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[01:04.120 --> 01:09.480]  In the news, on Sunday, the Federal Aviation Administration outlined a proposal for regulations
[01:09.480 --> 01:13.800]  for commercial operators of unmanned aerial vehicles or drones.
[01:13.800 --> 01:18.960]  The proposal includes passing a knowledge test from the FAA, no nighttime flights, keeping
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[01:24.320 --> 01:28.280]  The FAA also attempted to satisfy critics who feared the drones could be used to invade
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[01:30.920 --> 01:34.720]  The agency proposed a review of privacy and civil rights protections before deploying
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[01:39.380 --> 01:44.280]  after 180 days.
[01:44.280 --> 01:49.240]  A federal judge has ruled in favor of the NSA and a lawsuit related to the agency's
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[01:52.080 --> 01:56.200]  The Electronic Frontier Foundation attempted to argue that the NSA's surveillance was
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[01:57.200 --> 02:01.240]  However, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White claimed the plaintiff was unable to prove
[02:01.240 --> 02:05.840]  they were specifically being targeted for surveillance, and thus could not sue.
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[06:14.520 --> 06:16.960]  or the government of the District of Columbia.
[06:16.960 --> 06:20.920]  Of course, for our purposes, one and two
[06:20.920 --> 06:24.820]  are the primary point of the discussion here.
[06:26.560 --> 06:30.020]  No one may hold a position in the U.S. government
[06:30.020 --> 06:33.120]  or the District of Columbia government
[06:33.120 --> 06:36.360]  if he, one, advocates the overthrow
[06:36.360 --> 06:39.200]  of our constitutional form of government.
[06:39.200 --> 06:44.200]  Well, let's discuss how that would work.
[06:46.680 --> 06:50.520]  Are you attempting to overthrow the federal Constitution
[06:50.520 --> 06:55.360]  if, as I assert, the federal Constitution doesn't exist,
[06:55.360 --> 06:58.720]  what does it matter, but if it still does,
[06:58.720 --> 07:02.640]  then how do you advocate its overthrow?
[07:02.640 --> 07:05.120]  Can you do that by saying get rid of it?
[07:05.120 --> 07:06.720]  Can it be that simple?
[07:06.720 --> 07:11.720]  Or do you do that if you advocate altering it
[07:12.000 --> 07:13.840]  through unlawful means?
[07:14.680 --> 07:17.760]  Do you do that by violating certain provisions
[07:17.760 --> 07:21.220]  within it repetitively as if they do not exist?
[07:21.220 --> 07:25.920]  What exactly constitutes advocating the overthrow?
[07:27.720 --> 07:30.440]  Because if the Constitution itself
[07:30.440 --> 07:33.280]  as the founding document for that government
[07:33.280 --> 07:37.360]  is being subverted, how is that foundation
[07:37.360 --> 07:40.160]  not going to result in the overthrow
[07:40.160 --> 07:42.740]  of the government created by it?
[07:45.080 --> 07:47.920]  So if you've got a federal representative up there
[07:47.920 --> 07:52.920]  putting into bill and law all these things
[07:53.160 --> 07:56.520]  that violate the Constitution,
[07:56.520 --> 08:00.200]  how are they not advocating the overthrow
[08:00.200 --> 08:04.000]  of a constitutional form of government at the federal level
[08:04.000 --> 08:05.520]  if one actually existed?
[08:07.480 --> 08:11.240]  Now, I don't know when this was actually passed
[08:11.240 --> 08:13.840]  and put into the US Code.
[08:13.840 --> 08:18.360]  It doesn't actually say that here on Cornell Law.
[08:18.360 --> 08:20.980]  Doesn't tell you when each of these went in.
[08:20.980 --> 08:24.040]  But let's see, this was actually passed
[08:24.040 --> 08:29.040]  in public law 113-234.
[08:29.040 --> 08:32.560]  And let's see if that tells us, nope,
[08:32.560 --> 08:34.560]  gives us no information whatsoever
[08:34.560 --> 08:37.920]  about when that was actually done either.
[08:37.920 --> 08:41.560]  So we don't know how long this has been in here.
[08:41.560 --> 08:43.440]  But we know it is in here.
[08:45.080 --> 08:48.300]  Now, regardless of how long it's been in here,
[08:48.300 --> 08:51.040]  it's in here right now and it's effective right now
[08:51.040 --> 08:52.840]  at least as far as being enacted.
[08:52.840 --> 08:55.280]  So why isn't anyone enforcing it?
[08:55.280 --> 09:00.120]  Why is it that the government that created
[09:00.120 --> 09:05.120]  the very law I'm reading here claims ignorance
[09:05.120 --> 09:08.280]  on enforcing this law against its own?
[09:09.280 --> 09:14.280]  Why are federal marshals or the local police agencies
[09:14.320 --> 09:19.320]  not enforcing this law against those people in DC
[09:19.600 --> 09:20.600]  that passed it?
[09:20.600 --> 09:25.420]  Because everything else they're doing certainly
[09:25.420 --> 09:29.460]  is violative of the Constitution as it exists.
[09:29.460 --> 09:33.200]  Oh, wait, I think I've had an epiphany.
[09:33.200 --> 09:35.580]  Could it be because the armed thugs
[09:35.580 --> 09:38.100]  that would do the enforcing knows very well
[09:38.100 --> 09:41.040]  their paychecks would end if they arrested the people
[09:41.040 --> 09:43.700]  that were breaking the rules that kept them employed?
[09:45.340 --> 09:48.180]  Is there any chance at all that would happen?
[09:48.180 --> 09:53.180]  I mean, how does the mob manage to keep its hired killers
[09:55.660 --> 09:59.700]  and thugs on the payroll if not by saying,
[09:59.700 --> 10:01.840]  hey, you got two options here.
[10:01.840 --> 10:03.780]  You work for us, you get well paid,
[10:03.780 --> 10:06.060]  you do what we need done, blah, blah, blah,
[10:06.060 --> 10:08.260]  and we protect you from the repercussions
[10:08.260 --> 10:11.020]  and such and such at least as much as we can.
[10:12.700 --> 10:17.700]  But if you try to leave, well, you lose the money
[10:17.700 --> 10:21.400]  and possibly depending upon what we know that you know,
[10:21.400 --> 10:24.160]  you may wind up taking a dirt nap somewhere.
[10:27.320 --> 10:28.700]  Is any of that possible?
[10:31.740 --> 10:36.740]  Why are human beings the only species on the whole planet
[10:37.120 --> 10:39.440]  that have to pay to live here?
[10:40.320 --> 10:41.700]  Can anyone answer that?
[10:41.700 --> 10:46.700]  We're all born on this earth, we're all here together,
[10:48.080 --> 10:51.840]  we could all work cooperatively to better humanity
[10:51.840 --> 10:53.800]  in general in so many ways,
[10:55.240 --> 10:58.120]  but we constantly have to pay somebody else
[10:58.120 --> 11:00.380]  something to live here.
[11:01.880 --> 11:06.880]  Now, granted people don't like to labor for nothing,
[11:07.320 --> 11:11.360]  all right, but at the same time,
[11:11.360 --> 11:16.360]  the concept of I live better when everyone else lives better
[11:18.200 --> 11:20.320]  tends to escape most people.
[11:22.200 --> 11:24.740]  I for one don't have a problem putting in a day's work
[11:24.740 --> 11:27.320]  to reap good benefits at the end of it.
[11:27.320 --> 11:30.220]  And those benefits don't have to be monetary in nature.
[11:31.540 --> 11:33.680]  I mean, look at how the Amish do it.
[11:33.680 --> 11:35.720]  The Amish don't spend every day
[11:35.720 --> 11:39.320]  dealing with only their own stuff, they help each other.
[11:39.320 --> 11:42.320]  They do barn raisings for each other.
[11:42.320 --> 11:46.120]  So they may spend an entire week putting together a barn
[11:46.120 --> 11:49.140]  for one of their neighbors, but they're being productive
[11:49.140 --> 11:51.080]  and nobody's asking to get paid for it.
[11:51.080 --> 11:53.560]  They just simply cooperatively work together
[11:53.560 --> 11:54.640]  to make it happen.
[11:56.320 --> 11:58.840]  No money changes hands.
[11:58.840 --> 12:01.000]  If anything has to be purchased,
[12:02.280 --> 12:04.860]  then maybe the community puts in the funds
[12:04.860 --> 12:07.800]  because of what they sell in their trade goods
[12:07.800 --> 12:10.480]  and their produce and so on and so forth,
[12:10.480 --> 12:12.160]  or they just simply make it.
[12:15.620 --> 12:18.640]  It's a cooperative way of living,
[12:18.640 --> 12:22.360]  which is the way I can imagine that the anarchy
[12:22.360 --> 12:25.520]  the government claims is so bad would actually work
[12:25.520 --> 12:27.420]  if the government didn't exist.
[12:28.640 --> 12:33.640]  Can you imagine that the Amish actually live in anarchy?
[12:33.640 --> 12:36.220]  Because the only form of government they have is,
[12:36.220 --> 12:38.100]  they're really just form of government.
[12:38.100 --> 12:42.140]  They do the things they believe the Bible expects them to do
[12:42.140 --> 12:45.500]  and how they expect it to be done and so on and so forth.
[12:45.500 --> 12:48.940]  But they don't need somebody telling them every single day
[12:48.940 --> 12:50.940]  what they have to do, how they have to do it,
[12:50.940 --> 12:53.340]  what codes they have to meet or anything else.
[12:55.540 --> 12:57.780]  They just simply do what needs to be done
[12:57.780 --> 12:59.620]  to make the things they need work
[12:59.620 --> 13:01.660]  so that they can live and be happy.
[13:01.660 --> 13:06.660]  And the rest of humanity and a lot of other people
[13:06.980 --> 13:08.580]  haven't figured that out yet.
[13:08.580 --> 13:10.180]  Everybody's rushing for something,
[13:10.180 --> 13:11.940]  everybody wants somebody to do it for them,
[13:11.940 --> 13:15.300]  but everybody is following these psychopaths
[13:15.300 --> 13:18.180]  that people the higher levels of the government
[13:18.180 --> 13:20.420]  and think that they have a right
[13:20.420 --> 13:24.940]  to dictate the life and property of everyone else.
[13:26.420 --> 13:27.260]  Why?
[13:28.540 --> 13:30.660]  Why do they have to do that?
[13:30.660 --> 13:35.580]  Why would you let someone do that to you?
[13:36.540 --> 13:38.740]  This is someone that doesn't know you,
[13:38.740 --> 13:40.340]  that doesn't know your needs,
[13:40.340 --> 13:43.020]  doesn't know a thing about how or where you live,
[13:43.020 --> 13:46.380]  what your problems are, yet they have all the solutions.
[13:46.380 --> 13:49.160]  All you gotta do is do exactly what they tell you.
[13:52.300 --> 13:55.180]  And of course, give them the money they want
[13:55.180 --> 13:56.860]  so they can fund it for you
[13:58.060 --> 14:00.480]  instead of you dedicating the money to it yourself
[14:00.480 --> 14:02.340]  if in fact money is required.
[14:04.100 --> 14:05.720]  What is wrong with us?
[14:06.860 --> 14:09.740]  Why do we spend all of our time believing
[14:09.740 --> 14:13.200]  that someone else must know better than us
[14:13.200 --> 14:16.700]  to such a degree that we will follow them blindly
[14:17.880 --> 14:21.880]  because they're on TV or they're in the newspaper
[14:21.880 --> 14:24.400]  or somebody else tells us we should?
[14:24.400 --> 14:29.400]  Americans don't think for themselves anymore, unfortunately.
[14:29.620 --> 14:33.620]  They just don't and that bothers me,
[14:33.620 --> 14:35.580]  a great deal that bothers me
[14:35.580 --> 14:37.940]  because I talk to people every day
[14:37.940 --> 14:40.780]  that ask me questions that for the life of me,
[14:40.780 --> 14:43.100]  I am sitting here pondering why that question
[14:43.100 --> 14:44.780]  had to be asked.
[14:44.780 --> 14:48.380]  I mean, to me, the answer to it is as plain
[14:48.380 --> 14:52.980]  as the nose on their face and it just narrows down
[14:52.980 --> 14:55.500]  and it just never occurred to them
[14:55.500 --> 14:57.380]  that the answer was right in front of them
[14:57.380 --> 15:00.000]  and I don't understand that.
[15:00.000 --> 15:03.460]  It's like they have not learned how to connect
[15:03.460 --> 15:05.820]  two separate thoughts together
[15:05.820 --> 15:08.900]  or steps in a process together
[15:08.900 --> 15:11.540]  or how to link information from this source
[15:11.540 --> 15:13.140]  and this source and this source
[15:13.140 --> 15:17.600]  into a single concept of oh, they work this way
[15:17.600 --> 15:19.120]  when you put them together.
[15:19.120 --> 15:21.560]  I don't know.
[15:24.560 --> 15:26.880]  I spend a lot of days just sitting here
[15:26.880 --> 15:31.880]  researching material, reading reports and news articles
[15:31.920 --> 15:34.800]  and things like that about police encounters
[15:34.800 --> 15:39.360]  and people's foreclosures and people's legal battles.
[15:39.360 --> 15:43.000]  I mean, right now, there is a case
[15:43.000 --> 15:47.000]  where an eighth grade boy is being tried
[15:47.000 --> 15:52.000]  or has been tried and convicted as a sex offender
[15:52.960 --> 15:55.560]  for having, that's an eighth grader,
[15:55.560 --> 16:00.360]  for having consensual sex with his seventh grade girlfriend.
[16:00.360 --> 16:04.000]  Okay, now these are junior high, folks, junior high, okay?
