[00:00.000 --> 00:15.000] You're listening to The Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist updates, online at TheLibertyBeat.com. [00:15.000 --> 00:17.000] This is Justin Armand. [00:17.000 --> 00:20.000] And this is Jessica Armand. [00:20.000 --> 00:30.000] We're here with your Liberty Beat for Thursday, November 21, 2013. Gold opens today at $1,245. Silver at $19.88. [00:30.000 --> 00:33.000] And Bitcoin is trading at $684. [00:33.000 --> 00:41.000] Support for The Liberty Beat comes from Brave New Books, your local source for One World Way, Tangy Tangerine 2.0, [00:41.000 --> 00:50.000] and clearly filtered in Austin at 1904 Guadalupe Street and online at BraveNewBooks.com. [00:50.000 --> 01:00.000] And from Central Texas Gunworks, CHL courses, self-defense training and firearm sales online at CentralTexasGunworks.com. [01:00.000 --> 01:06.000] Family members and supporters of the alleged owner of the Silk Road Online Marketplace have launched a legal defense fund [01:06.000 --> 01:09.000] and website to collect donations on his behalf. [01:09.000 --> 01:15.000] Ross Albrecht, the alleged dead pirate Roberts, the online persona that owns and operates Silk Road, [01:15.000 --> 01:21.000] was arrested last month and is facing charges related to conspiracy to traffic drugs and money laundering, [01:21.000 --> 01:26.000] as well as charged in Maryland for a conspiracy to commit murder. [01:26.000 --> 01:35.000] Albrecht's supporters say his arrest should be a wake-up call for Internet and economic freedom. [01:35.000 --> 01:48.000] A 28-year-old veteran was arrested and brutalized in Frisco, Texas on Tuesday night for the crime of having a broken taillight. [01:48.000 --> 01:54.000] Reuters reports that the University of Nicosia will become the world's first to accept Bitcoin for tuition. [01:54.000 --> 01:58.000] The university, one of the major English language universities in the Mediterranean, [01:58.000 --> 02:05.000] will also begin a new Master of Science course focused on digital currency. [02:05.000 --> 02:10.000] Riding a bike on the sidewalk leads to a bloody beating for a San Francisco man. [02:10.000 --> 02:16.000] The New York Daily News reports that the 20-year-old man required hospitalized treatment after the altercation. [02:16.000 --> 02:20.000] His family members claim police beat him after he failed to move his bike from the sidewalk, [02:20.000 --> 02:24.000] ignoring the order only because he couldn't hear them through his headphones. [02:24.000 --> 02:30.000] Numerous residents in the Valencia Gardens public housing complex poured into the street to defend the man. [02:30.000 --> 02:33.000] The attack was caught on camera by a bystander. [02:33.000 --> 02:44.000] Support also comes from the Center for Natural Living, hosting their first monthly meeting Saturday, November 23rd, from 4.30 to 7.30 at Brave New Book. [02:44.000 --> 02:50.000] The meeting will include a screening of Episodes 1 through 3 of Sovereign Living, The Reality Show. [02:50.000 --> 02:53.000] There will be activities and snacks for the kids, so bring the family. [02:53.000 --> 02:58.000] More information at centerfornaturaliving.org. [03:24.000 --> 03:32.000] Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:32.000 --> 03:38.000] Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:38.000 --> 03:43.000] When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule. [03:43.000 --> 03:49.000] So why are you acting like a bloody fool? If you get hot then you must get cool. [03:49.000 --> 04:00.000] Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:00.000 --> 04:06.000] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one. You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father. [04:06.000 --> 04:11.000] You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister. You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me. [04:11.000 --> 04:33.000] Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:33.000 --> 04:49.000] Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:49.000 --> 05:06.000] Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [05:19.000 --> 05:41.000] Okay, howdy, howdy. This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday, the 21st day of November. [05:41.000 --> 05:50.000] And I want to start out the show today talking about fun and games in North Texas. [05:50.000 --> 06:00.000] I am, you know, I've been a long time trying to find a way to fix the system. [06:00.000 --> 06:14.000] And when you're a small fish in a big pond, it's difficult to find a way to create ripples when nobody wants to pay attention. [06:14.000 --> 06:30.000] So over the last 15, 20 years or so, I've been struggling with different ways of trying to bring some of the problems in the system to the flow. [06:30.000 --> 06:37.000] And in the process of doing all this, I learned some things. I learned a lot of things not to do. [06:37.000 --> 06:48.000] See, three dislocated ribs, two broken collarbones, a broken elbow and tooth knocked out. [06:48.000 --> 06:51.000] I think I dropped off. [06:51.000 --> 06:53.000] No, Randy, you're there. [06:53.000 --> 06:56.000] Oh, oh, I got it. I'm sorry. I'm looking at my screen. [06:56.000 --> 06:59.000] No, you're fine. Keep going. Keep going. [06:59.000 --> 07:02.000] Skype keeps doing this noise like I dropped off. [07:02.000 --> 07:04.000] Okay, no, you're good to go. [07:04.000 --> 07:22.000] Anyway, I learned a lot of things not to do and I've been trying to develop a way to explain to people how to handle themselves when they deal with these public officials so that they will have an effect. [07:22.000 --> 07:25.000] And I am working in Tarrant County right now. [07:25.000 --> 07:41.000] And I'm going to say this on the air. And there's a likelihood that either some of the bailiffs or some of the justices of the peace or prosecutors in Tarrant County will be listening. [07:41.000 --> 07:46.000] And if they're listening, they'll find out what my strategy is. [07:46.000 --> 08:06.000] And that's okay, because if you have a good strategy, it doesn't matter. Tuesdays a week ago, I went to a justice of the peace precinct seven, a JP Hayes. [08:06.000 --> 08:11.000] And JP Hayes had himself an attitude. [08:11.000 --> 08:18.000] It started out, I was in his courtroom and I couldn't hear what was going on. [08:18.000 --> 08:39.000] So I stood up in the courtroom and spoke and got the judge's attention and interrupt a hearing he was having and told him that I had a hearing disability and asked him if he had accommodation for the hearing impaired. [08:39.000 --> 08:42.000] And he instructed me that he did not. [08:42.000 --> 08:50.000] I said, Well, your honor, you have this sound system here. Will you turn it up? No, Mr. Kelly, I will not. [08:50.000 --> 08:53.000] Then will you speak up? [08:53.000 --> 08:55.000] And he did. [08:55.000 --> 09:04.000] He spoke up and told me that I better sit down and be quiet or he'll have me removed from the courtroom. [09:04.000 --> 09:15.000] I never ask a public official to do something I actually want them to do. [09:15.000 --> 09:22.000] And I talked to his bailiff later and got an opportunity to explain that to him. I'll get to that in a minute. [09:22.000 --> 09:35.000] So anybody out there listening? What shot did that give me at the justice of the peace? [09:35.000 --> 09:49.000] The Americans with Disabilities Act requires that governmental agencies make accommodation for Americans with disabilities. [09:49.000 --> 10:00.000] Now, I explained to the judge that I was just in Mexico and I drank a little too much of that tequila and lost my hearing aid. [10:00.000 --> 10:06.000] He was not understanding or forgiving. [10:06.000 --> 10:15.000] So he failed to provide accommodation for the hearing impaired when he could easily have done so. [10:15.000 --> 10:35.000] And in order to prevent me from pursuing accommodation, as was my statutory right, he threatened me with interrupting my access to a public building. [10:35.000 --> 10:51.000] Now that's an act of misfeasance in office, not the threat, but the failure to turn up the sound system or to speak up, which would be a minor act of accommodation. [10:51.000 --> 10:56.000] He failed to perform a duty he was required to perform. [10:56.000 --> 11:11.000] And under 39.03 Texas Penal Code, that is considered a class A misdemeanor in the state of Texas for which he can get up to a year in jail. [11:11.000 --> 11:23.000] Our legislature considered that a serious offense, but the judge was pretty confident that he could do whatever he wanted to. [11:23.000 --> 11:30.000] I think he forgot. He thought that was his courtroom. [11:30.000 --> 11:39.000] He forgot that it was my courtroom and I very generously allowed him to administer in accordance with my rules. [11:39.000 --> 11:47.000] He forgot that he was the public servant and I was the public master. [11:47.000 --> 11:53.000] So I sat down, then a hearing came up that I was interested, that I had an interest in. [11:53.000 --> 11:57.000] And I came up and he asked who I was and I told him that I was Randall Kelton. [11:57.000 --> 12:05.000] What business do you have with this hearing? I told him I have a warranted deed and a quick claim deed to the property that question filed in the public record. [12:05.000 --> 12:09.000] Therefore, I have standing in champerty before this court. [12:09.000 --> 12:18.000] And his eyes kind of went out of focus and I have no doubt that he had no clue what champerty was. [12:18.000 --> 12:22.000] But not knowing what it was, he didn't argue with me. [12:22.000 --> 12:29.000] And then I told him that I had a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction before the court. [12:29.000 --> 12:40.000] And this court lacked jurisdiction as there was an action filed in the district court in trespass to tri-title, [12:40.000 --> 12:48.000] which put the title in question and thereby denied the court of subject matter jurisdiction. [12:48.000 --> 12:57.000] Well, we had filed that motion while the judge was already sitting on the bench having hearings. [12:57.000 --> 13:02.000] And when it got to our case, he did not pick up the motion and read it. [13:02.000 --> 13:05.000] He didn't even look at his records. [13:05.000 --> 13:18.000] He simply said, Mr. Kelton, just because you filed a trespass to tri-title suit does not necessarily mean that I lack subject matter jurisdiction. [13:18.000 --> 13:23.000] Therefore, your motion is denied. [13:23.000 --> 13:30.000] And he did that without so much as reading the pleading. [13:30.000 --> 13:44.000] Once subject matter jurisdiction is challenged, the court loses subject matter jurisdiction as a matter of law [13:44.000 --> 13:53.000] and does not regain subject matter jurisdiction until such time as subject matter jurisdiction is proven. [13:53.000 --> 14:00.000] The case law said once subject matter jurisdiction is challenged, it may not be presumed. [14:00.000 --> 14:01.000] It must be proven. [14:01.000 --> 14:05.000] Well, the lawyer sitting next to me never opened him out. [14:05.000 --> 14:13.000] She hadn't had time to read the challenge subject matter jurisdiction either because I just handed her a copy. [14:13.000 --> 14:25.000] But their problem is that a challenge subject matter jurisdiction may be filed at any time, so they couldn't whine about it being the last minute. [14:25.000 --> 14:31.000] The judge didn't read it, denied it, sued Sponte, out of hand. [14:31.000 --> 14:44.000] That goes to sedition, where anyone acts to prevent the operation or execution of a law. [14:44.000 --> 14:52.000] And there was law that required that the judge, when presented with a pleading, [14:52.000 --> 15:00.000] determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence, then apply the law to the facts that comes to him. [15:00.000 --> 15:05.000] The only way he could determine the facts was to read the pleading. [15:05.000 --> 15:10.000] They were in there, and so was the law. [15:10.000 --> 15:21.000] By not reading the pleading, he denied me in my due process right to a fair and honest jurist in the first instance, [15:21.000 --> 15:28.000] which is also a Class A misdemeanor violation of 39.03 P.M. Code. [15:28.000 --> 15:34.000] And we're not going to go to him threatening to have me removed from the courtroom. [15:34.000 --> 15:39.000] That would go to a terroristic threat, but we're not even going to bother with that one. [15:39.000 --> 15:44.000] These two were enough. As soon as he said that, I closed my folder, said, [15:44.000 --> 15:49.000] we are done here, stood up and walked out of the courtroom. [15:49.000 --> 15:55.000] As I got to the bar, I pointed to the bait of you. I need you outside. [15:55.000 --> 16:02.000] I walked, go through the bar, back to the door, turned around, and they're just standing there, two bailiffs, not knowing what to do. [16:02.000 --> 16:07.000] I turned around and said, well, turned and walked out. [16:07.000 --> 16:13.000] Well, the bailiffs came out and I tried to file criminal charges with bailiffs. [16:13.000 --> 16:18.000] And as usual, he wouldn't take my criminal charges. [16:18.000 --> 16:25.000] I never ask a public official to do anything I actually want them to do. [16:25.000 --> 16:31.000] By refusing to take my criminal complaint, now I got a claim against the bailiff. [16:31.000 --> 16:36.000] I get to file criminal charges against the bailiff for protecting the judge. [16:36.000 --> 16:40.000] Now that he's going to expect the judge to protect him, [16:40.000 --> 16:45.000] is he ever going to get a big surprise when he finds that the judge will very quickly [16:45.000 --> 16:49.000] throw him to the wolves to protect himself? [16:49.000 --> 16:52.000] Hang on, Randy Kelton, W. Stevens, Brew of La Radio. [16:52.000 --> 16:57.000] Our caller number, 512-646-1984, deliverance in Oregon. [16:57.000 --> 17:00.000] I see you there. 