[00:00.000 --> 00:08.320] You're listening to the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist [00:08.320 --> 00:15.680] updates online at thelibertybeat.com. [00:15.680 --> 00:20.000] This is Justin Armand with your Liberty Beat for May 8th, 2014. [00:20.000 --> 00:23.800] Be sure to check out the website at thelibertybeat.com. [00:23.800 --> 00:26.840] Gold opened today at $1,289. [00:26.840 --> 00:33.520] We're at $19.23 and Bitcoin is trading at $445. [00:33.520 --> 00:37.520] Support for the Liberty Beat comes from Accountable Authority, now offering a public database [00:37.520 --> 00:39.800] of police abuse and misconduct. [00:39.800 --> 00:42.200] Gain community support and protection. [00:42.200 --> 00:47.080] Take action now and join free today at accountableauthority.com. [00:47.080 --> 00:51.360] Support also comes from Take Back Your Power, the award-winning documentary about smart [00:51.360 --> 00:52.920] meter technology. [00:52.920 --> 00:57.520] Special screening Saturday, May 10th from 7 to 9 p.m. at Brave New Books. [00:57.520 --> 01:01.600] That's Saturday, May 10th from 7 to 9 p.m. at Brave New Books. [01:01.600 --> 01:02.600] And now this news. [01:02.600 --> 01:07.880] A successful player in the world of finance reads the book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, [01:07.880 --> 01:13.080] the story of the Federal Reserve, and decides to leave that success behind for a self-sustainable [01:13.080 --> 01:14.240] lifestyle. [01:14.240 --> 01:18.680] That's the story of Marjorie Wildcraft, founder of growyourowngroceries.org. [01:18.680 --> 01:23.880] I had been a professional investor, and when I finally really understood what the money [01:23.880 --> 01:27.920] game was all about, I just said, you know what, I don't want anything more to do with [01:27.920 --> 01:28.920] this. [01:28.920 --> 01:31.720] I just don't want to use my life energy in this way anymore, even though we had a fairly [01:31.720 --> 01:33.840] successful business. [01:33.840 --> 01:37.680] Marjorie's deep investigation into banking and the financial system allowed her to change [01:37.680 --> 01:41.760] her life before the 2008 financial crisis. [01:41.760 --> 01:46.160] She began growing, preparing, and preserving her own food and medicine for herself and [01:46.160 --> 01:47.160] her family. [01:47.160 --> 01:51.160] I said, you know, I really think this is ultimately going to lead to economic collapse. [01:51.160 --> 01:55.080] I said, hey, I want to get back to some basics and figure out how to grow my own food. [01:55.080 --> 01:58.880] That's probably the most important thing to me every day, three times a day. [01:58.880 --> 02:02.480] We had to really shift our lifestyles because we didn't have the income anymore. [02:02.480 --> 02:04.760] But really, I would not go back. [02:04.760 --> 02:10.600] Marjorie, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with our audience. [02:10.600 --> 02:16.440] On Tuesday evening, police officer Stephen Stem fatally shot a 93-year-old woman at her [02:16.440 --> 02:22.560] home in a town northwest of Bryan, Texas, with a population of less than 5,000. [02:22.560 --> 02:27.160] Officers reportedly responded to a 9-11 call about a woman with a gun, but details of the [02:27.160 --> 02:29.160] situation are unknown. [02:29.160 --> 02:33.280] Neighbors describe Pearlie Golden, the victim, as being a sweet woman. [02:33.280 --> 02:36.520] Multiple witnesses say Golden was shot at least five times. [02:36.520 --> 02:41.480] The officer involved has been put on administrative leave while the Texas Rangers and the Robertson [02:41.480 --> 02:45.080] County District Attorney's Office investigate. [02:45.080 --> 02:49.600] Support for the Liberty Beat comes from affordable sound, CD and DVD duplication for all your [02:49.600 --> 02:52.560] print and audio duplication needs. [02:52.560 --> 02:55.120] This is Justin Armand reporting with the Liberty Beat. [02:55.120 --> 03:22.840] Remember, freeing your mind is freeing our world. [03:26.120 --> 03:30.120] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:30.120 --> 03:32.120] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:32.120 --> 03:35.120] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:35.120 --> 03:38.120] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:38.120 --> 03:43.120] When you were eight and you had bad traits You'd go to school and learn the golden rule [03:43.120 --> 03:46.120] So why are you acting like a fluffy fool? [03:46.120 --> 03:49.120] And if you get hot then you must get cool! [03:49.120 --> 03:52.120] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:52.120 --> 03:55.120] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:00.120 --> 04:03.120] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one [04:03.120 --> 04:06.120] You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father [04:06.120 --> 04:09.120] You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister [04:09.120 --> 04:11.120] You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me [04:11.120 --> 04:14.120] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [04:14.120 --> 04:17.120] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:17.120 --> 04:22.120] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? [04:22.120 --> 04:27.120] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? [04:27.120 --> 04:33.120] Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? [04:33.120 --> 04:35.120] Nobody now gives you no break. [04:35.120 --> 04:40.120] Howdy, howdy. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Love Radio. [04:40.120 --> 04:50.120] On this Thursday, Cinco de Ocho. Is that right? No, it was four, I forget. [04:50.120 --> 04:56.120] It was May the 8th, 2014. Thank you all for listening. [04:56.120 --> 05:07.120] And there's something I want to talk about today and it's one of those little things that you don't really think about [05:07.120 --> 05:18.120] but over time, watching cases play out, you begin to notice some things that are consistent. [05:18.120 --> 05:33.120] And it's always the ones who tend to beat the system or beat the issues are the ones who really pay attention to the details. [05:33.120 --> 05:43.120] Every time you really start digging into the details, especially when you're dealing with public officials, they never ever get it right. [05:43.120 --> 05:51.120] And unfortunately, most of my experiences with lawyers is the same way. [05:51.120 --> 06:04.120] And in doing research, I guess a lot of guys who do some heavy research have this same thing that they really enjoy. [06:04.120 --> 06:10.120] I was doing a case today. I was doing an evaluation of some public records. [06:10.120 --> 06:18.120] And stuff just keeps creeping out of the records when you play close attention to the details. [06:18.120 --> 06:25.120] In this one on first blush, everything looked fairly correct. [06:25.120 --> 06:33.120] They had a problem in that the original lender never signed an assignment to anyone. [06:33.120 --> 06:41.120] They never appointed a substitute trustee, but a substitute trustee did a foreclosure. [06:41.120 --> 06:56.120] So that was a serious problem they had, but in looking closer at it and piecing together all the little pieces in the details, [06:56.120 --> 07:03.120] it appears that the trustee knew full well he didn't have authority to do the sale. [07:03.120 --> 07:10.120] Because generally when you get a deed of trust, the deed of trust will name the grantor. [07:10.120 --> 07:14.120] It'll name the trustee and it'll name the grantee. [07:14.120 --> 07:28.120] So the borrower is or whoever claims to be the holder of the note will be the grantor. [07:28.120 --> 07:35.120] And the one who has purchased the property will be the grantee. [07:35.120 --> 07:53.120] Well, in this one, the company that did the note in 2001, United Lending Partners LP, had went out of business in 2005. [07:53.120 --> 08:03.120] But they didn't file an assignment of the security instrument or an appointment of substitute trustee before they went out of business. [08:03.120 --> 08:17.120] And then the trustee comes along or it's the guy Jeff Johnston comes along and files a substitute trustee's deed in the record. [08:17.120 --> 08:26.120] Well, in the security instrument, the trustee was named as a Robert Wilson. [08:26.120 --> 08:32.120] There's nothing in there to indicate that Jeff Johnston had anything to do with anything. [08:32.120 --> 08:34.120] And that's not uncommon. I see that quite a bit. [08:34.120 --> 08:42.120] Matter of fact, I've got two or three with Jeff Johnston doing a foreclosure when he had no authority to do it. [08:42.120 --> 08:55.120] But this one was somewhat different because in this one, they knew the original lender went out of business without doing the proper assignments. [08:55.120 --> 09:08.120] So generally when I see like if you see a assignment of the security instrument by MERS, when MERS does an assignment, [09:08.120 --> 09:18.120] if the original lender is still in business, they will generally say that MERS is acting as nominee for the original lender. [09:18.120 --> 09:28.120] If the original lender is not in business anymore, then they'll just say that MERS is doing the foreclosure. [09:28.120 --> 09:33.120] They won't say that as nominee for the original lender won't be in there. [09:33.120 --> 09:41.120] And when I evaluate these documents, I look for that particular wording as a clue to go back and see if the original lender is still in existence. [09:41.120 --> 09:48.120] Well, this one didn't it didn't reflect MERS at all because there was no assignments of any kind. [09:48.120 --> 09:57.120] But the deed of trust named as the grantor, the trustee. [09:57.120 --> 10:06.120] And it took a while to realize what I was seeing. The grantor was the trustee. [10:06.120 --> 10:17.120] So it takes digging down into the details to sort out what exactly is wrong with that. [10:17.120 --> 10:38.120] Well, under Texas Business and Commerce Code 21.002 in Texas, a lender may not cause the borrower to transfer the property to the lender. [10:38.120 --> 10:41.120] This is a deed of trust state. [10:41.120 --> 10:53.120] In this state, if there is a security instrument, then the security instrument must be put in the hand of a trustee. [10:53.120 --> 11:05.120] A trustee is neither the borrower nor the lender, but is a third party who holds legal title in trust for both parties. [11:05.120 --> 11:12.120] Legal title is not transferred to the trustee. The trustee just holds legal title. [11:12.120 --> 11:23.120] In this one, in order for the trustee to be the grantor, the trustee would have to be the holder. [11:23.120 --> 11:31.120] Well, he put himself as the grantor because he knew the holder didn't exist anymore. [11:31.120 --> 11:39.120] And there was a requirement to file any changes in the security instrument. [11:39.120 --> 11:53.120] 13.001 says that any claim not properly acknowledged or proven and filed in the county record is voidous to the holder. [11:53.120 --> 12:01.120] So even a claim, that claim is not filed in the public record, not properly filed in the public record. [12:01.120 --> 12:02.120] You can't express that claim. [12:02.120 --> 12:06.120] This is pretty consistent across all the states. [12:06.120 --> 12:13.120] Without that requirement, there would be no reason to have a county recorder's office. [12:13.120 --> 12:28.120] If you couldn't go to the county recorder's office, look in there at a piece of property and determine what claims were against that property, then there's no purpose of having it. [12:28.120 --> 12:43.120] So Texas has 13.001 and every other state I've looked at has a similar statute that says if you have a claim against real property, you must file that claim with the county recorder. [12:43.120 --> 12:56.120] That's so there's a central location that anybody who's contemplating purchasing property can go check to see if there are claims against that property. [12:56.120 --> 13:13.120] So there was a claim against the property in the form of deed of trust, but it granted a claim to this United Lending Partners LP. [13:13.120 --> 13:16.120] That company didn't exist anymore. [13:16.120 --> 13:21.120] A company, a corporation is a legal fiction. [13:21.120 --> 13:29.120] And according to Texas law, a legal fiction corporation is a person under law. [13:29.120 --> 13:33.120] A person just doesn't just mean a living, breathing human being. [13:33.120 --> 13:35.120] It also means a legal fiction. [13:35.120 --> 13:41.120] A legal fiction, a legal entity has rights similar to a human being. [13:41.120 --> 13:44.120] So they call them a person under law. [13:44.120 --> 13:52.120] But the problem they got is the person died and a dead guy