[00:00.000 --> 00:05.500]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.500 --> 00:09.500]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.500 --> 00:11.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.000 --> 00:16.500]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.500 --> 00:18.500]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.500 --> 00:22.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.000 --> 00:26.500]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.500 --> 00:32.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.500]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.500 --> 00:47.500]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.500 --> 00:51.000]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.000 --> 00:54.000]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.000 --> 01:02.500]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, and R for religion.
[01:02.500 --> 01:08.000]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press, assembly, and religion.
[01:08.000 --> 01:10.500]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.500 --> 01:14.000]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.000 --> 01:17.000]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government,
[01:17.000 --> 01:21.000]  we can spell out the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:21.000 --> 01:31.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.000 --> 01:34.500]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.500 --> 01:38.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.000 --> 01:40.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:40.000 --> 01:46.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.000 --> 01:48.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.000 --> 01:51.500]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.500 --> 01:56.500]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.500 --> 01:58.000]  So protect your rights.
[01:58.000 --> 02:02.000]  Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[02:02.000 --> 02:04.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.000 --> 02:22.000]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.000 --> 02:28.000]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms that embrace our freedoms
[02:28.000 --> 02:30.000]  and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.000 --> 02:34.000]  Get it? Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:34.000 --> 02:38.000]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captioned the spirit of the Second Amendment so well when he said,
[02:38.000 --> 02:45.000]  the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny,
[02:45.000 --> 02:51.000]  which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:51.000 --> 03:09.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:21.000 --> 03:28.000]  Okay. Howdy, howdy.
[03:28.000 --> 03:36.000]  Randy Calvin, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio on this Friday, the second day of December, 2022.
[03:36.000 --> 03:41.000]  Welcome to our four-hour info marathon.
[03:41.000 --> 03:45.000]  I'm going to start out by turning the phone lines on.
[03:45.000 --> 03:49.000]  So if you have a question or a comment, give us a call.
[03:49.000 --> 03:51.000]  We'll be taking your calls all night.
[03:51.000 --> 03:56.000]  And we're going to start out with Brett talking about a motion he filed.
[03:56.000 --> 03:58.000]  Brett, was this with the federal court?
[03:58.000 --> 03:59.000]  Yes.
[03:59.000 --> 04:03.000]  I think it was. Okay, good. Tell us about the motion and what happened.
[04:03.000 --> 04:12.000]  Well, I've got a lawsuit in the federal court right now, and it was kind of a pain to get it there.
[04:12.000 --> 04:19.000]  The first round, I went and took it up there. They had a whole bunch of armed guards coming up around me
[04:19.000 --> 04:25.000]  and acting like I was, you know, a criminal.
[04:25.000 --> 04:31.000]  And it all came down to the fact that I wasn't an attorney.
[04:31.000 --> 04:36.000]  And I wanted to come in there and I wanted to see the district clerk.
[04:36.000 --> 04:39.000]  I had some paperwork to file.
[04:39.000 --> 04:49.000]  But because I wasn't an attorney and because I had a cell phone with me, I wasn't allowed in.
[04:49.000 --> 04:53.000]  And I didn't think that was right.
[04:53.000 --> 04:58.000]  You know, I couldn't go back out to the car and leave it in the car because I had been dropped off.
[04:58.000 --> 05:03.000]  And I walked in there. I didn't have any way to go put my cell phone somewhere.
[05:03.000 --> 05:09.000]  Well, that's just a crazy situation that here I am, an American,
[05:09.000 --> 05:15.000]  and I'm not allowed in the federal courthouse because I'm not an attorney.
[05:15.000 --> 05:18.000]  Attorneys they would let in.
[05:18.000 --> 05:23.000]  And that was one of their first questions was if I'm an attorney.
[05:23.000 --> 05:26.000]  And then they wanted to know, do I have a cell phone?
[05:26.000 --> 05:31.000]  Well, that didn't sit well with me, right?
[05:31.000 --> 05:36.000]  So I wrote up a Bivens suit, a lawsuit against all these federal actors
[05:36.000 --> 05:44.000]  who were depriving me of my constitutionally protected rights.
[05:44.000 --> 05:45.000]  But then I didn't file that suit.
[05:45.000 --> 05:50.000]  I said, let me just sit on this for a little bit because I've got another suit that I care more about
[05:50.000 --> 05:52.000]  that I need to get in there.
[05:52.000 --> 05:56.000]  So I went ahead and left my cell phone in the car next time.
[05:56.000 --> 06:01.000]  And I went ahead and went inside.
[06:01.000 --> 06:04.000]  And, you know, they remember me.
[06:04.000 --> 06:07.000]  They had all these people coming around me like, I don't know,
[06:07.000 --> 06:15.000]  seven, eight guys all in their body armor and deadly weapons all over them.
[06:15.000 --> 06:22.000]  And they stand in these awkward angles surrounding so that you can't see all of them at any given time.
[06:22.000 --> 06:27.000]  It feels really strange, like, I hate that.
[06:27.000 --> 06:31.000]  Anyway, yeah, they didn't want to let me in.
[06:31.000 --> 06:40.000]  I'm saying, will you please respect my right to be secure in my person and my effects, my papers and effects?
[06:40.000 --> 06:43.000]  I'm going to ask you to respect that right.
[06:43.000 --> 06:45.000]  Oh, sure, I'll respect it just fine.
[06:45.000 --> 06:48.000]  If you don't want us looking through your stuff, then you're just going to have to leave.
[06:48.000 --> 06:58.000]  Well, I said, I will also ask you to respect my right to access the courts here for redress of grievances.
[06:58.000 --> 07:04.000]  I've got a right to go in there, and I don't want to really associate with you guys.
[07:04.000 --> 07:08.000]  I mean, you might be fine people, but if you're not the district clerk, I don't want to talk to you.
[07:08.000 --> 07:12.000]  I want to talk to the district clerk.
[07:12.000 --> 07:16.000]  So, you know, they had a dilemma on their hands.
[07:16.000 --> 07:21.000]  They're asking me to give up one right in order to access another.
[07:21.000 --> 07:38.000]  So that was a very long and drawn-out interaction that ended with me asking them to get the district clerk to come out to the lobby.
[07:38.000 --> 07:40.000]  And she was fine with that.
[07:40.000 --> 07:51.000]  So I came out, filed my lawsuit, and she said, well, now that you have a case number, you can put in a motion before the court.
[07:51.000 --> 07:56.000]  I'm not telling you any legal advice, but now you can.
[07:56.000 --> 07:59.000]  That's cool.
[07:59.000 --> 08:04.000]  Yeah, because I said, well, that would be, I said, I would really love it if this judge,
[08:04.000 --> 08:10.000]  these guys are trying to throw Judge Bilstrap under the bus, say it's all his fault and that's why they're depriving my rights.
[08:10.000 --> 08:18.000]  I said, honestly, I would love it if there's a way for me to put a motion before him and have him tell them to stop depriving my rights.
[08:18.000 --> 08:19.000]  So she told me, what?
[08:19.000 --> 08:24.000]  Now that you have a case number, you can.
[08:24.000 --> 08:25.000]  So that's what I did.
[08:25.000 --> 08:35.000]  I wrote up a motion and asked them, asked the judge to revisit his standing order that he has,
[08:35.000 --> 08:43.000]  giving instructions to his agents to deprive my constitutionally protected rights.
[08:43.000 --> 08:47.000]  And I think it came out pretty well.
[08:47.000 --> 08:56.000]  The only problem is today it got shot down by somebody who was helping that judge.
[08:56.000 --> 09:00.000]  The judge never hasn't seen it yet.
[09:00.000 --> 09:07.000]  This is one of these magistrate judges that kind of, oh, let me handle all the little stuff for you, Judge.
[09:07.000 --> 09:20.000]  And so she took a look at it, totally misconstrued it as being all about whether or not I want to show my ID.
[09:20.000 --> 09:22.000]  And that's not what it was about.
[09:22.000 --> 09:26.000]  It was about forcing me to give up one right to access another right.
[09:26.000 --> 09:34.000]  So I'm going to need to amend my motion and submit again.
[09:34.000 --> 09:40.000]  But yeah, that's where I've been having some fun lately.
[09:40.000 --> 09:45.000]  Do you want to look at the motion or talk about it at all other than that?
[09:45.000 --> 09:48.000]  I would definitely like to see the motion.
[09:48.000 --> 09:50.000]  Yeah, let's see here.
[09:50.000 --> 10:00.000]  These federal marshals, they generally have them in the federal courthouses because they're not fit to work on the streets.
[10:00.000 --> 10:09.000]  They generally get the real losers in there and they all have attitude and want to show how big and tough they are.
[10:09.000 --> 10:17.000]  I have stayed away from the federal courthouse because I'll start calling 911 on them.
[10:17.000 --> 10:21.000]  They didn't get the police down there and they'll say, what are you doing there against the federal courthouse?
[10:21.000 --> 10:23.000]  And I'll assure them they can.
[10:23.000 --> 10:30.000]  And then I'll go to a local magistrate and file criminal charges against the federal judge who passed the ruling.
[10:30.000 --> 10:33.000]  And I'm not ready to have that fight yet.
[10:33.000 --> 10:37.000]  But I'm really, really glad that you are at least.
[10:37.000 --> 10:39.000]  Yep, I am.
[10:39.000 --> 10:41.000]  It's got to happen.
[10:41.000 --> 10:46.000]  We can't just have them denying my rights just because that's what they've always done to everybody.
[10:46.000 --> 10:48.000]  That's not cool.
[10:48.000 --> 10:54.000]  So, yeah, well, let's take a look here.
[10:54.000 --> 10:55.000]  Start out here.
[10:55.000 --> 11:04.000]  I called it motion to confirm equal access and said the undersigned seeking from this honorable court an order to clarify
[11:04.000 --> 11:16.000]  and confirm that movement has equal access to the public place located in the building at the address here in the courthouse, stating in support.
[11:16.000 --> 11:24.000]  Number one, movement has a constitutionally protected right to access the courts for redress of grievances.
[11:24.000 --> 11:27.000]  And movement has business with this honorable court.
[11:27.000 --> 11:39.000]  Number two, movement has a constitutionally protected right to be secure in his person, papers and effects from unreasonable seizures and searches and seizures.
[11:39.000 --> 11:48.000]  Number three, movement has a constitutionally protected right to be secure from forced association.
[11:48.000 --> 12:02.000]  And four, movement has a constitutionally protected right to equal rights in that no man or set of men has exclusive privileges.
[12:02.000 --> 12:09.000]  So with those four, I kind of they're all squared off against each other when they do these actions they do.
[12:09.000 --> 12:11.000]  So that's why I lead it to number five.
[12:11.000 --> 12:26.000]  There appears to be an order, Geo 1806, which requires movement to relinquish one constitutionally protected right above in order to exercise another.
[12:26.000 --> 12:38.000]  A, when movement has attempted to access this courthouse to speak with the clerk, a number of heavily armed men and women have surrounded movement in an intimidating fashion,
[12:38.000 --> 12:46.000]  demanding the production of sensitive private personal identifying information as if a crime had already been committed.
[12:46.000 --> 12:57.000]  B, movement made it clear to these individuals that movement had no desire to associate with these individuals and simply wanted to see the clerk.
[12:57.000 --> 13:11.000]  C, these individuals have collectively forced association, evidently based on their zeal to comply with this order 1806, coupled with poor constitutional training.
[13:11.000 --> 13:24.000]  D, furthermore, these armed men and women have insisted on knowing about movements' memberships and licenses, such as with bar associations and peace officer organizations.
[13:24.000 --> 13:36.000]  As it turns out, they were compelling evidence of these personal details in order to categorize me as a man or set of men who would have special or exclusive privileges
[13:36.000 --> 13:43.000]  or immunities with regards to this order 1806.
[13:43.000 --> 13:48.000]  What do you think so far?
[13:48.000 --> 13:50.000]  All right, so six.
[13:50.000 --> 13:53.000]  I'm sorry, I think you're backing them into a corner.
[13:53.000 --> 14:01.000]  And I'm trying to, looking for the place where this magistrate come up with something to do with identification.
[14:01.000 --> 14:07.000]  Yeah, well, you'll see in a minute, I slip in there and I say something about that and that's what they targeted.
[14:07.000 --> 14:22.000]  So here, number six, movement finds this order 1806 problematic in that it appears to deny the people's right to record their public officials in the performance of their duties, a right that has been upheld.
[14:22.000 --> 14:26.000]  And I go quoting a big old giant chunk from Turner v. Driver.
[14:26.000 --> 14:46.000]  And seven, movement realizes that the timing of this order 1806 and Turner v. Driver Supra were such that 1806 may have inadvertently been deemed appropriate when it was issued, because they were within a year of each other.
[14:46.000 --> 15:00.000]  Eight, movement finds this order 1806 ultra-virez in that it appears to depend on Title 18 U.S. Code 930 as a basis for addressing weapons concerns.
[15:00.000 --> 15:13.000]  But then this order adds without authority an unrelated realm of cell phones, tablets, smart watches, et cetera, as if inherently dangerous.
[15:13.000 --> 15:18.000]  They jumped onto this bandwagon about weapons and stuck all this other recording stuff in there.
[15:18.000 --> 15:23.000]  Anything that can record, ooh, that's bad as a weapon.
