what you were talking about, my liberty.
[01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:48.000]  No, no, I couldn't.
[01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:50.000]  I was speaking to equity.
[01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:55.000]  I don't have case law in Kansas.
[01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:56.000]  OK.
[01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:00.000]  How long do you have?
[01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:05.000]  Well, my one-year statute of limitations is up January 8, which is just three days away.
[01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:07.000]  That's fine.
[01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:17.000]  If Kansas is like every other state, you're required to give notice of tort 60 days before suit.
[01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:18.000]  OK.
[01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:24.000]  But then, statute of limitations is not a bar.
[01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:31.000]  Statute of limitations is an affirmative defense that must be pled.
[01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:34.000]  So go ahead and file the suit.
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:38.000]  Doesn't matter if it's crap or not, just file something.
[01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:39.000]  OK.
[01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:44.000]  Get something in the court before the sixth.
[01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:48.000]  And they're going to claim, why are you going to give a 60-day notice?
[01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:51.000]  And then you can ask the court to waive the 60-day notice.
[01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  And the court will refuse.
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:58.000]  And then you appeal that and push it all the way up to the Supreme.
[01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:00.000]  OK.
[01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:03.000]  And meanwhile, you've already gave them notice.
[01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:12.000]  Let me tell you about the first suit I filed for foreclosure.
[01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:19.000]  Steve Skidmore had two days to an eviction hearing.
[01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:20.000]  He said, I need a lawsuit.
[01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:21.000]  I'm still doing research.
[01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  I don't have time for research.
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:27.000]  So I went on the internet, pulled out a bunch of junk, threw it together in a suit, gave it to him.
[01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  He filed it and went to the JP, and the JP said, well, there's a state action on this.
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  I don't have any jurisdiction.
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:35.000]  Get out of my court.
[01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:38.000]  So he stopped the eviction hearing.
[01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:47.000]  And then the other side said, filed a response that effectively said, Your Honor, this suit's a piece of crap.
[01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.000]  And that took him 30 days.
[01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  And then the court took three months and come back and said, yeah, you're right.
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:53.000]  It's a piece of crap.
[01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:57.000]  We dismiss without prejudice, fix it.
[01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.000]  So they didn't dismiss it.
[01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  They just asked us to refile.
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.000]  So we filed another one.
[01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.000]  They said, it's a piece of crap.
[01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  Another 120 days.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.000]  And the third one stuck.
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:16.000]  Seven years later, he was still in court with them.
[01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:20.000]  Get something in before the time is up.
[01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:23.000]  Don't have to be good, just something.
[01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  You pass the limitation date.
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.000]  You get in before the limitation date.
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:35.000]  And then you can fix it later.
[01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  Make sense?
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:38.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:40.000]  Thanks, guys.
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:41.000]  Thank you.
[01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wuvila Radio.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  We've got one more caller and two segments.
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  I don't know if John will have enough content for the last two segments.
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:55.000]  I don't know.
[01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:56.000]  What do you think, John?
[01:29:56.000 --> 01:30:02.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:53.000]  and I think Lloyd heard me digging him up a while ago,
[01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:56.000]  and we have Lloyd Brunson on.
[01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:58.000]  I'm honored.
[01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  Yeah, well thank you.
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:04.000]  I'd like to hear you repeat that to my face, what you were saying.
[01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:05.000]  I'm just joking.
[01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:16.000]  Well, you know, I told people for a long time that I really like reading Supreme Court rulings.
[01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:22.000]  Not just the law, but their use of language and the writing.
[01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:27.000]  I'm a student of writing. They write extremely well.
[01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:33.000]  And when I read your lawsuit, it read like a Supreme Court decision.
[01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  Oh, wow, thank you.
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:42.000]  Not only was I amazed at how well it was written, but where'd you come up with that?
[01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:47.000]  I was chewing out Brett because he didn't think of it.
[01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:50.000]  Yeah, Brett, what's going on?
[01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:54.000]  I didn't think of it, but I'm old.
