[00:00.000 --> 00:05.560]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.560 --> 00:09.600]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.600 --> 00:11.040]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:11.040 --> 00:15.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:15.000 --> 00:17.100]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:17.100 --> 00:18.680]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.680 --> 00:22.300]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.300 --> 00:27.080]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:27.080 --> 00:32.080]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.080 --> 00:33.080]  Privacy.
[00:33.080 --> 00:34.840]  It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:45.760 --> 00:47.960]  It's what fighters do.
[00:47.960 --> 00:50.920]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.920 --> 00:54.640]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.640 --> 01:01.720]  Spar with an extra P. S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.720 --> 01:03.080]  and R for religion.
[01:03.080 --> 01:07.160]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.160 --> 01:08.680]  assembly, and religion.
[01:08.680 --> 01:10.640]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.640 --> 01:14.740]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.740 --> 01:18.260]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.260 --> 01:20.960]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.960 --> 01:22.880]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:22.880 --> 01:31.280]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.280 --> 01:34.920]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.920 --> 01:38.400]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.400 --> 01:39.880]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.880 --> 01:43.760]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.760 --> 01:46.900]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.900 --> 01:48.480]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.480 --> 01:52.120]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.120 --> 01:56.880]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.880 --> 02:01.920]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.920 --> 02:04.640]  Privacy, it's worth hanging onto.
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[02:14.560 --> 02:20.400]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.400 --> 02:22.480]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.480 --> 02:26.960]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.960 --> 02:30.800]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.800 --> 02:31.800]  Get it?
[02:31.800 --> 02:34.120]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:34.120 --> 02:37.720]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.720 --> 02:43.480]  when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
[02:43.480 --> 02:47.600]  government, one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America,
[02:47.600 --> 02:50.600]  but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.600 --> 02:52.600]  I'm Dr. Katherine Albrecht.
[02:52.600 --> 03:19.400]  More news and information at KatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:19.400 --> 03:47.200]  I'm Dr. Katherine Albrecht, and I'm going to talk to you about the right to bear arms.
[03:47.200 --> 04:15.000]  I'm Dr. Katherine Albrecht, and I'm going to talk to you about the right to bear arms.
[04:15.000 --> 04:44.960]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio on this, the 12th day of
[04:44.960 --> 04:45.960]  May 2020.
[04:45.960 --> 04:46.960]  What, Brett?
[04:46.960 --> 04:47.960]  What year is this?
[04:47.960 --> 04:48.960]  22.
[04:48.960 --> 04:49.960]  I am turning on the phone lines.
[04:49.960 --> 04:50.960]  If you have a question or a comment, give us a call.
[04:50.960 --> 04:51.960]  We'll be taking your calls all night.
[04:51.960 --> 04:52.960]  And I want to start out with what I'm doing with Victoria County.
[04:52.960 --> 04:53.960]  Victoria County.
[04:53.960 --> 04:54.960]  Victoria County.
[04:54.960 --> 04:55.960]  Victoria County.
[04:55.960 --> 04:56.960]  Victoria County.
[04:56.960 --> 05:15.960]  Victoria County.
[05:15.960 --> 05:25.960]  First thing Monday morning, I will be filing a lawsuit against the justice of the peace
[05:25.960 --> 05:30.400]  because he did not take my complaints and issue a warrant.
[05:30.400 --> 05:37.640]  And I have a fellow in Victoria County who lives there who is going to go to this same
[05:37.640 --> 05:45.200]  justice of the peace and file some criminal charges against some other public officials.
[05:45.200 --> 05:52.680]  And I will be sending him my criminal complaints so that the justice of the peace will see
[05:52.680 --> 05:59.120]  these complaints and they are in the exact same format.
[05:59.120 --> 06:05.000]  So he'll recognize they're from me and he'll be pretty sure I sent this guy there.
[06:05.000 --> 06:11.680]  Because this particular guy was a good friend of Dr. DeRouzo, the guy they went after that
[06:11.680 --> 06:14.240]  I'm there to help.
[06:14.240 --> 06:19.160]  And he'll know that guy is connected through Dr. DeRouzo to me.
[06:19.160 --> 06:27.040]  I have filed criminal charges against the JP with the district judge, the JP and the
[06:27.040 --> 06:29.760]  chief of police.
[06:29.760 --> 06:36.120]  And I have no evidence that the district judge issued a warrant as he is commanded to do
[06:36.120 --> 06:40.220]  by 15.09 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure.
[06:40.220 --> 06:45.160]  So I'm filing criminal charges, I'll be filing against the judge, the district judge
[06:45.160 --> 06:51.240]  as well with another district judge.
[06:51.240 --> 07:00.420]  And the district judge, he's probably already seen the tort letter I sent to the justice
[07:00.420 --> 07:06.460]  of the peace, he will get that same tort letter.
[07:06.460 --> 07:13.280]  And then he'll get the tort letter and I'll file a lawsuit against the justice of the
[07:13.280 --> 07:20.920]  peace in his personal capacity.
[07:20.920 --> 07:32.800]  And I'm hoping the district judge recognizes the irony in me going after him for not doing
[07:32.800 --> 07:35.720]  what I'm going after the JP for not doing.
[07:35.720 --> 07:38.160]  Oh, you know, he's going to appreciate that.
[07:38.160 --> 07:44.320]  He's just going to think that's great, like poetic justice.
[07:44.320 --> 07:51.720]  I hope they get the irony that I played them like a cheap fiddle.
[07:51.720 --> 08:00.280]  Then I'll start walking down all of the district judges in Victoria County, one after the other.
[08:00.280 --> 08:07.480]  Criminal complaint they ignore, a tort letter they ignore, then I file a civil suit against
[08:07.480 --> 08:10.880]  them, one right after the other.
[08:10.880 --> 08:16.000]  And by the time I get to the last district judge, he's going to know precisely what's
[08:16.000 --> 08:19.160]  coming at him.
[08:19.160 --> 08:26.440]  The point here is you guys don't want to do your job, you want to protect your buddies
[08:26.440 --> 08:34.200]  and keep the criminal justice system as your personal playground.
[08:34.200 --> 08:40.480]  You'll see how that works out for you, Bubba, and they will know for sure that I am deliberately
[08:40.480 --> 08:45.960]  setting them up so I can hammer them and sue them personally.
[08:45.960 --> 08:48.160]  So what do you do?
[08:48.160 --> 08:57.080]  Do you step out from behind this thin blue line and act in accordance with black letter
[08:57.080 --> 09:04.920]  law, or do you scoot out behind this thin blue line and get sued personally like these
[09:04.920 --> 09:08.080]  other guys?
[09:08.080 --> 09:10.920]  Your call.
[09:10.920 --> 09:22.560]  If we are to take this system back, we need to get serious, get down to business.
[09:22.560 --> 09:31.120]  We need to take them on and take them on in a way to have very little methodology or ways
[09:31.120 --> 09:35.920]  to slink out from under us.
[09:35.920 --> 09:44.140]  We want them to know that we are deliberately setting them up to get them to do what they
[09:44.140 --> 09:47.480]  normally do so we can hammer them.
[09:47.480 --> 09:53.720]  I'm hoping that all my listeners will start doing the same thing.
[09:53.720 --> 09:56.920]  We have a bunch of callers already on the board.
[09:56.920 --> 10:05.920]  We've got Greg from California, hello Greg, what do you have for us today?
[10:05.920 --> 10:09.260]  Hi Randy, can you hear me?
[10:09.260 --> 10:10.960]  I can hear you.
[10:10.960 --> 10:11.960]  Great.
[10:11.960 --> 10:26.000]  Well, I took your advice and I decided to go out and set some people up and it worked.
[10:26.000 --> 10:34.440]  I went to a movie, I went to go to a movie and the movie was in a small town and it just
[10:34.440 --> 10:44.920]  so happened that this movie was free and was being promoted and sponsored by the County
[10:44.920 --> 10:54.000]  Office of Education for our county here, Sonoma County.
[10:54.000 --> 11:04.000]  The movie was for teenagers and it was called Aged Resiliency and Something, the title.
[11:04.000 --> 11:11.880]  They invited members of the community, teenagers, parents, whatever to go see this free movie
[11:11.880 --> 11:19.260]  and it just so happened that since it was sponsored by the County Office of Education,
[11:19.260 --> 11:27.480]  they wanted the people who were going to go see this film to sign up on the county's website
[11:27.480 --> 11:35.240]  and agree to the terms and conditions of the theater, which in this case was asking for
[11:35.240 --> 11:46.400]  verification of vaccination for a negative test in the last three days and you must wear
[11:46.400 --> 11:51.080]  a mask with either one of those as well.
[11:51.080 --> 11:58.720]  So I went there and I went there with a legal notice in my hand and there were a group of
[11:58.720 --> 11:59.720]  us there actually.
[11:59.720 --> 12:05.840]  We were standing outside the theater and one of the employees of the theater immediately
[12:05.840 --> 12:15.040]  called the police on us and in this small town, it just so happened the police department
[12:15.040 --> 12:19.840]  was literally across the street, so the sergeant walked across the street, walked into the
[12:19.840 --> 12:24.880]  theater and spoke to the person that called the police on us, came out and said what we
[12:24.880 --> 12:28.880]  were doing was fine as long as we don't cause any disruptions and he doesn't want to come
[12:28.880 --> 12:29.880]  back.
[12:29.880 --> 12:37.560]  He left, went back to his station and I got in line and there were two people in front
[12:37.560 --> 12:38.560]  of me.
[12:38.560 --> 12:40.560]  They let those two people in.
[12:40.560 --> 12:44.120]  They had a little ask them questions, whatever.
[12:44.120 --> 12:52.560]  As I stepped, I had one foot at the threshold and as I began to walk in, one of the employees
[12:52.560 --> 13:00.320]  pushed me out the door and said I didn't belong in there and this was caught on video.
[13:00.320 --> 13:08.080]  It was shocking to have experienced a battery and there was no discussion.
[13:08.080 --> 13:09.320]  They asked no questions.
[13:09.320 --> 13:14.320]  They didn't know who I was, they didn't ask me if I had an RSVP.
[13:14.320 --> 13:23.400]  She jumped out the door and said I didn't belong in there and so I obviously was shocked
[13:23.400 --> 13:24.800]  and I said did you guys see that?
[13:24.800 --> 13:31.800]  I was just assaulted and I didn't really know exactly what to do at that moment, so I turned
[13:31.800 --> 13:36.920]  back and she went in to call the police again.
[13:36.920 --> 13:43.240]  In the meantime, there was a larger fellow stood with his back to me at the door, blocking
[13:43.240 --> 13:47.200]  me from entering.
[13:47.200 --> 13:53.400]  It turns out that the fellow who was blocking the door was an employee of the county office
[13:53.400 --> 13:54.400]  of education.
[13:54.400 --> 14:03.760]  In fact, he was the director of behavioral and health sciences and he had his first name
[14:03.760 --> 14:07.960]  on his name tag, but he would not answer any questions, he would not move out of the way.
[14:07.960 --> 14:11.800]  I didn't want to touch my body with his body because I was afraid I was going to get a
[14:11.800 --> 14:14.080]  battery charge on me.
[14:14.080 --> 14:18.520]  I then decided to not try to answer any longer.
[14:18.520 --> 14:24.080]  I went across the street, showed the video to the sergeant and he wrote a criminal battery
[14:24.080 --> 14:31.680]  charge on the woman who battered me and she has an arraignment court date in July for
[14:31.680 --> 14:35.240]  that criminal battery.
[14:35.240 --> 14:41.800]  I found out that the person that was standing at the door blocking me from entering was
[14:41.800 --> 14:51.120]  a Sonoma County office of education employee later, so I went down to the office of education
[14:51.120 --> 14:57.080]  to try to get a government tort claim and file a tort claim against them and they said
[14:57.080 --> 15:03.200]  they had no idea what that was, that I could only file what's called a uniform complaint
[15:03.200 --> 15:09.040]  procedure complaint, which is an in-house, in their system complaint procedure which
[15:09.040 --> 15:15.800]  they could simply just turn around and deny any wrongdoing.
[15:15.800 --> 15:25.360]  I was later called by the head of human resources and I said well first we should identify that
[15:25.360 --> 15:31.040]  we both know the man I'm speaking of and I gave the description of this man and his first
[15:31.040 --> 15:36.000]  and last name and he said well there are so many people with that name here that I really
[15:36.000 --> 15:39.960]  can't identify him positively.
[15:39.960 --> 15:48.200]  He was a unique looking man and he had a unique name and that further aggravated me so I left
[15:48.200 --> 15:49.200]  there.
[15:49.200 --> 15:55.480]  You're telling me to get all of those people with that very unique name to come over here.
[15:55.480 --> 16:03.360]  Well they didn't want to do that so I went back to the police station and filed false
[16:03.360 --> 16:08.840]  imprisonment charges against him and they wouldn't cite him but they said they would
[16:08.840 --> 16:14.520]  just file the report and send it to the district attorney for review and then I later had to
[16:14.520 --> 16:18.520]  go for a photo lineup and pick out the guy in a photo lineup.
