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[00:21.000 --> 00:27.000]  Markets for the 6th of August, 2015 opened up with gold at $1,089.62 an ounce.
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[00:43.000 --> 00:49.000]  Today in history, Monday, August 6, 1945, a uranium gun type atomic bomb named Little
[00:49.000 --> 00:54.000]  Boy was dropped on Hiroshima by U.S. B-29 bomber Super Fortress Enola Gay.
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[01:00.000 --> 01:02.000]  It destroyed five square miles of the city.
[01:02.000 --> 01:12.000]  $150,000 is the estimated death toll as a result of the initial blast and after effects.
[01:12.000 --> 01:16.000]  In recent news, the Republicans are having their big presidential nominee debate tonight,
[01:16.000 --> 01:18.000]  and big is not an understatement.
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[01:39.000 --> 01:44.000]  John Kissich, Rand Paul, Donald Trump, Mark Rubio, and Scott Walker having their two-hour
[01:44.000 --> 01:52.000]  scheduled debate at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, 8 central.
[01:52.000 --> 01:57.000]  A U.S. Fifth Circuit court in New Orleans found that Texas' law requiring residents
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[02:03.000 --> 02:06.000]  The ruling yesterday rejected the poll tax ruling from Corporate Christie, the U.S.
[02:06.000 --> 02:10.000]  District Court, last year since Texas has taken steps to allow residents to receive
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[02:11.000 --> 02:15.000]  But it upheld the lower court's assertion that the effect of the law was nonetheless
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[02:16.000 --> 02:20.000]  The case will now return to the U.S. District Court, which will have to decide whether Texas
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[02:55.000 --> 03:10.000]  This has been your Lowdown for August 6, 2015.
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[03:45.000 --> 04:00.000]  Howdy, howdy.
[04:00.000 --> 04:11.000]  This is Brady Kelton, Deborah Stevens, U of L radio on this, the sixth day of August,
[04:11.000 --> 04:16.000]  2015, and we are going to have our phone lines open all night.
[04:16.000 --> 04:26.000]  So if you have a question or a comment, give us a call at 512-646-1984.
[04:26.000 --> 04:28.000]  Make sure the phones are open.
[04:28.000 --> 04:36.000]  And I'm going to start out talking about an email I got from a good friend about taking
[04:36.000 --> 04:46.000]  I've been doing some little legal research here and he referenced the closing of the
[04:46.000 --> 04:52.000]  gun club in Washington that we talked about last week and he equated that to a taking
[04:52.000 --> 05:02.000]  and he sent me some case law and as I am prone to do, I looked at the case law and I found
[05:02.000 --> 05:06.000]  a concern that I often find.
[05:06.000 --> 05:13.000]  Be careful in quoting case law, especially if you haven't read the case.
[05:13.000 --> 05:18.000]  This one says the Supreme Court ruled that municipalities cannot exert any acts of
[05:18.000 --> 05:25.000]  ownership and control over property that is not owned by the MC Palazio versus Rhode Island
[05:25.000 --> 05:29.000]  533 US 606.
[05:29.000 --> 05:38.000]  Well, I pulled out the case and I couldn't find a reference to that anywhere in the case.
[05:38.000 --> 05:45.000]  Now the case was about taking of land.
[05:45.000 --> 05:54.000]  So a guy in Rhode Island had property that was in a wetland and had a small portion of
[05:54.000 --> 06:03.000]  it that wasn't in the wetland and the city, he wanted to fill in part of this wetland
[06:03.000 --> 06:11.000]  and make it commercial and the city had designated it a reserve.
[06:11.000 --> 06:19.000]  So big fight between him and the city and he accused the city of taking his property
[06:19.000 --> 06:27.000]  when they refused to allow him to build up this wetland so that he could put in a commercial
[06:27.000 --> 06:28.000]  business.
[06:28.000 --> 06:39.000]  Well, what the court did speak to the ability of a municipality to take someone's property
[06:39.000 --> 06:47.000]  through a condemnation hearing and it called that a suited common law.
[06:47.000 --> 06:57.000]  But there was nothing in there that even remotely resembled the Supreme Court rule that municipalities
[06:57.000 --> 07:07.000]  cannot exert any acts of ownership or control over property that is not owned by them.
[07:07.000 --> 07:17.000]  And in a way that maybe, because I couldn't read the whole case to find if that term of
[07:17.000 --> 07:23.000]  verbiage was actually in there, but in looking it certainly was the ruling.
[07:23.000 --> 07:28.000]  So the only way that would have precedential value is if it was the ruling of the court
[07:28.000 --> 07:29.000]  and it wasn't.
[07:29.000 --> 07:35.000]  They may have spoken to the fact that the municipality couldn't exercise control over
[07:35.000 --> 07:39.000]  property they had known, but this was really about a condemnation.
[07:39.000 --> 07:47.000]  It was about the city taking an action to actually take ownership of the land from the
[07:47.000 --> 07:50.000]  person who currently owned it.
[07:50.000 --> 08:00.000]  So I would expect this statement may have came up in the explanation in speaking to
[08:00.000 --> 08:03.000]  condemnation.
[08:03.000 --> 08:13.000]  But while that may be true that a city can't exercise control over a property, ownership
[08:13.000 --> 08:22.000]  and control, what this says is the Supreme Court ruled that municipalities cannot exert
[08:22.000 --> 08:31.000]  any acts of ownership and control over property that is not owned.
[08:31.000 --> 08:38.000]  So the city was trying to exercise control over the property, but before they did that
[08:38.000 --> 08:43.000]  they were trying to maintain, gain ownership through condemnation.
[08:43.000 --> 08:48.000]  And in this particular instance there was no actual ruling.
[08:48.000 --> 08:57.000]  The ruling went to the whiteness of the case for appeal and the case was remanded back
[08:57.000 --> 08:59.000]  to the district court for further hearing.
[08:59.000 --> 09:08.000]  So whenever someone sends you case law, especially if you're not certain where that case law
[09:08.000 --> 09:16.000]  comes, always, always, always get the case law out and at the very least read the Cliff
[09:16.000 --> 09:21.000]  Notes or the final order in the case.
[09:21.000 --> 09:25.000]  The final order in the case is what the court actually ruled.
[09:25.000 --> 09:29.000]  So just a word of caution, we come across this a lot.
[09:29.000 --> 09:38.000]  We come across it very often in motions and pleadings by lazy lawyers.
[09:38.000 --> 09:47.000]  We've had instances where an IRS lawyer cited a case to the court and when Ben actually
[09:47.000 --> 09:57.000]  read the case, he found that the court had said that this is what the court used to rule
[09:57.000 --> 10:01.000]  and they cited what the IRS had cited.
[10:01.000 --> 10:04.000]  And they said, but that's not the case anymore.
[10:04.000 --> 10:07.000]  Now it's this.
[10:07.000 --> 10:14.000]  So they cited as controlling law the example of what was overturned as controlling law.
[10:14.000 --> 10:20.000]  So Ben got to take their own case and go back into court and beat the heck out of them with
[10:20.000 --> 10:21.000]  it.
[10:21.000 --> 10:23.000]  He had great fun with that one.
[10:23.000 --> 10:24.000]  Okay.
[10:24.000 --> 10:26.000]  First, fair warning.
[10:26.000 --> 10:29.000]  And we have Jeff from Mississippi online.
[10:29.000 --> 10:31.000]  Hello, Mr. Jeff.
[10:31.000 --> 10:34.000]  What do you have for us today?
[10:34.000 --> 10:35.000]  Hi, Randy.
[10:35.000 --> 10:37.000]  Thanks for having me on the show.
[10:37.000 --> 10:45.000]  Oh, I was thinking of Jeff Sedgwick for some reason from Maryland and Jeff from Mississippi.
[10:45.000 --> 10:46.000]  Okay.
[10:46.000 --> 10:49.000]  How are things going down there in Mississippi?
[10:49.000 --> 10:50.000]  Okay.
[10:50.000 --> 11:01.000]  Well, you had me do some homework on looking up probable cause and complaints.
[11:01.000 --> 11:13.000]  So I found something from the Mississippi rules of criminal procedure, but it doesn't
[11:13.000 --> 11:17.000]  look like it's actually Mississippi rules from criminal procedure.
[11:17.000 --> 11:24.000]  It looks like it's a team from the chief justice, like an independent committee did a study
[11:24.000 --> 11:29.000]  and they put in their recommendations for revision.
[11:29.000 --> 11:30.000]  Okay.
[11:30.000 --> 11:33.000]  You got to understand what these are.
[11:33.000 --> 11:35.000]  These are rules.
[11:35.000 --> 11:36.000]  They're not laws.
[11:36.000 --> 11:42.000]  They're rules promulgated by the Supreme Court of the state.
[11:42.000 --> 11:47.000]  So that may cause it to make more sense when you have the Supreme Court mucking around
[11:47.000 --> 11:49.000]  with them.
[11:49.000 --> 11:50.000]  Okay.
[11:50.000 --> 11:51.000]  Because they can.
[11:51.000 --> 11:54.000]  They wrote them.
[11:54.000 --> 11:55.000]  Okay.
[11:55.000 --> 11:56.000]  Go ahead.
[11:56.000 --> 12:06.000]  My first question is aren't these powerful?
[12:06.000 --> 12:08.000]  Powerful?
[12:08.000 --> 12:09.000]  Yes.
[12:09.000 --> 12:11.000]  Okay.
[12:11.000 --> 12:22.000]  While they call them rules, they actually have the authority of statutes.
[12:22.000 --> 12:28.000]  They call them rules because the legislature didn't pass them, the Supreme Court did.
[12:28.000 --> 12:29.000]  Okay.
[12:29.000 --> 12:32.000]  But they are binding.
[12:32.000 --> 12:39.000]  Well, under here, under complaints, see, I've never had a written complaint at all.
[12:39.000 --> 12:42.000]  The attorney never filed a written complaint.
[12:42.000 --> 12:45.000]  They claimed that the indictment is the complaint.
[12:45.000 --> 12:52.000]  However, I was taken to justice court before I was indicted and I was taken for an arraignment.
[12:52.000 --> 12:57.000]  And so it says that a complaint is a written statement made upon oath before a judge, clerk
[12:57.000 --> 13:02.000]  of the court or other officer authorized by law to administer oath setting forth central
[13:02.000 --> 13:07.000]  underlying facts and circumstances constituting an offense.
[13:07.000 --> 13:08.000]  The nurse.
[13:08.000 --> 13:09.000]  I don't have anything.
[13:09.000 --> 13:12.000]  I'm not the indictment.
[13:12.000 --> 13:17.000]  Excuse me, you were indicted without ever having been charged with a crime.
[13:17.000 --> 13:19.000]  Well, I don't know.
[13:19.000 --> 13:21.000]  That's what I was wondering.
[13:21.000 --> 13:24.000]  I went to justice court.
[13:24.000 --> 13:31.000]  In Texas, you have a right to an examining trial.
[13:31.000 --> 13:32.000]  Yes.
[13:32.000 --> 13:40.000]  And if there is an indictment prior to an examining trial, the fact of the indictment
[13:40.000 --> 13:47.000]  cannot be read onto the records of the court until the accused has been arrested.
