[00:00.000 --> 00:05.500] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution. [00:05.500 --> 00:09.500] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [00:09.500 --> 00:11.000] Our liberty depends on it. [00:11.000 --> 00:16.500] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember your First Amendment rights. [00:16.500 --> 00:18.500] Privacy is under attack. [00:18.500 --> 00:22.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [00:22.000 --> 00:27.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [00:27.000 --> 00:32.000] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself. [00:32.000 --> 00:34.500] Privacy. It's worth hanging on to. [00:34.500 --> 00:38.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com, [00:38.000 --> 00:42.000] the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [00:42.000 --> 00:45.500] Start over with Startpage. [00:45.500 --> 00:50.500] Most of us know that taking the Fifth means you're choosing to remain silent about a criminal matter. [00:50.500 --> 00:55.000] It's a good way to remember that the Fifth Amendment spells out what can and can't happen to you [00:55.000 --> 00:57.000] when you're accused of a criminal offense. [00:57.000 --> 01:02.000] The Fifth guarantees due process, prohibits trying someone more than once for the same crime, [01:02.000 --> 01:04.000] and lets you keep your mouth shut. [01:04.000 --> 01:09.000] The Founding Fathers inserted these constitutional provisions to protect citizens from torture. [01:09.000 --> 01:13.500] Back in the day, governments often used painful methods to extract confessions. [01:13.500 --> 01:18.000] The Fifth Amendment also prohibits the government from taking your house and land without paying you for it. [01:18.000 --> 01:20.000] That used to happen a lot too. [01:20.000 --> 01:25.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:31.000 --> 01:35.000] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution [01:35.000 --> 01:39.000] that guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [01:39.000 --> 01:41.000] Our liberty depends on it. [01:41.000 --> 01:47.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights. [01:47.000 --> 01:52.000] Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [01:52.000 --> 01:57.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [01:57.000 --> 02:02.000] So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [02:02.000 --> 02:05.000] Privacy. It's worth hanging on to. [02:05.000 --> 02:08.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, [02:08.000 --> 02:12.000] the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [02:12.000 --> 02:15.000] Start over with StartPage. [02:15.000 --> 02:18.000] The number 666 reminds me of evil. [02:18.000 --> 02:23.000] I also associate it with the sick feeling one might get when falsely accused of a heinous crime [02:23.000 --> 02:27.000] or when thinking about sickos who actually do commit acts of murder and mayhem. [02:27.000 --> 02:31.000] Either way, the number 666 can help you remember that the Sixth Amendment [02:31.000 --> 02:36.000] deals with the constitutionally guaranteed rights Americans have in a criminal trial. [02:36.000 --> 02:40.000] Those include the right to a speedy public trial, the right to an impartial jury, [02:40.000 --> 02:45.000] the right to full information about the charges, the right to an attorney, [02:45.000 --> 02:47.000] and the right to confront any witnesses face to face. [02:47.000 --> 02:52.000] 666, sick, sickos, and the Sixth Amendment. Get it? [02:52.000 --> 03:11.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [03:22.000 --> 03:27.000] What are you gonna do? [03:27.000 --> 03:30.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do? [03:30.000 --> 03:32.000] What are you gonna do when they come for you? [03:32.000 --> 03:35.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do? [03:35.000 --> 03:38.000] What are you gonna do when they come for you? [03:38.000 --> 03:41.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits, [03:41.000 --> 03:43.000] you'd go to school and learn the golden rule. [03:43.000 --> 03:46.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool? [03:46.000 --> 03:49.000] If you get in your master's crew. [03:49.000 --> 03:51.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do? [03:51.000 --> 03:54.000] What are you gonna do when they come for you? [03:54.000 --> 03:57.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do? [03:57.000 --> 04:00.000] What are you gonna do when they come for you? [04:00.000 --> 04:02.000] You took it on that one. You took it on this one. [04:02.000 --> 04:05.000] You took it on your mother and you took it on your father. [04:05.000 --> 04:08.000] You took it on your brother and you took it on your sister. [04:08.000 --> 04:09.000] You took it on that one. [04:09.000 --> 04:17.000] Good evening. This is the Rule of Law Radio on Thursday, the 20th of October, 2022. [04:17.000 --> 04:21.000] And we don't have Randy with us this evening. [04:21.000 --> 04:31.000] So I'm gonna start out by just telling a few details on how you can help us help you. [04:31.000 --> 04:33.000] Let's put it like that. [04:33.000 --> 04:38.000] I get a lot of calls and a lot of people reaching out on different platforms [04:38.000 --> 04:40.000] and they're wanting some help, [04:40.000 --> 04:45.000] but they don't know what information I need to know up front in order to help them. [04:45.000 --> 04:48.000] So there's usually some extra back and forth. [04:48.000 --> 04:51.000] And hopefully people don't get too frustrated about that [04:51.000 --> 04:58.000] when they're in the middle of a difficult moment, a difficult situation. [04:58.000 --> 05:02.000] Sometimes it's stressful, right? [05:02.000 --> 05:10.000] Most of us have experienced how difficult it can be to try to convey to somebody else, [05:10.000 --> 05:16.000] especially somebody you don't even know, can't even see, and to try to convey what's going on. [05:16.000 --> 05:21.000] And a lot of times the things that get communicated are, [05:21.000 --> 05:27.000] I really wasn't going 110 miles an hour or, [05:27.000 --> 05:30.000] or, Audis, she attacked me first. [05:30.000 --> 05:36.000] Things that really can't get to the issue that we need to deal with. [05:36.000 --> 05:44.000] And there's a whole lot of, I guess, feeling or assumption [05:44.000 --> 05:52.000] that if we can just prove how wrong the other person was in whatever the situation was, [05:52.000 --> 06:01.000] then somehow, magically, the accusations against oneself would disappear. [06:01.000 --> 06:07.000] And nobody really logically thinks that through and comes to that conclusion and says it that way, [06:07.000 --> 06:11.000] but that's the sense that people tend to have. [06:11.000 --> 06:13.000] If you could just point the finger and say, [06:13.000 --> 06:17.000] look, they didn't even give me a chance, they kicked me off the property [06:17.000 --> 06:21.000] and didn't even give me a chance to wear the mask or whatever is the thing. [06:21.000 --> 06:32.000] And it takes some mental discipline to kind of sort through these various facts that don't get you anywhere [06:32.000 --> 06:40.000] and to instead begin to focus on what the real issues are, [06:40.000 --> 06:43.000] the issues that are going to get you some traction. [06:43.000 --> 06:48.000] And what those are relate to what the accusation is. [06:48.000 --> 06:59.000] So there are some step-by-step or maybe I should just say some basic things that I tend to ask people for. [06:59.000 --> 07:02.000] And let's just talk about some of those for a minute. [07:02.000 --> 07:06.000] I want you to give me just enough context. [07:06.000 --> 07:11.000] You don't need to give me a novel, just enough context. [07:11.000 --> 07:14.000] Hey, what's this about? [07:14.000 --> 07:19.000] I want to know some who, what, when and where basics, [07:19.000 --> 07:27.000] but I don't want to go off in the weeds about all this stuff that you can't look it up in the law [07:27.000 --> 07:36.000] and find here's the offense, here's what you're accused of, here are the controlling factors. [07:36.000 --> 07:38.000] We need to get to that part pretty quickly. [07:38.000 --> 07:43.000] And so if you can be succinct, then that really helps. [07:43.000 --> 07:46.000] So who, what, when and where? [07:46.000 --> 07:48.000] I want to know what do I call you? [07:48.000 --> 07:54.000] Sometimes people are really dodgy, they don't know who they can trust [07:54.000 --> 07:58.000] and they want to just go by a letter or something. [07:58.000 --> 07:59.000] Well, that's okay. [07:59.000 --> 08:03.000] But I want to have something that I can call you. [08:03.000 --> 08:06.000] It could be a nickname, first name, doesn't have to be your name, something. [08:06.000 --> 08:13.000] And are you asking about you yourself or if not you, what's your relationship? [08:13.000 --> 08:16.000] Are you asking for a friend, really for a friend? [08:16.000 --> 08:19.000] Are you asking because it's your daughter? [08:19.000 --> 08:22.000] Is your daughter a minor? [08:22.000 --> 08:26.000] Yes, she got into this traffic situation and this happened and that happened. [08:26.000 --> 08:30.000] Oh, well then maybe you can get your daughter to jump on Telegram [08:30.000 --> 08:33.000] or your daughter to send me an email and ask about this or that. [08:33.000 --> 08:36.000] Or we can do a, you know, put it three-way, [08:36.000 --> 08:43.000] send it up so that there's a communication that is more direct. [08:43.000 --> 08:48.000] But yeah, if it's you, if it's you're asking for your husband, your wife, [08:48.000 --> 08:53.000] it really helps to kind of paint the picture in a basic sort of way. [08:53.000 --> 08:56.000] And who's the opposing party? [08:56.000 --> 08:59.000] Another part of who is who's coming after you? [08:59.000 --> 09:00.000] Is somebody coming after you? [09:00.000 --> 09:02.000] You going after somebody else? [09:02.000 --> 09:03.000] Who is this? [09:03.000 --> 09:09.000] You're the landlord and one of your tenants is burning things in the backyard, [09:09.000 --> 09:11.000] causing trouble with the city. [09:11.000 --> 09:14.000] Who's the opposing party? [09:14.000 --> 09:18.000] So that little bit of basics helps with who. [09:18.000 --> 09:20.000] And if these are, if it's a traffic situation, [09:20.000 --> 09:26.000] you've got some police officers or deputy sheriffs or somebody, [09:26.000 --> 09:29.000] how many of them were there? [09:29.000 --> 09:30.000] Are we talking about one? [09:30.000 --> 09:34.000] Are we talking about there was one woman, she was the officer, [09:34.000 --> 09:36.000] she's a resting officer, she did this, this and this. [09:36.000 --> 09:37.000] Okay, great. [09:37.000 --> 09:42.000] Then we know that it's just her that we're talking about. [09:42.000 --> 09:45.000] Or if there was a group of seven of them, that makes a big difference. [09:45.000 --> 09:50.000] When you want to kind of figure out what's going on and begin to address it, [09:50.000 --> 09:51.000] that's great. [09:51.000 --> 09:53.000] That's part of who. [09:53.000 --> 09:58.000] And then moving on in the who, what, when, where. [09:58.000 --> 10:02.000] What is the nature and cause of this issue? [10:02.000 --> 10:05.000] Nature would be, is this a civil thing? [10:05.000 --> 10:10.000] You're like the neighborhood, you have your HOA. [10:10.000 --> 10:13.000] Is this a, are you suing somebody? [10:13.000 --> 10:15.000] Is somebody suing you? [10:15.000 --> 10:18.000] Is it a criminal issue? [10:18.000 --> 10:22.000] Traffic, depending on different states, I'll get to the where in just a moment, [10:22.000 --> 10:30.000] but depending on different states, traffic is treated as either a crime [10:30.000 --> 10:34.000] or as a suitable infraction. [10:34.000 --> 10:38.000] That's really good to know up front what we're dealing with because whole [10:38.000 --> 10:45.000] different sets of rules come into play on how you're going to respond to this. [10:45.000 --> 10:46.000] All right. [10:46.000 --> 10:52.000] So within, so that's the nature. [10:52.000 --> 10:59.000] The cause would be like somebody is accusing you of this particular crime, [10:59.000 --> 11:03.000] and it really helps to kind of get all of that up front as here's a little [11:03.000 --> 11:05.000] package of information that's actionable. [11:05.000 --> 11:06.000] We can work with this. [11:06.000 --> 11:10.000] When I read over it, or even if there have been 30 other people, [11:10.000 --> 11:14.000] and then I go back and I'm looking, what was this? [11:14.000 --> 11:15.000] Janet, Janet, Janet. [11:15.000 --> 11:16.000] What was it about, Janet? [11:16.000 --> 11:18.000] What did she need? [11:18.000 --> 11:19.000] And it helps. [11:19.000 --> 11:21.000] If it's all right there, it's really great. [11:21.000 --> 11:24.000] We can get back up to speed really quickly. [11:24.000 --> 11:30.000] If I gave Janet some homework, then we can see how far did she make it on [11:30.000 --> 11:34.000] whatever, collecting this record or that record. [11:34.000 --> 11:39.000] So yeah, anyway, nature and cause. [11:39.000 --> 11:42.000] One thing I like to ask, if there's a traffic citation, [11:42.000 --> 11:50.000] does it say on there that you need to appear in some court on or before? [11:50.000 --> 11:52.000] There's a phrase that will say on there, [11:52.000 --> 11:54.000] and usually connected with the citation, [11:54.000 --> 12:00.000] they like to tack on a promise to appear, or sometimes it's a notice to appear. [12:00.000 --> 12:02.000] And take a look at that. [12:02.000 --> 12:05.000] Just zoom in on it real quickly and figure out, [12:05.000 --> 12:09.000] does it say on or before a certain date or term, [12:09.000 --> 12:12.000] or does it say at a certain date or term? [12:12.000 --> 12:16.000] That can be helpful to figure out what's your next step. [12:16.000 --> 12:20.000] And what will happen if you don't do anything? [12:20.000 --> 12:23.000] Has something been threatened? [12:23.000 --> 12:28.000] Did you receive a letter that says you have 10 days to do such and such, [12:28.000 --> 12:30.000] or else this is going to happen? [12:30.000 --> 12:33.000] So that's good to know up front. [12:33.000 --> 12:35.000] What will happen? [12:35.000 --> 12:41.000] Another what is what outcome are you seeking? [12:41.000 --> 12:53.000] You in your heart of hearts have some kind of an idea of where you would like to go with this problem that you're presenting. [12:53.000 --> 12:56.000] And I don't know, we don't know, whoever wants to help you. [12:56.000 --> 13:01.000] We can't just guess, and necessarily we might not get it right. [13:01.000 --> 13:04.000] We don't know, do you just want this to go away? [13:04.000 --> 13:06.000] Some people are like, oh, this is so uncomfortable. [13:06.000 --> 13:07.000] I don't like it. [13:07.000 --> 13:08.000] I don't want it. [13:08.000 --> 13:09.000] I want it to go away. [13:09.000 --> 13:11.000] Well, does that mean you want to pay to make it go away? [13:11.000 --> 13:12.000] Well, sure. [13:12.000 --> 13:13.000] If I have to, okay. [13:13.000 --> 13:18.000] So then that puts you in a category of being able to have these options available to you. [13:18.000 --> 13:21.000] Somebody else might be operating on principle and say, [13:21.000 --> 13:26.000] I