[16:18.520 --> 16:23.360]  Now this guy was wearing a mask but I did do a little online research so it was pretty
[16:23.360 --> 16:25.760]  easy for me to recognize him.
[16:25.760 --> 16:36.440]  So now what we have is what I think it would be a 42 1983 lawsuit and we're going to jump
[16:36.440 --> 16:37.440]  off the cliff.
[16:37.440 --> 16:38.440]  Don't do that.
[16:38.440 --> 16:39.440]  You did it perfect.
[16:39.440 --> 16:44.440]  That way Randy can be the one to go off the cliff.
[16:44.440 --> 16:48.720]  That's better than me.
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[19:38.600 --> 20:05.000]  Okay, we are back, Randy Catton with LogosRadio and Greg, you're why we do this show.
[20:05.000 --> 20:06.640]  You set them up.
[20:06.640 --> 20:13.320]  They have to know that they've been led down the garden path.
[20:13.320 --> 20:23.080]  This is as professional and effective treatment of public officials, I think, as I have seen.
[20:23.080 --> 20:33.440]  How does it feel to be played like a cheap fiddle, Father?
[20:33.440 --> 20:40.800]  Okay, you actually had this guy brought into a lineup?
[20:40.800 --> 20:51.720]  They had a photo lineup, not a physical lineup and yeah, I did identify him and of course,
[20:51.720 --> 20:56.200]  the sergeant that did the photo lineup, I said, well, where did you get all these photographs?
[20:56.200 --> 20:59.880]  They were all the same guy, like they look like the same guy.
[20:59.880 --> 21:05.880]  They were all redheaded people and redheaded men and of course, I identified him, but he
[21:05.880 --> 21:11.440]  did have the last piece of paper in there was the eight guys with all their names on
[21:11.440 --> 21:12.440]  it.
[21:12.440 --> 21:16.480]  He says, you're not supposed to see that and he flips it over, upside down, but I'd already
[21:16.480 --> 21:21.920]  had pulled the guy out of the photo lineup and identified him, but there's another interesting
[21:21.920 --> 21:27.720]  kid that had to work hard to find people that looked like this guy.
[21:27.720 --> 21:28.720]  They did.
[21:28.720 --> 21:38.920]  Wait a minute, everybody else listening, consider what it took.
[21:38.920 --> 21:45.000]  I got to say, this sergeant is probably on your side.
[21:45.000 --> 21:49.440]  You got people in there, you know, I know a lot of policemen.
[21:49.440 --> 21:58.000]  I don't know a single one who became a policeman so that he could be a jackbooted duck.
[21:58.000 --> 22:06.280]  They want to be the good guys and it sounds like you went in there and set them up.
[22:06.280 --> 22:13.760]  You gave them absolutely nothing to work with and the sergeant recognized something's going
[22:13.760 --> 22:14.760]  on here.
[22:14.760 --> 22:20.680]  I said, we got some guys in here who know what they're doing and he didn't want to get
[22:20.680 --> 22:28.280]  in the middle of it, but for the police to create a lineup, they didn't just blow you
[22:28.280 --> 22:31.280]  off.
[22:31.280 --> 22:34.000]  This is incredible.
[22:34.000 --> 22:38.720]  He wanted to blow me off and he said, false imprisonment now.
[22:38.720 --> 22:40.760]  He asked me, could you leave?
[22:40.760 --> 22:47.000]  I said, well, sure I could leave, but he's blocking a public accommodation and I asked
[22:47.000 --> 22:51.160]  him, I said, well, what if I block you on the sidewalk?
[22:51.160 --> 22:53.200]  I said, is that false imprisonment?
[22:53.200 --> 22:58.240]  He says, well, he said, yeah, that would be considered, but I always think of false imprisonment
[22:58.240 --> 23:05.320]  as you grab and hold on to somebody, so let's look the statute up and he looks it up and
[23:05.320 --> 23:12.400]  he says, right there, restricting the liberty of movement of somebody, right?
[23:12.400 --> 23:15.040]  So if you block somebody, that's false imprisonment.
[23:15.040 --> 23:21.720]  So he agreed to do that and where it became interesting was when I went back down to the
[23:21.720 --> 23:27.080]  district office and talked to the superintendent who said he didn't know anything about what
[23:27.080 --> 23:29.600]  it had transpired, but you know what?
[23:29.600 --> 23:30.600]  He already had a defense.
[23:30.600 --> 23:39.520]  He says, well, listen, in state law for education, so we actually have an education code, I suppose
[23:39.520 --> 23:46.560]  every state does, if the school district is involved in an event, if they sponsor an event,
[23:46.560 --> 23:49.680]  it becomes equivalent to a school.
[23:49.680 --> 23:54.880]  So he had a right to block the door because he was protecting children.
[23:54.880 --> 23:56.480]  That's what he said to me.
[23:56.480 --> 24:03.680]  Now isn't this a classic deprivation of rights under the color of law, Kate?
[24:03.680 --> 24:06.880]  That's what it sounds like to me.
[24:06.880 --> 24:16.600]  One thing before I lose the track, I would suggest is that you write a letter to the,
[24:16.600 --> 24:21.320]  was this a municipal police department or a county?
[24:21.320 --> 24:22.320]  Municipal.
[24:22.320 --> 24:32.880]  Write a letter to the mayor expressing your appreciation for the police without regard
[24:32.880 --> 24:36.880]  to whether or not you were white or you were wrong.
[24:36.880 --> 24:45.120]  This sergeant took great pains to ensure that you at least had the impression that they
[24:45.120 --> 24:53.920]  were actively enforcing law without regard to whom they were enforcing it against.
[24:53.920 --> 25:00.940]  You know, we're real quick to complain about public officials and of all places you come
[25:00.940 --> 25:07.020]  to this show and you know, we are the epitome of going after public officials.
[25:07.020 --> 25:16.120]  On the other hand, when they do what they're supposed to, we need to be just as quick to
[25:16.120 --> 25:23.040]  compliment them and show our appreciation for their dedication to do it right.
[25:23.040 --> 25:24.040]  Yeah.
[25:24.040 --> 25:25.240]  I was wondering where you were going with that Randy.
[25:25.240 --> 25:29.600]  You were saying to give him some kind of commendation about what he did right and I was thinking,
[25:29.600 --> 25:32.720]  well, I didn't hear him, what did he do right?
[25:32.720 --> 25:36.440]  And then you said, oh, he at least gave us the impression.
[25:36.440 --> 25:40.280]  And I thought, well, okay, I can go with that.
[25:40.280 --> 25:44.880]  He had in front of him, why not for crying out loud?
[25:44.880 --> 25:49.760]  So he didn't just blow you off and just refuse to do anything.
[25:49.760 --> 25:54.560]  You know, this is what we show is, is you ask somebody to do something, they don't do
[25:54.560 --> 25:55.560]  it.
[25:55.560 --> 25:56.560]  Yeah, usually.
[25:56.560 --> 25:59.140]  Then you get to go after them.
[25:59.140 --> 26:06.520]  If you ask somebody to do something and they do do it wonderful, but that doesn't happen
[26:06.520 --> 26:15.560]  often and you're in of all places, California, it's giving me the impression that something's
[26:15.560 --> 26:24.740]  going on under the, you know, out of the public focus that we should know about.
[26:24.740 --> 26:33.000]  You have policemen here who are actually seem to be trying to follow law the way it's supposed
[26:33.000 --> 26:34.000]  to be.
[26:34.000 --> 26:39.240]  And it tells me not everybody's a bad guy.
[26:39.240 --> 26:46.400]  We don't assume that this policeman is your enemy just because he's a policeman.
[26:46.400 --> 26:50.200]  Sounds like you may have some people who are actually trying to do it right and you're
[26:50.200 --> 26:55.520]  giving them the opportunity to do it right.
[26:55.520 --> 27:02.320]  And when they do do it right, they should get all sorts of accolades.
[27:02.320 --> 27:07.360]  If we're really quick to file professional conduct complaints and bar grievances, we
[27:07.360 --> 27:13.560]  should be just as quick to file a letter of commendation.
[27:13.560 --> 27:17.360]  Does that make sense?
[27:17.360 --> 27:20.400]  Yes, it does.
[27:20.400 --> 27:26.400]  It's another dope low down dirty rotten tactic.
[27:26.400 --> 27:35.240]  And how can you talk bad about you when you're talking good about them?
[27:35.240 --> 27:40.160]  Now that was a sinister laugh.
[27:40.160 --> 27:44.440]  That is exactly the kind of laugh I like to hear.
[27:44.440 --> 27:49.600]  Yes, because you're drawing politics into it in a different way.
[27:49.600 --> 27:52.200]  And I think that's a good idea.
[27:52.200 --> 27:57.720]  And they were very conscientious about doing their job.
[27:57.720 --> 28:04.300]  In fact, each guy has a business card and they say scan this QR code and give us a review.
[28:04.300 --> 28:11.120]  They want a review of their behavior for some reason after each of these events.
[28:11.120 --> 28:16.000]  But there were two sergeants involved and all this was on videotape, by the way.
[28:16.000 --> 28:18.400]  This was all caught on camera.
[28:18.400 --> 28:22.560]  Let me give you an observation.
[28:22.560 --> 28:32.000]  I was stopped recently by a policeman and I really gave him a hard time.
[28:32.000 --> 28:39.120]  I didn't challenge him, but he said, you don't have a registration sticker on your window.
[28:39.120 --> 28:41.600]  I said, yeah, no.
[28:41.600 --> 28:44.160]  He said, well, do you have a registration on this vehicle?
[28:44.160 --> 28:45.160]  Oh yeah.
[28:45.160 --> 28:46.160]  Oh yeah.
[28:46.160 --> 28:47.160]  Well, where is it?
[28:47.160 --> 28:48.160]  Oh, it's over there in the glove compartment.
[28:48.160 --> 28:51.040]  Well, why didn't you put it on the window?
[28:51.040 --> 28:54.040]  I didn't want to.
[28:54.040 --> 28:57.040]  He said, well, you show it to me.
[28:57.040 --> 28:58.040]  No.
[28:58.040 --> 29:04.200]  So you're a cop, you pull the sky over and you're in his position.
[29:04.200 --> 29:05.200]  What would you think?
[29:05.200 --> 29:10.720]  Someone jerked you out of the car and beat you into unconsciousness.
[29:10.720 --> 29:15.920]  He said, well, Michelle, I'll have to write you a ticket.
[29:15.920 --> 29:16.920]  Oh, okay.
[29:16.920 --> 29:17.920]  Okay.
[29:17.920 --> 29:18.920]  That'll work.
[29:18.920 --> 29:19.920]  Go ahead.
[29:19.920 --> 29:20.920]  Go ahead.
[29:20.920 --> 29:30.200]  And he sat in there looking at me and he never once lost his composure in the slightest.
[29:30.200 --> 29:34.120]  Now I could see that he was extremely tense.
[29:34.120 --> 29:40.520]  He's a macho guy and he's clearly the kind of guy that's used to having his way, but
[29:40.520 --> 29:48.920]  something was holding him back and I've had several people call into the show and comment
[29:48.920 --> 29:58.160]  about how professional and polite the policeman who had pulled him over and given him a ticket
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[33:06.400 --> 33:19.400]  Yeah, Mr. Office, are you taking the line ahead?
[33:19.400 --> 33:25.400]  Won't you follow the law of the land?
[33:25.400 --> 33:30.400]  I don't understand.
[33:30.400 --> 33:37.400]  I don't understand.
[33:37.400 --> 33:45.400]  I don't understand.
[33:45.400 --> 34:00.400]  I don't understand.
[34:00.400 --> 34:15.400]  I don't understand.
[34:15.400 --> 34:30.400]  Okay, we are back.
[34:30.400 --> 34:34.400]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, ruleoflawradio, and I was talking to Brett over the break
[34:34.400 --> 34:40.400]  and I'm wondering, Brett, who are you?
[34:40.400 --> 34:50.560]  There's something going on here, you have apparently handled this within a plum that
[34:50.560 --> 34:58.260]  takes a level of sophistication that you don't normally get.
[34:58.260 --> 35:04.200]  Not right away, it takes a little, people tend to need to get their sea legs under them
[35:04.200 --> 35:06.520]  before they can handle it the way you did.
[35:06.520 --> 35:14.280]  Yeah, you sound like the kind of thing that I do, but I've been doing this for 30 years.
[35:14.280 --> 35:20.960]  I've learned a lot, you know, three dislocated ribs, two broken collar bones, a broken elbow,
[35:20.960 --> 35:25.080]  the tooth knocked out, my lungs, several other things.
[35:25.080 --> 35:32.000]  I learned over the years how to conduct myself with somewhat more of a plum.