[01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:58.000]  That was perfect.
[01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:01.000]  Well, we did this as a team. My brother's a legalese guy.
[01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  My brother Darren, he's a legal guy, and then we got in there with my constitutional background
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  where I published concepts that had been over a total of 200 years in the Constitution.
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:15.000]  So together as a team, and then my brother Rolland's strategy, it just worked.
[01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  So it was miraculous. It was just miraculous.
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:20.000]  My brother says it just came to him like revelation.
[01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:24.000]  He was writer block, writer block, writer block, and he sat down just after praying.
[01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:26.000]  It just flowed.
[01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:29.000]  You guys could change the world as we know it.
[01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:31.000]  Beautiful.
[01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:34.000]  You may have already changed the world as we know it.
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:39.000]  I read an article by Huckabee, and he was telling all of these legislatures,
[01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:44.000]  guys, you better grab ahold of your britches. This could get ugly.
[01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  So whatever happens, you have scared the hell out of everybody.
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:55.000]  Well, more people are becoming aware of it.
[01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  We're pretty excited and feel very blessed that we're able to participate this way.
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  For those out there who haven't read the pleading,
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:10.000]  will you explain to everybody what you did in that pleading?
[01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:15.000]  Well, we basically, over two years ago, filed two lawsuits,
[01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:17.000]  one in federal court and one in state court.
[01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:21.000]  The reason we did two is because we knew it would be easier to get one of them
[01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:23.000]  quicker to the Supreme Court than the other.
[01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:27.000]  We knew one would get there sooner with different justices or judges.
[01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:31.000]  So mine was first. I'm the plaintiff and the first one, and that's still alive.
[01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:37.000]  My complaint that we filed first, the federal court actually ordered
[01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:41.000]  the U.S. Marshals Service to serve as someone to complain to Nancy Pelosi,
[01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.000]  Adam Schiff, Maxine Water, and about 80 others.
[01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:47.000]  And actually, there's going to be a lot more than that. That was just the first batch.
[01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:50.000]  And then that was March 31st, 2021.
[01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  The next day, the court canceled the service, and they canceled my complaint.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:58.000]  And they can't do that.
[01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:03.000]  That's a pretty flagrant violation of my Constitutionally protected right to be processed
[01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:05.000]  and petitioned for redress of grievances.
[01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:09.000]  So we took the federal court to task.
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  We took them to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals with a complaint.
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:15.000]  It's called a petition for redress of mandamus.
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.000]  The 10th Circuit Court didn't back us up.
[01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:20.000]  They just kind of said, ah, they're not canceling you out.
[01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:23.000]  It's just going through procedural stuff.
[01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:25.000]  It's like, no, we don't accept that.
[01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  So we took both courts to state court, sued them in state court.
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:31.000]  After battling there, that's a long story.
[01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:35.000]  It's an interesting story, but I won't get into the details.
[01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  After we battled there and lost, we really actually won,
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:43.000]  because a few weeks after we lost, the federal court reversed its decision,
[01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:50.000]  not only allowed me to file my case, but actually ordered it to be filed,
[01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:54.000]  filed it for me, and they ordered the clerk of the court to issue,
[01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  so we're going to need to get summonses.
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  Now, that case is still alive,
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  and it's identical to the one that's in the Supreme Court right now.
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:02.000]  That's still in federal court, alive and well,
[01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  but we can push forward if we need to.
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:09.000]  So meanwhile, the second case that's at the Supreme Court started in state court.
[01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:11.000]  My brother Roland said, I'm going to start this in state court.
[01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:15.000]  If we had hired attorneys, they would have not allowed us to go to state or federal court.
[01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  They would have said, we've got to get permission from the sergeant in ours,
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:21.000]  we've got to get a waiver, all this jumping through hoops,
[01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  and then they would have had us go to a special claims court.
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  So we didn't want to do it that way.
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:31.000]  We wanted to do it our way, and that was to exercise our constantly protected right
[01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:33.000]  to sue in any court we choose.
