[00:08.660 --> 00:13.700]  I'm Brian Hagin with your Liberty Beat for Monday, October 20th, 2014.
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[00:45.300 --> 00:49.740]  In the news, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism in the UK has released a report claiming that
[00:49.740 --> 00:55.640]  of all the deaths from US drone strikes in Pakistan, less than 4% were Al Qaeda terrorists.
[00:55.640 --> 01:00.040]  There are over 2,300 deaths from US drone strikes in Pakistan, with only 84 of the dead
[01:00.040 --> 01:02.280]  identified as Al Qaeda members.
[01:02.280 --> 01:06.320]  The Bureau's Name the Dead project has collected names and details of the deceased from government
[01:06.320 --> 01:11.880]  records and open source reports.
[01:11.880 --> 01:16.160]  On Thursday, Florida Supreme Court ruled that tracking a person's location using cell phone
[01:16.160 --> 01:21.320]  location data falls under the Fourth Amendment and requires a court issued warrant.
[01:21.320 --> 01:25.560]  The case involves police tracking a drug dealer using data gathered from a telecom company
[01:25.560 --> 01:26.920]  without a warrant.
[01:26.920 --> 01:30.920]  However, the ruling will likely have larger implications as it also covers the use of
[01:30.920 --> 01:34.660]  stingray cell phone surveillance tools used by law enforcement.
[01:34.660 --> 01:39.100]  The court found that cell phone users do not consent to giving up their location simply
[01:39.100 --> 01:44.160]  by possessing and using a cell phone.
[01:44.160 --> 01:48.080]  WikiLeaks has published a leaked copy of a recent draft of the controversial Trans-Pacific
[01:48.080 --> 01:50.880]  Partnership's intellectual property chapter.
[01:50.880 --> 01:56.040]  The draft is from May 2014 and covers a range of issues, including copyright term lengths,
[01:56.040 --> 01:59.400]  internet service provider liability, and enforcement measures.
[01:59.400 --> 02:04.400]  The Electronic Frontier Foundation says the TPP is the latest cycle of policy laundering
[02:04.400 --> 02:09.760]  that takes advantage of the secretive, special-interest-dominated negotiating forum of trade agreements.
[02:09.760 --> 02:14.040]  Critics fear the international agreement will supersede national law related to copyright
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[03:52.800 --> 03:59.800]  We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin'
[03:59.800 --> 04:04.800]  Whiskey boys hang up high in the street
[04:04.800 --> 04:08.800]  For all the people we see
[04:08.800 --> 04:12.800]  That justice is one thing you should always find
[04:12.800 --> 04:16.800]  You gotta saddle up your boys, you gotta draw a hard line
[04:16.800 --> 04:20.800]  When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune
[04:20.800 --> 04:24.800]  For all the people we see
[04:24.800 --> 04:28.800]  That justice is one thing you should always find
[04:28.800 --> 04:32.800]  You gotta saddle up your boys, you gotta draw a hard line
[04:32.800 --> 04:36.800]  When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune
[04:36.800 --> 04:40.800]  For all the people we see
[04:40.800 --> 04:44.800]  That justice is one thing you should always find
[04:44.800 --> 04:48.800]  You gotta saddle up your boys, you gotta draw a hard line
[04:48.800 --> 04:52.800]  Alright folks, in case you didn't pick up on it the last show I did and discussed
[04:52.800 --> 04:56.800]  the Ebola scare that's going on, take a look around
[04:56.800 --> 05:00.800]  and see if everything I said is not exactly where they're taking
[05:00.800 --> 05:04.800]  this little Ebola BS they've got spilling out everywhere
[05:04.800 --> 05:08.800]  For a disease that is supposed to be highly contagious and
[05:08.800 --> 05:12.800]  deadly, what kind of moron would go about his
[05:12.800 --> 05:16.800]  eager day of importing it by the boatloads and
[05:16.800 --> 05:20.800]  airplane loads into his own country, if that's what actually happened
[05:20.800 --> 05:24.800]  and then suddenly we have Ebola cropping up
[05:24.800 --> 05:28.800]  everywhere from subway to middle school to colleges to hospitals to
[05:28.800 --> 05:32.800]  airports to buses to planes to trains to ships
[05:32.800 --> 05:36.800]  Yeah, tell me this is not another one of those nice little staged
[05:36.800 --> 05:40.800]  events that they want so bad to get control of the population
[05:40.800 --> 05:44.800]  Folks, whatever is going around
[05:44.800 --> 05:48.800]  out there, if something actually is, I would
[05:48.800 --> 05:52.800]  bet dollars to donuts it's not Ebola, but whatever
[05:52.800 --> 05:56.800]  it is has been engineered to work very well with the vaccines they're trying to
[05:56.800 --> 06:00.800]  con you into taking, and when you do
[06:00.800 --> 06:04.800]  all they have to do later on down the road is introduce an
[06:04.800 --> 06:08.800]  aerosolized catalyst for it
[06:08.800 --> 06:12.800]  and activate it and poof, depopulation
[06:12.800 --> 06:16.800]  commences. So, just
[06:16.800 --> 06:20.800]  be aware that what's going on, this is
[06:20.800 --> 06:24.800]  ridiculous, okay? For something that is supposedly
[06:24.800 --> 06:28.800]  this bad and this deadly to be spread this far inside of our
[06:28.800 --> 06:32.800]  country, I mean, Williamson County, how in the Sam Hill
[06:32.800 --> 06:36.800]  did it get to Williamson County? Then how in the Sam Hill did it get to Travis County
[06:36.800 --> 06:40.800]  the same day?
[06:40.800 --> 06:44.800]  Okay? Because there's now a news story that there was some guy
[06:44.800 --> 06:48.800]  that was on some plane with some person that threw up and then died
[06:48.800 --> 06:52.800]  and was diagnosed with Ebola and that person somehow mysteriously wound up in Williamson County
[06:52.800 --> 06:56.800]  and then right at the same time we had one mysteriously wind up
[06:56.800 --> 07:00.800]  in Travis County. I guarantee you folks, before this is all said and done
[07:00.800 --> 07:04.800]  we will have mystery diseases popping up in every county
[07:04.800 --> 07:08.800]  trying to prompt people to rush down and get vaccinated
[07:08.800 --> 07:12.800]  against an imaginary anything
[07:12.800 --> 07:16.800]  so that now you've been specifically targeted. Don't forget how this can
[07:16.800 --> 07:20.800]  work. Not only do they get to inject you with whatever
[07:20.800 --> 07:24.800]  concoction they're wanting you to take that they can use
[07:24.800 --> 07:28.800]  against you personally later, but at the same time
[07:28.800 --> 07:32.800]  when they pull that needle out of your arm, what does it have
[07:32.800 --> 07:36.800]  on it? Your DNA. Now they
[07:36.800 --> 07:40.800]  can take whatever they injected you with and whatever catalyst activates it
[07:40.800 --> 07:44.800]  and target it specifically to the DNA of the individual
[07:44.800 --> 07:48.800]  they just injected. They can do all this
[07:48.800 --> 07:52.800]  on the fly because the injector can both inject and
[07:52.800 --> 07:56.800]  collect all in one fell motion. Put it in, pull it out
[07:56.800 --> 08:00.800]  analyze the blood that's on the needle, we're done.
[08:00.800 --> 08:04.800]  Okay? It's ridiculous
[08:04.800 --> 08:08.800]  that this could have gotten this far and this
[08:08.800 --> 08:12.800]  not be a complete and total farce and just
[08:12.800 --> 08:16.800]  a con game from the word go.
[08:16.800 --> 08:20.800]  If you still support this moron calling himself
[08:20.800 --> 08:24.800]  a president after he has knowingly and
[08:24.800 --> 08:28.800]  willingly, allegedly imported
[08:28.800 --> 08:32.800]  a deadly virus
[08:32.800 --> 08:36.800]  into this country
[08:36.800 --> 08:40.800]  and every single person that comes in contact with
[08:40.800 --> 08:44.800]  a carrier violates protocol on how to contain
[08:44.800 --> 08:48.800]  it, something is up and you
[08:48.800 --> 08:52.800]  are an idiot if you still support him.
[08:52.800 --> 08:56.800]  Just how hard a jump is that logic
[08:56.800 --> 09:00.800]  to make? Person A says
[09:00.800 --> 09:04.800]  I'm going to bring something into the country that can kill many people if it's
[09:04.800 --> 09:08.800]  not handled properly and I want everyone to believe we are
[09:08.800 --> 09:12.800]  handling it properly but every person that you see on the news and
[09:12.800 --> 09:16.800]  in photographs will be not in a protective suit
[09:16.800 --> 09:20.800]  but surrounded by people who are while they hand off a patient
[09:20.800 --> 09:24.800]  that isn't to a person that isn't
[09:24.800 --> 09:28.800]  and yet we don't expect them to become contagious.
[09:28.800 --> 09:32.800]  Are you kidding me?
[09:32.800 --> 09:36.800]  This is beyond ludicrous.
[09:36.800 --> 09:40.800]  Even in America today this is beyond ludicrous. That we would continue
[09:40.800 --> 09:44.800]  to buy into any, any concept
[09:44.800 --> 09:48.800]  that this man has a clue what the hell he's doing
[09:48.800 --> 09:52.800]  and that the people that actually control and run him
[09:52.800 --> 09:56.800]  don't have a plan for what they are doing and
[09:56.800 --> 10:00.800]  you are ignoring it or you are falling for
[10:00.800 --> 10:04.800]  it or you are supporting them in it or you are just
[10:04.800 --> 10:08.800]  oblivious to everything. All of which is bad
[10:08.800 --> 10:12.800]  for the rest of us.
[10:12.800 --> 10:16.800]  Okay and there's a lot of ways in life I don't mind
[10:16.800 --> 10:20.800]  going but at least I want to go fighting, not withering and
[10:20.800 --> 10:24.800]  bleeding from some unknown virus.
[10:24.800 --> 10:28.800]  So if it is real
[10:28.800 --> 10:32.800]  then no wonder we're all dead because it's being handled by the most incompetent
[10:32.800 --> 10:36.800]  bunch on the planet and so before we die
[10:36.800 --> 10:40.800]  once we're infected and we know we have nowhere else to go we ought to be
[10:40.800 --> 10:44.800]  snatching them out of their homes and hanging them from a tree for killing all of us
[10:44.800 --> 10:48.800]  and making darn sure they go with us.
[10:48.800 --> 10:52.800]  Because if we don't then they're going to be the only ones
[10:52.800 --> 10:56.800]  making a profit off of this while the rest of us wither and die and they get their population control
[10:56.800 --> 11:00.800]  accomplished and now they run everything else and own everything
[11:00.800 --> 11:04.800]  else and everybody works for them.
[11:04.800 --> 11:08.800]  It's just astounding to me
[11:08.800 --> 11:12.800]  that no one
[11:12.800 --> 11:16.800]  is in the media especially
[11:16.800 --> 11:20.800]  is coming up with anything other than excuses for
[11:20.800 --> 11:24.800]  how this happens and why it's happening.
[11:24.800 --> 11:28.800]  No one is criticizing Obama in the
[11:28.800 --> 11:32.800]  mainstream media for bringing an Ebola patient into the US.
[11:32.800 --> 11:36.800]  Nobody.
[11:36.800 --> 11:40.800]  And if what they are saying can actually be called criticism
[11:40.800 --> 11:44.800]  then you really don't know what criticism is believe me.
[11:44.800 --> 11:48.800]  Because if what he did was
[11:48.800 --> 11:52.800]  real that right there was grounds to impeach him
[11:52.800 --> 11:56.800]  that right there was grounds to try him for attempted murder of American
[11:56.800 --> 12:00.800]  citizens for being that stupid.
[12:00.800 --> 12:04.800]  You want somebody that incompetent being in charge of nuclear
[12:04.800 --> 12:08.800]  devices that's a good call.
[12:08.800 --> 12:12.800]  What happens now that he's trying to send armed individuals he's going to send
[12:12.800 --> 12:16.800]  men with guns to Africa to combat a virus.
[12:16.800 --> 12:20.800]  No he's not. If he sends men to Africa with guns it's gonna
[12:20.800 --> 12:24.800]  be for one purpose. Martial law militarization of
[12:24.800 --> 12:28.800]  every infected village and the slaughter of every person in it.
[12:28.800 --> 12:32.800]  It's gonna be the movie outbreak worldwide all over
[12:32.800 --> 12:36.800]  again except on a real world stage.
[12:36.800 --> 12:40.800]  And he's gonna be the guy calling the shots.
[12:40.800 --> 12:44.800]  And when he gets everybody's approval for doing it over there
[12:44.800 --> 12:48.800]  he's gonna bring it home over here. Bet on it.
