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[00:09.000 --> 00:13.000]  I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Thursday, August 7, 2014.
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[00:34.000 --> 00:38.000]  In the news, Jacob Lovaro's case inspired another rally yesterday
[00:38.000 --> 00:41.000]  in front of the Williamson County courthouse
[00:41.000 --> 00:44.000]  where supporters gathered in solidarity of the 19-year-old
[00:44.000 --> 00:46.000]  facing a life sentence for pot brownies.
[00:46.000 --> 00:50.000]  Robert Butler organized a press conference with Drew Fox News,
[00:50.000 --> 00:53.000]  the Austin American Statesman, and the Liberty Beat.
[00:53.000 --> 00:56.000]  Butler presented the signatures of over 240,000 people
[00:56.000 --> 00:59.000]  who signed a petition in support of Lovaro,
[00:59.000 --> 01:01.000]  who is facing a first-degree felony charge,
[01:01.000 --> 01:05.000]  which in the state of Texas is 20 years to life in prison.
[01:05.000 --> 01:10.000]  Indictment is set for August 16.
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[03:22.000 --> 03:27.000]  Whatcha gonna do?
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[03:36.000 --> 03:38.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:38.000 --> 03:41.000]  When you were eight and you had bad traits
[03:41.000 --> 03:44.000]  We'll go to school and learn the golden rule
[03:44.000 --> 03:47.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:47.000 --> 03:49.000]  And if you get fucked then you must get cool
[03:49.000 --> 03:52.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:52.000 --> 03:54.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:54.000 --> 03:57.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:57.000 --> 04:00.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:00.000 --> 04:03.000]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one
[04:03.000 --> 04:06.000]  You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father
[04:06.000 --> 04:08.000]  You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister
[04:08.000 --> 04:11.000]  You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me
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[04:46.000 --> 05:00.560]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Blue of Law Radio, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, and this is, what is
[05:00.560 --> 05:01.560]  it?
[05:01.560 --> 05:11.280]  Thursday, Thursday, August the 7th, 2014, and I'm going to address a subject today
[05:11.280 --> 05:13.080]  we've never talked about.
[05:13.080 --> 05:20.400]  I've looked at it and tried to find people who were knowledgeable on the subject and
[05:20.400 --> 05:31.720]  haven't had much luck with it, but I found an incredible website out of Georgia, it's
[05:31.720 --> 05:42.200]  Operation Restoration, it's actually a non-profit site that essentially is doing what I set
[05:42.200 --> 05:45.160]  up freemortgagehelp.net to do.
[05:45.160 --> 05:55.480]  Oh yeah, I also wanted to announce that I do have freemortgagehelp.net up, and if you
[05:55.480 --> 06:06.400]  have time go look at it and I'd appreciate those who are a bit more technologically sophisticated
[06:06.400 --> 06:09.360]  to have a look at the site.
[06:09.360 --> 06:17.160]  It is designed to present information in a different way.
[06:17.160 --> 06:28.600]  Normally, the way information is presented on the website is in line with Windows 3.1.
[06:28.600 --> 06:32.880]  When Windows 3.1 came out, before Windows 3.1 came out I was using DOS, I didn't even
[06:32.880 --> 06:38.960]  think of the DOS prompt, and then Windows came out, and for a long time I swore I wouldn't
[06:38.960 --> 06:47.160]  go to Windows, but I did, I had to eventually.
[06:47.160 --> 06:52.560]  At the time, computer resources were very scarce.
[06:52.560 --> 07:04.560]  My first computer that I bought as a desktop was an AT, it had 256k RAM and a 40 meg hard
[07:04.560 --> 07:06.560]  drive.
[07:06.560 --> 07:13.640]  In order to run Windows on that machine, they had to be very careful what they did with
[07:13.640 --> 07:24.240]  the programming, and they had to design the programming to deal with the lack of resources.
[07:24.240 --> 07:29.680]  Well that was 30 years ago.
[07:29.680 --> 07:37.840]  Over that time, computer systems have advanced dramatically, but now we're at a point to
[07:37.840 --> 07:46.600]  where resources are not so much of a problem, but we're still using webpages and web presentations
[07:46.600 --> 07:52.600]  that were designed to be computer-centric.
[07:52.600 --> 08:03.240]  So we're trying to redevelop how we present information in electronic media, so that the
[08:03.240 --> 08:13.360]  presentation works more in line with how the living brain does what it does.
[08:13.360 --> 08:19.160]  I'd like some people, a lot of it you won't really notice, the one thing that will stand
[08:19.160 --> 08:29.520]  out is I use a lot of so-called mind maps, and I use a lot of questionnaires.
[08:29.520 --> 08:33.560]  Anyone who is a little more sophisticated, or even if they're not, I'd like you to look
[08:33.560 --> 08:45.920]  at it and tell me when you notice the presentation as opposed to the content.
[08:45.920 --> 08:54.680]  Let me know when I trip up my user, when I generate a question in your mind that I don't
[08:54.680 --> 08:56.360]  answer.
[08:56.360 --> 09:03.960]  And part of what we do here, we want to create questions, because that focuses attention.
[09:03.960 --> 09:11.520]  But if I create a question, and then I don't answer the question, then I've lost rapport.
[09:11.520 --> 09:19.480]  We've all been sitting, listening to someone give a presentation over one thing or another,
[09:19.480 --> 09:26.440]  and they'll say something or do something that is not clear to us, and we don't understand
[09:26.440 --> 09:33.240]  what they're talking about, or we have a question that needs to be answered.
[09:33.240 --> 09:40.680]  Until we get that question answered, or until we get the issue clarified, I've lost you.
[09:40.680 --> 09:47.120]  Whatever the presenter is has lost you, because in the back of your mind, you're turning around
[09:47.120 --> 09:50.680]  trying to find an answer to whatever that issue is, and you're not hearing what he's
[09:50.680 --> 09:51.680]  talking about.
[09:51.680 --> 09:55.320]  And he just keeps moving on ahead of you, and then by the time you figure it out, you're
[09:55.320 --> 09:59.160]  always far behind if you can't hardly catch up.
[09:59.160 --> 10:00.880]  I think everyone's done that in the seminar.
[10:00.880 --> 10:05.720]  I know I do that all the time, but then I'm old and I'm gripped around a lot.
[10:05.720 --> 10:13.120]  But in any case, I'd like you to look at the site and give me some feedback.
[10:13.120 --> 10:20.760]  And I know I'm going to wish I hadn't said this, but don't spare my feelings.
[10:20.760 --> 10:23.880]  Don't be bashful.
[10:23.880 --> 10:27.120]  If something doesn't seem right, let me know.
[10:27.120 --> 10:35.680]  I want this thing well structured, so I don't have a personal investment.
[10:35.680 --> 10:42.720]  And what I've put on the site, I have a personal investment to have a really, really well-crafted
[10:42.720 --> 10:44.760]  site together.
[10:44.760 --> 10:46.640]  This one is a beta site.
[10:46.640 --> 10:53.280]  It's a design platform for a much more sophisticated site we'll be bringing up next.
[10:53.280 --> 11:00.760]  So if you get a chance, go to freemodegetyourup.net and get around in there.
[11:00.760 --> 11:02.520]  There's a lot of stuff there.
[11:02.520 --> 11:07.800]  I do have a lot of places where I haven't completed everything.
[11:07.800 --> 11:13.080]  There's issues I haven't addressed, and one of the issues I was going to talk about tonight
[11:13.080 --> 11:15.880]  is how to do a short sale.
[11:15.880 --> 11:25.320]  This operation restoration site had some really good information on short sales and modifications,
[11:25.320 --> 11:33.400]  things that I have not had experts that could give me some good information on.
[11:33.400 --> 11:38.400]  And I will go to those, but right off the bat, we've got a couple of callers, and I
[11:38.400 --> 11:41.560]  don't want to keep my callers waiting all night.
[11:41.560 --> 11:43.720]  There's one in particular.
[11:43.720 --> 11:46.080]  I'm going to go to Jeff in Mississippi.
[11:46.080 --> 11:47.320]  Hello, Jeff.
[11:47.320 --> 11:48.800]  Hey, Randy.
[11:48.800 --> 11:51.600]  Thanks for having me on.
[11:51.600 --> 11:54.320]  Well, you're on the air and you're not in jail.
[11:54.320 --> 11:56.720]  I take that as a good sign.
[11:56.720 --> 12:01.080]  Yes, I'm definitely not in jail.
[12:01.080 --> 12:03.440]  Unfortunately, I lost my cool.
[12:03.440 --> 12:11.240]  Well, that's kind of good and bad.
[12:11.240 --> 12:14.720]  We've established that I'm no longer afraid in the courtroom.
[12:14.720 --> 12:17.440]  Oh, that's good.
[12:17.440 --> 12:23.680]  Yeah, I'm the angry father, and they're the children that don't mind.
[12:23.680 --> 12:26.920]  That was your advice a long time ago.
[12:26.920 --> 12:27.920]  Yes, yes.
[12:27.920 --> 12:34.440]  But I was trying to walk my public defender into a trap, and unfortunately, I started
[12:34.440 --> 12:41.040]  getting loud before I could do that, and he got away Scott clean.
[12:41.040 --> 12:45.200]  So you remember how the cops would try to chase Bonnie and Clyde, and then they would
[12:45.200 --> 12:46.200]  get away?
[12:46.200 --> 12:47.200]  Yes.
[12:47.200 --> 12:49.120]  That's what happened.
[12:49.120 --> 12:55.320]  I showed up in Mississippi and my public defender was there, and he actually surprised me.
[12:55.320 --> 13:00.560]  He met me in the hallway and said that he was withdrawing from the case.
[13:00.560 --> 13:02.640]  And I said, no, you're not.
[13:02.640 --> 13:08.160]  Then they announced a hearing, and it wasn't my trial.
[13:08.160 --> 13:13.240]  It was a hearing before the trial, a hearing to withdraw.
[13:13.240 --> 13:18.540]  And I had written 10 bar complaints against my public defender, but I did not want him
[13:18.540 --> 13:19.540]  to withdraw.
[13:19.540 --> 13:24.040]  So when we went to the hearing, he stood up and said there's conflict of interest, bar
[13:24.040 --> 13:25.800]  complaints.
[13:25.800 --> 13:31.520]  And the judge asked me what I thought, and I stood up and said that my public defender
[13:31.520 --> 13:33.840]  is not doing his job.
[13:33.840 --> 13:36.520]  And then after that, I kind of started yelling and screaming.
[13:36.520 --> 13:39.440]  I started screaming and yelling, told him to do his job.
[13:39.440 --> 13:43.160]  The judge said that, well, I'm thinking about letting this guy go.
[13:43.160 --> 13:45.260]  And I said, no, you're not.
[13:45.260 --> 13:49.640]  He's going to stay and do his job, and that's that.
[13:49.640 --> 13:55.280]  The judge then turned around and said, well, no, I am going to let him withdraw.
[13:55.280 --> 14:01.960]  And I said, I will object and reserve that or register that for my appeal.
[14:01.960 --> 14:06.360]  And the judge says, I don't care what you say or what you do.
[14:06.360 --> 14:13.600]  And then the prosecutor jumped up and said that Mr. Hill is intentionally trying to mess
[14:13.600 --> 14:15.560]  up this case, interfere with this case.
[14:15.560 --> 14:20.680]  And the judge said, yes, I believe that Mr. Hill is trying to mess up this case.
[14:20.680 --> 14:21.680]  That's where I didn't get him.
[14:21.680 --> 14:28.360]  I let that slide because I jumped up and screamed, my public defender has failed utterly, which
[14:28.360 --> 14:31.560]  didn't mean, I don't think it did me any good.
[14:31.560 --> 14:36.040]  I wish I could have caught them on the record for being biased and prejudiced and maybe
[14:36.040 --> 14:38.120]  tried to disqualify them.
[14:38.120 --> 14:39.600]  And instead, they all got away scot-free.
[14:39.600 --> 14:46.200]  Maybe, and that's where I'm at.
