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[00:45.000 --> 00:50.000]  In the news today, a Spokane Washington bar joins the Bitcoin revolution.
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[01:14.000 --> 01:19.000]  The director of the FBI can't understand any praise for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden,
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[01:23.000 --> 01:29.000]  Talking to reporters last week, Jim Comey said because all three branches of government have approved the program,
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[03:16.000 --> 03:39.000]  Really, man, come on, six o'clock noon, say somebody been shot, somebody's been abused, somebody blew up a building, somebody stole their car, somebody got away, somebody didn't get too far, yeah, they didn't get too far.
[03:39.000 --> 03:47.000]  Grandpappy told my pappy back in my day, son, a man had to answer for the weed that he dug.
[03:47.000 --> 04:01.000]  Take all the rope in Texas, find a tall old tree, round up all of them bad boys, hang a high on the street, for all the people to see.
[04:01.000 --> 04:09.000]  That justice is the one thing you should always find, you've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line.
[04:09.000 --> 04:17.000]  When the gun smoke settles, we'll sing a victory tune, and we'll all be back at the local smoke.
[04:17.000 --> 04:32.000]  We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing, let's get for my men, beer for my horses.
[04:32.000 --> 04:37.000]  All right, folks, good evening. This is the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Show.
[04:37.000 --> 04:44.000]  This is your host, Eddie Craig. It is January 13th, 2014. We are live tonight.
[04:44.000 --> 04:50.000]  Now, I don't want to go on for a while before we start taking phone calls, so I've already opened up the phone lines.
[04:50.000 --> 04:58.000]  Call in number 512-646-1984. If you've got a question or anything like that or just something you want to discuss,
[04:58.000 --> 05:02.000]  then please feel free to go ahead and start lining up in the caller board there.
[05:02.000 --> 05:08.000]  But while I'm waiting on that to happen, there is something I'd like to bring to everyone's attention.
[05:08.000 --> 05:14.000]  Now, if you are following the postings on Facebook regarding what we're doing with TOW Law
[05:14.000 --> 05:20.000]  and then some of the other things that I post about or discuss and so on on the Facebook page,
[05:20.000 --> 05:26.000]  which if you want to join in all that, just go on Facebook, if you are on Facebook,
[05:26.000 --> 05:35.000]  and go look for TOW, T-A-O, space, L-A-W, TOW Law, and send me a friend request and I'll add you to it.
[05:35.000 --> 05:43.000]  And there's also a like page up, TOW of Law, which is all about what's coming up on our website
[05:43.000 --> 05:45.000]  and everything like that when we get it launched.
[05:45.000 --> 05:53.000]  Now, we are still working on the security framework for that, trying to make the site as absolutely secure as possible,
[05:53.000 --> 06:00.000]  not only from hackers, but from our own government morons who can't help but spy on us.
[06:00.000 --> 06:06.000]  We're trying to make sure that we can weed out and keep track of whatever information we actually must have
[06:06.000 --> 06:11.000]  versus information that can be used to track back to users and things like that.
[06:11.000 --> 06:18.000]  We're trying to keep any and all such information to an absolute minimum so that that is not possible.
[06:18.000 --> 06:25.000]  The only time that we intend to store any information about any things that's attached to our website
[06:25.000 --> 06:32.000]  is when we realize that connection was used for an attempt to exploit the site, hack the site,
[06:32.000 --> 06:42.000]  or to make a posting that is absolutely not acceptable in the form of something that could be used to attack the site by law enforcement.
[06:42.000 --> 06:46.000]  So we're going to keep all of that to a minimum.
[06:46.000 --> 06:52.000]  It will be purged once it's no longer needed for the purpose of getting that connection
[06:52.000 --> 06:56.000]  or tracking that type of posting and such.
[06:56.000 --> 07:00.000]  So we're still working on that, so please bear with us.
[07:00.000 --> 07:06.000]  Now, one of the discussions that I wanted to go over on the Facebook page,
[07:06.000 --> 07:15.000]  I was talking about the specific federal law that makes opting out of Obamacare extremely easy to do.
[07:15.000 --> 07:21.000]  It simply is don't ever sign up for it, don't ever send them information relating to you or anything else,
[07:21.000 --> 07:24.000]  and simply don't do it.
[07:24.000 --> 07:30.000]  But some guy gets on there and starts posting about phonetics law.
[07:30.000 --> 07:35.000]  First off, there is no such thing as phonetics law.
[07:35.000 --> 07:44.000]  He is trying to take certain words that begin with the same phonetic sounds,
[07:44.000 --> 07:58.000]  such as licentia versus license, and then he's trying to declare that these words are the same thing
[07:58.000 --> 08:07.000]  because they have the same phonetic beginning, when in fact, by definition, they are absolutely not the same.
[08:07.000 --> 08:09.000]  They don't mean the same thing.
[08:09.000 --> 08:16.000]  They're not used to the same context, and they don't reference anything at all to the same subject matter.
[08:16.000 --> 08:19.000]  And yet this guy is insisting that they're one and the same.
[08:19.000 --> 08:29.000]  So he is arguing you go into court fighting what they're saying based upon the phonetics of the language.
[08:29.000 --> 08:35.000]  I'm going to tell you right now, folks, if you're listening to people that talk like this, you deserve what you get
[08:35.000 --> 08:41.000]  because that is not going to fly in any manner of common sense.
[08:41.000 --> 08:43.000]  It just, it can't.
[08:43.000 --> 08:44.000]  Okay?
[08:44.000 --> 08:49.000]  Language is not built upon just phonetics.
[08:49.000 --> 08:58.000]  Language is also built upon the meaning and usage and context of the words themselves.
[08:58.000 --> 09:07.000]  This guy is willing to go completely outside the normal realm of any type of common language construction, usage,
[09:07.000 --> 09:12.000]  and everything else to attack everything strictly on phonetic sounds.
[09:12.000 --> 09:16.000]  That is not going to work in a court.
[09:16.000 --> 09:21.000]  What it will do is it will get you ordered for a mental evaluation,
[09:21.000 --> 09:31.000]  and frankly I'd have to start agreeing with that because that's just, it's asinine to think that you're going to argue law
[09:31.000 --> 09:40.000]  based entirely upon phonetics rather than the intent of the law is defined by the definitions regardless of the phonetics.
[09:40.000 --> 09:44.000]  But you could not make this guy comprehend that.
[09:44.000 --> 09:53.000]  You could not make him in any way, shape, or form even attempt to conceive it from that point of view.
[09:53.000 --> 10:03.000]  In fact, he kept insisting that the word ration and the word rational also mean the same thing
[10:03.000 --> 10:10.000]  because they have the same phonetic prefix and they don't.
[10:10.000 --> 10:16.000]  They're not even close in the definition as they're used in language.
[10:16.000 --> 10:22.000]  This kind of stuff right here is exactly where patronet theory and mythology comes from.
[10:22.000 --> 10:32.000]  It's exactly where people wind up throwing themselves off a cliff when it comes to having to go to court.
[10:32.000 --> 10:41.000]  They take something that sounds good because someone is convincing when they say it but offer and cannot offer
[10:41.000 --> 10:51.000]  any evidence of fact and truth as to what they're doing as being what they say it is because it isn't.
[10:51.000 --> 10:56.000]  It simply isn't.
[10:56.000 --> 11:05.000]  Okay? And I hate to see people fall into this pit when someone digs it right in front of them and says,
[11:05.000 --> 11:06.000]  yeah, go walking right over there.
[11:06.000 --> 11:12.000]  If you just follow the sound of my voice and keep going in this direction and you do everything exactly the way I tell you,
[11:12.000 --> 11:17.000]  you won't have any problems, oh, wait, except for that hole you just fell into.
[11:17.000 --> 11:25.000]  I forgot to tell you about that being one potential pitfall of following my lead.
[11:25.000 --> 11:29.000]  And there are many like that.
[11:29.000 --> 11:39.000]  Now, that, of course, though the results might be the same, is still a different situation than when you use the proper methods
[11:39.000 --> 11:47.000]  and the court corruptly ignores the law in pursuit of its own goals and ends,
[11:47.000 --> 11:55.000]  which, of course, has always been to take your money and provide you with absolutely no justice whatsoever.
[11:55.000 --> 12:01.000]  The result might be the same, but the situation that got you there is completely different.
[12:01.000 --> 12:09.000]  One is you took really bad advice that really had no common sense application to begin with,
[12:09.000 --> 12:11.000]  and you followed it to your own detriment.
[12:11.000 --> 12:18.000]  The other one is you did everything right, but the other side refuses to abide by the rules of the game
[12:18.000 --> 12:24.000]  and is going to do everything they can to deny you in your rights
[12:24.000 --> 12:32.000]  because they have some higher level of control of the game than you do.
[12:32.000 --> 12:40.000]  But that doesn't mean we have to accept what they do, nor do we have to stop going after them when they do it.
[12:40.000 --> 12:45.000]  Because if we get together enough, we act upon it enough,
[12:45.000 --> 12:51.000]  sometimes we're going to have to effect a change here because they're going to get the idea,
[12:51.000 --> 12:58.000]  we're one step away from them coming after us with fire and stones and sticks,
[12:58.000 --> 13:02.000]  and then after that, they're going to start using bullets.
[13:02.000 --> 13:15.000]  These people are only fearless when they believe we are too dumb to realize or too afraid to react and to bring about change.
[13:15.000 --> 13:23.000]  Well, they're getting a sense of that's not the case anymore based upon the things that are occurring in our society today.
[13:23.000 --> 13:30.000]  There's a lot more activism, there's a lot more voicing of opinion in opposition to what's going on,
[13:30.000 --> 13:33.000]  there's a lot more people standing up and taking notice.
[13:33.000 --> 13:37.000]  Granted, a lot of them are still looking in the wrong direction,
[13:37.000 --> 13:41.000]  and a lot of them are still taking notice of the wrong things,
[13:41.000 --> 13:45.000]  but at least they're not in a comatose stupor.
[13:45.000 --> 13:54.000]  Though, I would argue in some instances that the stupor is just as good as where they're looking or what they're doing,
[13:54.000 --> 13:58.000]  thinking they're awake and doing something good.
[13:58.000 --> 14:11.000]  So we have to consider what our goal is and what the rules are that everybody accepts as being the standard way of doing it.
[14:11.000 --> 14:13.000]  Is the standard way the best way?
[14:13.000 --> 14:14.000]  Not all the time.
[14:14.000 --> 14:20.000]  There are numerous things the courts have standardized on that are absolutely not right,
[14:20.000 --> 14:23.000]  and we know it, or at least some of us know it,
[14:23.000 --> 14:30.000]  and we have done our very best in most cases to bring it to light so that you know it too,
[14:30.000 --> 14:33.000]  and some of you have started acting on it,
[14:33.000 --> 14:40.000]  and you started trying to carry that torch as well and get others to realize and act upon it,
[14:40.000 --> 14:44.000]  and that, folks, is how grassroots movement gets started.
[14:44.000 --> 14:45.000]  Okay?
[14:45.000 --> 14:51.000]  Every fire starts with lighting one blade of grass for a brush fire.
[14:51.000 --> 14:52.000]  Okay?
[14:52.000 --> 15:00.000]  It may spread quickly, it may spread slowly, it may spread violently, it may just go whoosh and just take everything.
[15:00.000 --> 15:04.000]  There's just no way to know for sure how it may turn out.
[15:04.000 --> 15:10.000]  But that one blade of grass is the starting point for everything else.
[15:10.000 --> 15:18.000]  We just need to get the fire going and then, rather than letting it run wild in most cases,
[15:18.000 --> 15:27.000]  which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but when you need something specific to be burned down by that fire,
[15:27.000 --> 15:36.000]  then you do want to be able to direct where it goes and how it, you know, makes it to where it needs to be.
[15:36.000 --> 15:42.000]  You don't start a campfire by running around the ring of where you're camped out lighting all the trees.
[15:42.000 --> 15:49.000]  You focus the fire in a fire pit where it burns only what you want burned instead of everything else, right?
[15:49.000 --> 15:56.000]  Well, we need more of a focus in that regard to these types of grassroots or grassroots brush fires
[15:56.000 --> 16:03.000]  because it's great to have a pet project, but it's like I said on one of the previous shows,
[16:03.000 --> 16:14.000]  you can chase around to all the individual things that are being done and attack them one at a time, but folks, those are symptoms.
[16:14.000 --> 16:21.000]  They're the result of the disease. They're not the cause. They're not even the disease themselves.
[16:21.000 --> 16:31.000]  The disease is the legislator or the group of legislators that thought that was a good idea to do in the first place.
[16:31.000 --> 16:38.000]  That's where we need to be burning things down is with these legislators that think they can write a law
[16:38.000 --> 16:46.000]  or a statute or anything else to do anything they want and a court system that says sure they can.
[16:46.000 --> 16:51.000]  No, they can't. And it's up to us to stop that.
[16:51.000 --> 17:02.000]  All right, folks, call it number 512-646-1984. Let's get some callers. We'll be right back.
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[19:11.000 --> 19:31.000]  All right, folks, we are back.
[19:31.000 --> 19:35.000]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
[19:35.000 --> 19:38.000]  Lazarus, I see you there. Hang on just one more minute.
[19:38.000 --> 19:43.000]  Folks, here is one other piece of news I would like for you to go read about and think about.
[19:43.000 --> 19:53.000]  Here, a little while back, there was, in 2011, there was a homeless man that was beat to death by some cops.
[19:53.000 --> 19:57.000]  And I believe it was out in L.A.
[19:57.000 --> 20:04.000]  And let's see, the gentleman's name was Kelly Thomas, the homeless man's name.
[20:04.000 --> 20:12.000]  And the officers that were on trial for his death were acquitted.
[20:12.000 --> 20:18.000]  This is just proof positive that the juries today do not understand the rights of the individual,
[20:18.000 --> 20:23.000]  nor do they understand the limitations of police powers and authority.
[20:23.000 --> 20:34.000]  Because I've watched the video on this numerous times, from numerous angles, on how this all began.
[20:34.000 --> 20:40.000]  And there is no question in my mind that these officers should have been charged with murder,
[20:40.000 --> 20:43.000]  and they should have been convicted of it.
