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[01:01.760 --> 01:06.000]  In the news, an investigation continues into an attempted bombing that took place outside
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[04:12.240 --> 04:42.000]  Howdy, howdy, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday.
[04:42.000 --> 04:53.280]  January the 8th, 2015 and we have for the first of the year our fundraiser and we hope
[04:53.280 --> 04:56.320]  everybody's got deep pockets.
[04:56.320 --> 05:00.840]  Deborah, do you want to come on and kind of explain what we got going?
[05:00.840 --> 05:05.560]  Sure, just briefly and then we'll get back to the show because I know you want to talk
[05:05.560 --> 05:09.840]  about grand juries tonight and I think that's just great.
[05:09.840 --> 05:14.640]  I may have some input on that as well but yes folks, we're having our annual fundraiser
[05:14.640 --> 05:19.880]  for Logos Radio Network to keep Rule of Law Radio on the air and all the other great shows
[05:19.880 --> 05:26.640]  that are on the network and again we're, we try to set an annual goal of about $7,000.
[05:26.640 --> 05:33.400]  That's about, that's just barely bare bones minimum of what it costs and we do have some
[05:33.400 --> 05:38.840]  sponsors but the sponsors, we don't have enough sponsors to really keep things going.
[05:38.840 --> 05:44.880]  We need listener support and so we, you know, we try to get the equipment upgraded and maintained
[05:44.880 --> 05:50.080]  every year and, you know, we need to put some aside for operating expenses and this sort
[05:50.080 --> 05:54.920]  of thing so in case we run into some dry spells during the year we'll have something set aside
[05:54.920 --> 05:59.240]  so we can continue to pay the electric bill and the internet bill and all that good stuff
[05:59.240 --> 06:09.800]  and so this year we have another drawing for a firearm, a Glock 42 to 380 caliber pistol.
[06:09.800 --> 06:16.560]  It's the new model and that is being given away by Central Texas Gunworks.
[06:16.560 --> 06:21.920]  Michael Cargill over there, I want to thank him very much for sponsoring this year's fundraiser
[06:21.920 --> 06:30.600]  and the second place prize is two CHL classes so of course to be, to win the second place
[06:30.600 --> 06:37.720]  prize to be eligible for that then you really need to be in Texas because it is a CHL class
[06:37.720 --> 06:45.160]  for Texas and you need to be able to be available to go to the class here in Austin so if you're
[06:45.160 --> 06:49.720]  somewhere else in Texas you could still win the prize but you have to travel to Austin
[06:49.720 --> 06:58.800]  to take the class and of course with the Glock that's open game for anybody around the nation
[06:58.800 --> 07:04.520]  as long as you are eligible to possess that particular firearm in your state and in addition
[07:04.520 --> 07:14.280]  to that the first 50 people who donate at least $25 or more will receive a free jar
[07:14.280 --> 07:23.120]  of My Magic Mud tooth whitener, tooth detoxifying cleanser and I can testify to that it is very
[07:23.120 --> 07:29.800]  good product, it really does do a lot to whiten your teeth and to just pull all the toxins
[07:29.800 --> 07:31.400]  out of your mouth.
[07:31.400 --> 07:36.520]  I've done the oil pulling which a lot of people are familiar with where you hold a tablespoon
[07:36.520 --> 07:42.240]  of coconut oil in your mouth for 10 to 20 minutes at a time and that does work, it doesn't
[07:42.240 --> 07:49.320]  do a lot to whiten your teeth, it does do a fairly good job at detoxifying but it is,
[07:49.320 --> 07:54.400]  I can't do it, it's just too difficult to hold this coconut oil in my mouth that long
[07:54.400 --> 07:59.280]  even the bare minimum of 10 minutes it's just too much but I really, really like the Magic
[07:59.280 --> 08:03.640]  Mud because you just brush your teeth with it and it just takes a few minutes and it
[08:03.640 --> 08:09.240]  basically does the same thing and more because you get the, it loosens up the plaque on your
[08:09.240 --> 08:13.560]  gums and on your teeth and it whitens your teeth, it removes all the stains.
[08:13.560 --> 08:21.360]  It's made from, it's made from bentonite clay, very finely ground bentonite clay and coconut
[08:21.360 --> 08:28.640]  shell charcoal so it is a very fine powder and it's black and so there is a technique
[08:28.640 --> 08:35.320]  to it because if you don't do it right you'll end up with black all over the sink you know
[08:35.320 --> 08:40.200]  but there's some videos on how, on the proper techniques you can use it without making a
[08:40.200 --> 08:46.320]  magic mess as it were but I highly recommend the product that is being sponsored by of
[08:46.320 --> 08:55.560]  course Justin and Jessica Armand and they do, they are two of the writers and broadcasters
[08:55.560 --> 09:01.960]  of the Liberty Beat radio show, I'm sorry a news show, you'll hear at the top of the
[09:01.960 --> 09:06.280]  hour the Liberty Beat, sometimes you'll hear Justin and Jessica so they are the producers
[09:06.280 --> 09:11.320]  of My Magic Mud, we really appreciate them sponsoring the fundraiser this year so yes
[09:11.320 --> 09:18.920]  for a, and for the giveaway for the CHL classes and the firearm, every $25 will get your name
[09:18.920 --> 09:26.200]  in the drawing so if you donate $100 that will get your name in the drawing four times
[09:26.200 --> 09:31.160]  so every $25 get your name in the drawing so you can increase your chances to win by
[09:31.160 --> 09:36.600]  increasing your donation, with the Magic Mud though it's just one per customer, I mean
[09:36.600 --> 09:41.960]  one per donor so no matter how much you know you only get one per donor because they want
[09:41.960 --> 09:47.120]  to get as many, get this stuff into as many people's hands as possible and so we really
[09:47.120 --> 09:54.200]  appreciate them and also the other perk is Eddie Craig's Traffic Seminar and that is
[09:54.200 --> 10:02.640]  $250 and for if we are including the people who purchase Eddie Craig's Traffic Seminar
[10:02.640 --> 10:13.880]  into the fundraising giveaway, the giveaway for the firearm and the CHL classes so for
[10:13.880 --> 10:18.600]  everyone who purchases the Traffic Seminar through the month of January you will get
[10:18.600 --> 10:25.560]  10 entries into the drawing and of course we interviewed the winners a couple months
[10:25.560 --> 10:35.000]  ago and the second place winner was one of the Traffic Seminar purchasers so it does
[10:35.000 --> 10:40.840]  definitely increase your chances to win and so proof is in the pudding so we really would
[10:40.840 --> 10:46.520]  appreciate your support, we try not to ask for money very often because I know people
[10:46.520 --> 10:51.400]  get really tired of getting hit up with all these fundraisers and so we just try to make
[10:51.400 --> 10:57.840]  it a once a year deal and we surely would appreciate your support, we just started this
[10:57.840 --> 11:03.400]  past weekend so it's been going on almost a week, the end of the fundraiser is January
[11:03.400 --> 11:09.200]  31st, you have until January 31st to get your donation in and we also accept Bitcoin, we
[11:09.200 --> 11:17.680]  accept metals, if you want to donate with a check you can go to the website and get
[11:17.680 --> 11:22.160]  the information there on how to donate with a check and the mailing address and all that
[11:22.160 --> 11:28.320]  and you could also drop off donations at Brave New Books so those are different ways to donate
[11:28.320 --> 11:35.240]  so please consider supporting us if you value this programming because we are not supported
[11:35.240 --> 11:42.640]  by these, you know, nefarious organizations like the Ford Foundation, etc.
[11:42.640 --> 11:50.800]  And just make your donations to Randy's Beer Fund, I knew you were going to say that, yes
[11:50.800 --> 11:54.640]  Randy's Beer Fund, you could also put that, what was the gun again?
[11:54.640 --> 12:02.360]  It is a Glock 42, it's a 380 caliber pistol and so you can get more information about
[12:02.360 --> 12:08.320]  that on the website and of course we want to thank Michael Cargill, owner of Central
[12:08.320 --> 12:13.680]  Texas Gunworks, he is the primary sponsor of this year's fundraiser and also of course
[12:13.680 --> 12:16.760]  Justin and Jessica Arman, we couldn't do it without them.
[12:16.760 --> 12:23.480]  So folks please help us out here so that we can continue to help you and just think about
[12:23.480 --> 12:30.040]  how much you'd have to spend on a lawyer if you didn't have Randy and Eddie and Steve
[12:30.040 --> 12:34.640]  and myself to help you guys out so please consider helping us, we really appreciate
[12:34.640 --> 12:36.600]  it.
[12:36.600 --> 12:48.320]  Okay, I was going to start talking about grand juries and primarily how to, how in Texas
[12:48.320 --> 12:54.520]  a grand jury is impaneled but we started out early with a couple of callers, I'll take
[12:54.520 --> 13:01.080]  the callers first and then if I run out of callers then I'm going to go back to how grand
[13:01.080 --> 13:08.200]  juries are impaneled and some legislation that I want to propose because we have a legislative
[13:08.200 --> 13:10.260]  session coming up.
[13:10.260 --> 13:20.920]  We have a lot of national focus on grand juries right now and it's a very good time politically
[13:20.920 --> 13:30.960]  to offer up something that our legislators can use that gives them the appearance of
[13:30.960 --> 13:40.040]  being sensitive to the public and their concerns while being a piece of legislation that doesn't
[13:40.040 --> 13:45.720]  appear very obnoxious, doesn't cost anything, doesn't interfere with anybody's, any other
[13:45.720 --> 13:48.120]  laws or anybody's jurisdiction.
[13:48.120 --> 13:51.120]  If we can get this thing snuck in there we can change everything.
[13:51.120 --> 13:56.120]  I'll get to that after we talk to our callers, we've got two callers, the first one we're
[13:56.120 --> 13:58.960]  going to go to is Jeff in Mississippi.
[13:58.960 --> 14:04.160]  Jeff, what do you have for us today, has anything interesting happened?
[14:04.160 --> 14:09.840]  Yes, it sure has and number one thank you for having me on the show.
[14:09.840 --> 14:16.600]  I'm about to go to Mississippi on Saturday, I've got a first hearing on Monday so if you
[14:16.600 --> 14:20.920]  remember last time when I walked into the courthouse I just got arrested immediately
[14:20.920 --> 14:27.520]  without a warrant and then my hearing was postponed and my trial was postponed so we're
[14:27.520 --> 14:30.280]  going to go back and see what happens now.
[14:30.280 --> 14:37.000]  I have filed a judicial complaint with the Judicial Review Board or the Commission of
[14:37.000 --> 14:45.000]  Judicial Conduct, I've also filed two bar complaints against my public defender and
[14:45.000 --> 14:52.000]  then I got with Eddie, Eddie sent me a letter that was a notice to the court that basically
[14:52.000 --> 14:58.480]  says that I see that the court is committing a crime and I'm reporting it, it's my duty
[14:58.480 --> 15:05.280]  to report it so I reported them for continuing my case and for having me arrested without
[15:05.280 --> 15:06.280]  a warrant.
[15:06.280 --> 15:13.480]  So those are the three things that I've done and I also carbon copied that letter that
[15:13.480 --> 15:18.560]  I sent to the court, I carbon copied that to the Chief Justice of the Mississippi Supreme
[15:18.560 --> 15:21.960]  Court so I sent him a copy.
[15:21.960 --> 15:28.480]  Oh interesting, the local judge is not going to be happy with that.
[15:28.480 --> 15:29.480]  Okay.
