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[03:45.240 --> 04:14.920] And from GrowYourOwnGroceries.org. [04:14.920 --> 04:15.920] All right, good friends. [04:15.920 --> 04:22.800] Good evening and welcome here on this 17th of April, Thursday, April 17th, 2014. [04:22.800 --> 04:25.560] It is 6 p.m. in the Central Time Zone. [04:25.560 --> 04:32.360] It's time therefore for INN World Report Radio, International Newsnet World Report, two nights [04:32.360 --> 04:37.000] a week here on the Logos Radio Network on Tuesdays as well as Thursday night. [04:37.000 --> 04:41.800] Same time frame, 6 until 8 p.m. in the Central Time Zone of these United States. [04:41.800 --> 04:46.560] And I have to say that because International Newsnet is international. [04:46.560 --> 04:53.720] Not only do we like to focus on a lot of international stories that are not being well covered or [04:53.720 --> 04:57.720] properly covered, I should say, by the American mainstream media, but also because we have [04:57.720 --> 04:59.760] listeners that are international as well. [04:59.760 --> 05:05.920] I just got an email today from Colin in Northern Ireland listening to the show, loves the show. [05:05.920 --> 05:09.320] And big shout out if Colin is listening to the program. [05:09.320 --> 05:10.880] Thank you very much. [05:10.880 --> 05:12.320] And how did he do that? [05:12.320 --> 05:13.680] Well, I should step back. [05:13.680 --> 05:15.040] My name, by the way, is Tom Kiley. [05:15.040 --> 05:17.800] I guess in my enthusiasm, I forgot to mention that. [05:17.800 --> 05:22.280] I assume many of you know that already, but that's not a fair assumption. [05:22.280 --> 05:27.280] In any case, the way that Colin was able to do that so easily is the same way you can. [05:27.280 --> 05:30.920] If you'd like to contact me and tell me about the show, it's real easy to do. [05:30.920 --> 05:36.520] Just send me an email, info, I-N-F-O, at INNradio.com. [05:36.520 --> 05:37.520] That's all there is to it. [05:37.520 --> 05:45.000] I-N-F-O at INNradio.com, I check out that email box several times a day, so it'll get [05:45.000 --> 05:50.720] to my attention right away, and I'll be happy to correspond with you. [05:50.720 --> 05:56.320] And of course, the even more preferred method is, or the additional method I should say, [05:56.320 --> 06:02.800] is for you to just pick up the phone and give us a call, because right now the phone lines [06:02.800 --> 06:03.800] are open. [06:03.800 --> 06:11.280] And that's easy to do too, 512-646-1984, 512-646-1984, you get right through. [06:11.280 --> 06:16.560] Phone lines are open right now for the first half hour of the program. [06:16.560 --> 06:21.140] And we'll be joined at the bottom of this hour in about 20 minutes, 25 minutes or so [06:21.140 --> 06:25.600] by my friend Joe Calhoun out in Colorado. [06:25.600 --> 06:30.040] If you're a regular listener to the show, you've heard Joe on numerous times. [06:30.040 --> 06:33.560] He's been working on this Ukraine situation quite a bit. [06:33.560 --> 06:36.160] He's got a newsflash, apparently. [06:36.160 --> 06:43.640] It looks like there may be some false flags going on to try to provoke a further degeneration [06:43.640 --> 06:50.000] of the situation in the Ukraine, particularly the eastern part of the Ukraine, where things [06:50.000 --> 06:56.280] don't look pretty now for the puppet regime that the United States government has installed, [06:56.280 --> 07:03.720] the overthrow of the democratically elected government is as distasteful as that government [07:03.720 --> 07:04.720] may be. [07:04.720 --> 07:09.960] It was elected by apparently a large percentage of the population. [07:09.960 --> 07:14.480] And I think something like 40 some percent, but that's a parliamentary system. [07:14.480 --> 07:20.200] So they've got many parties and that was the largest block of votes. [07:20.200 --> 07:24.220] What the United States did was to pick some wackadoodles that were down the line that [07:24.220 --> 07:30.320] probably got less than 10 percent of the vote and put them in charge by just basically driving [07:30.320 --> 07:33.020] the elected government out of office. [07:33.020 --> 07:34.100] That's all well and good. [07:34.100 --> 07:38.440] If you're a neocon running the show here in the United States and that's what you want, [07:38.440 --> 07:44.680] you tell everybody democracy, democracy, democracy while you thwart democracy at the same time. [07:44.680 --> 07:52.000] You do all kinds of false flag things while you accuse anybody who's trying to prevent [07:52.000 --> 07:56.760] you from overthrowing their government of doing the same thing. [07:56.760 --> 07:58.560] And that's the kind of thing that's going on right now. [07:58.560 --> 08:02.760] There's a report, if you can believe this, and Joe will be talking about this, but there's [08:02.760 --> 08:10.520] a report coming from the eastern Ukraine now that get this ready for this, that Jews in [08:10.520 --> 08:11.720] the eastern Ukraine. [08:11.720 --> 08:17.880] Now that's the predominantly Russian part, the part that used to actually be part of [08:17.880 --> 08:23.680] Russia as well as the Crimea, which used to be part of Russia, but I can go into that. [08:23.680 --> 08:31.880] But there's a report now that in USA Today, of all places, here I'll read it to you. [08:31.880 --> 08:38.000] Leaflet tells Jews to register in east Ukraine. [08:38.000 --> 08:43.160] World leaders and Jewish groups condemned a leaflet handed out in the eastern Ukrainian [08:43.160 --> 08:52.600] city of Donetsk, in which Jews were told to, quote, register with the pro-Russian militants [08:52.600 --> 08:59.680] who have taken over a government office in an attempt to make Ukraine part of Russia, [08:59.680 --> 09:04.440] according to Ukrainian and Israeli media. [09:04.440 --> 09:09.760] Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews [09:09.760 --> 09:15.760] to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee or else have their [09:15.760 --> 09:26.280] citizenship revoked, face deportation, and see their assets confiscated, reported Ynet [09:26.280 --> 09:34.000] News, Israel's largest news website and Ukraine's Donbas news agency. [09:34.000 --> 09:40.880] Now get this, Secretary of State John Kerry said the language of the leaflets is, quote, [09:40.880 --> 09:46.920] beyond unacceptable, end quote, and condemned whomever is responsible. [09:46.920 --> 09:50.080] Yeah, who is responsible? [09:50.080 --> 09:57.680] Who is responsible for these leaflets handed out by unnamed people in the Russian part [09:57.680 --> 09:58.680] of the Ukraine? [09:58.680 --> 10:03.480] Now let's take a look at this here for a second, OK? [10:03.480 --> 10:08.920] On many levels, this really sticks to high heaven. [10:08.920 --> 10:17.240] These leaflets were handed out in the Ukraine, OK, but they were handed out in, let's see, [10:17.240 --> 10:26.560] in the eastern city of Donetsk, OK, which is the Russian part of the Ukraine, OK? [10:26.560 --> 10:36.440] This is, let's see, to make, and they say that they've been handed out by militants [10:36.440 --> 10:45.580] who are attempting to make that part of the Ukraine part of Russia, all right, according [10:45.580 --> 10:48.960] to Ukrainian and Israeli media, all right? [10:48.960 --> 10:55.720] Now first of all, that part of the Ukraine was Russia for most of the last two, three [10:55.720 --> 11:01.040] hundred years, since the 18th, 18 hundreds, right, or the 18th century even, maybe even [11:01.040 --> 11:05.480] longer than that, right, was part of Russia. [11:05.480 --> 11:13.960] It was donated to this area that they call the Ukraine by Nikita Khrushchev in 1954, [11:13.960 --> 11:14.960] OK? [11:14.960 --> 11:15.960] Why? [11:15.960 --> 11:20.640] Well, it was all part of the Soviet Union, and they wanted the Ukrainian people to feel [11:20.640 --> 11:26.680] good, so they made a country out of it, or one of their states out of it. [11:26.680 --> 11:31.200] If you think of this old Soviet Union, like the United States, the Union of Soviet Socialist [11:31.200 --> 11:38.600] Republics, OK, a bunch of republics that were in a union, so they created this Ukrainian [11:38.600 --> 11:41.800] Union as a state. [11:41.800 --> 11:44.560] It was all part of Russia. [11:44.560 --> 11:49.440] Anyway, before that, eastern Ukraine, the Crimea, was literally part of the Russian [11:49.440 --> 11:54.520] Empire since the 17, 18 hundreds. [11:54.520 --> 11:57.920] They didn't think this was any big deal, it was all part of Russia. [11:57.920 --> 12:03.880] So now they're trying to get you to think that these people are trying to make the Ukraine [12:03.880 --> 12:04.880] part of Russia. [12:04.880 --> 12:10.200] It always was part of Russia, they speak Russian there, all right? [12:10.200 --> 12:11.200] That's what happened. [12:11.200 --> 12:22.280] After the Soviet Union collapsed, then this part of the region did not join the new Soviet [12:22.280 --> 12:23.280] Federation. [12:23.280 --> 12:24.640] They wanted to remain independent. [12:24.640 --> 12:29.760] So with them, they took this section that used to be Russia, which is eastern Ukraine. [12:29.760 --> 12:34.800] So it's very misleading to make it sound like the Russians are trying to make the Ukraine [12:34.800 --> 12:37.200] or this part of the Ukraine part of Russia. [12:37.200 --> 12:42.160] It's the people that live there that are Russian that want to go back to being part of Russia [12:42.160 --> 12:48.520] because they don't like what we are doing in the western part of the Ukrainians. [12:48.520 --> 12:49.520] That's number one. [12:49.520 --> 12:52.120] So there's very, very misleading here. [12:52.120 --> 12:54.840] Now the next thing, this is really crazy. [12:54.840 --> 12:55.840] You ready for this? [12:55.840 --> 13:04.040] First of all, anything involving Jews in Europe and making them register and leaflets and [13:04.040 --> 13:11.200] deportation, of course, this is about as hot button as you can get. [13:11.200 --> 13:15.520] This is about as crazy a hot button thing that anybody can do. [13:15.520 --> 13:19.600] You can't get anywhere near that in Western Europe. [13:19.600 --> 13:20.600] You'd be arrested. [13:20.600 --> 13:27.360] In Germany, you try to even talk about something, write about something like that, then you'll [13:27.360 --> 13:28.760] probably go to jail. [13:28.760 --> 13:32.060] There's crimes against it in Austria and Germany. [13:32.060 --> 13:34.360] So it's a real, real hot button thing. [13:34.360 --> 13:35.760] So what do we got? [13:35.760 --> 13:37.840] Let's get everybody all crazy. [13:37.840 --> 13:42.320] Let's get especially the Israelis all crazy. [13:42.320 --> 13:43.320] And what are we going to do? [13:43.320 --> 13:44.320] Let's go back to Hitler. [13:44.320 --> 13:45.320] Let's go back to Hitler. [13:45.320 --> 13:51.200] Remember Saddam Hussein, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler this, Hitler that. [13:51.200 --> 13:57.480] Let's go back to Hitler, making the Jews have leaflets and getting registered and all this [13:57.480 --> 13:58.480] stuff. [13:58.480 --> 13:59.480] Uh-oh, uh-oh. [13:59.480 --> 14:00.480] All right. [14:00.480 --> 14:01.480] What does that mean? [14:01.480 --> 14:03.720] You know, we, we could go to nuclear war over this. [14:03.720 --> 14:04.720] Okay. [14:04.720 --> 14:08.680] Well, first of all, these leaflets were handed out by who exactly? [14:08.680 --> 14:11.320] We don't know, right? [14:11.320 --> 14:17.960] But number two, more importantly, it is not the Russians. [14:17.960 --> 14:21.220] It is not the Russian Ukrainians. [14:21.220 --> 14:26.280] It is not the Russian people who persecuted the Jews. [14:26.280 --> 14:27.480] Okay. [14:27.480 --> 14:33.800] It is the very group of people that this government in this country with our tax dollars is propping [14:33.800 --> 14:39.640] up in the Western Ukraine, who are the people who persecuted the Jews along with the Nazis [14:39.640 --> 14:40.760] during the second world war. [14:40.760 --> 14:44.560] And if you're a listener to this show, you know that we've gone over this history a lot. [14:44.560 --> 14:50.800] These are people who welcomed Adolf Hitler's army as it invaded Russia and came through [14:50.800 --> 14:53.240] the Ukraine to do so. [14:53.240 --> 15:03.540] They were so virulently anti-Jewish, anti-Semitic that they helped the Germans, the Nazis round [15:03.540 --> 15:06.600] up all the Jews in the Ukraine and kill them. [15:06.600 --> 15:07.600] Okay. [15:07.600 --> 15:10.080] With such a passion that it made the Germans sick. [15:10.080 --> 15:11.080] All right. [15:11.080 --> 15:18.020] These are the people, Swaboda party and this guy, Banderas, who escaped when the Russians [15:18.020 --> 15:20.640] reclaimed the territory and came to Western Europe. [15:20.640 --> 15:21.640] Okay. [15:21.640 --> 15:23.720] He was a war criminal. [15:23.720 --> 15:30.640] These are the, this is the lineage from which the people who we just paid to get rid of [15:30.640 --> 15:36.120] the government in the West, in the Ukraine, that's where these people come from. [15:36.120 --> 15:37.120] Okay. [15:37.120 --> 15:42.520] From fascists who are virulently anti-Semitic. [15:42.520 --> 15:44.000] Okay. [15:44.000 --> 15:46.160] It is not the Russians who are anti-Semitic. [15:46.160 --> 15:47.160] Okay. [15:47.160 --> 15:53.600] And if you know your history, you know that many, many of the Bolsheviks, okay, who started [15:53.600 --> 15:58.680] the Russian revolution were Jewish themselves. [15:58.680 --> 16:01.160] Right. [16:01.160 --> 16:07.000] And that is explained as an explanation, partial explanation as to why the fascist Western [16:07.000 --> 16:15.280] Ukrainians who we are, you know, trying to get to run the show over there hate the Russian [16:15.280 --> 16:21.200] Jews so much because they blame the, the Russian Jews for Bolshevism. [16:21.200 --> 16:22.460] Okay. [16:22.460 --> 16:24.440] So this is completely backwards. [16:24.440 --> 16:32.840] And anybody who thinks that Russians are anti-Semitic and that Russian, that Russians are telling [16:32.840 --> 16:35.160] the Jews to register and all is crazy. [16:35.160 --> 16:41.360] It is the people in the Western Ukraine, the fascists, okay, that worked with the Nazis [16:41.360 --> 16:48.480] who we are propping up to run that country, those are the people who come from that lineage. 