[16:05.080 --> 16:07.080]  And if you remember junior high like I do,
[16:07.080 --> 16:10.880]  this is not an uncommon thought pattern among young people
[16:10.880 --> 16:15.880]  but they actually have convicted the boy,
[16:17.740 --> 16:20.380]  not the girl, who also had the consent
[16:20.380 --> 16:22.960]  and neither of them is over the age to consent
[16:22.960 --> 16:26.260]  in the particular state they're in, neither of them.
[16:26.260 --> 16:29.740]  Yet he's getting tried and labeled as a sex offender
[16:29.740 --> 16:33.780]  because he's the boy and nothing goes on to her
[16:33.780 --> 16:36.940]  because she's the girl, so automatically she's the victim.
[16:36.940 --> 16:40.640]  But both of them consented.
[16:42.160 --> 16:45.040]  Now, do I want sex and people that young to go on?
[16:45.040 --> 16:46.800]  No, it's not really that smart
[16:46.800 --> 16:50.360]  but it's still human nature in a lot of ways to do it.
[16:51.400 --> 16:53.240]  But the fact is neither one of them
[16:53.240 --> 16:55.700]  should be charged with a crime.
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[19:35.560 --> 19:37.760]  That's the question.
[19:37.760 --> 19:39.560]  Look one again.
[19:39.560 --> 19:42.280]  And they don't have an answer.
[19:42.280 --> 19:44.320]  So they sleep and slide.
[19:44.320 --> 19:47.280]  They talk about issues, but we not how they want work.
[19:47.280 --> 19:48.960]  They make it easy.
[19:48.960 --> 19:51.000]  They might talk way too politically
[19:51.000 --> 19:54.120]  and then get in a den of envy.
[19:54.120 --> 19:56.600]  But they might stand up and fight and fight
[19:56.600 --> 19:59.040]  for the freedom and the freedom.
[19:59.040 --> 20:00.960]  And they like them love slavery
[20:00.960 --> 20:03.040]  and get hanged up for the government.
[20:03.040 --> 20:04.400]  Look one again.
[20:04.400 --> 20:12.840]  And they don't have an answer.
[20:12.840 --> 20:14.560]  All right, folks, we are back.
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[20:51.720 --> 20:53.360]  to keeping the network online.
[20:53.360 --> 20:55.640]  It's not like it's a salary to those of us
[20:55.640 --> 20:56.560]  that are doing the show.
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[21:08.520 --> 21:10.240]  the electric for it and all that stuff.
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[21:18.640 --> 21:20.000]  All right.
[21:20.000 --> 21:21.840]  Now, as I was saying before we went to break,
[21:21.840 --> 21:24.560]  I don't think that two adolescents like that,
[21:24.560 --> 21:27.640]  though I don't condone sex in people that age,
[21:27.640 --> 21:28.920]  that's still, like I said,
[21:28.920 --> 21:32.560]  something every junior high that I've ever known
[21:32.560 --> 21:34.040]  had its issues with.
[21:34.040 --> 21:37.080]  But nobody should be getting charged with a crime
[21:37.080 --> 21:39.640]  if it's consensual on both sides.
[21:39.640 --> 21:40.480]  Nobody.
[21:41.800 --> 21:44.880]  That's one thing when it's a 15 year span
[21:44.880 --> 21:48.600]  between an adult and somebody in the eighth grade
[21:48.600 --> 21:50.320]  or seventh grade or sixth grade,
[21:50.320 --> 21:51.920]  that's a whole nother matter.
[21:51.920 --> 21:55.160]  But when it comes to two kids, a grade apart
[21:55.160 --> 21:58.080]  and maybe less than a year apart,
[21:58.080 --> 22:00.000]  boyfriend and girlfriend,
[22:00.000 --> 22:02.280]  that should not be someplace for the state
[22:02.280 --> 22:04.480]  to be stepping in and trying to turn one of them
[22:04.480 --> 22:06.480]  into a lifelong criminal.
[22:06.480 --> 22:08.160]  That's just not right.
[22:08.160 --> 22:11.280]  How long are we gonna put up with this stuff, people?
[22:11.280 --> 22:13.840]  How long are we going to do this?
[22:15.320 --> 22:18.160]  This is getting totally ridiculous.
[22:18.160 --> 22:20.440]  You can't blow your nose in public
[22:20.440 --> 22:24.000]  without committing some offense somewhere.
[22:25.200 --> 22:27.280]  It is ridiculous.
[22:27.280 --> 22:29.080]  And yet here you've got a law that says
[22:29.080 --> 22:31.040]  everybody that's making these laws
[22:31.040 --> 22:33.680]  ought to not have an office to make them from.
[22:35.000 --> 22:36.000]  But here we are.
[22:37.400 --> 22:39.400]  We got all these laws on the books
[22:39.400 --> 22:42.040]  and all we do is get more laws on the books
[22:42.040 --> 22:44.000]  so that they can't enforce those any better
[22:44.000 --> 22:46.520]  than the ones they've already got.
[22:46.520 --> 22:50.160]  We need a lot less laws and a lot more common sense.
[22:50.160 --> 22:52.960]  That would work a whole lot better in my opinion,
[22:52.960 --> 22:55.120]  but hey, that is just me.
[22:55.120 --> 22:58.200]  All right, that being said, let's start taking calls.
[22:58.200 --> 23:01.560]  Right now I've got Colono in Hawaii.
[23:01.560 --> 23:03.280]  Colono, what can we do for you?
[23:05.280 --> 23:07.440]  Hey Eddie, how's it going?
[23:07.440 --> 23:08.600]  It's going great.
[23:08.600 --> 23:09.840]  Are you on the road?
[23:11.120 --> 23:16.120]  Well, I'm just in Oahu and I got my mail finally
[23:16.720 --> 23:19.840]  at Nan's house from the Third Circuit,
[23:19.840 --> 23:21.720]  court of the Third Circuit.
[23:21.720 --> 23:22.560]  Uh-huh.
[23:22.560 --> 23:24.120]  Remember I was telling you about that site
[23:24.120 --> 23:25.440]  and since that I never got.
[23:26.400 --> 23:27.240]  Right.
[23:27.240 --> 23:30.360]  Anyway, they sent me a couple of copies
[23:30.360 --> 23:32.760]  of the original citations
[23:32.760 --> 23:35.400]  and then a little bit of a letter saying,
[23:36.360 --> 23:41.360]  please remit your payment by such and such a date
[23:41.760 --> 23:44.520]  to this court and the address and stuff.
[23:44.520 --> 23:47.120]  And my thought there, and tell me if I'm wrong,
[23:47.120 --> 23:51.400]  that if I respond to this, then they can say, aha,
[23:51.400 --> 23:54.760]  aha, now it can prove you got served.
[23:54.760 --> 23:57.440]  Well, when did this actually take place originally,
[23:57.440 --> 23:59.840]  the offense they're saying you owe the money for?
[24:00.920 --> 24:02.560]  About three months ago.
[24:02.560 --> 24:03.400]  Okay.
[24:05.720 --> 24:08.600]  All right, so who did you contact
[24:08.600 --> 24:10.800]  to let them know you hadn't gotten anything?
[24:12.120 --> 24:14.120]  Well, I wrote a letter.
[24:14.120 --> 24:14.960]  Okay.
[24:14.960 --> 24:18.600]  And did that letter have an originating and return address?
[24:20.200 --> 24:21.040]  Yes.
[24:21.040 --> 24:22.320]  Is that where it went to?
[24:23.640 --> 24:25.840]  It went to the district court of the third.
[24:25.840 --> 24:26.680]  No, no, no, no.
[24:26.680 --> 24:28.320]  I'm not asking where you mailed it.
[24:28.320 --> 24:31.080]  I'm asking where the response you say you just got
[24:31.080 --> 24:32.440]  was mailed to.
[24:32.440 --> 24:34.240]  Was it mailed to the same address
[24:34.240 --> 24:37.720]  that you sent your information from?
[24:39.920 --> 24:44.400]  Yeah, well, I get all my mailed at this address
[24:44.400 --> 24:47.240]  in Oahu, not on the big island.
[24:47.240 --> 24:51.000]  Okay, that's still not answering my question.
[24:52.000 --> 24:56.680]  What you sent in, did it have a return address on it?
[24:57.840 --> 25:00.280]  No, I'm pretty sure it did,
[25:00.280 --> 25:02.920]  but I might've left it out on purpose.
[25:02.920 --> 25:04.120]  I don't know.
[25:04.120 --> 25:07.320]  You might've accidentally left it out on purpose.
[25:07.320 --> 25:10.000]  No, I might've just not put a return address,
[25:10.000 --> 25:12.080]  but I'm almost sure I did.
[25:12.080 --> 25:15.240]  Okay, if you weren't putting a return address on it,
[25:15.240 --> 25:18.680]  and you told them you didn't receive anything,
[25:19.720 --> 25:22.560]  how are you expecting them to respond to that?
[25:23.840 --> 25:26.520]  Well, like I said, I'm pretty sure I did put it
[25:26.520 --> 25:29.280]  because it's in the letterhead also.
[25:29.280 --> 25:33.920]  It's in my actual letter that I wrote.
[25:33.920 --> 25:35.920]  Okay, and is it the address
[25:35.920 --> 25:38.480]  that their response was mailed to?
[25:39.480 --> 25:40.640]  Right, it is.
[25:40.640 --> 25:43.640]  Then how are you gonna claim you didn't get it this time?
[25:43.640 --> 25:47.160]  They have something from you saying, this is my address,
[25:47.160 --> 25:48.560]  and they have something proving
[25:48.560 --> 25:50.640]  that's where they sent it, maybe,
[25:50.640 --> 25:52.400]  or at least they're gonna ask you to produce
[25:52.400 --> 25:54.960]  what you received if you ever received it,
[25:54.960 --> 25:56.680]  and so on and so forth.
[25:57.880 --> 26:00.680]  Well, the thing is, they can't ever say that.
[26:00.680 --> 26:03.000]  If they didn't send a certified mail, you're right.
[26:03.000 --> 26:04.760]  They can't say they didn't,
[26:04.760 --> 26:06.400]  or that they did it, and you got it.
[26:06.400 --> 26:07.720]  They can't say that.
[26:07.720 --> 26:09.920]  All they can say is, well, we mailed it to that address,
[26:09.920 --> 26:11.960]  and all you ever have to say is prove it.
[26:11.960 --> 26:13.680]  All they ever have to say is prove it.
[26:14.680 --> 26:15.520]  Right.
[26:18.040 --> 26:20.400]  So, that's what I mean.
[26:20.400 --> 26:24.280]  I, they can't prove that I got,
[26:24.280 --> 26:26.480]  it's not registered mail,
[26:26.480 --> 26:29.240]  so I never signed any mail to receive it,
[26:29.240 --> 26:30.640]  and it's not my address.
[26:30.640 --> 26:33.240]  If this were, somebody holds any mail
[26:33.240 --> 26:34.200]  that might come to me,
[26:34.200 --> 26:37.480]  because I don't have a mailbox at my house.
[26:37.480 --> 26:39.480]  Yeah, but if you keep reporting
[26:39.480 --> 26:40.840]  that you're not getting mail
[26:40.840 --> 26:42.840]  that someone is supposed to be holding for you,
[26:42.840 --> 26:44.960]  somebody's got a federal offense on their hands
[26:44.960 --> 26:46.520]  for tampering with the U.S. mail.
[26:46.520 --> 26:48.920]  Do you want to send that for that hack?
[26:48.920 --> 26:51.240]  Do you want to put that person in that position?
[26:52.160 --> 26:56.160]  No, it's, that's why I'm calling to see, you know,
[26:56.160 --> 26:57.600]  I'm going to, you know,
[26:58.760 --> 27:00.760]  should I go to the next step and say-
[27:00.760 --> 27:02.280]  Well, the question here is,
[27:02.280 --> 27:03.920]  is how well do you know the person
[27:03.920 --> 27:05.240]  that's receiving the mail?
[27:06.440 --> 27:08.520]  Oh, we're like, I'm-
[27:08.520 --> 27:10.120]  Don't tell me that detail.
[27:10.120 --> 27:12.000]  I just want to know if you know them well enough
[27:12.000 --> 27:13.640]  to say, look, don't.
[27:14.560 --> 27:18.480]  You can't ever tell that you've received this.
[27:18.480 --> 27:20.200]  Just say, you got mail in my name,
[27:20.200 --> 27:21.920]  but you never looked at it to see what it is,
[27:21.920 --> 27:24.200]  so you don't know if this was in there or not.
[27:25.200 --> 27:26.200]  Right.
[27:26.200 --> 27:29.240]  Okay, because if it ever is asserted
[27:29.240 --> 27:32.360]  that you were sent mail that you aren't getting,
[27:34.160 --> 27:35.320]  you see the problem?
[27:36.400 --> 27:38.760]  Well, I never, I'm never going to claim I never got it.
[27:38.760 --> 27:39.760]  I'm just going to say that.
[27:39.760 --> 27:41.160]  How can you prove I did?
[27:42.480 --> 27:44.440]  Yeah, but that's still the same thing
[27:44.440 --> 27:46.400]  in relation to the person holding it.
[27:47.840 --> 27:49.480]  Yeah, well, we're really close,
[27:49.480 --> 27:52.400]  and she knows about, you know,
[27:52.400 --> 27:55.080]  this whole thing about extortion and stuff.
[27:55.080 --> 27:57.000]  Yeah, but my point is,
[27:57.000 --> 27:59.200]  is the agency sending you this letter
[27:59.200 --> 28:00.840]  can go to the post office to say,
[28:00.840 --> 28:04.240]  hey, are you delivering mail to this address?