[12:48.800 --> 12:52.800]  He already thinks he has the right to kill you with a drone.
[12:52.800 --> 12:56.800]  Why can't he have the right to kill you with a fuel air bomb because of an infectious
[12:56.800 --> 13:00.800]  virus even though he was the one that brought it here.
[13:00.800 --> 13:04.800]  You see people wake up.
[13:04.800 --> 13:08.800]  It's time. It's necessary.
[13:08.800 --> 13:12.800]  If you're not paying attention to what's going on out there
[13:12.800 --> 13:16.800]  you're never gonna know what hit you when it comes.
[13:16.800 --> 13:20.800]  You're never gonna know. Okay? It's just gonna be
[13:20.800 --> 13:24.800]  one of those things. Oh Uncle Hank
[13:24.800 --> 13:28.800]  he died of Ebola. He went into town and got groceries and came home infected.
[13:28.800 --> 13:32.800]  Now we gotta worry about everybody else. I wonder how he got it.
[13:32.800 --> 13:36.800]  Please don't be that stupid.
[13:36.800 --> 13:40.800]  So that
[13:40.800 --> 13:44.800]  being said whatever you've got to comment on
[13:44.800 --> 13:48.800]  it doesn't have to be this but I wanted to get that out there because this
[13:48.800 --> 13:52.800]  is ridiculous. This goes beyond ridiculous.
[13:52.800 --> 13:56.800]  That we would allow this man to even continue to act
[13:56.800 --> 14:00.800]  in the office of a president much less
[14:00.800 --> 14:04.800]  give him credit for doing anything to solve a problem that he himself
[14:04.800 --> 14:08.800]  created. I mean let's think about this.
[14:08.800 --> 14:12.800]  How badly would protocol have to have been violated
[14:12.800 --> 14:16.800]  for one person to get on an airplane and then
[14:16.800 --> 14:20.800]  infect as many people as there are now saying are infected?
[14:20.800 --> 14:24.800]  Let's just say for a moment that this came from that one person he allowed back in the
[14:24.800 --> 14:28.800]  country with Ebola. How inept
[14:28.800 --> 14:32.800]  do you have to be to allow it to get to this many people if it
[14:32.800 --> 14:36.800]  actually has in this many different places? How inept
[14:36.800 --> 14:40.800]  do you have to be to understand that infected people got on airplanes without your knowledge
[14:40.800 --> 14:44.800]  and brought it to this country? Well I'm sorry
[14:44.800 --> 14:48.800]  how inept do you have to be not to understand that that was possible especially considering
[14:48.800 --> 14:52.800]  that there was an interview done with a doctor who has
[14:52.800 --> 14:56.800]  handled Ebola epidemics in Africa and said that
[14:56.800 --> 15:00.800]  this outbreak is completely different than any
[15:00.800 --> 15:04.800]  she has ever seen. This particular
[15:04.800 --> 15:08.800]  outbreak has taken much longer for the person to show symptoms
[15:08.800 --> 15:12.800]  and then much longer after symptoms are displayed
[15:12.800 --> 15:16.800]  to actually die thus ensuring
[15:16.800 --> 15:20.800]  that it could be
[15:20.800 --> 15:24.800]  more readily carried into a larger portion of the population
[15:24.800 --> 15:28.800]  before anyone knew the person was ill.
[15:28.800 --> 15:32.800]  Now how did Ebola get from what it was
[15:32.800 --> 15:36.800]  to that point that quickly
[15:36.800 --> 15:40.800]  without a helping hand? Why does
[15:40.800 --> 15:44.800]  American CDC have patents on Ebola?
[15:44.800 --> 15:48.800]  Could it be because they're producing the strains that do this?
[15:48.800 --> 15:52.800]  Could it be because they're not only looking for
[15:52.800 --> 15:56.800]  ways to cure it but they're manufacturing ways to make it worse?
[15:56.800 --> 16:00.800]  So that when the time comes to cure it they're
[16:00.800 --> 16:04.800]  held as heroes and then they get to point up to the
[16:04.800 --> 16:08.800]  big person above them and say oh they guided us here
[16:08.800 --> 16:12.800]  they're what made it possible and thus make
[16:12.800 --> 16:16.800]  Obama and those that surround him look like they saved us rather than destroyed us.
[16:16.800 --> 16:20.800]  That's not a hard concept or
[16:20.800 --> 16:24.800]  leap to make based upon everything else this idiot has done.
[16:24.800 --> 16:28.800]  Definitely not a hard concept
[16:28.800 --> 16:32.800]  or idea considering the idiots that he has surrounded himself with and what they've
[16:32.800 --> 16:36.800]  done since they've been in office.
[16:36.800 --> 16:40.800]  Folks if you're still buying into this and you're still
[16:40.800 --> 16:44.800]  willing to let it go on I don't know what to tell you.
[16:44.800 --> 16:48.800]  But wherever you are and whatever you're thinking
[16:48.800 --> 16:52.800]  don't come looking for me because I don't want any part
[16:52.800 --> 16:56.800]  of it or you being that ignorant.
[16:56.800 --> 17:00.800]  Well folks we'll be right back.
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[19:26.800 --> 19:46.800]  All right folks we are back. This is RuleOfLawRadio.
[19:46.800 --> 19:50.800]  All right we got a couple of people up on the caller board.
[19:50.800 --> 19:54.800]  Now remember folks I am not out here trying to get on anybody's
[19:54.800 --> 19:58.800]  side side but the simple fact of the matter is
[19:58.800 --> 20:02.800]  if you are still supporting this guy you are not helping the rest of us and you are definitely not
[20:02.800 --> 20:06.800]  helping yourself and those that you care about. How you could believe you
[20:06.800 --> 20:10.800]  are I don't know. But before we start taking your calls I would like to do
[20:10.800 --> 20:14.800]  a shout out to Angel. Angel thanks for the nutrition man I appreciate it a great deal.
[20:14.800 --> 20:18.800]  He works over at Thunder Cloud and they make a great sandwich over there
[20:18.800 --> 20:22.800]  the one over here on Congress. He did a good job every time we go in there he takes good care of us.
[20:22.800 --> 20:26.800]  All right we are going to Raoul in Texas.
[20:26.800 --> 20:30.800]  Raoul or is it Raoul? Yes it's Raoul.
[20:30.800 --> 20:34.800]  Raoul okay. What you got?
[20:34.800 --> 20:38.800]  Well I was going to comment on what you were saying before about the Ebola
[20:38.800 --> 20:42.800]  and Obama and all that. Okay.
[20:42.800 --> 20:46.800]  This is my first time calling in and actually listening to the show but everything
[20:46.800 --> 20:50.800]  you were saying was right on. Basically anything that they have going on
[20:50.800 --> 20:54.800]  they are going to want to make the government bigger
[20:54.800 --> 20:58.800]  centralize it and remove any way to check it.
[20:58.800 --> 21:02.800]  So if you look at everything that has happened thus far
[21:02.800 --> 21:06.800]  that's what they do. It doesn't matter what it is
[21:06.800 --> 21:10.800]  it's some real miniscule it's still going to be
[21:10.800 --> 21:14.800]  centralize the government make it more powerful. That's just the agenda.
[21:14.800 --> 21:18.800]  Oh yeah I couldn't agree with you more. It's always about getting more power
[21:18.800 --> 21:22.800]  more control and establishing a bureaucracy to run it.
[21:22.800 --> 21:26.800]  And people don't realize that they have power in their ability to spend money
[21:26.800 --> 21:30.800]  and decide where it goes. You don't have to buy
[21:30.800 --> 21:34.800]  poison. You can buy good stuff that will sustain you.
[21:34.800 --> 21:38.800]  To fight the Ebola virus I've been told that THC and CBD
[21:38.800 --> 21:42.800]  are both very helpful in
[21:42.800 --> 21:46.800]  staving the problems with it or whatever.
[21:46.800 --> 21:50.800]  It's kind of a remedy for it. It's the antithesis of it.
[21:50.800 --> 21:54.800]  And that's why they don't want us to really have it. Well that's possible.
[21:54.800 --> 21:58.800]  I'm not a chemist or a doctor so I don't know that for sure one way or the other but
[21:58.800 --> 22:02.800]  I can say that we've got a lot more natural cures that would work
[22:02.800 --> 22:06.800]  on a lot more things but that they can't profit from
[22:06.800 --> 22:10.800]  which is why they're not allowed to be put into place.
[22:10.800 --> 22:14.800]  Exactly. The thing that I was going to call about
[22:14.800 --> 22:18.800]  was I just recently got a letter in the mail from the
[22:18.800 --> 22:22.800]  OAG. I owe like $22,000
[22:22.800 --> 22:26.800]  or something like that is what they say and
[22:26.800 --> 22:30.800]  you know I've been researching it and there's
[22:30.800 --> 22:34.800]  two there's like I'm me as a living person and then there's
[22:34.800 --> 22:38.800]  a straw man on paper. Can you clarify
[22:38.800 --> 22:42.800]  on the straw man thing? I just learned about that on the internet.
[22:42.800 --> 22:46.800]  Do you know what I'm talking about? I do know what you're talking about and I can honestly
[22:46.800 --> 22:50.800]  tell you that I am not part and parcel to the straw man argument.
[22:50.800 --> 22:54.800]  This is not about a straw man per se. This is
[22:54.800 --> 22:58.800]  about them putting you into a legal capacity that they've
[22:58.800 --> 23:02.800]  invented. It's not so much a straw man as it is
[23:02.800 --> 23:06.800]  an acting capacity. For instance
[23:06.800 --> 23:10.800]  a police officer is a legal being. He's a fiction
[23:10.800 --> 23:14.800]  until a living body assumes the authority that fiction
[23:14.800 --> 23:18.800]  possesses. Only then does it become functional.
[23:18.800 --> 23:22.800]  Right? Right. So when they call you a tax payer
[23:22.800 --> 23:26.800]  that is one of their legal capacities that they've
[23:26.800 --> 23:30.800]  invented and the first step they have to do is to get you
[23:30.800 --> 23:34.800]  to accept the role of a tax payer
[23:34.800 --> 23:38.800]  and step into that capacity so that they can come after you.
[23:38.800 --> 23:42.800]  You shouldn't do that. No you shouldn't but
[23:42.800 --> 23:46.800]  I'm just giving you an analysis of the way that I view it versus the
[23:46.800 --> 23:50.800]  straw man argument on how they view it. Now it can be in a lot
[23:50.800 --> 23:54.800]  of ways the argument between straw man and capacity is semantical
[23:54.800 --> 23:58.800]  to some degree but in other ways they're not.
[23:58.800 --> 24:02.800]  Simply because you always have the option
[24:02.800 --> 24:06.800]  of not acting in that legal capacity. You have to. You can't be
[24:06.800 --> 24:10.800]  compelled to act in it. It has to be voluntary.
[24:10.800 --> 24:14.800]  If you show up without putting in the special paperwork
[24:14.800 --> 24:18.800]  a special I can't remember what it's called and then the UCC
[24:18.800 --> 24:22.800]  dash one form where you can declare yourself a sovereign entity
[24:22.800 --> 24:26.800]  The UCC I don't know where you guys get that that does that.
[24:26.800 --> 24:30.800]  The UCC deals in commercial aspects of
[24:30.800 --> 24:34.800]  commercial entities. The only way that you can
[24:34.800 --> 24:38.800]  file UCC paperwork is to assume the capacity
[24:38.800 --> 24:42.800]  of a commercial legal entity. Which is exactly what
[24:42.800 --> 24:46.800]  you don't want to be doing.
[24:46.800 --> 24:50.800]  Yeah but I mean just from a logical standpoint this is the argument
[24:50.800 --> 24:54.800]  that a lot of the UCC folks make yet I'm sitting here asking
[24:54.800 --> 24:58.800]  why do you presume that a living man
[24:58.800 --> 25:02.800]  can or would or should file commercial
[25:02.800 --> 25:06.800]  paperwork to establish something the paperwork can't
[25:06.800 --> 25:10.800]  possibly establish.
[25:10.800 --> 25:14.800]  Because you have to assume
[25:14.800 --> 25:18.800]  the very capacity you're attempting to avoid by doing that.
[25:18.800 --> 25:22.800]  So what would I
[25:22.800 --> 25:26.800]  how would I go about making sure that I'm
[25:26.800 --> 25:30.800]  not the person like they address me in all capital
[25:30.800 --> 25:34.800]  letters or whatever and that's not me.
[25:34.800 --> 25:38.800]  That's the person in bondage.
[25:38.800 --> 25:42.800]  You're reading everything the internet has to dump.
[25:42.800 --> 25:46.800]  I can tell that by what you're asking me.