[15:23.000 --> 15:36.000]  Number nine, movement finds 1806 unnecessary in that we already have adequate alternatives to eliminate electronic noises that may disrupt or interfere with judicial proceedings.
[15:36.000 --> 15:47.000]  Ten, movement finds 1806 problematic and potentially void in that its vagueness results in unconstitutional application.
[15:47.000 --> 16:09.000]  Eleven, this order 1806 contains a provision for a judge to grant specific permission, and movement would like to come and go freely without forced association or production of state-issued ID or compulsion to produce evidence of any kind,
[16:09.000 --> 16:18.000]  but simply to be as free as any other man or set of men to enter and exit for normal and peaceable purposes.
[16:18.000 --> 16:26.000]  Twelve, movement has no particular interest in entering any, quote, secured or, quote, nonpublic areas.
[16:26.000 --> 16:34.000]  Thirteen, movement does not waive any of movement's inherent constitutionally protected rights.
[16:34.000 --> 16:55.000]  Therefore, movement prays for this honorable court to either vacate this order 1806 or else issue another order that movement may bring to the courthouse and show to anyone intending to enforce 1806 in lieu of being forced to surrender movement's rights protected by the Fourth and Fifth and Fourteenth and First Amendments.
[16:55.000 --> 17:00.000]  So, that's my motion.
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[19:26.000 --> 19:39.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and Brett is doing a little digging take to give us a synopsis of the answer he got from the magistrate.
[19:39.000 --> 19:47.000]  This is going to be interesting. This was a fight that I intended to take on, but just hadn't gotten to it yet.
[19:47.000 --> 19:59.000]  I was planning on taking it on in the state first and then in the Fed, but I think the Fed is appropriate because of Turner v. Driver, anyone who doesn't know what Turner v. Driver is.
[19:59.000 --> 20:11.000]  Each of the circuits had to individually assert your right to record public officials and the performance of their duties.
[20:11.000 --> 20:24.000]  It started out on the East Coast, I think it was Connecticut or New Jersey, where the police were beating the guy up and a guy videotaped him with his cell phone and the cops arrested him.
[20:24.000 --> 20:34.000]  It turned out he was an attorney and he took him on and he won the case in whatever the state was on the East Coast.
[20:34.000 --> 20:42.000]  Then the other circuits began to rule likewise and finally the Fifth Circuit ruled in Turner v. Driver.
[20:42.000 --> 20:50.000]  Turner v. Driver, Turner was across the street from the Fort Worth courthouse videotaping the courthouse.
[20:50.000 --> 20:59.000]  Lieutenant Driver and two other officers approached him and gave him a hard time and arrested him, put him in the car, hotboxed him for 45 minutes.
[20:59.000 --> 21:07.000]  This is during the summer with no air conditioning. That's a standard procedure. They haven't been named for it, hotboxing.
[21:07.000 --> 21:23.000]  Anyway, then they released him, fully sued him and took it to the Fifth Circuit and the Fifth Circuit said it's axiomatic that a private citizen may record his public officials and the performance of their duty.
[21:23.000 --> 21:31.000]  This spoke specifically to recording police officers, but they didn't say specifically police officers. They said public officials.
[21:31.000 --> 21:33.000]  Public officials.
[21:33.000 --> 21:37.000]  Last time I read the book, judges were public officials.
[21:37.000 --> 21:39.000]  Thank you.
[21:39.000 --> 21:43.000]  Okay, let's talk about the response.
[21:43.000 --> 21:54.000]  Yeah, last time when I was over there and I told them, look, I'm not trying to record anything. I don't even do video. I'm not trying to do any of that kind of stuff. Even if I were, that should be just totally fine.
[21:54.000 --> 22:00.000]  I have a right to do that and I'm sure you guys all know I'm waving at all these bunch of thugs around me.
[22:00.000 --> 22:04.000]  You guys all know Turner v. Driver confirms that I have that right.
[22:04.000 --> 22:07.000]  Are you an attorney?
[22:07.000 --> 22:20.000]  Hey, now, I've been nothing but nice to you. You don't need to be calling me names.
[22:20.000 --> 22:29.000]  So yeah, we got all friendly now at this point that they treat me completely different.
[22:29.000 --> 22:37.000]  But yeah, so I got this paper back where this lady gave an order. You want to hear that? You want to hear what she had to say?
[22:37.000 --> 22:39.000]  Absolutely.
[22:39.000 --> 22:57.000]  So she is apparently intentionally misconstruing everything. She jumped on that one little bit, that one line where I mentioned ID, and she wrote up three pages about ID and nothing about the rest.
[22:57.000 --> 23:09.000]  She says, let me lead into it. I'm going to read the whole thing. She got like 15 court cases talking about the same thing, but says before the court is plaintiff's motion to confirm equal access.
[23:09.000 --> 23:25.000]  Plaintiff objects to being forced to produce state issued identification or information as to relevant memberships or licensures upon accessing the federal courthouse to speak with the clerk of court.
[23:25.000 --> 23:33.000]  Plaintiff alleges that being forced to produce identification upon accessing the courthouse violates his rights.
[23:33.000 --> 23:58.000]  So she's totally making it about this. And she goes through really probably 15 different court cases here and ends up saying it is hereby ordered that plaintiff's motion to confirm equal access is denied. Plaintiff shall adhere to the requirements of all members of the general public when accessing the federal courthouse, including the production of state issued identification.
[23:58.000 --> 24:01.000]  So that was her response.
[24:01.000 --> 24:04.000]  Have you looked at any of the cases yet?
[24:04.000 --> 24:05.000]  Not yet.
[24:05.000 --> 24:08.000]  I just had them in my hand an hour ago.
[24:08.000 --> 24:09.000]  It sounds like...
[24:09.000 --> 24:11.000]  Three hours ago.
[24:11.000 --> 24:20.000]  It sounds like these cases, if they are accurate and on point, are violating constitution.
[24:20.000 --> 24:25.000]  I'm going to bet they're not. I'm going to bet she's misconstruing them.
[24:25.000 --> 24:35.000]  She's got 10 or 15 cases. I'm going to guarantee you she did not read those cases. She just went to Lexis and read the headnotes.
[24:35.000 --> 24:44.000]  And when I put in cases, I put in the case and then right under it, I quote the section I'm referring to.
[24:44.000 --> 24:51.000]  And recently, when I put in somebody else's cases, I do the same thing.
[24:51.000 --> 25:01.000]  When they cite a case, I go into that case and find, you know, I'll use the keywords that they used in their paraphrase.
[25:01.000 --> 25:03.000]  What they're trying to say it says.
[25:03.000 --> 25:07.000]  Yeah. And then search for that. And generally, I can get a hits right on it.
[25:07.000 --> 25:17.000]  And one I brought on the air is one everybody's probably heard of is that rights belong to the belligerent litigant.
[25:17.000 --> 25:20.000]  It was Johnson v. Something.
[25:20.000 --> 25:31.000]  And Johnson v. Something referenced two different cases, referenced them as saying rights belong to the belligerent litigant.
[25:31.000 --> 25:41.000]  So I pulled up those cases and did a search for belligerent litigant, did a search for civil rights due process.
[25:41.000 --> 25:49.000]  None of that was in either one of those cases. They didn't have anything to do with it.
[25:49.000 --> 25:55.000]  Unfortunately, this happens way more often than we would like to think it does.
[25:55.000 --> 25:58.000]  So does that lawyer just make it up?
[25:58.000 --> 26:11.000]  Could be. If you catch this magistrate misapplying or misconstruing case law, oh, that will cut a button off her shirt.
[26:11.000 --> 26:16.000]  That is about as bad as it can get.
[26:16.000 --> 26:22.000]  So if you send me that, I'll do some digging through it because I kind of like to do that.
[26:22.000 --> 26:29.000]  And almost certainly, she's going to be misconstruing these cases.
[26:29.000 --> 26:35.000]  Because if you're not under arrest, you cannot be required to identify yourself.
[26:35.000 --> 26:40.000]  That's standard standing law. Yeah.
[26:40.000 --> 26:48.000]  And you don't give up that right to be free from identifying yourself just because you walk in a courthouse.
[26:48.000 --> 26:57.000]  Right. And just even if there were no rights, that weren't even the case, still, that wasn't what my motion was about.
[26:57.000 --> 27:02.000]  She misconstrued on purpose so she could jump on this about I.D.
[27:02.000 --> 27:12.000]  So are you going to refile it not mentioning I.D.?
[27:12.000 --> 27:21.000]  Yeah, I think I'll keep it general and say about compelling evidence against me.
[27:21.000 --> 27:29.000]  Well, licensing, that was a good call.
[27:29.000 --> 27:35.000]  They're asking you to produce licenses, and that went dead on point.
[27:35.000 --> 27:39.000]  And what if I don't have any relevant licenses?
[27:39.000 --> 27:44.000]  And when you told them you didn't have any relevant licenses, they wouldn't let you in.
[27:44.000 --> 27:47.000]  Did they ask you for your driver's license?
[27:47.000 --> 27:49.000]  Yes, they did.
[27:49.000 --> 27:56.000]  One of them even tried to trick me into saying he was saying, well, did you drive over here?
[27:56.000 --> 28:02.000]  I wouldn't have gotten out of here without one.
[28:02.000 --> 28:06.000]  Tell him, well, I did that to the DPS.
[28:06.000 --> 28:11.000]  I wanted an I.D. and he said I'd have to give up my license to get an I.D.
[28:11.000 --> 28:16.000]  And he said, if you drive home, I'll pull you over and arrest you.
[28:16.000 --> 28:24.000]  I said, well, that's not why I'm here this time, but when I do come here for that, I'm going to ask you to do just exactly that.
[28:24.000 --> 28:29.000]  Oh, that would sound funny.
[28:29.000 --> 28:33.000]  Take that threat crap down to the high school parking lot.
[28:33.000 --> 28:36.000]  They might be impressed down there.
[28:36.000 --> 28:37.000]  We're grownups.
[28:37.000 --> 28:42.000]  I would have thought they'd have figured that out, but they get incredibly arrogant.
[28:42.000 --> 28:44.000]  So send me that.
[28:44.000 --> 28:51.000]  I will go through it and dig out those cases, and we can talk about it next Thursday.
[28:51.000 --> 28:52.000]  All right.
[28:52.000 --> 28:54.000]  Okay.
[28:54.000 --> 28:56.000]  Thank you, Brett.
[28:56.000 --> 29:03.000]  And I really appreciate it when you do all the hard work and I get to just sit back and watch.
[29:03.000 --> 29:04.000]  Thanks.
[29:04.000 --> 29:12.000]  I appreciate it that it's not me in front of these guys for a change.
[29:12.000 --> 29:13.000]  Okay.
[29:13.000 --> 29:14.000]  We're going to go to our callers.
[29:14.000 --> 29:18.000]  Our first caller is Miss Mary from Texas.
[29:18.000 --> 29:21.000]  Mary, what do you have for us today?
[29:21.000 --> 29:22.000]  Good evening.
[29:22.000 --> 29:24.000]  How are you?
[29:24.000 --> 29:28.000]  I am good for an old fat guy.
[29:28.000 --> 29:34.000]  Well, Brett, what kind of attorneys are we, Brett?
[29:34.000 --> 29:36.000]  What kind of attorneys?
[29:36.000 --> 29:39.000]  We're cliff diving attorneys.
[29:39.000 --> 29:40.000]  We're pro se.
[29:40.000 --> 29:41.000]  I don't know.
[29:41.000 --> 29:46.000]  I think anti is the term you're looking for, anti.
[29:46.000 --> 29:49.000]  I'm looking for pro se, Brett.
[29:49.000 --> 29:50.000]  Hold on.
[29:50.000 --> 29:52.000]  We're about to be cliff diving attorneys.
[29:52.000 --> 30:02.000]  If you're into Brett Fountain, rule of law radio, we'll be right back.
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[33:15.000 --> 33:25.000]  I've got a warrant and I'm going to serve them to the government to prosecute them.
[33:25.000 --> 33:29.000]  Okay.
[33:29.000 --> 33:32.000]  Who's that?
[33:32.000 --> 33:37.000]  This is a race for Mr. Bush.
[33:37.000 --> 33:41.000]  This is a race for the teen.
[33:41.000 --> 33:46.000]  Well, I need a prosecutor to come and help me prosecute them wicked leaders.
[33:46.000 --> 33:48.000]  You see, them murderers are liars.
[33:48.000 --> 33:50.000]  Them tell, them are liars.
[33:50.000 --> 33:52.000]  They tell sick stories.
[33:52.000 --> 33:53.000]  Do not believe me.
[33:53.000 --> 33:54.000]  Say what them tell me.
[33:54.000 --> 33:56.000]  Three percent of American voters.
[33:56.000 --> 33:57.000]  Okay.
[33:57.000 --> 33:58.000]  We are back.
[33:58.000 --> 34:00.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[34:00.000 --> 34:04.000]  And we're talking to Mary in Texas.
[34:04.000 --> 34:06.000]  And okay.
[34:06.000 --> 34:07.000]  Where were we, Mary?
[34:07.000 --> 34:11.000]  We were about to dive off the cliff.
[34:11.000 --> 34:15.000]  I just wanted to tell Brett that we are pro se attorneys,
[34:15.000 --> 34:21.000]  but also that that document he wrote is really good, especially that first part.
