[00:00.000 --> 00:07.680] This is The Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist updates, online [00:07.680 --> 00:08.680] at TheLibertyBeat.com. [00:08.680 --> 00:13.480] I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Monday, August 4th, 2014. [00:13.480 --> 00:22.020] Gold opens today at $1,295, silver open at $20.41, and Bitcoin is trading around $586. [00:22.020 --> 00:26.280] Support for The Liberty Beat comes from Affordable Sound, CD and DVD duplications for all your [00:26.280 --> 00:28.480] print and audio duplication needs. [00:28.480 --> 00:34.120] Mention promo code LIBERTY and get 5% off all DVD and CD duplication jobs, online at [00:34.120 --> 00:39.600] AffordableSound.com, or call them up at 512-459-5253. 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[04:48.000 --> 04:53.000] Now, before I start taking your calls, there's something that I need to address. [04:53.000 --> 04:57.000] Right now, it's going on on the Facebook page, but that's not the first place or the only place [04:57.000 --> 05:01.000] where this kind of thing goes on on a regular basis, unfortunately. [05:01.000 --> 05:10.000] But what I want to address right now is patronut case law and some of the patronut theories [05:10.000 --> 05:14.000] associated with this fabricated patronut case law. [05:14.000 --> 05:24.000] Now, I'm going to read you what is alleged to be a site from a 1795 Supreme Court of the United States case. [05:24.000 --> 05:30.000] Now, I want you to listen to the contents of what I read very carefully. [05:30.000 --> 05:37.000] Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, [05:37.000 --> 05:41.000] a government can interface only with other artificial persons, [05:41.000 --> 05:50.000] the imaginary having neither actuality nor substance is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. [05:50.000 --> 05:56.000] The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, et cetera, [05:56.000 --> 06:02.000] can concern itself with anything other than corporate artificial persons and the contracts between them. [06:02.000 --> 06:07.000] Now, this is cited as a case Penhall v. Doan's Administrators. [06:07.000 --> 06:10.000] It's got a complete site and everything. [06:10.000 --> 06:18.000] However, when you look up the case, this site isn't in it. [06:18.000 --> 06:21.000] Not anywhere, not in any way. [06:21.000 --> 06:25.000] Ninety percent of the words in this site aren't in there. [06:25.000 --> 06:36.000] Nor does this site use any of the language peculiar and specific to the era of 1795. [06:36.000 --> 06:41.000] It is completely and totally fabricated. [06:41.000 --> 06:50.000] Now, this is one of many types of cases floating around in the patronet community that do this. [06:50.000 --> 06:53.000] If you noticed anything about this site, [06:53.000 --> 07:02.000] this site appears to contain every silver bullet idea that has been thrown out over the decades [07:02.000 --> 07:11.000] by people saying that the government can't do this or corporations can't do that all because they're artificial. [07:11.000 --> 07:15.000] Well, I made a rebuttal to this and I posted it out there, [07:15.000 --> 07:22.000] and so far everybody agrees with what I posted on it on why this is stupid. [07:22.000 --> 07:27.000] But I want you to understand something that was asked in relation to it. [07:27.000 --> 07:34.000] One of my statements in this is stop posting this stuff because people that don't know any better are believing it. [07:34.000 --> 07:38.000] They're using it and they're getting hurt in court because of it. [07:38.000 --> 07:43.000] And the guy that posted this had the audacity to respond back and say, [07:43.000 --> 07:52.000] I didn't ask anybody to believe it, yet he posts it up here claiming that it is some sort of lawful authority. [07:52.000 --> 07:56.000] But he didn't expect anybody to believe it. [07:56.000 --> 07:58.000] That's idiocy. [07:58.000 --> 08:01.000] But in any case, one guy asked this question. [08:01.000 --> 08:07.000] Although I'm not sure this is relevant, but I do seem to remember Miras, I'm assuming Michael Miras, [08:07.000 --> 08:11.000] saying in his material that corporations cannot sue the living man. [08:11.000 --> 08:15.000] Is that what this is saying or no? [08:15.000 --> 08:20.000] Are we just talking simply on the not a silver bullet aspect of it? [08:20.000 --> 08:24.000] Well, this is what I responded back. [08:24.000 --> 08:28.000] If a legal entity could not contract with a man, [08:28.000 --> 08:33.000] then how does one expect to enforce their product warranties for things they buy? [08:33.000 --> 08:34.000] You go out and you buy a refrigerator. [08:34.000 --> 08:35.000] It's got a product warranty. [08:35.000 --> 08:44.000] That product warranty is a contract between you and the manufacturer of that machine who is almost guaranteed to be a legal entity [08:44.000 --> 08:50.000] that if anything goes wrong with that machine in a specified period of time of a specific type of malfunction, [08:50.000 --> 08:56.000] manufacture, or defect, then they will take care of it. [08:56.000 --> 08:59.000] It's not out of your pocket. [08:59.000 --> 09:00.000] That's an agreement, folks. [09:00.000 --> 09:08.000] And it is between you and this artificial entity dealing with something you purchased from an artificial entity. [09:08.000 --> 09:10.000] Okay? [09:10.000 --> 09:18.000] Not only does it deal with product warranties, how do you agree and accept a software usage agreement? [09:18.000 --> 09:21.000] When you buy a piece of software and you install it, at the end of it, [09:21.000 --> 09:23.000] it's got a usage agreement for that piece of software. [09:23.000 --> 09:26.000] Accept it or don't install it. [09:26.000 --> 09:33.000] And almost guaranteed, it is some software company, a legal entity, that produced it and is selling it to you [09:33.000 --> 09:40.000] or providing it to you under whatever conditions are in that agreement. [09:40.000 --> 09:49.000] And last but not least, you purchase products every single day that's designed, built, and sold by legal entities, [09:49.000 --> 09:55.000] incorporated entities, all over the entire globe. [09:55.000 --> 09:56.000] Okay? [09:56.000 --> 10:04.000] How do you do business with a legal entity by purchasing its products if it can only deal with legal entities? [10:04.000 --> 10:11.000] Just common sense reasoning should tell you no court would ever say this. [10:11.000 --> 10:19.000] No court would say half the stuff that's in these paper-nut cited cases that don't exist. [10:19.000 --> 10:27.000] There have been very, very few of these cases that I have ever read that actually contain the site [10:27.000 --> 10:31.000] that is being put out there as having any real value. [10:31.000 --> 10:35.000] There are some, but there are not nearly as many. [10:35.000 --> 10:47.000] And they don't actually say anything of this caliber of stupidity in the actual opinion. [10:47.000 --> 10:57.000] I am going to beg you before you use a site from a case, regardless of where you found it, [10:57.000 --> 11:05.000] unless you actually found it in the printed book originally, that no matter where else you may get it, [11:05.000 --> 11:10.000] I don't care if it's Lexus, I don't care if it's something somebody printed out and handed to you, [11:10.000 --> 11:15.000] if it's off of the United States Supreme Court website. [11:15.000 --> 11:24.000] Do not trust it until you have compared it to the printed volume of that opinion [11:24.000 --> 11:28.000] as it was published in the law books. [11:28.000 --> 11:33.000] Just don't do it. [11:33.000 --> 11:41.000] People are getting seriously harmed in courts, and not only are they getting harmed, [11:41.000 --> 11:47.000] that harm cascades down to the next person behind them trying to fight their own fight. [11:47.000 --> 11:51.000] And even if they have a correct site and a correct argument, [11:51.000 --> 11:57.000] no court wants to listen to them because they've already had ten morons parade up in front of them [11:57.000 --> 12:04.000] using stuff like this and saying it's valid. [12:04.000 --> 12:11.000] This is the kind of stuff that prevents us from getting a toehold on being heard in the courts without lawyers. [12:11.000 --> 12:18.000] But you know, the astounding thing is, lawyers are just as guilty of fabricating case citations [12:18.000 --> 12:26.000] that will favor the outcome of their way of needing a case to go as these idiotic patronuts are. [12:26.000 --> 12:31.000] I have taken lawyer pleadings apart and pulled up those cases, [12:31.000 --> 12:37.000] and nothing that lawyer put in that pleading was in that case, nothing. [12:37.000 --> 12:45.000] Even when the lawyer made an inference as to what the case was actually about, it was wrong. [12:45.000 --> 12:49.000] And yet, if you go up there and you put something up there citing a case that, say, [12:49.000 --> 12:52.000] had something to do with the sale of a piece of land, [12:52.000 --> 12:59.000] but there was a specific site in it dealing with the enforcement power of the contract [12:59.000 --> 13:02.000] without the state interfering with it and so on and so forth, [13:02.000 --> 13:06.000] some lawyer will come back and try to say that that's not an on-point argument [13:06.000 --> 13:11.000] because you're talking about the contract and not the piece of land and the sale of it. [13:11.000 --> 13:18.000] Well, how do you conduct the sale of a piece of land without the contract, you twit? [13:18.000 --> 13:23.000] But they do it. All the time, they do it. [13:23.000 --> 13:25.000] Which leads me to the other part I want to discuss, [13:25.000 --> 13:28.000] which I'm probably going to have to need part of the next segment to finish, guys, [13:28.000 --> 13:31.000] so you, the guys that are already up on the board, please hold on. [13:31.000 --> 13:34.000] Glenn, John, don't go anywhere. I'll get to y'all as soon as I'm done with this, [13:34.000 --> 13:38.000] which should be next section if I don't get it here. [13:38.000 --> 13:42.000] But let's talk for a minute about some of these things going on in the patronet community. [13:42.000 --> 13:46.000] As an example, and not to pick on it specifically, but since it's there, [13:46.000 --> 13:52.000] this accepted for value stuff where they want to tell you that you can access the funds, [13:52.000 --> 13:58.000] allegedly millions and millions of dollars, sitting out there waiting for your greedy little hands [13:58.000 --> 14:02.000] to call upon it and bring it forth as a river of money [14:02.000 --> 14:08.000] to take care of all of your financial woes just by demanding it. [14:08.000 --> 14:12.000] Now, I'm pretty sure that basically sums it all up. [14:12.000 --> 14:18.000] You write a see my accountant note on any bill or judgment against you, [14:18.000 --> 14:22.000] and then you tell them your accountant is the United States federal government [14:22.000 --> 14:28.000] in the form of the Social Security Administration, send the bill to them. [14:28.000 --> 14:34.000] Now, folks, I have spent a lot of years doing this, and one of the very first things I tore apart, [14:34.000 --> 14:39.000] because the first real question ever asked of me about any of this [14:39.000 --> 14:42.000] outside of the property tax issue with my mother, [14:42.000 --> 14:47.000] the first real issue that ever got my attention on what the federal government was doing to us, [14:47.000 --> 14:56.000] began with the question, have you ever heard that Americans are not required to have a Social Security number? [14:56.000 --> 15:00.000] Now, granted, at the time, I'd look at the person that asked this question, [15:00.000 --> 15:04.000] who is now one of my dearest friends, and I say, you're nuts. [15:04.000 --> 15:06.000] Of course you got to have one of those. [15:06.000 --> 15:10.000] How do you expect to get a job and get paid and get your paycheck, get a bank account, [15:10.000 --> 15:15.000] or all these other things where they demand that number from you on a daily basis? [15:15.000 --> 15:18.000] How do you plan to do that if you don't have to have one? [15:18.000 --> 15:22.000] He said, well, I'm just telling you what I heard. [15:22.000 --> 15:32.000] That was my complete and total undoing, because I was determined to find out how much truth was in that question, [15:32.000 --> 15:38.000] and not against him, but simply to show him, okay, I don't know where you got the question from, [15:38.000 --> 15:41.000] but here's what I found, and the facts show that it's wrong. [15:41.000 --> 15:45.000] Unfortunately, the facts did not show that it was wrong. [15:45.000 --> 15:50.000] The facts showed exactly what the premise of the question was based on. [15:50.000 --> 15:52.000] Does an American have to have it? [15:52.000 --> 15:54.000] The answer is absolutely not. [15:54.000 --> 15:58.000] Even the Social Security Administration's web page says, [15:58.000 --> 16:00.000] Social Security numbers are not mandatory for Americans. [16:00.000 --> 16:02.000] Never has been. [16:02.000 --> 16:07.000] And then they go onto the spiel, but you may need it if you want all these other benefits and privileges. [16:07.000 --> 16:08.000] Well, I'm going to... [16:08.000 --> 16:12.000] Now, this is the one thing in the accepted for value bull crap that I've ever heard [16:12.000 --> 16:15.000] that actually makes sense in that specific context. [16:15.000 --> 16:18.000] Well, I waived the benefit and the privilege. [16:18.000 --> 16:23.000] I want the number, but at the same time, I can't sit here and claim that I can have access [16:23.000 --> 16:30.000] to the money that's been taken from me unlawfully, illegally, and by fraud that's in that account, [16:30.000 --> 16:34.000] because the federal government, their courts have already ruled numerous times [16:34.000 --> 16:40.000] Social Security is not a contract, it is not a guarantee, it is not an insurance policy, [16:40.000 --> 16:45.000] and if you don't meet all the requirements set up by the agency, you will never get the benefit, [16:45.000 --> 16:50.000] and they can stop it any time they want and dissolve the entire system. [16:50.000 --> 16:52.000] So we'll get back to that in a minute on the other side. [16:52.000 --> 16:57.000] This is Rule of Law Radio calling number 512-646-1984. [16:57.000 --> 17:00.000] We will be right back. 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[19:41.000 --> 19:45.000] I didn't get the time to do it before we got started, but I just put one up in case anybody's wondering. [19:45.000 --> 19:50.000] Okay, now, before we get to the callers, one last thing dealing with this Social Security stuff. [19:50.000 --> 19:58.000] Now, it is an extensive act to have to read through the Social Security Act to find out the things that I found out. [19:58.000 --> 20:03.000] And it's related to several other acts, for instance, the Privacy Act of 1974, [20:03.000 --> 20:09.000] which makes it illegal for any federal, state, or local government agency to deprive any person of a right, [20:09.000 --> 20:16.000] benefit, or privilege guaranteed by law because of that person's refusal to disclose that Social Security number. [20:16.000 --> 20:21.000] Now, that statute specifically says that they can request it. [20:21.000 --> 20:27.000] And if they are trying to make it mandatory, they must state when the program that it was made mandatory under [20:27.000 --> 20:36.000] actually went into force in effect, and if it was prior to 1975, then they could make it mandatory. [20:36.000 --> 20:43.000] But if it was after 1975, they cannot make it mandatory. [20:43.000 --> 20:50.000] So most of the things that the states are doing these days that say they have every right to demand [20:50.000 --> 20:55.000] that can deny you in getting whatever it is you're after for that Social Security number not being given [20:55.000 --> 21:02.000] is baloney. It's a felony for them to do that. [21:02.000 --> 21:10.000] It's a $10,000 fine for them to do that each and every time they do it under the Privacy Act. [21:10.000 --> 21:15.000] Now, when you're reading through the Social Security Act, I want you to understand something. [21:15.000 --> 21:20.000] Yes, it is true. It reads like stereo assembly instructions. [21:20.000 --> 21:26.000] In fact, it reads like stereo assembly instructions written by a blind, deaf, mute, ADD-afflicted, [21:26.000 --> 21:31.000] dyslexic who received a total amount of their stereo assembly and cable hookup training [21:31.000 --> 21:34.000] reading waffle irons down at Kmart. [21:34.000 --> 21:38.000] Yes, it's that convoluted. It can be that difficult. [21:38.000 --> 21:43.000] It takes an effort to do, but it can be done, all right? [21:43.000 --> 21:49.000] And like everything else I tell you, please do not take my word for it. [21:49.000 --> 21:56.000] This case law idiocy that's going on is a perfect example of why you shouldn't be taking anyone's word [21:56.000 --> 22:01.000] about anything that you have not verified for yourself. [22:01.000 --> 22:08.000] Especially before you go and try and use it in a court of law that's going to do its best to chew you up [22:08.000 --> 22:14.000] and spit you out if you make any mistakes at all. [22:14.000 --> 22:23.000] When you go