don't care that they'll dismiss everything and leave me alone for five bucks. [13:26.000 --> 13:28.000] I'm not doing it. [13:28.000 --> 13:30.000] It's just not right. [13:30.000 --> 13:32.000] I won't put up with it. [13:32.000 --> 13:36.000] Okay, so that helps to understand that up front [13:36.000 --> 13:41.000] and puts you in a category of which options are available to you there. [13:41.000 --> 13:47.000] All right, and the final what is what have you done so far? [13:47.000 --> 13:50.000] What actions have you taken? [13:50.000 --> 13:53.000] Did you already go down and see the court clerk? [13:53.000 --> 13:57.000] Did the court clerk talk you into signing something, entering a plea, [13:57.000 --> 13:59.000] even though they don't have any documents yet? [13:59.000 --> 14:00.000] Can you just go ahead and enter a plea? [14:00.000 --> 14:04.000] Oh, yeah, if you want to talk to the judge, you have to sign this. [14:04.000 --> 14:07.000] Well, it's really good to know that up front. [14:07.000 --> 14:09.000] And you come to me and you're looking for some help. [14:09.000 --> 14:11.000] I want to know what happened. [14:11.000 --> 14:14.000] Not just what happened on the side of the road [14:14.000 --> 14:18.000] or what happened in altercation in your yard, [14:18.000 --> 14:22.000] but what have you done about it so far? [14:22.000 --> 14:27.000] What's happened since the moment that's burned into your brain? [14:27.000 --> 14:30.000] Okay, so then we have when. [14:30.000 --> 14:35.000] You know, we talk a lot about timelines, [14:35.000 --> 14:39.000] and a comprehensive timeline would be amazing. [14:39.000 --> 14:42.000] That would be really great. [14:42.000 --> 14:43.000] Most people have trouble. [14:43.000 --> 14:45.000] That's like a big hurdle. [14:45.000 --> 14:48.000] And it's super helpful if you have it. [14:48.000 --> 14:50.000] It'll be helpful to you too. [14:50.000 --> 14:52.000] But at least if you don't have it yet, [14:52.000 --> 14:57.000] at least if you could tell me when the main event happened. [14:57.000 --> 15:01.000] There's some kind of occurrence that kicked everything off, [15:01.000 --> 15:06.000] lit the fuse, and everything after that is happening since then. [15:06.000 --> 15:12.000] So at least if you can identify when that was. [15:12.000 --> 15:14.000] Where? [15:14.000 --> 15:17.000] Where are you located? [15:17.000 --> 15:19.000] Where did the issue arise? [15:19.000 --> 15:25.000] I know it sounds basic and maybe even sounds trite to have to ask this, [15:25.000 --> 15:30.000] but a lot of times people will not bring this up, [15:30.000 --> 15:33.000] and there has to be a little bit of back and forth before they figure out, [15:33.000 --> 15:37.000] oh, well, yeah, I live in Arizona, but this happened in California. [15:37.000 --> 15:40.000] Well, then we need to pay attention to what the California laws [15:40.000 --> 15:45.000] and the California court rules say, and there's procedures that go in California. [15:45.000 --> 15:49.000] Does California consider this to be a crime or a civil matter, [15:49.000 --> 15:52.000] whereas in Arizona they might consider it the opposite? [15:52.000 --> 15:57.000] We have to figure that out just to determine what territorial jurisdictions [15:57.000 --> 16:03.000] will come into play and be able to apply the right laws, [16:03.000 --> 16:07.000] rules, statutes, codes, all of that. [16:07.000 --> 16:11.000] It also helps to know in this where, [16:11.000 --> 16:15.000] it helps to know if this happened a long way from your home, [16:15.000 --> 16:19.000] then that could kind of color how do you want to handle this [16:19.000 --> 16:26.000] because maybe it's not so convenient and easy for you to get to either the court, [16:26.000 --> 16:30.000] a court clerk, you need to ask some questions of people, [16:30.000 --> 16:32.000] which normally it's best to do in person, [16:32.000 --> 16:37.000] but if you live 400 miles away, maybe we could figure out ways to do that [16:37.000 --> 16:43.000] that doesn't involve your unnecessary travel expenses and all that. [16:43.000 --> 16:49.000] So that's kind of hitting the high points there of how you can help us help you. [16:49.000 --> 16:55.000] Hopefully that is helpful, and we'll be right back after these sponsors. 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[18:50.000 --> 18:54.000] So tune in to Scripture Talk live on LogosRadioNetwork.com [18:54.000 --> 19:00.000] on Wednesdays from 8 to 10 p.m. to inspire and motivate your studies of the Scriptures. [19:24.000 --> 19:27.000] All right. We are back. [19:27.000 --> 19:29.000] This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. [19:29.000 --> 19:36.000] I'm Brett Fountain, and this is the 20th of October, Thursday evening, October 2022. [19:36.000 --> 19:42.000] I've opened up the phone lines, and let's see. [19:42.000 --> 19:47.000] One other thing that I probably would like to mention about helping you, [19:47.000 --> 19:52.000] help yourself, actually, is about timelines. [19:52.000 --> 19:54.000] We talk a lot about timelines, right? [19:54.000 --> 19:58.000] Well, it's kind of difficult for people. [19:58.000 --> 20:01.000] It's a mental obstacle as well, and I get it. [20:01.000 --> 20:04.000] I've had a hard time with it myself. [20:04.000 --> 20:10.000] You have to kind of relive things, go through and remember [20:10.000 --> 20:13.000] all of the uncomfortable things that happened. [20:13.000 --> 20:15.000] Yeah, threw me on the ground, dragged me through the glass. [20:15.000 --> 20:17.000] That was horrible. [20:17.000 --> 20:20.000] And then they wanted to do a full-body search, all orifices. [20:20.000 --> 20:23.000] This is crazy. It's way out of control. [20:23.000 --> 20:24.000] What in the world? [20:24.000 --> 20:26.000] And it's really bad. [20:26.000 --> 20:29.000] It's hard to do that, memory-wise. [20:29.000 --> 20:35.000] Well, let me just speak to a few simple things you can consider [20:35.000 --> 20:41.000] in putting timelines together, simple timelines. [20:41.000 --> 20:47.000] First, let me tell you about each entry you're going to make, [20:47.000 --> 20:50.000] and then we'll talk about the sources. [20:50.000 --> 20:56.000] So each entry is simply going to have date and time. [20:56.000 --> 20:59.000] You might think of it simply like subject-verb-object. [20:59.000 --> 21:01.000] Think of what happened. [21:01.000 --> 21:03.000] Don't put a lot of detail into it. [21:03.000 --> 21:05.000] This is not a place for paragraphs. [21:05.000 --> 21:09.000] This is a place for even smaller than a tweet. [21:09.000 --> 21:15.000] This is really just a brief, tiny little headline. [21:15.000 --> 21:26.000] And you want to say, I filed an objection to whatever, and just tiny. [21:26.000 --> 21:30.000] I raised an exception to the charging instrument. [21:30.000 --> 21:33.000] So those kinds of things and put a date and time in front of it. [21:33.000 --> 21:35.000] If there's a document that's associated with that, [21:35.000 --> 21:41.000] then you might make a note of the document ID. [21:41.000 --> 21:46.000] I think about putting IDs on all of my documents. [21:46.000 --> 21:55.000] And you might also note sometimes these lawyers are sneaky, sly, slimy. [21:55.000 --> 21:56.000] I know. [21:56.000 --> 22:00.000] You're not going to believe it, but sometimes they will send you something. [22:00.000 --> 22:04.000] And let's say it says on the document, you open up the letter, [22:04.000 --> 22:10.000] and it says right there at the top of the document, October 7. [22:10.000 --> 22:17.000] But then you look at the postmark on the envelope, and it says October 14. [22:17.000 --> 22:26.000] Well, surely the envelope didn't come later than the document that was inside it. [22:26.000 --> 22:31.000] So when I make a timeline entry, if there's a discrepancy like that, [22:31.000 --> 22:34.000] I like to make a note of it right there. [22:34.000 --> 22:41.000] I would say one might be that I received the document, and the other would say the date on the document. [22:41.000 --> 22:46.000] Or you could put them in together as one line and just put in parentheses, [22:46.000 --> 22:49.000] October 14 received such and such document. [22:49.000 --> 22:53.000] And then in parentheses, you would say dated October 7. [22:53.000 --> 22:59.000] Just barely enough where you look across it, you can scan and scan very easily. [22:59.000 --> 23:01.000] It's lightweight mentally. [23:01.000 --> 23:06.000] You don't have a lot of heavy-duty text and adjectives about how terrible you felt [23:06.000 --> 23:10.000] and how rude the person was to you, none of that. [23:10.000 --> 23:12.000] Just super tiny. [23:12.000 --> 23:17.000] Okay, that's each entry, and that's really all there is to it. [23:17.000 --> 23:20.000] Every entry should just be tiny like that. [23:20.000 --> 23:26.000] Now, here are some places where you're going to get the information to make these entries. [23:26.000 --> 23:29.000] One source would be the court clerk. [23:29.000 --> 23:33.000] The court clerk is the keeper of the record. [23:33.000 --> 23:37.000] Some call it the file or the court record. [23:37.000 --> 23:41.000] It's the official court record of whatever this matter is about. [23:41.000 --> 23:45.000] Regardless of who started it, you're the plaintiff, you're the defendant, [23:45.000 --> 23:51.000] you're the accused of some crime, you're the petitioner, whatever the situation is, [23:51.000 --> 23:58.000] the court clerk has indexed these documents and is keeping them in a folder, [23:58.000 --> 24:02.000] whether that's digitally or physically. [24:02.000 --> 24:06.000] They have everything, and that's a great starting place. [24:06.000 --> 24:08.000] Go inspect the record. [24:08.000 --> 24:11.000] If there's anything in there that you don't recognize or you think, [24:11.000 --> 24:17.000] oh, I don't have a copy of that, or if you've been completely living on another planet [24:17.000 --> 24:22.000] and not taking care of your papers at all, then just get a copy of whatever they've got [24:22.000 --> 24:24.000] and start from there. [24:24.000 --> 24:28.000] Okay, and I don't say that in a rude way. [24:28.000 --> 24:34.000] I recognize that there's something, I don't know if it's a denial thing, [24:34.000 --> 24:38.000] Randy could probably identify that, but there's something where we're having [24:38.000 --> 24:42.000] so much trouble, it's so uncomfortable, we don't know what to do about it, [24:42.000 --> 24:43.000] and we're just frustrated. [24:43.000 --> 24:49.000] We throw up our arms and we don't keep track of the papers that went with it. [24:49.000 --> 24:55.000] So, yeah, that's a good first source is the court clerk. [24:55.000 --> 25:00.000] And another source would be video and audio recordings. [25:00.000 --> 25:03.000] Maybe you recorded the incident on your phone, [25:03.000 --> 25:10.000] so you can use that as an additional source to build up your timeline. [25:10.000 --> 25:18.000] Oh, I delivered this and then she said that, or I was already off of their property by then. [25:18.000 --> 25:22.000] All of these kinds of little things that you notice in a video recording [25:22.000 --> 25:26.000] or an audio recording that will help you to set things up [25:26.000 --> 25:31.000] and dovetail nicely in your timeline. [25:31.000 --> 25:37.000] Another source is your physical papers, things that got mailed to you, [25:37.000 --> 25:41.000] maybe a note got stuck to your door by the landlord, whatever. [25:41.000 --> 25:48.000] These physical documents are another source of you putting things into your timeline. [25:48.000 --> 25:55.000] Take each one of those, whether you snap a photo of it or you scan it or digitize in some way, [25:55.000 --> 26:01.000] that would be great, but at least if you can reference it in your timeline [26:01.000 --> 26:05.000] and say here's where it belongs, you put a pin on the time continuum. [26:05.000 --> 26:12.000] Okay, another source is your documents. Go look at your computer file system, [26:12.000 --> 26:17.000] look at your electronic documents, and each one of those, [26:17.000 --> 26:21.000] make sure that you have an entry, a mention of it on your timeline somewhere. [26:21.000 --> 26:23.000] This is when I sent this. [26:23.000 --> 26:29.000] It's helpful if you have like subject-verb-object, if you mention who you sent it to. [26:29.000 --> 26:35.000] Well, I sent it to the court clerk and I sent a copy of it to that prosecutor. [26:35.000 --> 26:39.000] Great, now you have it nicely documented in your timeline. [26:39.000 --> 26:43.000] It's super easy for somebody that wants to help you to take a look at that timeline and go, [26:43.000 --> 26:49.000] oh good, you did send this, you filed that, that really helps. [26:49.000 --> 26:54.000] And the last one, I would say the last source for this timeline would be your memory. [26:54.000 --> 27:00.000] And that will kind of happen naturally as you pull in from these other sources. [27:00.000 --> 27:05.000] You will just naturally say, oh, that's when I did this. [27:05.000 --> 27:08.000] And you'll just go ahead and type it in or write it down. [27:08.000 --> 27:13.000] If you're doing a paper timeline, I don't know, but there we go. [27:13.000 --> 27:20.000] That's some basics on how you can sort of do simple timelines for the win. [27:20.000 --> 27:27.000] But then it becomes so complicated that it's daunting and becomes this formidable task that you never actually do. [27:27.000 --> 27:33.000] Instead, keep it simple and that way maybe it can actually happen. [27:33.000 --> 27:37.000] All right, we do have some callers that are stacking up here in our caller queue. [27:37.000 --> 27:44.000] So I will go ahead and switch gears and let's go talk with Jason in Wisconsin. [27:44.000 --> 27:46.000] Good evening, Jason. [27:46.000 --> 27:48.000] Hey, how's it going? [27:48.000 --> 27:50.000] Going pretty well. [27:50.000 --> 27:52.000] How about you? [27:52.000 --> 27:54.000] I'm going all right. [27:54.000 --> 28:01.000] So I don't know if you remember my whole situation or how much you want me to refresh your memory here. [28:01.000 --> 28:06.000] Yeah, let's just say you're going to refresh all of the callers' memory, [28:06.000 --> 28:11.000] and then I'll see if maybe my memory needs some jogging too. [28:11.000 --> 28:18.000] All right, so back in June, I was in a traffic stop, [28:18.000 --> 28:26.000] and I was issued a citation for unsafe cutting while passing and a warning for speeding. [28:26.000 --> 28:30.000] Ah, yeah. [28:30.000 --> 28:36.000] And then, yeah, skipping over a bunch of the little details here. [28:36.000 --> 28:39.000] I had my pre-trial conference for that, [28:39.000 --> 28:42.000] the district attorney went to the state patrol [28:42.000 --> 28:46.000] and asked them to turn the speeding warning into a citation. [28:46.000 --> 28:51.000] So that's essentially where I'm at right now. [28:51.000 --> 28:54.000] Okay, I think that's the same place you were at, right? [28:54.000 --> 28:57.000] When we talked last, that's... [28:57.000 --> 29:02.000] Yeah, a couple more developments that happened in the last couple days here though. [29:02.000 --> 29:03.000] Okay, what's that? [29:03.000 --> 29:08.000] I had my pre-trial conference yesterday for the speeding citation, [29:08.000 --> 29:12.000] and he offered me what sounded like a pretty decent deal, [29:12.000 --> 29:17.000] but I don't think I'm going to take it. [29:17.000 --> 29:19.000] What do you mean? Why not? [29:19.000 --> 29:24.000] A decent deal means you consider it reasonable? [29:24.000 --> 29:26.000] Well, at first it sounded reasonable, [29:26.000 --> 29:30.000] but then I thought about it more, and I mean it's... [29:30.000 --> 29:34.000] So what he offered me is he... [29:34.000 --> 29:37.000] I hear the music. [29:37.000 --> 29:40.000] I'm going to wait until after the break to get into it. [29:40.000 --> 29:46.000] That's okay, we'll get into there in 15 seconds. [29:46.000 --> 29:48.000] He offered you a deal. [29:48.000 --> 29:50.000] You don't think you're going to take it? [29:50.000 --> 29:52.000] And I guess we'll hear... [29:52.000 --> 29:57.000] On the other side we'll talk some more about why you thought it was reasonable, [29:57.000 --> 29:59.000] but you're not quite going to take it after all. [29:59.000 --> 30:02.000] All right, we'll be right back. 