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[00:45.760 --> 00:48.920]  In the news, a historic trial gets underway.
[00:48.920 --> 00:51.440]  With this Liberty Beat exclusive, here's Catherine Bleich.
[00:51.440 --> 00:56.200]  This week, independent media and grassroots activists will descend upon New York City
[00:56.200 --> 01:01.520]  for the trial of Ross Ulbrich, the alleged founder of Silk Road, the online bitcoin black
[01:01.520 --> 01:02.520]  marketplace.
[01:02.520 --> 01:06.080]  In attendance will be Derek J. Freeman, host of Peace News Now.
[01:06.080 --> 01:10.640]  He's organizing activists for general public outreach in the streets of New York City.
[01:10.640 --> 01:15.880]  Derek will provide a sign to every person who RSVPs yes to his Facebook event titled
[01:15.880 --> 01:17.720]  Individuals for Ross Ulbrich.
[01:17.720 --> 01:23.000]  James Babb, a nationally known jury nullification activist, has planned an outreach effort to
[01:23.000 --> 01:24.920]  take place outside of the courthouse.
[01:24.920 --> 01:29.600]  Baz reports that this event is designed to inform the public about a juror's right to
[01:29.600 --> 01:32.360]  nullify unjust or misapplied laws.
[01:32.360 --> 01:36.240]  They will distribute pamphlets from the fully informed jury association.
[01:36.240 --> 01:40.360]  While Derek and James organize the streets, a set of renowned independent journalists
[01:40.360 --> 01:43.520]  will be inside the courtroom soaking in every moment.
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[01:48.760 --> 01:49.760]  Rhodes.
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[03:01.680 --> 03:24.640]  Really, man, come on, six o'clock noon, see somebody been shot, somebody's been fused,
[03:24.640 --> 03:31.840]  somebody's been shot, somebody's been shot, somebody's been shot.
[03:31.840 --> 03:45.360]  too far, yeah. They didn't get too far. Grandpappy told my pappy back in my day, son, a man had to answer for the
[03:45.360 --> 03:53.480]  ways that he'd done. He'd take all the rope in Texas by the tall oak tree, round up all of them bad boys, sing a
[03:53.480 --> 04:05.480]  hymn on the street for all the people to sing. That just as it's one thing, you should always find, you've got to
[04:05.480 --> 04:14.080]  settle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line. When the gun smoke settles, we'll sing a victory tune, and we'll all
[04:14.080 --> 04:25.360]  meet if I've got the hopes of us. We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces, singin', whiskey for my men, beer for my
[04:25.360 --> 04:26.360]  horses.
[04:26.360 --> 04:38.720]  All right, folks, good evening. This is Rule of Law Radio, the Monday night show with your host, Eddie Craig. It is January
[04:38.720 --> 04:49.040]  12, 2015. We are halfway through the first month of a new year and rolling forward as always. Unfortunately, however, I
[04:49.040 --> 04:55.960]  don't think the road forward is about to get better. It's only going to get worse with the things, with the way they're
[04:55.960 --> 05:05.720]  going. And I just want to tell folks out there, if you spent your day the way I spend mine, having to read the things
[05:05.720 --> 05:16.200]  that I do and research the things that I do, it would really make you just want to find some high point in the world and jump
[05:16.200 --> 05:28.440]  off. Because it is really, really disheartening to see how many truly stupid people are actually in charge of the most
[05:28.440 --> 05:41.520]  important aspects of the world. Not just stupid, but downright evil and intentionally so on both counts. Now, real quick, I
[05:41.520 --> 05:45.840]  just want to go into something that I talked about a little bit before, but there's something that I want to touch on for
[05:45.840 --> 05:55.920]  everyone after this listening about knowing your rights versus how the system is attempting to destroy your rights. A perfect
[05:55.920 --> 06:04.760]  example in this is the recent decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in the Hine versus North Carolina case. Now, everybody is up
[06:04.760 --> 06:15.880]  in arms about how this case was decided, which I completely agree was very, very incorrectly and very politically motivated so
[06:15.880 --> 06:23.560]  is my opinion of why. But be that as it may, let's look at a few facts about this. Now, I'm going to read to you what the
[06:23.560 --> 06:31.920]  first paragraph is in this case. Listen to the details of the events as they're recorded in the case and how they
[06:31.920 --> 06:41.400]  transpired at the time this gentleman was pulled over by this officer. Following a suspicious vehicle, Sergeant Martin
[06:41.400 --> 06:48.640]  DeRese noticed that only one of the vehicle's brake lights was working and pulled the driver over. While issuing a warning
[06:48.640 --> 06:56.440]  ticket for the broken brake light, DeRese became suspicious of the actions of the two occupants and their answers to his
[06:56.440 --> 07:07.600]  question. Petitioner Nicholas Brady Hine, the car's owner, gave DeRese consent to search the vehicle. DeRese found cocaine and
[07:07.600 --> 07:14.800]  Hine was arrested and charged with attempted trafficking. The trial court denied Hine's motion to suppress the seized
[07:14.800 --> 07:21.360]  evidence on Fourth Amendment grounds, concluding that the vehicle's faulty brake light gave DeRese reasonable suspicion to
[07:21.360 --> 07:29.760]  initiate the stop. The North Carolina Court of Appeals reversed, holding that the relevant code provision, which
[07:29.760 --> 07:40.000]  requires that a car be equipped with a stop lamp, North Carolina General Statute annotated Section 20-129G, requires
[07:40.000 --> 07:48.360]  only a single lamp, which Hine's vehicle had, and therefore the justification for the stop was objectively unreasonable,
[07:48.360 --> 07:56.640]  reversing in turn the state Supreme Court held that even assuming no violation of the state law had occurred, DeRese's
[07:56.640 --> 08:09.040]  mistaken understanding of the law was reasonable and thus the stop was invalid. The Supreme Court held because DeRese's
[08:09.040 --> 08:16.640]  mistake of law was reasonable, there was reasonable suspicion justifying the stop under the Fourth Amendment.
[08:16.640 --> 08:27.600]  All right, now let's take all of that in totality of how they've got this and let's understand one thing. The officer went
[08:27.600 --> 08:36.640]  farther than issuing the warning ticket for what reason? He became suspicious of the answers received from the two men in
[08:36.640 --> 08:51.360]  the truck to his questions. Rule one, shut up, keep shutting up, and shut up some more. Had these gentlemen not answered
[08:51.360 --> 09:00.240]  the officer's questions, which they were under absolutely no obligation to do, wouldn't have been any suspicion
[09:00.240 --> 09:09.760]  triggered, would there? At least not that could have been determined to be reasonable. Because the court has stated
[09:09.760 --> 09:19.200]  and is fully aware, you are not required to answer these officer's questions. But these men did. Refer to the
[09:19.200 --> 09:29.360]  transportation stop script, folks. Let's look at issue number two. No warrant, no probable cause to search, asked for a
[09:29.360 --> 09:43.280]  voluntary consent to search, voluntary consent granted, drugs discovered, arrest made, how stupid do you have to be?
[09:43.280 --> 09:50.400]  You know there's drugs in your car. You know he doesn't have a warrant and you know that so far he has no
[09:50.400 --> 09:56.320]  articulable probable cause or reasonable suspicion to determine that there are drugs in the car.
[09:56.320 --> 10:05.520]  And you, knowing you are trafficking in drugs, and sure, go ahead, search. At that point, it does not matter
[10:05.520 --> 10:13.680]  whether the initial stop was reasonable or not. Because had you done the same thing when a cop walked up to you
[10:13.680 --> 10:19.600]  in the crowd and initiated a conversation and you were giving him answers to all these questions, and he said, hey,
[10:19.600 --> 10:25.680]  I know that you're not doing anything wrong at the moment and I don't really think you are, but just, you know,
[10:25.680 --> 10:34.160]  hey, would you mind if I searched your backpack just to see what you're carrying? Oh, no, go ahead. And you got a
[10:34.160 --> 10:39.760]  kilo of coke in the bottom of it and then you try to have it thrown out and suppressed because he discovered it.
[10:39.760 --> 10:52.080]  How stupid do you have to be? Well, that's what happened right here. So even though the initial stop was not based upon
[10:52.080 --> 11:03.600]  an actual fault of law or violation thereof, the subsequent search was perfectly fine because it
[11:03.600 --> 11:12.720]  was consented to voluntarily. Once again, had you not consented to a warrantless search and answered
[11:12.720 --> 11:19.920]  any questions, there wouldn't have been a reasonable basis for the discovery of anything
[11:19.920 --> 11:25.840]  and this would not have been a case decided the way that it is. I talked about this once before,
[11:25.840 --> 11:34.560]  but the more I've been reading about how stupid our judges are in Texas and elsewhere, how they
[11:34.560 --> 11:42.160]  absolutely refuse to look at the actual statutes they claim, have all the authority they exercise,
[11:42.160 --> 11:48.480]  but they completely ignore them as if they don't exist and they create case opinion that runs contrary
[11:48.480 --> 11:57.680]  to them and that case opinion stands for decades as if the statute never changes in its entire history
[11:57.680 --> 12:04.400]  and even when it does and the opinion is now dead to water because it did, they continue to go with
[12:04.400 --> 12:09.360]  the opinion and ignore the changes because they never bother to read a single pleading that we
[12:09.360 --> 12:18.640]  file in the court that says, hey, you're doing it wrong. If you want to prove just how contrary to
[12:18.640 --> 12:25.280]  understanding what they're really supposed to do, a judge is, ask them to actually read an argument
[12:25.280 --> 12:34.320]  that says you're doing it wrong. Lawyers sure as hell won't do it. You go into a lawyer's office
[12:34.320 --> 12:38.720]  and say, hey, are you aware that you've probably been misrepresenting your clients for a very long
[12:38.720 --> 12:44.480]  time now? Are you aware that you've been giving bad legal advice based upon what the law actually
[12:44.480 --> 12:51.200]  says versus what you're telling your clients? Are you aware that your practice is committing fraud
[12:51.200 --> 12:56.560]  by telling them A, when the law says B, so you can get them to pay you money to go to court
[12:56.560 --> 13:03.520]  under the pretense that you can handle it and they can't? Because that's what's happening.
[13:03.520 --> 13:11.840]  The American judicial system is completely screwed. There's no other way to put it. There is no
[13:11.840 --> 13:20.000]  politically correct way to put it. It is absolutely totally screwed. But so is every other form of
[13:20.000 --> 13:25.920]  government we've got. We've allowed it to run completely unmanaged and uncontrolled by the
[13:25.920 --> 13:35.040]  people. We've given the inmates the keys not only to the asylum, but to the armory as well, and then
[13:35.040 --> 13:42.400]  we stocked them up with the money to buy the bullets. And then we said, oh, well, you go ahead
[13:42.400 --> 13:46.320]  and now that you're running the asylum, you go ahead and make all the rules about how the asylum
[13:46.320 --> 13:52.800]  works. What do you think they're going to do to all the doctors that were in the asylum?
[13:52.800 --> 13:57.920]  Don't you think they might have an axe to grind and a vendetta to achieve before this is all said
[13:57.920 --> 14:05.440]  and done? A government that is supposed to serve the people now takes exception to being told that
[14:05.440 --> 14:10.880]  they're servants and acts punitively toward the public when they remind them of that?