[14:46.200 --> 14:50.520]  So I take it there was no trial today at that day.
[14:50.520 --> 14:52.880]  They continued it.
[14:52.880 --> 15:00.800]  They continued the case and what was supposed to be a three-day trial only lasted five minutes.
[15:00.800 --> 15:05.360]  Well, now they're going to have to appoint new counsel.
[15:05.360 --> 15:06.360]  Yes.
[15:06.360 --> 15:13.320]  A new counsel is going to come in and you've already hammered the original counsel.
[15:13.320 --> 15:17.400]  Good luck, guys.
[15:17.400 --> 15:20.480]  So this may work out very well for you.
[15:20.480 --> 15:24.960]  I wanted to hammer my attorney in court.
[15:24.960 --> 15:30.040]  We were going to, I told him, I gave him a motion to dismiss just like you had directed
[15:30.040 --> 15:31.960]  me and he refused to do it.
[15:31.960 --> 15:33.280]  I bar-grieved him.
[15:33.280 --> 15:40.520]  I gave him to challenge the indictment and in subpoena deuces tecum, the missing statement
[15:40.520 --> 15:47.360]  and the missing witness, and I was going to walk him through court and say all these things.
[15:47.360 --> 15:52.760]  And instead, I just totally lost my mind and jumped up and said, this man's a complete
[15:52.760 --> 15:55.640]  failure, which to me doesn't do any good at all.
[15:55.640 --> 15:58.840]  It just makes me look like I'm a wild animal.
[15:58.840 --> 15:59.840]  Yes.
[15:59.840 --> 16:00.840]  That's okay.
[16:00.840 --> 16:02.840]  This is how we get better.
[16:02.840 --> 16:07.440]  First, you've got to get, really get PO'd.
[16:07.440 --> 16:09.440]  Now you've had your PO'd.
[16:09.440 --> 16:11.480]  Now you need to get mean with them.
[16:11.480 --> 16:18.240]  When you get mean, then everything's about setting them up.
[16:18.240 --> 16:20.640]  So but you did that anyway.
[16:20.640 --> 16:29.200]  Since the judge removed your counsel, now he's obligated to appoint new counsel, then
[16:29.200 --> 16:36.120]  you need to file a malpractice suit, send a tort letter to counsel, notifying him of
[16:36.120 --> 16:42.720]  your intent to file a malpractice suit, sue him and notify him that you've been harmed.
[16:42.720 --> 16:48.400]  You've been denied in due process and that's up to the courts, blah, blah, blah.
[16:48.400 --> 16:52.040]  And the man that he make you hold would be sued.
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[19:53.540 --> 19:56.520]  gentlemen.
[19:56.520 --> 19:57.520]  We're back.
[19:57.520 --> 19:58.520]  Randy Kelton.
[19:58.520 --> 19:59.520]  Deborah Stevens.
[19:59.520 --> 20:00.520]  You have our radio.
[20:00.520 --> 20:01.520]  And we're talking to Jeff in the...
[20:01.520 --> 20:02.520]  Okay, Jeff.
[20:02.520 --> 20:03.520]  So, you may have done well.
[20:03.520 --> 20:04.520]  We're talking about a tort letter.
[20:04.520 --> 20:05.520]  Now, am I writing a tort letter to the judge or to my attorney?
[20:05.520 --> 20:06.520]  Your attorney is not necessarily one to the judge.
[20:06.520 --> 20:07.520]  Okay.
[20:07.520 --> 20:08.520]  You have a lawyer.
[20:08.520 --> 20:09.520]  Just like all the rest of the lawyers are essentially incompetent.
[20:09.520 --> 20:10.520]  We're going to review that.
[20:10.520 --> 20:35.160]  Because they don't want to annoy the court, because it's your belief that if they annoy
[20:35.160 --> 20:41.600]  the court, and actually adjudicate a case, that they won't get appointed as court appointed
[20:41.600 --> 20:42.600]  counsel again.
[20:42.600 --> 20:49.560]  So, your lawyer did that, and you just got your lawyer trained so he would actually do
[20:49.560 --> 20:50.560]  his job.
[20:50.560 --> 20:51.560]  And now you took...
[20:51.560 --> 20:55.560]  The judge took you away from you and interfered with your contract with your lawyer.
[20:55.560 --> 20:56.560]  Yes.
[20:56.560 --> 20:59.560]  I might consider suing the judge.
[20:59.560 --> 21:00.560]  Okay.
[21:00.560 --> 21:03.560]  Interfering with a private contract.
[21:03.560 --> 21:06.560]  That's a constitutional issue.
[21:06.560 --> 21:13.560]  There's no reason for you to be nice to them at this point.
[21:13.560 --> 21:22.560]  And the courts have held that rights belong to the religion of the litigants.
[21:22.560 --> 21:29.560]  Since you've essentially already served your time, they're struggling to keep you from
[21:29.560 --> 21:32.560]  suing them for the time they served.
[21:32.560 --> 21:33.560]  Okay.
[21:33.560 --> 21:40.560]  So, I would certainly look at suing the lawyer.
[21:40.560 --> 21:45.560]  And I have to think about how to handle the judge.
[21:45.560 --> 21:46.560]  Okay.
[21:46.560 --> 21:50.560]  With the lawyer first, what would be the first step?
[21:50.560 --> 21:53.560]  I've never sued anyone.
[21:53.560 --> 21:56.560]  Tort letter is the first step.
[21:56.560 --> 21:57.560]  Got it.
[21:57.560 --> 22:02.560]  You put in the tort letter and you make the tort letter look like a civil suit.
[22:02.560 --> 22:03.560]  Got it.
[22:03.560 --> 22:12.560]  And the way you do that is you write up a civil suit and you go online and you can look
[22:12.560 --> 22:13.560]  at some.
[22:13.560 --> 22:20.560]  And you write up a civil suit, take the heading off the civil suit, the court heading off
[22:20.560 --> 22:28.560]  the civil suit, and you place it with the litigants letter there.
[22:28.560 --> 22:30.560]  And that's the only difference.
[22:30.560 --> 22:36.560]  So, when you write the tort letter and the other side gets it, and you're saying making
[22:36.560 --> 22:43.560]  holy be sued, well, they can tell you're not kidding around with them because what they
[22:43.560 --> 22:49.560]  have in their hand is the suit you're fixing to file against them.
[22:49.560 --> 22:56.560]  So, it kind of makes it clear that you're going to sue them.
[22:56.560 --> 23:00.560]  But with your lawyer, there's not much you can do.
[23:00.560 --> 23:01.560]  Alright.
[23:01.560 --> 23:09.560]  So, regardless of what you do, he's kind of screwed.
[23:09.560 --> 23:17.560]  But he will certainly tell the judge that what you're doing.
[23:17.560 --> 23:20.560]  And that's what you want.
[23:20.560 --> 23:26.560]  Now they've got to try to find another lawyer to represent the case.
[23:26.560 --> 23:28.560]  Good luck, guys.
[23:28.560 --> 23:33.560]  Well, it's because the judge told me that he said, Mr. Hill, there is not an attorney
[23:33.560 --> 23:37.560]  in the region that will work with you.
[23:37.560 --> 23:39.560]  Your problem, not my problem.
[23:39.560 --> 23:41.560]  I have a right to counsel.
[23:41.560 --> 23:44.560]  I have a right to competent counsel.
[23:44.560 --> 23:50.560]  Now, there's one good thing that I got my attorney on, and that is I had mentioned that
[23:50.560 --> 23:55.560]  I was challenging the land title of the property that was supposed to be on campus.
[23:55.560 --> 24:01.560]  My attorney was dumb enough to say in court, well, I brought the land title for Mr. Hill.
[24:01.560 --> 24:05.560]  I turned around and said, that is not my public defender's job.
[24:05.560 --> 24:08.560]  That is the prosecutor's job.
[24:08.560 --> 24:11.560]  And I just flipped out and started yelling.
[24:11.560 --> 24:13.560]  So, I got that on the record.
[24:13.560 --> 24:17.560]  I don't know if that's a bad thing or not.
[24:17.560 --> 24:24.560]  If they think you're a loose cannon, now you're not moldable.
[24:24.560 --> 24:30.560]  You're not someone they can push and pressure.
[24:30.560 --> 24:33.560]  Now they have a problem.
[24:33.560 --> 24:35.560]  Now they know they have a problem.
[24:35.560 --> 24:37.560]  So, what's the judge going to do now?
[24:37.560 --> 24:39.560]  They've charged you criminally.
[24:39.560 --> 24:45.560]  You have been determined to be indigent.
[24:45.560 --> 24:47.560]  And now they've got to find you counsel.
[24:47.560 --> 24:50.560]  You have a right to counsel of your choice.
[24:50.560 --> 25:01.560]  So, what I suggest you do is look around for the most expensive lawyer in the jurisdiction
[25:01.560 --> 25:06.560]  and request that the court appoint that lawyer.
[25:06.560 --> 25:08.560]  Okay.
[25:08.560 --> 25:12.560]  The judge actually said there's not a lawyer who will work with you.
[25:12.560 --> 25:15.560]  Yes, exactly.
[25:15.560 --> 25:17.560]  That is wonderful news.
[25:17.560 --> 25:20.560]  He said we're going to have to go outside of the region
[25:20.560 --> 25:25.560]  and bring someone in from another area of the state.
[25:25.560 --> 25:30.560]  That's not going to help much.
[25:30.560 --> 25:32.560]  This is good. This is wonderful.
[25:32.560 --> 25:39.560]  When the next lawyer comes in, he's going to be kind of...
[25:39.560 --> 25:45.560]  the problems you're causing for the lawyer with the bar grievances
[25:45.560 --> 25:51.560]  are problems the judge can't fix.
[25:51.560 --> 25:57.560]  Because the judge does not own the insurance company.
[25:57.560 --> 25:59.560]  And that's where their problem is.
[25:59.560 --> 26:04.560]  It is the insurance company that's screwing their lawyer big time.
[26:04.560 --> 26:10.560]  And the insurance company is not going to care what that judge thinks.
[26:10.560 --> 26:16.560]  So, now you've got them with a problem they're going to have trouble fixing.
[26:16.560 --> 26:21.560]  The prosecutor is going to have to screw some lawyer.
[26:21.560 --> 26:26.560]  And that's going to make bad mojo for him.
[26:26.560 --> 26:31.560]  These lawyers come in there and they do what the prosecutor and the judge wants
[26:31.560 --> 26:34.560]  and the judge takes care of them.
[26:34.560 --> 26:37.560]  Then they get the pro se from hell.
[26:37.560 --> 26:41.560]  It comes in there and kicks them in their professional teeth
[26:41.560 --> 26:46.560]  in ways that the prosecutor and the judge can do nothing about.
[26:46.560 --> 26:47.560]  Now, what are they going to do?
[26:47.560 --> 26:51.560]  They're going to go to some other attorney and say,
[26:51.560 --> 26:58.560]  we want you to come in here so that this pro se guy can ruin your career.
[26:58.560 --> 27:01.560]  Good luck on that.
[27:01.560 --> 27:03.560]  All right.
[27:03.560 --> 27:07.560]  Okay, I think you're in a good spot now.
[27:07.560 --> 27:08.560]  Okay.
[27:08.560 --> 27:15.560]  The important part to understand is you don't have to be the judge's buddy.
[27:15.560 --> 27:18.560]  The prosecutor don't have to like you.
[27:18.560 --> 27:24.560]  They're going to do absolutely the worst they can.
[27:24.560 --> 27:27.560]  So there's little you can do to make it worse.
[27:27.560 --> 27:32.560]  Now, they might try to do something worse, but their problem is,
[27:32.560 --> 27:35.560]  is it gets out of hand for them,
[27:35.560 --> 27:41.560]  especially that they know now they have somebody who's going to take them on.
[27:41.560 --> 27:43.560]  And he's not going to bow down to them.
[27:43.560 --> 27:46.560]  It's not going to be bullied by them.
[27:46.560 --> 27:50.560]  Now they have a problem.
[27:50.560 --> 27:52.560]  I'm proud of you.