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[18:49.960 --> 18:58.960] That's ruleoflawradio.com, or email m-i-c-h-a-e-l-m-i-r-r-a-m at yahoo.com to learn how to stop debt [18:58.960 --> 18:59.960] collectors now. [18:59.960 --> 19:19.880] You are listening to the Logos Radio Network, the logosradio network dot com. [19:19.880 --> 19:48.560] All right, good friends. [19:48.560 --> 19:49.560] Welcome back. [19:49.560 --> 19:50.880] Welcome to the INF Word Report radio. [19:50.880 --> 19:58.320] There's a lot going on, and this crazy situation in Ukraine continues to fester, and the wheels [19:58.320 --> 20:01.180] came off this wagon. [20:01.180 --> 20:05.760] The best laid plans, Dr. Paul Craig Robinson, he was on the show a couple of weeks ago, [20:05.760 --> 20:06.760] we have to get him back on. [20:06.760 --> 20:09.160] I saw an interview with him recently. [20:09.160 --> 20:12.600] Really laid it out really, really well. [20:12.600 --> 20:17.760] The neocons who were driving all this stuff, they just want war, war, war. [20:17.760 --> 20:21.480] He said that they tried to get Reagan to do it, and Reagan kicked him out, and they got [20:21.480 --> 20:23.720] really pissed at Reagan. [20:23.720 --> 20:34.560] And then they came back in with Clinton, and that's what you saw happening over Serbia. [20:34.560 --> 20:41.480] And then they, of course, were well entrenched in the second Bush administration or the Bush [20:41.480 --> 20:42.480] II. [20:42.480 --> 20:45.720] And, you know, the results are tragic, of course. [20:45.720 --> 20:49.400] And Iraq. [20:49.400 --> 20:57.560] And now with Barack Obama, you know, they're continuing, Libya, Syria, you know, continuing [20:57.560 --> 21:03.800] in Afghanistan, all the provocations in Yemen and Pakistan and so forth. [21:03.800 --> 21:05.320] These people just want war, war, war. [21:05.320 --> 21:12.060] And now, because Vladimir Putin had the temerity to stand up to them in Syria, they're going [21:12.060 --> 21:13.060] to make him bleed. [21:13.060 --> 21:16.840] They're going to make him pay, so they're causing trouble in the Ukraine. [21:16.840 --> 21:21.720] And it's stupid, and it's dangerous, because it's right on the border of the Soviet, former [21:21.720 --> 21:24.720] Soviet Union of Russia. [21:24.720 --> 21:29.140] And how would we like it if Russia came and, you know, overthrew the government of Mexico [21:29.140 --> 21:38.160] and put a pro-Russian puppet in and, you know, started to make overtures to Mexico that, [21:38.160 --> 21:43.200] you know, that they could have their own Russian military bases in Mexico? [21:43.200 --> 21:51.120] How do you think John Kerry, John the Chin Kerry, would react to something like that? [21:51.120 --> 21:55.800] For crying out loud, you know, they've been screaming and crying over Cuba, which at least [21:55.800 --> 21:58.160] is out in the ocean, OK? [21:58.160 --> 22:00.160] Not right up against us. [22:00.160 --> 22:04.220] For decades and decades, all my life, they've been crying over Cuba, right? [22:04.220 --> 22:06.540] What if it was right here, right up next to us? [22:06.540 --> 22:11.120] That's what we're doing in the Ukraine. [22:11.120 --> 22:18.040] And interestingly, there's no way, there's no way that we could foment an overthrow of [22:18.040 --> 22:24.040] the Ukrainian government if we focused on the Russian Ukrainians, the ones who live [22:24.040 --> 22:30.680] predominantly in the Crimea, and the ones who live in the eastern part of the Ukraine. [22:30.680 --> 22:31.680] There's no way. [22:31.680 --> 22:34.600] They're not interested. [22:34.600 --> 22:43.240] But if you go to the western part of the Ukraine, where the crazies are, where the German imperial [22:43.240 --> 22:52.520] high command during World War I caused trouble by fabricating this phony, baloney country [22:52.520 --> 22:57.440] called Ukraine, there's never such a thing as the Ukraine on the map until the Germans [22:57.440 --> 22:58.440] made it. [22:58.440 --> 22:59.440] All right? [22:59.440 --> 23:03.640] You know, this is what imperialism does all over the world, OK? [23:03.640 --> 23:05.600] All over the world. [23:05.600 --> 23:09.800] And time after time, if you look at trouble spots, hot spots around the world, if you [23:09.800 --> 23:16.520] look into the history, you find out that this place was created by a colonial power, right? [23:16.520 --> 23:23.040] There's no such thing as Pakistan or Bangladesh. [23:23.040 --> 23:30.360] Afghanistan, you know, was an area, but I don't know that it had any specific border. [23:30.360 --> 23:35.160] The British created Pakistan. [23:35.160 --> 23:40.420] And you know, eastern Pakistan, western Pakistan, of course, eastern Pakistan later on separated [23:40.420 --> 23:43.180] became Bangladesh, right? [23:43.180 --> 23:51.640] But what Pakistan is today, that used to be the Pashtuns, the Pashtun people that live [23:51.640 --> 23:56.680] in the region we now call Pakistan and live in the region we now call Afghanistan. [23:56.680 --> 24:01.040] They were one big, huge tribe with the mountains going right through the middle and, of course, [24:01.040 --> 24:03.640] divide and conquer, right? [24:03.640 --> 24:08.840] Split people up, get them to think that they're two separate countries. [24:08.840 --> 24:09.840] And that's what happens. [24:09.840 --> 24:12.000] Look at all the trouble now in that part of the world. [24:12.000 --> 24:15.420] I said this on the show before, I interviewed somebody some years ago. [24:15.420 --> 24:22.400] If you remember, the problem in Ceylon, the big island off the southern tip of India, [24:22.400 --> 24:27.840] Sri Lanka, okay, also as it's known, right? [24:27.840 --> 24:30.480] Some years ago, there was a big problem there with the Tamil tigers. [24:30.480 --> 24:33.920] Remember, the Tamil tigers were fighting and they were being oppressed by the government [24:33.920 --> 24:37.920] and there were gorillas and, oh, we got to go in there and we got to, you know, all this [24:37.920 --> 24:38.920] stuff. [24:38.920 --> 24:49.760] Well, the Tamils in Sri Lanka were a minority, a Hindu minority in a Buddhist country where [24:49.760 --> 24:51.240] the majority of the people were Buddhist. [24:51.240 --> 24:53.520] All right, they were a minority. [24:53.520 --> 24:54.520] So what happens? [24:54.520 --> 25:01.280] The Imperial British come down there and this is what they do time after time after time. [25:01.280 --> 25:07.080] They go into a place, they can't go in there with, they can't, you know, occupy the entire [25:07.080 --> 25:08.080] country. [25:08.080 --> 25:09.840] England is a little tiny place. [25:09.840 --> 25:14.080] How did England get to control so much of the planet earth? [25:14.080 --> 25:21.360] Not by leaving large armies everywhere they went, no, by recruiting locals who had a chip [25:21.360 --> 25:29.920] on their shoulder, who were in the minority, but there was enough of them to run the country [25:29.920 --> 25:32.360] if they were backed up by the British military. [25:32.360 --> 25:35.360] All right, and that's what they did. [25:35.360 --> 25:40.480] They took the Tamils in Sri Lanka and they made them the boss, right? [25:40.480 --> 25:42.840] They made them the boss. [25:42.840 --> 25:47.360] And if the majority Buddhists didn't like it, then tough luck, you had to deal with [25:47.360 --> 25:49.280] the British army. [25:49.280 --> 25:50.280] So that's what they do. [25:50.280 --> 25:52.040] That's how they could stretch themselves over the whole world. [25:52.040 --> 25:53.200] They do this all over the place. [25:53.200 --> 25:55.200] It's not just the British. [25:55.200 --> 25:56.920] This is what colonialism is. [25:56.920 --> 25:58.640] This is what imperialism is. [25:58.640 --> 25:59.640] Right? [25:59.640 --> 26:01.560] Where have you heard this before? [26:01.560 --> 26:03.320] Where have you heard this before? [26:03.320 --> 26:05.180] You know what I'm talking about. [26:05.180 --> 26:07.440] Anybody ever hear of Iraq? [26:07.440 --> 26:08.840] Anybody ever hear of Iraq? [26:08.840 --> 26:10.480] What's the story with Iraq? [26:10.480 --> 26:15.600] Oh, what's the majority sect in Iraq? [26:15.600 --> 26:21.400] Islamic sect, Sunni Islam or Shia Islam? [26:21.400 --> 26:23.120] What's the majority? [26:23.120 --> 26:31.280] The majority are the Shia Islamists, practitioners of the Shia sect of Islam. [26:31.280 --> 26:38.160] I think it's a minority sect in the world, but in that part of the world, it's a majority [26:38.160 --> 26:39.160] sect. [26:39.160 --> 26:41.120] It's the majority in Iraq. [26:41.120 --> 26:43.080] It's the majority in Iran. [26:43.080 --> 26:44.080] Okay. [26:44.080 --> 26:45.080] Okay. [26:45.080 --> 26:46.080] So far, so good. [26:46.080 --> 26:47.080] Right? [26:47.080 --> 26:49.880] Well, who ran the show in Iraq? [26:49.880 --> 26:52.320] Big Shiite country. [26:52.320 --> 26:53.800] Who was in charge? [26:53.800 --> 26:55.700] Saddam Hussein and his crew. [26:55.700 --> 26:58.280] Was Saddam Hussein a Shiite Muslim? [26:58.280 --> 27:02.640] No, he was a Sunni Muslim, minority. [27:02.640 --> 27:03.640] This has happened. [27:03.640 --> 27:05.560] This happens over and over and over. [27:05.560 --> 27:10.400] And what happens, all these places are always in turmoil because the majority is being ruled [27:10.400 --> 27:15.600] by a minority that was installed by an imperial power, okay? [27:15.600 --> 27:21.200] And even after the imperial armies leave, they leave behind a powerful structure in [27:21.200 --> 27:27.560] place and they still back them, you know, covertly, right? [27:27.560 --> 27:28.960] And this is why you have all this. [27:28.960 --> 27:32.000] You know, if you don't know this history, friends, you look at your TV set, you read [27:32.000 --> 27:36.520] your newspapers, oh my gosh, can't these people ever get it together in these parts of the [27:36.520 --> 27:37.520] world? [27:37.520 --> 27:38.520] What's the matter with them? [27:38.520 --> 27:39.520] Don't they like democracy? [27:39.520 --> 27:45.120] You know, baloney, this stuff is created. [27:45.120 --> 27:50.800] Fractured societies are created because A against B and the winner is C, right? [27:50.800 --> 27:54.600] Sunni against Shiite and the winner is the British or whoever created it or the Western [27:54.600 --> 27:58.340] powers, whatever, okay? [27:58.340 --> 27:59.340] Like that. [27:59.340 --> 28:04.320] And over and over and over again, you find this is Syria, just a whole mix of people. [28:04.320 --> 28:10.160] There's Christians, there's Alawites, there's Shiite, there's Sunnis, you know, all over [28:10.160 --> 28:14.840] in Syria, all mixed up, right? [28:14.840 --> 28:17.080] Hard to govern, hard to rule. [28:17.080 --> 28:18.960] Harder it is to govern, harder it is to rule. [28:18.960 --> 28:24.880] The more dependent the ruling class is on a foreign power to keep them in place. [28:24.880 --> 28:27.960] And that's what's going on in the Ukraine, okay? [28:27.960 --> 28:32.360] The people in the Western part of the Ukraine, you know, had a chip on their shoulder. [28:32.360 --> 28:36.040] The Germans exploited it, pumped them up and said, you know, you don't have to be under [28:36.040 --> 28:37.040] Russian control. [28:37.040 --> 28:40.980] We're going to make you into your own country and we'll back you up. [28:40.980 --> 28:42.260] And that's what they did. [28:42.260 --> 28:46.880] And they created this phony baloney country called the Ukraine, okay, which was, you know, [28:46.880 --> 28:53.400] at the time, the Ukraine was under the control of, part of it was under the control of Russia. [28:53.400 --> 28:57.160] Part of it was under the control of the Prussian German Empire. [28:57.160 --> 29:00.680] Part of it was under the control of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. [29:00.680 --> 29:05.240] Part of it had been under the control of the Turks down in the Crimea. [29:05.240 --> 29:10.600] And part of it up north, probably by the Poles too, and the Russians, all right? [29:10.600 --> 29:16.520] These are border regions where all of these different empires came together. [29:16.520 --> 29:21.480] And during World War I, when the Germans had lots of Russian prisoners, after they spirited [29:21.480 --> 29:28.000] Vladimir Lenin into Russia to wreck that country, wreck that society, which he did, well, during [29:28.000 --> 29:32.960] that chaos, they took a lot of their Russian prisoners of war during the World War I, after [29:32.960 --> 29:36.440] they got Russia out of the war, sent them back, trained them for us and said, hey, you [29:36.440 --> 29:40.040] people are living in Ukraine, we're going to make a country out of you and we'll back [29:40.040 --> 29:41.040] it up. [29:41.040 --> 29:42.280] Germany will back it up. [29:42.280 --> 29:44.600] And that's when the Ukraine appeared on the map. [29:44.600 --> 29:50.200] And those Western Ukrainians always liked the Germans because they created the country. [29:50.200 --> 29:56.880] So when the Nazis came back in, they went to town with the Nazis against the Jewish [29:56.880 --> 29:57.880] Ukrainians. [29:57.880 --> 29:58.880] All right. [29:58.880 --> 30:03.520] We'll be right back just after. [30:03.520 --> 30:04.520] Don't touch that dial. [30:04.520 --> 30:07.520] Seriously, it may be rigged to scan your hand. [30:07.520 --> 30:09.560] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. [30:09.560 --> 30:16.480] Back to tell you how a children's media corporation is developing some scary sci-fi next. [30:16.480 --> 30:18.240] Privacy is under attack. [30:18.240 --> 30:21.840] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [30:21.840 --> 30:26.820] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [30:26.820 --> 30:28.320] So protect your rights. 