[25:46.800 --> 25:50.800]  First off you need a better understanding of what's actually
[25:50.800 --> 25:54.800]  happening. You've got a lot of theories that you've absorbed from all of this.
[25:54.800 --> 25:58.800]  But I'm going to ask you to go look up one thing
[25:58.800 --> 26:02.800]  for each of these theories and when you find
[26:02.800 --> 26:06.800]  it you let me know.
[26:06.800 --> 26:10.800]  You find where any law written
[26:10.800 --> 26:14.800]  law not somebody's theory not somebody's interpretation
[26:14.800 --> 26:18.800]  but where a written law and a judicial opinion
[26:18.800 --> 26:22.800]  of that law agree that the interpretation
[26:22.800 --> 26:26.800]  that you are adhering to has standing
[26:26.800 --> 26:30.800]  in law. Until you can
[26:30.800 --> 26:34.800]  do that it does you no good to use it.
[26:34.800 --> 26:38.800]  Okay? Therefore
[26:38.800 --> 26:42.800]  when you cannot find a basis for it that it's ever been
[26:42.800 --> 26:46.800]  recognized as such that it's ever been put forth as such
[26:46.800 --> 26:50.800]  and adhered to as such then
[26:50.800 --> 26:54.800]  obviously that theory and interpretation can't be accurate right?
[26:54.800 --> 26:58.800]  So first off you're going to have to convince
[26:58.800 --> 27:02.800]  yourself that what you do have in your head is wrong
[27:02.800 --> 27:06.800]  before you're going to be willing to listen to some things that might be right.
[27:06.800 --> 27:10.800]  Now I can't say that I've got the answers.
[27:10.800 --> 27:14.800]  I can't say that I'm smarter than everybody else. All I'm
[27:14.800 --> 27:18.800]  doing is trying to take this from a logical, analytical
[27:18.800 --> 27:22.800]  critical thinking perspective. If one and
[27:22.800 --> 27:26.800]  one must always equal two then three
[27:26.800 --> 27:30.800]  is never the right answer.
[27:34.800 --> 27:38.800]  Okay? So do your research
[27:38.800 --> 27:42.800]  when you cannot find what I'm telling you you need to find
[27:42.800 --> 27:46.800]  then I can start helping you because you'll know what you have to throw away.
[27:46.800 --> 27:50.800]  Okay. Because right now you're asking a lot of
[27:50.800 --> 27:54.800]  very broad questions that don't have any very specific
[27:54.800 --> 27:58.800]  answers. But the problem is
[27:58.800 --> 28:02.800]  is you're mixing a lot of methodologies, none of which go together
[28:02.800 --> 28:06.800]  and none of which I have found any evidence of being
[28:06.800 --> 28:10.800]  soundly grounded in law.
[28:10.800 --> 28:14.800]  So can you
[28:14.800 --> 28:18.800]  point me in the right direction? I just don't want to go to jail
[28:18.800 --> 28:22.800]  for this stupid stuff. To me it seems it's unconstitutional
[28:22.800 --> 28:26.800]  to say that I owe all this money for nothing basically.
[28:26.800 --> 28:30.800]  Well if you want to know what you can do about it
[28:30.800 --> 28:34.800]  contact a man by the name of Joseph Bannister. He is
[28:34.800 --> 28:38.800]  X-I-R-S-C-I-D. He is now in the
[28:38.800 --> 28:42.800]  Anti-Income Tax Movement. He is a CPA
[28:42.800 --> 28:46.800]  that is certified to practice before the IRS.
[28:46.800 --> 28:50.800]  They've tried to get him uncertified and kicked out numerous times
[28:50.800 --> 28:54.800]  and have failed at every turn. He's beat them back many, many
[28:54.800 --> 28:58.800]  times. So if anyone can help you as far as the actual tax
[28:58.800 --> 29:02.800]  issue, he can. As far as educating you
[29:02.800 --> 29:06.800]  well that's going to take a little bit more information that I don't have time to
[29:06.800 --> 29:10.800]  give you on air.
[29:10.800 --> 29:14.800]  Okay. I appreciate it.
[29:14.800 --> 29:18.800]  Well good luck. Thank you. You're welcome.
[29:18.800 --> 29:22.800]  Now we've got Truth Raider in Oregon. Truth Raider
[29:22.800 --> 29:26.800]  I've got about 30 seconds before I go to break so if you'll
[29:26.800 --> 29:30.800]  hang on I'll pick you up when we go to the other side here.
[29:30.800 --> 29:34.800]  Folks the call in number 512-646-1984.
[29:34.800 --> 29:38.800]  Max Dusty I see y'all there as well so
[29:38.800 --> 29:42.800]  after y'all get screened I'll pick y'all up when I'm done with Truth Raider. So everybody y'all
[29:42.800 --> 29:46.800]  hang on. Other callers get in line. We will be right back here
[29:46.800 --> 29:50.800]  very, very shortly so y'all hang in there.
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[33:24.800 --> 33:28.800]  Okay.
[33:28.800 --> 33:54.800]  Well, I need a prosecutor to come and help me.
[33:54.800 --> 33:58.800]  Okay.
[34:24.800 --> 34:32.800]  All right, folks, we are back.
[34:32.800 --> 34:36.800]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[34:36.800 --> 34:40.800]  All right, we are talking to Truth Raider.
[34:40.800 --> 34:44.800]  All right, Truth Raider, go ahead.
[34:44.800 --> 34:48.800]  Good evening, Eddie. It is the Truth Raider just letting you know that I received my nasty gram
[34:48.800 --> 34:52.800]  just three days ago. Nasty gram from?
[34:52.800 --> 34:56.800]  Department of Motor Vehicle Services.
[34:56.800 --> 35:00.800]  State of Oregon. Okay, it says,
[35:00.800 --> 35:04.800]  your driving privileges, including your right to apply in Oregon, will
[35:04.800 --> 35:08.800]  be suspended beginning on the following date
[35:08.800 --> 35:12.800]  and time for the various reasons here stated specifically below.
[35:12.800 --> 35:16.800]  Not showing proof of financial responsibility.
[35:16.800 --> 35:20.800]  And the suspension will be November 15th when it starts.
[35:20.800 --> 35:24.800]  And that is what I want to tell you. Here we go.
[35:24.800 --> 35:28.800]  Yeah, again, that case was never adjudicated, correct?
[35:28.800 --> 35:32.800]  No. And you don't know if they ever filed an actual complaint
[35:32.800 --> 35:36.800]  or if Oregon actually requires a complaint, but
[35:36.800 --> 35:40.800]  in any case, yeah, you should be able to fight it. What they
[35:40.800 --> 35:44.800]  may likely try to do is get you to request that the case be reopened
[35:44.800 --> 35:48.800]  so that they don't have to do it and they can re-establish a statute of limitations on it
[35:48.800 --> 35:52.800]  if it can be done and proceed from there.
[35:52.800 --> 35:56.800]  So be very careful what you do, but
[35:56.800 --> 36:00.800]  don't let them get away with it. Sure, sure.
[36:00.800 --> 36:04.800]  But I should, as you state a lot of times in your seminars,
[36:04.800 --> 36:08.800]  you don't really have to do that much. You just say very little,
[36:08.800 --> 36:12.800]  you shut up, and when you're done shutting up, you shut up some more and then you're done with that,
[36:12.800 --> 36:16.800]  shut up even more. That's correct.
[36:16.800 --> 36:20.800]  And make them prove to you that I am a driver
[36:20.800 --> 36:24.800]  and I'm regulated under their authority to
[36:24.800 --> 36:28.800]  perform what they want me to do.
[36:28.800 --> 36:32.800]  So I'm going to use limited traveling
[36:32.800 --> 36:36.800]  is what I'm going to do. I'm just going to engage in just the necessary traveling
[36:36.800 --> 36:40.800]  after November the 15th. And at the time I do get traffic stopped
[36:40.800 --> 36:44.800]  and just follow the script, whatever happens happens,
[36:44.800 --> 36:48.800]  I comply with the officer, whatever he does, except for not giving up my rights
[36:48.800 --> 36:52.800]  and let him do what he's going to do, and then
[36:52.800 --> 36:56.800]  if he rusts me, takes me to jail and pounds my automobile,
[36:56.800 --> 37:00.800]  at that point I get an attorney, from that point forward
[37:00.800 --> 37:04.800]  after that happens. If you get an attorney, then
[37:04.800 --> 37:08.800]  you're already gone.
[37:08.800 --> 37:12.800]  That's the part about you needing to learn the rules for yourself.
[37:12.800 --> 37:16.800]  That way if you get an attorney, you know how to control them.
[37:16.800 --> 37:20.800]  And if you don't get an attorney, then you know how to fight it yourself.
[37:20.800 --> 37:24.800]  But if you don't know how to control that attorney, you're at his mercy.
[37:24.800 --> 37:28.800]  And he doesn't care that he is supposed to be working for you,
[37:28.800 --> 37:32.800]  he doesn't work for you.
[37:32.800 --> 37:36.800]  So I should fight this pro per then?
[37:36.800 --> 37:40.800]  Well, if you are capable of doing it, yes. Hence the reason why I tell people
[37:40.800 --> 37:44.800]  look, yeah, you have a right to do this, but until you're able to take it
[37:44.800 --> 37:48.800]  to court and fight it and argue it for yourself, you're not prepared
[37:48.800 --> 37:52.800]  to exercise that right. You cannot
[37:52.800 --> 37:56.800]  go into this fight defenseless and ignorant. That's not a good combination.
[37:56.800 --> 38:00.800]  Okay, so when you start
[38:00.800 --> 38:04.800]  this fight, preparation and training had already
[38:04.800 --> 38:08.800]  been a past thing in your repertoire.
[38:08.800 --> 38:12.800]  Right. I pretty much just
[38:12.800 --> 38:16.800]  address the officer, what's the emergency?
[38:16.800 --> 38:20.800]  Pretty much and for the record, what is your name and badge number? Am I under arrest or am I free to go?
[38:20.800 --> 38:24.800]  Well, in Oregon,
[38:24.800 --> 38:28.800]  are traffic
[38:28.800 --> 38:32.800]  offenses infractions instead of crimes and are the infractions civil
[38:32.800 --> 38:36.800]  instead of criminal? I believe on this
[38:36.800 --> 38:40.800]  period, it doesn't make much mention to that, but I believe it's
[38:40.800 --> 38:44.800]  an infraction, but as far as sisters
[38:44.800 --> 38:48.800]  are trying to say that I'm going to have a suspended license, that would be a misdemeanor.
[38:48.800 --> 38:52.800]  Well, but they'll call them all kinds of things. What you need to find
[38:52.800 --> 38:56.800]  out is what the statute specifically says it is. Is it an
[38:56.800 --> 39:00.800]  infraction or is it a misdemeanor? And if it is an infraction,
[39:00.800 --> 39:04.800]  are infractions considered criminal in Oregon? They're not
[39:04.800 --> 39:08.800]  in California, they're not in Washington, they're not in New York.
[39:08.800 --> 39:12.800]  Right. So if they're not criminal,
[39:12.800 --> 39:16.800]  then what are they?
[39:16.800 --> 39:20.800]  And if they are civil
[39:20.800 --> 39:24.800]  or administrative, where was the proper due process and
[39:24.800 --> 39:28.800]  notice for you to have a hearing before they went this route of suspending
[39:28.800 --> 39:32.800]  any of this? And if the officer stopped you
[39:32.800 --> 39:36.800]  based upon an infraction, then he broke the law by
[39:36.800 --> 39:40.800]  making a false arrest and a false imprisonment and detained you for nothing
[39:40.800 --> 39:44.800]  because he can't stop you without a warrant
[39:44.800 --> 39:48.800]  for an infraction. And he can't get a warrant for an infraction
[39:48.800 --> 39:52.800]  because it's not a crime.
[39:52.800 --> 39:56.800]  So he can't swear out a warrant on probable cause, can he?
[39:56.800 --> 40:00.800]  No, I don't believe so. At the bottom of
[40:00.800 --> 40:04.800]  this form that I got has a part here
[40:04.800 --> 40:08.800]  that says legal authority. I'm not sure what that means, but it says legal authority
[40:08.800 --> 40:12.800]  says Oregon revised statutes, ORS, and it has numbers.
[40:12.800 --> 40:16.800]  A series of about six or seven different numbers. Well that's telling you what statute
[40:16.800 --> 40:20.800]  authorizes them to do what they're doing with your suspension.
[40:20.800 --> 40:24.800]  Right. But you need to go read that
[40:24.800 --> 40:28.800]  and see where it says after conviction
[40:28.800 --> 40:32.800]  Okay.
[40:40.800 --> 40:44.800]  Got anything else?
