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[03:12.000 --> 03:39.000]  Really, man, come on, six o'clock news says somebody's been shot, somebody's been abused, somebody blew up a building, somebody stole their car, somebody got away, somebody didn't get too far, yeah, they didn't get too far.
[03:39.000 --> 03:47.000]  Grandpappy told my pappy back in my day's slot, a man had to answer for the ways that he'd done.
[03:47.000 --> 04:01.000]  Take all the rope in Texas by the tall old tree, round up all of them bad boys, hang them high on the street, for all the people to see.
[04:01.000 --> 04:09.000]  That justice is one thing you should always find, you gotta saddle up your boys, you gotta draw a hard line.
[04:09.000 --> 04:34.000]  When the gun smoke settles, we'll sing a victory tune, and we'll all be back at the local snow. We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing, whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.
[04:34.000 --> 04:46.000]  All right, folks, good evening. This is the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Traffic Show, and this is your host, Eddie Craig. It is Monday, November 4th, 2013.
[04:46.000 --> 05:02.000]  We are well on our way to the end of this year. If only we were well on our way to the end of a lot of other things detrimental to us in so many ways, like the Fed, Obama, and pretty much the federal government in general.
[05:02.000 --> 05:16.000]  But until folks wake up, get a grip on reality, and decide to do something about it, we're stuck where we are. Otherwise, it's just a handful of us against a whole lot of them, and nobody with the guts to stand up long enough to do anything about it.
[05:16.000 --> 05:21.000]  And that's just disappointing, but it is what it is.
[05:21.000 --> 05:33.000]  That being said, what I want to cover tonight is something that I got in the email today that I thought most of you would find very, very interesting. I know I did.
[05:33.000 --> 06:02.000]  Now, what I got was an email from the Harris County Municipal Justice Bar Association, more or less. It's from an attorney that's actually a member of this, who, in this email, invited me to attend their ongoing or their continuing legal education seminar,
[06:02.000 --> 06:05.000]  this upcoming February.
[06:05.000 --> 06:17.000]  Now, of course, you know that if you've listened to the show for very long, then you know there are three very specific things about me in relation to this that makes this email rather ironic.
[06:17.000 --> 06:20.000]  One, I am not an attorney.
[06:20.000 --> 06:28.000]  So why a bunch of attorneys would want me to come speak at their seminar is beyond me.
[06:28.000 --> 06:39.000]  Two, that I despise the profession because of those that have used it to abuse the people in general.
[06:39.000 --> 06:58.000]  And three, I teach regular everyday people how to combat these people that are prosecuting as municipal attorneys and defending as defense attorneys, but refusing to protect the rights of their clients in the process.
[06:58.000 --> 07:10.000]  Also, that they can continue to practice law in front of a friendly judge. In other words, they serve themselves in their careers and not the clients that they're supposed to defend.
[07:10.000 --> 07:15.000]  Those are my three biggest things about the irony of this email.
[07:15.000 --> 07:28.000]  Now, I'm going to read to you what it says. I have redacted the person's last name, their contact phone number, and specifically the firm that they work in. But I did look the firm up. And I want to tell you something.
[07:28.000 --> 07:36.000]  This attorney works at a huge law firm. Huge.
[07:36.000 --> 07:43.000]  So, why they would contact me is still kind of up in the air.
[07:43.000 --> 07:55.000]  What is it I've got to offer that they, at this little ongoing education thing of theirs, that would cause a bunch of attorneys to invite me?
[07:55.000 --> 08:07.000]  Anyway, this is the email. Hi, my name is Daniel. I am a member of the Harris County Municipal Justice Bar Association. We are a group for Harris County traffic attorneys.
[08:07.000 --> 08:18.000]  Now, I don't know what that means as far as which side of the case they're on. But when I looked up their website, they do a lot of criminal defense.
[08:18.000 --> 08:26.000]  But don't forget, firms get contracted to come in and act as prosecutors just as much as they do defense.
[08:26.000 --> 08:36.000]  How they can do both and live with themselves after learning one way or the other, I don't know. But I'll discuss that in a minute.
[08:36.000 --> 08:43.000]  Anyway, the email continues. We have a continuing legal education seminar each February here in Houston.
[08:43.000 --> 08:51.000]  I would like to invite you to speak at our event this February. We usually have about 50 to 75 lawyers at each yearly meeting.
[08:51.000 --> 09:01.000]  Please contact me if you have any questions. Then his phone number, then his name, and what firm he works for.
[09:01.000 --> 09:09.000]  Now, this, of course, led me to ask myself several questions, and some of those I already started with, like why me?
[09:09.000 --> 09:25.000]  What is it they would hope for me to speak about? Or am I being brought in for them to get an idea of what the arguments are so that they can use them or try to find ways of defeating them?
[09:25.000 --> 09:36.000]  Or are they there just to attempt to start a discreditation scenario in which they try to run down everything I say or do?
[09:36.000 --> 09:51.000]  Not that it matters to me which of these they choose, because everything that I argue is based entirely on the law or the statutes that they forget or don't bother to read.
[09:51.000 --> 10:03.000]  The highest form of that, should it actually be ever accepted as still being in existence, of course, would be the Texas Constitution, which sits above anything that the legislature enacts.
[10:03.000 --> 10:14.000]  But since we're not under a constitutional system of law anymore, we're under a commercial system of law, this changes the aspects of what applies and what doesn't.
[10:14.000 --> 10:32.000]  You want to know why a judge tells you in these courts you can't use the Constitution here? Well, that, folks, is the answer, because the system of law they're operating under has nothing to do with the Constitution.
[10:32.000 --> 10:54.000]  It doesn't. Now, all of our rights are protected by it, provided we did not waive them by entering into some sort of nexus with these folks that allows them to say you can't use that as a defense or as a form of protection because you waived it by coming here.
[10:54.000 --> 11:05.000]  Now, I got news for you. This double standard on how all this is set up, you get one group of people saying, well, everything's a contract, well, fine.
[11:05.000 --> 11:14.000]  If that's the case, then there are certain legal realities to the terms of contracts and agreements that have to be observed.
[11:14.000 --> 11:28.000]  Problem is, they don't observe them. Well, if it's actually a criminal thing, then there are certain rules of the criminal side that they have to observe, but they don't observe them.
[11:28.000 --> 11:37.000]  If it's strictly civil, then there are rules on the civil side they have to observe, but they don't observe them.
[11:37.000 --> 11:50.000]  So just exactly where is our ability to know the rules by which to fight?
[11:50.000 --> 12:10.000]  Well, it's kind of a mixed bag. They've attempted to create a system that picks and chooses, cherry picks if you prefer, from each of these systems to give them the ability to rig the case in favor of the house.
[12:10.000 --> 12:15.000]  If we're going to use a Vegas scenario, we'll call the government the house.
[12:15.000 --> 12:40.000]  Okay. And you, as the patron in the casino, they have several jobs the moment you step in the front door, make you feel welcome, make you feel like everything is going to work out just fine, and to induce you to play as many of the games as possible with the highest odds in favor of the house.
[12:40.000 --> 12:49.000]  Now a lot of people, they just go stick to the one-armed bandits, and there is a reason they're called one-armed bandits. Okay.
[12:49.000 --> 12:57.000]  There are those that play cards, slots, roulette, poker, you name it. If there's a game to play, it's there.
[12:57.000 --> 13:10.000]  And they will lead you around by the nose and, you know, give you real cheap food and real cheap drinks and copy on rooms and everything else because their money is not made in running it like a hotel.
[13:10.000 --> 13:15.000]  Their money is made in getting you to play the games.
[13:15.000 --> 13:20.000]  Well, folks, that is where you live.
[13:20.000 --> 13:22.000]  You don't know it.
[13:22.000 --> 13:25.000]  Most of you will not be willing to accept it.
[13:25.000 --> 13:28.000]  And most of you will call it malarkey.
[13:28.000 --> 13:38.000]  But when you pay attention to what's being done and how it's being done, which you can only do if you know the rules of the game in both directions.
[13:38.000 --> 13:54.000]  For instance, you have to know what you are supposed to be, what your rights actually are, and what type of government you're supposed to actually have if everything were the way it was supposed to be.
[13:54.000 --> 13:57.000]  You have to know what that is.
[13:57.000 --> 13:58.000]  Why?
[13:57.000 --> 14:01.000]  Because that's your baseline comparison right there.
[14:01.000 --> 14:13.000]  If you don't know those things, then you don't see what's going on in this little wonderland they've built because you have no frame of reference.
[14:13.000 --> 14:15.000]  You have no baseline.
[14:15.000 --> 14:22.000]  So now, they get you to go and sign up for all the games.
[14:22.000 --> 14:23.000]  How?
[14:23.000 --> 14:29.000]  Well, they hand you all these applications for things, a license for this, a permit for that.
[14:29.000 --> 14:34.000]  You know, let's get you to sign up for this over here and blah, blah, blah.
[14:34.000 --> 14:36.000]  And pay your entry fee.
[14:36.000 --> 14:39.000]  And you can sit down and play the game for as long as you like.
[14:39.000 --> 14:40.000]  You just keep paying.
[14:40.000 --> 14:45.000]  You know, every once in a while we're going to come by and ask you to pay a fee in order to keep playing.
[14:45.000 --> 14:51.000]  But at the same time, if you violate the rules, there will be consequences.
[14:51.000 --> 14:56.000]  But as long as you keep paying, you can keep playing.
[14:56.000 --> 15:00.000]  And you do.
[15:00.000 --> 15:06.000]  You don't know what the game is, or at least you don't really know what the game is.
[15:06.000 --> 15:08.000]  You think you know what the game is.
[15:08.000 --> 15:14.000]  I mean, you go sit down at a card table in a casino and it says Blackjack on the sign.
[15:14.000 --> 15:25.000]  Right away, you're going to assume that there are certain rules by which Blackjack must be played.
[15:25.000 --> 15:31.000]  But did you forget to ask if there are any special local rules to the game in this particular casino?
[15:31.000 --> 15:39.000]  For instance, if there's a draw, does the house win or is it a dead hand?
[15:39.000 --> 15:44.000]  That can vary from casino to casino.
[15:44.000 --> 15:54.000]  It's a draw because nobody won, but the house automatically wins on a draw.
[15:54.000 --> 16:00.000]  And if you actually win, is there some consequence to winning that you don't know about?
[16:00.000 --> 16:05.000]  Like, for instance, does this house pay on Blackjack pay double down on the bet?
[16:05.000 --> 16:11.000]  This one over here only pays one and a half times on the bet and this one pays four times on the bet.
[16:11.000 --> 16:14.000]  Again, local rules.
[16:14.000 --> 16:17.000]  So even though you think you understand the rules of Blackjack,
[16:17.000 --> 16:22.000]  there will be these little nuanced rules that each location may have that makes them different.
[16:22.000 --> 16:26.000]  And if you don't know what's going on, you may think one minute you're getting cheated
[16:26.000 --> 16:30.000]  and you may think in the other minute you're doing really, really well.
[16:30.000 --> 16:37.000]  It's all a matter of perception and they do their very best to keep the perception favorable
[16:37.000 --> 16:42.000]  from your perspective even though it actually isn't.
[16:42.000 --> 16:45.000]  We'll cover a little bit more of that here on the other side when we get back.
[16:45.000 --> 16:50.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio calling number 512-646-1984.
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[19:36.000 --> 19:41.000]  Okay, now, what we're talking about at the moment is this email that I got
[19:41.000 --> 19:50.000]  regarding an invitation to come down and speak at this little get-together
[19:50.000 --> 19:56.000]  of this bunch of attorneys in Houston at what do they call it?
[19:56.000 --> 20:04.000]  Their Continuing Legal Education Seminar for the Harris County Municipal Justice Bar Association.
