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[01:20.000 --> 01:34.000]  Good evening. This is Friday, the 7th of January, 2022, Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain and we don't have Randy with us yet.
[01:34.000 --> 01:46.000]  I was having trouble getting a hold of him. Looks like, I don't know, sometimes he takes a nap right before a Friday evening show, but I think there might be another issue going on right now.
[01:46.000 --> 01:55.000]  His wife was in the hospital yesterday, so it could just be that he's going to have to get in touch with us a little bit later.
[01:55.000 --> 02:01.000]  I haven't heard anything bad, so I'm just going to hope for the best.
[02:01.000 --> 02:10.000]  But good evening. We're going to just go ahead and start without him and hope that he is able to join in shortly.
[02:10.000 --> 02:23.000]  So let me go ahead and get the phone lines open for us here and we'll see if anyone has some questions to get us started.
[02:23.000 --> 02:30.000]  If not, of course, we can just start in on something.
[02:30.000 --> 02:35.000]  All right, phone lines.
[02:35.000 --> 02:44.000]  All right. The call-in number is 512-646-1984.
[02:44.000 --> 02:51.000]  512-646-1984. We'll just go ahead and start taking calls.
[02:51.000 --> 03:07.000]  Now, let's see. One thing that people have been asking recently seems like a common question or series of questions that has been coming up for me lately is I've just been pulled over.
[03:07.000 --> 03:16.000]  I've just got a ticket for no insurance or I just got pulled over for no registration and now what am I going to do?
[03:16.000 --> 03:21.000]  And it's a pretty common thing, right?
[03:21.000 --> 03:36.000]  But people don't necessarily know that the first few steps that need to happen are time sensitive and my suggestion is that you will first go to the court clerk.
[03:36.000 --> 03:37.000]  Don't wait until the date.
[03:37.000 --> 03:48.000]  It's going to have a date on your ticket that will say show up within the next whatever, 10 days or 15 days or it will give you an actual date and say show up at 9 o'clock on the 15th.
[03:48.000 --> 03:52.000]  Don't wait. Instead, go down right now.
[03:52.000 --> 03:54.000]  You've just been pulled over.
[03:54.000 --> 03:57.000]  You've already had your life inconvenienced.
[03:57.000 --> 04:04.000]  Go to the court clerk and ask for a copy of the record.
[04:04.000 --> 04:07.000]  If you can't do it same day, you're on your way to work.
[04:07.000 --> 04:08.000]  I get it.
[04:08.000 --> 04:10.000]  But go quickly.
[04:10.000 --> 04:11.000]  Go the next day.
[04:11.000 --> 04:13.000]  Don't wait and delay.
[04:13.000 --> 04:24.000]  The idea is you're going to get there before they have any paperwork and they're going to think that you wasted your time.
[04:24.000 --> 04:31.000]  However, you are establishing that as of this date, this time, this is all there was in the record.
[04:31.000 --> 04:34.000]  There was no warrant. There was no whatever.
[04:34.000 --> 04:36.000]  Any kind of charging instrument.
[04:36.000 --> 04:42.000]  There was no documentation that supports them bothering you.
[04:42.000 --> 04:49.000]  That means the only thing they have to go on is whatever accusations they eventually end up coming up with.
[04:49.000 --> 04:53.000]  So, you know, usually it's going to be some kind of transportation related crime, right?
[04:53.000 --> 04:55.000]  They call it a crime.
[04:55.000 --> 05:01.000]  That's going to be their probable cause they're going to try to articulate.
[05:01.000 --> 05:03.000]  However, they didn't have that at the time.
[05:03.000 --> 05:08.000]  Anyway, so you go and get yourself a certified copy of the record.
[05:08.000 --> 05:16.000]  Another thing that's usually pretty helpful to have, even if you're recording it yourself, it's good to get their recordings.
[05:16.000 --> 05:19.000]  So that's not something you get from the court clerk.
[05:19.000 --> 05:23.000]  That's something that you go to the arresting officer's agency.
[05:23.000 --> 05:31.000]  So if it was a sheriff deputy that pulls you over, then you're going to the sheriff and you're asking for the video
[05:31.000 --> 05:35.000]  and audio footage that they captured of that incident.
[05:35.000 --> 05:41.000]  So you just say what day it was and where was the location and who was the subject of the recording?
[05:41.000 --> 05:42.000]  You.
[05:42.000 --> 05:46.000]  And they'll go ahead and ask for anything they have.
[05:46.000 --> 05:51.000]  Body cams, dash cams, dispatch, radio, vlog, whatever you can get.
[05:51.000 --> 05:57.000]  Any of the paperwork that the officers generated, there might be more than one officer that showed up
[05:57.000 --> 06:02.000]  and you can get both of their body cams and catch some things that they said to each other.
[06:02.000 --> 06:06.000]  So it's helpful often to be able to have that.
[06:06.000 --> 06:09.000]  Our color board is filling right up.
[06:09.000 --> 06:14.000]  So we'll go ahead and switch into color board mode.
[06:14.000 --> 06:18.000]  And first one on the top is Scott from Texas.
[06:18.000 --> 06:21.000]  Good evening, Scott.
[06:21.000 --> 06:24.000]  Well, hello, stranger.
[06:24.000 --> 06:27.000]  You're having the man, the ship all by yourself.
[06:27.000 --> 06:29.000]  How does it feel?
[06:29.000 --> 06:32.000]  Well, I just hope Corrine's doing well.
[06:32.000 --> 06:38.000]  That's all right now, because yesterday he said she was in the hospital.
[06:38.000 --> 06:44.000]  So I'm not really sure he didn't say why he wasn't doing a show tonight.
[06:44.000 --> 06:46.000]  I think he was planning to.
[06:46.000 --> 06:51.000]  So hopefully everything's fine with him and her.
[06:51.000 --> 06:53.000]  Yeah, no, she's been in the hospital.
[06:53.000 --> 06:56.000]  I think this is her third day now.
[06:56.000 --> 07:01.000]  And so, yeah, so I talked to him this morning.
[07:01.000 --> 07:04.000]  He said, yeah, they're keeping her overnight one more day.
[07:04.000 --> 07:10.000]  So he definitely has been kind of going back and forth and dealing with all that.
[07:10.000 --> 07:19.000]  So I'll be talking to him in the morning and seeing what's going on because we got plans and we got to do some stuff.
[07:19.000 --> 07:21.000]  Okay, cool.
[07:21.000 --> 07:25.000]  Yeah, so it's definitely, you know, kind of understandable.
[07:25.000 --> 07:32.000]  He probably is asleep.
[07:32.000 --> 07:36.000]  And that can happen on a regular day when his life is not in the hospital.
[07:36.000 --> 07:41.000]  Yep, understandable.
[07:41.000 --> 07:45.000]  So I was kind of listening to what you were saying.
[07:45.000 --> 07:53.000]  You know, another thing that because, I mean, even though you do all that stuff,
[07:53.000 --> 07:56.000]  they're still going to run through their normal routine.
[07:56.000 --> 07:58.000]  And you know that they're going to do that, right?
[07:58.000 --> 08:02.000]  Oh, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[08:02.000 --> 08:10.000]  The idea being you just want to go ahead and be prepared with all of the information that you can as early as you can
[08:10.000 --> 08:15.000]  and get anything into your arsenal.
[08:15.000 --> 08:24.000]  Well, and for us here in Texas and anybody in their state, you know, you could, what we do here is,
[08:24.000 --> 08:30.000]  and what I've done personally is go ahead and do some information requests.
[08:30.000 --> 08:37.000]  And this gets really interesting quick because if you do an information request to the city
[08:37.000 --> 08:41.000]  and, you know, they'll give you a bunch of gobbledygook because here in Texas,
[08:41.000 --> 08:48.000]  you do an information request for the officer's authority to enforce the Texas Transportation Code
[08:48.000 --> 08:56.000]  per Chapter 4 of the Texas Administrative Code, 643.101 and 701.001.
[08:56.000 --> 09:02.000]  Okay, so if you put that to the city or to the sheriff's department or whatever,
[09:02.000 --> 09:09.000]  they may write you back and give you a whole bunch of nonsense, basically nothing.
[09:09.000 --> 09:13.000]  It's kind of like what you say, sometimes these attorneys will respond back
[09:13.000 --> 09:17.000]  to which you get to bar-grieve them into the Stone Age and do all that.
[09:17.000 --> 09:25.000]  But here's what I'm going at is I've wrote it to the actual Texas Department of Public Transportation.
[09:25.000 --> 09:28.000]  Now, they don't know what's going on.
[09:28.000 --> 09:38.000]  And so you can actually write them, and I've done it to ask for all officers in the entire state of Texas.
[09:38.000 --> 09:42.000]  But you can be, and once you have that officer's name, whoever pulled you over,
[09:42.000 --> 09:46.000]  Joe Schmuckatelli, you know, you could be specific about it and say,
[09:46.000 --> 09:52.000]  hey, do you have, you write the same request, citing the same code.
[09:52.000 --> 09:59.000]  When I did that for Texas and asked for all the officers in Texas,
[09:59.000 --> 10:05.000]  well, the attorney for the Texas Department of Transportation wrote me back
[10:05.000 --> 10:14.000]  and gave me a list of all 350 cops, sheriff's deputies and municipal cops,
[10:14.000 --> 10:22.000]  350 in the entire state of Texas authorized to enforce the transportation code.
[10:22.000 --> 10:29.000]  Now then, so if you're going to go ahead and go run the routine on them
[10:29.000 --> 10:35.000]  like you normally are going to do and bar-grieve everybody, do all that other good stuff,
[10:35.000 --> 10:43.000]  then you're going to get on a break and you're going to fall off the cliff if you don't take over now.
[10:43.000 --> 10:47.000]  Yep, that's good. Records requests are a great way to get started,
[10:47.000 --> 10:52.000]  and it doesn't have to just be the body cams and everything.
[10:52.000 --> 10:58.000]  Reaching out and asking for their authority to enforce is a beautiful addition as well.
[10:58.000 --> 11:02.000]  We will be right back.
[11:02.000 --> 11:05.000]  It's clear cell phones have changed the way we live and work,
[11:05.000 --> 11:07.000]  but have they negatively affected our health?
[11:07.000 --> 11:11.000]  Hi, Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be back in just a moment with new findings
[11:11.000 --> 11:15.000]  on how cell phones may actually alter our brain chemistry.
[11:15.000 --> 11:17.000]  Privacy is under attack.