[34:21.000 --> 34:30.000]  And, you know, he could play ping pong with this ill-equipped judge,
[34:30.000 --> 34:45.000]  or he could go to the Super Bowl and be our test dummy on a private attorney general lawsuit on non-recording in the courts.
[34:45.000 --> 34:47.000]  I'm curious.
[34:47.000 --> 34:52.000]  I don't quite follow yet, but tell us more.
[34:52.000 --> 34:56.000]  Well, the private attorney general lawsuit Randy's talked about,
[34:56.000 --> 35:07.000]  I think this element of not allowing recordings in the courts, you know, that has affected us adversely.
[35:07.000 --> 35:15.000]  And not just that a ruling would be void, but that a ruling would be inflicting of damage.
[35:15.000 --> 35:21.000]  And so the damage caused by not having transcripts to our cases and that damage,
[35:21.000 --> 35:30.000]  including all others similarly situated, including all others similarly situated that weren't able to record
[35:30.000 --> 35:38.000]  or get transcripts or to catch a judge in the act of fraud or maliciousness or the cohorts.
[35:38.000 --> 35:40.000]  I was in Austin.
[35:40.000 --> 35:44.000]  We had a traffic ticket case in Austin once.
[35:44.000 --> 35:51.000]  And it's a court of records, so they had a court reporter there, and she had a little recorder,
[35:51.000 --> 35:56.000]  and had this cup over her mouth so she could speak into it.
[35:56.000 --> 35:58.000]  Well, that was pretty cool.
[35:58.000 --> 36:04.000]  And I asked the court if I could speak to the court reporter.
[36:04.000 --> 36:06.000]  And he said, well, what do you have to say?
[36:06.000 --> 36:07.000]  I have a question.
[36:07.000 --> 36:08.000]  He said, well, go ahead.
[36:08.000 --> 36:13.000]  And I asked the court reporter, do you have problems with hearing loss?
[36:13.000 --> 36:15.000]  And the judge said, why are you asking that?
[36:15.000 --> 36:22.000]  Oh, well, it's been my experience that court reporters sometimes tend to have selective hearing loss.
[36:22.000 --> 36:27.000]  When the judge says something that's unfortunate or inopportune,
[36:27.000 --> 36:35.000]  the court reporter seems to get temporary hearing problems, and that doesn't turn up in the transcript.
[36:35.000 --> 36:39.000]  Are we going to have that problem?
[36:39.000 --> 36:48.000]  Randy, I want to remind you, when I went with you and Ken Magnuson to the legislature,
[36:48.000 --> 36:51.000]  and I was the video camera guy.
[36:51.000 --> 36:55.000]  Yeah, when you nearly got us all beat up.
[36:55.000 --> 37:00.000]  Yeah, I was afraid she was going to beat up the sergeant at arms.
[37:00.000 --> 37:08.000]  He tried to shut up one of Infowars journalists, and I called them out on a medical legislative session, the same guy.
[37:08.000 --> 37:15.000]  But all this being said, Brett, we were out when I used to smoke in the rotunda, the basement level rotunda,
[37:15.000 --> 37:22.000]  and the lobbyist told me, you know, they just, I'm on a different team than you, but they just violated your rights.
[37:22.000 --> 37:28.000]  And because the recording, they turned our camera around and turned our camera off.
[37:28.000 --> 37:35.000]  And Ken was having to do some work in a judicial or legislative committee or something.
[37:35.000 --> 37:39.000]  And I was approached by members on the committee, who are you working with?
[37:39.000 --> 37:41.000]  Do you have a card? What's your name?
[37:41.000 --> 37:48.000]  And I said, you probably should, I'll wait for you to talk to my advisor, you know, or my boss.
[37:48.000 --> 37:52.000]  And so I wouldn't give them any of them any information.
[37:52.000 --> 37:59.000]  And one of the younger men, they sent one of the younger men down to turn a larger camera before all these fancy cell phones,
[37:59.000 --> 38:03.000]  to turn the camera around on the, what do we have, a tripod?
[38:03.000 --> 38:07.000]  And he didn't turn it off, he turned it around or something, maybe turned it off.
[38:07.000 --> 38:12.000]  So he tampered with our equipment and caused us to not be able to.
[38:12.000 --> 38:17.000]  Yeah, I went down and talked to him and he said, well, we have our own videographers.
[38:17.000 --> 38:20.000]  And I told him, you can have whatever you want to.
[38:20.000 --> 38:22.000]  I got my videographer.
[38:22.000 --> 38:29.000]  And then we went to the captain of the Capitol Police and asked them to arrest these guys
[38:29.000 --> 38:39.000]  and arrest the head of the hearing, some senator who is heading up this subcommittee hearing.
[38:39.000 --> 38:42.000]  And he said we should talk to the sergeant in arms.
[38:42.000 --> 38:45.000]  So we got the sergeant in arms, tried to get him to arrest him.
[38:45.000 --> 38:48.000]  It was a real circus out there.
[38:48.000 --> 38:53.000]  But it wasn't a fight I was ready to have at the time.
[38:53.000 --> 38:59.000]  The only thing is that the man outside, the lobbyist outside, while I was having a cigarette,
[38:59.000 --> 39:07.000]  he had said that if we were to have used their recordings,
[39:07.000 --> 39:13.000]  we couldn't have publicized them in many ways because they had the copyright.
[39:13.000 --> 39:16.000]  Their recordings were useless to us anyways.
[39:16.000 --> 39:24.000]  Can you copyright a public hearing?
[39:24.000 --> 39:26.000]  Well, that's what he had said.
[39:26.000 --> 39:31.000]  And I had talked with one of your friends, Randy, about doing a lawsuit on them.
[39:31.000 --> 39:36.000]  And they were never to make any work out of it, even though I distilled them.
[39:36.000 --> 39:38.000]  Well, Ternary Drive is super clear.
[39:38.000 --> 39:45.000]  The piece I collected out of there is, I think, really helpful.
[39:45.000 --> 39:47.000]  Would you like to look at that together?
[39:47.000 --> 39:49.000]  Absolutely.
[39:49.000 --> 39:53.000]  I'd even rather he listen to it.
[39:53.000 --> 40:00.000]  It says the First Amendment protects freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
[40:00.000 --> 40:07.000]  But the First Amendment goes beyond protection of the press and the self-expression of individuals
[40:07.000 --> 40:15.000]  to prohibit government from limiting the stock of information from which members of the public may draw.
[40:15.000 --> 40:21.000]  News gathering, for example, is entitled to First Amendment protection,
[40:21.000 --> 40:29.000]  for without some protection for seeking out the news, freedom of the press could be eviscerated,
[40:29.000 --> 40:33.000]  even though this right is not absolute.
[40:33.000 --> 40:41.000]  The Supreme Court has also recognized a First Amendment right to receive information and ideas.
[40:41.000 --> 40:50.000]  And there is an undoubted right to gather news from any source by means within the law.
[40:50.000 --> 40:55.000]  Furthermore, the Supreme Court has long recognized that the First Amendment protects film.
[40:55.000 --> 41:02.000]  A corollary to this principle is that the First Amendment protects the act of making film,
[41:02.000 --> 41:11.000]  as there is no fixed First Amendment line between the act of creating speech and the speech itself.
[41:11.000 --> 41:19.000]  Indeed, the Supreme Court has never drawn a distinction between the process of creating a form of pure speech,
[41:19.000 --> 41:26.000]  such as writing or painting, and the product of these processes, the essay or the artwork,
[41:26.000 --> 41:30.000]  in terms of the First Amendment protection afforded.
[41:30.000 --> 41:36.000]  Although writing and painting can be reduced to their constituent acts and thus described as conduct,
[41:36.000 --> 41:42.000]  we have not attempted to disconnect the end product from the act of creation.
[41:42.000 --> 41:44.000]  That's Turner v. Driver.
[41:44.000 --> 41:47.000]  Whew, that's a good.
[41:47.000 --> 41:54.000]  So that's saying the act of creating the audio or video is part of the protected right.
[41:54.000 --> 41:59.000]  Yes.
[41:59.000 --> 42:01.000]  Works for me.
[42:01.000 --> 42:05.000]  Now you get me all fired up and I want to go down and start that fight with them.
[42:05.000 --> 42:17.000]  I'm going down to Seguin early next week to file a mandamus with the Court of Appeals down there for Victoria County.
[42:17.000 --> 42:21.000]  I'm almost tempted to take my camera with me.
[42:21.000 --> 42:24.000]  I have done that in court where the judge told me to turn the camera off.
[42:24.000 --> 42:29.000]  Oh, but Judge, I wanted to record these proceedings.
[42:29.000 --> 42:40.000]  They sent the bailiff to take my cell phone and the judge started to begin the hearing again and then stopped and she knew me.
[42:40.000 --> 42:46.000]  Mr. Helton, do you have anything else on your person capable of recording these proceedings?
[42:46.000 --> 42:51.000]  Oh, Judge, I was hoping you wouldn't ask me that.
[42:51.000 --> 42:59.000]  I had a little recorder that looked like a USB drive Velcro to my name tag.
[42:59.000 --> 43:01.000]  I ripped it off.
[43:01.000 --> 43:03.000]  The bailiff came over and grabbed it.
[43:03.000 --> 43:05.000]  He couldn't figure out how to shut it off.
[43:05.000 --> 43:07.000]  Started again.
[43:07.000 --> 43:09.000]  So I just kept on going.
[43:09.000 --> 43:15.000]  Mr. Helton, do you have – oh, Judge, pull one out of my pocket.
[43:15.000 --> 43:17.000]  That was fun.
[43:17.000 --> 43:23.000]  If I do that, that's the judge that will want to do it too because she's a real stinker.
[43:23.000 --> 43:25.000]  But I'll get to that.
[43:25.000 --> 43:26.000]  Maybe I won't have to.
[43:26.000 --> 43:29.000]  Maybe Brett will get it done for us.
[43:29.000 --> 43:35.000]  Okay, Mary, I know we had another reason to call.
[43:35.000 --> 43:45.000]  Yeah, I wanted to discuss informing some officials about official oppression and how to use that in the problems of election fraud.
[43:45.000 --> 43:47.000]  Okay, well, we're almost out of time.
[43:47.000 --> 43:49.000]  We're about to jump off the cliff again.
[43:49.000 --> 43:50.000]  Hang on.
[43:50.000 --> 43:54.000]  Randy Helton, Brett Felton, very critic.
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[46:52.000 --> 47:09.480]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Louisville Radio, and we are talking to Sweet
[47:09.480 --> 47:10.480]  Mary.
[47:10.480 --> 47:13.480]  Okay, Mary, where were we?
[47:13.480 --> 47:25.840]  Well, let me draw your attention back to when I was about to sue a local election judge,
[47:25.840 --> 47:36.160]  quote unquote, for not allowing me to photograph the hourly census post.
[47:36.160 --> 47:45.400]  So every hour or two at the daily or the on, I'm sorry, the election day vote, not the
[47:45.400 --> 47:53.040]  early voting, they have a tally sheet of how many voters have come in in this situation
[47:53.040 --> 47:55.080]  with every two hours.
[47:55.080 --> 48:01.960]  And with my prior work years ago with Vote Rescue under Vicki Karp and Karen Rennick,
[48:01.960 --> 48:08.040]  that was one of the things we would try to capture as poll watchers to audit or potentially
[48:08.040 --> 48:12.280]  try to audit the election.
[48:12.280 --> 48:18.320]  I didn't make a stink because there was about 200 Trump-hating liberals outside of a central
[48:18.320 --> 48:19.320]  Austin location.
[48:19.320 --> 48:25.800]  So I just had somebody tally down his name and pencil, and I wrote a small narrative
[48:25.800 --> 48:32.600]  and started trying to work with the local Republicans and inadvertently became a local
[48:32.600 --> 48:33.600]  Republican.
[48:33.600 --> 48:39.600]  Really had a good time working with them, especially during COVID.
[48:39.600 --> 48:43.600]  The fact in my situation there was that I decided I needed to start a political action
[48:43.600 --> 48:49.600]  committee before I started gaining too much precedence and headway politically.
[48:49.600 --> 48:58.160]  And so that became in the hindsight, now with a lot of new friends in the Republican Party,
[48:58.160 --> 49:04.800]  I want to and have promised to educate an official here, in fact a governor, on how
[49:04.800 --> 49:12.360]  to use official oppression in a county-wise situation of election fraud.
[49:12.360 --> 49:16.920]  Listening to some of the arguments in the legislature during some emergency session
[49:16.920 --> 49:22.800]  two or three years ago regarding election fraud here in Texas, it was clear that none
[49:22.800 --> 49:30.520]  of the members of that audience, including some of my old friends, had the ideas that
[49:30.520 --> 49:32.360]  you have, Randy.
[49:32.360 --> 49:39.920]  And some of the weller, better speaking of the men there, thought the only answer was
[49:39.920 --> 49:57.880]  to more enforce and populate the state attorney's funds so he could regulate the election.
[49:57.880 --> 50:06.480]  So I want to speak on how we deal with election fraud in the county because that's the main
[50:06.480 --> 50:10.400]  area as Marsha was speaking about, and just with official oppression.
[50:10.400 --> 50:16.600]  I don't want the governor to think I'm giving him any special ideas.
[50:16.600 --> 50:22.360]  I want him to understand that we are just showing him what the penal code says about
[50:22.360 --> 50:24.160]  really tyranny.
