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[00:55.000 --> 01:04.000] Today in history, in recent news, BitTorrent announced a live streaming TV news network [01:04.000 --> 01:08.000] today, which is scheduled to launch next week during the Republican National Convention. [01:08.000 --> 01:13.000] With BitTorrent TV being announced not too long ago, this new project, BitTorrent News, seeks to disrupt [01:13.000 --> 01:18.000] and exploit the weaknesses in traditional cable news networks in order to attract viewers. [01:18.000 --> 01:23.000] Eric Schwartz, vice president of media for BitTorrent, said in a statement that, quote, [01:23.000 --> 01:26.000] television news has been staggering for some time now. [01:26.000 --> 01:29.000] It's having trouble appealing to a generation that grew up online. [01:29.000 --> 01:32.000] We're building BitTorrent News to solve that problem. [01:32.000 --> 01:38.000] We're using superior data and tools and the Silicon Valley ethos of lean startup to hold a nimble [01:38.000 --> 01:41.000] news organization that will learn quickly from the user's behavior. [01:41.000 --> 01:45.000] And though they were seeking to be a thorn in the side of the mainstream, BitTorrent did announce [01:45.000 --> 01:51.000] last week that former CNN journalist Harrison Bormann will serve as news director for BitTorrent News. [01:51.000 --> 01:55.000] It is set to launch covering the Republican National Convention next week and will be focusing on [01:55.000 --> 01:57.000] commentary of the delegates' speeches. [01:57.000 --> 02:01.000] The schedule consists of a daily 10- to 12-hour live coverage, and the app will be available through [02:01.000 --> 02:06.000] their service BitTorrent Live, which is available on Apple TV at Groupon. [02:10.000 --> 02:17.000] A man in his 20s armed with an AK-47 entered a Waffle House in DeSoto, Texas at 2.30 a.m. on July 7. [02:17.000 --> 02:21.000] After robbing several of the customers and walking out of the diner, a customer followed him [02:21.000 --> 02:22.000] and attempted to stop him. [02:22.000 --> 02:26.000] The customer then called out the robber who turned and pointed the rifle at him. [02:26.000 --> 02:30.000] But before he could even realize it, the customer had fired several shots from his concealed handgun. [02:30.000 --> 02:35.000] The robber was transported to a local hospital where he remains in critical condition and on life support. [02:35.000 --> 02:40.000] Luckily, the vigilante had a Texas handgun license to carry, which allows a licensee to carry a [02:40.000 --> 02:45.000] handgun concealed or openly in a wide array of conditions and locations. [02:45.000 --> 02:48.000] The Lone Star Lowdown is created for sponsors. [02:48.000 --> 02:51.000] If you have a product or a service you'd like to advertise with us, feel free to give me a call at [02:51.000 --> 02:55.000] 210-363-2257. [02:55.000 --> 03:23.000] This is Rick Rhodey with your Lowdown for July 13, 2016. [03:25.000 --> 03:30.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:30.000 --> 03:33.000] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:33.000 --> 03:36.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:36.000 --> 03:37.000] Whatcha gonna do? [03:37.000 --> 03:38.000] Okay. [03:38.000 --> 03:39.000] Howdy, howdy. [03:39.000 --> 03:45.000] This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rural Radio on this Thursday, the 28th day of July [03:45.000 --> 03:46.000] 2016. [03:46.000 --> 03:57.000] And today we're gonna start out by talking about auditing lawyers. [03:57.000 --> 04:03.000] This is something I've been toying with the idea of for a long time. [04:03.000 --> 04:12.000] I have this primary purpose, a well-defined ultimate outcome. [04:12.000 --> 04:19.000] And that ultimate outcome is it is my intent to place every judge in the country in a position [04:19.000 --> 04:26.000] such that when he steps up behind the bench and looks out across the bar at the gallery, [04:26.000 --> 04:31.000] I want him wondering which one, which one of those scoundrels is sitting out there waiting [04:31.000 --> 04:36.000] for me to render a ruling so he can run down, try to get me arrested or removed from the [04:36.000 --> 04:37.000] bench. [04:37.000 --> 04:38.000] Okay. [04:38.000 --> 04:42.000] That's my intended ultimate outcome. [04:42.000 --> 04:50.000] So, we've been trying a number of methods and we demonstrate a number of methods to [04:50.000 --> 04:52.000] go after public officials. [04:52.000 --> 05:00.000] And while I go after intermediate officials, my ultimate goal is to sting the judge. [05:00.000 --> 05:09.000] But in getting there, some other things have presented themselves as very important. [05:09.000 --> 05:13.000] Just about everybody complains about their lawyers. [05:13.000 --> 05:21.000] And I have for quite a while been considering putting together a lawyer auditing service, [05:21.000 --> 05:25.000] or a case auditing service. [05:25.000 --> 05:29.000] We've essentially been doing that on the air for quite a while. [05:29.000 --> 05:34.000] And the network needs some funding. [05:34.000 --> 05:43.000] And rather than ask you to donate directly to the network, since this is what the network, [05:43.000 --> 05:57.000] what this part of the network is doing anyway, I would like to propose an auditing service. [05:57.000 --> 06:05.000] If you have a case and you are going to hire a lawyer, send us the case. [06:05.000 --> 06:11.000] We'll go over the, we will help you develop, let me step back one step. [06:11.000 --> 06:15.000] I'm putting together a paralegal service. [06:15.000 --> 06:22.000] A paralegal service where we develop documents for people who can't afford lawyers or don't [06:22.000 --> 06:25.000] trust lawyers not to throw them under the bus. [06:25.000 --> 06:27.000] And lawyers will throw you under the bus. [06:27.000 --> 06:28.000] I'll get to that in a minute. [06:28.000 --> 06:32.000] We'll explain why lawyers will throw you under the bus. [06:32.000 --> 06:39.000] But if you don't trust a lawyer, but you need one, say you have a small company. [06:39.000 --> 06:45.000] And if you have a company that's a legal fiction, a legal fiction has to be represented by a lawyer. [06:45.000 --> 06:49.000] But if you hire a lawyer, he's going to go in there, he's going to get your retainer, [06:49.000 --> 06:52.000] he's going to use it up, and he's going to throw you under the bus. [06:52.000 --> 06:54.000] So what do we do? [06:54.000 --> 07:08.000] How do we get into the courts in a way that we begin to fix this problem at a grassroots level? [07:08.000 --> 07:13.000] And I look at these lawyers, I watch these advertisements on TV. [07:13.000 --> 07:20.000] They said, if you use bacon, talcum powder, call us, we're going to sue the manufacturer. [07:20.000 --> 07:26.000] If you breathe the air, call us, we're going to sue the manufacturer, we're going to sue God. [07:26.000 --> 07:30.000] He made this bad air, we're going to sue, they sue everybody. [07:30.000 --> 07:33.000] The first thing the lawyer does is look for deep pockets. [07:33.000 --> 07:36.000] He don't care if he's got deep pockets. [07:36.000 --> 07:37.000] He'll sue anybody. [07:37.000 --> 07:46.000] He don't care because litigation costs a fortune and lawyers have structured it that way. [07:46.000 --> 07:49.000] They want litigation to cost a fortune. [07:49.000 --> 08:00.000] If I get time between callers, I'll explain why lawyers do not want to litigate your case. [08:00.000 --> 08:06.000] They do not want to go in there and play Perry Mason. [08:06.000 --> 08:12.000] Lawyers, it's not just that they're terrified of judges. [08:12.000 --> 08:20.000] They make more money getting your retainer and using up your retainer than they do actually adjudicating your case. [08:20.000 --> 08:30.000] But in order to combat this as a way to change the perspective of the lawyer, [08:30.000 --> 08:34.000] you know, we talk about everything being political. [08:34.000 --> 08:40.000] You never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side, [08:40.000 --> 08:43.000] because everything's political. [08:43.000 --> 08:50.000] So looking at lawyers throwing their clients under the bus, that's all political. [08:50.000 --> 08:55.000] So how do we get into the politics of the situation? [08:55.000 --> 09:00.000] The lawyer, he wants to make a lot of money. [09:00.000 --> 09:01.000] He's in business. [09:01.000 --> 09:04.000] He's a professional and he's in business to make money. [09:04.000 --> 09:10.000] He is not Perry Mason, he's not in business to actively adjudicate every issue in your case. [09:10.000 --> 09:12.000] He don't care about that. [09:12.000 --> 09:20.000] He's in business to make money, and the best way he can make money is by getting a retainer from you. [09:20.000 --> 09:26.000] He's going to feed you this song and dance and seltzer down your pants and tell you about this. [09:26.000 --> 09:33.000] What a great case you got and how we absolutely can win this case, no problem. [09:33.000 --> 09:41.000] Just give me a $3,000 or $5,000 or $10,000 retainer and I will get right on it. [09:41.000 --> 09:53.000] Well, in every case, there are a number of motions and pleadings that will almost always be filed. [09:53.000 --> 09:57.000] A Rule 12 motion to dismiss if it's federal. [09:57.000 --> 09:59.000] They always file that. [09:59.000 --> 10:04.000] A motions for discovery, motion in limiting. [10:04.000 --> 10:09.000] There's just a whole stack of motions that are standard motions. [10:09.000 --> 10:12.000] So they get your retainer and they start filing these motions. [10:12.000 --> 10:18.000] Well, they charge you for generating each one of those motions. [10:18.000 --> 10:26.000] When in fact, they just go to their file and pull it out and just put your name in the blank spaces and file it. [10:26.000 --> 10:31.000] Then they're going to get a response from the other side that they're going to have to answer. [10:31.000 --> 10:41.000] Well, folks, they're going to get a response that they got a hundred times because both the lawyers are doing the same thing. [10:41.000 --> 10:44.000] The one lawyer pulls out the standard motion. [10:44.000 --> 10:53.000] The other lawyer pulls out the standard response and counterclaim and then your lawyer comes back with an answer to the counterclaim [10:53.000 --> 10:59.000] and back and forth and back and forth until they use up your retainer. [10:59.000 --> 11:06.000] Once they use up your retainer, then all of a sudden, you're not so likely to win this case anymore. [11:06.000 --> 11:10.000] All of a sudden, your lawyer changes his tune dramatically. [11:10.000 --> 11:12.000] And this is really going to be hard. [11:12.000 --> 11:15.000] We're going to have to do this and that and the other. [11:15.000 --> 11:22.000] And instead of a three thousand dollar retainer, now I want a ten thousand dollar retainer. [11:22.000 --> 11:27.000] In fact, he does not want a ten thousand dollar retainer. [11:27.000 --> 11:38.000] He wants you to walk away because once he's filed all his standard stuff that all he has to do is fill in the blanks, [11:38.000 --> 11:42.000] both sides back and forth and use up each of their clients retainers. [11:42.000 --> 11:46.000] Now they want this case to go away and they want to go to the next one. [11:46.000 --> 11:57.000] They don't make as much money actively adjudicating cases as they do getting a retainer and doing all the preliminary garbage. [11:57.000 --> 12:00.000] So they're going to use up your retainer. [12:00.000 --> 12:02.000] Then they're going to come back for a big retainer. [12:02.000 --> 12:04.000] They don't want you to pay. [12:04.000 --> 12:07.000] They want you to go away and leave them alone. [12:07.000 --> 12:11.000] In order to get there, they're going to throw you under the bus. [12:11.000 --> 12:17.000] And we have all kinds of horror stories of people's lawyers throwing them under the bus. [12:17.000 --> 12:21.000] Well, how do we fix this? [12:21.000 --> 12:28.000] How do we get judges afraid of litigants so that the judges do their job right? [12:28.000 --> 12:35.000] Well, one way is to file judicial conduct complaints against the judges and it has a certain effect, [12:35.000 --> 12:46.000] but it won't be near as powerful as suing lawyers for malpractice, suing your own attorney, [12:46.000 --> 12:50.000] bar grieving your own attorney while he's still adjudicating your case. [12:50.000 --> 12:55.000] And when he goes to the judge and asked to be removed from the case, you object to it. [12:55.000 --> 13:06.000] We had a judge recently tell a woman, well, Mr. Ortiz, if you can't get along with your lawyer, why do you want him representing your case? [13:06.000 --> 13:10.000] She said, I paid him. He's under contract. [13:10.000 --> 13:12.000] I don't have to like him. It doesn't make any difference. [13:12.000 --> 13:15.000] He's got a job to do. [13:15.000 --> 13:30.000] Well, they are so accustomed to running this routine on you that they've got absolutely, incredibly outrageous. [13:30.000 --> 13:39.000] I hear so many stories of lawyers storing clients under the bus and so far we've really done nothing about it. [13:39.000 --> 13:42.000] We need to get after that. [13:42.000 --> 13:49.000] When you go to a lawyer and bring a case to him, the first thing he's going to do is look around for deep pockets. [13:49.000 --> 13:55.000] Who has a deep pocket that I can get into? [13:55.000 --> 14:02.000] And if he thinks he can get into the deep pocket, if he really thinks he can get into the deep pocket, [14:02.000 --> 14:11.000] he will take your case on commission based on a percentage of what he gets for you. [14:11.000 --> 14:17.000] But if he doesn't do that and he asks for a retainer, that's because he don't think he can win the case. [14:17.000 --> 14:19.000] And he's not going to try to win the case. [14:19.000 --> 14:23.000] He's just going to use up your retainer because that's how he makes his money. [14:23.000 --> 14:27.000] He makes the most money getting retainers. [14:27.000 --> 14:32.000] Once he's got your retainer, you're never going to get a penny of it back. [14:32.000 --> 14:38.000] Whether he does anything or not, once you put some money in a lawyer's hand, you're not going to get it back. [14:38.000 --> 14:41.000] So he wants your retainer. [14:41.000 --> 14:48.000] Once he's got your retainer, he's got his paralegals over there just spitting out these motions that he normally spits out, [14:48.000 --> 14:51.000] and he's going to go back to trying to get more retainers. [14:51.000 --> 14:53.000] That's where he makes his money. [14:53.000 --> 14:58.000] So when we look at deep pockets, who has deep pockets? [14:58.000 --> 15:04.000] Well, the lawyer's got deep pockets because he's got malpractice insurance. [15:04.000 --> 15:14.000] If your lawyer fails to adequately adjudicate your case, he sues the lawyer, sues his errors in admissions policy. [15:14.000 --> 15:19.000] Oh, yeah, it'll sting the lawyer big time, but who cares? [15:19.000 --> 15:23.000] That's what he gets for doing the calculation. [15:23.000 --> 15:30.000] He did a calculation that said, it's more profitable for me to throw my client under the bus [15:30.000 --> 15:34.000] than it is for me to actively adjudicate his case. [15:34.000 --> 15:41.000] So we need to find a way to change that calculation. [15:41.000 --> 15:45.000] So we're putting together a lawyer audit service. [15:45.000 --> 15:54.000] And the output of the evaluations we will do will be a malpractice suit against the lawyer. [15:54.000 --> 15:58.000] Just sign it, send it. [15:58.000 --> 16:08.000] Then unlike if you're suing a litigant normally, you know, they're going to fight you back and forth. [16:08.000 --> 16:14.000] But when you sue the lawyer, you essentially sue against his insurance policy. [16:14.000 --> 16:20.000] So the lawyer doesn't have all the say in the situation the insurance company does. [16:20.000 --> 16:27.000] And they don't care if the lawyer loses, if the lawyer gets his reputation solid. [16:27.000 --> 16:29.000] They don't care about that. [16:29.000 --> 16:38.000] They care about, is it cheaper for us to fight this or just settle with this guy and go about our business? [16:38.000 --> 16:42.000] We can change the calculation dramatically. [16:42.000 --> 16:44.000] Hang on, Jeff, I see you there. [16:44.000 --> 16:45.000] We'll pick you up on the other side. [16:45.000 --> 16:49.000] This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. [16:49.000 --> 16:53.000] I call it number 512-646-1984. [16:53.000 --> 17:00.000] We'll be right back. 