[14:12.960 --> 14:17.760]  When you challenge the authority of one of your public servants and they fail to comply with the
[14:17.760 --> 14:24.000]  law, when you challenge the authority of one of your public servants and they fly off the
[14:24.000 --> 14:31.280]  handle like it is absolutely beneath them to even address the issue in front of you or because of
[14:31.280 --> 14:39.200]  you, because somehow or other you don't matter more than them, and you continue to believe all
[14:39.200 --> 14:48.640]  of that is okay. And the people around you continue to believe all of that is okay. So do that 18, 20
[14:48.640 --> 14:54.400]  hours a day like I do. Read about it, learn about it, try to figure out what to do about it, and
[14:54.400 --> 14:59.600]  then look around and see how much help you've got, and you'll start looking for that high point to
[14:59.600 --> 15:06.480]  jump off of, I promise you. If it wasn't for the fact that I absolutely refused to give up no matter
[15:06.480 --> 15:15.360]  the odds, I probably would have done that by now. But that's just not me. I will die my dying breath
[15:15.360 --> 15:22.160]  fighting tooth and nail to fix the wrongs that I know exist, no matter what the cost, no matter
[15:22.160 --> 15:27.040]  what the penalty, no matter what is put in print about me or what's said about me or what the
[15:27.040 --> 15:35.040]  opinion of is about me. I will do it because I know it's right, and I'm not going to let anything or
[15:35.040 --> 15:42.560]  anyone stand in my way because of that. And I've got people I love and care for dearly that don't
[15:42.560 --> 15:48.880]  agree with a lot of the things I say because they don't view things from the point of view that I
[15:48.880 --> 15:54.320]  have. And a lot of people don't because they don't spend their time doing the things that I do to see
[15:54.320 --> 16:00.000]  what I see. And that's okay. Some people don't want to, and that's okay too. But the problem is,
[16:00.000 --> 16:05.200]  it goes back to the old adage of, don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes.
[16:05.200 --> 16:15.360]  So don't expect me to accept that your basis for why I'm wrong, when when I ask you questions
[16:15.360 --> 16:21.040]  about specific facts and you have no clue what I'm talking about, that tells me right off the bat,
[16:21.040 --> 16:27.200]  you have no clue what you're talking about when you tell me I'm wrong. You have no grounds for it,
[16:27.200 --> 16:32.160]  no informational basis for it, it's just your opinion. And I've learned a long time ago,
[16:32.160 --> 16:39.440]  I'm not living with anybody else's opinion ever again. You can convince me something is wrong if
[16:39.440 --> 16:44.080]  you can prove it to me that it's wrong or make a reasonable argument based upon the facts that it's
[16:44.080 --> 16:50.560]  wrong, but you're never going to opinionate me into believing I'm wrong. All right folks, y'all hang
[16:50.560 --> 16:55.520]  on, we got an announcement on the other side, so we'll take that up when we get back. Y'all
[16:55.520 --> 16:57.520]  hold on.
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[19:57.920 --> 20:03.040]  Before we get into the callers here, which I see up on the board, we have an announcement,
[20:03.040 --> 20:07.120]  Leland, from the show before mine about your health. Is it, Leland?
[20:08.080 --> 20:11.040]  It is. Pleasure to be on Rule of Law Radio, Eddie.
[20:13.360 --> 20:17.280]  I guess the first thing to bring up is why we weren't live this week.
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[20:46.800 --> 20:53.920]  a Glock 42 from our friends at Central Texas Gunworks. And speaking of gun legislation,
[20:53.920 --> 20:59.680]  I know that your opinion is that the entire government system is just completely screwed up,
[20:59.680 --> 21:09.440]  and I view that quite often as well. But the Texas legislature is starting their 2015 session
[21:09.440 --> 21:18.080]  starting tomorrow, and Lone Star Gun Rights is going to be out starting at 8 a.m. tomorrow morning
[21:18.080 --> 21:26.320]  with a bunch of signed petitions to hand to each and every legislator, house representative,
[21:26.320 --> 21:34.080]  and senator, expressing their support for HB 195, which is a bill that, if passed,
[21:34.080 --> 21:42.000]  will allow for unlicensed, concealed, and open carrying of a handgun. There's another
[21:42.000 --> 21:49.040]  organization out there, which this is my personal opinion, they're going to be performing, I guess,
[21:49.040 --> 21:58.960]  the best way of phrasing it on the air is a stunt, which is they purchased a ghost gunner
[21:58.960 --> 22:05.120]  from Defense Distributed, and they're going to attempt to manufacture lower receivers on the
[22:05.120 --> 22:10.720]  grounds of the Capitol or just outside the gate. That's not the best, in my personal opinion,
[22:10.720 --> 22:21.840]  I don't think that's the best idea to advocate for HB 195 going, confronting with federal firearms
[22:21.840 --> 22:27.280]  laws as stupid as they are. Just talk to anyone who knows anything about firearms, like what's
[22:27.280 --> 22:31.360]  the difference between a pistol and a short-barreled rifle, and what you can attach to a pistol,
[22:31.360 --> 22:37.360]  and what not, and why you need a tac-tent for a short-barreled rifle. It's all ridiculous
[22:37.360 --> 22:44.320]  legislation which needs to be repealed, but this is not the time to, or just manufacturing firearms
[22:44.320 --> 22:51.120]  with this device from 80% lowers without having a serial number, this is not the time or the place
[22:51.120 --> 22:58.640]  to do something like that, than trying to advocate to get the state laws changed to allow for
[22:58.640 --> 23:05.840]  essentially de facto constitutional carry of a handgun without the need of a concealed
[23:05.840 --> 23:10.640]  handgun license, open carry or concealed.
[23:10.640 --> 23:22.560]  All right. Eddie, do you have anything on that or? Well, the problem with any law is that the
[23:22.560 --> 23:29.280]  moment it's put in law, it's subject to alteration by anybody else. They can repeal it, they can
[23:29.280 --> 23:35.200]  amend it, they can limit it. My question first and foremost would be, where do you people think
[23:35.200 --> 23:42.480]  you have the power and authority from us, the real people, to take away our right to keep and bear
[23:42.480 --> 23:50.240]  arms in public, concealed or not concealed in the first place? Because the second sentence in the
[23:50.240 --> 23:56.320]  right to keep and bear arms amendment that they put into the 1876 constitution has nothing to do
[23:56.320 --> 24:01.040]  with the people. The second sentence where it says, the state shall have the right to regulate
[24:01.040 --> 24:06.080]  the wearing of arms with an eye toward the prevention of crime. That's saying they can arm
[24:06.080 --> 24:11.520]  the cops to operate on behalf of the state. Ain't got nothing to do with the people because our
[24:11.520 --> 24:17.360]  right to keep and bear arms didn't come from the constitution. We had it anyway. Therefore,
[24:17.360 --> 24:26.400]  the constitution can't take it away any more than their statutes can. That's my opinion on it.
[24:26.400 --> 24:33.360]  And like you said, it goes all the way back to the late 1876 during Reconstruction and the fact that
[24:33.360 --> 24:41.680]  it was actually originally a racist law to prevent the freed slaves from being able to
[24:44.320 --> 24:49.200]  bear arms for their own protection. And the fact that there's all these weird quirks in it
[24:49.200 --> 24:54.400]  currently where you can open carry constitutionally a long gun, that's just fine, but a pistol you
[24:54.400 --> 25:00.640]  can't open carry at all with a concealed handgun license or not. So absolutely, this needs to be
[25:01.760 --> 25:08.000]  basically repealing back all this draconian legislation from two centuries ago. That is
[25:08.000 --> 25:16.240]  exactly what HB 195 is supposed to do. I do understand you're taking this and I agree with
[25:16.240 --> 25:21.200]  that wholeheartedly. If you go to the second amendment of the constitution of the United
[25:21.200 --> 25:27.680]  States, there's the rights of this since the bearer army shall now be infringed to maintain a free
[25:27.680 --> 25:35.120]  state. Yeah. Well, the thing about it is in order for this to actually have an effect in Texas,
[25:35.120 --> 25:40.160]  someone's going to have to step up and do the exact same thing the folks in DC did. Someone is
[25:40.160 --> 25:45.760]  going to have to get charged under the Texas law and take it to the Supreme Court for the Supreme
[25:45.760 --> 25:50.080]  Court to say, what's wrong with you idiots? Which part about what we did in DC are you not
[25:50.080 --> 25:57.840]  understanding in Texas? The people's right to keep and bear arms goes everywhere, not just here in
[25:57.840 --> 26:07.040]  DC or not just over there in that state, but everywhere. Exactly. Because otherwise we'll
[26:07.040 --> 26:13.520]  end up like Europe or Australia or some of these other states, which just have their freedoms eroded.
[26:13.520 --> 26:20.720]  Well, if you go by the federal constitution and believe it was still in force in effect, even if
[26:20.720 --> 26:26.480]  that is true, the problem remains the same about what I was saying at the very beginning, how
[26:26.480 --> 26:34.240]  apathetic we've become to allow this to even become necessary. Exactly. Every single law in
[26:34.240 --> 26:45.440]  every single Republic or DC, which is not either, is absolutely unconstitutional under the provisions
[26:45.440 --> 26:52.720]  of the second amendment. I don't care what the law pretends to do. Registration, background checks,
[26:52.720 --> 27:00.880]  types of ammunition, rate of fire, weight, barrel length, capacity, every single one of them is
[27:00.880 --> 27:09.280]  unconstitutional. And you know what all it would take to solve that problem is for somebody that
[27:09.280 --> 27:16.480]  actually believed in the right of people to keep and bear arms to get elected president and set up
[27:16.480 --> 27:24.640]  a presidential amnesty program that gave a presidential pardon to every single person that
[27:24.640 --> 27:31.360]  qualified for a firearm conviction. Now, I'm not talking about those people that used a gun to
[27:31.360 --> 27:37.680]  commit a crime, rob a bank, rob a store, kill somebody, not talking about laws that hold people
[27:37.680 --> 27:42.800]  accountable for that. I am talking about the ones that prevent you from owning them in the first
[27:42.800 --> 27:49.040]  place or buying them or selling them or getting them without somebody else's permission. Right,
[27:49.040 --> 27:57.280]  because it's like putting a vertical foregrip on a pistol or a stock on a pistol. It's ridiculous,
[27:57.280 --> 28:04.640]  all these regulations that they have right now. But it's the kind of thing where you have the ATF
[28:04.640 --> 28:10.560]  and they, or this is not just exclusive to the ATF, any law enforcement agency, where they just
[28:10.560 --> 28:15.440]  pick and choose how they interpret the law. And that's just absolutely ridiculous.
[28:15.440 --> 28:22.320]  Well, I believe right now that we could charge every single member of Congress, Obama, and every
[28:22.320 --> 28:29.200]  member of his cabinet with treason. Why? Giving aid and comfort to the enemy. The moment they began
[28:29.200 --> 28:34.800]  deconstructing the protections of the constitutions, they not only committed sedition by
[28:34.800 --> 28:41.200]  attempting to alter our basic form of government, they committed treason by helping the enemies of
[28:41.200 --> 28:48.480]  America do exactly what they set out to do. Exactly. And that includes the Federal Reserve Act.
[28:51.040 --> 28:57.600]  Well, that goes way beyond any of the rest of it. But the point is, is without all of those things
[28:57.600 --> 29:03.520]  and without the Federal Reserve to print money at an unlimited supply, they couldn't wage the wars
[29:03.520 --> 29:10.880]  and battles they do because they couldn't afford to. Exactly. But then they just get the money
[29:10.880 --> 29:16.560]  printed and then they foist off the expense of paying it back on us. When in fact, there's
[29:16.560 --> 29:23.520]  nothing to pay back. The debt is a fricking imaginary joke because there is no debt. The
[29:23.520 --> 29:31.920]  money that they're saying exists came out of thin air. So let's let the debt go back into thin air.
[29:35.600 --> 29:38.720]  Eddie, it was a pleasure for being on your show this week.
[29:38.720 --> 29:42.000]  All right. Well, thanks for the announcement and the facts of what's going on tomorrow,
[29:42.000 --> 29:47.680]  Leland. Hopefully, I'll get to see you down there. Absolutely. See you soon, Eddie. All right. Have
[29:47.680 --> 29:55.520]  a good night. All right, folks. This is Rule of Law Radio 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[33:15.680 --> 33:42.800]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio, caller number 512-646-1984. We got several
[33:42.800 --> 33:47.520]  callers up on the board. All right, folks, I do not have a call screener at the moment, so before I
[33:47.520 --> 33:54.560]  start taking your calls, listen carefully. Please do not curse. Please do not be using Bluetooth,
[33:54.560 --> 34:00.240]  speaker phones, or anything that isn't directly talking into the telephone, as you will be
[34:00.240 --> 34:05.600]  difficult to understand, not only to me, but to the listeners. And Deborah does not like the quality
[34:05.600 --> 34:12.000]  that makes it in the recording. So please be considerate of all of us, and have a phone that
[34:12.000 --> 34:18.400]  you can be talking directly into. That being said, if you do slip up and say something wrong,
[34:18.960 --> 34:25.600]  Deborah's going to pound you at some point, and be expecting that. So don't do it. All right,
[34:25.600 --> 34:30.640]  that being said, let's go to Jimmy in Maryland. Jimmy, what can we do for you?