[50:24.160 --> 50:37.760]  Okay, where do I find the governing documents that control the access to the voting process
[50:37.760 --> 50:42.240]  for court watchers?
[50:42.240 --> 50:45.680]  For instance, this tally that you wanted to see.
[50:45.680 --> 50:48.680]  We did all of that.
[50:48.680 --> 50:49.680]  Say that again.
[50:49.680 --> 50:55.360]  The election party here has a lot of folks that have invested, and these are some really
[50:55.360 --> 51:04.640]  high IQ individuals to know and study all of the active election laws.
[51:04.640 --> 51:12.680]  I need to talk to one of those people because I'll talk to them different than what they're
[51:12.680 --> 51:20.800]  accustomed to because the way I read the code, 3903 are my favorite catch-all, that if a
[51:20.800 --> 51:26.600]  public official exerts or purports to exert an authority he does not expressly have or
[51:26.600 --> 51:33.960]  fails to perform a duty he's required to perform, and that's the one that we will probably use
[51:33.960 --> 51:42.240]  here, and denies you in a riot, that's official oppression's classic misdemeanor.
[51:42.240 --> 51:52.720]  Was the tally that they keep required to be kept, and was it construed to be public information?
[51:52.720 --> 51:58.520]  Was it required to be made available to the court watcher?
[51:58.520 --> 52:09.880]  I think we can find many varied areas of negligence or fraud, and I know in the election Marcia
[52:09.880 --> 52:16.640]  was talking about four years ago, it was inordinate, I mean we couldn't stop from getting evidence
[52:16.640 --> 52:17.640]  of fraud.
[52:17.640 --> 52:23.760]  It seems that there's been a lot of work done locally in Texas, but what I want to
[52:23.760 --> 52:34.200]  give the governor in this situation is how the performance of official oppression works
[52:34.200 --> 52:44.240]  when we have what we are talking about, county clerks, that are not protecting the vote or
[52:44.240 --> 52:45.240]  the ballot.
[52:45.240 --> 52:51.720]  So I could get somebody maybe to come onto your show, one of my friends in the Republican
[52:51.720 --> 52:52.720]  Party.
[52:52.720 --> 52:57.720]  That would be good if they're willing to.
[52:57.720 --> 53:02.680]  There are some very powerful tools they can use that aren't being used at all.
[53:02.680 --> 53:08.840]  Okay, well let me have some conversations with some of these friends this week and see
[53:08.840 --> 53:16.400]  what I can procure, and also I'm going to add briefly, we have a local city council
[53:16.400 --> 53:25.840]  member who is very mad, our liberal woke Soros funded, and apparently Soros has two sons
[53:25.840 --> 53:35.200]  that live in Austin, Soros funded DA Jose Garza has not been enforcing laws against
[53:35.200 --> 53:36.460]  criminals.
[53:36.460 --> 53:45.440]  We just had a case of domestic violence rear itself in a local bar at Anderson Mill Caverns
[53:45.440 --> 53:54.140]  last weekend, and the individual had some priors on him, so the city council member
[53:54.140 --> 53:59.200]  is saying that this is the DA's fault for not being tough on crime.
[53:59.200 --> 54:03.520]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, there's more to this.
[54:03.520 --> 54:12.760]  The DA is not a magistrate, so a DA has no power to make a determination of probable
[54:12.760 --> 54:13.760]  cause.
[54:13.760 --> 54:14.760]  Right.
[54:14.760 --> 54:18.880]  And he referenced that, he did reference that in an audio recording which was played locally
[54:18.880 --> 54:20.360]  on a radio show.
[54:20.360 --> 54:24.880]  Oh, who is he?
[54:24.880 --> 54:29.240]  They usually don't like to admit that, that's cool.
[54:29.240 --> 54:37.440]  I have hammered him with that, I filed criminal charges against Jose Garza with the grand
[54:37.440 --> 54:47.800]  jury accusing him of impersonating a judicial officer by making a determination of probable
[54:47.800 --> 54:54.120]  cause in a criminal complaint, I briefed that out to him, it sounds like he read it.
[54:54.120 --> 55:00.200]  I told you on the phone call I had with you, I was aghast that he used the word magistrate,
[55:00.200 --> 55:04.080]  and I said it must have had something to do with you.
[55:04.080 --> 55:14.040]  Well, I hammered him pretty good over it, I set him up, I brought a sealed envelope
[55:14.040 --> 55:18.240]  directed to the foreman, and they sent out their head investigator, a female, and I really
[55:18.240 --> 55:24.760]  liked her, she was smart, I don't know, she might not have been on my side or been helpful,
[55:24.760 --> 55:29.320]  but she was smart, she didn't do anything stupid or aggressive, none of that urinating
[55:29.320 --> 55:36.680]  contest crapola, she's the one I gave the original complaints for the grand jury against
[55:36.680 --> 55:47.800]  Manucan too, I'm sorry, not Manucan, against the governor, and they used them, I came back
[55:47.800 --> 55:55.520]  because I had filed criminal complaints against some other public, oh no, because the DA decided
[55:55.520 --> 56:04.080]  not to prosecute, so I accused him of impersonating a judicial officer, I'm sorry, I'm getting
[56:04.080 --> 56:11.760]  things mixed up, it was the Manucan complaints, ex-director of the treasury, he decided not
[56:11.760 --> 56:18.260]  to prosecute those complaints, so I filed it, created a set of complaints against him
[56:18.260 --> 56:23.440]  for impersonating a judicial officer by making a determination of probable cause, and gave
[56:23.440 --> 56:29.200]  that to his investigator, and I told her, now whatever you do, tell the prosecutor,
[56:29.200 --> 56:35.800]  do not open this, this is for the grand jury, don't open it, but what do you think he did?
[56:35.800 --> 56:41.520]  Open it as fast as he could, and he found criminal complaints against him in there because
[56:41.520 --> 56:48.720]  he was acting in the place of a magistrate, so probably got his attention, and I have
[56:48.720 --> 56:53.680]  so much going, I didn't have time to pursue, I did file criminal charges against him with
[56:53.680 --> 57:01.000]  every district judge in Travis County, so now I can go back on them under 15.09 if I
[57:01.000 --> 57:02.960]  can get time to get to it.
[57:02.960 --> 57:11.360]  Well, it was apparent, it was the earlier briefing of his test, of his, of a recording
[57:11.360 --> 57:19.280]  of his, and sort of a confrontation that McKenzie Kelly had with him, I believe, and they didn't
[57:19.280 --> 57:25.800]  play the exact recording later when he referenced the word magistrate, but he was really clear
[57:25.800 --> 57:32.600]  that he wasn't a magistrate, and da-di-di-da, just in that, and I, it was about 5, 5.30
[57:32.600 --> 57:36.320]  in the morning last week, I was listening to it on the way to work.
[57:36.320 --> 57:42.360]  So good, sounds like we got his attention, so it may be time to go back and beat him
[57:42.360 --> 57:43.360]  up again.
[57:43.360 --> 57:48.400]  Well, I want to teach the city council member to do something on this, I want her to do
[57:48.400 --> 57:55.080]  it, so I want to talk with you at some point about that, and I'll go now, and y'all continue
[57:55.080 --> 57:56.080]  with the show.
[57:56.080 --> 57:57.080]  Thank you, guys, I love y'all.
[57:57.080 --> 58:02.280]  Okay, thank you, Mary, and I'd be glad to talk to her, I can give her some, somewhat
[58:02.280 --> 58:07.600]  more subtle tools and techniques to use that aren't quite as heavy-handed as I tend to
[58:07.600 --> 58:08.600]  be.
[58:08.600 --> 58:14.000]  Okay, then I'll use this official oppression thing, Randy.
[58:14.000 --> 58:18.720]  You can, it's just how you set them up for the official oppression.
[58:18.720 --> 58:24.640]  I'll speak to this when we come back on the other side, what I'm doing in Hill County,
[58:24.640 --> 58:28.360]  I'm really having great fun with those guys.
[58:28.360 --> 58:34.080]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue LeVlo Radio, I call in number 5-1, let's see,
[58:34.080 --> 58:38.480]  I've got a full board, as soon as Mary drops off, we'll have one empty slot.
[58:38.480 --> 58:44.280]  Yeah, we have a first-time caller coming up, coming in 214.
[58:44.280 --> 58:50.400]  Oh, okay, we'll get to him when we come back, we'll be right back.
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[01:00:27.640 --> 01:00:32.640]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[01:00:32.640 --> 01:00:35.400]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:49.020]  Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed.
[01:00:49.020 --> 01:00:52.120]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there.
[01:00:52.120 --> 01:00:55.300]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[01:00:55.300 --> 01:00:59.440]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment
[01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.040]  was designed to prevent.
[01:01:01.040 --> 01:01:05.240]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers, a common demand in
[01:01:05.240 --> 01:01:07.360]  the days of our founding fathers.
[01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:08.360]  Third party, Third Amendment?
[01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:09.360]  Get it?
[01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.520]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging, tell them
[01:01:13.520 --> 01:01:16.960]  to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and re-read the Third Amendment.
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[01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:26.680]  That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from unreasonable
[01:02:26.680 --> 01:02:28.160]  search and seizure.
[01:02:28.160 --> 01:02:29.160]  Fourth Amendment?
[01:02:29.160 --> 01:02:30.520]  Four eyes staring at you?
[01:02:30.520 --> 01:02:31.520]  Get it?
[01:02:31.520 --> 01:02:34.520]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of
[01:02:34.520 --> 01:02:35.520]  security.
[01:02:35.520 --> 01:02:40.160]  Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing.
[01:02:40.160 --> 01:02:44.160]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause, I say
[01:02:44.160 --> 01:02:46.960]  it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:51.280]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights and use their googly
[01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.440]  eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
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[01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:38.440]  I won't pay for the car with my money, I won't pay for the fun with my body.
[01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:45.440]  Their plans wicked and their logic shoddy, Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body.
[01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:52.440]  I won't pay for the boys with my money, Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body.
[01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:59.440]  Whole agenda smells funny, I wanna fight in a wire of mine.
[01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:05.440]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of Law Radio.
[01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:09.440]  And we got three callers on the board, we got an empty slot.
[01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.440]  So if you have a question or comment, give us a call.
[01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:16.440]  512-646-1984.
[01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.440]  We have a first time caller, so I'm gonna take him first.
[01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:26.440]  If you are in the 214 area code, give us a first name.
[01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.440]  And we already know the state, 214 is the Dallas area.
[01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.440]  Talk to us.
[01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.440]  Hi.
[01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:36.440]  Hello.
[01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:39.440]  Hello, give us a first name.
[01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:43.440]  My name is Mercedes, I wasn't sure if I was online.
[01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.440]  Yes, you definitely are.
[01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.440]  And what was the first name, sir?
[01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.440]  Mercedes.
[01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:52.440]  Mercedes.
[01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:59.440]  Okay, it came up Merck, so I thought maybe you were Mercenary.
[01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.440]  Okay, Mercedes.
[01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.440]  And Brett, I don't think it's a guy.
[01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:08.440]  Yeah, I'm beginning to get that impression as well.
[01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:13.440]  I'm here in California trying to hold down the fort.
[01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.440]  You're in California.
[01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:16.440]  Oh.
[01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:18.440]  Unfortunately.
[01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:22.440]  Okay, so this came up 214 area code, and that's Dallas.
[01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:24.440]  So that's good.
[01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:27.440]  So Mercedes in California.
[01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:32.440]  Okay, what do you have for us today?
[01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:37.440]  Okay, so I just wanted to say thank you, first of all, for what you all do.
[01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:44.440]  And second of all, in one of our cases, we have challenged territorial jurisdiction,
[01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:50.440]  which today we had a hearing and the attorney didn't even show up for the other case,
[01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:54.440]  which I'm sure he didn't even know how to respond.
[01:05:54.440 --> 01:06:02.440]  Hold on, territorial jurisdiction as opposed to venue.
[01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:05.440]  Yeah, territorial jurisdiction would inform venue.
[01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:13.440]  Venue would be the court, but then territory would be the geographical area from which offenses
[01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:18.440]  or alleged offenses could funnel into that venue, that court.
[01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.440]  Yeah, where I was going to is why territorial instead of venue?
[01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.440]  Because generally that goes to venue.
[01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.440]  Correct.
[01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:34.440]  Well, I am learning as we are going, and that's how I've come to this.
[01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:40.440]  It's not necessarily something I wanted to learn about the law, but I'm learning slowly but surely.
[01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:44.440]  Okay, hold on, let me speak to that quickly.
[01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.440]  It's okay to do it wrong.
[01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.440]  It's okay not to know all the answers.
[01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:56.440]  Part of the process of going to court with these guys is learning.
[01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:59.440]  You're there for them to teach you.
[01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:00.440]  Okay.
[01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:02.440]  So if you screw something up, don't worry about it.
[01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:13.440]  There's always something you can do as long as you always show up to court and always answer a pleading on time.
[01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:18.440]  Now, the answer can be garbage, but make sure it's in on time.
[01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:22.440]  Because once it's in on time, then you can file an amended pleading.
[01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:24.440]  But don't miss time limits.
[01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:26.440]  Don't miss hearings.
[01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:33.440]  Other than that, you've got remedy for just about anything they do, and it's okay to make mistakes.
[01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.440]  Well, the judge didn't say that we were wrong.
[01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:41.440]  She just said that we needed to submit it with a form.