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[34:51.600 --> 34:54.880] Joe, looks like, well, first of all, Joe, welcome back to the show. [34:54.880 --> 34:59.400] Yeah, yeah, I think everybody knows me by now. [34:59.400 --> 35:00.400] I think so. [35:00.400 --> 35:01.400] I think they should. [35:01.400 --> 35:05.880] But, you know, sometimes we have new listeners, we've got new listeners all the time. [35:05.880 --> 35:10.080] And by the way, friends, if Joe sounds a little distracted as he's talking to us, because [35:10.080 --> 35:14.320] he just took a little while to answer me there, it's for good reason. [35:14.320 --> 35:20.600] He's monitoring the news feeds right now as well to keep us abreast of this developing [35:20.600 --> 35:22.320] story. [35:22.320 --> 35:27.320] But I explained Joe to the audience before he came on, this crazy phony baloney sounding [35:27.320 --> 35:35.120] leaflet that was handed out in, of all places, Eastern Ukraine by the so-called pro-Russian [35:35.120 --> 35:42.760] Ukrainians to the Ukrainian Jews with all this hot button language in there about registering [35:42.760 --> 35:46.480] and deportation and confiscation of property. [35:46.480 --> 35:51.240] This is, you might as well just say, Adolf Hitler, Adolf Hitler, Adolf Hitler. [35:51.240 --> 35:55.840] Yeah, this was, I monitor Twitter all the time. [35:55.840 --> 36:00.840] I'm a Twitter fanatic right now, and that's where I do my social media to get news and [36:00.840 --> 36:02.320] things out. [36:02.320 --> 36:09.480] And I saw this tweet, it was either late last night or early this morning, something, some [36:09.480 --> 36:16.120] tweet about that the pro-Russian militia have ordered Jews in Donetsk to register. [36:16.120 --> 36:25.080] And I didn't pay much attention to it, because I thought, oh, this is absurd, you know, because [36:25.080 --> 36:33.280] it's coming out even on the mainstream media now that the right sector neo-Nazi types were [36:33.280 --> 36:41.280] instrumental in Kiev in overthrowing the parliament and the government there. [36:41.280 --> 36:48.000] And so the Western media, the paradigm, the NATO paradigm has gotten a lot of bad press. [36:48.000 --> 36:52.040] And so when I saw this, I thought, oh, this is absurd, I didn't even bother looking at [36:52.040 --> 36:53.040] it. [36:53.040 --> 37:00.640] And it wasn't until John Kerry gave his news conference today about this agreement between [37:00.640 --> 37:08.760] the United States, Russia, the EU, and a representative of the rump government of Ukraine that they [37:08.760 --> 37:18.760] made in Geneva, where John Kerry very quickly commented about how grotesque this was, that [37:18.760 --> 37:26.600] the pro, the so-called pro-Russia militia in eastern Ukraine have ordered all Jews to [37:26.600 --> 37:29.600] register. [37:29.600 --> 37:34.320] This is amazing, Joe, because he's the daggone secretary of state, okay? [37:34.320 --> 37:38.680] Now, I'm just a guy who- He's not a Twitter guy. [37:38.680 --> 37:42.240] No, no, he's like, you know, he's the secretary of state. [37:42.240 --> 37:47.760] I'm just a guy who tries to get a good radio, informative radio program, and I have to be [37:47.760 --> 37:48.760] careful. [37:48.760 --> 37:51.200] You know, if I say stuff- That's right. [37:51.200 --> 37:53.100] You know, I have to be careful. [37:53.100 --> 37:59.160] You know, something I'll say, it's alleged, or, you know, it supposedly is this or that. [37:59.160 --> 38:02.080] You know, we're being told it's this or that, okay? [38:02.080 --> 38:07.280] I don't come out and say, this is terrible, that the government of such and thus a country [38:07.280 --> 38:09.360] is doing this or that. [38:09.360 --> 38:13.520] I don't know, and I don't have the resources to check out, but you know, if it's interesting, [38:13.520 --> 38:14.520] it's interesting. [38:14.520 --> 38:15.520] But I'm careful. [38:15.520 --> 38:19.560] This Carrie guy thinks that we're living back in the Stone Age where there's no internet, [38:19.560 --> 38:21.200] no newspapers, no anything. [38:21.200 --> 38:22.520] He can just say whatever he wants. [38:22.520 --> 38:29.800] He did the same thing with the sarin gas attack in Syria that he blamed right at the feet [38:29.800 --> 38:36.840] of the Assad government, and this is so disproven now, every which way you look at it. [38:36.840 --> 38:38.800] And does he apologize for this? [38:38.800 --> 38:42.560] No, he goes right back at it all over again. [38:42.560 --> 38:50.320] And this is what kind of, you know, kind of shocked me, you know, because when Carrie [38:50.320 --> 38:54.760] says it, I have to go on Twitter to find out what the hell's going on. [38:54.760 --> 39:04.320] Did some crackpot in the government there in Donask issue this, you know, or what happened? [39:04.320 --> 39:11.600] And I stumbled on a USA Today article, and it was actually by accident, because I was [39:11.600 --> 39:21.240] trying to find, you know, some other sources that would counter this particular line of [39:21.240 --> 39:22.240] propaganda. [39:22.240 --> 39:26.240] And actually, USA Today was pretty damn good. [39:26.240 --> 39:29.960] I'm trying to get it up on my screen right now. [39:29.960 --> 39:39.680] But basically, what the USA Today article said is, first of all, the temporary governor [39:39.680 --> 39:44.480] of Donask, the leaflet was put out in his name. [39:44.480 --> 39:48.320] It wasn't, the way Carrie made it sound is that the government, you know, officially [39:48.320 --> 39:54.660] went down there and ordered to a synagogue and, you know, ordered them to register. [39:54.660 --> 40:01.320] But the way the story actually came out is that mass men went down there and handed out [40:01.320 --> 40:09.200] leaflets after a Passover service, telling Jews that they had to register. [40:09.200 --> 40:19.080] And the governor of Donask, Dennis Puliskin, I don't know if I'm proud, Pushilin, I can't [40:19.080 --> 40:23.840] pronounce his name quite right, said that although this thing came out in his name, [40:23.840 --> 40:31.840] he had nothing, has nothing to do with the government in Donask, absolutely nothing. [40:31.840 --> 40:39.960] And that was reported by, actually, by the Hebrew service of Ynet, which is an Israeli [40:39.960 --> 40:43.120] news service. [40:43.120 --> 40:53.360] And then there were other, I'll quote some of the report here, just to make it, it says [40:53.360 --> 41:00.360] that they told me, this is a witness at the synagogue, they told me, or this is the guy [41:00.360 --> 41:05.760] in Israel, the Ynet report, they told me that mass men were waiting for the Jewish people [41:05.760 --> 41:12.040] after Passover Eve prayer, handed them the flyer and then told them to obey instructions, [41:12.040 --> 41:15.040] he said. [41:15.040 --> 41:19.080] The leaflet begins, Dear Ukraine citizens of the Jewish nationality and states that [41:19.080 --> 41:23.800] all people of Jewish descent over 16 years old must report to the commissioner of nationalities [41:23.800 --> 41:24.800] in Donask. [41:24.800 --> 41:32.440] Now, it says the reason is because the leaders of the Jewish community of Ukraine supported [41:32.440 --> 41:36.600] the Banderas junta, a reference to Stephen Banderas. [41:36.600 --> 41:44.600] Now, Joe, Joe, this is, you're laughing because it's laughable, this is, friends, correct [41:44.600 --> 41:51.880] me if I'm wrong, Joe, this is total backflip craziness here, Stephen Banderas is the Ukrainian [41:51.880 --> 42:00.960] guy who went back, you know what, on the Ukrainian Jews and did the Nazis bidding and killed [42:00.960 --> 42:09.920] them, you know, so to say that the, to say that pro-Russian Ukrainians are accusing Jewish [42:09.920 --> 42:17.160] Ukrainians of supporting this Banderas movement that's named after this guy who killed their [42:17.160 --> 42:21.840] own kind during World War II, it's just, he's a war criminal. [42:21.840 --> 42:27.120] It's just beyond belief, it's laughable if it wasn't so serious. [42:27.120 --> 42:32.280] It was, at first, when I was talking to Don Debar earlier after I saw this, because, you [42:32.280 --> 42:36.240] know, I usually put out this stuff on Twitter and I don't make phone calls unless this is [42:36.240 --> 42:42.200] urgent, but this thing, after Kerry made that statement, and this is the way Goebbels always [42:42.200 --> 42:49.280] worked, the bigger the lie, the harder it is to disprove, but they don't, they don't [42:49.280 --> 42:56.040] care, John Kerry, the CIA, John Brennan, they don't care if they're caught lying, they [42:56.040 --> 43:02.600] just have to have this lie go long enough for it to have the desired effect they want. [43:02.600 --> 43:03.600] That's all they want. [43:03.600 --> 43:07.120] Well, not only that, but they know that they've got the mainstream media that the oligarchs [43:07.120 --> 43:11.120] who run the CIA own as well, so, you know, where are you going to hear it? [43:11.120 --> 43:16.480] You know, thank God for things like, you know, the alternative media that we're participating [43:16.480 --> 43:19.440] in, at least we get a chance to talk about this stuff. [43:19.440 --> 43:22.520] Listen, Joe, Nancy's on the line. [43:22.520 --> 43:24.160] Actually, you know what? [43:24.160 --> 43:28.600] We've got a caller who wants to comment, and I'd like to get to you, Nancy, but we're just [43:28.600 --> 43:32.760] getting ready to go on break, so please hold on, and we'll get to you as soon as we come [43:32.760 --> 43:33.760] back. [43:33.760 --> 43:34.760] How does that sound to you, Joe? [43:34.760 --> 43:35.760] Fine, fine. [43:35.760 --> 43:42.200] All right, I'm sorry to sort of cut you off a little bit there, because that music means [43:42.200 --> 43:43.280] that we're going on to break. [43:43.280 --> 43:49.200] We're speaking with Joe Calhoun about this breaking story, another false flag operation [43:49.200 --> 43:54.160] that John Kerry is, you know, shouting about from the rooftops as if it's a real deal, [43:54.160 --> 43:56.800] when it's going to be turned out to be bogus all over again. [43:56.800 --> 44:00.520] Tom Kiley, INN, right back after this. [44:00.520 --> 44:08.200] Hello, my name is Stuart Smith from naturespureorganics.com, and I would like to invite you to come by our [44:08.200 --> 44:13.400] store at 1904 Guadalupe Street, Suite D, here in Austin, Texas, to find brave new books [44:13.400 --> 44:16.840] and chase things, to see all our fantastic health and wellness products with your very [44:16.840 --> 44:17.840] own eyes. [44:17.840 --> 44:22.680] Have a look at our Miracle Healing Clay that started our adventure in alternative medicine. 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[46:16.280 --> 46:27.280] Because the people have looked back and gotten lazy, and now their vote is a meaningless [46:27.280 --> 46:28.280] joke. [46:28.280 --> 46:37.120] All right, good friends, welcome back. [46:37.120 --> 46:43.880] Now that's somebody who knows a little something about fascism and communism and all that. [46:43.880 --> 46:45.200] That's John Kay from Steppenwolf. [46:45.200 --> 46:50.400] He was actually born in a part of Germany that later became, I think, part of Poland [46:50.400 --> 46:56.320] or one of the Baltic states, and his mother brought him all the way out to West Germany [46:56.320 --> 46:57.320] as a kid. [46:57.320 --> 47:00.880] So when he got here, he found out that a lot of BS going on here, too. [47:00.880 --> 47:05.960] Anyway, we've got Joe Calhoun with us on the line out in Colorado right now. [47:05.960 --> 47:09.560] And Joe, what do you say, we've got a caller, Nancy, listening to the show, wants to make [47:09.560 --> 47:10.560] a comment about the leaflets. [47:10.560 --> 47:11.560] You all set? [47:11.560 --> 47:12.560] Okay, sure, sure. [47:12.560 --> 47:13.560] Let's go. [47:13.560 --> 47:14.560] All right. [47:14.560 --> 47:15.560] Hi, Nancy. [47:15.560 --> 47:17.240] Thank you for hanging on. [47:17.240 --> 47:22.240] I understand that you want to make a comment about the leaflets? [47:22.240 --> 47:24.240] In general, yes. [47:24.240 --> 47:25.240] Thank you for letting me talk. [47:25.240 --> 47:30.200] I didn't really want to interrupt him because I enjoyed listening. [47:30.200 --> 47:36.680] I like to learn, you know, but there's one thing I should have. [47:36.680 --> 47:43.400] That area has belonged to Russia since Catherine the Great that you're talking about. [47:43.400 --> 47:48.880] Number two, those leaflets reminded me, I wondered why they didn't say you have to have [47:48.880 --> 47:51.680] a yellow star on. [47:51.680 --> 48:01.240] Isn't that strikingly reminiscent of the Nazis and probably that's why this was fabricated, [48:01.240 --> 48:02.240] no? [48:02.240 --> 48:03.240] Yes. [48:03.240 --> 48:08.080] And we actually ought to be getting ready for a nuclear war because we have been trying [48:08.080 --> 48:18.440] to encircle Russia and China, so I guess, as I'm sure you know, Russia has been making [48:18.440 --> 48:25.800] strides in South America and even, of course, again in Cuba. [48:25.800 --> 48:31.480] Well China has been making great strides in Africa and that's causing a lot of problems. [48:31.480 --> 48:33.400] That's why we have AFRICOM now. [48:33.400 --> 48:40.360] That's why the U.S. Army has created an entire command for Africa and it can't even be in [48:40.360 --> 48:42.360] Africa because no African country wants it. [48:42.360 --> 48:45.440] It is working out of Germany or something. [48:45.440 --> 48:49.960] But that's because Western colonial powers have had their way in Africa for so long they [48:49.960 --> 48:53.960] didn't feel like they needed a big army presence there and now the Chinese have been coming [48:53.960 --> 48:59.560] in the last 10, 20 years and they're making deals with the Africans. [48:59.560 --> 49:00.800] They're treating them fairly. [49:00.800 --> 49:06.280] They're giving them a fair shake and that's upsetting the whole doggone apple cart. [49:06.280 --> 49:12.360] Well they wouldn't be doing that if we hadn't, we are the ringleaders for the whole thing. [49:12.360 --> 49:18.360] Well if we had treated the Africans and everybody else in the world with fairness, there would [49:18.360 --> 49:20.280] be no room for somebody else to come in. [49:20.280 --> 49:21.920] But that's what's been going on. [49:21.920 --> 49:24.920] The Chinese are not going in there like we do with the military or anything. [49:24.920 --> 49:25.920] They're going in there. [49:25.920 --> 49:26.920] Okay. [49:26.920 --> 49:28.320] You know, you've got raw materials that we need. [49:28.320 --> 49:31.880] We can build you a dam or a road or whatever, you know. [49:31.880 --> 49:35.040] They are going to cut us completely off. [49:35.040 --> 49:41.120] They are encircling us while we're trying to encircle them but we started it. [49:41.120 --> 49:46.960] I have to agree with you, you know, it's a shame, Nancy. [49:46.960 --> 49:51.800] After the Cold War was over, I thought there was an opportunity for the United States to [49:51.800 --> 49:57.240] be the magnanimous people that we are and say, you know what, let's fix this and not [49:57.240 --> 49:59.280] have these kind of competitions anymore. [49:59.280 --> 50:03.200] We're going to lay down our arms unilaterally and balance the situation out. [50:03.200 --> 50:06.560] But no, the neocons came in and said we're number one and we're going to try to make [50:06.560 --> 50:10.720] it a unipolar world and you know, nature repores a vacuum. [50:10.720 --> 50:15.280] The rest of the world coalesces to form a balance and that's what's going on and if [50:15.280 --> 50:17.920] we don't watch out, they're going to see us as the bad guys. [50:17.920 --> 50:22.000] Well, we are the bad guys, I'm afraid to say. [50:22.000 --> 50:25.800] We need to talk sometime off the phone and off the radio. [50:25.800 --> 50:28.880] Well, Nancy, I'd be happy to do that. [50:28.880 --> 50:35.080] Send me an email if you'd like and I'd be glad to reach out to you, info at INNradio.com [50:35.080 --> 50:38.440] and you know, just say it's Nancy and we can talk. [50:38.440 --> 50:41.640] I believe that you've called in several times before, haven't you Nancy? [50:41.640 --> 50:43.520] I don't remember hearing you for a while though. [50:43.520 --> 50:44.520] Well, that's true. [50:44.520 --> 50:47.760] I couldn't get through several different times. [50:47.760 --> 50:54.080] There's strange things going on with the airways now too at times. [50:54.080 --> 51:01.080] Our computers at work were down all day today and that was the state of Texas. [51:01.080 --> 51:02.080] Never mind. [51:02.080 --> 51:07.680] Okay, yeah, too much information, TMI, but listen, thank you so much for listening and [51:07.680 --> 51:11.440] for calling in and send me an email, info at INNradio, I'd be happy to talk with you [51:11.440 --> 51:12.440] off the air sometime. [51:12.440 --> 51:15.440] Okay, that'll be great. [51:15.440 --> 51:16.440] Thank you. [51:16.440 --> 51:17.440] Thank you very much. [51:17.440 --> 51:18.440] Bye-bye. [51:18.440 --> 51:21.320] All right then, let's go back now to our friend Joe Calhoun. [51:21.320 --> 51:25.560] Joe, tell everybody how they can get your Twitter feed because it's really interesting. [51:25.560 --> 51:29.760] I get this all day long and you're like a news service. [51:29.760 --> 51:42.760] Oh, God, I'm getting trolled now instantly by people that don't