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[19:05.000 --> 19:09.000] LogosRadioNetwork.com [19:09.000 --> 19:37.000] Music [19:37.000 --> 19:41.000] Okay, we are back. [19:41.000 --> 19:44.000] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. [19:44.000 --> 19:49.000] And we're talking about how to take these guys on. [19:49.000 --> 20:00.000] How to put them in a position to where when they follow accepted policy, [20:00.000 --> 20:07.000] they wind up with guys like me trying to get them arrested. [20:07.000 --> 20:10.000] And that kind of confuses them. [20:10.000 --> 20:13.000] In this case, my real target wasn't the judge. [20:13.000 --> 20:15.000] My real target was the bailiff. [20:15.000 --> 20:21.000] Because the bailiff feels like he works for the judge and he does no such thing. [20:21.000 --> 20:27.000] The bailiff is there to keep the peace in the courtroom and it makes no difference who breaches it. [20:27.000 --> 20:36.000] So the judge breached the peace by committing two acts of official oppression, [20:36.000 --> 20:39.000] which were both class A misdemeanors in the state of Texas. [20:39.000 --> 20:45.000] And since these acts had occurred in his sight and in his presence, [20:45.000 --> 20:51.000] he had a statutory right and a duty to drag that judge down off the bench, [20:51.000 --> 20:55.000] cuff him, and drag him over to the jailhouse. [20:55.000 --> 21:00.000] But he refused to do that because he was the judge. [21:00.000 --> 21:06.000] And when he refused to arrest the judge, he told me that if I didn't have any further business, [21:06.000 --> 21:10.000] I was going to have to leave, in the courthouse, that I was going to have to leave the building. [21:10.000 --> 21:16.000] Well, here I had an officer. [21:16.000 --> 21:22.000] I gave him about six-five, six-six, good three, three-fifty. [21:22.000 --> 21:31.000] He's a big old boy who was rather red in the face and a bit agitated, [21:31.000 --> 21:38.000] ordering me to leave the courthouse if I had no further business there. [21:38.000 --> 21:45.000] So I asked him, if I don't have any business in the courthouse, I'm going to have to leave? [21:45.000 --> 21:49.000] He said, yes, you are. [21:49.000 --> 21:59.000] Well, 22.07 Texas Penal Code says, [21:59.000 --> 22:05.000] if you threaten someone for the purpose of denying them access to a public building [22:05.000 --> 22:15.000] or with interrupting their access to a public building, that is a terroristic threat. [22:15.000 --> 22:25.000] And if you do so while prominently displaying a deadly weapon, that aggravates the accusation. [22:25.000 --> 22:37.000] So he very clearly was exhibiting a deadly weapon in his holster that I had every reason to believe was loaded. [22:37.000 --> 22:41.000] Generally, I ask them if they are, but in this case, I didn't. [22:41.000 --> 22:47.000] Things were getting a little too heated too fast that I didn't want to push him over the edge. [22:47.000 --> 22:52.000] So we have Chris Hall on the line from Zombie Killers. [22:52.000 --> 22:55.000] You deal with weapons. [22:55.000 --> 23:04.000] If I approached you when you were not armed and I was prominently displaying a deadly weapon, [23:04.000 --> 23:17.000] red faced, angry, and ordered you to do something, would you consider that I had an intent to use that deadly weapon, [23:17.000 --> 23:25.000] which I was prominently displaying to enforce the intent, to enforce my personal intent? [23:25.000 --> 23:26.000] Absolutely. [23:26.000 --> 23:33.000] And as you can feel in Kerry Holder, when you can see my weapon, I'm required to de-escalate the situation. [23:33.000 --> 23:41.000] So, yeah, I would definitely try my best to make sure that everything was very calm, [23:41.000 --> 23:49.000] collected, and I would back to a better position to, you know, if I had a complaint, [23:49.000 --> 23:57.000] then I would try different ways because obviously standing there and arguing with somebody who's armed is usually a very bad idea. [23:57.000 --> 24:09.000] Exactly, especially when the person who's armed is getting rather excited and what the term the police use is agitated. [24:09.000 --> 24:16.000] I considered that at that point I was being threatened with the potential use of that deadly weapon. [24:16.000 --> 24:25.000] Now, normally I would ask him if the pistol was loaded and then I would ask him if he was going to pull that pistol on me. [24:25.000 --> 24:32.000] And they'll always say, well, if I have to, and then I get them to actually threaten me with it. [24:32.000 --> 24:36.000] But this guy was getting a little too excited, a little too fast. [24:36.000 --> 24:42.000] So I took that to be a bad strategy and didn't push the edge of that envelope. [24:42.000 --> 24:49.000] But when I asked him, so if I don't have any business in the building, I'm going to have to leave, he said, yes, I needed to confirm. [24:49.000 --> 24:53.000] And then I said, well, that's a good thing I have for the business in the building. [24:53.000 --> 24:58.000] And then he kind of, he kind of deescalated and came back down. [24:58.000 --> 25:11.000] Well, then the next Monday, I went to a political rally in Fort Worth and it was supposed to be a tea party meeting, [25:11.000 --> 25:13.000] but it turned out just to be a political rally. [25:13.000 --> 25:20.000] All the guys running for lieutenant governor were there and it was just filled with politicians. [25:20.000 --> 25:32.000] I was not very comfortable in the place, but I did notice that the security guard at the door was a rather large person. [25:32.000 --> 25:37.000] He was the bailiff from the JP court. [25:37.000 --> 25:46.000] And when I walked up to him and said, well, hello, officer Deering, he was taken aback somewhat. [25:46.000 --> 25:50.000] But I did get an opportunity to talk to him for a while. [25:50.000 --> 26:01.000] And as with most of these police officers, if you get them outside of a confrontation, they tend to be for the most part pleasant individuals. [26:01.000 --> 26:06.000] And I got an opportunity to explain to him what my strategy was. [26:06.000 --> 26:10.000] And I asked him about that day the other day, wasn't that a hoot? [26:10.000 --> 26:15.000] He didn't think of this news as funny as I did, but I got an opportunity to explain to him that [26:15.000 --> 26:20.000] I never ask a public official to do something that I really want them to do. [26:20.000 --> 26:22.000] And he was kind of confused by that. [26:22.000 --> 26:30.000] And I said, well, if I'm going to get a public official to pay attention to me, I have to give him a reason to. [26:30.000 --> 26:32.000] For the most part, they don't. [26:32.000 --> 26:44.000] So I never ask a public official to do something that the law does not specifically require them to do. [26:44.000 --> 26:54.000] Therefore, when they fail to do what I asked them to do, they commit a crime for which I can dump them real good for. [26:54.000 --> 27:03.000] And he clearly recognized what I was talking about from our interaction. [27:03.000 --> 27:05.000] He just shook his head. [27:05.000 --> 27:09.000] He couldn't believe that this is what was going on. [27:09.000 --> 27:14.000] And I told him all of that so that he would go back and tell the JP. [27:14.000 --> 27:24.000] So that JP would know full well that everything I was doing was for the purpose of setting them up. [27:24.000 --> 27:26.000] And I explained. [27:26.000 --> 27:27.000] Go ahead. [27:27.000 --> 27:32.000] Let me ask you, do bailiffs get a separate training course to be a bailiff? [27:32.000 --> 27:39.000] Because, I mean, I'm going to guess that most of the court procedure is not something that they learn with their justice degree. [27:39.000 --> 27:40.000] Right. [27:40.000 --> 27:46.000] And that is a very good question, one I had never thought to ask, but I certainly will. [27:46.000 --> 27:54.000] Actually, I doubt that they do have any kind of training in that regard. [27:54.000 --> 28:00.000] So he probably had no clue as to what was going on. [28:00.000 --> 28:07.000] The problem he has is, under screws VUS, he has a duty to know. [28:07.000 --> 28:09.000] Right. [28:09.000 --> 28:14.000] I realize he's not a lawyer, but still he has a problem. [28:14.000 --> 28:18.000] Screws VUS, 1945 case, still good law. [28:18.000 --> 28:23.000] Sheriff, two deputies in a bar in Mississippi. [28:23.000 --> 28:25.000] They're upset at this black guy. [28:25.000 --> 28:26.000] They're going to go arrest him. [28:26.000 --> 28:27.000] They've been drinking. [28:27.000 --> 28:31.000] The bartender tries to talk them out of it. They won't be dissuaded. [28:31.000 --> 28:36.000] They arrest the guy and wind up beating him to death on the courthouse steps. [28:36.000 --> 28:37.000] They are prosecuted. [28:37.000 --> 28:39.000] They're sued in the state. [28:39.000 --> 28:41.000] And then they're sued in the Fed. [28:41.000 --> 28:47.000] When they got sued in the Fed, they complained to the Fed that they did not have adequate notice. [28:47.000 --> 29:02.000] And the Fed said that if a public official, acting on the color of his authority, if he continually operates in a way that has been adjudicated improper, he knows full well what he does. [29:02.000 --> 29:16.000] If a public official violates the ruling of this court, he may not, and he be saying, he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does. [29:16.000 --> 29:34.000] The courts, by that ruling, holds public officials responsible not only for the law concerning the performance of their duties, but also all of the case law issued by the court explaining that law. [29:34.000 --> 29:38.000] So they can't come before the court and say, I was ignorant. [29:38.000 --> 29:41.000] I could claim ignorance before they could. [29:41.000 --> 29:44.000] Public officials are held to a much higher standard. [29:44.000 --> 29:53.000] Hang on, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue de Blanc radio, our calling number, 512-646-1984, deliverance. [29:53.000 --> 29:55.000] Angie, I see you there. [29:55.000 --> 29:58.000] I'll finish this up on the other side, and we'll go to calls. [29:58.000 --> 30:01.000] We'll be right back. [30:01.000 --> 30:04.000] Finally, some nuclear news to cheer. [30:04.000 --> 30:08.000] The most powerful weapon in our atomic arsenal has been dismantled. [30:08.000 --> 30:15.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll tell you about the last days of a frightening bomb they called the B-53 in a moment. [30:15.000 --> 30:17.000] Privacy is under attack. [30:17.000 --> 30:20.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [30:20.000 --> 30:25.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too. [30:25.000 --> 30:30.000] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself. [30:30.000 --> 30:33.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging onto. [30:33.000 --> 30:41.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by Startpage.com, the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [30:41.000 --> 30:44.000] Start over with Startpage. [30:44.000 --> 30:47.000] Here's news that could make even a Cold Warrior smile. [30:47.000 --> 30:56.000] The aging B-53, the last of our nation's most powerful nuclear bombs, has been quietly taken apart at a plant near Amarillo, Texas. [30:56.000 --> 31:05.000] Dating way back to 1962, the Cold War and the Cuban Missile Crisis, the B-53 was the size of a minivan and weighed 10,000 pounds. [31:05.000 --> 31:13.000] This ancient nuke was 600 times more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima, which killed at least 140,000 people. [31:13.000 --> 31:19.000] Now the biggest nuke we've got is the B-83, a similar killer now pushing 30 years old. [31:19.000 --> 31:22.000] Will it take us half a century to retire that one? [31:22.000 --> 31:24.000] Let's hope not. [31:24.000 --> 31:30.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [31:30.000 --> 31:36.000] This is Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that fell on the afternoon of September 11. [31:36.000 --> 31:43.000] The government says that fire brought it down. However, 1,500 architects and engineers concluded it was a controlled demolition. [31:43.000 --> 31:46.000] Over 6,000 of my fellow service members have given their lives. [31:46.000 --> 31:48.000] Thousands of my fellow first responders are dying. [31:48.000 --> 31:50.000] I'm not a conspiracy theorist. [31:50.000 --> 31:51.000] I'm a structural engineer. [31:51.000 --> 31:52.000] I'm a New York City correction officer. [31:52.000 --> 31:53.000] I'm an Air Force pilot. [31:53.000 --> 31:55.000] I'm a father who lost his son. [31:55.000 --> 31:57.000] We're Americans, and we deserve the truth. [31:57.000 --> 32:01.000] Go to RememberBuilding7.org today. [32:01.000 --> 32:05.000] Rule of Law Radio is proud to offer the Rule of Law traffic seminar. [32:05.000 --> 32:12.000] In today's America, we live in an us-against-them society, and if we the people are ever going to have a free society, then we're going to have to stand and defend our own rights. [32:12.000 --> 32:19.000] Among those rights are the right to travel freely from place to place, the right to act in our own private capacity, and most importantly, the right to due process of law. [32:19.000 --> 32:25.000] Traffic courts afford us the least expensive opportunity to learn how to enforce and preserve our rights through due process. [32:25.000 --> 32:35.000] Former Sheriff's Deputy Eddie Craig, in conjunction with Rule of Law Radio, has put together the most comprehensive teaching tool available that will help you understand what due process is and how to hold courts to the rule of law. [32:35.000 --> 32:40.000] You can get your own copy of this invaluable material by going to ruleoflawradio.com and ordering your copy today. [32:40.000 --> 32:47.000] By ordering now, you'll receive a copy of Eddie's book, The Texas Transportation Code, The Law Versus the Lie, video and audio of the original 2009 seminar, [32:47.000 --> 32:50.000] hundreds of research documents, and other useful resource material. [32:50.000 --> 32:54.000] Learn how to fight for your rights with the help of this material from ruleoflawradio.com. [32:54.000 --> 33:17.000] Order your copy today and together we can have free society we all want and deserve. [33:24.000 --> 33:46.000] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens here with Chris Hall. [33:46.000 --> 34:00.000] And on the break, Chris had a question you wanted to ask, so ask him to hold it for the show, the first time he stomp the chomp, maybe he'll stomp the chomp again. [34:00.000 --> 34:02.000] You had a question, Chris? [34:02.000 --> 34:11.000] Yeah, actually what I was going to ask is, I've had a judge tell me before that ignorance of the law is no excuse. [34:11.000 --> 34:22.000] So when you run into an officer that doesn't know the law, I know obviously you have certain things that you can do, [34:22.000 --> 34:34.000] but don't they have the higher standard that they don't know what the law is and can't a normal civilian actually claim the ignorance of the law? [34:34.000 --> 35:00.000] Well, we cannot, the law says that ignorance of the law is not a defense, but reasonable consideration has been granted in areas that are more sophisticated. [35:00.000 --> 35:11.000] Generally, they won't expect an ordinary citizen to understand the intricacies of law concerning the use of a deadly weapon by a public official, [35:11.000 --> 35:17.000] because they're not public officials and they don't use deadly weapons. [35:17.000 --> 35:26.000] But when it's a public official, the courts were clear that they are held to a much higher standard. [35:26.000 --> 35:42.000] They didn't say that if a public official violates a law, they said if a public official violates a ruling of this court, [35:42.000 --> 35:57.000] and he be saying, he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does. And it's a rather large quote, but in the quote, it specifically states where it says that [35:57.000 --> 36:02.000] a citizen may not claim ignorance of the law as a defense to prosecution. [36:02.000 --> 36:15.000] A public official acting on the color of his official capacity is held to a much higher standard. And then it goes on to say when an official acts in a way [36:15.000 --> 36:26.000] that has been consistently ruled by this court to be improper, that he may not, that when he is subjected to punishment for that, [36:26.000 --> 36:37.000] I'm sorry, when he acts in a way that's been ruled improper by this court, he violates due process in the most basic sense. [36:37.000 --> 36:46.000] And when he is punished for that, he's not punished for some unknowable something. [36:46.000 --> 36:56.000] Then it says when a public official violates a ruling of this court, and he be saying he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does. [36:56.000 --> 37:02.000] When I read that the first time, I thought, holy mackerel. [37:02.000 --> 37:10.000] Not only do they have to know the law, they have to know all the case law concerning the law that they have a duty to enforce. [37:10.000 --> 37:20.000] I once had a sergeant on the Department of Public Safety tell me when he asked me if I was a lawyer, and I said, do I have to be? [37:20.000 --> 37:26.000] Because I'd filed a complaint with his, with the captain, not his captain, but another captain. [37:26.000 --> 37:31.000] So that the other captain would send it to his captain and embarrass his. [37:31.000 --> 37:37.000] And then he was sent out to answer the complaint. He asked me if I was a lawyer, and I said, do I have to be? [37:37.000 --> 37:46.000] He said, well, since you're not an attorney, I don't consider my officers