[00:00.000 --> 00:06.600] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution that guarantee [00:06.600 --> 00:09.760] the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [00:09.760 --> 00:11.240] Our liberty depends on it. [00:11.240 --> 00:15.180] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember [00:15.180 --> 00:17.280] your First Amendment rights. [00:17.280 --> 00:18.880] Privacy is under attack. [00:18.880 --> 00:22.480] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [00:22.480 --> 00:27.240] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [00:27.240 --> 00:32.320] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself. [00:32.320 --> 00:35.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [00:35.000 --> 00:39.280] This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com, the private search [00:39.280 --> 00:42.840] engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [00:42.840 --> 00:45.040] Start over with Startpage. [00:45.040 --> 00:48.120] Spar, it's what fighters do. [00:48.120 --> 00:51.080] It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment. [00:51.080 --> 00:54.800] If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you. [00:54.800 --> 01:01.920] Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, [01:01.920 --> 01:02.920] and R for religion. [01:02.920 --> 01:07.320] Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press, [01:07.320 --> 01:11.200] assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter. [01:11.200 --> 01:14.920] We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. [01:14.920 --> 01:18.440] It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out [01:18.440 --> 01:21.120] the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail. [01:21.120 --> 01:31.440] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:31.440 --> 01:35.120] The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution. [01:35.120 --> 01:38.560] They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [01:38.560 --> 01:40.040] Our liberty depends on it. [01:40.040 --> 01:43.940] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember [01:43.940 --> 01:47.080] one of your constitutional rights. [01:47.080 --> 01:48.680] Privacy is under attack. [01:48.680 --> 01:52.280] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [01:52.280 --> 01:57.040] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [01:57.040 --> 02:02.200] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself. [02:02.200 --> 02:04.800] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [02:04.800 --> 02:09.100] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, the private search [02:09.100 --> 02:12.640] engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [02:12.640 --> 02:16.240] Start over with StartPage. [02:16.240 --> 02:20.560] When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill [02:20.560 --> 02:22.640] of Rights in a big old bear hug. [02:22.640 --> 02:27.120] It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms [02:27.120 --> 02:31.000] that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight. [02:31.000 --> 02:32.000] Get it? [02:32.000 --> 02:34.280] Two arms, bear hug, bear arms? [02:34.280 --> 02:37.880] The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captioned the spirit of the Second Amendment so well [02:37.880 --> 02:43.640] when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary [02:43.640 --> 02:48.200] conduct, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which [02:48.200 --> 02:50.960] historically has proved to always be possible. [02:50.960 --> 02:52.800] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. [02:52.800 --> 03:16.360] More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [03:22.800 --> 03:46.160] the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary conduct, [03:46.160 --> 04:04.000] one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which [04:04.000 --> 04:23.240] now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now [04:23.240 --> 04:41.560] appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears [04:41.560 --> 05:05.040] remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote [05:05.040 --> 05:21.360] in America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in [05:21.360 --> 05:31.160] America, but which now appears remote in America, but which now appears remote in America, but [05:31.160 --> 05:40.160] year and a year and a half with COVID and the election and all this depression and [05:41.440 --> 05:47.920] apparent corruption has, has been a struggle, but I see things changing. [05:49.640 --> 05:55.360] And you know, you know, I've been researching these kinds of things for a long time and [05:55.360 --> 06:01.520] politics tends to move in cycles, about a 50 year cycle. [06:02.480 --> 06:09.480] We are on a 70 year cycle at the moment, but it's like a pendulum [06:09.480 --> 06:11.440] that swings back and forth. [06:12.960 --> 06:21.720] The pendulum swung last year and a half to now to the liberal side. [06:21.720 --> 06:26.640] And I see the pendulum swinging back to the conservative side. [06:28.080 --> 06:34.480] So for the last year and a half, I can't speak for Brett, but for me, [06:34.800 --> 06:37.240] it has been stressful. [06:39.000 --> 06:44.120] I see the country moving in a direction that is disturbing. [06:45.560 --> 06:50.240] I have seen for this last year and a half or so, but now I see [06:50.240 --> 06:51.840] the pendulum moving back. [06:53.600 --> 07:07.000] If ever there was a time for those of us who tend to be conservative, who tend to [07:07.000 --> 07:14.120] believe in what the constitution actually says and the right of things in the rule of law. [07:15.160 --> 07:17.720] The pendulum is swinging back in our direction. [07:17.720 --> 07:24.800] And it's time for us all to stand up and help give that pendulum a little shove. [07:25.520 --> 07:27.920] I'm in the process of doing that. [07:28.880 --> 07:33.640] I am going after the Travis County district attorney. [07:34.160 --> 07:39.640] Travis County, for those of you who are in other states, in Texas, Travis [07:39.640 --> 07:41.360] County is the seat of government. [07:41.360 --> 07:44.800] And we have Travis County, who is the seat of government. [07:44.800 --> 07:53.320] And we have San Antonio, which is the eighth largest municipality in the nation. [07:55.040 --> 07:58.760] We have Houston, we have Dallas and Fort Worth. [07:59.800 --> 08:05.720] Houston's about eight million, Dallas and Fort Worth, about six million. [08:05.720 --> 08:10.280] San Antonio, I think they were eight or nine million, they're actually bigger than Houston. [08:11.040 --> 08:33.040] We have these few areas that are conservative and the political pendulum is [08:33.040 --> 08:35.680] swinging back in their direction. [08:35.960 --> 08:41.560] Texas, I have the opinion that Texas, of all the states, is the most conservative [08:42.360 --> 08:45.280] and the most stable, the most consistent. [08:46.840 --> 08:53.200] I think Florida is probably next and Illinois, probably third. [08:54.160 --> 08:56.880] But first is Texas, 29 million people. [08:56.880 --> 09:05.800] We are, you know, I've lived in Illinois, I've lived in Florida, before I came to Texas, [09:05.800 --> 09:10.920] I spent eight years looking for the best place in the country to live and I didn't care [09:10.920 --> 09:13.560] about the economy, I didn't care about climate. [09:14.680 --> 09:21.800] I wanted to find the place where the best people in the country were to live with. [09:21.800 --> 09:23.160] And everybody said Texas. [09:23.160 --> 09:31.320] I came to Texas and I believe they were right, and it is my opinion that Texas is poised [09:32.280 --> 09:36.520] to be the harbinger of things to come. [09:36.800 --> 09:41.760] California used to be, but they have gone so far to the left [09:41.760 --> 09:45.000] that they've actually, absolutely gone insane. [09:45.000 --> 09:52.120] And Texas has the conservative power to bring the nation back [09:52.120 --> 09:59.040] to something sensible and stable. [09:59.040 --> 10:03.240] Do they have to build a wall, though, to keep Californians out [10:03.240 --> 10:05.680] and make sure the Californians pay for the wall? [10:06.160 --> 10:08.320] Well, I don't think we have to keep them out. [10:08.320 --> 10:13.600] It's just, you know, we have to build a wall, though, to keep Californians out [10:13.600 --> 10:17.600] and the only way we have to keep them out is if we can bring them through, [10:17.600 --> 10:21.360] we can strip their liberal nature. [10:21.360 --> 10:27.640] So don't bring, don't do to Texas what you did to California. [10:28.000 --> 10:34.880] I saw a sign in Florida, a big billboard, and apparently they're having the same issue [10:34.880 --> 10:39.160] with people coming from California, so they say, don't vote for what you fled. [10:40.480 --> 10:41.840] Yes, exactly. [10:41.840 --> 10:49.160] And what was it, there was a sign that on entering Texas from the west that said, [10:49.160 --> 10:55.360] if you're from California, keep going, don't stop in here, in Texas. [10:55.360 --> 11:00.040] I think, you know, this is a pendulum. [11:00.040 --> 11:02.960] This is a cycle. [11:02.960 --> 11:13.080] And we have, the liberal side has expressed itself and it's not working out very well. [11:14.120 --> 11:23.400] And I'm looking forward to the nation moving back to a more conservative posture. [11:24.440 --> 11:29.240] The vast majority of the public now is older, more sophisticated. [11:29.240 --> 11:35.760] You know, these young kids, they get out of high school and they rebel against their parents. [11:36.240 --> 11:42.840] They need to struggle to find themselves and define themselves in this culture. [11:44.520 --> 11:50.400] And they forget, you know, I'm 72 years old. [11:51.200 --> 11:57.640] What my children forgot when they were 16, they forgot that I was 16 once. [11:57.640 --> 12:05.960] And then I was 17 and then I was 18 and 19 and 20 and 30 and 40 and 50. [12:06.320 --> 12:12.400] They think we forgot all that stuff we learned along the way. [12:13.040 --> 12:17.120] And they have to come back and reteach us. [12:17.120 --> 12:27.120] What I see happening in the country as a whole is the country itself is maturing. [12:27.680 --> 12:41.560] When I was born, 1949, first half of the last century, the average age was in the early 20s. [12:41.560 --> 12:53.000] When I was 26, the average age in the country was my age, and I can certify [12:53.000 --> 12:59.600] that when I was 26, I was absolutely certifiably insane. [13:00.600 --> 13:03.840] I thought I knew everything. [13:04.480 --> 13:08.120] I didn't know squat. [13:08.120 --> 13:17.760] I was 26 and then I became 27 and 8 and 9 and 30 and 35 and 40 and 50 and 55 and 60. [13:18.480 --> 13:26.480] And all during that time, I had all sorts of experiences and I learned all sorts of things [13:26.480 --> 13:31.120] and I watched all kinds of political maneuvers go on. [13:31.600 --> 13:34.400] And I learned from those things. [13:34.400 --> 13:43.840] My children, when they were 16, 17, 18, 20, they were discovering the world anew. [13:43.840 --> 13:52.240] And they thought they were finding new information that no one else had ever seen before. [13:52.720 --> 13:54.120] Got it all figured out. [13:54.720 --> 14:00.120] Exactly. And they looked at us old folks with the presumption [14:00.120 --> 14:08.760] that somehow we got stupid and we forgot all the experience that we've had over all [14:08.760 --> 14:15.320] of these years and they needed to show us how the world really worked. [14:15.800 --> 14:22.560] And if you look at cultures, you know, look at California with all the college students [14:22.560 --> 14:26.960] out there and all of them coming up with all these great ideas and looking [14:26.960 --> 14:30.240] at all those old fogies as if we didn't know squat. [14:32.400 --> 14:41.360] Well, we've been where they were and then we've been where they're going to be next year, [14:41.480 --> 14:43.280] year after, year after that. [14:43.760 --> 14:52.000] We've been through where they're at and older cultures, Japanese, Chinese, the older people, [14:52.000 --> 