[15:29.480 --> 15:36.200]  Because that's going to give him a professional black eye, this is exactly what he needs.
[15:36.200 --> 15:37.200]  Okay good.
[15:37.200 --> 15:42.040]  He needs to find out that you can sting him good.
[15:42.040 --> 15:44.880]  All right.
[15:44.880 --> 15:51.960]  So are you scheduled for a hearing, for a trial at this next hearing date?
[15:51.960 --> 15:58.280]  Yes, they're doing the same thing that they did last time for the viewers that, or for
[15:58.280 --> 16:00.560]  the listeners that don't remember.
[16:00.560 --> 16:06.800]  They're spacing my hearing apart from the trial so it forces me to have to stay there
[16:06.800 --> 16:09.840]  for about three weeks this time.
[16:09.840 --> 16:15.560]  So I'll have the hearing on Monday and then the actual trial is until January the 27th
[16:15.560 --> 16:20.280]  and that way it forces me to, well they actually forced me to come into the courthouse every
[16:20.280 --> 16:23.640]  day and sign in and sit there.
[16:23.640 --> 16:26.360]  So it's almost like being in detention hall.
[16:26.360 --> 16:31.400]  So you should bill them, did you bill them for the last time you were there?
[16:31.400 --> 16:36.800]  I sent in a bill right when I first got here.
[16:36.800 --> 16:39.320]  Okay wait, hang on we're about to go to break.
[16:39.320 --> 16:42.560]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Root of Our Radio.
[16:42.560 --> 16:49.360]  Our call in number 512-646-1984, give us a call, we'll be taking calls all night.
[16:49.360 --> 17:02.680]  We'll be right back.
[17:02.680 --> 17:07.520]  January is the time for new beginnings, a chance to sharpen our focus on what's important
[17:07.520 --> 17:10.120]  and recommit to ourselves and loved ones.
[17:10.120 --> 17:15.560]  Logos Radio Network is holding their third gun giveaway as a part of their annual fundraiser.
[17:15.560 --> 17:20.640]  Donate $25 today and be entered into a drawing for a Glock 42 pistol.
[17:20.640 --> 17:25.480]  Second place gets two CHL clappers, both sponsored by Central Texas Gunworks.
[17:25.480 --> 17:32.240]  The first 50 people who donate $25 will receive a free jar of My Magic Mud detoxifying tooth
[17:32.240 --> 17:33.240]  powder.
[17:33.240 --> 17:36.320]  Please visit logosradionetwork.com for more details.
[17:36.320 --> 17:42.040]  If you appreciate truth in media and have enjoyed Logos Radio Network programming, contribute
[17:42.040 --> 17:47.280]  to this very important fundraiser sponsored by Central Texas Gunworks and My Magic Mud.
[17:47.280 --> 17:53.000]  Secure your chance to win a Glock 42 and get your free jar of My Magic Mud now.
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[19:51.600 --> 19:52.600]  We are back.
[19:52.600 --> 19:58.720]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio on this January the 8th.
[19:58.720 --> 20:01.040]  And we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi.
[20:01.040 --> 20:08.320]  Okay, Jeff, since they had you come there and spend all this time there, and then they
[20:08.320 --> 20:14.120]  didn't have the case, they didn't have the trial, you need to bill them.
[20:14.120 --> 20:15.120]  Okay.
[20:15.120 --> 20:22.160]  And then if they don't want to pay it, you sue the state for it.
[20:22.160 --> 20:29.720]  And this may be the perfect way in to get this practice eliminated because this is absolutely
[20:29.720 --> 20:32.320]  an outrageous practice.
[20:32.320 --> 20:34.320]  Yeah.
[20:34.320 --> 20:36.320]  Okay.
[20:36.320 --> 20:42.600]  Okay, so you're going to trial when?
[20:42.600 --> 20:47.480]  The actual trial is the 27th, but I have to go up there on the 11th because they're going
[20:47.480 --> 20:50.680]  to hold me for three weeks down the courthouse.
[20:50.680 --> 20:55.320]  I have to sign in and basically sit around and fiddle my thumb, so I won't be doing anything
[20:55.320 --> 20:58.880]  but just spending time there.
[20:58.880 --> 21:02.840]  You have to sign in and then stay in the courthouse?
[21:02.840 --> 21:06.640]  You know, a lot of times I'll sign in and then I kind of sneak out towards lunch because
[21:06.640 --> 21:07.640]  I think-
[21:07.640 --> 21:08.640]  No, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[21:08.640 --> 21:11.760]  Are they telling you, you have to stay in the courthouse?
[21:11.760 --> 21:12.760]  Yes.
[21:12.760 --> 21:16.760]  For what reason?
[21:16.760 --> 21:22.200]  Their reason is because you're on bond, so you have to sign in every day at nine o'clock
[21:22.200 --> 21:28.320]  a.m. every day for the complete term.
[21:28.320 --> 21:29.320]  So what?
[21:29.320 --> 21:36.400]  You sign in, you go back to the motel around, why do you have to stay in the courthouse?
[21:36.400 --> 21:40.480]  Well, if I think that they're going to call me, I'll sit in the courthouse for an hour
[21:40.480 --> 21:43.720]  or two and then I'll just go back to the motel.
[21:43.720 --> 21:46.960]  Do they have a cell phone number for you?
[21:46.960 --> 21:47.960]  Yes.
[21:47.960 --> 21:54.160]  Okay, then I would definitely bill them for the time.
[21:54.160 --> 21:58.160]  You're doing that for their convenience.
[21:58.160 --> 22:02.960]  Have you read the code that authorizes them to do that?
[22:02.960 --> 22:12.560]  Well, the rules of the court when you're placed on bond, bond and a public defender, I'm sorry,
[22:12.560 --> 22:18.000]  it does say that you're required to go down to the courthouse and sign in day after day
[22:18.000 --> 22:24.040]  for the completion of the term and that is part of the rules of the court.
[22:24.040 --> 22:31.960]  Oh, but you're not required to stay in the court all day?
[22:31.960 --> 22:37.440]  No, it does not say that, but a lot of times when I leave, then they'll call me and say
[22:37.440 --> 22:39.600]  that the police are looking for me.
[22:39.600 --> 22:42.800]  So they do that tough guy thing.
[22:42.800 --> 22:47.320]  So it's almost better if I just sit there because I know I'm going to get a job.
[22:47.320 --> 22:50.960]  Then you ought to sit, while you're sitting there, you ought to be researching all the
[22:50.960 --> 22:51.960]  records.
[22:51.960 --> 22:52.960]  Okay.
[22:52.960 --> 23:01.360]  Just to really make them nuts, make them, since you filed the judicial conduct complaint,
[23:01.360 --> 23:06.960]  you know, I go to courthouses and they don't want me there.
[23:06.960 --> 23:10.460]  They want me somewhere else.
[23:10.460 --> 23:17.200]  You might make it so that they don't want you there and these, you might look at how
[23:17.200 --> 23:26.480]  many people are being required to come down and especially people who don't live close.
[23:26.480 --> 23:38.840]  This is an unreasonable cost simply because the court's unable to manage its calendar.
[23:38.840 --> 23:41.600]  This is kind of double jeopardy.
[23:41.600 --> 23:46.520]  You're being penalized and fined because you're on bail.
[23:46.520 --> 23:52.000]  Then you're being fined this extra amount that it costs you to come there and pay for
[23:52.000 --> 23:58.680]  lodging and time away from your employment.
[23:58.680 --> 24:07.360]  You should calculate all this cost you and then charge the court and then file suit against
[24:07.360 --> 24:09.360]  the court for it.
[24:09.360 --> 24:10.360]  Okay.
[24:10.360 --> 24:17.640]  Now, there's a pretty scary thing that I wanted to ask you and that is, when I get there,
[24:17.640 --> 24:22.600]  I know that if I were the judge or if I were the DA and Jeffrey Hill came walking in the
[24:22.600 --> 24:27.360]  courthouse, it's to the point now to where they probably want to run me down in the parking
[24:27.360 --> 24:28.360]  lot.
[24:28.360 --> 24:33.200]  I just have a sneaky suspicion that they'll try to find me in contempt, you know, just
[24:33.200 --> 24:35.320]  if my hair's parted wrong.
[24:35.320 --> 24:38.080]  What happens, I've heard some people that kind of scared me.
[24:38.080 --> 24:42.320]  They said that when you get thrown in for contempt, they can keep you in there for months
[24:42.320 --> 24:43.320]  or years.
[24:43.320 --> 24:54.040]  No, they have to have, if it's criminal contempt, they can hold you until you do something.
[24:54.040 --> 25:00.360]  In either case, you get a hearing almost immediately on the contempt charge.
[25:00.360 --> 25:02.400]  All right.
[25:02.400 --> 25:06.880]  Contempt can really backfire on a judge.
[25:06.880 --> 25:08.880]  Okay.
[25:08.880 --> 25:18.400]  So as long as you are respectful, the fact that you have filed complaints against them,
[25:18.400 --> 25:24.520]  you might have your phone ready to call 911.
[25:24.520 --> 25:25.520]  Okay.
[25:25.520 --> 25:32.840]  You know, anytime I go in a courthouse where I think they're going to be aggressive, I
[25:32.840 --> 25:40.840]  always have my phone in my hand and we are developing an app that you just shake the
[25:40.840 --> 25:48.240]  phone and it will activate live streaming, audio, video recording, it'll do all kinds
[25:48.240 --> 25:52.480]  of really nifty stuff.
[25:52.480 --> 25:59.480]  And if you don't respond to it when it asks you, it'll tell you it detected a G-Force
[25:59.480 --> 26:00.480]  event.
[26:00.480 --> 26:04.720]  If you don't respond, it's going to call 911.
[26:04.720 --> 26:13.280]  And you know, when I have a policeman who is getting agitated and he's wearing a loaded
[26:13.280 --> 26:18.760]  pistol, I call 911.
[26:18.760 --> 26:24.880]  Now maybe a lot of people don't do that, but probably a lot of people haven't spent too
[26:24.880 --> 26:30.120]  much time on the sharp end of one of those deadly weapons.
[26:30.120 --> 26:35.400]  I've spent some time on the sharp end and when I see someone prominently displaying
[26:35.400 --> 26:44.760]  a deadly weapon and they are agitated, I get really, really nervous.
[26:44.760 --> 26:51.200]  And once you've called 911 on the police, it really changes their perspective because
[26:51.200 --> 26:59.320]  now you have the 911 call is recorded and they can't unrecord that one.
[26:59.320 --> 27:04.840]  I know here in Texas, if they even interfere with it, it's felony.
[27:04.840 --> 27:12.440]  And the code for interfering with a 911 call doesn't exempt police.
[27:12.440 --> 27:13.440]  The police can't interfere.
[27:13.440 --> 27:18.840]  There's nothing that says the police can interfere with a 911 call, especially when you call
[27:18.840 --> 27:21.960]  it on them.
[27:21.960 --> 27:26.560]  And that has a tendency to get their attention.
[27:26.560 --> 27:30.520]  And the last time I did that in the Tarrant County courthouse, they knew exactly what
[27:30.520 --> 27:32.520]  I was doing.
[27:32.520 --> 27:35.120]  I was documenting everything I did.
[27:35.120 --> 27:41.480]  Every time they did something stupid, I call 911 again and documented it with the 911,
[27:41.480 --> 27:45.880]  one operator on tape.
[27:45.880 --> 27:47.400]  And they knew I was doing that.
