[00:00.000 --> 00:05.500]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.500 --> 00:09.500]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.500 --> 00:11.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.000 --> 00:14.500]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way
[00:14.500 --> 00:16.500]  to remember your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.500 --> 00:18.500]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.500 --> 00:22.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.000 --> 00:26.500]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.500 --> 00:32.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.000 --> 00:34.500]  Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.500 --> 00:47.500]  Spar. It's what fighters do.
[00:47.500 --> 00:51.000]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.000 --> 00:54.000]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.000 --> 00:56.500]  Spar with an extra P.
[00:56.500 --> 01:03.000]  S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, and R for religion.
[01:03.000 --> 01:06.500]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech,
[01:06.500 --> 01:08.500]  press, assembly, and religion.
[01:08.500 --> 01:10.500]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.500 --> 01:14.500]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.500 --> 01:17.500]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government,
[01:17.500 --> 01:21.000]  we can spell out the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:21.000 --> 01:30.500]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:30.500 --> 01:34.500]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.500 --> 01:38.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.000 --> 01:39.500]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.500 --> 01:43.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way
[01:43.000 --> 01:46.000]  to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.000 --> 01:48.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.000 --> 01:51.500]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.500 --> 01:56.500]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:56.500 --> 01:58.000]  So protect your rights.
[01:58.000 --> 02:01.500]  Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.500 --> 02:04.000]  Privacy. It's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.500 --> 02:19.500]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms
[02:19.500 --> 02:22.000]  around the Bill of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.000 --> 02:26.000]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms,
[02:26.000 --> 02:30.000]  arms that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.000 --> 02:33.500]  Get it? Two arms? Bear hug? Bear arms?
[02:33.500 --> 02:37.500]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.500 --> 02:38.500]  when he said,
[02:38.500 --> 02:43.500]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.500 --> 02:47.500]  one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America,
[02:47.500 --> 02:51.000]  but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:51.000 --> 03:17.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:17.000 --> 03:21.000]  Well, I received my remedy today.
[03:21.000 --> 03:25.000]  It came in a box just like they say.
[03:25.000 --> 03:28.000]  I accepted it for value right away.
[03:28.000 --> 03:32.500]  It's not sooner, not later.
[03:32.500 --> 03:40.000]  We are originators and the pathway seems to get straighter every day.
[03:40.000 --> 03:52.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio on this Friday, the 9th day of September, 2022.
[03:52.000 --> 04:00.000]  We are halfway through our four-hour info marathon and we're talking to Jason in California.
[04:00.000 --> 04:06.000]  Jason, years to come you're going to look back on this
[04:06.000 --> 04:12.000]  as the best legal education you could have ever gotten.
[04:12.000 --> 04:16.000]  You ought to send these guys a thank you card.
[04:16.000 --> 04:24.000]  You know, you go to school, you go to college and all those pretty girls around, all that beer available.
[04:24.000 --> 04:26.000]  Sometimes you don't get your work done.
[04:26.000 --> 04:30.000]  Here you have a special motivation.
[04:30.000 --> 04:33.000]  You don't get to procrastinate as much.
[04:33.000 --> 04:39.000]  And it's real-time, hands-on learning.
[04:39.000 --> 04:52.000]  When you get done with this, you'll walk around in this country with a level of comfort and confidence you didn't have before.
[04:52.000 --> 04:56.000]  You won't feel like you're subject to being pushed around.
[04:56.000 --> 05:03.000]  When those lights come on behind you, you won't get those butterflies in the pit of your stomach.
[05:03.000 --> 05:07.000]  You tend to look into your rear-view mirror and say,
[05:07.000 --> 05:14.000]  Bubba, you are not going to believe the romp I'm going to give you through the legal system.
[05:14.000 --> 05:16.000]  That is funny.
[05:16.000 --> 05:18.000]  Everything you do here will be worth it.
[05:18.000 --> 05:27.000]  Okay, so they're trying to get an injunction against you to prevent you from going into their facility.
[05:27.000 --> 05:29.000]  Yes.
[05:29.000 --> 05:37.000]  It's retaliation, basically, because they told me I'm not allowed to shop there and I just keep shopping.
[05:37.000 --> 05:41.000]  So they had to make, you know, and I called the cops on them a couple of times.
[05:41.000 --> 05:46.000]  Are you still shopping there during the, as this process is going on in the courts?
[05:46.000 --> 05:48.000]  It's been, it's hilarious.
[05:48.000 --> 05:53.000]  Yeah, I've been there about 20 times since they filed this thing.
[05:53.000 --> 06:00.000]  I even have the main, the protected employee alleged.
[06:00.000 --> 06:06.000]  She, I have her on video or audio, you know, approaching me.
[06:06.000 --> 06:16.000]  She literally, she's showing up on the Zoom, you know, to perjure herself.
[06:16.000 --> 06:22.000]  And she came up to me and she's like, Hi, Jason, how's it going?
[06:22.000 --> 06:26.000]  You know, just wanted to let you know you're not allowed here.
[06:26.000 --> 06:32.000]  And when you're ready to check out, you know, I'll check you out.
[06:32.000 --> 06:38.000]  That was, I attached that transcript to my motion to dismiss.
[06:38.000 --> 06:47.000]  But so, I want to get you up to speed, but I also, you know, I have, there are a few hurdles that I'm running into.
[06:47.000 --> 06:56.000]  So let's see here, did we, before I had the second hearing, I submitted those two motions.
[06:56.000 --> 07:04.000]  One guy rejected for ridiculous reason, which was, no, it was just, it was like the Twilight Zone.
[07:04.000 --> 07:09.000]  The supervisor of the clerk's office was helping me.
[07:09.000 --> 07:10.000]  I handed it to her.
[07:10.000 --> 07:13.000]  She's like, I'm going to take this directly over there.
[07:13.000 --> 07:19.000]  And the rejection said I filed it in the wrong department.
[07:19.000 --> 07:24.000]  And I need to, it basically said I need to file it in the room that I filed it in.
[07:24.000 --> 07:28.000]  Okay, hold on, hold on.
[07:28.000 --> 07:32.000]  I filed motions with the court.
[07:32.000 --> 07:36.000]  The clerk doesn't handle it right.
[07:36.000 --> 07:44.000]  I could have went to the clerk and said, hey, you know, when I file these motions, you didn't handle them right.
[07:44.000 --> 07:48.000]  And they'll do a little song and dance and tip your toe around.
[07:48.000 --> 07:56.000]  But instead I was in a Zoom hearing and asked the judge to arrest her.
[07:56.000 --> 08:03.000]  I have no more problems with documentation being filed correctly.
[08:03.000 --> 08:12.000]  Try to remember this, this takes a little while for it to settle in.
[08:12.000 --> 08:16.000]  Yes, definitely true.
[08:16.000 --> 08:21.000]  So I made a huge mistake at the second hearing.
[08:21.000 --> 08:22.000]  Wait a minute.
[08:22.000 --> 08:25.000]  What?
[08:25.000 --> 08:29.000]  I've got real loud.
[08:29.000 --> 08:30.000]  You've got what?
[08:30.000 --> 08:36.000]  I've got real loud.
[08:36.000 --> 08:39.000]  Your audio is breaking up, Randy.
[08:39.000 --> 08:42.000]  Yeah, I'm not sure what's happening there.
[08:42.000 --> 08:47.000]  I was muted while you were talking.
[08:47.000 --> 08:50.000]  I'm going to have to reboot.
[08:50.000 --> 08:54.000]  Wait a minute, there it goes.
[08:54.000 --> 08:55.000]  Okay.
[08:55.000 --> 08:58.000]  Keep talking, Randy.
[08:58.000 --> 09:01.000]  Okay.
[09:01.000 --> 09:04.000]  I've got an archive running in my ear.
[09:04.000 --> 09:06.000]  Oh, that's Andy.
[09:06.000 --> 09:08.000]  That is odd.
[09:08.000 --> 09:13.000]  Pull that headphone out of your ear.
[09:13.000 --> 09:16.000]  Just leave this one in.
[09:16.000 --> 09:19.000]  Jason, I think this is your opportunity to tell him to take his phone
[09:19.000 --> 09:22.000]  and beat himself around the eyes and the ears.
[09:22.000 --> 09:23.000]  Okay.
[09:23.000 --> 09:30.000]  Yeah, I think he's got too much medicine in his lap.
[09:30.000 --> 09:32.000]  I've still got it, Brett.
[09:32.000 --> 09:38.000]  It sounds like an archive running in my headset.
[09:38.000 --> 09:47.000]  Do you have to think, is it in one side or both sides?
[09:47.000 --> 09:51.000]  I'm not sure what's going on.
[09:51.000 --> 09:54.000]  Okay.
[09:54.000 --> 10:03.000]  I'll stop.
[10:03.000 --> 10:16.000]  I'm not sure what's going on.
[10:16.000 --> 10:19.000]  Are you still there with us, Randy?
[10:19.000 --> 10:23.000]  No, I'm going to reboot.
[10:23.000 --> 10:25.000]  All right.
[10:25.000 --> 10:26.000]  All right.
[10:26.000 --> 10:31.000]  Well, I guess Jason, go ahead and we'll just recap as soon as he gets
[10:31.000 --> 10:32.000]  restarted here.
[10:32.000 --> 10:35.000]  But you and I, you can hear me okay?
[10:35.000 --> 10:37.000]  Yes.
[10:37.000 --> 10:38.000]  Okay.
[10:38.000 --> 10:43.000]  So let's see here.
[10:43.000 --> 10:46.000]  Okay, had a second hearing.
[10:46.000 --> 10:48.000]  The liar lied again.
[10:48.000 --> 10:52.000]  He said he didn't get the motion.
[10:52.000 --> 10:58.000]  So I did have, I brought the, you know, proof of service and returned
[10:58.000 --> 11:01.000]  the seat and it was weird.
[11:01.000 --> 11:04.000]  So he didn't follow any response.
[11:04.000 --> 11:07.000]  He didn't respond or oppose it.
[11:07.000 --> 11:13.000]  And the commissioner, like this is where I messed up.
[11:13.000 --> 11:20.000]  Like I didn't realize I had to verbally hate or argue my motion.
[11:20.000 --> 11:23.000]  So she's like, all right.
[11:23.000 --> 11:29.000]  So do you want to argue your motion?
[11:29.000 --> 11:32.000]  Yeah, that's one of the things I didn't realize early on either is just
[11:32.000 --> 11:37.000]  having a good motion in there doesn't mean that they're going to let it all
[11:37.000 --> 11:38.000]  be considered.
[11:38.000 --> 11:43.000]  So you either have to somehow reference it, bring it in to get it on the
[11:43.000 --> 11:45.000]  record.
[11:45.000 --> 11:50.000]  Otherwise, yeah, they tend to act like you don't have anything in the
[11:50.000 --> 11:52.000]  grounds of it and so it's nothing but a title.