[13:47.000 --> 13:55.000]  So we have it in our code that they have to arrest you first and give you an examining
[13:55.000 --> 13:56.000]  trial.
[13:56.000 --> 14:05.000]  And the only way they can institute an examining trial is on a criminal complaint.
[14:05.000 --> 14:10.000]  Have you read the duties of the grand jury in Mississippi?
[14:10.000 --> 14:11.000]  Yes.
[14:11.000 --> 14:16.000]  And it says nothing about an examining trial, but I will start looking for the.
[14:16.000 --> 14:17.000]  Hold on.
[14:17.000 --> 14:19.000]  That's not what I'm looking for.
[14:19.000 --> 14:20.000]  Okay.
[14:20.000 --> 14:31.000]  The hour says that the grand jury shall examine into all crimes subject to indictment.
[14:31.000 --> 14:32.000]  Okay.
[14:32.000 --> 14:37.000]  I was wondering if yours mentions complaint.
[14:37.000 --> 14:38.000]  Got it.
[14:38.000 --> 14:39.000]  Okay.
[14:39.000 --> 14:40.000]  That'll be my homework.
[14:40.000 --> 14:42.000]  I'll look for that.
[14:42.000 --> 14:55.000]  But regardless, all there's going to be someplace in there where it's going to say that a criminal
[14:55.000 --> 15:00.000]  case must initiate on a criminal accusation.
[15:00.000 --> 15:06.000]  And in your case, nobody's ever accused you of a crime.
[15:06.000 --> 15:07.000]  Okay.
[15:07.000 --> 15:12.000]  So did you ask to be faced by your accuser?
[15:12.000 --> 15:14.000]  Yes, I did.
[15:14.000 --> 15:18.000]  Did you ask who your accuser was?
[15:18.000 --> 15:24.000]  No, I made a statement in court that my accuser was the roommate who's missing and he is not
[15:24.000 --> 15:31.000]  here and that the policeman was not even there to take...
[15:31.000 --> 15:35.000]  The policeman that testified against me didn't even take a police report.
[15:35.000 --> 15:37.000]  In other words, he didn't answer the phone call.
[15:37.000 --> 15:39.000]  He didn't talk to the roommate.
[15:39.000 --> 15:41.000]  He was just the guy that was dispatched.
[15:41.000 --> 15:48.000]  So both the policeman who wrote the report and the roommate who supposedly gave the report
[15:48.000 --> 15:49.000]  were missing.
[15:49.000 --> 15:53.000]  And I objected to that.
[15:53.000 --> 15:54.000]  Good.
[15:54.000 --> 15:57.000]  That'll probably clobber the case on appeal.
[15:57.000 --> 16:08.000]  But someone had to have officially accused you of a crime.
[16:08.000 --> 16:12.000]  Otherwise, you're denied constitutional due process.
[16:12.000 --> 16:15.000]  Okay.
[16:15.000 --> 16:23.000]  The state can't prosecute you without a citizen accusing you of a crime.
[16:23.000 --> 16:28.000]  Our founders went to war over that issue.
[16:28.000 --> 16:29.000]  Okay.
[16:29.000 --> 16:38.000]  The king could, through his minions, accuse you of anything he wanted to and then prosecute you.
[16:38.000 --> 16:41.000]  They set up this country.
[16:41.000 --> 16:45.000]  Our legislators said, our founders said, there'll be none of that.
[16:45.000 --> 16:47.000]  Hang on.
[16:47.000 --> 17:00.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheelbar Radio, our call-in number, 512-61984, we'll be right back.
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[19:23.000 --> 19:32.000]  Look what we got. We asked the question. You know what they are. They don't have the answer.
[19:32.000 --> 19:42.000]  Open up, I. We asked the question. Look what we got. And they don't have the answer.
[19:42.000 --> 19:44.000]  Let's hope and slip inside.
[19:44.000 --> 20:06.000]  Okay, we are back. We're in Kelton. We received the Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi.
[20:06.000 --> 20:10.000]  Okay, Jeff, where were we?
[20:10.000 --> 20:18.000]  Well, before I confuse the issue, I'm just going to run us through real fast, and I've gotten pretty quick at this.
[20:18.000 --> 20:27.000]  My roommate supposedly went into the police department and typed up an accusation against me.
[20:27.000 --> 20:30.000]  That was finally given to me.
[20:30.000 --> 20:40.000]  The name of the roommate was typed in, and the name of the policeman was typed at the bottom, but it was never signed nor dated.
[20:40.000 --> 20:44.000]  It's just literally a print-off. It could have been typed yesterday.
[20:44.000 --> 20:50.000]  The contents of the actual accusation were ridiculous.
[20:50.000 --> 21:02.000]  The roommate says that he heard Mr. Hill, which is myself, talking to a guy named Carmine on the phone, talking about killing somebody with a shotgun,
[21:02.000 --> 21:06.000]  the size of a shotgun shell to kill somebody.
[21:06.000 --> 21:14.000]  Then the policeman asked the roommate if he thought that Mr. Hill has any rifles in the apartment,
[21:14.000 --> 21:23.000]  and the roommate's answer was, I saw a book with a rifle on the cover of the book,
[21:23.000 --> 21:28.000]  but I don't believe that Mr. Hill has a rifle in the apartment.
[21:28.000 --> 21:34.000]  In his statement, he says, I don't believe Mr. Hill had a rifle in his apartment,
[21:34.000 --> 21:40.000]  but he was talking to some guy named Carmine about killing somebody with a size of buckshot or something.
[21:40.000 --> 21:47.000]  I read that in the court, and I told them that it sounded ridiculous, and they overruled it.
[21:47.000 --> 21:50.000]  They overruled me.
[21:50.000 --> 21:57.000]  Then I objected to the roommate not being there, nor was the policeman who took the report.
[21:57.000 --> 22:08.000]  He didn't show up either, so I objected and said, I've been denied my right to be heard.
[22:08.000 --> 22:12.000]  You've been denied your right to face your accuser.
[22:12.000 --> 22:16.000]  My right to face my accuser, okay.
[22:16.000 --> 22:19.000]  That's pretty clear-cut.
[22:19.000 --> 22:25.000]  The only statement you have is unsigned and unverified.
[22:25.000 --> 22:26.000]  Okay.
[22:26.000 --> 22:33.000]  There's no verified criminal affidavit by anyone accusing you of a crime.
[22:33.000 --> 22:39.000]  Now, it doesn't have to be a personal fact with this.
[22:39.000 --> 22:43.000]  You can be accused of a crime based on hearsay.
[22:43.000 --> 22:44.000]  All right.
[22:44.000 --> 22:48.000]  But it does have to be signed and sworn to.
[22:48.000 --> 22:56.000]  Well, now the affidavit after that was signed and sworn to by a policeman who was dispatched.
[22:56.000 --> 22:58.000]  Now, he's not the one that talked to my roommate.
[22:58.000 --> 23:01.000]  He even said in court that he doesn't know who the roommate is.
[23:01.000 --> 23:03.000]  He's never met him.
[23:03.000 --> 23:06.000]  And this guy was sent to dispatch.
[23:06.000 --> 23:09.000]  He was dispatched to come out to the apartment.
[23:09.000 --> 23:14.000]  And he signed an affidavit saying that he came to my apartment and picked me up and the rifle.
[23:14.000 --> 23:16.000]  And that's what he swore to.
[23:16.000 --> 23:21.000]  He said, yeah, I have first-hand knowledge because I was there in your apartment,
[23:21.000 --> 23:24.000]  and I grabbed that rifle in my hand, and I saw it with my own eyes.
[23:24.000 --> 23:27.000]  And that's what the affidavit claimed.
[23:27.000 --> 23:31.000]  And that's actually correct.
[23:31.000 --> 23:37.000]  The problem is getting him in the off, in the apartment.
[23:37.000 --> 23:39.000]  Did he have a warrant?
[23:39.000 --> 23:41.000]  No.
[23:41.000 --> 23:43.000]  Did you let him in?
[23:43.000 --> 23:45.000]  No.
[23:45.000 --> 23:52.000]  Then that's all fruit of the poison tree.
[23:52.000 --> 23:54.000]  And I can't see the...
[23:54.000 --> 23:57.000]  I objected, but I didn't say fruit of the poison tree.
[23:57.000 --> 24:00.000]  I just said no probable cause.
[24:00.000 --> 24:02.000]  Exactly.
[24:02.000 --> 24:04.000]  You didn't have to say fruit of the poison tree.
[24:04.000 --> 24:07.000]  You said the right thing, no probable cause.
[24:07.000 --> 24:15.000]  And that goes to the evidence being invalid.
[24:15.000 --> 24:17.000]  You'll get there.
[24:17.000 --> 24:26.000]  I can't see the court, the court of appeals, overturning 200 years of law.
[24:26.000 --> 24:28.000]  Got it.
[24:28.000 --> 24:36.000]  And if they rule that a policeman could come into your apartment without your permission
[24:36.000 --> 24:44.000]  and gather evidence, that will change everything.
[24:44.000 --> 24:47.000]  Okay.
[24:47.000 --> 24:50.000]  So do you have any other questions?
[24:50.000 --> 24:51.000]  Yes.
[24:51.000 --> 24:52.000]  I've got one more.
[24:52.000 --> 24:59.000]  And that is I've already been to the court of appeals for the Mississippi Supreme Court once.
[24:59.000 --> 25:04.000]  And my appeals attorney wrote my brief.
[25:04.000 --> 25:05.000]  I did not agree with it.
[25:05.000 --> 25:09.000]  I think that she swept a lot of stuff under the rug, so I bar briefed her.
[25:09.000 --> 25:15.000]  I'm convinced that my next appeals attorney is going to sweep everything under the rug that he can too.
[25:15.000 --> 25:21.000]  Do you think I should try to write my own brief?
[25:21.000 --> 25:27.000]  That's a good question.
[25:27.000 --> 25:35.000]  Your original attorney, the one you bar briefed, won for you.
[25:35.000 --> 25:40.000]  Yeah, but she used some real glossy, flippery ways to win.
[25:40.000 --> 25:44.000]  She didn't get it with both fists.
[25:44.000 --> 25:52.000]  She may know something about the politics of Mississippi that you don't.
[25:52.000 --> 25:53.000]  Okay.
[25:53.000 --> 25:59.000]  Well, I may win my case, but they'll come in and say, well, the judge had his hair styled the wrong way,
[25:59.000 --> 26:02.000]  and so we're going to allow Mr. Hill to win.
[26:02.000 --> 26:06.000]  But in all actuality, you know, we don't have a witness.
[26:06.000 --> 26:12.000]  You know, the roommate was missing, and that's the key thing that should come in and really blow the thing open.
[26:12.000 --> 26:16.000]  But I think they'll gloss it over and just claim that the floor wasn't mopped the correct way,
[26:16.000 --> 26:20.000]  and so they'll give me a win, but on something stupid.
[26:20.000 --> 26:24.000]  Well, you make shit with her.
