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[01:03.360 --> 01:09.080]  Another continuance in the trial of activist Adam Kokesh, originally set to begin October
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[01:15.720 --> 01:20.000]  The reason for the decision of Peter Cooper has not been made public.
[01:20.000 --> 01:24.040]  The trial is now set to begin November 18th.
[01:24.040 --> 01:30.120]  Kokesh faces charges of carrying a rifle or shotgun outside a home or place of business,
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[04:30.740 --> 04:35.960]  Oookay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kel regarding David Stevens,applause radio...
[04:37.180 --> 04:42.340]  This is our Thursday, October 24th show,
[04:42.340 --> 04:45.540]  And we're starting out with a couple of callers.
[04:45.540 --> 04:54.140]  I had an issue I was going to address about chicken bailiffs, but since we have a couple
[04:54.140 --> 05:00.340]  of callers, I will go to them first and I'll get to my issues if I have time for them.
[05:00.340 --> 05:05.340]  Okay, first question from Jim in Texas.
[05:05.340 --> 05:09.340]  Jim, what do you have for us today?
[05:09.340 --> 05:10.340]  Good evening.
[05:10.340 --> 05:20.340]  I'd like to know if filing a federal lawsuit will stop a sale, foreclosure sale.
[05:20.340 --> 05:21.340]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[05:21.340 --> 05:25.340]  I'm having a lot of trouble understanding you.
[05:25.340 --> 05:32.340]  Are you on a headset or a speaker phone?
[05:32.340 --> 05:39.340]  Your voice is booming into the mic, so the first part of what you say I'm not able to understand.
[05:39.340 --> 05:41.340]  Can you hear me now?
[05:41.340 --> 05:43.340]  Yes, a little better.
[05:43.340 --> 05:49.340]  You might move the mic just to the side of your mouth so that your breath's not popping into the microphone.
[05:49.340 --> 05:50.340]  Okay.
[05:50.340 --> 05:52.340]  Much better.
[05:52.340 --> 06:00.340]  Will filing a federal lawsuit stop a pending sale on a property?
[06:00.340 --> 06:05.340]  What is the nature of the federal lawsuit?
[06:05.340 --> 06:11.340]  What are the claims?
[06:11.340 --> 06:14.340]  Foreclosure to bank fraud.
[06:14.340 --> 06:15.340]  No, no, no, no.
[06:15.340 --> 06:16.340]  That's not how we get there.
[06:16.340 --> 06:21.340]  We have to say this is what they did wrong.
[06:21.340 --> 06:25.340]  They lacked agency standing or capacity.
[06:25.340 --> 06:33.340]  In order to get to federal, the suit would have to be under, I mean the note would have to be under three years old
[06:33.340 --> 06:41.340]  and then you could claim an action under the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, Truth in Lending Act,
[06:41.340 --> 06:44.340]  Home Equity Protections Act.
[06:44.340 --> 06:52.340]  If the suit is in excess of three years old, then you could claim lack of agency standing and capacity.
[06:52.340 --> 06:53.340]  Who the heck are you guys?
[06:53.340 --> 06:54.340]  I don't know you.
[06:54.340 --> 06:56.340]  I never had entered into a contract with you.
[06:56.340 --> 07:03.340]  I sent you a debt validation letter and you did not properly respond.
[07:03.340 --> 07:08.340]  Do you have any of those that got you into the federal court?
[07:08.340 --> 07:10.340]  Yes.
[07:10.340 --> 07:14.340]  Okay, which ones?
[07:14.340 --> 07:21.340]  Well, it was lack of standing and no proof of claim.
[07:21.340 --> 07:23.340]  They're not the owners of the note.
[07:23.340 --> 07:24.340]  So we're three years old.
[07:24.340 --> 07:26.340]  Okay, good.
[07:26.340 --> 07:32.340]  Okay, what is the question or issue?
[07:32.340 --> 07:40.340]  Will a federal lawsuit stop a sale on a property?
[07:40.340 --> 07:43.340]  No.
[07:43.340 --> 07:53.340]  There's almost no, the only lawsuit, the only legal action that will stop the sale on the property.
[07:53.340 --> 07:55.340]  Okay, let me back up.
[07:55.340 --> 08:04.340]  No legal action will by its nature stop the sale on a property.
[08:04.340 --> 08:11.340]  And that's because these guys can do whatever they want to and you can sue them for doing it.
[08:11.340 --> 08:17.340]  What you can do is give them reason not to hold a sale.
[08:17.340 --> 08:26.340]  And almost without failure, when you file a lawsuit, state or federal, against the lender,
[08:26.340 --> 08:30.340]  he will stop the foreclosure action.
[08:30.340 --> 08:40.340]  Now, he's not statutorily stopped, but he is reasonably and economically stopped.
[08:40.340 --> 08:49.340]  Because if he pursues execution of the foreclosure and you win the lawsuit,
[08:49.340 --> 08:57.340]  he has dramatically increased his level of risk.
[08:57.340 --> 09:04.340]  Because you made a claim that he didn't have authority to proceed, he proceeded anyway.
[09:04.340 --> 09:11.340]  And you show in court that in fact he didn't have authority to proceed.
[09:11.340 --> 09:18.340]  That shows deliberate intent on his part and you can take the amount of the property,
[09:18.340 --> 09:22.340]  triple it and sue him for that and a good chance you'll get it.
[09:22.340 --> 09:27.340]  So generally, when you sue the lender, it will stop it.
[09:27.340 --> 09:29.340]  Okay, well that answers my question.
[09:29.340 --> 09:30.340]  Thank you.
[09:30.340 --> 09:35.340]  Yeah, that's kind of the short and long of it.
[09:35.340 --> 09:41.340]  If you are pre-foreclosure, if you're close to foreclosure,
[09:41.340 --> 09:46.340]  you want to file the agency standing in capacity claim in the federal courts,
[09:46.340 --> 09:49.340]  now they will always throw it out.
[09:49.340 --> 09:52.340]  Especially if you're in Texas, especially if you're in Fort Worth,
[09:52.340 --> 09:56.340]  you get McBride and McBride is a real stinker.
[09:56.340 --> 10:00.340]  If you are a pro se and you file an action before McBride,
[10:00.340 --> 10:06.340]  he will throw it out no matter what.
[10:06.340 --> 10:13.340]  But his problem is when he dismisses it, you file a motion for reconsider.
[10:13.340 --> 10:17.340]  Well, when you file it, the other side will file a rule 12 motion to dismiss
[10:17.340 --> 10:20.340]  for a fairly stated claim which could be had.
[10:20.340 --> 10:29.340]  Then you have 10 days to file an opposition to the rule 12 motion.
[10:29.340 --> 10:35.340]  And then they've got 10 days to file an answer to your opposition.
[10:35.340 --> 10:39.340]  And then the judge will dismiss your case.
[10:39.340 --> 10:42.340]  It generally takes them a month or so to dismiss the case.
[10:42.340 --> 10:47.340]  And then you'll file a motion for reconsideration.
[10:47.340 --> 10:50.340]  And then you've got 10 days to do that.
[10:50.340 --> 10:53.340]  And then he'll generally take, if it's McBride,
[10:53.340 --> 10:55.340]  no matter what you file, he'll dismiss it the next day.
[10:55.340 --> 10:57.340]  He won't even read it.
[10:57.340 --> 11:02.340]  But if it's a real judge, the real judge may actually read your pleading.
[11:02.340 --> 11:06.340]  And no matter what you put in it, they're going to dismiss it anyway.
[11:06.340 --> 11:09.340]  So you get another week or two there.
[11:09.340 --> 11:12.340]  Then you file a notice of appeal.
[11:12.340 --> 11:15.340]  And then you've got 60 days to actually file the appeal.
[11:15.340 --> 11:21.340]  It will generally take the appeals court six months to a year to get to your appeal.
[11:21.340 --> 11:25.340]  And the more claims you have in the appeal,
[11:25.340 --> 11:30.340]  generally the longer it will take them to get to it.
[11:30.340 --> 11:38.340]  Then when the court of appeals denies your appeal,
[11:38.340 --> 11:49.340]  by then you want to be ready to come back with a petition for declaratory judgment
[11:49.340 --> 11:53.340]  if you have not been foreclosed on yet.
[11:53.340 --> 11:59.340]  If in the interim they have foreclosed on you or if they attempt to foreclose on you,
[11:59.340 --> 12:03.340]  then you file the petition for declaratory judgment,
[12:03.340 --> 12:06.340]  even if this federal suit is still working.
[12:06.340 --> 12:12.340]  That will generally stop them because that goes to a title issue.
[12:12.340 --> 12:20.340]  And primarily you want to file your original petition for declaratory judgment
[12:20.340 --> 12:25.340]  claiming that the deed of trust is invalid.
[12:25.340 --> 12:29.340]  And if you will read the deed of trust carefully,
[12:29.340 --> 12:40.340]  primarily you want to read Covenant 14, 15, 16, 20, 14 notices
[12:40.340 --> 12:48.340]  that are required to give all notices that are required by other laws by certified mail.
[12:48.340 --> 12:57.340]  If your note is over three years old, you can't make a claim under Home Equity Protection Act.
[12:57.340 --> 13:02.340]  Hope or Home Equity Protections Act, Teal or Truth in Lending Act,
[13:02.340 --> 13:05.340]  Aggressive by Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act.
[13:05.340 --> 13:08.340]  But let it be so that you pass these statutes
[13:08.340 --> 13:17.340]  and put in such a short limitation on your time to secure remedy
[13:17.340 --> 13:21.340]  a year, two years, and three years that they're almost worthless.
[13:21.340 --> 13:26.340]  You've got a year, two years, three years on a 30-year indebtedness.
[13:26.340 --> 13:32.340]  So they did not intend that these be viable protections.
[13:32.340 --> 13:35.340]  They were put in there for show.
[13:35.340 --> 13:38.340]  So you can't claim those.
[13:38.340 --> 13:49.340]  However, the biggest section of the Truth in Lending Act goes to the notices they are required to give you.
[13:49.340 --> 13:56.340]  Keep in mind, when the lender initiates foreclosure,
[13:56.340 --> 14:07.340]  he initiates foreclosure based on an alleged breach of a covenant of the security instrument.
[14:07.340 --> 14:19.340]  And that breach of a covenant of the security instrument constitutes a default of the security instrument.
[14:19.340 --> 14:23.340]  Read 1415, 1620.
[14:23.340 --> 14:30.340]  If you can find that the lender breached 1415, 16, or 20,
[14:30.340 --> 14:37.340]  then you can claim a prior breach of a covenant of the deed of trust
[14:37.340 --> 14:42.340]  and therefore a default on the part of the lender.
[14:42.340 --> 14:52.340]  You granted the lender certain privileges in the security instrument,
[14:52.340 --> 14:58.340]  but you granted those privileges with restrictions and conditions.
[14:58.340 --> 15:05.340]  You granted them under the conditions that they abide by the covenants of the contract.
[15:05.340 --> 15:09.340]  They breach one of those covenants.
[15:09.340 --> 15:12.340]  They default on the contract.
[15:12.340 --> 15:18.340]  They repudiate the contract, which constitutes voluntary rescission.
[15:18.340 --> 15:26.340]  They may not exercise the privileges granted if they are in violation of the restrictions.
[15:26.340 --> 15:29.340]  Does that make sense, Jim?
[15:29.340 --> 15:31.340]  Yes, somewhat.
[15:31.340 --> 15:35.340]  This is the best way to get at them.
[15:35.340 --> 15:41.340]  You go in first with a petition for declaratory judgment,
[15:41.340 --> 15:45.340]  claim a breach of a covenant of the deed of trust,
[15:45.340 --> 15:50.340]  and therefore the security instrument is void and unenforceable,
[15:50.340 --> 15:54.340]  and you ask the court to rule that it's void and enforceable.