[34:32.160 --> 34:36.480]  All right, Eddie, how you been doing? So far, so grand, except for the spat of
[34:36.480 --> 34:40.720]  cold weather we got going on. But it probably ain't got much candle to where you're at,
[34:40.720 --> 34:46.560]  though, does it? No, it's been pretty cold. We had some cold spells here the last three or four days.
[34:46.560 --> 34:51.520]  Yeah, I actually had to work up there in Rockville, Maryland, for Sprint for a while,
[34:51.520 --> 34:55.200]  and over in Centerville, Virginia, is where I was staying, and plus commuting back and
[34:55.200 --> 34:58.480]  forth to D.C. every day. I was up there for a little over a year doing that.
[34:59.680 --> 35:04.800]  Wow. That's something, man. I wish I had known you when you was up here, boy, I tell you.
[35:04.800 --> 35:14.080]  Yeah. Let me try to give you a brief of my situation. I'm recto pain. I turned my
[35:14.080 --> 35:21.600]  driver's license in back in 1998. Okay. You told me that they will retro-activate
[35:22.240 --> 35:26.960]  my license to injury, which is a crime, which is what's going on here in Charles County.
[35:26.960 --> 35:37.360]  Yep. Now, last, not this past Sunday, but last Sunday, I was involved in an auto accident.
[35:37.360 --> 35:43.280]  Somebody hit me. When the police came on the scene, the first thing the police,
[35:43.280 --> 35:48.720]  you know, the police officer, you know, was always ready for driver's license, insurance,
[35:48.720 --> 35:53.520]  and registration. I gave my documentation. I have an extra-constructional notice,
[35:53.520 --> 35:57.680]  extra-constructive notice that I, that I sent you certified mail to the
[35:57.680 --> 36:05.920]  NBA musical administration back in 1999. I showed him that. I showed him that. Plus, he ran it.
[36:05.920 --> 36:11.040]  Check on that. Before he did all that, the first thing, he's already biased against me.
[36:11.040 --> 36:15.760]  He told me and the person I was involved with that he's going to charge me for everything.
[36:15.760 --> 36:20.400]  Didn't even find out what was going on. He just told everybody he's going to charge me
[36:20.400 --> 36:25.840]  with everything. And so when the young lady... You will make me really happy if you will tell
[36:25.840 --> 36:32.960]  me you were recording all of it. No, I wish I was. I wish I was.
[36:32.960 --> 36:35.440]  Wrong answer, Jimmy. Yeah.
[36:37.760 --> 36:42.960]  I know, but I still feel I have a, you know, once I show the diagrams and everything,
[36:42.960 --> 36:48.160]  you can clearly see that she hit me. I didn't hit her. I mean, it clearly shows how the
[36:48.160 --> 36:53.520]  side of my car is hit. Okay. Let me explain something to you. We have videos of cops murdering
[36:53.520 --> 37:00.720]  people in all manner of ways, shooting them, strangling them, running over them with cars.
[37:00.720 --> 37:04.800]  And these guys aren't going to jail. What makes you think they're going to go to jail in your case
[37:04.800 --> 37:12.080]  for committing aggravated perjury? And we'll either not show the video of what happened
[37:12.080 --> 37:19.440]  and everything that will be brought up will be specifically between the cop and the person on
[37:19.440 --> 37:24.080]  the other side against you. Well, how do you think that's going to play out?
[37:27.680 --> 37:30.240]  How do I think it's going to play out? I asked you first.
[37:33.920 --> 37:37.440]  That's a good question. I'm not really sure. I'm just going to, like I said,
[37:37.440 --> 37:43.120]  do what I know to bring out how the accident really happened and really show the consistency
[37:43.120 --> 37:47.520]  of what I'll say will not be considered what they're saying. They're trying to say something
[37:47.520 --> 37:53.680]  that's crazy that I pulled into a lane of uncoming cars, which is crazy. If I did that,
[37:53.680 --> 38:00.880]  I'd have to back up. And it just sounds crazy. Yeah, but you don't know exactly what they're
[38:00.880 --> 38:05.840]  going to say the cause of the situation was, do you? You can guess, but you don't know for sure.
[38:05.840 --> 38:09.280]  Yeah. Well, I know he signed into improper lane change.
[38:12.240 --> 38:16.320]  Okay. So I have some degree of what he's talking about in the improper lanes. He's trying to say
[38:16.320 --> 38:24.560]  that I went into the lane of uncoming cars, which is crazy. Well, okay. Let me give you
[38:24.560 --> 38:28.240]  another example. And I'm not trying to rain on your parade and your potential here, but
[38:28.240 --> 38:31.680]  listen carefully to what I'm trying to get you to understand about how this can actually work.
[38:31.680 --> 38:39.600]  I helped a young lady here three, four years ago with a case that she had where the police tried
[38:39.600 --> 38:48.960]  to charge her with road rage. When in fact, she had been on the inside lane, traveling in one
[38:48.960 --> 38:55.120]  direction on a two lane street or a four lanes, well, an access road, something like that. Anyway,
[38:55.120 --> 39:03.280]  she was all in the right. While she was traveling, some kid in an SUV come flying out of a parking
[39:03.280 --> 39:07.600]  lot, barely missed her car coming out of the parking lot, and then proceeded to go in the
[39:07.600 --> 39:14.800]  same direction that she did down the street. But he was in the lane to the left of her.
[39:15.920 --> 39:21.760]  Well, just as they were approaching an intersection at a light, he decided he wanted to turn right at
[39:21.760 --> 39:28.720]  the light. So he began before they got to the light and went right over the front end of her car on
[39:28.720 --> 39:36.640]  the driver's side wheel and everything with his SUV and hooked her car in front of his passenger
[39:36.640 --> 39:46.720]  side front or passenger side rear tire under the SUV. And the cops tried to blame it on her, even
[39:46.720 --> 39:54.400]  though his tire marks are on her fender and the description of the damage and everything
[39:55.360 --> 40:00.160]  shows very clearly that what they're trying to charge her with could not have possibly
[40:00.160 --> 40:08.960]  happened. The laws of physics would have prevented it. Because they tried to claim that she hit him
[40:08.960 --> 40:15.200]  in the rear, which means her car would have had to have spun around 180 degrees.
[40:15.200 --> 40:24.320]  And then slammed into him by changing direction in 90 degrees to hit him in the rear.
[40:26.240 --> 40:27.040]  You follow?
[40:28.160 --> 40:33.600]  Yes, they took her all the way to the day of trial trying to make that story stick.
[40:36.320 --> 40:42.400]  But I helped her beat them because we caught them with their hand in the cookie jar. They were
[40:42.400 --> 40:50.400]  tampering with the court record, and we caught them. So they dropped the case the day we went in for
[40:50.400 --> 40:58.400]  trial. So expect the unexpected and expect the ridiculous.
[40:59.920 --> 41:04.640]  Okay, that will. Well, actually, that's already happened. You know, Gary, he admitted right in
[41:04.640 --> 41:06.080]  front of us before he did.
[41:06.080 --> 41:09.520]  Yeah, but who's going to testify to that? You think he's going to testify to that?
[41:09.520 --> 41:15.040]  No, no. And if you're the only one that will, and it's two against one, who's going to get
[41:15.040 --> 41:22.640]  believed? The cop and the person that got injured. I don't say injured, but their property damaged or
[41:22.640 --> 41:26.800]  whatever, and the cops backing them up against you, who's going to get believed?
[41:28.960 --> 41:37.120]  So let me throw this out there one more time. Don't leave home without a working author.
[41:37.120 --> 41:42.560]  Home without a working audio video recorder ever.
[41:44.560 --> 41:44.960]  Okay.
[41:49.120 --> 41:51.680]  Okay. So what is your plan on this?
[41:53.600 --> 41:59.760]  Well, I was just basically sharing what my plan is. Okay, he gave me, he signed me three things,
[41:59.760 --> 42:07.840]  improper lane change, suspended license, and registration. And of course, you know, like I
[42:07.840 --> 42:15.760]  said, I didn't tell him anything. And I gave him my, you know, my actual construction notice.
[42:15.760 --> 42:21.040]  It's all they had. So I went to the street that I, you know, was engaged in transportation,
[42:21.040 --> 42:26.720]  that I was traveling. And like I said, he had nothing that showed me admitting to being involved
[42:26.720 --> 42:31.920]  in cab transfer, that even threatened all the driver's license, no insurance, no registration.
[42:31.920 --> 42:39.280]  Well, let me give you a couple things to look at. First and foremost, as far as all this goes,
[42:41.040 --> 42:45.120]  you're going to need a copy of the driving record to show when they actually alleged to have
[42:45.120 --> 42:50.800]  suspended your license. Because if the license isn't actually suspended, that's a bogus charge,
[42:50.800 --> 43:00.160]  isn't it? And if the record shows that you relinquished it way back when and they suspended it
[43:01.200 --> 43:07.520]  yesterday, they have another problem. If they go back and mark it suspended a month ago,
[43:07.520 --> 43:12.560]  they've got a problem. Especially if it's marked on a date after it had already expired.
[43:14.880 --> 43:20.560]  Okay. At some points, where are they going to put in the paperwork that we've actually shown
[43:20.560 --> 43:24.560]  that it ever got suspended? There won't be any supporting paperwork if they're just tampering
[43:24.560 --> 43:31.200]  with the computer. Okay. All right. Second thing is in relation to registration. Here in Texas,
[43:31.200 --> 43:37.280]  there are actually two chapters that relate to that, which is 501 and 502 of the transportation
[43:37.280 --> 43:41.440]  code. But I'll cover that here in just a second when we get back, okay? But I want to give you
[43:41.440 --> 43:46.080]  a heads up on what you may want to go try and look for because it may help you out. So hang on just
[43:46.080 --> 43:52.160]  a minute. We'll be right back, okay? All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio. The calling
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[46:14.480 --> 46:32.400]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio, and we are talking to Jimmy in Maryland.
[46:32.400 --> 46:36.000]  All right, Jimmy, let me wrap this up for you here real quick on how it works here to give
[46:36.000 --> 46:40.960]  you an idea of what to be looking for there. All right, in Texas, when it comes to registration,
[46:40.960 --> 46:46.080]  the two chapters in the transportation code relating to this is 501 and 502. 501 deals
[46:46.080 --> 46:51.920]  with certificates of title. 502 deals with the actual registration. 501 for the certificate
[46:51.920 --> 47:00.720]  of title specifically says it's only required by state-owned vehicles. Nobody else gets a
[47:00.720 --> 47:09.760]  certificate of title. Therefore, registration applies only to who when you must have the
[47:09.760 --> 47:21.440]  certificate of title in order to register. It applies to the state. Exactly. If only
[47:21.440 --> 47:28.800]  state-owned vehicles are required to obtain and have a certificate of title, which is
[47:28.800 --> 47:37.920]  how it's written right into 501, then the certificate of title is a requirement of
[47:37.920 --> 47:52.480]  registering a motor vehicle in 502. Who has to register? The state. Exactly. See, here in Texas,
[47:52.480 --> 47:59.600]  the original purpose of the Motor Vehicle Registration Act was to track down the theft
[47:59.600 --> 48:06.880]  of motor vehicles and prevent it. It became a voluntary service to the public,
[48:06.880 --> 48:13.120]  but it was mandatory for all vehicles owned by the state, so if they were stolen, they could be
[48:13.120 --> 48:20.800]  tracked. It had nothing to do with the general public as far as being mandatory, and it still
[48:20.800 --> 48:25.440]  doesn't. Then, of course, you have the driver's license statute here in Texas.