[01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:51.440]  When I'm looking at, you know, your telegram group and your file, and the challenges, the subject matter challenges,
[01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:57.440]  I think there was a different jurisdiction challenge, it looks like the way mine looks like.
[01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:01.440]  So is there a form that you're supposed to file as well?
[01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.440]  Are you in a federal court or a state court?
[01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:07.440]  No, it's a state court.
[01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:11.440]  Okay, that's going to go to local rules.
[01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:17.440]  They can't deny you in your remedy because of whatever form they want.
[01:08:17.440 --> 01:08:23.440]  So what I do when they want a form, for instance, I'm always filing open records requests.
[01:08:23.440 --> 01:08:27.440]  And they always say, well, we have our own form.
[01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:30.440]  And I generally tell them, well, you can use that form for toilet paper.
[01:08:30.440 --> 01:08:38.440]  But if I don't want to have that file, I'll take their form and fill it out, take my information request form,
[01:08:38.440 --> 01:08:43.440]  because I've got one I've developed over the years, and it's kind of ugly.
[01:08:43.440 --> 01:08:46.440]  And I stick it on the back, and I give it to them.
[01:08:46.440 --> 01:08:52.440]  So if they want a form, do a form, and then put your motion attached to it,
[01:08:52.440 --> 01:09:02.440]  in case their form somehow restricts you in doing everything you want to do, then just attach yours to it.
[01:09:02.440 --> 01:09:03.440]  Well, you're nicer than I am.
[01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:05.440]  I won't use their forms.
[01:09:05.440 --> 01:09:08.440]  If somebody wants me to use a form, I just tell them no.
[01:09:08.440 --> 01:09:12.440]  Well, it depends on the fight I want to have.
[01:09:12.440 --> 01:09:16.440]  Well, I'm looking where, sorry.
[01:09:16.440 --> 01:09:23.440]  Yeah, most of the time, if I've got a bigger issue going on, and I don't want to get into that fight,
[01:09:23.440 --> 01:09:26.440]  I'll just take their form and fill it out and stick mine to it.
[01:09:26.440 --> 01:09:35.440]  I did that in Sherman, where Dr. Pepper's from, anyway, out in West Texas.
[01:09:35.440 --> 01:09:42.440]  I gave the guy his form, his complaint form, as a sheriff's deputy, and he got the form,
[01:09:42.440 --> 01:09:45.440]  and he noticed something was behind it.
[01:09:45.440 --> 01:09:48.440]  His form was a voluntary statement.
[01:09:48.440 --> 01:09:52.440]  He looked behind it, and there's a verified criminal affidavit.
[01:09:52.440 --> 01:09:53.440]  He said, what's this?
[01:09:53.440 --> 01:09:55.440]  I said, well, that's a verified criminal affidavit.
[01:09:55.440 --> 01:09:56.440]  Well, I'm not going to take this.
[01:09:56.440 --> 01:09:58.440]  Sorry, Bubba, you touched it.
[01:09:58.440 --> 01:10:00.440]  You're stuck to it.
[01:10:00.440 --> 01:10:01.440]  Well, I was throwing it garbage.
[01:10:01.440 --> 01:10:04.440]  I don't care what you do.
[01:10:04.440 --> 01:10:06.440]  I'll just take the next step.
[01:10:06.440 --> 01:10:09.440]  Oh, he was furious.
[01:10:09.440 --> 01:10:16.440]  I did it to a district judge in Waco.
[01:10:16.440 --> 01:10:20.440]  They wouldn't take any more fines in the case because he had closed the case.
[01:10:20.440 --> 01:10:23.440]  Well, this was a subject matter jurisdiction challenge.
[01:10:23.440 --> 01:10:28.440]  So I went to the clerk, and I said, I got this pleading that I'm trying to file into this court,
[01:10:28.440 --> 01:10:32.440]  but I'm not sure if I've got it written the way the judge wants to see them.
[01:10:32.440 --> 01:10:38.440]  Can you show it to him and ask him to tell me if this is how he wants it put together?
[01:10:38.440 --> 01:10:39.440]  And she said, for sure.
[01:10:39.440 --> 01:10:42.440]  She took it to the judge.
[01:10:42.440 --> 01:10:44.440]  The judge came out with it.
[01:10:44.440 --> 01:10:45.440]  Well, this is a filing in this case.
[01:10:45.440 --> 01:10:47.440]  I said, yeah, it is.
[01:10:47.440 --> 01:10:49.440]  Well, this case is closed.
[01:10:49.440 --> 01:10:51.440]  No, it's not.
[01:10:51.440 --> 01:10:53.440]  That's a subject matter jurisdiction challenge.
[01:10:53.440 --> 01:10:55.440]  Well, I'm not going to accept it.
[01:10:55.440 --> 01:10:57.440]  Sorry, Bubba, you touched it.
[01:10:57.440 --> 01:10:59.440]  You're stuck to it.
[01:10:59.440 --> 01:11:00.440]  Well, I was just sorting the trash.
[01:11:00.440 --> 01:11:03.440]  I said, go ahead, and he threw it in the trash can.
[01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:09.440]  I went across the other side of the building and filed criminal charges against him with the district attorney.
[01:11:09.440 --> 01:11:12.440]  And I got a really cool DA.
[01:11:12.440 --> 01:11:14.440]  I gave it to a young kid, and he took it in the back.
[01:11:14.440 --> 01:11:21.440]  This tall, gray-headed, real distinguished-looking guy come out, and he's holding my complaint.
[01:11:21.440 --> 01:11:24.440]  And he said, are you Randall Kelton?
[01:11:24.440 --> 01:11:25.440]  I said, yes, I am.
[01:11:25.440 --> 01:11:27.440]  Are you the elected district attorney?
[01:11:27.440 --> 01:11:30.440]  He said, yes, I am.
[01:11:30.440 --> 01:11:32.440]  He said, did you file these complaints?
[01:11:32.440 --> 01:11:33.440]  I said, yes, I did.
[01:11:33.440 --> 01:11:36.440]  What are you going to do with them?
[01:11:36.440 --> 01:11:43.440]  He looked at me and said, Mr. Kelton, I get the impression that you're a man on a mission.
[01:11:43.440 --> 01:11:47.440]  And I make a point never to interfere with a man on a mission.
[01:11:47.440 --> 01:11:52.440]  I'm going to give them the district grand jury and let them do whatever they want to with it.
[01:11:52.440 --> 01:11:53.440]  Well, thank you very much.
[01:11:53.440 --> 01:11:56.440]  I'll appreciate that.
[01:11:56.440 --> 01:12:00.440]  Now, I didn't get the judge indicted.
[01:12:00.440 --> 01:12:07.440]  But I can guarantee you if somebody comes back with a pleading to file in the court,
[01:12:07.440 --> 01:12:11.440]  the judge is not going to throw it in the trash.
[01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:13.440]  Anyway, I got a little off point.
[01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:16.440]  But this is a learning experience.
[01:12:16.440 --> 01:12:18.440]  If you screw something up, don't worry.
[01:12:18.440 --> 01:12:22.440]  If you're always polite and you're always professional, don't worry about it.
[01:12:22.440 --> 01:12:25.440]  You'll get it better next time.
[01:12:25.440 --> 01:12:30.440]  So what's the nature of this issue?
[01:12:30.440 --> 01:12:33.440]  We are an animal sanctuary.
[01:12:33.440 --> 01:12:38.440]  And it's just, I mean, the evilness of the people here.
[01:12:38.440 --> 01:12:40.440]  We just want to take care of the animals.
[01:12:40.440 --> 01:12:45.440]  And just because of where we are, there's a lot of jealousy.
[01:12:45.440 --> 01:12:48.440]  I mean, I can't even believe it.
[01:12:48.440 --> 01:12:54.440]  I used to believe, I guess probably like most American people, you believe in the justice system.
[01:12:54.440 --> 01:13:00.440]  And when I come out here to California, I mean, being sued, I mean, I honestly could write a book.
[01:13:00.440 --> 01:13:04.440]  I cannot believe that they can drag you to court.
[01:13:04.440 --> 01:13:10.440]  It's like to me, it seems like you're guilty until you're proven innocent instead of you're innocent
[01:13:10.440 --> 01:13:15.440]  until proven guilty and that people can just make up lies and take you to court.
[01:13:15.440 --> 01:13:16.440]  So this is actually...
[01:13:16.440 --> 01:13:17.440]  Okay.
[01:13:17.440 --> 01:13:21.440]  Well, let me suggest a strategy.
[01:13:21.440 --> 01:13:27.440]  How familiar are you with a counter suit?
[01:13:27.440 --> 01:13:29.440]  Well, I'm learning.
[01:13:29.440 --> 01:13:32.440]  But I am starting to take that jurisdictionary.
[01:13:32.440 --> 01:13:34.440]  I've only been through one.
[01:13:34.440 --> 01:13:37.440]  But I would love to learn.
[01:13:37.440 --> 01:13:39.440]  I don't want people to do it for me.
[01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:43.440]  I want to learn myself so we can defend ourselves.
[01:13:43.440 --> 01:13:46.440]  That's the only way you really learn.
[01:13:46.440 --> 01:13:50.440]  You can do all the academic research you want to.
[01:13:50.440 --> 01:13:56.440]  But until you stand in front of them, you're not going to learn how this works.
[01:13:56.440 --> 01:14:00.440]  And, you know, we have some tools we offer here.
[01:14:00.440 --> 01:14:02.440]  There's a set of rules we go through.
[01:14:02.440 --> 01:14:08.440]  The one thing we haven't done in a long time is demonstrate the process.
[01:14:08.440 --> 01:14:13.440]  We have a process and we generally take officials and run them through the process.
[01:14:13.440 --> 01:14:20.440]  If they're suing you civilly and if you sue me civilly for anything,
[01:14:20.440 --> 01:14:24.440]  the first thing I'm going to do is counter sue.
[01:14:24.440 --> 01:14:27.440]  That doesn't make any difference what it is.
[01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:29.440]  I'll make up something.
[01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:31.440]  You want a fight?
[01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:33.440]  I'll give you one.
[01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:38.440]  Once I've counter sued, you can't just walk away anymore.
[01:14:38.440 --> 01:14:42.440]  Now you try to prosecute me, but you also have to defend yourself.
[01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:44.440]  And then I say, tell you what, guys, you know,
[01:14:44.440 --> 01:14:46.440]  I've bar-grieved your lawyers into the Stone Age.
[01:14:46.440 --> 01:14:48.440]  I'm costing you a fortune.
[01:14:48.440 --> 01:14:51.440]  Let's make a deal.
[01:14:51.440 --> 01:14:56.440]  But another thing that I detected from your verbiage,
[01:14:56.440 --> 01:15:04.440]  are these mostly public officials that are taking these actions?
[01:15:04.440 --> 01:15:07.440]  Well, we have two different cases.
[01:15:07.440 --> 01:15:10.440]  The first case we already got a default judgment,
[01:15:10.440 --> 01:15:13.440]  and that was because we went through three attorneys.
[01:15:13.440 --> 01:15:19.440]  And those people, you know, she had somebody with deep pockets helping her.
[01:15:19.440 --> 01:15:21.440]  We were audited by the attorney general.
[01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:24.440]  When I did a background search, the attorney general,
[01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:28.440]  the agent that sent us the audit, which he had to make $2 million or more,
[01:15:28.440 --> 01:15:36.440]  his email address matched up with one partner for the law firm.
[01:15:36.440 --> 01:15:46.440]  But in general, it's a big law firm, so they have a lot of connections.
[01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:48.440]  Wait, say that again.
[01:15:48.440 --> 01:15:52.440]  Did the email address line up with the law firm?
[01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:55.440]  Can you say that again?
[01:15:55.440 --> 01:16:00.440]  Yeah, I'm just trying to get clear on who was it that had an email address
[01:16:00.440 --> 01:16:03.440]  that lined up with that law firm?
[01:16:03.440 --> 01:16:10.440]  The attorney general agent, the one that sent us that we needed to be audited,
[01:16:10.440 --> 01:16:16.440]  which of course we turned in everything because, you know, we have nothing to hide.
[01:16:16.440 --> 01:16:20.440]  But I was kind of thinking, why are we being audited?
[01:16:20.440 --> 01:16:22.440]  We haven't even made over $2 million.
[01:16:22.440 --> 01:16:27.440]  So we had to hire a CPA, which is very costly,
[01:16:27.440 --> 01:16:37.440]  and it was one of the partners at Minot, that's the name of the law firm.
[01:16:37.440 --> 01:16:39.440]  Yeah, okay, hold on.
[01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:43.440]  This sounds like something ripe for a great lawsuit.
[01:16:43.440 --> 01:16:47.440]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
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[01:19:45.440 --> 01:19:51.440]  Randy Kelton, Red Fountain Blue Law Radio on this Friday, the second day of December
[01:19:51.440 --> 01:19:52.440]  2022.
[01:19:52.440 --> 01:19:58.440]  And we're talking to Mercedes in California.
[01:19:58.440 --> 01:20:02.440]  Over the break, Brett and I were speaking to this.
[01:20:02.440 --> 01:20:07.440]  And up to this point, we don't have a clue as to what's going on.
[01:20:07.440 --> 01:20:15.440]  Can you kind of give us a brief on the nature of the first case or the case you want to
[01:20:15.440 --> 01:20:16.440]  speak about?