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[11:25.000 --> 11:30.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[14:27.000 --> 14:29.000]  Rule of Law Radio for Andy Kelton.
[14:29.000 --> 14:33.000]  I'm Brett Fountain, and we are speaking with Scott in Texas
[14:33.000 --> 14:40.000]  about records requests in the context of the first things that you want to do
[14:40.000 --> 14:44.000]  after you get bothered on the side of the road
[14:44.000 --> 14:48.000]  and dragged into their spiral, right?
[14:48.000 --> 14:52.000]  So you were talking about, right before we went out, Scott,
[14:52.000 --> 14:55.000]  you were talking about making records requests
[14:55.000 --> 15:01.000]  regarding the officer's authority to enforce Texas Transportation Code.
[15:01.000 --> 15:04.000]  So go ahead, tell us more about that.
[15:04.000 --> 15:09.000]  Yeah, this, like I say, this gets really interesting
[15:09.000 --> 15:15.000]  because you're starting to find out that they don't have the authority.
[15:15.000 --> 15:20.000]  I mean, there's 350 cops just in the city of Dallas alone,
[15:20.000 --> 15:24.000]  and when you say that there's only 350 in the entire state of Texas,
[15:24.000 --> 15:27.000]  well, you know something's amiss, okay?
[15:27.000 --> 15:31.000]  That's right. That math just doesn't work out.
[15:31.000 --> 15:39.000]  No. In fact, I think there was maybe two in Plano, one in Richardson,
[15:39.000 --> 15:48.000]  one in Garland, zero in Rockwall County, zero in all these other cities.
[15:48.000 --> 15:55.000]  Yeah, so one of the odds that regular average Joe gets pulled over
[15:55.000 --> 16:00.000]  by one of the people who actually is authorized to enforce Texas Transportation Code
[16:00.000 --> 16:03.000]  against somebody who is actually in commerce
[16:03.000 --> 16:07.000]  and who actually has been to the training, got the certification,
[16:07.000 --> 16:16.000]  and knows the difference between commercial driving privileges and traveling rights.
[16:16.000 --> 16:21.000]  Almost zero chance you will get pulled over by one of those guys.
[16:21.000 --> 16:27.000]  I mean, zero, and this probably goes on in all the other states as well
[16:27.000 --> 16:34.000]  because they, you know, all the codes are pretty standard across all the states,
[16:34.000 --> 16:39.000]  but we'll just stick to Texas because we know these very well.
[16:39.000 --> 16:43.000]  But what you're really wanting to do,
[16:43.000 --> 16:47.000]  and especially when you do the information request to the city,
[16:47.000 --> 16:52.000]  well, they're going to write you, I only had two cities
[16:52.000 --> 16:58.000]  that would actually write back and respond correctly to it.
[16:58.000 --> 17:01.000]  One was Rockwall and another one was Lake Dallas.
[17:01.000 --> 17:10.000]  And when they wrote back, they said they could not find any records responsive to my request.
[17:10.000 --> 17:13.000]  What does that mean?
[17:13.000 --> 17:19.000]  They don't have nobody authorized to enforce it, okay?
[17:19.000 --> 17:25.000]  So, you know, you were there for that hearing in Rockwall, trial in Rockwall, you know,
[17:25.000 --> 17:26.000]  and when that cop...
[17:26.000 --> 17:29.000]  Yeah, if you could call it that.
[17:29.000 --> 17:38.000]  Yeah. Well, it was quite stunning because when that cop actually read that document on the stand,
[17:38.000 --> 17:41.000]  their eyes get as big as silver dollars
[17:41.000 --> 17:48.000]  because they didn't even realize they were in violation of the code itself
[17:48.000 --> 17:51.000]  because they're not authorized to do it.
[17:51.000 --> 17:55.000]  And so this all goes back to all their training, you know,
[17:55.000 --> 18:01.000]  which I've been harping on for years now, Brady training and all this other stuff, you know.
[18:01.000 --> 18:08.000]  But what you're doing is you're setting everything up
[18:08.000 --> 18:16.000]  so that you're the biggest pain in the butt they will ever run across again.
[18:16.000 --> 18:21.000]  And by the time you get some gobbledygook from some of these
[18:21.000 --> 18:25.000]  that don't respond correctly to the information requests,
[18:25.000 --> 18:31.000]  because like I say, once you've already done it to DPS, well, you've got the evidence right there.
[18:31.000 --> 18:32.000]  Now you're...
[18:32.000 --> 18:34.000]  Yeah, that's your statewide list.
[18:34.000 --> 18:39.000]  Everything else is going to be a subset if they even have any records at all.
[18:39.000 --> 18:47.000]  Well, and now you're setting them up for them to basically lie by omission
[18:47.000 --> 18:54.000]  because when they don't respond and affirm what the state has just gave you,
[18:54.000 --> 19:00.000]  well, that's when you just start bar grieving these guys all to the stone age.
[19:00.000 --> 19:06.000]  You know, go ahead and start filing judicial conducts on the judge
[19:06.000 --> 19:11.000]  for allowing this case to even come into his court because he's supposed to know all this.
[19:11.000 --> 19:15.000]  They're all deemed to know the law, okay?
[19:15.000 --> 19:17.000]  That's their job.
[19:17.000 --> 19:20.000]  You know, that's what they're paid to do.
[19:20.000 --> 19:21.000]  Right.
[19:21.000 --> 19:29.000]  Yeah, and so now then you're basically getting them set up into their own trap.
[19:29.000 --> 19:33.000]  They think they got you trapped, but you're trapping them really
[19:33.000 --> 19:36.000]  because you have all this information now.
[19:36.000 --> 19:42.000]  And I had this one trial out in Raines County,
[19:42.000 --> 19:45.000]  and I don't think I ever told you this one,
[19:45.000 --> 19:53.000]  but when I went out there, they knew of me quite well
[19:53.000 --> 19:59.000]  because I had recordings of some of these hearings and stuff,
[19:59.000 --> 20:02.000]  and I put them up on the YouTube channel and all this,
[20:02.000 --> 20:08.000]  and I had a judge just go completely nuts on me and had that all recorded,
[20:08.000 --> 20:11.000]  and oh, that was quite famous.
[20:11.000 --> 20:16.000]  But on the top of the folder, they had YouTube on there,
[20:16.000 --> 20:18.000]  and so these people knew of me.
[20:18.000 --> 20:23.000]  Well, I was bar grieving this district attorney
[20:23.000 --> 20:27.000]  and filing judicial conducts and all this other stuff,
[20:27.000 --> 20:32.000]  so the day that they were going to have the trial,
[20:32.000 --> 20:34.000]  they set up metal detectors and all that.
[20:34.000 --> 20:36.000]  It was never set up before.
[20:36.000 --> 20:40.000]  They specially set this up for me knowing I was going to come through there,
[20:40.000 --> 20:45.000]  and they wanted to make sure I didn't have any type of devices on me,
[20:45.000 --> 20:46.000]  and I didn't take any that day.
[20:46.000 --> 20:47.000]  I was like, I don't need it.
[20:47.000 --> 20:51.000]  I'll just handwrite it all down if I have to.
[20:51.000 --> 20:55.000]  And so I got in there to court,
[20:55.000 --> 21:02.000]  and this district attorney actually started turning out to be a really nice guy
[21:02.000 --> 21:06.000]  because he started talking to me, and he was actually helping me.
[21:06.000 --> 21:11.000]  It was almost like he didn't like the judge that much,
[21:11.000 --> 21:17.000]  and so he was giving me as much ammo as I could to defend myself,
[21:17.000 --> 21:22.000]  and I kind of actually followed some of his advice and, you know,
[21:22.000 --> 21:24.000]  interrupted the proceedings.
[21:24.000 --> 21:27.000]  I forget exactly what it was that I had to say,
[21:27.000 --> 21:31.000]  but anyway, I said it, the judge denied it, out of hand, of course.
[21:31.000 --> 21:35.000]  So here we go on through the proceeding.
[21:35.000 --> 21:38.000]  Well, then I get that cop up on the stand,
[21:38.000 --> 21:42.000]  and I make him read that document about the authorization
[21:42.000 --> 21:44.000]  to enforce transportation code.
[21:44.000 --> 21:51.000]  And so after he reads it, I said, now, can you find your name anywhere on that list?
[21:51.000 --> 21:52.000]  And he couldn't.
[21:52.000 --> 21:57.000]  So now I got him all just running all over the place.
[21:57.000 --> 21:59.000]  Well, we kind of...
[21:59.000 --> 22:04.000]  Did you ask him if he was really good at reading in school?
[22:04.000 --> 22:08.000]  Oh, he tried to play all kinds of games about reading,
[22:08.000 --> 22:14.000]  and it was almost comical, and I had to correct him.
[22:14.000 --> 22:17.000]  You know, I said, no, I need you to read this part right here.
[22:17.000 --> 22:24.000]  This is the part you need to be reading, the part that pertains to you.
[22:24.000 --> 22:31.000]  And so what was funny is that the district attorney,
[22:31.000 --> 22:34.000]  we kind of had a little pause there for a few minutes,
[22:34.000 --> 22:36.000]  and he was wanting to cut a deal.
[22:36.000 --> 22:43.000]  And he said, look, if you will just accept the guilty charge,
[22:43.000 --> 22:47.000]  we're going to go ahead and I'll set the fine just as low as humanly possible
[22:47.000 --> 22:51.000]  because the judge was wanting to try to put me in jail for like six months,
[22:51.000 --> 22:53.000]  driving on an invalid license.
[22:53.000 --> 22:56.000]  And I had him going really good,
[22:56.000 --> 23:02.000]  and I already had filed lawsuits against that cop and the chief of police too.
[23:02.000 --> 23:06.000]  And he said, look, I know you probably want to go after this judge too,
[23:06.000 --> 23:09.000]  but you have every right to go after.
[23:09.000 --> 23:11.000]  You knew I was going to sue that judge too.
[23:11.000 --> 23:16.000]  And he said, but look, you've already cost this county way more money.
[23:16.000 --> 23:25.000]  Even at $500, it cost us $800 just to bring this court reporter in.
[23:25.000 --> 23:30.000]  That doesn't include all the other stuff we've been having to deal with on you.
[23:30.000 --> 23:32.000]  You've cost us so much money.
[23:32.000 --> 23:37.000]  If you would just take this and get out of our hair,
[23:37.000 --> 23:39.000]  we will never have this problem again.
[23:39.000 --> 23:44.000]  He goes, just promise that if you do this, though, you can't appeal the case.
