[00:00.000 --> 00:08.200] This is the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty News and activist updates, online [00:08.200 --> 00:10.000] at thelibertybeat.com. [00:10.000 --> 00:14.920] I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Monday, October 13, 2014. [00:14.920 --> 00:23.080] Gold is trading around $1,223, silver around $17.34 and Bitcoin is trading around $374.25. [00:23.080 --> 00:29.560] Today's Bitcoin price brought to you by Expresscoin, the fastest, most reliable way to buy [00:29.560 --> 00:33.400] Bitcoin today at Expresscoin.com. [00:33.400 --> 00:38.480] Support for Liberty Beat comes from Be The Media, a workshop, mini-conference and a party [00:38.480 --> 00:43.440] exploring alternative media and celebrating the launch of the Liberty Beat GCN partnership. [00:43.440 --> 00:47.840] It happened Saturday, October 25 at Brave New Books in Austin, Texas. [00:47.840 --> 00:50.320] Be The Media and Change The World. [00:50.320 --> 00:55.200] In the news, over the weekend, St. Louis protestors and police clashed as 17 people were arrested [00:55.200 --> 00:59.640] Sunday for refusing to disperse from a sit-in outside of a convenience store. [00:59.640 --> 01:04.200] St. Louis police don military-style riot gear throughout the weekend as thousands of individuals [01:04.200 --> 01:07.600] marched through the streets of Ferguson and nearby Shaw. [01:07.600 --> 01:12.520] Last Wednesday, Shaw was the site of another fatal shooting by an off-duty police officer. [01:12.520 --> 01:16.400] Activists attempted to stage a sit-in outside of a clicker of store in Shaw. [01:16.400 --> 01:19.920] Online video shows the police violently shutting the protest down. [01:19.920 --> 01:23.920] Journalist Lou Grudowski with We Are Change and Cassandra Fairbanks of the Free Thought [01:23.920 --> 01:30.160] Project were pepper sprayed while filming the scene. [01:30.160 --> 01:34.440] Early Monday morning, police in Hong Kong began removing barricades placed by protestors [01:34.440 --> 01:37.560] who have occupied parts of the city for the last two weeks. [01:37.560 --> 01:41.840] Reuters reported that student protestors continued to face off with police at the main protest [01:41.840 --> 01:45.000] site near government buildings downtown. [01:45.000 --> 01:51.960] Protestors are seen wearing masks in anticipation of police use of tear gas. [01:51.960 --> 01:56.000] Pretty Deadly Ebola virus has been contracted by someone inside the United States for the [01:56.000 --> 01:57.000] first time. [01:57.000 --> 02:01.120] A nurse who had worn protective gear during her extensive contact at a Dallas hospital [02:01.120 --> 02:06.080] with an Ebola patient who died tested positive during a preliminary blood test according [02:06.080 --> 02:07.920] to officials on Sunday. [02:07.920 --> 02:12.280] The woman had on a gown, gloves, mask and a shield during her multiple visits with Thomas [02:12.280 --> 02:17.000] Eric Duncan, but there was a breach in protocol according to the health officials. [02:17.000 --> 02:21.280] Support for Deliberty Beat comes from the Michael Cargill for Austin City Council District [02:21.280 --> 02:22.760] 1 campaign. [02:22.760 --> 02:25.360] Michael Cargill will get the cars moving. [02:25.360 --> 02:29.320] Political advertisement paid for by the Michael Cargill for Austin City Council District [02:29.320 --> 02:31.160] 1 campaign. [02:31.160 --> 02:36.200] Support for Deliberty Beat also comes from Cabo Bobs, Southwestern style burritos. [02:36.200 --> 02:42.840] Now with two locations in Austin, 500 East Benwhite Boulevard and 2828 Rio Grande Boulevard. [02:42.840 --> 02:46.280] Find them online at CaboBobs.com. [02:46.280 --> 02:51.080] This is the Liberty Beat for Monday, October 13, 2014. [02:51.080 --> 02:57.040] Check out the website at TheLibertyBeat.com and like us on Facebook at Facebook.com The [02:57.040 --> 02:58.080] Liberty Beat. [02:58.080 --> 03:24.080] Really, man, come on, six o'clock, news is somebody been shot, somebody's been viewed, [03:24.080 --> 03:31.080] somebody blew up a building, somebody stole a car, somebody got away, somebody didn't [03:31.080 --> 03:40.080] get too far, yeah, they didn't get too far. [03:40.080 --> 04:05.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [04:05.080 --> 04:06.080] that he'd done. [04:06.080 --> 04:13.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [04:13.080 --> 04:14.080] that he'd done. [04:14.080 --> 04:21.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [04:21.080 --> 04:22.080] that he'd done. [04:22.080 --> 04:38.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [04:38.080 --> 04:39.080] that he'd done. [04:39.080 --> 04:50.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [04:50.080 --> 04:51.080] that he'd done. [04:51.080 --> 05:01.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [05:01.080 --> 05:02.080] that he'd done. [05:02.080 --> 05:11.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [05:11.080 --> 05:12.080] that he'd done. [05:12.080 --> 05:22.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [05:22.080 --> 05:23.080] that he'd done. [05:23.080 --> 05:33.080] They stole my pathway back in my day, son, like when a man had to answer for the wicked [05:33.080 --> 05:34.080] that he'd done. [05:34.080 --> 05:35.080] you. [05:35.080 --> 05:40.600] A case before the U.S. Supreme Court argues that just as defendants cannot use ignorance [05:40.600 --> 05:45.560] of the law as a defense, police officers cannot justify a search and seizure based on a mistaken [05:45.560 --> 05:47.680] understanding of the law. [05:47.680 --> 05:53.280] The case centers on a traffic stop, April 29th of 2009, in Surrey County, North Carolina, [05:53.280 --> 05:58.360] in which a deputy sheriff pulled over Nicholas Brady Hine in a Ford escort because one of [05:58.360 --> 06:01.080] his brake lights was not functioning. [06:01.080 --> 06:05.000] Hine searched the car and the occupants ultimately were charged with drug possession. [06:05.000 --> 06:09.640] But the deputy didn't know that the state's decades-old statute requires only one brake [06:09.640 --> 06:11.760] light to function. [06:11.760 --> 06:17.480] Hine's attorneys argue, therefore, the deputy had no reasonable cause to stop the car. [06:17.480 --> 06:21.480] The upcoming decision could have significant implications for application of the Fourth [06:21.480 --> 06:26.560] Amendment which protects citizens and their property from unreasonable searches and seizures. [06:26.560 --> 06:30.880] Representing Hine in oral arguments before the High Court Attorney Jeffrey Fisher contended [06:30.880 --> 06:35.160] the legal reasoning that applies to citizens who plead ignorant to the law should also [06:35.160 --> 06:38.040] apply to law enforcement. [06:38.040 --> 06:41.880] Mr. Chief Justice, you asked, I think, about the ignorance canon. [06:41.880 --> 06:46.520] The state's response was, well, if somebody is reasonably mistaken about the law, we could [06:46.520 --> 06:47.920] convict him. [06:47.920 --> 06:53.360] Fisher said, and the reason why is because we would assume he knew the law. [06:53.360 --> 06:57.800] We would assume they knew the law when they acted. [06:57.800 --> 07:02.880] And all we are asking for today is the exact same assumption to apply to police officers, [07:02.880 --> 07:03.880] he said. [07:03.880 --> 07:08.080] A friend of the court brief filed on behalf of Hine presented the question of whether or [07:08.080 --> 07:13.400] not a police officer may engage in a Fourth Amendment seizure based on his mistaken belief [07:13.400 --> 07:18.280] that perfectly legal behavior is illegal, so long as courts later deem his mistake to [07:18.280 --> 07:20.600] have been reasonable. [07:20.600 --> 07:24.840] It is well established that a police traffic stop of an automobile constitutes a Fourth [07:24.840 --> 07:28.560] Amendment seizure of the automobile and its occupants said the brief. [07:28.560 --> 07:32.680] The brief submitted by attorneys at William J. Olson, P.C., the United States Justice [07:32.680 --> 07:37.440] Foundation in Weinberg, Jacobs, and Tijuana. [07:37.440 --> 07:42.080] They filed on behalf of a number of civil rights and other organizations, including gun owners' [07:42.080 --> 07:46.280] foundations, and I'm not only going to this entirely, but there's a huge list of them. [07:46.280 --> 07:50.520] In the oral arguments, Fisher pointed out that with no disagreement from the other side, [07:50.520 --> 07:55.480] the common law rule dating back centuries was that ignorance of the law on the police [07:55.480 --> 08:00.640] officer's part, even if it was perfectly reasonable, didn't justify the stop. [08:00.640 --> 08:04.360] In a country dedicated to the rule of law, governmental officers should be presumed to [08:04.360 --> 08:08.200] know the law at least as well as the citizens are, he asserted. [08:08.200 --> 08:13.480] He argued the traffic stop would never have taken place had not the officer made a mistake, [08:13.480 --> 08:17.480] meaning there would have been no search and no consequent charges. [08:17.480 --> 08:21.800] Justice Antonian Scalia questioned whether or not it would be proper to exclude from [08:21.800 --> 08:25.760] a court case any evidence discovered, of course he did. [08:25.760 --> 08:29.320] Fisher said the proper remedy would be for the Supreme Court to return the case to lower [08:29.320 --> 08:33.640] courts where state judicial rules would exclude any of the evidence found. [08:33.640 --> 08:37.960] Robert Montgomery of the State Office of Attorney General argued for the case to be maintained. [08:37.960 --> 08:42.160] He said the Fourth Amendment doesn't require police officers to be perfect. [08:42.160 --> 08:45.960] All that is required is that a police officer has a reasonable view of the facts and apply [08:45.960 --> 08:49.680] those facts to a reasonable understanding of the law. [08:49.680 --> 08:53.600] Justice Sonia Sauttermeyer said the relevant North Carolina law remains unclear. [08:53.600 --> 08:59.080] When will we ever get an understanding, the right understanding of the law, she asked, [08:59.080 --> 09:03.720] meaning as I read the North Carolina Supreme Court decision it still hasn't told me whether [09:03.720 --> 09:07.720] it's one or two brake lights and the next police officer who wants to stop someone won't [09:07.720 --> 09:10.560] know that either. [09:10.560 --> 09:14.680] The parties to the friend of the court brief argued the deputies actions violated the Fourth [09:14.680 --> 09:18.360] Amendment because he had no legal authority to stop the citizen. [09:18.360 --> 09:22.760] The officer lacked the essential legal predicate upon which to stop petitioner's automobile [09:22.760 --> 09:26.440] and to interfere with the automobile's occupants' freedom of movement. [09:26.440 --> 09:30.800] If a police officer has no legal authority for stopping a person, he is no different [09:30.800 --> 09:33.160] from a common trespasser, they wrote. [09:33.160 --> 09:37.440] The Fourth Amendment's standard of reasonableness is most assuredly not, as the State Supreme [09:37.440 --> 09:42.960] Court claimed, a fluid concept gauged by a totality of the circumstances, standard of [09:42.960 --> 09:47.240] negligence as if there were a personal injury tort case, the brief said. [09:47.240 --> 09:51.440] Rather, the reasonableness of a Fourth Amendment search or seizure is to be measured by whether [09:51.440 --> 09:56.480] the government official had a sufficient factual basis giving it a property interest superior [09:56.480 --> 10:00.600] to the private property interest to the person whose person, house, effects or papers are [10:00.600 --> 10:02.800] being seized and or searched. [10:02.800 --> 10:07.120] There being no such valid legal claim in this case, the seizure of the automobile was objectively [10:07.120 --> 10:10.200] and per se unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment. [10:10.200 --> 10:18.320] Now, I want to go a little bit into this and take its application in traffic just as the [10:18.320 --> 10:21.360] basis of this case begins with a traffic stop. [10:21.360 --> 10:26.000] Now, folks, you want to know why I chose this as one of my pet peeves. [10:26.000 --> 10:31.720] First and foremost, this is where most people will find that their interaction with law [10:31.720 --> 10:37.080] occurs first and most often is in this particular area of law. [10:37.080 --> 10:45.200] And it is in this particular area of the law that a majority of the criminal cases originate. [10:45.200 --> 10:55.360] Stops of cars under traffic pretenses in order to conduct illegal searches, illegal investigations [10:55.360 --> 11:00.920] just to see if they can find a way to make a criminal act happen even if there isn't [11:00.920 --> 11:08.400] one happening and maybe just maybe getting lucky enough to uncover an actual crime in [11:08.400 --> 11:11.320] progress. [11:11.320 --> 11:16.120] But to me, just as Jefferson said, I would rather take the inconveniences associated [11:16.120 --> 11:22.840] with too much liberty than those associated with too little. [11:22.840 --> 11:28.480] I would rather that certain types of criminals, now let me clarify this here, not every criminal, [11:28.480 --> 11:32.320] of course, and not under every set of circumstances, which makes it difficult. [11:32.320 --> 11:37.680] But the fact of the matter is, I personally have never considered my car to be any different [11:37.680 --> 11:45.120] than my house regardless of what these morons on the bench prefer to think. [11:45.120 --> 11:47.120] My property is my property. [11:47.120 --> 11:54.280] It is irrelevant whether my property is mobile, stationary, rundown, burnt