[01:20:16.440 --> 01:20:17.440]  Okay.
[01:20:17.440 --> 01:20:20.440]  Well, the first case is important as well.
[01:20:20.440 --> 01:20:23.440]  I think I already know on the second one, I'll go ahead and file their form.
[01:20:23.440 --> 01:20:28.440]  But the first case, we had some donkeys surrendered to us.
[01:20:28.440 --> 01:20:34.440]  Like I said, we are a nonprofit and we take pretty much all the disabled animals and the
[01:20:34.440 --> 01:20:35.440]  retired animals.
[01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:38.440]  So we have all the senior animals basically that rescues do not even want.
[01:20:38.440 --> 01:20:44.440]  So these six donkeys were surrendered to us in 2016.
[01:20:44.440 --> 01:20:50.440]  Well, when we moved, we finally were able to purchase our location, which, you know,
[01:20:50.440 --> 01:20:52.440]  we're still paying on it.
[01:20:52.440 --> 01:20:55.440]  But we put a down payment and it's in our name.
[01:20:55.440 --> 01:21:01.440]  So once we moved to this location, which is a beautiful location, I don't know, it just
[01:21:01.440 --> 01:21:02.440]  caused a lot of jealousy.
[01:21:02.440 --> 01:21:08.440]  So when the founder of the person that had surrendered the donkeys, basically that's
[01:21:08.440 --> 01:21:09.440]  what she does.
[01:21:09.440 --> 01:21:13.440]  She just finds animals and says, okay, this is a good fit for Villa Chardonnay.
[01:21:13.440 --> 01:21:17.440]  This is a good fit for this person, you know, and such and such.
[01:21:17.440 --> 01:21:23.440]  Well, first things, they filed a lawsuit and they said it was breach of contract, which
[01:21:23.440 --> 01:21:25.440]  they couldn't find anything.
[01:21:25.440 --> 01:21:29.440]  Then they said a neglect of animals, which they sent animal control.
[01:21:29.440 --> 01:21:32.440]  Probably they've been on our property 16 hours.
[01:21:32.440 --> 01:21:34.440]  I mean, pretty much.
[01:21:34.440 --> 01:21:37.440]  You lost me there.
[01:21:37.440 --> 01:21:42.440]  All of a sudden they're making all of these accusations about aggressive animals.
[01:21:42.440 --> 01:21:47.440]  Somebody donates some animals to you and you accept them to care for them.
[01:21:47.440 --> 01:21:52.440]  They're saying that they mistreated the animals.
[01:21:52.440 --> 01:21:53.440]  Correct.
[01:21:53.440 --> 01:21:55.440]  They're just trying to come up with stuff.
[01:21:55.440 --> 01:21:58.440]  It sounds to me like malicious prosecution, frivolous.
[01:21:58.440 --> 01:22:00.440]  It's just empty, but malicious.
[01:22:00.440 --> 01:22:02.440]  They're trying to come up with stuff.
[01:22:02.440 --> 01:22:06.440]  One of the problems is pronouns.
[01:22:06.440 --> 01:22:07.440]  They.
[01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:09.440]  Who is they?
[01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:10.440]  Okay.
[01:22:10.440 --> 01:22:16.440]  The Arcwatch Foundation, Red Bull Run, I guess both of them together had gotten the
[01:22:16.440 --> 01:22:23.440]  donkeys from Texas, I guess, and they chose Villa Chardonnay to surrender the donkeys
[01:22:23.440 --> 01:22:24.440]  to.
[01:22:24.440 --> 01:22:27.440]  Well, like I said, she said there was breach of contract.
[01:22:27.440 --> 01:22:28.440]  There was nothing there.
[01:22:28.440 --> 01:22:32.440]  Then she tried to say it was because of neglect of animals, they sent animal control on us
[01:22:32.440 --> 01:22:33.440]  six different visits.
[01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:34.440]  One of the visits.
[01:22:34.440 --> 01:22:35.440]  Hold on.
[01:22:35.440 --> 01:22:36.440]  Aggressive animals.
[01:22:36.440 --> 01:22:37.440]  These are donkeys.
[01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:38.440]  Correct.
[01:22:38.440 --> 01:22:41.440]  Were these unruly donkeys?
[01:22:41.440 --> 01:22:43.440]  I said donkeys can really be aggressive.
[01:22:43.440 --> 01:22:45.440]  No, she didn't say aggressive.
[01:22:45.440 --> 01:22:47.440]  She said neglect of animals.
[01:22:47.440 --> 01:22:49.440]  Oh, I thought she said aggressive.
[01:22:49.440 --> 01:22:53.440]  Okay, so you had these animals for 16 hours?
[01:22:53.440 --> 01:22:56.440]  No, six years, since 2016.
[01:22:56.440 --> 01:22:59.440]  Oh, okay.
[01:22:59.440 --> 01:23:05.440]  They had a break-in warrant, and they ended up taking them, which that's another thing.
[01:23:05.440 --> 01:23:11.440]  The sheriff's department, they came, they broke in on the 29th.
[01:23:11.440 --> 01:23:15.440]  The paperwork from the sheriff's department was September 30th.
[01:23:15.440 --> 01:23:22.440]  We didn't receive it until like about October 12th, and the stamps on the envelope were
[01:23:22.440 --> 01:23:23.440]  not even canceled.
[01:23:23.440 --> 01:23:26.440]  So that right there, isn't that a federal crime?
[01:23:26.440 --> 01:23:30.440]  You cannot just place mail in somebody's mailbox without it being canceled.
[01:23:30.440 --> 01:23:32.440]  And there was two letters.
[01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:35.440]  So I don't think that's a correct answer.
[01:23:35.440 --> 01:23:37.440]  That's a federal crime.
[01:23:37.440 --> 01:23:41.440]  Correct.
[01:23:41.440 --> 01:23:46.440]  So they may have changed something, because now Federal Express and all these other
[01:23:46.440 --> 01:23:50.440]  delivery services are putting stuff in my box.
[01:23:50.440 --> 01:23:55.440]  But technically that's a federal crime, so I'm sure they've done something about that.
[01:23:55.440 --> 01:23:58.440]  But that is a separate issue.
[01:23:58.440 --> 01:24:02.440]  So you have these donkeys for six years.
[01:24:02.440 --> 01:24:04.440]  Correct.
[01:24:04.440 --> 01:24:14.440]  Okay, and they're claiming, did they make any contact with you before taking this action?
[01:24:14.440 --> 01:24:16.440]  Well, we didn't get any information.
[01:24:16.440 --> 01:24:18.440]  Well, we had three attorneys to begin with.
[01:24:18.440 --> 01:24:25.440]  The first attorney, it was conflict of interest, because he was seeing a former board member.
[01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:29.440]  The second attorney was already trying to negotiate giving the donkeys back, which we
[01:24:29.440 --> 01:24:31.440]  said, no, we're not giving them back.
[01:24:31.440 --> 01:24:33.440]  We've had them all this time.
[01:24:33.440 --> 01:24:35.440]  We haven't neglected them.
[01:24:35.440 --> 01:24:37.440]  We've taken great care of them.
[01:24:37.440 --> 01:24:40.440]  And no, it was no, we are an animal sanctuary.
[01:24:40.440 --> 01:24:42.440]  We are their voice.
[01:24:42.440 --> 01:24:47.440]  And then so then the third attorney, the third attorney we got, they were supposedly like
[01:24:47.440 --> 01:24:50.440]  specializing in animal rights.
[01:24:50.440 --> 01:24:54.440]  Well, she showed up drunk to the deposition.
[01:24:54.440 --> 01:24:56.440]  So after that, we were like, we were done.
[01:24:56.440 --> 01:24:57.440]  We were done with the attorneys.
[01:24:57.440 --> 01:25:02.440]  So then we just tried to challenge jurisdiction, but apparently we didn't do it correctly because
[01:25:02.440 --> 01:25:04.440]  everything got thrown out, thrown out.
[01:25:04.440 --> 01:25:08.440]  And as far as the break-in warrant, we weren't notified.
[01:25:08.440 --> 01:25:11.440]  We weren't notified of the hearing.
[01:25:11.440 --> 01:25:20.440]  So just all of a sudden we knew because some of the workers were saying, the cops are here.
[01:25:20.440 --> 01:25:22.440]  And I'm like, okay, I'm going to go to the gate.
[01:25:22.440 --> 01:25:26.440]  And they said, no, they already jumped over the gate.
[01:25:26.440 --> 01:25:30.440]  So they were in and they took the donkey.
[01:25:30.440 --> 01:25:36.440]  There was probably like 15 cops on the property, which it was, it made you feel like criminals.
[01:25:36.440 --> 01:25:38.440]  And we did nothing wrong.
[01:25:38.440 --> 01:25:40.440]  Okay.
[01:25:40.440 --> 01:25:44.440]  Did you file a criminal action against the officers?
[01:25:44.440 --> 01:25:46.440]  No, we didn't.
[01:25:46.440 --> 01:25:48.440]  We're just kind of like lost.
[01:25:48.440 --> 01:25:50.440]  We don't even know what's going on.
[01:25:50.440 --> 01:25:52.440]  Okay.
[01:25:52.440 --> 01:25:55.440]  This is what we do.
[01:25:55.440 --> 01:25:59.440]  We try to help people find remedy.
[01:25:59.440 --> 01:26:07.440]  And one of the things that concerned me in the beginning is that you're considering these public officials as enemies.
[01:26:07.440 --> 01:26:09.440]  They're not your enemies.
[01:26:09.440 --> 01:26:11.440]  They're busy.
[01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:13.440]  They've got stuff going on all the time.
[01:26:13.440 --> 01:26:21.440]  You know, we have people calling in and they feel like the system has singled them out for special retribution.
[01:26:21.440 --> 01:26:24.440]  And generally that's not the case.
[01:26:24.440 --> 01:26:33.440]  If they've done things wrong, it's generally because they're busy and it's from neglect, not from avarice.
[01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:40.440]  And generally sometimes it is avarice, and in those times you need to fight them.
[01:26:40.440 --> 01:26:52.440]  But if you can do this without a fight, first thing you need to say is what do I want as a ultimate outcome?
[01:26:52.440 --> 01:26:56.440]  What do you want here at the end of the day?
[01:26:56.440 --> 01:26:58.440]  Do you want the donkeys back?
[01:26:58.440 --> 01:27:02.440]  Do you want retribution against those who took the donkeys?
[01:27:02.440 --> 01:27:04.440]  What do you want?
[01:27:04.440 --> 01:27:09.440]  We would like the donkeys back as well as we would like these people to just leave us alone.
[01:27:09.440 --> 01:27:16.440]  These people have also called all the foundations that donated to us, and they no longer donate to us,
[01:27:16.440 --> 01:27:26.440]  which is easily probably $2 million, $3 million in funding that we have lost.
[01:27:26.440 --> 01:27:33.440]  So have they told them anything that was certifiably untrue?
[01:27:33.440 --> 01:27:37.440]  Well, yes, they said about the neglect of animals.
[01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:44.440]  When this gentleman that's helping us, he said, well, they do have an affidavit from a vet that says there was lack of care.
[01:27:44.440 --> 01:27:50.440]  Well, the one that I was reading from, it says he saw the video, and I'm thinking, what?
[01:27:50.440 --> 01:27:52.440]  We have our vets as well.
[01:27:52.440 --> 01:27:56.440]  We had an equine expert come even and examine the donkeys.
[01:27:56.440 --> 01:27:57.440]  We have our own vets.
[01:27:57.440 --> 01:28:02.440]  Our vet wouldn't have a key to our gate to come 24-7 whenever she wants to come.
[01:28:02.440 --> 01:28:07.440]  And I did mention to the judge, we actually are having a program at our sanctuary,
[01:28:07.440 --> 01:28:15.440]  and we had the second-in-command, the judge, come to our place as well as another judge from the same courthouse.
[01:28:15.440 --> 01:28:18.440]  And I told the judge, I said, do you think if we had neglect,
[01:28:18.440 --> 01:28:24.440]  do you think we're going to have officials from your colleagues come to our place?
[01:28:24.440 --> 01:28:30.440]  And do you think they're going to want their name with us if we are neglecting the animals?
[01:28:30.440 --> 01:28:33.440]  If it is, I mean, they wouldn't do that.
[01:28:33.440 --> 01:28:34.440]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:28:34.440 --> 01:28:38.440]  Something's wrong here.
[01:28:38.440 --> 01:28:48.440]  If you have been open and public with these people, what's the motivation?
[01:28:48.440 --> 01:28:49.440]  It is just jealousy.
[01:28:49.440 --> 01:28:52.440]  I know it's hard to believe.
[01:28:52.440 --> 01:28:54.440]  It's jealousy.
[01:28:54.440 --> 01:28:57.440]  Jealousy is women that are miserable.
[01:28:57.440 --> 01:29:05.440]  And this particular woman, she doesn't even – she has no hands-on with any of the animals.
[01:29:05.440 --> 01:29:06.440]  We are hands-on.
[01:29:06.440 --> 01:29:10.440]  I mean, we work 365, seven days a week.
[01:29:10.440 --> 01:29:15.440]  And what this woman does, she didn't even – when she took the donkeys,
[01:29:15.440 --> 01:29:17.440]  she didn't even keep them herself.
[01:29:17.440 --> 01:29:20.440]  She's given them to somebody else.