[11:52.000 --> 11:54.000]  They're going to treat it that way anyway.
[11:54.000 --> 11:59.000]  So you have to reference it or somehow get it on the record that you're
[11:59.000 --> 12:01.000]  bringing its contents to the record.
[12:01.000 --> 12:04.000]  Some people just read the entire thing.
[12:04.000 --> 12:05.000]  Right.
[12:05.000 --> 12:07.000]  I mean, I should have, I could have just read it.
[12:07.000 --> 12:15.000]  But I didn't.
[12:15.000 --> 12:17.000]  What happened, I realized the major flaws in their petition.
[12:17.000 --> 12:22.000]  And that's what I verbalized when she was asking me about the motion.
[12:22.000 --> 12:27.000]  So some major issues popped up there.
[12:27.000 --> 12:31.000]  And that's one of the things I need to figure out how to deal with because
[12:31.000 --> 12:38.000]  this commissioner and the liar, so this is what the petition says.
[12:38.000 --> 12:45.000]  You know, you can get this order if you're an employer and you get it on
[12:45.000 --> 12:52.000]  behalf of your employee that suffered a threat of violence or either
[12:52.000 --> 12:57.000]  suffered violence or a threat of violence, credible threat.
[12:57.000 --> 13:05.000]  And so that's the first main thing.
[13:05.000 --> 13:09.000]  And the other thing is, you know, if you're seeking these orders based off
[13:09.000 --> 13:14.000]  of your employee and others' information that you have not personally
[13:14.000 --> 13:19.000]  observed, you must have each of them complete a declaration and attach it
[13:19.000 --> 13:21.000]  to the petition.
[13:21.000 --> 13:27.000]  So the petitioner...
[13:27.000 --> 13:29.000]  They didn't go through all those steps, did they?
[13:29.000 --> 13:32.000]  Well, no, they messed them up.
[13:32.000 --> 13:37.000]  The petitioner, the employer is Trader Joe.
[13:37.000 --> 13:43.000]  The employee, the main employee is this Lady Nicola.
[13:43.000 --> 13:50.000]  And then they listed one to like seven other employees are listed as well
[13:50.000 --> 13:52.000]  as additional protected persons.
[13:52.000 --> 14:00.000]  So yeah, and they say the description is like I assaulted, battered,
[14:00.000 --> 14:06.000]  stalked, made credible threats of violence, willing statements,
[14:06.000 --> 14:08.000]  and, you know, just all...
[14:08.000 --> 14:10.000]  They checked all the boxes.
[14:10.000 --> 14:18.000]  And then when they say, you know, describe what happened, it says that I
[14:18.000 --> 14:24.000]  harassed and intimidated and exhibited aggressive behavior.
[14:24.000 --> 14:29.000]  And then there's, you know, the attachments or the declarations by employees.
[14:29.000 --> 14:33.000]  So the very last page where you sign...
[14:33.000 --> 14:35.000]  But those are conclusory statements anyway.
[14:35.000 --> 14:39.000]  If you don't make an accusation by calling the definition of something,
[14:39.000 --> 14:44.000]  you have to have some evidentiary facts that go to that.
[14:44.000 --> 14:45.000]  Right.
[14:45.000 --> 14:48.000]  What does it mean that somebody intimidated somebody else?
[14:48.000 --> 14:50.000]  What does that mean?
[14:50.000 --> 14:52.000]  Harassment is a crime in itself.
[14:52.000 --> 14:56.000]  It has several pieces to it, elements.
[14:56.000 --> 15:03.000]  And you have to support each one of those elements with some evidentiary facts.
[15:03.000 --> 15:09.000]  That's called conclusion that they've made there to say that it was harassment.
[15:09.000 --> 15:10.000]  It was intimidation.
[15:10.000 --> 15:12.000]  It was whatever.
[15:12.000 --> 15:16.000]  That's not really good by itself.
[15:16.000 --> 15:19.000]  Well, there's so many issues with this thing.
[15:19.000 --> 15:25.000]  So, you know, the temporary thing was denied.
[15:25.000 --> 15:30.000]  So let's see here.
[15:30.000 --> 15:34.000]  Okay, the main last issue is the signature.
[15:34.000 --> 15:37.000]  So you have the lawyer signed her name.
[15:37.000 --> 15:40.000]  And underneath that it says, you know, there's the declaration.
[15:40.000 --> 15:45.000]  I declare under penalty of perjury, you know, under the laws of California
[15:45.000 --> 15:52.000]  that all the information above and on all the attachments is true and correct.
[15:52.000 --> 15:56.000]  And it's signed by Nicola.
[15:56.000 --> 15:59.000]  Her title is make.
[15:59.000 --> 16:10.000]  So the employee, the protected employee has signed this as the conditioner.
[16:10.000 --> 16:13.000]  So I brought that up.
[16:13.000 --> 16:16.000]  I'm like, you know, that's insane.
[16:16.000 --> 16:21.000]  She can't be the employer and the employee.
[16:21.000 --> 16:29.000]  And the liars said, oh, she's authorized to sign.
[16:29.000 --> 16:33.000]  And I was like, well, what evidence do you have of that?
[16:33.000 --> 16:38.000]  But again, it doesn't matter if she's authorized.
[16:38.000 --> 16:41.000]  She still can't be both roles.
[16:41.000 --> 16:44.000]  They can't be both roles.
[16:44.000 --> 16:53.000]  The commissioner says she's accepting it because the liar is an officer of the court.
[16:53.000 --> 16:54.000]  All right.
[16:54.000 --> 16:56.000]  Well, hold that thought.
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[19:44.000 --> 19:46.000]  I'm Brett Fountain.
[19:46.000 --> 19:51.000]  And we're speaking this evening with Jason in California.
[19:51.000 --> 19:53.000]  All right, Jason, we are back.
[19:53.000 --> 19:55.000]  Hey, yeah.
[19:55.000 --> 20:12.000]  So we left off with this commissioner accepting employee signature on where the employer signature needs to be.
[20:12.000 --> 20:15.000]  Right, trying to be the employer and the employee.
[20:15.000 --> 20:16.000]  Oh, right.
[20:16.000 --> 20:22.000]  And I forgot to tell you, so none of these statements are signed.
[20:22.000 --> 20:25.000]  None of them have a declaration at the bottom.
[20:25.000 --> 20:37.000]  And the commissioner said, well, you know, the petition signed that all the documents are under Berger.
[20:37.000 --> 20:40.000]  I'm like, she can't sign for all these people.
[20:40.000 --> 20:45.000]  Oh, yeah, there's six different people that wrote statements, six different employees.
[20:45.000 --> 20:50.000]  All the employees that have been harassing me the last year, they all made statements.
[20:50.000 --> 20:55.000]  But they all made it through the mouth of this one attorney?
[20:55.000 --> 20:56.000]  Yeah.
[20:56.000 --> 20:57.000]  How is that?
[20:57.000 --> 21:01.000]  Did they hire this attorney?
[21:01.000 --> 21:07.000]  Well, I think the company probably has this firm just on retainer or something.
[21:07.000 --> 21:09.000]  Who knows?
[21:09.000 --> 21:10.000]  Oh, right.
[21:10.000 --> 21:11.000]  And that's another thing.
[21:11.000 --> 21:15.000]  So the attorney that was showing up was not the one on the petition.
[21:15.000 --> 21:24.000]  And I brought up, you know, and so at this hearing, you know, I brought it up.
[21:24.000 --> 21:33.000]  And the commissioner is like, well, if you want to have this motion heard, you know, we need you to just continue.
[21:33.000 --> 21:35.000]  So she kind of blew past that.
[21:35.000 --> 21:50.000]  And so, okay, and then so it got continued because the liar said, you know, he needs like an hour.
[21:50.000 --> 21:53.000]  And I'm like, well, I need an hour, hour and a half.
[21:53.000 --> 22:00.000]  And they're used to these little restraining orders being like 15 minutes tops.
[22:00.000 --> 22:11.000]  So we've got another continuance and that hearing just happened two days ago.
[22:11.000 --> 22:23.000]  So after that hearing, I refiled my motion to remove the stipulation.
[22:23.000 --> 22:31.000]  I sent production requests and interrogatories.
[22:31.000 --> 22:37.000]  I submitted a request for continuance.
[22:37.000 --> 22:40.000]  Wait, you moved for continuance?
[22:40.000 --> 22:47.000]  Yeah, because the discovery stuff takes 35 days if you mail it.
[22:47.000 --> 22:57.000]  So what they kept doing, they kept scheduling these hearings for like 15 days, you know, not enough time to do anything.
[22:57.000 --> 22:58.000]  Right.
[22:58.000 --> 23:04.000]  Yeah, and that cuts you off from your deadlines that you have to have something in.
[23:04.000 --> 23:08.000]  Some motion has to be in X number of days before the next hearing.
[23:08.000 --> 23:12.000]  So they're essentially eliminating that timeframe for you.
[23:12.000 --> 23:25.000]  Yeah, I mean, they're like, you just don't know which rules they're going to play by and which ones they're going to ignore in this weird family court quasi thing.
[23:25.000 --> 23:26.000]  So let's hear.
[23:26.000 --> 23:30.000]  So this is what I submitted before this hearing.
[23:30.000 --> 23:39.000]  Also, an opposition to the remote hearings, like I've been going into court and all these jokers are showing up on the screen.
[23:39.000 --> 23:50.000]  And I thought about you like, I mean, I don't have time to deal with this, but you might want to look at it.
[23:50.000 --> 23:52.000]  So they don't do Zoom.
[23:52.000 --> 23:59.000]  They have their own thing called LA Court Connect, and they do not allow the public to view remotely.
[23:59.000 --> 24:07.000]  You can view it in person, but you can't view remotely, which is insane.
[24:07.000 --> 24:16.000]  I guess they probably got a little bit more publicity than they wanted on their, you know, light shining on concrete activities.
[24:16.000 --> 24:17.000]  Yeah.
[24:17.000 --> 24:20.000]  They probably want to try to shut that down.
[24:20.000 --> 24:33.000]  Some judge put out an order like removing that because somebody recorded it and you're not allowed to record.
[24:33.000 --> 24:39.000]  So they're like, OK, no more public on the remote.
[24:39.000 --> 24:42.000]  But so, yeah, I want to get rid of that.
[24:42.000 --> 24:47.000]  Do you know anybody, excuse me, just about this shutting off the remote.
[24:47.000 --> 24:48.000]  I just had an idea.
[24:48.000 --> 24:57.000]  Do you know anybody who is, they're unable to, maybe either in a wheelchair or somehow mobility challenged them.
[24:57.000 --> 25:04.000]  They would love to be a court watcher, but for whatever reason, they have an issue with that.
