[00:00.000 --> 00:05.800]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.800 --> 00:09.460]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.460 --> 00:10.880]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.880 --> 00:14.860]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.860 --> 00:16.960]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.960 --> 00:18.560]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.560 --> 00:22.160]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.160 --> 00:26.940]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.940 --> 00:32.120]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.120 --> 00:33.120]  Privacy.
[00:33.120 --> 00:34.560]  It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.800 --> 00:46.600]  Spar.
[00:46.600 --> 00:47.600]  It's what fighters do.
[00:47.600 --> 00:50.760]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.760 --> 00:54.560]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.560 --> 01:01.560]  Spar with an extra P. S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.560 --> 01:03.080]  and R for religion.
[01:03.080 --> 01:07.080]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.080 --> 01:08.520]  assembly, and religion.
[01:08.520 --> 01:10.480]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.480 --> 01:14.600]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.600 --> 01:18.120]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.120 --> 01:20.800]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.800 --> 01:31.080]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.080 --> 01:34.720]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.720 --> 01:38.160]  They guarantee you the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.160 --> 01:39.640]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.640 --> 01:43.560]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.560 --> 01:46.680]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.680 --> 01:48.280]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.280 --> 01:51.880]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.880 --> 01:56.640]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.640 --> 02:01.680]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.680 --> 02:04.420]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.840 --> 02:20.180]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.180 --> 02:22.240]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.240 --> 02:26.760]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.760 --> 02:30.600]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.600 --> 02:31.600]  Get it?
[02:31.600 --> 02:33.920]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:33.920 --> 02:37.520]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.520 --> 02:43.280]  when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
[02:43.280 --> 02:47.840]  conduct, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[02:47.840 --> 02:50.560]  historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.560 --> 02:52.440]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.440 --> 03:16.040]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:23.040 --> 03:52.360]  the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary conduct,
[03:52.360 --> 04:11.840]  one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which
[04:11.840 --> 04:39.360]  actually appears remote in America, but which actually appears remote in America, but which
[04:39.360 --> 04:55.680]  actually appears remote in America, but which actually appears remote in America, but which
[04:55.680 --> 05:02.960]  and he may be able to join us here in a little bit we'll find out. In the meantime
[05:02.960 --> 05:07.760]  I'm gonna go ahead and open up the phone lines if anybody would like to call in
[05:07.760 --> 05:18.560]  with their questions, their comments. The call-in number is 512-646-1984
[05:18.560 --> 05:29.360]  512-646-1984 and to start off I'll just pull the subject out of the hopper that
[05:29.360 --> 05:38.000]  seems like it's been a popular one in some recent polls and that is discovery.
[05:38.000 --> 05:45.280]  When we are in a court setting and we want to get some evidence so that we
[05:45.280 --> 05:53.920]  can win our case the way the primary way to get evidence is discovery. Discovery
[05:53.920 --> 06:01.840]  has some different tools available to you. My favorite one let's just
[06:01.840 --> 06:05.920]  start with my favorite which is admissions. Admissions is really cool
[06:05.920 --> 06:13.080]  because you make statements of fact similar to an affidavit when you're
[06:13.080 --> 06:18.600]  writing up an affidavit and you make little succinct bullet points to say
[06:18.600 --> 06:47.760]  what's the truth and you make statements of fact and you're
[06:47.760 --> 06:52.400]  asking the other side the other party to admit that what you're saying is true
[06:52.400 --> 06:59.640]  and you know they don't want to admit what you're saying is true instead they
[06:59.640 --> 07:05.840]  they want these issues that are about to destroy their case to end up in an
[07:05.840 --> 07:09.800]  argument and then maybe they can win the argument later but you've carefully
[07:09.800 --> 07:17.640]  crafted a statement that they are gonna have to say admit or deny or they can
[07:17.640 --> 07:23.480]  write in their sort of an honest treatment of it to say well I admit this
[07:23.480 --> 07:28.760]  part of it not that part or they can actually object I never give them a
[07:28.760 --> 07:36.560]  checkbox for that but they can object so if you are looking at a discovery
[07:36.560 --> 07:41.360]  request for admissions and man you just think that the question is not right they
[07:41.360 --> 07:44.640]  shouldn't be asking me this you don't have to answer it you can say I object
[07:44.640 --> 07:52.480]  to the question but anyway the cool thing about admissions is that you're
[07:52.480 --> 07:58.640]  basically getting somebody else to agree to what you can't say yourself in an
[07:58.640 --> 08:04.120]  affidavit you know you've got one way to put evidence on the record is you have
[08:04.120 --> 08:09.960]  some personal firsthand knowledge and so you write it up yourself and you throw
[08:09.960 --> 08:15.680]  it into the court case not sitting there in the record waiting for you to do
[08:15.680 --> 08:21.280]  something with it like move the court to do whatever dismiss or sanction the
[08:21.280 --> 08:26.480]  lawyer or do whatever based on some fact that you put in your affidavit but what
[08:26.480 --> 08:32.680]  if you don't have personal knowledge you know it's true but you can't say
[08:32.680 --> 08:37.000]  yourself under penalty of perjury you need to get the other party to say it so
[08:37.000 --> 08:44.680]  you do that with admissions so right off the bat when you're starting out with
[08:44.680 --> 08:49.840]  discovery admissions is a really big tool but don't use them all up you've got
[08:49.840 --> 08:54.520]  a limited number of statements that you're allowed to ask the other side so
[08:54.520 --> 09:01.320]  you don't want to use them all right at the beginning and instead you want to
[09:01.320 --> 09:08.800]  save a few at least a few so that later on after you've been through your other
[09:08.800 --> 09:15.840]  discovery tools then you will still have later on the ability to make a
[09:15.840 --> 09:23.200]  statement based on everything that you have found to that point and just
[09:23.200 --> 09:29.280]  surgically target what's necessary to cut the legs out from under your
[09:29.280 --> 09:34.760]  opponent's case making them admit something and let me tell you one other
[09:34.760 --> 09:41.280]  cool thing about admissions I mentioned this before but admissions are as soon
[09:41.280 --> 09:45.600]  as you put them in there you give the other side your discovery request for
[09:45.600 --> 09:53.000]  admissions now a time clock starts to pitch I don't know if everybody's clock
[09:53.000 --> 09:57.120]  is the same you'll have to look at your local rules to see but in Texas this
[09:57.120 --> 10:06.000]  this is a 30-day clock so if I ask the other party to admit these half a dozen
[10:06.000 --> 10:16.520]  things and then 30 days goes by and they haven't answered me thing now those six
[10:16.520 --> 10:22.880]  items are deemed admitted whether they wanted to admit it or not maybe they
[10:22.880 --> 10:27.480]  plan to object maybe they didn't like the wording of it doesn't matter 30 days
[10:27.480 --> 10:35.960]  is up those issues those six statements that you posed in in asking them to
[10:35.960 --> 10:41.200]  admit it now they are considered to be admitted and they can't argue otherwise
[10:41.200 --> 10:47.320]  in court now there's a there's a little escape clause that says unless they can
[10:47.320 --> 10:52.200]  show good cause for why they whatever they didn't handle it right they get to
[10:52.200 --> 10:55.800]  be able to show good cause oh I was in the hospital and in a coma and I
[10:55.800 --> 10:59.920]  couldn't answer okay fine go ahead and make your admissions answer the
[10:59.920 --> 11:03.880]  admissions now but for the most part people aren't going to be able to argue
[11:03.880 --> 11:09.440]  these after that 30 days is up which is really cool because you hit them first
[11:09.440 --> 11:12.840]  with some admissions some really good ones that destroy their case if they
[11:12.840 --> 11:18.960]  admit it then you move on to some of these other tools you have tools like
[11:18.960 --> 11:27.840]  discovery request for disclosure or request for production you want them to
[11:27.840 --> 11:32.800]  produce sort of like records request you want them to produce all the trading
[11:32.800 --> 11:37.080]  manuals that were given to all the factory floor workers and you know
[11:37.080 --> 11:43.120]  normally you can't ask for things like that if it's outside of a court case
[11:43.120 --> 11:47.680]  it's not a governmental body they don't have to show you anything but now you're
[11:47.680 --> 11:51.560]  in a court case with them doesn't matter if they're a governmental body or not
[11:51.560 --> 11:56.600]  they have to show you whatever records you ask them to produce or whatever you
[11:56.600 --> 12:01.600]  ask them to disclose like how many mergers did you oversee in the last
[12:01.600 --> 12:10.000]  whatever and they have to tell you they've got to open that up and the only
[12:10.000 --> 12:16.800]  thing that that is bounded by is if you can show that you're asking this
[12:16.800 --> 12:22.240]  question because it's reasonably calculated to produce admissible
[12:22.240 --> 12:28.320]  evidence in your case so you can't ask them questions like you talked to the
[12:28.320 --> 12:35.520]  CEO and ask them do you prefer your current wife or your ex-wife that's
[12:35.520 --> 12:41.920]  absolutely irrelevant you don't have any way that that's going to be part of
[12:41.920 --> 12:49.040]  reasonably calculated to produce admissible evidence but you can ask
[12:49.040 --> 12:53.400]  anything that you can get in reasonably into that category so it's pretty wide
[12:53.400 --> 12:57.960]  open use all these other tools so discovery you've got disclosure you've
[12:57.960 --> 13:04.840]  got production you could subpoena somebody and and ask them to bring
[13:04.840 --> 13:13.160]  something with them do you just take them that's deep you see ES TEC you in
[13:13.160 --> 13:17.440]  means you're asking them to bring it with you and whatever it is that they
[13:17.440 --> 13:22.960]  they need to bring along for your examination or you can depose them which
[13:22.960 --> 13:30.400]  is very much like like them being on a witness stand in court except this is
[13:30.400 --> 13:35.200]  well before court you're just trying to feel things out see where the evidence
[13:35.200 --> 13:40.080]  is and then whatever piece of it you want to use you can and if there's
[13:40.080 --> 13:44.480]  nothing really comes helpful out of that then you've deposed them you have up to
[13:44.480 --> 13:51.040]  a maximum number of hours you depose them and then when you get to court you
[13:51.040 --> 13:56.320]  just bring in the one little piece that's helpful and leave the rest of it
[13:56.320 --> 14:00.280]  out you don't have to spend hours in court going to grilling somebody on the
[14:00.280 --> 14:03.920]  witness stand because you've already grilled them in deposition so that's
[14:03.920 --> 14:10.000]  kind of cool and once you you know found out the weak points of everything then
[14:10.000 --> 14:15.960]  you oh I didn't tell you about interrogatories interrogatories is
[14:15.960 --> 14:20.800]  probably my second favorite out of all the different kinds of discovery tools
[14:20.800 --> 14:28.080]  and it's when you ask them to answer a question you're asking the other party
[14:28.080 --> 14:32.160]  and if there are multiple parties you know the cross claims and there are
[14:32.160 --> 14:38.080]  multiple defendants and whatever see all of your limits roll up into well
[14:38.080 --> 14:43.160]  actually read your rules some limits roll up some limits are per person and
[14:43.160 --> 14:49.360]  some are per party so look at your rules but interrogatories is when you're asking
[14:49.360 --> 14:58.360]  the other party to answer a question so it can be an open-ended kind of thing
[14:58.360 --> 15:02.560]  instead of with admissions you're making a statement it's sort of like yes no
[15:02.560 --> 15:07.240]  true false you're asking them to admit it or deny it with interrogatories you're
[15:07.240 --> 15:13.160]  asking them to answer your question so it can be more open but anyway you get
[15:13.160 --> 15:18.200]  to the end of these and you've you've used up whatever you needed to from
[15:18.200 --> 15:24.080]  these various tools and you've got a few admissions left in your count like let's
[15:24.080 --> 15:30.560]  say you had 15 total and you used up six of them now you have nine left that you
[15:30.560 --> 15:37.040]  are able to use at the end to really just tie up the case if there's anything
[15:37.040 --> 15:43.400]  that was left a little bit fuzzy or a little bit maybe some of their
[15:43.400 --> 15:48.120]  interrogatories you can see that they're dancing around something that they don't
[15:48.120 --> 15:52.560]  quite want to admit or some of their documents lead you to believe there was
[15:52.560 --> 15:59.360]  forgery going on you figure this out or you put some clues and pieces together
[15:59.360 --> 16:06.760]  along the way and then at the end you can say a statement that says this
[16:06.760 --> 16:13.200]  person forged that person's signature and now you're you didn't know that at
[16:13.200 --> 16:20.280]  first but now at the end you get a point a chance to ask them to admit that so
[16:20.280 --> 16:28.960]  there you have it very quick crash course on discovery possibilities we're
[16:28.960 --> 16:33.560]  going to go ahead to our sponsors when we come back we do have a couple of
[16:33.560 --> 16:38.880]  colors on the board already and anybody else that wants to call in the number is
[16:38.880 --> 16:48.840]  five one two six four six nineteen eighty four we have ready am I here you
[16:48.840 --> 16:52.640]  are just time to jump off the cliff go for it
[16:52.640 --> 16:58.520]  octoliva we'll be right back
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[19:25.880 --> 19:27.880]  the question
[19:27.880 --> 19:29.880]  wonder what I
[19:29.880 --> 19:31.880]  don't have the answer
[19:31.880 --> 19:33.880]  open up my
[19:33.880 --> 19:35.880]  eyes
[19:35.880 --> 19:37.880]  the question
[19:37.880 --> 19:39.880]  let love begin
[19:39.880 --> 19:41.880]  and they don't have the answer
[19:41.880 --> 19:43.880]  let's hope and slip this lie
[19:43.880 --> 19:45.880]  I don't want issues to see
[19:45.880 --> 19:47.880]  Lord how the war went in
[19:47.880 --> 19:49.880]  it's easy
[19:49.880 --> 19:51.880]  they are too political and
[19:51.880 --> 19:53.880]  they get mad and angry
[19:53.880 --> 19:55.880]  but they must stand up and fight
[19:55.880 --> 19:57.880]  and fight for their freedom and
[19:57.880 --> 19:59.880]  be free
[19:59.880 --> 20:01.880]  wonder if they'll love slavery and get
[20:01.880 --> 20:03.880]  hanged out for the government's
[20:03.880 --> 20:05.880]  love again
[20:05.880 --> 20:07.880]  the question
[20:07.880 --> 20:09.880]  wonder what I
[20:09.880 --> 20:11.880]  don't have the answer
[20:11.880 --> 20:13.880]  let love begin
[20:13.880 --> 20:15.880]  and they don't have the answer
[20:15.880 --> 20:17.880]  the question
[20:17.880 --> 20:19.880]  let love begin
[20:19.880 --> 20:21.880]  and they don't have the answer
[20:21.880 --> 20:23.880]  let love begin
[20:23.880 --> 20:25.880]  here they'll tear
[20:25.880 --> 20:27.880]  you they'll tear me down
[20:27.880 --> 20:29.880]  here or here
[20:29.880 --> 20:31.880]  here and here
[20:31.880 --> 20:33.880]  they will tear you down
[20:33.880 --> 20:35.880]  they will tear up the Constitution
[20:35.880 --> 20:37.880]  they will rip it in three
[20:37.880 --> 20:39.880]  they don't give a damn about it
[20:39.880 --> 20:39.880]  you don't see how this country
[20:39.880 --> 20:41.880]  how they're now
[20:41.880 --> 20:43.880]  you'll see
[20:43.880 --> 20:45.880]  like we're blind and we crazy
[20:45.880 --> 20:47.880]  they are leading with
[20:47.880 --> 20:49.880]  destruction
[20:49.880 --> 20:53.880]  And they point the gun, they point the country, ah look at me
[20:53.880 --> 20:58.880]  Look at me, they tell you, they tell me Lord they tell me to come to you
[20:58.880 --> 21:03.880]  Look at me, they tell you, they tell me Lord they tell me to come to you
[21:03.880 --> 21:14.880]  We ask the question, we don't have the answer
[21:14.880 --> 21:22.880]  We ask the question. Look what we get. We don't have the answers.