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[33:43.000 --> 33:48.000] Actually, I didn't think to ask him that, but he's not able to do it tonight. [33:48.000 --> 33:52.000] And we're speaking with Jason in Wisconsin. [33:52.000 --> 33:57.000] Jason, just right before we went out, you were describing that you have [33:57.000 --> 33:59.000] a prosecutor offered you a deal. [33:59.000 --> 34:02.000] It was a decent deal, but the more you thought about it, [34:02.000 --> 34:04.000] you're thinking maybe you're not going to take it after all. [34:04.000 --> 34:07.000] Tell us more about that. [34:07.000 --> 34:12.000] Yeah, I guess let me start by laying out what I'm facing here, [34:12.000 --> 34:14.000] if I'm found guilty on both of those. [34:14.000 --> 34:22.000] So on the unsafe cutting, I'm facing a $200 fine and three points on my driver's license. [34:22.000 --> 34:26.000] For the speeding, it's 16 to 19 miles an hour over. [34:26.000 --> 34:30.000] I'm facing a $200 fine and four points on my driver's license. [34:30.000 --> 34:35.000] What he offered me was to dismiss the unsafe cutting [34:35.000 --> 34:38.000] and drop the speeding down to one to 10 miles over, [34:38.000 --> 34:43.000] which would be a $175 fine and three points on my driver's license. [34:43.000 --> 34:47.000] So on the surface, it sounded like it sounded more reasonable [34:47.000 --> 34:50.000] than I thought he was going to offer me, first of all. [34:50.000 --> 34:54.000] And on the surface, it sounded reasonable, and then I started to think about it. [34:54.000 --> 34:59.000] Like, wait a minute, I started out facing a $200 fine and three points. [34:59.000 --> 35:02.000] And so basically, I'm only saving $25 on this deal. [35:02.000 --> 35:04.000] You know what I'm saying? [35:04.000 --> 35:05.000] Oh, got you. [35:05.000 --> 35:08.000] So are you thinking that you would like to make a counter offer, [35:08.000 --> 35:16.000] or are you thinking that you would like to kind of gamble with your, just stick it to them? [35:16.000 --> 35:17.000] It doesn't matter really. [35:17.000 --> 35:26.000] If you're going to go and try to get, let's say, a positive ruling in your favor, [35:26.000 --> 35:30.000] it might be a long hike. [35:30.000 --> 35:35.000] Sometimes it works out that way, but it depends on who the people are. [35:35.000 --> 35:38.000] You know, that judge is a person. [35:38.000 --> 35:41.000] And unpredictable, the prosecutor too. [35:41.000 --> 35:49.000] You don't know who exactly is going to be receptive to the law, respect the law. [35:49.000 --> 35:52.000] Pretty often, they don't seem to have enough of that. [35:52.000 --> 36:02.000] So it can take some effort to, let's just say, call other people's attention to their indiscretions, [36:02.000 --> 36:10.000] and things can easily blow up out of proportion, become a hassle for you to keep up with. [36:10.000 --> 36:17.000] I don't know how much of that you're up for and how much of that you're looking for, looking for a deal. [36:17.000 --> 36:24.000] Do you want to cause trouble for them because of their lawlessness? [36:24.000 --> 36:30.000] And then you just, you don't care about the points and the dollars? [36:30.000 --> 36:32.000] Or where are you on that spectrum? [36:32.000 --> 36:37.000] That's kind of where I am actually, because without getting into a lot of detail, [36:37.000 --> 36:40.000] maybe I'll call back some other time and get into it. [36:40.000 --> 36:45.000] My neighbor was railroaded by the same court and ended up spending six months in jail because of it. [36:45.000 --> 36:50.000] And yeah, they've been doing stuff to a lot of people that I know of, [36:50.000 --> 36:54.000] so it's kind of more than just the money and the points. [36:54.000 --> 37:01.000] That being said, I agreed with the district attorney that I'd call them tomorrow [37:01.000 --> 37:04.000] and let them know if I was going to take that deal or not. [37:04.000 --> 37:10.000] And I was considering trying to make some sort of counteroffer where there would be no points, [37:10.000 --> 37:14.000] but I'm not sure if I want to do that or not yet. [37:14.000 --> 37:21.000] And there is another big issue here I need to get to that I need to address tomorrow. [37:21.000 --> 37:27.000] I filed a motion for adjournment and I got my answer today, [37:27.000 --> 37:32.000] conveniently the day after my pre-trial conference from the circuit court judge, [37:32.000 --> 37:34.000] and he denied my request. [37:34.000 --> 37:37.000] So now I have one week left before the trial date. [37:37.000 --> 37:41.000] So I'm trying to figure out what to do with that. [37:41.000 --> 37:47.000] Do you know if Wisconsin has... [37:47.000 --> 37:54.000] when they set you up for a jury trial in Texas, [37:54.000 --> 38:01.000] the defendant can waive a jury trial and when that happens, [38:01.000 --> 38:08.000] the judge shall do the trial from the bench. [38:08.000 --> 38:14.000] Some states make it where you have to get agreement from the prosecutor [38:14.000 --> 38:20.000] or the court has to approve the waiver. [38:20.000 --> 38:23.000] The way it works here for traffic cases, [38:23.000 --> 38:28.000] I believe you have to request a jury trial within 10 days of the offense. [38:28.000 --> 38:39.000] So that's pretty limited as far as a jury trial goes. [38:39.000 --> 38:43.000] Do you mean they don't just automatically give you a jury trial [38:43.000 --> 38:45.000] and then you have to opt out of it? [38:45.000 --> 38:48.000] They start with it's going to be a bench trial? [38:48.000 --> 38:49.000] Yep. [38:49.000 --> 38:50.000] Okay. [38:50.000 --> 38:51.000] And then how do you get a jury trial? [38:51.000 --> 38:53.000] Right on the site. [38:53.000 --> 38:56.000] But if you haven't said anything within 10 days, [38:56.000 --> 38:58.000] do you still have a right to a jury trial? [38:58.000 --> 39:01.000] Do they have allowance for that? [39:01.000 --> 39:07.000] I don't see that anywhere that I've found. [39:07.000 --> 39:10.000] Okay. [39:10.000 --> 39:13.000] But it sounds like you really don't want the trial anyway. [39:13.000 --> 39:16.000] You want to, if I'm hearing you correctly, [39:16.000 --> 39:19.000] you want to find a way to not have a trial. [39:19.000 --> 39:22.000] Is that what I'm hearing? [39:22.000 --> 39:24.000] I mean, I don't mind having a trial. [39:24.000 --> 39:26.000] I'm just not ready for it yet. [39:26.000 --> 39:28.000] I've been dealing with some health issues. [39:28.000 --> 39:32.000] I had surgery about two months ago and I've been recovering from that. [39:32.000 --> 39:34.000] That's why I filed the motion for adjournment. [39:34.000 --> 39:37.000] And I'm thinking maybe I didn't put enough details in there [39:37.000 --> 39:43.000] because the denial request says the court accommodated your initial request [39:43.000 --> 39:44.000] for an adjournment. [39:44.000 --> 39:49.000] However, absent more information is disinclined to further delay the proceeding. [39:49.000 --> 39:54.000] So to me, that kind of something, they're asking for more information. [39:54.000 --> 39:56.000] Yeah. [39:56.000 --> 39:57.000] Yeah, it does. [39:57.000 --> 40:04.000] But you could also, you could move that court to reconsider your request [40:04.000 --> 40:11.000] and in that motion to reconsider, you're providing some more information. [40:11.000 --> 40:13.000] So I'd file a motion to reconsider [40:13.000 --> 40:19.000] and provide more details like say, okay, I had surgery on this date [40:19.000 --> 40:25.000] and this is normal recovery time for it and that type of stuff. [40:25.000 --> 40:33.000] Should I include any, like, evidence proving that I had the surgery? [40:33.000 --> 40:34.000] Yeah, it couldn't hurt. [40:34.000 --> 40:38.000] I wouldn't have thought of that myself, but I think that probably makes sense. [40:38.000 --> 40:41.000] The only issue with that is I had some documents I gave to work [40:41.000 --> 40:43.000] because I had to take a few weeks off of work for it [40:43.000 --> 40:47.000] and it says that the recovery time is like four to six weeks. [40:47.000 --> 40:50.000] However, I can, I'm to the point where I can go back to work, [40:50.000 --> 40:54.000] but, you know, I have nothing left by the time I'm done with work [40:54.000 --> 40:57.000] and I can't sit down and work on my case or anything like that. [40:57.000 --> 40:58.000] You know what I'm saying? [40:58.000 --> 41:02.000] I'm fucking starting to recover now, but... [41:02.000 --> 41:03.000] Yeah, don't worry about work. [41:03.000 --> 41:04.000] They're not dealing with work. [41:04.000 --> 41:09.000] They're dealing with the fact that you had surgery. [41:09.000 --> 41:13.000] So I'm wondering, should I just give them documents stating what surgery I had [41:13.000 --> 41:16.000] and don't give them anything saying what the recovery time is [41:16.000 --> 41:18.000] or how should I deal with that? [41:18.000 --> 41:20.000] Oh, I would definitely say what the recovery time is. [41:20.000 --> 41:23.000] I would say here's what the typical recovery time is [41:23.000 --> 41:27.000] and here's what the doctor told me and put that in there [41:27.000 --> 41:33.000] and then ask for a date that's just outside of that. [41:33.000 --> 41:36.000] You know, you're not asking for six months down the road. [41:36.000 --> 41:39.000] You're asking for that amount of time, [41:39.000 --> 41:45.000] and then, you know, go ahead and schedule it right after that ends. [41:45.000 --> 41:46.000] So, yeah. [41:46.000 --> 41:47.000] Let's see. [41:47.000 --> 41:50.000] It's already been about six weeks after I had the surgery [41:50.000 --> 41:55.000] and they say the normal recovery time is like three to four weeks. [41:55.000 --> 41:56.000] Oh, okay. [41:56.000 --> 42:01.000] That's probably not going to get you anywhere. [42:01.000 --> 42:04.000] But there are people, I guess, that takes longer to recover, [42:04.000 --> 42:08.000] so if I can get some documentation of that, I don't know. [42:08.000 --> 42:11.000] Yeah, that sounds like the way to go. [42:11.000 --> 42:16.000] Yeah, if you stick with the six-week thing, it's already been that. [42:16.000 --> 42:21.000] Okay, so it seems like that's a better plan. [42:21.000 --> 42:24.000] Yeah, I'm kind of thinking I'd like to get something done tonight [42:24.000 --> 42:26.000] and get it ready to file first thing in the morning [42:26.000 --> 42:30.000] since I only have like a week left here. [42:30.000 --> 42:35.000] So I'm kind of limited on the documents I can get until tomorrow. [42:35.000 --> 42:40.000] What is it I'm wondering about this trial? [42:40.000 --> 42:45.000] If you had an extra week, if they gave you an extra week, an extra two weeks, [42:45.000 --> 42:49.000] what else would you feel like you're needing to do [42:49.000 --> 42:54.000] in that time that you're not able to do right now? [42:54.000 --> 42:59.000] Well, other than file a bunch of bar agreements, criminal complaints, [42:59.000 --> 43:02.000] type of stuff against the district attorney, which I haven't got to yet, [43:02.000 --> 43:05.000] which I wish I would have, [43:05.000 --> 43:10.000] I need to learn how to get prepared to actually go to trial [43:10.000 --> 43:14.000] and what type of defense I need to prepare. [43:14.000 --> 43:17.000] I know I'm pretty sure I have a good defense on the merits, [43:17.000 --> 43:21.000] but I'm not sure if I should even go there. [43:21.000 --> 43:24.000] Well, you try to not go to the merits, but you want to set yourself up [43:24.000 --> 43:28.000] for hope for the best and plan for the worst, right? 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[46:47.000 --> 46:50.000] And we're talking with Jason in Wisconsin, [46:50.000 --> 46:55.000] and Jason is looking for a way to extend his time. [46:55.000 --> 46:57.000] They're setting him up for trial. [46:57.000 --> 46:59.000] It's coming down hot and heavy, [46:59.000 --> 47:03.000] and he's wanting to see if there's any way to extend that time. [47:03.000 --> 47:07.000] Jason, you said that you were... [47:07.000 --> 47:12.000] six weeks ago, I believe you said, was your surgery, [47:12.000 --> 47:17.000] and that would have been an ideal time for you to be conducting discovery. [47:17.000 --> 47:21.000] Were you able to do that? [47:21.000 --> 47:23.000] For a few weeks after the surgery, [47:23.000 --> 47:27.000] I wasn't able to really sit at the computer or do anything like that. [47:27.000 --> 47:29.000] I was having a difficult time with that. [47:29.000 --> 47:32.000] And I should add, before the surgery, [47:32.000 --> 47:37.000] the problem I had the surgery for was causing me to be in such severe pain. [47:37.000 --> 47:39.000] I couldn't do anything. [47:39.000 --> 47:43.000] So, you know, from June all the way up until that time, [47:43.000 --> 47:48.000] I couldn't get much done for my case, basically. [47:48.000 --> 47:54.000] Okay. Well, I think that is your ideal place to focus. [47:54.000 --> 48:00.000] In your motion to reconsider this extension of time you were asking for, [48:00.000 --> 48:03.000] in your motion to reconsider, you're going to have to say why. [48:03.000 --> 48:07.000] You have to put some bullet points, some grounds, they call it, some reasons. [48:07.000 --> 48:12.000] Why should you get to have more time and keep the court's docket full? [48:12.000 --> 48:14.000] They want to get rid of things, right? [48:14.000 --> 48:18.000] They want everybody to plead guilty and go away. [48:18.000 --> 48:20.000] And that's their pattern that they're used to. [48:20.000 --> 48:23.000] If they could just get somebody to go off on that little side room [48:23.000 --> 48:26.000] and chat with the prosecutor, then they're going to wheel a deal [48:26.000 --> 48:29.000] and come up with something that gets everything off the docket. [48:29.000 --> 48:31.000] The court doesn't have to address it. [48:31.000 --> 48:38.000] So they really want this to not be delayed and delayed, at least not for you. [48:38.000 --> 48:39.000] You're a pro se. [48:39.000 --> 48:42.000] They'll delay it all kinds of times. [48:42.000 --> 48:45.000] If the prosecutor wants to delay, they'll be happy to do that. [48:45.000 --> 48:49.000] But this is an unrepresented accused. [48:49.000 --> 48:52.000] They don't necessarily want to give you