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[19:47.000 --> 19:52.000] Lawyers are terrified of judges. [19:52.000 --> 19:58.000] It's not just that they don't want to adjudicate your case. [19:58.000 --> 20:04.000] They're terrified of judges. They walk into the courtroom, they are dangling by their bar card. [20:04.000 --> 20:09.000] And they know they are precariously dangling by their bar card. [20:09.000 --> 20:11.000] They're terrified of those judges. [20:11.000 --> 20:15.000] You, on the other hand, you don't have to be afraid of them at all. [20:15.000 --> 20:20.000] Because you can expect the judge to rule against you out of hand at every turn. [20:20.000 --> 20:24.000] Okay, maybe he won't, but if he doesn't, that's a present. [20:24.000 --> 20:30.000] So your only purpose in the trial court anyway is to get the facts of the law on the record. [20:30.000 --> 20:38.000] So with a good audit of the case, you've got a deep pocket you can get into. [20:38.000 --> 20:45.000] If the lawyer doesn't actively adjudicate your case, then you can sue the lawyer [20:45.000 --> 20:50.000] for what you maintain you lost because the lawyer didn't do his job right. [20:50.000 --> 20:59.000] So you've got another way of winning the case rather than getting the judge to rule in your favor. [20:59.000 --> 21:01.000] So anyway, it's a calculation. [21:01.000 --> 21:04.000] It's a different way to go after these guys. [21:04.000 --> 21:08.000] And if we get the lawyer more afraid of the client than they are the judge, [21:08.000 --> 21:11.000] they may actually start doing their jobs. [21:11.000 --> 21:14.000] Okay, we're going to go to Jeff in Mississippi. [21:14.000 --> 21:16.000] Hello, Jeff. [21:16.000 --> 21:17.000] Hey, Randy. [21:17.000 --> 21:18.000] Thanks for having me on. [21:18.000 --> 21:19.000] You're welcome. [21:19.000 --> 21:22.000] What do you have for us today? [21:22.000 --> 21:23.000] Okay. [21:23.000 --> 21:33.000] Well, to recap for our listeners, I had a criminal case that I lost and am now on appeal. [21:33.000 --> 21:35.000] And that is still pending. [21:35.000 --> 21:41.000] And then I have two civil cases, federal civil cases in which I turned around [21:41.000 --> 21:50.000] and sued those guys back for the same criminal charge or things that happen in the criminal charge. [21:50.000 --> 21:55.000] And I just lost one of my civil cases. [21:55.000 --> 21:57.000] Okay. [21:57.000 --> 22:06.000] The judge sent me an order and he has moved to dismiss the case [22:06.000 --> 22:15.000] because it's this civil case that I sued the court reporter because she held on to my transcripts [22:15.000 --> 22:21.000] four months past the state deadline and she didn't show cause. [22:21.000 --> 22:23.000] She just disappeared with them. [22:23.000 --> 22:33.000] And so I sued her and the judge just sent me an order today saying that my case was frivolous or my complaint. [22:33.000 --> 22:42.000] They had no merits and that I was not prejudiced during the four months that she kept the transcripts [22:42.000 --> 22:49.000] because he finished off saying that I, you know, would have either wanted or lost it so it doesn't matter. [22:49.000 --> 22:54.000] Now, my next step would be, do I want to try to appeal this? [22:54.000 --> 22:56.000] Oh, definitely. [22:56.000 --> 22:57.000] Okay. [22:57.000 --> 23:05.000] Remember, your only purpose in the trial court is to get the law and the facts on the record. [23:05.000 --> 23:10.000] Always expect the judge to rule against you out of hand. [23:10.000 --> 23:12.000] That's what they do. [23:12.000 --> 23:19.000] If you are not a lawyer, he is going to rule against you no matter what. [23:19.000 --> 23:21.000] So who cares? [23:21.000 --> 23:25.000] It's all about the appeals court anyway. [23:25.000 --> 23:28.000] Now, Mississippi is in the same district that Texas is. [23:28.000 --> 23:30.000] I think that's the Fifth District. [23:30.000 --> 23:32.000] Fifth Circuit, yeah. [23:32.000 --> 23:35.000] Or Fifth Circuit, the circuits. [23:35.000 --> 23:37.000] That is in New Orleans. [23:37.000 --> 23:43.000] Where would I want to file this appeal for? [23:43.000 --> 23:44.000] What? [23:44.000 --> 23:45.000] Wait a minute. [23:45.000 --> 23:46.000] Wait a minute. [23:46.000 --> 23:48.000] That was not the right question. [23:48.000 --> 23:52.000] What do I want to file this appeal for? [23:52.000 --> 23:54.000] Or where do I want to send the notice of appeal? [23:54.000 --> 23:57.000] Where would I want to take it next? [23:57.000 --> 24:01.000] Oh, the notice of appeal goes to the trial court. [24:01.000 --> 24:10.000] And then the only place you appeal to is the Fifth Circuit and the trial court will want notice of appeal. [24:10.000 --> 24:15.000] But first, you want to petition for reconsideration. [24:15.000 --> 24:18.000] Look at his order. [24:18.000 --> 24:21.000] Rip his order to shreds. [24:21.000 --> 24:23.000] Look up his case law. [24:23.000 --> 24:25.000] Read his case law. [24:25.000 --> 24:27.000] Every time I do this, I find them. [24:27.000 --> 24:34.000] I just did one in New York where they're citing district court cases. [24:34.000 --> 24:41.000] They cited no actual case law. [24:41.000 --> 24:46.000] They cited district court cases. [24:46.000 --> 24:52.000] And the cases were, they mischaracterized the case. [24:52.000 --> 25:00.000] The judge just made a mess of it just to find a way to dismiss no matter what. [25:00.000 --> 25:03.000] This was an FDCPA suit. [25:03.000 --> 25:12.000] And he said, you can't get a penalty unless you prove a pattern of conduct. [25:12.000 --> 25:17.000] Well, the code says in paragraph A, you get a thousand bucks for each violation. [25:17.000 --> 25:25.000] In paragraph B, if sued in a class action, then you must show a pattern of conduct. [25:25.000 --> 25:29.000] Well, he took A and B and combined them together. [25:29.000 --> 25:33.000] This is nonsense. [25:33.000 --> 25:36.000] But he had no other way to dismiss the case. [25:36.000 --> 25:39.000] So he made up some trash. [25:39.000 --> 25:45.000] So you get to rip it to shreds and then send it back for reconsideration. [25:45.000 --> 25:51.000] And he's going to deny your reconsideration and then use that same motion for [25:51.000 --> 26:01.000] reconsideration for as the beginnings of your brief for the appeal. [26:01.000 --> 26:08.000] Now, are you familiar with the difference between an order and a judgment? [26:08.000 --> 26:10.000] No. [26:10.000 --> 26:13.000] You're supposed to have both. [26:13.000 --> 26:22.000] The court must specifically address every issue in the case. [26:22.000 --> 26:30.000] Whether you would win the case or not, it's iffy whether that even matters. [26:30.000 --> 26:33.000] You have a right to the transcript. [26:33.000 --> 26:36.000] She denied you your right to the transcript. [26:36.000 --> 26:39.000] That's a procedural due process violation. [26:39.000 --> 26:43.000] Harm per se. [26:43.000 --> 26:47.000] And the judge said, oh, you'd have lost the case anyway. [26:47.000 --> 26:53.000] So it doesn't matter if you were accorded your due process rights. [26:53.000 --> 26:54.000] Yes. [26:54.000 --> 26:58.000] What the heck is that nonsense? [26:58.000 --> 27:07.000] You paid the court reporter who was under contract to do a certain thing. [27:07.000 --> 27:09.000] She didn't do that thing. [27:09.000 --> 27:12.000] That's breach of contract on its face. [27:12.000 --> 27:16.000] And while she was under contract to the court, you were a third party beneficiary [27:16.000 --> 27:22.000] of that, she breached the contract. [27:22.000 --> 27:27.000] So take the, you know, go read his brief. [27:27.000 --> 27:34.000] If you don't have points and authorities, the points and authority is the [27:34.000 --> 27:36.000] judgment. [27:36.000 --> 27:40.000] The order, that doesn't end the case. [27:40.000 --> 27:46.000] The case isn't completed until there is a judgment. [27:46.000 --> 27:49.000] I'm trying to think of the exact rule. [27:49.000 --> 27:53.000] I had it in my head, but it kind of got lost. [27:53.000 --> 28:01.000] But look up federal judgment requirement and that'll get you right on the rule. [28:01.000 --> 28:07.000] The court is required to address and specifically address every single issue [28:07.000 --> 28:09.000] that you bring. [28:09.000 --> 28:11.000] So go look at it. [28:11.000 --> 28:16.000] If he's misconstrued one of them, that's grounds to turn this thing over. [28:16.000 --> 28:19.000] Oh. [28:19.000 --> 28:20.000] Okay. [28:20.000 --> 28:21.000] What was the name? [28:21.000 --> 28:24.000] It was called a petition for reconsideration. [28:24.000 --> 28:25.000] A motion for reconsideration. [28:25.000 --> 28:31.000] That's essentially what that is, is a motion for new trial. [28:31.000 --> 28:32.000] Yeah. [28:32.000 --> 28:37.000] But they call it in the Fed, they call it a motion for reconsideration. [28:37.000 --> 28:43.000] You say you erred here, you erred here, you erred here, you should rule this way [28:43.000 --> 28:46.000] based on these facts and this law. [28:46.000 --> 28:50.000] You essentially give the judge a brief. [28:50.000 --> 28:54.000] In the Fed, the judge is required to give you points and authorities, to give [28:54.000 --> 29:01.000] you a brief as to why he dismissed the case. [29:01.000 --> 29:06.000] And look at them closely because when it's a pro se, they do everything they can [29:06.000 --> 29:11.000] to screw you around and misquote law. [29:11.000 --> 29:17.000] Court of appeals can't do that because what they rule becomes law. [29:17.000 --> 29:27.000] So if you catch the judge making a blatant error, you only need one to get [29:27.000 --> 29:30.000] turned over and get sent back. [29:30.000 --> 29:32.000] Okay, good. [29:32.000 --> 29:37.000] So get on that, read that brief of a judgment. [29:37.000 --> 29:42.000] If you don't have a judgment, make sure you request a judgment. [29:42.000 --> 29:43.000] Okay. [29:43.000 --> 29:47.000] Where would I find a good petition for reconsideration? [29:47.000 --> 29:48.000] I've got some. [29:48.000 --> 29:49.000] Hang on. [29:49.000 --> 29:50.000] We'll pick it up on the other side. [29:50.000 --> 29:52.000] This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens. [29:52.000 --> 29:54.000] We'll move our radio. [29:54.000 --> 29:57.000] Call in number 512-646-1984. [29:57.000 --> 30:01.000] We'll be right back. [30:01.000 --> 30:03.000] Computer jargon can be confusing. [30:03.000 --> 30:05.000] Take SSL encryption. 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[32:55.000 --> 32:59.000] Order your copy today and together we can have the free society we all want and deserve. [32:59.000 --> 33:03.000] Live, free speech radio, logosradionetwork.com. [33:21.000 --> 33:23.000] Okay, we are back. [33:23.000 --> 33:25.000] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. [33:25.000 --> 33:33.000] And before we go back to Jeff, there is some rather sad news I need to impart. [33:33.000 --> 33:38.000] Anybody who's listened to the show for a while is familiar with Jeff Cedric. [33:38.000 --> 33:42.000] Jeff Cedric comes on at a regular basis [33:42.000 --> 33:46.000] and lets me know where I've screwed up and rips me apart. [33:46.000 --> 33:51.000] He's one of the most knowledgeable people in legal reform [33:51.000 --> 33:55.000] that I have known since I've been doing this show. [33:55.000 --> 34:02.000] Well, the last time I talked to him, he indicated he was dealing with cancer. [34:02.000 --> 34:05.000] I just got notified that he just passed away. [34:05.000 --> 34:12.000] That is going to be a great loss to the legal reform movement [34:12.000 --> 34:14.000] and certainly a great loss to this show [34:14.000 --> 34:20.000] because I won't have him calling in letting me know where I've screwed up anymore. [34:20.000 --> 34:24.000] I'm definitely going to miss Jeff. He was a great friend. [34:24.000 --> 34:30.000] Okay, now we're going back to Jeff in Mississippi. [34:30.000 --> 34:33.000] Okay, Jeff, you'll have fun with this. [34:33.000 --> 34:40.000] I really enjoy taking the judge's order and whipping it to shreds. [34:40.000 --> 34:42.000] Okay. [34:42.000 --> 34:49.000] And once you look at it, read that thing, look at it, [34:49.000 --> 34:53.000] look at it line by line, look at every case that he cites, [34:53.000 --> 34:59.000] go look up the case and find what the judge is referring to. [34:59.000 --> 35:04.000] You will be surprised how many times they screw up the case law. [35:04.000 --> 35:10.000] They mischaracterize it. They just screw up everything. [35:10.000 --> 35:12.000] So that's my suggestion. Don't let this get away. [35:12.000 --> 35:15.000] Make sure you appeal this thing. [35:15.000 --> 35:17.000] Well, I've got two quick points. [35:17.000 --> 35:21.000] One of the points that he disregarded my case [35:21.000 --> 35:26.000] was he claimed