[26:24.000 --> 26:30.000]  That's, they don't like to hammer, judges don't like to hammer other judges.
[26:30.000 --> 26:37.000]  And it sounds like there's so much corruption here that they're all working hand in glove.
[26:37.000 --> 26:48.000]  But the object is to win the appeal unless you want to take it to the Supreme.
[26:48.000 --> 26:54.000]  Well, what if my appeals attorney doesn't even put in the fact that the roommate was missing
[26:54.000 --> 27:00.000]  and, you know, that the complaint wasn't signed, none of the paperwork is signed, you know, all of it,
[27:00.000 --> 27:03.000]  that the heavy stuff, what if he doesn't put it in?
[27:03.000 --> 27:05.000]  If I bargain, they just laugh at that.
[27:05.000 --> 27:07.000]  They think it's funny.
[27:07.000 --> 27:09.000]  No, they don't.
[27:09.000 --> 27:12.000]  They want you to think they think it's funny.
[27:12.000 --> 27:19.000]  Their insurance company doesn't find it's funny.
[27:19.000 --> 27:27.000]  And if that's the case, you might try suing your attorney, but that's kind of off topic for here.
[27:27.000 --> 27:35.000]  One thing you might want to do is insist that you review the appeal before it is filed.
[27:35.000 --> 27:38.000]  Okay.
[27:38.000 --> 27:42.000]  Just she can't put anything in there you don't want her to,
[27:42.000 --> 27:49.000]  and I don't think she can leave out anything if you instruct her not to.
[27:49.000 --> 27:51.000]  Got it.
[27:51.000 --> 28:03.000]  And I don't think that's something I know for sure, but in the end, this is your life, so it's your case.
[28:03.000 --> 28:07.000]  Yeah, I hate to lose the appeal because you left everything out.
[28:07.000 --> 28:15.000]  Yeah, then you really want all this on the record for appeal because if they rule against you,
[28:15.000 --> 28:20.000]  then you're going to want to take it to the Supreme and then on up to the Fed and to the Fed Supreme,
[28:20.000 --> 28:22.000]  so you need it all in there.
[28:22.000 --> 28:29.000]  And you might tell your attorney just exactly that.
[28:29.000 --> 28:32.000]  Okay, then I want everything in the record.
[28:32.000 --> 28:39.000]  Because you intend to take this to the Fed Supreme if it goes that far.
[28:39.000 --> 28:41.000]  Okay.
[28:41.000 --> 28:47.000]  Now, my last question is I tried to read my affidavits into the record when I got up to testify
[28:47.000 --> 28:52.000]  and the judge stopped me, and I objected over and over and over.
[28:52.000 --> 28:59.000]  You denied me the right to be heard, and so he allowed it to go into evidence for inspection only.
[28:59.000 --> 29:03.000]  And I said, Judge, I want these affidavits to go in my appeal.
[29:03.000 --> 29:10.000]  Well, they show up in the appeal, and he said they'll be in the record.
[29:10.000 --> 29:14.000]  Okay, all of your objections are in the record.
[29:14.000 --> 29:22.000]  So the affidavits about which you are objecting are part of the record now?
[29:22.000 --> 29:26.000]  Oh, even though he wouldn't allow them into evidence.
[29:26.000 --> 29:35.000]  That's one of the things that you will appeal, is that he didn't allow the affidavit into evidence.
[29:35.000 --> 29:37.000]  Okay, well, that's all my questions.
[29:37.000 --> 29:39.000]  I'll let you go, and I'll call you back next week.
[29:39.000 --> 29:40.000]  All righty.
[29:40.000 --> 29:43.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Wheelball Radio.
[29:43.000 --> 29:47.000]  I've called at number 512-646-1984.
[29:47.000 --> 29:48.000]  Mark, I see you there.
[29:48.000 --> 29:49.000]  It's been a while.
[29:49.000 --> 29:51.000]  We'll pick you up on the other side.
[29:51.000 --> 30:03.000]  We'll be right back.
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[34:02.000 --> 34:04.000]  Randy Kelton with the radio.
[34:04.000 --> 34:07.000]  And we're going to Mark in Wisconsin.
[34:07.000 --> 34:13.000]  Now, Mark, I have another caller, Irina.
[34:13.000 --> 34:18.000]  She has exact same area code as you and called at almost the same time.
[34:18.000 --> 34:20.000]  Do you know Irina?
[34:20.000 --> 34:22.000]  I do not.
[34:22.000 --> 34:26.000]  I'm kind of an independent thinker on this end.
[34:26.000 --> 34:32.000]  But perhaps Irina has issues that I can work with her or she can work with me.
[34:32.000 --> 34:37.000]  Okay, well, in that case, I'm going to bump you, Bubba.
[34:37.000 --> 34:40.000]  She's a first-time caller, so I'm going to take her first.
[34:40.000 --> 34:41.000]  Would that be okay?
[34:41.000 --> 34:42.000]  Wonderful.
[34:42.000 --> 34:44.000]  You know I'll be here.
[34:44.000 --> 34:45.000]  Okay, hang on.
[34:45.000 --> 34:51.000]  Okay, we are going to Irina in Illinois, a first-time caller.
[34:51.000 --> 34:52.000]  Hello, Irina.
[34:52.000 --> 34:54.000]  What do you have for us today?
[34:54.000 --> 35:00.000]  Well, I was divorced three and a half years ago, and my ex-spouse, he's volatile.
[35:00.000 --> 35:01.000]  He was volatile.
[35:01.000 --> 35:03.000]  I had two orders of protection against him.
[35:03.000 --> 35:04.000]  Okay, wait a minute.
[35:04.000 --> 35:05.000]  Wait a minute.
[35:05.000 --> 35:06.000]  Hold on.
[35:06.000 --> 35:12.000]  Let me mic a little bit away from your mouth, you're distorted.
[35:12.000 --> 35:15.000]  Okay, try that again.
[35:15.000 --> 35:22.000]  Okay, I got divorced three and a half years ago, back in March.
[35:22.000 --> 35:27.000]  So it was three years in March, so three and a half years almost.
[35:27.000 --> 35:30.000]  And my ex-husband, he was volatile.
[35:30.000 --> 35:33.000]  I had orders of protection against him.
[35:33.000 --> 35:39.000]  One order of protection that I voluntarily dropped the charges because he was crying,
[35:39.000 --> 35:42.000]  bloody tears, and asking to save the family.
[35:42.000 --> 35:50.000]  And I agreed to do so if he continues to, if he will continue to participate in the therapy,
[35:50.000 --> 35:52.000]  which he promised he would.
[35:52.000 --> 35:58.000]  And the day I dropped the charges, that was the last day he went to see the therapist.
[35:58.000 --> 36:05.000]  And two months later, he ended up buying a gun because his FOID card was reinstalled.
[36:05.000 --> 36:08.000]  And he bought the gun, and I didn't feel safe.
[36:08.000 --> 36:12.000]  And I had two minor children at the time.
[36:12.000 --> 36:15.000]  And, well, there's two minors today, too.
[36:15.000 --> 36:22.000]  So I went to the courthouse, and I filed for another order of protection based on ammunition
[36:22.000 --> 36:28.000]  and safety, and he is ADHD, and he's borderline off by four.
[36:28.000 --> 36:30.000]  That was not treated at the time.
[36:30.000 --> 36:36.000]  And the judge issued an order of protection, an emergency order of protection.
[36:36.000 --> 36:39.000]  And the first hearing, he didn't show up.
[36:39.000 --> 36:41.000]  The second hearing, he showed up.
[36:41.000 --> 36:47.000]  And then he started making up stories that he didn't have money to go to the therapy.
[36:47.000 --> 36:52.000]  I'm like, well, of course, if you buy a gun and 500 rounds of ammunition,
[36:52.000 --> 36:55.000]  you can have some money for everything at the same time.
[36:55.000 --> 36:59.000]  So the judge ordered for him to sell the gun,
[36:59.000 --> 37:04.000]  it was his FOID card, and to sell ammunition.
[37:04.000 --> 37:14.000]  And the order of protection was basically dropped because all the guns and ammunition were sold.
[37:14.000 --> 37:18.000]  And so it basically was no threat for me or for children.
[37:18.000 --> 37:22.000]  And I told him, don't come home because I'm filing for divorce.
[37:22.000 --> 37:24.000]  I mean, if you want a house, that's fine.
[37:24.000 --> 37:27.000]  Give me two weeks, I will be out of the house.
[37:27.000 --> 37:31.000]  Or if you're okay for us to stay in the house, then...
[37:31.000 --> 37:34.000]  Okay, do you have a question for us?
[37:34.000 --> 37:36.000]  I have a question, yes.
[37:36.000 --> 37:42.000]  So I have two boys, and one is nine and another one is six.
[37:42.000 --> 37:47.000]  And two years ago, my oldest one told me that he want to stay with the father.
[37:47.000 --> 37:55.000]  And I'm like, okay, he was a volatile spouse, but he was never a volatile father.
[37:55.000 --> 37:59.000]  So I let my son to go and stay with the father.
[37:59.000 --> 38:07.000]  So now, back in December, it was Christmas, December 2014,
[38:07.000 --> 38:12.000]  my son told me about the rope. I'm like, what rope?
[38:12.000 --> 38:15.000]  He goes, you know, when you put the rope on a person's mess,
[38:15.000 --> 38:20.000]  and you tell them to jump on the rope gets tied, and the person dies.
[38:20.000 --> 38:24.000]  I'm like, okay, that's eight-year-old.
[38:24.000 --> 38:27.000]  So eventually, he told me that the father did it to him.
[38:27.000 --> 38:30.000]  He did what? He took me in a garage.
[38:30.000 --> 38:32.000]  He put me in a step stool.
[38:32.000 --> 38:35.000]  He put the rope on my neck, and he told me to jump.
[38:35.000 --> 38:39.000]  So I took my son to the police department.
[38:39.000 --> 38:43.000]  We filed a police report, and I said, that's it.
[38:43.000 --> 38:47.000]  I want him to be back with me, because obviously the father is going crazy,
[38:47.000 --> 38:52.000]  and there is no how to parent a child, and it's not safe for him.
[38:52.000 --> 38:58.000]  And I was seeking legal advice. I spoke to...
[38:58.000 --> 39:01.000]  Okay, wait. I'm kind of going to get to the issue.
[39:01.000 --> 39:07.000]  So the father is volatile, he's still unstable, and he threatened the life of the child.
[39:07.000 --> 39:10.000]  Did the court give you an injunction?
[39:10.000 --> 39:13.000]  Yes, the court...
[39:13.000 --> 39:16.000]  So I seek legal advice. I go, do I need to file anything?
[39:16.000 --> 39:20.000]  Because legally nothing has been modified, even though one child was living with me,
[39:20.000 --> 39:22.000]  and the oldest child was living with the father.
[39:22.000 --> 39:26.000]  So two attorneys told me that nothing needs to be modified.
[39:26.000 --> 39:31.000]  No motion needs to be filed or anything, because nothing has been changed.
[39:31.000 --> 39:35.000]  Both attorneys told me, how can you ask the judge something that you already have?