[27:52.560 --> 27:55.560]  I caused the judge great pain.
[27:55.560 --> 28:04.560]  I've been in front of the judge so many times now that 99% of what I say doesn't bother him.
[28:04.560 --> 28:06.560]  I've told you before, a lot of times he'll just smile
[28:06.560 --> 28:10.560]  like he's at his grandchild's birthday party and nothing bothers him.
[28:10.560 --> 28:14.560]  I said something that really, really hurt him,
[28:14.560 --> 28:17.560]  and that is when we were talking about my public defender
[28:17.560 --> 28:20.560]  and I was yelling out that he's not doing his job and this and that,
[28:20.560 --> 28:22.560]  I then turned to the judge and said,
[28:22.560 --> 28:27.560]  Judge, I have the right to the assistance of counsel.
[28:27.560 --> 28:32.560]  And he sat back like I had punched him in the nose,
[28:32.560 --> 28:36.560]  like he had to take a few breaths just to figure out what to say.
[28:36.560 --> 28:44.560]  And then he finally said, you know, that's what won your appeal.
[28:44.560 --> 28:47.560]  No, that's not what won my appeal.
[28:47.560 --> 28:52.560]  Your incompetence won my appeal.
[28:52.560 --> 28:58.560]  Well, the decision for the appeals court is that my right to the assistance of counsel was ultimately violated.
[28:58.560 --> 29:00.560]  That's kind of what it came down to.
[29:00.560 --> 29:04.560]  And so I just repeated that.
[29:04.560 --> 29:09.560]  And I mean, maybe you could explain this to me, but it looked like I hit him in the nose.
[29:09.560 --> 29:10.560]  You did.
[29:10.560 --> 29:13.560]  That's exactly why it didn't occur to me.
[29:13.560 --> 29:20.560]  I'd forgotten why they had actually overturned the case.
[29:20.560 --> 29:27.560]  And that was not a smart thing for him to say.
[29:27.560 --> 29:31.560]  You won your case for lack of assistance of counsel,
[29:31.560 --> 29:36.560]  and now you're in here claiming the exact same issue.
[29:36.560 --> 29:45.560]  You are right in the exact right place.
[29:45.560 --> 29:48.560]  It still scares me.
[29:48.560 --> 29:53.560]  I don't think your liberty is at risk anymore.
[29:53.560 --> 30:02.560]  But it still, it always makes me uncomfortable.
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[34:17.560 --> 34:19.560]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[34:19.560 --> 34:22.560]  We're talking to Jeff in Mississippi, and Jeff, I'm proud of you.
[34:22.560 --> 34:29.560]  And for those listening, it may be hard for you to appreciate
[34:29.560 --> 34:35.560]  just how difficult what Jeff is doing is.
[34:35.560 --> 34:39.560]  He's standing up in the courtroom crawling down that judge's throat,
[34:39.560 --> 34:44.560]  and that judge is trying to get him put back in prison.
[34:44.560 --> 34:48.560]  It's one thing when you're in a civil case and they want to reach in your pocket
[34:48.560 --> 34:50.560]  and take some money out of your pocket.
[34:50.560 --> 34:56.560]  It's a whole other animal when they want to put you in prison and take your liberty.
[34:56.560 --> 35:00.560]  And I really appreciate your courage, Jeff.
[35:00.560 --> 35:05.560]  This is how we're going to get this system back.
[35:05.560 --> 35:13.560]  So let us know how it goes, and make sure your new counsel is aware
[35:13.560 --> 35:16.560]  of what happened to your old counsel.
[35:16.560 --> 35:24.560]  Oh, yes, and in the meantime, all of those motions your counsel would not file,
[35:24.560 --> 35:28.560]  get them in.
[35:28.560 --> 35:31.560]  Oh, you mean me get them in by myself?
[35:31.560 --> 35:33.560]  Absolutely.
[35:33.560 --> 35:37.560]  Get in everything you want in.
[35:37.560 --> 35:43.560]  When they appoint next counsel, get them in tomorrow.
[35:43.560 --> 35:47.560]  All the things you're trying to get your counsel to file,
[35:47.560 --> 35:51.560]  get those filed tomorrow before they have a chance to appoint another counsel.
[35:51.560 --> 35:55.560]  Quick question.
[35:55.560 --> 36:00.560]  Usually I mail the letter, my motion, I will mail that to the clerk of the court
[36:00.560 --> 36:05.560]  and say, file stamp this for me and send me back a copy.
[36:05.560 --> 36:07.560]  That's how you do it.
[36:07.560 --> 36:08.560]  And that's how you do it.
[36:08.560 --> 36:10.560]  It's just that easy.
[36:10.560 --> 36:14.560]  Yeah, put a cover letter on there and also put on the cover letter,
[36:14.560 --> 36:22.560]  bring these motions immediately to the attention of the court.
[36:22.560 --> 36:23.560]  Got it.
[36:23.560 --> 36:29.560]  Now, they may not have this in Mississippi, but in Texas, a guy lost a case.
[36:29.560 --> 36:31.560]  He filed motions.
[36:31.560 --> 36:35.560]  The clerk did not bring them to the attention of the court,
[36:35.560 --> 36:40.560]  and the court claimed they hadn't seen them and didn't rule on them.
[36:40.560 --> 36:46.560]  So make sure they don't get to sneak out from under that one.
[36:46.560 --> 36:57.560]  But get everything you want filed in and in your letter to the clerk.
[36:57.560 --> 37:03.560]  Notice to the clerk that you are currently without counsel.
[37:03.560 --> 37:08.560]  Therefore, you may file these documents.
[37:08.560 --> 37:11.560]  You don't want her to hold them up saying, well, he's got a lawyer.
[37:11.560 --> 37:13.560]  The lawyer's got to do it.
[37:13.560 --> 37:15.560]  Yeah.
[37:15.560 --> 37:16.560]  But get everything filed.
[37:16.560 --> 37:22.560]  Once it's filed, whoever's appointed at counsel has to deal with them.
[37:22.560 --> 37:24.560]  Ooh, I like that.
[37:24.560 --> 37:29.560]  You know, this is what I did to my lawyer when the DPS guy
[37:29.560 --> 37:34.560]  at the Secretary of State's building knocked out one of my teeth.
[37:34.560 --> 37:40.560]  I told him, they appointed him, and he said, well, the judge said,
[37:40.560 --> 37:45.560]  they called me in for this hearing, and they called me up, and I said,
[37:45.560 --> 37:48.560]  Your Honor, you're Randall Kelton.
[37:48.560 --> 37:52.560]  I said, yes, Your Honor, I am, and I have this notice to be here,
[37:52.560 --> 37:55.560]  but it doesn't tell me why you wanted me to be here.
[37:55.560 --> 37:57.560]  What am I doing here?
[37:57.560 --> 38:00.560]  Well, Mr. Kelton, we need to find out if you have a lawyer.
[38:00.560 --> 38:04.560]  I said, well, Your Honor, I have 28.01 Code of Criminal Procedure,
[38:04.560 --> 38:08.560]  and it lists all those things you can order me to come to court for
[38:08.560 --> 38:12.560]  to see if I have a lawyer that's not one of them.
[38:12.560 --> 38:21.560]  She got kind of tense, but she was the ex-25-year prosecutor's daughter,
[38:21.560 --> 38:25.560]  and I decided she was probably the most political judge that I could get,
[38:25.560 --> 38:27.560]  so I kind of backed off.
[38:27.560 --> 38:30.560]  She said, Mr. Kelton, we need to find out if you have an attorney.
[38:30.560 --> 38:31.560]  Do you have a lawyer?
[38:31.560 --> 38:33.560]  No, Your Honor, I do not.
[38:33.560 --> 38:34.560]  Are you going to hire a lawyer?
[38:34.560 --> 38:36.560]  No, I am not.
[38:36.560 --> 38:38.560]  Would you like us to appoint one for you?
[38:38.560 --> 38:40.560]  I said, you do anything you want to.
[38:40.560 --> 38:42.560]  Well, I'm going to appoint you counsel.
[38:42.560 --> 38:47.560]  Well, if you do, Judge, make sure you appoint one you really don't like.
[38:47.560 --> 38:49.560]  And she laughed and said, well, we have an attorney wheel.
[38:49.560 --> 38:51.560]  I'll just take the next one.
[38:51.560 --> 38:52.560]  They said, you're off the hook.
[38:52.560 --> 38:55.560]  She said, yes, Mr. Kelton, I am.
[38:55.560 --> 38:57.560]  So they appointed counsel.
[38:57.560 --> 38:58.560]  He comes out.
[38:58.560 --> 39:02.560]  We go in this room, and he starts telling me how things are going to go.
[39:02.560 --> 39:04.560]  And I said, no, no, no, no, no.
[39:04.560 --> 39:05.560]  That's not how they're going to go.
[39:05.560 --> 39:08.560]  Well, then, Mr. Kelton, just how are they going to go?
[39:08.560 --> 39:10.560]  This is how they're going to go.
[39:10.560 --> 39:13.560]  You're going to go to the judge and ask the judge to remove you from this court,
[39:13.560 --> 39:16.560]  from this case, and I'm going to go to the judge and tell the judge,
[39:16.560 --> 39:18.560]  don't you dare remove him from this court.
[39:18.560 --> 39:22.560]  This case, he is my counsel of choice, and he is under contract.
[39:22.560 --> 39:24.560]  Well, Mr. Kelton, I'm not under contract to you.
[39:24.560 --> 39:25.560]  I'm under contract to the state.
[39:25.560 --> 39:28.560]  Yes, you are, but I'm the intended third-party beneficiary,
[39:28.560 --> 39:30.560]  and I have standing under the contract.
[39:30.560 --> 39:32.560]  But the judge is going to remove you from the case.
[39:32.560 --> 39:34.560]  And he said, yes, he will.
[39:34.560 --> 39:39.560]  Then I get to sue the judge for interfering with a contract.
[39:39.560 --> 39:44.560]  The look on his face was priceless.
[39:44.560 --> 39:48.560]  He's going to get me disbarred.
[39:48.560 --> 39:55.560]  And then I told him that I have a set of motions in with 21 due process
[39:55.560 --> 39:59.560]  violation allocations in the motions.
[39:59.560 --> 40:05.560]  You will adequately adjudicate every single one of them.
[40:05.560 --> 40:08.560]  You fail to adjudicate a single one.
[40:08.560 --> 40:13.560]  I will barg review, and then I'll file a malpractice suit against you.
[40:13.560 --> 40:14.560]  Okay.
[40:14.560 --> 40:18.560]  And he sat back, well, actually, this was the next day.
[40:18.560 --> 40:22.560]  I called him and told him I didn't tell him everything.
[40:22.560 --> 40:30.560]  And that's when I told him that I had these motions, all these due process
[40:30.560 --> 40:33.560]  violations, and he'll adequately adjudicate every one of them, or I'll
[40:33.560 --> 40:35.560]  barg review for each one.
[40:35.560 --> 40:37.560]  And that was a pattern interruption.
[40:37.560 --> 40:40.560]  And generally, when you interrupt someone this way, you give them about a
[40:40.560 --> 40:46.560]  count of three, one, two, three, to go inside, do trans derivational search,
[40:46.560 --> 40:49.560]  and figure out a way to answer you.
[40:49.560 --> 40:53.560]  I counted to five before he responded.
[40:53.560 --> 41:01.560]  Mr. Kelton, you would grieve me in a heartbeat.
[41:01.560 --> 41:02.560]  Yeah.
[41:02.560 --> 41:05.560]  He was terrified through the whole case.
[41:05.560 --> 41:11.560]  And they threw the case out to protect my lawyer from me.
[41:11.560 --> 41:14.560]  You have them in that position.
[41:14.560 --> 41:18.560]  That's why you need to go ahead and send a tort letter to this lawyer.
[41:18.560 --> 41:19.560]  Okay.
[41:19.560 --> 41:24.560]  I will send my motion in to the clerk, and then I've never written a tort
[41:24.560 --> 41:29.560]  letter, so I will start Googling that on the Internet, and next week when I
[41:29.560 --> 41:32.560]  call you, then we'll talk about a tort letter.