sufficiently sophisticated in legal matters, [37:46.000 --> 37:52.000] so as to make it profitable for them to attempt to read and understand everything in the penal code. [37:52.000 --> 37:59.000] And since you're not a lawyer, I don't consider you sophisticated enough either. [37:59.000 --> 38:04.000] He really said that to me. I said, say what? [38:04.000 --> 38:11.000] You telling me your officers are too darn stupid to read the penal code, and you think I am too? [38:11.000 --> 38:18.000] Now, he had came out to answer my complaint, and all he knows how to do is huff and puff and play Mr. Macho. [38:18.000 --> 38:25.000] Well, it's not working for him. So he, when I said that to him, he said, well, I don't have to sit here and take this. [38:25.000 --> 38:31.000] That's right, Sarge. There's the door. There's no anchor when you're behind. [38:31.000 --> 38:38.000] Well, he didn't leave because he was there to handle my complaint, and he wasn't doing a very good job of it. [38:38.000 --> 38:44.000] I wound up calling Colonel Adams, who was the director of the Department of Public Safety at the time. [38:44.000 --> 38:53.000] I got Leo Gossett, who was the number two guy at the time, and Leo Gossett was always real gross sounding. [38:53.000 --> 38:55.000] Leo Gossett, may I help you? [38:55.000 --> 39:00.000] I said, Leo Gossett, number two man in the DPS? [39:00.000 --> 39:05.000] May I help you? No, you can't help me. You get me the Colonel like I asked for. [39:05.000 --> 39:08.000] I don't want to talk to any subordinates. [39:08.000 --> 39:14.000] You could hear him breathing in the phone. He was not happy. [39:14.000 --> 39:22.000] One moment. Well, I got the Colonel, and the Colonel was a pro. He really knew how to handle people. [39:22.000 --> 39:26.000] I said, hello, Colonel Adams. My name is Randall Keltman. [39:26.000 --> 39:31.000] What do you mean I'm too damn stupid to read the penal code? [39:31.000 --> 39:33.000] Who is this? Randall Keltman. [39:33.000 --> 39:41.000] What do you mean sending Sergeant Rankin out to tell me that your officer is too darn stupid to read the penal code, and he thinks I am too? [39:41.000 --> 39:47.000] It took him 20 minutes to get the story out of me while I'm grinding on him. [39:47.000 --> 39:55.000] When I got done with him, if you've better ever been in the military, you know what happened to Sergeant Rankin. [39:55.000 --> 40:03.000] He retired as a sergeant, and I hope that I'm the reason. [40:03.000 --> 40:12.000] These are the things we could do. You and I, we are the sovereigns, not the sovereigns exactly. [40:12.000 --> 40:15.000] We can't really say that because sovereigns are the ones that make the rules. [40:15.000 --> 40:21.000] We're the masters. They're the servants. We're the masters. [40:21.000 --> 40:33.000] If you're the CEO of a company, you come down and you see that the guy in the mail room is goofing off like the head of Murphy Motor Freight. [40:33.000 --> 40:38.000] One of his trucks pulled over on the side of the highway. There used to be one of my clients. [40:38.000 --> 40:46.000] He pulled up behind the truck, got out, walked up to the door, and he said, is there anything wrong here? Do you need some help? [40:46.000 --> 40:54.000] He said, no, I'm just screwing the dog. And Mr. Murphy said, well, that's my dog you're screwing. [40:54.000 --> 41:03.000] Get this truck back to my terminal. But he never said a word to the driver after that. [41:03.000 --> 41:14.000] He went to the CEO of the company and told the CEO what happened and instructed him to ensure that this didn't happen again. [41:14.000 --> 41:20.000] Now, what do you think the CEO thought? He was not happy. [41:20.000 --> 41:27.000] So he went to the director of transportation and it just kind of trickles downhill. [41:27.000 --> 41:38.000] And apparently, Mr. Murphy gave strict orders that the truck driver was not to be fired. [41:38.000 --> 41:46.000] That they didn't get to fire his drivers because they didn't manage them correctly. [41:46.000 --> 41:53.000] See, you and I, we're like Mr. Murphy. [41:53.000 --> 42:01.000] This is when I went into that court. That was not the judge's court. That was my court. [42:01.000 --> 42:09.000] And I authorized him to administer that court in accordance with my law. [42:09.000 --> 42:15.000] And if he doesn't do that, I'm not going to argue with him about it. [42:15.000 --> 42:21.000] I'm going to go to someone who has the duty to oversee him. And the bailiff was the one. [42:21.000 --> 42:29.000] And when the bailiff didn't do what he was supposed to do, now I take him to the district attorney. [42:29.000 --> 42:39.000] Or to another magistrate. I'll take him to somebody who has a duty to take corrective action under law. [42:39.000 --> 42:42.000] And I hope they don't do it. [42:42.000 --> 42:51.000] Because unlike Mr. Murphy, who could start at the top and work his way down, I have to start at the bottom and work my way up. [42:51.000 --> 42:59.000] So I keep asking them to do things I don't want them to do so that I can go to the next level. [42:59.000 --> 43:09.000] And ask that level to do something about the guy at this lower level, hoping he won't do anything so I can go after him. [43:09.000 --> 43:14.000] I told him clearly that I wasn't after any of you guys. [43:14.000 --> 43:25.000] That I will be setting up every justice of the peace in the county. I will give every one of them opportunity to act in properly. [43:25.000 --> 43:28.000] Then I'm going to take them all to the attorney general. [43:28.000 --> 43:38.000] You guys are going to get me to the attorney general because one of the JP's father works with the district attorney's office and that disqualifies the district attorney. [43:38.000 --> 43:45.000] I get to take you all to the attorney general and when he doesn't act, I get to take him to the chief justice of the supreme. [43:45.000 --> 43:50.000] Now they all know I'm doing this, what are they going to do now? [43:50.000 --> 44:00.000] Hang on, Randy Kelton, Denver students, Rue LeBlanc Radio, Deliverance Angie Carey, I'm sorry to hold you up, but I'll finish this up quickly over there. [44:00.000 --> 44:12.000] Hello, my name is Stuart Smith from naturespureorganics.com and I would like to invite you to come buy our store at 1904 Guadalupe Street Sweet D here in Austin, Texas, [44:12.000 --> 44:18.000] buying Brave New Books and J-Paint to see all our fantastic health and wellness products with your very own eyes. 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[46:26.000 --> 46:35.000] Such a sentimental soldier, a warrior of love, scowling and keeping his heat, all he's thinking is a misunderstanding. [46:35.000 --> 46:44.000] Somebody call the police, we're watching the spotlight. [46:44.000 --> 46:48.000] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Debra Stephens here with Chris Hall, Rule of Law Radio. [46:48.000 --> 46:58.000] And on the break we were talking about the rules and regulations these guys pass and they expect you to follow them. [46:58.000 --> 47:06.000] You know, like when I was in the court, I had went to look at some records and the bailiff come over and said, you don't have to shut that phone off. [47:06.000 --> 47:14.000] I'm not going to do any such thing. And the clerk said, well, sir, we have a policy that all electronic devices must be turned off. [47:14.000 --> 47:26.000] I said, well, you got a policy. I got a constitution, a statute and a Supreme Court case that says I can keep it on so you can use that rule for toilet paper. [47:26.000 --> 47:34.000] And Clintus, you had an issue with that yourself concerning carrying weapons. Will you explain that? [47:34.000 --> 47:40.000] Well, we were handed a – I worked for another company at the time and we were handed a new handbook. [47:40.000 --> 47:45.000] And in the handbook it said you couldn't have your firearm in your vehicle. [47:45.000 --> 47:49.000] Even if you had a concealed carry permit, you couldn't carry it while you were working for the company. [47:49.000 --> 47:57.000] If they believed that you violated any of these, they could search your vehicle. And when they brought out the handbook, [47:57.000 --> 48:03.000] they actually brought the attorney and his pair of legals in there to talk to us. [48:03.000 --> 48:07.000] And I said, wait, wait, wait. Do I need to have legal counsel to discuss this? [48:07.000 --> 48:11.000] Because I didn't – you know, I honestly thought I had just been jumped. [48:11.000 --> 48:22.000] And I started arguing with the guy about the rules of having firearms in the car, in your vehicle, because your car is your private property and it is your home. [48:22.000 --> 48:33.000] But he says, well, it's like if I'm in court and I have my phone and my phone goes off and the judge takes my phone, the judge rules that court. [48:33.000 --> 48:41.000] And I laughed at him and I said, well, so basically what you're saying is if I had pajamas on, I could rub and you'd be okay with it. [48:41.000 --> 48:43.000] And that was pretty much the end of the conversation. [48:43.000 --> 48:49.000] After that he said, I don't know the laws. I don't know what's all you're talking about, just kind of stomped off. [48:49.000 --> 48:55.000] But they did change the handbook at the place that I was employed at the time. [48:55.000 --> 49:04.000] Well, the problem is the deal with a company, you're under contract. You're under an employment contract. [49:04.000 --> 49:09.000] And those rules of the company are part of the contract. [49:09.000 --> 49:19.000] But when I walk into the court and, you know, the company, the only thing they can do is what their contract says they can do. [49:19.000 --> 49:34.000] Now, if they change their rules and they change their rules in a way that affects you negatively and doesn't compensate you for that negative effect, [49:34.000 --> 49:40.000] then the rule is unconscionable and unenforceable. [49:40.000 --> 49:43.000] The judge is different. [49:43.000 --> 49:49.000] The judge is a public official and he is acting under an official capacity. [49:49.000 --> 50:00.000] If a judge exerts or purports to exert an authority he does not expressly have and in the process denies you the full free access to enjoyment of right, [50:00.000 --> 50:06.000] that's class A misdemeanor in Texas and I don't care what his rules are. [50:06.000 --> 50:15.000] If his rules breach your right, his rules are garbage and we don't have to follow them. [50:15.000 --> 50:21.000] Some of them I follow because I'm picking my fights more careful. [50:21.000 --> 50:36.000] I haven't taken on that issue directly yet where I was denied access to a courtroom in Austin because I had a phone with me and they wouldn't allow one in the building [50:36.000 --> 50:46.000] and I forced them to throw me out of the building and call the police and try to get them to take a criminal complaint. [50:46.000 --> 50:51.000] But it wasn't the fight I was prepared to have at that time. [50:51.000 --> 51:07.000] You pick your fights really, really careful and right now the fight I'm into is one where I demonstrate to the courts that the law applies to all of us [51:07.000 --> 51:18.000] and the way I do that is get them to violate one of the laws and then go to the next person in line and get them to violate laws and keep stepping up the ladder. [51:18.000 --> 51:29.000] When I'm going to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of State of Texas with criminal charges against this local justice of the peace [51:29.000 --> 51:41.000] and the Chief Justice of the Supreme refuses to perform his duty as a magistrate and then I file a suit against the Chief Justice of the Supreme, [51:41.000 --> 51:52.000] he is not going to be happy and he's going to look for who started this mess and it's going to be the guy down there on the end. [51:52.000 --> 52:00.000] It's going to terrify them. These public officials are more afraid of the system than we are. [52:00.000 --> 52:08.000] You know we go there once in a while and we get screwed around. They're there every day and see people get screwed every day. [52:08.000 --> 52:17.000] The last thing they want is to wind up in that corrupt system and they're all afraid if this system comes after them [52:17.000 --> 52:25.000] it will treat them far more harshly than it does anybody else. So they are a terrified system. [52:25.000 --> 52:33.000] If we're going to beat them, we've got to be better at what they do than they are and the best way to do it, [52:33.000 --> 52:46.000] you can't go in there and get into a confrontation with them. The whole purpose of this strategy is to make it so that they can't get into a confrontation. [52:46.000 --> 52:51.000] They sent me to the Mansfield Police Department, the bailiff did, so I went to the Mansfield Police Department. [52:51.000 --> 52:57.000] I knew they wouldn't take a complaint and they sent an officer and I tried to get him to take a complaint. [52:57.000 --> 53:02.000] He wasn't going to take a complaint. I said, you need to step outside. We need to step outside and talk about this. [53:02.000 --> 53:09.000] When we're going outside, I told him now, he was one of these red-faced guys, his face is glowing. [53:09.000 --> 53:17.000] I told him, you need to calm down before you blow a gasket and I need you to take your chicken suit off. [53:17.000 --> 53:26.000] Well, that really annoyed him, but he didn't understand. I was setting him up because Ken Magnuson's friend of mine, [53:26.000 --> 53:38.000] his brother is a city attorney from Mansfield and his brother called Ken, Ken called me and the brother told him that the officer said I got agitated. [53:38.000 --> 53:53.000] I said, Ken, ask Craig to ask the officer if I got agitated before I asked him to take his chicken suit off or after I asked him to take his chicken suit off. [53:53.000 --> 54:00.000] Ken just kind of laughed. He said, did you ask him that? I said, yes, I did. [54:00.000 --> 54:18.000] Well, the officer thought I was just jerking him around. Well, I wasn't. I'm always thinking what will play well before a grand jury of my peers? [54:18.000 --> 54:26.000] What will, you know, the officers will always want to accuse you of being agitated because that's what they try to do. [54:26.000 --> 54:40.000] They try to get you agitated. So if you go in there and only ask them to do things you don't want them to do, they will never disappoint you. [54:40.000 --> 54:51.000] And you won't get agitated and they won't understand why because they do everything they can to get you agitated so that they can say anything about you [54:51.000 --> 54:58.000] they want to so that they can totally discredit you. And they come off the only ones that's got any sense. [54:58.000 --> 55:07.000] And these crazy citizens are all wacko and nutso and they're all agitated. They are very accustomed to people confronting them. [55:07.000 --> 55:16.000] They're very good at confrontation. This guy, when he refused to take any compliance, I told him, well, in that case, I don't need you. [55:16.000 --> 55:23.000] If you're dismissed, you can go. And he started to say something and I told him, look, beat it. I'm done with you. [55:23.000 --> 55:33.000] Get lost. And he looked like he wanted to pull his pistol and shoot me. But how's that going to play? [55:33.000 --> 55:40.000] Oh, yeah, I arrested him because he told me that I was dismissed and told me to beat it. [55:40.000 --> 55:47.000] How's that going to work for you, bubba? And I did ask him if he had his personal recording device on. [55:47.000 --> 55:57.000] And he said, yes, I do. I said, good. Make sure nothing happens to it because I'm going to want to make sure it matches what's on mine. [55:57.000 --> 56:06.000] And then he went away. All of this was a setup. When you ask them to do