[40:44.800 --> 40:48.800]  Oh no, I was listening to what you were saying. It says after
[40:48.800 --> 40:52.800]  No, that is what I'm saying. Where the statute says that they can do what they're doing
[40:52.800 --> 40:56.800]  after conviction. No, this is before.
[40:56.800 --> 41:00.800]  This is telling me what they have the legal authority
[41:00.800 --> 41:04.800]  No, no, no. You're not following what I'm saying. They're telling you what the statute is
[41:04.800 --> 41:08.800]  that says they can do what they're doing right now. What I'm telling you is
[41:08.800 --> 41:12.800]  go read the statute and find the language in it where it says
[41:12.800 --> 41:16.800]  no they can't. Not until after a conviction.
[41:16.800 --> 41:20.800]  Okay.
[41:20.800 --> 41:24.800]  Definitely have to research this a little bit further
[41:24.800 --> 41:28.800]  because, you know, all it is is
[41:28.800 --> 41:32.800]  to say my right to travel
[41:32.800 --> 41:36.800]  Not the correct argument here.
[41:36.800 --> 41:40.800]  No. No.
[41:40.800 --> 41:44.800]  A truck driver has a right to travel. He's not being charged
[41:44.800 --> 41:48.800]  with anything relating to a right to travel. He's being charged
[41:48.800 --> 41:52.800]  with violating a commercial license agreement.
[41:52.800 --> 41:56.800]  So are you.
[41:56.800 --> 42:00.800]  So the right
[42:00.800 --> 42:04.800]  to travel is not in any way shape or form a proper
[42:04.800 --> 42:08.800]  rebuttal of the accusation.
[42:12.800 --> 42:16.800]  So what is the correct answer
[42:16.800 --> 42:20.800]  for that? What is the correct? I was not engaged in any form of
[42:20.800 --> 42:24.800]  transportation or commercial use of the highways. Okay.
[42:24.800 --> 42:28.800]  Because you can't commit an offense or an infraction
[42:28.800 --> 42:32.800]  until that has occurred. Because that's the subject matter being
[42:32.800 --> 42:36.800]  regulated by the statutes in question.
[42:36.800 --> 42:40.800]  The commercial use of the highway.
[42:40.800 --> 42:44.800]  Okay. I'm going to rephrase that and when the time comes
[42:44.800 --> 42:48.800]  if I happen to get a traffic stop, that's the correct verbiage to use.
[42:48.800 --> 42:52.800]  The correct verbiage is in the transportation practice script.
[42:52.800 --> 42:56.800]  Right.
[42:56.800 --> 43:00.800]  What I'm discussing here is if you're taking them to court.
[43:00.800 --> 43:04.800]  See we're having two different conversations here.
[43:04.800 --> 43:08.800]  Right. I'm just at the point where it all
[43:08.800 --> 43:12.800]  begins. Okay. Obviously it's already began
[43:12.800 --> 43:16.800]  or you wouldn't be holding that letter. Right.
[43:16.800 --> 43:20.800]  You had to have been a stop or a camera somewhere
[43:20.800 --> 43:24.800]  in your past. Right?
[43:24.800 --> 43:28.800]  No. I have not been traffic stopped for 15 years.
[43:28.800 --> 43:32.800]  Okay. Then where is this alleged suspension coming from and what's it based on?
[43:32.800 --> 43:36.800]  Based upon not showing them that I have proof of insurance.
[43:36.800 --> 43:40.800]  Okay. Hang on just a second here.
[43:40.800 --> 43:44.800]  Alright Max, Dusty, y'all hang in there. I'll get you back when we get done with
[43:44.800 --> 43:48.800]  Truth Grader on the other side. Alright folks, 512-646-1984.
[43:48.800 --> 43:52.800]  Give us a call, give us a holler. We will be here
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[46:50.800 --> 47:18.800]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. We are talking to Truth Raider.
[47:18.800 --> 47:22.800]  Alright Truth Raider.
[47:22.800 --> 47:26.800]  Alright Eddie, thanks again. I apologize for seeming like
[47:26.800 --> 47:30.800]  I was big in my definition of what's going on, description of what's happening.
[47:30.800 --> 47:34.800]  But it's been more than 15 years since I've even been traffic stopped.
[47:34.800 --> 47:38.800]  What they do here in Oregon is when somebody applies
[47:38.800 --> 47:42.800]  for a new license or comes in from another state because I went to California for several
[47:42.800 --> 47:46.800]  years and then came back. When they reapply,
[47:46.800 --> 47:50.800]  if you don't let them know before you have left in the
[47:50.800 --> 47:54.800]  first place, they go ahead and let the license run out and say
[47:54.800 --> 47:58.800]  that you let your license run out so your license was suspended
[47:58.800 --> 48:02.800]  or something like that. So that's apparently what happened before
[48:02.800 --> 48:06.800]  2011 when I came back to Oregon and I had to pay a fee
[48:06.800 --> 48:10.800]  to reinstate my license because they said that
[48:10.800 --> 48:14.800]  my license was suspended for
[48:14.800 --> 48:18.800]  just not applying or renewing the license, which seemed really ridiculous to me.
[48:18.800 --> 48:22.800]  But I didn't understand all of these things that
[48:22.800 --> 48:26.800]  your instruction, your programs, your seminars, and your show explains.
[48:26.800 --> 48:30.800]  So I paid the fee then and then shortly thereafter within a few months
[48:30.800 --> 48:34.800]  they do these random checks where they go about and they pick a number
[48:34.800 --> 48:38.800]  like a lottery system type of thing and if your number comes up they want you to
[48:38.800 --> 48:42.800]  just show proof that you do have financial responsibility without anything
[48:42.800 --> 48:46.800]  happening. So that's how it started with me.
[48:46.800 --> 48:50.800]  Having to shop around for insurance and insurance is twice as much
[48:50.800 --> 48:54.800]  as what I was paying in California. I was paying like $30 to $40
[48:54.800 --> 48:58.800]  for just simple basic liability prior
[48:58.800 --> 49:02.800]  to that. When I came to Oregon it was like $110 to $120 for
[49:02.800 --> 49:06.800]  liability and then you have to carry uninsured motors,
[49:06.800 --> 49:10.800]  insurance protection as well. That's really ridiculous.
[49:10.800 --> 49:14.800]  It's too expensive. So I got some insurance for a little while because I had to
[49:14.800 --> 49:18.800]  because they were going to suspend it. This was like two and a half years ago. They were going to suspend it then
[49:18.800 --> 49:22.800]  but I didn't know about all what you're teaching, this truth
[49:22.800 --> 49:26.800]  that you're bringing out to us now. So what happened was
[49:26.800 --> 49:30.800]  they required me to file an SR-22, which I think
[49:30.800 --> 49:34.800]  that's ridiculous. That's for people who've committed certain types of violations,
[49:34.800 --> 49:38.800]  misdemeanor behind the wheel violations like being drunk
[49:38.800 --> 49:42.800]  while on the road or running into somebody or hit and run
[49:42.800 --> 49:46.800]  or things of that nature.
[49:46.800 --> 49:50.800]  I let my insurers, I cancelled my insurance
[49:50.800 --> 49:54.800]  in August and it takes about 60 days for them to discover it.
[49:54.800 --> 49:58.800]  Insurance company, whatever reports it from that SR-22 requirement
[49:58.800 --> 50:02.800]  filing and then contacts me to say why did I drop my insurance and you will
[50:02.800 --> 50:06.800]  be suspended in 30 days if you don't renew it as a threat.
[50:06.800 --> 50:10.800]  That's where I'm at right now.
[50:10.800 --> 50:14.800]  Okay.
[50:14.800 --> 50:18.800]  So they're suspending your license because you cancelled
[50:18.800 --> 50:22.800]  your insurance? Yes.
[50:22.800 --> 50:26.800]  So what exactly is your
[50:26.800 --> 50:30.800]  plan here?
[50:30.800 --> 50:34.800]  Well, I plan on trying to use the
[50:34.800 --> 50:38.800]  transportation script to the best of my ability.
[50:38.800 --> 50:42.800]  When that time, if it does, which is kind of a slim chance
[50:42.800 --> 50:46.800]  if I do get pulled over
[50:46.800 --> 50:50.800]  in the near future after this suspension begins.
[50:50.800 --> 50:54.800]  Okay.
[50:54.800 --> 50:58.800]  So that's step one. What are you going to do with the other 30?
[50:58.800 --> 51:02.800]  Well,
[51:02.800 --> 51:06.800]  I'm just going to let the chips fall where they may I guess. Well, they're going to
[51:06.800 --> 51:10.800]  fall all over you is where they're going to fall if you don't know how to
[51:10.800 --> 51:14.800]  catch them. Right.
[51:14.800 --> 51:18.800]  Well, you know they're going to do what
[51:18.800 --> 51:22.800]  they're going to do. They're going to use this color of law.
[51:22.800 --> 51:26.800]  Okay. Alright.
[51:26.800 --> 51:30.800]  I can see how this argument is going to go and I'm going to tell you right now
[51:30.800 --> 51:34.800]  don't do what you're planning on doing. You're not prepared to do this.
[51:34.800 --> 51:38.800]  Okay. The fact that you're sitting here telling me what you're
[51:38.800 --> 51:42.800]  telling me makes it very clear to me that you do not have
[51:42.800 --> 51:46.800]  any idea how to fight this fight when they come knocking on your door and
[51:46.800 --> 51:50.800]  they will eventually come knocking on your door. How long that
[51:50.800 --> 51:54.800]  will be I can't say. How much you can learn between when it starts and when
[51:54.800 --> 51:58.800]  it stops I can't say. But until you've done that I can
[51:58.800 --> 52:02.800]  tell you you're picking a fight with a boxing champion and you've never even
[52:02.800 --> 52:06.800]  trained to get in the ring. Right.
[52:06.800 --> 52:10.800]  But in order for me to do anything and have
[52:10.800 --> 52:14.800]  a case I have to suffer. Why do you want to have a case until you
[52:14.800 --> 52:18.800]  learn how to fight the dang thing? Why do you
[52:18.800 --> 52:22.800]  want to go play a game where you are definitely going to lose
[52:22.800 --> 52:26.800]  without first bothering to learn the rules of the game so you might stand
[52:26.800 --> 52:30.800]  a chance? I've been studying some of it
[52:30.800 --> 52:34.800]  I just haven't had the time
[52:34.800 --> 52:38.800]  to sit down and study it thoroughly but at this point I'm definitely
[52:38.800 --> 52:42.800]  going to be doing that. I plan on hitting the books on this so to speak
[52:42.800 --> 52:46.800]  and learning how to do this. Well like I say I
[52:46.800 --> 52:50.800]  can't tell anyone what to do and I don't want to tell anyone what to do.
[52:50.800 --> 52:54.800]  But if you are not already prepared to
[52:54.800 --> 52:58.800]  have this fight, now is not the time
[52:58.800 --> 53:02.800]  to pick it. Okay. I
[53:02.800 --> 53:06.800]  spent 18 years preparing for this fight
[53:06.800 --> 53:10.800]  before I decided to take it on because I
[53:10.800 --> 53:14.800]  didn't want to get caught flat-footed in a corner with no idea how to get out of
[53:14.800 --> 53:18.800]  it. I bided my time until the
[53:18.800 --> 53:22.800]  fight was ready for me to step in the ring and stand a chance
[53:22.800 --> 53:26.800]  of winning. So if you
[53:26.800 --> 53:30.800]  think you're going to learn this in a few hours or a few days or a few weeks
[53:30.800 --> 53:34.800]  and learn it well, well more power to you.
[53:34.800 --> 53:38.800]  You're a lot smarter and quicker at it than me then.
[53:38.800 --> 53:42.800]  And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. If you are, great.
[53:42.800 --> 53:46.800]  I'll be calling you in a month.
[53:46.800 --> 53:50.800]  Well the premise is supposed to be simple isn't it?
[53:50.800 --> 53:54.800]  I mean this is unjust, it's unconstitutional and it's against our God.
[53:54.800 --> 53:58.800]  No. No. You are incorrect on a couple of points. The first
[53:58.800 --> 54:02.800]  is it's not unconstitutional in the way that you
[54:02.800 --> 54:06.800]  are meaning it. It is constitutional.
[54:06.800 --> 54:10.800]  It's just being unconstitutionally applied. There is a
[54:10.800 --> 54:14.800]  difference. Right. Okay.
[54:14.800 --> 54:18.800]  That's problem number one. You didn't recognize or understand
[54:18.800 --> 54:22.800]  that there is a difference. Okay.
[54:22.800 --> 54:26.800]  That's what I mean about not being fully prepared.
[54:26.800 --> 54:30.800]  If you think you're going through this without getting into a legal
[54:30.800 --> 54:34.800]  terminology fight, you're mistaken. And if you don't understand
[54:34.800 --> 54:38.800]  the legal terminology, it's a foreign language to you.
