[00:00.000 --> 00:06.000] The following newsflash is brought to you by the Lone Star Lowdown, providing the daily [00:06.000 --> 00:08.000] bulletins for the commodities market. [00:08.000 --> 00:21.000] Today in history, news updates and the inside scoop into the tides of the alternatives. [00:21.000 --> 00:28.000] Markets for Wednesday, the 13th of July, 2016, are currently treading with gold at $1,342.60 an ounce. [00:28.000 --> 00:33.000] Silver, $20.33 an ounce. Texas crude, $46.80 a barrel. [00:33.000 --> 00:44.000] And Bitcoin is currently sitting at about $661 U.S. currency. [00:44.000 --> 00:52.000] Today in history, the year 1793, journalist and French revolutionary Jean-Paul Marat is assassinated in his bathtub by [00:52.000 --> 01:01.000] Charlotte Corday, a member of the opposing political faction. Today in history. [01:01.000 --> 01:06.000] In recent news, BitTorrent announced a live streaming TV news network today, which is scheduled to launch next week [01:06.000 --> 01:11.000] during the Republican National Convention. With BitTorrent TV being announced not too long ago, this new project, [01:11.000 --> 01:18.000] BitTorrent News, seeks to disrupt and exploit the weaknesses in traditional cable news networks in order to attract viewers. [01:18.000 --> 01:23.000] Eric Schwartz, vice president of media for BitTorrent, said in a statement that, quote, [01:23.000 --> 01:29.000] television news has been staggering for some time now. It's having trouble appealing to a generation that grew up online. [01:29.000 --> 01:35.000] We're building BitTorrent News to solve that problem. We're using superior data and tools and the Silicon Valley ethos [01:35.000 --> 01:41.000] of lean startup to hold a nimble news organization that will learn quickly from the user's behavior. [01:41.000 --> 01:46.000] And though they were seeking to be a thorn in the side of the mainstream, BitTorrent did announce last week that [01:46.000 --> 01:51.000] former CNN journalist Harrison Bormann will serve as news director for BitTorrent News. [01:51.000 --> 01:57.000] It is set to launch covering the Republican National Convention next week and will be focusing on commentary of the delegate's speeches. [01:57.000 --> 02:02.000] The schedule consists of a daily 10 to 12 hour live coverage, and the app will be available through their service [02:02.000 --> 02:10.000] BitTorrent Live, which is available on Apple TV at Groupon. [02:10.000 --> 02:17.000] A man in his 20s armed with an AK-47 entered a Waffle House in DeSoto, Texas at 2.30 a.m. on July 7th. [02:17.000 --> 02:22.000] After robbing several of the customers and walking out of the diner, a customer followed him and attempted to stop him. [02:22.000 --> 02:27.000] The customer then called out the robber who turned and pointed the rifle at him, but before he could even realize it, [02:27.000 --> 02:30.000] the customer had fired several shots from his concealed handgun. [02:30.000 --> 02:35.000] The robber was transported to a local hospital where he remains in critical condition and on life support. [02:35.000 --> 02:40.000] Luckily, the vigilante had a Texas handgun license to carry, which allows a licensee to carry a handgun, [02:40.000 --> 02:45.000] concealed or openly, in a wide array of conditions and locations. [02:45.000 --> 02:50.000] The Lone Star Lowdown is created for sponsors. If you have a product or a service you'd like to advertise with us, [02:50.000 --> 03:05.000] feel free to give me a call at 210-363-2257. This is Brooke Rody with your Lowdown for July 13th, 2016. [03:20.000 --> 03:24.000] Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do? [03:27.000 --> 03:32.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:32.000 --> 03:38.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:38.000 --> 03:43.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule. [03:43.000 --> 03:49.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool? If you get fucked then you must get cool. [03:49.000 --> 03:54.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:54.000 --> 04:00.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:00.000 --> 04:06.000] You took it on that one, you took it on this one, you took it on your mother and you took it on your father. [04:06.000 --> 04:17.000] Okay, howdy, howdy. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, on this, the 14th day of July, 2016. [04:17.000 --> 04:24.000] We're halfway through another year already, and it's frightening how fast these are going. [04:24.000 --> 04:31.000] We do have a caller from, Oliver from Tennessee, but he hasn't been screened yet, so we'll pick him up in a minute. [04:31.000 --> 04:46.000] I have been doing some interesting research. I came across a case on the foreclosure issue that seems to give us, [04:46.000 --> 04:53.000] well, it lends support to a direction that I've been taking for quite a while, [04:53.000 --> 05:03.000] and that is instead of going after these standard securitizations, split the note indeed of trust, [05:03.000 --> 05:13.000] and show me the note arguments and complaints about MERS, which I believe are all issues that the banks put in front of us, [05:13.000 --> 05:20.000] so we would chase those because they were the hardest issues to prove up and adjudicate, [05:20.000 --> 05:28.000] that something much easier and less complex is contractual violations. [05:28.000 --> 05:38.000] And I was reading through some cases, doing research for an appeal out of New York that I was writing for a fellow, [05:38.000 --> 05:59.000] and came across a case where they claimed that a violation of the housing and urban development rules and laws amounted to a violation of the deed of trust. [05:59.000 --> 06:08.000] And this is exactly one of the arguments that we've been bringing that under Covenant 16, it's either 15 or 16, most of the time it's 16, [06:08.000 --> 06:14.000] it's the applicable law and severability covenant. [06:14.000 --> 06:19.000] It's the covenant that says if anything in this contract is in violation of any law, [06:19.000 --> 06:25.000] then that portion of the contract is void without voiding the rest of the contract. [06:25.000 --> 06:32.000] And in that covenant, both parties also agree to abide by all relevant law. [06:32.000 --> 06:50.000] And this was the first case I had come across where the courts ruled that violations of laws relating to the mortgage instrument did in fact violate the covenant of the deed of trust. [06:50.000 --> 06:57.000] I'm researching that out, that will make a very interesting argument to start bringing in the courts. [06:57.000 --> 07:06.000] And I'm working on, I'm studying Rule 12b6 and how to beat Rule 12b6. [07:06.000 --> 07:20.000] I had one of my motions to reconsider in the New York Supreme Court, the Supreme Court is a lower court in New York. [07:20.000 --> 07:32.000] I had one of those tossed and I used the memorandum that the court provided and ripped to shreds. [07:32.000 --> 07:49.000] And I'm trying to use that to construct exactly how to file an opposition to a Rule 12 or exactly how to write a pleading so that you get around the Rule 12b6 dismissals. [07:49.000 --> 07:55.000] Anybody who's tried to sue the either state or Fed, if you sue in the state, no matter what, [07:55.000 --> 08:02.000] they will remove it to the Fed and the Fed will take jurisdiction no matter what, if you're pro se. [08:02.000 --> 08:09.000] And then the other side will follow Rule 12b6, the judge will dismiss it no matter what. [08:09.000 --> 08:18.000] So I'm trying to get a pleading that while the trial judge will dismiss it, we may get it. [08:18.000 --> 08:23.000] And once we get it past the trial judge to the court of appeals, we may actually get that thing. [08:23.000 --> 08:26.000] The trial judge's dismissal overturned. [08:26.000 --> 08:27.000] Okay. [08:27.000 --> 08:29.000] We do have a caller, Oliver from Tennessee. [08:29.000 --> 08:31.000] Hello, Oliver. [08:31.000 --> 08:34.000] What do you have for us today? [08:34.000 --> 08:36.000] How you doing? [08:36.000 --> 08:41.000] Well, I got my lawsuit pretty much written up. [08:41.000 --> 08:44.000] I was investigating, looking at different ways. [08:44.000 --> 08:54.000] And I realized, I decided that to have a, because I had a car and a property that was involved, [08:54.000 --> 08:56.000] I mean cars and property. [08:56.000 --> 09:06.000] And I looked underneath the action to recover property and exclusively said that this action is not limited [09:06.000 --> 09:13.000] to any other actions that can be brought because of the action, I mean of the offense that occurred. [09:13.000 --> 09:25.000] This action is to be brought to recover action and is not limiting to other further actions as far as limited [09:25.000 --> 09:31.000] to the statute of limitations as long as you come in and file it within the statute of limitations act. [09:31.000 --> 09:41.000] So they're saying this is a private cause of action or a specific cause of action that's separate [09:41.000 --> 09:51.000] from any other claims like, you know, if they cost you money or defamed you or whatever. [09:51.000 --> 09:59.000] If I can sue them in another aspect of it, I still have the right to do that, [09:59.000 --> 10:02.000] even though I sued and recovered my property. [10:02.000 --> 10:09.000] They're saying that when you get harm, when you get a remuneration for your harm, [10:09.000 --> 10:18.000] when you get made whole for this claim, this being made whole here doesn't bar any other claims [10:18.000 --> 10:24.000] because they would say, well, he already was made whole in that other suit so he can't make this claim. [10:24.000 --> 10:28.000] And this is making a distinction that you certainly can make. [10:28.000 --> 10:30.000] That's a good, that's wonderful. [10:30.000 --> 10:32.000] That means you get to sue them again. [10:32.000 --> 10:33.000] Right, right. [10:33.000 --> 10:40.000] And underneath the same, I have to reword it, but underneath the same, underneath the same thing. [10:40.000 --> 10:46.000] So my issue is now, now I forgot, I get to sue them twice. [10:46.000 --> 10:54.000] How do, like, when you use the summons, when you summons the city, who do you send the summons to? [10:54.000 --> 11:02.000] Because I figured out how to write out the claim and I wanted to get your email address and send it to you so I could see it. [11:02.000 --> 11:11.000] Okay, my email is Randy, R-E-N-D-Y at ruleoflawradio.com. [11:11.000 --> 11:18.000] But who you serve, generally you would have either the mayor or the city manager. [11:18.000 --> 11:24.000] You can call the city secretary and tell her you have service to be filed on the city. [11:24.000 --> 11:26.000] Who do you want to receive service? [11:26.000 --> 11:29.000] And they'll tell you. [11:29.000 --> 11:33.000] You said call who? [11:33.000 --> 11:44.000] Yeah, just call the city and get any of the secretaries and ask them who receives service for the city. [11:44.000 --> 11:50.000] And they'll give you a place to send it and that will be bona fide. [11:50.000 --> 11:52.000] Once you send it there, they can't complain. [11:52.000 --> 11:58.000] Actually, I was reading a case today as well on service. [11:58.000 --> 12:12.000] And this was a lender that had a special address to send QWRs, the qualified written request. [12:12.000 --> 12:26.000] That address was separate from its other addresses and this plaintiff sent a QWR to the address on the spilling statement. [12:26.000 --> 12:31.000] And then when they filed a suit based on failure to answer the QWR, [12:31.000 --> 12:34.000] the other side claimed that they didn't send it to the right address. [12:34.000 --> 12:37.000] And the court upheld that. [12:37.000 --> 12:38.000] Right. [12:38.000 --> 12:41.000] So that means we've got to be careful. [12:41.000 --> 12:48.000] Always contact the litigant and ask them where they want to be served. [12:48.000 --> 12:51.000] Contact who? [12:51.000 --> 13:00.000] I guess that's why I'm kind of – because I'm suing the city, I've included the mayor in there as far as administration. [13:00.000 --> 13:06.000] It's like the 1983 suit that I found where I could fit her in and other people. [13:06.000 --> 13:11.000] So you sued the mayor as respondee at Superior. [13:11.000 --> 13:12.000] Right. [13:12.000 --> 13:18.000] But I'm not trying to sue her in her personal capacity, I guess. [13:18.000 --> 13:20.000] I just want to say the city court. [13:20.000 --> 13:21.000] Yes. [13:21.000 --> 13:29.000] So when you sue a governmental entity, you generally name the head of the agency. [13:29.000 --> 13:35.000] But it's not really – the courts have said this is not a suit against the person. [13:35.000 --> 13:40.000] It's a suit against the agency. [13:40.000 --> 13:45.000] So the mayor won't take that personal. [13:45.000 --> 13:48.000] So are you saying I should send it to the mayor? [13:48.000 --> 13:50.000] Should I get it sent to the mayor? [13:50.000 --> 13:51.000] No. [13:51.000 --> 13:56.000] I'm saying call the city and ask them who receives service for them. [13:56.000 --> 13:57.000] Call the city. [13:57.000 --> 13:58.000] Okay. [13:58.000 --> 13:59.000] I understand. [13:59.000 --> 14:13.000] Sometimes if you're suing an entity, like if you're suing one of the lenders, like in California, they have companies that all they do is receive service. [14:13.000 --> 14:18.000] It's a separate company, different address than the lender. [14:18.000 --> 14:21.000] But this is a company that receives service for the lender. [14:21.000 --> 14:31.000] This way they don't have constables marching into their offices with their badges and guns and waving paperwork around. [14:31.000 --> 14:34.000] They take it to a separate company. [14:34.000 --> 14:41.000] So sometimes it's always best to contact the defendant and ask them where they want to be served. [14:41.000 --> 14:47.000] The defendant, so should I call the insurance company that denied the claim? [14:47.000 --> 14:50.000] Yes. [14:50.000 --> 14:53.000] And ask them where they're served? [14:53.000 --> 14:54.000] Yeah. [14:54.000 --> 14:58.000] Where do you receive service or lawsuits? [14:58.000 --> 15:08.000] And they'll tell you because they get that stuff all the time, especially insurance companies. [15:08.000 --> 15:09.000] Okay. [15:09.000 --> 15:11.000] So am I suing this? [15:11.000 --> 15:12.000] And another question. [15:12.000 --> 15:19.000] That's a good, because now that the, I got a little saying that the insurance company said that Cargisville did not break any laws. [15:19.000 --> 15:30.000] And from talking to them, they're telling me that their procedures are calculating damage or wrong is by the laws and the statutes. [15:30.000 --> 15:36.000] So now can I sue the insurance company also for, let's say? [15:36.000 --> 15:38.000] No. [15:38.000 --> 15:42.000] You don't have a claim against the insurance company. [15:42.000 --> 15:45.000] The insurance company didn't insure you. [15:45.000 --> 15:47.000] They insured the city. [15:47.000 --> 15:51.000] So their only obligation is to the city. [15:51.000 --> 15:52.000] Exactly. [15:52.000 --> 15:54.000] Oh, the only obligation is to the city. [15:54.000 --> 16:01.000] So if the city is at fault for something and the insurance company said, well, they're not at fault. [16:01.000 --> 16:06.000] Well, the insurance company just denies the claim, but you don't care what they do. [16:06.000 --> 16:09.000] They're not denying the claim to you. [16:09.000 --> 16:13.000] They're denying the claim to the city. [16:13.000 --> 16:19.000] So if the insurance company pays, then the insurance company doesn't have to risk going to court. [16:19.000 --> 16:22.000] But they don't seem to mind going to court. [16:22.000 --> 16:24.000] So you just go ahead and sue them. [16:24.000 --> 16:36.000] Once you sue them, there's a good chance, depending on how good your suit is, a good chance they may come back and then try to make you a settlement off. [16:36.000 --> 16:37.000] Okay. [16:37.000 --> 16:38.000] Hang on. [16:38.000 --> 16:40.000] About to put a break. [16:40.000 --> 16:43.000] This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Root of Our Radio. [16:43.000 --> 16:47.000] Our call-in number, 512-646-1984. [16:47.000 --> 16:49.000] We're going to have the phone lines open all night. [16:49.000 --> 17:00.000] So if you have a question or comment, give us a call, we'll be right back. [17:00.000 --> 17:06.000] Through advances in technology, our lives have greatly improved, except in the area of nutrition. [17:06.000 --> 17:11.000] People feed their pets better than they feed themselves, and it's time we changed all that. 