can't express a claim. [13:52.120 --> 13:58.120] And there was no probate because it was a corporation. [13:58.120 --> 14:06.120] So when the corporation went out of business, there was no one to make a claim against the property. [14:06.120 --> 14:15.120] And this guy, we have, I have filed similar claims against this Jeff Johnston before. [14:15.120 --> 14:25.120] And apparently he realized the problem and tried to find a way to sneak around it because he claimed himself as the grantor. [14:25.120 --> 14:31.120] Well, in order for that to happen, this would have to be a mortgage state. [14:31.120 --> 14:44.120] In a mortgage state or what we call a judicial state, Illinois, I forget, a number of Florida, [14:44.120 --> 14:50.120] in order to foreclose, the lender has to go to court and sue for foreclosure. [14:50.120 --> 14:57.120] When you write a mortgage, you grant a claim to the lender against the property. [14:57.120 --> 15:00.120] You confess the claim. [15:00.120 --> 15:02.120] So they can sue the property. [15:02.120 --> 15:04.120] They can file a suit. [15:04.120 --> 15:06.120] It's technically an in rim. [15:06.120 --> 15:13.120] They technically sue the property in court because they already have a claim against it. [15:13.120 --> 15:23.120] And in a mortgage state, you literally transfer the property to the mortgagee or to the lender. [15:23.120 --> 15:31.120] In Texas, Texas Business Commerce Code 21002 specifically forbids it. [15:31.120 --> 15:38.120] A lender cannot cause the borrower to transfer the property to the lender. [15:38.120 --> 15:47.120] They can get a claim against the lender and get a lien against the property, but they can't transfer the property into their name. [15:47.120 --> 15:56.120] So in this case, the trustee claimed to be the holder of the property, holder of the beneficial interest of the property. [15:56.120 --> 16:04.120] And the holder of, that would be the holder of equitable title and the holder of legal title. [16:04.120 --> 16:09.120] Now, legal title is supposed to be held by the trustee, but not equitable title. [16:09.120 --> 16:12.120] That's held by the beneficiary. [16:12.120 --> 16:15.120] The problem, they didn't have a beneficiary. [16:15.120 --> 16:23.120] He modified the document, tampered with the government document in order to hide the fact that he didn't have authority. [16:23.120 --> 16:29.120] And I'll, when we get back on the other side, I'll talk about what crimes he committed when he did that. [16:29.120 --> 16:31.120] Our phone lines are open. [16:31.120 --> 16:36.120] Give us a call, 512-646-1984. [16:36.120 --> 16:38.120] We'll have the phone lines open all night. [16:38.120 --> 16:42.120] We'll be taking questions on most any subject. [16:42.120 --> 16:45.120] So give us a call. [16:45.120 --> 16:49.120] Looks like I'll be manning the horn all night. [16:49.120 --> 16:52.120] So let's see if we can stump the chump. [16:52.120 --> 16:53.120] That happens every once in a while. [16:53.120 --> 17:00.120] And we'll be right back. [17:00.120 --> 17:06.120] Through advances in technology, our lives have greatly improved, except in the area of nutrition. [17:06.120 --> 17:09.120] People feed their pets better than they feed themselves. [17:09.120 --> 17:11.120] And it's time we changed all that. 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[20:03.120 --> 20:11.120] Look at the details. When I file, when this document gets filed, I'm not going to file it, I'm actually writing it for somebody else. [20:11.120 --> 20:19.120] They are going to look at this and have to scratch their head a while to figure out what the problem is. [20:19.120 --> 20:23.120] And then they are going to have to figure out, try to figure out a way to get around it. [20:23.120 --> 20:35.120] Every time I look at one of these, every time I look closely at one of these, I always find problems and interesting problems that I didn't expect. [20:35.120 --> 20:39.120] If you have been, say, accused of a crime. [20:39.120 --> 20:47.120] Last Friday we had someone call in, they were accused of a crime, and she was trying to help someone who was accused of a crime. [20:47.120 --> 20:50.120] And I asked her, well, what are the elements of the crime? [20:50.120 --> 20:54.120] And there was this dead air. [20:54.120 --> 21:01.120] If you've been accused of anything or if you're in a civil action, read the law. [21:01.120 --> 21:14.120] If you have been accused of a crime, every criminal accusation, every crime in Texas has a set of elements which must be there. [21:14.120 --> 21:20.120] Read the code, look at what the elements are, and then look at the charge. [21:20.120 --> 21:28.120] Is every element necessary for the crime, including in the charging instrument? [21:28.120 --> 21:34.120] If it's not, you don't argue whether you're guilty or innocent. [21:34.120 --> 21:38.120] You argue the sufficiency of the charging instrument. [21:38.120 --> 21:46.120] And if it's a civil matter, civil matters, you don't just go in and say this guy did this or he did that. [21:46.120 --> 21:53.120] You have to make a claim under a defined cause of action. [21:53.120 --> 22:08.120] Kind of civil, except these are civil complaints instead of criminal complaints, but both complaints must make the allegation based on something that is defined. [22:08.120 --> 22:11.120] In the penal, it's the penal code. [22:11.120 --> 22:20.120] In the civil, it is the defined causes of action that are defined by the courts in this state. [22:20.120 --> 22:31.120] Now, these aren't actually statutes, but this is what the case law says must be there for you to make this claim against a person in a civil court. [22:31.120 --> 22:40.120] If you don't know what the elements of a cause of action are, you have no idea how to defend yourself. [22:40.120 --> 22:47.120] And I almost never see a complaint that addresses all the elements. [22:47.120 --> 22:50.120] Lawyers aren't meticulous. [22:50.120 --> 22:55.120] For the most part, lawyers don't really care that much. [22:55.120 --> 22:59.120] They're too busy to get into the fine detail. [22:59.120 --> 23:04.120] They always, for the most part, file the same motions back and forth. [23:04.120 --> 23:09.120] Lawyers tend to do this little song and dance and seltzer down your pants. [23:09.120 --> 23:11.120] The one side files the motion. [23:11.120 --> 23:15.120] The other side files in opposition to the motion. [23:15.120 --> 23:18.120] Then the second side files a motion. [23:18.120 --> 23:20.120] The first side files in opposition to the motion. [23:20.120 --> 23:24.120] They're almost always the same motions back and forth. [23:24.120 --> 23:36.120] Both sides know what both sides are going to do when they start in, and they do this little dance so they can bill you time. [23:36.120 --> 23:37.120] That's what they do. [23:37.120 --> 23:40.120] They're in business to make money. [23:40.120 --> 23:41.120] They're not Perry Mason. [23:41.120 --> 23:45.120] Perry Mason's in business to do the right thing by his client. [23:45.120 --> 23:50.120] Now attorneys would like to do that, but they have to pay the office expenses. [23:50.120 --> 23:53.120] They have to keep the lights turned on, so they've got to make money. [23:53.120 --> 23:58.120] And it tends to evolve into just a routine. [23:58.120 --> 24:05.120] If you want your case actively adjudicated, you're going to have to do the homework. [24:05.120 --> 24:12.120] You're going to have to bring the issues to the lawyer and insist that the lawyer do what he's required to do. [24:12.120 --> 24:16.120] In order to do that, you've got to dig in the details. [24:16.120 --> 24:19.120] You don't have to know all of the law that's out there. [24:19.120 --> 24:21.120] Just look at your case. [24:21.120 --> 24:26.120] First thing you look at, the statute or the cause of action. [24:26.120 --> 24:38.120] If they haven't addressed every element, if they haven't charged a breach of every element, say, of a cause of action, [24:38.120 --> 24:42.120] then you file a motion to dismiss a favorite state claim which can't be had. [24:42.120 --> 24:44.120] I get those all the time. [24:44.120 --> 24:47.120] We get those no matter what we file. [24:47.120 --> 24:52.120] The lawyer on the other side, it's a matter of course they file that claim. [24:52.120 --> 24:57.120] And it's really good practice. [24:57.120 --> 25:04.120] Then you test the claim the other side has made before the judge, and the judge decides if your claim is sufficient or not. [25:04.120 --> 25:13.120] So everybody does it every time, so you have to make sure you have all of the elements in a claim that you make. [25:13.120 --> 25:19.120] Or if you've had a claim against you, you've got to make sure that they have addressed all the elements. [25:19.120 --> 25:25.120] And when you start digging into details this way, you will be surprised what you pulled out. [25:25.120 --> 25:28.120] We do have a caller. [25:28.120 --> 25:34.120] It is Jeff from Mississippi, and we're going to take him to see if we can get an update on his case. [25:34.120 --> 25:36.120] Hello, Jeff. [25:36.120 --> 25:39.120] Hi, Randy. Thanks for having me on the show. [25:39.120 --> 25:41.120] Glad to have you. [25:41.120 --> 25:43.120] How are things going in Hillbilly land? [25:43.120 --> 25:51.120] Well, unfortunately my computer has been on the frets for the whole week, so I haven't been able to work on the computer. [25:51.120 --> 25:58.120] I did email you a couple of sheets of, a couple of documents that I had done. [25:58.120 --> 26:08.120] And I basically emailed you that I put a bar complaint and a criminal complaint to the attorney general [26:08.120 --> 26:15.120] for the district attorney forging the indictment. [26:15.120 --> 26:20.120] That should raise some eyebrows. [26:20.120 --> 26:26.120] Well, you know, the strange thing is, is I've never received a response. [26:26.120 --> 26:36.120] And I heard somewhere that my complaint to the attorney general should have been notarized, and that's what I was wondering. [26:36.120 --> 26:38.120] Absolutely must be notarized. [26:38.120 --> 26:42.120] Okay. Mine was not, so does that make it garbage? [26:42.120 --> 26:43.120] Yes. [26:43.120 --> 26:44.120] Okay. [26:44.120 --> 26:45.120] They'll just trash it. [26:45.120 --> 26:47.120] So that's okay. [26:47.120 --> 26:52.120] Now you send them another one and give them more detail this time. [26:52.120 --> 26:54.120] Okay. [26:54.120 --> 26:55.120] Okay. [26:55.120 --> 27:05.120] And I've never received a response back for, I mailed a public information request to the circuit clerk asking for, [27:05.120 --> 27:13.120] or the city comptroller asking for the voucher of the court reporter that should have been at the grand jury hearing. [27:13.120 --> 27:17.120] And I've never received a response back for that. [27:17.120 --> 27:18.120] Okay. [27:18.120 --> 27:22.120] Have you checked the Open Records Act in Mississippi? [27:22.120 --> 27:26.120] Is it a civil statute or a criminal statute? [27:26.120 --> 27:29.120] I did not see where it said that. [27:29.120 --> 27:36.120] The only thing it said is that it could be punishable by 30 days in jail or a $200 fine. [27:36.120 --> 27:37.120] That's criminal. [27:37.120 --> 27:39.120] That's criminal, okay. [27:39.120 --> 27:47.120] Absolutely. You know, they'll say, well, okay, they didn't provide the documents, so you need to sue them. [27:47.120 --> 27:49.120] I said, no, I don't. [27:49.120 --> 27:50.120] Okay. [27:50.120 --> 27:52.120] I need them put in jails when I need them. [27:52.120 --> 27:55.120] It's a criminal statute, not a civil statute. [27:55.120 --> 27:56.120] Yes. [27:56.120 --> 28:12.120] So the best response from my perspective to a failure on the part of a public official to respond to an information request is a criminal complaint. [28:12.120 --> 28:21.120] And a good way to make sure the criminal complaint gets known about is you go down to court, go down to a high level court. [28:21.120 --> 28:23.120] What's a higher level court? [28:23.120 --> 28:26.120] District or circuit in Mississippi? [28:26.120 --> 28:28.120] I'm in the circuit. [28:28.120 --> 28:33.120] I guess the circuit is the highest for the region. [28:33.120 --> 28:36.120] One hears felonies. [28:36.120 --> 28:47.120] Go in there and check with the clerk and find out when the court has a day set for motion hearings. [28:47.120 --> 28:49.120] Okay. [28:49.120 --> 28:55.120] And then take your complaint, put it in an envelope, seal it, and go to the court. [28:55.120 --> 29:01.120] Make sure you're wearing a suit and tie so they think you're a lawyer. [29:01.120 --> 29:14.120] Walk up to the bar, point to the bailiff, you come here, and then tell him your name and tell him to instruct the judge that you have business with the court. [29:14.120 --> 29:19.120] Bailiff will always say, may I tell him the nature of the business? Yes, you may. Give him this. [29:19.120 --> 29:23.120] And you give him this sealed folder. [29:23.120 --> 29:27.120] And then you go sit down. [29:27.120 --> 29:32.120] Then you wait for the judge. He'll wait until he finishes his motion hearings. [29:32.120 --> 29:34.120] Then he'll look at what you got. [29:34.120 --> 29:42.120] And he will probably advise you to take it to some policing agency or some such nonsense. [29:42.120 --> 29:45.120] And you let him do whatever he does. 