[00:00.000 --> 00:05.500] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution. [00:05.500 --> 00:09.500] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [00:09.500 --> 00:11.000] Our liberty depends on it. [00:11.000 --> 00:16.500] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember your First Amendment rights. [00:16.500 --> 00:18.500] Privacy is under attack. [00:18.500 --> 00:22.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [00:22.000 --> 00:26.500] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [00:26.500 --> 00:32.000] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself. [00:32.000 --> 00:34.500] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [00:34.500 --> 00:38.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com, [00:38.000 --> 00:42.000] the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [00:42.000 --> 00:45.500] Start over with Startpage. [00:45.500 --> 00:47.500] Spar, it's what fighters do. [00:47.500 --> 00:51.000] It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment. [00:51.000 --> 00:54.000] If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you. [00:54.000 --> 00:56.500] Spar with an extra P. [00:56.500 --> 01:03.000] S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, and R for religion. [01:03.000 --> 01:08.500] Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press, assembly, and religion. [01:08.500 --> 01:10.500] But petition for redress is another matter. [01:10.500 --> 01:14.500] We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. [01:14.500 --> 01:17.500] It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, [01:17.500 --> 01:21.000] we can spell out the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail. [01:21.000 --> 01:30.500] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:30.500 --> 01:34.500] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution. [01:34.500 --> 01:38.000] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [01:38.000 --> 01:39.500] Our liberty depends on it. [01:39.500 --> 01:43.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way [01:43.000 --> 01:46.000] to remember one of your constitutional rights. [01:46.000 --> 01:48.000] Privacy is under attack. [01:48.000 --> 01:51.500] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [01:51.500 --> 01:56.500] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [01:56.500 --> 01:58.000] So protect your rights. [01:58.000 --> 02:01.500] Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [02:01.500 --> 02:04.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [02:04.000 --> 02:08.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, [02:08.000 --> 02:12.000] the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [02:12.000 --> 02:15.500] Start over with StartPage. [02:15.500 --> 02:19.500] When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms [02:19.500 --> 02:22.000] around the Bill of Rights in a big old bear hug. [02:22.000 --> 02:26.000] It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, [02:26.000 --> 02:30.500] arms that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight. [02:30.500 --> 02:33.500] Get it? Two arms, bear hug, bear arms? [02:33.500 --> 02:37.500] The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well [02:37.500 --> 02:38.500] when he said, [02:38.500 --> 02:43.500] The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, [02:43.500 --> 02:47.500] one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, [02:47.500 --> 02:50.500] but which historically has proved to always be possible. [02:50.500 --> 03:14.500] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [03:20.500 --> 03:27.500] Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do? [03:27.500 --> 03:30.500] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:30.500 --> 03:32.500] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:32.500 --> 03:35.500] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:35.500 --> 03:38.500] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:38.500 --> 03:41.500] When you were eight and you had bad traits, [03:41.500 --> 03:43.500] you'd go to school and learn the golden rules. [03:43.500 --> 03:46.500] So why are you acting like a bloody fool? [03:46.500 --> 03:49.500] If you get hot, then you might get cool. [03:49.500 --> 03:52.500] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:52.500 --> 03:54.500] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:54.500 --> 03:57.500] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:57.500 --> 04:00.500] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:00.500 --> 04:03.500] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one. [04:03.500 --> 04:05.500] You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father, [04:05.500 --> 04:08.500] you chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sisters, [04:08.500 --> 04:11.500] you chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me. [04:11.500 --> 04:14.500] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [04:14.500 --> 04:16.500] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:16.500 --> 04:35.000] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? [04:35.000 --> 04:45.500] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? [04:45.500 --> 04:49.500] Bad boys what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you [04:49.520 --> 04:54.540] Bad boys bad boys what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you [04:54.540 --> 05:00.540] Bad boys bad boys what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you [05:00.540 --> 05:07.540] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [05:07.540 --> 05:33.540] Why did you have to ask the moon? Don't you know you're a human being? [05:33.540 --> 05:38.540] Born of a mother with a lover with a father Reflection goes on, reflection goes on [05:38.540 --> 05:49.540] I know sometimes you wanna let go I know sometimes you wanna let go [05:49.540 --> 06:00.540] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [06:00.540 --> 06:11.540] You're too bad, you're too blue You're too bad, you're too blue [06:11.540 --> 06:22.540] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [06:22.540 --> 06:33.540] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one, you chuck it on the mother and you chuck it on the father [06:33.540 --> 07:01.900] Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of Law Radio on this Thursday, the 14th [07:01.900 --> 07:06.380] day of April, 2022. [07:06.380 --> 07:12.740] And we have Brett somewhere in the background, but his monitor may blank, is your monitor [07:12.740 --> 07:13.740] back up? [07:13.740 --> 07:14.740] I got it. [07:14.740 --> 07:15.740] Okay. [07:15.740 --> 07:27.300] Okay, start out with, I sent a criminal complaint, first degree felony aggravated assault against [07:27.300 --> 07:34.780] a police officer who had the audacity to write me a ticket. [07:34.780 --> 07:36.580] Oh my goodness. [07:36.580 --> 07:38.780] What was he thinking? [07:38.780 --> 07:40.620] Maybe he never heard of you. [07:40.620 --> 07:45.420] It's because I told him to. [07:45.420 --> 07:47.500] Did you tell him what was coming up? [07:47.500 --> 07:48.500] No. [07:48.500 --> 07:49.500] No. [07:49.500 --> 07:50.500] I have a rule. [07:50.500 --> 07:53.500] Never give a warning. [07:53.500 --> 07:58.780] He asked me why my registration, he asked me what my registration was. [07:58.780 --> 08:02.820] He asked me why my registration wasn't on the window. [08:02.820 --> 08:03.820] I'm sorry. [08:03.820 --> 08:06.180] First he asked me if the car was registered. [08:06.180 --> 08:08.180] I said, of course it is. [08:08.180 --> 08:11.540] Why wasn't your registration on the window? [08:11.540 --> 08:16.860] I had Brett's private automobile sticker on the window. [08:16.860 --> 08:20.340] I said, well, I didn't want to put it on there. [08:20.340 --> 08:22.060] He said, well, do you have it? [08:22.060 --> 08:23.060] Well, yes. [08:23.060 --> 08:24.060] I said, well, where is it? [08:24.060 --> 08:25.060] It's in the glove compartment. [08:25.060 --> 08:27.740] When you show it to me, no. [08:27.740 --> 08:29.620] Well, why not? [08:29.620 --> 08:30.620] I don't want to. [08:30.620 --> 08:31.620] Well, I'll write you a ticket. [08:31.620 --> 08:32.620] Oh, that'll work. [08:32.620 --> 08:33.620] Go ahead. [08:33.620 --> 08:34.620] Go ahead. [08:34.620 --> 08:44.460] He's thinking, what does this guy know that I don't? [08:44.460 --> 08:47.220] He did not see it coming. [08:47.220 --> 08:53.020] I just filed first degree felony aggravated assault against him for writing the ticket. [08:53.020 --> 08:57.140] I just mailed it to his chief of police. [08:57.140 --> 09:03.540] I've already talked to the chief of police, told him that I'm going to give this to you [09:03.540 --> 09:07.340] and you are to present the complaint to some magistrate. [09:07.340 --> 09:09.980] He said, I don't know if I'm going to do that or not. [09:09.980 --> 09:13.660] I said, well, life is filled with little decisions. [09:13.660 --> 09:16.300] We all get to make some. [09:16.300 --> 09:17.300] Your turn. [09:17.300 --> 09:21.780] Do you give it to the magistrate or not? [09:21.780 --> 09:23.020] I don't care. [09:23.020 --> 09:25.500] I'll just take the next step. [09:25.500 --> 09:28.100] So now he's got it. [09:28.100 --> 09:33.620] He's got a cover letter with it asking him to let me know what magistrate he sends it [09:33.620 --> 09:42.780] to or give what magistrate to whom he gives notice and I'll give him a week or so. [09:42.780 --> 09:48.180] And when I don't hear from him telling me that he gave notice to some magistrate, then [09:48.180 --> 09:59.180] I'll give notice to some magistrate and charge him with shielding from prosecution. [09:59.180 --> 10:08.860] And I expect the magistrate to refuse to take my complaint and issue a warrant. [10:08.860 --> 10:11.500] Judge is named judge and mentor. [10:11.500 --> 10:18.500] Brett, do you remember when we were handling Philip Pixler's case? [10:18.500 --> 10:19.500] Tim. [10:19.500 --> 10:20.500] Tim. [10:20.500 --> 10:21.500] Yes. [10:21.500 --> 10:22.500] I do. [10:22.500 --> 10:25.500] The judge was Judge Pixler. [10:25.500 --> 10:27.500] Judge Pixler. [10:27.500 --> 10:28.500] Yeah. [10:28.500 --> 10:32.780] We're going to wind his clock. [10:32.780 --> 10:34.300] Now I have him. [10:34.300 --> 10:35.540] He's my judge. [10:35.540 --> 10:37.140] I own him. [10:37.140 --> 10:43.540] I went down and filed a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction and I just got this letter [10:43.540 --> 10:45.300] from the clerk. [10:45.300 --> 10:52.020] The time allowed for you to reply to the above charge has expired unless you, your remittance [10:52.020 --> 10:58.880] of the fine amount or an appeal bond is received within 30 days, you will also be charged with [10:58.880 --> 11:02.100] failure to appear and warrants issued for your arrest. [11:02.100 --> 11:04.100] Is that a fact? [11:04.100 --> 11:05.100] Jack. [11:05.100 --> 11:07.100] How about that? [11:07.100 --> 11:10.300] Have you ever seen one of those before Brett? [11:10.300 --> 11:17.580] Well, they do have a pretty common plan, you know, they just, they don't want to say steamroll [11:17.580 --> 11:19.900] and they don't want to say railroad. [11:19.900 --> 11:22.100] So they just phrase it like that. [11:22.100 --> 11:23.100] Yes. [11:23.100 --> 11:30.660] So I'm going to go to the local JP and file criminal charges against Judge Mentor. [11:30.660 --> 11:37.780] Well first I'm going to file criminal charges against the chief of police with Judge Mentor. [11:37.780 --> 11:43.140] And when Judge Mentor doesn't issue a warrant, I'm going to go to the JP and file criminal [11:43.140 --> 11:51.100] charges against him for that and also against him for issuing, for sending me this letter. [11:51.100 --> 11:57.900] Now I'm pretty sure that the clerks just didn't know what to do. [11:57.900 --> 12:06.060] I gave them the ticket and I gave them a subject matter jurisdiction challenge. [12:06.060 --> 12:12.220] And they had no idea what to do with the pleading and I think they didn't realize that that [12:12.220 --> 12:15.220] was an appearance. [12:15.220 --> 12:22.900] Well, tough, deal with it guys. [12:22.900 --> 12:25.460] Well they should have just asked you for some legal advice, right? [12:25.460 --> 12:31.180] I mean, you would have probably helped them out if they would have asked, right? [12:31.180 --> 12:35.620] No, I wouldn't have. [12:35.620 --> 12:40.220] I was kind of hoping they'd do exactly what they did, screw things up. [12:40.220 --> 12:46.340] So now I'll file criminal charges against the judge for sending me this, but he probably [12:46.340 --> 12:48.620] didn't send me this. [12:48.620 --> 12:55.340] The clerks did because they didn't know how to log my appearance. [12:55.340 --> 13:02.860] They were going to ask me how I plead, but I bushwhacked them with these, with this motion. [13:02.860 --> 13:06.420] But they just, they always do the same thing to everybody. [13:06.420 --> 13:11.540] So I'll see if I can't give them a little education. [13:11.540 --> 13:15.860] There you go. [13:15.860 --> 13:22.100] Traffic is not my issue and it's not the fight I wanted to have, but sometimes these guys [13:22.100 --> 13:27.180] just have a way of kicking this soapbox up under my feet. [13:27.180 --> 13:28.180] Don't they? [13:28.180 --> 13:34.820] He pulled me over because he said my license plate was obscured. [13:34.820 --> 13:35.820] Obscured with what? [13:35.820 --> 13:36.820] He didn't specify. [13:36.820 --> 13:37.820] What, dust? [13:37.820 --> 13:40.980] What was on his plate? [13:40.980 --> 13:44.500] I went back there and took a photo of it and you could read it just fine. [13:44.500 --> 13:49.900] It was dented a little bit, why I'm bashing trailers into it, trying to hook up trailers, [13:49.900 --> 13:52.340] but it was perfectly legible. [13:52.340 --> 13:57.020] He was just bored and looking for a reason to pull somebody over. [13:57.020 --> 14:04.260] It seems like the last time I looked up that obscured, it had to have a substance that [14:04.260 --> 14:05.660] was coding it. [14:05.660 --> 14:11.420] You had to have something, a substance and it had to be not just anywhere on the plate, [14:11.420 --> 14:19.220] but it had to be making the letters and numbers of the serial illegible or it had to be making [14:19.220 --> 14:20.220] the... [14:20.220 --> 14:27.220] It had to be hindering, impeding, I forget the word they used, the legibility of the [14:27.220 --> 14:29.220] letters of the state. [14:29.220 --> 14:37.300] Well, I didn't go there and I won't go there. [14:37.300 --> 14:39.420] That goes to the merits. [14:39.420 --> 14:46.740] And it goes to the peace officer not knowing the boundaries of his story. [14:46.740 --> 14:49.340] He started just pulling out stuff for random reasons. [14:49.340 --> 14:54.220] Yeah, we're not even going to get to that part and that's what most everybody wants [14:54.220 --> 14:55.220] to do. [14:55.220 --> 14:58.580] They want to say, I'm innocent, I didn't do this, blah, blah, blah. [14:58.580 --> 15:00.980] He lied about my place being obscured. [15:00.980 --> 15:04.180] No, we're not going there. [15:04.180 --> 15:07.220] He didn't have authority to turn the lights on me in the first place. [15:07.220 --> 15:09.860] That's where we're going. [15:09.860 --> 15:15.580] And when he did that, he committed the first degree felony in the state of Texas. [15:15.580 --> 15:21.180] That's a lot more fun than a been up license plate. [15:21.180 --> 15:23.540] So he's not going to get... [15:23.540 --> 15:25.740] I'm not going to go to why he pulled me over. [15:25.740 --> 15:29.300] At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. [15:29.300 --> 15:35.300] And if I bring it up, then they'll jump right on that and start arguing the merits. [15:35.300 --> 15:36.940] No, no, no. [15:36.940 --> 15:39.900] I'm not getting sucked into that. [15:39.900 --> 15:44.540] We're going to talk about his authority or lack thereof. [15:44.540 --> 15:47.540] My clock is hidden somewhere. [15:47.540 --> 15:50.540] Oh, there it is. [15:50.540 --> 15:53.020] I thought I was about to jump off the cliff. [15:53.020 --> 15:54.020] Okay. [15:54.020 --> 15:56.900] I am turning on the phone lines. [15:56.900 --> 16:03.100] I'll call in number 512-646-1984. [16:03.100 --> 16:04.900] Did I say that slow enough, Brett? [16:04.900 --> 16:05.900] Yes, you did. [16:05.900 --> 16:08.980] And you can jump off the cliff in about 50 seconds. [16:08.980 --> 16:09.980] Okay. [16:09.980 --> 16:14.820] Brett keeps cautioning me about saying that too fast. [16:14.820 --> 16:17.740] So I have to be careful here. [16:17.740 --> 16:18.740] Okay. [16:18.740 --> 16:20.620] Phone lines are on. [16:20.620 --> 16:22.820] If you have a question or comment, give us a call. [16:22.820 --> 16:24.300] We'll be taking your calls all night. [16:24.300 --> 16:31.180] And if I seem to sound a little bit dingy, it's because I just drove back from Austin [16:31.180 --> 16:35.100] and I'm a little bit dingy. [16:35.100 --> 16:41.780] So you'll have to look out for me, Brett, because I'm old and decrepit. [16:41.780 --> 16:42.780] Okay. [16:42.780 --> 16:47.060] This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, and Wheel of Law Radio. [16:47.060 --> 16:52.580] And I started the outro a little bit too soon, and Brett thinks I'm going to go out too soon, [16:52.580 --> 16:53.580] but he doesn't know. [16:53.580 --> 16:56.820] I can always come up with some words to fill in some space. [16:56.820 --> 17:00.380] We'll be right back. [17:00.380 --> 17:05.260] Are you being harassed by debt collectors with phone calls, letters, or even lawsuits? 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[18:25.460 --> 18:29.420] Starting in January, our first hour studies are in the Book of Mark, where we'll go verse [18:29.420 --> 18:32.740] by verse and discuss the true Gospel message. [18:32.740 --> 18:37.380] Our second hour topical studies will vary each week with discussions on sound doctrine [18:37.380 --> 18:39.780] and Christian character development. [18:39.780 --> 18:44.300] We wish to reflect God's light and be a blessing to all those with a hearing ear. [18:44.300 --> 18:48.660] Our goal is to strengthen our faith and to transform ourselves more into the likeness [18:48.660 --> 18:50.260] of our Lord and Savior Jesus. [18:50.260 --> 18:57.500] So tune in to Scripture Talk live on LogosRadioNetwork.com, Wednesdays from 8 to 10 p.m. to inspire and [18:57.500 --> 19:23.260] motivate your studies of the Scriptures. [19:23.260 --> 19:48.820] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. [19:48.820 --> 19:52.500] We don't have any callers. [19:52.500 --> 19:59.820] Hey Brett, we should just do a seminar that I'm preparing. [19:59.820 --> 20:02.140] I think you worked on this as well. [20:02.140 --> 20:11.060] I keep getting people asking me about all of these codes that we keep throwing around. [20:11.060 --> 20:13.980] And I did a presentation in Fort Worth. [20:13.980 --> 20:21.060] It was kind of off the cuff, so it wasn't as organized as I would like it to be. [20:21.060 --> 20:31.980] There on a presentation board, I listed the codes that we use regularly and kind of walked [20:31.980 --> 20:37.020] down those codes to show how we use them. [20:37.020 --> 20:38.020] We could. [20:38.020 --> 20:42.620] Another thing, I just put out a poll, I thought I was going to be starting this out this evening [20:42.620 --> 20:48.940] while you were finishing up the drive, but since you got here, the poll says that people [20:48.940 --> 20:56.500] wanted to hear us start out talking about what to do in court, how to, basics of how [20:56.500 --> 20:59.700] to handle yourself in court, do's and don'ts. [20:59.700 --> 21:03.940] That was the number one answer from the poll here. [21:03.940 --> 21:10.780] Wow, that's a hard question. [21:10.780 --> 21:18.820] But there are some things, first, when you go into court, before you get there, you need [21:18.820 --> 21:27.480] to do your homework, get everything that you want before the court, in writing, in motions [21:27.480 --> 21:31.940] and pleadings filed with the court. [21:31.940 --> 21:36.940] Then if you're a pro se, if you're new at this, like I was in Austin this morning with [21:36.940 --> 21:43.980] someone who was new at this, and he screwed up, we didn't screw up big time. [21:43.980 --> 21:48.740] He was polite and professional to the court. [21:48.740 --> 21:51.980] So the court didn't have any gripe with him. [21:51.980 --> 21:56.480] He did have a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction before the court, when the lawyer [21:56.480 --> 22:02.260] came in and filed his second motion to withdraw. [22:02.260 --> 22:08.700] And Dan addressed the motion to withdraw, the judge asked him, he told him, said, well, [22:08.700 --> 22:14.100] Mr. DeVito, you can object if you want to, he said, I object. [22:14.100 --> 22:24.300] Then the judge set the motion for hearing in July, and I told him that as soon as they [22:24.300 --> 22:29.940] address that, then you tell the judge there's a motion before the court, this is a motion [22:29.940 --> 22:34.820] hearing is listed in the document, I want you to hear my challenge to subject matter [22:34.820 --> 22:40.020] jurisdiction that's before the court, and he forgot to do that. [22:40.020 --> 22:41.020] Oh my. [22:41.020 --> 22:48.740] Well, if you're new in court, if you haven't been in court very much, you're really stressed. [22:48.740 --> 22:51.740] Yeah, it's difficult to think of everything. [22:51.740 --> 22:55.260] Yeah, you're going to do that kind of stuff. [22:55.260 --> 22:57.780] No problemo. [22:57.780 --> 23:00.420] Do not worry about it. [23:00.420 --> 23:07.140] If you miss something, you can get it next time, or you can file what you want before [23:07.140 --> 23:09.140] the court in a document. [23:09.140 --> 23:17.580] When you go before the court, keep in mind the court has two duties. [23:17.580 --> 23:23.020] Determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence, then apply the law as it [23:23.020 --> 23:28.700] comes to him or her to the facts in the case. [23:28.700 --> 23:34.460] Now the judge can't go out and look up the law himself. [23:34.460 --> 23:41.700] You see that in some movies, there's some TV shows where the judge goes out and looks [23:41.700 --> 23:42.700] stuff up. [23:42.700 --> 23:45.060] No, he can't do that. [23:45.060 --> 23:53.540] He can only consider the law that's put in front of him, that's put on the record. [23:53.540 --> 24:01.020] So when you go before the court, you don't really care what the judge does, and that's [24:01.020 --> 24:03.300] where they get you. [24:03.300 --> 24:09.900] Dan was concerned about what the judge does, or is going to do, who cares? [24:09.900 --> 24:12.300] You're just there to set the record. [24:12.300 --> 24:17.220] Get the law and the facts on the record, and he's got them on the record in the form of [24:17.220 --> 24:19.940] a motion filed before the court. [24:19.940 --> 24:24.500] Now this was a motion hearing. [24:24.500 --> 24:29.300] There was a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction before the court. [24:29.300 --> 24:31.460] That's a pretty big deal motion. [24:31.460 --> 24:35.100] Yeah, it has to be heard before anything else. [24:35.100 --> 24:37.740] Exactly, it's the threshold. [24:37.740 --> 24:45.100] The judge can't step across the threshold of the court until he has addressed that subject [24:45.100 --> 24:48.540] matter jurisdiction challenge. [24:48.540 --> 24:50.740] Usually they don't address it. [24:50.740 --> 24:52.980] Oh, absolutely not. [24:52.980 --> 24:57.500] They want to just presume that they have jurisdiction. [24:57.500 --> 25:04.180] I heard a recording of a judge who, let me just tell you quickly, but there was a judge, [25:04.180 --> 25:11.580] I heard a recording, and this is so unusual, I'm so proud of this judge, he acknowledged [25:11.580 --> 25:16.460] that there was a challenge to subject jurisdiction before the court. [25:16.460 --> 25:23.140] He brought it up himself, the judge brought it up and said, look, this is before the court, [25:23.140 --> 25:26.980] and we can't really talk about any other issues until we talk about this one. [25:26.980 --> 25:29.180] This is the first bridge we come to. [25:29.180 --> 25:33.420] This is the first block in the flow chart. [25:33.420 --> 25:40.460] And we're going to bar grieve this one for not doing that, that he is not going to be [25:40.460 --> 25:53.740] happy with these lawyers because Dan filed it 60 days ago, and the prosecutor did not [25:53.740 --> 25:57.620] respond to it. [25:57.620 --> 26:02.740] So I told Dan, I told the judge that there's a subject matter jurisdiction challenge before [26:02.740 --> 26:08.660] the court, it's been filed for 60 days, prosecution did not respond, therefore