[41:32.560 --> 41:40.560]  If you write a statement of facts, then send it to me.
[41:40.560 --> 41:41.560]  Okay.
[41:41.560 --> 41:46.560]  And I'll look it over, and I'll help you craft a tort letter.
[41:46.560 --> 41:47.560]  Got it.
[41:47.560 --> 41:48.560]  Okay.
[41:48.560 --> 41:52.560]  Is your email on the website?
[41:52.560 --> 41:53.560]  Yes, it is.
[41:53.560 --> 41:56.560]  It's randy at ruleoflawradio.com.
[41:56.560 --> 41:57.560]  Got it.
[41:57.560 --> 41:58.560]  Okay.
[41:58.560 --> 42:00.560]  Thank you, and I'll talk to you next week.
[42:00.560 --> 42:02.560]  Okay.
[42:02.560 --> 42:03.560]  Thank you, Jeff.
[42:03.560 --> 42:04.560]  Okay.
[42:04.560 --> 42:06.560]  Now we're going to go to Andrew in Pennsylvania.
[42:06.560 --> 42:07.560]  Hello, Andrew.
[42:07.560 --> 42:09.560]  What do you have for us today?
[42:09.560 --> 42:10.560]  Hi.
[42:10.560 --> 42:12.560]  I've got a question about the law.
[42:12.560 --> 42:14.560]  It's great to be talking to you again.
[42:14.560 --> 42:20.560]  Our February 12th radio show has done well, 12 likes and 0 dislikes so far out of
[42:20.560 --> 42:25.560]  only 526 views, but people obviously like it, so I'm glad you got a lot of
[42:25.560 --> 42:28.560]  people pleased with your lecture on due process and the foreclosure issue
[42:28.560 --> 42:33.560]  there, but I do have a question about the law that I wanted to ask, Jeff.
[42:33.560 --> 42:39.560]  Is there ever a time where it makes sense to use what I would call the
[42:39.560 --> 42:44.560]  disciplinary discrimination defense and to illustrate what I'm talking about?
[42:44.560 --> 42:48.560]  I'll use a football analogy that any American that understands that
[42:48.560 --> 42:52.560]  Americans love football, the whole Ben Roethlisberger situation with him
[42:52.560 --> 42:56.560]  getting suspended for sexually assaulting a woman even though he never got
[42:56.560 --> 43:00.560]  charged with a crime, probably because there wasn't enough evidence, but most
[43:00.560 --> 43:04.560]  people say he did do it, they think he did it, and got a suspension of six
[43:04.560 --> 43:09.560]  games reduced to four, but he said he was remorseful, and I'm sure he was, but
[43:09.560 --> 43:12.560]  in the back of his mind he was probably thinking, how dare the commissioner do
[43:12.560 --> 43:13.560]  this to me?
[43:13.560 --> 43:17.560]  I didn't actually get charged with breaking any laws, and yet NFL players who
[43:17.560 --> 43:21.560]  did break the law didn't get any suspension at all, and some players who had
[43:21.560 --> 43:25.560]  done worse than he did didn't get as bad as punishment as he did.
[43:25.560 --> 43:30.560]  So relating this to the issue of the courtroom, is there ever a situation during
[43:30.560 --> 43:35.560]  a trial where it would make sense to use a defense, and I find I got that
[43:35.560 --> 43:39.560]  punishment, so why are you giving me the sentence of a harsh punishment when I
[43:39.560 --> 43:40.560]  did the same crime?
[43:40.560 --> 43:41.560]  It's absurd, it makes no sense.
[43:41.560 --> 43:44.560]  Is there ever a time to use that as a defense?
[43:44.560 --> 43:51.560]  That is one of the defenses that goes to a pleading.
[43:51.560 --> 43:57.560]  We have motions and pleadings, and there are three pleadings.
[43:57.560 --> 44:22.560]  We have motions and pleadings, and there are three pleadings.
[44:22.560 --> 44:49.560]  We have motions and pleadings, and there are three pleadings.
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[46:14.560 --> 46:32.560]  Okay, we are back.
[46:32.560 --> 46:37.560]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of law radio, and my apologies.
[46:37.560 --> 46:42.560]  I have ran off the cliff in every segment this time.
[46:42.560 --> 46:47.560]  I'm supposed to be a little music in my ear telling me when we're getting close
[46:47.560 --> 46:50.560]  to break, and for some reason I'm not hearing it.
[46:50.560 --> 46:55.560]  I've got this clock right in front of me I'm supposed to look at, and my ears
[46:55.560 --> 47:01.560]  are still burning from the break being chewed out for not watching the clock,
[47:01.560 --> 47:04.560]  but I'm having way too much fun.
[47:04.560 --> 47:12.560]  Okay, when we went out, pleadings as opposed to motions.
[47:12.560 --> 47:19.560]  There are three pleadings, challenge to subject matter jurisdiction,
[47:19.560 --> 47:24.560]  a double jeopardy, and veneer.
[47:24.560 --> 47:27.560]  Double jeopardy, that's exactly what this goes to.
[47:27.560 --> 47:31.560]  If you have already been punished for something, and then the court tries to
[47:31.560 --> 47:38.560]  try you and punish you again, you plead double jeopardy.
[47:38.560 --> 47:43.560]  Or is there something about this that's different, Andrew, that I missed?
[47:43.560 --> 47:48.560]  Well, what I'm trying to say is Ben Roethlisberger, to use the analogy I use,
[47:48.560 --> 47:52.560]  would say that he was a victim of disciplinary discrimination because people
[47:52.560 --> 47:57.560]  that did get charged with breaking the law didn't get any suspensions or any
[47:57.560 --> 48:01.560]  punishment from the NFL, but he got a four-game suspension when he didn't get
[48:01.560 --> 48:06.560]  charged with breaking any law, and other athletes that have done worse than him
[48:06.560 --> 48:10.560]  have not got as bad a suspension or a punishment as him.
[48:10.560 --> 48:16.560]  The reason I say this is a disciplinary discrimination defense is it's a classic
[48:16.560 --> 48:21.560]  life is not fair example where someone that did a similar crime or did worse got
[48:21.560 --> 48:27.560]  less bad a punishment as someone who did a similar crime or didn't do as bad a
[48:27.560 --> 48:30.560]  crime as the guy who got a less serious punishment.
[48:30.560 --> 48:33.560]  That person would say, well, this is disciplinary discrimination.
[48:33.560 --> 48:37.560]  Either you punish everybody the same way or you don't punish anybody at all.
[48:37.560 --> 48:39.560]  It's totally not fair you're doing this to me.
[48:39.560 --> 48:43.560]  I mean, it sounds like a childish kindergarten-like defense, some would say,
[48:43.560 --> 48:46.560]  because you have to accept people are going to get punished differently for
[48:46.560 --> 48:49.560]  whatever the reason, but some would say, hey, that's disciplinary discrimination.
[48:49.560 --> 48:52.560]  Maybe I should try to use it as a defense.
[48:52.560 --> 48:55.560]  Is there ever a time where it would make sense to do that?
[48:55.560 --> 49:05.560]  That might be one thing for a parent or a teacher, but when you go to the courts,
[49:05.560 --> 49:10.560]  arbitrary and capricious is not an option.
[49:10.560 --> 49:18.560]  I should not be in a position to where I am subject to the caprice of the court
[49:18.560 --> 49:24.560]  that he happens not to like the way I stand or hold myself or the tone of my
[49:24.560 --> 49:32.560]  voice, that I would be subject to a different punishment than someone else
[49:32.560 --> 49:44.560]  for the same accusation goes to equal protection of the laws.
[49:44.560 --> 49:54.560]  But in this particular example, that looks like that is purely contractual.
[49:54.560 --> 50:02.560]  And I'm sure you're just using that as an example, but his contract with the
[50:02.560 --> 50:10.560]  league or with his employer will dictate what the employer can do and can't do.
[50:10.560 --> 50:18.560]  And I don't think he gets to claim that because I wasn't charged with a
[50:18.560 --> 50:27.560]  crime means that you can't exercise your contractual prerogative.
[50:27.560 --> 50:30.560]  And if he was punished under the contract, that would have nothing to do
[50:30.560 --> 50:32.560]  with the criminal.
[50:32.560 --> 50:36.560]  He wouldn't be able to go into criminal and say, I was punished under a private
[50:36.560 --> 50:41.560]  contract, now you can't punish me under the statutory laws.
[50:41.560 --> 50:45.560]  That would not stand.
[50:45.560 --> 50:47.560]  Did I miss something there?
[50:47.560 --> 50:54.560]  Was what you were using for, is that a correct analogy?
[50:54.560 --> 51:00.560]  Well, for the most part it was pretty good, except here basically saying it is
[51:00.560 --> 51:06.560]  pointless in the courtroom at a trial to use the example of someone doing the
[51:06.560 --> 51:10.560]  same crime you did, getting a certain punishment, therefore you would use the
[51:10.560 --> 51:16.560]  defense, well, you can't give me a punishment that's more harsh than this.
[51:16.560 --> 51:19.560]  Sounds like someone would say that's a childish defense, but it doesn't make
[51:19.560 --> 51:20.560]  sense to do that.
[51:20.560 --> 51:25.560]  And basically you told me no, no, no, there's no point in doing that.
[51:25.560 --> 51:31.560]  Essentially no, because what the court is going to say is every single case is
[51:31.560 --> 51:33.560]  separate, is different.
[51:33.560 --> 51:41.560]  And the court itself is given discretion to grant, to impose a punishment within
[51:41.560 --> 51:53.560]  this range, depending on the discretion of the court.
[51:53.560 --> 51:59.560]  And that is an argument that we've had people raise here and say, well, other
[51:59.560 --> 52:03.560]  people were charged with this and they didn't get as much punishment as I did.
[52:03.560 --> 52:11.560]  And the question becomes, was their case exactly like yours?
[52:11.560 --> 52:18.560]  Was this other person accused of this, this, this, and this, the way you were,
[52:18.560 --> 52:20.560]  or was this their first offense?
[52:20.560 --> 52:27.560]  There's so many circumstances that can fall in between, and that's why the
[52:27.560 --> 52:35.560]  legislature allows a range of punishments so that the judge can make a determination
[52:35.560 --> 52:42.560]  of what he believes based on the facts to be a just punishment.
[52:42.560 --> 52:44.560]  Now, can a judge abuse that?
[52:44.560 --> 52:47.560]  Absolutely.
[52:47.560 --> 52:52.560]  But what if we took that away?
[52:52.560 --> 52:55.560]  Again, everybody gets an action punishment for everything.
[52:55.560 --> 52:58.560]  That's draconian.
[52:58.560 --> 53:07.560]  That is a good point because you're right in that gray area that goes to the
[53:07.560 --> 53:11.560]  problems with human beings.
[53:11.560 --> 53:21.560]  We just cannot build a perfect system because human beings are not perfect.
[53:21.560 --> 53:24.560]  And even if we did build a perfect system, for the most part,
[53:24.560 --> 53:32.560]  those being punished would not perceive the system to be perfect.
[53:32.560 --> 53:34.560]  Does that make sense, Andrew?
[53:34.560 --> 53:36.560]  Yeah, it does.
[53:36.560 --> 53:38.560]  One more thing, if you've got time.
[53:38.560 --> 53:44.560]  I was listening to a radio show interview by Rod Klass, who he's a Facebook
[53:44.560 --> 53:46.560]  friend of Eddie Craig, by the way.
[53:46.560 --> 53:47.560]  I noticed that.
[53:47.560 --> 53:51.560]  Rod Klass, one thing he was really stressing in this interview was that you
[53:51.560 --> 53:56.560]  have to take into account when you're at a trial, you have to take into account
[53:56.560 --> 54:02.560]  that the trading with the enemies act is like in full force and in effect in
[54:02.560 --> 54:04.560]  regards to how they're treating you.
