[00:00.000 --> 00:05.560]  You're listening to the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist
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[00:09.760 --> 00:15.640]  This is Justin Armand with your Liberty Beat for Thursday, December 12, 2013.
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[00:51.280 --> 00:55.920]  And now the news, yes, he might not be Time Magazine's Person of the Year, but Edward
[00:55.920 --> 00:59.960]  Snowden's whistleblowing efforts is the gift that keeps on giving.
[00:59.960 --> 01:04.440]  In the latest round of revelations stemming from the former NSA contractor's massive
[01:04.440 --> 01:09.760]  leak of documents, virtual cookies are revealed as prime tool for governments buying.
[01:09.760 --> 01:14.680]  The Washington Post reports that the NSA and its British counterparts used the small tracking
[01:14.680 --> 01:17.320]  files to identify web surfers.
[01:17.320 --> 01:23.240]  Files placed on computers by advertising networks don't reveal exact personal info, but do contain
[01:23.240 --> 01:26.760]  numeric codes that uniquely identify a personal browser.
[01:26.760 --> 01:31.760]  Snowden was a close second to the Pope for Time Magazine's Distinguished Person of the
[01:31.760 --> 01:35.040]  Year.
[01:35.040 --> 01:41.960]  The Oakland, California City Council has agreed to pay the sum of $693,000 to settle two lawsuits
[01:41.960 --> 01:44.880]  filed by Occupy Oakland protesters.
[01:44.880 --> 01:49.400]  The San Francisco Chronicle reports that the protesters claim they were victims of police
[01:49.400 --> 01:50.400]  brutality.
[01:50.400 --> 01:53.560]  Next is The Liberty Beats' Brian Hagan with this story.
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[03:26.800 --> 03:54.520]  All right, bad boys, bad boys, this is the rule of law.
[03:54.520 --> 04:02.000]  Tonight is Thursday, December 12th, 2013.
[04:02.000 --> 04:04.680]  Hard to believe we're coming into the end of the year.
[04:04.680 --> 04:11.640]  Tonight, we have a special guest for you at the beginning of the show to talk about some
[04:11.640 --> 04:15.600]  items that he is going to be donating to our fundraiser.
[04:15.600 --> 04:22.240]  As many of you know by now and may have heard the PSA, Logos Radio Network is conducting,
[04:22.240 --> 04:27.440]  we are conducting our annual fundraiser to raise money for operating expenses and equipment
[04:27.440 --> 04:28.440]  upgrades.
[04:28.440 --> 04:35.400]  As I've said before on the show and on the fundraiser, it costs us a fraction of the amount
[04:35.400 --> 04:41.920]  of what it takes most media outlets, even most alternative media outlets that run on
[04:41.920 --> 04:43.200]  a shoestring budget.
[04:43.200 --> 04:49.560]  I would call the budget that we run on is not even a shoestring, it's more like a thread.
[04:49.560 --> 04:56.840]  And we are able to successfully run this media operation on just this minuscule budget that
[04:56.840 --> 05:00.200]  we are able to run the media operation on.
[05:00.200 --> 05:03.440]  However, what is necessary is necessary.
[05:03.440 --> 05:05.880]  And so we are having our annual fundraiser.
[05:05.880 --> 05:12.040]  We need to raise $7,000 by the end of January to pay back some loans that we've had to take
[05:12.040 --> 05:18.840]  out for the ongoing operating expenses, you know, electricity, internet, all these things,
[05:18.840 --> 05:24.240]  equipment, maintenance, you know, replacing computer parts and this and that all along
[05:24.240 --> 05:25.560]  the way.
[05:25.560 --> 05:27.880]  And we need to make some major upgrades as well.
[05:27.880 --> 05:31.080]  And so folks, we need to get some of these loans paid back because we can't just keep
[05:31.080 --> 05:36.520]  rolling the debt over from year to year to year because eventually it will get to the
[05:36.520 --> 05:39.560]  point where, you know, we just can't afford to do this anymore.
[05:39.560 --> 05:44.000]  And so we really would appreciate it folks if you could help us out, contribute to our
[05:44.000 --> 05:45.000]  fundraiser.
[05:45.000 --> 05:52.160]  We have several items on the website already, some colloidal silver for a $25 donation.
[05:52.160 --> 05:56.840]  You can get two spray bottles, one of ionic for topical use.
[05:56.840 --> 06:03.080]  A lot of people like to use it for topical and then the colloidal spray bottle for sinuses.
[06:03.080 --> 06:09.200]  And then for $75 donation, you get a 32-ounce bottle of either or, colloidal or ionic, and
[06:09.200 --> 06:12.000]  a corresponding 1-ounce spray bottle.
[06:12.000 --> 06:18.680]  And then for $100 donation, you get a $15 gift certificate to Brave New Books and also
[06:18.680 --> 06:23.240]  a Texas Liberty Radio t-shirt and toe bag.
[06:23.240 --> 06:30.520]  And so for those of you who are in Austin, based in Austin, who may listen to our affiliates,
[06:30.520 --> 06:35.160]  Texas Liberty Radio here on 90.1, they are our local Austin affiliate.
[06:35.160 --> 06:40.240]  We have several affiliates, AM and FM affiliates around the country for Logos Radio Network.
[06:40.240 --> 06:41.640]  This is a network.
[06:41.640 --> 06:45.120]  This is not Texas Liberty Radio, but Texas Liberty Radio is an affiliate.
[06:45.120 --> 06:47.560]  So anyways, you could get some t-shirt and toe bags.
[06:47.560 --> 06:55.280]  And we also have now, I'm very happy to announce one of our long-time listeners, Mr. Martin
[06:55.280 --> 06:58.080]  Frye here in Austin.
[06:58.080 --> 07:02.040]  His website is libertyscrolls.com.
[07:02.040 --> 07:04.180]  Martin is a master mason.
[07:04.180 --> 07:06.520]  He built the Shady Grove Restaurant.
[07:06.520 --> 07:09.000]  Many of y'all here in Austin know about that place.
[07:09.000 --> 07:10.000]  I've never been.
[07:10.000 --> 07:11.000]  I've always wanted to.
[07:11.000 --> 07:12.000]  I know.
[07:12.000 --> 07:15.600]  It's a beautiful, just a beautiful location, beautiful building.
[07:15.600 --> 07:19.000]  Martin is an artisan and also an author.
[07:19.000 --> 07:25.520]  And he's got some very beautiful and interesting items on his libertyscrolls.com website.
[07:25.520 --> 07:30.720]  And he will be donating some of these items to the Logos Radio Network fundraiser.
[07:30.720 --> 07:33.600]  And I have to say, Martin, I want some of these.
[07:33.600 --> 07:35.520]  This is incredible work.
[07:35.520 --> 07:38.040]  Martin, thank you and welcome to the show.
[07:38.040 --> 07:40.120]  Well, thanks a lot, Deborah.
[07:40.120 --> 07:42.640]  And I really appreciate you and what you do.
[07:42.640 --> 07:52.400]  You know, it's an honor to be here and be able to, I guess, launch these new patriotic
[07:52.400 --> 07:58.720]  awards, gifts, and commemoratives that capture the American spirit of liberty.
[07:58.720 --> 07:59.720]  Yes.
[07:59.720 --> 08:02.920]  Now, Martin, if you would please, I gave you a brief introduction.
[08:02.920 --> 08:07.720]  But if you could just please tell us a little bit more about yourself and libertyscrolls.com
[08:07.720 --> 08:13.000]  and what inspired you to get involved in this, making these beautiful items, tell us a little
[08:13.000 --> 08:14.000]  bit about that.
[08:14.000 --> 08:15.960]  And then we'll get into what the giveaways are.
[08:15.960 --> 08:20.880]  Well, okay, I'll try to be brief.
[08:20.880 --> 08:33.120]  The concept is based on biblical scripture for the words of the law to be kept at our
[08:33.120 --> 08:34.120]  frontlets.
[08:34.120 --> 08:41.560]  That means in front of our eyes, and so to speak, and, you know, in our hearts, written
[08:41.560 --> 08:46.920]  upon our hearts, in our hands, even tied around our hands, the phylacteries of the Hebrew
[08:46.920 --> 08:47.920]  scripture.
[08:47.920 --> 09:00.880]  And so that scroll design came from that, from the way that people could personalize
[09:00.880 --> 09:01.880]  their words.
[09:01.880 --> 09:07.760]  You know, I made scrolls of prayer scrolls, scripture scrolls.
[09:07.760 --> 09:12.800]  I would do the Hippocratic Oath for doctors that they would want to wear it.
[09:12.800 --> 09:15.400]  And I would go to that doctor, wouldn't you?
[09:15.400 --> 09:19.600]  So you know, I mean, those are people who are serious about what they believe in.
[09:19.600 --> 09:26.360]  And so I've created Liberty Scrolls since last November, I think, this or whenever the
[09:26.360 --> 09:28.720]  last election.
[09:28.720 --> 09:39.080]  It's kind of just, I was like, inspired to create these little vessels and containers
[09:39.080 --> 09:49.800]  of the words of the foundational founders, our founders, you know, their words scrolled
[09:49.800 --> 09:59.840]  inside and their representational freestanding monuments, many monuments to commemorate the
[09:59.840 --> 10:06.760]  words of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the U.S. Constitution, the
[10:06.760 --> 10:08.080]  Bill of Rights.
[10:08.080 --> 10:11.160]  Right now those are the three that I offer.
[10:11.160 --> 10:18.240]  And so I decided to, you know, make a way to remind people of these words, tangible
[10:18.240 --> 10:26.120]  reminders to people who can carry it with them and actually many ways I'd like to
[10:26.120 --> 10:30.120]  offer them so everybody has a different way to express themselves.
[10:30.120 --> 10:38.440]  And so I want to be able to offer a wide variety of custom scrolled products to help educate,
[10:38.440 --> 10:45.320]  inspire, enlighten, and empower people in these times when we need these words and those
[10:45.320 --> 10:51.040]  foundations near us, you know, and so it will help us.
[10:51.040 --> 10:56.920]  The idea is just, you know, really to inspire others and award those who are, you know,
[10:56.920 --> 11:03.920]  worthy of, you know, have done great service for our country and don't get much, you
[11:03.920 --> 11:06.080]  know, thanks or gratitude.
[11:06.080 --> 11:14.800]  So this is a way also we can give gratitude to those who have done their, you know, whatever
[11:14.800 --> 11:19.920]  service to our communities and country and y'all are certainly deserving.
[11:19.920 --> 11:26.400]  I've thought off about giving you guys, just giving you guys one as an award for your service,
[11:26.400 --> 11:27.400]  Deborah.
[11:27.400 --> 11:32.240]  So, you know, it's kind of like that kind of vision I'm carrying through to the end.
[11:32.240 --> 11:39.000]  I don't want it to be Chinafied, it's not in the hands of the national quartermasters
[11:39.000 --> 11:41.720]  who would Chinafied and commercialize it.
[11:41.720 --> 11:44.920]  And so I wanted to go to the right people.
[11:44.920 --> 11:51.920]  And so even Heather Fazio has indicated this would be awesome for her temple convention
[11:51.920 --> 11:53.960]  for the libertarian party.