[48:26.080 --> 48:32.800]  The original enactment under 6701 of Vernon's annotated civil statutes has three licenses,
[48:32.800 --> 48:40.640]  operators, commercial operators, and chauffeurs. In the current driver's license codification in
[48:40.640 --> 48:46.800]  the transportation code, it's defined as one of three things, an occupational license,
[48:49.360 --> 48:57.920]  what we call a learner's permit, and the temporary license. When you go through the statute chapter
[48:57.920 --> 49:04.560]  of chapter 521, you will find out all three of those licenses are the same thing. They're
[49:04.560 --> 49:11.760]  temporary. They're not permanent. They're not even semi-permanent. They have a very short lifespan.
[49:14.080 --> 49:21.600]  They all are classified as temporary licenses. It is impossible for any person
[49:21.600 --> 49:30.000]  permanently domiciled in Texas to comply with the driver's license chapter. Impossible. You
[49:30.000 --> 49:39.040]  would actually be committing a crime if you get a license called a driver's license in Texas,
[49:39.040 --> 49:47.200]  and you live here. I proved that in class using their own statutes. I proved that in
[49:47.200 --> 49:55.760]  class this past Sunday. Those are the things you're going to want to look for. What kind
[49:55.760 --> 49:59.840]  of license are they saying you have to have? What's the definition of that license? Okay,
[49:59.840 --> 50:05.680]  if it includes a specific list of licenses, then what is the criteria for each of those licenses,
[50:05.680 --> 50:12.240]  and which one are they saying you don't actually have? If they're all classified as temporary,
[50:12.240 --> 50:19.440]  then how do you obtain a temporary license when you live there permanently? Because in Texas,
[50:19.440 --> 50:27.040]  it's a crime to fill out a licensing application with false information. Based upon the criteria
[50:27.040 --> 50:33.040]  required in the application to get any of these three licenses, you would in fact be falsifying
[50:33.040 --> 50:41.600]  a government document by applying if you live here. The statutes here in Texas create a
[50:41.600 --> 50:48.960]  statutory impossibility. They cannot compel you to commit a crime to exercise a privilege
[50:48.960 --> 50:56.480]  to avoid a lesser crime, because the crime you would be committing is a Class A up to a year in
[50:56.480 --> 51:06.880]  jail in order to escape a Class C fine only. See the problem there? You're risking a year in jail
[51:06.880 --> 51:12.880]  to avoid a $200 fine. They're both punitive actions, and it's impossible to do one and not
[51:12.880 --> 51:19.280]  the other. Yes, but that's the way you use an attorney termination. You use it properly to
[51:19.280 --> 51:26.480]  do some jail time. Lose your job, lose your life and all that. Yeah, and that's part of the problem.
[51:26.480 --> 51:35.440]  We were never meant to be regulated by these statutes. Okay. But that's the argument that
[51:35.440 --> 51:40.160]  I'm making right now, of course, only applies if you're going to have to fight this on merits.
[51:41.200 --> 51:47.520]  You can win these cases on merits if you know what the statutes say. It's not the
[51:47.520 --> 51:54.000]  best option to get rid of the entire system, but you can beat it on merits if you know how
[51:54.000 --> 52:06.960]  to argue the merits. I have an under record that it was terminated and destroyed back in 98. So
[52:06.960 --> 52:11.680]  the termination story does not exist. So it does not exist. You can't retroactivate stuff and try
[52:11.680 --> 52:17.200]  to say that it's still suspended from that agreement or contract. And also I have a
[52:17.200 --> 52:23.760]  I thought I did this back in 99. I had a suspended license with the judge agreed and found me not
[52:23.760 --> 52:29.680]  guilty. So this is kind of like a double jeopardy type of thing here. Well, no, it's a different
[52:29.680 --> 52:41.120]  event. It's a different event. It cannot stem, it cannot be the same charge from the same action.
[52:41.120 --> 52:47.280]  It has to be a separate action. Otherwise, any person found not guilty of murder could go out
[52:47.280 --> 52:53.040]  and murder forever and nobody could touch him, right? Okay, well, I'm thinking on this level,
[52:53.040 --> 53:01.600]  it's the same license. But it's a different fact pattern. The facts are not identical,
[53:01.600 --> 53:06.640]  the parties are not identical. Okay, but it's still, we're still talking about
[53:06.640 --> 53:15.520]  Well, actually, I take that back. If I take that back. If the theory of double jeopardy is,
[53:15.520 --> 53:21.360]  is that it cannot be the same fact pattern between the same parties. If the state came against you
[53:21.360 --> 53:28.880]  in the first instance, and you won, and the state comes back at you in the in another instance for
[53:28.880 --> 53:36.640]  the exact same thing. It's the same parties. It's the same fact pattern. You might have a double
[53:36.640 --> 53:39.600]  jeopardy issue. You just might. Okay.
[53:42.400 --> 53:47.360]  I'm staying over the same record. In my letter, and I can bring it up to the court, I notified them
[53:47.360 --> 53:52.320]  to correct their record as it relates to me and move me out of that system. Of course, they did
[53:52.320 --> 53:57.200]  nothing. They just did not do anything. Yeah. And they usually do that. Well, they don't do anything.
[53:57.200 --> 54:02.640]  They don't because there's nothing in the law that lets them do what you requested.
[54:03.520 --> 54:08.800]  They can only do what the law has told them they can do. The law doesn't have any way to take you
[54:08.800 --> 54:15.040]  out of the system, unless you lose your license or your debt. It doesn't have a way of saying
[54:15.040 --> 54:29.120]  remove by request. It's not like a DOR in the SEALs. So that's what I'm looking at with that,
[54:29.120 --> 54:34.480]  you know, fighting this thing. And also I had a show call hearing that, and I'll take it out of
[54:34.480 --> 54:41.120]  it. I pulled up for a show call hearing back in the beginning of December. On the same week that
[54:41.120 --> 54:49.040]  I was supposed to go, I got a letter in the mail, like you mentioned, about this summons that I
[54:49.040 --> 54:54.480]  was going to go there in March. Didn't receive nothing or sign up that anybody request or wanted
[54:54.480 --> 55:00.880]  it moved to another date. I just received the summons that is going to be there in March.
[55:01.600 --> 55:06.400]  Right. That's another thing they do is they ask for continuances and reschedulings,
[55:06.400 --> 55:12.080]  and they never serve you in these types of cases. They just do it and then say,
[55:12.080 --> 55:14.560]  hey, we changed everything. We're just letting you know now.
[55:15.120 --> 55:18.880]  You never have a chance to go in and say, I'm sorry. I don't agree with that.
[55:21.840 --> 55:27.440]  That's a due process issue right there. Well, not unless you can show a harm
[55:27.440 --> 55:34.320]  resulted from it. For instance, had you not been in country when that was done,
[55:34.320 --> 55:40.000]  and then they tried to issue a warrant because you didn't appear, and you were relying on a
[55:40.000 --> 55:45.600]  different timeframe based upon prior information, and they did this without giving you any notice.
[55:46.720 --> 55:50.720]  Now you would have suffered a harm if you came back and got arrested on a warrant they issued.
[55:52.080 --> 56:03.440]  I understand all that, but you're not paying attention to my point of this. You have to have
[56:03.440 --> 56:09.680]  you have to have some harm caused by their failure to notify you before anybody's going
[56:09.680 --> 56:14.880]  to pay any attention to it. The harm in this case would have been the issuance of a warrant
[56:14.880 --> 56:20.240]  and the arrest on said warrant. That would have been the harm for which
[56:20.240 --> 56:24.960]  improper notice would have flown. After the fact, right?
[56:24.960 --> 56:30.560]  Yeah. It's always after the fact. You can't claim a harm before there's one, can you?
[56:30.560 --> 56:38.000]  No. Now, I disagree with the principle that we
[56:38.000 --> 56:42.800]  should not be able to challenge something before particular types of harm are inflicted,
[56:43.920 --> 56:48.720]  because when it comes to our public servants and our constitutionally protected rights to demand
[56:48.720 --> 56:54.720]  that our public servants obey the Constitution and respect our rights, we should not have to
[56:54.720 --> 57:01.920]  wait for an injury to enforce that. If they enact a statute or a law or anything else that would even
[57:02.720 --> 57:08.720]  give a hint of violating that, we the people should have the power to march right up there
[57:08.720 --> 57:13.840]  and sue and say, oh, no, you don't. That ain't going to happen without us doing something about it.
[57:15.520 --> 57:22.400]  But instead, somebody has to take the risk of going to jail or suffering a fine or whatever
[57:22.400 --> 57:27.920]  other punitive action is attached to it in order to have standing to fight something that we put
[57:27.920 --> 57:34.640]  in writing from the very beginning saying, you can't do this. I have a problem with that.
[57:36.160 --> 57:39.120]  I do too. I do too.
[57:43.280 --> 57:45.280]  So, okay, anything else?
[57:45.280 --> 57:52.640]  No, that's it. That's it for me. I appreciate what you gave me here. I got to do some things here
[57:52.640 --> 57:57.120]  and I can do some things and see what I can do. Like I said, I can expect to see some feedback
[57:57.120 --> 58:01.280]  for anything when this thing comes out. All right. Well, hang in there and good
[58:01.280 --> 58:06.080]  luck. Study up on those statutes I gave you. Definitely. Thank you very much.
[58:06.080 --> 58:10.080]  You're welcome. All right. Bye-bye. All right. Jeff, Truth Raider, Josh,
[58:10.080 --> 58:13.440]  y'all hang on there. I'll pick you up on the other side of the top of the hour break. This
[58:13.440 --> 58:17.440]  one's about four minutes long. So if y'all hang on, I'll get you when we get back.
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[01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:31.680]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. All right, now we're going to go to
[01:03:31.680 --> 01:03:38.480]  Jeff in Mississippi. Jeff, what can we do for you? Hey, Eddie, thanks for having me on. Yes, sir.
[01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:46.160]  And just to speed the listeners up, about four years ago, I was arrested on the campus of
[01:03:46.160 --> 01:03:51.680]  Mississippi State University for having a rifle. I was in some apartments across the streets,
[01:03:51.680 --> 01:03:59.040]  and I went to court, fired my attorney, represented myself, was able to hang the jury the first time
[01:03:59.040 --> 01:04:03.760]  because no one ever brought the land title or the lease to the apartments to the court.
[01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:10.800]  I had my second trial and the DA told the jury that I could have killed all their students
[01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:17.200]  with a sniper rifle, so they convicted me. And I did a year in the penitentiary, got out,
[01:04:17.200 --> 01:04:23.920]  got out, and then won my appeal. And the court granted me or remanded my trial back to the
[01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:29.200]  circuit court. And so that's where I'm at now. The circuit court has been
[01:04:29.200 --> 01:04:36.080]  postponing my trial for about the last nine months. So where I'm at now is I'm going to
[01:04:36.080 --> 01:04:44.000]  go into my motions hearing tomorrow morning at the courthouse. However, here in Mississippi,
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:51.120]  courts don't run full time because of the very small population. They'll open up shop for two
[01:04:51.120 --> 01:04:56.240]  weeks, and then they'll pack up and leave and move on to the next county. So the courthouse will be...
[01:04:56.240 --> 01:05:01.360]  Yeah, Mississippi courts are kind of like a traveling carnival in more ways than one.
[01:05:02.720 --> 01:05:06.960]  The courthouse will be closed down. You can always walk in and talk to the clerk,
[01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:13.600]  but all the courtrooms and stuff are shut. They have my motions hearing scheduled tomorrow
[01:05:13.600 --> 01:05:16.560]  while the court is closed. We don't even have term here.
[01:05:17.600 --> 01:05:24.640]  And so I'm not sure what's going to happen. I don't want somebody to be hiding in there
[01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:30.240]  and then arrest me for having marijuana on me or something, but I've never actually encountered that.
[01:05:31.120 --> 01:05:36.720]  Well, I would recommend having someone go with you, several someones if possible,
[01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:46.000]  and everybody be recording something. Okay. Okay. Well, we'll try to do that.
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:50.880]  I mean, how did they schedule you for court when there's no court?
[01:05:53.040 --> 01:05:57.920]  Well, first of all, they sent me a continuance, and this has been months ago, and it just has
[01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:03.280]  the date and time. And I actually showed up to the court today and the clerk said,
[01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:07.120]  oh, we're closed for the next two weeks. We don't even start term for two weeks.