[54:04.560 --> 54:09.560]  Could you maybe briefly elaborate on how much trading with the enemy act
[54:09.560 --> 54:12.560]  affects the way you make defenses at trial?
[54:12.560 --> 54:17.560]  I have looked at some of Rod's arguments.
[54:17.560 --> 54:22.560]  I have never found them of value.
[54:22.560 --> 54:27.560]  With that said, I haven't examined his arguments in detail,
[54:27.560 --> 54:31.560]  and I've looked at the trading with the enemies act argument.
[54:31.560 --> 54:43.560]  And I haven't been able to find the relevance that he assigns to it.
[54:43.560 --> 54:45.560]  I have a lot of respect for Rod.
[54:45.560 --> 54:48.560]  He does some serious research.
[54:48.560 --> 54:59.560]  But I also have some concerns about looking for silver bullet issues.
[54:59.560 --> 55:05.560]  I'm primarily a creature of statute.
[55:05.560 --> 55:11.560]  Rod tends to believe that the statutes don't apply to us.
[55:11.560 --> 55:15.560]  And this is kind of a philosophical argument.
[55:15.560 --> 55:19.560]  I'm an engineer, so I'm not very philosophical.
[55:19.560 --> 55:24.560]  When I go into court, the court is going to act like the statutes apply the
[55:24.560 --> 55:26.560]  way they are.
[55:26.560 --> 55:32.560]  And they're going to act like only the statutes that have been enacted in the
[55:32.560 --> 55:37.560]  states over which he has jurisdictions apply.
[55:37.560 --> 55:44.560]  Now, he may be wrong, but that's how he's going to act.
[55:44.560 --> 55:50.560]  And when he finds against you, that may be improper.
[55:50.560 --> 55:54.560]  But he's still going to throw your behind in the can.
[55:54.560 --> 56:00.560]  So from a pragmatic perspective, I avoid those kinds of arguments unless the
[56:00.560 --> 56:06.560]  argument is specifically implicated by the facts of the case.
[56:06.560 --> 56:17.560]  And Rod tends to apply the trading with the enemies act in a general sense.
[56:17.560 --> 56:21.560]  If I can't get there with facts, I'm not going to make the argument.
[56:21.560 --> 56:26.560]  And with all that said, I know a lot of people object to the statutes and they
[56:26.560 --> 56:28.560]  say the statutes don't apply.
[56:28.560 --> 56:33.560]  I know Ralph Winterwood out of Alaska, he says, oh, the statutes don't apply,
[56:33.560 --> 56:37.560]  that the Constitution doesn't apply.
[56:37.560 --> 56:45.560]  However, those people we have to deal with treat them as if they do apply.
[56:45.560 --> 56:50.560]  And human beings being what they are, we can make the most cogent arguments
[56:50.560 --> 56:57.560]  and give them the most convincing reasons as to why they should take our
[56:57.560 --> 57:02.560]  position that the statutes that they've been enforcing, all of their
[57:02.560 --> 57:05.560]  professional career don't apply.
[57:05.560 --> 57:09.560]  But they're not going to go there.
[57:09.560 --> 57:11.560]  They're going to act like they apply.
[57:11.560 --> 57:16.560]  So I'm saying, okay, I can deal with that.
[57:16.560 --> 57:18.560]  You want to apply the statutes?
[57:18.560 --> 57:19.560]  That'll work for me.
[57:19.560 --> 57:24.560]  I don't have any problem with the statutes the way they are.
[57:24.560 --> 57:30.560]  I'll take your statutes and cram them right down your throat.
[57:30.560 --> 57:35.560]  And I'll take those statutes exactly the way you enforce them and cram them
[57:35.560 --> 57:36.560]  right down your throat.
[57:36.560 --> 57:40.560]  That is not hard to do.
[57:40.560 --> 57:46.560]  We can do what we need to do within the context of the statutes and not go to
[57:46.560 --> 57:55.560]  an esoteric argument that will at best be extremely difficult to win.
[57:55.560 --> 58:03.560]  Consider, even if the judge is absolutely not totally, if he totally intends to
[58:03.560 --> 58:09.560]  be honest, and he gives you a very good reason.
[58:09.560 --> 58:13.560]  I have a personal friend who is the Justice of the Peace.
[58:13.560 --> 58:15.560]  He was the president of the school board.
[58:15.560 --> 58:18.560]  He was a captain in the sheriff's department.
[58:18.560 --> 58:22.560]  I only tried to get him arrested a couple of times.
[58:22.560 --> 58:25.560]  We had a high regard for one another.
[58:25.560 --> 58:29.560]  I believed that Mark Autry would do what he believed was right,
[58:29.560 --> 58:31.560]  that he was the Pope.
[58:31.560 --> 58:36.560]  And I went to him as a Justice of the Peace, and I laid the code out to him.
[58:36.560 --> 58:43.560]  And he said, Mr. Kelsey, I have been in law enforcement for 30 years,
[58:43.560 --> 58:46.560]  and we will be quite backward about to go to break.
[58:46.560 --> 58:50.560]  And I didn't follow the clip this time.
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[01:03:21.560 --> 01:03:39.560]  OK, we are back.
[01:03:39.560 --> 01:03:42.560]  Randy Kelton and Stevens.
[01:03:42.560 --> 01:03:49.560]  We're on radio and we're talking with Andrew in Pennsylvania.
[01:03:49.560 --> 01:03:52.560]  Andrew, where were we?
[01:03:52.560 --> 01:03:58.560]  You were saying how you're a creature of statute and out of all the tools in the toolbox to fight the courts,
[01:03:58.560 --> 01:04:01.560]  you say it's best to use the statutes.
[01:04:01.560 --> 01:04:08.560]  And I remember you also said you've got to use case law too because even though case law and statutes aren't technically law,
[01:04:08.560 --> 01:04:13.560]  they are what is considered to be public policy, they are treated as law, so you've got to use it as such.
[01:04:13.560 --> 01:04:15.560]  Is that summing up pretty good?
[01:04:15.560 --> 01:04:25.560]  Yes, the case law is what these guys in the movement call common law.
[01:04:25.560 --> 01:04:30.560]  And that's why I'm so much against common law.
[01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:36.560]  I know I did a presentment to the Republic of Texas several years ago,
[01:04:36.560 --> 01:04:40.560]  and they were pushing real hard to go back to the common law.
[01:04:40.560 --> 01:04:46.560]  They're complaining about public corruption and about how corrupt the judges are,
[01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:50.560]  and they want to go back from the statutory law to the common law.
[01:04:50.560 --> 01:04:54.560]  And I ask them, are you guys out of your minds?
[01:04:54.560 --> 01:05:00.560]  The common law is law made by judges.
[01:05:00.560 --> 01:05:04.560]  This stare decisis is the common law.
[01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:08.560]  I don't want my judge making law.
[01:05:08.560 --> 01:05:15.560]  I want my judge very tightly constrained to statute.
[01:05:15.560 --> 01:05:21.560]  I want him having to apply statutes so that I can hold him to those statutes.
[01:05:21.560 --> 01:05:24.560]  I don't want the common law.
[01:05:24.560 --> 01:05:34.560]  But the point of the law is we have a very good corpus juris body of law.
[01:05:34.560 --> 01:05:40.560]  And even if the guys in the business are scoundrels,
[01:05:40.560 --> 01:05:46.560]  that doesn't stop us from having a good corpus juris.
[01:05:46.560 --> 01:05:53.560]  We have a very well-structured corpus juris because of these scoundrels.
[01:05:53.560 --> 01:05:56.560]  You got these dirty, rotten scoundrels,
[01:05:56.560 --> 01:06:03.560]  and they know full well they're not the only dirty, rotten scoundrels around.
[01:06:03.560 --> 01:06:09.560]  So they need a way to protect themselves from each other.
[01:06:09.560 --> 01:06:12.560]  We're just kind of cannon fodder.
[01:06:12.560 --> 01:06:20.560]  But their problem is when they designed a very carefully structured body of law
[01:06:20.560 --> 01:06:27.560]  so that they would have a way to protect themselves from other dirty, rotten scoundrels like them,
[01:06:27.560 --> 01:06:32.560]  you and I get to use those exact same laws against them.
[01:06:32.560 --> 01:06:37.560]  Now, they really hate it when we do that, but life is tough.
[01:06:37.560 --> 01:06:42.560]  I'm in the process of running the routine on the county I live in.
[01:06:42.560 --> 01:06:47.560]  And there's nothing to do about it because I'm following law.
[01:06:47.560 --> 01:06:50.560]  Oh, when I went out, I was talking about Mark Autry.
[01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:53.560]  I went to Mark Autry and I laid out the code for him.
[01:06:53.560 --> 01:06:56.560]  And what he said to me was,
[01:06:56.560 --> 01:07:04.560]  Mr. Kelton, are you telling me that what I've been doing for the last 30 years
[01:07:04.560 --> 01:07:10.560]  and what everybody else in Texas has been doing is wrong and you're right?
[01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:15.560]  I said, Mark, don't ask me. Just read the code.
[01:07:15.560 --> 01:07:20.560]  He said, Mr. Kelton, there has to be something that you have missed.
[01:07:20.560 --> 01:07:22.560]  Show it to me.
[01:07:22.560 --> 01:07:26.560]  Here's the code. Here's what the code says that you're required to do,
[01:07:26.560 --> 01:07:31.560]  but you're not doing what the code says you're required to do.
[01:07:31.560 --> 01:07:40.560]  Even though Mark was as just a person as I think I have ever known
[01:07:40.560 --> 01:07:43.560]  and as well-meaning a person as I had ever known,
[01:07:43.560 --> 01:07:53.560]  he simply could not bring himself to do specifically what the law says
[01:07:53.560 --> 01:07:58.560]  no matter what anybody else was doing or saying.
[01:07:58.560 --> 01:08:02.560]  That is the problem that we have.
[01:08:02.560 --> 01:08:10.560]  Over time, through a series of seemingly minor adjustments toward adjudicated expediency
[01:08:10.560 --> 01:08:14.560]  and administrative convenience,
[01:08:14.560 --> 01:08:24.560]  those people we put in power have gradually adjusted how the law is implemented
[01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:32.560]  so that it no longer even vaguely resembles what's in the statute.
[01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:37.560]  You and I, all we need to do is bring them back to the statute.
[01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:42.560]  I can tell you this is powerful.
[01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:47.560]  When you come in there and take their statutes exactly the way they use them
[01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:52.560]  and cram them down their throats, they get real excited about that.
[01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:55.560]  When you use the systems that are available,
[01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:00.560]  I just filed a complaint against two individuals.
[01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.560]  Police officer refused to take the complaint,
[01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:10.560]  insisted that I circle this little section telling them whether I wanted them to prosecute
[01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.560]  or did not want to put them to prosecute.
[01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:14.560]  I said, I am not circling that.
[01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:16.560]  It is irrelevant.
[01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.560]  You are to do your job.
[01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:22.560]  It doesn't matter what I want or what I do not want.
[01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:25.560]  He refused to take the complaint.
[01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:28.560]  Okay, Bubba, life is filled with little decisions.
[01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.560]  We all get to make some.
[01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:37.560]  I charged him with shielding from prosecution and official oppression with the local JP.
[01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:39.560]  The JP refused to take my complaint.
[01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:41.560]  He said I had to follow the right procedure.
[01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:44.560]  Well, if the arrogant SOB had looked at the complaint,
[01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:48.560]  I was complaining because I did follow the correct procedure
[01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:59.560]  and the supposed procedure and those that were required to exercise the procedure simply refused.
[01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:02.560]  As he did, he refused to take my complaint.
[01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:06.560]  So I said, okay, life is filled with little decisions.
[01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:09.560]  We all get to make some.
[01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:11.560]  Your turn.
[01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:14.560]  So he touched my thar baby.
[01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.560]  So I take my thar baby to another Justice of the Peace
[01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:24.560]  and ask that Justice of the Peace to have the first Justice of the Peace arrested.
[01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.560]  So what do you think she is going to do?
[01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:31.560]  Same thing, refused to do her duty.
[01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.560]  But now she has a problem.