[27:47.400 --> 27:52.960]  And all of a sudden I've got what they're doing in somebody else's hands, someone that
[27:52.960 --> 27:56.360]  they may or may not be able to control.
[27:56.360 --> 28:06.080]  And here, that's probably a good idea, but only do it if you've got somebody getting
[28:06.080 --> 28:08.280]  out of hand.
[28:08.280 --> 28:09.280]  Yeah.
[28:09.280 --> 28:12.880]  If I do get put in contempt and I show up in front of the hearing and I really haven't
[28:12.880 --> 28:17.640]  done anything wrong, like throw my shoes at people, what would be the first thing that
[28:17.640 --> 28:18.640]  you would say?
[28:18.640 --> 28:19.640]  I don't know.
[28:19.640 --> 28:25.440]  It depends on what they're bringing up.
[28:25.440 --> 28:33.280]  It's kind of hard to say and why they would charge you with contempt.
[28:33.280 --> 28:40.040]  Does the attorney general for the state of Mississippi have prosecutorial powers?
[28:40.040 --> 28:45.280]  I think he does, but I'll look that up again because I brought charges against the DA with
[28:45.280 --> 28:46.280]  the attorney general.
[28:46.280 --> 28:47.280]  Okay.
[28:47.280 --> 28:53.520]  They contact the attorney general and give notice to the attorney general that you're
[28:53.520 --> 29:01.040]  being forced to go to this courthouse and you have been abused by them in the past and
[29:01.040 --> 29:10.520]  now you filed complaints against them and you have reason to believe that they plan
[29:10.520 --> 29:20.320]  to deny you due process and set you up for a contempt court charge.
[29:20.320 --> 29:24.080]  If you can get the attorney general to call down there and say, what's going on here?
[29:24.080 --> 29:30.800]  I've got this guy calling me and he's accusing you guys of setting him up for contempt to
[29:30.800 --> 29:36.840]  court just because he beat you in an appeal and you're forced to have the hearing again.
[29:36.840 --> 29:39.720]  Now you're mad at him, blah, blah, blah.
[29:39.720 --> 29:47.520]  It's about getting the issue in some other political official's hands other than this
[29:47.520 --> 29:48.520]  guy's.
[29:48.520 --> 29:49.520]  Okay.
[29:49.520 --> 29:50.520]  We'll be right back.
[29:50.520 --> 29:51.520]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Louisville Radio.
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[33:32.800 --> 34:01.040]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Jeff
[34:01.040 --> 34:02.040]  in Mississippi.
[34:02.040 --> 34:07.000]  Okay, Jeff, do you have all your motions in place?
[34:07.000 --> 34:14.480]  I guess the first question, has your lawyer asked to be removed from the case?
[34:14.480 --> 34:17.000]  Not yet.
[34:17.000 --> 34:18.800]  Are you ready for that?
[34:18.800 --> 34:20.920]  Oh, absolutely.
[34:20.920 --> 34:23.440]  So what are you going to say when she asks to be removed?
[34:23.440 --> 34:29.600]  Well, she's the one that refused to argue any of my motions, and I've got that in writing,
[34:29.600 --> 34:32.960]  so I'm just going to start reading stuff off.
[34:32.960 --> 34:37.600]  Now that brings me to the second question, and that is, as soon as I start reading stuff
[34:37.600 --> 34:43.600]  that my attorney has written me, the DA and the judge are both going to start hooting
[34:43.600 --> 34:47.760]  and hollering so loud that you won't be able to hear me.
[34:47.760 --> 34:49.720]  And what would I do in that case?
[34:49.720 --> 34:54.560]  Just keep talking, or stop, and wait until they stop hooting and hollering.
[34:54.560 --> 34:56.880]  It depends on what they hoot and holler.
[34:56.880 --> 34:58.440]  Okay, wait, hold on.
[34:58.440 --> 35:01.600]  Why are you reading all that off to the court?
[35:01.600 --> 35:05.120]  Oh, to get it onto the record.
[35:05.120 --> 35:09.560]  My attorney refused to put the land title in and threatened to have me arrested without
[35:09.560 --> 35:10.560]  a court order.
[35:10.560 --> 35:15.720]  Halfway through the sentence, there's going to be so much noise that the microphone won't
[35:15.720 --> 35:25.680]  be able to hear me because the DA will just be screaming, jumping up and down as a distraction.
[35:25.680 --> 35:29.680]  That's interesting.
[35:29.680 --> 35:39.440]  Then you might just stop talking until he stops screaming, asking, are you finished?
[35:39.440 --> 35:45.920]  Whatever you do, don't give him the response he expects.
[35:45.920 --> 35:46.920]  Which is yelling.
[35:46.920 --> 35:47.920]  Yeah.
[35:47.920 --> 35:53.440]  Once I asked the judge, I said, your honor, you need to do something with that attorney.
[35:53.440 --> 35:55.040]  I think he's going to have a heart attack.
[35:55.040 --> 35:57.000]  Look the way his veins are bulging out.
[35:57.000 --> 36:00.640]  He was one of these red faced guys.
[36:00.640 --> 36:05.760]  The guy was so furious, he was shaking.
[36:05.760 --> 36:12.320]  Just keep in mind, they know how to get you to dance for them.
[36:12.320 --> 36:14.360]  In the end, you're setting a record for appeal.
[36:14.360 --> 36:18.560]  You don't care what they do.
[36:18.560 --> 36:24.360]  I suggest that everything you want to say to the court, you put it in writing and submit
[36:24.360 --> 36:25.960]  that to the court first.
[36:25.960 --> 36:26.960]  Okay.
[36:26.960 --> 36:29.800]  That's the third question.
[36:29.800 --> 36:35.400]  That is, when I try to submit this into evidence, the judge is going to refuse to allow me to
[36:35.400 --> 36:37.120]  submit any of this into evidence.
[36:37.120 --> 36:38.840]  You don't care what he does.
[36:38.840 --> 36:39.840]  Okay.
[36:39.840 --> 36:43.240]  You're just setting a record for appeal.
[36:43.240 --> 36:46.640]  It's okay.
[36:46.640 --> 36:48.640]  Judge denied me access to the court.
[36:48.640 --> 36:49.640]  Okay.
[36:49.640 --> 36:51.640]  Get you a little paper down there.
[36:51.640 --> 36:55.680]  One of them with judicial conduct complaints, the other one bar grievance.
[36:55.680 --> 36:57.760]  All right.
[36:57.760 --> 37:03.720]  When he doesn't allow you to submit evidence in the case, make a note on the judicial conduct
[37:03.720 --> 37:05.960]  side.
[37:05.960 --> 37:13.000]  When the prosecutor pops off when he should keep his mouth shut, make one on the bar grievance
[37:13.000 --> 37:14.000]  side.
[37:14.000 --> 37:15.000]  All right.
[37:15.000 --> 37:25.600]  Just keep in mind, this is all about setting a record for appeal and think of it in terms
[37:25.600 --> 37:32.920]  of what is going to play well in front of a grand jury of my peers.
[37:32.920 --> 37:38.320]  Everything I do when I go to court, I'm always thinking what will play well before a grand
[37:38.320 --> 37:40.560]  jury of my peers.
[37:40.560 --> 37:43.120]  Got it.
[37:43.120 --> 37:48.680]  If the prosecutor starts yelling, you can ask the judge to ask him to hold his voice
[37:48.680 --> 37:55.760]  down that he's giving you a headache.
[37:55.760 --> 38:03.080]  Instead of getting angry, be a carrier, it's a whole lot more fun that way.
[38:03.080 --> 38:11.720]  When you don't respond the way they anticipate, then it gets them all off their game.
[38:11.720 --> 38:19.760]  Anything you want to say, put it in a document, affidavit form, and every time it's your turn
[38:19.760 --> 38:25.680]  to speak, you have a document you'd like to show to the court.
[38:25.680 --> 38:28.880]  Prosecutor look at it first, he's probably going to object to it, you don't care.
[38:28.880 --> 38:32.760]  Hand it to the judge, this is a statement in affidavit form.
[38:32.760 --> 38:36.640]  File it in the court and read it on the record.
[38:36.640 --> 38:42.080]  Okay, but will they cut me off if I try to read it on the record?
[38:42.080 --> 38:43.080]  That's what I was wanting to know.
[38:43.080 --> 38:44.080]  Who cares?
[38:44.080 --> 38:45.080]  Who cares?
[38:45.080 --> 38:46.080]  Okay.
[38:46.080 --> 38:48.480]  You've got it in a document.
[38:48.480 --> 38:53.960]  Even if they don't accept it, you don't care because you got it in a document, you presented
[38:53.960 --> 38:56.640]  it to the court.
[38:56.640 --> 39:00.840]  That document you can take to the court of appeals, you don't care what the judge does.
[39:00.840 --> 39:01.840]  Really?
[39:01.840 --> 39:02.840]  Okay.
[39:02.840 --> 39:03.840]  Okay.
[39:03.840 --> 39:04.840]  That's what I wanted to know, yeah.
[39:04.840 --> 39:08.160]  Yeah, everything is just set in the record.
[39:08.160 --> 39:13.520]  Everything doesn't have to be read into the record, the judge, if he refuses to let you
[39:13.520 --> 39:18.480]  present evidence in your case, that's grounds for appeal.
[39:18.480 --> 39:25.320]  If he refuses you to allow you to insist on adequate representation, that's grounds for
[39:25.320 --> 39:28.760]  appeal.
[39:28.760 --> 39:30.900]  So you just want to get grounds for appeal.
[39:30.900 --> 39:35.180]  You beat them on appeal last time.
[39:35.180 --> 39:41.000]  If you go back on the same issue, they're likely to toss the whole thing.
[39:41.000 --> 39:46.120]  So go ahead guys, screw it up as bad as you can.
[39:46.120 --> 39:50.960]  And then you turn around and do a 42 U.S. Code 1983 suit on them.
[39:50.960 --> 39:53.400]  All right.
[39:53.400 --> 39:59.160]  And look at 42 U.S. Code 1983, see what you have to establish.
[39:59.160 --> 40:07.040]  And one thing you might do is consider using terms like the prosecutor is perpetrating
[40:07.040 --> 40:11.200]  an ongoing criminal enterprise.
[40:11.200 --> 40:14.400]  This is simply a predicate act.
[40:14.400 --> 40:22.440]  Predicate acts, ongoing criminal enterprise, those are the terms that signal RICO.
[40:22.440 --> 40:25.400]  They just scream RICO.
[40:25.400 --> 40:33.600]  And that'll tell them, without telling them, that you're setting them up for a RICO suit.
[40:33.600 --> 40:40.960]  I had a bailiff at the family court in Tarrant County screaming at me in the hall while I
[40:40.960 --> 40:43.960]  was dialing 911.
[40:43.960 --> 40:45.840]  They asked me what his name was.
[40:45.840 --> 40:47.120]  I said, I don't know.
[40:47.120 --> 40:49.680]  He's screaming too loud for me to answer.
[40:49.680 --> 40:53.240]  He's getting slobber all over the phone.
[40:53.240 --> 40:56.240]  And the guy is just shaking, he's so furious.
[40:56.240 --> 41:00.800]  And then he goes back in the courtroom and goes and tells the judge that Randy Kelton's
[41:00.800 --> 41:05.800]  out in the hall and he's setting us up for a RICO suit.
[41:05.800 --> 41:10.840]  That's because nothing he did mattered to me.
[41:10.840 --> 41:13.800]  I didn't care.