[01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:37.000]  And so that's what we did, went to state court with the second lawsuit,
[01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:40.000]  and then it was removed to federal court, which was fine with us,
[01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:42.000]  and it was dismissed, which was fine,
[01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.000]  because we just wanted decisions to happen quickly
[01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:46.000]  so we could appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court.
[01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:50.000]  And then it got stuck in the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals for four months.
[01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:51.000]  They wouldn't do anything.
[01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:54.000]  Three judges at the 10th Circuit, the circuit court, three judges decided,
[01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:55.000]  and they weren't doing anything.
[01:41:55.000 --> 01:42:00.000]  So we did some digging and found that there was a way to bypass the 10th Circuit Court,
[01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:03.000]  and that is if we can convince the U.S. Supreme Court
[01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:06.000]  that this is a national emergency petition,
[01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:10.000]  if we can convince them of that, they will allow us to bypass the 10th Circuit.
[01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:15.000]  So we sent that off to them and waited to see what was going to happen.
[01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:19.000]  About five days later, we received a phone call from the clerk's office.
[01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.000]  The clerk of the Supreme Court is not a justice clerk.
[01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:26.000]  The clerk is Scott Sessions Harris, and for 11 years he was the attorney
[01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:28.000]  for the United States Supreme Court.
[01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:32.000]  He's the gatekeeper, and he reviews and he rejects a lot.
[01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:36.000]  And a case analyst assigned to our case called us and told us
[01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:41.000]  that they had decided to accept our case under Rule 11,
[01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:45.000]  our petition under Rule 11, bypassing the 10th Circuit.
[01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.000]  In other words, they had decided that what we were presenting to them
[01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:51.000]  was a national emergency.
[01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:56.000]  And then they asked us to include documents that were not required,
[01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:59.000]  and then they asked us how soon we could get it to them.
[01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:02.000]  So we went to work and put in what they wanted,
[01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:05.000]  and just before we were ready to have it perfect bound,
[01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.000]  because that's what they want,
[01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:10.000]  the Supreme Court wants it perfect bound like a book.
[01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:14.000]  Just as we were to have it bound, the 10th Circuit makes a decision.
[01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:17.000]  The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver makes the decision,
[01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:21.000]  you know, upholding the dismissal.
[01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:25.000]  And so we're thinking, okay, well, now we don't even need that argument
[01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:28.000]  that it's a national emergency, even though it is.
[01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:30.000]  We don't need that.
[01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:33.000]  Should we call the court and see if we can just get it from the way it is
[01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  or see what they say?
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.000]  Do I need to take a break?
[01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  Yes, hang on.
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:41.000]  Randy Kelson, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:46.000]  And John, we were going to go to you, but we had Lloyd Brunson.
[01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:49.000]  So who do we do, John or Lloyd, John or Lloyd?
[01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:50.000]  Sorry, John.
[01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:52.000]  This is the first time to call her.
[01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:54.000]  That's right.
[01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.000]  Ready to count on Brett Fountain?
[01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:23.000]  We'll be right back.
[01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:27.000]  I'm going to throw away these yucky cookies in the trash.
[01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:33.000]  I click control, shift, delete, and then scroll down to cookies and clear them.
[01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:35.000]  Bye-bye, yucky cookies.
[01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:39.000]  Now I go to logosradionetwork.com and I click on the Amazon box
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[01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:49.000]  New cookies for me?
[01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:51.000]  Consider it an early Christmas present.
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[01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.000]  and I give a little present to this radio network, too.
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[01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:23.000]  Hello. Oh, man, she in jail. She got broken. Oh, man, I'm broken.
[01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:45.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:48.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:51.000]  And you guys missed the good part that went on on the break.
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.000]  The good stuff always goes on on the break.
[01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  Okay, we're going to ask that question again.
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:58.000]  Well, I have asked Lloyd.