up, plastic, glass, [11:54.280 --> 11:56.440] steel, or rock. [11:56.440 --> 11:58.400] It doesn't matter. [11:58.400 --> 12:05.400] It is private, and it should be no less secure from the prying eyes and actions of government [12:05.400 --> 12:09.520] than my house should be. [12:09.520 --> 12:17.280] We did not make any distinctions in the authority we granted to our public servants between one [12:17.280 --> 12:21.520] type of private property and another. [12:21.520 --> 12:27.440] Searches and seizures should be equally applied across the board just as if every piece of [12:27.440 --> 12:37.760] property is that man's castle, period, because we did not authorize any other type of interpretation. [12:37.760 --> 12:44.240] It is your public servants who have unlawfully and illegally seized the idea of usurpation [12:44.240 --> 12:51.360] of power and authority to create doctrines that empower them in ways we never intended [12:51.360 --> 12:54.320] and we never authorized. [12:54.320 --> 13:01.400] They've given this power to themselves, and that is a dangerous precedent to let them [13:01.400 --> 13:03.600] to continue on with. [13:03.600 --> 13:07.200] Now, that's my opinion of it. [13:07.200 --> 13:13.000] You may have a different one, and you're welcome to it, but don't come running to me crying [13:13.000 --> 13:18.000] when they take your wants and needs and use them against you because you thought it was [13:18.000 --> 13:21.200] a good idea at the time. [13:21.200 --> 13:29.040] I would much rather say they have zero authority over anything and everything private than to [13:29.040 --> 13:35.440] give them enough of a crowbar that they can pry their way into other areas we never wanted [13:35.440 --> 13:41.720] them to be like they have already done. [13:41.720 --> 13:48.560] This is what you get for thinking that your public servants can behave reasonably and [13:48.560 --> 13:55.040] act accordingly because reasonableness is subjective. [13:55.040 --> 14:00.960] Therefore, there should be no mediation of reasonableness. [14:00.960 --> 14:09.520] There should be a bright line drawn that no one is allowed to cross without repercussions, [14:09.520 --> 14:13.560] whether they be acting privately or publicly. [14:13.560 --> 14:19.600] A private person has no right to cross the line to harm another person or their property [14:19.600 --> 14:26.920] except in the case of self-defense of themselves, their own property, or that of another. [14:26.920 --> 14:29.920] That's it. [14:29.920 --> 14:35.680] Government has no power and authority to cross the line going the other way until there is [14:35.680 --> 14:43.000] an actual victim complaining of a harm, whether it be the person that got harmed or it be [14:43.000 --> 14:48.960] the person's family if the person was killed. [14:48.960 --> 14:56.960] The government should never be allowed to be the initiator of an action, never, never, [14:56.960 --> 15:05.080] ever, ever because you see right now exactly the kind of abuses that come from it. [15:05.080 --> 15:10.160] They take administrative law which is everything in all of these codes and they have turned [15:10.160 --> 15:17.440] us into an administrative population, not a free population, not a population that has [15:17.440 --> 15:23.160] freedom and liberty and the right to do anything, but only those things that the statutes say [15:23.160 --> 15:29.280] we can do or that the statutes don't specifically prohibit. [15:29.280 --> 15:31.200] That's where we've been relegated to. [15:31.200 --> 15:36.680] That's where your freedom is, people, because you remain fat, lazy, stupid, and ignorant [15:36.680 --> 15:41.720] of how this has happened and who did it and instead keep asking for more of it. [15:41.720 --> 15:45.360] Well, the government ought to do this and stop this from happening. [15:45.360 --> 15:50.320] Well, if we don't get somebody down there at the legislature to pass this law, we're [15:50.320 --> 15:52.720] all going to be in big trouble. [15:52.720 --> 15:55.440] You're already in big trouble. [15:55.440 --> 16:02.080] Your apathetic, pathetic nature of let somebody else take care of it has ruined freedom and [16:02.080 --> 16:09.280] liberty for everybody because not only have we lost our republic, we've been converted [16:09.280 --> 16:15.240] into the worst form of government outside of complete and total despotism and that's [16:15.240 --> 16:19.040] a democracy. [16:19.040 --> 16:25.160] There's a reason the founding father said no democracy and yet that's all administrative [16:25.160 --> 16:32.600] law can be because administrative law is created by a majority vote. 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[19:49.400 --> 19:53.880] I've got court on that tomorrow morning and I think I'm going to be able to get this thrown [19:53.880 --> 19:54.880] out. [19:54.880 --> 19:59.200] I'm not too concerned about it because the affidavit is so screwed up. [19:59.200 --> 20:08.560] Just to bring you up to date, Sunday I went to my corner and signed my sign around noon, [20:08.560 --> 20:13.200] parked at Walmart, parked a lot, went in, bought something, brought it out, put it in [20:13.200 --> 20:21.520] my recreational conveyance and went to work. [20:21.520 --> 20:23.520] It wasn't very long. [20:23.520 --> 20:31.160] The officer that has given me a couple other tickets came over, pulled me off, cuffed me [20:31.160 --> 20:38.000] and put me in the back seat of another officer's car, a male officer, who was very professional, [20:38.000 --> 20:46.840] nice man about my age, I'm 57, and he was the one transporting me down the county jail. [20:46.840 --> 20:57.160] They charged me with 316.2045, this time subsection two instead of one, which they all relate [20:57.160 --> 21:05.520] to obstructing traffic, which not the Supreme Court, the U.S. District Court, just happened [21:05.520 --> 21:14.360] to be District 11, which is here, ruled that whole section, all of 2045 unconstitutional [21:14.360 --> 21:19.320] on a couple of years ago, but they're still writing tickets on this. [21:19.320 --> 21:21.440] Not only writing tickets, they took me to jail. [21:21.440 --> 21:24.240] Yeah, which means you've got a full-blown lawsuit. [21:24.240 --> 21:25.240] Yes, sir. [21:25.240 --> 21:30.360] Now, remember, don't forget to look up, Trevizant versus City of Tampa. [21:30.360 --> 21:33.640] Oh, I have the full copy on my laptop. [21:33.640 --> 21:34.640] Okay. [21:34.640 --> 21:40.640] Now, here's the kicker, here's what really threw the salt in the eyes, while sitting [21:40.640 --> 21:46.360] in the Walmart parking lot, cuffed in the back seat, the lady officer, who's not nice [21:46.360 --> 21:54.600] at all, decided, she told the other officer, she wants to ticket my conveyance and have [21:54.600 --> 22:04.480] it towed, towed and impounded percent in the parking lot, and it has 2011 Texas tags on [22:04.480 --> 22:05.480] it. [22:05.480 --> 22:13.080] Florida should have a statute for a tort for theft. [22:13.080 --> 22:19.440] You should have a tort for theft if you file in the state court, otherwise you have to [22:19.440 --> 22:23.000] do it at the federal level. [22:23.000 --> 22:29.440] But how many people were present, how many officers? [22:29.440 --> 22:35.800] Here is three at one point, and I made sure the nice gentleman officer listed all the [22:35.800 --> 22:36.800] names. [22:36.800 --> 22:37.800] Okay, good. [22:37.800 --> 22:40.240] Then all you, that's a federal RICO. [22:40.240 --> 22:44.560] You only need three and more people conspiring to commit a criminal act for it to be federal [22:44.560 --> 22:46.320] RICO. [22:46.320 --> 22:50.920] You get one of them on a felony, then all of them are guilty of the same felony. [22:50.920 --> 22:51.920] Okay. [22:51.920 --> 22:57.000] Now, the one officer left, apparently, after he was on a felony. [22:57.000 --> 22:59.480] What matter if he left? [22:59.480 --> 23:03.920] He did not prevent the other people from contemplating the crime, and he actually participated in [23:03.920 --> 23:06.520] their actions in some form or fashion. [23:06.520 --> 23:08.720] That makes the number that you need. [23:08.720 --> 23:09.720] Okay. [23:09.720 --> 23:16.120] Now, the felony in this case would be aggravated kidnapping, aggravated assault, pick one. [23:16.120 --> 23:17.120] Yeah. [23:17.120 --> 23:18.120] Okay. [23:18.120 --> 23:26.600] Now, what happened was, according to an ICE officer that had me in his car, he said, [23:26.600 --> 23:31.600] she wanted to have a toad, and the supervision said, no, no, no, no, no. [23:31.600 --> 23:34.920] You have absolutely no legal authority to do so. [23:34.920 --> 23:40.800] So, she went into Walmart, talked to the manager, allegedly, came back out and told [23:40.800 --> 23:46.080] my officer that the manager, once it toad, doesn't ever want me there again. [23:46.080 --> 23:52.320] Now, my officer thought that was a lie, and so did I. [23:52.320 --> 23:55.400] Well, that would most likely be the case. [23:55.400 --> 24:01.560] Now, Ira, you need to subpoena the manager in Walmart that was on duty that day. [24:01.560 --> 24:02.560] I've got his name. [24:02.560 --> 24:09.440] The officer gave me his name, and, you know, I've talked to those managers several times. [24:09.440 --> 24:10.760] They understand my situation. [24:10.760 --> 24:15.400] They're very kind people, and they don't mind me parking there during the day. [24:15.400 --> 24:19.800] They just say I want me to spend the night there, and I don't. [24:19.800 --> 24:25.600] But right now, I am legally homeless. [24:25.600 --> 24:34.400] My conveyance is at their tow truck place, they want $750 for this tow. [24:34.400 --> 24:38.960] That's all money that you can get back from the cops, and the city and the department, [24:38.960 --> 24:43.080] and, of course, ultimately the taxpayers, because the cops aren't going to wind up paying [24:43.080 --> 24:49.720] for it, which that's the biggest thing, egregious thing out of all of this, is that [24:49.720 --> 24:54.560] the city should be liable for any amount the cops can't pay, but the cops should have to [24:54.560 --> 25:00.120] forfeit every single thing they own to pay every penny of it they can, and then and only [25:00.120 --> 25:04.040] then should the city have to bear the burden of their mess up. [25:04.040 --> 25:07.120] That's the way I'd love it to be. [25:07.120 --> 25:12.400] I guarantee you, when a cop has to give up everything he owns because he was stupid, [25:12.400 --> 25:15.480] they'll learn to not be stupid. [25:15.480 --> 25:19.600] But until we make that happen, this ain't going to stop. [25:19.600 --> 25:23.840] And that word will spread like a lightning across the country. [25:23.840 --> 25:26.280] Oh, absolutely. [25:26.280 --> 25:31.600] When the officer themselves has zero immunity from being held financially liable for their [25:31.600 --> 25:38.440] actions or inactions, this will send a message they can't afford to be stupid anymore, and [25:38.440 --> 25:43.000] they will start picking and choosing their battles a lot more carefully than they are. [25:43.000 --> 25:50.240] Yeah, I told her about that statute being unconstitutional, and she just smiles and says, doesn't matter. [25:50.240 --> 25:51.240] It's on the books. [25:51.240 --> 25:52.240] I'm protected. [25:52.240 --> 25:53.240] No, she's not. [25:53.240 --> 25:54.240] That's me. [25:54.240 --> 25:59.600] She's absolutely not protected if the Supreme Court has already ruled it unconstitutional. [25:59.600 --> 26:02.600] Doesn't matter whether the legislature left it on the books. [26:02.600 --> 26:04.600] She absolutely is not protected. [26:04.600 --> 26:08.920] It was a U.S. district court, but same thing. [26:08.920 --> 26:10.600] This is good. [26:10.600 --> 26:17.480] Well, either way, the federal, the state law was trumped by that federal decision. [26:17.480 --> 26:20.880] When it was declared unconstitutional, it doesn't matter whether the legislature took [26:20.880 --> 26:22.480] it off the books or not. [26:22.480 --> 26:30.840] The officers are required to know, and if they act while they know, they're liable. [26:30.840 --> 26:36.320] And I verified that today face to face with the state attorney, and he said, yes, it was [26:36.320 --> 26:42.680] ruled that at least three years ago, because either 2009 or 2011. [26:42.680 --> 26:43.680] Okay. [26:43.680 --> 26:47.200] Then I guarantee you it will not be a hard thing to find an attorney to take this case [26:47.200 --> 26:54.000] and turn it into a lawsuit, because they know they can win this in a slam dunk. [26:54.000 --> 26:56.720] And they will probably do it on contingency. [26:56.720 --> 26:59.360] No questions asked. [26:59.360 --> 27:04.880] What can I do in the near term as far as getting my home back? [27:04.880 --> 27:10.240] Well, the only thing you can do is get the money and get it out, or you can try to go [27:10.240 --> 27:14.080] down to the police station and let them know that you're filing suit and you want that [27:14.080 --> 27:15.080] thing out of there. [27:15.080 --> 27:19.440] And for them to pay for it, I wouldn't hold my breath on that, though. [27:19.440 --> 27:20.440] Yeah. [27:20.440 --> 27:28.760] I found out that they do not, absolutely do not have cameras and mics in these cars. [27:28.760 --> 27:31.640] And that's done me for a long time, and then I finally... [27:31.640 --> 27:32.640] Okay. [27:32.640 --> 27:35.120] Well, that's Wal-Mart, right? [27:35.120 --> 27:36.120] Yes, sir. [27:36.120 --> 27:40.360] Wal-Mart has security cameras that covers every inch of their parking lots. [27:40.360 --> 27:41.360] Yes, sir. [27:41.360 --> 27:49.040] Well, in the process