[15:54.340 --> 16:00.340]  We have a problem with the local judges on petition for declaratory judgment.
[16:00.340 --> 16:07.340]  They get the filings, but they just refuse to rule on them.
[16:07.340 --> 16:10.340]  They just sit there.
[16:10.340 --> 16:13.340]  And, you know, the lawyers were complaining about it.
[16:13.340 --> 16:17.340]  And I'm saying, hey, that works for me.
[16:17.340 --> 16:21.340]  If I'm here and they're trying to throw me out of property
[16:21.340 --> 16:24.340]  and I have filed a claim to title,
[16:24.340 --> 16:27.340]  I can stop the JP with that claim to title.
[16:27.340 --> 16:30.340]  So the judge can sit on it until we both get old.
[16:30.340 --> 16:32.340]  I don't care.
[16:32.340 --> 16:33.340]  Hang on.
[16:33.340 --> 16:35.340]  This is Randy Cowden, David Stevens,
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[16:48.340 --> 16:53.340]  We'll talk about that a little more when we get back on the other side.
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[19:27.340 --> 19:32.340]  Okay, we are back. We're at the Kelton-Deb Stevens Rule of Law Radio,
[19:32.340 --> 19:35.340]  and we're talking to Jim in Texas.
[19:35.340 --> 19:40.340]  Jim, did all that make sense?
[19:40.340 --> 19:44.340]  Oh, I guess it would be help if I unmuted Jim.
[19:44.340 --> 19:47.340]  Okay, we can probably hear you better now.
[19:47.340 --> 19:50.340]  Well, I understand it to some degree.
[19:50.340 --> 19:53.340]  It's still trying to absorb it.
[19:53.340 --> 19:56.340]  Okay, so you have a federal suit in.
[19:56.340 --> 20:00.340]  Has the other side answered the suit?
[20:00.340 --> 20:03.340]  No, I haven't filed it yet.
[20:03.340 --> 20:05.340]  Oh, okay.
[20:05.340 --> 20:13.340]  What is your primary claim?
[20:13.340 --> 20:21.340]  Well, it is the Taylor Respa.
[20:21.340 --> 20:23.340]  Okay, they'll throw all that out.
[20:23.340 --> 20:29.340]  How old is your suit? I mean, how old is your mortgage?
[20:29.340 --> 20:32.340]  It is 10 years old.
[20:32.340 --> 20:40.340]  Okay, you are beyond a time at which you can claim hope with Taylor Respa directly.
[20:40.340 --> 20:49.340]  So what you do is you look at 1415. Is this an FHA loan?
[20:49.340 --> 20:50.340]  No.
[20:50.340 --> 20:55.340]  Okay, then look at 1415-16.
[20:55.340 --> 21:00.340]  You most likely have the Fannie Mae Freddie Mac uniform instrument.
[21:00.340 --> 21:05.340]  It's called a deed of trust. Is Murray's including the deed of trust?
[21:05.340 --> 21:06.340]  No.
[21:06.340 --> 21:10.340]  Okay, it's called a deed of trust,
[21:10.340 --> 21:24.340]  but it does not establish the deed of trust. Covenant 20 authorizes the lender to sell a portion of the note
[21:24.340 --> 21:29.340]  or the entire note together with the security instrument.
[21:29.340 --> 21:43.340]  Now, that is a condition. To your knowledge, did the lender sell a portion of the note or the entire note?
[21:43.340 --> 21:46.340]  I'm not sure, probably the whole note, but I'm not sure.
[21:46.340 --> 21:49.340]  Okay, that's a loaded question.
[21:49.340 --> 22:00.340]  There's only one way you can know that, and that's to look in the county record,
[22:00.340 --> 22:08.340]  because a sale is required to be filed in the county record.
[22:08.340 --> 22:14.340]  The change in interest, that's the whole purpose of the record,
[22:14.340 --> 22:18.340]  is so that, say you come to me, you want me to work on your house,
[22:18.340 --> 22:20.340]  you don't have the money to pay me, you want to pay me over time,
[22:20.340 --> 22:27.340]  and I say, okay, I'll do that, but I'm going to want to take a mechanics lien or a material man's lien.
[22:27.340 --> 22:30.340]  Mechanics lien will be for my labor.
[22:30.340 --> 22:37.340]  A material man's lien will be to pay for the materials that I used on your property.
[22:37.340 --> 22:42.340]  And before I do that, I'm going to want to go down to the county record
[22:42.340 --> 22:46.340]  and see what liens already exist against your property.
[22:46.340 --> 22:51.340]  If I put a dozen liens for two or three times the value of the property,
[22:51.340 --> 22:53.340]  I'm not going to put a lien on that.
[22:53.340 --> 22:58.340]  I'm not going to accept that as a claim, because they can't collect.
[22:58.340 --> 23:03.340]  If you have a mortgage, and the mortgage is kind of old,
[23:03.340 --> 23:08.340]  so a lot of it's paid down, there's a good chance I can collect on it, so I may go ahead and do it.
[23:08.340 --> 23:16.340]  I need to be able to look in the record and see who has a claim against the property.
[23:16.340 --> 23:28.340]  13.001 Texas Property Code says that a claim against real property
[23:28.340 --> 23:37.340]  not properly acknowledged or proven and properly filed in the county record
[23:37.340 --> 23:40.340]  is voidous to the holder.
[23:40.340 --> 23:46.340]  So you entered into a loan with a company.
[23:46.340 --> 23:53.340]  Is that company the same company that is now demanding payment from you?
[23:53.340 --> 23:54.340]  No.
[23:54.340 --> 23:55.340]  Okay.
[23:55.340 --> 24:04.340]  Is there anything in the record that shows a release of lien from the original company
[24:04.340 --> 24:13.340]  and a transfer of claim to the company that's now collecting from you?
[24:13.340 --> 24:14.340]  I am not sure.
[24:14.340 --> 24:17.340]  I'll have to go back and research it.
[24:17.340 --> 24:27.340]  If there's not, according to 13.001 Texas Property Code, these guys have no claim.
[24:27.340 --> 24:32.340]  They can't come to you and make a claim if they haven't filed in the record.
[24:32.340 --> 24:40.340]  You have a 940 number, so you're up here in the Dallas Fort Worth area like me.
[24:40.340 --> 24:48.340]  The Dallas County District Attorney filed suit against Merz
[24:48.340 --> 24:55.340]  and made a claim against them because they didn't file their changes
[24:55.340 --> 24:59.340]  of beneficial interest with the county clerk.
[24:59.340 --> 25:05.340]  And Merz came back and said the suit was frivolous
[25:05.340 --> 25:13.340]  because there is no requirement that we file anything with the county clerk.
[25:13.340 --> 25:15.340]  And I read it and I said that's exactly right.
[25:15.340 --> 25:19.340]  That's exactly the way I read the law.
[25:19.340 --> 25:23.340]  They went on to say, these lawyers are really full of themselves,
[25:23.340 --> 25:27.340]  they went on to say that if we don't file with the county clerk,
[25:27.340 --> 25:35.340]  we may not have a protected lien, but there is no requirement to file.
[25:35.340 --> 25:39.340]  And you see, this is a free country.
[25:39.340 --> 25:44.340]  You are free to screw yourself if you want to.
[25:44.340 --> 25:54.340]  13.001 says if you have a lien and you don't file it, you can't collect it.
[25:54.340 --> 26:01.340]  So you want to look in the record and see what the record says about
[26:01.340 --> 26:08.340]  who has power to make a claim against your property.
[26:08.340 --> 26:13.340]  You don't care who actually has a claim.
[26:13.340 --> 26:21.340]  You care what the record says about who actually has a claim.
[26:21.340 --> 26:26.340]  They're not filed in the record showing that they have a claim.
[26:26.340 --> 26:32.340]  And the only way they can have a filing showing that they have a claim,
[26:32.340 --> 26:40.340]  a filing has to have been filed by someone who by the record
[26:40.340 --> 26:46.340]  shows to have a claim against the property and authority to pass that claim.
[26:46.340 --> 26:52.340]  The claim would have to go in a direct chain of title from the original lender
[26:52.340 --> 26:56.340]  to the person now making the claim.
[26:56.340 --> 27:05.340]  So if you have a, which I find all the time, you've got ABC lender,
[27:05.340 --> 27:14.340]  and then you have XYZ mortgage company claiming authority to enforce the note,
[27:14.340 --> 27:25.340]  and you have a transfer of security instrument by PRQ mortgage company.
[27:25.340 --> 27:27.340]  Well, who's PRQ?
[27:27.340 --> 27:35.340]  And where did they get authority to transfer the security instrument to XYZ?
[27:35.340 --> 27:39.340]  That's an uninterrupted chain of title.
[27:39.340 --> 27:44.340]  There's nothing in there to show that that company had a power to make that transfer.
[27:44.340 --> 27:50.340]  Does it make sense where I'm going here?
[27:50.340 --> 27:56.340]  Go get everything that's filed in the county record.
[27:56.340 --> 28:00.340]  I have a friend here in Decatur.
[28:00.340 --> 28:04.340]  He was getting foreclosed on, so I went and looked in the county record.
[28:04.340 --> 28:05.340]  There's no deed of trust.
[28:05.340 --> 28:08.340]  I mean, there's no security instrument.
[28:08.340 --> 28:11.340]  So I filed a mechanics lien.
[28:11.340 --> 28:17.340]  Sold him a business more than the amount that he owed him.
[28:17.340 --> 28:21.340]  Then he went back and found that they had filed the,
[28:21.340 --> 28:25.340]  JP Morgan Chase had filed the lien under his wife's name.
[28:25.340 --> 28:32.340]  Well, he owned the property before he married her, so it's in his name exclusively.
[28:32.340 --> 28:35.340]  So they're going to try to foreclose in the process of that now,
[28:35.340 --> 28:38.340]  and I'm going to go to the court and ask for sanctions against him
[28:38.340 --> 28:45.340]  and sue him for attempted conversion of my property
[28:45.340 --> 28:49.340]  or circumvention of my lien in a frivolous pleading.
[28:49.340 --> 28:53.340]  And they're going to jump up and down and say, well, we filed a security instrument.
[28:53.340 --> 28:57.340]  And I'm going to go back and say 13.001 says
[28:57.340 --> 29:03.340]  that if a claim is not acknowledged or proven and properly filed,
[29:03.340 --> 29:07.340]  and they're going to say, well, the clerk filed it in the wrong place.
[29:07.340 --> 29:12.340]  Your problem, not my problem.
[29:12.340 --> 29:17.340]  My problem is I asked the clerk to search the records
[29:17.340 --> 29:20.340]  and show me what claims were against this property.
[29:20.340 --> 29:22.340]  He gave me this list here.
[29:22.340 --> 29:25.340]  Yours is not in there, Bubba.
[29:25.340 --> 29:29.340]  So if you have a problem taking it to the clerk, it's not mine.
[29:29.340 --> 29:33.340]  Under 13.001, you can't make the claim.
[29:33.340 --> 29:41.340]  Under 51.903, your claim is frivolous.
[29:41.340 --> 29:45.340]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[29:45.340 --> 29:49.340]  our call-in number, 512-646-1984.
[29:49.340 --> 29:51.340]  Jim, we'll finish up with you on the other side.
[29:51.340 --> 29:54.340]  We've got Andrew, Jim, Doug, and Mark.
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[33:30.340 --> 33:46.340]  Okay, we are back.
[33:46.340 --> 33:49.340]  Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Rue of La Radio.
[33:49.340 --> 33:52.340]  And I have to be careful here, Jim,
[33:52.340 --> 33:55.340]  because I could spend eight hours on this subject.
[33:55.340 --> 34:04.340]  And I'm kind of reluctant to just answer a simplistic question
[34:04.340 --> 34:08.340]  and not try to give you some of the tools you need to understand
[34:08.340 --> 34:12.340]  how to pursue this.