the prosecution [26:08.660 --> 26:17.580] agrees with my challenge and move the court to summary judgment. [26:17.580 --> 26:21.980] That puts that motion to dismiss in a wonderful category called unopposed. [26:21.980 --> 26:22.980] Exactly. [26:22.980 --> 26:28.020] It's an unopposed motion to dismiss. [26:28.020 --> 26:33.820] Had one before the court and the judge did not hear it, that gets a judicial conduct [26:33.820 --> 26:34.820] complaint. [26:34.820 --> 26:45.180] The lawyer gets, well, he doesn't get a bar grievance. [26:45.180 --> 26:53.540] He was going to get a bar grievance, but I had the court docket and I said, it had the [26:53.540 --> 26:58.820] lawyer's name and the first name was Deidre. [26:58.820 --> 27:02.540] I said, your lawyer has a female first name? [27:02.540 --> 27:07.180] He said, oh no, that's not my lawyer, that's the head of the law firm. [27:07.180 --> 27:13.340] Oh yes, there you go. [27:13.340 --> 27:14.340] You wouldn't. [27:14.340 --> 27:15.340] Oh yes, I would. [27:15.340 --> 27:34.300] What's an easy little shyster going to do when we bargain his balls two or three times? [27:34.300 --> 27:36.740] With his name on the fact set. [27:36.740 --> 27:37.740] Yeah. [27:37.740 --> 27:44.380] Let him explain to her. [27:44.380 --> 27:51.900] I wanted to be removed from the case and Dan told him, no, I paid him $7,500 and now he [27:51.900 --> 27:55.940] wants another $10,000 and he hasn't done anything in my case. [27:55.940 --> 27:58.740] I don't want him to go anywhere. [27:58.740 --> 28:06.420] He didn't do that well, so the judge set it for hearing. [28:06.420 --> 28:08.900] Now we file against the judge. [28:08.900 --> 28:15.460] When you go in front of the judge, just be respectful. [28:15.460 --> 28:22.140] You don't have to respect the judge, but you have to show respect to the court. [28:22.140 --> 28:28.180] Do that and if you're respectful, you can do anything. [28:28.180 --> 28:35.180] Like in Conroe, when the judge said that since I wasn't an attorney, he was not going to [28:35.180 --> 28:36.820] accept my habeas corpus. [28:36.820 --> 28:41.900] I was very respectful when I turned to the bailiff and asked the bailiff to arrest the [28:41.900 --> 28:42.900] judge. [28:42.900 --> 28:45.100] Did you say please? [28:45.100 --> 28:49.700] No, but I was respectful. [28:49.700 --> 28:52.940] I ordered him to arrest the judge. [28:52.940 --> 29:00.700] As long as you are respectful and use a business like tone of voice, you don't get yourself [29:00.700 --> 29:06.580] into any problems with contempt for the most part. [29:06.580 --> 29:12.140] I've never been held in contempt except once and that's because I failed to appear at court. [29:12.140 --> 29:18.580] The judges P.O.ed at me and knew I was in Tennessee taking care of my 98-year-old mom. [29:18.580 --> 29:22.100] He said a hearing without notifying me so when I get back to town, he could throw me [29:22.100 --> 29:23.100] in jail. [29:23.100 --> 29:33.860] Well, I would have taken that on, but I had other fights with him and I had a number of [29:33.860 --> 29:39.300] criminal charges against him, but they can do that kind of stuff. [29:39.300 --> 29:42.540] Never raise your voice to the court. [29:42.540 --> 29:46.620] If the court annoys you, do your best not to let them know they annoy you. [29:46.620 --> 29:51.780] Your only purpose in the trial court is to set the record for appeal. 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[33:49.820 --> 33:52.820] When you gonna stop abuse? [33:52.820 --> 33:55.820] You know how I work. [33:56.820 --> 33:58.820] Okay, we are back. [33:58.820 --> 34:00.820] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. [34:00.820 --> 34:08.820] And on the break, Brett brought up a good point about how to handle yourself in court. [34:08.820 --> 34:10.820] Will you address that, Brett? [34:10.820 --> 34:11.820] Sure. [34:11.820 --> 34:16.820] Yeah, a couple of things came to my attention, to my mind about that. [34:16.820 --> 34:21.820] One was when you walk into the court, you want to look good. [34:21.820 --> 34:23.820] You want to have, you know, dress well. [34:23.820 --> 34:25.820] You know, if you got a suit jacket, throw that on. [34:25.820 --> 34:27.820] Don't go in there looking sloppy. [34:27.820 --> 34:28.820] Iron your shirt. [34:28.820 --> 34:35.820] Do, you know, look like you're, you're, you earn more money than the attorneys. [34:35.820 --> 34:38.820] Don't go in there looking sloppy. [34:38.820 --> 34:42.820] I walked in the court this morning with a friend of mine. [34:42.820 --> 34:47.820] I had on a suit, tie, pinstriped suit, tie. [34:49.820 --> 34:54.820] When you do that, they think you're a lawyer. [34:54.820 --> 34:56.820] And they treat you well. [34:57.820 --> 35:05.820] Court is not a place to demonstrate your political leanings. [35:06.820 --> 35:13.820] Go in there with a t-shirt that says, that says, elect Hunter Biden. [35:13.820 --> 35:15.820] Not the place to do that. [35:16.820 --> 35:18.820] Okay, go ahead. [35:18.820 --> 35:20.820] I'll be interrupting. [35:20.820 --> 35:23.820] That's another thing is about interrupting. [35:23.820 --> 35:29.820] The opposing counsel is well-trained to interrupt you and try to disturb you [35:29.820 --> 35:36.820] and try to get you knocked off your game and don't let them get under your skin. [35:36.820 --> 35:39.820] They're trying, specifically trying to get under your skin. [35:39.820 --> 35:44.820] And once you know that, you're, you're halfway winning already. [35:44.820 --> 35:50.820] Cause you realize that they're playing a game and they're trying to disturb you. [35:50.820 --> 35:52.820] So don't let them disturb you. [35:52.820 --> 35:55.820] Even the judge sometimes will do. [35:55.820 --> 36:00.820] I asked the judge, well, your honor, you're actually not allowed to do that. [36:00.820 --> 36:01.820] It doesn't matter. [36:01.820 --> 36:03.820] I'm doing it anyway. [36:03.820 --> 36:04.820] Okay. [36:04.820 --> 36:05.820] I object. [36:05.820 --> 36:07.820] Overruled. [36:07.820 --> 36:08.820] Okay. [36:08.820 --> 36:11.820] Defense raises an exception to the judicial error. [36:11.820 --> 36:15.820] Noted. [36:15.820 --> 36:19.820] And by this point, I've got a good attitude through the whole thing. [36:19.820 --> 36:25.820] Nobody's getting under my skin, but I am setting the record for appeal. [36:25.820 --> 36:27.820] Like you said, ready? [36:27.820 --> 36:30.820] You're getting under their skin. [36:30.820 --> 36:34.820] They are actually kind of fun. [36:34.820 --> 36:35.820] Yes. [36:35.820 --> 36:38.820] They're accustomed to being able to manipulate you. [36:38.820 --> 36:49.820] But when you go into court, the first time you go into court, you are absolutely going to blow the whole thing. [36:49.820 --> 36:51.820] So what? [36:51.820 --> 36:52.820] Deal with it. [36:52.820 --> 36:54.820] We all did it. [36:54.820 --> 36:59.820] How do you think Brett and I know how to handle ourselves in court? [36:59.820 --> 37:00.820] We screw up in court. [37:00.820 --> 37:03.820] That's how we know. [37:03.820 --> 37:06.820] You have a lot of skid knees along the way. [37:06.820 --> 37:08.820] That didn't work out so good. [37:08.820 --> 37:10.820] I'll do this different next time. [37:10.820 --> 37:16.820] And the worst thing for a court is for you to apologize to the court. [37:16.820 --> 37:19.820] They hate that. [37:19.820 --> 37:29.820] When you do something wrong and you apologize to the court for doing something wrong, that just takes the edge off of them. [37:29.820 --> 37:44.820] Everything you say in court, before you open your mouth, think what will play well before a grand jury of my peers. [37:44.820 --> 37:53.820] I think you've all heard me talk about asking a public official to take his chicken suit off. [37:53.820 --> 37:57.820] Guess why I do that? [37:57.820 --> 38:03.820] They want to say that Mr. Kelton was agitated. [38:03.820 --> 38:09.820] So I get to ask, when did I get agitated? [38:09.820 --> 38:15.820] Before I asked you to take your chicken suit off or after? [38:15.820 --> 38:23.820] Always, what will play well before a grand jury of my peers? [38:23.820 --> 38:30.820] You keep that in your mind, it will keep a civil tongue in your head. [38:30.820 --> 38:32.820] That will probably do you as much as anything. [38:32.820 --> 38:35.820] It doesn't matter what you do, it doesn't matter how big of a mistake you make. [38:35.820 --> 38:42.820] There's almost nothing you can do in front of the court that can't be repaired. [38:42.820 --> 38:46.820] And you can always say, I object. [38:46.820 --> 38:52.820] You can butt in if something feels wrong, something's not going right, you feel it in your gut, [38:52.820 --> 38:56.820] you don't exactly know what it is, but because you're just starting out, [38:56.820 --> 39:01.820] you're not sure whether to say that your objection is about hearsay or it's about relevance, [39:01.820 --> 39:05.820] but you know something's not right. [39:05.820 --> 39:07.820] They're trying to pull something. [39:07.820 --> 39:11.820] The lawyers try to testify to facts or something, and it's just not right. [39:11.820 --> 39:13.820] So you just say, I object. [39:13.820 --> 39:18.820] And then things will stop and the judge will want to know why you're objecting, [39:18.820 --> 39:21.820] unless they just don't care. [39:21.820 --> 39:26.820] A lot of times, if they ask you why you're objecting, you can say, I'm not sure yet. [39:26.820 --> 39:30.820] I know something's wrong with that, but I'm not sure exactly what it is. [39:30.820 --> 39:33.820] Be frank with them. [39:33.820 --> 39:40.820] Think in terms of what you can do to primarily make yourself look reasonable. [39:40.820 --> 39:42.820] You're not a professional. [39:42.820 --> 39:45.820] You're not expected to be a professional. [39:45.820 --> 39:52.820] But just make yourself look sincere, polite, respectful, and sincere. [39:52.820 --> 39:55.820] Truthful, you're acting in good faith. [39:55.820 --> 39:56.820] Yeah. [39:56.820 --> 40:01.820] And that will get you through your first two or three times in court. [40:01.820 --> 40:07.820] About the third time you get in court, you'll begin to get it. [40:07.820 --> 40:11.820] The first time, your knees will be knocking together and you'll barely be able to talk [40:11.820 --> 40:14.820] and you'll just be terrified. [40:14.820 --> 40:21.820] And at the end of the day, when it's all over, you'll still be alive. [40:21.820 --> 40:24.820] The second time, you'll do a little bit better, [40:24.820 --> 40:28.820] but you'll still feel like crap when you come out. [40:28.820 --> 40:30.820] But you're also alive. [40:30.820 --> 40:34.820] By the third time, and that's all it takes, guys, [40:34.820 --> 40:41.820] the third time you walk into the courtroom, you'll begin to get your seed legs under you. [40:41.820 --> 40:47.820] You've been in there, you said the wrong things, and they didn't shoot you. [40:47.820 --> 40:50.820] They didn't grab you up and throw you in jail. [40:50.820 --> 40:54.820] As long as you don't scream and cuss and threat, [40:54.820 --> 40:57.820] they're not going to grab you up and throw you in jail. [40:57.820 --> 41:01.820] And when that don't happen, three times is all you need. [41:01.820 --> 41:03.820] Brett, what do you think? [41:03.820 --> 41:06.820] Yeah, I think that's true. [41:06.820 --> 41:11.820] I guess some people, they might be, even on the second time, [41:11.820 --> 41:14.820] they might start to feel like they're not so shaky. [41:14.820 --> 41:19.820] But yeah, once you just feel for... [41:19.820 --> 41:26.820] First time I went to court, I thought I was going to vomit. [41:26.820 --> 41:30.820] And then the court found me incredibly guilty. [41:30.820 --> 41:34.820] It was a disaster. [41:34.820 --> 41:38.820] But when the court was over, incredibly guilty, [41:38.820 --> 41:42.820] I knew that the foreman on the jury knew me personally. [41:42.820 --> 41:46.820] It was before Judge Plum Raspberry. [41:46.820 --> 41:52.820] Plum Raspberry was one of my favorite human beings on planet Earth. [41:52.820 --> 41:56.820] You could not know Plum Raspberry and not like Plum Raspberry. [41:56.820 --> 41:58.820] She was absolutely a sweetheart. [41:58.820 --> 42:02.820] Her name was actually Elizabeth Plum Raspberry. [42:02.820 --> 42:04.820] And the jury came back. [42:04.820 --> 42:09.820] We, the jury, find the defendant incredibly guilty. [42:09.820 --> 