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[00:18.760 --> 00:22.800]  Here with your Liberty Beat for March 13th, 2014.
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[01:08.760 --> 01:14.160]  Five immigration detainees in Washington state are now under medical observation as their
[01:14.160 --> 01:17.240]  hunger strike entered day five on Tuesday.
[01:17.240 --> 01:22.420]  Reuters reports this happened at the Northwest Detention Center where the detainees are protesting
[01:22.420 --> 01:27.280]  the large number of deportations carried out by the Obama administration.
[01:27.280 --> 01:31.000]  The protestors are seeking a halt on that activity, better food rations at the holding
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[01:37.240 --> 01:45.600]  Meanwhile, ICE officials may seek a court order to begin force feeding the protestors.
[01:45.600 --> 01:50.240]  An emergency request by the National Rifle Association to block enforcement of the Sunnyvale
[01:50.240 --> 01:56.000]  California ordinance ban on gun magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds has
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[02:07.680 --> 02:13.760]  It went into effect on March 6th.
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[03:57.160 --> 03:58.160]  Howdy, howdy.
[03:58.160 --> 04:05.240]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday, the 13th day
[04:05.240 --> 04:09.960]  of March 2014.
[04:09.960 --> 04:14.600]  And went to court today and had a rather interesting day.
[04:14.600 --> 04:20.880]  It's beginning to get to where I know what to expect.
[04:20.880 --> 04:28.400]  I certainly expect the courts to do whatever their goal want to do, whatever the lawyers
[04:28.400 --> 04:36.920]  want them to do with absolutely no regard for rule of law.
[04:36.920 --> 04:47.680]  Today I went in and it was over an eviction issue for someone else and filed a challenge
[04:47.680 --> 04:54.640]  subject matter jurisdiction, I'm beginning to find that we have for a long time been
[04:54.640 --> 05:01.320]  advocating the first thing you do in court is you challenge agency standing in capacity
[05:01.320 --> 05:04.800]  of the other party.
[05:04.800 --> 05:16.920]  And this goes to the legal maxim of never stipulate to anything.
[05:16.920 --> 05:24.240]  And in that regard, especially if you're the defendant, the opposing party comes to the
[05:24.240 --> 05:27.280]  table making a claim against you.
[05:27.280 --> 05:37.080]  And in the making of that claim, they make assertions of fact concerning themselves,
[05:37.080 --> 05:43.680]  their agency, their principle and their claim against.
[05:43.680 --> 05:45.520]  Hey, Randy, can I ask you something?
[05:45.520 --> 05:46.520]  Yes.
[05:46.520 --> 05:52.240]  Are you playing Twilight music on perp and effects or is that what is going on over there?
[05:52.240 --> 05:57.440]  I think there was something outside going by making an odd noise.
[05:57.440 --> 05:59.840]  There's like a whistling going on.
[05:59.840 --> 06:02.320]  It sounds like that was there.
[06:02.320 --> 06:04.320]  There was something outside.
[06:04.320 --> 06:05.320]  The car went by.
[06:05.320 --> 06:09.600]  It was making no, there's something going on right now.
[06:09.600 --> 06:16.880]  I hear something that sounds like a little echo.
[06:16.880 --> 06:22.480]  Now, I can kind of hear it in my head.
[06:22.480 --> 06:24.760]  There's like a whistling going on.
[06:24.760 --> 06:29.400]  Like it sounds like almost like the theme, like a theme from a Twilight Zone or something.
[06:29.400 --> 06:31.280]  What is I have no idea.
[06:31.280 --> 06:33.240]  It's not coming from mine.
[06:33.240 --> 06:35.480]  It's coming from your Skype, Randy.
[06:35.480 --> 06:36.880]  I have no idea then.
[06:36.880 --> 06:39.000]  I don't know what to do other than to shut my Skype off.
[06:39.000 --> 06:40.000]  Okay.
[06:40.000 --> 06:41.000]  All right.
[06:41.000 --> 06:42.000]  Look, we're going to cut to break.
[06:42.000 --> 06:43.000]  Okay.
[06:43.000 --> 07:12.000]  Randy on the phone, we'll be right back, listeners.
[07:44.000 --> 07:45.000]  I've got to believe my heart.
[07:45.000 --> 07:46.000]  Hell, I can't believe the radio.
[07:46.000 --> 07:47.000]  Whoa.
[07:47.000 --> 07:48.000]  I've got to believe my heart.
[07:48.000 --> 07:49.000]  And my heart said whoa.
[07:49.000 --> 07:50.000]  Wait a minute.
[07:50.000 --> 07:51.000]  Hold on.
[07:51.000 --> 07:52.000]  You know I'm out here in this wilderness alone.
[07:52.000 --> 07:53.000]  Troubles you bring to me make me feel like stone.
[07:53.000 --> 08:14.000]  Just because you can't find the sleep in this reality.
[08:14.000 --> 08:24.000]  Reality.
[08:24.000 --> 08:33.000]  Reality.
[08:33.000 --> 08:39.680]  Okay.
[08:39.680 --> 08:40.680]  We're back.
[08:40.680 --> 08:41.680]  I apologize for that.
[08:41.680 --> 08:44.040]  We had a little background noise here.
[08:44.040 --> 08:50.640]  We couldn't figure out what it was and I think it must have been my mother-in-law coming
[08:50.640 --> 08:54.480]  back from the grave haunting me.
[08:54.480 --> 08:56.240]  She promised to do that.
[08:56.240 --> 09:05.680]  Anyway, we were talking about how the courts absolutely just totally ignore law.
[09:05.680 --> 09:14.400]  I went to a JP a few weeks ago and handed the justice of the peace a challenge to subject
[09:14.400 --> 09:17.080]  matter jurisdiction.
[09:17.080 --> 09:25.360]  Now this particular justice of the peace, he's the justice in Garland, Texas, absolutely
[09:25.360 --> 09:31.880]  refused to so much as read the pleading.
[09:31.880 --> 09:33.240]  And you'd think, you know, that's crazy.
[09:33.240 --> 09:36.880]  Surely a judge, surely a judge wouldn't refuse to read the pleadings.
[09:36.880 --> 09:44.800]  Well, I've had a number of judges simply refuse to read pleadings.
[09:44.800 --> 09:49.240]  Now that goes to outlawry and you know, we say, well, the judge did this and this was
[09:49.240 --> 09:50.920]  wrong and that was wrong.
[09:50.920 --> 09:55.920]  But what we haven't done is our job.
[09:55.920 --> 10:03.320]  We go to court and we seem to expect the court to do what it should do.
[10:03.320 --> 10:09.280]  And then when it doesn't do what we think it should do, we get all upset and angry and
[10:09.280 --> 10:13.920]  frustrated and say, why didn't the court do what it should do?
[10:13.920 --> 10:19.480]  We don't go back and do our jobs as the masters.
[10:19.480 --> 10:22.760]  The judge is the public servant.
[10:22.760 --> 10:32.800]  We are the masters and it's our job to ensure that the judge performs his duty the way he
[10:32.800 --> 10:35.880]  agreed to do when he scored his oath of office.
[10:35.880 --> 10:40.560]  But we don't do anything about it when they don't.
[10:40.560 --> 10:44.800]  And we haven't done anything about it when they don't.
[10:44.800 --> 10:50.400]  So long that they have gotten so incredibly arrogant.
[10:50.400 --> 10:52.840]  It's almost unbelievable.
[10:52.840 --> 11:01.520]  This particular judge, once you file a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction, subject matter
[11:01.520 --> 11:10.480]  jurisdiction of the court is lost because the judge presumes jurisdiction.
[11:10.480 --> 11:17.280]  And when you deny that presumption, now it places the duty on the court to prove that
[11:17.280 --> 11:23.720]  it has jurisdiction and it will generally do that and ask for proof from the other party.
[11:23.720 --> 11:31.920]  And in this case, we claim that the other party lacked standing to invoke the subject
[11:31.920 --> 11:34.960]  matter jurisdiction of the court.
[11:34.960 --> 11:41.560]  This is really the best way to challenge subject matter jurisdiction or to bring the other
[11:41.560 --> 11:45.200]  party to the point to prove agency.
[11:45.200 --> 11:52.080]  In these foreclosure issues for the most part, we claim that the party bringing the action
[11:52.080 --> 11:56.120]  of foreclosure lacks authority to bring that action.
[11:56.120 --> 12:03.680]  So we go to the court and challenge the agency of the agent to represent the principal.
[12:03.680 --> 12:12.040]  Well, then the judge gets to hear evidence as to the agency of the agent to represent
[12:12.040 --> 12:22.240]  the principal and then render rulings on the presentations of the agent and the objections
[12:22.240 --> 12:26.840]  or counter presentments of the defendant.
[12:26.840 --> 12:33.760]  Well, the problem is that judges are corrupt.
[12:33.760 --> 12:38.640]  The judges just do whatever they want to and whoever contributes most to their reelection
[12:38.640 --> 12:42.880]  campaign, that's who they rule for, especially this guy.
[12:42.880 --> 12:49.200]  He's already a lawyer and I suspect he was contributing to judge's election campaigns
[12:49.200 --> 12:51.760]  before he became a judge.
[12:51.760 --> 12:57.600]  That's when he realized that he could make more money sitting in that office than he
[12:57.600 --> 13:00.880]  could adjudicate in cases.
[13:00.880 --> 13:09.520]  Now that's not to say that this judge is taking bribes to rule in these lawyers' favors.
[13:09.520 --> 13:17.360]  I would never say that this judge is taking bribes to rule in these lawyers' behaviors.
[13:17.360 --> 13:21.240]  Now I know it sounds like I'm saying these judges are taking bribes to rule in their
[13:21.240 --> 13:24.240]  favors, but I would never say these judges are taking bribes.
[13:24.240 --> 13:26.760]  I guess I've made my point.
[13:26.760 --> 13:39.200]  In any case, rather than invoke the judge's jurisdiction and ask him to render a ruling,
[13:39.200 --> 13:43.580]  you go in with a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction and now you're not asking the
[13:43.580 --> 13:47.920]  other party to prove up to agency standing in capacity.
[13:47.920 --> 13:55.600]  You're asking the judge to prove up jurisdiction with the understanding that the only time
[13:55.600 --> 14:01.880]  you can sue a judge is when he acts without subject matter jurisdiction.
[14:01.880 --> 14:08.440]  So this kind of turns the table on the judge.
[14:08.440 --> 14:15.240]  Now the judge is himself put in the path of potential civil litigation.
[14:15.240 --> 14:21.880]  Well, you know, they're used to people coming in and saying, oh, I got this right and I
[14:21.880 --> 14:22.880]  got that right.
[14:22.880 --> 14:27.320]  And they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't care, we're going to do what we want to anyway.
[14:27.320 --> 14:34.520]  And then the people go away dejected, frustrated and feel betrayed.
[14:34.520 --> 14:37.960]  But there's no blowback to the judge.
[14:37.960 --> 14:45.640]  So I went into a hearing today in a JP's court where I filed a challenge to subject matter
[14:45.640 --> 14:53.120]  jurisdiction and the judge didn't show up today, so I had some kind of time.
[15:15.640 --> 15:40.440]  I read his book and it says, I won't pay for the war with my body, ain't gonna pay for
[15:40.440 --> 15:57.240]  the war with my body, ain't gonna pay for the boys with my body, ain't gonna pay for
[15:57.240 --> 16:10.360]  the kids with my body, the whole agenda smells funny, I want to fight in a war of my own,
[16:10.360 --> 16:24.680]  that one would be less accidental, I want to pay for a war of my own, they live in glass
[16:24.680 --> 16:34.240]  houses so I can once again prove wrong, I want to fight in a war I can win, I can never
[16:34.240 --> 16:41.760]  win the one they laid out me in, that one I lose long before it begins, I want to pay
[16:41.760 --> 16:57.960]  for a war I can win when I'm fighting in my own war, it's such a peaceful feeling, when
[16:57.960 --> 17:00.800]  I'm paying for my own war.
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[19:49.960 --> 19:50.960]  We are back.
[19:50.960 --> 19:57.400]  I'm Debra Stevens, Rule Law Radio, and I apologize for the technical difficulties.
[19:57.400 --> 20:02.600]  We've kind of doubled up my connection now, so I should be able to overcome it.
[20:02.600 --> 20:08.560]  But we were talking about the judges not doing what they're supposed to.
[20:08.560 --> 20:14.160]  And we complained about it, but we really don't do anything about it.
[20:14.160 --> 20:20.200]  And I have found over time, and we talk about this on the air all the time, but it really
[20:20.200 --> 20:29.960]  does make a difference when a litigant stands up and demands that the judge do his job.
[20:29.960 --> 20:35.840]  And over time, in talking about these things and doing them, I've kind of worked out a
[20:35.840 --> 20:39.680]  way to think about it.
[20:39.680 --> 20:51.000]  And the most important thing to keep in mind when you go to a trial court, Frederick Gray's
[20:51.000 --> 20:58.680]  very rightly said, the only purpose of the trial court is to set the record for appeal.
[20:58.680 --> 21:00.360]  We should all keep that in mind.
[21:00.360 --> 21:07.760]  We go to a trial court, and the trial court rules against us, and we feel terribly mistreated
[21:07.760 --> 21:17.080]  and abused and frustrated and angry, and we lose.
[21:17.080 --> 21:26.200]  It takes away our confidence in the courts, and we don't do anything about it.