into that courtroom arguing a case and a position, you better be as bulletproof as you can possibly be. [22:23.000 --> 22:30.000] You go in there with this stuff, you are a bullet magnet. [22:30.000 --> 22:37.000] And they ain't going to have any way to miss you using stuff like this. [22:37.000 --> 22:43.000] So if any of these folks that are listening to my voice are also reading what I put up on Facebook, [22:43.000 --> 22:45.000] you better take that to heart. [22:45.000 --> 22:53.000] I'm not trying to say that I know more or know better or am smarter than anybody else, okay? [22:53.000 --> 23:02.000] But I'm not following you off of a cliff when I know what's at the bottom ain't going to do me one bit of good, okay? [23:02.000 --> 23:13.000] I'm not a lemming and I'm trying to keep you from being a lemming because a lemming is not a good thing to be. [23:13.000 --> 23:15.000] Neither is a sheep. [23:15.000 --> 23:18.000] So if you're going to fight, don't do it like the lemming. [23:18.000 --> 23:19.000] The lemmings do. [23:19.000 --> 23:23.000] Just follow the leader over the cliff. [23:23.000 --> 23:25.000] It's not good. [23:25.000 --> 23:26.000] All right. [23:26.000 --> 23:31.000] All that being said, I hope everybody will take that to heart and do something good with it and protect themselves. [23:31.000 --> 23:47.000] Please, Lord in heaven, protect yourselves from this level of ignorance that is being put out there as legal truth because it certainly isn't. [23:47.000 --> 23:48.000] All right. [23:48.000 --> 23:52.000] Now we're going to start taking calls and we are going to start with Glenn in Texas. [23:52.000 --> 23:55.000] Glenn, what can we do for you? [23:55.000 --> 23:57.000] Hey, thanks for taking my call, Eddie. [23:57.000 --> 24:05.000] I got, if I could give you a brief summation of what I've experienced and then a couple of questions I'd like your insight on if I could. [24:05.000 --> 24:06.000] I'll make it real brief. [24:06.000 --> 24:16.000] Long story short, I got multiple agencies involved in multiple felonies to extort my private property, my boat on Labor Day weekend a couple of years ago. [24:16.000 --> 24:24.000] The officer, the first on the scene, knew the two felons that were stealing my boat and lied on the police report to aid them rather than, you know, [24:24.000 --> 24:27.000] give me equal rights and protections under the law. [24:27.000 --> 24:32.000] So since then, I've gone up the chain of command trying to protect that property, including public property. [24:32.000 --> 24:33.000] Okay. [24:33.000 --> 24:34.000] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. [24:34.000 --> 24:41.000] That's a very glossed over set of details as far as the relationship of you to the property. [24:41.000 --> 24:42.000] Okay. [24:42.000 --> 24:48.000] It's my boat registered in my name, sole owner, no lien, no way you can dispute that it's my boat. [24:48.000 --> 24:58.000] Okay. And no bill of sale or any other transfer of monies or goods or of any kind in exchange for that boat between you and these people that were allegedly stealing it? [24:58.000 --> 24:59.000] No, sir. [24:59.000 --> 25:00.000] No, sir. [25:00.000 --> 25:01.000] Not at all. [25:01.000 --> 25:02.000] Okay. [25:02.000 --> 25:07.000] And did you have any other relationship with the people that were allegedly stealing it? [25:07.000 --> 25:08.000] No. [25:08.000 --> 25:11.000] So you didn't even know them? [25:11.000 --> 25:13.000] I didn't know them on site. [25:13.000 --> 25:20.000] I heard of one of the captains involved with it, there's two sea tow companies down here, Sea Tow and Tow Boat US. [25:20.000 --> 25:21.000] Okay, wait a minute. [25:21.000 --> 25:24.000] This was a towing company that was taking your boat? [25:24.000 --> 25:25.000] No. [25:25.000 --> 25:26.000] No. [25:26.000 --> 25:28.000] My boat was moved under its own power. [25:28.000 --> 25:30.000] My anchor rope was cut. [25:30.000 --> 25:41.000] It was anchored out on a public waterway on Labor Day week, and I was away from the boat being driven around by the hands of a friend of mine and a couple of others while we were away from the boat about 10 minutes away. [25:41.000 --> 25:46.000] I'm very well known on the lake because I work on it and I've lived in this area all my life. [25:46.000 --> 25:47.000] Okay. [25:47.000 --> 25:55.000] The boat was in the possession and control of someone that you knew when it was taken or it was just anchored there empty? [25:55.000 --> 26:05.000] It was anchored on a public waterway, perfectly legal by maritime law on Labor Day weekend, a weekend for lots of boaters. [26:05.000 --> 26:06.000] Okay. [26:06.000 --> 26:07.000] All right. [26:07.000 --> 26:15.000] Now, my boat was, my anchor rope was cut, my boat was started up under its own power and moved from the far west end of the lake, under the bridge, [26:15.000 --> 26:20.000] at Sea Bridge Shib Yard by two unknown felons that still were not on the police report. [26:20.000 --> 26:22.000] The positive IDs were never known. [26:22.000 --> 26:30.000] The only way I knew that this first officer on the scene knew it was I had gone to high school with the chief of police at that time. [26:30.000 --> 26:39.000] That was trying to make sense of why a positive ID was not ascertained on the two felons at the time of the call because I called this in- [26:39.000 --> 26:40.000] Okay. [26:40.000 --> 26:41.000] Wait, wait, wait. [26:41.000 --> 26:42.000] All right. [26:42.000 --> 26:43.000] Wait. [26:43.000 --> 26:45.000] Who witnessed them take the boat? [26:45.000 --> 26:49.000] Me, another boater and- [26:49.000 --> 26:53.000] Did the other boater know the identity of the guys taking your boat? [26:53.000 --> 26:58.000] No, but he witnessed a boat that pulled up to my boat that had three men on it. [26:58.000 --> 27:00.000] An anchor that far from where- [27:00.000 --> 27:01.000] Okay, wait, wait. [27:01.000 --> 27:02.000] That's not where I'm going with this. [27:02.000 --> 27:09.000] I'm just trying to establish a set of facts here that will allow me to draw this picture in my mind to see who knows who about what. [27:09.000 --> 27:11.000] Now, the boat's anchored in the water. [27:11.000 --> 27:18.000] You and some other stranger to you see somebody unknown to both of you taking your boat. [27:18.000 --> 27:22.000] Who followed them to where they took the boat? [27:22.000 --> 27:27.000] He was on his boat in a pier in a liveaboard marina. [27:27.000 --> 27:30.000] My boat was anchored in a public waterway about 50 yards- [27:30.000 --> 27:32.000] Okay, that's where it started. [27:32.000 --> 27:34.000] That's where it was taken from. [27:34.000 --> 27:42.000] Now my question is, when they took your boat, who followed them to where they took it? [27:42.000 --> 27:49.000] Where he was at in the boat, he could only see him cut the anchor rope and leave around a corner bend of this particular waterway. [27:49.000 --> 27:53.000] Okay, then the answer is no one, right? [27:53.000 --> 28:00.000] No, while it was in progress through the lake, nobody knew me and knew this boat was being stolen. [28:00.000 --> 28:01.000] No, no, no. [28:01.000 --> 28:05.000] You're not paying attention to what I'm asking you here. [28:05.000 --> 28:07.000] I got that part. [28:07.000 --> 28:11.000] But at some point, they landed the boat, right? [28:11.000 --> 28:12.000] They docked it. [28:12.000 --> 28:13.000] They anchored it. [28:13.000 --> 28:16.000] They put it somewhere, right? [28:16.000 --> 28:21.000] Or were they caught in the middle of the lake with the boat? [28:21.000 --> 28:24.000] I went in and gave a police report in person to a local agency. [28:24.000 --> 28:28.000] Then I got up on the Kama Bridge, which is a very high bridge that looks out over the whole lake. [28:28.000 --> 28:31.000] I looked out and relocated my boat coming through the lake. [28:31.000 --> 28:39.000] Okay, so it was still moving from the time you made the report and until you spotted it again? [28:39.000 --> 28:40.000] Correct. [28:40.000 --> 28:45.000] This was about a 15-, 20-minute interval between the first call of the stolen boat- [28:45.000 --> 28:46.000] Okay, now- [28:46.000 --> 28:47.000] And the bridge relocating the boat. [28:47.000 --> 28:51.000] But at the same time, during that time period, you lost sight of the boat, [28:51.000 --> 28:57.000] so you don't actually know where it went, what it did, or anything in that 20-minute interval. [28:57.000 --> 29:01.000] Well, I knew where it was anchored from and the anchor boat was cut. [29:01.000 --> 29:04.000] Okay, I got that part, okay? [29:04.000 --> 29:09.000] I don't expect you not to know where it started from, okay? [29:09.000 --> 29:15.000] There are just certain facts that I need to know because they're the same facts the cops would have to know. [29:15.000 --> 29:22.000] Did you or did you not lose visual sight of the boat for the 20 minutes after it was taken [29:22.000 --> 29:27.000] and you reacquired visibility from the bridge? [29:27.000 --> 29:30.000] Yeah, there was about 10 minutes of that 20 minutes. [29:30.000 --> 29:35.000] Okay, 10 minutes in which you couldn't see the boat or know where it was. [29:35.000 --> 29:36.000] Correct. 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[33:39.000 --> 33:41.000] It's been out of sight for about 10 minutes. [33:41.000 --> 33:48.000] What happened when you reacquired visual capabilities on your boat? [33:48.000 --> 33:52.000] I'm up on the Kima Bridge where I relocated the boat coming around the bend, [33:52.000 --> 33:57.000] the Seabrook coming up to a place right under the bridge called Outriggers, [33:57.000 --> 34:02.000] where it docked at this dock where I called the other three agencies I knew [34:02.000 --> 34:06.000] on that Labor Day weekend had control boats and told them the new location [34:06.000 --> 34:08.000] of the boat. [34:08.000 --> 34:14.000] Now the first officer on the scene had walked up to the boat. [34:14.000 --> 34:22.000] We stayed back in discovering that he knew these two that were riding my boat [34:22.000 --> 34:29.000] under its own power and introduced a false report claiming that the boat not stolen, [34:29.000 --> 34:34.000] Glenn arrested off the boat for outstanding warrants, boat towed for impound. [34:34.000 --> 34:39.000] Now I did get arrested that same day for lead capious profile, went to jail, [34:39.000 --> 34:43.000] and it was then and only then that my other witnesses on the scene said that you [34:43.000 --> 34:45.000] saw a tow boat come up. [34:45.000 --> 34:49.000] We believe the boat was about to be loaded on a big old trailer and never seen again, [34:49.000 --> 34:53.000] but that they knew each other so there was kind of the good old boys helping each [34:53.000 --> 34:54.000] other out. [34:54.000 --> 34:58.000] So then and only then did a tow boat actually come up, this boat company called [34:58.000 --> 35:02.000] CTO, and then and only then did the boat actually get hooked up to a tow boat and [35:02.000 --> 35:03.000] get moved at that point. [35:03.000 --> 35:08.000] While I'm going off to jail, my boat's going to a new location I didn't discover. [35:08.000 --> 35:13.000] Okay, were these alleged warrants valid? [35:13.000 --> 35:14.000] Did they actually exist? [35:14.000 --> 35:17.000] Capious profiles for civil traffic offenses. [35:17.000 --> 35:21.000] Yeah, but they still have, they're issued in the form of a warrant. [35:21.000 --> 35:25.000] Did they actually exist? [35:25.000 --> 35:29.000] As far as what they say in their computers, yes, but I mean, what do we put first? [35:29.000 --> 35:31.000] You know, if there's no debtors... [35:31.000 --> 35:32.000] Okay, wait, wait, wait. [35:32.000 --> 35:33.000] Wait, wait, wait, wait. [35:33.000 --> 35:35.000] I'm not looking to do that. [35:35.000 --> 35:37.000] I'm looking to find out what facts there are. [35:37.000 --> 35:41.000] Then I'll worry about how to put them together. [35:41.000 --> 35:47.000] So your arrest on the capious profiles as far as that goes was valid. [35:47.000 --> 35:50.000] However, the officer... [35:50.000 --> 35:51.000] Hold on. [35:51.000 --> 35:58.000] My Constitution, no, by what they can physically do to you unless you resist them, yes. [35:58.000 --> 36:01.000] Okay, I'm not sure what distinction you're trying to make with that statement, [36:01.000 --> 36:04.000] but let me continue on what I'm trying to put together here. [36:04.000 --> 36:06.000] Our Constitution or our federal Constitution. [36:06.000 --> 36:10.000] So how can they lawfully arrest you for a fine when there's no debtor's prison? [36:10.000 --> 36:11.000] I mean, that's a... [36:11.000 --> 36:18.000] Okay, arresting you and throwing you in jail are two different things, okay? [36:18.000 --> 36:21.000] So chill your muffler here for just a minute and let me get my facts put in order [36:21.000 --> 36:23.000] so I know what we're doing, okay? [36:23.000 --> 36:24.000] Sure. [36:24.000 --> 36:25.000] All right. [36:25.000 --> 36:32.000] Now, they arrested you on these warrants, which, for all intents and purposes, [36:32.000 --> 36:36.000] were not invalid as far as not having been issued or fake. [36:36.000 --> 36:38.000] They were there. [36:38.000 --> 36:44.000] That, however, does not excuse the officer's requirement to investigate [36:44.000 --> 36:49.000] and apprehend someone that has stolen property even if he's arresting the individual [36:49.000 --> 36:52.000] from whom the property was stolen. [36:52.000 --> 36:58.000] So what exactly did the officer do in relation to these individuals [36:58.000 --> 37:03.000] that took your boat at the time? [37:03.000 --> 37:04.000] Nothing. [37:04.000 --> 37:06.000] There's no positive IDs made on them. [37:06.000 --> 37:08.000] They're claiming that this was... [37:08.000 --> 37:10.000] Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. [37:10.000 --> 37:11.000] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. [37:11.000 --> 37:14.000] You keep saying there's no positive IDs. [37:14.000 --> 37:17.000] Let me correct your use of English here. [37:17.000 --> 37:22.000] There are no names listed in the police report. [37:22.000 --> 37:25.000] Is that what you're actually saying? [37:25.000 --> 37:26.000] Yes. [37:26.000 --> 37:27.000] Okay. [37:27.000 --> 37:28.000] Yes. [37:28.000 --> 37:29.000] Nobody knows who they were. [37:29.000 --> 37:30.000] No, no, no, wait a minute. [37:30.000 --> 37:32.000] You said the cop knew who they were. [37:32.000 --> 37:35.000] How do you know that? [37:35.000 --> 37:39.000] Because the chief of police for this city that this first officer on the scene was, [37:39.000 --> 37:41.000] for me, him and I went to high school together. [37:41.000 --> 37:43.000] We were pretty good buds in high school. [37:43.000 --> 37:47.000] He was trying to make sense of it the following day when I went to the actual city [37:47.000 --> 37:51.000] that had jurisdiction on the police report, which is League City, [37:51.000 --> 37:55.000] and gave them this stolen boat report to, you know, [37:55.000 --> 38:00.000] start the protection of the boat while they're trying to still kind of do damage control [38:00.000 --> 38:03.000] on this initial false report that the first officer on the scene... [38:03.000 --> 38:08.000] Okay, was the first officer on the scene from this guy's department? [38:08.000 --> 38:09.000] Yes. [38:09.000 --> 38:10.000] Okay. [38:10.000 --> 38:11.000] All right. [38:11.000 --> 38:14.000] Let's stop right there and start with something here for my benefit [38:14.000 --> 38:16.000] and the benefit of everybody listening. [38:16.000 --> 38:22.000] You said he was trying to make sense of events that was filed in the report [38:22.000 --> 38:25.000] versus what you were telling him, correct? [38:25.000 --> 38:26.000] Correct. [38:26.000 --> 38:31.000] And how did he acquire the names or the information, rather, [38:31.000 --> 38:40.000] that the first responding officer knew the individuals that had taken the boat? [38:40.000 --> 38:42.000] I asked him point blank. [38:42.000 --> 38:46.000] I said how is it that this first officer on the scene, one of your officers, [38:46.000 --> 38:50.000] did not get their names and entered into the police report? [38:50.000 --> 38:53.000] And he said because they knew each other. [38:53.000 --> 38:54.000] He knew them. [38:54.000 --> 38:55.000] He knew them on sight. [38:55.000 --> 38:56.000] Okay. [38:56.000 --> 39:01.000] If he knew them on sight, why did he say they were not listed in the police report [39:01.000 --> 39:05.000] as suspects of having stole the boat? [39:05.000 --> 39:08.000] As far as the chief of police answering those same questions, [39:08.000 --> 39:10.000] did I ask him the same one? [39:10.000 --> 39:11.000] He said he doesn't know. [39:11.000 --> 39:13.000] He was going to look into it, yada, yada, yada. [39:13.000 --> 39:17.000] Next thing you know, because he's under the impression on this day, [39:17.000 --> 39:19.000] which is the very next day, [39:19.000 --> 39:23.000] that the city that actually had the jurisdiction of filing the police report, [39:23.000 --> 39:26.000] because you've got to understand around Clear Lake there are seven little cities [39:26.000 --> 39:28.000] that surround Clear Lake. [39:28.000 --> 