[01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:39.560]  I cited chapter and verse showing where she had this duty
[01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:43.560]  or where the other JP had the duty.
[01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:46.560]  When he's made known that a crime has been committed to take off,
[01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:50.560]  his judge sat below in his magistrate's hat and hold an examining trial,
[01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:54.560]  and he didn't do that, and then it went on to 39.03 penal code
[01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:56.560]  that says if a public official fails to perform a duty,
[01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.560]  he's required to perform it in the process to deny the citizen
[01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.560]  in the full and free access to enjoyment of right.
[01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.560]  That's Class A misdemeanor in the state of Texas.
[01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.560]  I didn't write the code.
[01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:07.560]  I just read it.
[01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:08.560]  That's what it said, guys.
[01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:10.560]  This was not ambiguous.
[01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:13.560]  It's not hard to understand.
[01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:17.560]  And code construction requires that the code be read
[01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:22.560]  as if the legislature intended every single word.
[01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:25.560]  So what's hard about this, guys?
[01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:27.560]  Well, she's not going to act on it.
[01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:31.560]  So I'm going to go to the next JP, and I'll hit every JP in the county,
[01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:33.560]  and they'll all refuse to.
[01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:37.560]  And then I'll go to the prosecuting attorney, and he'll refuse to.
[01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:39.560]  At least I hope he does.
[01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:45.560]  And then I'll go to Travis County and hit every JP in Travis County,
[01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:48.560]  and then hit the Travis County grand jury.
[01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:52.560]  We just walk them through the system.
[01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:56.560]  This goes to the fact that you will never win your case
[01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:58.560]  simply because you have the law and the facts on your side,
[01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:01.560]  to think so is naive.
[01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:07.560]  You will only win your case if you have the politics on your side.
[01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:09.560]  Andrew, you're in Pennsylvania.
[01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:11.560]  Oh, Pennsylvania.
[01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:15.560]  Pennsylvania is different than any other state I've looked at.
[01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:21.560]  In Pennsylvania, your prosecutor is given prosecutorial discretion.
[01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:25.560]  And they seem not to understand what that means.
[01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:26.560]  They understand.
[01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.560]  They just try to take it to mean something else.
[01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:36.560]  So you file a complaint against an official with the police department,
[01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:40.560]  and they fail to take it, or they refuse to act on it.
[01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:46.560]  So you take a complaint against the police officer to the prosecuting attorney,
[01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:51.560]  and he's going to exercise prosecutorial discretion
[01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:53.560]  and decide not to pursue prosecution.
[01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:59.560]  Well, his problem in Pennsylvania is Pennsylvania, as far as I know,
[01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:05.560]  is the only state where a prosecutor has discretion.
[01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:12.560]  It is also the only state where the citizen has standing.
[01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:14.560]  I'm in Texas.
[01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.560]  I have a duty to file a criminal complaint
[01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.560]  if I have knowledge that a crime has been committed.
[01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:23.560]  But I have no standing in the adjudication of that case.
[01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.560]  You're in Pennsylvania.
[01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:31.560]  If the prosecutor fails to prosecute the case,
[01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:38.560]  you have standing to appeal his decision to the Court of Common Pleas.
[01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:43.560]  And what you complain about to the Court of Common Pleas
[01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:49.560]  is that the prosecutor did not exercise prosecutorial discretion.
[01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:54.560]  What he did was exercise prosecutorial caprice,
[01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:58.560]  and that is not an authority he has,
[01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:03.560]  wherein he decided who he wanted to prosecute
[01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:06.560]  and who he did not want to prosecute,
[01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:11.560]  rather than whether or not there was sufficient evidence
[01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:13.560]  to believe a crime has been committed
[01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.560]  and the accused had committed the crime.
[01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:19.560]  So you charge the prosecutor with shielding
[01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:25.560]  from prosecution, official misconduct, with the attorney general.
[01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:29.560]  The attorney general in Pennsylvania has prosecutorial powers.
[01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:34.560]  He also has prosecutorial duty.
[01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:38.560]  You file against the prosecuting attorney with the attorney general,
[01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:41.560]  and when he refuses to act,
[01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.560]  you appeal his refusal to the Court of Common Pleas.
[01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:48.560]  And when the Court of Common Pleas denies your appeal,
[01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:50.560]  then you go all the way up.
[01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:57.560]  You can take your appeals all the way to the Supreme Court.
[01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:00.560]  And if you take the attorney general with you,
[01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:07.560]  he is going to be a really unhappy camper
[01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:12.560]  because he knows full well that Jack Legg filed that complaint against me
[01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.560]  for political purposes,
[01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:19.560]  and he's going to go to my next election opponent
[01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:21.560]  and give those complaints to him.
[01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:24.560]  And my opponent is going to wave those in front of the public,
[01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:27.560]  saying the only way people can get justice
[01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:29.560]  is filing complaints against the attorney general,
[01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.560]  and the attorney general is going to say,
[01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:41.560]  oh, those complaints are frivolous. Problem. Perception is everything.
[01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.560]  By this method, you create some really ugly politics
[01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:49.560]  until the attorney general goes back to this prosecutor and says,
[01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:53.560]  I don't care what you did.
[01:15:53.560 --> 01:16:00.560]  You better fix this or the next time I will prosecute you.
[01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:03.560]  Does that make sense, Andrew?
[01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:05.560]  Yes, and well, I don't know.
[01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:08.560]  Is it worth actually experimenting with this?
[01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:12.560]  Because I actually have something that really disturbed the heck out of me that happened.
[01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:17.560]  Back in January, I went to the Edmonton Township Commissioners meeting
[01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:20.560]  to tell them that your red light cameras are illegal,
[01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:23.560]  and I even cited Eddie Craig's Infowars presentation,
[01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:26.560]  and I said what Eddie Craig does with the Texas black letter law
[01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:28.560]  can be done with Pennsylvania law,
[01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:30.560]  and I got the evidence right here.
[01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:34.560]  Well, the last newspaper at the headline said red light cameras installed,
[01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:36.560]  and then below that to make it even more insulting,
[01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:39.560]  the Edmonton Township police chief was named president
[01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:42.560]  of the Pennsylvania Police Association.
[01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.560]  Is there any way that I could potentially use what you just told me to my advantage
[01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.560]  to sue the heck out of us?
[01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:50.560]  Absolutely. Hang on. We're about to go to break.
[01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:53.560]  I need to cut this off. We've got two more calls.
[01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:56.560]  But we'll finish addressing this on the other side.
[01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:59.560]  We'll be right back.
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[01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:27.560]  Okay, we are back.
[01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:31.560]  Brenda Kelton and Deborah Stevens here with Andrew in Pennsylvania.
[01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.560]  And absolutely the thing of the red light camera
[01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.560]  is to create a new kind of crime, and that's crime by ownership.
[01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:46.560]  And if you really want to take this issue on,
[01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:54.560]  you might sue the county commissioners for instituting an illegal procedure
[01:19:54.560 --> 01:20:02.560]  for the purpose of collecting an illegal and unauthorized tax.
[01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:10.560]  Sue them knowing that what they're doing is improper.
[01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:17.560]  And it doesn't matter if you win the suit or not, they really hate to be sued.
[01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:21.560]  And if you cost them more in the lawsuit to fight your lawsuit
[01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:24.560]  than they make on the red light tickets,
[01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:29.560]  a lot of states have gotten rid of them just because they weren't profitable.
[01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:32.560]  It's about the money.
[01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:37.560]  So absolutely you could use this if you file against the county commissioners
[01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:46.560]  for instituting this illegal money collection scam.
[01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:51.560]  Have you been cited for one of these?
[01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:53.560]  No, I haven't.
[01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:56.560]  But I do have the whole things on film about me giving my ransom
[01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:00.560]  to the county commissioners and shot a film with a newspaper
[01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.560]  to say this is what it said, the proof that they ignored me.
[01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:05.560]  So if I were to take this to trial,
[01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:08.560]  I think I'd have a pretty good case of convincing everybody,
[01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:11.560]  yeah, the commissioners ignore the law.
[01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:13.560]  You might consider a court letter.
[01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:17.560]  We spoke about one of those earlier.
[01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:22.560]  But for the most part, they're going to do whatever they want to
[01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:28.560]  until you really beat them up because they get a lot of people complaining to them
[01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.560]  and for the most part they let people come in and complain
[01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.560]  and they just ignore it and when they're done complaining,
[01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:35.560]  they do whatever they want to.
[01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:39.560]  They almost never suffer consequences.
[01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:45.560]  The only way we're going to stop them is visiting consequences on them.
[01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:51.560]  And the reason they don't suffer consequences is because it's difficult.
[01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:53.560]  Everybody's corrupt.
[01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:56.560]  Everybody's going to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:59.560]  You've got to expect that.
[01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:03.560]  And the only thing we can hope to do is give them so much grief,
[01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:09.560]  create so much political pressure that it's not worth it.
[01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:15.560]  You might go down and do an information request for all of the citations filed
[01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:20.560]  and then do a mailing to everybody who's received one of these citations,
[01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:27.560]  show them how to fight it.
[01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:34.560]  If it costs them more to collect the fines than they're collecting,
[01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:40.560]  that's how you get it to go away.
[01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:42.560]  Okay, I really need to move on.
[01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.560]  I've got two more callers and they've been waiting a long time.
[01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:46.560]  Is there anything else?
[01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:49.560]  Does that pretty well address your question?
[01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:51.560]  Yeah, a couple of things to come to mind.
[01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:54.560]  But I guess next time Eddie Craig is on the show, I'll talk to him.
[01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:57.560]  He'll probably know something about this.
[01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:00.560]  No offense, he probably knows more than you because that's his expertise,
[01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:01.560]  transportation law.
[01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:03.560]  He knows the case law and I'm running the cameras,
[01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:05.560]  so maybe I can talk to him about that.
[01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:06.560]  Wait a minute.
[01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.560]  You said Eddie knows more than me.
[01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:11.560]  Oh, I didn't mean to...
[01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:12.560]  Wait, wait.
[01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:13.560]  You're right.
[01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:14.560]  He does.
[01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:17.560]  Yeah, that is his area and I tend to stay out of it.
[01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:19.560]  Yeah, just screw him with you, Randy.
[01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:20.560]  Sorry.
[01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:21.560]  Okay.
[01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:22.560]  Just joking.
[01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:23.560]  Okay.
[01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:24.560]  Thanks.
[01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:25.560]  Thank you, Andy.
[01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:26.560]  Randy.
[01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:27.560]  You're welcome.
[01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:30.560]  We're going to go to Gary in Texas.
[01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:32.560]  Hello, Gary.
[01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:33.560]  Hey, Randy.
[01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:34.560]  Good evening.
[01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:37.560]  Quick question for you.
[01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:47.560]  As a follow-up, I've got somebody that I'm helping and filed some criminal complaints
[01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:53.560]  with a district attorney and went and visited the district attorney to bring more
[01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:59.560]  complaints and of course he basically told me that he's not going to take them
[01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:05.560]  and told me that the complaints that I brought to him previously would not be
[01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:10.560]  acted upon because they did not come from a public official such as a sheriff
[01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.560]  or otherwise.
[01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:18.560]  So we've discussed what to do about him.
[01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:27.560]  My question this evening is I went to the court today with the intent of getting
[01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:37.560]  a writ of habeas corpus in front of a judge to try and put an end to the
[01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:42.560]  harassment that's going on with this person.
[01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:49.560]  And I went to the court and went to the county court judge office and was told
[01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:57.560]  that the county judge is out all week on some court seminar training.
[01:24:57.560 --> 01:24:59.560]  Yeah, we know about that training.
[01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:02.560]  A friend of mine is down there driving them crazy.
[01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:03.560]  Derek's had a dodeo.
[01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:05.560]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:08.560]  So I said, okay.
[01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:14.560]  So as I was walking out the door, I see the sign for a justice of the peace.
[01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.560]  So I knock on the door and go in and ask to see the JP.
[01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:21.560]  Well, he's not there either.