[21:26.200 --> 21:33.480]  So I've tried to kind of develop a way to think about what we're doing so that the natural
[21:33.480 --> 21:45.040]  response to the judge not following law is a calculated, inaccurate, and useful response.
[21:45.040 --> 21:48.640]  And I've kind of put it this way.
[21:48.640 --> 21:56.360]  Never ask a public official to do anything you actually want them to do.
[21:56.360 --> 22:01.600]  I go into the court, and I ask the court to do certain things.
[22:01.600 --> 22:06.000]  I recently had a judge say, well, Mr. Kelly, just what do you want me to do here?
[22:06.000 --> 22:09.840]  I said, I don't care what you do.
[22:09.840 --> 22:15.480]  You just do anything you want to, because when you're finished, I'll simply go to the
[22:15.480 --> 22:43.120]  next set.
[22:43.120 --> 23:12.240]  But when we go to the court, we ask the court to do what the court is required to do.
[23:12.240 --> 23:21.240]  But before you ask the court to do what the court is required to do, you make sure you
[23:21.240 --> 23:29.240]  know what to do in case the judge doesn't do what he's required to do.
[23:29.240 --> 23:37.880]  Keep in mind, he is the servant, you are the master, and a trial court judge has two duties.
[23:37.880 --> 23:43.840]  First, he must determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence, then apply the
[23:43.840 --> 23:47.440]  law to the facts as it comes to him in the case.
[23:47.440 --> 23:52.240]  If he does anything other than that, he exceeds his authority.
[23:52.240 --> 23:59.040]  And if he exceeds his authority, then he exerts or purports to exert an authority he does
[23:59.040 --> 24:02.120]  not expressly have.
[24:02.120 --> 24:06.960]  And if in doing so, he denies you in the form of pre-access to an enjoyment of right, well,
[24:06.960 --> 24:11.240]  that's a class A misdemeanor in the state of Texas.
[24:11.240 --> 24:15.840]  And there's a way to deal with that, and that doesn't include appealing.
[24:15.840 --> 24:23.360]  I once had a judge in Austin tell me, and he was the head criminal district judge for
[24:23.360 --> 24:24.360]  Austin.
[24:24.360 --> 24:29.680]  I had bushwhacked him in his courtroom, and he told me that, you know, if I didn't get
[24:29.680 --> 24:32.960]  a positive response, I should go appeal.
[24:32.960 --> 24:37.000]  And I said, oh, judge, don't ask me to appeal.
[24:37.000 --> 24:40.360]  You go before a corrupt court, and they render it a bogus decision.
[24:40.360 --> 24:42.960]  Everybody says, oh, that's okay.
[24:42.960 --> 24:46.080]  You can just appeal before a whole town of corrupt judges.
[24:46.080 --> 24:48.080]  They don't really screw you, royal.
[24:48.080 --> 24:51.480]  I had a better idea.
[24:51.480 --> 24:54.640]  I'll appeal to the grand jury.
[24:54.640 --> 24:57.760]  And he said, well, Mr. Kelsey, you can appeal to the grand jury.
[24:57.760 --> 25:03.120]  And this was an issue where I had filed a criminal complaint with the sheriff, and the
[25:03.120 --> 25:05.520]  sheriff refused to act on the complaint.
[25:05.520 --> 25:08.040]  So I said, sure I can.
[25:08.040 --> 25:13.560]  I can appeal to the grand jury to indict the sheriff for felony-shielded prosecution violation
[25:13.560 --> 25:15.560]  3805 penal code.
[25:15.560 --> 25:21.680]  And the judge kind of sat back and looked at me with this look like, could I get away
[25:21.680 --> 25:26.080]  with it if I asked my bailiffs to shoot this guy?
[25:26.080 --> 25:32.440]  But when we start doing this, all of a sudden, everything changes.
[25:32.440 --> 25:36.360]  We had a woman in a family court, and I spoke about this.
[25:36.360 --> 25:43.640]  The judge was just all over her, had her arrested illegally.
[25:43.640 --> 25:48.560]  And the jailers threw her down the stairs, beat her up, took her to the hospital.
[25:48.560 --> 25:54.440]  We had all kinds of invasive procedures on her to the point that she filed sexual assault
[25:54.440 --> 25:58.840]  charges against him with the FBI.
[25:58.840 --> 26:02.360]  And they did all this because she resisted him.
[26:02.360 --> 26:05.000]  She actively adjudicated her rights.
[26:05.000 --> 26:12.360]  Even had a judge approach her on the street, a district judge, and tell her, it's people
[26:12.360 --> 26:20.760]  like you who wind up going to jail because she actively adjudicated her rights.
[26:20.760 --> 26:29.440]  Well, we went into the court, and we had helped her put together a motion to disqualify the
[26:29.440 --> 26:30.440]  judge.
[26:30.440 --> 26:37.960]  But instead of just complaining about the judge, we took what the judge actually did
[26:37.960 --> 26:42.880]  that we felt was wrong and demonstrated how it was wrong.
[26:42.880 --> 26:46.960]  Now, this is the kind of stuff they do all the time.
[26:46.960 --> 26:55.480]  The attorney general's lawyer filed a motion with the court to revoke this woman's supervision
[26:55.480 --> 26:57.120]  and issue a warrant.
[26:57.120 --> 27:04.280]  Well, in order to do that, 21A Code of Criminal Procedure requires her, I mean, the Texas
[27:04.280 --> 27:10.640]  Rules of Civil Procedure required her to give notice to the other side and give at least
[27:10.640 --> 27:15.280]  three days, set a hearing, hold a hearing that both parties there.
[27:15.280 --> 27:22.320]  Well, she filed a motion without a certificate of service attached.
[27:22.320 --> 27:27.160]  The judge received it and the same day issued a warrant.
[27:27.160 --> 27:34.360]  It was clear on the face of the document that the document was improperly filed.
[27:34.360 --> 27:41.560]  When the court set in the hearing to issue the warrant and looked out at the gallery
[27:41.560 --> 27:48.320]  and called this person to the hearing and the person wasn't in the room, the first
[27:48.320 --> 27:53.880]  place the court should have looked was for that certificate of service to make sure she
[27:53.880 --> 27:54.880]  was actually served.
[27:54.880 --> 28:00.920]  And then she should have sent the plaintiff out in the hall to call her name three times.
[28:00.920 --> 28:05.800]  And then they hold this hearing, ex parte, without her there, and the problem was there
[28:05.800 --> 28:08.760]  was no certificate of service.
[28:08.760 --> 28:11.920]  And in fact, the person had never been noticed.
[28:11.920 --> 28:17.120]  And had the judge looked at the reading, she would have seen that this is the same day
[28:17.120 --> 28:22.920]  it was filed and there wasn't the three-day notice period.
[28:22.920 --> 28:25.480]  That's all criminal.
[28:25.480 --> 28:30.760]  This demonstrates a criminal conspiracy between the judge and this attorney general lawyer
[28:30.760 --> 28:38.400]  under 1502, which we charged her, a criminal conspiracy to deny her inner rights, which
[28:38.400 --> 28:47.560]  under 39.03 Texas Penal Code is the first class A misdemeanor on the part of the judge.
[28:47.560 --> 28:52.880]  And then as much as this lawyer acted in concert collusion, he was equally culpable.
[28:52.880 --> 28:59.520]  And these acts were taken toward false imprisonment.
[28:59.520 --> 29:06.520]  And then, subject to the false imprisonment, she was beaten up by the judges, by the jailers,
[29:06.520 --> 29:13.400]  with an act of retaliation and obstruction, 36.06.
[29:13.400 --> 29:18.200]  For the purpose of tampering with a witness, 36.05.
[29:18.200 --> 29:22.840]  So we charged her, we end the motion to disqualify her.
[29:22.840 --> 29:26.480]  We charged the judge with all of these criminal acts.
[29:26.480 --> 29:31.800]  He was not a hamper, and actually, I kind of got that out of order.
[29:31.800 --> 29:34.800]  Well, I'll talk about that a little bit more on the other side.
[29:34.800 --> 29:38.920]  We're giving up a lot of callers, so I won't talk about this a whole lot more.
[29:38.920 --> 29:42.320]  And then we'll go to callers, callers who will get back on the other side.
[29:42.320 --> 29:48.080]  I'll just kind of finish this idea of let's start going back after these judges big time.
[29:48.080 --> 29:55.880]  This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, we have our radio, our call-in numbers, 512-646-1984.
[29:55.880 --> 29:58.880]  We'll be right back.
[29:58.880 --> 30:04.560]  Insulting someone with your middle finger is never polite, but in the U.S. at least
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[30:42.240 --> 30:46.920]  Flipping the bird, the New York hello, the one-finger salute, the middle finger gesture
[30:46.920 --> 30:52.440]  goes by many names, but it always conveys the essence of the F word with graphic clarity.
[30:52.440 --> 30:55.800]  The obscene gesture is illegal in many countries, but not here.
[30:55.800 --> 31:01.120]  In 2006, David Hackbart flipped off a Pittsburgh cop who promptly cited him for disorderly
[31:01.120 --> 31:02.120]  conduct.
[31:02.120 --> 31:08.320]  Hackbart countered with a free speech lawsuit and won, walking away with a cool $50,000.
[31:08.320 --> 31:11.840]  While flipping people off may technically be legal, it certainly won't win you any
[31:11.840 --> 31:12.840]  friends.
[31:12.840 --> 31:16.640]  And if you flip off the cops, be warned, they might take a few extra bites of their donut
[31:16.640 --> 31:19.080]  before responding to your next emergency call.
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[33:08.240 --> 33:21.920]  Yeah, Mr. Officer, you're takin' the law in the head.
[33:21.920 --> 33:24.920]  Won't you follow the law of the land?
[33:24.920 --> 33:27.920]  I don't understand.
[33:27.920 --> 33:30.920]  Your job is to protect our service.
[33:30.920 --> 33:33.920]  Not beat our abuse.
[33:33.920 --> 33:34.920]  Officer!
[33:34.920 --> 33:47.800]  When You're Gonna Stop Abuse Your Power When You're Gonna Stop Abuse Your Power
[33:47.800 --> 33:57.960]  When You're Gonna Stop Abuse Your Power When You're Gonna Stop Abuse Your Power
[33:57.960 --> 34:02.740]  Please Mr. Maxwell, each Officer, Not to abuse their power.
[34:02.740 --> 34:08.740]  Send a request to the leader, the captain of all officers
[34:08.740 --> 34:13.740]  Tell them to uphold the law, or police don't abuse their power
[34:13.740 --> 34:19.740]  They beat and they beat and they cheat and they cheat and they lie every hour
[34:19.740 --> 34:24.740]  So Mr. Officer, please stop abusing your power
[34:24.740 --> 34:30.740]  You hold me over and tell me to be silent, sir
[34:30.740 --> 34:36.740]  I need to speak to my lawyer, Mr. Officer
[34:36.740 --> 34:41.740]  I feel like you're the judge, finding me guilty, sir
[34:41.740 --> 34:47.740]  So when you're gonna stop abuse your power
[34:47.740 --> 34:52.740]  When you're gonna stop abuse your power
[34:52.740 --> 34:58.740]  When you're gonna stop abuse your power
[34:58.740 --> 35:04.740]  When you're gonna stop abusing your power
[35:04.740 --> 35:07.740]  So Mr. Officer, stop abusing his power
[35:07.740 --> 35:09.740]  Mr. Parker, I'm a healthy officer
[35:09.740 --> 35:12.740]  So take to the understand they should uphold the law
[35:12.740 --> 35:14.740]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton.
[35:14.740 --> 35:16.740]  That was Stephen's Rule of Law Radio.
[35:16.740 --> 35:22.740]  And we're talking about going back after these guys when they don't do what they're required to do.
[35:22.740 --> 35:30.740]  I went into a JP court today and filed with the JP court a set of criminal complaints.
[35:30.740 --> 35:38.740]  And the complaints went to an action where a previous JP in another jurisdiction
[35:38.740 --> 35:43.740]  Refused to read a challenged subject matter jurisdiction.
[35:43.740 --> 35:50.740]  And I ultimately charged the judge with first degree felony aggravated assault.
[35:50.740 --> 35:56.740]  Sometimes they don't really think about the potential ramifications of their behavior.
[35:56.740 --> 36:02.740]  In this case, a woman had been foreclosed on in 2008.
[36:02.740 --> 36:11.740]  And the federal home loan mortgage corporation under Texas law had two years
[36:11.740 --> 36:17.740]  To evict the person from the property to file a forceful detainer action.
[36:17.740 --> 36:24.740]  And the person, the company never did.
[36:24.740 --> 36:32.740]  So they come back four years later and foreclose on the same deed of trust again.
[36:32.740 --> 36:34.740]  Well, that deed of trust had been extinguished.
[36:34.740 --> 36:36.740]  They figured out they screwed up.
[36:36.740 --> 36:41.740]  And they came back to cover up the fact that they exceeded statute of limitations
[36:41.740 --> 36:44.740]  And tried to perpetrate another foreclosure.
[36:44.740 --> 36:47.740]  Well, we challenge subject matter jurisdiction of the court
[36:47.740 --> 36:53.740]  Claiming that the plaintiff lacks standing to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction.
[36:53.740 --> 36:57.740]  But the judge in his arrogance refused to even read it.