that the court reporter was not an actual official of the court, [35:26.000 --> 35:30.000] that she was a member of the American Court Reporter Association, [35:30.000 --> 35:36.000] which is considered an arm of the state and therefore cannot be sued. [35:36.000 --> 35:39.000] And I think he's a big blunder saying that. [35:39.000 --> 35:43.000] Okay, did he provide case law? [35:43.000 --> 35:47.000] I don't think so. I'll go back and look. [35:47.000 --> 35:51.000] Okay. Then it sounds that the court reporter, [35:51.000 --> 35:56.000] I've never heard of a court reporter being included under that. [35:56.000 --> 36:05.000] And if you need to address that, do some research on court reporter immunity. [36:05.000 --> 36:07.000] Okay. [36:07.000 --> 36:13.000] It's not something I could imagine that would be included in immunity. [36:13.000 --> 36:17.000] Yes, that's a contract laborer. [36:17.000 --> 36:18.000] Yes. [36:18.000 --> 36:24.000] So if it's not included, then you need to judicial conduct complaint to judge. [36:24.000 --> 36:29.000] Oh, okay, because he's making an opinion without case law. [36:29.000 --> 36:34.000] No, he is trying to write law. [36:34.000 --> 36:39.000] That is, he is absolutely violating law in doing that. [36:39.000 --> 36:44.000] I would look at that as shielding from prosecution. [36:44.000 --> 36:45.000] Okay. [36:45.000 --> 36:49.000] He's trying to protect his court reporter. [36:49.000 --> 36:54.000] The court reporter violated the Mississippi Rules of Appellate Procedure directly. [36:54.000 --> 36:57.000] That was a direct violation. [36:57.000 --> 36:59.000] Explained. [36:59.000 --> 37:06.000] Well, rule 11 says that after 90 days, that if she files an extension of time, [37:06.000 --> 37:13.000] that she needs to show cause by detailing all the other work that she is behind in. [37:13.000 --> 37:16.000] In other words, list the cases and what she's done. [37:16.000 --> 37:19.000] And when she filed her extension, she didn't do that. [37:19.000 --> 37:22.000] Or her petition for extension, she just said, [37:22.000 --> 37:28.000] I need more time because I'm backed up, and then they just granted it [37:28.000 --> 37:30.000] without any cause at all. [37:30.000 --> 37:34.000] And that's what I sued her for. [37:34.000 --> 37:39.000] I'm thinking, I'm thinking how to get back at the judge [37:39.000 --> 37:44.000] for exerting or purporting to exert an authority he doesn't have. [37:44.000 --> 37:45.000] Okay. [37:45.000 --> 37:49.000] If the law required that certain things be there and they weren't, [37:49.000 --> 37:55.000] then the judge granted this motion in violation of the code. [37:55.000 --> 37:58.000] And that should get a judicial conduct complaint. [37:58.000 --> 37:59.000] Okay. [37:59.000 --> 38:05.000] And I'm thinking a suit against the judge. [38:05.000 --> 38:06.000] Okay. [38:06.000 --> 38:09.000] Outside scope. [38:09.000 --> 38:10.000] Okay. [38:10.000 --> 38:17.000] The judge doesn't have the authority to do what the legislature forbids him to do. [38:17.000 --> 38:19.000] All right. [38:19.000 --> 38:22.000] By saying that this must be there, [38:22.000 --> 38:29.000] then the legislature essentially forbids him to rule in the court reporter's favor [38:29.000 --> 38:33.000] if this is not there. [38:33.000 --> 38:36.000] So I'd maintain that's outside scope. [38:36.000 --> 38:39.000] That's a denial of procedural due process. [38:39.000 --> 38:45.000] Well, where's the best place to get a motion for reconsideration? [38:45.000 --> 38:47.000] Just send me an email. [38:47.000 --> 38:49.000] I got a whole bunch of them. [38:49.000 --> 38:50.000] Okay. [38:50.000 --> 38:53.000] That is my favorite thing to do. [38:53.000 --> 38:54.000] Oh. [38:54.000 --> 38:57.000] Rip that judge to shreds. [38:57.000 --> 39:02.000] That's the only time you get to really take a good shot at the judge. [39:02.000 --> 39:06.000] You take off the gloves and you toss them under the table, [39:06.000 --> 39:10.000] and you go right for his throat. [39:10.000 --> 39:11.000] Right. [39:11.000 --> 39:13.000] You moron. [39:13.000 --> 39:15.000] Look where you screwed up here. [39:15.000 --> 39:16.000] You screwed up there. [39:16.000 --> 39:18.000] You get to really go for the judge here. [39:18.000 --> 39:22.000] I think once you get into it, you will enjoy it. [39:22.000 --> 39:23.000] Okay. [39:23.000 --> 39:29.000] Because you'll read this and say, holy mackerel, look at the mess he made. [39:29.000 --> 39:35.000] Let's go show the Fifth Circuit what an idiot judge this guy is. [39:35.000 --> 39:36.000] Great. [39:36.000 --> 39:37.000] Okay. [39:37.000 --> 39:39.000] I'll email you tonight. [39:39.000 --> 39:40.000] Good. [39:40.000 --> 39:41.000] Okay. [39:41.000 --> 39:42.000] And I'll send you several of them. [39:42.000 --> 39:44.000] I've got them from several different states. [39:44.000 --> 39:48.000] I'll send you the one I just did out of New York. [39:48.000 --> 39:50.000] It's kind of a work in progress. [39:50.000 --> 39:52.000] I've got 90% of it. [39:52.000 --> 39:54.000] And I've got some others that I've sent. [39:54.000 --> 39:57.000] I'll have you look at them. [39:57.000 --> 39:58.000] All right. [39:58.000 --> 40:00.000] Expect an email from Jeff from Mississippi. [40:00.000 --> 40:01.000] Okay. [40:01.000 --> 40:02.000] Thank you, Jeff. [40:02.000 --> 40:03.000] Thanks. [40:03.000 --> 40:04.000] All right. [40:04.000 --> 40:05.000] Bye. [40:05.000 --> 40:06.000] Okay. [40:06.000 --> 40:08.000] Now we're going to go to Charles in Washington. [40:08.000 --> 40:10.000] Hello, Charles. [40:10.000 --> 40:11.000] Hey, Randy. [40:11.000 --> 40:14.000] Nice to have you on again and nice talking to you. [40:14.000 --> 40:15.000] I've got a problem. [40:15.000 --> 40:21.000] I had a case when I got into an accident on a freeway. [40:21.000 --> 40:28.000] And the officer came by after me and the gentleman decided to resolve the issue amongst ourselves. [40:28.000 --> 40:33.000] He left and then he walks back up, talks to the gentleman, after pulling him to the side, of course, [40:33.000 --> 40:39.000] and then proceeds to go back to his car and comes back with a ticket. [40:39.000 --> 40:42.000] So I never got a notice to appear in court. [40:42.000 --> 40:50.000] And when I went to find out about the court matter, I found out that, no, it was a court date coming up. [40:50.000 --> 40:55.000] And when I went to court, I found out that they had dismissed the tickets. [40:55.000 --> 40:57.000] And that worked out at my service. [40:57.000 --> 41:03.000] And then sometime later, which I was told, see how this process of doing that, they brought the ticket back. [41:03.000 --> 41:04.000] So... [41:04.000 --> 41:05.000] Wait a minute. [41:05.000 --> 41:06.000] Hold on. [41:06.000 --> 41:09.000] They dismissed the ticket? [41:09.000 --> 41:13.000] On what basis did they dismiss the ticket? [41:13.000 --> 41:14.000] I don't know. [41:14.000 --> 41:17.000] I don't know if it was filed in a timely manner. [41:17.000 --> 41:22.000] It was something, I'm sure, that was done in the negligence of the officer. [41:22.000 --> 41:24.000] And I did ask that. [41:24.000 --> 41:25.000] I had a lawyer friend up here. [41:25.000 --> 41:28.000] I asked him to look into that because I was curious, [41:28.000 --> 41:33.000] did they dismiss tickets unless they didn't do the timely filing? [41:33.000 --> 41:41.000] Once the ticket was dismissed, we need to see why it was dismissed [41:41.000 --> 41:48.000] to determine if they actually can reinstate it. [41:48.000 --> 41:52.000] Because once you dismiss a criminal prosecution, [41:52.000 --> 41:58.000] you can't bring it back unless there's some compelling reason. [41:58.000 --> 42:09.000] Say you go in and they dismiss it, you went to court, you spent all the time and the effort, [42:09.000 --> 42:11.000] the case is dismissed. [42:11.000 --> 42:14.000] Now they're going to order you back to court? [42:14.000 --> 42:18.000] Well, they have to have some compelling reason. [42:18.000 --> 42:21.000] Okay, let's back up. [42:21.000 --> 42:24.000] What was the nature of the citation? [42:24.000 --> 42:27.000] Was it based on an accident? [42:27.000 --> 42:30.000] Yes, and it was improper backing. [42:30.000 --> 42:33.000] They came up with about four different titles. [42:33.000 --> 42:38.000] Did the officer personally see or hear the offense being committed? [42:38.000 --> 42:42.000] No, and I was going to make a motion to suppress the officers. [42:42.000 --> 42:50.000] I was in court once and I was pulling out from the side of the road [42:50.000 --> 42:53.000] and I was going to turn left. [42:53.000 --> 42:59.000] There was another guy directly across from me and he was going to turn left. [42:59.000 --> 43:07.000] So I pulled up to the road and I looked to my left and there's nothing coming. [43:07.000 --> 43:13.000] So I looked to my right and looked down at the oncoming traffic on the other side of the road [43:13.000 --> 43:15.000] and I pulled out. [43:15.000 --> 43:18.000] Well, he did the same thing. [43:18.000 --> 43:20.000] He looked to his left and didn't see anything. [43:20.000 --> 43:24.000] He looked to his right to see if anybody's coming in the lane he's pulling into [43:24.000 --> 43:26.000] and we pulled out into each other [43:26.000 --> 43:30.000] because we're looking down the road and not at each other. [43:30.000 --> 43:32.000] Well, the cop comes. They call the police. [43:32.000 --> 43:37.000] The police comes along and writes me a ticket. [43:37.000 --> 43:43.000] Well, we get to court and we have to go to break. [43:43.000 --> 43:45.000] You're going to like this. This was great fun. [43:45.000 --> 43:48.000] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Reel of Our Radio. [43:48.000 --> 43:51.000] I call it number 5126461984. 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Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Charles in Washington. [46:58.000 --> 47:18.000] Well, I lost where I was at with the... [47:18.000 --> 47:20.000] Oh, the accident, yes. [47:20.000 --> 47:25.000] So I went into court and we were kind of parked in the middle of the road [47:25.000 --> 47:30.000] and this county sheriff come along and say, hey, this is a minor offender. [47:30.000 --> 47:32.000] You guys just move these things up in the parking lot. [47:32.000 --> 47:34.000] We said, sure. [47:34.000 --> 47:39.000] So we get into court and the officer gets up there and testified. [47:39.000 --> 47:45.000] I got up there and they had a brand new prosecutor. [47:45.000 --> 47:54.000] They had an older female prosecutor, obviously breaking in a new young female prosecutor. [47:54.000 --> 47:57.000] There's no doubt this was her first case. [47:57.000 --> 48:05.000] So I get the police officer on the stand and I ask him, did you write this ticket? [48:05.000 --> 48:06.000] And he said, yes, he did. [48:06.000 --> 48:11.000] And he swore on his oath that he had reason to believe and did believe that I had committed this crime. [48:11.000 --> 48:16.000] So how did you make a determination that I committed this crime? [48:16.000 --> 48:18.000] He said, well, I investigated the accident. [48:18.000 --> 48:26.000] Oh, OK. Did you photograph the glass patterns in the highway? [48:26.000 --> 48:29.000] He said, well, there were no glass patterns. [48:29.000 --> 48:37.000] Did you photograph and pay and look at how the vehicles were positioned in the highway? [48:37.000 --> 48:39.000] Well, the vehicles were positioned in the highway. [48:39.000 --> 48:42.000] They were in the parking lot. [48:42.000 --> 48:45.000] Did you measure the skid marks on the highway? [48:45.000 --> 48:48.000] Were they working skid marks? [48:48.000 --> 48:51.000] Well, then how did you know an accident happened? [48:51.000 --> 48:54.000] Well, I talked to you and I talked to the other person involved. [48:54.000 --> 48:58.000] So where were you when the accident actually occurred? [48:58.000 --> 49:01.000] Well, I was on another call. [49:01.000 --> 49:09.000] So, OK, now, as I read the code under 14.06 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, you can arrest someone. [49:09.000 --> 49:18.000] And under 14.01, you can arrest someone for an on-site offense without a warrant. [49:18.000 --> 49:21.000] Seattle, San Diego? [49:21.000 --> 49:24.000] You just testified that you didn't see this accident. [49:24.000 --> 49:33.000] So tell me, officer, whatever his name was, Pringle, officer Pringle, when did you commit aggravated perjury? [49:33.000 --> 49:38.000] When you filled out this citation and presented it to the court or just now? [49:38.000 --> 49:43.000] When you testified that you had no knowledge about this accident at all. [49:43.000 --> 49:46.000] The lawyer jumped up, objection, objection. [49:46.000 --> 49:48.000] You honor, I object too. [49:48.000 --> 49:52.000] This is awful. [49:52.000 --> 49:59.000] The judge in the case found me guilty and charged me 10 bucks. [49:59.000 --> 50:05.000] And he said, Mr. Kelton, I am going to find you guilty. [50:05.000 --> 50:13.000] But considering your argument, I'm going to find you $10. [50:13.000 --> 50:25.000] And I took it from the way he did that to say, there is no way I'm going to cause this new prosecutor to lose their first case. [50:25.000 --> 50:27.000] Exactly, exactly. [50:27.000 --> 50:34.000] Point is, this officer knew nothing. [50:34.000 --> 50:41.000] So he, what did your officer know about the accident? [50:41.000 --> 50:44.000] He took pictures. That was all he did. [50:44.000 --> 50:46.000] So he didn't see it happen. [50:46.000 --> 50:49.000] He just took, he just had some pictures. [50:49.000 --> 50:52.000] Okay, well, let me back up. [50:52.000 --> 50:55.000] We shouldn't go there first anyway. [50:55.000 --> 50:59.000] What, okay, you're in Washington State. [50:59.000 --> 51:01.000] You have the right to travel in Washington State. [51:01.000 --> 51:05.000] It's in the code. [51:05.000 --> 51:17.000] Okay, what, how did the ticket establish that you fell within the statutory scheme? [51:17.000 --> 51:22.000] Well, first of all, we had already discussed between myself and the person, the victim. [51:22.000 --> 51:27.000] I was in his case and we decided to spell it out and he trusted me. [51:27.000 --> 51:32.000] No, no, no, no, wait a minute, wait a minute, different issue. [51:32.000 --> 51:40.000] How did the citation establish the elements of the alleged crime? [51:40.000 --> 51:43.000] What you say was improper backing? [51:43.000 --> 51:45.000] Hold on, back up. [51:45.000 --> 51:49.000] We don't get there yet. [51:49.000 --> 51:58.000] First thing, Mr. police officer, who the heck are you? [51:58.000 --> 52:04.000] What authority do you have to enforce the traffic