[41:13.800 --> 41:19.520]  He's screaming, making a fool of himself, and I'm thinking, oh goody, this is really
[41:19.520 --> 41:26.040]  going to look bad for these guys.
[41:26.040 --> 41:30.640]  The worse they act, the better.
[41:30.640 --> 41:34.480]  And if you stay calm, you don't get excited.
[41:34.480 --> 41:38.760]  All you're doing is setting a record for appeal.
[41:38.760 --> 41:41.400]  Everything they do, object, let the record reflect.
[41:41.400 --> 41:46.080]  When he overrules your objection, let the record reflect defendant's exception to the
[41:46.080 --> 41:47.080]  ruling.
[41:47.080 --> 41:49.880]  You'll get tired of hearing that.
[41:49.880 --> 41:54.840]  I've had the judge say, I've got that Mr. Kelton, you don't have to do that with everything.
[41:54.840 --> 42:00.560]  Then if the court will accept my exception to every overruled objection, then I'll be
[42:00.560 --> 42:01.560]  fine with that.
[42:01.560 --> 42:02.560]  Will the court accept that?
[42:02.560 --> 42:03.560]  Yes, we accept that, Mr. Kelton.
[42:03.560 --> 42:06.120]  So I don't have to do that anymore.
[42:06.120 --> 42:12.840]  So everything I object to, the exception's on the record and just let them do whatever.
[42:12.840 --> 42:18.800]  Just mark it, got another one, got another one, so you beat them last time in an appeal,
[42:18.800 --> 42:20.960]  you beat them this time.
[42:20.960 --> 42:30.360]  And when the lawyer has to be removed, demand that she not be removed, because the judge
[42:30.360 --> 42:36.040]  is going to remove her anyway.
[42:36.040 --> 42:41.400]  That is an administrative act.
[42:41.400 --> 42:43.000]  You know what that means?
[42:43.000 --> 42:44.920]  No, I don't.
[42:44.920 --> 42:47.640]  You can sue the judge for interfering with the private contract.
[42:47.640 --> 42:53.280]  Okay, well I've got him on the record doing that the last time.
[42:53.280 --> 42:56.720]  Then you need to file suit against him for that.
[42:56.720 --> 43:02.280]  That's administrative, that's not judicial.
[43:02.280 --> 43:07.720]  And for the administrative side, they don't have any immunity.
[43:07.720 --> 43:15.960]  And the appeals court have upheld that you were denied adequate counsel.
[43:15.960 --> 43:20.720]  So you got a real good shot at him.
[43:20.720 --> 43:25.040]  That's going to make the judge really, really unhappy.
[43:25.040 --> 43:29.120]  And that's going to make him want your case to go away.
[43:29.120 --> 43:31.920]  All right.
[43:31.920 --> 43:36.600]  Okay, we're going to move on.
[43:36.600 --> 43:37.600]  Let us know what happens.
[43:37.600 --> 43:38.600]  Okay, I sure will.
[43:38.600 --> 43:39.600]  Thank you.
[43:39.600 --> 43:40.600]  Okay.
[43:40.600 --> 43:45.600]  If I get a call from a jail cell, I'll say, Jeff, whoo.
[43:45.600 --> 43:48.520]  Okay, good luck, Jeff.
[43:48.520 --> 43:52.360]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens with our radio.
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[46:02.200 --> 46:21.880]  If you did not have any problems where you want to look for one, if you could not wait
[46:21.880 --> 46:46.320]  Hey Randy, even though you don't like to get into esoteric stuff with the law and you like
[46:46.320 --> 46:51.080]  to stick with the statutes and the case law, there is one specific case out of Australia
[46:51.080 --> 46:55.480]  that makes people wonder if this guy can pull this off in Australia, does this mean anybody
[46:55.480 --> 46:56.480]  anywhere else can?
[46:56.480 --> 46:59.800]  Well, first of all, have you heard of, are you aware of the whole thing that Santos Bonacci
[46:59.800 --> 47:03.160]  went through for not paying toll booth fees?
[47:03.160 --> 47:04.160]  No.
[47:04.160 --> 47:11.680]  No, well, he was not paying toll road fees and he got arrested for it at the beginning
[47:11.680 --> 47:12.680]  of 2014.
[47:12.680 --> 47:16.840]  Okay, wait, what was the guy's name?
[47:16.840 --> 47:22.800]  Santos Bonacci, popular guy in the world of astrology and law too and he also supports
[47:22.800 --> 47:28.640]  the work of Dean Clifford, that's one area of law that he specializes in and I'm pointing
[47:28.640 --> 47:36.480]  this out because his way of supposedly winning the case was he asserts that it's a lot deeper
[47:36.480 --> 47:40.080]  in the courtroom than simply alleging that he did something in a commercial capacity
[47:40.080 --> 47:44.040]  over which there exists some governmental regulatory authority.
[47:44.040 --> 47:48.640]  He says if you go down the rabbit hole, it's a lot more complicated than that, he claims
[47:48.640 --> 47:52.520]  the whole birth certificate straw man thing about using your birth certificate to turn
[47:52.520 --> 47:56.440]  you into a corporation and your name being in all capital letters on that and he asserts
[47:56.440 --> 48:00.920]  that what Dean Clifford says about trust law in his presentations in the courtroom, trust
[48:00.920 --> 48:06.400]  law in the courtroom is very true and what Santos Bonacci did to allegedly win his case,
[48:06.400 --> 48:11.040]  I'm not really aware if it's still going on, it hasn't been publicized much, but he
[48:11.040 --> 48:15.840]  claims that the courts, because they allegedly turn you into a corporation through the birth
[48:15.840 --> 48:21.480]  certificate straw man and since corporation is based on the word corpse which implies
[48:21.480 --> 48:25.600]  death, they are treating you as a dead person so what he did was he went to the live birth
[48:25.600 --> 48:31.520]  registry and filled out some paperwork that he claims put him into the land of the living
[48:31.520 --> 48:36.640]  and when he tried to use that in the courtroom, when he put that on the judge's table or wherever
[48:36.640 --> 48:41.360]  he was laid to put it, he said the judge would not take his case because all along they're
[48:41.360 --> 48:47.880]  treating you as a dead person and he was not dead because he filed these land of the living
[48:47.880 --> 48:52.040]  documents and one could say, well you could have just said you were not in a commercial
[48:52.040 --> 48:56.920]  capacity so you don't have to pay toll booth fees and all that, but he allegedly was trying
[48:56.920 --> 49:01.920]  to make a point, Winston Shroud said, I think Santos Bonacci was trying to prove some sort
[49:01.920 --> 49:06.320]  of a point to the whole world by doing this and it's kind of risky, Winston said, but
[49:06.320 --> 49:10.400]  hey, I mean if he can pull it off, people are certainly going to think why can't anybody
[49:10.400 --> 49:13.560]  anywhere pull it off because Santos said it doesn't matter what country or state you're
[49:13.560 --> 49:18.200]  in, this is the laws or rights and all that, so what do you have to say about this whole
[49:18.200 --> 49:30.200]  thing about filing land of the living documents and the courts treating you like you're dead?
[49:30.200 --> 49:46.640]  Oh, somebody muted me again, okay, sorry about that, this whole thing about taking words
[49:46.640 --> 49:55.600]  apart and taking a piece of a word and deciding that that piece of a word means something
[49:55.600 --> 50:04.240]  different than the entire word is just utter nonsense, it sounds like, oh, I met this guy's
[50:04.240 --> 50:14.960]  wife, the one that has a whole new entomology, I will think of his name in a minute, that
[50:14.960 --> 50:20.560]  all of us have been using language for several thousand years and we have no idea what the
[50:20.560 --> 50:25.000]  language actually means and we needed this guy to come along and straighten us all out
[50:25.000 --> 50:29.560]  on it, all the words we use mean something totally different to what we think they mean
[50:29.560 --> 50:36.520]  because 5,000 years ago the entomology of this word, the core of this word meant something
[50:36.520 --> 50:43.560]  else, now today it means that still, this is nonsense, corporation means a fictional
[50:43.560 --> 50:52.080]  legal entity, doesn't mean a dead person, CORPS, if you were in the Marine Corps that
[50:52.080 --> 51:01.000]  doesn't mean you were dead, it means something else, to take that kind of, I've been through
[51:01.000 --> 51:13.560]  this a lot with guys in legal reform, to take a line of logic like this, that corporation
[51:13.560 --> 51:26.280]  starts out with CORP, therefore it means CORPS, well that may be a proper syllogism, but it's
[51:26.280 --> 51:36.760]  specious logic, just because corporation starts with CORP does not mean it means a CORPS.
[51:36.760 --> 51:42.400]  Well Randy, just a moment, there's also the idea that because gravestones have letters
[51:42.400 --> 51:48.640]  and all capital letters and the whole idea of capital, maximum, whatever it's pronounced,
[51:48.640 --> 51:51.800]  that would turn you into a corporation putting your name and all capital letters on your
[51:51.800 --> 51:57.640]  birth certificate, that is also another basis for the idea that your name and all caps implies
[51:57.640 --> 52:00.040]  that you are dead because that's how it's done, gravestones.
[52:00.040 --> 52:08.960]  You need to talk to the Amish, they understand this concept, this whole straw man thing,
[52:08.960 --> 52:17.280]  they intuitively understand it, you have your private side and you have your public side.
[52:17.280 --> 52:22.200]  Most of us don't understand the difference, the Amish really do because they're very private
[52:22.200 --> 52:30.240]  people and they understand that when they step into the public, then they're in their
[52:30.240 --> 52:37.480]  straw man, when they step out of the public, then they're in their private person.
[52:37.480 --> 52:42.960]  When you go before the courts, you go before the courts in your straw man, there's no way
[52:42.960 --> 52:45.160]  around that.
[52:45.160 --> 52:53.600]  We can call it all caps, all caps don't mean anything, I can't find anything in law that
[52:53.600 --> 52:57.960]  makes a distinction between uppercase and lowercase.
[52:57.960 --> 53:03.040]  I've heard people do all this song and dance, but I'm an engineer, all I can do is connect
[53:03.040 --> 53:05.240]  the dots.
[53:05.240 --> 53:09.640]  When I go to the court, I have to connect the legal dots.
[53:09.640 --> 53:15.760]  You cannot make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth, you must make it out
[53:15.760 --> 53:17.480]  of the mouth of the courts.
[53:17.480 --> 53:25.120]  Where is this, has this been established in the corpus juris or the storage of thesis?
[53:25.120 --> 53:34.960]  If I can't find it there, I can't use it, so they may be right, but I can't use it.
[53:34.960 --> 53:40.680]  Gene Keaton, Ralph Winnerud, all these guys coming up with this stuff and they're giving
[53:40.680 --> 53:45.040]  me this long lines of you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't do this, you can't
[53:45.040 --> 53:49.040]  do that, but don't give me the code connected together.
[53:49.040 --> 53:55.480]  When I start reading the code they do give me, most of the time it doesn't apply, I get
[53:55.480 --> 53:58.920]  real frustrated with that.
[53:58.920 --> 54:04.640]  Arguments like this, he may be right, but I would have absolutely no idea how to make
[54:04.640 --> 54:05.640]  this argument.
[54:05.640 --> 54:12.200]  And if I can't make the argument, I'm not going to be able to get the judge to understand
[54:12.200 --> 54:16.360]  the argument, and the judge-
[54:16.360 --> 54:22.680]  Santos said that the judge did not take his case because he showed him the document that
[54:22.680 --> 54:26.680]  put him into the land of the living and made him no longer a dead man.