42:12.820] And Plum said, incredibly guilty? [42:12.820 --> 42:16.820] Yes, Your Honor, incredibly guilty. [42:16.820 --> 42:20.820] But that actually helped me. [42:20.820 --> 42:23.820] And I think the foreman kind of knew that. [42:23.820 --> 42:25.820] He knew how nervous I was. [42:25.820 --> 42:29.820] So he kind of made a joke out of it. [42:29.820 --> 42:31.820] But it didn't matter what they do. [42:31.820 --> 42:33.820] The first time you go in there, [42:33.820 --> 42:37.820] you're going to be struggling to keep from throwing up. [42:37.820 --> 42:39.820] Your knees are going to be knocking together. [42:39.820 --> 42:43.820] You're going to feel like you're standing in front of the principal. [42:43.820 --> 42:46.820] By the third time you go in there, [42:46.820 --> 42:49.820] you're going to feel like a parent going to the principal [42:49.820 --> 42:53.820] and know what the hell you're doing to my kids. [42:53.820 --> 42:54.820] That's all it takes. [42:54.820 --> 42:58.820] So if you're afraid of court, just go in there and dive in. [42:58.820 --> 43:04.820] Who here learned to swim by being thrown in the pool? [43:04.820 --> 43:06.820] You didn't drown. [43:06.820 --> 43:07.820] It terrified you. [43:07.820 --> 43:12.820] You hit the water and you splashed and you kicked and somebody drug you out. [43:12.820 --> 43:14.820] You didn't die. [43:14.820 --> 43:17.820] Courts like that. [43:17.820 --> 43:21.820] Twice in court, three times in court, you're good. [43:21.820 --> 43:27.820] So I guess my advice to you is go to court three times. [43:27.820 --> 43:31.820] By the third time you've got your feet under you, all this terror is gone. [43:31.820 --> 43:37.820] Now you can begin to get down to business. [43:37.820 --> 43:41.820] We had a first-time caller and we dropped off again. [43:41.820 --> 43:44.820] This is Randy Kelton, Brett Felton, Riverlaw Radio. [43:44.820 --> 43:47.820] When we come back, we'll go to our callers. [43:47.820 --> 43:51.820] We got Tina on board, but we had a first-time caller. [43:51.820 --> 43:55.820] Maybe he'll be back by the time we get through our sponsors. [43:55.820 --> 43:57.820] Hang on. [43:57.820 --> 44:26.820] We'll be right back. 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[45:42.820 --> 45:49.820] You'll receive our audio classroom, video seminar, tutorials, forms for civil cases, [45:49.820 --> 45:52.820] process tactics, and much more. [45:52.820 --> 46:01.820] Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner or call toll-free, 866-LAW-EZ. [46:01.820 --> 46:19.820] If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one? [46:19.820 --> 46:25.820] If you could not wait any longer, would your purpose test be done? [46:25.820 --> 46:31.820] Such a sentimental soldier, a warrior of law, scaffolding their chiefs of heat. [46:31.820 --> 46:37.820] All they're taking is a misunderstanding, and somebody calls the police. [46:37.820 --> 47:00.820] Watching the sparks fly. [47:00.820 --> 47:03.820] Are you ready to go in? [47:03.820 --> 47:10.820] I'm ready. [47:10.820 --> 47:12.820] Beep us, Bubba. [47:12.820 --> 47:14.820] You're in. [47:14.820 --> 47:17.820] We're in? [47:17.820 --> 47:19.820] Oh my, I didn't hear the beep. [47:19.820 --> 47:20.820] Okay, okay. [47:20.820 --> 47:22.820] We're in, we're in. [47:22.820 --> 47:32.820] We got a first-time caller, and I was just thinking of a really nice piano tune by Mozart. [47:32.820 --> 47:43.820] We're going to start out by talking to Elise. [47:43.820 --> 47:49.820] Everything from here forward is for Elise. [47:49.820 --> 47:52.820] Okay, at least you are unmuted. [47:52.820 --> 47:57.820] I guess you get a lot of joking about your name. [47:57.820 --> 48:02.820] A little bit, just every now and then. [48:02.820 --> 48:06.820] I'm very, very nervous, you guys, so, you know, go easy on me. [48:06.820 --> 48:09.820] Well, we're glad you called. [48:09.820 --> 48:15.820] Yes, we are, and Deborah kind of gave us an introduction. [48:15.820 --> 48:25.820] You filed a small claims suit against a dentist, and he removed it to a different court. [48:25.820 --> 48:31.820] In Arizona, what defines small claims court? [48:31.820 --> 48:35.820] $3,500 and under. [48:35.820 --> 48:41.820] And what court did the lawyer remove it to? [48:41.820 --> 48:49.820] Consolidated Justice Court, $10,000 and under. [48:49.820 --> 48:54.820] How is that different than small claims? [48:54.820 --> 49:00.820] You can appeal, and you can be represented by a lawyer. [49:00.820 --> 49:08.820] Under what circumstances are you allowed to remove a case to this court? [49:08.820 --> 49:12.820] Let me explain why I said that. [49:12.820 --> 49:22.820] Let's say you file a case in a state court, and you reference the federal Constitution. [49:22.820 --> 49:30.820] That gives the defendant the standing to remove it to the federal court. [49:30.820 --> 49:42.820] There has to be something that gives the defendant the power to choose their jurisdiction. [49:42.820 --> 49:46.820] If you filed it with a court that has jurisdiction, [49:46.820 --> 49:50.820] he has to have some reason to remove it to another court. [49:50.820 --> 49:53.820] Did he state what that reason was? [49:53.820 --> 50:02.820] I am looking for it at the moment, but during the whole process, in the beginning, [50:02.820 --> 50:14.820] the clerk had mentioned that once a motion of venue change is submitted in Arizona, [50:14.820 --> 50:18.820] everybody is allowed to be represented by a lawyer, and it gets approved. [50:18.820 --> 50:21.820] I got that point. [50:21.820 --> 50:28.820] What I want to know is how he got to the venue change. [50:28.820 --> 50:32.820] Did you oppose the venue change? [50:32.820 --> 50:40.820] At the time, I was very new, and I didn't have the court, but I sent in a memorandum contract. [50:40.820 --> 50:45.820] A memorandum contract. What does that mean? [50:45.820 --> 50:53.820] I had called it a contra, or it was suggested to me, opposing the venue change. [50:53.820 --> 50:56.820] I can look for that if you want. [50:56.820 --> 51:01.820] Okay. You can have a lot of fun with this. [51:01.820 --> 51:12.820] It's a relatively small amount, and we will show you how to kick that lawyer's behind every way from Sunday, [51:12.820 --> 51:16.820] and he don't even get to complain about it. [51:16.820 --> 51:23.820] But before we get there, go ahead. [51:23.820 --> 51:29.820] The original lawyer, Judge, recused herself. [51:29.820 --> 51:36.820] He already has one bar grievance from me, and he just withdrew himself from the case. [51:36.820 --> 51:39.820] He withdrew himself from the case. [51:39.820 --> 51:44.820] You're already having fun. [51:44.820 --> 51:46.820] You're already a step ahead of us. [51:46.820 --> 51:52.820] I like this girl already. [51:52.820 --> 51:58.820] Okay. You filed a bar grievance against him, and he hit the road. [51:58.820 --> 52:05.820] Did the defendant hire another lawyer? [52:05.820 --> 52:09.820] The withdrawing happened today. [52:09.820 --> 52:16.820] He received an email, and he told me to continue, or she, the assistant, [52:16.820 --> 52:21.820] told me to continue communicating with them until I received it in the mail. [52:21.820 --> 52:26.820] I received the withdrawal, and I did see that he made a payment on the docket. [52:26.820 --> 52:32.820] I don't see the motion yet uploaded or scanned, rather. [52:32.820 --> 52:38.820] Okay, the motion to withdraw, that will, you will not have standing in that. [52:38.820 --> 52:45.820] That will be between the defendant and the lawyer. [52:45.820 --> 52:49.820] Odd, you should bring this up, because I was just in a hearing today [52:49.820 --> 52:57.820] where the guy I'm helping, his lawyer, filed a second motion to withdraw, [52:57.820 --> 53:02.820] and he objected to it, but you're not on that side. [53:02.820 --> 53:11.820] So what's likely to happen here, you already know how to have fun with these guys. [53:11.820 --> 53:16.820] I think this dentist doesn't understand how deep the border he is. [53:16.820 --> 53:21.820] He just dove off into a bar grievance lawyer, [53:21.820 --> 53:23.820] and it probably doubled his malpractice insurance, [53:23.820 --> 53:29.820] and that generally starts between $15,000 and $25,000 a year. [53:29.820 --> 53:30.820] So he withdrew. [53:30.820 --> 53:33.820] I was going to, yeah, he withdrew. [53:33.820 --> 53:36.820] Go ahead, please. [53:36.820 --> 53:37.820] I'm so sorry. [53:37.820 --> 53:39.820] No, no, please. [53:39.820 --> 53:40.820] Oh, wait, wait. [53:40.820 --> 53:43.820] Let me give you a little bit of instruction. [53:43.820 --> 53:47.820] On the radio, we have suppressors. [53:47.820 --> 53:54.820] If I'm talking and you try to talk, the suppressor will push your voice down below me. [53:54.820 --> 53:55.820] I have to be careful. [53:55.820 --> 53:59.820] If I get any background noise, it will shut your voice off. [53:59.820 --> 54:06.820] So if you want to say something, you start to speak, give me a second, [54:06.820 --> 54:11.820] and I'll finish whatever I'm saying, and I'll stop and then let you step in. [54:11.820 --> 54:15.820] If you both talk at the same time, you just get buried. [54:15.820 --> 54:27.820] Okay, I'll shut up now, as long as you don't sick that dog on me. [54:27.820 --> 54:33.820] I was ready to bar grieve a second time because they told me not to communicate with the defendant, [54:33.820 --> 54:36.820] which I know is not the right, I'm not a lawyer. [54:36.820 --> 54:44.820] But he withdrew, and he said that he and the defendant, I'm trying to look for it now [54:44.820 --> 54:49.820] and my computer is, of course, slowing down, so I can't find it. [54:49.820 --> 54:51.820] Okay, hold on a second. [54:51.820 --> 54:54.820] Let's speak to this. [54:54.820 --> 54:56.820] This is how this works. [54:56.820 --> 55:02.820] When both parties have lawyers, the contracts with the lawyers [55:02.820 --> 55:09.820] stipulate that the client will not talk to opposing a client. [55:09.820 --> 55:15.820] But that only works when both sides have lawyers. [55:15.820 --> 55:22.820] You don't have a lawyer, and you did not agree not to talk with the opposing party. [55:22.820 --> 55:31.820] Now, the opposing party has a contract with his lawyer where he's forbidden to talk to you. [55:31.820 --> 55:33.820] No problem, not your problem. [55:33.820 --> 55:35.820] You're not in that contract. [55:35.820 --> 55:42.820] So as far as your concerned, he used that contract for toilet paper. [55:42.820 --> 55:45.820] Does that make sense? [55:45.820 --> 55:47.820] Yes. [55:47.820 --> 55:49.820] It's a subtle distinction. [55:49.820 --> 55:56.820] They want to keep the clients apart so that the lawyers can control the issue [55:56.820 --> 56:02.820] and extract as much money from their clients as possible. [56:02.820 --> 56:07.820] One of the powers of pro se is you don't have a lawyer, [56:07.820 --> 56:15.820] and you're not into a contract with the lawyer that forbids you to talk to the other client. [56:15.820 --> 56:21.820] So you can talk to the other client and tell him what a company's lawyer is. [56:21.820 --> 56:28.820] There's nothing that all you can do about it but complain. [56:28.820 --> 56:38.820] Okay, with that said, almost always when a lawyer moves to withdraw, [56:38.820 --> 56:47.820] the judge will always grant it unless the lawyer's client objects to it. [56:47.820 --> 56:55.820] If the lawyer's client objects to it, the judge will not let him withdraw. [56:55.820 --> 57:01.820] Because if he does, he has interfered with a private contract, [57:01.820 --> 57:10.820] and the Constitution forbids him to do that, and that makes him suable personally. [57:10.820 --> 57:14.820] And like the guy I'm helping, he had a lawyer pay him $7,500. [57:14.820 --> 57:19.820] The lawyer did nothing, and then he wanted to withdraw, [57:19.820 --> 57:24.820] and the client wanted to get a new lawyer who would actually do so. [57:24.820 --> 57:27.820] Now you're not going to get a lawyer who would do something. [57:27.820 --> 57:29.820] They all do the same thing. [57:29.820 --> 57:37.820] The lawyer's only job in a criminal case is to make sure the client doesn't have grounds for appeal. [57:37.820 --> 57:42.820] They're going to throw you under the bus because if they don't, the judge will be upset at them. [57:42.820 --> 57:45.820] A civil case is somewhat different. [57:45.820 --> 57:55.820] The lawyer wants to bully you. If you don't have a lawyer, he feels like he can bully you all over the place. [57:55.820 --> 58:00.820] And it appears as though you already know how to handle him. [58:00.820 --> 58:04.820] You just sent him back in real quick. [58:04.820 --> 58:08.820] Now the dentist is going to have to hire another lawyer, [58:08.820 --> 58:14.820] and it will cost him more for the lawyer than you're suing him for. [58:14.820 --> 58:23.820] So what I suggest is send a letter to the dentist offering a deal. [58:23.820 --> 58:29.820] I sue you for $10,000, give me $9,500, and I'll go away. [58:29.820 --> 58:34.820] I did that, something similar to that. [58:34.820 --> 58:38.820] Man, why are you calling us? We should be calling you. [58:38.820 --> 58:39.820] No, no, no. [58:39.820 --> 58:41.820] You got this down. [58:41.820 --> 58:44.820] No, I really don't. I sent an offer to the... [58:44.820 --> 58:49.820] Okay, wait, wait, hold on. About to go to our sponsors. 