[39:35.000 --> 39:38.000]  You're just going to piss the judge off, and that's going to be the end of the story.
[39:38.000 --> 39:39.000]  Okay.
[39:39.000 --> 39:41.000]  So he...
[39:41.000 --> 39:43.000]  Okay, hold on just a second.
[39:43.000 --> 39:44.000]  Yes.
[39:44.000 --> 39:48.000]  So you had full custody of the child, is that correct?
[39:48.000 --> 39:52.000]  In Illinois, it's legal custody and residential custody.
[39:52.000 --> 39:56.000]  So I was a residential parent, and we had a shared legal custody,
[39:56.000 --> 39:58.000]  according to the divorce paperwork.
[39:58.000 --> 40:05.000]  Yeah, but you were the parent where the child was given...
[40:05.000 --> 40:07.000]  the court ordered the child to stay with you,
[40:07.000 --> 40:13.000]  and you allowed the child to stay with the parent voluntarily, is that correct?
[40:13.000 --> 40:15.000]  That is correct.
[40:15.000 --> 40:21.000]  Now, have you ordered the father to return the child?
[40:21.000 --> 40:27.000]  I sent a certified mail because of the incident with the rope.
[40:27.000 --> 40:35.000]  I went back to the divorce agreement and parenting, you know, divorce paperwork agreement.
[40:35.000 --> 40:36.000]  That's what I sent.
[40:36.000 --> 40:37.000]  Okay.
[40:37.000 --> 40:40.000]  That's what attorneys told me to do, and that's what I did.
[40:40.000 --> 40:42.000]  You might consider...
[40:42.000 --> 40:49.000]  If you ordered him to return the child, you allowed the child to go to him on a visit.
[40:49.000 --> 40:54.000]  It was an extended visit, but it was a visit because you still have custodian.
[40:54.000 --> 40:56.000]  You're the custodial parent.
[40:56.000 --> 40:58.000]  That is correct.
[40:58.000 --> 41:01.000]  So you've ordered him to return him, and he hasn't,
[41:01.000 --> 41:05.000]  thus kidnapping in most every state.
[41:05.000 --> 41:12.000]  So both of the kids were with me, and I brought him in school here
[41:12.000 --> 41:17.000]  because, you know, I live in the city and the father lives in the suburbs.
[41:17.000 --> 41:20.000]  I filed two motions.
[41:20.000 --> 41:25.000]  One is to modify visitation, to do visitation...
[41:25.000 --> 41:26.000]  Wait a minute.
[41:26.000 --> 41:27.000]  Hold on.
[41:27.000 --> 41:30.000]  Are both children with you now?
[41:30.000 --> 41:35.000]  They're with me now, but we're in a process because, Judge,
[41:35.000 --> 41:41.000]  what I was trying to tell you when I filed the motion and we went to hear the motion,
[41:41.000 --> 41:46.000]  the father came with the father's right attorney and slapped me with an emergency motion
[41:46.000 --> 41:52.000]  accusing me that I basically kidnapped my son because I didn't inform him,
[41:52.000 --> 41:56.000]  even though I sent him a certified mail and I didn't inform him.
[41:56.000 --> 42:02.000]  And the judge ordered to return the son, my oldest son, back.
[42:02.000 --> 42:03.000]  I want your honor.
[42:03.000 --> 42:07.000]  The father put the rope on the son's neck and told him to jump,
[42:07.000 --> 42:10.000]  and I go, I don't feel comfortable.
[42:10.000 --> 42:14.000]  And the judge said, well, you know, kids watch the movies and come up with all kinds of stories.
[42:14.000 --> 42:20.000]  Oh, your honor, why in the world would he come up with something horrible like this?
[42:20.000 --> 42:21.000]  He loves his father.
[42:21.000 --> 42:23.000]  That's, you know, out of the question.
[42:23.000 --> 42:25.000]  I mean, I have no doubt about that.
[42:25.000 --> 42:30.000]  So the judge ordered to return the child to the father.
[42:30.000 --> 42:33.000]  This kind of problem occurs all the time.
[42:33.000 --> 42:36.000]  But what is your ultimate question?
[42:36.000 --> 42:39.000]  My ultimate question is that the father is abusive.
[42:39.000 --> 42:42.000]  The father has a mental issue.
[42:42.000 --> 42:45.000]  That's not a question.
[42:45.000 --> 42:49.000]  I understand he's a bad guy.
[42:49.000 --> 42:51.000]  What are you trying to achieve?
[42:51.000 --> 42:56.000]  And I mean, we're dealing with the JAL now, and JAL, I'm sending him emails.
[42:56.000 --> 42:57.000]  He's not responding.
[42:57.000 --> 43:02.000]  I'm sending him video where Philip told me, and I recorded it,
[43:02.000 --> 43:07.000]  videotaped it, that his stepsister is pulling his hair when he misbehaves.
[43:07.000 --> 43:09.000]  And I go, but that's okay.
[43:09.000 --> 43:10.000]  I already got used to it.
[43:10.000 --> 43:12.000]  I go, Philip, this is not okay.
[43:12.000 --> 43:13.000]  We don't do that.
[43:13.000 --> 43:14.000]  It's not the way...
[43:14.000 --> 43:15.000]  Okay.
[43:15.000 --> 43:20.000]  You're telling me the whole story, but you never have asked me a question.
[43:20.000 --> 43:26.000]  I don't feel that the judge is doing the right thing, so to speak.
[43:26.000 --> 43:30.000]  Why to return the child to abuse the father?
[43:30.000 --> 43:34.000]  I mean, what do I do from there?
[43:34.000 --> 43:42.000]  This is, I think, family law may be the most difficult area of law in existence.
[43:42.000 --> 43:43.000]  Hang on.
[43:43.000 --> 43:44.000]  We're about to go to break.
[43:44.000 --> 43:46.000]  This is Randy Kelton with our radio.
[43:46.000 --> 43:50.000]  I'll call at number 512-646-1984.
[43:50.000 --> 43:51.000]  Give us a call.
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[46:14.000 --> 46:20.000]  If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one?
[46:20.000 --> 46:26.000]  If you could not reach anybody too long, what would your purpose have to be done?
[46:26.000 --> 46:32.000]  Would you stand up on your own two or worry your arms up, scuffle and keep the peace?
[46:32.000 --> 46:35.000]  All I'm taking is my misunderstanding.
[46:35.000 --> 46:43.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, David Stevens, we have our radio and we're talking to Irina in Illinois.
[46:43.000 --> 46:49.000]  And I'm trying to get this sorted out. You were, you're the custodial parent.
[46:49.000 --> 46:53.000]  You allowed the older son to stay with the father.
[46:53.000 --> 47:01.000]  Then the older son accused the father of putting a rope around his neck and asking him to jump.
[47:01.000 --> 47:09.000]  And I take it that the child was returned to you, is that correct?
[47:09.000 --> 47:11.000]  So you can say what was the question?
[47:11.000 --> 47:22.000]  Was the child, after the accusation of the father putting a rope around the child's neck, was the child returned to you?
[47:22.000 --> 47:32.000]  Yes, I brought, I mean, the father dropped him off because he was, the father was going with his girlfriend to Hawaii to get married.
[47:32.000 --> 47:38.000]  Okay, how did the child wind up back with the father?
[47:38.000 --> 47:47.000]  Because when we went to court for the motions that I filed for the hearing of the motions,
[47:47.000 --> 47:52.000]  the judge ordered to return the son back to the father.
[47:52.000 --> 47:54.000]  Okay.
[47:54.000 --> 48:04.000]  And ordered GIL investigation to find out which, you know, which household is better for him and his name.
[48:04.000 --> 48:10.000]  This is, this is a difficult thing.
[48:10.000 --> 48:20.000]  A family court judge, if a family court judge does his job correctly, no one will be happy.
[48:20.000 --> 48:28.000]  That is absolutely a position I would never, ever want to be in, is to be a judge in a family law case.
[48:28.000 --> 48:37.000]  Because you have two people who are very, very angry at each other and very emotional, and their children are involved.
[48:37.000 --> 48:43.000]  And nothing generates stronger emotions than your children.
[48:43.000 --> 48:51.000]  So the judge is apparently trying to figure out what is best for the children.
[48:51.000 --> 48:56.000]  When I have people come to me talking about divorce, I always warn them.
[48:56.000 --> 48:58.000]  The judge don't care about you.
[48:58.000 --> 49:01.000]  The judge don't care about the husband.
[49:01.000 --> 49:05.000]  The judge only cares about the kids.
[49:05.000 --> 49:11.000]  So he's going to make his decision based on what he believes is best for the kids, always.
[49:11.000 --> 49:15.000]  So you have to be careful what you ask the judge for.
[49:15.000 --> 49:33.000]  You have to be careful how angry you sound at the husband, because the judge is going to take what you say with less seriousness if it sounds like it comes from anger.
[49:33.000 --> 49:35.000]  Okay.
[49:35.000 --> 49:46.000]  And from what you've told me, I hear a lot of really horrible stories about family law, and we're here in Tarrant County, Texas, Fort Worth.
[49:46.000 --> 49:56.000]  And I have some friends I'm working with, and we are really going after what we believe to be corruption in the family courts.
[49:56.000 --> 49:59.000]  So I could spend a lot of time on the corruption.
[49:59.000 --> 50:07.000]  I grew up in Illinois with Mayor Daley, Mr. Mayor, and I fully understand how corrupt Illinois can be.
[50:07.000 --> 50:18.000]  But from what you've told me, it sounds like a judge is trying to walk a tightrope and find the best place for these children.
[50:18.000 --> 50:23.000]  Does the son still want to be with the father?
[50:23.000 --> 50:32.000]  You know, when the gardener's item came with a home visit, my youngest son was at home, but my oldest son was with the father.
[50:32.000 --> 50:44.000]  So the gardener's item never even had a chance to observe me interacting with my oldest son, and he's giving recommendations to the judge.
[50:44.000 --> 50:53.000]  I mean, when I looked it up, the gardener's item guidelines, it advised the gardener's item to meet with the child at least twice.
[50:53.000 --> 51:09.000]  I mean, it just sounds to me that it's so one-sided story because my former attorney, who was in the chamber's office when the JAL presented the oral presentation of his investigation results,
[51:09.000 --> 51:19.000]  nothing had been mentioned about the father's mental health, nothing had been mentioned about father's volatile past and history.
[51:19.000 --> 51:24.000]  So it just doesn't sound right.
[51:24.000 --> 51:34.000]  The problem with all cases is both sides seem to feel the same way.
[51:34.000 --> 51:42.000]  You are not going to get everything you want. You might as well accept that. It's just not going to happen.
[51:42.000 --> 51:54.000]  They're going to try to find a balance, and when you don't get what you want, you tend to feel mistreated, and you tend to feel justifiably frightened for the welfare of your children.
[51:54.000 --> 52:03.000]  And that tends to make you even more concerned than you would normally be.
[52:03.000 --> 52:11.000]  I suspect that if I talk to the husband, he would have similar concerns.
[52:11.000 --> 52:18.000]  Every time I talk to couples, they always have concerns about each other, and I've got a judge sitting up there.
