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[00:07.520 --> 00:12.680]  Markets for Wednesday, the 8th of March, 2017, are currently trading with gold at $1,208.74
[00:12.680 --> 00:20.360]  an ounce, silver at $17.25 an ounce, Texas crude at $53.14 a barrel, and Bitcoin is still
[00:20.360 --> 00:26.720]  rising sitting at about 1,195 U.S. currency.
[00:26.720 --> 00:32.680]  Today in history, the year 1775, an anonymous writer thought to be Thomas Paine by many
[00:32.680 --> 00:37.280]  publishes African Slavery in America, the first article in the American Colonies calling
[00:37.280 --> 00:44.400]  for the emancipation of slaves in the abolition of slavery today in history.
[00:44.400 --> 00:48.720]  In recent news, after releasing and posting a mother load of thousands of documents detailing
[00:48.720 --> 00:53.760]  CIA hacking tools Tuesday, WikiLeaks has again become the source of fear and hysteria for
[00:53.760 --> 00:57.780]  political power structures as the FBI has begun preparing for a major whistleblower
[00:57.780 --> 01:02.920]  hunt to determine who provided the materials on the procedures that the CIA uses in order
[01:02.920 --> 01:05.520]  to spy on espionage targets.
[01:05.520 --> 01:10.520]  Jill Brenner, former head of the U.S. Counterintelligence at the Office and Director of National Intelligence,
[01:10.520 --> 01:14.480]  stated that anybody who thinks that Manning and Snowden problems were one-offs is just
[01:14.480 --> 01:15.480]  dead wrong.
[01:15.480 --> 01:18.560]  Ben Franklin said three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.
[01:18.560 --> 01:22.360]  If secrets are shared on systems in which thousands of people have access to them, they
[01:22.360 --> 01:24.440]  may really not be a secret anymore.
[01:24.440 --> 01:28.080]  This problem is not going away, and it's a condition of our existence.
[01:28.080 --> 01:31.680]  WikiLeaks said announcing the first release of hacking tools used by the CIA to break
[01:31.680 --> 01:36.200]  into phones, communication apps, GPS-enabled smart cars, and other electronic devices that
[01:36.200 --> 01:39.720]  quote, this extraordinary collection which amounts to more than several hundred million
[01:39.720 --> 01:44.360]  lines of code gives its possessors the entire hacking capacity of the CIA.
[01:44.360 --> 01:48.920]  The archive appears to have been circulated among former U.S. government hackers and contractors
[01:48.920 --> 01:53.280]  in an unauthorized manner, one of whom has provided WikiLeaks with the portions of the
[01:53.280 --> 01:54.280]  archive.
[01:54.280 --> 01:58.400]  Edward Snowden gave his two cents regarding the alleged CIA documents, tweeting, what
[01:58.400 --> 02:01.520]  WikiLeaks has here is genuinely a big deal.
[02:01.520 --> 02:07.600]  Looks authentic.
[02:07.600 --> 02:11.720]  Today is the National Day Without a Woman, in sync with International Women's Day, observed
[02:11.720 --> 02:16.840]  first on February 28, 1909 in New York City and organized by the Socialist Party of America.
[02:16.840 --> 02:21.840]  In short, today is a call for a general strike for women to participate in, hence a Day
[02:21.840 --> 02:23.240]  Without a Woman.
[02:23.240 --> 02:27.280]  Those who can't skip work for the day are urged to participate by wearing red, a color
[02:27.280 --> 02:30.920]  that symbolizes war, revolution, sacrifice, and love.
[02:30.920 --> 02:35.160]  Female workers' rights, sexism, access to tax-funded health care and abortion, and the
[02:35.160 --> 02:39.560]  Trump administration are the main issues Socialist groups are hoping to address this International
[02:39.560 --> 02:40.560]  Women's Day.
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[02:52.560 --> 03:11.560]  This is Rick Roady with the Lowdown for March 8, 2017.
[03:11.560 --> 03:34.760]  Okay, howdy, howdy, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue La Radio, on this, the
[03:34.760 --> 03:39.200]  ninth day of March 2017.
[03:39.200 --> 03:43.200]  We have the phone lines open, we'll have them open all night, and we do have our fundraiser
[03:43.200 --> 03:49.960]  going, so please go to Logos Radio Network and check out our gun giveaway, we're giving
[03:49.960 --> 03:53.720]  away an AR-15 this year.
[03:53.720 --> 03:59.240]  And look at some of the other special deals we've got on there, I'm selling my e-book,
[03:59.240 --> 04:06.200]  and if you buy the e-book, it's $100 and you get four chances toward the gun giveaway.
[04:06.200 --> 04:21.240]  We've also got Eddie's Traffic Seminar, and Dr., lost my place, Frederick, Deborah, what's
[04:21.240 --> 04:22.240]  his last name?
[04:22.240 --> 04:32.440]  I lost his last name, Graves, Dr. Frederick Graves, he'll choke me for that.
[04:32.440 --> 04:43.080]  He's got a course on, I'm having one of my senior moments, Juris Dictionary, brain dead,
[04:43.080 --> 04:52.560]  okay, okay, Juris Dictionary, and if you're going to try to fight for your rights, first
[04:52.560 --> 04:57.760]  thing you need to do is get Juris Dictionary and go through it.
[04:57.760 --> 05:05.720]  Once you've been through Juris Dictionary, now Dr. Graves is, he's a standard lawyer
[05:05.720 --> 05:13.680]  and he's going to talk to you about laws the way lawyers talk to the public about law.
[05:13.680 --> 05:20.240]  When you're done with Dr. Graves' Juris Dictionary, then get my e-book.
[05:20.240 --> 05:23.880]  I'm going to talk about law a whole different way.
[05:23.880 --> 05:31.200]  I'm going to talk about law, not the way it's supposed to work, but the way it really works
[05:31.200 --> 05:34.840]  for you and I and ordinary people.
[05:34.840 --> 05:42.120]  It will give you a whole different perspective on how to deal with law.
[05:42.120 --> 05:51.000]  And Eddie's Traffic Course, Traffic Seminar, if you have a ticket, the traffic courts are
[05:51.000 --> 05:52.000]  so corrupt.
[05:52.000 --> 05:58.040]  They don't care what the law is, they're just there to collect money.
[05:58.040 --> 06:04.280]  At the end of the day, if you and I and a whole bunch of us can just stomp all over
[06:04.280 --> 06:12.160]  these guys and cost them more money than they make, they're going to have to change their
[06:12.160 --> 06:13.160]  procedures.
[06:13.160 --> 06:18.080]  So go look at those, especially those three.
[06:18.080 --> 06:25.080]  Those will put you in a position such that when those lights come on behind you, you'll
[06:25.080 --> 06:26.480]  do like Eddie and I do.
[06:26.480 --> 06:34.080]  We look up in the rear view mirror and we think, go ahead, Bubba, take your best shot.
[06:34.080 --> 06:36.680]  We see how this works out for you.
[06:36.680 --> 06:42.680]  So okay, our phone lines are lighting up already, so we're going to start out by going to Jeff
[06:42.680 --> 06:43.680]  in Mississippi.
[06:43.680 --> 06:44.680]  Hello, Jeff.
[06:44.680 --> 06:49.360]  Hey, Randy, thanks for having me on.
[06:49.360 --> 06:51.200]  Glad to have you.
[06:51.200 --> 06:54.680]  What do you have for us today?
[06:54.680 --> 07:02.360]  I am going to go ahead and launch out with another Title 42 lawsuit.
[07:02.360 --> 07:07.080]  Okay, explain to everybody, bring everybody up to speed on where you're at on the last
[07:07.080 --> 07:08.080]  one.
[07:08.080 --> 07:22.960]  Well, on the last one of them, the federal district court threw out my case and really
[07:22.960 --> 07:28.800]  didn't either, basically didn't give a reason or they basically just lied.
[07:28.800 --> 07:34.640]  I had a really good case and they just said that I failed to state a claim and that was
[07:34.640 --> 07:37.640]  it.
[07:37.640 --> 07:43.080]  So I sent that case to the court of appeals and the court of appeals just simply wrote
[07:43.080 --> 07:49.360]  back saying that they agreed with the district court and that's it, I lose my case.
[07:49.360 --> 08:01.520]  So now I'm going to file a third, Title 42, sorry, and I'm going to do it.
[08:01.520 --> 08:08.860]  When I was indicted, the grand jury foreman signed the indictment, but then later I found
[08:08.860 --> 08:17.040]  out there were no transcripts from the grand jury and there's no police report.
[08:17.040 --> 08:23.460]  So I deduced from there that the indictment's got to be a fake, that my case was probably
[08:23.460 --> 08:28.440]  never taken to the grand jury, they just simply forged a document.
[08:28.440 --> 08:34.480]  And so I would like to go ahead and put that in as a 42.
[08:34.480 --> 08:42.360]  And what I did was I chose the simplest, easiest way that I possibly could because I want to
[08:42.360 --> 08:46.280]  have a real simple case that I can study from.
[08:46.280 --> 08:51.160]  And the reason I say that is because on my other two cases, I kind of went hog wild,
[08:51.160 --> 08:56.040]  I listed a lot of parties, I listed a lot of causes of action, and the next thing I
[08:56.040 --> 09:03.120]  know I got confused and it was like getting stuck in a beehive.
[09:03.120 --> 09:07.840]  And so they were able to circle me and confuse me and this time I just want to go for something
[09:07.840 --> 09:08.840]  real simple.
[09:08.840 --> 09:15.800]  The foreman forged the indictment, I'm only going to list one party and that's all I want
[09:15.800 --> 09:16.800]  to do.
[09:16.800 --> 09:23.920]  Okay, well if you do that, then you get to do discovery to determine the grand jury member's
[09:23.920 --> 09:34.160]  names and discovery to determine whether or not they actually voted on this issue.
[09:34.160 --> 09:49.480]  Also, did you do a request for the court reporter for the grand jury or actually to the accountant,
[09:49.480 --> 09:56.840]  the comptroller for the county, whatever the person is who pays all the bills, you want
[09:56.840 --> 10:04.760]  to see the voucher for the court reporter for the day of this indictment?
[10:04.760 --> 10:05.760]  I did.
[10:05.760 --> 10:15.240]  I sent a request to the comptroller of currency and I listed it as the voucher for the grand
[10:15.240 --> 10:16.240]  jury.
[10:16.240 --> 10:19.480]  Should I have said, should I have labeled it something else?
[10:19.480 --> 10:25.520]  Yes, you need that, for the voucher for the grand jury court reporter.
[10:25.520 --> 10:30.840]  Oh, okay, I did not put that, I just said the voucher for the grand jury.
[10:30.840 --> 10:37.520]  Okay, did they show that they paid the grand jury for appearance on that day?
[10:37.520 --> 10:42.280]  No, they never responded, I never got a response.
[10:42.280 --> 10:50.320]  Did you file criminally against them for that?
[10:50.320 --> 11:04.160]  I filed a criminal complaint with the state attorney, yeah, the prosecuting attorney for
[11:04.160 --> 11:08.320]  the state, I forgot what the name of this, I'm having one of those nights too and I never
[11:08.320 --> 11:10.840]  got a response back on that either.
[11:10.840 --> 11:18.280]  Okay, when I'm doing those, I'm working on one right now, I walk them all the way up.
[11:18.280 --> 11:27.160]  I've recently filed against federal judge McBride with the local FBI, the special agent
[11:27.160 --> 11:29.840]  in charge in Dallas.