of this, when they took everything out of them, put it in my hat, [27:49.040 --> 27:52.960] they ended up taking my keys. [27:52.960 --> 27:53.960] Okay. [27:53.960 --> 28:01.680] When I got out of jail and got my property back, I had no keys. [28:01.680 --> 28:06.880] I thought that was kind of interesting that they stole my keys when they...going to tell [28:06.880 --> 28:07.880] my conveyance. [28:07.880 --> 28:12.080] I thought that was an interesting twist. [28:12.080 --> 28:16.560] Well, maybe, but you're still going to have to go through these channels to get any of [28:16.560 --> 28:22.000] it back, or at least they're going to have to believe you're prepared to go through these [28:22.000 --> 28:23.320] channels to get any of it back. [28:23.320 --> 28:26.760] An attorney could probably help you get that back. [28:26.760 --> 28:34.560] I don't know about the car, your mobile home, or whatever you want to call it, but I would [28:34.560 --> 28:41.360] start looking because any civil rights attorney is going to snap this one up because this [28:41.360 --> 28:43.360] one is an obvious win. [28:43.360 --> 28:49.200] Yeah, because it proves the poison free, I mean, automatically. [28:49.200 --> 28:51.280] Well, not just simply that. [28:51.280 --> 28:58.240] The officer knowingly attempted to enforce an unconstitutional statute. [28:58.240 --> 29:02.120] There is no rock she can crawl under far enough. [29:02.120 --> 29:06.480] Oh, she says she doesn't know that. [29:06.480 --> 29:09.000] That's baloney. [29:09.000 --> 29:10.000] That's baloney. [29:10.000 --> 29:13.240] She is required to know that. [29:13.240 --> 29:16.640] That's exactly what this article I was reading is about. [29:16.640 --> 29:23.000] The officer cannot claim anger to the law any more than the citizen can. [29:23.000 --> 29:26.880] I missed the first few minutes of that, but I caught the rest. [29:26.880 --> 29:28.400] That looked really good. [29:28.400 --> 29:31.240] Yeah, that article makes it very clear. [29:31.240 --> 29:36.040] If it's decided in the favor of the plaintiff in this case, the officers have nowhere to [29:36.040 --> 29:43.240] hide when they act unlawfully in violation of the mandate to the statute or a court case [29:43.240 --> 29:46.520] that overturns it or rules it can only be applied a certain way. [29:46.520 --> 29:48.120] They got nowhere to hide after that. [29:48.120 --> 29:51.040] All right, hang on, we're going to take a break. [29:51.040 --> 30:03.240] 512-646-1984, we'll be right back. [30:03.240 --> 30:04.240] Fishing is a wonderful pastime. [30:04.240 --> 30:09.000] It's a terrific way to bond with family and get in touch with nature, but there's a scary [30:09.000 --> 30:11.280] kind of fishing you'll want nothing to do with. [30:11.280 --> 30:15.880] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll tell you more in just a moment. [30:15.880 --> 30:17.480] Privacy is under attack. [30:17.480 --> 30:21.080] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [30:21.080 --> 30:25.840] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [30:25.840 --> 30:31.120] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself. [30:31.120 --> 30:33.600] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [30:33.600 --> 30:37.920] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, the private search [30:37.920 --> 30:41.400] engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [30:41.400 --> 30:44.800] Start over with StartPage. [30:44.800 --> 30:47.640] Fishing spelled with a pH isn't very sporting. [30:47.640 --> 30:51.600] The goal is to reel in personal information and compromise your accounts. [30:51.600 --> 30:54.120] The pH in fishing stands for phony. [30:54.120 --> 30:58.400] Fishing scams involve impersonating legitimate organizations like banks, and the bait is [30:58.400 --> 31:00.040] usually a phony email. [31:00.040 --> 31:04.440] A phishing email may ask for account information or provide a link to an official-looking website, [31:04.440 --> 31:06.120] but don't fall for it. [31:06.120 --> 31:09.760] Never email your bank account number, your user ID, or passwords. [31:09.760 --> 31:14.160] Legitimate companies won't ask you to, and it's best to enter a website address directly [31:14.160 --> 31:17.920] without rather than clicking on an email link to check an account or make a purchase. [31:17.920 --> 31:21.640] Accidentally typing data into a fishing website could cost you thousands. [31:21.640 --> 31:51.600] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [32:22.600 --> 32:39.400] You can get your own copy of this invaluable material by going to RuralLawRadio.com and [32:39.400 --> 32:40.720] ordering your copy today. [32:40.720 --> 32:47.120] By ordering now you will receive a copy of Eddie's book The Texas Transportation Code, [32:47.120 --> 32:50.120] 100 research documents and other useful resource material. [32:50.120 --> 32:54.120] Learn how to fight for your rights with the help of this material from ruleoflawradio.com [32:54.120 --> 32:59.120] Order your copy today and together we can have free society we all want and deserve. [33:02.120 --> 33:07.120] Live free speech radio, LogosRadioNetwork.com [33:07.120 --> 33:11.120] LogosRadioNetwork.com [33:37.120 --> 33:41.120] LogosRadioNetwork.com [34:07.120 --> 34:12.120] LogosRadioNetwork.com [34:37.120 --> 34:42.120] LogosRadioNetwork.com [35:07.120 --> 35:12.120] LogosRadioNetwork.com [35:37.120 --> 35:44.120] And since ignorance of the law is not an excuse for us, it is not an excuse for them. [35:44.120 --> 35:49.120] Well see they don't use that phrase, they use operating in good faith. [35:49.120 --> 35:54.120] There ain't no such animal in this instance. [35:54.120 --> 36:02.120] The officer is not operating in good faith when they refuse to become educated of the law [36:02.120 --> 36:08.120] to remain intentionally ignorant so as to avoid culpability. Can't be done. [36:12.120 --> 36:16.120] I think I'll have no problem getting these various tickets thrown out. [36:16.120 --> 36:19.120] I already found motions on some of them. [36:19.120 --> 36:22.120] Yeah but that doesn't help you financially with the other stuff. [36:22.120 --> 36:25.120] Getting the tickets thrown out is only the first step. [36:25.120 --> 36:32.120] After that you have to get busy and go after them. [36:32.120 --> 36:34.120] Yes sir. [36:34.120 --> 36:42.120] Because if you don't, somebody else right behind you is going to suffer the exact same thing or worse. [36:42.120 --> 36:44.120] No it's happening every day. [36:44.120 --> 36:55.120] Yeah that is maybe happening every day but how many people are going to wind up dead because they're attempting to enforce an unconstitutional statute and the next person it claims to have resisted. [36:55.120 --> 36:57.120] So they killed them. [36:57.120 --> 36:58.120] Yeah. [37:01.120 --> 37:05.120] This pretty much goes along with the Spider-Man rule. [37:05.120 --> 37:20.120] With great power comes great responsibility. Well right now you have power that somebody else may not have and avoiding its exercise by doing the right thing imperils other people. [37:22.120 --> 37:30.120] Yes sir. I fully agree. It is my responsibility to do something about this. [37:30.120 --> 37:35.120] When you have the power to do it, it most certainly is. [37:35.120 --> 37:42.120] And right now based upon the information you've given me, I can't see how you don't have that power. [37:42.120 --> 37:58.120] Yes sir. And all the knowledge I've gained in the last four and a half years from you and many others online and all the reading I've done, you know, studying the law, I think I can do a slam dunk. [37:58.120 --> 38:02.120] Well, I wish you luck with that. [38:02.120 --> 38:07.120] I need luck because a lot of times skill don't work. [38:07.120 --> 38:13.120] Luck never hurts no matter what. Even if you got skill, luck doesn't hurt. [38:13.120 --> 38:16.120] I guarantee it doesn't work anymore with the Spider-Man. [38:16.120 --> 38:17.120] Yeah. [38:17.120 --> 38:20.120] Skill and experience ain't doing no good any. [38:20.120 --> 38:24.120] But I'm going to let you go. I'm not going to speed up all your show like I did last Monday. [38:24.120 --> 38:29.120] All right, Mark. Well, you have a good one and good luck. Go after them. [38:29.120 --> 38:32.120] I'll keep you up to date. Thank you very much for everything you do. [38:32.120 --> 38:39.120] And by the way, tell Randy Kelton that I think me and him might be brothers from different parents. [38:39.120 --> 38:40.120] Well, okay. [38:40.120 --> 38:42.120] We've got a lot in common. [38:42.120 --> 38:45.120] All right. I'll let him know that. [38:45.120 --> 38:47.120] All right. You have a good night. [38:47.120 --> 38:49.120] You too. Bye-bye. [38:49.120 --> 38:55.120] All right. Now we're going to go to John in California. John, what can I do for you? [38:55.120 --> 38:59.120] Hi, Eddie. Nice to talk to you. [38:59.120 --> 39:04.120] I received, I'm in California, obviously, and I received a red light ticket. [39:04.120 --> 39:05.120] Camera ticket? [39:05.120 --> 39:08.120] It's in camera ticket, yes. [39:08.120 --> 39:09.120] Okay. [39:09.120 --> 39:16.120] So I used your red light letter, sent it to the sheriff's department and also red flex. [39:16.120 --> 39:21.120] Certified, got those back. I've not heard any, I just got the certified return receipt back. [39:21.120 --> 39:23.120] But let me know that they got it. [39:23.120 --> 39:24.120] Okay. [39:24.120 --> 39:33.120] I've not heard anything back. I've got to, I filed for an extension which is coming up, you know, to finally appear on it. [39:33.120 --> 39:36.120] What's the next step that I take when I report? [39:36.120 --> 39:43.120] Okay. Does the citation not say to appear or send in a written challenge to? [39:43.120 --> 39:48.120] Or does it say you have to appear even if you do that? [39:48.120 --> 39:51.120] No, I believe I've got the option to do both. [39:51.120 --> 39:54.120] Okay. So why would you do both? [39:54.120 --> 40:05.120] You've already submitted what you want to do in writing as far as that goes and challenged what they put out there as the accusation. [40:05.120 --> 40:19.120] Why would you go in there just so they can administratively say we don't care about your due process or the rules you're guilty? Because all you're doing then is waving jurisdiction over yourself by going in there. [40:19.120 --> 40:28.120] Okay. That makes sense. I only sent it to the sheriff and red flex. Do I need to send it to the court? [40:28.120 --> 40:38.120] Where did the citation tell you to send it? [40:38.120 --> 40:41.120] Citation is from the court. [40:41.120 --> 40:49.120] Okay. That was not my question. And I doubt very seriously the citation came from the court. [40:49.120 --> 40:59.120] If red flex runs the camera, it came from red flex. They may have sent it to the court and the court sent it to you, but it's not issued by the court. [40:59.120 --> 41:11.120] Where were you told in the citation to send your rebuttal or your challenge? [41:11.120 --> 41:21.120] I haven't looked at that closely to be honest with you. Read these things carefully. That's important. [41:21.120 --> 41:34.120] Okay. I also got, obviously, the citation was from red flex, but then a week later I got courtesy notice from the court. [41:34.120 --> 41:41.120] Okay. We'll see. That's just the whole deal. Courtesy notice from the court doesn't mean squat. [41:41.120 --> 41:53.120] In California, these are what? Civil or are they infractions? Are they criminal misdemeanors? What are they? [41:53.120 --> 42:07.120] I'm almost willing to bet you they're civil. And the court, you need to see in the statutes how they're handled, because normally they don't go directly to a court. [42:07.120 --> 42:13.120] They will go to some administrative commissioner pretending to be a court. [42:13.120 --> 42:15.120] Right. They do. Yes. [42:15.120 --> 42:26.120] Okay. Then you have no legal obligation to appear before or respond to any administrative tribunal. That's the whole purpose of what you wrote in the letter. [42:26.120 --> 42:33.120] Okay. Okay. [42:33.120 --> 42:54.120] So I need to, after I hang up with you, verify that I only need to respond, that I can respond by written to the citation and that, and what you're saying is that if that's the case, then I am covered as far as responding to them. [42:54.120 --> 43:06.120] Well, you're covered as far as if one of the places you sent it is at least what you're told to send it to in the notice. Yeah. [43:06.120 --> 43:18.120] But the language should be to send in a written challenge or whatever, or to appear in person to challenge. You shouldn't have to do both. [43:18.120 --> 43:31.120] Okay. [43:31.120 --> 43:34.120] Okay. [43:34.120 --> 43:36.120] Okay. You got music coming on. [43:36.120 --> 43:41.120] Yeah. Yeah. Just hold that thought and we'll pick you up on the other side. Okay. [43:41.120 --> 43:48.120] All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, the calling number 512-646-1984. [43:48.120 --> 43:51.120] Give us a call. 