[34:12.340 --> 34:19.340]  With foreclosure, the best friend you have is delay.
[34:19.340 --> 34:23.340]  So it's not so much about what you can win or lose,
[34:23.340 --> 34:25.340]  but how long you can hold them in court.
[34:25.340 --> 34:28.340]  Now, I know if there's a lawyer listening,
[34:28.340 --> 34:31.340]  he's going to bristle at that,
[34:31.340 --> 34:36.340]  because the lawyer can get in trouble for filing a suit for the purpose of delay.
[34:36.340 --> 34:41.340]  If you're a pro se, we can get away with that.
[34:41.340 --> 34:43.340]  And it's about the politics.
[34:43.340 --> 34:46.340]  It's not about the rule of law in the end.
[34:46.340 --> 34:54.340]  So this is what we suggest if you need more assistance with this.
[34:54.340 --> 35:00.340]  I suggest you contact me off the air at Randy at RueofLaRadio.com,
[35:00.340 --> 35:02.340]  and I'll get you in touch with David,
[35:02.340 --> 35:05.340]  and he can give you some more information on this.
[35:05.340 --> 35:08.340]  There are things we can do to help you.
[35:08.340 --> 35:11.340]  And it is complex enough.
[35:11.340 --> 35:13.340]  I've got about six years' research in it,
[35:13.340 --> 35:17.340]  and that's all day, every day for six years,
[35:17.340 --> 35:21.340]  to be able to actually get some results.
[35:21.340 --> 35:25.340]  But have I pretty well answered your questions, Jim?
[35:25.340 --> 35:26.340]  Yes, that has gone.
[35:26.340 --> 35:27.340]  Thanks very much.
[35:27.340 --> 35:28.340]  Okay.
[35:28.340 --> 35:29.340]  Thank you, Jim.
[35:29.340 --> 35:35.340]  Now we're going to go to Andrew in Pennsylvania.
[35:35.340 --> 35:39.340]  Ethel, put your clothes on.
[35:39.340 --> 35:48.340]  My producer says that you've been streaking around in front of the police.
[35:48.340 --> 35:49.340]  No, no, no, no, no.
[35:49.340 --> 35:51.340]  I never strip searched.
[35:51.340 --> 35:55.340]  I wanted to discuss the subject of the case,
[35:55.340 --> 35:58.340]  Florence v. Board of Chosen Freeholders,
[35:58.340 --> 36:01.340]  where they said anybody who's taken to jail even for non-indictable offenses
[36:01.340 --> 36:03.340]  can be strip searched.
[36:03.340 --> 36:04.340]  A couple of problems with this case.
[36:04.340 --> 36:07.340]  First of all, the guy was pulled over for a transportation offense.
[36:07.340 --> 36:09.340]  As someone who listens to Eddie Craig,
[36:09.340 --> 36:12.340]  I can tell you that this means the case was a dud from the start, obviously.
[36:12.340 --> 36:15.340]  And not only that, he was taken to jail instead of a magistrate.
[36:15.340 --> 36:17.340]  But that's not what I wanted to ask about.
[36:17.340 --> 36:20.340]  The thing I wanted to ask about was a strip search itself.
[36:20.340 --> 36:24.340]  Is a strip search in and of itself, after you're taken to jail,
[36:24.340 --> 36:27.340]  a violation of due process?
[36:27.340 --> 36:30.340]  And if it is, does that mean that everybody who's been taken to jail
[36:30.340 --> 36:34.340]  since this case has a right to have their charges dropped?
[36:34.340 --> 36:39.340]  That's a good question.
[36:39.340 --> 36:47.340]  It's not a particular issue that I have researched directly.
[36:47.340 --> 36:52.340]  On the surface, I would think that a strip search
[36:52.340 --> 36:58.340]  is not necessarily a due process violation.
[36:58.340 --> 37:08.340]  Because if the arresting officer has a right to ensure his safety,
[37:08.340 --> 37:14.340]  and what if you have really noxious gas,
[37:14.340 --> 37:16.340]  wouldn't he need to know that?
[37:16.340 --> 37:19.340]  I mean, you might make someone sick in the jail.
[37:19.340 --> 37:25.340]  I'm being facetious here, but people do hide really strange things
[37:25.340 --> 37:28.340]  up in their body cavities.
[37:28.340 --> 37:32.340]  And that's part of the reason for strip searches.
[37:32.340 --> 37:36.340]  If someone is hiding some really obnoxious drugs,
[37:36.340 --> 37:40.340]  they could potentially use those to harm themselves with.
[37:40.340 --> 37:48.340]  I can imagine how a department can make what has the sound
[37:48.340 --> 37:54.340]  of reasonable arguments for a strip search.
[37:54.340 --> 37:58.340]  And the strip search, I would think, if performed properly
[37:58.340 --> 38:03.340]  and in private, would not be unduly invasive.
[38:03.340 --> 38:08.340]  I mean, it would be real uncomfortable and embarrassing.
[38:08.340 --> 38:12.340]  But they are carried out with somewhat regularity,
[38:12.340 --> 38:17.340]  and I would expect that they have been tested because of their nature.
[38:17.340 --> 38:19.340]  I know we've had a number of cases.
[38:19.340 --> 38:25.340]  I live 10 miles from a small town where a chief of police
[38:25.340 --> 38:29.340]  and his lieutenant strip searched a woman
[38:29.340 --> 38:37.340]  because the local dairy queen got a bogus $100 bill from her.
[38:37.340 --> 38:42.340]  These two male persons took her to the police department
[38:42.340 --> 38:45.340]  and strip searched her.
[38:45.340 --> 38:48.340]  Then they called the Treasury Department,
[38:48.340 --> 38:50.340]  and the Treasury Department came out,
[38:50.340 --> 38:53.340]  and they handed the Treasury Department the $100 bills,
[38:53.340 --> 38:56.340]  and the Treasury guy looked at it and said,
[38:56.340 --> 38:58.340]  what's wrong with this?
[38:58.340 --> 39:00.340]  Oops.
[39:00.340 --> 39:02.340]  Well, those two guys got fired.
[39:02.340 --> 39:05.340]  It turned out that the woman was wealthy enough
[39:05.340 --> 39:07.340]  she could afford to walk around with $100 bills,
[39:07.340 --> 39:10.340]  and she sued the city, got them both fired.
[39:10.340 --> 39:14.340]  Strip search is really touchy business,
[39:14.340 --> 39:19.340]  but since it's performed all over the country, there has to be support for it,
[39:19.340 --> 39:21.340]  and I'm just saying that kind of off the cuff
[39:21.340 --> 39:25.340]  because it is not something I have personally researched.
[39:25.340 --> 39:26.340]  Okay.
[39:26.340 --> 39:28.340]  Well, the thing about it is, first of all,
[39:28.340 --> 39:31.340]  strip search, they want you to think it has to do with safety.
[39:31.340 --> 39:32.340]  It has nothing to do with safety.
[39:32.340 --> 39:34.340]  It has to do with humiliating, embarrassing,
[39:34.340 --> 39:37.340]  putting you in a state of fear and control.
[39:37.340 --> 39:38.340]  Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[39:38.340 --> 39:43.340]  That is a speculation.
[39:43.340 --> 39:45.340]  Okay, well, I think it's catching the case
[39:45.340 --> 39:47.340]  because if they wanted to keep the jail safe,
[39:47.340 --> 39:49.340]  all they have to do is keep you in handcuffs
[39:49.340 --> 39:54.340]  and put you in a specially designed cell for the duration of your stay.
[39:54.340 --> 40:02.340]  But they can't do that either because while they have the authority to detain you,
[40:02.340 --> 40:06.340]  they have no power to punish,
[40:06.340 --> 40:11.340]  so they cannot subject you to cruel or unusual punishment,
[40:11.340 --> 40:15.340]  and to keep you in handcuffs over an extended period of time
[40:15.340 --> 40:20.340]  would definitely be cruel or unusual punishment.
[40:20.340 --> 40:27.340]  Solitary confinement over an extended period can also be construed as cruel or unusual.
[40:27.340 --> 40:35.340]  So although they seem to always throw me in solitary,
[40:35.340 --> 40:37.340]  but they don't keep handcuffs on me.
[40:37.340 --> 40:42.340]  Let's get those off of the TV quickly.
[40:42.340 --> 40:43.340]  All right.
[40:43.340 --> 40:44.340]  Okay.
[40:44.340 --> 40:49.340]  Well, everybody knows the TSA obviously has nothing to do with safety because I mean...
[40:49.340 --> 40:50.340]  Yeah, absolutely.
[40:50.340 --> 40:51.340]  We all know that.
[40:51.340 --> 41:03.340]  Okay, we know that, but we can't bring a viable argument to the court based on that.
[41:03.340 --> 41:08.340]  We need to have something more direct,
[41:08.340 --> 41:11.340]  and that's the only reason I jumped on that particular argument
[41:11.340 --> 41:19.340]  is because that's a personal observation.
[41:19.340 --> 41:26.340]  And while it's absolutely correct, it's not something we can legally argue.
[41:26.340 --> 41:33.340]  We have to argue something that goes to statute of code.
[41:33.340 --> 41:35.340]  That's where it becomes a little complicated,
[41:35.340 --> 41:38.340]  even when something that's so in-your-face obvious,
[41:38.340 --> 41:41.340]  like the fact that Governing State 911 meets the TSA is not for safety.
[41:41.340 --> 41:43.340]  I mean, you can't argue that in court.
[41:43.340 --> 41:46.340]  Where is the code in law that says you can't use that as an argument in court?
[41:46.340 --> 41:48.340]  Just out of curiosity.
[41:48.340 --> 41:53.340]  Well, we have to go to facts, and that's speculation.
[41:53.340 --> 42:02.340]  Well, what facts do you have to show that the supposed safety search
[42:02.340 --> 42:05.340]  is in fact not for the purpose of safety?
[42:05.340 --> 42:10.340]  TSA is going to come to the court before the court and say,
[42:10.340 --> 42:18.340]  in our searches, we found this many guns, this many knives, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[42:18.340 --> 42:22.340]  So they're going to be able to say, we have had an effect on safety.
[42:22.340 --> 42:25.340]  And by the fact that we do these searches,
[42:25.340 --> 42:31.340]  it is reasonable to presume that would prevent people from even considering
[42:31.340 --> 42:36.340]  bringing weapons because they would expect to be detected by us
[42:36.340 --> 42:41.340]  because we are such highly skilled professionals.
[42:41.340 --> 42:47.340]  I can make that argument if I was TSA and make it based on fact.
[42:47.340 --> 42:51.340]  Now, we can say that it has this negative effect,
[42:51.340 --> 42:59.340]  but we're going to have to have more than indignation to support it.
[42:59.340 --> 43:00.340]  Okay.
[43:00.340 --> 43:02.340]  Kyle, thank you for clarifying that.
[43:02.340 --> 43:05.340]  I mean, that is a big bummer, though.
[43:05.340 --> 43:11.340]  Yeah, and I'm trying not, you know, I'm the guy that wants to clobber them.
[43:11.340 --> 43:15.340]  And so I'm not trying to blow off the arguments.
[43:15.340 --> 43:22.340]  What I'm trying to get folks to do is hone the argument a lot more careful.
[43:22.340 --> 43:26.340]  And, you know, they use these bogus arguments.
[43:26.340 --> 43:32.340]  When I talked to the guy earlier about the arguments we could bring,
[43:32.340 --> 43:37.340]  some of ours were kind of bogus, but we could make them.
[43:37.340 --> 43:42.340]  So we need to look at TSA and see what arguments we could make
[43:42.340 --> 43:45.340]  that will stand up to legal scrutiny,
[43:45.340 --> 43:48.340]  whether they're valid or not, we don't care,
[43:48.340 --> 43:50.340]  as long as you make the other guy have to dance to it.
