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[00:52.000 --> 00:56.000]  In the news, on Sunday afternoon enraged Albuquerque citizens
[00:56.000 --> 01:00.000]  gathered outside of police headquarters to protest the March 16 killing
[01:00.000 --> 01:03.000]  of James Boyd at the hands of the APD.
[01:03.000 --> 01:08.000]  Body camera footage from the APD shows officers unloading bean bags,
[01:08.000 --> 01:11.000]  stun guns and live ammunition on Boyd.
[01:11.000 --> 01:15.000]  Protesters marched for around eight hours calling on the APD chief to be fired.
[01:15.000 --> 01:19.000]  Around 9.30 p.m. the police began firing tear gas canisters,
[01:19.000 --> 01:23.000]  claiming the demonstrators were vandalizing property.
[01:23.000 --> 01:27.000]  A sweeping reform bill was approved by Greek officials as over 10,000
[01:27.000 --> 01:31.000]  citizens rallied in Athens to protest the latest international loans
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[01:33.000 --> 01:36.000]  The reforms were debated in a fast-track two-day session,
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[01:47.000 --> 01:50.000]  More than 30 people are killed in the capital of the Central African Republic,
[01:50.000 --> 01:54.000]  leading the UN to call for more forces to be dispatched to that area.
[01:54.000 --> 01:58.000]  It happened when peacekeeping soldiers from Chad opened fire on civilians
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[02:07.000 --> 02:10.000]  Al Jazeera reports it's unclear how many have been killed in the country
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[03:00.000 --> 03:16.000]  MUSIC
[03:16.000 --> 03:19.000]  Really, man, come on
[03:19.000 --> 03:23.000]  Six o'clock noon, see somebody been shot
[03:23.000 --> 03:27.000]  Somebody's been abused, somebody blew up a building
[03:27.000 --> 03:30.000]  Somebody stole their car, somebody got away
[03:30.000 --> 03:34.000]  Somebody didn't get too far, yeah
[03:34.000 --> 03:39.000]  They didn't get too far
[03:39.000 --> 03:43.000]  Grandpappy told my pappy back in my day, son
[03:43.000 --> 03:47.000]  A man had to answer for the weed that he dug
[03:47.000 --> 03:51.000]  Take all the rope in Texas by the tall old tree
[03:51.000 --> 03:56.000]  Round up all of them bad boys and hang them high on the street
[03:56.000 --> 04:01.000]  For all the people to see
[04:01.000 --> 04:05.000]  That justice is one thing you should always find
[04:05.000 --> 04:09.000]  You gotta settle up your boys, you gotta draw a hard line
[04:09.000 --> 04:13.000]  When the guns won't settle us, we'll sing a victory tune
[04:13.000 --> 04:17.000]  And we'll all be back at the local sooner
[04:17.000 --> 04:22.000]  We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
[04:22.000 --> 04:27.000]  Let's get for my men, bear for my horses
[04:27.000 --> 04:29.000]  All right, good evening, folks.
[04:29.000 --> 04:33.000]  This is the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Show with your host, Eddie Craig.
[04:33.000 --> 04:37.000]  It is March 31, 2014.
[04:37.000 --> 04:43.000]  All right, what I'd like to go over tonight is something that we are currently trying to do in class.
[04:43.000 --> 04:48.000]  I implemented a new format for what we are doing for the practical application this past Sunday.
[04:48.000 --> 04:54.000]  What saddens me, though, is a couple of classes we had there for two straight weeks.
[04:54.000 --> 04:57.000]  We had a lot of people in, 18 to 20 people.
[04:57.000 --> 05:02.000]  And in the last two weeks, it's gone right back down to four or five.
[05:02.000 --> 05:09.000]  Folks, it astounds me why people are not willing to take an interest in knowing what to do
[05:09.000 --> 05:14.000]  and how to do it when it comes to protecting their rights against the things the cops are doing.
[05:14.000 --> 05:22.000]  It saddens me to no end that the class is as empty as it is, not from a money making point of view,
[05:22.000 --> 05:32.000]  but simply from the fact that it shows a complete disinterest in knowing what's going on and what to do about it.
[05:32.000 --> 05:35.000]  And that, to me, is very sad.
[05:35.000 --> 05:40.000]  But anyway, the point of what I'm teaching in the class now is we've had a lot of areas
[05:40.000 --> 05:46.000]  where people are trying to practice how to handle a traffic stop, how to go to court, and so on and so forth,
[05:46.000 --> 05:49.000]  and what to do at any particular stage.
[05:49.000 --> 05:55.000]  And everybody has treated this with different levels of indifference,
[05:55.000 --> 06:05.000]  whether it be lack of study, lack of participation, lack of actual practice, and so on and so forth,
[06:05.000 --> 06:10.000]  so that they can stay on top of what's going to happen.
[06:10.000 --> 06:18.000]  So the new format I've implemented for the class, I hope, will act to change that.
[06:18.000 --> 06:23.000]  What we're doing is we're going to lay out the scenario that we're going to be practicing,
[06:23.000 --> 06:27.000]  and this is a full class participation practice.
[06:27.000 --> 06:32.000]  It doesn't matter whether you've been there before or this is your first time or your 20th time.
[06:32.000 --> 06:34.000]  It doesn't matter.
[06:34.000 --> 06:41.000]  We're going to have three minutes to rotate through the process that we're dealing with.
[06:41.000 --> 06:48.000]  And in that three minutes, you have to do as much of what you should do as possible
[06:48.000 --> 06:55.000]  to engage either the officer if it's a traffic stop situation scenario, your first appearance,
[06:55.000 --> 07:01.000]  your pretrial, your trial, your jury voir dire, your opening statement, your closing statement,
[07:01.000 --> 07:06.000]  your cross-examination, your direct examination, whatever the stages we're practicing.
[07:06.000 --> 07:09.000]  You've got three minutes to do all the things you need to do.
[07:09.000 --> 07:18.000]  And wherever you're at when your three minutes are up, the next person in class has to pick up where you left off.
[07:18.000 --> 07:25.000]  This, I'm hoping, will help us to train people how to think on their feet,
[07:25.000 --> 07:31.000]  how to go about thinking on the fly, which is the greatest shortcoming most people have,
[07:31.000 --> 07:37.000]  is knowing nothing about what to do when they find themselves in unfamiliar territory.
[07:37.000 --> 07:40.000]  They don't even try to wing it. They just freeze.
[07:40.000 --> 07:47.000]  So what I'm hoping is that this new procedure will force people to understand
[07:47.000 --> 07:52.000]  and to know that they have to learn and practice this,
[07:52.000 --> 07:58.000]  because you never know at what point you're going to have to jump into it.
[07:58.000 --> 08:03.000]  It's great when you can understand this is the process from a linear standpoint.
[08:03.000 --> 08:07.000]  These are the things you're supposed to do, and you're supposed to do them in this order.
[08:07.000 --> 08:15.000]  But at the same time, not understanding how to deal with what's going on at any one of those particular phases
[08:15.000 --> 08:19.000]  can be fatal case-wise. All right?
[08:19.000 --> 08:26.000]  So I'm hoping that this compels people to understand how flat-footed they can be caught
[08:26.000 --> 08:30.000]  if they're not preparing for this.
[08:30.000 --> 08:39.000]  So if you want to try, and everybody that did attend agreed that it was definitely worthwhile to take it from that tack,
[08:39.000 --> 08:44.000]  because this forced them to do things they hadn't had to do before,
[08:44.000 --> 08:47.000]  and that's follow up on someone else's argument.
[08:47.000 --> 08:55.000]  Now, the other benefit of that is, is that when you have to pick up where the person before you left off,
[08:55.000 --> 09:01.000]  then you have to learn how to formulate an argument based upon what they were doing.
[09:01.000 --> 09:08.000]  And then you can go from there to wherever you think would be the next best place to go.
[09:08.000 --> 09:14.000]  But this will also teach you how to deal with the unexpected from the other side.
[09:14.000 --> 09:18.000]  When they say something and you have to address it,
[09:18.000 --> 09:23.000]  then it would be pretty much the same thing as when the person you're replacing has started to say something
[09:23.000 --> 09:26.000]  and now you have to complete it.
[09:26.000 --> 09:32.000]  So it requires you to analyze where that other person was trying to go
[09:32.000 --> 09:36.000]  so that you can pick up where they left off and deal with it.
[09:36.000 --> 09:41.000]  And I'm hoping that that will motivate people to practice this more,
[09:41.000 --> 09:50.000]  as well as to know that it's really necessary to be able to be fluid in how you handle the scenario
[09:50.000 --> 09:53.000]  and whatever phase of it you may be in.
[09:53.000 --> 09:59.000]  So please, folks, the class needs your participation if for no other reason
[09:59.000 --> 10:03.000]  than to prevent you from being a victim,
[10:03.000 --> 10:10.000]  because I don't care what the old adage is about ignorance being bliss.
[10:10.000 --> 10:17.000]  I am telling you from experience, ignorance will get you hurt,
[10:17.000 --> 10:22.000]  especially when it comes to dealing with these public servants with guns
[10:22.000 --> 10:30.000]  and going into these courtrooms unprepared and absolutely uneducated on what's happening,
[10:30.000 --> 10:34.000]  why it's happening, and what to say and do about it.
[10:34.000 --> 10:39.000]  If you want to go in there unprepared, hey, that is your choice.
[10:39.000 --> 10:42.000]  You can't say to the contrary.
[10:42.000 --> 10:47.000]  But I'm begging you not to, and there's an easy way not to.
[10:47.000 --> 10:49.000]  That's show up for the class.
[10:49.000 --> 10:54.000]  Learn how to do this properly.
[10:54.000 --> 10:59.000]  And just to give you an idea of why this is necessary,
[10:59.000 --> 11:07.000]  it also helps to enforce within yourself that what you're doing is actually correct
[11:07.000 --> 11:11.000]  despite what all the naysayers out there say or all the people going,
[11:11.000 --> 11:14.000]  well, why would you want to do that, or no, that ain't the right way of doing it,
[11:14.000 --> 11:16.000]  or no, that's not the way it is.
[11:16.000 --> 11:19.000]  You've got to do this, or this is what the law is and what it isn't,
[11:19.000 --> 11:21.000]  and you can't do it that way.
[11:21.000 --> 11:27.000]  I don't care who they are until they can back up their assertion like I can back up mine,
[11:27.000 --> 11:33.000]  which is by their own black letter law that proves they don't know what they're talking about,
[11:33.000 --> 11:39.000]  then you are putting your faith in the wrong place if you're going to listen to them
[11:39.000 --> 11:43.000]  over what the information is that I'm giving you,
[11:43.000 --> 11:49.000]  because I'm getting the information directly from them at the powers that be as the source.
[11:49.000 --> 11:55.000]  And like I've told people many, many times, I don't want anybody to take my word about anything.
[11:55.000 --> 12:00.000]  When I tell you that this is what a statute reads and so on and so forth
[12:00.000 --> 12:03.000]  and this is why we have to interpret it this way or this way,
[12:03.000 --> 12:10.000]  I do my best to convince you, go research it for yourself.
[12:10.000 --> 12:17.000]  In fact, I was reading some postings on Qatloos, which is a website out there on the internet
[12:17.000 --> 12:27.000]  that is basically a comment ground for cops, lawyers, and liberal morons of the same ilk
[12:27.000 --> 12:30.000]  who know absolutely nothing about what they're saying,
[12:30.000 --> 12:35.000]  but they have an opinion about everything and about everybody, including me.
[12:35.000 --> 12:39.000]  They're calling me all kinds of names and all other kind of stuff,
[12:39.000 --> 12:43.000]  and I'm just grinning thinking, you know what, when the wolf comes,
[12:43.000 --> 12:50.000]  let's see which one of us recognizes him in his sheepskin disguise and which one of us doesn't.
[12:50.000 --> 12:56.000]  If you want to sit down and have a straight-up debate with me over what the law says and what it means,
[12:56.000 --> 12:59.000]  then step up and let's get busy.
[12:59.000 --> 13:03.000]  Otherwise, you're just flapping your gums and drying out your teeth
[13:03.000 --> 13:13.000]  because you're not going to make me feel bad, stupid, or irrelevant when I know for a fact I know more than you do
[13:13.000 --> 13:20.000]  because I can prove you don't know what the hell you're talking about when you're saying that I don't.
[13:20.000 --> 13:23.000]  So that's the attitude I have when it comes to this.
[13:23.000 --> 13:26.000]  It's just water off my back like a duck, no problem.
[13:26.000 --> 13:32.000]  They're entitled to their opinion no matter how moronic and ill-informed it actually is.
[13:32.000 --> 13:40.000]  So the problem is when folks want to remain ignorant, they will get their wish,
[13:40.000 --> 13:43.000]  and there's nothing the rest of us are going to be able to do about that.
[13:43.000 --> 13:47.000]  And I'm begging you that are listening and that are in Austin
[13:47.000 --> 13:56.000]  or able to make whatever distance trip you need to to get here and have not yet gone through the rigmarole of going to court
[13:56.000 --> 14:01.000]  or even if you have and can actually relate to what I'm telling you they're going to do
[14:01.000 --> 14:04.000]  and how they're going to do it and why it's wrong,
[14:04.000 --> 14:08.000]  this class is something you need to be coming to as often as possible.
[14:08.000 --> 14:15.000]  It's something you need to be bringing people that you care about to and helping them get informed to
[14:15.000 --> 14:20.000]  because ignorance is what is destroying us.