listen to any facts, [51:42.760 --> 51:49.960] don't put a link on their tweet, they just insult me that I'm... They ask me how much [51:49.960 --> 51:58.520] is the Kremlin paying you to say this, but it's like... And then I come back with them. [51:58.520 --> 52:13.040] Well, a very important point, there was a tweet talking about how Russia is interfering [52:13.040 --> 52:21.360] in the sovereign states of Ukraine and although it was part of the Soviet Union, how was it? [52:21.360 --> 52:25.280] That historically it has never been part of the Soviet Union. [52:25.280 --> 52:36.360] And so I instantly found the map of Russia in 1794 and the Ukraine, even a little more [52:36.360 --> 52:43.560] than what is Ukraine today, was historically part of Russia and it had been historically [52:43.560 --> 52:49.280] part of Russia for over five or 700 years. [52:49.280 --> 53:00.280] So I tweeted back, she tweeted back, well, that was then, this is the... I can't remember [53:00.280 --> 53:05.280] how she said it because I don't have a tweet up, but it's something to the effect that [53:05.280 --> 53:10.160] what matters is now, maybe I can find it here. [53:10.160 --> 53:12.680] Oh, I think she deleted her tweets. [53:12.680 --> 53:20.000] Yeah, she did because I told her, tell that to Native Americans. [53:20.000 --> 53:26.360] In other words, it's like saying, well, history is on our side because we took over America [53:26.360 --> 53:34.360] and Native Americans don't have any rights to reclaim any sovereignty. [53:34.360 --> 53:48.360] And so she tweeted me back and I said, your paradigm is like that of the NATO neo-Nazis [53:48.360 --> 54:00.360] and Hitler because when Hitler went in and annexed Austria and he annexed Czechoslovakia, [54:00.360 --> 54:03.400] the Western leaders didn't mind. [54:03.400 --> 54:11.840] It was, oh, well, he's protecting the Sudetenland or he's protecting the German population there. [54:11.840 --> 54:19.160] But this is not as egregious as Russia's concern about the Ukraine because the Ukraine historically [54:19.160 --> 54:24.640] has been part of Russia for over 500 to 700 years. [54:24.640 --> 54:39.040] Well, Joe, when you say Ukraine is an independent country has only changed within the last 20 [54:39.040 --> 54:40.040] years. [54:40.040 --> 54:41.040] That's all. [54:41.040 --> 54:42.040] Historically. [54:42.040 --> 54:48.480] Well, yeah, Nikita Khrushchev, what did he do? [54:48.480 --> 54:55.320] Did he help create the independent republic of the Ukraine or did he just add some Russian [54:55.320 --> 54:56.640] territory to it? [54:56.640 --> 55:02.320] Well, actually, Ukraine as a country was, it was just an area. [55:02.320 --> 55:05.420] It was a region in Russia. [55:05.420 --> 55:11.120] It was never a country until after the Russian Revolution in World War II. [55:11.120 --> 55:16.600] And when the Russians signed a peace treaty with the Germans, the Germans actually were [55:16.600 --> 55:23.040] more instrumental in creating Ukraine at the Treaty of Brest-Litov. [55:23.040 --> 55:29.760] And what I don't have this quite clear, but Webster talked about on the show, they did [55:29.760 --> 55:33.480] it to stick it to the Russians and they did it to try to get some food out of the place. [55:33.480 --> 55:38.120] But what the Russians did, that's why anybody does anything anymore, is to stick it to the [55:38.120 --> 55:39.120] Russians. [55:39.120 --> 55:47.440] Well, when the Germans created the state of Ukraine, what the Russians did, the Bolsheviks, [55:47.440 --> 55:51.720] they took over the Rada and declaimed a People's Republic of Ukraine. [55:51.720 --> 55:54.560] So that's how Ukraine was created. [55:54.560 --> 56:03.440] It was a German idea, but the communists got in there and declaimed a People's Republic [56:03.440 --> 56:14.440] of Ukraine for the Soviets, and it remained the Soviets, Russia allowed it to be a province [56:14.440 --> 56:18.000] of a Republic of the Soviet Union. [56:18.000 --> 56:19.760] So that's how it was created. [56:19.760 --> 56:27.000] But historically, if you look at a map, an 18th century map, Ukraine is not even a country, [56:27.000 --> 56:28.960] or I think it's a 17th century map. [56:28.960 --> 56:30.320] It's not even a country. [56:30.320 --> 56:38.680] It's just a region near the Dnieper River, you know, and people who spoke the dialect [56:38.680 --> 56:43.120] of Ukrainian, a Russian dialect, it's not even a country. [56:43.120 --> 56:48.480] Out on the Western part, you know, it's interesting, Joe, that you say, you know, you're tweeting [56:48.480 --> 56:54.920] all this stuff, and a lot of people have been listening to you or getting your tweets, probably [56:54.920 --> 56:58.480] getting information, but now you're starting to get trolled, you're starting to get these [56:58.480 --> 57:02.920] people that are, you know, attacking you for what you're saying. [57:02.920 --> 57:05.960] You know what they say about it, Joe. [57:05.960 --> 57:14.080] You know, when you get, yeah, you know, you're getting close to the target when you start [57:14.080 --> 57:16.000] taking on flak, right? [57:16.000 --> 57:24.040] Oh, well, I will tell you what happened this week with Brennan in Kiev, a drone king, Brennan [57:24.040 --> 57:27.280] in Kiev, CIA drone king. [57:27.280 --> 57:32.000] The drone king was in Kiev this last weekend. [57:32.000 --> 57:33.000] And I first thought- [57:33.000 --> 57:37.360] Yeah, you know, one second, Joe, before you go into it, it's interesting you say that [57:37.360 --> 57:43.320] because the propaganda and the lies and the false flag stuff is coming out so fast and [57:43.320 --> 57:47.760] furious, and there's a reason for it because they want to push this other stuff off the [57:47.760 --> 57:48.760] front page. [57:48.760 --> 57:53.440] Now, you've got a lot of bad press coming out of the Ukraine. [57:53.440 --> 58:00.640] Just in the last couple of days, our CIA directors snuck over there to do what, right? [58:00.640 --> 58:04.400] And then they lied about it, and then they got busted with that. [58:04.400 --> 58:10.800] And now units of the Ukrainian military are, you know, joining the pro-Russian Ukrainians [58:10.800 --> 58:12.360] and abandoning the coup. [58:12.360 --> 58:14.560] That's another bad thing you've got to get off the front pages. [58:14.560 --> 58:17.760] Maybe that's why we've got this stupid leaflet thing showing up right now, huh? [58:17.760 --> 58:22.160] Yeah, what a coincidence, Brennan's in Ukraine on the weekend and we have this leaflet come [58:22.160 --> 58:23.160] out. [58:23.160 --> 58:25.500] What a coincidence. [58:25.500 --> 58:27.960] Maybe he brought it with him. [58:27.960 --> 58:30.360] Maybe he brought a bunch of it with him in his suitcase. [58:30.360 --> 58:32.480] You know, they say that he even used a false identity. [58:32.480 --> 58:36.640] Our CIA director went to the Ukraine to meet with the illegitimate government there that [58:36.640 --> 58:41.200] they helped install over the weekend, and he goes on a false identity. [58:41.200 --> 58:45.000] And then when the report comes out, the U.S. lies about it until they can't lie and not [58:45.000 --> 58:46.000] have to admit it happened. [58:46.000 --> 58:50.720] We'll be right back with Joe Calhoun right after this. 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[01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:12.200] Science teacher and wrestling coach Mark Black grabbed a student around the legs as the two [01:01:12.200 --> 01:01:17.680] crashed into desks, eventually ending up on the floor in a disturbing display as fellow [01:01:17.680 --> 01:01:20.800] students looked on. [01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:27.880] A representative from the Santa Monica Malibu Unified School District said that the incident [01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:31.240] escalated after a disagreement involving drugs. [01:01:31.240 --> 01:01:36.200] Initially following the video's release, the school superintendent, Sandra Leon, suspended [01:01:36.200 --> 01:01:40.080] the teacher and issued a statement saying that the school would support the student [01:01:40.080 --> 01:01:41.400] and his family. [01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:46.480] However, Leon's statement was retracted after a parental uproar condemned her for acting [01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:52.480] before all the facts were known. 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[01:03:35.720 --> 01:03:40.400] Tom Kiley, INN World Report Radio, Tuesday and Thursday nights here on the Great Logos [01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:41.400] Radio Network. [01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:42.400] Joe Calhoun is our guest. [01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:47.280] He joins us from Colorado, where he's been monitoring this Ukrainian situation. [01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:53.560] Joe, right before the break, we were talking about this bombshell of a stupid story about [01:03:53.560 --> 01:04:04.360] a leaflet allegedly distributed in the Eastern Ukraine by pro-Russian Ukrainians. [01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:11.760] That means the Ukrainians who are not in control of the CIA, who are trying to do this, who [01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:16.240] overthrew the elected government there, but the people who don't like that overthrow, [01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:17.240] supposedly. [01:04:17.240 --> 01:04:23.880] A leaflet being distributed to Jews on Passover in the Ukraine, reminiscent, fully reminiscent [01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:31.480] of the Nazi Holocaust, totally a hot button issue, gives John Kerry the ability to make [01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.480] these crazy statements. [01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:35.480] And why? [01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:43.120] Let's look at why, because this is a really bad week, isn't it, Joe, for the neocons? [01:04:43.120 --> 01:04:47.400] And I think I had a part to do with it being a bad week on Twitter. [01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.280] Yeah, why don't you tell about that? [01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:56.320] You got that ball rolling about that whole story about CIA Director John Brennan sneaking [01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:01.120] into the Ukraine to meet with our new puppets there, huh? [01:05:01.120 --> 01:05:06.760] Well, I might be seen in more to it about my involvement than there is, but it seems [01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:10.800] like I did, because it was early in the morning. [01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:11.800] What was it? [01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:18.680] It was on Sunday morning, yes, it was Sunday morning, there was this tweet about John Brennan [01:05:18.680 --> 01:05:22.600] had snuck into Ukraine using a false identity. [01:05:22.600 --> 01:05:30.000] So I looked at the link on the tweet and it was from the Russian news agency Interfax. [01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:35.160] But it was only one paragraph, you know, it was kind of like rumor has it, sources say, [01:05:35.160 --> 01:05:40.640] you know, unconfirmed report of John Brennan being in Kiev. [01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:45.280] Well, I didn't want to retweet that, you know, because you get immediately trolled that, [01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:50.200] oh, this is just Russian propaganda, this is, you know, crap. [01:05:50.200 --> 01:05:59.640] And so early in the morning, we get George Stephanopoulos out here on Sunday at 8am. [01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:02.880] So he kind of led that story about Ukraine. [01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:08.240] And then he said to his correspondent that there's a report that John Brennan was in [01:06:08.240 --> 01:06:13.840] Kiev this weekend, and she says, oh, well, yeah, that comes from a Russian Interfax source. [01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:18.160] But then George Stephanopoulos kind of smiled and said, well, yeah, it does. [01:06:18.160 --> 01:06:25.040] But according to the CIA, the CIA has neither confirmed or denied it, you know. [01:06:25.040 --> 01:06:32.080] And so he kind of gave out this idea that, right, you know, when the CIA doesn't confirm [01:06:32.080 --> 01:06:36.400] or deny something, usually it's true. [01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:46.320] And so what I did with my tweet, I put in ABC News, CIA drone king John Brennan in Kiev [01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:52.040] to help coordinate, to help the assault on East Ukraine. [01:06:52.040 --> 01:07:00.240] So now you said that you extrapolated that from George Stephanopoulos' snicker that [01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:02.480] the CIA neither confirmed or denied it. [01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:03.960] OK, so go ahead. [01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:04.960] OK. [01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:05.960] So what happens? [01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:11.000] Well, it's retweeted and retweeted and retweeted, and I get instantly trolled. [01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:15.400] You're a Russian, you know, you're a Kremlin agent, you're this, that, and the other thing. [01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:16.400] OK? [01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:18.680] I mean, it was very quick. [01:07:18.680 --> 01:07:22.440] You know, usually it takes, you know, about a half an hour for you to get these trolls, [01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:25.000] but it was almost instantaneous. [01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:34.320] Then about an hour later, someone from ABC News called Meekwire, I think it's James, [01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:39.800] I can't remember his name, but he's, I can't remember his position, ABC News, about an [01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:52.680] hour later tweeted, CIA denies Brennan was in Kiev to help assault on Eastern Ukraine. [01:07:52.680 --> 01:07:56.320] They denied he was there for that, but they didn't deny he was there, or they denied [01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:58.320] that he was in Ukraine? [01:07:58.320 --> 01:07:59.320] Right. [01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:07.600] So then, later in the day, Lavrov, you know, it gets tweeted out that Lavrov wants to know [01:08:07.600 --> 01:08:08.600] what was John- [01:08:08.600 --> 01:08:11.400] Lavrov is the Russian foreign minister, right? [01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:12.560] Foreign minister. [01:08:12.560 --> 01:08:18.320] So that gets