[54:38.800 --> 54:42.800]  How do you expect to make that argument
[54:42.800 --> 54:46.800]  in a language you don't know?
[54:46.800 --> 54:50.800]  Well that's true but
[54:50.800 --> 54:54.800]  what I'm understanding is since I'm not
[54:54.800 --> 54:58.800]  they can't prove that I am a driver being paid to be
[54:58.800 --> 55:02.800]  on the road and they can't prove it to you in court
[55:02.800 --> 55:06.800]  Okay. How are they going to have to prove it?
[55:06.800 --> 55:10.800]  Let's just take a minute here and run through this as
[55:10.800 --> 55:14.800]  an actual scenario. How do they have to prove that you're a driver?
[55:14.800 --> 55:18.800]  By showing me the statutes
[55:18.800 --> 55:22.800]  that says anybody that's in their automobile, whatever. They don't have to show
[55:22.800 --> 55:26.800]  the statute to prove that you're a driver.
[55:26.800 --> 55:30.800]  Where did you get the idea they had to do that? Well you'd mentioned
[55:30.800 --> 55:34.800]  that you don't go in and defend yourself by
[55:34.800 --> 55:38.800]  trying to teach them that you're not a driver but you have to have them prove
[55:38.800 --> 55:42.800]  to you that you are not a driver.
[55:42.800 --> 55:46.800]  No. You have to get them to
[55:46.800 --> 55:50.800]  try to prove that you are.
[55:50.800 --> 55:54.800]  Yeah, that's what I mean. Okay.
[55:54.800 --> 55:58.800]  So how are they going to do that?
[56:02.800 --> 56:06.800]  I'm wondering how can they do this if somebody challenges this?
[56:06.800 --> 56:10.800]  Show me the law. Okay. Fine. Then let's reverse the question for a minute.
[56:10.800 --> 56:14.800]  How do you intend to challenge their assertion
[56:14.800 --> 56:18.800]  that you're a driver? Well I wanted to ask
[56:18.800 --> 56:22.800]  somebody at the DMV. It was just an idea and I'm sure it's ill-advised
[56:22.800 --> 56:26.800]  that you would even recommend that but I wanted to contact
[56:26.800 --> 56:30.800]  them and ask them how can you show me where in your laws
[56:30.800 --> 56:34.800]  that I am a driver before this suspension even happens?
[56:34.800 --> 56:38.800]  And what good is it going to do for you to ask
[56:38.800 --> 56:42.800]  some person in the DMV that question? When it comes to going
[56:42.800 --> 56:46.800]  to court, how does that question to that DMV employee help you?
[56:46.800 --> 56:50.800]  Well I want to contact the
[56:50.800 --> 56:54.800]  administrators, the ones that are at the top, that write these laws.
[56:54.800 --> 56:58.800]  They don't write them. The legislature writes them.
[56:58.800 --> 57:02.800]  Well the legislature votes to approve them. The
[57:02.800 --> 57:06.800]  agency generally writes the statutes on top of the underlying law
[57:06.800 --> 57:10.800]  but you're still kind of missing the point here. Okay.
[57:10.800 --> 57:14.800]  How do you intend to use whatever information you
[57:14.800 --> 57:18.800]  get from them to help you in court?
[57:18.800 --> 57:22.800]  Well, they can't show me anything.
[57:22.800 --> 57:26.800]  Who can't? I'm sure all their definitions are going to be applied
[57:26.800 --> 57:30.800]  to those who are drivers, who are engaged in commerce. Okay, you're
[57:30.800 --> 57:34.800]  still going right back to the beginning of the argument again without
[57:34.800 --> 57:38.800]  answering my question. How are you going
[57:38.800 --> 57:42.800]  to use whatever information you get from the
[57:42.800 --> 57:46.800]  DMV, whether it be the lowly employee or the head of the
[57:46.800 --> 57:50.800]  agency, and use it to help you in court?
[57:50.800 --> 57:54.800]  Well, what they base these laws from, they use
[57:54.800 --> 57:58.800]  and I'm sure they twist the terminology in the Black's Law Dictionary.
[57:58.800 --> 58:02.800]  Okay. Alright, I'm going to tell you this one more time,
[58:02.800 --> 58:06.800]  Rader. Don't start this fight
[58:06.800 --> 58:10.800]  right now. You're not prepared for this.
[58:10.800 --> 58:14.800]  And I'm not trying to be insulting you
[58:14.800 --> 58:18.800]  but you don't have a clue what I'm asking you and where I'm trying to go with this.
[58:18.800 --> 58:22.800]  That's a sure dead sign you're not going to be able to handle what they
[58:22.800 --> 58:26.800]  throw at you in court because you don't know how to respond to it. That's going to
[58:26.800 --> 58:30.800]  do nothing but create a problem for you. You follow?
[58:30.800 --> 58:34.800]  Right. Okay. So real quick on the other side, I'm going to give you
[58:34.800 --> 58:38.800]  a real short, sweet lesson on how this is going to be detrimental
[58:38.800 --> 58:42.800]  if you follow up on it without proper study. Alright folks, we're going to the top
[58:42.800 --> 59:06.800]  of the hour break. Y'all hang in there. We will be right back.
[59:12.800 --> 59:16.800]  We'll be right back.
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[01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.800]  On Thursday, Florida
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[01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:30.800]  Alright folks, we are back.
[01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:34.800]  This is Rule of Law Radio. I'm going to wrap this up with Truth Raider so I can get on with these
[01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:38.800]  other callers. Alright Raider, here we go.
[01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:42.800]  What three things must an officer get
[01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:46.800]  during his so-called investigation? He needs to get at least
[01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.800]  one of them in order to prove his case.
[01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.800]  What are they?
[01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:58.800]  No.
[01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:02.800]  That's a confession from you that you're engaged in the activity the license relates to.
[01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.800]  So that's a confession.
[01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:10.800]  But what three things would constitute
[01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:14.800]  actual evidence other than a confession from you by
[01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:18.800]  production that you're engaged in transportation?
[01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:22.800]  This is frustrating.
[01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.800]  Acknowledgement of why he's stopping me.
[01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:30.800]  Nope. Understanding why he stopped me. Nope.
[01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.800]  The
[01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:42.800]  three things. Officer, during your alleged investigation, did
[01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:46.800]  you obtain, discover, or otherwise receive from me a bill of lading?
[01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:50.800]  Officer, during your alleged investigation, did you obtain,
[01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:54.800]  discover, or otherwise receive from me a passenger manifest?
[01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:58.800]  Officer, during your alleged investigation, did you obtain, discover, or
[01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:02.800]  otherwise receive from me a commercial log book?
[01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.800]  Either of those three things constitutes actual
[01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:10.800]  evidence of commercial activity. Everything else is an
[01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:14.800]  admission or confession of commercial activity by production.
[01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.800]  Alright.
[01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:22.800]  That's why knowing what not to do at the stop is the first
[01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:26.800]  and most important step to establish how you're going to defend the case at
[01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.800]  trial. However, if you do produce
[01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:34.800]  any of the accouterments of transportation and commercial use of the highways during the
[01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:38.800]  stop, guess what you have to do now?
[01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:42.800]  You have to fight on their terms. You have to fight on merits.
[01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:46.800]  Which means now you have to know the actual statutes and
[01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.800]  everything they're required to prove and how they're required to prove it.
[01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:54.800]  Therefore, you have to know how to use
[01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.800]  both sides of the same sword.
[01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:02.800]  Okay, three pieces of proving commercial activity
[01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:06.800]  and then the statutes I need to know. No.
[01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:10.800]  They're two different defenses and you cannot mix them.
[01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:14.800]  One is not engaged in transportation or any
[01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.800]  other commercial use of the highway and the other is fighting on
[01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:22.800]  the merits of the accusation itself. You cannot
[01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.800]  mix these defenses. They are oil and water. They are
[01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:30.800]  fire and gunpowder. Don't put them together.
[01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.800]  Okay, so just do one? Yeah, and which one
[01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:42.800]  you have to do is determine by what you do or do not do
[01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:46.800]  at the initial stop.
[01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.800]  Okay.
[01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:54.800]  Other than that, in your videos that you say
[01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:58.800]  very little, just certain things what the officer
[01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.800]  named for the record and his badge number, and that you say I'm not
[01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:06.800]  engaged in transportation. I don't know which video you're referring to, but the
[01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:10.800]  two and a half hour one on Infowars tells you a whole
[01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:14.800]  lot more than that as far as the things that you want to get onto the record.
[01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:18.800]  The other one is the most simple basic thing to do
[01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:22.800]  until you learn what your rights are and how to invoke
[01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:26.800]  them, but you actually want to do a little bit more than that to make
[01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:30.800]  the record on how you're protecting your rights and why, so that the
[01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.800]  courts can't rule against you later. That's what the transportation
[01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:38.800]  script tries to teach you.
[01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:46.800]  Okay, so it is complicated.
[01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.800]  It's a lot more complicated than it sounds, and the reason is
[01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:54.800]  they've designed it that way. So you have to know
[01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.800]  how to play that game and play it well, and when you don't, you
[01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:02.800]  get beat up. Financially
[01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.800]  and through frustration and everything else.
[01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:10.800]  Okay, but that is by design.
[01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:14.800]  So if you want to take this fight, go ahead, but I'm telling
[01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:18.800]  you right now, my opinion is you're not prepared enough to do this yet.
[01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:26.800]  Alright, I'll watch the video some more.
[01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.800]  Watch it more and more again. Well, go to the link it tells you to and download
[01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:34.800]  the script if you don't have it. Pay close attention to the script.
[01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:38.800]  Okay, will do, but then in the meantime
[01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:42.800]  just go along with it and just...
[01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.800]  Well, in the meantime, if you're not prepared to have this fight, what are you going to have to do?
[01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:50.800]  Yeah, acquiesce and purchase auto insurance.
[01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:54.800]  There you go. There you go.
[01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:58.800]  It's amazing, they call it auto insurance, but it's a vehicle. That doesn't make any sense to me.
[01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:02.800]  Well, that's because they're actually two different things. An automobile
[01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:06.800]  has all the same accoutrements as a motor vehicle, but the use
[01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:10.800]  determines which one it actually is under the circumstances
[01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.800]  then existing.
[01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:18.800]  Alright, I'll
[01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:22.800]  study some more on it and if I don't feel that I'm ready to fight the fight
[01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:26.800]  after November the 15th, then I'll just go ahead and for the interim
[01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.800]  purchase more insurance and work on it some more.
[01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.800]  Alright, sounds like a plan. You have a good night. Alright, Eddie.
[01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:38.800]  Thanks a bunch. You're welcome. Bye-bye.
[01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:42.800]  Alright, now we're going to go to Max in Texas. Max, what can we do
[01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:46.800]  for you? Well, I'm Mr. Eddie Craig.
[01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.800]  The pleasure is all mine. Yes, sir, what can we do for you?
[01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:54.800]  Yes, sir, I was curious
[01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:58.800]  about the Texas Administrative Code Title 37, that Rule
[01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:02.800]  4.13. When it refers to
[01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.800]  Chapter 644 in there,
[01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:10.800]  is it referring to the Chapter 644 in its entirety because
[01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:14.800]  it's not further qualified? No, it's
[01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:18.800]  talking specifically about the type of vehicles that are covered by Chapter 644
[01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:22.800]  and what are they? Yeah, commercial
[01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:26.800]  motor vehicles. There you go. I'm just going to, there's
[01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.800]  a section in there, a subsection of 644
[01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.800]  and it's 102, Section 102 Municipal and County Enforcement
[01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:38.800]  requirements. Right. And it says, A,
[01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.800]  the department by rule should establish... Ah, who is defined
[01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:46.800]  as the department? I know, Eddie.
[01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:50.800]  I know, and so they're referring to Rule 4.13 then.
[01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:54.800]  When they say that? No, no, no, no. Please tell the people
[01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:58.800]  that are listening in that statute who is defined as
[01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.800]  the department. The Texas Department
[01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:06.800]  of Public Safety. Of Public Safety, and therefore
[01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.800]  that does not automatically include the county sheriffs and
[01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:14.800]  deputies, the constables, or municipal cops.
[01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.800]  It only includes Department of Public Safety personnel.
[01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:22.800]  Well, this is a
[01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.800]  specific subsection of 644 that addresses municipal and county
[01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:30.800]  enforcement requirements. Right. And when I say
[01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:34.800]  that it says that the department shall establish
[01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:38.800]  uniform standards, by rule establish uniform standards,
[01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.800]  they're referring back to... That is correct. 644
[01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:46.800]  refers back to Rule 4.13.
[01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:50.800]  Okay, okay. So, let me see.