stuff you don't want them to do. [56:06.000 --> 56:16.000] And that's because you only ask them to do what the law requires them to do. And this is not hard. [56:16.000 --> 56:28.000] There is not near as many laws affecting this issue as it seems. If you listen to this show one time and hear me dance through these codes, [56:28.000 --> 56:40.000] it sounds like I've got the code memorized. Well, I don't. There's only about a half a dozen of them that I ever pay attention to. [56:40.000 --> 56:50.000] You hear me spouting these codes. You hear me spouting the same ones over and over. So it's not that hard to learn. [56:50.000 --> 56:59.000] If you want to go down and get some records from the clerk, just pull out the Open Records Act and go through it. [56:59.000 --> 57:07.000] Ninety percent of it you won't care about. There's a big booklet on it. And there's only a couple of sections you really need to look at. [57:07.000 --> 57:18.000] One of them goes to scope and content. And there's a section there that lists all of the things that are specified open for public inspection. [57:18.000 --> 57:23.000] And you go through that real quickly and you pretty well know what they've got to give you. [57:23.000 --> 57:34.000] And open records, all you got to know about open records is the only question they can ask you is who are you? What records do you want to see? [57:34.000 --> 57:40.000] Any question beyond that is a Class A misdemeanor on their part. [57:40.000 --> 57:51.000] And once you know what records that they're required to release, then you only ask for those records when they don't give them to you. Pile on them. [57:51.000 --> 58:00.000] As far as penal code, there's only about a half a dozen there. Once you've got those down, if you listen to this program, we go over them over and over. [58:00.000 --> 58:05.000] It won't take you long. You'll have them all. We're going to go to calls when we come back on the other side. [58:05.000 --> 58:12.000] And I apologize for holding you guys on the line so long, but this is really what the show's about. [58:12.000 --> 58:19.000] And I don't go over the basics often enough. So this is something that was going on right now. [58:19.000 --> 58:26.000] And you'll get to kind of follow it as it plays out in the future. This is going to be interesting. [58:26.000 --> 58:36.000] Since I've told them all what I'm going to do, I'm going to go down there and ask them to do stuff, and they're still going to refuse to do it. [58:36.000 --> 58:40.000] Even knowing what I'm going to do to them because they just can't help themselves. [58:40.000 --> 58:47.000] Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens with our radio or call-in number, 512-646-1984. [58:47.000 --> 58:50.000] We'll take your calls on the other side. We will be writing. [58:50.000 --> 58:58.000] The Bible remains the most popular book in the world, yet countless readers are frustrated because they struggle to understand it. [58:58.000 --> 59:06.000] Some new translations try to help by simplifying the text, but in the process can compromise the profound meaning of the scripture. [59:06.000 --> 59:13.000] Enter the recovery version. 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[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:57.000] Well, thank you for taking my call. [01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:05.000] I was calling because there's been some progression in the issue with my home. [01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:14.000] So we owned our home for 12 years, purchased it in 97, did a refi in 2008, [01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:20.000] and the whole transaction was ruckus. [01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:27.000] But anyway, it ended up for two years we were trying, after our loan got transferred to Countrywide, [01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:33.000] to do a modification because we were not able to make our payment. [01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:37.000] Countrywide failed and Bank of America took over. [01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.000] Long story short, they let another year go by, [01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:47.000] and we were working with probably like six different companies to try to modify our home, [01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.000] lost all of our money, lost our home. [01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:56.000] We were evicted, and we've been out of the house for three years. [01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:00.000] At the end of last year, beginning of this year, [01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.000] we started getting letters in the mail saying, [01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:06.000] you owe this if you don't want to foreclose on your home, [01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:13.000] then pay the lump sum of an amount that we couldn't pay, obviously. [01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:18.000] And so I was wondering what's going on. [01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:23.000] So I decided to go to the county clerk, the recording office, [01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:28.000] and I found out that the bank had canceled the deed, [01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:40.000] the one that basically took our names off of the title and said that the home was sold to a third party in a foreclosure. [01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:46.000] So they completely voided the foreclosure, the trust deed that went along with it, [01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:57.000] and then they filed a withdrawal deed and then put our names back on title. [01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:01.000] Okay. Is your name on title now? [01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.000] It is. As a direct... [01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.000] Okay. [01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:18.000] You need to file suit against the entity who evicted you from the property. [01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.000] Okay. [01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:25.000] For all of this time that you've been out of your property, [01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.000] you've been harmed and you should get lots of pain and suffering. [01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:37.000] It's a big deal when you take a person's home from them and throw them out in the street. [01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:45.000] The banks, this is happening more often because their foreclosures were improper and they knew it, [01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:52.000] and they have a clouded title that they can't fix, [01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:58.000] so they're redoing the foreclosure, trying to fill in some of these holes. [01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:08.000] Well, the problem is when they cancel the foreclosure and put the property back in your name, [01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:18.000] then they're subject to litigation for all of the harm that you were caused all of this time that you were out of the property. [01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:23.000] That can come up to a whole lot more than the value of the property, [01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:28.000] and that's not a matter of whether it occurred or not. [01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:32.000] It occurred as a matter of law, as a matter of public record, [01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:39.000] so the real question is not whether you win or not, but how much you win. [01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.000] Right. [01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.000] This is pretty clear. [01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:51.000] Yes, and on the recording for correction of error, [01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:56.000] it says that the error was erroneous recording of the trustee's deed, [01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:04.000] which was the one dated for which was the foreclosure when they changed the trust. [01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:07.000] There was no deed. [01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:11.000] It was void when it was filed. [01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:14.000] You owned the property the whole time, [01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:22.000] and they evicted you from the property when there was a void deed of trust, [01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.000] or substitute trustee's deed. [01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.000] Did you fight the foreclosure? [01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:34.000] We did, and basically we also fought the eviction, [01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:42.000] claiming that the foreclosure was illegal, and we cooperated because we were pro se. [01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:43.000] Okay. [01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:47.000] How long ago were you evicted from the property? [01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:48.000] Wait, wait. [01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.000] No, that's not the right question. [01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.000] Okay. [01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:57.000] When did you first go into default? [01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:01.000] It had to have been in 2008. [01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:04.000] Oh, they got a problem. [01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:05.000] Check the records. [01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:12.000] Most states have a statute of limitations on foreclosure. [01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:18.000] Texas, Florida, Colorado, four years. [01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:23.000] 2008 to 2013, that's five years. [01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:31.000] Once they canceled that foreclosure and the deed, now they're over the statute of limitations. [01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:37.000] They can no longer foreclose. [01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:38.000] Wow. [01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:42.000] You need to get somebody who can read the law [01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:47.000] and have them look up the statute of limitations for prosecuting the foreclosure. [01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:56.000] If they removed the trustee's deed as being improperly filed, then the foreclosure didn't happen. [01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.000] It's like nothing happened. [01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:02.000] They have to start over again. [01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:07.000] When they start over, if it's past four years, they don't have standing. [01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.000] So you may be able to make the whole thing go away, [01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:15.000] get the property back, and sue for all the damages that occurred to you in the interim. [01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:17.000] Okay. [01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:30.000] Now, do we have the ability now to go back in our home because our names are back on the title? [01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.000] Is your home empty? [01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.000] It's empty. [01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.000] Has it been damaged? [01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:39.000] No. [01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.000] Okay, go in and check it closely. [01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.000] Photograph everything. [01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:52.000] If there's any damage to it, make sure you log the damage, but move back into it immediately. [01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:57.000] Or take something that's yours and put it in the home, [01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:02.000] have the locks changed on the door and put in no trespassing sign on it. [01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:12.000] And it might be best to go get a cheap computer somewhere and a set of relatively inexpensive video cameras. [01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:15.000] Put one at the front door and the back door. [01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.000] You can get some software that does motion sensing. [01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:24.000] They'll call your cell phone if anybody walks up on the porch. [01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:26.000] An old computer will do this. [01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.000] A $50 computer will run the video camera. [01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:37.000] And it'll call you and you have a no trespassing sign up there and it'll take video of them. [01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:42.000] First one that comes up there to, you know, first real estate agent. [01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:49.000] Then you file criminal trespass against the agent and sue him. [01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:50.000] That'll get to you. [01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.000] You need to make this costly for him. [01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:57.000] It is all about the money. [01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.000] It's never about the law. [01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.000] It's never about the right of things. [01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.000] It's never about justice. [01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:07.000] It's always about the money. [01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:12.000] You should sue the lawyer specifically. [01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:19.000] Absolutely sue the substitute trustee. [01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:22.000] Sue them individually, personally. [01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:24.000] These guys are going to get real unhappy. [01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.000] And then once you have, you need a good suit. [01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.000] You need a good evaluation of the record. [01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:39.000] I'm going to suggest that you spend a little money and get a complete chain of title on the property. [01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:43.000] Get a complete evaluation of all of the public records. [01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:49.000] And this will give you a number of claims to bring back to