[01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:01.000]  I heard Lloyd was saying that he went to the district court,
[01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:06.000]  and then they canceled the case, which I never heard of,
[01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:11.000]  and he took that to the circuit, and then they didn't fix it,
[01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:14.000]  so he's suing both the federal district court
[01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:18.000]  and the federal circuit court in state court.
[01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:23.000]  And I asked, Lloyd, what did you sue them for?
[01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:26.000]  We sued them for $5.8 billion because they blocked my lawsuit,
[01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:30.000]  and that was the monetary value of the lawsuit was $2.9 billion,
[01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.000]  and when anyone interferes with a lawsuit,
[01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:35.000]  they can be liable for the monetary amounts asked for
[01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:41.000]  in the release of the lawsuit, regardless of the merits of the case.
[01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:44.000]  So it was a $5.8 billion lawsuit,
[01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:47.000]  and the U.S. attorneys were defending the federal court of Utah
[01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  and the Tents of the Court of Appeals.
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:51.000]  Those were the defendants,
[01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:58.000]  and the U.S. attorneys actually submitted themselves to the judge
[01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.000]  and to play ball with us,
[01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:03.000]  so we filed a full sentencing judgment motion against the two federal courts
[01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:06.000]  because they admitted wrongdoing in the case that's now at the Supreme Court,
[01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  my brother's case,
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:11.000]  and it's interesting, the U.S. attorneys actually, with pleadings,
[01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:14.000]  asked the judge to please make a decision
[01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:19.000]  and then asked for an extension to file an opposition to the full sentencing judgment motion.
[01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  So that was a $5.8 billion case there, and we lost,
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:27.000]  but we actually won because a few weeks after we lost,
[01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  the federal court notified us that they had decided to reverse the decision,
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:34.000]  and they not only allowed us to file my case, but they filed it for me,
[01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:38.000]  and then they ordered the clerk of the court to issue 388 summonses,
[01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:42.000]  which they did, and that case is still alive and well in the federal court,
[01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:47.000]  and we will move that forward at the right time when we feel like we need to do that.
[01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:49.000]  So meanwhile, my brother's case starts in state court,
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.000]  the U.S. attorneys move it to federal court,
[01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:54.000]  then to the 10th Circuit, and they sit on it,
[01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:58.000]  and I was talking earlier about how the Supreme Court was working with us,
[01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:01.000]  asking us to add documents to the case,
[01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:03.000]  and it was under Rule 11 that they accepted,
[01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  which means they accepted it as a national emergency
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:08.000]  because the 10th Circuit wouldn't make a decision,
[01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:10.000]  but then the 10th Circuit made a decision,
[01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  so then we talked to the Supreme Court,
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:15.000]  and they said, go ahead and get it to us without that additional information.
[01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:18.000]  It happened with Rule 11,
[01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:22.000]  and we got it to them a week earlier than they...
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:24.000]  we told them to take about two weeks.
[01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:26.000]  They wanted us to get it to them as soon as possible.
[01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:29.000]  We said it would take about two weeks, and they said, can you get it to us sooner?
[01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  And we got it done a week early,
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.000]  so we sent it on a Thursday, they got it on a Friday,
[01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:35.000]  we documented it on Monday,
[01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:39.000]  and then they notified the U.S. attorneys that they had about 30 days to file an opposition,
[01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  which they didn't do until the very last minute.
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:45.000]  The U.S. attorneys, we look at the doc at 23rd of November,
[01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.000]  and the U.S. attorneys are no longer the defendants of the counsel,
[01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:52.000]  and that they have a new attorney representing them.
[01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:54.000]  They have a new attorney representing them,
[01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:56.000]  and that's the United States Solicitor General, who's the preloader,
[01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:59.000]  and she not only... she doesn't ask for an extension,
[01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:03.000]  she doesn't file an opposition, but instead she files the waiver form,
[01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:07.000]  but the Supreme Court asked us to get to the U.S. attorneys, which we did.
[01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:11.000]  She files this waiver waiving their right to oppose it before conference,
[01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:17.000]  so she waived the right of her defendants to oppose this with filing an opposition.