[01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.800]  Sticking with Chapter 644, on the 644-102,
[01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:58.800]  which again was municipal and county enforcement requirements,
[01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.800]  and A of that subsection is the department by rule
[01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.800]  shall establish uniform standards. We've already established that Rule 4.13.
[01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.800]  There's a G all the way down at the
[01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:14.800]  bottom that says the department shall revoke or
[01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:18.800]  rescind the certifications of any peace officer who fails to comply
[01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:22.800]  with any standard established under subsection A.
[01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:26.800]  Correct. Rule 4.13. So, have you
[01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:30.800]  ever heard of any case of a municipal or any other
[01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:34.800]  peace officer having their certification revoked or rescinded under
[01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.800]  4... In Texas, there's only 63 of them that have it.
[01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:42.800]  And I doubt if any of them are actually making any traffic stops.
[01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.800]  Me too. And I'm wondering if any of them have ever had it
[01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:50.800]  rescinded. That I don't know. You'd have to do a public
[01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:54.800]  records request with the Department of Public Safety and find out if that's ever
[01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:58.800]  happened or not. Yeah, nothing on the case law.
[01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:02.800]  Searching the case law for that subsection, nothing. So, I'm thinking
[01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:06.800]  probably not. Well, again, there doesn't have to be case
[01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:10.800]  law on it for it to have been something that could be rescinded.
[01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:14.800]  I mean, the DPS could have rescinded someone's certification
[01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.800]  for non-compliance administratively. They wouldn't have to have a case about it.
[01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.800]  So, you would have to do a public information request or FOIA
[01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:26.800]  the agency... Yeah, do a Texas public open records request
[01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:30.800]  to the Department of Public Safety requesting the names
[01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.800]  and employment location of any and all
[01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:38.800]  individuals that have ever had their certifications revoked pursuant
[01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:42.800]  to Rule 44.102 or Rule 4.13
[01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:46.800]  Texas Administrative Code.
[01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:50.800]  I love it. Okay. One other thing, Eddie, before I let you go.
[01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:54.800]  The other day I called and talked to Randy and it was
[01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:58.800]  regarding a provision in the Texas Government Code Chapter 311
[01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:02.800]  and it was Section
[01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.800]  0.15 which is the
[01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:10.800]  definition section and at the very bottom there's a definite
[01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:14.800]  and it's the only one that's not in alphabetical order. There's a definition
[01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:18.800]  for include and including and it makes the
[01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:22.800]  distinction saying that includes and including is inclusive
[01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:26.800]  and not exclusive, kind of contrary to the
[01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:30.800]  exclusio alter. I actually know it's not. It goes
[01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:34.800]  hand in hand with it. Expansive simply means that they
[01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:38.800]  can use anything of similar type.
[01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:42.800]  For instance, if the statute says includes lemons,
[01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:46.800]  oranges, and grapefruits, how can that be
[01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:50.800]  expansive beyond those? How can that rule be used?
[01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:54.800]  Well, if you read the ending of it, it says
[01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:58.800]  it's not to be construed as if something is missing in the
[01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:02.800]  list, that it's not included. It kind of usurps the
[01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:06.800]  The courts say that is incorrect. The courts
[01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.800]  say very clearly that the statute can't be overbroad that
[01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:14.800]  way. The statute can only list like things.
[01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:18.800]  So if it says oranges, lemons, and grapefruits,
[01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:22.800]  then that means it can include other
[01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:26.800]  citrus fruits, but it can't include bananas and apples.
[01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:30.800]  That's the rule. So that's
[01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.800]  the only way that it can be considered expansive.
[01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.800]  You can't add something to it that is not of a like thing.
[01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:42.800]  Okay. I just
[01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:46.800]  wanted to ask your opinion on that. Like I said, I read that definition
[01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.800]  and I was like, hey, that's not right. They can't just usurp
[01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:54.800]  the definition of includes and including and then make it completely
[01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:58.800]  overly expansive all the way to everything that the code
[01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:02.800]  Constructionary Act covers, that doesn't seem right.
[01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:06.800]  Well, you'd be surprised what they can try to do.
[01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.800]  Well, I wonder, how would someone go about
[01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:14.800]  putting that in a legal brief or something?
[01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:18.800]  Do you suppose there's any case law on that little doozy?
[01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.800]  I don't know. I haven't looked at that. There is for
[01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:26.800]  includes and including, most certainly. There's tons of case law on how to use
[01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.800]  includes and those two rules of statutory construction.
[01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:34.800]  Yeah. Hang on just a second, Max.
[01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:38.800]  We'll finish this on the other side, okay?
[01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:42.800]  Dusty, Larry, I see both of you there. Y'all hang on. We'll get to you on the other side of the break.
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[01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:42.800]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rules Law Radio
[01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:46.800]  and we're currently talking to Max in Texas. Alright Max,
[01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.800]  just to give you something else on this, let's take for instance the definition
[01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:54.800]  of the term person that's also in chapter 311 of the government code
[01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:58.800]  and is used throughout the statutes, right? Now the courts
[01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:02.800]  are continuously trying to say that the term individual
[01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:06.800]  when used in statutes means exactly the same thing as it does in the penal
[01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:10.800]  code unless the statute defines it differently. Well they try
[01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:14.800]  to say the same thing in relation to person, but they have a problem. They don't bother
[01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:18.800]  to read the Texas legislative drafting manual. So let me read you a
[01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:22.800]  paragraph out of the 2014 version which has been
[01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:26.800]  edited from the 2008 version which actually contains
[01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:30.800]  even further clarification here in addition to what we're about
[01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:34.800]  to hear. But when you look on page 14 of the legislative
[01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:38.800]  drafting manual for 2014 subsection H, person
[01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:42.800]  this is how this paragraph reads
[01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:46.800]  It is often desirable to define person broadly such as
[01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:50.800]  an individual, corporation, or association. Although
[01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:54.800]  this violates the rule against giving a word an artificial meaning
[01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:58.800]  the advantage of avoiding unnecessary repetition and the long
[01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:02.800]  standing practice of so defining this word outweigh the
[01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:06.800]  policy behind the rule. Section 1.07 of the
[01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:10.800]  penal code defines person in this way and as already noted
[01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:14.800]  penal code definitions also apply to penal laws outside the code.
[01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:18.800]  While it is legally unnecessary to
[01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:22.800]  redefine person in a penal law outside of the code except
[01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:26.800]  to provide a different definition, the
[01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.800]  express adoption of that definition, see the following subsection,
[01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:34.800]  may be helpful to alert users of the statutes who may
[01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:38.800]  be unaware of the general application of the penal code definitions.
[01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:42.800]  Now here is the kicker. The definition
[01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:46.800]  of person in section 311.005
[01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:50.800]  government code applies to those codes
[01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:54.800]  which the code construction act applies and that do not
[01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:58.800]  otherwise define the term. Now look
[01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.800]  at the very beginning of every single one of the codes
[01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:06.800]  that we have and see if
[01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:10.800]  the code construction act is not mentioned
[01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.800]  as being applicable to that code. In the code of
[01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:18.800]  criminal procedure the only time that it doesn't have that is
[01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:22.800]  in title 1. It is in title
[01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:26.800]  2. So the term person applies
[01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:30.800]  in title 2 as defined in 311.005
[01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:34.800]  government code and there is no question
[01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:38.800]  that 311.005 government code is
[01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:42.800]  100% legal entity
[01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:46.800]  i.e. commercial.
[01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.800]  Understood.
[01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:54.800]  I mistited it. I said 311.015
[01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:58.800]  I was wrong. It was 005 just like you said.
[01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:02.800]  Now if you look at that section of code, like I said
[01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:06.800]  the only one that is out of alphabetical order is includes and including.
[01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:10.800]  They define that in 13.
[01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:14.800]  You will notice that every definition above it uses the words includes
[01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:18.800]  in its definition. Is the significance of them
[01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:22.800]  putting it at the bottom before they use the word
[01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:26.800]  that is extremely significant here. Now if you will look you will
[01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:30.800]  probably find that that section has been amended several times
[01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:34.800]  and when the case law came out defining the rules of statutory
[01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:38.800]  construction that definition usage of includes was put in there
[01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:42.800]  to try to circumvent the way the definition
[01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:46.800]  rules of statutory construction were forcing the direction of the statutes.
[01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.800]  Well they can't circumvent it. But because
[01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:54.800]  of the fact that they define it at the very bottom
[01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:58.800]  you know and before you ever get to the definition of person
[01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:02.800]  you know so I mean it clearly doesn't affect
[01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:06.800]  the definition of person when it says and its limited scope
[01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:10.800]  in the use of the words includes and included. Well it does
[01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.800]  again its placement is not relevant in that regard.
[01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:18.800]  They simply put it on the end because it didn't exist in the original
[01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:22.800]  numbering scheme. So rather than renumber everything else
[01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:26.800]  they simply put it at the bottom. That's one potential possibility.
[01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.800]  But you will never win the argument that because it came
[01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:34.800]  after these definitions that that does not hold true for
[01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:38.800]  those definitions. Yes not so much
[01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:42.800]  trying to understand. Yeah I'm just
[01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:46.800]  making people aware of that. You're not going to win that argument.
[01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:50.800]  They're going to argue it applies and I would tend to agree with it. But what you
[01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:54.800]  have to understand is what those other definitions
[01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:58.800]  actually say that actually help you prove
[01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:02.800]  the true nature of the rest of the codes statutes.
[01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:06.800]  Okay Eddie one more thing. Let me read out here
[01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:10.800]  that the actual definition of includes and including on item 13
[01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.800]  the very last one of that general definition section.
[01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.800]  Includes and including are terms of enlargement and
[01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:22.800]  not of limitation or exclusive enumeration and use
[01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:26.800]  of the terms does not create a presumption that components not
[01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.800]  expressed are excluded. Right and that is exactly why the
[01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:34.800]  court said that can't be done. That would mean that they could come along
[01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:38.800]  and rewrite the law to it to encompass anything they
[01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:42.800]  want anytime they want without any legislative
[01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:46.800]  action whatsoever. Darn right so how do we argue
[01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:50.800]  that that's repugnant to law? It's not repugnant to law as
[01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:54.800]  long as the rules of statutory interpretation are applied. It is
[01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:58.800]  repugnant if they wish to argue that the rules of statutory interpretation
[01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:02.800]  cannot be applied. Now you can say
[01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:06.800]  oh great well then it's vague and overbroad and totally ambiguous. Therefore
[01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:10.800]  it's unconstitutional on those grounds. They don't want to have to play that game.
[01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:14.800]  Okay. So as long as you can assert
[01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:18.800]  that that's what the argument is going to wind up being odds are they'll have to
[01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:22.800]  back off on refusing to allow statutory interpretation rules to be
[01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:26.800]  applicable. Oh I don't think they'll ever go to this stuff.
[01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.800]  I was just curious because when I ran across it you know like what the significance
[01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:34.800]  was there. Yeah well it's always good to do a what if on other
[01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:38.800]  arguments. Try to head off every exit that they could head
[01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.800]  for and take to try to trap you into something else. That's a good
[01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:46.800]  idea and a good practice. It's what I try to get everybody to do.
[01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:50.800]  Okay Eddie well I'll let you get to other callers brother.
[01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:54.800]  Alright Max thanks for calling in. Alright good night. Good night.
[01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:58.800]  Alright now we're going to go to Dusty in Texas. Dusty what can we do for you?
[01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:02.800]  Yes I was wondering if you could tell me I was there
[01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:06.800]  this weekend and you had said something
[01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:10.800]  about doing a void judgment and I've looked through your whole
[01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:14.800]  folder and I don't see one and I was wondering if you could tell me where I could
[01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:18.800]  find one for this traffic case.
[01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:22.800]  You may have to look up for a template for one online
[01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:26.800]  somewhere for Texas. I can try to help you research that and find
[01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.800]  one but everything in the seminar material
[01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.800]  there are so many different things that can be written. I may not have a piece of paper
[01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:38.800]  in there for every possibility. Generally what you want to do is adapt
[01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:42.800]  one of the motions that already exist into the one that
[01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:46.800]  you need because all of the motions that we have do have certain
[01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:50.800]  criteria that they all contain or we want them all to contain
[01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:54.800]  and generally it's just the body of the motion that you want to edit and convert
[01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:58.800]  the title into what you need it to be. So we can look up
[01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:02.800]  and see if we can find a motion to void judgment but basically
[01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:06.800]  a void judgment is simply going to do the same thing that a motion for new trial
[01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:10.800]  does. It states the reason why the ruling of the court
[01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:14.800]  and the finding of the jury if there was one does not comply with
[01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:18.800]  law and why the judgment should be declared void
[01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:22.800]  and then it's filed with a higher court above that one
[01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:26.800]  where the trial was held in order to get the verdict overturned
[01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:30.800]  and that can be done either on the appeals level or it can be done
[01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:34.800]  outside of appeal if the issue is lack of jurisdiction. In which case
[01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:38.800]  I believe you're going to have a lack of jurisdiction issue.
