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[00:08.880 --> 00:14.400]  I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Friday, April 25th, 2014.
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[01:02.560 --> 01:06.280]  In the news, sweeping changes regarding gun laws in two states this week.
[01:06.280 --> 01:10.680]  In Georgia, Governor Nathan Deal has signed legislation into law that will allow guns
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[01:13.800 --> 01:18.720]  The Los Angeles Times reports the State Carry Protection Act takes effect July 1st.
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[04:17.840 --> 04:32.600]  Alright folks, good evening.
[04:32.600 --> 04:35.000]  This is the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Show.
[04:35.000 --> 04:38.880]  It is April 28th, 2014.
[04:38.880 --> 04:42.200]  Alright, this is getting an early start tonight.
[04:42.200 --> 04:46.400]  I hadn't even quite got the show even started yet and we've already got callers up on the
[04:46.400 --> 04:50.360]  board so go ahead and give us a call and we'll put you up on the board and get you ready
[04:50.360 --> 04:51.360]  here.
[04:51.360 --> 04:58.600]  512-646-1984 is the call-in number and I guess for the moment, until we get some more up
[04:58.600 --> 05:01.840]  here, I'm going to go ahead and take Brian's call since he's already here.
[05:01.840 --> 05:03.800]  Brian, what can we do for you?
[05:03.800 --> 05:05.800]  Oh, hi Eddie.
[05:05.800 --> 05:12.760]  Calling out here from Michigan, got a couple of questions for you.
[05:12.760 --> 05:21.880]  I got pulled over and they cited me, well, I refused to take a field breast laser test
[05:21.880 --> 05:30.480]  and they pulled me in, took blood and it came back as a.09 and they wrote on the citation,
[05:30.480 --> 05:41.920]  you know, 257.625A and then underneath that is 1310 which is my OSHA standards.
[05:41.920 --> 05:49.240]  So it's all clearly operating, has to do with commerce.
[05:49.240 --> 05:55.160]  Now I am in a company vehicle when I'm for hire, when I'm at work, however at the time
[05:55.160 --> 06:03.960]  I was not and it does have DOT numbers on the side but I've found even under their
[06:03.960 --> 06:09.880]  codes it says it doesn't even have to be on there just if I'm over 10,001 pounds which
[06:09.880 --> 06:16.280]  it's on there for I'm an oil field welder so any time that I'm hauling well heads and
[06:16.280 --> 06:20.640]  stuff of that nature that puts me over that weight, you know, we've got it on there just
[06:20.640 --> 06:21.640]  in case.
[06:21.640 --> 06:27.080]  But like I said at that time I was simply traveling and they are trying to get me for
[06:27.080 --> 06:34.960]  commercial citation of refusing the breast laser test and that's fine.
[06:34.960 --> 06:41.640]  Okay first thing is what exactly did you say to the point of refusing?
[06:41.640 --> 06:55.400]  He had asked me to go into the field machine and I told him that I wasn't going to do it.
[06:55.400 --> 06:59.200]  Why did you choose that particular tack?
[06:59.200 --> 07:03.360]  Because where I had just left, I mean I had just drank a couple of beers and if I blew
[07:03.360 --> 07:06.800]  into it then it was going to be something astronomical because it has to be.
[07:06.800 --> 07:09.000]  Okay no no no you're misunderstanding my question.
[07:09.000 --> 07:16.120]  I'm not asking for your reason for not wanting to blow, I'm asking for the reason why you
[07:16.120 --> 07:20.680]  said what you said.
[07:20.680 --> 07:23.040]  That it is my right not to.
[07:23.040 --> 07:32.040]  Okay so what is the proper way to assert your right not to so that they cannot use it against
[07:32.040 --> 07:34.480]  you as a refusal?
[07:34.480 --> 07:41.680]  Yeah I see them, barely knew it all this so.
[07:41.680 --> 07:46.320]  Okay well guess where is not a good place to experiment?
[07:46.320 --> 07:47.320]  Right there.
[07:47.320 --> 07:48.320]  Yep.
[07:48.320 --> 07:49.320]  Yep.
[07:49.320 --> 08:00.000]  Well pretty much my best defense on that is I wasn't engaged in commerce.
[08:00.000 --> 08:05.160]  Okay you misunderstand, okay let me back up here for a second.
[08:05.160 --> 08:17.480]  This is problem number one, numero uno, the highest order of problems is not understanding
[08:17.480 --> 08:22.120]  what your rights are and how to use them.
[08:22.120 --> 08:33.480]  Okay now are you required to provide anyone with information or evidence that they can
[08:33.480 --> 08:38.280]  use against you in a court of law or to potentially incriminate you in any way?
[08:38.280 --> 08:40.720]  Absolutely not.
[08:40.720 --> 08:52.320]  And what would be the proper way to say I am invoking my right to not take your tests?
[08:52.320 --> 08:58.280]  Absolutely I have the right not to incriminate myself.
[08:58.280 --> 09:05.240]  Okay I'm not asking for a question, I'm asking you what's the proper way to make that assertion
[09:05.240 --> 09:08.680]  to the officers?
[09:08.680 --> 09:13.760]  How do you say it so that it is not a refusal they can use against you?
[09:13.760 --> 09:21.080]  Ask them if anything that they say or do can be used against me.
[09:21.080 --> 09:23.360]  Say it again?
[09:23.360 --> 09:29.440]  By asking them if anything that I provide to them can and will be used against me.
[09:29.440 --> 09:40.080]  Well what do you have to do before you ask that question?
[09:40.080 --> 09:45.200]  You need to invoke the rights that question is meant to protect.
[09:45.200 --> 09:49.360]  Officer I'm invoking my right to remain silent and my right to assistance of counsel.
[09:49.360 --> 09:54.240]  Now as far as the field sobriety test goes, is that in any way something that you can
[09:54.240 --> 09:58.000]  use against me or in a court of law or that could be used to potentially incriminate me
[09:58.000 --> 09:59.520]  in any way?
[09:59.520 --> 10:07.360]  If so then I must decline to take the test until I have proper advisement by legal counsel.
[10:07.360 --> 10:13.960]  Now you're not refusing, you're simply saying unless my legal counsel advises me to do it
[10:13.960 --> 10:18.800]  I can't do it and I'm not going to waive my right to counsel so you can force me to do
[10:18.800 --> 10:20.880]  it and then use it against me.
[10:20.880 --> 10:25.080]  Do you understand what I'm saying?
[10:25.080 --> 10:26.360]  Absolutely.
[10:26.360 --> 10:29.320]  Now folks this brings up another issue.
[10:29.320 --> 10:34.440]  It doesn't matter how you try to do it, they're going to try to say that it's a refusal so
[10:34.440 --> 10:38.960]  that they can administratively suspend your license.
[10:38.960 --> 10:49.560]  However when the license is related to your ability to work or your ability to provide
[10:49.560 --> 10:58.640]  a means of getting around to those who do work or have needs that need to be met and
[10:58.640 --> 11:06.060]  so on and so forth, they cannot just arbitrarily revoke the license or suspend it.
[11:06.060 --> 11:11.160]  They have to provide you with a proper judicial hearing first.
[11:11.160 --> 11:17.820]  Now they're always going to try to do an administrative suspension and you need to go and challenge
[11:17.820 --> 11:22.640]  that administrative suspension based upon the fact that they attempted to get you to
[11:22.640 --> 11:26.960]  waive a protected right and you weren't going to do that.
[11:26.960 --> 11:31.760]  Not until your legal counsel had advised you to do otherwise.
[11:31.760 --> 11:35.520]  Would it be too late to do that if I've already had a...
[11:35.520 --> 11:40.600]  Well the video from the time is going to show you didn't do that.
[11:40.600 --> 11:43.240]  So the answer to your question is what?
[11:43.240 --> 11:44.240]  No.
[11:44.240 --> 11:45.240]  Gotcha.
[11:45.240 --> 11:46.240]  Okay.
[11:46.240 --> 11:53.640]  Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the fact that you tried.
[11:53.640 --> 12:00.140]  What I am knocking is you tried to do something you were not fully prepared to see through
[12:00.140 --> 12:03.280]  and that can hurt you.
[12:03.280 --> 12:08.760]  Right, okay.
[12:08.760 --> 12:18.080]  I was watching a couple of your videos there on YouTube and you were talking about refusing
[12:18.080 --> 12:21.480]  or disqualifying a judge.
[12:21.480 --> 12:23.480]  Recusing or disqualifying, yes.
[12:23.480 --> 12:24.480]  Yes.
[12:24.480 --> 12:32.480]  Is there any way that I could get you to email one that's already been previously filed just
[12:32.480 --> 12:33.480]  as a...
[12:33.480 --> 12:34.480]  Email one what?
[12:34.480 --> 12:37.240]  A motion to disqualify or recuse?
[12:37.240 --> 12:38.240]  Yes.
[12:38.240 --> 12:43.800]  Well, the thing is if you're in Michigan, the recusal process in Michigan is liable
[12:43.800 --> 12:46.800]  not to be the same as it is in Texas.
[12:46.800 --> 12:47.800]  Right.
[12:47.800 --> 12:48.800]  Okay.
[12:48.800 --> 12:53.280]  And that particular recusal motion is part of our seminar material.
[12:53.280 --> 12:56.280]  That's not one of the documents we give out for free.
[12:56.280 --> 12:57.280]  Okay.
[12:57.280 --> 13:01.240]  Okay, I suppose.
[13:01.240 --> 13:06.000]  But now if you will look at the statutes in Michigan and find where it talks about the
[13:06.000 --> 13:12.160]  recusal of a particular judge at a particular level of court, then you can base whatever
[13:12.160 --> 13:16.720]  motion you need to on what you find there.
[13:16.720 --> 13:19.440]  Okay.
[13:19.440 --> 13:25.720]  Another question that I was going to ask you is if all this goes through and I get found
[13:25.720 --> 13:30.360]  guilty and I'm sitting in jail, and how would the appeal process work there?
[13:30.360 --> 13:35.120]  Obviously, they can't deprive you, you know, your law library or whatever to appeal it,
[13:35.120 --> 13:37.200]  but you would still be incarcerated.
[13:37.200 --> 13:42.440]  Well, again, in order to appeal it, you would have to have some form of appealable error
[13:42.440 --> 13:44.320]  to address.
[13:44.320 --> 13:49.780]  You have to remember that your appeal actually starts at trial.
[13:49.780 --> 13:55.280]  Everything you're doing at trial is meant to build a record set for appeal to prove
[13:55.280 --> 14:02.400]  due process violations by the court, by the prosecution, by your own attorney, by the
[14:02.400 --> 14:09.400]  jury instructions, by the lack of evidence, anything and all, everything like that.
[14:09.400 --> 14:14.040]  So that's where your record starts is at trial.
[14:14.040 --> 14:15.400]  Okay.
[14:15.400 --> 14:20.960]  So you better become very, very familiar with what they're trying to charge you with.
[14:20.960 --> 14:24.040]  And you better make darn sure your attorney is too.
[14:24.040 --> 14:31.840]  Well, if they're trying to get me for, I mean, this is 100% a commercial citation and I wasn't
[14:31.840 --> 14:33.640]  engaged in anything commercial.
[14:33.640 --> 14:38.080]  Well, again, what are you basing that on?
[14:38.080 --> 14:44.560]  The fact that when I was traveling, it didn't weigh over 10,001 pounds.
[14:44.560 --> 14:45.560]  Okay.
[14:45.560 --> 14:48.160]  That is not the only thing that makes it commercial.
[14:48.160 --> 14:51.600]  The weight alone is not the only criteria.
[14:51.600 --> 14:52.760]  Right.
[14:52.760 --> 14:53.760]  No passengers.
[14:53.760 --> 14:56.720]  I wasn't for hire.
[14:56.720 --> 14:57.860]  Okay.
[14:57.860 --> 15:04.960]  But you're still, what makes you think they're charging you under the transportation code
[15:04.960 --> 15:09.440]  in Michigan rather than the penal code?
[15:09.440 --> 15:12.080]  The MiOSHA 1310.
[15:12.080 --> 15:13.400]  Okay.
[15:13.400 --> 15:21.480]  That can be a secondary element to allow them to do something in addition to the charge.
[15:21.480 --> 15:31.000]  But how does OSHA have a statute that you could be charged under?
[15:31.000 --> 15:35.120]  Well, the only way they could is if it was with, I was-
[15:35.120 --> 15:36.120]  Wait, wait, wait.
[15:36.120 --> 15:39.080]  You're not answering my question.
[15:39.080 --> 15:46.840]  How could OSHA possibly have a statute that you could be charged under?
[15:46.840 --> 15:47.840]  They wouldn't.
[15:47.840 --> 15:50.840]  It's just regulations.
[15:50.840 --> 15:52.200]  No.
[15:52.200 --> 15:57.040]  Not the correct question or response to the question at all.
[15:57.040 --> 15:58.280]  OSHA is federal.