[23:44.000 --> 23:49.000]  And I was like, well, I tell you what, let's just kind of go on for a little bit further,
[23:49.000 --> 23:51.000]  and I'll feel it out.
[23:51.000 --> 23:57.000]  And so I was kind of going through all the motions and making that cop go through all the motions.
[23:57.000 --> 24:01.000]  And when we got close to the end, I went ahead and leaned over to that guy.
[24:01.000 --> 24:05.000]  I said, I tell you what, I don't trust this judge at all.
[24:05.000 --> 24:08.000]  Why don't we go ahead and just strike our deal right now
[24:08.000 --> 24:12.000]  after I thoroughly embarrassed that cop on the stand?
[24:12.000 --> 24:14.000]  And we did.
[24:14.000 --> 24:16.000]  He halted everything right there.
[24:16.000 --> 24:20.000]  He told the judge, he said, judge, can we approach?
[24:20.000 --> 24:24.000]  And so we walked out there and he goes, look, in the interest of justice,
[24:24.000 --> 24:27.000]  we struck a deal right here.
[24:27.000 --> 24:32.000]  And I'm going to go ahead and put this recommendation in,
[24:32.000 --> 24:35.000]  and you are going to accept this, right, judge?
[24:35.000 --> 24:40.000]  And the judge was like, yeah, I guess so.
[24:40.000 --> 24:43.000]  Because he didn't even know what he was doing.
[24:43.000 --> 24:48.000]  So that's how you really hammer the crud out of them.
[24:48.000 --> 24:51.000]  They don't want to do anything with me no more.
[24:51.000 --> 24:53.000]  Go ahead.
[24:53.000 --> 24:55.000]  That is beautiful.
[24:55.000 --> 24:58.000]  All right, 512-646-1984.
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[27:27.000 --> 27:31.000]  Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton, I'm Brett Fountain.
[27:31.000 --> 27:35.000]  We are speaking right now with Scott in Texas
[27:35.000 --> 27:38.000]  and speaking about how to respond
[27:38.000 --> 27:43.000]  when the roadside encounter comes to happen to you.
[27:43.000 --> 27:48.000]  And Scott, you were just telling a story about Raines County.
[27:48.000 --> 27:50.000]  Go ahead.
[27:50.000 --> 27:54.000]  You know, and I know a lot of people are like,
[27:54.000 --> 27:57.000]  oh, well, you didn't beat that ticket.
[27:57.000 --> 28:00.000]  You didn't get it dismissed and all this other stuff.
[28:00.000 --> 28:03.000]  Well, there's been a couple of cities where I've got them dismissed,
[28:03.000 --> 28:05.000]  one in Dallas.
[28:05.000 --> 28:08.000]  I had one dismissed over in Lake Dallas.
[28:08.000 --> 28:13.000]  But, you know, the situations are always a little bit different on each one.
[28:13.000 --> 28:19.000]  So you kind of have to know how far to push it on everything.
[28:19.000 --> 28:21.000]  The one thing that did happen, though,
[28:21.000 --> 28:27.000]  is that cop was terminated from the city that he was working at
[28:27.000 --> 28:29.000]  when he issued me the citation.
[28:29.000 --> 28:32.000]  And they had to move him over to the county
[28:32.000 --> 28:34.000]  so he could work for the Sheriff's Department.
[28:34.000 --> 28:40.000]  So he got fired, but then he got hired by the Sheriff's Department.
[28:40.000 --> 28:43.000]  So that was one thing that happened to him.
[28:43.000 --> 28:48.000]  And the lawsuits and the T-closed complaints and all that stuff,
[28:48.000 --> 28:53.000]  the bar grievances and everything, that really hammered him really,
[28:53.000 --> 28:55.000]  really hard as well.
[28:55.000 --> 29:00.000]  And for the ones that did get dismissed, you know, that's a great victory.
[29:00.000 --> 29:02.000]  It's a good feeling and all that stuff.
[29:02.000 --> 29:06.000]  You had the same kind of feeling in a couple of years, too, you know.
[29:06.000 --> 29:08.000]  Yeah.
[29:08.000 --> 29:10.000]  And it's like Randy tells us sometimes.
[29:10.000 --> 29:16.000]  He says that it's good to know what your goal is, what's your purpose,
[29:16.000 --> 29:19.000]  what's your intended result.
[29:19.000 --> 29:25.000]  When you're going into it, you need to know what are you aiming for?
[29:25.000 --> 29:29.000]  Because it's easy to, if you don't have that,
[29:29.000 --> 29:32.000]  you kind of just have these really high, lofty goals.
[29:32.000 --> 29:33.000]  I'm going to change the world.
[29:33.000 --> 29:38.000]  This is never going to happen again to me or anybody else in the whole of America.
[29:38.000 --> 29:42.000]  I'm going to fix the system and make lots of money.
[29:42.000 --> 29:45.000]  Yeah, right.
[29:45.000 --> 29:51.000]  Well, you know, the first thing you should always be concerned about is your liberty,
[29:51.000 --> 29:53.000]  you know, and that's the main thing.
[29:53.000 --> 29:56.000]  You can't do nothing if you're sitting in jail, you know.
[29:56.000 --> 29:59.000]  You got to go through all that stuff.
[29:59.000 --> 30:05.000]  So, but it's a whole lot harder to try to do it that way.
[30:05.000 --> 30:11.000]  And you're not going to be quite as successful as you are if you're sitting outside
[30:11.000 --> 30:17.000]  and being able just to fire off paperwork just one right after the other.
[30:17.000 --> 30:28.000]  The one thing that it will do is what it will change is their attitude towards you.
[30:28.000 --> 30:33.000]  And I know when I first started, you know, after I got my windows smashed out
[30:33.000 --> 30:39.000]  and I had to go before this Addison judge, this guy, this judge was actually screaming at me,
[30:39.000 --> 30:43.000]  you know, had zero respect.
[30:43.000 --> 30:45.000]  It didn't matter what I said.
[30:45.000 --> 30:49.000]  I mean, we literally got into a shouting contest at once,
[30:49.000 --> 30:53.000]  and he was looking over at his bailiff like the bailiff's going to jump in there
[30:53.000 --> 30:55.000]  and kind of mug me or something, you know.
[30:55.000 --> 31:02.000]  But by the time I got to the last time I got a ticket and went in the trial,
[31:02.000 --> 31:08.000]  I was treated with the utmost respect because I've already been through several rounds now.
[31:08.000 --> 31:15.000]  I've gotten pretty hardened and gotten pretty good and following all these information requests
[31:15.000 --> 31:21.000]  and knowing how to really conduct myself in a better fashion,
[31:21.000 --> 31:27.000]  knowing how they were going to operate, not knowing is the biggest kicker
[31:27.000 --> 31:31.000]  when you go into all this stuff because you don't know what to expect.
[31:31.000 --> 31:35.000]  And you certainly don't know how to react to it
[31:35.000 --> 31:40.000]  because you got these high lofty goals like you're saying, you know.
[31:40.000 --> 31:45.000]  But once you understand, once you know their playbook,
[31:45.000 --> 31:50.000]  now you're able to outrun them and beat them at their own game
[31:50.000 --> 31:53.000]  and take their own law book and just beat them over the head with it.
[31:53.000 --> 31:57.000]  You could practically just beat them down with a damn thing.
[31:57.000 --> 32:08.000]  So it's knowing where you stand and how to put it in your favor
[32:08.000 --> 32:12.000]  because you know what the game is being played.
[32:12.000 --> 32:16.000]  And, you know, not like I'm saying these courts aren't corrupt
[32:16.000 --> 32:21.000]  because we all know almost every one of these courts are just corrupt all day long.
[32:21.000 --> 32:26.000]  And you can take it all the way up to the election and all that, the Supreme Court,
[32:26.000 --> 32:32.000]  and you can just see how they just dismiss things out of hand
[32:32.000 --> 32:37.000]  no matter how much empirical evidence you put before them.
[32:37.000 --> 32:43.000]  And that was kind of one of the things about setting them up
[32:43.000 --> 32:47.000]  is like I got that ticket here in Garland one time.
[32:47.000 --> 32:51.000]  He wrote me that ticket. This was in the morning.
[32:51.000 --> 32:53.000]  I was going to go get a haircut or something.
[32:53.000 --> 32:56.000]  It was about 9 o'clock in the morning.
[32:56.000 --> 32:58.000]  He writes me that ticket. Instead of going to get my haircut,
[32:58.000 --> 33:02.000]  I came right back to the house and wrote up a T-close complaint.
[33:02.000 --> 33:07.000]  And by the time I got it all wrote up, I went straight over to the police department
[33:07.000 --> 33:10.000]  and dropped it in their nightmare drop.
[33:10.000 --> 33:15.000]  And as I'm pulling out of the parking lot, here comes that same cop on a motorcycle.
[33:15.000 --> 33:19.000]  He's coming into the police station.
[33:19.000 --> 33:23.000]  How little does he know the next morning, I guess, when he gets to work,
[33:23.000 --> 33:28.000]  he's got a T-close complaint against him and the chief of police.
[33:28.000 --> 33:32.000]  I became the most wanted. And so they knew...
[33:32.000 --> 33:36.000]  Did he see you coming out? Did he notice that was you?
[33:36.000 --> 33:40.000]  Yes, he did. He knew exactly who it was.
[33:40.000 --> 33:46.000]  He's looking. He's staring at me, and I'm staring at him.
[33:46.000 --> 33:50.000]  He just doesn't know which pin you pulled on which grenade,
[33:50.000 --> 33:52.000]  but he knows something's up.
[33:52.000 --> 33:57.000]  He knew something was up because I'm coming out of the police station,
[33:57.000 --> 34:01.000]  and he's pulling in. And he's like, I think I just gave that guy a ticket.
[34:01.000 --> 34:07.000]  Oh, yes, you did. And I think I just gave you a T-close complaint.
[34:07.000 --> 34:13.000]  And, oh, man, after that, whenever anybody gets a ticket around here,
[34:13.000 --> 34:16.000]  they put a little sticker on the back of the ticket saying,
[34:16.000 --> 34:23.000]  if you have a problem with the officer to contact Internal Affairs,
[34:23.000 --> 34:25.000]  they put it there.
[34:25.000 --> 34:29.000]  Please don't call T-Cole.
[34:29.000 --> 34:32.000]  For our listeners, he's saying T-close because they've changed it.
[34:32.000 --> 34:34.000]  In Texas, they changed the acronym.