[21:22.880 --> 21:28.880]  We ask the question, make the button-button steam them look funny, like when they crisp up clean.
[21:28.880 --> 21:33.880]  We ask the question, why do we need to we hold nuclear weapon in our country?
[21:33.880 --> 21:38.880]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Bret Fountain, Rue La Blah Radio.
[21:38.880 --> 21:43.880]  And we're going to what looks like a new caller.
[21:43.880 --> 21:49.880]  If you're in the 201 area code, talk to me.
[21:49.880 --> 21:52.880]  Hello, everyone. How are you?
[21:52.880 --> 21:57.880]  Oh, we are good. Give me a first name and a state.
[21:57.880 --> 22:00.880]  Keisha and Georgia.
[22:00.880 --> 22:01.880]  In Georgia.
[22:01.880 --> 22:04.880]  In Georgia. All right.
[22:04.880 --> 22:05.880]  All right.
[22:05.880 --> 22:08.880]  Okay, what do you have for us today?
[22:08.880 --> 22:17.880]  So I was looking for some assistance with enforcing an arbitration.
[22:17.880 --> 22:27.880]  I went through a few things and I wanted to, I had some bullet points because I do respect everyone's time and I didn't want to ramble on.
[22:27.880 --> 22:35.880]  So I do have some bullet points that I wanted to address and then I could kind of tell you where I'm going with this, if that's okay?
[22:35.880 --> 22:37.880]  Yes. Go ahead.
[22:37.880 --> 22:45.880]  Okay. So on about 2016 through 2017, my home, I had a homeowners association.
[22:45.880 --> 23:01.880]  They started to find me for having ice cream trucks in my driveway and other petty offenses like, I guess they said I didn't cut the grass good enough or I didn't edge or they started finding me, long story short.
[23:01.880 --> 23:06.880]  First it started off with $25 a day, then it turned to $50 a day.
[23:06.880 --> 23:16.880]  Next week, about the end of 2017, I was sent the notice that I was being sued from the homeowners association and they took me to court.
[23:16.880 --> 23:20.880]  So the fees had mounted up to $35,000.
[23:20.880 --> 23:21.880]  Okay.
[23:21.880 --> 23:44.880]  And then 2018, 2017, the end of 2017 into 2018, I was fighting with the lawyer, the attorneys in court in reference to just trying to, he started basically coming after me for the fees for the homeowners association.
[23:44.880 --> 23:45.880]  Okay.
[23:45.880 --> 23:54.880]  On about June 2018, I was arrested because the court stated that I missed a court date and I had never been notified.
[23:54.880 --> 23:57.880]  Hold on, hold on.
[23:57.880 --> 24:02.880]  How did we get to court from a homeowners association? Did they sue you?
[24:02.880 --> 24:04.880]  Yeah, they sued me.
[24:04.880 --> 24:06.880]  Did I miss a bullet point?
[24:06.880 --> 24:16.880]  So about the end of 2017, I was sent a notice that I was being sued for homeowners association fees.
[24:16.880 --> 24:17.880]  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[24:17.880 --> 24:21.880]  You were sent a notice?
[24:21.880 --> 24:22.880]  I was.
[24:22.880 --> 24:26.880]  Were you not served by a process server?
[24:26.880 --> 24:33.880]  What they did do was they served the wrong name to my 15, my then 15 year old son.
[24:33.880 --> 24:36.880]  It was somebody else's name, so it wasn't my name, so I never opened it.
[24:36.880 --> 24:39.880]  I didn't even know what it was.
[24:39.880 --> 24:48.880]  Okay, so you can file an action to dismiss all this for lack of proper service.
[24:48.880 --> 24:49.880]  Okay.
[24:49.880 --> 24:50.880]  Okay, go ahead.
[24:50.880 --> 24:51.880]  Okay.
[24:51.880 --> 24:52.880]  All right.
[24:52.880 --> 24:53.880]  We'll get back to that.
[24:53.880 --> 24:55.880]  Okay, yes.
[24:55.880 --> 25:05.880]  It was a lot that transpired after that, and so I was arrested about June of 2018 because the court stated that I missed the court date.
[25:05.880 --> 25:09.880]  They stated that I was arrested for contempt of court.
[25:09.880 --> 25:10.880]  Now, wait a minute.
[25:10.880 --> 25:12.880]  There's a problem here.
[25:12.880 --> 25:20.880]  They served, the action was commenced against your 15 year old son?
[25:20.880 --> 25:25.880]  They served, it was for me, I guess, I'm guessing, but they had another name.
[25:25.880 --> 25:26.880]  It wasn't my name.
[25:26.880 --> 25:28.880]  It was a whole other name.
[25:28.880 --> 25:32.880]  It wasn't my name at all, and so I never opened it.
[25:32.880 --> 25:33.880]  I never knew what it was.
[25:33.880 --> 25:34.880]  I didn't even know what that was.
[25:34.880 --> 25:39.880]  I just know my son said someone handed him something, and I'm like, why did you open the door?
[25:39.880 --> 25:49.880]  And he's like, I thought it was for you, and you know, sometime later I realized that they attempted to serve me.
[25:49.880 --> 25:51.880]  And it wasn't me.
[25:51.880 --> 25:52.880]  They used another name.
[25:52.880 --> 25:55.880]  It was another name on the form.
[25:55.880 --> 26:01.880]  Okay, that should get a motion to dismiss for lack of proper service.
[26:01.880 --> 26:04.880]  Yeah, insufficient service of process.
[26:04.880 --> 26:07.880]  Oh, it gets a little more gruesome.
[26:07.880 --> 26:14.880]  And so they arrested me on, I was at another court date, and they told me that they had a warrant for my arrest.
[26:14.880 --> 26:15.880]  And I'm like, who, me?
[26:15.880 --> 26:16.880]  And they're like, yes.
[26:16.880 --> 26:18.880]  And I'm like, for what?
[26:18.880 --> 26:19.880]  For what?
[26:19.880 --> 26:21.880]  Contempt the court.
[26:21.880 --> 26:23.880]  And I'm like, contempt the court?
[26:23.880 --> 26:24.880]  What did I do?
[26:24.880 --> 26:30.880]  Because I'm thinking contempt the court is something maybe I defied a judge or something, which that never happened.
[26:30.880 --> 26:41.880]  And so when I get to the jail, they told me, well, I found out a few days later that they arrested me for not filling out interrogatories correctly.
[26:41.880 --> 26:44.880]  I didn't know I was held for six months.
[26:44.880 --> 26:46.880]  What?
[26:46.880 --> 26:51.880]  For not filling out interrogatories?
[26:51.880 --> 26:52.880]  Correctly.
[26:52.880 --> 26:57.880]  And that's arrestable, incarcerate somebody for that?
[26:57.880 --> 27:00.880]  Yeah, right. Six months.
[27:00.880 --> 27:04.880]  Wait, wait, there's got to be something else going on here.
[27:04.880 --> 27:08.880]  Were you held, how did they originally arrest you?
[27:08.880 --> 27:11.880]  Did they originally arrest you for contempt of court?
[27:11.880 --> 27:16.880]  They arrested me originally for contempt of court, and then I'm like, contempt of court for what?
[27:16.880 --> 27:19.880]  And they were like, they didn't know.
[27:19.880 --> 27:20.880]  And it took me a few days.
[27:20.880 --> 27:23.880]  I was arrested a few days before I found out what it was for.
[27:23.880 --> 27:30.880]  And they said it was for not filling out interrogatories correctly because they wanted to know my financial information.
[27:30.880 --> 27:32.880]  Boy, they had to work hard at that.
[27:32.880 --> 27:34.880]  Now, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[27:34.880 --> 27:35.880]  How do we get there?
[27:35.880 --> 27:43.880]  Were you aware that you were in a court proceeding at this time?
[27:43.880 --> 27:53.880]  At this time, when they said I didn't fill out interrogatories, I knew that I had filled some out and I sent it back and filed it on record.
[27:53.880 --> 27:54.880]  Oh, hold on.
[27:54.880 --> 27:55.880]  Okay.
[27:55.880 --> 27:58.880]  Then we're missing some information here.
[27:58.880 --> 28:05.880]  When did you enter into a civil litigation?
[28:05.880 --> 28:14.880]  This was all from, this was all sent in from the homeowners association, not me telling the lawyer that I wasn't going to pay him the fees for the homeowners association.
[28:14.880 --> 28:21.880]  I didn't owe him anything because he was trying to charge me and I told him, you know, I'm not the one you want to charge for that.
[28:21.880 --> 28:32.880]  He was trying to come after me for his, instead of the $35,000 they said I owed, he was trying to come after me for his attorney fees for the work he did for the homeowners association.
[28:32.880 --> 28:43.880]  Well, how do we get there from the part where you thought it was your son, your son was the one that was being accused of something and then how did it leap to?
[28:43.880 --> 28:45.880]  No, no, no, my son wasn't being accused.
[28:45.880 --> 28:46.880]  You're talking to a lawyer.
[28:46.880 --> 28:47.880]  Him.
[28:47.880 --> 28:48.880]  Sorry?
[28:48.880 --> 28:51.880]  They just served him instead of me.
[28:51.880 --> 28:53.880]  And it was the wrong name.
[28:53.880 --> 28:55.880]  Right.
[28:55.880 --> 28:57.880]  How is it the wrong name?
[28:57.880 --> 29:01.880]  What name was on the, was it a subpoena?
[29:01.880 --> 29:03.880]  It was like, it was a whole nother name.
[29:03.880 --> 29:05.880]  It wasn't Keisha at all.
[29:05.880 --> 29:08.880]  It wasn't Keisha at all.
[29:08.880 --> 29:10.880]  It was a whole nother name.
[29:10.880 --> 29:18.880]  So, but that was some time, I had gotten arrested some time later, that was way later.
[29:18.880 --> 29:24.880]  And so, after I had gotten arrested and I...
[29:24.880 --> 29:30.880]  Keisha, can I just ask you a really quick little question about that name?
[29:30.880 --> 29:39.880]  You're not talking about, well probably not, but can I just double check, you're not talking about all caps or it has a colon and dash and things like that, right?