[43:50.340 --> 43:51.340]  We've got to go to break.
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[47:04.340 --> 47:05.340]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens,
[47:05.340 --> 47:06.340]  rule of law radio.
[47:06.340 --> 47:09.340]  We're talking to Andrew in Pennsylvania.
[47:09.340 --> 47:12.340]  Have we pretty well answered your question, Andrew?
[47:12.340 --> 47:15.340]  Yes, and probably the most important thing I learned
[47:15.340 --> 47:17.340]  was that even a perfectly in-your-face argument
[47:17.340 --> 47:19.340]  is not legitimate in court.
[47:19.340 --> 47:23.340]  That's probably the biggest thing I got from what you explained.
[47:23.340 --> 47:29.340]  They make arguments that are really invalid
[47:29.340 --> 47:36.340]  but sound like they have standing or foundation.
[47:36.340 --> 47:39.340]  So we need to look for similar arguments
[47:39.340 --> 47:41.340]  that we can bring back out of that.
[47:41.340 --> 47:43.340]  We don't care if they're really valid or not.
[47:43.340 --> 47:45.340]  If they appear to have foundation,
[47:45.340 --> 47:50.340]  we put the other person to his proof that they don't,
[47:50.340 --> 47:52.340]  just like they do to us.
[47:52.340 --> 47:57.340]  And Deborah wanted to touch on the TSA issue.
[47:57.340 --> 47:59.340]  So thank you, Andrew.
[47:59.340 --> 48:01.340]  We're going to go to Deborah.
[48:01.340 --> 48:02.340]  Go, Deb.
[48:02.340 --> 48:04.340]  Yeah, thanks, Randy.
[48:04.340 --> 48:08.340]  Just briefly, I wanted to touch on this strip search thing,
[48:08.340 --> 48:11.340]  or not just the strip search thing,
[48:11.340 --> 48:16.340]  but anything having to do with the whole booking procedure.
[48:16.340 --> 48:21.340]  I mean, the entire time that Randy and I have been on the air
[48:21.340 --> 48:26.340]  since 2007, maybe longer than that,
[48:26.340 --> 48:29.340]  I'm starting to lose count,
[48:29.340 --> 48:32.340]  our whole premise has to do with due process
[48:32.340 --> 48:35.340]  and the fact that if somebody's arrested for something,
[48:35.340 --> 48:39.340]  if there is indeed probable cause,
[48:39.340 --> 48:42.340]  they have to be brought directly to a magistrate.
[48:42.340 --> 48:46.340]  And the cop has to plead their case.
[48:46.340 --> 48:50.340]  The defendant has to plead their case.
[48:50.340 --> 48:53.340]  And all that has to take place before there's ever an orange suit
[48:53.340 --> 48:58.340]  or a mugshot or a fingerprint or a strip search or anything.
[48:58.340 --> 49:03.340]  Okay, now granted, if there's some extenuating circumstance
[49:03.340 --> 49:10.340]  where there's a perp who is potentially threatening
[49:10.340 --> 49:16.340]  that they have chemical weapons on their body or whatever,
[49:16.340 --> 49:19.340]  well, then there would be probable cause for some kind of search.
[49:19.340 --> 49:24.340]  But if it's something like a transportation issue,
[49:24.340 --> 49:31.340]  like a class B misdemeanor of some transportation issue,
[49:31.340 --> 49:36.340]  where is the probable cause there to do a cavity search?
[49:36.340 --> 49:38.340]  So no, I have to disagree.
[49:38.340 --> 49:42.340]  I have to disagree that the enforcement entities
[49:42.340 --> 49:45.340]  have some kind of authority to exert that,
[49:45.340 --> 49:50.340]  oh, just because there could be some minuscule possibility
[49:50.340 --> 49:57.340]  that somebody could have a tiny vial of whatever,
[49:57.340 --> 50:01.340]  plastic explosives or plutonium or who knows what.
[50:01.340 --> 50:06.340]  Let's use our imagination inside their ear or their mouth
[50:06.340 --> 50:12.340]  or even the crook of their arm or whatever, any other body cavity.
[50:12.340 --> 50:15.340]  That means that enforcement entities have the authority
[50:15.340 --> 50:19.340]  to do strip searches under any particular circumstance.
[50:19.340 --> 50:21.340]  No, I completely disagree with that.
[50:21.340 --> 50:23.340]  There has to be some kind of probable cause for that,
[50:23.340 --> 50:28.340]  and this is what Randy and I have been hammering ever since day one
[50:28.340 --> 50:30.340]  for years and years and years,
[50:30.340 --> 50:33.340]  that if somebody is arrested for something,
[50:33.340 --> 50:40.340]  then that arresting servant has to take that defendant directly to a magistrate.
[50:40.340 --> 50:43.340]  Period. End of story.
[50:43.340 --> 50:47.340]  I mean, if there's some extenuating circumstances,
[50:47.340 --> 50:49.340]  they've got a bomb in their hand, obviously,
[50:49.340 --> 50:51.340]  okay, that may be a different story.
[50:51.340 --> 50:54.340]  But let me, hold on one second.
[50:54.340 --> 50:56.340]  Let me go to the TSA issue.
[50:56.340 --> 51:00.340]  Okay, this is a completely different story, okay,
[51:00.340 --> 51:04.340]  because when you're dealing with a TSA,
[51:04.340 --> 51:08.340]  what is the first word of that an acronym?
[51:08.340 --> 51:11.340]  Transportation.
[51:11.340 --> 51:16.340]  Okay, it has been declared by the Supreme Court multiple times
[51:16.340 --> 51:21.340]  that the word transportation means commerce.
[51:21.340 --> 51:25.340]  All right, that means literally transporting goods
[51:25.340 --> 51:31.340]  or passengers from point A to point B for hire.
[51:31.340 --> 51:34.340]  All right, and so when people go out
[51:34.340 --> 51:38.340]  and they buy a plane ticket on commercial airlines,
[51:38.340 --> 51:40.340]  you're not a traveler anymore.
[51:40.340 --> 51:43.340]  We've got to get this through our thick heads.
[51:43.340 --> 51:45.340]  You're a passenger.
[51:45.340 --> 51:48.340]  All right, it's the same thing as if, okay,
[51:48.340 --> 51:51.340]  you've got to listen to Eddie's traffic show on Monday nights.
[51:51.340 --> 51:53.340]  It's the same thing like with a driver.
[51:53.340 --> 51:57.340]  All right, you've got the pilot in the case of the airliners,
[51:57.340 --> 51:59.340]  and you've got the passengers.
[51:59.340 --> 52:04.340]  Once you are a passenger, you're not a traveler anymore.
[52:04.340 --> 52:11.340]  You have agreed to that entire commercial regulatory scheme
[52:11.340 --> 52:13.340]  of the federal government.
[52:13.340 --> 52:17.340]  Okay, so you can't complain anymore about,
[52:17.340 --> 52:20.340]  oh, they violated my Fourth Amendment rights.
[52:20.340 --> 52:21.340]  They violated my rights.
[52:21.340 --> 52:22.340]  They searched me.
[52:22.340 --> 52:23.340]  They touched me.
[52:23.340 --> 52:24.340]  They don't have a right to do this.
[52:24.340 --> 52:25.340]  This is wrong.
[52:25.340 --> 52:26.340]  Well, you know what?
[52:26.340 --> 52:28.340]  Okay, let's get this straight.
[52:28.340 --> 52:29.340]  Hold on, hold on.
[52:29.340 --> 52:30.340]  Wait, wait, hold on, Randy.
[52:30.340 --> 52:31.340]  Hold on, let me finish.
[52:31.340 --> 52:34.340]  They don't have the right to do that.
[52:34.340 --> 52:41.340]  They have the authority granted to them to do that by whom?
[52:41.340 --> 52:45.340]  By you, because you signed the ticket,
[52:45.340 --> 52:47.340]  because you bought the ticket,
[52:47.340 --> 52:50.340]  and you agreed to the terms and conditions of the ticket.
[52:50.340 --> 52:53.340]  You agreed to be a passenger.
[52:53.340 --> 52:56.340]  All right, and so the only way you're going to be able to,
[52:56.340 --> 52:59.340]  anybody's going to be able to fight this TSA issue,
[52:59.340 --> 53:03.340]  is when you go to buy a ticket,
[53:03.340 --> 53:09.340]  you're going to have to print off the lengthy terms and conditions
[53:09.340 --> 53:12.340]  and not just click on the little button on the website.
[53:12.340 --> 53:15.340]  You have to print it off, and this is just for starters.
[53:15.340 --> 53:19.340]  Everywhere on that, you know, 100-page terms and conditions
[53:19.340 --> 53:22.340]  that you agreed to when you buy that plane ticket
[53:22.340 --> 53:23.340]  from that commercial airline,
[53:23.340 --> 53:25.340]  everywhere you see the word passenger,
[53:25.340 --> 53:28.340]  you've got to cross it out and say the word traveler
[53:28.340 --> 53:29.340]  and write the word traveler.
[53:29.340 --> 53:34.340]  And every time you see anything about Homeland Security or TSA
[53:34.340 --> 53:40.340]  or paragraphs where you agree to the terms and conditions of the TSA,
[53:40.340 --> 53:42.340]  you've just got to X that out.
[53:42.340 --> 53:46.340]  All right, and then you submit that back to the airline,
[53:46.340 --> 53:49.340]  and let's see if they accept it or not.
[53:49.340 --> 53:55.340]  And if the airline agency accepts your modification to that contract,
[53:55.340 --> 53:56.340]  well then, hey, guess what?
[53:56.340 --> 53:57.340]  You're good to go.
[53:57.340 --> 54:00.340]  Then you just walk right in the airport, and guess what?
[54:00.340 --> 54:02.340]  You're not a passenger anymore.
[54:02.340 --> 54:03.340]  You're a traveler.
[54:03.340 --> 54:06.340]  And if the TSA insists on all their growth downs
[54:06.340 --> 54:09.340]  and the naked body scans and everything else,
[54:09.340 --> 54:13.340]  you just tell them straight up and even show them the contract.
[54:13.340 --> 54:14.340]  Hey, you know what?
[54:14.340 --> 54:15.340]  I didn't agree.
[54:15.340 --> 54:19.340]  I did not agree to be regulated by you.
[54:19.340 --> 54:22.340]  I did not agree to your regulatory scheme.
[54:22.340 --> 54:23.340]  I'm not a passenger.
[54:23.340 --> 54:24.340]  I'm a traveler.
[54:24.340 --> 54:29.340]  And if they insist on touching you and the groping and everything else,
[54:29.340 --> 54:34.340]  well then, then you have standing.
[54:34.340 --> 54:42.340]  Then you have some standing to sue them regarding your right to travel.
[54:42.340 --> 54:45.340]  Otherwise, you don't have that right.
[54:45.340 --> 54:48.340]  You ain't got no cause to complain.
[54:48.340 --> 54:49.340]  And here's the other thing.
[54:49.340 --> 54:52.340]  And if the airline, if the airline agency,
[54:52.340 --> 54:58.340]  if they don't agree to your modifications of that contract,
[54:58.340 --> 55:02.340]  well then you sue the airline for violating your right to travel.
[55:02.340 --> 55:04.340]  Look, people, this is what we're going to have to do.
[55:04.340 --> 55:06.340]  We've got to make a stand.
[55:06.340 --> 55:10.340]  I will not go into any airport anymore.
[55:10.340 --> 55:12.340]  I will not fly commercial.
[55:12.340 --> 55:14.340]  I've been saving it up.
[55:14.340 --> 55:16.340]  I've been doing my research.