[20:04.000 --> 20:13.000]  Now, the website for this organization seems to be giving out a small amount of information
[20:13.000 --> 20:21.000]  regarding there's like, for instance, Houston has a new municipal court and so on and so forth.
[20:21.000 --> 20:27.000]  And let's see, there's a Texas Municipal Justice will be holding its annual CLE at the Ramada Inn.
[20:27.000 --> 20:36.000]  So I'm assuming, well, that was in August 17th, so that's a past news item for them.
[20:36.000 --> 20:45.000]  And let's see, they have an obituary up here for a judge that passed away back in 2011.
[20:45.000 --> 20:49.000]  So I don't know how often the page is updated.
[20:49.000 --> 20:53.000]  But in any case, this should be interesting.
[20:53.000 --> 20:59.000]  Me in a room with 50 to 75 lawyers.
[20:59.000 --> 21:03.000]  All of them talking about my favorite subject, of course.
[21:03.000 --> 21:08.000]  And so I kind of was thinking today, well, if I do go to this,
[21:08.000 --> 21:12.000]  and I'm not really sure what attorneys are going to be there,
[21:12.000 --> 21:14.000]  who they're going to work for and things like that.
[21:14.000 --> 21:16.000]  So I figured I'd kind of do something like this.
[21:16.000 --> 21:19.000]  First thing is I would ask a question like, okay,
[21:19.000 --> 21:23.000]  how many of you are actually county or district attorneys,
[21:23.000 --> 21:27.000]  or you know your county or district attorney?
[21:27.000 --> 21:30.000]  And see how many hands I get.
[21:30.000 --> 21:36.000]  And then I'll say, well, how many of you are municipal attorneys acting as prosecutors in the name of the state?
[21:36.000 --> 21:38.000]  See how many hands I get.
[21:38.000 --> 21:42.000]  Then I'm going to ask, okay, why are you people in the first group
[21:42.000 --> 21:48.000]  not pressing charges or prosecuting the people in the second group for impersonating public servants?
[21:48.000 --> 21:54.000]  It may go over like a turd in a punch bowl, but I will get everybody's attention real quick.
[21:54.000 --> 21:58.000]  From that point on, we'll see how it goes.
[21:58.000 --> 22:03.000]  But all in all, I think it would be rather interesting.
[22:03.000 --> 22:08.000]  So I'm going to give it a go if the invitation stands and maintains itself.
[22:08.000 --> 22:13.000]  I'll try this tomorrow or the next day to get in touch with this gentleman
[22:13.000 --> 22:20.000]  and ask him exactly what it is that they're expecting me to speak about and for how long.
[22:20.000 --> 22:27.000]  So I have some idea of what I need to focus on and see exactly where they intend to take this.
[22:27.000 --> 22:28.000]  It'll be interesting.
[22:28.000 --> 22:33.000]  But as I find out more, I will update you guys with more.
[22:33.000 --> 22:36.000]  Right now, I've got one caller up and I need some more.
[22:36.000 --> 22:41.000]  The call in number 512-646-1984.
[22:41.000 --> 22:46.000]  Right now, we're going to go to Larry in Missouri or Montana.
[22:46.000 --> 22:48.000]  Which one is it, Larry?
[22:48.000 --> 22:49.000]  It's Missouri.
[22:49.000 --> 22:50.000]  Missouri, okay.
[22:50.000 --> 22:51.000]  All right.
[22:51.000 --> 22:52.000]  What do you got?
[22:52.000 --> 22:53.000]  Hey, Eddie.
[22:53.000 --> 22:54.000]  How are you?
[22:54.000 --> 22:55.000]  I'm all right.
[22:55.000 --> 22:56.000]  Good.
[22:56.000 --> 22:57.000]  I had a couple of questions.
[22:57.000 --> 23:00.000]  But my first one was, can you please elaborate or shed some light?
[23:00.000 --> 23:07.000]  When I read the Missouri statutes and then my county ordinance on the subject of obeying
[23:07.000 --> 23:20.000]  lawful orders from peace officers and or sheriff's deputies, the term lawful order, I can't find
[23:20.000 --> 23:23.000]  definition to what that specifically entails.
[23:23.000 --> 23:26.000]  Well, it's a common sense situation.
[23:26.000 --> 23:28.000]  Here's the way this works.
[23:28.000 --> 23:37.000]  No public servant has the authority to do anything that is not authorized by law by use
[23:37.000 --> 23:38.000]  of force.
[23:38.000 --> 23:39.000]  Okay?
[23:39.000 --> 23:45.000]  If you just want a real common sense application of public servant authority, I think that
[23:45.000 --> 23:48.000]  would have to be the best definition I could give you.
[23:48.000 --> 23:56.000]  No public servant has the authority to use force in any manner if what he's attempting
[23:56.000 --> 24:01.000]  to exert the force toward is not something authorized by law.
[24:01.000 --> 24:07.000]  So, the first thing is to be a lawful order, there must be an authority for that order
[24:07.000 --> 24:09.000]  to be given in the law.
[24:09.000 --> 24:15.000]  Now, I'm not saying it has to be verbatim and I'm not saying it has to be order specific.
[24:15.000 --> 24:22.000]  It has to be related to some subject over which that individual public servant has been
[24:22.000 --> 24:29.000]  given a lawful authority and he must stay within the bounds of that lawful authority.
[24:29.000 --> 24:33.000]  If he exceeds it, he's acting outside its scope.
[24:33.000 --> 24:38.000]  If he's acting outside its scope, he is acting unlawfully.
[24:38.000 --> 24:45.000]  Therefore, that order need not be obeyed.
[24:45.000 --> 24:46.000]  Okay.
[24:46.000 --> 24:49.000]  The way you explained it makes a lot of sense.
[24:49.000 --> 24:58.000]  My second question, if you don't mind, the traffic stop script that you have at a federal
[24:58.000 --> 25:05.000]  installation, more specifically a DOD Department of Defense installation, how would that apply?
[25:05.000 --> 25:07.000]  Can we still...
[25:07.000 --> 25:08.000]  It doesn't.
[25:08.000 --> 25:17.000]  If you're on a DOD installation, they have authority over anything except actual crimes
[25:17.000 --> 25:24.000]  unless the land on which that installation sits has been ceded by the state in which
[25:24.000 --> 25:27.000]  it's located to the federal government.
[25:27.000 --> 25:32.000]  Otherwise, criminal authority remains in the state.
[25:32.000 --> 25:38.000]  You have to be under the jurisdiction of the federal government in order for that to apply.
[25:38.000 --> 25:44.000]  Now, when they say that they have jurisdiction because it's a federal installation, well,
[25:44.000 --> 25:48.000]  not true, not necessarily true.
[25:48.000 --> 25:49.000]  Okay.
[25:49.000 --> 25:56.000]  Again, the circumstances will determine what jurisdiction they've got.
[25:56.000 --> 26:02.000]  The script may or may not apply depending.
[26:02.000 --> 26:04.000]  This is more particular to...
[26:04.000 --> 26:06.000]  Well, you were in the military, the Air Force.
[26:06.000 --> 26:12.000]  When you come in on installations, they want to sometimes you do the random searches.
[26:12.000 --> 26:16.000]  Random people, they want to have you pull over, get out the car.
[26:16.000 --> 26:22.000]  They want to, quote, they call it an inspection, but it's really a search is what they do.
[26:22.000 --> 26:24.000]  So what are our rights?
[26:24.000 --> 26:26.000]  Your rights don't change.
[26:26.000 --> 26:32.000]  You have the option of not entering the installation, thus avoiding the search.
[26:32.000 --> 26:33.000]  Okay.
[26:33.000 --> 26:34.000]  Okay.
[26:34.000 --> 26:40.000]  But if you wish to enter it and they have rules that say, look, if you're coming in here,
[26:40.000 --> 26:44.000]  we're going to check and you have the option of saying, well, no, not without a warrant.
[26:44.000 --> 26:45.000]  You aren't.
[26:45.000 --> 26:47.000]  Well, then you can't enter.
[26:47.000 --> 26:49.000]  They're not violating your rights.
[26:49.000 --> 26:57.000]  They're basically just saying you don't access the privilege of the base without waiving those rights.
[26:57.000 --> 26:58.000]  Okay.
[26:58.000 --> 26:59.000]  It's pretty straightforward.
[26:59.000 --> 27:00.000]  That's what I thought.
[27:00.000 --> 27:02.000]  I just wanted to ask you just to clarify.
[27:02.000 --> 27:03.000]  Yeah.
[27:03.000 --> 27:04.000]  Okay, Eddie.
[27:04.000 --> 27:09.000]  And that's generally the way it's going to work out, especially if you're not active duty military without the stickers.
[27:09.000 --> 27:11.000]  Right.
[27:11.000 --> 27:12.000]  Right.
[27:12.000 --> 27:13.000]  Okay.
[27:13.000 --> 27:14.000]  Well, I appreciate it.
[27:14.000 --> 27:15.000]  That's all I have for tonight.
[27:15.000 --> 27:16.000]  Thanks a lot.
[27:16.000 --> 27:17.000]  You're welcome.
[27:17.000 --> 27:18.000]  Thanks for calling in.
[27:18.000 --> 27:19.000]  Okay.
[27:19.000 --> 27:20.000]  Thank you.
[27:20.000 --> 27:21.000]  Bye-bye.
[27:21.000 --> 27:22.000]  Bye-bye.
[27:22.000 --> 27:23.000]  Okay.
[27:23.000 --> 27:24.000]  That's my only caller, folks.
[27:24.000 --> 27:25.000]  And I still need some more.
[27:25.000 --> 27:26.000]  512-646-1984.
[27:26.000 --> 27:36.000]  Now, the interesting thing, like I say, about all this is I don't know where these attorneys
[27:36.000 --> 27:42.000]  heard about me or got my name, much less my email address.
[27:42.000 --> 27:45.000]  Maybe they have contact with Southern Poverty Law Center or something.
[27:45.000 --> 27:46.000]  I don't know.
[27:46.000 --> 27:48.000]  It'd be interesting to find out.
[27:48.000 --> 27:52.000]  And I'll try to get that information when I speak to this gentleman.
[27:52.000 --> 28:00.000]  But I just find it at this particular time, ironically odd.
[28:00.000 --> 28:01.000]  Okay.
[28:01.000 --> 28:03.000]  It's just odd.
[28:03.000 --> 28:06.000]  But I can do something with it.
[28:06.000 --> 28:07.000]  Okay.
[28:07.000 --> 28:10.000]  I just got another caller up on the board.
[28:10.000 --> 28:11.000]  This is Jason in Texas.
[28:11.000 --> 28:13.000]  Jason, what can we do for you?
[28:13.000 --> 28:14.000]  Hey, Eddie, man.
[28:14.000 --> 28:18.000]  Before I forget, right off the bat, I just want to – you probably don't get enough
[28:18.000 --> 28:19.000]  thank yous.
[28:19.000 --> 28:23.000]  I know you get some, but I just want to say thank you for what you do and the rest of
[28:23.000 --> 28:28.000]  them, Deborah and Randy and everybody else behind the scenes.
[28:28.000 --> 28:36.000]  But my question was for someone that's looking to add some audio and – well,
[28:36.000 --> 28:43.000]  mainly video, but – and or audio recording equipment to their automobile,
[28:43.000 --> 28:48.000]  could you share any, you know, places to work or manufacturers you recommend or
[28:48.000 --> 28:52.000]  types of equipment and also the placing of it?
[28:52.000 --> 28:55.000]  Well, that really just depends, one, on what your budget is.
[28:55.000 --> 28:59.000]  Two, what you actually want to do with the information as you collect it.
[28:59.000 --> 29:03.000]  I mean, because some of that stuff is expensive.
[29:03.000 --> 29:07.000]  It really just depends on what you can afford to do to protect yourself as to how
[29:07.000 --> 29:10.000]  it's going to boil down as to which I would choose.
