[00:00.000 --> 00:07.000] This is the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist updates. [00:07.000 --> 00:09.000] Online at thelibertybeat.com. [00:09.000 --> 00:14.000] I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Wednesday, February 12, 2014. [00:14.000 --> 00:17.000] Gold opened today at $1,291. [00:17.000 --> 00:19.000] Silver opened at $20.24. [00:19.000 --> 00:23.000] And Bitcoin is trading at $659.11. [00:23.000 --> 00:26.000] Today's Bitcoin price, sponsored by Cash into Coins, [00:26.000 --> 00:32.000] the United States' largest cash-for-Bitcoin service. Online at CashintoCoins.com. [00:32.000 --> 00:35.000] Support for the Liberty Beat comes from CloudHashing.com, [00:35.000 --> 00:39.000] the simplest and most convenient way to mine Bitcoins. [00:39.000 --> 00:41.000] No technical expertise is needed. [00:41.000 --> 00:45.000] Learn more or sign up today at CloudHashing.com. 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[02:12.000 --> 02:15.000] Reuters reports a request to a federal judge will be made Wednesday [02:15.000 --> 02:21.000] with the attorneys seeking a continuance until September of next year in order to prepare for trial. [02:21.000 --> 02:25.000] Support for Liberty Beat comes from Dorothy Erminger at Cap Star Lending. [02:25.000 --> 02:28.000] Dorothy can walk you through the ins and outs of buying a home. [02:28.000 --> 02:39.000] Call her at 512-343-6494 or apply online at calledorothy.com, NMLS number 216624. [02:39.000 --> 02:46.000] Support also comes from My Magic Mud, available at Brave New Books or online at mymagicmud.com. [02:46.000 --> 02:51.000] And from Brave New Books, online at bravenewbookstore.com. [02:51.000 --> 02:56.000] This is the Liberty Beat for Wednesday, February 12, 2014. [02:56.000 --> 03:09.000] Check out the website at thelibertybeat.com. [03:27.000 --> 03:30.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:30.000 --> 03:32.000] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:32.000 --> 03:35.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:35.000 --> 03:38.000] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:38.000 --> 03:41.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits [03:41.000 --> 03:43.000] You'd go to school and learn the golden rule [03:43.000 --> 03:46.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool? [03:46.000 --> 03:49.000] If you get hot then you must get cool [03:49.000 --> 03:52.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:52.000 --> 03:54.000] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:54.000 --> 03:57.000] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? [03:57.000 --> 04:00.000] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:00.000 --> 04:03.000] You took it on that one, you took it on this one [04:03.000 --> 04:05.000] You took it on your mother and you took it on your father [04:05.000 --> 04:32.000] You took it on your mother and you took it on your father [04:35.000 --> 04:39.000] We have Sharon Wilson, she's an ex-judge [04:39.000 --> 04:45.000] And is running for district attorney in Tarrant County [04:45.000 --> 04:49.000] Now, I talk to a lot of lawyers [04:49.000 --> 04:57.000] And for the most part, I find them very full of themselves [04:57.000 --> 05:01.000] And they tend to consider themselves sort of an elite class [05:01.000 --> 05:06.000] And they consider the rest of us civilians [05:06.000 --> 05:13.000] Or just local chumps that don't know which end is up [05:13.000 --> 05:19.000] I talked to Sharon and was very pleased with her [05:19.000 --> 05:21.000] Her style and demeanor [05:21.000 --> 05:25.000] There are things about yourself you can't hide [05:25.000 --> 05:28.000] And she came across very well [05:28.000 --> 05:30.000] We bring her up on the bridge [05:30.000 --> 05:32.000] Being screened right now, getting set up [05:32.000 --> 05:34.000] And as soon as she comes in [05:34.000 --> 05:38.000] I'm gonna want her to talk to you about [05:38.000 --> 05:40.000] The office she's running for [05:40.000 --> 05:47.000] And what she can do to make this better [05:47.000 --> 05:50.000] Things are changing out here in the legal community that I'm living in [05:50.000 --> 05:55.000] I just had a really big win today [05:55.000 --> 06:01.000] Because the things I've been talking to people about doing [06:01.000 --> 06:05.000] One of the things is never ask a public official to do anything you actually want them to do [06:05.000 --> 06:09.000] Well, I've been practicing that with some of these JPs [06:09.000 --> 06:15.000] And it seems to be, they seem to be getting the idea [06:15.000 --> 06:21.000] They see the pro se come in and they think he's just an annoying chump [06:21.000 --> 06:27.000] But then once you handle them well, once you handle yourself well [06:27.000 --> 06:31.000] They begin to realize that maybe you're the real deal [06:31.000 --> 06:39.000] And today we've actually got rulings in our favor [06:39.000 --> 06:44.000] In a JP court and that's something that seldom happens [06:44.000 --> 06:54.000] Because I kind of understand that the JP's, especially this was an eviction hearing over a property we were helping someone with [06:54.000 --> 06:58.000] And they hear these cases over and over and over [06:58.000 --> 07:03.000] And they sit up there and case after case after case after case after case [07:03.000 --> 07:06.000] And all the same thing [07:06.000 --> 07:12.000] Someone can't pay their bills and they tell the judge about all the problems they have and why they can't pay their bills [07:12.000 --> 07:17.000] Hoping the judge will grant them some slack [07:17.000 --> 07:24.000] Not understanding that the judge is bound by the laws that apply [07:24.000 --> 07:31.000] And the judge after hearing these same stories several hundred times [07:31.000 --> 07:39.000] It kind of gets to where they just really don't hear the pathos anymore [07:39.000 --> 07:46.000] And they seem difficult and standoffish and rusk [07:46.000 --> 07:54.000] And I suspect that a lot of it is a defense against the misery they have to deal with every day [07:54.000 --> 08:00.000] With that said, I don't like it [08:00.000 --> 08:04.000] Just because I kind of understand it [08:04.000 --> 08:08.000] I don't like it and I don't tolerate it well [08:08.000 --> 08:15.000] And we've been, actually we've technically been setting these judges up [08:15.000 --> 08:19.000] So that we could get a shot at them [08:19.000 --> 08:22.000] And they're beginning to realize that we're doing that [08:22.000 --> 08:33.000] The main thing they're beginning to realize is that we're a step or so ahead of them [08:33.000 --> 08:38.000] Hang on, Justice [08:38.000 --> 08:43.000] Okay, hang on, this is my guest, we're having a little trouble bringing her up [08:43.000 --> 08:49.000] Hello Sharon, are you having trouble getting in? [08:49.000 --> 08:55.000] Okay, call back in, he was supposed to be screening you, you still show on my caller board [08:55.000 --> 09:00.000] But the producer may be having a little difficulty [09:00.000 --> 09:08.000] Okay, thank you, sorry about that, we're having a minor technical difficulty here getting Sharon up on the board [09:08.000 --> 09:15.000] She's been out campaigning and she just pulled her car over to the side of the road [09:15.000 --> 09:18.000] And called on her cell phone so she could come on the air [09:18.000 --> 09:25.000] So I especially appreciated that, but we seem to be having a little bit of a problem getting her up on the bridge [09:25.000 --> 09:32.000] I am, at the moment I'm not in Austin, I'm living up near Fort Worth [09:32.000 --> 09:42.000] And there are quite a few groups up here who are trying to do something about the court system [09:42.000 --> 09:54.000] And I just met with a group last Sunday and did a seminar for some people that were engaged in family law issues [09:54.000 --> 09:59.000] Family law is a problem everywhere I go [09:59.000 --> 10:04.000] But even when I went to Australia that was the main reason they wanted me to come there [10:04.000 --> 10:11.000] To see if I could help them find a way to do something about the family law courts [10:11.000 --> 10:23.000] Okay, I'm getting some background noise, Chris do we have Sharon up yet? [10:23.000 --> 10:31.000] Hello Sharon, she just dropped off my bridge [10:31.000 --> 10:36.000] Okay, looks like she's not quite up, we're still having a little difficulty [10:36.000 --> 10:43.000] But we'll bring her in as soon as we can get her up and online [10:43.000 --> 10:47.000] Okay there she is, Sharon are you there? [10:47.000 --> 10:49.000] Yes I am [10:49.000 --> 10:51.000] Oh wonderful, fine [10:51.000 --> 10:56.000] Okay, I apologize for the technical difficulty [10:56.000 --> 11:03.000] Folks this is Sharon Wilson, she is running for Tarrant County District Attorney [11:03.000 --> 11:17.000] And Sharon will you kind of give us an idea of what you will do if we can get you elected as the Tarrant County District Attorney? [11:17.000 --> 11:25.000] You know I think that the best way to talk about what I'm going to do is to have a look at what I have done [11:25.000 --> 11:32.000] And for the last 23 years I was one of the judges here in Tarrant County in a criminal district court [11:32.000 --> 11:35.000] Which handled adult felony cases [11:35.000 --> 11:42.000] And the things that were important to me were that we work as hard as we can [11:42.000 --> 11:51.000] The American Bar Association for Criminal Cases actually says that every criminal case should be disposed of in a calendar year [11:51.000 --> 11:59.000] And that just makes sense because we don't want people with charges hanging over their heads for longer than necessary [11:59.000 --> 12:02.000] And cases don't get any better as they get older [12:02.000 --> 12:07.000] So it's better for victims, it's better for defendants, it's just a better system [12:07.000 --> 12:11.000] And so we work to try to manage that docket system [12:11.000 --> 12:15.000] My court always had the smallest backlog of pending cases [12:15.000 --> 12:21.000] We typically finished our cases in the standard of one calendar year [12:21.000 --> 12:31.000] I always had the lowest budget because it doesn't take extra tax dollars just to work harder during the day [12:31.000 --> 12:43.000] And we also were very transparent about the work that we did because the judges developed a system so that anyone could log on [12:43.000 --> 12:54.000] And see how many pending cases each judge has, how old those cases are, how many of them are probation cases, revocations or new cases [12:54.000 --> 12:58.000] So that the public could actually see what the judges are doing [12:58.000 --> 13:14.000] And those things, those issues, transparency, fiscal restraint and hard work are the goals that I have for the DA's office [13:14.000 --> 13:21.000] Well, you apparently have a lot of experience with the prosecutor's office [13:21.000 --> 13:29.000] As a prosecutor, how will you handle cases as they come through? [13:29.000 --> 13:39.000] Our listeners here primarily are concerned with legal reform and concerned with legal issues, civil and criminal both [13:39.000 --> 13:49.000] But we do get a lot of people who are concerned about how the criminal justice system moves people through the system [13:49.000 --> 14:07.000] As the prosecutor for Turner County, how would you or what in your opinion would be some things you could do to give people in the system more confidence that they're being treated fairly? [14:07.000 --> 14:19.000] You know, my most recent experience has been as a judge, but I was a prosecutor before and I actually did some criminal defense before I became a judge [14:19.000 --> 14:24.000] And I am very aware because I had clients who were charged with crimes [14:24.000 --> 14:34.000] How important it is that a person who's charged with a crime and their family understands what's going on in the criminal justice system [14:34.000 --> 14:47.000] As the district attorney, one of the things that I see that needs to be improved is a greater use of our court program that we have in Tarrant County [14:47.000 --> 15:01.000] And Tarrant County is kind of a leader in diversion type programs so that a person who is charged with a crime could go through a treatment program [15:01.000 --> 15:06.000] And not have a criminal conviction if they successfully completed it [15:06.000 --> 15:11.000] And we have many options within our court system in Tarrant County [15:11.000 --> 15:26.000] We have a mental health court, domestic violence, veterans court, we have a prostitution court, we've got drug court, BWI court, we've got courts in the diversion programs in the juvenile court [15:26.000 --> 15:42.000] All of those court programs have as a basic tenet of the program that the person, the defendant, enter into the program early, very soon after his arrest or charge [15:42.000 --> 15:51.000] If we could move those defendants who are identified as sitting these programs, if we could move them in more quickly [15:51.000 --> 16:00.000] I think that it benefits the person who is charged with a crime, but it also benefits the entire criminal justice system [16:00.000 --> 16:08.000] Because those people who don't really need to be incarcerated will be out of the system [16:08.000 --> 16:17.000] That is one of the, the people that don't need to be incarcerated, that has been one of our pet issues [16:17.000 --> 16:26.000] That so many people, you know, when I was growing up, I grew up in a rural area in Tennessee [16:26.000 --> 16:33.000] We knew all the policemen, and we knew the sheriff, we knew most of the deputies, they all knew us [16:33.000 --> 16:41.000] And they tended to act almost like surrogate fathers, most of the time when we did things that kids normally do [16:41.000 --> 16:49.000] We didn't get arrested, we might have got a good talking to and taking home to our dads, but they paid attention to the people they dealt with [16:49.000 --> 17:00.000] Hang on, I'd like to go back to this, when we come back on the other side, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio, our calling number, 512-646-1984 [17:00.000 --> 17:06.000] Through advances in technology, our lives have greatly improved, except in the area of nutrition [17:06.000 --> 17:11.000] People feed their pets better than they feed themselves, and it's time we changed all that [17:11.000 --> 17:17.000] Our primary defense against aging and disease in this toxic environment is good nutrition [17:17.000 --> 17:25.000] In a world where natural foods have been irradiated, adulterated, and mutilated, Young Jevity can provide the nutrients you need [17:25.000 --> 17:31.000] Logos Radio Network gets many requests to endorse all sorts of products, most of which we reject [17:31.000 --> 17:39.000] We have come to trust Young Jevity so much, we became a marketing distributor along with Alex Jones, Ben Fuchs, and many others [17:39.000 --> 17:47.000] When you order from LogosRadioNetwork.com, your health will improve as you help support quality radio [17:47.000 --> 17:51.000] As you realize the benefits of Young Jevity, you may want to join us [17:51.000 --> 17:58.000] As a distributor, you can experience improved health, help your friends and family, and increase your income [17:58.000 --> 18:00.000] Order now [18:00.000 --> 18:05.000] Are you being harassed by debt collectors with phone calls, letters, or even lawsuits? 