[00:00.000 --> 00:08.040] This is the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist updates, online [00:08.040 --> 00:09.760] at thelibertybeat.com. [00:09.760 --> 00:14.640] I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Thursday, January 15, 2015. [00:14.640 --> 00:16.840] Gold opened today at $1,254.25. [00:16.840 --> 00:19.000] Silver opened at $17.11.28. [00:19.000 --> 00:25.120] And Bitcoin is trading around $219.33. [00:25.120 --> 00:29.560] Today's precious metal price is brought to you by Roberts and Roberts Brokers Incorporated. [00:29.560 --> 00:36.800] Pay with Bitcoin and use coupon code BITCOIN for free shipping online, rrbi.co, or by [00:36.800 --> 00:40.960] phone 800-874-9760. [00:40.960 --> 00:45.560] The Liberty Beat is sponsored by eFoodsDirect, redefining the way you think about storable [00:45.560 --> 00:46.560] food. 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[01:25.960 --> 01:29.680] While it has been demonstrated that drugs were in fact trafficked through the Silk Road, [01:29.680 --> 01:33.840] charges of conspiracy to traffic and hacking software and stolen passports have yet to [01:33.840 --> 01:36.160] be substantiated by the government. [01:36.160 --> 01:39.840] Even if the prosecution proves that drugs, fraudulent documents, and hacking software [01:39.840 --> 01:44.260] services were trafficked through Silk Road, they must still demonstrate that at the time [01:44.260 --> 01:48.840] of the alleged illegal activity, Ulbrich was acting as Thread Pirate Roberts, the Silk [01:48.840 --> 01:50.600] Road administrator. [01:50.600 --> 01:54.440] During the late afternoon, the prosecution questioned Der Jagen on the specifics of how [01:54.440 --> 01:56.320] the government arrested Ulbrich. [01:56.320 --> 02:01.400] Der Jagen said the DHS can talk to the plan to get Ulbrich in a public place with internet [02:01.400 --> 02:05.960] to catch him chatting online with the undercover agent as Thread Pirate Roberts. [02:05.960 --> 02:09.500] The government's charges against Ulbrich depend on their ability to prove that Ulbrich was [02:09.500 --> 02:11.520] indeed Thread Pirate Roberts. [02:11.520 --> 02:15.880] To secure that evidence, the arresting agents were instructed to pull the laptop first before [02:15.880 --> 02:16.880] grabbing Ulbrich. [02:16.880 --> 02:21.400] Today's broadcast of the Liberty Beat is made possible by Central Texas Gunworks, your [02:21.400 --> 02:25.440] online source for firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition. [02:25.440 --> 02:28.280] They take major credit cards and now accept bitcoin. [02:28.280 --> 02:32.600] Visit them online, shop.centraltexascuntworks.com. [02:32.600 --> 02:37.240] Support for the Liberty Beat also comes from My Magic Mud, detoxifying tooth powder, the [02:37.240 --> 02:39.960] most effective and affordable dental care around. [02:39.960 --> 02:44.080] Get a $150 application jar at MyMagicMud.com. [02:44.080 --> 02:49.080] This is the Liberty Beat for Thursday, January 15, 2015. [02:49.080 --> 02:51.520] Check out the website at thelibertybeat.com. [03:19.080 --> 03:31.520] Check out the website at thelibertybeat.com. [03:31.520 --> 03:56.360] Howdy, howdy. [03:56.360 --> 04:04.360] This is Randy Colton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, on this Thursday, the 15th day [04:04.360 --> 04:07.360] of January 2015. [04:07.360 --> 04:17.720] I was in Austin most of the week, and I was preparing a white paper for the legislature. [04:17.720 --> 04:24.120] Since the legislature's going into session, there's some statutory changes I was looking [04:24.120 --> 04:32.880] for, and it seems like every time I look at the code very closely, I find things that [04:32.880 --> 04:43.280] I had missed before, and here I found something very distressing, and what I'm going to talk [04:43.280 --> 04:51.040] about now is going to be a little bit complex, so kind of hang on to your seat. [04:51.040 --> 05:03.520] I'll try not to run away from everyone with it, but there's something in the code that [05:03.520 --> 05:11.120] renders the code clearly in violation of federal law. [05:11.120 --> 05:18.560] No one in Texas who's been prosecuted since 2007, at the very least, has been prosecuted [05:18.560 --> 05:21.080] in accordance with law. [05:21.080 --> 05:31.000] In 2011, there was a change to, I'm sorry, 2007, there was a change to 14.06, Code of [05:31.000 --> 05:34.040] Criminal Procedure. [05:34.040 --> 05:43.160] This is a primary statute that we've used for years, and it's called, let's see, let's [05:43.160 --> 05:52.680] find it here, 14.06 is the one that requires a arresting officer to take a person directly [05:52.680 --> 05:55.680] to the nearest magistrate. [05:55.680 --> 05:58.280] There we go. [05:58.280 --> 06:02.880] Must take offender before magistrate. [06:02.880 --> 06:09.560] What it says is, except as otherwise provided in this article, in each case enumerated in [06:09.560 --> 06:15.440] this code, the person making the arrest or person having custody of the person arrested [06:15.440 --> 06:20.480] shall take the person arrested or have him taken without a necessary delay, but not later [06:20.480 --> 06:26.200] than 48 hours after the person is arrested, before the magistrate who may have ordered [06:26.200 --> 06:31.720] the arrest, before some magistrate of the county, where the arrest was made without [06:31.720 --> 06:37.620] an order, or to provide more expeditiously to the person arrested, the warning is described [06:37.620 --> 06:46.080] in Article 1517 of this code, before a magistrate in any other county of this code, period. [06:46.080 --> 06:53.680] The magistrate shall immediately perform the duties described in Article 15.17 of this [06:53.680 --> 06:54.680] code. [06:54.680 --> 07:00.640] I want to know who the moron is that put that sentence in the code. [07:00.640 --> 07:08.240] That rendered the Texas Penal Code in violation of constitutional law. [07:08.240 --> 07:16.240] That sentence completely negated Chapter 16 Code of Criminal Procedure. [07:16.240 --> 07:29.640] And here's the problem, 1517, essentially 1517A, Chapter 1517, Chapter 15 goes through [07:29.640 --> 07:39.400] a person arrested and there are no criminal charges anticipated, or to a person arrested [07:39.400 --> 07:49.800] with a warrant, specifically Chapter 1517 goes to a person who has been arrested and [07:49.800 --> 07:53.040] criminal charges are not anticipated. [07:53.040 --> 08:00.000] If you're arrested and held on suspicion, if you're arrested and held as a material [08:00.000 --> 08:07.360] witness, or if you're in protective custody, they're required to be taken before a magistrate. [08:07.360 --> 08:17.840] And I have outlined paragraph A. Paragraph A is about a page and a half of one huge paragraph [08:17.840 --> 08:23.840] that's almost impossible for a human being to read and I think that was done on purpose. [08:23.840 --> 08:32.640] If ever there was a paragraph that was intended to be misread and misinterpreted, this is [08:32.640 --> 08:33.640] the one. [08:33.640 --> 08:40.400] Now let me read it, outlined, duties of arresting officer and magistrate. [08:40.400 --> 08:46.480] In each case enumerated in this code, the person making the arrest or the person having [08:46.480 --> 08:54.080] custody of the person arrested shall without unnecessary delay, but not later than 48 hours [08:54.080 --> 08:56.240] after the person is arrested. [08:56.240 --> 09:04.360] That should sound real familiar because I just read it in 14.06, shall, but not later [09:04.360 --> 09:09.400] than 48 hours after the person is arrested, take the person arrested or have him taken [09:09.400 --> 09:14.800] before some magistrate of the county, where the accused was arrested or to provide more [09:14.800 --> 09:16.720] expeditions to the person arrested. [09:16.720 --> 09:24.400] The warning is described by this article before a magistrate in any other county of this state. [09:24.400 --> 09:30.320] The arrested person may be taken before the magistrate in person or the image of the arrested [09:30.320 --> 09:36.240] person may be presented to the magistrate by means of an electronic broadcast system. [09:36.240 --> 09:42.000] The magistrate shall inform in clear language the person arrested either in person or through [09:42.000 --> 09:49.520] the electronic broadcast system of the accusation against him and of the affidavit filed therewith [09:49.520 --> 09:53.720] of his right to retain counsel, of his right to remain silent, of his right to have an [09:53.720 --> 09:59.680] attorney present during the interview with peace officers or attorneys representing the [09:59.680 --> 10:07.680] state, of his right to terminate the interview at any time and of his right to have an examining [10:07.680 --> 10:11.760] trial. [10:11.760 --> 10:14.320] It goes on down and lists a bunch of other things. [10:14.320 --> 10:18.240] The magistrate shall also inform the person arrested, the person has the right to request [10:18.240 --> 10:20.320] the appointment of counsel. [10:20.320 --> 10:29.840] This essentially follows part of chapter 16, which we'll get to in a little bit. [10:29.840 --> 10:34.600] But there's, I'm going to skip down to paragraph nine. [10:34.600 --> 10:42.200] The magistrate shall allow the person arrested reasonable time and opportunity to consult [10:42.200 --> 10:48.220] counsel and shall after determined whether the person is currently on bail for a separate [10:48.220 --> 10:57.320] criminal offense, admit the person arrested to bail if allowed by law. [10:57.320 --> 11:04.460] And that if allowed by law part is really important. [11:04.460 --> 11:13.920] Now we're going to go to an article 17.05, when bail is taken. [11:13.920 --> 11:22.180] A bail bond is entered into before a magistrate upon an examination of the criminal accusation [11:22.180 --> 11:27.540] and before a judge upon on application for habeas corporates was taken from the wheel [11:27.540 --> 11:36.760] relator by a peace officer authorized by 17, 20, 21, 22, 17, 20, 21, 22 are specific situations [11:36.760 --> 11:40.880] where the police officer can admit the person to bail and not arrest him. [11:40.880 --> 11:45.600] If he's been arrested and brought to the jail, then these don't apply. [11:45.600 --> 11:56.840] The one that counts is by a, a bail bond is entered into before a magistrate in one circumstance [11:56.840 --> 12:05.040] upon examination of a criminal accusation, I'm sorry, a bail bond is entered into before [12:05.040 --> 12:10.000] a magistrate upon an examination of a criminal accusation. [12:10.000 --> 12:23.440] Now 15 17 says that the magistrate shall allow the person arrested that the magistrate shall [12:23.440 --> 12:30.360] inform in clear language person arrested either through, either in person or through electronic [12:30.360 --> 12:34.760] broadcast system of the accusation against him in any affidavit therewith of his right [12:34.760 --> 12:39.920] to retain counsel, his right to remain silent, his right to have an attorney present and [12:39.920 --> 12:44.800] interview with peace, peace officers or attorneys representing the state have his right to terminate [12:44.800 --> 12:54.760] the interview at any time and of his right to have an examining trial with the current [12:54.760 --> 12:57.520] state of the code. [12:57.520 --> 13:04.720] When the person is arrested, he's taken before a magistrate. [13:04.720 --> 13:14.560] And for 800 years, the magistrate was required to hold an examining trial and make a determination [13:14.560 --> 13:16.520] of probable cause. [13:16.520 --> 13:23.760] And once a order was issued under 16.17 code of criminal procedure showing that the magistrate [13:23.760 --> 13:32.480] had found probable cause, then he was authorized to set bail. [13:32.480 --> 13:37.040] The officer can't set bail if he doesn't find probable cause. [13:37.040 --> 13:43.960] And according to 1705, the only time bail can be set is by a magistrate after an examining [13:43.960 --> 13:48.280] trial or by a judge in habeas corpus. [13:48.280 --> 13:50.960] So there's no habeas corpus filed here. [13:50.960 --> 13:54.320] So the only way to get bail is an examining trial. [13:54.320 --> 14:02.400] So by the code, if you're arrested without a warrant, you have been denied bail necessarily [14:02.400 --> 14:07.380] because they no longer hold examining trials at all. [14:07.380 --> 14:15.520] And here's the problem with that, a police officer under 14.01 has the authority to make [14:15.520 --> 14:20.720] an arrest without a warrant for an on-site offense. [14:20.720 --> 14:27.840] Now if you had a warrant, the only way to get a warrant is to prepare a criminal accusation, [14:27.840 --> 14:35.240] present it to a magistrate and have an examining trial wherein the magistrate examines into [14:35.240 --> 14:38.800] the evidence and makes a determination probable cause. [14:38.800 --> 14:42.600] If he finds probable cause, then he issues a warrant. [14:42.600 --> 14:48.000] And once the person's arrested with or without that warrant, he's to be taken back before [14:48.000 --> 14:54.400] that same magistrate or another magistrate of the county if that magistrate isn't available. [14:54.400 --> 15:01.760] That was the reference in 14.06 to the magistrate before whom the order was issued, order meaning [15:01.760 --> 15:06.120] the arrest warrant. [15:06.120 --> 15:16.240] So the purpose of that is because when the original examining trial occurred in the matter [15:16.240 --> 15:22.000] of the issuance of an arrest warrant, it was necessarily ex parte. [15:22.000 --> 15:25.760] If it wasn't ex parte, then the person was standing in front of the judge and he wouldn't [15:25.760 --> 15:32.800] have to issue an order that orders any police officer to arrest this person and bring him [15:32.800 --> 15:35.000] before me. [15:35.000 --> 15:38.800] If you read your warrant, that's what they say. [15:38.800 --> 15:43.280] If he's already before the person, there's no point in a warrant. [15:43.280 --> 15:47.480] So that's my place. [15:47.480 --> 15:48.960] Okay. [15:48.960 --> 15:54.640] Person is arrested, he's taken before a magistrate, arrested without a warrant, there is no order. [15:54.640 --> 15:57.920] There's been no determination of probable cause. [15:57.920 --> 16:04.480] And according to 14.06, 14.06 used to require that the person be taken before some magistrate [16:04.480 --> 16:09.960] and didn't have this rest of them that told the magistrate what to do because chapter [16:09.960 --> 16:13.000] 16 told him what to do. [16:13.000 --> 16:16.800] Chapter 16 starts out with 16.01. [16:16.800 --> 16:32.720] If I can find it here, 16.01, got it right here, there we go, 16.01. [16:32.720 --> 16:33.720] Examining trial. [16:33.720 --> 16:39.600] When the accused has been brought before a magistrate for an examining trial, that officer [16:39.600 --> 16:47.440] shall proceed to examine into the truth of the accusation made, allowing the accused [16:47.440 --> 16:50.440] however sufficient time to procure counts. [16:50.440 --> 17:02.760] And okay, I hear the music, this is Randy Kelton, ever Steve? 