[28:04.240 --> 28:05.080]  Post office.
[28:05.080 --> 28:06.440]  Yes, we are.
[28:06.440 --> 28:08.000]  Oh, well then the person
[28:08.000 --> 28:10.440]  that's actually controlling the mail is interfering
[28:10.440 --> 28:12.680]  with its delivery to the other person
[28:12.680 --> 28:14.560]  they're holding it for.
[28:14.560 --> 28:15.680]  Federal offense.
[28:15.680 --> 28:17.080]  You see the problem here?
[28:19.280 --> 28:20.680]  That's going to be hard to, you know,
[28:20.680 --> 28:24.520]  mail deliverer carriers lose mail all the time.
[28:25.600 --> 28:27.720]  So I know that's a...
[28:27.720 --> 28:30.800]  Okay, I'm not saying that it will stick.
[28:30.800 --> 28:33.720]  I'm simply saying that they could make a problem with it.
[28:33.720 --> 28:38.720]  Yeah, so that's my next question is,
[28:39.640 --> 28:42.400]  now, if I do respond,
[28:42.400 --> 28:43.640]  which I'm planning to,
[28:43.640 --> 28:47.080]  because we can't have this going on in limo forever,
[28:47.080 --> 28:52.080]  but remember that HRS 286-207, subsection nine,
[28:53.720 --> 28:56.440]  where my automobile is exempt?
[28:56.440 --> 28:57.280]  Yes.
[28:58.560 --> 29:01.720]  So that's the Hawaii revised statute.
[29:01.720 --> 29:05.560]  I went to the police department where I live,
[29:05.560 --> 29:08.480]  and I talked to the officers right there.
[29:08.480 --> 29:09.840]  They looked it up,
[29:09.840 --> 29:12.440]  and they couldn't make heads or tails of what that meant.
[29:12.440 --> 29:15.280]  And I said, it's right there in black and white.
[29:15.280 --> 29:16.400]  I'm exempt.
[29:16.400 --> 29:19.320]  My automobile is not in commerce.
[29:19.320 --> 29:21.800]  So they said, well, we're still going to cite you
[29:21.800 --> 29:24.400]  if we pull you over and you got to go to court
[29:24.400 --> 29:25.320]  and take care of that.
[29:25.320 --> 29:27.800]  And the lieutenant wouldn't even come out and answer.
[29:27.800 --> 29:29.000]  Well, that's okay,
[29:29.000 --> 29:33.520]  because that becomes an issue of malicious prosecution.
[29:33.520 --> 29:37.640]  They were made aware, they had a duty to comply,
[29:37.640 --> 29:38.920]  and they did not,
[29:38.920 --> 29:42.120]  thus harming you at your liberty and your rights.
[29:42.120 --> 29:44.600]  That's a suit for malicious prosecution,
[29:44.600 --> 29:46.640]  false imprisonment or false arrest,
[29:46.640 --> 29:49.960]  whatever it constitutes in Hawaii, and blah, blah, blah.
[29:49.960 --> 29:51.200]  Hang on a second, come on on.
[29:51.200 --> 29:53.360]  We'll finish this up on the other side.
[29:53.360 --> 29:56.920]  All right, folks, 512-646-1984.
[29:56.920 --> 29:59.240]  We will be right back.
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[33:15.680 --> 33:43.680]  All right, folks, we are back.
[33:43.680 --> 33:47.680]  Rule of law radio calling number 512-646-1984.
[33:47.680 --> 33:50.680]  We are talking to Kalono in Hawaii.
[33:50.680 --> 33:53.680]  All right, Kalono, continue, please.
[33:53.680 --> 33:57.680]  Kalono in Hawaii, getting the mail in Honolulu.
[33:57.680 --> 34:04.680]  Anyway, my question to you is, now, I got this copy of this citation
[34:04.680 --> 34:11.680]  and another page that instructs me to submit this payment
[34:11.680 --> 34:19.680]  of $240 somewhat by March 14th and blah, blah, blah.
[34:19.680 --> 34:26.680]  So, you know, I intend to respond on that premise where I am exempt.
[34:26.680 --> 34:29.680]  My automobile is exempt.
[34:29.680 --> 34:30.680]  I didn't make that up.
[34:30.680 --> 34:34.680]  The Hawaii Revised Statute said so.
[34:34.680 --> 34:38.680]  Yeah, you can try sending certified written notice
[34:38.680 --> 34:43.680]  to your police departments and sheriff's offices and to,
[34:43.680 --> 34:46.680]  do they have county commissioners in Hawaii?
[34:46.680 --> 34:48.680]  They have county commissioners, right.
[34:48.680 --> 34:54.680]  Okay, then send it to them as well, as well as the municipal commissioners
[34:54.680 --> 35:02.680]  and let them all know, if you stop me, I will sue.
[35:02.680 --> 35:04.680]  That's a good idea.
[35:04.680 --> 35:08.680]  But yeah, I did go directly to the police station.
[35:08.680 --> 35:10.680]  They don't make policy.
[35:10.680 --> 35:12.680]  They just follow it.
[35:12.680 --> 35:17.680]  So what you need to do is make sure that you inform the powers that be over them
[35:17.680 --> 35:23.680]  that if your henchmen stop me in violation of law, I will sue.
[35:23.680 --> 35:24.680]  Right.
[35:24.680 --> 35:26.680]  They're only the witness, right.
[35:26.680 --> 35:34.680]  But it was fascinating to watch them responding to what they're not.
[35:34.680 --> 35:35.680]  They didn't know of this stuff.
[35:35.680 --> 35:37.680]  You know, to them, they're trained to...
[35:37.680 --> 35:39.680]  Well, they've never read it.
[35:39.680 --> 35:40.680]  Yeah, they never read it.
[35:40.680 --> 35:43.680]  And so when you read it, it was like, what?
[35:43.680 --> 35:47.680]  You mean to say that people can travel on the roadways without this stuff?
[35:47.680 --> 35:49.680]  And I said, yes, it's right there.
[35:49.680 --> 35:51.680]  So we had a pleasant conversation.
[35:51.680 --> 35:53.680]  It was really nice.
[35:53.680 --> 35:57.680]  And I left there, and yeah, I will do that.
[35:57.680 --> 36:07.680]  But the case at hand, what should I do with this letter telling me I must pay this money by this date?
[36:07.680 --> 36:11.680]  Is it for an offense under that statute?
[36:11.680 --> 36:14.680]  No.
[36:14.680 --> 36:19.680]  The infraction is expired registration.
[36:19.680 --> 36:25.680]  Yeah, but we're talking about the statute that says you don't have to have it, aren't we?
[36:25.680 --> 36:28.680]  Yeah, we're talking about that, so...
[36:28.680 --> 36:35.680]  Okay, so you can send them written notice that they shall produce evidence
[36:35.680 --> 36:45.680]  that your car is not one of those exempted by that statute or they will cease and desist or be sued.
[36:45.680 --> 36:54.680]  Okay, that's why I'm calling because I know I'm not going to pay this fine because this doesn't even apply to me, number one.
[36:54.680 --> 37:01.680]  And so I'm not going to play games with them and tell them you never served me this.
[37:01.680 --> 37:05.680]  That's just a roundabout thing because I'm exempt anyway.
[37:05.680 --> 37:08.680]  So I'm just going to take care of it.
[37:08.680 --> 37:15.680]  And I have, I'm recording this information so that I can go back and write those letters
[37:15.680 --> 37:20.680]  that you just said to who and who in the council and this and that.
[37:20.680 --> 37:23.680]  So I'll send those out and let them know.
[37:23.680 --> 37:28.680]  Yeah, as a matter of fact, you know, they just don't know about it.
[37:28.680 --> 37:31.680]  So they're going to learn about it.
[37:31.680 --> 37:34.680]  Well, I wouldn't say they don't know about it.
[37:34.680 --> 37:38.680]  I would say they're betting on you not knowing about it.
[37:38.680 --> 37:39.680]  Oh, yeah.
[37:39.680 --> 37:42.680]  That's ignorance is not bliss.
[37:42.680 --> 37:44.680]  So...
[37:44.680 --> 37:47.680]  Well, not if you're on our side of the fence.
[37:47.680 --> 37:48.680]  Yeah.
[37:48.680 --> 37:52.680]  So, but when I read that, I had a hard time believing.
[37:52.680 --> 37:54.680]  I looked it up and when I went...
[37:54.680 --> 37:55.680]  Well, wait a minute.
[37:55.680 --> 37:58.680]  What did you have me go tell you to look it up for if you weren't going to believe it?
[37:58.680 --> 37:59.680]  No, no.
[37:59.680 --> 38:02.680]  I wanted to confirm it's on their books.
[38:02.680 --> 38:03.680]  See?
[38:03.680 --> 38:07.680]  I watched that video that you sent us to watch.
[38:07.680 --> 38:08.680]  Yeah.
[38:08.680 --> 38:10.680]  That, you know, that was a good time.
[38:10.680 --> 38:14.680]  So I went with confidence to the police station.
[38:14.680 --> 38:18.680]  They opened up revised organization and they told them, I know it's boring.
[38:18.680 --> 38:22.680]  I never read that when I was patrolling because it's boring.
[38:22.680 --> 38:29.680]  But when the patrolman read it, he had a look on his face like, no way.
[38:29.680 --> 38:30.680]  You got to be kidding.
[38:30.680 --> 38:38.680]  So I said, you know, I wanted to see an actual revised ordinance right there in front of me
[38:38.680 --> 38:41.680]  because anything you get on the web, you're kind of taking a chance.
[38:41.680 --> 38:42.680]  Yes.
[38:42.680 --> 38:43.680]  But it's written right there.
[38:43.680 --> 38:45.680]  I read it right out of his book.
[38:45.680 --> 38:52.680]  So I wanted to make sure his books did exactly the same thing I was informed of.
[38:52.680 --> 38:53.680]  And it did.
[38:53.680 --> 38:56.680]  So I'm feeling quite confident now, but not...
[38:56.680 --> 38:59.680]  I'm not going to get cocky, but I'm quite confident.
[38:59.680 --> 39:05.680]  Yeah, I would get my hands on one of their books and keep it in my car.
[39:05.680 --> 39:07.680]  And if they pull me over for it, I'd let them know.
[39:07.680 --> 39:11.680]  I'd say, okay, here's your opportunity to walk away before you create a problem
[39:11.680 --> 39:13.680]  you cannot extricate yourself from.
[39:13.680 --> 39:16.680]  Hey, good, good.
[39:16.680 --> 39:18.680]  That's a good defense.
[39:18.680 --> 39:19.680]  Yeah.
[39:19.680 --> 39:23.680]  Because anybody can buy a revised ordinance and a revised statute.
[39:23.680 --> 39:24.680]  Exactly.
[39:24.680 --> 39:30.680]  And, you know, they must carry it everywhere they go, but I'm not going to count on them having it.
[39:30.680 --> 39:34.680]  Well, see, I used to keep a full-blown version of the Transportation Code book,
[39:34.680 --> 39:41.680]  the published book in my car, along with the field book that cops carry in their car,
[39:41.680 --> 39:47.680]  which is always a very abbreviated version or portion of the statute,
[39:47.680 --> 39:51.680]  but it's never the whole thing and it's never in the exact wording.
[39:51.680 --> 39:54.680]  It's a summarized wording.
[39:54.680 --> 39:58.680]  So it isn't even the actual statute.
[39:58.680 --> 40:02.680]  So I could take it and say, okay, here's what your book is telling you to do,
[40:02.680 --> 40:04.680]  but here's what the statute says.
[40:04.680 --> 40:09.680]  Your book is not telling you everything and you better make a choice right here
[40:09.680 --> 40:14.680]  because this is not going to work out in the long run like you think it is.
[40:14.680 --> 40:23.680]  Now, at what point in my script do I enter that?
[40:23.680 --> 40:26.680]  You're talking about during the stop?
[40:26.680 --> 40:27.680]  Yeah.
[40:27.680 --> 40:32.680]  If he even begins to mention registration or anything associated with it,
[40:32.680 --> 40:35.680]  that's when you bring it up for sure.
[40:35.680 --> 40:37.680]  So right in the beginning then.
[40:37.680 --> 40:40.680]  If that's why it says he stopped you, yes.
[40:40.680 --> 40:41.680]  Yeah.
[40:41.680 --> 40:45.680]  Don't call his attention to something until he starts it.
[40:45.680 --> 40:49.680]  If he writes it on the citation without ever saying a word, just say, excuse me,
[40:49.680 --> 40:55.680]  officer, are you actually attempting to charge me with not having my car registered?
[40:55.680 --> 40:56.680]  Well, yeah.
[40:56.680 --> 40:59.680]  Then I recommend you read this statute right here and give him a copy,
[40:59.680 --> 41:02.680]  give him the book and say, look, read this right here.
[41:02.680 --> 41:06.680]  This car is not required to be registered.
[41:06.680 --> 41:12.680]  So if you continue to do this, then I've got a malicious prosecution issue here
[41:12.680 --> 41:15.680]  that we're going to have to deal with.
[41:15.680 --> 41:16.680]  Amen.
[41:16.680 --> 41:21.680]  And say it kindly, say it nicely so it's not a threat like you're trying to tell him his job
[41:21.680 --> 41:24.680]  to say, look, I believe you've got a misunderstanding going on here.
[41:24.680 --> 41:28.680]  Now, normally one of the things I tell people, do not attempt to educate the cop
[41:28.680 --> 41:30.680]  on the side of the road.
[41:30.680 --> 41:32.680]  The major difference in this, folks, is this.