[25:04.000 --> 25:06.000]  They can't get to the court.
[25:06.000 --> 25:11.000]  Anybody like that that might be willing to tackle that?
[25:11.000 --> 25:12.000]  That's funny.
[25:12.000 --> 25:14.000]  I mean, not technically not here.
[25:14.000 --> 25:15.000]  I know someone.
[25:15.000 --> 25:16.000]  Yeah.
[25:16.000 --> 25:19.000]  I mean, I know someone in another state.
[25:19.000 --> 25:22.000]  Yeah.
[25:22.000 --> 25:27.000]  So see, that person can say you're not making your court open to the public.
[25:27.000 --> 25:29.000]  You have the capacity to do it.
[25:29.000 --> 25:30.000]  You have a switch to flip.
[25:30.000 --> 25:34.000]  In fact, it was already working and you have an order to turn it off.
[25:34.000 --> 25:41.000]  So I say you shut me out of your courtroom.
[25:41.000 --> 25:45.000]  Yeah.
[25:45.000 --> 25:49.000]  Put that on the list of things to possibly deal with.
[25:49.000 --> 25:53.000]  So go ahead and invest down your trail.
[25:53.000 --> 25:55.000]  So I put that in.
[25:55.000 --> 26:02.000]  I put in a declaration that I sent the discovery because they keep lying that they're not getting stuff.
[26:02.000 --> 26:10.000]  And I got a subpoena because I wanted to get some body camera footage.
[26:10.000 --> 26:14.000]  So that's what I did before this hearing.
[26:14.000 --> 26:16.000]  Then I get to the hearing.
[26:16.000 --> 26:19.000]  I did all this on the 2nd of September.
[26:19.000 --> 26:23.000]  The hearing was the 8th.
[26:23.000 --> 26:25.000]  No, what day is it?
[26:25.000 --> 26:27.000]  No, it was the 6th.
[26:27.000 --> 26:34.000]  So the hearing was on the 6th and there was a different lawyer on the screen.
[26:34.000 --> 26:38.000]  There were eight people signed up remotely.
[26:38.000 --> 26:46.000]  So the very first thing was I was like, what's going on here?
[26:46.000 --> 26:55.000]  Did you get my opposition to a remote hearing?
[26:55.000 --> 26:59.000]  And the commissioner did not get it.
[26:59.000 --> 27:05.000]  And that turned into like a whole discussion.
[27:05.000 --> 27:09.000]  Apparently, I was supposed – I mean, I don't know if this is accurate,
[27:09.000 --> 27:19.000]  but the commissioner ordered me to serve a copy to the liar so they can respond to it.
[27:19.000 --> 27:25.000]  Well, if you don't have that, then you were effectively not served with that.
[27:25.000 --> 27:31.000]  I mean, how did you know that he was telling you to do that?
[27:31.000 --> 27:32.000]  Oh, no, no.
[27:32.000 --> 27:34.000]  This was all verbal.
[27:34.000 --> 27:36.000]  She did verbal.
[27:36.000 --> 27:38.000]  Oh, right here in the open court.
[27:38.000 --> 27:39.000]  Okay.
[27:39.000 --> 27:40.000]  Yeah, yeah.
[27:40.000 --> 27:46.000]  We were in court and I was – I mean, because I had submitted it on the 2nd
[27:46.000 --> 27:50.000]  and there should have been enough time for everyone to look at it
[27:50.000 --> 27:56.000]  and at least on their online case file.
[27:56.000 --> 27:57.000]  Oh, yeah.
[27:57.000 --> 28:00.000]  They don't have physical files to look at.
[28:00.000 --> 28:02.000]  It's all online.
[28:02.000 --> 28:05.000]  So I don't know what they do with your documents after you give it to them
[28:05.000 --> 28:07.000]  or they scan it and then they shred it.
[28:07.000 --> 28:10.000]  Like, who knows what they're doing?
[28:10.000 --> 28:16.000]  But so I got ordered to send a copy to the liar.
[28:16.000 --> 28:22.000]  So there was a new liar there and the commissioner – I actually like forced the issue.
[28:22.000 --> 28:27.000]  I gave – you know, I printed out a copy of the code and I said, you know,
[28:27.000 --> 28:32.000]  I would like us to follow this Code of Civil Procedure.
[28:32.000 --> 28:35.000]  They're supposed to give notice and they haven't done it.
[28:35.000 --> 28:37.000]  This is the third lawyer.
[28:37.000 --> 28:44.000]  So the lawyer that signed the petition, that one's not even at the company anymore.
[28:44.000 --> 28:52.000]  And I was hoping it was going to be – I wasn't expecting a different lawyer.
[28:52.000 --> 28:57.000]  I was hoping it was going to be the last guy and that he was going to lie again
[28:57.000 --> 29:01.000]  and I would catch him in the lie.
[29:01.000 --> 29:02.000]  But it wasn't.
[29:02.000 --> 29:04.000]  It was a different one.
[29:04.000 --> 29:10.000]  And the commissioner actually followed – she followed through with that
[29:10.000 --> 29:18.000]  and ordered them to submit a formal change of attorney.
[29:18.000 --> 29:28.000]  So she also – she was very excited to deny my motion to remove the stipulation
[29:28.000 --> 29:34.000]  because I had not signed it.
[29:34.000 --> 29:36.000]  I forgot to sign it.
[29:36.000 --> 29:39.000]  She was excited to deny it?
[29:39.000 --> 29:40.000]  But you're right there.
[29:40.000 --> 29:43.000]  You could just sign it.
[29:43.000 --> 29:44.000]  Interesting.
[29:44.000 --> 29:51.000]  Yes, sometimes they want to reject something for a reason that is minor and correctable
[29:51.000 --> 29:54.000]  and that's not really appropriate.
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[33:12.000 --> 33:31.000]  Yeah, yeah, whoa
[33:31.000 --> 33:49.000]  I won't, I won't, I won't let you rule the world over my heart.
[33:49.000 --> 33:56.000]  Brett and I are both waiting to see who's going to bring us in.
[33:56.000 --> 34:01.000]  We are, we are Bachelorette and Kelton, Brett, Fountain, Ruebler Radio
[34:01.000 --> 34:05.000]  and we're talking to Jason in California.
[34:05.000 --> 34:09.000]  Okay, Jason, where were we?
[34:09.000 --> 34:13.000]  Well, getting you up to speed.
[34:13.000 --> 34:22.000]  So I just had a hearing, third hearing, and my…
[34:22.000 --> 34:24.000]  Oh, oh, wait, wait, Jason, I've been listening.
[34:24.000 --> 34:29.000]  I just had a reboot and come back on, so I've been listening.
[34:29.000 --> 34:43.000]  So ultimately what went down was I was granted the continuance to allow time for discovery.
[34:43.000 --> 34:55.000]  And, you know, the lawyer, the liar mentioned something about I'm probably going to have issues with their responses.
[34:55.000 --> 35:00.000]  So I don't know what I'm going to get from them.
[35:00.000 --> 35:06.000]  Did you ask him if he was designing his responses so that you would have issues with him?
[35:06.000 --> 35:07.000]  No, I didn't.
[35:07.000 --> 35:12.000]  I didn't speak directly to the liar.
[35:12.000 --> 35:15.000]  Good.
[35:15.000 --> 35:19.000]  You know, it sounded like, well, yeah, I just have no idea.
[35:19.000 --> 35:27.000]  They're probably going to deny a bunch of things I requested, like production of stuff.
[35:27.000 --> 35:32.000]  I want emails, I want video, I want everything they've got.
[35:32.000 --> 35:40.000]  Well, I was using that opportunity to get stuff that I can use for the lawsuit.
[35:40.000 --> 35:44.000]  But so it's been continued.
[35:44.000 --> 35:47.000]  And now just the question is, how do I deal?
[35:47.000 --> 35:57.000]  Like, so this, from what I understand, I mean, okay, I can resubmit the motion to remove the stipulation to get rid of this commissioner.
[35:57.000 --> 36:08.000]  I could also potentially disqualify her for, I mean, that stunt that she's basically accepting the signature of this employee
[36:08.000 --> 36:13.000]  because the lawyer said she's authorized.
[36:13.000 --> 36:14.000]  Okay.
[36:13.000 --> 36:14.000]  Hold on.
[36:14.000 --> 36:15.000]  Hold on.
[36:15.000 --> 36:23.000]  This goes to either interlocutory appeal or petition for remandamus.
[36:23.000 --> 36:37.000]  You ask the Superior Court, the Court of Appeals to rule that these documents are insufficient to be presented to the court.
[36:37.000 --> 36:57.000]  And it's ripe for a petition for declaratory judgment or interlocutory appeal because the ruling would have a material effect on your ability to prosecute your case.
[36:57.000 --> 37:00.000]  And so it would interfere with everything following.
[37:00.000 --> 37:10.000]  So it's appropriate that we have a proper ruling on this rather than waste all our time having these hearings and such to have to go back and redo them.
[37:10.000 --> 37:12.000]  So question about that.
[37:12.000 --> 37:20.000]  You mentioned it could be ripe for interlocutory or declaratory.
[37:20.000 --> 37:31.000]  And you might just speak to a little bit, speak to, just to clarify, does a declaratory judgment happen in your case?
[37:31.000 --> 37:36.000]  Are you starting a new thing? Are you attaching it? Is this coming across as a counterclaim?
[37:36.000 --> 37:59.000]  When a judge renders a ruling that you believe is improper and that ruling will have a, will affect your ability to pursue litigation or will likely lead to being overturned in appeal,
[37:59.000 --> 38:13.000]  you can go to the Court of Appeals and ask them to order the trial judge to properly apply the law to the facts so that you don't spend all your time litigating out this issue
[38:13.000 --> 38:19.000]  only to have this particular ruling overturned and you have to go back and do it again.
[38:19.000 --> 38:26.000]  The appellate court would wind up reversing and remanding this back to the trial court for a proper hearing.
[38:26.000 --> 38:36.000]  So there is a primary document filed with the court and you allege that the document is insufficient on its face.
[38:36.000 --> 38:41.000]  And that's the only thing supporting this litigation.
[38:41.000 --> 38:53.000]  So you're going to spend all your time and money litigating this issue only to have the Court of Appeals order the judge to go back and relitigate this case without those documents
[38:53.000 --> 39:00.000]  or order those individuals to file a verified document.
[39:00.000 --> 39:09.000]  So in the interest of judicial economy, it's appropriate that you ask for a mandamus.
[39:09.000 --> 39:19.000]  Now, a mandamus is where the court issues a mandate to a lower court ordering that court to do something that's required to do.
[39:19.000 --> 39:39.000]  Interlocutory appeal is where the judge renders a ruling that would essentially eliminate your ability to adjudicate the case
[39:39.000 --> 39:52.000]  so that anything they rule that would have the effect of rendering all of the actions before the court void,
[39:52.000 --> 40:01.000]  anywhere where the appellate court would likely reverse and remand, you can file an interlocutory appeal.