them. [01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:56.000] And you put together all of your claims in a lawsuit. [01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:58.000] And then don't file it. [01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:06.000] Take the lawsuit heading off the top and put notice of tort. [01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:14.000] Send that to the bank, not to these lawyers, but to the bank who claim to do the foreclosure. [01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:21.000] Tell them, guys, we are about to sue you every way from Sunday. [01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:26.000] And when we do, you're going to hire a bunch of lawyers and they're going to churn the case. [01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:32.000] And they're going to extract from you as much as they can in attorney fees. [01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:35.000] So tell you what let's do. [01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:41.000] You write me a check for this amount and we'll go away and leave you alone. [01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:48.000] If you don't, we're going to have you in court until we both get old. [01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:54.000] And because you rescinded the foreclosure, the foreclosure was fraudulent. [01:13:54.000 --> 01:14:02.000] As a matter of law, you are subject to collateral estoppel from claiming that it was not fraudulent. [01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:06.000] So that part's a done deal. [01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.000] It's not a matter of will we win or not. [01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.000] We already have. [01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:16.000] It's a matter of how much you're going to have to pay us before this is over. [01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:22.000] And we would rather you give us some of the money you would give to the lawyers. [01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:30.000] And it saves both of us the only one that loses out is the lawyers. [01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000] See if you can find a lawyer who will do that for you. [01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.000] Lawyers do not like to go to court and fight cases. [01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.000] They like to make deals. [01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:40.000] It would be a lot easier to find a lawyer to make a deal. [01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:50.000] And you take him this, if you take him our evaluations, I can do the public records. [01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:55.000] And Joe Esquivel does the complete chain of title. [01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:01.000] We will have enough claims against them that there is no way they're going to want to go to court with you. [01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:05.000] And you give this to a lawyer, a lawyer will understand what he's seeing here. [01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:16.000] And most likely you'll find a lawyer who will take your case on contingency, on a percentage of what he gets for you. [01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:22.000] The more you take to the lawyer, the better deal you're going to get from the lawyer. [01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:27.000] The less work he has to do, the better deal he'll give you. [01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:33.000] So they tell you how much to sue for or do we say what? [01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:39.000] You start out, just to start, you claim three times the amount of the original property. [01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:45.000] The property they stole from you, you claim three times the amount of the property. [01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:56.000] And then you take whatever it costs you to rent another place or to lease a place over this time period, you claim three times that amount. [01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:01.000] And then you claim all the pain and suffering because that house was your home. [01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.000] It was so important to you. [01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:10.000] It just tore your heart out to have to leave your home. [01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:13.000] Like Debra said, you have a right to pain and suffering. [01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:28.000] And also if you have me do the evaluation, and I don't want to sound like I'm using this show as a infomercial because I'm not. [01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:32.000] But I have a spreadsheet that I've built. 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[01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:36.000] Well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.000] I was blindsided but now I can see your plan. [01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:46.000] You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my ass. [01:19:46.000 --> 01:20:13.000] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:23.000] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rue of La Radio, and we're talking to, well, Deliverance in Oregon. [01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.000] Excuse me there, you got moved around on my call screen. [01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:33.000] Okay, Deliverance, does we have anything else for us? Does that all make sense to you? [01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:43.000] Oh, yeah, definitely. And I do believe I want to go ahead and get the public records. [01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:52.000] Get the public records. Go down and ask the clerk to search for everything that's been filed in your record [01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:57.000] and ask them to give you a list of everything they find so you can go look it up. [01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:11.000] Keep that list. Then get me a copy of everything that's been filed in the record from the day you received a warranty deed. [01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:20.000] Get that to me. I'll look it over and then I'll let you know basically what I think we can find if I do a complete evaluation. [01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:27.000] A complete evaluation takes me a couple of days to complete. It is very exhaustive. [01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:34.000] And I'll look at it and see if a chain of title is in order. And that's going to depend on who gets assigned what. [01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:43.000] I don't always suggest a chain of title audit. Only if there's certain conditions that exist. [01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:56.000] If somebody claims to be a holder of the note and there's nothing in the public record demonstrating how they're the holder, [01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:02.000] then we want to chain a title so that we can show that they're not the holder. [01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:03.000] Right. [01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:07.000] But I don't always ask for it. It depends on what the record says. [01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:14.000] So if you've seen me all of the documents that have been filed in the county record since the date you first received a warranty deed, [01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:19.000] I'll look them over and contact you and let you know what I got. [01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:24.000] Okay. And that's warranty deed. That's not from back when I first purchased the house. [01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.000] That's from back when you purchased the house. [01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.000] Okay. [01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:38.000] When you purchased the house, you traded a note and a deed of trust for a warranty deed. [01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:43.000] The warranty deed transferred the property into your name. [01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:44.000] Okay. [01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.000] So I need from that document forward. [01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.000] All right. I can do that. [01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:57.000] Okay. Get that to me and I will let you know what we find. [01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.000] Do you want that email or? [01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:09.000] Email. Email it to Randy at ruleoflawradio.com. [01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:12.000] All right. Okay. Thank you. [01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000] Okay. Thank you, Ms. Deliverance. [01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:20.000] Okay. Now we're going to go to Angie in Mississippi. [01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:24.000] Angie, how are things going in Hillbilly land? [01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:28.000] Very interesting. [01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:33.000] Okay. What is your question or comment? [01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:40.000] Concerning the Allange that I've been dealing with, as you know, [01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:51.000] this has been going on for some time and I have received three responses from the servicer [01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:56.000] in reference to notes in demand for full disclosure. [01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:00.000] And packet number one from May did not include an Allange. [01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:04.000] Packet number two included an Allange with three signatures. [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:15.000] And packet number three included an Allange with a erased signature. [01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.000] That's interesting. [01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:21.000] Okay. Did you see me at email about that because that's familiar? [01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:23.000] Yes, sir. Yes, sir. [01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:25.000] And you had me call in tonight. Yes, sir. [01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:28.000] You wanted me to call in tonight. [01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:34.000] Well, tomorrow is better because we'll have Joe. [01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.000] I work mostly with what's in the public record. [01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:45.000] Joe is far more familiar with the Allanges and precisely what must be on them, [01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:51.000] what can't be on them, and he will be able to tell you a whole lot more about the effect [01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:57.000] of that erased signature and how to adjudicate it. [01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:59.000] Okay. [01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:02.000] And I'm sorry you held on so long. [01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:06.000] That's okay. I do have some questions if it's okay. [01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:09.000] Yes, yes. [01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:22.000] I sent a letter to MERS requesting proof that a said person has signed authority for the entity. [01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:30.000] And matter of fact, I called my servicer today to make sure they had received some facts documents. [01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:41.000] And she commits to tell me that the last thing that was received was this particular letter with, [01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:47.000] and I do have the returned signature that I had sent to MERS. [01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:54.000] She told me that they received this there in their office, the bank. [01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:58.000] I think you had mentioned something about this before. [01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.000] Yes, yes. Okay. [01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:09.000] If they do not respond, that creates prima facie evidence that the person who signed the document [01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:15.000] did not have power of attorney for MERS. [01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:22.000] When the document is filed, the presumption is that it's valid until it's challenged. [01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:28.000] And you could go to the court and say, your honor, this guy signed this document for MERS, [01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:34.000] and his name is flattered all over the Internet, and he's a robo-signer. [01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:37.000] And the judge is going to say so. [01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:44.000] That doesn't mean he doesn't have authority to sign in this instance. [01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:51.000] So you send that letter and ask for MERS to provide you with evidence of power of attorney [01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:55.000] because the person signed for MERS. [01:26:55.000 --> 01:27:04.000] If you don't get a response under 12EUS, if someone has a duty to respond and they fail to respond, [01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.000] that may be equated as fraud. [01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:14.000] And in this case, you can take that, their failure to affirm this person's power of attorney [01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:22.000] has reasonable probable cause to believe that he doesn't have it. [01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:25.000] It just goes to prima facie. [01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:29.000] On the face of it, there's reason to believe he don't have it. [01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:40.000] So now you shift the burden directly to MERS or to whoever is trying to claim hold of status to foreclose, [01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:45.000] and you say that the document that was signed here is invalid [01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:50.000] because the signatory lack of authority to sign the document. [01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:52.000] And you have prima facie evidence. [01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:58.000] If that's true, now if you can't overcome the prima facie evidence, you're out of here. [01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:06.000] So as to who it gets, if you send it to MERS address and you've