[41:32.680 --> 41:37.680]  The Hawaii statute is extremely explicit and clear, extremely.
[41:37.680 --> 41:44.680]  It's very hard to do what these cops are trying to do and say, I don't know what that means.
[41:44.680 --> 41:49.680]  There's no way they can claim that and be considered even reasonably intelligent.
[41:49.680 --> 41:55.680]  Whereas most other places, the statutes are written to be deceptive,
[41:55.680 --> 42:02.680]  and you trying to teach the cop what those words really mean in conjunction with how it applies
[42:02.680 --> 42:08.680]  is going to get you in over your head because most people can't do it.
[42:08.680 --> 42:12.680]  That's the difference between educating the cop and just giving him the information
[42:12.680 --> 42:18.680]  that he should already have in black and white right in front of him but doesn't.
[42:18.680 --> 42:19.680]  Right.
[42:19.680 --> 42:24.680]  Because, you know, I know how it is because I was on that side of the fence, as were you.
[42:24.680 --> 42:29.680]  And so I would never get arrogant with, and they're pretty cool guys in Hawaii.
[42:29.680 --> 42:30.680]  They're really laid back here.
[42:30.680 --> 42:33.680]  However, they just don't know any better.
[42:33.680 --> 42:36.680]  So I'll use that advice.
[42:36.680 --> 42:39.680]  And now one more question.
[42:39.680 --> 42:47.680]  I hate to hog all your time, people waiting, but if and when I do turn commercial, if and when,
[42:47.680 --> 42:51.680]  because that's part of my business, bringing visitors to Hawaii.
[42:51.680 --> 42:59.680]  So if and when I do use my van in commerce and I want to register at that time,
[42:59.680 --> 43:04.680]  they might go back and say, I got a paper all those years that it wasn't.
[43:04.680 --> 43:05.680]  No.
[43:05.680 --> 43:06.680]  How do we?
[43:06.680 --> 43:10.680]  It was never used at that time for that purpose.
[43:10.680 --> 43:15.680]  Is there a statute that allows them to backdate it for that?
[43:15.680 --> 43:20.680]  They can only backdate it if it was used those previous years for that purpose.
[43:20.680 --> 43:22.680]  It wasn't.
[43:22.680 --> 43:23.680]  Yeah.
[43:23.680 --> 43:24.680]  Okay.
[43:24.680 --> 43:25.680]  That's right.
[43:25.680 --> 43:28.680]  Because I know they're going to try to make me pay for all of that registration.
[43:28.680 --> 43:29.680]  Well, now how would they do that?
[43:29.680 --> 43:34.680]  How would you ever be able to sell a car capable of doing that thing to anybody
[43:34.680 --> 43:40.680]  if the moment they registered that they had to pay 10 times as much as it ought to cost because of it?
[43:40.680 --> 43:42.680]  That wouldn't work.
[43:42.680 --> 43:43.680]  Hang on just a second, Colonel.
[43:43.680 --> 43:46.680]  We've got another break and then we'll have to pick up somebody else.
[43:46.680 --> 43:48.680]  But hang on and I'll get you when we get back, okay?
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[46:45.680 --> 46:48.680]  All right, Colonel, let's wrap this up.
[46:48.680 --> 46:55.680]  Okay, so I will respond to this notice and not send any money, of course,
[46:55.680 --> 47:02.680]  and let them know and I make sense there and then we'll see how that goes.
[47:02.680 --> 47:03.680]  Okay.
[47:03.680 --> 47:05.680]  So thank you once again.
[47:05.680 --> 47:10.680]  I never knew a lot of...that's why you're you and we're learning, right?
[47:10.680 --> 47:11.680]  So...
[47:11.680 --> 47:16.680]  I hope that's the reason that I'm doing something beneficial and useful.
[47:16.680 --> 47:17.680]  Yeah.
[47:17.680 --> 47:20.680]  Well, I am so happy to be able to...it makes sense.
[47:20.680 --> 47:26.680]  Nobody has the right to tell somebody what they can and cannot do on their ruling.
[47:26.680 --> 47:35.680]  So that being said, I'll just keep in touch and good luck in the future
[47:35.680 --> 47:40.680]  and I'll be sending in some more contributions as I can, as I may.
[47:40.680 --> 47:43.680]  I appreciate that and so does the network.
[47:43.680 --> 47:44.680]  We can do this.
[47:44.680 --> 47:45.680]  All right.
[47:45.680 --> 47:46.680]  All right.
[47:46.680 --> 47:47.680]  I agree.
[47:47.680 --> 47:53.680]  Let's get her done to quote a famous comedian of an unknown redneck type.
[47:53.680 --> 47:54.680]  Aloha.
[47:54.680 --> 47:56.680]  You have a good night.
[47:56.680 --> 47:57.680]  All right.
[47:57.680 --> 48:01.680]  Now we're going to go to another Eddie in Texas.
[48:01.680 --> 48:02.680]  Let's see.
[48:02.680 --> 48:05.680]  Eddie, what can we do for you?
[48:05.680 --> 48:06.680]  Yeah.
[48:06.680 --> 48:08.680]  Eddie, my name is Eddie Duncan.
[48:08.680 --> 48:14.680]  I talked with you last week about a no driver's license ticket registration
[48:14.680 --> 48:19.680]  and a speeding can out over for the speed limit for a similar truck
[48:19.680 --> 48:21.680]  and they're trying to apply it to a car.
[48:21.680 --> 48:25.680]  Anyway, I mentioned that my right to travel were by grounds
[48:25.680 --> 48:27.680]  and you said that's incorrect.
[48:27.680 --> 48:29.680]  What grounds do I assert?
[48:29.680 --> 48:31.680]  Okay.
[48:31.680 --> 48:36.680]  You're asking me to teach you an entire year's worth of information in five minutes.
[48:36.680 --> 48:39.680]  That's not going to happen.
[48:39.680 --> 48:43.680]  What did you provide the officer at the time of the stop?
[48:43.680 --> 48:44.680]  Nothing.
[48:44.680 --> 48:45.680]  I have no license.
[48:45.680 --> 48:49.680]  I filed a constructive legal notice 12 years ago that I'm a sovereign
[48:49.680 --> 48:51.680]  and it's been on public record.
[48:51.680 --> 48:52.680]  Okay.
[48:52.680 --> 48:53.680]  All right.
[48:53.680 --> 48:58.680]  Tell me what the definition of sovereign is.
[48:58.680 --> 49:00.680]  One who reigns.
[49:00.680 --> 49:05.680]  And what does that mean?
[49:05.680 --> 49:10.680]  And by the way, where did you get that definition?
[49:10.680 --> 49:12.680]  Well, sovereign, one who reigns.
[49:12.680 --> 49:14.680]  No, no.
[49:14.680 --> 49:16.680]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, stop.
[49:16.680 --> 49:19.680]  Not at all the answer to the question I asked you.
[49:19.680 --> 49:25.680]  I asked you where you got the definition, not what the definition was again.
[49:25.680 --> 49:28.680]  Where did you get it?
[49:28.680 --> 49:31.680]  From the book American Sovereign by Brent Johnson.
[49:31.680 --> 49:37.680]  Is Brent Johnson responsible for defining words in the English language?
[49:37.680 --> 49:38.680]  No.
[49:38.680 --> 49:42.680]  Then how the hell does his definition apply here?
[49:42.680 --> 49:48.680]  What is the commonly understood meaning, whether it be legal
[49:48.680 --> 49:56.680]  or common language usage of sovereign?
[49:56.680 --> 49:58.680]  Ruler.
[49:58.680 --> 49:59.680]  No.
[49:59.680 --> 50:01.680]  What an authority.
[50:01.680 --> 50:04.680]  Again, close but no cigar.
[50:04.680 --> 50:12.680]  A sovereign by definition is one with the power to make and subject others to his law.
[50:12.680 --> 50:15.680]  Do you have that power?
[50:15.680 --> 50:16.680]  No.
[50:16.680 --> 50:20.680]  Then you, my friend, are not a sovereign.
[50:20.680 --> 50:21.680]  Wow.
[50:21.680 --> 50:25.680]  The closest you are is a sovereign without subject.
[50:25.680 --> 50:30.680]  In other words, you can only make the law that applies to you
[50:30.680 --> 50:35.680]  and to those beneath you but no one else.
[50:35.680 --> 50:39.680]  That's what a sovereign is.
[50:39.680 --> 50:41.680]  Okay?
[50:41.680 --> 50:42.680]  Mm-hmm.
[50:42.680 --> 50:44.680]  Do you believe in God?
[50:44.680 --> 50:45.680]  Yes.
[50:45.680 --> 50:51.680]  Then how can you be sovereign and he be sovereign at the same time?
[50:51.680 --> 50:52.680]  Good point.
[50:52.680 --> 50:54.680]  Okay.
[50:54.680 --> 51:00.680]  This is my issue with people using words they don't understand.
[51:00.680 --> 51:02.680]  Whoever wrote this book you're talking about,
[51:02.680 --> 51:05.680]  obviously has never bothered to read a dictionary.
[51:05.680 --> 51:09.680]  So that's your first caveat on the rest of the information in the book.
[51:09.680 --> 51:10.680]  Okay?
[51:10.680 --> 51:11.680]  Okay.
[51:11.680 --> 51:15.680]  The issue here is not whether or not you've declared yourself sovereign.
[51:15.680 --> 51:18.680]  The issue here is are you engaged in an activity
[51:18.680 --> 51:22.680]  over which we the people gave the government the authority to regulate?
[51:22.680 --> 51:24.680]  That's the only issue here.
[51:24.680 --> 51:25.680]  Not.
[51:25.680 --> 51:27.680]  Well, of course you're not.
[51:27.680 --> 51:28.680]  Okay?
[51:28.680 --> 51:29.680]  You're not.
[51:29.680 --> 51:33.680]  But that's a whole different argument than the one you're pursuing, isn't it?
[51:33.680 --> 51:34.680]  Okay, yes.
[51:34.680 --> 51:39.680]  Tell me how, and I think this was something I tried to get in last time,
[51:39.680 --> 51:41.680]  but we ran out of time on it before we could finish.
[51:41.680 --> 51:42.680]  Right.
[51:42.680 --> 51:51.680]  I asked you, does a commercial truck driver have the right to travel?
[51:51.680 --> 51:54.680]  I would assume yes.
[51:54.680 --> 51:55.680]  Okay.
[51:55.680 --> 52:00.680]  Now if a commercial truck driver has the right to travel,
[52:00.680 --> 52:06.680]  just like you who are not a commercial truck driver has the right to travel,
[52:06.680 --> 52:12.680]  how then is the right to travel argument a defense against
[52:12.680 --> 52:16.680]  because you're a truck driver driving a truck for money,
[52:16.680 --> 52:19.680]  you broke this rule and now you owe us money?
[52:19.680 --> 52:23.680]  How does one respond to the other?
[52:23.680 --> 52:27.680]  Because if he is acting as a truck driver under the license,
[52:27.680 --> 52:30.680]  he is not exercising his right to travel.
[52:30.680 --> 52:35.680]  He is exercising his privilege to engage in commerce on the highways.
[52:35.680 --> 52:36.680]  Agreed.
[52:36.680 --> 52:40.680]  So one is not a defense to the other, is it?
[52:40.680 --> 52:44.680]  Well, if he's off the clock and he's not being...
[52:44.680 --> 52:48.680]  Then that is not, that's changing the circumstances I just gave you.
[52:48.680 --> 52:54.680]  I just told you if he is acting as a truck driver on the highway,
[52:54.680 --> 52:58.680]  he is engaged in transportation, right?
[52:58.680 --> 52:59.680]  Right.
[52:59.680 --> 53:06.680]  So the right to travel is not a defense if he is voluntarily engaged in transportation, is it?
[53:06.680 --> 53:07.680]  Right.
[53:07.680 --> 53:08.680]  Well, that's true.
[53:08.680 --> 53:09.680]  Okay.
[53:09.680 --> 53:11.680]  I'm not a licensed driver.
[53:11.680 --> 53:12.680]  Okay.
[53:12.680 --> 53:13.680]  Wait.
[53:13.680 --> 53:16.680]  Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
[53:16.680 --> 53:22.680]  It doesn't matter that you're not a licensed driver from the perspective of the defense.
[53:22.680 --> 53:24.680]  Here is why.
[53:24.680 --> 53:25.680]  Okay.
[53:25.680 --> 53:33.680]  Even though you are not acting in a commercial capacity, you have been charged as if you were.
[53:33.680 --> 53:34.680]  Right.
[53:34.680 --> 53:35.680]  Okay?
[53:35.680 --> 53:46.680]  In law, the correct argument to any accusation is not a different argument.
[53:46.680 --> 53:48.680]  You got it?
[53:48.680 --> 53:49.680]  Right.
[53:49.680 --> 53:54.680]  It is an opposing argument to the one being made.
[53:54.680 --> 53:58.680]  They're arguing transportation.
[53:58.680 --> 54:02.680]  Your defense is not transportation.
[54:02.680 --> 54:03.680]  Right.
[54:03.680 --> 54:05.680]  It is not right to travel.
[54:05.680 --> 54:09.680]  It is not transportation.
[54:09.680 --> 54:10.680]  Okay.
[54:10.680 --> 54:13.680]  It's an inverse argument.
[54:13.680 --> 54:14.680]  Okay?
[54:14.680 --> 54:19.680]  You turn their positive into an equal and opposite negative.
[54:19.680 --> 54:22.680]  Anything else is not relevant to their positive.
[54:22.680 --> 54:24.680]  Do you follow?
[54:24.680 --> 54:26.680]  Yeah.