15:00.920] it was their job, their purpose to cultural wisdom [15:00.920 --> 15:04.280] that they could then impart back to the children. [15:05.560 --> 15:10.640] In this country, we seem to have lost respect to the ages, the aged. [15:10.880 --> 15:15.400] We assume that all the older people are somehow demented. [15:17.400 --> 15:19.640] And we have no idea what's going on. [15:19.640 --> 15:25.840] And I think we're reaching a point now with the kinds of stresses that we're dealing [15:25.840 --> 15:31.920] with that people are beginning to realize that maybe these old folks aren't [15:31.920 --> 15:34.080] as ignorant as we thought they were. [15:35.480 --> 15:38.720] It'll be nice to imagine that that's a pendulum as well. [15:38.720 --> 15:40.480] It is a pendulum. [15:42.480 --> 15:47.440] You know, things are getting out of hand and it's going to take those who are stable [15:47.440 --> 15:53.040] and understand how things work to bring things back in order, but it is a pendulum. [15:54.160 --> 16:02.880] It's one to the left, it's swinging back to the right, and it'll swing back to the right [16:02.880 --> 16:07.720] and the older people will be around a while, they will get things stabilized, [16:07.720 --> 16:12.120] then it will swing back to the left, not going to stop. [16:12.120 --> 16:19.640] And it's not even a problem, it's the way things should be. [16:19.640 --> 16:26.200] It should move from one extreme to the other so that we can begin to settle on the middle. [16:28.000 --> 16:31.240] And I see things moving back to the right. [16:31.240 --> 16:36.360] They moved far to the left and we got Biden in there and he's appealing [16:36.360 --> 16:41.240] to all these college children and they're beginning to realize they're running [16:41.240 --> 16:43.240] out of college kids. [16:43.240 --> 16:49.320] The old folks are vastly outnumbering them and now we're moving back to the right. [16:49.320 --> 16:52.600] So we are on the upcycle. [16:52.600 --> 16:56.880] I'm excited, I'm happy about what's happening. [16:56.880 --> 17:00.400] Even though it sounds awful, we'll be right back. [17:00.400 --> 17:05.480] Are you being harassed by debt collectors with phone calls, letters, or even losses? 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[19:11.960 --> 19:34.960] Look what we've got, we ask the Christians, don't know what they're hiding, don't have an answer. [19:34.960 --> 19:42.960] We ask the Christians, look what we've got, and they don't have an answer. [19:42.960 --> 19:49.440] So please listen, I can't go and choose my sweet Lord, how they want me to take it easy. [19:49.440 --> 19:52.440] They might not wait too politically, and then they'll get it. [19:52.440 --> 19:57.160] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, [19:57.160 --> 20:00.440] and I'm going to turn the phone lines on. [20:00.440 --> 20:05.080] A call-in number, 512-646-1984. [20:05.080 --> 20:08.440] If you have a question or comment, give us a call, phone lines are on, [20:08.440 --> 20:11.280] they'll be on all night. [20:11.280 --> 20:18.880] We'd be glad to hear any comments and be more than willing to respond to any questions. [20:18.880 --> 20:23.400] When I started out, I spoke to what's going on in Travis County. [20:23.400 --> 20:37.520] I have been in this area of research for almost 40 years now, trying to figure out how to organize our issues [20:37.520 --> 20:42.760] so we can change things, and we're moving in that direction. [20:42.760 --> 20:53.560] I have used Tina Colebrook's complaints against the ex-director of the U.S. Treasury, [20:53.560 --> 21:03.920] Mnuchin, accusing him of crimes that he committed when he was acting as the president of One West Bank. [21:03.920 --> 21:07.360] Tina filed those with the district attorney in Travis County, [21:07.360 --> 21:11.280] and Travis County is important because it's a seat of government. [21:11.280 --> 21:18.960] All these other counties around Texas, some 254 counties, looked to Travis County as the seat of government. [21:18.960 --> 21:22.080] So he was the right one to hammer. [21:22.080 --> 21:32.720] But Tina filed these complaints, and one of the complaints was against a Texas, [21:32.720 --> 21:50.760] and it alleged that Mnuchin and his lawyer directed a notary not to send a copy of her ledger to Tina Colebrook. [21:50.760 --> 21:53.480] And that's crime in the state of Texas. [21:53.480 --> 21:57.320] So he filed against them, but they also filed some other crimes, other allegations, [21:57.320 --> 22:08.240] and those allegations were clearly federal allegations over which the district attorney did not have jurisdiction. [22:08.240 --> 22:11.520] And that was the good part. [22:11.520 --> 22:16.440] And the reason that was a good thing is because the prosecuting attorney sent a letter to Ms. [22:16.440 --> 22:23.880] Colebrook saying that they did not have jurisdiction, so they were not going to pursue prosecution. [22:23.880 --> 22:28.840] And I looked at it and said, is that a fact? Jack. [22:28.840 --> 22:39.520] So where in the heck did you get authority to determine that you did not have jurisdiction? [22:39.520 --> 22:44.600] Jurisdiction is not a bar to prosecution. [22:44.600 --> 22:48.640] Jurisdiction is an affirmative defense. [22:48.640 --> 22:52.360] So the prosecutor would need to put in a motion to dismiss? [22:52.360 --> 22:57.560] No, he don't even have authority to do that. [22:57.560 --> 23:02.920] He has to wait until after the magistrate makes the call and then put a motion in? [23:02.920 --> 23:07.480] No, jurisdiction is not a bar. [23:07.480 --> 23:12.480] It's an affirmative defense that must be pled. [23:12.480 --> 23:19.400] Who did the prosecutor think he was pleading jurisdiction for the accused? [23:19.400 --> 23:22.200] He's not their lawyer. [23:22.200 --> 23:25.440] I guess he thought he was the magistrate. [23:25.440 --> 23:29.920] That's exactly what I accused him of. [23:29.920 --> 23:37.000] Only magistrates get to make a determination of probable cause, not prosecuting attorneys. [23:37.000 --> 23:45.960] Our legislature went to great lengths to ensure that a prosecuting attorney would not be in [23:45.960 --> 23:51.040] a position to exercise prosecutorial discretion. [23:51.040 --> 24:01.920] The only people in Texas law who can exercise prosecutorial discretion by making a determination [24:01.920 --> 24:12.440] of probable cause is a magistrate in an examining trial or a trial judge on a motion to dismiss. [24:12.440 --> 24:16.640] Nobody else can do that. [24:16.640 --> 24:19.120] So who did the prosecutor think he was? [24:19.120 --> 24:20.720] Oh, he was right. [24:20.720 --> 24:30.600] He did not have jurisdiction, but he did not have standing to make that determination. [24:30.600 --> 24:37.400] If he wanted to dismiss the case, he could file a motion with the trial court, moving [24:37.400 --> 24:46.960] the court to dismiss the case in the interest of justice, and the judge of the trial court [24:46.960 --> 24:52.080] could dismiss that case, not the prosecutor. [24:52.080 --> 25:02.240] Our founders created grand juries and magistrates to ensure that prosecutors did not have that [25:02.240 --> 25:04.680] power. [25:04.680 --> 25:13.120] Grand juries were created to protect the public from prosecuting attorneys. [25:13.120 --> 25:14.680] Prosecutors didn't like that. [25:14.680 --> 25:19.360] Prosecutors wanted to be able to determine who to prosecute, who not to, because after [25:19.360 --> 25:21.360] all, I'm the prosecutor. [25:21.360 --> 25:25.200] I'm the guy that has to prosecute this case. [25:25.200 --> 25:30.720] So you're telling me that I get a case I don't think I can prosecute and I have to prosecute [25:30.720 --> 25:31.720] it anyway? [25:31.720 --> 25:35.720] Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you. [25:35.720 --> 25:40.000] At least as far as the motion to dismiss, I mean, you can't just cut it out from the [25:40.000 --> 25:41.000] very beginning. [25:41.000 --> 25:42.000] Yeah. [25:42.000 --> 25:44.920] I don't care if you think you can win this or not. [25:44.920 --> 25:45.920] You have a duty. [25:45.920 --> 25:51.720] You're a lawyer that the state hired to represent them. [25:51.720 --> 25:54.040] That's all. [25:54.040 --> 25:56.040] You are not a magistrate. [25:56.040 --> 25:58.720] You are not a trial judge. [25:58.720 --> 26:04.960] Only magistrates and trial judges can make a determination of probable cause. [26:04.960 --> 26:10.040] Well, you don't want him to feel unimportant or anything, do you? [26:10.040 --> 26:14.560] I mean, he's flippable to feel like his feelings hurt if you don't let him be a magistrate [26:14.560 --> 26:15.560] sometimes. [26:15.560 --> 26:16.560] Poor baby. [26:16.560 --> 26:18.920] I feel for you, but I can't reach you. [26:18.920 --> 26:22.760] You're just a chump lawyer hired by the state. [26:22.760 --> 26:25.200] You want to be something more? [26:25.200 --> 26:28.360] Good luck with that. [26:28.360 --> 26:34.080] Might be personally, I'm going to land on you like a ton of bricks. [26:34.080 --> 26:40.400] I went to the prosecutor's office because that's the only address I have for the grand [26:40.400 --> 26:49.240] jury and gave the prosecutor's investigator a criminal complaint, a set of criminal complaints [26:49.240 --> 26:55.360] sealed inside an envelope addressed to the former of the grand jury and instructed the [26:55.360 --> 27:03.040] prosecutor, I mean, I'm sorry, instructed the investigator to whom I gave the complaint [27:03.040 --> 27:07.680] to give this to the grand jury, do not open it. [27:07.680 --> 27:11.360] Tell your boss, do not open it. [27:11.360 --> 27:12.360] It's a trap. [27:12.360 --> 27:15.360] He said, it's a trap? [27:15.360 --> 27:17.880] I said, yes, it is. [27:17.880 --> 27:19.320] And apparently she didn't get that. [27:19.320 --> 27:25.800] So she gave it to her boss and her boss opened it and found criminal complaints against her [27:25.800 --> 27:33.640] boss for not presenting criminal complaints against public officials to the grand jury. [27:33.640 --> 27:36.320] Oh, that kind of trap. [27:36.320 --> 27:39.320] Why didn't you say so? [27:39.320 --> 27:40.880] Oh yes. [27:40.880 --> 27:47.400] If we are to get control of our system, we must step up and take control of our system. [27:47.400 --> 27:53.600] I hope the prosecuting attorney now understands that I set him up and played him like a cheap [27:53.600 --> 27:56.680] fiddle. [27:56.680 --> 28:01.720] The only reason I could do this is because I'm just like you. [28:01.720 --> 28:04.360] I'm an ordinary citizen. [28:04.360 --> 28:09.440] We can do this kind of thing and we need to do this kind of thing. [28:09.440 --> 28:11.040] I've got a whole board full of callers. [28:11.040 --> 28:15.400] I want to talk about what I'm addressing all night long because I think it's really great, [28:15.400 --> 28:18.120] but I do have a bunch of callers. [28:18.120 --> 28:22.520] I'm going to go ahead and go to our callers if you want to know more about this particular [28:22.520 --> 28:30.040] issue, send me an email and I'll explain the underlying strategy in more detail, or maybe [28:30.040 --> 28:34.080] I can go into it in more detail tomorrow night when I have more time, but I have so many [28:34.080 --> 28:35.080] callers. [28:35.080 --> 28:36.320] I want to get to our callers. [28:36.320 --> 28:39.760] First one we're going to go to is Olivier in Tennessee. [28:39.760 --> 28:45.440] Hello Olivier, what do you have for us today? [28:45.440 --> 28:50.880] I wanted to make a quick comment about what you were saying. [28:50.880 --> 29:02.720] I had an incident where I called you and informed you that the courts, in one of my cases, the [29:02.720 --> 29:18.400] judges had set a trial, but I filed a motion to dismiss because of certain issues. [29:18.400 --> 29:26.040] In the hearing court, the judge told me, well, we'll hear your motion on the trial date. [29:26.040 --> 29:31.640] I told the judge that I want my motion to be heard before the trial date. [29:31.640 --> 29:32.640] He had an attitude. [29:32.640 --> 29:33.640] He came at me. [29:33.640 --> 29:34.640] A judge with an attitude? [29:34.640 --> 29:35.640] You don't say. [29:35.640 --> 29:36.640] Your commercial is about to come up. [29:36.640 --> 29:37.640] Hello? [29:37.640 --> 29:52.200] Okay, somebody muted my mic while I was... Brett, did you mute my mic? [29:52.200 --> 29:53.200] I wish I could. [29:53.200 --> 29:54.200] Hang on. [29:54.200 --> 29:55.200] We'll be right back. [29:55.200 --> 30:05.640] My wife... 