[55:16.340 --> 55:18.340]  And probably what I'm going to do someday,
[55:18.340 --> 55:21.340]  and I don't care if the bad guys are listening because they know,
[55:21.340 --> 55:24.340]  I'm going to buy just some measly little ticket,
[55:24.340 --> 55:28.340]  some commuter ticket from Austin to Houston or something.
[55:28.340 --> 55:32.340]  And I'm going to attempt to modify the terms and agreements
[55:32.340 --> 55:36.340]  and declare myself a traveler, not a passenger.
[55:36.340 --> 55:42.340]  Probably it'll just fly right past the airliner's attorneys.
[55:42.340 --> 55:46.340]  Well, then I got the TSA by the you-know-what.
[55:46.340 --> 55:47.340]  All right.
[55:47.340 --> 55:48.340]  But you know what?
[55:48.340 --> 55:52.340]  If the airline agency don't agree to it, well then I'll sue them.
[55:52.340 --> 55:53.340]  All right.
[55:53.340 --> 55:55.340]  But you can't just, people, listen.
[55:55.340 --> 55:56.340]  I'm telling you.
[55:56.340 --> 55:59.340]  I know what I'm talking about because I studied this commercial aspect
[55:59.340 --> 56:05.340]  of law for a long time under my mentor, and you know who that is,
[56:05.340 --> 56:07.340]  Mr. Harmon Taylor.
[56:07.340 --> 56:08.340]  All right.
[56:08.340 --> 56:11.340]  You cannot just buy a ticket, all right,
[56:11.340 --> 56:15.340]  a commercial airline ticket as a passenger and agree to all the terms
[56:15.340 --> 56:19.340]  and conditions and then walk into that TSA line and go,
[56:19.340 --> 56:21.340]  oh, oh, they're violating my rights.
[56:21.340 --> 56:22.340]  No, they're not.
[56:22.340 --> 56:23.340]  They're not violating your rights.
[56:23.340 --> 56:26.340]  TSA's not violating your rights because you already agreed to the terms
[56:26.340 --> 56:28.340]  and conditions of their regulatory scheme.
[56:28.340 --> 56:33.340]  And so the answer is don't agree to it.
[56:33.340 --> 56:37.340]  Do not agree to it, people.
[56:37.340 --> 56:38.340]  All right.
[56:38.340 --> 56:39.340]  Everything is commercial.
[56:39.340 --> 56:41.340]  All law is commercial, all right.
[56:41.340 --> 56:43.340]  All statute is commercial.
[56:43.340 --> 56:44.340]  Everything is commercial.
[56:44.340 --> 56:45.340]  It's all by commercial agreement.
[56:45.340 --> 56:51.340]  The only law that is not by commercial agreement is common law crimes
[56:51.340 --> 56:54.340]  like murder, rape, assault, that sort of thing.
[56:54.340 --> 56:58.340]  Everything else, transportation, everything.
[56:58.340 --> 57:01.340]  It's all commercial in nature.
[57:01.340 --> 57:02.340]  All right.
[57:02.340 --> 57:04.340]  So I just want to put that out there.
[57:04.340 --> 57:08.340]  People ain't got no standing to complain about their TSA
[57:08.340 --> 57:10.340]  if you've agreed to it.
[57:10.340 --> 57:13.340]  Okay?
[57:13.340 --> 57:18.340]  I'm going to argue that I do have standing
[57:18.340 --> 57:23.340]  because the forced agreement is unconscionable
[57:23.340 --> 57:28.340]  and an unconscionable covenant of a contract is unenforceable.
[57:28.340 --> 57:30.340]  How is it unconscionable?
[57:30.340 --> 57:35.340]  It's unconscionable because they deny me access
[57:35.340 --> 57:39.340]  to public transportation if I don't give up rights
[57:39.340 --> 57:43.340]  and I gain nothing from the rights that I give up.
[57:43.340 --> 57:48.340]  Now, if they want to decrease the price of my ticket
[57:48.340 --> 57:53.340]  based on my agreement to allow them to do things that they want to
[57:53.340 --> 57:57.340]  that provide me no benefit, then it's not unconscionable.
[57:57.340 --> 57:58.340]  Wait a minute.
[57:58.340 --> 57:59.340]  Wait a minute, Randy.
[57:59.340 --> 58:02.340]  When you learn transportation, you don't have any rights.
[58:02.340 --> 58:03.340]  Okay?
[58:03.340 --> 58:07.340]  I have contractual rights, and under contract,
[58:07.340 --> 58:11.340]  an unconscionable provision is unenforceable.
[58:11.340 --> 58:12.340]  Okay, well, we need to discuss...
[58:12.340 --> 58:14.340]  I'm not talking about basic rights.
[58:14.340 --> 58:15.340]  I'm talking about contract law.
[58:15.340 --> 58:20.340]  Okay, well, we need to discuss how it's really unconscionable.
[58:20.340 --> 58:22.340]  Does it provide me a benefit?
[58:22.340 --> 58:23.340]  Sure it does.
[58:23.340 --> 58:26.340]  You get to get on the plane and go where you want.
[58:26.340 --> 58:28.340]  No, I paid for that.
[58:28.340 --> 58:29.340]  Well?
[58:29.340 --> 58:30.340]  They added this to it.
[58:30.340 --> 58:34.340]  It provided no benefit for adding this to it.
[58:34.340 --> 58:35.340]  They want to lower my price.
[58:35.340 --> 58:36.340]  Well, then you have to...
[58:36.340 --> 58:40.340]  Then you need to sue the airline, not the TSA then,
[58:40.340 --> 58:44.340]  because they're the ones enforcing the terms in that ticket.
[58:44.340 --> 58:46.340]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
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[01:01:40.340 --> 01:01:41.340]  Remember John Pike?
[01:01:41.340 --> 01:01:46.340]  He's the former UC Davis campus cop whose image went viral
[01:01:46.340 --> 01:01:50.340]  after pepper spraying Occupy members in November of 2011.
[01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:53.340]  Due to his use of force, he was fired,
[01:01:53.340 --> 01:01:58.340]  and the Associated Press now reports that Pike will receive $38,000
[01:01:58.340 --> 01:02:00.340]  in workers' compensation.
[01:02:00.340 --> 01:02:04.340]  The 40-year-old claimed he suffered depression and anxiety
[01:02:04.340 --> 01:02:10.340]  stemming from death threats he and his family received due to his actions.
[01:02:10.340 --> 01:02:15.340]  A 13-year-old boy was shot dead Tuesday by police in Northern California.
[01:02:15.340 --> 01:02:19.340]  They claim he refused to put down the pellet gun he was carrying
[01:02:19.340 --> 01:02:22.340]  despite numerous commands for him to do so.
[01:02:22.340 --> 01:02:28.340]  The Associated Press reports that the officers mistook the weapon for an AK-47.
[01:02:28.340 --> 01:02:32.340]  Community members are questioning the tactics used by the officers
[01:02:32.340 --> 01:02:35.340]  that took the life of Andy Lopez.
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[01:03:24.340 --> 01:03:41.340]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:41.340 --> 01:03:44.340]  Randy Kelton, Derby Stevens, Rudovla Radio.
[01:03:44.340 --> 01:03:46.340]  And we're going back to Deb.
[01:03:46.340 --> 01:03:49.340]  We have a little more on this subject and then we'll move on.
[01:03:49.340 --> 01:03:50.340]  Go ahead, Deb.
[01:03:50.340 --> 01:03:55.340]  Okay, yeah, we were talking a little bit on the break about the contractual issue
[01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:59.340]  and Randy was saying, well, once you buy the ticket
[01:03:59.340 --> 01:04:04.340]  and then all this stuff happens, and, you know, I was saying,
[01:04:04.340 --> 01:04:10.340]  look, you have the right to know what the terms and conditions are
[01:04:10.340 --> 01:04:14.340]  of the contract of the agreement before you enter into it.
[01:04:14.340 --> 01:04:16.340]  And you're responsible.
[01:04:16.340 --> 01:04:20.340]  You're liable for knowing those terms and conditions.
[01:04:20.340 --> 01:04:24.340]  And that's why you got to click on that little checkbox.
[01:04:24.340 --> 01:04:28.340]  And, yeah, there's like a little scroll box that has, you know,
[01:04:28.340 --> 01:04:36.340]  lord knows how many, you know, paragraphs full of contractual agreement
[01:04:36.340 --> 01:04:40.340]  that you're agreeing to and most everybody just clicks on it.
[01:04:40.340 --> 01:04:42.340]  And then you go and then you arrive at the airport
[01:04:42.340 --> 01:04:44.340]  and then all this stuff happens and people wonder,
[01:04:44.340 --> 01:04:47.340]  well, how did this happen?
[01:04:47.340 --> 01:04:51.340]  And they don't have the right to do this to me.
[01:04:51.340 --> 01:04:53.340]  And I have my rights.
[01:04:53.340 --> 01:04:57.340]  And, you know, just to lay a little bit more of a groundwork,
[01:04:57.340 --> 01:05:00.340]  I mean, remember, folks, governments don't have any rights.
[01:05:00.340 --> 01:05:02.340]  Okay, government entities have no rights.
[01:05:02.340 --> 01:05:05.340]  All right, public servants have no rights.
[01:05:05.340 --> 01:05:12.340]  All right, they have authorities and privileges that are delegated to them.
[01:05:12.340 --> 01:05:15.340]  All right, we have rights.
[01:05:15.340 --> 01:05:18.340]  All right, we have rights as the individuals.
[01:05:18.340 --> 01:05:20.340]  And I don't want to call ourselves sovereigns
[01:05:20.340 --> 01:05:23.340]  because that gets off into another subject
[01:05:23.340 --> 01:05:27.340]  because technically the definition of a sovereign is an entity
[01:05:27.340 --> 01:05:29.340]  that has lawmaking authority.
[01:05:29.340 --> 01:05:32.340]  But I would rather call ourselves freemen.
[01:05:32.340 --> 01:05:34.340]  Okay?
[01:05:34.340 --> 01:05:40.340]  And so, look, we have the duty and the obligation to read
[01:05:40.340 --> 01:05:44.340]  and understand what we're agreeing to before we agree to it.
[01:05:44.340 --> 01:05:48.340]  And that's why I was saying if you buy the ticket, you click the little button,
[01:05:48.340 --> 01:05:51.340]  you don't even look at it, you don't even think about it,
[01:05:51.340 --> 01:05:56.340]  then you really honestly don't have standing to sue the TSA
[01:05:56.340 --> 01:06:02.340]  for Fourth Amendment rights or violations or whatever because you agree to it.
[01:06:02.340 --> 01:06:09.340]  You just entered into a transportation contract that is different from travel.
[01:06:09.340 --> 01:06:10.340]  You're in transportation.
[01:06:10.340 --> 01:06:12.340]  You're a passenger.
[01:06:12.340 --> 01:06:15.340]  You're literally cargo if you want to put it that way.
[01:06:15.340 --> 01:06:19.340]  And you agree to it because you clicked on the button.
[01:06:19.340 --> 01:06:27.340]  And that's why I'm saying, look, folks, if you really want to beat the TSA,
[01:06:27.340 --> 01:06:33.340]  then you have to not agree to the terms and conditions, period.
[01:06:33.340 --> 01:06:35.340]  You've got to dissect that contract.
[01:06:35.340 --> 01:06:37.340]  You've got to cross out the word passenger.
[01:06:37.340 --> 01:06:39.340]  You've got to write the word traveler.
[01:06:39.340 --> 01:06:43.340]  You've got to X out the whole paragraph that has anything to do with homeland security
[01:06:43.340 --> 01:06:50.340]  or the TSA or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, submit it back to the airline, see what happens.
[01:06:50.340 --> 01:06:53.340]  The airline may or may not agree to your modification.