code? [52:04.000 --> 52:05.000] Okay. [52:05.000 --> 52:13.000] Okay, and once you establish that you have authority to enforce the traffic code, [52:13.000 --> 52:21.000] what facts do you have to indicate that I fall within the statutory scheme? [52:21.000 --> 52:34.000] He cited you for a violation under your license, under your professional license. [52:34.000 --> 52:49.000] This statutory scheme, the transportation code, only applies to persons operating in a commercial capacity with a professional license. [52:49.000 --> 52:55.000] How did he establish that the statutory scheme applied to you? [52:55.000 --> 52:57.000] And that's what I was going to bring up in court. [52:57.000 --> 53:00.000] They had no jurisdiction on me because of that. [53:00.000 --> 53:04.000] No, I didn't get that chance. [53:04.000 --> 53:22.000] Okay, the way to make that argument is to maintain that the complaint itself is insufficient on its face as it fails to allege all the elements of the crime. [53:22.000 --> 53:30.000] The complaint itself is, you say that again for me, Randy? [53:30.000 --> 53:40.000] It's insufficient on its face because it fails to allege all of the elements of the crime. [53:40.000 --> 54:03.000] If you were pretending to be in a car and running down the street and making rum rum noises and you bumped into another car, would he charge you with an accident? [54:03.000 --> 54:04.000] Okay. [54:04.000 --> 54:16.000] Okay, would he charge you with a violation of the transportation code? [54:16.000 --> 54:31.000] If you're running down the street pretending you're in a car and you rear end another car with your body, would he charge you with violating the transportation code? [54:31.000 --> 54:34.000] The clown probably knew that, but he shouldn't be able to. [54:34.000 --> 54:36.000] No, no, no, no. [54:36.000 --> 54:38.000] They got to have something. [54:38.000 --> 54:44.000] I mean, if you're standing on your head squawking like a chicken, he's not going to charge you with capital murder. [54:44.000 --> 54:48.000] He's got to have something. [54:48.000 --> 54:56.000] They don't just wave a magic wand and just pull everything completely out of the air. [54:56.000 --> 54:58.000] Okay, well, that's what he thought he was doing. [54:58.000 --> 55:01.000] You got to ask the right questions. [55:01.000 --> 55:06.000] You can't just say, oh, they'll just do anything they want to. [55:06.000 --> 55:12.000] If that's how you think about it, then why would you even bother? [55:12.000 --> 55:14.000] Okay. [55:14.000 --> 55:18.000] You have to go back to the details. [55:18.000 --> 55:19.000] Okay. [55:19.000 --> 55:24.000] You weren't running down the street pretending to be in a car. [55:24.000 --> 55:28.000] You bashed into the back of another car while you were pretending to be in the car. [55:28.000 --> 55:34.000] He wouldn't charge you with rear end in this other car under the transportation code. [55:34.000 --> 55:44.000] He might charge you under something else, but he wouldn't charge you under the transportation code because there are requirements. [55:44.000 --> 55:48.000] So that's why he charged you with improper backing. [55:48.000 --> 55:52.000] Improper backing of what? [55:52.000 --> 56:02.000] So if you ran backwards and bashed into a car, would he charge you with improper backing? [56:02.000 --> 56:03.000] No, no, no, listen. [56:03.000 --> 56:12.000] If you're standing flat-footed and walked backwards and bashed into his car, is he going to charge you with improper backing? [56:12.000 --> 56:15.000] This fool did, but I don't see how he could do that, but that's what he did. [56:15.000 --> 56:16.000] Man, you are not listening. [56:16.000 --> 56:19.000] You are not listening. [56:19.000 --> 56:26.000] If you walk into a car, are they going to charge you with a transportation code violation? [56:26.000 --> 56:27.000] No, no, no. [56:27.000 --> 56:28.000] I'm with you now. [56:28.000 --> 56:31.000] No, they can't because I'm in the car. [56:31.000 --> 56:34.000] You're not in a car. [56:34.000 --> 56:35.000] I'm not in a car, exactly. [56:35.000 --> 56:40.000] That's one of the requirements. [56:40.000 --> 56:41.000] Okay, I got you there. [56:41.000 --> 56:45.000] What are the rest of them? [56:45.000 --> 56:46.000] What are the elements? [56:46.000 --> 56:49.000] There's got to be elements here. [56:49.000 --> 56:58.000] And one of the elements is that you have to be operating under the authority of the transportation code. [56:58.000 --> 57:00.000] Can you comment? [57:00.000 --> 57:03.000] If you're not in commerce, you're not under the code. [57:03.000 --> 57:07.000] The code don't apply to you. [57:07.000 --> 57:08.000] Exactly. [57:08.000 --> 57:09.000] Okay. [57:09.000 --> 57:16.000] And that's what I was going to bring in the court when I got my chance to discuss that. [57:16.000 --> 57:22.000] But since I had an emergency with my brother in California, I told him I would not be able to make the trial date, [57:22.000 --> 57:27.000] even though we'd had a previous trial date and the judge said there would be no more continuous. [57:27.000 --> 57:29.000] This is where the problem came in. [57:29.000 --> 57:36.000] I should have dismissed it that day, but I was very ill because the officer and all the witnesses for the state never showed up for court. [57:36.000 --> 57:39.000] Wait a minute. Hold on. You jumped way away from me here. [57:39.000 --> 57:44.000] You jumped a whole different set of issues. [57:44.000 --> 57:49.000] Did you get a ruling against you because you didn't show up? [57:49.000 --> 57:51.000] Yes. [57:51.000 --> 57:57.000] Go back and challenge subject matter jurisdiction. [57:57.000 --> 58:02.000] You have to understand the judge is a criminal. [58:02.000 --> 58:04.000] He does not care what the law says. [58:04.000 --> 58:06.000] He does not care what the facts are. [58:06.000 --> 58:09.000] He is there to collect money. [58:09.000 --> 58:13.000] Any way he can find to collect money, he will collect money. [58:13.000 --> 58:18.000] So pull off the gloves. [58:18.000 --> 58:22.000] Don't go to the merits. [58:22.000 --> 58:27.000] Start where you should start, and that's the subject matter jurisdiction. [58:27.000 --> 58:31.000] How do you fall within the statutory scheme? [58:31.000 --> 58:34.000] If you don't, they don't have subject matter jurisdiction. [58:34.000 --> 58:38.000] They can't order you to court. They can't do anything. [58:38.000 --> 58:41.000] Hang on. Randy Kelton, Juvla Radio. [58:41.000 --> 58:50.000] We'll be right back. 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[01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:30.000] The customer then called out the robber who turned and pointed the rifle at him, but before he could even realize it, the customer had fired several shots from his concealed handgun. [01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:35.000] The robber was transported to a local hospital where he remains in critical condition and on life support. [01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:44.000] Luckily, the vigilante had a Texas handgun license to carry, which allows a licensee to carry a handgun, concealed or openly, in a wide array of conditions and locations. [01:02:44.000 --> 01:03:12.000] The Lone Star Lowdown is created for sponsors. If you have a product or a service you'd like to advertise with us, feel free to give me a call at 210-363-2257. This is Brooke Rody with the Lone Star Lowdown for July 13th, 2016. [01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:26.000] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelp, Debra Stevens, Reload Radio. We're talking to Charles in Washington. Charles, I need to apologize. [01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:35.000] I'm a little tired today, so we're not so quick on the uptake. It is clear that you have something you want to say. [01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:52.000] And what I'm trying to do is start at the beginning of the case and move to the point where you're at. So I'm going to stop and let you address this issue, and then we'll go back to where it was. Okay, go ahead. [01:03:52.000 --> 01:04:09.000] I've been up for two days and I haven't slept either, so my brain is not trying to catch up with what you're saying. That was exactly what I intend to bring up if I had my day in court, because I've listened to you and I listened to Eddie enough to know that's going to always be the merit of the case. [01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:28.000] It's jurisdiction that I'm not promised. But what happened was, like I said, once I did go to court after we entered the ticket, the officer didn't show. I came back. The judge said, we're going to go for it. No more continuance. [01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:35.000] Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. They ordered you to court and the officer didn't show? [01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:43.000] Yes, and he didn't give a notice that he had, that he wasn't going to be there. The prosecutor didn't know it. I didn't receive anything. [01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.000] Okay. You had a right to dismissal. [01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.000] That's what I asked for, and he denied me. [01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.000] Great. Okay. That's good. [01:04:53.000 --> 01:05:12.000] So what I did, I filed an appeal today, petition for review that I filed a notice to appeal, and this is why I was calling you, because I want to know, because it's not been over 30 days. I know you usually have 30 days from the time that the case is over, that the order was put in. [01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:37.000] Okay. Hold on. In Texas, normally you have 10 days, and in a district court case, you have 30 days, but in a municipal court case or in a ticket, you only have 10 days. Are you sure that you have 30 days on a ticket in Washington? [01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:55.000] What happened was, it was May 26, because a deadline for that case was coming up, so the judge posted it three days before the deadline was up, but I told him when I was in court that I had an emergency to go to to see about my brother, and I know I wouldn't be there. [01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.000] Okay. That's easy. That's permissible error. [01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.000] Permissible error? [01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:29.000] Permissible error. You request an enlargement of time based on permissible error. You claimed you missed the court filing date, but you were involved in a medical emergency. I have someone I'm working with who had an appeal brief that was due Monday. [01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:35.000] Thursday, her hot water heater exploded. [01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:45.000] Yes. And she had to move into a motel. They had to cut all the plasterboard 18 inches off the floor and redo all the, she had to move out of the house. [01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:52.000] So she asked for an enlargement of time based on permissible. [01:06:52.000 --> 01:07:06.000] This would be called permissible error. It's not neglect. She couldn't make the deadline, but it's, and not making the deadline is an error, but it's a permissible error if you have good reason. [01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:16.000] And yours is a medical reason. They'll grant that almost every time. If they deny that one, the court of appeals, well, the court of appeals won't deny it. [01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:27.000] And that's what I thought, because that's what I thought, but now I've got to go back and amend. How am I going to approach this? So I knew it had to be something more than just what the judge did, because I did. [01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:37.000] Okay. Hold on. Hold on. This is in Washington state. An appeal from the trial court is trial de novo. [01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:42.000] It's a redo. You start all over again. [01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:48.000] I don't know that. Okay. Let me explain this. Trial de novo. [01:07:48.000 --> 01:08:00.000] You have a right in generally in class C misdemeanor cases or cases that are presided over by an inferior court. [01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:11.000] An inferior court is a municipal court or a justice to the peace court where the judge does not have to be a lawyer. [01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:19.000] Generally, when you're in a court where the judge does not have to be a lawyer, that's construed as an inferior court. [01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:31.000] An appeal to the next higher court is appeal de novo. And appeal de novo is for the purpose of perfecting appeal. [01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:43.000] You don't have to appeal on writ of error. You appeal de novo and it's a do-over. They start at the beginning and have the trial all over again. [01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:49.000] And that's what I was trying to get done, but I didn't know if the 30 days can counsel that or not. [01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:52.000] But the medical thing, I still should be able to do what you just said. [01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:58.000] Yeah. Just file for an enlargement of time based on medical emergency. [01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:06.000] That's where I wanted to know if I still could do that, even though it's not 30 or 10 days. That's what I wanted to know. [01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:15.000] And my apologies for getting caught up in the facts of the case, though. I'm a little brain dead today. [01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:21.000] You're good at that. That's good. That's okay. This was my other question, too, and I don't want to hold it for anybody else. [01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:30.000] When I was in the court and that was when we found out that the officer wasn't going to show, he didn't let nobody know he was going to show none of us. [01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:35.000] In most cases, don't they? I've seen it. They dismiss the case based on that. [01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:48.000] You have a right to dismissal