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[32:55.440 --> 33:02.440] Order your copy today and together we can have the free society we all want and deserve. [33:26.440 --> 33:45.440] Okay, we are back. [33:45.440 --> 33:47.440] Randy Kaltenbrecht, Fountain Rule of Law Radio. [33:47.440 --> 33:50.440] We're talking to Olivier in Tennessee. [33:50.440 --> 33:52.440] Okay, Olivier, where were we? [33:52.440 --> 33:58.440] I was kind of busy on the break there trying to get everybody sorted out. [33:58.440 --> 34:00.440] Where were we? [34:00.440 --> 34:05.440] I was making a comment about what you said earlier about sticking up in court, and you [34:05.440 --> 34:06.440] were right. [34:06.440 --> 34:16.440] I was making a comment for that where on one of my cases, I filed a motion, and of course [34:16.440 --> 34:20.440] the motion was going to be detriment to the argument that they had. [34:20.440 --> 34:31.440] This is more concrete because now I'm filing things that are particular to the procedure [34:31.440 --> 34:39.440] that they used to suspend my license, and the reason that I redressed it was because [34:39.440 --> 34:42.440] of the unlawful suspension of the license. [34:42.440 --> 34:52.440] So the motion should be more specific as far as their code goes and the violation of the [34:52.440 --> 34:53.440] Constitution. [34:53.440 --> 34:55.440] One question I have. [34:55.440 --> 35:04.440] Were you able to overcome the fact that you were driving in Florida while black? [35:04.440 --> 35:06.440] No, not yet. [35:06.440 --> 35:10.440] Okay, I hope we get to that one. [35:10.440 --> 35:12.440] Not yet. [35:12.440 --> 35:16.440] What were you thinking? [35:16.440 --> 35:20.440] I thought I had freedom. [35:20.440 --> 35:25.440] Oh, you're my naive child. [35:25.440 --> 35:28.440] I thought I had freedom. [35:28.440 --> 35:36.440] Okay, for all those of you listening, Olivier is an interesting character. [35:36.440 --> 35:48.440] I first saw him in Clarksville, Tennessee, striking individual, walked into the courtroom, [35:48.440 --> 35:57.440] and he was black in Tennessee with dreadlocks and a sweatshirt, and he stepped up to the [35:57.440 --> 36:06.440] podium and opened his mouth, and everybody in the place stopped in their tracks. [36:06.440 --> 36:15.440] They could not believe the level of articulation that come out of his mouth. [36:15.440 --> 36:19.440] I was impressed. [36:19.440 --> 36:21.440] Anyway, so I pick on him about that a lot. [36:21.440 --> 36:26.440] He's got a lot of gall driving in Florida black. [36:26.440 --> 36:30.440] The police pulled him over, and they thought, here's an easy mark. [36:30.440 --> 36:34.440] He landed on them like a ton of bricks. [36:34.440 --> 36:36.440] Okay, I'll shut up about that. [36:36.440 --> 36:38.440] Go ahead. [36:38.440 --> 36:44.440] So now the judge tells me, well, we'll look at this motion on trial day. [36:44.440 --> 36:50.440] I tell him, no, we're going to have a hearing day because we're going to look over that [36:50.440 --> 36:52.440] motion before trial day. [36:52.440 --> 36:58.440] He threw his spit, and we're like, well, we've got a speedy trial. [36:58.440 --> 37:00.440] I looked at him again. [37:00.440 --> 37:03.440] I said, we're going to look at that motion before the trial day. [37:03.440 --> 37:07.440] Whatever you have to do to make that happen, that's what I want to do. [37:07.440 --> 37:14.440] I guess he expected some awkward answer, so he kind of looked at me funny. [37:14.440 --> 37:19.440] He stared in the headlight, and then he was like, well, okay. [37:19.440 --> 37:27.440] We're going to just call the assistant and make a hearing day before the trial day. [37:27.440 --> 37:29.440] I said, okay, fine. [37:29.440 --> 37:33.440] So now, almost a week go by, I call the assistant, and I try to get a trial day. [37:33.440 --> 37:41.440] She said, oh, no, the judge says that you're going to hear that motion on the trial day. [37:41.440 --> 37:44.440] I said, no, he told me to call you. [37:44.440 --> 37:51.440] I wouldn't be calling you if the judge did not agree to set a hearing day. [37:51.440 --> 37:52.440] Why would I be calling you? [37:52.440 --> 37:54.440] She said, well, I have to go confirm. [37:54.440 --> 37:56.440] I said, you can go confirm. [37:56.440 --> 37:58.440] I was like, I was in the courtroom. [37:58.440 --> 37:59.440] I spoke to the judge. [37:59.440 --> 38:02.440] What is there to confirm? [38:02.440 --> 38:11.440] She said, well, the judge said, listen, I don't know what the judge told you, but this is what's going to happen. [38:11.440 --> 38:26.440] We're going to have a hearing before the trial day on my motion, and after that, I'm going to file an interlocutor appeal as I have a right. [38:26.440 --> 38:32.440] I have a right to an interlocutor appeal, and that's exactly what I expect to do. [38:32.440 --> 38:38.440] She said, well, I'm going to talk to the judge, and we'll notify you by email. [38:38.440 --> 38:39.440] Notify me by email. [38:39.440 --> 38:41.440] I don't pick up my emails. [38:41.440 --> 38:43.440] I can't get a phone call. [38:43.440 --> 38:46.440] She said, well, the system will go by email. [38:46.440 --> 38:47.440] I said, okay. [38:47.440 --> 38:48.440] You know what? [38:48.440 --> 38:51.440] I'm not going to worry about it, but I said, okay, fine. [38:51.440 --> 38:53.440] I wasn't going to sit here and argue with her. [38:53.440 --> 39:02.440] Then I was going through my paperwork, because now it's almost time for my appeal on my declaratory judgment that they dismissed. [39:02.440 --> 39:06.440] I'm going through my paperwork and trying to line everything up, and I see an email. [39:06.440 --> 39:15.440] I go look at the email, and the trial date that they set for the email, because I got prepared, because I called you, [39:15.440 --> 39:22.440] and you told me just to ask for continuance when I go on the trial day, have a motion for continuance and all of that. [39:22.440 --> 39:28.440] I'm looking at the email, and they changed the trial date to a hearing date. [39:28.440 --> 39:31.440] In my head, I sat back. [39:31.440 --> 39:32.440] I'm like, man. [39:32.440 --> 39:39.440] Wait a minute. Hold on. You said they changed the trial date to a hearing date, [39:39.440 --> 39:43.440] so that's a hearing date on your motion rather than the trial itself. [39:43.440 --> 39:44.440] Yes. [39:44.440 --> 39:46.440] Okay. Go ahead. [39:46.440 --> 39:54.440] I was saying that in reference to what you were saying earlier, that we have all the power. [39:54.440 --> 40:01.440] Even though I did all that and I still communicated with you to try to get a resolve, [40:01.440 --> 40:05.440] but you told me to do something else, and what I did was just spoke. [40:05.440 --> 40:12.440] I spoke, communicated with them what right I had, and this is my intent, and I'm going to address this. [40:12.440 --> 40:20.440] Two days later, I get an email saying that my trial date is now a hearing date. [40:20.440 --> 40:32.440] It made me feel a little bit more reassured in the application being applied. That's hope. [40:32.440 --> 40:43.440] This is what happens when you use their law against them, and you're not intimidated. [40:43.440 --> 40:46.440] Okay. Where are you now? [40:46.440 --> 40:54.440] Right now, I'm, okay, so that was just the relate to what you said earlier. [40:54.440 --> 40:58.440] Right now, I'm looking at over all the information, the arguments that they made, [40:58.440 --> 41:01.440] which was there's a lot of things that's standing out, [41:01.440 --> 41:05.440] but I'm going to wait until there's a longer period of time because I would have to read it. [41:05.440 --> 41:10.440] It's hilarious. They are contradicting each other. It's a setup. [41:10.440 --> 41:15.440] So I'm going to feed that to you tomorrow if you're on the air. [41:15.440 --> 41:24.440] Today, I just wanted to go quickly over, let everybody have the case that really is explaining [41:24.440 --> 41:30.440] and addressing the issues about, they call it right to livelihood. [41:30.440 --> 41:51.440] It's 966F.3D5212020. It's Robertson versus Long. And in that case... [41:51.440 --> 41:55.440] Wait, wait. Robertson versus Law? [41:55.440 --> 41:58.440] Long. L-O-U-G. [41:58.440 --> 42:01.440] This is a Florida case? [42:01.440 --> 42:05.440] This is a federal case. This is the Tennessee case, [42:05.440 --> 42:13.440] which they ruled that suspension of the driver's license for court fines and fees [42:13.440 --> 42:28.440] without a procedural, without a process, without verifying that the indigent defendant has means to pay [42:28.440 --> 42:36.440] is unconstitutional because it says that we have the right to livelihood. [42:36.440 --> 42:52.440] Okay, so it doesn't go to whether or not you actually had the funds to secure counsel or whatever. [42:52.440 --> 42:59.440] It was, okay, let me make sure I got, I'm missing, I want to make sure I got this right. [42:59.440 --> 43:02.440] Say that again. [43:02.440 --> 43:16.440] They're saying that the state cannot suspend someone's license without having a disclosure [43:16.440 --> 43:19.440] or like a meeting, I forgot what they call it, but they have to have... [43:19.440 --> 43:23.440] To adjudicate the matter of whether or not the person can pay? [43:23.440 --> 43:35.440] Right, they have to prove, they have to provide the person, provide them ability to prove if they can pay or not pay. [43:35.440 --> 43:38.440] Okay, wait a minute, that was really, really important. [43:38.440 --> 43:39.440] Yeah. [43:39.440 --> 43:46.440] They have to prove that you can or you have to prove that you can't? [43:46.440 --> 43:50.440] Yeah, that's a big difference. [43:50.440 --> 43:53.440] They have the burden. [43:53.440 --> 43:54.440] Wow. [43:54.440 --> 44:00.440] Wow, that seems like an incredibly difficult hurdle to... [44:00.440 --> 44:01.440] I love Logos. [44:01.440 --> 44:04.440] Without the shows on this network, I'd be almost as ignorant as my friends. [44:04.440 --> 44:07.440] I'm so addicted to the truth now that there's no going back. [44:07.440 --> 44:08.440] I need my truth fix. [44:08.440 --> 44:13.440] I'd be lost without Logos, and I really want to help keep this network on the air. 