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Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Deborah has got the night off. [19:45.000 --> 19:51.000] We are here with Sharon Wilson, candidate for Tarrant County District Attorney. [19:51.000 --> 19:59.000] And in the last segment, we spoke about some programs that frankly I have never heard of some of these. [19:59.000 --> 20:07.000] Can you kind of give us an overview of the different programs and what they're designed to do [20:07.000 --> 20:13.000] And how we would know when someone would qualify for them [20:13.000 --> 20:17.000] We get a lot of callers into the show who not only call for their own issues [20:17.000 --> 20:21.000] But call to try to find a way to help people they know [20:21.000 --> 20:27.000] And I would like them to understand how to know when to look for one of these programs [20:27.000 --> 20:33.000] Okay, of course typically if a person is charged with a crime [20:33.000 --> 20:37.000] Their lawyer would be advising them about these options [20:37.000 --> 20:42.000] But if a person is in Tarrant County and they're charged with offense [20:42.000 --> 20:49.000] Well, anybody can go online at TarrantCounty.com and go to the criminal court section [20:49.000 --> 20:54.000] And you'll actually see some of our programs that are listed there [20:54.000 --> 21:00.000] The mental health program is supervised by Judge Brent Carr [21:00.000 --> 21:03.000] And he also does the veteran's court program [21:03.000 --> 21:05.000] Which they're kind of interrelated [21:05.000 --> 21:09.000] He also does the prostitution program [21:09.000 --> 21:17.000] And the whole point of all of those is that the underlying conduct is a result of some kind of mental illness [21:17.000 --> 21:21.000] And because of that, that person, because of the mental illness [21:21.000 --> 21:26.000] That person is not best served by being incarcerated [21:26.000 --> 21:33.000] Sitting in a jail or even in a penitentiary unless that's a very violent crime of some kind [21:33.000 --> 21:41.000] And so the idea is to get these people, and they actually come see the judge on a regular basis [21:41.000 --> 21:43.000] Weekly, bi-weekly [21:43.000 --> 21:51.000] They're ordered to take their medicine and they are supervised with a goal of trying to make sure [21:51.000 --> 21:56.000] That they get treatment so that they no longer [21:56.000 --> 22:02.000] And when they complete these supervision programs, they would not have a criminal conviction [22:02.000 --> 22:04.000] Which is a huge benefit [22:04.000 --> 22:06.000] That is a huge benefit [22:06.000 --> 22:12.000] Yeah, and it makes sense that people like the mentally ill or veterans [22:12.000 --> 22:18.000] Which is actually a state statute in Texas now, although Tarrant County had one of the first veterans programs [22:18.000 --> 22:24.000] The whole idea is that because of their characteristics of that person [22:24.000 --> 22:27.000] Either their mental health or their service to our country [22:27.000 --> 22:32.000] There is some reason that they should not have a conviction for this conduct [22:32.000 --> 22:35.000] If the conduct is addressed [22:35.000 --> 22:41.000] Judge Jamie Cummings has one of the other criminal misdemeanor courts [22:41.000 --> 22:45.000] And she has the domestic violence program [22:45.000 --> 22:51.000] And you know, the rules now are that if the police get called to a home [22:51.000 --> 22:54.000] And there has been some kind of domestic violence [22:54.000 --> 22:57.000] That typically someone gets arrested [22:57.000 --> 23:02.000] You know, the police are not going to leave everybody in the home and say, y'all work this out [23:02.000 --> 23:08.000] Because there's been a call because of, you know, some kind of violence [23:08.000 --> 23:16.000] And so Judge Cummings runs a court program that actually puts the batterer [23:16.000 --> 23:21.000] Or the person charged with the violence through a treatment program [23:21.000 --> 23:28.000] And based on how they do in that program, the charge can end up being dismissed [23:28.000 --> 23:31.000] These are huge benefits [23:31.000 --> 23:41.000] Have you found that program to lower the incident of spousal abuse? [23:41.000 --> 23:44.000] I know a number of policemen [23:44.000 --> 23:48.000] And all of them, when I ask them what's the worst kind of call they ever go on [23:48.000 --> 23:51.000] They always say, domestic violence [23:51.000 --> 23:53.000] Absolutely [23:53.000 --> 23:56.000] And I'm glad to hear that there are programs [23:56.000 --> 23:59.000] You know, we get people, we get calls on this [23:59.000 --> 24:03.000] A lot where people have been arrested over domestic violence [24:03.000 --> 24:07.000] And it's kind of, it's hard for them to understand sometimes when [24:07.000 --> 24:11.000] They call the police and the police always arrest one of them [24:11.000 --> 24:16.000] And they don't understand that if the police don't arrest one of them [24:16.000 --> 24:20.000] And the situation escalates again [24:20.000 --> 24:24.000] Everybody's going to say to the police, well, why didn't you do something? [24:24.000 --> 24:26.000] Exactly [24:26.000 --> 24:30.000] I'm glad to see that we have some programs here [24:30.000 --> 24:33.000] I'm most intrigued by a veterans program [24:33.000 --> 24:35.000] I'm a Vietnam veteran [24:35.000 --> 24:39.000] We kind of felt left out [24:39.000 --> 24:45.000] But being a combat veteran, there was something I came to understand [24:45.000 --> 24:50.000] I'm very upset at Bush for getting us back into a war [24:50.000 --> 24:53.000] And turning our children into combat veterans [24:53.000 --> 25:00.000] I was hoping that I would be amongst the last combat veterans this country ever saw [25:00.000 --> 25:07.000] Because when I came back, I came home and all the people I knew and missed [25:07.000 --> 25:09.000] They were all there [25:09.000 --> 25:12.000] All the places were the same [25:12.000 --> 25:18.000] But something was just terribly, terribly wrong [25:18.000 --> 25:21.000] I was home for six months and went in to work one day [25:21.000 --> 25:26.000] And took my tools and put them in the trunk of my car at the time I was in Chicago [25:26.000 --> 25:31.000] And went home and loaded up my clothes, started driving south [25:31.000 --> 25:37.000] And when I got to Key West, I was annoyed that I had run out of road [25:37.000 --> 25:47.000] I didn't know what it was, but somehow did not feel like I was far enough away [25:47.000 --> 25:51.000] I don't think the psychologists really understand what that is [25:51.000 --> 25:53.000] I know I certainly didn't [25:53.000 --> 25:59.000] But I see these children coming back from combat [25:59.000 --> 26:02.000] And I look them in the eyes and I see that empty place [26:02.000 --> 26:05.000] That same empty place that I felt [26:05.000 --> 26:09.000] I'm now a thousand miles away from all of my family [26:09.000 --> 26:12.000] It's only been 40 years [26:12.000 --> 26:15.000] This is a very difficult issue [26:15.000 --> 26:23.000] And I am most pleased to see that there is a program for our children returning from combat [26:23.000 --> 26:26.000] I always warn the parents and the wives [26:26.000 --> 26:32.000] When he comes back, be very, very tolerant and understanding [26:32.000 --> 26:35.000] He will not be the person he was when he left [26:35.000 --> 26:39.000] I don't think there's any way for them to be the people they are before they leave the U [26:39.000 --> 26:42.000] After what they go through in combat [26:42.000 --> 26:47.000] And I think it's appropriate courts recognize that [26:47.000 --> 26:54.000] And the hardest part is they themselves don't realize that something's broken [26:54.000 --> 27:00.000] And of the things we needed the most when I came back was [27:00.000 --> 27:05.000] Was someone to look at me and say, yes, we accept you [27:05.000 --> 27:10.000] We don't necessarily agree with what you had to go do, but we accept you [27:10.000 --> 27:15.000] I am very glad to see that our veterans now are accepted back [27:15.000 --> 27:21.000] But also to realize that we're not the same person [27:21.000 --> 27:25.000] And there are things that could be broke [27:25.000 --> 27:32.000] They had me go to a screening for PSTD [27:32.000 --> 27:39.000] Because I was at a meeting of several heads of different veterans groups [27:39.000 --> 27:42.000] And the head of the disabled vets [27:42.000 --> 27:45.000] They were sitting all talking and I was at another table [27:45.000 --> 27:52.000] And he looked over at me and he said, being around vets makes you nervous, doesn't it? [27:52.000 --> 27:56.000] And I was kind of astounded that he knew that [27:56.000 --> 27:59.000] And I said, well, yes, as a matter of fact, it does [27:59.000 --> 28:05.000] Apparently that was a symptom that I didn't know anything about that [28:05.000 --> 28:08.000] And they sent me to get examined [28:08.000 --> 28:12.000] I came back and told my wife that you are not going to like this [28:12.000 --> 28:15.000] My wife and my son were there [28:15.000 --> 28:22.000] I said, I was examined by the psychiatrist and he certified me sane [28:22.000 --> 28:27.000] My wife and son jumped up, he's going to be out of his mind [28:27.000 --> 28:28.000] That's great [28:28.000 --> 28:31.000] I get no respect [28:31.000 --> 28:36.000] But I didn't realize that I've got broken things [28:36.000 --> 28:38.000] I still have broken things [28:38.000 --> 28:44.000] I absolutely could not be more pleased if we have a veterans program [28:44.000 --> 28:48.000] And the juvenile program [28:48.000 --> 28:55.000] Oh, you said that these programs, they leave the participants with no criminal history [28:55.000 --> 28:59.000] For the most part [28:59.000 --> 29:00.000] I'm sorry, go ahead [29:00.000 --> 29:02.000] I'm sorry, for the most part that is true [29:02.000 --> 29:10.000] Some of the programs like the DWI court program does involve a conviction [29:10.000 --> 29:15.000] You won't get an objection from me over that [29:15.000 --> 29:21.000] We have a few callers who call in and they're really against the DUI program [29:21.000 --> 29:23.000] I for one am not [29:23.000 --> 29:27.000] And that I think there should be [29:27.000 --> 29:30.000] I was prosecuted a number of years ago [29:30.000 --> 29:36.000] A policeman caved in a few ribs and charged me to cover up what he did [29:36.000 --> 29:39.000] And they brought on a witness [29:39.000 --> 29:45.000] And when I got the witness, I asked him how many DUIs he had [29:45.000 --> 29:48.000] He had 10 [29:48.000 --> 29:50.000] And he was still on the street [29:50.000 --> 29:52.000] But this was back in 92 [29:52.000 --> 29:55.000] I'm glad to see we're not so taller of that anymore [29:55.000 --> 30:00.000] This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, we'll be right back [30:00.000 --> 30:03.000] Mmm, chocolate [30:03.000 --> 30:07.000] It's decadent and delicious and small amounts can be good for your health [30:07.000 --> 30:12.000] But now chocoholics may have an even better excuse to indulge improved math skills [30:12.000 --> 30:16.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll have the sweet scoop in a moment [30:16.000 --> 30:18.000] Privacy is under attack [30:18.000 --> 30:21.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again [30:21.000 --> 30:26.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too [30:26.000 --> 30:32.000] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself [30:32.000 --> 30:34.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to [30:34.000 --> 30:37.000] This message is brought to you by StartPage.com [30:37.000 --> 30:41.000] The private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo and Bing [30:41.000 --> 30:45.000] Start over with StartPage [30:45.000 --> 30:47.000] Chocolate isn't just a sweet treat [30:47.000 --> 30:51.000] In small amounts it has anti-cancer properties and keeps the heart healthy [30:51.000 --> 30:56.000] But a new study shows that eating chocolate may also make mental arithmetic easier [30:56.000 --> 30:59.000] And keep the brain from getting tired when you're doing it [30:59.000 --> 31:02.000] Volunteers were asked to count backwards by threes [31:02.000 --> 31:06.000] From a random number between 800 and a thousand, egads [31:06.000 --> 31:09.000] Then they drank hot chocolate with large amounts of flavonols [31:09.000 --> 31:11.000] Compounds that increase blood flow to the brain [31:11.000 --> 31:15.000] After drinking it, they calculated more quickly and accurately [31:15.000 --> 31:17.000] And they didn't feel as mentally drained [31:17.000 --> 31:20.000] The catch? 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[32:10.000 --> 32:14.000] If so, you may be diagnosed with the deadliest disease known today, stupidity [32:14.000 --> 32:16.000] Hi, my name is Steve Holt [32:16.000 --> 32:21.000] And like millions of other Americans, I was diagnosed with stupidity at an early age [32:21.000 --> 32:27.000] I had no idea that the number one cause of the disease is found in almost every home in America, the television [32:27.000 --> 32:32.000] Unfortunately, that puts most Americans at risk of catching stupidity, but there is hope [32:32.000 --> 32:38.000] The staff at Brave New Books have helped me and thousands of other foxaholics suffering from sports-zombieism recover [32:38.000 --> 32:45.000] And because of Brave New Books, I now enjoy reading and watching educational documentaries without feeling tired or uninterested [32:45.000 --> 32:52.000] So if you or anybody you know suffers from stupidity, then you need to call 512-480-2503 [32:52.000 --> 32:56.000] Or visit them in 1904 Guadalupe or bravenewbookstore.com [32:56.000 --> 33:00.000] Side effects from using Brave New Books products may include discernment and enlarged vocabulary [33:00.000 --> 33:08.000] and overall increase in mental functioning [33:30.000 --> 33:48.000] Okay, we are back, Brenda Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio, here with Sharon Wilson, candidate for district attorney in Tarrant County [33:48.000 --> 33:56.000] And, moving on out, we were talking about these programs, can you tell me a little more about the DUI program? [33:56.000 --> 34:03.000] Yes, Tarrant County has a felony driving law intoxicated program [34:03.000 --> 34:15.000] And I was actually the founding judge of that program, and it is a response to kind of our tougher laws in Texas dealing with DWI [34:15.000 --> 34:23.000] And, you know, as the laws, as we have tightened the punishment, made the punishment stiffer for each DWI conviction [34:23.000 --> 34:33.000] More and more defendants on their first DWI will just take, you know, their two days in jail and go on about their business [34:33.000 --> 34:40.000] And never have any kind of treatment, never think about, you know, maybe I have a problem with drinking [34:40.000 --> 34:49.000] They just take their jail time and go on, they've had to pay for their license fees and their attorney fees, and it's just less expensive [34:49.000 --> 34:57.000] And then, because they haven't addressed any of those issues, and most of them, let me just suggest, always think they're just very unlucky [34:57.000 --> 35:04.000] And then they get their second DWI, and, you know, they know lots of people that drink more than they do, and they don't have a problem [35:04.000 --> 35:12.000] And they take, you know, a couple more days in jail, and then they get their third one, and all of a sudden in Texas, that's a felony [35:12.000 --> 35:24.000] Two to ten years in the penitentiary for a probated sentence, and that is a very serious crime, and the punishment is significant [35:24.000 --> 35:33.000] And a lot of people just take the penitentiary time, because the penitentiary doesn't keep people very long on a DWI charge [35:33.000 --> 35:41.000] But they never address the underlying issue, which for them, not for everybody, but for them, is their inability to handle their alcohol [35:41.000 --> 35:47.000] Lots of people can, but this group of people that's continuing to get DWIs cannot [35:47.000 --> 35:59.000] So in Tarrant County, with the supervision, really, of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, which supports post-conviction probation [35:59.000 --> 36:09.000] In Tarrant County, we started taking multiple offense DWI offenders and putting them on a very aggressive probation [36:09.000 --> 36:18.000] And as part of that probation, they came to court every single week, they saw their probation officer every single week [36:18.000 --> 36:29.000] They went to AA and had to get a sponsor and had to work steps, they went to counseling, and they always had a person that we called a partner in recovery [36:29.000 --> 36:38.000] Because for every alcoholic out there, it seemed like there was a family member, a friend, somebody that really wanted them to be sober [36:38.000 --> 36:47.000] And was willing to help them, drive them around, take them to meetings, because by this time they've lost their licenses because of their conviction [36:47.000 --> 36:56.000] That program right now has a 90% success rate. It's