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[19:48.960 --> 19:57.360] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking about [19:57.360 --> 20:06.840] white paper about how the legislature really screwed up the code. [20:06.840 --> 20:16.560] Under 2.10, 2.11, 2.10 establishes the duty of the magistrate to keep the peace in the [20:16.560 --> 20:25.040] county by all legal means, 2.11, the magistrate sits for the purpose of examining into a criminal [20:25.040 --> 20:28.840] accusation that is an examining court. [20:28.840 --> 20:31.640] That refers to Chapter 16. [20:31.640 --> 20:44.720] 14.06 used to refer to Chapter 16, but prosecutors snuck in there and conned some moron legislator [20:44.720 --> 20:50.040] into changing the law so there is no longer any such thing as an examining trial performed [20:50.040 --> 20:53.400] anywhere. [20:53.400 --> 20:58.880] Not an examining trial, there is no determination of probable cause. [20:58.880 --> 21:06.880] Here's how it works, a police officer, when he observes a crime or has reason to believe [21:06.880 --> 21:13.000] that a felony has been committed and the person who he has reason to believe committed the [21:13.000 --> 21:19.160] felony is likely to escape, he can arrest without a warrant. [21:19.160 --> 21:24.840] But he must take the person directly to the magistrate and explain himself. [21:24.840 --> 21:32.520] The magistrate has jurisdiction to hold an examining trial based on a criminal affidavit [21:32.520 --> 21:38.840] from some citizen, whether he's a police officer or any other credible person. [21:38.840 --> 21:43.640] That gives the magistrate subject matter jurisdiction to hold an examining trial. [21:43.640 --> 21:51.520] But a criminal complaint, the magistrate has no subject matter jurisdiction to hold anything. [21:51.520 --> 21:56.640] So once the complaint is filed with the magistrate, if you look in the code, every reference to [21:56.640 --> 22:04.360] filing a complaint directs the complaint to some magistrate, there is nothing in the code [22:04.360 --> 22:09.120] that directs a complaint to a prosecutor or to a police officer. [22:09.120 --> 22:12.360] All complaints are directed to some magistrate. [22:12.360 --> 22:16.560] The magistrate makes a determination of probable cause. [22:16.560 --> 22:25.760] Then under 17.30, he's to seal all documents had in the hearing, including any affidavit [22:25.760 --> 22:31.840] statement of the witness because in the code, the witness is given an opportunity to give [22:31.840 --> 22:36.000] a statement before any testimony is given, got a whole bunch of stuff in there to protect [22:36.000 --> 22:37.000] your rights. [22:37.000 --> 22:41.880] And then all of those documents are to be sealed up in an envelope. [22:41.880 --> 22:47.680] The name of the magistrate is to be written across the seal of the envelope. [22:47.680 --> 22:50.880] And it is to be forwarded to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction. [22:50.880 --> 22:55.480] That almost never happens. [22:55.480 --> 23:00.040] It certainly never happens after an examining trial because examining trials never take [23:00.040 --> 23:05.320] place because of this legislation. [23:05.320 --> 23:14.760] And with that is jurisdiction never gets transferred to the court that would normally have jurisdiction [23:14.760 --> 23:21.860] because the court only has a complaint, does not have a determination of probable cause. [23:21.860 --> 23:28.960] So no one who's been prosecuted at least since 2007, but from my personal experience for [23:28.960 --> 23:41.360] the last 20 years has been properly prosecuted because there never was an order under 16.17 [23:41.360 --> 23:45.840] showing that probable cause had been found. [23:45.840 --> 23:46.840] That's my story. [23:46.840 --> 23:47.840] I'm sticking to it. [23:47.840 --> 23:52.880] I've got a caller, Jeff from Mississippi, I want to take him because he's been in pretty [23:52.880 --> 23:56.760] serious issue in Mississippi and I want to hear what he has to say. [23:56.760 --> 24:03.680] If we run out of callers, we'll get back to this later, the call board is open 512-646-1984. [24:03.680 --> 24:07.120] So if you have a question or comment, give us a call. [24:07.120 --> 24:09.360] We're going to Jeff in Mississippi. [24:09.360 --> 24:10.360] Hello, Jeff. [24:10.360 --> 24:14.120] Hey, Randy, thanks for having me on the show. [24:14.120 --> 24:15.440] You are welcome. [24:15.440 --> 24:21.000] What happened with the sick judge? [24:21.000 --> 24:26.200] Probably the most fun time that I've had in this case so far. [24:26.200 --> 24:32.160] My hearing was set for Tuesday and I went in Monday to pick up some paperwork and noticed [24:32.160 --> 24:34.560] that the court was closed. [24:34.560 --> 24:40.080] The entire building was closed because here in Mississippi, they only open a term up for [24:40.080 --> 24:44.320] two weeks and then they move on to a different district. [24:44.320 --> 24:49.600] So you can walk into the clerk and get a passport, but all of the court rooms and the lobby and [24:49.600 --> 24:52.560] everything is shut down, it's all dark inside. [24:52.560 --> 24:57.920] So I walked in and it was dark and I went into the clerk's office and said, hey, I got [24:57.920 --> 25:00.760] a hearing here tomorrow, what's going on? [25:00.760 --> 25:07.840] And she accidentally, I guess, said that, well, court right now is in a completely other [25:07.840 --> 25:14.040] county, it's term is somewhere else and we're not going to start up for two weeks. [25:14.040 --> 25:18.320] And I said, but I've got a hearing tomorrow and her eyes got really big like all of a [25:18.320 --> 25:22.120] sudden she knew who I was and she goes, oh yeah, we're going to have your hearing here [25:22.120 --> 25:25.400] tomorrow, especially for you. [25:25.400 --> 25:30.280] And I thought to myself, they're going to bring a court reporter, a judge, a district [25:30.280 --> 25:36.920] attorney, and open up a courtroom just for me and possibly some other people for motions? [25:36.920 --> 25:39.240] I don't think so. [25:39.240 --> 25:44.480] And so I didn't believe her and I actually panicked because I figured I'd be walking [25:44.480 --> 25:48.560] into an empty building and I don't like to walk into empty buildings. [25:48.560 --> 25:54.800] So I panicked and I call, of course I emailed you, but the first thing I did was I called [25:54.800 --> 26:01.440] a Baptist preacher and I told him I was afraid and could he come to the courthouse with me? [26:01.440 --> 26:03.160] And then the next thing I did- [26:03.160 --> 26:04.160] Okay. [26:04.160 --> 26:05.160] Wait a minute. [26:05.160 --> 26:09.520] When the Baptist preacher got there, were you saved? [26:09.520 --> 26:10.520] Yes. [26:10.520 --> 26:11.520] Okay. [26:11.520 --> 26:12.520] Absolutely. [26:12.520 --> 26:13.520] Absolutely. [26:13.520 --> 26:18.880] And that happened a few years ago anyway. [26:18.880 --> 26:22.720] I also called the television station and told a reporter that I was afraid that I was going [26:22.720 --> 26:25.800] to get kidnapped if I walked in there. [26:25.800 --> 26:32.680] And so we show up, me and the preacher show up and sure enough the courtroom, the courthouse [26:32.680 --> 26:39.400] is empty and there are a couple of bailiffs standing around and they asked me my name [26:39.400 --> 26:43.920] and I said, yeah, that's my name and they said, hey, your hearing's been canceled. [26:43.920 --> 26:50.240] Now go figure, of course it's been canceled, it was never set to begin with. [26:50.240 --> 26:55.240] But I said, hey, I'm going to need a continuance and they said, well, we don't have any paperwork. [26:55.240 --> 26:58.280] And so, and there weren't any clerks in there that time. [26:58.280 --> 27:02.480] So me and the preacher just left and of course I sent an email. [27:02.480 --> 27:08.640] My attorney wasn't there so I sent an email asking where she was, why she wasn't there. [27:08.640 --> 27:13.360] Well, she emails me back and said that she was walking around the courthouse looking [27:13.360 --> 27:22.160] for me and she was trying to intimate that I had not shown up for my hearing. [27:22.160 --> 27:26.160] And I wrote back and said, no, actually I had a Baptist preacher standing with me in [27:26.160 --> 27:27.480] the lobby. [27:27.480 --> 27:34.120] And then at that same time, the television reporter called her and so she wrote me back [27:34.120 --> 27:39.200] an email saying, you just told the television station that you were going to get kidnapped. [27:39.200 --> 27:41.400] So I kind of chuckled about that. [27:41.400 --> 27:46.280] But then she turned around and reversed her story and said, yeah, I never bothered to [27:46.280 --> 27:51.600] drive into Starkville and we just didn't come into the courthouse because the judge was [27:51.600 --> 27:52.600] sick. [27:52.600 --> 27:55.120] I think they're making that up. [27:55.120 --> 28:03.440] And so as of now, I still don't have a continuance but I did get the, I did get my attorney to [28:03.440 --> 28:07.720] admit that I was there and that they weren't. [28:07.720 --> 28:09.080] And that is all that's happened. [28:09.080 --> 28:13.560] I'm sitting in a motel staring at the walls otherwise. [28:13.560 --> 28:18.240] You absolutely need to bill your attorney for your time. [28:18.240 --> 28:20.280] Okay. [28:20.280 --> 28:24.280] Your attorney clearly was setting you up. [28:24.280 --> 28:25.800] Uh huh. [28:25.800 --> 28:28.200] So bill her. [28:28.200 --> 28:29.320] Okay. [28:29.320 --> 28:34.440] She should have contacted you and told you not to come and not to sit a week aside or [28:34.440 --> 28:40.880] two weeks sitting in a motel room waiting for a hearing that's not going to happen. [28:40.880 --> 28:46.640] At this point, you might look at filing a RICO suit. [28:46.640 --> 28:49.880] Okay. [28:49.880 --> 28:55.320] Did you have the bit that, okay, so you have the emails or she's... [28:55.320 --> 29:01.520] Now what I, I had emailed Eddie also because I talked to him, I've gotten to where I call [29:01.520 --> 29:04.440] him on Mondays and you on Thursdays. [29:04.440 --> 29:12.600] And he wanted me to run down and file an affidavit immediately after there wasn't any court. [29:12.600 --> 29:19.520] And to file an affidavit saying that I just got sent away without a continuance. [29:19.520 --> 29:20.520] And so I did. [29:20.520 --> 29:29.480] I went, got an affidavit, got it notarized and put it in my file. [29:29.480 --> 29:35.720] But you have an email of your lawyer saying that she was walking around the courthouse [29:35.720 --> 29:37.720] and couldn't find you. [29:37.720 --> 29:42.000] No, she had told the television reporter that. [29:42.000 --> 29:44.000] Oh, wonderful. [29:44.000 --> 29:46.240] That's even better. [29:46.240 --> 29:47.240] Hang on. [29:47.240 --> 29:54.880] That's Elton Davis-Stevens, rule of law radio, I call in number 512-646-1984. [29:54.880 --> 29:55.880] We'll be right back. [29:55.880 --> 29:56.880] This is getting better. [29:56.880 --> 29:57.880] That too is untight. 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[32:36.400 --> 32:40.400] You can get your own copy of this invaluable material by going to ruleoflawradio.com and [32:40.400 --> 32:41.720] ordering your copy today. [32:41.720 --> 32:44.920] By ordering now, you'll receive a copy of Eddie's book, The Texas Transportation Code, [32:44.920 --> 32:49.480] The Law Versus the Lie, video and audio of the original 2009 seminar, hundreds of research [32:49.480 --> 32:51.440] documents and other useful resource material. [32:51.440 --> 32:55.760] Learn how to fight for your rights with the help of this material from ruleoflawradio.com. [32:55.760 --> 33:07.400] Order your copy today and together we can have the free society we all want and deserve. [33:07.400 --> 33:27.320] Yeah, Mr. Officer, you're taking the line ahead, won't you follow the law of the land? [33:27.320 --> 33:40.920] Yes. [33:40.920 --> 33:56.920] When you gonna stop abuse, your power [33:56.920 --> 34:02.920] So please Mr. Macklin, each officer has to abuse the power [34:02.920 --> 34:07.920] Send a request to the leader, the captain of all officers [34:07.920 --> 34:13.920] Tell them to uphold the law, abuse don't abuse their power [34:13.920 --> 34:17.920] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, the new of our radio [34:17.920 --> 34:19.920] And we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi [34:19.920 --> 34:27.920] So Jeff, the lawyer, the one that had you arrested [34:27.920 --> 34:35.920] Told a TV reporter that she was at the courthouse looking for you and couldn't find you [34:35.920 --> 34:40.920] I don't get internet in my motel room so I have to run to the library [34:40.920 --> 34:43.920] So I'm remembering it the best that I can [34:43.920 --> 34:48.920] I do have that on an email but it's not from her, it's from him [34:48.920 --> 34:50.920] That's good enough [34:50.920 --> 34:54.920] Okay, he emailed me back and said I just talked to your attorney [34:54.920 --> 34:59.920] And she said that she was down at the courthouse right now looking for you [34:59.920 --> 35:06.920] And so then I emailed her and said no, me and the Baptist preacher just left [35:06.920 --> 35:11.920] And then that must have shocked her because then she emailed me back and said [35:11.920 --> 35:16.920] Well, the judge said that he was sick so I didn't even bother coming in today [35:16.920 --> 35:22.920] So she lied to the TV reporter, so this is clear you were set up [35:22.920 --> 35:23.920] Yeah [35:23.920 --> 35:26.920] This is evidence from a third party [35:26.920 --> 35:27.920] Okay [35:27.920 --> 35:29.920] This should get a RICO [35:29.920 --> 35:31.920] This is the same lawyer that arrested you [35:31.920 --> 35:34.920] You absolutely have to sue your lawyer [35:34.920 --> 35:38.920] And so everybody listening understands [35:38.920 --> 35:42.920] Jeff has already been tried and convicted in appeal [35:42.920 --> 35:50.920] It's been a year in prison and appealed and had it thrown out on appeal for lack of adequate counsel [35:50.920 --> 35:55.920] Now he has counsel trying to actually having him arrested [35:55.920 --> 36:00.920] Now what was it that prompted the lawyer to have you arrested? [36:00.920 --> 36:02.920] Well, we don't know [36:02.920 --> 36:09.920] She sent me a threatening email saying that I needed to appear at the courthouse on the 20th [36:09.920 --> 36:13.920] And I responded back that my trial is not until the 27th [36:13.920 --> 36:17.920] So I don't want to come in on the 20th if I don't have to [36:17.920 --> 36:22.920] And then she said that you will be arrested if you do not show up [36:22.920 --> 36:26.920] And so I showed up on the 20th and I got arrested anyway [36:26.920 --> 36:31.920] Put in jail, but there was never a warrant for my arrest [36:31.920 --> 36:34.920] And I never had a hearing, they just released me [36:34.920 --> 36:38.920] And so I wrote her an email saying why did you have me arrested? [36:38.920 --> 36:43.920] And she responded I didn't have you arrested, the judge had you arrested [36:43.920 --> 36:47.920] And he was going to keep you in jail for 20 months and deny you bond [36:47.920 --> 36:54.920] And I had to come in and convince him to let you bond out and release you [36:54.920 --> 36:57.920] So she was making it sound like she was my savior [36:57.920 --> 37:05.920] And so apparently they reinstated my bond, but I don't have an order and I never went to a hearing [37:05.920 --> 37:08.920] So she threw the judge under the bus? [37:08.920 --> 37:10.920] Exactly [37:10.920 --> 37:12.920] Wonderful [37:12.920 --> 37:14.920] And I've got that in writing [37:14.920 --> 37:16.920] Oh wonderful [37:16.920 --> 37:20.920] So this is just prime for a RICO suit [37:20.920 --> 37:27.920] RICO suit concerning them forcing you, forcing a whole bunch of people [37:27.920 --> 37:34.920] To come down to the courthouse and sit there for a week or two weeks and not have a trial [37:34.920 --> 37:40.920] In order to punish you if you dare to ask for a trial [37:40.920 --> 37:43.920] That will get you into RICO [37:43.920 --> 37:50.920] And then you can take the lawyer in and the judge in both for their behaviors [37:50.920 --> 37:52.920] Good [37:52.920 --> 38:00.920] And this might get you a good federal investigation over this behavior [38:00.920 --> 38:04.920] You