[01:06:07.120 --> 01:06:10.320]  And I said the same thing. How are we going to have this?
[01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:13.520]  And she said, oh, the judge is going to come in and have a day for motions,
[01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:18.480]  which means he's going to come in, bring a court reporter in, the district attorney is going to
[01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:22.480]  come in, bailiffs are going to come in. All just to hear me and a couple of other people
[01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:28.960]  have motions doesn't make sense. Well, maybe not. But if they actually do it,
[01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:35.040]  that's a good thing, right? Okay. So I may show up in the courts closed.
[01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:42.160]  And if they try to continue it, it makes sense that they would come out and then try to continue
[01:06:42.160 --> 01:06:45.520]  it. And I think they're just trying to continue this thing till the end of the world.
[01:06:46.720 --> 01:06:51.360]  That could be true. They have you in the system. They don't like letting go once that happens.
[01:06:51.360 --> 01:07:00.400]  Yes. And when I got out of jail, I went straight to the apartment or to the courthouse
[01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.480]  and got the land title for the apartments. And it turns out that the apartments were private
[01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:08.240]  property because they're across the street. They're actually not on the campus.
[01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:13.840]  Right. Which we argued about the first time around that most likely they weren't.
[01:07:15.600 --> 01:07:18.640]  Yes. So I'm going to walk in and show the jury the land title.
[01:07:18.640 --> 01:07:23.200]  And chances are the DA is not going to do too well in court. So it's probably better
[01:07:23.200 --> 01:07:31.120]  for them if they just keep postponing my trial. Okay. But here's the thing. You have a valid
[01:07:31.120 --> 01:07:38.640]  complaint against the prosecuting attorney for secreting exculpatory evidence. The prosecuting
[01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:46.400]  attorney knew that the law required that that property be owned by the university for the
[01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:55.040]  charge to stick. He never brought that out at trial. Did he? He just kept arguing. Ladies
[01:07:55.040 --> 01:08:00.400]  and gentlemen, we all know the campus owns the property. Exactly. And he knew better.
[01:08:01.040 --> 01:08:12.400]  He lied in open court. That's prosecutorial misconduct. Good. Okay. Now if I do have my
[01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:18.720]  hearing tomorrow, here's a tactic that they use all of the time that still kind of stumps me.
[01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:25.920]  And that is when I'm trying to talk, they'll interrupt. And a lot of times the DA will start
[01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:30.960]  going off on some kind of tangent that he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
[01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:35.200]  So why don't you just ask the court, if it please the court, could you tell these people
[01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:38.800]  to just sit down and shut up unless they have an actual real objection?
[01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:44.800]  Great. Okay. You can ask the court to do that. Put a muzzle on the dog over here.
[01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:50.720]  Okay, good. Now let me ask you one other question about your original trial and the information
[01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:58.240]  relating to who owned the property. Did he put anyone on the stand and ask them who owned the
[01:08:58.240 --> 01:09:06.960]  property? Yes. Then that's suborning perjury right there. That is suborning perjury.
[01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:14.960]  That is one of the worst offenses a prosecutor can commit. Okay. Is there any chance that they
[01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:21.680]  could tangle out of it like we all know that? All you need to do to prove it, irrefutably,
[01:09:22.240 --> 01:09:27.360]  is to show that they have possession or should have had possession of the land title.
[01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:34.080]  Okay. If you can show that the DA actually knew the land title was not the university's
[01:09:34.080 --> 01:09:39.200]  name and put someone on the stand to testify that it was, that's suborning perjury.
[01:09:40.240 --> 01:09:51.040]  All right. Okay. Last question is the DA, for the last trial, got up during the closing arguments
[01:09:52.240 --> 01:09:57.280]  and told everybody that I was a sniper and I could have murdered people and stuff.
[01:09:57.280 --> 01:10:01.120]  Did you object? No.
[01:10:01.120 --> 01:10:06.000]  Objection. Prejudicial.
[01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:11.440]  Prejudicial. He is fabricating a
[01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:17.280]  prejudicial statement to cast aspersions on you in front of the jury. Don't ever
[01:10:17.280 --> 01:10:20.080]  let them get away with doing that. Good.
[01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:28.000]  Objection. Hey, is the prosecutor going to tell the jury about how he molested little
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:34.320]  kids at the Dairy Queen on Sunday? Throw it right back in his face.
[01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:39.840]  Okay. Because if he's going to deny that,
[01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:45.120]  then he better be willing to tell you that he's also fabricating this entire sniper business about
[01:10:45.120 --> 01:11:02.400]  me. Can I also go for counsel of testifying? He's not testifying. He is completely out of line
[01:11:02.400 --> 01:11:12.000]  by doing that, but you've got to call him on it. He is doing open character assassination in court
[01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:17.680]  without any evidence of any kind. That's good.
[01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:30.240]  But you have to object to it being prejudicial. He is making false statements that are highly
[01:11:30.240 --> 01:11:36.720]  prejudicial to the defense, so unless he's willing to confess to being a child molester
[01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:43.200]  at the Dairy Queen on Sunday, I move to have this guy sanctioned right now.
[01:11:48.480 --> 01:11:55.600]  Okay. Sanctioned. All right. That's it. Just cut and dry and simple.
[01:11:56.160 --> 01:11:59.520]  It should be. It provided you're not asleep over there.
[01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:05.680]  No. Just some simple things where I'm just not really sure what area to turn to.
[01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:08.480]  I just cleared it up really well. Okay.
[01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  So I will give you a call. Hopefully they don't throw me in jail and claim that I have marijuana
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.840]  on me or something. That does kind of frighten me. Well, what you need to do,
[01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:27.360]  have this ready tomorrow if you can. You can write this tonight and get ready to file it tomorrow
[01:12:27.360 --> 01:12:32.880]  and put it in front of the judge. Write you a discovery motion asking the court to order
[01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:40.480]  the prosecution to turn over any copies of the land title in their possession or to give you
[01:12:40.480 --> 01:12:47.680]  an interrogatory stating whether or not they knew of the existence of the land title.
[01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:56.160]  Got it. Okay. We'll do that. Or actually, well, interrogatory,
[01:12:56.160 --> 01:13:01.040]  yeah, or a request for admissions. It can be called either or in some cases,
[01:13:01.040 --> 01:13:04.800]  but you want them to admit that they knew it existed and that they had it.
[01:13:06.080 --> 01:13:12.240]  Because the moment that that was the fact and they put that person on the stand to testify falsely,
[01:13:12.240 --> 01:13:15.120]  that's a morning perjury and that can send them to prison.
[01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:22.800]  Great. I love it. I'm ready to go in there and break somebody's arm.
[01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:30.960]  Well, don't do that. At least not literally, figuratively break every bone in their body.
[01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:36.000]  Yeah, I'm ready to jump. I'm not afraid anymore. They've already sent me to jail.
[01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:40.000]  So what are they going to do now? Well, there's not much they can do if
[01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:43.840]  the conviction was overturned. Sending you back could be double jeopardy. But the problem they've
[01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:48.640]  got now is preventing you from getting the evidence that would throw the prosecutor under
[01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:53.520]  the bus and everybody that worked with him to make it happen. And I think that's why they're
[01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:58.240]  continuing the case until Oh, absolutely. They're doing whatever they can to protect
[01:13:58.240 --> 01:14:01.040]  their part of the system. Okay.
[01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:08.080]  Good, good, good. Okay. Thank you. I will call you in a week or two and tell you how
[01:14:08.080 --> 01:14:10.480]  what happened. All right. Well, good luck. Hang in there.
[01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:13.840]  Thanks, Eddie. You're welcome. Have a good night.
[01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:23.120]  All right. Now we're going to go to truth Raider Raider. I've got about 245 before break. So shoot.
[01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:27.200]  Happy New Year, Eddie. Happy New Year to you.
[01:14:28.080 --> 01:14:33.200]  Thanks, sir. Yeah, I got some great news. I just saved a bunch of money on my
[01:14:33.200 --> 01:14:36.720]  insurance by switching to nothing. Well, that's cool.
[01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:46.960]  Cool. No buck beers, no cartoon generals, no flows, no geckos, no cavemen, and no bull.
[01:14:48.160 --> 01:14:52.160]  Well, all right. So I thought that would be pretty good.
[01:14:52.160 --> 01:14:54.560]  I mean, they're always advertising. You can save a bunch of money on your insurance,
[01:14:54.560 --> 01:15:02.000]  but by calling and well, I can, I can say this, I can save 100% on my car insurance
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:08.560]  by a zero minute call. Well, all right. So I got them beaten on that one. So I
[01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:14.800]  one-upped them on that call there. Hey, yeah, a couple of things I wanted to ask. Anyway,
[01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:18.320]  the update on things right now, personally, everything's going smooth. I'm not having any
[01:15:18.320 --> 01:15:24.160]  problems. It's been my four months now. I haven't even had any insurance or anything like that.
[01:15:24.160 --> 01:15:26.960]  It's been at least two months or so, two and a half months I haven't had
[01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:32.560]  that so-called driver's license. I got rid of that thing back in mid November.
[01:15:34.080 --> 01:15:37.920]  So everything's going on pretty good there personally in my life as far as my personal
[01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:45.920]  travel and my right of travel. Now, there's a couple of folks there that I hear on the radio
[01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:50.560]  and I guess they advertise a site called libertybeat.com. And I guess that's your
[01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:56.880]  top of the hour news break jingle where they do a little news report.
[01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:02.000]  I don't know if they're affiliated together or not. But yeah, Liberty Beat is one of the
[01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.640]  things that they do talk about on one of the top of the hour breaks.
[01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:13.680]  Right. Right. There's a couple of folks there. You know, John Bush and Katherine Bleich.
[01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:19.440]  Yes. Yeah. I wanted to know, do they have a radio show at all? I don't think.
[01:16:19.440 --> 01:16:27.040]  They were both on shows on this network. I don't know if they're on one anywhere else right now.
[01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:31.040]  I don't have any idea. I don't have a chance to talk to either of them that often.
[01:16:32.160 --> 01:16:36.960]  Okay. I wanted to find out. You know, I had something to ask them about. It's been nearly
[01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.680]  five years since a certain incident happened there in Austin.
[01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:42.880]  Okay. Well, hang on just a minute, Raider. We're going to go to break. We'll pick you up
[01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:45.040]  on the other side. Okay? You got it.
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[01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:46.800]  Hey Eddie, thanks again for taking my call. Hey, it's wonderful going down a new path and learning
[01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:52.400]  about freedoms that you didn't know that you had but now you're discovering. So it's a great
[01:19:52.400 --> 01:19:57.120]  adventure. Five years ago, I don't know if you want to really talk about this or not,
[01:19:57.120 --> 01:20:03.600]  just something that might be something that you would care enough to discuss now too much,
[01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:10.800]  but there was a gun rally there in Austin about five years ago at the Austin, in front of the
[01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:15.920]  Austin police headquarters or something, wherever that was. I'm not sure exactly where that was,
[01:20:17.120 --> 01:20:22.480]  but anyway, Catherine Blige, John Bush, and a few others, there's like a Liberty Restoration
[01:20:22.480 --> 01:20:27.840]  Project or something like that they were calling themselves. They wanted to find out or they were
[01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:36.080]  having some type of a rally to fight against official oppression against micro broadcasting
[01:20:36.080 --> 01:20:42.320]  and all kinds of stuff like that and then gun rights, et cetera. And one particular popular
[01:20:42.320 --> 01:20:47.520]  radio show host showed up at the event and kind of made an ass of himself.
[01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:52.880]  And I don't know, he was kind of a little bit rude to them or something after she had invited
[01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:58.960]  him there. And then it was reported on his show that there was COINTELPRO getting in his face
[01:21:00.160 --> 01:21:05.040]  and causing him harm and attacking him and trying to get him to leave, et cetera.