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[46:32.440 --> 46:37.440] All it's taking is a misunderstanding. [46:37.440 --> 46:41.440] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain Rule of Law Radio, [46:41.440 --> 46:45.440] and we're talking to Olivier in Florida. [46:45.440 --> 46:48.440] You mentioned Robertson V. Long. [46:48.440 --> 46:52.440] I could not find it. Brett could not find it over the break. [46:52.440 --> 46:55.440] Can you give us a case number? [46:55.440 --> 47:07.440] Right. It says Robertson V. Long, 966 F, period, 3D, 521, [47:07.440 --> 47:11.440] Court of Appeals, 6th Circuit, 2020. [47:11.440 --> 47:15.440] And Randy, I know where you're going with it, and you're correct, [47:15.440 --> 47:21.440] because we're arguing that, hey, there's commercial and there's non-commercial. [47:21.440 --> 47:26.440] The court is saying, hey, we don't care if it's commercial or non-commercial, [47:26.440 --> 47:31.440] because underneath the right to livelihood, you have the right to a commercial license, [47:31.440 --> 47:35.440] and you have the right not to have a commercial license. [47:35.440 --> 47:40.440] But the state does not have the right to suspend your license, [47:40.440 --> 47:47.440] even if you're in commercial, because they did not have a court hearing [47:47.440 --> 47:50.440] to address your finances. [47:50.440 --> 47:53.440] So that is a violation of law. [47:53.440 --> 48:01.440] And then they turn around and say that there's a rational basis review. [48:01.440 --> 48:07.440] Rational basis review is basically saying, what the state is trying to enact, [48:07.440 --> 48:16.440] is it rational? And they, by law, is it rational to regulate what they have the right to regulate? [48:16.440 --> 48:26.440] And the courts have looked at it and said that it is irrational to suspend an indigent's license [48:26.440 --> 48:35.440] for failure to pay fines and fees, because they're already indigent. [48:35.440 --> 48:41.440] Okay. The fact that you're indigent necessarily means that paying the fines [48:41.440 --> 48:48.440] and fees would be unduly prohibitive and kill your access to the courts. [48:48.440 --> 48:58.440] Right. And they said that it's also different punishment on different class. [48:58.440 --> 49:04.440] Basically, some people can pay, and they get to keep their license, and other people can't pay. [49:04.440 --> 49:06.440] Exactly. [49:06.440 --> 49:12.440] So there's a whole bunch. If you look very closely into their wording, [49:12.440 --> 49:22.440] there's different ways to bring out this violation, this constitutional problem. [49:22.440 --> 49:26.440] There's different ways to argue it or say it. [49:26.440 --> 49:32.440] And this case really brought it out, and it really falls up on the right to livelihood. [49:32.440 --> 49:40.440] And during this research, I've come to find out even people who have commercial jobs [49:40.440 --> 49:44.440] can get things overturned or have an argument. [49:44.440 --> 49:48.440] Because, hey, you didn't bring me to court to see if I can afford to pay all this. [49:48.440 --> 49:54.440] I don't care if I make $10,000 a month. Who cares? [49:54.440 --> 50:01.440] You didn't bring me to court and assess my bills and everything that I had else to do [50:01.440 --> 50:06.440] according to what I'm paying if I'm going to be able to afford this? [50:06.440 --> 50:13.440] Because we have a right to livelihood, and you have to follow procedures, do process procedures. [50:13.440 --> 50:24.440] So essentially, everyone has been taken over, has been filed or violated. [50:24.440 --> 50:29.440] I think I'm missing something. [50:29.440 --> 50:31.440] I like it. [50:31.440 --> 50:35.440] How was the claim brought? [50:35.440 --> 50:43.440] And what protection should have been in place to ensure that the claim was properly brought [50:43.440 --> 50:50.440] against someone who could actually pay? [50:50.440 --> 50:55.440] And how did they know you couldn't pay? [50:55.440 --> 51:00.440] They have to have a hearing. [51:00.440 --> 51:06.440] Is there a presumption that someone accused of crime can't pay a fine? [51:06.440 --> 51:08.440] I don't think this goes to crime. [51:08.440 --> 51:14.440] This is talking specifically about a suspension, which is an administrative function. [51:14.440 --> 51:17.440] This is something I was looking at early on. [51:17.440 --> 51:24.440] Why are we dealing with a suspension anywhere other than the one agency [51:24.440 --> 51:30.440] that's been given administrative purview? [51:30.440 --> 51:35.440] And it's this one bunch in Austin, for Texas anyway, [51:35.440 --> 51:39.440] and they handle administrative hearings such as suspensions. [51:39.440 --> 51:50.440] So it does make sense to me that the act of suspension has to include all the factors. [51:50.440 --> 51:59.440] Well, I'm trying to understand Olivier in Florida. [51:59.440 --> 52:05.440] How do they get to you? [52:05.440 --> 52:13.440] Who is required to determine whether or not you have an inability to pay? [52:13.440 --> 52:21.440] Do you have to plead it, or must the state consider it automatically? [52:21.440 --> 52:25.440] The state must consider it. [52:25.440 --> 52:33.440] And how is the state required to make determinations concerning your ability to pay? [52:33.440 --> 52:37.440] By having a hearing. [52:37.440 --> 52:44.440] Does the state necessarily have to invoke a hearing for this purpose [52:44.440 --> 52:51.440] with no input from the accused? [52:51.440 --> 52:57.440] What I'm saying is, would they have to have this kind of hearing in every single case? [52:57.440 --> 53:05.440] Yes, the accused has to be present. [53:05.440 --> 53:11.440] Okay. But how does that go to inability to pay? [53:11.440 --> 53:14.440] Well, here's the thing. [53:14.440 --> 53:16.440] Certain people are indigent. [53:16.440 --> 53:24.440] Certain people, this third time, and the court cases have fines and fees on them, and they add up. [53:24.440 --> 53:32.440] So there's a statute in every state which allows the courts to suspend your license because of fines and fees. [53:32.440 --> 53:36.440] We need to attack that statute that says that's unlawful. [53:36.440 --> 53:42.440] You can't suspend for fines and fees, number one, without having a hearing [53:42.440 --> 53:49.440] to see if what you're doing is going to affect the person's right to livelihood, [53:49.440 --> 53:52.440] because you're not allowed to do that. [53:52.440 --> 53:53.440] So you do process. [53:53.440 --> 54:00.440] Number two, if the person is indigent, there's not even a reason to have a hearing, [54:00.440 --> 54:02.440] because he's indigent. [54:02.440 --> 54:05.440] You can't take their license because they have to... [54:05.440 --> 54:07.440] In the case, I was going to read some paragraphs, [54:07.440 --> 54:14.440] but it says that they have to take their children and mothers to hospitals. [54:14.440 --> 54:19.440] It gives a few examples. [54:19.440 --> 54:24.440] So number one, any suspensions, there must be a determination, [54:24.440 --> 54:30.440] a hearing determination given the person's opportunity and notice. [54:30.440 --> 54:35.440] Yeah, notice and opportunity, okay. [54:35.440 --> 54:41.440] So you're saying in this case they didn't give notice and opportunity? [54:41.440 --> 54:46.440] No, they don't even have a system set up to do that. [54:46.440 --> 54:48.440] They challenged the statute. [54:48.440 --> 54:50.440] Okay, stop, stop, stop. [54:50.440 --> 54:54.440] If they have a duty to do a certain thing, [54:54.440 --> 55:03.440] and they don't have a protocol or procedure set up to do that thing, [55:03.440 --> 55:07.440] what's that called? [55:07.440 --> 55:09.440] What is it called? [55:09.440 --> 55:10.440] Yeah. [55:10.440 --> 55:12.440] In due process? [55:12.440 --> 55:13.440] Yeah, exactly. [55:13.440 --> 55:14.440] That's what I'm thinking. [55:14.440 --> 55:22.440] And before we get to the merits, they failed to perform a duty they required to perform. [55:22.440 --> 55:25.440] That's what the court was saying. [55:25.440 --> 55:36.440] The court said that because they did not have a hearing to determine that that was a due process violation, [55:36.440 --> 55:43.440] it didn't mention anything about them being indigent or being a commercial driver or anything. [55:43.440 --> 55:49.440] The point is made is before the states send any license, [55:49.440 --> 55:53.440] privilege, rights, it doesn't matter what you call it, [55:53.440 --> 55:57.440] but before they send any license that must be a hearing, [55:57.440 --> 56:04.440] it's all because the license, commercial or non-commercial, [56:04.440 --> 56:12.440] commercial or non-commercial is an essential part of everyone's livelihood. [56:12.440 --> 56:21.440] That means you get up, you work to make money, or you get up to go have pleasure. [56:21.440 --> 56:26.440] So because that is an essential part of the right to livelihood, [56:26.440 --> 56:34.440] they must have a hearing to address that commercial, non-commercial, it doesn't matter. [56:34.440 --> 56:35.440] Okay. [56:35.440 --> 56:41.440] Have you attempted to secure a date for such a hearing? [56:41.440 --> 56:42.440] No. [56:42.440 --> 56:45.440] It's not our burden. [56:45.440 --> 56:51.440] We're not the one trying to suspend the license. [56:51.440 --> 56:56.440] So they have to set a hearing and they haven't. [56:56.440 --> 56:59.440] I'm kind of losing track here a little bit. [56:59.440 --> 57:00.440] Yes, yes. [57:00.440 --> 57:13.440] The plaintiffs sued Tennessee to that statute which allowed them to suspend the license. [57:13.440 --> 57:19.440] And they sued it underneath the fact that they're indigent [57:19.440 --> 57:23.440] and they should not be taking a license from indigent individuals [57:23.440 --> 57:26.440] because they can't pay fines and fees, [57:26.440 --> 57:30.440] and it'll be like imprisoning people for fines and fees. [57:30.440 --> 57:34.440] If you go to jail, when they suspend your license for fines and fees, [57:34.440 --> 57:40.440] you essentially went to jail for not paying fines and fees. [57:40.440 --> 57:47.440] So that becomes, that's absolutely forbidden, no debtors present. [57:47.440 --> 57:48.440] Right. [57:48.440 --> 57:51.440] You're going to jail because you're poor. [57:51.440 --> 57:52.440] Yes. [57:52.440 --> 57:56.440] That's what they were arguing, but the court has brought out other issues. [57:56.440 --> 57:58.440] They said, okay, yeah, that's fine, [57:58.440 --> 58:04.440] but there needs to be a determination, a hearing determination before all that happens. [58:04.440 --> 58:11.440] So before we get to using indigent, they've already broken the law. [58:11.440 --> 58:19.440] And if you can get them to break the law, then go ahead and have you filed against them for that. [58:19.440 --> 58:22.440] You've got a commercial coming up. [58:22.440 --> 58:23.440] Okay. [58:23.440 --> 58:24.440] Hang on. [58:24.440 --> 58:27.440] Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La Radio. [58:27.440 --> 58:32.440] I'll call it number 512-646-1984. [58:32.440 --> 58:33.440] Let's see. [58:33.440 --> 58:35.440] I lost track of where we're at. 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[01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.440] The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution. [01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:39.440] They guarantee you the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect. [01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:41.440] Our liberty depends on it. [01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:44.440] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way [01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:47.440] to remember one of your constitutional rights. [01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:19.440] Imagine four eyes staring at you through binoculars, [01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:22.440] a magnifying glass or a pair of x-ray goggles. [01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:25.440] That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom [01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.440] from unreasonable search and seizure. [01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.440] Fourth Amendment? Four eyes staring at you? Get it? 