[14:20.000 --> 14:27.000]  And a desire to remain ignorant is the worst kind of ignorance there is.
[14:27.000 --> 14:29.000]  That means you've given up.
[14:29.000 --> 14:34.000]  That means you've surrendered and you don't care who you take with you
[14:34.000 --> 14:41.000]  no matter how detrimental that surrender will turn out to be to you, to them, or to anyone else.
[14:41.000 --> 14:51.000]  And the problem is, is when those that have surrendered far outnumber those that are willing to say no and fight back.
[14:51.000 --> 14:59.000]  It's not absolutely imperative that you join us, but the fight would be so much simpler and so much quicker
[14:59.000 --> 15:08.000]  when the other side realizes they are facing overwhelming odds rather than just complicated odds.
[15:08.000 --> 15:12.000]  That would make all the difference in the world.
[15:12.000 --> 15:20.000]  And the problem, again, on top of all that, is people that think statism is a good thing
[15:20.000 --> 15:28.000]  and that patriotism should be accepted the way it's being sold in America today.
[15:28.000 --> 15:30.000]  And that's simply not the case.
[15:30.000 --> 15:37.000]  Patriotism today is defined by the government as do as we say, not as we do.
[15:37.000 --> 15:46.000]  Not question what we say or what we do, lick the hand that feeds you, thank us for it, and do your work.
[15:46.000 --> 15:51.000]  That's not a patriot to me, folks, and it never has been and it never will be.
[15:51.000 --> 15:57.000]  A patriot is somebody that, regardless of the odds and the circumstances that they find themselves in,
[15:57.000 --> 16:06.000]  is willing to recognize and confront right and wrong whenever needed and as necessary
[16:06.000 --> 16:12.000]  for the good not only of themselves but of everyone else.
[16:12.000 --> 16:16.000]  It's just like eventually the truth will come out.
[16:16.000 --> 16:24.000]  It may be decades after you're dead, but Lincoln's having that same problem now, see?
[16:24.000 --> 16:31.000]  For, you know, a long, long time Lincoln's been touted as a hero,
[16:31.000 --> 16:39.000]  but the simple facts of history are being known and shown that proves he was anything but a hero.
[16:39.000 --> 16:42.000]  Well, that's no different than how things are going to turn out for us.
[16:42.000 --> 16:46.000]  We're going to be called traitors and terrorists today,
[16:46.000 --> 16:54.000]  but eventually they're going to realize that what they have is because of what we did and tried to teach them.
[16:54.000 --> 16:58.000]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio 512-646-1984.
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[19:27.000 --> 19:30.000]  All right, folks, we are back, the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Show.
[19:30.000 --> 19:32.000]  I am your host, Eddie Craig.
[19:32.000 --> 19:37.000]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
[19:37.000 --> 19:38.000]  So give us a call.
[19:38.000 --> 19:40.000]  Right now, we've got one caller up on the board.
[19:40.000 --> 19:43.000]  This is Beverly in Maine.
[19:43.000 --> 19:45.000]  Beverly, what can we do for you?
[19:45.000 --> 19:47.000]  Oh, my goodness.
[19:47.000 --> 19:48.000]  I tell a lot of things.
[19:48.000 --> 19:49.000]  Can you hear me?
[19:49.000 --> 19:51.000]  I can hear you.
[19:51.000 --> 19:52.000]  Oh, good.
[19:52.000 --> 20:06.000]  I was on phone a long time ago, and, you know, I couldn't agree more with there being this evil thing that occurs when you step into the court.
[20:06.000 --> 20:12.000]  And I panicked, so I got so frustrated with them that I sued the judge.
[20:12.000 --> 20:16.000]  I said, I'm not going before this guy ever again.
[20:16.000 --> 20:22.000]  And it's been, it's ongoing.
[20:22.000 --> 20:27.000]  I sued him in U.S. District Court because he just does what he wants in there.
[20:27.000 --> 20:30.000]  It's like his own little party or something.
[20:30.000 --> 20:50.000]  And it's now the most recent thing is the magistrate judge said that the judge, which I probably made a mistake on Form 51, admit to this, admit to that form.
[20:50.000 --> 21:00.000]  It's supposed to be in the Discovery Times, so I agreed that we would put that in the Discovery, but then he said that the attorney didn't have to answer Rule 11.
[21:00.000 --> 21:07.000]  And when he said that, I said, fine, transfer this case to First Circuit Court.
[21:07.000 --> 21:16.000]  It's Florida trust matter, but they forgot to use any kind of laws in any of their orders or proceedings or anything.
[21:16.000 --> 21:18.000]  It's a hell of a mess.
[21:18.000 --> 21:20.000]  And it's wicked stressful.
[21:20.000 --> 21:26.000]  And I don't really know what I'm doing, but I'm proceeding because I have to.
[21:26.000 --> 21:36.000]  And so after I said transfer to First Circuit Court, I filed a restraining order and I filed a Hobbs Act.
[21:36.000 --> 21:44.000]  And I said they're a gang and they're just co-conspiring to take my property because they did.
[21:44.000 --> 21:56.000]  After I filed the lawsuit against the judge in October, he had taken my Social Security number, drawn up a deed, and taken my property for no reason.
[21:56.000 --> 22:00.000]  He was carrying out the wishes of one of his buddy judges.
[22:00.000 --> 22:08.000]  And then in January, he wrote another order saying that I owed everybody $54,000.
[22:08.000 --> 22:16.000]  Even though there's a case pending against him, he still keeps going.
[22:16.000 --> 22:24.000]  Well, have you moved to disqualify this judge from acting in any case against you while he's under suit?
[22:24.000 --> 22:30.000]  I did. I didn't call it disqualify. I would call it recuse himself.
[22:30.000 --> 22:32.000]  No, no, no. That's the difference.
[22:32.000 --> 22:37.000]  If you're asking him to recuse himself, then it's up to him as to whether or not he does it.
[22:37.000 --> 22:55.000]  But I can't think of any state anywhere that allows a judge that has a direct interest in the outcome or is in a direct conflict with one of the parties that can't be considered a conflict of interest that would disqualify them.
[22:55.000 --> 23:00.000]  You need to learn the difference between disqualified and recused.
[23:00.000 --> 23:04.000]  One is voluntary. The other isn't.
[23:04.000 --> 23:21.000]  You have to file a complaint through a motion to disqualify that the judge has a vested interest in the outcome or has a relationship with one of the parties that would prevent him from being fair and impartial.
[23:21.000 --> 23:34.000]  So I ordered the transcript that shows clearly, I mean, bias. He's apologizing and saying, I'm sorry. I mean, nuts.
[23:34.000 --> 23:38.000]  But I can't seem to get my hands on that transcript in the U.S. Supreme Court.
[23:38.000 --> 23:43.000]  The main Supreme Court has said, oh, you don't need a transcript. And they're all set together here.
[23:43.000 --> 23:59.000]  Well, you don't need a transcript to file the motion to disqualify. But the transcript would be very, very good exhibited evidence of the judge admitting that there was an issue.
[23:59.000 --> 24:06.000]  But you don't technically need it. It would just make it ironclad.
[24:06.000 --> 24:10.000]  Well, I was kind of waiting for it.
[24:10.000 --> 24:16.000]  Have you spoken to the court reporter and told her you would purchase the copy of the transcript?
[24:16.000 --> 24:23.000]  I sent the money and they have told me not to communicate with the court. I mean, I can't tell you how they're ganging up.
[24:23.000 --> 24:25.000]  Who told you that?
[24:25.000 --> 24:30.000]  The clerk told me she didn't like the way I talked to her.
[24:30.000 --> 24:40.000]  She's a name party in this because she's the one who signed the deed that the attorney filed. She signed the deed and recorded it. So she's in my complaint.
[24:40.000 --> 24:41.000]  And I asked.
[24:41.000 --> 24:47.000]  And then they told, okay, but my question is, who told you not to communicate with the court?
[24:47.000 --> 24:57.000]  And when I say communicate here, I'm referring to file pleadings and anything else that's associated with your case.
[24:57.000 --> 25:00.000]  Has someone told you not to do that?
[25:00.000 --> 25:11.000]  The clerk's boss told me if I wanted anything, she's two hours away to contact her. And if I try and do that, I don't get any results.
[25:11.000 --> 25:23.000]  Okay, then you should be able to file a complaint that you're being denied access to the court and to the court records that are directly relating to your case.
[25:23.000 --> 25:25.000]  Okay.
[25:25.000 --> 25:36.000]  So if you have a judicial conduct committee and things like that up there in Maine, then I highly recommend or in Florida or wherever this is actually taking place, I recommend that you file with them.
[25:36.000 --> 25:48.000]  And you should be able to file again an addendum to your federal suit if you have one stating that you are in fact being denied access to the courts by these individuals within your home state.
[25:48.000 --> 25:55.000]  Okay. It's what's called the U.S. District Court in Portland, Maine.
[25:55.000 --> 25:59.000]  Okay, so it's a federal court that's telling you this.
[25:59.000 --> 26:06.000]  No, no. Prior to my, I went into court in October because they were doing all...
[26:06.000 --> 26:11.000]  Okay, wait, wait, wait, Beverly. The question I'm asking you is which court...
[26:11.000 --> 26:12.000]  State court.
[26:12.000 --> 26:16.000]  Okay. The state court is the one that's denying you access.
[26:16.000 --> 26:17.000]  Right.
[26:17.000 --> 26:25.000]  And did you not say at the beginning of this that you had filed a federal suit against the judge or did you file that in the state as well?
[26:25.000 --> 26:29.000]  I filed it in the federal court, in the U.S. District Court.
[26:29.000 --> 26:33.000]  Okay. So what I'm saying is that you can file...
[26:33.000 --> 26:35.000]  Beverly, hold on.
[26:35.000 --> 26:36.000]  Yeah.
[26:36.000 --> 26:37.000]  Hold on.
[26:37.000 --> 26:57.000]  What I'm saying is is you need to check and see if you are still able to file an addendum to the complaint alleging a new claim that they are denying you access to the courts in your state because they're not allowed to do that either.
[26:57.000 --> 27:09.000]  Every person has a right, every individual has a right to the access to the courts to seek redress for grievances. And they can't prevent that through arbitrary action.
[27:09.000 --> 27:16.000]  And what you're describing, that's what it sounds like they're doing.
[27:16.000 --> 27:17.000]  It is what they're doing.
[27:17.000 --> 27:18.000]  Okay.
[27:18.000 --> 27:22.000]  They're not answering you either, sir. So when I filed...
[27:22.000 --> 27:42.000]  Okay. That's what I'm saying. If they're not answering you or they're not letting you file something or they're telling you that they won't accept any communications from you in relation to the case, they're not providing you with any of the records relating to the case from your own court record and so on and so forth, that's denying you access to the courts.
[27:42.000 --> 27:44.000]  Right.
[27:44.000 --> 27:57.000]  And that's what I'm saying. If you've already got a federal lawsuit in the works and it's not too late to amend it, then you should be able to add that as an additional claim.
[27:57.000 --> 27:59.000]  He said that I wasn't...
[27:59.000 --> 28:01.000]  He being who in which court?
[28:01.000 --> 28:03.000]  Now I have in...
[28:03.000 --> 28:04.000]  Beverly, Beverly.
[28:04.000 --> 28:05.000]  Court.
[28:05.000 --> 28:08.000]  Wait. He being who in which court?
[28:08.000 --> 28:14.000]  In U.S. District Court, the federal court, I don't have a judge. I have a magistrate.
[28:14.000 --> 28:15.000]  That's still a...
[28:15.000 --> 28:17.000]  Okay. Go ahead.
[28:17.000 --> 28:21.000]  And he doesn't answer any of my pleadings.
[28:21.000 --> 28:27.000]  He's not the one who would. The other side is the one that has to answer your pleadings.
[28:27.000 --> 28:41.000]  The magistrate is also the judge depending upon which hat he's actually wearing at the time, but he's not a party. He doesn't answer your documents. The other side has to answer your documents.
[28:41.000 --> 28:45.000]  Who are you suing? That's who has to answer.
[28:45.000 --> 28:56.000]  I asked long ago to amend my complaint, and he has never answered. And I said, and no one denied any... He didn't deny...
[28:56.000 --> 29:06.000]  Okay. He cannot give you legal advice or assist you on what to do with your complaint. He can't do that. If he does that, he's not impartial anymore.
[29:06.000 --> 29:11.000]  He can't act as your lawyer or your counsel. He can't advise you.
[29:11.000 --> 29:21.000]  You have to know how to file the suit. You have to know how to file it. You're responsible for knowing what deadlines you have to do any of the things you need to do.
[29:21.000 --> 29:25.000]  That's your responsibility.
[29:25.000 --> 29:31.000]  That's why you need to look at the federal rules of procedure.
[29:31.000 --> 29:32.000]  Okay?
[29:32.000 --> 29:34.000]  Listen, what happened was...
[29:34.000 --> 29:39.000]  Okay, Beverly, I got a break to take. Hang on just a second, and we'll pick this up on the other side, okay?
[29:39.000 --> 29:40.000]  Okay, thanks so much.
[29:40.000 --> 29:45.000]  All right. Mike, I see you there, so please hang on, and we'll get to you in the next segment as well.