[40:01.000 --> 40:17.000]  Instead of going through the whole legal process and then appeal at the end, you can do an interlocutory and appeal up front to get what you believe is an improper ruling reversed.
[40:17.000 --> 40:25.000]  There's not a whole lot of difference between interlocutory and mandamus in their effect.
[40:25.000 --> 40:31.000]  But the good thing about it is you get out of the lower courts and you get into the higher courts.
[40:31.000 --> 40:39.000]  And when those higher courts render rulings on fact and law, that becomes law.
[40:39.000 --> 40:45.000]  So you want to ask the appellate court a question they're not going to want to answer.
[40:45.000 --> 40:53.000]  So how about declaratory? You spoke to mandamus and interlocutory.
[40:53.000 --> 41:00.000]  Is that happening inside your suit? Is he going to start a new one?
[41:00.000 --> 41:07.000]  Declaratory judgment suit is generally a suit that stands on its own.
[41:07.000 --> 41:17.000]  You can add a petition for declaratory judgment within a motion or pleading that you're filing.
[41:17.000 --> 41:32.000]  You say, I'm filing this motion and in order for this motion to be valid, I have to have this fact and this fact and this fact in the court.
[41:32.000 --> 41:38.000]  But the court has refused to allow one of these facts into the court.
[41:38.000 --> 41:47.000]  So you petition for declaratory judgment and ask the court to rule that you have a right to put this piece of information in the court.
[41:47.000 --> 41:58.000]  And they're not ruling on the merits. They're just saying the facts and laws say that something should be ruled on this way.
[41:58.000 --> 42:01.000]  And that takes it out of the hand of the trial court.
[42:01.000 --> 42:11.000]  When you have a trial court that's been bought and paid for, there are things the court is not going to want to rule in your favor.
[42:11.000 --> 42:25.000]  So the primary elements that you need determined in order to win your case, you can file those in a petition for declaratory judgment.
[42:25.000 --> 42:41.000]  And when I said elements, if there is an issue that goes to the difference of opinion between two parties,
[42:41.000 --> 42:44.000]  that's a little more difficult for summary judgment.
[42:44.000 --> 42:57.000]  But when you ask the court to rule on facts and law, when a person is arrested, the law says they're to be taken directly to the nearest magistrate.
[42:57.000 --> 43:00.000]  And I just talked to my son-in-law today who's a JP.
[43:00.000 --> 43:06.000]  He said, well, all my training says that you don't have a right to an examining trial.
[43:06.000 --> 43:07.000]  Say what?
[43:07.000 --> 43:12.000]  I don't have a right to an examining trial. Of course I don't have a right to an examining trial.
[43:12.000 --> 43:15.000]  Examining trial is a statutory requirement.
[43:15.000 --> 43:20.000]  Well, our training didn't require us to do that.
[43:20.000 --> 43:22.000]  Okay.
[43:22.000 --> 43:37.000]  I filed a petition for declaratory judgment and asked the court to rule that a citizen has a due process right to an examining trial
[43:37.000 --> 43:43.000]  because an examining trial is a statutory requirement.
[43:43.000 --> 43:46.000]  And they answer that question.
[43:46.000 --> 43:49.000]  That tells me how I can best move forward.
[43:49.000 --> 43:51.000]  I hope that makes sense.
[43:51.000 --> 43:53.000]  I think I confused myself there.
[43:53.000 --> 44:00.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio, we'll be right back.
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[46:22.000 --> 46:24.000]  Thank you.
[46:52.000 --> 47:14.000]  Okay, Jason, we've used a lot of time.
[47:14.000 --> 47:19.000]  We've got a full board of callers and we've gotten down to our last hour.
[47:19.000 --> 47:24.000]  What else? Have we answered all your questions or issues?
[47:24.000 --> 47:30.000]  No, but I do hear you on having the full board and all that.
[47:30.000 --> 47:46.000]  So I should look into the writ of mandamus and interrogatory appeal for this issue of the commissioner accepting this faulty petition.
[47:46.000 --> 47:50.000]  Let me see if I can explain that in a way that makes sense.
[47:50.000 --> 48:07.000]  Any time the court renders a ruling that you think is not accurate, but it would hamstring your ability to continue to adjudicate your case, that goes to interlocutory appeal.
[48:07.000 --> 48:19.000]  If the court fails to rule properly on a issue, that goes to mandamus.
[48:19.000 --> 48:30.000]  You can go to the court of appeals and ask them to issue a mandate ordering the judge to do what he's supposed to do.
[48:30.000 --> 48:35.000]  Does that make sense or is it still clear as mud?
[48:35.000 --> 48:44.000]  I'm still a little confused because I don't know what a ruling is and what's not just this lady's opinion, Mike.
[48:44.000 --> 48:51.000]  When she signs a order, that's a ruling.
[48:51.000 --> 49:02.000]  If you're in the federal court, you can always ask for findings of fact and conclusions of law, or the way you do it in the federal court is you ask for a judgment.
[49:02.000 --> 49:06.000]  You're in the California State Court, correct?
[49:06.000 --> 49:08.000]  Yeah.
[49:08.000 --> 49:23.000]  Ask the judge what facts were determined and what law was applied to the facts that led you to this ruling in a motion for clarification.
[49:23.000 --> 49:29.000]  Motion for clarification, okay.
[49:29.000 --> 49:40.000]  In some states, they have, like in Texas, has findings of fact and conclusions of law, but there are restrictions on how you can do that.
[49:40.000 --> 49:42.000]  You get a little creative.
[49:42.000 --> 49:46.000]  In motions and pleadings, you ask the court for what you want.
[49:46.000 --> 49:52.000]  You tell the court that you believe that the court was in error in this ruling.
[49:52.000 --> 50:07.000]  So please provide for me the facts on which you relied and the law that you applied to those facts in order to come to this conclusion.
[50:07.000 --> 50:12.000]  In California, they tend to, their response to that is just crickets.
[50:12.000 --> 50:31.000]  So when they don't, then you file a petition for writ of mandamus to the court of appeals and ask the court of appeals to order the judge to give you your findings of fact and conclusions of law.
[50:31.000 --> 50:33.000]  Does that make sense?
[50:33.000 --> 50:35.000]  Yeah.
[50:35.000 --> 50:46.000]  Well, it doesn't make sense how, I would submit this motion and then they would set a hearing for the motion and we'd have to wait for that hearing.
[50:46.000 --> 50:52.000]  They keep doing the same process.
[50:52.000 --> 51:01.000]  One thing that might make it easier for you to wait, you know, lawyers tend to have a lot of other clients,
[51:01.000 --> 51:17.000]  they have to take time in order to be able to schedule everything in, is every time you get a ruling you don't like, bar-grieve the lawyers on the other side just for yucks.
[51:17.000 --> 51:23.000]  If the lawyer, if the judge does something wrong, bar-grieve the lawyer for not correcting the judge.
[51:23.000 --> 51:30.000]  If the lawyer says something to you you don't like, bar-grieve him for it.
[51:30.000 --> 51:38.000]  And then when you see law firms change, then you know you're stinging them.
[51:38.000 --> 51:44.000]  Well, I'm definitely annoying them a lot.
[51:44.000 --> 51:51.000]  The commissioner said multiple times that this has been highly unusual.
[51:51.000 --> 52:09.000]  They're getting caught up in procedural stuff and, you know, these things usually take 15 minutes and we're going to have our fourth hearing and she's like, you know, we have to get this done.
[52:09.000 --> 52:17.000]  So at least that makes me smile and definitely like being super annoying to them.
[52:17.000 --> 52:24.000]  You know, there are so many tools to be annoying and you can bar-grieve them every time they move.
[52:24.000 --> 52:30.000]  You'll know you're winning when they change law firms.
[52:30.000 --> 52:32.000]  Yeah, that would be awesome.
[52:32.000 --> 52:41.000]  The first one will call, cry uncle and hit the road and you'll get a new one.
[52:41.000 --> 52:42.000]  All right.
[52:42.000 --> 52:51.000]  Sandy, how do these new ones, how do they know when you said, and when the new guy comes in, he's going to know why he's getting, why he's the replacement there.
[52:51.000 --> 52:53.000]  He's going to know what happened to the first guy.
[52:53.000 --> 52:54.000]  Oh, yeah.
[52:54.000 --> 52:55.000]  They're not.
[52:55.000 --> 52:56.000]  How is this going to happen?
[52:56.000 --> 52:58.000]  What kind of conversation happens there?
[52:58.000 --> 53:18.000]  Well, they're forbidden to talk about it, to tell anybody about it, but there's something that permeates in the air around bar associations that causes loose lips that sink ships or that sink litigation.
[53:18.000 --> 53:28.000]  They'll go to lawyers they know and gripe and rail in righteous indignation about it when they're supposed to keep quiet.
[53:28.000 --> 53:36.000]  Everybody will find out about it and nobody will admit how they know.
[53:36.000 --> 53:46.000]  So they're going to get multiple bar grievances for not filing this change of attorney.
[53:46.000 --> 53:57.000]  Everything they do, you have a lawyer show up that claims to represent the opposing party, but he hasn't filed a notice of representation with the court.
[53:57.000 --> 53:59.000]  That gets a bar card.
[53:59.000 --> 54:01.000]  I'm in a bar grievance.
[54:01.000 --> 54:06.000]  Anything you have to complain about, bar grievance for it.
[54:06.000 --> 54:07.000]  Yeah.
[54:07.000 --> 54:23.000]  I'm in Victoria County on a case and the head of this law firm was sitting behind a new lawyer they gave the pro se petition or two.
[54:23.000 --> 54:31.000]  I sued a county judge and he gives us this young lawyer because I'm a pro se and I don't know what I'm doing.
[54:31.000 --> 54:43.000]  And he opened his mouth, he butted into the proceedings and gave me sage advice about disqualifying judges.
[54:43.000 --> 54:45.000]  It was wrong.
[54:45.000 --> 54:51.000]  So I bar grieved the young lawyer for not correcting his boss.
[54:51.000 --> 54:59.000]  And then I looked on their law firm and they had three lawyers with this last name.
[54:59.000 --> 55:06.000]  And I looked them over and it was Papa Bear, Mama Bear, and Baby Bear.
[55:06.000 --> 55:10.000]  So who was that guy that interfered in my case?
[55:10.000 --> 55:13.000]  Surely it's not Papa Bear.
[55:13.000 --> 55:15.000]  He's been around too long.
[55:15.000 --> 55:19.000]  He knows how inappropriate that would be.
[55:19.000 --> 55:24.000]  So it must have been Baby Bear.
[55:24.000 --> 55:29.000]  Mama Bear, these days you don't know what people are doing.