[20:43.000 --> 20:48.000]  Well, they were charged, at least one of them was, but neither of them were convicted.
[20:48.000 --> 20:55.000]  They were acquitted of all charges, and that's just asinine.
[20:55.000 --> 20:59.000]  And yet, that's the result.
[20:59.000 --> 21:05.000]  I hope, if you ever have the opportunity to serve on a jury,
[21:05.000 --> 21:12.000]  that you will not allow the fact that they're a police officer,
[21:12.000 --> 21:19.000]  or that some officer of the court or whatever says they have the authority to,
[21:19.000 --> 21:28.000]  and that alleged authority would be in contradiction to the purpose of government
[21:28.000 --> 21:31.000]  in protecting the rights of the individual.
[21:31.000 --> 21:35.000]  I hope that you would look at it from that perspective and say,
[21:35.000 --> 21:40.000]  look, their actions were not in the protection of a right,
[21:40.000 --> 21:46.000]  they were for the purpose of denying a right or violating a right.
[21:46.000 --> 21:48.000]  That is not lawful.
[21:48.000 --> 21:52.000]  Therefore, that authority does not exist.
[21:52.000 --> 21:59.000]  Because that authority does not exist, these officers are liable for their actions.
[21:59.000 --> 22:07.000]  And because they're liable, that what they did was a crime for which they should be punished
[22:07.000 --> 22:16.000]  as equally as the punishment would be heaped upon anyone who is not an officer on the payroll.
[22:16.000 --> 22:21.000]  I hope and pray that if you ever get the opportunity to serve on a jury,
[22:21.000 --> 22:23.000]  you will keep that in mind.
[22:23.000 --> 22:28.000]  Because it is not about what the law says they can do.
[22:28.000 --> 22:35.000]  It is about whether or not what they did acted in violation of the rights
[22:35.000 --> 22:40.000]  that even the law itself is out to deny to the people.
[22:40.000 --> 22:43.000]  We cannot let such a law stand.
[22:43.000 --> 22:47.000]  We cannot let such actions continue.
[22:47.000 --> 22:53.000]  Because as long as we let this happen, that's going to be the result.
[22:53.000 --> 22:59.000]  When these guys are obviously guilty of at least something,
[22:59.000 --> 23:04.000]  and yet they're acquitted of everything, that's a travesty of justice.
[23:04.000 --> 23:06.000]  So keep that in mind.
[23:06.000 --> 23:07.000]  All right.
[23:07.000 --> 23:10.000]  That said, we're going to talk to Lazarus in Michigan.
[23:10.000 --> 23:12.000]  Lazarus, what can I do for you?
[23:12.000 --> 23:14.000]  Hey, Eddie, how are you doing tonight?
[23:14.000 --> 23:16.000]  So far, so grand.
[23:16.000 --> 23:20.000]  Currently, I actually have a civil infraction over in Michigan right now.
[23:20.000 --> 23:27.000]  I landed into a ditch, and they got me for saying that I was lost of control of the vehicle.
[23:27.000 --> 23:28.000]  Landed in a ditch?
[23:28.000 --> 23:30.000]  What does that mean?
[23:30.000 --> 23:38.000]  Meaning that it was a snowy day, and I actually slid off the road, and they gave me a ticket for it.
[23:38.000 --> 23:40.000]  Okay.
[23:40.000 --> 23:44.000]  Currently, they gave me a citation.
[23:44.000 --> 23:48.000]  They gave you a citation for what?
[23:48.000 --> 23:55.000]  Currently, I drove without due care or caution.
[23:55.000 --> 24:04.000]  Okay. And what are the elements of this alleged charge?
[24:04.000 --> 24:06.000]  I don't understand.
[24:06.000 --> 24:10.000]  Have you read the statute that this charge applies to?
[24:10.000 --> 24:12.000]  Yes. Yes, I have.
[24:12.000 --> 24:13.000]  Okay.
[24:13.000 --> 24:15.000]  It's a rather vague statute.
[24:15.000 --> 24:17.000]  Exactly.
[24:17.000 --> 24:22.000]  So, again, you can't be held liable for act of God, can you?
[24:22.000 --> 24:23.000]  No.
[24:23.000 --> 24:30.000]  Okay. Now, how do they intend to prove, and you said that it was negligent?
[24:30.000 --> 24:31.000]  Right.
[24:31.000 --> 24:34.000]  So how do they intend to prove negligent?
[24:34.000 --> 24:36.000]  They can't prove negligent.
[24:36.000 --> 24:39.000]  That's why I'm contesting it.
[24:39.000 --> 24:42.000]  Yeah. And so that's the point.
[24:42.000 --> 24:45.000]  The one issue that I'm having with is I stopped by the courthouse today.
[24:45.000 --> 24:48.000]  I haven't signed anything or anything like that yet.
[24:48.000 --> 24:57.000]  But they say that I can't actually press forward with a hearing until I sign the ticket and hand it in,
[24:57.000 --> 25:04.000]  saying that I deny responsibility.
[25:04.000 --> 25:14.000]  Well, no, the ticket is not a proper answer to the accusation if this is civil.
[25:14.000 --> 25:21.000]  So don't sign their ticket, file a formal pleading with the court, presuming that this is an actual court.
[25:21.000 --> 25:23.000]  Is it a court?
[25:23.000 --> 25:24.000]  It is a court.
[25:24.000 --> 25:25.000]  Okay.
[25:25.000 --> 25:35.000]  Do you know for a fact that it is a court, a judicial court, with an actual judicial qualified judge sitting?
[25:35.000 --> 25:45.000]  Or is this some podunk commissioner or clerk pretending to be a judge?
[25:45.000 --> 25:47.000]  I'm writing all this down.
[25:47.000 --> 25:52.000]  Because you said civil, which means this could very well be administrative.
[25:52.000 --> 26:01.000]  So what are we dealing with here?
[26:01.000 --> 26:04.000]  I honestly don't know at this point now.
[26:04.000 --> 26:13.000]  Well, these are things you need to know because they change the rules of the game.
[26:13.000 --> 26:17.000]  And when it comes to actually being part of the formal hearing,
[26:17.000 --> 26:26.000]  should I actually be arguing that I'm not liable for any damages or that it's not my fault?
[26:26.000 --> 26:28.000]  You're not going to argue anything.
[26:28.000 --> 26:32.000]  They have the burden of proof, not you.
[26:32.000 --> 26:33.000]  Okay.
[26:33.000 --> 26:37.000]  So I'm simply going to assert, what is your evidence of negligence?
[26:37.000 --> 26:40.000]  And if they try to say, well, negligence is not an issue here,
[26:40.000 --> 26:50.000]  if it's written into the statute that negligence is an issue, then it's dang well an issue.
[26:50.000 --> 26:52.000]  So what is your evidence of negligence?
[26:52.000 --> 26:54.000]  Well, you wound up in the ditch.
[26:54.000 --> 26:57.000]  Well, yeah, but you idiots could have come up there and shoved me into the ditch.
[26:57.000 --> 27:00.000]  That doesn't make me negligent.
[27:00.000 --> 27:07.000]  I imagine it helps my case that the officer in question, he was not even close to me until about an hour after.
[27:07.000 --> 27:09.000]  Yeah, he didn't witness anything.
[27:09.000 --> 27:13.000]  So that makes the ticket itself fraud upon its face.
[27:13.000 --> 27:15.000]  The officer cannot testify to negligence.
[27:15.000 --> 27:19.000]  He wasn't present when it occurred.
[27:19.000 --> 27:21.000]  Was there any other witnesses?
[27:21.000 --> 27:22.000]  No.
[27:22.000 --> 27:23.000]  Okay.
[27:23.000 --> 27:28.000]  So how does he intend to substantiate the negligence portion?
[27:28.000 --> 27:30.000]  The appearance simply can't, can it?
[27:30.000 --> 27:36.000]  Exactly.
[27:36.000 --> 27:42.000]  So I'd file a formal pleading for a motion to dismiss lack of evidence.
[27:42.000 --> 27:44.000]  There was no witness.
[27:44.000 --> 27:47.000]  The officer cannot testify to something he didn't see.
[27:47.000 --> 27:57.000]  And there is no proof of negligence.
[27:57.000 --> 27:58.000]  Okay.
[27:58.000 --> 27:59.000]  Thank you very much, Eddie.
[27:59.000 --> 28:01.000]  Okay.
[28:01.000 --> 28:02.000]  All right.
[28:02.000 --> 28:03.000]  Glad to help.
[28:03.000 --> 28:04.000]  Have a great night.
[28:04.000 --> 28:05.000]  You too.
[28:05.000 --> 28:06.000]  Bye-bye.
[28:06.000 --> 28:07.000]  All right.
[28:07.000 --> 28:09.000]  Now we're going to go to George in Texas.
[28:09.000 --> 28:11.000]  George, what can we do for you?
[28:11.000 --> 28:13.000]  Well, how are you doing?
[28:13.000 --> 28:15.000]  Happy birthday.
[28:15.000 --> 28:16.000]  I mean, happy New Year.
[28:16.000 --> 28:18.000]  Excuse me.
[28:18.000 --> 28:19.000]  First, are you aware-
[28:19.000 --> 28:23.000]  Are you trying to infer I'm Father Time or something here?
[28:23.000 --> 28:24.000]  No, sorry.
[28:24.000 --> 28:28.000]  But another thing, I don't know if you have heard, but you're aware that Officer Jack
[28:28.000 --> 28:30.000]  McLam passed away last weekend?
[28:30.000 --> 28:31.000]  No, I'm not.
[28:31.000 --> 28:33.000]  You know, are you familiar who he is?
[28:33.000 --> 28:35.000]  I am very familiar with who he is.
[28:35.000 --> 28:38.000]  Operation Vampire 2000.
[28:38.000 --> 28:43.000]  Yeah, and the new one, the other vampire, Operation Vamp-
[28:43.000 --> 28:46.000]  Well, he passed away last weekend.
[28:46.000 --> 28:48.000]  His family plugged him from a respirator.
[28:48.000 --> 28:50.000]  He just wanted to pass it on to the audience.
[28:50.000 --> 28:56.000]  I'm trying to pass the news on to Alex Jones, and they're caught up in Fukushima out west.
[28:56.000 --> 29:01.000]  I just hope he can take a little time for that, but if he doesn't, oh, well.
[29:01.000 --> 29:03.000]  But anyway, I sat there.
[29:03.000 --> 29:12.000]  I talked to one of the police officers who was going to be doing some federal checkpoint in Harris County,
[29:12.000 --> 29:15.000]  and I asked him, I said, you know what you're doing?
[29:15.000 --> 29:20.000]  And I asked him, I said, before you go in these checkpoints, he went and read those cooperative agreements
[29:20.000 --> 29:27.000]  that the city of Houston signed with the National Transportation Safety Board and Homeland Security.
[29:27.000 --> 29:29.000]  And guess what he found out?
[29:29.000 --> 29:33.000]  That really, when these officers do these checkpoints,
[29:33.000 --> 29:36.000]  they really have no legal protection as a peace officer,
[29:36.000 --> 29:42.000]  because you gave the statue about what a peace officer is,
[29:42.000 --> 29:45.000]  throwing papers with federal money, not a peace officer.
[29:45.000 --> 29:47.000]  Yeah. Well, hang on just a second, George.
[29:47.000 --> 29:49.000]  We're going to take a break, and we'll finish this on the other side.
[29:49.000 --> 29:54.000]  All right, folks, call at number 512-646-1984.
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[29:57.000 --> 30:01.000]  but let's get on the board and talk.
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[33:30.000 --> 33:57.000]  All right, folks, we are back.
[33:57.000 --> 34:02.000]  Rule of Law Radio, calling number 512-646-1984.
[34:02.000 --> 34:05.000]  We are talking to George in Texas.
[34:05.000 --> 34:07.000]  All right, George, continue.
[34:07.000 --> 34:09.000]  Well, right now I'm in the process.
[34:09.000 --> 34:14.000]  I'm getting a Freedom of Information Act request from the City of Austin, the City of Houston, the City of Dallas.
[34:14.000 --> 34:20.000]  On all the cooperative agreements, they have a Homeland Security, National Transportation Safety Board,
[34:20.000 --> 34:25.000]  because I want to look at these cooperative agreements because I looked at the cooperative agreements
[34:25.000 --> 34:33.000]  with the county government has with the Child Protective Services and the Social Security Administration.
[34:33.000 --> 34:41.000]  In these agreements, they have the police department, Child Protective Services, as independent contractors,
[34:41.000 --> 34:47.000]  which I hope I can get what the real legal definition is,
[34:47.000 --> 34:52.000]  because if the police are signed on as independent contractors for the federal government,
[34:52.000 --> 34:55.000]  that means they're not really police officers.
[34:55.000 --> 34:59.000]  They're wearing the uniforms or using the squad cars, but are they really police officers?
[34:59.000 --> 35:06.000]  Are they really peace officers, as you pointed out in one of the Texas statutes in one of your previous shows?
[35:06.000 --> 35:11.000]  Yes, a peace officer is defined in 2.12 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[35:11.000 --> 35:19.000]  Yes, and the thing is, a police department going out violating people's rights for federal grant money,
[35:19.000 --> 35:24.000]  they no longer are peace officers, and they don't realize that they lose their sovereign immunity.
[35:24.000 --> 35:28.000]  They have no legal protection.
[35:28.000 --> 35:30.000]  Well, the thing about it is, the question would be,
[35:30.000 --> 35:38.000]  are they actually acting in the capacity of a local police officer when they're acting as an agent for a federal agency via contract?
[35:38.000 --> 35:43.000]  See, that completely distinguishes the capacity in which they're operating.
[35:43.000 --> 35:52.000]  If they're acting as a federal contractor, then they're not acting in their local capacity as a police officer.
[35:52.000 --> 35:53.000]  They may be trying to.
[35:53.000 --> 36:01.000]  They may be trying to wear the uniform, but if they're attempting to do the will of the feds at the local level,
[36:01.000 --> 36:12.000]  then they're not acting in their capacity as a local anything, and that's a very big legal distinction.
[36:12.000 --> 36:13.000]  Exactly.