[35:32.000 --> 35:41.320]  And the way you handle yourself is surprising, who the heck are you?
[35:41.320 --> 35:45.640]  Well I've been listening to you, Randy.
[35:45.640 --> 35:50.080]  Listening to me is different than being drug out of the courthouse by two bailiffs the
[35:50.080 --> 35:55.680]  third time you call 911 on them, picked up and thrown down so your face hits the concrete
[35:55.680 --> 35:56.680]  first.
[35:56.680 --> 36:03.080]  You can sit down at the door, knock down, get your elbow broke, go into the FBI to file
[36:03.080 --> 36:11.240]  criminal complaints against the DPS and the FBI arrests you.
[36:11.240 --> 36:18.560]  I am surprised at your level of sophistication, you're not being, you know, this guy blocked
[36:18.560 --> 36:28.720]  you and you had enough decorum not to give him anything he could work with, as clearly
[36:28.720 --> 36:37.320]  he was trying to get you to do something so that he could have a counter charge of assault.
[36:37.320 --> 36:41.420]  If you'd have crowded him or touched him in any way, he would have been able to counter
[36:41.420 --> 36:47.680]  claim against you, but you knew enough not to do that.
[36:47.680 --> 36:54.040]  That's a level of sophistication that frankly is surprising.
[36:54.040 --> 36:58.920]  I'm hoping that we get a botanist.
[36:58.920 --> 37:05.040]  He probably didn't know that you were going to be that aware, he probably figured he could
[37:05.040 --> 37:08.040]  get you to touch him.
[37:08.040 --> 37:28.760]  And you mentioned that the police solicited letters from the public about their behavior.
[37:28.760 --> 37:39.480]  That tells me this, all of these George Floyd riots, you know, in Austin, the city of Austin
[37:39.480 --> 37:45.560]  cut back the police budget $180 million.
[37:45.560 --> 37:51.480]  The murder rate in Austin has almost doubled.
[37:51.480 --> 38:02.400]  The police have clearly been instructed to be, to take great pains to keep the public
[38:02.400 --> 38:06.280]  happy and satisfied with it.
[38:06.280 --> 38:14.400]  And with the police asking for feedback, it's clear that they want you to tell their bosses
[38:14.400 --> 38:21.200]  that they're conducting themselves in a way that's making the public happy.
[38:21.200 --> 38:26.640]  That tells me that we are in a special time here.
[38:26.640 --> 38:34.400]  I think we're at a time to where if we handle ourselves right, we can return to a position
[38:34.400 --> 38:41.880]  to where we are partners with the police and where the police stopped treating us as a
[38:41.880 --> 38:46.660]  civilian in an occupied country.
[38:46.660 --> 38:53.520]  I was in the military in an occupied country and I dealt with civilians.
[38:53.520 --> 39:00.240]  And I watched the police here for the last 20 years treating me like I was a civilian
[39:00.240 --> 39:03.880]  in an occupied country.
[39:03.880 --> 39:09.880]  And to say that offended me was an incredible understatement.
[39:09.880 --> 39:16.880]  I had Pastor Massad, he was introducing me to someone once, and he told them, whatever
[39:16.880 --> 39:22.680]  you do, do not call Mr. Kelton a civilian, he will get real excited.
[39:22.680 --> 39:27.300]  And he was right, I do get excited about that.
[39:27.300 --> 39:39.520]  What I see happening now, while those riots and all the trouble that occurred was reprehensible,
[39:39.520 --> 39:47.160]  it did have a positive effect and we have an opportunity here to bring the police around
[39:47.160 --> 39:48.160]  our side.
[39:48.160 --> 39:57.480]  And what you were saying gave me the impression that the police were asking you to do that.
[39:57.480 --> 40:04.080]  We're asking you to confirm that, yes, we are here working together and not at odds
[40:04.080 --> 40:05.080]  with each other.
[40:05.080 --> 40:07.080]  Does that make sense, Greg?
[40:07.080 --> 40:14.160]  Well, yes, it does, and that's the impression that I got from them as well.
[40:14.160 --> 40:24.580]  But I can also say that both sergeants that I spoke to seemed to have an understanding
[40:24.580 --> 40:28.720]  that if I were to have walked inside the theater without a mask on, that they could have filed
[40:28.720 --> 40:35.160]  criminal charges against me, so they still don't understand the difference between what's
[40:35.160 --> 40:40.220]  legal and lawful and what is not for public accommodation.
[40:40.220 --> 40:47.440]  So had I gone in there or had I pushed myself into the building, then I would have a criminal
[40:47.440 --> 40:57.000]  complaint filed against me, in which case it would have still ended up as a 1983 action
[40:57.000 --> 41:02.600]  because the state would have involved itself and they just didn't want to do that.
[41:02.600 --> 41:05.960]  The police didn't want to be involved in that action.
[41:05.960 --> 41:13.400]  They knew better, which I found interesting because the other municipal police, they actually
[41:13.400 --> 41:14.920]  did involve themselves.
[41:14.920 --> 41:24.880]  I've actually faced police eight times in my city over masks, over trespass, and eight
[41:24.880 --> 41:30.560]  times they were wrong, and eight times they had eight different answers, and this time
[41:30.560 --> 41:37.580]  it was just I think I had repeated the same exercise enough that I knew what I could do
[41:37.580 --> 41:43.160]  and couldn't do, and that's what the action showed.
[41:43.160 --> 41:48.160]  So you're saying this was not your first rodeo.
[41:48.160 --> 41:49.160]  No.
[41:49.160 --> 41:56.480]  And this is what I hope everybody out there listening gets.
[41:56.480 --> 42:01.600]  The first time you walk into one of these situations, it is terrifying because you don't
[42:01.600 --> 42:04.600]  know what the heck is going on.
[42:04.600 --> 42:12.360]  You go to school and they teach you all this crap all about law and your rights, but while
[42:12.360 --> 42:18.580]  they're teaching you about all these rights that you have, they're at the same time demonstrating
[42:18.580 --> 42:22.640]  to you, you don't even think about trying to enforce one of those rights.
[42:22.640 --> 42:26.280]  The whole way to the system will land right square on your head.
[42:26.280 --> 42:33.360]  So we go into the courts and we have this initial terror, and it takes a few times of
[42:33.360 --> 42:43.040]  standing up and taking them on before you figure out it's all a sham.
[42:43.040 --> 42:50.120]  Greg, if I'm not out of line, how old are you?
[42:50.120 --> 42:51.120]  62.
[42:51.120 --> 42:52.120]  That's bits.
[42:52.120 --> 42:53.120]  No, I'm 72.
[42:53.120 --> 43:05.120]  My kids are grown, and my son's got two PhDs, my daughter's got a master's in accounting.
[43:05.120 --> 43:08.280]  I have fulfilled my contract with life.
[43:08.280 --> 43:11.240]  My house is paid for, my car is paid for.
[43:11.240 --> 43:14.400]  I don't owe anybody squat.
[43:14.400 --> 43:18.880]  I can go out here and do these things, and that fits that you're of an age that you're
[43:18.880 --> 43:24.760]  the same way, that you fulfilled your contract with life, now you can come out here and fight
[43:24.760 --> 43:27.760]  these guys.
[43:27.760 --> 43:29.720]  That is incredibly encouraging.
[43:29.720 --> 43:30.720]  Hang on.
[43:30.720 --> 43:37.160]  I know we've used up nearly an hour with you, but this is absolutely worth it.
[43:37.160 --> 43:39.920]  This is why we do this show.
[43:39.920 --> 43:45.040]  I thought you were going to say something else.
[43:45.040 --> 43:46.040]  Hang on.
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[46:14.720 --> 46:24.200]  If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one?
[46:24.200 --> 46:29.200]  If you could not wait any bout too long, would your perfect test be done?
[46:29.200 --> 46:32.200]  Such a sentiment of soldier or warrior heart's lost, scaffolding their keys to the peace.
[46:32.200 --> 46:37.200]  All it's taking is a misunderstanding, when somebody calls the police, you're watching
[46:37.200 --> 46:38.200]  the spotlight.
[46:38.200 --> 46:45.200]  You're watching the spotlight.
[46:45.200 --> 46:53.200]  You're watching the spotlight.
[46:53.200 --> 47:02.200]  You're watching the spotlight.
[47:02.200 --> 47:09.200]  The first time there's an addiction, the hard work can leave you cold as nails.
[47:09.200 --> 47:14.200]  There's impossibility to tranquility, heavy loads of tape and unscathed.
[47:14.200 --> 47:20.200]  The time is colliding with the context, you find out after a while.
[47:20.200 --> 47:25.200]  It's not your moral standard, it's your patience that's on trial.
[47:25.200 --> 47:31.200]  Watching the spotlight.
[47:31.200 --> 47:36.200]  We are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Greg
[47:36.200 --> 47:44.200]  in California, and now I understand a little more about why you are where you're at.
[47:44.200 --> 47:51.200]  When I was younger, I was a lot more volatile, and I didn't understand a lot.
[47:51.200 --> 48:00.200]  I know the children, when my kids got 17 or 18, they thought they knew everything, and
[48:00.200 --> 48:05.200]  they thought their parents were absolutely, totally ignorant.
[48:05.200 --> 48:12.200]  I told them, you know, kids, guys, I was your age once.
[48:12.200 --> 48:18.200]  Then I got older, and I learned more stuff, and I got older, and I learned more stuff.
[48:18.200 --> 48:23.200]  Contrary to popular misconception, I didn't forget all that stuff.
[48:23.200 --> 48:28.200]  As we get older, we get far more sophisticated.
[48:28.200 --> 48:37.200]  In this culture, the older population is not treated with the dignity and respect that
[48:37.200 --> 48:44.200]  they are treated with in most older, sophisticated cultures.
[48:44.200 --> 48:49.200]  I'm hoping we can get back to some of that, and Greg, you're kind of an example.
[48:49.200 --> 48:53.200]  Okay, so where are we at now, Greg?
[48:53.200 --> 48:56.200]  What are you up to?
[48:56.200 --> 49:06.200]  Well, my next step is to, in California, you are required to use the government tort claim
[49:06.200 --> 49:13.200]  form of the agency that violated you so they can send it to their risk management group
[49:13.200 --> 49:18.200]  to have it denied before you can file an actual tort claim against them.
[49:18.200 --> 49:28.200]  Hold on a second. That sounds very similar to most every other state that I've been to,
[49:28.200 --> 49:30.200]  that I've looked at.
[49:30.200 --> 49:35.200]  In most every state, if you have a claim against a public official,
[49:35.200 --> 49:39.200]  you must give them notice of your claim.
[49:39.200 --> 49:44.200]  It is generally called a tort letter.
[49:44.200 --> 49:55.200]  And in civil litigation, you must give someone 30 days notice, 30 days notice and opportunity to cure.
[49:55.200 --> 50:02.200]  Under the Uniform Commercial Code, that's what it's called, notice of harm and opportunity to cure.
[50:02.200 --> 50:09.200]  But if it's a governmental agency, in the Uniform Commercial Code, they have 30 days.
[50:09.200 --> 50:15.200]  For governmental agencies, they have 60 days to respond.
[50:15.200 --> 50:25.200]  So what you're speaking to sounds like the same thing in a different setting.
[50:25.200 --> 50:28.200]  Yeah, absolutely, every time they're going to deny everything.
[50:28.200 --> 50:32.200]  But it's one of those technical steps you always have to take.
[50:32.200 --> 50:38.200]  So if you have a claim against a governmental agency, give them notice and opportunity.
[50:38.200 --> 50:44.200]  I suggest that when you give notice and opportunity, instead of just sending them a letter,
[50:44.200 --> 50:47.200]  that you start out by writing your lawsuit.
[50:47.200 --> 50:51.200]  You write your first draft of your lawsuit.
[50:51.200 --> 50:59.200]  And then you take the court heading off the top and change it to a business letter heading.
[50:59.200 --> 51:11.200]  On the bottom, where you have a prayer in a lawsuit, and prayer in this context doesn't mean you're praying to someone.
[51:11.200 --> 51:15.200]  It means you're asking.
[51:15.200 --> 51:18.200]  In Old English, you say, pray thee.
[51:18.200 --> 51:21.200]  And pray thee means I'm asking you.
[51:21.200 --> 51:25.200]  So in the prayer, this is what you're asking for.
[51:25.200 --> 51:32.200]  You turn this into notice of harm and notice that I've been harmed in this amount
[51:32.200 --> 51:39.200]  and demand that they give you cure in a certain amount.
[51:39.200 --> 51:43.200]  When the lawyers get that, because when you send a tort letter,
[51:43.200 --> 51:46.200]  they're going to send it to their legal department.
[51:46.200 --> 51:49.200]  And the legal department...
[51:49.200 --> 51:51.200]  I apologize for that.
[51:51.200 --> 51:54.200]  I don't know how to work this new phone.
[51:54.200 --> 51:57.200]  They'll send it to their legal department.