[52:18.000 --> 52:23.000]  Even if what the husband's telling him is not true, he has no way of knowing that.
[52:23.000 --> 52:33.000]  He's got two angry people here who are very worried about the children, and he's got to try to figure out which one's telling him the truth.
[52:33.000 --> 52:40.000]  And in the process, he has to figure out what is best for the children.
[52:40.000 --> 52:45.000]  Well, he already reported me twice to the DCFS for no reason.
[52:45.000 --> 52:54.000]  I mean, last week he reported me to the DCFS, and the DCFS came to the YMCA hands and spoke to my children without even my knowledge.
[52:54.000 --> 52:58.000]  And the kids told me, yeah, the guy's going to do it.
[52:58.000 --> 53:02.000]  There's going to be a lot of things that you're going to be angry about.
[53:02.000 --> 53:13.000]  The thing about the child telling you about the husband putting a rope around his neck and telling him the truth, children tell some pretty interesting stories when they get angry, when they don't get what they want.
[53:13.000 --> 53:17.000]  But the father admitted it in court. The father admitted that he did it.
[53:17.000 --> 53:23.000]  Now, that's scary business. Did he explain it in any way?
[53:23.000 --> 53:24.000]  Pardon me?
[53:24.000 --> 53:27.000]  Did he explain why he did that?
[53:27.000 --> 53:41.000]  Yes. He said that still it was riding the bicycle, and he kept crossing the curb, you know, on like Papanton Street, and the father got pissed.
[53:41.000 --> 53:46.000]  And he said, oh, so you want to die, you know, like on the bicycle? Come on, I'm going to show you how you can die.
[53:46.000 --> 53:51.000]  Oh, okay. See, that changes it a whole lot.
[53:51.000 --> 53:56.000]  It wasn't like the father was out of his mind or something.
[53:56.000 --> 54:02.000]  He was trying to get the child's attention.
[54:02.000 --> 54:10.000]  Perhaps he did it in a way that wasn't the best way he should have done that, but...
[54:10.000 --> 54:11.000]  I understand.
[54:11.000 --> 54:15.000]  It doesn't sound like he was really trying to harm the child.
[54:15.000 --> 54:20.000]  He was trying to make a point to keep the child from getting himself hurt.
[54:20.000 --> 54:31.000]  We're angry, we're frustrated when we get in a divorce situation, and we won't have to struggle against that.
[54:31.000 --> 54:42.000]  If you come to the court and you seem to be the most reasonable and most caring about the children, you're more likely to get more of what you want.
[54:42.000 --> 54:52.000]  You come to the court angry and accusing, then the court is not going to trust you what you tell them.
[54:52.000 --> 54:57.000]  And I do understand how terribly hard this is.
[54:57.000 --> 55:04.000]  It is hard because I'm sending emails to the JAL and nothing can return.
[55:04.000 --> 55:13.000]  I sent him an email with the facts, with the numbers, with the date, what happened, what he told me about he got left out of the house.
[55:13.000 --> 55:25.000]  The only real guideline I can give you is step into the shoes of the judge and put yourself in his position.
[55:25.000 --> 55:31.000]  And his only real concern is the welfare of these children.
[55:31.000 --> 55:41.000]  If the oldest son is very attached to the husband, to take him away from his father, it's going to damage him.
[55:41.000 --> 55:47.000]  But he's got to weigh that against the potential harm the father's going to cause and the alienation of the mother.
[55:47.000 --> 55:51.000]  There's nothing he can do that's going to make everybody happy.
[55:51.000 --> 55:57.000]  And then he's sitting up there terrified that he'll make the wrong decision.
[55:57.000 --> 56:08.000]  It's a really hard place to be if you go into court with an understanding of the problem the judge has to deal with.
[56:08.000 --> 56:18.000]  It will tell you how to make it easier for the judge to give you the decision that you want.
[56:18.000 --> 56:30.000]  Okay, I have another question. So if I send an email to JL, does JL respond or just wait for the next time we see each other in court?
[56:30.000 --> 56:42.000]  It's probably better that you, depending on what the email is, if the email is angry and threatening, always keeping in mind,
[56:42.000 --> 56:48.000]  he will use anything he can against you.
[56:48.000 --> 56:54.000]  A lawyer is trained to misconstrued everything you say.
[56:54.000 --> 57:00.000]  So you have to be very careful of how you string your words together.
[57:00.000 --> 57:07.000]  And apparently your first language is not English, and that makes this even worse.
[57:07.000 --> 57:21.000]  This is really hard for native speakers of English to use the language in a way such that it cannot easily be misconstrued.
[57:21.000 --> 57:30.000]  Always think about when you're going to write some write, some write, some write, some write, some write, some write into him.
[57:30.000 --> 57:36.000]  How can they take this and twist it to make it sound like something else?
[57:36.000 --> 57:42.000]  And always think, what is your purpose in writing the email?
[57:42.000 --> 57:47.000]  What is the end result you're trying to achieve?
[57:47.000 --> 57:54.000]  If your email won't move you toward your intended ultimate outcome, don't do it.
[57:54.000 --> 57:57.000]  I got to go. Okay, hold on. We're about to go to break.
[57:57.000 --> 58:07.000]  There's not a whole lot more I can help you with other than to try to understand the judge's position, and you'd better be able to sway him.
[58:07.000 --> 58:09.000]  Okay, we're about to go to break. Thank you for calling, Irina.
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[01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:54.000]  Today in history, Monday, August 6, 1945, a uranium gun type atomic bomb named Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima by U.S. B-29 bomber Super Fortress Enola Gay.
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[01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:16.000]  In recent news, the Republicans are having their big presidential nominee debate tonight.
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[01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:05.400]  Okay, we are back Randy Kelton with La Radio and we're going to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:06.400]  Hello, Mark.
[01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:07.400]  Hello, Mr. Kelton.
[01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.400]  How are you finding?
[01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:11.400]  What?
[01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:16.800]  I want to know what kind of trouble you have been spreading lately.
[01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:26.360]  Well, unfortunately, I did not follow your advice and I blew it earlier this week, but
[01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:31.800]  the kind of trouble I'm getting into, I wanted to share with your listeners, notably you
[01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:38.680]  had a Mark from down in your neck of the wood, Texas, who was looking at a written mandamus
[01:04:38.680 --> 01:04:42.800]  and I have two Texas written mandamuses to share.
[01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:44.600]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:04:44.600 --> 01:04:51.600]  All right, the first one, both of them are computer companies, computer related companies
[01:04:51.600 --> 01:04:57.040]  who demanded judges in Texas do their job.
[01:04:57.040 --> 01:05:03.680]  Well, that's kind of outrageous.
[01:05:03.680 --> 01:05:08.600]  I know and it follows your advice of be a plagiarist.
[01:05:08.600 --> 01:05:15.760]  So, hopefully Mark in Texas can look at these and go, oh look, here's a form to follow for
[01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:22.600]  me to plagiarize so when I send this stuff to the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit,
[01:05:22.600 --> 01:05:28.120]  he can copy the New Egg and the Google writs of mandamus.
[01:05:28.120 --> 01:05:45.360]  The New Egg case is 2 colon 11 dash CV dash 2 or dash 00248, 2 colon 11 dash CV 00248,
[01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.080]  Judge Rodney Gilstrap.
[01:05:48.080 --> 01:05:53.400]  What court is that in?
[01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:58.440]  Eastern District of Texas, is what the writ says.
[01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:00.680]  So, that's a federal.
[01:06:00.680 --> 01:06:08.600]  So, if you search on, yeah, if you search on New Egg, writ of mandamus, Rodney Gilstrap,
[01:06:08.600 --> 01:06:16.040]  I'm sure Google will go ahead and kick you to the Amazon shared server where you can
[01:06:16.040 --> 01:06:18.040]  just download it.
[01:06:18.040 --> 01:06:20.680]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:06:20.680 --> 01:06:28.000]  The second one, I do not have the original appeal, but I do have the order from the judge
[01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:30.480]  and this would be the Google one.
[01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:38.280]  The judge in question is Roy S. Payne, P-A-Y-N-E and the case number is 2 colon 14 dash CV
[01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:49.240]  dash 00760 dash JRG dash RSP.
[01:06:49.240 --> 01:06:56.160]  And the other number on it is 2 0 1 5 dash 1 3 8.
[01:06:56.160 --> 01:07:12.440]  This CV, that CV means civil, 00760, 2014, the 14s of the year and then 760 to 760 civil
[01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:13.440]  case of the year.
[01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.440]  So, it's probably January, February.
[01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:25.200]  Right, this was, let's see, Eastern District of Texas, basically a lot of the Eastern District
[01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:32.640]  of Texas appears to be where a lot of patent trolls hang out and so, this is all down in
[01:07:32.640 --> 01:07:37.320]  near, you know, down in Texas, Eastern District patent trolls.
[01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:44.920]  Oh, okay, so this is so we can find some, let me see if I can pull those and put them
[01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.480]  on the jurisprudence.
[01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:54.320]  I'll email you the links to them and so that way you can take care of that in jurisprudence.
[01:07:54.320 --> 01:08:02.200]  All right, now, telling, going ahead and telling the tale of how I didn't listen to you, how
[01:08:02.200 --> 01:08:09.960]  I didn't listen to you is when the sheriff said, asked who I was when looking at a public
[01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:13.440]  record, I didn't say card.
[01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:16.440]  I instead went ahead and identified myself.
[01:08:16.440 --> 01:08:22.120]  Oh, that's okay, always identify yourself, just say, you know, always tell them your
[01:08:22.120 --> 01:08:27.080]  name because you don't want them asking you a bunch of questions, so that's good, that's
[01:08:27.080 --> 01:08:28.080]  okay.
[01:08:28.080 --> 01:08:34.520]  All right, and I went ahead and put on my gravelly voice and said, I'm Mark.
[01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.000]  And he apparently didn't like that.
[01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.840]  He also, they didn't like that I have really kind of two volumes.
[01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:46.560]  One of them is loud and so I went into my loud volume.
[01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:52.120]  It was loud enough and it was gravelly enough that ultimately the judge in the criminal
[01:08:52.120 --> 01:08:59.160]  court came out from her room, not in a robe, but just regular cities and decided she needed
[01:08:59.160 --> 01:09:02.280]  to talk to me.
[01:09:02.280 --> 01:09:07.760]  The situation is there's a criminal case where the DA got some paperwork and submitted it
[01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:13.600]  to the judge and I went, slept to myself down there and went to, you know, wanted to see
[01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:20.040]  a copy of this and I knew full well that they wouldn't have the file or the copy of what
[01:09:20.040 --> 01:09:21.040]  I wanted to see.
[01:09:21.040 --> 01:09:25.920]  It would be sitting in the judge's, you know, in the courtroom, so I went around, found
[01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:30.920]  the courtroom and went and got, looked at the piece of paper.
[01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:35.680]  After I identified, told the deputy, I said, by the way, I don't believe you can ask who
[01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:41.760]  I am because, you know, Wisconsin law says you can't do that.