[29:39.880 --> 29:40.880]  No, no.
[29:40.880 --> 29:42.880]  Okay, okay.
[29:42.880 --> 29:45.880]  What name did the subpoena have on it?
[29:45.880 --> 29:46.880]  It was like Melinda.
[29:46.880 --> 29:50.880]  It was like Melinda someone, I forgot the last name, but it was like Melinda.
[29:50.880 --> 29:52.880]  It wasn't my name at all.
[29:52.880 --> 29:54.880]  It wasn't anyone that ever lived with that address name.
[29:54.880 --> 29:55.880]  Okay.
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[33:11.880 --> 33:19.880]  Yes, Mr. Office, I've been taking the law into hand.
[33:19.880 --> 33:23.880]  Won't you follow the law of the land?
[33:23.880 --> 33:25.880]  I don't understand.
[33:25.880 --> 33:31.880]  Your job is to protect and preserve, not beat up these.
[33:31.880 --> 33:34.880]  Not this man!
[33:34.880 --> 33:39.880]  When you're gonna stop abuse, you don't know how it works.
[33:39.880 --> 33:44.880]  When you're gonna stop abuse, you don't know how it works.
[33:44.880 --> 33:50.880]  When you're gonna stop abuse, you don't know how it works.
[33:50.880 --> 33:55.880]  When you're gonna stop abuse, you don't know how it works.
[33:55.880 --> 34:01.880]  So please, Mr. McAuliffe, teach officers not to abuse their power.
[34:01.880 --> 34:03.880]  Send a request to the...
[34:03.880 --> 34:09.880]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, ruleoflawradio, and we're talking to Tisha in Georgia.
[34:09.880 --> 34:13.880]  And Tisha, we have a problem.
[34:13.880 --> 34:23.880]  Have you written...are you familiar with our telegram channels?
[34:23.880 --> 34:28.880]  Oh, let me unmute you. Okay, go ahead.
[34:28.880 --> 34:31.880]  I believe I'm on one of your channels.
[34:31.880 --> 34:39.880]  Okay, have you heard of us talking about a timeline?
[34:39.880 --> 34:40.880]  Okay.
[34:40.880 --> 34:46.880]  No, I just got on. I just signed on maybe a day or two ago for the law society.
[34:46.880 --> 34:47.880]  Okay.
[34:47.880 --> 34:49.880]  You're welcome.
[34:49.880 --> 34:52.880]  You're welcome. First thing we need is a timeline.
[34:52.880 --> 34:58.880]  We need everything that's happened in this case from the beginning to now.
[34:58.880 --> 35:04.880]  No argument, no explanation, just on this day this happened, this day this happened,
[35:04.880 --> 35:07.880]  and start from the beginning and come to now.
[35:07.880 --> 35:11.880]  That'll be the most valuable tool you can have.
[35:11.880 --> 35:15.880]  You're talking to us about what went on.
[35:15.880 --> 35:20.880]  And it is clear to us that you are leaving out a whole bunch of information,
[35:20.880 --> 35:24.880]  and you probably don't realize that you are.
[35:24.880 --> 35:27.880]  You know what all occurred.
[35:27.880 --> 35:33.880]  So there are details that you don't think to give us.
[35:33.880 --> 35:38.880]  It is absolutely unclear how we get from the beginning to where you are,
[35:38.880 --> 35:45.880]  to a arrest on a contempt of court charge.
[35:45.880 --> 35:51.880]  There's not anything in here to get us from one place from the beginning to that place.
[35:51.880 --> 35:54.880]  And how did you get to the point where you're filling out interrogatories
[35:54.880 --> 35:59.880]  and oh my goodness, in trouble for not doing your rights, like jailable trouble?
[35:59.880 --> 36:01.880]  We were in and out of court.
[36:01.880 --> 36:03.880]  I was just trying to hit the main point.
[36:03.880 --> 36:08.880]  So we were in and out of court from 2016 to 2018.
[36:08.880 --> 36:13.880]  We were in and out of court battling with these people in reference to these fees,
[36:13.880 --> 36:16.880]  these unreasonable fees that they're charging me.
[36:16.880 --> 36:22.880]  And so in that timeframe, I guess they got tired of it and they said I missed a court date.
[36:22.880 --> 36:29.880]  So originally they said it was, when I was arrested, they said it was for contempt of court.
[36:29.880 --> 36:34.880]  And then it was for, what is it when you missed a?
[36:34.880 --> 36:36.880]  Failure to appear.
[36:36.880 --> 36:37.880]  Failure to appear.
[36:37.880 --> 36:41.880]  And I'm like, okay, and I had to get down to the bottom of what they were saying,
[36:41.880 --> 36:43.880]  what court date they said I missed.
[36:43.880 --> 36:48.880]  And then as I asked more questions to find out what court date it was for and what it was for,
[36:48.880 --> 36:52.880]  they said I was in contempt of court for not filling out interrogatories correctly.
[36:52.880 --> 36:54.880]  So in that timeframe over the time...
[36:54.880 --> 36:55.880]  Hold on.
[36:55.880 --> 37:01.880]  Do you have an order from the judge directing you in how to fill out interrogatories?
[37:01.880 --> 37:03.880]  No.
[37:03.880 --> 37:05.880]  No.
[37:05.880 --> 37:07.880]  I asked for that when I was requested.
[37:07.880 --> 37:12.880]  I asked them why they were sending interrogatories to my home when I was in jail.
[37:12.880 --> 37:15.880]  And they wanted me to fill out interrogatories correctly.
[37:15.880 --> 37:20.880]  So I asked them why didn't he, you never told me what I did wrong and how to fill them out.
[37:20.880 --> 37:21.880]  And he...
[37:21.880 --> 37:23.880]  Yeah.
[37:23.880 --> 37:26.880]  Well, okay.
[37:26.880 --> 37:31.880]  The issue of how to fill them out, that would have to be addressed by the court.
[37:31.880 --> 37:41.880]  There's a lot of information that has to be here for us to get from the beginning to where you're at.
[37:41.880 --> 37:43.880]  We really need a timeline.
[37:43.880 --> 37:46.880]  We really can't even talk about this until we have a timeline
[37:46.880 --> 37:53.880]  and we have an idea of what all has actually went on.
[37:53.880 --> 37:57.880]  We'll spend a lot of time here digging for details.
[37:57.880 --> 38:02.880]  Pull the docket sheet from the clerk of the court.
[38:02.880 --> 38:07.880]  The docket sheet will list all of the motions and pleadings,
[38:07.880 --> 38:11.880]  all of the hearings that were held and when they were held.
[38:11.880 --> 38:15.880]  It will give a timeline for the court action.
[38:15.880 --> 38:23.880]  And pay attention too if you have, sometimes the other side will somehow change the number.
[38:23.880 --> 38:27.880]  So then you'll have a case number where you did have some stuff filed in originally
[38:27.880 --> 38:32.880]  and then they do a little shuffle and switcheroo.
[38:32.880 --> 38:36.880]  And now they have another new case that does not have your documents in it.
[38:36.880 --> 38:40.880]  So if you're trying to piece things especially over that like two-year period,
[38:40.880 --> 38:46.880]  you get all the case numbers that are involved.
[38:46.880 --> 38:51.880]  Yeah, we can't even talk about this until we get a timeline.
[38:51.880 --> 38:59.880]  The deal is you're looking at this from your perspective inside the litigation.
[38:59.880 --> 39:03.880]  Brett and I, we're outside and we don't have a dog in this hunt.
[39:03.880 --> 39:07.880]  And we will look at this from a different perspective.
[39:07.880 --> 39:12.880]  You'll look at it from the perspective of the things they've done to you.
[39:12.880 --> 39:20.880]  We will look at it from the perspective of the process and rule of law.
[39:20.880 --> 39:27.880]  There are things we're likely to pay close attention to that you didn't even notice.
[39:27.880 --> 39:31.880]  So we need a good timeline first.
[39:31.880 --> 39:37.880]  Once we have that timeline, we're going to go back and say there are problems way back here.
[39:37.880 --> 39:43.880]  To say that you were arrested for not filling out interrogatories correctly,
[39:43.880 --> 39:47.880]  for both Brett and I, that got a holy mackerel.
[39:47.880 --> 39:50.880]  Whoa, wait a minute.
[39:50.880 --> 39:54.880]  It takes a lot to get to that point.
[39:54.880 --> 40:00.880]  I've been doing this a long time and that's the first time I've heard of something like this.
[40:00.880 --> 40:04.880]  Now they can object to interrogatories.
[40:04.880 --> 40:08.880]  You know, they can send you interrogatories and you can send them answers.
[40:08.880 --> 40:10.880]  They don't like it.
[40:10.880 --> 40:11.880]  They can go to the judge.
[40:11.880 --> 40:14.880]  None of that happened.
[40:14.880 --> 40:15.880]  Pardon me?
[40:15.880 --> 40:16.880]  None of that happened.
[40:16.880 --> 40:21.880]  They didn't object to anything that I sent because I filed everything on a record.
[40:21.880 --> 40:23.880]  Okay, this is what we need.
[40:23.880 --> 40:28.880]  We need to know everything that's occurred so we know what did happen, what didn't happen,
[40:28.880 --> 40:34.880]  so we know how to analyze what has gone on.
[40:34.880 --> 40:42.880]  One of the most important things you can do is keep essentially a diary of everything that's gone on in the case.
[40:42.880 --> 40:45.880]  If you don't have one, go back and make one.
[40:45.880 --> 40:49.880]  Every time something happened, mark it down, put the date that it happened.
[40:49.880 --> 40:54.880]  You don't have to go into details, just on this day this thing happened, on this day this thing happened.
[40:54.880 --> 40:58.880]  And then you write out your whole timeline.
[40:58.880 --> 41:00.880]  You put down everything you can think of.
[41:00.880 --> 41:04.880]  Let it set a few days and go back and look at it again.
[41:04.880 --> 41:10.880]  And then when you look at these dates, it'll act as a memory device.
[41:10.880 --> 41:16.880]  You'll remember things that happened in between and you put those things in.
[41:16.880 --> 41:22.880]  Once you've been over it and you don't find new things to put in there, then give it to us.
[41:22.880 --> 41:26.880]  We're going to look at it and you're going to say, this happened, then this happened,
[41:26.880 --> 41:32.880]  and we're going to say, whoa, wait a minute, you can't get from this point to that point.
[41:32.880 --> 41:35.880]  There had to be stuff in between.
[41:35.880 --> 41:42.880]  And there may not have been anything in between, but if there had to be stuff in between,
[41:42.880 --> 41:45.880]  those are issues you can bring.
[41:45.880 --> 41:53.880]  So we look at it from a whole different perspective and we'll find things you've missed.
[41:53.880 --> 42:00.880]  This is obviously an ongoing and complex litigation issue.
[42:00.880 --> 42:05.880]  It's been ongoing for quite a while, so there's a lot of stuff going on.
[42:05.880 --> 42:15.880]  And I won't try to sugarcoat this with you, making up a timeline will be very difficult.
[42:15.880 --> 42:20.880]  It will be the most difficult thing you do in this whole litigation.
[42:20.880 --> 42:26.880]  It will also be the most important tool you can have in this litigation.
[42:26.880 --> 42:29.880]  Yeah, it becomes a very useful reference for you.
[42:29.880 --> 42:33.880]  And then when you're trying to get anybody else's input on it for help,
[42:33.880 --> 42:36.880]  then oh my goodness, it's so useful to be able to reference that.
[42:36.880 --> 42:40.880]  You're never going to turn it in and give it to a court or anybody,
[42:40.880 --> 42:44.880]  but it's like a skeleton. It's going to be super helpful for you.
[42:44.880 --> 42:51.880]  Yes, and let me offer a convention for naming documents.
[42:51.880 --> 43:00.880]  Take all the documents in your case and change the name of them to your last name,
[43:00.880 --> 43:03.880]  the date in international format.
[43:03.880 --> 43:13.880]  The international format for date is the year-month-day all in numbers.
[43:13.880 --> 43:17.880]  Keep a two-digit month and a two-digit day.
[43:17.880 --> 43:23.880]  So if it's like today, June 2, then you would say 0602.
[43:23.880 --> 43:27.880]  And then briefly what the document is about.
[43:27.880 --> 43:32.880]  When you name them in that convention and drop them into a folder,
[43:32.880 --> 43:37.880]  they will automatically align themselves in chronological order.
[43:37.880 --> 43:41.880]  That will take you a long way toward your timeline.
[43:41.880 --> 43:49.880]  Then you look at those dates and everything that happened in between court filings.
[43:49.880 --> 43:58.880]  You note things that occurred, the date, you put in your last name, date.
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[46:14.880 --> 46:23.880]  If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one? If you could not wait any battle on,
[46:23.880 --> 46:29.880]  would your purpose test be done? Such as standing on a soldier or warrior arselock,
[46:29.880 --> 46:35.880]  scaffolding their keys to peace, all they're taking is a misunderstanding.
[46:35.880 --> 47:03.880]  Okay, Keisha, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we are back and we're talking.
[47:03.880 --> 47:11.880]  Okay, I did that wrong. Brett, why didn't you make sure I didn't screw that up?