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OK, Olivier. [01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:12.440] Brett told me exactly where I should go with you, but I lost it in doing so. [01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:14.440] Bring us back, Brett. [01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.440] But he did get the date right. You've got to give him that. [01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:23.440] All right. So, yeah, I was just reminding that Olivier was calling in for some other reason. [01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:31.440] And then you caught him on this thing about the hearing, the suspension hearing about impoverished. [01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:37.440] And he had some other thing he had called in about, and he was about to move right on past this. [01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:42.440] Oh, I will say, though, just quickly, insert that I found that case. [01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:52.440] And I think I just heard it wrong because it is Robinson, R-O-B-I-N-S-O-N, Fred Robinson v. Jeff Long. [01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.440] But yeah, anyway, found it. [01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:58.440] But yeah, go ahead to what it was that you were calling about, Olivier. [01:04:58.440 --> 01:04:59.440] You had something else on your mind. [01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:04.440] You were telling us about the judge with a bad attitude and you were rolling through to get to somewhere. [01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:07.440] We didn't let you get that far. [01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:19.440] No, I cleared that up already. The basic thing was he tried to muscle the motion to be heard on the trial date to just, you know, run me over. [01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.440] I told him that the motion was going to be heard before the trial date. [01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:31.440] And he threw up an attitude, talking about, oh, well, speedy trial, this and that. [01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.440] And I looked at him. I restated myself. [01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.440] I said, the motion is going to be heard before the trial date. [01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.440] And then he's like, well, I said something and you gave me an answer. [01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.440] I looked at the judge. [01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:50.440] I said, whatever you have to do to make the motion be heard before the trial date, that's what I want. [01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:52.440] And he caught off. [01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:54.440] You know, like he couldn't. [01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.440] A lot of running around, but then you ended up getting it. [01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:04.440] And the bad part about it was like it was a line of attorneys standing there just looking at me like, what is going on here? [01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:12.440] So, you know, I guess the judge thought I was going to back down after he got aggressive with me. [01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.440] And then after I looked at him, I'm like, what didn't you understand? [01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:18.440] Like, do I have to restate the sentence again? [01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.440] You know, and after I said it that way, you know what I'm saying, he got embarrassed. [01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.440] He did not allow that to happen again. [01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:32.440] Then when I called his, when I called the judge's assistant to make the hearing date, she was giving an attitude. [01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:37.440] Like, oh, the judge says in the courtroom that you're not going to have a hearing date. [01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:38.440] I'm like, what? [01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:42.440] I'm like, I was in the courtroom and the judge did say that. [01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:47.440] And I corrected the judge and told him that I have a right and I wanted to be heard before that. [01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:55.440] And I told her that I have a right to an interrogatory appeal and that's what was going to happen. [01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:02.440] And then, you know, they made a, she made a mess first about the communication that was going to be had with me [01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:03.440] because I wanted a phone call. [01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.440] She's like, no, we do with email. [01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:06.440] Everything's on email. [01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.440] I'm like, well, I don't know how long, when I'm going to check my email. [01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:11.440] I said, oh, well, that's not my problem. [01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:13.440] I said, okay, you know what? [01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:14.440] Fine. [01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:15.440] It doesn't matter. [01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:21.440] As long as they understand that my motion is going to be heard before the hearing day [01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:25.440] and an interrogatory appeal is on its way. [01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:34.440] And then I was looking through my answers, through my lawsuits, through the cities and everything, [01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:39.440] getting everything organized, and I saw the email. [01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:45.440] They changed the trial date to a hearing date. [01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.440] So basically, letting me know that my message got across. [01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:53.440] Good. [01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:57.440] You have an interesting style. [01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:05.440] And I hope everybody listening can learn from that because this is how a sovereign, [01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:10.440] I don't like the term sovereign because they've adulterated it, [01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:17.440] but this is how a master of the servants conducts themselves. [01:08:17.440 --> 01:08:22.440] And these public servants are used to everybody coming in, meek as a lamb, [01:08:22.440 --> 01:08:25.440] and doing whatever they want them to do. [01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:29.440] They're not accustomed to someone taking them on. [01:08:29.440 --> 01:08:35.440] So where are we at this point with this case? [01:08:35.440 --> 01:08:38.440] Do you have a hearing date coming up? [01:08:38.440 --> 01:08:41.440] When is it? [01:08:41.440 --> 01:08:47.440] I have three cases in the county courts, [01:08:47.440 --> 01:08:55.440] but in a separate case where I'm suing them on the declaratory judgment on the civil part. [01:08:55.440 --> 01:08:57.440] So I think you might be getting them mixed up. [01:08:57.440 --> 01:08:59.440] It was kind of hard to follow. [01:08:59.440 --> 01:09:08.440] I only mentioned that because of what you were saying earlier to the crowd in your intro. [01:09:08.440 --> 01:09:18.440] It just reminded me of that experience that I had, and I wanted to mention that. [01:09:18.440 --> 01:09:21.440] We had lost the last part. [01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:23.440] I said that. [01:09:23.440 --> 01:09:28.440] I just wanted to mention that because I have several cases going up, [01:09:28.440 --> 01:09:30.440] so you've probably got them mixed up. [01:09:30.440 --> 01:09:34.440] Good chance I did. [01:09:34.440 --> 01:09:40.440] Okay, then center us. [01:09:40.440 --> 01:09:45.440] Just focus so we're going to run out of time. [01:09:45.440 --> 01:09:57.440] Okay, right now I wanted to give everybody the case that basically explains [01:09:57.440 --> 01:10:04.440] the unconstitutionality of the states to speak to the common vice. [01:10:04.440 --> 01:10:07.440] And it's a case that I just gave you. [01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:13.440] And the ways that we were speaking about it earlier are the ways [01:10:13.440 --> 01:10:19.440] that the court has brought out that are errant. [01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:24.440] Okay, the case you're talking about is Robertson v. Long, correct? [01:10:24.440 --> 01:10:26.440] Yes. [01:10:26.440 --> 01:10:28.440] What does that case say? [01:10:28.440 --> 01:10:31.440] Robinson. [01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:40.440] In that case, it says that the state, what happened in the case is the indigent defendant [01:10:40.440 --> 01:10:47.440] sued Tennessee stating that the statute that suspended their license for them [01:10:47.440 --> 01:10:53.440] not being able to pay, for the plaintiffs not being able to pay fines and fees [01:10:53.440 --> 01:10:55.440] was unconstitutional. [01:10:55.440 --> 01:10:58.440] That's the argument that they raised. [01:10:58.440 --> 01:11:04.440] But going through the case, the court explained yes, that's correct, [01:11:04.440 --> 01:11:07.440] but they basically explained the whole process. [01:11:07.440 --> 01:11:14.440] And what the court explains is that in order for the state to take away a right [01:11:14.440 --> 01:11:22.440] or privilege, there is a process, there is a hearing that needs to be in place [01:11:22.440 --> 01:11:29.440] before that right or privilege is taken away for fines and fees. [01:11:29.440 --> 01:11:33.440] Because everyone has a right to livelihood. [01:11:33.440 --> 01:11:35.440] Okay, what hearing is that? [01:11:35.440 --> 01:11:39.440] Has that hearing been held? [01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:42.440] No, the hearing hasn't been held. [01:11:42.440 --> 01:11:48.440] This is a common procedure that the states do not do. [01:11:48.440 --> 01:11:52.440] No state does it. [01:11:52.440 --> 01:11:57.440] Oh, so they're required to hold this hearing, but they don't hold this hearing. [01:11:57.440 --> 01:12:04.440] Right, so this is the same thing as the statutory construction requirement. [01:12:04.440 --> 01:12:09.440] There's things in the hearing that we're not aware to, [01:12:09.440 --> 01:12:11.440] the state is not really aware to. [01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:14.440] If they are aware to it, they don't want to do it [01:12:14.440 --> 01:12:17.440] because it's going to cost them more money and they're not going to win. [01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:20.440] But the point is that we're not aware to them. [01:12:20.440 --> 01:12:24.440] So since we don't know that the state has to have all these requirements [01:12:24.440 --> 01:12:28.440] on statutory constructions, we don't essentially know that the state has [01:12:28.440 --> 01:12:35.440] requirements to do before they suspend a right or a privilege [01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:43.440] because that right or privilege is attached to our right to livelihood. [01:12:43.440 --> 01:12:54.440] Okay, so when they don't act in accordance with the requirements, [01:12:54.440 --> 01:13:00.440] what is your remedy in Florida? [01:13:00.440 --> 01:13:02.440] What is the remedy? [01:13:02.440 --> 01:13:03.440] Yeah, what's the remedy? [01:13:03.440 --> 01:13:04.440] How do you go after them? [01:13:04.440 --> 01:13:08.440] What's the claim that you can make against them? [01:13:08.440 --> 01:13:13.440] Right now in Florida, the next step is I'm going to challenge the statute [01:13:13.440 --> 01:13:21.440] underneath the arguments that the federal court has listed in this case. [01:13:21.440 --> 01:13:24.440] I'm going to challenge the Florida statute, [01:13:24.440 --> 01:13:28.440] which allows them to suspend the licenses. [01:13:28.440 --> 01:13:32.440] I must say that it's unconstitutional because there is not a process there [01:13:32.440 --> 01:13:38.440] to have a hearing, to have a determination hearing to. [01:13:38.440 --> 01:13:40.440] I'm indigent. [01:13:40.440 --> 01:13:42.440] The case showed I'm indigent. [01:13:42.440 --> 01:13:50.440] My license has been suspended for fines and fees, which is unlawful. [01:13:50.440 --> 01:13:57.440] Okay, you brought the case law forward that shows specifically [01:13:57.440 --> 01:13:59.440] that that's unlawful. [01:13:59.440 --> 01:14:00.440] Yes. [01:14:00.440 --> 01:14:06.440] Did you consider filing criminally against the judge who would act [01:14:06.440 --> 01:14:10.440] in contravention to that case? [01:14:10.440 --> 01:14:22.440] Well, the judge that just changed my trial date to a hearing date [01:14:22.440 --> 01:14:27.440] is the judge that is facing one of those motions right