[01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:47.160]  He sat there for about 30 seconds, 45 seconds and then he decided he was going to cop an
[01:09:47.160 --> 01:09:52.440]  attitude with me and he got up and was standing there with his hands next to his weapon and
[01:09:52.440 --> 01:09:59.800]  all the rest of that stuff and then the conversation was starting to go downhill and that's when
[01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:05.480]  the judge came rolling out and the judge was telling me, oh, this isn't a public record
[01:10:05.480 --> 01:10:14.200]  yet because it wasn't in the clerk of the court and I was thinking to myself, self,
[01:10:14.200 --> 01:10:19.400]  you know, I haven't called Mr. Kelton in a while and I wanted to get him to confirm that
[01:10:19.400 --> 01:10:26.640]  most likely that is still a public record and, you know, it would also be a good tale
[01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:27.640]  to tell.
[01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:28.640]  So, hello.
[01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:38.880]  Yeah, I would like to see that part. I have never seen that part. It is a court record.
[01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:50.080]  I haven't seen anything that's, that mentions clerk when talking about court records.
[01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:57.360]  If it's created by the court and it's a part of the adjudication of a case, it's a court
[01:10:57.360 --> 01:11:05.600]  record. If it's created by the court and it's administrative, then it falls under public
[01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:11.640]  records, at least here in Texas and it's probably the same there. Where they buy their toilet
[01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:20.800]  paper is not a court record. How they administer the courts, not a court record. That's public
[01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:24.280]  records.
[01:11:24.280 --> 01:11:33.160]  Court records are records concerning the adjudication of cases and it says they're all public. It
[01:11:33.160 --> 01:11:40.480]  doesn't say they're not, they're private until somebody happens to file one with the clerk
[01:11:40.480 --> 01:11:50.680]  because I just filed a request here in Tarrant County for all of the JP's emails. Well, the
[01:11:50.680 --> 01:12:04.520]  clerk didn't have those, but I got them and they were very, very unhappy. The judge actually
[01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:12.280]  told me, Mr. Kelkin, if you will tell me what you're looking for, I can make your search
[01:12:12.280 --> 01:12:19.340]  a lot easier. I said, yes, your honor. I'm sure you could, but if I told you what I was
[01:12:19.340 --> 01:12:27.120]  looking for, and then I didn't find what I expected to, you would be compromised. And
[01:12:27.120 --> 01:12:37.040]  she said, I see your point. Now, what she said to me bordered very, very closely on
[01:12:37.040 --> 01:12:45.840]  why do you want to see these records? Not quite, but close enough for a judge to do
[01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:59.880]  that was really surprising. What I didn't tell the judge is I asked to see her emails
[01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:08.680]  because I didn't know. They would pull to try to keep me from seeing them. And they
[01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:12.960]  posted some shenanigans and I got to walk through it. One of these days I'll get an
[01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.920]  opportunity to tell the judge that the only reason I asked for hers is because I didn't
[01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:25.920]  think anything was in there. And that will really make her want to choke me. Anyway,
[01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:32.800]  that's a nice way to do it. But if your question is, is she correct in that? I'm going to
[01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:43.640]  have to say a resounding, absolutely not. So Mark, what should you do about that?
[01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:51.640]  Well, amazingly, what I was thinking about doing is this is the second time one of our
[01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:59.480]  finest sheriff department members has choked me around. Now, to be fair, these people
[01:13:59.480 --> 01:14:08.600]  just see me coming in dressed, not in my finest clothes. And it's amazing how much difference
[01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:15.760]  the court and the court's employees treat you when you come in with a suit and tie versus
[01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:24.000]  coming in like you're something that rolled out of the awful truck at the local slaughterhouse.
[01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:31.440]  Whenever I go to the court and I'm not wearing a suit and tie, I generally wind up in jail.
[01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:38.120]  I haven't quite gotten to that point where I can guarantee you jail time for myself.
[01:14:38.120 --> 01:14:45.720]  But I guess I'm working towards that. The other thing that I saw while I was at the
[01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:52.160]  courthouse, and I've got to investigate, is I really should get myself for my telephone
[01:14:52.160 --> 01:15:00.400]  or recording device. One of those head pieces that has the audio that's a tube, so it's
[01:15:00.400 --> 01:15:04.760]  nice and clear and coiled and goes to my ear, that way when I wear it, I can talk to it.
[01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:17.000]  Earwig, like the CIA uses? Yeah, yeah. I think that that will have an effect, probably one
[01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:22.080]  of those very confusing effects. Okay, okay. You've got to try this one.
[01:15:22.080 --> 01:15:28.280]  I went into the sheriff's office and I'm trying to get some information. Sheriff's getting
[01:15:28.280 --> 01:15:36.880]  kind of cranky with me. I said, Sheriff, I'm an old guy and I don't hear you so well anymore.
[01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:45.040]  Will you look and speak clearly into my pen, please? His eyes shot down in my pocket and
[01:15:45.040 --> 01:15:58.600]  there wasn't any pen in there. But I did have a digital recorder stuck in that pocket.
[01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:05.840]  I went into the county courthouse and laid my phone on the little conveyor and they noticed
[01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:12.920]  I had a pocket clip on the back of the phone as a part of the cover to it. He said, that
[01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:19.080]  is interesting. Where did you get that? I told him I made it. I couldn't find one, so
[01:16:19.080 --> 01:16:25.720]  I made it. I've been a piece of aluminum and made a clip. He said, well, that is really
[01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:31.600]  interesting. I said, well, the reason I made it is, and I showed him if you set your phone
[01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:37.840]  down in your pocket with this clip on it, it keeps the camera up above the lip of your
[01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:43.600]  mouth. He said, have you been videotaping us without our permission? Oh yeah, I do that
[01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:54.480]  all the time. Hang on, Randy Kelton, video, I call his number, 512-646-1984. We're talking
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[01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:29.840]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton at Eat Well Radio, and Debra Stevens there with us. We're
[01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:58.080]  in the background watching my every move to make sure I don't screw anything up. So
[01:19:58.080 --> 01:20:03.480]  I'm being real careful here. I haven't run off the cliff one time today. So we're talking
[01:20:03.480 --> 01:20:10.800]  to Mark. Okay, Mark, I did have a question. When the officer got kind of huffy puffy with
[01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:21.800]  you and he moved his hand toward his pistol, did you ask him if that pistol was loaded?
[01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:30.480]  I did not. I again failed, but I wasn't really looking to have that fight that day with the
[01:20:30.480 --> 01:20:42.040]  sheriff. I do this to them, and it has the effect of calming them down. I look down at
[01:20:42.040 --> 01:20:48.480]  that pistol and I see you're wearing a pistol there on your hip and you're moving your hand
[01:20:48.480 --> 01:20:54.560]  up toward that pistol. Tell me, is that pistol loaded? And that always tends to act as a
[01:20:54.560 --> 01:21:02.440]  pattern interruption. I've never met a police officer that had been asked that question
[01:21:02.440 --> 01:21:12.480]  before. And what they start doing is thinking, why is he asking me those particular questions
[01:21:12.480 --> 01:21:22.200]  in that particular way? This chop is setting me up and that has always come. There's two
[01:21:22.200 --> 01:21:30.800]  things I use to diffuse, or three things actually. That one, I always ask them if that pistol
[01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:37.240]  is loaded. They say, yes. Then I ask them, are you fixing to pull that pistol on me?
[01:21:37.240 --> 01:21:40.520]  And they'll generally say, well, not unless I have to. I'll say, okay, well, I was just
[01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:48.800]  wanting to find out. If I'm asking an officer to do something in particular and he won't
[01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:58.240]  do it, then I always ask him to take his chicken suit off. And the reason I do that is so that
[01:21:58.240 --> 01:22:07.760]  if he tries later to accuse me of being agitated, that screws that up. I'm always thinking what's
[01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:15.420]  going to sound good in front of a grand jury. And if I have an officer who is escalating
[01:22:15.420 --> 01:22:22.560]  and the loaded pistol thing don't work, then I tell him to relax and don't get yourself
[01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:34.160]  agitated. Agitated is their key word. He wants to say that you were agitated. When I ask
[01:22:34.160 --> 01:22:40.920]  him to take his chicken suit off, he can never say I was agitated again, because that screws
[01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:48.040]  that up. But then they get, when they get excited, if they arrest somebody and they
[01:22:48.040 --> 01:22:53.520]  say they were agitated, the court don't ask any more questions. That's enough. So do it
[01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:54.520]  to them.
[01:22:54.520 --> 01:23:08.160]  Yes, I did blow that. What are you stirring up down there? Oh, I'm stirring up all kinds
[01:23:08.160 --> 01:23:14.760]  of things. Ultimately, I've been, have I ever sent you the video of me whacking the hornet's
[01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:21.720]  nest with a stick? I should do that too. You should do that. Yeah, I should. I should.
[01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:27.560]  But I should warn you a friend of mine's son came over and he had whelps all over his face.
[01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:34.320]  And I said, Danny, what happened to you? Oh, this, you know, you can't squat yellow jackets
[01:23:34.320 --> 01:23:44.480]  with a broomstick. Danny, did you learn anything? Anyway, be careful with whacking that stick.
[01:23:44.480 --> 01:23:49.280]  You're hitting those hornets. Okay. What did you stir up?
[01:23:49.280 --> 01:23:57.040]  Well, I've been stirring up all kinds of things, notably a particular gentleman who I've been
[01:23:57.040 --> 01:24:02.960]  chasing through the court system for now years. He's ultimately going to get me my Boy Scout
[01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:11.320]  medal. Boy Scout medal in the form of actually I'm shooting for a fraud investigator certificate
[01:24:11.320 --> 01:24:16.840]  and certification. And he's, he's going to end up being the way in which I get this.
[01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:26.360]  But he went ahead and filed in the bankruptcy that he was worth under $50,000. And then
[01:24:26.360 --> 01:24:34.400]  after I asked a couple of questions, he suddenly said he was worth $600 million. And so his
[01:24:34.400 --> 01:24:43.040]  $600 million that he said he was worth plus a house, that ended up losing him the public
[01:24:43.040 --> 01:24:54.200]  defender in a criminal case. And this particular set of things messing around, he, he's been
[01:24:54.200 --> 01:25:02.360]  playing games with electronic devices and remotely bleeding them, bleeding the contents
[01:25:02.360 --> 01:25:11.640]  of them. It's been no end of fun. Ultimately, I'm setting up, setting up the lawyers involved
[01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:18.440]  and setting up the court system. Again, rid of mandamus kind of thing and a couple of
[01:25:18.440 --> 01:25:25.600]  other things I'll try, notably to get recordings being able to be done in these courtrooms
[01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:30.440]  and get those signs taken down that say we're going to confiscate your phone, we're going
[01:25:30.440 --> 01:25:35.840]  to confiscate the recording devices. Because now that we have these rules that say police
[01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:41.120]  can be recorded, I don't know why the courts can't have the same thing.