[36:57.740 --> 37:04.740]  And then he issued an order directing the sheriff to go take this woman who had been in this house
[37:04.740 --> 37:10.740]  Which is 1984 and throw her out in the street.
[37:10.740 --> 37:13.740]  That's exactly what they did.
[37:13.740 --> 37:18.740]  And they threw her out in the street while prominently displaying deadly weapons.
[37:18.740 --> 37:20.740]  Her son was there.
[37:20.740 --> 37:28.740]  But he could not resist them as they were prominently displaying loaded pistols.
[37:28.740 --> 37:32.740]  Now the sheriff did not commit aggravated assault.
[37:32.740 --> 37:35.740]  The judge committed aggravated assault.
[37:35.740 --> 37:41.740]  The sheriff's deputies acted in good faith reliance on competent authority.
[37:41.740 --> 37:44.740]  It was the sheriff who sent them out there.
[37:44.740 --> 37:47.740]  He committed aggravated assault.
[37:47.740 --> 37:51.740]  I mean, sorry, it was the justice of the peace who committed aggravated assault
[37:51.740 --> 37:56.740]  With the sheriff's deputies as the deadly weapon.
[37:56.740 --> 38:03.740]  Now, instead of appealing the judge's ruling with the county court
[38:03.740 --> 38:07.740]  We'll simply appeal to a grand jury for the indictment of the judge.
[38:07.740 --> 38:15.740]  The presentment I gave to this justice of the peace was two-thirds of a ream of paper.
[38:15.740 --> 38:28.740]  There were about 20, 25 felony and misdemeanor criminal accusations against parties acting in the case.
[38:28.740 --> 38:35.740]  We had a party file an appointment of substitute trustee on a deed of trust that was extinguished.
[38:35.740 --> 38:41.740]  They were securing and executing a document by deception.
[38:41.740 --> 38:44.740]  In order to secure and execute the document by deception
[38:44.740 --> 38:50.740]  They prepared a document, placed on it statements of material facts they knew were untrue
[38:50.740 --> 38:56.740]  And then went before a notary public and swore under oath to those material facts they knew to be untrue.
[38:56.740 --> 38:58.740]  That's aggravated perjury.
[38:58.740 --> 39:05.740]  They didn't file the document with the clerk of the court containing false statements that they knew were false
[39:05.740 --> 39:08.740]  That intended the clerk take as true.
[39:08.740 --> 39:11.740]  That's felony tampering with the government document.
[39:11.740 --> 39:17.740]  So we got 3246 penal code that way.
[39:17.740 --> 39:22.740]  Yeah, 3246, securing and executing by deception.
[39:22.740 --> 39:24.740]  3703, aggravated perjury.
[39:24.740 --> 39:28.740]  3711, tampering with the government document.
[39:28.740 --> 39:33.740]  1502, conspiracy to commit.
[39:33.740 --> 39:40.740]  3103 theft for each party involved.
[39:40.740 --> 39:47.740]  This is the person who actually signed the assignment of appointment of substitute trustee.
[39:47.740 --> 39:50.740]  Then we had an assignment of the deed of trust.
[39:50.740 --> 39:55.740]  Same accusation, same complaints to that party.
[39:55.740 --> 39:58.740]  And then we had a substitute trustee's deed.
[39:58.740 --> 40:01.740]  Same accusation, same complaints.
[40:01.740 --> 40:09.740]  And then we name all of the parties as culpable for all of the acts of all of the other parties.
[40:09.740 --> 40:16.740]  And then we name the judge as culpable along with all of these parties for acting in concert collusion
[40:16.740 --> 40:21.740]  with all of these other parties in the theft of this person's property.
[40:21.740 --> 40:30.740]  And we charged the judge with official oppression and first degree felony aggravated assault.
[40:30.740 --> 40:36.740]  And then when we're done with that, we go back and sue the judge for three times the value of the property.
[40:36.740 --> 40:39.740]  So you want to play hardball, Judge?
[40:39.740 --> 40:42.740]  We will introduce you to the deep end of the pool.
[40:42.740 --> 40:47.740]  This is how we're going to get judges to start following law.
[40:47.740 --> 40:48.740]  Okay.
[40:48.740 --> 40:49.740]  That's my story.
[40:49.740 --> 40:50.740]  I'm sticking to it.
[40:50.740 --> 40:53.740]  I apologize for all the technical difficulties and delays.
[40:53.740 --> 40:56.740]  We are going to go to Paul.
[40:56.740 --> 41:00.740]  Our first caller is Susan in Florida.
[41:00.740 --> 41:01.740]  Hello, Susan.
[41:01.740 --> 41:03.740]  What are you up for tonight?
[41:03.740 --> 41:04.740]  Hi, Randy.
[41:04.740 --> 41:05.740]  I was calling.
[41:05.740 --> 41:16.740]  I didn't catch the beginning part of the show, but I was calling to really kind of find out the steps to take
[41:16.740 --> 41:23.740]  if you were to file a complaint in front of the grand jury of actually how to get in front of a grand jury.
[41:23.740 --> 41:24.740]  Okay.
[41:24.740 --> 41:25.740]  You are in Florida.
[41:25.740 --> 41:27.740]  Each state is somewhat different.
[41:27.740 --> 41:32.740]  But I think Florida has a standing grand jury similar to Texas.
[41:32.740 --> 41:41.740]  Okay, this takes a different way of thinking than we are accustomed to.
[41:41.740 --> 41:51.740]  Public officials, they may only do what they are specifically authorized to do.
[41:51.740 --> 41:56.740]  You, on the other hand, you can do anything you want to.
[41:56.740 --> 42:08.740]  You can do anything you want to so long as the law does not specifically forbid you to do a certain thing.
[42:08.740 --> 42:14.740]  It's an important concept to keep in mind when you read the code.
[42:14.740 --> 42:20.740]  What does the code specifically authorize this other party to do?
[42:20.740 --> 42:27.740]  When this public official exerts or purports to exert an authority,
[42:27.740 --> 42:35.740]  where is the specific statutory authorization to take that action?
[42:35.740 --> 42:40.740]  When the public official says you can't do this or you can't do this,
[42:40.740 --> 42:48.740]  where is the specific prohibition against you doing that thing?
[42:48.740 --> 42:51.740]  And when it comes to grand juries,
[42:51.740 --> 43:00.740]  every state will have a statute that stipulates the duties of the grand jury.
[43:00.740 --> 43:05.740]  The most common form is what we find in the Fed.
[43:05.740 --> 43:11.740]  And in California and New Mexico and over most of the states have looked at,
[43:11.740 --> 43:19.740]  as it shall be the duty of the grand jury to examine into all criminal accusations
[43:19.740 --> 43:25.740]  that come to their knowledge by whatever means.
[43:25.740 --> 43:35.740]  And that makes it clear that there is no restriction in how you give notice to a grand jury that a crime has been committed.
[43:35.740 --> 43:40.740]  Now, you can't present to a grand jury, we'll touch on that when we come back.
[43:40.740 --> 43:46.740]  You can only present to a grand jury if they request that you do so.
[43:46.740 --> 43:49.740]  And this is what the prosecutors try to use to keep us away from.
[43:49.740 --> 43:51.740]  We'll explain that when we come back.
[43:51.740 --> 43:57.740]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rudy Larradio, our call-in number, 512-646-1984.
[43:57.740 --> 43:59.740]  We'll be right back.
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[46:21.740 --> 46:41.740]  Okay, we are back.
[46:41.740 --> 46:44.740]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[46:44.740 --> 46:52.740]  And we're talking to Susan in Florida about a presentment.
[46:52.740 --> 47:01.740]  If you try to file a complaint with the federal grand jury, the federal prosecutor will jump up and down and wave his arms and say,
[47:01.740 --> 47:06.740]  only the prosecuting attorney can present to the grand jury.
[47:06.740 --> 47:10.740]  Not true.
[47:10.740 --> 47:14.740]  That's fought by non-disclosure.
[47:14.740 --> 47:23.740]  Only the prosecuting attorney can present to a grand jury as a matter of right.
[47:23.740 --> 47:32.740]  It's in the law that the prosecuting attorney is the exclusive prosecutor for the state.
[47:32.740 --> 47:39.740]  And the prosecuting attorney is authorized to present criminal accusations to the grand jury.
[47:39.740 --> 47:51.740]  But there is nothing preventing anyone else from presenting a criminal complaint to the grand jury if the grand jury requests it.
[47:51.740 --> 48:02.740]  So if you have a criminal complaint against a prosecuting attorney, it would be inappropriate to ask the prosecuting attorney to present himself.
[48:02.740 --> 48:09.740]  So you go down and ask the grand jury to allow you to present the criminal accusation.
[48:09.740 --> 48:13.740]  This is exactly what I did in Johnson County.
[48:13.740 --> 48:16.740]  And they asked me to come in and present.
[48:16.740 --> 48:18.740]  So I presented the grand jury myself.
[48:18.740 --> 48:21.740]  I presented the district attorney to the grand jury myself.
[48:21.740 --> 48:24.740]  This generally doesn't happen.
[48:24.740 --> 48:27.740]  And for the most part, you don't need to.
[48:27.740 --> 48:33.740]  It's generally enough that you start making serious grand jury noises.
[48:33.740 --> 48:42.740]  And what we do here goes to the same adage of never ask a public official to do anything you actually want them to do.
[48:42.740 --> 48:51.740]  When you go to the prosecuting attorney and give him a criminal complaint against a public official request, he gives it to the grand jury if he doesn't.
[48:51.740 --> 49:02.740]  Then you accuse the district attorney of shielding the person from prosecution and obstruction of justice.
[49:02.740 --> 49:06.740]  And then you go to the grand jury yourself.
[49:06.740 --> 49:09.740]  I generally follow this procedure.
[49:09.740 --> 49:14.740]  I spoke earlier about filing a complaint with the justice of the peace.
[49:14.740 --> 49:19.740]  That's actually in the code and one of the steps.
[49:19.740 --> 49:27.740]  Justices of the peace were put in place, I'm sorry, magistrates.
[49:27.740 --> 49:29.740]  Justices of the peace are magistrates.
[49:29.740 --> 49:34.740]  In all states, all judges are magistrates.
[49:34.740 --> 49:37.740]  All mayors are magistrates.
[49:37.740 --> 49:44.740]  They can hear criminal accusations and make a determination of probable cause.
[49:44.740 --> 50:00.740]  Whenever a police officer has reason to believe a crime has been committed, he acts in his personal capacity as a citizen of the state and makes a criminal accusation before some magistrate.
[50:00.740 --> 50:12.740]  There is nothing in law that gives a police officer a special capacity to present criminal complaints to magistrates.
[50:12.740 --> 50:19.740]  He does that in his personal capacity, just like you would.
[50:19.740 --> 50:26.740]  So the first place I take it is to some magistrate and get the magistrate to refuse to act on the complaint.
[50:26.740 --> 50:30.740]  And they almost always will.
[50:30.740 --> 50:36.740]  So you go to the magistrate to have this complaint, why do you really need to take that to the police department?
[50:36.740 --> 50:39.740]  I tell them I don't need to do any such thing.
[50:39.740 --> 50:41.740]  I'm bringing it to you.
[50:41.740 --> 50:42.740]  And they refuse to hear it.
[50:42.740 --> 50:43.740]  They'll always do that.
[50:43.740 --> 50:44.740]  They're wonderful.
[50:44.740 --> 50:47.740]  That's what I want them to do.
[50:47.740 --> 51:01.740]  Never ask him to do something he actually wanted to do, because when he refuses to act, then I charge him with official oppression shielded from prosecution and take that to the district attorney.
[51:01.740 --> 51:07.740]  In Texas, the district attorney always gets complaints against public officials.
[51:07.740 --> 51:17.740]  And in Texas, we have a special statute that tells the district attorney, when he's made known in any manner that a public official has violated the law relating to his office,
[51:17.740 --> 51:26.740]  he shall reduce the complaint to an information and submit it to the grand jury, no discretion.
[51:26.740 --> 51:31.740]  Texas is the only state I know of that has that, but you don't need it.
[51:31.740 --> 51:34.740]  You file a complaint with the district attorney.
[51:34.740 --> 51:53.740]  If the district attorney does not present the public official to the grand jury, they do charge the district attorney with shielding from prosecution or official oppression or if they don't want the statute, he is in Florida.
[51:53.740 --> 51:59.740]  You go to the grand jury with complaints against the district attorney.
[51:59.740 --> 52:08.740]  Now, how is the district attorney going to interfere with you when the complaints are against him?
[52:08.740 --> 52:12.740]  In the end, it's all political.
[52:12.740 --> 52:19.740]  You will never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[52:19.740 --> 52:23.740]  To think so is naive.
[52:23.740 --> 52:32.740]  Now, this, what I'm about to say may not be true, but it would behoove you to treat it as if it is true.
[52:32.740 --> 52:41.740]  You should act as if the judge will rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[52:41.740 --> 52:51.740]  You should treat the judges as if they are all totally and completely corrupt.
[52:51.740 --> 52:55.740]  Never, never trust them.
[52:55.740 --> 53:02.740]  Always know what you're going to do next when they refuse to perform their duty.
[53:02.740 --> 53:09.740]  And by that, you go in and ask them to do something, but you don't care if they do it or not.
[53:09.740 --> 53:17.740]  You're just setting up the next step, and it doesn't take them long to figure that out.