[15:58.280 --> 15:59.840]  It's not state.
[15:59.840 --> 16:01.080]  Right.
[16:01.080 --> 16:03.360]  What you did is a state violation.
[16:03.360 --> 16:15.040]  So how could OSHA apply to it in any way, shape, or form from a criminal aspect?
[16:15.040 --> 16:16.560]  I wouldn't think it could.
[16:16.560 --> 16:17.560]  Okay then.
[16:17.560 --> 16:23.640]  You're making a presumption, not a known fact.
[16:23.640 --> 16:28.000]  You said there was two things listed on this, correct?
[16:28.000 --> 16:32.680]  What code are those things found in?
[16:32.680 --> 16:33.680]  2578.
[16:33.680 --> 16:34.680]  Okay.
[16:34.680 --> 16:38.960]  Hang on just a second, Brian, and you can answer it on the other side.
[16:38.960 --> 16:39.960]  We're about to take a break.
[16:39.960 --> 16:40.960]  All right, folks.
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[19:32.720 --> 19:33.720]  We are back.
[19:33.720 --> 19:37.760]  This is Rule of Law Radio and I lost my caller.
[19:37.760 --> 19:40.480]  He disappeared off the board here.
[19:40.480 --> 19:41.480]  Okay.
[19:41.480 --> 19:44.200]  I'm not sure why that is.
[19:44.200 --> 19:48.080]  But while we're waiting on him to call back, we're going to go ahead and take Shawn in
[19:48.080 --> 19:49.080]  Texas.
[19:49.080 --> 19:50.080]  Shawn, what can we do for you?
[19:50.080 --> 19:51.080]  Hi, Greg.
[19:51.080 --> 19:52.080]  I called last Monday.
[19:52.080 --> 19:59.080]  I said I got a speeding ticket about three hours away and the lady told me that they
[19:59.080 --> 20:02.720]  were going to be closed on the date I was supposed to appear.
[20:02.720 --> 20:03.720]  They were closed.
[20:03.720 --> 20:10.920]  I went over there today because it was the first day that the clerk administrator would
[20:10.920 --> 20:11.920]  be there.
[20:11.920 --> 20:12.920]  I showed up.
[20:12.920 --> 20:14.560]  I followed all my stuff.
[20:14.560 --> 20:18.400]  She kept trying to give me the sign, a plea, like four times.
[20:18.400 --> 20:23.080]  I told her no, I would not.
[20:23.080 --> 20:29.560]  If I made clerical errors on any of the stuff that I've filed, how could I resubmit those?
[20:29.560 --> 20:32.720]  Well when you mean a clerical error, what are we talking about?
[20:32.720 --> 20:38.200]  I feel like instead of Willis D. County, I accidentally left Travis County on like one
[20:38.200 --> 20:40.680]  of the forms.
[20:40.680 --> 20:42.280]  You file an amended version.
[20:42.280 --> 20:45.440]  You just put amended at the end of the title and refile it.
[20:45.440 --> 20:46.440]  Amended.
[20:46.440 --> 20:47.440]  Okay.
[20:47.440 --> 20:59.320]  Now that I've filed all those things to start off with, my court dates are on the 13th.
[20:59.320 --> 21:04.640]  What's going to do to stay ahead of the game and to be on the offense so that when I go,
[21:04.640 --> 21:12.360]  they're just confused and I get them off guard because I hit them with facts and stuff.
[21:12.360 --> 21:15.120]  Have you actually read the documentation you're filing?
[21:15.120 --> 21:17.360]  Yeah, some of them, yeah.
[21:17.360 --> 21:18.360]  What do you mean some of them?
[21:18.360 --> 21:19.360]  The one that I've filed, I've read.
[21:19.360 --> 21:26.960]  I need to read them a lot more, but- Okay.
[21:26.960 --> 21:33.720]  The majority of what you need to know if you have to argue anything is what's in those
[21:33.720 --> 21:34.720]  documents.
[21:34.720 --> 21:35.720]  All right.
[21:35.720 --> 21:36.720]  Okay.
[21:36.720 --> 21:44.200]  Now as far as the court procedure, well, that's a little bit more convoluted because that
[21:44.200 --> 21:48.560]  depends entirely upon whether or not the court's actually going to follow proper procedure
[21:48.560 --> 21:51.080]  and most of them don't.
[21:51.080 --> 21:52.080]  Okay.
[21:52.080 --> 22:02.480]  The JP, they wouldn't file the stuff for the DA or the opposing counsel.
[22:02.480 --> 22:06.160]  They said, I had to go and turn the paperwork into them, so I did.
[22:06.160 --> 22:12.000]  And the opposing counsel is the DA and he tried to get me to, he said we were going
[22:12.000 --> 22:18.600]  to have a pre-trial conference and if we don't come to an agreement, we'll set a date for
[22:18.600 --> 22:19.600]  court.
[22:19.600 --> 22:23.280]  But he actually got too bogged down and then he said, you can just go ahead and go and
[22:23.280 --> 22:26.080]  set up the court date.
[22:26.080 --> 22:29.680]  And that was the end of that.
[22:29.680 --> 22:30.680]  Okay.
[22:30.680 --> 22:36.600]  Well, if you file motions, you have the right to have the motions heard prior to trial.
[22:36.600 --> 22:43.560]  Now they may do it the day of trial, but you still have the right to have them heard.
[22:43.560 --> 22:44.840]  Okay.
[22:44.840 --> 22:50.680]  And so don't let them ignore them when they do that, but you don't know when the date's
[22:50.680 --> 22:51.680]  going to be yet.
[22:51.680 --> 22:52.680]  As far as what?
[22:52.680 --> 22:53.680]  The date of the court date?
[22:53.680 --> 22:54.680]  Yes.
[22:54.680 --> 22:55.680]  No, no, yeah.
[22:55.680 --> 22:56.680]  It's May 13th.
[22:56.680 --> 22:57.680]  May 13th.
[22:57.680 --> 22:58.680]  Yes, sir.
[22:58.680 --> 23:03.680]  So they set a date right then?
[23:03.680 --> 23:06.200]  Yes, sir.
[23:06.200 --> 23:07.200]  Okay.
[23:07.200 --> 23:12.280]  Well, the problem is, is there's no way I can tell you all of the different processes
[23:12.280 --> 23:16.240]  they can go through in this show.
[23:16.240 --> 23:18.240]  Yeah, yeah.
[23:18.240 --> 23:24.880]  I spent six hours on the road today and I was listening to your CD the whole way, back
[23:24.880 --> 23:25.880]  and forth.
[23:25.880 --> 23:28.080]  So mine's pretty stuffed with a lot of stuff.
[23:28.080 --> 23:31.200]  I just got to get it out on paper and have notes.
[23:31.200 --> 23:32.200]  Yeah.
[23:32.200 --> 23:38.120]  The things you need to know first and foremost about every appearance you make, anytime you
[23:38.120 --> 23:43.480]  go to court, there are specific words out of your mouth, which I'm willing to bet you
[23:43.480 --> 23:46.640]  didn't do when you went in there.
[23:46.640 --> 23:51.080]  And the first one is, I reserve the right of special appearance to challenge the jurisdiction
[23:51.080 --> 23:53.280]  of the court.
[23:53.280 --> 23:57.360]  And the second is that I move all proceedings beyond the record, even if it's not a court
[23:57.360 --> 23:59.160]  of record.
[23:59.160 --> 24:01.320]  Okay.
[24:01.320 --> 24:04.800]  So did you appear before magistrate and not do those things?
[24:04.800 --> 24:07.520]  No, I didn't appear in front of any judge.
[24:07.520 --> 24:13.320]  It was just me and the court administrator, the lady at the desk.
[24:13.320 --> 24:14.320]  The clerk.
[24:14.320 --> 24:15.320]  Yeah.
[24:15.320 --> 24:16.320]  Okay.
[24:16.320 --> 24:17.320]  All right.
[24:17.320 --> 24:23.240]  Anytime you go in front of any magistrate or judge, those are the two first things out
[24:23.240 --> 24:26.640]  of your mouth, always and in that order.
[24:26.640 --> 24:27.640]  Understood?
[24:27.640 --> 24:28.640]  Okay.
[24:28.640 --> 24:34.920]  If you fail to reserve your right to special appearance, you're waiving personal jurisdiction,
[24:34.920 --> 24:35.920]  impersonal jurisdiction.
[24:35.920 --> 24:40.040]  You cannot waive subject matter.
[24:40.040 --> 24:43.760]  The court either has it or it doesn't.
[24:43.760 --> 24:44.920]  It's not up to them.
[24:44.920 --> 24:46.120]  It's not up to you.
[24:46.120 --> 24:52.220]  If the law does not grant them subject matter jurisdiction through proper procedure and
[24:52.220 --> 24:58.880]  proper everything else, they don't have it no matter what they say.
[24:58.880 --> 25:06.240]  But we're not going to waive anything that we don't absolutely have to.
[25:06.240 --> 25:07.240]  Okay.
[25:07.240 --> 25:08.240]  Okay.
[25:08.240 --> 25:15.240]  So in relation to that, that's always the first thing out of your mouth.
[25:15.240 --> 25:21.600]  Everything else you've got to do is in relation to the practice scripts that are on the website.
[25:21.600 --> 25:22.600]  Okay.
[25:22.600 --> 25:23.600]  Got it.
[25:23.600 --> 25:24.600]  Okay.
[25:24.600 --> 25:32.360]  Now, the practice script for cross-examination goes into what the deadly sins are and why
[25:32.360 --> 25:36.320]  you object to them and so on and so forth.
[25:36.320 --> 25:41.960]  So you need to study that script intensely because while the prosecutor is doing their
[25:41.960 --> 25:50.300]  thing, they're going to be referring to the deadly sins regularly and you must be objecting
[25:50.300 --> 25:56.240]  every time they do.
[25:56.240 --> 26:05.360]  The only time you do not object to the use of a deadly sin is when it has already been
[26:05.360 --> 26:14.720]  overruled by the court on your objection and the prosecutor asks the same question again
[26:14.720 --> 26:18.440]  using that deadly sin or group up.
[26:18.440 --> 26:19.600]  Okay.
[26:19.600 --> 26:26.720]  But if they rephrase the question in any way that would elicit a different set of facts,
[26:26.720 --> 26:29.160]  you will object to it again.
[26:29.160 --> 26:34.120]  If they try to argue that they've already overruled that, then your argument is no,
[26:34.120 --> 26:35.120]  sir.
[26:35.120 --> 26:38.240]  They reworded the question to elicit a different set of facts.
[26:38.240 --> 26:43.560]  Therefore, my challenge is the same.
[26:43.560 --> 26:46.560]  Okay.
[26:46.560 --> 26:58.600]  After this, because it's a JP court, could it get put to rest there or will they still
[26:58.600 --> 27:01.600]  say, you know?
[27:01.600 --> 27:02.600]  You like trains?
[27:02.600 --> 27:03.600]  What's that?
[27:03.600 --> 27:04.600]  Do you like trains?
[27:04.600 --> 27:05.600]  No.
[27:05.600 --> 27:06.600]  Not really.
[27:06.600 --> 27:14.640]  Well, too bad because when you go to court for these things, you're going to get railroaded
[27:14.640 --> 27:18.000]  all right.
[27:18.000 --> 27:23.440]  So you'd better learn to like trains and learn how to read a schedule and how to properly
[27:23.440 --> 27:29.360]  ride one or you're going to wind up playing around on the platform and the tracks and
[27:29.360 --> 27:30.360]  get run over.
[27:30.360 --> 27:31.360]  Okay.
[27:31.360 --> 27:36.000]  Well, I kind of feel like I'm in it for the long haul.
[27:36.000 --> 27:38.760]  I want to see justice too.
[27:38.760 --> 27:40.760]  No.
[27:40.760 --> 27:49.000]  Again, you do not go into these courts with the intention of winning at trial.
[27:49.000 --> 27:52.320]  Are we clear?
[27:52.320 --> 27:53.320]  Not winning at trial.
[27:53.320 --> 27:54.320]  Yes.
[27:54.320 --> 27:59.880]  If you win at trial, it will be sheer dumb luck.
[27:59.880 --> 28:01.560]  Okay.
[28:01.560 --> 28:08.680]  It will most assuredly not be because of anything else because it's extremely difficult to win
[28:08.680 --> 28:12.840]  under any other conditions when the deck is already stacked against you and the court
[28:12.840 --> 28:16.680]  is operating to ensure that you cannot win.
[28:16.680 --> 28:20.680]  Do you understand?
[28:20.680 --> 28:21.680]  Yes.
[28:21.680 --> 28:25.120]  So what do I want my outcomes to be?
[28:25.120 --> 28:30.960]  Your outcome is to file and argue everything properly for the purpose of making a record
[28:30.960 --> 28:33.960]  for your de novo appeal.
[28:33.960 --> 28:36.960]  Okay.
[28:36.960 --> 28:42.720]  Look at this as a trial run to get your appeal.