[01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:42.800]  Right. So I'd have to
[01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:46.800]  argue does not comply with law and then the lack of jurisdiction. Well you're going to
[01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.800]  assert every single thing that you would in a motion for new trial.
[01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:54.800]  It's going to be all the same stuff. All of these are grounds for this motion
[01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:58.800]  or this judgment to be declared void.
[01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:02.800]  Okay. Sounds good. Okay. On the other issue
[01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:06.800]  with the land situation, do you think that you're
[01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:10.800]  going to have any time, I have a time limit
[01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:14.800]  they've got it scheduled for November 10th
[01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:18.800]  so I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row before them.
[01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:22.800]  Okay. So what is the question?
[01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:26.800]  I just needed to know if you had a time to take a look at that.
[01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:30.800]  I'm still reading through it and looking up some of the information you've got in there for your
[01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:34.800]  research. I'm trying to go through some of what you sent me yesterday.
[01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:38.800]  Okay. Okay. But I will get back
[01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:42.800]  to you as quick as I can. Okay. Thank you. Alright. You're welcome.
[01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:46.800]  Anything else? No. I'm fine. Alright.
[01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:50.800]  Thanks for calling in. Alright, folks. This is Rule of Law Radio. We've got a half
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[01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:38.800]  going to be talking to Larry in Arizona. Larry, what can we do for you?
[01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:42.800]  Good evening, Eddie. I have a tax
[01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:46.800]  question for you. Okay, what kind of tax?
[01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:50.800]  Property tax. Okay. Within the Arizona
[01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:54.800]  Constitution, they talk about how they're going to tax
[01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:58.800]  and it says it will be done within the
[01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:02.800]  territorial limits of the authority levying the tax.
[01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:06.800]  How do I research what the meaning
[01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:10.800]  of territorial limits is? Well, who does
[01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:14.800]  the taxing of the property in question where you are?
[01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:18.800]  The county. Okay. The territorial limits then would be
[01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:22.800]  of that county.
[01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:26.800]  Okay, but does the territorial limits mean the boundaries
[01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:30.800]  with everything? Yeah, also known in law and description
[01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:34.800]  as inside the external boundaries
[01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:38.800]  of. Okay,
[01:34:38.800 --> 01:34:42.800]  it wouldn't be like federal territorial limits. That limits
[01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:46.800]  to Washington D.C. and to
[01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:50.800]  Puerto Rico and things like that and military. No,
[01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:54.800]  not the same thing. Okay, totally different. Yes.
[01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:58.800]  Okay, and then the other quick question I have for you.
[01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:02.800]  Okay, if we're traveling and we don't have a driver's
[01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:06.800]  license, is there any company you're aware of
[01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:10.800]  that will sell insurance to someone without a driver's license?
[01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:14.800]  I don't know of any insurance company that requires you to have a license to sell you
[01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:18.800]  insurance.
[01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:22.800]  Really? At least my agent tells me I can't get
[01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:26.800]  insurance without a license. That's not true. That's
[01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:30.800]  absolutely not true. Anyone can pay for the insurance. It doesn't have to be somebody that's
[01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:34.800]  actually in a car or with a license. Anyone can pay for the insurance.
[01:35:34.800 --> 01:35:38.800]  Okay, I haven't pushed the issue
[01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:42.800]  yet, so I will research that.
[01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:46.800]  Yeah, I mean the car doesn't even have to be registered to get insurance
[01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:50.800]  because you can't register the car until you have insurance, right?
[01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:54.800]  Yes, I mean my registration elapsed years ago
[01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:58.800]  and nobody's questioned that. Right, but I mean it's
[01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:02.800]  more or less a similar argument is what I'm getting at. Yes, okay.
[01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:06.800]  Now, the insurance company
[01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:10.800]  may not pay off if you're in the car
[01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:14.800]  and have an accident and don't have a license, but that's completely different
[01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:18.800]  from establishing a contract for the coverage.
[01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:22.800]  No one has to have a license to get insurance coverage
[01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:26.800]  on a car because they may be getting it for someone
[01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:30.800]  else.
[01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:34.800]  Like mom and dad may have bought a car in their kid's name,
[01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:38.800]  their kid has their own license, but mom and dad's paying the insurance bill. The
[01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:42.800]  insurance is in mom and dad's name and the kid is listed
[01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:46.800]  as a driver on the policy, but everything
[01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:50.800]  else is in the kid's name. Mom and dad can still pay
[01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:54.800]  for that. They don't have to have a license for that car that the kid drives to be insured
[01:36:54.800 --> 01:36:58.800]  and they pay for it. No, but in that case, though, the insured
[01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:02.800]  has a license. But that's not the one who got
[01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:06.800]  the coverage, which is what you said your agent told you was required.
[01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:10.800]  Okay, but if I want to be the
[01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:14.800]  insured, I'll have to do some asking him some questions.
[01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:18.800]  Well, again, if their contract specifically does not allow them to
[01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:22.800]  back out because you're not licensed, well,
[01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:26.800]  then they can't make that claim and prevail because it's not part of the contractual
[01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:30.800]  obligation. But if it is, well, that's a whole new problem.
[01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:34.800]  Okay.
[01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:38.800]  Okay, well I appreciate the information.
[01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:42.800]  Okay, thank you. Okay, you have a good one.
[01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:46.800]  All right, now
[01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:50.800]  we're going to go to Allen in Texas. Allen, what can we do for you?
[01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:54.800]  Yes, how are you today? I'm good. You?
[01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:58.800]  Yes, sir. Well, I could be better. I've been
[01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:02.800]  looking for an attorney. I got a, back on September 4th,
[01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:06.800]  I got, like 8 o'clock that
[01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:10.800]  morning, the city cop. I'm from a little bitty town, Strong, Texas.
[01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:14.800]  And it's a population of 600 people with a little city marshal. He come by
[01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:18.800]  and he told me that my horse was out. So I got in my
[01:38:18.800 --> 01:38:22.800]  truck and I buy and sell trucks and kind of trade and
[01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:26.800]  do work, you know, buy junkers and fix them up.
[01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:30.800]  I didn't have registration. My driver's license expired
[01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:34.800]  I think back in 2005. You know, I've just kind of been getting around pretty lucky, I guess.
[01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:38.800]  But I've heard that you don't have to have
[01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:42.800]  no insurance, no driver's license and all that stuff, you know, and I'm a firm believer
[01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:46.800]  in kind of exercising it, you know, but I didn't really
[01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:50.800]  know exactly where to look for all the information. Anyways, he followed
[01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:54.800]  me in my old truck to go pin my horse up and
[01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:58.800]  I told him I'm leaving town. I mean, I got the closest hardware store
[01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:02.800]  30 miles down the road. I went to get some wire and stuff and
[01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:06.800]  well, he knew that he watched me leave town. He watched me drive with no driver's license
[01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:10.800]  with no registration on the window or nothing.
[01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:14.800]  Well, I pulled back into town at 1130 at lunch
[01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:18.800]  and there was about a half a block from my house, there was a drug
[01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:22.800]  task force, there was the city marshal, county cops.
[01:39:22.800 --> 01:39:26.800]  They just turned their lights on like there was a convoy kind of in the line, you know,
[01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:30.800]  and I just pulled in my driveway. Well, they jumped out with their
[01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:34.800]  guns, hollering, they were going to shoot my dog and I mean just all kinds of crazy stuff
[01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:38.800]  and I was like, can I help you all, you know? And he said,
[01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:42.800]  I don't know your dog, he threatened me. He said, the reason I pulled
[01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:46.800]  you over is for no registration. I was like, okay. I said,
[01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:50.800]  you normally do all this for, you know, guns drawn and hollering,
[01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:54.800]  six cops, six powers and I don't know how many cops there was.
[01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:58.800]  And he said, he said, he was going to shoot my dog and I told him
[01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:02.800]  to go ahead. I said, I guess if you feel threatened, sure. I said, I don't know what to tell you.
[01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:06.800]  And anyways, I dialed my attorney at the time.
[01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:10.800]  He's a real good friend of mine. He's a former judge in Eastland County
[01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:14.800]  and I had him on speakerphone and I sat there, I was like,
[01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:18.800]  I explained to him the situation real fast. Well, they was hollering, hang up the phone,
[01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:22.800]  hang up the phone. And they slapped it out of my hand
[01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:26.800]  and they all jumped on me and handcuffed me.
[01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:30.800]  No warrant, no nothing. I mean, this is all he said. I heard you was a drug dealer.
[01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:34.800]  I said, well, I apologize. I said, I heard you was one.
[01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:38.800]  I said, but they don't make it true, you know. Anyways, they took me to
[01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:42.800]  jail for expired driver's license, expired registration,
[01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:46.800]  or whatever, financial responsibility,
[01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:50.800]  whatever you call it, and no insurance.
[01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:54.800]  And there was four railroad spots in the back of my truck from
[01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:58.800]  hell, I bought a bunch of railroad, old junk iron from the railroad
[01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:02.800]  place down the road here about two years ago
[01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:06.800]  and I have a receipt for that. But they charged me with theft under 50
[01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:10.800]  for the four railroad spikes. And anyway,
[01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:14.800]  when I got out, they took me to jail and I got out.
[01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:18.800]  They charged you for theft of the railroad spikes? Yes.
[01:41:18.800 --> 01:41:22.800]  On what evidence? Who complained that they had
[01:41:22.800 --> 01:41:26.800]  spikes stolen and that the ones found in your truck were the spikes that were allegedly
[01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:30.800]  stolen? That's what he was
[01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:34.800]  assuming. Right, that's exactly what he was doing.
[01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:38.800]  He said I was not allowed to have them because they were railroad property.
[01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:42.800]  Okay, well, that's baloney. They leave them in the Dablam railroad ties
[01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:46.800]  all the time and they sell those to the public.
[01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:50.800]  Yes, sir. So, this cop
[01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:54.800]  Yeah, well, this cop's already in trouble, so go ahead.
[01:41:54.800 --> 01:41:58.800]  Yeah, when I got out of jail, you know, they just
[01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:02.800]  dropped me off over there, didn't book me in or nothing. He just put me in a salad pot with the jailer and took off.
[01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:06.800]  Well, the guy was nice enough to put me in the
[01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:10.800]  cell with the phone and I called my lawyer and he arranged for me to get out.
[01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:14.800]  But when I got home, I was going through my
[01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:18.800]  surveillance camera, you know, looking at the recordings
[01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:22.800]  at 8.30 when I left town
[01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:26.800]  I guess it was about 10 o'clock, 9.30, there was a task force, the county
[01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:30.800]  cops, the city cops, there was cops all over my house and they knew I was not
[01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:34.800]  here. They was in my shop, they was all up
[01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:38.800]  I mean, for about 30-45 minutes they was here looking around. So, where's the warrant?
[01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:42.800]  There is not one. Exactly, and now you've got
[01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:46.800]  them all on camera illegally searching your
[01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:50.800]  property. Well, then they realized that there was security cameras
[01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:54.800]  after they had been here for about 30 minutes, so the lead task force
[01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:58.800]  guy, there was one on top of my shop, an overview of the whole place
[01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:02.800]  well, he goes and he touches the wires on the cameras, the ones that he sees.
[01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:06.800]  Okay, so now he's tampering with the evidence, there's another
[01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:10.800]  felony. Right, but the question is, I mean, I cannot
[01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:14.800]  find, I was called the ACLU and
[01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:18.800]  I think, yeah, yeah, ACLU and I was called about 8 different
[01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:22.800]  attorneys and I can't, they all kind of sounded excited right at first
[01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:26.800]  until I tell them it's Palapinta County. Well, then they don't want
[01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:30.800]  to, it's like they all back out, I can't find nobody to take my case and I was going to see
[01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:34.800]  I just happened to run on years, I've been looking since before.
[01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:38.800]  Okay, well hang on just a second Allen, we've got to take a break but I'll
[01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:42.800]  pick you up when we get back, okay? Okay, thank you sir.
[01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:46.800]  Alright, hang on just a minute. Alright, we're coming into the last segment
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[01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:28.800]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio
[01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:32.800]  and we are talking with Allen in Texas. Alright Allen, go ahead.
[01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:36.800]  Yes sir.
[01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:40.800]  The thing is, I was going to represent myself and I'm thinking
[01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:44.800]  I've seen a few of your, I've been watching your little videos and stuff and I believe
[01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:48.800]  that I'm qualified now to represent myself.
[01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:52.800]  I didn't, it was actually, I want to give you thanks. It was pretty helpful.