because prosecuting attorney didn't call you and say, hey, Charles, we're looking at setting this case for either this date or this date. [01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:53.000] Which one's better for you? Now, that's what he does with lawyers. [01:09:53.000 --> 01:10:01.000] What the trial court did in criminal cases, they will say, okay, you be here on this day at this time. [01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:06.000] They don't care what your schedule is. They don't care what's convenient to you. [01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:09.000] They only care what's convenient to them. [01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:19.000] Well, on the other side of that, when they order you to be here on this day at this time, they have a duty to be ready for trial. [01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:27.000] If the prosecutor don't have his witnesses, his problem, not your problem, you showed up on the day at the time. [01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:33.000] You had a right to trial. They had no witnesses, so they had no one to testify against you. [01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:43.000] You moved to dismiss. They denied you that. You need to file a judicial conduct complaint against the judge for denying you procedural due process. [01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:51.000] That's exactly what I did because I did file a complaint with the judicial board of misconduct in Olympia because I knew that that was wrong. [01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:56.000] I did make the most of the press call for the statement. You have no witness for the state. [01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:04.000] Then I told him, and then I was going to get into the facts of the judicial, the subject matter jurisdiction, and he had cut me off. [01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:08.000] He said, well, since you were allowed to continue, I'm going to allow him to continue. [01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:12.000] I said, you were not the initial judge in the beginning. Who are you to go ahead and change it up? [01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:16.000] I said, well, the judge said, at this hearing, we will finish it. [01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:22.000] So that's what I'm filing a appeal on now is that we're just a board of misconduct with the court of appeals. [01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:26.000] So I'm going to file what you can file in light of time. [01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.000] OK, hold on, hold on. Continuance. [01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:34.000] Look up the rules on continuance. [01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:37.000] The prosecutor can't get a continuance here. [01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:47.000] You have to give notice seven days, generally seven days prior and has to be accompanied with an affidavit showing cause for the continuance. [01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:55.000] This is this well, I'm sure going to go to to code in Washington state because it is in every other state. [01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.000] You had a right to dismissal. [01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.000] That's a procedural due process violation. [01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:05.000] They'd sue the jerk in the federal court. [01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:09.000] Procedural, you said it was procedural due process? [01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:13.000] Procedural due process. [01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:23.000] Eighteen forty two U.S. Code 1983 almost exclusively goes to procedural due process. [01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:26.000] Can you give me that code one more time? [01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.000] That's not a code. [01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:28.000] OK, it is a code. [01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:32.000] Eighteen forty two U.S. Code 1983. [01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:36.000] Forty two U.S. Code. [01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.000] Forty two U.S.C. 1983. [01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.000] You should have that burned in your brain. [01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:50.000] That's where you sue a public official for what he does in the performance of his duty. [01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:55.000] If he denies you in procedural due process, you can sue him in the Fed. [01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:58.000] Yes, I knew that too, because Eddie talked about that. [01:12:58.000 --> 01:12:59.000] OK, in the Fed. [01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000] OK. [01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:07.000] There's also substantive due process, but that's a little more complex. [01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:14.000] Almost all of the forty two U.S. Code 1983 suits are procedural due process. [01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.000] Yeah, I've got to still pick your class up before I get to that point. [01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.000] OK, now that was done. [01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:20.000] You saw my problem. [01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.000] Last time I talked with you, I had an issue about these vehicles on the street, [01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.000] that I had a couple of cars that I got improperly impounded, [01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:32.000] because they got their law up here for a cap, they expired. [01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:35.000] Over forty five days, they towed your car. [01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:39.000] Now, you told me about covering up the car, and I've seen that done. [01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:44.000] I haven't been able to find anything in my RCW on WAG to show me that, [01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:47.000] but I know I've seen it, and it mostly kind of works for a period, [01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.000] then they always end up getting a ticket. [01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:55.000] OK, it doesn't matter if you have a statute. [01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:03.000] I had the mayor, I live right next to City Hall, had to be forty foot bus out there. [01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.000] He said, you're going to have to move that bus. [01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:08.000] He came back the next day, and I covered it up. [01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.000] What bus? [01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.000] I don't see a bus. [01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.000] Do you see a bus? [01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.000] Well, it's right under that tarp. [01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.000] Well, I can't see under that tarp. [01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:20.000] Can you see under that tarp? [01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.000] And he started walking across my property, and I said, [01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.000] hey, hey, hey, hold on here. [01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.000] Get your behind off my property. [01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.000] I want to see what's under that tarp. [01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:29.000] I don't care what you want. [01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:30.000] Get off my property. [01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.000] And the chief of police come out and told the mayor, [01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:38.000] you can't go on this property if he told you not to. [01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:41.000] You can't see a bus. [01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:47.000] You could see the bus on Google Earth. [01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:52.000] Well, you could see the tarp. [01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:55.000] Oh, that was so funny. [01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:00.000] That guy is not mayor anymore, but he still won't speak to me. [01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.000] That's OK, because you haven't did to the right. [01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.000] But what happens when you do this on public streets? [01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:06.000] Is it still systematic? [01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.000] OK, on the street is a different situation, because that's not your property. [01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:18.000] OK, but we have something that says that we like to park our vehicles, [01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:22.000] use the waterways, something about the railroads, free of duty. [01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.000] That means no tax, no ticket. [01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:27.000] Hold on, hold on. [01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.000] Vehicles. [01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.000] Look up those terms. [01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:37.000] Remember what Eddie tells you about definitions of terms. [01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:45.000] If a vehicle goes to commercial in Washington state, [01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:49.000] then that will apply to you so long as that is a vehicle. [01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:53.000] But if it's not licensed, it's not a vehicle. [01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.000] It wasn't licensed. [01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:59.000] So it won't fall under vehicle, so you can't put it on the street, [01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:02.000] because you haven't paid the taxes. [01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000] Well, I was trying not to pay the taxes, [01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.000] because I was hoping that I would have to register my cars, [01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.000] because it was a consumer good. [01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:10.000] OK, hold on. [01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:14.000] OK, there are ramifications. [01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:20.000] If you park your automobile on your property, [01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:28.000] you can do that, but if you park your automobile on the city's property, [01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:32.000] then on the public thoroughfare, [01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:36.000] now you're entering into an adhesion contract [01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:44.000] with the authority that maintains the road. [01:16:44.000 --> 01:17:00.000] Hang on, Randy Kelton, we'll be right back. [01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.000] Are you being harassed by debt collectors [01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.000] with phone calls, letters, or even lawsuits? 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[01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:03.000] Yes, but my point I was going to try to make is by not having to register my cars, [01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:10.000] then at the same time – well, there was this two-page document I found. [01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:18.000] And it says something back in the 50th Congress about the waterways back in 1780, [01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:25.000] that the railroad, the railways, and the streets are free from duty, [01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.000] and it's about parking on the street. [01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:31.000] And so that is what I'm trying to base my case on. [01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:32.000] OK, hold on, hold on. [01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:35.000] Free from duty. [01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.000] Taxes. [01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:45.000] OK, this is getting pretty technical because the thoroughfares are intended for travel, [01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:51.000] not for storage. [01:20:51.000 --> 01:21:01.000] You're storing your vehicle, your automobile, on a thoroughfare. [01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:07.000] That would be a – I'm not sure how to address that, whether you could – [01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:14.000] if you stored your vehicle on your own property, that's a whole different issue. [01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:17.000] But if you store it on – even if you store it overnight, [01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:23.000] if you store it for a couple of hours and you park it on the street, you're storing it, [01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:30.000] can you use public property for private storage? [01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:35.000] Yes, and what constitutes storage, how much time would be allowed and not allowed. [01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:37.000] We have 24 hours in some counties. [01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:40.000] We have 72 hours in other counties. [01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:45.000] And the main reason was told because it was not – the taxes expired. [01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:48.000] That