[01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:20.000]  She waived the right to file an opposition prior to conference,
[01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  so then it went and got docated for conference, which is tomorrow.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:29.000]  Wow.
[01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:31.000]  What's going on here?
[01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  There's something... this is politics, this is not law.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:39.000]  Now, I was talking... I was on the air today with Roger Stone,
[01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:42.000]  and there's a thing going around showing a statement from Donald Trump
[01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:47.000]  saying that he was... I guess he was nominated by Gates.
[01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  I forgot who it was.
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:53.000]  U.S. House member nominated him to be the Speaker of the House,
[01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:58.000]  and there's this thing going around showing that Donald Trump has accepted that offer
[01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:03.000]  if there is an honest election, honest vote tomorrow,
[01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:08.000]  and so Roger Stone on the phone verified that he had talked to Donald Trump about that
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:12.000]  and that it was true, he had accepted that, and so that could happen tomorrow.
[01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:15.000]  We could have a new Speaker of the House tomorrow, Donald Trump.
[01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:19.000]  Now, the Supreme Court has the power to remove...
[01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:24.000]  With this case, they have the power under Rule 11 to remove a sitting president,
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:30.000]  vice president, and 385 members of the U.S. House and Senate, okay?
[01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:36.000]  So they could... It's feasible that Donald Trump being the Speaker of the House
[01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:41.000]  could replace within the next few days, Joe Biden.
[01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:47.000]  Wow. This is pretty incredible.
[01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  You may have just changed the world as we know it.
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  From our listeners, we're ordinary people out here
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:02.000]  trying to do the best we can in a difficult world, and I keep telling everybody,
[01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:08.000]  when you walk into a courthouse, you're the baddest motor scooter in the building,
[01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:10.000]  and there's only one reason.
[01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:15.000]  You're not a judge, you're not a prosecutor, a bailiff, a clerk.
[01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  All those are public servants.
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:25.000]  They're the servants, you're the master, and you guys have just demonstrated mastery.
[01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:28.000]  Everybody should look at this.
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:33.000]  Anybody could have done what the Brunsons just did.
[01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:35.000]  For me, this is incredible.
[01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:39.000]  Win, lose, or draw, you've changed the world as we know it.
[01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:43.000]  Can I invite people to go to the website where it has a lot more information
[01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:46.000]  that shows all the records of the cases, updates it'll show,
[01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:51.000]  and we'll send the updates of what's happened, the case, 7discovery.com.
[01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:52.000]  Are you sure of that?
[01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  Email a link to Randy at Wheel of Love Radio, and anybody who wants it,
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:00.000]  email me, I'll give it to you.
[01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:03.000]  Great.
[01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:07.000]  Everybody needs to study this.
[01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:11.000]  We're all sitting here witnessing history.
[01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:16.000]  You know, I filed a criminal complaint against the governor over his executive order,
[01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:20.000]  his COVID executive orders, and he removed them all.
[01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:23.000]  He rescinded all of them immediately.
[01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:30.000]  I looked at that, and I looked at that and said, that wasn't because of my complaint.
[01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:34.000]  He used my complaint as possible deniability.
[01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:39.000]  I gave him the excuse to do what he wanted to do.
[01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:40.000]  There you go.
[01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:41.000]  Right.
[01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:46.000]  This sounds like you opened the door for the Supreme
[01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:50.000]  to give them opportunity to do what they wanted to do.
[01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:53.000]  Yes, and we think they're going to do the right thing.
[01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:58.000]  There's been a more radical case than this, a more controversial case than this,
[01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  of cases that had to do with putting Trump back in office,
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  and three of the justices voted in favor of those.
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  The three that voted against them were Trump appointed justices.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:12.000]  Now, all six of these conservative justices have proven that they could make the right decision here
[01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:18.000]  with Will versus Wade and other constitutional cases.
[01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:19.000]  Well, I'm excited.
[01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:22.000]  I really need to get you in contact with Pastor Massad.