any more time. [48:52.000 --> 48:57.000] Heck, you might figure out how to formulate a defense and actually win. [48:57.000 --> 48:59.000] They don't want you to have more time. [48:59.000 --> 49:08.000] They want you to be pressed and not have a chance to find a strategy. [49:08.000 --> 49:12.000] But they won't say it in that many words. [49:12.000 --> 49:20.000] And if you clearly identify that, hey, I had this surgery. [49:20.000 --> 49:25.000] During the time leading up to the surgery, I was in extreme pain. [49:25.000 --> 49:29.000] And the recovery time after the surgery, I needed to do discovery [49:29.000 --> 49:31.000] and was unable to begin discovery. [49:31.000 --> 49:36.000] I am only just now recovering to the point that I can think straight [49:36.000 --> 49:43.000] and begin to put together some responsive paperwork for this issue. [49:43.000 --> 49:48.000] And, you know, write it in a way that makes it look like you're not just blowing it off, [49:48.000 --> 49:57.000] but you're giving full attention and respect to the level that you could, [49:57.000 --> 50:02.000] which was nothing while you were in surgery and recovering from surgery. [50:02.000 --> 50:04.000] And so you need to do discovery. [50:04.000 --> 50:10.000] You need to be able to formulate a defense based on the discovery responses. [50:10.000 --> 50:17.000] So I think if you can spin it like that. [50:17.000 --> 50:18.000] Go ahead. [50:18.000 --> 50:23.000] The thing with discovery is it's very limited in traffic cases in Wisconsin. [50:23.000 --> 50:31.000] You can only request records from, I believe, radar guns and breathalyzers [50:31.000 --> 50:36.000] up to 10 days after the offense, and then that's basically it for discovery. [50:36.000 --> 50:41.000] What's that? [50:41.000 --> 50:42.000] That's crazy. [50:42.000 --> 50:48.000] Okay, so are they treating it like a crime? [50:48.000 --> 50:50.000] No, it's civil. [50:50.000 --> 50:52.000] Okay. [50:52.000 --> 50:56.000] So they've got some patterns worked out for that. [50:56.000 --> 51:01.000] I don't know if you remember on Friday when I called them when I was talking about [51:01.000 --> 51:03.000] my open records request with the district attorney [51:03.000 --> 51:08.000] and how in the response they labeled it as a discovery request. [51:08.000 --> 51:09.000] Oh, right. [51:09.000 --> 51:10.000] Okay. [51:10.000 --> 51:12.000] Yeah, I remember that happened with somebody. [51:12.000 --> 51:13.000] I didn't connect the dots. [51:13.000 --> 51:14.000] Cool. [51:14.000 --> 51:21.000] Yeah, so basically I was using that as a, well, partially as another form of discovery. [51:21.000 --> 51:26.000] I also asked for other public records not completely related to my case. [51:26.000 --> 51:33.000] Yeah, they basically gave me nothing I asked for, and this might be another option I have. [51:33.000 --> 51:41.000] According to the open records statute, if my request is denied or not responded to, [51:41.000 --> 51:44.000] I can file a mandamus. [51:44.000 --> 51:46.000] Very cool. [51:46.000 --> 51:52.000] And I found a template online that's specifically for filing a mandamus in Wisconsin [51:52.000 --> 51:54.000] for specifically this type of thing. [51:54.000 --> 51:57.000] So it wouldn't be a whole lot of work if I could get it done this week if I had to. [51:57.000 --> 51:58.000] Beautiful. [51:58.000 --> 52:00.000] Yes. [52:00.000 --> 52:04.000] But I'm wondering if I should go both routes at the same time, you know, [52:04.000 --> 52:07.000] file the motion for reconsideration and do that. [52:07.000 --> 52:09.000] Oh, yeah, absolutely. [52:09.000 --> 52:13.000] Yeah, because they could still come back and say no, and then what? [52:13.000 --> 52:15.000] You haven't got started yet on any of the rest of it? [52:15.000 --> 52:18.000] No, really, go ahead and do everything you can. [52:18.000 --> 52:24.000] No reason to not work on multiple fronts there. [52:24.000 --> 52:30.000] There's an issue of applicability of the regulatory scheme, [52:30.000 --> 52:36.000] and I don't know to what extent you've studied that or you're familiar with that, [52:36.000 --> 52:46.000] but state troopers have the authorization to enforce transportation code, [52:46.000 --> 52:53.000] and that's not the case with all other officers that are not state troopers. [52:53.000 --> 53:02.000] They may have been given statutorily access to certain subsets to enforce under certain conditions, [53:02.000 --> 53:07.000] and I don't know if you've looked into that or if you would like to drill into that, [53:07.000 --> 53:09.000] because then the whole thing doesn't apply at all. [53:09.000 --> 53:13.000] There's no such thing as speeding unless you're one of the people [53:13.000 --> 53:18.000] to whom that regulatory scheme can be lawfully applied. [53:18.000 --> 53:20.000] Does that make sense? [53:20.000 --> 53:24.000] Yeah, I have looked into that, and that's another road I can go down, [53:24.000 --> 53:28.000] but I guess right now I'm looking at the short term here, you know, [53:28.000 --> 53:36.000] what I can do to delay my trial date so I have time to work on all this other stuff. [53:36.000 --> 53:40.000] I thought you had filed that mandamus a week or whenever ago. [53:40.000 --> 53:46.000] We spoke maybe a week ago, and I thought you were doing that mandamus. [53:46.000 --> 53:48.000] No, because when I talked to you guys, [53:48.000 --> 53:51.000] I had just got the letter from the district attorney, [53:51.000 --> 53:54.000] basically the response to my open records request, [53:54.000 --> 54:00.000] and the statute says that for every part of your request they deny, [54:00.000 --> 54:03.000] they have to do it in writing and give you a reason why, [54:03.000 --> 54:11.000] and none of that stuff is in writing, so I have a clear case there, I guess. [54:11.000 --> 54:13.000] Yeah, exactly. [54:13.000 --> 54:17.000] And I did have a discussion with the district attorney's paralegal, [54:17.000 --> 54:21.000] which I recorded, and she told me flat out, [54:21.000 --> 54:30.000] this is our response to your open records request, so I have that on record. [54:30.000 --> 54:33.000] Yes, we blur the lines all the time. [54:33.000 --> 54:34.000] Next question. [54:34.000 --> 54:36.000] Recording phone calls is fun. [54:36.000 --> 54:38.000] I recorded my pretrial conference, [54:38.000 --> 54:44.000] and I have at least one bar grievance I can file as a result of that. [54:44.000 --> 54:56.000] Let me find the...I've got to pull up here. [54:56.000 --> 55:00.000] One of the rules of professional conduct he violated says, [55:00.000 --> 55:05.000] when communicating with an unrepresented person in the context of an investigation [55:05.000 --> 55:10.000] or proceeding, a prosecutor shall inform the person of the prosecutor's role [55:10.000 --> 55:12.000] and interest in the matter. [55:12.000 --> 55:18.000] I was able to do that during both pretrial conferences. [55:18.000 --> 55:19.000] Yeah, cool. [55:19.000 --> 55:21.000] You got to get the rights. [55:21.000 --> 55:23.000] Yeah. [55:23.000 --> 55:25.000] And he even asked me at the beginning of the call, [55:25.000 --> 55:27.000] are you still representing yourself? [55:27.000 --> 55:30.000] He stated that right in the call. [55:30.000 --> 55:33.000] The only way he does is he's showing that he knew during that call [55:33.000 --> 55:35.000] that I was unrepresented, [55:35.000 --> 55:39.000] but he also knew during the last time I talked that I was unrepresented. [55:39.000 --> 55:41.000] Yeah, exactly. [55:41.000 --> 55:43.000] Well, yeah, go ahead, do your mandamus, [55:43.000 --> 55:47.000] do a motion to reconsider this time extension, [55:47.000 --> 55:53.000] and mention in there that you need to do...you haven't gotten any discovery yet, [55:53.000 --> 55:59.000] and that's going to be important for you to figure out how to formulate a defense. [55:59.000 --> 56:04.000] Should I mention this about the...sorry? [56:04.000 --> 56:11.000] Should I state in there that I'm having problems obtaining public records [56:11.000 --> 56:16.000] or that I'm facing delays obtaining public records that could help me in my defense? [56:16.000 --> 56:18.000] Should I put something like that in there? [56:18.000 --> 56:22.000] Yes, yes. [56:22.000 --> 56:27.000] Also, if I'm able to get some documentation from my doctor, [56:27.000 --> 56:29.000] but it's not until next week, [56:29.000 --> 56:32.000] should I just file something tomorrow and then can I amend it again, [56:32.000 --> 56:35.000] say on Monday if I get more documentation I want to add to it? [56:35.000 --> 56:37.000] That's exactly what you do. [56:37.000 --> 56:40.000] You put in your eight bullet points, and then when you talk to your doctor [56:40.000 --> 56:43.000] and you have one or two more, you file and amend it. [56:43.000 --> 56:47.000] Okay, so I can just keep amending it if I want to add more stuff to it? [56:47.000 --> 56:50.000] Yes. [56:50.000 --> 56:55.000] Okay, I think that gives me a lot to work with for tonight. [56:55.000 --> 56:58.000] Maybe I'll give you guys a call back tomorrow and... [56:58.000 --> 57:00.000] Okay, great. [57:00.000 --> 57:02.000] I'll see you around here. [57:02.000 --> 57:03.000] Wonderful. [57:03.000 --> 57:05.000] All right, well, thanks for calling, Jason. [57:05.000 --> 57:06.000] Good talking with you again. [57:06.000 --> 57:07.000] Thanks. [57:07.000 --> 57:08.000] That works well for you. [57:08.000 --> 57:10.000] Okay, so next we're going to go to Ken. [57:10.000 --> 57:12.000] He's also in Wisconsin. [57:12.000 --> 57:14.000] How crazy is that? [57:14.000 --> 57:16.000] Two people in Wisconsin. [57:16.000 --> 57:23.000] Yes, Wisconsin's the land of craziness, I guess. [57:23.000 --> 57:26.000] I thought it was cheese. [57:26.000 --> 57:30.000] There's many more. [57:30.000 --> 57:34.000] Well, there is a lot of good cheese. [57:34.000 --> 57:39.000] One question, in Wisconsin, when we bar grieve, it doesn't go to the bar. [57:39.000 --> 57:43.000] It goes to Office of Lawyer Regulation. [57:43.000 --> 57:48.000] And I see they have the same thing in Missouri where it's actually a government [57:48.000 --> 57:51.000] agency that takes care of it. [57:51.000 --> 57:58.000] Does that still have the same effect on their insurance and all that? [57:58.000 --> 58:00.000] Yeah, I don't know. [58:00.000 --> 58:04.000] I would imagine it does, but I don't have any parking experience with the [58:04.000 --> 58:08.000] Wisconsin bar, so I couldn't say for sure. [58:08.000 --> 58:10.000] Okay, because it's not... [58:10.000 --> 58:13.000] You don't actually contact the bar in Wisconsin. [58:13.000 --> 58:19.000] You contact the Supreme Court, and they've got people authorize to... [58:19.000 --> 58:22.000] What's the Office of Lawyer Regulation? [58:22.000 --> 58:25.000] I would imagine that has the same effect. 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[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.000] And there we are, Ken. [01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.000] I thought you were unmuted. [01:03:58.000 --> 01:03:59.000] Okay. [01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:00.000] Okay. [01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:06.000] Well, you answered my first question about the Office of Lawyer Regulations. [01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:13.000] And now I guess my main reason for calling, I know it's not in your real [01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:22.000] area of expertise, but let me tell you the story and whatever observations [01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:29.000] or advice you could provide, you know, what any of it would be helpful. [01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:36.000] So I know this couple, they got common law married. [01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:43.000] He has his own business, a cash business, kind of off the grid. [01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.000] And she's been a mother and housewife for 10 years. [01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:53.000] And he has decided that they're going to be divorced. [01:04:53.000 --> 01:05:00.000] And basically, she can go her way. [01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:05.000] And he's wanted the kids. [01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:12.000] The kids are now about that age, you know, where there's no diapers or any of that stuff. [01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.000] They're like seven, eight years old. [01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:21.000] So at 50 age, he figures they won't be much of a problem for him. [01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:32.000] So now, and basically he wants them so he doesn't have to give her any money to take care of them. [01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:39.000] And none of these kids have, you know, Social Security numbers or birth certificates [01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000] because he didn't want them in the system. [01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:51.000] But now suddenly, he's decided to get some lawyers and go to court, [01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:57.000] not to do a divorce where they can split things up, [01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:06.000] but specifically to have the court give him primary custody of the kids. [01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:13.000] So one question is, can they pick and choose, well, first off, [01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:22.000] would a Missouri court have jurisdiction over a common law marriage or over these kids [01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:26.000] if these kids were never in the system? [01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.000] So that's one question. [01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:38.000] And if they did want to get involved, it sounds like they will because his lawyers have served her [01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.000] with a couple of summonses. [01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:51.000] Can they just specify the issue of custody without really dealing with the whole issue of divorce? [01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.000] Because it's like he wants to take all the marbles. [01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:03.000] He always did have control of the money because he was the breadwinner. [01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:10.000] And so now, even if she wanted to get a lawyer, she's got no money for it. [01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:16.000] But now here's one more aspect to it. [01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:20.000] They've got quite a bit of land, equity of land, [01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:26.000] because he was, you know, no social security number and stuff. [01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.000] It's been put in her name. [01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:38.000] And now he wants to take that too