[01:21:05.040 --> 01:21:10.560]  Well, I remember I wasn't there for the event you're discussing. I know what event you're
[01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:16.960]  discussing. I don't have the details. I was not there. I was there for the event. I was
[01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:23.520]  there. And I'm not nosy enough to go asking questions that had the potential to start
[01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:31.040]  unnecessary fires because this community is divided enough as it is. So outside of name
[01:21:31.040 --> 01:21:35.600]  calling and things of that nature, I tend not to get in the middle of that kind of stuff
[01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:42.000]  because the last thing in the world I want to see is more division. Division is killing us
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:50.560]  every single day in one form or fashion. If we don't stop arguing over this kind of stuff,
[01:21:51.280 --> 01:21:55.520]  we are never going to be able to solve the problems we got with the people we've got.
[01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:03.360]  Absolutely. Well, it was video documented and it contradicted what he said. So I don't know.
[01:22:04.160 --> 01:22:05.600]  Eddie, can I say something here?
[01:22:06.320 --> 01:22:06.820]  Sure.
[01:22:06.820 --> 01:22:14.180]  Yeah. I would like to chime in on this. This is Deborah because I was involved in this
[01:22:14.180 --> 01:22:21.140]  situation pretty intimately. I wasn't at the event, but I was on the producing end of the events
[01:22:22.180 --> 01:22:27.940]  of some people that were there walking around with a microphone. So I can tell you this,
[01:22:27.940 --> 01:22:31.940]  that what is posted on the internet in those videos is really misleading.
[01:22:31.940 --> 01:22:38.020]  Okay. And some things that a lot of people don't know, and I'm going to try to keep this
[01:22:38.020 --> 01:22:45.460]  as short and simple as possible, is that this is not a rally. A rally and a protest are two
[01:22:46.180 --> 01:22:54.740]  radically different things. A rally is when there's a stage and there's a sound system
[01:22:54.740 --> 01:23:02.420]  and there's a posted schedule of speakers, invited guests, and the crowd is there
[01:23:03.060 --> 01:23:11.380]  to listen to the people that are speaking on the stage. Okay. This was not a rally.
[01:23:11.380 --> 01:23:17.780]  This was a protest. Okay. If you went to the website ahead of time, it said nothing about
[01:23:17.780 --> 01:23:21.940]  any speakers would be scheduled to speak. There was no sound system, nothing.
[01:23:21.940 --> 01:23:30.100]  Okay. People were invited to come and protest, and that means bring your bullhorn, bring your
[01:23:33.860 --> 01:23:39.780]  pitchforks and torches, metaphorically, so to speak, and get ready to chant down the man.
[01:23:39.780 --> 01:23:46.260]  All right. Let's take turns talking and congratulating ourselves and patting each
[01:23:46.260 --> 01:23:52.980]  other on the back. Okay. And so when this talk show host showed up, he did not make an
[01:23:52.980 --> 01:24:00.180]  ass of himself, as you say, truth raider. He showed up to do business, to protest.
[01:24:00.740 --> 01:24:06.420]  All right. Like many other people there were doing, and there was a small group of people
[01:24:06.420 --> 01:24:14.420]  there that decided to turn the protest into a quasi rally, and they had their own bullhorn,
[01:24:14.420 --> 01:24:22.900]  and they were using the steps of the police station as some sort of quasi stage and passing
[01:24:22.900 --> 01:24:27.620]  it around to talk to each other and pat each other on the back and congratulate each other,
[01:24:27.620 --> 01:24:34.180]  which is not what this event was billed as. Okay. If you want to hold a rally, get a sound system.
[01:24:34.180 --> 01:24:41.220]  All right. And then promote it as a rally. Don't tell everyone it's a protest. Okay.
[01:24:41.220 --> 01:24:47.940]  Because I have been to protests before where there will be at least 12 people on bullhorns
[01:24:47.940 --> 01:24:53.940]  chanting down the man, saying different things all at the same time and shouting at people on
[01:24:53.940 --> 01:24:59.620]  the sidewalk to try to get more people to come into the protest. Okay. Even when there's just
[01:24:59.620 --> 01:25:06.100]  like 100 people, there'll be eight to 10 people on really loud bullhorns walking around the crowd,
[01:25:06.100 --> 01:25:12.260]  chanting down the man and chanting at the police station or whatever. Okay. So that is what
[01:25:12.260 --> 01:25:17.460]  happened. It was a really big misunderstanding. And you know what? Everyone involved could have
[01:25:17.460 --> 01:25:22.980]  handled it a little better, I think. But there's a lot of misinformation and disinformation put out
[01:25:22.980 --> 01:25:28.980]  there that really demonized this most excellent talk show host. And I don't want to say any more
[01:25:28.980 --> 01:25:36.660]  about it, but since you're going to bring it up, I have to set the story straight. All right.
[01:25:36.660 --> 01:25:45.940]  Because these people that called the protest, excuse me, my mic's going out. The people that
[01:25:45.940 --> 01:25:52.100]  called the protest said it was a protest. That means you bring your bullhorn and you get ready
[01:25:52.100 --> 01:25:57.620]  to yell and chant down the man. You don't take turns talking to each other on it. It's not a
[01:25:57.620 --> 01:26:04.420]  protest. All right. And so people come, they get psyched, they're jazzing themselves up in the car,
[01:26:04.420 --> 01:26:07.940]  they're winding up in their energy, they're meditating. And when they get out of that car,
[01:26:07.940 --> 01:26:12.180]  man, they are ready to rock and roll. And they're chanting down and they're on the bullhorn.
[01:26:12.180 --> 01:26:15.380]  And then somebody comes up to you and says, excuse me, can you please stop?
[01:26:16.180 --> 01:26:20.660]  It's like, what are you talking about? This is a protest. What do you mean stop?
[01:26:20.660 --> 01:26:26.020]  What do you mean take turns? Okay. If there had been a stage and a sound system
[01:26:26.020 --> 01:26:31.380]  and a schedule of speakers, it's like, I don't think that this person would have been on the
[01:26:31.380 --> 01:26:35.220]  bullhorn yelling so loud, walking around the crowd. Okay. Because then that would have
[01:26:35.220 --> 01:26:39.380]  competed with the sound system. All right. There was no sound system. All right. So
[01:26:40.740 --> 01:26:46.900]  let's be clear about what's going on here. As far as inviting this talk show host to speak,
[01:26:46.900 --> 01:26:53.220]  look, everybody was invited to come down there and say their piece, to chant down the man,
[01:26:53.220 --> 01:26:57.140]  chant down Babylon, because it was a protest. That's what it was supposed to be. That's why
[01:26:57.140 --> 01:27:02.660]  it was billed as the gun show protest. Okay. Because the whole point of the whole thing,
[01:27:02.660 --> 01:27:07.780]  and in my opinion, they were protesting the wrong entity anyway, because what happened was
[01:27:09.140 --> 01:27:21.460]  the local gun show that was renting a venue from the HEB for the longest time, our chief of police
[01:27:21.460 --> 01:27:27.860]  decided to commandeer an effort to put pressure on the HEB to not rent the venue to the gun show
[01:27:27.860 --> 01:27:34.500]  anymore. Okay. And so these people that organized this wanted to protest the cops. They wanted to
[01:27:34.500 --> 01:27:39.780]  protest our Acevedo. And I told them from the beginning that was a bad idea, because the police
[01:27:39.780 --> 01:27:46.260]  chief is not accountable to us. He's not an elected official. All right. If he was the sheriff,
[01:27:46.260 --> 01:27:49.940]  and the sheriff pulled this, yeah, let's go chant down and protest the sheriff, because he's
[01:27:49.940 --> 01:27:55.780]  accountable. The police chief is not directly accountable to us, because he's appointed by city
[01:27:55.780 --> 01:28:00.500]  council. I told these people, and I told everyone, you guys want to do something about this? You want
[01:28:00.500 --> 01:28:06.660]  to hold a protest? You need to go protest down at city hall. You need to hold our city councils and
[01:28:06.660 --> 01:28:11.220]  our mayor's feet to the fire over this, because they are the ones that appointed this guy to be
[01:28:11.220 --> 01:28:14.900]  our chief of police. They're the ones that need to do something about it. We need to hold them
[01:28:14.900 --> 01:28:18.900]  accountable. No, they didn't want to do it. They wanted to protest the cops. Okay, fine. Let's go
[01:28:18.900 --> 01:28:24.260]  protest the cops. Let's everybody get our bull horn and go out there. And so when we get there,
[01:28:24.260 --> 01:28:29.700]  it was a completely different scene than what it had been advertised as. And a lot of people showed
[01:28:29.700 --> 01:28:36.900]  up ready to chant down Babylon. They didn't want to sit there and golf clap and watch other people
[01:28:37.700 --> 01:28:43.860]  congratulate each other on a bull horn up on the steps of the cop shop. I mean, come on.
[01:28:43.860 --> 01:28:49.620]  All right. So I'm sorry. I have never come public about this. This happened many years ago. I don't
[01:28:49.620 --> 01:28:54.900]  know why you're bringing it up, but I have to set the record straight because it affected this
[01:28:54.900 --> 01:29:01.860]  network a lot. Okay. And people were accusing me of firing some, some hosts over this. And I never
[01:29:01.860 --> 01:29:07.620]  did any such thing. They broke the contract. We had a contract that there was going to be no bashing
[01:29:07.620 --> 01:29:14.020]  of any talk show hosts on my network. And they would not agree to the terms of the contract. And
[01:29:14.020 --> 01:29:20.100]  I said, okay, well, then you guys are repudiating the contract then there's no more contract. Okay.
[01:29:20.100 --> 01:29:23.380]  Fine. You don't want to abide by the terms of the contract. Well, then we don't have a contract
[01:29:23.380 --> 01:29:27.700]  anymore. And then they go around and tell everybody that I fired him and I never did any such thing.
[01:29:27.700 --> 01:29:32.500]  Okay. So I have to set the record straight because it did involve me personally. All right, truth
[01:29:32.500 --> 01:29:37.780]  raider. So I hope you understand now and I hope everyone else understands and let's not talk about
[01:29:37.780 --> 01:29:42.980]  this anymore. We got a lot more things to talk about than things like this that happened seven
[01:29:42.980 --> 01:29:49.540]  years ago or however long it was. Give me a break. All right. Thanks Eddie. Yeah. All right. Now we
[01:29:49.540 --> 01:29:54.900]  all know why we do not stir a bed of coals with a stick of dynamite. Okay. Y'all hang on. We will be
[01:29:54.900 --> 01:30:06.900]  right back. Ohio Congressman Steve Chabot faced angry protesters at a town hall meeting in Avondale,
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[01:33:30.420 --> 01:33:53.940]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. Okay, Raider, you're getting me
[01:33:53.940 --> 01:33:58.100]  shot here, man. I'm going to have to leave you off air for the rest of the show here. So
[01:33:58.100 --> 01:34:03.700]  if you got any more you want to ask questions or comment on, you can do it by email, but please do
[01:34:03.700 --> 01:34:09.060]  me a favor and don't ever stir that bed of coals again. If you don't mind, my ears are bleeding.
[01:34:09.620 --> 01:34:14.500]  All right. That being said, let's go to Josh in Texas. Josh, what can we do for you?
[01:34:15.860 --> 01:34:22.820]  Hey, Eddie. Hey, I've got a motions hearing tomorrow, and I got a couple of questions.
[01:34:22.820 --> 01:34:30.580]  The first one is, the last time I was in court, the judge got up and told everybody how barbaric
[01:34:30.580 --> 01:34:35.540]  it was that they banned cell phones in the courthouse. And so we could be on our phones,
[01:34:35.540 --> 01:34:40.580]  but have it turned down, but no recording. If anybody's caught recording, they'll be in
[01:34:40.580 --> 01:34:47.140]  contempt of court. And I was thinking, if we have the right to record public officials and the right
[01:34:47.140 --> 01:34:55.220]  to a public trial, I mean, is that something actually that he can ban? He has no authority
[01:34:55.220 --> 01:35:00.980]  to ban you from doing that any more than the cop does, as long as you are not doing anything
[01:35:00.980 --> 01:35:06.420]  to interrupt the proceedings by doing it. Right. Okay. And that's what I thought. I just couldn't
[01:35:06.420 --> 01:35:12.420]  find any confirmation on that, you know? But the other questions I have is what exactly
[01:35:12.420 --> 01:35:20.020]  would I be expecting in a motions hearing setting? Is this a trick question?