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[33:13.000 --> 33:42.000]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. All right, we're going to see if we can finish up with Beverly in May. All right, Miss Beverly, I can give you about three more minutes and I'm going to have to move to the next caller, okay?
[33:42.000 --> 33:48.000]  Okay. My question is, I wrote a motion to amend my complaint.
[33:48.000 --> 33:50.000]  Okay. Did you schedule a hearing date?
[33:50.000 --> 33:53.000]  I said no, and the judge said no.
[33:53.000 --> 33:55.000]  The judge said no, you cannot amend it?
[33:55.000 --> 33:57.000]  Right, the magistrate, a long time ago.
[33:57.000 --> 34:04.000]  Okay. Well, in that case, you may have to file this as a separate suit then.
[34:04.000 --> 34:19.000]  All right. And, okay, but everything that I state, like filing Rule 11, he said the attorney didn't have to answer that. That's not right. That's in the law book. I didn't create Rule 11.
[34:19.000 --> 34:23.000]  Rule 11 of which? Rule 11 under what?
[34:23.000 --> 34:25.000]  The federal court.
[34:25.000 --> 34:28.000]  Are you talking about the federal rules of civil procedure?
[34:28.000 --> 34:29.000]  I am.
[34:29.000 --> 34:30.000]  Okay.
[34:30.000 --> 34:34.000]  The magistrate said the lawyer didn't have to answer it, and at that...
[34:34.000 --> 34:39.000]  Okay. Do you have a link? Did you find it online or do you have it in a book?
[34:39.000 --> 34:42.000]  I have it in the federal rules of procedure.
[34:42.000 --> 34:43.000]  Okay. And...
[34:43.000 --> 34:56.000]  And it goes to 806 and 608, because if they refuse to answer, they have, you know, a safe harbor time of 21 days, and they have to answer. They made statements, the truthworthiness of it.
[34:56.000 --> 35:09.000]  And I said to them, I wrote a motion that, you know, move it to first circuit. There's no point in being here if you don't want, you know, truthworthiness. What are we going to do? We're going to just, you know, and they don't answer.
[35:09.000 --> 35:22.000]  And when I filed a RICO, which is what they're doing to me, they're really not talking to me now. I'm tempted to just type it up and bring it to the FBI and the Bureau of Department of Justice. I've had it with them.
[35:22.000 --> 35:29.000]  Okay. Well, I haven't had an opportunity to study Rule 12 in depth, but I've got it pulled up here and...
[35:29.000 --> 35:30.000]  11.
[35:30.000 --> 35:36.000]  I'm sorry, Rule 11. Let's see.
[35:36.000 --> 35:57.000]  It's about, you know, if you make a statement and you sign a document. So he wrote a reply to me for the motion to dismiss the complaint. I blew holes all through it. I replied, I said, you answer this, you prove, answer this, this, this, and that. There was nothing left after that because that's all he's done.
[35:57.000 --> 36:04.000]  Okay. What was your motion challenging the failure under Rule 11?
[36:04.000 --> 36:07.000]  What's the gist of why you were challenging it?
[36:07.000 --> 36:10.000]  Because it was untrue. It was untrue.
[36:10.000 --> 36:12.000]  What was untrue?
[36:12.000 --> 36:25.000]  All of his statements in his motion to dismiss my complaint and tort. The lawyer, the judge was sued, the lawyer was sued, the lawyer drew up the deed, and the clerk signed it.
[36:25.000 --> 36:43.000]  And she recorded it, and they used my Social Security number. So she's a named party. Those are free. So what I'm thinking now, because this is really complicated law, is because then it's supposed to be Florida law, I should appeal it to Florida if I can.
[36:43.000 --> 37:07.000]  Okay. Then if he ruled that, you should be doing an interlocutory appeal on his decision saying that the attorney didn't have to answer. If the statute, if the rule here says they have to answer, the problem is I don't know what your question was, because if it's what you're talking about, I don't see how you would have phrased that in your complaint to make Rule 11 the applicable rule.
[37:07.000 --> 37:19.000]  Since Rule 11 has to do with the signing of pleadings, motions, and other papers and representations made to the court. So which portion of it are you referring to as what you filed?
[37:19.000 --> 37:39.000]  Say, for instance, in the first paragraph he writes, the cause of the delay is because of the plaintiff. So I replied, show in paragraph one that the cause of the delay since 1994 is due to the plaintiff. Show that. Explain that.
[37:39.000 --> 37:53.000]  And I did that for each and every one. I numbered them, 30 of them. And after I pulled apart his motion to dismiss, there was nothing left because his whole page was live.
[37:53.000 --> 37:55.000]  Okay.
[37:55.000 --> 38:12.000]  But that Rule 11 and then 608 and 806 says that the magistrate too can't throw out tooth. You know, we're in court. It's a pony show.
[38:12.000 --> 38:20.000]  Okay. So is your filing then a suit or is it a motion for sanctions against the other side?
[38:20.000 --> 38:23.000]  I haven't filed a motion for sanctions.
[38:23.000 --> 38:32.000]  Okay. That under Rule 11, that is the only recourse you have for false statements made in the pleadings.
[38:32.000 --> 38:43.000]  False representations made to the court under Section B must be addressed under Section C2 as a motion for sanctions.
[38:43.000 --> 38:47.000]  Right. But the judge said he didn't have to answer it.
[38:47.000 --> 38:56.000]  If you didn't file a motion for sanctions, he's right because he doesn't have to answer anything. You have to file a motion for sanctions.
[38:56.000 --> 38:59.000]  That's what the rule says right here.
[38:59.000 --> 39:08.000]  There's nothing in this about saying filing any type of question in A to the other side or demand of proof.
[39:08.000 --> 39:13.000]  He's making assertions. You know they're false. Therefore you accuse.
[39:13.000 --> 39:15.000]  Wait, wait, Beverly.
[39:15.000 --> 39:27.000]  Therefore you state that the statement is false under Rule 11B and that in your motion for sanctions under Section C2,
[39:27.000 --> 39:34.000]  you demand that he prove up the statement made or that the court sanction him for making it.
[39:34.000 --> 39:36.000]  That's what I did.
[39:36.000 --> 39:43.000]  But you just told me you didn't file a motion for sanctions. How can that be what you did if that's not what you filed?
[39:43.000 --> 39:59.000]  It's exactly what I filed. And I copied the law verbatim and I wrote down the numbers and the magistrate judge replied he didn't have to abide by Rule 11 at all.
[39:59.000 --> 40:02.000]  Okay. Then you need to file a motion.
[40:02.000 --> 40:12.000]  Then like I said, you need to file an interlocutory appeal against the federal judge and go over his head to get a different ruling to appeal what he ruled.
[40:12.000 --> 40:18.000]  Okay. I have that already. I just haven't done it.
[40:18.000 --> 40:21.000]  Okay. Well, that's what you need to do. All right.
[40:21.000 --> 40:24.000]  Yeah. When this case first started.
[40:24.000 --> 40:33.000]  Well, Beverly, I don't have time to jump all the way back in time. I don't. I got other callers on the board and I only was giving you three minutes and I've given you 12.
[40:33.000 --> 40:34.000]  Thank you so much.
[40:34.000 --> 40:35.000]  You're welcome.
[40:35.000 --> 40:38.000]  Let me get right on it. When are you back on the call?
[40:38.000 --> 40:40.000]  I'm back Monday.
[40:40.000 --> 40:41.000]  Monday.
[40:41.000 --> 40:43.000]  Every Monday is my time.
[40:43.000 --> 40:47.000]  And everybody goes to Austin. That's way too far for me.
[40:47.000 --> 40:49.000]  Oh, you're talking about my class?
[40:49.000 --> 40:50.000]  Yeah.
[40:50.000 --> 41:02.000]  Yeah. My classes right now are on Sundays at Brave New Books. But once we get our website, Tile of Law, up and launched, you'll be able to attend classes from anywhere because everything will be on the Internet.
[41:02.000 --> 41:07.000]  Thank you so much. I hope I didn't miss any deadlines. I don't believe I did.
[41:07.000 --> 41:09.000]  Well, good luck.
[41:09.000 --> 41:10.000]  Thank you.
[41:10.000 --> 41:14.000]  You're welcome. We'll talk to you later. Thanks for calling in.
[41:14.000 --> 41:21.000]  All right. Now we're going to go to Olivia in D.C. Olivia, what can we do for you?
[41:21.000 --> 41:22.000]  How are you doing?
[41:22.000 --> 41:24.000]  I'm doing all right.
[41:24.000 --> 41:33.000]  I just want to thank you, first of all, for the wonderful job that you're doing for the community sharing all of your wonderful knowledge with us.
[41:33.000 --> 41:36.000]  Well, I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
[41:36.000 --> 41:46.000]  Today, I would like a little bit of input from you on two different situations that I'm forced to deal with.
[41:46.000 --> 41:47.000]  Okay.
[41:47.000 --> 41:59.000]  Both of them are involving my right to travel. And first, I need to tell you that I don't have any licenses.
[41:59.000 --> 42:06.000]  I don't have any driver's licenses, and I have private tags on my conveyance.
[42:06.000 --> 42:07.000]  Okay.
[42:07.000 --> 42:16.000]  And the first particular case was involving both of them have ultimately turned into bench warrants.
[42:16.000 --> 42:19.000]  But let me explain how it has got to that point.
[42:19.000 --> 42:20.000]  Okay.
[42:20.000 --> 42:32.000]  The first case, I had asked for an extension because I was not emotionally and mentally ready to deal with the situation.
[42:32.000 --> 42:36.000]  So I asked for an extension, and that was granted.
[42:36.000 --> 42:46.000]  At that point, I didn't plan on being in a bus accident that took me to a whole other tailspin.
[42:46.000 --> 42:54.000]  So when I asked for the judge for an extension because of my mental incapacity,
[42:54.000 --> 43:05.000]  he had a clerk call me and leave a voicemail message to say that you're able to come and you need to come to court right now.
[43:05.000 --> 43:10.000]  But I didn't get that in a timely enough manner.
[43:10.000 --> 43:14.000]  So that's how that situation turned into a bench war.
[43:14.000 --> 43:21.000]  The second situation turned into a bench war because I was never notified of a court date.
[43:21.000 --> 43:32.000]  And in both of these situations, I have asked the judges for delegation of authority to be put on the record.
[43:32.000 --> 43:38.000]  And the first step, my vehicle was extorted.
[43:38.000 --> 43:40.000]  Okay. Well, hang on just a second, Olivia.
[43:40.000 --> 43:43.000]  We're about to go to break, and I'll pick this up on the other side, okay?
[43:43.000 --> 43:44.000]  Okay, sir.
[43:44.000 --> 43:45.000]  All right.
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[46:19.000 --> 46:24.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio, and right now we are talking to Olivia in D.C.
[46:24.000 --> 46:29.000]  And Mike and Marie, if y'all please hang on, I'll get to y'all just as quick as I can.
[46:29.000 --> 46:34.000]  All right, Olivia, let's continue on, please.
[46:34.000 --> 46:40.000]  Olivia?
[46:40.000 --> 46:44.000]  I cannot hear Olivia.
[46:44.000 --> 46:49.000]  All right, we're going to have to wait a few minutes, and I'll try her back to see if she's there.
[46:49.000 --> 46:52.000]  Mike, we're going to go ahead and pick up Mike.
[46:52.000 --> 46:56.000]  You're in Montana or Missouri?
[46:56.000 --> 46:57.000]  Mike?
[46:57.000 --> 46:58.000]  Hello?
[46:58.000 --> 46:59.000]  Yes?
[46:59.000 --> 47:00.000]  Can you hear me?
[47:00.000 --> 47:01.000]  Yeah, I can hear you.
[47:01.000 --> 47:02.000]  You in Montana or Missouri?
[47:02.000 --> 47:03.000]  I am in Missouri.
[47:03.000 --> 47:04.000]  Okay.
[47:04.000 --> 47:05.000]  All right.
[47:05.000 --> 47:06.000]  What can we do for you?
[47:06.000 --> 47:15.000]  I spoke to you approximately three weeks ago concerning my citation for operating without a license.
[47:15.000 --> 47:23.000]  And I have entered the motions to dismiss, and then I answered the prosecutor's reply.
[47:23.000 --> 47:32.000]  And I moved for sanctions on the prosecutor like you had mentioned last time for him misdating the facts.
[47:32.000 --> 47:38.000]  And I also found in the Missouri Constitution where to get it on the record.
[47:38.000 --> 47:42.000]  So finally they put it on the record this time around.
[47:42.000 --> 47:53.000]  And things seemed to go well in court, and he asked for the extension this time so that he could answer my motion to move for sanctions.
[47:53.000 --> 48:02.000]  And they followed me from the courthouse and then pulled me over about a mile and a half down the road.
[48:02.000 --> 48:13.000]  And I attempted to do the script, and I failed to lock my door, and he jerked the door open, and they hauled me down to the jail.
[48:13.000 --> 48:20.000]  Of course, I had some friends there, and I was able to contact them as they were pulling me over and told them what was up.
[48:20.000 --> 48:37.000]  So they went down there, and they released me right away with two more citations, one of them being a second charge for operating without a license, and they have yet to convict me of a first one.
[48:37.000 --> 48:38.000]  Well, that's the thing.
[48:38.000 --> 48:43.000]  They're going to try to use them together to do this.
[48:43.000 --> 48:44.000]  Okay.
[48:44.000 --> 48:47.000]  First and foremost, let me be clear about this.