could wind up changing everything [38:04.920 --> 38:09.920] So do you have a date for your trial yet? [38:09.920 --> 38:16.920] I have a date for my trial, it's the 27th, but I still don't have a date for the hearing [38:16.920 --> 38:23.920] So they're probably going to have the hearing the same day as the trial [38:23.920 --> 38:25.920] They could [38:25.920 --> 38:29.920] Then just blow it off, go through the same routine [38:29.920 --> 38:33.920] And it'll be interesting what they do [38:33.920 --> 38:37.920] Did they give you the maximum they could have last time? [38:37.920 --> 38:38.920] Yes [38:38.920 --> 38:43.920] Okay, so they can't sentence you again because you've already served the time [38:43.920 --> 38:45.920] Exactly [38:45.920 --> 38:49.920] So it'll be interesting to see what they try to do [38:49.920 --> 38:50.920] Okay [38:50.920 --> 38:54.920] But RICO them first [38:54.920 --> 39:02.920] I had a judge in Oklahoma tell me once that when you file a RICO suit against a governmental agency [39:02.920 --> 39:07.920] It's like dropping an atomic bomb [39:07.920 --> 39:09.920] Really? [39:09.920 --> 39:11.920] Oh yeah, they get real excited [39:11.920 --> 39:14.920] Because now you bring the feds in [39:14.920 --> 39:18.920] You start making all these accusations to the feds [39:18.920 --> 39:23.920] And the feds aren't as likely to cover the state's behinds [39:23.920 --> 39:27.920] Especially when their behavior is this egregious [39:27.920 --> 39:31.920] Okay [39:31.920 --> 39:34.920] So is that it? [39:34.920 --> 39:42.920] Well I just wanted to, you have mentioned before about invoking the powers of a magistrate [39:42.920 --> 39:46.920] But I don't know if that applies to me and I don't know how to do that [39:46.920 --> 39:50.920] But would that be something that would be a good idea for me to start learning how to do? [39:50.920 --> 39:57.920] Well you invoke the power of a magistrate by filing a criminal accusation with a judge [39:57.920 --> 40:05.920] When you file a criminal accusation with a judge, his judge's hat comes off, his magistrate's hats and coat goes on [40:05.920 --> 40:10.920] Except apparently in Texas now [40:10.920 --> 40:18.920] It appears they've changed the law, I'll have to do some more research on 210211 [40:18.920 --> 40:22.920] Now they've changed the law concerning an arrest [40:22.920 --> 40:29.920] The criminal complaint before a magistrate should still invoke his duty as a magistrate to hold an examining trial [40:29.920 --> 40:33.920] And not this thing they call a magistration [40:33.920 --> 40:38.920] But this specific to Texas law, all of this flows from the federal law [40:38.920 --> 40:42.920] And the federal law requires a determination of probable cause [40:42.920 --> 40:44.920] And in Texas they've stopped doing that [40:44.920 --> 40:50.920] And I will be preparing a RICO suit against Texas [40:50.920 --> 40:55.920] Because we have 99.6% conviction rate [40:55.920 --> 41:01.920] Everybody arrested is prosecuted out of hand with no determination of probable cause of any kind [41:01.920 --> 41:05.920] That means they don't have any jurisdiction, then they just process them through the system [41:05.920 --> 41:11.920] They've turned the criminal justice system into an unauthorized tax [41:11.920 --> 41:18.920] But I don't know about Mississippi, I'm not that up to speed on Mississippi code [41:18.920 --> 41:25.920] So you'd have to go through their criminal procedure code [41:25.920 --> 41:28.920] Read it a couple of times [41:28.920 --> 41:32.920] The pieces start to fit together, the second time you read it the pieces start fitting together [41:32.920 --> 41:37.920] Then you know more about what they're doing than they do [41:37.920 --> 41:41.920] Okay, I've read it once so I'll read it again [41:41.920 --> 41:44.920] Yeah, the second time is much better [41:44.920 --> 41:48.920] That's when you start stitching the pieces together [41:48.920 --> 41:52.920] Okay, I'll let you get on to another caller and I will call you back next week [41:52.920 --> 41:54.920] Okay, thank you Jeff [41:54.920 --> 41:56.920] Thank you [41:56.920 --> 42:00.920] Okay, now we're going to Miss Frances in Colorado [42:00.920 --> 42:02.920] Hello Miss Frances [42:02.920 --> 42:05.920] Hi Randy, happy new year, thanks for taking my call [42:05.920 --> 42:09.920] You are welcome, it's been a while since we've heard from you [42:09.920 --> 42:15.920] I know, sometimes I just get to where I've got so many things going on I can't hardly talk about it [42:15.920 --> 42:19.920] So I'm kind of drilling down on a number of different things [42:19.920 --> 42:23.920] But right now I had somebody call me about the six year statute of limitations [42:23.920 --> 42:27.920] And I know you've talked about that before with these foreclosures [42:27.920 --> 42:29.920] Are you familiar with that one? [42:29.920 --> 42:33.920] Yes I am, and we've been looking at those just here recently [42:33.920 --> 42:45.920] I can't speak to Colorado law, but we just had an issue come up where someone had filed bankruptcy [42:45.920 --> 42:50.920] And we were discussing statute of limitations [42:50.920 --> 42:57.920] Statute of limitations clearly begins to run once there is a notice of acceleration [42:57.920 --> 43:00.920] That's the date it starts [43:00.920 --> 43:13.920] And the claimant has four years in Texas, six years in Colorado to exercise the claim [43:13.920 --> 43:17.920] Okay, to exercise the claim [43:17.920 --> 43:28.920] Yes, they have either to foreclose or if it's a judicial state to file a petition for foreclosure [43:28.920 --> 43:32.920] It goes to the date they file [43:32.920 --> 43:37.920] Once they file the statute of limitations, the clock stops running [43:37.920 --> 43:40.920] Or once they foreclose [43:40.920 --> 43:43.920] But the question was what we told them [43:43.920 --> 43:47.920] We're about to go to break, so we'll pick this up on the other side [43:47.920 --> 43:51.920] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, we'll have our radio or call in number [43:51.920 --> 43:54.920] 512-646-1984 [43:54.920 --> 43:59.920] We'll be right back [44:24.920 --> 44:29.920] Our Australian emu oil, lotion candles, olive oil, soaps, and colloidal silver and gold [44:29.920 --> 44:33.920] Call 512-264-4043 [44:33.920 --> 44:36.920] Or find us online at naturespureorganics.com [44:36.920 --> 44:42.920] That's 512-264-4043 naturespureorganics.com [44:42.920 --> 44:46.920] Don't forget to like us on Facebook for information on events and our products [44:46.920 --> 45:00.920] naturespureorganics.com [45:00.920 --> 45:03.920] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? 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We're Andy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio [46:19.920 --> 46:22.920] and we're talking to Francis in Colorado [46:22.920 --> 46:29.920] The thing we were looking at is what tolls the limitations period [46:29.920 --> 46:39.920] And one thing I would think for certain would toll the limitation period would be a bankruptcy [46:39.920 --> 46:46.920] Because during that period, the lender would be statutorily stopped from filing [46:46.920 --> 46:49.920] through no action of his own [46:49.920 --> 46:59.920] And it would be inappropriate to deny him the right to foreclose [46:59.920 --> 47:03.920] because of something that he had no part in [47:03.920 --> 47:08.920] So I haven't found the case law on that yet, but I would suspect that [47:08.920 --> 47:14.920] the period of a bankruptcy when there was a stay in place [47:14.920 --> 47:20.920] that wouldn't count against the lender, the borrower, lender [47:20.920 --> 47:23.920] I'll get that right in a minute, the lender [47:23.920 --> 47:29.920] And if you sued the lender and got a restraining order [47:29.920 --> 47:33.920] I would think that that wouldn't count against him either [47:33.920 --> 47:38.920] because you can't hold him responsible for not taking an action when he's forbidden to take the action [47:38.920 --> 47:44.920] In this particular case, was there anything done by the borrower [47:44.920 --> 47:53.920] that would statutorily stop the lender from pursuing foreclosure? [47:53.920 --> 47:55.920] Not that I know of [47:55.920 --> 48:04.920] So they got the acceleration notice in July of 2008 [48:04.920 --> 48:08.920] And then the lender finally took her to court [48:08.920 --> 48:20.920] and they got authorization of sale on 11 in November of 2014 [48:20.920 --> 48:22.920] I'll have to check and see if we get any [48:22.920 --> 48:25.920] How did they get into court? [48:25.920 --> 48:32.920] The lender filed the 120 in Colorado, the 120 foreclosure here, non-judicial [48:32.920 --> 48:36.920] Actually, they did go to court [48:36.920 --> 48:44.920] I would think that the filing of the 120 would toll the limitations period [48:44.920 --> 48:51.920] If that was done within the six years, they took action to foreclose [48:51.920 --> 48:58.920] The statute of limitations doesn't go to when you get it done, but when you start it [48:58.920 --> 49:04.920] Okay, so if they sent the acceleration letter in July of 2008 [49:04.920 --> 49:12.920] and they filed after the same date in July of 2014, then that would be over six years [49:12.920 --> 49:20.920] But if they did it during July or before, then they told the period and they made the six years [49:20.920 --> 49:33.920] Right, if that 120 was filed after the July date that the acceleration was sent in 2014 [49:33.920 --> 49:38.920] then it would seem that they exceeded the time limit [49:38.920 --> 49:40.920] Okay [49:40.920 --> 49:45.920] As long as the borrower didn't do anything to hold them up [49:45.920 --> 49:48.920] Okay [49:48.920 --> 49:52.920] Has the borrower taken any action at all? [49:52.920 --> 49:56.920] Yes, and actually we have a friend out here who's [49:56.920 --> 49:59.920] I need to get him turned on to you, he's a retired attorney [49:59.920 --> 50:03.920] and he's helping people at least, at first it was just simply to buy time [50:03.920 --> 50:06.920] and now they're realizing that there's other things to do [50:06.920 --> 50:09.920] and there's constitutional issues that have been brought up here in Colorado [50:09.920 --> 50:13.920] and so he was the one who called me to ask me about the six years [50:13.920 --> 50:19.920] and thanks to you I knew, you know, because I've been on the Friday calls and heard you guys talking about it [50:19.920 --> 50:22.920] so I told him I would call in and find out [50:22.920 --> 50:27.920] and I'm not sure exactly what they've done, I haven't followed this gal's case [50:27.920 --> 50:34.920] as closely as I might have if I hadn't had so many other things on my own plate [50:34.920 --> 50:39.920] but I don't think that she has, but I'm not sure about that [50:39.920 --> 50:44.920] because Bob is pretty good about strategy [50:44.920 --> 50:47.920] and using procedural strategy in order to buy time [50:47.920 --> 50:52.920] so I'm not certain that along the line they didn't actually do something that told them [50:52.920 --> 50:57.920] Well, if she's just defended herself, then that won't affect it [50:57.920 --> 51:00.920] if she's filed bankruptcy it almost certainly will [51:00.920 --> 51:07.920] Well, when I said that, if she filed bankruptcy and got a stay against them [51:07.920 --> 51:16.920] then it would, but if she filed bankruptcy and they didn't try to file a 120 [51:16.920 --> 51:21.920] then they didn't take any action, they can file the 120 while she's in bankruptcy [51:21.920 --> 51:23.920] unless they get a stay [51:23.920 --> 51:33.920] and if there is no stay, then there would be nothing to toll the limitations [51:33.920 --> 51:39.920] I mean the statute of limitations because the judge would have to tell them not to proceed [51:39.920 --> 51:40.920] Right [51:40.920 --> 51:43.920] We get guys all the time, we get banks all the time [51:43.920 --> 51:49.920] try to continue foreclosure once they're in bankruptcy [51:49.920 --> 51:56.920] and if you catch them, if you're paying attention, then you go to the judge [51:56.920 --> 52:01.920] and ask for an automatic stay, but that doesn't always stop them [52:01.920 --> 52:06.920] so you have to get the judge to issue a mandamus [52:06.920 --> 52:12.920] not a mandamus, maybe an order to order them to stay [52:12.920 --> 52:14.920] I hate it when I lose words [52:14.920 --> 52:19.920] and I only lose words after I've slept [52:19.920 --> 52:23.920] I told her I was in a restaurant in Hillsboro, Texas [52:23.920 --> 52:28.920] and this older woman was there and I was talking on the phone, my hearing aid fell out [52:28.920 --> 52:31.920] I told her don't you just hate that and she said yeah I really hate that [52:31.920 --> 52:34.920] I said lose my hearing is about the worst part of getting older [52:34.920 --> 52:41.920] and she said oh no, there's a lot worse things about getting older [52:41.920 --> 52:47.920] then I told her my kids said the worst thing that's happening to me is losing my memory [52:47.920 --> 52:52.920] but that don't bother me because I don't remember anyway [52:52.920 --> 52:54.920] anyway [52:54.920 --> 52:57.920] where were we, I forgot [52:57.920 --> 53:01.920] we were talking about whether or not there was a stay [53:01.920 --> 53:06.920] and what the judge had to file to get the lender to stop the foreclosure [53:06.920 --> 53:12.920] so if the judge hadn't filed an order ordering them not to do something [53:12.920 --> 53:14.920] they would otherwise have a right to do [53:14.920 --> 53:18.920] then they can't claim that anything was told [53:18.920 --> 53:21.920] any limitations was told [53:21.920 --> 53:23.920] so you might have it [53:23.920 --> 53:27.920] you might want to have that lawyer call me [53:27.920 --> 53:33.920] I have a solution we have crafted [53:33.920 --> 53:37.920] that may be better than suing the banks [53:37.920 --> 53:42.920] I helped a lot of people sue banks [53:42.920 --> 53:47.920] and most of them just give up and walk away, you are unusual [53:47.920 --> 53:52.920] most of them just get burned out, it's just too much stress for them [53:52.920 --> 53:55.920] and they eventually walk away [53:55.920 --> 53:59.920] so we crafted another solution [53:59.920 --> 54:06.920] we get a quick claim and then we examine all the, find all the problems with the record [54:06.920 --> 54:08.920] and then we go in and clobber the banks [54:08.920 --> 54:13.920] and if she has a lawyer we don't need a quick claim because her lawyer can do it [54:13.920 --> 54:18.920] and we show all the problems and instead of suing the bank [54:18.920 --> 54:24.920] you go to the bank and offer to make a deal with them [54:24.920 --> 54:30.920] they've got an acceleration and they've got a default amount [54:30.920 --> 54:34.920] show them the problems that they have and ask them to [54:34.920 --> 54:37.920] if there's been a foreclosure to rescind it [54:37.920 --> 54:41.920] if there hasn't been a foreclosure because you've got all these problems [54:41.920 --> 54:44.920] take all the marks off of credit [54:44.920 --> 54:48.920] sell us the note, we'll extinguish it, I've got companies that will buy the note [54:48.920 --> 54:53.920] and you can't buy a note and sell it directly back to someone [54:53.920 --> 54:58.920] there has to be, in Texas there has to be a year delay [54:58.920 --> 55:04.920] so you can't just buy out the note and sell it right back to the borrower [55:04.920 --> 55:08.920] and if the person wants to stay in the property [55:08.920 --> 55:12.920] and intends to stay in the property then you just have to sue them [55:12.920 --> 55:15.920] but if they're willing to get out from under the debt [55:15.920 --> 55:17.920] if that's their biggest problem [55:17.920 --> 55:22.920] then we can force