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[01:00:54.820 --> 01:00:57.820] That shocking image of a third party in my parents' bed [01:00:57.820 --> 01:01:00.820] reminds me what the Third Amendment was designed to prevent. [01:01:00.820 --> 01:01:03.820] It protects us from being forced to share our homes with soldiers, [01:01:03.820 --> 01:01:06.820] a common demand in the days of our founding fathers. [01:01:06.820 --> 01:01:09.820] Third party, Third Amendment? Get it? [01:01:09.820 --> 01:01:12.820] So if you answer a knock at your door and guys in fatigues demand lodging, [01:01:12.820 --> 01:01:17.820] tell them to dust off their copy of the Bill of Rights and reread the Third Amendment. [01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:31.820] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:01:31.820 --> 01:01:35.820] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution. [01:01:35.820 --> 01:01:38.820] They guarantee you the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. 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[01:02:15.820 --> 01:02:18.820] Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, [01:02:18.820 --> 01:02:21.820] a magnifying glass or a pair of x-ray goggles. [01:02:21.820 --> 01:02:25.820] That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom [01:02:25.820 --> 01:02:27.820] from unreasonable search and seizure. [01:02:27.820 --> 01:02:30.820] Fourth Amendment, four eyes staring at you, get it? [01:02:30.820 --> 01:02:33.820] Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights [01:02:33.820 --> 01:02:35.820] in the name of security. [01:02:35.820 --> 01:02:39.820] Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing. [01:02:39.820 --> 01:02:43.820] When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause, [01:02:43.820 --> 01:02:46.820] I say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells. [01:02:46.820 --> 01:02:49.820] Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights [01:02:49.820 --> 01:02:53.820] and use their googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth. [01:02:53.820 --> 01:03:21.820] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:03:23.820 --> 01:03:43.820] OK, we are back. [01:03:43.820 --> 01:03:47.820] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday, [01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:56.820] the 14th day of April, 2022, and we're talking to Elise in Arizona, [01:03:56.820 --> 01:03:58.820] and I'm trying to unmute you. [01:03:58.820 --> 01:04:01.820] OK, it took. OK, you're unmuted. [01:04:01.820 --> 01:04:10.820] And all of the things we would tell you to do, you already done that. [01:04:10.820 --> 01:04:16.820] At the end of the day, you can never expect to win your case [01:04:16.820 --> 01:04:21.820] simply because you have the law and the facts on your side. [01:04:21.820 --> 01:04:24.820] To think so is naive. [01:04:24.820 --> 01:04:29.820] You can expect to win your case if you have the politics on your side, [01:04:29.820 --> 01:04:33.820] and all politics is local. [01:04:33.820 --> 01:04:35.820] But I'm really not telling you that. [01:04:35.820 --> 01:04:42.820] I'm telling everybody else that because you obviously already know that. [01:04:42.820 --> 01:04:48.820] Well, you know, I believe your words because I trust you both, [01:04:48.820 --> 01:04:49.820] and you're very generous. [01:04:49.820 --> 01:04:52.820] I don't feel like I'm doing well at all. [01:04:52.820 --> 01:04:58.820] But this is the worst experience of my life. [01:04:58.820 --> 01:05:01.820] Oh, it can turn into the best. [01:05:01.820 --> 01:05:05.820] You are kicking their behinds. [01:05:05.820 --> 01:05:09.820] The first thing you do is this is what we tell people. [01:05:09.820 --> 01:05:13.820] If the other side's got a lawyer, you want to bar-grieve him. [01:05:13.820 --> 01:05:17.820] And when you bar-grieve him, most likely you're going to double his malpractice insurance [01:05:17.820 --> 01:05:20.820] and he's going to head for the hills. [01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:27.820] And then the client, then the defendant of the opposing party has to hire another lawyer. [01:05:27.820 --> 01:05:32.820] And that other lawyer is going to know why you lost the first lawyer. [01:05:32.820 --> 01:05:38.820] He's going to charge you a lot of money because he can expect to get bar-grieved. [01:05:38.820 --> 01:05:44.820] And if he even takes representation, he might not want to represent because he knows. [01:05:44.820 --> 01:05:55.820] This dentist may have a hard time finding a lawyer who is willing to face you. [01:05:55.820 --> 01:05:58.820] You know what their weakness is. [01:05:58.820 --> 01:06:02.820] It's not about the facts, it's not about the laws, it's about the politics. [01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:06.820] And the politics always follows the money. [01:06:06.820 --> 01:06:13.820] You know how to stick your boot up the lawyer's professional behind. [01:06:13.820 --> 01:06:23.820] And in a small claims case like this, you probably just cost that lawyer 15 grand. [01:06:23.820 --> 01:06:26.820] 15 to 25 grand. [01:06:26.820 --> 01:06:33.820] Malpractice insurance starts at between 15 and 25 grand, depending on where you're at. [01:06:33.820 --> 01:06:38.820] And if it's his first year of practice, they cancel immediately. [01:06:38.820 --> 01:06:42.820] One bar grievance, they cancel immediately. [01:06:42.820 --> 01:06:46.820] Two bar grievances, any one year of practice, they cancel. [01:06:46.820 --> 01:06:50.820] Three, they cancel your law firms' malpractice insurance. [01:06:50.820 --> 01:06:54.820] Valid, invalid, they don't care. [01:06:54.820 --> 01:06:57.820] This is the lawyer's Achilles heel. [01:06:57.820 --> 01:06:59.820] You know what it is. [01:06:59.820 --> 01:07:04.820] Now they know you know what it is. [01:07:04.820 --> 01:07:06.820] Good luck, Mr. Hatches. [01:07:06.820 --> 01:07:14.820] If that lawyer who was representing him stood to gain, let's say, $145 out of this deal, [01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:19.820] and he thought it was going to be just a simple copy and paste, hit send, [01:07:19.820 --> 01:07:26.820] and then he gets another little trickle, and all of a sudden you cost him all this money, [01:07:26.820 --> 01:07:31.820] and of course he's going to run for the hills. [01:07:31.820 --> 01:07:33.820] Just look at the dollars. [01:07:33.820 --> 01:07:37.820] Look at the effect that you had on him. [01:07:37.820 --> 01:07:41.820] Well, you are a part of this, Brett, because you helped me. [01:07:41.820 --> 01:07:46.820] I'm on Telegram, and Randy as well, and all these Telegram pages, [01:07:46.820 --> 01:07:48.820] so this was definitely not... [01:07:48.820 --> 01:07:51.820] Wait, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. [01:07:51.820 --> 01:07:56.820] You mentioned Brett first. [01:07:56.820 --> 01:07:58.820] That's because I'm so nervous. [01:07:58.820 --> 01:08:05.820] That's the only reason, because I'm so nervous. [01:08:05.820 --> 01:08:09.820] I was afraid you were going to mention Eddie Craig next. [01:08:09.820 --> 01:08:17.820] We pick on Eddie Craig because the only reason we pick on Eddie Craig is because he deserves it. [01:08:17.820 --> 01:08:21.820] I'm just kidding. This is great. [01:08:21.820 --> 01:08:28.820] When we get someone who never told us you were concerned, that you were frightened about what to do, [01:08:28.820 --> 01:08:32.820] you're doing everything right. [01:08:32.820 --> 01:08:36.820] It's not about the laws, it's not about the facts. [01:08:36.820 --> 01:08:39.820] It's about kicking their behinds, and you seem to have that. [01:08:39.820 --> 01:08:44.820] What do you want to know from us at this point? [01:08:44.820 --> 01:08:48.820] Okay. I sent an offer. [01:08:48.820 --> 01:08:52.820] I sent an offer for the same amount, which was a mistake. [01:08:52.820 --> 01:08:54.820] I should have offered a lesser amount. [01:08:54.820 --> 01:08:57.820] I did offer a payment plan. [01:08:57.820 --> 01:08:59.820] Hold on, hold on, hold on. [01:08:59.820 --> 01:09:02.820] You did not make a mistake. [01:09:02.820 --> 01:09:06.820] You sent an offer. [01:09:06.820 --> 01:09:11.820] Now the ball's in his court to make a counteroffer. [01:09:11.820 --> 01:09:15.820] This is poker. [01:09:15.820 --> 01:09:20.820] You lowball, you sent a high amount to him. [01:09:20.820 --> 01:09:26.820] You can expect in a negotiation for the other side to come back and send you a lowball amount. [01:09:26.820 --> 01:09:28.820] You want 10 grand? [01:09:28.820 --> 01:09:36.820] You have indicated your willingness to mediate or to negotiate. [01:09:36.820 --> 01:09:39.820] So he'll send you an offer of 100 bucks. [01:09:39.820 --> 01:09:42.820] You'll send him a counteroffer for nine grand. [01:09:42.820 --> 01:09:45.820] He'll send you a counteroffer for one. [01:09:45.820 --> 01:09:50.820] Then you bounce you back and forth until you come to something you can agree with. [01:09:50.820 --> 01:09:53.820] You'll come out around five grand at the end. [01:09:53.820 --> 01:10:02.820] Everybody gets to save face, and he won't have to pay for any more lawyers. [01:10:02.820 --> 01:10:08.820] Well, and so what I think happened, I consider myself very, very intuitive, [01:10:08.820 --> 01:10:16.820] and what I think, tomorrow was the expiration date of my offer and of business day, [01:10:16.820 --> 01:10:18.820] and he withdrew today. [01:10:18.820 --> 01:10:21.820] I think he offered it to her, and she said no. [01:10:21.820 --> 01:10:24.820] She's very, very upset with me that I took her to court. [01:10:24.820 --> 01:10:26.820] Okay, okay, hold on. [01:10:26.820 --> 01:10:30.820] She, I hate pronouns. [01:10:30.820 --> 01:10:33.820] Who does she refer to? [01:10:33.820 --> 01:10:35.820] The dentist, the dentist. [01:10:35.820 --> 01:10:38.820] Oh, okay, the dentist is a she. [01:10:38.820 --> 01:10:41.820] So the, okay, good, good. [01:10:41.820 --> 01:10:42.820] You made the offer. [01:10:42.820 --> 01:10:44.820] The lawyer took the offer to the dentist. [01:10:44.820 --> 01:10:46.820] The dentist rejected it. [01:10:46.820 --> 01:10:51.820] Okay, now it's time for the dentist to give a counteroffer, [01:10:51.820 --> 01:10:54.820] and if the dentist doesn't give a counteroffer, [01:10:54.820 --> 01:11:00.820] then you ask the court to order mediation. [01:11:00.820 --> 01:11:02.820] Well, something's wrong here. [01:11:02.820 --> 01:11:05.820] Wait a minute. [01:11:05.820 --> 01:11:09.820] The dentist should have insurance handling this. [01:11:09.820 --> 01:11:15.820] Why isn't the dentist represented by a lawyer from the insurance company? [01:11:15.820 --> 01:11:18.820] That's a good question. [01:11:18.820 --> 01:11:22.820] Something's wrong, Elise. [01:11:22.820 --> 01:11:26.820] She may not have insurance. [01:11:26.820 --> 01:11:30.820] Now, I just talked to a friend of mine who is a clinical psychologist, [01:11:30.820 --> 01:11:36.820] and he says he can't, he has to, they have to renew their license every year. [01:11:36.820 --> 01:11:45.820] In order to renew his license, he has to give them evidence of insurance. [01:11:45.820 --> 01:11:50.820] Now, we're in Texas, a lawyer in Texas can represent clients without insurance, [01:11:50.820 --> 01:11:53.820] and that's unusual, most states require it. [01:11:53.820 --> 01:12:01.820] Other professionals have to have insurance, I think, except plumbers and electricians. [01:12:01.820 --> 01:12:03.820] This guy's a medical