[11:53.960 --> 12:00.840]  And so I was tentatively kind of queued in on that, but, you know, that's where I want
[12:00.840 --> 12:09.080]  to take it to the people who deserve the honors of the words and, you know, honoring those
[12:09.080 --> 12:10.080]  words is too.
[12:10.080 --> 12:15.960]  It's basically a way to, you know, you can actually read these and see, you know, it
[12:15.960 --> 12:16.960]  takes effort.
[12:16.960 --> 12:22.840]  It's going to take great effort to get these words back into our country's kind of, you
[12:22.840 --> 12:23.840]  know, hearts.
[12:23.840 --> 12:32.160]  And so this is a way I can kind of do it where it can reach some hearts with a little inspirational
[12:32.160 --> 12:40.640]  kind of touch with the, you know, I guess the important words that are written within.
[12:40.640 --> 12:41.640]  And that's what it's about.
[12:41.640 --> 12:42.640]  It's about what's inside.
[12:42.640 --> 12:47.280]  You see where the shell outside, it's just a container in a vessel and a great expression
[12:47.280 --> 12:49.880]  of our upright stance.
[12:49.880 --> 12:51.360]  That's how I created these.
[12:51.360 --> 12:55.220]  Not as anything but peaceful.
[12:55.220 --> 13:02.040]  And so it's just a reminder of our upright stance and, by golly, these are just the greatest
[13:02.040 --> 13:03.040]  vessels.
[13:03.040 --> 13:06.320]  I kind of discovered that would contain the words.
[13:06.320 --> 13:12.760]  And I've already created these constitutional scrolls, but they were like...
[13:12.760 --> 13:17.240]  I offered just the plain scrolls and they didn't have any covering.
[13:17.240 --> 13:20.640]  So this was just the most appropriate cover.
[13:20.640 --> 13:28.640]  And I have spent a year developing it and produce, I guess, you know, developing the
[13:28.640 --> 13:33.600]  products and product lines, which a lot of them aren't even shown.
[13:33.600 --> 13:41.120]  But these are the ones I have now and I have some for your donor listeners that are like
[13:41.120 --> 13:48.800]  first edition actually working prototype copies that are, you know, they're going to be collector's
[13:48.800 --> 13:49.800]  items.
[13:49.800 --> 13:54.160]  So once this gets picked off the ground with the support of American people, with the work
[13:54.160 --> 14:02.120]  of the words in a way that, you know, is all American, this is all made in America.
[14:02.120 --> 14:06.080]  There is no China in this product.
[14:06.080 --> 14:14.160]  So the actual flag is made at Liberty Stickers who makes Infowars stickers.
[14:14.160 --> 14:21.000]  They make my flag, custom flags, these are vinyl flags that I keep for them to, you know,
[14:21.000 --> 14:28.960]  give it the wave, the beautiful wave and maintain that character to, you know, set off the scrolls.
[14:28.960 --> 14:32.360]  So the flag is a big part of it obviously.
[14:32.360 --> 14:40.920]  And but this flag is not China-fied, it's not cheap cloth or even anything like that.
[14:40.920 --> 14:49.600]  So, you know, my design and I want to do where I can print the actual recipient's name, the
[14:49.600 --> 14:57.560]  honoree's name on it to give them, you know, something to, you know, to think about why,
[14:57.560 --> 15:03.560]  you know, because they're in the service for our country, not just to, you know, get paid
[15:03.560 --> 15:04.560]  or doing a job.
[15:04.560 --> 15:09.680]  They're doing a lot of times for it, so their heart's in it, their passion's there and
[15:09.680 --> 15:12.760]  they know what they, you know, what they stand for.
[15:12.760 --> 15:16.040]  And this is very representative of that.
[15:16.040 --> 15:23.360]  Not only that, I have T-stained edged vellum on the scrolls, it's a springy scroll, quality
[15:23.360 --> 15:24.360]  durable vellum.
[15:24.360 --> 15:30.840]  It's meant to be, you know, open and closed and it closes by itself, its own tension keeps
[15:30.840 --> 15:35.720]  it within the container, so there's no screw or anything.
[15:35.720 --> 15:41.400]  But another thing is it takes a right turn to get these out of there, so a right turn
[15:41.400 --> 15:50.080]  only will get, remove this from the vessel, the casing, it's a 30-06 brass shell casing
[15:50.080 --> 16:00.120]  with a copper brass scroll rod that's been fused together and then I fused that to a
[16:00.120 --> 16:08.480]  actual brass fishing sinker for the bullet head and so it, you know, it's actually a
[16:08.480 --> 16:16.400]  modified decommissioned shell that has been recommissioned for a new commission to actually
[16:16.400 --> 16:18.120]  inspire women.
[16:18.120 --> 16:24.840]  So that's my intent that we encourage people to remember these words of our forefathers.
[16:24.840 --> 16:27.160]  Well, it's just beautiful work.
[16:27.160 --> 16:33.520]  I was going to ask you, Martin, some of the items that have stone, did you carve those
[16:33.520 --> 16:34.520]  yourself?
[16:34.520 --> 16:42.280]  Absolutely, this is all recycled granite, countertop marble, countertop material that
[16:42.280 --> 16:46.080]  I have repurposed for this purpose.
[16:46.080 --> 16:47.400]  It's absolutely beautiful work.
[16:47.400 --> 16:51.800]  Folks, you can go to LibertyScrolls.com to take a look at some of the items we are going
[16:51.800 --> 16:52.800]  to break now.
[16:52.800 --> 16:54.280]  We'll be right back on the other side.
[16:54.280 --> 17:00.920]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
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[19:46.420 --> 19:48.420]  Now the war won't end, take it easy
[19:48.420 --> 19:50.420]  Them attack we do politically
[19:50.420 --> 19:53.420]  And them getting mad and angry
[19:53.420 --> 19:55.420]  Got them upstanding up and fight
[19:55.420 --> 19:58.420]  And fight for the freedom and the freedom
[19:58.420 --> 20:00.420]  And they like them love slavery
[20:00.420 --> 20:02.420]  And get handouts from the government
[20:02.420 --> 20:07.420]  So again, we ask the question
[20:07.420 --> 20:09.420]  What do we want to hide?
[20:09.420 --> 20:12.420]  We don't have a answer
[20:12.420 --> 20:14.420]  We don't have a body
[20:14.420 --> 20:17.420]  We ask the question
[20:17.420 --> 20:19.420]  What do we want to hide?
[20:19.420 --> 20:46.420]  And they don't have an answer
[20:49.420 --> 20:51.420]  We're going to end with a little bit more information
[20:51.420 --> 20:54.420]  So Randy's on the phone right now
[20:54.420 --> 20:56.420]  We couldn't get him on Skype
[20:56.420 --> 20:58.420]  In the meantime, he may drop off
[20:58.420 --> 21:00.420]  But if he drops off, he'll call right back
[21:00.420 --> 21:03.420]  So we've got Martin Fry from LibertyScrulls.com
[21:03.420 --> 21:05.420]  He's telling a story
[21:05.420 --> 21:08.420]  And beautiful work, handmade items
[21:08.420 --> 21:10.420]  And folks, you can go to that website
[21:10.420 --> 21:12.420]  LibertyScrulls.com and get a little more information
[21:12.420 --> 21:14.420]  Get a little bit more idea of
[21:14.420 --> 21:16.420]  What some of y'all will be getting out there
[21:16.420 --> 21:21.700]  there. These will make great gifts for the holiday season. So folks, I would
[21:21.700 --> 21:25.140]  encourage you to please donate because he's only going to be giving away a
[21:25.140 --> 21:29.500]  limited number of these items. And Martin will talk some more about these
[21:29.500 --> 21:33.340]  items and he has a book as well. So Martin, why don't you tell us about the
[21:33.340 --> 21:36.740]  book and tell us about some more about your items.
[21:36.740 --> 21:45.760]  Yes Deborah, actually I have, last year I published, self-published actually, Little
[21:45.760 --> 21:54.860]  Purly's Hope, which is a children's book based on a historical fossil whose name
[21:54.860 --> 22:00.620]  is Little Purly. And the story I wrote, not to be on Barnes and Noble bookshelves,
[22:00.620 --> 22:04.600]  but to be in the kids hands who, you know, are going through, you know,
[22:04.600 --> 22:09.260]  undeserved troubles. You know, kids who are in hospitals and children's
[22:09.260 --> 22:15.660]  centers and things like that. So basically therefore giving to kids who,
[22:15.660 --> 22:20.940]  you know, need some inspiration. And it goes into a story about Little Purly has
[22:20.940 --> 22:25.740]  a grain of sand in her shell and she's uncomfortable and really suffering. And
[22:25.740 --> 22:32.660]  so her grandmother comes along, Grandmother Pearl, Purly, Grandmother
[22:32.660 --> 22:38.900]  Pearl, excuse me, and tells Little Purly that, you know, she is forming a pearl. So
[22:38.900 --> 22:44.780]  once Little Purly realizes that, you know, she starts opening up and a pearl
[22:44.780 --> 22:49.820]  starts shining within her. And so she now has a pearl and so she forgets all of
[22:49.820 --> 22:57.300]  her troubles because she sees the light, the positive outcome of her present
[22:57.300 --> 23:04.820]  situation, so to speak. And then I have in that book, it's a little
[23:04.820 --> 23:09.260]  educational information on the fossils themselves who are the characters in the
[23:09.260 --> 23:15.740]  story and about the pearl, about little facts about the pearl. For kids, you know, to learn
[23:15.740 --> 23:25.940]  something about that pearl and how it does represent something very,
[23:25.940 --> 23:31.300]  very precious and the only gem in the world that's created by a living
[23:31.300 --> 23:39.020]  creature. So this is something that's very special that people can
[23:39.020 --> 23:43.340]  learn from. And so got a little education inspiration. Now we have some
[23:43.340 --> 23:49.860]  collaboration in the end where there's positive quotes from community, people
[23:49.860 --> 23:58.940]  who donated a positive quote for the book, or I've used like their quote that
[23:58.940 --> 24:05.340]  involved the context of the story in relation to the kids who may be, you
[24:05.340 --> 24:10.100]  know, needing a little, encouraging some positives, some reconnection with, you
[24:10.100 --> 24:22.180]  know, I guess a little reconnection with, I guess the, I guess the
[24:22.180 --> 24:26.660]  inspiration, maybe get a little inspiration, reconnect with the, I guess the
[24:26.660 --> 24:34.700]  fossils kind of tell stories. So I guess to say that, but, so that book there's,
[24:34.700 --> 24:41.820]  I'm offering that one. I have ten copies available and for $20
[24:41.820 --> 24:48.260]  donors, I will sign a copy for them and if I would have their name, I would
[24:48.260 --> 24:55.540]  be glad to name them in my signing, not just my signature. So I would like
[24:55.540 --> 25:01.300]  to coordinate that with Deborah, if they get the names of the folks and such. So I
[25:01.300 --> 25:08.900]  have a ten Little Pearlies Hope books available at $20. For top $20
[25:08.900 --> 25:15.700]  donors, they're signed copies of Little Pearlies Hope and it'd be great if for
[25:15.700 --> 25:20.100]  all kids because there's, you know, really a good positive story about, you know,
[25:20.100 --> 25:26.260]  how, you know, when a person opens up, you know, that then only then can you see
[25:26.260 --> 25:32.860]  the pearl inside. When a person opens up inside, they have, they have,
[25:32.860 --> 25:40.380]  they're not shutting things out and their spirit is able to, you
[25:40.380 --> 25:46.380]  know, get hope. That hope is then able to heal and that's the whole, that's the whole
[25:46.380 --> 25:52.820]  plan really is to help heal through hope and a little inspiration sometimes, that
[25:52.820 --> 25:58.460]  little hope we get carries us through to the next. And that's also the basis of
[25:58.460 --> 26:04.540]  the scrolls. You know, some people, you know, have a, you know, something that
[26:04.540 --> 26:08.780]  steers them that they want to keep near to them and so I like to scroll it up
[26:08.780 --> 26:17.500]  for them and send it to them. I use the AANA 12-step program and the, also do the
[26:17.500 --> 26:23.140]  Serenity Prayer on the scroll and I form a cross with it and I do it like a
[26:23.140 --> 26:28.940]  step to step for people to keep near them to hold on to that. Some people need
[26:28.940 --> 26:36.460]  that and that may be a thing that's been through to the next, you know, through
[26:36.460 --> 26:44.620]  the next battle with their sickness though. Hello? Oh yes, I'm here. I'm
[26:44.620 --> 26:50.260]  listening. It's a beautiful story. So folks, you, you heard it. He's got 10 of
[26:50.260 --> 26:55.580]  these books available, children's books, so if you, you have a little one or if
[26:55.580 --> 26:59.100]  you know someone who has a little one and you would like one of these books
[26:59.100 --> 27:02.620]  for a $20 donation, he's got 10 available and I think it's a beautiful
[27:02.620 --> 27:10.220]  story. You know, it also shows that, you know, sometimes the, the best of us, the
[27:10.220 --> 27:14.140]  best that's inside of us will come out when we are put through trials and
[27:14.140 --> 27:19.700]  tribulations and sufferings. Exactly, right. It really is a beautiful story and, and it
[27:19.700 --> 27:24.580]  also has a lot of spiritual significance too because in the, in the Bible the
[27:24.580 --> 27:31.500]  significance of the pearl, of course, has to do with, you know, Christ being wounded
[27:31.500 --> 27:37.740]  by us, a grain of sand, the little center, you know, that wounded our Lord on the
[27:37.740 --> 27:44.020]  cross, but in that, in that wounding, the Holy Spirit came out and, and He, and
[27:44.020 --> 27:49.460]  secretes around us and inside of us this little grain of sand and turns us into
[27:49.460 --> 27:53.180]  pearls and so that's actually, you know, when people talk about the, the quote
[27:53.180 --> 27:57.860]  unquote pearly gates of the New Jerusalem, which is actually not heaven,
[27:57.860 --> 28:03.380]  it's the, it's the new heavenly city, we are the pearls, we are the gates, okay? We,
[28:03.380 --> 28:10.540]  we are the gates because we are those who can be an entrance to others to meet
[28:10.540 --> 28:14.900]  Christ and so there's a lot of significance there with the pearl and
[28:14.900 --> 28:19.340]  so, and ultimately, you know, the building of the church, so it's a beautiful story. Go ahead, Martin.