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[19:46.000 --> 19:52.000] When you sue the city, you're actually suing who insures the city. [19:52.000 --> 19:53.000] No. [19:53.000 --> 19:55.000] You're suing the city. [19:55.000 --> 19:56.000] Right. [19:56.000 --> 19:59.000] You don't, you're not, people want to sue insurance companies. [19:59.000 --> 20:03.000] You can't sue the insurance company unless it's your insurance company. [20:03.000 --> 20:08.000] If you paid for insurance and they deny a claim, then you would sue them. [20:08.000 --> 20:10.000] But when you sue the city... [20:10.000 --> 20:11.000] The insured. [20:11.000 --> 20:16.000] The city indemnifies, your insurance company indemnifies the city. [20:16.000 --> 20:23.000] So if the city leases in court, then the insurance company is supposed to come and pay off. [20:23.000 --> 20:27.000] If they don't pay off, then the city would sue the insurance company. [20:27.000 --> 20:29.000] You would not have a claim against them. [20:29.000 --> 20:31.000] Your claim is against the city. [20:31.000 --> 20:32.000] Okay. [20:32.000 --> 20:33.000] I understand. [20:33.000 --> 20:34.000] All right. [20:34.000 --> 20:35.000] Now I understand. [20:35.000 --> 20:36.000] All right. [20:36.000 --> 20:37.000] So I'm expressing the wrong view. [20:37.000 --> 20:38.000] All right. [20:38.000 --> 20:39.000] So I'm trying to trace the address. [20:39.000 --> 20:48.000] So the insurance company would tell me what address to send my summons to. [20:48.000 --> 20:51.000] Are you summoning the insurance company? [20:51.000 --> 20:52.000] Not summons. [20:52.000 --> 20:53.000] No, the city. [20:53.000 --> 20:54.000] Okay. [20:54.000 --> 21:02.000] Then why would you go to the insurance company to find out where to serve the city? [21:02.000 --> 21:10.000] Everywhere else I've called around really, as long as the insurance company gave me good [21:10.000 --> 21:13.000] information about the process. [21:13.000 --> 21:17.000] They're not the city, so they don't necessarily... [21:17.000 --> 21:23.000] Their statement of where to send service would not be authoritative. [21:23.000 --> 21:29.000] If you contact the city and the city tells you where to send service, that would be authoritative. [21:29.000 --> 21:35.000] Say you talk to the insurance company and they say, oh, send that over here to the city [21:35.000 --> 21:36.000] manager's office. [21:36.000 --> 21:40.000] So you send it to the city manager's office and they don't respond. [21:40.000 --> 21:42.000] So you petition for default judgment. [21:42.000 --> 21:45.000] When you get default judgment and they get notice of the default, they're going to say, [21:45.000 --> 21:47.000] wait a minute, we weren't served. [21:47.000 --> 21:48.000] Okay. [21:48.000 --> 21:49.000] So contact the mayor's office. [21:49.000 --> 21:52.000] You're going to say, well, the insurance company told me to send it there, and the [21:52.000 --> 21:55.000] courts are going to say, sorry, Bubba. [21:55.000 --> 21:56.000] Okay. [21:56.000 --> 21:58.000] So contact the mayor's office. [21:58.000 --> 21:59.000] Yeah. [21:59.000 --> 22:00.000] Okay. [22:00.000 --> 22:06.000] Since you are the master, I always like to go to the top. [22:06.000 --> 22:12.000] When I go to a corporation, I always want to talk to the president. [22:12.000 --> 22:15.000] I don't want to talk to these guys down on the bottom. [22:15.000 --> 22:18.000] If I talk to the city, I want to talk to the mayor. [22:18.000 --> 22:22.000] I'm restricted from talking to him. [22:22.000 --> 22:25.000] No, no, no. [22:25.000 --> 22:27.000] You're not restricted from talking to him. [22:27.000 --> 22:32.000] You're only restricted from discussing the case with him. [22:32.000 --> 22:33.000] Okay. [22:33.000 --> 22:35.000] And you're not even restricted there. [22:35.000 --> 22:39.000] He may be restricted, but you're not. [22:39.000 --> 22:42.000] Okay. [22:42.000 --> 22:43.000] All right. [22:43.000 --> 22:44.000] So thank you for that part. [22:44.000 --> 22:45.000] One more thing. [22:45.000 --> 22:51.000] You know about the situation that's been going on with the cops and people and racists killing [22:51.000 --> 22:53.000] cops and all that good stuff. [22:53.000 --> 23:01.000] It's very distressing and I understand how to fix it. [23:01.000 --> 23:05.000] And it's not a cop issue. [23:05.000 --> 23:06.000] It's not the policeman. [23:06.000 --> 23:08.000] It's training issue. [23:08.000 --> 23:10.000] Oh, I mean, yeah, I understand that aspect too. [23:10.000 --> 23:16.000] And that's why, because I understand that aspect, I was going because the way that they [23:16.000 --> 23:20.000] came about to be on my property and do all these things that they thought they had the [23:20.000 --> 23:21.000] right to. [23:21.000 --> 23:22.000] I apologize. [23:22.000 --> 23:26.000] I thought you were speaking to the shootings of police. [23:26.000 --> 23:27.000] No, no, I am. [23:27.000 --> 23:28.000] I am. [23:28.000 --> 23:29.000] I am. [23:29.000 --> 23:31.000] It's the same concept. [23:31.000 --> 23:34.000] They are taught. [23:34.000 --> 23:38.000] They are trained in the same way to where they run into situations which they shouldn't [23:38.000 --> 23:40.000] have been in the first place. [23:40.000 --> 23:50.000] Well, I was listening to a program the other day and the speaker was a city councilman, [23:50.000 --> 23:56.000] I think for the city of Austin, and he was saying, we simply don't have enough police [23:56.000 --> 23:57.000] officers. [23:57.000 --> 24:03.000] He's saying that a police officer may handle 15 to 20 calls a day. [24:03.000 --> 24:10.000] He goes in emergency mode from one emergency situation to the next, the next, and the next, [24:10.000 --> 24:11.000] the next. [24:11.000 --> 24:21.000] And it's hard for the policeman to shift gears into getting along with the public mode because [24:21.000 --> 24:24.000] he handles one crisis after another. [24:24.000 --> 24:25.000] Right. [24:25.000 --> 24:27.000] And I thought about that. [24:27.000 --> 24:35.000] I was in combat and I understand how adrenaline works. [24:35.000 --> 24:38.000] Adrenaline gets you cranked. [24:38.000 --> 24:41.000] And if you're not careful, you get addicted to it. [24:41.000 --> 24:45.000] And I see cops that are clearly addicted to adrenaline. [24:45.000 --> 24:48.000] They need to rush. [24:48.000 --> 24:55.000] When I came back from overseas, it was several years before I got, began to get control of [24:55.000 --> 24:56.000] that. [24:56.000 --> 24:59.000] And I see these policemen and I can see that in them. [24:59.000 --> 25:04.000] And they're going from one emergency to another, to another, to another. [25:04.000 --> 25:12.000] And then when they meet someone or interact with someone where it's not an emergency, it's [25:12.000 --> 25:17.000] sometimes, it's hard for them to come down. [25:17.000 --> 25:18.000] I couldn't be a policeman. [25:18.000 --> 25:23.000] I know that I don't have the temperament for it. [25:23.000 --> 25:27.000] It's a very difficult job. [25:27.000 --> 25:32.000] What we need is a different kind of training. [25:32.000 --> 25:39.000] Our policemen are trained to consider us civilians in an occupied country. [25:39.000 --> 25:42.000] And they are the occupiers. [25:42.000 --> 25:51.000] I was in a country where we were the occupiers and the indigenous population were the civilians. [25:51.000 --> 25:59.000] And I do not want my police thinking of me as a civilian. [25:59.000 --> 26:00.000] We are not civilians. [26:00.000 --> 26:02.000] We are the masters. [26:02.000 --> 26:05.000] They are the servants. [26:05.000 --> 26:08.000] We need to let them know that. [26:08.000 --> 26:15.000] So if we're going to fix this, we need to go after who is training these people. [26:15.000 --> 26:24.000] Who is telling these people that you are an occupier, that you must get absolute immediate [26:24.000 --> 26:26.000] obedience instantly. [26:26.000 --> 26:28.000] Otherwise your life is in danger. [26:28.000 --> 26:31.000] That's what they feel like. [26:31.000 --> 26:37.000] Any time a policeman asks me something and I don't answer his question immediately the [26:37.000 --> 26:44.000] way he wants me to, instinctively his hand goes to his pistol. [26:44.000 --> 26:47.000] That is frightening. [26:47.000 --> 26:51.000] I've asked more than one officer to take his hand off his pistol. [26:51.000 --> 26:56.000] And if he doesn't, I call 911 immediately. [26:56.000 --> 26:58.000] It's part of the training. [26:58.000 --> 27:02.000] I'm trying to train the officer. [27:02.000 --> 27:05.000] He claims he fears for his life. [27:05.000 --> 27:10.000] When you put your hand on your pistol while you're talking to me, I definitely fear for [27:10.000 --> 27:11.000] my life. [27:11.000 --> 27:13.000] So I want you to get that hand away from that. [27:13.000 --> 27:16.000] I consider that aggravated assault. [27:16.000 --> 27:22.000] And we as the individuals, we need to train our police. [27:22.000 --> 27:32.000] I have a presentation I'll be doing Sunday to a group in Georgia that are actively trying [27:32.000 --> 27:33.000] to change things. [27:33.000 --> 27:41.000] And they sent me some videos where they went to the city council and gave them notice of [27:41.000 --> 27:44.000] a number of criminal acts on the part of the city council. [27:44.000 --> 27:49.000] They're calling them no good rotten criminals and complaining that the prosecuting attorney, [27:49.000 --> 27:54.000] when they give the prosecuting attorney evidence, prosecuting attorney doesn't do anything with [27:54.000 --> 27:55.000] it. [27:55.000 --> 28:06.000] And this goes to a mindset that I am struggling to get changed. [28:06.000 --> 28:11.000] One of these individuals is a retired judge and ex chief of police. [28:11.000 --> 28:15.000] And he's stuck in the same mindset. [28:15.000 --> 28:25.000] He still has faith that the system will work and that all he has to do is give the system [28:25.000 --> 28:33.000] notice that something's wrong and the system will kick in gear and fix it. [28:33.000 --> 28:39.000] And I'm watching what's going on and I'm saying, no, no, no, no, that is not the way to do [28:39.000 --> 28:40.000] it. [28:40.000 --> 28:44.000] If you think the city council has committed crimes, the last place you want to go is the [28:44.000 --> 28:47.000] city council. [28:47.000 --> 28:53.000] First place you want to go is to some magistrate with criminal charges against the city council. [28:53.000 --> 28:56.000] You don't want to go to the prosecutor either. [28:56.000 --> 28:58.000] That's for police. [28:58.000 --> 28:59.000] Police go to prosecutors. [28:59.000 --> 29:00.000] We're not police. [29:00.000 --> 29:01.000] We're the masters. [29:01.000 --> 29:04.000] We go to judges or magistrates. [29:04.000 --> 29:09.000] And then when the magistrate doesn't act, we go to the next higher magistrate with criminal [29:09.000 --> 29:10.000] charges against him. [29:10.000 --> 29:13.000] We don't go down there and give them fair warning. [29:13.000 --> 29:16.000] We don't go down there and give them legal advice. [29:16.000 --> 29:22.000] You know, if you own a corporation and you walk past the mail room and the guy in the [29:22.000 --> 29:26.000] mail room's in there goofing off, texting on his cell phone when he's supposed to be [29:26.000 --> 29:30.000] putting up the mail, and you're the CEO, you're not going to go in there and chew that guy [29:30.000 --> 29:32.000] out. [29:32.000 --> 29:34.000] Not your job. [29:34.000 --> 29:36.000] You have a manager to take care of that. [29:36.000 --> 29:42.000] You're going to go chew out the executive vice president and head of that section. [29:42.000 --> 29:45.000] And he's going to go chew out the general manager. [29:45.000 --> 29:50.000] He's going to chew out this guy's supervisor, and the guy's supervisor will chew this guy [29:50.000 --> 29:51.000] out. [29:51.000 --> 29:54.000] Well, where are the CEOs here? [29:54.000 --> 29:56.000] We need to run them up to flagpole. [29:56.000 --> 29:57.000] Hang on. [29:57.000 --> 30:01.000] We'll be right back. [30:01.000 --> 30:03.000] Computer jargon can be confusing. [30:03.000 --> 30:05.000] Take SSL encryption. [30:05.000 --> 30:08.000] You may have heard the term, but did you know that using it could save you thousands of [30:08.000 --> 30:10.000] dollars and your privacy? [30:10.000 --> 30:14.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be back to tell you more in just a moment. [30:40.000 --> 30:50.000] SSL is short for secure socket flare, a way to transmit information securely over the [30:50.000 --> 30:51.000] Internet. 