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[33:12.120 --> 33:37.120] Okay. [33:37.120 --> 33:39.120] I'm in trouble. [33:39.120 --> 33:41.120] I talked right over the cliffs that time. [33:41.120 --> 33:42.120] I wasn't watching the clock. [33:42.120 --> 33:46.120] Deb was going to skin me alive for that. [33:46.120 --> 33:47.120] My bad. [33:47.120 --> 33:51.120] Okay. [33:51.120 --> 33:52.120] Hold on. [33:52.120 --> 33:58.120] My page just clonked out so I can't send you to go live. [33:58.120 --> 34:12.120] Deb, if you're listening, will you hit the go live for Jeff so we can talk? [34:12.120 --> 34:13.120] Okay. [34:13.120 --> 34:14.120] Give me just a second. [34:14.120 --> 34:17.120] But we were talking about filing these complaints. [34:17.120 --> 34:18.120] There we go. [34:18.120 --> 34:19.120] Okay, Jeff. [34:19.120 --> 34:20.120] You there? [34:20.120 --> 34:21.120] I'm here. [34:21.120 --> 34:22.120] Okay. [34:22.120 --> 34:23.120] Got it. [34:23.120 --> 34:27.120] My connections are a little slow today, it appears. [34:27.120 --> 34:33.120] Generally, we get the bumper music, but I didn't hear it because I was too busy beating my gums. [34:33.120 --> 34:34.120] Okay. [34:34.120 --> 34:39.120] On the break, I was trying to look up something on grand juries in Mississippi. [34:39.120 --> 34:45.120] Have you looked up the duties of grand juries in the Mississippi Code of Criminal Procedure? [34:45.120 --> 34:47.120] Yes. [34:47.120 --> 34:52.120] What does it say are the duties of the grand jury? [34:52.120 --> 34:53.120] Okay. [34:53.120 --> 34:58.120] I don't have my computer, but it does say that, oh, I'm sorry, the duties. [34:58.120 --> 35:06.120] The thing that I've got memorized are the duties for the court reporter and the foreman. [35:06.120 --> 35:09.120] Foreman of the grand jury, what's the foreman's duties? [35:09.120 --> 35:19.120] The foreman's duty is to give the report of the grand jury to the clerk of the court. [35:19.120 --> 35:20.120] She is to present that to. [35:20.120 --> 35:25.120] Is there any quorum requirement? [35:25.120 --> 35:26.120] Let me explain. [35:26.120 --> 35:35.120] In Texas, it says that the foreman shall read the indictments to the court and the clerk with, [35:35.120 --> 35:40.120] it says to the court with the quorum of the grand jury present. [35:40.120 --> 35:42.120] Is there anything like that? [35:42.120 --> 35:45.120] I have not seen that, but I will get on it. [35:45.120 --> 35:51.120] Okay. So if there's not, that is a prescription for fraud. [35:51.120 --> 36:00.120] It literally opens the door for the prosecuting attorney to just talk to the foreman and say, [36:00.120 --> 36:01.120] we don't have to worry about that. [36:01.120 --> 36:08.120] We've got this and get him to just give the indictments he wants to the grand jury, [36:08.120 --> 36:13.120] I mean, to the clerk without a quorum present. [36:13.120 --> 36:19.120] That's why Texas has that prescription is to make sure that there's enough there [36:19.120 --> 36:22.120] that they can't mess around with the results. [36:22.120 --> 36:26.120] So we talked about this before and you didn't find that. [36:26.120 --> 36:36.120] So this sounds like it is designed so that a prosecutor will be inclined to cheat. [36:36.120 --> 36:38.120] Okay. [36:38.120 --> 36:45.120] It is necessary that we put the proper checks and balances in place because otherwise [36:45.120 --> 36:55.120] well-meaning officials will tend to make seemingly minor adjustments [36:55.120 --> 36:59.120] for administrative convenience and educated expediency. [36:59.120 --> 37:05.120] And when nobody screams, they make more little adjustments and more little adjustments. [37:05.120 --> 37:13.120] And you look around one day and you're so far away from the rule of law, you can't get back. [37:13.120 --> 37:18.120] I find this on most states I go to. [37:18.120 --> 37:25.120] It's because you and I haven't gotten in there and forced them to do what they were supposed to. [37:25.120 --> 37:29.120] The first time they stepped across a legal line, [37:29.120 --> 37:33.120] we didn't jump up and down and rail in righteous indignation. [37:33.120 --> 37:39.120] And we allowed them to get themselves in a position that they can't get back out of [37:39.120 --> 37:45.120] without somebody having some serious difficulty. [37:45.120 --> 37:46.120] Okay. [37:46.120 --> 37:50.120] That's why I say, you know, I filed these criminal complaints, [37:50.120 --> 37:56.120] but I don't really want the person indicted. [37:56.120 --> 38:03.120] I would really rather that there were some much simpler way, [38:03.120 --> 38:05.120] but that's what we have in front of us. [38:05.120 --> 38:08.120] That's the remedy that we have. [38:08.120 --> 38:16.120] So in doing this, the best ones we can file are the most nitpicking ones, [38:16.120 --> 38:20.120] the teensiest, tiniest ones we can find, [38:20.120 --> 38:24.120] because they look at that and they say, holy mackerel. [38:24.120 --> 38:27.120] You know, the thing I was talking about before, [38:27.120 --> 38:33.120] this guy files this deed of trust and he makes some adjustments to make it look better. [38:33.120 --> 38:40.120] Well, I'll be charging him with securing and executing a document by deception felony, [38:40.120 --> 38:45.120] aggravated perjury felony, tampering with a government document felony, [38:45.120 --> 38:49.120] theft of real property by conversion felony. [38:49.120 --> 38:54.120] Now he's not thinking about committing all these felonies, [38:54.120 --> 39:00.120] but we have so many checks and balances written into law [39:00.120 --> 39:06.120] that in order to do this kind of stuff these officials are doing that's improper, [39:06.120 --> 39:10.120] they have to violate a whole bunch of them. [39:10.120 --> 39:16.120] And for a prosecutor to bypass the grand jury, [39:16.120 --> 39:24.120] to bring an indictment to the court when there's evidence that the grand jury didn't sit that day, [39:24.120 --> 39:27.120] that could put him in a penitentiary. [39:27.120 --> 39:28.120] Yeah. [39:28.120 --> 39:35.120] I mean, you would think that's a really, really big deal. [39:35.120 --> 39:38.120] So why would the moron do that? [39:38.120 --> 39:41.120] He'll do that because that's the way the guys before him did it [39:41.120 --> 39:44.120] and the guys before that did it. [39:44.120 --> 39:47.120] They never had any problem. [39:47.120 --> 39:53.120] So I'll take you apart on the tiny little pieces. [39:53.120 --> 40:02.120] If you have an indictment that shows to be signed by the foreman, [40:02.120 --> 40:07.120] filed against the foreman, [40:07.120 --> 40:15.120] he's going to go apoplectic when he's charged with forging an indictment. [40:15.120 --> 40:19.120] And if he didn't forge that indictment or even if he did, [40:19.120 --> 40:25.120] he did it with the acting in concert and collusion with the prosecutor, [40:25.120 --> 40:31.120] he's going to claim good with faith, reliance on competent authority and feed you the prosecutor. [40:31.120 --> 40:33.120] Okay. [40:33.120 --> 40:40.120] One thing for you to go in and make an accusation against the prosecuting attorney. [40:40.120 --> 40:45.120] It's quite another for you to go in with an accusation by the foreman [40:45.120 --> 40:51.120] to the grand jury against the prosecuting attorney. [40:51.120 --> 40:54.120] A lot more politics involved in that one. [40:54.120 --> 40:55.120] Oh, really? [40:55.120 --> 40:59.120] Oh, a lot more. [40:59.120 --> 41:04.120] I wanted my prosecutor to take a complaint against a grand jury foreman [41:04.120 --> 41:07.120] because they refused to hear a complaint. [41:07.120 --> 41:13.120] And the prosecutor said, Oh, Mr. Kelton, please don't mess with my grand jury. [41:13.120 --> 41:18.120] They're hard enough to seat as it is. [41:18.120 --> 41:21.120] So this will create some serious issues. [41:21.120 --> 41:30.120] It's always better to file against the one who believes that he acted appropriately, [41:30.120 --> 41:33.120] that he followed directions, did what he was told. [41:33.120 --> 41:39.120] And now somebody is coming down trying to get him arrested for doing what he was told. [41:39.120 --> 41:45.120] That's going to engender righteous indignation. [41:45.120 --> 41:47.120] These folks are going to be really upset. [41:47.120 --> 41:52.120] And, you know, with this happening, they won't be able to see the grand jury [41:52.120 --> 41:58.120] if the grand jury members have to worry about politics. [41:58.120 --> 42:00.120] Everything's political. [42:00.120 --> 42:01.120] Okay. [42:01.120 --> 42:05.120] You want this prosecution to disappear? [42:05.120 --> 42:12.120] Give them good reason to make this want to go away. [42:12.120 --> 42:16.120] I was going to send you an email, or actually I did, [42:16.120 --> 42:20.120] and you were going to send me an example of a motion in Lemony. [42:20.120 --> 42:22.120] Oh, okay. [42:22.120 --> 42:26.120] We were going to do a recovery request. [42:26.120 --> 42:28.120] Let me write that down. [42:28.120 --> 42:34.120] Has the prosecutor indicated his intention to re-prosecute? [42:34.120 --> 42:36.120] No, he has not. [42:36.120 --> 42:40.120] And I've actually written, I've called and written an email, [42:40.120 --> 42:43.120] and I'm about to write a formal letter asking, [42:43.120 --> 42:47.120] well, last week you told me not to show my cards, [42:47.120 --> 42:49.120] so I didn't write a formal letter, [42:49.120 --> 42:54.120] but I emailed my appeals attorney, who's in a different city, [42:54.120 --> 42:56.120] and I just very nicely asked her, [42:56.120 --> 42:59.120] should I be expecting a notice of intent? [42:59.120 --> 43:05.120] And she hasn't written me back. [43:05.120 --> 43:09.120] But I filed four bar complaints against her, so she doesn't like me. [43:09.120 --> 43:13.120] Oh, that would seem like it'd get her to answer you. [43:13.120 --> 43:16.120] Have you bar grieved her for not communicating with you? [43:16.120 --> 43:17.120] No, but I'm about to. [43:17.120 --> 43:23.120] The Mississippi bar refuses to send me any more forms. [43:23.120 --> 43:30.120] Just, okay, I think Mississippi is the only state in the union [43:30.120 --> 43:35.120] that has you ask for a form and they have to send it to you. [43:35.120 --> 43:38.120] Yeah, an original form. [43:38.120 --> 43:40.120] I've got some. [43:40.120 --> 43:42.120] I'll have to dig in my record. [43:42.120 --> 43:46.120] But I have a blank, I'm pretty sure I can send you. [43:46.120 --> 43:53.120] Next time you get one, just scan it and copy it. [43:53.120 --> 43:55.120] Hang on, we're about to go to break. [43:55.120 --> 43:58.120] I'll call you at number 512-646-1984. [43:58.120 --> 44:02.120] We'll be right back. 