[47:11.880 --> 47:14.880]  You forgot to remind me to tell you which day it is.
[47:14.880 --> 47:24.880]  Yeah, I was going to tell you, ask you to remind me to not forget what I always forget to remember not to forget.
[47:24.880 --> 47:30.880]  So, you were so eloquently diving off the cliff and telling Keisha about how to name it.
[47:30.880 --> 47:37.880]  I was going to bring that up. I was going to ignore that.
[47:37.880 --> 47:46.880]  Okay, we're talking about a timeline. When I talk about how to build legal documents,
[47:46.880 --> 47:53.880]  the first thing we always need is a full, complete timeline.
[47:53.880 --> 48:02.880]  Go down this timeline and each time you go down it, you'll tend to remember something that went in between these two things that are listed.
[48:02.880 --> 48:12.880]  I went into court and this was on a bail issue before the bail bond board and I got hammered
[48:12.880 --> 48:21.880]  because I had two pieces out of place and the prosecutor really made me look like a chump.
[48:21.880 --> 48:28.880]  That hurt my feelings. So, I started looking around for a way to keep that from happening again
[48:28.880 --> 48:41.880]  and both sides tend to get into the heat of what's going on and they tend to lose track of when exactly in the process things happen
[48:41.880 --> 48:49.880]  and that can be absolutely fatal. So, we build a timeline first that will never be handed into the court.
[48:49.880 --> 49:00.880]  The court, the only one who will ever see that is you. But everything else you build, every document, every pleading
[49:00.880 --> 49:08.880]  will be built using that timeline as a reference and you'll never get things out of place.
[49:08.880 --> 49:15.880]  So, build a timeline. It is the most difficult thing you'll do because you have to re-experience
[49:15.880 --> 49:21.880]  all the bad crap that happened to you in this whole case in order to build this timeline.
[49:21.880 --> 49:28.880]  But once you've got it, then Brett and I will walk down that timeline and we'll say,
[49:28.880 --> 49:34.880]  okay, this happened here, this happened here, there should have been stuff in between.
[49:34.880 --> 49:40.880]  If there wasn't something in between, this is what you do to address that issue.
[49:40.880 --> 49:48.880]  If you have a lot of it in there, then it'll start to snowball, it'll start to go easier and faster for anything that's left
[49:48.880 --> 49:56.880]  because you'll immediately insert it right in where it belongs and it gets easier as you go on.
[49:56.880 --> 50:06.880]  You might try, if you have a list, I use Excel for these kinds of things and I color code them according to what was it?
[50:06.880 --> 50:13.880]  Was it an appearance at a court? Was it a motion? Was it an objection? Was it from me or the other side?
[50:13.880 --> 50:23.880]  These color codings help to visually see milestones of what happened and when there's an accusation that happens,
[50:23.880 --> 50:30.880]  it helps to have, for me, I'm visual, the color coding helps me out.
[50:30.880 --> 50:43.880]  Like what we were having, the issue we were having with you, is you're telling us those things that stood out to you as important.
[50:43.880 --> 50:47.880]  But you have a different knowledge base than we do.
[50:47.880 --> 50:53.880]  Things that you may not have noticed will jump right out at us.
[50:53.880 --> 51:03.880]  They've arrested you for not filling out an interrogatory correctly and Brett and I are thinking, what?
[51:03.880 --> 51:10.880]  That had to take a lot of stuff before it to get to that point.
[51:10.880 --> 51:14.880]  The court had to have ordered you to fill out these.
[51:14.880 --> 51:18.880]  The other side had to ask for the interrogatories and you refused to give them to them.
[51:18.880 --> 51:21.880]  And then the court had to order you to give them to them.
[51:21.880 --> 51:25.880]  And then when they got them, they had to complain to the court that you didn't fill them out right.
[51:25.880 --> 51:27.880]  And then the court had to say, well, you didn't fill these out right.
[51:27.880 --> 51:29.880]  This is how we want you to fill it out.
[51:29.880 --> 51:35.880]  And then the court, you fill it out and the court didn't like the way you did it.
[51:35.880 --> 51:40.880]  And generally, they'll give you an opportunity to fix it and if you don't, then they'll go to this issue.
[51:40.880 --> 51:43.880]  It takes these steps to get there.
[51:43.880 --> 51:47.880]  Unless you had a really bad attitude with the judge and you were telling the judge, I'm just not going to do it.
[51:47.880 --> 51:49.880]  And then that's when you end up with a...
[51:49.880 --> 51:53.880]  I thought I didn't do it. I filled them out. I filled them out and they...
[51:53.880 --> 51:55.880]  Okay, no, no, we're not asking for those details.
[51:55.880 --> 52:05.880]  What we're seeing is it is clear that in order to get to where you're at, all of these steps had to have been addressed.
[52:05.880 --> 52:08.880]  But we didn't get all those steps.
[52:08.880 --> 52:15.880]  And if those steps didn't occur, then we have all of these claims and issues we can bring against the court.
[52:15.880 --> 52:23.880]  So for everything that's happened, we need this timeline and then we can evaluate how the court handled the issue.
[52:23.880 --> 52:32.880]  If it turns out that you have acted in good faith with the court and the court did this stuff anyway, that's a whole other issue.
[52:32.880 --> 52:34.880]  Cha-ching, cha-ching.
[52:34.880 --> 52:37.880]  Yeah, we'll go after the court itself.
[52:37.880 --> 52:47.880]  Now, I just have a question. As far as looking for documents, a lot of my documents was lost because they forfeit on the home and took everything.
[52:47.880 --> 52:52.880]  Oh, that's not a problem. All those documents were...
[52:52.880 --> 52:58.880]  The documents relative to the foreclosure, the title company will have them.
[52:58.880 --> 53:05.880]  The documents relative to the court, the court clerk will have them so they can be recovered.
[53:05.880 --> 53:09.880]  But we're still very sorry to hear that you had a foreclosure.
[53:09.880 --> 53:10.880]  Yes, thank you.
[53:10.880 --> 53:23.880]  And so for the request, am I asking for a...when I ask for the documents, am I asking for a Freedom Act request or am I asking for...
[53:23.880 --> 53:24.880]  No, no, no, no, no.
[53:24.880 --> 53:30.880]  This is...you can go to the court clerk and pull the file and see everything that's in the file.
[53:30.880 --> 53:38.880]  If something you're looking for is not in the file, as far as the court is concerned, it doesn't exist.
[53:38.880 --> 53:49.880]  If the court has made some kind of determination based on some supposed document and that document's not in the file, then it's a phantom document.
[53:49.880 --> 53:51.880]  It doesn't exist.
[53:51.880 --> 53:54.880]  Has to be before the court.
[53:54.880 --> 54:01.880]  This sounds pedantic, it sounds detailed, and it absolutely is.
[54:01.880 --> 54:04.880]  The way you win these cases is in the details.
[54:04.880 --> 54:11.880]  Did the homeowners association foreclose on your property?
[54:11.880 --> 54:16.880]  They didn't foreclose, the banks did, while I was arrested.
[54:16.880 --> 54:21.880]  In the time frame that I was arrested, they foreclosed while I was in jail.
[54:21.880 --> 54:25.880]  Oh, okay. We need all these details.
[54:25.880 --> 54:28.880]  The six months, oh my goodness.
[54:28.880 --> 54:34.880]  Okay, there's a lot you can do, but we need the timeline first.
[54:34.880 --> 54:39.880]  We have no idea where to go until we have that timeline.
[54:39.880 --> 54:52.880]  Once we have that timeline, the one thing about court cases, no matter what the other side does, there's always something you can do.
[54:52.880 --> 54:56.880]  No matter what they've already done, there are things you can do.
[54:56.880 --> 55:08.880]  If you can show one primary basic error in the foreclosure process, you can hose these guys big time.
[55:08.880 --> 55:13.880]  They're not accustomed to people taking them apart on the details.
[55:13.880 --> 55:19.880]  And in this particular case, going to a foreclosure, you got the right guy.
[55:19.880 --> 55:26.880]  I've helped over 750 people file federal lawsuits on foreclosure issues.
[55:26.880 --> 55:29.880]  I got foreclosure down.
[55:29.880 --> 55:31.880]  Okay.
[55:31.880 --> 55:36.880]  So we can take that on, but first thing we need is a timeline.
[55:36.880 --> 55:38.880]  Okay.
[55:38.880 --> 55:42.880]  Get us a timeline, call us back next week.
[55:42.880 --> 55:43.880]  Okay.
[55:43.880 --> 55:46.880]  But get lots of aspirin, you're going to need them.
[55:46.880 --> 55:47.880]  I know.
[55:47.880 --> 55:54.880]  I've been to the records room and I've tried to, I've grabbed, maybe I was asking for the wrong thing,
[55:54.880 --> 55:59.880]  but I've grabbed cases and I didn't see all the stuff you guys are speaking of.
[55:59.880 --> 56:00.880]  Okay.
[56:00.880 --> 56:04.880]  Get that all together and then call us back next week.
[56:04.880 --> 56:05.880]  Thank you so much.
[56:05.880 --> 56:06.880]  Okay.
[56:06.880 --> 56:12.880]  And I'm being positive and saying next week's a little conservative,
[56:12.880 --> 56:18.880]  that may be a little too soon because that original timeline is pretty tough to produce.
[56:18.880 --> 56:23.880]  So if you think it's extremely hard, okay, I get it.
[56:23.880 --> 56:28.880]  Yes, you can expect it to be extremely hard, so don't be surprised.
[56:28.880 --> 56:29.880]  Okay.
[56:29.880 --> 56:31.880]  I'm going to work on that.
[56:31.880 --> 56:32.880]  Okay.
[56:32.880 --> 56:33.880]  Thank you, Keisha.
[56:33.880 --> 56:35.880]  Okay.
[56:35.880 --> 56:42.880]  Now we're going to go to Umberto in a 909 area code.
[56:42.880 --> 56:44.880]  Give us a state.
[56:44.880 --> 56:51.880]  Is Umberto right?
[56:51.880 --> 57:00.880]  If you're in the 909 area code, talk to me.
[57:00.880 --> 57:04.880]  Okay, we must have put Umberto to sleep.
[57:04.880 --> 57:07.880]  We have that effect on people sometimes.
[57:07.880 --> 57:09.880]  Okay, I'll try again later.
[57:09.880 --> 57:14.880]  Now we're going to go to what looks like another first-time caller.
[57:14.880 --> 57:24.880]  If you are in the 801 area code, talk to us.
[57:24.880 --> 57:27.880]  Okay, got you.
[57:27.880 --> 57:31.880]  Good, give us a first name and a state.
[57:31.880 --> 57:34.880]  This is Reyna in Utah.
[57:34.880 --> 57:35.880]  In Utah.
[57:35.880 --> 57:38.880]  Okay, what do you have for us today?
[57:38.880 --> 57:40.880]  Well, I have...
[57:40.880 --> 57:42.880]  Sorry, I've been out gardening.
[57:42.880 --> 57:45.880]  I have a few questions for you.
[57:45.880 --> 57:51.880]  I did just buy the course today, so I'm getting started on that.
[57:51.880 --> 57:57.880]  How do I utilize a public defender in a criminal case?
[57:57.880 --> 58:02.880]  Oh, good, that's a good question.
[58:02.880 --> 58:07.880]  You know, we used to hate lawyers and say, oh, they're terrible, get rid of them.
[58:07.880 --> 58:09.880]  No, no, no, we don't do that anymore.
[58:09.880 --> 58:13.880]  Lawyers are low-hanging fruit.
[58:13.880 --> 58:15.880]  This is how it works.
[58:15.880 --> 58:22.880]  When I go to law school, and a lot of them seem to get...their parents pay for the law school,
[58:22.880 --> 58:30.880]  so they don't have to work and they just...they think they're a mascot for one of the bureau companies
[58:30.880 --> 58:38.880]  and have a great time in law school and they don't graduate in the top 10%, which 90% don't.
[58:38.880 --> 58:44.880]  The top 10% tend to get picked up by law firms, by major law firms,
[58:44.880 --> 58:47.880]  and they start out making pretty big money.
[58:47.880 --> 58:49.880]  If you don't get picked...
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[01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.880]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there.
[01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.880]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.880]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed
[01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.880]  reminds me what the Third Amendment was designed to prevent.
[01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:03.880]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers,
[01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:06.880]  a common demand in the days of our founding fathers.
[01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:09.880]  Third party, Third Amendment? Get it?
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[01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.880]  tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment.
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[01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.880]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.880]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
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[01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:27.880]  Chant the words.
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[01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:24.680]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:04:24.680 --> 01:04:27.680]  On this Thursday, the 20...
[01:04:27.680 --> 01:04:35.520]  Oh, no, not 20, too many decimals.
[01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:45.200]  On the second day of June, 2022, we're halfway through the year, Brett, holy moly, and we're
[01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:50.680]  talking to Raina in Utah, is that right?
[01:04:50.680 --> 01:04:52.680]  Yep, that's it.
[01:04:52.680 --> 01:04:54.680]  Oh, I'm getting good.