[28:42.720 --> 28:47.480]  This is your practice for your actual de novo.
[28:47.480 --> 28:52.840]  Since the JP courts are courts of no record, you get to go to a county court or a county
[28:52.840 --> 28:59.080]  court at law and do a rehearing or a retrial of the same thing.
[28:59.080 --> 29:04.600]  So you will get practice at the original trial.
[29:04.600 --> 29:12.160]  But it's very important that you do things properly at the original trial so that you
[29:12.160 --> 29:20.160]  can argue that the de novo court lacks jurisdiction just like the original court did.
[29:20.160 --> 29:25.800]  Because the county court is not the original court of jurisdiction on class C fine only's.
[29:25.800 --> 29:28.840]  JP and municipal courts are.
[29:28.840 --> 29:37.520]  If they never acquired proper jurisdiction, then the county court cannot acquire it either.
[29:37.520 --> 29:42.360]  So it's imperative that you keep it in that context all the way through.
[29:42.360 --> 29:47.440]  Hang on just a minute Sean and we'll finish this discussion on the other side of the break.
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[33:40.560 --> 33:42.160]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[33:42.160 --> 33:49.680]  The call-in number is 512-646-1984 and we are still talking to Sean in Texas and I still
[33:49.680 --> 33:50.680]  need some more callers.
[33:50.680 --> 33:51.680]  All right, Sean, let's continue.
[33:51.680 --> 33:52.680]  All right.
[33:52.680 --> 33:57.680]  Last thing I want to know, I heard when I was listening to your CD, you mentioned about,
[33:57.680 --> 34:02.520]  you know, you'll, you know, take their houses, you'll be swimming pool and all that stuff.
[34:02.520 --> 34:05.880]  How can I get back reparations for gas and for time lost wages?
[34:05.880 --> 34:10.720]  You're not going to get any of that unless you sue for malicious prosecution at the end
[34:10.720 --> 34:11.720]  of this.
[34:11.720 --> 34:12.720]  All right.
[34:12.720 --> 34:16.920]  That's why you have to do everything proper for your appeal so that you can eventually
[34:16.920 --> 34:20.520]  get anything they do overturned in your favor.
[34:20.520 --> 34:24.720]  Then and only then do you have a cause of action for malicious prosecution.
[34:24.720 --> 34:30.920]  So, study hard and listen to your DVD a lot.
[34:30.920 --> 34:31.920]  Yep.
[34:31.920 --> 34:32.920]  I appreciate it.
[34:32.920 --> 34:33.920]  Read even more.
[34:33.920 --> 34:34.920]  All right.
[34:34.920 --> 34:35.920]  Okay.
[34:35.920 --> 34:36.920]  That's all the questions I have.
[34:36.920 --> 34:37.920]  Thank you very much.
[34:37.920 --> 34:38.920]  All right, Sean.
[34:38.920 --> 34:39.920]  Thanks for calling in.
[34:39.920 --> 34:40.920]  Have a good day.
[34:40.920 --> 34:41.920]  All right.
[34:41.920 --> 34:45.920]  I don't have any more callers and I would like to have some more if I can get them.
[34:45.920 --> 34:46.920]  All right.
[34:46.920 --> 34:56.040]  While we are waiting on that though, it's very, very important that you learn what the
[34:56.040 --> 34:59.360]  proper process is.
[34:59.360 --> 35:06.800]  And you have to remember that there are two different ways of this process proceeding.
[35:06.800 --> 35:16.040]  There is this method required by the statute and then there's what they actually do.
[35:16.040 --> 35:23.920]  And they only have some similarities, but they are by no means in compliance with the
[35:23.920 --> 35:27.840]  law in virtually any aspect whatsoever.
[35:27.840 --> 35:32.520]  Most of the stuff they do violates the requirements of the statute.
[35:32.520 --> 35:41.000]  Therefore, it violates your due process rights as granted or protected by the statutes.
[35:41.000 --> 35:47.120]  And the quicker you realize that that's intentional, the better off you're going to be.
[35:47.120 --> 35:55.080]  Because only by realizing that are you going to understand exactly how big the railroad
[35:55.080 --> 35:58.320]  job is intended to be.
[35:58.320 --> 36:03.880]  And believe me, there's a lot more to it than you think.
[36:03.880 --> 36:12.520]  These types of citations and cases have become a huge revenue enhancement for cities, counties
[36:12.520 --> 36:15.200]  and the state.
[36:15.200 --> 36:19.040]  Do not delude yourself into believing otherwise.
[36:19.040 --> 36:25.040]  In 2010, I haven't got a current version of the report, but I need to do a public information
[36:25.040 --> 36:27.200]  request and get one.
[36:27.200 --> 36:32.380]  But the report that I have a copy of from 2010 showed that the city of Austin profited
[36:32.380 --> 36:41.960]  more than $32 million for what it took in in 2010 on traffic citations.
[36:41.960 --> 36:42.960]  Traffic citations.
[36:42.960 --> 36:45.560]  That doesn't include any of the other kind of citations.
[36:45.560 --> 36:50.260]  They write code enforcement and things of that nature, parking.
[36:50.260 --> 36:53.700]  That was simply traffic.
[36:53.700 --> 36:58.720]  The enforcement of this transportation code.
[36:58.720 --> 37:05.760]  Now the city or the county, whatever they take in, they have to pay 50% of that to the
[37:05.760 --> 37:06.920]  state.
[37:06.920 --> 37:12.400]  So the state has a 50% interest in the money.
[37:12.400 --> 37:19.300]  That's exactly why you need to make sure that even the higher courts cannot arbitrarily
[37:19.300 --> 37:21.760]  rule against you in violation of law.
[37:21.760 --> 37:27.880]  Now that doesn't mean they won't, but that it's imperative that you do it in such a way
[37:27.880 --> 37:34.160]  as if they do that you have an appealable error for them doing it.
[37:34.160 --> 37:40.820]  That takes a lot to learn how to do properly for the purpose of making the record.
[37:40.820 --> 37:45.320]  Now the statutory process versus what they actually do.
[37:45.320 --> 37:50.640]  These are the two things that I am comparing in the second book that I'm doing.
[37:50.640 --> 37:52.280]  I'm still trying to figure out.
[37:52.280 --> 37:54.160]  I've got a lot of it written.
[37:54.160 --> 38:01.080]  It's just written in different files organized by the particular subject matter.
[38:01.080 --> 38:08.480]  And I've got to massage that into the actual book form and then join it all together coherently.
[38:08.480 --> 38:16.000]  But the way I want to lay it out is more or less, and for lack of a better term, like
[38:16.000 --> 38:19.760]  the traffic courts for dummies layout.
[38:19.760 --> 38:25.280]  Basically I'm going to break everything down into a set of icon sections.
[38:25.280 --> 38:30.600]  Here's the statutes being invoked by this step of the process.
[38:30.600 --> 38:34.120]  And it'll have a complete list of all the statutes that apply to everything that's going
[38:34.120 --> 38:36.880]  on in that step.
[38:36.880 --> 38:46.280]  And then it will say, okay, here are the statutory requirements for this step.
[38:46.280 --> 38:52.580]  And here is what they will actually try to do in relation to this step.
[38:52.580 --> 39:00.280]  And here are the due process violations that will be a result of how they're doing it versus
[39:00.280 --> 39:02.960]  how they're required to do it.
[39:02.960 --> 39:10.080]  And even if they do do what's required by statute, is there a due process violation
[39:10.080 --> 39:16.280]  being invoked by the statute itself that they're more than happy to comply with?
[39:16.280 --> 39:21.520]  A good example being, for instance, the requirement that you display a license to any peace officer
[39:21.520 --> 39:26.240]  in violation of your right to remain silent and your right to not provide information
[39:26.240 --> 39:30.200]  that can be used against you in a court of law or to potentially incriminate you.
[39:30.200 --> 39:35.240]  That would go the same thing with producing any other documentation and officer demands
[39:35.240 --> 39:36.440]  on the spot.
[39:36.440 --> 39:41.320]  You're not required to provide them with anything they can use against you in a court of law
[39:41.320 --> 39:44.160]  or that they can potentially incriminate you with.
[39:44.160 --> 39:49.600]  It doesn't matter whether you know for a fact it can or it can't.
[39:49.600 --> 39:53.760]  You're not trained in the law well enough to make that determination.
[39:53.760 --> 40:00.560]  You need to understand that your rights are, you cannot be compelled to produce that.
[40:00.560 --> 40:02.600]  And stand on it.
[40:02.600 --> 40:04.240]  Do not give it up.
[40:04.240 --> 40:05.240]  Don't waive it.
[40:05.240 --> 40:08.320]  Turn your back on it.
[40:08.320 --> 40:13.120]  And then anything they take from you without a warrant that they use to incriminate you
[40:13.120 --> 40:20.400]  in any way or to charge you for invoking a protected right, you have an affirmative defense
[40:20.400 --> 40:22.320]  for.
[40:22.320 --> 40:27.720]  Because they cannot take the exercise of a right, convert it into a crime, and punish
[40:27.720 --> 40:29.280]  you for it.
[40:29.280 --> 40:35.000]  Yet, when they try to charge you with failure to display a license, that's exactly what
[40:35.000 --> 40:36.040]  they're doing.
[40:36.040 --> 40:40.920]  When they're charging you with failure to provide financial responsibility because you
[40:40.920 --> 40:44.760]  wouldn't give them the card, that's exactly what they're doing.
[40:44.760 --> 40:49.600]  They're converting your right to remain silent and your right to assistance of counsel into
[40:49.600 --> 40:56.160]  criminal accusations that they can use against you.
[40:56.160 --> 40:59.720]  It astounds me that people don't realize this.
[40:59.720 --> 41:02.400]  They don't understand this.
[41:02.400 --> 41:05.520]  But then again, if everybody understood it, I guess there wouldn't be a reason for this
[41:05.520 --> 41:08.560]  show to be out here.
[41:08.560 --> 41:15.480]  The point being, folks, this is up to you to know.
[41:15.480 --> 41:19.200]  Because I'm not sitting in that car with you anytime this happens.
[41:19.200 --> 41:20.440]  You are.
[41:20.440 --> 41:23.200]  You have to know how to handle this.
[41:23.200 --> 41:26.120]  And again, this goes back to the stuff I was talking about before.
[41:26.120 --> 41:31.760]  Not that people ask questions, but that people still are willing to be dependent on someone
[41:31.760 --> 41:37.120]  else rather than themselves to their own detriment.
[41:37.120 --> 41:42.280]  I just don't understand that.
[41:42.280 --> 41:50.040]  It's imperative that you take hold of the reins and ride.
[41:50.040 --> 41:52.960]  Because when push comes to shove, you're the only one on the horse.
[41:52.960 --> 41:55.480]  No one else is there to help you.
[41:55.480 --> 41:58.600]  You're going to have to know how to do this.
[41:58.600 --> 42:00.500]  All right.
[42:00.500 --> 42:02.200]  We have another caller up on the board.
[42:02.200 --> 42:03.760]  It is Rob in Illinois.
[42:03.760 --> 42:05.800]  Rob, what can we do for you?
[42:05.800 --> 42:06.800]  Hello, Eddie.
[42:06.800 --> 42:13.120]  I just thought I'd call in and chime in and give you my two cents on that $32 million
[42:13.120 --> 42:16.240]  of profit for the city of Austin, Texas.
[42:16.240 --> 42:18.560]  Now they can no longer claim that they're poor.
[42:18.560 --> 42:23.160]  Isn't it funny how all these municipalities- Oh, sure they can when they got a budget
[42:23.160 --> 42:24.160]  of $500 million.
[42:24.160 --> 42:25.160]  Well, okay then.
[42:25.160 --> 42:26.160]  You got me.
[42:26.160 --> 42:32.360]  And the other thing is I'm going to send you the assistance of council package and you
[42:32.360 --> 42:37.080]  can look it over and post it up on your website and send it out to everybody that you want.
[42:37.080 --> 42:46.120]  It helped out two friends of mine who were in deep doo-doo and it works, but people got
[42:46.120 --> 42:51.080]  to stick to it and it'll help them out because you don't want to waive that right to speedy
[42:51.080 --> 42:52.080]  trial.
[42:52.080 --> 42:58.720]  Yeah, well, you don't want to waive any of the rights you don't have to.
[42:58.720 --> 43:07.040]  In fact, this issue of them denying you council in the first place, especially here in Texas,
[43:07.040 --> 43:16.980]  we have such a strong constitutional argument against that, that it's not even funny because
[43:16.980 --> 43:23.400]  it specifically states in our constitution in all criminal cases.
[43:23.400 --> 43:30.800]  It makes no differentiation between the lowest misdemeanor and the highest felony.
[43:30.800 --> 43:34.320]  It simply says in all criminal cases.
[43:34.320 --> 43:38.280]  Hang on just a second Rob, we're going to take another break and we'll pick this up
[43:38.280 --> 43:39.280]  on the other side.