[55:29.000 --> 55:33.000]  So this was a guy on the phone where he looked like a guy.
[55:33.000 --> 55:36.000]  That's what I'm saying.
[55:36.000 --> 55:39.000]  She might need one too because maybe she's not really a she.
[55:39.000 --> 55:43.000]  What I wanted to do is get both of them.
[55:43.000 --> 55:53.000]  I bar grieved this lawyer and I bar grieved the head lawyer's son and bar grieved both of them for what the father did.
[55:53.000 --> 55:59.000]  So I'm trying to create a little internal dissension.
[55:59.000 --> 56:04.000]  Is that the son that just started like in June?
[56:04.000 --> 56:07.000]  I don't know how long he's been around.
[56:07.000 --> 56:09.000]  He's not terribly young.
[56:09.000 --> 56:11.000]  He's probably been around 10 years or so.
[56:11.000 --> 56:16.000]  Long enough to get comfortable and didn't have me bar grieving him into the Stone Age.
[56:16.000 --> 56:19.000]  They're going to get apoplexy.
[56:19.000 --> 56:33.000]  Just to clarify, when the bar association finishes their investigation and they send you a letter saying X, Y, and Z, we don't respond to that, right?
[56:33.000 --> 56:34.000]  No.
[56:34.000 --> 56:36.000]  Well, you can.
[56:36.000 --> 56:39.000]  You can object to it, but it won't go anywhere.
[56:39.000 --> 56:40.000]  It won't do any good.
[56:40.000 --> 56:41.000]  I've tried.
[56:41.000 --> 56:43.000]  It doesn't make any difference.
[56:43.000 --> 56:48.000]  Fine bar grievances is like bouncing rocks off lily pads.
[56:48.000 --> 56:49.000]  Okay.
[56:49.000 --> 56:53.000]  It doesn't make any difference what you do.
[56:53.000 --> 57:00.000]  They're going to trash them, but their insurance carrier is not.
[57:00.000 --> 57:04.000]  So when we write grievances, we don't care about the bar.
[57:04.000 --> 57:10.000]  We care about the insurance carrier, and if we do it from that perspective, they'll figure it out.
[57:10.000 --> 57:16.000]  Yeah, go through and highlight all your rules where it says anything about fraud or waste or abuse.
[57:16.000 --> 57:21.000]  Those are the ones to pull out and try to hit those first if you can, you know, about what they...
[57:21.000 --> 57:27.000]  You know, because usually you look at what they did wrong, and it lines up with like 11 different rules just for one afternoon.
[57:27.000 --> 57:38.000]  And so to this and this, and look for the ones that say fraud, waste, or abuse, and prioritize those.
[57:38.000 --> 57:46.000]  Yeah, and it's just for annoyance, you know the bar is going to get your grievance and throw it in the trash.
[57:46.000 --> 57:47.000]  Right.
[57:47.000 --> 57:51.000]  But the insurance carrier is not.
[57:51.000 --> 57:53.000]  Everyone's in a blue moon.
[57:53.000 --> 58:00.000]  The review committee has to put some names on their chart and say, yeah, we deemed this person, we deemed that, we did this disciplinary action or the other.
[58:00.000 --> 58:02.000]  They have to be worth something.
[58:02.000 --> 58:05.000]  They can't just say, we didn't discipline anybody this year.
[58:05.000 --> 58:08.000]  There'll be a few that get hit the lottery.
[58:08.000 --> 58:10.000]  Who wants to play Russian roulette?
[58:10.000 --> 58:11.000]  Yeah.
[58:11.000 --> 58:16.000]  I'll say thank you now, guys, and let you get someone else after the break.
[58:16.000 --> 58:17.000]  Okay.
[58:17.000 --> 58:18.000]  Thank you, Jason.
[58:18.000 --> 58:20.000]  This is Randy Kelton.
[58:20.000 --> 58:22.000]  Thank you.
[58:22.000 --> 58:23.000]  Okay.
[58:23.000 --> 58:24.000]  Thank you, Jason.
[58:24.000 --> 58:25.000]  Okay.
[58:25.000 --> 58:28.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue de la Radio.
[58:28.000 --> 58:34.000]  And this is Randy Kelton going to the outro with 20 seconds left.
[58:34.000 --> 58:36.000]  I have a slot on the board.
[58:36.000 --> 58:39.000]  A slot on the board for 20 seconds?
[58:39.000 --> 58:41.000]  You can tell people the phone number to fill it.
[58:41.000 --> 58:43.000]  Oh, that's a good idea.
[58:43.000 --> 58:47.000]  512-646-1984.
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[01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:17.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:22.000]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:27.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:32.000]  So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging onto.
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[01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.000]  Imagine your mom and dad are getting ready for bed.
[01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.000]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there.
[01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.000]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:01.000]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed reminds me what the Third Amendment was designed to prevent.
[01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:07.000]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers, a common demand in the days of our founding fathers.
[01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.000]  Third party, Third Amendment? Get it?
[01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:13.000]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging,
[01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:17.000]  tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
[01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:22.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.000]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:39.000]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.000]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:47.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:49.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:53.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:57.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.000]  So protect your rights.
[01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:03.000]  Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself.
[01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:05.000]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:22.000]  Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, a magnifying glass, or a pair of x-ray goggles.
[01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:28.000]  That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from unreasonable search and seizure.
[01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.000]  Fourth Amendment, four eyes staring at you, get it?
[01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:35.000]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of security.
[01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:40.000]  Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing.
[01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:44.000]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause,
[01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.000]  I say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:50.000]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights
[01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.000]  and use their googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
[01:02:54.000 --> 01:03:06.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:29.000]  I will laugh till my father's out, till he returns.
[01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:37.000]  I will laugh till my mother's out, till he has to be with his friends and with dogs.
[01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:51.000]  I will laugh till my concern comes out, till I realize my father's out, till I can speak.
[01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:55.000]  I will laugh till my father's out.
[01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:02.000]  I will guard these walls and fences, till he comes to take his place.
[01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  I will laugh till my father's out.
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  Like a chicken, I'll be like a soldier, father and son.
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.000]  Okay, we are back.
[01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio on this, the night, day of September, 2022.
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.000]  You got it.
[01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:34.000]  I was just talking on the break about how my wife had me take a antihistamine,
[01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:38.000]  and it stopped a lot of my throat issues.
[01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:45.000]  And a newborn said that, then I had a throat issue for crying out loud.
[01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.000]  Okay.
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:49.000]  How about that?
[01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:57.000]  Okay, now we're ready to take our most hyperbolic caller in the universe.
[01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.000]  Hello, John.
[01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  Am I hyperbolic? Does that mean I'm overweight?
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:09.000]  What do you have for us today?
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:14.000]  Well, with your help, I sued Discover for harassment,
[01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:20.000]  because they were calling me five, six, and seven calls a day from Discover Card
[01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  over a three-month period, and some days it was like almost one call per hour.
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.000]  Now, that's a bit much.
[01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  So I sued them, and with your help, oh, plus two to four calls on Saturday,
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.000]  and two to four calls on Sunday, seven days a week.
[01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:37.000]  I did win the case.
[01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.000]  Well, there wasn't any case.
[01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.000]  They didn't let it go to court.
[01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:44.000]  It wasn't – I don't think it was arbitration.
[01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.000]  I forget what they called it.
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.000]  Mediation?
[01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.000]  Mediation, that's it.
[01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.000]  I can never remember that word.
[01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:56.000]  See, I'm medical, not legal.
[01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.000]  Anyway, mediation, that's right.
[01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:04.000]  So June 1st, they cut me a nice big check as an award in response to my lawsuit.
[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.000]  But now I'm sad and lonely so far.
[01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  Nobody's calling you.
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.000]  Oh, life's a bummer.
[01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:17.000]  There's no letters to me in the mail or –
[01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.000]  Oh.
[01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.000]  That it's been given to a debt collector yet.
[01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:22.000]  Now, June –
[01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:32.000]  Okay, everybody who's listening, hyperbolic John, send him some hate mail.
[01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:37.000]  That's good.
[01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.000]  You got a good size check.
[01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:41.000]  Wonderful.
[01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:46.000]  So there are no letters to me in the mail telling me it's been given to the debt collector yet.
[01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  Now, here's my question.
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:55.000]  In the year 2022 – see that, I even know the year – what's the first move the debt collector will do?
[01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:00.000]  A phone call or a letter to try to announce the collection?
[01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.000]  A letter.
[01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.000]  They always do a letter.
[01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  They still do that these days.
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:07.000]  That's what he used to do.
[01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.000]  I just got one yesterday.
[01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.000]  Well, you want to put that up.
[01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.000]  I'll be glad to help you.
[01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.000]  This one is wonderful.
[01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:20.000]  I went to this – I got a ticket in Rome, Texas, and I went down there and filed some motions.
[01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:23.000]  And they're not used to that, so it screwed things up for them.
[01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:27.000]  And their computer reported that I failed to appear.
[01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:31.000]  And reported it to the DPS.
[01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:36.000]  So it just happened my license had expired, and I went down to get it renewed.
[01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:41.000]  And they wouldn't do it because I had this failure to appear in Rome, Texas.
[01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.000]  Well, I've got a court date for that.
[01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:46.000]  We're still in court with that.
[01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:55.000]  So I filed criminal charges against the clerk, and now I'm going to bar-grieve the lawyers.
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  But this is – Brett, I got a letter from lawyers over Combi, and they were out of Sulphur Springs.
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  Same company sent me a letter for Rome, Texas, about 70 or 100 miles away.
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  How about that?
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  So they must do a lot of collections for municipalities.
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:29.000]  But I could not find a website for them, so I can't find out who their attorneys are.
[01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  I'll have to go to the bar and see if I can locate it.
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  Yeah, just tell me. I'll look it up.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:47.000]  I got a whole bunch of stuff for them.
[01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:51.000]  Assignment of collection. That's a different one.
[01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.000]  I got a couple people trying to collect.
[01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.000]  Okay, go ahead, John, while I'm looking.
[01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:03.000]  One of my relatives keeps getting a letter from a place in Iowa trying to collect on a traffic ticket
[01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.000]  or a red light ticket, whatever it was, from 15 years ago.
[01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:14.000]  Good luck. Anyway, collection agency.
[01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:17.000]  Anyway, so that's the first move, a letter.
[01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  They won't try to call, will they?
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:27.000]  No, they'll send most. I've got the toll commission trying to collect from me.
[01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:33.000]  I got trapped on a toll road once where the entrance wasn't marked,
[01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:38.000]  and I thought it was a road that would lead me around the block, but it trapped me on a toll road.
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:44.000]  And that one toll is now up to $500 with penalties.
[01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:51.000]  I'm not panicking, guys. It's insane.
[01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.000]  The company's Graves is something or other.