[01:06:53.340 --> 01:07:01.340]  And right now we are working out legal strategies on our end that if the airline does not agree
[01:07:01.340 --> 01:07:06.340]  to those modifications, then you sue the airline for denying your right to travel
[01:07:06.340 --> 01:07:12.340]  because as Randy was saying on the break and saying earlier, you basically have no option
[01:07:12.340 --> 01:07:17.340]  unless you are exorbitantly wealthy rich.
[01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:23.340]  How are you going to get from point A to point B on one side of the country to the other,
[01:07:23.340 --> 01:07:28.340]  unless you fly commercial airline?
[01:07:28.340 --> 01:07:32.340]  I mean, most people cannot afford private jets.
[01:07:32.340 --> 01:07:36.340]  So anyway, I'm just saying it all boils down to this.
[01:07:36.340 --> 01:07:38.340]  It all boils down to the contract.
[01:07:38.340 --> 01:07:47.340]  And if you do get the airlines to agree to your modifications, then you go confidently into the airport.
[01:07:47.340 --> 01:07:51.340]  And when the TSA tries to harass you and puts you through the naked body scanner
[01:07:51.340 --> 01:07:54.340]  and pats you down and everything, you say, hey, guess what?
[01:07:54.340 --> 01:07:59.340]  I didn't agree to be regulated by you.
[01:07:59.340 --> 01:08:02.340]  And you can even whip out the contract.
[01:08:02.340 --> 01:08:07.340]  And then if they still try to put their hands on you or make you do this and that,
[01:08:07.340 --> 01:08:12.340]  then you have a legitimate claim.
[01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:14.340]  Then you have a legitimate cause of action against the TSA.
[01:08:14.340 --> 01:08:18.340]  But if you agree to their whole regulatory scheme, you got nothing.
[01:08:18.340 --> 01:08:19.340]  You can't sue them.
[01:08:19.340 --> 01:08:20.340]  You agree to it.
[01:08:20.340 --> 01:08:21.340]  Okay?
[01:08:21.340 --> 01:08:22.340]  Everything is by commercial agreement.
[01:08:22.340 --> 01:08:26.340]  Everything is a civil regulatory scheme.
[01:08:26.340 --> 01:08:27.340]  Everything.
[01:08:27.340 --> 01:08:28.340]  All right?
[01:08:28.340 --> 01:08:29.340]  I do not agree to it.
[01:08:29.340 --> 01:08:30.340]  All right?
[01:08:30.340 --> 01:08:32.340]  So that's what I got to say about that.
[01:08:32.340 --> 01:08:34.340]  Randy, comments.
[01:08:34.340 --> 01:08:35.340]  You're right.
[01:08:35.340 --> 01:08:36.340]  I agree.
[01:08:36.340 --> 01:08:40.340]  You are under contract.
[01:08:40.340 --> 01:08:46.340]  My issue with it is that this becomes an adhesion contract.
[01:08:46.340 --> 01:08:59.340]  It is the airline who is licensed by the state and thereby has a duty to provide a service to me.
[01:08:59.340 --> 01:09:06.340]  They then provide a service with unconscionable provisions in it.
[01:09:06.340 --> 01:09:14.340]  They are given the exclusive right to perform this particular service.
[01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:24.340]  I can't go out there and set up an airline and start selling tickets unless I agree to be licensed by the state to do that.
[01:09:24.340 --> 01:09:30.340]  So once they're licensed by the state to do that and they have the exclusive right based on their license,
[01:09:30.340 --> 01:09:42.340]  then they turn right around and force me into an unconscionable contract in order to take advantage of the right to travel.
[01:09:42.340 --> 01:09:47.340]  I'm still a traveler even though I am a passenger.
[01:09:47.340 --> 01:09:48.340]  I'm traveling.
[01:09:48.340 --> 01:09:51.340]  I'm not licensed by these guys.
[01:09:51.340 --> 01:09:52.340]  They're in commerce.
[01:09:52.340 --> 01:09:53.340]  I'm not.
[01:09:53.340 --> 01:09:55.340]  Well, Randy, wait a second.
[01:09:55.340 --> 01:09:56.340]  Hold on.
[01:09:56.340 --> 01:09:58.340]  Back up here.
[01:09:58.340 --> 01:10:01.340]  They don't have an exclusive right to anything.
[01:10:01.340 --> 01:10:06.340]  If they engage in a licensing scheme with the government, it's not a right.
[01:10:06.340 --> 01:10:08.340]  It's called a privilege.
[01:10:08.340 --> 01:10:17.340]  They're granted a certain privilege, but moving on from there, I understand what you're saying about the unconscionable nature of it.
[01:10:17.340 --> 01:10:33.340]  So this is where it comes down to your beef with the airline agency that they're trying to basically paint you into a corner with an unconscionable contract.
[01:10:33.340 --> 01:10:42.340]  And that's where when they present that contract to you, that's when you start making your modifications to it.
[01:10:42.340 --> 01:10:48.340]  And if they don't agree to the modifications, that's when you sue the airline.
[01:10:48.340 --> 01:10:55.340]  But all this has to happen before you walk into the airport.
[01:10:55.340 --> 01:10:56.340]  I agree with that.
[01:10:56.340 --> 01:10:58.340]  That's correct.
[01:10:58.340 --> 01:11:03.340]  There's one other issue concerning right to travel.
[01:11:03.340 --> 01:11:10.340]  If I hire a cab, then I pay the cabbie.
[01:11:10.340 --> 01:11:13.340]  The cabbie is in commerce.
[01:11:13.340 --> 01:11:14.340]  I'm not.
[01:11:14.340 --> 01:11:16.340]  No, you are because you're a passenger.
[01:11:16.340 --> 01:11:17.340]  No, I'm not.
[01:11:17.340 --> 01:11:22.340]  I am not being paid to transport anybody anywhere.
[01:11:22.340 --> 01:11:23.340]  He is.
[01:11:23.340 --> 01:11:25.340]  But you are great.
[01:11:25.340 --> 01:11:28.340]  Where does it say, where is that in law?
[01:11:28.340 --> 01:11:31.340]  Where do I get attached to an adhesive contract?
[01:11:31.340 --> 01:11:34.340]  I didn't petition the state for a license.
[01:11:34.340 --> 01:11:37.340]  I didn't agree to the regulatory scheme.
[01:11:37.340 --> 01:11:40.340]  I paid this guy to take me from point A to point B.
[01:11:40.340 --> 01:11:41.340]  I'm traveling.
[01:11:41.340 --> 01:11:42.340]  OK, wait a minute.
[01:11:42.340 --> 01:11:43.340]  Hold on.
[01:11:43.340 --> 01:11:44.340]  I'm not being paid.
[01:11:44.340 --> 01:11:45.340]  Hold on.
[01:11:45.340 --> 01:11:46.340]  Hold on.
[01:11:46.340 --> 01:11:50.340]  You're not being paid, Randy, but you're paying.
[01:11:50.340 --> 01:11:52.340]  OK, you're the passenger.
[01:11:52.340 --> 01:11:58.340]  And OK, we can bring Harmon on and we can discuss this because I've discussed this at length with him.
[01:11:58.340 --> 01:12:11.340]  In the eyes of commercial law, so to speak, it makes no difference whether you're the driver or the passenger or whether you're the so-called pilot or the passenger.
[01:12:11.340 --> 01:12:16.340]  It's the opposite sides of the coin of commerce.
[01:12:16.340 --> 01:12:35.340]  And so that's why I was saying in that initial contract before you ever even walk on the airport, you have to cross out that word passenger and write the word traveler because if you just click on that agreement and hand over your money, you're agreeing to be a passenger.
[01:12:35.340 --> 01:12:38.340]  You've just entered into that commercial contract.
[01:12:38.340 --> 01:12:47.340]  Well, no, wait a minute. Hold on. When I rent a cab, I don't fill out any contract.
[01:12:47.340 --> 01:12:51.340]  And I'm not subject to any regulatory scheme.
[01:12:51.340 --> 01:12:54.340]  I have not agreed to any regulatory scheme.
[01:12:54.340 --> 01:12:57.340]  I'm still traveling.
[01:12:57.340 --> 01:13:00.340]  My means of travel is not restricted.
[01:13:00.340 --> 01:13:16.340]  So how do I become bound to an adhesion contract I'm not aware of? Or how do I be forced into a contract or being denied the right to travel on the conveyance of my choice?
[01:13:16.340 --> 01:13:23.340]  They don't have any license on me.
[01:13:23.340 --> 01:13:31.340]  Well, this goes to a deeper issue of the funny money system. Okay, we need to bring harder.
[01:13:31.340 --> 01:13:45.340]  Okay. Yeah, we'd have to because funny money doesn't automatically bind me to every contract on the planet because there are contracts out there and they're associated with the funny money.
[01:13:45.340 --> 01:13:51.340]  They know I'm not bound to a contract unless I have full disclosure of that contract.
[01:13:51.340 --> 01:14:08.340]  And to say that because there's some contract hidden somewhere, some implied contract under contract law, I'm only bound to the contracts that I knowingly and with full disclosure enter into.
[01:14:08.340 --> 01:14:14.340]  That's contract law. It doesn't go away just because I'm dealing with a licensed agent.
[01:14:14.340 --> 01:14:21.340]  Okay. Well, wait a minute. That's the key. And I was just about to bring that up, Randy. The licensed agent is the entity. That's the key.
[01:14:21.340 --> 01:14:22.340]  He's licensed, not me.
[01:14:22.340 --> 01:14:38.340]  Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. Hear me out here. When you get in that cab or when, say, for example, you go to a hair salon or you go to a bar or a restaurant, what's the first thing you see?
[01:14:38.340 --> 01:14:49.340]  You see their license. All right. That is notice. That is notice to you that they are a licensed entity in commerce.
[01:14:49.340 --> 01:15:10.340]  And so it is our duty. It is our liability to realize that when we see that license, if we make the choice to enter into a contractual agreement with that entity, then we are participating in that license.
[01:15:10.340 --> 01:15:22.340]  Okay. I know that's a wicked paradigm shift. I know that sounds harsh and extreme, but that's the way it is. And that's why they display their license, to let you know.
[01:15:22.340 --> 01:15:24.340]  No. That is not why they display their license.
[01:15:24.340 --> 01:15:29.340]  Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, we'll bring on Harmon and Harmon will sell the site. Okay.
[01:15:29.340 --> 01:15:48.340]  They display their license because of statutory requirements. And also because of notice. So that before I enter into any kind of contract with them, I can have confidence that they are being bound to certain statutory.
[01:15:48.340 --> 01:15:55.340]  And guess what? You are bound to it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Fine, Randy. Okay. We'll see.
[01:15:55.340 --> 01:16:03.340]  That's an issue I've had with Harmon before. Okay. We'll see what Harmon says. Okay. All right. We're going to bring Harmon on. All right. We're almost to the break.
[01:16:03.340 --> 01:16:24.340]  But I'm telling you, all right, I'm telling you, when you see that license as a consumer or a passenger or whatever, a patron, and you agree to enter into commerce with that licensed entity, you have just agreed to the terms and conditions of that license as well.
[01:16:24.340 --> 01:16:38.340]  That's why it's called passenger. All right. Okay. So fine. All right. We're going to let's agree to disagree for now and we'll take the rest of our calls and we're going to get Harmon Taylor on and settle the issue in another week or so.
[01:16:38.340 --> 01:16:44.340]  That's going to be a great issue to have. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. We'll see. We'll see. Okay.
[01:16:44.340 --> 01:17:00.340]  Okay. This is Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens. We will go to our radio. Our call-in number, 512-646-1984, Mark Francis. We see you there. We will pick you up on the other side. We'll be right back.
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[01:20:31.340 --> 01:20:41.340]  We are going to let Harmon Taylor settle the issue and I guarantee you who is going to win.
[01:20:41.340 --> 01:20:55.340]  All right, that's all I'm going to say. I have agreed even though I'm right. All right, listen, listen, I'm telling you, you go into a business contract with an entity that has a posted license.