[34:34.000 --> 34:39.000]  It used to be T-C-L-E-O-S-E, and I guess they got tired of that many letters
[34:39.000 --> 34:43.000]  because they changed it to T-C-O-L-E, T-Cole.
[34:43.000 --> 34:47.000]  So T-close complaint, T-Cole is Commissioner on Law Enforcement now,
[34:47.000 --> 34:54.000]  but it's the agency that will, when you're wanting to become a peace officer,
[34:54.000 --> 34:56.000]  you go to them and you get trained and certified.
[34:56.000 --> 35:00.000]  Most states call it post, so you might be familiar with that,
[35:00.000 --> 35:04.000]  but that's what he's talking about, T-close complaints.
[35:04.000 --> 35:06.000]  I didn't know they changed the acronym.
[35:06.000 --> 35:09.000]  I wonder if they did that just to throw me off.
[35:09.000 --> 35:13.000]  It's still the same agency.
[35:13.000 --> 35:17.000]  They just changed up their name.
[35:17.000 --> 35:24.000]  Scott is the one who, you hear Randy talking about bar grieving somebody
[35:24.000 --> 35:26.000]  into the Stone Age.
[35:26.000 --> 35:29.000]  That was Scott coined that term.
[35:29.000 --> 35:35.000]  When he got into bar grievances, he just got in hard and fast and didn't slow down.
[35:35.000 --> 35:39.000]  Oh, I bar grieved these guys.
[35:39.000 --> 35:42.000]  I went over to his house one day, and he said,
[35:42.000 --> 35:44.000]  well, let me see how many you got.
[35:44.000 --> 35:48.000]  I handed him a stack of envelopes about three inches thick,
[35:48.000 --> 35:51.000]  and they were just stuffed, plump, full of bar.
[35:51.000 --> 35:54.000]  I must have had 80 of them in there,
[35:54.000 --> 35:58.000]  and I was just bar grieving anybody that said my name.
[35:58.000 --> 36:02.000]  I said, I'm going to bar grieve these guys smooth into the Stone Age.
[36:02.000 --> 36:06.000]  He just laughed.
[36:06.000 --> 36:10.000]  So I did, and I went nuts on it.
[36:10.000 --> 36:18.000]  Man, I tell you what, you start getting their attention when you start going after them
[36:18.000 --> 36:21.000]  because they're not used to it.
[36:21.000 --> 36:23.000]  It makes a difference, doesn't it?
[36:23.000 --> 36:26.000]  We get a lot of people that call in, and they're scared to take that step.
[36:26.000 --> 36:29.000]  They think maybe everybody's going to come after them or treat them worse,
[36:29.000 --> 36:33.000]  or maybe they're going to have visitors in the middle of the night,
[36:33.000 --> 36:36.000]  and it's going to get bad.
[36:36.000 --> 36:39.000]  What do you have to say to those people?
[36:39.000 --> 36:44.000]  Actually, by not doing it, they will never respect you.
[36:44.000 --> 36:49.000]  They will come at you even harder because they're just like a bully.
[36:49.000 --> 36:51.000]  They're just going to keep bullying you around,
[36:51.000 --> 36:55.000]  but you stand back and you just wind up and just punch them in the nose real good
[36:55.000 --> 36:58.000]  and start slinging at them.
[36:58.000 --> 37:01.000]  They will back down.
[37:01.000 --> 37:05.000]  And here's the thing, they'll never tell you how bad you stung them,
[37:05.000 --> 37:09.000]  but all you got to do is just watch their actions.
[37:09.000 --> 37:15.000]  Just like them don't want nobody to contact Teakhole now.
[37:15.000 --> 37:21.000]  They want you to contact Eternal Affairs and make that little complaint to them.
[37:21.000 --> 37:25.000]  It's like, no, no, no, I'm going to go above everybody's head,
[37:25.000 --> 37:29.000]  and I'm just going to keep hammering these guys.
[37:29.000 --> 37:38.000]  One of the last times I went to court, and here was the thing.
[37:38.000 --> 37:46.000]  After I teakholed that one cop, and he's coming back to the cop station,
[37:46.000 --> 37:50.000]  I'm pulling out, but the next day I went and filed a lawsuit against him
[37:50.000 --> 37:52.000]  and the chief of police.
[37:52.000 --> 37:58.000]  And so now I got this humongous ball of wax rolling on these guys.
[37:58.000 --> 38:00.000]  So I'm going to court.
[38:00.000 --> 38:06.000]  Well, now they couldn't dismiss the case
[38:06.000 --> 38:12.000]  because then that would only make my lawsuits even stronger on them, right?
[38:12.000 --> 38:16.000]  And so now we're talking about, oh, he could actually win.
[38:16.000 --> 38:19.000]  So they had to go ahead and hold the trial.
[38:19.000 --> 38:25.000]  But holy smoke were they the walking on eggshells.
[38:25.000 --> 38:29.000]  I mean, even the city attorney, he was being real nice.
[38:29.000 --> 38:32.000]  When I told him, I said, can I get your business card?
[38:32.000 --> 38:37.000]  Oh, he was almost nervous about handing me his business card
[38:37.000 --> 38:39.000]  because he knew he was handing me his business card.
[38:39.000 --> 38:42.000]  I was going, mm-hmm, yeah.
[38:42.000 --> 38:46.000]  And so, oh, man, he was real reluctant about doing it.
[38:46.000 --> 38:51.000]  And he said, oh, yes, and kind of handed it over and, you know,
[38:51.000 --> 38:55.000]  kind of nervous and sat it down on the table and everything.
[38:55.000 --> 39:00.000]  But we went through everything and the judge was super nice.
[39:00.000 --> 39:04.000]  I mean, I got to say anything and everything
[39:04.000 --> 39:08.000]  and made that cop read all this stuff on the stand.
[39:08.000 --> 39:11.000]  And all they could do was sit there and just take it.
[39:11.000 --> 39:15.000]  They didn't really like it.
[39:15.000 --> 39:17.000]  Got a little break coming.
[39:17.000 --> 39:20.000]  I'll finish up after this, like to get to the next call-in.
[39:20.000 --> 39:21.000]  All right.
[39:21.000 --> 39:23.000]  Well, our caller board is full.
[39:23.000 --> 39:25.000]  We've got, I'll go ahead and give out the number,
[39:25.000 --> 39:28.000]  but you'll have to wait until someone drops off
[39:28.000 --> 39:30.000]  before you'll be able to get in.
[39:30.000 --> 39:35.000]  The call-in number is 512-646-1984.
[39:35.000 --> 39:37.000]  We're having a great time talking with Scott
[39:37.000 --> 39:42.000]  about the things to do after you get a ticket
[39:42.000 --> 39:46.000]  and how to enjoy winding their clock.
[39:46.000 --> 40:13.000]  We're going to go to our sponsors and we'll be right back.
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[43:21.000 --> 43:25.000]  That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom
[43:25.000 --> 43:27.000]  from unreasonable search and seizure.
[43:27.000 --> 43:30.000]  Fourth Amendment, four eyes staring at you, get it?
[43:30.000 --> 43:34.000]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of security.
[43:34.000 --> 43:39.000]  Case in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing.
[43:39.000 --> 43:43.000]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause,
[43:43.000 --> 43:46.000]  I say it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[43:46.000 --> 43:49.000]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights
[43:49.000 --> 43:53.000]  and use their googly eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
[43:53.000 --> 44:00.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[44:23.000 --> 44:25.000]  Thank you very much.
[44:54.000 --> 44:57.000]  All right. We are back.
[44:57.000 --> 44:59.000]  Rule of Law Radio.
[44:59.000 --> 45:01.000]  Randy Kelson. I'm Brett Fountain.
[45:01.000 --> 45:07.000]  And this is Friday, the 7th of January, 2022.
[45:07.000 --> 45:10.000]  We're off to a start in the new year.
[45:10.000 --> 45:12.000]  We don't have Randy with us yet.
[45:12.000 --> 45:15.000]  I believe he's tending to his wife this evening.
[45:15.000 --> 45:20.000]  But we're talking with Scott in Texas right now
[45:20.000 --> 45:25.000]  about how to whine their clock, really,
[45:25.000 --> 45:32.000]  when they come to impose themselves on they being the ethereal cloud language
[45:32.000 --> 45:35.000]  that we speak, they,
[45:35.000 --> 45:42.000]  when some law enforcement officer wants to come and impose on you
[45:42.000 --> 45:50.000]  all these requests that you show up in the courtroom and do this, that, and the other,
[45:50.000 --> 45:53.000]  or pay lots of money or go to jail,
[45:53.000 --> 45:59.000]  and the kind of steps that we can take. Right, Scott?
[45:59.000 --> 46:02.000]  Of course. And, you know,
[46:02.000 --> 46:07.000]  what I was getting at in the first example was, you know,
[46:07.000 --> 46:12.000]  becoming so expensive for them to even mess with
[46:12.000 --> 46:17.000]  that it costs them way more to deal with you
[46:17.000 --> 46:19.000]  than what they're ever going to make.
[46:19.000 --> 46:23.000]  They lost so much money and so much time and got so embarrassed
[46:23.000 --> 46:30.000]  and got an officer removed from his, you know, one city that he was working with
[46:30.000 --> 46:34.000]  and had to go work for the sheriff's department.
[46:34.000 --> 46:37.000]  I guess they must have terminated him or something. I don't know what they did.
[46:37.000 --> 46:40.000]  But anyhow, he was no longer working there.
[46:40.000 --> 46:44.000]  And he had to be transferred over to another place.
[46:44.000 --> 46:47.000]  So, you know, all the cops are talking about that.
[46:47.000 --> 46:50.000]  And when he definitely had to read that stuff,
[46:50.000 --> 46:53.000]  you know, he had to get a little bit of an eye open,
[46:53.000 --> 46:57.000]  or just like several other cops that had to read that same document.
[46:57.000 --> 47:01.000]  They were real bug-eyed looking.
[47:01.000 --> 47:05.000]  I'm sure they put their own names to check to see,
[47:05.000 --> 47:08.000]  is my name on that list? Where did that list come from?
[47:08.000 --> 47:11.000]  What is this list? Is that legit? What is this?
[47:11.000 --> 47:14.000]  I'm sure it's caused a stir.
[47:14.000 --> 47:17.000]  Oh, well, it's really like I said,
[47:17.000 --> 47:22.000]  when that one cop over in Rockwall had to read the document
[47:22.000 --> 47:25.000]  coming from his own sergeant,
[47:25.000 --> 47:29.000]  that there's no records responsive to that request.