[28:19.340 --> 28:25.020]  One thing is, of course, two things. One is you never cast your pearl before the
[28:25.020 --> 28:29.820]  swine. That too. And who are the swine or the unclean and those who are, you know,
[28:29.820 --> 28:37.060]  obviously not doing what God would have done as, as, as, you know, as our country
[28:37.060 --> 28:40.620]  has been founded on those words, you know, those are the words that America was
[28:40.620 --> 28:46.820]  made great by, so we need to, you know, basically hold, hold on to that and, and
[28:46.820 --> 28:52.660]  you know, it's just a, it's just a lot of work for, for you, you know, just you. It's
[28:52.660 --> 28:58.260]  like, don't you feel like it's just you out there doing that? Debra, what you doing?
[28:58.260 --> 29:05.020]  Sometimes, sometimes, but you know, we, sometimes I do feel like it's just me,
[29:05.020 --> 29:09.500]  but you know, most of the time I feel like I've got a lot of support and that
[29:09.500 --> 29:14.380]  we're, we're a team around here. Well, that's what carries you through is some
[29:14.380 --> 29:19.620]  of that support that gives you hope that, you know, hey, God is providing, you know?
[29:19.620 --> 29:24.140]  It's not, it's not what you can do on your own strength. It's what God does to
[29:24.140 --> 29:29.580]  others and that's what it's about. It's about others. It's about being unselfish
[29:29.580 --> 29:35.620]  and that's a little pearly book is about. Well, it's a beautiful story. All right, we
[29:35.620 --> 29:39.340]  are going to break and when we come back, Martin, I want to get a little bit into
[29:39.340 --> 29:45.300]  the other items and what people can receive for what level of donation and
[29:45.300 --> 29:50.740]  folks, if you have any questions for Martin, you can call in 512-646-1984.
[29:50.740 --> 29:55.060]  We'll be having Martin probably for about one more segment and then we'll be
[29:55.060 --> 30:00.220]  taking your calls. So, we'll be right back on the other side. This is the rule of law.
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[33:32.660 --> 34:00.180]  Okay, folks, we're back. This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah
[34:00.180 --> 34:04.180]  Stevens here on this Thursday, December 12th. We are here with one of our
[34:04.180 --> 34:10.020]  longtime listeners, Mr. Martin Fry from libertyscrolls.com, offering up some of
[34:10.020 --> 34:17.460]  his beautiful artisan work, some of it handmade, the stonework, and he's
[34:17.460 --> 34:21.380]  going to tell us some more now about some of these products like the scrolls,
[34:21.380 --> 34:26.700]  how they're made, and he's going to give us the rundown on what items he's
[34:26.700 --> 34:31.820]  offering, for what level of donation, and exactly how many he has available. So
[34:31.820 --> 34:36.580]  this isn't an unlimited offer, this is a limited offer, so if you want to get in
[34:36.580 --> 34:40.940]  on some of this stuff, I would, folks, I would suggest getting in on the donations
[34:40.940 --> 34:45.540]  as soon as possible after you hear Martin's, you know, Martin's list here
[34:45.540 --> 34:50.700]  because it's the the gift giving season and you may want to get in on some of
[34:50.700 --> 34:57.460]  this. So Martin, tell us some about the scrolls and how they're made. Sure, sure
[34:57.460 --> 35:05.420]  Deborah. Yeah, there's basically, I saw a quality vellum parchment that, you know,
[35:05.420 --> 35:10.620]  had all the properties that I wanted for this particular patient. It's a
[35:10.620 --> 35:18.740]  transparent vellum. I get it printed on a high source Xerox printer that, you
[35:18.740 --> 35:25.060]  know, it causes the ink to adhere well because the scroll is deformed paper and
[35:25.060 --> 35:33.500]  so it adheres well. And then I get that printed up and then I hand
[35:33.500 --> 35:39.620]  tear it so it has a kind of a deckled edge and it's like a feathered edge so
[35:39.620 --> 35:46.740]  it's not just like a cut paper. It's actually hand torn and then
[35:46.740 --> 35:53.540]  tea stained. It's got tea stained edges and so that kind of represents, you know,
[35:53.540 --> 36:01.580]  obviously our forefathers, you know, battle for independence and that's
[36:01.580 --> 36:07.140]  what it took there then. So this is what I, you know, do
[36:07.140 --> 36:13.860]  representationally to signify, you know, everything that I can to in
[36:13.860 --> 36:22.260]  memory of, you know, America's heritage and our history, which, you know, I'd
[36:22.260 --> 36:27.260]  like to just commemorate with these scrolls. So I scroll these vellum
[36:27.260 --> 36:36.580]  parchment pieces and hand torn and tea stained pieces in various forms. I just
[36:36.580 --> 36:42.660]  have a regular pocket scroll which you can put in your pocket to keep with you and
[36:42.660 --> 36:46.780]  it's very durable. You just don't want to, you know, abuse it. You want to take
[36:46.780 --> 36:52.820]  care of it and protect it by yourself. Then I have these encased varieties
[36:52.820 --> 36:59.660]  which are encased in a brass shell casing that I actually get from, of all
[36:59.660 --> 37:06.060]  places, Liberty Hill Texas Shooting Range and so Liberty Stickers makes, I mean,
[37:06.060 --> 37:09.260]  Liberty Stickers makes my flag and Liberty Hill Shooting Range. So there's
[37:09.260 --> 37:16.220]  very, a lot of representational art here in this, in these pieces and these
[37:16.220 --> 37:19.660]  are hard to find a shell. So, you know, these days they're getting everybody's
[37:19.660 --> 37:27.420]  shells, you know, Deborah. So I've got a number, quite a number on hand that I've
[37:27.420 --> 37:35.300]  already produced at least a hundred. I've given away already a number to some
[37:35.300 --> 37:40.980]  veterans who are really deserving and so that's what it's about is honoring
[37:40.980 --> 37:44.420]  somebody, you know, with these and show them that, you know, you're grateful for
[37:44.420 --> 37:55.140]  their, for their service to our country. And so I'm offering the scrolls in the
[37:55.140 --> 38:02.260]  pocket scrolls which I have 20 of for a $5 donor and those are just the
[38:02.260 --> 38:13.580]  plain scroll and it has a gold binder ring on it, gold signifying purity and so
[38:13.580 --> 38:19.180]  these are simple scrolls that are, you know, you learn to, you learn to, you
[38:19.180 --> 38:24.620]  notice it's in your pocket when you have it so it reminds you that way. I also, I'm
[38:24.620 --> 38:28.300]  going to be coming out with some similar ones for necklaces for ladies and such
[38:28.300 --> 38:32.980]  like that but now this is what I'm offering. But anyway, I also have the
[38:32.980 --> 38:46.420]  independent. It's a, it's a, it's a actual 30-06 brass shell casing with a bullet
[38:46.420 --> 38:55.180]  head and scroll inside on a fused brass rod and that one could be worn, it's
[38:55.180 --> 39:01.820]  on a, has a swivel on it so actually the scroll, you can scroll, get scrolly with
[39:01.820 --> 39:08.020]  it and scroll, scroll with it, scroll, scroll and you can actually wear it and scroll
[39:08.020 --> 39:14.300]  while it's on your, on your, your, your, as a pendant or I make a hat pin, I make
[39:14.300 --> 39:19.220]  the hat pin and it'll be up shortly. The independent I'm offering is one
[39:19.220 --> 39:28.380]  independent, it's a $35 first edition. The viscroll has your choice of
[39:28.380 --> 39:33.580]  documents, choose your documents inside of those and even the pocket scrolls you
[39:33.580 --> 39:37.660]  can choose, Declaration of Independence, Constitution of the United States or the
[39:37.660 --> 39:43.020]  Bill of Rights, whatever is your preference, your choice. Or, you know, you
[39:43.020 --> 39:50.060]  can have one of each. So the pocket scrolls all have, you know, several.