[01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:59.000]  I remember Graves because Dr. Graves, but I'll find that letter.
[01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  But they must be doing a lot of collection, so I'm going to get a whole bunch of people bargaining.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:11.000]  They're trying to collect two things from me. Both of them are invalid.
[01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  And this appears to be a scam going on with these municipal courts.
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:23.000]  They want to get a failure to appear against you.
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  Well, this is a scam, and it's been such a problem that the legislature has now forbidden
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:37.000]  municipal courts from arresting people for a failure to appear.
[01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  They can't arrest you anymore.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.000]  So it's a big problem.
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:48.000]  So I'm going to find out who all the lawyers are in this law firm
[01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:53.000]  and take every letter I got from them and send them a bar grievance,
[01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:59.000]  send a bar grievance in for each letter to every member of the firm.
[01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.000]  Let's see if we can shut them down.
[01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:05.000]  Okay, so you won, huh?
[01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.000]  So where's our commission?
[01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  Well, I probably should give you at least 10 percent.
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:18.000]  You just need to put enough into Randy's Beer Fund to buy a six-pack of beer.
[01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:20.000]  Randy's Beer Fund.
[01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  Oh, considering you mentioned bar grievances, question.
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.000]  I've always wanted to ask you this for the last five years.
[01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  Finally, I get a chance.
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:36.000]  The bar grievance committee will throw the grievance for the attorneys in the trash.
[01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:42.000]  But what's to stop the insurance carrier from throwing the bar grievance right in the trash?
[01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:47.000]  Oh, you haven't been listening.
[01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  You have an opposite desire.
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:55.000]  You have an agent for this insurance company,
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:05.000]  and it is his job to collect as much money as possible from his client and avoid any claims.
[01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  So they file a bar grievance.
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.000]  The state bar throws it in the trash.
[01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  The agent for the insurance company will double the malpractice insurance.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:24.000]  One bar grievance, your first year of practice, they cancel immediately.
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.000]  Two bar grievances, any one year of practice, they cancel.
[01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.000]  Three, they'll cancel your law firm's malpractice insurance.
[01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.000]  Valid, invalid, they don't care.
[01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:37.000]  This agent does not want any claims against him.
[01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:41.000]  So that makes it a good thing.
[01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  Third, Russell Mortland bankruptcy, San Marcos.
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:52.000]  Halfway through the bankruptcy, the law firm disappeared.
[01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  Another one showed up.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:58.000]  At the end of the bankruptcy, the first lawyer came back and complained to the court
[01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:02.000]  that Mr. Mortland bargrieved me three times,
[01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  and the next year our law firm had to shut down and reopen
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:15.000]  because we couldn't get malpractice insurance.
[01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:21.000]  And your problem is, I asked Russell,
[01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  did you bargrieve him for saying that to the court?
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:31.000]  Because if you bargrieve them, they can't say anything to anybody about it.
[01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:32.000]  This works.
[01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:37.000]  Brett is the all-time pro at hammering law firms.
[01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:42.000]  And he can tell you about one law firm after the other hitting the road
[01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:45.000]  when you start hammering them.
[01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.000]  Right.
[01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:49.000]  It's kind of fun if you think about it because you're standing up for justice.
[01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:51.000]  You're standing up for what's right.
[01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:57.000]  And so you don't feel bad about the fact that everybody's trying to act...
[01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:01.000]  You're ruining some poor lawyer's career.
[01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:07.000]  Well, you know, and that's what I would feel bad about if I were in the wrong.
[01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:08.000]  You know what I mean?
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:17.000]  I'm wielding the sword, and I don't feel bad about it because that's injustice.
[01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:22.000]  That's exactly the last thing we should do is feel bad about doing the right thing.
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:25.000]  Yes, it's going to harm someone.
[01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:31.000]  Yeah, we get these young attorneys just out of law school, and nobody ever told them
[01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:35.000]  all the problems they're going to have in the real world practice.
[01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:39.000]  And you don't want to ruin this person's career.
[01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:43.000]  That's what's got us in this mess.
[01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:50.000]  Kinsman does this illegal crapola, and he's young, he's impetuous.
[01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.000]  We don't want to ruin his career.
[01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:59.000]  It takes me back to The Prince in Romeo and Juliet.
[01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:07.000]  And I, for winking at your discords, have lost a brace of Kinsman.
[01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  We have winked at their improper actions, and we've created this horrible mess.
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:21.000]  It's time for us to stop having sympathy for the bad guys.
[01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:22.000]  Oh, that's absolutely right.
[01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:28.000]  That's why the Democrats are making such grounds in this country because the Republicans
[01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:33.000]  are sitting back on their rear end doing nothing about it because they're jingling
[01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:35.000]  30 pieces of silver in their pockets.
[01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  They're in on it, too.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  Yeah, but the Republicans have been paying five and six dollars a gallon for gas.
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  Yeah, but for them, they can't.
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:51.000]  Oh, no, it's worse than that.
[01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:55.000]  The government came in and shut down their businesses.
[01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  This COVID thing, it shut down their businesses.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:03.000]  And I said then, that was a bad mistake.
[01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:07.000]  You should have went to them and asked them to voluntarily act.
[01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:16.000]  But by shutting them down, now you've built yourself some major, major enemies.
[01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:21.000]  Now you've woken up the sleeping right.
[01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:26.000]  And I've been looking forward to the November elections for quite a while.
[01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  Well, that is if we can get an honest one.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  Well, we've got a lot of people.
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  Training these people in how to handle these officials when they won't let you see what they're doing.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  Call 911.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.000]  Don't give them fair warning.
[01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  Don't negotiate with them.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:47.000]  Just call 911 and try to get them arrested.
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:49.000]  We got a lot of people out there that's fixing to do that.
[01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  Hang on.
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
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[01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:11.000]  And we're talking to John in New York and you won the case.
[01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:16.000]  What did you win on?
[01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:24.000]  The fact that they called me 35 times a week for three months.
[01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:31.000]  The judge, I'm sure the judge would have thought that was a bit much if it had made it to court.
[01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  So they mediated and paid you off before you got to court.
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:39.000]  So they knew they were going to lose.
[01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:40.000]  Oh, they figured that they would lose.
[01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:41.000]  I'm sure.
[01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:42.000]  Yes.
[01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:43.000]  Now I haven't heard.
[01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  Now that was June 1st.
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.000]  They cut me the check dated June 1st.
[01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  So now it's July, August, September, three months later, and no debt collectors yet.
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:57.000]  Did they retire the debt?
[01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.000]  Do you think they retired it?
[01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  That should have been part of your deal.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:12.000]  Did you check to see if they did a pull on your credit?
[01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:13.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:15.000]  A hard pull or soft pull or both?
[01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.000]  A hard pull.
[01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:19.000]  Okay.
[01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:20.000]  I will.
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:21.000]  I will.
[01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:29.000]  If they did a hard pull on your credit after they started collection, that is a felony in Texas.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:36.000]  Now according to the law firm that I used, they said that that doesn't hold water here.
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.000]  Is that possible?
[01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:41.000]  This is, I think this is federal.
[01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:46.000]  Oh, that's right. Well, the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act is a federal thing.
[01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  Yeah.
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  So if the lawyer tells you that's the way it is, well, I'm sure he's probably telling you the truth, right?
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.000]  It must be true.
[01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  He probably saw it on the Internet.
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  By gosh, if a lawyer said it, especially if he said it on the Internet, it must be true.
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  Exactly.
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  Well, probably not.
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:08.000]  And he's bound to have a nice tie to go with it.
[01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  That makes it more believable, right?
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:15.000]  You know the government is closely monitoring everything on the Internet.
[01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.000]  So everything you see there has to be true.
[01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.000]  Oh, yeah.
[01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  If you don't see it get fact-checked, then that's how you know.
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:25.000]  The COVID vaccines are safe and effective.
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.000]  Didn't you know?
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:32.000]  The COVID vaccines are safe and effective.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:33.000]  Okay.
[01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:35.000]  I am really pleased that you won this one.
[01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:39.000]  I know you've been complaining about these guys for a long time.
[01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  You may want to get another credit card so you can get more people calling you.
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  Yeah, sure.
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:47.000]  Okay.
[01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:48.000]  I got two more quick questions.
[01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.000]  Here we go.
[01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  When I voted in the 2020 election, the voting machine spit my ballot back out, and I had,
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  they told me to reverse it and put it in again.
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  Does that sound like Democrat, Democrat, Democrat election fraud monkey shines to you?
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  No.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:13.000]  Brett?
[01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:14.000]  Okay.
[01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  What would be?
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.000]  Does that sound like fraud?
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:18.000]  Brett, do you want to?
[01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:19.000]  I don't know.
[01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  I don't see any reason for that to be a good thing or a bad thing.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  It looks to me like just that would be technically identical to having two different machines
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  and one does the printing and then one across the room does the receptacle and the counting.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  It's just...
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:45.000]  When I voted in the primary this past month, it didn't spit my ballot out, but it spit
[01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.000]  it out when Trump was on the ballot.
[01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:53.000]  And I just wonder if that was fraud, if that was part of...
[01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:57.000]  Like maybe they were setting up to say that everything had to go through a paper process
[01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:00.000]  so that they could slide all their papers in?
[01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.000]  Well, here's what happened.
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:09.000]  You put the little dot with that special pen they give you and the dot marks whoever you
[01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:15.000]  want, then put it in the machine and it grabs it in.
[01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:21.000]  It takes it in like a photocopier would, but it spit it back out and they told me I had
[01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:26.000]  to re-put it into the machine, re-enter it into the machine.
[01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:32.000]  And I'm just wondering if that is anything to do with voter fraud, but not voter, but
[01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  election fraud.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.000]  I wouldn't think so.
[01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  To me, that just looks like the same thing as having the two separate devices, except
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:46.000]  you know how when offices started having a combination machine that could do scanning
[01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  on the top and printing out the side.
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:55.000]  It's two different functions and they just stacked it into one piece of equipment with
[01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  one case around it.
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:59.000]  It doesn't necessarily mean there's any fraud going on.
[01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  Okay.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  Then when I had limited health insurance, I asked the local hospital here in the business
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:14.000]  office to please write off part of my doctor's copay bill, and they were kind enough to do
[01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:15.000]  that.
[01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  Are hospitals still required to write off a certain percentage of hospital bills if
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:25.000]  you're having a hard time according to their charter?
[01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:30.000]  I don't know.
[01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  Okay.
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:33.000]  Well, I thought I would ask.
[01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.000]  Okay, though.
[01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:41.000]  But that was basically it with the Discover thing.
[01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.000]  And you think that they wrote it off and they're not going to bother me with that?
[01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  I'm so disappointed.
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  I wanted the debt collector to call me.
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:50.000]  Yeah, you can be fairly sure they wrote it off.