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[34:13.000 --> 34:20.000] And we talked to Deborah with the break on this, and she made a really good point. [34:20.000 --> 34:26.000] This one thing that the policemen are taught, make sure you go home tonight. [34:26.000 --> 34:30.000] What the heck is that crap? [34:30.000 --> 34:32.000] Make sure you go home tonight. [34:32.000 --> 34:40.000] That implies that every single citizen you speak to is likely to kill you. [34:40.000 --> 34:46.000] If you are so terrified of the public you're working for that you think every person out here [34:46.000 --> 34:51.000] is likely to kill you, so you have to be on edge, ready to defend yourself, [34:51.000 --> 34:59.000] get that pistol off your hip and go out and pick up dead cats and skunks off the highway, [34:59.000 --> 35:02.000] or you won't be killing our friends and neighbors. [35:02.000 --> 35:06.000] That is absolutely unacceptable. [35:06.000 --> 35:09.000] And this is a training. [35:09.000 --> 35:10.000] Right. [35:10.000 --> 35:12.000] We need that fixed. [35:12.000 --> 35:22.000] And the best way I've found to handle them is from the perspective that I am the CEO. [35:22.000 --> 35:27.000] The last time I got a ticket I didn't tell him anything. [35:27.000 --> 35:36.000] He asked me for my proof of insurance, and I said, I'll look it up on your computer. [35:36.000 --> 35:43.000] And he had already looked up on his computer that my registration was expired. [35:43.000 --> 35:51.000] And when he handed me the ticket I said, Bubba, I'm going to give you a romp through the legal system. [35:51.000 --> 35:54.000] You are not going to believe. [35:54.000 --> 35:55.000] And he said, oh, you are. [35:55.000 --> 35:57.000] I said, yes, I am. [35:57.000 --> 36:00.000] And we're both going to have great fun in the process. [36:00.000 --> 36:03.000] And he said, yes, somehow I don't think so. [36:03.000 --> 36:08.000] But didn't create any animosity there. [36:08.000 --> 36:13.000] And I didn't give him any fair warning. [36:13.000 --> 36:16.000] Bushwhack is so much better. [36:16.000 --> 36:19.000] All I told him was, I'm going to bushwhack you. [36:19.000 --> 36:21.000] And I did. [36:21.000 --> 36:23.000] They threw the case out. [36:23.000 --> 36:31.000] When I didn't show up for the initial hearing, the prosecuting attorney threw out the case because of the filings that I put in. [36:31.000 --> 36:35.000] The best way to handle them. [36:35.000 --> 36:47.000] And I'm speaking to this issue the way I am because this is a very carefully crafted approach. [36:47.000 --> 36:51.000] It has nothing to do with what's right or wrong. [36:51.000 --> 36:55.000] It has to do with what works well. [36:55.000 --> 37:12.000] If you think of the officer as abusing you or mistreating you unfairly, that will tend to cause you to react and respond in a very specific manner. [37:12.000 --> 37:22.000] And the officer is very familiar with people reacting and responding to him in that kind of manner. [37:22.000 --> 37:28.000] Angry, frustrated, betrayed, resistant, aggressive. [37:28.000 --> 37:31.000] He's very accustomed to that. [37:31.000 --> 37:33.000] And he knows how to handle that. [37:33.000 --> 37:41.000] So I'm trying to create a new toolbox, a new way of reacting and responding. [37:41.000 --> 37:47.000] If you think of him as the servant and you the master. [37:47.000 --> 37:55.000] And he is a low level servant that works for your chief of police who works for your mayor. [37:55.000 --> 38:00.000] If I have a problem with a local police officer, I am the master. [38:00.000 --> 38:04.000] I go to the head guy that I elected to run that office. [38:04.000 --> 38:07.000] I didn't let the chief of police. [38:07.000 --> 38:11.000] I elected the mayor and the mayor hired the chief of police. [38:11.000 --> 38:15.000] So I'm going to go crawl down the mayor's throat. [38:15.000 --> 38:18.000] And let the mayor crawl down the chief of police throat. [38:18.000 --> 38:20.000] Let the chief of police crawl down the sergeant's throat. [38:20.000 --> 38:22.000] And let the sergeant crawl down the corporal. [38:22.000 --> 38:27.000] And the corporal, the officer, the time it gets to the officer doesn't make any difference what he did. [38:27.000 --> 38:31.000] He's in trouble. [38:31.000 --> 38:33.000] This is how it worked in the military. [38:33.000 --> 38:36.000] This is how it works in most any organization. [38:36.000 --> 38:42.000] And the policemen want to act like a military organization. [38:42.000 --> 38:46.000] Well, let's introduce them to a little military bearing. [38:46.000 --> 38:55.000] And Deborah called me on the break about my presentation about how police are under a lot of stress and adrenaline. [38:55.000 --> 39:05.000] I was in combat and we had adrenaline pumping, but we didn't act like these police do. [39:05.000 --> 39:08.000] We were trained and we were disciplined. [39:08.000 --> 39:15.000] Just because we were cranked on adrenaline, we did not shoot civilians. [39:15.000 --> 39:20.000] Yeah, there are stories that some did, but there were people there who never should have been there. [39:20.000 --> 39:27.000] The vast majority of the military personnel did what they were ordered to do. [39:27.000 --> 39:30.000] And didn't matter if it frightened them. [39:30.000 --> 39:34.000] Didn't matter if they were terrified. [39:34.000 --> 39:42.000] They didn't pull the weapon and shoot somebody just because the person didn't do exactly what they said when they said how they said. [39:42.000 --> 39:45.000] We need to get this fixed. [39:45.000 --> 39:53.000] And what I do, I get two words out of an officer I don't like or I see his hand move toward his pistol. [39:53.000 --> 39:56.000] That gets a 911 call immediately. [39:56.000 --> 40:02.000] First thing, I want a third party intervening. [40:02.000 --> 40:14.000] I understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to use that concept because they came to my property to do this and they brought police with them. [40:14.000 --> 40:17.000] And if you want to find somebody, where you go? [40:17.000 --> 40:18.000] You go to their home. [40:18.000 --> 40:19.000] You go to their property. [40:19.000 --> 40:27.000] And if I'm supposed to have rights, of course, my property is going to be what I'm going to be using. [40:27.000 --> 40:31.000] My property is where my rights are going to stand the most. [40:31.000 --> 40:40.000] So if I have a right to bear arms, which I do, and I have arms, what would have happened if I decided to let some ledger loose? [40:40.000 --> 40:45.000] Because isn't this the basis of our country, your property? [40:45.000 --> 40:51.000] Yes, but in the real world we live in, you're outgunned. [40:51.000 --> 40:53.000] I understand that. [40:53.000 --> 40:54.000] I understand that. [40:54.000 --> 40:57.000] See, I'm trying to use your philosophy. [40:57.000 --> 41:00.000] We have other tools. [41:00.000 --> 41:06.000] In combat, you don't always win a battle with your weapons. [41:06.000 --> 41:10.000] No, I'm not condoning to do that. [41:10.000 --> 41:11.000] I'm just telling you that. [41:11.000 --> 41:14.000] I'm just stating that that could have been a circumstance. [41:14.000 --> 41:17.000] Yeah, I do understand the frustration. [41:17.000 --> 41:22.000] You understand it better than me because I'm not black. [41:22.000 --> 41:26.000] I'm not guilty of the crime of being black. [41:26.000 --> 41:29.000] I heard the president speaking. [41:29.000 --> 41:33.000] I don't have much use for the president, but I did. [41:33.000 --> 41:43.000] I could hear in his voice his frustration because he understands where you live better than I do. [41:43.000 --> 42:00.000] That when I move around, I don't have to look around and consider my situation and make sure that I handle myself exactly correct in this situation to keep the police from harassing me. [42:00.000 --> 42:02.000] I don't have to deal with that. [42:02.000 --> 42:08.000] If I did have to deal with that, I would have a very tough time. [42:08.000 --> 42:17.000] The few times I have to deal with the police, he gets my adrenaline pumping and I really want to work him over. [42:17.000 --> 42:24.000] If I had to deal with him the way you had to deal with him, I could fully understand how frustrating that can be. [42:24.000 --> 42:36.000] I don't want to say I understand why this guy opened up on all these policemen, but I do understand his frustration. [42:36.000 --> 42:40.000] I'm not trying to advocate or use it in an aggressive way. [42:40.000 --> 42:50.000] I'm trying to make the correlation between that I have a trial coming up and we have all these incidents coming up with situations happening and somebody ends up dying. [42:50.000 --> 42:53.000] I'm trying to make the correlation that there's a- [42:53.000 --> 42:54.000] Hold on. [42:54.000 --> 42:57.000] How long before your trial comes up? [42:57.000 --> 43:06.000] After I send you the information, I'm going to go ahead and file the paperwork in court. [43:06.000 --> 43:12.000] You've got some time because you want to subpoena every officer that was there. [43:12.000 --> 43:13.000] Right. [43:13.000 --> 43:17.000] I'm trying to make the correlation of the argument that I'm going to push in court. [43:17.000 --> 43:21.000] Am I allowed to make those references that, hey, I have a second amendment, right? [43:21.000 --> 43:23.000] I'm at my property. [43:23.000 --> 43:26.000] This is part of your suit. [43:26.000 --> 43:30.000] Have you made a claim for procedural due process violation? [43:30.000 --> 43:33.000] It's a 42 U.S. Code 1983 suit. [43:33.000 --> 43:39.000] That's what the 42 U.S. Code 1983 is, is a procedural due process. [43:39.000 --> 43:41.000] I'll explain that when I come back. [43:41.000 --> 43:51.000] It'll help you better understand what you should go after and police with pistols is something you should certainly go after. [43:51.000 --> 43:56.000] Hang on, about to go to break, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, and Rue de la Radio. [43:56.000 --> 43:57.000] Larry, I see you there. [43:57.000 --> 44:00.000] I'll call the number back too late. [44:00.000 --> 44:06.000] Hello, my name is Stuart Smith from naturespureorganics.com, [44:06.000 --> 44:11.000] and I would like to invite you to come by our store at 9204 Guadalupe Street, Sweet D. 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[45:52.000 --> 46:02.000] Please visit lulablawradio.com and click on the banner or call toll-free, 866-LAW-EZ. [46:02.000 --> 46:20.000] Music [46:20.000 --> 46:22.000] Okay, we are back. [46:22.000 --> 46:25.000] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Root of Law Radio. [46:25.000 --> 46:30.000] And it looks like Oliver dropped. He's coming back on, but he'll be back in a second. [46:30.000 --> 46:42.000] Oliver, a 42 U.S. Code 1983 suit is always a procedural or substantive due process suit. [46:42.000 --> 46:46.000] It's always a suit for breach of due process. [46:46.000 --> 46:58.000] So, back up and think of this only in terms of the rights you have and how they have violated those rights. [46:58.000 --> 47:07.000] And as to the policemen, you know, these guys brought people with guns. [47:07.000 --> 47:08.000] Right. [47:08.000 --> 47:18.000] I had the chief of police, who was a personal friend of mine, and the sheriff come to my house one day after I had filed criminal charges against the district judge. [47:18.000 --> 47:20.000] This was several years ago. [47:20.000 --> 47:28.000] And I invited him in, the chief came in, I stopped the sheriff, and I said, wait a minute, you have a pistol on. [47:28.000 --> 47:32.000] He said, well, I'm the sheriff. I said, yeah, you are, but you're in my house. [47:32.000 --> 47:35.000] If you want to come in my house, you need to take that pistol off. [47:35.000 --> 47:38.000] And he said, well, the chief is wearing one. [47:38.000 --> 47:41.000] Yeah, I trust him. [47:41.000 --> 47:44.000] You don't trust me? No, I don't. [47:44.000 --> 47:52.000] Well, I'm not leaving my pistol in the car and get the heck out of here. [47:52.000 --> 47:53.000] That's my position. [47:53.000 --> 47:57.000] Guns for me are a big deal. [47:57.000 --> 48:03.000] This guy I knew, if I needed protecting, he would protect me. [48:03.000 --> 48:06.000] And he was not going to shoot me. [48:06.000 --> 48:07.000] I didn't trust the sheriff. [48:07.000 --> 48:10.000] So, you don't come on my property with pistols. [48:10.000 --> 48:15.000] You step on my property with pistols and you do so without my permission. [48:15.000 --> 48:19.000] I consider that aggravated assault. [48:19.000 --> 48:20.000] Okay. [48:20.000 --> 48:30.000] So, you want to, but whatever you do, don't give fair warning if you can avoid it. [48:30.000 --> 48:38.000] Now, all you need is one due process claim to get in court. [48:38.000 --> 48:42.000] You kind of do like the U.S. attorneys do. [48:42.000 --> 48:45.000] U.S. attorneys, they're going after somebody. [48:45.000 --> 48:52.000] They will find some minor little thing that while it's a felony, it's a minor felony, [48:52.000 --> 48:54.000] it's easy to get an indictment on. [48:54.000 --> 48:58.000] And they'll go in and get an indictment on this minor thing. [48:58.000 --> 49:04.000] And then you've got a rubber stamp with the grand jury foreman's name on it. [49:04.000 --> 49:08.000] Then they start doing the real research. [49:08.000 --> 49:15.000] Because they have the claim against you, now they can do more effective investigation. [49:15.000 --> 49:21.000] Randy, I found over 20 charges that, I mean, I found over, almost near 20 violations. [49:21.000 --> 49:22.000] That's why I said I got your address. [49:22.000 --> 49:24.000] I'm going to send it to you as soon as I get off the radio. [49:24.000 --> 49:25.000] Okay, good, good. [49:25.000 --> 49:27.000] I'd like to see that. [49:27.000 --> 49:38.000] Now you want to get the officers on the stand and elicit testimony from them. [49:38.000 --> 49:44.000] While you're doing that, remember, never give fair warning. [49:44.000 --> 49:51.000] You don't want them to ever think that you're setting them up to give you information [49:51.000 --> 49:57.000] that you can pursue criminal prosecution against them with later. [49:57.000 --> 50:02.000] That gets to be a pleasant surprise. [50:02.000 --> 50:07.000] Now this one lawsuit initiates other lawsuits. [50:07.000 --> 50:11.000] It depends on how I interrogate them on the stand. [50:11.000 --> 50:14.000] Exactly. [50:14.000 --> 50:22.000] So one question you ask when you came to the property, did you have a criminal complaint [50:22.000 --> 50:25.000] against me at the time? [50:25.000 --> 50:26.000] Whatever they say. [50:26.000 --> 50:31.000] Did you go to a magistrate and secure a warrant to authorize you to enter the property? [50:31.000 --> 50:35.000] No, they told me that it was authorized by the city to come through security. [50:35.000 --> 50:39.000] You want them to say that on the stand. [50:39.000 --> 50:44.000] So you're going to ask them, did you secure a warrant? [50:44.000 --> 50:47.000] And they're going to say, we were authorized by the city. [50:47.000 --> 50:53.000] And you say, objection, Your Honor, non-responsive. [50:53.000 --> 50:56.000] Pay close attention to that. [50:56.000 --> 50:58.000] You ask a question. [50:58.000 --> 51:02.000] They answered the question that you asked. [51:02.000 --> 51:13.000] You ask them, did you get a warrant and they say no, that they were authorized by the city to do security. [51:13.000 --> 51:16.000] That answers a question you didn't ask. [51:16.000 --> 51:20.000] And you can stop them and get them to say yes or no. [51:20.000 --> 51:21.000] I had a warrant. [51:21.000 --> 51:23.000] I didn't have a warrant. [51:23.000 --> 51:25.000] They say no. [51:25.000 --> 51:27.000] Gotcha. [51:27.000 --> 51:32.000] When I ask a question, make sure it's answered and don't go any further until it's answered. [51:32.000 --> 51:33.000] Yes. [51:33.000 --> 51:35.000] The man that is answered. [51:35.000 --> 51:39.000] Listen to, you need to sit in court sometime and listen to these guys. [51:39.000 --> 51:43.000] There are some issues I would like to address on the air. [51:43.000 --> 51:49.000] One of the primary ones are unstated presuppositions. [51:49.000 --> 51:55.000] They're the hardest things to catch. [51:55.000 --> 52:01.000] An unstated presupposition is where someone says something. [52:01.000 --> 52:09.000] And in order for that to make any sense, something else has to be true. [52:09.000 --> 52:11.000] And that gets the objection. [52:11.000 --> 52:13.000] Objection assumes a fact not in evidence. [52:13.000 --> 52:18.000] And this is one of their favorite tricks. [52:18.000 --> 52:29.000] When an officer says I observed the defendant operating a motor vehicle, objection assumes facts not in evidence. [52:29.000 --> 52:37.000] What fact does that assume that's not in evidence? [52:37.000 --> 52:41.000] It assumes that I was in commerce. [52:41.000 --> 52:42.000] Right. [52:42.000 --> 52:44.000] But he didn't say that. [52:44.000 --> 52:50.000] He constructed his languages in a way to imply that. [52:50.000 --> 52:59.000] The only way you can be operating a motor vehicle under the definition of the term, the legal definition of the terms, [52:59.000 --> 53:06.000] was you would have had been operating in commerce and there is no evidence that you were operating in commerce. [53:06.000 --> 53:09.000] It's hard to catch. [53:09.000 --> 53:15.000] Even lawyers miss it, but they struggle to try to get better at catching it. [53:15.000 --> 53:29.000] And when you catch someone doing a complex equivalent or an unstated presupposition, it really trips them up. [53:29.000 --> 53:41.000] So if you're getting ready to go to court, you might watch some of these really good lawyer programs where they're doing examination [53:41.000 --> 53:48.000] and cross-examination and pay real close attention to the mechanics. [53:48.000 --> 53:57.000] Because you want to snooker those officers into admitting on the stand that they committed a crime. [53:57.000 --> 54:02.000] And the first thing you do is go file criminal charges against them. [54:02.000 --> 54:04.000] They will give you more claims. [54:04.000 --> 54:07.000] They'll give you your criminal claims to make against them. [54:07.000 --> 54:11.000] And you just keep turning the heat up on them. [54:11.000 --> 54:12.000] Okay. [54:12.000 --> 54:14.000] That's all I'm going to say on that subject. [54:14.000 --> 54:16.000] I kind of think I kind of beat that to death. [54:16.000 --> 54:22.000] But yes, I'm very interested in seeing your pleadings. [54:22.000 --> 54:29.000] What type of effect do you think is going to have on the jury if I'm able to get that out? [54:29.000 --> 54:34.000] The jury won't have any knowledge of what you did. [54:34.000 --> 54:36.000] No. [54:36.000 --> 54:38.000] Well, okay. [54:38.000 --> 54:45.000] As far as the fact that the cops came to my house to demolish my house, which is a big no-no. [54:45.000 --> 54:46.000] You know what I'm saying? [54:46.000 --> 54:53.000] Demolish somebody's property and all these events that are happening, knowing that Mr. Olivier has guns at his house, [54:53.000 --> 54:54.000] it could have been another event. [54:54.000 --> 54:55.000] Okay, hold on. [54:55.000 --> 54:57.000] That would have happened. [54:57.000 --> 55:02.000] Go to your legal library. [55:02.000 --> 55:10.000] You need one that has Westlaw because Westlaw has proof of facts. [55:10.000 --> 55:16.000] And you need to look up proof of facts for whatever issue you're working with. [55:16.000 --> 55:22.000] And it will give you a set of questions to establish the issue. [55:22.000 --> 55:27.000] They've got lots of questions in there and they sound very pedantic. [55:27.000 --> 55:33.000] But they ask for all of the elements of whatever issue you're addressing. [55:33.000 --> 55:35.000] They are absolutely incredible. [55:35.000 --> 55:38.000] And lawyers use them all the time. [55:38.000 --> 55:40.000] So write down proof of facts. [55:40.000 --> 55:45.000] Go to your local, to a legal library, like a college or something. [55:45.000 --> 55:50.000] And the legal librarians are extremely helpful. [55:50.000 --> 55:54.000] Get them to find you proof of facts. [55:54.000 --> 55:59.000] And that will give you the questions you need to ask to establish a set of facts. [55:59.000 --> 56:09.000] Like here you had guns, but had you ever been arrested for a violent offense? [56:09.000 --> 56:10.000] No. [56:10.000 --> 56:11.000] So you asked the officer, [56:11.000 --> 56:18.000] did you have any indication that I had ever been charged with a violent offense? [56:18.000 --> 56:19.000] No, no, no. [56:19.000 --> 56:20.000] What are you just going to say? [56:20.000 --> 56:23.000] The guns part is not on the officer. [56:23.000 --> 56:25.000] I mean, like, I have guns on my property. [56:25.000 --> 56:26.000] They don't know that. [56:26.000 --> 56:28.000] I'm just saying that it could have been an incident [56:28.000 --> 56:32.000] because if I wanted to protect my property, which I'm an American [56:32.000 --> 56:35.000] and I was taught that I have the right to, [56:35.000 --> 56:40.000] now the city has caused a grave harm because I could have picked up my weapon [56:40.000 --> 56:45.000] and started shooting trying to do a job. [56:45.000 --> 56:51.000] Where I'm trying to go to, why were they there to run security? [56:51.000 --> 57:00.000] Why did the city official feel like he needed to bring people with loaded pistols onto your property [57:00.000 --> 57:02.000] and threaten you with them? [57:02.000 --> 57:08.000] What evidence did he have to believe that you may become violent? [57:08.000 --> 57:10.000] And you ask them for it. [57:10.000 --> 57:14.000] You've got a jury sitting there and they own their own house. [57:14.000 --> 57:19.000] And they're seeing you standing here and this guy shows up on your property [57:19.000 --> 57:23.000] with a bunch of guys with guns on their hips. [57:23.000 --> 57:28.000] And you're incensed by that and they will be, too. [57:28.000 --> 57:34.000] So you want them to explain why it was necessary to bring loaded pistols on your property. [57:34.000 --> 57:39.000] Why did you think you would have to shoot me? [57:39.000 --> 57:42.000] Have I demonstrated that I'm dangerous? [57:42.000 --> 57:43.000] Well, it's private. [57:43.000 --> 57:44.000] I'm allowed to have guns. [57:44.000 --> 57:46.000] I'm allowed to have what I want. [57:46.000 --> 57:49.000] No, wait, they don't know you have guns. [57:49.000 --> 57:52.000] I'm talking about the guns they've got. [57:52.000 --> 57:53.000] Right, right, right. [57:53.000 --> 57:57.000] I understand your angle at it. [57:57.000 --> 57:59.000] Oh, no, no, I'm not angry. [57:59.000 --> 58:08.000] I'm trying to figure out how to get the jury to be as incensed as you should be. [58:08.000 --> 58:09.000] Right. [58:09.000 --> 58:12.000] And I'm trying to prove to the jury that I could have died that day. [58:12.000 --> 58:15.000] If I picked up my second amendment right, I would have been dead. [58:15.000 --> 58:16.000] Yeah. [58:16.000 --> 58:18.000] I'm outdone, just like you said. [58:18.000 --> 58:19.000] Will that make a difference? [58:19.000 --> 58:21.000] Do you think that makes a difference? 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[01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.000] The schedule consists of a daily 10- to 12-hour live coverage, [01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.000] and the app will be available through their service BitTorrent Live, [01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:06.000] which is available on Apple TV and Groupon. [01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:15.000] A man in his 20s armed with an AK-47 entered a Waffle House in DeSoto, Texas [01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.000] at 2.30 a.m. on July 7. [01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.000] After robbing several of the customers and walking out of the diner, [01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.000] a customer followed him and attempted to stop him. [01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:26.000] The customer then called out the robber, who turned and pointed the rifle at him, [01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:29.000] but before he could even realize it, the customer had fired several shots [01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:30.000] from his concealed handgun. [01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.000] The robber was transported to a local hospital where he remained in critical condition [01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:35.000] and on life support. [01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:38.000] Luckily, the vigilante had a Texas handgun license to carry, [01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.000] which allows a licensee to carry a handgun, concealed or openly, [01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.000] in a wide array of conditions and locations. [01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:50.000] The Lone Star Lowdown is created for sponsors. [01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:55.000] Feel free to give me a call at 210-363-2257. [01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:23.000] This is Brooke Rhodey with your Lowdown for July 13, 2016. [01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.000] Okay, we are back. [01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.000] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, and the Lone Star Lowdown Radio. [01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000] We're talking to Oliver in Tennessee. [01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:41.000] And Oliver, how incensed were you that these guys walked on your property with pistols? [01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.000] Well, I was heated. [01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.000] And the thing is, they know the reason that they came on my property with pistols [01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.000] is because I've already been fighting the driver without a license, basically. [01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:56.000] I've been doing it a little, I haven't been subtle about it. [01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.000] But they know me. [01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:04.000] Well, were you so frightened that you wet your britches? [01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.000] Oh, yes, I was, yeah. [01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.000] Almost. [01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:12.000] This, okay, when you, the whole thing about this suit. [01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.000] I'm very frightened. [01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:18.000] Don't expect to get to court with it. [01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:19.000] Okay. [01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.000] Everything's political. [01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:28.000] What you want to do is construct a suit that the other lawyer will look at it and say, [01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:34.000] I do not want to argue this in front of a jury. [01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:42.000] So you always, everything that you put in your suit is always there for the jury. [01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.000] You don't care about the other side. [01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.000] You don't care about anything. [01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:49.000] You care about convincing a jury. [01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:54.000] And every time you write a legal document, everything you write, [01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:00.000] you think how would a jury of my peers respond to this? [01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.000] And when you construct the issues you're going to bring, [01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:09.000] you want to construct issues that will be real hard for them to argue against. [01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:17.000] You're going to say that the person felt like he needed security. [01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:25.000] And you ask him, well, when you go to the grocery store, do you take armed policemen with you? [01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.000] When you go to do a property inspection, like a building inspector, [01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.000] does he take armed policemen with you? [01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:36.000] Doesn't that help me prove conspiracy? [01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.000] Because you don't have the authority to make the police have this power. [01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:41.000] You do this. [01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.000] You don't have the authority to come on my property. [01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:44.000] You still did that. [01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.000] I came to the, I sat down with the city attorney and I had a meeting. [01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.000] We just recorded, I had it on recording. [01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.000] Told him that I have all these rights and what he's doing is wrong. [01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.000] He's saying, no, the city, the state gave the city the power [01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:01.000] and they have the authority to do this and I don't know what I'm talking about. [01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.000] I had this on recording. [01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.000] That's a big conspiracy, isn't it? [01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:16.000] No, conspiracy has to be a conspiracy to commit a felony, at least in Texas it says. [01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:20.000] You can't conspire to commit a misdemeanor in Texas. [01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.000] You can only conspire to commit a felony. [01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:32.000] And it would have to be a meeting of minds between two people with the intent of committing a crime. [01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:38.000] Now, the policeman can come to your property and if you give them permission, [01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:43.000] they can enter your property or if you don't have a fence, if you have no barrier. [01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:47.000] I'm not suing the police for conspiracy. [01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:54.000] I'm suing the city for getting all them together to do that wrong against my property. [01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:55.000] Okay. [01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:59.000] Not the cop himself. [01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:04.000] Okay. Did this inspector have any reason to be afraid of you? [01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:11.000] I mean, had you threatened him or gotten angry or aggressive or anything with him? [01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.000] No, everybody in the department said that was nice. [01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.000] Well, no one would go get the paperwork from them. [01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.000] Okay, I'm going somewhere here. [01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:30.000] If he didn't have any reason to believe that you would be anything other than polite and cordial, [01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:37.000] why would he bring policemen with