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[46:35.120 --> 46:37.120] Somebody calls the police. [46:37.120 --> 46:56.120] ["Way to Go to the Law Firm"] [46:56.120 --> 46:58.120] Okay, we are back. [46:58.120 --> 47:00.120] We're into Kelton and Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, [47:00.120 --> 47:02.120] and we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi. [47:02.120 --> 47:11.120] Jeff, I suspect that when you filed your information request, [47:11.120 --> 47:18.120] the first thing whoever got it did was took it straight to the district attorney. [47:18.120 --> 47:20.120] All right. [47:20.120 --> 47:23.120] And asked them, they always take it to the prosecutor, [47:23.120 --> 47:25.120] and it's generally the district attorney, [47:25.120 --> 47:31.120] and asked them if they should give this out or not. [47:31.120 --> 47:37.120] So it's almost no doubt the prosecutor has got this. [47:37.120 --> 47:40.120] Did you say this is a new prosecutor? [47:40.120 --> 47:44.120] No, it's the same one for four years. [47:44.120 --> 47:45.120] Okay. [47:45.120 --> 47:49.120] So now he knows you're coming after the indictment. [47:49.120 --> 47:52.120] So if he tries to prosecute again, [47:52.120 --> 47:57.120] then he can expect the first thing you'll do is challenge the indictment. [47:57.120 --> 48:03.120] If, in fact, he has been playing fast and loose with the grand jury, [48:03.120 --> 48:08.120] he's probably pretty tense about now. [48:08.120 --> 48:16.120] And since he knows that he knows and you know who the witness was, [48:16.120 --> 48:21.120] the witness is not available and is not going to be available, [48:21.120 --> 48:25.120] he's got a lot of reasons not to re-prosecute. [48:25.120 --> 48:27.120] Got it. [48:27.120 --> 48:29.120] And the more pressure you put on, [48:29.120 --> 48:33.120] the more reasons he's going to have to not want to re-prosecute you, [48:33.120 --> 48:37.120] especially if you now come back and start filing criminal complaints [48:37.120 --> 48:39.120] against these officials. [48:39.120 --> 48:41.120] Okay. [48:41.120 --> 48:46.120] You know, using a criminal complaint on the open records issue, [48:46.120 --> 48:49.120] you know, they always expect you to argue with them. [48:49.120 --> 48:54.120] Call them up, where are you supposed to send that? Blah, blah, blah. [48:54.120 --> 48:58.120] Give me some song and dance and seltzer down your pants. [48:58.120 --> 49:03.120] They don't expect you to use the Tar Baby thing on them. [49:03.120 --> 49:07.120] Here's my little Tar Baby. You want to touch it? [49:07.120 --> 49:10.120] You send them a request. [49:10.120 --> 49:12.120] They don't respond within the time limit. [49:12.120 --> 49:15.120] You just file a criminal complaint. [49:15.120 --> 49:18.120] You don't call them. You don't negotiate with them. [49:18.120 --> 49:21.120] You don't try to convince them to do the job. [49:21.120 --> 49:24.120] You just file on them. [49:24.120 --> 49:27.120] Let them go explain it to the judge. [49:27.120 --> 49:29.120] And, you know, if they want to talk to you, [49:29.120 --> 49:34.120] what I do is once I've filed on them, I never ever talk to them. [49:34.120 --> 49:37.120] They call and want to talk to me, not going to happen. [49:37.120 --> 49:39.120] We had someone, you know, [49:39.120 --> 49:45.120] always be careful about talking to the police or any public officials [49:45.120 --> 49:49.120] because they will lie like dogs. [49:49.120 --> 49:52.120] We had someone here who's taken on the family courts, [49:52.120 --> 50:00.120] and there was a group of attorneys that had this county association, [50:00.120 --> 50:02.120] and they had a bank account, [50:02.120 --> 50:07.120] but they'd never filed a DBA on the name. [50:07.120 --> 50:10.120] So she filed a DBA on the name. [50:10.120 --> 50:14.120] These guys are really getting excited. [50:14.120 --> 50:18.120] And some investigators from the district attorney's office [50:18.120 --> 50:22.120] came out and talked to her, and she sent them packing. [50:22.120 --> 50:27.120] The FBI called her and wanted to interview her, [50:27.120 --> 50:32.120] and she called Ken, and Ken called me and asked what she should do, [50:32.120 --> 50:44.120] and I said, never ever go to the FBI office of your own volition, never. [50:44.120 --> 50:50.120] If they want to talk to you, Public Place must be recorded. [50:50.120 --> 50:53.120] She told them she would want to record it and said, oh, you can't do that. [50:53.120 --> 50:56.120] She said that it's not going to happen. [50:56.120 --> 51:02.120] All the questions they want to ask you, you want them in writing. [51:02.120 --> 51:08.120] If they're not going to put the questions in writing, don't talk to them. [51:08.120 --> 51:14.120] So really the point is, don't talk to them. [51:14.120 --> 51:22.120] Invoke their duty, and don't get in this back and forth with them. [51:22.120 --> 51:26.120] Don't let them try to reason with you. [51:26.120 --> 51:30.120] Give them the idea that everything you're doing is for the purpose [51:30.120 --> 51:35.120] of setting them up so you can file criminal charges against them. [51:35.120 --> 51:42.120] I had a friend get a job at the county tax assessor collector's office, [51:42.120 --> 51:47.120] and while they were doing the orientation, they got to the front desk [51:47.120 --> 51:51.120] and they tell him what to do, and they said, oh, there's just one thing. [51:51.120 --> 51:53.120] This Randy Kelton guy comes in here. [51:53.120 --> 51:57.120] He's always laughing and joking, but watch that SOB. [51:57.120 --> 52:01.120] He's just trying to get you to do something so he can call the police [52:01.120 --> 52:04.120] and try to get you arrested. [52:04.120 --> 52:05.120] That's right, I am. [52:05.120 --> 52:07.120] That's what George was thinking. [52:07.120 --> 52:11.120] He was trying not to chuckle because he knew me, [52:11.120 --> 52:14.120] and he's thinking, yeah, that's right. [52:14.120 --> 52:18.120] So don't screw with him. [52:18.120 --> 52:20.120] And that was right. [52:20.120 --> 52:24.120] I am the master, they are the servants, [52:24.120 --> 52:29.120] and I'm giving them opportunity to screw up so I can whack them good. [52:29.120 --> 52:32.120] It's like my grandkids. [52:32.120 --> 52:35.120] I'm not going to wait until they run out in the middle of the road [52:35.120 --> 52:40.120] and get run over to tell them they should stay out of the road. [52:40.120 --> 52:46.120] When they get close to the road, I'm going to tan their hides. [52:46.120 --> 52:48.120] That way I don't have the bigger problems. [52:48.120 --> 52:54.120] If all of us as the masters would treat our public officials [52:54.120 --> 53:01.120] with that kind of authority, we would not be having these problems. [53:01.120 --> 53:03.120] There was a question. [53:03.120 --> 53:05.120] Are you in Tennessee now? [53:05.120 --> 53:07.120] I'm in Arkansas. [53:07.120 --> 53:09.120] Oh, you're in Arkansas, okay. [53:09.120 --> 53:11.120] We had a caller from Tennessee. [53:11.120 --> 53:12.120] Mississippi. [53:12.120 --> 53:18.120] And apparently in Tennessee, the grand jury sits for the purpose [53:18.120 --> 53:21.120] of hearing complaints by private citizens. [53:21.120 --> 53:24.120] Have you checked into that in Mississippi? [53:24.120 --> 53:27.120] No, but that will be the first thing I do. [53:27.120 --> 53:34.120] And that would be, you know, that is probably the best check [53:34.120 --> 53:38.120] to the balance of abuse of power we can have. [53:38.120 --> 53:39.120] Okay. [53:39.120 --> 53:42.120] We have the grand jury sit for the purpose of hearing complaints [53:42.120 --> 53:47.120] by private citizens and hope they never hear one. [53:47.120 --> 53:49.120] They did that in Fort Worth when I first came down here, [53:49.120 --> 53:52.120] and because nobody showed up, they stopped doing it. [53:52.120 --> 53:58.120] Well, duh, that meant it was working. [53:58.120 --> 53:59.120] Okay. [53:59.120 --> 54:01.120] If the deterrent wasn't having the effect, [54:01.120 --> 54:03.120] that had a lot of people down there. [54:03.120 --> 54:06.120] So check to see if you have that available. [54:06.120 --> 54:09.120] That will be a wonderful tool. [54:09.120 --> 54:11.120] Okay, sure thing. [54:11.120 --> 54:14.120] Okay, I'll call you next week and keep you posted. [54:14.120 --> 54:16.120] Okay, and keep on their case. [54:16.120 --> 54:21.120] Give that prosecutor lots of reasons to not prosecute. [54:21.120 --> 54:24.120] You might want to send him a letter and ask him, [54:24.120 --> 54:26.120] when are you going to prosecute? [54:26.120 --> 54:31.120] Oh, have you filed a speedy trial demand? [54:31.120 --> 54:33.120] No, I have not. [54:33.120 --> 54:34.120] Get that filed. [54:34.120 --> 54:36.120] That's got to be done, okay. [54:36.120 --> 54:38.120] That's better than sending him a letter. [54:38.120 --> 54:40.120] You send him a demand for speedy trial. [54:40.120 --> 54:43.120] That's telling him the clock is ticking, bubba. [54:43.120 --> 54:44.120] Okay. [54:44.120 --> 54:48.120] And it is interesting. [54:48.120 --> 54:52.120] I'm not sure when the clock would start ticking. [54:52.120 --> 54:57.120] Well, the trial's in less than 90 days. [54:57.120 --> 54:58.120] Okay. [54:58.120 --> 55:01.120] Oh, they have 90 days to bring you to trial? [55:01.120 --> 55:05.120] Oh, no, I'm sorry. [55:05.120 --> 55:09.120] Originally, they have nine months from your indictment. [55:09.120 --> 55:11.120] That's all that I know. [55:11.120 --> 55:17.120] But I've received my notice for a trial about a month ago, [55:17.120 --> 55:19.120] and now it's down to 90 days. [55:19.120 --> 55:21.120] But it's just a letter from the clerk that says, [55:21.120 --> 55:25.120] you will show up on July the 28th. [55:25.120 --> 55:26.120] Oh, okay. [55:26.120 --> 55:28.120] Then you need to start getting in. [55:28.120 --> 55:32.120] Is that a notice for retry from the prosecutor? [55:32.120 --> 55:34.120] Apparently, yes. [55:34.120 --> 55:36.120] They've set a trial. [55:36.120 --> 55:37.120] It's signed by the judge, [55:37.120 --> 55:42.120] but it doesn't have the prosecutor's name on it. [55:42.120 --> 55:47.120] I'm not sure how it works in Mississippi. [55:47.120 --> 55:48.120] That may be standard, [55:48.120 --> 55:56.120] and the prosecutor can move to dismiss if he doesn't want to retry. [55:56.120 --> 55:59.120] So they may automatically set a date. [55:59.120 --> 56:04.120] So if it's down to three months, you need to get discovery in. [56:04.120 --> 56:05.120] Yes. [56:05.120 --> 56:10.120] Well, I don't have a public defender, and I've written a letter to the court [56:10.120 --> 56:14.120] saying I'm waiting for my public defender, and nobody's responded yet. [56:14.120 --> 56:16.120] Okay. [56:16.120 --> 56:23.120] I've got jurisprudences up, and I've got it off their list, [56:23.120 --> 56:29.120] so you don't get that warning anymore. [56:29.120 --> 56:30.120] You should look in there. [56:30.120 --> 56:32.120] You'll find a motion in limiting. [56:32.120 --> 56:34.120] Okay. [56:34.120 --> 56:37.120] I don't remember exactly where it's at, but if you look in, [56:37.120 --> 56:40.120] I think it'll be under motion practice. [56:40.120 --> 56:41.120] I'll have one in there, [56:41.120 --> 56:45.120] and look through the motions and things I have in there. [56:45.120 --> 56:49.120] You might want to go through, and you may find some interesting stuff. [56:49.120 --> 56:51.120] The big deal is discovery. [56:51.120 --> 56:54.120] First thing you want is a list of all witnesses. [56:54.120 --> 56:56.120] Okay. [56:56.120 --> 56:58.120] And then to be faced by your accuser. [56:58.120 --> 56:59.120] Yes. [56:59.120 --> 57:00.120] There's a whole bunch of stuff to do, [57:00.120 --> 57:05.120] but look through that and read the habeas corpus. [57:05.120 --> 57:06.120] Got it. [57:06.120 --> 57:12.120] It'll give you a lot of issues that you can raise to block the prosecution. [57:12.120 --> 57:16.120] Have you demanded court-appointed counsel? [57:16.120 --> 57:17.120] Yes, I have. [57:17.120 --> 57:22.120] Well, I've written a letter basically saying that I'm waiting to have my [57:22.120 --> 57:28.120] court-appointed counsel to get in touch with me, and no one's responded. [57:28.120 --> 57:29.120] Okay. [57:29.120 --> 57:31.120] That may be because they haven't appointed yet, [57:31.120 --> 57:35.120] and it may be because the prosecutor hasn't decided to prosecute, [57:35.120 --> 57:41.120] but you might want to get all of the due process stuff in you can. [57:41.120 --> 57:42.120] Okay. [57:42.120 --> 57:44.120] Before they appoint counsel. [57:44.120 --> 57:47.120] Now, counsel is stuck with your due process. [57:47.120 --> 57:50.120] Read that habeas corpus. [57:50.120 --> 57:51.120] Got it. [57:51.120 --> 57:53.120] That follows due process. [57:53.120 --> 57:55.120] See if they followed all due process. [57:55.120 --> 57:59.120] If they haven't, then make a list, get it to me, [57:59.120 --> 58:02.120] or we'll go through the habeas. [58:02.120 --> 58:06.120] It'll tell you what they haven't done and then move to dismiss on each one of them. [58:06.120 --> 58:07.120] Okay. [58:07.120 --> 58:08.120] I'll call you next week. [58:08.120 --> 58:09.120] Thank you. [58:09.120 --> 58:10.120] Okay. [58:10.120 --> 58:11.120] All right. [58:11.120 --> 58:12.120] Okay. [58:12.120 --> 58:13.120] Thank you. [58:13.120 --> 58:16.120] This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Ruva Radio. [58:16.120 --> 58:18.120] My page is kind of blanking out today. [58:18.120 --> 58:19.120] There we go. [58:19.120 --> 58:20.120] I got 30 seconds. 