[01:29:20.440 --> 01:29:24.440]  Really, I don't know what the motive is.
[01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:27.440]  I mean, there's variables here that I don't have yet.
[01:29:27.440 --> 01:29:30.440]  Who is this woman?
[01:29:30.440 --> 01:29:33.440]  And what relationship does she have?
[01:29:33.440 --> 01:29:37.440]  He was the one that surrendered the animals to us.
[01:29:37.440 --> 01:29:39.440]  Okay, hang on.
[01:29:39.440 --> 01:29:40.440]  This is too complex.
[01:29:40.440 --> 01:29:42.440]  We're going to need a timeline.
[01:29:42.440 --> 01:29:43.440]  Hang on.
[01:29:43.440 --> 01:29:44.440]  Randy Kelton.
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[01:33:29.440 --> 01:33:57.440]  Okay, we are back in Kelton. We're at Fountain Rule of Law Radio, and I started my intro a little too soon there.
[01:33:57.440 --> 01:34:01.440]  I'm supposed to wait until the music drops down a little bit. My bad.
[01:34:01.440 --> 01:34:07.440]  And over the break, I was thinking that perhaps I got ahead of myself.
[01:34:07.440 --> 01:34:12.440]  Let me try unmuting again. My clock's messing up.
[01:34:12.440 --> 01:34:15.440]  Okay, that's unmuted.
[01:34:15.440 --> 01:34:24.440]  Mercedes, maybe I jumped the gun here. I was trying to figure out what the cases were about so I could better understand how to speak to you.
[01:34:24.440 --> 01:34:30.440]  I didn't really find out what you wanted from us.
[01:34:30.440 --> 01:34:41.440]  What do you want from us so I'll know if I need to pursue this part or not, so I can better get to the point?
[01:34:41.440 --> 01:34:46.440]  Guide us so that we are able to get the donkeys back?
[01:34:46.440 --> 01:34:53.440]  Yes, I need to know what you need from us.
[01:34:53.440 --> 01:34:57.440]  Guidance?
[01:34:57.440 --> 01:35:02.440]  I'm hoping for something a little more specific. Guidance in what regard?
[01:35:02.440 --> 01:35:08.440]  Guidance, she wants to get the donkeys back.
[01:35:08.440 --> 01:35:11.440]  Who has the donkeys?
[01:35:11.440 --> 01:35:37.440]  Well, it was the woman, Arcwatch Foundation, the ones that we had the court case against, that had the break-in warrant, the ones from the attorney general, that we were audited, that we were harassed as well with animal control, those two parties, retribution from the Arcwatch Foundation and from Red Bull Run.
[01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:43.440]  We are one of the biggest sanctuaries in the U.S. We have 500 animals, so it's not like just doing...
[01:35:43.440 --> 01:35:44.440]  Okay.
[01:35:44.440 --> 01:35:48.440]  Because if it was just for me, I wouldn't care. It's for the animals.
[01:35:48.440 --> 01:36:04.440]  We need then, for that, this is really too complex for a radio show. I need a timeline of events. Do you have a timeline of events?
[01:36:04.440 --> 01:36:08.440]  Like in 2020, December, we received a...
[01:36:08.440 --> 01:36:21.440]  No, no, no, no, no. It took too long to answer, so you don't have one. You need to keep a ledger with everything that happens, the date and this happened, the next date and this happened.
[01:36:21.440 --> 01:36:36.440]  When you get into issues, especially issues as large and complex as this, you, dealing with it, tend to move from one emotional high point to the next, to the next, to the next.
[01:36:36.440 --> 01:36:48.440]  And then sometimes you tell people about this. And when you're telling people about it, depending on the context, you may speak to issues in chronological order and you may not.
[01:36:48.440 --> 01:36:53.440]  You may jump around. And this goes to a problem with the way memory actually works.
[01:36:53.440 --> 01:36:54.440]  Okay.
[01:36:54.440 --> 01:37:03.440]  We have the impression that we go inside and pull memory out, read the memory and put it back. That's not the way it works.
[01:37:03.440 --> 01:37:10.440]  We pull memory out, we re-experience it, and we put back what we re-experienced.
[01:37:10.440 --> 01:37:18.440]  So if I'm telling you about something and certain facts and issues are not relevant, I don't speak to those facts and issues.
[01:37:18.440 --> 01:37:28.440]  Well, I put that memory back with those facts and issues missing. And it causes things to get real jumbled and confusing.
[01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:36.440]  So you need a list of everything that happened. You don't need a lot of explanation, just a little memory reminder.
[01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:40.440]  From this day this happened, then this happened, then this happened. Make a list.
[01:37:40.440 --> 01:37:41.440]  Okay.
[01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:49.440]  You will find it's extremely difficult to do that because you have to go back.
[01:37:49.440 --> 01:37:59.440]  It's pretty easy. You'll never use it in court, but you'll never get to court and have the lawyer say, wow, you got this out of place.
[01:37:59.440 --> 01:38:03.440]  That didn't happen. That happened over here. And then you get discredited.
[01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:15.440]  It helps you keep everything in order. And someone like me or Brett, we can go down the timeline because we will look at it from a different perspective than you do.
[01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:23.440]  You have a dog in this hunt, and that makes you less capable.
[01:38:23.440 --> 01:38:35.440]  I once defended myself, and I was so good at defending myself, the jury threw the book at me for an absolutely ludicrous charge.
[01:38:35.440 --> 01:38:50.440]  I had no business defending myself. I thought I was smart and knew all this law, but it was my issue, and I wasn't able to address it without being emotionally involved.
[01:38:50.440 --> 01:38:59.440]  I needed a timeline. You need a timeline. Once you have that timeline, then everything starts to get into place.
[01:38:59.440 --> 01:39:07.440]  You're telling me about this, and you're jumping from one thing to another to another, and I'm thinking, whoa, wait a minute.
[01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:12.440]  There has to be all kind of stuff in between there.
[01:39:12.440 --> 01:39:21.440]  They didn't go from nothing to all of a sudden coming in and taking your animals. There had to be a bunch of stuff in between.
[01:39:21.440 --> 01:39:29.440]  In order for us to be able to speak intelligently to it, we need to know all the steps.
[01:39:29.440 --> 01:39:34.440]  You look at it from the perspective of your business. Brett and I don't.
[01:39:34.440 --> 01:39:42.440]  We look at it from your relationship to the various legal functionaries.
[01:39:42.440 --> 01:39:51.440]  We're looking at it based on law, and there are things we'll pay attention to that you may not even knew that were important.
[01:39:51.440 --> 01:39:54.440]  The only way to get to them is with a timeline.
[01:39:54.440 --> 01:40:02.440]  You put this down, you will find this is the most valuable tool you can have, especially in something as complex as this.
[01:40:02.440 --> 01:40:18.440]  I suggest you take every document in your case and give the document a referential name, no matter what it is, and then follow that name with the international date.
[01:40:18.440 --> 01:40:29.440]  The international date format is year-month-day numerical.
[01:40:29.440 --> 01:40:41.440]  When you put the name of the case in and you put the date of the document in that order, year, month, day, and you drop that in a folder,
[01:40:41.440 --> 01:40:49.440]  all these documents will automatically organize themselves in chronological order.
[01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:55.440]  Then you go down these documents in order and you look at them and say, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:40:55.440 --> 01:41:07.440]  In between these two documents, this happened, this happened, this happened, so go to the clerk and get their docket sheet, the list of everything that's been filed.
[01:41:07.440 --> 01:41:17.440]  You start with that and then look before it, all the things that happened before it, and then look between each of the court happenings, the things that occurred in between.
[01:41:17.440 --> 01:41:18.440]  It takes a little while.
[01:41:18.440 --> 01:41:24.440]  It's a lot of work, but it will be the most valuable thing you've ever done.
[01:41:24.440 --> 01:41:31.440]  I do believe we have worked on the timeline with Kevin.
[01:41:31.440 --> 01:41:36.440]  At least that is through maybe January, I think.
[01:41:36.440 --> 01:41:45.440]  Pretty much after that, not much has happened because we fired the attorney, the third attorney in February.
[01:41:45.440 --> 01:41:52.440]  At least I'm pretty sure we have until January that the attorney had, like you said, a timeline.
[01:41:52.440 --> 01:41:55.440]  He did that, so I will look for that.
[01:41:55.440 --> 01:42:00.440]  As well, go to the docket and order that he's...
[01:42:00.440 --> 01:42:08.440]  Before you call next time, email me that timeline.
[01:42:08.440 --> 01:42:09.440]  Okay.
[01:42:09.440 --> 01:42:15.440]  Then when we talk, then you can reference, you reference something that happens, you can reference it on the timeline.
[01:42:15.440 --> 01:42:22.440]  Now I've got context, so I know how to understand what you're talking about.
[01:42:22.440 --> 01:42:29.440]  In this conversation, we've jumped from one thing to another to another, and I'm lost.
[01:42:29.440 --> 01:42:34.440]  I basically know what happened, but I don't have any head for how it happened.
[01:42:34.440 --> 01:42:36.440]  Does that make sense?
[01:42:36.440 --> 01:42:38.440]  Yes, it does.
[01:42:38.440 --> 01:42:47.440]  You know all those details in between, and where you use pronouns, you know exactly what those pronouns refer to.
[01:42:47.440 --> 01:42:49.440]  I don't, and I get lost.
[01:42:49.440 --> 01:42:51.440]  I hate pronouns.
[01:42:51.440 --> 01:42:57.440]  Acronyms and pronouns are the bane of my existence.
[01:42:57.440 --> 01:43:01.440]  So get us a timeline, and then call us next week.
[01:43:01.440 --> 01:43:02.440]  Okay, that sounds great.
[01:43:02.440 --> 01:43:03.440]  I will.
[01:43:03.440 --> 01:43:04.440]  Thank you.
[01:43:04.440 --> 01:43:08.440]  And Friday's best because we have four hours on Friday.
[01:43:08.440 --> 01:43:13.440]  Tuesday we only, I mean Thursday we only have two hours.
[01:43:13.440 --> 01:43:14.440]  Okay.
[01:43:14.440 --> 01:43:16.440]  I will definitely call back next Friday.
[01:43:16.440 --> 01:43:18.440]  Thank you all so much.
[01:43:18.440 --> 01:43:19.440]  Okay.
[01:43:19.440 --> 01:43:20.440]  Thank you, Mercedes.
[01:43:20.440 --> 01:43:21.440]  Okay.
[01:43:21.440 --> 01:43:23.440]  Now we're going to go to...
[01:43:23.440 --> 01:43:24.440]  We've got Jason.
[01:43:24.440 --> 01:43:25.440]  Who's next?
[01:43:25.440 --> 01:43:27.440]  Jason in Wisconsin.
[01:43:27.440 --> 01:43:28.440]  Yeah.
[01:43:28.440 --> 01:43:29.440]  Hello.
[01:43:29.440 --> 01:43:31.440]  Hello, Jason.
[01:43:31.440 --> 01:43:34.440]  I think I got you.
[01:43:34.440 --> 01:43:36.440]  Hello, Jason.
[01:43:36.440 --> 01:43:40.440]  What do you have for us today?
[01:43:40.440 --> 01:43:42.440]  I'm calling about the trial I had.
[01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:44.440]  Oh, well, wait a minute.
[01:43:44.440 --> 01:43:45.440]  Time's up.
[01:43:45.440 --> 01:43:50.440]  We gave you your shot, Jason, but you blew it.
[01:43:50.440 --> 01:43:51.440]  Okay.
[01:43:51.440 --> 01:43:52.440]  Hang on.
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[01:46:59.440 --> 01:47:02.440]  Randy Kelton, Brent Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:47:02.440 --> 01:47:04.440]  We're talking to Jason in Wisconsin.
[01:47:04.440 --> 01:47:09.440]  Okay, Jason, what do you have for us today?
[01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:13.440]  Okay, so I was calling about my trial I had a couple weeks ago
[01:47:13.440 --> 01:47:17.440]  for my two traffic tickets.
[01:47:17.440 --> 01:47:21.440]  No surprise, they found me guilty on both charges.
[01:47:21.440 --> 01:47:27.440]  So I was wondering if you think I have grounds to appeal it.
[01:47:27.440 --> 01:47:31.440]  I guess I can run through what happened at the trial first here.
[01:47:31.440 --> 01:47:34.440]  Brent, is he breaking up on your end?
[01:47:34.440 --> 01:47:36.440]  No, I'm hearing him okay.
[01:47:36.440 --> 01:47:40.440]  Okay, breaking up on my end, so it must be me.
[01:47:40.440 --> 01:47:43.440]  Okay, go ahead, Jason.
[01:47:43.440 --> 01:47:47.440]  Okay, I'll go through what happened at the trial here first.
[01:47:47.440 --> 01:47:55.440]  So first of all, the judge started out the trial by basically threatening me with contempt.
[01:47:55.440 --> 01:47:58.440]  Right off the bat before anything happened?
[01:47:58.440 --> 01:48:06.440]  Yeah, he essentially said something to the effect of if there's any outburst
[01:48:06.440 --> 01:48:12.440]  or if there's any speaking over anyone, you will be charged with contempt.
[01:48:12.440 --> 01:48:14.440]  And then as soon as he went through all that,
[01:48:14.440 --> 01:48:18.440]  of course at the end of it he said that applies to both sides, by the way.