profession. [01:12:03.820 --> 01:12:07.820] I'm going to bet she is required to have insurance. [01:12:07.820 --> 01:12:15.820] So would you say put in a discovery request to see current insurance? [01:12:15.820 --> 01:12:22.820] Okay, Elise, this is how it generally works with errors in admissions policies. [01:12:22.820 --> 01:12:26.820] If you have an errors in admissions policy and something occurs [01:12:26.820 --> 01:12:34.820] for which you could potentially be sued or be liable under the policy, [01:12:34.820 --> 01:12:38.820] you must notice the policyholder. [01:12:38.820 --> 01:12:43.820] If you don't notice the policyholder, you're not covered. [01:12:43.820 --> 01:12:49.820] There's a good chance that this dentist hasn't notified the insurance company, [01:12:49.820 --> 01:12:56.820] or they would have provided him with counsel or her with counsel. [01:12:56.820 --> 01:12:59.820] It's all politics. [01:12:59.820 --> 01:13:08.820] Is it possible he is the counsel from the insurance company or no, because he withdrew? [01:13:08.820 --> 01:13:17.820] If the lawyer is trying to withdraw, there's very little chance he's a lawyer for the insurance company. [01:13:17.820 --> 01:13:19.820] Okay. [01:13:19.820 --> 01:13:22.820] It sounds like she hired private counsel, [01:13:22.820 --> 01:13:30.820] and she's trying to keep this from her insurance company so they don't raise her rates. [01:13:30.820 --> 01:13:38.820] You might ask for her insurance coverage. [01:13:38.820 --> 01:13:47.820] If you're in Arizona, call the agency that licenses dentists [01:13:47.820 --> 01:13:55.820] and ask them if a dentist is required to carry errors in admissions policies. [01:13:55.820 --> 01:14:01.820] I'm relatively sure of what the answer will be. [01:14:01.820 --> 01:14:09.820] And then you file a, if they're required to, since you have filed suit, [01:14:09.820 --> 01:14:14.820] and the insurance carrier did not provide counsel, [01:14:14.820 --> 01:14:24.820] you have reason to believe that the dentist did not give notice to the insurer. [01:14:24.820 --> 01:14:32.820] I'm sorry, you have reason to believe that the dentist does not have this required insurance, [01:14:32.820 --> 01:14:39.820] or you would have an insurance company lawyer and you don't against you. [01:14:39.820 --> 01:14:45.820] This will cause the sky to fall in on the dentist, [01:14:45.820 --> 01:14:56.820] and you will become a minor issue relative to what they were doing to her. [01:14:56.820 --> 01:15:06.820] Would you think that that would be good to ask for and then immediately move for an order to mediate? [01:15:06.820 --> 01:15:13.820] Because if this whole thing goes away before the dentist has to get in trouble for not having insurance, [01:15:13.820 --> 01:15:21.820] the dentist might really prefer that. [01:15:21.820 --> 01:15:23.820] Well, let me ask another question. [01:15:23.820 --> 01:15:31.820] What do you want at the end of the day? [01:15:31.820 --> 01:15:39.820] I wanted the refund that she promised me, and then I want this to go. [01:15:39.820 --> 01:15:45.820] I spent more money than the refund. [01:15:45.820 --> 01:15:50.820] So you want to be made whole? [01:15:50.820 --> 01:15:53.820] Well, I could be made whole by myself. [01:15:53.820 --> 01:15:57.820] I don't need something external, right, that includes her or anything else. [01:15:57.820 --> 01:16:00.820] No, that's not what I meant by that term. [01:16:00.820 --> 01:16:12.820] By you being made whole, you receive recompense for all of your cost and damages. [01:16:12.820 --> 01:16:14.820] So it's your square? [01:16:14.820 --> 01:16:15.820] Yes. [01:16:15.820 --> 01:16:17.820] Like right now they owe you? [01:16:17.820 --> 01:16:18.820] Yes. [01:16:18.820 --> 01:16:21.820] That's all he means about that. [01:16:21.820 --> 01:16:24.820] Yeah, that wasn't a philosophical term. [01:16:24.820 --> 01:16:26.820] That was a monetary term. [01:16:26.820 --> 01:16:36.820] For everything that they cost you, including the time and trouble you've had to go to and emotional distress, [01:16:36.820 --> 01:16:40.820] you want to have the dentist to make you whole. [01:16:40.820 --> 01:16:45.820] And since they moved you to this court, what are the limits? [01:16:45.820 --> 01:16:47.820] Sorry about that. [01:16:47.820 --> 01:16:50.820] What are the limits in this court? [01:16:50.820 --> 01:16:51.820] That's a good point. [01:16:51.820 --> 01:16:52.820] It'll be a higher number. [01:16:52.820 --> 01:16:57.820] But we'll have to talk about that after we come right back from our sponsors. [01:16:57.820 --> 01:17:23.820] We'll be right back. [01:17:27.820 --> 01:17:52.820] We'll be right back. [01:17:52.820 --> 01:17:57.820] We'll be right back. [01:18:22.820 --> 01:18:26.820] We'll be right back. [01:18:26.820 --> 01:18:53.820] We'll be right back. [01:18:53.820 --> 01:18:56.820] We'll be right back. [01:18:56.820 --> 01:19:23.820] We'll be right back. [01:19:26.820 --> 01:19:35.820] Well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:19:35.820 --> 01:19:40.820] I was blindsided but now I can see your plans. [01:19:40.820 --> 01:19:45.820] You put the beer in my pocket, took the money from my hand. [01:19:45.820 --> 01:19:54.820] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:19:54.820 --> 01:20:04.820] I ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:20:04.820 --> 01:20:05.820] Okay. [01:20:05.820 --> 01:20:06.820] We are back. [01:20:06.820 --> 01:20:09.820] We're into Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio. [01:20:09.820 --> 01:20:14.820] And we're talking to Elise in Arizona. [01:20:14.820 --> 01:20:22.820] And I guess the first place we should always start is it with what would make you whole [01:20:22.820 --> 01:20:24.820] at the end of the day. [01:20:24.820 --> 01:20:30.820] What do you want from this litigation? [01:20:30.820 --> 01:20:36.820] Because if you don't know where you're going, there's a good chance you'll wind up somewhere else. [01:20:36.820 --> 01:20:45.820] What would be the least amount that you would be satisfied with? [01:20:45.820 --> 01:20:50.820] It would be $261. [01:20:50.820 --> 01:20:54.820] That's a lot. [01:20:54.820 --> 01:21:00.820] Well, this suit is for $949. [01:21:00.820 --> 01:21:08.820] I did not sue for anything extra, any emotional, any time, any of that. [01:21:08.820 --> 01:21:13.820] And yeah, this is what's happening for $1,000. [01:21:13.820 --> 01:21:22.820] And this chump dentist didn't pay you off, hired a lawyer instead for $900. [01:21:22.820 --> 01:21:23.820] She's very upset. [01:21:23.820 --> 01:21:24.820] Yeah, she's very upset. [01:21:24.820 --> 01:21:25.820] She is. [01:21:25.820 --> 01:21:26.820] Did? [01:21:26.820 --> 01:21:30.820] Yeah. [01:21:30.820 --> 01:21:34.820] You poor creepy attorney. [01:21:34.820 --> 01:21:38.820] No wonder he moved to withdraw. [01:21:38.820 --> 01:21:39.820] I bet she's not happy. [01:21:39.820 --> 01:21:45.820] He probably slapped the dentist. [01:21:45.820 --> 01:21:49.820] It's probably the first bar grievance he's ever had. [01:21:49.820 --> 01:21:57.820] You know, that bar grievance will stay on his record forever. [01:21:57.820 --> 01:22:03.820] This does not sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer. [01:22:03.820 --> 01:22:09.820] So in your offer to mediate, is that all you asked for? [01:22:09.820 --> 01:22:16.820] Yes, I asked for $949, and I did offer a payment plan. [01:22:16.820 --> 01:22:19.820] $149? [01:22:19.820 --> 01:22:21.820] No, no, not $949. [01:22:21.820 --> 01:22:23.820] $949. [01:22:23.820 --> 01:22:25.820] Oh, $949. [01:22:25.820 --> 01:22:27.820] Just shy of $1,000, yeah. [01:22:27.820 --> 01:22:37.820] My goodness, this lawyer would, this dentist would waste her time going to court over this? [01:22:37.820 --> 01:22:38.820] What's going on here? [01:22:38.820 --> 01:22:43.820] What's motivating her? [01:22:43.820 --> 01:22:50.820] She's so upset that I'm taking her to court for her lies. [01:22:50.820 --> 01:22:56.820] This isn't a normal, I hate to use the word normal, and I cannot help but get philosophical because that's just who I am. [01:22:56.820 --> 01:23:03.820] But we're not dealing with a regular human being like all three of us here and all of your listeners, right? [01:23:03.820 --> 01:23:10.820] This is a woman who's just being read and is upset, and she can't see herself, right? [01:23:10.820 --> 01:23:14.820] She doesn't get it. [01:23:14.820 --> 01:23:16.820] So she has a lot of money. [01:23:16.820 --> 01:23:21.820] She has a lot of money. [01:23:21.820 --> 01:23:23.820] Well, this seems like a problem. [01:23:23.820 --> 01:23:30.820] And this thing about insurance may be the next thing you want to go for. [01:23:30.820 --> 01:23:37.820] You might file for discovery to discover the holder of her errors and admissions policies. [01:23:37.820 --> 01:23:48.820] First, go to the agency that licenses dentists and find out what kind of insurance requirements they have. [01:23:48.820 --> 01:24:00.820] And then go to the court and ask for discovery of her insurance policy as required by whatever standards. [01:24:00.820 --> 01:24:05.820] And that would likely light her up big time. [01:24:05.820 --> 01:24:09.820] Because if she doesn't have the insurance policy, she's got a real problem. [01:24:09.820 --> 01:24:18.820] If she does have the insurance policy, it will do the same thing to her as it did to the lawyer when you bargaged them. [01:24:18.820 --> 01:24:23.820] It will cause her rates to go up dramatically. [01:24:23.820 --> 01:24:36.820] But if she has a policy and hasn't notified her insurance carrier, the insurance carrier is likely to cancel. [01:24:36.820 --> 01:24:49.820] And if she's required to have insurance in order to practice, then it will get real serious for her real fast. [01:24:49.820 --> 01:24:53.820] So you can start asking questions. [01:24:53.820 --> 01:24:59.820] If you ask the question of the licensing board, they're likely to go back to this dentist and say, [01:24:59.820 --> 01:25:09.820] this person asking me these questions about you, is there something you haven't noticed us about? [01:25:09.820 --> 01:25:11.820] Nothing to see here, nothing to see here. [01:25:11.820 --> 01:25:13.820] I'm taking care of it right away. [01:25:13.820 --> 01:25:16.820] Yeah, don't let me have this curtain. [01:25:16.820 --> 01:25:20.820] Does that make sense, Louise? [01:25:20.820 --> 01:25:29.820] Yes, it makes sense and it resonates deeply. So yes, yes, I like that. [01:25:29.820 --> 01:25:32.820] So that's what I'd suggest in that step. [01:25:32.820 --> 01:25:36.820] I like to do subtle stuff. [01:25:36.820 --> 01:25:44.820] You go in and ask these questions, and then the dentist starts getting questions that she doesn't want to answer. [01:25:44.820 --> 01:25:51.820] And it takes her a little while to realize you did this to her. [01:25:51.820 --> 01:25:58.820] There's nothing I like better than asking a judge to do something that he's required to do when he doesn't do it. [01:25:58.820 --> 01:25:59.820] Ask the bailiff. [01:25:59.820 --> 01:26:01.820] I forget about the judge for the moment. [01:26:01.820 --> 01:26:05.820] I go to the bailiff, go ahead and arrest that judge. [01:26:05.820 --> 01:26:09.820] Then I have an argument with the bailiff about whether or not he's going to arrest the judge. [01:26:09.820 --> 01:26:14.820] And the judge is standing over there, he's got to keep his mouth shut. [01:26:14.820 --> 01:26:20.820] You're kind of putting this dentist in that same situation. [01:26:20.820 --> 01:26:28.820] You might actually wind up making her a better person. [01:26:28.820 --> 01:26:36.820] Sometimes the best medicine is somewhat bitter. [01:26:36.820 --> 01:26:43.820] Okay, so do you have a plan? [01:26:43.820 --> 01:26:47.820] I do have a plan, and I'm ready to execute it, definitely. [01:26:47.820 --> 01:26:50.820] Good girl. [01:26:50.820 --> 01:26:54.820] Thank you to both of you. [01:26:54.820 --> 01:26:56.820] Gosh, I feel like you already know this. [01:26:56.820 --> 01:26:58.820] But with every cell of my being, right? [01:26:58.820 --> 01:27:00.820] Because sometimes words are not enough. [01:27:00.820 --> 01:27:07.820] But first of all, I love you both, and I thank you so, so much for doing this for all of us. [01:27:07.820 --> 01:27:14.820] You're making such an enormous difference, and both of you have empowered me so greatly [01:27:14.820 --> 01:27:21.820] because I come from a space of not using my voice and abiding