them to turn over the property then capture all their equity [55:22.920 --> 55:25.920] what the bank does is charge enough attorney fees and late fees [55:25.920 --> 55:29.920] that it eats up any possible equity [55:29.920 --> 55:34.920] so you go to a lawyer and he looks at it and there's no equity in the property [55:34.920 --> 55:39.920] so he doesn't want to fight it because there's no money there [55:39.920 --> 55:45.920] but if we go in and force them to toss out all the late fees and the attorney fees [55:45.920 --> 55:49.920] then they get to recapture their equity [55:49.920 --> 55:53.920] I explained that to him in more detail [55:53.920 --> 55:56.920] we've got a lot of things we can throw at them [55:56.920 --> 56:03.920] and what I'll explain to him also is the false fees suit [56:03.920 --> 56:07.920] we haven't really focused on that one but we're about to [56:07.920 --> 56:14.920] and what we're doing now is anybody that their note is under three years old [56:14.920 --> 56:19.920] we run the false fees on them and rescind [56:19.920 --> 56:21.920] it's under three years [56:21.920 --> 56:28.920] I just have a case here from Leslie in Pennsylvania [56:28.920 --> 56:35.920] and it says that under rescind there's no lawsuit, you just rescind it [56:35.920 --> 56:42.920] if you can show more than $35 of fees, improper fees [56:42.920 --> 56:45.920] then you can just rescind [56:45.920 --> 56:49.920] we're claiming all the fees are improper [56:49.920 --> 56:53.920] because at closing he charged all these fees [56:53.920 --> 56:58.920] I know if I go to a mechanic and he charged me all these fees [56:58.920 --> 57:01.920] I'm going to say what the heck is that for [57:01.920 --> 57:05.920] I'm going to want to see that he actually did what he said he did [57:05.920 --> 57:08.920] you go to closing and they give you this HUD 1 settlement statement [57:08.920 --> 57:10.920] it's got all these fees on it [57:10.920 --> 57:13.920] you don't know if all that work was actually done or not [57:13.920 --> 57:20.920] you don't have any documentation to show that the fees that were charged [57:20.920 --> 57:25.920] were not otherwise forbidden to be charged by law [57:25.920 --> 57:30.920] that the services billed for were necessary [57:30.920 --> 57:36.920] that the reason I said not otherwise forbidden to be charged by law [57:36.920 --> 57:41.920] is because all of those actions the lender performs [57:41.920 --> 57:45.920] that is the normal part of doing business [57:45.920 --> 57:49.920] like document preparation [57:49.920 --> 57:53.920] that is intended to be taken out of the interest that you pay [57:53.920 --> 57:55.920] that's why they charge so much interest [57:55.920 --> 57:57.920] they can take this out of the interest [57:57.920 --> 58:03.920] and it's part of the profit to cover the cost [58:03.920 --> 58:07.920] but instead of taking it out of the interest that they receive [58:07.920 --> 58:13.920] they add it to the head of the note and charge interest on it for 30 years [58:13.920 --> 58:17.920] it'll about triple in 30 years for most notes [58:17.920 --> 58:21.920] whatever they stick on there they'll collect back three times [58:21.920 --> 58:25.920] so they stick a bogus fee on there to start with [58:25.920 --> 58:27.920] and then it triples three times [58:27.920 --> 58:30.920] so you're paying it four times [58:30.920 --> 58:36.920] and that's whatever they add extra is the last dollar you pay off [58:36.920 --> 58:41.920] so we just take all of the fees on it [58:41.920 --> 58:43.920] go ahead [58:43.920 --> 58:47.920] can you Skype me your telephone number that you want him to go [58:47.920 --> 58:49.920] be right back [58:49.920 --> 58:53.920] the Bible remains the most popular book in the world [58:53.920 --> 58:57.920] yet countless readers are frustrated because they 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[01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.920] by finding the way you think about sworable food [01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.920] with civil unrest occurring all across the country [01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:51.920] being food secure has never been more important [01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.920] visit eFoodsDirect.com slash Liberty Beat [01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:57.920] or call 800-620-5520 [01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.920] to learn more about food security in a time of crisis [01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.920] in the news, day two of the Ross Ulbrich trial began yesterday morning in New York [01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.920] with the prosecution continuing to question DHS agent [01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:11.920] and apparent Silk Road mole Jared Der Jagen [01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.920] lead prosecutor Sarah Turner presented several screenshots [01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.920] related to criminal activity on the Silk Road [01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:21.920] he asked Der Jagen to explain each exhibit and how it related to illegal activity [01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.920] including the purchase of illicit drugs and fraudulent documents [01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:28.920] while it has been demonstrated that drugs were in fact traffic through the Silk Road [01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:32.920] charges of conspiracy to traffic and hacking software and stolen passports [01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:34.920] has yet to be substantiated by the government [01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:38.920] even if the prosecution proves that drugs, fraudulent documents [01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:41.920] and hacking software services were traffic through Silk Road [01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:45.920] they must still demonstrate that at the time of the alleged illegal activity [01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:49.920] Ulbrich was acting as Dread Pirate Roberts, the Silk Road administrator [01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.920] during the late afternoon the prosecution questioned Der Jagen [01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.920] on the specifics of how the government arrested Ulbrich 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[01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:34.920] support for the Liberty Beat also comes from My Magic Mud [01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.920] detoxifying tooth powder, the most effective and affordable dental care around [01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:42.920] get a $150 application jar at mymagicmud.com [01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:47.920] this is the Liberty Beat for Thursday, January 15, 2015 [01:02:47.920 --> 01:03:14.920] check out the website at thelibertybeat.com [01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:25.920] okay we are back [01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:28.920] Randy Felton, Debra Stevens, Wheel of War Radio [01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:33.920] and we're talking to Francis in Colorado [01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.920] and are you there Francis? [01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:41.920] can you hear me? [01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.920] there we go, now I can hear you, you're kind of breaking up a little bit [01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:48.920] I have Jeff in Maryland [01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:51.920] and Jeff, I don't have a note from a producer [01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:57.920] but normally when Jeff calls in he's commenting on the subject at hand [01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:01.920] so I'm going to bring in Jeff [01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.920] and see what he's got for us, hello Jeff [01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:07.920] good evening [01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:11.920] am I right that you have a comment on point? [01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:14.920] yes I do, the first thing I want to handle with you is [01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:18.920] okay hold on Jeff, you're breaking up really bad [01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:22.920] yeah, I've been breaking up a lot with you too [01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:26.920] I can't even understand you, the connection's too bad [01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.920] can you try calling back in, maybe you'll get a better connection [01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:32.920] yes, yes [01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:35.920] thank you [01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.920] okay [01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:44.920] so we were on, oh yeah we were talking about the false fees [01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:47.920] and rescission [01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:51.920] so that's one of the things we're working on as a solution for people [01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.920] because we're beginning to get a bunch of issues for people [01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.920] the notes are less than three years old [01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.920] but no matter how old it is [01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.920] you make those false fees claims now [01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.920] we've done a lot of these [01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:14.920] and every time I started to make the false fees claim [01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:18.920] with someone who was in the business [01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:22.920] they always stopped me, it scared them [01:05:22.920 --> 01:05:25.920] because they knew that [01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:29.920] oh this doesn't look right, oh there we go, I'm misreading my clock [01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.920] because they knew that they had charged false fees [01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:36.920] and they didn't want to make the claim in their case because they were afraid [01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:38.920] they would come back to haunt them in other cases [01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:41.920] Jeff, are you there? [01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.920] okay, we seem to have some [01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.920] oh okay, okay, I know what it is [01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.920] Jeff, Jeff may be back in a minute [01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:02.920] okay, you still there Francis? [01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:03.920] yes sir [01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:05.920] okay, good, good [01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:08.920] I'm losing track of my board here [01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:12.920] okay, but the false fees have really worked [01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.920] I mean, what we do is [01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.920] I take the entire amount on the HUD-1 settlement statement [01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:25.920] and since they didn't provide any documentation for any of those fees [01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:29.920] I presume they're all fraudulent [01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.920] and we've done this a lot of times in federal courts [01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:35.920] sued for the false fee issue [01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:43.920] and not one time has a lender made any attempt to prove up a single fee [01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.920] and they're not going to [01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:50.920] because if they prove up one and don't prove up another [01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:59.920] it will create the adverse inference that the one that they did not prove up [01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:02.920] was exactly what we said it was [01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:10.920] a fraudulent fee charged in order to secure funds that the lender could then use [01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:15.920] to bribe our fiduciaries to breach their fiduciary duty to us [01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.920] okay, Jeff, are you there? [01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:21.920] I am this time [01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:23.920] alrighty, that sounds better [01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:25.920] okay, go ahead Jeff [01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:29.920] okay, you had mentioned just a few moments ago [01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:36.920] about receiving something from a lady in Pennsylvania pertaining to rescinding [01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:40.920] ah, we're losing you again Jeff [01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:44.920] yeah, we're losing you altogether [01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.920] you know, breaking up really really bad [01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:56.920] now, this connection is not working at all [01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.920] yeah, I think we've lost them altogether [01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:08.920] okay, well I hate to see that because Jeff always has good information [01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:14.920] can I ask you one question about the 60 year procedure? [01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:17.920] what is the statute? is it the federal statute? [01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:20.920] okay, hold on a second [01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:23.920] is my voice breaking up? [01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:25.920] pretty well [01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:39.920] okay, because now all of a sudden Francis' call is breaking up too [01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:59.920] okay, Francis, you were breaking up really bad [01:08:59.920 --> 01:09:03.920] will you try it again and let me see if I can understand you [01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:10.920] okay, the statute of limitations, the six years in Colorado or the four years in Texas [01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:13.920] is that a state statute or is that a federal statute? [01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:15.920] that's a state property code [01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:26.920] or at least it is in Texas, but