[29:10.000 --> 29:13.000]  I mean, there's a great video on YouTube, this guy in California.
[29:13.000 --> 29:19.000]  He either got a lot of donations by the companies to market their products or he
[29:19.000 --> 29:26.000]  has got deep pockets because he outfitted his car to do everything except infiltrate
[29:26.000 --> 29:28.000]  the NSA's computer system.
[29:28.000 --> 29:32.000]  It will record everything from every direction, audio, video, the whole nine
[29:32.000 --> 29:33.000]  yards.
[29:33.000 --> 29:37.000]  And I'm sure based upon all the equipment he was naming off, that setup in his
[29:37.000 --> 29:39.000]  car wasn't cheap.
[29:39.000 --> 29:43.000]  But if you'll hang on just a second, Jason, I'll pick this up on the other side.
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[33:51.000 --> 33:54.000]  Now, let's go back to Jason in Texas.
[33:54.000 --> 33:56.000]  Jason, please continue.
[33:56.000 --> 34:03.000]  Well, no, I was just asking about any recommendations for the recording equipment, and I may have seen that video on YouTube you're talking about.
[34:03.000 --> 34:07.000]  I saw one where it was a black sports car.
[34:07.000 --> 34:10.000]  Yeah, a black Eclipse, Mitsubishi Eclipse.
[34:10.000 --> 34:21.000]  It had bulletproof glass, and I think he even had oil slicks set up to where if he decided to run, he could drop some oil slicks, which I don't necessarily recommend.
[34:21.000 --> 34:23.000]  Well, actually, it was smokers.
[34:23.000 --> 34:25.000]  He could set them up as smokers.
[34:25.000 --> 34:27.000]  Yeah, so I saw that video too.
[34:27.000 --> 34:29.000]  Okay, I just didn't know if...
[34:29.000 --> 34:35.000]  Yeah, I rigged a friend's of mine her car, the one that the young lady is getting pulled over all the time.
[34:35.000 --> 34:51.000]  I rigged hers up with two of those GoPro sports cameras that we wired them in where they actually are powered by the 12-volt system of her car, so she can pretty much leave them on all the time and just activate the record option when she needs to.
[34:51.000 --> 34:58.000]  And being powered like that, they'll run as long as the battery's going or the car's going, so we don't have to worry about battery life on them or anything like that.
[34:58.000 --> 35:00.000]  We just have to worry about filling up the card.
[35:00.000 --> 35:13.000]  And on those, I fitted them with 64-gigabyte professional series SD cards, which will basically take six hours at 1080p.
[35:13.000 --> 35:15.000]  Right.
[35:15.000 --> 35:28.000]  And I've heard of some people, I don't know anyone that's actually doing it, and it may have been something you mentioned on your show of wanting to get to the point to where we could have this stuff, you know, as it's recording real-time live,
[35:28.000 --> 35:40.000]  that it's being fed immediately to whether it's a Facebook page or a YouTube link so that, you know, let's say hypothetically they confiscate the car and demolish it, you know, just to make an extreme example.
[35:40.000 --> 35:43.000]  Well, that recording is already publicized.
[35:43.000 --> 35:44.000]  Yeah.
[35:44.000 --> 35:49.000]  We are writing an app to go with the Tauv Law website that will do exactly that.
[35:49.000 --> 35:55.000]  It will allow you to stream audio and video directly after our server over your phone.
[35:55.000 --> 36:04.000]  It will do notifications of people that you specifically select as well as those in your area about what's going on.
[36:04.000 --> 36:12.000]  They can reply back to you and let you know whether or not they're watching or they're going to come by and witness, all manner of things like that.
[36:12.000 --> 36:23.000]  We're hoping to do with this app to help the public get control of the situation over the cops and basically start making them feel like, well, we can't get away with what we've been doing anymore.
[36:23.000 --> 36:28.000]  There's just way too many cameras and no way to silence the video once it's out.
[36:28.000 --> 36:29.000]  Right.
[36:29.000 --> 36:30.000]  All right.
[36:30.000 --> 36:31.000]  Okay.
[36:31.000 --> 36:32.000]  Well, that's all I wanted to ask.
[36:32.000 --> 36:37.000]  And, man, you're the ninja master and I'm out here in training.
[36:37.000 --> 36:39.000]  And there's a lot of us.
[36:39.000 --> 36:41.000]  I think the numbers are growing.
[36:41.000 --> 36:50.000]  So just, you know, there's a lot of people you may not know that are out here that are picking up on these things.
[36:50.000 --> 36:52.000]  Well, I appreciate that, really.
[36:52.000 --> 36:53.000]  Okay.
[36:53.000 --> 36:54.000]  Thanks a lot.
[36:54.000 --> 36:55.000]  Thank you.
[36:55.000 --> 36:56.000]  Bye-bye.
[36:56.000 --> 36:57.000]  Bye-bye.
[36:57.000 --> 36:58.000]  All right.
[36:58.000 --> 37:00.000]  Now we're going to go to Jimmy in Maryland.
[37:00.000 --> 37:02.000]  Jimmy, what can we do for you?
[37:02.000 --> 37:03.000]  Hello.
[37:03.000 --> 37:04.000]  Okay.
[37:04.000 --> 37:05.000]  How are you doing?
[37:05.000 --> 37:06.000]  Good.
[37:06.000 --> 37:07.000]  So far.
[37:07.000 --> 37:08.000]  Good.
[37:08.000 --> 37:09.000]  I appreciate.
[37:09.000 --> 37:15.000]  I called you about two weeks ago and I appreciated your advice when I was actually about this status conference I had to go to.
[37:15.000 --> 37:18.000]  You nailed it right on the head.
[37:18.000 --> 37:24.000]  I mean, it was just the thing they're trying to reach some type of agreement that they aren't trying to pay.
[37:24.000 --> 37:28.000]  They want to pay something or take some type of plea bargain or something.
[37:28.000 --> 37:30.000]  And that's exactly what it was.
[37:30.000 --> 37:36.000]  My question tonight, I'm kind of concerned about this out for plea.
[37:36.000 --> 37:42.000]  You know much about out for pleas and when's the best time to use one or there's a time that you recommend not to do that?
[37:42.000 --> 37:43.000]  To do a what?
[37:43.000 --> 37:45.000]  An out for plea.
[37:45.000 --> 37:51.000]  It's a case of North Carolina versus Henry Alford back in 1970.
[37:51.000 --> 37:54.000]  Well, I haven't read the case so I don't know what it refers to enlighten me.
[37:54.000 --> 37:55.000]  Okay.
[37:55.000 --> 37:57.000]  Well, out for plea is not an admission of guilt.
[37:57.000 --> 38:04.000]  You're just taking advantage of an offer that the government gives you and, you know, you're only guilty for since the person.
[38:04.000 --> 38:11.000]  You pay whoever, you know, whatever the judge decides it is and then you can turn around and appeal the case without any,
[38:11.000 --> 38:17.000]  to get your money back with no threat of jail time.
[38:17.000 --> 38:19.000]  Okay.
[38:19.000 --> 38:23.000]  And this would help you how in this situation?
[38:23.000 --> 38:34.000]  This would help me how far if I did that, I can still bring the case up on appeal and there's no threat of me doing any jail time being convicted or probation or whatever like that.
[38:34.000 --> 38:35.000]  It takes with it.
[38:35.000 --> 38:36.000]  It leaves me at the top.
[38:36.000 --> 38:37.000]  Well, no, wait, wait, wait.
[38:37.000 --> 38:40.000]  How do you figure that it doesn't?
[38:40.000 --> 38:44.000]  Because, well, if you check it out, it's not an admission of guilt.
[38:44.000 --> 38:47.000]  You're just taking advantage of an offer.
[38:47.000 --> 38:48.000]  Right.
[38:48.000 --> 38:49.000]  But, I mean, here's the problem.
[38:49.000 --> 38:50.000]  Here's the problem.
[38:50.000 --> 38:58.000]  This sounds very much like the way they've got the statute set up here in Texas as far as the actual functionality and this is the way it works.
[38:58.000 --> 39:06.000]  In a court of no record or of record, but you want to, you don't want to do this in a court of record.
[39:06.000 --> 39:22.000]  In a court of no record, you can just plead guilty, pay your appeal bond, and then go to appeal for the plea in a trial de novo at the appeals level in the county court.
[39:22.000 --> 39:28.000]  But in a de novo, they're supposed to start over.
[39:28.000 --> 39:33.000]  Everything begins again, which to me is a very wasteful method of the system.
[39:33.000 --> 39:47.000]  The whole reason they did it that way, of course, was because the majority of people will pay rather than fight, and they did not want to bog down their really big court system with all these little petty ante things.
[39:47.000 --> 39:56.000]  So they created these little dip them in and throw them out courts to just take your money and say, fine, have a nice day.
[39:56.000 --> 40:09.000]  Now, technically, when you enter a plea of guilty, and then you ask for an appeal, your appeal is not automatic in any state.
[40:09.000 --> 40:21.000]  Unless your state constitution specifically says all appeals are automatically granted in any criminal case, they're not automatic.
[40:21.000 --> 40:30.000]  There has to be some form of appealable error for you to get the appeal.
[40:30.000 --> 40:39.000]  So how do you get appealable error from saying guilty?
[40:39.000 --> 40:52.000]  Okay, from my understanding, after reading about the Alford case, you're just taking advantage of an offer that it's not an admission of guilt. That's the thing about it. It's not an admission of guilt.
[40:52.000 --> 40:55.000]  You just take advantage of an offer that they're giving.
[40:55.000 --> 40:58.000]  Explain this offer one more time.
[40:58.000 --> 41:00.000]  I said it's not an admission of guilt.
[41:00.000 --> 41:08.000]  No, no, no. Explain the offer. What does this case involve that makes you look or make the court or anybody look at it like an offer?
[41:08.000 --> 41:15.000]  Well, I read a case where they said that's an offer of plea, it's not an admission of guilt.
[41:15.000 --> 41:23.000]  Okay. Well, is that a plea that's covered by statute in your state?
[41:23.000 --> 41:33.000]  Yeah, you have 30 days. If I did do that, it's actually written into the statute.
[41:33.000 --> 41:36.000]  It's actually written into the statute.
[41:36.000 --> 41:40.000]  Well, we've got 30 days to file an appeal.
[41:40.000 --> 41:56.000]  Wait, wait, wait. You're not answering my question. This plea that you're speaking of, where did it come from? What law authorizes its existence as a proper plea?
[41:56.000 --> 42:03.000]  The United States Court in the case of North Carolina v. Alford, 1970.
[42:03.000 --> 42:10.000]  So you're saying that case, but that's a federal case.
[42:10.000 --> 42:16.000]  United States Supreme Court.
[42:16.000 --> 42:21.000]  Okay. I need to read the case. I can't really answer your question without knowing the facts of the case.
[42:21.000 --> 42:22.000]  Okay.
[42:22.000 --> 42:27.000]  And the problem here is, is this the United States Supreme Court ruling on what law?
[42:27.000 --> 42:34.000]  There has to be some federal issue of a rights violation involved for it to get to the Supreme Court.
[42:34.000 --> 42:39.000]  It has to be involving a federally protected right or it has to be under a diversity jurisdiction.
[42:39.000 --> 42:46.000]  So what kind of case was this that they're deciding and what law are they deciding it based upon?
[42:46.000 --> 42:50.000]  Okay. I know it was a criminal case.
[42:50.000 --> 42:53.000]  What was this gentleman accused of?
[42:53.000 --> 43:04.000]  He was accused in 1963 of the death of, he was told to kill some individuals of some sort.
[43:04.000 --> 43:05.000]  So it was a murder case?
[43:05.000 --> 43:06.000]  Yes, a murder case.
[43:06.000 --> 43:09.000]  Okay. So we're dealing with state law.