[39:50.060 --> 39:55.980]  Eventually, I'm going to, I got Magitation Proclamation and others lined up to, to
[39:55.980 --> 40:00.940]  incorporate. I even have the, my wife's from, from Mexico, I'm going to do for her
[40:00.940 --> 40:07.460]  family, Mexican flag with the, the, they want to watch though, which is very dear
[40:07.460 --> 40:12.040]  to them and then they have a source of income down there. But it'll obviously be
[40:12.040 --> 40:17.780]  a different setting. I don't think I can get these chasings across over there. But
[40:17.780 --> 40:23.980]  anyway, that my vision is to, you know, help inspire others and keep America,
[40:23.980 --> 40:29.420]  America, you know, our family working and keep our, keep our industry here and
[40:29.420 --> 40:34.660]  not China. That's where it's all going and if we let it. So I'm fighting to not
[40:34.660 --> 40:40.940]  get it in the national quartermasters who would, you know, who would kind of
[40:40.940 --> 40:47.180]  like, like the mafia, they would probably just take it in and leave me, you know,
[40:47.180 --> 40:54.940]  just a pittance and then it wouldn't do, it wouldn't do what its purpose to do.
[40:54.940 --> 41:02.340]  And that's for the people who, well, we, we are, you know, we the people, not, not
[41:02.340 --> 41:10.340]  for those, those who would oppress us with, with, with their power. So anyway,
[41:10.340 --> 41:17.060]  a vow for one independent at 35. And then I have a Statute of Liberty. It's
[41:17.060 --> 41:23.900]  independent that's set in stone with an American flag to complete the display.
[41:23.900 --> 41:37.700]  And the Statute is a upright position, pre-standing scroll. And so yeah,
[41:37.700 --> 41:45.940]  that, that is for a $50 donator. That's for a $50 donation. Excuse me, I'm kind of
[41:45.940 --> 41:53.060]  almost distracted here. Okay, so the Statute of Liberty, I call them. So they
[41:53.060 --> 42:00.460]  are, the statutes are within, within these casings set in stone. And so I will offer
[42:00.460 --> 42:08.500]  one for $50 donor. And then I have a double set, which is two casings in
[42:08.500 --> 42:17.020]  upright position with American flag, Liberty stickers set in stone. And I will
[42:17.020 --> 42:21.900]  give them a white marble stone base, which the white marble represents
[42:21.900 --> 42:28.660]  purity of the foundational words. And I use white marble, white limestone, or white
[42:28.660 --> 42:38.860]  granite, specifically for, you know, for its representational purposes. And I also
[42:38.860 --> 42:46.980]  use them for, that I've made it to a star shape, Statute of Liberty. The towers you
[42:46.980 --> 42:55.060]  can choose, the twin towers I call them, or the double set, $75 donation. They
[42:55.060 --> 43:00.260]  would, the donor would get their choice of two documents, either the Constitution
[43:00.260 --> 43:03.900]  and Bill of Rights, or the Constitution and Declaration, or the Declaration and
[43:03.900 --> 43:12.820]  Bill of Rights. So any freedom of choice there? Sure. So we have 20 pocket scrolls
[43:12.820 --> 43:24.460]  for $5 donors. Pocket Liberty scrolls, actually. One independent, $35 donation.
[43:24.460 --> 43:31.340]  And I will throw in a flag made at Liberty stickers in that one. Statute of
[43:31.340 --> 43:38.140]  Liberty, $50 donor. Twin, I mean, the double set for $75 donors. And of course,
[43:38.140 --> 43:44.140]  Little Pearlies Hope for $20 donors. All right, that is awesome. Thank you very
[43:44.140 --> 43:48.660]  much, Martin. And folks, we will have some links to these items, so you'll see what
[43:48.660 --> 43:52.060]  you're getting for these donations. I'll have that posted later tonight. Martin,
[43:52.060 --> 43:55.980]  thank you for joining us tonight. I really appreciate it. Well, I thank you.
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[46:26.180 --> 46:52.980]  Okay folks, we are back watching the Sparks Guide. This is the Rule of Law,
[46:52.980 --> 46:57.740]  Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens. And folks out there, if you're an artisan or
[46:57.740 --> 47:01.740]  if you have any items you would like to donate to the fundraiser, please let us
[47:01.740 --> 47:06.900]  know. And we had a slight diversion there, but we like to interview local artisans
[47:06.900 --> 47:13.420]  sometimes. We need to support local businesses and local artisans. So we
[47:13.420 --> 47:16.540]  wanted to have, we've actually have been meaning to have Martin on for quite a
[47:16.540 --> 47:21.780]  while now. So okay, Randy, we have a caller, Amin from Texas. Do you want to go
[47:21.780 --> 47:23.980]  straight to our callers, or do you have something that you want to talk about
[47:23.980 --> 47:28.740]  next? Yeah, let's go to callers. If we run out of callers, I want to talk about the
[47:28.740 --> 47:34.940]  judge that convicted me at Cherokee County having to mysteriously resign.
[47:34.940 --> 47:40.140]  Interesting. Okay, we have Amin in Texas. Amin, thank you for calling in. What is
[47:40.140 --> 47:46.380]  your question or comment tonight? Yes, thank you for having me. My question was, I
[47:46.380 --> 47:53.900]  want to ask, Randy, if I've been dealing with a judge, it's kind of like I had two
[47:53.900 --> 47:59.820]  judges, a traffic ticket and a traffic ticket. The judge, it definitely wouldn't
[47:59.820 --> 48:03.100]  let me bring any, he wouldn't talk about anything dealing with the Constitution.
[48:03.100 --> 48:13.620]  And he, we went to trial. He picked the jury for me. I objected. Because I've
[48:13.620 --> 48:20.140]  told him that I had a federal lawsuit against him. The judge got upset, and he
[48:20.140 --> 48:29.160]  just went on with the trial. And he just went on. He gave me some papers. I wanted the
[48:29.160 --> 48:38.060]  jury to pick my punishment. So I filled that paper out under duress. You can't
[48:38.060 --> 48:44.980]  contest. I contested it. Duress, threat, duress. So he basically, knowing that I still
[48:44.980 --> 48:50.340]  have this lawsuit, he, the jury found me guilty. Anything that I would mention
[48:50.340 --> 48:58.020]  about the ticket, the judge scratched everything. He told the jury to just
[48:58.020 --> 49:05.780]  ignore that. So basically, they found me guilty. Never mind, I'll give you the
[49:05.780 --> 49:09.860]  punishment. I said, Judge, wait a minute. I have the paper that says that I chose
[49:09.860 --> 49:14.380]  the jury. No, I'm going to give you the punishment. I'm going to max out every ticket.
[49:14.380 --> 49:19.820]  Well, it was four tickets. They never served them on me. It just came in the
[49:19.820 --> 49:34.300]  mail. So that led me to, I filed with that lawsuit. Wait a minute, wait a minute. We spent the whole show going over all of the details. What is the issue? What is the question?
[49:34.300 --> 49:42.380]  Okay, the question is, I got a letter, an eviction notice on the door, on my door.
[49:42.380 --> 49:51.340]  This is the house now. That same lawsuit judge was on the eviction of my, on my
[49:51.340 --> 49:59.740]  door. Yeah, he's a justice in the peace step. Well, he was a city court up in
[49:59.740 --> 50:07.580]  Macaulayville. No, no, no. He can't be a city court. He has to be a JP judge. Right.
[50:07.580 --> 50:14.140]  And he filed an appeal. That appeal went to the JP judge. The JP judge. Wait a minute, hold on.
[50:14.140 --> 50:22.380]  A municipal court judge cannot sit on a forcible detainer hearing. That
[50:22.380 --> 50:28.380]  has to be a justice of the peace. Exactly. And that was the justice of the peace
[50:28.380 --> 50:34.220]  judge that appeals for the traffic ticket somehow went to the justice of the
[50:34.220 --> 50:38.140]  peace from what the municipal court told me. It was going to go to the justice of
[50:38.140 --> 50:45.700]  the peace. I said, no, no. This is, something's not right here. It never goes to the
[50:45.700 --> 50:50.020]  justice of the peace for me. Municipal will go to the county court, county judge.
[50:50.020 --> 50:56.340]  That's what I was thinking. And I got, I got a letter from, well, I came home one
[50:56.340 --> 51:01.220]  day and on my door was an eviction notice. Well, on the eviction notice was-
[51:01.220 --> 51:04.820]  Wait a minute. You're confusing me. What does that have to do with the ticket?
[51:04.820 --> 51:11.060]  Well, that ticket was on the door with the eviction notice. And I filed the
[51:11.060 --> 51:18.620]  lawsuit on these judges. Okay, wait a minute. Someone's not making sense here. Is there a
[51:18.620 --> 51:29.020]  question here? Yes. The question was, I just was- Can the judge that you have
[51:29.020 --> 51:37.700]  filed a suit against sit in a hearing? Yes, that was one of my questions. The fact that you
[51:37.700 --> 51:49.940]  have sued the judge does not necessarily disqualify. Okay. Here's the reason. If I
[51:49.940 --> 51:55.380]  have a judge I didn't like, and I didn't want him to sit in the case, all I'm going to do is sue him.
[51:55.380 --> 52:01.140]  I'll sue him for anything. I'll sue him because I don't like the way he parts his hair. It was
[52:01.140 --> 52:04.580]  interesting throwing out of court, but then I could come into court and say,
[52:04.580 --> 52:09.380]  Judge, you can't sit on this case. I'll sue you. You see the problem?
[52:10.260 --> 52:15.540]  All right. I filed three lawsuits against him in the past, but yes, I understand what you're saying.
[52:15.540 --> 52:24.580]  Yes. Did you win any of those lawsuits? No, they went into the courts and through
[52:25.220 --> 52:29.940]  the first phase they were dismissed. I appealed one to Fifth Circuit,
[52:29.940 --> 52:36.180]  but dealing with the poppers, I was filling out the poppers form, and I put my own poppers in,
[52:36.180 --> 52:40.100]  and they just dismissed it without permission. I never filed again.
[52:40.100 --> 52:51.860]  Okay. When you file in formal poppers, the trial court has the authority to look at your suit and
[52:51.860 --> 53:03.300]  determine if the suit is a viable action and dismiss it because it's in formal poppers.
[53:03.300 --> 53:13.380]  If you pay the file, then they can't dismiss. Not that way. They have to dismiss based on their
[53:13.380 --> 53:19.540]  motion. So the problem, that's the drawback with the formal poppers. But the fact is,
[53:19.540 --> 53:25.300]  you sued the judge, does not necessarily refuse to disqualify him.
[53:25.300 --> 53:33.860]  Oh, okay. Now the second part of that was the eviction court. I've been suing this bank for
[53:33.860 --> 53:43.620]  the past two years, just under two years. Well, as I've been suing them, in August 18th for an
[53:43.620 --> 53:51.140]  eviction, they had a hearing without me back in April. They didn't let me know, but I filed it for
[53:51.140 --> 54:01.140]  a jury trial without informing me. So to make a long story short, the judge, which is the-
[54:01.140 --> 54:05.140]  Okay, wait a minute. Get to a question.
[54:05.140 --> 54:15.380]  Okay. The JP judge, I had the constables come out to the door and an issue of eviction notice,
[54:15.380 --> 54:19.220]  eviction notice for two days, 48 hours to be out. For those 48 hours-
[54:19.220 --> 54:27.220]  Okay. What's the question? It's going to be the whole history of everything that happened.
[54:28.180 --> 54:32.580]  They went through the eviction without having an order from the court.
[54:32.580 --> 54:36.500]  Okay. I know what the question is. I'm trying to get you to ask it.