on later in the day, and I don't know if it was Monday or I think it was Monday [01:08:18.320 --> 01:08:26.040] finally, the CIA confirmed that John Brennan was in Kiev, but denied, but denied that he [01:08:26.040 --> 01:08:30.240] was there to help the Kiev push- [01:08:30.240 --> 01:08:31.240] Push. [01:08:31.240 --> 01:08:32.240] Push. [01:08:32.240 --> 01:08:39.920] Yeah, you can see why he went, it's like, you guys got to get this thing under control, [01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:43.920] your army isn't deserting you, your police aren't following orders, this doesn't look [01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:44.920] good on CNN. [01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:49.800] So it looks like when I put out, you know, instead of saying Interfax, when I put out [01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:56.840] ABC News, I got a reaction that kind of snowballed on Twitter, you know, when you quote an American [01:08:56.840 --> 01:09:04.760] source, instead of a Russian source, the thing is, is that, what was it, Zero Hedge put out [01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:17.120] a little blog that said the CIA had better, you know, what do you call it, omit the facts [01:09:17.120 --> 01:09:24.360] or the Russians or Ukrainians might come out with a telephone intercept that confirms it. [01:09:24.360 --> 01:09:28.960] And you know, that's funny because, you know, we're not the only one, our government is [01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:34.160] not the only ones who has this technology of snooping on everybody, okay? [01:09:34.160 --> 01:09:39.360] And it looks to me like Vladimir Putin, you know, now after all, a guy ran, I think he [01:09:39.360 --> 01:09:45.120] ran the KGB, if not was a high official in the KGB, he knows all about this stuff, he's [01:09:45.120 --> 01:09:49.680] been playing rope-a-dope, right, he's been letting the Americans do what they want. [01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:54.840] And then they come out with these intercepts, which show them to be flat out liars. [01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:55.840] Yeah. [01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.000] So maybe that's, you're right, maybe that's spooking them now. [01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:05.760] I've gotten more news from that type of information on Twitter than I've gotten from The Intercept, [01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:11.560] the thing founded by Glenn Greenwald, Omidyar, Pierre Omidyar, and Jeremy Scahill. [01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:14.000] Oh yeah, they're in a box. [01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:15.000] Those people are in a box. [01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.480] They're getting paid by this American oligarch, Omidyar, who, you know, what was he, PayPal [01:10:19.480 --> 01:10:25.720] or something, and got lots of money, put a quarter of a billion dollars into this really [01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:29.920] cool news thing, you know, and they can't talk about it. [01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:34.240] And it turns out, Odymar, the guy who started this thing, paid Glenn Greenwald, also put [01:10:34.240 --> 01:10:37.440] all his money into the revolution in the Ukraine. [01:10:37.440 --> 01:10:39.000] What are they going to say about it? [01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:45.400] Our boss is, you know, fomenting revolution in the Ukraine and, you know, what are they [01:10:45.400 --> 01:10:46.400] going to do? [01:10:46.400 --> 01:10:47.400] Yeah. [01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:50.120] Our boss is supporting the right sector Nazis in Ukraine. [01:10:50.120 --> 01:10:51.120] Yeah. [01:10:51.120 --> 01:10:53.680] What are we going to do? [01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:57.880] And the thing is, is that it was so funny as I looked at the tweets of, I didn't check [01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:05.200] Greenwald's tweets on Ukraine, but there's next to nothing, Scahill, his Twitter handle, [01:11:05.200 --> 01:11:14.120] his last tweet was after he lost the Academy Award for his movie, Dirty Wars, his last [01:11:14.120 --> 01:11:17.880] tweet was just thanking all the people that supported him in the movie, and I think that [01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:18.880] was March 4th. [01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:19.880] So, great. [01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:26.080] You're talking about Jeremy Scahill, the guy who, you know, made his bones on Democracy [01:11:26.080 --> 01:11:32.160] Now with Amy Goodman, and he's the guy who did all the Blackwater reporting and stuff [01:11:32.160 --> 01:11:36.720] in The Mercenary, you know, good reporting, but then he goes and he makes this movie, [01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:40.000] Dirty Wars, and he forgets to mention the CIA in it. [01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.400] It's got a lot of criticism, especially from what, Peter Valentine? [01:11:43.400 --> 01:11:48.480] Peter Valentine, and then he forgets to mention the death squads in Libya and Blackwater in [01:11:48.480 --> 01:11:56.280] Syria, and Blackwater in the Ukraine, you know, like what Webster calls, Webster Tarpley [01:11:56.280 --> 01:11:58.200] calls a limited hangout. [01:11:58.200 --> 01:12:07.320] You have some good stuff, but you marginalize the extent of the crime, you know. [01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:11.400] Friends, if you're just tuning in now, this part, you know, it's a little bit rambling, [01:12:11.400 --> 01:12:13.400] and I'm sorry, it's a little bit like inside baseball. [01:12:13.400 --> 01:12:15.080] I know exactly what Joe's talking about. [01:12:15.080 --> 01:12:23.320] You may not, this section of the discussion is concerning the pro-war left and especially [01:12:23.320 --> 01:12:29.920] their alternative media stars like Democracy Now and Jeremy Scahill and Glenn Greenwald, [01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:35.800] who you know, come out like a house on fire and they present some great information, but [01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:39.560] then they fall right in line behind the neocons subsequently. [01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:45.960] They're all behind the war being cooked up and served to the Syrian people. [01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:51.080] I guess they were behind the whole thing that happened in Libya, democracy, democracy, democracy [01:12:51.080 --> 01:12:54.480] is all you have to say, and these people get behind it. [01:12:54.480 --> 01:12:55.480] I don't know exactly why. [01:12:55.480 --> 01:13:00.440] I don't know if they're dupes or if they're, you know, on the payroll or maybe a little [01:13:00.440 --> 01:13:01.440] bit of both. [01:13:01.440 --> 01:13:02.440] What do you think, Joe? [01:13:02.440 --> 01:13:03.800] Why do these people do this kind of stuff? [01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:09.400] I know that they're beholden in some cases to these large donations from these large [01:13:09.400 --> 01:13:15.520] foundations, which have been known to be funnels for conduits for CIA money in the past for [01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:16.520] this kind of stuff. [01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:19.400] Tom, you just answered your own question. [01:13:19.400 --> 01:13:24.560] They sold out to celebrity. [01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:28.600] The other thing, I have to give a kudos to Amy Goodman though. [01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:31.520] And this is a first, well, maybe a second. [01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:40.000] Amy Goodman finally got an education by Seymour Hersh about who was using poison gas in Syria. [01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:44.880] Right after she allowed Seymour Hersh to come on and talk about how all evidence points [01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:53.720] to the CIA-backed rebels used the gas, the chemical weapons on civilians. [01:13:53.720 --> 01:14:02.920] After she did that, a few months later, Jeremy Scahill bars Blackball's sister Marion Agnes [01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:11.280] Delacroix from speaking at an anti-war rally conference in Britain. [01:14:11.280 --> 01:14:14.640] He tells the conference in Britain that he won't be their keynote speaker if she [01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.680] attends that conference. [01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:18.680] Amy Goodman- [01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:20.160] One second, one second. [01:14:20.160 --> 01:14:21.960] Joe, what came first? [01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:30.180] The conference that Scahill threatened to torpedo, if somebody came who contradicted [01:14:30.180 --> 01:14:36.960] what he has to say, or Seymour Hersh setting his mentor, Amy Goodman, straight on Democracy [01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:37.960] Now, which came first? [01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:45.040] I would think that Seymour Hersh, his information is relatively new compared to sister Agnes's, [01:14:45.040 --> 01:14:46.040] no? [01:14:46.040 --> 01:14:47.040] Joe Goodman- [01:14:47.040 --> 01:14:50.480] Well, I'm trying to remember actually right now, because it was in September when all [01:14:50.480 --> 01:14:52.600] this thing, we were going to go to war. [01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:56.440] And I think, you know, I'll have to check with Seymour Hersh first came out on Democracy [01:14:56.440 --> 01:14:57.440] Now. [01:14:57.440 --> 01:14:58.440] Amy Goodman- [01:14:58.440 --> 01:15:03.600] I don't know when he came out on Democracy Now, but his big reportage on the fake sarin [01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:07.680] gas attack story in Syria, I think is relatively new. [01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:10.200] I think it doesn't go as far back as Scahill. [01:15:10.200 --> 01:15:14.680] Now, friends, again, this is a little Inside Baseball, so let me clear up real quick. [01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:15.680] You know, Jeremy Scahill- [01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:16.680] Joe Goodman- [01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:20.680] The first report, the second report just came out last a few weeks ago. [01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:21.680] Amy Goodman- [01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:22.680] Right, and that's more definitive. [01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:23.680] Joe Goodman- [01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:24.680] I'll have to check. [01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:25.680] I'll have to check. [01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:26.680] You might be right. [01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:29.680] Because it's around that same time. [01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:30.680] Amy Goodman- [01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:34.280] Let me recap this, because again, Joe, it's a little bit Inside Baseball. [01:15:34.280 --> 01:15:38.800] Listeners, what we're talking about here is, you know, the fake gas attack in Syria. [01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:46.080] Just like this leaflet, you know, this is the fake gas attack version happening in Ukraine, [01:15:46.080 --> 01:15:47.880] this anti-Semitic leaflet. [01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:52.120] You know, that's a real hot button issue, like poison gas on kids is a hot button issue. [01:15:52.120 --> 01:15:53.120] Okay. [01:15:53.120 --> 01:15:57.940] John Kerry, same behavior in both instances, rushes out to the microphones, this is terrible. [01:15:57.940 --> 01:15:59.200] This will not stand. [01:15:59.200 --> 01:16:00.560] It smells like a rat. [01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:04.680] Why would the Syrians use poison gas on their own people when they're winning their war [01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:07.560] that we're pushing in their own country? [01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:11.960] They invite UN inspectors to come in to check for nerve gas and stuff. [01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:14.280] And then why would they do this right under their nose? [01:16:14.280 --> 01:16:15.280] It's stupid. [01:16:15.280 --> 01:16:16.280] Okay. [01:16:16.280 --> 01:16:20.200] Yet, John Kerry, just like this leaflet is stupid, John Kerry's out there screaming. [01:16:20.200 --> 01:16:30.040] So the sister, Maryam De La Crosse, a Catholic nun in Syria, she does an investigation, said [01:16:30.040 --> 01:16:35.720] it's all baloney, and they invite her to a peace conference in London last winter to [01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:36.720] tell about it. [01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.840] And Jeremy Scahill is going to be there, the darling of democracy now. [01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:46.160] And he throws a fit and says, well, if this nun comes to talk about how fake this poison [01:16:46.160 --> 01:16:48.400] gas attack was, I'm not going to speak. [01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:49.680] So she had to withdraw. [01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:53.760] And now months later, everybody knows it was fake. [01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:55.320] Thank you, Sister Maryam. [01:16:55.320 --> 01:16:57.120] Anyway, Joe Calhoun is with us. [01:16:57.120 --> 01:17:00.880] We'll be right back with him just after this. [01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:02.320] My name is Jessica Arman. 