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[01:00:04.120 --> 01:00:06.120] You're listening to the Liberty Beat, [01:00:06.120 --> 01:00:09.120] your daily source for Liberty news and activist updates, [01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:15.120] online at thelibertybeat.com. [01:00:15.120 --> 01:00:20.120] This is Justin Armand with your Liberty Beat from May 8, 2014. [01:00:20.120 --> 01:00:24.120] Be sure to check out the website at thelibertybeat.com. [01:00:24.120 --> 01:00:33.120] Gold opens today at $1,289, silver at $19.23, and bitcoin is trading at $445. [01:00:33.120 --> 01:00:36.120] Support for the Liberty Beat comes from Accountable Authority, [01:00:36.120 --> 01:00:40.120] now offering a public database of police abuse and misconduct. [01:00:40.120 --> 01:00:42.120] Gain community support and protection. [01:00:42.120 --> 01:00:47.120] Take action now and join free today at accountablethority.com. 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[01:01:19.120 --> 01:01:21.120] I had been a professional investor, [01:01:21.120 --> 01:01:25.120] and when I finally really understood what the money game was all about, [01:01:25.120 --> 01:01:28.120] I just said, you know what, I don't want anything more to do with this. [01:01:28.120 --> 01:01:31.120] I just don't want to use my life energy in this way anymore, [01:01:31.120 --> 01:01:34.120] even though we had a fairly successful business. [01:01:34.120 --> 01:01:37.120] Marjorie's deep investigation into banking and the financial system [01:01:37.120 --> 01:01:42.120] allowed her to change her life before the 2008 financial crisis. [01:01:42.120 --> 01:01:45.120] She began growing, preparing, and preserving her own food and medicine [01:01:45.120 --> 01:01:47.120] for herself and her family. [01:01:47.120 --> 01:01:51.120] I said, you know, I really think this is ultimately going to lead to economic collapse. [01:01:51.120 --> 01:01:55.120] I said, hey, I want to get back to some basics and figure out how to grow my own food. [01:01:55.120 --> 01:01:59.120] That's probably the most important thing to me every day, three times a day. [01:01:59.120 --> 01:02:02.120] We had to really shift our lifestyles because we didn't have the income anymore. [01:02:02.120 --> 01:02:05.120] But really, I would not go back. [01:02:05.120 --> 01:02:10.120] Marjorie, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with our audience. [01:02:10.120 --> 01:02:16.120] On Tuesday evening, police officer Stephen Stem fatally shot a 93-year-old woman [01:02:16.120 --> 01:02:22.120] at her home in a town northwest of Bryan, Texas, with a population of less than 5,000. [01:02:22.120 --> 01:02:26.120] Officers reportedly responded to a 9-11 call about a woman with a gun, [01:02:26.120 --> 01:02:29.120] but details of the situation are unknown. [01:02:29.120 --> 01:02:33.120] Neighbors describe Pearlie Golden, the victim, as being a sweet woman. [01:02:33.120 --> 01:02:36.120] Multiple witnesses say Golden was shot at least five times. [01:02:36.120 --> 01:02:39.120] The officer involved has been put on administrative leave [01:02:39.120 --> 01:02:44.120] while the Texas Rangers and the Robertson County District Attorney's Office investigate. [01:02:44.120 --> 01:02:47.120] Support for the Liberty Beat comes from affordable sound, [01:02:47.120 --> 01:02:52.120] CD and DVD duplication for all your print and audio duplication needs. [01:02:52.120 --> 01:02:55.120] This is Justin Armand reporting with the Liberty Beat. [01:02:55.120 --> 01:03:23.120] Remember, freeing your mind is freeing our world. [01:03:23.120 --> 01:03:36.120] Okay, we are back. [01:03:36.120 --> 01:03:40.120] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. [01:03:40.120 --> 01:03:45.120] And the call lines are open, 512-646-1984. [01:03:45.120 --> 01:03:49.120] So give us a call. [01:03:49.120 --> 01:03:56.120] The other thing I wanted to talk about tonight was some new legislation that we're working on. [01:03:56.120 --> 01:04:02.120] We've been doing quite a bit of lobbying lately. [01:04:02.120 --> 01:04:06.120] And, you know, I've been doing this show for a number of years. [01:04:06.120 --> 01:04:15.120] And in all that time, we keep looking for ways to change the system. [01:04:15.120 --> 01:04:22.120] Looking for the smallest change we can make that will have the greatest effect. [01:04:22.120 --> 01:04:30.120] And in looking at the changes in law that have occurred, [01:04:30.120 --> 01:04:36.120] pretty well we put our finger on what appears to have caused this problem. [01:04:36.120 --> 01:04:46.120] In 1965, a police officer could arrest someone for an on-site offense [01:04:46.120 --> 01:04:52.120] that was a breach of the peace or a felony. [01:04:52.120 --> 01:04:56.120] And breaches of the peace are very clearly defined. [01:04:56.120 --> 01:05:03.120] Just, he couldn't arrest you just for anything, but only breaches of the peace and felonies. [01:05:03.120 --> 01:05:11.120] In 1965, the legislature changed the law where they added a paragraph [01:05:11.120 --> 01:05:19.120] that said an officer could arrest for any on-site offense. [01:05:19.120 --> 01:05:31.120] And that started a change in the way officers seemed to view their positions. [01:05:31.120 --> 01:05:37.120] Now they could arrest you for anything. [01:05:37.120 --> 01:05:43.120] I mean, you listen to this show, people get arrested because the officer said [01:05:43.120 --> 01:05:49.120] you were weaving and at one point your tires touched a yellow line. [01:05:49.120 --> 01:05:51.120] They can arrest you for that. [01:05:51.120 --> 01:05:57.120] If you drop a piece of paper on the street, they can arrest you for that. [01:05:57.120 --> 01:06:02.120] They can arrest you for anything. [01:06:02.120 --> 01:06:08.120] Valid, invalid makes no difference. [01:06:08.120 --> 01:06:15.120] Now at this point, average conviction rate, which we've talked about before, [01:06:15.120 --> 01:06:20.120] in the United States or at least in Texas and most everywhere else I've been [01:06:20.120 --> 01:06:26.120] it's been the same, is 99.6. [01:06:26.120 --> 01:06:32.120] Would you recognize a police state if you were in one? [01:06:32.120 --> 01:06:41.120] Everybody who's accused of crime in Texas statistically is going to take a deal. [01:06:41.120 --> 01:06:51.120] There are a very, very few that don't take the deal and get acquitted. [01:06:51.120 --> 01:07:01.120] Four out of a hundred, no, four out of a thousand, those are not good ads. [01:07:01.120 --> 01:07:06.120] And primary reason is a couple of changes in law. [01:07:06.120 --> 01:07:08.120] That is the primary one. [01:07:08.120 --> 01:07:14.120] When you read it, you hardly even notice it's in there. [01:07:14.120 --> 01:07:20.120] It takes really studying the law to understand that. [01:07:20.120 --> 01:07:23.120] 14.01 Code of Criminal Procedure. [01:07:23.120 --> 01:07:29.120] Now 14.03 addresses the same issue. [01:07:29.120 --> 01:07:39.120] And 14.01b actually negates 14.03. [01:07:39.120 --> 01:07:44.120] I probably shouldn't have talked about this up in front of me so I could read them. [01:07:44.120 --> 01:07:50.120] We're trying to get 14.01b removed from the record. [01:07:50.120 --> 01:08:02.120] And then the one that I really want to see passed is we require that when we add to [01:08:02.120 --> 01:08:09.120] the Code of Criminal Procedure in Section 20, which defines the duties of grand jurors, [01:08:09.120 --> 01:08:19.120] we add to the Code of Criminal Procedure a requirement or a provision that when a [01:08:19.120 --> 01:08:28.120] complaint is made against a public official, that the complaint be made directly [01:08:28.120 --> 01:08:34.120] with a grand jury, that it doesn't go to the police department, it doesn't go to [01:08:34.120 --> 01:08:40.120] the prosecuting attorney, it goes straight to the grand jury. [01:08:40.120 --> 01:08:48.120] This will eliminate this problem of the prosecutor shielding you from access to the [01:08:48.120 --> 01:08:49.120] grand jury. [01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:54.120] I just went to the district attorney's office in Dallas County with a stack of [01:08:54.120 --> 01:09:02.120] criminal complaints against a judge, aggravated assault, first degree felony [01:09:02.120 --> 01:09:07.120] aggravated assault, facial oppression, a whole stack of things. [01:09:07.120 --> 01:09:14.120] And the prosecutors refused to talk to me. [01:09:14.120 --> 01:09:19.120] They sent out these guys with pistols, actually a woman with pistols, and they [01:09:19.120 --> 01:09:25.120] absolutely refused to hear a complaint against a public official. [01:09:25.120 --> 01:09:31.120] So I put in a request to the Dallas County District Attorney's Office for copies of [01:09:31.120 --> 01:09:36.120] all complaints filed with the department against public officials. [01:09:36.120 --> 01:09:43.120] They sent me back a response saying, we have no records responsive to your [01:09:43.120 --> 01:09:46.120] request. [01:09:46.120 --> 01:09:53.120] They claimed in writing that nobody has ever filed a complaint against a public [01:09:53.120 --> 01:09:55.120] official with the district attorney's office. [01:09:55.120 --> 01:09:58.120] Well, I believe that. [01:09:58.120 --> 01:10:03.120] I believe that because they simply refuse to allow you to. [01:10:03.120 --> 01:10:07.120] And then if you try to go to the grand jury, they'll block you there. [01:10:07.120 --> 01:10:11.120] It's going to be a big fight, and it's a fight I'm going to have with them. [01:10:11.120 --> 01:10:15.120] But it would be much simpler if we simply had a statute that said that all [01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:20.120] complaints against public officials go directly to the grand jury. [01:10:20.120 --> 01:10:27.120] So if anybody has any comment on that, send me an email, randyatroubloradio.com. [01:10:27.120 --> 01:10:30.120] I'd like to hear your comments. [01:10:30.120 --> 01:10:39.120] If anybody out there is concerned with the way they're treated by their police [01:10:39.120 --> 01:10:44.120] or if you've been prosecuted and you feel like you've been prosecuted improperly, [01:10:44.120 --> 01:10:53.120] if you don't do something, if you don't stand up and raise an issue, they're [01:10:53.120 --> 01:10:56.120] going to keep doing what they're doing. [01:10:56.120 --> 01:11:02.120] And we do this show to try to give people tools that they can use. [01:11:02.120 --> 01:11:07.120] And frankly, it's very reassuring when I get people calling me from all over [01:11:07.120 --> 01:11:20.120] the country that are actually doing things to hold public officials to task. [01:11:20.120 --> 01:11:27.120] And if we could get just one or two people in every county doing this, [01:11:27.120 --> 01:11:31.120] we will change everything. [01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:34.120] And while I've been talking, I've been looking through my email. [01:11:34.120 --> 01:11:37.120] There's a special email I was looking for. [01:11:37.120 --> 01:11:51.120] Someone sent me an email that went into statistics about the legal drugs, [01:11:51.120 --> 01:11:54.120] about essentially our drug war. [01:11:54.120 --> 01:11:58.120] And I can't find it now, but I remember, mostly remember the statistics. [01:11:58.120 --> 01:12:03.120] I was really astounded at what I found. [01:12:03.120 --> 01:12:12.120] The number of people who die every year in the United States due to overdoses [01:12:12.120 --> 01:12:23.120] from illegal drugs, 17,000, 17,000 die every year from accidental overdoses [01:12:23.120 --> 01:12:26.120] of illegal drugs. [01:12:26.120 --> 01:12:38.120] Ninety-something thousand die from drug interactions, from prescription drugs. [01:12:38.120 --> 01:12:44.120] Essentially, doctors kill them or they give them these drugs that they kill [01:12:44.120 --> 01:12:46.120] themselves with by accident. [01:12:46.120 --> 01:12:50.120] In fact, Neil Armstrong was one of them. [01:12:50.120 --> 01:12:54.120] He died from a drug interaction. [01:12:54.120 --> 01:13:00.120] Seventy-something, I'm sorry, ninety-something thousand. [01:13:00.120 --> 01:13:08.120] Alcohol, alcohol-related deaths were 88,000. [01:13:08.120 --> 01:13:15.120] Cigarettes, 500,000. [01:13:15.120 --> 01:13:17.120] I was absolutely astounded. [01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:26.120] We have this war on drugs that's filling our jails, using up all our tax dollars. [01:13:26.120 --> 01:13:32.120] It costs us like 30,000 a year to keep someone in jail. [01:13:32.120 --> 01:13:42.120] And we still have 17,000 people dying from accidental drug overdoses. [01:13:42.120 --> 01:13:47.120] We have 90,000 dying from prescription drugs. [01:13:47.120 --> 01:13:52.120] So it looks like those using illegal drugs, and one of the statistics was [01:13:52.120 --> 01:13:58.120] that statistically, 90% of the population at one time or another are using illegal [01:13:58.120 --> 01:14:00.120] drugs. [01:14:00.120 --> 01:14:06.120] So with 90% at one time or another and 17,000 a year dying of accidental overdoses, [01:14:06.120 --> 01:14:13.120] almost all of those are heavy addicted drug users. [01:14:13.120 --> 01:14:20.120] And alcohol kills four times as many. [01:14:20.120 --> 01:14:27.120] And cigarettes is, I don't know what to do about cigarettes, but that's a half a [01:14:27.120 --> 01:14:28.120] million. [01:14:28.120 --> 01:14:30.120] It seems like we should have an incredible war against cigarettes. [01:14:30.120 --> 01:14:36.120] It's a kill and a half million people a year. [01:14:36.120 --> 01:14:37.120] But I don't do drugs. [01:14:37.120 --> 01:14:39.120] I've never done drugs. [01:14:39.120 --> 01:14:42.120] And I tend to be relatively conservative. [01:14:42.120 --> 01:14:46.120] I don't have much patience with that. [01:14:46.120 --> 01:14:54.120] With that said, drugs should not be illegal the way they are. [01:14:54.120 --> 01:14:58.120] It's like prostitution. [01:14:58.120 --> 01:15:05.120] Humanity as a whole has struggled against prostitution since we had civilized [01:15:05.120 --> 01:15:08.120] societies. [01:15:08.120 --> 01:15:13.120] We never ever have been able to stop it. [01:15:13.120 --> 01:15:16.120] We're not going to be able to stop it. [01:15:16.120 --> 01:15:22.120] It would seem like at some point we would figure this out and try something [01:15:22.120 --> 01:15:24.120] different. [01:15:24.120 --> 01:15:29.120] But with all of the money we're spending on the war against drugs, all we've [01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:35.120] managed to do is make the CIA the primary drug dealer in the country. 