because it's on a private land contract. [01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.000] There's no bank or anything. [01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:47.000] So he says that since his name has been on the payment, [01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:51.000] he wants the court to put his name on it. [01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.000] No. [01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.000] No, he can't get it that way. [01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:00.000] So the first question is going to be moot because the second question, [01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:08.000] the first question whether or not the court will have jurisdiction over a common law marriage, [01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:12.000] that's actually going to be moot because somebody is going to the court. [01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:17.000] One of them is specifically walking up to the court and saying, [01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:21.000] I want you to adjudicate this. [01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:30.000] He is, in my opinion, putting his children in the position that he always said he didn't want them in, [01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.000] which is in the hands of the state. [01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:37.000] The only way the state can make a decision and say, yeah, you have full custody. [01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:39.000] We're taking her parental rights. [01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:41.000] Her parental rights are going to be terminated. [01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:50.000] The only way that that can happen is if the one signing that paper has the authority to do it. [01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:56.000] Right now, before they bring all this stuff to be adjudicated, [01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:06.000] those two people, the father and the mother, have the highest claim in the universe over their children. [01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:12.000] All these sons and daughters came from them and nobody can have a higher claim. [01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:19.000] Yes, attorneys can argue about, well, the state has to consider the welfare of the children [01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.000] and we have a whole commission set up for that and public safety, blah, blah. [01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:28.000] They can do that and they often succeed. [01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:40.000] If they're going to protect the children from whatever, CPS, DFCS, whatever is the acronym in Missouri, [01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:49.000] if they're going to keep them out of that funnel, then they can't be going to the court [01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:52.000] and asking for the court to figure this out. [01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:59.000] They need to be man and woman sitting down and hashing this out over the dining table. [01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:06.000] They need to come to an agreement between the two of them, what they're going to do, without going to the courts. [01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.000] You start getting lawyers involved. [01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:15.000] That's like letting, you know, you have a fort and you open up the front door to the fort [01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:20.000] and there's 800 bad guys out there and you tell them, only you and you. [01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:24.000] You let two guys in there, but you're not going to let the rest of them in. [01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:26.000] Yeah, right. [01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.000] That's not going to happen. [01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.000] You open up the door for a little bit. [01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.000] They're all coming in and they're going to divide all your assets. [01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.000] Seventy, eighty percent of it is going to go to the lawyers [01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:42.000] and they'll be left with a little bit pittance of leftovers. [01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:47.000] It's not going to be a pretty picture and nobody's ever happy with the way these things turn out. [01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:56.000] I would certainly hope that you have the ear of this father and mother to encourage them to, [01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:01.000] you know, hey, you wanted to do this in a way that protects your family. [01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:06.000] You've been doing things kind of the difficult way all these years. [01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:16.000] You've gone to all this extra trouble to be, you know, quote, safe by not doing things the standard way. [01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.000] Right. [01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:20.000] Now she doesn't want to do that. [01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:28.000] I mean, she agrees with you that let's talk this out. [01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.000] Let's work it out. [01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.000] And it has been working out. [01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:39.000] I mean, she's been letting him have the kids more than half the time. [01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:47.000] But I think this is a ploy to see what she wanted was not just the kids, [01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:53.000] but talk about if he wants a divorce, how do we split up everything here? [01:11:53.000 --> 01:12:00.000] And the way I see it is he's running to the court to get what he wants, the kids, [01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:07.000] and then just tell her to get lost as far as dividing anything up. [01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:16.000] So what he doesn't realize is that in that mindset of his choosing right now, [01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.000] he's not going to end up with what he wants. [01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000] He's going to end up with a whole lot less than he would have [01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:25.000] if he had sat at a table and worked it out with her. [01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:33.000] Well, and see, they're not even bringing that issue of splitting up the property or anything. [01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:37.000] They've got two... [01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:38.000] This is not about the property. [01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:39.000] The property is so secondary. [01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.000] You have the children's lives at stake here. [01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.000] Well, I understand that. [01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.000] They have two separate suits. [01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:50.000] One is specifically for the custody, [01:12:50.000 --> 01:13:00.000] and one is specifically for him to get his name on the land title [01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:03.000] and see all the things that would work against him, [01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:09.000] like let's just say a divorce proceeding of some type where they might tell him, [01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:14.000] hey, you got to give her so much money, so much a month, whatever. [01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.000] He doesn't want to deal with that. [01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.000] He just wants to do what he wants to do, [01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:27.000] and the things that he can't do necessarily like take the kids away, [01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.000] and for that purpose he's going to court, [01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.000] and then the other lawsuit is to get his name on the land title, [01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:45.000] and that's really all she has to show for the 10 years was some property, [01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:48.000] but I mean it still has to be paid off, [01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.000] but it's still quite a bit of equity in there, [01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:57.000] and he wants to get his grip on that. [01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:04.000] Now, I guess my own question is, do you think if the land is in her name, [01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:16.000] registered at the courthouse, does the court have jurisdiction to say, [01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000] well, you know, he says he's been paying for it. [01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:27.000] He made up a story about an agreement that, yeah, later, [01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:32.000] we'll put it in her name now, but later on it's going to switch to my name anyway. [01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:37.000] He made that story up for his lawsuit where in reality, [01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:44.000] I believe originally this was kind of like her nest egg or something. [01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:53.000] If anything happened to him, she would have whatever equity was in that property saved up. [01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.000] That doesn't really matter. [01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:57.000] She could just deny that that happened, [01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:02.000] but hopefully they don't do this in the court. [01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:05.000] Hopefully they will do this outside of court. [01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:06.000] Mediation if need be. [01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:14.000] Get some people that care about their family together in a room and hash it out. [01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:21.000] Maybe they get some counseling or maybe they decide to split ways, but however it happens, [01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:27.000] you know, there is such a thing as court-ordered mediation also, [01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.000] and sometimes they'll do that in a family law case. [01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:36.000] The judge sees no real way to connect this person's expectations with that, [01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.000] and so they send them off to mediation. [01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:44.000] They make them pay crazy, excruciating payments of mediation, [01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:52.000] which is nothing more than talking with a lawyer in between you. [01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:53.000] I know. [01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:59.000] You would think reasonable people can hammer it up, okay? [01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.000] Yes. [01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.000] And if they can't, get a few people, at least one. [01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:05.000] Make it be like an odd number. [01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:08.000] One, three people, something. [01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000] These people care about the family. [01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:11.000] They've known the family a while. [01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.000] They have a decent head on their shoulders, [01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:22.000] and they can give some input that shows how somebody is being reasonable or unreasonable. [01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:26.000] That could go a long way, and that's totally outside the court. [01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:31.000] Well, that was actually tried, too, [01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:37.000] where three people from his family and two from mine. [01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:40.000] Yeah, not from their family, because then that looks like side. [01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.000] It looks like, oh, yeah, all the people on your side. [01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.000] Yeah. 