[01:25:41.120 --> 01:25:52.000]  I went to a JP and told him that I was going to record his courtroom. I said, well, can
[01:25:52.000 --> 01:26:01.320]  you show me the rule regulation or policy that forbids recording in the courtroom? Well,
[01:26:01.320 --> 01:26:04.560]  there isn't one. Oh, there's one. Then I'm going to record your courtroom. There will
[01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:11.000]  be no recording in my courtroom. It will disrupt the court. I turned to walk away and I stopped
[01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:19.000]  and turned back and said, well, if I recorded your courtroom without you knowing it, that
[01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:25.240]  wouldn't disrupt the court. There will be no recording in my courtroom. And then while
[01:26:25.240 --> 01:26:32.280]  he was having court, I went up and stood at the bar. He stared at me the whole time and
[01:26:32.280 --> 01:26:39.000]  never said a word. I think he was certain I was there recording him. Well, it wasn't
[01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:46.040]  until I said, I didn't care about the particular hearing, but it is one of the things that
[01:26:46.040 --> 01:26:48.600]  we need to really start taking on.
[01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:57.600]  Yeah, there are multiple things to take on. This gentleman has been the wonderful foil
[01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:06.640]  for me with his outrageous conduct. I was able to go ahead and in the bankruptcy, he
[01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:12.360]  went ahead and claimed the car that was seized was his when the paperwork from the state
[01:27:12.360 --> 01:27:18.800]  says it wasn't. He claimed a bunch of stuff was his when I was able to prove that it wasn't,
[01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:26.640]  et cetera, et cetera. His conduct has been so old. And in his criminal case, after he
[01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:33.320]  had to turn over assets to the bankruptcy court trustee, he then tried to bargain those
[01:27:33.320 --> 01:27:39.080]  assets to have the criminal case thrown out with one of the people who brought the charges
[01:27:39.080 --> 01:27:43.240]  that resulted in the criminal case happening.
[01:27:43.240 --> 01:27:49.560]  Interesting. This guy has just really accommodated.
[01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:56.840]  Oh, he has been. And he firmly believes that there's this grand conspiracy against him.
[01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:02.840]  And he's got this whole list of people who are causing him problems. And gosh, I've never
[01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:09.360]  made the list. I don't know what I need to do to make the list.
[01:28:09.360 --> 01:28:16.240]  You may be the one that he absolutely knows is causing him problems, instead of the ones
[01:28:16.240 --> 01:28:22.960]  he thinks is. Okay, keep us up to date, Mark, on what's going on here. It's been too long
[01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:26.560]  since you called in. You're always a lot of fun.
[01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:33.360]  Well, hopefully, you'll enjoy the email. And I intend to get that Hornet's Nest video
[01:28:33.360 --> 01:28:37.560]  trimmed down. And I'll send you a copy of that, too.
[01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:41.600]  Wonderful. Thank you, Mark. Adore him. Don't be a stranger.
[01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:43.600]  You bet. All right.
[01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:50.720]  Okay, now we're going to John in Texas. Hello, John. What do you have for us today?
[01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:52.360]  Can you hear me?
[01:28:52.360 --> 01:28:53.920]  I can hear you.
[01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:59.640]  Okay. I got big time problems. Big, big, big problems.
[01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:00.640]  Okay.
[01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:12.400]  Okay. I've talked to you several times. I have a bankruptcy that I did in 2014. I filed
[01:29:12.400 --> 01:29:26.800]  it to 31st of January, 2014. It was Chapter 13. About a month later, I converted to a
[01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:35.120]  seven. When I filed a bankruptcy, I stopped a foreclosure.
[01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:37.680]  Did you claim the property is unsecured?
[01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:38.680]  Yes.
[01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:39.680]  Good man.
[01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:40.680]  I'll file it.
[01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:46.480]  Hang on. Hang on. We're about to go to break. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens. We have a radio.
[01:29:46.480 --> 01:29:52.800]  I call it number 512-646-1984. Give us a call. We'll be taking calls all night. We'll be
[01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:53.800]  right back.
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[01:33:33.240 --> 01:34:03.080]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with the Logos Radio. Oh, and we're talking to Mark
[01:34:03.080 --> 01:34:08.520]  in Texas. Mark in Texas. Mark in Texas, I see you there. We're not talking to Mark
[01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:14.040]  in Texas. We're talking to John in Texas. We were talking about you on the break. Mark
[01:34:14.040 --> 01:34:21.480]  in Wisconsin was talking about mandamus, and I think he was speaking to you. So we'll get
[01:34:21.480 --> 01:34:25.600]  to you in a moment. Now we're talking to John. Go ahead, John.
[01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:26.600]  Okay.
[01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:41.720]  13-7, claim to property is unsecured. Yes. The note or the bond was $82,900. The month
[01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:51.240]  of January, the Bank of America and the trustees lowered the price of the bond to $32,500.
[01:34:51.240 --> 01:34:59.240]  Okay, you're saying bond. Are you referring to the cure amount?
[01:34:59.240 --> 01:35:07.440]  Investment. Okay. It was a promissory note. It was converted to, supposedly now, to an
[01:35:07.440 --> 01:35:11.880]  investment security, which was converted to a bond.
[01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:21.480]  Okay. Okay. So essentially what they're claiming is owed them.
[01:35:21.480 --> 01:35:32.160]  Yes. The Bank of America never filed any kind of a claim in the bankruptcy. Never objected.
[01:35:32.160 --> 01:35:39.000]  Nobody objected. Well, I had four people, but it was immaterial to this. On the 23rd
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.840]  of July, it was released. Couldn't have gone more perfect.
[01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.520]  So the debt was discharged?
[01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:49.520]  Yes.
[01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:50.520]  Wonderful.
[01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:58.640]  Okay. There's an attorney firm, and I'll use the word, their pronoun, because they may
[01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:07.560]  be listening. They're out of Dallas. They wrote me a letter, and they're coming after
[01:36:07.560 --> 01:36:11.480]  me for the full amount, the 80 to the nine.
[01:36:11.480 --> 01:36:24.520]  Okay. I think it's 11 U.S.C. 254.6. Do a search for the effect of bankruptcy discharge. You'll
[01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:33.120]  get a hit right on it. What it says, after discharge, they are absolutely forbidden to
[01:36:33.120 --> 01:36:39.680]  pursue any collection. Right there in the statute.
[01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:47.120]  That's right. You're very right, Randy. Okay. They filed that they were going to foreclose
[01:36:47.120 --> 01:36:55.960]  on me the second... Okay. Let me back up a minute. I reopened this closed bankruptcy
[01:36:55.960 --> 01:37:07.920]  in November of 2014, same for Thanksgiving. They went ahead. On the 2nd of December, the
[01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:16.800]  foreclosure day, I talked to Bank of America. They said, well, if we foreclose, we'll rescind
[01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:24.800]  it. And this was at 10 o'clock. It was scheduled to be sold at 1. So I talked to Bank of America.
[01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:31.360]  They said, I'll just go down there and talk to the trustee. I am the trustor. They are
[01:37:31.360 --> 01:37:37.440]  the trustees. The man I was going to talk to is going to sell it. Okay. We had an agreement,
[01:37:37.440 --> 01:37:43.680]  and I showed him a certified document that I'd filed for reopening. I gave him a copy
[01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:49.920]  of it. He said, I will pull it. I will not sell it.
[01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:55.000]  The next day, the 3rd of December, there's a man came by and said, when are you going
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:02.600]  to get out? So I found out he went ahead and sold it anyway. So wonderful. The trustee
[01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:13.600]  is immune from suit when he sells a property. So long as he acts in good faith, your notice
[01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:27.280]  to him eliminated the good faith exception. There's another part to it. The bond or let's
[01:38:27.280 --> 01:38:38.000]  just use the word promissory note. The promissory note is a forgery without question. Is the
[01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:46.920]  attorney firm or Bank of America forged it? The person's name that's on it has not been
[01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:51.160]  with the company, which is countywide, seven years prior to that.
[01:38:51.160 --> 01:38:56.760]  Okay. I have a question. I have a question concerning the forgery.
[01:38:56.760 --> 01:39:03.120]  Okay. Is the document which was apparently forged,
[01:39:03.120 --> 01:39:11.440]  okay, you're talking about the note itself. Yes.
[01:39:11.440 --> 01:39:18.680]  Are the provisions in the note substantially different than the provisions that were in
[01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:21.880]  the original? Without question.
[01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:31.200]  What I was going to say, if it wasn't, then while technically it's forgery, there's no
[01:39:31.200 --> 01:39:39.280]  harm. But if it's substantially different, that should be in the hands of the district
[01:39:39.280 --> 01:39:49.400]  attorney. Right. Okay. But see, this bond was supposed
[01:39:49.400 --> 01:40:01.360]  to be put into asset bank security. It was never put into it.
[01:40:01.360 --> 01:40:15.680]  Okay. But hold on. You may be making a mistake that Mark, who's on next, tended to be making.
[01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:24.720]  He was fighting a battle he didn't get to. Last time we talked to Mark, we suggested
[01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:29.760]  that he fought a challenge subject matter jurisdiction, and he's still considering
[01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:38.920]  all these other fights. And you need to figure which is your best fight right now and only
[01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:53.240]  take that one on. You have a discharge. There is no note. It's gone. So unless you want
[01:40:53.240 --> 01:41:03.920]  to presume criminally, you do not want to argue about that note because then you essentially
[01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:10.880]  reanimate it. It doesn't exist anymore. It's been discharged.
[01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:18.920]  There's a lot of people don't understand this, but there's a lot of taxes on the transfer
[01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:31.720]  taxes. There's a lot of money that's owed. Keep in mind $82,900. The attorney firm and
[01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:48.280]  Bank of America owe $4,638,388. How do you get to that number?
[01:41:48.280 --> 01:42:02.920]  I made 86 payments, $50,000, and then the first year, 2005, there's 115% penalty. 15%
[01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:12.640]  of $82,500 is $12,435. That's 15%. If they didn't correct that any time within the year
[01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:30.200]  of 2005, they owe another $12,435, which is 100% of that. That's $24,870 in 2005. Plus
[01:42:30.200 --> 01:42:32.160]  the payment- Okay, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're
[01:42:32.160 --> 01:42:44.600]  saying this. How do you establish that? Well, it's 86 Ds, the IRS. I mean-
[01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:54.760]  86 Ds, what is that? That qualifies the Remic, real estate investment
[01:42:54.760 --> 01:43:03.560]  trust or real estate conduit. It is a tax issue. You need to carry in mind making payments
[01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:08.960]  on the notes. Okay, so you're saying that they owe taxes
[01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:12.000]  in this amount or- That's correct.
[01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:19.000]  Wait, you said this was a penalty. Right. They didn't pay the transfer tax.