[36:13.000 --> 36:20.000]  It's just like those Dallas County sheriff's deputies who attacked the protests at the JFK Memorial.
[36:20.000 --> 36:26.000]  They're acting under Homeland Security, but they're wearing Dallas County sheriff's uniforms.
[36:26.000 --> 36:30.000]  Yeah, well, that's the sheriff's fault right there.
[36:30.000 --> 36:42.000]  And the problem is the San Antonio sheriff, by all evidence currently available, is an unconstitutional moron.
[36:42.000 --> 36:49.000]  Well, most of these big city sheriffs and police officers are unconstitutional morons.
[36:49.000 --> 36:53.000]  Well, couldn't disagree with that.
[36:53.000 --> 37:02.000]  But you know, one thing, I know somebody who's right now who just go to prison because he tried using patriot mythology in court, too.
[37:02.000 --> 37:08.000]  I'm going on with the straw man type of thing, and it didn't work for him.
[37:08.000 --> 37:13.000]  No, that's because there isn't any such thing.
[37:13.000 --> 37:18.000]  Well, it's just like for me, I just go on to say if you don't really know what you're doing when you walk into a court,
[37:18.000 --> 37:21.000]  they're going to chew you up, spit you out, and stump all over you.
[37:21.000 --> 37:28.000]  Yeah, and the problem is most people take the fact that they don't want to just deal with them on one particular day of success for the future,
[37:28.000 --> 37:33.000]  and that just is not going to hold water for very long.
[37:33.000 --> 37:35.000]  Well, I just see it like this.
[37:35.000 --> 37:41.000]  I mean, I'm not going out of my way to go into the court system.
[37:41.000 --> 37:43.000]  I'm not going out of my way to get into the system.
[37:43.000 --> 37:48.000]  I'm trying to stay clear away from the system as far as I can.
[37:48.000 --> 37:56.000]  I mean, I'm like doing like what Alex Jones probably said, withdrawing our consent from the system as much as possible,
[37:56.000 --> 38:01.000]  not giving them anything to go on.
[38:01.000 --> 38:03.000]  And I think that's what everybody should be doing.
[38:03.000 --> 38:05.000]  If we're not in the system, we don't go into the system.
[38:05.000 --> 38:10.000]  We should start gradually withdrawing our consent and disconnecting from the system.
[38:10.000 --> 38:14.000]  Well, the thing about it is, is the proper method for withdrawing that consent.
[38:14.000 --> 38:18.000]  That's where most people make the mistake.
[38:18.000 --> 38:22.000]  Well, I didn't enroll in Obamacare.
[38:22.000 --> 38:24.000]  I don't intend to enroll in Obamacare.
[38:24.000 --> 38:29.000]  And I tell everybody I come in contact with, don't enroll in Obamacare.
[38:29.000 --> 38:31.000]  It's a tar baby.
[38:31.000 --> 38:34.000]  Once you touch it, you can't get rid of it.
[38:34.000 --> 38:35.000]  Yeah.
[38:35.000 --> 38:36.000]  Well, thank you.
[38:36.000 --> 38:37.000]  All right.
[38:37.000 --> 38:38.000]  Well, thanks for calling in, George.
[38:38.000 --> 38:39.000]  All right.
[38:39.000 --> 38:40.000]  Thank you.
[38:40.000 --> 38:45.000]  The other thing I was telling people, one of the posts I did on Facebook, is that they keep asking,
[38:45.000 --> 38:47.000]  well, how do I opt out of Obamacare?
[38:47.000 --> 38:51.000]  Well, how do you opt out of something you weren't in?
[38:51.000 --> 38:57.000]  And the way this system is set up, this is how this is most likely going to work.
[38:57.000 --> 39:01.000]  If you sign up, they have all of your private information.
[39:01.000 --> 39:08.000]  If you wish to opt out, you can only do so by giving them all of your private information.
[39:08.000 --> 39:19.000]  Well, I'm sorry, but they don't have the power to opt me in in the first place against my will without my consent, period.
[39:19.000 --> 39:28.000]  That's like me saying, look, I'm going to post a sign on my front door that everybody in the world owes me $5.
[39:28.000 --> 39:37.000]  If you wish to opt out of owing me $5, then you have to send me a check for $3 registered mail
[39:37.000 --> 39:42.000]  to prove that you don't want to have to pay me $5.
[39:42.000 --> 39:47.000]  Let's see how far I get with that little project.
[39:47.000 --> 39:52.000]  Well, Obamacare is working exactly the same way.
[39:52.000 --> 39:54.000]  I'm not entitled to the $5.
[39:54.000 --> 39:56.000]  I'm not entitled to the $3.
[39:56.000 --> 40:04.000]  I'm not entitled for you to have to respond to me in any way, shape, or form just because I decreed it so.
[40:04.000 --> 40:10.000]  Well, the president cannot make such decrees, nor can the U.S. Congress.
[40:10.000 --> 40:15.000]  And that, folks, is what too many of you are tending to forget.
[40:15.000 --> 40:26.000]  Their power is limited, very limited, in fact, far more than they want you to believe.
[40:26.000 --> 40:28.000]  So learn that or perish.
[40:28.000 --> 40:31.000]  That's pretty much the way it's going to work.
[40:31.000 --> 40:34.000]  All right, now we're going to go to Joe in Illinois.
[40:34.000 --> 40:37.000]  He is my last caller, so I'm going to need some more, folks.
[40:37.000 --> 40:40.000]  512-646-1984.
[40:40.000 --> 40:42.000]  Joe, what can I do for you?
[40:42.000 --> 40:47.000]  Eddie Craig, greetings from the People's Republic of Illinois.
[40:47.000 --> 40:50.000]  It's an honor and privilege to speak to you, my friend.
[40:50.000 --> 40:53.000]  I have been doing...
[40:53.000 --> 40:56.000]  You don't get out much, do you there, Joe?
[40:56.000 --> 40:59.000]  Well, you found me out.
[40:59.000 --> 41:06.000]  But in any case, not all being said, I had a couple of things that I want to talk to you tonight,
[41:06.000 --> 41:10.000]  one of which immediately I think I probably know the answer to this one,
[41:10.000 --> 41:16.000]  but my son, he's 16 years old, typical product of a broken home,
[41:16.000 --> 41:21.000]  and he lives with his mother and several other of his siblings,
[41:21.000 --> 41:24.000]  and he got into a little scrape with them,
[41:24.000 --> 41:28.000]  and they decided that they were going to impose their will on him.
[41:28.000 --> 41:30.000]  I got a call like 3 a.m. in the morning.
[41:30.000 --> 41:32.000]  They were beating the crap out of him.
[41:32.000 --> 41:34.000]  They being who?
[41:34.000 --> 41:39.000]  They being his mother and his brother, who are both above the age of consent and adult,
[41:39.000 --> 41:48.000]  and they would not listen to my reasoning to just leave him be in peace in a common law sense,
[41:48.000 --> 41:52.000]  and they proceeded to try to impose their will upon him.
[41:52.000 --> 41:53.000]  Of course, I wasn't there.
[41:53.000 --> 41:56.000]  I'm a whole state away, so there's nothing that I could do,
[41:56.000 --> 42:02.000]  but I advised them to call the police because I figure a peace officer is there to restore peace.
[42:02.000 --> 42:06.000]  Well, of course, they came in and did their jackbooted thug thing,
[42:06.000 --> 42:14.000]  and now he is a 16-year-old in court facing domestic violence charges.
[42:14.000 --> 42:16.000]  For being the victim?
[42:16.000 --> 42:20.000]  No, being the defendant.
[42:20.000 --> 42:22.000]  No, no, no, no.
[42:22.000 --> 42:23.000]  They were beating up on him.
[42:23.000 --> 42:25.000]  That makes him the victim.
[42:25.000 --> 42:26.000]  Correct.
[42:26.000 --> 42:29.000]  And he's the one that's going to court and facing the charges.
[42:29.000 --> 42:33.000]  Correct, but he got an attorney.
[42:33.000 --> 42:37.000]  I guess if you relate it to the medical terms, he got an aliopath,
[42:37.000 --> 42:41.000]  someone who's just trained to give drugs, and away they go.
[42:41.000 --> 42:49.000]  His attorney decided that he should automatically be found guilty,
[42:49.000 --> 42:56.000]  so his attorney tried to enroll him in all manner of punitive damage and service
[42:56.000 --> 42:59.000]  and thought that he should be going to alcoholics anonymous,
[42:59.000 --> 43:02.000]  thought that he should be drug tested every day.
[43:02.000 --> 43:05.000]  He began to submit to this, and he talked to me about it.
[43:05.000 --> 43:07.000]  I said, wait a minute, stop.
[43:07.000 --> 43:09.000]  What's going on here?
[43:09.000 --> 43:12.000]  He said, well, you know, I'm supposed to call in every day,
[43:12.000 --> 43:15.000]  and if my color's called, I'm supposed to go take a drug test,
[43:15.000 --> 43:17.000]  and I'm supposed to go to these meetings.
[43:17.000 --> 43:19.000]  And he said, Dad, these people are creepy.
[43:19.000 --> 43:21.000]  I don't want anything to do with them.
[43:21.000 --> 43:26.000]  I said, well, how is it that the judge did this to you?
[43:26.000 --> 43:29.000]  Didn't he listen to what you guys had to say?
[43:29.000 --> 43:31.000]  Because I haven't been before a judge.
[43:31.000 --> 43:34.000]  I said, excuse me?
[43:34.000 --> 43:35.000]  I hear your music.
[43:35.000 --> 43:36.000]  Yeah, okay.
[43:36.000 --> 43:37.000]  Well, hang on, Joe.
[43:37.000 --> 43:39.000]  We'll pick this up on the other side, okay?
[43:39.000 --> 43:40.000]  Okay.
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[46:20.000 --> 46:21.000]  All right, folks, we are back.
[46:21.000 --> 46:25.000]  Rule of Law Radio calling number 512-646-1984.
[46:25.000 --> 46:28.000]  We are talking to Joe in Illinois.
[46:28.000 --> 46:31.000]  All right, Joe, let me catch back up here on everything
[46:31.000 --> 46:35.000]  and ask a couple of questions before you continue on.
[46:35.000 --> 46:38.000]  First, your son is 16.
[46:38.000 --> 46:41.000]  He is being charged with a domestic violence charge
[46:41.000 --> 46:43.000]  because he was actually being beat up
[46:43.000 --> 46:47.000]  by his mother and his older brother.
[46:47.000 --> 46:49.000]  The cops were called.
[46:49.000 --> 46:51.000]  They were given a story that he was the one
[46:51.000 --> 46:53.000]  that was being the problem,
[46:53.000 --> 46:56.000]  and thus they charged and or arrested him.
[46:56.000 --> 46:58.000]  And then he was given, I'm assuming,
[46:58.000 --> 47:01.000]  a court-appointed lawyer?
[47:01.000 --> 47:05.000]  That's pretty much correct, except they did not charge him.
[47:05.000 --> 47:07.000]  They did not arrest him.
[47:07.000 --> 47:10.000]  They took him briefly into custody,
[47:10.000 --> 47:13.000]  and without informing of his rights,
[47:13.000 --> 47:15.000]  they required a statement
[47:15.000 --> 47:19.000]  and tried to collect other evidence.
[47:19.000 --> 47:20.000]  Well, then they arrested him,
[47:20.000 --> 47:22.000]  whether they told him that or not,
[47:22.000 --> 47:24.000]  because if they arrested him
[47:24.000 --> 47:25.000]  or got him to make any statements
[47:25.000 --> 47:27.000]  while they had him in custody,
[47:27.000 --> 47:29.000]  that was not voluntary.
[47:29.000 --> 47:30.000]  Correct.
[47:30.000 --> 47:32.000]  And so anything they got
[47:32.000 --> 47:35.000]  should have been suppressed immediately
[47:35.000 --> 47:37.000]  as fruit of the poison tree.
[47:37.000 --> 47:38.000]  Exactly.
[47:38.000 --> 47:41.000]  And that was my point to him,
[47:41.000 --> 47:44.000]  is that your attorney not only is not doing you a favor
[47:44.000 --> 47:48.000]  because when the police, at my advice,
[47:48.000 --> 47:50.000]  because they wouldn't listen to me otherwise,
[47:50.000 --> 47:52.000]  I told them some of the police,
[47:52.000 --> 47:55.000]  I figured they would put things right,
[47:55.000 --> 47:59.000]  but instead they did typically what police today
[47:59.000 --> 48:01.000]  are taught to do, is be jack-booted thugs.
[48:01.000 --> 48:03.000]  They took him into custody.
[48:03.000 --> 48:05.000]  They did not inform him of his rights,
[48:05.000 --> 48:08.000]  so he was under custodial arrest.
[48:08.000 --> 48:10.000]  They took statements from him,
[48:10.000 --> 48:12.000]  and they made a report.
[48:12.000 --> 48:14.000]  It was the prosecuting attorney
[48:14.000 --> 48:17.000]  who decided to go forward with it.
[48:17.000 --> 48:20.000]  The prosecuting attorney, as I understand it,
[48:20.000 --> 48:24.000]  because I have not actually seen the complaint,
[48:24.000 --> 48:27.000]  I believe is acting as the complainant
[48:27.000 --> 48:32.000]  because no one has seized power attorney from either of...
[48:32.000 --> 48:36.000]  Well, the prosecutor cannot be the complainant.
[48:36.000 --> 48:39.000]  Yes, I understand that.
[48:39.000 --> 48:42.000]  So basically getting railroaded by the system,
[48:42.000 --> 48:44.000]  and you and I both know,
[48:44.000 --> 48:47.000]  and of course I'm sure your listeners know,
[48:47.000 --> 48:53.000]  that the system is truly just set up to glean money.
[48:53.000 --> 48:56.000]  It's not anything about justice.
[48:56.000 --> 48:58.000]  It's political, as one of your other hosts
[48:58.000 --> 49:01.000]  likes to say on his show.
[49:01.000 --> 49:05.000]  So in any case, he was all upset
[49:05.000 --> 49:07.000]  that he'd gotten his ticket for domestic violence.
[49:07.000 --> 49:09.000]  He sent me the ticket in the mail.
[49:09.000 --> 49:10.000]  I got it. I read it.