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[01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:42.000] Sorry about that, I was muted. [01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.000] We are back on the Rule of Law Radio. [01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:50.000] Randy Kelton, I'm Brett Fountain, and we're speaking with Ken in Wisconsin. [01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:56.000] Ken, you were describing a very sad situation here with a family that's splitting up. [01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.000] I hate these stories, and even more than that, [01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:03.000] I hate what the courts do to them when they're down. [01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.000] It's so ugly that everything gets taken from them. [01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000] It's like vultures circling, and the lawyers split all of their garments. [01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.000] I hate it. [01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:18.000] But yeah, we were talking about mediation. [01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:23.000] I think you said that you've tried it, but it was with family members. [01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.000] If possible, if you can get some other people that are not family members, [01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:31.000] then it won't be perceived as, oh yeah, of course they're saying that. [01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.000] They're on your side. [01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:39.000] You can get some, you know, try to eliminate any obstacles like that. [01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:49.000] Okay, so I guess it didn't even get that far because there were like the mediators, [01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:57.000] and there were several issues, you know, the custody of the kids, [01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:04.000] splitting properties, splitting the money, maybe some kind of other scheduling. [01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:11.000] So there were several topics to deal with, and he got stuck on the first one [01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:18.000] and would not discuss any of the other ones until he had his way on the first one. [01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:23.000] So a couple of mediators said, well, okay, why don't we go to the other ones [01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.000] and come back to this one? [01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:30.000] Well, no, I mean, he didn't, he wasn't going to. [01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.000] That was the end of it. [01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.000] That's as far as it got. [01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:39.000] So it was the first one about the children? [01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.000] Yeah, yeah, that was the hangover. [01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:47.000] You tell that boy he's likely to lose his children. [01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:52.000] His children are likely to end up stamped with the number that he always tried to avoid for them, [01:21:52.000 --> 01:22:00.000] and they're likely to end up in public school systems, indoctrinated as wards of the state, [01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:08.000] and passed off from one foster home to another, split up. [01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:11.000] He won't likely get what he wants out of this deal. [01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:14.000] Tell him stuff like that. [01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:26.000] Well, I understand that, but right now the wheels are in motion for these two court hearings [01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.000] or whatever they are, lawsuit or something. [01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:35.000] But she's got 30 days to respond. [01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.000] I haven't seen the letters. [01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:40.000] I just heard about them yesterday. [01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:51.000] So I guess some of the questions, would she challenge the jurisdiction of either one of these courts? [01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.000] Yes. [01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.000] Both of them? [01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.000] Yes. [01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:07.000] Some of my best friends are unfortunately dealing with a situation like this right now. [01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:12.000] And it's not that they aren't willing to go to mediation. [01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000] One of them isn't even thinking straight. [01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:22.000] There's some kind of mental issues and not even thinking straight. [01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:33.000] So this one is particularly belligerent and will not look good in a courtroom. [01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:46.000] And yet, when divorce papers were filed, this family has been ripped apart in the middle of January. [01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.000] Divorce papers were filed in February. [01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:59.000] A responsive answer was provided on the very last day. [01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:04.000] In Texas, you have 20 days plus until the next Monday. [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.000] It's the Monday following the 20th day. [01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:08.000] I don't know. [01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:11.000] It sounds like you have 30 days. [01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:23.000] So this one spouse filed an answer, and it was a challenge to the jurisdiction of the court. [01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:30.000] And here we are in the third week of October, and they haven't figured out what to do yet. [01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.000] The court can't get past that so far. [01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:41.000] They actually started out, they got past it at first with kind of bullying. [01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:51.000] Are you saying that this court doesn't have jurisdiction? [01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:59.000] And then they had an attorney happen to be sitting there in the courtroom. [01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.000] Hey, here's some free legal advice. [01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.000] Go off in the back room and talk to that attorney and come back in here. [01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.000] Oh, I'm so sorry, Your Honor. [01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:07.000] Came back a few minutes. [01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:08.000] I'm so sorry. [01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:09.000] I didn't understand how things work. [01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.000] I retract everything. [01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:21.000] And yet, even with that, they haven't been able to cause this divorce to happen. [01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:29.000] So all that to say yes, I would think it makes a lot of sense to challenge the jurisdiction of the court, [01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:40.000] especially in their case, because most people went ahead and did the marriage license thing. [01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:42.000] They got licenses for everything. [01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.000] They're licensed to have children. [01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:49.000] They're licensed everything belongs to the state on paper. [01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:52.000] This family that you're talking about hasn't done that. [01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:53.000] Right. [01:25:53.000 --> 01:26:01.000] So it's even a stronger position to challenge the jurisdiction of the court, [01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:05.000] even stronger than what most families would have. [01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:17.000] So she could challenge the jurisdiction and use these issues as supporting information. [01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:18.000] I mean, the... [01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:19.000] What do you mean issues? [01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:25.000] The birth certificate, no marriage license, no Social Security numbers. [01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:26.000] Oh, no. [01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:27.000] There's no real need for that. [01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:33.000] I mean, you actually could mention it in there, but I don't think it would be beneficial. [01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:39.000] When you challenge jurisdiction, the person who's doing the challenging doesn't have any burden of proof. [01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:45.000] The burden of proof is on the one who asserts jurisdiction. [01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:47.000] So you say, wait a minute, who are you? [01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.000] You don't have jurisdiction to step in here in my home and tell me what to do, [01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.000] and I have to sell my property and give you my kids. [01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:54.000] Who are you? [01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:57.000] And the one asserting jurisdiction has to say, [01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:06.000] here's why we do have authority to step into your home and divide up all your assets. [01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.000] Does that make sense? [01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.000] Well, it makes sense. [01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:11.000] Okay. [01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:14.000] So then what do you reply back to that? [01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:22.000] You know, they'll say some law, something about children or wards of the state or whatever. [01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:30.000] Would that be the time then to come back and say, well, how do you assume jurisdiction over these kids? [01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:37.000] What do these two kids have in connection with you [01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:41.000] that gives you authority to come and put them where you want them? [01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:44.000] Right. [01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:51.000] Yeah, my phrase that I would use for that is nobody has a higher claim on them than I do [01:27:51.000 --> 01:28:02.000] because the lawyers will point to some case law that says that the state has an interest in the welfare of the children. [01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:12.000] And so the state can exercise some kind of authority in the pursuit of that interest. [01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:19.000] However, this lady has a higher claim on the children. [01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:26.000] Whatever interest, a neighbor might have interest in seeing that the children are safe as well. [01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:27.000] Great. [01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:33.000] The neighbor can do something about it if there's an urgency of the moment kind of a thing going on. [01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.000] But if the parent steps up and says no, the neighbor better back off. [01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.000] Okay. [01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:51.000] So she can just resist everything right along the lines of the proceedings [01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:56.000] if they ignore the subject matter jurisdiction and just go ahead. [01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.000] I guess she would just object to everything, huh? [01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000] That's what I would do. [01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:05.000] I can't say it would be successful. [01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:09.000] It seems like such a horror story with these family law courts. [01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:13.000] I don't know of anybody that has a silver bullet. [01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:18.000] But yes, I absolutely would do that. [01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:32.000] Also, I would be crying out to the Lord because there's no guarantee that whatever happens in these courtrooms is going to follow the law. 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[01:32:55.000 --> 01:33:02.000] Order your copy today, and together we can have the free society we all want and deserve. [01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:05.000] You are listening to the Logos Radio Network, [01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:13.000] logosradio.com. [01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:30.000] Okay, we are back. [01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.000] This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. [01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.000] I'm Brett Fountain. [01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:39.000] And we're speaking with Ken in Wisconsin here. [01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:45.000] And I see we've got a couple other callers on the board here, [01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:50.000] and hopefully we'll be able to get to everybody in the next half hour. [01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:55.000] Ken, you had one more question you were raising. [01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:01.000] Well, I had the one about if she sticks to her guns as much as possible [01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:07.000] on the jurisdiction thing, do you think she'd be able to keep it out, [01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:11.000] or do you think they would bulldoze over her somehow? [01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:15.000] And the other question, which I have to get an answer for, [01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:26.000] is what kind of good reasons can we use to bargrieve his lawyers? [01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.000] Now you're talking about easy questions. [01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:32.000] You pull up the Wisconsin has a state bar. [01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:41.000] Every state has adopted to some extent the American Bar Association's model rules. [01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:48.000] So you'll find these rules of ethics that all the lawyers that are part of the bar [01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:52.000] have sworn that they are going to follow these rules. [01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:58.000] And it says they shall not do this, and they shall do that, and it's pretty easy. [01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.000] As you skim through there, you, knowing the facts set, [01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:07.000] will have things popping out at you left and right. [01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:19.000] One that stands out to me right away is trying to obtain a waiver of important rights. [01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:21.000] Okay. [01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:26.000] And these lawyers are trying to get people to waive their rights, and that's