the single most successful program in Tarrant County [36:56.000 --> 37:04.000] And it's because after working with these people, helping them get sober, they start working, living their lives [37:04.000 --> 37:13.000] And are able to actually turn around their behavior so that they're not a danger to society anymore because of their conduct [37:13.000 --> 37:16.000] It's a great program [37:16.000 --> 37:19.000] That is wonderful, 90% [37:19.000 --> 37:26.000] 90%, I mean that's just amazingly successful, there aren't any other programs that reach that level of success [37:26.000 --> 37:33.000] And when I left the bench, one of our other judges who'd also been working with the program has continued it [37:33.000 --> 37:40.000] And it's just a great program, but it takes people with multiple offenses, the guys [37:40.000 --> 37:49.000] And typically that group of people has never sat down and said, maybe the problem is my drinking [37:49.000 --> 38:01.000] My experience with drinking, especially people who drink to excess, is they always consider their drinking natural and normal [38:01.000 --> 38:07.000] Whenever I'm around someone and they offer me a beer and I don't accept it [38:07.000 --> 38:21.000] And they get nervous or uncomfortable and press for me to drink with them, that's always an incredible red flag [38:21.000 --> 38:25.000] And nobody ever addresses it in our culture, it seems like [38:25.000 --> 38:32.000] It's almost as if to tell someone that they have a drinking problem is taboo [38:32.000 --> 38:35.000] And I am very pleased to see a program of this nature [38:35.000 --> 38:39.000] There is one thing I would like to address for everybody listening that I should [38:39.000 --> 38:45.000] I know a lot of people out there are saying, how on earth can they force somebody to go in one of these aggressive programs [38:45.000 --> 38:57.000] And I'm sure that this is an option that the court offers someone in lieu of something worse, is that how this works, Sharon? [38:57.000 --> 39:04.000] You know, that was always one of the initial things is why would anybody take an aggressive probation? [39:04.000 --> 39:08.000] Well, the alternative is two to ten years in the penitentiary, right? [39:08.000 --> 39:16.000] And because it is such an aggressive probation, it is a shorter term of probation [39:16.000 --> 39:25.000] So that the person actually is only on probation for four years, four years, instead of ten or a longer term [39:25.000 --> 39:30.000] And so that's a benefit to the person, to the defendant [39:30.000 --> 39:37.000] And because it's a shorter term, it's much less expensive because you're not paying those monthly probation fees for all that time [39:37.000 --> 39:45.000] And, you know, a lot of our treatment hinges on AA just because it's such an effective treatment [39:45.000 --> 39:47.000] And there's no charge for that [39:47.000 --> 39:51.000] So it's a very cost-effective program [39:51.000 --> 39:58.000] And I think that just because it's been so successful, you know, people actually want to take this program [39:58.000 --> 40:07.000] Okay, I'm astounded at the kind of success you're getting, but we're going to run short of time [40:07.000 --> 40:11.000] Can you tell people how to find you and when to vote and where to vote? [40:11.000 --> 40:14.000] Yes, so of course I'm running for office [40:14.000 --> 40:19.000] And I have a website, it's SharonWilson.com [40:19.000 --> 40:25.000] And my name is spelled F-H-A-R-E-N and WilsonTheNormalWay.com [40:25.000 --> 40:34.000] And the election date is March 4th, but early voting starts next week on Tuesday in Texas [40:34.000 --> 40:37.000] Early voting is the 18th through the 28th [40:37.000 --> 40:41.000] And so obviously I'd love for people to go to the polls [40:41.000 --> 40:50.000] Everybody needs to vote no matter who you vote for because it's our only chance to make a difference in what goes on in our society [40:50.000 --> 40:57.000] So early voting starts on Tuesday and the final election day is March 4th [40:57.000 --> 41:00.000] Yes, wonderful. Everybody vote [41:00.000 --> 41:10.000] This is one of the great powers that our founders gave us to control our public officials, our servants [41:10.000 --> 41:15.000] And if we don't want to exercise that, don't complain [41:15.000 --> 41:21.000] Go ahead Sharon, I interrupted you [41:21.000 --> 41:23.000] No, I agree, I agree [41:23.000 --> 41:24.000] I was laughing when you said don't complain [41:24.000 --> 41:26.000] Of course we're going to complain [41:26.000 --> 41:32.000] But our complaints have a little more merit to them when we've actually gone out and figured out who we want to vote for [41:32.000 --> 41:37.000] Learn about the candidates and make that informed vote [41:37.000 --> 41:45.000] Yes, and it's important that people understand how powerful the vote is and how powerful you are as a voter [41:45.000 --> 41:52.000] I talked to my prosecuting attorney recently and he's concerned about that [41:52.000 --> 41:58.000] Because he says, you know, I have to figure that every person that I prosecute [41:58.000 --> 42:07.000] If I don't do it in such a way that he's not terribly angry at me or doesn't feel terribly mistreated [42:07.000 --> 42:10.000] I can count 15 votes [42:10.000 --> 42:13.000] Him and his extended family are not going to vote for me [42:13.000 --> 42:17.000] So that gives me a reason to do my job well [42:17.000 --> 42:21.000] So everybody vote, let everybody know how important it is [42:21.000 --> 42:25.000] You've got one more minute Sharon, you want to just give us a closing? [42:25.000 --> 42:29.000] You know, I'm standing for election in the Republican primary [42:29.000 --> 42:30.000] I do have opponents [42:30.000 --> 42:35.000] I would appreciate everyone finding out about me, finding out about the opponent [42:35.000 --> 42:39.000] And let me encourage anyone who's charged with a crime in Tarrant County [42:39.000 --> 42:45.000] You're going to have a lawyer who's going to give you advice that you can find things out on your own by going to [42:45.000 --> 42:49.000] TarrantCounty.com through the criminal court section [42:49.000 --> 42:54.000] And you'll actually see the different programs in there to find out about them [42:54.000 --> 42:58.000] Wonderful [42:58.000 --> 43:03.000] And I am more than pleased to hear that we have so many programs [43:03.000 --> 43:06.000] Tarrant County has been rather progressive [43:06.000 --> 43:09.000] We have some people working in the family law area [43:09.000 --> 43:15.000] And they have a lot of programs, they have programs in Tarrant County they apparently have nowhere else [43:15.000 --> 43:18.000] So I am glad to hear that we have all of this [43:18.000 --> 43:24.000] And I'm sure looking forward to your getting the vote for Tarrant County District Attorney [43:24.000 --> 43:25.000] Thank you [43:25.000 --> 43:32.000] Thank you for being here and this door is open for you to come back anytime you'd like [43:32.000 --> 43:39.000] If you'd like to address some issues either before or after the election [43:39.000 --> 43:42.000] If there's time before, we'll bring you back again if you'd like to [43:42.000 --> 43:47.000] This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, rule of our radio, our call-in number [43:47.000 --> 43:52.000] 512-646-1984, we'll be taking calls after the break [43:52.000 --> 44:20.000] So everybody hang on, thank you for listening, we'll be right back [44:22.000 --> 44:25.000] Take a peek at some of our other wonderful products including [44:25.000 --> 44:30.000] Our Australian emu oil, lotion candles, olive oil soaps and colloidal silver and gold [44:30.000 --> 44:37.000] Call 512-264-4043 or find us online at naturespureorganics.com [44:37.000 --> 44:43.000] That's 512-264-4043 naturespureorganics.com [44:43.000 --> 44:47.000] Don't forget to like us on Facebook for information on events and our products [44:47.000 --> 45:01.000] naturespureorganics.com [45:01.000 --> 45:04.000] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? 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We're going to Kelton Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio [46:36.000 --> 46:39.000] And we're going to go to the call boards [46:39.000 --> 46:43.000] We're going to Chris in Pennsylvania. Hello, Chris [46:43.000 --> 46:46.000] Hello Randy, how are you? [46:46.000 --> 46:49.000] I am good. What do you have for us today? [46:49.000 --> 46:52.000] How did your mediation go? Oh, that's right, you got [46:52.000 --> 46:54.000] Oh, wait, wait, wait a minute [46:54.000 --> 46:56.000] You got snowed out [46:56.000 --> 46:59.000] We got snowed out. We're still getting snowed out [46:59.000 --> 47:04.000] You know, we're down here in Texas and it was so cold this morning [47:04.000 --> 47:07.000] That I had frost on my windows [47:07.000 --> 47:09.000] That's what I was hearing [47:09.000 --> 47:13.000] They might have closed the schools [47:13.000 --> 47:17.000] Well, they closed our schools for two days now [47:17.000 --> 47:21.000] Well, I grew up in Chicago just south of you [47:21.000 --> 47:26.000] So I can appreciate how nice it is not to have all that snow [47:26.000 --> 47:29.000] How many inches did you get? [47:29.000 --> 47:32.000] We're still getting, we got about two feet right now [47:32.000 --> 47:34.000] And we're getting, still getting more [47:34.000 --> 47:38.000] Oh [47:38.000 --> 47:46.000] I hope never ever to wear out another snow shovel as long as I live [47:46.000 --> 47:49.000] Okay, what was your question for us tonight? [47:49.000 --> 47:52.000] I found an interesting [47:52.000 --> 47:55.000] I was looking up some quiet title [47:55.000 --> 47:58.000] Things that we were talking about in this [47:58.000 --> 48:02.000] And I found online a really interesting documentation [48:02.000 --> 48:05.000] Printed by a gentleman who's a lawyer in Philadelphia [48:05.000 --> 48:09.000] Who gives a training course on quiet titles [48:09.000 --> 48:12.000] And I printed this out and in reading it I was [48:12.000 --> 48:22.000] I had come across the fraudulent conveyance piece of this [48:22.000 --> 48:28.000] Making my point with a quiet title through fraudulent conveyance [48:28.000 --> 48:31.000] In, okay, in Texas [48:31.000 --> 48:36.000] And in most states fraudulent conveyance is a crime [48:36.000 --> 48:38.000] It used to be a crime in Texas [48:38.000 --> 48:43.000] And they changed it from fraudulent conveyance to theft [48:43.000 --> 48:50.000] And they created a special statute in the Civil Torts and Remedies [48:50.000 --> 48:53.000] I think the Torts and Remedies Code, one of the codes [48:53.000 --> 48:59.000] A special fraud statute, a special fraud cause of action for that [48:59.000 --> 49:02.000] For those who don't know fraudulent conveyance [49:02.000 --> 49:07.000] Is not where you actually go steal something from somebody [49:07.000 --> 49:14.000] But where you fraudulently transfer ownership from one party to another [49:14.000 --> 49:19.000] For instance, if I went in and filed a lost title application on your car [49:19.000 --> 49:25.000] And I get a title to it and I sign your name on it and transfer it to me [49:25.000 --> 49:28.000] That would be a fraudulent conveyance [49:28.000 --> 49:33.000] Does that sound like something these guys were doing, Chris? [49:33.000 --> 49:39.000] Yeah, sounds like exactly what they were doing [49:39.000 --> 49:43.000] This is, we look through the county records and these are things to look for [49:43.000 --> 49:51.000] You get a loan and Joe Blow Mortgage Company gives you the loan [49:51.000 --> 49:57.000] And you'll be amazed at how many Joe Blow Mortgage Companies go out of business [49:57.000 --> 50:01.000] When I first started looking at this I was astounded [50:01.000 --> 50:10.000] All these guys during a period in history where people in real estate are making money hand over fist [50:10.000 --> 50:14.000] And all these mortgage companies going out of business [50:14.000 --> 50:18.000] Then I figured it out, it was a tax scam [50:18.000 --> 50:21.000] The banks set up the mortgage company [50:21.000 --> 50:28.000] The mortgage company would sell you the predatory high profit loan [50:28.000 --> 50:33.000] And then sell the loan to the bank at a loss [50:33.000 --> 50:37.000] And the bank would take a loss on all the profit [50:37.000 --> 50:44.000] And then the mortgage company would just bankrupt, go out of business and start another one [50:44.000 --> 50:49.000] Well, you know, that's an issue but not one that I wanted to take on [50:49.000 --> 50:54.000] But it did tell me to look and see if the mortgage company went out of business [50:54.000 --> 51:01.000] Because the mortgage company is generally a corporation or an LLC [51:01.000 --> 51:05.000] Or some type of legal fiction [51:05.000 --> 51:08.000] But under law it is a person [51:08.000 --> 51:13.000] And if the person, if it went out of business then the person died [51:13.000 --> 51:15.000] I have one right now [51:15.000 --> 51:19.000] Southern Star Lending issued the note in 2005 [51:19.000 --> 51:22.000] Southern Star Lending went out of business in 2007 [51:22.000 --> 51:28.000] In 2008, Deutsche Bank comes in and gives a loan modification [51:28.000 --> 51:39.000] And then in 2012, Merz assigns the security instrument from Southern Star to Deutsche Bank [51:39.000 --> 51:43.000] Well, Bubba, how did you manage that? [51:43.000 --> 51:48.000] You had a dead guy hire you as his agent? [51:48.000 --> 51:52.000] Right, it's a good call [51:52.000 --> 51:55.000] I was thinking when you were discussing these earlier [51:55.000 --> 51:59.000] And you were talking with Sharon [51:59.000 --> 52:02.000] And you were discussing the DWI program [52:02.000 --> 52:08.000] I thought they would probably try to incur something along the lines of a DUI program [52:08.000 --> 52:13.000] Bankers under the influence when you look at stuff like that [52:13.000 --> 52:20.000] Well, it is time that we started taking these to local prosecutors [52:20.000 --> 52:24.000] Especially around election time [52:24.000 --> 52:29.000] Because I know the judges, this has to kind of worry them [52:29.000 --> 52:32.000] Not federal judges, they're not elected [52:32.000 --> 52:37.000] But state judges, you know, throwing people out of their houses [52:37.000 --> 52:41.000] And if the person goes before a state judge [52:41.000 --> 52:45.000] And the judge throws him out of his house [52:45.000 --> 52:50.000] And he feels like he was mistreated [52:50.000 --> 52:54.000] And, you know, I can understand the position the judge is in [52:54.000 --> 52:58.000] The pro se individual, he comes before you pro se [52:58.000 --> 53:02.000] Because you don't have any money, he's had enough money to hire a lawyer [53:02.000 --> 53:04.000] He wouldn't be in this spot [53:04.000 --> 53:06.000] So it's kind of a catch-22 [53:06.000 --> 53:08.000] So he comes before you without a lawyer [53:08.000 --> 53:13.000] And he doesn't understand that you as a judge [53:13.000 --> 53:17.000] You have to determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence [53:17.000 --> 53:21.000] Then apply the law and the facts comes to him in order to render a ruling [53:21.000 --> 53:26.000] So a pro se comes in there and they don't know to give him facts [53:26.000 --> 53:32.000] Instead they give him good reasons and compelling arguments [53:32.000 --> 53:35.000] The judge can agree with you 100% [53:35.000 --> 53:37.000] But he has no power to rule for you [53:37.000 --> 53:41.000] So you've got these guys coming in there not giving him what he needs [53:41.000 --> 53:43.000] And he can't give them legal advice [53:43.000 --> 53:46.000] He can't tell them what he needs [53:46.000 --> 53:50.000] And now he's got a rule against them and they're going to be PO'd [53:50.000 --> 53:54.000] And they're going to take 15 votes with them [53:54.000 --> 53:59.000] Well, if you won by 400 or 500 votes in the last election [53:59.000 --> 54:04.000] This guy's going to take 15, that's 30 against you [54:04.000 --> 54:09.000] It's a good chance he's taking 15 from your side and moving it to the other side [54:09.000 --> 54:14.000] It's not going to take you long to run out of votes [54:14.000 --> 54:24.000] So this may be a really good