[49:10.000 --> 49:11.000]  I said, this is not a ticket.
[49:11.000 --> 49:12.000]  This is merely a report.
[49:12.000 --> 49:14.000]  I said, I wouldn't worry about anything.
[49:14.000 --> 49:16.000]  Suddenly he finds himself with a court date
[49:16.000 --> 49:18.000]  and a court-appointed attorney.
[49:18.000 --> 49:20.000]  The court-appointed attorney says,
[49:20.000 --> 49:24.000]  it looks like you've done very bad things, son.
[49:24.000 --> 49:25.000]  I tell you what you do.
[49:25.000 --> 49:28.000]  Start showing up to drug testing.
[49:28.000 --> 49:30.000]  Start showing up to alcoholics,
[49:30.000 --> 49:32.000]  anonymous meetings.
[49:32.000 --> 49:35.000]  Start hanging out with very creepy, problematic people
[49:35.000 --> 49:38.000]  when you haven't done anything wrong in your entire life.
[49:38.000 --> 49:39.000]  You have no record.
[49:39.000 --> 49:43.000]  You've never, you haven't even been, you skipped a class.
[49:43.000 --> 49:45.000]  But go ahead and start doing all this stuff
[49:45.000 --> 49:47.000]  like you're guilty,
[49:47.000 --> 49:50.000]  and then when we get to court, that'll look good.
[49:50.000 --> 49:52.000]  My son interpreted that
[49:52.000 --> 49:55.000]  because he's been taught to obey his elders
[49:55.000 --> 49:56.000]  and his authority,
[49:56.000 --> 49:58.000]  that that's something he had to do.
[49:58.000 --> 50:00.000]  And when he approached me about it,
[50:00.000 --> 50:04.000]  I said, no, unless a judge says you have to do something,
[50:04.000 --> 50:05.000]  you have to do anything.
[50:05.000 --> 50:09.000]  And your attorney should be mounting a vigorous defense
[50:09.000 --> 50:10.000]  against all of that.
[50:10.000 --> 50:12.000]  But he's putting you in the system.
[50:12.000 --> 50:16.000]  So I told him to fire the guy
[50:16.000 --> 50:18.000]  and to represent himself.
[50:18.000 --> 50:20.000]  And I said, I would help you at every turn
[50:20.000 --> 50:23.000]  because I've handled my own divorce.
[50:23.000 --> 50:27.000]  I've handled all of my own legal matters for years.
[50:27.000 --> 50:33.000]  I must say that I've been woefully inadequate at it.
[50:33.000 --> 50:36.000]  And after listening to some of your things,
[50:36.000 --> 50:38.000]  and I listened to that two and a half hour presentation
[50:38.000 --> 50:41.000]  you gave on right to travel two times,
[50:41.000 --> 50:45.000]  and I'd say I'm better prepared now than I ever was.
[50:45.000 --> 50:48.000]  But as an improv say,
[50:48.000 --> 50:50.000]  my success has gone through the roof
[50:50.000 --> 50:55.000]  as opposed to ever having anything handled by an attorney.
[50:55.000 --> 50:58.000]  Because they always just want to take you
[50:58.000 --> 51:02.000]  as a lamb to the slaughter, as it were.
[51:02.000 --> 51:03.000]  Absolutely.
[51:03.000 --> 51:07.000]  So my question to you is, he's 16 years old.
[51:07.000 --> 51:10.000]  I just talked to him a little bit ago about it.
[51:10.000 --> 51:11.000]  And God bless him.
[51:11.000 --> 51:12.000]  He's a good kid.
[51:12.000 --> 51:15.000]  He does basically everything I said.
[51:15.000 --> 51:18.000]  His mother keeps telling him, just roll over.
[51:18.000 --> 51:20.000]  Just do what you're told.
[51:20.000 --> 51:23.000]  Just go along with the system.
[51:23.000 --> 51:27.000]  And his attorneys told him that you're probably going to get probation.
[51:27.000 --> 51:29.000]  You're probably going to get drug testing.
[51:29.000 --> 51:31.000]  So you might as well start doing it anyway.
[51:31.000 --> 51:33.000]  A kid who's done nothing,
[51:33.000 --> 51:37.000]  a kid who was peacefully sleeping in his room,
[51:37.000 --> 51:40.000]  and a kid who was accosted by these two adults
[51:40.000 --> 51:46.000]  and out of nowhere just demanded to do certain things.
[51:46.000 --> 51:50.000]  And when he informed them in his 16-year-old way
[51:50.000 --> 51:52.000]  that he just wanted to be left alone,
[51:52.000 --> 51:55.000]  they pin him to the floor and beat the shit out of him.
[51:55.000 --> 51:58.000]  And I have the pictures to prove it.
[51:58.000 --> 52:02.000]  He now finds himself as the defendant in the whole thing.
[52:02.000 --> 52:04.000]  So my question to you is,
[52:04.000 --> 52:09.000]  can a 16-year-old defend himself in pro se in a juvenile court?
[52:09.000 --> 52:13.000]  That depends entirely on how the rules are written for that court.
[52:13.000 --> 52:16.000]  For instance, here in Texas under Chapter 45,
[52:16.000 --> 52:22.000]  anyone under a particular age has to have the company of a guardian
[52:22.000 --> 52:24.000]  or the parent or whatever.
[52:24.000 --> 52:29.000]  Whoever's the legal guardian has to be present when that child appears in court.
[52:29.000 --> 52:33.000]  Now as to whether or not the child's allowed to speak,
[52:33.000 --> 52:38.000]  other than answering questions, it does not address that.
[52:38.000 --> 52:42.000]  But since the guardian has to be present,
[52:42.000 --> 52:47.000]  then odds are the guardian is the one going to be held responsible
[52:47.000 --> 52:49.000]  for addressing the court.
[52:49.000 --> 52:53.000]  So it depends entirely on how the rules are set up for juveniles
[52:53.000 --> 52:56.000]  in your particular state.
[52:56.000 --> 52:57.000]  Okay.
[52:57.000 --> 53:02.000]  So that being said, who has legal custody?
[53:02.000 --> 53:06.000]  Is it joint custody or is it one?
[53:06.000 --> 53:07.000]  Joint.
[53:07.000 --> 53:08.000]  Okay.
[53:08.000 --> 53:14.000]  If it's joint, then you can act on his behalf as a guardian.
[53:14.000 --> 53:17.000]  But you would have to be there to appear in court.
[53:17.000 --> 53:19.000]  I'll be happy to be there.
[53:19.000 --> 53:25.000]  Okay. Now that of course depends on whether or not his mother tries to be
[53:25.000 --> 53:32.000]  in opposition to that as the main guardian because he lives with her.
[53:32.000 --> 53:33.000]  Correct.
[53:33.000 --> 53:36.000]  In which case she could get up there and throw him right under the bus
[53:36.000 --> 53:38.000]  just like the attorney was doing.
[53:38.000 --> 53:41.000]  Well, I told the boy to get on the good foot
[53:41.000 --> 53:43.000]  and start engaging in witness tampering.
[53:43.000 --> 53:47.000]  I said, go butter up your brother, go butter up your mother,
[53:47.000 --> 53:52.000]  and ask him if they'll do you this one favor and not appear in court against you
[53:52.000 --> 53:55.000]  since they were the ones that whooped your ass.
[53:55.000 --> 53:58.000]  And just leave you in peace and let you handle this.
[53:58.000 --> 54:01.000]  Well, he can actually file countercharges.
[54:01.000 --> 54:07.000]  Now, as a minor, he can assert that he was physically assaulted by them.
[54:07.000 --> 54:12.000]  And believe it or not, but that may have a worse result than you can imagine
[54:12.000 --> 54:15.000]  because that's going to start invoking CPS.
[54:15.000 --> 54:17.000]  Right.
[54:17.000 --> 54:20.000]  But he could file countercharges against them,
[54:20.000 --> 54:23.000]  and that would throw a whole new batch of nuts and bolts into the gears
[54:23.000 --> 54:25.000]  of what they're doing.
[54:25.000 --> 54:29.000]  Is there a limitation on that?
[54:29.000 --> 54:36.000]  This happened about, I'm going to guess it, about three weeks ago.
[54:36.000 --> 54:42.000]  Well, he can always make the ineffective assistance of counsel argument.
[54:42.000 --> 54:46.000]  His attorney never asked him, never spoke with him regarding this.
[54:46.000 --> 54:49.000]  His attorney simply started throwing him under the bus,
[54:49.000 --> 54:53.000]  and he can make that assertion and he can prove it based upon what's being done.
[54:53.000 --> 54:59.000]  Now, the question is, did the attorney ever have anyone sign the documents?
[54:59.000 --> 55:00.000]  I asked him about that.
[55:00.000 --> 55:02.000]  I asked him, have you signed anything?
[55:02.000 --> 55:03.000]  Have you agreed to anything?
[55:03.000 --> 55:04.000]  Have you fled anything?
[55:04.000 --> 55:06.000]  And he said, no.
[55:06.000 --> 55:11.000]  Whether his mother has done it or not is a whole other case.
[55:11.000 --> 55:12.000]  I can't.
[55:12.000 --> 55:15.000]  Well, since he's the minor, he wouldn't be the one signing,
[55:15.000 --> 55:19.000]  but he should have at least been informed.
[55:19.000 --> 55:20.000]  Right.
[55:20.000 --> 55:22.000]  And that's where he's a little vague.
[55:22.000 --> 55:29.000]  And his attorney, again, is not only colluding with the prosecution on this
[55:29.000 --> 55:30.000]  and throwing him under the bus,
[55:30.000 --> 55:35.000]  but he's also basically buttering up his mother and flattering her
[55:35.000 --> 55:39.000]  and making her think she's important so that he doesn't have to do anything
[55:39.000 --> 55:41.000]  and collects his fees and go home.
[55:41.000 --> 55:42.000]  Okay.
[55:42.000 --> 55:48.000]  That's witness tampering.
[55:48.000 --> 55:54.000]  Good.
[55:54.000 --> 55:57.000]  Where do we take that?
[55:57.000 --> 56:01.000]  Those charges would need to be made against the attorney in court.
[56:01.000 --> 56:03.000]  Okay.
[56:03.000 --> 56:08.000]  And if your son has actually been a witness to any of that type of activity
[56:08.000 --> 56:12.000]  that the attorney has done such and such an attempt to get the mother to agree
[56:12.000 --> 56:16.000]  to do these things that's not in the child's best interest,
[56:16.000 --> 56:21.000]  then he can say his own attorney is tampering with the witnesses against him
[56:21.000 --> 56:26.000]  through his mother because she is one of the witnesses.
[56:26.000 --> 56:27.000]  Excellent.
[56:27.000 --> 56:28.000]  Okay.
[56:28.000 --> 56:32.000]  Then I will send him an email informing him of all that.
[56:32.000 --> 56:35.000]  He's got a meeting with his attorney tomorrow.
[56:35.000 --> 56:38.000]  I told him I'm available to consult.
[56:38.000 --> 56:40.000]  I spoke to his attorney once.
[56:40.000 --> 56:43.000]  Of course, he wouldn't discuss the case with me,
[56:43.000 --> 56:45.000]  but I did ask his attorney point blank.
[56:45.000 --> 56:50.000]  I said if his mother and brother do not appear as the real party of interest
[56:50.000 --> 56:52.000]  against him, does the prosecutor have a case?
[56:52.000 --> 56:55.000]  He said, well, of course not.
[56:55.000 --> 56:57.000]  Well, of course not.
[56:57.000 --> 57:03.000]  So here is his attorney telling me that if his family members don't cooperate,
[57:03.000 --> 57:05.000]  there's no case yet.
[57:05.000 --> 57:09.000]  He has told this boy who has never had a drug problem,
[57:09.000 --> 57:15.000]  has never had any kind of problems whatsoever with school anywhere,
[57:15.000 --> 57:20.000]  never been arrested, to go to drug counseling, to go to alcoholics anonymous,
[57:20.000 --> 57:24.000]  to go to all these different places to demonstrate to the court
[57:24.000 --> 57:29.000]  how sincerely sorry he is for getting his ass with.
[57:29.000 --> 57:33.000]  Okay, just do me a favor and kind of edge off the language just a little.
[57:33.000 --> 57:36.000]  Debra is not going to be happy without her, so let's keep doing that.
[57:36.000 --> 57:38.000]  Oh, sorry about that. Sorry.
[57:38.000 --> 57:39.000]  Okay.
[57:39.000 --> 57:40.000]  I get a little...
[57:40.000 --> 57:41.000]  Yeah, I understand.
[57:41.000 --> 57:42.000]  Believe me.
[57:42.000 --> 57:45.000]  I've been there myself, but not with the child, of course,
[57:45.000 --> 57:46.000]  but with the language part.
[57:46.000 --> 57:52.000]  But in any case, in relation to what's going on with him, you're correct.
[57:52.000 --> 57:55.000]  He can actually, when he meets with his attorney,
[57:55.000 --> 57:57.000]  I would make sure the email specifically states
[57:57.000 --> 58:01.000]  that he is going to move the court for his removal as counsel.
[58:01.000 --> 58:06.000]  He is going to accuse him of tampering with the witnesses in the case
[58:06.000 --> 58:12.000]  and attempting to railroad him against his own best interest as his attorney
[58:12.000 --> 58:17.000]  into taking all these extra expensive things,
[58:17.000 --> 58:20.000]  and he's never even been before a judge.
[58:20.000 --> 58:22.000]  There you go. Okay, good.
[58:22.000 --> 58:27.000]  The other thing that I had I wanted to talk about just briefly was about taking my own
[58:27.000 --> 58:34.000]  in-prose action to the next level as far as filing federal charges.
[58:34.000 --> 58:36.000]  Okay, well, hang on to that thought right there, Joe,
[58:36.000 --> 58:38.000]  and we'll finish that up on the other side, okay?
[58:38.000 --> 58:41.000]  Tom, Russ, I see y'all there. Y'all hang on.
[58:41.000 --> 58:44.000]  Doug, we'll be right back after this break.
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[01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:51.000]  In the news today, a Spokane Washington bar joins the Bitcoin revolution.