[48:47.000 --> 48:53.000]  You already knew you were going to a place where they would try to set you up, right?
[48:53.000 --> 48:55.000]  I've been driving myself back and forth.
[48:55.000 --> 48:56.000]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[48:56.000 --> 48:58.000]  I'm not asking for tangentials here.
[48:58.000 --> 49:00.000]  I'm asking you to follow along with what I'm saying.
[49:00.000 --> 49:05.000]  You went to a place where you know they're going to try to set you up, right?
[49:05.000 --> 49:07.000]  Yes.
[49:07.000 --> 49:14.000]  Why would you provide them with the means to do that?
[49:14.000 --> 49:16.000]  It wasn't my intention for them to.
[49:16.000 --> 49:20.000]  Well, you went down there in your car, right?
[49:20.000 --> 49:21.000]  Well, it was my truck, but yes.
[49:21.000 --> 49:22.000]  Okay.
[49:22.000 --> 49:31.000]  And you knew that they were already trying to charge you with certain things and that you had done nothing to change their opinion of those things, right?
[49:31.000 --> 49:32.000]  Yes.
[49:32.000 --> 49:38.000]  And you didn't expect that they would be laying in wait for you?
[49:38.000 --> 49:43.000]  Well, I hadn't expected it, no, because I've been doing it this long.
[49:43.000 --> 49:46.000]  I think it was the-
[49:46.000 --> 49:52.000]  Well, there's this thing that I like to say about people that handle snakes unnecessarily, too.
[49:52.000 --> 49:56.000]  Well, I figured if I'm going to drive without a license, I might as well drive without a license.
[49:56.000 --> 50:00.000]  Well, if you keep driving, you better have a license.
[50:00.000 --> 50:01.000]  Well, you know what I mean.
[50:01.000 --> 50:03.000]  Yes, I do, but nobody else does.
[50:03.000 --> 50:06.000]  So if they're listening to you, they're getting the wrong idea.
[50:06.000 --> 50:09.000]  Yes.
[50:09.000 --> 50:10.000]  All right.
[50:10.000 --> 50:17.000]  So again, stop putting yourself in situations where you know there's going to be fallout when you can avoid them.
[50:17.000 --> 50:26.000]  Don't give them anything else to use against you while you're fighting them on one, because they can bleed money out of you faster than you can out of them.
[50:26.000 --> 50:28.000]  So far, they haven't gotten any.
[50:28.000 --> 50:35.000]  That don't mean they can't throw you in the jail and demand a bond so high that they do.
[50:35.000 --> 50:36.000]  Correct?
[50:36.000 --> 50:50.000]  It's possible, but I did make a motion saying that any fees, bonds, or anything expressed in dollars would have to be specific as to which dollar.
[50:50.000 --> 50:52.000]  I don't know if that will help or not.
[50:52.000 --> 51:09.000]  Probably not, because if your state's anything like ours, it probably says in lawful money of the United States, which is any damn thing they want.
[51:09.000 --> 51:21.000]  Well, the second citation, like I said, the one was supposedly for a second offense, and then the other one was for no insurance because I did not produce any documents.
[51:21.000 --> 51:22.000]  Okay.
[51:22.000 --> 51:30.000]  And does state law make the presumption that you are guilty if you don't prove you're innocent?
[51:30.000 --> 51:33.000]  Well, the citation says violator's copy.
[51:33.000 --> 51:34.000]  Okay, wait, wait, wait.
[51:34.000 --> 51:36.000]  That's not what I'm asking you.
[51:36.000 --> 51:41.000]  For instance, here in Texas, you have 601.053 of the transportation code.
[51:41.000 --> 51:50.000]  The statute is specifically written to read that the person is presumed to have violated the statute.
[51:50.000 --> 51:55.000]  In other words, you are presumed guilty rather than innocent.
[51:55.000 --> 52:08.000]  If you do not provide evidence that you did not violate the statute, in other words, the burden of proof has been reversed.
[52:08.000 --> 52:12.000]  Neither of those is allowable.
[52:12.000 --> 52:16.000]  What does the statute in Missouri say?
[52:16.000 --> 52:19.000]  I'm not familiar with that one, so I don't know.
[52:19.000 --> 52:21.000]  Then you better find out.
[52:21.000 --> 52:32.000]  But they did put a court date on both of those citations for the morning before my court date for the first one.
[52:32.000 --> 52:43.000]  And I know, according to the Missouri Supreme Court rules, that a summons has to have a judge's signature or a clerk's signature at the direction of a judge.
[52:43.000 --> 52:49.000]  I know that citations do not meet the requirements for a summons.
[52:49.000 --> 52:50.000]  That's correct.
[52:50.000 --> 52:56.000]  That's why they normally want you to sign them, because then it's a signed agreement, whether it's a summons or not.
[52:56.000 --> 52:58.000]  Well, in Missouri, they don't make you sign them.
[52:58.000 --> 53:01.000]  Well, then they would have a problem.
[53:01.000 --> 53:10.000]  Unless there is a specific statute allowing them to be treated as a summons, as a special exception as to who can issue them,
[53:10.000 --> 53:18.000]  then you have to wonder whether or not there's a separation of powers violation in Missouri, because police officers are executive officers,
[53:18.000 --> 53:24.000]  whereas summonses and subpoenas are issued by judicial officers.
[53:24.000 --> 53:34.000]  They cannot exercise one power of the other department from the department they're in if you have a separation of powers clause in your Constitution.
[53:34.000 --> 53:40.000]  And I don't know of any of the states that don't.
[53:40.000 --> 53:45.000]  I don't have to look that one up, too.
[53:45.000 --> 53:47.000]  Okay.
[53:47.000 --> 53:53.000]  So anyway, originally you were saying they have moved for a continuous to answer your motion for sanctions.
[53:53.000 --> 53:56.000]  Now what?
[53:56.000 --> 54:03.000]  We got the fact that they were laying in wait for you, but we also got the fact that you gave them the opportunity to do so, right?
[54:03.000 --> 54:05.000]  Yes, I suppose I did.
[54:05.000 --> 54:06.000]  Okay.
[54:06.000 --> 54:12.000]  Try to avoid that so you have to fight these one battle at a time instead of a handful of them at once.
[54:12.000 --> 54:13.000]  Yeah.
[54:13.000 --> 54:17.000]  Well, at the current time I did not have a ride anyway, so.
[54:17.000 --> 54:25.000]  Well, I'm just saying that the point is here is that if they do something to you under one and that something prevents you from dealing with the other,
[54:25.000 --> 54:29.000]  then they've compounded the issue for you under the other as well,
[54:29.000 --> 54:39.000]  because they're not going to accept that they're responsible for you not doing something you were supposed to do in the other charges just because they locked you up or they did this or they did that.
[54:39.000 --> 54:46.000]  They're going to always put the blame on you regardless of the consequences and circumstances.
[54:46.000 --> 54:51.000]  Yes, I have seen some of that.
[54:51.000 --> 54:52.000]  Okay.
[54:52.000 --> 54:58.000]  My intention is to just file essentially the same paperwork.
[54:58.000 --> 55:03.000]  They haven't even filed these yet with the court clerk, so.
[55:03.000 --> 55:06.000]  Who hasn't filed what with the court clerk?
[55:06.000 --> 55:19.000]  The prosecutor has not filed the second set of citations, the one with the second offense and the no insurance with the clerk yet.
[55:19.000 --> 55:23.000]  So he still has time, but he just hasn't done it yet.
[55:23.000 --> 55:26.000]  This just happened last Wednesday, so.
[55:26.000 --> 55:31.000]  Well, yeah, he would have a considerable amount of time, I would think.
[55:31.000 --> 55:37.000]  Well, the court date that they put on the citation is less than a month away.
[55:37.000 --> 55:40.000]  So that doesn't mean he won't wait until the last minute.
[55:40.000 --> 55:42.000]  Yeah.
[55:42.000 --> 55:51.000]  But my intention is to file basically the same paperwork because I filed for lack of standing, you know, no corpus delecti,
[55:51.000 --> 56:02.000]  no subject matter jurisdiction because he didn't file the valid charging instruments that Missouri requires.
[56:02.000 --> 56:14.000]  I did discover under Article 1 Section 7, it says you cannot file for a misdemeanor or a felony unless by indictment or information.
[56:14.000 --> 56:16.000]  Yeah.
[56:16.000 --> 56:17.000]  So.
[56:17.000 --> 56:24.000]  And then you'll have some court opinion in the state that says, oh, these that are fine onlys don't apply to any of those rules.
[56:24.000 --> 56:25.000]  They're something special.
[56:25.000 --> 56:29.000]  We can ignore the regular rules of due process.
[56:29.000 --> 56:33.000]  I've been looking for something like that, and I haven't found it.
[56:33.000 --> 56:34.000]  Well, it won't be in the statute.
[56:34.000 --> 56:40.000]  It'll be some judge's opinion that they can change the law themselves.
[56:40.000 --> 56:44.000]  I've been searching Google Scholar for one.
[56:44.000 --> 56:53.000]  I've been searching case sites in Missouri, just different, you know, specific names and such.
[56:53.000 --> 57:00.000]  Well, if you have access to a college or someplace that is a federal book repository or law library,
[57:00.000 --> 57:06.000]  I highly recommend you go down there and find an annotated version of the statutes.
[57:06.000 --> 57:13.000]  And hopefully there will be some case law dealing with this specific section that you're needing to access.
[57:13.000 --> 57:17.000]  And then you will have an idea of what you should be looking for.
[57:17.000 --> 57:25.000]  We do have a library, you know, about an hour away that has Vernon's annotated statute.
[57:25.000 --> 57:26.000]  Okay.
[57:26.000 --> 57:29.000]  It still has the Missouri criminal practice series as well, which has been quite handy.
[57:29.000 --> 57:30.000]  Yeah.
[57:30.000 --> 57:34.000]  Then that might be the place you need to schedule a road trip for.
[57:34.000 --> 57:35.000]  Okay.
[57:35.000 --> 57:36.000]  Well, I appreciate it.
[57:36.000 --> 57:37.000]  Yes, sir.
[57:37.000 --> 57:38.000]  Thanks for calling in.
[57:38.000 --> 57:39.000]  Thank you.
[57:39.000 --> 57:40.000]  You're welcome.
[57:40.000 --> 57:41.000]  All right.
[57:41.000 --> 57:42.000]  Bye.
[57:42.000 --> 57:47.000]  All right, Livia, are you back yet?
[57:47.000 --> 57:48.000]  I hope I am.
[57:48.000 --> 57:49.000]  Can you hear me?
[57:49.000 --> 57:50.000]  I can hear you.
[57:50.000 --> 57:53.000]  I got about – I got – I'm at the top of the hour break here.
[57:53.000 --> 57:55.000]  We're going to go to break in one minute.
[57:55.000 --> 57:58.000]  So will you please hang on and let me pick you up on the other side?
[57:58.000 --> 58:00.000]  Don't abandon your phone this time, okay?
[58:00.000 --> 58:01.000]  I won't.
[58:01.000 --> 58:02.000]  All right.
[58:02.000 --> 58:04.000]  I'm going to stay smart with my smartphone.
[58:04.000 --> 58:05.000]  Okay.
[58:05.000 --> 58:06.000]  Well, hang on.
[58:06.000 --> 58:07.000]  We'll be right back to you.
[58:07.000 --> 58:08.000]  All right.
[58:08.000 --> 58:09.000]  Let's see.
[58:09.000 --> 58:12.000]  We got Marie, Kenny, and Beverly online.
[58:12.000 --> 58:14.000]  Is Beverly back again?
[58:14.000 --> 58:15.000]  Y'all hang on, please.
[58:15.000 --> 58:20.000]  And I will try to get everybody done over this next couple of segments and everything
[58:20.000 --> 58:21.000]  and catch up.
[58:21.000 --> 58:23.000]  So y'all please hold on.
[58:23.000 --> 58:24.000]  All right, folks.
[58:24.000 --> 58:28.000]  This is the Monday Night Rule of Law radio show with your host, Eddie Craig.
[58:28.000 --> 58:30.000]  I want to thank the callers we've had so far.
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[01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:31.000]  I won't pay for the war with my body.
[01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:35.000]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money.
[01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:38.000]  I won't pay for the fun with my body.
[01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  I'm different, I'm wicked and the logic's shoddy.
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.000]  Alright folks, we are back.
[01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:48.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio, and we are back to Olivia in D.C.
[01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:49.000]  Alright Olivia.
[01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.000]  I promise I, I promise I honestly don't know.
[01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.000]  No, that's okay. I was just hoping I hadn't lost you for some reason.
[01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.000]  But strange things, strange things.
[01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.000]  Well okay, back to the scenario.
[01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:05.000]  You know, both are involved in tort claims.
[01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:11.000]  You know, no one had any type of probable cause to do anything.
[01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:15.000]  It's just that the situation has totally spiraled.
[01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.000]  Okay, when you say they didn't have any probable cause,
[01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:24.000]  what's the situation that they are alleging gave them any probable cause to do something?
[01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.000]  And what did they do?
[01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:33.000]  Okay, the first step, my vehicle was...
[01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.000]  Whoa, whoa, whoa. Your what?
[01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:36.000]  My vehicle.
[01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:37.000]  Your what?
[01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.000]  My car I was driving.
[01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:40.000]  You were what?
[01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.000]  My tags were taken off the car.