[51:57.200 --> 52:03.200]  And the legal department will look at it and say, oh my, this guy's not kidding.
[52:03.200 --> 52:06.200]  He's not just huffing and puffing.
[52:06.200 --> 52:09.200]  This is a lawsuit.
[52:09.200 --> 52:16.200]  So you send them that, all the pieces that were required to be in a lawsuit.
[52:16.200 --> 52:19.200]  That's your first pass through.
[52:19.200 --> 52:24.200]  When they don't respond to it, then you take that, what you've already produced,
[52:24.200 --> 52:30.200]  and you go back to it and make it a...
[52:30.200 --> 52:38.200]  You do your homework and solidify it a little better, and then it becomes your lawsuit.
[52:38.200 --> 52:44.200]  And when the courts blow you off and deny everything,
[52:44.200 --> 52:48.200]  then you take that lawsuit and you adjust it a little more
[52:48.200 --> 52:53.200]  and make it a request for findings of fact.
[52:53.200 --> 52:58.200]  When you demand findings of fact, what you need to do is take your lawsuit
[52:58.200 --> 53:03.200]  and use it as a statement of facts
[53:03.200 --> 53:10.200]  and ask the court to accept your findings of fact and conclusions at law
[53:10.200 --> 53:12.200]  or produce your own.
[53:12.200 --> 53:14.200]  And then when they refuse to,
[53:14.200 --> 53:18.200]  you take your demand for findings of fact and conclusions at law,
[53:18.200 --> 53:22.200]  you make a little more adjustments to it, and it becomes your appeal.
[53:22.200 --> 53:30.200]  So every step you take is a foundation for the next step you're taking.
[53:30.200 --> 53:34.200]  Does that make sense, Greg?
[53:34.200 --> 53:36.200]  Yes, it does.
[53:36.200 --> 53:42.200]  And my question is, should this go directly to federal district court
[53:42.200 --> 53:47.200]  or because it's a state action involved?
[53:47.200 --> 53:50.200]  That's what I want their attorneys to admit,
[53:50.200 --> 53:54.200]  that this was considered a school and that he had to write to block me.
[53:54.200 --> 53:59.200]  I mean, that was what the superintendent said, which I actually have on video, by the way.
[53:59.200 --> 54:04.200]  But he was protecting the children, right?
[54:04.200 --> 54:06.200]  Yeah, but there were no children.
[54:06.200 --> 54:09.200]  There was nobody around.
[54:09.200 --> 54:15.200]  Okay, this goes to politics.
[54:15.200 --> 54:24.200]  We want to think that we live in a land of law that's ruled by statute.
[54:24.200 --> 54:27.200]  Well, yeah, we kind of sort of are.
[54:27.200 --> 54:33.200]  But at the end of the day, everything's political and all politics is local.
[54:33.200 --> 54:44.200]  So when you look at how should I take these guys on, then you look at the politics.
[54:44.200 --> 54:47.200]  I'm taking on Travis County.
[54:47.200 --> 54:53.200]  Travis County is a county that is the seat of government in Texas,
[54:53.200 --> 55:02.200]  and all of the judges are Democrats, the prosecutors are Democrat in a Republican state.
[55:02.200 --> 55:04.200]  So I'm looking at this.
[55:04.200 --> 55:17.200]  All these Democrats are looking at the state going after Biden with a vengeance.
[55:17.200 --> 55:22.200]  And they elected Biden, and all the Republicans said,
[55:22.200 --> 55:28.200]  if you elect Biden, you can expect gas to go to $4 a gallon.
[55:28.200 --> 55:32.200]  That's exactly what it did.
[55:32.200 --> 55:39.200]  They spent all this money, and they essentially wrecked the economy.
[55:39.200 --> 55:49.200]  We can expect at the November elections to take over the House and Senate.
[55:49.200 --> 55:51.200]  We can just see this coming.
[55:51.200 --> 55:54.200]  So look at the politics.
[55:54.200 --> 55:59.200]  Before we get to the feds, we can always get to the feds.
[55:59.200 --> 56:02.200]  You go to the feds first, you use that up.
[56:02.200 --> 56:09.200]  How can you use the state to give you more federal claims?
[56:09.200 --> 56:14.200]  You've already set these guys up and walked them down the garden path
[56:14.200 --> 56:18.200]  and got them to give you claims against them.
[56:18.200 --> 56:26.200]  How do you use the state courts to get these state actors to make claims
[56:26.200 --> 56:30.200]  and arguments that they can't back up from?
[56:30.200 --> 56:36.200]  Are you familiar with the concept of collateral estoppel?
[56:36.200 --> 56:39.200]  No.
[56:39.200 --> 56:46.200]  If I come into court and I make a statement of fact before the court,
[56:46.200 --> 56:50.200]  it can be absolutely false.
[56:50.200 --> 56:52.200]  It doesn't make any difference.
[56:52.200 --> 56:58.200]  If I make that statement in court, I can never come into court
[56:58.200 --> 57:03.200]  and make a statement that varies from that statement.
[57:03.200 --> 57:18.200]  When I was doing foreclosures, I had Wells Fargo come in and make claims
[57:18.200 --> 57:25.200]  against Wells Fargo and they said they were not the holder of the mortgage.
[57:25.200 --> 57:29.200]  Well, according to the record, they were the lender, they were the servicer,
[57:29.200 --> 57:32.200]  and they were the one doing the foreclosure.
[57:32.200 --> 57:34.200]  They said they weren't the holder of the mortgage,
[57:34.200 --> 57:36.200]  so they weren't the right ones to sue.
[57:36.200 --> 57:41.200]  Once they said that, they can never ever come into court
[57:41.200 --> 57:46.200]  and say something different, collateral estoppel.
[57:46.200 --> 57:50.200]  So how do you take these low-level state actors
[57:50.200 --> 57:59.200]  and get them to take a BS position so that when you move up into the Fed,
[57:59.200 --> 58:07.200]  they cannot take a different position that's more accommodating to the Fed?
[58:07.200 --> 58:09.200]  They're stuck with what they do in the bottom.
[58:09.200 --> 58:12.200]  Is this making sense?
[58:12.200 --> 58:14.200]  Yeah, it is.
[58:14.200 --> 58:16.200]  That's an interesting concept.
[58:16.200 --> 58:19.200]  I had never considered that.
[58:19.200 --> 58:21.200]  Let's set them up.
[58:21.200 --> 58:25.200]  Let's walk them down the garden path.
[58:25.200 --> 58:29.200]  Yeah, per se, they're going to think you're ignorant.
[58:29.200 --> 58:33.200]  And these lawyers are incredibly arrogant.
[58:33.200 --> 58:37.200]  If you can get them to look at every position they take,
[58:37.200 --> 58:43.200]  mark it down and put an extra collateral estoppel,
[58:43.200 --> 58:45.200]  they cannot adjust that position.
[58:45.200 --> 58:50.200]  And if, you know, I don't play checkers, I play checkers.
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[01:00:14.200 --> 01:00:18.200]  Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself,
[01:00:18.200 --> 01:00:20.200]  you'll never get it back again.
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[01:00:46.200 --> 01:00:49.200]  They pull back the covers and find a third party there.
[01:00:49.200 --> 01:00:52.200]  He announces, I'm with the military and I'm sleeping here tonight.
[01:00:52.200 --> 01:00:55.200]  That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed
[01:00:55.200 --> 01:00:58.200]  reminds me what the Third Amendment was designed to prevent.
[01:00:58.200 --> 01:01:01.200]  It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers,
[01:01:01.200 --> 01:01:04.200]  a common demand in the days of our Founding Fathers.
[01:01:04.200 --> 01:01:07.200]  Third party, Third Amendment? Get it?
[01:01:07.200 --> 01:01:11.200]  So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging,
[01:01:11.200 --> 01:01:15.200]  tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and re-read the Third Amendment.
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[01:01:23.200 --> 01:01:30.200]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:30.200 --> 01:01:33.200]  They guarantee a specific form of legislation.
[01:01:33.200 --> 01:01:37.200]  It contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:40.200]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:01:40.200 --> 01:01:42.200]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:01:42.200 --> 01:01:45.200]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way
[01:01:45.200 --> 01:01:48.200]  to remember one of your constitutional rights.
[01:01:48.200 --> 01:01:50.200]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:01:50.200 --> 01:01:53.200]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:01:53.200 --> 01:01:58.200]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
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[01:02:31.200 --> 01:02:34.200]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights
[01:02:34.200 --> 01:02:36.200]  in the name of security.
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[01:02:50.200 --> 01:02:54.200]  and use their googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
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[01:02:58.200 --> 01:03:00.200]  The Fourth Amendment
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[01:03:22.200 --> 01:03:30.200]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio on this Thursday, the...
[01:03:30.200 --> 01:03:33.200]  What is it? Is it the 12th day of May?
[01:03:33.200 --> 01:03:35.200]  12th of May.
[01:03:35.200 --> 01:03:40.200]  2022. And we're talking to Greg in California.
[01:03:40.200 --> 01:03:46.200]  And, Greg, I want to bring in, we've got Tina on the line.
[01:03:46.200 --> 01:03:49.200]  Tina's also in California.
[01:03:49.200 --> 01:03:53.200]  And you two need to know each other.
[01:03:53.200 --> 01:03:55.200]  Tina, are you there?
[01:03:55.200 --> 01:03:59.200]  I am here, Randy and Brett. How are you?
[01:03:59.200 --> 01:04:00.200]  We are good.
[01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:02.200]  Doing great.
[01:04:02.200 --> 01:04:07.200]  Tina has delivered a whirlwind to these guys.
[01:04:07.200 --> 01:04:11.200]  On the break, Brett and I were talking about this.
[01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:19.200]  And, Greg, what you're telling me is surprising, especially for California,
[01:04:19.200 --> 01:04:31.200]  that you have a police officer that's taking your complaints against a school board seriously.
[01:04:31.200 --> 01:04:35.200]  Tina, what is your take on that?
[01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:45.200]  Well, I'm very surprised, especially, you know, after my experiences when the police ignored my, you know,
[01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:50.200]  complaints for forgery and with Ted Scarlett's experience.
[01:04:50.200 --> 01:04:54.200]  Where in California are you?
[01:04:54.200 --> 01:05:00.200]  I'm in Sonoma County, and this was in a small town, Sebastopol.
[01:05:00.200 --> 01:05:02.200]  Okay, I know.
[01:05:02.200 --> 01:05:11.200]  Okay, and I've actually spoken to the police chief in Sebastopol probably about five months ago or six months ago
[01:05:11.200 --> 01:05:20.200]  because their officers were harassing people walking into stores that they had been shopping in without masks.
[01:05:20.200 --> 01:05:23.200]  And the officers were trespassing them.
[01:05:23.200 --> 01:05:30.200]  And I called the police chief and told them that that was against the law to do that and that they were open to lawsuits.
[01:05:30.200 --> 01:05:33.200]  And so this is that police department.
[01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:39.200]  And he said that I was wrong and that we just had to agree to disagree.
[01:05:39.200 --> 01:05:41.200]  And I said, listen, I'd like to go down there and show you the law.
[01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:43.200]  And he said, that's not going to happen.
[01:05:43.200 --> 01:05:45.200]  I won't even entertain it.
[01:05:45.200 --> 01:05:46.200]  That's the same police department.
[01:05:46.200 --> 01:05:53.200]  So the sergeants are acting kind of in a different way than the police chief was.
[01:05:53.200 --> 01:06:01.200]  So, you know, and Tina, I know you have listened to you many times on Rule of Law Radio with Randy.
[01:06:01.200 --> 01:06:03.200]  Well, hopefully it was good.
[01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:12.200]  Well, maybe what happened, Greg, is that when you questioned him and stood up to him, he went back behind, you know,
[01:06:12.200 --> 01:06:16.200]  what you said and looked it up and thought, gosh, this guy's right, but I'm not going to admit it,
[01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:21.200]  and then told his sergeants what to do, but he would never admit to you that he was wrong.
[01:06:21.200 --> 01:06:24.200]  That is a possibility.
[01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:28.200]  Let me suggest a possibility.
[01:06:28.200 --> 01:06:33.200]  You have a sergeant here who is actually paying attention to law,
[01:06:33.200 --> 01:06:39.200]  and you have a chief of police who is not paying attention to law.
[01:06:39.200 --> 01:06:50.200]  What would happen if you filed criminal charges against the chief of police with the mayor of the municipality?
[01:06:50.200 --> 01:06:57.200]  And demand that he do his job and issue a warrant against the chief of police.
[01:06:57.200 --> 01:07:04.200]  The mayor is a preacher of politics.
[01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:09.200]  You have a sergeant down here who's actually doing the right thing.
[01:07:09.200 --> 01:07:11.200]  So he might need a promotion?
[01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:12.200]  Yes.
[01:07:12.200 --> 01:07:20.200]  Ta-da!