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[01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:20.000]  The director of the FBI can't understand any praise for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden,
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[01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.000]  Talking to reporters last week, Jim Comey said because all three branches of government
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[01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:34.000]  since the system is working as the founders intended.
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[01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.000]  All right, folks, we are back.
[01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:33.000]  We are in the top of our second hour for our Monday night show,
[01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:36.000]  and we are talking to Joe in Illinois.
[01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:39.000]  All right, Joe, let's see if we can wrap this up here.
[01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.000]  Yes, thanks, Andy.
[01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:45.000]  The last thing I really wanted to talk to you about is putting teeth in an
[01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:47.000]  in-pro-state action.
[01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:53.000]  As we both know, a lot of times judges will rule against you,
[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  not out of a sense of duty to the law, but just because they want to.
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:03.000]  And I really want to learn how to take that to the next step because, you know,
[01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  I spent 10 years in the military, as you did, and I took an oath,
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:14.000]  and I really, really have been searching for something that I could do to try
[01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.000]  to start getting our rights back.
[01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:20.000]  I mean, I really paid for these rights.
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:23.000]  I spent 10 years in the field as a U.S. Army Ranger.
[01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:24.000]  I've been hurt.
[01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:29.000]  You know, I did a lot for this country because I felt that it was my duty.
[01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:36.000]  And now I come home to find that the enemies are now domestic.
[01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:41.000]  So to put teeth in what I want to do in terms of defending our rights,
[01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:47.000]  I want to be able to study and know how to take these elected officials,
[01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.000]  judges, police officers to task.
[01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:57.000]  Where do I go to find out how to file charges, what charges are relevant,
[01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:01.000]  how I get to standing, and how I do it in a federal court?
[01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:05.000]  Well, anyone has standing to file a criminal complaint,
[01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.000]  with the exception of, of course, the prosecuting attorney's office.
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:16.000]  But anyone that knows of a crime or suspects a crime has been committed
[01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:20.000]  and knows who the perpetrator is or a description of them
[01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:26.000]  actually has a legal duty to report such a crime and to file such a complaint.
[01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  So where you go if you want to file it through someone is your law enforcement agency.
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.000]  And you do that depending upon what type of charges you're going to bring,
[01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.000]  whether they be state or federal.
[01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:47.000]  I would start with my county sheriff, and if he won't do it,
[01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.000]  then the odds are the locals aren't going to do it,
[01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  especially if it's got anything to do with one of them.
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:57.000]  So after that, you would go to the FBI and pursue it as a federal matter
[01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:00.000]  if a federal right has been violated by their actions,
[01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.000]  federally protected right, let me put it that way.
[01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:06.000]  So that would be where you'd go to file the criminal complaint.
[01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:11.000]  As far as a cause of action in a civil forum,
[01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:14.000]  almost never will you get traction in a state court.
[01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.000]  Can it be done? Yes.
[01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:24.000]  But the state courts are very prone to dismissing anything that goes against one of its own.
[01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:28.000]  And so your best bet there is to take it through the federal courts,
[01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:34.000]  which again may or may not have the result you desire or the justice that you deserve.
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  But until we get a mass change of how we let them get away with this,
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.000]  it's still the best option you've got short of sneaking by their house
[01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  in the middle of the night and hauling them out and stringing them up in a tree.
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:53.000]  Yeah. I mean, if one guy throws rocks at the wall, it just makes a sound.
[01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:57.000]  But if a thousand of us do it, a million of us do it, it starts to make an effect.
[01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  But I guess more specifically, and my question is,
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:06.000]  is there some material that you have or someplace you would advise I go?
[01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:11.000]  Because I have never had any experience filing in the federal system.
[01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.000]  The best bet is to find cases.
[01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:22.000]  Go look up case law at the local law library and read about the particular charges you wish to make
[01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:30.000]  and read the case law associated with those charges to see exactly what the court says needed to be proven.
[01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:36.000]  And then tailor your complaints to suit those requirements.
[01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.000]  Tailor your suit to suit those requirements.
[01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:48.000]  But reading actual filings in those types of actions would be the best place to start.
[01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:49.000]  That's great advice.
[01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:53.000]  In fact, that's kind of how I've learned everything up to this point.
[01:07:53.000 --> 01:08:00.000]  Yeah. And that generally will give you what the court's way of thinking about things are as well,
[01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.000]  depending upon how old the case is, of course.
[01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:07.000]  Eddie, thanks so much for your time. God bless you, sir. Keep up the good fight.
[01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:11.000]  I salute you and I wish you all the best.
[01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.000]  Well, thank you, Joe. I wish the same for you and yours.
[01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:17.000]  And hopefully you'll be of help to your son there in his time of need.
[01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  Thank you.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:19.000]  Yes, sir. You have a good night.
[01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  You too. Bye-bye.
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  All right. Now we're going to go to Tom in Georgia.
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.000]  Tom, what can we do for you?
[01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:27.000]  Hey, Eddie.
[01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:31.000]  The last time I talked to you was back in the late September,
[01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:36.000]  just prior to my cases on the 30th of September.
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  The judge ruled against me in face of the law as well as the facts.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  I was amazed.
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:48.000]  But anyway, I read six Supreme Court cases into the record and her eyes glazed over.
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.000]  And she just looked at me and said, your motion dismissed is denied
[01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:58.000]  and then sentenced me to six months in jail for driving on a suspended license.
[01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  Took me from the courtroom right there. So three months passed.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:03.000]  The only reason I'm...
[01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.000]  Where was your jury trial?
[01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:09.000]  Well, what happened is just prior to the jury trial,
[01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.000]  it was scheduled for the 30th,
[01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  but the prosecutor filed a motion and limiting requiring me not to mention anything to do with the definitions,
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.000]  anything to do with travel versus driving.
[01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:26.000]  And I told the judge, I said, well, you're removing my...
[01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:27.000]  She granted it, by the way.
[01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.000]  And I said, you're removing my defense.
[01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:30.000]  Okay. Wait, wait, wait.
[01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:39.000]  How did the prosecutor get anything relating to your desired defense to make that motion and limiting?
[01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.000]  Because I was...
[01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:53.000]  During the lead up to it, I was filing different motions in the court to produce documents showing that I was in commerce or different things.
[01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:57.000]  It was basically trying to get the whole thing dismissed.
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.000]  I mean, I never...
[01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:05.000]  When they asked at arraignment how I pled, I said, well, please tell me the nature of this action.
[01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:06.000]  And they refused to do it.
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  The prosecutor said, well, you broke the laws of Georgia.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:11.000]  I said, that's not my question.
[01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:12.000]  This is criminal.
[01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:13.000]  It's penal.
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.000]  So is it common law or admiralty?
[01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  And he wouldn't say.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:21.000]  So they kept moving forward and I kept saying, well, I can't plead this.
[01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.000]  I don't have the information.
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:24.000]  It didn't matter.
[01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:26.000]  The judge pled for me over my objection.
[01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.000]  But so...
[01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  Okay.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:33.000]  How much actual time have you spent studying the laws of procedure for Georgia?
[01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:34.000]  Pardon me?
[01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:39.000]  How much time have you spent studying the criminal procedures for Georgia?
[01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  Quite a bit.
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:43.000]  Crap.
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:47.000]  Since, geez, almost 10 years now.
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:48.000]  Okay.
[01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:58.000]  And I would have to see your pleadings before I'd know where the prosecutor got this stuff from.
[01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  It was obvious they had been talking with the county that I was from because I had fought
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:05.000]  them down there too.
[01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  But also, through my, I believe my motions, my affidavits and so forth, put it together
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:13.000]  that I was challenging...
[01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:15.000]  The whole thing was about commerce.
[01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  I said I wasn't driving.
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.000]  I was traveling.
[01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  I challenged the police officer who said that I had two passengers in the car.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.000]  I said, do you know what the definition is?
[01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:24.000]  Okay.
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.000]  When were you convicted?
[01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.000]  September 30th.
[01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.000]  And have you filed your appeal?
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.000]  I filed appeal.
[01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.000]  They did their answer.
[01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:34.000]  I did a reply.
[01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:41.000]  Now, I had to have this done by a friend because the law library I was at had the law books,
[01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:45.000]  but no way to type up a brief, a motion, anything.
[01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:47.000]  You had to do it all by pencil.
[01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  And the only pencils you get are golf cart pencils.
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.000]  So a friend did it.
[01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:55.000]  He had been through the whole thing.
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.000]  He had a copy of all my motions.
[01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.000]  So he put it together, filed it in the appellate court.
[01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:04.000]  I'm waiting on that now.
[01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:10.000]  But in the meantime, I'm a doctor, and I happened to palpate or feel my stomach, and it was thumping,
[01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:13.000]  and I suspected an abdominal aortic aneurysm.
[01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:21.000]  So I brought that to the attention of the guard who got me to a nurse who blew me off for two months.
[01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:28.000]  And finally, I demanded under threat of grievance, writing a grievance, to be palpated by a doctor,
[01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  an MD, to either rule out or confirm my suspicion.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.000]  The doctor did come in.
[01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:44.000]  He palpated, felt my stomach, the side, and he says, okay, I'm ordering a CAT scan with and without contrast.
[01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  Within 20 minutes, the judge released me from the jail to go home, but it was conditional.
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:55.000]  I had to get this procedure done and return to the jail in seven days, which is day after tomorrow.
[01:12:55.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  I told the judge, I said, I told the police officer, I said, who's going to pay for this?
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.000]  He says, well, you are.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:02.000]  I said, I don't have that money.
[01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:03.000]  I don't have that kind of money.
[01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:04.000]  I don't have insurance.
[01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.000]  And I turned around to walk back to myself.
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:07.000]  He says, no, wait a minute.
[01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.000]  The judge has ordered you to be released.
[01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:11.000]  And I said, but I don't have any money.
[01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  And he says, well, I don't know how you're going to get it, but you have to get this procedure done
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.000]  and then return by 8 o'clock, and we'll put a warrant out for your arrest.
[01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:21.000]  So I got home.
[01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  I called the judge.
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:27.000]  I said, I need a copy of the order, and I also need a copy of the doctor's order.
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:28.000]  Well, I didn't get that.
[01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.000]  I didn't get the doctor's order.
[01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:36.000]  And after pushing it, I finally did get the order, and it was mailed to me.
[01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:37.000]  On Saturday, I got it.
[01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:38.000]  I got it on Thursday.
[01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:42.000]  On Saturday, I got the order, and it says, I'm released, time served.
[01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:47.000]  And I believe that she recognized that I was, well, she thought I was setting her up or something,
[01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:53.000]  because see, they released me so they wouldn't be responsible for the cost.
[01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:54.000]  Yeah.
[01:13:54.000 --> 01:14:00.000]  The problem is they advised me to commit fraud, which is to go into the emergency room,
[01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.000]  tell them that I had severe pain in my abdomen, which you don't.
[01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:04.000]  You don't get that.
[01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.000]  If you have that kind of pain, it's ruptured.
[01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.000]  You've got three minutes.
[01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:12.000]  But they're saying, you've got to go do this and do it as an indigence,
[01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  because they can't turn you away once you do that.
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:17.000]  You understand what I'm saying?
[01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:19.000]  Yeah, I know what you're saying.
[01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:22.000]  So what I'm wanting to do is, obviously, I would love to win on the appeal.
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:26.000]  I mean, there are several errors.
[01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:29.000]  They said I was driving on a suspended.
[01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:32.000]  Well, in Georgia, they have to show, once you challenge,
[01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.000]  they have to show on the record that they notified you.
[01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:37.000]  I was never notified.
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:40.000]  Although the prosecutor argued that when the police officer arrested me,
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:41.000]  I was notified.
[01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.000]  Well, that doesn't count.
[01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.000]  And I gave them Supreme Court cases that say,
[01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:48.000]  even though they suspected that the defendant had been notified
[01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.000]  until it was put on the record, it didn't exist,
[01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:53.000]  so they had to dismiss that case.
[01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.000]  Well, it didn't happen.
[01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:58.000]  And so, like I said, I withdrew from the jury,
[01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  because I didn't want to get up there and be stupid,
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.000]  because I had no defense now that they removed it.
[01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:08.000]  And I went through my motion to dismiss with the judge, read six Supreme Court cases,
[01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:12.000]  a federal and one Supreme Court case out of Georgia,
[01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.000]  about travel versus driving.
[01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:20.000]  And she finally, when I was finished, her eyes came back,
[01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.000]  and she said, I'm denying your motion.
[01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.000]  Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Let's stop right there.
[01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:26.000]  Yeah.
[01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.000]  All right. Let me clarify this once more.
[01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:30.000]  Yes.
[01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:38.000]  The proper defense to their allegations is never right to travel.
[01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.000]  Never.
[01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:41.000]  Okay.
[01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:42.000]  Never.
[01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  That's where I screwed up then.
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.000]  Okay.
[01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:50.000]  That's like somebody coming into you as a doctor
[01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:53.000]  and saying, I have severe pain around my kidneys,
[01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:57.000]  and you recognizing that, oh, well, you need a CAT scan of the brain.
[01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  Right.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.000]  They're completely different procedures for completely different things.
[01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:02.000]  Okay.
[01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:08.000]  They're accusing you of engaging in a commercial activity without the proper license.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:13.000]  Therefore, the proper defense is, I was never engaged in any such activity,
[01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.000]  and you must prove I was.
[01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:19.000]  Well, see, that's what I did initially.
[01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.000]  And the judge says, but you're always in commerce.
[01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.000]  I said, what are you talking about?
[01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.000]  Objection, legal presumption.
[01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.000]  Huh?
[01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:29.000]  I would have said objection.
[01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  That's a legal presumption.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:34.000]  What is your factual evidence that I was engaged in commerce?
[01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.000]  Well, see, she couldn't bring that up.
[01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  Exactly.
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:41.000]  So you should have left it on the record showing that she was, in fact,
[01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  arguing the case against you.
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.000]  That would mean she was not being fair and impartial.
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  Hang on just a second.
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:49.000]  Yeah.
[01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  All right, folks.
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:51.000]  This is Rural Law Radio.
[01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:52.000]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:56.000]  So y'all hang on, and we'll be right back.
[01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:24.000]  We'll be right back.
[01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:43.000]  Oh, and a quick shout out to Joe up in Illinois.