[01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:49.000]  Wait, wait, wait. You were in a vehicle that you were driving without tags?
[01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:52.000]  No, no, no. It had my own private tag.
[01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.000]  Okay, but you're not following what I'm saying here.
[01:04:55.000 --> 01:05:01.000]  You were in a vehicle that you were driving without proper state tags.
[01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  Yes, yes. I guess in their minds that was their probable cause.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:15.000]  Okay, but you're just admitting that they had probable cause if your statement is what you just said.
[01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.000]  Do you follow?
[01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  I don't have a personal right, I don't have a private right to drive in my own vehicle or...
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.000]  No, you're missing the point here.
[01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  Vehicle and drive are what?
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  You're exactly right.
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.000]  Commerce expressions, you're exactly right.
[01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  I was traveling down the road in my private conveyance when I was accosted by our security guard who demanded I comply with their wishes.
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:06:06.000]  And the first offense was total extortion because I was parked in a private parking lot when this our security guard approached me and started questioning me.
[01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  I was already outside of my vehicle.
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.000]  Outside of the what?
[01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:20.000]  I was already outside of my car. I had parked, I had turned off ignition and gotten out of the vehicle.
[01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.000]  Out of the what?
[01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  I had parked, I had not gotten out of the vehicle.
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.000]  Out of the what?
[01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.000]  Out of my car.
[01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:33.000]  There you go. See, this is the part I was talking about on practice.
[01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:41.000]  When you keep making those statements, you're confirming everything they need to make the assertions that they're making.
[01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:44.000]  Exactly, exactly, exactly.
[01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:54.000]  I was keeping it clear exactly what happened, but I was under the impression now we're all on the same page.
[01:06:54.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  His impression was you need a license and you need tags and you need insurance.
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:11.000]  I'm in my own private car. What are you talking about?
[01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:17.000]  At that point, he took my tags off of my car and towed my vehicle.
[01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:25.000]  Towed my car at a tow truck come and towed my car at which time I was exported maybe out of maybe $300.
[01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  I think the state may have took $50 and the tow truck company charged me $150, whatever it was, to that amount, $250, $50, $300.
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:44.000]  At that point, I made it very clear I don't have any type of license.
[01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.000]  I don't have what you're saying as a registration to get my vehicle.
[01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:54.000]  This is total south highway robbery. Everything rolled into one.
[01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.000]  We'll give you a break.
[01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:03.000]  The break was I could use my own private identification to get my vehicle,
[01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:11.000]  but get my car with no license as they said and a bill of sale because I have no registration.
[01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:19.000]  This is the first case where I was never notified of the court date that instantly turned into a bench warrant.
[01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  Well, when you say you were not notified, are you talking about after you appeared in compliance with the citation
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:30.000]  or are you talking about giving a different notice before the appearance on the citation?
[01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.000]  I had never appeared on the citation.
[01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  All right. That was your first notice.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:45.000]  Okay. Now, whether or not it's proper, that's a separate issue.
[01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:50.000]  But their argument is going to be the citation is your first notice.
[01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:55.000]  And it's the only notice required according to them most of the time.
[01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:57.000]  Now, I'm not saying that's true.
[01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:03.000]  I'm simply saying that will be the argument. Okay?
[01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.000]  Okay.
[01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:16.000]  So the problem here is one, you have not yet put in enough practice to avoid the terminology that implicates you as being commercial.
[01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.000]  And you understand why I say that?
[01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  I understand exactly.
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.000]  Okay. So you need to practice avoiding that.
[01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:29.000]  You need to become allergic to the eight deadly sins. And you know what those are, right?
[01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:30.000]  Commercial terms.
[01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.000]  Yes. But you know which ones specifically those are, right?
[01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:36.000]  They're a pretty good idea.
[01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:44.000]  If you've gone to the logosradionetwork.com forward slash T-A-O page and downloaded those documents there
[01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:49.000]  and you've looked at the eight deadly sins in the beginning of the cross-examination practice script,
[01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:52.000]  then you will know what they are.
[01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:56.000]  You need to become allergic to those terms.
[01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:06.000]  And they need, every time you hear them, they need to have you break out in objections, not in compliance by using them yourself.
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  You're very exact. That's very clear. You're right.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  Okay. So given that, that's why you've got a warrant in that one.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:26.000]  Now, as far as the medical reason you had to not appear in court on the other, the judge can't override a medical objection to your appearance.
[01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:32.000]  What did you provide that showed you were medically impaired and not capable of appearing?
[01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  Or wouldn't there would be no rational benefit to you appearing that the judge should be able to compel you to appear?
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:50.000]  Actually, I provided the emergency room report from the accident.
[01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.000]  Okay. But that just says you went to the emergency room.
[01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:59.000]  What did you provide the court that said you had an ongoing condition after that visit
[01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:08.000]  that would have made it medically necessary for you not to go down to the court or incapable of appearing in the court?
[01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  I made a statement attached with the paperwork to explain my medical condition,
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:23.000]  the fact that it was traumatic and the fact that it was ongoing and the fact that I'm taking pain medication.
[01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.000]  Okay. I understand all that.
[01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:35.000]  But you've got to understand that there's a difference between you trying to give a medical explanation to the judge as to why and your doctor doing it.
[01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:41.000]  If your medication specifically said do not operate a vehicle or heavy equipment
[01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  or that it has a symptom that can be loss of muscle control or spasms or possible narcolepsy or something like that,
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:58.000]  then that's a valid medical reason if you're prescribed that medication that you can get the doctor to write something to say,
[01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  look, she can't do this under this medication. And that would have given you grounds to ask for a continuance,
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.000]  which should have been what you did.
[01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:17.000]  If all you did was say I can't come because and did not mention that as a request for a continuance,
[01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:26.000]  then the judge is going to ignore it and, of course, he's going to do it in their favor, not yours.
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.000]  You follow?
[01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.000]  Yes. I hear you loud and clear.
[01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  Okay. So that's the problems of where you are.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:36.000]  I understand that you meant well in either case,
[01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:47.000]  but the problem is you're not providing yourself with what you need to protect yourself from the repercussions of how they're going to take it.
[01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:49.000]  Okay. Think faster than they do.
[01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.000]  That's not hard, believe me.
[01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  So just try to think of all the ways they can try to screw over anything you do
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:06.000]  and make sure that what you do contends for each of those possibilities.
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  If they say this, I need to provide this to prove that that's not right.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:14.000]  If they do this, I need to provide this because that will prove they're not right, blah, blah, blah.
[01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  Protect yourself.
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  I see your point, Eddie. It's just that the circumstances happen very quickly.
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:25.000]  No, I understand that, and I understand that, believe me.
[01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:36.000]  But I'm just trying to get you to understand that they will take every advantage they can to deprive you of everything they can.
[01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:47.000]  That's why you can't do just what you think needs to be done without the support of people that they can't rebut in that area.
[01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.000]  You follow?
[01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:52.000]  Because it's dangerous.
[01:13:52.000 --> 01:14:04.000]  You're seeing right now the kind of crap they pull when yours is the only thing they have to contend with as far as an opinion or a reason.
[01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.000]  Exactly. At this point, what would you do?
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:11.000]  Make some noise to a chief judge, perhaps?
[01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:15.000]  That's like below the belt.
[01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:22.000]  Well, I would get the stuff I need together, go to the doctor and say, look, that stuff you had me on that had me messed up,
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:28.000]  I just need you to write me something that says the effects would have kept me from traveling in a car and blah, blah, blah.
[01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  And then you can do an affidavit that says under this prescription and doctor's orders, I could not get in a car.
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:40.000]  I did not have access to public transportation or to a private ride down to the courthouse.
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:47.000]  And go in and say, OK, I'm here. You've issued a warrant. And I told you I had a medical reason for not being here.
[01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:51.000]  And you decided to play doctor and order me here anyway.
[01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:55.000]  And when I wasn't able to come, you issued a warrant. I'm here to deal with that warrant.
[01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:03.000]  And here's the medical proof that the warrant needs to be recalled.
[01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.000]  Now, that'll handle one of them.
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:11.000]  The other one where you didn't appear in response to the citation, you got to find out what the rules are,
[01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:15.000]  what they are allowed to do about that and what they aren't.
[01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:28.000]  Because that one's going to fall on you as far as not responding to the ticket, at least in some manner that they would recognize.
[01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  OK. Absolutely. You're absolutely correct. Thank you.
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.000]  Thank you for your expert opinion. And have a good evening.
[01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:38.000]  All right, Olivia. Sorry, it couldn't be better news, but that's the way they play the game.
[01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.000]  That's fine. That's fine.
[01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.000]  All right. You have a good night and thanks for calling.
[01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  Thank you.
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:49.000]  All right. Now we're going to go to Marie in Texas. Marie, what can we do for you?
[01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  Hi, Eddie. Thank you so much for all that you do.
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  I sued the attorney, the U.S. Attorney General, and we made an agreement.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:06.000]  We settled in, made an agreement, and I was able to pursue my lawsuit.
[01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:16.000]  And I, of course, I used the argument that we had an agreement with the government and the government reneged or took back.
[01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.000]  They breached the agreement.
[01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:24.000]  Back on their agreement. What recourse do I have, please? Do you know?
[01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  When the government enters into a contract, and there's case law on this at the federal level,
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  when the government enters into a contract, it has no more and no less rights than any other private business entity.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  It does not enter into a contract with a governmental capacity under the terms of the contract.
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:54.000]  Now, outside of that, not much you can touch them on. But if they violated the terms of a negotiable contract, they got a problem.
[01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.000]  All right. So if you'll hang on, Marie, we'll take that up again on the other side.
[01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:01.000]  We'll be right back, folks, so y'all hang on.
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[01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:34.000]  Hi, folks.
[01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:35.000]  We are back.
[01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:39.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio, and we are talking to Marie in Texas.
[01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:42.000]  All right, Marie, please continue.
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:51.000]  So we argued, and the appellate court appealed, and the appellate court ruled in their favor, stating that the agreement was confusing.
[01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:55.000]  Okay.
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  And is it?
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.000]  No, it's not.
[01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:08.000]  It specifically states what the intentions were, but I believe that the courts are biased towards the attorney.
[01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:11.000]  Oh, that's always going to be the case in the lower federal courts.
[01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  All right.
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.000]  Well, then your next objective is to appeal above the court you're in.
[01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  You went, it was a state district court, correct?
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:21.000]  I'm assuming fifth.
[01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  U.S.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.000]  Well, I'm sorry, U.S. district court.
[01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  And who was the judge?
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:29.000]  Sparks by any chance?
[01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:30.000]  Oh, no, no.
[01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:32.000]  This was in the appellate court in D.C.
[01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:33.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:35.000]  So this was actually in the appellate court.
[01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  Yes.
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:41.000]  We appealed because, you know, we had a good argument, obviously.
[01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:46.000]  We did have the agreement, and like I said, they ruled in their favor.
[01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:51.000]  So now I'm requesting another hearing.
[01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:59.000]  And, of course, I have to cite, you know, my reasons for wanting to have a bigger court or, you know...
[01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  You want to do an in-bank?
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  Yes.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  Okay.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:09.000]  Do you recommend anything?
[01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:14.000]  Do you recommend a search term to try to find case law?
[01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:21.000]  Well, I mean, basically, without reading the terms of the contract to know exactly what it is that's being negotiated,
[01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:25.000]  did they tell you what they're alleging is unclear?
[01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:26.000]  No.
[01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.000]  They just said it was unclear.
[01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:32.000]  And I figure since they're on the plus board, they could get away with that.
[01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:33.000]  Okay.
[01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:38.000]  Well, then let me try and boil that down a little bit.
[01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:49.000]  Did they bother to respond or notify you as to was your complaint unclear or was the terms of the contract itself unclear?
[01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:50.000]  It was the...
[01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  They said the agreement was murky.
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:53.000]  Okay.
[01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:54.000]  The agreement was murky.
[01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:58.000]  Are there terms in the agreement that require special definition?
[01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:01.000]  And does the agreement contain those definitions?
[01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  Or is there some specific reference to those definitions?
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.000]  We can't both talk because I'm going to tromp over you when you do that.
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:18.000]  Or is there some special place that contains those definitions as they're being used in the contract?
[01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:20.000]  It was very, very...
[01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:24.000]  In layman's terms, it was set out.
[01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:25.000]  Okay.
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:30.000]  In layman's terms, that might be part of the problem.
[01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:35.000]  Does the contract deal with anything technical?
[01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  No.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:38.000]  Okay.
[01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  Then there shouldn't be any technical term requiring technical definitions.
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:50.000]  Does it contain any legal terms that were not properly defined?
[01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.000]  No.
[01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:53.000]  Okay.
[01:22:53.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  Then if you can assert that they were in fact clear and distinctive as to what the requirements of the agreement are, then I would move from the court that actually made the ruling for findings of facts and conclusions of law.
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:19.000]  What are you basing your assertion that it's murky on?
[01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:23.000]  How are you defining murky?
[01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:28.000]  What constitutes murky?
[01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:32.000]  Because what it sounds like to me is this is not anything about the contract.
[01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  This is about avoidance of making a decision.
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.000]  I agree.
[01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:50.000]  So you should be able to make a motion for finding the facts and conclusions of law to see how they determined murky and what constitutes murky.
[01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:51.000]  Okay.
[01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:52.000]  Great.
[01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:53.000]  Thank you so much, Eddie.
[01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:56.000]  If you have an email that I may reach you at, please.