[01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.000]  They're not going to be calling you anymore.
[01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:56.000]  Oh, because of the lawsuit?
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:57.000]  Yeah.
[01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:02.000]  Well, they said that they weren't going to cancel the debt.
[01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.000]  They were not going to cancel the debt.
[01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:12.000]  So in other words, it's probably on my credit file.
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:17.000]  Did you get enough in a settlement to pay off the debt?
[01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:19.000]  Oh, no.
[01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  It was like one-fifth.
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:25.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  Do you think that I should follow that up maybe and see if, because I quote one, I didn't
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:44.000]  win in court, but because I quote one, that they really should have canceled the debt.
[01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:48.000]  I guess the law firm was okay with that.
[01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:50.000]  The law firm went back to pay.
[01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.000]  Yeah, the law firm wouldn't have cared.
[01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:57.000]  The original debtor might care, but the law firm's not.
[01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  No, no, no.
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:04.000]  What I mean is my law firm, the one that I hired, they didn't seem to have a problem
[01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:09.000]  with that, that Discover would not completely write off the debt.
[01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:14.000]  Not write it off, but remove it from my credit file and all that.
[01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  Yeah.
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.000]  I think their response was they were not going to do that.
[01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  In other words, I still owe it, technically.
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:24.000]  Technically.
[01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  They're just not going to try to collect it.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.000]  Anything I can do about that?
[01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:34.000]  I wouldn't do anything if it's not harming you.
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  Well, it's still a blemish on my record.
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:42.000]  It sounds like their way of saving face.
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:44.000]  Yeah, I guess.
[01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:48.000]  I've never not paid a debt in my entire life.
[01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:53.000]  In fact, I was in a bank one, and they were selling equity loans.
[01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:58.000]  They asked each depositor, they had commercials on the radio and in the newspaper,
[01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:01.000]  they'd ask each depositor, would you like a home equity loan?
[01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:06.000]  You can use it to build a patio or paint your living room or whatever.
[01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:09.000]  I said, no, I don't earn enough money.
[01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:15.000]  I don't think they'd be good for, they wouldn't consider me good for the debt.
[01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  Well, the loan officer in the bank who did the mortgages,
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  she overheard me say that, and she yells out in front of everybody at the bank.
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:26.000]  She goes, you must be joking.
[01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:29.000]  I've seen your credit report.
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  You've got a stellar credit report.
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:37.000]  And I looked it up after, I was in the 800.
[01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:41.000]  And then I got into identity theft, and it all changed.
[01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:43.000]  Now I can't buy shoelaces.
[01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:51.000]  So I used to spend money like everyone else, and now I've got to be very careful.
[01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:53.000]  Well, stay after these guys.
[01:28:53.000 --> 01:29:00.000]  Maybe you'll get another one, and you'll be able to mediate a higher return.
[01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  Now what do you mean, get after which guy?
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.000]  Get a better deal.
[01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.000]  Get somebody else to come after you.
[01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:11.000]  Oh, you mean another debt, another creditor?
[01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:13.000]  Yeah.
[01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:19.000]  Well, I've never welched on a debt in my life, and my credit file showed it.
[01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:21.000]  I was in the 800.
[01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:26.000]  And this was the only time that I got sick and tired of being part of the working poor.
[01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:30.000]  Americans don't realize how, well, now they're beginning to.
[01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  But before, they didn't.
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:33.000]  They got credit card.
[01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  Remember that song, A Dollar Down and A Dollar A Week?
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:39.000]  Yes.
[01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:41.000]  Well, okay, I guess that's it for now.
[01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  Yeah, we need to move on.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.000]  Thank you, John.
[01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  Thank you.
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  We've got two more callers and two more segments.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of Law Radio.
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[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:39.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  and we're going to E.J. in California.
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:47.000]  E.J., what have you been up to this week?
[01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:49.000]  Oh, wait a minute.
[01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:51.000]  I can hear you better if I unmute you.
[01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:54.000]  Try that again.
[01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:56.000]  Hi, Randy. Hi, Brett.
[01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.000]  Hey.
[01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.000]  Hi.
[01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  Okay, so I'm in the same situation with Randy.
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:11.000]  We're in the same boat with, well, with the retired judge.
[01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:19.000]  So I tried to qualify the second judge that came to hear the case,
[01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:21.000]  and I e-filed.
[01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:22.000]  Can you hear me okay?
[01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:25.000]  I'm on a earphone, earplugs.
[01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:26.000]  Yeah, you're good.
[01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:27.000]  I hear you great.
[01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:32.000]  So the day after the summary judgment on Wednesday,
[01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:37.000]  she denied the motion for summary judgment.
[01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:42.000]  I tried to orally disqualify her.
[01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:48.000]  Of course, you know, she said no because you didn't,
[01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:53.000]  I think it was like 10 days you're supposed to put a motion in.
[01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:58.000]  So this time I put a motion in five days.
[01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.000]  It's in the code.
[01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:10.000]  Then I get a response back from the clerk saying that the judge is not on the bench.
[01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:18.000]  I called the courthouse, the clerk, this morning.
[01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  It is as far as I know the judge is still here and will be hearing the cases next week.
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  And so I went to the courthouse to re-file my motion to disqualify.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:38.000]  I got pushback, and Randy, you're exactly right.
[01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:41.000]  We learned so much from you guys.
[01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:47.000]  You know, without you, I would have just walked away from the clerk.
[01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:55.000]  I said, no, I'll go ahead and just stamp it received because I have to ask my,
[01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:57.000]  what do you call it, the supervisor.
[01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  He's not here.
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:09.000]  I said, listen, I have a motion date because these days you can just go online
[01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:11.000]  and get the motion date.
[01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:12.000]  I have a motion date.
[01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:19.000]  I'd like to follow this as a motion then, and he was hesitant.
[01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:21.000]  He had to go to the supervisor and came back.
[01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:23.000]  He said, okay, we'll file it.
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:24.000]  See, there you go.
[01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  First, they wouldn't do it.
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:27.000]  They would not.
[01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  They'll just say, oh, no, we need to check with the supervisor.
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:35.000]  They're not here right now.
[01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:41.000]  Yeah, can't, can't, blah, blah, hands tied, so sorry, yada, yada.
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:43.000]  And you're exactly right.
[01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  You're exactly, you have to stand, you have to re-ask them, please.
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:53.000]  I want to, I want to file it as a motion.
[01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:54.000]  And he did it.
[01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.000]  He said, okay, I'll do it.
[01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:59.000]  He gave me a lot of pushback, but I was ready.
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:05.000]  I have, I discovered that I'm getting more, what do you call it?
[01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:11.000]  Confident?
[01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:14.000]  What's that?
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:16.000]  Yeah, confident.
[01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:18.000]  Yeah, confident.
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:19.000]  Yes, thank you, Randy.
[01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:21.000]  I was going to call 911.
[01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:22.000]  They can tell.
[01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:23.000]  They can tell.
[01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:25.000]  You know, it's not visible.
[01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:26.000]  You don't see it.
[01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:27.000]  You can feel it.
[01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:29.000]  I'm sure they felt it.
[01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:31.000]  I was, oh, I'm calling 911.
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:33.000]  I'm going to have it all documented.
[01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:41.000]  You know, I'm going to even put it in my written mandamus because that's what I'm doing right now after the faulty decision against me.
[01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  So I thank you so much.
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:51.000]  That just shows me, you know, that don't trust anyone in the courthouse.
[01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:55.000]  That's ultimately true, unfortunately.
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  During my criminal case, I trusted the people and it got me.
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:01.000]  It got me really good.
[01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:13.000]  But anyway, secondly, the guy from Colorado, I'm kind of in the same boat with him regarding trying to figure out, you know,
[01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:21.000]  what damages I can put in because the second defendant, which is the security guard, he hasn't responded yet.
[01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:25.000]  It's like, what, 35th day.
[01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:27.000]  I can default.
[01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:31.000]  You need to move for default judgment.
[01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:35.000]  This is how default judgment works.
[01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:44.000]  You go down to the clerk and you show the clerk that this person was served on this day and I haven't received a response.
[01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:49.000]  The clerk will go back and count the days.
[01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:57.000]  I'm not sure what it is in California, but in most states it's the Monday after the 20th day.
[01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  If they haven't filed within that span, then the clerk can sign your default judgment.
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.000]  It's a done deal.
[01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:13.000]  Well, didn't you have, E.J., wasn't there something a little bit sketchy about the lawyers were trying to,
[01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:19.000]  maybe they missed the deadline to answer on one of them and so then they were trying to combine these cases together
[01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:28.000]  so they could say that they didn't miss the deadline, something weird like that?
[01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  Oh, they were saying that it's a totally different, I move for summary judgment.
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:52.000]  So I did miss some things like California rules have a lot of little things that you need to show the judge under summary judgment.
[01:39:52.000 --> 01:40:00.000]  They are correct that I missed that, but I have a motion for reconsideration that I filed
[01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:11.000]  when they put out the tentative ruling and also I'm putting out, I know it's too late, but I'm going to do it anyway,
[01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:14.000]  a motion to amend my summary judgment.
[01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  Randy, would that be too late?
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  The decision has already been made.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:21.000]  They denied.
[01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:25.000]  Yeah, you can't, oh wait.
[01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  Already denied?
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  Already denied.
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  Yeah, I don't think you can amend it after it's already been ruled on.
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  You could ask for that decision to be reconsidered.
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:46.000]  Okay, great.
[01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:48.000]  Yeah, I'm just going to do it anyway.
[01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:52.000]  Keep filing away, keep, you know, making sure.
[01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:54.000]  Yeah, I would file amended.
[01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:59.000]  Let's look at the rules.
[01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:01.000]  The rules?
[01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:06.000]  Yes, I can do the, since I put the motion for reconsideration during the tentative ruling,
[01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:16.000]  since they continued, I'm sure, I don't want to, I'll look at the, I have to read the rules, sorry.
[01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:22.000]  Yeah.
[01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  I'm losing my place.
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:27.000]  The rules for reconsideration?
[01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:34.000]  Did you get findings affecting conclusions from the court on your dismissal?
[01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:43.000]  No, I need to request that through, and I'm working on that this weekend,
[01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:55.000]  SSCL and file it by Tuesday before the status, I have a status conference on Wednesday.
[01:41:55.000 --> 01:42:01.000]  Wednesday is the day to default the guard, the second defendant.
[01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:05.000]  I want to see how much more lives he wants to put up front, really.
[01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:16.000]  But anyway, I have a writ of mandamus, can I do both at the same time, SSCL, and do the writ of mandamus?
[01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.000]  I would think so.
[01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.000]  I can't be certain, but I would think so.
[01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:24.000]  I'm not sure you would want to, though.