[53:17.740 --> 53:23.740]  When they know that you don't care what they do, when they don't do what you want them to,
[53:23.740 --> 53:30.740]  then you're just looking for the opportunity to legally land on them like a ton of bricks.
[53:30.740 --> 53:35.740]  That changes their attitude big time.
[53:35.740 --> 53:46.740]  When we filed in this family law case, a challenge to the judge is subject matter jurisdiction.
[53:46.740 --> 53:51.740]  And accused the judge of a whole stack of criminal accusations.
[53:51.740 --> 53:56.740]  His attitude changed dramatically.
[53:56.740 --> 54:02.740]  They went out to, they had a recess so he could read over the pleading.
[54:02.740 --> 54:08.740]  When he came back, all of a sudden he was all over the lawyer on the other side.
[54:08.740 --> 54:15.740]  It was clear he felt like he had been helping this other lawyer, and now this other lawyer got him in trouble.
[54:15.740 --> 54:19.740]  Because these guys were filing criminal charges against him.
[54:19.740 --> 54:24.740]  I have found that when you make criminal accusations against judges,
[54:24.740 --> 54:32.740]  they take those criminal accusations very seriously.
[54:32.740 --> 54:36.740]  It's not because they're afraid of you.
[54:36.740 --> 54:38.740]  They are not going to be afraid of you.
[54:38.740 --> 54:47.740]  What they're afraid of is they know that the system is corrupt, it's horribly corrupt.
[54:47.740 --> 54:52.740]  That they're swimming around in a pool full of sharks.
[54:52.740 --> 55:00.740]  And in order to protect themselves from one another, they have put in these checks and balances.
[55:00.740 --> 55:05.740]  They didn't put them in for you, they put them in for themselves.
[55:05.740 --> 55:08.740]  But you get to use them anyway.
[55:08.740 --> 55:12.740]  And when you start filing criminal charges against the judge,
[55:12.740 --> 55:20.740]  the judge is afraid that his next running opponent in his next election
[55:20.740 --> 55:26.740]  is going to drag out these criminal complaints and wave them in front of the public.
[55:26.740 --> 55:35.740]  And when he does, this judge is going to say, oh, those are all frivolous and unfounded complaints.
[55:35.740 --> 55:38.740]  But he knows what we know.
[55:38.740 --> 55:42.740]  Perception is everything.
[55:42.740 --> 55:48.740]  In the political arena, the truth does not mean squat.
[55:48.740 --> 55:55.740]  Now that's not to say you should file a frivolous or unfounded plea to complain.
[55:55.740 --> 56:00.740]  Never, ever file an unfounded complaint.
[56:00.740 --> 56:10.740]  And I suggest that you never file a complaint for what they do to you.
[56:10.740 --> 56:21.740]  Only file complaints for specific failures to follow particular law.
[56:21.740 --> 56:23.740]  That drives them crazy.
[56:23.740 --> 56:29.740]  I once had a bailiff shove me out the door, knocked me down, and broke my elbow.
[56:29.740 --> 56:33.740]  I did not file against him.
[56:33.740 --> 56:35.740]  It would have broke a rule.
[56:35.740 --> 56:40.740]  That made it personal, and I never do anything personal.
[56:40.740 --> 56:44.740]  I am the master.
[56:44.740 --> 56:46.740]  They are my servants.
[56:46.740 --> 56:53.740]  I only take action to ensure that my servants abide by my law.
[56:53.740 --> 57:01.740]  I just had someone go to the federal court on a bankruptcy issue in Fort Worth.
[57:01.740 --> 57:08.740]  And on his way out of the court, the federal marshals asked him if he knew Randall Kelvin
[57:08.740 --> 57:14.740]  and if I had ever prepared any documentation for him.
[57:14.740 --> 57:16.740]  They know me real well.
[57:16.740 --> 57:18.740]  They don't like me.
[57:18.740 --> 57:27.740]  But they have never, ever talked to me because I only take them on point of law.
[57:27.740 --> 57:29.740]  And they know.
[57:29.740 --> 57:34.740]  They mess with me just a little bit, and I'll be taking them on point of law.
[57:34.740 --> 57:38.740]  Their problem is is they don't know how to follow it.
[57:38.740 --> 57:41.740]  They don't even know what it is.
[57:41.740 --> 57:50.740]  When you start reading it, read it carefully, you will never, ever have to file a complaint
[57:50.740 --> 57:58.740]  that's frivolous because they will give you more opportunity to hammer them big time
[57:58.740 --> 58:01.740]  than you can ever keep up with.
[58:01.740 --> 58:06.740]  These scoundrels are very accommodating in this way.
[58:06.740 --> 58:12.740]  Okay, we're about to go to our coffee hour break, and I'll pick this up when we come back, Susan.
[58:12.740 --> 58:14.740]  And I'm glad you asked that question.
[58:14.740 --> 58:16.740]  It kind of goes to my failure issue.
[58:16.740 --> 58:21.740]  When we come back, I'll be more specific of how to do this.
[58:21.740 --> 58:22.740]  Okay, great.
[58:22.740 --> 58:26.740]  But be warned, there is one drawback.
[58:26.740 --> 58:33.740]  Once you start doing this, you will find that it's way, way too much fun.
[58:33.740 --> 58:37.740]  This is Randy Kelly, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[58:37.740 --> 58:41.740]  I'll call in number 512-646-1984.
[58:41.740 --> 58:43.740]  Charlie, Gary, I see you there.
[58:43.740 --> 58:45.740]  We'll pick you up when we come back.
[58:45.740 --> 58:47.740]  Thank you all for listening.
[58:47.740 --> 58:49.740]  We'll be right back.
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[01:00:00.740 --> 01:00:04.740]  A federal lawsuit has just been filed by the Libertarian Party of Ohio,
[01:00:04.740 --> 01:00:07.740]  challenging a new effort to deny Libertarians a vote for governor.
[01:00:07.740 --> 01:00:12.740]  I'm Ben Swan with your Truth in Media moment, brought to you in part by benswan.com.
[01:00:12.740 --> 01:00:16.740]  This latest attempt comes from the Ohio Secretary of State, John Huston,
[01:00:16.740 --> 01:00:20.740]  on Friday as he decided to kick Libertarian Party candidate for governor,
[01:00:20.740 --> 01:00:23.740]  Charlie Earle, off the primary ballot.
[01:00:23.740 --> 01:00:28.740]  Attorney General candidate Steve Linneberry, also a Libertarian, was kicked off the ballot as well.
[01:00:28.740 --> 01:00:32.740]  The Secretary of State, Houston, a Republican, said one independent contractor
[01:00:32.740 --> 01:00:37.740]  who collected signatures to get Earle on the ballot did not disclose the name of the entity
[01:00:37.740 --> 01:00:40.740]  that had hired him as required by Ohio law.
[01:00:40.740 --> 01:00:44.740]  Well, that contractor testified in Friday's hearing that he has collected signatures
[01:00:44.740 --> 01:00:48.740]  for ballot initiatives in Ohio for 12 years.
[01:00:48.740 --> 01:00:51.740]  And during that time has never once disclosed his employer,
[01:00:51.740 --> 01:00:56.740]  and yet this is the first time any petition has ever been rejected.
[01:00:56.740 --> 01:01:01.740]  So why is the Republican Party working so hard to keep the Libertarian Party off the ballot in Ohio?
[01:01:01.740 --> 01:01:05.740]  I'll tell you after this.
[01:01:05.740 --> 01:01:08.740]  The destruction of constitutional liberties and endless foreign wars,
[01:01:08.740 --> 01:01:12.740]  the voice of the people silenced while lawmakers simply enrich themselves
[01:01:12.740 --> 01:01:14.740]  and the political class.
[01:01:14.740 --> 01:01:15.740]  I'm Ben Swan.
[01:01:15.740 --> 01:01:16.740]  Is it about left versus right?
[01:01:16.740 --> 01:01:19.740]  No, the real fight is liberty versus tyranny.
[01:01:19.740 --> 01:01:22.740]  At benswan.com, we are breaking the left-right paradigm.
[01:01:22.740 --> 01:01:25.740]  We know that the American two-party system is broken,
[01:01:25.740 --> 01:01:31.740]  and that to restore American liberty means to restore your right as an individual.
[01:01:31.740 --> 01:01:35.740]  At benswan.com, we cover stories the national media won't touch,
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[01:01:41.740 --> 01:01:46.740]  benswan.com, where humanity is greater than politics.
[01:01:46.740 --> 01:01:50.740]  The Republican Party in Ohio has been pulling out all the stops
[01:01:50.740 --> 01:01:53.740]  to keep the Libertarian Party off the ballot.
[01:01:53.740 --> 01:01:54.740]  Well, why do this?
[01:01:54.740 --> 01:01:55.740]  Well, consider this.
[01:01:55.740 --> 01:01:59.740]  Republican Governor John Kasich is hoping to be re-elected in 2014,
[01:01:59.740 --> 01:02:02.740]  and yet has faced harsh criticism from Tea Party voters
[01:02:02.740 --> 01:02:05.740]  over his expansion of Medicaid in Ohio,
[01:02:05.740 --> 01:02:09.740]  as well as his support for Common Core State Standards.
[01:02:09.740 --> 01:02:14.740]  In 2010, when Kasich won the governorship from then-Governor and Democrat Ted Strickland,
[01:02:14.740 --> 01:02:19.740]  Kasich pulled 49% of the vote, to Strickland's 47%.
[01:02:19.740 --> 01:02:22.740]  The Libertarian candidate pulled 2%.
[01:02:22.740 --> 01:02:27.740]  Well, estimates this time is that Earl could pull at minimum 5%,
[01:02:27.740 --> 01:02:29.740]  but could go as high as 10%.
[01:02:29.740 --> 01:02:34.740]  Even at 5%, Charlie Earl prevents John Kasich from being re-elected
[01:02:34.740 --> 01:02:38.740]  if the GOP turnout is similar to 2010.
[01:02:38.740 --> 01:02:41.740]  So the answer to the Libertarian threat?
[01:02:41.740 --> 01:02:44.740]  Just remove the party from the ballot.
[01:02:44.740 --> 01:02:50.740]  Give voters fewer choices in order to preserve your position of power.
[01:02:50.740 --> 01:02:54.740]  For stories that affect your liberty, you can find me online at benswan.com,
[01:02:54.740 --> 01:03:08.740]  where humanity is greater than politics.
[01:03:25.740 --> 01:03:27.740]  How about we say?
[01:03:43.740 --> 01:03:44.740]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:44.740 --> 01:03:47.740]  Randy Chalke, Deborah Stevens, Riverwell Radio,
[01:03:47.740 --> 01:03:51.740]  and we're talking to Susan in Florida.
[01:03:51.740 --> 01:03:57.740]  Again, going after public officials with the grand jury,
[01:03:57.740 --> 01:04:04.740]  the way I think about it is it's an appeal process.
[01:04:04.740 --> 01:04:13.740]  Instead of appealing to a panel of judges that are just as corrupt as the trial judge,
[01:04:13.740 --> 01:04:20.740]  our founders were very insightful when they created the grand jury system.
[01:04:20.740 --> 01:04:26.740]  It was a wonderful check to the abuse of official powers.
[01:04:26.740 --> 01:04:32.740]  You have to understand why the grand jury was originally created.
[01:04:32.740 --> 01:04:35.740]  You know, prosecutors, they want to say that,
[01:04:35.740 --> 01:04:41.740]  well, you know, I'm the one who has to prosecute the case,
[01:04:41.740 --> 01:04:44.740]  and I am learning counsel,
[01:04:44.740 --> 01:04:53.740]  so I should be the one to determine if there is sufficient evidence to want a prosecution.
[01:04:53.740 --> 01:04:59.740]  Well, our legal system has been around a very long time,
[01:04:59.740 --> 01:05:05.740]  and while that is a very logical argument,
[01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:10.740]  we figured out a very long time ago that logic is not truth.
[01:05:10.740 --> 01:05:18.740]  It merely has the ring of truth and therefore is the first refuge of the scoundrel.
[01:05:18.740 --> 01:05:21.740]  Yes, that sounds reasonable,
[01:05:21.740 --> 01:05:30.740]  but the problem is prosecuting attorneys are public officials and they're elected officials.
[01:05:30.740 --> 01:05:34.740]  They are therefore necessarily corrupt,
[01:05:34.740 --> 01:05:38.740]  or at least we should treat them as if they are corrupt,
[01:05:38.740 --> 01:05:48.740]  as if they are influenced by pressures that do not go to the rule of law and justice.
[01:05:48.740 --> 01:05:57.740]  So we cannot trust to the good faith of the prosecuting attorney.
[01:05:57.740 --> 01:06:02.740]  Our founders knew full well the dangers of that.
[01:06:02.740 --> 01:06:14.740]  We fought a revolution to eliminate a situation where the state was the accuser and the prosecutor.
[01:06:14.740 --> 01:06:19.740]  So we set up the grand jury system for any serious crime.
[01:06:19.740 --> 01:06:23.740]  Misdemeanors, actually in the state of Texas,
[01:06:23.740 --> 01:06:28.740]  the Constitution calls for all crimes to go before grand jury,
[01:06:28.740 --> 01:06:32.740]  and I absolutely believe we should return to that,
[01:06:32.740 --> 01:06:36.740]  but that's a separate fight.