was the main reason it was told. [01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.000] Yeah, because you hadn't paid the tax. [01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:58.000] If you had paid the tax, then you would have paid to be able to use the road for that purpose. [01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:05.000] But you're saying that there is no duty, so it gets to the question. [01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:12.000] And I'm trying to be – at some point, we have to reach a reasonable impasse. [01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:18.000] You can't – would you say that you could take your automobile [01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:25.000] and set it crossways in the road so you brought the thoroughfare? [01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:33.000] That's – yeah, they got – safety hazards, the kids walking, pulling out. [01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:45.000] Okay. How much blocking of the roadway can you do using the roadway for storage? [01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:50.000] You have to be five feet from each driveway. [01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.000] Okay. [01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:52.000] Five feet. [01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:55.000] How far from the curb? [01:22:55.000 --> 01:23:04.000] My car was a foot from the curb, and my car was 10 feet from the driveway, and I parked right next to the curb. [01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.000] Okay, so – [01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:06.000] It's okay. [01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:13.000] It sounds like you're in – within their code. [01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:32.000] And what their claim was, does the code say that in order to park on the thoroughfare, a automobile must be licensed or registered? [01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:34.000] Well, they do have an ordinance for that. [01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.000] That car could be parked in a street, but it must be licensed. [01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:42.000] But I'm just trying to go with just not having to register my recreation. [01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:43.000] Okay. [01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:44.000] Okay. [01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:46.000] Well, you don't have to register your vehicle. [01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:53.000] But they passed the ordinance that says it must be licensed to park it on the public thoroughfare. [01:23:53.000 --> 01:24:00.000] You park it on your property all day or drive it on the – travel with it on the thoroughfare. [01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:04.000] But storing it on the thoroughfare is a different issue. [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:05.000] Yeah. [01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:06.000] Okay. [01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:11.000] I just thought that might have got me out of the loop, just like the driving license. [01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:19.000] I did find that article today about, you know, I have to have a license and the RCW and the WAC, but people stood down licenses. [01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:25.000] So maybe there was something in there on the parking by not registering my car because I don't want to register it anymore. [01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:28.000] I'm going to try to get up under my own – [01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:29.000] Okay. [01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:33.000] Any time you exercise these rights, they have certain drawbacks that are going to come with them. [01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.000] You have to recognize those, like colloidal titles. [01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:42.000] You know, colloidal titles, you bring your title forward and you don't have to pay taxes. [01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.000] But then you have other issues you have to deal with. [01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:50.000] No police protection, no fire protection, no utilities. [01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:56.000] You know, everything has its drawbacks. [01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:57.000] Okay. [01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.000] Wouldn't you call it the title? [01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:01.000] Wait. [01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:02.000] Say that again. [01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.000] Would you call that colloidal title? [01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:09.000] Colloidal. [01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.000] You look up colloidal title. [01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:14.000] I may open a can of worms for you here. [01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:23.000] But if you bring forward the land patent, some places they call it land patent, other places they call it colloidal title. [01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:25.000] You might look up those. [01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:26.000] Okay. [01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:30.000] That will give you a whole different fight to have. [01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:31.000] Okay. [01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:35.000] I'm not going to because you've got too many people and I know they're interested to talk with you. [01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:36.000] I really do appreciate you. [01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:39.000] I will be sending that money in for that plan. [01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:40.000] I wanted to talk to you. [01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:41.000] Okay. [01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:42.000] I wanted to call you back. [01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:43.000] All right. [01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:44.000] Thank you so much. [01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:45.000] Okay. [01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:46.000] Thank you, Charles. [01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:48.000] Now we're going to go to Kenny in Texas. [01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:50.000] Hello, Kenny. [01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:52.000] Hello, Randy. [01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:55.000] What do you have for us today? [01:25:55.000 --> 01:26:01.000] It's such an unmitigated honor for me to be able to speak. [01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:04.000] Thank you for having me on the show. [01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:23.000] I wanted to tell you that it's hard to articulate my gratitude and all the others that have been helped already by your mentorship and your kind ministry that you share with us each week. [01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:33.000] So I wanted to say thank you and I'm sure that all of us will join in sending our sorrows to losing your friend. [01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:45.000] I heard him a couple of times, but even then I knew in my heart, my spirit, that he was a senior veteran in this fight. [01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:46.000] Oh, he was. [01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:50.000] He was an absolute wonderful human being. [01:26:50.000 --> 01:27:00.000] He is happy tonight knowing that you're taking up his mantle and forging ahead. [01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:13.000] Specifically tonight, I wanted to let the audience, listening audience, and especially if Scott Richardson is hearing tonight, [01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:30.000] last week you were telling him that it takes time for the seeds to germinate and it's not instantaneous success with these issues that are brought there through your tutelage. [01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:40.000] I stumbled on a recently published YouTube video, which was published July 21st of this year. [01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:54.000] I sent you the link, but two minutes into that video, a news clip that's about four minutes long, two minutes long, I'm sorry, two minutes long, [01:27:54.000 --> 01:28:05.000] it validates exactly what you've been telling us all these years, even though I'm just a two month veteran of discovering you. [01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:11.000] And for that, I will ever be grateful to the Lord for bringing you away. [01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:24.000] But in this video, it validates you and your message, not only to Scott, but any of us that are fighting or deciding to fight this fight. [01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:38.000] The video starts with a police officer punching a handcuffed suspect or whatever, putting him in the car, punching him in the face, [01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:49.000] and then it's switched over to the borough manager, which this is a center, I guess the venue is up in Pennsylvania. [01:28:49.000 --> 01:29:03.000] But the borough manager said that he had to close the police department because both of his two officers had been charged through, [01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:10.000] I guess, litigation through angry people that had been mistreated. [01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:23.000] So they had to file against their bond, and he told the news reporter that the insurance rate for their life, [01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:30.000] the city's liability insurance has gone up 10 times. [01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:32.000] Wonderful. [01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:43.000] They showed the empty police department and the two cars sitting there empty. And I thought, I raised my fist in the air and jerked it down like this. [01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:48.000] Yes, yes, yes, Randy is right. And so... [01:29:48.000 --> 01:30:02.000] Okay, okay, hang on, about to go to break. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Radio, we'll be right back. 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[01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:38.000] And that is really good to hear, because that's not something that I've got much feedback about. [01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:45.000] You know, I was sure that filing against public official raises their bonds, but I didn't get much feedback about it. [01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:49.000] That is wonderful news. [01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:50.000] Well, thank you. [01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:53.000] And I put a link to the email. [01:33:53.000 --> 01:34:03.000] But for those listening, it's called the Top 20 Instant Karma Failures of 2016 Part 2. [01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:11.000] And the video that I'm talking about starts at the timestamp 222 and runs a couple of minutes. [01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:15.000] And I thought, yes, Randy is telling the truth. [01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:21.000] And it just confirms and also validates what you knew anyway. [01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:27.000] But yes, it is feedback from even Pennsylvania that this kind of stuff is working. [01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:35.000] Now, the politics, the insurance companies, these guys can't control the insurance companies. [01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:39.000] As much power as they have, the insurance companies are bigger. [01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:42.000] So this is where we've been beating them up. [01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:52.000] And that was really good to hear, that they had to shut down the police department because their insurance got too high. [01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.000] That should be good news for everyone. [01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:59.000] Well, judges have bonds the same way. [01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:02.000] Go ahead. [01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:05.000] I only had one other question. [01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:17.000] When they do not take you to the magistrate for a alleged fixed violation, [01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:24.000] and they try to do the arraignment on when you come to see the magistrate, [01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.000] I'm aware that they need to give you at least one day notice. [01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:39.000] But my interest also arises, how in the world does the judge get the information? [01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:43.000] Is that ex parte with the magistrate? [01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:49.000] Okay, that is a good question. [01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:55.000] Okay, before I answered that question, you asked it right, and I didn't listen long enough. [01:35:55.000 --> 01:36:04.000] You made a very clear distinction between the magistrate and the judge. [01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.000] Here's how it's supposed to work. [01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:12.000] A criminal complaint is presented to a magistrate. [01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:16.000] The criminal complaint can be based on hearsay. [01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:26.000] The complaint is sufficient to give the