[01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:03.000]  Yes, Eddie, E-D-D-I-E at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:04.000]  Thank you so much.
[01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.000]  I really appreciate all that you do for us.
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:07.000]  God bless you.
[01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:08.000]  Thank you, ma'am.
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.000]  You too.
[01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:10.000]  Appreciate it.
[01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:12.000]  All right.
[01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.000]  Now we're going to go to Kenny in Michigan.
[01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:19.000]  Kenny, what can we do for you?
[01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:20.000]  Hold on here.
[01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  My call screening board keeps jumping around like crazy.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:23.000]  All right.
[01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  Kenny, what can we do for you?
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:25.000]  All right.
[01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:26.000]  Can you hear me?
[01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:27.000]  I can now.
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:28.000]  All right.
[01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:29.000]  Thanks for having me.
[01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:35.000]  Well, I have a quick little story to tell you here, and then I'll get to my question.
[01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  Several months ago, I got pulled over by a deputy while I was traveling in my personal
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  car, and he handed me an invitation to go to a court because I broke one of their alleged
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:52.000]  statutes here for an expired plate.
[01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:59.000]  And when I went to my pretrial, I verbally asked for subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:05.000]  Well, she didn't want to give it to me, the prosecuting attorney, so she just filed a
[01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:09.000]  motion that the matter go to trial.
[01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:15.500]  Anyways, about a half week later, I get a letter in the mail that dismissed the case
[01:25:15.500 --> 01:25:17.000]  for the interest of justice.
[01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  So I had some victory on that.
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:23.000]  I was very excited.
[01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:28.600]  Now several weeks ago, I got pulled over while I was traveling in my personal car by a state
[01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:36.000]  cop, and I had no plate on my car at this point.
[01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.000]  I did the same thing.
[01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:45.800]  I went to my pretrial, and I asked prosecuting attorney yet again if she had subject matter
[01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:50.120]  jurisdiction, and she didn't want anything to do with it.
[01:25:50.120 --> 01:25:53.480]  She didn't want to prove it to me enough, and she just said, you'll find it all out
[01:25:53.480 --> 01:25:55.200]  in trial.
[01:25:55.200 --> 01:25:59.800]  And so here we are at this point going to trial over it.
[01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:07.240]  My question for you is, how long do I have after they send me my letter of trial to file
[01:26:07.240 --> 01:26:09.800]  for a plea to subject matter jurisdiction?
[01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:14.160]  You can file a plea to jurisdiction any time.
[01:26:14.160 --> 01:26:16.720]  There is no statute of limitations.
[01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:23.200]  Even if you get convicted and it's 50 years later, you can file a plea to jurisdiction.
[01:26:23.200 --> 01:26:25.400]  Really?
[01:26:25.400 --> 01:26:27.800]  Yep.
[01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:31.200]  So I could pretty much go file that on the same day of my trial.
[01:26:31.200 --> 01:26:34.680]  Yeah, but I don't recommend you do that.
[01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:40.400]  You get, when you're doing things that challenge the jurisdiction of someone else to act, you
[01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:47.120]  do your challenge as early as possible so that they have no claim of lack of notice
[01:26:47.120 --> 01:26:48.120]  or time.
[01:26:48.120 --> 01:26:49.120]  Okay.
[01:26:49.120 --> 01:26:50.120]  All right.
[01:26:50.120 --> 01:26:57.200]  Yeah, it wasn't my intentions to file it the same day, but I was just curious.
[01:26:57.200 --> 01:27:03.480]  No, I'm hoping not, but I'm just trying to explain why you don't want to do that.
[01:27:03.480 --> 01:27:04.480]  Okay.
[01:27:04.480 --> 01:27:12.120]  Is there any specific things that I should say while filing the subject matter jurisdiction?
[01:27:12.120 --> 01:27:14.320]  Well that depends.
[01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:18.080]  What research have you done on the statute you're challenging to show that it's commercial
[01:27:18.080 --> 01:27:24.240]  rather than private as Colorado has attempted to apply it via the wording of theirs, even
[01:27:24.240 --> 01:27:27.360]  though it's essentially the same thing as everybody else's?
[01:27:27.360 --> 01:27:28.560]  Yep.
[01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:31.160]  I got it here.
[01:27:31.160 --> 01:27:40.840]  The citation that they handed me was an ordinance that I wrote under 257.255 under the international
[01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:41.840]  registration plan.
[01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:44.840]  That would be the Secretary of State of Michigan.
[01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:50.040]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, international is not just Michigan.
[01:27:50.040 --> 01:27:51.880]  Right.
[01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:53.680]  It follows through a couple of states here.
[01:27:53.680 --> 01:28:00.120]  I understand that, but this is through the jurisdiction of the state of Michigan.
[01:28:00.120 --> 01:28:01.120]  Okay.
[01:28:01.120 --> 01:28:08.160]  So I did my research on that and then the international registration plan, the summary
[01:28:08.160 --> 01:28:13.400]  that I got here is that the international registration plan is a program for licensing
[01:28:13.400 --> 01:28:16.720]  commercial vehicles, trucks, and non-chartered buses.
[01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:17.720]  Right.
[01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:23.440]  So right there you've got exactly what the basis of the statute is that they're using.
[01:28:23.440 --> 01:28:24.880]  Correct.
[01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:25.920]  Okay.
[01:28:25.920 --> 01:28:32.160]  So I would supply a copy of that in my assertion of lack of jurisdiction.
[01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:35.520]  Remember, there's two things you want to make sure you do.
[01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:39.840]  Every piece of paper you file and every time you enter a courtroom to talk to anyone for
[01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:45.520]  any reason or you do anything related to this case for any reason, the two things out of
[01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:50.520]  your mouth is I'm here by special appearance to challenge the jurisdiction of the court
[01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:55.840]  or whoever you're talking, of the court for this trial, whatever it is.
[01:28:55.840 --> 01:29:00.120]  And that's, you're going to follow through on that at every time.
[01:29:00.120 --> 01:29:02.840]  It's always a special appearance, always.
[01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:08.000]  And I challenge the states standing in this matter because state has failed to prove that
[01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:10.360]  I was acting in commerce.
[01:29:10.360 --> 01:29:14.800]  And when they try to say this is not about commercial and they say we're using this international
[01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:20.880]  standard, then you can say, well, by your own admission, you are using an agreement
[01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:29.240]  that specifically states that's what it's designed to do, regulate commercial vehicles.
[01:29:29.240 --> 01:29:34.220]  And I would include that in my argument and file it as a special appearance and motion
[01:29:34.220 --> 01:29:40.200]  to dismiss for lack of standing in jurisdiction.
[01:29:40.200 --> 01:29:41.800]  And I would cite that as the reasons.
[01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:44.780]  They have no jurisdiction because there is no standing.
[01:29:44.780 --> 01:29:48.920]  There is no standing because you're not commercial and there's your attached document to prove
[01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:49.920]  it.
[01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:50.920]  All right.
[01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:53.920]  So hang on just a sec.
[01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:55.400]  We'll finish this up on the other side.
[01:29:55.400 --> 01:30:05.280]  We'll be right back, folks, so y'all hang on.
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[01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:35.920]  Hi, folks.
[01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:36.920]  We are back.
[01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:41.240]  This is Rule of Law Radio, and we are talking to Kenny in Michigan.
[01:33:41.240 --> 01:33:42.240]  All right, Kenny.
[01:33:42.240 --> 01:33:43.240]  Yes, sir.
[01:33:43.240 --> 01:33:44.240]  All right.
[01:33:44.240 --> 01:33:45.240]  Another question for you here.
[01:33:45.240 --> 01:33:46.240]  Okay.
[01:33:46.240 --> 01:33:53.360]  Because the citation that I got, of course, you know everything is so wishy-washy on these
[01:33:53.360 --> 01:33:54.360]  things.
[01:33:54.360 --> 01:34:02.600]  Is a traffic citation mainly civil or criminal?
[01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:06.880]  That depends upon how each particular state defines it.
[01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:12.440]  For instance, in California, they're civil.
[01:34:12.440 --> 01:34:14.720]  They're not even violations or offenses.
[01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:22.280]  They're infractions, and they're civil, whereas here in Texas, they try to treat them as criminal.
[01:34:22.280 --> 01:34:27.480]  Even though they violate every facet of criminal law there is in Texas, they try to call them
[01:34:27.480 --> 01:34:31.160]  criminal misdemeanors rather than civil.
[01:34:31.160 --> 01:34:33.760]  Okay.
[01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:37.560]  So it will depend upon how it's handled in your particular state.
[01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:48.760]  Well, from what I gathered on everything through the citation, Code 257.255, it said that I'm
[01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:58.440]  in violation of a misdemeanor that is punishable by imprisonment or $100.
[01:34:58.440 --> 01:35:01.440]  Okay, then they're treating it as criminal.
[01:35:01.440 --> 01:35:02.440]  Okay.
[01:35:02.440 --> 01:35:07.680]  So would it be in my best interest to keep this as a bench trial or as for a jury trial?
[01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:08.680]  Oh, no, no, no.
[01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:11.520]  We never, ever do bench trials.
[01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:17.720]  If for no other reason, we do it to cause them to have to spend money.
[01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:19.360]  Okay.
[01:35:19.360 --> 01:35:25.640]  But the problem, especially when it comes to being able to be locked up, you don't want
[01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:27.880]  to leave that in the hands of a judge.
[01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:28.880]  You do not.
[01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:35.000]  If they're telling you there can be a fine or imprisonment for X number of days, you
[01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:37.760]  definitely don't want a bench trial for that.
[01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:46.360]  The problem is, is you're not going to really get a chance to educate the jury either, but
[01:35:46.360 --> 01:35:51.440]  it's kind of hard to say because we do it to waste money and to force them into one
[01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:52.440]  thing.
[01:35:52.440 --> 01:35:59.280]  The problem is, you cannot get an appeal at all in these Class C fine-only misdemeanor
[01:35:59.280 --> 01:36:05.720]  cases unless the fine assessed is in excess of $100.
[01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:09.840]  So the jury has a two-fold purpose when you do a jury trial.
[01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:15.520]  One is to cost the system money because they have to pay the jury panel, and the other
[01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:20.040]  is to ensure that you have somebody to piss off hard enough that they will assess you
[01:36:20.040 --> 01:36:24.400]  the maximum fine in excess of $100.
[01:36:24.400 --> 01:36:28.400]  That way you at least get to take it up on appeal.
[01:36:28.400 --> 01:36:31.400]  Okay.
[01:36:31.400 --> 01:36:39.680]  So, can you appeal a jury trial then?
[01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:42.680]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:43.680]  Okay.
[01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:46.680]  All right.
[01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:51.880]  I guess my question for you then is, how do I go about asking for a jury trial?
[01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:55.280]  Is that something I got to file?
[01:36:55.280 --> 01:37:03.080]  Well, the first thing is, is make sure you don't enter a plea of any kind ever.
[01:37:03.080 --> 01:37:05.560]  Second thing is, is that you just make the statement.
[01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:06.840]  Don't ever give them permission.
[01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:12.100]  Don't ever say things like, fine, go ahead, I don't care, sure you can do that.
[01:37:12.100 --> 01:37:19.000]  Never consent to anything, even casually, ever.
[01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:24.280]  I would make sure that I get it on the record that if you're going to compel me to defend
[01:37:24.280 --> 01:37:32.160]  myself in an illegal trial, then I demand my right to a jury trial.
[01:37:32.160 --> 01:37:34.920]  But now you did one thing that I also don't recommend.
[01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:39.040]  You don't do anything verbally or orally.
[01:37:39.040 --> 01:37:45.480]  Everything we do is done in writing, everything, so that there is a record.
[01:37:45.480 --> 01:37:46.480]  Okay.
[01:37:46.480 --> 01:37:48.480]  All right.
[01:37:48.480 --> 01:37:49.480]  Yeah.
[01:37:49.480 --> 01:37:53.160]  The first time that I did it, I was very new to this.
[01:37:53.160 --> 01:37:57.040]  That's why I asked her and I was going to go file.
[01:37:57.040 --> 01:38:03.600]  I was still learning all this and they dismissed the case before I filed anything.
[01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:04.600]  Yeah.
[01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:09.800]  Sometimes that will happen, but we still try to make sure the record is as complete as
[01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:10.800]  possible.
[01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:17.320]  So, we file everything we request, demand or have a right to in writing.
[01:38:17.320 --> 01:38:18.320]  Okay.
[01:38:18.320 --> 01:38:19.320]  All righty.
[01:38:19.320 --> 01:38:20.320]  Okay.
[01:38:20.320 --> 01:38:21.320]  That pretty much answers all my questions.
[01:38:21.320 --> 01:38:22.320]  I appreciate it.
[01:38:22.320 --> 01:38:23.320]  Yes, sir, Kenny.
[01:38:23.320 --> 01:38:24.320]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:38:24.320 --> 01:38:25.320]  Thank you.
[01:38:25.320 --> 01:38:26.320]  All right.
[01:38:26.320 --> 01:38:27.320]  That kind of cleans up my call board.
[01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:28.320]  I need some more callers.
[01:38:28.320 --> 01:38:29.320]  Five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four,
[01:38:29.320 --> 01:38:30.320]  five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four,
[01:38:30.320 --> 01:38:35.320]  three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two,
[01:38:35.320 --> 01:38:40.320]  five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four,
[01:38:40.320 --> 01:38:44.320]  five, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one more.