[11:29.840 --> 11:37.240]  He responded by having an intake person call me and ask me what I wanted them to do and
[11:37.240 --> 11:41.000]  I told them I wanted them to do what the law commanded them to do but wasn't going to tell
[11:41.000 --> 11:48.280]  them what it was and I just sent a letter to the attorney general asking for a copy
[11:48.280 --> 11:55.000]  of the notice they received from this SAC on the criminal charge against the federal
[11:55.000 --> 11:59.840]  judge under a 28 U.S. Code 535.
[11:59.840 --> 12:06.200]  So we follow the procedures, but okay, I understand you can get more than you can get to, but
[12:06.200 --> 12:18.720]  if you're going to file against and go sue the state claiming that the original indictment
[12:18.720 --> 12:27.360]  was void and you could do that at any time, then you get to subpoena grand jury records.
[12:27.360 --> 12:28.360]  Okay.
[12:28.360 --> 12:36.360]  Now, the only thing that's really secret in grand juries is deliberations.
[12:36.360 --> 12:42.360]  The voting tally cannot be secret, otherwise there's no way to validate that there was
[12:42.360 --> 12:48.840]  actually a grand jury vote, so you can certainly ask for a voting tally.
[12:48.840 --> 12:56.880]  Voting tally doesn't tell you who voted what, but it does give a number.
[12:56.880 --> 13:02.440]  And have you looked at this one, this Mississippi law, right?
[13:02.440 --> 13:03.440]  Yes.
[13:03.440 --> 13:13.960]  Have you looked at the requirements for how an indictment is reported to the court?
[13:13.960 --> 13:17.040]  Yes, I have.
[13:17.040 --> 13:19.240]  What does it say?
[13:19.240 --> 13:30.520]  Well, it says that number one, all proceedings from the grand jury are recorded electronically.
[13:30.520 --> 13:36.480]  Have you requested the, okay, well that didn't get to the issue.
[13:36.480 --> 13:37.480]  Okay.
[13:37.480 --> 13:38.480]  That's all I remember.
[13:38.480 --> 13:39.480]  Oh, wait.
[13:39.480 --> 13:40.480]  Okay.
[13:40.480 --> 13:41.480]  That changes things.
[13:41.480 --> 13:50.160]  There is no court reporter.
[13:50.160 --> 13:53.920]  I'm thinking, my head hurts.
[13:53.920 --> 14:01.680]  There has to be a procedure for reporting the facts of a true bill to the court.
[14:01.680 --> 14:07.600]  Well, I remember that it says something about, and I don't have that law in front of me,
[14:07.600 --> 14:15.440]  that the grand jury foreman hands over the deliberations to the clerk of the court.
[14:15.440 --> 14:20.640]  Does it require a quorum of the grand jury present?
[14:20.640 --> 14:21.640]  I don't remember.
[14:21.640 --> 14:23.120]  It does in Texas.
[14:23.120 --> 14:30.480]  So, a good chance it does to make sure that the prosecutor and the foreman don't get together
[14:30.480 --> 14:38.120]  and just start cranking out true bills without the grand jury knowing anything about it.
[14:38.120 --> 14:41.200]  So what do you look for in the law?
[14:41.200 --> 14:42.840]  Pardon me?
[14:42.840 --> 14:46.160]  What should I look for in the law then when I reread it?
[14:46.160 --> 14:52.960]  Reread it to look for how the true bill is presented to the court.
[14:52.960 --> 14:56.600]  In Texas, it's right the last statute.
[14:56.600 --> 15:04.040]  It's 21-22, 21-21 or 21-22, it's right there at the end.
[15:04.040 --> 15:05.040]  All right.
[15:05.040 --> 15:10.840]  It says the foreman with the quorum of the grand jury present shall come before the court
[15:10.840 --> 15:17.520]  or the clerk and give notice of a true bill and the clerk shall make notes in the minutes
[15:17.520 --> 15:18.520]  of the court.
[15:18.520 --> 15:22.200]  Look to see what it says in Mississippi.
[15:22.200 --> 15:28.640]  There has to be a prescribed way of doing that and that's what you want to look for.
[15:28.640 --> 15:38.520]  And then you want to subpoena all of the grand jury member's names because you want to call
[15:38.520 --> 15:47.600]  them as witnesses and ask them on the stand if they examined into this accusation and
[15:47.600 --> 15:48.600]  when.
[15:48.600 --> 15:49.600]  Okay.
[15:49.600 --> 15:50.600]  Got it.
[15:50.600 --> 15:55.600]  Because they may say, we don't know what you're talking about.
[15:55.600 --> 15:56.600]  Never heard of this.
[15:56.600 --> 16:02.640]  And even if they have and forgot, all you need is one of them say, I never heard of
[16:02.640 --> 16:05.680]  this thing and these guys got a problem.
[16:05.680 --> 16:06.680]  Okay.
[16:06.680 --> 16:07.680]  Got it.
[16:07.680 --> 16:18.120]  And you can request the recording of the grand jury proceedings to be examined in camera.
[16:18.120 --> 16:21.040]  In camera means in private by the court.
[16:21.040 --> 16:22.520]  All right.
[16:22.520 --> 16:27.920]  I've already written a request to the clerk of the court for the transcripts and the clerk
[16:27.920 --> 16:31.680]  wrote back and said there are no transcripts.
[16:31.680 --> 16:34.120]  That may be right if it's electronically recorded.
[16:34.120 --> 16:39.160]  So you can ask for a copy of the recording and they're not going to give it to you because
[16:39.160 --> 16:40.160]  it's private.
[16:40.160 --> 16:41.160]  Hang on.
[16:41.160 --> 16:42.160]  About to go to break.
[16:42.160 --> 16:45.400]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, and Wheel of Law Radio.
[16:45.400 --> 16:52.400]  We'll be right back.
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[19:10.880 --> 19:39.880]  Okay, we are back.
[19:39.880 --> 19:44.880]  Randy Calton, Deborah Stevens at Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi.
[19:44.880 --> 19:56.880]  Okay, Jeff, we were trying to find a way to undermine the indictment.
[19:56.880 --> 20:02.880]  So there won't be a transcript, but there will be a recording.
[20:02.880 --> 20:14.880]  And one of the things you can do if you file the suit is request that the recording to be listened to by the court
[20:14.880 --> 20:19.880]  and camera, and camera means in private.
[20:19.880 --> 20:22.880]  Okay.
[20:22.880 --> 20:25.880]  Now, another question I've got is the grand jury foreman.
[20:25.880 --> 20:29.880]  I cannot find her personal address.
[20:29.880 --> 20:33.880]  So when I serve her, can I serve her at the courthouse?
[20:33.880 --> 20:39.880]  I know she doesn't live there, and she's probably not the foreman anymore.
[20:39.880 --> 20:42.880]  No, she won't be the foreman, still be the foreman.
[20:42.880 --> 20:52.880]  But that's a good question because the grand jury member is not exactly a public official.
[20:52.880 --> 20:55.880]  Okay, because they're going to claim that she was never served and throw my case out,
[20:55.880 --> 20:58.880]  because I cannot find her on the Internet.
[20:58.880 --> 21:04.880]  Then you can petition for her address through discovery.
[21:04.880 --> 21:06.880]  Oh, after the suit is filed.
[21:06.880 --> 21:07.880]  Yeah.
[21:07.880 --> 21:09.880]  Okay.
[21:09.880 --> 21:12.880]  You put petition for the names and address of all the grand jury members.
[21:12.880 --> 21:21.880]  You can sue all of the grand jury members who were grand juries on this date.
[21:21.880 --> 21:29.880]  And then names, you can provide the names after, you know, you can request the court order the prosecuting attorney
[21:29.880 --> 21:33.880]  to provide names and addresses for the grand jury members.
[21:33.880 --> 21:43.880]  Or request in the alternative that the court serve all of these members
[21:43.880 --> 21:47.880]  so that you don't have to have their address.
[21:47.880 --> 21:52.880]  You can ask the court for alternative form of service.
[21:52.880 --> 21:53.880]  Okay.
[21:53.880 --> 21:59.880]  They're going to object to giving you a grand jury member's address.
[21:59.880 --> 22:03.880]  So you might ask them for the alternative service.
[22:03.880 --> 22:05.880]  Alternative service.
[22:05.880 --> 22:06.880]  Yeah.
[22:06.880 --> 22:07.880]  I've done that.
[22:07.880 --> 22:09.880]  I did that once before.
[22:09.880 --> 22:16.880]  You know, I told the court that I really did not want these grand jury members' home addresses.
[22:16.880 --> 22:20.880]  I asked the court to serve the grand jury members.
[22:20.880 --> 22:22.880]  I don't even remember what it was about.
[22:22.880 --> 22:26.880]  But they agreed that was not a problem.
[22:26.880 --> 22:27.880]  Okay.
[22:27.880 --> 22:28.880]  I got it.
[22:28.880 --> 22:30.880]  And okay.
[22:30.880 --> 22:35.880]  I want to read part of my complaint to you because I've never done that.
[22:35.880 --> 22:38.880]  And I want to make sure the lettering is correct.
[22:38.880 --> 22:40.880]  Can I run through that real quick?
[22:40.880 --> 22:41.880]  Yes.
[22:41.880 --> 22:43.880]  If I see anything, then you can correct me.
[22:43.880 --> 22:44.880]  Okay.
[22:44.880 --> 22:46.880]  And claimant, I put claimant.
[22:46.880 --> 22:48.880]  Should I put plaintiff?
[22:48.880 --> 22:49.880]  It doesn't matter.
[22:49.880 --> 22:55.880]  As long as you put your name here and after referred to as whatever.
[22:55.880 --> 23:03.880]  I once put opposing counsel here and after referred to as shyster.
[23:03.880 --> 23:08.880]  And I got to the end of the suit and I was going to do a search and replace.
[23:08.880 --> 23:13.880]  And I said, nah, just leave it in there.
[23:13.880 --> 23:17.880]  I said, Judge, you can see him try to keep from chuckling.
[23:17.880 --> 23:24.880]  And he said, Mr. Kelton, you think that was cute.
[23:24.880 --> 23:26.880]  But we won't be doing that anymore.
[23:26.880 --> 23:29.880]  Oh, Judge, I meant to do a search and replace.
[23:29.880 --> 23:31.880]  Sure you did.
[23:31.880 --> 23:37.880]  Anyway, point is, it doesn't matter, whatever you call yourself.
[23:37.880 --> 23:38.880]  Okay.
[23:38.880 --> 23:39.880]  I'm going to run through this real quick.
[23:39.880 --> 23:43.880]  In any part, you can correct me and state the way that you would write it.
[23:43.880 --> 23:46.880]  And then I can listen to it and retype it back.
[23:46.880 --> 23:47.880]  Okay.
[23:47.880 --> 23:51.880]  So plaintiff Jeffrey L. Hill, my last name is Hill, not Mississippi.
[23:51.880 --> 23:53.880]  I know that's kind of strange.
[23:53.880 --> 23:56.880]  Here and after Hill is a former student at Mississippi State University,
[23:56.880 --> 23:59.880]  but he currently lives in Arkansas.
[23:59.880 --> 24:01.880]  I didn't say but.
[24:01.880 --> 24:06.880]  Hill was not contracted nor had an agreement with the Octobaha County Sheriff's Department.
[24:06.880 --> 24:10.880]  Is that pointless or is that good?
[24:10.880 --> 24:14.880]  I don't know what the purpose of it is.
[24:14.880 --> 24:15.880]  Okay.
[24:15.880 --> 24:17.880]  So we can strike that?
[24:17.880 --> 24:18.880]  Yes.
[24:18.880 --> 24:20.880]  And this is a criminal complaint?
[24:20.880 --> 24:24.880]  No, this is my Title 42 suit.