[43:09.000 --> 43:12.000]  Okay. Which state?
[43:12.000 --> 43:13.000]  North Carolina.
[43:13.000 --> 43:21.000]  North Carolina. And what was the actual law in those days regarding pleas?
[43:21.000 --> 43:25.000]  Law regarding pleas in 63.
[43:25.000 --> 43:32.000]  No, not in 63. When it actually went to trial and the plea was supposed to be entered, what was it at that time?
[43:32.000 --> 43:38.000]  1970. I don't know. I'm looking at it online right now.
[43:38.000 --> 43:44.000]  Well, actually, I take that back. They probably would be able to do it under the law at the time it was committed.
[43:44.000 --> 43:47.000]  That's the way they're supposed to do it, not that they always do.
[43:47.000 --> 43:51.000]  But in any case, hang on, Jimmy. We'll pick this up on the other side, okay?
[43:51.000 --> 43:52.000]  Okay.
[43:52.000 --> 44:19.000]  All right. Terry, if you hang on too, I'll see you there. I'll be right back.
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[46:26.000 --> 46:32.000]  All right. We are talking to Jimmy in Maryland. All right, Jimmy, let's continue.
[46:32.000 --> 46:45.000]  Okay, I was reading here, the Alpha guilty plea is a plea of guilty containing a protestation of innocence.
[46:45.000 --> 46:53.000]  The defendant pleads guilty but does not have to specifically admit to the guilt itself.
[46:53.000 --> 47:03.000]  The defendant maintains a claim of innocence but agrees to the entry of a conviction and the charge cry.
[47:03.000 --> 47:10.000]  And then it says the defendant can take advantage of the ability to use the Alpha guilty plea by admitting
[47:10.000 --> 47:19.000]  that there is not any evidence of conviction, higher crime, while at the same time pleading guilty into a lesser charge.
[47:19.000 --> 47:24.000]  Okay, there's the answer to your beginning question then.
[47:24.000 --> 47:32.000]  The only time you can take the plea is when you can show that there isn't enough evidence to convict you on the original charge.
[47:32.000 --> 47:38.000]  Therefore, you're pleading down to take a lesser charge, which you're also not guilty of and they have no evidence of.
[47:38.000 --> 47:43.000]  But you're agreeing to do that anyway. Now, let me ask you a question.
[47:43.000 --> 47:50.000]  How brain dead do you have to be to understand they have no evidence to convict you under the original charge?
[47:50.000 --> 47:59.000]  Why in the heck would you agree to plea down and get convicted of a lesser charge rather than forcing them to dismiss the case for lack of evidence?
[47:59.000 --> 48:07.000]  Well, I was looking at the situation where you're filling the case without any jail time. You just get a defamation.
[48:07.000 --> 48:14.000]  That's not what the information you just gave me says. You have to plead guilty to a lesser offense,
[48:14.000 --> 48:22.000]  asserting that there is not enough evidence to convict you of the higher level offense.
[48:22.000 --> 48:27.000]  So if that's the charge they're making, they have the burden of proof.
[48:27.000 --> 48:34.000]  Why would you negate that requirement by saying, well, I'll just go ahead and plead guilty as long as you agree to charge me with something lesser than that?
[48:34.000 --> 48:44.000]  I know you can't prove it, but I'll go ahead and let you put me in jail or fine me for something lesser just because you can't prove your case on the original charge.
[48:44.000 --> 48:49.000]  I'll help you out here. Screw me over, and I'll volunteer.
[48:49.000 --> 48:53.000]  I know. I hear what you're saying.
[48:53.000 --> 49:00.000]  Not if there, well, somebody doesn't hear what I'm saying, if there is such a freaking case decision.
[49:00.000 --> 49:03.000]  How stupid was that guy?
[49:03.000 --> 49:12.000]  I don't know. I just thought I just asked a question, so I've got one that is not a misdemeanor that you can appeal, you know, you can appeal it later.
[49:12.000 --> 49:16.000]  Well, that specifically says it is an admission of guilt.
[49:16.000 --> 49:23.000]  But it's an admission of guilt, citing innocence of the other charge because they can't prove it.
[49:23.000 --> 49:29.000]  It doesn't say innocence because you didn't do it. It's innocence because they can't prove it.
[49:29.000 --> 49:33.000]  Well, if they can't prove it, why are you there in the first place?
[49:33.000 --> 49:39.000]  That's true. I hear you. I hear you.
[49:39.000 --> 49:45.000]  So that goes back to my question of how stupid was that guy?
[49:45.000 --> 49:49.000]  Yeah. I hear you.
[49:49.000 --> 49:55.000]  He had to have gotten advice from an attorney to take such a deal. He had to.
[49:55.000 --> 50:01.000]  Well, I didn't do it. I just was asking about it. I got wind of it and just thought I inquired if you ever heard of it before.
[50:01.000 --> 50:06.000]  I've never heard of it. And that's probably the reason why I've never heard of it.
[50:06.000 --> 50:11.000]  Nobody else would be dumb enough to think a client would buy that anymore.
[50:11.000 --> 50:15.000]  Hmm. Hmm.
[50:15.000 --> 50:23.000]  But then again, I've seen people buy some really stupid stuff from these courts, so I can't really say that that's true.
[50:23.000 --> 50:28.000]  Hmm. Okay.
[50:28.000 --> 50:33.000]  Okay. Well, I did the right thing because I didn't do it.
[50:33.000 --> 50:39.000]  Yeah, it sounds to me. Now, again, I'm basing it strictly on what you've told me so far. I still haven't read the case.
[50:39.000 --> 50:45.000]  But based upon the information given, yeah, you did the right thing.
[50:45.000 --> 50:53.000]  Yeah. Okay. Well, I got a court date December 11th where I got to fight and fight hard.
[50:53.000 --> 50:57.000]  And I booked your course and everything, and I'm going through things and got the judiciary.
[50:57.000 --> 51:03.000]  I'm going through this stuff. I'm going to fight hard and to the death, as far as I'm concerned.
[51:03.000 --> 51:07.000]  All right. When did you last get that?
[51:07.000 --> 51:13.000]  I went to my status hearing was on the 17th of October.
[51:13.000 --> 51:17.000]  No, no, no, no, no. When did you actually buy the seminar?
[51:17.000 --> 51:21.000]  Oh, about two, three weeks ago.
[51:21.000 --> 51:25.000]  Okay. Did I ever send you an email with the updated docs and everything?
[51:25.000 --> 51:29.000]  No. And I was like, I got to call them because I don't – no, no, no, no, no.
[51:29.000 --> 51:37.000]  Okay. Well, then send me the receipt that Deborah emailed you, and I will send you back the latest updated stuff that we have.
[51:37.000 --> 51:39.000]  Okay.
[51:39.000 --> 51:45.000]  Normally, I get copied on the emails, and as soon as I get it, I will send it out immediately.
[51:45.000 --> 51:51.000]  But I don't always get or see the email because I'm not always in front of the computer when it comes in,
[51:51.000 --> 51:55.000]  and it scrolls off the screen because of everything else pouring in above it.
[51:55.000 --> 51:59.000]  Okay. Okay. Will do.
[51:59.000 --> 52:00.000]  Okay.
[52:00.000 --> 52:01.000]  Appreciate it, Eddie.
[52:01.000 --> 52:02.000]  All right. Thanks.
[52:02.000 --> 52:03.000]  Keep up the good work.
[52:03.000 --> 52:04.000]  Appreciate it.
[52:04.000 --> 52:05.000]  Bye.
[52:05.000 --> 52:11.000]  We're going to go to Terrence in Tennessee. Terrence, what can we do for you?
[52:11.000 --> 52:13.000]  Oh, good evening, Eddie.
[52:13.000 --> 52:17.000]  Evening. By any chance, do you have a radio on in the background?
[52:17.000 --> 52:18.000]  No, I do not.
[52:18.000 --> 52:25.000]  Okay. We've got a slight echo. It's not real bad, but let's see if we can deal with it.
[52:25.000 --> 52:34.000]  Okay. I was wondering if – let me try this. Is that better?
[52:34.000 --> 52:37.000]  Yeah.
[52:37.000 --> 52:49.000]  Okay. I was calling to get your thoughts on – if you're in front of the judge and the judge says –
[52:49.000 --> 52:54.000]  you say, what are the nature of charges? And he'll say, well, it's a civil infraction.
[52:54.000 --> 52:59.000]  And then if you ask, was that a contract or a tort?
[52:59.000 --> 53:06.000]  And I'd like you to explain the difference between what a civil contract and a civil tort is.
[53:06.000 --> 53:11.000]  Well, it's breach of contract, which is a tort.
[53:11.000 --> 53:24.000]  A tort is anything involving a duty to do something and a failure to do that duty resulting in a harm to one of the parties to the agreement.
[53:24.000 --> 53:40.000]  That's a tort. And in contracts, that tort is either fraud or breach of contract or breach of fiduciary duty or something specifically contract-related.
[53:40.000 --> 53:51.000]  Now, in all contracts, there is – to the best of my analytics, I've thought and I've thought and I've thought about how many different ways there is to commit an actual crime with a contract,
[53:51.000 --> 53:55.000]  and I can come up with only one, and that's fraud.
[53:55.000 --> 54:05.000]  So fraud is the only one that could not only have civil but also criminal consequences.
[54:05.000 --> 54:14.000]  Okay. And they always bring you – they try you criminally, but they call it a civil, so it's always confusing everything.
[54:14.000 --> 54:18.000]  Wait, wait, wait. Who tries you criminally?
[54:18.000 --> 54:25.000]  If the burden of proof is –
[54:25.000 --> 54:28.000]  What kind of case are we talking about, Terrence?
[54:28.000 --> 54:29.000]  A speeding ticket.
[54:29.000 --> 54:33.000]  Okay. And we're talking about Tennessee courts?
[54:33.000 --> 54:35.000]  Tennessee or Florida or Georgia.
[54:35.000 --> 54:39.000]  Okay. Well, again, not all states treat them the same.
[54:39.000 --> 54:50.000]  While they are administrative, and that's easily provable if you look at the statutes and the state administrative codes properly, you will find that they are administrative.
[54:50.000 --> 55:07.000]  But the state has tried to give them a criminal bent in order to create revenue generation from it, because only through the criminal bent can they take it outside of their realm of application,
[55:07.000 --> 55:15.000]  which would be under most of these to the government entities themselves, which is the ones that are actually committing the crimes most of the time.
[55:15.000 --> 55:17.000]  But anyway, we digress on that.
[55:17.000 --> 55:26.000]  But some states treat traffic citations as civil, some as administrative, and some as criminal.
[55:26.000 --> 55:30.000]  California, for instance, is 100% administrative.
[55:30.000 --> 55:37.000]  Okay. Administrative is a form of civil, but it's different.
[55:37.000 --> 55:49.000]  The way you deal with it in an actual setting is completely different than a civil trial setting.
[55:49.000 --> 55:51.000]  You understand me so far?
[55:51.000 --> 55:54.000]  Yeah, although it's confusing.
[55:54.000 --> 55:59.000]  Boy, that's intentional.
[55:59.000 --> 56:03.000]  Not from my side, but from theirs.
[56:03.000 --> 56:07.000]  Right.
[56:07.000 --> 56:14.000]  But when they do these, like I was saying at the very beginning, they do it in a mixed bag.
[56:14.000 --> 56:22.000]  If you look at what kind of case it's supposed to be according to the statutes it's working under, it's administrative.
[56:22.000 --> 56:29.000]  If you look at how they are supposed to handle it, this state tries it as a criminal case, even though there's no way it can be criminal,
[56:29.000 --> 56:37.000]  and that one tries it as a civil case, even though it doesn't follow any of the civil rules.
[56:37.000 --> 56:50.000]  So if it should be administrative, shouldn't the accused necessarily have to be an employee of the administration?