[01:04:54.680 --> 01:05:00.880]  I am getting so good with my memory that I don't even remember the last time I forgot
[01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:01.880]  something.
[01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:09.000]  Okay, Raina, we were talking about lawyers and how to, how lawyers are low-hanging fruit.
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:15.240]  Lawyers think they're really important and they got all this sage advice for you and
[01:05:15.240 --> 01:05:23.080]  you tend to think that they are giving you advice that's in your best interest.
[01:05:23.080 --> 01:05:25.800]  Good luck with that.
[01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:32.680]  For the most part, they're giving you advice that's in their best interest, especially
[01:05:32.680 --> 01:05:38.680]  if it's a foreclosure or criminal issue.
[01:05:38.680 --> 01:05:44.240]  Lawyers are not going to do anything to get the courts or the banks upset at them.
[01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:51.360]  The banks got deep pockets, they can swallow any chump lawyer and the courts, they can
[01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:58.680]  eliminate a lawyer's practice in a heartbeat.
[01:05:58.680 --> 01:06:07.320]  You can't expect the lawyer to aggressively adjudicate your case if there's a chance that
[01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:12.920]  it will annoy a really big player or the courts.
[01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.200]  They're in business.
[01:06:15.200 --> 01:06:18.080]  They're going to have other clients.
[01:06:18.080 --> 01:06:25.720]  If they PO the judge addressing your issues, the judge is going to screw their next client
[01:06:25.720 --> 01:06:29.000]  to get back at them.
[01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:32.240]  What do you expect from this poor chump lawyer?
[01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:38.960]  Well, the fact that he has a problem is his problem.
[01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:48.240]  What we want to do is give the lawyer what we call plausible deniability.
[01:06:48.240 --> 01:06:53.800]  Judge you can't blame me, I got this difficult client.
[01:06:53.800 --> 01:07:00.600]  Going to court with a lawyer is kind of like sitting down at a four-sided chessboard.
[01:07:00.600 --> 01:07:07.480]  You sit down at the table, you have your lawyer to your right, opposing counsel to your left
[01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:10.400]  and the judge across from you.
[01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:15.480]  You have a relationship with your lawyer and generally he's fiduciary because you give
[01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.360]  him a handful of money.
[01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:22.420]  Your lawyer has a relationship with opposing counsel.
[01:07:22.420 --> 01:07:28.480]  They deal with one another all the time, they know each other and they both have their snouts
[01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:32.200]  in the same legal trough.
[01:07:32.200 --> 01:07:36.040]  Both lawyers have a relationship with the judge.
[01:07:36.040 --> 01:07:39.760]  They all have their snouts in the same trough.
[01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:47.120]  If you want to win your case, you're going to have to get inside those relationships.
[01:07:47.120 --> 01:07:50.400]  And we have a way to do that.
[01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:54.120]  Barb reads your lawyer into the stone age.
[01:07:54.120 --> 01:08:02.360]  Your lawyer, especially, we deal a lot with people who are in criminal court with court
[01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:03.600]  appointed counsel.
[01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:12.080]  If you're in criminal, okay, you're in court with a lawyer with court appointed counsel.
[01:08:12.080 --> 01:08:22.720]  His only purpose is to ensure that you do not have cause for appeal.
[01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:24.680]  He is not your friend.
[01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.640]  He is not going to try to help you.
[01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:29.640]  He's just going to try to make sure you don't.
[01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:36.400]  You make a deal with the court and you don't have grounds for appeal.
[01:08:36.400 --> 01:08:41.000]  And let me just clarify, when he says they want you to make a deal, he means they want
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  you to be guilty.
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:47.200]  They want you to plead guilty to something, maybe not the horrible, super horrific thing
[01:08:47.200 --> 01:08:49.320]  they started out with.
[01:08:49.320 --> 01:08:52.840]  They try to make it worse at first and then see if they can ratchet down to something
[01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:55.600]  that you would be okay with being accused of.
[01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:01.720]  I mean, if you make a deal, what he means by that is you're going to end up being guilty
[01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:04.040]  of something and that's what they're banking on.
[01:09:04.040 --> 01:09:05.040]  That's right.
[01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:10.320]  Let me tell you a little story that would be proud of me with that because I kind of
[01:09:10.320 --> 01:09:11.320]  already handled that.
[01:09:11.320 --> 01:09:18.560]  He tried to get me to basically just go and check into the local drug court system here
[01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:23.800]  and I got thinking about that and I thought, you know what, that means I'd be guilty without
[01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:30.480]  even having the court hearing to plead guilty or innocent or no contest or whatever I plead.
[01:09:30.480 --> 01:09:35.080]  And so I called him last night, five minutes to five, because my court date was this morning
[01:09:35.080 --> 01:09:39.880]  and I was supposed to go and do this within the last two weeks and I left a message and
[01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:42.160]  I said, hey Mike, listen, this is Raina.
[01:09:42.160 --> 01:09:46.040]  I'm just calling to let you know that the reason that the county hasn't received any
[01:09:46.040 --> 01:09:51.560]  information on me is because I thought about this and I realized that if I go and do that,
[01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:54.480]  then I am automatically submitting a guilty plea.
[01:09:54.480 --> 01:09:58.680]  And I said, nobody's actually taken the opportunity to ask me anything about what happened that
[01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:00.040]  night.
[01:10:00.040 --> 01:10:05.120]  And unlike the rest of the sheep a little bit smarter than the rest, I said this on
[01:10:05.120 --> 01:10:12.080]  his voicemail and I said a few other things, you know, and then I said, I don't know what
[01:10:12.080 --> 01:10:13.080]  protocol is.
[01:10:13.080 --> 01:10:16.440]  I will show up for court tomorrow if I need to ask the judge for a continuance, I'm fine
[01:10:16.440 --> 01:10:17.440]  with that.
[01:10:17.440 --> 01:10:22.880]  So you're the one that does that, but I need a continuance so I can get the records request
[01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:23.880]  that I need.
[01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:24.880]  I want the body cam footage.
[01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:27.240]  I want the dash cam footage.
[01:10:27.240 --> 01:10:32.000]  And I said, because the way things went down that night wasn't right and I'm not going
[01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.280]  to be, you know, basically shuffled along with everybody else.
[01:10:35.280 --> 01:10:36.280]  And I know that-
[01:10:36.280 --> 01:10:37.280]  Yeah.
[01:10:37.280 --> 01:10:38.280]  Very good.
[01:10:38.280 --> 01:10:39.280]  Okay.
[01:10:39.280 --> 01:10:40.280]  One-
[01:10:40.280 --> 01:10:41.280]  Go ahead.
[01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:42.280]  Go ahead.
[01:10:42.280 --> 01:10:43.280]  We get this all the time.
[01:10:43.280 --> 01:10:48.480]  You know, they do the same thing to everybody.
[01:10:48.480 --> 01:10:53.480]  They charge you with the most outrageous thing they can come up with because they want to
[01:10:53.480 --> 01:10:58.240]  deal it down to something where you'll take a deal, they won't have to go to court and
[01:10:58.240 --> 01:11:02.040]  they can get you on probation for the next four or five years and charge you 50 bucks
[01:11:02.040 --> 01:11:03.520]  a month.
[01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:10.920]  If you get a fine from the court, the fine, 80% of it goes to the, generally to the state,
[01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.080]  to the general fund.
[01:11:13.080 --> 01:11:19.520]  If you get on probation, that stays in the county.
[01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:21.800]  So they don't, they don't care about fining you.
[01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:23.800]  They want you on probation.
[01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:24.800]  Gotcha.
[01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.380]  So, and then anytime they want to, they can revoke your probation and extend it out.
[01:11:29.380 --> 01:11:31.440]  So they get steady income.
[01:11:31.440 --> 01:11:35.320]  Say that you messed up on one of your things that you were supposed to check in and we
[01:11:35.320 --> 01:11:37.800]  don't have any record of you checking in on this day.
[01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:38.800]  So you broke your probation.
[01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:39.800]  What?
[01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:40.800]  No, I didn't.
[01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:41.800]  Right.
[01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:48.920]  So there's one little thing I wanted to just quickly correct for you is you mentioned getting
[01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:52.200]  records requests to get these items.
[01:11:52.200 --> 01:11:58.240]  Actually, now that you're in the case, they won't be available to you with records requests.
[01:11:58.240 --> 01:12:00.920]  You'll have to get them via discovery.
[01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:01.920]  It's almost the same thing.
[01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:05.240]  Well, I received my discovery paperwork.
[01:12:05.240 --> 01:12:08.440]  I'm sorry?
[01:12:08.440 --> 01:12:13.200]  I received my discovery paperwork, you know, just basically the police report, I guess,
[01:12:13.200 --> 01:12:16.160]  but there wasn't any video.
[01:12:16.160 --> 01:12:19.160]  Well, you can ask for it.
[01:12:19.160 --> 01:12:20.160]  Okay.
[01:12:20.160 --> 01:12:23.240]  Here's the deal.
[01:12:23.240 --> 01:12:27.040]  You have a lawyer who has a relationship with the court.
[01:12:27.040 --> 01:12:28.040]  Yeah.
[01:12:28.040 --> 01:12:35.400]  The way you get to win your case is to get inside the relationships.
[01:12:35.400 --> 01:12:41.880]  First thing you want to do is prepare some documents and ask the lawyer to file them
[01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.040]  and he's going to refuse.
[01:12:45.040 --> 01:12:48.680]  And when he refuses, then you file a bar grievance against him.
[01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:52.880]  Do I tell him I'm filing a bar grievance or do I just do it?
[01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:54.480]  You just do it.
[01:12:54.480 --> 01:13:00.920]  I have a set of rules and one of the rules is never give fair warning.
[01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:07.320]  Now, for the most part, most of the people we talk to are reasonable human beings and
[01:13:07.320 --> 01:13:13.200]  we try to conduct ourselves with a reasonable amount of civility.
[01:13:13.200 --> 01:13:15.400]  But you're in a criminal court.
[01:13:15.400 --> 01:13:20.480]  There's nothing civil about it, so you have no duty to be civil.
[01:13:20.480 --> 01:13:27.600]  And we tend to feel like that before we hammer somebody, we need to give them fair warning.
[01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:33.280]  When you're in a criminal trial, that is a bad idea.
[01:13:33.280 --> 01:13:40.720]  If you give fair warning, they will always treat that as a threat, always.
[01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:45.240]  And they will accuse you of being agitated.
[01:13:45.240 --> 01:13:47.360]  So just bar-grieve him.
[01:13:47.360 --> 01:13:48.360]  Okay.
[01:13:48.360 --> 01:13:56.240]  And if he says one word to you about the bar grievance, you bar-grieve him for that because
[01:13:56.240 --> 01:13:58.000]  he's the lawyer.
[01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.600]  If you bar-grieve the lawyer and the lawyer comes to you, he can use his position to threaten
[01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:04.960]  and intimidate.
[01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:12.400]  So the bars tell him, you do not talk to anyone about this bar grievance except the bar.
[01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:19.240]  If the court finds out he's been bar-grieved, you bar-grieve the lawyer for that.
[01:14:19.240 --> 01:14:20.240]  Okay.
[01:14:20.240 --> 01:14:24.800]  Do you know what happens when you bar-grieve a lawyer?
[01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:30.520]  Yeah, if they're within their first year, if they get one, they're indemnifying insurance
[01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.440]  and they can't be a lawyer if they're in their career.
[01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:34.440]  Exactly.
[01:14:34.440 --> 01:14:38.120]  Well, for everybody else, when you bar-grieve a lawyer, the state bar is going to get that
[01:14:38.120 --> 01:14:41.040]  grievance and they're going to throw it in the trash.
[01:14:41.040 --> 01:14:45.480]  And they're going to send you this letter that says, we examined into your accusation
[01:14:45.480 --> 01:14:48.520]  by and it does not rise to the level of misconduct.
[01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:54.520]  And that is a good thing because their insurance carrier knows the bar is going to throw it
[01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:56.040]  in the trash.
[01:14:56.040 --> 01:14:58.680]  So how do they gauge the level of risk?
[01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:04.880]  By valid bar grievances, they can throw them all in the trash, by the numbers.
[01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.560]  One bar grievance, your first year of practice, they cancel immediately.
[01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:11.600]  Two bar grievances, any one year of practice, they cancel.
[01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.760]  Three, they cancel your law firm's malpractice insurance.
[01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:20.880]  It's not a whole lot different than automobile insurance.
[01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:25.520]  You buy a new car, you insure it, you go down to Walmart, you come out, somebody's backed
[01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.040]  into it, bashed into a fender.
[01:15:28.040 --> 01:15:32.920]  You call your insurance company, they come out, they fix it, they double your premiums.
[01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:35.520]  You go down there next month, somebody bashes in another one.
[01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:38.560]  You call them, they fix it, they cancel.
[01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:42.240]  Your fault, their fault, nobody's fault, they do not care.
[01:15:42.240 --> 01:15:49.320]  You are an unacceptable risk.
[01:15:49.320 --> 01:15:56.960]  Lawyers are the same way and malpractice insurance starts between $15,000 and $25,000 a year.