[24:24.880 --> 24:25.880]  Oh, okay.
[24:25.880 --> 24:28.880]  Unless it's relevant.
[24:28.880 --> 24:32.880]  Well, I don't know if it is or not.
[24:32.880 --> 24:33.880]  Okay.
[24:33.880 --> 24:36.880]  So keep going.
[24:36.880 --> 24:38.880]  Next one is almost the same.
[24:38.880 --> 24:41.880]  Defended Octobaha County here and after County is a legal fiction
[24:41.880 --> 24:46.880]  and a quasi-municipal corporation operating under the charter laws of the state of Mississippi.
[24:46.880 --> 24:47.880]  Leave that.
[24:47.880 --> 24:50.880]  Do not take that out of there.
[24:50.880 --> 24:52.880]  Oh, take it out.
[24:52.880 --> 24:54.880]  Yeah, they know what it is.
[24:54.880 --> 24:58.880]  That's something only a pro se would put in.
[24:58.880 --> 25:03.880]  Okay, and it goes on to say at all times relevant to this complaint,
[25:03.880 --> 25:09.880]  County either directly or indirectly trained, controlled, maintained, policy-employed, supervised, compensated, enriched,
[25:09.880 --> 25:14.880]  or awarded some or all of the other defendants in their action on January 30, 2012,
[25:14.880 --> 25:16.880]  city is being sued as a person.
[25:16.880 --> 25:17.880]  That's an entire thing.
[25:17.880 --> 25:18.880]  Strike it all?
[25:18.880 --> 25:20.880]  No, no.
[25:20.880 --> 25:24.880]  You're suing this city.
[25:24.880 --> 25:25.880]  The county.
[25:25.880 --> 25:31.880]  I mean the county in an 83 suit.
[25:31.880 --> 25:37.880]  I'll have to go back and re-research 1983 suits,
[25:37.880 --> 25:46.880]  but I believe you should be suing the legal entity for a not under 1983,
[25:46.880 --> 25:51.880]  but under procedural due process claim.
[25:51.880 --> 26:03.880]  A 1983 suit is intended to be directed at individual human beings for their personal bad behavior.
[26:03.880 --> 26:08.880]  If you go after an entity, a legal fiction,
[26:08.880 --> 26:13.880]  then you would tend to do that under a procedural due process.
[26:13.880 --> 26:17.880]  Okay, so strike the whole thing that I just read, strike it out?
[26:17.880 --> 26:24.880]  Yeah, well, if it needs to be a 1983 suit,
[26:24.880 --> 26:32.880]  it will be a 1983 suit whether you say it's a 1983 suit or not.
[26:32.880 --> 26:33.880]  Okay.
[26:33.880 --> 26:38.880]  But if you say that you're making your claim under 1983,
[26:38.880 --> 26:48.880]  and 1983 is directed at individuals and not at legal entities, then they may want to strike it.
[26:48.880 --> 26:50.880]  Oh, okay, because I listed the county as a party.
[26:50.880 --> 26:52.880]  I listed the grand jury foreman.
[26:52.880 --> 26:53.880]  Her name is Keely.
[26:53.880 --> 26:57.880]  And then Octavia County, two parties.
[26:57.880 --> 27:00.880]  Do I strike the county as a party?
[27:00.880 --> 27:03.880]  Okay, you don't have to list the county.
[27:03.880 --> 27:05.880]  What's going to happen is,
[27:05.880 --> 27:10.880]  I would suggest you list the county and the prosecutor.
[27:10.880 --> 27:12.880]  Okay.
[27:12.880 --> 27:21.880]  And when you do that, I'm sorry, I said county and prosecutor, grand jury foreman and prosecutor.
[27:21.880 --> 27:22.880]  Oh, okay.
[27:22.880 --> 27:33.880]  When you do that, the state is going to construe your suit as a suit against the county.
[27:33.880 --> 27:34.880]  Okay.
[27:34.880 --> 27:40.880]  No matter how you sue 1983, however you sue a public official,
[27:40.880 --> 27:45.880]  the court is going to do everything they can to make it a suit against the county.
[27:45.880 --> 27:47.880]  Okay, got it.
[27:47.880 --> 27:49.880]  Okay, Lisa Keely here.
[27:49.880 --> 27:51.880]  I can say names on the radio.
[27:51.880 --> 27:52.880]  Yeah.
[27:52.880 --> 27:54.880]  Okay, here and after Keely.
[27:54.880 --> 27:58.880]  At all times relevant to the fact hearing this complaint was the foreman of the grand jury
[27:58.880 --> 28:04.880]  acting in such capacity as the agent, servant and employee employed by Octavia County.
[28:04.880 --> 28:11.880]  And I should switch that to the district attorney and is being sued and her individual.
[28:11.880 --> 28:12.880]  No, no, no, no, hold on.
[28:12.880 --> 28:16.880]  You can still say she acted under the authority of the county.
[28:16.880 --> 28:18.880]  You can still say that.
[28:18.880 --> 28:19.880]  Oh, I got it.
[28:19.880 --> 28:20.880]  Okay, so leave that alone.
[28:20.880 --> 28:22.880]  Yeah.
[28:22.880 --> 28:23.880]  Okay.
[28:23.880 --> 28:30.880]  Keely and Octavia County are collectively referred to as defendants.
[28:30.880 --> 28:31.880]  Okay, change that.
[28:31.880 --> 28:36.880]  I would change and name just Keely and the prosecutor.
[28:36.880 --> 28:40.880]  Let them attach it to the county.
[28:40.880 --> 28:42.880]  Got it.
[28:42.880 --> 28:43.880]  Okay, that's done.
[28:43.880 --> 28:48.880]  At all time relevance, defendant actor under color of state law.
[28:48.880 --> 28:50.880]  That'll work.
[28:50.880 --> 28:54.880]  And in the process denied you in the due course of laws.
[28:54.880 --> 28:56.880]  You want to get that in there.
[28:56.880 --> 28:59.880]  That goes to due process.
[28:59.880 --> 29:00.880]  Oh, okay.
[29:00.880 --> 29:02.880]  Under the facts, do I need to say this?
[29:02.880 --> 29:05.880]  Hill had been attending Mississippi State University.
[29:05.880 --> 29:08.880]  Is that relevant?
[29:08.880 --> 29:10.880]  No.
[29:10.880 --> 29:12.880]  Strike it.
[29:12.880 --> 29:13.880]  Okay.
[29:13.880 --> 29:18.880]  On January 21st, Keely acting as the foreman of the Octavia County grand jury,
[29:18.880 --> 29:24.880]  signed an indictment against Hill for charge of weapon on campus.
[29:24.880 --> 29:26.880]  Okay.
[29:26.880 --> 29:28.880]  Hill had been residing at Aikenville.
[29:28.880 --> 29:30.880]  Okay, hold on, step back.
[29:30.880 --> 29:37.880]  If you're going to say on campus, then go ahead and put in the fact that you were a student at the university.
[29:37.880 --> 29:38.880]  Got it.
[29:38.880 --> 29:39.880]  Makes it make sense.
[29:39.880 --> 29:40.880]  Hill.
[29:40.880 --> 29:43.880]  Hang on, about to go to break.
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[33:27.880 --> 33:32.880]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi.
[33:32.880 --> 33:34.880]  Okay, Jeff.
[33:34.880 --> 33:40.880]  Just to save time, I've pretty much got my facts listed.
[33:40.880 --> 33:47.880]  I want to just run down to my causes of action because that's why the judge threw my last case out.
[33:47.880 --> 33:50.880]  He said he'll never state of the cause of action.
[33:50.880 --> 33:52.880]  Okay, good.
[33:52.880 --> 33:56.880]  And so I want to make sure that this cause of action is right.
[33:56.880 --> 34:03.880]  Okay, before we get to it, how did you develop the cause of action?
[34:03.880 --> 34:08.880]  Like what we had talked, I requested the minutes from the grand jury,
[34:08.880 --> 34:14.880]  got a letter saying there's no minutes the next time I was in court during the trial.
[34:14.880 --> 34:15.880]  Okay, hold on.
[34:15.880 --> 34:17.880]  Wrong answer.
[34:17.880 --> 34:20.880]  Okay.
[34:20.880 --> 34:22.880]  What is the cause of action?
[34:22.880 --> 34:25.880]  Is it a named cause of action?
[34:25.880 --> 34:29.880]  Or is it a tort?
[34:29.880 --> 34:33.880]  Well, I'm calling it a Fourth Amendment violation.
[34:33.880 --> 34:35.880]  Okay.
[34:35.880 --> 34:40.880]  You really don't get to do that with causes of action.
[34:40.880 --> 34:42.880]  You need to find the cause of action.
[34:42.880 --> 34:46.880]  This would go under a tort.
[34:46.880 --> 34:58.880]  You have causes of actions generally ring in contract where one person had a duty to another person and breached that duty.
[34:58.880 --> 35:05.880]  And depending on what the nature of the duty was and how it was breached would determine what the cause of action is.
[35:05.880 --> 35:13.880]  And almost all of the causes of actions you could think of are already legally defined and named.
[35:13.880 --> 35:16.880]  Fraud by non-disclosure.
[35:16.880 --> 35:29.880]  Defendant had a fiduciary duty to get to, I'm sorry, defendant gave notice to plaintiff.
[35:29.880 --> 35:33.880]  Defendant failed to give full notice to plaintiff.
[35:33.880 --> 35:39.880]  Plaintiff was unaware of the information not given.
[35:39.880 --> 35:51.880]  Defendant had reason to believe that plaintiff was not aware of said information and plaintiff was harmed thereby.
[35:51.880 --> 35:54.880]  You've got a set of elements.
[35:54.880 --> 36:06.880]  And where I'm going to with this is why you need a cause of action is in order to write the cause of action, do not write it from the elements.
[36:06.880 --> 36:09.880]  And that's what you want to do.
[36:09.880 --> 36:12.880]  You want to go find the cause of action and then read the elements.
[36:12.880 --> 36:14.880]  No, no, no, that's not how you do it.
[36:14.880 --> 36:22.880]  Go find the pattern jury charge for your cause of action and read that.
[36:22.880 --> 36:27.880]  That's what the judge is going to tell the jury.
[36:27.880 --> 36:32.880]  This is what you must find.
[36:32.880 --> 36:42.880]  The only thing that matters in your suit is what the judge is going to tell the jury they must find.
[36:42.880 --> 36:53.880]  If you got a whole bunch of stuff in there and it doesn't go to anything that the judge is going to reference in the pattern jury charge,
[36:53.880 --> 36:59.880]  you are wasting your time and the court's time and that's probably why your case got tossed.
[36:59.880 --> 37:06.880]  Okay. So my cause of action is not violation of the Fourth Amendment and the Eighth Amendment.
[37:06.880 --> 37:09.880]  My cause of action is fraud.
[37:09.880 --> 37:11.880]  That'll work.
[37:11.880 --> 37:12.880]  And that's it.
[37:12.880 --> 37:25.880]  Well, in order to sue a governmental entity in the federal court, you're going to need procedural due process.
[37:25.880 --> 37:29.880]  I had a right to this.
[37:29.880 --> 37:35.880]  They had a duty to provide me with this right and to protect this right.
[37:35.880 --> 37:43.880]  And they failed to provide me with this right or protect this right or they denied me in the full and free exercise of this right.
[37:43.880 --> 37:47.880]  Go look up procedural due process.
[37:47.880 --> 37:55.880]  Look up jury charge for procedural due process. There's procedural and substantive due process.
[37:55.880 --> 37:57.880]  All right.