39:32.000] It's the boundary between Galveston and Harris County here in this part of Texas. [39:32.000 --> 39:34.000] So there are seven little municipalities. [39:34.000 --> 39:39.000] The one that had the jurisdiction of the stolen boat report took the stolen boat report [39:39.000 --> 39:42.000] with my witnesses and our affidavits, [39:42.000 --> 39:45.000] and I was told it's going to be entered as a stolen boat that day. [39:45.000 --> 39:49.000] So then I'm questioning these others that I had called in, [39:49.000 --> 39:52.000] because I called through non-emergency lines three agencies [39:52.000 --> 39:55.000] that I knew had boats patrolling on the boat on the lake, [39:55.000 --> 39:57.000] because it was Labor Day weekend, [39:57.000 --> 40:03.000] and for some reason none of them was doing their job correctly according to the rules. [40:03.000 --> 40:08.000] The police report from the one first officer on the scene did not give all the details, [40:08.000 --> 40:13.000] including the two that had taken the boat under its own power. [40:13.000 --> 40:16.000] Then the next day when I was told the police report for the stolen boat [40:16.000 --> 40:20.000] from the city that actually had the jurisdiction would enter it in as a stolen boat, [40:20.000 --> 40:24.000] all of a sudden now they're saying they're not going to enter it as a stolen boat. [40:24.000 --> 40:27.000] They're questioning whether this boat was being towed or not. [40:27.000 --> 40:31.000] So it became this big huge, you know, I'll cover you, you cover me, [40:31.000 --> 40:33.000] because we're going to do damage control. [40:33.000 --> 40:35.000] Okay, let me stop you right there then. [40:35.000 --> 40:41.000] If this is the way they want to play the game, then you need to play it better than them. [40:41.000 --> 40:44.000] So here's what I'm going to recommend you do. [40:44.000 --> 40:51.000] File criminal charges against the initial responding officer under 38.05 or penal code, [40:51.000 --> 40:54.000] hindering apprehension and prosecution. [40:54.000 --> 40:58.000] File charges for official oppression and abuse of official capacity [40:58.000 --> 41:05.000] under 3903 and 3902 penal code respectively. [41:05.000 --> 41:13.000] Then file criminal charges of tampering with a government record, i.e. the police report, [41:13.000 --> 41:17.000] which is also in the penal code under chapter 38. [41:17.000 --> 41:21.000] Well, it may not be 38. [41:21.000 --> 41:23.000] So we're not getting aid. [41:23.000 --> 41:28.000] In my case, I'm only getting resistance from all the, I went to the public integrity divisions. [41:28.000 --> 41:31.000] I went through the, you know, head prosecutions. [41:31.000 --> 41:33.000] I went through the city mayors. [41:33.000 --> 41:37.000] I went even to the feds and gave them all the proof and facts of these false reports [41:37.000 --> 41:38.000] and how they were covering one another. [41:38.000 --> 41:43.000] I mean, I've got nothing but resistance of the entire chain of command. [41:43.000 --> 41:47.000] So how does a normal, you know, man or woman get like, you know, [41:47.000 --> 41:51.000] my first thing would be how do we, the people, how do we get a grand jury convened? [41:51.000 --> 41:55.000] My understanding is there is a way to do it to get indictments on these people [41:55.000 --> 41:59.000] if the DAs are not doing their job. [41:59.000 --> 42:02.000] Your information is incorrect. [42:02.000 --> 42:07.000] In Texas, the Constitution specifically makes the gathering of a grand jury [42:07.000 --> 42:10.000] the duty and responsibility of the district court. [42:10.000 --> 42:16.000] Now, you have the right to appear before and give information to [42:16.000 --> 42:22.000] and make them aware of any crime committed that you're aware of. [42:22.000 --> 42:26.000] You can do that in Texas, but you can't convene them, okay? [42:26.000 --> 42:28.000] You can't convene them. [42:28.000 --> 42:32.000] You can just go to them with a sworn complaint. [42:32.000 --> 42:35.000] That's what I'm trying to tell you to get here. [42:35.000 --> 42:39.000] Okay, so that's the 3902, 3903. [42:39.000 --> 42:45.000] 3805, 3902, 3903, and whatever section it is that deals with tampering [42:45.000 --> 42:49.000] with a government document. [42:49.000 --> 42:52.000] And these are documents that will go before the grand jury. [42:52.000 --> 42:55.000] These are criminal complaints. [42:55.000 --> 42:58.000] You go to the police department in which this guy works. [42:58.000 --> 43:00.000] Try that first. [43:00.000 --> 43:04.000] Make sure you're recording everything. [43:04.000 --> 43:08.000] Don't ever talk to any of these people ever again without audio [43:08.000 --> 43:14.000] and video recording it if you can, okay? [43:14.000 --> 43:20.000] Go to that police agency and tell them you wish to file formal criminal complaints, [43:20.000 --> 43:25.000] swear them out, and obtain copies of them, okay? [43:25.000 --> 43:29.000] Now, what you need to do before you go down there and ask to do that [43:29.000 --> 43:32.000] is to sit down and write up a factual accounting [43:32.000 --> 43:36.000] of what happened on the day the boat was stolen, okay? [43:36.000 --> 43:39.000] Don't elaborate, don't go into geographics, [43:39.000 --> 43:42.000] don't go into municipal borderlines, don't do any of that. [43:42.000 --> 43:44.000] My boat was anchored here. [43:44.000 --> 43:46.000] At approximately this time, my boat was taken. 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[46:33.000 --> 46:35.000] All right, folks, we are back. [46:35.000 --> 46:37.000] This is Rule of Law Radio, [46:37.000 --> 46:40.000] and I'm going to try to wrap this up for Glenn in this segment. [46:40.000 --> 46:42.000] All right, Glenn, anyway... [46:42.000 --> 46:48.000] Since then, I have filed a civil suit [46:48.000 --> 46:50.000] in one of the courts down here [46:50.000 --> 46:53.000] trying to protect the property that way. [46:53.000 --> 46:56.000] Civil suit against who, for what? [46:56.000 --> 47:00.000] Against the Real Parties of Interest, the municipalities [47:00.000 --> 47:04.000] that did not do their, you know, neglected their duty [47:04.000 --> 47:06.000] under the Texas Tort Claims Act. [47:06.000 --> 47:09.000] And, you know, I'm just getting total resistance from everybody. [47:09.000 --> 47:12.000] There's no following of the rules of law [47:12.000 --> 47:14.000] from what I'm seeing thus far, [47:14.000 --> 47:18.000] and this is going on three years and this next Labor Day. [47:18.000 --> 47:21.000] So are they going to hit me up with some statute limitations [47:21.000 --> 47:24.000] on filing a criminal complaint on this [47:24.000 --> 47:26.000] and trying to go back that route? [47:26.000 --> 47:34.000] You've got two years to file the complaint if it's a misdemeanor. [47:34.000 --> 47:40.000] You've got up to ten if it's a felony, depending upon what level of felony. [47:40.000 --> 47:45.000] Okay, so there is a statute of limitations on crimes regardless. [47:45.000 --> 47:47.000] Everything but murder. [47:47.000 --> 47:49.000] You know, since then... [47:49.000 --> 47:50.000] Right. [47:50.000 --> 47:52.000] I mean, this is just the half of it, [47:52.000 --> 47:54.000] because, you know, trying to protect this property [47:54.000 --> 47:56.000] and expressing the truth, you know, [47:56.000 --> 47:59.000] it's caused me nothing but further resistance [47:59.000 --> 48:02.000] from these very cities and municipalities [48:02.000 --> 48:06.000] that didn't follow their own duties, if there is such a thing. [48:06.000 --> 48:11.000] And, of course, now I'm facing, you know, countless false arrests since then, [48:11.000 --> 48:16.000] including six open cases in the courts down here [48:16.000 --> 48:18.000] that are not following the rules of law either. [48:18.000 --> 48:21.000] This just seemed to be a systematic, you know, [48:21.000 --> 48:25.000] we're just going to hammer you as much as can be. [48:25.000 --> 48:27.000] So, you know, my last question, [48:27.000 --> 48:30.000] because I know you have other people seeking your help [48:30.000 --> 48:34.000] on these administrative hearings that you were talking about [48:34.000 --> 48:38.000] in one of your segments, they're alleging... [48:38.000 --> 48:39.000] Because I'm with you. [48:39.000 --> 48:40.000] I don't have a driver's license. [48:40.000 --> 48:41.000] I don't register my vehicle. [48:41.000 --> 48:43.000] I don't have the inspection sticker. [48:43.000 --> 48:48.000] I'm not paying any more of their scam taxes than the next guy. [48:48.000 --> 48:52.000] So I've been hammered with alleging no driver's license, [48:52.000 --> 48:55.000] you know, some of these other kind of the fruit of the poisonous tree, [48:55.000 --> 48:59.000] if you will, where they're alleging transportation code violations [48:59.000 --> 49:03.000] and then trying to seek discovery and whatever they can do. [49:03.000 --> 49:06.000] So, of course, you can't help but face the false arrests [49:06.000 --> 49:07.000] or resist them on the spot. [49:07.000 --> 49:09.000] So when you come out on bondage [49:09.000 --> 49:12.000] and you're in the middle of this system now, [49:12.000 --> 49:15.000] what is the, you know, the best damage control? [49:15.000 --> 49:16.000] And is there... [49:16.000 --> 49:19.000] And how do we, you know, petition the administrative review board [49:19.000 --> 49:22.000] on these transportation codes to, you know, [49:22.000 --> 49:25.000] maybe get it out of the kind of the tyrant's hands [49:25.000 --> 49:29.000] that are running the court? [49:29.000 --> 49:31.000] Well, as far as an answer to that, [49:31.000 --> 49:33.000] there is no silver bullet way of doing it. [49:33.000 --> 49:38.000] The fact of the matter is they're only going to feel accountable [49:38.000 --> 49:40.000] if you make them accountable. [49:40.000 --> 49:42.000] And right now the only way you've got to do that [49:42.000 --> 49:46.000] is to press criminal charges and file civil suits. [49:46.000 --> 49:52.000] It's unfortunate, but it's true. [49:52.000 --> 49:55.000] Well, I filed it twice. [49:55.000 --> 49:57.000] They put three different judges now. [49:57.000 --> 50:00.000] The first one is apparently going up to Congress, [50:00.000 --> 50:03.000] and then there's a new one appointed, [50:03.000 --> 50:06.000] and they've just hammered me with different judges [50:06.000 --> 50:09.000] not following the rules, even though this is, you know, [50:09.000 --> 50:13.000] clearly a prima facie case, you know, because... [50:13.000 --> 50:21.000] How is theft a prima facie case? [50:21.000 --> 50:25.000] Well, I mean in terms of the civil under the Texas Tort Claims Act [50:25.000 --> 50:27.000] for their, you know, neglected duties. [50:27.000 --> 50:32.000] I still don't see how you would say that that's, you know... [50:32.000 --> 50:35.000] Well, anyway, regardless, [50:35.000 --> 50:37.000] that's the only way you're going to have any recourse in this [50:37.000 --> 50:41.000] is to sue somebody and press criminal charges against somebody. [50:41.000 --> 50:43.000] So get your statement written up [50:43.000 --> 50:45.000] that I was telling you about before we went to break. [50:45.000 --> 50:46.000] Assert your facts. [50:46.000 --> 50:48.000] Don't go into a lot of embellishments. [50:48.000 --> 50:52.000] Don't go into conclusions, determinations, or arguments. [50:52.000 --> 50:56.000] State, facts, and only facts. [50:56.000 --> 50:58.000] Date, time, person, place, thing. [50:58.000 --> 51:00.000] That's it. [51:00.000 --> 51:01.000] Okay? [51:01.000 --> 51:02.000] Okay. [51:02.000 --> 51:06.000] Go get that notarized after it's done. [51:06.000 --> 51:07.000] Okay? [51:07.000 --> 51:09.000] And make that your sworn statement [51:09.000 --> 51:12.000] of all the facts that occurred that day. [51:12.000 --> 51:14.000] Then go down and tell the police department [51:14.000 --> 51:18.000] you wish to file criminal charges under these code sections [51:18.000 --> 51:21.000] that I gave you, [51:21.000 --> 51:24.000] and you get whatever paperwork they give you to do that, [51:24.000 --> 51:28.000] and you then get them to give you copies of it. [51:28.000 --> 51:35.000] Then you take that information to a grand jury. [51:35.000 --> 51:37.000] Okay. [51:37.000 --> 51:39.000] And how do I do that? [51:39.000 --> 51:41.000] Well, you find out where the grand jury sits [51:41.000 --> 51:45.000] while it's impaneled, and you go say hi. [51:45.000 --> 51:49.000] Okay. [51:49.000 --> 51:51.000] Okay. [51:51.000 --> 51:58.000] There will be one somewhere within the county you're in. [51:58.000 --> 52:01.000] Okay, so that's another open hearing [52:01.000 --> 52:07.000] I'm rightfully entitled to and speak before or petition before. [52:07.000 --> 52:08.000] No, no, no. [52:08.000 --> 52:11.000] You have the right to make them aware of crimes. [52:11.000 --> 52:13.000] Okay? [52:13.000 --> 52:19.000] You have the right to do that. [52:19.000 --> 52:20.000] It's not a hearing. [52:20.000 --> 52:22.000] It's not anything of the sort. [52:22.000 --> 52:24.000] Package your information up. [52:24.000 --> 52:25.000] Go present it. [52:25.000 --> 52:27.000] If they decide that they're going to bring you in [52:27.000 --> 52:30.000] and ask you questions about it, they can do that. [52:30.000 --> 52:32.000] But right now you just need to make them aware [52:32.000 --> 52:36.000] that there's crimes that they need to be dealing with. [52:36.000 --> 52:38.000] So get it up, put everything in a packet. [52:38.000 --> 52:40.000] Do not give them your copies. [52:40.000 --> 52:43.000] Make copies and put that in a packet [52:43.000 --> 52:45.000] and deliver it to the foreman of the grand jury [52:45.000 --> 52:49.000] sealed up for his eyes only. [52:49.000 --> 52:53.000] Or actually make it out to each member of the grand jury. [52:53.000 --> 52:56.000] Foreman of the grand jury, grand jury member number one, [52:56.000 --> 53:00.000] grand jury member number two, grand jury member blah, blah, blah. [53:00.000 --> 53:02.000] Okay? [53:02.000 --> 53:09.000] Foreman and two through 12 or one through 11 or whatever. [53:09.000 --> 53:12.000] Okay. [53:12.000 --> 53:15.000] And on these administrative codes with these alleged, you know, [53:15.000 --> 53:19.000] driving and the things that they're trying to hammer you with [53:19.000 --> 53:20.000] after that... [53:20.000 --> 53:23.000] Okay, I have no clue how you've tried to fight this so far. [53:23.000 --> 53:28.000] So I don't know what to tell you about what is already out there. [53:28.000 --> 53:30.000] If you went in there fighting that incorrectly [53:30.000 --> 53:34.000] by arguing merits of the accusations or the transportation code [53:34.000 --> 53:36.000] or any of that stuff, [53:36.000 --> 53:40.000] you're beyond my ability to recover it for you. [53:40.000 --> 53:46.000] No, I went in under the, you know, the constitutional case laws, [53:46.000 --> 53:47.000] you know what I mean? [53:47.000 --> 53:49.000] You went in and argued a right to travel. [53:49.000 --> 53:51.000] A right to travel. [53:51.000 --> 53:52.000] Okay. [53:52.000 --> 53:55.000] That is not, listen to me, [53:55.000 --> 54:02.000] that is not the correct rebuttal of the accusation against you. [54:02.000 --> 54:08.000] It's got nothing to do with the accusation against you. [54:08.000 --> 54:10.000] That's like a game warden saying, [54:10.000 --> 54:13.000] I'm accusing you of hunting deer out of season. [54:13.000 --> 54:15.000] Well, officer, I work at Wal-Mart. [54:15.000 --> 54:19.000] So what? [54:19.000 --> 54:22.000] A truck driver has a right to travel, [54:22.000 --> 54:27.000] but not while he is also acting in commerce on the highways, [54:27.000 --> 54:30.000] and that's what they're accusing you of. [54:30.000 --> 54:36.000] Therefore, the right to travel argument does not apply to that accusation [54:36.000 --> 54:41.000] because you cannot be doing both at the same time. [54:41.000 --> 54:47.000] You have to deal with the accusation that's made. [54:47.000 --> 54:49.000] That's why you're getting... [54:49.000 --> 54:52.000] Huh? [54:52.000 --> 54:54.000] If I've got to show cause motion [54:54.000 --> 54:58.000] and the judge is not holding them to their burden, you know, because I'm... [54:58.000 --> 55:00.000] The judges never hold them to their burden. [55:00.000 --> 55:03.000] There's no money in holding them to their burden. [55:03.000 --> 55:10.000] But you have to properly document that's what's going on. [55:10.000 --> 55:15.000] You have to know how to properly document every rule they're breaking [55:15.000 --> 55:17.000] and how they're breaking it. [55:17.000 --> 55:21.000] But you have to do that with the correct rebuttal argument, [55:21.000 --> 55:28.000] and the right to travel is not it. [55:28.000 --> 55:32.000] You're not being accused of violating anything associated with the right to travel, [55:32.000 --> 55:38.000] so why are you arguing it? [55:38.000 --> 55:39.000] You follow? [55:39.000 --> 55:41.000] Well, because they're alleging I'm driving with an invalid... [55:41.000 --> 55:48.000] Which is not the same thing. [55:48.000 --> 55:49.000] Is it? [55:49.000 --> 55:58.000] It's not the same