[43:39.280 --> 43:46.920]  All right, folks, call in number to rule of law radio 512-646-1984.
[43:46.920 --> 43:47.920]  Give us a call.
[43:47.920 --> 43:48.920]  All right.
[43:48.920 --> 43:52.520]  We're going to take a short break and we will be right back to finish Talk of the Rob.
[43:52.520 --> 43:54.920]  So I need some more callers up on the board.
[43:54.920 --> 43:55.920]  Let's go.
[43:55.920 --> 44:00.920]  We'll be right back.
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[46:33.520 --> 46:35.360]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[46:35.360 --> 46:40.040]  All right, we are still talking with Rob in Illinois and I still need some more callers,
[46:40.040 --> 46:41.040]  512-646-1984.
[46:41.040 --> 46:42.040]  All right, Rob, continue.
[46:42.040 --> 46:50.200]  All right, as I was saying before the break that I sent you already, you should have it
[46:50.200 --> 46:55.080]  any second now that Assistance of Counsel package and it was sent to me from somebody
[46:55.080 --> 47:03.000]  else but I put it together with a whole bunch of other documents to give everybody a basis,
[47:03.000 --> 47:08.840]  a definite basis and understanding of where this is coming from and how to properly apply
[47:08.840 --> 47:09.840]  it.
[47:09.840 --> 47:14.200]  I put together a guide to explain step by step how to go through this.
[47:14.200 --> 47:18.520]  So when you get it, Eddie, if you feel like passing it out, anybody interested, you can
[47:18.520 --> 47:29.160]  email me at rob1802 at mail.com, that's rob1802 at mail.com for the Assistance of Counsel
[47:29.160 --> 47:30.160]  package.
[47:30.160 --> 47:34.360]  Like I said before, it helped a couple of friends of mine get out of the trouble that
[47:34.360 --> 47:35.360]  they were in.
[47:35.360 --> 47:39.360]  They had been battling the courts for like a year or even longer and all of a sudden
[47:39.360 --> 47:43.560]  they used this and stopped everything dead in its tracks.
[47:43.560 --> 47:45.280]  Okay.
[47:45.280 --> 47:50.160]  And the key is I talked to another guy who did something similar to this but the thing
[47:50.160 --> 47:52.440]  is he called the attorneys on the phone.
[47:52.440 --> 47:53.720]  You can't call the attorneys.
[47:53.720 --> 47:59.400]  You have to physically go down to the attorney's office and hand them the one-page or two-page
[47:59.400 --> 48:03.800]  Assistance of Counsel contract and that is the offer.
[48:03.800 --> 48:08.760]  You have to make the physical offer to contract with these people because the judge kicked
[48:08.760 --> 48:10.600]  them out and said, oh, you didn't do a good enough job.
[48:10.600 --> 48:13.640]  So you have to visit at least three attorneys.
[48:13.640 --> 48:17.640]  So that's key to all this and that's all explained in the guide.
[48:17.640 --> 48:18.640]  Okay.
[48:18.640 --> 48:19.640]  There you go.
[48:19.640 --> 48:20.640]  All right.
[48:20.640 --> 48:21.640]  Anything else?
[48:21.640 --> 48:22.640]  No, no, that's it.
[48:22.640 --> 48:23.640]  Thanks for having me on.
[48:23.640 --> 48:24.640]  No problem.
[48:24.640 --> 48:25.640]  All right, folks.
[48:25.640 --> 48:35.920]  Now, as I was saying, here in Texas on this Assistance of Counsel issue, not only are
[48:35.920 --> 48:42.160]  they required to provide you Assistance of Counsel for all criminal prosecutions pursuant
[48:42.160 --> 48:50.720]  the Texas Constitution and the Code of Criminal Procedure, but the courts may not alter that
[48:50.720 --> 48:59.140]  right by declaring that just because it doesn't involve jail that the right doesn't exist.
[48:59.140 --> 49:00.480]  And why?
[49:00.480 --> 49:03.320]  Because we covered that too in the Texas Constitution.
[49:03.320 --> 49:09.880]  Article 1, Section 29 says that nothing that any member of government does that violates
[49:09.880 --> 49:14.400]  any part of the Texas Constitution is valid.
[49:14.400 --> 49:17.440]  It's void immediately.
[49:17.440 --> 49:19.520]  It's void.
[49:19.520 --> 49:25.120]  So when the courts declare that we're not entitled to Assistance of Counsel, court-appointed
[49:25.120 --> 49:32.640]  counsel because this doesn't involve jail time, they're going based upon a Supreme Court
[49:32.640 --> 49:36.200]  ruling in relation to the federal Constitution.
[49:36.200 --> 49:44.200]  They are completely ignoring the Texas Constitution on the subject and they can't do that.
[49:44.200 --> 49:51.200]  The federal Constitution does not override the rights that the people of Texas put in
[49:51.200 --> 49:54.920]  place for ourselves in our Constitution.
[49:54.920 --> 50:05.440]  Now, it didn't give us those rights, but if we did use that section to forbid our government
[50:05.440 --> 50:11.740]  from harming those rights or denying us in those rights.
[50:11.740 --> 50:14.880]  So I'm not saying it granted them to us.
[50:14.880 --> 50:19.440]  I'm saying we put it there to protect those rights from exactly this type of abuse by
[50:19.440 --> 50:22.700]  our public servants.
[50:22.700 --> 50:31.840]  This is your first indication that the courts are corrupt at every level because it is the
[50:31.840 --> 50:39.960]  Texas appeals courts that have ruled on the Assistance of Counsel issue and said you're
[50:39.960 --> 50:44.280]  not entitled to it and that's baloney.
[50:44.280 --> 50:48.920]  We didn't give them the power to override the Texas Constitution to deprive us of the
[50:48.920 --> 50:54.640]  right to Assistance of Counsel any more than we gave them the right to override the Constitution
[50:54.640 --> 51:02.380]  on how a court gets proper jurisdiction of a cause of action in a criminal case anyway.
[51:02.380 --> 51:10.240]  The only place where a court has standing or jurisdiction, I'm sorry, in a case of a
[51:10.240 --> 51:19.640]  court, it's jurisdiction, to hear a case is civil, okay?
[51:19.640 --> 51:22.400]  Let me rephrase this where it makes more sense.
[51:22.400 --> 51:28.640]  In relation to a criminal case, the court gets jurisdiction in only two ways.
[51:28.640 --> 51:36.080]  Whereas in a civil case, the court gets jurisdiction allegedly simply because an individual filed
[51:36.080 --> 51:40.880]  a complaint within the court and that complaint is supposed to specify why that court has
[51:40.880 --> 51:43.240]  jurisdiction of the cause.
[51:43.240 --> 51:49.680]  Well in a criminal case, an indictment or information according to Article 5, Section
[51:49.680 --> 51:58.360]  12B of the Texas Constitution is the only way that a court gets jurisdiction of a cause.
[51:58.360 --> 52:04.640]  In fact, 27.01 of the Code of Criminal Procedure is in full compliance with that when it says
[52:04.640 --> 52:09.200]  the primary pleading of the state in a criminal case is the indictment or information.
[52:09.200 --> 52:11.840]  It is not a complaint.
[52:11.840 --> 52:14.640]  It has never been a complaint.
[52:14.640 --> 52:19.520]  Nowhere in the Texas Constitution does it say if an indictment is quashed in the county,
[52:19.520 --> 52:23.760]  then the person can still be prosecuted based upon the complaint alone.
[52:23.760 --> 52:30.440]  No, it says that if the indictment is quashed in the county, then the person can still be
[52:30.440 --> 52:39.180]  tried by the information that was filed along with the indictment.
[52:39.180 --> 52:44.640]  If you follow the steps in the Code of Criminal Procedure and the Texas Constitution one by
[52:44.640 --> 52:50.440]  one, the logical chain of events is this.
[52:50.440 --> 52:53.380]  Someone must wear out a criminal complaint.
[52:53.380 --> 52:55.640]  Now that's not a charging instrument.
[52:55.640 --> 52:58.800]  That is a sworn accusation.
[52:58.800 --> 53:01.400]  There's a difference.
[53:01.400 --> 53:09.320]  That sworn accusation is then given to a magistrate or to an attorney for the state.
[53:09.320 --> 53:14.840]  If the attorney for the state is the one that receives it, they must immediately reduce
[53:14.840 --> 53:20.560]  it to writing in the form of a complaint that has to be signed and verified, and then they
[53:20.560 --> 53:26.400]  have to create an information based upon that complaint.
[53:26.400 --> 53:32.000]  Now Texas Constitution also says that the grand jury shall look into misdemeanors.
[53:32.000 --> 53:38.320]  Again, it does not differentiate as to classification.
[53:38.320 --> 53:45.120]  It simply says that the grand jury shall check or look into misdemeanor cases and hand down
[53:45.120 --> 53:47.600]  indictments therefore.
[53:47.600 --> 53:54.280]  Now, that would mean that the complaint and the information created by the prosecuting
[53:54.280 --> 53:59.920]  attorney or the magistrate who would have turned it over, the complaint over to an attorney
[53:59.920 --> 54:04.040]  for the state, is forwarded to the grand jury.
[54:04.040 --> 54:06.640]  Now why are both of them necessary?
[54:06.640 --> 54:11.520]  Well, because the complaint is simply that.
[54:11.520 --> 54:15.520]  It's a statement that I have reason to believe and do believe that such and such individual
[54:15.520 --> 54:20.820]  committed a crime in this place at this time in this manner.
[54:20.820 --> 54:27.480]  And the information by law is the charging instrument that lays out all of the elements
[54:27.480 --> 54:32.600]  that's required to be proven at trial by the state in a criminal case.
[54:32.600 --> 54:39.000]  There's no criteria in statute whatsoever that the complaint have all of the necessary
[54:39.000 --> 54:41.020]  elements required to be proven.
[54:41.020 --> 54:46.300]  It's not in Chapter 15, it's not in Chapter 45.
[54:46.300 --> 54:55.600]  So the complaint is always legally insufficient in that it is not required to have all of
[54:55.600 --> 54:58.920]  the things required to be proven.
[54:58.920 --> 55:03.640]  Whereas an indictment or information absolutely must have all the things required to be proven
[55:03.640 --> 55:05.640]  at trial.
[55:05.640 --> 55:09.520]  That's why the prosecuting attorney has to lay it down into an information after he gets
[55:09.520 --> 55:11.960]  assigned his former complaint.
[55:11.960 --> 55:17.200]  That's exactly where the grand jury is supposed to say, okay, what evidence or facts do we
[55:17.200 --> 55:24.560]  have to look at that shows that the individual allegedly hit each one of these necessary
[55:24.560 --> 55:27.640]  elements for this charge to be valid?
[55:27.640 --> 55:31.840]  And that's what the grand jury is supposed to investigate into according to Article 5,
[55:31.840 --> 55:34.600]  Section 21 of the Texas Constitution.
[55:34.600 --> 55:40.560]  The grand jury is supposed to look into those misdemeanors, do their investigation and if
[55:40.560 --> 55:48.720]  they find evidence that the crime could have been committed by this person, then they indict.
[55:48.720 --> 55:52.460]  And that indictment goes back to the district court who is then commanded to hand it down
[55:52.460 --> 55:58.560]  to the inferior court having original jurisdiction of the cause.
[55:58.560 --> 56:07.160]  So they have to do that for any type of case, misdemeanor or felony, not just felony.
[56:07.160 --> 56:12.280]  They tried to change Article 1, Section 10 of the Texas Bill of Rights to say that they
[56:12.280 --> 56:20.520]  don't have to have a grand jury indictment for any misdemeanor, any misdemeanor.
[56:20.520 --> 56:22.480]  Get that?
[56:22.480 --> 56:26.840]  The only time they have to try to indict you according to the way they tried to amend Article
[56:26.840 --> 56:32.520]  1, Section 10 is for felonies, otherwise the state and the state's attorney can simply
[56:32.520 --> 56:38.000]  accuse you, try you, convict you and throw you in jail.
[56:38.000 --> 56:47.120]  There ain't nothing fair and impartial about that people, nothing whatsoever.
[56:47.120 --> 56:53.160]  The problem is Article 1, Section 10 is now in direct conflict with Article 5, Section
[56:53.160 --> 57:04.440]  21, where it still says the grand jury shall look into all misdemeanors and hand down indictments
[57:04.440 --> 57:05.440]  therefore.
[57:05.440 --> 57:06.440]  Okay?
[57:06.440 --> 57:12.000]  It doesn't say may, it says shall.
[57:12.000 --> 57:18.080]  Under Chapter 311 Government Code, shall creates a duty.
[57:18.080 --> 57:24.400]  So right there the grand jury has a duty to look into all misdemeanors and hand down indictments
[57:24.400 --> 57:28.280]  for them if they find evidence that the crime was possibly perpetrated by the individual
[57:28.280 --> 57:31.760]  being accused.