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[46:30.120 --> 46:43.120] Yeah, so it gives me two options. It says, if you can test the violation, A, you can do a court trial or B, trial by written declaration. [46:43.120 --> 46:48.120] Okay. And what kind of court does it say it will be conducted in? [46:48.120 --> 46:56.120] Now, you may not find that on the citation. You'll find that in the statues relating to the ability to issue the citation. [46:56.120 --> 47:01.120] Okay. Yeah, because it doesn't say it here. So I need to look at the statutes. [47:01.120 --> 47:08.120] Yeah, you'll need to look at the statutes to see what kind of court this is supposed to be conducted in and I almost guarantee you it's not a judicial court of any kind. [47:08.120 --> 47:18.120] Therefore, that's exactly why you need to stand on the letter stating that you do not agree to any administrative judicial determinations because those are not. [47:18.120 --> 47:19.120] Got it. [47:19.120 --> 47:26.120] They're not at all synonymous. They can't be administrative and judicial. [47:26.120 --> 47:29.120] Okay. I got it. That's why that's written there. [47:29.120 --> 47:35.120] And the courtesy notice, it says it's, you know, the letterhead says from the Superior Court of California. [47:35.120 --> 47:42.120] I don't know. You have to find out what kind of court that is. [47:42.120 --> 47:48.120] I don't know everything about the California court system, so I have no way of answering that question for you. [47:48.120 --> 48:02.120] What type of court is the Superior Court? And I don't know why they would call a low-end administrative court superior to anything other than a dog training court. [48:02.120 --> 48:07.120] Okay. [48:07.120 --> 48:15.120] Okay, so I need to look up the statutes to find out what courts this... [48:15.120 --> 48:17.120] What type of court. [48:17.120 --> 48:19.120] And then also what type of court. [48:19.120 --> 48:22.120] Exactly. [48:22.120 --> 48:31.120] Who has original jurisdiction and what type of jurisdiction is it and what type of court hears it? [48:31.120 --> 48:34.120] Okay. [48:34.120 --> 48:38.120] And then if that's the case that this is an administrative... [48:38.120 --> 48:45.120] Then you've already responded with the letter saying I don't agree to any administrative determination. [48:45.120 --> 48:49.120] So then I don't have to do anything at that point, but wait to hear the response. [48:49.120 --> 48:58.120] Well, again, that's what you need to research specifically in the statutes to see what they're allowed to do afterward. [48:58.120 --> 49:02.120] But everything in that letter is what you need to use. [49:02.120 --> 49:11.120] If you go forward and fight this in any other venue, you need to be making the exact same arguments that are made in that letter. [49:11.120 --> 49:14.120] Okay. [49:14.120 --> 49:15.120] All right. [49:15.120 --> 49:19.120] If I have to actually end up in court or in some sort of administrative... [49:19.120 --> 49:31.120] In administrative, you simply go in and just challenge their jurisdiction and any ability to hold you accountable in any fashion because it's administrative. [49:31.120 --> 49:37.120] Okay. [49:37.120 --> 49:44.120] Now, you have to remember in California that there is the specific statutes in California. [49:44.120 --> 49:52.120] If you read the definitions and the way they're applied in the language of the statutes, it's very, very clear it's commercial. [49:52.120 --> 49:56.120] So the red light cameras are going to be in the same code. [49:56.120 --> 50:00.120] Therefore, they could only apply to what? [50:00.120 --> 50:01.120] Commercial. [50:01.120 --> 50:05.120] There you go. [50:05.120 --> 50:07.120] Kind of. [50:07.120 --> 50:10.120] I understand that part. [50:10.120 --> 50:16.120] You mentioned there's a couple people in California that understand there's been a lot of research here. [50:16.120 --> 50:17.120] Yes, there are. [50:17.120 --> 50:21.120] And if you want their info, send me an email. [50:21.120 --> 50:23.120] I can give you one of them's info. [50:23.120 --> 50:24.120] The other one changes so much. [50:24.120 --> 50:28.120] I don't know if I can get in touch with them or not, but I can give you one for sure. [50:28.120 --> 50:30.120] Okay. [50:30.120 --> 50:31.120] I will do that tonight. [50:31.120 --> 50:33.120] Okay. [50:33.120 --> 50:34.120] All right. [50:34.120 --> 50:35.120] I got some studying to do. [50:35.120 --> 50:36.120] Thank you. [50:36.120 --> 50:37.120] You're very welcome. [50:37.120 --> 50:40.120] All right, now we're going to move on to Martichae in Tennessee. [50:40.120 --> 50:43.120] Martichae, welcome back. [50:43.120 --> 50:44.120] How you doing, Ed? [50:44.120 --> 50:45.120] I'm doing all right. [50:45.120 --> 50:47.120] Let's hear how you're doing. [50:47.120 --> 50:48.120] Yeah, you doing all right? [50:48.120 --> 50:49.120] I'm doing good. [50:49.120 --> 50:51.120] I got two different issues. [50:51.120 --> 50:53.120] I'm trying to go quick so I can get somebody else. [50:53.120 --> 51:01.120] But one is going to be about the, I had to check out and where they stopped me for the red light. [51:01.120 --> 51:07.120] I was saying that one of my headlights was out, I was going northbound, he was going southbound, I was turning to go home. [51:07.120 --> 51:10.120] He stopped me saying that my light was out. [51:10.120 --> 51:11.120] They searched my car and all that. [51:11.120 --> 51:15.120] Then eventually he got a search warrant to get in my house saying that. [51:15.120 --> 51:17.120] I gave him, I told him that. [51:17.120 --> 51:22.120] On probable cause of what did they get a search warrant? [51:22.120 --> 51:28.120] That I said that I had marijuana in my house. [51:28.120 --> 51:29.120] Did you say that? [51:29.120 --> 51:31.120] They said that. [51:31.120 --> 51:32.120] No, I didn't say that. [51:32.120 --> 51:39.120] So I went to court and as, I guess maybe I was doing that at the wrong court date. [51:39.120 --> 51:47.120] But as the judge was asking me to do what I was going to afford to turn up so no, I was going to sign in the papers. [51:47.120 --> 51:50.120] I didn't need to turn up and sabotage myself. [51:50.120 --> 51:55.120] He still appointed me an attorney and attorney came up and I'm looking around and I'm like, okay. [51:55.120 --> 52:01.120] So they start going to the field, talking about, he's going to put in a verdict of not guilty. [52:01.120 --> 52:06.120] And I was looking around like, how can you put in a plea for me or whatnot? [52:06.120 --> 52:09.120] But we finally, we finally make our way out of court. [52:09.120 --> 52:11.120] The judge was like, well, go ahead and talk to him. [52:11.120 --> 52:15.120] You can represent yourself, but they have to tell you what you could face and all that. [52:15.120 --> 52:16.120] I was like, okay, fine. [52:16.120 --> 52:19.120] Well, I want to go talk to the attorney. [52:19.120 --> 52:21.120] He had the evidence there. [52:21.120 --> 52:26.120] He laughed at me first thinking that I was some type of mor or cult or something like that. [52:26.120 --> 52:31.120] But when I told him that, no, I'm coming from a Native American stance. [52:31.120 --> 52:35.120] And he was saying, if you're laughing at what I'm saying, you can't represent me. [52:35.120 --> 52:41.120] So he finally got serious and started looking at the information and listening to what I was saying. [52:41.120 --> 52:44.120] Then he started saying, well, let's look at the video. [52:44.120 --> 52:58.120] Then they have, there was four police officers at the site with the police dogs, no video, no, no signature of me saying that I had marijuana in my house or a confession. [52:58.120 --> 53:03.120] No test of marijuana that they said that they found in my car. [53:03.120 --> 53:05.120] Nothing. [53:05.120 --> 53:12.120] So all they had was video of them questioning me at the containment center. [53:12.120 --> 53:18.120] So now he's looking at me like, yeah, there's something funny going on now. [53:18.120 --> 53:19.120] Yeah. [53:19.120 --> 53:27.120] Also, where is the audio and video from the patrol cars and the officers themselves during the stop where you allegedly said this? [53:27.120 --> 53:29.120] There is none. [53:29.120 --> 53:33.120] There is none or no one has it? [53:33.120 --> 53:36.120] There's no video. [53:36.120 --> 53:42.120] I mean, that's what the issue is, I mean, that's why he started taking me seriously. [53:42.120 --> 53:45.120] Instead of, he started looking around like, wait a minute, there's four cops. [53:45.120 --> 53:47.120] I'm like, yeah, four cops. [53:47.120 --> 53:49.120] Where's the video? [53:49.120 --> 53:51.120] You got two discs in your hand. [53:51.120 --> 54:05.120] He's saying about me being questioned at the containment center, which ain't nothing about me telling them about how they're wasting taxpayers' money for nothing. [54:05.120 --> 54:07.120] There's nothing else. [54:07.120 --> 54:13.120] And they have a search warrant from a judge signing and saying something like, yeah, that's a big problem, isn't it? [54:13.120 --> 54:17.120] How did they get that search warrant to search my house? [54:17.120 --> 54:21.120] There's no test of no narcotics that they found in my car. [54:21.120 --> 54:30.120] Then in the interrogation, they're going to come and ask me, well, the police forgot the narcotics in your car that they found earlier. [54:30.120 --> 54:34.120] Can they go back and get it? [54:34.120 --> 54:37.120] Yeah, well, again, that would just be a lie. [54:37.120 --> 54:43.120] They lie a lot, but the problem is when they lie on something that's got a signature. [54:43.120 --> 54:45.120] That's a whole other animal. [54:45.120 --> 54:53.120] They can lie to your face, but when they lie on official documents, they got a problem, whether they think so or not. [54:53.120 --> 54:59.120] You need to make it a problem and you need to make this lawyer make it a problem. [54:59.120 --> 55:01.120] Right. [55:01.120 --> 55:08.120] Well, I'm committed to that. That's why I'm also asking you advice on this next thing because I've been listening to you [55:08.120 --> 55:14.120] and I've been speaking to a few people, not just casual speaking. [55:14.120 --> 55:20.120] And I figured that I'm getting their attention at alarming rate. [55:20.120 --> 55:32.120] And at the point I am at in my life right now, I'm almost to the point where I'm financially situated to where I can do or focus my energy on some of these issues. [55:32.120 --> 55:43.120] And what I was thinking of was being able to start a small ministry which focused on legal issues, nothing about religion, [55:43.120 --> 56:04.120] but on legal issues that we've been taking advantage of and actually going out and demonstrating in certain ways as far as driving around without plates and licenses in a group and saying as far as bringing it to them. [56:04.120 --> 56:08.120] So that way we're ready, we're educated and saying before we make that step. [56:08.120 --> 56:18.120] And I was like, well, let me talk to you and see what you think about it because I don't want to make any move that would set the transition going back. [56:18.120 --> 56:23.120] I don't want to do anything that's going to cause us to go back instead of moving forward. [56:23.120 --> 56:41.120] Well, I can't think of, if you maintain the stuff that we talk about here on the fact that they tampered with the record, they falsified the record, they made false statements into the record to illegally obtain a warrant and so on and so forth. [56:41.120 --> 56:49.120] Then you beat them to death with their own rules of the game and the case law that backs it up. [56:49.120 --> 56:58.120] And there's no way this lawyer could lose this short of throwing it on purpose. [56:58.120 --> 57:08.120] So, you know, I would stick with the status quo and beat them up with their own rules because to me that's the safest position to start from. [57:08.120 --> 57:19.120] And this lawyer shouldn't have an issue with doing that and if he does, this ain't the law you want to keep, but if you want to make sure he does what he's supposed to, you let him know up front. [57:19.120 --> 57:22.120] Okay, you are my appointed counsel, is that correct? [57:22.120 --> 57:23.120] Yes. [57:23.120 --> 57:29.120] So you have to assist me in this case to the best of my rights and ability, right? [57:29.120 --> 57:30.120] Yes. [57:30.120 --> 57:31.120] Great. [57:31.120 --> 57:37.120] The moment you don't do that, I'm bar grieving you and every time you fail to do it, I'm bar grieving you. [57:37.120 --> 57:45.120] And when we're done, if you have a bar grievance from me for anything, then I'm suing you from our practice. [57:45.120 --> 57:49.120] Do we have an understanding? [57:49.120 --> 57:58.120] And from that point forward, you give him the spurs every time he balks at doing something that protects you. [57:58.120 --> 58:04.120] Okay. [58:04.120 --> 58:07.120] So is there anything else in that regard you need to know? [58:07.120 --> 58:09.120] If so, I'll hold you over till after the break. [58:09.120 --> 58:12.120] If not, then I'll pick up the next guy. [58:12.120 --> 58:14.120] Let me know. [58:14.120 --> 58:16.120] I got this. [58:16.120 --> 58:18.120] I need your advice on something that I'm supposed to do. [58:18.120 --> 58:20.120] Okay, well then just hold on, Marta Sham. [58:20.120 --> 58:23.120] We'll get that when we get on the other side, okay? [58:23.120 --> 58:25.120] All right, Roger, Rob, I see y'all there. [58:25.120 --> 58:26.120] Y'all hang on. [58:26.120 --> 58:27.120] We're about to go to break. [58:27.120 --> 58:31.120] This is the top of the hour break, so it's about three or four minutes, but we will be back. [58:31.120 --> 58:35.120] Folks, call in number 512-646-1984. [58:35.120 --> 58:37.120] Give us a call. [58:37.120 --> 58:50.120] We will be back in just a few. [58:50.120 --> 58:58.120] The Bible remains the most popular book in the world, yet countless readers are frustrated because they struggle to understand it. [58:58.120 --> 59:06.120] Some new translations try to help by simplifying the text, but in the process can compromise the profound meaning of the Scripture. 