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[01:19:55.200 --> 01:20:03.320] That's maybe the Neocon plan in the Ukraine, causing trouble, causing trouble, sticking [01:20:03.320 --> 01:20:05.320] it to the Russians. [01:20:05.320 --> 01:20:09.120] Now, Joe, you've been accused of this too. [01:20:09.120 --> 01:20:17.520] Because you're standing up for what's right and true, the people who want to gain an advantage [01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:23.440] all over the world are going to try to paint you as being a sympathizer of the Russians [01:20:23.440 --> 01:20:26.280] or this or that and the other thing. [01:20:26.280 --> 01:20:31.680] And I know you well enough, correct me if I'm wrong, you're like I am on this. [01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:38.240] No place in the world is perfect, but we don't have any more right to go and interfere in [01:20:38.240 --> 01:20:42.500] Russia's backyard than they do to come and interfere in our backyard. [01:20:42.500 --> 01:20:48.240] And no matter where you go in the world, if you have enough money, you can pay splitters, [01:20:48.240 --> 01:20:54.520] you can pay separatists, you can pay discontented people, you can pay crazy people to start [01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:59.860] trouble and make it look like, you know, there's oppression and that sort of stuff. [01:20:59.860 --> 01:21:03.160] Not that there isn't oppression, there's that too. [01:21:03.160 --> 01:21:08.320] But you're saying you're starting to get some of that in your tweets, they're accusing [01:21:08.320 --> 01:21:11.920] you of what, like you're trying to bring back the Cold War, no? [01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:19.760] Oh my God, it's like people sound like Joe McCarthy on their tweets to me. [01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:23.240] Who wrote that, who's writing this for you? [01:21:23.240 --> 01:21:27.320] Who's paying you to say this on Twitter? [01:21:27.320 --> 01:21:30.960] And I come back and I say, it sounds like Joe McCarthy all over again and some of these [01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.560] people are too young to know who in the hell Joe McCarthy was. [01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:41.360] And the same with Stephen Cohen, he's been giving to his credit, somehow has gotten on [01:21:41.360 --> 01:21:46.440] the mainstream media to give Chris Hayes an education about Ukraine. [01:21:46.440 --> 01:21:53.680] And fortunately, Amy Goodman has had him on several times now, and she has, and Juan Gonzalez [01:21:53.680 --> 01:22:02.880] have finally gotten an education about Ukraine and these Gene Sharp, Albert Einstein, U.S. [01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:08.440] manufactured colored revolutions that have gone on for the last, what, 10, 15 years? [01:22:08.440 --> 01:22:11.120] I can't even remember when it started. [01:22:11.120 --> 01:22:19.960] You know, all these pro-war lefties, okay, and friends, I'm speaking as a progressive [01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:24.560] liberal person from Brooklyn, New York of all places, it doesn't get much more liberal [01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:27.660] than that in this country, they may be Massachusetts, I don't know. [01:22:27.660 --> 01:22:33.000] But Joe, all these pro-war lefties that are going along with this Arab Spring phony baloney [01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:41.680] stuff and, you know, Libya, democracy, Syria, democracy, Ukraine, democracy, democracy, [01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:48.440] how come they're not like sticking their heads out the upper floor window yelling, when are [01:22:48.440 --> 01:22:51.240] we going to have democracy in Cuba? [01:22:51.240 --> 01:22:57.760] How come they leave Cuba off the list of places that, you know, there should be a revolution? [01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:00.920] You ever think of that? [01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:08.000] Oh, well, you know, it's like, it's like the exact same things, and this is where on [01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:13.680] Abby Martin's show, she had Tom Hayden, who's going to be in New York City at the end of [01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:17.600] the month at the Left Forum, he's going to be one of the keynote speakers along with [01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:26.160] Angela Davis, and he tried to cushion his remarks to Abby Martin to explain, he didn't [01:23:26.160 --> 01:23:31.520] quite go into it, but that the same thing that's going on in Venezuela with the street [01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:43.040] protests against the government there are the same neocon types that are, would be like [01:23:43.040 --> 01:23:47.480] the Tea Party, you know, a minority in this country, the Tea Party going and storming [01:23:47.480 --> 01:23:53.680] the gates of the White House and demanding the overthrow of the government, you know. [01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:58.880] And so I was hoping he was going to talk about Ukraine and tie it to Ukraine, because Abby [01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:07.680] Martin has been more or less a silent apologist for these neo-Nazis in Ukraine. [01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:18.120] She hasn't, when she came out about criticizing the Russians for Crimea, she has only spent, [01:24:18.120 --> 01:24:29.880] I counted it, 45 seconds on Ukraine on events that didn't involve her, and 15 seconds on [01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:33.680] John Brennan being in Ukraine, the CIA drone king. [01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:34.680] The other- [01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:38.840] All right, hold on one second, one second, inside baseball alert, inside baseball alert. [01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:46.680] Okay, friends, if you don't know, Joe is referring to a young woman who's a commentator on Russia [01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:47.680] Today. [01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:53.480] I think she came up with the We Are Change People in San Diego, was at one point, I believe, [01:24:53.480 --> 01:25:02.000] a 9-11 truth-er, but, you know, she got herself onto Russia Today, and congratulations. [01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.420] And she has a show on there called Breaking the Set. [01:25:05.420 --> 01:25:11.120] And it's a really interesting show, Joe, because first of all, you know, she's a young person [01:25:11.120 --> 01:25:18.440] full of, you know, righteous indignation about a lot of important subjects that we cover [01:25:18.440 --> 01:25:19.440] on this show. [01:25:19.440 --> 01:25:23.200] She has had a lot of similar, of the same guests that I've covered over the years, probably [01:25:23.200 --> 01:25:28.480] when she was back in high school or something, on her show, and, you know, I give her a lot [01:25:28.480 --> 01:25:29.880] of credit for trying and everything. [01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:38.160] But then she came out with the totally wrong take on this Crimean situation, and it exposed, [01:25:38.160 --> 01:25:42.600] I think, I hope, anyway, a lot of naivete on her part. [01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:45.640] I doubt if it's because she's an operative. [01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:49.800] But then she kind of got slammed, and I guess she hasn't talked about it too much. [01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:53.240] That's the person you're talking about when you mean Abby Martins, correct? [01:25:53.240 --> 01:25:59.360] Yeah, but to her credit, she did initially a few days after she, you know, made her claim [01:25:59.360 --> 01:26:07.400] to fame of being on Piers Morgan's CNN to talk about this and other outlets, like there's [01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:08.400] an interesting take. [01:26:08.400 --> 01:26:11.560] I won't get into it, because it's also inside ballgame stuff. [01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:21.120] But after she did that, to her credit, she did have Alexei Yaroshevsky on, who was actually [01:26:21.120 --> 01:26:23.120] on the ground in Crimea. [01:26:23.120 --> 01:26:25.520] And so she had one segment on him. [01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:32.320] Then she had Eric Dreitzer, who's been on your program, debate with somebody. [01:26:32.320 --> 01:26:33.320] And that's it. [01:26:33.320 --> 01:26:38.840] That did her some total thing about Ukraine, except for how she became a media star with [01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:45.640] her comment, how she got in to be the center, not the centerfold, but a center article in [01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:56.000] the Rolling Stone about her being this badass, what, anti-Putin star on Russia today. [01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:57.000] And so... [01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.000] Well, this is how it happened. [01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:03.760] It starts out as a young, hip person who, you know, is talking good sense, and then [01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:04.760] they start to stray. [01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:07.880] And when they do, then all of a sudden the mainstream media makes him a darling, you [01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:08.880] know? [01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:10.200] And it's kind of like what they're doing with Jeremy Scahill. [01:27:10.200 --> 01:27:13.160] You know, he's on Bill Maher and all that kind of stuff. [01:27:13.160 --> 01:27:17.200] But Joe, we should be clear, shouldn't we, that the reason all of this is happening in [01:27:17.200 --> 01:27:27.920] the first place is because, you know, this country has been so dumbed down and so reduced [01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:38.200] to Twitter's monosyllabic, you know, sentences filled with monosyllabic even, not even words [01:27:38.200 --> 01:27:42.320] anymore, that people don't seem to have the wherewithal, right? [01:27:42.320 --> 01:27:47.960] In other words, all it is is if you say the word democracy, you must be talking about [01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:50.160] something good. [01:27:50.160 --> 01:27:52.000] And they don't teach anybody history anymore. [01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:56.680] I've heard, years ago I heard it, I just saw it again recently, reading in the comments [01:27:56.680 --> 01:28:01.560] somewhere, they stopped teaching you history at World War II in high school. [01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:07.280] Now, of course, a lot of the stuff we're suffering through today happened after World War II, [01:28:07.280 --> 01:28:10.460] you know, when it became the Cold War and then subsequently after that. [01:28:10.460 --> 01:28:17.920] But I can't believe that people like Abby Martin can fall for this stuff. [01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:21.400] All they have to do, it's like they're hypnotized by the word democracy. [01:28:21.400 --> 01:28:23.920] What's your take? [01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:30.480] I think she's going through a bit of an identity crisis now, because she got burned on Twitter [01:28:30.480 --> 01:28:32.360] by yours truly. [01:28:32.360 --> 01:28:35.960] She doesn't say at the end of her program, follow us on Twitter, because she's going [01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:36.960] to see my tweets. [01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.560] They're going to see my tweets regarding her. [01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:50.800] And I've kind of laid off, because, oh, a mutual friend of ours committed suicide. [01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:53.880] And we might talk about that. [01:28:53.880 --> 01:29:00.800] But the thing is, is I think she's going through a bit of an identity crisis about where her [01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:05.600] moral compass is now, as she called it, on this, the issues. [01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:06.600] Well, that's good. [01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:07.600] That's good. [01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:11.960] If your moral compass is screwed up, then you should be going through an identity crisis. [01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:13.840] Hopefully you can get it sorted back out, no? [01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.560] But if you're clueless, you're not going to have a crisis, you're just going to have [01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:18.560] a bad compass, no? [01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:19.560] Yeah. [01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:21.880] And so I'm laying off her for a while. [01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:25.760] I'm going to keep monitoring her reports, of course. [01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:33.920] But so far, she's kind of gone on to mostly social issues and, you know, she's the walrus [01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:41.360] at SeaWorld and the, you know, the Greenwald, Snowden stuff and rap, you know, hip-hop. [01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:45.040] Well, speaking of which, did you see the latest story? [01:29:45.040 --> 01:29:49.480] Snowden asks Putin in Russia, are you spying on Russia? 