[01:48:18.440 --> 01:48:22.440]  You know, to try to sound like he's not being biased.
[01:48:22.440 --> 01:48:24.440]  Right.
[01:48:24.440 --> 01:48:27.440]  Yeah, I know what he was implying there.
[01:48:27.440 --> 01:48:32.440]  So then he got into the motions I had filed.
[01:48:32.440 --> 01:48:37.440]  I had a motion for extension of time to seek counsel.
[01:48:37.440 --> 01:48:41.440]  He denied that right away and said, oh, you've had some students
[01:48:41.440 --> 01:48:48.440]  with these tickets, so I'm going to deny that, and just threw that out.
[01:48:48.440 --> 01:48:54.440]  Then he got to my motion to dismiss, and he started going into oral arguments on it,
[01:48:54.440 --> 01:49:01.440]  and I told him I object to oral arguments on the motions before the court.
[01:49:01.440 --> 01:49:03.440]  I stand that my motions are written.
[01:49:03.440 --> 01:49:07.440]  Every time he asks me a question about the motions, that's what I said to him.
[01:49:07.440 --> 01:49:11.440]  So then he denied my motion to dismiss.
[01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:14.440]  And then he, without giving me a chance to say anything,
[01:49:14.440 --> 01:49:16.440]  he went right into the trial and the merits right away,
[01:49:16.440 --> 01:49:21.440]  called the officer up to the stand without, you know,
[01:49:21.440 --> 01:49:25.440]  and because he threatened me with contempt, I didn't want to speak over anyone.
[01:49:25.440 --> 01:49:32.440]  So I waited until it was my turn to cross-examine, and then I raised some objections.
[01:49:32.440 --> 01:49:35.440]  There you go.
[01:49:35.440 --> 01:49:40.440]  So what I did is I started out by moving the court for recess
[01:49:40.440 --> 01:49:44.440]  to file an interlocutory appeal.
[01:49:44.440 --> 01:49:49.440]  I moved the court for finding a fax of conclusions of law.
[01:49:49.440 --> 01:49:51.440]  How about what?
[01:49:51.440 --> 01:49:57.440]  He had given some kind of intermediate ruling or declaration about something?
[01:49:57.440 --> 01:50:02.440]  As far as him denying the motion to dismiss, that's what I asked for.
[01:50:02.440 --> 01:50:05.440]  Okay.
[01:50:05.440 --> 01:50:08.440]  And then, of course, he denied both of those
[01:50:08.440 --> 01:50:13.440]  and proceeded to ask me if I had any witnesses I wanted to bring forward
[01:50:13.440 --> 01:50:16.440]  or anything to that effect.
[01:50:16.440 --> 01:50:19.440]  So at that point I said I object to arguments on the merits
[01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:24.440]  until the motion to dismiss can be properly addressed.
[01:50:24.440 --> 01:50:28.440]  And every time he asked me something going to the merits, that's what I said.
[01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:38.440]  And after that he made his ruling, and that was it.
[01:50:38.440 --> 01:50:46.440]  So I guess right now I'm trying to figure out where I stand as far as a possible appeal goes.
[01:50:46.440 --> 01:50:51.440]  Okay. Well, you said it's been a couple of weeks.
[01:50:51.440 --> 01:50:58.440]  Yeah, I know my time frame here is I have 20 days to file a motion for reconsideration
[01:50:58.440 --> 01:51:04.440]  and I have 45 days to file my notice of appeal.
[01:51:04.440 --> 01:51:07.440]  But I do want to get that all done before next Friday
[01:51:07.440 --> 01:51:11.440]  because I'm actually leaving the country for a month.
[01:51:11.440 --> 01:51:14.440]  Yeah, definitely want to jump on that.
[01:51:14.440 --> 01:51:19.440]  There are some things that right after a judgment, they call it post-trial motions,
[01:51:19.440 --> 01:51:25.440]  there are some things that you do will actually extend your deadline.
[01:51:25.440 --> 01:51:30.440]  You have a deadline to write your appellate brief,
[01:51:30.440 --> 01:51:38.440]  and whatever you have in Wisconsin there for a number of days, 45 days or something,
[01:51:38.440 --> 01:51:43.440]  is probably going to get extended by certain things that you file,
[01:51:43.440 --> 01:51:46.440]  like a request for findings and conclusions.
[01:51:46.440 --> 01:51:53.440]  You know, what facts and law did that judge depend on when he decided to rule the way he did?
[01:51:53.440 --> 01:52:01.440]  And that would be a deadline extending motion or request that's filing.
[01:52:01.440 --> 01:52:07.440]  A request is not exactly a motion because motions go to the court,
[01:52:07.440 --> 01:52:12.440]  and the request for findings of fact and conclusions of law goes to that judge,
[01:52:12.440 --> 01:52:16.440]  the judge that issued that ruling, almost the same thing.
[01:52:16.440 --> 01:52:19.440]  But a motion for new trial does this.
[01:52:19.440 --> 01:52:26.440]  When you tell the court, I move for a new trial, and here's why,
[01:52:26.440 --> 01:52:30.440]  and you put some bullet points in there, give some grounds for why,
[01:52:30.440 --> 01:52:32.440]  the court should grant you a new trial.
[01:52:32.440 --> 01:52:38.440]  When you do that, you're extending your own deadline to write the appellate brief.
[01:52:38.440 --> 01:52:40.440]  Does that make sense?
[01:52:40.440 --> 01:52:44.440]  Yeah, is a motion for a new trial, is that the same as a motion for reconsideration,
[01:52:44.440 --> 01:52:47.440]  or are those two different things?
[01:52:47.440 --> 01:52:49.440]  They're pretty similar.
[01:52:49.440 --> 01:52:53.440]  You are going to put the same grounds into either one,
[01:52:53.440 --> 01:52:57.440]  but the motion for new trial is basically saying you want another hearing,
[01:52:57.440 --> 01:53:01.440]  you want to have your day in court again.
[01:53:01.440 --> 01:53:06.440]  And they usually don't grant those, but the reconsideration,
[01:53:06.440 --> 01:53:10.440]  the only thing that's different about that is that they will reconsider
[01:53:10.440 --> 01:53:12.440]  without dragging everybody over there.
[01:53:12.440 --> 01:53:17.440]  They will go over the same facts or the pleadings that you had,
[01:53:17.440 --> 01:53:25.440]  and they'll look at it again.
[01:53:25.440 --> 01:53:27.440]  It's not that they're going to just start all over,
[01:53:27.440 --> 01:53:31.440]  but they also will take a look at the grounds that you've offered,
[01:53:31.440 --> 01:53:36.440]  and you say, hey, here's the way you should have ruled based on this and this and that,
[01:53:36.440 --> 01:53:42.440]  and this was misconstrued and that was inadmissible.
[01:53:42.440 --> 01:53:49.440]  You point out the things that would show up in the appellate court as reversible error,
[01:53:49.440 --> 01:53:54.440]  and you point it out to them because they would like to fix that themselves
[01:53:54.440 --> 01:54:00.440]  rather than be embarrassed by having it overturned later.
[01:54:00.440 --> 01:54:06.440]  Okay, so if I file a motion for new trial or a motion for reconsideration,
[01:54:06.440 --> 01:54:09.440]  can I go ahead and file my notice of appeal right away,
[01:54:09.440 --> 01:54:11.440]  or do I have to wait for a response to those,
[01:54:11.440 --> 01:54:16.440]  and what's the timeframe I should wait for a response to those?
[01:54:16.440 --> 01:54:21.440]  Yeah, those are questions that are best answered by looking at your local,
[01:54:21.440 --> 01:54:24.440]  your rules in Wisconsin.
[01:54:24.440 --> 01:54:27.440]  Let me comment on that.
[01:54:27.440 --> 01:54:32.440]  If there is a question, go ahead and file a notice of intent to appeal.
[01:54:32.440 --> 01:54:37.440]  If you file a notice of intent to appeal prematurely,
[01:54:37.440 --> 01:54:42.440]  then it rests in the record until it's right.
[01:54:42.440 --> 01:54:49.440]  If you don't and you should have filed it, then you've ran out of time.
[01:54:49.440 --> 01:54:52.440]  Yeah, I think I'd rather use the strategy of filing ahead of time
[01:54:52.440 --> 01:54:56.440]  because like I said, I'm going to be leaving the country in about a week,
[01:54:56.440 --> 01:55:04.440]  so whenever I can get filed before I leave, that's going to be better.
[01:55:04.440 --> 01:55:09.440]  So I've been told that I should also file written objections,
[01:55:09.440 --> 01:55:14.440]  basically the objections I raise in court, file them in writing.
[01:55:14.440 --> 01:55:17.440]  I'm wondering exactly how I...
[01:55:17.440 --> 01:55:24.440]  Some jurisdictions require all objections in writing.
[01:55:24.440 --> 01:55:27.440]  You can file them, it depends on your local jurisdiction,
[01:55:27.440 --> 01:55:33.440]  but if you put them in writing, there's not a problem.
[01:55:33.440 --> 01:55:37.440]  So I would opt for the safe side.
[01:55:37.440 --> 01:55:38.440]  What form should that be in?
[01:55:38.440 --> 01:55:41.440]  Is that like a motion or what would that be called?
[01:55:41.440 --> 01:55:45.440]  Yeah, it looks almost exactly like a motion if you just have one.
[01:55:45.440 --> 01:55:49.440]  You might check and see if they handle something like a bill of exceptions,
[01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:54.440]  which is like just a laundry list of problems that happened in that hearing.
[01:55:54.440 --> 01:55:58.440]  Here's the deal about motions.
[01:55:58.440 --> 01:56:02.440]  It doesn't make any difference what you call a motion.
[01:56:02.440 --> 01:56:07.440]  A motion is what it is, and if you mistitle it, it makes no difference.
[01:56:07.440 --> 01:56:12.440]  I just titled a motion an opposition to recusal.
[01:56:12.440 --> 01:56:18.440]  But in fact, what it really was was a challenge to the subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:56:18.440 --> 01:56:21.440]  And they have to treat it for what it is.
[01:56:21.440 --> 01:56:25.440]  So call it whatever you want to.
[01:56:25.440 --> 01:56:29.440]  And if they have a rule that requires it to be called a certain thing,
[01:56:29.440 --> 01:56:32.440]  then they can call it whatever they want to.
[01:56:32.440 --> 01:56:37.440]  But don't miss getting your document filed over the title.
[01:56:37.440 --> 01:56:43.440]  And think of motions as business letters to the court.
[01:56:43.440 --> 01:56:46.440]  They just have a different heading.
[01:56:46.440 --> 01:56:51.440]  Use the court's heading and whatever you want to tell the court,
[01:56:51.440 --> 01:56:53.440]  you tell the court in your motion.
[01:56:53.440 --> 01:56:56.440]  But the one thing that's different,
[01:56:56.440 --> 01:57:01.440]  in order to have the court do what you want the court to do,
[01:57:01.440 --> 01:57:04.440]  you have to move the court.
[01:57:04.440 --> 01:57:06.440]  And that's why they call it a motion.
[01:57:06.440 --> 01:57:11.440]  I had a guy contact me because he's been sued by a credit card company.
[01:57:11.440 --> 01:57:13.440]  And I read their pleading, and he said, what do you think?
[01:57:13.440 --> 01:57:16.440]  I said, they don't have a prayer.
[01:57:16.440 --> 01:57:18.440]  They said, well, why not?
[01:57:18.440 --> 01:57:19.440]  I don't know.
[01:57:19.440 --> 01:57:21.440]  They don't have one.
[01:57:21.440 --> 01:57:24.440]  They told the judge what a no good rotten deadbeat you are,
[01:57:24.440 --> 01:57:29.440]  and he vilified you all over the place, but they had no prayer.
[01:57:29.440 --> 01:57:33.440]  They didn't ask the judge to do anything.
[01:57:33.440 --> 01:57:36.440]  So no matter what the judge wanted to do,
[01:57:36.440 --> 01:57:41.440]  if they did not move him to do it, he can't do it.
[01:57:41.440 --> 01:57:44.440]  So that's the only real difference between a business letter
[01:57:44.440 --> 01:57:48.440]  or any other letter and a motion.
[01:57:48.440 --> 01:57:51.440]  You tell them all the reasons why he should do what you want him to do,
[01:57:51.440 --> 01:57:55.440]  and then at the bottom you say you move the court,
[01:57:55.440 --> 01:58:01.440]  pray of the court, and order doing this.
[01:58:01.440 --> 01:58:03.440]  That's basically a motion.
[01:58:03.440 --> 01:58:07.440]  So if you just want to inform the court,
[01:58:07.440 --> 01:58:13.440]  just put in a notice of objection.
[01:58:13.440 --> 01:58:15.440]  Fill it out.
[01:58:15.440 --> 01:58:20.440]  If they don't like the title, they can change it.
[01:58:20.440 --> 01:58:21.440]  Does that make sense?
[01:58:21.440 --> 01:58:23.440]  That makes sense.
[01:58:23.440 --> 01:58:28.440]  Don't get hung up and waste time on that kind of junk.
[01:58:28.440 --> 01:58:30.440]  If they want a different title, they'll tell you,
[01:58:30.440 --> 01:58:33.440]  and you can put it on there, and they'll be fine.
[01:58:33.440 --> 01:58:37.440]  But get it in, whatever you do, don't be late.
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