[47:29.000 --> 47:34.000]  It's coming from their own office on their own letterhead.
[47:34.000 --> 47:39.000]  So, yeah, that's pretty damning if you ask me.
[47:39.000 --> 47:43.000]  So, they don't even know this stuff.
[47:43.000 --> 47:46.000]  And, you know, that's where it goes all back to Brady and Trent.
[47:46.000 --> 47:49.000]  But, you know, that's a whole different topic there.
[47:49.000 --> 47:52.000]  But, you know, like I said,
[47:52.000 --> 47:57.000]  dealing with that one last case over here in Garland,
[47:57.000 --> 48:02.000]  you know, since I went ahead and filed a lawsuit and everything,
[48:02.000 --> 48:04.000]  well, they are going to have to go ahead and take me to trial
[48:04.000 --> 48:05.000]  and all this other stuff.
[48:05.000 --> 48:08.000]  And I knew they were, and I already knew they were going to find me guilty,
[48:08.000 --> 48:10.000]  blah, blah, blah.
[48:10.000 --> 48:14.000]  And so, I got to do everything in there.
[48:14.000 --> 48:16.000]  They treated me with the utmost respect.
[48:16.000 --> 48:21.000]  I was not getting hollered at and disrespected by any judges anymore.
[48:21.000 --> 48:23.000]  They were walking on eggshells
[48:23.000 --> 48:27.000]  because they didn't want me to write judicial conducts on them.
[48:27.000 --> 48:32.000]  And they knew I would because here's how I know.
[48:32.000 --> 48:37.000]  Now, once it was all over, they are, of course, they're going to find me guilty.
[48:37.000 --> 48:41.000]  They have to because if not, I would set precedent.
[48:41.000 --> 48:48.000]  And if I set precedent, ooh, all these cases in Texas, they're all in,
[48:48.000 --> 48:50.000]  they all got troubles now.
[48:50.000 --> 48:52.000]  Oh, yeah.
[48:52.000 --> 48:54.000]  That would be a bad day for them.
[48:54.000 --> 49:01.000]  Well, yeah, and this judge didn't want to be the one that it happened on his watch, right?
[49:01.000 --> 49:03.000]  Okay, I get all that.
[49:03.000 --> 49:07.000]  So, I'm getting up there and, you know, judge calls me up there.
[49:07.000 --> 49:13.000]  I got to sign some piece of paper or whatever, you know, and agree to some blah, blah, blah.
[49:13.000 --> 49:15.000]  And so, that's when I start telling the judge.
[49:15.000 --> 49:19.000]  I said, look, I said, you know, I'm coming here to court,
[49:19.000 --> 49:23.000]  and I'm bringing all my paperwork to you.
[49:23.000 --> 49:27.000]  And I'm asking you, where did I go wrong?
[49:27.000 --> 49:33.000]  Because no matter how much empirical evidence I put before this court,
[49:33.000 --> 49:40.000]  you're always going to find me guilty, and I can never get any remedy in this court.
[49:40.000 --> 49:45.000]  And what this is doing is tearing at the very fabric of our society
[49:45.000 --> 49:49.000]  because none of these courts will ever let us win,
[49:49.000 --> 49:54.000]  no matter how much evidence that we can show that we're correct.
[49:54.000 --> 49:58.000]  And it was something that I said, you know,
[49:58.000 --> 50:03.000]  this is going to come down to either the ballot box or the cartridge box,
[50:03.000 --> 50:06.000]  and I prefer it not to be the latter.
[50:06.000 --> 50:10.000]  And the judge, he kind of sits there, and he's opposite me and all,
[50:10.000 --> 50:13.000]  and then he rocks back in his chair.
[50:13.000 --> 50:18.000]  And he says, you know, he said, hey, you know, because I said something.
[50:18.000 --> 50:22.000]  I said, look, I could appeal this case and take it to an appeals court,
[50:22.000 --> 50:25.000]  and they're going to find the same thing, give me the same ruling as you.
[50:25.000 --> 50:27.000]  I said, but I could take it to the legislature.
[50:27.000 --> 50:29.000]  And I said, but the legislature has already wrote this.
[50:29.000 --> 50:31.000]  This is already in law.
[50:31.000 --> 50:36.000]  You're just, nobody's following what the legislature has put in place.
[50:36.000 --> 50:40.000]  And then he went on that little tirade about the cartridge box and all that stuff,
[50:40.000 --> 50:44.000]  and the judge rocks back in his chair, and he says, you know,
[50:44.000 --> 50:50.000]  every year Austin calls all those judges down so that they can tell us
[50:50.000 --> 50:55.000]  how we're supposed to interpret the law and so that we could be correct.
[50:55.000 --> 50:58.000]  I said, are you talking like politically correct?
[50:58.000 --> 50:59.000]  He said, yeah.
[50:59.000 --> 51:01.000]  I said, okay.
[51:01.000 --> 51:07.000]  I said, now that we know that the system is broken, how do we fix it?
[51:07.000 --> 51:12.000]  And he said, it's going to take more people like you.
[51:12.000 --> 51:16.000]  And I looked down for a second, thinking in the back of my head,
[51:16.000 --> 51:18.000]  oh, shoot, we're screwed.
[51:18.000 --> 51:20.000]  How many more people are like me?
[51:20.000 --> 51:24.000]  And then I looked back up and I said, okay, I know what to do.
[51:24.000 --> 51:27.000]  And I didn't say no more.
[51:27.000 --> 51:31.000]  And he reached out his hand and wanted to shake my hand.
[51:31.000 --> 51:36.000]  And not too long after that, the judge stepped down off the bench and retired.
[51:36.000 --> 51:41.000]  The cop that was the chief of police that I filed a lawsuit on,
[51:41.000 --> 51:45.000]  soon as the judge over there dismissed my case out of hand,
[51:45.000 --> 51:48.000]  soon as it was dismissed, he retired.
[51:48.000 --> 51:51.000]  He moved out from being the chief of police.
[51:51.000 --> 51:57.000]  They didn't even have a chief of police in Garland for damn near a year.
[51:57.000 --> 52:00.000]  So yeah, it made a difference.
[52:00.000 --> 52:03.000]  And they had total respect for me.
[52:03.000 --> 52:07.000]  Whenever I seen some cops roll up behind me and they run my license plate,
[52:07.000 --> 52:10.000]  they turn around and go the other way.
[52:10.000 --> 52:12.000]  They don't want nothing to do with it.
[52:12.000 --> 52:16.000]  They know I will take them to task on everything.
[52:16.000 --> 52:18.000]  And there's just so...
[52:18.000 --> 52:24.000]  So I've become such a pain in the butt, costing way more than I'll ever make.
[52:24.000 --> 52:27.000]  Even if they still charge me a little bit of money,
[52:27.000 --> 52:30.000]  they've lost twice, three times the amount.
[52:30.000 --> 52:37.000]  And I've embarrassed them, and they were so worried about their jobs,
[52:37.000 --> 52:43.000]  they retired or stepped down or got transferred.
[52:43.000 --> 52:44.000]  That's a good thing.
[52:44.000 --> 52:49.000]  Once you've poured all of your time and energy into doing it,
[52:49.000 --> 52:53.000]  then after that, you don't have to do it.
[52:53.000 --> 52:57.000]  You can if you want to, but you could also just live your life in peace,
[52:57.000 --> 53:00.000]  and they tend to back off and not bother you anymore.
[53:00.000 --> 53:04.000]  And that's a relief.
[53:04.000 --> 53:10.000]  You're going to kind of give everybody, you know,
[53:10.000 --> 53:16.000]  getting every case dismissed probably won't happen.
[53:16.000 --> 53:19.000]  That would be your best ultimate goal.
[53:19.000 --> 53:26.000]  But also knowing how to get them and just beat them at their own game
[53:26.000 --> 53:29.000]  is going to get so much respect for you.
[53:29.000 --> 53:35.000]  They will leave you alone after that, and that is your ultimate goal.
[53:35.000 --> 53:41.000]  So now that I don't have to worry about it, I don't have any problems with them.
[53:41.000 --> 53:45.000]  The only reason I need them is if I call them.
[53:45.000 --> 53:48.000]  Other than that, they can go their way.
[53:48.000 --> 53:52.000]  I go mine, and we all are fine, and I'm happy with it.
[53:52.000 --> 53:56.000]  So anyhow, I know you got some other callers on here.
[53:56.000 --> 53:57.000]  Very good.
[53:57.000 --> 53:59.000]  Yeah, I know you got some other callers on here.
[53:59.000 --> 54:01.000]  I'm sure they're wanting to get on.
[54:01.000 --> 54:05.000]  So I was just kind of helping you get through until limping you through
[54:05.000 --> 54:09.000]  until you got everything going.
[54:09.000 --> 54:13.000]  So have a good show, and I will talk to you later.
[54:13.000 --> 54:14.000]  All right.
[54:14.000 --> 54:15.000]  Thanks, Scott.
[54:15.000 --> 54:16.000]  Good night.
[54:16.000 --> 54:17.000]  Okay.
[54:17.000 --> 54:18.000]  Bye.
[54:18.000 --> 54:21.000]  All right, and so now we'll have a spot open up on the board.
[54:21.000 --> 54:27.000]  It's 512-646-1984, and we're going to go ahead to our next caller,
[54:27.000 --> 54:30.000]  which is Ted from California.
[54:30.000 --> 54:32.000]  Good evening, Ted.
[54:32.000 --> 54:37.000]  I wanted to talk with you last night, and we didn't get a chance to.
[54:37.000 --> 54:40.000]  What's on your mind?
[54:40.000 --> 54:43.000]  Well, first, Ted, I want to wish you a Happy New Year.
[54:43.000 --> 54:44.000]  Thank you.
[54:44.000 --> 54:50.000]  And I did enjoy the listening last night, and I want to talk to Olivier.
[54:50.000 --> 54:58.000]  I did talk to Randy earlier today on a phone call.
[54:58.000 --> 55:04.000]  He took another call while we were on our call, so he forgot.
[55:04.000 --> 55:08.000]  He's supposed to text me Olivier's phone number.
[55:08.000 --> 55:13.000]  But what I wanted to first go over, I took some notes from last night,
[55:13.000 --> 55:22.000]  and on Olivier's ticket, you know, he said that this trial date is going to be put off now
[55:22.000 --> 55:26.000]  because he wants his motion heard before the trial date.