[54:37.220 --> 54:41.140]  Okay. What's my remedy?
[54:42.100 --> 54:47.220]  Yeah. What's my remedy as far as the constables issuing that? They will let me get none of my
[54:47.220 --> 54:54.420]  items. Okay. Hold on. Don't go into all that stuff. If they did not give you notice of the hearing,
[54:54.420 --> 55:04.340]  then you file a petition for writ of mandamus from the county court, asking the county court
[55:04.340 --> 55:11.620]  to order this justice court to reconvene a hearing, giving you proper- to vacate the order,
[55:12.740 --> 55:20.500]  convened in that hearing to which you did not have notice, and reconvene the hearing and give
[55:20.500 --> 55:32.020]  you proper notice. Do you have a quiet title action filed against the property, against the
[55:32.020 --> 55:34.420]  documentation? No, I don't.
[55:35.940 --> 55:41.540]  Get one. Okay. If you have any action filed against these guys?
[55:44.100 --> 55:49.540]  Yes. Yes. Yes. I filed a- Are you being against the judge or against the actual-
[55:49.540 --> 55:55.860]  No, against the people trying to foreclose. Oh, yes. Yes. I filed the action against them,
[55:55.860 --> 56:01.060]  and it also went to Fifth Circuit. Okay. What was the nature of the action that you filed?
[56:02.500 --> 56:06.820]  It was a violation of rights out of 42.
[56:10.100 --> 56:13.940]  You can't sue these guys under 42. Yeah, it was-
[56:13.940 --> 56:20.020]  42 U.S. Code 1983. 42 U.S. Code 1983 is for suing against public officials.
[56:22.420 --> 56:31.300]  Okay. You need to do more homework. Yeah. Yeah. It was- I put- It was several things that I put
[56:31.300 --> 56:35.540]  down in there. I mean, it's been in the courts for about two years. Well, just under two years.
[56:36.180 --> 56:42.340]  But the- I mean, the judge dismissed it August 18th, but then all of a sudden, I went to the
[56:42.340 --> 56:47.140]  consul's office, and they said, no, it's dismissed. The judge dismissed that case. There's no eviction.
[56:47.140 --> 56:51.620]  Well, all of a sudden, in November the 15th, the consul put something on my door,
[56:52.180 --> 56:55.540]  and I said, what is this? I never- Okay. Okay. Okay. I got all that.
[56:56.340 --> 57:02.180]  Dad, you need to file an action with the county court. The county court would be the court to
[57:02.180 --> 57:10.180]  which you would appeal the justice of the pieces determination of right to possession.
[57:10.180 --> 57:18.100]  Okay. So, you need to get a trespass to try title seat filed,
[57:19.140 --> 57:28.100]  challenging the sufficiency of the- of the foreclosure, and a petition- in the trespass
[57:28.100 --> 57:33.300]  to try title seat, a petition for temporary restraining order.
[57:33.300 --> 57:38.900]  That's from what you've told me. You don't have the knowledge to do that.
[57:40.900 --> 57:44.900]  Probably not at this point. I have to do some more research on that.
[57:45.700 --> 57:49.860]  You have to do a lot of research. If you've been red-tagged, you don't have much time.
[57:51.060 --> 57:56.420]  So, the first thing I'd suggest you do is get together a petition for real mandamus
[57:56.420 --> 58:08.500]  to the county court asking for the court to order the JP to void the order and stay execution
[58:08.500 --> 58:14.500]  until a proper hearing can be held. Hang on. We're about to go to break. This is Randy Kelton,
[58:14.500 --> 58:21.700]  Debra Stevens. We will be on radio. Our caller number is 512-646-1984. We'll be taking your
[58:21.700 --> 58:30.740]  calls for the rest of the show. So, give us a call. We've also got some news about the judge who
[58:31.540 --> 58:38.980]  prosecuted me in Cherokee County. He mysteriously resigned the other day after an investigation by
[58:38.980 --> 58:44.260]  the Texas Rangers and the Attorney General. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:26.820 --> 01:03:32.580]  Okay, if I sound like I'm yelling at you, I mean, I don't mean to sound that way,
[01:03:33.780 --> 01:03:43.860]  but I'm kind of frustrated. You're fighting to save your house and it sounds like you're just
[01:03:43.860 --> 01:03:52.420]  kind of doing things off the cuff and it's trying to get you to tell me what's going on. You're
[01:03:52.420 --> 01:04:00.900]  telling me a lot of things that I don't need to hear. And that tells me that when you get before
[01:04:00.900 --> 01:04:08.180]  the court, you tell them a lot of stuff that they don't need to hear. And then when they don't
[01:04:08.180 --> 01:04:17.940]  respond to you, you get frustrated. I understand you get frustrated. So I'm going to make a suggestion.
[01:04:17.940 --> 01:04:29.460]  Go on to RootBlog Radio and get a jurisdiction area. There's a banner on maybe RootBlog or
[01:04:29.460 --> 01:04:34.180]  Logos Radio Network. I go to Logos. Deborah's been doing a lot of work on Logos. She's real
[01:04:34.180 --> 01:04:40.980]  proud of the work she's done. I'm always proud of her. Go to Logos Radio Network and click on the
[01:04:40.980 --> 01:04:50.500]  jurisdiction area banner. Now that's a bit of work, but it will give you the basics that you're
[01:04:50.500 --> 01:04:58.500]  going to need to be able to save your property. I mean, you know what a writ of mandamus is?
[01:04:58.500 --> 01:05:06.340]  A writ of mandamus, yes. That's a, yeah, pretty, kind of. It's something that when you put into
[01:05:06.340 --> 01:05:12.500]  the court, it makes the judge, well, the judge kind of makes the other judge, the lower court,
[01:05:13.380 --> 01:05:22.740]  do their job basically. Yeah. A writ of mandamus is an order by a higher court directing a lower court
[01:05:22.740 --> 01:05:34.260]  to perform a duty it's required to perform. You need to understand what avenues of redress
[01:05:34.260 --> 01:05:40.020]  are available. And when I get someone calling me, if they've been through jurisdiction area,
[01:05:40.020 --> 01:05:46.980]  I can tell very quickly, because I'll say, you need to file a writ of mandamus. They'll know
[01:05:46.980 --> 01:05:54.580]  exactly what I'm talking about. They'll understand where I'm going. They talk about their problem,
[01:05:54.580 --> 01:06:02.580]  what's going on. They tend to talk about it in terms of adjudicatable issues. When I ask
[01:06:02.580 --> 01:06:12.500]  you about your lawsuit, what I was asking for were causes of action. What were the causes of
[01:06:12.500 --> 01:06:21.940]  action that you claimed? And you didn't understand what I was asking for. Give jurisdiction
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[01:07:13.860 --> 01:07:19.860]  I wouldn't recommend it just because it helps the network. I recommend it because it is the best
[01:07:19.860 --> 01:07:28.180]  thing you can do. It's absolutely the basics. Without the basics, you just kind of flounder
[01:07:28.180 --> 01:07:33.940]  around. You try this thing and see if it works. You try this thing and see if it works. When I
[01:07:33.940 --> 01:07:41.540]  get these legal reform patriot guys coming on there, talking about these things they do,
[01:07:41.540 --> 01:07:47.140]  and when they start saying, it works, it always makes me nervous.
[01:07:47.140 --> 01:07:54.340]  Right, right, right. I'm not looking for something that works, but they say it works. It's kind of
[01:07:54.340 --> 01:08:00.740]  like they're waving this around like a magic wand. It's like, woof, it works. No, no, we've got law
[01:08:00.740 --> 01:08:06.900]  here. And once you understand the structure, I don't care what they do. Do whatever you want to
[01:08:06.900 --> 01:08:13.540]  judge. The first thing that Dr. Graves is going to tell you is you don't care what the trial judge
[01:08:13.540 --> 01:08:24.820]  does anyway. Your only purpose in the trial court is to set the record for appeal. And in order to
[01:08:24.820 --> 01:08:33.700]  set the record, you first have to know how to get your evidence in the record, get your claims in
[01:08:33.700 --> 01:08:40.100]  the record, get your objections in the record. You have to know how to do all of that, or you
[01:08:40.100 --> 01:08:49.300]  can't set the record for appeal. And understanding that your own purpose is to set the record for
[01:08:49.300 --> 01:08:58.900]  appeal, it protects you from feeling so betrayed and mistreated when the trial judge rules against
[01:08:58.900 --> 01:09:08.260]  you. When they say that a lawyer who represents itself has a fool for a client, they're right
[01:09:10.020 --> 01:09:16.740]  because it is extremely difficult to represent yourself when you have a dog in the hunt.
[01:09:18.340 --> 01:09:24.820]  The lawyer comes in and he don't have a dog in the hunt. He's just following the steps. When the
[01:09:24.820 --> 01:09:30.660]  judge rules against him, he doesn't see somebody coming, dragging his family out of the house,
[01:09:30.660 --> 01:09:36.580]  throwing all their stuff out the street. He doesn't have those emotional responses. He goes to,
[01:09:36.580 --> 01:09:42.340]  okay, what's our remedy for this? And he moves over to the next step. Doing it yourself is
[01:09:42.340 --> 01:09:48.900]  difficult. You don't do all your homework, but they're going to toss you. So this is the best
[01:09:48.900 --> 01:09:55.460]  place to go. Get your restriction and go to it. But immediately, if you have a red tag, then
[01:09:57.620 --> 01:10:05.060]  the one thing you will almost always get a good appellate reading on is lack of notice.
[01:10:06.980 --> 01:10:14.180]  The courts really don't like for any adjudication to occur where one party didn't get
[01:10:14.180 --> 01:10:20.900]  an opportunity to address his side. So when you go in and say you lack notice,
[01:10:22.020 --> 01:10:28.100]  if you go to the county judge with a petition for temporary restraining order
[01:10:29.060 --> 01:10:34.820]  so that you can have time to prepare a request for rid of that damage.
[01:10:36.580 --> 01:10:42.980]  Right. I gave up the property already because I gave it up because the constable's put something
[01:10:42.980 --> 01:10:48.660]  on the door, but the judge had never given an order. The constable acted on their own behalf
[01:10:48.660 --> 01:10:54.580]  and put eviction notice on the door. Oh, man. You really need your dictionary. Okay.
[01:10:54.580 --> 01:10:59.220]  You're out of the property? Yeah, I'm out of the property. And then I found out that there was
[01:10:59.220 --> 01:11:04.820]  never no order given by the judge. The constable made the order up. The judge had already dismissed
[01:11:04.820 --> 01:11:10.580]  the case back in August. But in November, the constable took the same thing that he dismissed
[01:11:10.580 --> 01:11:16.340]  in August, the same eviction notice that was dismissed. The constable used that same one,
[01:11:16.340 --> 01:11:21.300]  puts a new date, but there's nothing in the court documents where the judge gave an order.
[01:11:21.300 --> 01:11:26.500]  The last thing was that the judge... Okay. Do you have a certified
[01:11:27.860 --> 01:11:33.700]  docket sheet from the record showing what documents have actually been filed?
[01:11:33.700 --> 01:11:39.140]  What? I have a guidance service. I just pulled it off their site.