it's not in the property code [01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:28.920] it's in the property code, it's in the government code I think [01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:30.920] yeah, it's state, it's strictly state [01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:33.920] feds don't have anything to do with that [01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:35.920] okay [01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.920] all right [01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:39.920] okay, is that it? [01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:43.920] is there a telephone number you want me to have this attorney call you on? [01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:48.920] oh yes, I will drop it into Skype, I've got your Skype up here [01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:57.920] okay, that would be great, I'll have him do that and I really appreciate it and I'm going to hang up and listen to you guys and hopefully you'll get Jeff on and I'll be listening [01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:02.920] okay, I think Jeff dropped off, I think we've lost Jeff [01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:07.920] okay, thank you Francis and don't be a stranger [01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:08.920] I won't [01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:15.920] oh wait, we never did get a report on what happened with your mother-in-law [01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:20.920] oh, well let's see [01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:32.920] the South Dakota court basically without any cause and without any petition stripped away, allegedly stripped away all my husband's rights, they stripped him as guardian [01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:38.920] no one objected to him, they just wouldn't let his petitions to move his mother come to hearing [01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.920] and then they stated that they stripped him of guardianship [01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:47.920] and then they stated that they stripped him of durable power of attorney, which is quite a stubborn document to strip [01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:51.920] you have to prove that she didn't have capacity at the time she signed it [01:10:51.920 --> 01:11:03.920] so Galen went up and then they stopped her, they stopped having any communication with Galen, he wasn't able to get any medical information or any kind of, she fell and they didn't call him [01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:07.920] and they were using cousins and extended relatives [01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:15.920] so he went up in July and brought her down to Colorado and she had been admitted to the nursing home for the third hometown down here [01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:22.920] and they just set everything up, they alleged that Galen is in contempt to court for a temporary restraining order [01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:26.920] and that they found him of that in like August the 12th [01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:32.920] and that temporary restraining order expired by operation of law in November the year before [01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:40.920] and the judge was on the phone screaming and yelling and had the cops in both South Dakota and Colorado going hither skither and yawn [01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:46.920] and so we finally got a case filed on Monday [01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:56.920] but not before they assigned an alleged temporary guardian out of Colorado Springs, a different county than Joyce is now a resident of [01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:03.920] and they also assigned a guardian ad litem, they're just ignoring Galen's temporary, I mean his durable power of attorney [01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:13.920] and they say that they stripped him of all those and so they're set up to forcibly remove his mother back from out of this nursing home [01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:23.920] and they ruled on Monday that they will not notice, Galen will have no contact with his mother, they just decided that he won't have any idea what's going on with the case [01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:31.920] they don't want him fighting for his mother, they don't want him fighting for transparency, they don't want him fighting for anything [01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:37.920] and they have the guardian has put her into hospice so now she's pretty drugged up [01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:47.920] and so we filed this case to try to get the federal people to look at what was going on and I was down there on Monday [01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:56.920] and with the emergency temporary restraining order and they denied it and closed the case yesterday, 48 hours [01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:02.920] and it is absolutely, everything is a lie, everything the judge said was wrong [01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:11.920] and so I do have a civil rights lawyer helping me out of Pennsylvania and he's going to help me write a motion for reconsideration [01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:21.920] but it's pretty unbelievable and nobody seems to care about my husband, about his mother and they don't care about what she wants [01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:27.920] and she left South Dakota because she wanted to come and be close to her only living family member [01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:34.920] her oldest son is dead and her husband died years ago and they're fighting without agency [01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:40.920] the first attorney that assigned the conservator to handle the money had no agency, he's admitted that [01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:46.920] and the conservator had no standing to challenge the guardian from moving the party [01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:52.920] and they are just, I mean it's just, it's pretty bad [01:13:52.920 --> 01:14:01.920] the only people who trust the criminal, the legal system in the United States are those people who's never had to deal with it [01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:09.920] it's the truth and so here's this elderly woman, they stole her last $123,000 after she got here [01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:17.920] then they also took all of her long-term care insurance which generally goes directly from the insurance carrier to the nursing home where she was [01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:24.920] they went to court and got an order that they didn't have to pay her bills with her money in Colorado [01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:33.920] so they sucked up her self-security and her federal retirement income and they diverted her long-term care insurance to their pockets [01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:40.920] and set here until she was three and a half or four months on the verge of being thrown out of the nursing home before they finally paid [01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:44.920] and by that time they had bullied the nursing home until the nursing home would do whatever they wanted to [01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:52.920] which includes Galen can't see her, Galen can't, he can't know anything about her care, it's just egregious [01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:58.920] and I now know what these people feel like when they have their kids taken [01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:06.920] so we're going to keep trying but they've all of a sudden decided they're going to pay for a funeral [01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:13.920] and they have her in hospice and she wasn't on the verge of passing away so I think they're going to knock her off [01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:19.920] to tell you the truth I think they're going to kill her and they may move her to a different place in Colorado, I don't know [01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:25.920] we don't have any clue, he goes over there yesterday and today just to say hello and to say goodbye [01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:32.920] so he's seen her one last time because if it happens so we'll be back in the court filing on Monday [01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:39.920] but we have a bad judge I guess and so that's that one [01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:43.920] Have you put this in front of the newspapers at all? [01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:48.920] You know I was thinking about that this morning, I was thinking about putting it in front of the newspapers [01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:56.920] the conservator is actually a bank out of Montana and Rapid City, South Dakota so they can't reach into Colorado [01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:01.920] they're really having issues, when we first got her down here they wanted her back [01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:07.920] but that would have taken a governor's warrant and no governor is going to issue a warrant to remove a mother [01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:13.920] and a son from one another so they've done an ingrun and gotten people here that they're saying has authority [01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:21.920] so I think it is time to go to the newspapers and maybe even the TV stations that kind of take on this kind of case [01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:25.920] Have you looked at the elderly abuse statutes? 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[01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:59.920] Visit us at capitalcoinandbullion.com or call 512-646-6440 [01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:06.920] This is the Logos Logos Radio Net [01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:33.920] Okay, we are back [01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:38.920] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, you're on the radio, we're talking to Francis in Colorado [01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:43.920] Francis, normally, I don't have much use for the press [01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:48.920] For the most part, when I try to use the press, I don't have much use for the press [01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.920] I don't have much use for the press [01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:54.920] I don't have much use for the press [01:19:54.920 --> 01:20:01.920] For the most part, when I try to use the press, it always comes out badly [01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:03.920] But this is different [01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:07.920] Elder abuse is really a big deal [01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:15.920] And it actually, maybe you might actually find a newspaper or TV reporter [01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:21.920] who's had a similar problem with one of their parents or relatives [01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:26.920] And this is a subject that touches everybody's heart [01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.920] Especially since you're picking on out-of-state judges [01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:35.920] You're in Colorado, you can call those guys in North Dakota or South Dakota, anything you want to [01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:38.920] And they'll just jump right on the bandwagon [01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:44.920] Well, and they're reaching out and the federal people said, you know, we have new jurisdiction [01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:46.920] And they are reaching out across their jurisdiction [01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:51.920] We waited 90 days, over 90 days, to make sure she was a resident of Colorado [01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:53.920] And she left because she wanted to [01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:56.920] Of course, she had to have help because she's had a stroke [01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:01.920] But every attorney we talked to said that Galen still had durable power of attorney [01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:03.920] because that takes a special case [01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:06.920] And it has to be filed and there has to be medical people [01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:13.920] And everybody that we pretended that my husband was trying to bump his brother out, you know [01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:15.920] And they said, don't even try [01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.920] We won't even go there, we won't take the case, you're not going to win [01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.920] And so, but they just did it by caprice [01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.920] Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on here [01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:29.920] They're, okay, they're in South Dakota [01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:34.920] But when they came to Texas, I mean to Texas, to Colorado [01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:42.920] And took actions in Colorado, there's no more diversity [01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:46.920] Sue them in Colorado, filed criminal charges against them [01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:51.920] Grand jury in Colorado [01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:53.920] Okay, I didn't do criminal [01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:56.920] So you would just go through the, well see the problem is [01:21:56.920 --> 01:21:59.920] They've really made quite the little deal [01:21:59.920 --> 01:22:03.920] Galen and his mother jointly owned a trailer house [01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:05.920] And it's personal property [01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:09.920] So the conservator had no control over Galen [01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:12.920] And she could not steal Galen's property [01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:14.920] And so it got to be a knockdown drag out [01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:19.920] And they had the court ordered that the conservator could sell the trailer [01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:24.920] Which meant that they were going to steal Galen's property without due process [01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:27.920] So Galen sold it on his own [01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:31.920] And then they turned around and got an illegal