now. [01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:29.440] This is new information. [01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:35.440] My argument is different because I want to uncover the whole automobile. [01:14:35.440 --> 01:14:39.440] I want to break it up real nice and clean. [01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:42.440] What's out here is a way out. [01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:45.440] If I can't prove my point, it doesn't matter. [01:14:45.440 --> 01:14:55.440] You're dead to the wrong because you were wrong at the word go. [01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:58.440] Okay, you said you were wrong at the word go. [01:14:58.440 --> 01:15:01.440] Who specifically does you refer to? [01:15:01.440 --> 01:15:02.440] The state. [01:15:02.440 --> 01:15:04.440] The ones who were trying to do the suspension. [01:15:04.440 --> 01:15:05.440] Yeah, the state. [01:15:05.440 --> 01:15:12.440] The ones who were trying to suspend your right from the word go. [01:15:12.440 --> 01:15:13.440] Okay, what's your remedy? [01:15:13.440 --> 01:15:15.440] How do you go after these guys? [01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:16.440] How do you go after? [01:15:16.440 --> 01:15:22.440] Well, the individual, the plaintiffs in this case filed a federal suit [01:15:22.440 --> 01:15:24.440] and challenged the statute. [01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:29.440] They won in the federal court. [01:15:29.440 --> 01:15:30.440] Okay, wait, wait, wait. [01:15:30.440 --> 01:15:32.440] What did they win? [01:15:32.440 --> 01:15:34.440] You said challenge the statute. [01:15:34.440 --> 01:15:39.440] Was the statute ruled unconstitutional? [01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:46.440] Yes, and the suspension of the license was ruled unconstitutional. [01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:52.440] So you have a jurisdiction trying to enforce a statute [01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:55.440] that has been ruled unconstitutional. [01:15:55.440 --> 01:15:58.440] Am I correct in that? [01:15:58.440 --> 01:16:00.440] This is new. [01:16:00.440 --> 01:16:07.440] So this is a new ruling that just happened, 2020. [01:16:07.440 --> 01:16:08.440] No, this is 2022. [01:16:08.440 --> 01:16:11.440] That's not so new. [01:16:11.440 --> 01:16:13.440] This is new. [01:16:13.440 --> 01:16:18.440] Well, this is new as far as implementing that statute. [01:16:18.440 --> 01:16:23.440] The way that the court has expressed it is new. [01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:25.440] Oh, okay. [01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:33.440] They express all the old rights, but also put it in a form to fit this case [01:16:33.440 --> 01:16:36.440] to show how it violated this case. [01:16:36.440 --> 01:16:43.440] I mean, these rules, the way that they applied it, [01:16:43.440 --> 01:16:54.440] it shows how they violated the law, how the state violated the law. [01:16:54.440 --> 01:17:00.440] All right, we'll have to talk about that on the other side. [01:17:00.440 --> 01:17:03.440] Are you looking to have a closer relationship with God [01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:06.440] and a better understanding of His Word? [01:17:06.440 --> 01:17:09.440] Then tune in to LogosRadioNetwork.com on Wednesdays [01:17:09.440 --> 01:17:12.440] from 8 to 10 p.m. Central Time for Scripture Talk, [01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:17.440] where Nana and her guests discuss the Scriptures in accord with 2 Timothy 2.15. 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[01:18:50.440 --> 01:18:57.440] That's RuleOfLawRadio.com or email m-i-c-h-a-e-l-m-i-r-r-a-s at yahoo.com [01:18:57.440 --> 01:19:00.440] to learn how to stop debt collectors now. [01:19:00.440 --> 01:19:11.440] This is the Logos Logos Radio Network. [01:19:11.440 --> 01:19:31.260] Music [01:19:41.440 --> 01:19:46.440] You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand [01:19:46.440 --> 01:19:51.440] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again [01:19:51.440 --> 01:20:11.440] Ain't gonna fool me [01:20:11.440 --> 01:20:21.440] Ain't gonna fool me [01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:51.440] Ain't gonna fool me [01:21:11.440 --> 01:21:21.440] Ain't gonna fool me [01:21:41.440 --> 01:21:51.440] Ain't gonna fool me [01:22:11.440 --> 01:22:21.440] Ain't gonna fool me [01:22:41.440 --> 01:22:51.440] Ain't gonna fool me [01:23:12.440 --> 01:23:16.440] Missouri [01:23:16.440 --> 01:23:20.440] New Kansas City [01:23:20.440 --> 01:23:21.440] No! [01:23:21.440 --> 01:23:23.440] I'm not Kansas City [01:23:23.440 --> 01:23:41.440] Yeah, it's by Springfield [01:23:41.440 --> 01:23:42.440] Mm-hmm [01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:51.440] But you guys can hear me fine? [01:23:51.440 --> 01:23:53.440] Yes, sir [01:23:53.440 --> 01:23:54.440] That's what your mind is saying [01:23:54.440 --> 01:23:55.440] All right [01:23:55.440 --> 01:24:00.440] All right, Randy, this is for a good old military friend [01:24:00.440 --> 01:24:03.440] A question that he has an issue to deal with [01:24:03.440 --> 01:24:09.440] He has a son who shot a pistol in a trailer [01:24:09.440 --> 01:24:11.440] Okay, hold on [01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:15.440] He has a son that shot a pistol in a trailer? [01:24:15.440 --> 01:24:18.440] Yeah, that's in Texas [01:24:18.440 --> 01:24:22.440] Was anybody else in the trailer? [01:24:22.440 --> 01:24:24.440] Yes [01:24:24.440 --> 01:24:30.440] It was his wife who he has had trouble with [01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:32.440] But I want to try and make this short and quick [01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:34.440] So you guys can have somebody else talk [01:24:34.440 --> 01:24:38.440] But anyways, so he got arrested [01:24:38.440 --> 01:24:43.440] There was two witnesses supposedly, which was the wife and some other guy [01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:46.440] They now refused to testify [01:24:46.440 --> 01:24:48.440] He did not get in front of a magistrate [01:24:48.440 --> 01:24:52.440] He has been in jail [01:24:52.440 --> 01:24:54.440] So-called assigned lawyer [01:24:54.440 --> 01:24:56.440] Will not talk to him until... [01:24:56.440 --> 01:24:57.440] Wait, wait, wait [01:24:57.440 --> 01:25:01.440] He has been in jail how long? [01:25:01.440 --> 01:25:06.440] For almost two months now, maybe no longer [01:25:06.440 --> 01:25:09.440] Okay, he's in Missouri? [01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:12.440] No, Texas [01:25:12.440 --> 01:25:14.440] Texas, okay [01:25:14.440 --> 01:25:16.440] That's why I called you [01:25:16.440 --> 01:25:19.440] Let's back up, let's get this straight down [01:25:19.440 --> 01:25:22.440] He was in a trailer [01:25:22.440 --> 01:25:25.440] Discharged the weapon [01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:32.440] How did the police or sheriff get to the traitor who called him? [01:25:32.440 --> 01:25:36.440] Okay, his wife at that time called [01:25:36.440 --> 01:25:37.440] Okay [01:25:37.440 --> 01:25:50.440] Did his wife accuse him of using the weapon essentially against her or someone with whom she was directly connected? [01:25:50.440 --> 01:25:51.440] Not that I know [01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:54.440] I have very vague information [01:25:54.440 --> 01:25:55.440] Okay, okay [01:25:55.440 --> 01:25:56.440] Let me explain [01:25:56.440 --> 01:26:02.440] What I'm looking for is domestic violence [01:26:02.440 --> 01:26:12.440] Yes, they have had issues among each other but I do not know if a police has been called for that in the past [01:26:12.440 --> 01:26:19.440] Okay, if they've had issues and he had a weapon and the weapon was discharged [01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:22.440] That's really serious business [01:26:22.440 --> 01:26:26.440] And he's been a known felon before in the past [01:26:26.440 --> 01:26:33.440] Whoa, known felon, weapon discharged, this guy's got a problem, not a great combination [01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:40.440] Yeah, I know, I knew that he really should actually let his son do time [01:26:40.440 --> 01:26:43.440] Okay, hold on, let me step back a second [01:26:43.440 --> 01:26:49.440] How close are you to this person? [01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:54.440] Okay, well, we played video games for the last nine years [01:26:54.440 --> 01:27:01.440] Okay, let me give you some wisdom of the ages [01:27:01.440 --> 01:27:12.440] I'm aged and I've had experience here and I'm going to tell you, people never tell you everything [01:27:12.440 --> 01:27:19.440] Now, I know, but this guy here, honestly, he's a straight up guy, honestly [01:27:19.440 --> 01:27:26.440] He has been straightforward with me, I've never been down there to review everything [01:27:26.440 --> 01:27:32.440] Okay, I don't want to be difficult, I don't want to be jaded [01:27:32.440 --> 01:27:37.440] But be careful what you step into [01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:47.440] Weapon discharged, potential family violence, this is an ugly business [01:27:47.440 --> 01:27:56.440] And people never tell you everything and they don't do it necessarily on purpose [01:27:56.440 --> 01:28:10.440] But if this person wants you to be on his side, he tells himself to give this guy a story that will encourage him to be on my side [01:28:10.440 --> 01:28:22.440] And when you do that, the brain tells the inner mind, bring up stuff to tell him that will make him want to be on our side [01:28:22.440 --> 01:28:31.440] So it doesn't bring up the stuff that you really need to know to understand what's going on [01:28:31.440 --> 01:28:45.440] When I hear weapon discharged, family, I get, holy crap, this gets ugly real fast [01:28:45.440 --> 01:28:48.440] He needs to tell you lots of details [01:28:48.440 --> 01:28:53.440] He's getting the information through his son, so he don't know, really [01:28:53.440 --> 01:29:03.440] Oh, okay, so this is not the person you're connected with, but someone that that person is connected with [01:29:03.440 --> 01:29:05.440] Right [01:29:05.440 --> 01:29:10.440] Oh, okay, so whatever this guy is, it's going to make a difference [01:29:10.440 --> 01:29:13.440] Okay, tell us about the son [01:29:13.440 --> 01:29:17.440] Give me a chance to tell you exactly who it is [01:29:17.440 --> 01:29:24.440] It's a military friend who's in his 70s, his son is the one who did the gun discharge [01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:25.440] Oh, okay [01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:34.440] He's just asking me if he can get a hold of like email y'all or, you know, Eddie or whatever [01:29:34.440 --> 01:29:38.440] To see what he can do to help his son [01:29:38.440 --> 01:29:46.440] Even though I explained to him his son has done what he should never have done and there's probably no chance to get him out [01:29:46.440 --> 01:29:54.440] No, maybe, maybe, maybe, but the first thing we need is the timeline [01:29:54.440 --> 01:30:00.440] And the reason I ask for a timeline and not a statement of facts is we want to know [01:30:00.440 --> 01:30:10.440] Reality TV, sugar, obesity, jet lag, the list of things that makes us dumber just keeps on growing [01:30:10.440 --> 01:30:13.440] But now researchers say we can add stress to the list [01:30:13.440 --> 01:30:16.440] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, back with details in a moment [01:30:16.440 --> 01:30:18.440] Privacy is under attack [01:30:18.440 --> 01:30:22.440] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again [01:30:22.440 --> 01:30:27.440] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too [01:30:27.440 --> 01:30:32.440] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself [01:30:32.440 --> 01:30:35.440] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to [01:30:35.440 --> 01:30:38.440] This message is brought to you by Startpage.com [01:30:38.440 --> 01:30:42.440] The private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo and Bing [01:30:42.440 --> 01:30:45.440] Start over with Startpage [01:30:45.440 --> 01:30:49.440] Are you always on the go and juggling multiple projects? 