[01:35:20.020 --> 01:35:23.380]  Obviously, we're going to be hearing the motions. I know they haven't read any of them.
[01:35:23.380 --> 01:35:28.340]  Well, what you can, well, that's just it. You're going to be expected to offer your
[01:35:28.340 --> 01:35:34.500]  summarization of what's in them. Do not fall for that trick. If they ask you to,
[01:35:34.500 --> 01:35:42.820]  what's in your motions, read them. Of course. Okay. Don't ever just try to argue them,
[01:35:42.820 --> 01:35:48.180]  except for unless you know them by heart. And unfortunately, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one
[01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:54.500]  that does. Yeah. But that's what it sounds like here when I'm listening to people calling.
[01:35:54.500 --> 01:35:58.660]  And I know that's the case for me. So, you know, I've been studying them, but I sure can't,
[01:35:58.660 --> 01:36:05.540]  you know, just rattle it off like you do. All right. So, one of these motions that I have in
[01:36:05.540 --> 01:36:12.180]  here is a motion to recuse the judge based on him issuing a warrant for my arrest
[01:36:13.380 --> 01:36:20.580]  on a false pretext. When they get to that, they are supposed to stop.
[01:36:20.580 --> 01:36:25.700]  No, no, no. There ain't no get to that. That is your first thing to demand to be heard.
[01:36:25.700 --> 01:36:33.860]  Okay. If you let them get into anything else without going into that recusal and disqualification,
[01:36:34.500 --> 01:36:39.780]  you're giving him grounds to reject it right there. You've let him proceed. Don't do that.
[01:36:40.900 --> 01:36:43.620]  Okay. So, that'll be the first thing I bring up then.
[01:36:45.060 --> 01:36:51.140]  Absolutely. If you want the judge out of there and you have a good sound basis for it, that is the
[01:36:51.140 --> 01:36:56.580]  first thing and only thing you do. Okay. Now, is this municipal or JP?
[01:36:57.700 --> 01:37:02.020]  It's municipal. Then they have no choice under Chapter 29.
[01:37:02.020 --> 01:37:07.700]  If it's a municipal court and you move to disqualify, they must stop.
[01:37:10.660 --> 01:37:12.820]  Gotcha. That's written right into the statute.
[01:37:14.580 --> 01:37:17.940]  Okay. And that's Chapter 29 of the... Government code.
[01:37:17.940 --> 01:37:23.700]  Government code. Okay. Well, it's 29-A, I think.
[01:37:26.100 --> 01:37:32.580]  So, I actually have never... I've only been in the courtroom once and only for about five minutes.
[01:37:32.580 --> 01:37:38.740]  I have never fled or anything like that. I did go in and look at the record today or look at the
[01:37:38.740 --> 01:37:47.220]  file and the judge had entered a plea for me. Of course, I've never been to any kind of hearing
[01:37:47.220 --> 01:37:52.660]  or anything like that. So, would it still stand that that's the first one motion that we hear,
[01:37:52.660 --> 01:37:56.580]  is the motion to recuse? Okay. Wait, wait. Now, I want to make sure
[01:37:56.580 --> 01:38:00.340]  for everybody's sake, including mine, that my hearing is not going out here.
[01:38:01.060 --> 01:38:05.220]  You never saw the judge and the judge has entered a plea for you.
[01:38:06.900 --> 01:38:13.940]  Yeah. The only time I ever saw the judge is when he made his preliminary statements to everybody
[01:38:13.940 --> 01:38:19.140]  about what I told you about the cell phone. The last hearing I had was December 4th.
[01:38:20.580 --> 01:38:28.900]  That was... They had issued the warrant. I filed a public information request to find out who
[01:38:28.900 --> 01:38:34.260]  actually requested and signed the warrant. When I did that, I got a letter from the city
[01:38:35.060 --> 01:38:41.540]  saying that the prosecutor had gotten my open records request and wanted a pretrial hearing.
[01:38:41.540 --> 01:38:46.180]  Well, I went to the pretrial hearing with my brother and the prosecutor tried to bring me
[01:38:46.180 --> 01:38:51.860]  into a back room and he said, who's this? And I said, well, this is an observer. And he said,
[01:38:51.860 --> 01:38:59.860]  okay, we're going to reset you for the 13th and gave me a notice to appear tomorrow.
[01:39:00.420 --> 01:39:05.220]  So, I've never actually talked with anybody up there.
[01:39:05.220 --> 01:39:09.300]  Okay. Then you need to make darn sure that's part of your motion to disqualify.
[01:39:09.300 --> 01:39:14.980]  You're entering pleas. You've never seen me once. You've never talked to me at all. You've never
[01:39:14.980 --> 01:39:20.740]  conducted a proceeding and you've already entered a plea on my behalf. I object. You have no
[01:39:20.740 --> 01:39:26.820]  jurisdiction to be entering a plea here. Gotcha. And could I do that on an addendum
[01:39:26.820 --> 01:39:32.980]  since this has already been... You can add that verbally. But if this is a municipal court of
[01:39:32.980 --> 01:39:36.740]  record, make darn sure that you move everything beyond the record before you start.
[01:39:36.740 --> 01:39:41.300]  Yeah, it is not a court of record though. Then you make it one, whether they want it to be
[01:39:41.300 --> 01:39:48.180]  or not, and don't tell them you're doing it. Yeah, I got you. Okay, one last thing.
[01:39:49.140 --> 01:39:52.900]  And I just thought I'd throw this out there so everybody could get a good laugh at it.
[01:39:53.620 --> 01:40:02.660]  They actually did write up some complaints. So, I guess the prosecutor, somebody's read my motion
[01:40:02.660 --> 01:40:12.180]  dismissed. So, I got these complaints here and they're all for no inspection, no license,
[01:40:12.180 --> 01:40:20.500]  failure to appear, all this stuff, no insurance or failure to give them the insurance. It's
[01:40:20.500 --> 01:40:26.740]  interesting though, because on the complaint for my failure to appear, it's notarized and it says,
[01:40:26.740 --> 01:40:36.420]  as the... I guess as the signee on that, it no longer works here.
[01:40:40.260 --> 01:40:43.300]  Well, somebody's going to have to testify to the complaint, aren't they?
[01:40:44.900 --> 01:40:52.260]  Yeah. Yeah, it has a spot, ST Mitchell, which is I guess the bailiff of the court.
[01:40:52.260 --> 01:40:56.900]  And he never signed this, but it is notarized. And wouldn't that...
[01:40:56.900 --> 01:41:03.220]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You have a document in your hand from the
[01:41:03.220 --> 01:41:10.820]  court that has a notary signature and stamp and no one else's? You got it.
[01:41:10.820 --> 01:41:14.340]  Tampering with a government document, falsifying a governmental record,
[01:41:15.060 --> 01:41:19.940]  two felonies in a row in one shot. Yeah.
[01:41:19.940 --> 01:41:24.900]  All right. Well, I just figured I'd throw that one out there for all the readers to hear. I'll post
[01:41:24.900 --> 01:41:28.260]  a picture of that up on your Facebook. How far are you from Austin, Josh?
[01:41:30.260 --> 01:41:34.260]  About an hour and a half. I'm out here just north of Houston.
[01:41:34.260 --> 01:41:38.660]  Well, you would be well-advised to bring your butt to class on Sunday so you can learn how
[01:41:38.660 --> 01:41:42.020]  to fight these directly if you're going to keep doing this.
[01:41:43.060 --> 01:41:47.700]  You know what? It's funny. I was actually going to go up there to a class,
[01:41:47.700 --> 01:41:53.300]  and a buddy of mine over here had invited me, and we were going to go. And I'm glad we ended up
[01:41:53.300 --> 01:41:57.540]  not going because it was that time that you were out of town dealing with the water issue.
[01:41:58.740 --> 01:42:08.180]  Yeah. Well, generally, I'm there unless something goes seriously wrong or the store is closed. But
[01:42:08.180 --> 01:42:13.540]  for the most part, yeah, you can always email me and ask me if we're having class, but there's
[01:42:13.540 --> 01:42:19.060]  several people that come up from Houston and occasionally from Dallas as well that come up
[01:42:19.060 --> 01:42:23.700]  here. But if you're going to go fight these specific charges, there are things you need to know.
[01:42:26.660 --> 01:42:34.500]  Gotcha. All right. And one last thing. I do have some criminal complaints here that I am going to
[01:42:34.500 --> 01:42:40.020]  file. Should I try to file those with Tomball City Police who I'm fighting now, or should I just go
[01:42:40.020 --> 01:42:43.860]  Tomball City Police who I'm fighting now, or should I just go straight to the sheriff?
[01:42:44.900 --> 01:42:49.300]  I would pull a double whammy on the judge and serve him on the judge in court.
[01:42:50.660 --> 01:42:53.220]  Oh, okay. Yeah. So tomorrow at the motions hearing, sir.
[01:42:53.220 --> 01:42:57.300]  That's correct. Judge, first order of business here is I have some criminal complaints that I
[01:42:57.300 --> 01:43:02.580]  would like to provide to you by evoking your duties as a magistrate under Texas Code of Criminal
[01:43:02.580 --> 01:43:09.540]  Procedure. And when he refuses to do that, you turn to the DA and say, did you just see a Texas
[01:43:09.540 --> 01:43:21.460]  magistrate refuse to take a criminal complaint? And when they say, so as someone that's liable
[01:43:21.460 --> 01:43:26.420]  to the general public for making sure that the law is upheld, are you going to do anything about
[01:43:26.420 --> 01:43:31.700]  this guy not taking the criminal complaint, or are you going to cover it up as the district attorney?
[01:43:34.580 --> 01:43:36.660]  You can have a lot of fun with this if you know how.
[01:43:36.660 --> 01:43:42.020]  You don't happen to have a statute number on the magistrate accepting those, do you?
[01:43:42.020 --> 01:43:47.300]  A what? A statute number? If you'll hang on, I'll give it to you on the other side of the break,
[01:43:47.300 --> 01:43:49.540]  okay? Fantastic.
[01:43:49.540 --> 01:43:53.620]  All right. I'll talk to you in a minute. All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
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[01:46:25.860 --> 01:46:46.660]  All right, folks, we are back. This is rule of law radio. All right, now back to the question
[01:46:46.660 --> 01:46:52.260]  we had here from Josh. All right, Josh, the statutes that they have to take is the prosecuting
[01:46:52.260 --> 01:46:58.660]  attorney has a duty under 2.03 code of criminal procedure that anytime they become aware of a
[01:46:58.660 --> 01:47:06.580]  crime, especially one committed by a public servant, 2.03 commands them to do specific
[01:47:06.580 --> 01:47:14.020]  things. There is also the statute in, I forget which one it is, that requires any magistrate
[01:47:14.020 --> 01:47:20.260]  of the state to take a complaint presented to them as can any county or district attorney
[01:47:20.260 --> 01:47:27.780]  or police agency. Now, on top of that, when they don't do those things, they are violating
[01:47:27.780 --> 01:47:35.780]  your rights to report the crime and have something done about it under 39.02 and 39.03 penal code,
[01:47:35.780 --> 01:47:39.940]  abuse of official capacity, and official oppression. Okay?
[01:47:41.940 --> 01:47:46.260]  All right, Eddie. Well, listen, I appreciate your help. And I know you only got one segment left,
[01:47:46.260 --> 01:47:49.460]  so I'll let you get to the next caller. All right, appreciate it. Thanks for calling in.
[01:47:49.460 --> 01:47:50.980]  Uh-huh. Bye-bye.
[01:47:50.980 --> 01:47:56.900]  Bye-bye. All right. Now we're going to go to Mike in Texas. Mike, what can we do for you?
[01:47:58.500 --> 01:48:05.700]  Hey, Eddie. I know how much you do not like the theory that the capitalizing of your
[01:48:05.700 --> 01:48:09.380]  name means that you're a corporation and stuff. Correct?
[01:48:11.060 --> 01:48:15.460]  It's not so much that I don't like it as I have yet to see anyone prove it.