judgment against him [01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:33.920] Kept it off the record [01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:36.920] They got it in like March the 20th [01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:42.920] We didn't, I tried and tried and tried and couldn't get a copy of that until July the 7th [01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:45.920] Something like that, so four months later [01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.920] But they brought it in 31 days, they brought it to Colorado [01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:51.920] And Colorado didn't even question it [01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:57.920] So he has a foreign judgment against him by them in order to mess up the court here [01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:00.920] So you should sue them in Colorado [01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:05.920] Instead of the feds and bring them to a state court [01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:09.920] Go to a state grand jury [01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:13.920] Right now grand juries are a big deal [01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:18.920] With all these demonstrations all over the country over grand juries [01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:21.920] It's a real sensitive subject right now [01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:24.920] And our legislature here in Texas is in session [01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:27.920] And I will be moving them [01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:32.920] And I would suggest you talk to your legislators [01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:35.920] And ask for something really really minor [01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:42.920] You know, in Missouri and then in New York and then in Pennsylvania [01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:51.920] We've had these issues where it appears as though the prosecuting attorneys are controlling the grand juries [01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:55.920] Well, I have a really simple solution for that [01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:59.920] For this distrust that the people have [01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:01.920] It won't cost anything [01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:09.920] It won't interfere with any of the jurisdiction or duties of the grand jury [01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:16.920] If you ask the legislature to require that the grand jury set aside time at each meeting [01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:22.920] To hear complaints by private citizens [01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:27.920] That will change everything [01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:33.920] In all this time of researching the Code of Criminal Procedure and Penal Code [01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:41.920] Looking for some way to fix the system [01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:45.920] If there is a way that is it [01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:51.920] And it's not because we think we can get the grand jury to indict [01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:59.920] It's because the one being accused can't be sure that we won't get the grand jury to indict [01:24:59.920 --> 01:25:07.920] You start making criminal accusations against this judge from South Dakota in Colorado [01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:14.920] He is not going to feel very protected in Colorado [01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:21.920] Well, we filed a criminal complaint up there [01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:25.920] We filed a criminal complaint in South Dakota [01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:27.920] File one here [01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:28.920] Huh? [01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:33.920] File one in Colorado and when the prosecuting attorney doesn't act on it [01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:36.920] File one against him for shielding from prosecution [01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:39.920] Just run the routine on him [01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:41.920] Okay [01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:46.920] The problem with criminal complaints, there's not much they can do about that [01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:48.920] And it gets real ugly real fast [01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:54.920] Does the attorney general in Colorado have prosecutorial powers? [01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:55.920] I'll have to look that up [01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:59.920] I know that they did in South Dakota but I haven't looked it up in Colorado [01:25:59.920 --> 01:26:05.920] In Texas, it used to be before 2007 [01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:12.920] That the attorney general only had prosecutorial powers [01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:19.920] In the matter of a criminal complaint against a prosecuting attorney under the Open Records Act [01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:24.920] In all other cases, the attorney general was the lawyer for the state [01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:27.920] 2007 they changed the code [01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:37.920] And gave the attorney general concurrent jurisdiction in the matter of complaints against public officials [01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:46.920] But in most states, the attorney general is the primary state prosecutor [01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:50.920] So you go to the local prosecutor against the judge [01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:56.920] And when the local prosecutor refuses to act you go to the local district judge and file against the prosecutor [01:26:56.920 --> 01:27:00.920] And work your way up to the attorney general [01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:04.920] The attorney general is really really political [01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:10.920] And once you get to the attorney general and he refuses to act then you take that to the newspapers [01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.920] But this is the attorney general you got that when they steal your parents [01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:20.920] Everything your parents have worked for all their lives and your inheritance [01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:24.920] Your attorney general is going to help them [01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:29.920] In the end it's all political [01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:35.920] So think about that, that may be a way in this particular time [01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:39.920] Especially now if you start filing criminal charges [01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:48.920] And then start lobbying for legislative change that will put you directly in front of the grand jury [01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:53.920] That's going to scare the bejesus out of these guys [01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:57.920] Okay [01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:00.920] Okay, does it sound like fun? [01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:02.920] Oh that just sounds like a blast [01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:09.920] Well I still can't get, I filed three times to try to get a no answer default judgement against the notary in my wrongful foreclosure [01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:11.920] And they are refusing [01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:18.920] I'm thinking of an interlocutory appeal to get the palate court to make the decision on that [01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:23.920] Would this decision dispose, if you got [01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:28.920] Okay, interlocutory sounds right because you are going for default judgement [01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:31.920] Default judgement would be dispositive [01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:39.920] It would dispose the case so it should be right for an interlocutory [01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:41.920] Right, that's what I thought [01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:44.920] But it would give me dress due to caught [01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.920] And I can go back and get the foreclosure overturned [01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:52.920] That would be great, after all this time [01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:57.920] I know it, and then I'm on appeal in my action to quiet title and I've challenged agency [01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:01.920] And I've challenged that they don't have any standing because they sold all their lights [01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:05.920] And nobody else came forward so [01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:12.920] I'm on my second brief in the appeals court and then all of a sudden out of the blue the district court reopens the case [01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:17.920] After they dismissed it with prejudice and that's why I appealed [01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:20.920] Then they threatened to close it today [01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:25.920] Without prejudice if I didn't react and do something so I filed a status report earlier this week [01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:27.920] It's crazy [01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:29.920] It's just crazy [01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:31.920] So I don't know [01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:39.920] Wait a minute, did the judge, he dismissed the case with prejudice, had it gone more than 30 days? [01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:46.920] 30 days, he loses plenary jurisdiction, you should file a criminal against the federal judge in the state [01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:47.920] Oh [01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:50.920] Hold on, about to go to break, I'll explain that on the other side [01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:55.920] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio, we'll be right back [01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:07.920] Ohio congressman Steve Chabot faced angry protesters at a town hall meeting in Avondale, Ohio [01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:12.920] What to do? 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[01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:17.920] I'm not free Tony [01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:19.920] You can't chip me [01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:20.920] I'm a bag [01:33:20.920 --> 01:33:22.920] Don't let them chip you in the morning [01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:23.920] Chip you in the evening [01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:25.920] Put a chip in on your body [01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:27.920] And anyway you go computer reading [01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:29.920] You can't hide me safe from nobody [01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:31.920] When you say chip in on your mom [01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:33.920] Chip in on your daddy [01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:34.920] Chip in on your grandpa [01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:35.920] Underground [01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:36.920] Okay, we are back [01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:38.920] Randy Kelton, Jim Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio [01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:41.920] And we're talking to Frances in Colorado [01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:46.920] And you know, in the end, Frances, everything's political [01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:52.920] And you and I as the masters of the servants [01:33:52.920 --> 01:33:56.920] Have much more power than we realize [01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:01.920] And our officials do everything they can to hide that from us [01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:06.920] And the legislature is where you have the most power [01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:11.920] I'm in Texas, Texas has I think 21 million people now [01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:14.920] Either 21, somewhere between 21 and 25 [01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:18.920] I go down to the legislature and have these subcommittees [01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:20.920] You can go into any subcommittee office [01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:25.920] You can go into any senator or representative's office [01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:27.920] There's nobody there [01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:30.920] We go to the subcommittee hearings [01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:35.920] The only people who tend to show up are people with corporate interests [01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:39.920] Every once in a while a citizen will show up [01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:42.920] And give their opinion to the committee, but rarely [01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:46.920] When you go down to one of these subcommittees [01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:55.920] And it's the subcommittees that either suggest that legislation be adopted or rejected [01:34:55.920 --> 01:35:01.920] And the House and Senate will almost always accept their recommendations [01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:10.920] They are the ones, you'll have seven or eight representatives in a House subcommittee [01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:13.920] And they're the ones who makes the decision [01:35:13.920 --> 01:35:16.920] You can question them, you can look them right in the eye [01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:21.920] You can give your opinion and it affects them, they pay attention [01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:25.920] You can embarrass them and that's the most fun to do [01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:30.920] Because it's the most likely to get them to look at what's going on [01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:34.920] You can have a tremendous effect [01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:41.920] If you could go into a subcommittee and show that