[54:26.680 --> 54:39.640]  Okay, that sounds like a guy we had called into the show, and he was talking about rule
[54:39.640 --> 54:48.880]  17 of the federal code of criminal procedure, where, what do you call it, oh man, I forget
[54:48.880 --> 54:50.680]  what he called it.
[54:50.680 --> 55:00.600]  He went in and demanded that they, that the, essentially the prosecutor has to show standing,
[55:00.600 --> 55:03.440]  and there's a special term for it.
[55:03.440 --> 55:11.160]  And he went in and demanded that, and the court let him out with no bond.
[55:11.160 --> 55:16.040]  And he's crowing like a rooster, and he'd come on air and he's doing all this huffing
[55:16.040 --> 55:20.520]  and puffing that this was some kind of magic bullet, and I got out the code and read it,
[55:20.520 --> 55:28.480]  and that's just like in a civil case, demanding that a lawyer show proof of agency to represent
[55:28.480 --> 55:29.480]  the client.
[55:29.480 --> 55:35.280]  If I had time, I'd look that up on the air, you'd recognize it if I could think of it,
[55:35.280 --> 55:38.520]  but it meant nothing.
[55:38.520 --> 55:44.680]  And we told the guy, you're crowing like you want something in the federal court.
[55:44.680 --> 55:50.160]  They almost always release you on your personal recognizance, and oh no, no, this is because
[55:50.160 --> 55:54.680]  I did this is why they released me with no bond.
[55:54.680 --> 56:04.040]  And we listened to his case and we said, buddy, you're going to jail, he's in jail right now.
[56:04.040 --> 56:10.080]  He did something, the courts did something, and without looking closely at what was going
[56:10.080 --> 56:17.160]  on, he decided why the courts did what they did when it didn't have anything to do with
[56:17.160 --> 56:18.160]  it.
[56:18.160 --> 56:22.880]  And a lot of times you'll do something and the court really don't know what the heck
[56:22.880 --> 56:24.480]  you're doing.
[56:24.480 --> 56:29.080]  So they'll stop, they'll back up, they'll go do their homework.
[56:29.080 --> 56:35.000]  Remember the big deal over 1099-OIDs?
[56:35.000 --> 56:43.160]  Everybody said, oh, you just file this 1099-OID and the IRS will send you all your money back.
[56:43.160 --> 56:44.760]  You know, that just didn't sound right.
[56:44.760 --> 56:50.800]  They came to me with it and I said, it doesn't sound right.
[56:50.800 --> 56:55.400]  And generally in law, if something doesn't sound right, it's probably not.
[56:55.400 --> 57:00.240]  Oh, but the IRS is sending all these people checks, maybe.
[57:00.240 --> 57:06.560]  And maybe the IRS just hasn't figured out what the problem is yet.
[57:06.560 --> 57:11.640]  And it turned out that the 1099-OID was designed for something totally separate.
[57:11.640 --> 57:18.520]  And these people started filing it and their computer system wasn't set up to catch it.
[57:18.520 --> 57:24.880]  And finally they caught it and the guys who were promoting it are in jail now.
[57:24.880 --> 57:28.800]  Even though for a year or a year and a half or so, it worked just fine.
[57:28.800 --> 57:33.060]  Lots of people got lots of money back and then all of a sudden the IRS come along and
[57:33.060 --> 57:36.560]  landed on them like a ton of bricks.
[57:36.560 --> 57:43.960]  So I'm going to be really, really cautious with these things folks promote that sound
[57:43.960 --> 57:45.320]  like a silver bullet.
[57:45.320 --> 57:50.120]  I'm not saying he's not right.
[57:50.120 --> 57:58.440]  I'm just saying that he would have to give me chapter and verse and connect all the dots.
[57:58.440 --> 58:05.040]  The thing I come across most is they connect most of the dots and then there's this one
[58:05.040 --> 58:09.920]  little spot they jump across and then they start connecting dots again.
[58:09.920 --> 58:14.440]  And that always causes me to hiccup and say, whoa, whoa, hold on.
[58:14.440 --> 58:16.560]  You know, I'm an engineer.
[58:16.560 --> 58:18.240]  All I can do is connect dots.
[58:18.240 --> 58:22.560]  But when I got one missing, I got a problem.
[58:22.560 --> 58:23.560]  Here I got a bunch missing.
[58:23.560 --> 58:27.760]  I have a problem with the original premise.
[58:27.760 --> 58:34.400]  So when we come back, I'm going to let you see if we could explain that again because
[58:34.400 --> 58:36.000]  it was new to me.
[58:36.000 --> 58:37.560]  I didn't get all the pieces.
[58:37.560 --> 58:38.560]  Let's try that again.
[58:38.560 --> 58:39.560]  Maybe I'll better understand.
[58:39.560 --> 58:40.560]  That sound fair?
[58:40.560 --> 58:41.560]  Yeah.
[58:41.560 --> 58:42.560]  Okay.
[58:42.560 --> 58:43.560]  Hang on.
[58:43.560 --> 58:50.400]  We'll be right back.
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[01:02:59.560 --> 01:03:22.560]  They were rich and come from the land of the world nation, but they had to make the land
[01:03:22.560 --> 01:03:45.200]  of the world nation.
[01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:46.200]  We are back.
[01:03:46.200 --> 01:03:52.840]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue de la Radio, and we're talking to Andrew in
[01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:53.840]  Pennsylvania.
[01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:55.760]  Okay, Andrew, will you explain that again?
[01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.120]  On the break, I tried to find Santos Benet.
[01:04:00.120 --> 01:04:01.120]  How do you spell his last name?
[01:04:01.120 --> 01:04:02.120]  B-A-N-A-T-H-Y?
[01:04:02.120 --> 01:04:11.600]  No, no, no, no, B-O-N, as in Nancy, A-C-C-I.
[01:04:11.600 --> 01:04:13.400]  That's why I didn't find him.
[01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:14.400]  Benach.
[01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.480]  Okay.
[01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:17.480]  Explain that again.
[01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:21.920]  Maybe I'll understand it better this time.
[01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:22.920]  Okay.
[01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:30.280]  In early 2014, Santos was arrested in Australia for not paying toll route fees.
[01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:34.720]  He always just drove by the toll booth apparently, never paid the fee or picked up a ticket.
[01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:37.240]  He fought his case.
[01:04:37.240 --> 01:04:41.200]  His case is based on the idea that the birth certificate straw man is real, the courts
[01:04:41.200 --> 01:04:45.200]  are treating you not just as a corporation through the name and all capital letters on
[01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:50.400]  the birth certificate, and also that means that you're dead for the couple of reasons
[01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:51.400]  I explained earlier.
[01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:55.520]  So he says the courts are treating you like a dead person, and he also says, Dean Clifford,
[01:04:55.520 --> 01:04:59.600]  what Dean Clifford says about trust law in courts is very, very true.
[01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:04.480]  And Santos, what he did, he went to the live birth registry.
[01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:08.840]  He failed out paperwork that put him into the land of the living.
[01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:10.640]  He's no longer dead.
[01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:14.640]  He took that paperwork to the court, showed it to the judge.
[01:05:14.640 --> 01:05:19.280]  And he said that since the courts in every nation on earth are treating you not just
[01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:24.720]  as a corporation, but also as a dead person, the judge would not take his case because
[01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:29.800]  of the paperwork that officially put him into the land of the living.
[01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:34.760]  And he asserts this would work everywhere because this is what everybody is doing.
[01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:38.040]  And in an interview on the news, they kept asking, do you actually think this is going
[01:05:38.040 --> 01:05:42.360]  to make you win the case, and Winston Shroud was, like I said, was skeptical, saying he's
[01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:43.360]  just trying to prove a point.
[01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:44.360]  It's very risky.
[01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.960]  But hey, some people think he's going to pull this off.
[01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:48.760]  So that's the gist of it.
[01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:49.760]  Oh, OK.
[01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:54.040]  So he's still adjudicating his issue.
[01:05:54.040 --> 01:05:59.680]  So I know that probably, he recently came out on some radio shows after being on like
[01:05:59.680 --> 01:06:04.880]  a radio show hiatus for like three quarters of the year, but maybe it's worth listening
[01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:08.160]  to one of those to see what he's been through recently.
[01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:12.200]  But that's the whole gist of how he's fighting his case.
[01:06:12.200 --> 01:06:17.680]  OK, I have, I found him on the web.
[01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:23.240]  So to quote, OK, the corruption is being revealed more and more blatantly around us
[01:06:23.240 --> 01:06:24.400]  everywhere we look.
[01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:30.040]  The injustice of the powers that be finds are a huge revenue source to the corporations
[01:06:30.040 --> 01:06:38.720]  they're addicted to, filthy energy, geoengineering, GMO, fracking and smart grids, radiation and
[01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:43.200]  data gathering, pharmaceutical drugs, blah, blah, blah, blah, whole litany of that.
[01:06:43.200 --> 01:06:44.480]  Why would they do that?
[01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.560]  Because they are, again, hugely profiting from sickness.
[01:06:47.560 --> 01:06:49.400]  OK, I'm not sure.
[01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:54.680]  I'm looking for something about what he's actually doing and what I'm getting is a lot
[01:06:54.680 --> 01:06:55.680]  of propaganda.
[01:06:55.680 --> 01:06:57.680]  Wow, that's a description.
[01:06:57.680 --> 01:06:58.680]  OK.
[01:06:58.680 --> 01:07:03.440]  It's still the land of the living.
[01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:13.520]  This is a whole new take on this straw man issue that I haven't heard before.
[01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:24.120]  A lot of it's familiar to breaking the fictitious fictions of religion, science and law anyway.
[01:07:24.120 --> 01:07:30.360]  I still don't understand how he gets there.
[01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:39.000]  You used the corporation issue, but is that really indicative of what he's claiming?
[01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:41.720]  It's got to be more to it than just the term corporation.
[01:07:41.720 --> 01:07:47.080]  Well, the more to it is the fact that they're treating you as a dead person.
[01:07:47.080 --> 01:07:48.080]  Are you there?
[01:07:48.080 --> 01:07:49.080]  I'm not dead anymore.
[01:07:49.080 --> 01:07:50.080]  Yeah, I'm here.
[01:07:50.080 --> 01:07:51.080]  Can you hear me?
[01:07:51.080 --> 01:07:52.080]  Let's see.
[01:07:52.080 --> 01:07:56.120]  Andrew, are you still there?
[01:07:56.120 --> 01:07:58.640]  I am here, but.
[01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:01.240]  Looks like we must have lost Andrew.
[01:08:01.240 --> 01:08:07.480]  OK, well, I really don't know how to address this.
[01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:11.360]  This makes me uncomfortable.
[01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:15.880]  If you've been listening to the show a long time, you've heard a number of people come
[01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:25.440]  on with a lot of these legal reform ideas and a lot of stuff about the corporation and
[01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:31.640]  the corporate entity and how the laws don't apply.
[01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:36.520]  Quite frankly, I don't know.
[01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:42.340]  I've tried to understand these arguments, but I never could get a clear understanding
[01:08:42.340 --> 01:08:54.560]  because I keep winding up with unstated and unsupported presuppositions, and as an engineer,
[01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:55.560]  I don't get to do that.
[01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:02.720]  If you listen to the show a lot, you'll know that there are times when I'm frustrated with
[01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:11.360]  myself because I find that I have been operating from an unstated presupposition that I just
[01:09:11.360 --> 01:09:14.240]  didn't recognize.