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[01:02:46.120 --> 01:02:51.120] This is the Liberty Beat for Monday, October 13, 2014. [01:02:51.120 --> 01:02:54.120] Check out the website at thelibertybeat.com. [01:02:54.120 --> 01:03:23.120] Don't forget to like us on Facebook at facebook.com The Liberty Beat. [01:03:23.120 --> 01:03:25.120] Alright folks, we are back. [01:03:25.120 --> 01:03:28.120] This is Rule of Law Radio. [01:03:28.120 --> 01:03:31.120] Call that number 512-646-984. [01:03:31.120 --> 01:03:33.120] We are talking to Martichet in Tennessee. [01:03:33.120 --> 01:03:35.120] Alright Martichet, continue on please. [01:03:35.120 --> 01:03:36.120] Yes. [01:03:36.120 --> 01:03:43.120] Alright, now I will just want to, because since I've been listening here, all my ideas have been coming from what I've been hearing. [01:03:43.120 --> 01:03:45.120] So I want to get your suggestion on this. [01:03:45.120 --> 01:03:52.120] I was, because I'm getting so many people to listen to me and ready to do something. [01:03:52.120 --> 01:04:00.120] And I'm in a position where I can afford to be that person who leaves and who makes the first step. [01:04:00.120 --> 01:04:04.120] I was thinking about pushing the right to travel issue. [01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:17.120] But as far as continuing to drive without license and registration and also teaching other people and also letting them sleep. [01:04:17.120 --> 01:04:25.120] The other ones who want to join or who have time to join in would, I heard a lot of people want to join in. [01:04:25.120 --> 01:04:32.120] But I'm telling them that they need to go ahead and get their finances, put in care first before end of the watch. [01:04:32.120 --> 01:04:45.120] And it seems like everybody wants to join in and go 20, 50 cars deep around the city and pushing those right to travel. [01:04:45.120 --> 01:04:48.120] And I just wanted to get your suggestion on it before I go any further. [01:04:48.120 --> 01:04:50.120] Well, that's all well and good. [01:04:50.120 --> 01:04:56.120] You just have to remember that the right to travel is not the argument to use in defense of any citations you get. [01:04:56.120 --> 01:05:03.120] That's what you use as a follow-up lawsuit after you beat the citations. [01:05:03.120 --> 01:05:07.120] So you got to remember that it's a two-stage process. [01:05:07.120 --> 01:05:09.120] Right. [01:05:09.120 --> 01:05:15.120] And right now Florida cops are very big on killing folks just for no good reason at all. [01:05:15.120 --> 01:05:18.120] Keep that in mind also. [01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:20.120] I'm in Tennessee. [01:05:20.120 --> 01:05:24.120] Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. Never mind. I'm looking at the wrong guy here. [01:05:24.120 --> 01:05:27.120] But still, that's bad enough. [01:05:27.120 --> 01:05:31.120] In Tennessee, it's always been a gun-happy state to begin with. The Hillbilly country, you know? [01:05:31.120 --> 01:05:33.120] Yeah. [01:05:33.120 --> 01:05:40.120] But I don't see anybody shooting me with that many eyes watching because there's going to be people following. [01:05:40.120 --> 01:05:45.120] Well, yeah. I mean, if you're in a large group like that, you certainly are safer than you would be out alone. [01:05:45.120 --> 01:05:56.120] But just remember that civil disobedience, they have a way of letting you get away with it in groups and then targeting you as individuals afterward. [01:05:56.120 --> 01:06:03.120] So you have to expect the unexpected because they will give it to you if you let them. [01:06:03.120 --> 01:06:05.120] Okay. [01:06:05.120 --> 01:06:10.120] So even though, even if they don't touch you when you're traveling around in a group like you're talking about, [01:06:10.120 --> 01:06:25.120] you better be aware of the fact that they record information and they will come at you as individuals afterward if they can't. [01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:30.120] So just a word of warning to the wise there. [01:06:30.120 --> 01:06:32.120] Okay. [01:06:32.120 --> 01:06:38.120] If they don't come after in a group, that makes a difference. It makes a point. [01:06:38.120 --> 01:06:51.120] Well, that's not necessarily true. You remember they have this little thing called officer discretion, known as the coward's part of valor. [01:06:51.120 --> 01:06:53.120] Okay. [01:06:53.120 --> 01:07:05.120] So the officer may choose not to attempt to enforce the statute when he realizes he's talking to a group, not an individual. [01:07:05.120 --> 01:07:15.120] So don't let, don't think that just because they don't interact with you when you do that, that they didn't notice and that they won't ever. [01:07:15.120 --> 01:07:17.120] Don't make that mistake. [01:07:17.120 --> 01:07:24.120] Okay. No. Okay. No. Okay. Yeah. I'm expecting to be targeted. That's why I was trying to tell them that I wanted to sit and watch. [01:07:24.120 --> 01:07:28.120] I had time to do this. This is something that I'm adamant about. [01:07:28.120 --> 01:07:36.120] And I wanted to be targeted in order to use, I'm about to be, I'm about to prioritize your program and study. [01:07:36.120 --> 01:07:47.120] I want to use this hands-on so the group can see instead of just getting there and talking, but then get yourself in the position where you can do something, then we can get together and do something. [01:07:47.120 --> 01:07:48.120] Yeah. [01:07:48.120 --> 01:07:55.120] If we, if people go to church every Sunday, if we use half that energy, we would run everything. [01:07:55.120 --> 01:08:04.120] If we use half that energy to what is necessary, we would, again, a lot of these problems wouldn't exist. [01:08:04.120 --> 01:08:06.120] That's what I said. [01:08:06.120 --> 01:08:09.120] Well, I can't disagree with you. [01:08:09.120 --> 01:08:23.120] I mean, I don't want to, because I'm getting my information from you, so I want to, I don't want to sabotage anybody doing something that, because I talk to people and most of them are violent. [01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:39.120] But when I, as I speak to them and show them how the law is supposed to be comprehended, they start, they start realizing they have other powers and start feeling secure and are able to let go of that rage and hate. [01:08:39.120 --> 01:08:41.120] And like, okay, I'm with you. [01:08:41.120 --> 01:08:49.120] I'd rather do something positive than just, and then instead of just sitting here using my hate and rage. [01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:54.120] Yeah, and you're going the route of exactly of what I said is the biggest problem. [01:08:54.120 --> 01:09:05.120] As individuals, you will never be able to change the system other than by affecting those other individuals to learn what the system is. [01:09:05.120 --> 01:09:09.120] One man against the system is a victim. [01:09:09.120 --> 01:09:18.120] A population against the system is victorious. [01:09:18.120 --> 01:09:22.120] So what am I missing to include the population? [01:09:22.120 --> 01:09:24.120] Well, you're doing exactly what I'm talking about. [01:09:24.120 --> 01:09:32.120] You're trying to educate the population so that you are no longer an individual bucking the system. [01:09:32.120 --> 01:09:39.120] Because if you educate all the people in your community, where are they going to pick a jury from? [01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:40.120] My community. [01:09:40.120 --> 01:09:41.120] Exactly. [01:09:41.120 --> 01:09:47.120] So you're going to have a bunch of people sitting in that jury box that finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. [01:09:47.120 --> 01:09:54.120] What do you think your chances of winning are then versus the blind ones that think state is all there is? [01:09:54.120 --> 01:09:58.120] And statism is God. [01:09:58.120 --> 01:09:59.120] Right. [01:09:59.120 --> 01:10:02.120] Doesn't exist. [01:10:02.120 --> 01:10:04.120] So you're on the right track. [01:10:04.120 --> 01:10:06.120] I can't argue with that at all. [01:10:06.120 --> 01:10:08.120] Educate everyone you can find. [01:10:08.120 --> 01:10:16.120] Do it in such a way that they want to learn rather than reject it out of hand because it interferes with their ability to suffer reality. [01:10:16.120 --> 01:10:20.120] And keep a camera on me at all times, right? [01:10:20.120 --> 01:10:21.120] You better believe it. [01:10:21.120 --> 01:10:24.120] And if possible, more than one. [01:10:24.120 --> 01:10:34.120] And the moment you realize in any way, shape, or form that you are even likely to have a public servant encounter of any kind, turn it on. [01:10:34.120 --> 01:10:36.120] Don't wait until it's in progress. [01:10:36.120 --> 01:10:40.120] Do it before it ever becomes an issue. [01:10:40.120 --> 01:10:44.120] Okay. [01:10:44.120 --> 01:10:46.120] All right. [01:10:46.120 --> 01:10:48.120] As soon as I listen, you know how it goes. [01:10:48.120 --> 01:10:49.120] All right. [01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:50.120] Please do. [01:10:50.120 --> 01:10:52.120] Keep us posted and be safe. [01:10:52.120 --> 01:10:53.120] Thank you. [01:10:53.120 --> 01:10:54.120] Yes, sir. [01:10:54.120 --> 01:10:55.120] All right. [01:10:55.120 --> 01:10:56.120] You have a good night. [01:10:56.120 --> 01:10:57.120] Yes, sir. [01:10:57.120 --> 01:10:58.120] All right. [01:10:58.120 --> 01:11:00.120] Now we're going to go to Roger in Washington. [01:11:00.120 --> 01:11:03.120] Roger, what can we do for you? [01:11:03.120 --> 01:11:04.120] Howdy, Eddie. [01:11:04.120 --> 01:11:06.120] It's good to talk to you again. [01:11:06.120 --> 01:11:16.120] A few weeks back, I requested some information from you and you sent it to me and it involved the Washington state driver license. [01:11:16.120 --> 01:11:25.120] And I went through it and it was very good, very good information. [01:11:25.120 --> 01:11:27.120] It all checked out. [01:11:27.120 --> 01:11:39.120] And what I determined I have, it was possibly a little out of date because my driver licenses, I renewed it two years ago. [01:11:39.120 --> 01:11:46.120] And mine still has on the back classes and endorsements. [01:11:46.120 --> 01:11:47.120] Right. [01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:54.120] It does not have the abbreviation for commercial. [01:11:54.120 --> 01:11:56.120] Where is it? [01:11:56.120 --> 01:11:59.120] All the classes are commercial. [01:11:59.120 --> 01:12:00.120] That is the endorsement. [01:12:00.120 --> 01:12:02.120] The class is the endorsement. [01:12:02.120 --> 01:12:03.120] Yes. [01:12:03.120 --> 01:12:07.120] Yes, but it doesn't have the CDL, EDN. [01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:10.120] It just... [01:12:10.120 --> 01:12:11.120] Yeah, but okay. [01:12:11.120 --> 01:12:14.120] Well, understand this part about your statutes. [01:12:14.120 --> 01:12:15.120] Okay. [01:12:15.120 --> 01:12:17.120] Understand this part while you're thinking about that. [01:12:17.120 --> 01:12:29.120] They may have changed the required info or format of the license, but they haven't changed the application of the statutes themselves. [01:12:29.120 --> 01:12:30.120] Right. [01:12:30.120 --> 01:12:39.120] So regardless of how they reformed the license, what the license pertains to hasn't changed. [01:12:39.120 --> 01:12:40.120] Right. [01:12:40.120 --> 01:12:41.120] It's still commercial. [01:12:41.120 --> 01:12:42.120] Correct. [01:12:42.120 --> 01:12:47.120] So mine reads class none and they weren't talking about me there. [01:12:47.120 --> 01:12:52.120] I have some class and they have endorsements none. [01:12:52.120 --> 01:13:04.120] So I have a driver as it says driver license that gives me the authority not to drive anything. [01:13:04.120 --> 01:13:08.120] So I just have basically a ID card. [01:13:08.120 --> 01:13:11.120] It's really what it boils down to. [01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:13.120] Yeah, that's entirely possible. [01:13:13.120 --> 01:13:14.120] So what does it... [01:13:14.120 --> 01:13:15.120] Got it at the bank. [01:13:15.120 --> 01:13:16.120] That's what they want. [01:13:16.120 --> 01:13:25.120] In the statutes for Washington, what does it say a license is required to have in relation to a class? [01:13:25.120 --> 01:13:35.120] Does it say it may have one of these classes or does it say it must have one of these classifications? [01:13:35.120 --> 01:13:38.120] You know, I don't think it does. [01:13:38.120 --> 01:13:40.120] That doesn't jump out at me. [01:13:40.120 --> 01:13:45.120] I've read through all that and it basically, like in your sheet... [01:13:45.120 --> 01:13:53.120] Well, no, wait a minute, but what it will say most likely is something very similar to Texas which should read something like, [01:13:53.120 --> 01:14:02.120] a license may have or shall have one of the following classifications will have, must have, whatever. [01:14:02.120 --> 01:14:07.120] And when it says may have one of these, it's got to have at least one of them. [01:14:07.120 --> 01:14:14.120] It can't be blank as you're pointing out because then it would be exactly what you're saying. [01:14:14.120 --> 01:14:19.120] It's a license that doesn't authorize you to operate anything. [01:14:19.120 --> 01:14:20.120] Yeah. [01:14:20.120 --> 01:14:25.120] Well, it says here, and I'm going off the information you sent me. [01:14:25.120 --> 01:14:30.120] I have looked at the RCW, but I can't recite it. [01:14:30.120 --> 01:14:37.120] The commercial driver's license must be marked commercial driver's license or CDL. [01:14:37.120 --> 01:14:43.120] And then below that, of course, license may be classified as follows. [01:14:43.120 --> 01:14:47.120] Class A, Class B, Class C. [01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:48.120] So