[01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:27.560]  And I said, well, is there a judge of any sort in the building?
[01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:31.560]  And they said, no, they're all gone.
[01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:35.560]  So I'm thinking, you know, obviously my question is, well, let's say somebody's
[01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:39.560]  bleeding inside a cell and I've got a writ of habeas corpus and there's nobody
[01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:44.560]  to hear it, where does that leave?
[01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:49.560]  Actually, a habeas would go to a district court.
[01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:54.560]  And the method for filing a habeas is you go to the district clerk and hand it
[01:25:54.560 --> 01:26:04.560]  to the district clerk and ask the clerk, will you take this to a judge or do I
[01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:08.560]  need to take it to the judge myself?
[01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:14.560]  And normally what's done is they will find a judge and take it to the judge
[01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:17.560]  immediately.
[01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:25.560]  And when I file one, I ask the clerk, which judge are you assigning this to?
[01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:28.560]  And do I need to take it to the judge or will you?
[01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:32.560]  And that's telling the clerk, don't mess with me.
[01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:36.560]  If you screw around, I'm going to take it to the judge anyway and then the judge
[01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:41.560]  is going to have to ask you why you didn't do your job.
[01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:50.560]  Habeas, the great writ, everything stands down before the habeas.
[01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:53.560]  So when you give it to the clerk, she has to give it to a judge.
[01:26:53.560 --> 01:27:00.560]  When I did that in Conroe, Montgomery County, they stopped a murder trial.
[01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:04.560]  I went into the courtroom and sat in the courtroom while they examined the
[01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:06.560]  witness.
[01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:10.560]  When they finished, they stopped the trial to hear my habeas.
[01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:12.560]  That's the procedure.
[01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:13.560]  Okay.
[01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:21.560]  I do know that tomorrow the district judge is in open court starting at 9 a.m.
[01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:22.560]  Good.
[01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:26.560]  9 a.m. be in front of the clerk, hand the habeas to her.
[01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:27.560]  Okay.
[01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:28.560]  All right.
[01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:34.560]  And ask her are you going to take this to the judge right now or should I?
[01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:41.560]  And regardless of what she does, you go to the court and hand a copy to the
[01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:48.560]  court coordinator and tell the coordinator make this, bring this to the
[01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:54.560]  attention of the judge immediately and then go sit in the courtroom.
[01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:55.560]  Okay.
[01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:58.560]  That will tell them you pretty well know what you're doing.
[01:27:58.560 --> 01:27:59.560]  Okay.
[01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:07.560]  Now on the habeas, Randy, I'm actually asking because of all of the sworn
[01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:17.560]  statements that were actually perjures on the part of DPS and I'm asking for
[01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:26.560]  also because the case has never been acted upon, court appointed attorney has
[01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:32.560]  never made contact, there's been no information received by mail or
[01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:38.560]  otherwise to appear in court to answer the accusations in over six months.
[01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:44.560]  The purpose of the habeas is to just end it.
[01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:45.560]  Yes.
[01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:51.560]  So you haven't done anything, you know, this person's liberty is at stake
[01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:53.560]  because he cannot get remedy.
[01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:57.560]  He has not been able to come before the court because the court hasn't called
[01:28:57.560 --> 01:28:58.560]  him.
[01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.560]  So just put an end to it, stop it, dismiss everything.
[01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:03.560]  Is that acceptable?
[01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:07.560]  That's the gist of the habeas.
[01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:09.560]  Is that acceptable?
[01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:22.560]  There is a question as to whether or not the judge can issue a ruling and if
[01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:28.560]  the judge, in thinking about it, if the judge could not issue a ruling on the
[01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:35.560]  constitutionality of the case, then there'd be no purpose for the habeas.
[01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:42.560]  But they may tell you that since the person's not incarcerated, that they
[01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:47.560]  won't act on the habeas, but you get it in front of them anyway and argue the
[01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:49.560]  issue.
[01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:55.560]  What this will do, and you know, I have Ken Magnuson address this issue.
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[01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:22.560]  Oh, I'ma say.
[01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:25.560]  Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening.
[01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:27.560]  Put a chip in your body.
[01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:29.560]  And anyway, you go computer reading.
[01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:31.560]  You can't hide me from nobody.
[01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:33.560]  Okay, I am back.
[01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:36.560]  Randy Kelton, Jeffery Stevens.
[01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:41.560]  I'm really having a problem with falling off the cliff tonight.
[01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:44.560]  Okay, Gary.
[01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:48.560]  Okay, what I was thinking, just to kind of state more clearly
[01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:50.560]  so you have more information.
[01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:58.560]  In this writ, we're highlighting all of the crimes
[01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:02.560]  that have been committed by law enforcement.
[01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:10.560]  And stating that because there's been no court action,
[01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:16.560]  no court date, no appointed counsel, no nothing,
[01:34:16.560 --> 01:34:21.560]  that this individual essentially has no remedy
[01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:23.560]  and that the case should be dismissed
[01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:27.560]  because of the perjurious documents submitted
[01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:31.560]  by the original arresting officer.
[01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:33.560]  Exactly, and in the end,
[01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:40.560]  it doesn't matter what the court does with the habeas
[01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:43.560]  because I assure you when the district judge
[01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:46.560]  gets finished reading that habeas,
[01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:49.560]  he's going to be on the phone making some calls
[01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:53.560]  wanting to know what the heck is going on down there.
[01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:58.560]  And in the end, it's not likely to be the statute
[01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:04.560]  or the adherence to rule of law that gets this case dropped.
[01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:10.560]  It will be the political pressure of the district court
[01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:14.560]  on the lower courts to fix this issue
[01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:17.560]  because it's bleeding out of their court into his court
[01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:20.560]  and he's not going to like having to deal with it.
[01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:28.560]  I will tell you that there is some underlying serious tension
[01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:31.560]  between the district court judge
[01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:34.560]  and the county court of law judge.
[01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:37.560]  There is some animosity there.
[01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:39.560]  Wonderful.
[01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:46.560]  Yeah, this may actually work in favor of this young man.
[01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:52.560]  Give a little political clout for this district judge.
[01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:54.560]  I once got all the highest judges in Texas
[01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:57.560]  put in front of a grand jury,
[01:35:57.560 --> 01:36:01.560]  but it had nothing to do with anything I did.
[01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:05.560]  25-year prosecuting attorney, Ron Earl,
[01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:07.560]  not running for office again.
[01:36:07.560 --> 01:36:10.560]  He's a Democrat, all 15 of these judges
[01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:13.560]  at the Court of Criminal Appeals are Republicans.
[01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:16.560]  He used my complaint as cannon fodder
[01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:20.560]  to try to take those guys out with him.
[01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:24.560]  Everything is political.
[01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:27.560]  If the district judge doesn't like the county judge
[01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:33.560]  and then the county judge's failure to control the people under him
[01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:35.560]  bleeds over into his court,
[01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:39.560]  this may be just what the district court wants.
[01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:43.560]  I will let you know how this goes, if possible,
[01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:47.560]  possibly call in tomorrow evening on the show.
[01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:49.560]  Wonderful.
[01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:53.560]  Just don't call in from a jail cell.
[01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:55.560]  No, no, no.
[01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:58.560]  I won't do that.
[01:36:58.560 --> 01:37:01.560]  Thank you, Gary.
[01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:03.560]  Okay, bye.
[01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:07.560]  Now we're going to go to Danny in Tennessee.
[01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:10.560]  Hello, Danny, what do you have for us tonight?
[01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:14.560]  Well, a couple of questions and then something else.
[01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:18.560]  You know, things brought up before is like
[01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:22.560]  doing a public filing in the public records
[01:37:22.560 --> 01:37:25.560]  and it said something before about having 20 days
[01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:29.560]  to perfect filing in the public record.
[01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:31.560]  Is that right?
[01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:34.560]  Texas is 15 days.
[01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:37.560]  You have 15 days to provide the records
[01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:44.560]  or request an opinion from the state attorney general.
[01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:50.560]  That's like property records.
[01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:53.560]  Well, yeah, any records that are...
[01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:55.560]  Yeah, property records would be under the Open Records Act.
[01:37:55.560 --> 01:37:59.560]  The only records that don't fall under the Open Records Act
[01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:01.560]  are court documents.
[01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:05.560]  And these are specific court documents
[01:38:05.560 --> 01:38:08.560]  in the adjudication of cases
[01:38:08.560 --> 01:38:11.560]  and not the administrative records of the court.
[01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:15.560]  The administrative records of the court fall under the Act.
[01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:18.560]  No, that's not what I'm talking about.
[01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:23.560]  Like a transfer of mortgage.
[01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:26.560]  Oh, all of those are absolutely public.
[01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:28.560]  You don't have to...
[01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:30.560]  Yeah, I'm talking about a public record request.
[01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:33.560]  I'm talking about the time between the signing of the document
[01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:35.560]  and getting it recorded.
[01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:37.560]  Oh, okay.
[01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:40.560]  Okay, let me explain that.
[01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:44.560]  When the document is signed,
[01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:54.560]  the claim is perfected for 21 days without filing.
[01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:57.560]  So they don't expect you to sign the document
[01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:00.560]  and charge down to the clerk's office
[01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:02.560]  and get it in the clerk's office
[01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:06.560]  before somebody can sneak in in front of you.
[01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:08.560]  You have 21 days to get it to them.
[01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:13.560]  If you get it in within 21 days, there can be no claim.
[01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:18.560]  However, it doesn't mean that you lose any claim.
[01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:25.560]  It's just that if you don't get your filing in the record within 21 days,
[01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:30.560]  every day after that, it's open season.
[01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:35.560]  If someone comes in with a mechanics lien on the 21st day,
[01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:37.560]  drops that mechanics lien in the...
[01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:39.560]  I'm sorry, the 22nd day,
[01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:43.560]  and drops that mechanic lien in the record,
[01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:46.560]  it stands in front of yours,
[01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:51.560]  because on the 22nd day, your claim is not perfected.
[01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:57.560]  You still have your claim, but you can't collect on your claim
[01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:00.560]  until it's filed in the record.
[01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:03.560]  Does that make sense, Kenny?
[01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:04.560]  Okay, well, yeah.
[01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:07.560]  I just wasn't sure what that requirement was.
[01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:11.560]  I thought it was a continuing defect of some kind.
[01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:13.560]  No, it's not a continuing defect.
[01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:20.560]  It's just that you have 21 free days.
[01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:26.560]  After that, first in time is first in line,
[01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:32.560]  so it doesn't interfere with your claim at all.
[01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:37.560]  Okay, another thing you have here is a deed of trust,
[01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:43.560]  and it's got a place for the loan number, but it's left in left blank.
[01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:49.560]  So how do we identify the loan for which this is the deed of trust
[01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:51.560]  other than the names?
[01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:58.560]  Well, you're talking about a loan number at the top of the document.
[01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:01.560]  No, this is down in it a little bit.
[01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:04.560]  Well, it's up in the heading of the document.
[01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:05.560]  Yeah, it's in the heading.
[01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:07.560]  You have the heading of the document,
[01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:17.560]  and then the first portion of the deed of trust is a set of definitions.
[01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:22.560]  And in those definitions, you will have the note referenced,
[01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:30.560]  and it will reference the note of a certain day for a loan
[01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:37.560]  where this property is granted as,
[01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:43.560]  where a claim is granted against this property to secure this loan.
[01:41:43.560 --> 01:41:51.560]  So the actual loan number is really not relevant,
[01:41:51.560 --> 01:41:59.560]  and that will often change when you get assignments of the security instrument.
[01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:03.560]  The loan numbers will often change when it's sold to another entity
[01:42:03.560 --> 01:42:08.560]  or negotiated, supposedly negotiated to another entity.
[01:42:08.560 --> 01:42:16.560]  So that number up at the top has no adjudicatable relevance.
[01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:21.560]  Excuse me, relevance.
[01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:23.560]  Okay.
[01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:26.560]  Okay.