[01:09:14.240 --> 01:09:21.520]  And here, when I talk to these guys, I get lots of unstated presuppositions that if you
[01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:28.280]  don't question the underpinnings of their arguments on the surface, they have the appearance
[01:09:28.280 --> 01:09:31.280]  of making sense.
[01:09:31.280 --> 01:09:36.020]  And that goes to the adage that logic is not truth.
[01:09:36.020 --> 01:09:41.900]  It merely has the ring of truth, and therefore is the first refuge of the scoundrel.
[01:09:41.900 --> 01:09:43.720]  We have to do more than logic.
[01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:50.960]  We have to do more than say, because of this, then this, and if this is so, then because
[01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.480]  of this, then this other.
[01:09:53.480 --> 01:10:02.280]  And each one of these logical steps we make is depending on not only the truth of the
[01:10:02.280 --> 01:10:09.880]  ones before it, but the context and applicability of the ones before it.
[01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:16.840]  You know, I'm addressing grand juries, and that's been one of my primary research areas
[01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.960]  for a very long time.
[01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:33.040]  And just recently, I looked at a grand jury issue, and I was annoyed at myself, because
[01:10:33.040 --> 01:10:37.480]  a really major issue had been right there in front of me for 30 years, and I couldn't
[01:10:37.480 --> 01:10:42.120]  see it in you.
[01:10:42.120 --> 01:10:48.800]  If you file a lawsuit, the very first thing you have to put in the body of the suit are
[01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:51.760]  the parties, you name the parties.
[01:10:51.760 --> 01:11:01.640]  The second thing, jurisdiction and venue, I mean, it's right up there at the front.
[01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:13.560]  So why is it that for 30 years it never occurred to me that never anywhere in law did I ever
[01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:20.240]  see anything about venue as it applies to a grand jury?
[01:11:20.240 --> 01:11:23.640]  I went to prosecuting attorneys, and they say, oh, this didn't happen in this county.
[01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:27.400]  You don't have to take it to grand jury in that county.
[01:11:27.400 --> 01:11:28.400]  Why?
[01:11:28.400 --> 01:11:32.080]  Back to the edge.
[01:11:32.080 --> 01:11:35.680]  Public official may only do what he's specifically authorized to do.
[01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:40.440]  You as a private citizen can do anything you want to.
[01:11:40.440 --> 01:11:44.560]  So long as you are not specifically prohibited.
[01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:49.160]  So we have a state grand jury, okay.
[01:11:49.160 --> 01:11:57.640]  State grand jury is put in place by a district judge, and that district judge has a, while
[01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:07.800]  he is a state official and has statewide jurisdiction, his jurisdiction is statutorily limited to
[01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:17.480]  a venue, to a given geographical area within the borders of the state of Texas.
[01:12:17.480 --> 01:12:24.680]  There is nothing of that nature concerning the grand jury that he impanels.
[01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:36.720]  It seems as though we just accepted without consideration that the grand jury's reach
[01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:42.520]  was only, goes only as far as the judge who puts him in place.
[01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:53.680]  But Scalia in Williams v. State stated that while a district court consecrates a grand
[01:12:53.680 --> 01:13:00.880]  jury, once the grand jury is in place, it is essentially a fourth branch of government
[01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.880]  over which the district court has no jurisdiction.
[01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:11.480]  So clearly the grand jury's jurisdiction and the judge who impaneled the grand jury's
[01:13:11.480 --> 01:13:14.160]  jurisdiction are not the same.
[01:13:14.160 --> 01:13:25.040]  But somehow I just accepted venue restrictions as an unstated presupposition.
[01:13:25.040 --> 01:13:35.760]  One of the hardest things for us to do is find those unstated presuppositions we operate
[01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:37.760]  from.
[01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:49.000]  And when people talk about getting outside the box, it is the unstated presuppositions
[01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:55.400]  that we go by without thinking that defines the box.
[01:13:55.400 --> 01:13:59.480]  Thus the difficulty of getting outside the box.
[01:13:59.480 --> 01:14:05.160]  Because essentially those unstated presuppositions are invisible to us.
[01:14:05.160 --> 01:14:08.200]  It takes someone else.
[01:14:08.200 --> 01:14:14.360]  It takes the innocent child to say that the king has no clothes.
[01:14:14.360 --> 01:14:17.960]  Because the rest of us are supposed to see clothes, we used to see clothes, and we see
[01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:21.400]  clothes whether they are there or not.
[01:14:21.400 --> 01:14:22.400]  We see facts.
[01:14:22.400 --> 01:14:31.560]  Witnesses are terribly untrustworthy because they see what they expect to see.
[01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:37.480]  They look at the world from their own mental model of the world and they take all of the
[01:14:37.480 --> 01:14:43.520]  input that they perceive and frame it into their own personal mental model.
[01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:48.920]  So they wind up only seeing what they expect to see and only seeing it in the way that
[01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.440]  they expect to see it.
[01:14:52.440 --> 01:14:54.920]  So it's difficult for us to find those presuppositions.
[01:14:54.920 --> 01:15:03.640]  When somebody comes to us and makes this statement and it really sounds reasonable and logical
[01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:07.400]  and it makes sense, we tend to accept that.
[01:15:07.400 --> 01:15:17.440]  And then he takes this determination from this logical syllogism and he uses that to
[01:15:17.440 --> 01:15:23.280]  draw another conclusion through another syllogism and then another one.
[01:15:23.280 --> 01:15:34.760]  Well if any one of those in the process is specious, if any one of the logical premises
[01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:45.000]  is either not true totally or not exactly true in this context, then the whole structure
[01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.200]  falls apart.
[01:15:47.200 --> 01:15:53.720]  Thus logic is not truth, it merely has the ring of truth and therefore is the first refuge
[01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:55.720]  of the scoundrel.
[01:15:55.720 --> 01:16:04.680]  And I get real excited when people start postulating these positions that I can't find a way
[01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:07.160]  to support.
[01:16:07.160 --> 01:16:13.560]  I don't know of anyone getting in trouble following the things I've suggested that
[01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:21.080]  they do and the reason being is I've always suggested that we pretend like the statutes
[01:16:21.080 --> 01:16:25.640]  apply because the judge is going to pretend like they apply and the police are going to
[01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:27.480]  pretend like they apply.
[01:16:27.480 --> 01:16:33.840]  So I'll just pretend like they apply and that's okay because all the checks and balances,
[01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:38.080]  all the remedies I need are written right into that thing.
[01:16:38.080 --> 01:16:42.600]  So I don't have to worry about these unpleasant surprises.
[01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:48.880]  Hang on, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue of Law Radio are calling number 512-646-1984.
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[01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:06.360]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rural Rail Radio, and Alan Pennsylvania.
[01:20:06.360 --> 01:20:13.280]  Apparently, my headset crapped out and I thought that we had a problem with you and the fact
[01:20:13.280 --> 01:20:15.680]  was I had a problem with me.
[01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:16.840]  So you were fine.
[01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:20.200]  I got my system rebooted over the break.
[01:20:20.200 --> 01:20:27.440]  If you will call back, I would very much like to hear your input and I apologize for the
[01:20:27.440 --> 01:20:29.960]  issue.
[01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:36.920]  I guess I was talking too much and not listening near enough because I wasn't hearing anything.
[01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:42.480]  Anyway, and I hope I'm not stepping on your toes.
[01:20:42.480 --> 01:20:45.040]  I don't mean to.
[01:20:45.040 --> 01:20:50.320]  It's just that I've been called all over the country to help get people out of jail for
[01:20:50.320 --> 01:21:00.480]  following these supposed gurus that have these magic fixes that seem to work okay for a while
[01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:06.160]  and kill the legal system kind of gets them figured out and then they come back and land
[01:21:06.160 --> 01:21:10.400]  on them like a ton of bricks.
[01:21:10.400 --> 01:21:22.160]  I am very reluctant to suggest someone do something that I can't frame in the law the
[01:21:22.160 --> 01:21:26.960]  courts pretend to be using.
[01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:33.040]  I understand there are guys out there that will say that it doesn't apply and that the
[01:21:33.040 --> 01:21:36.040]  natural law applies and they talk about the common law.
[01:21:36.040 --> 01:21:39.480]  Well, I don't know what the common law is.
[01:21:39.480 --> 01:21:41.560]  I've asked a lot of people to show me the common law.
[01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:46.880]  I can't find it and I would like to because it sounds like it could be great fun.
[01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:54.640]  Okay, we've got Andrew back and Andrew, I apologize for the difficulty.
[01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:58.720]  I guess everybody else could hear you and I must have really sounded like a moron.
[01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:02.440]  Okay, go ahead, Andrew.
[01:22:02.440 --> 01:22:07.000]  I thought maybe the NSA sabotaged my call or something because I could hear you fine
[01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:13.280]  over my phone, but anyway, in regards to what you said about I don't know if I can trust
[01:22:13.280 --> 01:22:17.560]  this, hey, you're entitled to your opinion, use the statutes in the case law if that's
[01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:18.920]  the way you want to go about it.
[01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:24.320]  That's pretty much the only response I got there, but you know what, since you just said
[01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:26.040]  common law, what is it?
[01:22:26.040 --> 01:22:31.400]  Well, I remember that a conversation I had with you on Facebook recently about how Eddie
[01:22:31.400 --> 01:22:36.480]  Craig says it's a misconception to say common law is law made by judges, it's law based
[01:22:36.480 --> 01:22:40.520]  on the Magna Carta, which was created by the barons and nobles who were subordinate to
[01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:44.800]  the king and they created the Magna Carta to rebel against the king.
[01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:48.720]  Now, I remember you said, well, the Magna Carta is dead because those same people eventually
[01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:50.440]  pledged their allegiance to the king.
[01:22:50.440 --> 01:22:51.440]  Well-
[01:22:51.440 --> 01:22:52.440]  No, no, no, wait.
[01:22:52.440 --> 01:22:55.720]  I didn't say the Magna Carta was dead.
[01:22:55.720 --> 01:23:02.600]  The Magna Carta that was signed in 1216 does not in any way resemble the current Magna
[01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:14.400]  Carta, but even so, the Magna Carta doesn't apply here and people talk about the common
[01:23:14.400 --> 01:23:16.120]  law.
[01:23:16.120 --> 01:23:24.760]  At the time of the Magna Carta, the common law was clearly judicial equity.
[01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:32.560]  The judges looked at a case and compared both sides and they decided what they believed
[01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:40.400]  was just or equitable and what they ruled became the law.
[01:23:40.400 --> 01:23:43.800]  That became the story of decisis.
[01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:53.800]  Well, I don't want my judges exercising their personal discretion because the judge may
[01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:55.320]  be annoyed at me.
[01:23:55.320 --> 01:24:05.600]  He may not like the way I dress or the way I hold myself or he might not like my politics.
[01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:11.280]  Even if he intended to be fair, that would skew his decision making.
[01:24:11.280 --> 01:24:19.600]  I want my judges very tightly bound to my law.
[01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:28.400]  We have a very well constructed corpus juris.
[01:24:28.400 --> 01:24:33.840]  Even if we had common law, I don't like it, but I don't know that we even have common
[01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:36.040]  law anymore.
[01:24:36.040 --> 01:24:47.080]  Okay, with that said, the courts will call the penal code, the penal laws, they tend
[01:24:47.080 --> 01:24:50.320]  to call that the common law.
[01:24:50.320 --> 01:24:56.920]  If you violate a penal statute, they call that a common law violation, but that's not
[01:24:56.920 --> 01:25:01.800]  the common law these guys are talking about.