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[01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:35.280] Fairport Convention, you know, it's so easy these days to get good music, you can download [01:34:35.280 --> 01:34:37.920] it, hopefully you're paying for it so the artists get a little bit of money out of the [01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:43.200] deal, but I recommend everybody get that, so what's it going to cost you, 99 cents [01:34:43.200 --> 01:34:50.200] on iTunes or something, or if you use a better service, I got it for 49 cents, and it's Fairport [01:34:50.200 --> 01:34:54.360] Convention's song, it's Jewel in the Crown, you listen to that, man, they really sock [01:34:54.360 --> 01:34:59.440] it to their British empire, this is a British group, and we are Britannia, jewel in the [01:34:59.440 --> 01:35:07.300] crown, we tear their borders down, we rule an empire, we'll come in with our gun shells, [01:35:07.300 --> 01:35:11.520] our boys will come in with our gun shells for a small slice of their oil wells and on [01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:13.080] and on, it's a great song. [01:35:13.080 --> 01:35:14.080] So Joe. [01:35:14.080 --> 01:35:20.720] I'm glad you brought up some of that, it was very interesting, it just all of a sudden [01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:26.520] reminded me of Bob Dylan's song God on Our Side, and the best rendition of that, if you [01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:36.000] can Google it during the break, is Joan Baez in 1967 in Sweden, she sings Bob Dylan's God [01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:41.000] on Our Side, and it's very prophetic because at the end it talks about we were born to [01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:49.920] hate Russians all of our lives, and if a new war comes, it's them who must die or something [01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:56.760] like that, so it actually, at the end of the song, which is a six minute song, talks about [01:35:56.760 --> 01:36:02.480] Russians and how we're going to have to go to war with the Russians, so- [01:36:02.480 --> 01:36:06.480] We, yeah, we, yeah, yeah, we, I told, you know, my listeners know this story, I was [01:36:06.480 --> 01:36:12.240] face to face with the Russians when I was a kid in the army at the end of the Vietnam [01:36:12.240 --> 01:36:20.000] War stationed in West Berlin, okay, all right, I'm like a young, you know, I was a spec [01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:27.360] four specialist, and I actually came nose to nose with young Russian soldiers my own [01:36:27.360 --> 01:36:34.840] age, okay, when I was transiting from West Berlin out to West Germany by car, you had [01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:39.800] to go with special papers called flag orders, you didn't talk to the East German Volkspolice, [01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:45.600] you drove around them, you went to a separate little off to the side guard house, manned [01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:50.960] by Russian military, and they weren't big shots, they were young guys just like me, [01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:54.280] and we didn't care, we just wanted to trade with each other, we didn't have any problem, [01:36:54.280 --> 01:36:57.280] I looked at these guys and said, these guys are the same like me, they don't want to be [01:36:57.280 --> 01:37:03.240] here in Germany, right, this is a holdover from World War II, I don't have a problem [01:37:03.240 --> 01:37:07.600] with them, they don't have a problem with me, and years later, I'm happy to say I met [01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:14.000] those same guys my own age, not the exact same people, but I have many good Russian [01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:19.040] friends and associates that I've worked with who are my own age, who are also in their [01:37:19.040 --> 01:37:22.560] draft in their military at the same time, and they were supposed to kill me at the drop [01:37:22.560 --> 01:37:28.640] of a hat, like I was supposed to kill them, and it's all BS, so anyways, Joe, but listen, [01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:32.040] before we continue, you mentioned it before, I feel like we should say something about [01:37:32.040 --> 01:37:43.680] it, a mutual acquaintance of ours, Mike Rupert, okay, died the other day, apparently by killing [01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:51.000] himself, at least that we're told, and I think we should mention it, you want to say something [01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:53.720] about Mike Rupert and his passing, Joe? [01:37:53.720 --> 01:38:02.560] Well, Mike Rupert was very good to start leading the charge with the 9-1-1 truth movement, [01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:10.200] but then he changed a little bit, and I don't know why, but it was like, I remember the [01:38:10.200 --> 01:38:17.080] conference that I shared the stage with him in San Francisco in 2004, and I think it was [01:38:17.080 --> 01:38:24.440] either at that conference or another one where he mentioned, I think it might have been in [01:38:24.440 --> 01:38:29.000] Toronto, that he mentioned that there was a certain time period that you had to indict [01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:36.440] Cheney and Bush on 9-1-1, or we had to move on, we had to forget it, and then he started [01:38:36.440 --> 01:38:45.040] on the peak oil thing, and then in his later years, he kind of went into this kind of an [01:38:45.040 --> 01:38:53.800] Armageddon-type paradigm of collapse and how the world is going to collapse because we're [01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:55.360] just ravaging- [01:38:55.360 --> 01:38:56.360] Overpopulation. [01:38:56.360 --> 01:38:58.640] He started to get into the whole eugenics thing. [01:38:58.640 --> 01:38:59.640] Overpopulation. [01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:00.640] Yeah. [01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:08.720] So earlier, he was very good, but it seemed like he kind of got either worked on or sucked [01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:21.000] into it, and then we did invite him to the 2011 9-1-1 conference on Walker Street, and [01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:22.000] that's- [01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:23.520] The INN conference here in New York that we had supposedly- [01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:26.440] And he actually gave a pretty good presentation there. [01:39:26.440 --> 01:39:32.400] Yeah, but Joe, I have to say, I think you start the picture on Mike Ruppert a little [01:39:32.400 --> 01:39:33.400] late. [01:39:33.400 --> 01:39:38.000] It goes back earlier than that when he was clearly a firebrand and was doing some really [01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:39.000] good stuff. [01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:46.840] Mike Ruppert, friends, was an L.A. police department officer with a very, very interesting [01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:47.840] story. [01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:53.000] Now, L.A. has got or had, anyway, one of the most corrupt police departments in the country, [01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:58.120] and he was involved in that, and if you listen to him as a young cop, he talked about knowing [01:39:58.120 --> 01:40:05.160] the guys who were involved in the Robert F. Kennedy assassination, people who were involved [01:40:05.160 --> 01:40:08.920] in destroying evidence and that sort of thing in that. [01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:11.760] They took him in, they thought he was going to be one of theirs, they showed him a lot [01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:20.700] of stuff, and later on, during the whole Iran-Contra situation, when the Contras were shipping [01:40:20.700 --> 01:40:26.080] cocaine in massive quantities up to the United States, and it caused the crack cocaine epidemic [01:40:26.080 --> 01:40:30.720] in Los Angeles, Ruppert was a cop trying to get to the bottom of it and was uncovering [01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:35.920] it and got in a lot of trouble for it and had his life threatened, and he subsequently [01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:42.760] quit the L.A. police department, and he was instrumental in getting Maxine Waters and [01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:49.400] others to hold then-CIA director John Deutch's feet to the fire and have them come out to [01:40:49.400 --> 01:40:51.920] L.A. and say, no, the CIA is not doing this. [01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:58.560] He was behind that, and the CIA promised to get back to him, and they never did, and then [01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:04.040] went from there, he created a website from the wilderness, and then he got into peak [01:41:04.040 --> 01:41:09.640] oil in 9-11, and then he started turning me off, and I had a lot of respect for him, but [01:41:09.640 --> 01:41:14.480] he started to go off the rails, I think, a little bit, and then he ended up on the History [01:41:14.480 --> 01:41:21.120] Channel with this overpopulation, Armageddon, end-of-the-world stuff, and now it seems like [01:41:21.120 --> 01:41:25.840] he's killed himself, I think after a radio show of his last weekend or something. [01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:32.240] I don't even know how, I don't have the details, but I got to tell you, Joe, I've been disappointed [01:41:32.240 --> 01:41:36.280] with Mike Rupert for a long time, to the point where I'm not really... Typically, when I [01:41:36.280 --> 01:41:42.720] see something like this, I start to look into it, was this guy suicided or what? [01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:51.280] I'm not even doing that with Mike because he, I think, for whatever reason, he had a [01:41:51.280 --> 01:41:55.800] difficult period, he ducked out of everything for a while, he went into being a rock and [01:41:55.800 --> 01:42:00.640] roll guy or something like that, and very tormented, I think, although he did a lot [01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:06.120] of good work, but toward the end, I think he was kind of all over the place. [01:42:06.120 --> 01:42:08.840] How does that compare? [01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:15.280] I think so, and I think, my own opinion is that he seemed like he was... It's like I [01:42:15.280 --> 01:42:20.720] have stone says, when you make a stand on something, and it comes out, and you reveal [01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:29.120] a scandal or something, I have stone, who was a commentator, a writer in the 60s during [01:42:29.120 --> 01:42:35.320] the anti-war movement, says, you have to be careful, because once you come out and you [01:42:35.320 --> 01:42:47.920] expose a scandal, you get approached by friends who want to help you and guide you, and I [01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:56.040] think maybe this is what had happened, is that once he revealed a scandal with the CIA [01:42:56.040 --> 01:43:02.400] that was too hot to handle, he got handled himself by... [01:43:02.400 --> 01:43:06.680] Yeah, there's no shortage of that sort of thing. [01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:10.120] In fact, I don't know if you were listening last week, but Barbara Honegger was on the [01:43:10.120 --> 01:43:11.120] show. [01:43:11.120 --> 01:43:12.680] Did you catch our show with Barbara Honegger last week? [01:43:12.680 --> 01:43:13.680] No, I didn't. [01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:15.400] I have to catch that now. [01:43:15.400 --> 01:43:19.920] Well, listen, on that subject, we got a few seconds left before the break, we got one [01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:27.520] more segment, but listen to this, Barbara Honegger exposed a lot of the Iran part of [01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:33.640] the Iran-Contra scandal, and she really laid it out, and through a mutual friend of hers, [01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:40.880] she was contacted by Fletcher Prouty, who took her to lunch in Washington to discuss [01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:41.880] it. [01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:48.520] She said, Fletcher told her, not only goes along with what you said, but it was mind-boggling, [01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:52.600] but I'm going to keep everybody on the edge of their seat. 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[01:47:25.480 --> 01:47:30.160] But I don't know, I can't say that I really experienced it directly there, but I certainly [01:47:30.160 --> 01:47:35.640] have experienced that sort of treatment from Islamic Americans over here. [01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:37.640] Anyway, Gordon Lightfoot. [01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:47.480] So Joe, you know, we were talking about Mike Rupert and his unfortunate demise. [01:47:47.480 --> 01:47:51.080] But you know, one of the things that he used to talk about a lot that's kind of irksome [01:47:51.080 --> 01:47:53.960] to me actually is this whole peak oil thing. [01:47:53.960 --> 01:47:56.640] Can we talk about that for a moment? [01:47:56.640 --> 01:47:59.640] Sure, sure, go ahead. [01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:03.400] I find, I have very little, pardon me? [01:48:03.400 --> 01:48:08.960] I just want to say that's kind of the point where he kind of dumped 9-1-1 truth and went [01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:10.960] on to peak oil. [01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:20.880] I mean, kind of made that the most important thing and put 9-1-1 kind of on the back burner. [01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:25.280] I find this whole peak oil thing very, very, very irksome. [01:48:25.280 --> 01:48:26.280] And I'll tell you why. [01:48:26.280 --> 01:48:27.280] All right. [01:48:27.280 --> 01:48:29.180] Look, for a couple of reasons. [01:48:29.180 --> 01:48:37.920] First of all, oil, fossil fuel, in my opinion, is dirty. [01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:39.460] It does cause pollution. [01:48:39.460 --> 01:48:45.000] It causes death, especially in places like the South Bronx where, you know, on the cross [01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:49.040] Bronx Expressway and there's traffic jams and there's all kinds of asthma and kids dying [01:48:49.040 --> 01:48:55.880] all around that traffic snarl that happens a couple of times a day, all right? [01:48:55.880 --> 01:48:59.960] It's very difficult on the environment to extract and it causes a lot of problems, especially [01:48:59.960 --> 01:49:01.760] the fracking stuff. [01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:05.640] It's just bad news stuff, okay? [01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:12.200] And there are much better ways to power things that are cleaner and more efficient and more [01:49:12.200 --> 01:49:14.960] renewable. [01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:19.760] So it should be dumped oil for that reason alone. [01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:20.760] That's it. [01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:24.560] I don't need anybody to tell me it should be dumped because it's going to run out. [01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:26.320] I don't care. [01:49:26.320 --> 01:49:30.240] I think back in the Arab oil embargo when I was a kid in the Army in the 70s, you know, [01:49:30.240 --> 01:49:33.000] that was that we should have, we were all talking, you know, we're going to have to [01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:34.000] figure out something new. [01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:35.360] Never happened, did it? [01:49:35.360 --> 01:49:36.440] All right. [01:49:36.440 --> 01:49:39.920] So I don't need somebody to tell me we have to get off of oil because it's going to run [01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:40.920] out. [01:49:40.920 --> 01:49:45.200] We've got to get off oil well before that because it's just bad news stuff, in my opinion, [01:49:45.200 --> 01:49:46.200] okay? [01:49:46.200 --> 01:49:52.640] However, having said that, it makes much more sense to me that the whole concept of peak [01:49:52.640 --> 01:49:59.320] oil could very well be being put out by the oil people to justify gouging us and charging [01:49:59.320 --> 01:50:02.080] more and more expensive prices. [01:50:02.080 --> 01:50:07.280] So the fact that somebody like that has to get off into a tangent about, and they