thing. [55:58.000 --> 56:02.000] You following yet? [56:02.000 --> 56:03.000] Well, no. [56:03.000 --> 56:05.000] No, I'm... [56:05.000 --> 56:08.000] Okay, then you need to be going back and listening to the view of the archives [56:08.000 --> 56:11.000] that have gone through this more than once. [56:11.000 --> 56:15.000] The right to travel is never the proper rebuttal argument [56:15.000 --> 56:18.000] to an accusation of engaging in commerce. [56:18.000 --> 56:20.000] They are water and oil. [56:20.000 --> 56:26.000] They do not mix. [56:26.000 --> 56:31.000] Okay, well, in one of your archives you were speaking of, you know, [56:31.000 --> 56:36.000] that we petition the Administrative Review Board on these transportation codes... [56:36.000 --> 56:40.000] It still is not petitioning them regarding a right to travel. [56:40.000 --> 56:45.000] It has to do with transportation and whether or not I'm actually engaging in it. [56:45.000 --> 56:49.000] It's got nothing to do with a right to travel. [56:49.000 --> 56:52.000] So if I'm trying to bypass the courts because they're not following the rules [56:52.000 --> 56:55.000] and going to the authority of these administrative codes, [56:55.000 --> 56:58.000] that is the Administrative Review Board, though, right? [56:58.000 --> 57:05.000] No, it's the State Office of Administrative Hearings in Austin, Texas. [57:05.000 --> 57:11.000] The statutes only set up one place for those administrative hearings to take place. [57:11.000 --> 57:15.000] It's in Chapter 2001 of the government code. [57:15.000 --> 57:18.000] There isn't but one Office of State Administrative Hearings [57:18.000 --> 57:23.000] or State Office of Administrative Hearings, and it's right here in Austin. [57:23.000 --> 57:27.000] And I don't see any authority in that set of statutes or that act [57:27.000 --> 57:34.000] that allows that authority to be delegated to some committee somewhere else. [57:34.000 --> 57:37.000] But again, you walk into that administrative hearing [57:37.000 --> 57:40.000] and you start arguing right to travel, [57:40.000 --> 57:46.000] you're going to get pounded just like you did in the judicial court [57:46.000 --> 57:51.000] because it's not the correct legal argument. [57:51.000 --> 57:55.000] Okay? [57:55.000 --> 57:57.000] All right, Glenn, I've spent half an hour on you, man. [57:57.000 --> 58:00.000] I need you to go back and listen to the archives and get this figured out [58:00.000 --> 58:02.000] because you're not making the right argument. [58:02.000 --> 58:04.000] Yes, sir. Thanks for your time. [58:04.000 --> 58:05.000] You're welcome. [58:05.000 --> 58:07.000] All right, John, Joe, Truth Raider, y'all hang on. [58:07.000 --> 58:09.000] I'll get to y'all when we get back after this. [58:09.000 --> 58:12.000] This is our top of the hour break, so we'll be off for a couple, three, four minutes. [58:12.000 --> 58:14.000] But y'all just hang in there. [58:14.000 --> 58:16.000] I will get you when we return. [58:16.000 --> 58:19.000] All right, folks, if you are on the caller board just to listen, please don't do that. [58:19.000 --> 58:24.000] We have a limited number of slots now, and if you're hanging out there, no one can call in. [58:24.000 --> 58:27.000] So please free up the board if all you're trying to do is listen [58:27.000 --> 58:30.000] and listen to us over the Internet so that our streams go up [58:30.000 --> 58:37.000] and hopefully we can get, you know, big support out of that by being popular, [58:37.000 --> 58:40.000] which the only way we have the track is through the Internet streams. [58:40.000 --> 58:44.000] So if you're not listening to us over the Internet, please do so. [58:44.000 --> 58:47.000] All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, your host Eddie Craig. [58:47.000 --> 58:50.000] I will be right back after these breaks. 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[01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:55.000] This is the Liberty Beat for Monday, August 4th, 2014. [01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:58.000] Check out the website at thelibertybeat.com. [01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:31.000] I won't pay for the war with my body. [01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:35.000] Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money. [01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:38.000] I won't pay for the fun with my body. [01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.000] The friends wicked and the logic shoddy. [01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:45.000] Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body. [01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.000] I won't pay for the boys with my money. [01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:52.000] Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my body. [01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.000] Hi, folks, we are back. [01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.000] This is Rue La Blanc Radio, and now we're going to take John in Virginia. [01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:04.000] John, what can we do for you? [01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:09.000] Well, my son got arrested about a month ago or so, [01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:16.000] and spent six days in jail for no headlights on, [01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:20.000] driving without a license, and obstruction of justice. [01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:23.000] But they actually never cited him for not having headlights on, [01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.000] but he was coming home from church [01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:32.000] and McDonald's out on a Thursday night when he got pulled over. [01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.000] Okay. [01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.000] And so, yeah, he doesn't have a license. [01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:38.000] He's never had a license. [01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:39.000] He's only 18. [01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:42.000] He just got out of school. [01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.000] And so we kind of need some help. [01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.000] We're not real familiar with you. [01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:49.000] Art Patton gave us your name. [01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:50.000] Okay. [01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:52.000] So we're kind of new with this, [01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:56.000] although one of the officers who showed up on the scene, [01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:02.000] not the arresting officer, but he had put me in jail four years before for the same thing. [01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:05.000] All right. [01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.000] But we just haven't figured out how to hold him accountable to anything. [01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:13.000] Well, the first thing you got to do is figure out what the rules of the game are [01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.000] and who is bound to it. [01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:20.000] If you haven't done any actual study of whatever constitutes your transportation [01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:26.000] or motor vehicle code up there, it's legislative history and case law, [01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:28.000] that's your first problem. [01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:34.000] If you have not prepared by studying the rules of procedure relating to court, [01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:39.000] what type of charges these actually are so you know which set of rules to play by, [01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.000] civil or criminal or administrative, [01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.000] then you're also ill-prepared to go out and start this battle. [01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:56.000] So as far as how to hold him accountable, the first step is always prepare. [01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:05.000] And that, of course, is based upon those things, research, study, and more study. [01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:12.000] Until you do that, you're going out and you're just taking whatever you think things are [01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:17.000] and trying to apply it in a situation where things are tailored to be very, very specific [01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:21.000] and they just don't play well together. [01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:22.000] Okay? [01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:27.000] So at the moment, you're way, way behind the eight ball on this [01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:34.000] because you've already started the fight and you've done zero preparation for it. [01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.000] Can you follow? [01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.000] Yes, I hear what you're saying. [01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.000] Okay. [01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.000] I do not know the laws for Virginia specifically. [01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:46.000] Even though I was up there in Virginia and Maryland for a while working on contracts, [01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.000] I never had the occasion to have to dig into it up there. [01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:52.000] I never got pulled over the whole time I was there, [01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:58.000] mainly because they couldn't catch my impala, but that's beside the point. [01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.000] The fact is is I never had to go to court up there, [01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:06.000] so I never had an opportunity to have to dig into the rules to worry about it. [01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:11.000] And unfortunately, one guy just has neither the time nor the brainpower to remember them all. [01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:12.000] Okay? [01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:18.000] I know people think I'm Rain Man, but I'm not, even though I sound like him at times. [01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:21.000] So that's the first thing you've got to get into. [01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:24.000] If you're going to have these fights, you better train for these fights, [01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.000] and the training always starts with the research and the study. [01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:28.000] You need the case law. [01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.000] You need the statutes. [01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.000] You need the legislative history of those statutes. [01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:36.000] For instance, let me tell you how important legislative history is. [01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:47.000] Every statute in every code currently in existence in Texas is an amended version [01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:56.000] of the original enactments of the Texas legislature that were created in 1925. [01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:01.000] So you have to actually start in 1925 and work your way forward [01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:06.000] to see how they have tried to change the statutes to go into places [01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:10.000] where the original enactment never allowed them to go. [01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:15.000] Because here in Texas, they are forbidden by the Constitution [01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:28.000] to change the subject matter and subject matter purpose of any statute or enactment by amendment. [01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:29.000] Okay? [01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.000] So if they want to change the subject matter, [01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:36.000] they have to completely repeal the original act, make the changes, [01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:44.000] and then re-pass the entire thing. [01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:50.000] All right, so you need to find out how and what those rules are in Virginia. [01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:54.000] What I would do first is try to get in touch with somebody at the Secretary of State [01:08:54.000 --> 01:09:02.000] and find out that if there are any certified statutes or statute books in Virginia, [01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:11.000] and if so, what are they, and under what legislative year are those statutes [01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:16.000] certified by the Secretary of State to be compliant with? [01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.000] That will be your platform base. [01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.000] That's where your study starts. [01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:26.000] Now, you can go to a law library and work your way backwards. [01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.000] If you go to the law library, [01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:33.000] the law library will have books that shows the register entries and bill entries [01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:42.000] and the prior sections and codes pages for each statute as it's progressed. [01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.000] So you can go backwards. [01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:45.000] It just takes longer. [01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:46.000] Yeah. [01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:50.000] Yeah, they have an LIS system in Virginia, Legislated Information System, [01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:54.000] and at the bottom of the, say, where you're looking up the statute, [01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:58.000] it has in reverse order the years going back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, [01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.000] all the way to, I don't know. [01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.000] Now, it's not just the years you want, though, because they will change the numbers [01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:07.000] of the statutes in the prior versions. [01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:08.000] They'll renumber them. [01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:09.000] They'll move them around. [01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.000] They'll put them in a different place. [01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:17.000] Without those references, finding that specific iteration of the statute sucks. [01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.000] So you don't want one that just gives you the years. [01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:25.000] You want the reference that also tells you what it actually was, [01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:30.000] code, and section before it became what it is right now. [01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.000] Okay. [01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:40.000] And that's what the books at the law library will give you that none of the other stuff will. [01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:41.000] Okay. [01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.000] So you're talking about the legislative history. [01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:48.000] Yes, the legislative history of a particular statute, okay, [01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.000] whether it be a complete enactment. [01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:55.000] The complete enactment will take you back to what legislator in year made it, [01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:59.000] whereas the specific statute can be one of hundreds or thousands, [01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:03.000] or even a single one in some cases, that are within that act, [01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:08.000] and