[01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:58.680]  One bar grievance, they cancel.
[01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:00.520]  They don't care if it's valid or not.
[01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:09.120]  It is the job of the agent, the insurance agent, to charge his client as much as possible
[01:16:09.120 --> 01:16:12.200]  and avoid any risk.
[01:16:12.200 --> 01:16:15.240]  So you have someone on your side over there.
[01:16:15.240 --> 01:16:22.840]  Now this has nothing to do with law, it has everything to do with politics.
[01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:28.200]  It has everything to do with how things really work in the real world we live in.
[01:16:28.200 --> 01:16:32.200]  That makes lawyers low-hanging fruit.
[01:16:32.200 --> 01:16:39.680]  Brett over here, if he files an information request with the county, the county has the
[01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:42.120]  county's lawyer respond to him.
[01:16:42.120 --> 01:16:44.280]  He bargains the lawyer.
[01:16:44.280 --> 01:16:45.280]  Don't talk to me, you chump.
[01:16:45.280 --> 01:16:46.280]  I didn't hire you.
[01:16:46.280 --> 01:16:47.280]  Well, I'm a lawyer for the county.
[01:16:47.280 --> 01:16:48.280]  Well, go talk to the county.
[01:16:48.280 --> 01:16:49.280]  I didn't hire you.
[01:16:49.280 --> 01:16:50.280]  Beat it.
[01:16:50.280 --> 01:16:51.280]  And he essentially neutralizes the lawyer.
[01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:52.280]  He puts the lawyer in a position.
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[01:19:32.160 --> 01:20:00.320]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:20:00.320 --> 01:20:08.640]  And kind of the point of all of this is that you can never expect to win your case simply
[01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:13.740]  because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:20:13.740 --> 01:20:17.280]  To think so is naive.
[01:20:17.280 --> 01:20:20.680]  It is not that way now.
[01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:26.600]  Never has been that way so long as we have had human beings as judges.
[01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:33.360]  Jesus Christ went around the Holy Land preaching what the Pharisees considered to be heresy.
[01:20:33.360 --> 01:20:41.660]  And Saul from Tarsus, before he became Paul, went to the Pharisees and asked them to crucify
[01:20:41.660 --> 01:20:46.040]  James and Peter because they were preaching this heresy.
[01:20:46.040 --> 01:20:48.920]  And the Pharisees said, oh, well, none are hurting anybody.
[01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:50.440]  We don't care.
[01:20:50.440 --> 01:20:52.920]  Jesus went around the Holy Land preaching heresy.
[01:20:52.920 --> 01:20:54.720]  Eh, we didn't care.
[01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.320]  He wouldn't hurt anybody.
[01:20:56.320 --> 01:21:00.920]  He didn't get in trouble until he went into the temple and kicked over the tables of the
[01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:03.240]  money changers.
[01:21:03.240 --> 01:21:05.840]  It wasn't about laws, it's about politics.
[01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:10.380]  And the money changers had the money to buy politics.
[01:21:10.380 --> 01:21:16.080]  That might not be right, but that's how it works in the real world we live in.
[01:21:16.080 --> 01:21:22.880]  Everything is political and all politics is local.
[01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:26.480]  So we generate a little local politics.
[01:21:26.480 --> 01:21:29.960]  We hammer the lawyer big time.
[01:21:29.960 --> 01:21:33.040]  We bar-grieve the lawyer.
[01:21:33.040 --> 01:21:37.120]  And then the first thing your lawyer is going to do when you bar-grieve him is he's going
[01:21:37.120 --> 01:21:44.120]  to file a motion with the court asking the court to allow him to withdraw.
[01:21:44.120 --> 01:21:49.360]  But before the court allows him to withdraw, the court is always going to ask you for your
[01:21:49.360 --> 01:21:56.120]  permission and you tell him, absolutely not.
[01:21:56.120 --> 01:21:58.960]  He is my lawyer and he is under contract.
[01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:05.280]  Now, if you have a lawyer, even if he's court-appointed, he is under contract.
[01:22:05.280 --> 01:22:12.080]  Austin, Travis County, appointed me a lawyer once because they wanted me to have one.
[01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:13.080]  I didn't care.
[01:22:13.080 --> 01:22:15.680]  I said, Mr. County, do you have counsel?
[01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:16.680]  Nope.
[01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:18.160]  Are you going to hire a lawyer?
[01:22:18.160 --> 01:22:19.160]  Nope.
[01:22:19.160 --> 01:22:20.160]  They don't like me to appoint you counsel.
[01:22:20.160 --> 01:22:21.600]  Well, I don't care what you do.
[01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:23.160]  Well, I'm going to appoint you counsel.
[01:22:23.160 --> 01:22:28.040]  I said, well, if you do, make sure you appoint me one you really don't like.
[01:22:28.040 --> 01:22:35.480]  They appointed me counsel and they wound up dismissing my case to protect my lawyer from
[01:22:35.480 --> 01:22:38.120]  me.
[01:22:38.120 --> 01:22:42.940]  All these guys have their snouts in the same trough.
[01:22:42.940 --> 01:22:48.840]  So what you want to do is put your lawyer in a position so he goes to these other guys
[01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:53.680]  and say, hey guys, I have a difficult client here.
[01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:55.440]  You need to help me out.
[01:22:55.440 --> 01:23:01.000]  I'll pay you back on the next client.
[01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.680]  And the way we do it is we bargrieve him and then you run to the court and ask the court
[01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:10.800]  to allow him to withdraw and you tell the court, don't you dare allow him to withdraw.
[01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:12.280]  He's under contract.
[01:23:12.280 --> 01:23:18.720]  Now, even if he's court appointed, if he's court appointed, he's under contract with
[01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:23.760]  the state, but you're the third party beneficiary and you have standing under the contract.
[01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:32.760]  If we have not had a judge allow the lawyer to withdraw in the face of a contract because
[01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:38.160]  the sixth amendment of the constitution warns them about that, they're not to interfere
[01:23:38.160 --> 01:23:41.440]  with the obligations of contracts.
[01:23:41.440 --> 01:23:45.920]  If the judge allows him to withdraw, you can sue the judge for interfering with the contract
[01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.120]  violation of the constitution.
[01:23:49.120 --> 01:23:52.320]  Which means the lawyer that you just bargrieved is now trapped.
[01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:54.800]  He can't get out.
[01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:57.440]  You're hurting him with the bar grievance.
[01:23:57.440 --> 01:24:04.280]  You're forcing him to do what's right against his politics.
[01:24:04.280 --> 01:24:09.800]  All the people that he's dealing with are feeling the friction of him having to do what
[01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:16.880]  he's being forced to do and then that puts him in a position that he can.
[01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:21.240]  We call that plausible deniability.
[01:24:21.240 --> 01:24:22.600]  Don't blame me, judge.
[01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:28.520]  I got this scoundrel for a client and he's going to ruin my practice.
[01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:30.520]  So you need to help me out.
[01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:38.840]  The last case I had in Austin, they dismissed the case to protect my lawyer from me.
[01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:45.000]  These are low-hanging fruit, they're not used to a pro se coming right for their throats.
[01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:48.680]  Your lawyer does not need to be your buddy.
[01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:54.640]  He's going to try to pretend he's your buddy so he can snooker you into taking a deal when
[01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.040]  he brings it.
[01:24:57.040 --> 01:25:01.480]  He is not on your side, he's on his side.
[01:25:01.480 --> 01:25:05.680]  Brandon, there's one thing that you mentioned a minute ago.
[01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:09.920]  You said that after the bar grievance, I think you were under the impression that he can't
[01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.560]  be a lawyer anymore.
[01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:20.840]  It's not exactly that, it is he's having to pay more for insurance because he's got malpractice
[01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:23.280]  insurance that he has to keep up.
[01:25:23.280 --> 01:25:26.600]  That's what Randy was talking about just a minute ago.
[01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:31.320]  His insurance premiums are going up and he's getting his insurance dropped.
[01:25:31.320 --> 01:25:37.920]  He can still be a lawyer, but now he's feeling kind of naked because, well, lawyers do a
[01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.160]  lot of malpractice.
[01:25:40.160 --> 01:25:45.160]  And if he is court appointed counsel, he must have insurance.
[01:25:45.160 --> 01:25:50.640]  Yeah, so he has to fall off that wheel.
[01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:55.800]  They are exceptionally vulnerable.
[01:25:55.800 --> 01:26:02.360]  Now when you bar grieve a lawyer, he's not going to say a word to you about it.
[01:26:02.360 --> 01:26:08.240]  The reason he's not going to say a word to you about it is because he is forbidden to.
[01:26:08.240 --> 01:26:14.320]  The bar association says if someone bar grieves a lawyer, the lawyer is not to address that
[01:26:14.320 --> 01:26:18.960]  with the client or with the person who filed the grievance because the lawyer would tend
[01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:21.080]  to have an unfair advantage.
[01:26:21.080 --> 01:26:24.520]  He could threaten and intimidate the filer.
[01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:29.500]  So he may only communicate with the bar about the grievance.
[01:26:29.500 --> 01:26:36.040]  So if you file a bar grievance against the lawyer and the judge finds out about it, you
[01:26:36.040 --> 01:26:39.840]  bar grieve the lawyer for that.
[01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:43.560]  And that will drive them crazy because the second bar grievance, they're going to cancel
[01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:49.880]  his malpractice insurance and he's going to get apoplexy and he's going to run to the
[01:26:49.880 --> 01:26:52.040]  judge, judge, you've got to help me out.
[01:26:52.040 --> 01:26:55.200]  That's what happened in my case.
[01:26:55.200 --> 01:27:01.440]  The lawyer came to me, he was up at the bench with the prosecutor talking to the judge and
[01:27:01.440 --> 01:27:05.000]  I was outside the bar and he came to me and he said, the prosecutor said, she knows who
[01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:09.240]  you are and if you start filing criminal charges, she's going to charge you with tampering the
[01:27:09.240 --> 01:27:10.240]  government document.
[01:27:10.240 --> 01:27:13.320]  I looked down at her and I said, she said that, didn't she?
[01:27:13.320 --> 01:27:14.320]  She said, yes, she did.
[01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:17.000]  I reached in my case and pulled out 30.
[01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:19.120]  I got 30 criminal complaints here.
[01:27:19.120 --> 01:27:23.640]  I need you to get her over here to verify them and according to her duty under article
[01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:27.000]  2.06, court of crime procedure.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.440]  I can just see you waving that pile of paper in your hair.
[01:27:30.440 --> 01:27:32.960]  And I pointed at her, you get over here.
[01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:37.120]  And she scoots up against the bench like the judge would protect her.
[01:27:37.120 --> 01:27:40.480]  I turned to my lawyer and I said, here, take these.
[01:27:40.480 --> 01:27:43.280]  He held up both hands with his palms out.
[01:27:43.280 --> 01:27:44.280]  I'm not going to touch them.
[01:27:44.280 --> 01:27:45.280]  I'm not going to touch them.
[01:27:45.280 --> 01:27:48.040]  Take them, you chicken shit.
[01:27:48.040 --> 01:27:52.880]  And the judge bangs the gavel, recessed for lunch.
[01:27:52.880 --> 01:28:00.760]  Before I could get my burrito, my lawyer called me and told me the judge dismissed the case.
[01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:03.860]  And he was absolutely ecstatic.
[01:28:03.860 --> 01:28:10.580]  I think that is the first case he ever won, but he seemed too happy.
[01:28:10.580 --> 01:28:13.520]  So I said, did he dismiss it with prejudice?
[01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:14.520]  Well, no.
[01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:16.920]  Well, you get back in there and get that thing back on.
[01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:18.440]  I want to dismiss it with prejudice.
[01:28:18.440 --> 01:28:23.320]  I don't want him coming back six months from now, prosecuting me again, oh, Mr. Kelton.
[01:28:23.320 --> 01:28:27.480]  OK, I was just kidding.
[01:28:27.480 --> 01:28:29.280]  Your lawyers are low-hanging fruit.
[01:28:29.280 --> 01:28:32.280]  You can use them as a tool.
[01:28:32.280 --> 01:28:36.360]  Does that sound like fun?
[01:28:36.360 --> 01:28:39.120]  Oh, wait a minute.
[01:28:39.120 --> 01:28:40.120]  You're muted.
[01:28:40.120 --> 01:28:41.120]  Fenders.
[01:28:41.120 --> 01:28:42.120]  Oh.
[01:28:42.120 --> 01:28:43.120]  OK, start again.
[01:28:43.120 --> 01:28:44.120]  I didn't unmute you.
[01:28:44.120 --> 01:28:45.120]  No problem.
[01:28:45.120 --> 01:28:51.680]  I've watched a lot of those public defenders, you know, wreck a lot of my friends' lives
[01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:52.680]  and family members.
[01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:56.360]  And so I'm super excited to do this.
[01:28:56.360 --> 01:28:57.360]  It'll be my first time.
[01:28:57.360 --> 01:29:03.840]  I'm a little nervous, but I have the personality to push forward.