[56:50.000 --> 56:55.000]  They would have to be someone subject to the administrative rules and procedures, absolutely.
[56:55.000 --> 57:02.000]  That doesn't necessarily have to be an employee, but they would be one of the entities that are.
[57:02.000 --> 57:07.000]  A contractor would be as well.
[57:07.000 --> 57:15.000]  They would have to have, as admitted to evidence, a contract between you and them.
[57:15.000 --> 57:16.000]  Okay, let's do that.
[57:16.000 --> 57:18.000]  Let's do that real quick.
[57:18.000 --> 57:21.000]  Do you have a driver's license?
[57:21.000 --> 57:24.000]  Yes, I do.
[57:24.000 --> 57:25.000]  I have a CDL.
[57:25.000 --> 57:26.000]  Okay.
[57:26.000 --> 57:28.000]  There's your agreement right there.
[57:28.000 --> 57:32.000]  You took a privilege, and you're bound by the rules associated with the privilege.
[57:32.000 --> 57:35.000]  They've proven that there's a contract.
[57:35.000 --> 57:37.000]  Between who?
[57:37.000 --> 57:46.000]  You possess the license, so it's between you and the state agency, thus giving the state egress into everything.
[57:46.000 --> 57:54.000]  Well, then I'd have to ask the state if my accuser is here to accuse me.
[57:54.000 --> 57:58.000]  The state being a legal entity must be represented by an attorney.
[57:58.000 --> 58:04.000]  That's who's standing in front of you.
[58:04.000 --> 58:10.000]  What tax revenue does he have to prove that he represents the state?
[58:10.000 --> 58:12.000]  He's an attorney.
[58:12.000 --> 58:14.000]  I don't care if he's a pumpkin.
[58:14.000 --> 58:17.000]  Hang on just a second, Terrence. We'll pick this up on the other side.
[58:17.000 --> 58:21.000]  All right, folks, this is our top of the hour break, so we'll be going on for a couple extra minutes.
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[01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:55.000]  Alright folks, we are back. We are talking to Terrence in Tennessee. Alright, Terrence.
[01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:56.000]  Yeah, I'm here.
[01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  Okay, let's go on.
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:08.000]  Well, I would object that the prosecutor represents and doesn't represent anyone except himself.
[01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.000]  And how would you make that assertion?
[01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:19.000]  Well, I asked him factually, he claims to represent the state. I asked him factually, what is the state?
[01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.000]  Okay, and if they give the correct answer?
[01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:26.000]  There is no correct answer. The state is just a figment of the imagination.
[01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:31.000]  The answer is, there's a proper answer.
[01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:32.000]  Why?
[01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:41.000]  He's a representative of the political body and entity of the people themselves who have been harmed by your actions, provided there actually is a harm associated.
[01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.000]  Now, is there in most of these cases? No.
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:52.000]  But if there were, they most assuredly have the proper power to assert that and to act.
[01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  If you're making that claim, then you're making the claim that you can't even punish murderers because no one has the authority to act.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:19.000]  That's the difference between an actual crime, malum inse, and one that isn't a crime, malum prohibitum.
[01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  The government was convened and created to do one thing and one thing only, exert a collective force for the sole purpose of protecting individual property and rights.
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:57.000]  Okay? When one person was not strong enough and capable enough of defending themselves against an aggressor because they were outnumbered, outgunned, or whatever, then the collective force of their neighbors on their behalf could be used to see that justice was done and the offender apprehended and prosecuted for their act.
[01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:08.000]  Somebody has to have the authority to come together with others and say, look, this is an injustice that needs to be corrected and to do so.
[01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:14.000]  Otherwise, it's a free for all, isn't it?
[01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:15.000]  Yes.
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:15.000]  Okay.
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:16.000]  I agree.
[01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  Again, someone has to have the authority to act. The question that should be asked is to what limit and under what conditions may such authority actually be exercised?
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:39.000]  Well, we established that it can only be exercised if there's an actual complainant that can demonstrate a palpable harm.
[01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:45.000]  When they act outside of that, then they're not acting on our behalf, they're acting on their own.
[01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:52.000]  But that still doesn't mean they're not going to make that assertion.
[01:06:52.000 --> 01:07:07.000]  Okay. So if he's representing the state, if the prosecutor is representing the state, then there must, there shall be some kind of harm upon a person or a person's property.
[01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:13.000]  Under the correct way of doing things, yes.
[01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:29.000]  So to defend yourself or to dismiss the charges, because you should not be there in the first place if there is no injury, damage, and deprivation of the right, you shouldn't be there in the first place.
[01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  Not for a criminal act, no.
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.000]  Or for civil or anything else.
[01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:41.000]  No, no, no. You can be civil, okay, because of a breach of contract.
[01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:50.000]  Then the right you're referring to is whatever is spelled out by the contract, but it's not necessarily a natural right.
[01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:55.000]  Correct. So me being the CDL holder...
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:05.000]  The problem with being the CDL holder is you've agreed to accept that privilege to engage in a particular activity.
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:12.000]  Therefore, you've agreed to the conditions that are prescribed for that.
[01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:16.000]  That's what the statutes are.
[01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  Correct. But being a CDL, being interstate, it should be a federal issue, not a local court issue.
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  No, no, no. Why in the world would you want the federal to have control over the roads and highways?
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:37.000]  Over the use of the roads and highways on a CDL?
[01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:49.000]  The authority is limited to interstate commerce, not what goes on in the state, despite what they want you to believe in what they do.
[01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:52.000]  They shouldn't have anything to do with the highways.
[01:08:52.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  They've never had anything except for paying the states to build them the way they wanted them, which they should have never been allowed to do.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000]  The state governments are so stupid.
[01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:11.000]  Let's give all our money to the federal government, and then we'll use what they give us as a kickback to do our actual business.
[01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:23.000]  Why? Keep your dad gum money, build your roads between each other the way you need to by agreement, and keep the federal government out of it.
[01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  Well, the reason I say that is if I'm licensed in Florida and I get a citation in North Carolina, I've got to travel to North Carolina for a court case, which makes it nearly impossible.
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:49.000]  It should be a federal issue where I could be at home in Florida in a federal court to dispute the North Carolina claim.
[01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:56.000]  But I shouldn't have to travel, if I was in California and got a citation in North Carolina, I shouldn't have to travel 2,000 miles for a court case.
[01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:00.000]  It should be a federal claim in the federal courts.
[01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  Well, but how would that change anything?
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  Because the federal courts only have jurisdiction over a particular area, and it may not be the area you're in.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  The whole issue here comes down to this.
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:37.000]  In order for the Fed to be kept out of this, every state, and the federal Constitution said the same thing in what it says, that all crimes are to be tried within the venue of the state where it was committed, period.
[01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  But it's not a crime.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:56.000]  Well, if the state's categorizing it that way, and that's why they're getting away with it, okay, because if it was civil, now you've got diversity jurisdiction issues, now they don't have a choice if you decide to go federal.
[01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:10.000]  But on criminal, this is how they managed to lock it in where they could steal money locally and keep it, and thus cut their cost on having to prosecute it.
[01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.000]  This is all part of the agreement, the way it's been arranged.
[01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:22.000]  That's why every state has an interstate license compact, or almost every state.
[01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:36.000]  There's only a handful of them that didn't sign on to that agreement, but they've created their own license requirements and everything within that state, and either administratively, civilly, or criminally defined those as well.
[01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.000]  But it doesn't change who has jurisdiction over them.
[01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:45.000]  Whether or not it should be charged as a crime is secondary to your argument right now.
[01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:51.000]  The argument we're discussing here is jurisdiction.
[01:11:51.000 --> 01:12:07.000]  So the state where the actual act occurred has jurisdiction, period, especially if it is a crime or defined as a crime.
[01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.000]  Even though it is not a crime.
[01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:15.000]  Well, if you go by the common law aspect of what constitutes a crime, that's correct.
[01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:23.000]  But the legislators have taken that and created, and the courts have condoned it, which was wrong, but they did it.
[01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:27.000]  They've condoned it as something that's viable.
[01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:42.000]  Some legislator can say, that should be illegal, and the right of law, and now it's illegal, even though they can't point to anybody that was injured as a result of the act that they've now outlawed.
[01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:46.000]  Well, the legislature is being 50% lawyers, mostly, and the court...
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:47.000]  Yeah.
[01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:53.000]  So your first argument should be, is how many lawyers are sitting in your state legislature?
[01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  Too many.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:55.000]  Okay.
[01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  Well, how many of them surrendered their bar card to serve in the legislature?
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  Probably none.
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.000]  Okay.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:04.000]  And how many of them voted on the bill in question?
[01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.000]  Every one of them.
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  So that would mean there was never a legal quorum to pass the bill, because the separation of power says one jurisdiction of the government can't operate under the powers and authority of another jurisdiction of the government, meaning department or branch.
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:27.000]  The executive can't act like the judicial, in other words, and vice versa.
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:44.000]  So how can a judicial officer, which every attorney is, act as a legislative officer for the purpose of passing laws and voting on them, and not violate the state constitution separation of powers requirement?
[01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:50.000]  And our task is to get them to punish themselves.
[01:13:50.000 --> 01:14:03.000]  Well, I don't know what you would define our task as other than getting rid of the system that these lawyers have corruptly concocted to benefit themselves at the expense of the rest of us.
[01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:21.000]  Ninety-nine percent of this stuff that is a fine-only offense was done to benefit the lawyers financially, and for no other reason. It's got nothing to do with public safety, health, and welfare. It has to do with money.
[01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:31.000]  You can always make a public health and safety argument by saying, well, what if, or there could be, or one day there might.
[01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:39.000]  Well, one day there might be a lawyer that comes out into the world without his head shoved up his butt, but I haven't seen one yet.
[01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  It's not that it's up his butt. It's in his pocket.
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:47.000]  No, that's where his hands are, except that's your pockets.
[01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.000]  Yeah.
[01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  And then the judge and everybody else.
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  Okay. This is about benefiting their private interests, not about anything else.
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:11.000]  They could give me virtually any statute they've got, and I can argue just as much against it being for public safety as they can try to argue for it being for public safety.
[01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:23.000]  Because I can show you penal statutes that would do the same job, and it wouldn't allow them to interfere in your life until the act had actually occurred.
[01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:34.000]  That's the problem. They don't want to have to clean up. They want to be preventative, and we never gave them that power.
[01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:43.000]  However, you're operating under an agreement. Whether you accept that or not is irrelevant. The facts are you are.
[01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  The only thing you can assert is that you were not operating under the terms of the agreement at the time and forced them to prove that you were.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.000]  And that's where the study comes in.
[01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:05.000]  Yeah, that's definitely where the study comes in.
[01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  But you can't be a doctor without having to study a whole other.
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:15.000]  No, you can be a doctor. You can be a doctor. Go ahead and be a doctor.
[01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:20.000]  But the problem you're going to have is you're going to be very easy to be sued.
[01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.000]  You're going to have to comply with all the regulations.
[01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  And then there's going to be certain consequences if you can't prove up what you have to do to live under those regulations.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:35.000]  Like, you know, you have an actual medical degree and so on and so forth.
[01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  Okay?
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  Well, thank you very much.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:41.000]  All right, Karen, thanks for calling in. Woody, Brian, I see you there on the board.
[01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:45.000]  Y'all hang on. I'll pick you guys up on the other side. Jacob, you as well.
[01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:49.000]  All right. Call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.000]  We'll finish this stuff on the other side.
[01:16:51.000 --> 01:17:01.000]  So y'all hang on and we will be right back.
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[01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:38.000]  Now, let's go to our next caller, which is Woody in Texas.
[01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:41.000]  Woody, what can we do for you?
[01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:42.000]  Well, good evening, Eddie.
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:43.000]  Good evening.
[01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.000]  I'll try to keep this brief.