time to start taking on these bankers in the local courts [54:24.000 --> 54:27.000] I'm primarily moving to state courts with suits [54:27.000 --> 54:31.000] But also filing criminal charges against the bankers [54:31.000 --> 54:33.000] Nobody's doing that [54:33.000 --> 54:35.000] I'm setting that up here [54:35.000 --> 54:38.000] I'm going to start filing against these lawyers [54:38.000 --> 54:44.000] And these individuals that are claiming to foreclose for the bank [54:44.000 --> 54:46.000] Take them to grand jury [54:46.000 --> 54:51.000] If you've got a prosecutor that's struggling to get elected [54:51.000 --> 54:53.000] And he's afraid he's going to lose office [54:53.000 --> 55:00.000] And you come to him with criminal complaints against these dirty rotten scoundrel banksters [55:00.000 --> 55:04.000] Whether the dirty rotten scoundrel bankers are banksters or dirty rotten scoundrels or not [55:04.000 --> 55:08.000] They're taking the heat for being dirty rotten scoundrels [55:08.000 --> 55:11.000] And you refuse to prosecute the dirty rotten scoundrel [55:11.000 --> 55:17.000] This guy's going to go tell everybody that you've been bought out by the banks [55:17.000 --> 55:20.000] But if you clobber this guy then you become the local hero [55:20.000 --> 55:22.000] Get yourself back in office [55:22.000 --> 55:25.000] That's right, underdog [55:25.000 --> 55:31.000] You'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side [55:31.000 --> 55:36.000] You will win the case if you have the politics on your side [55:36.000 --> 55:40.000] Let's make ourselves some politics [55:40.000 --> 55:44.000] And if you listen to Sherlock you know this is pretty easy to do [55:44.000 --> 55:47.000] What else did you find about Quiet Title? [55:47.000 --> 55:49.000] That does interest me [55:49.000 --> 55:54.000] I'm not familiar with how the law is different [55:54.000 --> 56:02.000] Yankee land is down here and highly educated hillbilly land [56:02.000 --> 56:05.000] Yeah, who's digging themselves out of snow [56:05.000 --> 56:11.000] You've got to be pretty stupid to dig yourself out of snow every year [56:11.000 --> 56:21.000] When I was in Australia one of the guys quoted a British member of the House of Commons [56:21.000 --> 56:25.000] speaking to sending political dissidents to Australia [56:25.000 --> 56:29.000] And they said we really screwed up when we did that [56:29.000 --> 56:35.000] We should have left them here and we should have went to Australia [56:35.000 --> 56:38.000] Really? I lived in California for 20 years and I can tell you [56:38.000 --> 56:42.000] when I moved everybody said well aren't you afraid of earthquakes? [56:42.000 --> 56:49.000] And I said well statistically more people die in snow storms than they do in earthquakes [56:49.000 --> 56:58.000] Okay, did you find any other interesting revelations on Quiet Title? [56:58.000 --> 57:01.000] That was pretty much what I had just read [57:01.000 --> 57:03.000] I had just started reading it this afternoon [57:03.000 --> 57:10.000] and it brought up that you cannot file a Quiet Title in this state just based on a Quiet Title [57:10.000 --> 57:15.000] It has to have some kind of something backing it to prove your case [57:15.000 --> 57:23.000] And the first thing they looked at if you were a homeowner was fraudulent conveyance [57:23.000 --> 57:28.000] and they used the point where you would look at signatures [57:28.000 --> 57:34.000] any fraudulent signature on any one of your documents is to have an ETO [57:34.000 --> 57:37.000] That's about as far as I'd gotten on it [57:37.000 --> 57:41.000] Okay, here's what Quiet Title is [57:41.000 --> 57:48.000] Quiet Title you have a document filed in the record making a claim against your property [57:48.000 --> 57:51.000] and that clouds your title [57:51.000 --> 57:55.000] So you go in and say this document right here [57:55.000 --> 58:01.000] this document does not meet the filing requirements of the court [58:01.000 --> 58:08.000] or this document met the filing requirements of the court when it was filed [58:08.000 --> 58:14.000] but since then it has become void because of actions of the lender [58:14.000 --> 58:21.000] and we ask the court to quieten the title as to this particular document [58:21.000 --> 58:24.000] Now you can ask them to do it for more than one document [58:24.000 --> 58:29.000] but Quiet Title doesn't go to a claim against the lender [58:29.000 --> 58:34.000] It goes to a claim against a document filed in the record and nothing else [58:34.000 --> 58:37.000] I'll address that a little bit more when I come back on the other side [58:37.000 --> 58:40.000] This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio [58:40.000 --> 58:44.000] I call it number 512-646-1984 [58:44.000 --> 58:46.000] We'll be right back [58:50.000 --> 58:54.000] The Bible remains the most popular book in the world [58:54.000 --> 58:58.000] yet countless readers are frustrated because they struggle to understand it [58:58.000 --> 59:02.000] Some new translations try to help by simplifying the text [59:02.000 --> 59:06.000] but in the process can compromise the profound meaning of the scripture [59:06.000 --> 59:09.000] Enter the recovery version [59:09.000 --> 59:13.000] First, this new translation is extremely faithful and accurate [59:13.000 --> 59:18.000] but the real story is the more than 9,000 explanatory footnotes [59:18.000 --> 59:22.000] Difficult and profound passages are opened up in a marvelous way [59:22.000 --> 59:28.000] providing an entrance into the riches of the word beyond which you've ever experienced before [59:28.000 --> 59:33.000] Bibles for America would like to give you a free recovery version simply for the asking [59:33.000 --> 59:39.000] This comprehensive yet compact study Bible is yours just by calling us toll-free [59:39.000 --> 59:44.000] at 1-888-551-0102 [59:44.000 --> 59:48.000] or by ordering online at freestudybible.com [59:48.000 --> 59:51.000] That's freestudybible.com [59:53.000 --> 59:56.000] You're listening to the Logos Radio Network [59:56.000 --> 01:00:03.000] at logosradionetwork.com [01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:07.000] This is the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist updates [01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.000] online at thelibertybeat.com [01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:14.000] I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Wednesday, February 12, 2014 [01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:17.000] Gold opens today at $1,291 [01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.000] Silver opened at $20.24 [01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.000] and Bitcoin is trading at $659.11 [01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:26.000] Today's Bitcoin price sponsored by Cash into Coins [01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:29.000] The United States' largest cash for Bitcoin service [01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.000] online at cashintocoins.com [01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.000] Support for the Liberty Beat comes from cloudhashing.com [01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:39.000] The simplest and most convenient way to mine Bitcoins [01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.000] No technical expertise is needed [01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:45.000] Learn more or sign up today at cloudhashing.com [01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:48.000] Support also provided by Sovereign BTC [01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:51.000] Media, marketing and consulting for the Bitcoin ecosystem [01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.000] online at sovereignbtc.com [01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:57.000] And for Mass Appeal, affordable, high quality printing [01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.000] now accepting Bitcoin [01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:02.000] online at massappealinc.com [01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.000] Bitstamp becomes the second Bitcoin exchange [01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.000] to suspend customer withdrawals [01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.000] That follows a similar move made last week by Mt. 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Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, RuPaul Radio [01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.000] and we're talking to Chris in Pennsylvania [01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.000] Okay, we were talking about quiet title [01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.000] Things to watch out for in quiet title [01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:56.000] A quiet title is a declaratory judgment action [01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.000] Good thing about declaratory judgment [01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:04.000] Nobody ever has any immunity from a declaratory judgment suit [01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.000] You can sue a judge for declaratory judgment [01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.000] The only time their immunity kicks in is when you ask for damages [01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.000] If you file a quiet title action [01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:27.000] make sure you do not make any claims against the person who filed the document [01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.000] It ain't about that [01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.000] It's essentially an in rim action against the document [01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:38.000] You're suing the document [01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:44.000] You're suing the document saying this document is invalid [01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:48.000] as it lays in the court record [01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:51.000] When a document is filed in the county record [01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:52.000] I said court [01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.000] I should have said county [01:04:55.000 --> 01:05:01.000] When the document is laid into the real property records [01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:06.000] it is presumed to be regular [01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:12.000] and it will stand as valid and regular until it's challenged [01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:16.000] The way it's challenged is with a quiet title action [01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:23.000] and the quiet title action can only address the regularity of the document [01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:29.000] It cannot address any supposed fraud behind the document [01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:33.000] or any claim that may be based on the document [01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:37.000] If the judge tries to enter into the ruling [01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:43.000] any assertions about the underlying claim [01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:48.000] you raise an objection to that very very quickly [01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:52.000] because if he does that he's screwing you [01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:56.000] He's making it look like he's giving you a ruling [01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:02.000] The other side is going to appeal it and the appellate court will throw it out in a heartbeat [01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:13.000] So make sure you only ask the judge to rule on the validity or enforceability of this document and nothing else [01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:16.000] Does that make sense Chris? [01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.000] It makes perfect sense [01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.000] Perfect sense [01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.000] That will keep you out of trouble with quiet title [01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.000] and quiet title is great [01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.000] It's bushwhack [01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:33.000] If they've screwed up everything and you go in there and say [01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.000] Judge, these guys screwed up everything [01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.000] They messed up this, they messed up this, they messed up this [01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:44.000] Then the other side can get their stuff together and get in there and try to fix it [01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:47.000] But you don't do that [01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:52.000] You go in, say you've got, if you've got a wrongful foreclosure [01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.000] and you file wrongful foreclosure [01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:01.000] one of the requirements is that you be prepared to tender [01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.000] You be prepared to give them back all the money they give you [01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:08.000] before you can file the wrongful foreclosure [01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.000] So heck with that [01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:16.000] Let's go in and take out the document with a quiet title action [01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:26.000] Say there's an, like I have one in Frisco where there is a warranty deed and a deed of trust to Washington Mutual [01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.000] and then there's a warranty deed to me [01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:36.000] and then there's an assignment of substitute trustee by JP Morgan Chase [01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:42.000] So instead of, and then subsequently there was a foreclosure [01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.000] So I go in and say to the court [01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:51.000] This assignment of substitute trustee by JP Morgan Chase [01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:59.000] This does not meet the filing requirements as stipulated under Texas Government Code 13.001 [01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:03.000] 13.001, I'm sorry, not 13.001 [01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:07.000] Texas Government Code 51901C [01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:16.000] 901C defines what a fraudulent filing in the county registrar's office is [01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:21.000] and that is a document that is filed in the record [01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:31.000] where there is no document granting the filer authority to file anything affecting the title [01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:35.000] There is a deed of trust to Washington Mutual Bank [01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:43.000] and everybody knows that JP Morgan Chase took over the assets of Washington Mutual Bank [01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:51.000] However, if you look in the county record, there is no indication [01:08:51.000 --> 01:09:00.000] that the security instrument was transferred from Washington Mutual Bank to JP Morgan Chase [01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:09.000] Therefore, by statute, that appointment of substitute trustee is void [01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:14.000] You get the ruling that the appointment of substitute trustee is void [01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:21.000] Then you don't sue the bank for wrongful foreclosure [01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:29.000] You sue the trustee who sold the property for illegal conversion [01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:37.000] And the suit becomes a matter of res judicata [01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:41.000] It's not a matter of whether you're going to win it or not [01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:50.000] It's how much you're going to win because the determination by the court that the document is invalid [01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:54.000] The only thing you're asking the court to rule is that this is not filed right [01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:56.000] It doesn't meet the filing requirements [01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.000] That's not hard for a judge to wrap his head around [01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:02.000] You're not asking him to change the world as he knows it [01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:06.000] Just this particular document wasn't filed right [01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:11.000] We don't even talk about the fact that when he rules that this was not filed right [01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.000] He undermines everything that followed it [01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:17.000] You see where I'm going, Chris? [01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.000] Yep, I see where you're going [01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:23.000] You sneak up on them [01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:31.000] A lot of times you file these documents, the other side doesn't even respond [01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:36.000] Somehow they fall through the cracks, they don't realize how important it is [01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:43.000] We definitely want to look at a quiet title, but we don't want to throw the whole thing at them [01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:47.000] We go in for one thing at a time [01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:52.000] And that'll keep them in court until they get old [01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:56.000] So we file a quiet title on this document, we don't get it [01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:59.000] Then we file a quiet title on another document [01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:03.000] And just walk them through the system [01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.000] Okay, do you have anything else for us, Chris? [01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:08.000] No, that was it, Randy [01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:12.000] Enjoy your next day down there [01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:17.000] Okay, well thank you and go out there and shovel some snow [01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:20.000] I knew that was coming, thank you [01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:25.000] Okay, we are going to Jeff in Mississippi [01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:30.000] Jeff, how is your habeas going? [01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:35.000] Hey, Randy, I don't think I have to do a habeas [01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.000] I got home the other night [01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:48.000] And a bunch of people had called me and said that I wound up getting a new trial from the Mississippi Supreme Court [01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:52.000] And I did not know that, I was the last guy to know that [01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:57.000] So I got onto the internet and got into Jackson, Mississippi, their newspaper [01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:01.000] And sure enough, there's an article that says Jeffrey Hill gets a new trial [01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:06.000] The Supreme Court judges had gone through my case [01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:12.000] And my public defender that I fired, the judge would not release her [01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:20.000] And so because the judge would not release her, they have given me a new trial, which should be in about three months [01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:26.000] So now you go back with the evidence of no indictments [01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:29.000] Yes, there's no grand jury hearing [01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:33.000] Hold on, hold on, wait, don't wait for a trial [01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.000] Okay, good [01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.000] Do a habeas corpus to the Supreme [01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:41.000] Oh, okay, we're still doing that [01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:45.000] Yeah, do the habeas corpus to the Supreme, and this will all go away [01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.000] But look at the laws on habeas [01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:50.000] Yeah [01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.000] On where you can file a habeas [01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:53.000] Okay [01:12:53.000 --> 01:13:01.000] But since the Supreme just heard your case, you may be able to go to them [01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000] Okay [01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:06.000] With habeas and get them to throw the whole thing out [01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:10.000] So stick with the same plan that we had last week [01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:13.000] Yeah, habeas is not going to hurt you [01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:15.000] Okay, got it [01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:22.000] What was the reason for the remand? [01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:25.000] Now, what is a remand? Is that where they gave me a new trial? [01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:26.000] That's it [01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:31.000] They had to reverse the conviction and remand it back to the court [01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:32.000] Got it [01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:33.000] For a rehearing [01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:37.000] So what was the underlying reason? [01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:43.000] Well, originally, the person that called and filed the report against me [01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.000] for having the rifle supposedly on campus [01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:51.000] the prosecutor never bothered to put that person's name out [01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:54.000] or put the report in discovery [01:13:54.000 --> 01:14:01.000] So during the trial, it came out that there was a hidden witness, I guess you could say [01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:06.000] because my question was, well, where did you get the phone call from a person? [01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.000] Well, who's that person? [01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.000] And the prosecutor immediately jumps up and starts calling him a criminal informant [01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.000] and that he's supposed to be confidential [01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.000] And I started fighting and arguing [01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:22.000] And the attorney, my public defender, wasn't supposed to find out who this person was [01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.000] It was supposed to be a secret [01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.000] Well, accidentally, she finds out [01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:31.000] So she stands up in court and says, I just found out who this secret confidential informant is [01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:35.000] So I need to withdraw because of a conflict of interest [01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.000] And the judge refused to let her go [01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:43.000] And that's what the Supreme Court justices said, that he refused to let her go [01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.000] and she found out the secret name [01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.000] That's what got me my new trust [01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:52.000] Okay, did you find out the secret name? [01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:59.000] No, I still haven't because the judge sealed the file and refused to tell me [01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:12.000] Okay, then they got a warrant to search based on a secret informant [01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:17.000] So you could never challenge the sufficiency of the warrant [01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.000] Well, they never had a warrant [01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:22.000] How did they find out you had a weapon? [01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:26.000] From the phone call, a phone tip [01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.000] And the person supposed to... [01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:32.000] Somebody said, oh, he's got a weapon [01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.000] Do they have the weapon? [01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.000] They still have the weapon [01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.000] How did they get it? [01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.000] Well, they went in and took it [01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:44.000] How did they come in? Where's the warrant that authorized them to come in? [01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:50.000] They never had a warrant. I was in the shower and when I got out of the shower, I was surrounded [01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:52.000] Never was a warrant? [01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:57.000] No, there never was a warrant and that was brought up, but the judge and the prosecutor says [01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:06.000] that since Mr. Hill never challenged the warrant, there's not a warrant issue [01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:11.000] Wait a minute, what did that mean, never challenged the warrant? [01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:19.000] Well, because when they came in, I did not say you have to leave my house or else get a search warrant [01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:22.000] But did you invite them into your house? [01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:25.000] Oh no, absolutely not. I was in the shower [01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:29.000] They came into your house while you were in the shower, buck naked? [01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:36.000] Yes, and when I got out of the shower wrapped in a bath towel, there's three men with automatic pistols [01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:40.000] How did they get... was your door closed? [01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.000] You mean the front door to the apartment? [01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.000] Yes [01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:48.000] Yeah, that was closed, so my roommate opened it up and let them in [01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.000] Shoot your roommate [01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:56.000] Hang on, Randy Kelton, Mr. Stevens, we'll radio our call-in number [01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:22.000] 512-646-1984, we'll be right back [01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:32.000] Hi, this is Kurt Hildebrandt, I've been using Magic Mud for a while now [01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:36.000] and I just can't believe how much healthier my teeth and gums feel, I love the product [01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:40.000] This is Anna Martin, the Libertarian Homeschooler, I homeschool so I drink coffee [01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:45.000] and I drink coffee so I use Magic Mud, it gets my teeth really clean, give it a try [01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:49.000] This is John Bush of the Liberty Beat, my wife and I use My Magic Mud because it brightens our smile [01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:52.000] and our daughter uses it because it makes brushing fun [01:17:52.000 --> 01:18:00.000] To get your can of My Magic Mud, go to Brave New Books or order it online at MyMagicMud.com [01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:05.000] At Capital Coin and Bullion, our mission is to be your preferred shopping destination [01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:09.000] by delivering excellent customer service and outstanding value at an affordable price [01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:15.000] We provide a wide assortment of favorite products featuring a great selection of high quality coins and precious metals [01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:19.000] We cater to beginners in coin collecting as well as large transactions for investors [01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:24.000] We believe in educating our customers with resources from top accredited metals dealers and journalists [01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:27.000] If we don't have what you're looking for, we can find it [01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:32.000] In addition, we carry popular young Jevity products such as Beyond Tangy Tangerine and Polynbursts [01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:39.000] We also offer One World Way, Mountain House Storable Foods, Berkey Water Products, ammunition at 10% above wholesale and more [01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:43.000] We broker metals IRA accounts and we also accept Bitcoins as payment [01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:51.000] Call us at 512-646-6440. We're located at 7304 Burnett Road, Suite A, about a half mile south of Anderson [01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:55.000] We're open Monday through Friday 10 to 6, Saturdays 10 to 2 [01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:14.000] Visit us at capitalcoin and bullion.com or call 512-646-6440 [01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:36.000] Well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old shit again [01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.000] I was blindsided but now I can see your plans [01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:47.000] You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hands [01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.000] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old shit again [01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:55.000] Okay, we are back. Randy Cowell from W. Stevens, rule of our radio [01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:02.000] Calling numbers 512-646-1984 and we're talking to Jeff in Mississippi [01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:06.000] Jeff, let's