they've been changed over time several different times. [01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:16.000] Like, for instance, one of the codes that used to exist in Texas was the public safety code. [01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:22.000] Everything dealing with driver's licenses used to be in that code along with a bunch of other stuff. [01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.000] Okay. [01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.000] Then they gave it its own code under transportation. [01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:35.000] Well, each new numbered section of each chapter in the new code has a section number [01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.000] that takes it back to what it was before they changed it. [01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.000] Then that one has the number of what it was before it became what it is there, [01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:47.000] and it goes backwards that way each time. [01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.000] Okay. [01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.000] Yeah, and how far back are you saying you got to go? [01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:58.000] You go until you reach the spot where the Secretary of State says these acts are based upon this year [01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.000] and this legislative number. [01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:08.000] They certify that the statutes are compliant with the acts passed by the Virginia legislature, [01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.000] 56 legislature, for instance, like here in Texas. [01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:17.000] It says that these acts are, we certify that these acts are true and correct representation [01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:24.000] of the enactments passed by the 56 legislature of the state of Texas in 1925. [01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:25.000] Okay. [01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:28.000] That's a certification in the book by the Secretary of State. [01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:33.000] If you go to a state law library there in Virginia or a university law library [01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:40.000] and ask to see what books have these certifications of the state laws by the Secretary of State, [01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.000] the librarian can probably take you right over there and take you to the first page in that volume [01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.000] and say right here it's a certification. [01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.000] Right there on that certification it will tell you what year, [01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:55.000] what legislature the original act in that code came from. [01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:58.000] Okay, from whatever statute you're looking at. [01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.000] Well, it'll be at the front of the book, [01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:05.000] and then any statute in that book has to meet that certification requirement. [01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:08.000] Okay. [01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.000] All right. [01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:14.000] I had a friend in North Carolina who lost a general district court, [01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:19.000] you know, traveling with his own tag and the license and all that. [01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:25.000] He appealed for a jury trial, circuit court, [01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:30.000] and while he was waiting he put in a notice of demand to the Supreme Court, [01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.000] to Superior Court of North Carolina, [01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:38.000] and they wrote back that they deny his motion, [01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.000] and he didn't put in a motion, so he wrote back, [01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:43.000] I did not put in a motion, I put in a notice of demand, [01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.000] and when he showed up for the jury trial... [01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:50.000] Well, demand is asking the court to do something, therefore it is a motion. [01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:54.000] You can't make a demand without it being a request for something. [01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:56.000] Well, he put in a notice of demand, [01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.000] and when he showed up for the trial, circuit court, [01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:00.000] the circuit court said you don't need to be here, [01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:05.000] the Superior Court hasn't told us how to proceed, [01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:09.000] so six months later he gets his bond money back in the mail, [01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:12.000] so he goes online to check and all the charges were dismissed. [01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.000] I thought that was interesting, [01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:20.000] and he based that on that the parties involved was the state of North Carolina, [01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.000] de facto the state of North Carolina du jour, [01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:28.000] and he, a son of God, a free man, [01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.000] and he evoked the common law, and they dismissed all the charges. [01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:32.000] Now, I don't understand all that. [01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.000] I mean, I understand basically what he did. [01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.000] Yeah, I would have to see exactly how he couched the argument, [01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:42.000] but right now Rod Class is up in North Carolina giving them living hell [01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.000] as far as the state troopers and all that stuff. [01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.000] He's got a lot of administrative determinations about what they can and cannot do, [01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:57.000] and right now they are in serious jeopardy of if people become aware of what Rod's got ruled on so far, [01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:01.000] and took him to task on it, they'd be in real trouble. [01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:02.000] Okay. [01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:07.000] Now, that's if the information I'm receiving on all this is correct, but... [01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:11.000] Right. [01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:15.000] So I guess my question to you is once we go back and look at these statutes, [01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:18.000] what do we do with them? [01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:25.000] Well, you formulate your defense first off on not engaging in the activity that's being regulated. [01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:29.000] For instance, here in Texas the activity is transportation, [01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:33.000] and everything in that code must be relative to that subject [01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:40.000] because that's the subject matter of the original act and the thing that's being regulated. [01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:49.000] The driving is not being regulated unless the driving is relative to transportation. [01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:56.000] That's the only time it can be driving, otherwise it's simply traveling. [01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:57.000] Right, I understand. [01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.000] I realize the difference between the two. [01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:01.000] No, I got that. [01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.000] I'm just trying to explain the difference in the legal arguments. [01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:07.000] That's what I was telling the first caller that I had about why you can't argue right to travel. [01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:09.000] It's not the correct rebuttal. [01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.000] The correct rebuttal is... [01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:13.000] Yeah. [01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:16.000] Yeah, I'm not engaged in the activity you're accusing me of being engaged in, [01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.000] and you have not produced any evidence that I ever was engaged in it. [01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:26.000] But the reason you're studying the statute is to get affirmative confirmation [01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:32.000] that that's what they apply to, is people engaging in commercial use of the highways, [01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:37.000] not your everyday individual traveling on their own on the road. 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[01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:34.000] I'm Dr. Griffin Cole, and I got to tell you, I really love this Magic Mud product. [01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:49.000] Hi, folks, we are back. [01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:51.000] This is Rule of Law Radio. [01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:54.000] All right, now we're going to go to Joe in Illinois. [01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:57.000] Joe, what can we do for you? [01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:01.000] Good evening, Eddie, and thanks for taking my call. [01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:02.000] Yes, sir. [01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.000] I got a little situation here. [01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:07.000] I've kind of been following you, been a student of you for a while, [01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:12.000] and in fact, I travel a lot in Illinois, [01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.000] and I even have your script right on the screen of my computer, [01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:20.000] which I carry on a mobile desk in my car. [01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:24.000] But unfortunately for me, one morning as I was traveling, [01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.000] I didn't have my computer up, and I didn't have a copy of the script with me. [01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:35.000] I came around a corner on one of the streets in my neighborhood, [01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:42.000] and all of a sudden, a police officer popped out from behind a tree. [01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:46.000] He looked at me, and he grabbed the mic of his radio, and he talked into it, [01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.000] and I looked forward up at the intersection, [01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:52.000] and there was a whole bunch of police officers standing there, [01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:57.000] apparently making a good living off the fair people in my community. [01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:02.000] So when I got up to the intersection, a police officer came up to my window, [01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:07.000] and I know you recommend that we memorize the script that you put out, [01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.000] and I've tried. [01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:13.000] My memory is not all that good, but I kind of started out with, you know, [01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:17.000] who are you, and then asked him to identify himself, [01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:22.000] at which time then the supervisor came over and tried to get surly with me [01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:25.000] and told me, you know, just move over there. [01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:31.000] So I parked, and they came over to me, and they demanded to see my driver's license. [01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:36.000] Well, I kind of remembered parts of the script, so I started going through it, [01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:42.000] kind of fumbling and bumbling, but at one point, I told them, [01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.000] I told the police officer that was at my window, [01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.000] and also I tried to make a recording of it. [01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.000] I grabbed my phone right away and hit record on my phone, [01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:57.000] but unfortunately I hit the wrong button, so I didn't make a recording of it. [01:21:57.000 --> 01:21:59.000] But I did tell them, I said, for the record, [01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:03.000] I'm not operating or driving in a four-hire capacity. [01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:09.000] I'm not engaging in any sort of transportation or other commercial use of the public highway. [01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:15.000] I said, I'm traveling in my private automobile, as defined under Title 49, [01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.000] of the United States Code. [01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:20.000] I said, I have harmed no one. [01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.000] I'm not harming anyone. [01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:26.000] I haven't acted in a reckless manner that could harm anyone. [01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:29.000] I just wish to go on my way. [01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:36.000] And we started dancing around about what law I'm talking about, definitions, and so on and so forth, [01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:38.000] and he said, you know, you're operating a vehicle. [01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:39.000] I said, no, I'm not. [01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:40.000] He said, well, what is this? [01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:43.000] I said, it's a private automobile, it's private property. [01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:44.000] You're driving. [01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:45.000] I said, I'm not. [01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:46.000] I'm traveling. [01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:52.000] Long and short of it is they decided that since I would not give them any identification [01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:57.000] because they could not articulate to me any law I was breaking, [01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:04.000] they decided that they would just take the information off the vehicle or the automobile [01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:08.000] and issue me some citations based on that. [01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:13.000] Well, the automobile I was in was a borrowed car. [01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:18.000] So they issued two tickets to the owner, who's a friend of mine. [01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:22.000] And of course, when I got the tickets, I called him up right away [01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:26.000] and cursed him out for being such a lawless criminal. [01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.000] And we kind of had a chuckle on it. [01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:31.000] And I told him basically, you're out of state. [01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:33.000] You're not even