[54:26.680 --> 54:31.680]  So that's why all this stuff you're talking about has absolutely no effect when you go to court.
[54:31.680 --> 54:37.680]  It doesn't mean doodly squat because it does not address the issue before the court, does it?
[54:37.680 --> 54:38.680]  Right.
[54:38.680 --> 54:48.680]  So when he says you violated transportation code so-and-so for not registering your car,
[54:48.680 --> 54:59.680]  I would cite 502.003 saying, like the previous argument, you're prohibited from making me register my car.
[54:59.680 --> 55:02.680]  Well, they're not saying that they're making you register it.
[55:02.680 --> 55:07.680]  They're enforcing a state statute that they presume says you must.
[55:07.680 --> 55:09.680]  There's a difference there.
[55:09.680 --> 55:17.680]  But there's also a statute, previous 502.003, Texas transportation code,
[55:17.680 --> 55:24.680]  that says the municipality is prohibited from making you register a private car, a motor vehicle.
[55:24.680 --> 55:32.680]  That is correct, but they're not trying to make you register it.
[55:32.680 --> 55:33.680]  Okay?
[55:33.680 --> 55:36.680]  Citing me for failing to register it.
[55:36.680 --> 55:44.680]  That's true because there's a state law or state statute that they're arguing tells them they must.
[55:44.680 --> 55:53.680]  The difference is is the municipality can't make you register it with them as well as the state.
[55:53.680 --> 55:55.680]  You have to understand that's what the statute means.
[55:55.680 --> 55:58.680]  They can't compel you to go register it.
[55:58.680 --> 56:02.680]  That means if it's parked, they can't make you go register it.
[56:02.680 --> 56:11.680]  So they can't create an ordinance that says register it or we will tow it because that violates that section of the state law or the state statute.
[56:11.680 --> 56:12.680]  Right.
[56:12.680 --> 56:13.680]  Okay?
[56:13.680 --> 56:22.680]  But the state says if you're moving down the road on it and it's a motor vehicle, then it's required to be registered.
[56:22.680 --> 56:32.680]  So the issue is, is it being used as a motor vehicle for the purpose of engaging in transportation?
[56:32.680 --> 56:34.680]  That's the issue.
[56:34.680 --> 56:37.680]  Okay.
[56:37.680 --> 56:38.680]  That's what they're asserting.
[56:38.680 --> 56:40.680]  The answer to that question is yes.
[56:40.680 --> 56:44.680]  What you are asserting is the answer to that question is no.
[56:44.680 --> 56:47.680]  Same question, opposing answers.
[56:47.680 --> 56:48.680]  Got it?
[56:48.680 --> 57:02.680]  Yes, so all you do is, Officer Brooks, did you establish that I was using that conveyance in commerce, that I was actually getting paid for an activity while driving?
[57:02.680 --> 57:03.680]  Kind of.
[57:03.680 --> 57:04.680]  Kind of.
[57:04.680 --> 57:11.680]  You need to go download the cross-examination script off of the website and give that a good read.
[57:11.680 --> 57:14.680]  That will help you figure out what you need to be saying and doing.
[57:14.680 --> 57:17.680]  Remember, it's a practice script.
[57:17.680 --> 57:25.680]  It's not set in stone, but it will give you a good idea of the things you need to get them to admit to in a court of record.
[57:25.680 --> 57:28.680]  Okay.
[57:28.680 --> 57:29.680]  Well, that sounds good.
[57:29.680 --> 57:30.680]  It sounds fine, Eddie.
[57:30.680 --> 57:32.680]  Okay.
[57:32.680 --> 57:35.680]  I think I already have it, actually.
[57:35.680 --> 57:40.680]  Okay, then read it, because what you keep going over here tells me you haven't read it.
[57:40.680 --> 57:42.680]  You may have it, but you're not reading it.
[57:42.680 --> 57:50.680]  Now, remember, there is a transportation stop script, and then there is a cross-examination script.
[57:50.680 --> 57:51.680]  They're not the same thing.
[57:51.680 --> 57:53.680]  Transportation stop script.
[57:53.680 --> 57:54.680]  I have that one.
[57:54.680 --> 57:57.680]  Yeah, you need the other one, the cross-examination script.
[57:57.680 --> 57:59.680]  Okay, I'll get it.
[57:59.680 --> 58:04.680]  Okay, you should be able to get it from the same place if you downloaded it from the website.
[58:04.680 --> 58:07.680]  All right, Eddie, I appreciate your help.
[58:07.680 --> 58:08.680]  Yes, sir, you're welcome.
[58:08.680 --> 58:13.680]  Let me talk about it. I have written a book, Off-Broad Americans.
[58:13.680 --> 58:16.680]  Okay, well, you're going to have to hang on just a minute.
[58:16.680 --> 58:18.680]  We're about to go to break, okay?
[58:18.680 --> 58:20.680]  Okay, Eddie, thank you.
[58:20.680 --> 58:21.680]  You're welcome.
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[01:03:00.680 --> 01:03:23.680]  This all according to the will of the Almighty. I read his book and it says,
[01:03:23.680 --> 01:03:36.680]  All right, folks, we are back.
[01:03:36.680 --> 01:03:41.680]  This is Rule of Law Radio calling number 512-646-1984.
[01:03:41.680 --> 01:03:46.680]  And I guess we lost Eddie there over the break.
[01:03:46.680 --> 01:03:51.680]  So let's go to Steve in Texas. Steve, what can we do for you?
[01:03:51.680 --> 01:03:55.680]  Yeah, I'm calling in reference to what you were talking about
[01:03:55.680 --> 01:04:00.680]  when you first came on the air, 5-US-D-7311.
[01:04:00.680 --> 01:04:01.680]  Yes.
[01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:04.680]  Loyalty and striking. So I looked it up.
[01:04:04.680 --> 01:04:10.680]  It's in the U.S. statute at large in volume 80, page 524.
[01:04:10.680 --> 01:04:15.680]  It's part of public law 89-554.
[01:04:15.680 --> 01:04:22.680]  It was passed on September 6, 1966.
[01:04:22.680 --> 01:04:23.680]  Well, there you go.
[01:04:23.680 --> 01:04:24.680]  Been on the books for a while.
[01:04:24.680 --> 01:04:30.680]  Long enough to be throwing everybody on Capitol Hill under the prison.
[01:04:30.680 --> 01:04:35.680]  Yeah, I never heard of it before, but I looked it up while I was listening.
[01:04:35.680 --> 01:04:36.680]  So that's all I had to add.
[01:04:36.680 --> 01:04:39.680]  All right. Well, I appreciate you doing that and calling in and letting us know.
[01:04:39.680 --> 01:04:41.680]  Thank you very much.
[01:04:41.680 --> 01:04:42.680]  OK, thank you.
[01:04:42.680 --> 01:04:43.680]  Yes, sir.
[01:04:43.680 --> 01:04:45.680]  All right. I got one caller left.
[01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:46.680]  That's Truth Raider.
[01:04:46.680 --> 01:04:51.680]  And I need some more callers, 512-646-1984.
[01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:54.680]  All right, Raider, you what I got. Let's go.
[01:04:54.680 --> 01:04:57.680]  Hey, Eddie. Hey.
[01:04:57.680 --> 01:05:00.680]  I raise up my glasses against evil forces.
[01:05:00.680 --> 01:05:04.680]  Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.
[01:05:04.680 --> 01:05:06.680]  All right. How's it working out for you?
[01:05:06.680 --> 01:05:07.680]  Well, it's great.
[01:05:07.680 --> 01:05:11.680]  You can't feel what they're doing and you can't see them either.
[01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:13.680]  Right. Right. Right.
[01:05:13.680 --> 01:05:15.680]  Hey, let's pick up where we left off last week.
[01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:17.680]  Where was that?
[01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:20.680]  There were some questions I had and you had some callers to call in.
[01:05:20.680 --> 01:05:23.680]  So you ran out of time to be able to answer this question.
[01:05:23.680 --> 01:05:25.680]  So you had to get to new callers last week.
[01:05:25.680 --> 01:05:27.680]  OK, what's the question?
[01:05:27.680 --> 01:05:34.680]  OK, this is a couple of good ones for all the listeners to hear this particular question.
[01:05:34.680 --> 01:05:36.680]  Let's see. There's a scenario I had.
[01:05:36.680 --> 01:05:42.680]  I was traveling during the summer with another tennis official that I worked with.
[01:05:42.680 --> 01:05:45.680]  And we were coming back from a tennis tournament.
[01:05:45.680 --> 01:05:48.680]  It's about 400 or 500 mile distance.
[01:05:48.680 --> 01:05:56.680]  And this is a university, University of Washington, was paying him a gas stipend.
[01:05:56.680 --> 01:06:02.680]  And paying for the trip, paying for his hotel, paid for a couple of meal expenses there.
[01:06:02.680 --> 01:06:03.680]  They gave him that.
[01:06:03.680 --> 01:06:08.680]  And of course, paid to work the tennis matches for the college tennis team.
[01:06:08.680 --> 01:06:11.680]  It was a college tennis team tournament.
[01:06:11.680 --> 01:06:14.680]  So I rode back with him on the way back.
[01:06:14.680 --> 01:06:16.680]  I chose not to fly back.
[01:06:16.680 --> 01:06:22.680]  I flew in, but the weather was so bad and the plane was shaking so much and bouncing up and down.
[01:06:22.680 --> 01:06:25.680]  I didn't feel comfortable in flying back.
[01:06:25.680 --> 01:06:30.680]  So I just rode back with him because he stops through here and where I live in Portland, Oregon.
[01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:32.680]  And he goes down to Eugene where he lives.
[01:06:32.680 --> 01:06:34.680]  So he has to pass through here anyway.
[01:06:34.680 --> 01:06:38.680]  So, hey, he's wonderful. He gave me a ride home.
[01:06:38.680 --> 01:06:40.680]  And we were discussing this.
[01:06:40.680 --> 01:06:42.680]  We were discussing all about what's going on.
[01:06:42.680 --> 01:06:47.680]  If you are not engaged in commerce, you're not a driver.
[01:06:47.680 --> 01:06:50.680]  But now here's the situation in this scenario.
[01:06:50.680 --> 01:06:56.680]  I was riding along with him and he's being paid a gas stipend by the university.
[01:06:56.680 --> 01:07:06.680]  He's being paid for his mileage, certain amount of percentage or amount for each mile to and fro.
[01:07:06.680 --> 01:07:14.680]  So at that, you know, in that scenario, is he in this case, in instance, is he a driver?
[01:07:14.680 --> 01:07:16.680]  No.
[01:07:16.680 --> 01:07:17.680]  Still not a driver?
[01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:18.680]  Still not a driver.
[01:07:18.680 --> 01:07:27.680]  There is a difference between being paid a living wage to do something and having costs offset to do something.
[01:07:27.680 --> 01:07:34.680]  It would be no different than you and he sharing the cost of gas out there and back entirely on your own.
[01:07:34.680 --> 01:07:43.680]  You're not in commerce as the person behind the wheel simply because the other person splits the cost of the gas with you or even offers to pay for it.
[01:07:43.680 --> 01:07:51.680]  That is not paying you a living wage or and you're not conducting a business by doing it.
[01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:55.680]  Even if I'm riding along with him and I offer.
[01:07:55.680 --> 01:07:57.680]  It's not a business.
[01:07:57.680 --> 01:08:00.680]  It is not used to generate a profit.
[01:08:00.680 --> 01:08:03.680]  It is an offset of expenses.
[01:08:03.680 --> 01:08:06.680]  There's plenty of case law on exactly that.
[01:08:06.680 --> 01:08:11.680]  It is what in Texas used to be referred to as the guest statute provisions.
[01:08:11.680 --> 01:08:20.680]  Someone that was a guest had absolutely no recourse to sue the person behind the wheel if they got into an accident,
[01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:30.680]  unless the guest was injured due to complete and total negligence of the owner or person behind the wheel.
[01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:39.680]  Whereas someone that was on the clock and getting paid and in the car for the purpose of making a living,
[01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:47.680]  whether it be, for instance, one of the cases in an example here is there was a guy who one of his employees was a chef.
[01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:49.680]  The man owned a restaurant.
[01:08:49.680 --> 01:09:02.680]  He was paying the chef to work a party at his house and he gave the guy a lift from his house to his home for the party so he could work.
[01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:05.680]  He was on the clock the whole time.
[01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.680]  They got in a wreck.
[01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:14.680]  The chef could sue for damages because he was on the clock.
[01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:23.680]  But had he just been a friend that was coming over to do the cooking and to just help him with the party and so on and so forth,
[01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:29.680]  he would not have been able to sue unless he could have proved the other guy was completely negligent.
[01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:31.680]  I see.
[01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:37.680]  So it has to be based if you're being paid.
[01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:45.680]  The case law makes it always based on two factors, business and use.
[01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:52.680]  Is it for private profit or gain and is it for a business use?
[01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:54.680]  The use is the key.
[01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.680]  Is it being used for that purpose?
[01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:00.680]  They were paying him pretty good.
[01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:03.680]  It must have been somewhere between 50 to 75 cents.
[01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:04.680]  No, no, no.
[01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:06.680]  Again, they're not paying him.
[01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:08.680]  They are offsetting his expenses.
[01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:12.680]  There's a difference.
[01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:14.680]  What if he makes a significant profit from that?
[01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:17.680]  It's irrelevant.
[01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:18.680]  That's irrelevant.
[01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.680]  If they have a standard fee they pay for offset expenses, that's what it is.
[01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:27.680]  He's not doing it for the profit of the mileage.
[01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.680]  He's not being paid to drive.