[01:11:40.500 --> 01:11:50.020]  Okay. You troop right down to that clerk's office, ask for the clerk to give you the docket sheet
[01:11:50.980 --> 01:11:54.500]  for everything that's been filed in the record. Okay.
[01:11:54.500 --> 01:12:05.860]  Okay. You need to be able to prove that on this day, at this time, there was no proper order.
[01:12:07.300 --> 01:12:14.340]  But I have this document that reports to be an order that the constables relied on to evict me
[01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:21.380]  from my property. If you throw a man out of his home on the street, that is a big deal.
[01:12:21.380 --> 01:12:28.580]  And when you do that, while you're prominently displaying deadly weapons, that is a very, very
[01:12:28.580 --> 01:12:34.900]  big deal. So essentially, that's what they've done. You need to sue the constables.
[01:12:35.780 --> 01:12:39.700]  Okay. And that's what I was asking because there was never no order. And then they wouldn't let
[01:12:39.700 --> 01:12:44.500]  my stuff for stoned out. They wouldn't even let me get any... The police department wouldn't let me
[01:12:44.500 --> 01:12:51.380]  get any of my stuff for all of my thousands of dollars worth of things. I couldn't even touch.
[01:12:51.380 --> 01:12:55.620]  And I said, well, you mean a stranger could come and pick this up off the street? It's open to the
[01:12:55.620 --> 01:13:01.300]  public, but I can't get my own stuff? And he said, no, they said that you just can't get it. But
[01:13:01.300 --> 01:13:06.660]  yeah, anybody else can come and get your stuff. How is that? So I had to leave all my stuff there,
[01:13:06.660 --> 01:13:12.820]  my children's clothes, all my children's stuff. Okay. You sued them for all of that,
[01:13:12.820 --> 01:13:22.980]  all of that, plus you sued them for it in triplicate and the best impunity side. Pain and
[01:13:22.980 --> 01:13:30.740]  suffering, you've got a lot to go after. This is a big deal. Okay. They throw you and your kids out
[01:13:30.740 --> 01:13:37.380]  in the street. That's a big deal. You need to start petitioning the sheriff's department for the
[01:13:37.380 --> 01:13:45.060]  names of all of the officers who were participated in that action. And the way you get that
[01:13:46.260 --> 01:13:51.540]  is you go to whoever the paymaster for the sheriff's department is, whoever the accounting
[01:13:51.540 --> 01:13:59.060]  department is, whoever pays them. Find out everybody who was on the payroll that day.
[01:13:59.940 --> 01:14:04.980]  Then you find out who was... You start looking at your schedule. When you start digging around in
[01:14:04.980 --> 01:14:14.820]  their records this way, now they don't know they got a problem. They evicted you with no proper
[01:14:14.820 --> 01:14:27.860]  order. No order. Don't go to the federal courts. Okay. Where are you at 817, especially if you're
[01:14:27.860 --> 01:14:38.660]  in Fort Worth? Yeah. Judge McBride will dismiss your case no matter what. If you file pro se,
[01:14:39.220 --> 01:14:47.860]  Judge McBride will throw your case out no matter what. These guys are bought and paid for.
[01:14:47.860 --> 01:14:56.420]  The only place you can expect to find any kind of remedy is in the state courts.
[01:14:58.420 --> 01:15:06.900]  Sergeant, district or county? District. District. Okay. This would be an action in the district
[01:15:06.900 --> 01:15:14.580]  court. Since you're not going to be thrown out tomorrow, that was my concern. If this is a
[01:15:14.580 --> 01:15:27.460]  post eviction, now you have time. You need to call in tomorrow night when we do the foreclosure
[01:15:27.460 --> 01:15:34.260]  portion on the first two hours. There's a whole lot to know here. There's a lot of things to do.
[01:15:34.260 --> 01:15:42.340]  The first thing you need to do is go down to the county recorder's office. Ask the county recorder,
[01:15:42.340 --> 01:15:50.900]  someone there, tell them that you are computer intolerant. You don't understand these loose
[01:15:50.900 --> 01:16:00.820]  ankle gadgets. Will you please run a search on this property and give me everything that has been
[01:16:00.820 --> 01:16:09.700]  filed since a warranty deed was issued in my name? They'll run a search. They'll do it by your name.
[01:16:09.700 --> 01:16:14.660]  Do it by your name and give you a list of all the documents that's been filed.
[01:16:15.780 --> 01:16:19.620]  Then get a copy of all of those documents. They don't have to be certified.
[01:16:22.100 --> 01:16:29.540]  Are you in Tarrant County? Yes, Tarrant County. Okay. All you really need is the list.
[01:16:30.980 --> 01:16:38.420]  You can download all of these from your website. I can show you a different way to do that.
[01:16:38.420 --> 01:16:43.460]  You can get all of these documents and then we can talk about what's in them.
[01:16:45.380 --> 01:16:49.380]  Okay. Hang on. We're about to go to break. This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens. We will,
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[01:19:25.620 --> 01:19:32.900]  Okay, we are back. Ben Stevens with U of R radio and we're talking to Amin in Texas.
[01:19:34.500 --> 01:19:39.060]  Amin, have you looked at the documents in the counter recorder's office?
[01:19:41.060 --> 01:19:47.300]  No, I haven't. I have to look. Okay, then what? I would like you to take the phone receiver you're
[01:19:47.300 --> 01:19:57.300]  talking into and beat yourself around the eyes and the ears. Okay, everything that matters
[01:19:58.660 --> 01:20:08.740]  is filed in those records. That's where the action is. The first place you always look,
[01:20:08.740 --> 01:20:16.740]  when someone calls me about a foreclosure issue, the first thing I want to know is what is filed
[01:20:16.740 --> 01:20:23.540]  in the county records. How old is your note? When did you originally get the loan?
[01:20:25.860 --> 01:20:31.220]  It was actually I bought the property from the actual, you know, the person that got the note.
[01:20:32.180 --> 01:20:40.020]  It was through a management company when I got the property. So that's what, and my whole point is
[01:20:40.020 --> 01:20:46.660]  for did you buy the property? You obviously did buy it outright. So you had to get a loan.
[01:20:47.860 --> 01:20:50.980]  Well, I got it. I bought it on the contract.
[01:20:55.620 --> 01:21:03.860]  Oh, and it is. Okay, basically, this is okay, just for a private individual.
[01:21:03.860 --> 01:21:12.100]  Yes, from a private individual. Did they get a deed of trust filed in the record?
[01:21:14.100 --> 01:21:19.220]  Yes, they got a deed of trust and everything filed into records themselves.
[01:21:20.260 --> 01:21:30.180]  What does the deed of trust say? Okay, hold on. Another question. Is the entity who is doing the
[01:21:30.180 --> 01:21:37.540]  foreclosure the same entity from whom you purchased the property? No, it's a different entity.
[01:21:39.780 --> 01:21:46.580]  Where did they come from? How did they get an agency standing or capacity to make a claim
[01:21:46.580 --> 01:21:58.020]  against your note? Now, hold on. Don't tell me what you think gives them authority. Tell me what you
[01:21:58.020 --> 01:22:10.660]  know gives them authority. Well, they said they bought it at the foreclosure sale,
[01:22:10.660 --> 01:22:16.580]  and they had a right to... Okay, hold on. Hold on. Okay, back to my question.
[01:22:18.500 --> 01:22:25.780]  Do you think the entity who foreclosed on you, was that the same entity from whom you purchased
[01:22:25.780 --> 01:22:33.540]  the property? No, it wasn't. Okay, that's not the entity that purchased the property at foreclosure,
[01:22:35.220 --> 01:22:41.380]  but the one that actually foreclosed on it. So, how did this entity give a claim against your
[01:22:41.380 --> 01:22:49.380]  property? The one who did the foreclosure or ordered the trustee to do the foreclosure?
[01:22:49.380 --> 01:22:58.260]  Yeah, they said that it was assigned to them from a previous lender. Okay, who said that?
[01:22:58.980 --> 01:23:04.340]  How did they say that? Did they file that in the record? Who filed it in the record,
[01:23:04.340 --> 01:23:10.260]  and when did they file it in the record? They filed it into record. Well,
[01:23:10.260 --> 01:23:18.980]  I couldn't find anything down at the county. Okay, here's the deal. 13.001 Texas Property Code.
[01:23:20.580 --> 01:23:30.980]  Any claim against real property not acknowledged or proven and properly filed in the county records
[01:23:30.980 --> 01:23:41.620]  is void as to the holder. Understand, the county recorder's office is the public record.
[01:23:42.740 --> 01:23:52.660]  You are the public. If you can't find it, it's not properly filed. And that was precisely the reason
[01:23:52.660 --> 01:24:01.060]  that I asked you to go to the clerk and get the clerk to tell you everything that had been filed,
[01:24:01.060 --> 01:24:11.940]  because if the clerk can't find it, it's not properly filed. It is not publicly available.
[01:24:13.300 --> 01:24:21.380]  I have a friend that got a loan on his property that Chase filed the deed of trust
[01:24:21.380 --> 01:24:33.700]  under his wife's name. He owned the property before he married, so he came to me to sell me.
[01:24:33.700 --> 01:24:37.940]  I was going to sell him a business, and he wanted me to take a claim against his property
[01:24:39.700 --> 01:24:45.060]  as a security for the sale of the business. And I went down and looked in the record,
[01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:52.580]  and I did not find the lien against his property. So I took a lien. Now Chase is trying to foreclose,
[01:24:52.580 --> 01:24:59.780]  and I said, hold on, guys. I have a lien filed in the record. And everybody said,
[01:24:59.780 --> 01:25:05.700]  well, we owe you the trust. He said, yes, but it's not publicly available. Well, we filed it.
[01:25:05.700 --> 01:25:14.260]  And so, well, the clerk filed it in the wrong place. Your problem, not my problem.
[01:25:15.540 --> 01:25:25.300]  My problem is I get to trust what I see in the public record. If the clerk did not properly file
[01:25:25.300 --> 01:25:37.940]  it, didn't you check? Sorry, baby. If you now properly filed your lien, it lands behind my lien,
[01:25:37.940 --> 01:25:45.700]  because I took my lien in good faith. See why that's important. Go get that record.
[01:25:45.700 --> 01:25:56.820]  Right. Okay. If you brought it from an individual, then I definitely need to see your deed of trust.
[01:25:58.100 --> 01:26:04.500]  The first thing you want to look at, read the covenants of the deed of trust.
[01:26:06.580 --> 01:26:12.180]  Did the lender breach any of the covenants? And if you brought it from an individual,
[01:26:12.180 --> 01:26:17.940]  you're likely not to have a Fannie Mae Freddie Mac uniform instrument.
[01:26:19.300 --> 01:26:26.580]  And those that aren't the uniform instruments tend to not reflect the restrictions that the
[01:26:26.580 --> 01:26:33.860]  Fannie Mae Freddie Mac documents do, like the Federal Ability Clause, or the requirement for
[01:26:33.860 --> 01:26:43.300]  notice clause, or the restriction on fees clause, or the authority to sell clause. You need to see
[01:26:43.300 --> 01:26:52.740]  if that authority to sell clause is in there, because if it's not, nobody else can come and
[01:26:52.740 --> 01:27:01.140]  try to express that deed of trust. Okay. You understand when you issued the deed of trust,
[01:27:01.140 --> 01:27:07.540]  and it was you who issued it by your affirmation of the document, your signature on the document.