it... [01:14:48.120 --> 01:14:49.120] Yeah, but okay. [01:14:49.120 --> 01:14:56.120] Well, the thing about it is, remember that a CDL and a driver's license, both are commercial. [01:14:56.120 --> 01:15:04.120] The difference normally is a CDL will only allow a person, only allow the operation of vehicles [01:15:04.120 --> 01:15:10.120] in excess of say 26,001 pounds, bearing a hazardous material placard, [01:15:10.120 --> 01:15:15.120] or carry 16 or more passengers, including the driver. [01:15:15.120 --> 01:15:23.120] That is the only difference between a CDL license and every other kind of license. [01:15:23.120 --> 01:15:24.120] Right. [01:15:24.120 --> 01:15:26.120] Well, they try the... [01:15:26.120 --> 01:15:34.120] When I questioned them on that, they try to tell me that this was a general license. [01:15:34.120 --> 01:15:39.120] But there's nothing there in the code that's, you know, like this title, [01:15:39.120 --> 01:15:44.120] labeled general license, general license A, B, you know, one thing or another like that. [01:15:44.120 --> 01:15:46.120] There's nothing like that in there. [01:15:46.120 --> 01:15:49.120] So the material you sent me is absolutely correct. [01:15:49.120 --> 01:15:58.120] This is the one and only place where RCW46 specifies the type of license and it's commercial. [01:15:58.120 --> 01:16:02.120] Yeah, and they can't tell you that it's a general type of license [01:16:02.120 --> 01:16:06.120] unless they can tell you what statute creates such a license. [01:16:06.120 --> 01:16:08.120] Yeah, and there is none. [01:16:08.120 --> 01:16:11.120] So, you know, you're 100% right. [01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:15.120] So, but, you know, they will try to wiggle around that. [01:16:15.120 --> 01:16:20.120] And they said, I said, well, the statute doesn't say anything about a general license. [01:16:20.120 --> 01:16:24.120] And she says, well, you're going to have to ask an attorney to... [01:16:24.120 --> 01:16:26.120] Yeah, that's the Pat answer. [01:16:26.120 --> 01:16:28.120] Ask an attorney. [01:16:28.120 --> 01:16:34.120] Well, why should I ask an attorney to find something that isn't there? [01:16:34.120 --> 01:16:35.120] Okay. [01:16:35.120 --> 01:16:39.120] My next thing has to do with the plates on a car. [01:16:39.120 --> 01:16:40.120] Okay. [01:16:40.120 --> 01:16:41.120] Well, hold on just a second, Roger. [01:16:41.120 --> 01:16:44.120] We're going to take a break and then we'll pick that question up on the other side. [01:16:44.120 --> 01:16:45.120] Okay? [01:16:45.120 --> 01:16:46.120] Okay. [01:16:46.120 --> 01:16:47.120] All right, folks. [01:16:47.120 --> 01:16:50.120] This is Rule of Law Radio, Monday Night Traffic Show. [01:16:50.120 --> 01:16:52.120] I'm your host, Eddie Craig, Rob, Josh, Terry. [01:16:52.120 --> 01:16:53.120] Y'all hang on. [01:16:53.120 --> 01:16:56.120] When I get done with Roger, I'll get y'all picked up and taken care of. [01:16:56.120 --> 01:17:25.120] We'll be right back. [01:17:26.120 --> 01:17:54.120] Thank you. [01:17:54.120 --> 01:18:20.120] Thank you. [01:18:20.120 --> 01:18:46.120] Thank you. [01:18:46.120 --> 01:19:12.120] Thank you. [01:19:12.120 --> 01:19:35.120] Hi, folks. [01:19:35.120 --> 01:19:36.120] We are back. [01:19:36.120 --> 01:19:38.120] We're talking to Roger in Washington. [01:19:38.120 --> 01:19:43.120] Roger, you said you had a question regarding plates on a car. [01:19:43.120 --> 01:19:48.120] Yes, some stuff about the lawn, some stuff that you've done personally. [01:19:48.120 --> 01:19:52.120] When you removed the plates from your car, what else did you do? [01:19:52.120 --> 01:19:53.120] Did you... [01:19:53.120 --> 01:19:57.120] I took off all of their stickers and everything else. [01:19:57.120 --> 01:20:02.120] Did you notify anyone, the court, the attorney general's secretary of state? [01:20:02.120 --> 01:20:03.120] Nope. [01:20:03.120 --> 01:20:06.120] The only other thing I did was with the title to the car. [01:20:06.120 --> 01:20:11.120] I sent it to the secretary of state asking for... [01:20:11.120 --> 01:20:16.120] Letting them know that I am removing the car from the jurisdiction of this state. [01:20:16.120 --> 01:20:18.120] I used exactly those words. [01:20:18.120 --> 01:20:22.120] I did not say the state of, I said this state. [01:20:22.120 --> 01:20:31.120] And I wish to know whether or not the state of has any claim or financial lien against the property. [01:20:31.120 --> 01:20:36.120] Get that response back, get a clear title back from the secretary of state. [01:20:36.120 --> 01:20:40.120] And from that point on, they're claiming they have no claim or title to the car. [01:20:40.120 --> 01:20:43.120] Well, then they can't be stopping it. [01:20:43.120 --> 01:20:46.120] They will send a clear title back. [01:20:46.120 --> 01:20:49.120] If the car isn't encumbered, yes. [01:20:49.120 --> 01:20:52.120] No, it's not encumbered. [01:20:52.120 --> 01:20:56.120] So, would I still send that back to them? [01:20:56.120 --> 01:21:00.120] You're going to send them back the title that you have? [01:21:00.120 --> 01:21:07.120] You get a certified copy of it by a county clerk or a notary first. [01:21:07.120 --> 01:21:15.120] But send the title back to the secretary of state and let them know that you intend to move the car from the jurisdiction of this state. [01:21:15.120 --> 01:21:23.120] And you need the secretary of state to declare that the state has no vested financial interest claim or title to the property. [01:21:23.120 --> 01:21:29.120] And acknowledge that it will be removed from the jurisdiction of this state. [01:21:29.120 --> 01:21:30.120] Okay. [01:21:30.120 --> 01:21:33.120] And see what they send you back. [01:21:33.120 --> 01:21:35.120] And you said secretary of state. [01:21:35.120 --> 01:21:37.120] Yes. [01:21:37.120 --> 01:21:41.120] Okay. [01:21:41.120 --> 01:21:44.120] Okay, are you familiar with David Myerlin? [01:21:44.120 --> 01:21:45.120] Myerlin. [01:21:45.120 --> 01:21:46.120] Myerlin. [01:21:46.120 --> 01:21:47.120] David Myerlin. [01:21:47.120 --> 01:21:48.120] Myerlin. [01:21:48.120 --> 01:21:49.120] Myerlin. [01:21:49.120 --> 01:21:50.120] Myerlin. [01:21:50.120 --> 01:21:51.120] Myerlin. [01:21:51.120 --> 01:21:52.120] Myerlin. [01:21:52.120 --> 01:21:53.120] Myerlin. [01:21:53.120 --> 01:21:54.120] I'm familiar. [01:21:54.120 --> 01:21:56.120] I know who he is. [01:21:56.120 --> 01:22:06.120] I watched a video on YouTube called Public Vehicle Travel. [01:22:06.120 --> 01:22:09.120] I think there's a subtitle to it. [01:22:09.120 --> 01:22:17.120] But he goes into both the driver license and the tag and registration. [01:22:17.120 --> 01:22:21.120] And he makes an excellent, excellent case. [01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:29.120] He just bought my renewal tag for the year Friday. [01:22:29.120 --> 01:22:32.120] And it was due to be replaced on Saturday. [01:22:32.120 --> 01:22:34.120] I've not put it on my car yet. [01:22:34.120 --> 01:22:38.120] I don't intend to. [01:22:38.120 --> 01:22:42.120] But he goes into it and it's really, he makes it really clear. [01:22:42.120 --> 01:22:50.120] And I mean, he backs it up with statutes and Supreme Court rulings and on and on. [01:22:50.120 --> 01:22:55.120] It's a 26-page brief with all this. [01:22:55.120 --> 01:22:58.120] And it's on the Internet on YouTube. [01:22:58.120 --> 01:23:02.120] It's called Public Vehicle Travel. [01:23:02.120 --> 01:23:08.120] And throughout it, I mean, the state law in Washington, throughout it, and he showed [01:23:08.120 --> 01:23:17.120] other states, says the same thing, that how does he, it says, shift from definitions. [01:23:17.120 --> 01:23:20.120] Let me, let me get to the right page here. [01:23:20.120 --> 01:23:21.120] Okay. [01:23:21.120 --> 01:23:31.120] It says, in the state of Washington, open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel. [01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:38.120] This is, you know, every way lane road, you know, every highway you can think of. [01:23:38.120 --> 01:23:39.120] Right. [01:23:39.120 --> 01:23:45.120] In the state of Washington is open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel. [01:23:45.120 --> 01:23:48.120] Now the state can't issue you a right. [01:23:48.120 --> 01:23:52.120] But yet what they're doing is they're trying to make you believe, just like they did with [01:23:52.120 --> 01:23:57.120] the income tax, that you no longer have any rights. [01:23:57.120 --> 01:23:59.120] But so therefore you have to pay them. [01:23:59.120 --> 01:24:05.120] Well, what they're trying to say is that you're exercising a privilege rather than the right. [01:24:05.120 --> 01:24:06.120] Right. [01:24:06.120 --> 01:24:12.120] And the only way they can do that is convert you into acting commercially, which is a privilege [01:24:12.120 --> 01:24:20.120] right as use of the roads versus privately, which is a matter of right use of the roads. [01:24:20.120 --> 01:24:22.120] Exactly. [01:24:22.120 --> 01:24:28.120] And there's one statement he made in this 36 page explanation. [01:24:28.120 --> 01:24:35.120] I mean, really strongly backed up with, like I say, Supreme Court rulings and state statutes. [01:24:35.120 --> 01:24:51.120] He said something to the effect that however, all other vehicle code statutes apply, but [01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:59.120] how can that be if all those statutes are written for commercial use of the roads? [01:24:59.120 --> 01:25:00.120] It can't. [01:25:00.120 --> 01:25:06.120] The only thing that can apply is any statute that is meant to protect the rights of a person [01:25:06.120 --> 01:25:08.120] from intrusion by another. [01:25:08.120 --> 01:25:14.120] And you have penal statutes for that, not the vehicle code. [01:25:14.120 --> 01:25:15.120] Okay. [01:25:15.120 --> 01:25:18.120] So correct me if I'm wrong. [01:25:18.120 --> 01:25:22.120] Parking meters, how can they be legitimate? [01:25:22.120 --> 01:25:25.120] Because the streets, well, here's the deal. [01:25:25.120 --> 01:25:33.120] The courts ruled long ago that the public streets cannot be seized for private use for extended [01:25:33.120 --> 01:25:34.120] periods of time. [01:25:34.120 --> 01:25:40.120] So the reason that was brought about was because people were setting up booze and everything [01:25:40.120 --> 01:25:45.120] else, even though they were mobile, they were setting them up on spots on the street and [01:25:45.120 --> 01:25:46.120] never moving them. [01:25:46.120 --> 01:25:49.120] So they began obstructing traffic and so on and so forth. [01:25:49.120 --> 01:25:55.120] So the litigation came about that they were taking public property for private use and [01:25:55.120 --> 01:25:57.120] they can't do that. [01:25:57.120 --> 01:25:59.120] And that's true. [01:25:59.120 --> 01:26:05.120] But the problem here becomes when they start trying to charge you to park on a street that [01:26:05.120 --> 01:26:10.120] has been specifically designated for parking by the public. [01:26:10.120 --> 01:26:16.120] Because in the days of the original litigation, there were no marked off parking spots. [01:26:16.120 --> 01:26:23.120] The entire width of the road was for vehicular traffic and conveyance traffic. [01:26:23.120 --> 01:26:26.120] It was not for stationary anything. [01:26:26.120 --> 01:26:32.120] Nowadays, you have these cities where they've marked off parking spaces and they put parking [01:26:32.120 --> 01:26:33.120] meters on them. [01:26:33.120 --> 01:26:36.120] Well, the street is still public. [01:26:36.120 --> 01:26:38.120] The parking space is still public. [01:26:38.120 --> 01:26:40.120] The public's still paid for it. [01:26:40.120 --> 01:26:46.120] You can't continue to charge the public a fee to park there, but you can certainly charge [01:26:46.120 --> 01:26:53.120] any business owner that's doing deliveries and things like that to a location that has [01:26:53.120 --> 01:26:58.120] to park their cars on the street to go do that. [01:26:58.120 --> 01:27:02.120] So once again, if you're involved in commerce, you pay the meter. [01:27:02.120 --> 01:27:03.120] If not, you don't. [01:27:03.120 --> 01:27:04.120] Exactly. [01:27:04.120 --> 01:27:05.120] Same thing on a toll road. [01:27:05.120 --> 01:27:09.120] If you're involved in commerce, you have to pay the toll. [01:27:09.120 --> 01:27:16.120] If they use one penny of public funds to build that tollway, that toll road rightfully belongs [01:27:16.120 --> 01:27:21.120] to the public for their rightful use and they can't keep charging them for it, they've already [01:27:21.120 --> 01:27:24.120] paid for it. [01:27:24.120 --> 01:27:34.120] Yeah, I think I saw one toll bridge or road that the toll was actually removed and it [01:27:34.120 --> 01:27:38.120] was like 20 or 30 years after completion of the road. [01:27:38.120 --> 01:27:43.120] It's really a ripoff, but at least one of them I can say happened. [01:27:43.120 --> 01:27:54.120] One other thing, this was some time ago I heard Debra mention a place where you can get a plate [01:27:54.120 --> 01:27:55.120] made for your car. [01:27:55.120 --> 01:27:59.120] You can go online and get any plate made you want. [01:27:59.120 --> 01:28:02.120] Yeah, but she mentioned the Embassy of Heaven. [01:28:02.120 --> 01:28:04.120] I thought that was neat. [01:28:04.120 --> 01:28:09.120] Yeah, there's lots of people that are getting plates from that particular venue. [01:28:09.120 --> 01:28:11.120] Yes. [01:28:11.120 --> 01:28:17.120] It seemed like really he does it the same way that the state does it. [01:28:17.120 --> 01:28:31.120] You send him a title and he sends back another title from the Embassy of Heaven and everything [01:28:31.120 --> 01:28:33.120] about it is just like the state. [01:28:33.120 --> 01:28:39.120] Yeah, except for the fact that it doesn't actually exist as an official source, therefore they [01:28:39.120 --> 01:28:42.120] can't charge you with it being a fraudulent plate. [01:28:42.120 --> 01:28:48.120] Believe it or not, a good friend of mine, Robert James Fox, set federal case law precedent [01:28:48.120 --> 01:28:53.120] on that fact when they tried to charge him with a false and fictitious plate here in [01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:54.120] Texas. [01:28:54.120 --> 01:28:57.120] He took it to federal court and he won and he set precedent. [01:28:57.120 --> 01:29:04.120] You cannot have a fake and fictitious place from a place that doesn't exist. [01:29:04.120 --> 01:29:07.120] That's the way the federal judge saw it. [01:29:07.120 --> 01:29:13.120] Well, I have to find out more about the Embassy of Heaven because basically what if this guy [01:29:13.120 --> 01:29:16.120] dies, okay, then what? [01:29:16.120 --> 01:29:23.120] Yeah, well, the other problem there is whoever possesses that actual title from the state [01:29:23.120 --> 01:29:29.120] will be the one that actually can go to the state and say, hey, I actually own that car. [01:29:29.120 --> 01:29:35.120] Legally speaking, they may not be the equitable owner, but they are the legal owner on that [01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:36.120] document. [01:29:36.120 --> 01:29:41.120] What's he doing with that document after you send it in and he generates a new document? [01:29:41.120 --> 01:29:44.120] That would be my question first. [01:29:44.120 --> 01:29:46.120] You mean the title though? [01:29:46.120 --> 01:29:48.120] Yes, the title you send in. [01:29:48.120 --> 01:29:50.120] Okay, hang on just a minute. [01:29:50.120 --> 01:29:53.120] We're going to go to break and then we'll be right back and I have to finish up with [01:29:53.120 --> 01:29:55.120] you, Roger, so I can get these other callers, okay? 