[37:57.880 --> 37:58.880]  Look those up.
[37:58.880 --> 38:03.880]  Now, you've probably got most of it in there already.
[38:03.880 --> 38:13.880]  But once you read the pattern jury charge, if you have written your cause of action based on the pattern jury charges
[38:13.880 --> 38:23.880]  and you have these standard jury charges for most every cause of action, then when the jury hears the pattern jury charge
[38:23.880 --> 38:33.880]  and you've written your complaint based on that, they're going to walk right down the lines of the issues that you've presented.
[38:33.880 --> 38:39.880]  And you're not going to get this garbage failed to state a claim in which recovery can't be had.
[38:39.880 --> 38:40.880]  Okay.
[38:40.880 --> 38:46.880]  Do I want to do a pattern jury charge for fraud also?
[38:46.880 --> 38:56.880]  Whatever the claim you want to make is, fraud would, if it's a state official, fraud would ring in the state court.
[38:56.880 --> 39:00.880]  The Fed would have no subject matter jurisdiction.
[39:00.880 --> 39:01.880]  Oh.
[39:01.880 --> 39:04.880]  Procedural due process will ring in the Fed court.
[39:04.880 --> 39:08.880]  1983 goes to procedural due process.
[39:08.880 --> 39:18.880]  But 1983 goes to procedural due process violated by a specific human being.
[39:18.880 --> 39:23.880]  1983 was worthless until the, was it the Brady?
[39:23.880 --> 39:26.880]  Not the Brady decision.
[39:26.880 --> 39:27.880]  What's the name of it?
[39:27.880 --> 39:33.880]  You recognize if I can think of it, five IRS agents were sued.
[39:33.880 --> 39:36.880]  And they said, oh, you can't sue us, we're public officials.
[39:36.880 --> 39:39.880]  And they were sued under 1983.
[39:39.880 --> 39:42.880]  1983 hadn't been used.
[39:42.880 --> 39:47.880]  Like 18 U.S. Code 242, that hadn't been used.
[39:47.880 --> 39:56.880]  The reason I mentioned those together are they are flip sides of the same Ku Klux Klan Act.
[39:56.880 --> 40:00.880]  18 U.S. Code 242 makes it a crime.
[40:00.880 --> 40:03.880]  1983 allows you to sue them for that crime.
[40:03.880 --> 40:07.880]  Most of these were passed in 1871 in the Ku Klux Klan Act.
[40:07.880 --> 40:18.880]  But it wasn't until 1943 with the screws decision that 18 U.S. Code 242 was actually brought into use.
[40:18.880 --> 40:20.880]  Before that, nobody ever used it.
[40:20.880 --> 40:23.880]  The courts wouldn't entertain it.
[40:23.880 --> 40:28.880]  But on the heels of that, 1983 was opened up.
[40:28.880 --> 40:33.880]  But you could always sue the government for a procedural due process.
[40:33.880 --> 40:36.880]  You just couldn't sue the individual person.
[40:36.880 --> 40:45.880]  So you need to decide, do you want to sue the individual human being or do you want to sue the governmental entity?
[40:45.880 --> 40:47.880]  I want to win the case.
[40:47.880 --> 40:55.880]  Okay, then the governmental entity is easier to get at than the individual human being.
[40:55.880 --> 41:00.880]  So procedural due process will probably be where you want to go.
[41:00.880 --> 41:10.880]  So before you do anything with this, back up, look up substantive and procedural due process.
[41:10.880 --> 41:15.880]  There are some substantive due process claims, and they may actually come in here,
[41:15.880 --> 41:21.880]  but most of these types of claims are procedural due process claims.
[41:21.880 --> 41:30.880]  And look up a pattern jury charge for procedural due process, and the judge will walk down the elements.
[41:30.880 --> 41:38.880]  He will say, you must find that the plaintiff proved this and this and this and this.
[41:38.880 --> 41:49.880]  And when you look at those, when I'm going to write a lawsuit, the first thing I do is get the pattern jury charge.
[41:49.880 --> 41:55.880]  Everything I write in that lawsuit is focused toward that pattern jury charge.
[41:55.880 --> 42:03.880]  If it don't go there, no matter how articulate I think I am, out it goes.
[42:03.880 --> 42:07.880]  Don't distract my jury from the pattern jury charge.
[42:07.880 --> 42:09.880]  Does that make sense, Jeff?
[42:09.880 --> 42:11.880]  Okay, I've got one problem.
[42:11.880 --> 42:18.880]  This all occurred in 2011, so that's been six years ago, and the statute of limitations is three.
[42:18.880 --> 42:24.880]  That's why I went for fraud.
[42:24.880 --> 42:27.880]  Okay, when, no, no, no, okay.
[42:27.880 --> 42:35.880]  When did a final determination of your case occur?
[42:35.880 --> 42:39.880]  In 2011, six years ago exactly.
[42:39.880 --> 42:49.880]  Oh, oh, no, no, no, final adjudication is the end of the exhaustion of appeals.
[42:49.880 --> 42:58.880]  Oh, well, it's still, oh, under the gun charge, I'm still up on appeal.
[42:58.880 --> 43:05.880]  Then the clock should not have run out because they're still depriving you in your rights.
[43:05.880 --> 43:07.880]  Oh, okay.
[43:07.880 --> 43:10.880]  And there is no final adjudication.
[43:10.880 --> 43:16.880]  I'm still on appeal, so the three-year statute of limitations hasn't started.
[43:16.880 --> 43:18.880]  No.
[43:18.880 --> 43:20.880]  Okay, so I don't have to worry about fraud.
[43:20.880 --> 43:26.880]  This is just procedural due process and look up the pattern jury charge.
[43:26.880 --> 43:33.880]  Yeah, you're still having to write pleadings and appear before the court and do all this song and dance
[43:33.880 --> 43:38.880]  and seltzer down your pants because of that act that occurred back then.
[43:38.880 --> 43:40.880]  So you're still being harmed by it.
[43:40.880 --> 43:43.880]  So the clock hasn't started running yet.
[43:43.880 --> 43:44.880]  Okay.
[43:44.880 --> 43:50.880]  Once your last appeal has been exhausted, then there is a final determination.
[43:50.880 --> 43:52.880]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[43:52.880 --> 43:55.880]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
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[46:26.880 --> 46:32.880]  We're at the count, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio and I really do need to push this fundraiser
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[47:46.880 --> 47:57.880]  OK, Jeff, before you go through all of this, have you got the e-book?
[47:57.880 --> 47:59.880]  Have I got who?
[47:59.880 --> 48:01.880]  The e-book, my e-book?
[48:01.880 --> 48:02.880]  No.
[48:02.880 --> 48:04.880]  You might want to get that.
[48:04.880 --> 48:06.880]  Send me an email.
[48:06.880 --> 48:12.880]  I have a whole section on there on how to write a legal document.
[48:12.880 --> 48:19.880]  And if you go look on the Internet for instructions on how to write a legal document, they're not going to tell you this stuff.
[48:19.880 --> 48:21.880]  I can't find it anywhere.
[48:21.880 --> 48:25.880]  But I've been writing legal documents for a long time.
[48:25.880 --> 48:38.880]  And since we're proceeds, we're writing to an audience that tends to be prejudiced against us from the get-go.
[48:38.880 --> 48:45.880]  So we need to write really well-crafted documents.
[48:45.880 --> 48:46.880]  OK.
[48:46.880 --> 48:55.880]  In my opinion, your document is better prepared if it doesn't look exactly like what most lawyers produce,
[48:55.880 --> 49:03.880]  because they produce this one huge document with everything just strung together.
[49:03.880 --> 49:15.880]  When I write a legal document, the first thing I want is if it's civil or if it's criminal, I want the pattern jury charge.
[49:15.880 --> 49:19.880]  Pattern jury charge because it's standard.
[49:19.880 --> 49:24.880]  There is standard jury charge for every crime that's on the books.
[49:24.880 --> 49:26.880]  There's a pattern jury charge.
[49:26.880 --> 49:29.880]  And for most every cause of action, there is one.
[49:29.880 --> 49:31.880]  You get that.
[49:31.880 --> 49:44.880]  And then the first thing you do is you tell the judge or whoever's going to read this document, this is what I'm going to tell you.
[49:44.880 --> 49:56.880]  This is a suit wherein plaintiff will prove that the indictment was never properly brought.
[49:56.880 --> 49:57.880]  That's enough.
[49:57.880 --> 50:00.880]  Now he knows where you're going.
[50:00.880 --> 50:08.880]  And then you put in your jurisdiction and your parties and your jurisdiction and your venue, and you put in a set of facts.
[50:08.880 --> 50:16.880]  When you start putting in the facts, the reader already knows where you're going with these facts.
[50:16.880 --> 50:28.880]  And he's going to read the facts in a way to find facts to show that the indictment was not properly brought.
[50:28.880 --> 50:33.880]  If you construct your facts carefully, the reader may not agree with you,
[50:33.880 --> 50:40.880]  but you're going to say, okay, I see how he got there from here.
[50:40.880 --> 50:46.880]  And then you go to your argument in support.
[50:46.880 --> 50:48.880]  You can say this is what they should have done.
[50:48.880 --> 50:50.880]  This is what they did do.
[50:50.880 --> 50:53.880]  And this is what was wrong with it.
[50:53.880 --> 50:57.880]  Now you've got your argument as to what's wrong with all this.
[50:57.880 --> 51:01.880]  Then you go to your causes of action, your claims.
[51:01.880 --> 51:08.880]  Make sure that in your statement of facts and in your argument in support,
[51:08.880 --> 51:16.880]  you have argued, you've stated facts for all the elements and you've argued all the elements.
[51:16.880 --> 51:23.880]  And then when you get to the cause of action, you make your claim on all the elements and you can refer back to your arguments.
[51:23.880 --> 51:31.880]  This way your reader sees the argument at least three times.
[51:31.880 --> 51:35.880]  The more he hears it, the more it sticks in his brain.
[51:35.880 --> 51:43.880]  If you have a citation, I know it's common to use footnotes in legal documents.
[51:43.880 --> 51:48.880]  I absolutely abhor footnotes.
[51:48.880 --> 51:54.880]  As to mental flow, they are poisoned.
[51:54.880 --> 52:04.880]  When you say a person who is arrested has a right to an examining trial according to Gerstein Pugh.
[52:04.880 --> 52:08.880]  And then if they want to know what Gerstein Pugh says about it,
[52:08.880 --> 52:12.880]  they can go down to the footnote and you may have a little quotation in there.
[52:12.880 --> 52:17.880]  Or then they can go over to the Internet and pull up Gerstein Pugh and read Gerstein Pugh.
[52:17.880 --> 52:21.880]  That is insane.
[52:21.880 --> 52:27.880]  If I'm going to reference what Gerstein Pugh says, I'm going to put it right there,
[52:27.880 --> 52:32.880]  according to Gerstein Pugh as follows colon.
[52:32.880 --> 52:38.880]  And then instead of double spacing like, or I use space and a half instead of double.
[52:38.880 --> 52:41.880]  I've never had a complaint about it.
[52:41.880 --> 52:45.880]  I do single spacing, indent both sides.
[52:45.880 --> 52:54.880]  So the reader at a glance knows that this different looking section is my quotation.
[52:54.880 --> 52:55.880]  And he can jump right over.
[52:55.880 --> 53:00.880]  If he knows what it says, if he's familiar with the case, he's not going to bother to read it.
[53:00.880 --> 53:02.880]  He can jump right over it.
[53:02.880 --> 53:06.880]  But if he doesn't know what it says, then he can read it right there.