got a return receipt, [01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:09.000] you don't care what happened to it after that. [01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.000] Right. It was actually received at the bank. [01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:16.000] We don't care who got it. [01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:19.000] We don't care who signed, what they did with it. [01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:21.000] You don't care. [01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:22.000] You sent it. [01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:24.000] You can prove you sent it. [01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:31.000] If they screwed up and sent it to the wrong place, they're a problem, not your problem. [01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:36.000] So you have your prima facie. [01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:41.000] I wouldn't make any noise about it until I got it to court. [01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:43.000] All right. [01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:51.000] You file a quiet title action concerning the document with that signature on it. [01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:57.000] Claim that the document is invalid because the signature is not by someone [01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:01.000] with demonstrated authority designed for MERS. [01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.000] Okay, got it. [01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:09.000] You use this letter and the non-response as prima facie evidence to indicate [01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:13.000] that they don't have authority to sign. [01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:14.000] That's beautiful. [01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:17.000] Did you send letters to all of the notaries as well? [01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:21.000] Oh, yes, sir, and I haven't gotten a response on any of those. [01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:23.000] Wonderful. [01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:25.000] That gives you prima facie on every one of those. [01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:32.000] So every document that has a notary on it, accept the deed of trust. [01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:35.000] You don't want to make that one because you're the only one that signed it [01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:39.000] because they'll just ask you did you sign it, and that'll prove it up. [01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:42.000] But all of the others, you can challenge. [01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:43.000] Okay, hang on. [01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:44.000] We're about to go to break. [01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:48.000] This is Grant Shelton, Amber Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio, [01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:54.000] our call-in number, 512-646-1984, John Russ Carey. [01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.000] Actually, Carey, John Russ. [01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:57.000] I see you there. [01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:00.000] We'll get to you on the other side, and we'll be right back. [01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.000] Who wrote the Federalist Papers? [01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:07.000] You need to know if you were an immigrant wanting to become an American. 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[01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:16.000] Who you take me for? [01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.000] Who you want to chip? [01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.000] You can't chip me. [01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:24.000] Don't let them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, [01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.000] put a chip in your body. [01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:28.000] And then when you go computer reading, [01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.000] you can't hide me from nobody. [01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.000] When I say chip in your mom, chip in your daddy, [01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:36.000] chip in your grandpa and the granny, [01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:38.000] chip in me, chip in your baby, [01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.000] chip in your family, whole family, [01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.000] chip in your dad and the kids around me, [01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:45.000] chip in the beef and you still go eat it, [01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:48.000] chip in the fish, them all in the sea, [01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:50.000] chip in the shark and the whale around me, [01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:53.000] you know, still mankind gone chip crazy. [01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:55.000] They're the kind of thing, man, they want to be be. [01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:57.000] So for security, they've got to be. [01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:00.000] Number with them, give me them, repeat what you see. [01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:02.000] I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, [01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:04.000] chip you all the dinner time, [01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:06.000] experiment on mankind. [01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:10.000] Okay, we are back with Andy Kelton and Douglas Stevens, [01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:11.000] rule our radio. [01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:14.000] And we're talking to Angie in Mississippi. [01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:18.000] Okay, Angie, do you have any other questions [01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:20.000] or comments for tonight? [01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:21.000] Yes, sir. [01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:23.000] Two things real quick. [01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:26.000] During an oral argument in the courtroom, [01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.000] is the judge illegally practicing law from the bench [01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:31.000] when he asks people to argue things [01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:33.000] that they don't even mention in their writings, [01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:39.000] like, well, don't you like if he were to say, [01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:42.000] you know, he kind of ignores the evidence [01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.000] that's being brought forth, the fraud, [01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:47.000] but he asks, well, don't you owe money or something to that sex, [01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.000] you know, because I run into that a lot. [01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:52.000] I've tried to file criminal charges and complaints. [01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.000] Okay, hold on, hold on. [01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:58.000] Have you been through Jewish dictionary? [01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.000] Not yet. [01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.000] You really need to go through Jewish dictionary. [01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:07.000] He will take you through all of the objections. [01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:08.000] Yes, sir. [01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:12.000] Objection relevance. [01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.000] What are the issues before the court? [01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:21.000] Yeah, you can get jurisdictionary on our website [01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:24.000] at either ruleoflawradio.com or logosradionetwork.com. [01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:27.000] On logosradionetwork.com, you click on the sponsors link, [01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:31.000] and you scroll down to the banner that says how to win in court. [01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:32.000] Okay, yes. [01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:38.000] That is absolutely by far the best investment you will ever make. [01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:41.000] Yes, especially for several cases. [01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:43.000] I have people call it into my show, [01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.000] and I can tell if they've been through Jewish dictionary. [01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.000] I could tell that you haven't. [01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.000] That's why I ask that. [01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.000] If you had been through Jewish dictionary, [01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:58.000] you would be asking me a whole different set of questions. [01:35:58.000 --> 01:35:59.000] Okay. [01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:04.000] You'd be asking me what is the proper objection to that [01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:08.000] rather than whether the judge can do it or not. [01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:12.000] Absolutely get that course. [01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.000] You're trying to save your house, and if you have to go into court, [01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:17.000] this will bring you up to speed. [01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:23.000] This is litigation 101. [01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:24.000] Okay. [01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:30.000] And 90% of everything you're going to do there is going to be basics. [01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:34.000] So have a look and get that. [01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:40.000] First rule, the first thing Dr. Grace will tell you is [01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.000] don't expect to win in the trial court. [01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:45.000] Right. [01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:48.000] Let me say, if you're going in pro se, [01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:53.000] you can expect the judge to rule against you out of hand at every turn. [01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:56.000] You really don't care. [01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:06.000] Your only purpose in the trial court must always be to set the record for appeal. [01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:13.000] That's where you must go into court expecting to win your case. [01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:17.000] If you go in expecting to win in the trial court, [01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:24.000] you will get nothing but frustration and anger and betrayal. [01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.000] And that has a debilitating effect on you. [01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:30.000] You don't care what that judge does. [01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:32.000] You're just setting the record. [01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:34.000] Here are the facts, Judge. [01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:37.000] I need these facts in the record. [01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:39.000] And here are my objections. [01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:41.000] I need my objections in the record. [01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:47.000] Your objections preserve your points for appeal. [01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:51.000] Primarily, that's all you care about. [01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:54.000] If you're worrying about something else, [01:37:54.000 --> 01:38:00.000] your focus is in the wrong place and those lawyers will use that against you. [01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:05.000] So get that, go through it as quickly as you can, [01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:08.000] then you'll know exactly what to do with this, Judge. [01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:10.000] Okay. [01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.000] If the judge asks you a question like that, [01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:16.000] this goes to never stipulate to anything. [01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:18.000] Judge asked me a question like that, [01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.000] I said, well, Your Honor, [01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:28.000] I have made it into lots of contracts where I had a debt that I needed to pay. [01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:33.000] I don't ever remember entering into one with this person, [01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:37.000] and I certainly have no duty to stipulate. [01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:39.000] They're the ones making the claim. [01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:44.000] You get them to tell you whether I owe you money or owe them money or not. [01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:49.000] Not my place or object to the question. [01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:52.000] If you're a dictionary, you'll understand that. [01:38:52.000 --> 01:39:00.000] This goes to how the law is structured and how information is to be brought to the court, [01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:06.000] what the judge is supposed to do, what he's not supposed to do. [01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:12.000] What he was asking you to do was stipulate to something. [01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:15.000] And you just say, no, I never entered into a contract with these people. [01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:19.000] I don't know anything about these people. [01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.000] If they show you documents, [01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:25.000] if they're not the original document that you actually signed, [01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:30.000] never seen that before, not my signature. [01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:32.000] You haven't seen it before. [01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:33.000] It's