[01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:36.680]  He's simply having the cost of doing so offset.
[01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:38.680]  He's not getting paid.
[01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:44.680]  His offset or his expenses are being reimbursed.
[01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:50.680]  Well, all right, next time I see him I will tell him that even in that scenario you're not a driver
[01:10:50.680 --> 01:11:01.680]  because I was thinking that maybe since he's being paid a very good substantial amount for his travel expenses.
[01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:10.680]  If they were paying him a salary on the clock to drive out there and back as well as his expenses, that would be a driver.
[01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:11.680]  Yeah.
[01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:12.680]  No.
[01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:14.680]  They're paying for all of his expenses.
[01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:15.680]  Correct.
[01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:20.680]  He's at the hotel and everything and for the work.
[01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:21.680]  Right.
[01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:22.680]  Okay.
[01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:23.680]  I'll tell him next time.
[01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:24.680]  Okay.
[01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:26.680]  Question number two.
[01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:32.680]  I know you don't believe in filing for a driver's license because you're not a driver and I'm not a driver.
[01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:40.680]  But what is your – where do you stand as far as do you believe in getting a state issued ID?
[01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:43.680]  Not when they require an invasion of privacy to issue it.
[01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:47.680]  If they want biometric information and things like that, that's none of their business.
[01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:52.680]  And I see there's no law that requires anyone to have a state issued ID.
[01:11:52.680 --> 01:12:00.680]  And therefore to interfere with the right of the people to go from here to there or anywhere else via the airlines or whatever
[01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:07.680]  to make it mandatory that a state ID be produced for that purpose, I don't care what the courts say.
[01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:14.680]  You cannot be compelled to produce an ID to get on a plane because there's no law that compels you to have the ID in the first place.
[01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:23.680]  And the lack of ID cannot be the basis for the denial of a right that you have under the right to liberty.
[01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:24.680]  Okay.
[01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:26.680]  So what do you do?
[01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:27.680]  What's the alternative suggestion?
[01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:32.680]  Do you know how I got on a plane to go to New York?
[01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:36.680]  I had a copy of my birth certificate.
[01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:42.680]  That is the only thing I used to get on the plane.
[01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.680]  An official certificate with the seal on it and all that?
[01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:51.680]  Yeah, an actual copy of it from the county clerk back home where it was issued.
[01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:53.680]  And no, the name is not in all caps.
[01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:55.680]  No, there's not a bond number on it.
[01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.680]  No, there's not a bank note on it.
[01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:00.680]  Okay.
[01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:09.680]  What if all I have since I was born well before 1972, I have just a birth record?
[01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:13.680]  Well, I was born in 64, so.
[01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:14.680]  Okay.
[01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:15.680]  All right.
[01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:22.680]  So do you have a record, a birth record or a formal state issued birth certificate?
[01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:29.680]  Well, it's a record, but that can put any title on the piece of paper they want.
[01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:33.680]  See, I don't have the one with the rainbow color and everything, the fringe and all that kind of stuff.
[01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:36.680]  It's not the formal birth certificate with the seal.
[01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:39.680]  Well, the thing is the original says one thing,
[01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:44.680]  a copy of it that they print out will be on whatever current form they're using.
[01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:48.680]  The form changes all the time.
[01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:53.680]  If they run out of a stock of a particular type of form and they generate something new
[01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:57.680]  that's got some sort of security features for copying and all that on it,
[01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:02.680]  the very thing it could be done to identify it would make a change.
[01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:09.680]  Like the copy you got 15 years ago may have a serialized number on the top right-hand corner.
[01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:14.680]  The new one's got one on the top left-hand corner, and it's a completely different numbered series,
[01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:22.680]  but it's still a copy of your original information on your original birth record, whatever that actually said.
[01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:23.680]  So don't.
[01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:24.680]  Okay.
[01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:29.680]  There's a big problem with people reading into them printing this out on a piece of paper.
[01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:32.680]  In order to know what you actually think you know,
[01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:39.680]  you need to go look at the actual document that was made when you were born.
[01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:46.680]  And mine doesn't have any of the stuff on it that they're always crying about in the patronet community
[01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:53.680]  about it being making me a bond slave, baloney.
[01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:55.680]  Well, it says do not accept it.
[01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:56.680]  Let me put it this way.
[01:14:56.680 --> 01:15:04.680]  If anyone out there thinks I'm your bond slave, you come talk to me and try to collect.
[01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:05.680]  All right.
[01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:06.680]  All right.
[01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:07.680]  All right, good.
[01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:11.680]  Well, as I said, all I've got is a black and white photocopy.
[01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:13.680]  It has all the name, you know, my name.
[01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:14.680]  Yeah, that's what my original one is.
[01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:20.680]  But the one that I've got a copy of that I keep with me when I travel around is actually red.
[01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:25.680]  The paper's all red, the typing on it's all black, and it's all proper case.
[01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:26.680]  It's not all uppercase.
[01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:29.680]  Everything on it's proper case.
[01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:33.680]  Capital first, lower everything else, and so on and so forth.
[01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:35.680]  Everybody's name is that way.
[01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:38.680]  So sorry, guys.
[01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:41.680]  It's all in how the computer software was written to generate it.
[01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:43.680]  Sorry.
[01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:45.680]  Do you have your footsies in ink?
[01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.680]  Not on the copy, no.
[01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:50.680]  Yeah, I got the one with the footsies on there.
[01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:51.680]  I think I do have them.
[01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:52.680]  Well, that's the COL.
[01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:54.680]  That's not the birth record.
[01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:56.680]  That's the COL.
[01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:58.680]  Or COLB, rather.
[01:15:58.680 --> 01:15:59.680]  Right, right, right.
[01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:00.680]  Okay.
[01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:04.680]  I'm planning to travel down to California around October to help my step-up.
[01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:05.680]  Well, good.
[01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:08.680]  You've got less than a minute to do that before I have to hang up on you.
[01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:09.680]  Okay.
[01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:11.680]  Now, the question is about that.
[01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:14.680]  To rent a car, do I need to have a-
[01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:18.680]  Just every state says that they are forbidden to rent a car to someone that does not provide them
[01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:24.680]  with a state-issued license from a state that honors the driver's license compact.
[01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:25.680]  Okay.
[01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:26.680]  All right.
[01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:32.680]  That one doesn't expire until 2016 anyway, but I don't know what the status is on it anyway.
[01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:35.680]  I left them when I was in the state anyway.
[01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:36.680]  Okay.
[01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:37.680]  All right.
[01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:40.680]  The rest of the questions I have, I think I need to talk to Randy about this one.
[01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:41.680]  This is a property question issue.
[01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:42.680]  Okay.
[01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.680]  Well, I'll take it up with him, but I got to go on break, and I got other callers waiting,
[01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:46.680]  so I'll get them.
[01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:48.680]  But thanks for calling in, Raider.
[01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:49.680]  Right.
[01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:50.680]  Thank you very much, Eddie.
[01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:51.680]  Yeah.
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[01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:48.680]  Now we're going to go to Brad in Texas.
[01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:51.680]  Brad, what can we do for you?
[01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:54.680]  Thank you for taking my call, Mr. Craig.
[01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:55.680]  Yes, sir.
[01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:58.680]  My question relates to affidavit.
[01:19:58.680 --> 01:19:59.680]  Okay.
[01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:06.680]  I have reason to believe that I may have been doing affidavits incorrectly,
[01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:09.680]  and I wanted to get your thoughts on this subject.
[01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:15.680]  It might surprise you how many people actually, including lawyers, do affidavits incorrectly.
[01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:16.680]  Oh, really?
[01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:17.680]  Yep.
[01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:18.680]  Really?
[01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:25.680]  Well, the way that I've set up affidavits has been to attach a caveat,
[01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:32.680]  making it a sworn statement to the best of my knowledge and beliefs.
[01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:39.680]  And I've recently come across some information that says that it should be set up
[01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:44.680]  strictly as a sworn statement based on personal knowledge.
[01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:46.680]  Is that correct?
[01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.680]  That is absolutely correct.
[01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:53.680]  The problem with most of the things that the attorneys are doing
[01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:58.680]  is they're having people sign affidavits as affiants that have no firsthand knowledge
[01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.680]  of what's being asserted.
[01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:05.680]  There's also many people that are making arguments, drawing conclusions,
[01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:11.680]  or telling stories in an affidavit, and that is not what it's for.
[01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:15.680]  An affidavit is strictly a statement of facts
[01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:20.680]  to which the affiant has personal firsthand knowledge,
[01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:24.680]  and the signature is there to say two things.
[01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:30.680]  I am the signatory as verified by the person here that's signing beneath me,
[01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:36.680]  and I am attesting that all the facts asserted herein are true and correct.
[01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:40.680]  Now, one of the things about affidavits is an affidavit
[01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:46.680]  cannot have any qualifying language of any kind.
[01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:52.680]  If it says, I think, I believe, I consider, anything of that,
[01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:58.680]  that's a qualifying statement, like if this happens or that happens.
[01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:00.680]  Those are qualifications.
[01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:02.680]  They do not belong in affidavits.
[01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:04.680]  It invalidates the whole thing.
[01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:12.680]  The other thing is that an affidavit is valid only if signed under penalty of perjury.
[01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:20.680]  So the prospect of the penalty of perjury should not be the overriding concern
[01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:24.680]  in drawing up and filing an affidavit.
[01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:28.680]  No, actually, it should be a very high-level concern,
[01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:33.680]  because if you're attesting to facts in that affidavit that are not true,
[01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.680]  you can be charged with perjury.
[01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:40.680]  And if the reason those false statements exist in that affidavit
[01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:46.680]  and you signed it were to cause injury in any form to someone else,
[01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:50.680]  it becomes aggravated perjury.
[01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:58.680]  Oh, well, I'm very glad that I called you and got this straightened out.
[01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:02.680]  And I appreciate your take on that.
[01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:03.680]  Yes, sir, no problem.
[01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:04.680]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:05.680]  Anything else?
[01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:07.680]  Thank you.
[01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:13.680]  No, sir, I – well, I do have another question, but I'll save it for another time.
[01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.680]  Okay. Well, thanks for calling in, Brad.
[01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:17.680]  Thank you. Bye.
[01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:18.680]  Bye-bye.
[01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:21.680]  All right. Now we're going to go to Roger in Washington.
[01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:23.680]  Roger, what can we do for you?
[01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:27.680]  Good evening, Eddie. Great show, as usual.
[01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:29.680]  Well, thank you.
[01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:35.680]  Just to address your monologue in the beginning of tonight's show
[01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:39.680]  about why aren't these people in jail and –
[01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:42.680]  Well, now, secretly I know the answer to that, but –
[01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:46.680]  Well, we all do. We all do, but I thought I'd contribute this.
[01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:48.680]  Well, okay, go ahead.
[01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:49.680]  One of the possibilities –
[01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:50.680]  Go ahead, get it off your chest.
[01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:54.680]  I'd hate for ulcers or cancer to be in your life because you didn't get rid of this burden.
[01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:55.680]  Go ahead.
[01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:59.680]  I refuse to have either one of those things.
[01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:04.680]  You said they are in violation of the Constitution, and I agree.
[01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:11.680]  But the thing is, in my opinion, what has happened is the Constitution has been replaced
[01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:21.680]  because the way it read originally was the Constitution for the United States of America.
[01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:24.680]  Well, I agree with you. I completely agree.
[01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:27.680]  But let me throw one other little caveat in where you're going with this.
[01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:29.680]  I say it doesn't matter.
[01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:34.680]  The one they replaced it with has a built-in self-destruct clause as well.
[01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:39.680]  Yeah, I heard you're showing that some time back, and I don't agree with you,
[01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:42.680]  but I don't want to really get into that right now.
[01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:43.680]  Well, okay.
[01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:46.680]  But I really don't agree with that, but that's okay.
[01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:56.680]  But, okay, I just brought that up just to point out what it says now and what has happened.
[01:24:56.680 --> 01:25:00.680]  Since now it says the Constitution of the United States.
[01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.680]  That's a totally different noun.
[01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:05.680]  It's no longer United States of America.
[01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:07.680]  It's United States.
[01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:12.680]  And so they're talking about a different place, different law, different everything.
[01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:22.680]  And the ones who were responsible for changing that, they're all dead now, long dead.
[01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:33.680]  And we both know the way they conduct business today is as if the Constitution barely exists.
[01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:37.680]  Well, here's the reason why I believe they believe that mine's valid.
[01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:38.680]  It doesn't exist.
[01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:40.680]  They don't want us to know that.
[01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.680]  They keep it hidden as much as possible.
[01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:48.680]  But it's the only way they can stay where they're at is to convince us it still has some power.
[01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:52.680]  Because consider, if that document's gone, so is all of their power and authority.
[01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:53.680]  It's history.
[01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:54.680]  It's gone.
[01:25:54.680 --> 01:26:02.680]  Well, yeah, but see, they've reformed it under this new entity called the Constitution of the United States,
[01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:05.680]  which is an entirely different entity.
[01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:09.680]  In fact, as you know, the U.S. is a corporation now.
[01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:12.680]  Somebody says, well, show me the papers.
[01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:17.680]  I believe those were traceable at one time, but they've changed it around, I've been told.
[01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:18.680]  But it doesn't matter.
[01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:21.680]  I've seen it in federal law in a definition.
[01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:22.680]  I can't remember.
[01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:25.680]  I have it in a stack of papers somewhere.
[01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:29.680]  But I've seen it in federal law where in their definitions to the law,
[01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:34.680]  they define the United States as being a corporation.
[01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:39.680]  So anyway, that's all that I have to say about that.