[01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:52.000]  About three years ago, a little over three years ago, I received a traffic ticket here in Texas and got for a legal U-turn.
[01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.000]  I hired one of those so-called traffic lawyers.
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  All was fine until May of 2013.
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:03.000]  I was summoned to court, went with my lawyer, but it was postponed.
[01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:10.000]  Several days ago, Eddie, I received a letter advertisement from another lawyer saying I had missed my court date.
[01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  Of course, that got me all hot and bothered.
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  And so I went to my lawyer's today, and he wasn't there, of course, and I went back.
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:26.000]  And again, that was after I had gotten home and had received the official letter from the city of Fort Worth today
[01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.000]  that I had had a warrant issued for my arrest.
[01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:34.000]  I have received no notification from the city or my lawyer, et cetera.
[01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:37.000]  So again, I had missed court.
[01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:47.000]  So I got an assistant to prepare me a bail warrant, which I didn't even know wasn't available because I sure didn't want to go to jail.
[01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:52.000]  And anyway, what concerns me the most is there's a statute in Texas.
[01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  I can't remember the exact name of it, but two years should be the time period for that.
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:20:59.000]  So...
[01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:03.000]  There's no statute of limitations when a warrant is active.
[01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.000]  Oh, goodness gracious.
[01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:09.000]  Yeah, well, they got me then in the spider web.
[01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:17.000]  How effective is this bail warrant that I took out supposedly to keep me out of supposedly getting arrested?
[01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.000]  I've never heard of something called a bail warrant.
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:26.000]  What I've heard of is called a bond, an appearance bond or a surety bond.
[01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:27.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.000]  Yeah.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:34.000]  Well, again, I guess this has started things all over again, has it not?
[01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:35.000]  Is this the...
[01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:36.000]  Well, that depends.
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  When was the warrant actually issued?
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:41.000]  Two days ago, it looks like.
[01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  Okay.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:44.000]  When was the ticket issued?
[01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:49.000]  The ticket was issued over 40 months ago, May of 2010.
[01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  When was the complaint issued?
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  My knowledge of complaint is limited.
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:57.000]  I'm sorry.
[01:21:57.000 --> 01:21:58.000]  I don't know what...
[01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:59.000]  Okay.
[01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  How close are you to where the ticket was issued?
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  Oh, as far as proximity?
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  Yeah.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:08.000]  Same city.
[01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:09.000]  Okay.
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  That's a place.
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:13.000]  How close are you to the place?
[01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:20.000]  My knowledge was, I'm sorry, you got me there, probably 12 miles.
[01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:21.000]  Okay.
[01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  Well, I mean, we don't have to be exact.
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:24.000]  Is it easily accessible?
[01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:25.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:26.000]  Okay.
[01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:32.000]  Go to the court, ask to see everything that's in the record and to have a copy of it.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.000]  Do not answer any questions.
[01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:42.000]  Just simply say, look, I am here to look at the public record and I wish to see this case related to this ticket.
[01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  Get a copy of everything that's in the record.
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:47.000]  Okay?
[01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:48.000]  Okay.
[01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:56.000]  If there is no complaint and do not ever say the word complaint while you're there, don't tell them what you're looking for.
[01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  Just tell them I wish to see the court record associated with this case.
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:03.000]  Get everything in it.
[01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:05.000]  See if there's a complaint.
[01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:11.000]  If there is one, see when it was signed, dated, and file stamped by the court.
[01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  If there is no court stamp on it showing that it was received on a certain date and time, it is not officially filed in the record.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:32.000]  Now, if there has never been a complaint properly filed, the statute of limitations is gone.
[01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:33.000]  They're finished.
[01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  It's over.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.000]  Because they only have two years to file the complaint.
[01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:50.000]  Then they only have a few months from the time the complaint is filed and a fine only misdemeanor in which to actually go to trial.
[01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:59.000]  If they didn't, then they've waived everything and that's also over.
[01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:02.000]  So you've got multiple defenses based upon what's there.
[01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:08.000]  Now, if there is an actual warrant, when was it actually issued?
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.000]  Let's say two days ago.
[01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.000]  That may or may not be true.
[01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  But now that you've filed a surety bond, that warrant will be considered executed or withdrawn, in which case it has to be filed into the record with everything else.
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:30.000]  So make sure you get a copy of that as well so you can prove when it was actually signed.
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:31.000]  Okay?
[01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:32.000]  Okay.
[01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:36.000]  Now, here's what you're looking for, dates.
[01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:42.000]  Outside the statute of limitations of two years on the date the complaint was signed, they're screwed.
[01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:53.000]  If the complaint was signed immediately after the ticket was issued, but they did nothing for that entire time, they're screwed.
[01:24:53.000 --> 01:25:05.000]  Had you actually been arrested on this warrant and those two prior conditions, one of which existed, were there, they would be really screwed and you would get the suit.
[01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:16.000]  But as it stands right now, you don't need a lawyer, you just need to go down and say dismiss the case for failure to provide a speedy trial and failure to prosecute.
[01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:21.000]  Or you're outside of your statute of limitations.
[01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  You can use them all.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:25.000]  Okay?
[01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:29.000]  Outside of time period is what you said.
[01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:30.000]  I'm sorry, I'm trying to write that down.
[01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:32.000]  Outside of the statute of limitations.
[01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.000]  Okay?
[01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:35.000]  Failure to provide a speedy trial.
[01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  Failure to provide a speedy trial.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:42.000]  Failure to prosecute.
[01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:43.000]  All of those work.
[01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:46.000]  When I go down there, do I need to take anybody?
[01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:47.000]  Absolutely.
[01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:51.000]  You always take somebody with you and you take something that records.
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:52.000]  Okay.
[01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:53.000]  What if they tell me I can't record?
[01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.000]  You don't tell them you're recording.
[01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.000]  You turn it on before you go in the building.
[01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:00.000]  You put it in a pocket and you go in and do your thing.
[01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:01.000]  Okay.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.000]  And I go to the clerk's office, is that correct?
[01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:08.000]  Clerk of the court where the case was supposed to be tried, yes.
[01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:09.000]  Okay.
[01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:15.000]  And I guess I can find out where the court is because they had a different sub courthouse
[01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.000]  that I've been told, so I need to find out where that was.
[01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:19.000]  Well, do yourself a quick favor, though.
[01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:22.000]  You're still talking to this lawyer, right?
[01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:23.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:24.000]  Okay.
[01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.000]  Take your little recorder and go have a conversation with your lawyer.
[01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:29.000]  Don't mention me, don't mention anything.
[01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  Just ask these specific questions.
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.000]  Okay.
[01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:37.000]  One, what do you intend to do about my case?
[01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:41.000]  Two, why are you not challenging statute of limitations?
[01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:47.000]  Three, why have you not challenged statute of limitations and failure to provide a speedy
[01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:54.000]  trial and failure to prosecute based upon the date on the complaint?
[01:26:54.000 --> 01:27:02.000]  Four, why didn't you have the warrant quashed when you knew or should have known that they
[01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.000]  couldn't prosecute this case and the warrant was invalid because it was outside of the
[01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.000]  statute of limitations?
[01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:09.000]  Wow.
[01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  And lastly, how many bar grievances would you like me to write against you for each
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.000]  of these if you don't refund the money I paid you?
[01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:24.000]  Let me ask you one other question.
[01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  Shall I leave the prosecution out of this as far as prosecute?
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.000]  Prosecutors got nothing to do with it.
[01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:30.000]  Nothing to do with it.
[01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:31.000]  Okay.
[01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:32.000]  All right.
[01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:36.000]  Now make sure you record that conversation with your attorney because I would love to
[01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.000]  hear him try to backpedal his way out of this one.
[01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.000]  I'll do it.
[01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:45.000]  Now make sure you go down and get copies of everything in the record first so you walk
[01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:50.000]  into his office with ammo and do not, under any circumstances, give him copies or the
[01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  copies of what you take.
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:55.000]  In fact, I would recommend that whatever you get from the clerk of the court, you tell
[01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:59.000]  her you want certified copies of it, everything.
[01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:00.000]  Certified copies.
[01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.000]  Certified copies.
[01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:06.000]  Now they are admissible on their own because they have a state seal on them.
[01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:07.000]  Okay.
[01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:10.000]  Now the quickest way for me to find out what courthouse and everything would be where,
[01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:12.000]  how do I find out?
[01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:15.000]  What does the ticket say?
[01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  That I don't believe I have a copy of.
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:19.000]  Okay.
[01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  Well, then call your attorney's office and say what city is this supposed to be in and
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:24.000]  what court?
[01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.000]  Or what court is this supposed to be in in the city?
[01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  Is it a JP?
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:29.000]  Is it a municipal?
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:30.000]  What is it?
[01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  Maybe I'll just get a copy of the previous thing that they say that I missed and that
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:35.000]  will tell me.
[01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:37.000]  That would be great.
[01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:38.000]  Yeah, maybe.
[01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:39.000]  Okay.
[01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:43.000]  I'll just get a copy of the so-called missed court date.
[01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:44.000]  Okay.
[01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:45.000]  Fantastic, Eddie.
[01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:46.000]  I really appreciate it.
[01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:47.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:48.000]  Not a problem.
[01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:49.000]  Okay.
[01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:50.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:51.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  All right.
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.000]  Now we're going to Brian in California.
[01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:56.000]  Brian, what can we do for you?
[01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.000]  You've got about a minute before I have to, or a half a minute before I've got to cut
[01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:01.000]  you off and go to break.
[01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  No problem, Eddie.
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  I wanted to thank you for helping us out and I wanted to talk to you.
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:11.000]  Everything you brought up today has basically happened to me in a case and I wanted to reiterate
[01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:18.000]  everything with you, throw the kitchen sink at you on a case that happened to me and show
[01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:22.000]  everybody how it all basically comes to light, you know, together.
[01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.000]  All right.
[01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  Sound good?
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:26.000]  Sounds great.
[01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:27.000]  All right.
[01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:29.000]  I'll fold and come back from the break.
[01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:30.000]  Okay.
[01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:31.000]  Well, you're good because here's the music.
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  All right.
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:33.000]  Thank you.
[01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:34.000]  All right.
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[01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:29.000]  We're going to go back to Brian in California.
[01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:30.000]  All right, Brian.
[01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:31.000]  Okay, yeah.
[01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:33.000]  I have an interesting scenario here.
[01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:39.000]  I was at my parents' house and I was visiting them and the electric company sent out a contractor
[01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.000]  to swap out an electric meter.
[01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:48.000]  The electric meter guy that came, the contractor, he entered the property and was trying to
[01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:51.000]  enter a utility closet and I thought it was a burglar.
[01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:56.000]  So I went outside to confront the burglar and it was the contractor.
[01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:02.000]  So instead of doing any kind of harm to the contractor or anything like that, I simply
[01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  questioned him and asked him, you know, could I have your credentials?
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  And he gave me some credentials, but he couldn't provide me a work order.
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:16.000]  And we got into a verbal argument and I told him I'd call his boss and I told him to leave the property.
[01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:22.000]  And 20 minutes later I get a knock on the door and the sheriff's department wants to talk to me.
[01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:31.000]  So I took your advice and the advice of people like you and I didn't answer the door or talk to the police.
[01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:35.000]  And I want to reiterate what you said before.
[01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:43.000]  When you don't talk to them, the testosterone level goes up and the IQ goes down and they start to make
[01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:46.000]  mistakes, in my opinion.
[01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:49.000]  And I wanted to thank you for that advice.
[01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.000]  You're welcome.
[01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:58.000]  One of the things that's interesting in my case is that in California, you're allowed, if you're a male,
[01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:09.000]  if you identify as a female, you're allowed to go down to the DMV and change your license or ID or apply as a female.
[01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:20.000]  So Eddie can be male, say that he identifies as a female, and the California DMV will issue you a female
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:23.000]  driver's license or ID.