[01:07:20.200 --> 01:07:25.200]  Earlier, Randy was saying earlier about sending a nice letter,
[01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:29.200]  and I have experience of that which I've brought on the show where, you know,
[01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:37.200]  I was getting a lot of heat from the county clerk at the offices, you know, the court,
[01:07:37.200 --> 01:07:42.200]  and I wrote a complaint letter, a professional conduct complaint.
[01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:47.200]  This is because of what Randy said to do, and then it all changed,
[01:07:47.200 --> 01:07:54.200]  and the next time I called that same person was really nice and exceptionally helpful,
[01:07:54.200 --> 01:08:01.200]  and I wrote, you know, a professional conduct compliment to her supervisor.
[01:08:01.200 --> 01:08:07.200]  Well, ever since then, any time I have a problem, I call this, you know, for this lady,
[01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:11.200]  and I get all the help I need in there.
[01:08:11.200 --> 01:08:13.200]  And you could do the same thing.
[01:08:13.200 --> 01:08:20.200]  You're saying at least he gives the impression, and you could say that it's refreshing to have a sergeant
[01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:26.200]  at least of the public the impression that they're doing the right thing or that they're listening
[01:08:26.200 --> 01:08:28.200]  without saying they are doing it.
[01:08:28.200 --> 01:08:35.200]  You know, you could just cloak it a little bit, but that letter could go a long way.
[01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:38.200]  What county are you in, Tina?
[01:08:38.200 --> 01:08:40.200]  San Luis Obispo County.
[01:08:40.200 --> 01:08:42.200]  Oh, okay.
[01:08:42.200 --> 01:08:45.200]  I'm familiar.
[01:08:45.200 --> 01:08:48.200]  Halfway between LA and San Fran.
[01:08:48.200 --> 01:08:52.200]  Oh, I've been there, yeah.
[01:08:52.200 --> 01:09:02.200]  I personally have had more influence when I filed a compliment,
[01:09:02.200 --> 01:09:07.200]  a commendation letter than when I file complaints.
[01:09:07.200 --> 01:09:11.200]  They expect us to complain all the time.
[01:09:11.200 --> 01:09:20.200]  So you send in a commendation for the three officers that pulled the bad one off of you.
[01:09:20.200 --> 01:09:23.200]  Yeah.
[01:09:23.200 --> 01:09:32.200]  Those commendation letters go in their file and file them their entire career.
[01:09:32.200 --> 01:09:34.200]  The same thing with complaints.
[01:09:34.200 --> 01:09:38.200]  Complaints follow them their entire career.
[01:09:38.200 --> 01:09:43.200]  So we need to do both.
[01:09:43.200 --> 01:09:54.200]  And when you do both, it makes it very difficult for them to vilify you, to demonize you.
[01:09:54.200 --> 01:10:00.200]  When you send letters of recommendation, I had a DPS officer pull over.
[01:10:00.200 --> 01:10:01.200]  He stopped in the road.
[01:10:01.200 --> 01:10:06.200]  I was pulled over on the side of the road tightening up a motor I had in the back of my brand-new Avalanche.
[01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:12.200]  And he stopped in the road as a light misty rain, and he said, do you need any help?
[01:10:12.200 --> 01:10:15.200]  And I told him, no, I've got this motor back here.
[01:10:15.200 --> 01:10:24.200]  And if I scratch this brand-new Avalanche, you're going to be called out for a murder investigation.
[01:10:24.200 --> 01:10:28.200]  And he said, well, okay, I just wanted to see if you needed any help.
[01:10:28.200 --> 01:10:31.200]  And he drove away.
[01:10:31.200 --> 01:10:35.200]  When I got the motor tightened up, I got in the car and I called the sergeant, Sergeant Rankin.
[01:10:35.200 --> 01:10:37.200]  And this guy hated me.
[01:10:37.200 --> 01:10:44.200]  And I told him that I was out here at 730, and I was pulled over tightening up a motor,
[01:10:44.200 --> 01:10:48.200]  and one of your officers stopped in the road and asked me if I needed help.
[01:10:48.200 --> 01:10:50.200]  And he said, well, Mr. Kelton, what's the problem?
[01:10:50.200 --> 01:10:53.200]  Oh, there was no problem at all.
[01:10:53.200 --> 01:11:03.200]  I just wanted you to know how much I appreciated the fact that this officer genuinely stopped to render assistance
[01:11:03.200 --> 01:11:09.200]  and did not use that as an opportunity to try to find a reason to arrest me.
[01:11:09.200 --> 01:11:13.200]  I just wanted you to know how much I appreciated that.
[01:11:13.200 --> 01:11:15.200]  Okay, and that was the end of it.
[01:11:15.200 --> 01:11:19.200]  Two years later, I walked into the JP's office.
[01:11:19.200 --> 01:11:21.200]  There's a whole bunch of DPS in there.
[01:11:21.200 --> 01:11:25.200]  And this big tall guy come up and said, hello, Mr. Kelton.
[01:11:25.200 --> 01:11:28.200]  And I looked up at him, and I'm kind of confused.
[01:11:28.200 --> 01:11:30.200]  And he said, you don't remember me, do you?
[01:11:30.200 --> 01:11:34.200]  I said, no, did you arrest me?
[01:11:34.200 --> 01:11:36.200]  He said, well, no.
[01:11:36.200 --> 01:11:38.200]  And these three or four others said, well, I did.
[01:11:38.200 --> 01:11:39.200]  The other one said, I did.
[01:11:39.200 --> 01:11:42.200]  And the other one said, well, I will.
[01:11:42.200 --> 01:11:44.200]  They all knew me.
[01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:49.200]  Two years later, he saw me in the back of this avalanche just for a couple of minutes,
[01:11:49.200 --> 01:11:58.200]  and he recognized me immediately because I called his sergeant and said something nice about it.
[01:11:58.200 --> 01:12:05.200]  And, you know, I was known to be a real SOB.
[01:12:05.200 --> 01:12:11.200]  The sergeant, my Justice of the Peace told me once, her name was Plum Raspberry,
[01:12:11.200 --> 01:12:16.200]  one of my favorite human beings on the planet, just an absolute sweetheart.
[01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:21.200]  She said, you know, Mr. Kelton, Sergeant Rankin hates you.
[01:12:21.200 --> 01:12:25.200]  I said, yeah, I know.
[01:12:25.200 --> 01:12:28.200]  You don't have a sense of humor.
[01:12:28.200 --> 01:12:34.200]  But saying something nice about him, about this officer,
[01:12:34.200 --> 01:12:40.200]  apparently covered a tremendous amount of weight.
[01:12:40.200 --> 01:12:50.200]  And the more difficulty you give them, the more import a compliment has.
[01:12:50.200 --> 01:12:56.200]  So we should use that as a strategic tool.
[01:12:56.200 --> 01:13:04.200]  How are they going to pick on you when you tell them, when you say nice things about them?
[01:13:04.200 --> 01:13:05.200]  They're some nuts.
[01:13:05.200 --> 01:13:08.200]  Everything's political.
[01:13:08.200 --> 01:13:10.200]  Well, I do have a question, Randy.
[01:13:10.200 --> 01:13:20.200]  You said something very provocative about getting the county, getting the lawyers for the county
[01:13:20.200 --> 01:13:26.200]  to admit something in a state court that they would not admit in the federal court.
[01:13:26.200 --> 01:13:28.200]  I'm not sure what that would be.
[01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:33.200]  I mean, you called that collateral estoppel, and I'm not familiar with that phrase.
[01:13:33.200 --> 01:13:35.200]  I do understand what estoppel is.
[01:13:35.200 --> 01:13:39.200]  That sort of like went a little bit over my head.
[01:13:39.200 --> 01:13:44.200]  Do you have any examples you can give me that would explain that?
[01:13:44.200 --> 01:13:45.200]  Well, let me think.
[01:13:45.200 --> 01:13:48.200]  I had one.
[01:13:48.200 --> 01:14:01.200]  We had a client that Wells Fargo was the lender, Wells Fargo was the servicer,
[01:14:01.200 --> 01:14:07.200]  and Wells Fargo was the one doing the foreclosure.
[01:14:07.200 --> 01:14:15.200]  And the lawyer for Wells Fargo, I filed a challenge to a subject matter jurisdiction
[01:14:15.200 --> 01:14:19.200]  and a petition for declaratory judgment.
[01:14:19.200 --> 01:14:32.200]  And the lawyer said that the case should be dismissed because Wells Fargo was not the lender.
[01:14:32.200 --> 01:14:34.200]  Say what?
[01:14:34.200 --> 01:14:35.200]  I'm sorry.
[01:14:35.200 --> 01:14:39.200]  Wells Fargo was not the holder of the mortgage.
[01:14:39.200 --> 01:14:41.200]  Say what?
[01:14:41.200 --> 01:14:43.200]  Now, they claim they were the lender.
[01:14:43.200 --> 01:14:45.200]  They claim they were the servicer.
[01:14:45.200 --> 01:14:51.200]  They claim they were the ones doing the foreclosure.
[01:14:51.200 --> 01:14:55.200]  But they said they weren't the holder.
[01:14:55.200 --> 01:14:57.200]  Well, they had to be the holder.
[01:14:57.200 --> 01:15:01.200]  You can't foreclose unless you're the holder.
[01:15:01.200 --> 01:15:04.200]  But he said that.
[01:15:04.200 --> 01:15:09.200]  Once he said that, he can never take it back.
[01:15:09.200 --> 01:15:12.200]  So he said he was the holder.
[01:15:12.200 --> 01:15:13.200]  I'm sorry.
[01:15:13.200 --> 01:15:15.200]  He said that Wells Fargo was not the holder of the note.
[01:15:15.200 --> 01:15:22.200]  And I immediately filed a non-suit.
[01:15:22.200 --> 01:15:23.200]  Oh, my goodness.
[01:15:23.200 --> 01:15:25.200]  I made a mistake.
[01:15:25.200 --> 01:15:27.200]  My bad.
[01:15:27.200 --> 01:15:31.200]  I thought Wells Fargo was the holder of the mortgage.
[01:15:31.200 --> 01:15:36.200]  Since they're not the holder of the mortgage, a non-suit.
[01:15:36.200 --> 01:15:41.200]  But what that did was lock in collateral estoppel.
[01:15:41.200 --> 01:15:46.200]  They can never, ever say they are the holder of the note again.
[01:15:46.200 --> 01:15:49.200]  They said they were the holder of the note.
[01:15:49.200 --> 01:15:53.200]  If I didn't do anything, they could correct that.
[01:15:53.200 --> 01:15:58.200]  But they said they were the holder of the note, so I did a non-suit.
[01:15:58.200 --> 01:16:04.200]  Once I did the non-suit, they were locked in.
[01:16:04.200 --> 01:16:09.200]  Because they said they were not the holder, I non-suited.
[01:16:09.200 --> 01:16:15.200]  So now they can never say they are the holder again.
[01:16:15.200 --> 01:16:17.200]  Does that make sense?
[01:16:17.200 --> 01:16:19.200]  It does make sense.
[01:16:19.200 --> 01:16:20.200]  Thank you.
[01:16:20.200 --> 01:16:29.200]  Try to get them to take a position in the state that will sting them in the feds.
[01:16:29.200 --> 01:16:36.200]  Everything you do in the state should be a setup.
[01:16:36.200 --> 01:16:44.200]  In the county, in this area, the word is, if that county SOB comes into your office, watch out.
[01:16:44.200 --> 01:16:49.200]  He's just trying to get you to do something so he can call the police to try to get you arrested.
[01:16:49.200 --> 01:16:50.200]  Everything is a setup.
[01:16:50.200 --> 01:16:52.200]  Everything should be a setup.
[01:16:52.200 --> 01:16:53.200]  Hang on.
[01:16:53.200 --> 01:16:54.200]  We'll pick this up on the other side.
[01:16:54.200 --> 01:16:57.200]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Ruth Brown Radio.
[01:16:57.200 --> 01:17:01.200]  We'll be right back.
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[01:20:01.200 --> 01:20:08.200]  Okay, we are back.
[01:20:08.200 --> 01:20:11.200]  Randy Helton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:20:11.200 --> 01:20:14.200]  And there's something I'm trying to get to.
[01:20:14.200 --> 01:20:24.200]  I've been doing this a long time, and I've done all of the, I got these rights, you have those duties, blah, blah, blah.
[01:20:24.200 --> 01:20:33.200]  And over time, as I address these issues, I tended to get a little bit more sophisticated.
[01:20:33.200 --> 01:20:48.200]  And instead of just addressing the specific issues that they're violating or the laws they're violating, I started to look a little deeper.
[01:20:48.200 --> 01:20:55.200]  After a while, you get a really good feel about how these guys are going to respond.
[01:20:55.200 --> 01:21:04.200]  And Greg, I get the impression that you're getting more familiar with how they're going to respond.
[01:21:04.200 --> 01:21:21.200]  Once we begin to get a good idea of this back and forth, then we can take a step back and say, okay, how can we use this standard stuff they're doing all the time against them?