[01:48:15.460 --> 01:48:22.580]  Okay. Well, the question that I have is why on all these legal documents do they actually
[01:48:22.580 --> 01:48:28.580]  capitalize your name like that? Okay. Well, there could be any number of
[01:48:28.580 --> 01:48:32.980]  reasons why that's done. For instance, when I first started programming, computer software
[01:48:32.980 --> 01:48:38.980]  was programmed to capitalize everything that was put in through data entry. It was stored
[01:48:38.980 --> 01:48:43.620]  that way permanently the moment it was entered into the computer. They did that in order to
[01:48:43.620 --> 01:48:46.980]  save space. Okay.
[01:48:46.980 --> 01:48:51.620]  They did it for readability reasons. There's any number of possibilities.
[01:48:52.740 --> 01:48:57.540]  Okay. So then you don't think it's... But if I spelled your name Gertrude,
[01:48:57.540 --> 01:49:00.980]  would that make you a woman? No.
[01:49:00.980 --> 01:49:09.860]  Okay. A corporation requires specific legal paperwork to be filed to make it a corporation,
[01:49:09.860 --> 01:49:14.980]  doesn't it? Well, that's true.
[01:49:14.980 --> 01:49:21.780]  So how does simply printing your name in one capitalization form or another change that fact?
[01:49:21.780 --> 01:49:29.140]  It doesn't. Now, what it may do is represent what I've come to term a legal capacity in
[01:49:29.140 --> 01:49:35.860]  which they're trying to place you, meaning that we're referencing you in a legal capacity here,
[01:49:35.860 --> 01:49:42.820]  not your private one. That's feasible because everything in the complaint alleges that you
[01:49:42.820 --> 01:49:49.380]  are acting in a legal capacity over which they have control. You're a person, you're an actor,
[01:49:49.380 --> 01:49:55.700]  you're a defendant. None of those terms exist except in statute, the way they define them when
[01:49:55.700 --> 01:49:58.740]  they use them in these codes and in these complaints, right?
[01:50:00.020 --> 01:50:04.180]  Right. So the capitalization doesn't necessarily
[01:50:04.180 --> 01:50:13.540]  mean you're being made into a corporation, but you may be being addressed in a legal capacity.
[01:50:14.260 --> 01:50:17.940]  But I've also watched people go to court, complain about it, and judge go,
[01:50:17.940 --> 01:50:24.820]  okay, no problem, and have the complaint changed to proper case and move forward. Nothing changed.
[01:50:24.820 --> 01:50:35.220]  Nothing changed. So I'm back to square one, prove this is what is happening
[01:50:36.260 --> 01:50:44.660]  because I can't find any proof of conversion. I can find proof of insinuating legal capacity.
[01:50:48.180 --> 01:50:51.460]  All right. Well, that was my only question. Okay. Thanks for calling in.
[01:50:51.460 --> 01:50:57.460]  Thank you. You're welcome. All right. Now we're going to go to Otto in Louisiana.
[01:50:58.420 --> 01:51:03.460]  Is that Otto or is that Toto? Otto. Good evening.
[01:51:03.460 --> 01:51:08.820]  Evening. What do you got, Otto? Well, I'm a newbie. So I hope this,
[01:51:08.820 --> 01:51:13.140]  I'd like, if you don't mind, to go over a few fundamentals, if you don't mind.
[01:51:13.140 --> 01:51:20.580]  I'm confused somewhat. You speak of the divisions of the courts and so, and a traffic violation.
[01:51:20.580 --> 01:51:26.260]  Wait, wait, wait. What are you talking about when you say I speak of the division of the courts?
[01:51:27.300 --> 01:51:33.300]  Well, over the times listening to you, how I've heard you talk about that there's different
[01:51:33.300 --> 01:51:39.140]  courts you appear in, even under traffic violations. I think you've used terms.
[01:51:39.140 --> 01:51:44.180]  Well, no, you always, in Texas at least, you appear under one of two courts. You're either
[01:51:44.180 --> 01:51:48.980]  a municipal court or your NAJP court. They're the original courts of jurisdiction.
[01:51:48.980 --> 01:51:53.780]  Where you go from there depends entirely on whether or not you appeal what happens in that court.
[01:51:54.900 --> 01:52:00.500]  Municipal or J.C. That's what I'm looking to find out. Okay. So I'm a newbie. Municipal or
[01:52:01.140 --> 01:52:03.380]  JP court. Yeah, justice of the peace.
[01:52:04.740 --> 01:52:10.500]  So you get a traffic violation and they alleged to summon you before them. It's going to be
[01:52:10.500 --> 01:52:15.380]  municipal or court or JP court. Depending upon who issues the ticket, yes.
[01:52:15.380 --> 01:52:20.660]  Yeah, the local sheriff. If the sheriff does it, most likely, or anyone in the sheriff's department
[01:52:20.660 --> 01:52:26.820]  or a constable or a state trooper, you will likely be sent to a JP. If a municipal cop issues it,
[01:52:26.820 --> 01:52:32.100]  they're going to always send you to the municipal, even though Texas law requires them to send you to
[01:52:32.100 --> 01:52:38.020]  the nearest magistrate having jurisdiction, regardless of who it is. They don't do it that
[01:52:38.020 --> 01:52:41.620]  way. They divide the money up by sending you to who they work for.
[01:52:41.620 --> 01:52:48.820]  So those courts, I assume, are important that you're aware of? Are there different procedures
[01:52:48.820 --> 01:52:55.140]  that you have to know about or? The procedures for either court are codified to be the same,
[01:52:55.140 --> 01:52:58.660]  though each court may also have additional local rules.
[01:53:01.300 --> 01:53:07.140]  Both justice and municipal courts are controlled by Chapter 45 of the Code of Criminal Procedure
[01:53:07.140 --> 01:53:14.500]  in Texas. Anything not addressed by Chapter 45 is taken care of by any other provision of the Code
[01:53:14.500 --> 01:53:20.500]  of Criminal Procedure. All right. You're referring to the Texas, and I'm over here in Louisiana.
[01:53:20.500 --> 01:53:28.100]  Right. I guess maybe I'm asking the wrong questions. So let me see what else that I have for you.
[01:53:28.100 --> 01:53:38.260]  So is there a difference between the law and the statute?
[01:53:38.260 --> 01:53:46.020]  Absolutely. The law is the law. The statute is simply alleged evidence that an alleged law
[01:53:46.020 --> 01:53:55.060]  allegedly exists. And so the procedure you want to do is you want to go to you and read the statute
[01:53:55.060 --> 01:54:00.660]  you're charged with and then go to the law to see if it doesn't apply to you. Is that correct?
[01:54:02.020 --> 01:54:06.180]  Well, it depends on what you're going to argue. If you're going to argue merits,
[01:54:06.180 --> 01:54:10.820]  then you need to read the statute so you can determine whether or not the statute complies
[01:54:10.820 --> 01:54:16.500]  with the underlying law. And if it doesn't, then you have an argument that the statute
[01:54:17.140 --> 01:54:23.060]  is invalid. If it does, then you have an argument of why that law or statute may
[01:54:23.060 --> 01:54:27.380]  or may not apply to you or how you couldn't have violated it under the conditions they're asserting.
[01:54:29.140 --> 01:54:35.540]  Okay. So when you say, I said the law versus the statute. Okay. I know I can go to my local
[01:54:35.540 --> 01:54:40.340]  library and look up the statutes around the computer, but what am I looking for the law?
[01:54:40.340 --> 01:54:42.740]  Is it the- You're looking for the actual original
[01:54:42.740 --> 01:54:46.820]  bill enacted and passed and signed by the legislature and the state governor.
[01:54:46.820 --> 01:54:53.380]  Okay. And under the state, you wouldn't look under the statutes.
[01:54:53.380 --> 01:54:56.580]  No, you would look in the legislative register.
[01:54:57.940 --> 01:54:58.900]  Okay.
[01:54:58.900 --> 01:55:03.220]  And you will generally find that in a law library, not at your regular library,
[01:55:03.220 --> 01:55:05.540]  though it could have it if it's a book repository.
[01:55:06.580 --> 01:55:11.140]  Yeah. Legislature. All right. So you need to get familiar with that stuff.
[01:55:11.140 --> 01:55:15.460]  Yeah. You look at the register and you look at the journal, the legislative journals and
[01:55:15.460 --> 01:55:19.780]  the legislative register. That's where the actual enrolled bills go.
[01:55:21.780 --> 01:55:25.060]  And then you compare that to the statute you're being charged with.
[01:55:25.620 --> 01:55:26.120]  Correct.
[01:55:27.620 --> 01:55:34.020]  And look for a discrepancy that you can hand your case on and that would be by the merits.
[01:55:34.020 --> 01:55:34.980]  Is that correct?
[01:55:34.980 --> 01:55:35.480]  Correct.
[01:55:36.660 --> 01:55:42.900]  Okay. Now, when you say if you're doing it on the merits, then by application mean that there's
[01:55:42.900 --> 01:55:48.020]  another way to challenge it. Would that be? Yeah. The other challenge is that the statute
[01:55:48.020 --> 01:55:52.660]  and the underlying law do not apply to you because you're not engaged in the activity
[01:55:52.660 --> 01:55:53.460]  that they address.
[01:55:54.820 --> 01:55:59.620]  Of the commercial use of the roads. Now, would that be you challenging the jurisdiction?
[01:56:00.580 --> 01:56:06.900]  Well, if you can't violate a statute, a court can't have jurisdiction to prosecute you, right?
[01:56:08.180 --> 01:56:09.940]  I agree with your logic.
[01:56:09.940 --> 01:56:19.300]  Well, I mean, let's take an example. Norway has laws on fishing, right?
[01:56:20.500 --> 01:56:21.000]  Gotcha.
[01:56:21.540 --> 01:56:24.100]  But they have no force in effect in America, right?
[01:56:25.380 --> 01:56:25.940]  Agreed.
[01:56:25.940 --> 01:56:32.740]  So if I do something in America that violates a Norwegian fishing law or Norwegian court,
[01:56:32.740 --> 01:56:34.260]  can't prosecute me, can they?
[01:56:35.540 --> 01:56:36.820]  Logically, no.
[01:56:37.460 --> 01:56:37.960]  Okay.
[01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:43.000]  Logically, they couldn't successfully do it.
[01:56:44.440 --> 01:56:47.480]  Well, they would never have jurisdiction to begin to do it.
[01:56:49.320 --> 01:56:53.720]  Even if they tried, you know, they still wouldn't have it.
[01:56:53.720 --> 01:56:57.800]  The difference there is whether or not they're acting under law or they're acting under force.
[01:56:57.800 --> 01:56:59.720]  We're talking two different things there.
[01:57:00.840 --> 01:57:03.720]  Acting under force, they can do anything they want.
[01:57:03.720 --> 01:57:05.960]  Anyone can. Acting under force.
[01:57:05.960 --> 01:57:07.480]  I see.
[01:57:08.680 --> 01:57:13.640]  How do you persuade them that they don't have, that you aren't in their jurisdiction?
[01:57:14.760 --> 01:57:17.400]  Then you ask them where the alleged event occurred.
[01:57:17.400 --> 01:57:18.920]  Well, it occurred in Utah.
[01:57:18.920 --> 01:57:21.240]  What jurisdiction do you have over Utah?
[01:57:21.240 --> 01:57:21.740]  None.
[01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:24.440]  Then how do you have a case?
[01:57:24.440 --> 01:57:25.240]  Oh, we don't.
[01:57:26.760 --> 01:57:31.240]  Okay. And then therein comes your scripts, the cross-examination script.
[01:57:31.240 --> 01:57:35.800]  No. At that point, if you challenge jurisdiction, there is no cross-examination script.
[01:57:35.800 --> 01:57:41.320]  If you look at that script, that script is all about denying, having anything to do with the
[01:57:41.320 --> 01:57:44.280]  regulatory activity in a place that does have jurisdiction.
[01:57:46.280 --> 01:57:49.880]  Here, we're talking about challenging jurisdiction from the get-go.
[01:57:53.480 --> 01:57:55.480]  I'd like to hear more if it's okay.
[01:57:55.480 --> 01:58:00.760]  Well, you'll have to wait until the next show because this one's over.
[01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:03.000]  Okay. Thank you very much.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:04.520]  All right, Otto. Thanks for calling in.
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