[01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.000]  Also, I clean forgot to mention this.
[01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:50.000]  If you want to learn how to properly do a lawsuit against these folks,
[01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.000]  regardless of the court you're in,
[01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:56.000]  you can go to the Logos Radio Network or the RuralLawRadio.com website
[01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.000]  and find the banner that says How to Win in Court
[01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:03.000]  and take a look at Dr. Gray's jurisdictionery package.
[01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:05.000]  Dr. Gray is a lawyer out of Florida.
[01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  He has put together a package to teach the layman how to properly write a lawsuit,
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:14.000]  whether it be state or federal,
[01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  and the jurisdictionery course is what he uses to do that.
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  It is very useful from the civil side,
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  so you may want to consider giving that a look-see as well.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  All right, that being said, we're going to go back to Tom in Georgia.
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  All right, Tom.
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:30.000]  Okay, just one other thing.
[01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.000]  I did keep harping on the fact, show me where I have committed a commercial act.
[01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:38.000]  The police officer was on the stand.
[01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.000]  He had written in his affidavit that he pulled me over
[01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  and he saw two passengers in my car.
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  I said, did you ever investigate if I had ever charged these two people in my car?
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:50.000]  He said, no.
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.000]  I said, then how do you know they were passengers?
[01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  He said, because they were riding in your car.
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:55.000]  I said, wait a minute.
[01:20:55.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  Georgia law at 41-113 says that a passenger is somebody you pick up for a fee or a fare.
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  He said, well, I didn't ask and it doesn't matter.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.000]  And the judge said, you're always in commerce.
[01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.000]  And I said, how is that?
[01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.000]  And she said, you buy gas.
[01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:13.000]  You buy cigarettes, don't you?
[01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:14.000]  And I said, yes, I do.
[01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.000]  I said, but that's not commerce.
[01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:21.000]  They don't pay me to go to the store and fill it up with gas.
[01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  That's retail.
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:30.000]  So anyway, I did have the argument about show me where you have evidence that I was in commerce.
[01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:36.000]  Okay, but the thing is, what constitutes evidence of commerce?
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:40.000]  Well, I would say testimony from, let's say, my, quote, passenger.
[01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:43.000]  Yes, I paid him 20 bucks to drive me down the road.
[01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  Okay, what else?
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:51.000]  Say a bill of lading that somebody paid me to do something.
[01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  A bill of lading, a passenger manifest, a commercial logbook,
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:59.000]  or direct testimony of payment of a fee or fare.
[01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:00.000]  Right.
[01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  And they had none of that.
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  Exactly.
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  And that's exactly the question you should have been asking.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  Where is the copy of the alleged passenger manifest?
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.000]  Well, I don't have one.
[01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:12.000]  There isn't one.
[01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:16.000]  I asked them for their proof that I was in commerce.
[01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.000]  Okay, stop and listen to what I'm telling you.
[01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:20.000]  Yeah, I'm listening.
[01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  You are generalizing the question.
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:27.000]  You are not asking specifics related to the facts to disprove commerce.
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.000]  That's the difference.
[01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.000]  I see.
[01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:35.000]  Did you or did you not obtain, discover, or receive from me during
[01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:39.000]  your alleged investigation a passenger manifest?
[01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  No.
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:45.000]  Did you receive, obtain, or otherwise discover a bill of lading?
[01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  No.
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:50.000]  Did you obtain, receive, or discover a commercial logbook?
[01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.000]  No.
[01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.000]  Did anyone ever confess or admit to paying a fare or a fee?
[01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:56.000]  No.
[01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  Did anyone ever confess to acting in a commercial capacity while
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  using the car or the roads?
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:03.000]  No.
[01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  Then where is your evidence of any commercial capacity?
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:10.000]  That's all.
[01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:11.000]  End of story.
[01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  No further questions.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  Thank you very much.
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:19.000]  When you generalize, you don't prove your case.
[01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  When you get them to admit specifics that are the foundation of their case
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:27.000]  and the fact that they don't have evidence supporting it,
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  you destroy theirs.
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:33.000]  I see.
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  Okay.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.000]  Now, does that mean I cannot sue them in the federal court?
[01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  You can't sue unless you win the appeal,
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:44.000]  which would give you a malicious prosecution.
[01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:45.000]  Okay.
[01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.000]  Well, hopefully I'll win it.
[01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:48.000]  Okay.
[01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:53.000]  Now, you can potentially sue for other things,
[01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:56.000]  but you're not going to be able to sue for the prosecution itself unless you
[01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:58.000]  get your conviction overturned.
[01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.000]  I see.
[01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:01.000]  Okay.
[01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:02.000]  Okay.
[01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:05.000]  But hopefully, I don't mean to be hard on you,
[01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:09.000]  but you've got to understand the distinction between a generalization question,
[01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:12.000]  which doesn't really prove or disprove anything,
[01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:17.000]  versus the specific requirements that they did not meet.
[01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:20.000]  No, this is, your harshness is good.
[01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.000]  This is how I learned.
[01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  And this is what I want to do.
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:28.000]  When again is the Dow Law website coming up?
[01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.000]  We don't have a definitive date yet.
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  Like I say, we want to make sure it is airtight on the security.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:38.000]  We don't want to risk any user data or information to any source.
[01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:39.000]  Right.
[01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:40.000]  I understand that.
[01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:43.000]  Well, I'm going to keep listening.
[01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:46.000]  I will certainly announce it as soon as we're ready to launch it, though.
[01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:47.000]  I'm sorry?
[01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:50.000]  I will certainly announce it as soon as we're ready to launch it.
[01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:52.000]  Well, great.
[01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:53.000]  All right.
[01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:54.000]  Well, thanks for taking my call.
[01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:55.000]  Sure, Tom.
[01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:57.000]  All right.
[01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:58.000]  Goodbye.
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:24:59.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  All right.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:01.000]  Now we're going to go to Russ in Texas.
[01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:02.000]  Russ, what can we do for you?
[01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.000]  Oh, hey, Eddie.
[01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.000]  You know, you commented earlier about the straw man,
[01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:11.000]  and I wanted to agree and disagree on a couple of points.
[01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:12.000]  And while I'm doing that,
[01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:17.000]  it's going to answer the previous caller's question about him in commerce.
[01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  Basically, I've been doing a lot of research on the straw man,
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  and I totally agree with you.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:26.000]  I would never use the term straw man in a court of law
[01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  or you'll get thrown in the loony bin because they do not want to talk about that.
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:35.000]  And I'll disagree with you in the fact that I've proven to myself
[01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  that you are operating in two capacities, and I've researched that.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:41.000]  Well, you're correct.
[01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:45.000]  And what you just said is exactly my argument.
[01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  It is not a straw man that is at issue.
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:51.000]  It is a capacity that is at issue.
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.000]  And I've said that forever.
[01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.000]  It is always a capacity.
[01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:58.000]  I mean, okay, real quick, let me sum up what I mean by that
[01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.000]  just for you and the listeners here.
[01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:04.000]  The statute says something to the effect of a person commits an offense
[01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:12.000]  if the person operated a motor vehicle on a highway, blah, blah, blah.
[01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.000]  So what are the capacities involved here?
[01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:23.000]  The capacity of some person and the capacity of an operator that is operating.
[01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:29.000]  So there you've got a person who must be acting in the capacity of an operator.
[01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:31.000]  That's not a straw man.
[01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.000]  It's a commercial capacity.
[01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:35.000]  Exactly.
[01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  And if you look at your checking account on your checkbook,
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.000]  the signature line is not a line.
[01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:45.000]  It's actually a micro-print that says authorized representative.
[01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:49.000]  And when you go sign up at a bank and you bring your birth certificate
[01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:54.000]  and your license, you're identifying yourself in that capacity.
[01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:59.000]  And your bank account is actually owned by your birth certificate person.
[01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:06.000]  And that is why you have to sign on the bottom line as an authorized representative, as a man.
[01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:11.000]  That is why they can go into your bank account and take out your money for Obamacare
[01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:13.000]  is because it isn't your account.
[01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  It's your other capacity's account.
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:20.000]  And I was struggling to find out what that name is in law, and I found it.
[01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:25.000]  I was listening last week to a caller who was on for two hours on a talk show.
[01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  His name was Ken W.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.000]  And he's a good old boy from Kentucky who reminded me of you.
[01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:33.000]  Very smart, intelligent guy.
[01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.000]  And you say he reminded you of me?
[01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.000]  Yeah, I mean, he is just like you.
[01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:42.000]  He learned it himself, and he's a good old country boy.
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:46.000]  And he got hurt by the law, so he did research because he was mad.
[01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:50.000]  And he found out that he stumbled across a video,
[01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.000]  and I'm going to tell your callers right now, the YouTube video,
[01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:58.000]  it's called Bankruptcy and Revised Article 9.
[01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.000]  And what it is, it's put out by the Federal Judicial Center,
[01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.000]  and it's a bunch of high-priced $500 lawyers and judges,
[01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:11.000]  and they're sitting around laughing at this second capacity.
[01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:13.000]  And it's called, I'm going to give you the name of it,
[01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:16.000]  they call it a Registered Organization.
[01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:19.000]  And they're talking how people aren't aware of it,
[01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  and they talk about bankruptcy and all that.
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:26.000]  But they're explaining that second capacity.
[01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  It's called a Registered Organization.
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:32.000]  In law, everywhere, a person is defined as a corporation,
[01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:37.000]  an organization, a trust, et cetera, et cetera, individual,
[01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.000]  and all those are legal fictions.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:45.000]  So your Registered Organization is created when your mother informs on you,
[01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:49.000]  and the state takes that birth certificate with your footprint,
[01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  and they register that, so it's their property.
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:57.000]  So you cannot change that legal fiction.
[01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:58.000]  So here's what this guy did.
[01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:01.000]  When he found this out, here was his remedy.
[01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  He took his own birth certificate, and he went into a court, got in front of a judge.
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:08.000]  He didn't tell them why he was coming in.
[01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:09.000]  He did it.
[01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:12.000]  He walked in and surprised them.
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:17.000]  So he plopped his birth certificate on there, on the table,
[01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:19.000]  and he says, I want to get a statutory judgment,
[01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  because I want to find out what are the rights and duties that this birth certificate, you know, impairs on me.
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.000]  And he says, I realize I'm a man, and I'm not that.
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.000]  You know, there's two capacities.
[01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:40.000]  So he says, you know, please explain to me what rights and duties the government has assigned to that piece of paper.
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  And he got a statutory judgment, and I'll tell you about it on the other side.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  Okay, well, hang on just a second, and we'll finish that up then.
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:53.000]  Folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, calling number 512-646-1984.
[01:29:53.000 --> 01:30:01.000]  We will be right back, so y'all hang in there.
[01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:09.000]  The government has dreamed up a new way to erode your privacy in the name of fighting terrorism, tracking prepaid debit cards.
[01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:14.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll give you the details of this latest assault on liberty in just a moment.
[01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.000]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:20.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:25.000]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:30.000]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
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[01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:50.000]  Time and again, the government finds ways to make sure Big Brother is watching, always in the name of the war on terror.
[01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:54.000]  The newest idea is legislation to track prepaid debit cards.
[01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:58.000]  For years, people have used these cards anonymously, just like cash.
[01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:00.000]  No fuss and no financial footprints.
[01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:06.000]  For low-income people without a bank account, they provide important access to services like online purchases.
[01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:12.000]  But now, lawmakers want to burden prepaid cards with detailed recordkeeping and surcharges.
[01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:16.000]  The real losers, of course, won't be terrorists who never follow the rules anyway.
[01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:20.000]  As usual, it will be us and our freedoms that pay the price.
[01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:25.000]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:32.000]  I lost my son.
[01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:33.000]  My nephew.
[01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:34.000]  My uncle.
[01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:35.000]  My son.
[01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:36.000]  On September 11, 2001.
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[01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:37.000]  We're going to finish up with Russ. All right, Russ, go ahead.
[01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  Okay, so this guy named Ken, he was getting pulled over and being written tickets,
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  even though he had canceled his license and all of his commercial agreements.
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:54.000]  They were still dragging him in there, and he kept saying, well, I'm not in commerce.
[01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:57.000]  I'm not in commerce, kind of like your last caller.
[01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:01.000]  So basically, when he found out this information, he took his birth certificate in,
[01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  and he pleaded in front of a judge saying, hey, I'm not in commerce,
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  and I don't understand why you keep dragging me in here. I'm not engaged in commerce.
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:14.000]  And I realized I had two capacities, so tell me about that second capacity.
[01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:19.000]  So he had a lot of knowledge, and the judge said, well, the attorneys were really nervous,
[01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:24.000]  and they didn't say anything. They were whispering and kind of in a tizzy.
[01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:27.000]  And the judge seemed level-headed and said, well, you're going home,
[01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:30.000]  and you'll have my decision in two weeks.
[01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:37.000]  So he said in two weeks, he got a declaratory judgment saying that he was a private citizen
[01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.000]  acting in his private capacity.
[01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:45.000]  And so he got that declaratory judgment, and he says he got pulled over once or twice,
[01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:50.000]  and the cop said, I want to see your ID, your license and insurance.
[01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:54.000]  And he says, well, I'm not a driver, and I'm not acting in a commercial capacity,
[01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.000]  and here is a declaratory judgment.
[01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:03.000]  And he handed it to him, and the cop read it, and he put him on his way, and he drove off.
[01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:09.000]  So it's worked every time he's gotten pulled over because he carries that declaratory judgment with him
[01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.000]  saying that he's acting in his private capacity.
[01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:16.000]  So that seems to be a biggie for me.
[01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:22.000]  The issue here to me has always been since when do we need a court to tell us in what capacity we're acting?
[01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  Well, here's your answer.
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.000]  I called you two or three weeks ago, and I said, look, I have an automobile,
[01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  and I've never used it in commerce, but they're telling me it's commerce.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:37.000]  And I said, you know, what if I put it in a corporate name, and what did you tell me?
[01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:41.000]  You said, well, if you put it in a corporate name, it's always in commerce.
[01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:42.000]  It doesn't matter.
[01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:44.000]  It's always in commerce.
[01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  Well, you're registered.