[01:27:09.300 --> 01:27:17.940]  You granted privileges to the lender. Normally, if I had a claim against you,
[01:27:17.940 --> 01:27:25.620]  I would have to sue you in the court, get a claim against you, then petition the court for a judgment
[01:27:25.620 --> 01:27:32.500]  against your property, so I could liquidate your property to satisfy the legal claim.
[01:27:33.860 --> 01:27:41.220]  Well, under the deed of trust, you grant the lender a claim against the property.
[01:27:42.100 --> 01:27:47.700]  So they don't sue you directly, they sue the property. It's essentially an interim claim
[01:27:47.700 --> 01:27:54.980]  against the property. And also, they don't even have to sue because you also granted them
[01:27:54.980 --> 01:28:02.820]  a confessed judgment. So they already have the claim and the confessed judgment on default
[01:28:02.820 --> 01:28:09.620]  of the contract. Okay. So, but in order for them to exercise those privileges,
[01:28:11.220 --> 01:28:18.260]  they have to be in honor with the contract. If they have reached any covenant of the contract,
[01:28:18.260 --> 01:28:24.180]  they can't come and say, he defaulted on this contract, but they have already defaulted on
[01:28:24.180 --> 01:28:33.940]  the contract. That is the first place you have to go to. Can you stop that? Go ahead from selling?
[01:28:33.940 --> 01:28:38.340]  Can you stop them from selling? Like, if they're trying to sell the property now that I'm out,
[01:28:38.340 --> 01:28:42.660]  and they're trying to get it together, so put it out to sell, is there something I can put in to
[01:28:42.660 --> 01:28:50.100]  halt them from selling it and have the judge... It's called a less attendance. Less attendance
[01:28:50.100 --> 01:28:55.300]  gives public notice that there is a pending claim against the property.
[01:28:56.980 --> 01:29:03.380]  And a less attendance in the record will stop them from being able to sell the property. Well,
[01:29:03.380 --> 01:29:09.460]  actually, in your case, property's already been sold. Whoever purchased it may be trying to sell
[01:29:09.460 --> 01:29:17.700]  it again or they may not. So less attendance with the mandamus? No, the less attendance goes to the
[01:29:17.700 --> 01:29:25.780]  county recorder. Right. Just go online and do a search for Texas less attendance. You'll get a
[01:29:26.740 --> 01:29:33.380]  form to construct a less attendance. That gives public notice to anybody that there's a claim
[01:29:33.380 --> 01:29:38.420]  against the property, and that'll make you feel that nobody can get a lien alone against the
[01:29:38.420 --> 01:29:47.860]  property. Okay. And that'll make whoever purchased it really, really unhappy. Okay. First thing you
[01:29:47.860 --> 01:29:52.500]  need to do is get everything in the county record. Okay, this is Randy Culp, Deborah Stevens. You're
[01:29:52.500 --> 01:29:57.860]  on the radio. I'll call you at number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:33:36.820 --> 01:33:56.820]  Okay, we are back. Randy Pelton here with Steven through our radio. We're talking to Amin in Texas.
[01:33:59.380 --> 01:34:03.700]  Amin. Yes, yes. What's the next thing you need to do?
[01:34:03.700 --> 01:34:14.660]  I need to go to the county to pull a list of all the activity that's on the property, and also
[01:34:15.700 --> 01:34:21.940]  to file a list, pendants, about a pending action, and I guess...
[01:34:23.220 --> 01:34:27.060]  Okay, okay. Let me suggest, since you're not in the property,
[01:34:27.060 --> 01:34:33.060]  then there's no reason for a mandamus or a PRO. Temporarily strangled.
[01:34:35.060 --> 01:34:39.300]  Okay, is there something that could turn the... Because there was never an order,
[01:34:39.300 --> 01:34:41.300]  and they basically just did like gangsters now.
[01:34:41.300 --> 01:34:49.540]  Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's simple. There's no emergency that would require a mandamus
[01:34:49.540 --> 01:34:57.540]  or a temporary restraining order. Okay. What needs to be filed, since there already has been
[01:34:57.540 --> 01:35:06.340]  a foreclosure, there needs to be filed a trespass to tri-title. That's the exclusive remedy.
[01:35:06.340 --> 01:35:18.340]  So, you file a trespass to tri-title, and that one would nearly go to the foreclosure sale.
[01:35:19.620 --> 01:35:27.940]  It would go to negate the foreclosure. Once you get that negated, now you go after the harm that
[01:35:27.940 --> 01:35:37.540]  it caused. So, you really need to go through jurisdiction here, so you know how to make these
[01:35:37.540 --> 01:35:48.020]  claims. Here, you need to do this surgically. In the trespass to tri-title action, you ask for
[01:35:48.020 --> 01:35:58.420]  declaratory judgment. Do not ask for damages of any kind here. This asks for declaratory judgment
[01:35:58.420 --> 01:36:09.140]  only. You say to the judge, this document has been filed in the county record, and based on this
[01:36:09.140 --> 01:36:18.420]  evidence, this document is void and of no force and effect, because it fails to meet the requirements
[01:36:18.420 --> 01:36:25.620]  for filing in the record. That's all your argument is. You don't tell him what a bunch of no good
[01:36:25.620 --> 01:36:34.420]  rascals the bank was, the trustee, or the people who purchased it. You don't go to any of those
[01:36:34.420 --> 01:36:43.060]  issues. Only the sufficiency of the substitute trustee's deed, and the way you challenge that
[01:36:44.020 --> 01:36:54.820]  is you look at the deed of trust that's filed in the record. Then, you look at the assignment of
[01:36:54.820 --> 01:37:04.740]  the deed of trust. Who assigned it? When did they assign it? Did the person who assigned the deed of
[01:37:04.740 --> 01:37:15.380]  trust, was that person the same person named in the deed of trust? When I say person, I mean legal
[01:37:15.380 --> 01:37:26.900]  entity. If it wasn't the same person named in the deed of trust, then you challenge the assignment
[01:37:26.900 --> 01:37:38.420]  as void and of no force and effect, because under Texas Government Code 51901, paragraph C,
[01:37:38.420 --> 01:37:51.220]  C that defines that section defines what is considered a fraudulent filing in the county
[01:37:51.220 --> 01:38:04.260]  recorder's office. This is not fraud in general. This is fraudulent very specifically. If I accuse
[01:38:04.260 --> 01:38:13.700]  you of fraud, I have to address each of the elements of the fraud and state facts in support
[01:38:13.700 --> 01:38:24.980]  of each of the elements. This is different. This is a very specific filing under a specific
[01:38:24.980 --> 01:38:34.260]  definition. What that definition says is that any document filed in the county record which affects
[01:38:34.260 --> 01:38:44.420]  title must be filed by someone who has been assigned authority to file documents affecting the record.
[01:38:46.660 --> 01:38:53.700]  You have a warranty deed. By virtue of the warranty deed, you would have the authority
[01:38:53.700 --> 01:39:01.860]  to file a document in the record. You granted someone a deed of trust. By virtue of the deed
[01:39:01.860 --> 01:39:13.460]  of trust, they would be able to file a document. If you have an assignment that was not assigned
[01:39:13.460 --> 01:39:22.420]  by the person named in the deed of trust, who that is that person? According to the definition
[01:39:22.420 --> 01:39:28.740]  in the statute, if there's nothing in the statute saying this person has the power to do that,
[01:39:28.740 --> 01:39:38.980]  it is fraud by definition. The document itself is fraudulent. It's not an act of fraud
[01:39:40.260 --> 01:39:48.420]  as a cause of action. Is that making sense? Yes. You want to be really, really specific here.
[01:39:48.420 --> 01:39:54.740]  You don't say they're bad guys. You don't say they committed fraud per se, fraud by non-disclosure.
[01:39:54.740 --> 01:40:01.700]  Really, those are the fraud statutes. You say this document is fraudulent as a matter of law
[01:40:02.900 --> 01:40:10.420]  because the filer had no authority to file the document. That's how it's defined in 51901.
[01:40:10.420 --> 01:40:17.700]  You don't want to go for anything beyond the sufficiency of this document.
[01:40:18.820 --> 01:40:23.540]  So you look at the transfer of deed of trust. See, he did it.
[01:40:25.540 --> 01:40:36.340]  We look for evidence that the original lender sold the right to be paid the beneficial
[01:40:36.340 --> 01:40:48.660]  interest from the note. If you look at the deed of trust itself, does it authorize them
[01:40:49.380 --> 01:40:55.860]  to sell the deed of trust? For instance, an FHA loan. FHA loan has no covenant 20.
[01:40:57.060 --> 01:41:04.740]  It has no authorization to sell. So if they have sold it, that's ultra virates
[01:41:04.740 --> 01:41:12.100]  beyond the scope of the contract. That's a repudiation of the contract. That's a default.
[01:41:15.220 --> 01:41:21.300]  Okay. So basically, even at this point, since I'm out of the house,
[01:41:22.260 --> 01:41:28.580]  to get somebody to just to listen to the fact that the constable has been even having...
[01:41:29.220 --> 01:41:32.020]  No, no, no. Wrong place. Okay.
[01:41:32.020 --> 01:41:39.060]  Okay. We're going way back before that. We will get to the constables. The constables,
[01:41:39.060 --> 01:41:45.860]  you sue a civil tort. They're not going to have any protection here.
[01:41:47.620 --> 01:41:54.420]  We don't get to those yet. First, we go in and blow out the substitute trustees deed.
[01:41:55.700 --> 01:41:57.300]  Right. I got you. Okay.
[01:41:57.300 --> 01:42:01.700]  You don't want to make any other arguments. You don't want to bring anything else in
[01:42:02.420 --> 01:42:09.300]  other than the sufficiency of this document. And if you show that this is insufficient,
[01:42:09.300 --> 01:42:14.180]  the court's going to... The judge is going to say, well, they can... Okay, you screwed this up.
[01:42:14.180 --> 01:42:20.820]  So they have to read foreclose. And all their grounds that they had for foreclosure the first
[01:42:20.820 --> 01:42:25.780]  time, they'll still have the second time. So no problem. They could just do it right,
[01:42:25.780 --> 01:42:34.020]  correct our records. Essentially, you want to claim to the court that you're correcting
[01:42:34.020 --> 01:42:41.620]  the public record. The state has an interest in an accurate public record.
[01:42:42.980 --> 01:42:48.180]  Nobody's going to buy property in Texas if they can't get, be assured, a quiet title.
[01:42:48.900 --> 01:42:52.580]  A quiet title can only be determined by the public record.
[01:42:52.580 --> 01:43:01.620]  If the public record is inaccurate, then nobody in their right mind would buy property here.
[01:43:02.580 --> 01:43:08.020]  So the court has an interest in an accurate records. You're going to have part of that
[01:43:08.020 --> 01:43:13.060]  good old law community on your side. Okay.
[01:43:13.060 --> 01:43:20.900]  Because the county clerk has a interest in her records being accurate. And if you talk
[01:43:20.900 --> 01:43:28.820]  to county clerks, for them, that is a big deal. So all we do is this one document, one at a time.
[01:43:29.860 --> 01:43:35.380]  First, you go for the foreclosures. If you can't get that, back up, go to the Deed of Trust.