[01:20:55.340 --> 01:21:05.340]  And you have just agreed to the terms and conditions of their license. That's all there is to it. I'm not going to say anything else. Randy's like, well, where did I, you agreed out.
[01:21:05.340 --> 01:21:15.340]  Randy, here's where you agreed. You agreed because you entered into the, okay, you entered in the contract and you exchanged the money. We'll talk about it later.
[01:21:15.340 --> 01:21:29.340]  Let's go to Mark. We're going to go to our calls. Let's go to Mark in Washington. No, Wisconsin. Hello, Mark. Hello there, Mr. Kelton. How are you this evening?
[01:21:29.340 --> 01:21:43.340]  I am wonderful. Even if Deb is beating me up on the air. She'll do that. And you take it with good. She always wins our arguments. Darn it.
[01:21:43.340 --> 01:22:01.340]  One of my favorite shows is we took different sides on a Walmart issue. And she beat the socks off of me. Anyway, okay. What do you have for us tonight?
[01:22:01.340 --> 01:22:22.340]  Well, doesn't help or doesn't hurt matters that women tend to be right. I'm calling because I'm trying to figure out how to get a 10 or 18 USC Section 1001 in front of a DA and get them to care.
[01:22:22.340 --> 01:22:35.340]  Wait, wait, wait. What is 1001? Okay. Section 18 or 18 USC Section 1001 is as follows.
[01:22:35.340 --> 01:22:57.340]  Statements or entries generally except is otherwise provided in this section whomever in any manner which the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative or judicial branch of the government of the United States knowingly and willfully dash falsifies, conceals or covers up by tricks, scheme or device and material facts.
[01:22:57.340 --> 01:23:07.340]  Hold on. Per M2 makes any material false, fictitious or fraudulent statement. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Tampering is a government document. Well, it's lying on a government document.
[01:23:07.340 --> 01:23:16.340]  Okay. Yeah. That in Texas or in most states, that'll be called tampering in any manner falsifying the government document. Okay.
[01:23:16.340 --> 01:23:23.340]  Right. Right. Got it. That would be a federal 18 USC 1001. Now.
[01:23:23.340 --> 01:23:32.340]  Only if it's a federal document. This happens to be a trademark application. That'll work. That'll work.
[01:23:32.340 --> 01:23:43.340]  So, you know, in Wisconsin, as I've mentioned in the past, we've got our 96801 per M2. A person may make a complaint on information belief.
[01:23:43.340 --> 01:24:02.340]  The complaint shall be made upon oath before a DA or judge as provided in this chapter. And of course, I tried to take a complaint in front of a judge and he told me, oh, we prefer that you file this as a John Doe and didn't want to take my complaint and have it, you know, but make the oath.
[01:24:02.340 --> 01:24:09.340]  We tell them, you know, I tell them, I don't really care what you prefer.
[01:24:09.340 --> 01:24:16.340]  Here it is. I let it slide because I have other fish that weren't even frying that day.
[01:24:16.340 --> 01:24:33.340]  But I'm just curious since I have this USC 18 1001, I sent off a note to the US Patent and Trademark Office and they told me that we're not, we're going to keep it in the file.
[01:24:33.340 --> 01:24:48.340]  We're not able to be reviewed by the attorney reviewing this because that isn't our job. So obviously it's somebody else's job. How do I make it the DA's, the federal DA's job?
[01:24:48.340 --> 01:25:03.340]  You prepare a verified criminal affidavit. It is technically not even his job. It is technically the grand jury's job or the judge you gave it to in the first place.
[01:25:03.340 --> 01:25:21.340]  All right. And who needs to verify that? Just any parole? Any notary. Have a notary verify it and send it to that judge who told you how he preferred it. Send it to him in a verified format.
[01:25:21.340 --> 01:25:39.340]  Send it certified mail. For that particular purpose, you need to send it registered restricted. It'll cost you a little bit more, but under registered restricted, the judge himself has to sign for it if it's sent to him directly.
[01:25:39.340 --> 01:25:48.340]  What if I go ahead and send that off to the chief lawyer for the US Patent and Trademark?
[01:25:48.340 --> 01:25:51.340]  It invokes no duty on the part of the lawyer.
[01:25:51.340 --> 01:25:53.340]  Okay.
[01:25:53.340 --> 01:26:19.340]  It does invoke a duty on the part of the magistrate, the judge in his capacity as a magistrate. When the judge refuses to act, then you prepare a misfeasance complaint against the judge under 18 U.S. Code 242 and send that to the US attorney. And when the US attorney fails to present the complaint to the grand jury,
[01:26:19.340 --> 01:26:29.340]  you prepare a complaint against the US attorney and send it to the foreman of the grand jury by way of the US attorney's office.
[01:26:29.340 --> 01:26:49.340]  And when the US attorney calls you back and says he's not going to give it to the grand jury, then you prepare a mail tampering charge against the US attorney and a shielding from prosecution and obstruction of justice against the US attorney and send that back to the grand jury.
[01:26:49.340 --> 01:26:54.340]  And now they see things escalating and turning political.
[01:26:54.340 --> 01:26:55.340]  Okay.
[01:26:55.340 --> 01:27:09.340]  If you're going to get it done, that's how we're going to get it done. The US attorney has adopted the position of gatekeeper for the grand jury.
[01:27:09.340 --> 01:27:14.340]  And we got to pry him out of that position.
[01:27:14.340 --> 01:27:17.340]  He should have nothing to do with it.
[01:27:17.340 --> 01:27:21.340]  Magistrate straight to grand jury.
[01:27:21.340 --> 01:27:27.340]  The US attorney has stepped in the middle and you don't have any statutory authority to do that.
[01:27:27.340 --> 01:27:30.340]  Okay. And that's on the federal level then?
[01:27:30.340 --> 01:27:31.340]  Yes.
[01:27:31.340 --> 01:27:35.340]  Okay. I'll have to spend some time in the federal things.
[01:27:35.340 --> 01:27:50.340]  Now if I really want to make this an interesting politically sticky wicket, there's an affidavit sitting in one of the civil case by an attorney claiming that my buddy here
[01:27:50.340 --> 01:27:54.340]  had attempted to bribe him for $1,000.
[01:27:54.340 --> 01:28:11.340]  Now in my closed civil case with my buddy, it suddenly went from, you know, default judgment to an ex parte hearing and months of me attempting to get stuff done with that judge.
[01:28:11.340 --> 01:28:23.340]  And ultimately the only time anything happens is when the judge was replaced with a new judge and my case got bumped up one level on the appeal on one particular issue.
[01:28:23.340 --> 01:28:28.340]  Now of course this is a complaint on information and belief.
[01:28:28.340 --> 01:28:37.340]  Being that there is a document out there that says there was an attempt of a bribe of an attorney for $1,000,
[01:28:37.340 --> 01:28:46.340]  I have enough information and belief to claim that this friend of mine here, who I love so much,
[01:28:46.340 --> 01:28:56.340]  successfully bribed the judge who then went off and didn't do anything in my case and made things bad for me.
[01:28:56.340 --> 01:29:03.340]  You make that claim against that judge, it's going to get real sensitive around there.
[01:29:03.340 --> 01:29:05.340]  Yes, I know.
[01:29:05.340 --> 01:29:17.340]  If you can, by this method, entice anyone to come to you and give you sage advice
[01:29:17.340 --> 01:29:24.340]  about all the bad things that could possibly happen to you if you're not real careful.
[01:29:24.340 --> 01:29:31.340]  Now you get to go with tampering with witness obstruction of justice and really wind them up.
[01:29:31.340 --> 01:29:36.340]  Well, that sounds like a good time then.
[01:29:36.340 --> 01:29:39.340]  Okay, do you have anything else for us?
[01:29:39.340 --> 01:29:44.340]  I'm just, you know, I mean the attorney, well, on the other side.
[01:29:44.340 --> 01:29:48.340]  Okay, hang on, we will pick this back up on the other side.
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[01:34:13.340 --> 01:34:19.340]  Okay, we are back with Randy Caltz and David Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[01:34:19.340 --> 01:34:23.340]  and we're talking to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:34:23.340 --> 01:34:26.340]  Okay, Mark, where are you?
[01:34:26.340 --> 01:34:32.340]  All right, I wanted to ask a further question on the lawyer's affidavit.
[01:34:32.340 --> 01:34:36.340]  Since his affidavit is filed with a pending signature, et cetera,
[01:34:36.340 --> 01:34:39.340]  an actual signature on his statements,
[01:34:39.340 --> 01:34:44.340]  the rebuttal from my buddy was, haha, it was a joke,
[01:34:44.340 --> 01:34:47.340]  and that came out of his lawyer's mouth.
[01:34:47.340 --> 01:34:51.340]  I'm assuming the stronger piece of paper, which would be considered truth,
[01:34:51.340 --> 01:34:56.340]  would be the attorney's actual affidavit with the signature, correct?
[01:34:56.340 --> 01:34:59.340]  Wait a minute, he said it was a joke?
[01:34:59.340 --> 01:35:02.340]  Yep, that's right.
[01:35:02.340 --> 01:35:07.340]  And the judge in the case went with, I'm not even going to touch this,
[01:35:07.340 --> 01:35:11.340]  at which point the judge went off and was able to come to his conclusion
[01:35:11.340 --> 01:35:15.340]  and give the plaintiffs what they wanted via another method.
[01:35:15.340 --> 01:35:22.340]  So the attempted bribery or the attempted to pay an attorney to make a false statement
[01:35:22.340 --> 01:35:25.340]  wasn't even touched.
[01:35:25.340 --> 01:35:30.340]  Then the judge failed to apply the law to the facts.
[01:35:30.340 --> 01:35:31.340]  Okay.
[01:35:31.340 --> 01:35:38.340]  And here they come to the table with unclean hands and no man may be allowed to profit
[01:35:38.340 --> 01:35:41.340]  from his own misdeeds.
[01:35:41.340 --> 01:35:43.340]  Okay.
[01:35:43.340 --> 01:35:47.340]  I guess it would be hard to say he profited from his misdeeds.
[01:35:47.340 --> 01:35:54.340]  If he gave it to him based on another ground, then he just wasn't harmed by his misdeeds.
[01:35:54.340 --> 01:35:59.340]  But you can still claim the unclean hands, doctors.
[01:35:59.340 --> 01:36:04.340]  All right, and since judges also carry a notary stamp,
[01:36:04.340 --> 01:36:10.340]  just for the sheer yuck value on the 18 USC 1001,
[01:36:10.340 --> 01:36:13.340]  should I walk it into the head judge for the county
[01:36:13.340 --> 01:36:19.340]  and ask for them to verify my criminal complaint that I'll be sending off?
[01:36:19.340 --> 01:36:21.340]  No, don't.
[01:36:21.340 --> 01:36:25.340]  They will just refuse and they'll give you another fight.
[01:36:25.340 --> 01:36:29.340]  They'll give you a notary and then there can be no, there's no issue there.
[01:36:29.340 --> 01:36:30.340]  Okay.
[01:36:30.340 --> 01:36:34.340]  I would not, and I've tried to get judges to do it before and they get real excited
[01:36:34.340 --> 01:36:40.340]  and then I wind up filing against them and just, I need to pick my fights.
[01:36:40.340 --> 01:36:46.340]  I want to file against a judge something where I have a really good claim against him.
[01:36:46.340 --> 01:36:52.340]  While he is authorized to verify documents, I don't know,
[01:36:52.340 --> 01:36:59.340]  I have never seen where he is specifically required to do so.
[01:36:59.340 --> 01:37:05.340]  The closest that I could tell you is the state of Wisconsin, 1896801,
[01:37:05.340 --> 01:37:12.340]  where the complaint shall be made upon oath before a district attorney or judge.