[01:06:36.740 --> 01:06:38.740]  Felonies always go to a grand jury,
[01:06:38.740 --> 01:06:41.740]  and that was done on purpose because they didn't want to prosecute
[01:06:41.740 --> 01:06:45.740]  or decide which cases he wanted to prosecute and which ones he didn't.
[01:06:45.740 --> 01:06:48.740]  They do that anyway,
[01:06:48.740 --> 01:06:57.740]  but I deliberately get them to do that with criminal complaints against a public official.
[01:06:57.740 --> 01:07:01.740]  If you're in a state that doesn't have our law that requires them,
[01:07:01.740 --> 01:07:06.740]  that takes away their discretion in matters of complaints against public officials,
[01:07:06.740 --> 01:07:13.740]  you can still accuse them not of exercising prosecutorial discretion,
[01:07:13.740 --> 01:07:20.740]  but of exercising prosecutorial caprice.
[01:07:20.740 --> 01:07:27.740]  The courts have passively authorized prosecutors to determine
[01:07:27.740 --> 01:07:33.740]  whether or not there's sufficient evidence to warrant a prosecution.
[01:07:33.740 --> 01:07:40.740]  They have not authorized prosecutors to decide who they want to prosecute and who they do not.
[01:07:40.740 --> 01:07:49.740]  That is the very reason a grand jury was put in place, to prevent just exactly that.
[01:07:49.740 --> 01:07:58.740]  So I will go in and deliberately get the prosecutor to do just exactly that.
[01:07:58.740 --> 01:08:09.740]  And the reason I only file on point of law is because this baby who knocked me down and broke my elbow,
[01:08:09.740 --> 01:08:12.740]  he really didn't mean to do it,
[01:08:12.740 --> 01:08:22.740]  and whether or not he committed a crime was a matter of someone making a determination
[01:08:22.740 --> 01:08:29.740]  of whether or not his action rose to the level of criminal.
[01:08:29.740 --> 01:08:32.740]  So it was a discretionary call.
[01:08:32.740 --> 01:08:39.740]  I never want to give them opportunity to make a discretionary call.
[01:08:39.740 --> 01:08:45.740]  I went to the prosecuting attorney and I made a criminal accusation against a public official.
[01:08:45.740 --> 01:08:51.740]  Article 2.03, Code of Criminal Procedure, says when a prosecuting attorney has made known any manner
[01:08:51.740 --> 01:08:54.740]  that a public official violated his law and related to his office,
[01:08:54.740 --> 01:09:00.740]  he shall reduce the complaint to an information and submit it to the grand jury.
[01:09:00.740 --> 01:09:06.740]  It says shall, it does not say may, mic, or can, if he wants to.
[01:09:06.740 --> 01:09:12.740]  Without regard to the validity of the complaint against the public official,
[01:09:12.740 --> 01:09:18.740]  the prosecuting attorney fails to perform a duty he was required to perform,
[01:09:18.740 --> 01:09:23.740]  and in the process denied me and my right to petition for redress of grievance
[01:09:23.740 --> 01:09:29.740]  in violation of 39.03 Penal Code, dead, bang.
[01:09:29.740 --> 01:09:32.740]  No room for discretion.
[01:09:32.740 --> 01:09:38.740]  He either gave that to a grand jury or he did not give that to a grand jury.
[01:09:38.740 --> 01:09:45.740]  You file a motion with the court, the court either heard it or refused to hear it.
[01:09:45.740 --> 01:09:55.740]  If they refuse to hear it, that's not discretionary, that's not up for argument.
[01:09:55.740 --> 01:09:58.740]  Look for cases where you have them dead, bang,
[01:09:58.740 --> 01:10:07.740]  and I'm going to suggest that the more in-ticket the complaint is,
[01:10:07.740 --> 01:10:11.740]  the less serious it is, the better.
[01:10:11.740 --> 01:10:19.740]  I went to a court clerk today and asked to see a criminal file,
[01:10:19.740 --> 01:10:21.740]  and she said, who are you?
[01:10:21.740 --> 01:10:24.740]  And I told her, why do you want to see this file?
[01:10:24.740 --> 01:10:30.740]  I said, none of your business, and that set her back for a second,
[01:10:30.740 --> 01:10:34.740]  and I kind of smiled at her and hunched my shoulders,
[01:10:34.740 --> 01:10:41.740]  and she wasn't sure how to take that, but she said, okay.
[01:10:41.740 --> 01:10:47.740]  Now, if she had said anything else, that would have gotten a 9.1 call.
[01:10:47.740 --> 01:10:51.740]  I went to another JP's office today, that's the Feast of Records,
[01:10:51.740 --> 01:10:55.740]  and she refused to bring them.
[01:10:55.740 --> 01:11:01.740]  Now I file an official misconduct, official repression,
[01:11:01.740 --> 01:11:11.740]  Class A misdemeanor 3903 penal code under 27.004 Texas Government Code.
[01:11:11.740 --> 01:11:16.740]  A justice of the peace or a municipal court is required to keep their records
[01:11:16.740 --> 01:11:19.740]  open for public inspection by all interested parties
[01:11:19.740 --> 01:11:21.740]  at all reasonable times.
[01:11:21.740 --> 01:11:23.740]  Interested parties are defined by the Attorney General
[01:11:23.740 --> 01:11:31.740]  as you remember the public reasonable times for normal business hours, dead, bang.
[01:11:31.740 --> 01:11:33.740]  No room for interpretation.
[01:11:33.740 --> 01:11:40.740]  This is what you look for, and the way you get those, set them up.
[01:11:40.740 --> 01:11:41.740]  You set them up.
[01:11:41.740 --> 01:11:43.740]  Hold this law in front of them.
[01:11:43.740 --> 01:11:45.740]  Say, do this thing for me.
[01:11:45.740 --> 01:11:49.740]  Never tell them what the law says.
[01:11:49.740 --> 01:11:52.740]  You said never tell them what the law says.
[01:11:52.740 --> 01:11:54.740]  Right.
[01:11:54.740 --> 01:12:01.740]  The public officials, they already know, or they should have known.
[01:12:01.740 --> 01:12:02.740]  You don't owe it to them.
[01:12:02.740 --> 01:12:03.740]  Now, it's hard.
[01:12:03.740 --> 01:12:07.740]  You want to say, well, you're supposed to do this, you dirty rascal, blah, blah, blah.
[01:12:07.740 --> 01:12:11.740]  Well, this is what we do in normal civil behavior.
[01:12:11.740 --> 01:12:15.740]  If you do something to me that I feel is appropriate,
[01:12:15.740 --> 01:12:19.740]  it's simply responsible of me to give you notice.
[01:12:19.740 --> 01:12:21.740]  Well, this is not normal civil behavior.
[01:12:21.740 --> 01:12:23.740]  This is law.
[01:12:23.740 --> 01:12:31.740]  And in law, bushwhack is a whole lot more fun, and it's a lot more effective.
[01:12:31.740 --> 01:12:36.740]  And what I usually do, I usually don't quote the law because I'm not an attorney,
[01:12:36.740 --> 01:12:40.740]  but I usually ask them what law prohibits.
[01:12:40.740 --> 01:12:43.740]  Like, if they try to say, well, you can't do this or you can't do that,
[01:12:43.740 --> 01:12:48.740]  then it's like, okay, well, what law is actually prohibiting me from doing this or doing that?
[01:12:48.740 --> 01:12:50.740]  That is perfectly fine.
[01:12:50.740 --> 01:12:51.740]  Okay.
[01:12:51.740 --> 01:12:53.740]  That you can absolutely do.
[01:12:53.740 --> 01:12:55.740]  Okay.
[01:12:55.740 --> 01:13:02.740]  Basically, a good way to hold your mind when you're dealing with these public officials,
[01:13:02.740 --> 01:13:10.740]  always keep in mind what will play well before a grand jury.
[01:13:10.740 --> 01:13:16.740]  Now, in front of that grand jury, how do you actually make that transition
[01:13:16.740 --> 01:13:18.740]  to where you're actually in front of the grand jury?
[01:13:18.740 --> 01:13:24.740]  You go to the magistrate first, and you make a complaint to the magistrate?
[01:13:24.740 --> 01:13:29.740]  And then the magistrate either, if the magistrate does his job,
[01:13:29.740 --> 01:13:34.740]  then he'll forward that to the prosecutor and the prosecutor will forward it to the grand jury.
[01:13:34.740 --> 01:13:35.740]  But they never do that.
[01:13:35.740 --> 01:13:41.740]  So when they don't, when the magistrate refuses to take the complaint,
[01:13:41.740 --> 01:13:47.740]  then you take a complaint against the magistrate to the district attorney,
[01:13:47.740 --> 01:13:52.740]  the prosecuting attorney, and then he will refuse to give it to the grand jury.
[01:13:52.740 --> 01:13:58.740]  And I always do this because when I get to the grand jury,
[01:13:58.740 --> 01:14:04.740]  I want to be able to say, and this is exactly what I said to a grand jury in Johnson County,
[01:14:04.740 --> 01:14:12.740]  I went in when the grand jury came into court and was presenting their indictments to the court.
[01:14:12.740 --> 01:14:17.740]  When they finished, the judge said, does the grand jury have any further business?
[01:14:17.740 --> 01:14:20.740]  And the foreman said, no, Your Honor, we do not.
[01:14:20.740 --> 01:14:24.740]  I stood up in the courtroom and said, yes, you do.
[01:14:24.740 --> 01:14:26.740]  The judge said, well, who are you?
[01:14:26.740 --> 01:14:28.740]  I said, Randall Cote.
[01:14:28.740 --> 01:14:30.740]  And what business do you have with this grand jury?
[01:14:30.740 --> 01:14:37.740]  At that point, I could have told the judge, I have business with this grand jury and it's none of yours.
[01:14:37.740 --> 01:14:42.740]  The grand jury is not under the authority of the court.
[01:14:42.740 --> 01:14:45.740]  They are separated on their own.
[01:14:45.740 --> 01:14:47.740]  But in this case, I had plans for the judge.
[01:14:47.740 --> 01:14:52.740]  So I said, well, Your Honor, I have criminal complaints against a couple of public officials.
[01:14:52.740 --> 01:14:53.740]  And what officials are those?
[01:14:53.740 --> 01:14:58.740]  Well, there's district attorneys sitting there, and the district attorney and his assistant were sitting there.
[01:14:58.740 --> 01:14:59.740]  They didn't say a word.
[01:14:59.740 --> 01:15:01.740]  They knew exactly why I was there.
[01:15:01.740 --> 01:15:05.740]  Well, there's a district attorney sitting there, and this assistant district attorney pointed up at him,
[01:15:05.740 --> 01:15:12.740]  and you, Judge, he just froze in his tracks.
[01:15:12.740 --> 01:15:16.740]  I just bushwhacked him in front of his old grand jury, and he froze.
[01:15:16.740 --> 01:15:19.740]  He didn't say another word.
[01:15:19.740 --> 01:15:23.740]  So I turned to the grand jury, and I said, I am sorry.
[01:15:23.740 --> 01:15:34.740]  I had to interrupt your proceedings this way, but I have tried to reach you in the normal route, manner,
[01:15:34.740 --> 01:15:39.740]  and everybody has blocked me from you.
[01:15:39.740 --> 01:15:44.740]  I filed complaints with the sheriff's department, with the magistrate, with this prosecutor,
[01:15:44.740 --> 01:15:48.740]  and they all blocked my complaints from you.
[01:15:48.740 --> 01:15:50.740]  This was my only option left.
[01:15:50.740 --> 01:15:55.740]  Because the grand jury is going to ask, that question is going to be in their mind.
[01:15:55.740 --> 01:15:56.740]  Why are you coming to us directly?
[01:15:56.740 --> 01:16:00.740]  Because we don't normally get complaints from private citizens.
[01:16:00.740 --> 01:16:03.740]  So why are you coming here?
[01:16:03.740 --> 01:16:05.740]  So anything they say, did you do this?
[01:16:05.740 --> 01:16:06.740]  I did that.
[01:16:06.740 --> 01:16:07.740]  Did you do this?
[01:16:07.740 --> 01:16:09.740]  I did that.
[01:16:09.740 --> 01:16:15.740]  You want to be able to show that you have did your due diligence.
[01:16:15.740 --> 01:16:20.740]  You've tried everything before coming to them.
[01:16:20.740 --> 01:16:23.740]  And that's when the prosecutor will figure it out.
[01:16:23.740 --> 01:16:30.740]  I had the same prosecutor's office call me and said I should file these complaints with the sheriff's department.
[01:16:30.740 --> 01:16:32.740]  I said, no, ma'am.
[01:16:32.740 --> 01:16:34.740]  I'll be filing these with the grand jury.
[01:16:34.740 --> 01:16:38.740]  The only thing you can do is decide if you want to hear the through the process or not.
[01:16:38.740 --> 01:16:41.740]  And two weeks later, she called and said I sent your documents to the sheriff.
[01:16:41.740 --> 01:16:45.740]  He said he couldn't read them because there were complaints against him in there.
[01:16:45.740 --> 01:16:46.740]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:16:46.740 --> 01:16:47.740]  No worries.
[01:16:47.740 --> 01:16:48.740]  I'll finish this on the other side.
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[01:19:28.740 --> 01:19:33.740]  Randy Kelton, River Stevens, Ruval Radio, and my party's going out.
[01:19:33.740 --> 01:19:38.740]  Generally, when I'm doing the outro, I mute the caller.