[01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:56.800]  I couldn't understand how to find it at first, the definitions where they
[01:46:56.800 --> 01:47:00.800]  changed it back and forth, you know, on the vehicles, the motor vehicles and stuff like
[01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:04.800]  that. Right. But what the main question was
[01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:08.800]  I think I can handle that part of my defense, but I was wanting to know
[01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:12.800]  if I might need some help. I want to sue these people, I mean because
[01:47:12.800 --> 01:47:16.800]  I've never had a drug charge. Well you don't have, you don't have just a
[01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:20.800]  suit against them. You've got criminal complaints against them. They've committed
[01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:24.800]  multiple felonies against you. You can actually file
[01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:28.800]  criminal charges against every one of those cops.
[01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:32.800]  You've got the video evidence to back it up and I'm going to tell you something
[01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:36.800]  right now. Make as many copies and distribute them out as many
[01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:40.800]  places as you possibly can.
[01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:44.800]  Okay. Don't keep the only source of the video
[01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:48.800]  in your possession without pack ups.
[01:47:48.800 --> 01:47:52.800]  Yeah, I've got some back ups, but how they doing? They're coming right
[01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:56.800]  from a DVR I guess. Well DVR is recoverable.
[01:47:56.800 --> 01:48:00.800]  Any good computer technician can recover what's on that DVR drive. It's a computer.
[01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:04.800]  It's that simple. Okay, because I don't solve your computer stuff at all
[01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:08.800]  hardly, but yeah, that's good to know. Yeah, so make sure you
[01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:12.800]  unplug that DVR. Don't override it if they deleted anything
[01:48:12.800 --> 01:48:16.800]  on it, because that's tampering with evidence right there. The moment
[01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:20.800]  they touched that DVR and cut those wires to the camera, they were tampering
[01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:24.800]  with evidence. That again is a felony in Texas.
[01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:28.800]  Right, and that's good. I mean, because he said
[01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:32.800]  it was a false, I guess, he had a neighbor
[01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:36.800]  anonymous complaint. Right, they always have an anonymous complaint.
[01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:40.800]  It's how they justify the crap they pull
[01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:44.800]  when they actually don't have any justification for the crap they pull.
[01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:48.800]  Right, and I heard you
[01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:52.800]  from Austin, Texas, is that right? I'm not from Austin, but I'm in Austin.
[01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:56.800]  Okay, in Austin. I didn't know if
[01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:00.800]  there was somebody around that area, because this county
[01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:04.800]  I don't know how to explain it. Well, if by somebody you
[01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:08.800]  mean an attorney. It's corrupted all the way to the top.
[01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:12.800]  If I went and filed a complaint, they would arrest me for something, I'm sure.
[01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:16.800]  Since the day I got arrested, I've got them on my video
[01:49:16.800 --> 01:49:20.800]  of my home surveillance up at my house like five different times harassing
[01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:24.800]  me, you know what I mean? Right. Well, what you need to do first is contact the
[01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:28.800]  DOJ in Washington. Go to the Department of Justice
[01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:32.800]  website and file a complaint there, and they will
[01:49:32.800 --> 01:49:36.800]  get in touch with you. And you can tell them all of the
[01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:40.800]  stuff that you've told me. And
[01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:44.800]  fortunately, they tend to do something about it
[01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:48.800]  to some degree in some places. I can't guarantee whether they will or they won't.
[01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:52.800]  But on the criminal side, they would go after them if
[01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:56.800]  they can. Now, they may not go after them for the most serious stuff that
[01:49:56.800 --> 01:50:00.800]  they would have, but they've definitely got serious charges that can be
[01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.800]  levied against them, the cops that is. So, start with
[01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:08.800]  the Department of Justice and file a criminal complaint there, contact the
[01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:12.800]  FBI, and contact the United States Attorney in your
[01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:16.800]  area. And tell them you wish to file criminal
[01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:20.800]  complaints directly with them in relation to what happened.
[01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:24.800]  And also that you have video evidence that has been erased, but
[01:50:24.800 --> 01:50:28.800]  you intend to have it recovered. The reason you need to unplug...
[01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:32.800]  I still have some of it. I had most of it. I mean, I got them cut into
[01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:36.800]  wires. Okay. Well, you need as much of it showing they were
[01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:40.800]  actually searching your property as possible. You especially need any of it
[01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:44.800]  that was showing that if any of your cameras were still working
[01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:48.800]  when they came at you with their weapons pointed at you.
[01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:52.800]  Because that was excessive force. That was abuse of official capacity.
[01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:56.800]  That was official oppression. That was official misconduct. That was
[01:50:56.800 --> 01:51:00.800]  aggravated assault. That was aggravated kidnapping.
[01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:04.800]  And then they towed my truck out of my driveway
[01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:08.800]  40 miles down the road. And that's armed robbery.
[01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:12.800]  And okay, like that truck, it didn't have
[01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:16.800]  no registration at the time. And I still don't have a driver's license, though.
[01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:20.800]  I refuse to get one because I'm a traveler, you know.
[01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:24.800]  Right. But a friend
[01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:28.800]  of mine borrowed my truck and she got pulled over and they give her
[01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:32.800]  no insurance, no registration, and all this stuff. Well,
[01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:36.800]  I went and got the, I let her go get the register.
[01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:40.800]  She said she'd pay for it and she went and got the truck registered so she could get out of her
[01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:44.800]  all her tickets because she, is that going to affect me?
[01:51:44.800 --> 01:51:48.800]  In my case? Well,
[01:51:48.800 --> 01:51:52.800]  as far as what they did, no. Okay.
[01:51:52.800 --> 01:51:56.800]  But now, was, how soon
[01:51:56.800 --> 01:52:00.800]  after this event occurred was it registered?
[01:52:00.800 --> 01:52:04.800]  Probably through, probably close to three weeks.
[01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:08.800]  Okay. Did they send you, when did they
[01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:12.800]  tell you you had to appear in court? Well, see, I haven't
[01:52:12.800 --> 01:52:16.800]  because I pled not guilty.
[01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:20.800]  They're supposed to be contacting me whenever I go to court because
[01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:24.800]  I pled not guilty on all four counts. The payoffs under $50, then no insurance, no
[01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:28.800]  driver's license, and no registration. Okay, but you haven't been
[01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:32.800]  to court on it yet. No, I haven't, but my friend, she
[01:52:32.800 --> 01:52:36.800]  when she borrowed my truck, the state was going to give her like $500. No, no, no, I got all that.
[01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:40.800]  I'm just saying that you haven't been to court for all of the things they
[01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:44.800]  charged you with, and in the meantime, it has been registered
[01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:48.800]  and everything else, right?
[01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:52.800]  Well, it's been, yes, it's been registered and registered. Okay, so at least as far
[01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:56.800]  as the registration and stuff like that goes, and you couldn't have got the
[01:52:56.800 --> 01:53:00.800]  registration without some form of insurance, so somewhere there will be an
[01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:04.800]  insurance card, so that's two of the charges that you could get
[01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:08.800]  wiped out if they've made those charges. The no driver's license is something you
[01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:12.800]  still have to fight if they charged you with that, but everything else
[01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:16.800]  inspection, registration, and insurance should be covered by what your friend went and did
[01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:20.800]  with the truck. Okay, but I'm under the impression, I mean, if
[01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:24.800]  I'm just, if I'm not driving for commerce, I'm not... Well, again, you have to decide
[01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:28.800]  because you're not going to be able to mix the defenses. If you go in and
[01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:32.800]  provide all of this to get these
[01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:36.800]  other charges dropped, then you're stuck with a merits defense on the license.
[01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:44.800]  Now, believe it or not, you can win a merits defense on the license
[01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:48.800]  if you argue it properly, because it is actually the way
[01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:52.800]  the statute is written, it is impossible for
[01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:56.800]  anyone permanently domiciled in Texas to
[01:53:56.800 --> 01:54:00.800]  comply with 521.025,
[01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:04.800]  which is what they're charging you under.
[01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:08.800]  Okay? It is statutorily impossible
[01:54:08.800 --> 01:54:12.800]  for anybody permanently domiciled in Texas
[01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:16.800]  to comply with the statute, and the reason for that
[01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:20.800]  is how driver's license is defined in the statute
[01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:24.800]  under 521.021, or I'm
[01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:28.800]  sorry, where it says that license has to be issued under 021.
[01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:32.800]  In the definition of driver's license, it only defines three things as a driver's
[01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:36.800]  license. An occupational license, a temporary
[01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:40.800]  license, and a learner's permit. All of those
[01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:44.800]  are replacements for some other kind of license
[01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:48.800]  that is neither defined nor discussed
[01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:52.800]  in the statutes as they exist.
[01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:56.800]  So there is actually a way to win
[01:54:56.800 --> 01:55:00.800]  a merits argument if you know the argument regarding
[01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:04.800]  driver's licenses. Because
[01:55:04.800 --> 01:55:08.800]  originally in Texas there were three. Operators, commercial operators,
[01:55:08.800 --> 01:55:12.800]  and chauffeurs. None of those are currently written
[01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:16.800]  into the statutes as they exist. Those terms and license
[01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:20.800]  types do not exist anywhere in the transportation code
[01:55:20.800 --> 01:55:24.800]  anymore. And every
[01:55:24.800 --> 01:55:28.800]  license according to 521.021
[01:55:28.800 --> 01:55:32.800]  must be issued under chapter 521.
[01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:36.800]  That includes the commercial driver's license, which again
[01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:40.800]  has to be one of the things that is defined under driver's license, which
[01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:44.800]  again only applies to people that are not permanently domiciled
[01:55:44.800 --> 01:55:48.800]  in Texas or that have been convicted of a DUI and
[01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:52.800]  lost whatever other kind of license they allegedly are supposed
[01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:56.800]  to have that the statute doesn't discuss or define.
[01:55:56.800 --> 01:56:00.800]  See, it's a very convoluted thing and it's going to be very
[01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:04.800]  hard for them to prove that they can win because the statute doesn't
[01:56:04.800 --> 01:56:08.800]  let them win.
[01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:12.800]  So it would be better for me not to present the insurance
[01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:16.800]  in the registration. If you're going to argue not in transportation
[01:56:16.800 --> 01:56:20.800]  yes, but if you're simply going to argue against the charges you can
[01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:24.800]  get those three dropped and then go on a merits charge
[01:56:24.800 --> 01:56:28.800]  defense against the charge of no driver's license.
[01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:32.800]  So I would like to just argue that no transportation, I mean I was just
[01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:36.800]  traveling. Yeah, well the thing is if you're going to do that you're going to face
[01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:40.800]  all four charges. If they've made all four charges.
[01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:44.800]  Yeah, I mean
[01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:48.800]  I'd just be a few dollars if I don't, but if I do
[01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:52.800]  I think I can open a few people's eyes is what I'm hoping.
[01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:56.800]  If you are prepared to have that fight, as I was discussing with
[01:56:56.800 --> 01:57:00.800]  one of my earlier callers, if you don't know exactly
[01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:04.800]  how to make that argument however, you're not even going to make a record
[01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:08.800]  that will allow you to win it on appeal. And that is what you're going to have
[01:57:08.800 --> 01:57:12.800]  to do because you will not win it at trial. If you win one of these at trial
[01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:16.800]  it will be by sheer dumb luck because
[01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:20.800]  you will never get to produce the evidence at trial and they will never acknowledge
[01:57:20.800 --> 01:57:24.800]  the evidence at trial that you were not engaged in transportation.
[01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:28.800]  That's an argument that has to be made
[01:57:28.800 --> 01:57:32.800]  and put in the record for the appellate court to address.
[01:57:32.800 --> 01:57:36.800]  What would I have to do to get the dash cam? Because I mean on the dash cam
[01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:40.800]  you're going to have to file, cover yourself in two ways, file a public
[01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:44.800]  information request under 525
[01:57:44.800 --> 01:57:48.800]  or 540, well it's in the government
[01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:52.800]  code, the open records act, and then also file
[01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:56.800]  what's known as a Brady motion for discovery, which is give me everything
[01:57:56.800 --> 01:58:00.800]  and the kitchen sink.
[01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:04.800]  Your attorney friend can probably help you out with that, just ask him to help you get a Brady
[01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:08.800]  motion together for all of it, okay?
[01:58:08.800 --> 01:58:16.800]  Well hey, get him, both of you give me a call,
[01:58:16.800 --> 01:58:20.800]  send me an email with some contact information and set up a time
[01:58:20.800 --> 01:58:24.800]  when we can discuss this and let me talk to him directly and see if I can
[01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:28.800]  open his eyes a little bit.
[01:58:28.800 --> 01:58:32.800]  Alright, yes sir, you have a great night, thanks for calling.
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