[01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:29.920]  Okay. Penalty fine fee. Finer fee goes to the agency involved. The penalty goes to the
[01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:38.520]  aggrieved party. So is this a fine that the IRS would levy? Hang on, we're about to go
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[01:46:23.320 --> 01:46:37.320]  Okay, we are back. Brenda Kelton, rule of law radio. And John, we've only got one segment
[01:46:37.320 --> 01:46:42.320]  left and we've got two more callers. Okay, I'll tell you what. I would like to examine
[01:46:42.320 --> 01:46:47.320]  this in more detail. Can you call me tomorrow night? Because I would like to kind of walk
[01:46:47.320 --> 01:46:55.320]  through this. Yeah, and something else. Keep this in mind. For an asset backed security,
[01:46:55.320 --> 01:47:04.320]  if it was never filed or transferred into that trust, attorneys are prohibited. They
[01:47:04.320 --> 01:47:09.320]  are known as disqualified persons. They fall under accountants and stuff. I've got all
[01:47:09.320 --> 01:47:16.320]  the case on that. Oh, wonderful. I definitely want to see that. So call in tomorrow night
[01:47:16.320 --> 01:47:27.320]  and one other thing, everybody's got a birth certificate on it. Now, I'll talk to you about
[01:47:27.320 --> 01:47:33.320]  a registered owner, need to file an affidavit of a registered ownership on your birth certificate
[01:47:33.320 --> 01:47:41.320]  so you own it. That's interesting. It's real interesting. I'll talk to you tomorrow night.
[01:47:41.320 --> 01:47:49.320]  Okay, thank you, John. Okay, now we're going to go to Mark in Texas. Did you hear Mark
[01:47:49.320 --> 01:47:57.320]  in Wisconsin? And the sad thing, Deborah was just telling me I didn't. And so if Mark in
[01:47:57.320 --> 01:48:01.320]  Wisconsin has some good information to share, whatever, you guys could share my contact
[01:48:01.320 --> 01:48:08.320]  info, I'd be happy to do it. And I'll certainly try to listen to your show. Send me an email
[01:48:08.320 --> 01:48:19.320]  and put Mark in Wisconsin in all caps and I will forward what he sends me to you. That
[01:48:19.320 --> 01:48:25.320]  would be fabulous. And feel free to put us together. If he's open to that, I'd be very
[01:48:25.320 --> 01:48:34.320]  pleased to do it. I'm sure he will be. His problem is he has way too much fun. Yeah.
[01:48:34.320 --> 01:48:42.320]  Okay, okay. Did you have a question for us or a comment? Oh, I tell you, right now you're
[01:48:42.320 --> 01:48:46.320]  about to wrap the show. I've gotten something great out of this evening. I'll call you tomorrow
[01:48:46.320 --> 01:48:50.320]  night and talk to you a little bit about where I am and ask for any advice you've got and
[01:48:50.320 --> 01:49:00.320]  that'll be work well done for me. Okay. Now you got me hanging in suspense. You'll be
[01:49:00.320 --> 01:49:06.320]  okay. Okay. Thank you, Mark. We'll talk to you tomorrow night. Okay. Okay. Now we're
[01:49:06.320 --> 01:49:13.320]  going to go to Roger in Arizona. Hello, Roger. Hello. Yeah, I'm representing myself in a
[01:49:13.320 --> 01:49:19.320]  civil suit in Superior Court. The heart of the matter is a breach of contract issue with
[01:49:19.320 --> 01:49:27.320]  the local community college and I just got permission to leave to amend the complaint
[01:49:27.320 --> 01:49:35.320]  and my recent motion for a preliminary injunction. I didn't quite know how I can find a cause
[01:49:35.320 --> 01:49:43.320]  of action for when the college police wouldn't let me attend a public meeting there. Okay.
[01:49:43.320 --> 01:49:49.320]  That's not a cause of action. That's a tort. Well, it's not exactly a cause of action.
[01:49:49.320 --> 01:49:57.320]  You have causes of action, you have torts. That's a tort. If you and I enter into some
[01:49:57.320 --> 01:50:05.320]  kind of agreement and I breach that agreement, you would make a claim against me under the
[01:50:05.320 --> 01:50:15.320]  sets of identified causes of action. But if we don't have a contract or an agreement and
[01:50:15.320 --> 01:50:21.320]  you interfere with me, say I'm driving down a road and you're operating a back hole for
[01:50:21.320 --> 01:50:30.320]  the city, then you stick the back hole stinger through my window. That's a tort. If I'm
[01:50:30.320 --> 01:50:38.320]  trying to go to a public meeting and I'm denied access to a public meeting, that's a
[01:50:38.320 --> 01:50:52.320]  tort. That's a due process tort. So look up due process. What state? Arizona. Okay. Let
[01:50:52.320 --> 01:50:57.320]  me stop and tell me more about what occurred and I can give you a better idea how to go
[01:50:57.320 --> 01:51:04.320]  at this. They didn't like what I wrote online and so they said that for safety reasons,
[01:51:04.320 --> 01:51:09.320]  they'd have to require that I get patted down before I could come in the meeting. I said
[01:51:09.320 --> 01:51:14.320]  I don't consent to searches and they said then you're going to have to leave. But I
[01:51:14.320 --> 01:51:19.320]  said things critical of certain people who are at the top in the school and they said
[01:51:19.320 --> 01:51:31.320]  well because he did that, we had to protect them. So were your comments threatening or
[01:51:31.320 --> 01:51:40.320]  just critical? Just critical. That's First Amendment. That makes it even better. Yeah
[01:51:40.320 --> 01:51:47.320]  well I also did put as a cause of action First Amendment retaliation. But see the school,
[01:51:47.320 --> 01:51:52.320]  it's been 29 months now. They won't let me finish my program. It's an online post bachelor
[01:51:52.320 --> 01:51:58.320]  program but they say I'm a danger to others. They even went so far as to put me in a mental
[01:51:58.320 --> 01:52:04.320]  ward for 12 days when I got before a judge. He released me immediately but they retaliate
[01:52:04.320 --> 01:52:12.320]  left and right there. Well have you sued them for false imprisonment? Okay how did they
[01:52:12.320 --> 01:52:21.320]  put you in a mental ward? Again they said anti-government paranoia from my online writing
[01:52:21.320 --> 01:52:29.320]  where I criticize the school and that was it in Arizona. No I wasn't asking what their
[01:52:29.320 --> 01:52:40.320]  alleged cause was. How did they go about it? Oh they referred me to the Tucson police department
[01:52:40.320 --> 01:52:48.320]  who has a mental health unit or something and they claimed that they tried to come to
[01:52:48.320 --> 01:52:56.320]  my house three different times when I was at work to ask me to be situated but when
[01:52:56.320 --> 01:53:05.320]  that never happened. What constitutes, what are their criteria to determine if someone
[01:53:05.320 --> 01:53:15.320]  is mentally unstable to the point that they would require being incarcerated, not I want
[01:53:15.320 --> 01:53:23.320]  to say incarcerated but committed for the purpose of a psyche evaluation? Well they
[01:53:23.320 --> 01:53:29.320]  have I think four different areas if you're a harm to yourself or a harm to others or
[01:53:29.320 --> 01:53:39.320]  abusing drugs or something like that. Okay what constitutes a harm to others in Arizona
[01:53:39.320 --> 01:53:48.320]  law? Well like I'm saying. Or more specifically what constitutes, what kind of evidence do
[01:53:48.320 --> 01:53:55.320]  they need to establish that you're a harm to others? All they went on was my writings
[01:53:55.320 --> 01:54:00.320]  online. Now what I'm saying is. And of course there's no threat that's why the judge
[01:54:00.320 --> 01:54:09.320]  released me. Okay listen, okay hold up. A psychiatrist cannot declare you incompetent.
[01:54:09.320 --> 01:54:16.320]  Only a judge can do that. That's why I was asking how did they go about this because
[01:54:16.320 --> 01:54:21.320]  only a judge can declare you incompetent. The psychiatrist or psychologist can testify
[01:54:21.320 --> 01:54:32.320]  before the court. Right that's for the hearing. Now anytime they try to do that for any psychiatrist
[01:54:32.320 --> 01:54:39.320]  or psychologist that wants to speak to you, you want a Daubert's hearing. Are you familiar
[01:54:39.320 --> 01:54:49.320]  with Daubert's hearing? No. D-A-U-B-E-R-T-S. A Daubert's hearing is a hearing for the purpose
[01:54:49.320 --> 01:54:58.320]  of testing the credentials of an expert witness. If a psychiatrist or psychologist who does
[01:54:58.320 --> 01:55:07.320]  evaluations for the city or county or state is forced into a Daubert's hearing and he
[01:55:07.320 --> 01:55:18.320]  loses the hearing, he will never get to act in that capacity for whatever entity. He won't
[01:55:18.320 --> 01:55:24.320]  get to act in that capacity at all. Yeah well in this case, you know, that's not my immediate
[01:55:24.320 --> 01:55:32.320]  issue and I don't think anybody would have found the psychiatrist incompetent. But I
[01:55:32.320 --> 01:55:39.320]  wanted to know how can I amend my complaint? No, no, no that's not it. Being called to
[01:55:39.320 --> 01:55:47.320]  a Daubert's hearing, that's playing Russian roulette with your career. That's very likely
[01:55:47.320 --> 01:55:54.320]  to make these guys run like rabbits. And it lets you know, you know, it's one thing to
[01:55:54.320 --> 01:56:00.320]  file a bar grievance, that's not a big deal for lawyers as far as the bar is concerned.
[01:56:00.320 --> 01:56:06.320]  It's a big deal for insurance but not the bar. But if you're a psychiatrist or a psychologist
[01:56:06.320 --> 01:56:15.320]  and you get a complaint against you, man the oversight agencies will land on you like a
[01:56:15.320 --> 01:56:21.320]  ton of bricks. I'll add to that because he sat down with me for about 15 minutes, got
[01:56:21.320 --> 01:56:28.320]  up and walked out. He was very prejudiced. He didn't take the time to evaluate me or
[01:56:28.320 --> 01:56:36.320]  anything. But the thing is sir, how can I amend my complaint to make it so I'm protecting
[01:56:36.320 --> 01:56:43.320]  myself so I have some, you know. This is a clear First Amendment violation. Public
[01:56:43.320 --> 01:56:54.320]  meeting. They're using critical communications as a reason to accuse you of being mentally
[01:56:54.320 --> 01:57:01.320]  unstable. And this is the reason I went to ask how they did it is because they have to
[01:57:01.320 --> 01:57:10.320]  establish this before court. What are the criteria? They always do. Okay and were the
[01:57:10.320 --> 01:57:17.320]  criteria met, if they were not, their pleading is frivolous and they're subject to not only
[01:57:17.320 --> 01:57:28.320]  suit personally but sanctions by the court. They need it taken to them. They need to find
[01:57:28.320 --> 01:57:34.320]  out how dangerous it is to take away somebody's liberty that way. How bad they can come back
[01:57:34.320 --> 01:57:40.320]  at them. We're going to run out of time here today. Can you call back tomorrow? In the
[01:57:40.320 --> 01:57:47.320]  meantime, do a little research on what it takes to declare someone a danger to someone
[01:57:47.320 --> 01:57:55.320]  else in law. And there's going to be a case law on that that tells the judge exactly what
[01:57:55.320 --> 01:58:02.320]  his criteria are. Okay, thank you Roger and we'll talk to you tomorrow night. We do a
[01:58:02.320 --> 01:58:08.320]  show tomorrow night so we'll have a lot more time. Alright. This is Randy Kelton here with
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