here. [01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:34.000] You have proof of that. [01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:38.000] So I said, just let it go into default. [01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:40.000] We'll set aside the judgment. [01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:45.000] And that'll be the end of it because you have proof you weren't even here. [01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:56.000] The police being a bit cagey, and I'm always reminded that this is like a boxer going into a ring. [01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:01.000] And I'm going up against a professional boxer, and I'm just an amateur. [01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:04.000] So don't count your chickens before they hatch. [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.000] Well, my friend got a little squirrely. [01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:11.000] I talked to a retired policeman, and they told him, oh, they're going to throw the book at you in Illinois. [01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.000] You're going to go to prison for the rest of your life. [01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:23.000] So he called me today, and he said, can you go down there and tell the prosecutor that I wasn't the one driving? [01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:26.000] And I said, sure, I'd be happy to do that. [01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:28.000] So I went down there. [01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:33.000] And apparently, they've had this happen before because they were waiting for me in the courtroom. [01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.000] I guess they figured that I would do the honorable thing and defend my friend. [01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:46.000] So as soon as I walked in and asked to speak to the county attorney who was handling the case, and I gave him the case number, [01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:50.000] he said, oh, just sit down over there, and I'll call you back up. [01:24:50.000 --> 01:25:01.000] He got the watch sergeant and the other security guys already called me back up, and they pounced on me, roughed me up a bit in court. [01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.000] And the judge started yelling at me. [01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:07.000] And I said, well, I'm being assaulted in your court, Judge. [01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:09.000] I don't know what you want from me. [01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:14.000] But they took me out, put me in handcuffs, they placed me under arrest for obstruction of justice. [01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:23.000] And they threatened that if I didn't cooperate with them, I would spend a good portion of their immediate future in their jail. [01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:29.000] And so I just kind of clammed up and kept quiet. [01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:33.000] But I told them, I said, you know, I haven't done anything wrong. [01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.000] I don't know what you're accusing me of. [01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:39.000] I don't know what your basis for these accusations are. [01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:44.000] I just came here to speak to the county attorney, not to you. [01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:46.000] So we went round and round about that. [01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:47.000] They called for backup. [01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:55.000] And I told them at the time, I said, but I wish to inform you that you are, that I believe you are kidnapping. [01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.000] And they kind of chuckled about that. [01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:01.000] They called for a guy to come and transport me to jail. [01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:10.000] And when he came up and they tried to hand me over to him, I looked at him and I said, I wish to inform you at this time I believe you are now kidnapping. [01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:16.000] He looked at the sergeant who had put the cuffs on me and thanked him for bringing him into the middle of this. [01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:17.000] And the sergeant said, well, don't worry. [01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:18.000] I'll take it. [01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:25.000] So he brought me over to the jail, handcuffed me to the wall, left me there for a while. [01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:38.000] And then he, after he figured I'd been softened up a bit, he came out and said, well, you're going to cooperate with me or you're going to basically you're going to spend the near future here for as long as I wish. [01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.000] I said, well, am I indeed under arrest? [01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:42.000] He goes, yes, you're under arrest. [01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:43.000] What's the charge? [01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:44.000] Obstruction of justice. [01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:45.000] I said, OK. [01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:49.000] I wish to be read my right at this time. [01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:53.000] And he said, no, I'm just going to give you, I'm just going to book you. [01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:56.000] I'm just going to do the administrative stuff. [01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:00.000] I said, well, if I'm under arrest, shouldn't you read me my right? [01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:10.000] So he read the big sigh and stomped off and went around the corner and got his Miranda rights, came back and read them to me and asked me if I understood. [01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:12.000] And I said, yes. [01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:21.000] And then he proceeded to get the information from me, name, birth date, et cetera, et cetera, which I gave him. [01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:34.000] And then along the way, he continued to intimate that unless I came up with some sort of a bond, I would be held there indefinitely until I came up with some sort of a bond. [01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:43.000] He then dropped all the charges against my friend and issued them on me with an addition of obstructing justice. [01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:58.000] So now I have a ticket for seatbelt required dash driver under Illinois Code 625 5-12-603-1. [01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:04.000] And as I was listening to your last caller, I formulated a question. [01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:07.000] If we have the right to travel, why do we need to look at these codes? [01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:09.000] And you answered that as I was listening. [01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.000] So I appreciate that. [01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:17.000] Right now, as I was waiting to come on the phone, I pulled up the codes and I'm starting to read through them. [01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:18.000] Yeah. [01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:25.000] Well, as far as the obstructing justice charge goes, on what elements are they basing that charge? [01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:32.000] Because you cannot obstruct justice by refusing to provide them with evidence or information that they can use against you. [01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:37.000] You're not required to talk to the police in any way, shape, or form or the prosecutor or the judge. [01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:46.000] So how could you be obstructing by not answering questions or giving information pertinent to you? [01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.000] Well, that's a great question. [01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:53.000] And all I can do is read to you what he put here. [01:28:53.000 --> 01:29:07.000] He said the defendant, quote, knowingly obstructed the performance of Officer Blank, badge number Blank, of an authorized act within his office, [01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:12.000] within his official capacity, being the identification of me. [01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:20.000] In other words, I withheld identification to this peace officer engaged in the execution of his official duty. [01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.000] What official duty? [01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:30.000] I withheld official duties in that he refused – well, it doesn't say what official duties. [01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:31.000] Exactly. [01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000] It doesn't say. [01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:36.000] Are they talking about at the time of the traffic stop or are they talking about the court appearance? 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[01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.000] All right, Joe. [01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:44.000] All right. [01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:50.000] I just read the rest of this particular citation for obstruction. [01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:59.000] It says that basically I interfered with his official duties because he, me, I guess, [01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:09.000] refused to produce identification or identify himself after being stopped for a traffic violation. [01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:15.000] Well, do you or do you not have the right to remain silent? [01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:18.000] Well, yeah, I should back up for a second. [01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:21.000] While I was there, I was trying to fumble through the script because I didn't have it. [01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:24.000] At one point, I said that I wished to go. [01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:25.000] I hadn't heard anybody. [01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:27.000] And I said, may I go? [01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.000] They go on my way. [01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:30.000] He goes, no, you're not. [01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:32.000] I said, so am I being detained in your custody? [01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:33.000] He said, yes, you are. [01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:36.000] I said, then I reasonably understand that I'm under arrest. [01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.000] And at this time, I wish to have you redeem my right. [01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:40.000] He goes, you're not under arrest. [01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.000] I said, well, then am I free to go? [01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.000] He said, no, you're not free to go. [01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:48.000] I said, well, then if I'm under arrest, I wish at this time to be read my right. [01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:49.000] He said, you're not under arrest. [01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.000] I said, well, then am I free to go? [01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:52.000] Okay. [01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:56.000] Then you need the audio and video from their cruisers and body microphones and any that [01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:57.000] you may have made. [01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:59.000] You need copies of all that. [01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:00.000] You need recordings. [01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:05.000] You need to prove that you established that you were not under arrest and therefore not [01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:07.000] required to provide any such information. [01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:14.000] Then you need to find what, is there a failure to identify a statute there in Illinois? [01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.000] I don't know. [01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:20.000] You need to look in the penal code and find out and see what the requirements are for [01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:23.000] your identification to a police officer and when it's required. [01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:27.000] But the issue here is this when it comes to the transportation. [01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:32.000] You cannot be compelled to waive your right to remain silent. [01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:33.000] Okay? [01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:38.000] You cannot be compelled to produce any information that officer can use against you in a court [01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:43.000] of law or to potentially incriminate you in any criminal activity whatsoever, ever. [01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:50.000] So if they are trying to say you didn't produce physical identification, there is no law on [01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.000] any books that can make you do so because you're never required to have it. [01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:58.000] And if it's something like a license that they can use to incriminate you or against [01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:05.000] you in a court, you can't be required to produce that either. [01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:08.000] This is straight up common sense on the right of due process. [01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:13.000] Of course, the courts don't operate on common sense, nor on actual rights of due process. [01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:15.000] But the argument can still be made. [01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.000] That's exactly what's happening here. [01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:20.000] Okay. [01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:26.000] Let's say I didn't, they don't have, because like I said, I didn't have my script, so I [01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.000] didn't ask them if they were making a recording. [01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:33.000] I'm pretty sure they weren't because I didn't see any body microphones or any kind of video equipment. [01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:40.000] Well, don't be pretty sure until you've filed an information request and discovery to get them. [01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:42.000] Okay. [01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:46.000] Because I don't know of any city in any state in America anymore that does not have police [01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:51.000] cars that don't have cameras and microphones in them. [01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:54.000] Well, I never came out of my vehicle. [01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:55.000] Out of your what? [01:36:55.000 --> 01:36:58.000] I remember talking about, you know, out of my automobile, sorry. [01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:03.000] I never left my automobile and I was fully prepared from the start cracking the glass, [01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:04.000] but he never went there. [01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:05.000] Okay. [01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.000] Well, that's not relevant whether or not you ever came out of it. [01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:12.000] The question is, what did they have that could see you? [01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.000] They could have had a cruiser parked at the block or somewhere else. [01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.000] They could