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[01:19:31.120 --> 01:19:36.120] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again [01:19:36.120 --> 01:19:41.120] I was blindsided but now I can see your plan [01:19:41.120 --> 01:19:46.120] You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand [01:19:46.120 --> 01:19:51.120] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again [01:19:51.120 --> 01:19:56.120] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick [01:20:21.120 --> 01:20:26.120] I just did a show Monday night with Pastor Massett [01:20:26.120 --> 01:20:31.120] I went through this and there [01:20:31.120 --> 01:20:36.120] One of the things about doing a radio show like this [01:20:36.120 --> 01:20:41.120] I'm talking to air, I can't see my listeners [01:20:41.120 --> 01:20:46.120] So in trying to formulate and present ideas [01:20:46.120 --> 01:20:51.120] It's a lot easier than what you'd use when you're looking someone in the eye [01:20:51.120 --> 01:20:56.120] Talking to them because you can kind of gauge their responses [01:20:56.120 --> 01:21:01.120] Or if you're before a crowd, it's a lot easier when you've got a bunch of people that you can work from [01:21:01.120 --> 01:21:06.120] When you're doing it here, it's a little more difficult [01:21:06.120 --> 01:21:11.120] But it's also a good exercise [01:21:11.120 --> 01:21:16.120] It's called a therapeutic metaphor [01:21:16.120 --> 01:21:21.120] A different way of holding your mind when you think about and deal with public officials [01:21:21.120 --> 01:21:26.120] Part of it I was just talking to Jeff about [01:21:26.120 --> 01:21:31.120] The Tar Baby. The Tar Baby is part of a metaphor [01:21:31.120 --> 01:21:36.120] It's part of a different way of holding your mind [01:21:36.120 --> 01:21:41.120] I know the first thing I tell people about the courts [01:21:41.120 --> 01:21:46.120] We go to high school and a grade school in high school [01:21:46.120 --> 01:21:51.120] In Texas we have the education reform bill pushed through by Ross Perot, House Bill 72 [01:21:51.120 --> 01:21:56.120] And when it was [01:21:56.120 --> 01:22:01.120] Lobbied, they primarily stressed the fact that it forbade social [01:22:01.120 --> 01:22:06.120] Promotions [01:22:06.120 --> 01:22:11.120] That's the one everybody heard about [01:22:11.120 --> 01:22:16.120] The one nobody ever heard about was the first part of the act [01:22:16.120 --> 01:22:21.120] And it said that the school shall instill in the child a deep and abiding faith in [01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:26.120] And respect for the American former government [01:22:26.120 --> 01:22:31.120] Five or six years old [01:22:31.120 --> 01:22:36.120] We're drilled with what a great and wonderful country this is [01:22:36.120 --> 01:22:41.120] And all these rights we have as opposed to other countries that don't have the rights that we do [01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:46.120] However, at the same time [01:22:46.120 --> 01:22:51.120] It is made very clear to us, while you're in this school [01:22:51.120 --> 01:22:56.120] You're trying to express one of those rights [01:22:56.120 --> 01:23:01.120] You put people through 12 years of that kind of hypocrisy [01:23:01.120 --> 01:23:06.120] And then they get out in the real world and all of a sudden we expect them to become [01:23:06.120 --> 01:23:11.120] Empowered citizens [01:23:11.120 --> 01:23:16.120] Citizens in a republic [01:23:16.120 --> 01:23:21.120] Citizens without subjects [01:23:21.120 --> 01:23:26.120] Masters of their servants [01:23:26.120 --> 01:23:31.120] And then we're surprised when it doesn't happen [01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:36.120] And the reason being is people tend to develop [01:23:36.120 --> 01:23:41.120] Response sets [01:23:41.120 --> 01:23:46.120] We put that away, we give that to another part of the mind [01:23:46.120 --> 01:23:51.120] A part of the mind I call our internal librarian for want of a better term [01:23:51.120 --> 01:23:56.120] It's not subliminal [01:23:56.120 --> 01:24:01.120] It's not subconscious [01:24:01.120 --> 01:24:06.120] It's just an aspect of mind we don't pay direct attention to [01:24:06.120 --> 01:24:11.120] Once in a really bad accident [01:24:11.120 --> 01:24:16.120] And I had to learn to walk again [01:24:16.120 --> 01:24:21.120] I was really surprised at how complex that was [01:24:21.120 --> 01:24:26.120] It took 5 years before I could walk [01:24:26.120 --> 01:24:31.120] Straight and not look like Walter Brennan [01:24:31.120 --> 01:24:36.120] It took 5 years to really learn how to walk again [01:24:36.120 --> 01:24:41.120] It is really, really complex [01:24:41.120 --> 01:24:46.120] Now I was older so I didn't learn as fast as babies do [01:24:46.120 --> 01:24:51.120] But when a child starts to learn to walk, he first learns how to raise himself [01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:56.120] He learns how to crawl and then crawling [01:24:56.120 --> 01:25:01.120] And as he learns something he puts it away [01:25:01.120 --> 01:25:06.120] He gives it to this other part of the mind that when he needs that [01:25:06.120 --> 01:25:11.120] Routine he can run it out of awareness [01:25:11.120 --> 01:25:16.120] And we learn one part and then we learn another part and add to it and another part and add to it [01:25:16.120 --> 01:25:21.120] As we learn more and more we have to pay attention to less and less [01:25:21.120 --> 01:25:26.120] You don't have to carry a lot of books [01:25:26.120 --> 01:25:31.120] Have a conversation with someone else [01:25:31.120 --> 01:25:36.120] Do all of this all at one time and not pay attention to any of it [01:25:36.120 --> 01:25:41.120] Unless somebody put a quarter of an inch sheet of plywood on one of the steps [01:25:41.120 --> 01:25:46.120] When you lift your foot and it hits that next step [01:25:46.120 --> 01:25:51.120] Instantly it's got your attention [01:25:51.120 --> 01:25:56.120] You look down, you decide it's not a problem and you go back [01:25:56.120 --> 01:26:01.120] You give that behavioral set to that other aspect of mind that runs it out of direct awareness [01:26:01.120 --> 01:26:06.120] That's really, really important [01:26:06.120 --> 01:26:11.120] Think about it, first time you got a ticket you decided to fight [01:26:11.120 --> 01:26:16.120] You listen to our show [01:26:16.120 --> 01:26:21.120] You read books and articles on the subject [01:26:21.120 --> 01:26:26.120] You put together all your documentation, you get all prepared and you're ready to go down there and let them have it [01:26:26.120 --> 01:26:31.120] You walk into the courtroom and when they call your name [01:26:31.120 --> 01:26:36.120] You feel this empty place in the pit of your stomach [01:26:36.120 --> 01:26:41.120] You feel like [01:26:41.120 --> 01:26:46.120] You're going to start sweating, you get this oppressive [01:26:46.120 --> 01:26:51.120] Feeling about you [01:26:51.120 --> 01:26:56.120] I went with someone else who had a ticket, I didn't, so I didn't have a doggonaut [01:26:56.120 --> 01:27:01.120] And out in the hall we talked to all these people, oh they're going to go in there and they're going to give them one floor [01:27:01.120 --> 01:27:06.120] Fire and blah blah blah [01:27:06.120 --> 01:27:11.120] We go in there, the first guy they call up is a really well dressed older individual [01:27:11.120 --> 01:27:16.120] Well, he would be my age now [01:27:16.120 --> 01:27:21.120] But very well presented [01:27:21.120 --> 01:27:26.120] Called him up, he was talking to the judge and his hands were visibly shaking [01:27:26.120 --> 01:27:31.120] And I thought, what in the world is going on [01:27:31.120 --> 01:27:36.120] This guy had the look of a CEO, of a high level executive [01:27:36.120 --> 01:27:41.120] Someone who was very well spoken [01:27:41.120 --> 01:27:46.120] He looks like a little kid [01:27:46.120 --> 01:27:51.120] And it finally occurred to me that's exactly what was going on [01:27:51.120 --> 01:27:56.120] He's called before the principal, if you went to Catholic school the nuns would whack his fingers [01:27:56.120 --> 01:28:01.120] He was terrified of authority, they'd go out of their way to have you terrified of authority [01:28:01.120 --> 01:28:06.120] They feel like that's the only way they can keep you under control [01:28:06.120 --> 01:28:11.120] Then he got out of school and he didn't have any more interactions with these people until he gets his ticket [01:28:11.120 --> 01:28:16.120] And he comes down into court and we stepped up in front of the judge [01:28:16.120 --> 01:28:21.120] His inner mind, his librarian looked around for a response set [01:28:21.120 --> 01:28:26.120] The only thing he had for dealing with public officials was school [01:28:26.120 --> 01:28:31.120] So he drew up the response that he used in school [01:28:31.120 --> 01:28:36.120] And for the most part when we do that we draw it being called before the principal [01:28:36.120 --> 01:28:41.120] And my suggestion is [01:28:41.120 --> 01:28:46.120] What in psychology they call a reframe [01:28:46.120 --> 01:28:51.120] We reframe the context from a child being called up before the principal [01:28:51.120 --> 01:28:56.120] To a parent going to the principal [01:28:56.120 --> 01:29:01.120] And want to know what in the heck have you been doing to my child [01:29:01.120 --> 01:29:06.120] When you change the perspective [01:29:06.120 --> 01:29:11.120] From one of being called before a principal [01:29:11.120 --> 01:29:16.120] And to actually going before the principal [01:29:16.120 --> 01:29:21.120] To protect one of your children [01:29:21.120 --> 01:29:26.120] Your response set dramatically changes [01:29:26.120 --> 01:29:31.120] Now you get into the response set you really should be in [01:29:31.120 --> 01:29:36.120] You are the master, they are the servants [01:29:36.120 --> 01:29:41.120] You were there to ensure that they do their job the way they are supposed to [01:29:41.120 --> 01:29:46.120] Hang on, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens [01:29:46.120 --> 01:29:51.120] We do have a call in Arizona [01:29:51.120 --> 01:29:56.120] We will pick you up on the other side, give us a call [01:29:56.120 --> 01:30:01.120] We will be right back [01:30:01.120 --> 01:30:06.120] GPS is supposed to help drivers get from point A to point B [01:30:06.120 --> 01:30:11.120] But in Australia it led a trio of Japanese tourists on a voyage into the sea [01:30:11.120 --> 01:30:16.120] I'm Dr. Cameron Albrecht, back to tell you about a navigational disaster next [01:30:16.120 --> 01:30:21.120] Privacy is under attack [01:30:21.120 --> 01:30:26.120] You will 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[01:33:49.120 --> 01:33:55.120] Yes sir, but your phone is, somebody's phone is really breaking up here [01:33:55.120 --> 01:34:02.120] Yes sir, I have a question about county ordinances [01:34:02.120 --> 01:34:06.120] Somewhere along the line, I don't know if it's been you or Eddie Craig [01:34:06.120 --> 01:34:12.120] had mentioned one time that ordinances are truly law [01:34:12.120 --> 01:34:16.120] And how do I go about dissecting one? [01:34:16.120 --> 01:34:20.120] Okay, ordinances are essentially contracts [01:34:20.120 --> 01:34:26.120] Okay, you're in Arizona, so