[01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:04.840]  And once I do that, I'm with you.
[01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:05.840]  All right.
[01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:10.040]  There is one problem with doing this that I have to warn you about.
[01:29:10.040 --> 01:29:11.040]  Uh-oh.
[01:29:11.040 --> 01:29:12.040]  OK.
[01:29:12.040 --> 01:29:23.400]  When you do this, you know, after the first time, it can get to be way too much fun.
[01:29:23.400 --> 01:29:30.880]  I had to curb myself because I like this way too much.
[01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:35.080]  It took me a long time to learn all the ins and outs.
[01:29:35.080 --> 01:29:42.640]  It's because, you know, I'm a combat veteran, and I was instructed that when I mustered
[01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:48.440]  out of the military that I was not relieved from my oath, that my oath was a lifetime
[01:29:48.440 --> 01:29:49.440]  oath.
[01:29:49.440 --> 01:29:55.120]  And I swore on my oath that I'd protect this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
[01:29:55.120 --> 01:29:57.440]  I found a domestic enemy and a fight's on.
[01:29:57.440 --> 01:30:27.360]  And we'll pick it up on the other side, and we'll be right back.
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[01:33:55.760 --> 01:34:01.560]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brat Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and I realize you've used
[01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:10.080]  a lot of time on this, but frankly, Rayna, I used you to be able to address some things
[01:34:10.080 --> 01:34:15.320]  that we need to go over on a regular basis, and this is one of the important things that
[01:34:15.320 --> 01:34:20.400]  we need to go over on a pre-regular basis.
[01:34:20.400 --> 01:34:23.360]  Lawyers are low-hanging fruit.
[01:34:23.360 --> 01:34:30.440]  If you have been appointed a lawyer in a criminal case and the lawyer's not doing anything,
[01:34:30.440 --> 01:34:34.200]  do not fire the lawyer.
[01:34:34.200 --> 01:34:40.040]  Hammer him big time so that he goes to the court and asks the court to dismiss your case
[01:34:40.040 --> 01:34:44.320]  so that you don't ruin his career.
[01:34:44.320 --> 01:34:47.800]  That's what happened in my last case in Austin.
[01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:51.840]  The lawyer went to the judge and said, Judge, you've got to help me out here.
[01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:53.720]  This guy's going to ruin my career.
[01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:58.800]  If he files a bar grievance against me, then I'll lose my malpractice insurance and I can't
[01:34:58.800 --> 01:34:59.800]  practice.
[01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:03.840]  They've all got their snouts in the same trough.
[01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:07.840]  I keep telling everybody, it's all politics.
[01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:12.120]  Yes, Brett and I are creatures of statute.
[01:35:12.120 --> 01:35:16.960]  We read, study, and understand the statutes, but you're not going to win the case simply
[01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:19.560]  because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:23.000]  To think so is naive.
[01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.880]  You win the case, you have the politics on your side.
[01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:34.640]  Hammer your lawyer and get the judge to have to dismiss your case to protect your lawyer
[01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:35.640]  from you.
[01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:37.640]  Does that make sense right now?
[01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:39.280]  Yeah, it does.
[01:35:39.280 --> 01:35:42.200]  I actually really like your strategy.
[01:35:42.200 --> 01:35:47.040]  Yep, I like your strategy.
[01:35:47.040 --> 01:35:52.120]  There's something satisfying about being able to kick their behinds.
[01:35:52.120 --> 01:35:59.840]  Yeah, especially since they have a system that is so carefully crafted.
[01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:04.920]  They think that they can do whatever they want and get away with it, but then they sure
[01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:07.680]  didn't expect that you knew about this.
[01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:08.680]  Right.
[01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:12.880]  I have a question, Randy.
[01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:18.000]  When you say file a bunch of paperwork, so you always say to start with your end goal
[01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:19.000]  in mind.
[01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:22.880]  My end goal is to get the case dismissed.
[01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:30.120]  Do I just need to file the motions for my rights that were violated to get the case
[01:36:30.120 --> 01:36:31.120]  dismissed?
[01:36:31.120 --> 01:36:35.840]  When he tells me he's not going to file that with the court, that's when I bar grieve.
[01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:36.840]  Yes.
[01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:38.840]  That's the approach I take, right?
[01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:39.840]  Okay.
[01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:45.440]  I got a guy in San Marcos, Texas, and we just did that to him.
[01:36:45.440 --> 01:36:54.880]  He filed a motion to withdraw, and the judge called dad up, and he said, Mr. Trevino, are
[01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:57.240]  you in agreement with your lawyer's drawing?
[01:36:57.240 --> 01:36:59.000]  He said, heck no.
[01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  He's under contract.
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.960]  I paid him, and he hasn't done anything.
[01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:09.520]  He's not going anywhere, and the judge said, counselor, you're going to have to handle
[01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:11.960]  this with your client.
[01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:19.040]  The judge did not dare allow him to withdraw, because if he did, he would be in violation
[01:37:19.040 --> 01:37:21.120]  of the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution.
[01:37:21.120 --> 01:37:22.120]  Yeah.
[01:37:22.120 --> 01:37:27.120]  He can't impair the obligations of a contract.
[01:37:27.120 --> 01:37:36.640]  If he did, that would make him personally suable, so he knew it, and he knew you knew
[01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:37.640]  it.
[01:37:37.640 --> 01:37:45.880]  When you tell the judge, heck no, the judge knows that I got somebody who knows, and if
[01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:49.040]  I'm not careful, he'll kick my behind.
[01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:52.040]  It's all politics.
[01:37:52.040 --> 01:37:55.040]  All right.
[01:37:55.040 --> 01:38:06.000]  Let me just look at my notes here, see what else I was going to ask you.
[01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:13.280]  Actually, I'm good, probably, because I don't really need to go and ask him for more of
[01:38:13.280 --> 01:38:16.120]  the discovery if I just start filing the motions and...
[01:38:16.120 --> 01:38:17.120]  Okay.
[01:38:17.120 --> 01:38:25.360]  It's our position that you should never get to the merits.
[01:38:25.360 --> 01:38:33.760]  If you get to the merits of the case, then the case goes to the discretion of the court.
[01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:34.760]  Oh.
[01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:40.960]  Yeah, you don't ever want to give that judge opportunity to exercise discretion.
[01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:41.960]  Okay.
[01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:45.920]  Hammer them on.
[01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:49.800]  The first thing you want is jurisdiction.
[01:38:49.800 --> 01:39:00.200]  If they don't follow all the rules, then they become trespassers ab initio from the beginning,
[01:39:00.200 --> 01:39:04.000]  and all their acts are defeated, so he asks the court to dismiss everything.
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:05.000]  Okay.
[01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:13.840]  You don't ever want to get to the point where, oh, I'll come to a full stop, and the policeman
[01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:19.360]  says, oh, no, I didn't come to a full stop, and the judge is always going to rule in favor
[01:39:19.360 --> 01:39:21.120]  of the policeman.
[01:39:21.120 --> 01:39:22.720]  Right.
[01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:24.960]  You don't ever want to get there.
[01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:25.960]  Okay.
[01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:28.960]  That's good advice.
[01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:30.800]  Okay.
[01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:31.800]  Keep listening.
[01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:33.000]  Keep calling.
[01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:36.080]  We got lots of stuff to beat him up with.
[01:39:36.080 --> 01:39:38.080]  I love it.
[01:39:38.080 --> 01:39:40.040]  Thanks, guys.
[01:39:40.040 --> 01:39:41.040]  Okay.
[01:39:41.040 --> 01:39:42.040]  Yeah.
[01:39:42.040 --> 01:39:43.600]  Keep us up to date on how this goes.
[01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:44.600]  Okay.
[01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:45.600]  Thank you.
[01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:46.600]  Okay.
[01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:47.600]  Thank you.
[01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:55.200]  Now, we're going to go to... Let's see, Keisha... Keisha, have we talked to Keisha?
[01:39:55.200 --> 01:39:56.200]  She's still on the line.
[01:39:56.200 --> 01:39:57.200]  Yeah.
[01:39:57.200 --> 01:39:58.760]  I guess she's still hanging on listening.
[01:39:58.760 --> 01:39:59.760]  Okay.
[01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:00.760]  Now, we're going...
[01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:03.040]  We have a listener line.
[01:40:03.040 --> 01:40:04.040]  Okay.
[01:40:04.040 --> 01:40:05.040]  We got Daisy.
[01:40:05.040 --> 01:40:06.040]  Yeah.
[01:40:06.040 --> 01:40:12.480]  Keisha, if you're hanging on, it costs us when you're hanging on, so if you can, drop
[01:40:12.480 --> 01:40:15.840]  off and go to the listener line.
[01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:17.960]  That doesn't cost us per minute.
[01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:18.960]  Okay.
[01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:21.440]  We're going to Daisy in Ohio.
[01:40:21.440 --> 01:40:25.680]  Okay, Daisy, what do you have for us today?
[01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:27.960]  Hello, gentlemen.
[01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:32.800]  I am just kind of following up.
[01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:42.200]  I called last week, and I've had some interactions with Brett.
[01:40:42.200 --> 01:40:49.800]  My main question is... I don't know if I need to go into the back story at all, but
[01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:59.920]  I'm basically filing a mandamus, two mandamus actions tomorrow, I'm hoping, for public record
[01:40:59.920 --> 01:41:08.600]  violations, and I had a couple questions about that.
[01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:15.920]  The first one is just as far as organizing the emails as an exhibit, if there's a suggestion
[01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:21.520]  on... Brett, maybe you know, because you looked it over a little bit, but if there
[01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:31.240]  was a suggestion on how I should put those attached to my pleading, should each email
[01:41:31.240 --> 01:41:40.760]  thread be its own exhibit and cited, or is it okay to just put them together as one exhibit?
[01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:53.000]  Okay, in order to bring those into the case as a fact before the court, you have to establish
[01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:55.680]  foundation.
[01:41:55.680 --> 01:42:00.400]  You can't just say, he did this.
[01:42:00.400 --> 01:42:12.520]  You have to state why this is important, why it's relevant, how it applies to this issue,
[01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:18.320]  and the law in support of why it applies to the issue.
[01:42:18.320 --> 01:42:25.160]  If you watch these TV programs on court cases, you'll hear a lawyer say, objection foundation.
[01:42:25.160 --> 01:42:27.240]  You can't just come in and state facts.
[01:42:27.240 --> 01:42:31.280]  Yeah, and you'll also hear them when they're doing it right, they set it up by saying,
[01:42:31.280 --> 01:42:37.760]  and we will show the court that, and talk about what it is and how it relates and why
[01:42:37.760 --> 01:42:42.800]  it matters, and that way you've set a stage for it.
[01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:50.680]  Yes, I went to the court, to the police department, and I filed with the police department a verified
[01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:58.520]  criminal affidavit alleging that the defendant in this case or the respondent in this case
[01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:06.720]  violated this law relating to his office, and in support of this allegation, I offered
[01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:10.960]  to the court this verified criminal affidavit.
[01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:18.200]  I've just established foundation for the filing of that document into the record.
[01:43:18.200 --> 01:43:25.040]  You have to tell the court why this matters, why it's important to the court before you
[01:43:25.040 --> 01:43:26.840]  can enter it into evidence.
[01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:28.840]  Does that make sense?
[01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:34.760]  Yes, and so I've written a pleading, and because of the public records mandamus, it's pretty
[01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:35.760]  concise.
[01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:43.520]  I mean, I suppose it could go, be more complicated, and I am kind of thinking a little more.
[01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:48.280]  Wait a minute, it could also run completely off the cliff.
[01:43:48.280 --> 01:43:49.280]  Right.
[01:43:49.280 --> 01:43:50.280]  Hang on.
[01:43:50.280 --> 01:43:53.280]  I thought you were going to let her do it.
[01:43:53.280 --> 01:43:57.080]  Randy Kelvin, Rhett Fountain, we'll be right back.
[01:43:57.080 --> 01:43:58.080]  Dang, cookies.
[01:43:58.080 --> 01:43:59.080]  Cookies?
[01:43:59.080 --> 01:44:00.080]  Me love cookies.
[01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:01.080]  Oh, hi, Cookie Munchers.
[01:44:01.080 --> 01:44:02.080]  No, these are yucky cookies.
[01:44:02.080 --> 01:44:03.080]  Cookies?
[01:44:03.080 --> 01:44:04.080]  Yucky?
[01:44:04.080 --> 01:44:05.080]  No, no bad cookies.
[01:44:05.080 --> 01:44:06.080]  You can't even eat these cookies.
[01:44:06.080 --> 01:44:07.080]  These are cyber cookies.
[01:44:07.080 --> 01:44:08.080]  No, can't eat these cookies.
[01:44:08.080 --> 01:44:09.080]  No, can't eat these cookies.
[01:44:09.080 --> 01:44:10.080]  No, can't eat these cookies.
[01:44:10.080 --> 01:44:11.080]  No, can't eat these cookies.
[01:44:11.080 --> 01:44:14.080]  These are cyber cookies.
[01:44:14.080 --> 01:44:15.080]  No, can't eat these cookies.