[55:26.000 --> 55:32.000]  And, of course, I'm on the phone sitting there cringing because, number one,
[55:32.000 --> 55:37.000]  unless he shouldn't assume that the trial date is off,
[55:37.000 --> 55:44.000]  unless he got a notice that the trial date's been vacated or that a new trial date has been set,
[55:44.000 --> 55:46.000]  he shouldn't just assume.
[55:46.000 --> 55:48.000]  That's a good point.
[55:48.000 --> 55:52.000]  They have been known to be a little snaky that way.
[55:52.000 --> 55:54.000]  Yeah, they're really tricky.
[55:54.000 --> 56:02.000]  So heads up, Olivier, number one, have your interlocutorial appeal printed up in your hand.
[56:02.000 --> 56:08.000]  I think if it's like California, you just have to have the notice of interlocutory appeal
[56:08.000 --> 56:15.000]  and have it in his hand because I think there's one possibility they'll hear his motion, deny it,
[56:15.000 --> 56:17.000]  and then say, okay, we're going to start the trial now.
[56:17.000 --> 56:20.000]  And he's going to sit there shocked and say, but, but, but.
[56:20.000 --> 56:22.000]  And he goes, what do you mean?
[56:22.000 --> 56:24.000]  You got notice of the trial date, didn't you?
[56:24.000 --> 56:25.000]  Yeah.
[56:25.000 --> 56:27.000]  And you complained that you wanted your motion heard first.
[56:27.000 --> 56:29.000]  We just heard your motion.
[56:29.000 --> 56:31.000]  So now we're going to have the trial.
[56:31.000 --> 56:35.000]  And that's exactly what they would do here in California.
[56:35.000 --> 56:36.000]  Yeah.
[56:36.000 --> 56:37.000]  It's actually happened to me before too.
[56:37.000 --> 56:40.000]  That's exactly what you just described.
[56:40.000 --> 56:41.000]  Yeah.
[56:41.000 --> 56:44.000]  So they rolled straight from one into the next.
[56:44.000 --> 56:45.000]  Right.
[56:45.000 --> 56:52.000]  And there were, throughout the conversation last night, while Olivier was speaking,
[56:52.000 --> 56:55.000]  a lot of assumptions were being made.
[56:55.000 --> 56:57.000]  And that was one of them.
[56:57.000 --> 57:03.000]  So have your interlocutory appeal notice printed out and part of your paperwork
[57:03.000 --> 57:07.000]  when he goes for his motion hearing.
[57:07.000 --> 57:14.000]  He could also, since he does have that motion hearing on calendar now,
[57:14.000 --> 57:20.000]  he should probably put in a motion without hearing, no hearing required,
[57:20.000 --> 57:22.000]  that the trial date be vacated.
[57:22.000 --> 57:24.000]  He should go ahead and do that.
[57:24.000 --> 57:31.000]  And in California, you have to do that 10 days prior to the trial.
[57:31.000 --> 57:32.000]  Huh.
[57:32.000 --> 57:34.000]  Okay.
[57:34.000 --> 57:40.000]  So move to vacate the trial date.
[57:40.000 --> 57:45.000]  Well, as per a contingent.
[57:45.000 --> 57:49.000]  So on the other side of this break,
[57:49.000 --> 57:56.000]  Randy Kelton, Brett Stanton, and never, never forget, never see this.
[57:56.000 --> 57:57.000]  All right.
[57:57.000 --> 57:58.000]  Thanks.
[57:58.000 --> 58:21.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:36.000]  All right.
[01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:37.000]  We are back.
[01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:38.000]  Randy Kelton.
[01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:41.000]  We're at Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:44.000]  And we're talking right now with Ted in California.
[01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:50.000]  Ted, you were describing some things that could help Olivier.
[01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.000]  Go ahead.
[01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:56.000]  Yeah, just to run down a couple more of the things in my notes here.
[01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:02.000]  So he needs clarification if the trial date has been vacated or not,
[01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:07.000]  and if not, you should put in a motion to vacate the trial date or a motion
[01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:12.000]  to continue the trial date, citing that there's a motion hearing pending.
[01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:20.000]  And also, when you got into the stuff about being indigent
[01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.000]  and not able to pay fines and all that.
[01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:30.000]  Now, be careful because, again, it was kind of left,
[01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:35.000]  and Randy was having something in his gut was telling him.
[01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:42.000]  And so he was trying to get clarification and stuff because he was getting the signal,
[01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.000]  and he wasn't quite sure what it was.
[01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:52.000]  And I will say in California, for example, let's clarify something
[01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:58.000]  because once in court, I used to go to traffic court.
[01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.000]  They don't give me tickets anymore, Brett.
[01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:07.000]  Excellent. Mission accomplished.
[01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:11.000]  They haven't for about four years, four or five years.
[01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:16.000]  But anyway, I learned a few things just listening to judges,
[01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.000]  and actually it may have been a DUI case.
[01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:22.000]  It may have been even more serious.
[01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.000]  It may have been an actual criminal court than the traffic court.
[01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.000]  But the bottom line is the Department of Motor Vehicles
[01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:35.000]  is a separate government bureaucracy in California, each to its own, okay?
[01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:42.000]  And this judge was going on about how DMV is their own bureaucracy
[01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.000]  and that they don't talk to DMV.
[01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:49.000]  I've also had judges tell me about the sheriff's department or spoken open court
[01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:50.000]  about sheriff's department at all.
[01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.000]  We don't talk directly with them.
[01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:57.000]  And this was in a case of eviction and a writ of possession and such.
[01:02:57.000 --> 01:02:59.000]  And so let's be very clear.
[01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:06.000]  These government entities like to think they're autonomous, and in some sense they are.
[01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:13.000]  And so the dynamic here is that you've got DMV and you've got the court.
[01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:21.000]  And you know, I once saw a judge ask a defendant,
[01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:27.000]  I had nothing to do with the case, just watching, for her to produce her driver's license.
[01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.000]  And of course she was silly enough to go ahead and take it out of her pocket
[01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:33.000]  and give it to the bailiff, and the bailiff gave it to the judge,
[01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:36.000]  and the judge said he was taking her license.
[01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.000]  This was in the traffic court.
[01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:39.000]  What?
[01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:42.000]  Yeah, I know, Brett. It was shocking.
[01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.000]  I have no authority to do that.
[01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:50.000]  Because again, the Department of Motor Vehicles issues you a driver's license.
[01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:56.000]  And so getting back to the thing that Olivier was talking about, the court,
[01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:01.000]  and I may be a little off on this, but the court issues a fine.
[01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  And if you don't pay the fine, subsequent to that, your license can be suspended.
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:15.000]  So, and there may be some other mechanism for instant suspension,
[01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:20.000]  but here's the most important part that Olivier better looks into.
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:25.000]  Whether you can pay a fine or not, something tells me there's an administrative process.
[01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:35.000]  And even on a DUI case in California, it's almost automatic that your license is suspended,
[01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:41.000]  but that is put on you.
[01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.000]  And again, I may have this a little bit off,
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:51.000]  but you are the one that has to ask for an administrative review at the Department of Motor Vehicles.
[01:04:51.000 --> 01:05:01.000]  And so something tells me that Olivier, number one, needed to notice the court needs to find Olivier Imogen.
[01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  He needs to file the documents and then he needs to get a court order that he's indigent.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  And then you should look into it.
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:16.000]  I bet you when that law came down, because Olivier was taught another thing that was cringe-worthy to me
[01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:20.000]  was that Olivier said that they don't know about this thing.
[01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.000]  It's new. It's a relatively new law.
[01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  Brett?
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.000]  No, I don't think that was the case.
[01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  The one he quoted was, but it references several others that there's a long string going back.
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  Well, he made a generic comment.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.000]  And let's be very clear.
[01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:45.000]  The government knows every trick in the book.
[01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:51.000]  And you've studied the law, and as you've gone along, you've found the things that have made...
[01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:58.000]  One of the whole reasons we do what we're doing is we're trying to get our rights back.
[01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:03.000]  We're trying to get back to the Constitution, to being observed as it's written.
[01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:14.000]  And what these bureaucracies have done and what the courts have done is that they've made their rules or their policies to trip us up.
[01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:21.000]  For example, in California, one of the judges in my criminal case that did the arraignment,
[01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:28.000]  I did a court warrant against that judge, and I filed it with the attorney general of California.
[01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:31.000]  And there's a division that handles those.
[01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:38.000]  And ultimately, it came back that because you have to be a lawyer to file a court warrant.
[01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:44.000]  And at the time, I was absolutely representing myself.
[01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  And that's how they got around not hearing the full warrant.
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:52.000]  So I want to go back to Olivier and say, you better...
[01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:56.000]  I bet you there is a procedure in place.
[01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:00.000]  And they're going to come back to him and say, okay, you're indigent.
[01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.000]  You didn't request an administrative hearing.
[01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.000]  So yes, we can take your license.
[01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:11.000]  But something like he better look into this stuff because they said...
[01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.000]  Yeah, definitely worth checking on.
[01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:15.000]  Okay.
[01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:25.000]  Now, in my last traffic ticket, I guess it was about five years ago now, four or five years ago,
[01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:31.000]  after I received the ticket, I started filing papers into the court.
[01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:40.000]  One of the papers I filed into the court was a document basically claiming there's no real money.
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.000]  You've probably heard of this.
[01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:48.000]  And it's basically stating, if I am fined, how do you expect me to pay?
[01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.000]  How are you going to expect payment?
[01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:56.000]  Are you going to order me to pay in federal debt notes?
[01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:57.000]  Right.
[01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:59.000]  Yeah, I've heard that.
[01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:00.000]  Okay.
[01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.000]  They don't want to answer any of this.
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  Now, this case went along before it actually went to trial.
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.000]  So the ticket was about five years ago.
[01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.000]  I'm real good at dragging these out forever.
[01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  And I had good reason this time around.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:26.000]  But it was about a year and a half to two years after the ticket was written that it finally went to trial.
[01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:30.000]  And along the way, a lot of things happened.
[01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  But the bottom line is, well, the short of it is the judge found me guilty, big surprise.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:51.000]  Then, instead of giving me a sentence right then and there, because I kicked up such a fuss, we had about 10 hearings total.
[01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:59.000]  The judge had blown it because probably six months earlier, I told him that no, time is not waived in this case.
[01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:04.000]  And so the next time I came to court two months later, the deputy didn't show up.
[01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:08.000]  And so she put it out another two months.