[01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:30.560]  All right, the other thing, I know last week you were talking about my notices
[01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:38.560]  about the process and the Code of Criminal Procedure for misdemeanors,
[01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:42.560]  and I emailed you just, well, I meant to do it sooner than this,
[01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:49.560]  but only about 7.30, and...
[01:42:49.560 --> 01:42:57.560]  I don't remember an email from you.
[01:42:57.560 --> 01:42:59.560]  Well, it was just before the show started, so...
[01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:04.560]  Oh, okay.
[01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:06.560]  Okay, hold on.
[01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:07.560]  We're about to go to break.
[01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:09.560]  We've got about, just go quickly.
[01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:12.560]  We've got about 50 seconds.
[01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:13.560]  Okay.
[01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:16.560]  Well, we talked about this a few times before,
[01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:19.560]  but you never get it where you've got the document in front of you.
[01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:20.560]  Oh, okay.
[01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:22.560]  Then this is good timing.
[01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:26.560]  We're about to go to break, and I will check my email while we're on break,
[01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:29.560]  and we can discuss it when we come back.
[01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:30.560]  All right.
[01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:34.560]  And at this time, I'm actually not going to fall off the cliff.
[01:43:34.560 --> 01:43:39.560]  I've been talking through the outro the whole night,
[01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:41.560]  at least once I won't do that.
[01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:42.560]  Hang on, Danny.
[01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:44.560]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens,
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[01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:50.560]  I don't know why I'm giving that.
[01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:52.560]  This is the last segment.
[01:43:52.560 --> 01:43:54.560]  I'm having one of those days.
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[01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:13.560]  Hello? Oh, man, in jail.
[01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:23.560]  You got something? Oh, man, I'm broke, man.
[01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:27.560]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.560]  I realize fully.
[01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:35.560]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:46:35.560 --> 01:46:39.560]  Somebody's gonna police him fully.
[01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:44.560]  There's always a room at the top of the hill.
[01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:48.560]  I hear things are great, fine, and it's lonely there, too.
[01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:52.560]  They're wishing it was more than I position the bill.
[01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:56.560]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:00.560]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:04.560]  I realize fully.
[01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:09.560]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:13.560]  Somebody's gonna police him fully.
[01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:15.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:17.560]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill.
[01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:19.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:21.560]  Because I see so much injustice in.
[01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:23.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:26.560]  And I'll never fail to tip back that scale.
[01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:27.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:30.560]  And I'll never fail to tip back the scale.
[01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:34.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:37.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:39.560]  I never know.
[01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:40.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:43.560]  Station hours, huh?
[01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:47.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:48.560]  I know they will.
[01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:51.560]  Went down to that old quarry the other day.
[01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:53.560]  Okay, we are back.
[01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:58.560]  And we're talking to Danny in Tennessee.
[01:47:58.560 --> 01:48:00.560]  Danny, I have all three documents up.
[01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.560]  Which one did you want me to look at?
[01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:06.560]  The notice of process.
[01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:08.560]  That one I didn't see.
[01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.560]  I got a cover letter.
[01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:15.560]  I got a notice of lack of jurisdiction.
[01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:18.560]  And an affidavit.
[01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:20.560]  Oh, once again, you didn't get it.
[01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:30.560]  I don't know what's, well.
[01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:34.560]  Okay, tell me about the notice of process.
[01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:38.560]  Okay, the whole thing is here is before you go to court the first time,
[01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:46.560]  which like a traffic citation, it says you go before a magistrate.
[01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:53.560]  And then this just gives us steps from that through the magistrate and on after that.
[01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:56.560]  This is on a criminal accusation.
[01:48:56.560 --> 01:48:57.560]  Right.
[01:48:57.560 --> 01:48:58.560]  Right.
[01:48:58.560 --> 01:48:59.560]  Okay.
[01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:03.560]  And prior to a misdemeanor.
[01:49:03.560 --> 01:49:10.560]  And then, you know, things you brought up before like Article 1517 for examining hearing.
[01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:18.560]  And at the end of that, the magistrate is supposed to certify the proceeding and seal them up
[01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:22.560]  and have them delivered to the proper court without delay.
[01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:24.560]  That's Article 1730.
[01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:28.560]  17.30, Texas Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:32.560]  The seal all documents, the magistrate shall seal all documents had in the hearing,
[01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:39.560]  including the complaint and it lists a couple others and all of the documents had in the hearing
[01:49:39.560 --> 01:49:46.560]  in the envelope with his name, his name is to be written across the seal of the envelope.
[01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:51.560]  Now that is really, really clear on the part of the legislature.
[01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:58.560]  The only place I've ever seen where someone is required to seal a document
[01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:05.560]  and cause their name to be written across the seal and forward it to the clerk for the court of jurisdiction.
[01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:06.560]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:08.560]  I'll stop interrupting.
[01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:13.560]  Well, what I remember it saying is the proper court.
[01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:20.560]  And in 1731, it identifies the two clerks, and that's the district clerk and the county clerk.
[01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:25.560]  And the district clerk shall deliver them to the next grand jury in the county.
[01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:30.560]  Shall keep all these papers safe and deliver them up to the next grand jury.
[01:50:30.560 --> 01:50:42.560]  But the last time I read that, it had been adjusted where it referenced the county court in misdemeanors.
[01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:45.560]  They changed the code.
[01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:56.560]  What I don't know is whether or not they changed the statute, the actual public law.
[01:50:56.560 --> 01:51:03.560]  I'll have to go check that again. Last time I looked, I thought it was still saying that.
[01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:06.560]  I'll have it up here in just a second.
[01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.560]  Last time I read it, I was surprised at what I saw there.
[01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:14.560]  But then again, they're publishing these things.
[01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:22.560]  And this is what Ralph Winterwood meant when he said the statutes don't apply.
[01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:36.560]  When he said the statutes don't apply, what he was referring to was the codified statutes.
[01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:39.560]  The codified statutes don't apply.
[01:51:39.560 --> 01:51:52.560]  Well, the codified statutes are merely prima facie evidence of the existence of the public law.
[01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:57.560]  It is the public law that actually applies.
[01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:00.560]  That makes sense.
[01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:02.560]  So you need to look at the statute.
[01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:15.560]  That's why sometimes I have trouble when I read a statute that does not seem to comport with the public law.
[01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:18.560]  There's a number of them that way.
[01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:25.560]  So if nobody raises the issue, then they'll treat it as if it is accurate.
[01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:32.560]  And here I have 1731, duty of clerks he receives.
[01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:34.560]  17.30 shall certify proceedings.
[01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:42.560]  The magistrate before whom an examination has taken place upon a criminal accusation shall certify to all proceedings had before him,
[01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:46.560]  as well as where he discharges, holds to bail if commits,
[01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:52.560]  and transmit them sealed up to the court before which the defendant may be tried,
[01:52:52.560 --> 01:52:56.560]  writing his name across the seals of the envelope.
[01:52:56.560 --> 01:53:00.560]  The voluntary statement of the defendant, testimony, bail bonds,
[01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:08.560]  and every other proceeding in the case shall be thus delivered to the clerk of the proper court without delay.
[01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:12.560]  1731, duty of clerks who receive such proceedings.
[01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:18.560]  If the proceedings be delivered to a district clerk, he shall keep them safely and deliver the same to the next grand jury.
[01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:26.560]  If the proceedings are delivered to a county clerk, he shall, without delay, deliver them to the district or county attorney of his county.
[01:53:26.560 --> 01:53:30.560]  That's what was changed that last sentence.
[01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:34.560]  I don't remember seeing that in there 10 years ago.
[01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:38.560]  And I have no knowledge that this thing has been changed.
[01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:42.560]  This act has been the same since 1965.
[01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:49.560]  No changes to it, so I'd need to go back and look at the public law.
[01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:53.560]  Yeah, well, that 1731 is what I was working on.
[01:53:53.560 --> 01:54:05.560]  So by what I see it's saying is that those are the two clerks that are authorized to receive these proceedings from the magistrate.
[01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:06.560]  Yes.
[01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:12.560]  The JP court, he doesn't just hand them over to his clerk for trial later.
[01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:14.560]  It's got to go off up there.
[01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:23.560]  And if you keep on stepping through it, well, the Class C, the DA's office is not going to be dealing with it in the county court
[01:54:23.560 --> 01:54:26.560]  because the county court doesn't have jurisdiction.
[01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:28.560]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:42.560]  They changed, the legislature changed the JP court rules, and they changed it such that the rules of civil procedure,
[01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:49.560]  the code of criminal procedure no longer applies to the JP municipal courts.
[01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:51.560]  Well, it did.
[01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:52.560]  When did that happen?
[01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:54.560]  I haven't heard that.
[01:54:54.560 --> 01:54:56.560]  Pardon me?
[01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:58.560]  I said when did that happen? I haven't heard that.
[01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:01.560]  Last legislature just went into effect.
[01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:02.560]  Oh.
[01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:07.560]  And Ken is working on that, and this is a horrible mess.
[01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:11.560]  This is going to create a horrible constitutional conflict.
[01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:13.560]  Yeah.
[01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:19.560]  It's essentially telling the JP judges, they can do anything they want to.
[01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:23.560]  Yeah, it seems like it.
[01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:32.560]  So I'd suggest you go back and reread the, I think it's section 45.
[01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:34.560]  Yeah, that's the...
[01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:40.560]  That covers JP's because it's quite a bit different.
[01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:42.560]  Ken has been working on that.
[01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:47.560]  He has an issue in the courts, and they're applying the new rules to his,
[01:55:47.560 --> 01:55:52.560]  even though his case was in the courts before the new rules came into effect.
[01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:56.560]  And in that case, the new rules don't apply to him.
[01:55:56.560 --> 01:56:00.560]  He still works for the old rules.
[01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:05.560]  But with what they passed, you don't have to give notice.
[01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:10.560]  They just do anything they want to, apparently.
[01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:15.560]  Okay.
[01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:19.560]  All right, well, I guess I'll let you go for the night, then.
[01:56:19.560 --> 01:56:23.560]  Oh, you're going to let me off the hook, huh?
[01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:24.560]  Yeah, for now.
[01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:26.560]  Plus, my time's about up.
[01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:29.560]  I'm about to drop off of here, I think.
[01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:33.560]  Okay, well, thank you very much, Danny, for calling in.
[01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:36.560]  This is Randy Kelton.
[01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:39.560]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Bluebell Radio.
[01:56:39.560 --> 01:56:41.560]  We do have a couple minutes.
[01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:47.560]  I did want to go into short sales.
[01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:50.560]  We had a lot of calls tonight, which was great.
[01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:52.560]  We always like to cause.
[01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:59.560]  So tomorrow night, when we start out, I will start out by going into short sales.
[01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:07.560]  I have the freemortgagehelp.net site up, and I would like anyone who's listening,
[01:57:07.560 --> 01:57:13.560]  if you have some time, go look at it and give me a critique on it.
[01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:16.560]  Tell me what makes sense, what doesn't make sense.
[01:57:16.560 --> 01:57:21.560]  And in there, in the site, you will see some maps.
[01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:32.560]  There is one map that essentially has all of our current accumulated knowledge on the subject.
[01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:35.560]  Well, the intent is for it to have all of our knowledge on the subject.
[01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:44.560]  We don't have all of the research that we have organized in there yet.
[01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:50.560]  And it's because we're developing a somewhat different technology for viewing it.
[01:57:50.560 --> 01:57:54.560]  Generally, when you do legal research, the hardest part of legal research
[01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:57.560]  is finding the first case on point.
[01:57:57.560 --> 01:58:01.560]  Well, we've developed a questionnaire that goes to all the legal points.
[01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:06.560]  And everywhere we ask the question that goes to a legal point,
[01:58:06.560 --> 01:58:17.560]  we're developing a folder that we can attach to the map where we can put all of our case law on those points.
[01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:20.560]  So instead of looking for the first case on point, you just look for the point,
[01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:22.560]  and you find out your case law there.
[01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:25.560]  So, but having a look at it, give me some critique on it.
[01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:27.560]  I'd like to give you a feedback.
[01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:36.560]  This is Randy Calton, David Stevens, Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday, the 7th of October.
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