him? [01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.000] He'd seek it out as an American. [01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:51.000] I think he brought policemen with him to frighten and intimidate you so that he could carry out his illegal plans. [01:07:51.000 --> 01:08:01.000] Now, you have done your research and found that what they did, they were not legally allowed to do. [01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.000] Well, the mayor ordered it. [01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.000] Who cares? [01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.000] On that, okay. [01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:13.000] Who cares? Are you familiar with Screws VUS? [01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:14.000] Heard of it. [01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:18.000] Oh, look it up. [01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:25.000] 95, let's see, it's 363 USC 93, I believe that's correct. [01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:32.000] But if you do a search for Screws VUS, you'll find it and then write down 109. [01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.000] It's at page 109. [01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:35.000] 109. [01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:40.000] Where I'm paraphrasing a little bit because they're a little more wordy than I am. [01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:46.000] It says that a private citizen cannot claim ignorance of the law as a defense to prosecution. [01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:50.000] A public official is held to a much higher standard. [01:08:50.000 --> 01:09:04.000] If a public official violates a ruling of this court and he be sane, he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does. [01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:19.000] So if the individual did not have the legal authority to do what he was doing, it doesn't make any difference who told him what. [01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:20.000] Gotcha. [01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.000] Objection, relevance. [01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:32.000] If the mayor told you to stand on your head and squawk like a chicken, would you do that? [01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:38.000] I tell bailiffs all the time when I ask them to arrest the judge and they refuse. [01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:42.000] I say, well, you know, life is filled with little decisions. [01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.000] We all get to make some. [01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:49.000] The mayor told him to do something that was illegal. [01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:55.000] And that presented him with a decision and he made one. [01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.000] So don't come back and whine about it now. [01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:03.000] So from your perspective, he knew exactly what he was doing. [01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:08.000] He fully understood the legal consequences of what he was doing. [01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:12.000] Now what questions would you ask him? [01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.000] Okay. [01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.000] I understand. [01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:21.000] Am I allowed to ask for silver and gold in payment if I get a warrant? [01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:22.000] Oh, yeah. [01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.000] You can ask anything you want to. [01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:29.000] The judge will either grant it or not, but I would suggest that you not. [01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.000] You not? [01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:32.000] Yeah. [01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:33.000] Back up. [01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:40.000] Ask yourself, what is your intended outcome? [01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:51.000] Now, okay, if you receive payment in whatever the medium, not taxable, they can tax green dollars. [01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.000] So you'd think they'd be able to tax you if they pay you in green dollars. [01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:01.000] Not because this is making you whole. [01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.000] This is not profit. [01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.000] So what you receive in a settlement is not taxable. [01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:12.000] But think of what is your intended outcome. [01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:16.000] Let's, okay, I'm thinking of doing with this thing. [01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:22.000] How will this lead me toward my intended outcome? [01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:38.000] No matter how much you want to do this thing, if you can't find a way to construe that in the context of leading me toward your outcome, don't do it. [01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:47.000] If you're going to say something to one of these people, always ask yourself, how will this lead me toward my ultimate outcome? [01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:53.000] When the bailiff pushed me out the door, knocked me down, broke my elbow. [01:11:53.000 --> 01:12:02.000] I really wanted to go after that bailiff because it was not only insulting and embarrassing, it really, really hurt. [01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:14.000] I hit my elbow so hard on that marble step that it smashed, the bone smashed through my suit, cut all the way through my suit coat. [01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.000] So I really wanted to go after the bailiff. [01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:33.000] But I asked myself, how will this lead me toward my intended outcome? And I could not find a way to craft that to where it would lead me toward my outcome. [01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:36.000] So I didn't go after the bailiff. [01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:44.000] And that gave me more credibility than anything I could have done. [01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:51.000] Recently, when the judge ordered the bailiffs to arrest me, four of them moved toward me. [01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:54.000] The fifth one did not. [01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:59.000] He stood back and he wasn't having anything to do with that. [01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000] He had no intention of arresting me. [01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:09.000] He knew what they were doing was wrong and he wasn't going to have a part of it because I demonstrated to him that's why he was still there. [01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:13.000] I didn't take his job away from him. [01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.000] Think carefully before you do anything. [01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.000] What is your intended outcome? [01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.000] This will make you far more effective. [01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:26.000] It will make you extremely difficult to deal with. [01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:33.000] Sometimes when we have time, I'll talk about the structures that I'm presenting here. [01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:37.000] There's an underlying structure to what we're doing here. [01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:45.000] That makes you hard for them to get a handle on. [01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:53.000] This will shield you from reacting and responding the way you normally would. [01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:56.000] That makes them crazy. [01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.000] They can't understand you. [01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.000] They can't anticipate you. [01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:11.000] That's why I wanted to do that, to really make them know that if Olivier is bringing up these issues, [01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:14.000] and every time you see him, it's going to be difficult. [01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.000] He's going to make it extremely difficult. [01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.000] That's why I wanted to write that in. [01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:24.000] I want to let you get to other people I'm going to run and send you. [01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:35.000] The power play in that kind of situation is to discipline not to say what you feel like saying, [01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:39.000] not to do what you feel like doing. [01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:42.000] You have to constantly keep interrupting yourself, [01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:47.000] because they really know how to push your buttons and get you to dance for them. [01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:53.000] You may feel like you're perfectly justified and you're reading the right act, [01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:00.000] but if you are acting and reacting in a way that they can expect and anticipate, [01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:05.000] then they're leading you down the garden path. [01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:09.000] But if you start stopping yourself and ask yourself, [01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:15.000] if I say this to this officer or to this lawyer, [01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:19.000] how will that lead me toward my intended outcome? [01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:23.000] The most effective witness I ever saw was a 26-year-old kid. [01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:28.000] Every time they asked him a question, he waited about 30 seconds before he spoke. [01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:33.000] Finally, the lawyer got frustrated and asked the judge to order him to answer the question. [01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:35.000] The judge asked the guy, is there a problem? [01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:37.000] Oh, no, Your Honor. [01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:44.000] This is court, and I'm concerned about saying something improper or incorrect. [01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000] I want to think about what I'm going to say before I speak. [01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.000] You just say, oh, okay. [01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:59.000] But it really put the lawyer off his game. [01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:07.000] Don't give them the responses and reactions that they expect. [01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:11.000] That's why you never give legal advice to the officer. [01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.000] I got my rights. [01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:14.000] You're supposed to do this. [01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.000] No, no, no, no. [01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:21.000] Bushwhack is so much better. [01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:25.000] The only way he finds out you're annoyed is when you dump on the mayor [01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.000] and drop on him with both feet. [01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.000] And he has to look around and figure out where it comes from, [01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:35.000] and then he looks back at you and says, that rascal set me up. [01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.000] Yeah, we did. [01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:38.000] All right. [01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.000] I'll call back. [01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:41.000] I'll let you get to somebody else, all right? [01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:42.000] Okay. [01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.000] Thank you, Larry. [01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:44.000] I'm going to see you to eat. [01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.000] You're not Larry. [01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:46.000] Thank you, Oliver. [01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000] You're in the wrong place on my board. [01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:49.000] Okay. [01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:50.000] I'm about to do the break. [01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.000] When we come back, we're going to Larry in Arizona, [01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.000] and then we've got Frankie in Illinois. 