by the rules and the hierarchy. [01:27:21.820 --> 01:27:26.820] Anyway, so thank you so much for empowering me on so many levels. [01:27:26.820 --> 01:27:28.820] Wow, our pleasure. [01:27:28.820 --> 01:27:30.820] This is why we do the show. [01:27:30.820 --> 01:27:35.820] This is why we do the Telegram channel. [01:27:35.820 --> 01:27:41.820] If we could empower a few people, then that pays us back for what we're doing. [01:27:41.820 --> 01:27:44.820] Thank you very much, Elise. [01:27:44.820 --> 01:27:49.820] Now we have another caller who's rather churlish sometimes, [01:27:49.820 --> 01:27:51.820] but today I don't think she's going to be churlish. [01:27:51.820 --> 01:27:53.820] I think she's going to be sweet. [01:27:53.820 --> 01:27:55.820] So we're going to go to Sweet Tina. [01:27:55.820 --> 01:27:58.820] Hello, Sweet Tina. [01:27:58.820 --> 01:28:02.820] Well, after that, I'll have to be sweet, won't I? [01:28:02.820 --> 01:28:05.820] Yes, you will. [01:28:05.820 --> 01:28:08.820] What do you have for us today? [01:28:08.820 --> 01:28:17.820] Well, first I want to congratulate that other caller for taking all this on and finding her voice, [01:28:17.820 --> 01:28:26.820] and also to tell you what you were saying earlier about how terrified you are the first time in court. [01:28:26.820 --> 01:28:28.820] It takes a few goes. [01:28:28.820 --> 01:28:38.820] It does, but I also think it takes listening to the show and maybe go through and looking at court, [01:28:38.820 --> 01:28:45.820] sitting in there, seeing what they do to get the confidence you need and to understand how it works. [01:28:45.820 --> 01:28:53.820] So, you know, and then I wanted to ask you about being, you know, polite to the court. [01:28:53.820 --> 01:28:55.820] That should go both ways. [01:28:55.820 --> 01:29:04.820] When the judge is rude to, per se, what is our remedy right there in the court? [01:29:04.820 --> 01:29:06.820] What do you say? [01:29:06.820 --> 01:29:13.820] You can object to the judge's rudeness depending on how rude they are, depending on what they say. [01:29:13.820 --> 01:29:21.820] I am not at all averse to asking the bailiff to arrest the judge. [01:29:21.820 --> 01:29:25.820] That is not something they see coming. [01:29:25.820 --> 01:29:29.820] They think the bailiff is their personal slave. [01:29:29.820 --> 01:29:32.820] They think the bailiff works for the court. [01:29:32.820 --> 01:29:38.820] I was just in court today and the bailiffs, they were dancing around doing all this stuff for the judge, [01:29:38.820 --> 01:29:45.820] and I am looking at them and saying, you know, they are not servants of the court. [01:29:45.820 --> 01:29:48.820] That is what prosecutors and clerks are for. [01:29:48.820 --> 01:29:51.820] The bailiffs are simply there to keep the peace. [01:29:51.820 --> 01:29:53.820] But they forgot that. [01:29:53.820 --> 01:30:02.820] When you engage the bailiff to his... [01:30:02.820 --> 01:30:06.820] Reality TV, sugar, obesity, jet lag. [01:30:06.820 --> 01:30:09.820] The list of things that makes us dumber just keeps on growing. [01:30:09.820 --> 01:30:12.820] But now researchers say we can add stress to the list. [01:30:12.820 --> 01:30:14.820] I am Dr. Catherine Albrecht. [01:30:14.820 --> 01:30:16.820] Back with details in a moment. [01:30:16.820 --> 01:30:18.820] Privacy is under attack. 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[01:33:42.820 --> 01:34:11.820] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountainville Law Radio, and we're talking to Miss Tina in California. [01:34:11.820 --> 01:34:21.820] Tina, how many times did you have to go into court before you essentially found your sea legs? [01:34:21.820 --> 01:34:27.820] I'm not saying when you got comfortable and confident, but how many times did you have to go before a judge [01:34:27.820 --> 01:34:33.820] before you stopped getting these butterflies in your stomach and stopped being terrified? [01:34:33.820 --> 01:34:44.820] And my legs and hands stopped shaking. I'd say it was about four and four to five. [01:34:44.820 --> 01:34:53.820] So in that amount, you know, we have so many people who think of going into court and they're just absolutely terrified. [01:34:53.820 --> 01:35:02.820] That's all it takes. And Tina became a force to be reckoned with. [01:35:02.820 --> 01:35:12.820] Okay, we kind of bushwhacked you when you came in. What did you have for us today? [01:35:12.820 --> 01:35:22.820] Well, I wanted to ask about the judge. And when you go in and they all expect you to, you know, say yes, Your Honor, no, Your Honor. [01:35:22.820 --> 01:35:30.820] Okay, okay. Hold on, Tina. You sound a lot of bass. Are you on a Bluetooth or something? [01:35:30.820 --> 01:35:33.820] No, I took it off. [01:35:33.820 --> 01:35:35.820] Oh, okay. [01:35:35.820 --> 01:35:39.820] And maybe it's my crummy mixer. Okay, go ahead. [01:35:39.820 --> 01:35:46.820] There you go. So do we, you know, I've stopped calling them Your Honor because I'm not finding them an honor. [01:35:46.820 --> 01:35:58.820] I just call them judge. You know, that's not rude. That's still polite if you just call them by their judge and their last name, correct? [01:35:58.820 --> 01:36:21.820] Yes, unless they demand it. And then you can always tell them you haven't found much honor in here and ask them if judge will do because you feel, so what's the term, the term for your saying things you don't really mean. [01:36:21.820 --> 01:36:30.820] It's unconscionable for me to have to say things that are not sincerely believed. [01:36:30.820 --> 01:36:37.820] That will probably get you a couple of days. [01:36:37.820 --> 01:36:43.820] Well, I've already been threatened with sanctions by the appeal court judges. [01:36:43.820 --> 01:36:59.820] And I'm going to be appealing this next one if she does not reconsider her decision. So I'm sure they're going to figure out something to sanction me with. Would that be criminal or civil? [01:36:59.820 --> 01:37:01.820] How do I respond? [01:37:01.820 --> 01:37:06.820] It would have to be civil. [01:37:06.820 --> 01:37:14.820] That's another thing. They call themselves civil while they rape and pillage. [01:37:14.820 --> 01:37:19.820] But you haven't found in their court, you haven't found civility in their court. [01:37:19.820 --> 01:37:21.820] No, I haven't. [01:37:21.820 --> 01:37:47.820] Okay, well, really, I was thinking back to Elise and her concern, her timidity about going before the court. And I'm hoping that everybody listening realizes the first time you tried to walk a tightrope, you were probably terrified. [01:37:47.820 --> 01:37:51.820] But the third time, piece of cake, right, Tina? [01:37:51.820 --> 01:37:53.820] Yep. [01:37:53.820 --> 01:38:00.820] Okay, maybe not the third time, but it'll only take a couple of days. You'll get it. [01:38:00.820 --> 01:38:08.820] You do get to the point where you walk in and you're just like, I don't care what the attorney is saying. [01:38:08.820 --> 01:38:21.820] Like I said, you know, if the shoe, when he was saying, huffing and puffing and saying, she's calling me a liar, I'm very affronted. I'm an attorney of many years standing. And I said, well, if the shoe fits, wear it. [01:38:21.820 --> 01:38:33.820] You know, and I didn't care, because he was a liar. And I just called him one right in court and he just, you know, got very fluffed his feathers about that. But there you go. [01:38:33.820 --> 01:38:42.820] I would never have done it two times. As long as you give the semblance of being respectful. [01:38:42.820 --> 01:38:43.820] Yes. [01:38:43.820 --> 01:38:50.820] As long as you dress appropriately and you speak with dignity and decorum. [01:38:50.820 --> 01:39:09.820] And they can't suspect that you're being sarcastic. Otherwise that'll kind of backfire on you. If you go overboard and start talking about your highness and your majesty and your worthship and things like that, then they wouldn't take kindly to it. [01:39:09.820 --> 01:39:15.820] But if you conduct yourself with civility. [01:39:15.820 --> 01:39:25.820] You can pretty well do whatever you want to in court. And those people who are terrified of going before the court because you have no idea what to do. [01:39:25.820 --> 01:39:35.820] The court is not there to beat you up and take away all your rights. That's not why they're there. [01:39:35.820 --> 01:39:51.820] Well, the appeal court did with me. They wanted to beat me up. And as Brett was listening that one time when they were just being, you know, rude and allowing the, you know, speaking over me, allowing the other side's attorney to bring in new case. [01:39:51.820 --> 01:40:00.820] And the one judge was just, you know, twiddling with his papers and pen and looking around the room and not taking notice. You remember that? [01:40:00.820 --> 01:40:06.820] Did you call them out for their rude and impertinent behavior? [01:40:06.820 --> 01:40:16.820] I don't believe I called them out for that right there and then, no. But I was firm in what I was requesting and saying, right Brett? [01:40:16.820 --> 01:40:18.820] Yes, you were. [01:40:18.820 --> 01:40:23.820] Okay. Tina, remember the case with Ms. Patty? [01:40:23.820 --> 01:40:24.820] Yes. [01:40:24.820 --> 01:40:29.820] Where the prosecutor, where the opposing counsel was making these faces? [01:40:29.820 --> 01:40:30.820] Yes. [01:40:30.820 --> 01:40:32.820] The judge called him out on it? [01:40:32.820 --> 01:40:35.820] That's correct. [01:40:35.820 --> 01:40:41.820] You should have called the appeals court judge out on his rude and uncivil behavior. [01:40:41.820 --> 01:40:57.820] Well, I could see him because I couldn't get on the Zoom. The way they set it up, I could not get on and see. I could only hear them. Brett could see them, but I couldn't. [01:40:57.820 --> 01:41:03.820] Zoom is a problem. That's something we need to work on. [01:41:03.820 --> 01:41:16.820] I don't think they have the right to force you to Zoom. You have a right to face your accusers. You have a right to a public court. And Zoom does not provide a public court. [01:41:16.820 --> 01:41:26.820] Well, this was in the height of COVID, so it was, you know, a little bit more difficult to do that. [01:41:26.820 --> 01:41:29.820] Yeah, they had their excuses flying. [01:41:29.820 --> 01:41:30.820] Oh, yes. [01:41:30.820 --> 01:41:41.820] I also want to say that you've turned me into this force of a person who is not afraid to go on radio. [01:41:41.820 --> 01:41:58.820] I was on our local talk radio here. I was invited on, and I spent an hour, you know, with people calling in talking about a very hot topic of transgender guys in women's sports. [01:41:58.820 --> 01:42:12.820] And yeah, got some flak, but apparently it went down well, and we got a lot of good comments about the way, you know, I spoke and was focused, and I've got my points across. [01:42:12.820 --> 01:42:19.820] And I did not get flustered when somebody called in and said I was a transphobe and a hate monger and everything. [01:42:19.820 --> 01:42:29.820] I said, you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine, and I'm expressing mine right now, and I'm speaking for all the girls who are too afraid to speak for themselves. [01:42:29.820 --> 01:42:40.820] And I was very calm. So thank you for giving me all this confidence to actually go on radio, and it was a breeze. [01:42:40.820 --> 01:42:44.820] Yes, Tina, you handled yourself well here. [01:42:44.820 --> 01:42:53.820] And the one thing you always do is conduct yourself with civility. [01:42:53.820 --> 01:43:05.820] And anybody out there who's looking to go into court, if you are civil to the court, then you have mastered 90%. [01:43:05.820 --> 01:43:09.820] The rest of it is just a little familiarity. [01:43:09.820 --> 01:43:18.820] The first time someone picks up a ping pong ball in a paddle, they're going to miss, they're going to knock it up against the wall, they're going to send it all over the room. [01:43:18.820 --> 01:43:22.820] But after four or five shots, you get it down. [01:43:22.820 --> 01:43:25.820] Court's the same way. [01:43:25.820 --> 01:43:29.820] The judge is not your master. [01:43:29.820 --> 01:43:33.820] You are his. [01:43:33.820 --> 01:43:42.820] And once he finds out you understand that, the judge will get himself or herself together. [01:43:42.820 --> 01:43:48.820] It just takes two or three times. You'll get your feet about you, and you won't be that difficult. [01:43:48.820 --> 01:43:54.820] Hang on. I was just kind of stalling using up the time to the break. [01:43:54.820 --> 01:43:59.820] We'll be right back. [01:43:59.820 --> 01:44:08.820] Dang, Cookie. Cookie? Me love cookies. Oh, hi, Cookie Muncher. No, these are yucky cookies. Cookie? Yucky? 