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[01:36:24.440 --> 01:36:28.440] It was never pointed at anybody [01:36:28.440 --> 01:36:32.440] He just shot up in the air because she was running her mouth [01:36:32.440 --> 01:36:35.440] That's what I get [01:36:35.440 --> 01:36:39.440] This is not good [01:36:39.440 --> 01:36:43.440] She's running her mouth, he shoots a gun in the air [01:36:43.440 --> 01:36:47.440] Well, I know, but this is all he can get from his son [01:36:47.440 --> 01:36:53.440] I already know about everything that you guys talked about on the radio show [01:36:53.440 --> 01:37:02.440] My concern is only, my involvement is to get him to go to the courthouse and pick up the documents and charges against him [01:37:02.440 --> 01:37:06.440] And I can't remember what documents he has to get in Texas [01:37:06.440 --> 01:37:10.440] And this is in Mesquite, Texas, I do believe [01:37:10.440 --> 01:37:12.440] Mesquite? [01:37:12.440 --> 01:37:15.440] Yeah, I do believe [01:37:15.440 --> 01:37:22.440] We could get Brett to go down there and involve himself in this [01:37:22.440 --> 01:37:25.440] Right, Brett? [01:37:25.440 --> 01:37:28.440] Right after you're telling me [01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:30.440] Okay, this is the vice [01:37:30.440 --> 01:37:32.440] Okay, Randy [01:37:32.440 --> 01:37:36.440] Okay, we're not trying to be difficult, I'm trying to say [01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:41.440] If you are to be of help to these guys [01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:48.440] They don't necessarily understand how to protect themselves [01:37:48.440 --> 01:37:56.440] You are a third-party party, you're outside the circumstance, you can be of great benefit to them [01:37:56.440 --> 01:38:05.440] I'm not accusing them of lying to you, prefabricating, people tend to tell what seems to be best for them [01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:11.440] If you're to be of great assistance to them, you have to be the arbitrator [01:38:11.440 --> 01:38:19.440] You have to be the anchor to bring them back to good judgment [01:38:19.440 --> 01:38:26.440] People in emotional circumstances sometimes act emotionally [01:38:26.440 --> 01:38:34.440] And most of the time when you act emotionally in intense circumstances, it's a bad idea [01:38:34.440 --> 01:38:35.440] Right [01:38:35.440 --> 01:38:38.440] And you could be their anchor [01:38:38.440 --> 01:38:44.440] You ask them to tell you what happened and then they start telling you and you say, wait a minute, wait a minute [01:38:44.440 --> 01:38:47.440] You left this out, you left that out [01:38:47.440 --> 01:38:48.440] Right [01:38:48.440 --> 01:39:02.440] It allows them to kind of reintegrate what really went on and helps them to find more, a more equitable outcome [01:39:02.440 --> 01:39:06.440] My concern is that you get caught up in what they're telling you [01:39:06.440 --> 01:39:11.440] And you believe that what they're telling you is all exactly what happened [01:39:11.440 --> 01:39:18.440] Most of the part time when someone's in a really emotionally charged situation, they don't know what happened [01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:21.440] They only know how they responded to what happened [01:39:21.440 --> 01:39:28.440] And it's your job to push them beyond their emotional responses [01:39:28.440 --> 01:39:34.440] And when I do this, you'll hear me on the show ask for a timeline [01:39:34.440 --> 01:39:35.440] I know [01:39:35.440 --> 01:39:39.440] Timeline is a trick [01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:47.440] It's to get them to step outside the emotional content and go back to the details [01:39:47.440 --> 01:39:56.440] So you want to ask them questions about things that they don't think are important [01:39:56.440 --> 01:39:59.440] And they may not be important, it doesn't matter [01:39:59.440 --> 01:40:05.440] But what that does to them when they're in a highly charged emotional circumstance [01:40:05.440 --> 01:40:11.440] And you ask them a question that they have no idea why you're asking this question [01:40:11.440 --> 01:40:15.440] That tends to act as a pattern interruption [01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:19.440] They get into the emotional circumstance [01:40:19.440 --> 01:40:24.440] And then you ask them an oddball question and they say, what? [01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:31.440] And they stop and they have to back out and examine it from a somewhat different perspective [01:40:31.440 --> 01:40:33.440] Does that make sense? [01:40:33.440 --> 01:40:34.440] Yes [01:40:34.440 --> 01:40:36.440] I understand, Randy [01:40:36.440 --> 01:40:38.440] Believe me, I have thought this through [01:40:38.440 --> 01:40:45.440] That's why I waited over a month before I even called in to try to figure out the best route to go [01:40:45.440 --> 01:40:51.440] The documents that you're looking for, they need to go to the court clerk [01:40:51.440 --> 01:40:58.440] Wherever the court is that he's got some issues in whatever court, go to that court clerk [01:40:58.440 --> 01:41:05.440] If it's Mesquite City or if it's a county thing, whatever, he needs to go to that court clerk [01:41:05.440 --> 01:41:08.440] And ask to see the record [01:41:08.440 --> 01:41:10.440] Sometimes they call it the file [01:41:10.440 --> 01:41:16.440] But it's just a folder they've got for everything that's been put into that particular case [01:41:16.440 --> 01:41:22.440] And if he hasn't filed anything, then the only thing that's in there is going to be from the prosecutor, the opposing counsel [01:41:22.440 --> 01:41:30.440] So they can stand right there at the counter and they'll just push it across and you just look at it [01:41:30.440 --> 01:41:34.440] Or you see in there, hey, there's no charging instrument in here [01:41:34.440 --> 01:41:40.440] You don't need to tell them that, you just say, will you please give me a certified copy of this record? [01:41:40.440 --> 01:41:48.440] They'll charge you a buck for a page and you'll have your certified copy [01:41:48.440 --> 01:41:53.440] That way as of such and such a date, there was no charging instrument in there [01:41:53.440 --> 01:42:01.440] And they'll tack on a little page at the end that says this is a true, accurate, and complete copy of the record [01:42:01.440 --> 01:42:05.440] And they'll sign it or stamp it, the court clerk will [01:42:05.440 --> 01:42:11.440] That gives you a snapshot of what are the charges [01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:15.440] You can go from there, go ahead [01:42:15.440 --> 01:42:23.440] We're not saying that these guys are misrepresenting the truth to you [01:42:23.440 --> 01:42:29.440] They experience what occurred from their perspective [01:42:29.440 --> 01:42:34.440] From the emotional content of the moment as it related to them [01:42:34.440 --> 01:42:38.440] They don't necessarily know what really happened [01:42:38.440 --> 01:42:45.440] And if you listen to the show a lot, you'll see sometimes we take people and re-walk them back through their circumstances [01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:51.440] And they come up with insights and understandings that they weren't able to come up with on their own [01:42:51.440 --> 01:42:59.440] Because they didn't have a third party to stick their finger in the middle of their passion [01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:05.440] And break it apart so they could go back to what really happened [01:43:05.440 --> 01:43:11.440] It may be that you're not necessarily looking for specific details [01:43:11.440 --> 01:43:20.440] But you're working to help this other person go inside and find out what really happened [01:43:20.440 --> 01:43:23.440] I hope this makes sense [01:43:23.440 --> 01:43:29.440] You're concerning me because this sounds like it's really serious [01:43:29.440 --> 01:43:38.440] Yes, and Randy, I already know, he's admit, he don't trust what his son has told him [01:43:38.440 --> 01:43:43.440] But I'm just doing this to get the record or file, like I said [01:43:43.440 --> 01:43:48.440] And give him a head start of what really is being brought against him [01:43:48.440 --> 01:43:51.440] Okay, hang on, we've got ten seconds [01:43:51.440 --> 01:43:54.440] So if you want the record, we'll address that when we come back [01:43:54.440 --> 01:44:00.440] Randy Cohen, Brett Fountain, Lula La Radio, we'll be right back [01:44:00.440 --> 01:44:01.440] Dang, cookies [01:44:01.440 --> 01:44:03.440] Cookies? 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[01:45:04.440 --> 01:45:15.440] Win your case without an attorney with Jurisdictionary, the affordable, easy to understand, 4-CD course that will show you how in 24 hours, step by step [01:45:15.440 --> 01:45:19.440] If you have a lawyer, know what your lawyer should be doing [01:45:19.440 --> 01:45:23.440] If you don't have a lawyer, know what you should do for yourself [01:45:23.440 --> 01:45:28.440] Thousands have won with our step-by-step course and now you can, too [01:45:28.440 --> 01:45:34.440] Jurisdictionary was created by a licensed attorney with 22 years of case-winning experience [01:45:34.440 --> 01:45:43.440] Even if you're not in a lawsuit, you can learn what everyone should understand about the principles and practices that control our American courts [01:45:43.440 --> 01:45:52.440] You'll receive our audio classroom, video seminar, tutorials, forms for civil cases, pro se tactics, and much more [01:45:52.440 --> 01:46:14.440] Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner or call toll-free, 866-LAW-EZ [01:46:22.440 --> 01:46:27.440] Some things in this world I will never understand [01:46:27.440 --> 01:46:31.440] Some things I realize foolish [01:46:31.440 --> 01:46:35.440] Somebody's gonna police that policeman [01:46:35.440 --> 01:46:39.440] Somebody's gonna police the police [01:46:39.440 --> 01:46:44.440] There's always a room at the top of the hill [01:46:44.440 --> 01:46:49.440] I hear things are grave-mine and it's lonely there, too [01:46:49.440 --> 01:46:53.440] They're wishing it was more than I position the bill [01:46:53.440 --> 01:46:57.440] They know that if they don't do it, somebody will [01:46:57.440 --> 01:47:01.440] Some things in this world I will never understand [01:47:01.440 --> 01:47:05.440] Some things I realize foolish [01:47:05.440 --> 01:47:10.440] Somebody's gonna police that policeman [01:47:10.440 --> 01:47:13.440] Somebody's gonna police the police [01:47:13.440 --> 01:47:16.440] I know they will [01:47:16.440 --> 01:47:19.440] Yeah, they're gonna put the bill [01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:22.440] Because I see so much in God's detail [01:47:22.440 --> 01:47:24.440] I know they will [01:47:24.440 --> 01:47:26.440] I'll never fail to tip back that scale [01:47:26.440 --> 01:47:28.440] I know they will [01:47:28.440 --> 01:47:31.440] I'll never fail to tip back that scale [01:47:31.440 --> 01:47:33.440] I know they will [01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:42.440] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're into our last segment [01:47:42.440 --> 01:47:49.440] Ted, I didn't take you because you're going to be complex [01:47:49.440 --> 01:47:51.440] and I want to give you time [01:47:51.440 --> 01:47:56.440] If you will call back tomorrow night, I will take you ahead of everyone else [01:47:56.440 --> 01:48:00.440] because I definitely want to hear what's going on with you [01:48:00.440 --> 01:48:04.440] Dwayne in Texas, I apologize for not getting to you [01:48:04.440 --> 01:48:09.440] but if you'll call back tomorrow night, I'll put you right after Ted [01:48:09.440 --> 01:48:16.440] We're talking to Ellis, and this is Stephen Ellis, I guess it's Stephen [01:48:16.440 --> 01:48:27.440] and I'm concerned here because we have someone who's trying to help a friend who's trying to help his son [01:48:27.440 --> 