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.000]  Yeah, and that's exactly what I've told people as well.
[01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:52.000]  If it's a corporate registered, it's always commerce.
[01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:56.000]  Well, your second capacity is corporate registered.
[01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  I'm telling you, it's a registered organization.
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.000]  It's always in commerce.
[01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:07.000]  So you've got to rebut that by changing your status or getting a declaratory judgment like this guy did.
[01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:10.000]  I think he was very intelligent in doing that.
[01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.000]  He's sharing it.
[01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.000]  My email you is two-hour interviews.
[01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  You can listen to it yourself.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:21.000]  And, you know, it's an avenue that I'm going to apply as a remedy.
[01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:22.000]  Okay.
[01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:23.000]  Well, send it to me.
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.000]  I'll be more than happy to look at it.
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:29.000]  And then secondly, about Obamacare, I'm never going to sign up for that,
[01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:33.000]  but is there still going to be options for private people?
[01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:38.000]  Well, that's debatable.
[01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:46.000]  The question is, is how can you provide something and call it health care if the states are going to force it to comply with Obamacare,
[01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:49.000]  if that is what it falls under?
[01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:55.000]  Exactly, because what I've learned is Obamacare is a federal benefit,
[01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:01.000]  and you must be a U.S. citizen residing in domiciled in D.C., so it's definitely a federal program.
[01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:04.000]  Well, you have to be domiciled within federal jurisdiction.
[01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.000]  Doesn't necessarily have to be D.C.
[01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:11.000]  Well, consider D.C. if you're in Texas and you sign yourself up for it.
[01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:15.000]  You're still domiciled in D.C. in the federal jurisdiction.
[01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.000]  But the point I'm making is it's similar to everything else.
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:21.000]  When you sign up for it, you don't have rights over your body.
[01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:24.000]  The government, you signed over rights to your body,
[01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.000]  so the government can tell you, you know, you're too old for a hip replacement,
[01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:31.000]  or you're too old for that $100,000 surgery,
[01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  so they're going to tell you, you know, what you can do with their property.
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:39.000]  So stay away from that.
[01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:42.000]  Okay. Well, I appreciate the info, Russ.
[01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  Bye.
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:44.000]  All right. Thanks for calling in.
[01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:45.000]  Bye.
[01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:46.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.000]  All right. Now we're going to go to Doug in Texas.
[01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:50.000]  Doug, what can we do for you?
[01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:51.000]  Eddie.
[01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:52.000]  Yes, sir?
[01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:55.000]  Might be a little off topic.
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  Can anybody go down and file a deed, you know, your name without your knowledge or consent?
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:10.000]  Well, yeah.
[01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:14.000]  I mean, why would someone need your knowledge or consent to file a deed?
[01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  The question is, what is it a deed to,
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  and does it somehow affect a right that belongs to you by doing it?
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:27.000]  Well, a deed on my property.
[01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:33.000]  Well, the pat answer to that, of course, would be no.
[01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:39.000]  But if they're trying to forge a deed or something of that means,
[01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.000]  then they'll do it, but they don't need to notify you they're doing it.
[01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:48.000]  The whole point of it is to steal the property out from under you if they're doing it.
[01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:55.000]  Well, the point is, you know, I've had people come down here and file a deed
[01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  saying that this guy bought this property,
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:09.000]  and then it has the stipulation that they have covenants, easements, this and that,
[01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  that they should agree to or whatever.
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:28.000]  You know, a deed into his name in Bastrop County, whatever.
[01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:32.000]  And my signature is nowhere on that.
[01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  I don't agree with anything of it.
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  So is there any way that could possibly be legal?
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:47.000]  Well, if you let it stand, yeah, they can carry on.
[01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:49.000]  I mean, you've got to challenge it.
[01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:53.000]  So your best bet there is going to be sue them to remove it,
[01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:58.000]  or you're going to have to go down and file a petition with the county clerk stating
[01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:03.000]  that you have reason to believe and do believe that there have been fraudulent records
[01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:07.000]  entered into the county clerk's files and point her to those records
[01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:09.000]  and say these are fraudulent.
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.000]  See, here's the deed right here.
[01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:13.000]  It's mine.
[01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  This deed is complete fraud.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  Now, if they don't do anything on that,
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  then you're going to have to sue to have that deed revoked.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:29.000]  And you get to sue them for court costs and punitive damages and all that as well.
[01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  That, of course, is if you can show that they acted knowingly
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  rather than maybe being conned into thinking they bought land from somebody else
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:44.000]  and they got an actual deed.
[01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:46.000]  Well, I'll have this.
[01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:52.000]  Thank you, Eddie, for telling me that.
[01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:54.000]  That's exactly what I thought.
[01:40:54.000 --> 01:41:01.000]  I just want to get you confirmed by one of the smartest men in the universe.
[01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  Well, in that case, you called the wrong show.
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:06.000]  I don't know.
[01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:11.000]  I'm the smartest man in my own skin, but that's as far as I'm willing to take it.
[01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:14.000]  This is Randy, isn't it?
[01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:17.000]  Not if I can help it.
[01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:21.000]  But if I don't start exercising more, it could be.
[01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  Yeah, okay.
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  All right, Doug, thanks for calling in.
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:29.000]  Yeah, thank you for letting me call in.
[01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:30.000]  All right, not a problem.
[01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.000]  You have a good night.
[01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:33.000]  You too.
[01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:36.000]  All right, now we're going to go to Dallas in Texas.
[01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:40.000]  Well, there's something we all thought we knew.
[01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:41.000]  Dallas?
[01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:42.000]  Good evening, Eddie.
[01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.000]  Evening.
[01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:53.000]  I'm just curious why, just to try to note on the straw man, all caps, gold French flag.
[01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:54.000]  Okay, wait, wait, wait.
[01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:56.000]  What kind of phone are you on?
[01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:59.000]  I'm sorry, I'm on a cell phone.
[01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:00.000]  Okay.
[01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:03.000]  Are you talking into it or are you talking into a headset or the speaker?
[01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:05.000]  No, I'm trying to speak into the speaker.
[01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:06.000]  I've got my earbuds in.
[01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:07.000]  Okay.
[01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:08.000]  All right.
[01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:11.000]  Don't move around a lot because you're kind of distorted.
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:12.000]  I apologize.
[01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:13.000]  Okay.
[01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.000]  Oh, anyway, start your question again.
[01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:23.000]  Yeah, I'm just curious why people waste so much time in attempting to prove a negative.
[01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.000]  Well, you're asking me to speak for the mindset of most people.
[01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:29.000]  I'm not qualified to do that.
[01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:32.000]  I mean, you asked the right questions to that gentleman a while ago,
[01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:35.000]  and I heard a little bit of a conversation while I was waiting on the line.
[01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:41.000]  And why do we need a declaratory judgment to let us know that we have every right
[01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:45.000]  and ability to operate in our private capacity at any time we choose to?
[01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.000]  And any time we choose not to, we have the right and ability to contract
[01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:51.000]  and operate in commerce.
[01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:52.000]  And that's all true.
[01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:56.000]  The problem is, is that the system that you're having to live in
[01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:02.000]  bases its entire existence on presupposing dispositions.
[01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:03.000]  I agree.
[01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:08.000]  And it does that for the sole purpose of granting itself immediate authority
[01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:11.000]  in a case where it otherwise would have none.
[01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:15.000]  Similar to a situation even with property tax.
[01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.000]  Precisely.
[01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:20.000]  The property tax is based upon the presumption that the property is used
[01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:22.000]  for commercial purposes.
[01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:25.000]  And has it been in the state, correct?
[01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  So doesn't the one who makes the accusations have a burden of proof always?
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:35.000]  Yes, they do.
[01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  And that's exactly the point of what I was making earlier about the capacity.
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:39.000]  So hang on just a second, Dallas.
[01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  We're going to take a break and then we'll finish up, okay?
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:43.000]  Okay.
[01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:44.000]  All right, folks.
[01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:46.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:47.000]  I've got one more segment.
[01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:49.000]  Dallas may eat up the whole thing.
[01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:50.000]  He may not.
[01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:51.000]  We'll have to wait and see.
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:52.000]  But y'all hang in there.
[01:43:52.000 --> 01:44:02.000]  We will be right back after the break.
[01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:05.000]  We'll be right back after the break.
[01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:52.000]  We'll be right back after the break.
[01:44:52.000 --> 01:45:17.000]  We'll be right back after the break.
[01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:44.000]  We'll be right back after the break.
[01:45:44.000 --> 01:46:02.000]  We'll be right back after the break.
[01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:23.000]  All right, folks.
[01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:24.000]  We are back.
[01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:26.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:31.000]  And we are talking to – are we talking to Dallas or are we talking to Russ?
[01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:33.000]  No, it's still Dallas, Eddie, but –
[01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:34.000]  Okay.
[01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:35.000]  I got you.
[01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:36.000]  Go ahead, Dallas.
[01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:37.000]  I'm going to have to let you go, brother.
[01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:39.000]  I'm working right now, and I apologize.
[01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:41.000]  But thanks for a little bit of time you gave me.
[01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:42.000]  You can move on.
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:43.000]  Okay.
[01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:44.000]  No problem, Dallas.
[01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:45.000]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:46.000]  All right.
[01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:49.000]  Now we're going to go to Russ in Texas.
[01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:51.000]  Russ, what can we do for you?
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:54.000]  Yeah, I just wanted to answer that previous call to his question.
[01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:57.000]  We talked about two capacities.
[01:46:57.000 --> 01:46:59.000]  Well, your driver license is only one.
[01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:03.000]  Your use of Federal Reserve notes is a big one.
[01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:07.000]  And what I learned there under the Federal Reserve Act, only two people can – only
[01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:10.000]  two persons can use Federal Reserve notes.
[01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:15.000]  So if you're using them, you're either a Federal Reserve bank or a Federal Reserve
[01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:16.000]  agent.
[01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:21.000]  So as you're going to the store, like your previous caller said, getting a Coke and chips,
[01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:26.000]  and you're using Federal Reserve notes, you're transporting Federal Reserve notes property
[01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:30.000]  in your capacity as Federal Reserve agent.
[01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.000]  So you're in commerce there.
[01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:38.000]  So you've got to really rebut your birth certificate and get that out of commerce and
[01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  get rid of your driver's license and insurance.
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  And then it will be hard for them to nail you just on using Federal Reserve notes.
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:52.000]  Your remedy there is to say, it's private script, and it's the only private script
[01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:53.000]  available to me.
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:55.000]  And that rebuts it pretty well.
[01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:56.000]  Yeah.
[01:47:56.000 --> 01:48:02.000]  But if you have four presumptions, your driver's license, social number, your Social Security
[01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:05.000]  is a Federal Personnel, and you always have that on you.
[01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:10.000]  So you're operating as a Federal Personnel and a Federal Reserve agent as well.
[01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:15.000]  Well, like I said, if you've got his presentation and or any of the documents he filed in the
[01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:19.000]  case to get his declaratory judgment, I would love to read them and go through them and
[01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:20.000]  see what's what.
[01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:21.000]  Okay.
[01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:22.000]  Thanks, Eddie.
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:23.000]  All right.
[01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  Thanks for calling back in.
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:25.000]  All right.
[01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.000]  Now we're going to go to Brian in Illinois.
[01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:28.000]  Brian?
[01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:29.000]  Yes.
[01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:30.000]  Good afternoon.
[01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  Excuse me.
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:32.000]  Good evening, Eddie.
[01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:33.000]  Good evening.
[01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:34.000]  What can we do for you?
[01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:35.000]  Yeah, I want to follow up.
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.000]  I used your technique on the red light camera.
[01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.000]  I used your letter.
[01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:48.000]  And I got a certified letter in the mail that got a summons to appear for a hearing.
[01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:49.000]  Right.
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.000]  Did they tell you what kind of hearing is going to be?
[01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:59.000]  Yeah, the city is a home rule city under the Illinois Municipal Code.
[01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:04.000]  They have the power to adjudicate.
[01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:08.000]  So they're summoning you to a municipal court.
[01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:09.000]  Correct.
[01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:10.000]  Okay.
[01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:14.000]  Now in Illinois, are red light camera tickets civil or criminal?
[01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:15.000]  Okay.
[01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.000]  Well, this was my question to you.
[01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:21.000]  This is I believe they are not civil.
[01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:22.000]  They are criminal.
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:23.000]  Okay.
[01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:24.000]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:25.000]  I'm not asking what you believe.
[01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:29.000]  I'm asking you what the specifics of the statute say they are.
[01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.000]  They are in the Illinois Code.
[01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  They are criminal.
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:35.000]  Okay.
[01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:38.000]  If they're criminal in the code, then what's your question?
[01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:39.000]  Okay.
[01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:48.000]  My question is there is a Illinois statute that says that the city can adjudicate a violation
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:58.000]  of the municipal ordinance, but one of the things that they cannot adjudicate on is any
[01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:08.000]  involvement with the offense of any violation of the Illinois Vehicle Code or any similar
[01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  crimes occurring in the movement of vehicles.
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:11.000]  Okay.
[01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:13.000]  Are the red light cameras in the Vehicle Code?
[01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:15.000]  No, they are not.
[01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:16.000]  What are they in?
[01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:19.000]  I'm not sure, Eddie.
[01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:22.000]  Well, if you're not sure, then how do you know they're criminal?
[01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  Well, I don't see them in the Vehicle Code.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:27.000]  Okay.
[01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:28.000]  Wait a minute.
[01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:31.000]  Now somewhere here we got to disconnect the communications.
[01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:32.000]  Okay.
[01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:36.000]  I asked you does the Code say they're criminal.
[01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:38.760]  You said the code says they are criminal.
[01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:40.260]  Am I correct so far?
[01:50:43.240 --> 01:50:44.220]  Yes, you are.
[01:50:44.220 --> 01:50:45.060]  Okay.
[01:50:45.060 --> 01:50:47.660]  How do you know the code says they're criminal
[01:50:47.660 --> 01:50:50.020]  and not know what code they're in?
[01:50:51.040 --> 01:50:52.040]  Oh, you're correct.
[01:50:52.040 --> 01:50:52.880]  You're correct.
[01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:55.440]  Okay.