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[01:46:46.820 --> 01:46:54.820] And over the break, Brett and I were talking about accents, and I picked my wife, picked up my wife from the hospital. [01:46:54.820 --> 01:47:01.820] She had a nose job of a sort. She had a spurt, a brown spurt, and a nose to operate on. What a big deal. [01:47:01.820 --> 01:47:12.820] But the woman who brought her out in a wheelchair had this absolutely delightful accent. And I asked her where she was from, and it was Spanish, from Finland. [01:47:12.820 --> 01:47:30.820] And I told her that her accent rang well on the American ear. There are some accents that don't sound well to Americans, but hers did, and Tina's does. [01:47:30.820 --> 01:47:38.820] Tina, you have a delightful accent. You have an accent that gives people's attention. You would do well on radio. [01:47:38.820 --> 01:47:41.820] Tina, he's trying to not be churlish. Can you tell? [01:47:41.820 --> 01:47:50.820] I know. It's a miracle. He's doing very well, too. I'm most impressed. [01:47:50.820 --> 01:47:58.820] So this radio station you were on, what's the nature of that station? [01:47:58.820 --> 01:48:11.820] It's a local talk radio that's on five days a week from four till seven, and they just do all the local stuff, bring people in to talk about hot topics, local topics. [01:48:11.820 --> 01:48:26.820] And somebody had gone in the week before and talked about it, and this was after I spent an hour the week before on the radio just chatting with a show host [01:48:26.820 --> 01:48:35.820] who happened to be a former professor of mine from 35 years ago. He was my critical thinking professor, [01:48:35.820 --> 01:48:42.820] and he remembered me when someone told him that he should put me on the radio about my Chair 30 work. [01:48:42.820 --> 01:48:49.820] And so we got in touch and had lunch, and then he asked me if I would come talk. [01:48:49.820 --> 01:48:58.820] He said, this is just a local chat. This is just friendly. And then it was very easy to be on there. [01:48:58.820 --> 01:49:03.820] And then this lady went on and talked about transgender, and I said, well, I wish I'd known. [01:49:03.820 --> 01:49:08.820] I would have called in. He said, well, come on the show and talk and give your opinion. [01:49:08.820 --> 01:49:14.820] He said, I assume you've got one. I said, oh, yes, I have. [01:49:14.820 --> 01:49:20.820] Yeah, one thing Tina has is opinions. [01:49:20.820 --> 01:49:29.820] Well, you know, as a former world-class athlete, a female competing against people who have been on drugs and things, [01:49:29.820 --> 01:49:38.820] and now girls have to worry about, you know, being competing against men who have said they're now women. [01:49:38.820 --> 01:49:42.820] And that's their prerogative if they want to do it. I have no problem with that. [01:49:42.820 --> 01:49:46.820] I just have a problem with the fairness about them coming in with all those, you know, [01:49:46.820 --> 01:49:55.820] extra muscles, height, strength, testosterone, and taking medals and positions away from, you know, [01:49:55.820 --> 01:50:03.820] young girls and women who have, you know, it's taken us a long time to get to the place we are in having women in sport. [01:50:03.820 --> 01:50:09.820] And this is, you know, depressing them and, you know, especially teenage girls, [01:50:09.820 --> 01:50:15.820] and they feel they can't speak out. They're afraid because they're going to be cancelled. [01:50:15.820 --> 01:50:24.820] They're going to be ostracized. They're going to be bullied for saying what they feel about having their sport taken over [01:50:24.820 --> 01:50:28.820] and their records broken by biological males. [01:50:28.820 --> 01:50:33.820] This is the worst kind of tyranny. [01:50:33.820 --> 01:50:41.820] We get, us guys get all kind of crap because of our physiology. [01:50:41.820 --> 01:50:46.820] My muscles are three times as dense as yours. [01:50:46.820 --> 01:50:51.820] It doesn't make any difference what you do. [01:50:51.820 --> 01:50:54.820] You can't beat me. [01:50:54.820 --> 01:51:00.820] You can hit me with everything you've got. [01:51:00.820 --> 01:51:04.820] But my muscles are three times as dense as yours. [01:51:04.820 --> 01:51:10.820] A chimpanzee's muscles are six times as dense as mine. [01:51:10.820 --> 01:51:13.820] It makes no difference how big and tough I think I am. [01:51:13.820 --> 01:51:19.820] A chimpanzee can rip my arm off my body. [01:51:19.820 --> 01:51:27.820] There is absolutely no chance I could compete with a chimpanzee. [01:51:27.820 --> 01:51:34.820] It's just physiologically impossible to have women competing with a man [01:51:34.820 --> 01:51:37.820] because he thinks he would like to be a woman. [01:51:37.820 --> 01:51:42.820] That is absolutely insane. [01:51:42.820 --> 01:51:49.820] Well, I agree, and so does the former Bruce Jenner who was in the Olympics. [01:51:49.820 --> 01:51:55.820] He's come out and said, it's wrong. It's unfair. It shouldn't happen. [01:51:55.820 --> 01:52:03.820] He said, I don't go into women's golf because I know I can drive 100 meters more than any woman out there. [01:52:03.820 --> 01:52:06.820] And he said, it's unfair for me to do it. [01:52:06.820 --> 01:52:10.820] And I said to somebody, well, why are you putting yourself in the cross-stairs? [01:52:10.820 --> 01:52:12.820] And they said, because I don't care. [01:52:12.820 --> 01:52:14.820] He said, I'm 55 years old. [01:52:14.820 --> 01:52:17.820] They can't fire me from a job because I'm retired. [01:52:17.820 --> 01:52:21.820] They can't kick me off a sports team because I'm not on one. [01:52:21.820 --> 01:52:24.820] What else can they do? [01:52:24.820 --> 01:52:28.820] I've had one of those already and it can't get any worse than that. [01:52:28.820 --> 01:52:37.820] I wanted to say good for him, but I'm glad he's standing up for what's right. [01:52:37.820 --> 01:52:44.820] I think this is all going to create a horrendous backlash. [01:52:44.820 --> 01:52:53.820] This is so insane that even Democrats have to look at this and say, this is insane. [01:52:53.820 --> 01:53:00.820] I'm hoping at the midterm elections, everything changes. [01:53:00.820 --> 01:53:05.820] And you listen to my show, we generally don't do politics. [01:53:05.820 --> 01:53:14.820] But when Biden got in, I was concerned that the Republic was in incredibly terrible shape. [01:53:14.820 --> 01:53:17.820] And I still think it is. [01:53:17.820 --> 01:53:23.820] And the Democrats appear to be doing everything they can to crash the Republic. [01:53:23.820 --> 01:53:28.820] Before they got in, Brett, I think even you and I spoke to that. [01:53:28.820 --> 01:53:36.820] If the Democrats get in and do what they're doing, inflation will go through the roof. [01:53:36.820 --> 01:53:42.820] Well, you know, I have a brother who is a staunch Democrat. [01:53:42.820 --> 01:53:47.820] And I'm expecting him to complain about the high gas prices he's in California. [01:53:47.820 --> 01:53:51.820] And I'm going to tell him, this is what you wanted. [01:53:51.820 --> 01:53:54.820] This is what you asked for. [01:53:54.820 --> 01:53:56.820] You want socialism? [01:53:56.820 --> 01:53:58.820] Your guy across the street needs a car. [01:53:58.820 --> 01:54:00.820] Give him your keys. [01:54:00.820 --> 01:54:02.820] And he's going to say, oh, that's my car. [01:54:02.820 --> 01:54:04.820] I worked and paid for that. [01:54:04.820 --> 01:54:06.820] Yeah, but this is socialism. [01:54:06.820 --> 01:54:07.820] He needs it more than you do. [01:54:07.820 --> 01:54:09.820] Give it to him. [01:54:09.820 --> 01:54:12.820] And your brother's going to tell you, no, I didn't vote for that. [01:54:12.820 --> 01:54:14.820] It was all those dead people. [01:54:14.820 --> 01:54:17.820] Yeah. [01:54:17.820 --> 01:54:22.820] So I'm looking, you know, I'm hearing a lot of doom and gloom, [01:54:22.820 --> 01:54:28.820] but things have a way of correcting themselves. [01:54:28.820 --> 01:54:37.820] At the midterm elections, I'm looking for an absolute dramatic sea change in politics. [01:54:37.820 --> 01:54:43.820] Even Democrats are looking at this and saying, this is insane. [01:54:43.820 --> 01:54:45.820] We are paid to be game. [01:54:45.820 --> 01:54:52.820] You and I and this show and all the people on this show, we are part of this change. [01:54:52.820 --> 01:54:54.820] And we will make it happen. [01:54:54.820 --> 01:54:59.820] And I credit you guys and everyone else here for giving me this confidence [01:54:59.820 --> 01:55:03.820] and realizing that whatever they thought me, I don't care. [01:55:03.820 --> 01:55:07.820] I'll take it because the young girls can't. [01:55:07.820 --> 01:55:15.820] And I think hopefully you'll get someone else on this next segment to help along the way. [01:55:15.820 --> 01:55:18.820] You know, I hate politics. [01:55:18.820 --> 01:55:24.820] And I hate to do politics on the show, but we are at a political juncture. [01:55:24.820 --> 01:55:29.820] And, you know, Brett and Deborah are very religious. [01:55:29.820 --> 01:55:33.820] And they know that I'm not particularly religious. [01:55:33.820 --> 01:55:38.820] But I'm going to say to everybody, get out the Bible. [01:55:38.820 --> 01:55:43.820] And if you don't read it for its religious content, [01:55:43.820 --> 01:55:52.820] read it for its 6,000 years of history, of civility. [01:55:52.820 --> 01:55:58.820] Follow what's in it, not necessarily because God told you to, [01:55:58.820 --> 01:56:06.820] but because over 6,000 years, people learned what works. [01:56:06.820 --> 01:56:14.820] People learned what leads to good positive outcomes, and it's all written in that Bible. [01:56:14.820 --> 01:56:21.820] And this garbage they're doing now, it's not in there. [01:56:21.820 --> 01:56:27.820] And it's not in there because it is a really bad idea. [01:56:27.820 --> 01:56:31.820] I just talked to someone in Austin. [01:56:31.820 --> 01:56:37.820] Kara Bell, she's the one who stood in front of the City Council on live TV [01:56:37.820 --> 01:56:42.820] and read a book out of the library, middle school library, [01:56:42.820 --> 01:56:51.820] about two boys talking, a 10-year-old boys talking about how they're going to cornhole a 10-year-old girl. [01:56:51.820 --> 01:56:55.820] This is in our schools. [01:56:55.820 --> 01:57:01.820] She started this whole thing about getting those kind of books out of our schools. [01:57:01.820 --> 01:57:06.820] This kind of stuff is just insane. [01:57:06.820 --> 01:57:12.820] And if they look at the Bible, not from a religious context, [01:57:12.820 --> 01:57:16.820] but from a cultural, historical context, [01:57:16.820 --> 01:57:19.820] it'll tell you how to make a society that works. [01:57:19.820 --> 01:57:24.820] And the one we're making now simply will not work. [01:57:24.820 --> 01:57:26.820] That's all the preaching I'm going to do for today. [01:57:26.820 --> 01:57:28.820] That's the Gospel According to Randi. [01:57:28.820 --> 01:57:31.820] What do you think, Randi? [01:57:31.820 --> 01:57:33.820] Well, thank you for the time tonight. [01:57:33.820 --> 01:57:34.820] I appreciate it. [01:57:34.820 --> 01:57:37.820] And I can't be on tomorrow because we've got guests. [01:57:37.820 --> 01:57:43.820] So unfortunately, I can't listen to your talk that tones until somebody sends me the recording. [01:57:43.820 --> 01:57:46.820] Okay. [01:57:46.820 --> 01:57:50.820] And I apologize for doing politics. [01:57:50.820 --> 01:57:54.820] So I normally try to keep politics out of it. [01:57:54.820 --> 01:58:02.820] But for a while there, I was terrified that the republic was going down the toilet. [01:58:02.820 --> 01:58:05.820] I'm not anymore. [01:58:05.820 --> 01:58:09.820] Things have gotten so insane that everybody's awake. [01:58:09.820 --> 01:58:18.820] And I have confidence that those who are trying to orchestrate this catastrophe [01:58:18.820 --> 01:58:21.820] will not be affected too soon. [01:58:21.820 --> 01:58:29.820] And with the population aging, there's more knowledge and understanding and wisdom [01:58:29.820 --> 01:58:33.820] that in the next few months the system's going to right itself. [01:58:33.820 --> 01:58:34.820] That's my story. 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