[01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:46.680]  And I'd like to discuss that with you some other time about whether the Constitution for the United States of America
[01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:48.680]  ever existed anyhow.
[01:26:48.680 --> 01:26:49.680]  I think it does.
[01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:53.680]  I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it's like a –
[01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:55.680]  Well, I didn't say it never existed.
[01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:58.680]  I said it has a self-destruct clause.
[01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:00.680]  It existed up until a point came.
[01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:05.680]  And then once that point was passed, it was gone.
[01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:06.680]  Okay.
[01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:08.680]  Tell me what that was again.
[01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:13.680]  It's the clause dealing with eligibility to be president.
[01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:23.680]  The very thing they're using to argue why Obama can't be president is the very reason why no one is eligible to be president.
[01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:28.680]  The construction of that phrase with the commas where they are, the third statement,
[01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:34.680]  the third segment of that line, modifies both of the first two.
[01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:37.680]  So if you read them that way, you read the first one.
[01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:47.680]  Only a natural-born citizen of the United States, third segment, at the time of its adoption.
[01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:48.680]  Okay.
[01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:55.680]  Read the second segment exactly the same way, second segment, at the time of its adoption.
[01:27:55.680 --> 01:28:00.680]  The punctuation modifies both of the first two with the third.
[01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:09.680]  Well, only someone living at the time of its adoption could qualify under those conditions.
[01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:19.680]  So if someone was born one second before, you know, that period ended,
[01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:28.680]  then that would have been the last person that would have been eligible under those conditions to be president.
[01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:31.680]  Okay. I hear what you're saying.
[01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.680]  I'm going to go back over that, get my head straight on it.
[01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:38.680]  But it sounds like one of those deals that Hamilton was involved in where he—
[01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:43.680]  Well, I'm favoring Madison over Hamilton.
[01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:49.680]  Madison was a much bigger British supporter than Hamilton from what I understand of the history of it.
[01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:52.680]  I've just come to find that out.
[01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:59.680]  But I do know Hamilton, and I think Madison, too, were on the, what was it called, the Committee of Styles?
[01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.680]  Yeah, the Styles Committee.
[01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:05.680]  The Committee on Form and Styles was the official name, I think.
[01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:08.680]  Yeah, and they shot the whole thing up with commas.
[01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:10.680]  They just love that.
[01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:11.680]  That weren't there before.
[01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:12.680]  Exactly.
[01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:16.680]  But the thing is, these guys knew language.
[01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:25.680]  Everybody that put pen to paper on any part of the construction of that instrument, those people knew language,
[01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:29.680]  like no one today knows language.
[01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:34.680]  They knew exactly what they were doing.
[01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:36.680]  I agree.
[01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:37.680]  All right.
[01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:42.680]  But, yeah, take a look at it and let me know what you find out when you call in next time, all right?
[01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:45.680]  Okay. I have one other thing I'd like to cover real quick.
[01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:46.680]  Okay.
[01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:49.680]  Well, let me get done with this break, and we'll pick you up and deal with that, all right?
[01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:50.680]  All right, folks.
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[01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:57.680]  All right, Roger, what's your other question?
[01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:02.680]  Okay, I'm going to preface this with our right to travel, which I'm not arguing
[01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:08.680]  or want to argue in a courtroom because it's in the law and everybody knows it.
[01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:17.680]  But if you say to a judge, and I'm thinking of the one in this county,
[01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:27.680]  because I just know him, I've sat in many of his courtroom appearances,
[01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:33.680]  I'm sure if you told this judge you didn't need to register your car,
[01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:39.680]  driver's license or insurance and so on, I'm sure his response would be,
[01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:45.680]  yes, you can travel, but you must have your car.
[01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:50.680]  That is not what Washington Revised Code says.
[01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:59.680]  Well, it depends on how they write it in such a way it makes it sound like this.
[01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:03.680]  No, I've actually got the information for Washington State.
[01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:05.680]  I have to find it again.
[01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:06.680]  You sent it to me.
[01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:07.680]  Oh, okay.
[01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:09.680]  But I'm sure this is what he'd say.
[01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:15.680]  Yes, you can travel with your car, but it must be registered and have a tag on it.
[01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:19.680]  And they probably give a reason for safety and prevention of crime.
[01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:22.680]  And I can actually see some of that, the prevention of crime,
[01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:29.680]  like if you use your car in a bank robbery or something like that.
[01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:31.680]  Well, let me ask you this question, Judge.
[01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:34.680]  Can you rob a bank on horseback?
[01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:35.680]  Sure.
[01:35:35.680 --> 01:35:40.680]  Can you legally go down the road on a horse?
[01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:41.680]  Yes.
[01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:44.680]  You can also rob a bank with a stolen car.
[01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:45.680]  Exactly.
[01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:46.680]  I think Clyde used to do that.
[01:35:46.680 --> 01:35:47.680]  Right.
[01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:52.680]  So the fact that there's a license plate on the car does not in any way affect
[01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:56.680]  or enable the apprehension of the criminals as long as they get out of the car
[01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:59.680]  before someone finds it.
[01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:01.680]  Now, the public safety issue.
[01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:06.680]  Can you please explain why having a piece of metal attached to the back of my car
[01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:09.680]  makes it safer?
[01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:12.680]  Of course it doesn't.
[01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.680]  Okay, then let's talk about the piece of plastic in my wallet.
[01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:19.680]  How does a piece of plastic in my wallet make the public safer?
[01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:22.680]  Now, I can tell you the argument they're going to use there.
[01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:25.680]  Well, that proves that you're trained and capable, really.
[01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:30.680]  But they can do that on an initial exam, which I'm all for, fine.
[01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:31.680]  Well, but here's the issue.
[01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:32.680]  What else?
[01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:37.680]  They don't charge you an initial exam to go ride the horse down the street.
[01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:43.680]  The courts long ago ruled that the car is no different than the horse in carriage.
[01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:47.680]  It is simply a more modern expression of the people's right to locomotion.
[01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:52.680]  It's a new invention that enables that capability to be expanded.
[01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:59.680]  Therefore, it's not something that is removed as a right simply because it has a motor.
[01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:06.680]  It's an improved form of the horse, just like the bicycle or anything else.
[01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:10.680]  And that's exactly how the courts ruled on it.
[01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:17.680]  So what the court did say, though, was that it comes down to the use.
[01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:19.680]  Here's the issue.
[01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:24.680]  The license is always commercial, always.
[01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:26.680]  Yes.
[01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:30.680]  Therefore, what he's telling you is, is you can travel down the road freely
[01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:35.680]  as long as you are willing to use your car for commerce.
[01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:39.680]  Well, that's the exact opposite of being able to travel the road freely.
[01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:42.680]  They're contradictory arguments.
[01:37:42.680 --> 01:37:44.680]  Exactly, yeah.
[01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:45.680]  So the same thing applies.
[01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:49.680]  I just read over the weekend in Washington State law.
[01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:51.680]  State statute, get it right.
[01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:58.680]  The Washington State statute says that if you're stopped in your car by a police officer,
[01:37:58.680 --> 01:38:06.680]  you must present either a driver's license or a state ID as a means to identify yourself.
[01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:11.680]  Again, what law says you have to have a state ID?
[01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:15.680]  How can you present that which you do not possess?
[01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:19.680]  The only law is just their statute.
[01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:27.680]  Exactly, but the statute doesn't say that you must go down and apply for a state ID, does it?
[01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:31.680]  Well, see, the way they write this stuff, it sounds like you do.
[01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:35.680]  Yes, and that's the intention of it, to be deceptive.
[01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:39.680]  But no law can compel you to get that state-issued ID.
[01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:43.680]  The law can only compel you to produce it if you're using it,
[01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:48.680]  your other property in a fashion over which they have regulatory power.
[01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:53.680]  If you will notice, the statute says that if you are operating a motor vehicle,
[01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.680]  you must produce those things.
[01:38:56.680 --> 01:39:02.680]  Well, if your car is not required to be registered in Washington as a motor vehicle,
[01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:07.680]  how can it be a motor vehicle if it's not registered?
[01:39:07.680 --> 01:39:13.680]  The other thing they do is they define a motor vehicle, but they don't mention commerce.
[01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:17.680]  Yes, they do. Yes, they do.
[01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:19.680]  You just don't recognize it.
[01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:28.680]  Exactly. They use the phrase to operate a motor vehicle upon the highways in this state.
[01:39:28.680 --> 01:39:39.680]  No. What they say is a device designed and used to transport persons or property upon the highway.
[01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:43.680]  Transport is your commercial connection.
[01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:51.680]  Anybody transporting is getting paid.
[01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:54.680]  Well, I know this judge, and he would argue that point.
[01:39:54.680 --> 01:39:56.680]  I don't know it doesn't mean that.
[01:39:56.680 --> 01:39:59.680]  So you wind up as usual.
[01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:01.680]  You'll always get convicted.
[01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:07.680]  Yes, but see, that's exactly why arguing the merits of their statute is not the way to go.
[01:40:07.680 --> 01:40:13.680]  The judge is going to have a hard time making an argument stick if you do it this way.
[01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:17.680]  Judge, you agree that I have the right to travel upon the road
[01:40:17.680 --> 01:40:22.680]  and that my right is associated with my liberty through locomotion.
[01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:25.680]  Do we agree? Yes, I do.
[01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:31.680]  Can you please tell me where the state got any authority from the people of Washington
[01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:37.680]  to license our rights back to us for a fee?
[01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:41.680]  I agree. They couldn't really.
[01:40:41.680 --> 01:40:42.680]  Exactly.
[01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:48.680]  I guess the only way they could is say, well, there was no opposition to it, so the public can...
[01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:52.680]  Objection. My rights are not subject to a public vote.
[01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:57.680]  This is not a democracy of majority vote and mob rule.
[01:40:57.680 --> 01:41:01.680]  My rights are from a Republican form of government
[01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:07.680]  where the individual rights are protected from exactly that thing.
[01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:11.680]  Well, you know, I agree with that under the original Constitution,
[01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:18.680]  but recently I have been persuaded that the way we operate now is a democracy.
[01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:21.680]  It's basically mob rule by the elite.
[01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:24.680]  Well, I agree that that's what they're doing.
[01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:30.680]  What I'm disagreeing with is that they have the authority to do it.
[01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:32.680]  We're letting them get away with doing this
[01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:38.680]  because there's only a handful of us out here raising our voices and saying no.
[01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:44.680]  Now, that's all it took in the war, the Revolutionary War against England to win,
[01:41:44.680 --> 01:41:48.680]  but still you got to have people that are willing to take the Second Amendment
[01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:52.680]  and use it for what it was intended for if it comes to that,
[01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:55.680]  and they're making dang sure it comes to that.
[01:41:55.680 --> 01:41:59.680]  Yeah, yeah. No, I agree.
[01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:03.680]  Right now, I think what we have left, and it's not much,
[01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:13.680]  is to voice our argument in court if it goes that far and just refuse to consent.
[01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:18.680]  Yeah, but my problem with that is the courts controlled by the lawyers,
[01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:20.680]  the legislatures controlled by the lawyers,
[01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:23.680]  the executive controlled by the lawyers,
[01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:29.680]  is putting us into the system that they control for their own profit and gain.
[01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:33.680]  The world's biggest monopoly is in play here,
[01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:37.680]  and that monopoly worldwide, regardless of how you think about it,
[01:42:37.680 --> 01:42:40.680]  is not individual corporations.
[01:42:40.680 --> 01:42:47.680]  It's the bar associations that give the legal advice to all of them.
[01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:53.680]  They create the rules that this system is getting flushed down the toilet with.
[01:42:53.680 --> 01:43:00.680]  Shakespeare had it partially correct, kill all the lawyers.
[01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:03.680]  I thought that summed it up. What's the rest of it?
[01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:05.680]  Well, the rest of it is the beginning of the phrase,
[01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:08.680]  to ensure chaos, kill all the lawyers.
[01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:14.680]  I disagree. To remove chaos, kill all the lawyers.
[01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:17.680]  Okay.
[01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:19.680]  Actually, okay.
[01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:23.680]  Well, I'm just chomping at the bed for you to get your website up.
[01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:25.680]  Yeah, so am I.
[01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:29.680]  That's the problem with just being two of us getting done.
[01:43:29.680 --> 01:43:32.680]  I'm looking for volunteers, if we have any good coders out there,
[01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:35.680]  that want to join in and help us get this off the ground,
[01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:38.680]  because we could really use the programming help.
[01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:40.680]  But in the meantime, we'll do what we can.
[01:43:40.680 --> 01:43:43.680]  All right, Roger, we're about to go into another break,
[01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:46.680]  and I've got to get the rest of these callers in this last segment,
[01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:48.680]  so I appreciate the time, man. You hang in there, okay?
[01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:50.680]  All right, Will. Thank you, Eddie.
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[01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:27.680]  This is Rule of Law Radio, and we are going to go to Joe in Texas.
[01:46:27.680 --> 01:46:32.680]  We had Joe drop off and rejoin, so Joe, what's up?
[01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:33.680]  Hey, Eddie.
[01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:34.680]  Evening.
[01:46:34.680 --> 01:46:35.680]  Hello.
[01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:36.680]  Yeah, I hear you.
[01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:37.680]  Go ahead.
[01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:39.680]  Eddie, I was going to ask you a question.
[01:46:39.680 --> 01:46:40.680]  I got pulled over.
[01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:43.680]  I guess I might have told you the story, but I'm still kind of curious.
[01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:47.680]  When I got pulled over, I said I was not in commercial transportation,
[01:46:47.680 --> 01:46:49.680]  and the offer, you know, so...
[01:46:49.680 --> 01:46:52.680]  Well, that's a double statement there.