[01:21:21.200 --> 01:21:27.200]  How can we stay a step or two ahead of them?
[01:21:27.200 --> 01:21:31.200]  I tend to not like checkers.
[01:21:31.200 --> 01:21:35.200]  Checkers is push and pull.
[01:21:35.200 --> 01:21:38.200]  I like chess a lot better.
[01:21:38.200 --> 01:21:44.200]  If you're going to win at chess, you need to be three or four moves ahead.
[01:21:44.200 --> 01:21:59.200]  So, Greg, it seems like from the way you have been responding that you're already at the point to where you're a couple of moves ahead of them.
[01:21:59.200 --> 01:22:05.200]  Well, let's look at the state and let's look at the Fed.
[01:22:05.200 --> 01:22:11.200]  The state has one set of rules and issues and conditions.
[01:22:11.200 --> 01:22:13.200]  The Feds have another.
[01:22:13.200 --> 01:22:32.200]  How can you use an action in the Feds not to win your case, but to get the state actors to do things that you can use against them in the Fed?
[01:22:32.200 --> 01:22:34.200]  Does that make sense?
[01:22:34.200 --> 01:22:38.200]  Yeah, it does.
[01:22:38.200 --> 01:22:45.200]  We need to be a couple steps ahead.
[01:22:45.200 --> 01:22:46.200]  Go ahead.
[01:22:46.200 --> 01:22:48.200]  I'll shut up now.
[01:22:48.200 --> 01:22:52.200]  I don't have the answer to that, but I understand the concept.
[01:22:52.200 --> 01:23:08.200]  And that would be, I think, being familiar with the rules of civil procedure with the Superior Court of my local jurisdiction versus federal.
[01:23:08.200 --> 01:23:11.200]  And you're playing a more sophisticated game than I am.
[01:23:11.200 --> 01:23:13.200]  Obviously, you've been at this a long time.
[01:23:13.200 --> 01:23:15.200]  I'm pretty new at this.
[01:23:15.200 --> 01:23:24.200]  I think I'm what may be approaching about a year and a half of even understanding anything legal at all.
[01:23:24.200 --> 01:23:27.200]  Hold on.
[01:23:27.200 --> 01:23:30.200]  This is not about legal.
[01:23:30.200 --> 01:23:41.200]  You have demonstrated by what you have done already that you have a level of understanding of human interaction.
[01:23:41.200 --> 01:23:43.200]  This is not so much about legal.
[01:23:43.200 --> 01:23:51.200]  Legal is just kind of something we use to keep things focused and moving in a particular direction.
[01:23:51.200 --> 01:23:54.200]  This is about human interaction.
[01:23:54.200 --> 01:23:57.200]  You clearly understand that.
[01:23:57.200 --> 01:24:03.200]  All you have to do is attach the legal portion to it.
[01:24:03.200 --> 01:24:05.200]  How do we motivate these guys?
[01:24:05.200 --> 01:24:08.200]  You apparently know.
[01:24:08.200 --> 01:24:10.200]  You knew what they were going to do.
[01:24:10.200 --> 01:24:13.200]  I have a document called The Rubber Ball Theory.
[01:24:13.200 --> 01:24:14.200]  Send me an email.
[01:24:14.200 --> 01:24:16.200]  I'll send it to you.
[01:24:16.200 --> 01:24:17.200]  Randy, I've read that.
[01:24:17.200 --> 01:24:18.200]  I've read that twice.
[01:24:18.200 --> 01:24:21.200]  I've read that twice.
[01:24:21.200 --> 01:24:33.200]  That's what they hear because I started to say, when this guy stood with his back to you, you were using The Rubber Ball Theory.
[01:24:33.200 --> 01:24:34.200]  You got it.
[01:24:34.200 --> 01:24:44.200]  You knew what he was trying to get you to do and you didn't give it to him.
[01:24:44.200 --> 01:24:50.200]  You're at a level that's a step above these guys.
[01:24:50.200 --> 01:24:56.200]  If you stop thinking in terms of action and reaction and start thinking in terms of,
[01:24:56.200 --> 01:25:04.200]  I pretty well know that if I push this button, this guy's going to do that dance.
[01:25:04.200 --> 01:25:07.200]  If I push this one over here, he's going to do that dance.
[01:25:07.200 --> 01:25:11.200]  He's going to push buttons in me trying to get me to dance for him.
[01:25:11.200 --> 01:25:17.200]  If I don't do the dance he wants me to do, then I can get him to do some pretty stupid stuff.
[01:25:17.200 --> 01:25:28.200]  I got him to arrest me in the district attorney's office having a private conversation with the district attorney.
[01:25:28.200 --> 01:25:39.200]  I got a bailiff to arrest me for what was it?
[01:25:39.200 --> 01:25:42.200]  I think they called it disturbing the peace or something.
[01:25:42.200 --> 01:25:50.200]  Breach of the peace. You can't breach the peace in a private office.
[01:25:50.200 --> 01:25:53.200]  You can't breach the peace of a peace officer either.
[01:25:53.200 --> 01:26:03.200]  Absolutely not. I can stand in front of a police officer and call him every kind of no good SOB I can think of and I cannot breach his peace.
[01:26:03.200 --> 01:26:13.200]  But he was so concerned that he did something incredibly stupid and I sued him for $400 million.
[01:26:13.200 --> 01:26:17.200]  You already got that break.
[01:26:17.200 --> 01:26:23.200]  That was when I first heard what you said you did. It was clear you got that.
[01:26:23.200 --> 01:26:30.200]  The fact that you've read the rubber ball theory twice, that explains a whole lot.
[01:26:30.200 --> 01:26:33.200]  You're not giving them what they expect.
[01:26:33.200 --> 01:26:39.200]  And when you don't give them what they expect, they really act ignorant.
[01:26:39.200 --> 01:26:52.200]  And it allows you to step up a level, get outside the action and reaction and look at it from a more sophisticated level.
[01:26:52.200 --> 01:27:00.200]  You need to look at the federal laws, 18 U.S. Code 242.
[01:27:00.200 --> 01:27:10.200]  18 U.S. Code 242 allows you to sue public officials for behaviors that they perpetrate in their official capacity.
[01:27:10.200 --> 01:27:18.200]  So how can we con these guys into doing something stupid?
[01:27:18.200 --> 01:27:27.200]  Did I ever tell you, are you familiar with my hearing aid story?
[01:27:27.200 --> 01:27:30.200]  What?
[01:27:30.200 --> 01:27:37.200]  I'm going to tell this for everybody else.
[01:27:37.200 --> 01:27:41.200]  You have to appreciate it.
[01:27:41.200 --> 01:27:43.200]  This is what we do.
[01:27:43.200 --> 01:27:48.200]  I went into court and me and another guy were helping stop foreclosures.
[01:27:48.200 --> 01:28:01.200]  And in a possession action in the Justice Court, a non-lawyer can represent someone.
[01:28:01.200 --> 01:28:07.200]  So we were representing these people in an eviction hearing.
[01:28:07.200 --> 01:28:14.200]  And David Rethy, a friend of mine, he was up first, we were working together.
[01:28:14.200 --> 01:28:19.200]  And he went up and sat down at the table and I stood up at the bench.
[01:28:19.200 --> 01:28:21.200]  I mean, I'm sorry, at the bar.
[01:28:21.200 --> 01:28:24.200]  And I just stood there, everybody else sat down, but I stood up.
[01:28:24.200 --> 01:28:28.200]  Finally, the judge looked up and said, may I help you?
[01:28:28.200 --> 01:28:30.200]  Well, he knew who I was.
[01:28:30.200 --> 01:28:33.200]  This guy was a real jerk.
[01:28:33.200 --> 01:28:36.200]  And I had hammered him a couple of times and he was P.O.ed at me.
[01:28:36.200 --> 01:28:38.200]  So he already knew who I was.
[01:28:38.200 --> 01:28:40.200]  He looked up and said, can I help you?
[01:28:40.200 --> 01:28:44.200]  So because he knew who I was, he's already P.O.ed at me.
[01:28:44.200 --> 01:28:49.200]  I said, yes, Your Honor, my name is Randy Kelton and I have a hearing deficiency.
[01:28:49.200 --> 01:28:52.200]  Well, Mr. Kelton, just what's wrong with your hearing?
[01:28:52.200 --> 01:28:53.200]  That was stupid.
[01:28:53.200 --> 01:28:55.200]  He shouldn't have asked me that question.
[01:28:55.200 --> 01:28:59.200]  I said, oh, Judge, I was down in Mecca court the other day
[01:28:59.200 --> 01:29:05.200]  and I drank too much of that cheap tequila and I lost my hearing aid.
[01:29:05.200 --> 01:29:06.200]  Well, I was lying to him.
[01:29:06.200 --> 01:29:09.200]  I had it in my pocket and I wasn't in Mexico.
[01:29:09.200 --> 01:29:11.200]  Well, why are you telling me this?
[01:29:11.200 --> 01:29:13.200]  I said, do you have accommodation for hearing impaired?
[01:29:13.200 --> 01:29:15.200]  Well, Mr. Kelton, I do not.
[01:29:15.200 --> 01:29:17.200]  Well, you have a sound system here.
[01:29:17.200 --> 01:29:23.200]  Accommodation is a lot of courts have these wireless headsets
[01:29:23.200 --> 01:29:25.200]  so you can hear what everything's going on.
[01:29:25.200 --> 01:29:27.200]  And he said, no, he did not.
[01:29:27.200 --> 01:29:28.200]  I said, you have a sound system here.
[01:29:28.200 --> 01:29:29.200]  Will you turn it up?
[01:29:29.200 --> 01:29:31.200]  No, I will not.
[01:29:31.200 --> 01:29:33.200]  Well, then would you speak up?
[01:29:33.200 --> 01:29:35.200]  And he did.
[01:29:35.200 --> 01:29:37.200]  He told the bait if I didn't say, oh, shut up,
[01:29:37.200 --> 01:29:39.200]  he said, throw me out of the courtroom.
[01:29:39.200 --> 01:29:41.200]  So I said, oh, shut up.
[01:29:41.200 --> 01:29:45.200]  He denied everything that David brought before him.
[01:29:45.200 --> 01:29:47.200]  He called me the next one.
[01:29:47.200 --> 01:29:48.200]  I was next on the agenda.
[01:29:48.200 --> 01:29:51.200]  They called me up and the judge started.
[01:29:51.200 --> 01:29:56.200]  I said, objection, I'm here at arm's length to the courts.
[01:29:56.200 --> 01:30:00.200]  I have a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction before the court.
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[01:33:13.200 --> 01:33:22.200]  Yeah, and who you want to chip? Who you take me for? Free Tony.
[01:33:22.200 --> 01:33:25.200]  Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening,
[01:33:25.200 --> 01:33:27.200]  put a chip in your body.
[01:33:27.200 --> 01:33:29.200]  And then when you go computer reading,
[01:33:29.200 --> 01:33:31.200]  you can't hide me from nobody.
[01:33:31.200 --> 01:33:34.200]  When you say chip in your mouth, chip in your daddy,
[01:33:34.200 --> 01:33:37.200]  chip in your grandpa and the grammy,
[01:33:37.200 --> 01:33:39.200]  chip in me, chip in your baby,
[01:33:39.200 --> 01:33:41.200]  chip in your family, whole family,
[01:33:41.200 --> 01:33:44.200]  chip in your dad and the cap around me,
[01:33:44.200 --> 01:33:46.200]  chip in the beef and you still go eat it,
[01:33:46.200 --> 01:33:48.200]  chip in the fish, them all in the sea,
[01:33:48.200 --> 01:33:51.200]  chip in the stock and the wheel around me,
[01:33:51.200 --> 01:33:53.200]  you must be mankind gone too crazy,
[01:33:53.200 --> 01:33:56.200]  take the clinic room and they want to read it,
[01:33:56.200 --> 01:33:58.200]  social security, they've got to tell me,
[01:33:58.200 --> 01:34:00.200]  number when they give me, they rip it up, you see.
[01:34:00.200 --> 01:34:03.200]  I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening,
[01:34:03.200 --> 01:34:05.200]  chip you all the dinner time,
[01:34:05.200 --> 01:34:07.200]  experiment on mankind,
[01:34:07.200 --> 01:34:10.200]  but man, you know, say them right,
[01:34:10.200 --> 01:34:12.200]  we don't want no chip, man, you have your body,
[01:34:12.200 --> 01:34:15.200]  freedom or something, man, you fight for it,
[01:34:15.200 --> 01:34:17.200]  you should tell them, they free read it,
[01:34:17.200 --> 01:34:20.200]  constitution set us free,
[01:34:20.200 --> 01:34:22.200]  planted them, took no chip in your body,
[01:34:22.200 --> 01:34:24.200]  put no chip in you, dog, I catch you see,
[01:34:24.200 --> 01:34:27.200]  no put no chip in your cow and go eat it,
[01:34:27.200 --> 01:34:29.200]  no put no chip in the fish and go eat it,
[01:34:29.200 --> 01:34:32.200]  all in the wheel and the shark in the sea.