magistrate jurisdiction to make a determination of probable cause. [01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:33.000] A criminal complaint is not sufficient to give a trial court jurisdiction to try the cause. [01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:35.000] It must go to the magistrate first. [01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:43.000] The magistrate must make a determination of probable cause under 16.17, Texas Code of Criminal Procedure. [01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:50.000] And if there has been no warrant issued, he must prepare a warrant under 1620. [01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:57.000] And then he must seal all documents had in the hearing, cause his name to be written across the seal of the envelope. [01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.000] It says seal all documents. [01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:12.000] The defendant's statement, if there is any, and all other documents had in the hearing, see 16.01, [01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:20.000] gives the defendant the opportunity to make a statement before anything is presented against him. [01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:24.000] So the defendant gets the first say. [01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:34.000] And then the magistrate is to seal all documents had in the hearing, cause his name to be written across the seal of the envelope, [01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:37.000] and forward it to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction. [01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:43.000] That's how jurisdiction moves from the magistrate to the court. [01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:58.000] Without the subject matter, without the determination of a magistrate after an examining trial, the way I read the code, the court can't have jurisdiction. [01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:01.000] Does that make sense, Kenny? [01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:04.000] Exactly. It makes perfect sense. [01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:13.000] But they're doing it willy-nilly as the old adage, why does a dog lick himself? And he knows what that is. [01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:15.000] Here's how it happened. [01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:18.000] But anyway, I didn't mean that crass, Deborah. [01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:34.000] In 1965, they changed 14.01 and 15.17. 14.01, I'm sorry, 14.01 and 14.06. [01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:46.000] 14.01 says, authorizes a police officer to arrest someone for an on-site offense, that is, a breach of the peace or a felony. [01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:49.000] They added paragraph P. [01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:59.000] Paragraph B says that an officer can arrest someone for any on-site offense. [01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:04.000] Now that's in direct contradiction to paragraph A. [01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:11.000] Paragraph A restricts it to a felony or breach of the peace. [01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:15.000] Paragraph B just invalidates paragraph A. [01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:24.000] And then 14.06 says that if a person's arrested for any reason with or without a warrant, they're to be taken directly to the nearest magistrate. [01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:37.000] And the magistrate is, if the magistrate is not available, they're to take him to the nearest county where a magistrate is available. [01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:45.000] And the magistrate is to immediately perform the duties as defined in 15.17. [01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:58.000] 15.17 tells the magistrate he's to issue primarily the Miranda warnings and notice of bail or set bail if allowed by law. [01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:01.000] What's the problem with all that? [01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:12.000] What happened was is now every time you're taken, you're arrested, you're taken before a magistrate and they hold a hearing under 15.17. [01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:22.000] But 15.17 was only allowed when you were taken to a foreign county, to a surrounding county where a magistrate was available. [01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:28.000] That judge had to issue the warnings under 15.17. [01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:35.000] They took that to mean no matter what, they left out the part that it was a foreign county. [01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:55.000] And this had the effect of completely bypassing Chapter 16, completely bypassing a requirement to bring before a magistrate for an examining trial that had been in law since 1216 A.D. [01:40:55.000 --> 01:41:04.000] 800 years or 735 years. [01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.000] This just negated all of that. [01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:13.000] And that's because of a misinterpretation of the law. [01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:24.000] They saw something they thought fit their administrative convenience and adjudicative expediency and bypassed all the due process rights. [01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:31.000] Those two changes in 1965 is what created this police state. [01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:36.000] It's just looking at them, they don't look like a big deal. [01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:41.000] Paragraph B, the police officer may arrest a person for any on-site offense. [01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:51.000] I mean, that don't look like it's going to undermine the whole legal system or criminal justice system. [01:41:51.000 --> 01:42:04.000] And 1517, it doesn't look like it would, but right now if you are arrested or accused of a crime in Texas, you're going to take a deal. [01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:19.000] The average conviction rate in the state of Texas for all crimes across the board, 99.6, rounds up to 100. [01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:23.000] Everybody takes the deal. [01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:40.000] And the reason everybody takes the deal is every step from arrest to trial, as presently practiced in the state of Texas and most every other state I've looked at, is not only wrong. [01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:49.000] It is very specifically against particular law, and it's not just against particular law. [01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:54.000] It's against law for a very specific reason. [01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:05.000] And the reason is, is to force anyone accused of crime into a position where they have no reasonable alternative to taking a deal. [01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:10.000] This allows the judge and the prosecutor to clear their docket. [01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:21.000] It also creates a situation to where the judges assign, instead of assigning fee fines, they assign probation time. [01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:26.000] The probation fees go to the county instead of the general fund. [01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:29.000] This is all a dollar flow scam. [01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:33.000] The whole mess is about money. [01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.000] It has nothing to do with justice. [01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.000] It has nothing to do with protecting our safety. [01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:41.000] It's all about money. [01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:43.000] Hang on, about to go to break. 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[01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:33.000] Okay. [01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.000] Go ahead, Kitty. [01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:36.000] Hey, Gal. [01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:38.000] I'll jump off. [01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:39.000] Wait, wait, wait. [01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:40.000] Hold on. [01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:43.000] You sound like you've got a bee in your throat. [01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:50.000] Again, my prayers are with you concerning your loss, our congregational loss. [01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:54.000] And anyway, thank you, brother, and keep fighting the fight. [01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:57.000] I look forward to hearing you tomorrow night. [01:46:57.000 --> 01:46:58.000] Okay. [01:46:58.000 --> 01:46:59.000] Thank you, Kitty. [01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:00.000] Okay. [01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:01.000] Now we're going to go to Oliver. [01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:02.000] Let's see. [01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:03.000] Okay. [01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:09.000] Before we go to Oliver, I do need to remind everybody we're finishing up our fundraiser. [01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:18.000] We've had to extend it because we haven't got enough in the fundraiser to keep the network on the air. [01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:20.000] We're struggling to keep this thing on the air. [01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:32.000] So if you have some products or services you need that we could provide, go to logosradionetwork.com. [01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.000] Look at our providers there. [01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:44.000] And if you can, drop us a donation to help keep this network on the air because we're kind of struggling here. [01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:46.000] We appreciate any help. [01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:52.000] And at the same time, don't forget Randy's Beer Fund. [01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:54.000] Okay. [01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:56.000] Now we're going to Oliver in Texas. [01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:58.000] Hello, Oliver. [01:47:58.000 --> 01:47:59.000] How you doing, Randy? [01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:01.000] I'm doing good. [01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:02.000] You're doing good. [01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:08.000] I sent you the e-mails with those codes that you wanted to look over. [01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:11.000] I don't know if you had any chance to look at them. [01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:12.000] Yes. [01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:13.000] I glanced through them. [01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:15.000] I didn't have time to study them. [01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:18.000] And frankly, I didn't remember the context of them. [01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:22.000] So I didn't really know how to evaluate them. [01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:23.000] Okay. [01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:32.000] One of them was a committee to foreign code and law. [01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:33.000] Yes. [01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:36.000] I was having a little difficulty with foreign code. [01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:40.000] Why are we going to foreign code? [01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.000] It's saying foreign, that's the way it is defined. [01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:45.000] Okay. [01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:48.000] Let me paraphrase this. [01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:56.000] If I read that right, we're going to good faith and, oh, [01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:02.000] we forget that last term where we're taking code from another state [01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:06.000] and using it here where we don't have a code that addresses that issue. [01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:10.000] Am I correct in that? [01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:11.000] Right. [01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:18.000] Are there any building codes or codes or structure codes for public safety? [01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:20.000] Okay. [01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:29.000] Those only apply where the state of Tennessee hasn't addressed the issue. [01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:41.000] So what issues are you drawing foreign code from that the state of Tennessee has not addressed? [01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:45.000] Well, it's not a foreign code that is not addressed. [01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.000] It is addressed. [01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:51.000] The buildings and codes, they adopted a foreign code, [01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:55.000] which is in their building of code from that. [01:49:55.000 --> 01:50:03.000] Okay. Most all states have adopted universal codes, universal building code, [01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:10.000] electrical code, plumbing code, and then they make adjustments to it. [01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.000] That's what they mean by foreign code. [01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.000] Like when I went and read the definition. [01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:15.000] Okay. No, no. [01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:19.000] It's