[01:19:38.740 --> 01:19:42.740]  But it seems I muted myself.
[01:19:42.740 --> 01:19:46.740]  I'm on the caller bridge today or upon the guest bridge
[01:19:46.740 --> 01:19:48.740]  because my other connection's not working.
[01:19:48.740 --> 01:19:50.740]  I'm muted myself.
[01:19:50.740 --> 01:19:51.740]  Oops.
[01:19:51.740 --> 01:19:58.740]  Okay, I was talking about the strategy for the grand jury,
[01:19:58.740 --> 01:20:04.740]  and this prosecutor had asked me to give my complaints to the sheriff's department.
[01:20:04.740 --> 01:20:05.740]  I refused.
[01:20:05.740 --> 01:20:07.740]  And then she called me and said,
[01:20:07.740 --> 01:20:11.740]  Mr. Kelton, I sent your complaints to the sheriff's department,
[01:20:11.740 --> 01:20:15.740]  and he sent them back and said he couldn't do anything with them
[01:20:15.740 --> 01:20:18.740]  because there were complaints against him in there.
[01:20:18.740 --> 01:20:21.740]  And I said, well, yes, as a matter of fact, there were.
[01:20:21.740 --> 01:20:28.740]  She said, Mr. Kelton, I get the impression you planned this this way.
[01:20:28.740 --> 01:20:33.740]  I said, well, Ms. Wyatt, you're very astute.
[01:20:33.740 --> 01:20:37.740]  I hope you don't think this is my first rodeo.
[01:20:37.740 --> 01:20:42.740]  And she said, no, Mr. Kelton, somehow I don't think this is.
[01:20:42.740 --> 01:20:51.740]  This is exactly what you want the prosecutor, the magistrates, the judges to think.
[01:20:51.740 --> 01:20:58.740]  From that point on, she considered everything I did as a setup,
[01:20:58.740 --> 01:21:03.740]  but I was deliberately setting them up so I could hammer them.
[01:21:03.740 --> 01:21:07.740]  And she was right.
[01:21:07.740 --> 01:21:16.740]  If you go in from the perspective of never ask a public official to do
[01:21:16.740 --> 01:21:20.740]  anything you actually want them to do,
[01:21:20.740 --> 01:21:26.740]  what flows from your behavior will flow naturally,
[01:21:26.740 --> 01:21:34.740]  but it will flow naturally in a way that interrupts the expectation
[01:21:34.740 --> 01:21:38.740]  of these public officials.
[01:21:38.740 --> 01:21:43.740]  I go in and ask them to do something and they refuse.
[01:21:43.740 --> 01:21:47.740]  And I never get upset with them.
[01:21:47.740 --> 01:21:50.740]  I'd laugh and joke with them.
[01:21:50.740 --> 01:21:57.740]  And I do that because I want them to think I have another agenda.
[01:21:57.740 --> 01:22:01.740]  And when I go before a grand jury,
[01:22:01.740 --> 01:22:09.740]  I don't want to hear this, Mr. Kelton was agitated.
[01:22:09.740 --> 01:22:14.740]  The JPS spoke of earlier that I got the big stack of complaints for.
[01:22:14.740 --> 01:22:17.740]  When I walked out of his courtroom, I told the bailiff,
[01:22:17.740 --> 01:22:20.740]  you come with me, I need you.
[01:22:20.740 --> 01:22:22.740]  Turned and walked out.
[01:22:22.740 --> 01:22:24.740]  When I get outside, I asked the bailiff to arrest the judge.
[01:22:24.740 --> 01:22:26.740]  He refused.
[01:22:26.740 --> 01:22:28.740]  Got pretty hussy and turned and walked away.
[01:22:28.740 --> 01:22:33.740]  And I said, Mr. Bailiff, I need you to take your chicken suit off.
[01:22:33.740 --> 01:22:38.740]  And he froze in his tracks, spun around on me and said,
[01:22:38.740 --> 01:22:40.740]  that was uncalled for.
[01:22:40.740 --> 01:22:43.740]  Yes, it was called for, you coward.
[01:22:43.740 --> 01:22:45.740]  You have a duty to keep the peace.
[01:22:45.740 --> 01:22:47.740]  It makes no difference who reaches in.
[01:22:47.740 --> 01:22:49.740]  You're too afraid to do it.
[01:22:49.740 --> 01:22:51.740]  Get that chicken suit off and do your job.
[01:22:51.740 --> 01:22:58.740]  Just stood there a few weeks for a minute and then spun around and left.
[01:22:58.740 --> 01:23:08.740]  The reason for that is if he tells the judge or someone else that I was agitated,
[01:23:08.740 --> 01:23:18.740]  then I will ask, did I get agitated before I asked you to take your chicken suit off
[01:23:18.740 --> 01:23:23.740]  or after I asked you to take your chicken suit off?
[01:23:23.740 --> 01:23:29.740]  And in Masfield, Texas, it worked exactly that way.
[01:23:29.740 --> 01:23:37.740]  So always think what will play well in front of the grand jury.
[01:23:37.740 --> 01:23:39.740]  How do you get in?
[01:23:39.740 --> 01:23:44.740]  Where are they actually located to find them?
[01:23:44.740 --> 01:23:46.740]  They will always be in the courthouse.
[01:23:46.740 --> 01:23:52.740]  And the way I find that out is you do a little song and dance,
[01:23:52.740 --> 01:23:57.740]  self-defense dance, you call up the courthouse and say,
[01:23:57.740 --> 01:24:04.740]  hey, I got some kids in high school and she's doing a report on the legal system
[01:24:04.740 --> 01:24:08.740]  and she wants to do a story about the grand jury.
[01:24:08.740 --> 01:24:14.740]  Can you tell me all about the grand jury and who impanels them?
[01:24:14.740 --> 01:24:16.740]  Where are they impaneled?
[01:24:16.740 --> 01:24:18.740]  Do they have a special building where they meet?
[01:24:18.740 --> 01:24:19.740]  Where do they meet?
[01:24:19.740 --> 01:24:20.740]  When do they meet?
[01:24:20.740 --> 01:24:26.740]  They will tell you everything.
[01:24:26.740 --> 01:24:33.740]  Okay, it's only a little fib, but they work really well.
[01:24:33.740 --> 01:24:34.740]  Okay.
[01:24:34.740 --> 01:24:43.740]  Because it looks like the district attorney, the state attorney is like the guardkeeper of the jury.
[01:24:43.740 --> 01:24:44.740]  Okay.
[01:24:44.740 --> 01:24:46.740]  This is how you do it.
[01:24:46.740 --> 01:24:57.740]  Once you find out where they meet, you go to the courthouse and we're doing a report for school
[01:24:57.740 --> 01:25:01.740]  or I'm doing a report for college.
[01:25:01.740 --> 01:25:02.740]  Can you show me the grand jury room?
[01:25:02.740 --> 01:25:05.740]  I'd like to see where they meet, what the room looks like.
[01:25:05.740 --> 01:25:12.740]  You want to do that when they're not around, just so you know where it's at.
[01:25:12.740 --> 01:25:15.740]  And then you go back when the grand jury is meeting.
[01:25:15.740 --> 01:25:18.740]  How do you find out where they meet?
[01:25:18.740 --> 01:25:23.740]  You can pretty well find that out just by calling the clerk.
[01:25:23.740 --> 01:25:27.740]  Then you act like you're an attorney.
[01:25:27.740 --> 01:25:28.740]  Okay.
[01:25:28.740 --> 01:25:32.740]  You just call them up and say, okay, I've got some hearings.
[01:25:32.740 --> 01:25:38.740]  I have someone that is supposed to be presented to the grand jury.
[01:25:38.740 --> 01:25:40.740]  What days are they supposed to meet?
[01:25:40.740 --> 01:25:49.740]  Generally, you want to find out which judge to panel the grand jury,
[01:25:49.740 --> 01:25:54.740]  because generally they will take that duty out.
[01:25:54.740 --> 01:26:02.740]  And when you find out which judge to panel the grand jury, then you call that judge's coordinator.
[01:26:02.740 --> 01:26:08.740]  Coordinator, clerk, whoever keeps the calendar for the judge.
[01:26:08.740 --> 01:26:12.740]  They sometimes call them a clerk, but she's really not part of the clerk's office.
[01:26:12.740 --> 01:26:14.740]  She's the secretary for the judge.
[01:26:14.740 --> 01:26:19.740]  She will have that calendar of when the grand jury is meeting.
[01:26:19.740 --> 01:26:24.740]  And if you call them up and act like you're an attorney, you don't say why, just act like you are,
[01:26:24.740 --> 01:26:28.740]  she will give you this information without any question.
[01:26:28.740 --> 01:26:37.740]  If it is a large jurisdiction, the grand jury should generally meet every day, like Miami or Fort Lauderdale.
[01:26:37.740 --> 01:26:39.740]  They're going to have a meeting every year.
[01:26:39.740 --> 01:26:44.740]  Dallas has four grand juries meeting every day.
[01:26:44.740 --> 01:26:46.740]  Austin has three.
[01:26:46.740 --> 01:26:48.740]  I think Fort Worth has three.
[01:26:48.740 --> 01:26:53.740]  So the bigger jurisdictions will have lots of grand jurors meeting all the time.
[01:26:53.740 --> 01:26:59.740]  Smaller jurisdictions like Johnson County, grand jury met once a month.
[01:26:59.740 --> 01:27:06.740]  But the smaller the jurisdiction, the less difficult they are.
[01:27:06.740 --> 01:27:09.740]  The easier they are to find out information about.
[01:27:09.740 --> 01:27:11.740]  So you find out when they're going to meet.
[01:27:11.740 --> 01:27:16.740]  And while they're meeting, you go down to that room and there will be this 30-year-old
[01:27:16.740 --> 01:27:19.740]  that's standing in front of the doorway.
[01:27:19.740 --> 01:27:26.740]  You walk up to the bait, you tell the bait of your name, and you tell him it's from the foreman
[01:27:26.740 --> 01:27:30.740]  that I have business with the grand jury.
[01:27:30.740 --> 01:27:34.740]  Every time I've done this, they've always said the same thing.
[01:27:34.740 --> 01:27:40.740]  May I tell him the nature, tell the foreman the nature of the business?
[01:27:40.740 --> 01:27:42.740]  Yes, you may.
[01:27:42.740 --> 01:27:48.740]  Give him this and have him a sealed folder addressed to the grand jury.
[01:27:48.740 --> 01:27:52.740]  And then turn and walk away.
[01:27:52.740 --> 01:27:55.740]  Just leave the building.
[01:27:55.740 --> 01:27:59.740]  At this point, you don't care what he does with it.
[01:27:59.740 --> 01:28:05.740]  What you expect him to do with it is give it to the prosecuting attorney.
[01:28:05.740 --> 01:28:15.740]  And you need to see how indictments are presented to the court.
[01:28:15.740 --> 01:28:19.740]  It will be a true bill or a no bill.
[01:28:19.740 --> 01:28:32.740]  Go to the clerk and ask to see all of the indictments by the grand jury over the last week.
[01:28:32.740 --> 01:28:40.740]  And if they give you any difficulty, say, I want to see if there's an indictment against this person,
[01:28:40.740 --> 01:28:43.740]  one of the people in your complaints.
[01:28:43.740 --> 01:28:52.740]  And if they say, no, there's not, now you have reason to believe that the bailiff failed to give your documents
[01:28:52.740 --> 01:28:57.740]  to the grand jury, but instead gave them to the prosecuting attorney.
[01:28:57.740 --> 01:29:00.740]  Well, do something else with them.
[01:29:00.740 --> 01:29:07.740]  Then you go back the next time they meet with a complaint against the bailiff.
[01:29:07.740 --> 01:29:16.740]  Then you go to the bailiff and say, Mr. Bailiff, tell him your name is and tell him if it is the same bailiff,
[01:29:16.740 --> 01:29:21.740]  will you please give me another bailiff as I have business with the grand jury,
[01:29:21.740 --> 01:29:28.740]  which involves criminal accusations against you for secreting criminal complaints from the grand jury.
[01:29:28.740 --> 01:29:33.740]  I need another bailiff to give these to.
[01:29:33.740 --> 01:29:39.740]  I don't need his attention. I really need to. We've got two other calls. I need to take him.
[01:29:39.740 --> 01:29:40.740]  Okay.
[01:29:40.740 --> 01:29:44.740]  Do you have other questions on this subject?
[01:29:44.740 --> 01:29:47.740]  If you do, call me tomorrow night. We'll have more time.
[01:29:47.740 --> 01:29:48.740]  Okay.
[01:29:48.740 --> 01:29:52.740]  This just happens to be my favorite subject.
[01:29:52.740 --> 01:29:55.740]  Well, thank you and have a great evening.
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[01:33:41.740 --> 01:33:44.740]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:33:44.740 --> 01:33:47.740]  and we've been talking about the grand jury,
[01:33:47.740 --> 01:33:52.740]  and we will get back into that tomorrow night if you'll call in, Susan.
[01:33:52.740 --> 01:33:56.740]  Did you have any other specific questions tonight?
[01:33:56.740 --> 01:33:59.740]  No.
[01:33:59.740 --> 01:34:07.740]  Oh, I think I might have put her to sleep.
[01:34:07.740 --> 01:34:09.740]  I have that effect on people sometimes.
[01:34:09.740 --> 01:34:12.740]  Okay, I'm going to go to Charlie in Utah.