[01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:06.740]  Where would I look for the common law these people are talking about that want to go back
[01:25:06.740 --> 01:25:09.320]  to the common law?
[01:25:09.320 --> 01:25:17.360]  How would I know when I'm following law and when I'm not following law in a common law
[01:25:17.360 --> 01:25:18.360]  system?
[01:25:18.360 --> 01:25:23.600]  Well, is it possible maybe the answer to that question is you have to look at what the founding
[01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.240]  fathers said because they had to start from scratch.
[01:25:26.240 --> 01:25:31.520]  They decided, okay, the Magna Carta common law is the best way to go, so maybe that would
[01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:35.280]  be where you would go to all the paperwork and everything that the founding fathers wrote
[01:25:35.280 --> 01:25:36.760]  when they founded this country.
[01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:40.360]  Okay, wait a minute, they didn't say Magna Carta.
[01:25:40.360 --> 01:25:47.520]  They adopted the British common law and the Magna Carta was changed a number of times
[01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:53.520]  till it no longer resembled the original Magna Carta.
[01:25:53.520 --> 01:26:04.200]  So our founders adopted the existing case law from England so that they had a legal
[01:26:04.200 --> 01:26:06.960]  structure to work from and they just made changes to it.
[01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:20.480]  So I'm still not sure what the common law is other than we go to English Star Decisys.
[01:26:20.480 --> 01:26:28.720]  Where else would we find, how do we know when we're following law or not, what our founders
[01:26:28.720 --> 01:26:34.520]  thought and what they intended, you know, that's really subjective.
[01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:42.800]  Do we have anything other than, well, you just should do what's right?
[01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:46.120]  Am I misunderstanding something?
[01:26:46.120 --> 01:26:52.480]  Because that's the impression I get when people talk about what the common law is.
[01:26:52.480 --> 01:26:57.280]  God's law, common sense.
[01:26:57.280 --> 01:27:00.040]  Is there something else in August?
[01:27:00.040 --> 01:27:04.880]  Do no harm, that's the other common law thing, do no harm.
[01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:18.400]  Incredibly, incredibly simplistic, way too simplistic to be useful in this complex society.
[01:27:18.400 --> 01:27:21.280]  What constitutes harm?
[01:27:21.280 --> 01:27:23.680]  How do we define harm?
[01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:28.000]  Well that's up to the courts to decide ultimately whether it was physical or non-physical harm.
[01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:29.640]  The answer is when the courts decide.
[01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:37.080]  Yeah, do they have any guidelines in common law or does the court use his own personal
[01:27:37.080 --> 01:27:38.080]  judgment?
[01:27:38.080 --> 01:27:45.600]  Well, as long as it's not a prejudiced or biased jury or judge, then I guess.
[01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.440]  Yeah, problem, every judge and jury is biased.
[01:27:49.440 --> 01:27:51.240]  Right, right.
[01:27:51.240 --> 01:27:59.120]  Yeah, that we have to accept and that's why I like the statutory code.
[01:27:59.120 --> 01:28:07.160]  Statutory code doesn't cover everything, but it is a very stable framework.
[01:28:07.160 --> 01:28:11.400]  It gives me a statutory center.
[01:28:11.400 --> 01:28:19.160]  In the common law, in this jurisdiction, I have a judge who's a Quaker.
[01:28:19.160 --> 01:28:23.040]  In this other jurisdiction, I have a judge who's a Baptist and in this other one, I've
[01:28:23.040 --> 01:28:27.120]  got one who's Catholic.
[01:28:27.120 --> 01:28:29.160]  That could get really iffy.
[01:28:29.160 --> 01:28:38.800]  We're not even going to talk about Jews and Muslims and Buddhists, the right wing, left
[01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:42.800]  wing.
[01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:47.920]  This is a problem that I see in the common law.
[01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:59.560]  The only solution I can see is the statutory code, or did I miss something?
[01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:03.760]  Well, you know, there's a lot of people that say, but statutes don't apply to the common
[01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:04.760]  people.
[01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:06.400]  So that's a bad way of looking at it.
[01:29:06.400 --> 01:29:12.000]  Well, that gets in the whole point of view debate now, doesn't it?
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:13.000]  Wait a minute.
[01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:15.000]  What doesn't apply to the common people?
[01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:16.000]  Statutes?
[01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.000]  They don't apply.
[01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.280]  People would say, well, that's a bad way of looking at it, Randy, because the statutes
[01:29:21.280 --> 01:29:23.600]  are not applicable to the common people.
[01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:27.880]  So we should act like they don't apply while you're saying the exact opposite.
[01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.240]  So I think we found a big problem.
[01:29:30.240 --> 01:29:31.240]  Good luck.
[01:29:31.240 --> 01:29:33.500]  Good luck on that.
[01:29:33.500 --> 01:29:40.480]  So if I exit, if I'm not paying attention and you're driving along, minding your own
[01:29:40.480 --> 01:29:49.000]  business and I smash into your car and destroy it and break your legs, sorry, bubba, I didn't
[01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  mean to.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:58.800]  So, you know, I'm driving on the street just like you are, and if there's no law, then
[01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:02.600]  I feel like...
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[01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:16.520]  Yeah, and who you want to chip in, who you're taking it from, Frito or Levee?
[01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:17.520]  Who you want to chip in?
[01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:18.520]  Me no Frito or Levee.
[01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:19.520]  You can't chip in.
[01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:20.520]  All the best.
[01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:26.520]  Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, put a chip in your body.
[01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:30.520]  And anyway, you go computer reading, you can't hide me from nobody.
[01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:35.520]  When I say chip in on your mom, chip in on your daddy, chip in on your grandpa and the
[01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:41.520]  grammy, chip in on me, chip in on your baby, chip in on your family, whole family, chip
[01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:45.520]  in on your dad and the cat around me, chip in on the beef when you still got EP, chip
[01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:49.520]  in on the fish, them all in the sea, chip in on the shark and the whale around me, chip
[01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:54.520]  in on the human kind, you can't chip crazy, chip in on the king, man, they want to read
[01:33:54.520 --> 01:33:55.520]  me.
[01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:56.520]  Social security, they've got to tell me.
[01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:57.520]  Number when they give me, they rip it up to see.
[01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:58.520]  I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, chip you all the dinner time.
[01:33:58.520 --> 01:33:59.520]  Experiment on mankind.
[01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:00.520]  Okay, we are back.
[01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:01.520]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Lululala Radio.
[01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:04.520]  And we're talking to Andrew in Pennsylvania.
[01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:17.520]  Okay, Andrew, this has been something that I've wrestled with for a long time.
[01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:22.520]  And I don't feel like I'm making headway.
[01:34:22.520 --> 01:34:30.520]  So I'm trying to figure out a way to frame an understanding of common law.
[01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:41.520]  So, is it your position that the statutes don't apply unless we agree to them and enter
[01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:46.520]  into a contract to agree to the statutes and that if we don't do that, then the common
[01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:47.520]  law applies?
[01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:53.520]  Well, that's technically how it's supposed to be.
[01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:54.520]  Now, isn't it?
[01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:58.520]  That's the only answer I can give that's appropriate to that.
[01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:07.520]  Okay, if that is the case, how do I go about adjudicating an issue?
[01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:14.520]  Say I get the court to agree to adjudicate my issue under the common law.
[01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:19.520]  How do I do that?
[01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:25.520]  Well, I guess the way I would do it is, well, like I said earlier, I wouldn't actually do this.
[01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:32.520]  I guess I would ultimately resort to using the statutes for the purpose of answering your question.
[01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:36.520]  Look at what the founding fathers said about what they thought British common law was supposed to mean
[01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:40.520]  for America and use that as your version of common law.
[01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:43.520]  And that's based on the understanding that the founding fathers...
[01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:51.520]  Okay, you're getting really vague in general, and that tends to be what I get is real vague in general
[01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.520]  what the founding fathers intended.
[01:35:54.520 --> 01:36:07.520]  Well, if I use my cell phone in church when people are trying to have quiet time and I interfere with them,
[01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:12.520]  our founding fathers never did anything about cell phones.
[01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:14.520]  They had no opinion about it whatsoever.
[01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:21.520]  How do I use the common law to adjudicate an issue?
[01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:25.520]  Well, I guess the way you would do that is the founding fathers, they must have taken into account
[01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:28.520]  that things would get more advanced in the future.
[01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:32.520]  I mean, if you look at the 18 enumerated powers, there's no mention of an Air Force,
[01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:34.520]  even though they mentioned an Army, the Navy.
[01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:40.520]  So one has to realize that they would take into account the fact that things will happen in the future
[01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:46.520]  to advance like technological advances, but they still want to follow the common law ideology.
[01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:49.520]  And in regards to your specific example of the cell phone in the church,
[01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:54.520]  the speech does not give you the right to use speech in a negligent manner.
[01:36:54.520 --> 01:37:01.520]  Okay, ideology. I can't go into court with ideology
[01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:14.520]  because I've never found two people with the same concept of what the founders meant by any one particular thing.
[01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:17.520]  I really don't know how to use common law.
[01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:29.520]  If we went to common law today, I would have no idea where to start to find remedy.
[01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:32.520]  Where would I look?
[01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:35.520]  I guess I would have to resort to going to the statutes.
[01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:38.520]  And of course, Eddie Craig would say the same thing.
[01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:42.520]  He's always talking on his show about people need to be aware that statutes don't apply,
[01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:46.520]  but at the same time he uses them when he's fighting in cases.
[01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:54.520]  But I think Eddie is the kind of guy that would advocate going out in public and saying statutes do not technically apply,
[01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:57.520]  but you should still use them anyway, or something like the U.S. Constitution.
[01:37:57.520 --> 01:37:59.520]  It's technically an illegal document.
[01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:01.520]  Just read like Sanders, Booners, Brooke, no treason.
[01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:03.520]  But you still should act like it applies anyway.
[01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:06.520]  So that's the kind of guy Eddie is.
[01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:07.520]  Well, I'm kind of that way.
[01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:15.520]  If I felt like they didn't apply, I had a tape once by a really interesting guy named Jim Roan,
[01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:19.520]  and ideas to change your life from average to fortune.
[01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:21.520]  And one of them was he said,
[01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:28.520]  this big humongous thing, it rises up in the sky, hangs out a little while, and boom, crashes to the ground.
[01:38:28.520 --> 01:38:33.520]  This big humongous thing, then it rises up in the sky again, hangs out a while, boom, crashes to the ground.
[01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:41.520]  Now you might say that's a stupid idea, but first get out from under it, or you'll get smashed.
[01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:47.520]  Figure out how things work, then do them that way.
[01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:50.520]  Doesn't matter what you think about it.
[01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:53.520]  If you don't like it, you can try to change it.
[01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:58.520]  But until you get it changed, you've got to figure out how it works and do it that way.
[01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:03.520]  I guess that's my pragmatist side.
[01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:15.520]  There are so many issues within the statutory code that I don't have time to try to create a whole new code.
[01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:18.520]  And I'm certainly not capable.
[01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:22.520]  So I gave up on even trying that.
[01:39:22.520 --> 01:39:30.520]  I spent my time trying to understand how things work so that I could do them that way.
[01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:38.520]  Once we get that down, then I can look at some other options.
[01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:40.520]  Does that make sense?
[01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:45.520]  Oh yeah, definitely. Reasonable and fair enough.
[01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:47.520]  Okay, do you have anything else for us?
[01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:49.520]  Next call.
[01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:52.520]  Okay, thank you, Andrew.