[53:06.880 --> 53:10.880]  He doesn't have to go somewhere else and lose flow.
[53:10.880 --> 53:15.880]  If I reference the statute, the statute reads as follows.
[53:15.880 --> 53:19.880]  You never make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth.
[53:19.880 --> 53:22.880]  Always make it out of the mouth of the courts or the legislature.
[53:22.880 --> 53:31.880]  If I reference the statute, I quote exactly what I'm referencing right there so that he has referential index.
[53:31.880 --> 53:33.880]  He doesn't lose his flow.
[53:33.880 --> 53:38.880]  There's a whole section on how to do that.
[53:38.880 --> 53:44.880]  And then there's some low down rotten tricks.
[53:44.880 --> 53:46.880]  Some of them are shyster tricks.
[53:46.880 --> 53:55.880]  Some of them are tricks the shyster doesn't have on how to think about writing your document and the last thing you should do.
[53:55.880 --> 54:03.880]  Once you have your document completed, get an audience, even if it's a couple of cats or dogs.
[54:03.880 --> 54:07.880]  Cats are better than dogs because cats get bored easier.
[54:07.880 --> 54:11.880]  Read it out loud to them.
[54:11.880 --> 54:18.880]  Before the show started today, I was reading a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction I've rewritten.
[54:18.880 --> 54:27.880]  I was reading it out loud and I was annoyed at the errors I found when I read it out loud.
[54:27.880 --> 54:30.880]  So last thing you do is read it out loud.
[54:30.880 --> 54:31.880]  Okay.
[54:31.880 --> 54:32.880]  Okay.
[54:32.880 --> 54:36.880]  Call me next week.
[54:36.880 --> 54:37.880]  I may not too.
[54:37.880 --> 54:39.880]  I actually got hired with a trucking company.
[54:39.880 --> 54:41.880]  I may be gone for six weeks.
[54:41.880 --> 54:42.880]  Oh.
[54:42.880 --> 54:49.880]  You heard about the college professor what was going to marry the Pollock, didn't you?
[54:49.880 --> 54:50.880]  No.
[54:50.880 --> 54:51.880]  Oh.
[54:51.880 --> 54:54.880]  Well, he felt bad because he was much smarter than she was.
[54:54.880 --> 54:56.880]  So he went to a neurosurgeon.
[54:56.880 --> 54:58.880]  He had half his brain taken out.
[54:58.880 --> 55:00.880]  And the surgeon told him, sure, we can handle that.
[55:00.880 --> 55:08.880]  And operated on him and he woke up and recovered and the surgeon came to him and said, look, I'm sorry, but it seems I had a hangover
[55:08.880 --> 55:12.880]  and I accidentally took out three quarters of your brain.
[55:12.880 --> 55:19.880]  That college professor looked him right in the eye and said, 10-4, good buddy.
[55:19.880 --> 55:20.880]  Okay.
[55:20.880 --> 55:21.880]  Okay.
[55:21.880 --> 55:22.880]  Enough of that.
[55:22.880 --> 55:23.880]  There we go.
[55:23.880 --> 55:24.880]  Okay.
[55:24.880 --> 55:25.880]  But.
[55:25.880 --> 55:29.880]  I may not be able to call you for like a month, but then I'll get a hold of you once things get straightened out for me.
[55:29.880 --> 55:30.880]  Okay.
[55:30.880 --> 55:31.880]  Next time you call me.
[55:31.880 --> 55:32.880]  Okay.
[55:32.880 --> 55:36.880]  Read me a nice, this is a nice short pleading.
[55:36.880 --> 55:43.880]  It's a real nice one to do this with where you tell the judge what you're going to tell him.
[55:43.880 --> 55:48.880]  And then you give him the facts you're going to rely on when you tell him this.
[55:48.880 --> 55:55.880]  And then you tell him how those facts amount to harm to you.
[55:55.880 --> 55:59.880]  And then you list your causes of action.
[55:59.880 --> 56:07.880]  And then, you know, what I generally do is go up to my argument and support and cut it out and drop it in my cause of action.
[56:07.880 --> 56:16.880]  But make sure the cause of actions follow the pattern grand jury, pattern jury charges for each one.
[56:16.880 --> 56:27.880]  I think you will be well pleased at how effective your document will be if you do that.
[56:27.880 --> 56:32.880]  So my cause of action would be procedural due process.
[56:32.880 --> 56:43.880]  That's primarily, if you're going to go after the political entity, then you probably want to go for procedural or you want to go for due process.
[56:43.880 --> 56:46.880]  Procedural is substantive.
[56:46.880 --> 56:49.880]  That will get you into the federal court.
[56:49.880 --> 57:00.880]  If you go to fraud, that's a state issue unless you have some way to tie it to the federal.
[57:00.880 --> 57:02.880]  Oh, okay.
[57:02.880 --> 57:03.880]  Okay.
[57:03.880 --> 57:04.880]  So just due process then.
[57:04.880 --> 57:05.880]  Okay.
[57:05.880 --> 57:06.880]  We'll do that.
[57:06.880 --> 57:12.880]  I don't have to argue my Eighth Amendment right to a grand jury and my Fourth Amendment right to an indictment, you know, arrest and all that.
[57:12.880 --> 57:13.880]  I don't have to do any of that.
[57:13.880 --> 57:16.880]  That's procedural due process.
[57:16.880 --> 57:17.880]  Oh, okay.
[57:17.880 --> 57:18.880]  That's all covered in it.
[57:18.880 --> 57:22.880]  Yeah, that is procedural due process.
[57:22.880 --> 57:23.880]  Okay.
[57:23.880 --> 57:35.880]  So research and procedural due process, they'll explain how to claim it, but it goes to what public officials are required to do when acting under color of their authority,
[57:35.880 --> 57:42.880]  meaning color, meaning pretense, and their failure to perform those duties and in the process denying you a right.
[57:42.880 --> 57:45.880]  Read 18 U.S. Code 242.
[57:45.880 --> 57:52.880]  A violation of 18 U.S. Code 242 is a procedural due process violation.
[57:52.880 --> 57:53.880]  Okay, got it.
[57:53.880 --> 57:54.880]  I'll let you go.
[57:54.880 --> 57:57.880]  Move on to the next caller and I appreciate it.
[57:57.880 --> 57:59.880]  Okay, Don, I see you there.
[57:59.880 --> 58:01.880]  We will pick you up on the other side.
[58:01.880 --> 58:03.880]  Thank you, Jeff.
[58:03.880 --> 58:06.880]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue of Law Radio.
[58:06.880 --> 58:09.880]  And on the break, it's a good time to go check out our gun giveaway.
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[58:41.880 --> 58:49.880]  We'll be right back.
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[01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:32.880]  Today in history, the year 1775, an anonymous writer thought to be Thomas Paine by many,
[01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.880]  publishes African Slavery in America, the first article in the American colonies
[01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:43.880]  calling for the emancipation of slaves and the abolition of slavery today in history.
[01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:47.880]  In recent news, after releasing and posting a motherload of thousands of documents
[01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:52.880]  detailing CIA hacking tools Tuesday, yesterday, WikiLeaks has again become the source of fear
[01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:57.880]  and hysteria for political power structures as the FBI has begun preparing for a major whistleblower hunt
[01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:04.880]  to determine who provided the materials on the procedures that the CIA uses in order to spy on espionage targets.
[01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:09.880]  Joel Brenner, former head of the U.S. Counterintelligence at the Office and Director of National Intelligence,
[01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:14.880]  stated that anybody who thinks that Manning and Snowden Palms were one-offs is just dead wrong.
[01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.880]  Ben Franklin said three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.
[01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.880]  If secrets are shared on systems in which thousands of people have access to them,
[01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:23.880]  they may really not be a secret anymore.
[01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:27.880]  This problem is not going away, and it's a condition of our existence.
[01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:31.880]  WikiLeaks said announcing the first release of hacking tools used by the CIA to break into phones,
[01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.880]  communication apps, GPS-enabled smart cars, and other electronic devices that,
[01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:40.880]  quote, this extraordinary collection, which amounts to more than several hundred million lines of code,
[01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:43.880]  gives its possessors the entire hacking capacity of the CIA.
[01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:48.880]  The archive appears to have been circulated among former U.S. government hackers and contractors
[01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:53.880]  in an unauthorized manner, one of whom has provided WikiLeaks with the portions of the archive.
[01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:57.880]  Edward Snowden gave his two cents regarding the alleged CIA documents,
[01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:01.880]  tweeting, what WikiLeaks has here is genuinely a big deal. Looks authentic.
[01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:10.880]  Today is the National Day Without a Woman, in sync with International Women's Day,
[01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:16.880]  observed first on February 28, 1909 in New York City and organized by the Socialist Party of America.
[01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:22.880]  In short, today is a call for a general strike for women to participate in, hence a Day Without a Woman.
[01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:26.880]  Those who can't skip work for the day are urged to participate by wearing red,
[01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:30.880]  a color that symbolizes war, revolution, sacrifice, and love.
[01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.880]  Female workers' rights, sexism, access to tax-funded health care and abortion,
[01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:38.880]  and the Trump administration are the main issues Socialist groups are hoping to address
[01:02:38.880 --> 01:03:00.880]  this International Women's Day.
[01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:35.880]  OK, we are back.
[01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.880]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue of La Radio.
[01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:46.880]  And here is Don from KIK IRS behind New Mexico, my 535 guy.
[01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:54.880]  Don, I am having so much fun with that statute. It was a great presence you brought me.
[01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.880]  Well, I hope it works very well for you.
[01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:06.880]  Well, I have my letter to the Attorney General's office, and it's about two weeks old now.
[01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:13.880]  And I am ready to go to the next step. Since I haven't received a response yet,
[01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:17.880]  I am going to assume that the SAC didn't send anything,
[01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.880]  and then I will file against the SAC with the U.S. Attorney.
[01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:30.880]  Well, I think that's a good approach. I waited on a letter from the Attorney General's office,
[01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:36.880]  and I got one from the Department of Justice's mail referral unit,
[01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:44.880]  telling me that they received my letter, and it will be reviewed.
[01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:50.880]  And if a response or update is necessary, it will be sent to you within 60 business days.
[01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.880]  Good, good.
[01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:58.880]  That's the response I got from my letter.
[01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:07.880]  Okay, I haven't read FOIA as opposed to the Open Records Act for Texas.
[01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:15.880]  Doesn't FOIA have a date limitation, a time limitation on how long they have to respond?
[01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:20.880]  Yeah, and it's a lot less than 60 days.
[01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:24.880]  I hope they do that to me. I need to go read it.
[01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:29.880]  Before I take my next action, I'll read the FOIA statute again. It's been a long time.
[01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:34.880]  It's been since we got the IRS agent fired in Fort Lauderdale.
[01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:38.880]  So that's been about seven or eight years ago.
[01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:40.880]  So I'll have to go back through it.
[01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.880]  But if they've exceeded the time limit,
[01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:47.880]  I'll just go ahead and file against the attorney general with the local U.S. attorney.
[01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:50.880]  That'll be great fun.
[01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:52.880]  And I'm going to go ahead and do that, too.
[01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:57.880]  I'm going to go ahead and send the U.S. attorney to the grand jury here.
[01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:09.880]  But I wanted to talk to you about what exactly I should put down as the criminal charge.
[01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:16.880]  Since I sent the grand jury a letter and never heard a thing back,
[01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:22.880]  I'm assuming that he intercepted that and never made it to the grand jury.
[01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:24.880]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
[01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:26.880]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:32.880]  That's not an assumption you can necessarily make. Let me explain why.