do some detailed walkthrough [01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:14.000] You were in the shower, they knock on the door, your idiot roommate invites them in [01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:19.000] And we think that the roommate's the one that called them to begin with [01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:23.000] Where was the weapon? [01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:28.000] It was in my bedroom closet [01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:31.000] It was in your bedroom closet [01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:42.000] Your roommate could invite them into the building but he could not invite them into your private area of the building [01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.000] Yeah [01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:50.000] So unless the roommate was the secret witness [01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:54.000] And we think he was [01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:57.000] Then bring him on [01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:06.000] You might want to do a subpoena for a deposition of your roommate [01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:10.000] Which would have been the original report that he filed you mean? [01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:19.000] Yes, no you depose him and find out if in fact he was the [01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:26.000] Oh okay, now what about the report that he took that the judge sealed, can I get that? [01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:38.000] That's something you can, in order to defend yourself that's something you absolutely have to fight to get [01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:41.000] Alright [01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:53.000] One of the things you can do is ask that your attorney be able to view the report in camera [01:21:53.000 --> 01:22:01.000] Now your attorney is an officer of the court, he can be held to strict silence [01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:12.000] But he should be allowed to review the evidence and determine whether or not to pursue release of the evidence [01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:13.000] Okay [01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:18.000] If they show it to him and the reason for withholding is legitimate [01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:26.000] Then that's a determination your lawyer can make if you can find a lawyer that won't screw you [01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:36.000] So I would suggest and what it appears is though if you don't have a proper indictment [01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:46.000] And if there are no records of the proper indictment and you have evidence to support that, file a habeas corpus [01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.000] Got it [01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:57.000] Even if they turn down the habeas, by filing the habeas with all of this sculpatory evidence in it [01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:04.000] There is a very good chance the prosecutor will decide not to re-prosecute [01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:13.000] I've got that and I've got the land title, the land title to the apartment show that it was private property to begin with [01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:18.000] That should be in your habeas [01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:19.000] Got it [01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.000] And file it with the highest court that you can [01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:25.000] Which would be the Mississippi Supreme Court [01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:32.000] Yes, but not necessarily, it depends on what the law says about habeas [01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:38.000] You may have to file it in the original court but if you do, you might want to, I don't know [01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:46.000] I started to say you might want to try to recuse the judge in your original hearing but maybe not [01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:52.000] Did the judge appear as though he was trying to screw you? [01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.000] Oh absolutely [01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:56.000] Then move to recuse him [01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:58.000] Okay [01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:04.000] Because the evidence of the indictment is something he should have known about [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:11.000] You can find indication that there are other, hold on, hold on [01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:18.000] Back to my rules, you'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side [01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:23.000] Let's go back and look for some politics [01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:29.000] Go back to the records, to the criminal records, take your cause number [01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:39.000] And spend some time in the clerk's office looking through cause numbers before yours and after yours [01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:45.000] See if you can find other supposed indictments on days [01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:55.000] First thing you do is get a list of all of the days that the court reporter set for the grand jury [01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:01.000] Or vouchers for payments to the grand jurors, they get paid for each day they sit [01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:03.000] Got it [01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:10.000] Go down and maybe get a third party so they don't know what to hide from you [01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:20.000] And get him to look through all of the vouchers and that'll probably be with the comptroller or the county comptroller [01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:29.000] Look for all of the vouchers or expenditures for grand jurors over this time period [01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:37.000] Spread across, look over, get an area here and then go to the court [01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:48.000] And start pulling cases and match up the date of the indictment to the date of the expenditures to the grand jury [01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:52.000] It may well be that this is a pattern [01:25:52.000 --> 01:26:01.000] It's unreasonable to think that the prosecuting attorney would claim that you were indicted when actually you weren't [01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:05.000] So he's probably doing this to other people as well [01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:13.000] So if you can establish a pattern and show other potential cases [01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:18.000] These guys are going to run like rabbits [01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:21.000] Good chance you'll put them in prison instead of you [01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.000] That's what I want [01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:30.000] So go back and they did not, there's no way they singled you out for special mistreatment [01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.000] Yeah [01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:41.000] They almost certainly did the same thing to everyone and if that's the case then you file criminally against all of them including the judge [01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:47.000] And maintain there's no way they can do this and the judge not be aware of it [01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.000] Okay, all right [01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:53.000] The best defense is often a good offense [01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:55.000] Okay, go ahead [01:26:55.000 --> 01:27:01.000] When I file my habeas, I'm 500 miles away right now [01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:05.000] Can I send that through the mail if I file a habeas? [01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:07.000] Absolutely [01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:08.000] Okay [01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:12.000] And ask that the habeas be heard without oral argument [01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.000] I don't know, I don't know if you can do that [01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:18.000] That is a good question of how the habeas has to be done [01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:19.000] Okay [01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:26.000] Because it is a habeas corpus, produced the body [01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:35.000] So you may have to go or look at the law, can someone else file a habeas in your stead? [01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:39.000] Well if I have to drive down there I'm fine with it [01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:51.000] Okay, yeah but if you can avoid driving down there then you don't have to worry about them trapping up some crap and arresting you on something else in order to prevent you from coming after them [01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:55.000] Do you have any friends in the neighborhood? [01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:57.000] Not in Jackson [01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.000] If I had to do this through the Supreme Court it would be in Jackson and no I don't know anyone there [01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:06.000] But they don't know me either so I would just drive down there and walk it into the court [01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:15.000] Okay I have a suggestion, let's get creative, get on the internet, Jackson Mississippi Patriot Movement [01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.000] Okay [01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:24.000] You may be able to find some patriots, you may be able to find some other people that's been screwed around in Jackson [01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.000] Alright [01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:33.000] And explain to them what you're looking for and see if they can help you develop a case against these guys [01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:41.000] And if they're living in Jackson they can't go after them because these dirty rotten scoundrels may come after them [01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:45.000] But you're 500 miles away they can't reach you [01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:52.000] So you get somebody to do your research for you down there and then you hammer them from up here [01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:56.000] This is what I found with public officials [01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:02.000] They get real nervous when people go down and dig around doing their paperwork [01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:10.000] Especially if the person is well groomed in wearing a suit [01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:18.000] I walked into a court this morning with a really nice suit, $300 silk tie [01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:23.000] London fog jacket because it's a little chilly out here [01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:30.000] And as I was walking into the building the guy in front of me started to open the door and looked back [01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:36.000] Stepped back, pulled the door open and let me go in first [01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:39.000] He let my suit in first [01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:45.000] When somebody comes down there in the suit and don't talk to them, don't tell them what he's doing it makes them nuts [01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:50.000] So you call in tomorrow night, I'd like to talk about this some more but I've got a bunch of callers I've got to get to [01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:53.000] I have to work tomorrow night but I'll call in next Thursday [01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:58.000] This crap I haven't learned to work is interfering with our entertainment [01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:00.000] I'm a dentist, you'll be in the restroom [01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:07.000] Cash used to be king but now could it land you in jail? 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Who you take me for? Free, tolly? Who you want to chip? Me no free, tolly? [01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:22.000] You can't chip me, homo sack [01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:25.000] Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening [01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.000] Put a chip in your body [01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:29.000] And then when you go computer reading [01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:31.000] You can't hide me except I'm nobody [01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.000] When they say chip in your mom, chip in your daddy [01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:37.000] Chip in your grandpa and the granny [01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.000] Chip in me, chip in your baby [01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:42.000] Chip in your family, whole family [01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:44.000] Chip in your dad and the cap around me [01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:47.000] Chip in the beef and you still go eat it [01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:49.000] Chip in the fish, them all in the sea [01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:51.000] Chip in the shark and the whale around me [01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:53.000] You know, still mankind, go and chip in [01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:56.000] Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens [01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:59.000] Except Deborah Stevens has come out off tonight [01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:04.000] And we're going to Mike in Tejas [01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.000] Hola, señor Mike [01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:11.000] How's it going? [01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:15.000] Let's see, it's going pretty good [01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:18.000] Muy bien, muy bien [01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:23.000] I'm learning Spanish and I started out by learning [01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:29.000] the two most important sentences to know in Spanish [01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:33.000] Me gusta en cerveza muy fría [01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:36.000] I like cold beer [01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:41.000] And ¿dónde el baño? ¿Dónde está el baño? [01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:44.000] Where's the toilet? [01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:52.000] Okay, Mike, update us on what is going on with you and the courts [01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:57.000] Oh, let's see, interesting week I suppose [01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:03.000] I got two letters from the public information request [01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:08.000] One from the Travis County Court of Court [01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:12.000] And I'm looking for the agent for Travis County [01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:16.000] And I get a response that she doesn't know [01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:19.000] Okay, hold on, you're saying agent [01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:21.000] And you've been saying that for a while [01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:25.000] And I missed what you were actually addressing [01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:30.000] You were talking about the agent for public records [01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:32.000] Yeah, it should be more specific [01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.000] Agent for public records [01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.000] Okay, under the Open Government Act [01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:42.000] That is called the custodian [01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:43.000] Okay [01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.000] And you were saying agent [01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:48.000] And it didn't click in my brain what it was [01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.000] The custodian of the record [01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.000] Okay, go ahead [01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:58.000] Well, I've got a response from Travis County [01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:05.000] Court of Courts that they have no information regarding that request [01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:08.000] And also from the Attorney General of Texas [01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:12.000] Okay, that's why they're doing it [01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.000] Because of nomenclature [01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:18.000] I asked her about that [01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:21.000] And she said no, no [01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:25.000] We interpreted it broadly [01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:29.000] And her response was to me verbally, which I recorded [01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:34.000] Was that the, you know, paraphrasing [01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:40.000] The Attorney General of Texas does not keep track of all the agents [01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:42.000] In all the counties in Texas [01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:45.000] And I said, well, aren't they responsive to you? [01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:49.000] No, they are independent governments and we don't have any control of them [01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:52.000] And I said, well, you're saying that [01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:58.000] The state of Texas has no vested interest in the individual counties in the state of Texas [01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:03.000] Yes, that's true, we have no ability to regulate them [01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:07.000] And she's right about that [01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:15.000] Every elected official is pretty well independent of everybody else [01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:16.000] Okay [01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:22.000] However, if they interpreted the term broadly [01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:30.000] And you were asking for the agent who would be in a position to provide you with records [01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:34.000] Then that means custodian of the record [01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:41.000] And they know full well that the statute very clearly specifies [01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:50.000] That the custodian of the record for every department is the head of the department [01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:54.000] If it is an elected office, it is the elected official [01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:57.000] This is not rocket science [01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:04.000] So the records for Travis County Sheriff's Office [01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.000] Would they be maintained by the court of the courts, Dana DiBever, or do they? [01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:19.000] No, they will be the custodian of the record for the sheriff's department is the elected sheriff [01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:25.000] Now he may appoint someone to act in his stead [01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:28.000] But they act in his stead [01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:31.000] Their acts are his acts [01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:32.000] Okay [01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:36.000] You don't have to go to the chumps he puts in place [01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:41.000] He is the one where she is responding yet superior [01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:47.000] So Dana DiBever would have no effect if I subpoenaed her [01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:50.000] But just to be clear that I subpoenaed her [01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:54.000] For sheriff's department records, none [01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:56.000] Okay [01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:00.000] She is the elected clerk [01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:03.000] She keeps the records of the county clerk [01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:06.000] Or district clerk, whichever she is [01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:09.000] The sheriff keeps all the sheriff's records [01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:12.000] Now the clerk may hold those records [01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:20.000] But they are under the constructive custody and control of the custodian of the record, which is the sheriff [01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:23.000] Okay [01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:26.000] They can't hide from that one [01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:34.000] Yeah, I think they are counting on my ignorance and they are probably succeeding [01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:46.000] But at the end of the conversation it did end up that she said that all these agents do respond to her and they are responsive to her requests [01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:52.000] I said well then they are under your direction in some regard [01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:57.000] But she didn't like that so she started twisting my words and then walked off [01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:02.000] Who was this that said that? [01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:05.000] Jordan Hale, public information officer [01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:12.000] Actually in the middle of it she said if you want to file criminal charges against me go ahead and do it [01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:15.000] I said oh well do I need your permission? [01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:20.000] Yeah [01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:25.000] Wait a minute, Jordan Hale, this wasn't the attorney general's office? [01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:30.000] She is the head public information coordinator [01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:32.000] For the attorney general's office? [01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:34.000] For the attorney general's office [01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:37.000] Yeah, don't file against her or file against Greg Abbott [01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:44.000] Yeah, yeah, I think that it seemed like it came from that general vicinity [01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:49.000] Yeah, Greg Abbott is responding at Superior, she's just a flunky [01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.000] Yeah, I think she [01:40:51.000 --> 01:41:00.000] You don't prosecute the functionaries, you prosecute the head of the agency [01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:06.000] You did not elect the functionary, you didn't hire the functionary [01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:12.000] You elected the head of the agency, the head of the agency is a public servant [01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:22.000] You are the master, he's the one that answers to you, everybody else answers to him [01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:26.000] So file against him and sue him personally [01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:32.000] I think that's going to be the next thing on the list is I think in a couple weeks after I get a [01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:42.000] I've got a big document I've got to push out, I've got to get a petition for a certiorari written mandamus [01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:47.000] in the federal supreme court, United States supreme court [01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:54.000] I would say that as documents go, that's a big one [01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:59.000] That's probably a big one, I've got probably about 100 pages of it written and I'm just putting on [01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:04.000] I'm still adding to it, but I've got about a week and then it's going to be all [01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:09.000] And then I've got to go through the publication process of it and then get it filed in [01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:14.000] I don't think they're going to like this, they're not going to like what I put in this [01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:18.000] Just the evidence I put in is just crazy [01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:24.000] In my City of Austin case, I powered up, there's about 20 different cause numbers [01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:34.000] 12 of them directly related to the City of Austin charge and then another 8 that are effectively retaliation [01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:41.000] Wonderful, there's very few people who will stay after them [01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:45.000] Most people would just give up and cave in [01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:51.000] And those who stay with it are the ones who win in the end [01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:57.000] I've been telling people, you could be the one, you could be the one to change everything [01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:00.000] Everything [01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:05.000] I think that the feedback, I get mixed feedback [01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:09.000] And some people are very positive, they say there's going to be a lot of change [01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:14.000] Once the supreme court sees this document, they may not grant me certiorari [01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:19.000] But behind the scenes there may be a lot of things that happen [01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:22.000] This is the way I found that it works [01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:31.000] I filed a set of criminal complaints against the judges of the Court of Criminal Appeals [01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:36.000] It took a year and I finally got Ron Earl to give them to the grand jury [01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:43.000] But he was just trying to take them out of office with him [01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:50.000] But in any case, the Court of Criminal Appeals changed their policies [01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:57.000] Hang on, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, we'll go by radio or call it number 512-646-1984 [01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:00.000] We'll be right back [01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:04.000] You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics? 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This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Rule of Law Radio [01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:41.000] and we're talking to Mike in Texas [01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:48.000] Okay, you're what, a week away from your sociology to the Supreme? [01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:52.000] So it's got to be in the Supreme's hand by March 9 [01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:55.000] Oh, okay, good. So you've got a little time [01:46:55.000 --> 01:47:02.000] Now, this sociology goes what, to the city of Austin or to Travis County? [01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:04.000] This goes to the city of Austin [01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:09.000] Regarding the Travis County charge that's sitting in the Fifth Circuit right now [01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:15.000] So I checked with the court this week and so they are in receipt of my appellate brief, timely [01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:20.000] They are in receipt of my corrected records excerpt, timely [01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:25.000] And also my response reply brief, timely [01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:32.000] And the Travis County has opted not to file a motion to rebut my rebuttal [01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:36.000] And I think they would have a hard time with that [01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:40.000] There were some pretty interesting things that I put in that response [01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:43.000] I think they're afraid to [01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:50.000] Well, I think they're just hoping that the Fifth Circuit's just going to dump it just like they did with the city of Austin [01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:52.000] And then, you know, that's great [01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:57.000] I get a second chance at a certiorari and by that time I'll be old hand at it [01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:03.000] And I've got all the stuff down and the second time around it should go easier [01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:07.000] And I won't be having to write all this stuff while writing the certiorari [01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:10.000] Certiorari I haven't been able to really spend much time with [01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:15.000] Just because I've had all these other, you know, I probably filed like 200 pages in the court [01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:21.000] You