[01:38:44.320 --> 01:38:51.320]  Five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four,
[01:38:51.320 --> 01:38:56.320]  four, five, one, two, three, four, five, five, five, one, two, three, four, five, five,
[01:38:56.320 --> 01:39:03.420]  Yes, if you can show that he did not follow law or his interpretation of the law was incorrect
[01:39:03.420 --> 01:39:09.500]  based upon other factors, then you have the right to appeal that decision without it leaving
[01:39:09.500 --> 01:39:10.820]  that court.
[01:39:10.820 --> 01:39:12.700]  That's called an interlocutory appeal.
[01:39:12.700 --> 01:39:18.500]  When you go over his head to ask the other court to make a ruling on what he decided
[01:39:18.500 --> 01:39:20.500]  to do one way or the other.
[01:39:20.500 --> 01:39:24.460]  Who do I appeal it to?
[01:39:24.460 --> 01:39:28.060]  Well, whatever court is over that judge's court.
[01:39:28.060 --> 01:39:35.780]  Now, I asked the clerk and he said that there's a judge, the magistrate is the sign that's
[01:39:35.780 --> 01:39:41.860]  supposed to be like a liaison, you know, bookkeeper guy.
[01:39:41.860 --> 01:39:46.460]  And then there's a judge on top of him, and he said...
[01:39:46.460 --> 01:39:50.580]  Well, they can say that in a way that makes it sound confusing.
[01:39:50.580 --> 01:39:52.780]  This is the way it generally works.
[01:39:52.780 --> 01:40:00.260]  A magistrate is the hat they wear when they're doing basic inter-house functions, okay?
[01:40:00.260 --> 01:40:04.220]  Certain things are always done wearing a magistrate's hat.
[01:40:04.220 --> 01:40:08.780]  But then they also can turn around when they're presiding over actual hearings and trials
[01:40:08.780 --> 01:40:10.800]  and act as judges.
[01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:16.060]  They're generally one in the same person, but the duties under each hat are different.
[01:40:16.060 --> 01:40:24.060]  Now, there is usually what's known as a presiding judge or a head administrative judge that
[01:40:24.060 --> 01:40:31.140]  is over all the other judges in that particular realm, whatever that may be.
[01:40:31.140 --> 01:40:35.820]  And if you have an issue with one of the lower judges, then you take it up with that head
[01:40:35.820 --> 01:40:39.540]  administrative judge at the top.
[01:40:39.540 --> 01:40:46.780]  Now they may be in the same court, but they're a different judge that has overruling powers
[01:40:46.780 --> 01:40:49.140]  of the one you're appealing.
[01:40:49.140 --> 01:40:51.700]  All right.
[01:40:51.700 --> 01:40:53.300]  Okay.
[01:40:53.300 --> 01:40:58.180]  Now the difference is, is when you have to do this appeal process for that ruling of
[01:40:58.180 --> 01:41:04.340]  the judge in the federal courts, I don't know that you're allowed to go to the head administrative
[01:41:04.340 --> 01:41:06.860]  judge to overrule the judge of that court.
[01:41:06.860 --> 01:41:12.900]  As far as I can recall, you have to do an interlocutory appeal, which is the next court
[01:41:12.900 --> 01:41:19.620]  up that would be the appeals court from that court and ask them to hand down a reversal
[01:41:19.620 --> 01:41:25.420]  or a directive, which sometimes you might be able to do through a writ of mandamus rather
[01:41:25.420 --> 01:41:26.420]  than an appeal.
[01:41:26.420 --> 01:41:31.820]  But at the federal level, I think the appeals are much more preferable to do the interlocutory
[01:41:31.820 --> 01:41:34.860]  and say, okay, look, this judge is not abiding by the law down here.
[01:41:34.860 --> 01:41:40.540]  I need you guys to intervene and say, look, this is what the law requires and we need
[01:41:40.540 --> 01:41:45.580]  you to follow the law judge and make a better ruling than this.
[01:41:45.580 --> 01:41:46.580]  Okay.
[01:41:46.580 --> 01:41:47.580]  Okay.
[01:41:47.580 --> 01:41:48.580]  Yeah.
[01:41:48.580 --> 01:41:54.660]  And one other thing, if you don't have anybody else on the call yet.
[01:41:54.660 --> 01:41:55.660]  Actually I do.
[01:41:55.660 --> 01:41:57.100]  I've got a couple of callers that have popped up on the board.
[01:41:57.100 --> 01:42:00.260]  So if you can make it quick, I'll let you go.
[01:42:00.260 --> 01:42:04.940]  I got behind schedule and I got behind and I have a letter and I didn't want them to
[01:42:04.940 --> 01:42:05.940]  put it on the internet.
[01:42:05.940 --> 01:42:06.940]  So I didn't tell them.
[01:42:06.940 --> 01:42:12.420]  I have had a situation where I have internal bleeding, very serious.
[01:42:12.420 --> 01:42:15.540]  And when that happens, I just kind of stop.
[01:42:15.540 --> 01:42:16.540]  Okay.
[01:42:16.540 --> 01:42:22.420]  And so I have a letter that was directed to, you know, a flight, but it's from the surgeon
[01:42:22.420 --> 01:42:25.940]  and from a specialist, my doctor.
[01:42:25.940 --> 01:42:31.820]  So I was going to send an affidavit back explaining if there were delays and I was really medicated
[01:42:31.820 --> 01:42:32.820]  one time.
[01:42:32.820 --> 01:42:37.940]  Well, instead of an affidavit, you may want to send it in as a motion for continuance
[01:42:37.940 --> 01:42:43.140]  because those generally have to be verified like an affidavit would be anyway and attach
[01:42:43.140 --> 01:42:47.740]  that letter or whatever as your exhibit showing that you have a medical condition that's requiring
[01:42:47.740 --> 01:42:48.740]  a delay.
[01:42:48.740 --> 01:42:58.060]  The cause of delay before for the continuation of the interlocutory appeal because I didn't
[01:42:58.060 --> 01:43:00.100]  know so I didn't do it.
[01:43:00.100 --> 01:43:01.100]  Yeah.
[01:43:01.100 --> 01:43:02.100]  So thank you very much.
[01:43:02.100 --> 01:43:03.700]  I don't want to take any more of your time.
[01:43:03.700 --> 01:43:04.700]  You've been wonderful.
[01:43:04.700 --> 01:43:05.700]  Well, thank you, ma'am.
[01:43:05.700 --> 01:43:08.540]  And you have a great night and thanks for calling in.
[01:43:08.540 --> 01:43:09.540]  Thank you.
[01:43:09.540 --> 01:43:10.540]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:43:10.540 --> 01:43:11.540]  All right.
[01:43:11.540 --> 01:43:17.620]  Russ, I see you there on the board, but I'm about 45 seconds from having to take a break.
[01:43:17.620 --> 01:43:21.420]  So if you'll hang on, I will catch you in this last segment here and deal with whatever
[01:43:21.420 --> 01:43:22.420]  you got.
[01:43:22.420 --> 01:43:24.420]  So please don't drop off the line.
[01:43:24.420 --> 01:43:28.860]  Folks, we're going to take a short break here in about 30 seconds.
[01:43:28.860 --> 01:43:34.880]  So y'all hang on and give us a little bit and we will be right back to finish up this
[01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:36.540]  show for our Monday night.
[01:43:36.540 --> 01:43:37.820]  So y'all hang in there.
[01:43:37.820 --> 01:43:38.820]  Russ, hold on.
[01:43:38.820 --> 01:44:00.660]  We'll be right back momentarily, man.
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[01:46:24.860 --> 01:46:30.700]  We are back, Rule of Law Radio, and we are going to try to round this out with Russ in
[01:46:30.700 --> 01:46:31.700]  Texas.
[01:46:31.700 --> 01:46:34.660]  And if we get anybody else on here before then and get done with him early, we might
[01:46:34.660 --> 01:46:36.700]  take one more, but we'll have to see.
[01:46:36.700 --> 01:46:39.460]  All right, Russ, what can we do for you?
[01:46:39.460 --> 01:46:46.820]  Well, sir, I had a couple of questions on some nuts and bolts type of issues in regards
[01:46:46.820 --> 01:46:52.100]  to getting out of the commercial and using your private auto.
[01:46:52.100 --> 01:47:01.740]  If one does that, are you responsible for your own, I hate to call it insurance, but
[01:47:01.740 --> 01:47:05.340]  when you're in commercial, you're allowed to get insurance and you have to have a driver
[01:47:05.340 --> 01:47:06.340]  license.
[01:47:06.340 --> 01:47:12.420]  So when you leave that, is there any way to do any kind of financial similarity?
[01:47:12.420 --> 01:47:17.980]  There used to be several folks that were organizing their own private insurance, self-insured
[01:47:17.980 --> 01:47:20.540]  organization.
[01:47:20.540 --> 01:47:26.460]  But the states tried to squash as many of them as possible so that they couldn't do
[01:47:26.460 --> 01:47:27.700]  that.
[01:47:27.700 --> 01:47:29.180]  They were private insurance.
[01:47:29.180 --> 01:47:31.620]  They weren't publicly available.
[01:47:31.620 --> 01:47:38.340]  They were private groups that agreed in a consensus contract to cover each other, so
[01:47:38.340 --> 01:47:39.340]  to speak.
[01:47:39.340 --> 01:47:40.340]  Okay.
[01:47:40.340 --> 01:47:45.300]  But how many of those are still out there and available, I could not tell you.
[01:47:45.300 --> 01:47:53.740]  But in reality, yes, you're responsible for any harm you would do to anyone or their property
[01:47:53.740 --> 01:47:55.420]  and vice versa.
[01:47:55.420 --> 01:48:00.300]  The problem is, of course, is when the person that caused the harm has nothing to compensate
[01:48:00.300 --> 01:48:03.260]  you with.
[01:48:03.260 --> 01:48:10.660]  And in that case, that was those days when a person is not an indentured servant when
[01:48:10.660 --> 01:48:18.180]  they're sentenced to have to serve out as punishment the cost of their harm.
[01:48:18.180 --> 01:48:23.740]  That's a completely different thing than being forced to work for no money or compensation
[01:48:23.740 --> 01:48:26.060]  for no reason whatsoever.
[01:48:26.060 --> 01:48:30.820]  They used to do it all the time, even in the early days of our country after the Constitution
[01:48:30.820 --> 01:48:31.820]  was formed.
[01:48:31.820 --> 01:48:34.140]  It wasn't indentured servitude.
[01:48:34.140 --> 01:48:40.540]  It was required servitude for causing a damage and having to work off the money that you
[01:48:40.540 --> 01:48:41.580]  owed.
[01:48:41.580 --> 01:48:42.580]  It was part of that.
[01:48:42.580 --> 01:48:44.740]  You can't put them in prison for a debt stuff.
[01:48:44.740 --> 01:48:52.140]  So you're not going to imprison them for it, but you can sentence them to work it off.
[01:48:52.140 --> 01:48:55.580]  But technically, when you cause a harm, you're liable.
[01:48:55.580 --> 01:48:59.900]  If someone causes a harm to you, they're liable.
[01:48:59.900 --> 01:49:02.420]  It's getting the courts to enforce it that way.
[01:49:02.420 --> 01:49:03.420]  That becomes the issue.
[01:49:03.420 --> 01:49:12.260]  So I heard a bond, you could pick up some kind of a financial bond for that?
[01:49:12.260 --> 01:49:14.100]  For which aspect of it?
[01:49:14.100 --> 01:49:15.660]  The insurance part or?
[01:49:15.660 --> 01:49:17.900]  Yeah, for the insurance part.
[01:49:17.900 --> 01:49:23.380]  If I were the cause of an accident and I caused harm, a bond would just be proof.
[01:49:23.380 --> 01:49:25.860]  Well, you can do a bond today.
[01:49:25.860 --> 01:49:26.860]  Right.
[01:49:26.860 --> 01:49:30.580]  But it requires that you put up $50,000 in cash to do it.
[01:49:30.580 --> 01:49:32.580]  Oh, is it that much?
[01:49:32.580 --> 01:49:33.580]  Yeah.
[01:49:33.580 --> 01:49:34.580]  I wasn't really sure.
[01:49:34.580 --> 01:49:35.580]  Okay.
[01:49:35.580 --> 01:49:36.580]  Okay.
[01:49:36.580 --> 01:49:44.260]  And usually the bond for that in any of the current situations is whatever the state minimum
[01:49:44.260 --> 01:49:47.980]  of insurance coverage is.
[01:49:47.980 --> 01:49:54.260]  But the bond is still something that's founded under the transportation code.
[01:49:54.260 --> 01:50:00.820]  So if you do the bond, then you're still agreeing to be considered in transportation.
[01:50:00.820 --> 01:50:02.180]  That's the catch to it.
[01:50:02.180 --> 01:50:03.180]  Okay.
[01:50:03.180 --> 01:50:04.740]  So I wasn't really sure about that aspect.
[01:50:04.740 --> 01:50:10.660]  What you're saying is if you're traveling in your private capacity only, then you should
[01:50:10.660 --> 01:50:14.740]  probably stay away from those types of instruments.
[01:50:14.740 --> 01:50:19.780]  As far as them being ones relating to state activity, absolutely.