[01:50:55.440 --> 01:50:58.820]  So you don't know for a fact the code says they're criminal.
[01:50:58.820 --> 01:51:00.000]  You're presuming.
[01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:02.680]  No, no, they are, they are criminal.
[01:51:02.680 --> 01:51:04.800]  Then what code are they in?
[01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:06.600]  I don't know the code off the top of my head.
[01:51:06.600 --> 01:51:10.280]  They are in the Illinois Statue of Motor Vehicle Code.
[01:51:10.280 --> 01:51:13.080]  But you just said they aren't in the Motor Vehicle Code.
[01:51:13.080 --> 01:51:17.520]  No, no, no, I said that the city is not allowed.
[01:51:17.520 --> 01:51:18.760]  No, no, I got that part.
[01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:20.920]  You said the city's not allowed to adjudicate
[01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:23.240]  in any offense under the Motor Vehicle Code.
[01:51:23.240 --> 01:51:24.080]  Correct.
[01:51:24.080 --> 01:51:25.840]  And then you said, I asked you,
[01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:28.760]  are these in the Motor Vehicle Code, the red light cameras?
[01:51:28.760 --> 01:51:30.760]  And you said no.
[01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:32.440]  Oh, then I misspoke.
[01:51:32.440 --> 01:51:33.780]  Yes, they are in the code.
[01:51:33.780 --> 01:51:37.260]  Okay, then you argue lack of jurisdiction.
[01:51:37.260 --> 01:51:39.400]  You can't summon me to anything
[01:51:39.400 --> 01:51:42.200]  because you lack jurisdiction to hear the case.
[01:51:42.200 --> 01:51:43.020]  Right, correct.
[01:51:43.020 --> 01:51:44.880]  That's exactly what I presume
[01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:46.760]  based on what you guys have been teaching me.
[01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:49.960]  Yes, that's the issue, lack of jurisdiction.
[01:51:49.960 --> 01:51:50.960]  Yeah, yes, correct, correct.
[01:51:50.960 --> 01:51:52.840]  I just wanted to double check with you
[01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:54.680]  and run that past you, but I misspoken.
[01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:55.560]  I apologize for that.
[01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:56.400]  No, that's okay.
[01:51:56.400 --> 01:51:58.200]  I just want to make sure I got my facts straight
[01:51:58.200 --> 01:51:59.780]  before I say do this.
[01:51:59.780 --> 01:52:02.160]  Oh, yeah, no, thank you very much for clarifying that.
[01:52:02.160 --> 01:52:03.160]  I appreciate that.
[01:52:03.160 --> 01:52:05.400]  I'm just a little bit nervous talking on the radio.
[01:52:05.400 --> 01:52:06.240]  That's okay.
[01:52:06.240 --> 01:52:07.080]  Yeah.
[01:52:07.080 --> 01:52:08.080]  You're not talking on the radio, I am.
[01:52:08.080 --> 01:52:09.200]  You're talking to me.
[01:52:09.200 --> 01:52:10.520]  Now, it's true, yeah.
[01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:12.840]  Now, I have another question also.
[01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.720]  What's interesting about this whole deal is that
[01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:21.080]  in the state of Illinois,
[01:52:21.080 --> 01:52:25.080]  they have five days to respond to your FOIA request.
[01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:30.840]  I put a FOIA request in on December 5th
[01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:35.840]  and did not receive the FOIA information until January 7th.
[01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:39.800]  And is there any exceptions to the rules
[01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:42.840]  as to how they can delay the time,
[01:52:42.840 --> 01:52:46.480]  expand the time or anything else, and did they comply?
[01:52:46.480 --> 01:52:48.560]  Yes, they can expand the time,
[01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.440]  but they must inform me within that first five days,
[01:52:51.440 --> 01:52:52.680]  which they did not.
[01:52:52.680 --> 01:52:56.740]  Okay, then what is your remedy under that act
[01:52:56.740 --> 01:52:59.040]  when they do not comply?
[01:52:59.040 --> 01:53:03.320]  I can contact the mayor of the city
[01:53:03.320 --> 01:53:07.440]  and force him to comply, and he has seven days.
[01:53:07.440 --> 01:53:08.320]  Well, no, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:53:08.320 --> 01:53:12.520]  You have no direct power to force him to comply.
[01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:16.120]  What in the code authorizes you to do what
[01:53:16.120 --> 01:53:17.620]  to force him to comply?
[01:53:17.620 --> 01:53:21.280]  Well, it says I'm authorized to file a complaint with him,
[01:53:21.280 --> 01:53:23.600]  and he has seven days to...
[01:53:23.600 --> 01:53:25.880]  And then if he fails in his duty,
[01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.520]  what is your next remedy?
[01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:31.200]  Then it says that all my remedies have been failed
[01:53:31.200 --> 01:53:34.360]  and then I can file for a declaratory judgment.
[01:53:34.360 --> 01:53:35.320]  Okay.
[01:53:35.320 --> 01:53:36.160]  Yeah.
[01:53:36.160 --> 01:53:38.080]  So which point did you choose?
[01:53:38.080 --> 01:53:39.320]  Well, I'm not at that point.
[01:53:39.320 --> 01:53:41.800]  I'm going to make a complaint to the mayor.
[01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:42.960]  Okay.
[01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:44.760]  Would you recommend I do that?
[01:53:44.760 --> 01:53:46.840]  Absolutely, you can't go any further
[01:53:46.840 --> 01:53:49.320]  unless you exhaust your administrative remedies.
[01:53:49.320 --> 01:53:53.080]  Right, now they have already responded to me,
[01:53:53.080 --> 01:53:54.480]  but they have responded to me late
[01:53:54.480 --> 01:53:58.080]  and they haven't responded to everything that we requested.
[01:53:58.080 --> 01:54:00.320]  And they haven't responded to you.
[01:54:00.320 --> 01:54:02.080]  Okay, I understand.
[01:54:02.080 --> 01:54:03.360]  Right, period.
[01:54:03.360 --> 01:54:05.880]  Correct, their partial response
[01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:07.800]  will be construed as a non-response.
[01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:09.640]  A non-response, right, right.
[01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:11.440]  Okay, wonderful.
[01:54:11.440 --> 01:54:12.640]  Okay.
[01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:17.520]  And then also they have 40 days to give me a hearing
[01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:22.060]  from the time that the incident was reported.
[01:54:23.200 --> 01:54:26.520]  So if the incident is the date the incident is reported...
[01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:28.440]  What incident are we referring to?
[01:54:28.440 --> 01:54:31.840]  Your ticket or their failure to comply with the FOIA?
[01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:33.760]  See, that's where I don't understand.
[01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:35.280]  I think this is so vague.
[01:54:37.040 --> 01:54:38.880]  Is there any chance I could possibly email?
[01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:41.840]  Where are you getting the information on the 40 days from?
[01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:46.000]  Lisa Madigan, general attorney,
[01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:47.840]  FOIA handbook for public officials.
[01:54:47.840 --> 01:54:49.920]  Okay, that's the FOIA request
[01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:51.240]  for the information from the city.
[01:54:51.240 --> 01:54:52.400]  It's not your ticket.
[01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:55.720]  Okay, then the other one is the Illinois...
[01:54:55.720 --> 01:54:56.720]  I'm sorry, you're correct.
[01:54:56.720 --> 01:55:01.720]  It's from the Illinois statute.
[01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:03.760]  The motor vehicle statute.
[01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:06.720]  Well, no, just Illinois statute
[01:55:06.720 --> 01:55:11.200]  on the municipalities giving me a hearing.
[01:55:12.200 --> 01:55:15.160]  Okay, so the Illinois legislature
[01:55:15.160 --> 01:55:18.000]  writes legislation for local municipalities?
[01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:22.920]  Yeah, it's Illinois ILCS-5, Illinois Municipal Code.
[01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:24.360]  Okay.
[01:55:24.360 --> 01:55:26.200]  And I guess in that code,
[01:55:26.200 --> 01:55:29.480]  I believe it says that they have 40 days
[01:55:29.480 --> 01:55:31.320]  from the time that the offense is reported,
[01:55:31.320 --> 01:55:34.280]  they have 40 days to give me a hearing.
[01:55:34.280 --> 01:55:36.480]  But I assume that the...
[01:55:36.480 --> 01:55:38.720]  Is the burden on you to request the hearing?
[01:55:40.120 --> 01:55:41.560]  I assume that it is.
[01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:44.600]  And failure for me to respond to the hearing results in,
[01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:47.720]  like default.
[01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:48.560]  Right.
[01:55:49.560 --> 01:55:51.760]  Okay, well, given that,
[01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:54.680]  I would most assuredly go after them
[01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:56.360]  on the lack of jurisdiction.
[01:55:56.360 --> 01:55:58.040]  Okay, just go on the lack of jurisdiction
[01:55:58.040 --> 01:56:02.800]  and it's involving the Illinois Vehicle Code.
[01:56:02.800 --> 01:56:05.560]  Correct, make sure you cite the specific law
[01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:07.560]  or statute you mentioned that says
[01:56:07.560 --> 01:56:10.000]  they don't have jurisdiction to hear such a case.
[01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:10.840]  Okay.
[01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:11.680]  Okay.
[01:56:11.680 --> 01:56:12.520]  All right, very good, Eddie.
[01:56:12.520 --> 01:56:13.640]  All right, Brian, thanks for calling in.
[01:56:13.640 --> 01:56:14.480]  All right, thank you.
[01:56:14.480 --> 01:56:15.320]  I'll let you know on the outcome.
[01:56:15.320 --> 01:56:16.160]  Okay.
[01:56:16.160 --> 01:56:17.280]  One other question, quick.
[01:56:17.280 --> 01:56:18.400]  Yeah.
[01:56:18.400 --> 01:56:20.760]  I believe I have the right to request
[01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:24.400]  a filming of the hearing under the...
[01:56:24.400 --> 01:56:26.640]  You have, it depends on whether or not
[01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:28.960]  this is supposedly a court of record.
[01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:29.800]  Right.
[01:56:29.800 --> 01:56:30.800]  If it's a court of record,
[01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:32.240]  then you have the right to demand
[01:56:32.240 --> 01:56:34.080]  that all the proceedings be on the record
[01:56:34.080 --> 01:56:36.800]  so that it's there for the purpose of appeal.
[01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:38.880]  Okay, how do I determine if they're a court of record
[01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:40.560]  without taking their word on it?
[01:56:41.800 --> 01:56:46.680]  Well, again, the rules that allow them to set up
[01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:49.240]  their supposed court would tell you whether or not,
[01:56:49.240 --> 01:56:51.120]  how they'd make it a court of record.
[01:56:51.120 --> 01:56:53.160]  Just do a search for court of record,
[01:56:54.240 --> 01:56:57.040]  you know, in the code and see what you find.
[01:56:57.040 --> 01:56:58.400]  Okay, very good, Eddie, thank you.
[01:56:58.400 --> 01:56:59.240]  You're welcome.
[01:56:59.240 --> 01:57:00.060]  All right, bye.
[01:57:00.060 --> 01:57:00.900]  Bye-bye.
[01:57:00.900 --> 01:57:02.960]  All right, I got Rob in Illinois
[01:57:02.960 --> 01:57:04.280]  in just a little over a minute.
[01:57:04.280 --> 01:57:05.680]  Rob, what you got?
[01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:06.640]  Thank you, Eddie.
[01:57:06.640 --> 01:57:08.160]  So glad you got me through.
[01:57:08.160 --> 01:57:10.600]  Real quick for that guy, Brian,
[01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:13.120]  go to, if I can put out a website,
[01:57:13.120 --> 01:57:16.960]  and this guy will help you right here, redlightdoctor.com.
[01:57:16.960 --> 01:57:19.680]  Again, that's redlightdoctor.com for $50.
[01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:20.520]  He'll help you.
[01:57:20.520 --> 01:57:22.760]  I saw him do it for a friend of mine,
[01:57:22.760 --> 01:57:24.880]  and he'll challenge them on the statutes,
[01:57:24.880 --> 01:57:26.080]  and my friend won.
[01:57:26.080 --> 01:57:27.360]  He beat a red light camera ticket
[01:57:27.360 --> 01:57:28.900]  here in the Chicagoland area.
[01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:32.280]  I wanted to get that out to this guy,
[01:57:32.280 --> 01:57:35.520]  and I'm looking to see if I just have another note here.
[01:57:35.520 --> 01:57:38.040]  And that's one of the main reasons why I was calling.
[01:57:38.040 --> 01:57:40.080]  If the people, like Brian,
[01:57:40.080 --> 01:57:43.520]  he seems like he's got to get into more of the statutes
[01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:45.480]  and the codes to understand this stuff.
[01:57:45.480 --> 01:57:48.080]  So right now, just use that red light doctor
[01:57:48.080 --> 01:57:50.520]  and then do your other research later.
[01:57:50.520 --> 01:57:51.840]  Yep, that'd be good advice.
[01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:53.400]  All right, well, hopefully he can help him out.
[01:57:53.400 --> 01:57:55.240]  Rob, thanks for calling in and letting him know.
[01:57:55.240 --> 01:57:56.320]  Sure.
[01:57:56.320 --> 01:57:57.240]  All right, folks.
[01:57:57.240 --> 01:57:59.800]  This has been the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Show
[01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:01.960]  with your host, Eddie Craig.
[01:58:01.960 --> 01:58:03.640]  I wanna thank you all for listening.
[01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:06.180]  I wanna thank you for all the support.
[01:58:06.180 --> 01:58:09.440]  Also, be aware that if you buy a traffic seminar
[01:58:09.440 --> 01:58:11.120]  before the end of January,
[01:58:11.120 --> 01:58:12.720]  you will be entered in the drawing
[01:58:12.720 --> 01:58:17.120]  for the guns that we have,
[01:58:17.120 --> 01:58:19.480]  and you will be entered 10 times,
[01:58:19.480 --> 01:58:22.960]  once for every $25 on the purchase.
[01:58:22.960 --> 01:58:25.000]  So be sure that if you get a seminar
[01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:26.840]  that you make sure you want that done,
[01:58:26.840 --> 01:58:29.080]  that you want to be entered into the drawing.
[01:58:29.080 --> 01:58:31.840]  All right, once again, thank you all for listening.
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