[01:34:12.740 --> 01:34:14.740]  Hello, Charlie.
[01:34:14.740 --> 01:34:16.740]  Hello, how am I coming in?
[01:34:16.740 --> 01:34:17.740]  Can you hear me all right?
[01:34:17.740 --> 01:34:18.740]  Yes, I can.
[01:34:18.740 --> 01:34:20.740]  You're a little bit low.
[01:34:20.740 --> 01:34:22.740]  All right.
[01:34:22.740 --> 01:34:24.740]  I can hear you.
[01:34:24.740 --> 01:34:29.740]  Actually, listen, Charlie, don't turn up anymore.
[01:34:29.740 --> 01:34:31.740]  Randy's having problems with his headset.
[01:34:31.740 --> 01:34:32.740]  You sound fine.
[01:34:32.740 --> 01:34:34.740]  Don't turn up anymore, please.
[01:34:34.740 --> 01:34:35.740]  All right.
[01:34:35.740 --> 01:34:38.740]  Okay, as long as you can hear me, Randy.
[01:34:38.740 --> 01:34:41.740]  My question pertains to exhibit.
[01:34:41.740 --> 01:34:42.740]  I have a question.
[01:34:42.740 --> 01:34:43.740]  I have a question.
[01:34:43.740 --> 01:34:44.740]  I have a question.
[01:34:44.740 --> 01:34:45.740]  I have a question.
[01:34:45.740 --> 01:34:46.740]  I have a question.
[01:34:46.740 --> 01:34:56.740]  I have a question.
[01:34:56.740 --> 01:35:00.740]  My question pertains to exhibits.
[01:35:00.740 --> 01:35:08.740]  Assuming that I put some exhibits in with the complaint and I labeled them Exhibit A and B.
[01:35:08.740 --> 01:35:16.120]  labeled B and C or does that memorandum, does the following memorandum get labeled A and
[01:35:16.120 --> 01:35:17.120]  B also?
[01:35:17.120 --> 01:35:18.120]  So are they...
[01:35:18.120 --> 01:35:19.120]  No, no, no.
[01:35:19.120 --> 01:35:26.540]  They will be cumulative and generally you will name them either plaintiff's exhibit
[01:35:26.540 --> 01:35:32.820]  or defendant's exhibit, whichever you are, so it's clear whose it is and just number
[01:35:32.820 --> 01:35:33.820]  them in order.
[01:35:33.820 --> 01:35:34.820]  Okay.
[01:35:34.820 --> 01:35:35.820]  Very good.
[01:35:35.820 --> 01:35:46.580]  Yeah, don't say what kind of exhibit it is, you know, it didn't have more than one exhibit
[01:35:46.580 --> 01:35:59.820]  with the same letter designation and generally when you file an exhibit, if you go into court,
[01:35:59.820 --> 01:36:08.940]  you want to make sure you establish a foundation for the exhibit and generally in court you
[01:36:08.940 --> 01:36:17.220]  will offer them in court and then the court will oftentimes, the clerk will set an exhibit
[01:36:17.220 --> 01:36:24.420]  number, but if you're putting it in a document the way you are, yeah, just start with exhibit
[01:36:24.420 --> 01:36:30.940]  A or exhibit one, you can actually call it wherever you want to.
[01:36:30.940 --> 01:36:37.100]  There's no rule that says you have to call it exhibit A, B or C. I have called them exhibit
[01:36:37.100 --> 01:36:45.060]  deed of trust, exhibit appointment of substitute trustee, just so that it can be identified
[01:36:45.060 --> 01:36:47.420]  from everything else in the case.
[01:36:47.420 --> 01:36:57.380]  Randy, let me, pertaining to the same question, is it better to put these exhibits sometimes
[01:36:57.380 --> 01:37:01.420]  with the complaint or is it better to just take them to a court case because the reason
[01:37:01.420 --> 01:37:06.940]  I ask this is because sometimes you just go on and on with transferring paperwork before
[01:37:06.940 --> 01:37:12.660]  you ever get to have an open court argument and if you wait too long, you don't put your
[01:37:12.660 --> 01:37:16.500]  evidence, your evidence is not there because you never put the exhibits in and the exhibits
[01:37:16.500 --> 01:37:18.580]  serve as the evidence.
[01:37:18.580 --> 01:37:23.180]  Always attach the exhibit to the filing that they relate to.
[01:37:23.180 --> 01:37:24.180]  Okay.
[01:37:24.180 --> 01:37:25.180]  Yeah, always.
[01:37:25.180 --> 01:37:30.940]  All right, now let's assume that I've done that as much as I needed to, but then I went
[01:37:30.940 --> 01:37:35.740]  to open court and I had some further evidence that I wanted that to be an exhibit.
[01:37:35.740 --> 01:37:41.580]  What would be my behavior and my procedure for getting the court to recognize that as
[01:37:41.580 --> 01:37:42.580]  an exhibit?
[01:37:42.580 --> 01:37:45.340]  Simply put it with a document and ask them to stick to it.
[01:37:45.340 --> 01:37:50.220]  Okay, this is how you would do that, you'd be in court and the first thing you would
[01:37:50.220 --> 01:37:58.900]  do by your verbal testimony or by a pleading that you have would have to establish foundation
[01:37:58.900 --> 01:37:59.900]  for the document.
[01:37:59.900 --> 01:38:07.220]  Like, you know, I mostly work with foreclosure and I say that on the blank day of blank,
[01:38:07.220 --> 01:38:12.420]  a document will be filed with the counter recorder's office and given document number
[01:38:12.420 --> 01:38:17.300]  so-and-so and title warranty deed.
[01:38:17.300 --> 01:38:24.300]  Now, that's the foundation, I'd like to offer the court a copy of said warranty deed
[01:38:24.300 --> 01:38:30.220]  and enter it into evidence as exhibit, whatever.
[01:38:30.220 --> 01:38:34.900]  Now you've established foundation for the document, now you offer it to the court, the
[01:38:34.900 --> 01:38:42.500]  other side gets an opportunity to raise an objection to it, but if you have established
[01:38:42.500 --> 01:38:49.940]  foundation, whether the authority comes from how it relates to the case, then the other
[01:38:49.940 --> 01:38:52.780]  side will have no real objection.
[01:38:52.780 --> 01:38:58.180]  They may object, but it'll generally get overruled, they'll accept it as evidence.
[01:38:58.180 --> 01:39:06.340]  If you try to adjust, give something to the court, it won't be properly before the court
[01:39:06.340 --> 01:39:07.340]  without foundation.
[01:39:07.340 --> 01:39:15.460]  If you file a motion that has exhibits, in the text of the motion, it must establish
[01:39:15.460 --> 01:39:18.940]  foundation for the exhibit.
[01:39:18.940 --> 01:39:23.060]  Okay, thank you.
[01:39:23.060 --> 01:39:26.020]  I think you have another caller, I'll ring off.
[01:39:26.020 --> 01:39:32.900]  And tomorrow, I have another question pertaining to, well, kind of along your lines of real
[01:39:32.900 --> 01:39:37.940]  estate and mortgages, just another simple question, but I'll wait until tomorrow to
[01:39:37.940 --> 01:39:40.140]  ask that question and let the other caller proceed.
[01:39:40.140 --> 01:39:43.380]  Okay, well, thank you very much.
[01:39:43.380 --> 01:39:44.380]  Thank you.
[01:39:44.380 --> 01:39:45.380]  Okay, we'll talk to you tomorrow.
[01:39:45.380 --> 01:39:53.460]  Now we're going to Gary in Texas, hello, Mr. Gary, I hear you cut your beard off now
[01:39:53.460 --> 01:39:56.380]  you look 10 years younger.
[01:39:56.380 --> 01:39:59.180]  35, 35, let's get it done.
[01:39:59.180 --> 01:40:00.180]  Oh, okay.
[01:40:00.180 --> 01:40:05.900]  Gary sent me an email, he cut his beard off, now he looks 10 years older, so I see he went
[01:40:05.900 --> 01:40:08.900]  back, so you only look 70 now.
[01:40:08.900 --> 01:40:11.940]  That was pretty mean.
[01:40:11.940 --> 01:40:13.740]  Hey, great show.
[01:40:13.740 --> 01:40:15.260]  I have a question.
[01:40:15.260 --> 01:40:20.860]  I was traveling down the highway today in my first automobile and I got stopped by a
[01:40:20.860 --> 01:40:29.540]  DPS officer and he pulled over, came up to the passenger window and startled me a little
[01:40:29.540 --> 01:40:34.700]  bit and I had that window rolled down about an inch and he asked me to roll it all the
[01:40:34.700 --> 01:40:40.780]  way down and I said, no, thank you, I can hear you just fine and you can hear me, how
[01:40:40.780 --> 01:40:42.420]  can I help you?
[01:40:42.420 --> 01:40:48.860]  So he started immediately escalating, demanding that I roll the window down and finally gave
[01:40:48.860 --> 01:40:56.180]  me an order to step outside and when he gave that order, I saw his hand touch the butt
[01:40:56.180 --> 01:40:58.180]  of his pistol.
[01:40:58.180 --> 01:41:03.860]  So I got out of the car, the very first question out of his mouth is, how much have you had
[01:41:03.860 --> 01:41:06.380]  to drink today?
[01:41:06.380 --> 01:41:15.220]  And I told him, not a drop, I don't drink and I don't do drugs, how can I help you?
[01:41:15.220 --> 01:41:25.980]  And he proceeded to try to force me into doing a sobriety test.
[01:41:25.980 --> 01:41:30.540]  And I said, well, what is the probable cause for your sobriety test?
[01:41:30.540 --> 01:41:36.460]  I've already told you, I don't drink, I don't do drugs, you can look at me, I'm
[01:41:36.460 --> 01:41:43.540]  enunciating perfectly, you know I'm not impaired, why, what is your probable cause?
[01:41:43.540 --> 01:41:47.820]  And he said, if you don't do this, I'm going to arrest you.
[01:41:47.820 --> 01:41:53.100]  And so I looked at him, I said, well, seeing as how you're wearing a gun, a taser, pepper
[01:41:53.100 --> 01:41:58.860]  spray, a club and you've got a microphone, I'm going to go ahead and participate.
[01:41:58.860 --> 01:42:05.460]  And so I went through all his BS and finally during the middle of it, I said, you know,
[01:42:05.460 --> 01:42:12.660]  I said, you know that I know that you know this is BS, you are just harassing me because
[01:42:12.660 --> 01:42:17.420]  I wouldn't roll down my window for you.
[01:42:17.420 --> 01:42:23.540]  And it kind of went on and on, and he finally at the end of it said, okay, we're done.
[01:42:23.540 --> 01:42:24.540]  I said, well, am I free to go?
[01:42:24.540 --> 01:42:25.540]  And he said, yeah.
[01:42:25.540 --> 01:42:31.700]  And he said, I've got a question for you, why don't you give me such a hard time?
[01:42:31.700 --> 01:42:39.060]  And of course, my response was, why do you define a hard time as being when somebody
[01:42:39.060 --> 01:42:50.220]  simply exerts their right of privacy and their right not to be bothered while merely traveling?
[01:42:50.220 --> 01:42:56.740]  So anyway, I thought about it and I really want to file charges against this guy.
[01:42:56.740 --> 01:43:02.460]  And I'd like to know what you think some of the appropriate charges might be.
[01:43:02.460 --> 01:43:12.100]  Well, official oppression right out of the box, but when his hand went to his pistol,
[01:43:12.100 --> 01:43:16.540]  I would go for first degree felony aggravated assault.
[01:43:16.540 --> 01:43:17.540]  Okay.
[01:43:17.540 --> 01:43:22.660]  Now, you don't expect to get him indicted for that.
[01:43:22.660 --> 01:43:23.660]  Correct.
[01:43:23.660 --> 01:43:30.420]  And I know I get some heat about this, but I never actually want him indicted.
[01:43:30.420 --> 01:43:36.860]  I want him to look at the possibility, because they do not trust grand juries.
[01:43:36.860 --> 01:43:45.020]  Hang on, we'll pick this up on the other side, because that's the real genius of grand juries.
[01:43:45.020 --> 01:43:49.660]  They said, those aren't grand juries, you never know what they're going to do.
[01:43:49.660 --> 01:43:54.380]  This is Randy Kelly, Debra Stevens, who is on the radio, we're about to go to our last
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[01:46:28.220 --> 01:46:29.220]  We're back.
[01:46:29.220 --> 01:46:43.780]  Landon Shelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, we're talking to Gary in Texas about
[01:46:43.780 --> 01:46:44.780]  the officer.
[01:46:44.780 --> 01:46:48.900]  Let's start down the code.
[01:46:48.900 --> 01:46:55.260]  The officer pulled you over without probable cause.
[01:46:55.260 --> 01:47:03.860]  So, that would make the original stop illegal, it could not be construed as a Terry stop
[01:47:03.860 --> 01:47:08.540]  as there was no reason to believe that you were intoxicated.
[01:47:08.540 --> 01:47:14.340]  So, I'd call that official oppression, exerting or purporting to exerting authority he did
[01:47:14.340 --> 01:47:15.820]  not expressly have.
[01:47:15.820 --> 01:47:16.820]  Okay.
[01:47:16.820 --> 01:47:18.820]  Randy, can I say something here?
[01:47:18.820 --> 01:47:19.820]  Yes.