[01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:37.000]  Now, in my scenario, because I didn't speak to them, they went ahead and issued a six-pack lineup for the person
[01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.000]  that made the complaint.
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  And in the six-pack lineup, they say that they used my California ID for the photo.
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:54.000]  But my California ID clearly says that I'm female, but the five fillers were males.
[01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  So can you tell me if that is possible?
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.000]  Can they do that?
[01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.000]  And how come nobody ever questioned me?
[01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:11.000]  There was never a hearing to determine my true gender or to see if that ID was even correct or fictitious.
[01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:14.000]  I'm not really sure how to answer your question.
[01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  Yeah, and nobody can.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:17.000]  Okay.
[01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:22.000]  They went strictly by the visible identity of the picture itself would be my guess,
[01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:28.000]  not the information that was in their estimation obviously incorrect on the rest of the ID.
[01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.000]  Yes, I would assume that is correct, yes.
[01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  Okay.
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:34.000]  So given that...
[01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:37.000]  The ID of the gentleman IDing me was their ID, you know?
[01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:39.000]  The picture was what he IDed, you know?
[01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:40.000]  Yeah.
[01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  Yeah, regardless of what the gender was.
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:53.000]  But my point is if you've got a female suspect and a female ID, can you put male fillers?
[01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:54.000]  That's irregardless.
[01:36:54.000 --> 01:37:02.000]  In my opinion, it should have been female fillers and he should have picked me if he knew it was me.
[01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:05.000]  You really want that kind of lineup?
[01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.000]  Well, I'm asking you.
[01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:14.000]  The question here is if he IDed you in the picture and to their impression the picture represents male,
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.000]  then that's what they're going to use.
[01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:24.000]  But my question is if you didn't physically touch this gentleman, where is the lineup coming from?
[01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.000]  Well, that's another question.
[01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  And again, because I didn't talk to them, they got so mad.
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:41.000]  And my question to you is that when in the initial incident report,
[01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:49.000]  it says that the initial officer saw absolutely no physical harm or injury to the complaining person.
[01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:50.000]  Okay.
[01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.000]  It's not a question of what he saw.
[01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:54.000]  What did the guy tell him?
[01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  Oh, the guy told the complaining officer that I pushed him once and knocked his hat off.
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  No, excuse me.
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:04.000]  In the initial report, he told him I knocked his hat off.
[01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  Okay.
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:06.000]  Did you touch the guy?
[01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:07.000]  No, I did not.
[01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:08.000]  I actually had a broken foot.
[01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:12.000]  Okay. Is there a security camera in the area where you're at?
[01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  I don't have one personally, but we live in a gated community,
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:22.000]  so I know that there's probably a camera where he entered, but I'm not sure if anybody had a camera in the area.
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  Okay.
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:25.000]  Well, that's where the problem is going to come from.
[01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:28.000]  They're simply going to assert that, yeah, you did it.
[01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  And what size are you compared to this guy?
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:40.000]  He's 5'7", maybe 180 pounds, and I'm 5'10", 195.
[01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:41.000]  Okay.
[01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  So he can very easily assert, even with a broken foot, you were feeling froggy, so to speak.
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:47.000]  Yeah, I understand.
[01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  So without something, that's going to be very hard to prove one way or the other.
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:55.000]  But the fortunate thing is, is it's one guy's word against another.
[01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:56.000]  Yes.
[01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:57.000]  They can't prove anything.
[01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:58.000]  Right. I understand that.
[01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:03.000]  But because of the accusation, now law enforcement, true,
[01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:06.000]  they're probably doing it out of spite because you wouldn't talk to them.
[01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:07.000]  Correct.
[01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  But since they have to deal with the issue, this is the way you've left them to deal with it.
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:13.000]  Right. I understand.
[01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:16.000]  So what else is the question then?
[01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:17.000]  Well...
[01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:23.000]  They did a lineup based upon what physical description and picture evidence they have that you're male.
[01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  Right. I understand.
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:25.000]  Okay.
[01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:31.000]  Their baseness upon a complaint of simple assault by one individual against another,
[01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:34.000]  whether that's true or not, has to be proven.
[01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  Correct.
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:39.000]  So if there's no proof, how do they go ahead to issue a warrant?
[01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:40.000]  Why would it...
[01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  Because there's an accusation.
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:43.000]  Because there's an accusation.
[01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:44.000]  Okay.
[01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:47.000]  So at arraignment, if I plead not guilty...
[01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:50.000]  If you plea at all, then you're hosed anyway.
[01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:51.000]  Pardon me, sir?
[01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:53.000]  Why would you enter a plea?
[01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:56.000]  One, have you had a complaint served on you?
[01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:58.000]  Correct.
[01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:00.000]  I didn't enter a plea.
[01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:05.000]  What I did is I did some research on the contractor, and I found out that the contractor was not licensed.
[01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  I went to the administrative law judge that regulates the power company,
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:15.000]  and I found out that that person that came to my property was not licensed.
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  And because of that, I felt that that person had been trespassing.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.000]  Okay.
[01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  You didn't know that at the time, therefore it's not going to be relevant to the issue.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:25.000]  Okay.
[01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:26.000]  Okay.
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:27.000]  And I'm wondering...
[01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  What can be relevant...
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  I'm wondering why they excluded that, why they wouldn't hear that.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  That's why I'm asking.
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.000]  Because it's not related to the facts of the case.
[01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  Okay.
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:39.000]  The accusation here is one guy pushed another guy.
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:40.000]  Okay.
[01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:44.000]  So your counter accusation and complaint needs to be what?
[01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:48.000]  Criminal trespass, if there's such a statute where you're at.
[01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:49.000]  Okay.
[01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:50.000]  Okay.
[01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:53.000]  The guy had no business on the property, and here's how I can prove it.
[01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  Not a licensed electrician or certified to do this job.
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.000]  He had no business being there.
[01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  Yeah.
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:01.000]  That was my argument.
[01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  But you're telling me what my proper thing was to do was to make a counter criminal complaint.
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:06.000]  Correct.
[01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:07.000]  Correct.
[01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:11.000]  You can't use what you have in direct rebuttal to what he's asserting.
[01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:14.000]  You have to complain against him to counter his complaint.
[01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:15.000]  Okay.
[01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  Well, see, you've taught me something that my attorney didn't tell me.
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:19.000]  Well, of course your attorney didn't tell you.
[01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:21.000]  That's his job, and he ain't going to do it.
[01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:22.000]  He just wants your money.
[01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:23.000]  Exactly.
[01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  Exactly.
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:25.000]  You're right.
[01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  And that's why I want to bring these things up to tell people this.
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:28.000]  Because now all the light comes on.
[01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.000]  That's what I'm trying to get to here, Eddie.
[01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:31.000]  Yeah.
[01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:33.000]  Your biggest problem, however, is going to wind up being time.
[01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.000]  How long has it been since this occurred?
[01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  And the next question they're going to ask you is why did you wait so long to complain?
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:39.000]  Well.
[01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:40.000]  Exactly.
[01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:41.000]  But there's...
[01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:47.000]  Now, another quick question is the judge that does the arraignment, is he supposed to also be your trial judge
[01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:49.000]  if you tell the arraignment judge I want a trial?
[01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:50.000]  No.
[01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:51.000]  No.
[01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:54.000]  There's required to be separate judges for two reasons.
[01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:55.000]  Okay.
[01:41:55.000 --> 01:42:02.000]  One, the first thing is the judge can't be impartial if he's the one that took the plea.
[01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:03.000]  Okay.
[01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:04.000]  Okay.
[01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.000]  And so on and so forth.
[01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:10.000]  Now, if you plead guilty, he can stop what he's doing right there.
[01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:14.000]  But a lot of times they will be the same judge.
[01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:15.000]  Okay.
[01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:23.000]  My next question so you can get to the next caller is when I went for my trial and I had a stack of paperwork
[01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:28.000]  the size of the Bible to throw at them and I had a different prosecutor than from the arraignment,
[01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:35.000]  he said, I'm not going to look through your paperwork for all of this such a nonsense small little petty thing.
[01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:41.000]  He pulled the other guy aside that was making the accusation against me.
[01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:50.000]  Then he left the courtroom and then they gave me a plea of just a plea bargain of just disturbing the peace.
[01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:57.000]  And I told my attorney, no, I don't want to do that.
[01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:58.000]  I want a trial.
[01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:02.000]  Then they gave me the old, well, we can't find a judge for you.
[01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  And I said, all right, I'll wait.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:09.000]  And they made me wait about three or four hours with my attorney and they said, well, we don't have a judge for you.
[01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:11.000]  I said, well, then give me my arraignment judge.
[01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:14.000]  And they said, all right, let me see if we can find him.
[01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.000]  Then they wouldn't give me the arraignment judge.
[01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:26.000]  Then they finally came in with the commissioner and a commissioner wanted to make a plea with me for disturbing the peace.
[01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:32.000]  No fine or, you know, nothing like that.
[01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  I didn't have to plead guilty.
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:39.000]  I came back after taking some anger management classes and they dismissed the case.
[01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:40.000]  Okay.
[01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  All right, Brian, hang on.
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.000]  We're going to bring this up and finish it.
[01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:46.000]  I've only got a minute to finish up with you on the other side, okay?
[01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:47.000]  I understand.
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[01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.000]  All right, Brian, let's wrap this up.
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:23.000]  Yeah, one quick question.
[01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:29.000]  You told me that I would have to file a criminal complaint, a counter-complaint.
[01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:34.000]  Would that be tied into my complaint or would that be a separate complaint?
[01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:37.000]  Okay, that is your complaint.
[01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:39.000]  What do you mean tied to your complaint?
[01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:42.000]  Well, the complaint against me, state versus me.
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:46.000]  It's one they'll cancel each other out is the point here.
[01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:47.000]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:50.000]  They can't prove their side of the case that you shoved him.
[01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:51.000]  Right.
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  But you can prove he criminally trespassed and had no authority to be there by having
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:59.000]  documentation that proves he's not certified and licensed.
[01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:02.000]  So I need to go to the police and file a complaint?
[01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:03.000]  Absolutely.
[01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:04.000]  Okay.
[01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:06.000]  I'm here to file a complaint against this guy.
[01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:08.000]  He trespassed on my property.
[01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.000]  Don't bring up the other case.
[01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:11.000]  Correct.
[01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:12.000]  Don't bring up the other complaint.
[01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:13.000]  Right.
[01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:14.000]  Get yours filed.
[01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:18.000]  If you say anything else, they're going to try to say, well, you're only doing this to
[01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:19.000]  counter his complaint.
[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:20.000]  Right, revenge, right.
[01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:21.000]  Okay.
[01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  Well, no.
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:26.000]  Here's my documented evidence that he was criminally trespassing.
[01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.000]  He shouldn't have been here.
[01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:29.000]  Okay.
[01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.000]  Now, how do I tie that into my case as evidence?
[01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:35.000]  You don't tie it in as evidence.
[01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:36.000]  It's got nothing to do with evidence.
[01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:39.000]  It's a counter complaint against the guy.
[01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  I understand.
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:41.000]  Okay.
[01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:42.000]  All right.
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:43.000]  You've cleared it up for me.
[01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:44.000]  Okay.
[01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:45.000]  Thank you, sir.
[01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  You're welcome.
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:47.000]  Have a nice night.
[01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:48.000]  You too.
[01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  Thank you.
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:50.000]  You're welcome.
[01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:51.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:52.000]  All right.
[01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:53.000]  All right.
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:54.000]  We're in Michigan.
[01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:55.000]  Dale, what can we do for you?
[01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:56.000]  Yes, officer.
[01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:57.000]  How may I help you?
[01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:58.000]  What seems to be the situation?
[01:47:58.000 --> 01:47:59.000]  Yeah, that would be the question.
[01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:00.000]  That might be a good one.