[01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:33.000]  It seems like what you want to tell the higher court in your petition for writ of mandamus
[01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:43.000]  is going to be influenced by what result you get or don't get when you request findings affecting conclusions of law.
[01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:51.000]  You need to take the output of that and use it as input to your mandamus petition.
[01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:53.000]  Got it. I got it.
[01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:57.000]  Even if that output is nothing, maybe they're refusing to answer you.
[01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  That is a bullet point in your reaching out to the higher court.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:06.000]  Okay, sounds good.
[01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:10.000]  I see kind of like the timing of what I'm supposed to do.
[01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:18.000]  And I was going to ask, since I followed that motion and I was timely,
[01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:24.000]  today was the fifth day because I'm getting another court reporter for the status conference.
[01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:31.000]  I believe in the early stages it's very important to document everything.
[01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:43.000]  So at the status conference of this judge that I want to recuse, if she's there, what do I need to do?
[01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:47.000]  Have you filed a motion to recuse?
[01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:49.000]  Yes, I filed it today.
[01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:54.000]  Okay, then you just ask for an abatement until the motion can be heard.
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[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:25.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Lulavlaw Radio, and we're on our last segment.
[01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:29.000]  Are we done with you, E.J.?
[01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.000]  Yes, we're done.
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[01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:36.000]  Thank you, E.J.
[01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:39.000]  Okay, now we're going to go to Steve in Texas.
[01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:42.000]  Steve, what do you have for us today?
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:47.000]  I got a couple of questions on your retired judge issue.
[01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:53.000]  Where does a retired official get the authority to continue the exercise of the powers of that office?
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:57.000]  In Rule 18A.
[01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:58.000]  Okay.
[01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:01.000]  So, the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure.
[01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.000]  Now, that's a rule.
[01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:05.000]  It's not really a law.
[01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  So, it's still questionable.
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  They can assign another judge, but these guys aren't judges.
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:15.000]  They just used to be judges.
[01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:16.000]  Well, that's what I'm saying.
[01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  And once he retires, does that negate his oath of office and his bond, anything else he had to do to take that office?
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:26.000]  Exactly.
[01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:28.000]  That's what I was asking.
[01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:34.000]  The oath and repulse the bond and reissue the bribery statement that's required?
[01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:39.000]  I'm glad you brought that up, because I've got one of these coming up.
[01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:45.000]  And I'm going to hammer this judge, but I want to do it kind of as a bank shot.
[01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:50.000]  The first thing I'm going to ask him is who lied to me about his position.
[01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:52.000]  Mm-hmm.
[01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:56.000]  But Brett and I talked about that at the beginning of the show.
[01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:01.000]  I really haven't figured out how to make that material.
[01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:05.000]  But I'm working on that.
[01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  Well, if he's supposed to have an oath on file and there isn't one on file, isn't he impersonating a public official?
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:14.000]  That's iffy.
[01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:22.000]  Well, in some of these, they will go off, they'll leave their judicial office, they'll go off and start up a law firm.
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:29.000]  But judges are not allowed to have the law firm, depends on which judge seat he sits in.
[01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:36.000]  That may be prohibited for him to be practicing law, have a law.
[01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:40.000]  Oh, definitely they're forbidden to practice law.
[01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:50.000]  A convicted judge, a magistrate, a justice of the peace can, but a county or district judge cannot practice law.
[01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:55.000]  That would be absolutely inappropriate once they're judged.
[01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:57.000]  So they generally relinquish their bar card.
[01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:59.000]  They stop paying their bar dues.
[01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:05.000]  Yeah, but then when they leave the judicial office, some of them will go and put out a shingle.
[01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  Yeah.
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:09.000]  So I wonder if that helps to slap him around.
[01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  Well, I don't know.
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:13.000]  What are they doing trying to have both?
[01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:18.000]  They say retired judges, and I assume that they're completely retired.
[01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:23.000]  And that might not be a proper assumption.
[01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:28.000]  I think I'll run this guy's name and see if I find a bar card on him.
[01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:41.000]  The last one, Jeff Johnson, Joel Johnson, he is the one they appointed for the 363rd, no, I'm sorry, for Victoria County.
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:47.000]  I don't remember what the, it's the County Court of Law II.
[01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  He could be the first one in history that gets bar green for not correcting the judge himself.
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:51:02.000]  And the judge gets a judicial misconduct for violating the canon that says that he has to report an attorney himself.
[01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:09.000]  Yeah, and lost my place.
[01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:18.000]  I had a comment about the judge.
[01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:23.000]  Your comment earlier about him possibly having a bar card.
[01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:31.000]  If he's coming, if he signed up to be an appointed judge, no, he might not have been the sharpest knife in the door,
[01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:38.000]  and he might not be fully retired, and he might be practicing law, I'll check on that.
[01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:47.000]  But I still have that problem with them repudiating their contracts because they all have to be under contract.
[01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:56.000]  And I'd like to see the contract that the appointed judge is under.
[01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:06.000]  Well, could you possibly do a 3903 on him for potential pressure because he's planning to do what he's supposed to?
[01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:11.000]  No, I can't do it yet because he hasn't done anything.
[01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:19.000]  And I want to try to keep him from doing anything, but I want to get his attention.
[01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:25.000]  Maybe sending him some criminal complaints.
[01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:28.000]  I could disqualify him that way because they will not issue warrants.
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:35.000]  I could send him criminal complaints against JP.
[01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:38.000]  I'll figure that out.
[01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  But yeah, that is a good point.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  And I just wondered, you know, because...
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:51.000]  Yeah, do they still have, is the oath of office still valid once they have retired?
[01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  Yeah, well, aren't they retake the oath that they're reelected?
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:02.000]  No, no, what the courts have said that once, they only have to file an oath once,
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:09.000]  and it binds them as long as they're continuously in office.
[01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:15.000]  If they leave office for a while and come back, they have to reissue the oath.
[01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:18.000]  Okay.
[01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:22.000]  I just know that most of the times officials don't do what they're supposed to,
[01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:24.000]  and I was hoping maybe that would fall into that category.
[01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:30.000]  Oh, that is a scurrilous, slanderous accusation.
[01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:36.000]  Are you actually saying that public officials don't follow law?
[01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:39.000]  Oh, I'm so ashamed of myself.
[01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:42.000]  I thought you would be.
[01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:45.000]  Okay, do you have anything else for us?
[01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.000]  We've got one more caller.
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:49.000]  I'd like to get to Ted.
[01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.000]  All right, well, I'll let you get to him.
[01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:52.000]  Have a good night.
[01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:54.000]  Thank you, Steve.
[01:53:54.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  Ted, you called earlier, you were frustrated. Talk to us.
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:08.000]  Well, I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.
[01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:16.000]  I, with all the experience that I have, allowed this judge to waste almost my entire day
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:23.000]  serving on him a 170.1 disqualification for cause.
[01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:27.000]  I went to his courtroom, as you're supposed to do.
[01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:32.000]  This is the one document you file in the courtroom with the judge's clerk.
[01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:41.000]  And the clerk was filling in this week, but she's a clerk from another courtroom.
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:46.000]  And so I got it to her, and the judge was on the bench.
[01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.000]  They hadn't started the session yet.
[01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:56.000]  And ultimately, from back and forth, and she brings it to me and tells me that you file it downstairs.
[01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:59.000]  And I said, well, not this.
[01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  This gets filed here.
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:03.000]  She went back to her desk and talking to the judge.
[01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:05.000]  He's up on the bench.
[01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:10.000]  Ultimately, she tells me to go file it downstairs.
[01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  And the judge, I heard the judge tell her to tell me to go file it downstairs.
[01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:21.000]  So I went downstairs to the clerk's office, and I filed it or went to file it.
[01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:23.000]  They stamped it and everything.
[01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:29.000]  And then when the clerk entered it into the computer, that's where they got to fill in all the boxes on the computer.
[01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:33.000]  And that's when it come up, whoa, this is a 170.1.
[01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:34.000]  You have to do it in the courtroom.
[01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:40.000]  I said, I told you I just came from the courtroom, and the judge instructed me to file this here.
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:43.000]  Now, that's worked in the past, but since today, it didn't.
[01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:53.000]  And it went on from there, but I ended up trying to get a process server to go back with me.
[01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:57.000]  My guy was out of town, so a friend of mine got there.
[01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:01.000]  I knew he had an afternoon session, and he's gone for the next two weeks.
[01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:05.000]  My trial date is September 26.
[01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:07.000]  Now, this guy's a good old boy.
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:11.000]  He's a 6'4", kind of a country farmer type of judge.
[01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:14.000]  I kind of like the guy, other than the fact that he's a Democrat.
[01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  But I went back, and my friend couldn't get there.
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:21.000]  He's on the freeway trying to get there.
[01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.000]  And the court session ended.
[01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:24.000]  The 130 session ended.
[01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:26.000]  It's now 3 p.m.
[01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:30.000]  And they're going to close the door, so I slipped in, and he's still on the bench.
[01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:33.000]  And he says, I'm not going to talk to you.
[01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:34.000]  You have a lawyer.
[01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:36.000]  You can't file this.
[01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:41.000]  And I said, well, and I didn't cross the bar, but there's a podium inside the bar.
[01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:46.000]  And I stuck it on the podium, and I said, nah, you're served.
[01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:49.000]  And I turned around and walked out.
[01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  My friend comes in.
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:54.000]  As I'm in the hallway, I guess we missed crossing the...
[01:56:54.000 --> 01:57:00.000]  He goes in there, and I'm telling you, they got some kind of black magic.
[01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:05.000]  He goes in there, and I told him, just go in there, touch the paper,
[01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:07.000]  and say, judge, you're served.
[01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  And he calls me and tells me he's walking out with my papers.
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:15.000]  I said, you did what?
[01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:19.000]  I said, get them papers back in there.
[01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:23.000]  So I don't know how he got back in the courtroom, put them back on the podium,
[01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:26.000]  and said, no, judge, you're served.
[01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:30.000]  That ended up taking all day today.
[01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:34.000]  And again, I've got a lot of experience with this stuff.
[01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:39.000]  And so if they can do this to me, they can do it to anybody.
[01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:44.000]  And I'm sure he's going to claim he's not served.
[01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:47.000]  Again, I just...
[01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  Let him explain that to the Court of Appeals.
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.000]  Did you have it recorded?
[01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:00.000]  I found out that none of these judges have a bond.
[01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:02.000]  None of them.
[01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  That's the other revelation today.
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:09.000]  Does the state carry a bond for them?
[01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:14.000]  No, the county's trying to say they're self-insured.
[01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:21.000]  See, this goes back to this co-mingling between the county and the court.
[01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:24.000]  That's probably why you're having so much problem,
[01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:26.000]  because you went after them for that.
[01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:28.000]  You're getting into their cash cow.
[01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:32.000]  I am sorry, Ted, we have run out of time.
[01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:37.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio,
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