a copy. [01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.000] You haven't seen that copy, and you didn't sign that copy. [01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.000] All right. [01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:43.000] This is the kind of basic stuff that Jurisdictionary will help you with. [01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:48.000] Lawyers get out of law school, they don't know anything about the practice of law. [01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:53.000] Every lawyer that gets out of law school should get Jurisdictionary. [01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:55.000] They don't teach them that in law school. [01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:59.000] They don't learn that until they get out and actually practice law. [01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:03.000] It is the basics that every law follows. [01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:06.000] I can guarantee you that would be the best thing you ever did. [01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.000] Yes, sir. [01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:09.000] Okay. [01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:12.000] I'm going to stop preaching now. [01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:13.000] Anything else? [01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:14.000] We do need to move along. [01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:17.000] We've got three more callers and we're running out of time. [01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:24.000] I did try to file criminal charges in reference to the documents, [01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:28.000] and I was rejected on every account. [01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:30.000] I know you want me to call in tomorrow. [01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:31.000] Oh, don't worry about that. [01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:32.000] Okay. [01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:33.000] We're going to run out. [01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:36.000] We don't have time to go through all of the due process criminal part, [01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.000] but we do a four-hour tomorrow night. [01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:43.000] If you'll call in, I'll take you early, and we'll go through that. [01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:50.000] That's a little more complex, but really rewarding. [01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:51.000] Okay. [01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:52.000] Thank you. [01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:53.000] Can you call back tomorrow? [01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.000] I sure will. [01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:56.000] Thank you, Angie. [01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:57.000] Okay. [01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:58.000] Thank you. [01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:03.000] We're going to go to Carrie in Missouri. [01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:04.000] Hello, Ms. Carrie. [01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:06.000] What do you have for us tonight? [01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:07.000] Hi, Mr. Kelton. [01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:09.000] I'm actually calling from Liberty, Missouri. [01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:11.000] I have a friend that I'm calling in for. [01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:14.000] He's active duty, Army. [01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:16.000] He is in a situation. [01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:21.000] He told his last payment on his home was in 2010. [01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:26.000] He told the bank to take back the home because he got a divorce, [01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:31.000] and his ex-wife wanted half of the equity. [01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:33.000] But when they came to settle, [01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:36.000] she said she was no longer interested in any of the equity of the house, [01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:38.000] so it sits empty. [01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:41.000] Both of their names are still on the home. [01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:42.000] It's in their name. [01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.000] He's wondering if there's anything that he could do, [01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:48.000] because Wells Fargo told him they can't foreclose [01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:50.000] because he's active duty, Military. [01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:54.000] And she happens to be a lawyer, his ex-wife. [01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:59.000] So he's wondering if he can do anything. [01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:00.000] Okay. [01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:02.000] I'm not sure. [01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:05.000] Okay, his ex-wife doesn't want anything to do with it? [01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:07.000] Right. [01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:14.000] She's not going to want a foreclosure on her credit. [01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:16.000] So there are things he can do. [01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.000] He can short sell it. [01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:23.000] But if he's going to short sell it, get him to contact me. [01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:27.000] The bank is not going to want to give him a short sale. [01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:32.000] The bank is going to be really, really difficult to get along with. [01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:39.000] So he needs to take his best jump boots [01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:42.000] and put those steel-toed jump boots on [01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.000] and kick that bank right square in the rear with him, [01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.000] and we will show him how to do that. [01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:55.000] To prepare a good tort letter for the bank. [01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:58.000] And we do a good evaluation of all the documentation [01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:00.000] and say, okay, guys, [01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:06.000] here's how I'm going to kick your behinds every way from Sunday. [01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:10.000] Now, I can kick your behinds every way from Sunday, [01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:16.000] or you can make me a deal that I can't pass up. [01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:22.000] And instead of paying all your lawyers all this money I'm going to cost you, [01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:24.000] you can give me a little bit of it, [01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:27.000] take it off the principal, we'll short sell this property, [01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:31.000] and everybody will be happy. [01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:33.000] Okay. [01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:39.000] They're not going to listen to anything unless he sues them. [01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:43.000] And suing them is a piece of cake. [01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:46.000] So tell him, have him contact us, we'll show him how to do it. [01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:48.000] Have him call into show tomorrow night. [01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.000] We'll talk to him about it, if he can. [01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:53.000] Okay, we're about to go to break. [01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:55.000] We have John, Russ, we'll pick you up on the other side. [01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:57.000] This is Randy Cutton, Denver Stevens. [01:43:57.000 --> 01:43:58.000] We have Law Radio. [01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:00.000] We have the Library. [01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:04.000] Do you feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics? [01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:05.000] Sorry. [01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:07.000] Are you confused by words like the Constitution or the Federal Reserve? [01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:08.000] What? [01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:12.000] If so, you may be diagnosed with the deadliest disease known today, stupidity. 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[01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:46.000] Okay, we are back. [01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:49.000] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. [01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:54.000] We're going to John in Texas. Hello, John, what do you have for us? [01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:57.000] Hey, Randy. I know time's running out. I'll be quick. [01:46:57.000 --> 01:46:59.000] I have just a couple of quick questions for you. [01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:07.000] The first one is, what do you know about getting a federal appeal expedited? [01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:10.000] You can't. Okay. [01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:14.000] The federal courts are so crowded with all of these foreclosure issues. [01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.000] They were crowded before that. [01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:19.000] But with all of these foreclosure suits, they're so crowded, [01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:22.000] you're going to have a hard time expediting suit. [01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:30.000] I mean, you can file a motion asking the court to expedite, [01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:35.000] but unless you have really good cause, they're going to tell you [01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:40.000] everybody wants their ruling really fast. [01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:47.000] Yeah. I don't know of anything specific that will allow you to do that. [01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.000] Well, I figured that was probably the case. [01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:54.000] I mean, there are provisions for it in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, [01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:59.000] but that's a common complaint that I see is that even when you ask for it [01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:03.000] to be expedited, expedited could be a year as opposed to three years, [01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:06.000] so maybe you might know something on that. [01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:14.000] Okay. Next question is, I need a suit. [01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:18.000] Actually, let me back up just for the benefit of the listeners. [01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:20.000] My property was sold at a foreclosure sale, [01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:24.000] and the company who bought it is now trying to evict me. [01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:28.000] Okay. I previously filed a suit in district court that was removed [01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:32.000] from the federal court, and I got a temporary restraining order [01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:37.000] that stopped the eviction court. [01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:43.000] And so I need another suit that I can file. [01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:46.000] I'm thinking about just filing a simple declaratory judgment [01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:49.000] just on the validity of the deed of trust. [01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:57.000] No, no. Your post foreclosure, you file a trespass to tri-title. [01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:03.000] Trespass to tri-title is better because the other side can't get attorney fees. [01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:10.000] And trespass to tri-title that goes to a title issue will have the effect [01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:15.000] of denying the eviction court in jurisdiction. [01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:19.000] Yeah, any time you have a suit challenging title in a court of [01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:21.000] competent jurisdiction that can hear issues in the title, [01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:25.000] the eviction court is supposed to be stopped. [01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:27.000] But in this case, they're not doing it. [01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:28.000] They went ahead. [01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:30.000] As soon as the defendant got that dismissal order, [01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:33.000] within three minutes of getting the dismissal order, [01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:38.000] they sent a letter and a copy of the dismissal order to the eviction court [01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:39.000] and said, let's go forward. [01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.000] The court said okay, and they've got it scheduled. [01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:46.000] I need something that I can point at. [01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:50.000] See, and I don't know if I file a suit against anybody [01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:55.000] other than the people that are trying to take my house. [01:49:55.000 --> 01:50:03.000] A trespass to tri-title is, I'm not exactly sure how that's to be styled. [01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:05.000] I need to go back and look. [01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:13.000] You really don't have, this is almost like an in-rem action [01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:16.000] in that it's an action against the property. [01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:22.000] Yeah, I've done a lot of study on the client title stuff, particularly in Texas. [01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:27.000] And in Texas, you have a traditional equitable suit to