[01:47:19.820 --> 01:47:20.820]  Okay.
[01:47:20.820 --> 01:47:21.820]  Thank you.
[01:47:21.820 --> 01:47:32.740]  I had a registration document with a new registration tag and I didn't have it glued to my windshield.
[01:47:32.740 --> 01:47:39.020]  I had it in prominently displayed so that anybody could see it, but I just hadn't taken
[01:47:39.020 --> 01:47:45.220]  it off the paper and glued it to the windshield, so that's why he said he stopped me.
[01:47:45.220 --> 01:47:49.700]  And I said, well, look, it's prominently displayed, it's clear, I just haven't, dude, I haven't
[01:47:49.700 --> 01:47:54.580]  taken the time to do it, sorry, but I paid for it and it's there and you know I'm current,
[01:47:54.580 --> 01:47:55.580]  so what's the problem?
[01:47:55.580 --> 01:48:01.420]  So, anyway, that was his reason for- Okay, no, that's not probable cause.
[01:48:01.420 --> 01:48:03.100]  I didn't think so either.
[01:48:03.100 --> 01:48:08.100]  It's not illegal not to display a registration.
[01:48:08.100 --> 01:48:13.740]  It is a crime not to display a safety sticker.
[01:48:13.740 --> 01:48:21.140]  The crime is not having the safety sticker, the crime is not prominently displaying the
[01:48:21.140 --> 01:48:24.780]  safety sticker.
[01:48:24.780 --> 01:48:32.700]  It's not a crime not to display the registration.
[01:48:32.700 --> 01:48:34.700]  That was no probable cause.
[01:48:34.700 --> 01:48:35.700]  Right.
[01:48:35.700 --> 01:48:38.820]  He probably hadn't read that code.
[01:48:38.820 --> 01:48:42.700]  Oh no, no way.
[01:48:42.700 --> 01:48:48.980]  What makes it better when you take him apart on the details, then after stopping you for
[01:48:48.980 --> 01:48:58.300]  something that was not a crime, then he ordered you to do something that he had no power to
[01:48:58.300 --> 01:49:01.580]  order you to do.
[01:49:01.580 --> 01:49:08.020]  Where specifically is he authorized to order you to roll down your window?
[01:49:08.020 --> 01:49:09.020]  Nowhere.
[01:49:09.020 --> 01:49:19.140]  So, you maintain that that was an act in excess of his authority and then when you failed
[01:49:19.140 --> 01:49:28.500]  to do that, he moved his hand to his pistol and that was an act of aggravated assault.
[01:49:28.500 --> 01:49:30.500]  Correct.
[01:49:30.500 --> 01:49:37.740]  Then charge him with each one of them and they really get excited when you walk down
[01:49:37.740 --> 01:49:40.700]  their code this way.
[01:49:40.700 --> 01:49:54.780]  The form I use when I prepare a criminal complaint is I say, the officer stopped me for failure
[01:49:54.780 --> 01:50:05.460]  to prominently display a registration and then I state that the code requires that I
[01:50:05.460 --> 01:50:12.580]  have the registration, it does not require that I prominently display it and then I quote
[01:50:12.580 --> 01:50:21.860]  the code and then aggravated official oppression and that the officer exerted or purported
[01:50:21.860 --> 01:50:27.340]  to exert an authority he did not express for having ordered me to roll a window and he
[01:50:27.340 --> 01:50:36.180]  violated, committed official oppression as the legislature intended the term when they
[01:50:36.180 --> 01:50:44.420]  enacted that his penal code 39.03 which reads as follows, colon and then I quote the code
[01:50:44.420 --> 01:50:52.220]  so that whoever is reading it, I don't just refer to a code.
[01:50:52.220 --> 01:50:55.980]  This is written for a grand jury.
[01:50:55.980 --> 01:51:01.980]  You don't want the grand jury to have to go looking for it and I generally quote the
[01:51:01.980 --> 01:51:09.020]  entire code and go in and highlight the sections that are relevant to this issue and then at
[01:51:09.020 --> 01:51:15.300]  the bottom I put in parentheses emphasis added.
[01:51:15.300 --> 01:51:23.700]  It makes, if you set your quotations like my document will be spaced, it will be, it
[01:51:23.700 --> 01:51:31.220]  used to be 12 point font, now they're asking for 14 so you go 14 point font in your normal
[01:51:31.220 --> 01:51:41.100]  section of the document and then you set your quotation to 12 point font, single space with
[01:51:41.100 --> 01:51:48.140]  just like a six point extra space after each paragraph and you reduce the margins on both
[01:51:48.140 --> 01:51:55.780]  sides a half an inch, that way as the reader reads it, it's clear that this is separate
[01:51:55.780 --> 01:52:03.180]  from your affidavit portion and like if it's a judge or something they know what that is
[01:52:03.180 --> 01:52:08.620]  and they can either read it or not and I didn't come up with this, I actually found it in
[01:52:08.620 --> 01:52:17.220]  other pleadings and it gives a nice crisp clean look to the document and if you make
[01:52:17.220 --> 01:52:24.980]  all your accusations in the verbiage of the statute and then quote the statute, it really
[01:52:24.980 --> 01:52:36.500]  gets their attention and quoting 2202B2A, first degree felony aggravated assault, never,
[01:52:36.500 --> 01:52:46.700]  I can find no case where any public official has ever been prosecuted under that statute
[01:52:46.700 --> 01:52:54.820]  and the officer has probably never heard of it and I can almost guarantee you when he
[01:52:54.820 --> 01:53:08.540]  sees it, he's going to get apoplexy, we do our job, we don't get him indicted but we
[01:53:08.540 --> 01:53:09.540]  get his attention.
[01:53:09.540 --> 01:53:21.020]  Well you know, Randy, the way that I felt today, I haven't been stopped in five years
[01:53:21.020 --> 01:53:27.860]  and the way that I felt because after listening to you for the last six or seven years on
[01:53:27.860 --> 01:53:36.740]  the radio, I've read the administrative code, I've read the oath that the DPS officers
[01:53:36.740 --> 01:53:44.980]  take where they promise that they will uphold and secure the rights of the public and that
[01:53:44.980 --> 01:53:52.060]  they will treat us with the utmost respect and this guy was sitting there, he was trying
[01:53:52.060 --> 01:54:00.660]  to bully me because he was armed and I wasn't and I guarantee you he would never have talked
[01:54:00.660 --> 01:54:06.340]  to me in that way or treated me in that way if I would have been brandishing a sidearm
[01:54:06.340 --> 01:54:13.300]  on my hip just like he was and it makes me so angry because I was completely innocent
[01:54:13.300 --> 01:54:23.380]  of any wrongdoing and he did it just because he could and I had to endure it and as a man,
[01:54:23.380 --> 01:54:26.660]  I felt humiliated.
[01:54:26.660 --> 01:54:30.180]  That is exactly how you should feel.
[01:54:30.180 --> 01:54:31.180]  Yes.
[01:54:31.180 --> 01:54:41.100]  They should be made to know that and you know, it is my ultimate goal to put every, I say
[01:54:41.100 --> 01:54:47.020]  every judge in a position such that when he steps up behind the bar, a bench, looks out
[01:54:47.020 --> 01:54:53.100]  across the bar at the gallery, I want him wondering which one, same thing with the police,
[01:54:53.100 --> 01:54:54.100]  which one.
[01:54:54.100 --> 01:54:55.100]  Yes, exactly.
[01:54:55.100 --> 01:55:00.300]  You know, I think I got this, I'm not using it right now, I got that from you.
[01:55:00.300 --> 01:55:01.300]  Yes.
[01:55:01.300 --> 01:55:06.820]  And I did that in Austin, the Austin police officer pulled me over and asked me, I gave
[01:55:06.820 --> 01:55:11.020]  him my Texas ID and he came back and said, Mitch Cowan, do you have a driver's license?
[01:55:11.020 --> 01:55:16.340]  Yes, I do, but I'm not using it right now.
[01:55:16.340 --> 01:55:22.060]  He stepped back and looked at me and he said, are you one of those guys and I said, yes,
[01:55:22.060 --> 01:55:23.060]  I am.
[01:55:23.060 --> 01:55:24.060]  Yes, I am.
[01:55:24.060 --> 01:55:25.060]  Have a nice day.
[01:55:25.060 --> 01:55:26.060]  Yes.
[01:55:26.060 --> 01:55:30.580]  If there does that, did not want to go back.
[01:55:30.580 --> 01:55:31.580]  Yes.
[01:55:31.580 --> 01:55:32.580]  Yes.
[01:55:32.580 --> 01:55:40.460]  You know, Randy, I'm thankful for the guys that are out there that are doing the job
[01:55:40.460 --> 01:55:46.900]  of patrolling the highways and stuff, that are doing it the right way and that are following
[01:55:46.900 --> 01:55:49.540]  the statutes and following the laws.
[01:55:49.540 --> 01:55:55.700]  I'm for those guys, I'll help them, I'll support them, I'll be their back.
[01:55:55.700 --> 01:56:03.700]  But when they do what this guy did, which was just being a bully, for no reason was
[01:56:03.700 --> 01:56:04.700]  it.
[01:56:04.700 --> 01:56:11.380]  Let me make a suggestion, the next time you deal with one of these guys and he does it
[01:56:11.380 --> 01:56:14.380]  right, write a letter.
[01:56:14.380 --> 01:56:20.540]  I pulled over on the side of the road, I had my brand new avalanche with a 350 motor strapped
[01:56:20.540 --> 01:56:22.740]  in the back of it, the motor started wiggling.
[01:56:22.740 --> 01:56:25.620]  So I pulled over, got out, pitched it down.
[01:56:25.620 --> 01:56:31.340]  It's like drizzly rain, cold, and this DPS officer stopped in the road, rolled down his
[01:56:31.340 --> 01:56:34.660]  passenger window and said, do you need any help?
[01:56:34.660 --> 01:56:38.500]  And I said, no, no, I'm just sent you down this road if I scratch this new avalanche.
[01:56:38.500 --> 01:56:40.060]  Mama, I have my hide.
[01:56:40.060 --> 01:56:46.740]  And he said, well, I just wanted to see if you needed any help, and he went on.
[01:56:46.740 --> 01:56:52.140]  I called his sergeant, they all know me really well down here, and told him where I was at.
[01:56:52.140 --> 01:56:56.060]  I want to know who that officer was that was out there just south of the board this morning.
[01:56:56.060 --> 01:56:58.940]  He said, well, why, Mr. Cuffin, what's the problem?
[01:56:58.940 --> 01:57:01.060]  Oh, no problem.
[01:57:01.060 --> 01:57:08.860]  That is the first time a DPS officer stopped me for the singular purpose of offering me
[01:57:08.860 --> 01:57:10.740]  assistance.
[01:57:10.740 --> 01:57:16.780]  And I wanted you to know, and I wanted him to know, how much I appreciated that he didn't
[01:57:16.780 --> 01:57:21.860]  use it as an opportunity to jerk me around and do his song and dance.
[01:57:21.860 --> 01:57:22.860]  Exactly.
[01:57:22.860 --> 01:57:27.740]  Three years later, I walked into the JP's office, and there was a whole bunch of DPS
[01:57:27.740 --> 01:57:28.740]  officers there.
[01:57:28.740 --> 01:57:31.740]  This big tall guy said, well, hello, Mr. Kelton.
[01:57:31.740 --> 01:57:35.820]  I looked up at him, and he said, you don't remember me, do you?
[01:57:35.820 --> 01:57:38.820]  I said, did you arrest me?
[01:57:38.820 --> 01:57:40.500]  Did two of you of these others do me?
[01:57:40.500 --> 01:57:41.500]  I said, I have.
[01:57:41.500 --> 01:57:48.500]  And he said, no, Mr. Kelton, I'm the one that stopped out there that day to see if you needed
[01:57:48.500 --> 01:57:49.500]  help.
[01:57:49.500 --> 01:57:55.260]  Three years later, he knew exactly who I was, and this happened and has gone a long way
[01:57:55.260 --> 01:57:56.260]  for him.
[01:57:56.260 --> 01:57:57.260]  Yep.
[01:57:57.260 --> 01:58:03.380]  We really need to do that, because I agree with you, most of these guys really are good
[01:58:03.380 --> 01:58:04.380]  guys.
[01:58:04.380 --> 01:58:11.060]  And we come in and grind, all they hear is the grinding, they don't hear the good side.
[01:58:11.060 --> 01:58:14.060]  And I appreciate that you brought that up, Kamily.
[01:58:14.060 --> 01:58:19.700]  But listen, that gives your criticism so much more credibility.
[01:58:19.700 --> 01:58:20.700]  Go ahead.
[01:58:20.700 --> 01:58:21.700]  We've got 30 seconds.
[01:58:21.700 --> 01:58:22.700]  Well, I just wanted to say thank you.
[01:58:22.700 --> 01:58:27.820]  I mean, this is an important and great show tonight, and thank you for expounding on the
[01:58:27.820 --> 01:58:28.820]  Grand Jury.
[01:58:28.820 --> 01:58:31.820]  That's the best subject that y'all cover, in my opinion.
[01:58:31.820 --> 01:58:32.820]  Okay.
[01:58:32.820 --> 01:58:33.820]  Thanks, Beach.
[01:58:33.820 --> 01:58:34.820]  Okay.
[01:58:34.820 --> 01:58:40.820]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, and we'll be back tomorrow with our four-hour
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