[01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:30.000]  I do a show with him, and he's concerned that the country's going down the drain,
[01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  and no, the Brunsons are here.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:41.000]  You guys need black cowboy hats.
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:49.000]  The thing I find most remarkable is that you got past all the presuppositions,
[01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:52.000]  all the misconceptions, all the crap.
[01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:56.000]  You went right straight to the heart of the matter.
[01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:57.000]  Right.
[01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:02.000]  It's about the Constitution and the oath of office and the rights protected therein,
[01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:04.000]  and I think we pricked their consciences.
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:13.000]  We've been told that the complaint and the petition are their exposés on the Constitution and the oath of office.
[01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.000]  I'm going to have to read it two or three times.
[01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  That is really a nice piece of work.
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:26.000]  If anybody out there wants to know how to write legal documents, read that petition.
[01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:27.000]  Thank you.
[01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:32.000]  It is extremely well done, and that's not for you.
[01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  That's for everybody else out there.
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:35.000]  That's an example of what they need.
[01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:46.000]  I spent 40 years to get that kind of skill, and I don't have it yet.
[01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:49.000]  So I'm going to study it.
[01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:52.000]  It's my brother Darren's the genius behind it.
[01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:59.000]  We contributed our constitutional stuff and other parts of the team, the three Brunson brothers,
[01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:03.000]  but he's been representing himself in state and federal court,
[01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:08.000]  and he has successfully doctored two petitions of the Supreme Court over the last 10 to 15 years.
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:15.000]  So he's our legal hero here with us.
[01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  Well, that is wonderful, and we've only got a couple minutes left,
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:22.000]  but I definitely want you to come back tomorrow.
[01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:23.000]  Let's do it.
[01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:35.000]  We re-record all this, and we can get you a good archive, a good presentation that we can put together.
[01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:41.000]  We've got some guys on Telegram that record these shows, and then they take out all of the ads,
[01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:45.000]  so we can get you a copy of it, a recording of it,
[01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  without absent the ads that you can distribute to people who want to know about what you're doing.
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:55.000]  So we've got a four-hour show tomorrow.
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:04.000]  We'll have plenty of time for a full presentation, and then take questions and comments.
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.000]  We might even take one from John if he calls.
[01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:10.000]  Sure.
[01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:13.000]  Ask him if he knows how many amendments there are.
[01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:17.000]  If he can answer that question, let him on.
[01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  Okay, John, we're having fun picking on you.
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:22.000]  I've unmuted you.
[01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:24.000]  You can have the last word.
[01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:27.000]  Have you read the Brunson case, John?
[01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:28.000]  No, I haven't.
[01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:35.000]  Just repeat in one sentence the wonderful work that they just did with regard to Trump.
[01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:38.000]  Just repeat it quickly for everybody to hear.
[01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:41.000]  He's being nominated for Speaker of the House,
[01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:48.000]  and if the Brunson case gets the president and the vice president removed from office,
[01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  Trump becomes president.
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  That's fantastic.
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:58:01.000]  You are a hero, and this lover is a hero.
[01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  Okay, we are out of time.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:04.000]  Well, thank you.
[01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  That was great.
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:09.000]  You should let him on all the time.
[01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:14.000]  Yeah, we just bring John on to pick on him.
[01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:17.000]  I'm looking forward to tomorrow night.
[01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:20.000]  Okay, send me some information.
[01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:24.000]  Text me whatever you need to do so I can make sure I have the right number.
[01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:26.000]  Okay, I'm going to want to talk to you.
[01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:29.000]  I'm going to want to set a talking point so I can keep things moving along,
[01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  but we'll do this in email.
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:33.000]  Thank you all for listening.
[01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:39.000]  We'll be back tomorrow night with our four-hour info marathon.
[01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  Brett, you've got ten seconds.
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:44.000]  Do you want to push somebody off the cliff?
[01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:46.000]  Nah, we're not off the cliff.
[01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:50.000]  You've got to come on and talk about everything.
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