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[01:32:46.120 --> 01:32:47.120] Because I'm you. [01:32:47.120 --> 01:33:13.120] You're out of shape and I need a better looking future. [01:33:13.120 --> 01:33:35.120] You're out of shape and I need a better looking future. [01:33:35.120 --> 01:33:36.120] Hi folks. [01:33:36.120 --> 01:33:37.120] We are back. [01:33:37.120 --> 01:33:44.120] We're still talking with Roger in Washington. [01:33:44.120 --> 01:33:46.120] Roger, let's wrap this up shall we? [01:33:46.120 --> 01:33:47.120] Okay. [01:33:47.120 --> 01:33:51.120] Apparently what his website says is that he notifies the state that he receives a title [01:33:51.120 --> 01:34:04.120] from that the vehicle has been placed in the jurisdiction of the Embassy of Heaven and [01:34:04.120 --> 01:34:07.120] it's no longer in that state that it came from. [01:34:07.120 --> 01:34:08.120] Okay. [01:34:08.120 --> 01:34:15.120] But again, again when say he dies I don't know what his structure is or what. [01:34:15.120 --> 01:34:25.120] Well if it's set up as a trust as long as there's a continued administration of the trust there shouldn't be anything as long as the administrator doesn't dissolve it. [01:34:25.120 --> 01:34:29.120] Provided the administrator has the power to dissolve it. [01:34:29.120 --> 01:34:30.120] So I don't know. [01:34:30.120 --> 01:34:33.120] You might want to write him and find out. [01:34:33.120 --> 01:34:36.120] Yeah, I have to do some follow up work on that. [01:34:36.120 --> 01:34:47.120] But if it isn't to my advantage or if the possibilities like that could exist that the trust has dissolved or whatever that would be more headaches. [01:34:47.120 --> 01:34:58.120] So if I just write the Secretary of State and say, you know, taking it out of the jurisdiction of this state. [01:34:58.120 --> 01:35:02.120] Yeah, that's basically what he's doing for you. [01:35:02.120 --> 01:35:03.120] Yes. [01:35:03.120 --> 01:35:04.120] Yes. [01:35:04.120 --> 01:35:19.120] And you know, by the way, reading the code as I did over the weekend, you and Harmon Taylor really, I think Harmon was the first one I heard say this about in this state. [01:35:19.120 --> 01:35:24.120] And the code here in Washington says that and it also says of this state. [01:35:24.120 --> 01:35:32.120] And when they use that term in this state, it's clearly in the commercial area. [01:35:32.120 --> 01:35:44.120] And when they say something else in reference to the state, they'll say Washington state, like for example, like in any section that say in when traveling in Washington state. [01:35:44.120 --> 01:35:45.120] Right. [01:35:45.120 --> 01:35:50.120] But they don't say in this state when they're speaking to that. [01:35:50.120 --> 01:35:57.120] So there again is another subtle example of how they're playing word art games. [01:35:57.120 --> 01:35:59.120] Yeah, that's all they're doing. [01:35:59.120 --> 01:36:00.120] That's all they've ever done. [01:36:00.120 --> 01:36:03.120] That's all a statute is is word art games. [01:36:03.120 --> 01:36:07.120] It's legal semantics disguised as language. [01:36:07.120 --> 01:36:19.120] And in the information you sent me, an area that I was aware of but really haven't read a lot of is the WAC code, the Washington administrative code. [01:36:19.120 --> 01:36:25.120] And you can read all through the RCW and you'll never see it. [01:36:25.120 --> 01:36:29.120] But you go to that WAC 308 100 210. [01:36:29.120 --> 01:36:34.120] And it says in there that people that are driving. [01:36:34.120 --> 01:36:47.120] And when I say driving, I'm not speaking about they actually say driving and they say when they're talking about commercial in Washington state, they'll say motor vehicle for sure. [01:36:47.120 --> 01:36:53.120] But if you say vehicle, they're not talking about the same thing and you can you can demonstrate that and they're worried. [01:36:53.120 --> 01:37:09.120] But you go to the WAC code and in the WAC code, it definitely says primarily to the you know, they're talking about the vehicle description primarily designed for recreational camping or travel use. [01:37:09.120 --> 01:37:13.120] So they're making a distinction there. [01:37:13.120 --> 01:37:17.120] Three distinctions between that and commercial. [01:37:17.120 --> 01:37:19.120] Exactly. [01:37:19.120 --> 01:37:24.120] So, I mean, but the point I was going to make was how that that faked me out. [01:37:24.120 --> 01:37:38.120] I, you know, I wouldn't have thought to find that in the WAC code because when I found out what the WAC code was originally, I thought, oh, well, that's an administration statute for telling the government how they have to do their job. [01:37:38.120 --> 01:37:43.120] So I didn't pay attention to it, but but there it is. There's just clear as a bell right there. [01:37:43.120 --> 01:37:44.120] Yep. [01:37:44.120 --> 01:37:45.120] So that's good. [01:37:45.120 --> 01:37:51.120] Yeah, there are there are lots of states that have it spelled out in plain English if you can find the statute that does it. [01:37:51.120 --> 01:37:53.120] And Washington is very, very clear. [01:37:53.120 --> 01:37:56.120] It's one of the places that actually is. [01:37:56.120 --> 01:38:10.120] You know, I've read some of Idaho's because I'm in Idaho from time to time and their code amazed me how close they come to say an outright that you don't have to have a driver's license to just, you know, travel. [01:38:10.120 --> 01:38:12.120] Right. [01:38:12.120 --> 01:38:18.120] From what I've read of it, I know Washington's much better, but Idaho look real good. [01:38:18.120 --> 01:38:21.120] Well, I think that should do it for now. [01:38:21.120 --> 01:38:29.120] On my plates tomorrow, I made a little sign that goes on the back of my window that says not for hire. [01:38:29.120 --> 01:38:33.120] And that's that we'll see what happens. [01:38:33.120 --> 01:38:35.120] Well, good luck, Roger. [01:38:35.120 --> 01:38:36.120] Okay, thank you. [01:38:36.120 --> 01:38:37.120] You're welcome. [01:38:37.120 --> 01:38:38.120] All right. [01:38:38.120 --> 01:38:40.120] Now we're going to go to Rob in Illinois. [01:38:40.120 --> 01:38:42.120] Rob, what do you got? [01:38:42.120 --> 01:38:44.120] Hi, Eddie. [01:38:44.120 --> 01:38:48.120] I have just two quick questions for you. [01:38:48.120 --> 01:39:00.120] I've contacted two states so far and they're claiming that there are no charters for any of the minute municipalities for that state for the towns and villages on there. [01:39:00.120 --> 01:39:02.120] And that's Indiana and Maine. [01:39:02.120 --> 01:39:04.120] Illinois has the charters. [01:39:04.120 --> 01:39:06.120] I'm getting my hands on those. [01:39:06.120 --> 01:39:19.120] Well, what would be my next step when the secretary of state's office at the archives department says there are no charter exists for the municipality? [01:39:19.120 --> 01:39:24.120] Well, what does what are the legal requirements of a municipality? [01:39:24.120 --> 01:39:29.120] For instance, here in Texas, a general law municipality doesn't have a separate charter. [01:39:29.120 --> 01:39:33.120] Its charter is entirely statutory from the legislature. [01:39:33.120 --> 01:39:35.120] There is no separate charter. [01:39:35.120 --> 01:39:42.120] Only a home rule city has to have a charter. [01:39:42.120 --> 01:39:45.120] Okay. [01:39:45.120 --> 01:39:46.120] All right. [01:39:46.120 --> 01:39:48.120] I'll look into that. [01:39:48.120 --> 01:40:00.120] You have to figure out what types of municipalities state law authorizes and then how each of those municipalities is governed and what paperwork is required to make it such. [01:40:00.120 --> 01:40:07.120] Is this to be a declaration of or is there a charter required because? [01:40:07.120 --> 01:40:15.120] Because there has to be some sort of documentation with the state legislature and the state government proving that this municipality even exists. [01:40:15.120 --> 01:40:18.120] Well, again, all the, not necessarily. [01:40:18.120 --> 01:40:24.120] The articles of incorporation are not the same as a city charter. [01:40:24.120 --> 01:40:27.120] They're not the same thing. [01:40:27.120 --> 01:40:34.120] A city charter is something developed by the city itself if it's required to have one. [01:40:34.120 --> 01:40:46.120] The articles of incorporation are what's required by state law to recognize that municipality as a subset of state government in certain instances. [01:40:46.120 --> 01:40:48.120] There are two different sets of paperwork. [01:40:48.120 --> 01:40:52.120] Don't confuse the two. [01:40:52.120 --> 01:40:53.120] Okay. [01:40:53.120 --> 01:40:56.120] Because I had received their articles of incorporation. [01:40:56.120 --> 01:41:03.120] After that, then that's the legal notice that it exists provided it's proper and complies with law. [01:41:03.120 --> 01:41:09.120] After that, it's a matter of what type of governmental management does it have. [01:41:09.120 --> 01:41:13.120] That's when you may or may not require a charter. [01:41:13.120 --> 01:41:14.120] Okay. [01:41:14.120 --> 01:41:18.120] Because I'm finding out that these are managerial forms of government. [01:41:18.120 --> 01:41:40.120] In Texas, any home rule municipality is a commissioner, manager form of government, which is not a Republican form of government, which would make that government illegitimate when applied to the people because it's not recognized as being applicable to the people. [01:41:40.120 --> 01:41:44.120] That would be my argument against it in court anyway. [01:41:44.120 --> 01:41:45.120] Right. [01:41:45.120 --> 01:41:51.120] The other question I have is about moving a case from state court to federal court. [01:41:51.120 --> 01:41:55.120] You can only do it if there's a federal question or write involved. [01:41:55.120 --> 01:41:59.120] Okay. [01:41:59.120 --> 01:42:00.120] All right. [01:42:00.120 --> 01:42:02.120] Because I'm helping out a friend with that. [01:42:02.120 --> 01:42:03.120] All right. [01:42:03.120 --> 01:42:04.120] I'll let her know. [01:42:04.120 --> 01:42:08.120] And also, have you read the book Digest of the Divine Law? [01:42:08.120 --> 01:42:09.120] No. [01:42:09.120 --> 01:42:10.120] Have you ever heard of that one? [01:42:10.120 --> 01:42:11.120] No. [01:42:11.120 --> 01:42:12.120] Okay. [01:42:12.120 --> 01:42:14.120] It is by Howard. [01:42:14.120 --> 01:42:16.120] I got it right here in front of me. [01:42:16.120 --> 01:42:17.120] It's Howard Rand. [01:42:17.120 --> 01:42:19.120] Oh, it's a good read, Eddie. [01:42:19.120 --> 01:42:21.120] It's right up your alley. [01:42:21.120 --> 01:42:23.120] In fact, if you want, I'll send you a copy of it. [01:42:23.120 --> 01:42:31.120] It was written, I think, in 1942, and it explains what the law is and how it all came into being and everything. [01:42:31.120 --> 01:42:35.120] Also, there's another book called The Law by Frederick Beth J. [01:42:35.120 --> 01:42:36.120] That I have. [01:42:36.120 --> 01:42:37.120] Have you ever heard of that one? [01:42:37.120 --> 01:42:38.120] Yes. [01:42:38.120 --> 01:42:39.120] I have that. [01:42:39.120 --> 01:42:40.120] Okay. [01:42:40.120 --> 01:42:41.120] I read that. [01:42:41.120 --> 01:42:45.120] I also have all of Lord Coke's or Cook's books. [01:42:45.120 --> 01:42:47.120] It's Coke, but it's spelled Cook. [01:42:47.120 --> 01:42:51.120] But yeah, I have all of his books on it as well. [01:42:51.120 --> 01:42:52.120] All right. [01:42:52.120 --> 01:42:57.120] Because the book Digest of the Divine Law goes hand in hand with the other book, The Law [01:42:57.120 --> 01:42:59.120] by Frederick Beth J. [01:42:59.120 --> 01:43:02.120] And it will answer a lot of questions that people have. [01:43:02.120 --> 01:43:05.120] So I'm just boning up on all my books right now. [01:43:05.120 --> 01:43:09.120] I just finished The Kingdom of God in Perspective by Charles Weisman. [01:43:09.120 --> 01:43:11.120] So there you have it. [01:43:11.120 --> 01:43:13.120] We're moving along here, Eddie. [01:43:13.120 --> 01:43:18.120] We're going to restore the kingdom on earth because God put it in our hands. [01:43:18.120 --> 01:43:20.120] Well, we've got to do something. [01:43:20.120 --> 01:43:21.120] Hook, line, or sinker. [01:43:21.120 --> 01:43:22.120] We've got to do something. [01:43:22.120 --> 01:43:23.120] Right. [01:43:23.120 --> 01:43:26.120] Because everybody's saying all the aliens are going to help us. [01:43:26.120 --> 01:43:28.120] All these other things, no. [01:43:28.120 --> 01:43:34.120] We have to step up to the plate and swing better because nobody else is coming to our rescue. [01:43:34.120 --> 01:43:35.120] Yep. [01:43:35.120 --> 01:43:36.120] All right, Robbie. [01:43:36.120 --> 01:43:37.120] Anything else? [01:43:37.120 --> 01:43:38.120] I know, Eddie. [01:43:38.120 --> 01:43:42.120] You have me on and I'll see you next week. [01:43:42.120 --> 01:43:43.120] All right. [01:43:43.120 --> 01:43:44.120] Well, thanks for calling. 