know, more than that since, you know, and then I [01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:26.000] As an afterthought then I can write the certiorari to get that in [01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:33.000] But I've been cranking on it pretty hard and all I'm down to is just the legal stuff that I'm going to put in [01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:39.000] I think it's important but I don't, as a per se, I don't know how much credence they're going to give it [01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:44.000] But as far as my questions go, I'm going to [01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:46.000] I'm starting to work on those [01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:49.000] I got some tips from a lawyer yesterday [01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.000] Thanks, Samir Kroneck [01:48:51.000 --> 01:49:02.000] And one of the arguments from an attorney was that you should argue that there is no overlapping jurisdiction [01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:13.000] And that there is no adequate remedy if, you know, one of the jurisdictions is inappropriately applied [01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:18.000] And so I think that pretty much suits the original charge [01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:21.000] They got a big hoot out of outlawry [01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:23.000] I think they thought that was funny [01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:25.000] But they knew right off the top of their head [01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:32.000] But I'm also going to go to, I don't know how to describe it [01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.000] I guess it would be official oppression [01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:37.000] But really it should be a go to libel [01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:42.000] But I may, you know, kind of recodify things and call it constructive habeas corpus [01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:50.000] Because they know that by putting all these charges on me is, you know, difficult or impossible to get work [01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:56.000] Because on the record it says pending criminal charges and it's impossible to get employment with that [01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:57.000] And they did that [01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:01.000] And they even told my attorney they did that for the purpose of applying financial pressure on me [01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.000] So I was given in plea bargain [01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:10.000] When they knew I was, they had clear and present evidence that, you know, I was not guilty of any of the stuff that they were accusing me of [01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.000] And in fact it was the contrary [01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.000] It was actually sheriff's deputies who did that [01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:18.000] And also in the city of Austin, same thing too [01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:25.000] You know, that's sort of going to be some of my questions [01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:30.000] I've got to keep it to one or two as maximum three questions [01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:33.000] And they said that's the part that they're going to look at [01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:35.000] They're not going to read anything else [01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:39.000] They may, but the part that they're going to be of most interest is [01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:47.000] Is there a compelling federal question that they want to address at this time? [01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:51.000] Yeah, that goes to the politics of the situation [01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:55.000] Is there a question they want to address at this time? [01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:59.000] Yeah, that's exactly true [01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:05.000] So have you been, have you looked at the Supreme Court and what they're ruling on and how they're ruling [01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:10.000] To get an idea of what they will want to rule on? [01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:15.000] I'm probably going to start into that a little bit more tomorrow [01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.000] Right now I'm kind of finishing up [01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:21.000] There's so much boilerplate that's involved [01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:26.000] I've got to hand transcribe documents that are eight and a half by eleven [01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:31.000] And fit them into a space that's four and a half by seven [01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:35.000] Or roughly four and an eighth by seven [01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:37.000] And so obviously it can't be done [01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:39.000] So there's a lot of staggering of things [01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:41.000] And it's all going to be hand transcribed [01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:44.000] It cannot be photo replicated [01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:48.000] I've got like fifty, sixty pages at least of hand transcription [01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:50.000] It's quite timely [01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:58.000] But the most amount of time was recapping all the series of events that have transpired [01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:04.000] And condensing them into something that's mildly readable [01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:08.000] And just my reading through it [01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:13.000] I just get angry just looking at all the stuff they did [01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:16.000] I would imagine if they're reading it for the first time [01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:19.000] They're going to be just astonished at just [01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:22.000] Maybe not, I don't know, maybe they get it a lot of time [01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:26.000] But just massive amount of process files [01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:29.000] Just willful and obvious [01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:35.000] You need to send this to every legislature in the House and Senate [01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:39.000] Yeah, that's a really good idea [01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:41.000] Just email it to them [01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:48.000] This is what's going on in your courts [01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:50.000] Okay [01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:52.000] My next step is once I get the search area [01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:56.000] I'm starting to put more pressure on, more political pressure [01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:00.000] And that would be a good step towards that [01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:04.000] Legislators, if they look like this could turn into a hot potato [01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:09.000] They're going to want to be on the good side of it [01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:14.000] Okay, I need to move along, we've got time for one more caller [01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.000] Thanks Mike, keep us up to speed [01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:21.000] I still think you're going to be the guy to change everything [01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:25.000] I'll definitely let you know as things progress [01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:27.000] Okay, thank you much Mike [01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.000] Thanks Randy [01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:34.000] Okay, now we're going to go to Johnny in Texas who wants to set me straight [01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:37.000] He thinks I'm a chump [01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:39.000] Well, I don't know that I'd go that far [01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:43.000] But I do disagree with something that you said earlier in the show [01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:46.000] And I want to tell you why and just get your thoughts on it [01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:49.000] In the few minutes that we have left [01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:54.000] Earlier in the show you were talking about how important our vote is [01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:59.000] And how much power we have because of the vote [01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:03.000] I really disagree with that and let me tell you why [01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:11.000] It has been said that a vote in the system is a vote for the system [01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:16.000] And I don't know how much you know about the end of courts [01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:19.000] But that's something that there's not enough time to talk about that [01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:23.000] You really need to research into that issue [01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:28.000] Say that again, the end of courts? [01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:31.000] End of courts [01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:36.000] It has its foundations in Britain and it was moved here to the United States [01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:42.000] And most of the attorneys and judges in and around Tarrant County are members of it [01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:46.000] It was founded by Eldon B. Mahon with whom you should be familiar [01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.000] Because I know you spent a lot of time in the federal building [01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:52.000] Which is the Eldon B. Mahon building [01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:54.000] Yes [01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:57.000] So research into that [01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:04.000] And we all know that every politician from low level all the way up to President of the United States [01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:09.000] They promise anything and everything that they know people want to hear to get elected [01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:12.000] And then once they're elected they forget about every single promise that they made [01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:15.000] So we know that there's a pattern of that [01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:19.000] If you look at the Bankers' Manifest Bill of 1892 [01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:24.000] It talks about how issues of terrible form must be urged [01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:28.000] Okay, hold on, you're talking about J.P. Morgan Chase? [01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:32.000] Or J.P. Morgan in that manifesto? [01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:34.000] Yes [01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:38.000] There is question as to whether that is actually real [01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:45.000] I can see some documents that was actually presented on the House floor [01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:48.000] Protesting the establishment of the Federal Reserve [01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:51.000] Someone, a congressman was arguing against it [01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:55.000] That was Congressman Lindbergh? [01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:58.000] Yes, senior, Charles Lindbergh senior [01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:09.000] They talk about how by dividing the voters we can get them to expend all of their energies fighting over questions of no importance to us except for teachers [01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:14.000] No, no, no, that wasn't Lindbergh, he didn't do that, that was J.P. Morgan [01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:17.000] It was attributed to J.P. Morgan [01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:25.000] There's question as to whether there's a lot of information to believe that was just made up [01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:30.000] I shouldn't even brought that up, my apologies, that's nitpicking [01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:34.000] I buy what they said [01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:43.000] I would accept that these guys believe that if we keep the masses focused on stuff we don't give a crap about [01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:46.000] Then they don't bother us while we're policing them [01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:49.000] That's essentially what it says [01:56:49.000 --> 01:57:00.000] It was J.P. Morgan that helped create it but it was Lindbergh who presented that document as evidence of why we shouldn't have the Federal Reserve, just to clarify [01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:12.000] But then I also have a very good friend who is an attorney and he is a very high ranking member of the inner courts [01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:18.000] And he has confided some things in me talking about the oath that attorneys take [01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:31.000] And he has explained to me how, at least in Texas, it is actually and literally the attorneys who get the judges elected [01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:39.000] And he's told me how he has won cases that he never should have won, had absolutely no right to win [01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:46.000] And he did it by partnering up with an attorney who he knew helped get a presiding judge elected [01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:50.000] So would you take those things into consideration? [01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:55.000] My view is that the votes don't really matter that much [01:57:55.000 --> 01:58:02.000] That goes to you'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side [01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:09.000] It's all political, I understand that, but if we don't participate in voting, we don't participate in anything [01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:15.000] The place to start is by voting and that should pry you out the door [01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:27.000] And a few of those who vote will actually get to work and help to maintain the system as they've done over the last 200 years [01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:30.000] The system may not be great but it's still working [01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:35.000] Okay, we are out of time. 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