[01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:42.880]  If I send you a letter and you have a duty to respond to me, but I don't receive a response,
[01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:50.880]  I can't initially assume that anybody interfered with that mail to you.
[01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:58.880]  I have to assume that you didn't bother to respond to me.
[01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:04.880]  You get to file against the grand jury foreman.
[01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:08.880]  Is the grand jury foreman required to respond?
[01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:16.880]  Well, I need to go back and re-read duties of grand jurors.
[01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:20.880]  If I remember right, in the Fed it says,
[01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:32.880]  the grand jury shall investigate into all crimes subject to indictment that come to their knowledge by whatever means.
[01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:43.880]  So you gave notice to the grand jury of crime and so far as you know,
[01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:52.880]  you sent it to the foreman of the grand jury and so far as you know, the grand jury did not examine into the criminal accusation.
[01:07:52.880 --> 01:08:01.880]  Therefore, you have reason to believe that the foreman of the grand jury shielded the accused from prosecution
[01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:06.880]  by failing to perform a duty he was required to perform.
[01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:10.880]  All you know is you sent it to the foreman.
[01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:18.880]  If somebody else intercepted it, let the foreman throw that person under the bus.
[01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:19.880]  Okay.
[01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:21.880]  Does that make sense?
[01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:23.880]  It does.
[01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:40.880]  Now, we probably know the prosecutor did it, but we don't have any evidence. So going after the foreman, that's going to be a lot more fun.
[01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:49.880]  I went into the prosecutor's office one day and told him that I had intended to file against the grand jury.
[01:08:49.880 --> 01:09:00.880]  Oh, Mr. Kelton, please don't mess with my grand jury. They're too hard to see anyway.
[01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:05.880]  He does not play poker.
[01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:09.880]  I didn't laugh right there, but I felt like it.
[01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.880]  You just gave me great ammunition.
[01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:17.880]  The best way to get to them is to go after the foreman.
[01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:24.880]  Okay. I have to look at those statutes again for the federal grand jury.
[01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:31.880]  I'm sure that's pretty close to what it says, because a lot of the states have the same verbiage.
[01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:37.880]  The grand jury shall investigate into all crimes such good documents that come to the knowledge by whatever means.
[01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:42.880]  I know Colorado has it, and I recall reading a number of states that had it.
[01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:49.880]  Texas is somewhat different, but it goes to the same place.
[01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:55.880]  Texas says the grand jury shall investigate into all crimes subject to indictment that come to their knowledge
[01:09:55.880 --> 01:10:03.880]  by way of any member of the grand jury, the prosecuting attorney, or any credible person.
[01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.880]  So in effect, it goes to the same place.
[01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:07.880]  Okay.
[01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:12.880]  The way I read the code, that imposes a duty.
[01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.880]  That's really the only primary duty of a grand jury.
[01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:21.880]  So it would be great if the prosecutor secreted that from the grand jury foreman,
[01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:26.880]  and you filed criminal charges against the foreman.
[01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:30.880]  He is not going to be a happy camper.
[01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:35.880]  What if it's not the same grand juror who was there before?
[01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:39.880]  You don't have to know who the foreman was.
[01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:40.880]  Okay.
[01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:52.880]  You can file the complaint against the grand jury foreman who was the foreman on this day or in this time period.
[01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:58.880]  In a criminal complaint, you don't have to name the defendant.
[01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:05.880]  If you don't know the name of the defendant, you can just make a claim.
[01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:10.880]  Like if an officer does something improper, you can make a claim against unknown officer.
[01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:11.880]  Right.
[01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:22.880]  You make a claim against unknown foreman and then request that the court
[01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:29.880]  order the prosecuting attorney to reveal the name of the defendant.
[01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:30.880]  Okay.
[01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.880]  So that would be so much fun.
[01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:41.880]  The only place that I found what kind of relates to what you're saying was in the grand jury's,
[01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.880]  federal grand juror's handbook, and you said don't go by the handbook,
[01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:50.880]  but I didn't find anywhere in the code where it says what the handbook says,
[01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:55.880]  that matters may be brought to its attention in three ways by the U.S. attorney,
[01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:00.880]  by the court that impounded, or from the personal knowledge of a member of the grand jury,
[01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:05.880]  or from matters properly brought to a member's personal attention.
[01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:15.880]  So the federal grand jury handbook says that, but I haven't found that in the statutes yet.
[01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:24.880]  So it says see Hale versus Hinkle, a court case for 1906 for item number three, that last one.
[01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:25.880]  Hale versus Hinkle.
[01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:27.880]  I think I've read the case.
[01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:29.880]  It's been a long time.
[01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:35.880]  It's 201 U.S. 43, and I haven't gone and looked at Hale versus Hinkle.
[01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:38.880]  I think everybody should read Hale versus Hinkle.
[01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.880]  It's really a seminal case.
[01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:42.880]  Okay.
[01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:47.880]  Okay, I'm looking at federal grand jury.
[01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:55.880]  Okay, federal grand jury duty, but I did a search, but it didn't take me to the statute.
[01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:56.880]  Yeah.
[01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:02.880]  I don't think they want you to find the statute.
[01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:15.880]  It shall, I'm putting in it, shall be the duty of the grand jury.
[01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:18.880]  See what I get on that.
[01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:24.880]  Chapter 2939 grand juries.
[01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.880]  Great selection, grand jury definitions.
[01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:39.880]  Let's do it, control F. Duty, charge of grand juries.
[01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:48.880]  The grand jurors, after being sworn, shall be charged as to their duty by the judge of the court of common please.
[01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:50.880]  Common please?
[01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:52.880]  Ohio?
[01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:54.880]  Yeah.
[01:13:54.880 --> 01:14:02.880]  Common please is generally a term used in common, I mean, in commonwealth.
[01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:10.880]  Grand jury, okay, shall be the duty of the federal grand jury.
[01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:12.880]  Let's see what that gets to.
[01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:18.880]  Rules are in the rules of criminal procedure in Title 18 appendix.
[01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:20.880]  Wait, say that again?
[01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:35.880]  I said the rules for the federal grand jury I found in Title 18 appendix, federal rules of criminal procedure.
[01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:37.880]  Title 18?
[01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:40.880]  Yeah, appendix.
[01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:45.880]  Crimes and criminal, oh Title 18 is the criminal code.
[01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:53.880]  Yeah, and then the appendix is the criminal procedure rules.
[01:14:53.880 --> 01:15:01.880]  Okay, rule six, the grand jury.
[01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:06.880]  Control F, duty, see if we can find it.
[01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:08.880]  Duty is attorney's destiny.
[01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:13.880]  Okay, I will look it up, I'll have it tomorrow night.
[01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:14.880]  Okay.
[01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:21.880]  I'm relatively sure that's what the grand jury is going to have a duty to examine into all crimes.
[01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:30.880]  What I really want to look for in a federal grand jury is to see if I find something like I find in California.
[01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:39.880]  Frankly, California so far has the best grand jury that I've ever seen.
[01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:41.880]  Really?
[01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:53.880]  The California grand jury can investigate into anything it wants to.
[01:15:53.880 --> 01:16:04.880]  It can do contracts, government contracts, it can do government agencies, it can investigate into anything it wants to.
[01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:11.880]  And there's something in federal grand juries that's somewhat similar.
[01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:14.880]  I have to go in and find it.
[01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:20.880]  But I'll have it for tomorrow if you call back in.
[01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:27.880]  And if you can tell me what you found, I'll look up the California grand jury stuff.
[01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:33.880]  Just look up duties of California, duties of grand jury.
[01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:35.880]  Yeah, that's the state, right?
[01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:37.880]  State grand juries.
[01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:39.880]  Okay, hang on, about to go to break.
[01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:45.880]  Randy Kelton, Groovely Radio, our call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:59.880]  We'll be right back.
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[01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:22.880]  Don't fool me
[01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:28.880]  Well
[01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:35.880]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:40.880]  I was blindsided but now I can see your plans
[01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:43.880]  You put the fear in my pocket
[01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:45.880]  Took the money from my hand
[01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:47.880]  Ain't gonna fool me with that
[01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:49.880]  Okay, we are back.
[01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:51.880]  Brandon Kelton, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:54.880]  Brandon Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.880]  and we're talking to Don in New Mexico.
[01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:05.880]  Okay, Don, just, okay, I kind of bushwhacked you when you came in.
[01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:11.880]  Did you have a question that was different than where I'm at?
[01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:12.880]  I'm a couple.
[01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:17.880]  I'm going to be doing that criminal complaint against the U.S. Attorney here.
[01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:25.880]  I sent him the complaint for the FBI SAC, and I've never heard anything back.
[01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:33.880]  My letter to the Department of Justice came back with a, you know, well, we might get to it someday.
[01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:37.880]  Did you get a green card back?
[01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:41.880]  I've got proof. I've got proof, so I didn't do a green card.
[01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:46.880]  Who signed the green card?
[01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:51.880]  I don't know. For him, there is no green card. For the grand jury, there was one.
[01:20:51.880 --> 01:21:02.880]  Okay, you need to find, you need to get a hold of the final courthouse where the grand jury is.
[01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:06.880]  Can you read the signature on the green card?
[01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:08.880]  Yeah, it's a stamp.
[01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:15.880]  Oh, that's interesting. What does the stamp say?
[01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:19.880]  Yeah, it's a stamp. It's like a digital signature.
[01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:25.880]  Let's see. Wrong binder.
[01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:34.880]  Okay, while you're looking that up, the point I was going to is I'm going to what you actually know.
[01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:44.880]  What you know is if you sent a complaint to the grand jury and you got a green card back with this stamp on it,
[01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:49.880]  now you want to know who put that stamp on it.
[01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:51.880]  Yeah, well, okay.
[01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:55.880]  Do you want to find the human being who put the stamp on it?
[01:21:55.880 --> 01:22:04.880]  And if you didn't get a response from the foreman, then you assume that the human being who put that stamp on there,
[01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:09.880]  they secreted your complaint from the grand jury.
[01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:12.880]  And you file a complaint against the person who put that stamp on there.
[01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:23.880]  Even if you can't find who it is, you file against unknown person for tampering with the U.S. mail.
[01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:32.880]  I'd love to go after public officials who are absolute innocent.
[01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:41.880]  Some clerk in the mail room who does not have a clue, working for minimum wage.
[01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:46.880]  And you come in there and land on him like a ton of bricks.
[01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:59.880]  And he's going to jump up and down and scream bloody murder that expects somebody to come in and step in his place.
[01:22:59.880 --> 01:23:02.880]  Then you get them to feed you somebody.
[01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:03.880]  Does that make sense, Don?
[01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:06.880]  Back up because you've kind of lost me.
[01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:14.880]  So this would be a complaint against some unknown person that put the stamp on this card.
[01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:20.880]  And you sent a criminal complaint to the foreman of the grand jury.
[01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:21.880]  Yes.
[01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:25.880]  Somebody received that complaint.
[01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:36.880]  Someone stood in the shoes of the recipient, received that complaint and put this stamp on there.
[01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:46.880]  And since you didn't get a response from the recipient, you have reason to believe and do believe that the recipient never received that document.
[01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:49.880]  And another one to the grand jury about this?
[01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:50.880]  No.
[01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:59.880]  First, you want to find out, see if you can find out who put that stamp on there.
[01:23:59.880 --> 01:24:19.880]  So you send a FOIA to the courthouse requesting the name of the person who put this, you send a copy of the green card, who put this stamp on this green card.
[01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:25.880]  And that would, in this case, it would go to the U.S. Attorney's Office because that's where it went for the grand jury.
[01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:26.880]  That's perfect.
[01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:37.880]  The U.S. Attorney's going to look at that and say, what in the world is this chomp is setting us up?