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[01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:06.000] But you know, when Oliver first started calling in, he didn't know squat. [01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000] And he's one of the few that he called in. [01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.000] He asked for advice. [01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:17.000] And the first advice we gave him, Mr. Reed, is study the codes. [01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:21.000] And he has become a master. [01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.000] I could not be more pleased with Oliver. [01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.000] I've spent more time with him because he is becoming more sophisticated, [01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000] and I'd appreciate it. [01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.000] Okay, okay, go ahead, Larry. [01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:36.000] Yeah, well, no, Oliver has been very educational. [01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:41.000] And the Jeffs, Jeff from Alabama and Jeff Sedgwick. [01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:44.000] I haven't heard from Jeff in a while. [01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.000] I need to get in contact with him and see how he's doing. [01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:53.000] Yeah, well, a week or so ago, you and Jeff Sedgwick went into it about discovery, [01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:58.000] which was a very educational show. [01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:02.000] Jeff is one that really takes me on. [01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.000] And I really enjoy it. [01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.000] He told me once, he called me after the show, and he said, [01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:11.000] you did the bravest thing I've ever seen. [01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.000] I said, what are you talking about? [01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.000] Well, you admitted you were wrong on the show. [01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:20.000] He said, duh, I'd like to be wrong. [01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:23.000] I mean, it's not like I'd like to have things wrong, but I'd like to be caught [01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.000] if I'm doing something wrong. [01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:31.000] One of the things is so people understand I'm not some kind of special guru [01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:38.000] with special powers so that, oh, yeah, he can do it, but normal people can't. [01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:42.000] He said, nah, screw up like everybody else does. [01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:50.000] And I do enjoy Jeff because he helps me increase my level of sophistication. [01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.000] Yes, definitely. [01:21:53.000 --> 01:22:03.000] Okay, so late last year, I was pulled over for no registration and called off to jail. [01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:08.000] And I asked the officer if he was taking me to a magistrate, and he said, no, [01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.000] he was taking me to jail. [01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:14.000] So earlier this year at my trial, you know, [01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:19.000] I questioned the officer about why he violated the law, didn't take me to a magistrate. [01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:27.000] And the officer, under sworn testimony, said no law enforcement agency in this [01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:31.000] county abides by that law. [01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:34.000] Whoa, he said that? [01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:39.000] He said that on sworn testimony, and I have it on the CD disc. [01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:42.000] Oh, wonderful. [01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:49.000] Are you thinking of a 42 U.S. Code 1983 suit? [01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.000] You know, I'm thinking of a lot of different things, and that's why I decided to call you. [01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:59.000] That sounds, it points toward Rico. [01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:05.000] And the fact that he made that as a judicial admission, [01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:12.000] I understand about the collateral estoppel. [01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000] Let me explain collateral estoppel. [01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:20.000] I got this case where Wells Fargo is trying to foreclose on this guy. [01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:25.000] I file a, we file a qualified written request with notice of rescission. [01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.000] They don't respond. [01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.000] I file a quiet title action against them. [01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:36.000] They move it to the federal court, file a 12B6 motion to dismiss, and under paragraph three, [01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:40.000] they said we are not the creditor. [01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:43.000] Oh, whoops. [01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:49.000] So I filed this response saying that, you know, in paragraphs one and two, [01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:56.000] the lawyer did a bunch of, a lot of song and dance and salsa down your pants. [01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:04.000] But in paragraph three, the defendant claimed they were not the creditor. [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.000] Plaintiff is remiss. [01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:12.000] Plaintiff believed that because they were for the party foreclosing that they were the creditor. [01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:17.000] So plaintiff must have certainly sued the wrong party. [01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:22.000] Plaintiff non-suits the case. [01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:27.000] The reason I'm non-suited is the lawyer made a big, [01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:33.000] big mistake in claiming they were not the creditor. [01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:41.000] And I didn't want him to have a chance to fix it because once he said that in court, [01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:47.000] if I don't give him a chance to correct it, it goes to collateral estoppel. [01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:57.000] Now, he may actually be the true and bona fide holder of the dead instrument, [01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:06.000] but he can never go into court and claim that because he went into court and took a position. [01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:11.000] He can never go into court and take an opposing position. [01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:18.000] This officer stated in court that to his knowledge, [01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:21.000] no one in the county ever abided by that law. [01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:25.000] He can never go to court and change that. [01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:29.000] That is etched in stone. [01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.000] Okay. [01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.000] Now you've got something to work with. [01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:40.000] And like I was telling Larry, for the most part, 99% of all the cases never get to trial. [01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:45.000] What lawyers for the most part do is try to construct a suit [01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:50.000] that the other party is not going to want to put in front of a jury [01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:56.000] to give the other party reason to make a deal to get him to go away. [01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:01.000] So this is wonderful. [01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:11.000] But watch the clock from the date this prosecution ended, the clock starts, [01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:13.000] and you generally have one year. [01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:20.000] And you have to give them notice of suit at least 60 days before you sue. [01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:25.000] So you have to have a tort letter in 60 days before the one year runs out. [01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:27.000] Okay. [01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:29.000] That may not be that way in Arizona, [01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:34.000] but most of the states I've looked at are kind of consistent in that way. [01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:35.000] Yeah. [01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:37.000] Okay. [01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:45.000] What are the pros and cons to suing people personally versus in their official capacity? [01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:55.000] Well, I think if you got a shot at the officer personally, oh, that's wonderful. [01:26:55.000 --> 01:27:00.000] We had a guy with a debt collection suit. [01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:02.000] And when the lawyer filed the suit, [01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:07.000] there was an affidavit that he was supposed to file with it according to the rules. [01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.000] And he didn't file that affidavit. [01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:13.000] So we filed a challenge subject matter jurisdiction. [01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.000] And we sued the judge. [01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:22.000] Well, the judge came into court and the client said, Your Honor, what are you doing here? [01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.000] You can't be here. [01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:25.000] We sued you. [01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000] The judge said, What, what? [01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:33.000] We got the case and he's reading it and said, Oh, my, oh, my. [01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:37.000] Well, he got a recess, recused himself, [01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:42.000] and he got the county attorney to write an answer for him. [01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:50.000] Well, we sued him in his personal capacity claiming that he did not have subject matter jurisdiction. [01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:57.000] But he got a county employee and used county funds to write his answer. [01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:02.000] So we sued the county attorney for misappropriation of public funds. [01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.000] If you see that officer in his personal capacity, [01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:18.000] very good chance that the city will pay for his attorney fees. [01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:22.000] And then you get to claim misappropriation of public funds. [01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:28.000] And since this is a federal suit, you don't live in Arizona. [01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:33.000] You had to go to Arizona to handle this traffic ticket. [01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.000] They had to come to where you live to handle the federal suit. [01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.000] That would be a lot more fun and it cost them a lot more money. [01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:48.000] They'll have to hire a lawyer in your venue. [01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:59.000] And then also, if I sue the officer in his personal capacity, can I sue the sheriff's office? [01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:02.000] Can I go after the sheriff's office also? [01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:03.000] Oh, yes, yes, yes. [01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:07.000] You can sue the officer personally for what he personally did. [01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:11.000] You can't claim he didn't know what the law said. [01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:14.000] We just spoke to screws earlier. [01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:20.000] And he testified that nobody, that it was a standard policy to not follow law. [01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:25.000] So you can sue him personally, but you can also sue the department for the policy, [01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:28.000] which he stipulated to the policy already. [01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.000] So yeah, you can vote. [01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000] Okay. 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[01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.000] You can't hide me from nobody. [01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.000] What me say? Chip in on your mom, chip in on your daddy. [01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.000] Okay, we are back. [01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:39.000] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue La La Radio. [01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:43.000] And I've got two new screens open. [01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.000] And we're talking to Larry in Arizona. [01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:53.000] And Larry, you know, you went through the hard part where they kind of jerked you around. [01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:55.000] Now you've got a good shot to go back at them. [01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:02.000] And when we went out, you spoke to a private attorney general suit. [01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:09.000] And yes, it looks like because of the admission of the officer, [01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:17.000] that indicates that everyone else who has been arrested by these officers [01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:22.000] has been subjected to the same mistreatment. [01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:30.000] But for the most part, it's minor enough that most people don't have the time [01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:36.000] or wherewithal of the funds to take action to remedy this wrong. [01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:42.000] So there is available a private attorney general suit. [01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.000] And let me give a little bit on that for those who don't know. [01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:48.000] There's a lot of patriot mythology out there [01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:52.000] about people being able to become a private attorney general. [01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:55.000] That's not what this is. [01:34:55.000 --> 01:35:01.000] This is a name that the courts have given a certain kind of suit. [01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:05.000] And this is a suit that they allow. [01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:12.000] They allow someone to sue for something seemingly minor that happened to them. [01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:21.000] But in order to make it profitable for someone to try to sue and right this civil wrong, [01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:27.000] they could sue for themselves and all others