[01:34:32.200 --> 01:34:34.200]  Okay, we are back.
[01:34:34.200 --> 01:34:36.200]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La Radio.
[01:34:36.200 --> 01:34:39.200]  And this is one of my favorite stories
[01:34:39.200 --> 01:34:42.200]  of people who listen to my show a lot
[01:34:42.200 --> 01:34:45.200]  know that I do a lot of work
[01:34:45.200 --> 01:34:48.200]  with neuro-linguistic programming.
[01:34:48.200 --> 01:34:54.200]  And most of the stories that I tell are not just stories.
[01:34:54.200 --> 01:34:59.200]  They're what Gordon would call therapeutic metaphors.
[01:34:59.200 --> 01:35:05.200]  They're, I'm trying to illustrate points.
[01:35:05.200 --> 01:35:07.200]  This one illustrates a really important point,
[01:35:07.200 --> 01:35:10.200]  but this one happens to be absolutely true.
[01:35:10.200 --> 01:35:12.200]  This actually happened.
[01:35:12.200 --> 01:35:18.200]  And it happened because this Judge Hayes was such a jerk.
[01:35:18.200 --> 01:35:25.200]  But I told him that I had this hearing deficiency
[01:35:25.200 --> 01:35:26.200]  and I'd lost my hearing aid.
[01:35:26.200 --> 01:35:28.200]  I asked him to speak up.
[01:35:28.200 --> 01:35:32.200]  And he did and told the bailiff,
[01:35:32.200 --> 01:35:33.200]  if I didn't sit down and shut up,
[01:35:33.200 --> 01:35:34.200]  he'd throw me out of the courtroom.
[01:35:34.200 --> 01:35:37.200]  So he ruled against David and everything.
[01:35:37.200 --> 01:35:39.200]  And then he called me up and I sat down
[01:35:39.200 --> 01:35:40.200]  and he started the hearing.
[01:35:40.200 --> 01:35:42.200]  And I said, objection.
[01:35:42.200 --> 01:35:44.200]  I'm here at arm's length to the court
[01:35:44.200 --> 01:35:47.200]  to have challenge subject matter jurisdiction before the court.
[01:35:47.200 --> 01:35:53.200]  When you go into court, jurisdiction is presumed.
[01:35:53.200 --> 01:35:56.200]  But once you challenge jurisdiction,
[01:35:56.200 --> 01:36:02.200]  then the court must prove jurisdiction, not the prosecutor.
[01:36:02.200 --> 01:36:06.200]  And I think it's really good that you just are bringing this out,
[01:36:06.200 --> 01:36:08.200]  because often they will try to skip that.
[01:36:08.200 --> 01:36:09.200]  You'll have it in the record
[01:36:09.200 --> 01:36:12.200]  and they'll just blow right past it, pretend like it doesn't exist.
[01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:17.200]  But what you did was, whoa, whoa, you have an objection here
[01:36:17.200 --> 01:36:19.200]  because they didn't address.
[01:36:19.200 --> 01:36:21.200]  It's not that you're bringing it up at that point.
[01:36:21.200 --> 01:36:24.200]  You've already brought it up, but they're trying to ignore it
[01:36:24.200 --> 01:36:26.200]  and you're objecting to that.
[01:36:26.200 --> 01:36:28.200]  That's worth mentioning.
[01:36:28.200 --> 01:36:30.200]  Yeah, they want to ignore it.
[01:36:30.200 --> 01:36:35.200]  But jurisdiction is a threshold issue.
[01:36:35.200 --> 01:36:41.200]  When I said, I am here at arm's length to the court,
[01:36:41.200 --> 01:36:45.200]  that meant, and the judge knew what that meant,
[01:36:45.200 --> 01:36:50.200]  it meant that I have not stepped across the threshold of the court.
[01:36:50.200 --> 01:36:54.200]  I have not accepted the authority of this court.
[01:36:54.200 --> 01:37:01.200]  And because I didn't accept it, you now by law must prove it.
[01:37:01.200 --> 01:37:04.200]  You cannot, you can no longer assume it.
[01:37:04.200 --> 01:37:09.200]  When an issue is brought before the court, the jurisdiction is presumed.
[01:37:09.200 --> 01:37:13.200]  And if nobody challenges it,
[01:37:13.200 --> 01:37:18.200]  then they can move as if jurisdiction exists, whether it does or not.
[01:37:18.200 --> 01:37:24.200]  But once you challenge it, it's no longer presumed and the court must prove it.
[01:37:24.200 --> 01:37:28.200]  So I challenged subject matter jurisdiction to court.
[01:37:28.200 --> 01:37:32.200]  And the judge said, well, Mr. Kelly, you just filed that 30 minutes ago.
[01:37:32.200 --> 01:37:34.200]  Yes, Your Honor, as a matter of fact, I did.
[01:37:34.200 --> 01:37:36.200]  It was 32 pages.
[01:37:36.200 --> 01:37:39.200]  Well, I'm going to deny that.
[01:37:39.200 --> 01:37:46.200]  There are a lot of things that a judge can do with a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:37:46.200 --> 01:37:50.200]  But deny it out of hand is not one of them.
[01:37:50.200 --> 01:37:53.200]  Well, there's not that many things he can do.
[01:37:53.200 --> 01:37:55.200]  Well, okay, yeah, there's not.
[01:37:55.200 --> 01:37:57.200]  He has to prove up jurisdiction.
[01:37:57.200 --> 01:38:00.200]  Or else dismiss for lack of jurisdiction.
[01:38:00.200 --> 01:38:01.200]  Yes.
[01:38:01.200 --> 01:38:05.200]  And what he will generally do is ask the prosecutor to prove jurisdiction.
[01:38:05.200 --> 01:38:10.200]  But it is not the duty of the prosecutor to prove jurisdiction.
[01:38:10.200 --> 01:38:13.200]  It is the duty of the judge.
[01:38:13.200 --> 01:38:17.200]  The prosecutor is not the one that's ordered me to come to court.
[01:38:17.200 --> 01:38:21.200]  And the prosecutor is not the one that's holding me to the rule of law.
[01:38:21.200 --> 01:38:23.200]  The judge is.
[01:38:23.200 --> 01:38:29.200]  So he's the one that has to show that before he orders me to come to his court,
[01:38:29.200 --> 01:38:33.200]  that he has the power to make that order.
[01:38:33.200 --> 01:38:38.200]  So the judge is not, you know, they're not accustomed to these kinds of issues.
[01:38:38.200 --> 01:38:43.200]  So they, especially the lower level judges that don't understand law,
[01:38:43.200 --> 01:38:46.200]  they tend to get pretty arrogant and jaded.
[01:38:46.200 --> 01:38:50.200]  They deal with people that don't know anything all the time.
[01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:53.200]  And so they just do whatever they want to.
[01:38:53.200 --> 01:38:55.200]  They're not used to being set up.
[01:38:55.200 --> 01:38:59.200]  So he said, you just filed that 30 minutes ago.
[01:38:59.200 --> 01:39:00.200]  I said, yes, Your Honor.
[01:39:00.200 --> 01:39:01.200]  As a matter of fact, I did.
[01:39:01.200 --> 01:39:03.200]  Well, I'm going to deny that.
[01:39:03.200 --> 01:39:07.200]  So you're going to deny a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction without even reading it.
[01:39:07.200 --> 01:39:09.200]  You have my ruling.
[01:39:09.200 --> 01:39:10.200]  Yes, I do.
[01:39:10.200 --> 01:39:12.200]  And I slammed my folder shut.
[01:39:12.200 --> 01:39:14.200]  We're done here.
[01:39:14.200 --> 01:39:16.200]  And I pointed at the bailiff.
[01:39:16.200 --> 01:39:18.200]  You come with me.
[01:39:18.200 --> 01:39:21.200]  I stormed out of the courtroom.
[01:39:21.200 --> 01:39:23.200]  That was so much fun.
[01:39:23.200 --> 01:39:26.200]  The bailiff was about six foot six.
[01:39:26.200 --> 01:39:28.200]  Had to be 400 pounds.
[01:39:28.200 --> 01:39:30.200]  Just a big bear of a man.
[01:39:30.200 --> 01:39:35.200]  And one thing I know about really big guys.
[01:39:35.200 --> 01:39:39.200]  Big guys are always teddy bears.
[01:39:39.200 --> 01:39:41.200]  They don't have anything to prove.
[01:39:41.200 --> 01:39:46.200]  They do not have to prove that they're big, bad and tough.
[01:39:46.200 --> 01:39:49.200]  They own a big, bad, bad and tough.
[01:39:49.200 --> 01:39:51.200]  So they don't have to prove anything.
[01:39:51.200 --> 01:39:54.200]  So they tend to be real congenial.
[01:39:54.200 --> 01:40:03.200]  It's very seldom I have ever come across a really big guy who was angry and antagonistic.
[01:40:03.200 --> 01:40:04.200]  And this guy was no exception.
[01:40:04.200 --> 01:40:07.200]  He comes out and he said, Mr. Kelton, what can I do for you?
[01:40:07.200 --> 01:40:10.200]  I need you to arrest a judge.
[01:40:10.200 --> 01:40:12.200]  Well, why didn't I arrest a judge?
[01:40:12.200 --> 01:40:19.200]  Class A misdemeanor, official oppression, criminal violation, 39.03 penal code.
[01:40:19.200 --> 01:40:25.200]  In that, he denied me the full and free access to the enjoyment of a right.
[01:40:25.200 --> 01:40:29.200]  Well, Mr. Kelton, what right did he deny you in?
[01:40:29.200 --> 01:40:34.200]  He denied me in my right to accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
[01:40:34.200 --> 01:40:41.200]  Well, Mr. Kelton, why didn't you tell the judge about the Americans with Disabilities Act?
[01:40:41.200 --> 01:40:49.200]  Well, heck, if I'd have done that, he might have lost my place, Brett.
[01:40:49.200 --> 01:40:51.200]  If I'd have done that, he might have...
[01:40:51.200 --> 01:40:52.200]  Just turned the sound up.
[01:40:52.200 --> 01:41:01.200]  Sound up. And the plaintiff stood there a minute and this grin came across his face and he said,
[01:41:01.200 --> 01:41:03.200]  well, you set him up.
[01:41:03.200 --> 01:41:06.200]  Yeah, I did.
[01:41:06.200 --> 01:41:07.200]  And he was a sucker for it.
[01:41:07.200 --> 01:41:10.200]  Now, you need to go in there and arrest him.
[01:41:10.200 --> 01:41:11.200]  Well, I can't arrest a judge.
[01:41:11.200 --> 01:41:17.200]  I said, look at you, big strapling officer, got that pistol on your hip.
[01:41:17.200 --> 01:41:19.200]  You need to take your chicken suit off.
[01:41:19.200 --> 01:41:27.200]  And I always tell them that because you're always thinking,
[01:41:27.200 --> 01:41:34.200]  what's going to look good before a grand jury of my peers?
[01:41:34.200 --> 01:41:38.200]  They're going to want to say that I was agitated.
[01:41:38.200 --> 01:41:47.200]  And I will say, did I get agitated before I asked you to take your chicken suit off or after?
[01:41:47.200 --> 01:41:53.200]  So he said, I'm not going to take my chicken suit off.
[01:41:53.200 --> 01:42:01.200]  That was the single most powerful thing I have done.
[01:42:01.200 --> 01:42:03.200]  After that, the word got around.
[01:42:03.200 --> 01:42:09.200]  If that count in SOB comes into your office, watch out.
[01:42:09.200 --> 01:42:14.200]  He's trying to get you to do something so he can try to get you arrested.
[01:42:14.200 --> 01:42:17.200]  And that's true.
[01:42:17.200 --> 01:42:18.200]  I am.
[01:42:18.200 --> 01:42:19.200]  So don't screw with me.
[01:42:19.200 --> 01:42:25.200]  Greg, you need to have him have that opinion of you.
[01:42:25.200 --> 01:42:27.200]  I'm working on it.
[01:42:27.200 --> 01:42:31.200]  Yeah, we get one guy like this in every county in the country.
[01:42:31.200 --> 01:42:36.200]  We'll take this system back.
[01:42:36.200 --> 01:42:39.200]  I have a goal.
[01:42:39.200 --> 01:42:45.200]  If you don't know where you're going, there's a good chance you'll wind up somewhere else.
[01:42:45.200 --> 01:42:50.200]  So before you walk in the door of the courthouse, you need to know where you're going.
[01:42:50.200 --> 01:42:55.200]  What is your intended ultimate outcome?