[01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:40.880]  This is the way I love to do it.
[01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:45.880]  You know, if you're going to thump somebody, you don't want them to see it coming.
[01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:49.880]  You want them to have to look around and kind of figure out what happened.
[01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:56.880]  Here, you're asking for the name of the person who put the stamp on the green card.
[01:24:56.880 --> 01:25:04.880]  And the U.S. Attorney's going to look at that and say, why in the heck is he asking for that?
[01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:09.880]  And if he's gotten these smarts, he'll figure it out.
[01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:10.880]  And that's what you want.
[01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:15.880]  You want the U.S. Attorney to think you're coming after him.
[01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:16.880]  Okay.
[01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:24.880]  And then I sent him, but I didn't send it with a green card, a complaint against the FBI SAC,
[01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:27.880]  which has never materialized into anything.
[01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:31.880]  Then you need to send him one with a green card.
[01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:37.880]  If you send one without a green card, you can't prove you sent it and you don't have a stamp on it.
[01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:42.880]  It's certified and I've got proof of delivery through the post office.
[01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:44.880]  That's good enough.
[01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:45.880]  Yeah.
[01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:46.880]  Then that'll work.
[01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:47.880]  Okay.
[01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:50.880]  If you have proof of delivery, but it's always better if you have a green card.
[01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:51.880]  Yeah.
[01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:58.880]  I did the green card for the grand jury foreman because I actually sent it registered restricted.
[01:25:58.880 --> 01:25:59.880]  Whoa.
[01:25:59.880 --> 01:26:00.880]  Oh, perfect.
[01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.880]  Oh, you did that right.
[01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:04.880]  Yeah.
[01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:14.880]  But the complaint I sent to the U.S. Attorney about the FBI SAC, I just sent it certified.
[01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:15.880]  Okay.
[01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:22.880]  And so now I'm going to do a complaint to the grand jury for U.S. Attorney.
[01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:31.880]  But back to my question, what did he do that I know he didn't report it to the Attorney General, right?
[01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:35.880]  So we've got him on 28 USC 535.
[01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:36.880]  Yes.
[01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:37.880]  Okay.
[01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:45.880]  And can I also say witness tampering, you know, 18 USC 1512 is a...
[01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:53.880]  No, I think that would go to obstruction because he didn't threaten you.
[01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:54.880]  Yeah.
[01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:55.880]  Right.
[01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:58.880]  But he secreted these complaints from the grand jury.
[01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:01.880]  That's going to go to tampering with a government document.
[01:27:01.880 --> 01:27:06.880]  But he also did it in order to shield the accused from prosecution.
[01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:13.880]  Now, in Texas, we have 3805 Penal Code, which is shielding from prosecution.
[01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:19.880]  I haven't seen that particular statute worded that way in the Fed.
[01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:21.880]  But I have seen official misconduct.
[01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:26.880]  I don't have it memorized, but the Fed does have an official misconduct.
[01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:31.880]  I mean, not official misconduct, obstruction of justice charge.
[01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:35.880]  Yeah, and there's a lot of things that fall under obstruction of justice.
[01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:41.880]  And tampering with a witness or victim or informant is one of those.
[01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:48.880]  Well, witness tampering, well, Texas has a specific statute for witness tampering.
[01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:55.880]  You've got 3605, 3606, 3605 witness tampering, 3606 obstruction.
[01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:57.880]  So they're right next to each other.
[01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:01.880]  And the Feds may have them coupled together.
[01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:06.880]  But obstruction, you're definitely going to get him in there.
[01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:13.880]  And the thing I like about the green card is you've got some probably
[01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:20.880]  minimum wage chump working in the mail room who don't know anything,
[01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:24.880]  and you go after him.
[01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:27.880]  Well, he's going to scream bloody murder.
[01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:33.880]  Somebody's going to have to step up and bite this bullet.
[01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:38.880]  And that's why I really like to go in after the guy who's absolutely innocent,
[01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:42.880]  because then they get to rail in righteous indignation.
[01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:50.880]  And those who put him in that position have to stand up and take him off that dime
[01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:56.880]  and throw themselves under the bus at the same time.
[01:28:56.880 --> 01:29:01.880]  There's just something intuitively satisfying about that.
[01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:03.880]  It's kind of like bar grievances.
[01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:08.880]  They have to tell their insurance carrier that they got it.
[01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:10.880]  So they have to tell on themselves.
[01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:16.880]  There's just something intuitively satisfying about that.
[01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:21.880]  So I've got one more issue, and then I'll let you get on to the next call.
[01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:22.880]  Okay, hang on.
[01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:25.880]  We're getting close to break, and we'll pick that issue up on the other side.
[01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:27.880]  Well, Ben, I see you there.
[01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:28.880]  We will get to you.
[01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:30.880]  We'll finish up with Don on the other side.
[01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:31.880]  Then we'll go to you.
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[01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:38.880]  Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens,
[01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:41.880]  and we're talking to Don in New Mexico.
[01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:45.880]  Okay, Don, you had one more issue.
[01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:49.880]  Yeah, things have been quiet on my end until today.
[01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:59.880]  I got a letter telling me that they set up a date to auction off my house in May down at the IRS office.
[01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:12.880]  And I was wondering if there was anyone in your universe that could talk to me about actual experience or how to deal with that event.
[01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:22.880]  There's one person I know that has made my personal knowledge the most knowledgeable human being about IRS.
[01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:25.880]  And his name is Barry Watson.
[01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:30.880]  He was a 20-year Los Angeles police officer.
[01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:37.880]  And now he is a country-western singer.
[01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:46.880]  He is my trust guy and also the most knowledgeable person I know about IRS.
[01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:52.880]  If you will send me an email, I will forward it to Barry and get him to call you.
[01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:57.880]  If he's not out singing Hillbilly songs.
[01:34:57.880 --> 01:34:58.880]  Okay.
[01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:03.880]  He is one of the nicest human beings I think I've ever met.
[01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:07.880]  Awesome. I will do that.
[01:35:07.880 --> 01:35:10.880]  Okay, I will get it to him. I haven't talked to him in a long time.
[01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:13.880]  I need a reason to get a hold of him. I'd like to get him back on the show.
[01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.880]  It's been quite a while.
[01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:20.880]  But he's good people.
[01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:28.880]  I'd appreciate it because despite having the lie on my side and doing the criminal complaints,
[01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:31.880]  it looks like they're barreling forward.
[01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:40.880]  You might petition for a writ of mandamus or a petition for a restraining order.
[01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:42.880]  Okay.
[01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:44.880]  And you might send him a tort letter.
[01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:46.880]  A restraining order to New Mexico.
[01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:58.880]  The case that opened the door to suing public officials was about IRS agents.
[01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:06.880]  So you might send him a tort letter. It might get their attention.
[01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:07.880]  Okay.
[01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:09.880]  Okay. Thank you, Don.
[01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:11.880]  Thank you, Randy.
[01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:14.880]  Okay. Now we're going to go to Ben in Texas.
[01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:17.880]  Hello, Ben. What do you have for us today?
[01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:20.880]  Good evening to you, Randy.
[01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:27.880]  Mr. Kelton, I caught a part of your radio show one evening and just right at the end of it,
[01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:34.880]  you had mentioned something about to somebody that they were talking about paying property taxes on their home.
[01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:40.880]  And they said, well, you mentioned that that's not something that should be done.
[01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:46.880]  It's because of the property being set up in the wrong classification
[01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:53.880]  and they need to go down somewhere and reclassify that and then no property taxes would be.
[01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:56.880]  Okay.
[01:36:56.880 --> 01:37:02.880]  This is not my area of expertise, but from what I know of this subject,
[01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:15.880]  send a letter to the tax assessor collector and ask if the county or the state has a claim against your property.
[01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:23.880]  And if you're not in a rear zone taxes, they're going to send you back a letter saying we have no claim.
[01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:32.880]  Then you send them another letter and ask that your property could be put on the private tax rolls.
[01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:41.880]  And that takes you off the public tax rolls where you actually have to pay property tax.
[01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:43.880]  However.
[01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:47.880]  Have you known anybody in Travis County area that's done this?
[01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:52.880]  No, I haven't. And they're going to fight you tooth and nail.
[01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:54.880]  I can imagine.
[01:37:54.880 --> 01:38:03.880]  But on the other side of this, if you stop paying property taxes,
[01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:12.880]  then you can no longer expect police protection or fire protection.
[01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:21.880]  You'd have to contract with them privately if you can get taken off the tax rolls.
[01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:26.880]  So it has a backside.
[01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:28.880]  Okay.
[01:38:28.880 --> 01:38:31.880]  Well, that makes sense.
[01:38:31.880 --> 01:38:36.880]  But to go in and think that we can get dismissed from paying taxes, huh?
[01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:39.880]  Yeah. Well, we enjoy these services.
[01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:41.880]  I was confused by it.
[01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:44.880]  We enjoy the services that are provided by the taxes.
[01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:51.880]  So if we get off the tax rolls, we don't have a right to them.
[01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:59.880]  And I don't like taxes, but to get out from underpaying taxes,
[01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:04.880]  sometimes people don't realize that there are consequences.
[01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:11.880]  If you've got a piece of property out in the middle of nowhere that's unimproved, who cares?
[01:39:11.880 --> 01:39:22.880]  I've read an article in the local paper that said 800 acres destroyed by fire.
[01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:27.880]  And I thought, how do you destroy dirt?
[01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:40.880]  So if you've got unimproved property, you don't need fire.
[01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:42.880]  Did I lose you?
[01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:44.880]  I think it's done.
[01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:46.880]  Thank you, Randy.
[01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:55.880]  Have a good evening.
[01:39:55.880 --> 01:40:17.880]  Yeah, a story for everyone to hear about how we're not going to give in to fear.
[01:40:17.880 --> 01:40:28.880]  I will live by my father's house until he returns.
[01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:38.880]  He has me with his faith and with God, I will aid with my concern.
[01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:49.880]  Yeah, I will live by my father's house until I see his face.
[01:40:49.880 --> 01:41:00.880]  I will guard these walls infected, they come to take his place.
[01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:08.880]  Like a thief in the night, I saw the father enter, kiss all the parrots right from around here.
[01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.880]  Deep in blood, I see the murderer, kiss him up the nose because they cannot enter.
[01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:15.880]  Pure in heart, that cleans hands only.
[01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:18.880]  Only them could enter in God's house, you see.
[01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:20.880]  See a few souls surrender quickly.
[01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:21.880]  That's what you're doing.
[01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:27.880]  I will live by my father's house.
[01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:33.880]  I will live by my father's house.
[01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:35.880]  Okay, sorry folks, we're back.
[01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:41.880]  I had a little internet crash there, so I had to call back in on the cell phone.
[01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:43.880]  So, I apologize for that.
[01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:52.880]  Okay, where were we?
[01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:54.880]  Oh, okay, we lost the last caller.
[01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:55.880]  Okay.
[01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:56.880]  Hello, Randy?
[01:41:56.880 --> 01:42:00.880]  Okay, Deb, I can't unmute or anything.
[01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:03.880]  Okay, Randy, you there?
[01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:04.880]  Yes, I'm here.
[01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:05.880]  How are you doing?
[01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:07.880]  I'm doing good.
[01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:08.880]  Well, a bit better.
[01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:11.880]  My internet just crashed on me.
[01:42:11.880 --> 01:42:14.880]  Other than that, I'm doing okay.
[01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:16.880]  Yeah, well.
[01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:22.880]  Okay, if you hear the bumper music, you got to let me know because I can never hear it.