[01:44:15.080 --> 01:44:17.080]  No, they are cyber cookies, and they clog up your computer.
[01:44:17.080 --> 01:44:18.080]  These have apples.
[01:44:18.080 --> 01:44:19.080]  Really?
[01:44:19.080 --> 01:44:20.080]  Oh, that's an echo apple.
[01:44:20.080 --> 01:44:21.080]  Yummy apple.
[01:44:21.080 --> 01:44:27.000]  I'm going to throw away these yucky cookies in the trash.
[01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:33.200]  I click control, shift, delete, and then scroll down to cookies and clear them.
[01:44:33.200 --> 01:44:34.680]  Bye bye, yucky cookies.
[01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:40.160]  Now, I go to logosradionetwork.com, and I click on the Amazon box on the upper right
[01:44:40.160 --> 01:44:45.880]  hand side, bookmark the link, and I can go to Amazon through this link and order you
[01:44:45.880 --> 01:44:46.880]  some yummy new cookies.
[01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:47.880]  New cookies?
[01:44:47.880 --> 01:44:48.880]  For me?
[01:44:48.880 --> 01:44:51.240]  Consider it an early Christmas present.
[01:44:51.240 --> 01:44:56.040]  And every time I order on Amazon, I go through this link and I give a little present to this
[01:44:56.040 --> 01:44:57.040]  radio network, too.
[01:44:57.040 --> 01:44:58.040]  C is for cookie.
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[01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:30.840]  Something I realize fully
[01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:35.840]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:39.840]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:43.840]  There's always a room at the top of the hill
[01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:48.840]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left too
[01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:52.840]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to fail
[01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:56.840]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will
[01:46:56.840 --> 01:47:00.840]  Something in this world will never understand
[01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:04.840]  Something I realize fully
[01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:09.840]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:13.840]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:15.840]  I know they will
[01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:17.840]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill
[01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:22.840]  I know they will, cause I see so much in God's detail
[01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:26.840]  I know they will, never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.840]  I know they will, never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:32.840]  I know they will
[01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:36.840]  I know they will
[01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:38.840]  I never know
[01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:40.840]  I know they will
[01:47:40.840 --> 01:47:42.840]  Station hours, huh?
[01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:44.840]  I know they will
[01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:48.840]  I know they will
[01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.840]  Went down to that old rock quarry the other day
[01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:52.840]  I know they will
[01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:55.840]  That's where I heard that old rock quarry message
[01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:56.840]  I know they will
[01:47:56.840 --> 01:48:00.840]  He knew I always have a place for my head to lay
[01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:01.840]  I know they will
[01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:04.840]  I filled up my truck, went goodbye and drove away
[01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:05.840]  I know they will
[01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:08.840]  Something in this world will never understand
[01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:09.840]  I know they will
[01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:12.840]  Something I realize fully
[01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:14.840]  I know they will
[01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:17.840]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:19.840]  Okay, we are back.
[01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:22.840]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio.
[01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:28.840]  And we're talking to Daisy in Ohio, E.J., Nicholas.
[01:48:28.840 --> 01:48:30.840]  I don't think we'll get to you today.
[01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:32.840]  We've only got 10 minutes.
[01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:37.840]  But if you'll call back tomorrow, we will take you first.
[01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:40.840]  Okay, Daisy, where were we?
[01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:47.840]  Okay, so I'm writing the mandamus and the pleading.
[01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:49.840]  So my question is, I understand what you're saying
[01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:53.840]  as far as introducing it in the pleading
[01:48:53.840 --> 01:49:01.840]  and then linking it to the proof or the exhibit or the email.
[01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:05.840]  What I'm getting a little bit in the weeds on is
[01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:08.840]  if I need to in the pleading
[01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:13.840]  make a paragraph for each back and forth response
[01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:17.840]  or like I have written, you know, as the exhibit show
[01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:20.840]  respondent has claimed various reasons to the delay
[01:49:20.840 --> 01:49:24.840]  of fulfilling the request, citing an error in the matrix,
[01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:28.840]  technical issues, reduction issues, and other reasons.
[01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:31.840]  Okay, I'm going to suggest
[01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:38.840]  give the court as much information as you can.
[01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:40.840]  Okay.
[01:49:40.840 --> 01:49:45.840]  Write your pleading so that you could give it to an eighth grader
[01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:48.840]  and they can read it one time
[01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:52.840]  and understand what you're talking about.
[01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:54.840]  Send it to me, I will critique it.
[01:49:54.840 --> 01:49:58.840]  But if you send it to me and I critique it,
[01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.840]  I'll have to warn you.
[01:50:01.840 --> 01:50:06.840]  When it comes to legal documents, I am absolutely merciless.
[01:50:06.840 --> 01:50:10.840]  I will rip it to shreds.
[01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:14.840]  And this is what I'll do when I'm reading it.
[01:50:14.840 --> 01:50:18.840]  I will look for any place where your,
[01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:23.840]  any statement that you have creates a question in my mind
[01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:26.840]  that it doesn't answer.
[01:50:26.840 --> 01:50:31.840]  Any place where I have to read something twice
[01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:35.840]  to be able to understand it.
[01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:39.840]  And this is in my book, my e-book,
[01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:43.840]  Legal 101, I have a section on mental flow.
[01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:47.840]  And we have Dr. Joe on the bridge today,
[01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:52.840]  and he is my local expert on neurolinguistic programming.
[01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:55.840]  And this goes to neurolinguistic programming.
[01:50:55.840 --> 01:51:02.840]  It goes to how to move the mind without interruption.
[01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:06.840]  So I'm likely to raise issues or objections
[01:51:06.840 --> 01:51:12.840]  that don't on the surface sound usual.
[01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:18.840]  And that's because I want the judge to be able to read this document.
[01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:21.840]  And any question that comes to his mind,
[01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:23.840]  you will immediately answer it
[01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:26.840]  or you will have already answered that question
[01:51:26.840 --> 01:51:30.840]  before it comes to his mind.
[01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:34.840]  Avoid any acronyms,
[01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:38.840]  no matter how well-known you think they are.
[01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:42.840]  Whenever a human being sees an acronym,
[01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:47.840]  one part of their brain has to stop and take the letters
[01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:50.840]  and compare them to the phrase they think it goes to
[01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:52.840]  to make sure they haven't missed anything.
[01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:56.840]  It always drops them out of mental flow.
[01:51:56.840 --> 01:52:03.840]  So I'll rip it to shreds, but don't take it personal.
[01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:07.840]  Okay, no, I don't.
[01:52:07.840 --> 01:52:10.840]  Yeah, I'm used to, I'm a writer, so I'm used to,
[01:52:10.840 --> 01:52:14.840]  I don't have a, I've grown six skins now,
[01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:16.840]  and I appreciate that that would be,
[01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:21.840]  the point isn't to feel any kind of way to make this work.
[01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:26.840]  So, but okay, well, that would be good.
[01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:29.840]  Then I guess I could, but from what I'm understanding
[01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:31.840]  is I actually had it longer and then I thought,
[01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:33.840]  well, I'm kind of repeating what's in the emails
[01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:37.840]  until the judge will like maybe get annoyed
[01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:40.840]  that I've put too much in here.
[01:52:40.840 --> 01:52:45.840]  So I tried to skim it down because I also have,
[01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:49.840]  I also have transcripts from two board meetings
[01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:51.840]  that I was going to include, and I guess I was just
[01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:56.840]  a little concerned that because it was, it's a...
[01:52:56.840 --> 01:52:59.840]  No problem, include those.
[01:52:59.840 --> 01:53:02.840]  The judge can read them if he wants to.
[01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:07.840]  If you make an assertion about what's in the transcript,
[01:53:07.840 --> 01:53:11.840]  if he's, what I do when I make an assertion to something
[01:53:11.840 --> 01:53:16.840]  that's in a transcript or that's in a case or in a statute,
[01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:21.840]  I quote that right under where I make the assertion.
[01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:26.840]  And in the quote, I shrink it by two points, five points,
[01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:30.840]  I set it in italics, and I shrink the margin
[01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:33.840]  on both sides by half.
[01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:37.840]  So the judge can see exactly what the quote is,
[01:53:37.840 --> 01:53:43.840]  so it's real easy to separate what's a quotation from the prose.
[01:53:43.840 --> 01:53:46.840]  If the judge already knows what that is,
[01:53:46.840 --> 01:53:48.840]  he can just jump right over it.
[01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:51.840]  It won't kick him out of mental flow at all.
[01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:55.840]  But if he has any question, then he can look at it,
[01:53:55.840 --> 01:53:58.840]  and I always want to send my documents to the judge
[01:53:58.840 --> 01:54:00.840]  in electronic format.
[01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:05.840]  I want to email it to him as well as file it in physical format,
[01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:11.840]  in hard copy, so that he will always want to open it.
[01:54:11.840 --> 01:54:15.840]  Judges have been asking for hyperlink documents,
[01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:18.840]  and they're not getting them from the lawyer.
[01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:23.840]  I want my document to have, my judge, whoever's reading it,
[01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:26.840]  to have a fully hyperlink document.
[01:54:26.840 --> 01:54:31.840]  So if I cite something and I quote it right there in the document,
[01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:34.840]  I also have a hyperlink.
[01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:38.840]  So he can click on the hyperlink and go to the actual case
[01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:42.840]  or the actual statute and read it in the statute,
[01:54:42.840 --> 01:54:45.840]  so he knows I'm not BSing him,
[01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:56.840]  because lawyers BS judges all the time.
[01:54:56.840 --> 01:55:03.840]  So it sounds like maybe I should take my time getting this filed.
[01:55:03.840 --> 01:55:08.840]  If you send me an email and ask me for some of my documents,
[01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:09.840]  I'll send them to you.
[01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:12.840]  I have a special way of doing this.
[01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:18.840]  When I write a legal document, I put a heading on every paragraph.
[01:55:18.840 --> 01:55:23.840]  Now that makes the document larger physically,
[01:55:23.840 --> 01:55:26.840]  but mentally it shortens it.
[01:55:26.840 --> 01:55:32.840]  Every paragraph I've told him, this is what I'm going to tell you.
[01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:39.840]  So that the reader then reads the paragraph based on the title,
[01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:43.840]  the heading to the paragraph.
[01:55:43.840 --> 01:55:49.840]  So I've told him the context in which I want him to read this paragraph.
[01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:53.840]  It is extremely powerful.
[01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:59.840]  It guides the mind so that the judge doesn't have to guess.
[01:55:59.840 --> 01:56:04.840]  And I'm very careful with conjunctions.
[01:56:04.840 --> 01:56:10.840]  Do you know what the word the means, T-H-E?
[01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:15.840]  I remember I heard you talking about this, but I don't remember what you said.
[01:56:15.840 --> 01:56:23.840]  It is the most common term used in English, and very few people can define it.
[01:56:23.840 --> 01:56:26.840]  Be extremely careful with your use of words.
[01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:30.840]  If you cannot define the word, go look it up.
[01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:37.840]  The means one previously mentioned.
[01:56:37.840 --> 01:56:48.840]  Be careful using the when you haven't already referenced what the is.
[01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:51.840]  I have an e-book, Legal 101.
[01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:56.840]  I have a section on mental flow.
[01:56:56.840 --> 01:56:59.840]  My section on mental flow is not about mental grammar,
[01:56:59.840 --> 01:57:04.840]  although grammar is important because it will knock you out of mental flow.
[01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:08.840]  There is a lot more to mental flow than just grammar.
[01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:10.840]  Dr. Joe is online.
[01:57:10.840 --> 01:57:16.840]  He is my resident expert on neuro-linguistic programming.
[01:57:16.840 --> 01:57:21.840]  Mental flow also goes to pacing, reading, reality-stacking, analog-marking,
[01:57:21.840 --> 01:57:25.840]  leading the mind of your reader
[01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:32.840]  so that when your reader starts reading your document, he falls into the prose.
[01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:35.840]  And you don't do anything to trip him up.
[01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:40.840]  Have you ever read a book to where you start reading it,
[01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:45.840]  and then 30 minutes or an hour later you come to?
[01:57:45.840 --> 01:57:50.840]  That's someone who never knocked you out of mental flow.
[01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:53.840]  And it is an art to do that.
[01:57:53.840 --> 01:58:01.840]  If you can do that with legal pleadings, you will get very good responses.
[01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:08.840]  I was kind of thinking, I heard you tell advice sometimes to just go file it.
[01:58:08.840 --> 01:58:14.840]  But now I think I need to take a moment with it.
[01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:20.840]  Write it, leave it set for two days, read it, rework it,
[01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:23.840]  send it to somebody else and let them rip it apart for you.
[01:58:23.840 --> 01:58:26.840]  Send it to someone who is merciless.
[01:58:26.840 --> 01:58:29.840]  And then rewrite it and then send it.
[01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:30.840]  We are out of time.
[01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:34.840]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we love our radio.
[01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:37.840]  E.J., Alberto, call us tomorrow.
[01:58:37.840 --> 01:58:40.840]  We'll bump you up to the front.
[01:58:40.840 --> 01:58:42.840]  Thank you all for listening.
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