[01:42:55.200 --> 01:43:03.200]  My intended ultimate outcome is to put every judge in the country in a position such that when they step up behind the bench
[01:43:03.200 --> 01:43:07.200]  and look out across the bar at the gallery, I want them wondering which one,
[01:43:07.200 --> 01:43:13.200]  which one of those scoundrels sitting out there in the gallery are waiting for me to render a ruling that they don't like
[01:43:13.200 --> 01:43:18.200]  so they can run down to the grand jury and try to get me arrested.
[01:43:18.200 --> 01:43:29.200]  If we can instill that concern, justice will take care of itself.
[01:43:29.200 --> 01:43:40.200]  So everything I do is about giving a judge the idea that if he doesn't do what's right, if he doesn't follow law,
[01:43:40.200 --> 01:43:45.200]  somebody out there is going to kick his behind.
[01:43:45.200 --> 01:43:46.200]  Greg?
[01:43:46.200 --> 01:43:47.200]  Yes?
[01:43:47.200 --> 01:43:50.200]  One of those guys to do that.
[01:43:50.200 --> 01:43:55.200]  Along with this really churlish young woman, Miss Tina, Cobra.
[01:43:55.200 --> 01:43:57.200]  Hello, Tina.
[01:43:57.200 --> 01:43:59.200]  You still there?
[01:43:59.200 --> 01:44:00.200]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:44:00.200 --> 01:44:01.200]  Dang, cookies.
[01:44:01.200 --> 01:44:02.200]  Cookies?
[01:44:02.200 --> 01:44:03.200]  Me love cookies.
[01:44:03.200 --> 01:44:04.200]  Oh, hi, Cookie Muncher.
[01:44:04.200 --> 01:44:06.200]  No, these are yucky cookies.
[01:44:06.200 --> 01:44:07.200]  Cookies?
[01:44:07.200 --> 01:44:08.200]  Yucky?
[01:44:08.200 --> 01:44:09.200]  No, no bad cookies.
[01:44:09.200 --> 01:44:11.200]  You can't even eat these cookies.
[01:44:11.200 --> 01:44:12.200]  These are cyber cookies.
[01:44:12.200 --> 01:44:13.200]  No, can't eat it?
[01:44:13.200 --> 01:44:17.200]  No, they are cyber cookies and they clog up your computer.
[01:44:17.200 --> 01:44:18.200]  These have apples.
[01:44:18.200 --> 01:44:19.200]  Really?
[01:44:19.200 --> 01:44:21.200]  Oh, that's an actual apple.
[01:44:21.200 --> 01:44:23.200]  Yummy apple.
[01:44:23.200 --> 01:44:26.200]  I'm going to throw away these yucky cookies in the trash.
[01:44:26.200 --> 01:44:32.200]  I click control, shift, delete, and then scroll down to cookies and clear them.
[01:44:32.200 --> 01:44:34.200]  Bye-bye, yucky cookies.
[01:44:34.200 --> 01:44:40.200]  Now, I go to logosradionetwork.com and I click on the Amazon box on the upper right-hand side,
[01:44:40.200 --> 01:44:47.200]  bookmark the link, and I can go to Amazon through this link and order you some yummy new cookies.
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[01:46:22.200 --> 01:46:31.200]  Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize foolish.
[01:46:31.200 --> 01:46:39.200]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:46:39.200 --> 01:46:49.200]  There's always a room at the top of the hill. Here through the grapevine and it's lonely there, too.
[01:46:49.200 --> 01:46:55.200]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to bill. They know that if they don't do it,
[01:46:55.200 --> 01:47:05.200]  somebody will. Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize foolish.
[01:47:05.200 --> 01:47:13.200]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:47:13.200 --> 01:47:19.200]  I know they will. Yeah, they're gonna put the bill. I know they will.
[01:47:19.200 --> 01:47:23.200]  Cause I've seen so much injustice to you. I know they will.
[01:47:23.200 --> 01:47:30.200]  Never fail to set back the scale. I know they will. Never fail to set back the scale.
[01:47:30.200 --> 01:47:41.200]  I know they will. I know they will.
[01:47:41.200 --> 01:47:47.200]  Okay, we are back. Randy Fountain, Brett Fountain, Real Bell Radio, and I just can't believe it.
[01:47:47.200 --> 01:47:54.200]  Tina, what are you thinking? You dove right off the cliff.
[01:47:54.200 --> 01:47:57.200]  No, it wasn't on me, you know.
[01:47:57.200 --> 01:48:04.200]  I spent the whole segment setting you up so you could dive off the cliff.
[01:48:04.200 --> 01:48:12.200]  That's because you called me foolish instead of sweet-up.
[01:48:12.200 --> 01:48:17.200]  Okay, Tina, what do you think about Greg?
[01:48:17.200 --> 01:48:25.200]  Well, I think there should be a lot more of the Gregs around. I wish I had a couple more in my county.
[01:48:25.200 --> 01:48:35.200]  Because we, you know, I mean, it's brilliant. It does take a while. He's a little younger than me.
[01:48:35.200 --> 01:48:43.200]  We don't need a couple of years. But we need that support. We need people like this.
[01:48:43.200 --> 01:48:50.200]  And I don't know if you got a chance to get Ted Scarladon. He's another Californian.
[01:48:50.200 --> 01:48:56.200]  And he did something really great today. He sent you a link to it and I listened to it.
[01:48:56.200 --> 01:49:02.200]  He is not stopping. And people like that are going to get there in the end.
[01:49:02.200 --> 01:49:09.200]  It's going to take a long while. And I had a down week or two where I just felt like I can't do anymore.
[01:49:09.200 --> 01:49:15.200]  And we've had family in town, so I'm trying to get my energy back to keep going.
[01:49:15.200 --> 01:49:25.200]  And people listening to people like this, it's like, okay, yep, get your energy back. Keep on hammering.
[01:49:25.200 --> 01:49:30.200]  So I'm glad to meet you, Greg.
[01:49:30.200 --> 01:49:41.200]  I'm really surprised at what Greg is saying about how the sheriff is responding or how the department is responding.
[01:49:41.200 --> 01:49:57.200]  From what I've seen and the people who've called in, it's clear that all of these demonstrations and riots against the police have really got their attention.
[01:49:57.200 --> 01:50:07.200]  Tina, you and I have talked about this, about how the police were getting out of control and how the police were treating the public.
[01:50:07.200 --> 01:50:24.200]  And after all of these riots, everybody that's called in, I haven't had anyone recently call in and talk about the police being aggressive and abusive.
[01:50:24.200 --> 01:50:36.200]  This one that gave me a ticket, I really worked him over. And he was extremely restrained.
[01:50:36.200 --> 01:50:45.200]  Generally, I can put him over the edge, but this guy was not going there.
[01:50:45.200 --> 01:50:54.200]  Somebody had read him the riot act, and it was clear that they had been warned.
[01:50:54.200 --> 01:51:15.200]  Now, what I see this as, is an opportunity to open a really big door to move us from considering the police as our enemies to considering them as partners in justice.
[01:51:15.200 --> 01:51:28.200]  Just like what Greg said.
[01:51:28.200 --> 01:51:34.200]  Wait a minute. Go ahead, Greg.
[01:51:34.200 --> 01:51:39.200]  Okay. Was that you?
[01:51:39.200 --> 01:51:50.200]  I got some sound, Tina, but I couldn't make sense of it.
[01:51:50.200 --> 01:51:56.200]  Something's very weird about, it's like there's a buzzing echo behind Tina's voice.
[01:51:56.200 --> 01:52:00.200]  Do you have something on in the background, Tina?
[01:52:00.200 --> 01:52:04.200]  No, nothing. No, I'm in a completely quiet room.
[01:52:04.200 --> 01:52:07.200]  Okay, now you sound better. Okay, go ahead, Tina.
[01:52:07.200 --> 01:52:18.200]  Okay. I was saying, if only we can do the same with the police, with the judges.
[01:52:18.200 --> 01:52:35.200]  Well, if we can get the police to kind of be at least a semi-partner with us, then we can take care of the judges.
[01:52:35.200 --> 01:52:39.200]  The judges are next.
[01:52:39.200 --> 01:52:44.200]  Yes, I will have to tell you.
[01:52:44.200 --> 01:53:01.200]  I wanted to tell you that today I got a call from somebody who's in this lawsuit against the timeless privacy, the consignor still with me, and he was on a Zoom call, just listening in, not on the camera, to something that's a friend of his niece.
[01:53:01.200 --> 01:53:05.200]  And he was, he couldn't get the...
[01:53:05.200 --> 01:53:09.200]  Back your mic away from your mouth a little bit.
[01:53:09.200 --> 01:53:14.200]  It is, it's about six inches away right now. Is that good?
[01:53:14.200 --> 01:53:16.200]  That's much better.
[01:53:16.200 --> 01:53:33.200]  Yeah. Well, he called me to tell me that he was kind of scrolling through the different courtrooms, and he heard a judge, a female judge, talking to the court reporter and the clerk, saying, we've got to get rid of some of these bad judges.
[01:53:33.200 --> 01:53:40.200]  There's too many old and bad judges. We've got to get them out of here. And they're making a bad impression.
[01:53:40.200 --> 01:53:44.200]  Are you saying a prosecutor said that to you?
[01:53:44.200 --> 01:53:59.200]  I know a judge said it to, well, was saying it to a court reporter and the court clerk. And this friend of mine is, you know, in the lawsuit with me, it wasn't about our lawsuit, but he just happened to overhear that.
[01:53:59.200 --> 01:54:13.200]  They didn't realize he was on the phone. And he couldn't believe a judge actually said that about other judges. And he said, Tina, am I hearing right? I couldn't believe she was saying this.
[01:54:13.200 --> 01:54:24.200]  And that goes to my consideration that human beings are basically right-minded.
[01:54:24.200 --> 01:54:47.200]  Judges get trapped into roles that they didn't anticipate when they got in there. And we tend to want to find someone we can demonize. And we can demonize them beyond all, what's the word, Brett?
[01:54:47.200 --> 01:54:49.200]  I'm not sure what you mean yet.
[01:54:49.200 --> 01:55:00.200]  Yeah, I lost it. Demonize beyond all retribution. That's not the word. We want to find someone we can point the finger at.
[01:55:00.200 --> 01:55:12.200]  And I'm concerned that there probably is not really anybody in this whole process we can point a finger at.
[01:55:12.200 --> 01:55:21.200]  These are all just a bunch of people enmeshed in a system trying to do the best they can.
[01:55:21.200 --> 01:55:43.200]  And the problem is that you and I, as citizens in a republic, have not acted strongly enough to ensure that our public officials remember what their focus should be on.
[01:55:43.200 --> 01:55:55.200]  Public officials get immersed into public policy. And when public policy is a horrible mess, that's our fault because we haven't fixed the policy.
[01:55:55.200 --> 01:56:05.200]  I suspect that if we get the policy right, most of these public officials want to do the right thing the right way.
[01:56:05.200 --> 01:56:14.200]  They're just trapped in the systems they didn't create. And they're in the system. They can't fix it.
[01:56:14.200 --> 01:56:26.200]  Greg, you, and Tina, you, and I, and John, who's next, if we get to him, it's our job to look at what they're doing.
[01:56:26.200 --> 01:56:39.200]  And if it's not right, it's our job to stand up and wail in righteous indignation to make sure they do it right. Because I truly believe that most people want to do it right.
[01:56:39.200 --> 01:56:49.200]  They just don't always know what right is. If you're a policeman, you're stuck inside policy.
[01:56:49.200 --> 01:57:01.200]  You can either follow policy or you can be fired. And if policy is flawed, why is it flawed?
[01:57:01.200 --> 01:57:11.200]  We're the ones, you and I, the sovereigns, the citizens in a republic, it's our job to make sure policy is not flawed.
[01:57:11.200 --> 01:57:20.200]  Let's take these policemen who become policemen because they want to be good guys and give them the opportunity to be good guys.
[01:57:20.200 --> 01:57:31.200]  Don't let them get stuck inside a set of policies that doesn't allow them to be the good guys. They can't fix it. We can't.
[01:57:31.200 --> 01:57:44.200]  Greg Gamm appears as though he is absolutely in the process of doing that. Tina, she is absolutely been in the process of changing the policy,
[01:57:44.200 --> 01:57:57.200]  taking on the policy that these policemen and public officials are forced to follow, even though they know it is wrong and improper.
[01:57:57.200 --> 01:58:17.200]  Let's help them fix it. Now, in helping them fix it, sometimes the best medicine is a bit bitter and we may have to sting them a little bit.
[01:58:17.200 --> 01:58:28.200]  But life is tough. Deal with it. We'll all get over it and in the end, we'll all do better. We are running out of time.
[01:58:28.200 --> 01:58:33.200]  John, if you'll call in tomorrow night, we'll take you early. We didn't get to you tonight.
[01:58:33.200 --> 01:58:43.200]  Tina, call back tomorrow. All of you, Greg, call back tomorrow. It's seldom we spend a whole show on one caller.
[01:58:43.200 --> 01:58:48.200]  Thank you all for listening. We'll be back tomorrow night. Good night.
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