have been wearing body cameras and you not even know it. [01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:26.000] Some of those body cameras are extremely small and operate, they look just like a button on a uniform. [01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:27.000] Okay. [01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:31.000] So file an information request and discovery to verify that. [01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:42.000] No, to obtain certified copies of. [01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:43.000] Okay. [01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:49.000] And get copies of all recordings made by any police cruisers, any body microphones or cameras, [01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:55.000] or any other means of recording available at the time. [01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:56.000] Okay. [01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.000] Let's say they don't have any of that. [01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:01.000] Will an affidavit for me? [01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:05.000] They'll just lie and it'll be their word against yours, affidavit or not. [01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:08.000] If they really want to screw you over, they'll just lie. [01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:09.000] No, we never told him that. [01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:11.000] No, he never asked that. [01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:15.000] Hence, the other thing that's in the script, that based upon what you're telling me, [01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:20.000] you didn't remember to do, have something that records in your possession. [01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.000] You said you turned your phone on after that? [01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:27.000] No, no, I grabbed my phone because I remember you saying that. [01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:28.000] Okay. [01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.000] Did you record it? [01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:33.000] No, I thought I did. [01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:34.000] Okay. [01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.000] I hit the button. [01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:36.000] All right. [01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.000] So back to what I was originally going to say, you didn't do that. [01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:45.000] So if they don't have it, guess where you are left. [01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:47.000] Screw you, tattoo. [01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:48.000] There you go. [01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:51.000] I hope you like blue. [01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:59.000] Well, if they don't have it, which I'm pretty sure I'm going to find out they don't, [01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:01.000] it'll be no surprise to me. [01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.000] I'll just move forward with an affidavit, you know, [01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:08.000] and I'll try to be able to depose the police there. [01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:11.000] I don't think they'll all lie because there was four of them standing around me. [01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:14.000] One of them called me a sovereign citizen, [01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:17.000] and at that time I put both hands on the steering wheel and I said, [01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:20.000] I know nothing about sovereign citizens. [01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:27.000] All I know is that I'm an American and I'm traveling and I wish to be left alone. [01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:31.000] And at that time, that guy backed away. [01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:38.000] Okay, go read Section 107-14 of the Illinois Code. [01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:44.000] My friend Johnny Enigma here was kind enough to look it up and pop it up on Skype for me. [01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:51.000] So Section 107-14, now that says when an officer can stop and detain [01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:54.000] and request information and how they can do so. [01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.000] We'll read a little further around there and see if there is anything specific [01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:02.000] as to whether or not you're required to provide it [01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:08.000] and what pieces of information you are required to provide in response. [01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:13.000] Okay, he did mention a carry stop, which I'm familiar with the case, [01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:17.000] Terry v. Ohio, and I told him at the time, I said, [01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:24.000] that doesn't apply because you have no articulable reason to be stopping me. [01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:26.000] In other words, I haven't committed any crime. [01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:29.000] I told him, just like I said to you, I haven't committed any crime. [01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:30.000] I'm traveling. [01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:31.000] I've already informed you. [01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:35.000] Yeah, but you're doing something else that the script says don't do. [01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:41.000] You're trying to educate and argue with the cop. [01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:47.000] How well would you expect to be sitting out in your lawn chair [01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:53.000] and trying to teach philosophy to a rock? [01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:58.000] I can't be announced. [01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:03.000] Okay, so I'll read this code, write to due process. [01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:06.000] I think I know how to proceed. [01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:08.000] I'll see what I can do. [01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:13.000] But for your listeners out there, I just want to endorse what you're doing [01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:17.000] and saying had I probably followed all of it, had I had my script there [01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:22.000] or at least memorized it, I probably would have fared better. [01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:25.000] In fact, before they let me go from booking, [01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:29.000] they did tell me that we were basically going to drop the case [01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:33.000] because we knew that the guy we cited wasn't the guy there. [01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.000] They were basically waiting for me to come. [01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:38.000] But they also threatened, as I mentioned earlier, [01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:41.000] that they were going to keep me there until I posted a bond. [01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:44.000] And I told them repeatedly, I don't have a bond. [01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:50.000] But I asked them for two pieces of paper and a pen. [01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:52.000] And he said, I'll give you that once you give me your date of birth. [01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:54.000] I gave him my date of birth. [01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:56.000] He gave me two pieces of paper and a pen. [01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:02.000] Fortunately for me, I read up about writs of Fabius Corpus, [01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:08.000] and I quickly wrote up a writ of Fabius Corpus and made a copy. [01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:12.000] And I signed it and I served it to him. [01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:21.000] And magically, the requirement to give up a bond or stay the night disappeared. [01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:22.000] Yep. [01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:23.000] And he released me online. [01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:27.000] Yeah, sureties can be used in place of a cash bond always. [01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:30.000] I don't know of anywhere other than when there's a capital offense involved [01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:32.000] where they can't. [01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:33.000] Right. [01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:35.000] And at that part, I did know. [01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:38.000] So I did the writ of Fabius Corpus and I handed it to him. [01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:41.000] And his whole demeanor changed. [01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:48.000] His face looked like I had just bluffed him into a hand of poker that I won. [01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:52.000] And as soon as he was done booking me, he said, [01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:56.000] well, I'm going to do you a favor and release you on your signature. [01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:59.000] And I kept my mouth shut because I thought it was funny. [01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:03.000] But for all your people who are listening out there, [01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:05.000] learn what a writ of Fabius Corpus is. [01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:10.000] It got me out of what could have been an uncomfortable evening. [01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:15.000] It got me down in Cleo, just down at the local jail. [01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.000] Useful information. [01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:17.000] Before I go, Eddie? [01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.000] No, that's it. [01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:23.000] Hopefully you got something useful out of it. [01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:24.000] Thank you for your time. [01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:25.000] I appreciate it. [01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:26.000] And keep on keeping up. [01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:27.000] All right, sir. [01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:28.000] You have a good night. [01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:29.000] And thanks for calling in. [01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:30.000] Thank you. [01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:31.000] Thank you. 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[01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:35.000] Appreciate everything. Yeah, sorry about that. Appreciate everything you do. [01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:37.000] I'm going to make this quick because time's running out. [01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:40.000] As a courtesy to the other callers, boy, I tell you what. [01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:42.000] Yeah, okay. What you got? [01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:44.000] Had the trouble that they had. [01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:50.000] This is proactive questions to make sure that I don't wind up in their spot like that somewhere down the road. [01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:51.000] Okay. [01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:58.000] Now, these three questions are based upon a quandary that I'm in. [01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:10.000] The quandary is, have I already waived my rights by applying and possessing a driver's license, paying for registration, tags, and insurance, [01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:15.000] getting my automobile or, as they say, vehicle smogged? [01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:19.000] Absolutely not. The reason for that is twofold at least. [01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:28.000] One, you cannot be required to waive a right to obtain or exercise any benefit or privilege that's made in any other form. [01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:36.000] Nor can they take away a right and replace it with a licensable privilege of any kind. [01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:42.000] All you've done by getting those things is to make you and your car commercial ready. [01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:48.000] If you decide to engage in commercial activity, you're prepared. [01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:53.000] It's just like going out and buy a hunting license until you actually put on the clothes, load the gut, [01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:57.000] and go to the woods and actively look for something to shoot. [01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:05.000] Even though you possess the license, you're not actually hunting, and you didn't waive any rights regarding anything. [01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:08.000] They can't come in your house and search your freezer, for instance. [01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:17.000] They can't come in your house and run down the serial numbers on your gun just because you went and bought that license. [01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:20.000] You're not waiving any rights by obtaining it. [01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:28.000] You're waiving rights by exerting that you're operating under it or asserting that you're operating under it. [01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:31.000] All right, thank you. So I'm not contracted in any way. [01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:36.000] Well, you're not contracted, period. A license is a contrived document. [01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:44.000] It does not meet the legal merits of a contract. [01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:50.000] All right, question number two. Should I take my plates off my automobile? [01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:55.000] Are you prepared to take this fight as far as it will have to go if you do that? [01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:58.000] Well, I want to find out from you. [01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:01.000] I don't know. You can't find that out from me. [01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:06.000] I don't know what you studied, what you haven't studied, how good you are at making court appearances and arguing with another attorney, [01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:09.000] how well you prepared for that, how long you've been doing it. [01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:14.000] I've got no clue. That's not up for me to decide here. It's up to you. [01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:15.000] All right. [01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.000] Let me put it this way. [01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:27.000] Do you feel prepared to step in the ring today with Mike Tyson at his peak and challenge him to a knockdown, drag out, all-world champion belt fight? [01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:28.000] No way, Jose. [01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:29.000] Okay. [01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:37.000] And you wouldn't try unless you trained hard and honestly felt you stood some sort of chance after all the training was done. [01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:44.000] If you trained hard and knew there ain't no way in Sam Hill I'm ever going to be that good to do that, you wouldn't do it, would you? [01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:45.000] No. [01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.000] But