[01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:23.880]  And I don't have my...
[01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:24.880]  Sure.
[01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:26.880]  I don't have a clock timer up, I don't have it up.
[01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:29.880]  Okay, what do you have for us today?
[01:42:29.880 --> 01:42:31.880]  Well, I want to give you an update.
[01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:39.880]  The last time I talked with you, I had sent a judicial notice to the third court of appeal,
[01:42:39.880 --> 01:42:48.880]  giving them a timeline on this court-appointed attorney who has not done anything but undermined
[01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:51.880]  and sabotaged me in district court.
[01:42:51.880 --> 01:42:58.880]  And they had sent notices to this attorney, the third court of appeal, asking him to respond
[01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:09.880]  to some requests regarding, you know, if I qualified as a person who's destitute and
[01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:11.880]  he didn't respond.
[01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:14.880]  This has went on for months.
[01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:19.880]  So now we're up to this point.
[01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:25.880]  They responded the way you told me they wouldn't respond.
[01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:27.880]  You said that they probably...
[01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:36.880]  I was probably asking them, in this case, to sanction the attorney, and there's the bumper music.
[01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:38.880]  Okay.
[01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:39.880]  Thank you.
[01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:41.880]  This is Randy Kaltenberger-Steven.
[01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:42.880]  We have our radio.
[01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:43.880]  I call it number five.
[01:43:43.880 --> 01:43:45.880]  I'm going to have to call it number...
[01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:48.880]  We've only got one segment left.
[01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:51.880]  Okay, Randy Kaltenberger-Steven, we'll be right back.
[01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:20.880]  Thank you.
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[01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:27.880]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
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[01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:10.880]  Okay, we are back.
[01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:15.880]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Rodney in Texas.
[01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:17.880]  Okay, Rodney, where were we?
[01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:22.880]  We're having a little technical difficulty here, so we had a busy break.
[01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:33.880]  Well, anyway, like I said, that judicial notice that I sent to the third court appeal basically lying out the fact
[01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:42.880]  that my attorney had not done anything since he had been appointed, and it created a stir.
[01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:48.880]  Basically, they reacted exactly the way you said they would react.
[01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:55.880]  They sent me a notice saying that they weren't sure if they had jurisdiction,
[01:47:55.880 --> 01:48:03.880]  and they sent a notice to my attorney, who hasn't done anything for me, saying,
[01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:10.880]  why haven't you responded, and we'd like for you to tell us where we have jurisdiction in this matter?
[01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:14.880]  Well, the attorney still hasn't responded.
[01:48:14.880 --> 01:48:21.880]  Wait a minute, who did you send this to?
[01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:25.880]  The judicial notice.
[01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:27.880]  Okay, this was the court.
[01:48:27.880 --> 01:48:31.880]  Okay, did you file a bar grievance against the lawyer?
[01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:33.880]  I've already filed a bar grievance.
[01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:35.880]  I haven't heard anything back.
[01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:37.880]  Oh, okay.
[01:48:37.880 --> 01:48:38.880]  Okay.
[01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:40.880]  Okay, good, good, then you've got the court.
[01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:47.880]  So you've got the bar, how long ago did you file the bar grievance?
[01:48:47.880 --> 01:48:52.880]  Well, the last time I talked was, it's been about 10 days ago.
[01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:57.880]  Oh, okay, so they may still respond.
[01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:00.880]  They're going to tell you that we examined into your accusation,
[01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:05.880]  find it does not rise to the level of misconduct, but that's going to sting his insurance.
[01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:09.880]  Now you might want to send him a tort letter.
[01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:11.880]  Yeah, I'm in the process of doing that.
[01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:19.880]  I found the sample tort letter and added a few words that you suggested.
[01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:26.880]  But I just want to point out that this judicial notice that I sent to the third court of appeal,
[01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:33.880]  they forwarded a copy of that to this district judge who appointed this attorney.
[01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:47.880]  And what she did in response to it was basically dismiss my case for want of prosecution.
[01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:51.880]  Well, that worked.
[01:49:51.880 --> 01:49:54.880]  Oh, wait a minute, hold on.
[01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:55.880]  Wait, hold on.
[01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:57.880]  Are you the plaintiff?
[01:49:57.880 --> 01:49:59.880]  I am the plaintiff.
[01:49:59.880 --> 01:50:02.880]  Oh, perfect.
[01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:06.880]  So now you get to sue your lawyer.
[01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:14.880]  Well, but in addition to her, the judge dismissing my case for want of prosecution,
[01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:21.880]  she puts in there, we're going to make me, the plaintiff, who she already knows is destitute
[01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:26.880]  and can't afford court costs, pay court costs.
[01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:30.880]  So this is retaliation too.
[01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:39.880]  Okay, it goes to my adage, never interfere with somebody when they're screwing up.
[01:50:39.880 --> 01:50:44.880]  So now you do a judicial conduct complaint against the judge and go down,
[01:50:44.880 --> 01:51:04.880]  make up a 36-06 complaint retaliation against the judge and file it with the local grand jury.
[01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:08.880]  Now, it's not going to get to the grand jury,
[01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:16.880]  but there's going to be a lot of dancing and tiptoeing in the process and a lot of questions asked.
[01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:21.880]  You're going to create a lot of political feedback for this judge.
[01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:28.880]  Well, my case, I still haven't gotten, this all started in my written mandamus.
[01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:29.880]  Okay, hold on.
[01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:35.880]  Did they dismiss the prejudice?
[01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:39.880]  All it said was just dismiss for want of prosecution.
[01:51:39.880 --> 01:51:40.880]  Okay.
[01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:44.880]  Yeah, did you just refile?
[01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:52.880]  Was the want of prosecution because of your lawyer?
[01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:55.880]  It didn't say, it just said that...
[01:51:55.880 --> 01:51:58.880]  No, no, no, I'm saying to you.
[01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:00.880]  Did your lawyer, did your lawyer...
[01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:03.880]  Oh, yes, of course, yes, all of this.
[01:52:03.880 --> 01:52:06.880]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:17.880]  Now you refile and name your lawyer as a litigant or sue your lawyer separately for malpractice.
[01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:21.880]  The dismissal of your case is the harm.
[01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:36.880]  So you sue your lawyer for, okay, the case that you filed, was it a declaratory judgment case or did you ask for a recovery?
[01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:44.880]  I was asking for a recovery, but so much...
[01:52:44.880 --> 01:52:45.880]  Well, go ahead.
[01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:46.880]  Go ahead.
[01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:48.880]  I don't want to get sidetracked here.
[01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:59.880]  Whatever you didn't receive in recovery in the case, you get to sue your lawyer for.
[01:52:59.880 --> 01:53:03.880]  So you file a malpractice suit against him.
[01:53:03.880 --> 01:53:11.880]  Then you can turn right around and refile the original suit.
[01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:16.880]  So now you've got two people you can collect from separately.
[01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:20.880]  Let me jump in here and ask you this question.
[01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:27.880]  I did a little research for what case is being dismissed for warrant of prosecution,
[01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:37.880]  and it said that a person in the state of Texas has up to a year to ask for the case to be reinstated.
[01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:48.880]  Okay, so, but I actually want to have the case removed from district court and have it removed to federal court.
[01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:51.880]  Too late.
[01:53:51.880 --> 01:53:52.880]  You're the plaintiff.
[01:53:52.880 --> 01:53:55.880]  You can't do that.
[01:53:55.880 --> 01:54:07.880]  What you can do is instead of asking them to revive the case, you just refile it in the federal initially.
[01:54:07.880 --> 01:54:12.880]  If you're the plaintiff, you can't remove it.
[01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:17.880]  Only a defendant can remove it.
[01:54:17.880 --> 01:54:18.880]  You filed the suit.
[01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:22.880]  You chose your venue.
[01:54:22.880 --> 01:54:27.880]  But since they dismissed it, now you can go back and file an offense.
[01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:29.880]  Does that make sense?
[01:54:29.880 --> 01:54:32.880]  Yes.
[01:54:32.880 --> 01:54:35.880]  So did I do you a favor?
[01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:39.880]  I definitely did because now you get to sue the lawyer.
[01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:46.880]  The dismissal makes the malpractice by the lawyer a done deal.
[01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:50.880]  The dismissal was the harm.
[01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:56.880]  The fact that you can go back and refile is irrelevant.
[01:54:56.880 --> 01:55:01.880]  You filed and you had a right to the benefit of that bargain.
[01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:07.880]  And your lawyer failed to perform and cost you the benefit of that bargain.
[01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:11.880]  You get to sue him for the full amount.
[01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:14.880]  And then you get to go back and file against these other folks.
[01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:20.880]  Now you get to file in the bed and sue for the same amount of harm that you sued for in the first place.
[01:55:20.880 --> 01:55:22.880]  Does that make sense?
[01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:23.880]  Yes.
[01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:33.880]  I also want to ask now, this judge has, in her order, ordered me to pay these court costs.
[01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:41.880]  And I read in the newspaper that nationwide, destitute people being thrown in what they call debtor's prison,
[01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:46.880]  being thrown in prison because they can't afford to pay these court costs.
[01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:47.880]  I don't want to go to jail.
[01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:50.880]  I've never went to jail before.
[01:55:50.880 --> 01:55:58.880]  I don't want to go to jail because I can't pay a fee that has been exposed.
[01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:02.880]  I call it ex post facto, tact on after the fact.
[01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:10.880]  And like I said, to me, it's got the smell of pure retaliation because this judge clearly knows
[01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:12.880]  that I couldn't afford the costs.
[01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:17.880]  And that's why she appointed this attorney to begin with.
[01:56:17.880 --> 01:56:18.880]  Okay.
[01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:30.880]  The only ones who go to jail for not paying court costs are the ones who don't know anything about how to defend their rights.
[01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:31.880]  Okay.
[01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:34.880]  This is the guy who gets the pleadings and he doesn't know what to do.
[01:56:34.880 --> 01:56:38.880]  And he just pretends like they're not there and then they come after him.
[01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:44.880]  When you go back after them, you're not going to jail over some chump change court costs.
[01:56:44.880 --> 01:56:45.880]  Right.
[01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:50.880]  Especially scared if you're going after the judge for retaliation.
[01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:51.880]  Right.
[01:56:51.880 --> 01:56:52.880]  Yeah.
[01:56:52.880 --> 01:57:00.880]  So I kind of figured that this might be a scare tactic, but I always like to listen to this little voice called Randy Kelton,
[01:57:00.880 --> 01:57:11.880]  you know, that helps me to keep my focus here because these people, and I'm talking about these lawyers and these judges,
[01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:14.880]  they're all working hand in hand.
[01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:20.880]  And, you know, I told this marriage when she first appointed this attorney, I said,
[01:57:20.880 --> 01:57:24.880]  I have some concern about these constraints that you're placing on.
[01:57:24.880 --> 01:57:27.880]  She said, oh, no, no, no, I'm not doing that to you.
[01:57:27.880 --> 01:57:39.880]  I'm not placing any constraint, but she turns right around after the third court of appeals sent her this judicial notice that I submitted.
[01:57:39.880 --> 01:57:49.880]  And it basically exposed this attorney that she appointed for me as being a bum, excuse me.
[01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:59.880]  And so what she does is she retaliates against me for complaining and tells me, in addition, we're going to dismiss your case.
[01:57:59.880 --> 01:58:03.880]  And there's the music playing there.
[01:58:03.880 --> 01:58:04.880]  Okay.
[01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:06.880]  We are out of time.
[01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:08.880]  Can you call back in tomorrow night?
[01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:11.880]  Because I'd like to talk about this a little more.
[01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:13.880]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens.
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