common. [01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:31.000] We've got, if they said anything to the court about, [01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.000] oh, yes, Your Honor, you have jurisdiction. [01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:37.000] This is definitely one of those war of the state situations. [01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.000] Oh, yes, yes. [01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.000] Well, they just lied to the court, so you can bargrieve them for that. [01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:51.000] So like me, I'm not there in Wisconsin. [01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.000] That's okay. [01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:58.000] So remotely, can I bargrieve them for something? [01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.000] Oh, yeah, absolutely. [01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:02.000] Okay. [01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:05.000] Bargrieve them from Australia if you want to. [01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:06.000] Okay. [01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.000] And then you don't have to be in there. [01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:10.000] You don't have to have hired the lawyer. [01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.000] Maybe you never even saw the lawyer. [01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:16.000] I bargrieve lawyers all the time that I've never seen, never heard of me before. [01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:22.000] They have no idea why I know something about their court activities, but that's okay. [01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:25.000] Now I know about it, and there you go. [01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:29.000] They're going to get their cowbell rung like a sniper hitting them from a distance. [01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:30.000] Okay. [01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:31.000] You can totally do that. [01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:38.000] I think that will be an important aspect, you know, of the defense. [01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.000] So, okay, well, I guess I'll let you go. [01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:45.000] I'm glad I got to talk to you. [01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:46.000] Yeah. [01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:49.000] Well, thanks for calling. [01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:54.000] All right. [01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:57.000] Now we're going to go to Bina in California. [01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.000] Good evening, Bina. [01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.000] What's on your mind? [01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:02.000] Hey there. [01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:04.000] I'm glad we got it in. [01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.000] Yes, ma'am. [01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.000] And how are you? [01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.000] I'm doing just great. [01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.000] Great. [01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:21.000] So I called in maybe four weeks ago about a landlord situation that had been kicked off. [01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:27.000] I talked about having my lease challenged in a 60-day notice. [01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:35.000] Well, I did some legwork on my own, and obviously I have a lease otherwise. [01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:44.000] That's why the keys have been given to me from where I live and why rent had been accepted from me for 14 months in cash with receipts. [01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:49.000] So we know that the claim that I didn't have a lease was false. [01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:55.000] When that did not work for this landlord, Brett, here's what he did. [01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:04.000] He went and did a surreptitious background check using my name or some name, maybe just my first name. [01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:14.000] He pulled up court records for someone with my first name only and then emailed me copies of these court records, you know, [01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:24.000] court case numbers with this other person, actually there are two individuals, with their full names accusing me of being those aliases. [01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:34.000] Both of the cases that he researched without a consent, because I did look up the laws about credit reporting acts, [01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:46.000] he is claiming these are my aliases, both of the cases predated the time I was even in California, much less was living in California. [01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:52.000] He drove Brett, and he's not stopping. The law is not stopping him. [01:38:52.000 --> 01:39:01.000] Well, the courts are not going to until you give the court a button to push. [01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:08.000] You have to write it up. You have to put an objection in the record wherever he put this in the court case. [01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:14.000] You have to file something that opposes his filing, and you put facts in there. [01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:22.000] No, he has not filed. These are just threatening emails, texts. He's stalking me. He's threatening me. [01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:31.000] Well, then it doesn't matter. You can address that separately, but it's a sideband. It's out of channel. It's a separate parallel issue. [01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:38.000] Your main issue here is whatever's in the court record. If he's sending you these emails and he's not sending them to the court, [01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:46.000] then don't worry about it for the purpose of what's going on in court. You don't have to. It's not before the court. [01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.000] If it ever gets before the court, then you'll oppose it. [01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:56.000] But in the meantime, just make a note of it so that you can write a criminal complaint and lob that grenade. [01:39:56.000 --> 01:40:04.000] Just accuse him of, like you said, harassment, stalking, unauthorized misuse of personal identifying information. [01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:16.000] Whatever your local penal code there in California, I think they call it criminal code, just skim through there and find, oh yeah, he did this. [01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:20.000] He's obviously doing this. He's trying to intimidate me. This looks like simulated legal process. [01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:28.000] He says, if I don't do this and this and that, but he's going to do this, well, there we have some threats going on. [01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:38.000] And just look for what is referenced as what the California legislature has said. This is a criminal activity. [01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:45.000] Line it up with his behavior. If all the points of it match, you know, like essential elements of the crime. [01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:53.000] If the facts that lines up to support it being that crime, report it. But that won't fix your thing about the landlord thing. [01:40:53.000 --> 01:41:06.000] You've got an issue with the lease. You know, you mentioned just a moment ago that he first said there was no lease. [01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:17.000] And then it came up that that's impossible. Well, did he ever admit, okay, yeah, fine, fine, we had a lease, whatever. [01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:27.000] Did he ever get that far? Yes, because the second notice, the three day notice said in your lease data, da da da da da. [01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:43.000] Good. He just burned himself. So now you can have him, all of his testimony stricken and have him removed as a non credible witness. [01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:55.000] He he just committed what's called aggravated perjury. Yeah. Perjury is when he says Bina is so ugly. [01:41:55.000 --> 01:42:03.000] Well, that's a lie. Bina is not ugly. Or it might be, you know, Bina weighs five thousand pounds. [01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:12.000] That's not true. But none of that's before the court. That's not the issue before the court. It's considered not material. [01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:25.000] So if he lies about something like that, that's one thing. But if he lies about something that is a core issue here, does she have a lease? [01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:32.000] He lied about that. That's material to what is before the court. That's aggravated perjury. [01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:49.000] So the punishment, the severity goes up a notch when he commits aggravated perjury. And that also puts him in a position of every word he has said is subject to getting stricken. [01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:59.000] You can say I moved to strike all the testimony of this person who has perjured himself. [01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:09.000] But it doesn't matter which one was true. If he first says that there was no lease and then later he said there wasn't or later he said there was. [01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:17.000] It doesn't matter which one's true. The fact that they're impossibly inconsistent immediately. [01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:24.000] He's he's you don't have to prove which one is false or if both are false, it doesn't matter. [01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:34.000] He's out. Yeah, you actually answered my question. I wonder if I can file a criminal complaint against the clinical person. [01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:41.000] Yeah, but it's just totally separate. It's not part of the case because that part's not before the court. Yes, you can. [01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:44.000] Who would I give that to? [01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:55.000] OK, great question. And we're just about to go to our sponsors. So we'll talk about that on the other side. That's a really good question. Lots of people ask that question. [01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:59.000] We'll be right back, Rita, after these sponsors. [01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:04.000] Are you being harassed by debt collectors with phone calls, letters or even lawsuits? 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You want to look in your local criminal procedure. You're in California, right? [01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:19.000] So we're going to look in California to find who has a duty because a lot of people think about the police. [01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.000] Hey, we should just go to the local police station. [01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:27.000] And even the people that have a duty to act on your criminal complaint sometimes don't even know that it's them. [01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:34.000] They even think it's the police. Oh yeah, you need to call the non-emergency number and see if somebody will take a report. [01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:42.000] No, you need to go yourself and look in the criminal procedure. It's probably going to be a magistrate. [01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:53.000] And in almost every case, a judge is a magistrate and you'll be able to take your criminal complaint to a judge. [01:47:53.000 --> 01:48:00.000] So the magistrate, whoever that person is, wears two hats. [01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:07.000] They've got a magistrate hat for figuring out, hey, I'm looking at a criminal complaint here. Would this be a crime? [01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:18.000] Somebody wrote on this, they swore under penalty of perjury, I promise he wore navy blue socks that didn't quite match. [01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:27.000] Yeah. So the magistrate can look at that and say, well, that doesn't go to any offense in the laws of this state. [01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:31.000] We're not going to make a court case out of this. [01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:39.000] Or they look at that and say, if everything here is taken as true, that is a crime. [01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:42.000] So that's called a determination of probable cause. [01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:49.000] That's what the magistrate does, or they're supposed to do according to law, when they are looking at a complaint. [01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:56.000] They have to take some action. And if the person that's accused is not there in front of them, they need to summon them. [01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:06.000] Or even send out a warrant for their arrest to drag that person to the magistrate and have them answer for what's going on here. [01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:12.000] Now, the first, the only thing the magistrate can do is hold an examining trial, or in California, [01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:16.000] I think it's called a preliminary inquiry or something like that. [01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:26.000] It's a pretrial hearing that is just for the purpose of determining probable cause. [01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:30.000] So that same person also has a judge hat they can put on. [01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:34.000] And it may be the only hat they know about. [01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:42.000] But the judge hat is after a criminal, after a case has been convinced, then they're going to go adjudicate that case. [01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:46.000] Then you have at least two parties are going to come before them in a courtroom [01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:50.000] and ring whatever papers and evidence and everything they've got, witnesses and all