[01:50:19.780 --> 01:50:24.380]  That's why the private insurers that were banding together to form their own little
[01:50:24.380 --> 01:50:31.420]  coalition were so prevalent in the beginning, because that kept them out of the state system,
[01:50:31.420 --> 01:50:35.580]  but it still allowed them to prove that they had the financial responsibility necessary
[01:50:35.580 --> 01:50:38.100]  to respond if they caused damage.
[01:50:38.100 --> 01:50:39.100]  Okay.
[01:50:39.100 --> 01:50:46.820]  And then secondly, when one rescinds their driver license, is there any benefit to doing
[01:50:46.820 --> 01:50:49.100]  it in person and getting a receipt?
[01:50:49.100 --> 01:50:53.500]  No, you can do it by certified mail and have a receipt that it was returned.
[01:50:53.500 --> 01:50:56.500]  But let me put a caveat on this for you.
[01:50:56.500 --> 01:51:01.540]  Not knowing what your experience level or your research level or any of the other levels
[01:51:01.540 --> 01:51:05.220]  you need to deal with this are.
[01:51:05.220 --> 01:51:07.740]  Do not take this lightly.
[01:51:07.740 --> 01:51:13.220]  Do not step off into this thinking it's all a cakewalk or that you can just do it and
[01:51:13.220 --> 01:51:15.180]  nothing will follow.
[01:51:15.180 --> 01:51:17.660]  That is absolutely not the case.
[01:51:17.660 --> 01:51:25.220]  I've got about two or three years of research into it and I've resigned and rescinded all
[01:51:25.220 --> 01:51:29.820]  of my contracts, including Social Security, and the only thing I have left is the driver
[01:51:29.820 --> 01:51:30.820]  license.
[01:51:30.820 --> 01:51:31.820]  Okay.
[01:51:31.820 --> 01:51:36.380]  The fact that you've rescinded any of this is not relevant to the fact that they're going
[01:51:36.380 --> 01:51:41.460]  to try to press you back into it by saying you're required to have it anyway.
[01:51:41.460 --> 01:51:42.460]  Yes.
[01:51:42.460 --> 01:51:43.460]  Okay.
[01:51:43.460 --> 01:51:47.940]  When that happens, you're going to get thrown into their world.
[01:51:47.940 --> 01:51:57.420]  If you are not prepared for everything that happens in their world, you will get steamrolled.
[01:51:57.420 --> 01:52:00.680]  That's what I need you to understand about the choice you're making here.
[01:52:00.680 --> 01:52:01.680]  This is not easy.
[01:52:01.680 --> 01:52:06.300]  I've been doing about two or three years worth of research and I've got a group together
[01:52:06.300 --> 01:52:07.300]  of people in California.
[01:52:07.300 --> 01:52:08.300]  Okay.
[01:52:08.300 --> 01:52:12.380]  Do they help you practice for going to court, how to handle the stop and so on and so forth?
[01:52:12.380 --> 01:52:18.940]  I've been listening to you for about a year and a half and I've listened to all your archives
[01:52:18.940 --> 01:52:24.140]  and I've got an active group that I talk to on a regular basis with people doing that.
[01:52:24.140 --> 01:52:25.140]  Okay.
[01:52:25.140 --> 01:52:29.540]  Trust me when I tell you that that is not the same thing as being in the middle of the
[01:52:29.540 --> 01:52:32.020]  situation and having to deal with it on the fly.
[01:52:32.020 --> 01:52:33.020]  Oh, I know.
[01:52:33.020 --> 01:52:35.020]  But I've got to get that experience.
[01:52:35.020 --> 01:52:39.540]  Well, the thing is though, there's a safer way to get the experience than getting thrown
[01:52:39.540 --> 01:52:41.540]  under the bus first.
[01:52:41.540 --> 01:52:42.820]  Okay.
[01:52:42.820 --> 01:52:47.740]  You need to find a group that knows how court proceedings function, that can play the individual
[01:52:47.740 --> 01:52:50.100]  parts of a court proceeding.
[01:52:50.100 --> 01:52:52.420]  Practice mock court proceedings.
[01:52:52.420 --> 01:52:55.340]  Practice mock traffic stops.
[01:52:55.340 --> 01:52:56.780]  Everybody be involved.
[01:52:56.780 --> 01:52:58.940]  Everybody learn every part.
[01:52:58.940 --> 01:53:01.820]  Everybody do something unexpected or different.
[01:53:01.820 --> 01:53:08.340]  Learn how to think on your feet in any situation, no matter what the pressure and who the opposition.
[01:53:08.340 --> 01:53:14.420]  If you don't do that, you will choke when that time comes.
[01:53:14.420 --> 01:53:17.320]  Things you need to say, you will forget to say.
[01:53:17.320 --> 01:53:20.940]  Things that you do say, you will say the wrong way.
[01:53:20.940 --> 01:53:25.780]  Trust me when I tell you, it can be a very nerve wracking experience when you haven't
[01:53:25.780 --> 01:53:29.480]  got the mindset prepped for this.
[01:53:29.480 --> 01:53:31.660]  And I'm not saying this will scare you off of it.
[01:53:31.660 --> 01:53:36.560]  I am telling you that this is not to be taken lightly because they take it as serious as
[01:53:36.560 --> 01:53:38.540]  anything else.
[01:53:38.540 --> 01:53:44.380]  Yeah, I've practiced your scripts and the seven deadly sins and, you know, I've been
[01:53:44.380 --> 01:53:49.220]  practicing for about a year just with friends and, you know, I don't use that terminology
[01:53:49.220 --> 01:53:50.220]  any longer.
[01:53:50.220 --> 01:53:54.340]  You know, it might pop up, you know, once every once in a while, but I pretty much got
[01:53:54.340 --> 01:53:55.860]  that language out of my...
[01:53:55.860 --> 01:53:56.860]  Okay.
[01:53:56.860 --> 01:53:58.700]  Well, then let's try something here real quick.
[01:53:58.700 --> 01:54:00.300]  You are in a court.
[01:54:00.300 --> 01:54:06.080]  The prosecution is questioning the cop that pulled you over and wrote you a ticket.
[01:54:06.080 --> 01:54:07.740]  This is what he asked the cop.
[01:54:07.740 --> 01:54:10.020]  What do you need to do?
[01:54:10.020 --> 01:54:15.380]  Officer Jones, when you stopped the defendant driving his automobile upon the...or his vehicle
[01:54:15.380 --> 01:54:16.380]  upon the highway.
[01:54:16.380 --> 01:54:17.380]  Object to the term driving.
[01:54:17.380 --> 01:54:25.180]  There has been no proof submitted that the defendant was driving at the time.
[01:54:25.180 --> 01:54:26.380]  Okay.
[01:54:26.380 --> 01:54:27.720]  It's an improper objection.
[01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:32.620]  What does the script tell you to say?
[01:54:32.620 --> 01:54:36.260]  Because if you say it the way you just said it, here's what's going to happen.
[01:54:36.260 --> 01:54:41.300]  Judge, if the defendant will please allow the officer to answer, the evidence of the
[01:54:41.300 --> 01:54:45.780]  testimony will be presented that he was driving.
[01:54:45.780 --> 01:54:50.620]  You see where that leaves you?
[01:54:50.620 --> 01:54:55.220]  Trust me when I tell you the legalese is important.
[01:54:55.220 --> 01:54:58.180]  What's the script tell you the proper objection is?
[01:54:58.180 --> 01:55:05.260]  You know, how do you use the term driving and, you know...
[01:55:05.260 --> 01:55:06.260]  Right.
[01:55:06.260 --> 01:55:10.500]  There's a proper objection to any of the deadly sins, but what you said is not it.
[01:55:10.500 --> 01:55:11.500]  Okay.
[01:55:11.500 --> 01:55:12.500]  What did I say?
[01:55:12.500 --> 01:55:13.500]  Objection.
[01:55:13.500 --> 01:55:19.060]  Assumes facts not in evidence, not previously agreed to, and requires a legal conclusion.
[01:55:19.060 --> 01:55:23.620]  See, you're not trying to assert any factual anything.
[01:55:23.620 --> 01:55:26.220]  You're leaving the burden of proof on them.
[01:55:26.220 --> 01:55:30.740]  You're objecting to the lack of proof, but you're doing it in a way that they can't use
[01:55:30.740 --> 01:55:34.980]  the testimony of the witness back against you, saying if you'll just let him finish
[01:55:34.980 --> 01:55:38.020]  answering the question, then you'll have it.
[01:55:38.020 --> 01:55:40.220]  You follow?
[01:55:40.220 --> 01:55:41.220]  Yeah.
[01:55:41.220 --> 01:55:42.220]  Okay.
[01:55:42.220 --> 01:55:43.220]  This is what I mean.
[01:55:43.220 --> 01:55:44.460]  This is why this takes practice.
[01:55:44.460 --> 01:55:49.980]  There is a right way and a million wrong ways.
[01:55:49.980 --> 01:55:50.980]  You got to be careful.
[01:55:50.980 --> 01:55:53.220]  The court is the most difficult part.
[01:55:53.220 --> 01:55:54.660]  Of course, yeah.
[01:55:54.660 --> 01:55:55.660]  Because it's the longest.
[01:55:55.660 --> 01:55:58.900]  The interaction there will generally be the longest, and it will be where you have to
[01:55:58.900 --> 01:56:03.140]  be the most careful because of the record that's being kept.
[01:56:03.140 --> 01:56:06.620]  But the same thing applies even on the side of the road when it comes to the terminology
[01:56:06.620 --> 01:56:11.620]  and the application of it, because that's usually being recorded nowadays as well.
[01:56:11.620 --> 01:56:13.420]  Any of that can be used against you.
[01:56:13.420 --> 01:56:16.740]  Object there as well?
[01:56:16.740 --> 01:56:18.260]  You just simply don't consent.
[01:56:18.260 --> 01:56:22.580]  Say, officer, I'm not engaged in any form of transportation or commercial use of the
[01:56:22.580 --> 01:56:28.980]  highways, and I don't consent to any attempt by you to infer that I am.
[01:56:28.980 --> 01:56:31.780]  Yeah.
[01:56:31.780 --> 01:56:35.380]  That's the whole purpose of that statement in the transportation script of I'm not engaged
[01:56:35.380 --> 01:56:43.260]  in any form of transportation or commercial use of the highways.
[01:56:43.260 --> 01:56:44.620]  So this is what I'm talking about.
[01:56:44.620 --> 01:56:47.220]  I'm not trying to be hard on you, but I'm just trying to get you to understand.
[01:56:47.220 --> 01:56:52.300]  You've got to be real meticulous in your language because language is what hangs you out to
[01:56:52.300 --> 01:56:54.060]  dry in these cases.
[01:56:54.060 --> 01:56:59.820]  Yeah, because the terminology that people use is not the terminology that they're talking
[01:56:59.820 --> 01:57:00.820]  about.
[01:57:00.820 --> 01:57:01.980]  That's correct.
[01:57:01.980 --> 01:57:06.620]  And all the definitions are in the law, and you have to go pull them out, and they're
[01:57:06.620 --> 01:57:07.620]  compounds.
[01:57:07.620 --> 01:57:08.900]  They have to put them back together again.
[01:57:08.900 --> 01:57:09.900]  Right.
[01:57:09.900 --> 01:57:12.220]  But the thing is, is you don't want to touch the definitions.
[01:57:12.220 --> 01:57:17.140]  They're not going to, but that means that they're trying to convict you and railroad
[01:57:17.140 --> 01:57:21.260]  you on a presumption of law, not a fact of law.
[01:57:21.260 --> 01:57:23.140]  And that's why you're objecting.
[01:57:23.140 --> 01:57:28.180]  You're presuming something, but you haven't offered any evidence to back it up.
[01:57:28.180 --> 01:57:29.660]  And I object to that.
[01:57:29.660 --> 01:57:30.660]  Yeah.
[01:57:30.660 --> 01:57:34.140]  What factor evidence do you have that I was driving at the time?
[01:57:34.140 --> 01:57:35.140]  No, no, no.
[01:57:35.140 --> 01:57:39.900]  Again, you're giving them a term that they will simply use against you by saying the
[01:57:39.900 --> 01:57:43.380]  officer's testimony is the evidence we need.
[01:57:43.380 --> 01:57:45.540]  You follow?
[01:57:45.540 --> 01:57:47.780]  The objection I stated is the proper one.
[01:57:47.780 --> 01:57:51.420]  The one you're doing is going to be used as a hammer to hit you with.
[01:57:51.420 --> 01:57:52.420]  Okay.
[01:57:52.420 --> 01:57:54.020]  I'll have to practice that.
[01:57:54.020 --> 01:57:55.020]  Okay.
[01:57:55.020 --> 01:57:56.020]  Please do.
[01:57:56.020 --> 01:57:57.020]  And good luck.
[01:57:57.020 --> 01:57:58.020]  Anything else?
[01:57:58.020 --> 01:57:59.020]  That's it.
[01:57:59.020 --> 01:58:00.020]  All right, Russ.
[01:58:00.020 --> 01:58:01.020]  Thanks for calling in, man.
[01:58:01.020 --> 01:58:02.020]  Thanks.
[01:58:02.020 --> 01:58:03.020]  All right, folks.
[01:58:03.020 --> 01:58:07.140]  I want to thank you all for calling in on the Monday night show.
[01:58:07.140 --> 01:58:08.980]  This has been your host, Eddie Craig.
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[01:58:17.500 --> 01:58:18.540]  Thank you all for listening.
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