similarly situated. [01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:31.000] And then if they get an award, they get the entire award. [01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:34.000] So Larry, absolutely. [01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:39.000] This sounds like a great private attorney general suit. [01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:43.000] Okay. I mean, everything I read about suing as a private attorney general [01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.000] said as long as it was for the public benefit. [01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.000] And this sure seems like it would be for the public benefit. [01:35:50.000 --> 01:36:01.000] Yes. And this thing of take before a magistrate, this is so well rooted in law. [01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:08.000] This has been in law since the Magna Carta, 1216 A.D. [01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:13.000] So this is not some new law that they may not be familiar with. [01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:16.000] This is inconvenient law. [01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:23.000] And the way they got it in is they drugged the Prince John down to the River Thames [01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.000] and threatened to cut his head off if he didn't sign it. [01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:28.000] That's what it took to get it put in in the first place. [01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.000] But over time, they managed to get rid of it. [01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:37.000] We need somebody to put it back because it is very basic to law. [01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:41.000] The case law for this is overwhelming. [01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:44.000] So you've got a great case. [01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:50.000] Okay. Well, I'm developing a whole lot more questions, but it's getting late in the evening. [01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:54.000] Let me let you get on to your other callers and I'll call you next week. [01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.000] Okay. Thank you very much. [01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:59.000] And keep us up to speed on how this goes. [01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.000] Okay. Well, thank you, Randy. [01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:02.000] Okay. Thank you, Larry. [01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:05.000] Now we're going to go to Frank in Illinois. [01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:10.000] Hello, Frank. What do you have for us today? [01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.000] Hi, how's it going? [01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.000] You're not supposed to ask me that. [01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:17.000] You know better. [01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:22.000] So when I was talking about Oliver, you were talking about Oliver [01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:26.000] and you asked the question, why would the police think you were a threat? [01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:28.000] I just wanted to chime in on that. [01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:31.000] I have a buddy of mine who works for the Chicago Police Department, [01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:37.000] and he told me that during roll call, they called them all in [01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:43.000] and they were talking about the people who are exercising a right to travel or sovereign citizens, [01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:48.000] and they were told that these are potentially dangerous people [01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:56.000] and to file a national SAR initiative report on them, a suspicious activity report, [01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:00.000] and then to file that with the local threat fusion center. [01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:02.000] So that's just a heads up. [01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.000] You know, we know we're not violent, right? [01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.000] Wait a minute. Hold on. [01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.000] Who? [01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:10.000] Come again? [01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:14.000] Who did they say to file this with? [01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:18.000] Well, the department, and then from there it goes to the threat fusion center. [01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:24.000] It's under the Department of Homeland Security. [01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.000] And I sent you a little Skype about that. [01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:28.000] You can read into that. [01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:33.000] But that's coming from an officer in the Chicago Police Department. [01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:36.000] He's saying, you know, we were told that the sovereign citizens [01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.000] and the people driving around with no license are a threat. [01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:46.000] So I recommend that people just tell them, you know, [01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:49.000] stick to Eddie's script for the first couple questions and then tell them, [01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:54.000] hey, no due respect, but my attorney told me to exercise my rights. [01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:57.000] You know, and that kind of diffuses it, I think. [01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:07.000] I'm trying to get people not to try to educate the police officer. [01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:13.000] You don't have to address these issues with the police officer [01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:18.000] in order to exercise your rights. [01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:23.000] You don't have to give legal advice to the police officer. [01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:30.000] They will always treat legal advice as a threat, always. [01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:36.000] The last time I got a ticket, the only thing I told the officer [01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:42.000] when he handed me the ticket, I said, Officer Reese, [01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.000] I'm fixing to give you a romp through the legal system. [01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:49.000] You are not going to believe. [01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:51.000] That's it. [01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:57.000] I didn't need to try to teach him anything. [01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:09.000] And because I did that, he did not have any way to construe me as a threat [01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:14.000] or to construe that I was agitated or anything else [01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.000] because I'm not telling him squat. [01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:18.000] This goes to what Eddie says. [01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:23.000] Shut up, shut up, and keep shutting up. [01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:24.000] Don't tell him anything. [01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:28.000] Do not give him fair warning. [01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:32.000] Just, yes, sir, yes, sir, whatever you say, sir. [01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.000] And then when he gets back a week later, [01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:39.000] all of a sudden the mayor is having a conniption. [01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.000] And he's saying, what? [01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:43.000] What did I do? [01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.000] Mess with the wrong guy. [01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:49.000] Terry, you know, Randy, we like the police. [01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.000] When they're pumping gas, we pull over. [01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.000] We do overwatch, protect them. [01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.000] They're not the enemy. [01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:58.000] But also we can enforce our rights politely. [01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:00.000] You know, am I under arrest? [01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:01.000] Am I free to go? [01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:05.000] And then I like to say, you know, no, I'll do respect. [01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:10.000] My attorney advised me if I'm under arrest and talk to him. [01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:13.000] That is a really good thing to say. [01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:15.000] You know, because we put it on the attorneys. [01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.000] Nobody likes them anyway, right? [01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:18.000] So they're just getting out. [01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:23.000] Let them file one of these complaints against the attorney if they want to. [01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:27.000] We'll see how that works out for them. [01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:28.000] All right. [01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.000] Well, anyway, I just want to give a heads up on that. [01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:34.000] So a little firsthand intel from what the police are being told, [01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:36.000] especially in the big city here in Chicago. [01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:39.000] I don't know what they do down there in the woods. [01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:43.000] I suspect they do exactly the same thing. [01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:45.000] I grew up in Chicago. [01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:52.000] And one of the reasons I wanted to get out of there is because the police frightened me. [01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:57.000] When I was there, the police were horribly corrupt. [01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:59.000] Mayor Daley was the mayor. [01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:04.000] And the police could do pretty much anything they wanted to. [01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:13.000] And the last time I was in Chicago, the whole atmosphere there had changed. [01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:19.000] But I forgot why I went there. [01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:28.000] Oh, when I'm in Dallas, the police are so incredibly aggressive. [01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:36.000] And one place where I was comfortable with the police department, with New York City, [01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:43.000] the New York City police gave no indication they were afraid of me. [01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000] I was impressed. [01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:51.000] I walked out of a bus station in Manhattan at 2 o'clock in the morning. [01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:54.000] And there's a police car sitting there with a cop in it. [01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:58.000] And I walked up to the window and I said, hey, he's kind of startled. [01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:00.000] He looked up and said, can I help you? [01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.000] I said, yeah, I understand it's your duty to serve and protect. [01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:04.000] And he said, well, yeah. [01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:05.000] Well, I need a little service. [01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:08.000] I need you to drive me to the airport. [01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:10.000] Well, I'm not going to drive you to the airport. [01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:15.000] Come on, guys, you're supposed to serve as well as protect. [01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.000] Well, I'm not driving you to the airport. [01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:17.000] Get in here and sit down. [01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:20.000] We've got a bus coming in about 15 minutes. [01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:23.000] And I'll take you down to the block or two where that bus is going. [01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:27.000] And just no fear of me whatsoever. [01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.000] Not as comfortable with that guy. [01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:34.000] I wasn't afraid he'd pull his pistol and shoot me because he was terrified. [01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:37.000] New York is about the only place I saw that. [01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:46.000] Here in Dallas, Austin, they're training these police to be absolutely terrified of us. [01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:51.000] And I don't like to see somebody terrified who's wearing a little pistol. [01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:53.000] That terrifies me. [01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:54.000] Hang on. [01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:57.000] Dr. Buda Great, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Blu-ray Radio. [01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:01.000] We'll be right back. [01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:09.000] At Capital Coin and Bullion, our mission is to be your preferred shopping destination by delivering excellent customer service and outstanding value at an affordable price. [01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:15.000] We provide a wide assortment of favorite products featuring a great selection of high quality coins and precious metals. [01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:19.000] We cater to beginners in coin collecting as well as large transactions for investors. 