[57:31.760 --> 57:37.760]  Then all three of those documents have to be served on the accused.
[57:37.760 --> 57:38.760]  Why?
[57:38.760 --> 57:45.160]  Well, 45.018B specifically gives them the right of having a copy of the complaint before
[57:45.160 --> 57:52.880]  any proceeding, 25.04 Code of Criminal Procedure attempts to violate due process by saying
[57:52.880 --> 57:58.280]  that the state does not have to serve a copy of the indictment or information to the accused.
[57:58.280 --> 58:04.240]  The problem there is that is the only way that the accused gets proper notice of the
[58:04.240 --> 58:10.560]  allegations against them because only those two documents contain the necessary elements
[58:10.560 --> 58:15.800]  required to be proven at trial and thus are the only ones that give proper notice of those
[58:15.800 --> 58:19.680]  elements to the accused.
[58:19.680 --> 58:24.360]  Now this should not be rocket science for a judge or a prosecutor to figure out, but
[58:24.360 --> 58:29.440]  you have to remember our justice system is no longer one of protecting the rights of
[58:29.440 --> 58:30.440]  the people.
[58:30.440 --> 58:34.520]  It's no longer adversarial in its duties and I'll explain that on the other side if we
[58:34.520 --> 58:35.520]  don't have any more callers.
[58:35.520 --> 58:41.760]  Alright folks, this is Rule of Law Radio calling number 512-646-1984.
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[01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:49.720]  Alright folks, we are back.
[01:03:49.720 --> 01:03:51.680]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:03:51.680 --> 01:03:58.880]  Alright, since we still don't have any callers up on the board, 512-646-1984, I'm going to
[01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.840]  continue on with this little dissertation of the way things work here in Texas anyway.
[01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:12.760]  Now when these judges decide to deprive you of these individual rights in violation of
[01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:17.040]  any of the constitutional provisions and Article 1 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, which
[01:04:17.040 --> 01:04:23.360]  is specifically those things that you have a right to under the right of due process,
[01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.040]  they're committing crimes against you.
[01:04:26.040 --> 01:04:32.240]  The whole purpose of what we do is to document those crimes.
[01:04:32.240 --> 01:04:34.880]  Those are your appealable errors.
[01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:42.640]  You're deprived of protected rights under specious or facetious grounds by the courts.
[01:04:42.640 --> 01:04:46.180]  And that just should not be allowed to fly.
[01:04:46.180 --> 01:04:49.040]  So we have to raise that as an issue.
[01:04:49.040 --> 01:04:55.720]  Now even if the courts began to do everything in compliance with the statutes, the due process
[01:04:55.720 --> 01:04:58.600]  violations don't stop there.
[01:04:58.600 --> 01:04:59.600]  Why?
[01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:05.640]  Because most of the convictions they get in relation to anything, but especially the class
[01:05:05.640 --> 01:05:17.360]  C fine onlys, are entirely based on presumptions, not facts.
[01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:20.880]  And what I mean by that is this.
[01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:27.120]  They presume from the very beginning that you are engaging in transportation and that
[01:05:27.120 --> 01:05:31.480]  they have regulatory power over you because of that.
[01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:34.520]  That's the first presumption.
[01:05:34.520 --> 01:05:41.520]  The second presumption is, is that everything you're doing has a commercial nexus via being
[01:05:41.520 --> 01:05:47.880]  a motor vehicle, you being a driver or an operator, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:56.240]  Again, there's no facts proving any of this, it is simply a presumption of application
[01:05:56.240 --> 01:05:57.920]  of the law.
[01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:02.480]  Nothing about it's truthful, but that's beside the point.
[01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:13.360]  Now the other problem is, is that becomes a gross denial of due process in other ways.
[01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:19.720]  The courts have started calling all of these things strict liability statutes, meaning
[01:06:19.720 --> 01:06:25.840]  that the only question before the court is whether or not you actually violated the written
[01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:26.840]  statute.
[01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:34.840]  Well, there's a problem with that manner of trying a case and the manner is the same as
[01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:38.420]  it always has been in such cases.
[01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:43.380]  No one has proved they had standing to bring the allegation.
[01:06:43.380 --> 01:06:50.200]  See the other thing that's always been required in a criminal case is an injured party.
[01:06:50.200 --> 01:06:55.960]  Doesn't matter whether it's a criminal case based upon negligence where the harm was not
[01:06:55.960 --> 01:07:04.220]  intended but it was foreseeable versus a direct intent to cause the harm, which would make
[01:07:04.220 --> 01:07:08.080]  it malamense instead of malamprohibitum.
[01:07:08.080 --> 01:07:17.600]  But the fact is, when they make it in such a manner where the only question is did you
[01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:25.100]  violate the statute and the question is never did the statute actually apply, then it's
[01:07:25.100 --> 01:07:29.840]  already a foregone conclusion you're guilty because the only parameters allowed to be
[01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:35.700]  introduced is does the statute say A, does the statute say B, did the individual do an
[01:07:35.700 --> 01:07:42.040]  action that violated A, did the individual do an action that violated B.
[01:07:42.040 --> 01:07:48.120]  There is absolutely never the opportunity to address the issue of did the statute ever
[01:07:48.120 --> 01:07:52.400]  apply to the individual in the first place.
[01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:57.880]  That's how they've misconstrued strict liability.
[01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:01.960]  The problem again is lack of standing.
[01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:08.920]  State has never proved that you were engaged in an activity to which those statutes applied.
[01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:17.840]  State has never proven that anything you were doing was regulable by them or that the actions
[01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:24.260]  that you allegedly took actually harmed anyone.
[01:08:24.260 --> 01:08:29.720]  This is where the strict liability was brought in for the purpose of revenue generation.
[01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:34.700]  No longer is there a requirement that someone suffered an injury for which they must be
[01:08:34.700 --> 01:08:36.620]  made whole.
[01:08:36.620 --> 01:08:42.120]  Now the entire thing boils down to this for lack of a better way of putting it.
[01:08:42.120 --> 01:08:51.240]  We the state accuse you the individual of this wrongdoing and the only recourse you
[01:08:51.240 --> 01:09:02.160]  have is to go to a predetermined outcome of a trial to argue that you shouldn't have to
[01:09:02.160 --> 01:09:09.120]  pay this where we will find you guilty so that you do have to pay this.
[01:09:09.120 --> 01:09:14.560]  If you fail to appear for that court date or you fail to pay the fine after we declare
[01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:23.080]  you owe it, we claim the right to increase the amount of the fines to incarcerate you
[01:09:23.080 --> 01:09:28.240]  for indeterminate amounts of time despite the fact that we deprived you of your rights
[01:09:28.240 --> 01:09:32.720]  prior to that so that you may not have lost had you had proper legal counsel to defend
[01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:37.320]  you and they've defended you properly.
[01:09:37.320 --> 01:09:45.040]  But if all that fails to get us the money, we reserve the right to shoot you dead.
[01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:58.360]  Now folks, this is the very concept of 1920s, 30s and 40s gangsterism.
[01:09:58.360 --> 01:10:01.640]  This is extortion.
[01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:07.880]  This is extortion by your own public servants.
[01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:17.880]  This is a fundamental alteration of the rights of the people into privileges.
[01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:24.640]  This is where the state declared your right to this, that or the other is not relevant
[01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:35.240]  if we can claim a necessity to generate revenue or to regulate you for our purposes.
[01:10:35.240 --> 01:10:39.240]  You're done.
[01:10:39.240 --> 01:10:45.680]  This is the difference folks between what is lawful and what is legal.
[01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:54.600]  Remember, everything that Hitler did in Germany was legal, wasn't lawful.
[01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:57.360]  But it was legal.
[01:10:57.360 --> 01:11:07.240]  Whereas everything that Schindler did was lawful, but it was illegal.
[01:11:07.240 --> 01:11:09.800]  Now think about that.
[01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:19.080]  You're living in America in name only.
[01:11:19.080 --> 01:11:27.360]  In actuality and reality as to how things are functioning, you're living in Germany
[01:11:27.360 --> 01:11:39.920]  during World War II, and World War I, and World War anything, okay?
[01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.060]  You're no better off.
[01:11:42.060 --> 01:11:46.760]  And yet I hear people every day, America, we're great because we're free.
[01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:47.760]  Really?
[01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:52.000]  And you obviously haven't sat down and taken a tally of exactly what your freedom is tied
[01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:53.840]  to that day.
[01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:55.400]  You want to go get in your car?
[01:11:55.400 --> 01:11:57.800]  Is your car properly licensed by the state?
[01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.120]  Did you pay your taxes on it on time?
[01:12:00.120 --> 01:12:03.720]  Did you get all their fundamental little stickers that says that that car is allowed to be on
[01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:04.720]  the road?
[01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:05.720]  Oh, you did.
[01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:06.720]  Okay, great.
[01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:09.400]  Now, did you get your personal license?
[01:12:09.400 --> 01:12:14.160]  Did you get that to ensure that it was perfectly legal for you to get in that perfectly legal
[01:12:14.160 --> 01:12:17.800]  car and get on that road?
[01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:23.880]  Now, did you also fill it up with gas where you remembered to pay the other taxes to keep
[01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:27.780]  those roads in good shape but they're actually used, that money's used for other purposes
[01:12:27.780 --> 01:12:29.680]  and so on and so forth?
[01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:33.120]  And then when you get down to where you work, they're going to take some more money out
[01:12:33.120 --> 01:12:36.840]  of your paycheck for taxes and so on and so forth.
[01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:40.520]  And while you're at work, you have to obey the company policies on what you can say,
[01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:44.100]  what you can do, how you can dress, who you can talk to, when you can talk to them.
[01:12:44.100 --> 01:12:45.920]  And so on and so forth.
[01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.240]  You also have to be there between a certain number of hours each and every day or you
[01:12:49.240 --> 01:12:51.840]  wind up losing your job.
[01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:57.080]  On your way home, you have to be able to stop and be regulated at every point.
[01:12:57.080 --> 01:13:01.160]  If an officer wants to pull you over, question you, demand your papers, write your citation
[01:13:01.160 --> 01:13:05.040]  so he can get extra money from you, you be sure and provide him with all the things necessary
[01:13:05.040 --> 01:13:06.040]  to do that too.
[01:13:06.040 --> 01:13:07.040]  All right?
[01:13:07.040 --> 01:13:12.840]  And it just goes on and on and on.
[01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:20.080]  Everything you do is taxed or there's a fine or a fee or a license or a permit associated
[01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:22.240]  with it.
[01:13:22.240 --> 01:13:25.280]  Every thing.
[01:13:25.280 --> 01:13:30.080]  And that includes some things that you do inside of your own home.
[01:13:30.080 --> 01:13:35.680]  For instance, in states where they require you to register your guns if they're, you
[01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:41.200]  know, you're licensing your gun to the state so that they can come and collect it when
[01:13:41.200 --> 01:13:43.840]  they want to.
[01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:46.400]  That's all you're doing.
[01:13:46.400 --> 01:13:50.640]  But you needed their permission or you broke the law.
[01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.600]  What you did with the gun was illegal.
[01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:57.760]  It was lawful, but it was illegal.
[01:13:57.760 --> 01:13:58.760]  Learn the difference, folks.
[01:13:58.760 --> 01:13:59.760]  All right.
[01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:02.040]  We got a couple of callers up on the board.
[01:14:02.040 --> 01:14:04.160]  First one up is Sharon in Texas.
[01:14:04.160 --> 01:14:06.400]  Sharon, what can we do for you?
[01:14:06.400 --> 01:14:12.800]  Yes, I'm calling regarding my son a post-criminal trial.
[01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:17.640]  And during that trial, before the trial, he had requested with numerous letters to the
[01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:21.680]  judge requesting another court-appointed attorney.
[01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:26.680]  And I'm just trying to understand why he was not allowed to get another court-appointed
[01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:27.760]  attorney.
[01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:31.280]  What is he charged with?
[01:14:31.280 --> 01:14:34.100]  First degree.
[01:14:34.100 --> 01:14:35.760]  First degree what?
[01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:36.760]  Yeah.
[01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:37.760]  Okay.
[01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:43.520]  So they're going to try to convict him without an attorney?
[01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:51.960]  He has an attorney, but the relationship between the attorneys was so distant and so bad that
[01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:57.720]  the attorney wouldn't go back out there to see him because there were choice words made.
[01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:03.640]  And he kept writing to the judge talking about how the communication between them was severed
[01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:04.640]  so bad.
[01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:08.080]  Okay, who wrote the judge, your son or the attorney?
[01:15:08.080 --> 01:15:09.080]  The judge.
[01:15:09.080 --> 01:15:14.160]  I mean, my son did, wrote that he was in jail.
[01:15:14.160 --> 01:15:15.960]  Okay.
[01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:20.000]  And she refused to grant him another attorney.
[01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:29.240]  Well, he, did he file for indigency to get the attorney?
[01:15:29.240 --> 01:15:31.240]  Yes.