[01:43:36.740 --> 01:43:43.140]  Any document along the line to the foreclosure, if you can get any one of those blown out,
[01:43:43.860 --> 01:43:50.180]  the whole foreclosure is garbage. Once the foreclosure is garbage, all the harm is gone.
[01:43:50.180 --> 01:43:56.100]  All the harm is, harm is a matter of law. Hang on, Randy Kelk, Debbie Stevens,
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[01:46:25.140 --> 01:46:30.500]  I will never understand something I realize foolish.
[01:46:31.540 --> 01:46:38.500]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:46:40.020 --> 01:46:48.020]  There's always a room at the top of the hill. I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left too.
[01:46:48.020 --> 01:46:56.820]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelman, Jim Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to a bean in Texas.
[01:46:56.820 --> 01:47:02.260]  We're not getting any other calls tonight. It's kind of slow, so this is kind of my second favorite
[01:47:02.260 --> 01:47:09.940]  subject. So, we have time. We'll proceed. Now, here are some things you need to do.
[01:47:09.940 --> 01:47:17.860]  Once you have all of the documents from the county recorder's office, you need to look at
[01:47:17.860 --> 01:47:28.180]  every signature on any of the documents and craft a letter, relatively simple, that says I have this
[01:47:28.180 --> 01:47:36.980]  document that's filed in the public record on behalf of your company. And it contains an
[01:47:36.980 --> 01:47:46.580]  affirmation, a signature by a person who purports to have power of attorney to sign for your company.
[01:47:47.540 --> 01:47:58.500]  Please provide me with evidence of power of attorney. And then look at the, acknowledge the
[01:47:58.500 --> 01:48:10.820]  jurat, and send a letter to the notary public, acknowledge the document, and ask the notary public
[01:48:10.820 --> 01:48:18.820]  for evidence of all acknowledgments performed for a day before to a day after the date of your
[01:48:18.820 --> 01:48:26.660]  document. Better if you get someone other than yourself to send the request so that you can
[01:48:26.660 --> 01:48:31.940]  request so they can't look up your name and find which one you're looking for.
[01:48:34.100 --> 01:48:42.340]  Okay. So, you can go to the judge and say, your honor, this guy is a robo-signer while his name
[01:48:42.340 --> 01:48:50.420]  is splattered all over the internet. And the judges say so. That does not mean that this person does
[01:48:50.420 --> 01:48:58.580]  not have power of attorney to sign in this case. So, you say, your honor, this guy is a robo-signer
[01:48:58.580 --> 01:49:04.100]  while his name is splattered all over the internet. So, I sent a letter to this company and requested
[01:49:04.100 --> 01:49:09.620]  from them evidence of power of attorney as there is no evidence of power of attorney filed in the
[01:49:09.620 --> 01:49:19.540]  public record. And they failed to respond. Therefore, I have reason to believe, and I do
[01:49:19.540 --> 01:49:30.340]  believe, he's a robo-signer. You can't just go in and make the claim. The signing of the document
[01:49:30.340 --> 01:49:38.820]  is presumed to be valid until evidence is put before the court to overcome that presumption.
[01:49:38.820 --> 01:49:50.740]  Okay. Your letter requesting evidence of power of attorney unanswered is probably to face your
[01:49:50.740 --> 01:49:56.260]  evidence that they don't have. Now, that's something the judge can wrap his teeth around.
[01:49:58.260 --> 01:50:04.180]  And same thing with the notary. If you read 13.001 Texas Government Code,
[01:50:04.180 --> 01:50:14.260]  it says that a claim not properly acknowledged or proven, I'm sorry, not acknowledged or proven
[01:50:14.260 --> 01:50:22.660]  and properly filed is void as a tooth holder. Acknowledged is the first thing. And if the
[01:50:22.660 --> 01:50:30.020]  acknowledgement is not proper, it doesn't matter if it is proper, if they don't show that it is
[01:50:30.020 --> 01:50:40.020]  proper, that's probably to face your evidence that it is not proper. See, here's the deal in law.
[01:50:41.940 --> 01:50:47.380]  It doesn't matter whether or not you actually have a claim.
[01:50:49.540 --> 01:50:52.900]  It matters whether or not you can prove up that claim.
[01:50:52.900 --> 01:51:01.460]  The problem the banks have is they come to foreclose and in the last year 2000, they so
[01:51:01.460 --> 01:51:09.140]  screwed up the records that they may actually have agency standing and legal capacity to
[01:51:09.140 --> 01:51:17.540]  correct on this note. But if you challenge their agency standing and or legal capacity,
[01:51:17.540 --> 01:51:22.740]  let's see, standing and or legal capacity, then they must prove it up.
[01:51:24.580 --> 01:51:30.740]  If they can't prove that they have the standing they know they have, too bad.
[01:51:32.740 --> 01:51:41.700]  Okay. So, this is where we go. That's why I asked you earlier to tell me what you actually do.
[01:51:41.700 --> 01:51:48.660]  Okay. Yeah, I'm making a lot of sense. Let me explain what I mean by that.
[01:51:50.020 --> 01:51:59.460]  Somebody sent you a letter saying that I am a debt collector and I am collecting a debt for
[01:51:59.460 --> 01:52:06.340]  this company. You owe this company this amount of money and you need to pay me this much money or
[01:52:06.340 --> 01:52:12.740]  I'm going to do all these horrible things. What do you know? Well,
[01:52:16.420 --> 01:52:22.340]  if they did that, first of all, I don't know who they are at that point. I would have to
[01:52:22.340 --> 01:52:29.700]  challenge their standing in the matter. Use what you know. You know some guy sent you
[01:52:29.700 --> 01:52:37.220]  this letter and he put his name on it. That's all you know. You know that he made these demands,
[01:52:38.180 --> 01:52:43.540]  but is he actually collecting for this company he claims to collect for?
[01:52:44.900 --> 01:52:50.580]  Is he really an agent for them or is he just claiming to be? I know a professional criminal
[01:52:50.580 --> 01:52:56.820]  I used to know years ago and he made his basic living by sending bills to companies.
[01:52:56.820 --> 01:53:03.140]  He said, never send a real big one. Send a $25, $30 bill. This was like 30 years ago and they'll get
[01:53:03.140 --> 01:53:11.540]  this $25, $30 bill and they'll just sign it. They get honored on the day and nobody looks at them
[01:53:11.540 --> 01:53:17.380]  and says, what's this bill for? Did they actually do what they said they do? $25, $30. They just
[01:53:17.380 --> 01:53:27.940]  signed it. If he gets caught doing that, too bad. He told you, you owe him money. You paid him money.
[01:53:28.740 --> 01:53:34.660]  Your problem, not his problem. You don't know him yet. That's just some kind of pool in that scam.
[01:53:36.180 --> 01:53:40.180]  That's right. All you know is his signatures on that document.
[01:53:40.180 --> 01:53:50.500]  Look at all this. Somebody files a document in the record and in the filing by the signature,
[01:53:50.500 --> 01:53:58.740]  they claim authority to do what they did. Do you have anything that proves up their authority?
[01:53:58.740 --> 01:54:10.500]  If you don't demand that they prove it up, you have no duty to stipulate to anything. One of my
[01:54:10.500 --> 01:54:18.420]  favorite stories, one of the people we helped went to a bankruptcy hearing in Fort Worth and had claimed
[01:54:18.420 --> 01:54:24.500]  the property unsecured. The bank came in, their lawyers came in and they were yakking with the
[01:54:24.500 --> 01:54:29.620]  judge. They got a whole handful of documents. The client said, your honor, they have a whole
[01:54:29.620 --> 01:54:33.700]  bunch of documents. They're talking about them. They got to see those. The judge said, counsel,
[01:54:33.700 --> 01:54:39.300]  counsel, show it to her. He showed it to her. These are copies of all of the closing documents.
[01:54:41.380 --> 01:54:47.460]  He said, your honor, I've never seen these documents before. The judge said, well,
[01:54:48.580 --> 01:54:52.020]  is it that's your signature? Oh, no, your honor, I did not sign these documents.
[01:54:52.020 --> 01:54:57.140]  Is that your name? Yes, that's my name, but I didn't write it all. I've never seen these
[01:54:57.140 --> 01:55:05.540]  documents. She hadn't. They were photocopies. She'd never seen these photocopies. She did not
[01:55:05.540 --> 01:55:13.140]  know if that was an accurate photocopy. She didn't know what that was. No, she saw maybe it was
[01:55:13.140 --> 01:55:20.020]  probably a photocopy of her note and deed of trust and all these other documents, but she didn't know
[01:55:20.020 --> 01:55:27.780]  that. She does not have to stipulate to anything. He said, the judge ground on her for 10 minutes.
[01:55:29.140 --> 01:55:36.020]  Finally, she would not back up. Finally, he sat back and smiled and looked over at the lawyers
[01:55:36.020 --> 01:55:43.460]  on the other side. Well, counsels, it seems that she doesn't know anything about these documents.
[01:55:43.460 --> 01:55:50.820]  It appears you have to bring us the originals. They didn't show up because they didn't have the
[01:55:50.820 --> 01:56:04.100]  originals. All right. Okay. Don't ever stipulate to anything. That is much harder to do than it is
[01:56:04.100 --> 01:56:15.220]  to say. You really have to look at these documents. You have to look at everything you think you know
[01:56:15.220 --> 01:56:25.620]  about this situation and go back. We look at it and for everything you look at, ask yourself,
[01:56:25.620 --> 01:56:36.340]  what do I actually know as opposed to what I think or believe? Anything you think or believe,
[01:56:36.900 --> 01:56:45.220]  question. That will get you back to the basics. This is the one place the banks do not.
[01:56:45.220 --> 01:56:55.300]  Oh, that's probably the best information, advice I could give you on how to get your dictionary.
[01:56:56.260 --> 01:57:03.220]  That will help greatly. Then, go these documents out. Since it's already been foreclosed on,
[01:57:03.220 --> 01:57:11.620]  you have time to do your homework. You have time to get everything ready. If you want me to,
[01:57:11.620 --> 01:57:20.660]  you can send me an email at mandyatrublawradio.com and I do an extensive evaluation of the
[01:57:20.660 --> 01:57:25.460]  documentation. You can talk to us about that and we can put one of those together for you.
[01:57:27.460 --> 01:57:33.540]  We go through these documents in detail. We can do it better than you because you've got a dog in
[01:57:33.540 --> 01:57:41.780]  the hut. We don't have a dog in the hut, so it's easy for us to say, ah, this argument is so good
[01:57:41.780 --> 01:57:47.140]  that we can't make that one. We're going to make that kind of argument. You can't. Okay. Is there
[01:57:47.140 --> 01:57:53.540]  a chance to still get back in there before they sell it to a new homebuyer? Yeah. You don't care
[01:57:53.540 --> 01:58:01.140]  if they do. Did you sue the new homebuyer? Right. Okay. The homebuyer has a pet and they'll treat
[01:58:01.140 --> 01:58:11.220]  the new homebuyer as a pet. We know that happened before. So, join us guys. Sell it. Thank you.
[01:58:13.780 --> 01:58:21.060]  Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, Meade. Okay, we are out of time. This is Randy Kelso,
[01:58:21.060 --> 01:58:31.940]  Jim Stevens, Uglow Radio. Remember our campaign to get in some fun so we can upgrade this thing.
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