[01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:59.520]  Now I'm going to go to, we don't even want to call her, so I started out to show reverence in grand juries.
[01:39:59.520 --> 01:40:13.520]  And from within the statutory framework, we really do have some incredible checks and balances.
[01:40:13.520 --> 01:40:22.520]  Those checks and balances had the effect of interfering with politicians and public officials,
[01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:26.520]  interfering with their ability to do what they wanted to, the way they wanted to.
[01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:32.520]  And I'm not sitting here saying these guys are all dirty rotten scoundrels.
[01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:36.520]  It would be easier if they were dirty rotten scoundrels.
[01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:48.520]  But when you have a full complement of right-minded people doing the best they can in the system that they have,
[01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:58.520]  without adequate checks and balances, the system is going to become a horrible mess.
[01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:09.520]  I attribute our problems in the system now to a lack of faith, not on our part, but on our public officials' part.
[01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:18.520]  You have this police officer that we put him out here on the street and we stick a pistol on his hip
[01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:24.520]  and we charge him with the duty to keep the peace.
[01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:33.520]  Each police officer we put out there will have a different perception of what is right and what is wrong.
[01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:41.520]  They'll have a different perception about what is important and what is not important.
[01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:54.520]  So we tried to pass a set of guidelines and the problem we have with these officials is they don't trust the guidelines.
[01:41:54.520 --> 01:42:01.520]  They look at this situation and think if I follow the guidelines,
[01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:13.520]  they won't lead to as effective an outcome as I could achieve by following my own personal perspective.
[01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:24.520]  So we have people, even when they're doing what they think is right and what they think is best, not following the guidelines.
[01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:33.520]  I think back on Zero Mostel in Fiddler on the Roof in that one section in the movie
[01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:37.520]  where he looks up at a Fiddler on the Roof and he says,
[01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:44.520]  without our traditions, our lives would be as shaky as a Fiddler on the Roof.
[01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:52.520]  Point being, the Jews' traditions were like our statues.
[01:42:52.520 --> 01:42:56.520]  They were prescriptions for good life.
[01:42:56.520 --> 01:43:09.520]  And the traditions for the individual did not necessarily always seem to make sense to the individual in his immediate circumstance.
[01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:21.520]  But his parents and their parents and their parents before them for the last 6,000 years of recorded history had learned some things.
[01:43:21.520 --> 01:43:28.520]  And they developed some understandings of how bad things happen.
[01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:43.520]  And they put together some prescriptions to prevent bad things from happening that results of which are not apparent from the initial perspective.
[01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:45.520]  Never speculate with your home.
[01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:49.520]  That was forbidden because it always leads to bad outcomes.
[01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:55.520]  Think of the housing mess we have now because people were convinced to speculate with their homes.
[01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:59.520]  Our statutes are similar. These are prescribed.
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[01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:26.520]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:30.520]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:46:30.520 --> 01:46:35.520]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:39.520]  Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:52.520]  We're back. I fell off the cliff there. I wasn't... I'm struggling to try to take an understanding right out of my brain and put it into words so it makes sense.
[01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:59.520]  And I kind of digress there. That discussion on common law always kind of gets me flustered.
[01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:08.520]  But I'm really talking about grand juries. Our founders really knew what they were doing when they put grand juries in place.
[01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:16.520]  That was the check we need to the balance of the abuse of official capacity.
[01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:31.520]  And we should use it even when our officials are acting in the absolute best of faith, but they step across one of our legal lines.
[01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:40.520]  We should use it the first time they scoot their toe across one of our legal lines.
[01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:47.520]  I keep thinking of Romeo and Juliet right at the end where the Duke says,
[01:47:47.520 --> 01:48:05.520]  All are punished and I, for weaking at your discords, have lost the brace of kinsmen for not putting a stop to that stuff when it wasn't a major crisis.
[01:48:05.520 --> 01:48:12.520]  He let things get out of hand. You and I, as the masters of the servants,
[01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:21.520]  when we did not stand up and rail in righteous indignation, the first time one of our public officials scooted his toes across one of our legal lines,
[01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:35.520]  we opened the door for them to scoot a little further and a little further and through a series of seemingly minor adjustments toward adjudicative expediency.
[01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:49.520]  Over time, we have allowed the criminal justice system to deteriorate to the point that we now live in the worst police state the world has ever seen and it's time to fix it.
[01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:55.520]  And the politics is in place. Everything is right. Everything is primed for us.
[01:48:55.520 --> 01:49:02.520]  And what I wanted to talk about was grand juries. I want to talk about how grand juries are impaneled in Texas.
[01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:10.520]  There's two ways. One is with a jury wheel, just like a petit jury.
[01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:18.520]  They put everybody with a driver's license or a voter's card in a pool and they draw out names from it.
[01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:29.520]  And the second one is with a, for grand juries, there's a method for, they use commissioners where the judge appoints three to five commissioners.
[01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:43.520]  The commissioners try to find people around the neighborhood, around the county that represents a cross section of the population and put their names in a hat and then they draw from those.
[01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:50.520]  I want that part done away with because it opens the door for manipulation.
[01:49:50.520 --> 01:50:00.520]  We petit juries with a jury wheel with everybody who's a registered voter, has a driver's license, her name goes in the wheel.
[01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:12.520]  And in a public, in a routine, they have a routine where the sheriff and the clerk and anybody who stands to have to come before the jury,
[01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:18.520]  they can be there and observe the drawing out of these names. So there's no stacking of the jury.
[01:50:18.520 --> 01:50:24.520]  That's one of the things we want to try to get, but that's really the cannon fodder.
[01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:30.520]  We want to give them a few things that they don't give us because you never get everything.
[01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:41.520]  The thing we really want, the thing that will change everything is the one thing that seems the most minor.
[01:50:41.520 --> 01:51:00.520]  We ask the legislature to amend article 2.10, I'm sorry, 20.10 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure where it requires the jury, the grand jury to meet.
[01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:15.520]  We add to the requirement for them to meet a requirement that they meet at least once a session or once a month to hear complaints by private citizens.
[01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:28.520]  This is the least, most miniscule change we can make that will have the effect of changing everything.
[01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:35.520]  Right now there is nothing to prevent a private citizen from presenting a complaint to a grand jury.
[01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:42.520]  Prosecutors will say only prosecutors can present a complaint to a grand jury. That is not true.
[01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:51.520]  Only a prosecutor may present a complaint to a grand jury as a matter of statutory right.
[01:51:51.520 --> 01:52:01.520]  But anybody can present a complaint to a grand jury as a matter of inalienable right
[01:52:01.520 --> 01:52:10.520]  because there's nothing in code that prevents a private citizen from giving notice to a grand jury that a crime has been committed.
[01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:16.520]  But prosecutors have been claiming that and we haven't fought it hard enough to get it broken.
[01:52:16.520 --> 01:52:25.520]  We've been on a crusade to get that fixed, but now I think we have an opportunity to walk right around that.
[01:52:25.520 --> 01:52:33.520]  With all of this public outcry against the manipulation of grand juries,
[01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:46.520]  we approach our politicians and ask them to propose a change to 20.10 and require grand juries to sit for the purpose of hearing complaints by private citizens.
[01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:55.520]  It doesn't affect the authority of the grand jury. It conflicts with no law. It doesn't cost anything.
[01:52:55.520 --> 01:53:02.520]  Those are the two things when you ask a legislator to propose legislation, he needs a white paper.
[01:53:02.520 --> 01:53:10.520]  And the white paper needs to show what's it going to cost, where are we going to get the funds for it, and how is this going to affect other law?
[01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:17.520]  Well, it's not going to affect any other law because it doesn't interfere with anybody's authority.
[01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:22.520]  And it's not going to cost you anything because you're meeting anyway.
[01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:36.520]  The least change we can make, we get that in place. Now the prosecutor can in no case tell me that if I try to give notice to a grand jury,
[01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:48.520]  he'll charge me with witness tampering or jury tampering. I've been threatened with that and I've told him, take your best shot.
[01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:58.520]  It's not, it's legal. And he actually was prosecuted once for that in Turkey County. Yeah, it happens.
[01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:06.520]  But we get this in place and that absolutely will not happen.
[01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:14.520]  Prosecutor, it will be clear that he cannot in any way interfere because the grand jury must sit for the purpose of hearing our complaints.
[01:54:14.520 --> 01:54:25.520]  Now, don't really care to have public officials indicted. I mean, that's not my purpose.
[01:54:25.520 --> 01:54:35.520]  Wouldn't hurt my feelings. I wouldn't feel bad about it. But that can't be my purpose. My purpose has to be beyond that.
[01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:45.520]  My purpose is ensuring that my public officials abide by law. You know, my grandkids, I love them dearly.
[01:54:45.520 --> 01:54:54.520]  But if one of them runs out in the road, I'm fixing Dan his hide. I do not want to spank my grandchildren.
[01:54:54.520 --> 01:54:59.520]  That's certainly not my purpose. My purpose is keeping people running out on the road.
[01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:14.520]  My purpose is not to get a public official indicted. My purpose is to give every public official out there a reason to follow law,
[01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:26.520]  whether they like it or not. If the law is not sufficient, change it. But until you change it, follow it.
[01:55:26.520 --> 01:55:35.520]  I don't care if you like it or not. When we put every public official in a position such that
[01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:45.520]  everything they do in their capacity as a public official must be filtered through the consideration.
[01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:56.520]  What would a grand jury of his peers think about what I'm about to do to him?
[01:55:56.520 --> 01:56:05.520]  Most of these problems that we're having with the police and other public officials, they will simply go away.
[01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:16.520]  Here in Travis County, in Tarrant County, been hammering on the JPs and such. And the problems that we've been having,
[01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:27.520]  we haven't even got them to the grand jury yet. But we structured what we're doing in a way that it's clear that
[01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:37.520]  we're setting them up for that purpose. They have begun to dramatically change the way they behave themselves.
[01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:43.520]  The guy I'm working with here, the judges have thrown him in jail two or three times. Every time he comes into court,
[01:56:43.520 --> 01:56:52.520]  they roll over him. Last time he went into the judge's court, the judge recused himself immediately and left the courtroom.
[01:56:52.520 --> 01:57:00.520]  Because he knew all these things that he's been doing, all these times he's acted from his own personal frustration
[01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:06.520]  and aggravation. They're all about to come back and haunt him. He sees a freight train coming at him.
[01:57:06.520 --> 01:57:16.520]  And because it's a grand jury, there is not anything he can do about it. This works.
[01:57:16.520 --> 01:57:24.520]  I went to my prosecuting attorney and he had presented a lawyer. Kid just got his bar card, had a big party on the way home.
[01:57:24.520 --> 01:57:31.520]  He gets bought for DUI. He's got a known drug dealer, one of the biggest in the county, caught him with enough to charge him
[01:57:31.520 --> 01:57:38.520]  with trafficking, gives him to the grand jury. He said he didn't want to charge this kid, but it was his job he had to.
[01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:47.520]  They indicted the lawyer, they didn't indict the drug dealer. And Greg was just distraught and he said,
[01:57:47.520 --> 01:58:00.520]  those darn grand jurors, you never know what they're going to do. And I thought I could not have heard anything better.
[01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:11.520]  If the district attorney cannot trust that the grand jury will do what he wants them to, that is exactly the kinds of grand juries
[01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:18.520]  we need to have, that will keep our public officials in line. We're on a court and we won't be having all these problems.
[01:58:18.520 --> 01:58:24.520]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Honor Radio.
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