everybody is lining up behind these people [01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:45.920] That are stealing everybody's inheritance [01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:49.920] This is something that will appeal to everyone [01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:53.920] And the more potential inheritance you got [01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:57.920] The more immediate this issue is going to be [01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.920] Then right now with all the pressures on grand juries [01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:08.920] This is a perfect time to demonstrate how bad things are [01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:11.920] And you can demonstrate it by filing criminal complaints [01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:15.920] And working your way up [01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:21.920] This thing of where you never ask a public official to do something you actually want him to do [01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:25.920] You go in there and set them up to not do it [01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:29.920] It doesn't take them long to realize what you're doing [01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:34.920] I did this recently in a small town here right next to Fort Worth [01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:36.920] I went in and was looking at some records [01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:41.920] And the judge came over and said you can't look at those records, you're a security risk [01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:43.920] I'm a security risk? Yes you are [01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:45.920] I closed the record, pushed it across the table [01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:49.920] Bayliff was standing there and I said Mr. Bayliff do you hear that? [01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:50.920] Yes Mr. Kelton I did [01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:52.920] Arrest that woman [01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:55.920] Why can't you arrest her? This is her court [01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.920] With all due respect you are mistaken [01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:00.920] This is my court [01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:04.920] And I very generously allow her to administer it according to my law [01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:06.920] And she violated that law [01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:09.920] In your presence, arrest her [01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:12.920] Well I'm not going to arrest a judge [01:37:12.920 --> 01:37:14.920] So he said he'd take me down to his boss [01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:16.920] He took me to his boss [01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:19.920] I asked his boss to arrest him [01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:21.920] For not arresting the judge [01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:24.920] And his boss refused so he went across to the sheriff's department [01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:28.920] Asked the sheriff's deputy to arrest his boss [01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:31.920] But before the sheriff's deputy got there [01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:33.920] Actually he was captain [01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:39.920] The elected constable came over and said Mr. Kelton [01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:44.920] If you would like I will bring your complaint to the district attorney [01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:46.920] Oh no no no [01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:49.920] No don't do that [01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:51.920] I'll get it to the grand jury [01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:53.920] To the district attorney [01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:56.920] But I'm not ready yet [01:37:56.920 --> 01:37:57.920] He said you're not ready yet [01:37:57.920 --> 01:37:58.920] Oh no no no [01:37:58.920 --> 01:37:59.920] I'm not ready [01:37:59.920 --> 01:38:03.920] I haven't got everybody to touch my tar baby yet [01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:05.920] And he said what? [01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:07.920] I said well the judge touched it [01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:09.920] And the bailiff touched it [01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:12.920] And you touched it [01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:15.920] Now I want the sheriff to touch it [01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:17.920] He's just there shaking his head [01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:21.920] Now he knows what I'm doing [01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:25.920] And I told him I never asked a public official to do anything I actually want him to do [01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:28.920] So he got to stand back there and watch [01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:31.920] While I did it to the captain [01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:33.920] Captain came in and I told him [01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:34.920] He said what can I do for you? [01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:37.920] I said arrest him [01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:39.920] Why would I arrest him? [01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:41.920] Class A misdemeanor official misconduct criminal violation [01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:43.920] 3903 penal code [01:38:43.920 --> 01:38:45.920] In that he failed to perform a duty he was required to perform [01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:50.920] And in the process denied me the full free action to adjourn the right [01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:54.920] And the captain just stood there and looked at me like [01:38:54.920 --> 01:38:57.920] What did he just say? [01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:00.920] He said well I'm off duty [01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:03.920] You're a certified police officer, aren't you? [01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:04.920] Yes I am [01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:06.920] You know you're never off duty [01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:08.920] Come on captain [01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:09.920] Take your chicken suit off [01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:11.920] Let's go over and throw the cuss on him [01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:13.920] And drag him off the jail [01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:14.920] He ain't got far to go [01:39:14.920 --> 01:39:16.920] It's right here in the back [01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:19.920] So they're not sure if I'm joking or not [01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:24.920] But what they are sure of is that I am not agitated [01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:26.920] I'm not upset [01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:30.920] I'm not angry in the slightest [01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:35.920] And they both know I got something else going on [01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:40.920] That works extremely well because as you walk up the line [01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:44.920] It becomes clear to everybody you talk to [01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:49.920] This chump is in here deliberately setting us up [01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:51.920] And it scares them [01:39:51.920 --> 01:39:55.920] And the higher level you get [01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:58.920] The more political pressure it brings [01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:03.920] Because these guys down here at the bottom don't really understand the political process so much [01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:07.920] But when you get to district judges, attorney generals [01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:11.920] Chief justice of the state supreme [01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:15.920] When you file against the attorney general [01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:18.920] When he refuses to act [01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:21.920] Who would be the logical person to file against? [01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:24.920] File with? [01:40:24.920 --> 01:40:27.920] You want a magistrate [01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:31.920] The highest magistrate in the state [01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:37.920] Happens to be the chief justice of your supreme court [01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:41.920] And when he refuses to act [01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:46.920] Then you can go to the feds and file against the chief justice [01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:49.920] Well they're not going to act on the complaint [01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:51.920] They're going to do the same song and dance [01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:55.920] But the chief justice is going to get a call from the FBI [01:40:55.920 --> 01:41:01.920] Telling him that we got somebody down here trying to get us to arrest you [01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:06.920] For an ongoing criminal conspiracy to shield public officials from prosecution [01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:11.920] You want to explain what's going on here? [01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:13.920] Politics [01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:17.920] Everything is political and all politics is local [01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:20.920] And you use that as a great story [01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:25.920] This is the kind of story that the papers would print [01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:32.920] That they're stealing this woman's entire life from her [01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:36.920] And now you're afraid they're setting her up to kill her [01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:40.920] Because somebody's fighting to get the money they stole back [01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:44.920] And everybody in Colorado government [01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:50.920] Is committing criminal acts to protect these guys in South Dakota [01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:55.920] That makes a really cool story [01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.920] It does, it's a little grueling but yeah [01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:02.920] Can I go to, go ahead [01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:08.920] We suggest as a solution to all of these problems [01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:10.920] Just open up to grand jury [01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:13.920] These public officials don't want to file on people they work with [01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:16.920] And that's understandable [01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:20.920] Since they are the servants and I am the master [01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:21.920] Right [01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:23.920] Open it up to us [01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:26.920] It's not about actually getting them indicted [01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:31.920] But when every public official has to look at the prospect [01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:34.920] Of having to explain what they're about to do [01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:39.920] To a grand jury of your peers, not their peers [01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:46.920] A lot of these problems we're having will simply fade away of their own accord [01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:52.920] So take them on, you write really good criminal complaints [01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:54.920] Okay [01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:58.920] Well I basically got one written, I just have to switch the laws up to Colorado [01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:00.920] On that [01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:04.920] So you asked me a question about a criminal [01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:08.920] Or if it had been over 30 days since the judge had acted on the case [01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:10.920] The action to quiet title [01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:12.920] He dismissed the case on June 2nd [01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:15.920] Once he dismisses [01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:20.920] 30 days after he dismisses he loses plenary jurisdiction [01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:23.920] He can't step back into that case [01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:27.920] Unless the court of appeals reverses and remands [01:43:27.920 --> 01:43:29.920] If the court remands it for any reason [01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:31.920] He can step back in the case [01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.920] After 30 days he loses plenary jurisdiction [01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:39.920] Okay, well they haven't done any action in the appeal count [01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:41.920] So he lost that plenary jurisdiction [01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:44.920] Good, go ahead and sue him personally [01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:48.920] Hang on, Randy Kelton, David Stevens, rule of our radio [01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:53.920] We're about out of time, we're in the last segment so I won't give you the phone number [01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:55.920] We'll be right back [01:43:59.920 --> 01:44:03.920] You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics? 