not a foreign code anymore once they adopted it. [01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:21.000] I understand. [01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:23.000] But they're referencing it. [01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:31.000] They're referencing that as in foreign codes are codes that are adopted from these codes [01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:35.000] or these sets of categories. [01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:36.000] Okay. Wait a minute. [01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:38.000] I'm not sure I understand that. [01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:42.000] When the state of Tennessee adopted these codes, [01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:49.000] did the state of Tennessee give them separate designations under Tennessee law, [01:50:49.000 --> 01:51:00.000] or did they use the designations in the universal codes or in the codes they adopted? [01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.000] The definition of what? [01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:04.000] Okay. [01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:12.000] Did when the state of Tennessee adopted, say, the universal building code, [01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:21.000] did they use the designations in the universal building code to specify the specific codes, [01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:26.000] or did they come up with their own numbering scheme? [01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:28.000] Yes. [01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:29.000] That was an either or. [01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:33.000] That can't be answered with a yes. [01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:34.000] What is an either or? [01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:36.000] What is their own scheme? [01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:43.000] Did they adopt a new set of numbering or did they use the numbering that was already in the code? [01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:46.000] A new set of number. [01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:48.000] Okay. They're citing Tennessee code. [01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:52.000] That's not foreign code. [01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:53.000] Okay. [01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:56.000] It doesn't matter where they got it from. [01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:00.000] If they adopted it, it's not foreign code. [01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:01.000] I understand. [01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:06.000] But it includes city codes. [01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:11.000] I mean, if you read it, if you read it carefully, you'll see that it includes city codes, [01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:13.000] which I understand you're saying. [01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:14.000] Wait a minute. [01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:17.000] You're using a pronoun, it. [01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.000] What does it you refer to? [01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.000] The statute. [01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:26.000] The statute. [01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:29.000] Which statute? [01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.000] Okay, it's not clear here. [01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:37.000] Does every single statute in the state of Tennessee refer to a foreign statute? [01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:44.000] Are you talking about only the building code, electrical code, the municipal ordinances? [01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:46.000] I don't know what you're referring to. [01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:47.000] Right. [01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:48.000] Those. [01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:49.000] Not the statutes. [01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:51.000] The statutes are laws. [01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:53.000] It clarifies that. [01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:58.000] Codes are building codes and all those that you just referenced. [01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.000] Okay. [01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:06.000] So what are you referring to in terms of a foreign code? [01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:11.000] It's saying that natural persons are exempt. [01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:17.000] That code is saying that these are the. [01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:18.000] No, wait a minute. [01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:20.000] You're using pronouns. [01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:22.000] Okay. [01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:23.000] Stop using pronouns. [01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:24.000] It's tough, I know. [01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:25.000] I know. [01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:26.000] It's hard to do. [01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:28.000] That code. [01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:33.000] See, I don't have referential index for that code. [01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.000] I can guess at it. [01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:38.000] But in law, we can't guess. [01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:43.000] If a lawyer gets an opportunity to guess, he's going to deliberately guess wrong. [01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:45.000] So that code, what specifically. [01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:55.000] When you get a chance to go look at it, when you get a chance to go look at it again, you'll read it and understand the interpretation that I'm trying to tell you. [01:53:55.000 --> 01:54:01.000] It says committee to foreign code, foreign codes or laws. [01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:07.000] And then in the definition, it defines what foreign codes are. [01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:11.000] And it tells you municipality codes. [01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000] It gives you clear definitions of what they are. [01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:18.000] I understand what you're arguing, but you didn't have a chance to look at it. [01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:19.000] No, I'm not arguing. [01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:23.000] I'm trying to figure out where you're at. [01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:25.000] Chapter definition. [01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:29.000] I can't explain it to you because your mind works so complex. [01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:32.000] I can't explain it to you until you look at it yourself. [01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:36.000] Then you'll start understanding what I was trying to say. [01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:37.000] Okay. [01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:41.000] I have three emails here, and I'm trying to figure out which one you're referring to. [01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:48.000] Charges for defraying costs of representing indigent defendants. [01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:50.000] Is that the one you're referring to? [01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:55.000] No, but that one is about the statute about the attorneys, [01:54:55.000 --> 01:55:01.000] you being charging fees of indigency when they're not supposed to charge you fees. [01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:05.000] The state is supposed to render those charges. [01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:07.000] Oh, okay. [01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.000] And you're saying these are foreign codes? [01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:11.000] No, no, no. [01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:14.000] That one right there, I sent you that one. [01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:20.000] I'm just giving you the parameters of the information on that statute, [01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:23.000] but that's not the statute that we're talking about. [01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:31.000] We're talking about the, I think it's 20-15-something, foreign committee to foreign code. [01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:40.000] 20-15-103, let's see, 20-15-101. [01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:45.000] Chapter definition is used in this chapter, foreign law, legal code or system, [01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:52.000] means any law, legal code or system of a jurisdiction outside of any state [01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:58.000] or territory of the United States, including but not limited to international organizations [01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:03.000] and tribunals that are applied by that jurisdiction's courts, administrative bodies, [01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:09.000] or other formal or informal tribunals. [01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:12.000] Is this the one you're referring to? [01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:14.000] Right. [01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:15.000] Okay. [01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:20.000] This one will not allow you to bring a state code from another state. [01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:26.000] This is, when this says foreign, it means outside of the United States. [01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:30.000] Let me read 20-15-102. [01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:35.000] It is the public policy of the state that the primary factor which a court, [01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:40.000] administrative agency, arbitrator, mediator, or other entity or person acting under the authority [01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:46.000] of the state law shall consider in granting comity to a decision. [01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:53.000] Rendered under any foreign law, legal code or system against a natural person in the United States [01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:59.000] is whether the decision rendered either violated or would violate any right of the material person [01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:05.000] in the state and guaranteed by the Tennessee Constitution, United States Constitution, [01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:10.000] or any statute or decision under those conditions, constitutions. [01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:12.000] I don't know where you're going. [01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:18.000] These all go to outside codes outside the United States. [01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:23.000] So what is this referring to? [01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:25.000] Why did you send me to here? [01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:33.000] The building codes, the building and codes, the ones that they use to come and demolish my house [01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:39.000] and take property off my house, it's tied into foreign code. [01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:42.000] So what? It's a universal building code. [01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:43.000] Right. [01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:49.000] But the state of Tennessee adopted the universal building code. [01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:52.000] So it's no longer a foreign code. It's a state code. [01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:56.000] I know, but if you read it carefully, they said that... [01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:01.000] Read what? This is huge. What are you going to? [01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:05.000] What specifically are you referring to? [01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:12.000] I'm saying that when in granting permission to do that, you cannot violate their rights. [01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:13.000] Yeah. [01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:15.000] Any code cannot violate their rights. [01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:21.000] No, but they're not using a foreign code. They're using a state code. [01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:22.000] Okay. [01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:23.000] And we're out of time. [01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:28.000] The universal building code is a state of Tennessee building code. [01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:32.000] They adopted it. It's no longer a foreign code. [01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:34.000] It's included in there. [01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:36.000] Okay. Wait, wait. We're out of time. We're out of time. [01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:39.000] This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue La Rio. [01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:42.000] We'll be back tomorrow night for our four-hour info marathon. [01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:51.000] Thank you all for listening, and good night. [01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:35.000] We'll see you next time. [01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:58.000] We'll see you next time.