01:48:32.440] So this is a double disassociation [01:48:32.440 --> 01:48:39.440] and we can be very powerful at this level of disassociation [01:48:39.440 --> 01:48:53.440] so long as we don't get drawn in to believe everything we're hearing [01:48:53.440 --> 01:48:59.440] Yes, some kind of downward spiral that sucks up all your time until eventually you find out what the truth is [01:48:59.440 --> 01:49:04.440] Yes, seduced is the word I was looking for [01:49:04.440 --> 01:49:11.440] Stephen, you're trying to help a friend and your friend is trying to help his son [01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:18.440] so you're in a position to do what we call meta-comments [01:49:18.440 --> 01:49:24.440] you can keep outside the emotion and the pathos of things [01:49:24.440 --> 01:49:34.440] and talk to the father in a way to get him to ask penetrating questions of the son [01:49:34.440 --> 01:49:40.440] that aren't necessarily designed to extract information [01:49:40.440 --> 01:49:50.440] but to force the individual to face facts and issues that they may not want to face [01:49:50.440 --> 01:49:53.440] Does that make sense Stephen? [01:49:53.440 --> 01:49:58.440] I know exactly what you mean by it [01:49:58.440 --> 01:50:06.440] and I do not want to have my good friend upset with me when he has to face the truth about the situation [01:50:06.440 --> 01:50:08.440] Okay, I have a question for you [01:50:08.440 --> 01:50:10.440] Be very cautious about it [01:50:10.440 --> 01:50:14.440] How good a friend is he? [01:50:14.440 --> 01:50:19.440] Actually, I don't know him personally [01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:23.440] You're talking about not the son but the friend [01:50:23.440 --> 01:50:28.440] Are you willing to have him angry at you for the rest of his life [01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:36.440] by doing what you in your heart believe is the best thing for him? [01:50:36.440 --> 01:50:41.440] If it is for the best thing for him at his age, yeah, absolutely [01:50:41.440 --> 01:50:45.440] I was going to say if you said no, then get the hell away from it [01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:49.440] I have people that won't talk to me anymore [01:50:49.440 --> 01:50:53.440] They're angry at me and think I'm a no good SOB [01:50:53.440 --> 01:50:55.440] but I have no problem with that [01:50:55.440 --> 01:51:03.440] because I did what in my heart I believed was right and best for them whether they liked me or not [01:51:03.440 --> 01:51:07.440] If you are willing to take that position to help this guy [01:51:07.440 --> 01:51:10.440] you are probably the best friend he has [01:51:10.440 --> 01:51:14.440] and he doesn't know it and it doesn't matter if he knows it [01:51:14.440 --> 01:51:16.440] That's what he felt for me about the whole situation [01:51:16.440 --> 01:51:20.440] and nobody else he knew for a lot longer time [01:51:20.440 --> 01:51:25.440] Yeah, and these are the kind of friends that are best [01:51:25.440 --> 01:51:29.440] The ones that don't need acclamation, that don't need verification [01:51:29.440 --> 01:51:33.440] that will do the best thing for the right reason [01:51:33.440 --> 01:51:36.440] regardless of the consequences [01:51:36.440 --> 01:51:40.440] and that's what I have been addressing this whole time [01:51:40.440 --> 01:51:46.440] The son has issues and the father is trying to help the son with these issues [01:51:46.440 --> 01:51:50.440] and you're trying to help the father help the son with these issues [01:51:50.440 --> 01:51:52.440] Did I get this right? [01:51:52.440 --> 01:51:56.440] And that son has been issues for that father for a long time [01:51:56.440 --> 01:51:59.440] which makes it even worse for him [01:51:59.440 --> 01:52:05.440] Yeah, how does the son and father, how do they get along? [01:52:05.440 --> 01:52:09.440] The last couple of years they were getting along [01:52:09.440 --> 01:52:11.440] That's all I know [01:52:11.440 --> 01:52:15.440] I don't know any previous history because of what he told me about his troubles [01:52:15.440 --> 01:52:16.440] That's all I know [01:52:16.440 --> 01:52:20.440] How old is the son? [01:52:20.440 --> 01:52:25.440] I do believe he's in his fifties [01:52:25.440 --> 01:52:28.440] Wait, I missed that, say that again [01:52:28.440 --> 01:52:33.440] I do believe he is in his fifties [01:52:33.440 --> 01:52:36.440] The son is in his fifties? [01:52:36.440 --> 01:52:41.440] The father is an old military man, Navy SEAL [01:52:41.440 --> 01:52:45.440] He's 76 years old [01:52:45.440 --> 01:52:49.440] Hey, hey, hey, hey, that's not so old [01:52:49.440 --> 01:52:51.440] I'm just telling you, you know [01:52:51.440 --> 01:52:59.440] Okay, okay, okay, maybe I'm prejudiced because I got dirt in my front yard that's not as old as I am [01:52:59.440 --> 01:53:04.440] Okay, so the father is a Navy SEAL [01:53:04.440 --> 01:53:05.440] Yeah [01:53:05.440 --> 01:53:08.440] He may be still with the military [01:53:08.440 --> 01:53:14.440] Yeah, okay, and I'm a veteran so I appreciate, especially made Navy SEALs [01:53:14.440 --> 01:53:17.440] Special Forces Disguiser [01:53:17.440 --> 01:53:20.440] Different breed [01:53:20.440 --> 01:53:21.440] Yeah [01:53:21.440 --> 01:53:23.440] The son is in his fifties [01:53:23.440 --> 01:53:27.440] Randy, he has been straightforward with everything he knows [01:53:27.440 --> 01:53:29.440] which he don't know much and nothing [01:53:29.440 --> 01:53:32.440] So I'm trying to guide him to find out the information [01:53:32.440 --> 01:53:37.440] and give him an idea of what he can do about the situation [01:53:37.440 --> 01:53:38.440] Okay [01:53:38.440 --> 01:53:41.440] And then guide him to, hey, this, you know, your son screwed up [01:53:41.440 --> 01:53:46.440] You know, there's really no way you can fight it because of what he's done [01:53:46.440 --> 01:53:51.440] But do it in a way where he don't get too much emotions tied into it [01:53:51.440 --> 01:53:56.440] Okay, okay, he's a SEAL, he knows how to do this [01:53:56.440 --> 01:53:57.440] Yeah [01:53:57.440 --> 01:54:00.440] He doesn't have to, his son doesn't always have to be right [01:54:00.440 --> 01:54:06.440] His son can screw up, but the father still is on his side [01:54:06.440 --> 01:54:13.440] And he's a SEAL, he can help his son [01:54:13.440 --> 01:54:17.440] But first he has to extract good information [01:54:17.440 --> 01:54:21.440] Does the son have a drug issue? [01:54:21.440 --> 01:54:24.440] I do believe so [01:54:24.440 --> 01:54:27.440] Oh, that changes everything [01:54:27.440 --> 01:54:31.440] I know, he went through rehab, he has not relapsed as far as I know [01:54:31.440 --> 01:54:33.440] So like I said, I'm getting it through him [01:54:33.440 --> 01:54:37.440] But he don't get the creeps from his son, I'm pretty sure he doesn't [01:54:37.440 --> 01:54:38.440] Right [01:54:38.440 --> 01:54:40.440] So I'm very confident in that part [01:54:40.440 --> 01:54:50.440] So probably the best you can do for this guy is to forget his son for now [01:54:50.440 --> 01:54:59.440] And help this guy to understand that his son is not necessarily always rational [01:54:59.440 --> 01:55:08.440] And ask him if he could look at his son objectively [01:55:08.440 --> 01:55:16.440] If the son pulled a weapon on a strange spouse and discharged the weapon [01:55:16.440 --> 01:55:19.440] That is a really, really big deal [01:55:19.440 --> 01:55:27.440] This guy's a Navy SEAL, he understands what it's like to be on the sharp end of those things [01:55:27.440 --> 01:55:29.440] You know, I don't own a weapon [01:55:29.440 --> 01:55:37.440] When you say a strange spouse, do you mean one that don't live with him? [01:55:37.440 --> 01:55:40.440] Wait, say that again [01:55:40.440 --> 01:55:45.440] When you say a strange spouse, the lady lives with him [01:55:45.440 --> 01:55:48.440] Is that what you mean as a strange? [01:55:48.440 --> 01:55:52.440] No, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're together or not together [01:55:52.440 --> 01:55:55.440] Just that they're at odds with each other [01:55:55.440 --> 01:55:58.440] Okay, got it [01:55:58.440 --> 01:56:07.440] If the son has a drug issue, unfortunately that is very difficult [01:56:07.440 --> 01:56:14.440] But he has a father who's, if he's an ex-SEAL, he has a level of sophistication [01:56:14.440 --> 01:56:16.440] That he may be able to help his son [01:56:16.440 --> 01:56:21.440] You need to stop focusing on the son, focus on the father [01:56:21.440 --> 01:56:23.440] Right [01:56:23.440 --> 01:56:33.440] Because whatever happens to the father, the son, the father's going to blame himself for it [01:56:33.440 --> 01:56:42.440] If you can help the father get himself centered, the father will help the son [01:56:42.440 --> 01:56:49.440] What does the father feel? Does he blame himself for his son's behavior? [01:56:49.440 --> 01:56:52.440] Nope, not one least bit [01:56:52.440 --> 01:57:00.440] He knows that he is a screw up, but he's trying to get him out if possible [01:57:00.440 --> 01:57:05.440] Because he hasn't had the opportunity to be even heard about the case [01:57:05.440 --> 01:57:08.440] What really happened? [01:57:08.440 --> 01:57:13.440] Okay, I'm going to go back to what I suggest in every case [01:57:13.440 --> 01:57:24.440] Ask your friend to ask the son if he can put together a timeline [01:57:24.440 --> 01:57:30.440] A timeline is incredibly, it sounds easy, but it's incredibly difficult to produce [01:57:30.440 --> 01:57:36.440] And you forget a lot of things in between [01:57:36.440 --> 01:57:38.440] Yeah, that's what we do [01:57:38.440 --> 01:57:43.440] So we create a timeline, and then we go back two days later and look at it again [01:57:43.440 --> 01:57:48.440] We start filling in pieces, and then we go back a couple days later and fill in pieces [01:57:48.440 --> 01:57:59.440] If the son has lied to him, the lies will just leap out from the timeline [01:57:59.440 --> 01:58:07.440] And if the son cannot create an effective timeline, his father's not going to be able to help him [01:58:07.440 --> 01:58:10.440] Pretty much nobody would, not even himself [01:58:10.440 --> 01:58:13.440] You've got to have good notes of what happened and when [01:58:13.440 --> 01:58:16.440] You have to be able to be honest with yourself [01:58:16.440 --> 01:58:22.440] If this guy can't, his father's fighting a battle he can't win [01:58:22.440 --> 01:58:26.440] Right, so my quick question before you end [01:58:26.440 --> 01:58:29.440] Should I have him go ahead and get that record certified copy? [01:58:29.440 --> 01:58:34.440] Absolutely, you don't know anything until you've seen the record [01:58:34.440 --> 01:58:35.440] Right [01:58:35.440 --> 01:58:38.440] We are out of time, get the record, call us in tomorrow night [01:58:38.440 --> 01:58:42.440] I'd like to explore this place, this is an interesting conundrum [01:58:42.440 --> 01:58:44.440] Thank you all for listening [01:58:44.440 --> 01:58:50.440] We'll be back tomorrow night, thank you all for listening, good night [01:58:50.440 --> 01:58:57.440] Bibles for America is offering absolutely free a unique study Bible called the New Testament Recovery Version [01:58:57.440 --> 01:59:04.440] The New Testament Recovery Version has over 9,000 footnotes that explain what the Bible says verse by verse [01:59:04.440 --> 01:59:08.440] Helping you to know God and to know the meaning of life [01:59:08.440 --> 01:59:11.440] Order your free copy today from Bibles for America [01:59:11.440 --> 01:59:20.440] Call us toll free at 888-551-0102 or visit us online at bfa.org [01:59:20.440 --> 01:59:25.440] This translation is highly accurate and it comes with over 13,000 cross references [01:59:25.440 --> 01:59:30.440] Plus charts and maps and an outline for every book of the Bible [01:59:30.440 --> 01:59:32.440] This is truly a Bible you can understand [01:59:32.440 --> 01:59:35.440] To get your free copy of the New Testament Recovery Version [01:59:35.440 --> 01:59:49.440] Call us toll free at 888-551-0102, that's 888-551-0102 or visit us online at bfa.org [01:59:49.440 --> 02:00:05.440] You're listening to the Logos Radio Network at logosradionetwork.com