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visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner or call toll free 866-LAW-EZ [01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:38.920] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio and we're talking to Francis in Colorado [01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:45.920] Francis, you may actually be at a point where you can really change things [01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:55.920] You know, the Republicans got control of the House and Senate and they think they got a great advantage [01:46:55.920 --> 01:47:03.920] I think the timing was terrible for this, for the Republicans [01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:13.920] When they want to get that kind of a landslide is during a presidential election year, not in the off year [01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:18.920] Because what they got was a mandate [01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:23.920] Now they got control, you guys better get it fixed [01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:33.920] So if the next two years they don't make some dramatic changes, the public is going to be unhappy [01:47:33.920 --> 01:47:37.920] And then we're coming up on an election year [01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:44.920] So this may actually give the Democrats a shot at getting another Democratic president back in [01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:46.920] If the Republicans can't perform [01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:53.920] So your legislators need something that they can wave in front of the public [01:47:53.920 --> 01:48:02.920] And I'm preparing a white paper and a white paper is if you want legislation passed, you prepare the legislature a white paper [01:48:02.920 --> 01:48:11.920] And what it does, it says this is what I want, this is the law and these are all the laws that are affected by this law [01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:20.920] And this is how the law I want will fit in with surrounding laws and how it will affect other laws [01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:23.920] And you have to show them why it won't cause problems [01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:28.920] It causes a problem, it's a less problem than the one it fixes [01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:35.920] And then you got to show them how much money this is going to cost and then you have to show them where they're going to get the money to pay for it [01:48:35.920 --> 01:48:42.920] You can't expect a legislator to do all this work for you when it's your issue [01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:48.920] But then you have to show him why it's politically valuable to him [01:48:48.920 --> 01:49:01.920] Okay, we have a lot of unrest around the country because people don't trust the prosecutors in the way they're dealing with grand juries [01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:06.920] We're having demonstrations all over the country [01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:10.920] This is in worldwide focus [01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:20.920] Now is the perfect time to give your legislator something that he can do, won't cost any money [01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:23.920] Because the grand jury is meeting already [01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:31.920] They just set aside time, when they get done they say anybody have a, any private citizens here want to give us notice of a crime [01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:40.920] In Colorado you have the same duties of grand jurors as the Fed does [01:49:40.920 --> 01:49:45.920] And I wish Texas was written this way [01:49:45.920 --> 01:50:00.920] It says the grand jury shall investigate into all crimes liable to indictment that comes to their knowledge by whatever means [01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:08.920] So that puts no limitations on who can notice the grand jury that crimes have been committed [01:50:08.920 --> 01:50:18.920] And from the perspective of public officials as opposed to private citizens [01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:23.920] Public officials are public servants [01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:27.920] Private citizens are the masters of the servants [01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:37.920] Public officials may only do what the masters authorize them to do [01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:42.920] The servants have no say over what the masters do [01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:48.920] Unless the masters themselves have placed limits on themselves [01:50:48.920 --> 01:51:00.920] And in this case the masters clearly said the grand jury shall investigate into all criminal accusations come to their knowledge by whatever means [01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:07.920] So if you attempt to go to a grand jury and anyone interferes with you [01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:14.920] You can consider that an act in violation of 18 U.S. Code 242 [01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:23.920] In Texas it's codified into 39, I mean 3903 penal code [01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:30.920] And I don't remember the statute in Colorado but it has it and I remember that I read it there and it's almost exactly the same wording [01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:33.920] And it's official oppression [01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:41.920] It goes to this difference between a private citizen and a public servant [01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:52.920] If a public servant fails to perform a duty he is required to perform or exerts or purports to exert an authority he does not expressly have [01:51:52.920 --> 01:51:58.920] And in the process denies a citizen the full free access to or enjoyment of a right [01:51:58.920 --> 01:52:04.920] That's a crime in every state and it's generally a class A misdemeanor next thing to a felony [01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:09.920] And as I recall it is just that in Colorado [01:52:09.920 --> 01:52:19.920] But there's more if you're filing a complaint against a public official and the oh I didn't unmute you [01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:26.920] Francis if you file a complaint against a public official and he interferes that's also shielding from prosecution [01:52:26.920 --> 01:52:32.920] Hang on Francis I got Jeff back on Jeff you there [01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:35.920] Well let's see if I am this time [01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:38.920] Perfect you sound perfect [01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:47.920] It's been a panic in between the worldwide on the phone lines and moisture freezing and the horn relay going crazy [01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:51.920] And going out and disconnecting the horns it's been a busy evening around here [01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:59.920] Well it may be part of it because we're down in Texas and it may be all of that heat steaming the lines [01:52:59.920 --> 01:53:12.920] But I'm not really up to speed on the topic that you're dealing with right now so why don't you hold me in advance because [01:53:12.920 --> 01:53:17.920] No we're going to run out of time so let's go back to what you wanted to comment on [01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:20.920] I can nail this real fast for you then [01:53:20.920 --> 01:53:30.920] On the Teela rescission the lady that sent you that decision from Pennsylvania was that decision in Pennsylvania [01:53:30.920 --> 01:53:33.920] That was Leslie from Pennsylvania [01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:36.920] Yeah was the decision made in Pennsylvania [01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:41.920] Oh oh let's see if I can find it [01:53:41.920 --> 01:53:43.920] I think it's here [01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:46.920] I thought it was no I don't know I don't know yet I haven't downloaded [01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:55.920] The one I have here in your Skype box was the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court on January 13 that's two days ago [01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:59.920] Oh that's it because it's SCOTUS [01:53:59.920 --> 01:54:01.920] Yes SCOTUS [01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:03.920] That's the one she's referring to [01:54:03.920 --> 01:54:09.920] Okay now on the statute of limitations you have to be a little careful everybody needs to be a little careful [01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:15.920] They need to do a little bit of research because some of these mortgages indeed the trust are considered to be contracts under seal [01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:17.920] and if they are contracts under seal [01:54:17.920 --> 01:54:20.920] Connecticut has a 22 year statute of limitation [01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:23.920] Pennsylvania got a 22 year statute of limitation [01:54:23.920 --> 01:54:27.920] Maryland's got a 12 year statute of limitations on contracts under seal [01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:39.920] However as of July 1, 2014 contracts under seal as it pertains to mortgages where the property is owner occupied [01:54:39.920 --> 01:54:42.920] statute of limitation is three years [01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:45.920] Is that retroactive? [01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:51.920] No I wouldn't imagine so [01:54:51.920 --> 01:54:56.920] That was well okay so in the future then they'll be able to claim the three year [01:54:56.920 --> 01:54:58.920] Right [01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:04.920] We'd have to look at that because was it new legislation or was it a court ruling? [01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:06.920] It was a new legislation [01:55:06.920 --> 01:55:11.920] Oh okay then it's not going to be an ex post facto [01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:17.920] Yeah so on the lady that's got the problems with the conservator [01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:22.920] Conservator cannot be collecting any kind of monies on their own behalf [01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:26.920] They can't be an original creditor they must be collecting monies on behalf of somebody else [01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:35.920] If that is the case then start looking at violations under the FTCPA and any monies that they seek to get as being actual damages [01:55:35.920 --> 01:55:37.920] Okay [01:55:37.920 --> 01:55:39.920] Francis you there? [01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:42.920] One more thing, pardon? [01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:48.920] I should have Francis on, go ahead Francis, will you address that Francis? [01:55:48.920 --> 01:55:56.920] Well you know what they tried to charge my husband with a bunch of judgments and I filed a debt validation letter and they backed off [01:55:56.920 --> 01:56:03.920] But they are collecting the money on their own behalf and they have started paying her back but they've used the money to leverage and bully other people [01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:05.920] So does that count? [01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:07.920] Yeah [01:56:07.920 --> 01:56:15.920] The homeowners association was sending out annual assessments or annual billings for their dues [01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:21.920] But part of that money that they were collecting went to pay the attorney's fees for filing the monies [01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:24.920] That makes the homeowners association a debt collector [01:56:24.920 --> 01:56:30.920] Oh you just perked my ears up [01:56:30.920 --> 01:56:33.920] Will you say that again? [01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:38.920] The homeowners association was collecting annual assessments [01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:46.920] Those people who were in arrears or had arrearages that hadn't been paid, there were attorney's fees [01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:54.920] And the homeowners association has a contract with the attorney to pay them monies from those monies collected [01:56:54.920 --> 01:57:01.920] As annual assessments and thereby showing that the annual assessment had not been paid but the attorney had [01:57:01.920 --> 01:57:08.920] That makes HOA a third party debt collector [01:57:08.920 --> 01:57:11.920] Okay so they have to pay the attorney [01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:26.920] So I'm thinking in terms of a mortgage in foreclosure where the banks have stacked on enough attorney fees and late fees to swallow up any potential equity [01:57:26.920 --> 01:57:32.920] Would the fact that they're collecting attorney fees make them a debt collector? [01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:37.920] Randy, stand still for a minute please [01:57:37.920 --> 01:57:38.920] Okay [01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:40.920] They accelerate the note [01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:45.920] By law, federal law, they had to continue sending away monthly statements [01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:52.920] If those monthly statements contain a bill for a payment and or late fees [01:57:52.920 --> 01:57:56.920] All that is a violation of the MPCPF [01:57:56.920 --> 01:57:58.920] Oh wonderful [01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:04.920] Thank you Jeff, I'm sorry we are out of time, I wish I had more time for you [01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:07.920] You always bring us good information [01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:12.920] Yeah and I hope you have a better day Francis [01:58:12.920 --> 01:58:15.920] Okay thank you Jeff [01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:18.920] And thank you Francis [01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:23.920] Keep us up to date and you might call in tomorrow night, we'll talk some more about criminal complaints [01:58:23.920 --> 01:58:27.920] That's a lot of fun and it's my favorite place to go [01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:30.920] This is Randy Kelton's Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio [01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:34.920] We'll be back tomorrow night with Steve Skidmore [01:58:34.920 --> 01:58:37.920] And we'll try to do the first two hours on foreclosure [01:58:37.920 --> 01:58:42.920] So if you have a foreclosure issue, question or comment, give us a call [01:58:42.920 --> 01:58:49.920] Thank you all for listening and good night [01:59:12.920 --> 01:59:20.920] Toll free at 888-551-0102 or visit us online at bfa.org [01:59:20.920 --> 01:59:25.920] This translation is highly accurate and it comes with over 13,000 cross references [01:59:25.920 --> 01:59:29.920] Plus charts and maps and an outline for every book of the Bible [01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:32.920] This is truly a Bible you can understand [01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:35.920] To get your free copy of the New Testament Recovery Version [01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:40.920] Call us toll free at 888-551-0102 [01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:49.920] That's 888-551-0102 or visit us online at bfa.org [01:59:49.920 --> 02:00:11.920] You're listening to the Logos Radio Network at logosradionetwork.com