you have to make that choice. [01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:53.000] Even if your trainer says, don't step in the ring, you're going to rip your head off and crap down your neck, don't do that, [01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:57.000] it's still up to you whether or not you actually try to do it. [01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:59.000] All right. [01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:01.000] So you have to answer that question. [01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.000] Yep. All right. All right. [01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:07.000] So I'm stepping into unknown waters, unknown territory, in other words. [01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:13.000] And if you have properly studied and prepared for it, it's worse than unknown. It's downright dangerous. [01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:21.000] All right. Then I won't do that. Just hypothetical things that I like to find out if it's worth doing or not. [01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:24.000] All right. Well, I'll give you another piece of advice. [01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:31.000] Unless you've got an insulated tongue, don't lick an electric wire either. [01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:32.000] Well put. [01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:34.000] Okay. Question number three. [01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:41.000] Now, if I choose, I'm not going to do it right now, but in the future if I choose to buy an automobile, [01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:52.000] am I required to have a presentation of a driver's license to a dealer or private party or DMV upon purchasing that automobile? [01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.000] To purchase it, no. [01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:58.000] Okay. So I go to a dealer or some... [01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:04.000] The only reason you would have to produce anything like that would be because you're trying to write a check. [01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:09.000] Now, they may also do it because of the IRS if you try to pay for it in cash [01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:13.000] and it's like, you know, it exceeds a certain dollar value. [01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:20.000] So if you go to a new car dealership and try to buy a new car with cash or something like that, [01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:22.000] yeah, there's going to be all kinds of ruckus over that. [01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:25.000] They don't like that. Not their fault, of course. [01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:31.000] But the government doesn't like you to have nice things paid for in cash when they can't get the finances charges off of it [01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:35.000] or trick you into filling out paperwork because you financed it. [01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:38.000] If you finance it, that's a whole different story. [01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:44.000] Now you've got to give them all kinds of stuff to get approval, to get financed, and blah, blah, blah, and so on and so forth. [01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:48.000] So the best way to do it is to pay for it outright. [01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:51.000] They can't ask you for anything to do that. [01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:56.000] The dealership you buy it from, whether old, used, or new, [01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:00.000] is not required to even register it in the place where you're buying it. [01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.000] When you buy it, you can tell them straight out, [01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:08.000] look, I'm not doing any of the paperwork for registering anything here in this state whatsoever. [01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:14.000] I'm going to take the car and I'm going to move to whatever place like Utah where there's no sales tax. [01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:16.000] There's none of this other crap. [01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:21.000] So I will register the car myself if and when I get to Utah. [01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:23.000] I'm not doing it through you. I don't want you doing it for me. [01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:29.000] I don't want you charging me sales tax in this state because it ain't going to be in this state. [01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:33.000] Then collect all the paperwork, go home with the car. [01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:36.000] You don't have to give them anything. You're not registering it through them. [01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:38.000] You're not giving anything to the state that you're in for it. [01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:44.000] You're actually telling them, look, I'm taking it beyond the jurisdiction of this state to some other state. [01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:51.000] Now, the difference there, of course, is what the legal definition of this state is versus an actual republic like Utah. [01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:57.000] But that's a different argument for a different reason, which we won't get into the details of. [01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:59.000] But do you understand where I'm coming from? [01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:03.000] Yeah, yeah, exactly. So very good. [01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:06.000] Definitely we'll remember those for future reference. [01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:14.000] Now, last but not least, just for fun, just on a lighter note, I've been watching a couple of the video clips that people have put out [01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:18.000] and a couple of people that did some real quick street interviews with you. [01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:23.000] And one of them was interesting. It's invoking your rights on what to say to the police. [01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:28.000] It's probably an old question. You probably answered it a thousand times. But how did you get the black eye, Eddie? [01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:33.000] Wrestling with my ex-girlfriend. She accidentally head-butted me while we were wrestling. [01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.000] Oh, OK. [01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:40.000] Yeah, it was actually earlier that day, and that video was taken around 7.30 that night. [01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:43.000] So it had plenty of time to get that way. [01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:47.000] Don't you get into a boxing match where somebody didn't believe what you were saying or something? [01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:54.000] Oh, no. It never comes to blows like over that kind of stuff. At least it hasn't yet. [01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:57.000] Not even with the cops who don't like it. [01:53:57.000 --> 01:53:58.000] Right. [01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000] But no, she's actually a jello wrestler from time to time. [01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:05.000] And so I was trying to teach her a couple of hip tosses and things like that. [01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:11.000] And she flipped herself too hard once and her head yanked back and hit me right in the eye. [01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000] Ouch. [01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:14.000] Yeah, that's what I said. [01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.000] A little lightning there. [01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:19.000] All righty. Fair enough. Thank you, brother, for all your help. [01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:22.000] I'll let you get on to the last caller, get their information in, [01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.000] and I'll talk to you later when I get done doing my studies, finding statutes. [01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.000] OK. Well, good luck. [01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:29.000] And these people prove. OK. Thanks, Eddie. [01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:31.000] You're welcome. Bye-bye. [01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:37.000] All right. Now we're going to go to Kevin in Michigan. Kevin, what can we do for you? [01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:44.000] Good evening, Eddie. I got a mission. I went to court last week. [01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:48.000] OK. Wait, wait, wait. Kevin, Kevin, I don't know what you're talking into, [01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:51.000] but you sound like you're in the bottom of a tin can. [01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:54.000] Can you do anything to make yourself clearer? [01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:58.000] Get closer to the phone, speak more directly into the handset [01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:00.000] or whatever it is you're talking into. [01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:03.000] Make sure it's not a speakerphone. [01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:06.000] No, it's not. Does it sound a little bit better? [01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:08.000] Well, enunciate a little clearer. [01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:10.000] It doesn't sound any better, [01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:14.000] but if you're a little clearer in the way you're speaking, maybe it'll help. [01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:17.000] OK. I hope that this sounds better. [01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:19.000] OK. Give it a shot. [01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:25.000] I went to the court last week, and I challenged the jurisdiction of the court. [01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:28.000] When the judge claims jurisdiction without any evidence, [01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:33.000] what type of evidence would I need for him to determine jurisdiction? [01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:37.000] What do you mean, what kind of evidence do you need? [01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:40.000] Courts of limited jurisdiction are required to prove [01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:43.000] that they have the jurisdiction they're acting under. [01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:46.000] In a civil case, they would have to plead it directly into the pleadings. [01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:52.000] In a criminal case, they have to have at least three particularities of jurisdiction, [01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:56.000] which is subject matter, impersonal, and venue. [01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:59.000] The question here is, what was the offense? [01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:02.000] If the offense was something relating to transportation, [01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:08.000] then he only has jurisdiction if the statute gives him jurisdiction [01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:13.000] over that specific subject matter in the specific way in which the statute asserts. [01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:19.000] State has standing to bring the issue before the court as an injured party, [01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:23.000] which they never, ever do, and they never, ever prove, [01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:31.000] and whether or not it was done in a place where they have jurisdiction [01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:39.000] and if you were the person that acted in their jurisdiction to perpetrate the alleged crime. [01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:42.000] Okay, it was a civil infraction. [01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:47.000] Okay, wait, infraction, civil infraction. [01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:52.000] How did you get summoned to court with a civil infraction? [01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:54.000] Through a ticket. [01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:57.000] How did you get the ticket? [01:56:57.000 --> 01:56:59.000] I got stopped by the cops. [01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:02.000] Defined stopped. [01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:07.000] I was traveling down the road and I was pulled over. [01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:11.000] He initiated his emergency lights and pulled you over? [01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:12.000] Yes. [01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:15.000] Okay, here is what you've got going for you, [01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:19.000] and there's a couple of shows over the past couple of weeks that deal with this same thing. [01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:21.000] You need to go back and find them and listen to them [01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:23.000] because I don't have time to go into the same level of detail. [01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:26.000] I've got about a minute and a half. [01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:29.000] A civil infraction is exactly that. [01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:31.000] Hold on, don't talk, listen. [01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:36.000] A civil infraction is exactly that, meaning it is not criminal. [01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:43.000] An officer never has probable cause to initiate a warrantless arrest in a civil matter. [01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:49.000] In a civil matter, he must always be in possession of an arrest warrant. [01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:54.000] However, how can they issue an arrest warrant without a statement of probable cause, [01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:59.000] which by definition is required to be based upon a criminal act? [01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:02.000] It's a catch-22 they can't get out of. [01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:08.000] The arrest by the officer for the purpose of issuing the citation was illegal. [01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:11.000] Therefore, everything else is fruit of the poison tree. [01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:13.000] That's what you go after them on. [01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:15.000] Go back and listen to the prior shows. [01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.000] They will give you more details, okay? [01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:22.000] Yeah, they did not map my motion for that, Eddie. [01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:23.000] Say what? [01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:26.000] They denied both of my motions. [01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:28.000] Well, it doesn't matter if they deny the motions. [01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:30.000] They're going to always deny the motions. [01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.000] This is for making the record for appeal, okay? [01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:35.000] Just make sure you do it correctly. [01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:36.000] All right? [01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:37.000] I'm out of time, man. [01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:38.000] Matthew, I'm sorry. [01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.000] I'm not going to get to you here. [01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:43.000] We are out of time on the Monday night show, but thanks for calling in. 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