[01:15:31.240 --> 01:15:33.560]  And the judge denied that?
[01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:35.040]  Right.
[01:15:35.040 --> 01:15:40.680]  She denied him getting a court-appointed attorney.
[01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:50.000]  And because the relationship between the two of them was so bad, they just couldn't communicate
[01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:51.760]  at all.
[01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:56.280]  And when we went to court, the DA pretty much had his body in the courtroom.
[01:15:56.280 --> 01:15:57.280]  Well.
[01:15:57.280 --> 01:16:05.760]  So he's on, he's on an appeal and we do have an appeal and the appeal attorney didn't find
[01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:15.440]  any illegal things, but there were probably some frivolous incidents, you know, that could
[01:16:15.440 --> 01:16:17.160]  be addressed.
[01:16:17.160 --> 01:16:23.640]  But I don't have the money to pay for an attorney for him to take this back to court, you know,
[01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.400]  on the appeal if it's, if it's heard.
[01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:27.400]  Yeah.
[01:16:27.400 --> 01:16:37.040]  Well, the problem is if you, if you've already been stuck for an attorney, then there's not
[01:16:37.040 --> 01:16:39.000]  going to be a whole lot you can do in that regard.
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.120]  You're going to have to deal with the hand you've been dealt so far.
[01:16:44.120 --> 01:16:49.520]  But you can judicially conduct, complain the judge for depriving them of the right to counsel
[01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:52.960]  because they better have a good reason for that and they normally don't.
[01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:53.960]  Hang on, Sharon.
[01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:54.960]  We're going to take a break.
[01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:56.600]  We'll cover this on the other side.
[01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:57.600]  We'll be right back, folks.
[01:16:57.600 --> 01:16:58.600]  So y'all hang in there.
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[01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:07.720]  This is the Logos Radio Network.
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[01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:41.400]  All right, folks.
[01:19:41.400 --> 01:19:42.400]  We are back.
[01:19:42.400 --> 01:19:45.720]  This is the Logos Radio and we are talking with Sharon in Texas.
[01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:46.720]  All right, Sharon.
[01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:47.720]  Yes.
[01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:56.960]  At the trials, they also brought in extraneous acts and that's pretty much what they hammered
[01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:57.960]  him on.
[01:19:57.960 --> 01:19:58.960]  Okay.
[01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:00.920]  Well, what do you mean by extraneous acts?
[01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:07.680]  Well, they pulled in every test that he's ever done in his lifetime and hammered in
[01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:08.680]  that.
[01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:13.640]  You know, I just was so disturbed by what was done in there.
[01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:14.640]  Okay.
[01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:22.120]  The only time they're allowed to do that is if they're trying for a conviction enhancement
[01:20:22.120 --> 01:20:24.760]  for something he's already been convicted of before.
[01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:25.760]  Right.
[01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:26.760]  That's right.
[01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:31.120]  And had served time for, you know, misdemeanors, you know, and maybe-
[01:20:31.120 --> 01:20:32.120]  No, no, no.
[01:20:32.120 --> 01:20:37.200]  It has to be for something that they are actually charging him with right now.
[01:20:37.200 --> 01:20:43.320]  If they're bringing up prior acts that have nothing to do with the act at hand and cannot
[01:20:43.320 --> 01:20:49.400]  be used to enhance it, then that's prejudicial and that should have been objected to.
[01:20:49.400 --> 01:20:52.520]  Well, it wasn't.
[01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:53.520]  It wasn't.
[01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:54.520]  That's my concern.
[01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:59.680]  Then that's why we wanted to get a different attorney because it was allowed to be brought
[01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:06.000]  up, all kinds of stuff that had nothing to do with the case at hand.
[01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:09.680]  And yeah, that's definitely an appealable error that should have been raised.
[01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:10.680]  Yeah.
[01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:14.680]  And they stuck it big time.
[01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:20.040]  I've just been so upset that I have to leave the courtroom because I couldn't believe what
[01:21:20.040 --> 01:21:21.040]  was being said.
[01:21:21.040 --> 01:21:25.640]  Well, they don't make money by letting you go.
[01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:32.080]  Oh, well, I just found it rather shocking.
[01:21:32.080 --> 01:21:36.480]  That was my first experience with a trial and I hope I never have to go to another.
[01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:39.600]  I never even want to be on one as a juror.
[01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:40.600]  Yeah.
[01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:45.520]  What you need to do, if you want to verify all the ways that they messed up to give him
[01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:50.640]  an appeal and to make the argument that he had ineffective assistance of counsel, you
[01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:53.280]  need to review the Texas Rules of Evidence.
[01:21:53.280 --> 01:21:54.280]  Okay.
[01:21:54.280 --> 01:21:55.280]  Okay.
[01:21:55.280 --> 01:22:01.800]  And when you look in there, look for prior convictions or things of that nature and you'll
[01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.440]  probably find that it deals only with enhancement.
[01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:06.440]  Okay.
[01:22:06.440 --> 01:22:13.600]  All right, I'll do that because this needs to be revisited.
[01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:16.840]  Well, good luck.
[01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:17.840]  Thank you so much.
[01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:18.840]  You're welcome.
[01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:19.840]  Bye-bye.
[01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:20.840]  Bye-bye.
[01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:21.840]  All right.
[01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:25.000]  Now, we're going to go to Aaron in Texas.
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:26.480]  Aaron, what can we do for you?
[01:22:26.480 --> 01:22:27.480]  Hey, Eddie.
[01:22:27.480 --> 01:22:32.080]  I was just going to touch on some of the points you've made earlier.
[01:22:32.080 --> 01:22:36.680]  One about the, you know, we've got the registration sticker, the inspection sticker in addition
[01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:37.680]  to the license.
[01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:43.120]  And secondly, on things such as property tax, it seems that they've taken two rights, first
[01:22:43.120 --> 01:22:48.240]  being travel and the second being shelter, and turned them not only into privileges but
[01:22:48.240 --> 01:22:52.040]  privileges that you have to pay for.
[01:22:52.040 --> 01:22:54.240]  Well, that's correct.
[01:22:54.240 --> 01:22:59.400]  But the thing about it is, is it's not just a matter of shelter.
[01:22:59.400 --> 01:23:05.800]  The happiness part of the right to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,
[01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:10.340]  the happiness part has always been ruled by the federal courts and the Supreme Court to
[01:23:10.340 --> 01:23:15.400]  include the right to acquire, use and dispose of property.
[01:23:15.400 --> 01:23:16.400]  Right.
[01:23:16.400 --> 01:23:18.720]  That's part of the pursuit of happiness.
[01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:22.720]  Well, if that's a right, they can't tax a right.
[01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:26.120]  They can't attach a fee to a right.
[01:23:26.120 --> 01:23:31.960]  What they've actually tried to do is to convert everything into a commercial nexus entity
[01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:37.520]  that they can have taxing and regulatory authority over.
[01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:41.040]  And that's what we're not stopping, is we're not stopping them from doing it.
[01:23:41.040 --> 01:23:42.040]  Yeah.
[01:23:42.040 --> 01:23:49.560]  I've heard a guy, I think, I don't know if he was on Logos, but I know he was on 90.1,
[01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:55.280]  talking about property tax, if you basically put it back on the tax assessor or the tax
[01:23:55.280 --> 01:24:00.920]  office and ask them to prove how you're making income from your property so they can tax
[01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:06.400]  it, you're actually, it's not lawful nor legal, I guess, in the tax code.
[01:24:06.400 --> 01:24:07.400]  I don't know this.
[01:24:07.400 --> 01:24:08.400]  I was wondering if you had...
[01:24:08.400 --> 01:24:09.400]  Yeah.
[01:24:09.400 --> 01:24:10.400]  That's part of it.
[01:24:10.400 --> 01:24:14.160]  The other part of it is the fact that they don't do an on-site inspection of the property,
[01:24:14.160 --> 01:24:17.600]  even if it is commercial, in order to make a valid assessment.
[01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:20.440]  They're just cooking up numbers out of the blue sky.
[01:24:20.440 --> 01:24:27.400]  And that's not what the law allows or requires them to do, but it is what they're doing.
[01:24:27.400 --> 01:24:32.040]  Nobody in government is doing anything in accordance with law, absolutely not the dogcatcher
[01:24:32.040 --> 01:24:35.120]  clean up to the mayor or the governor.
[01:24:35.120 --> 01:24:38.960]  Nobody is doing what they're supposed to do in accordance with the law, which is just
[01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:39.960]  proof positive.
[01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:44.000]  There's too damn many of them, and they're written too badly for people to even want
[01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.920]  to mess with, including those that they actually bind.
[01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:48.920]  Right.
[01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:56.960]  Well, similar to the work that you've done on traffic codes, do you know any good sources
[01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:00.240]  of information for like tax code, property tax code, et cetera?
[01:25:00.240 --> 01:25:06.760]  Well, you're talking about them, both codes, the Texas Constitution, all of the prior versions
[01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:11.520]  of the Texas Constitution, read any and all of that.
[01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:17.240]  All of that makes it very clear that private property is not taxable, never has been taxable,
[01:25:17.240 --> 01:25:23.080]  not unless the person voluntarily renders it for the purpose of funding a government
[01:25:23.080 --> 01:25:24.080]  project.
[01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:25.080]  Okay.
[01:25:25.080 --> 01:25:31.760]  So how would you go about like drafting, you know, what would be the procedure to kind
[01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:32.760]  of...
[01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:37.520]  That's way more than I can get into on the air any amount of time I got.
[01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:38.840]  Okay.
[01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:46.440]  And again, there is no set procedure because there's nothing in the law that gives you
[01:25:46.440 --> 01:25:49.800]  a procedure for properly contesting what they're doing.
[01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:53.880]  The only real procedure you have is to sue their butts.
[01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:54.880]  Okay.
[01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:55.880]  Cool.
[01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:56.880]  Yeah.
[01:25:56.880 --> 01:25:57.880]  Just, I think...
[01:25:57.880 --> 01:25:58.880]  Yeah.
[01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:02.040]  Well, I love the show, and thanks for all the work that you guys are doing because you
[01:26:02.040 --> 01:26:07.960]  really opened up people's eyes and kind of reminded us that we need to, you know, understand
[01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:08.960]  the law.
[01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:09.960]  Well, appreciate it.
[01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:10.960]  Kudos.
[01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:11.960]  Cool.
[01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:12.960]  Thanks, y'all.
[01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:13.960]  All right.
[01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:14.960]  Bye.
[01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:15.960]  Bye.
[01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:16.960]  All right.
[01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:18.960]  Now we're going to go to Kenneth in Michigan.
[01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:19.960]  Kenneth?
[01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:20.960]  Yeah.
[01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:21.960]  Eddie.
[01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:22.960]  Yes, sir.
[01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:23.960]  Hey, thanks for having me on.
[01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:24.960]  Sure.
[01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:25.960]  I have a question for you.
[01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:26.960]  Okay.
[01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:37.680]  I have received a citation about a month ago for not having a plate on my personal car
[01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:44.400]  while I was exercising my right to travel.
[01:26:44.400 --> 01:26:53.080]  Long story short, went through the whole traffic spew there, took it to court, challenged the
[01:26:53.080 --> 01:26:54.080]  jurisdiction.
[01:26:54.080 --> 01:26:56.360]  They failed to prove jurisdiction on the record.
[01:26:56.360 --> 01:27:02.760]  So now I'm trying to set up for my appeal.
[01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:08.480]  My question is, is there a difference between a claim of appeal and a notice of appeal?
[01:27:08.480 --> 01:27:14.440]  Well, I don't know what you mean by a difference.
[01:27:14.440 --> 01:27:20.280]  The word claim and the word notice, there's definitely a difference in those two.
[01:27:20.280 --> 01:27:25.900]  But now in relation to the procedure you're about to try to undertake here, whatever that
[01:27:25.900 --> 01:27:28.880]  may actually be, I don't know.
[01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:29.880]  Right.
[01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:38.640]  Well, I'm trying to file a notice of appeal to the district court before I can go to the
[01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:39.640]  circuit court.
[01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:46.320]  Well, a notice of appeal simply tells the trial court that you intend to exercise your
[01:27:46.320 --> 01:27:48.280]  right of appeal.
[01:27:48.280 --> 01:27:49.280]  Okay?
[01:27:49.280 --> 01:27:50.280]  Yep.
[01:27:50.280 --> 01:27:57.120]  Whereas after that, here in Texas, they call it an appeal brief.
[01:27:57.120 --> 01:28:01.080]  You have to file two things with the trial court, notice of appeal and a motion for new
[01:28:01.080 --> 01:28:03.460]  trial and not in that order.
[01:28:03.460 --> 01:28:10.560]  You file the motion for new trial first and then technically if they're going to follow
[01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:18.820]  due process, they have to reply and deny the motion for new trial and then you send in
[01:28:18.820 --> 01:28:20.840]  your notice of appeal.
[01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:23.260]  But sometimes they don't do it that way here.