[01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:53.680]  That's repetitive.
[01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:54.680]  It's redundant.
[01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:59.680]  I am not engaged in transportation or other commercial use of the highway.
[01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:02.680]  Transportation is commerce.
[01:47:02.680 --> 01:47:03.680]  But go ahead, Joe.
[01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:04.680]  Okay.
[01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:07.680]  And so when you asked for my driver's license, they said,
[01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:08.680]  do you have a driver's license?
[01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:11.680]  I said, I have, but I'm not going to show it to you.
[01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:13.680]  And then he asked me for my insurance, and I said,
[01:47:13.680 --> 01:47:15.680]  I'm not going to show it to you either.
[01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:18.680]  And then I said, I can show you my identification.
[01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:20.680]  Of course, I didn't have one.
[01:47:20.680 --> 01:47:23.680]  But because of that reason, he said, well, I can arrest you.
[01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:25.680]  So, you know, they placed me twice in the...
[01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:28.680]  When they searched me, you know, they were going to send me to jail,
[01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:30.680]  and they took the license out of my wallet.
[01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:31.680]  Right.
[01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:36.680]  And that's the big difference there in refusing versus invoking your rights.
[01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:40.680]  The better response to the officer's demand for production of the documents
[01:47:40.680 --> 01:47:42.680]  who would have been an officer,
[01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:45.680]  can any of the information you're demanding from me be used against me
[01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:49.680]  in a court of law or to potentially incriminate me in any way?
[01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:54.680]  The answer, of course, is yes, in which case you can say,
[01:47:54.680 --> 01:47:57.680]  Officer, look, all I'm doing is invoking my right to remain silent.
[01:47:57.680 --> 01:48:01.680]  I can't produce information to you without legal advice telling me that it's okay,
[01:48:01.680 --> 01:48:06.680]  because if it can do those things, I'm not willing to waive that right.
[01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:11.680]  Rather than refusing, if you do that, they're going to have a hard time saying
[01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:17.680]  that you're obstructing them simply by invoking a right that they can't make you waive.
[01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:21.680]  And they cannot convert the exercise of that right into a criminal act,
[01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:27.680]  which is exactly what the state statute tries to do.
[01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:28.680]  Okay.
[01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:31.680]  And so then I started kind of asking myself a question.
[01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:35.680]  Should I go get an identification card?
[01:48:35.680 --> 01:48:38.680]  I guess that wouldn't help either, right?
[01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:39.680]  Because I just heard you earlier.
[01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:41.680]  Well, you can get the identification card.
[01:48:41.680 --> 01:48:45.680]  At least it's not an admission of transportation when you pull it out.
[01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:48.680]  But...
[01:48:48.680 --> 01:48:49.680]  Okay.
[01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:51.680]  Well, and then let me ask you this.
[01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:55.680]  What is the meaning of obstruction on a highway?
[01:48:55.680 --> 01:49:00.680]  In the case that, you know, my DUI was dismissed,
[01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:05.680]  but I was still on the obstruction of highway.
[01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:09.680]  I mean, how those two things differ?
[01:49:09.680 --> 01:49:10.680]  I'm not sure I follow you.
[01:49:10.680 --> 01:49:12.680]  Say that again.
[01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:15.680]  In a DUI, people did dismiss their DUI,
[01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:18.680]  but then they still filed obstruction of justice on the highway,
[01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:20.680]  obstruction of that justice.
[01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.680]  Well, that's because you refused.
[01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:27.680]  They used your refusal as the basis of that charge.
[01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:33.680]  They couldn't charge you with obstruction if all you did was invoke a protected right.
[01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:35.680]  Mm-hmm.
[01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:38.680]  And so that's law then?
[01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:41.680]  I mean, that was legislated for law?
[01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:49.680]  521.025 is where the statute attempts to make it an offense to not produce it on demand.
[01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:54.680]  But that's a forcible waiver of rights to exercise a privilege.
[01:49:54.680 --> 01:49:57.680]  They can't do that.
[01:49:57.680 --> 01:50:00.680]  Mm-hmm.
[01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:01.680]  Okay.
[01:50:01.680 --> 01:50:05.680]  Well, I'll probably try to get this talked to you later, but I appreciate your time.
[01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:06.680]  Sure thing.
[01:50:06.680 --> 01:50:08.680]  I'll do some donations, brother.
[01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:09.680]  All right.
[01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:09.680]  I appreciate it, Joe.
[01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:10.680]  Thanks.
[01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:11.680]  All right.
[01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:13.680]  Now we're going to go to Max in Texas.
[01:50:13.680 --> 01:50:16.680]  Max, what can we do for you?
[01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:22.680]  Oh, yes, I had to hurry through this, try to make it as quick as possible.
[01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:26.680]  Last we left off, and we were going to write a cease and desist letter
[01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:32.680]  regarding my mother's Dallas County school-alarm stop violation or whatever.
[01:50:32.680 --> 01:50:33.680]  Right.
[01:50:33.680 --> 01:50:38.680]  And I was wondering, we're going to write a cease and desist letter,
[01:50:38.680 --> 01:50:42.680]  and the way I have it worded is, dear city of Dallas,
[01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:49.680]  because I figure they're the respondeat superior of all of these various agencies
[01:50:49.680 --> 01:50:51.680]  that we've been getting responses from.
[01:50:51.680 --> 01:50:54.680]  I mean, we've gotten a response from the Dallas County Schools.
[01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:59.680]  We've gotten a response from the Department of Public Works and Transportation.
[01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:04.680]  We're not quite sure who it is, but we are sure that they all have
[01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:07.680]  the respondeat superior of city of Dallas.
[01:51:07.680 --> 01:51:11.680]  So we are going to send a cease and desist letter to all of those agencies
[01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:16.680]  and also the assistant city attorney that originally responded to us
[01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:18.680]  and the city attorney himself.
[01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:22.680]  Does that sound like we're on the right track there?
[01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:24.680]  Sounds like.
[01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:26.680]  Okay, awesome.
[01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:32.680]  And one other thing, you suggested that we should probably file it
[01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:39.680]  a federal lawsuit for injunction relief, I guess.
[01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:45.680]  So do we need to basically, when we initiate that lawsuit,
[01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:52.680]  do we need to, if we go straight to the Fed, we can just claim the...
[01:51:52.680 --> 01:51:58.680]  In order to get it in the Fed, you're going to have to suffer a harm
[01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:02.680]  because you're required to exhaust all state administrative remedies
[01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:07.680]  unless you have already suffered the violation of your rights.
[01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:11.680]  And that right is something that's federally protected.
[01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:18.680]  Okay, and Eddie, last time we talked, you said that harm had already been accrued
[01:52:18.680 --> 01:52:22.680]  because they threatened her with retaliation,
[01:52:22.680 --> 01:52:27.680]  and then imminent threat of harm was a cause of action in itself.
[01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:30.680]  And is that a cause of action that would be something
[01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:32.680]  that a federal court could give you remedy on?
[01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:37.680]  If you have exhausted all your state administrative remedies, yes.
[01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:40.680]  So after first file with the district court...
[01:52:40.680 --> 01:52:45.680]  At the federal level, the harm has to have happened.
[01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:51.680]  At the state level, you can seek injunctive relief to prevent it from happening.
[01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:53.680]  There's a difference.
[01:52:53.680 --> 01:52:58.680]  We may have to end up paying the filing fees at the state district court.
[01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:01.680]  No, she doesn't necessarily have to pay them.
[01:53:01.680 --> 01:53:05.680]  If she does pay them, it's a dead issue.
[01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:07.680]  She cannot pay them.
[01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:09.680]  No, no, no, not pay the fine.
[01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:13.680]  No, no, no, I understand that, but I'm just simply making sure you understand.
[01:53:13.680 --> 01:53:16.680]  No, the harm does not come from paying the fine.
[01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:18.680]  Don't pay the fine.
[01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:23.680]  The harm comes from anything they do because you didn't.
[01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:24.680]  Exactly.
[01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:30.680]  I was referring to the civil cause of action of threat of imminent harm.
[01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.680]  In other words, they were trying to punish her under cover of law.
[01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:36.680]  Yes.
[01:53:36.680 --> 01:53:37.680]  Okay.
[01:53:37.680 --> 01:53:41.680]  And let me quickly work through this because I know we're running out of time.
[01:53:41.680 --> 01:53:48.680]  Should we include in the cease and desist letter the non-cancelled number of the
[01:53:48.680 --> 01:53:51.680]  administrative thing, you know, like the number that they're giving us on the
[01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:55.680]  ticket, the administrative ticket or whatever, should we include that for their
[01:53:55.680 --> 01:54:02.680]  convenience or should we not stipulate to the fact that it exists at all?
[01:54:02.680 --> 01:54:07.680]  Well, if you've already responded to it, you've already stipulated that it exists.
[01:54:07.680 --> 01:54:13.680]  Okay, okay, so and that shouldn't harm our defense in any manner?
[01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:15.680]  Not particularly, no.
[01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:23.680]  Okay, and then also rule 12B6, is that the one that they normally use to switch
[01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:26.680]  things into the federal jurisdiction?
[01:54:26.680 --> 01:54:30.680]  No, that's what they use to get it thrown out as a suit to begin with.
[01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:35.680]  A 12B6 is challenged to the jurisdiction for failure to state a claim upon which
[01:54:35.680 --> 01:54:37.680]  relief can be granted.
[01:54:37.680 --> 01:54:39.680]  That's right, okay, okay.
[01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:45.680]  I'll look that up a little closer and let's see, I think that's about it now.
[01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:47.680]  I'll blast it out real quick for you.
[01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:48.680]  Okay.
[01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:49.680]  Hopefully you can get a next caller.
[01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:51.680]  All right, thanks, Max.
[01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:52.680]  All right, good night.
[01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:53.680]  Good night.
[01:54:53.680 --> 01:54:55.680]  All right, now we're going to go to Jim in Ohio.
[01:54:55.680 --> 01:54:58.680]  Jim, what do you got?
[01:54:58.680 --> 01:54:59.680]  Hi, Eddie.
[01:54:59.680 --> 01:55:01.680]  Nice to hear your voice.
[01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:10.680]  I was wondering if you knew of a precedent in code, procedure, or case law that a
[01:55:10.680 --> 01:55:15.680]  judge must allow someone to allocute their position before they can be
[01:55:15.680 --> 01:55:21.680]  incarcerated for, say, contempt?
[01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:24.680]  Well, in what context are you talking about getting their position?
[01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:30.680]  Specifically answering completely the question that they've asked you.
[01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:35.680]  Well, it depends on the issue, I guess, and what the question is and what the
[01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:38.680]  response was coming to it.
[01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:39.680]  It's hard to say.
[01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:44.680]  But the issue of holding you in contempt, you need to see what the particular
[01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:47.680]  rules are relating to contempt.
[01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:50.680]  A judge can't hold you in contempt just because he wants to.
[01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:54.680]  He has to have a valid legal reason for it.
[01:55:54.680 --> 01:56:00.680]  And simply because you won't answer a certain question that's, you know, that he
[01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:05.680]  doesn't, that he wants answered unless it's relating to information such as the
[01:56:05.680 --> 01:56:12.680]  name of a source in a reporter's case or a witness or something like that.
[01:56:12.680 --> 01:56:16.680]  That's not a basis for answering a question unless you did it in a way that's
[01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:20.680]  not acceptable by calling him all kinds of names and all this in the process.
[01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:25.680]  But there are rules surrounding contempt.
[01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:26.680]  Yes.
[01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:29.680]  And I looked at those and didn't find the precedent I was looking for.
[01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:36.680]  I had a judge in the sentencing hearing on a traffic deal where there was a 30-day
[01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:40.680]  probation that says if you get another citation, if you're convicted of another
[01:56:40.680 --> 01:56:43.680]  citation of any kind, that you have to do the 30 days.
[01:56:43.680 --> 01:56:45.680]  And he had misread that.
[01:56:45.680 --> 01:56:47.680]  This was a judge that was sitting in for the judge.
[01:56:47.680 --> 01:56:51.680]  It was the trial judge because the other judge is in a hospital.
[01:56:51.680 --> 01:56:59.680]  And time had passed from the original trial, which was the last May, actually.
[01:56:59.680 --> 01:57:06.680]  And so he had misread it and was looking at something where the sentence that was
[01:57:06.680 --> 01:57:08.680]  going to be invoked was the 30 days.
[01:57:08.680 --> 01:57:17.680]  And I ended up doing a day of it before I was able to allocute completely what the
[01:57:17.680 --> 01:57:19.680]  situation was supposed to be.
[01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:23.680]  He thought that there was 30 days there that I was going to do and he was starting
[01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:26.680]  me on the road to that.
[01:57:26.680 --> 01:57:33.680]  So by not being allowed to explain that fully, there I was.
[01:57:33.680 --> 01:57:40.680]  And I'm looking for a precedent to finally, the second time around before him the
[01:57:40.680 --> 01:57:48.680]  next day on a video presentation, he said, oh, well, thank you for pointing that out.
[01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:51.680]  Yeah, except now he's throwing you in jail without lawful authority.
[01:57:51.680 --> 01:57:53.680]  What are you going to do for it?
[01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:58.680]  The question is whether or not his act was an actual judicial act in that case.
[01:57:58.680 --> 01:58:05.680]  If it was something completely not authorized, then how can it be a judicial function?
[01:58:05.680 --> 01:58:10.680]  So that would make him liable in a lawsuit.
[01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:12.680]  All right, Jim, I appreciate you calling in, man.
[01:58:12.680 --> 01:58:14.680]  Sorry, but we are out of time.
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