[01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.000]  And so we're in California on a misdemeanor or infraction.
[01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:17.000]  You have 45 days to take somebody to trial after arraignment.
[01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:25.000]  So we were a year and a half after arraignment or a year or so after arraignment.
[01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:36.000]  We're now six months after time waived status was told to the court that time was not waived.
[01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  And so we're way past 45 days.
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:53.000]  And I'd also recuse the judge on a 170.6, which she denied and didn't have the authority to do that, obviously,
[01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:57.000]  and tried to claim that I'd already recused another judge, which I did not.
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  The only paper, the only document recusing any judge in the entire file is this judge.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:07.000]  So with all of that said, we went to trial.
[01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  So with all of that going on, and she brought me back, this will be the fourth time that we've finally had a trial
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:20.000]  and we were supposed to have it three hearings earlier over a six-month period.
[01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:23.000]  And so she has no jurisdiction whatsoever.
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:30.000]  And I tell her right at the beginning, well, this passed the time.
[01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.000]  You've been recused.
[01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.000]  You can't proceed.
[01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.000]  You're proceeding without jurisdiction.
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:45.000]  And on the other side of this break, I'll finalize it.
[01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.000]  Okay, sounds good.
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:52.000]  So we do have Olivier just popped up on the board.
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[01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:39.000]  Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain.
[01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:45.000]  And we are speaking with Ted in California.
[01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.000]  All right, Ted. Okay, there you are.
[01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  And, yeah, just before you disconnect,
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:55.000]  we are going to go to our first-time caller here,
[01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:59.000]  but I also see that Olivier just popped up.
[01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:06.000]  So, Olivier, I'm going to go ahead and get you on here where you can respond to these things.
[01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.000]  Did you hear that Ted was offering to you some suggestions?
[01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  No, I didn't hear the suggestion.
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:17.000]  He had some suggestions.
[01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:22.000]  He had heard you speaking about your case there
[01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:29.000]  and how you had stood your ground and said, no, this needs to be heard before the trial.
[01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:32.000]  And he had some input for you about that.
[01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:39.000]  A couple of things came to his mind he was just sharing with us.
[01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:41.000]  Ted?
[01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  Okay. Well, Olivier, don't assume the trial date has been vacated or continued
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  unless you get something in writing to that effect.
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:16:00.000]  And what I was suggesting is that you have your interlocutory appeal notice printed out
[01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:05.000]  and in your hand when you go to this motion hearing because if it was California,
[01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:09.000]  what they would do is they would hear your motion, deny it,
[01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.000]  and then immediately proceed to trial.
[01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.000]  And you'd sit there going, but, but, but, and they'd say,
[01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:18.000]  boy, you knew that we have this trial date, you brought it up at the last hearing, right?
[01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:21.000]  And we haven't changed it.
[01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.000]  So I'd watch out for that.
[01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:34.000]  And what I'd do is just check with the court and see if the trial date is off calendar.
[01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:39.000]  If it's not, I'd put in a motion for continuance of trial date
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  citing that you have a motion pending.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:47.000]  You always want to have everything in writing with these people.
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  That's how, they're, like Deborah Stevens has said in the past,
[01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:56.000]  they'll run circles around us on procedure.
[01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.000]  This is what their profession is.
[01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:00.000]  This is what they do.
[01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.000]  We're the amateurs in the room.
[01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:07.000]  I did have a happy ending on my story though, Brett.
[01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:11.000]  You know, the judge did find me guilty on the traffic ticket,
[01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:16.000]  told me, didn't want to sentence me that day because she wanted to make me come back a week later.
[01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:22.000]  And when I went back, I did about 30 minutes of pleading or arguing that she couldn't find me
[01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:27.000]  because I'm indigent, and she subsequently gave me community service.
[01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:38.000]  And I, my community service was, I put together sanitary packages for homeless people.
[01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:44.000]  And I loved doing it, and I went to hotels to get the, you know, the toothbrush,
[01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:48.000]  the soap, feminine supplies, mouthwash, things like that.
[01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:53.000]  Got those donated to me from hotels in the area.
[01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:56.000]  I just bought the Ziploc bags, put them all together.
[01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:01.000]  I made 30 of them and took them down, and it was a $500 fine, okay?
[01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:07.000]  And it was basically all handled through this community service.
[01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:11.000]  And I actually enjoyed it and felt really good about it.
[01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:20.000]  Subsequent to that, I was pulled over in a little condo civic where the registration was suspended.
[01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.000]  The officer said he was going to write me a ticket.
[01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:24.000]  He went back to his car.
[01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:29.000]  About five minutes later, came back up, said, hey, I see you got a wine bottle in the car there.
[01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.000]  I said, yeah, I'm on my way over to my girlfriend's.
[01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.000]  He said, well, you have a good night.
[01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:38.000]  After he told me he was writing me a ticket, he did it.
[01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:44.000]  Another time I was out, and I didn't do anything wrong.
[01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:45.000]  It's really strange.
[01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:51.000]  I pulled out of a shopping center onto the street and then went in to make a left turn
[01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:54.000]  or a U-turn in the island, in the center.
[01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:55.000]  I didn't do anything wrong.
[01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:59.000]  And I told him on a motorcycle, came up.
[01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:03.000]  He was ahead of me at another outlet from that same mall.
[01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:08.000]  He actually came onto the street, went the wrong way on the street, got in behind me, lit me up.
[01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:13.000]  You know, he put the lights on and hit the siren, just hurt the siren.
[01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.000]  And then there were two cars in front of me.
[01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:19.000]  So it took some time for us to be going through that island there.
[01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:22.000]  And in that subsequent time, he's on the radio.
[01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:24.000]  It seems like a couple back and forth.
[01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:29.000]  And then all of a sudden, he turned his lights off and he just motored away, real calmly.
[01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:31.000]  He wasn't going to another call.
[01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:38.000]  And then the biggest one was about six months ago.
[01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  I'm on an expressway.
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.000]  And there's this one light that always sticks to make a left turn.
[01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:47.000]  And you can only make the left turn on a green arrow.
[01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:49.000]  So I was monitoring it.
[01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:51.000]  I'm coming up the expressway.
[01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:52.000]  I'm seeing that the light is stuck.
[01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.000]  It's not moving.
[01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.000]  And I've got ice cream in the car.
[01:19:56.000 --> 01:20:01.000]  And I get up there, two lanes make a left turn.
[01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:02.000]  I'm in the outer lane.
[01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.000]  There were two cars now sitting there in the inner lane.
[01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:10.000]  And the one was a Ford with blacked out windows.
[01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:11.000]  But I go up.
[01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.000]  I never even stopped.
[01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  I rolled through and made a left turn on a red.
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  And I got down the street.
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  And it's a light commercial area.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  They lit me up, pulled me in off the street.
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:29.000]  I pulled in off the street.
[01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000]  They got me.
[01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:35.000]  I had no proof of insurance with me.
[01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:38.000]  The registration was suspended.
[01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.000]  And I had run this light.
[01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.000]  Well, they're going to take your car, man.
[01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:46.000]  And there were two deputies.
[01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  They had a long day of felony arrest.
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:51.000]  That's what they told me they were doing.
[01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  One chatted me up while the other one went over to the car,
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:57.000]  to the passenger side, and had the radio out the window.
[01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  And he was chit-chatting.
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  He was chit-chatting for a good 10 minutes.
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:03.000]  And he come over.
[01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:07.000]  And he said, hey, Mr. Scarlett, take it easy.
[01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.000]  Have a good night.
[01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:14.000]  That's it, huh?
[01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:15.000]  Wow.
[01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:20.000]  Yeah, the moral of the story here is it's a good look.
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:22.000]  Let's not kid anybody.
[01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:27.000]  It takes guts to stand up for your rights.
[01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.000]  And I want to be clear.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:32.000]  I deserve the ticket for running that light.
[01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:35.000]  I broke the law.
[01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  Even the deputy there that was chatting me up said, hey,
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  no, there's nothing really wrong with what you did.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:44.000]  It was safe.
[01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:48.000]  But you understand, if we let these little things go,
[01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.000]  then people tend to go to bigger and bigger things that they think are OK to do.
[01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  And I said, hey, man, you're preaching to the choir.
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.000]  I said, down in Los Angeles, you make unprotected left turns all over the whole city.
[01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  But we don't have that up here.
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:04.000]  I've got you.
[01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  And I appreciate what you're saying.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  What I was getting at is, for the people that are listening,
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:17.000]  this isn't about breaking the law or being disrespectful to law enforcement.
[01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  But asserting your right, knowing where you stand, who you are,
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:31.000]  and if you're willing to go through the steps and stand up for yourself,
[01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:34.000]  you can end up with this kind of result.
[01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:41.000]  And I'll just say that, you know, it's not easy and it's a learning process.
[01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  But there's no better place to learn than traffic court.
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:49.000]  I learned a long time ago, traffic court, at least here in Silicon Valley,
[01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:51.000]  has nothing to do with public safety.
[01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.000]  There is no ticket that is less than $500.
[01:22:55.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  And I see poor people down there all the time with these tickets that they get,
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:05.000]  and they're signing up to make payments on these tickets,
[01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  and they're charging them fees to sign up to do that.
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.000]  And it's horrible.
[01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:18.000]  It's horrible because a $100 fine would have been enough punishment for those people.
[01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:21.000]  And yet, by the time it's all done and said,
[01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:26.000]  they're looking at around $700 for a small infraction.
[01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.000]  Yeah, it's so hard.
[01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:32.000]  And so it's not about public safety.
[01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:38.000]  This is a money-making machine and the fact that the courts aren't following the law.
[01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:45.000]  Now, Brett, this ticket I speak of, just for grins, I went ahead and appealed it,
[01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:49.000]  and it's been rolling through the courts forever.
[01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.000]  I thought it was dead.
[01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:55.000]  And in fact, I have an oral argument at the end of the month.
[01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:01.000]  And what I found out is they have conveniently lost.
[01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:08.000]  I didn't notice, but now I do, that they audio record these,
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:16.000]  and the audio recording of when I actually trapped the deputy into perjury.
[01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  And by the way, the judge stopped the trial on this particular day,
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:25.000]  saying that the court was closing soon.
[01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:28.000]  It was only 3.15 p.m.
[01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:32.000]  That's the best excuse he could come up with.
[01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  Right.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:39.000]  And she saw that the deputy was going into perjury, and so she stopped me.
[01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  And then the next time I came to court,
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  she didn't let me proceed with my cross-examination, and then she ruled.