[01:28:23.260 --> 01:28:30.400]  They actually have you do both of them at the same time even though that's not proper.
[01:28:30.400 --> 01:28:36.720]  And then once you take the appeal up, you file an appeal brief.
[01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:43.560]  It's not filed anything I've ever seen saying a claim or anything like that.
[01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:49.800]  But then again, I don't know from what era that might actually be applicable if it was
[01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:51.280]  ever applicable.
[01:28:51.280 --> 01:28:53.960]  It's not something I'm familiar with.
[01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:54.960]  Okay.
[01:28:54.960 --> 01:29:06.080]  Yeah, just a little stump because under the Michigan court rules that I downloaded, I
[01:29:06.080 --> 01:29:11.360]  guess I was just having a little brain fart of what the difference would be of the claim
[01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:13.640]  of the appeal to the notice.
[01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:20.600]  Well, if all you're doing, depending upon how they're defining claim, you are noticing
[01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:25.560]  the trial court of your intent to appeal and then you would, depending upon which court
[01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:29.000]  you file it in, you are claiming your appeal.
[01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:35.120]  Now if it was logical, the claim would be filed in the court to which your appeal is
[01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:37.080]  to go.
[01:29:37.080 --> 01:29:42.120]  You're claiming your right of appeal because you already noticed the other courts you were
[01:29:42.120 --> 01:29:43.560]  going to do that.
[01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:45.720]  That would be if it's logical.
[01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:47.960]  Whether or not that's proper in Michigan, I don't know.
[01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:50.880]  You're going to have to check the statutes.
[01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:51.880]  Okay.
[01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:52.880]  All right.
[01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:53.880]  All right.
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[01:33:59.280 --> 01:34:01.440]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:34:01.440 --> 01:34:05.480]  All right, we are talking to Kenneth in Michigan.
[01:34:05.480 --> 01:34:09.760]  All right, Kenneth, go ahead.
[01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:18.560]  So I should file my Notice of Appeal with the District Court.
[01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:23.400]  I tried filing my Notice of Appeal with the District Court, and they wanted nothing to
[01:34:23.400 --> 01:34:24.400]  do with it.
[01:34:24.400 --> 01:34:30.040]  They just tried chewing me away, and they sent me over to the Circuit Court.
[01:34:30.040 --> 01:34:35.520]  Well, where does the statute tell you to file it?
[01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:42.960]  Coming from the court you were in, what court has appellate jurisdiction from the court
[01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:45.720]  that you were in?
[01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:46.720]  Circuit Court.
[01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:50.560]  Okay, then that's why you can't file it in the District Court.
[01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:57.920]  But as to my understanding through all this, I had to give notice to the District Court
[01:34:57.920 --> 01:34:59.840]  letting them know that I was going to appeal it.
[01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:04.520]  How would you have to give notice to a court that does not have jurisdiction of the case
[01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:08.120]  you're appealing?
[01:35:08.120 --> 01:35:10.560]  Where did you get that idea?
[01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:16.680]  Well, it's just stuff that I've been reading.
[01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:20.320]  Okay, reading from where?
[01:35:20.320 --> 01:35:24.160]  Through some of our MCR rules.
[01:35:24.160 --> 01:35:31.160]  It's very complicated for me to read, so that's why I'm calling and asking you.
[01:35:31.160 --> 01:35:34.200]  But I got fines on top of this.
[01:35:34.200 --> 01:35:37.760]  So I didn't know if I had to give them the notice.
[01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:38.760]  So that way...
[01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:43.960]  You have to give, like I said, logically, you have to give notice to the court that
[01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:46.280]  has appellate jurisdiction.
[01:35:46.280 --> 01:35:51.840]  And if what you told me is correct, that's the Circuit Court, not the District Court,
[01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:55.680]  which is why they want nothing to do with it.
[01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:56.680]  Okay.
[01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:57.680]  All right.
[01:35:57.680 --> 01:35:58.680]  It makes sense.
[01:35:58.680 --> 01:35:59.680]  It really does.
[01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:04.680]  I just wanted to cover myself on that.
[01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:12.200]  Well, the best way you're going to cover yourself is to read the rules on how the appeals process
[01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:17.240]  flows from where you were to where you're going next.
[01:36:17.240 --> 01:36:18.960]  Because I don't live in Michigan.
[01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:22.720]  I haven't studied Michigan law well enough to sit here and tell you, yeah, this is how
[01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:24.280]  it works in Michigan.
[01:36:24.280 --> 01:36:27.600]  You're going to have to find that out.
[01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:31.960]  Well, I understand that.
[01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:39.400]  It's just I got a little confused because they're saying that I had to give notice to
[01:36:39.400 --> 01:36:42.440]  the court where the judgment was entered.
[01:36:42.440 --> 01:36:45.400]  Well, that's the trial court.
[01:36:45.400 --> 01:36:50.040]  You give them notice of your intent to appeal.
[01:36:50.040 --> 01:36:54.520]  Then you claim the right of appeal at the Circuit Court.
[01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:55.520]  Okay.
[01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:57.520]  All right.
[01:36:57.520 --> 01:36:58.520]  Okay.
[01:36:58.520 --> 01:36:59.520]  Yep.
[01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:08.600]  Another question for you here, would it be wise for me to send by mail a notice of appeal
[01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:13.680]  to the judge and the prosecuting attorney?
[01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:15.680]  Of which court?
[01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:17.840]  Of the district court?
[01:37:17.840 --> 01:37:22.400]  No, the district court doesn't have jurisdiction.
[01:37:22.400 --> 01:37:26.680]  Why do you keep trying to go to the district court?
[01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:30.440]  All right.
[01:37:30.440 --> 01:37:31.440]  I don't know.
[01:37:31.440 --> 01:37:32.440]  I'm just...
[01:37:32.440 --> 01:37:39.320]  I guess my thought...
[01:37:39.320 --> 01:37:47.760]  Your notice of appeal goes to the trial court, the court you're coming from.
[01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:51.760]  Got it?
[01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:52.760]  I got it.
[01:37:52.760 --> 01:37:53.760]  Okay.
[01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:54.760]  I got it.
[01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:55.760]  Anything else?
[01:37:55.760 --> 01:38:08.240]  Well, another thing is that when I was filing some of my stuff before my bench trial, I
[01:38:08.240 --> 01:38:13.440]  had demanded a trial by jury.
[01:38:13.440 --> 01:38:21.560]  Of course, the judge denied that because she said that it was a civil case, but everything
[01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:25.280]  that I've been getting is leading to criminal.
[01:38:25.280 --> 01:38:33.360]  I'm getting timestamps and that's the true copies from a criminal court.
[01:38:33.360 --> 01:38:36.000]  Is that something that I can put in my appeal?
[01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:37.000]  Okay.
[01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:42.280]  Do you not look to see how these cases are classified in Michigan?
[01:38:42.280 --> 01:38:45.760]  They're wishy-washy.
[01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:48.440]  They go from civil to criminal.
[01:38:48.440 --> 01:38:50.640]  Well, they can't mix the two.
[01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:55.000]  Despite what they want you to believe, they can't mix the two.
[01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:57.720]  Okay?
[01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:03.620]  There's no such thing as quasi-criminal jurisdiction.
[01:39:03.620 --> 01:39:12.800]  And anywhere in statute or your state constitution where the word quasi exists in relation to
[01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:22.720]  anything, much less criminal jurisdiction.
[01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:29.560]  So it's one or it's the other, but it can't be both.
[01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:35.520]  Well, I understand that.
[01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:44.440]  It's just to my understanding, they were wanting to go at this as a criminal act.
[01:39:44.440 --> 01:39:48.720]  Where did you get the understanding you're operating on, Kenneth?
[01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:53.040]  It was through the Michigan-complied laws.
[01:39:53.040 --> 01:39:54.040]  Compiled laws?
[01:39:54.040 --> 01:39:55.040]  Yep.
[01:39:55.040 --> 01:39:56.040]  Okay.
[01:39:56.040 --> 01:40:06.520]  And it was stating that anybody that doesn't have a person who operates a vehicle license
[01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:12.880]  under the international registration plan and doesn't have a valid registration is guilty
[01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:16.880]  of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days.
[01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:21.800]  Well, if it's punishable by imprisonment, it's not civil, is it?
[01:40:21.800 --> 01:40:22.800]  Right.
[01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:23.800]  Right.
[01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:30.680]  So that was my question is that, is this something that I want to use in my appeal?
[01:40:30.680 --> 01:40:35.960]  Because I demanded a trial by jury because I knew that they were acting, they were treating...
[01:40:35.960 --> 01:40:42.840]  Well, first you need to verify what type of case it is.
[01:40:42.840 --> 01:40:47.680]  Is it civil or is it criminal?
[01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:55.200]  But regardless, you have the right to a jury trial, even in a civil case, if the amount
[01:40:55.200 --> 01:40:57.440]  at issue exceeds $20.
[01:40:57.440 --> 01:40:58.440]  Right.
[01:40:58.440 --> 01:40:59.440]  Yep.
[01:40:59.440 --> 01:41:02.040]  That's why I did the demand.
[01:41:02.040 --> 01:41:03.040]  Okay.
[01:41:03.040 --> 01:41:09.480]  So, yeah, that's an appealable error if the judge denied you a jury trial.
[01:41:09.480 --> 01:41:11.080]  Okay.
[01:41:11.080 --> 01:41:18.080]  Well, the reason why I was asking this is because I've set this all up for the appeal
[01:41:18.080 --> 01:41:23.520]  because I knew that they weren't going to approve jurisdiction on the record.
[01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:29.320]  I just didn't know if I should be adding more stuff in there along with the appeal for...
[01:41:29.320 --> 01:41:35.160]  Well, that depends on what did the other side ever file in the case.
[01:41:35.160 --> 01:41:41.040]  As far as what?
[01:41:41.040 --> 01:41:42.360]  Anything.
[01:41:42.360 --> 01:41:47.760]  What documents did the other side ever file in the case?
[01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:49.480]  Just the ticket.
[01:41:49.480 --> 01:41:50.840]  Just the ticket.
[01:41:50.840 --> 01:42:02.800]  So, no one made any claim in a civil case of a breach of contract.
[01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:10.560]  And no one ever filed any pleadings alleging a contract existed or that you had violated
[01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:14.240]  the terms of that contract to which you were a party.
[01:42:14.240 --> 01:42:16.240]  Is this what I'm hearing?
[01:42:16.240 --> 01:42:17.240]  Yep.
[01:42:17.240 --> 01:42:18.240]  Okay.
[01:42:18.240 --> 01:42:21.200]  And you didn't move for summary judgment.
[01:42:21.200 --> 01:42:22.200]  Why?
[01:42:22.200 --> 01:42:27.960]  What do you mean by moving for summary judgment?
[01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:34.520]  Well, if the state didn't prove these things at trial, then state failed to prove its case.
[01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:38.680]  If state failed to prove its case, you're entitled to summary judgment in favor of the
[01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:39.680]  defense.
[01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:40.680]  Right.
[01:42:40.680 --> 01:42:48.040]  Well, during the bench trial, I did move the courts to dismiss the case for failing to
[01:42:48.040 --> 01:42:51.120]  prove jurisdiction on the record.
[01:42:51.120 --> 01:42:57.040]  Well, rather than challenging just jurisdiction, you should have also been challenging standing
[01:42:57.040 --> 01:42:59.760]  of the other party.
[01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:04.560]  All of this goes to lack of standing on part of the other party.
[01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:06.520]  Okay.
[01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:14.720]  Now, if one party does not have standing to bring a suit, then the court automatically
[01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:19.600]  lacks subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:29.960]  Now, lucky for you, that jurisdiction is appealable at any point.
[01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:35.080]  Just because you didn't raise it at trial does not prohibit you from raising it on appeal.
[01:43:35.080 --> 01:43:41.960]  So, you better start doing your research for Michigan lack of jurisdiction and lack of
[01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:42.960]  standing.
[01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:43.960]  Okay.
[01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:44.960]  Okay.
[01:43:44.960 --> 01:43:45.960]  Yes.
[01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:46.960]  Yes, I will.
[01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:47.960]  All right.
[01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:48.960]  All right.
[01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:51.440]  Now, I got another caller in the next segment, so I'm going to let you go, Kenneth.
[01:43:51.440 --> 01:43:52.440]  All right.
[01:43:52.440 --> 01:43:53.440]  All right.
[01:43:53.440 --> 01:43:54.440]  You have a good night.
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[01:46:28.040 --> 01:46:29.040]  All right.
[01:46:29.040 --> 01:46:30.040]  Let's see.
[01:46:30.040 --> 01:46:33.520]  I don't know who this caller is.
[01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:35.680]  Air code 702.
[01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:36.680]  Who do we got there?
[01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:37.680]  Hi.
[01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:38.680]  My name's Steve.
[01:46:38.680 --> 01:46:39.680]  Hi, Steve.
[01:46:39.680 --> 01:46:40.680]  What can we do for you?