I can't speak to Arizona Constitution [01:34:26.120 --> 01:34:33.120] But the federal constitution and every constitution I've looked at, including Texas [01:34:33.120 --> 01:34:38.120] authorizes the legislature to pass law [01:34:38.120 --> 01:34:48.120] They did not authorize a county commissioner's court to pass law [01:34:48.120 --> 01:34:52.120] They did not authorize municipal courts to pass law [01:34:52.120 --> 01:34:58.120] The constitution authorizes the legislature to pass law [01:34:58.120 --> 01:35:03.120] And they gave the legislature and the constitution [01:35:03.120 --> 01:35:09.120] gave the legislature no authority to delegate that power [01:35:09.120 --> 01:35:17.120] So the first question is, where does a county get authority to pass law? [01:35:17.120 --> 01:35:26.120] It's not in my constitution, and there's no authority to delegate that to these entities [01:35:26.120 --> 01:35:28.120] How do they get this entity? [01:35:28.120 --> 01:35:33.120] The only way they can have it is under contract [01:35:33.120 --> 01:35:37.120] And that's essentially Eddie's argument [01:35:37.120 --> 01:35:41.120] I'm not quite as articulate on that as he is [01:35:41.120 --> 01:35:48.120] But essentially it says, since nobody else is authorized to pass law [01:35:48.120 --> 01:35:53.120] You can pass all your corporate rules you want to [01:35:53.120 --> 01:35:57.120] But how do you bring me within the corporation? [01:35:57.120 --> 01:36:05.120] And what Eddie argues is that municipal laws and county ordinances are all contract [01:36:05.120 --> 01:36:19.120] And they only apply to county employees or people who have agreed to be governed by those regulations [01:36:19.120 --> 01:36:22.120] Ordinances, whatever you want to call them [01:36:22.120 --> 01:36:28.120] But they fall under the corporate umbrella of the county or the corporate umbrella of the municipality [01:36:28.120 --> 01:36:40.120] So, in what ways are you engaged with the county such that you [01:36:40.120 --> 01:36:49.120] entered into a contract with them wherein you agreed to follow their rules? [01:36:49.120 --> 01:36:56.120] I actually don't know. Let me give you a little overview of the situation [01:36:56.120 --> 01:37:00.120] Last summer we ran into a problem with the county [01:37:00.120 --> 01:37:07.120] They did a fire ban because we're near the area where all those firefighters were killed [01:37:07.120 --> 01:37:16.120] They sent the sheriff's office after me because we were using chainsaws during a fire ban [01:37:16.120 --> 01:37:22.120] And they would arrest me and cite me and all these wonderful things [01:37:22.120 --> 01:37:27.120] Okay, first thing you, well before you get to the statute [01:37:27.120 --> 01:37:35.120] Where in law is the county authorized to issue a fire ban? [01:37:35.120 --> 01:37:41.120] The reason I'm saying that, here in Texas they issue fire bans all the time [01:37:41.120 --> 01:37:48.120] But there is no authority to issue a fire ban [01:37:48.120 --> 01:37:51.120] None, zero, kaput [01:37:51.120 --> 01:37:55.120] But they'll write you a ticket accusing you of that [01:37:55.120 --> 01:38:01.120] And take you to court and prosecute you for it even though there's no authority to do it [01:38:01.120 --> 01:38:05.120] Always the first question [01:38:05.120 --> 01:38:08.120] Where do you get the authority? [01:38:08.120 --> 01:38:14.120] Okay, you're familiar with coming to the court at arms length? [01:38:14.120 --> 01:38:16.120] No, I'm not [01:38:16.120 --> 01:38:21.120] Okay, challenge to subject matter jurisdiction [01:38:21.120 --> 01:38:28.120] First thing you should always do is challenge the subject matter jurisdiction of the tribunal [01:38:28.120 --> 01:38:32.120] Where do you get this power? [01:38:32.120 --> 01:38:45.120] And first they have to establish that the tribunal has general jurisdiction over the subject matter [01:38:45.120 --> 01:38:57.120] And then they have to establish that the rules and regulations are actually authorized by law [01:38:57.120 --> 01:39:06.120] Because if it's unconstitutional then it's void ab initio from the beginnings like it never happened [01:39:06.120 --> 01:39:15.120] The tribunal does not have authority to enforce any legal statute [01:39:15.120 --> 01:39:19.120] Or rule or ordinance or whatever it is [01:39:19.120 --> 01:39:29.120] So first thing to look is where do they get specific authority to pass a fire ban? [01:39:29.120 --> 01:39:32.120] Have you looked at that? [01:39:32.120 --> 01:39:37.120] I've been looking but I haven't found anything real solid [01:39:37.120 --> 01:39:45.120] There is a state statute in reference to fire bans but it says it only applies to public property [01:39:45.120 --> 01:39:52.120] Then that is probably going to be the limit of their authority [01:39:52.120 --> 01:40:01.120] The county is not, it goes to the corporate nature of the ban [01:40:01.120 --> 01:40:11.120] You're not in a contract with them and if it's not a penal code or a legislative statute [01:40:11.120 --> 01:40:19.120] Then it's like a corporate rule and you have to fall within the authority of the corporation [01:40:19.120 --> 01:40:27.120] So first place to do is challenge subject matter jurisdiction, see where they get this specific authority [01:40:27.120 --> 01:40:34.120] And even when they show the authority then you want to see, they're going to show you they have a statute [01:40:34.120 --> 01:40:41.120] They may have an ordinance authorizing them to issue a ban, okay [01:40:41.120 --> 01:40:53.120] Where do you get authority to enforce that ordinance for anyone other than a county employee or on county property? [01:40:53.120 --> 01:41:00.120] It kind of goes to the adage of stipulate to nothing [01:41:00.120 --> 01:41:11.120] It's easy to say never stipulate to anything but it's a lot harder to do because we presume so much [01:41:11.120 --> 01:41:15.120] We presume without even thinking about it [01:41:15.120 --> 01:41:19.120] So try to take them apart piece by piece [01:41:19.120 --> 01:41:21.120] Okay [01:41:21.120 --> 01:41:36.120] First you want to know where does the county get authority to pass ordinances that affect my liberty [01:41:36.120 --> 01:41:47.120] And specifically where do they get it because you may find it in your Arizona constitution but I doubt it [01:41:47.120 --> 01:41:51.120] Do you live out in the country or in town? [01:41:51.120 --> 01:41:56.120] No, I live way out in the country [01:41:56.120 --> 01:42:02.120] It's the land patent [01:42:02.120 --> 01:42:03.120] What's that? [01:42:03.120 --> 01:42:07.120] Bringing forward the land patent [01:42:07.120 --> 01:42:12.120] I'm researching that right now [01:42:12.120 --> 01:42:19.120] The way the land patent works is it takes you out of the authority of the state for the most part [01:42:19.120 --> 01:42:26.120] As long as you have a title on the property, the state has a claim against the property [01:42:26.120 --> 01:42:34.120] You bring forward the land patent, the state has no claim and with no claim they have no authority [01:42:34.120 --> 01:42:39.120] Now I've had a lot of people want to try to do this to get out of paying property taxes [01:42:39.120 --> 01:42:43.120] But property taxes are a contract [01:42:43.120 --> 01:42:49.120] If you don't pay property taxes then you don't have a right to police protection [01:42:49.120 --> 01:42:53.120] You don't have a right to fire protection, you don't have a right to any utilities [01:42:53.120 --> 01:42:57.120] You don't have a right to use the schools [01:42:57.120 --> 01:43:00.120] It's generally a good idea to pay property taxes anyway [01:43:00.120 --> 01:43:05.120] But you can pay those even if you bring the land patent forward [01:43:05.120 --> 01:43:10.120] But that takes you out of their control [01:43:10.120 --> 01:43:12.120] I live in a small town here [01:43:12.120 --> 01:43:16.120] And pretty well, I live next to City Hall [01:43:16.120 --> 01:43:20.120] And the word over at City Hall is leave that no good SOB alone [01:43:20.120 --> 01:43:22.120] He's nothing but a pain in the neck [01:43:22.120 --> 01:43:24.120] So they never bother me [01:43:24.120 --> 01:43:31.120] But if they did, first thing I'd do is go down to Austin and bring forward a land patent [01:43:31.120 --> 01:43:37.120] And then the strategies we talk about on this show [01:43:37.120 --> 01:43:43.120] The thing I was going to go to next was about how you approach these guys [01:43:43.120 --> 01:43:46.120] You are the master, they are the servants [01:43:46.120 --> 01:43:54.120] And when a servant attempts to express authority over the master [01:43:54.120 --> 01:43:57.120] He needs to be really careful, I'll explain why when we come back [01:43:57.120 --> 01:44:04.120] You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics? 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[01:45:52.120 --> 01:46:01.120] Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner or call toll-free, 866-LAW-EZ [01:46:23.120 --> 01:46:27.120] Some things in this world I will never understand [01:46:27.120 --> 01:46:31.120] Some things I realize fully [01:46:31.120 --> 01:46:36.120] Somebody's gonna police that policeman [01:46:36.120 --> 01:46:40.120] Somebody's gonna police the police [01:46:40.120 --> 01:46:44.120] There's always a room at the top of the hill [01:46:44.120 --> 01:46:49.120] Here through the grapevine and it's lonely there too [01:46:49.120 --> 01:46:53.120] They're wishing it was more than opposition that fails [01:46:53.120 --> 01:46:57.120] They know that if they don't do it, somebody will [01:46:57.120 --> 01:47:01.120] Some things in this world I will never understand [01:47:01.120 --> 01:47:05.120] Some things I realize fully [01:47:05.120 --> 01:47:10.120] Somebody's gonna police that policeman [01:47:10.120 --> 01:47:14.120] Somebody's gonna police the police [01:47:14.120 --> 01:47:16.120] I know they will [01:47:16.120 --> 01:47:19.120] Yeah, they're gonna put the bill [01:47:19.120 --> 01:47:23.120] Cause I don't see so much in God's hand [01:47:23.120 --> 01:47:24.120] I know they will [01:47:24.120 --> 01:47:27.120] I'll never fail to tip back that scale [01:47:27.120 --> 01:47:28.120] I know they will [01:47:28.120 --> 01:47:30.120] I'll never fail to tip back that scale [01:47:30.120 --> 01:47:34.120] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Rule of Law Radio [01:47:34.120 --> 01:47:37.120] And Deb and I had a little discussion on land patents [01:47:37.120 --> 01:47:41.120] There's a whole lot to land patents and I kind of glossed over it [01:47:41.120 --> 01:47:44.120] But before you do a land patent, you need to look at it [01:47:44.120 --> 01:47:45.120] There's a whole lot to it [01:47:45.120 --> 01:47:47.120] And I would pay the taxes anyway [01:47:47.120 --> 01:47:49.120] That wouldn't be my reason [01:47:49.120 --> 01:47:52.120] The only reason I'd bring a land patent forward [01:47:52.120 --> 01:47:58.120] Is to demonstrate that I'm not under contract with the city or the county [01:47:58.120 --> 01:48:01.120] That if you want to contract with me, you'll have to do it separately [01:48:01.120 --> 01:48:03.120] Because I'm not under title [01:48:03.120 --> 01:48:06.120] So I'm not presumed to be under contract [01:48:06.120 --> 01:48:09.120] But kind of a different issue [01:48:09.120 --> 01:48:12.120] What I really did want to talk about [01:48:12.120 --> 01:48:16.120] Is how you think about your public officials [01:48:16.120 --> 01:48:19.120] They are your servants [01:48:19.120 --> 01:48:26.120] And if a sheriff comes out, especially if he's got a pistol on [01:48:26.120 --> 01:48:29.120] You know, I'm a combat veteran [01:48:29.120 --> 01:48:34.120] And I take loaded pistols really, really serious [01:48:34.120 --> 01:48:37.120] Anybody who's spent time on the sharp end of those [01:48:37.120 --> 01:48:40.120] You get a whole different perspective on those things [01:48:40.120 --> 01:48:45.120] So when a policeman shows up and he's prominently displaying a deadly weapon [01:48:45.120 --> 01:48:49.120] He better be very, very careful [01:48:49.120 --> 01:48:57.120] And in Texas, our legislature intended that he be very, very careful [01:48:57.120 --> 01:48:59.120] Because what they said was [01:48:59.120 --> 01:49:05.120] If you are a public official and you exert or purport to exert an authority [01:49:05.120 --> 01:49:08.120] You do not expressly have [01:49:08.120 --> 01:49:15.120] While prominently displaying a deadly weapon as a first degree felony, 20 to life [01:49:15.120 --> 01:49:21.120] The legislature considered that one really, really big deal [01:49:21.120 --> 01:49:26.120] So when that police officer steps on my property with a pistol on his hip [01:49:26.120 --> 01:49:29.120] He better be really careful [01:49:29.120 --> 01:49:32.120] So here, they come on your property [01:49:32.120 --> 01:49:34.120] They make threats against you [01:49:34.120 --> 01:49:40.120] First thing I do, file a criminal complaint against the officer for official oppression [01:49:40.120 --> 01:49:45.120] Oh, I didn't commit official oppression, well, prove it [01:49:45.120 --> 01:49:49.120] If you have the authority you claim, prove it [01:49:49.120 --> 01:49:51.120] Show me that authority [01:49:51.120 --> 01:49:54.120] Give me reason not to pursue prosecution [01:49:54.120 --> 01:50:01.120] And not sue you for under 42 years code 1983 [01:50:01.120 --> 01:50:04.120] Take you back to them [01:50:04.120 --> 01:50:07.120] And criminal complaints the easiest way, just go down to the JP [01:50:07.120 --> 01:50:09.120] File a complaint with the JP [01:50:09.120 --> 01:50:11.120] Now the JP is not going to want to act on it [01:50:11.120 --> 01:50:13.120] That's okay [01:50:13.120 --> 01:50:15.120] We don't care [01:50:15.120 --> 01:50:20.120] It goes to the fact that you are the sovereign [01:50:20.120 --> 01:50:24.120] And when you go to the JP, when you go to a public official [01:50:24.120 --> 01:50:26.120] You invoke their duty [01:50:26.120 --> 01:50:31.120] Never ever ask a public official to do anything [01:50:31.120 --> 01:50:35.120] That the law does not specifically require him to do [01:50:35.120 --> 01:50:41.120] When a public official exerts or purports to exert an authority [01:50:41.120 --> 01:50:46.120] You have a right to demand the grounds for that authority [01:50:46.120 --> 01:50:51.120] If he fails to produce the grounds [01:50:51.120 --> 01:50:57.120] Then you have reasonable probable cause to believe he doesn't have any [01:50:57.120 --> 01:51:02.120] And if you have knowledge that someone's committed a crime [01:51:02.120 --> 01:51:05.120] You have a civic duty to report that crime [01:51:05.120 --> 01:51:08.120] So you go down to the JP, file against the officer [01:51:08.120 --> 01:51:11.120] Official oppression, aggravated assault [01:51:11.120 --> 01:51:16.120] He committed official oppression while prominently displaying a deadly weapon and was arrested [01:51:16.120 --> 01:51:19.120] And the JP is going, oh, what did he do, blah, blah, blah [01:51:19.120 --> 01:51:23.120] And you file a complaint [01:51:23.120 --> 01:51:27.120] Ask the JP to hold an examining trial [01:51:27.120 --> 01:51:30.120] He's probably not even going to know what you're talking about [01:51:30.120 --> 01:51:32.120] You don't care [01:51:32.120 --> 01:51:36.120] And when he tells you, well, they got authority to do that [01:51:36.120 --> 01:51:41.120] Well, I want them to come in here and show me that authority, I can't find it [01:51:41.120 --> 01:51:45.120] Because I can't find it and I asked them for it and they didn't produce it [01:51:45.120 --> 01:51:48.120] So I have reason to believe they don't have it [01:51:48.120 --> 01:51:49.120] They got to prove it out [01:51:49.120 --> 01:51:52.120] When the JP doesn't hold an examining trial [01:51:52.120 --> 01:51:56.120] Then you go to a higher level judge [01:51:56.120 --> 01:51:59.120] Or you go to the prosecuting attorney [01:51:59.120 --> 01:52:02.120] And this goes to the adage [01:52:02.120 --> 01:52:08.120] You'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side [01:52:08.120 --> 01:52:11.120] To think so is naive [01:52:11.120 --> 01:52:16.120] You win the law if you have the politics on your side [01:52:16.120 --> 01:52:21.120] And what I'm talking about here is politics [01:52:21.120 --> 01:52:26.120] When a policeman comes on your property and he does his little huffy puffy stuff [01:52:26.120 --> 01:52:30.120] And then when he goes, first thing you do is go down and file charges against him [01:52:30.120 --> 01:52:34.120] Now he's going to have to go before his boss and explain to his boss [01:52:34.120 --> 01:52:36.120] Why he shouldn't be in trouble [01:52:36.120 --> 01:52:40.120] Because now I got a magistrate over here who's all upset [01:52:40.120 --> 01:52:44.120] Because the citizens filing complaints against the magistrate [01:52:44.120 --> 01:52:46.120] Because the magistrate wouldn't have you arrested [01:52:46.120 --> 01:52:49.120] You want to explain what's going on [01:52:49.120 --> 01:52:52.120] Politics [01:52:52.120 --> 01:52:54.120] You just generate a little politics [01:52:54.120 --> 01:52:59.120] You let them know that you are the master [01:52:59.120 --> 01:53:01.120] You're going to invoke their duty [01:53:01.120 --> 01:53:02.120] You will do your duty [01:53:02.120 --> 01:53:06.120] Fine, I'll just go to the next step [01:53:06.120 --> 01:53:10.120] This drives them crazy [01:53:10.120 --> 01:53:14.120] So does that make sense, Larry? [01:53:14.120 --> 01:53:17.120] Hold on, I forgot to unmute you [01:53:17.120 --> 01:53:19.120] Let me throw one more thing in here [01:53:19.120 --> 01:53:23.120] When the officers get to my cattle guard to come onto the ranch [01:53:23.120 --> 01:53:31.120] There's a big no trespassing sign that cites USC 18241 and 242 [01:53:31.120 --> 01:53:36.120] Tells government officials they cannot come onto property without a warrant [01:53:36.120 --> 01:53:42.120] A complaint accompanied by an affidavit or for the investigation [01:53:42.120 --> 01:53:44.120] Good for you [01:53:44.120 --> 01:53:46.120] Okay [01:53:46.120 --> 01:53:54.120] Put in a request to the Sheriff's Department for the complaint and affidavit [01:53:54.120 --> 01:54:01.120] Actually, go to the JP for your precinct [01:54:01.120 --> 01:54:06.120] And ask to see the file on the complaint that was filed against you [01:54:06.120 --> 01:54:10.120] That brought the officers out [01:54:10.120 --> 01:54:14.120] And what do you think the JP is going to say? [01:54:14.120 --> 01:54:16.120] I would say he's not going to have a file [01:54:16.120 --> 01:54:18.120] Exactly [01:54:18.120 --> 01:54:23.120] Then you file criminal trespass against him [01:54:23.120 --> 01:54:24.120] Okay [01:54:24.120 --> 01:54:27.120] That's why I'm calling the master that knows this stuff [01:54:27.120 --> 01:54:30.120] I'm learning, but I'm learning slowly [01:54:30.120 --> 01:54:34.120] Okay, understand about filing criminal complaints [01:54:34.120 --> 01:54:41.120] The police need the public to participate in suppressing crime [01:54:41.120 --> 01:54:46.120] So if you have knowledge of a crime, you have a duty to report it [01:54:46.120 --> 01:54:55.120] So when you report it, you have the exact same protection that a judge has [01:54:55.120 --> 01:54:58.120] You know, I've been down filing these complaints and they get all upset [01:54:58.120 --> 01:55:01.120] And I tell them, oh yeah, that's right [01:55:01.120 --> 01:55:04.120] Shoot the messenger [01:55:04.120 --> 01:55:06.120] Why are you getting upset at me, guys? [01:55:06.120 --> 01:55:08.120] I didn't commit the crime, I'm just reporting it [01:55:08.120 --> 01:55:11.120] This is my job [01:55:11.120 --> 01:55:20.120] And if it's criminal trespass while prominently displaying a deadly weapon, that's a felony [01:55:20.120 --> 01:55:26.120] In every state I've looked at, if you have knowledge that a felony has been committed and you don't report it [01:55:26.120 --> 01:55:32.120] You'd be arrested and prosecuted yourself [01:55:32.120 --> 01:55:35.120] Yeah, that's a prisoner felony then, right? [01:55:35.120 --> 01:55:40.120] Oh, aggravated, well they got the pistol on [01:55:40.120 --> 01:55:49.120] They commit any crime or exert an authority, report to exert an authority they don't have while displaying the deadly weapon [01:55:49.120 --> 01:55:54.120] They enter your property without a warrant when it's clearly posted [01:55:54.120 --> 01:55:59.120] While prominently displaying the deadly weapon, that's felony [01:55:59.120 --> 01:56:02.120] If you don't report it, you could be prosecuted [01:56:02.120 --> 01:56:04.120] So you go report it [01:56:04.120 --> 01:56:08.120] And then the one you report it to, when he doesn't do with it what he's supposed to do with it [01:56:08.120 --> 01:56:11.120] Then you file, you go to the next step up and file against him [01:56:11.120 --> 01:56:15.120] Don't go back to him and say, well you're supposed to do this, you're supposed to do that [01:56:15.120 --> 01:56:17.120] Just go to the next guy [01:56:17.120 --> 01:56:21.120] We're in the military [01:56:21.120 --> 01:56:25.120] Okay, just work up the chain of command [01:56:25.120 --> 01:56:27.120] Were you ever in the military? [01:56:27.120 --> 01:56:29.120] No, I wasn't [01:56:29.120 --> 01:56:31.120] Okay, well this is how it works in the military [01:56:31.120 --> 01:56:37.120] If I have a problem with you, I don't go to you, I go to your supervisor [01:56:37.120 --> 01:56:42.120] Your NCOIC or your NCO [01:56:42.120 --> 01:56:46.120] And if I don't get satisfaction from your NCO, I go to your NCOIC [01:56:46.120 --> 01:56:51.120] If I don't get satisfaction from him, I go to your OIC, your officer in charge [01:56:51.120 --> 01:56:56.120] This non-commissioned officer in charge [01:56:56.120 --> 01:56:58.120] If I don't get it from him, I go to the base commander [01:56:58.120 --> 01:57:01.120] If I don't get it from him, I go to the inspector general [01:57:01.120 --> 01:57:03.120] But I just follow the steps [01:57:03.120 --> 01:57:06.120] Same way here [01:57:06.120 --> 01:57:11.120] Policeman comes out, he works for the sheriff as far as you're concerned [01:57:11.120 --> 01:57:14.120] You didn't hire that policeman, that sheriff's deputy [01:57:14.120 --> 01:57:17.120] Sheriff hired the sheriff's deputy, you hired the sheriff [01:57:17.120 --> 01:57:19.120] Sheriff works for you [01:57:19.120 --> 01:57:24.120] So you go to the sheriff with your issue when you don't get satisfaction [01:57:24.120 --> 01:57:26.120] You just go to the next step [01:57:26.120 --> 01:57:29.120] You go to the magistrate and file the complaint against the sheriff [01:57:29.120 --> 01:57:33.120] The sheriff is respondeat superior [01:57:33.120 --> 01:57:37.120] Everything these deputies do, they do in his name [01:57:37.120 --> 01:57:42.120] When you accuse the sheriff of sending these police officers out [01:57:42.120 --> 01:57:46.120] To trespass on your property while displaying deadly weapons [01:57:46.120 --> 01:57:48.120] He is not going to be a happy camper [01:57:48.120 --> 01:57:52.120] Because he didn't send them out there to do that [01:57:52.120 --> 01:58:00.120] These guys are going to have a problem even if they didn't do anything wrong [01:58:00.120 --> 01:58:03.120] Does that all make sense? [01:58:03.120 --> 01:58:05.120] Yes, it makes perfect sense [01:58:05.120 --> 01:58:08.120] I will start my study immediately [01:58:08.120 --> 01:58:13.120] Okay, if you want we'll have a four hour show tomorrow night, we'll have a lot more time [01:58:13.120 --> 01:58:16.120] This could kind of be fun to go over [01:58:16.120 --> 01:58:19.120] This is the best place to beat them up [01:58:19.120 --> 01:58:21.120] The tiny little stuff [01:58:21.120 --> 01:58:24.120] When they don't expect it, they don't see it coming [01:58:24.120 --> 01:58:28.120] It keeps them from doing a lot worse stuff [01:58:28.120 --> 01:58:30.120] Thank you for listening, thank you for calling in Larry [01:58:30.120 --> 01:58:34.120] This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, rule of our radio [01:58:34.120 --> 01:58:39.120] We'll be back tomorrow night with our four hour info marathon [01:58:39.120 --> 01:58:45.120] So give us a call, let's play some Stump to Chops [01:58:45.120 --> 01:58:49.120] I haven't been stumped enough lately, we'll be back tomorrow [01:58:49.120 --> 01:58:57.120] Bibles for America is offering absolutely free a unique study bible called the New Testament Recovery Version [01:58:57.120 --> 01:59:04.120] The New Testament Recovery Version has over 9,000 footnotes that explain what the bible says verse by verse [01:59:04.120 --> 01:59:08.120] Helping you to know God and to know the meaning of life [01:59:08.120 --> 01:59:11.120] Order your free copy today from Bibles for America [01:59:11.120 --> 01:59:20.120] Call us toll free at 888-551-0102 or visit us online at bfa.org [01:59:20.120 --> 01:59:27.120] This translation is highly accurate and it comes with over 13,000 cross references plus charts and maps [01:59:27.120 --> 01:59:30.120] And an outline for every book of the bible [01:59:30.120 --> 01:59:32.120] This is truly a bible you can understand [01:59:32.120 --> 01:59:35.120] To get your free copy of the New Testament Recovery Version [01:59:35.120 --> 01:59:40.120] Call us toll free at 888-551-0102 [01:59:40.120 --> 01:59:49.120] That's 888-551-0102 or visit us online at bfa.org [01:59:49.120 --> 01:59:59.120] You're listening to the Logos Radio Network at logosradionetwork.com