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:53.000]  That's not one trick, it's another.
[01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:57.000]  Well, nine ways from Sunday, this judge is in trouble.
[01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:58.000]  Bye.
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:26.000]  All right.
[01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:28.000]  Thank you very much.
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.000]  Thank you.
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:28.000]  Thank you.
[01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:01.000]  Or call toll-free, 866-LAW-EZ.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.000]  All right, we are back.
[01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:32.000]  Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton, I'm Brett Fountain,
[01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:38.000]  and we are talking with Ted in California.
[01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:42.000]  So, Ted, all right, did you have anything else?
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:47.000]  No, I just wanted to give Olivier the heads-up on the watch out for the trial date,
[01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  and we may want to look into D&D for some administrative procedure
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:57.000]  and see if there's a continuous license or reinstated license.
[01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.000]  And then these other, I'll call in some other time, Brett, to continue.
[01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:06.000]  A little bit more time left before the oral argument on my appeal
[01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:10.000]  and of this traffic ticket is at the end of the month.
[01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:16.000]  Yeah, I know Randy was looking forward to interacting about that as well.
[01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:20.000]  I wish he were with us here tonight, but yeah, thanks.
[01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.000]  That's good input.
[01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:25.000]  I think that both of those are worth looking into.
[01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.000]  Thanks.
[01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  Thank you.
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:30.000]  All right, we'll talk with you soon then.
[01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:31.000]  Thanks.
[01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.000]  Good night.
[01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:41.000]  Okay, and we appear to have a first-time caller here in the 240 area code.
[01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:48.000]  If you're a caller in 240, could you give us a first name and a state, please?
[01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.000]  Hi, my name is Julie, and I'm in Maryland.
[01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  Can you hear me?
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.000]  Yes, Julie in Maryland.
[01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:56.000]  Well, thanks for calling.
[01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:59.000]  What do you have on your mind tonight?
[01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:07.000]  Well, I have a case, a towing case, and it happened back in November,
[01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:19.000]  and I'm suing the towing company and the apartment complex for conversion.
[01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:20.000]  Okay.
[01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  And I wanted to go over a few things with you.
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:36.000]  So the first one is I'm filing in small claims court because it's under $5,000.
[01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:46.000]  And I wasn't sure if it's replevin or tort because replevin is the return of property
[01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:53.000]  or the value of the property that was taken, and conversion is a tort.
[01:29:53.000 --> 01:30:00.000]  So when I spoke to the court advisor or the help, you know,
[01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:08.000]  there's a helpline for pro se, he said it could be either.
[01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:17.000]  Yeah, replevin is you're seeking for the court to say you get it back,
[01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:23.000]  which is not exactly the same as seeking for the court to say
[01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:29.000]  that it was wrong for them to have taken it and you need to get damages.
[01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:34.000]  If you can kind of see those are two sort of overlapping things, either one of them.
[01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:38.000]  That's why I agree with them that it could be either.
[01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:45.000]  You've got these two circles overlapping and your case falls in the middle.
[01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.000]  Both of those touch it.
[01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:56.000]  So you could ask the court to have your stuff returned, your automobile, whatever, returned.
[01:30:56.000 --> 01:31:02.000]  That would be the replevin part, but you could also ask for damages and say,
[01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:09.000]  this wrong that was done to me, this tort, this is...
[01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:14.000]  You could look at the essential elements of both of those
[01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:23.000]  and just make bullet point statements that line up with each of those elements.
[01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:27.000]  One thing I would want to just ask you to check on first, though.
[01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:29.000]  You may have already done this,
[01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:35.000]  but apartment complexes often have something written into their contracts
[01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:41.000]  where people are agreeing to abide by some certain parking rules
[01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:44.000]  or some certain whatever regulations.
[01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:51.000]  You don't park here at certain times or only one car per unit.
[01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:55.000]  They write into a contract
[01:31:55.000 --> 01:32:01.000]  so that they're already set up with the authority to go tow people's stuff.
[01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:03.000]  Is it right?
[01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:08.000]  I mean, they could put whatever they wanted into the contract and you agreed to it, right?
[01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:12.000]  So just I would say take a look at that first.
[01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.000]  And that's what I'm going to...
[01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.000]  That's what my case hinges on.
[01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:23.000]  Shall I proceed?
[01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:24.000]  Okay.
[01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:28.000]  So basically, my daughter came to visit a friend,
[01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:34.000]  and she was towed 30 minutes later.
[01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:44.000]  Now, in the lease, it says that they have to give the resident or resident guest,
[01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:49.000]  you know, in this case, notice and make a request for the removal
[01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:53.000]  of any unauthorized motor vehicle.
[01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:57.000]  And if the resident or the resident's guest complies,
[01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:01.000]  and that the resident's guest will promptly comply.
[01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.000]  However, if the resident fails to do so,
[01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:08.000]  then the resident agrees to pay management, you know,
[01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:16.000]  for the rental of the space or management can remove the vehicle.
[01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:17.000]  Okay.
[01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:19.000]  So I'm saying that...
[01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.000]  That's reasonable.
[01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:22.000]  Okay, right.
[01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:23.000]  That's totally reasonable, right?
[01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:24.000]  So I'm saying that...
[01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.000]  But that's not what they did.
[01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:27.000]  Right.
[01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:31.000]  So they went back on their contract.
[01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:36.000]  They didn't make the request because there was no notice.
[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:42.000]  There was no sign around the parking area saying that guests
[01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:48.000]  or visitors must have permission or tag.
[01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:53.000]  I would probably just highlight one little distinction for you there.
[01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:56.000]  You can't say that they...
[01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:59.000]  It was not a breach of contract.
[01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:00.000]  Okay.
[01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:07.000]  All you can say is they took her car, and they would like to be able
[01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:11.000]  to think that they can turn around and rely on, oh, well, we have this contract.
[01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:13.000]  But if they will look at the contract,
[01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:19.000]  they didn't back themselves up by doing the things that they would have had to do
[01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:24.000]  in that contract in order to be right in towing.
[01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:29.000]  So there's a difference between the breach of contract.
[01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:31.000]  They didn't breach contract.
[01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  They just didn't give themselves the authority to tow the car.
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:37.000]  See what I mean?
[01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:38.000]  Yes.
[01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:43.000]  They didn't do what they needed to do in order to be authorized that way.
[01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:45.000]  Right.
[01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:49.000]  So in my pleadings or in my allegations,
[01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:54.000]  I should say that they didn't have the authority to call.
[01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:55.000]  Right.
[01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:56.000]  They didn't give the request.
[01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:59.000]  I mean, they didn't make the request for removal.
[01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:00.000]  Yeah.
[01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:07.000]  It is worth heading it off, mentioning that there are provisions in a contract
[01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:13.000]  where they could have been authorized to do such a thing if they had taken other
[01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:20.000]  certain steps which they did not take and do not apply to the instant action.
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:21.000]  Right.
[01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  So by just mentioning it, you're heading it off to keep them from, you know,
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:29.000]  trying to go down that rabbit trail.
[01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:31.000]  Okay.
[01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:37.000]  Now, what if they say, well, we were permitted because you didn't have a tag
[01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:41.000]  and, you know?
[01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:42.000]  No.
[01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:47.000]  Nobody can grant themselves the ability to steal other people's stuff just because
[01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:53.000]  the other person doesn't have some sticker that they didn't even know about.
[01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  Your daughter was not involved in any relationship with them that would have
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:04.000]  informed her in any kind of way that having or not having a certain color of a
[01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:08.000]  sticker is going to cause somebody to steal her stuff.
[01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:14.000]  That's not going to hold up for them.
[01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  Okay.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:25.000]  So my other question was, let's see, so I can't really go after this tow company
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:29.000]  because I realize the tow company has a contract and they can say,
[01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  I was authorized by, and that's what they said when I talked to them,
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:37.000]  I was authorized by the apartment complex to tow the car.
[01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:38.000]  Wait.
[01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:39.000]  Back up.
[01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:41.000]  Why would you say that you can't go after them?
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:43.000]  They're the ones who took it.
[01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  Right.
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.000]  They don't care who they have a contract with.
[01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  That doesn't matter.
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:49.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:55.000]  What if they got a call from Vinny and Vinny told them to come and visit you?
[01:36:55.000 --> 01:36:57.000]  Well, you don't know anything about that.
[01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  All you know is they came and did the dirty work.
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:03.000]  Okay.
[01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  Now, if they want to bring a cross claim in, when you go to court and you are
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:18.000]  saying, this man right here, and you're putting your finger in Mr. tow truck
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:23.000]  chest and you're saying, this man stole my car.
[01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:28.000]  Now, if he wants to throw the apartments under the bus and say, but he told me
[01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.000]  to.
[01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:31.000]  Right.
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:33.000]  Why would he do that?
[01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:39.000]  You don't have to consider him legitimate just because he claims it was okay.
[01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:45.000]  Okay.
[01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:48.000]  All right.
[01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:52.000]  Do I have to bring in any city ordinances?
[01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:54.000]  I'm sorry, not city, but state.
[01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:55.000]  Okay.
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.000]  So let me explain something.
[01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  The Maryland Code of Transportation has their own guidelines or codes of what
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  should happen in order for a tow to happen and then what the towing company
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:11.000]  has to do.
[01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:14.000]  In other words, they have to take a photograph and they have to send you a
[01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  bill with this type of information.
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:29.000]  However, in that county, the codes are lenient, not stringent.
[01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:38.000]  It's supposed to be more stringent when I'm reading the state code in the, yeah.
[01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:44.000]  So I don't know if I should bring that in because that's going down the wrong
[01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:45.000]  path.
[01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.000]  I'm not really going to, I don't want to.
[01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:57.000]  Are you harmed by that?
[01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:02.000]  Yes, because they didn't, they did not, they didn't, they didn't follow
[01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.000]  procedure.
[01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:06.000]  Okay.
[01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  If their failure to follow procedure was harmful to you in some way, then you
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:16.000]  could look at making that into a separate count.
[01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:19.000]  You probably wouldn't want to mix it in with the first one because you've got
[01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:22.000]  one that says, they stole my stuff.
[01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  That's one thing.
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:28.000]  And then you've got this other count over here that says they harmed me in
[01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:34.000]  that, for whatever, in whatever details fit the fact set there.
[01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  They took it.
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:40.000]  The state required them to do X, Y, and Z and notify me in this way, and they
[01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:44.000]  didn't, which cost me X dollars more.
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