[01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:41.680]  I'm calling you back.
[01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:48.600]  I'm a guy from Vegas that had a ticket.
[01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:56.280]  I went in today to file an affidavit, and I ended up with a hearing before the magistrate,
[01:46:56.280 --> 01:47:04.360]  and the first thing I did was file the affidavit, and she asked me, how do I plea, to which
[01:47:04.360 --> 01:47:05.360]  I refused to plea.
[01:47:05.360 --> 01:47:11.200]  I said, I just gave you the affidavit, reserving my rights.
[01:47:11.200 --> 01:47:20.840]  She went ahead and scheduled a hearing coming up about 45 days out or so, and...
[01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:21.840]  Hearing for?
[01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:22.840]  That's what I asked.
[01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:32.360]  I said, this is my preliminary hearing, and she told me that those are only for felony
[01:47:32.360 --> 01:47:40.720]  charges, to which I replied that, you know, the statutes say differently, and so she scheduled
[01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:49.960]  the preliminary hearing, and said my witness would be there, so...
[01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:59.440]  And then after that, it was kind of funny to see how her mood changed.
[01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:02.760]  She was fairly friendly at front, and then...
[01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:04.940]  Okay, Steve, talk into your phone.
[01:48:04.940 --> 01:48:06.560]  You keep fading out.
[01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:07.560]  I'm sorry.
[01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:16.400]  It was kind of funny to see how her mood changed, you know, when I didn't let her just run me
[01:48:16.400 --> 01:48:27.400]  through the grinder there, but I have a preliminary hearing coming up, and after that, then I went
[01:48:27.400 --> 01:48:35.000]  ahead and I also had a complaint that I wanted to file against the officer for basically
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:45.040]  citing a fraudulent ticket, issuing a fraudulent citation, and she tried to tell me that they
[01:48:45.040 --> 01:48:54.720]  don't accept those, to which I kind of reminded her of her duties as a magistrate, and she
[01:48:54.720 --> 01:48:57.720]  did take that, so...
[01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:04.720]  It was kind of empowering, I think, you know, I guess having some idea.
[01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:08.880]  But now I'm going ahead here.
[01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:16.920]  I guess I have to do some research on preliminary hearings and seeing where to go next.
[01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:21.120]  Well, sounds like you're doing good so far.
[01:49:21.120 --> 01:49:28.160]  Yeah, so any ideas on or anything I should...
[01:49:28.160 --> 01:49:31.480]  What exactly is supposed to take place at this preliminary hearing?
[01:49:31.480 --> 01:49:35.680]  Well, that's the probable cause hearing.
[01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:44.640]  So I'm supposed to face my witness against me, and that's when I'd be, I guess, bound
[01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.720]  over for court or whatnot.
[01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:51.560]  Yeah, if they find probable cause.
[01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:57.480]  Now you said you had a witness adverse to their case?
[01:49:57.480 --> 01:50:02.480]  No, no, the officer would actually be the witness.
[01:50:02.480 --> 01:50:07.280]  Honestly, I'm hoping he doesn't show.
[01:50:07.280 --> 01:50:14.720]  Okay, well, if he does not show, don't forget to request a dismissal for lack of evidence.
[01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:18.880]  Okay, that's what I would say, for lack of evidence.
[01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:20.160]  Yeah, there is no...
[01:50:20.160 --> 01:50:21.160]  There's no...
[01:50:21.160 --> 01:50:26.600]  How can you find probable cause when there's no evidence submitted to you?
[01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:33.360]  And I've not been given a chance to determine any admissibility of evidence or testimony.
[01:50:33.360 --> 01:50:36.120]  So flex your rights.
[01:50:36.120 --> 01:50:37.440]  Okay.
[01:50:37.440 --> 01:50:42.960]  And is there anything else?
[01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:43.960]  What I was...
[01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:54.800]  Honestly, what I was thinking of doing is challenging the judge's standing, basically,
[01:50:54.800 --> 01:51:01.000]  but the argument that, you know, how did this witness show up against me and to state that
[01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:05.800]  the judge is basically working for the prosecution because they're the ones who contacted him
[01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:06.800]  to...
[01:51:06.800 --> 01:51:09.000]  Well, but how do you know that?
[01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:10.320]  Well, that's...
[01:51:10.320 --> 01:51:16.520]  Actually, I plan on putting in a phone call or so to the court.
[01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:20.920]  That phone call is not admissible.
[01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:22.920]  Okay.
[01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:30.280]  Now, you can testify you made one, but it's just a matter of whether or not anybody believes
[01:51:30.280 --> 01:51:31.280]  you.
[01:51:31.280 --> 01:51:32.280]  Okay.
[01:51:32.280 --> 01:51:38.920]  Yes, I believe I can testify on my own.
[01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:41.480]  Now, you can testify.
[01:51:41.480 --> 01:51:49.720]  There's no question you can testify, but I'm still trying to figure out what it is exactly
[01:51:49.720 --> 01:51:53.520]  you're going this route for.
[01:51:53.520 --> 01:52:02.320]  What is it you're expecting the officer to do for you?
[01:52:02.320 --> 01:52:09.480]  Probably nothing, but I literally, I just thought, I don't know, the odds are better
[01:52:09.480 --> 01:52:12.680]  with them having to show up twice, but he's not going to make it.
[01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:13.680]  Okay.
[01:52:13.680 --> 01:52:15.440]  That is no reason to do this.
[01:52:15.440 --> 01:52:18.040]  Let me explain something to you here.
[01:52:18.040 --> 01:52:19.600]  Okay.
[01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:29.060]  Every single time you do something without a clue how, why, or if it should be done,
[01:52:29.060 --> 01:52:34.280]  you make it that much harder for the next person behind you to exercise their rights
[01:52:34.280 --> 01:52:37.200]  properly even if they know what they're doing.
[01:52:37.200 --> 01:52:42.600]  See, the reason the judge told you the things that she told you was because they're so used
[01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:47.280]  to pro-says not knowing what the hell they're doing that they wouldn't know any better.
[01:52:47.280 --> 01:52:51.480]  Now you've raised the issue that I know I'm entitled to it, but now you're going to go
[01:52:51.480 --> 01:52:55.080]  in and display the fact that even though you've got it, you don't have a clue what to do with
[01:52:55.080 --> 01:52:56.560]  it.
[01:52:56.560 --> 01:53:01.920]  See, the problem that creates all the way around, not just for you, but everybody that
[01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:04.520]  comes behind you.
[01:53:04.520 --> 01:53:12.480]  So, at the hearing, how should I approach it, just basically?
[01:53:12.480 --> 01:53:14.880]  Well, first off, I don't know what you've been charged with.
[01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:15.880]  You haven't said.
[01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:16.880]  I'm sorry.
[01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:19.560]  It was just a speeding ticket.
[01:53:19.560 --> 01:53:20.560]  Okay.
[01:53:20.560 --> 01:53:23.720]  I'm fairly happy with you on that.
[01:53:23.720 --> 01:53:24.720]  Which state is this in?
[01:53:24.720 --> 01:53:26.640]  This is in Nevada.
[01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:32.040]  In Nevada, okay.
[01:53:32.040 --> 01:53:42.120]  What have you learned about the traffic citations in Nevada as far as who they apply to?
[01:53:42.120 --> 01:53:45.900]  We have it a little differently here where we don't have a transportation code.
[01:53:45.900 --> 01:53:49.320]  We have what are called traffic laws generally.
[01:53:49.320 --> 01:53:57.880]  So, basically, I ended up, I had your affidavit, you provided it to me a few weeks ago, and
[01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:04.840]  I adjusted that accordingly, stating that the traffic laws don't apply to...
[01:54:04.840 --> 01:54:05.840]  Okay.
[01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:09.040]  But again, how much studying of the traffic laws have you done?
[01:54:09.040 --> 01:54:13.640]  A fair bit, quite a bit, actually.
[01:54:13.640 --> 01:54:14.640]  Okay.
[01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:22.200]  So, where do you draw the nexus between, which we know would exist, my question to you is
[01:54:22.200 --> 01:54:30.800]  where did you find it and how are you going to argue it, between the traffic laws and
[01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:38.920]  commercial activity?
[01:54:38.920 --> 01:54:45.360]  They have the same, we have a lot of the same duplicate definitions, I believe you refer
[01:54:45.360 --> 01:54:55.500]  to them as, where there's the motor vehicle defined, vehicle defined, traffic is never
[01:54:55.500 --> 01:55:00.240]  defined in the statutes.
[01:55:00.240 --> 01:55:09.520]  In yours, it's defined in ours, transportation isn't, but traffic is.
[01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:10.760]  Okay.
[01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:17.080]  I don't believe the traffic is defined in ours.
[01:55:17.080 --> 01:55:19.080]  Okay.
[01:55:19.080 --> 01:55:26.240]  So I guess I'm not sure.
[01:55:26.240 --> 01:55:37.120]  The nexus for Texas, then, is that just the word transportation doesn't apply or?
[01:55:37.120 --> 01:55:46.400]  The nexus, it's a transportation code in Texas, but the definitions also say transport or
[01:55:46.400 --> 01:55:50.240]  transportation of on a highway.
[01:55:50.240 --> 01:55:56.040]  Well, all those are from transportation.
[01:55:56.040 --> 01:56:00.140]  So what is the definition of transportation?
[01:56:00.140 --> 01:56:02.680]  What is the intended purpose of the code to regulate?
[01:56:02.680 --> 01:56:04.160]  What activity?
[01:56:04.160 --> 01:56:10.520]  Well, the only thing that leaves us is what?
[01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:11.520]  Licensable drivers.
[01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:17.280]  Well, when we look up the definition of transportation, it's not defined in the code, so we have to
[01:56:17.280 --> 01:56:18.760]  go find it.
[01:56:18.760 --> 01:56:20.760]  The next in the line of the hierarchy is what?
[01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:25.800]  A legal dictionary, which has the case law that defines it.
[01:56:25.800 --> 01:56:35.560]  We look there, and we find out that transportation and transporting actually means commerce.
[01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:36.560]  See how that works?
[01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:37.560]  Yeah.
[01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:45.040]  When you look up traffic, I believe it also is referring to commerce in the legal dictionary.
[01:56:45.040 --> 01:56:48.880]  It's referring to goods.
[01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:54.200]  Well, yeah, it is, but normally you are correct.
[01:56:54.200 --> 01:57:09.800]  Traffic also means commerce, but again, you need to make darn sure that what you're looking
[01:57:09.800 --> 01:57:20.960]  at is not defined in your statute, and if it is, get that first.
[01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:26.200]  Now what chapter is your traffic laws in?
[01:57:26.200 --> 01:57:30.640]  Chapter 484.
[01:57:30.640 --> 01:57:31.640]  Chapter 484?
[01:57:31.640 --> 01:57:32.640]  Yes.
[01:57:32.640 --> 01:57:36.680]  All right.
[01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:50.200]  Traffic laws, traffic laws generally, definitions.
[01:57:50.200 --> 01:57:51.640]  Traffic defines.
[01:57:51.640 --> 01:57:55.960]  Traffic means pedestrian, ridden or hurted animals, vehicles, and other conveyances either
[01:57:55.960 --> 01:57:59.640]  singly or together using any highway for purpose of travel.
[01:57:59.640 --> 01:58:00.640]  NRS 484A.285.
[01:58:00.640 --> 01:58:01.640]  See?
[01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:02.640]  You need to read better.
[01:58:02.640 --> 01:58:03.640]  Yeah.
[01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:12.560]  I think what I thought there was that it was the vehicle's part, but...
[01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:13.560]  Okay.
[01:58:13.560 --> 01:58:14.560]  Well, what's the definition of vehicle?
[01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:17.280]  Again, you've got to tie all these together.
[01:58:17.280 --> 01:58:18.280]  All right.
[01:58:18.280 --> 01:58:25.800]  So when you look down here, any person or property is or may be transported on a highway.
[01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:27.240]  That's the definition of vehicle.
[01:58:27.240 --> 01:58:28.240]  See how that works?
[01:58:28.240 --> 01:58:29.240]  All right.
[01:58:29.240 --> 01:58:30.240]  Steve, I got to go.
[01:58:30.240 --> 01:58:31.240]  All right.
[01:58:31.240 --> 01:58:32.240]  Thank you.
[01:58:32.240 --> 01:58:33.240]  All right, folks.
[01:58:33.240 --> 01:58:34.240]  Steve, thanks for calling in.
[01:58:34.240 --> 01:58:35.240]  Sorry to cut you off.
[01:58:35.240 --> 01:58:38.680]  Folks, this has been Rule of Law Radio, the Monday Night Traffic Show, and I have been
[01:58:38.680 --> 01:58:40.000]  your host, Eddie Craig.
[01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:42.640]  Thank you all so much for listening and for calling in.
[01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:46.520]  Y'all have a blessed week, and I will see you next Monday.
[01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:49.520]  Y'all take care, and God bless.