that. [01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:54.000] And they're going to hash it out in court. [01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:58.000] That's the hat that they tend to know about more. [01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:07.000] But if you want to invoke someone's duty and you want to be able to jump on them and force them to do their duty, [01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:09.000] well, you have to find out who that is. [01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:14.000] And I bet you're going to find in the California... [01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:19.000] Let's see if I can take a look at that real quick here. [01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:35.000] California Code, Section Penal Code, Part 2, Criminal Procedure. [01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:42.000] I don't know, the way it's broken up here, it's not going to be real easy to do on the air. [01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:49.000] I have to go into each one and then come back out of it, just doing the numbers. [01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:52.000] So that's where it is called Penal Code in California. [01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:54.000] I can see that Penal Code. [01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.000] And then you'll look at Part 2, Criminal Procedure. [01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:02.000] And then underneath that, I'm not sure yet which of the title and section you'll find underneath there. [01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:06.000] But I bet you it's going to tell you to go take it to a magistrate. [01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:12.000] And so that's what you do. [01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:14.000] Okay. [01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:17.000] Just one more quick question. [01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:24.000] How can I address his doing an after-tenancy background check, [01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.000] which is where he pulled up these other people's information? [01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:32.000] Everything I've been reading since I learned that he did this, that a consent, [01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:37.000] signed consent must be received from me, [01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:45.000] and he did not have any written consent from me to do a 14-month end-to-my-tenancy background check. [01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:48.000] This is all retaliatory? [01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:50.000] Well, that's your conclusion. [01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:52.000] Retaliatory is your conclusion. [01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:53.000] It's your interpretation of it. [01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.000] And you're probably right, but you have to be able to back that up. [01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:01.000] So go find in Part 1. [01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:04.000] So we were just looking at Part 2, Criminal Procedure. [01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.000] Part 1 is about the crimes. [01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:11.000] So you're going to want to find something in the crimes that lines up with what he did, [01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:18.000] whether that's malicious mischief or having access to your personal data when he shouldn't have. [01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:25.000] And it may get a little fuzzy there because you gave him permission at one point, [01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.000] and what's written on there? [01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:30.000] Does it say, you may run a background check? [01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:34.000] Well, then in that case, he could run, he could still do it 14 months later. [01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:38.000] Or does it say, you may run a background check for the next seven days? [01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.000] Okay, now you've got yourself covered. [01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:42.000] You know what I'm saying? [01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.000] Yeah. [01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:47.000] So take a look at that. [01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:53.000] Yeah, well, he did what he needed to do to determine that I would be a lieutenant, [01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:55.000] which I've done. [01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:56.000] Yeah. [01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:01.000] Yeah, I can talk about my speculation as to why, [01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.000] but I know that every time they're able to turn over a unit, they can charge more money. [01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:07.000] This is the money graph. [01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:09.000] Oh, yeah, and that's the kind of thing. [01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:14.000] See, that's common sense, and that's human figuring things out. [01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.000] And that would work great if you're in front of a jury. [01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:22.000] If you're suing him and you need a jury to believe you, absolutely. [01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:24.000] All of that matters. [01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:26.000] But you're not. [01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:31.000] You're sitting over on another hillside with a sniper rifle, [01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:35.000] and you're wanting to ring his bell with a criminal complaint. [01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:37.000] So it has to be all contained in the package, [01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:41.000] and it has to be limited to only what the offense is. [01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:45.000] The offense will have some specific language you can copy and paste from the offense [01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.000] to make your criminal complaint. [01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:50.000] And you just, you know, wherever it says, [01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:54.000] a person commits this offense if they do such and such. [01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:58.000] And it's all in this, like, conditional, subjunctive kind of tense. [01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000] And you just change it all over to past tense, and you say, he did this. [01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:02.000] This is what he did. [01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:04.000] He did this. He did this. [01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:12.000] And just use the same language exactly as it stands, and then attach your facts, the facts set to that. [01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:15.000] You know, and if it says whatever, without lawful justification, [01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:21.000] well, then you're going to have to find where does it define what lawful justification means. [01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.000] And you can claim that he didn't have it. [01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.000] He did not have effective consent. [01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:32.000] Or whatever is the phrase that's used in the language of the crime, [01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:35.000] then that's exactly what you're accusing him of. [01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.000] And yes, you're right about why he would want to do that. [01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:45.000] And of course, it makes sense, but he shouldn't be able to do this 14 months later. [01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:51.000] And yes, it makes sense that he's just trying to get more money because prices are going crazy. [01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:57.000] And that doesn't matter in terms of reporting his crime. [01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:02.000] You want to stick to just exactly what's going on, [01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:08.000] facts that support the essential elements of that offense, and leave the rest out. [01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:10.000] There's no fluff for the lawyers to jump on. [01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:13.000] They'll pull this other piece of yarn that doesn't really have anything to do with it, [01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.000] and they'll just talk all night about that. [01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:18.000] Okay. [01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:21.000] Yeah, it's been pretty intense. [01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:25.000] My cease and desist letter did seem to have an effect. [01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:30.000] He had stopped calling because he was calling me daytime, nighttime, Saturday, too. [01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:31.000] Wow. [01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:33.000] He didn't stop emailing me. [01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:37.000] Congratulations. [01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:38.000] What? [01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:41.000] I'm glad that worked. [01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.000] Apparently so, but he did email me saying, [01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:59.000] oh, it was malicious of you to accuse me of stalking and harassing you. [01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:01.000] How rude of you. [01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:02.000] How rude of me. [01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:03.000] How about that? [01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:07.000] Well, when I become a comedy writer, I will include the story, [01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:12.000] but in the meantime, I've got to weather this storm because it has not been fun. [01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:18.000] It's pulling me away from everything else that I need to focus upon and get done. [01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:23.000] So in a way, I feel like my life is being hijacked by this lunatic. [01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:25.000] Yeah. [01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:27.000] Well, I'm sorry. [01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.000] I can't identify with that feeling. [01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:35.000] It happens for all sorts of different reasons, you know, whether it's a landlord [01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:40.000] or whether it's a traffic accusation. [01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:42.000] If you want to stand up for what's right, [01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:46.000] it definitely does feel like your life is getting hijacked. [01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:48.000] I'm sorry to say. [01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:50.000] Well, I do. [01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:51.000] And you know what? [01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:56.000] Even though it's rough as all get out, I feel like I am on the battlefield. [01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:01.000] And I want to do what is necessary so that nobody else has to go through this [01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:05.000] because this is pattern, not precedent, Brett. [01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:10.000] And so if this makes it stop for anybody else, then yes, I will do this. [01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:15.000] And I'm not trying to martyr myself, you know, but he's out of control. [01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:17.000] And I know that I'm not the only one. [01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:21.000] He has done this too. [01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:23.000] And that brings up an interesting point. [01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:28.000] If you're able to contact anybody else who has been a previous tenant, [01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:30.000] you might run into some interesting stories, [01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:34.000] and they might even want to report and do some criminal complaints as well. [01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:37.000] I do have numbers of previous tenants, yeah. [01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:40.000] Who knows? They might want to sue him. [01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.000] Yeah, well, I'm going to make the calls. [01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.000] One said they would give a written statement, [01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:48.000] but I think people get a little uncomfortable about, you know, [01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:53.000] when you start involving the law, they get a little, you know, kind of... [01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.000] Right. Yeah, nobody knows exactly what's going to happen. [01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:00.000] Do I have to show up in court? Oh, that's scary. [01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:03.000] Yeah. Yeah. [01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:06.000] Well, thank you, Brett. I really appreciate it. [01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:09.000] Yeah. Well, thanks for calling in, Bina. [01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:12.000] I'm sorry we didn't get to everybody tonight. [01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:14.000] We almost did. [01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:19.000] And we're going to be... tomorrow evening is our four-hour... [01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:23.000] Randy calls it the four-hour marathon. 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