[01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:01.000]  These are the words for me sometimes.
[01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:15.000]  So, I understand that there is civil and there is, let's see, civil and criminal.
[01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  And then there's administrative courts or administrative?
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:19.000]  Yes.
[01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:23.000]  But they're not constitutional courts?
[01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  No.
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:25.000]  All right.
[01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:33.000]  What about, okay, administrative, how about a judicial court?
[01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:38.000]  How do you claim a judicial proceeding or procedure?
[01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:41.000]  In other words?
[01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:44.000]  Well, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by claim.
[01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:46.000]  Well, how can you?
[01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:49.000]  You're trying to talk about invoking an Article III court, right?
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:50.000]  Proceeding then.
[01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:52.000]  How can you have a judicial proceeding?
[01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:55.000]  You're trying to talk about invoking an Article III court, right?
[01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:57.000]  Article III court, yes.
[01:48:57.000 --> 01:48:58.000]  Okay.
[01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:03.000]  How do you get an Article III court in one of the several states?
[01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.000]  That's a good question.
[01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  I'm trying to find that out.
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:08.000]  That's why I'm kind of asking the question, but I never hear that.
[01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:17.000]  Well, I heard, so administrative would be martial law type,
[01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:19.000]  amity jurisdiction, and commercial law bull crap, and then you have your,
[01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:22.000]  excuse me, and then you have your...
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:25.000]  You're missing the point of my question.
[01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:28.000]  Article III of the federal constitution, right?
[01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:29.000]  Right.
[01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  Guarantees that I should have a judicial proceeding?
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:32.000]  No.
[01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:33.000]  No.
[01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  No.
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:39.000]  Guarantees that in a federal case, that's what you will have.
[01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.000]  What does the state constitution say?
[01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  Exactly.
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:45.000]  Of your state, of your state, whatever state you're in.
[01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  Exactly.
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:47.000]  Right.
[01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:48.000]  Okay.
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:52.000]  So if I go before the judge and I say, I ask him, I've already made my
[01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:57.000]  affidavit for Article III court and a jury by 12 jury member trial,
[01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:03.000]  and I say, Your Honor, is this an administrative proceeding or is this a
[01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:04.000]  judicial proceeding?
[01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:08.000]  He's going to say, well, it's a judicial, it's administrative.
[01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:11.000]  I'm going to say, no, you can't have it both ways.
[01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:12.000]  Is that right?
[01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:13.000]  Yeah.
[01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:15.000]  It can't be administrative and judicial.
[01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:17.000]  If it's administrative, it's governed by the State Administrative
[01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:20.000]  Procedures Act, whatever that may be in any particular state.
[01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:24.000]  What it says about what applies to what courts is what goes,
[01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  not what the court itself wants to say.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  For instance, here in Texas, the administrative act specifically says,
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  the courts do not have jurisdiction over those cases in the first instance.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:40.000]  The State Office of Administrative Hearings does.
[01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:41.000]  Ah.
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.000]  I like that.
[01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:47.000]  I'm going to have to move to Texas.
[01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  Now, I think every state has a decent constitution.
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:51.000]  You just have to understand it first.
[01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  That would help.
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:53.000]  Yeah.
[01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:54.000]  Know your constitution.
[01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:55.000]  You know what?
[01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:57.000]  There's probably more benefits that are even better in your state constitution.
[01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:58.000]  Well, absolutely.
[01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:01.000]  The federal constitution was never met for you and me,
[01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:04.000]  unless we were entangled at the federal level.
[01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:06.000]  It's got nothing to do with us.
[01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.000]  Never has.
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:09.000]  Right.
[01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:16.000]  So, yeah, only, let's for instance, if I want the right of redress of grievances,
[01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:22.000]  it has to be done through the legislature to the federal government by state.
[01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:23.000]  Wouldn't that be the way to go?
[01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:24.000]  No.
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:26.000]  We're talking two different things here.
[01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:31.000]  Your right to be involved in how your government functions
[01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:38.000]  versus what level of government you have to deal with directly versus indirectly.
[01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:41.000]  Okay.
[01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:45.000]  Federal is always indirect for the people,
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:53.000]  unless the federal actually has a valid claim against an individual, which it never does.
[01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:56.000]  So now if we have a three branch form of government,
[01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:59.000]  each branch has its own authority and cannot...
[01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:00.000]  Okay.
[01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:01.000]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:02.000]  Now you serve another.
[01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:03.000]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:05.000]  How can the legislature create a judicial officer?
[01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:06.000]  Wait.
[01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:07.000]  And yet they're...
[01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:08.000]  Three branches.
[01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  Are...
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:10.000]  Mm-hmm.
[01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.000]  Three branches at what level?
[01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:15.000]  State or federal.
[01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.000]  No, no, no.
[01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  Listen up.
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  They're different entities with different jurisdiction.
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:29.000]  They may each have three levels, but they're not supposed to intermix.
[01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:33.000]  Well, if you have the legislature creating judicial officers,
[01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:40.000]  then you have a violation of separation of powers, and that's not how it's supposed to be.
[01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:42.000]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  Where are you getting that concept from?
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:47.000]  Where are you getting that concept from?
[01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:51.000]  Well, when I read the first, second, and third article, it looks like to me that...
[01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  First, second, and third article of what?
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:56.000]  All the federal constitutions.
[01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  Uh-huh.
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:00.000]  And you're reading that according to your state?
[01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:02.000]  Well, yeah, you can.
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:03.000]  You can do that.
[01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:04.000]  I haven't done that yet in this state.
[01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:07.000]  I'm not sure how it is, and I've got to find the original constitution,
[01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:11.000]  because they have six constitutions in my state that they've been doing
[01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:16.000]  without constitutional amendments since the early 1900s, I think,
[01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:19.000]  and maybe since the Civil War.
[01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:23.000]  So I've got to find the original one, compare it to the one I have now,
[01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.000]  and maybe even get one in the middle, because I can't afford to get them all right now.
[01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:31.000]  But I'm going to get the first one, the middle one, and the one that's current,
[01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.000]  and then compare them and see what's going on.
[01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:39.000]  Well, that would be good, but remember, that's what relates to your state, not the federal.
[01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:40.000]  Right, right.
[01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:47.000]  So we're supposed to have a constitutional republic,
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:51.000]  and therefore we should have three branches of government,
[01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:53.000]  each branch having its own powers and authority.
[01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:55.000]  It cannot usurp the powers of the government.
[01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:56.000]  Okay, okay.
[01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:57.000]  Let's come – wait, wait, wait.
[01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:00.000]  Dale, Dale, Dale, Dale, chill out for a second.
[01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  Let's get something established here so we're operating from the same starting point.
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:05.000]  Okay.
[01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:11.000]  Republican form of government does not mean necessarily only three departments.
[01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:17.000]  That's simply how most constitutions have set them up.
[01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:18.000]  Okay.
[01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:25.000]  A constitution could very well create a fourth one, the grand jury department,
[01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:29.000]  which shall not be ruled over by any of the others.
[01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:30.000]  Okay.
[01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:34.000]  This constitution of any state can set it up any way it wants to.
[01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:41.000]  Republican form of government simply means the people retain the political power,
[01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:50.000]  and they delegate it to a set of representatives to act in their best interest, not for themselves.
[01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:53.000]  That's what a republican form of government is.
[01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:54.000]  Right.
[01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:56.000]  Okay, so if we have judges legislating from the bench,
[01:54:56.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  but their office is created by the legislature,
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:05.000]  it seems to me like they're kind of like a – it's kind of like a scam going on here,
[01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:06.000]  like maybe –
[01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:09.000]  Well, there's tons of scams going on, but –
[01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:13.000]  – in there, and so – and then you've got the executives,
[01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:18.000]  and it's basically turning into a dictatorship because they're operating as a democracy
[01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:21.000]  instead of a constitutional republic.
[01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:22.000]  Okay.
[01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:23.000]  That's what's bothering me, yeah.
[01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:29.000]  Well, the issue of what they're operating as is they're operating as if they're independent
[01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:32.000]  of the will of the people and the limits we set for them.
[01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:39.000]  They're operating as if they're independent of the constitution we established for them to function under.
[01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:41.000]  Part of that fault lies with the courts.
[01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:42.000]  Part of that.
[01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:44.000]  The other part lies with the legislature.
[01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:52.000]  What does the legislature and the courts have in common that caused this problem?
[01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:54.000]  Okay, legislatures and the courts, what do you have in common?
[01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:59.000]  The American Bar Association.
[01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:00.000]  Very good.
[01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:04.000]  They're both people by lawyers that don't know what the hell they're doing
[01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:08.000]  and shouldn't be there in one of the departments at all.
[01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:09.000]  Right.
[01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:14.000]  The legal arm, the Federal Reserve, and the – let's see, the IRS is also an arm of the Federal Reserve.
[01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:15.000]  Okay, wait, wait, wait.
[01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:16.000]  It's a strong arm.
[01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:17.000]  Okay.
[01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  You keep going off on these tangents.
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:23.000]  Stop walking on the edge of the cliff and stick with what I'm discussing here.
[01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:25.000]  We're talking about the state level.
[01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:27.000]  Don't go anywhere else.
[01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:28.000]  Stay in this pool.
[01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:30.000]  Don't go pee in the neighbors.
[01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:31.000]  Right.
[01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:32.000]  Okay?
[01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:43.000]  Right here in the state, we've gotten where we've gotten because the people have lost control of those that we delegated authority to long ago,
[01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:46.000]  and we have done nothing to take it back.
[01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:48.000]  We need to teach our children, man.
[01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:50.000]  Junior high.
[01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:53.000]  We don't have to start with just our children.
[01:56:53.000 --> 01:57:00.000]  We can take our children and set an example to them by taking them with us when we organize into large groups,
[01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:07.000]  go down to the local office where this representative sits and say, look, you've got a nice oak tree out front.
[01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:09.000]  It's got a very long straight branch.
[01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:11.000]  Here's the rope.
[01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:14.000]  How would you like us to use it?
[01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:18.000]  You bet.
[01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:23.000]  I'm going to tell you, we're going to play a little game show.
[01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:28.000]  Rope, tree, politician, some assembly required.
[01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:32.000]  All right.
[01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  Great.
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:34.000]  You want to teach your kids?
[01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:38.000]  Teach them how to go down and talk to these people and hold them accountable.
[01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:40.000]  That's what you ought to be teaching your kids.
[01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.000]  These people work for you, son.
[01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:44.000]  These people work for you, honey.
[01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:46.000]  They work for you.
[01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:49.000]  You don't let them get away with this stuff.
[01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  But most people don't know what their own rights are.
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:55.000]  How are they going to explain to the kids what they are?
[01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:56.000]  Read the Constitution now.
[01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:58.000]  That's a good start.
[01:57:58.000 --> 01:57:59.000]  Okay.
[01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:00.000]  All right, Dale.
[01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:01.000]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  Frank, Doug, I apologize for not being able to get to you.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  I'm out of time.
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:11.000]  But I do thank you all for calling in tonight, for all your questions, all your comments and everything.
[01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:13.000]  Folks, you've got to get educated.
[01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:15.000]  You've got to know what your rights are.
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.000]  You've got to know how your power works.
[01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:23.000]  If you don't, you don't have any in either case.
[01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:27.000]  And that's no one's fault but yours.
[01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:30.000]  Stop being a sheep.
[01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.000]  Learn.
[01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:33.000]  Apply.
[01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:34.000]  Act.
[01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:36.000]  Y'all have a great week.
[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:37.000]  This has been Rule of Law Radio.
[01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:40.000]  I want to thank you all for listening in and calling in.
[01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:42.000]  Y'all have a great week.
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:45.000]  Good night.
[01:58:45.000 --> 01:59:13.000]  Thank you.
[01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:40.000]  Good night.
[01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:57.000]  Good night.