keep [01:50:07.280 --> 01:50:10.880] moving the goalposts, you know, we were supposed to run out of oil at the end of the 70s and [01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:15.840] the end of the 80s and the end of the 90s, you know, oil, oil, oil, and, you know, now [01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:18.440] they even, some people think it's not even a fossil thing. [01:50:18.440 --> 01:50:22.480] It could be, you know, generated at the scenes in the earth where the tectonic plates come [01:50:22.480 --> 01:50:26.680] together and there may be more of it than we ever dreamed. [01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:29.560] You know, so that's what I feel about this peak oil. [01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:32.920] I don't need somebody to tell me we're going to run out of oil to know that it's a good [01:50:32.920 --> 01:50:34.560] idea to get off of it. [01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:36.560] What do you think? [01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:38.920] Oh, I think so too. [01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:44.080] And, you know, the other thing that Mike Rupert said, and I can remember it because I went [01:50:44.080 --> 01:50:48.320] to his website, Voices of the Wilderness, because people were talking about, hey, we [01:50:48.320 --> 01:50:54.040] should go with wind energy, electric energy, you know, and all this other stuff. [01:50:54.040 --> 01:50:59.600] And he kind of made it, I think it was actually at a 911 conference where he's asked a question. [01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:06.240] He said that, oh no, don't even do that because it's fruitless because with all the solar [01:51:06.240 --> 01:51:13.320] panels, wind generators and everything else, it would only supply 5% of the energy needs. [01:51:13.320 --> 01:51:18.800] And I'm going, well, you know, there's a way to conserve energy where we don't, you [01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:21.760] know, we don't, we can do mass transit and things like this. [01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:27.400] We don't have to have everybody having their own helicopter or car, you know, to do things. [01:51:27.400 --> 01:51:40.360] And so he downplayed trying to even use alternative methods to reduce our dependency on fossil [01:51:40.360 --> 01:51:41.360] fuels. [01:51:41.360 --> 01:51:42.360] I thought that was... [01:51:42.360 --> 01:51:46.040] And not only that, Joe, but that was, you know, when a guy like that says something, [01:51:46.040 --> 01:51:49.600] he's talking about technology as it is today, right? [01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:50.600] He can't be omniscient. [01:51:50.600 --> 01:51:54.240] He can't sit there and tell me, oh, we shouldn't get into alternatives because they'll only [01:51:54.240 --> 01:51:55.240] do 5%. [01:51:55.240 --> 01:52:00.040] But maybe with your limited knowledge of what's capable today, what about Tesla? [01:52:00.040 --> 01:52:03.120] You know, as a matter of fact, I found a movie on Netflix about him and I watched it the [01:52:03.120 --> 01:52:07.160] other night, Tesla, you know, it was very interesting, a dramatic presentation about [01:52:07.160 --> 01:52:08.160] him. [01:52:08.160 --> 01:52:09.160] And they were all in there. [01:52:09.160 --> 01:52:12.360] Westinghouse was in there and JP Morgan was in there and everything. [01:52:12.360 --> 01:52:17.000] And he's, you know, Tesla had all these great plans and stuff, you know, mother nature, [01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:24.280] what the heck does mother nature need to produce a lightning bolt of energy out of the air [01:52:24.280 --> 01:52:28.520] and the electrons and the molecules in the air that we breathe? [01:52:28.520 --> 01:52:32.960] Mother nature doesn't seem to have a problem. [01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:36.600] I think there's actually, I don't know, maybe it was Abby Martin, I can't remember, it [01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:37.600] was Russia today. [01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:44.080] But the fact that they're having a cost-effective way of extracting hydrogen out of water to [01:52:44.080 --> 01:52:53.200] make it cost-effective to power, we have an unlimited supply of that, you know, because [01:52:53.200 --> 01:52:56.040] all the water that comes on the earth is from comets. [01:52:56.040 --> 01:53:00.160] And we have micro comets hitting the earth all the time. [01:53:00.160 --> 01:53:07.840] So it's almost like we have an unlimited supply of hydrogen that we can use. [01:53:07.840 --> 01:53:08.840] Interesting. [01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:12.120] Well, Lord knows if global warming is true, we're going to have more water than we're [01:53:12.120 --> 01:53:14.920] going to know what to do with when the polar ice caps melt, huh? [01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:15.920] How about that? [01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:21.480] Yeah, I can't, why can't we extract the heat out of the air and use that as a, you know? [01:53:21.480 --> 01:53:27.160] Yeah, when I was a kid, when I was a kid, you know, they used to try to wow us with [01:53:27.160 --> 01:53:31.800] statistics and, you know, they'd tell you, you know, within a lightning bolt, there's [01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:35.480] enough electricity to run a village of X amount of people, you know? [01:53:35.480 --> 01:53:36.480] Right. [01:53:36.480 --> 01:53:37.480] Really? [01:53:37.480 --> 01:53:43.320] Well, how many times does a lightning bolt strike the earth in one minute all around [01:53:43.320 --> 01:53:44.320] the planet? [01:53:44.320 --> 01:53:46.480] How many times does lightning bolts come down out of the blue? [01:53:46.480 --> 01:53:48.800] You know, there's electricity all around us. [01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:50.920] We can figure out a way to get to it. [01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:56.880] How many times does the, do the tides ebb and flow, you know, you, you could generate [01:53:56.880 --> 01:53:57.880] that? [01:53:57.880 --> 01:53:58.880] Well, you know, the Germans are doing that. [01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:02.600] The Germans are putting those turbines in the water and, you know, they're, they're putting [01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:05.040] the wind generation up and everything else. [01:54:05.040 --> 01:54:07.080] It's, it can happen. [01:54:07.080 --> 01:54:08.080] Pardon? [01:54:08.080 --> 01:54:12.300] I tell you, there's more wind in Wyoming than there is coal. [01:54:12.300 --> 01:54:16.840] You could turn the whole state of Wyoming into a wind generator and it'd probably power [01:54:16.840 --> 01:54:21.840] at least the Western half of the United States. [01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:25.000] Well I know that, you know, somebody's not going to make a buck off of it, you know, [01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:26.000] so I'm surprised. [01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:30.440] I worked in Wyoming and it's the windiest state in the country. [01:54:30.440 --> 01:54:37.120] Cheyenne, Wyoming is actually really the windy city, not Chicago. [01:54:37.120 --> 01:54:39.800] And you see, you know, Wyoming is wind generator zone. [01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:43.500] There's all, there's all kinds of ways of extracting, you know, mother nature figures [01:54:43.500 --> 01:54:46.040] out how to do it without anything. [01:54:46.040 --> 01:54:50.000] You know, we ought to be able to figure it out too, but, and then, you know, then my [01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:55.400] friends start calling me and emailing me, you know, that we already know how to do it. [01:54:55.400 --> 01:54:56.400] It's being suppressed. [01:54:56.400 --> 01:54:57.400] And then there's the... [01:54:57.400 --> 01:55:02.560] And then I get the aliens crowd, you know, the reverse engineering of the crashed spacecraft [01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:04.240] that come here. [01:55:04.240 --> 01:55:06.960] And that's another thing I have an issue with. [01:55:06.960 --> 01:55:12.200] What about you on the aliens? [01:55:12.200 --> 01:55:14.640] I don't want to start. [01:55:14.640 --> 01:55:15.640] I'm going to start. [01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:16.640] Let me tell you. [01:55:16.640 --> 01:55:17.640] Here's what I have. [01:55:17.640 --> 01:55:20.800] Here's a problem I have about the whole theory that the aliens have been here trying to help [01:55:20.800 --> 01:55:24.680] humanity with all this great technology that they have, but they're being suppressed by [01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:25.680] our oligarchy. [01:55:25.680 --> 01:55:26.680] Okay. [01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:27.680] All right. [01:55:27.680 --> 01:55:34.720] Now, the problem I have with that is number one, I think, you know, fabricating stories [01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:41.160] about aliens is probably a psyop to cover all kinds of government testing and, you know, [01:55:41.160 --> 01:55:43.080] aircraft and all that sort of thing. [01:55:43.080 --> 01:55:45.960] Number one, number two, it's probably a good story to keep alive in case you ever want [01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:50.800] to just like, you know, wipe out half of humanity and blame it on these aliens that you created, [01:55:50.800 --> 01:55:55.200] you know, like H.G. Wells did and Orson Welles did, you know, for their... [01:55:55.200 --> 01:55:58.120] They didn't wipe out half of humanity, but they sure got people going. [01:55:58.120 --> 01:55:59.360] All right. [01:55:59.360 --> 01:56:03.360] But the real problem I have with this whole idea, and I just got an email from a listener [01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:09.000] about this again, about the aliens and the alien technology, friends, you have to explain [01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:18.680] to me how a race of beings who are so smart and so sophisticated that they can come here, [01:56:18.680 --> 01:56:24.000] they can travel here from across the universe. [01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:29.520] But when they get here, they're too stupid to figure out how to not be thwarted by the [01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:31.200] Bilderberg group. [01:56:31.200 --> 01:56:32.200] I don't get that. [01:56:32.200 --> 01:56:33.880] I do not get that. [01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:38.960] Or, you know, that they're smart enough to come all the way here to visit us cavemen [01:56:38.960 --> 01:56:40.440] and women, OK? [01:56:40.440 --> 01:56:42.360] And then when they get here, they crash. [01:56:42.360 --> 01:56:44.400] They have an accident. [01:56:44.400 --> 01:56:49.920] And or they get shot down by these mosquitoes called these gnats called the U.S. Air Force. [01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:50.920] I don't get that. [01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:51.920] I don't understand. [01:56:51.920 --> 01:56:57.640] Why can't, you know, and when they're walking around, oh, darn it, I wish I could communicate, [01:56:57.640 --> 01:57:00.840] you know, I got here all the way here, you know, what's this? [01:57:00.840 --> 01:57:01.840] What is this? [01:57:01.840 --> 01:57:04.040] Can anybody explain that to me? [01:57:04.040 --> 01:57:06.320] What do you think, Joe? [01:57:06.320 --> 01:57:11.880] Well, I think there's some legitimate alien stuff or extraterrestrial stuff, you know, [01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:15.880] perhaps, you know, but it's like me. [01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:18.200] And it was at the end of my while. [01:57:18.200 --> 01:57:19.720] I won't even get into that. [01:57:19.720 --> 01:57:26.480] But I think a lot of this gray stuff and, you know, all these people get visited by [01:57:26.480 --> 01:57:31.360] the grays when they're just going to sleep, you know, it's always when they're in bed, [01:57:31.360 --> 01:57:35.080] you know, the getting visits by the grays are taken out of their apartment. [01:57:35.080 --> 01:57:36.080] Yeah. [01:57:36.080 --> 01:57:38.120] Sounds like MK Ultra to me. [01:57:38.120 --> 01:57:39.120] Yeah. [01:57:39.120 --> 01:57:41.480] No, I want to listen, Joe, I want to be very clear. [01:57:41.480 --> 01:57:42.480] I want to get you taken into this. [01:57:42.480 --> 01:57:47.200] Just when you're going to bed, you get visited by the grays that you might have some sort [01:57:47.200 --> 01:57:53.520] of alternative virtual reality working on your mind or something, you know. [01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:56.040] I need to get this in because it's the end of the show. [01:57:56.040 --> 01:57:58.360] I want to be clear, friends, I should have mentioned this before. [01:57:58.360 --> 01:58:02.840] I am not saying that I do not believe that there is other life forms in the universe. [01:58:02.840 --> 01:58:06.480] I'm sure that their life abounds in the universe. [01:58:06.480 --> 01:58:08.160] I'm sure there's tons of it. [01:58:08.160 --> 01:58:13.160] All I'm talking about is if it's smart enough to travel all the way here and it wants to [01:58:13.160 --> 01:58:20.280] help us and it has technology for us, how can it possibly be suppressed by these neanderthals [01:58:20.280 --> 01:58:22.400] that run this planet relatively speaking? [01:58:22.400 --> 01:58:24.440] Anyway, Joe, that wraps it up. [01:58:24.440 --> 01:58:26.440] Thanks for coming on the show. [01:58:26.440 --> 01:58:31.880] Okay, we'll talk about troops sometime. [01:58:31.880 --> 01:58:32.880] Very good. [01:58:32.880 --> 01:58:33.880] Yeah, there is another story. [01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:35.840] We'll probably talk about it with Scott Creighton on Thursday night. [01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:41.480] The Ukrainian military seems to be giving up and abandoning the government, the puppet [01:58:41.480 --> 01:58:45.120] government and, you know, siding with the pro-Russian Ukrainians. [01:58:45.120 --> 01:58:46.400] But we'll talk about that on Thursday. [01:58:46.400 --> 01:58:50.600] Have a great night. [01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:56.680] Bibles for America is offering absolutely free a unique study Bible called the New Testament [01:58:56.680 --> 01:58:57.880] Recovery Version. [01:58:57.880 --> 01:59:02.840] The New Testament Recovery Version has over 9,000 footnotes that explain what the Bible [01:59:02.840 --> 01:59:08.520] says verse by verse, helping you to know God and to know the meaning of life. [01:59:08.520 --> 01:59:11.800] Order your free copy today from Bibles for America. 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