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[01:46:55.000 --> 01:47:08.000] And once I was surprised at the influence that a mayor could have on a city, especially one the size of Chicago. [01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:17.000] When I was in Chicago, if you walked down the street, no one would look at you. They would look past you. [01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:31.000] Everybody seemed terrified of everybody else. I left and went back about 8 or 10 years later and it was like a whole different place. [01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:43.000] I went to the Science Museum, got on the wrong bus and wound up down on 63rd Street on the south side. [01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:48.000] And that was a black neighborhood. When I was growing up, white guys didn't go in that neighborhood. [01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:59.000] They weren't likely to come out of that neighborhood. But the people were so open and friendly, I was absolutely astounded. [01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:08.000] So I did want to question Frank about how different Chicago was from the time that I was there. [01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:18.000] But back to this idea of suing under 42 U.S. Code 1983 or a private attorney general suit, [01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:27.000] it's becoming clear that if we're going to take things back, if we're going to correct these problems, [01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:36.000] one of the things we have to do is demonstrate to the police that not everybody's a bad guy, that some of us are good guys, [01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:46.000] some of us follow law, and some of us insist that you follow law and we don't care how afraid of us you are. [01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:57.000] And I'm talking to a group in Georgia who are working to try to change things, [01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:04.000] and they're doing the same kinds of things that the Patriot Movement has been doing for a very long time. [01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:10.000] They go and give these guys notice that what they're doing is wrong. [01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:24.000] And I honestly believe that's from a naive notion that if we give them notice that things are wrong, that they will fix it. [01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:32.000] And what this group is finding is giving them notice that things are wrong doesn't fix anything. [01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:39.000] These guys, all it does is give them fair warning and show them how to hide what they're doing better. [01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:46.000] And I'm going to do a presentation and the presentation is really a metaphor. [01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:59.000] I've been doing this show for a long time and I've been trying to develop a way to present an idea. [01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:07.000] And the idea is about a different way of approaching these people. [01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:15.000] And those who've listened a long time know that I have made a rather serious study of neurolinguistic programming [01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:27.000] and conversational induction and a study and try to understand how human beings do what human beings do. [01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:32.000] I have absolutely no interest in abnormal psychology. [01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:41.000] In studying psychology, all I can find is treatments of abnormal psychology. [01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:49.000] I have a very difficult time finding any treatments of normal human behavior. [01:50:49.000 --> 01:51:01.000] It seems like nobody wants to talk about that, but how do you gauge abnormal behavior if you don't have a model of normal behavior? [01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:12.000] So I spent most of my time studying psychology trying to figure out how normal human beings do what normal human beings do. [01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:27.000] And one of the things that it has done is it has given me a greater acceptance and understanding of the variety of the human nature. [01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:36.000] That we are all dramatically different, but underlying all of that, we have some very consistent tendencies. [01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:53.000] And in trying to deal with public officials, there are some things we can do that goes to how normal human beings do what normal human beings do. [01:51:53.000 --> 01:52:00.000] Normal human beings learn how other people react and respond to them. [01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:09.000] In fact, the most important aspect of human interaction is predictability. [01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:22.000] There's nothing more psychologically devastating to a normal human being than to have something happen and they have no idea what to do. [01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:26.000] They have a situation occur and they're stopped. [01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:28.000] Mentally, they're stopped. [01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:35.000] They go inside and they look around for a behavior to apply to this situation and they don't have one. [01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:45.000] That's called pattern interruption because human beings can become extremely sophisticated. [01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:58.000] And the way we become extremely sophisticated is by developing skills in the form of patterns, by developing the ability to anticipate patterns. [01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:01.000] But let's say you got a handful of books. [01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:03.000] You're talking to someone else. [01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:14.000] You're walking up a set of steps and someone has put a quarter inch sheet of plywood on one of the steps and then carpeted over it. [01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:18.000] So walking up the steps, you can't see that there's a difference there. [01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:29.000] But when you lift your foot up and set it on that step and it stops a quarter inch from where you expect it to stop, instant pattern interruption. [01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:33.000] The inner mind says, whoa, hold on. [01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:36.000] I didn't hit that step where I expected to. [01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:45.000] And whatever you were doing, it trips you out of it and grabs the inner mind, grabs your conscious awareness, [01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:51.000] and has you look around at the environment you weren't paying attention to to figure out what went wrong. [01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:56.000] And you look down at the step and see that the step is well formed, it's not damaged. [01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:59.000] Then just somebody put a little extra plate on it. [01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:02.000] You figure that out in a tenth of a second. [01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:05.000] And then you go back to what you were doing. [01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:10.000] Well, that is so powerful. [01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:14.000] It is absolutely irresistible. [01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:26.000] I tell the story about going to the Denton County District Attorney's Office to get the district attorney to verify some criminal complaints against the district attorney. [01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:30.000] They sent this young kid out and he looked at my complaints. [01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:33.000] He said, I can't sign these. I'm just a PR around here. [01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:37.000] I said, what's the matter? Chicken? Yeah. [01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:39.000] So I like that guy. [01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:44.000] So they sent out the head of the criminal intake section, Roger Jones. [01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:48.000] I showed him to him, I'm not going to sign these. He threw them at me. [01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:52.000] And papers went everywhere and I'm catching them and picking them up. [01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:57.000] And I said, is there any special reason or are you just PO today? [01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:58.000] I'm just not going to accept them. [01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:07.000] So, okay. So I went over to the receptionist and I said, ma'am, have you got an attorney who's literate? [01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.000] She said, huh? You got one who could write. [01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:16.000] I need one to verify these criminal affidavits in accordance with their duty under Article 2.06 Code of Criminal Procedure. [01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:24.000] And Roger Jones said, Mr. Kelton, you are not welcome here anymore. [01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:30.000] And I turned around and said, well, Mr. Jones, I feel disparaged. [01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:37.000] You're going to hurt my feelings. Now, what I did was not random. [01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:49.000] It was very specific. Roger Jones told me something that was intended to be offensive and threatening. [01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:57.000] And I felt it. But I, because I felt it, I didn't respond to it. [01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:02.000] I did not do what I felt like doing. [01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:08.000] And I have this rule, whatever, somebody does something or says something and your response just comes out. [01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:11.000] You're being manipulated. You're being had. [01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:14.000] So whatever you feel like doing, don't do it. [01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:18.000] And immediately something else come to mind, don't do that either. [01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:21.000] Do the third thing. [01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:27.000] So when he told me I wasn't welcome here anymore, I ran the routine on him. [01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:32.000] And I said, well, Mr. Jones, I feel disparaged. You're going to hurt my feelings. [01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:36.000] Mr. Kelton, you're going to have to leave the building. [01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:41.000] And I knew I shouldn't have done it, but I just couldn't help myself. [01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:50.000] I said, what do you want, Mr. Jones, if you'll just bend over, I'll pull that wild hair out of you behind for you. [01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:55.000] And you and I go back to treat one another like mature and responsible adults. [01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:00.000] Well, he just froze in his tracks. [01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:04.000] He had no response to that. [01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.000] He looked at me like, I don't believe you just said that to me. [01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:12.000] And he had about a half a dozen of his underlings behind him. [01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:17.000] And they all got their fingers in their mouth trying to keep from laughing out loud. [01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:21.000] And I had something perfect happen. [01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:25.000] Mr. Cox, the head investigator, stepped out a side door. [01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:29.000] And this endowed me to make a second pattern interruption. [01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:38.000] If you do two pattern interruptions in a row, you give the person short-term amnesia for the first pattern interruption. [01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:42.000] So I turned to Mr. Cox. I said, hello, Mr. Cox. He said, hello, Mr. Kelton. [01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:44.000] Mr. Cox, I see you're packing. [01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:49.000] Yes, Mr. Kelton, I am. Tell me, Mr. Cox, is that pistol loaded? Yes, Mr. Kelton, it is. [01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.000] I said, well then, let's go for a walk. [01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:56.000] And I held up my elbow and he took my elbow and walked me out of the building, out of the office. [01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:59.000] And he said, Mr. Kelton, what did you do that for? [01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:03.000] I said, well, I've been a long time trying to get these guys to do something really stupid. [01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:07.000] Now I'm going to charge Roger Jones with aggravated assault. [01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:15.000] Well, Mr. Kelton, I didn't assault you. I said, no, you didn't. Roger Jones assaulted me with you. [01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.000] He just shook his head, oh no. [01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:31.000] But I interrupted Jones and most everything that I've talked about and this different way of going after these guys is about interrupting him. [01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:34.000] Do not give him legal advice. [01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:36.000] Don't let him know you're coming after him. [01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:40.000] Let him get interrupted by their boss when he comes and hammers them. [01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:43.000] OK, we are out of time. Thank you all for listening. [01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:45.000] We'll be back for more of this tomorrow night. [01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:48.000] Thank you all for listening and good night. 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