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I got a little situation that I'm not real familiar with, [01:46:42.120 --> 01:46:51.120] and that is my wife just got arrested for a DWI Saturday night. [01:46:51.120 --> 01:47:03.120] Now, she knows what my philosophy is as far as driving and traveling and things like that, [01:47:03.120 --> 01:47:10.120] so she got pulled over. We're just north of Houston, so it's a little area, [01:47:10.120 --> 01:47:18.120] but we got a real big festival out here, and I wasn't with her when she got pulled over, [01:47:18.120 --> 01:47:25.120] but she had just left our house about 10 minutes prior, and she was totally okay. [01:47:25.120 --> 01:47:29.120] Now, she does take some medication for a couple of herniated discs and things like that, [01:47:29.120 --> 01:47:36.120] but the bottom line is she got pulled over for making a wide right turn in a truck [01:47:36.120 --> 01:47:46.120] that didn't have any power steering, and she's had a couple of DWIs before years and years ago. [01:47:46.120 --> 01:47:53.120] I don't know really at this point how to proceed. [01:47:53.120 --> 01:47:58.120] Okay. First off, what did she consent to when she got stopped? [01:47:58.120 --> 01:48:07.120] Oh, well, everything. Everything. I didn't ask if she gave her her license, [01:48:07.120 --> 01:48:09.120] but I'm pretty sure she did. [01:48:09.120 --> 01:48:12.120] Did she take a field sobriety test? [01:48:12.120 --> 01:48:19.120] Oh, yeah. She did the stupid human tricks. She had consented to a blood test and all of this. [01:48:19.120 --> 01:48:25.120] Now, she had not drank anything, and I'm 100% positive on that, [01:48:25.120 --> 01:48:29.120] and like I said, she was 100% okay when she left here. [01:48:29.120 --> 01:48:38.120] She does take medication. She said when I talked to her, she said that she failed the eye test, [01:48:38.120 --> 01:48:43.120] which after doing a little bit of study is the horizontal gaze. [01:48:43.120 --> 01:48:46.120] Yeah, horizontal stigma test. [01:48:46.120 --> 01:48:52.120] Yeah, and I know exactly what that is at this point and all of that. [01:48:52.120 --> 01:48:59.120] Now, I don't know what other test she took. I do know she took the walk and turn and to stand on one leg. [01:48:59.120 --> 01:49:03.120] I don't know if she passed or failed that. [01:49:03.120 --> 01:49:10.120] Basically, what I'm asking you is as a third party and a non-lawyer, [01:49:10.120 --> 01:49:19.120] is there any way for me to get access to the videotape and other pertinent information in her case? [01:49:19.120 --> 01:49:24.120] No. She's going to have to file a motion for discovery and get it. [01:49:24.120 --> 01:49:30.120] You can also file a public information request, but as long as her case is ongoing, they're going to deny you access to it. [01:49:30.120 --> 01:49:32.120] They're going to try to deny her access to it. [01:49:32.120 --> 01:49:41.120] That was the very first thing I did six hours into it and that's exactly what they said is with the non-going case, they're going to... [01:49:41.120 --> 01:49:47.120] Yeah, they cannot deny it to the person that's accused. [01:49:47.120 --> 01:49:55.120] They can deny it to anyone else, but they cannot deny it to the person that's accused because they're seeking it for evidentiary purposes. [01:49:55.120 --> 01:50:06.120] And when the information request specifically states that, that they are the person being accused in this case and they are seeking the information for evidentiary purposes, [01:50:06.120 --> 01:50:09.120] then they cannot deny it, but they do it anyway. [01:50:09.120 --> 01:50:20.120] That's okay. Keep documenting that and keep documenting that the Attorney General keeps letting them do it because those are due process violations on top of everything else. [01:50:20.120 --> 01:50:27.120] Then go ahead and file a Brady motion for discovery. [01:50:27.120 --> 01:50:33.120] So I need to have her request all the evidence basically. [01:50:33.120 --> 01:50:45.120] While stating in the request that she is the person being accused in the matter and is seeking the information for the purpose of her defense as exculpatory evidence, [01:50:45.120 --> 01:51:00.120] then if they deny it, she's got to claim against them for it, but at the same time, a couple of days after, file a motion, a Brady motion for discovery and make sure you file it through the court. [01:51:00.120 --> 01:51:03.120] Now, are you telling me to do that or she... [01:51:03.120 --> 01:51:06.120] Well, help her get it ready to, but she's got to have her name on it. [01:51:06.120 --> 01:51:12.120] If she's got an attorney, then you're not going to file anything and neither is she. [01:51:12.120 --> 01:51:17.120] Yeah. Well, as it stands right now, we're only 40 hours into it. [01:51:17.120 --> 01:51:19.120] Then immediately file a Brady motion. [01:51:19.120 --> 01:51:25.120] Immediately file a Brady motion along with the public information request from herself. [01:51:25.120 --> 01:51:33.120] Okay. So I can go ahead and prepare that, and I would imagine the only way to get that to her would be to mail it to her. [01:51:33.120 --> 01:51:37.120] I can't go in there and say, I'm an attorney and need to pass her something. [01:51:37.120 --> 01:51:41.120] She's still in jail right now, so I mean, I can't... [01:51:41.120 --> 01:51:51.120] Well, you can send her the paperwork and all she's got to do is sign it, but you really want to do it in front of a notary, though I don't know if they can get a notary at the jail for a verified pleading, [01:51:51.120 --> 01:51:55.120] but you want to try to do everything in the form of a verified pleading. [01:51:55.120 --> 01:52:00.120] If you're 40 hours into this, why has Bond not been posted as she got now? [01:52:00.120 --> 01:52:10.120] Well, Bond has been set at $15,000, and that's just not something that we can come up with at this point. [01:52:10.120 --> 01:52:13.120] Okay. Did you go to a bondsman? [01:52:13.120 --> 01:52:23.120] Yeah. Yeah. We went to a bondsman and they said, you know, we can put up 10% in our house and a couple of cars and, you know, things like that is collateral. [01:52:23.120 --> 01:52:36.120] But, you know, as much as I'd like to get her out, if we have to hire an attorney on me, you know, just to help her out through this mess, [01:52:36.120 --> 01:52:42.120] then we're going to need all the money we can get for that. [01:52:42.120 --> 01:52:52.120] Well, make sure your Brady motion includes the result of any blood test or breathalyzer. Make sure it demands all of that. [01:52:52.120 --> 01:53:00.120] And that's one other thing I wanted to talk to you about, because I know you probably have a little bit of experience with the blood test. [01:53:00.120 --> 01:53:06.120] I'm 100% confident she didn't drink at all. She doesn't hardly drink. [01:53:06.120 --> 01:53:11.120] Well, you have to remember something. DUI is not limited to alcohol. [01:53:11.120 --> 01:53:12.120] No. Okay. [01:53:12.120 --> 01:53:17.120] I know, but I wanted to ask how it works for, you know, prescription drugs. [01:53:17.120 --> 01:53:29.120] If you read the statute, prescription is an affirmative defense. Provided the prescription does not state that you are not to operate any type of car or heavy equipment while under its influence. [01:53:29.120 --> 01:53:39.120] Well, except for at the end of it, it says after knowing how the initial reaction is. [01:53:39.120 --> 01:53:49.120] And she's been on the same medications for a year and a half. Ironically, since we got hit by a driver running from the police and had our car totaled. [01:53:49.120 --> 01:53:59.120] So I'm pretty familiar with that statute. And I can say that she was operating. [01:53:59.120 --> 01:54:06.120] Well, she gave her license to the police officer. So I can say she was operating under the influence of these drugs. [01:54:06.120 --> 01:54:12.120] However, I can't say that it actually affected her. [01:54:12.120 --> 01:54:23.120] But that's what I'm saying. That is not a valid statement if it's a prescription medicine and the prescription does not prohibit her ability to get behind the wheel of a car. [01:54:23.120 --> 01:54:33.120] She is not under the influence of anything if she's got a prescription for it and it does not require her to not get behind the wheel. [01:54:33.120 --> 01:54:34.120] Okay. [01:54:34.120 --> 01:54:41.120] That is what's known as an affirmative defense. It's written into the statute that way. [01:54:41.120 --> 01:54:54.120] Okay. So as far as the blood test goes, we don't have anything to worry about that as long as the drugs that come up in that is what she has prescription for and can show reason. [01:54:54.120 --> 01:55:08.120] Correct. She also wouldn't hurt to get a note from her doctor stating very clearly that these medications have the potential to affect her eye stigmas after long term use or whatever. [01:55:08.120 --> 01:55:09.120] Yeah. [01:55:09.120 --> 01:55:17.120] They do not in any way impair her ability to actually get behind the wheel because she's been on them for X years. [01:55:17.120 --> 01:55:19.120] Okay. All right. [01:55:19.120 --> 01:55:24.120] But as a third party, there's really not much I can do besides prepare. [01:55:24.120 --> 01:55:34.120] You can get all the paperwork ready. You can go to the doctor and get the information if they're allowed to give you her medical information and so on and so forth. [01:55:34.120 --> 01:55:41.120] But if she signs a medical power of attorney and things like that, you can certainly do. [01:55:41.120 --> 01:55:46.120] So you need to get all that stuff prepared and ready. Take it down there. Have her sign all of it. [01:55:46.120 --> 01:55:50.120] Then go get her medical information from the doctor relating to that prescription. [01:55:50.120 --> 01:55:52.120] Prepare for this. [01:55:52.120 --> 01:55:53.120] Have it all ready. [01:55:53.120 --> 01:56:02.120] Even if she gets an attorney, you can dump it in his lap and say, here, use this to help her or I will hurt you through bar grievances. [01:56:02.120 --> 01:56:10.120] That was going to be the next question that I had is the attorney on me that I talked to earlier today. [01:56:10.120 --> 01:56:22.120] She told me, she said, if you guys are in a position to get a court appointed attorney, talk to him, find out who it is, and then call me and let me know. [01:56:22.120 --> 01:56:31.120] She said she would tell me whether or not he was going to fight the case or just pretty much agree with the court. [01:56:31.120 --> 01:56:37.120] Well, that's exactly why you need to make sure that if you get a public defender, you let them know right up front. [01:56:37.120 --> 01:56:43.120] I will bar grieve you for everything you fail to do to protect her rights and interests. [01:56:43.120 --> 01:56:45.120] And she will bar grieve you as well. [01:56:45.120 --> 01:56:50.120] And I would absolutely do that. Is that the only recourse I have? [01:56:50.120 --> 01:56:54.120] No, you can sue him for malpractice after the fact. [01:56:54.120 --> 01:56:59.120] You can sue him for malpractice after the fact if you can show that he waived rights he should not have waived. [01:56:59.120 --> 01:57:03.120] That's called ineffective assistance of counsel and it is actionable. [01:57:03.120 --> 01:57:12.120] It is also reason for an appeal and overturning of the verdict and a new trial. [01:57:12.120 --> 01:57:14.120] Well, that's what I was looking for. [01:57:14.120 --> 01:57:25.120] So pretty much the thing that I'm worried about is, you know, he or she getting kind of pissed off and annoyed with me. [01:57:25.120 --> 01:57:31.120] Well, that's irrelevant whether they get any of that or not. It's completely irrelevant. [01:57:31.120 --> 01:57:37.120] You as the spouse have the right to demand that they do everything in accordance with the law to protect your wife. [01:57:37.120 --> 01:57:46.120] Okay, and that's what I wanted to know is as a spouse would I have the right to fire and request a new one or would that have to be done? [01:57:46.120 --> 01:57:51.120] She would have to do that. She has to do that. [01:57:51.120 --> 01:57:55.120] Alright, well, I'm not going to keep you through another segment, but... [01:57:55.120 --> 01:57:57.120] There isn't another segment. [01:57:57.120 --> 01:58:00.120] Okay, well, hey, great show. [01:58:00.120 --> 01:58:02.120] Alright, thank you, sir. 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