client title [01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:30.000] where you do not rely on the strength of your title. [01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:32.000] You rely on the weakness of the others. [01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:39.000] In a trespass to tri-title suit, you rely on the strength of your title [01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:45.000] over the others, and both parties have to trace their title back to a common source [01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:48.000] and in their slander of title and a few other things. [01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:55.000] And in this case, you were issued an uncontested warranty deed. [01:50:55.000 --> 01:51:03.000] That warranty deed was never contested until a substitute trustee's deed was filed. [01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:12.000] The substitute trustee's deed is the one you challenge as having problems with it [01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:18.000] so that your warranty deed is stronger than the substitute trustee's deed. [01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:21.000] And you're in Texas, you've got a deed of trust. [01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:24.000] That deed of trust is trash. [01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:27.000] Whoever wrote that thing had to be high on coke. [01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:33.000] The thing is unenforceable if you just go to the weaknesses in the document itself. [01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:37.000] You're in Tarrant County, they filed it with a Tarrant County clerk [01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:43.000] in violation of 15 U.S. Code 7003. [01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:46.000] They had to file the original document with the clerk [01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:51.000] unless you agreed in writing that they could do an e-filing. [01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:55.000] Did you give them a written agreement that they could e-file? [01:51:55.000 --> 01:52:00.000] The 7003, is that the UETA stuff? [01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:07.000] UETA, U-S, I hate acronyms. [01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.000] The United States Code. [01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:12.000] Okay, I'll look it up. [01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:15.000] My dilemma is here that I need a suit that I can file [01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:20.000] where I can name as the defendant the people that are trying to take my house [01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:22.000] because if I name anybody else other than defendant, [01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:26.000] then I can't point the temporary restraining order [01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:29.000] at the people that are trying to take my house. [01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:36.000] And also I know that the eviction court, if there is a suit filed, [01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:40.000] it challenges title and it's filed in a court of confidence jurisdiction [01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:42.000] and the eviction court has notice of it. [01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:47.000] They are supposed to stop, but I'm expecting that they will not honor that. [01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:49.000] Well, I am working on that now. [01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:56.000] We have some JPs who are overriding challenges in subject matter jurisdiction, [01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:03.000] denying appeals, and we're going to go after them criminally. [01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:07.000] And I'm preparing a RICO suit against all of them. [01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:10.000] We may get this straightened out. [01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:11.000] Interesting. [01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:14.000] Well, I'm weak, so I'll see what I can do in that time. [01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:19.000] Okay, well, that's really all I have. [01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:23.000] And I know you've got a lot of callers, so I'll let them have the remainder of the time. [01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:27.000] I appreciate it, Randy. [01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:28.000] Okay. [01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:29.000] Did I lose you? [01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:30.000] Oh, there you are. [01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:31.000] Okay. [01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:32.000] Thanks, Randy. [01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:33.000] I appreciate it. [01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:34.000] Okay. [01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:35.000] Okay. [01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:36.000] Now we're going to go to Russ in Texas. [01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:37.000] Hello, Russ. [01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:38.000] What do you have for us? [01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:39.000] Hey, Randy. [01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:40.000] How are you? [01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:41.000] I'm doing good. [01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:44.000] Just some stuff to share. [01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:46.000] This is my second call-in. [01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.000] I'm a regular listener. [01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:54.000] One of the things I'm doing since the Health Care Act came out is it's only for federal citizens. [01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:58.000] So if you're a U.S. citizen subject to the federal zone in Congress, [01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:04.000] then you have to sign up, and RRS can take taxes out to pay for it. [01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:07.000] So I've been working for the past year or two to get rid of that. [01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:13.000] So I'm rescinding all of my contracts with the federal government, and I'm getting a passport. [01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:16.000] I don't have one yet, but I'm getting a passport. [01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:21.000] And what to do is, you know, you either sign up as a U.S. citizen, [01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.000] which is a federal citizen, or a non-citizen national. [01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:30.000] A non-citizen national means that you are a state citizen. [01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:31.000] So I'm a Texan. [01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:32.000] I'm born in Texas. [01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:38.000] I was not born in the United States, which is defined as D.C. and its territories. [01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:40.000] So I'm going to do that. [01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:43.000] And I come across a guy who did that recently. [01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:49.000] And what he did was he sent in his birth certificate as the applicant, [01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:54.000] because that is the federal citizen part, and you have to use that to get a passport. [01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:59.000] So what he did, he sent his birth certificate as the applicant, [01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:03.000] and he submitted a common law ID with a photo, his picture, [01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:07.000] with the fact that he's a California citizen. [01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:11.000] And he signed it and got it certified by the court. [01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:17.000] Well, as to the ID, couldn't he just go to California and get a state ID? [01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:21.000] Well, see, when you get a state ID, you're a federal citizen. [01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:22.000] No, you're not. [01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:24.000] They don't have anything to do with the Fed. [01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:27.000] I'll finish and explain why. [01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:32.000] I said a state ID, not a federal ID, a state ID. [01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:34.000] The state ID is like your driver's license. [01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:35.000] I looked at the forms. [01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:36.000] No, no, no. [01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:41.000] If you have a driver's license, you can get a state ID. [01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:42.000] Okay, well, I want to go ahead. [01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:43.000] I have one. [01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:47.000] So basically he sent in his common law ID that he made with a photo, [01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:51.000] and another republic signed off and he got it certified, [01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:53.000] and he sent that in as the bearer. [01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:56.000] So he has an applicant as his birth certificate, [01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:59.000] and him he identified as the bearer. [01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:03.000] And his signature, he is saying that his signature, [01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:06.000] he qualified his signature with a by, you know, [01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:11.000] he signed it by colon and then his name in upper and lower case, [01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:18.000] and then comma authorized agent for the birth certificate. [01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:21.000] And so he sent it in, and it took a long time, like six weeks. [01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:26.000] And when he called to check, the person at the United States State Office, [01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:31.000] Secretary of State, said that John Kerry wanted to look at it personally [01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:33.000] and approve it before he sent it. [01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:37.000] So John Kerry had to personally approve it because it was the first time [01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:40.000] she had seen that, and he approved it and sent it in. [01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:48.000] So he's got his real, you know, signature being himself, you know, the man. [01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:53.000] And then he has his, you know, legal fiction as the applicant. [01:56:53.000 --> 01:57:00.000] And so he is now an official noncitizen national with the state California citizen. [01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:04.000] So now he can take that to his driver's license office if he wanted one [01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:11.000] and sign up at the driver's license office for a noncitizen national [01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:13.000] and not a U.S. citizen. [01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:18.000] So he preserves all of his constitutional not-given rights [01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:24.000] as opposed to being a second-class 14th Amendment citizen. [01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:25.000] And if you want to see his video... [01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:29.000] Okay, you're doing what I get a lot. [01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:32.000] You're telling me some really cool stuff. [01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:37.000] But what I don't have is anything to back it up. [01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:43.000] When somebody says, well, I'm not going to process this because you can't do that, [01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:48.000] how do I support my standing to do that? [01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:49.000] Can you call in tomorrow night? [01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.000] I'd like to talk about this more. [01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:55.000] ...on thirdrailblog.com. [01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.000] Third Rail is in railroad. [01:57:57.000 --> 01:58:01.000] Thirdrailblog.com. [01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:04.000] And in the video, he explains what he did. [01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:08.000] And I'm in the process of doing that as well. [01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:10.000] Third Rail log, L-O-G? [01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:13.000] Log, D-L-O-G. [01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:14.000] Oh, blog. [01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:18.000] Blog.com. [01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:19.000] Okay. [01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:21.000] I will have a look at it. [01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:23.000] If you have time, call in tomorrow night. [01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:25.000] I'd like to talk about this a little more. [01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:26.000] Okay. [01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:27.000] Okay. [01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:28.000] Thank you, Russ. [01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:31.000] This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. [01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:36.000] We will be back tomorrow night with our four-hour info marathon. [01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:42.000] And we will talk about foreclosure in the first half with Joe Esquivel. [01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:45.000] And we'll have our phones open all night, so give us a call. [01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.000] Thank you for listening. [01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:50.000] And good night. [01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:55.000] Bibles for America is offering absolutely free a unique study Bible [01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:58.000] called the New Testament Recovery Version. 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