[01:37:12.340 --> 01:37:16.340]  Ah, good, then it's made before the,
[01:37:16.340 --> 01:37:20.340]  good, then it's made before the judge, then that would tend to invoke his duty.
[01:37:20.340 --> 01:37:24.340]  And if he fails to act, that's because he's in office.
[01:37:24.340 --> 01:37:27.340]  That or doesn't give him an out?
[01:37:27.340 --> 01:37:32.340]  No, you can make it before either one.
[01:37:32.340 --> 01:37:38.340]  Oh, wow, okay, now a light goes on.
[01:37:38.340 --> 01:37:42.340]  Maybe I should save this for Friday in the big education night.
[01:37:42.340 --> 01:37:49.340]  Yeah, I've had people tell me that I remind them of a burned out light bulb.
[01:37:49.340 --> 01:37:53.340]  Not very bright at all.
[01:37:53.340 --> 01:37:55.340]  Yeah, well.
[01:37:55.340 --> 01:37:59.340]  Okay, but yeah, the judge had, that gives the judge a duty.
[01:37:59.340 --> 01:38:03.340]  Okay, wonderful.
[01:38:03.340 --> 01:38:07.340]  When you go to, that's what I told Bob Perkins that, you know, he said that,
[01:38:07.340 --> 01:38:13.340]  well, Mr. Kelton, district judges in Travis County don't take criminal complaints.
[01:38:13.340 --> 01:38:18.340]  I said, well, that's okay, Your Honor, I'm not here to invoke your duty as a district judge.
[01:38:18.340 --> 01:38:21.340]  I'm here to invoke your duty as a magistrate.
[01:38:21.340 --> 01:38:24.340]  And that's a duty from which you may not shield yourself.
[01:38:24.340 --> 01:38:26.340]  And that's the point here.
[01:38:26.340 --> 01:38:31.340]  You go there and invoke his duty as a magistrate and he can't shield himself from that.
[01:38:31.340 --> 01:38:33.340]  Okay.
[01:38:33.340 --> 01:38:34.340]  Okay.
[01:38:34.340 --> 01:38:36.340]  All right, thank you much.
[01:38:36.340 --> 01:38:37.340]  Okay, thank you.
[01:38:37.340 --> 01:38:38.340]  We're going to move ahead.
[01:38:38.340 --> 01:38:40.340]  We've got a couple of callers and two segments left.
[01:38:40.340 --> 01:38:42.340]  Thank you, Mark.
[01:38:42.340 --> 01:38:47.340]  We're going to go to Jim in Wisconsin.
[01:38:47.340 --> 01:38:49.340]  Hello, Jim, what do you have for us tonight?
[01:38:49.340 --> 01:38:51.340]  Hi, how are you?
[01:38:51.340 --> 01:38:53.340]  I'm good.
[01:38:53.340 --> 01:38:57.340]  In the event that you find yourself needing to hire an attorney,
[01:38:57.340 --> 01:39:02.340]  what kind of questions do you ask them when you go into an interview?
[01:39:02.340 --> 01:39:07.340]  Depends on the case.
[01:39:07.340 --> 01:39:12.340]  Well, the false arrest and, you know, excessive force type case.
[01:39:12.340 --> 01:39:14.340]  Oh, okay.
[01:39:14.340 --> 01:39:20.340]  You need to ask him specifically what are the elements.
[01:39:20.340 --> 01:39:27.340]  There's probably a hundred questions that I could ask because of what I do.
[01:39:27.340 --> 01:39:29.340]  You tell him what occurred and ask him,
[01:39:29.340 --> 01:39:33.340]  are all of the elements of the crime available to the prosecuting attorney?
[01:39:33.340 --> 01:39:35.340]  And if not, what elements are not available?
[01:39:35.340 --> 01:39:40.340]  And if you start asking him all of these questions, he's going to run like a rabbit.
[01:39:40.340 --> 01:39:43.340]  Well, I should have stipulated this is not the criminal side.
[01:39:43.340 --> 01:39:46.340]  The criminal side has already been adjudicated and they dropped charges.
[01:39:46.340 --> 01:39:48.340]  This is on the lawsuit side.
[01:39:48.340 --> 01:39:49.340]  Oh, okay, okay.
[01:39:49.340 --> 01:39:51.340]  Sorry about that.
[01:39:51.340 --> 01:39:57.340]  Okay, then ask him if he's, I don't know.
[01:39:57.340 --> 01:39:59.340]  It depends on the case.
[01:39:59.340 --> 01:40:01.340]  Okay.
[01:40:01.340 --> 01:40:08.340]  I would go to him with a timeline.
[01:40:08.340 --> 01:40:11.340]  This happened, this happened, this happened, this happened.
[01:40:11.340 --> 01:40:15.340]  Just walk down your timeline, make it up first, get all the way through it.
[01:40:15.340 --> 01:40:16.340]  Just put down what happened.
[01:40:16.340 --> 01:40:21.340]  No argument, no opinion, just what happened and when.
[01:40:21.340 --> 01:40:25.340]  And go back and look at it and you'll be surprised when you go back and look at it,
[01:40:25.340 --> 01:40:27.340]  how many details you'll fill in.
[01:40:27.340 --> 01:40:29.340]  Okay.
[01:40:29.340 --> 01:40:35.340]  Give that to him and then ask him to give you an evaluation of your case.
[01:40:35.340 --> 01:40:39.340]  What is the expectation of a positive outcome?
[01:40:39.340 --> 01:40:44.340]  What is the anticipated cost?
[01:40:44.340 --> 01:40:48.340]  What do you expect to do and how long will it take?
[01:40:48.340 --> 01:40:52.340]  There's not a whole lot you can ask him beyond that.
[01:40:52.340 --> 01:40:59.340]  Now, once he's taken the case, there's a whole lot you can do to him to bind him to your case.
[01:40:59.340 --> 01:41:07.340]  You know, even if it's in your contract that he can withdraw any time he wants to,
[01:41:07.340 --> 01:41:14.340]  they all have that in their contract, but the courts have held that that is unconscionable
[01:41:14.340 --> 01:41:22.340]  because you pay him for a service and all of the lawyers, including the contract,
[01:41:22.340 --> 01:41:31.340]  this unconscionable provision that provides you with no benefit
[01:41:31.340 --> 01:41:40.340]  and you can't get a lawyer without it, so the enforcement, your not agreeing to this contract
[01:41:40.340 --> 01:41:43.340]  would deny you your right to counsel of choice.
[01:41:43.340 --> 01:41:47.340]  So they said they can't enforce it.
[01:41:47.340 --> 01:41:55.340]  When he, you know, once you have him, then if you tell him what you want to do
[01:41:55.340 --> 01:41:59.340]  and like I did mine when they appointed one for me,
[01:41:59.340 --> 01:42:01.340]  I didn't ask them to appoint an attorney.
[01:42:01.340 --> 01:42:06.340]  They wanted me to have one and asked me if, and the judge told me that,
[01:42:06.340 --> 01:42:09.340]  she asked me if I was going to appoint counsel.
[01:42:09.340 --> 01:42:11.340]  I said, no.
[01:42:11.340 --> 01:42:13.340]  Would you like me to appoint counsel?
[01:42:13.340 --> 01:42:14.340]  I don't care what you do.
[01:42:14.340 --> 01:42:16.340]  Well, then I'm going to appoint you counsel.
[01:42:16.340 --> 01:42:20.340]  And I told you, we'll make sure you appoint one what you really don't like.
[01:42:20.340 --> 01:42:25.340]  She appointed counsel and I kicked his behind.
[01:42:25.340 --> 01:42:31.340]  And this is what you, one of the things you can do, the lawyer,
[01:42:31.340 --> 01:42:36.340]  when he takes over your case, you think he's on your side.
[01:42:36.340 --> 01:42:37.340]  He's not.
[01:42:37.340 --> 01:42:39.340]  He's on his side.
[01:42:39.340 --> 01:42:41.340]  He's in business to make money.
[01:42:41.340 --> 01:42:44.340]  And he will look at you and look at your case
[01:42:44.340 --> 01:42:47.340]  and try to estimate how much money he can extract from the case.
[01:42:47.340 --> 01:42:49.340]  It's a really good case.
[01:42:49.340 --> 01:42:53.340]  He can go in, get a quick deal, get a percentage of the deal and walk away.
[01:42:53.340 --> 01:42:56.340]  If it's a hard case, he wants to see how much money you got,
[01:42:56.340 --> 01:42:58.340]  see how much money he can get out of you.
[01:42:58.340 --> 01:43:02.340]  And then he'll make a deal with the other side to let the case go away.
[01:43:02.340 --> 01:43:03.340]  That's what they do.
[01:43:03.340 --> 01:43:06.340]  You need to understand that going in.
[01:43:06.340 --> 01:43:09.340]  And once you get in, you don't let him make a deal.
[01:43:09.340 --> 01:43:15.340]  If he tries to back out, then you notify him that if he tries to back out,
[01:43:15.340 --> 01:43:19.340]  you'll sue him for malpractice and bar grieving.
[01:43:19.340 --> 01:43:24.340]  But don't tell him all that stuff on the front end or he'll never take your case.
[01:43:24.340 --> 01:43:26.340]  Okay.
[01:43:26.340 --> 01:43:31.340]  Not knowing all the details, I really don't know much more to tell you.
[01:43:31.340 --> 01:43:32.340]  Okay.
[01:43:32.340 --> 01:43:35.340]  I just wanted to see how you go about getting a good attorney.
[01:43:35.340 --> 01:43:36.340]  A good attorney?
[01:43:36.340 --> 01:43:37.340]  Now, wait a minute.
[01:43:37.340 --> 01:43:41.340]  That's a contradiction of good and attorney is a contradiction of terms.
[01:43:41.340 --> 01:43:45.340]  Randy Kelton there with Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:43:45.340 --> 01:43:47.340]  Francis, we will pick you up on the other side.
[01:43:47.340 --> 01:43:51.340]  I know you have been having a lot of fun grieving attorneys.
[01:43:51.340 --> 01:43:55.340]  We're going to our last segment, so I won't even get out to call any number.
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[01:46:32.340 --> 01:46:38.340]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're going to Francis in Colorado.
[01:46:38.340 --> 01:46:41.340]  Hello, Ms. Francis.
[01:46:41.340 --> 01:46:43.340]  Well, I was going to ask you one question.
[01:46:43.340 --> 01:46:44.340]  Now I got another.
[01:46:44.340 --> 01:46:47.340]  We got something in the mail, and I probably need to attend to it.
[01:46:47.340 --> 01:46:50.340]  I'll ask my real estate question tomorrow night.
[01:46:50.340 --> 01:46:53.340]  We got something in the mail from these.
[01:46:53.340 --> 01:46:58.340]  This is with my mother-in-law in South Dakota, where my husband showed up on Monday.
[01:46:58.340 --> 01:47:05.340]  And basically the conservator and the conservator's attorney showed up,
[01:47:05.340 --> 01:47:13.340]  and the hearing was only about agency for the alleged attorney for the mother, where she lacked capacity.
[01:47:13.340 --> 01:47:19.340]  And they told them that agency was decided, and now we need to, and I don't know when that was, and they didn't show any proof.
[01:47:19.340 --> 01:47:23.340]  And so we got all the information to file an appeal.
[01:47:23.340 --> 01:47:29.340]  And because everything was done, if they don't have agency, there's no way they could have agency.
[01:47:29.340 --> 01:47:31.340]  So it's a fraud.
[01:47:31.340 --> 01:47:33.340]  The whole thing is a fraud.
[01:47:33.340 --> 01:47:41.340]  But the conservator and her attorney showed up and started talking about the motions, et cetera,
[01:47:41.340 --> 01:47:45.340]  that were set to be heard this coming Monday on the 28th.
[01:47:45.340 --> 01:47:52.340]  And we have filed a whole bunch of motions and different things that needed to be done.
[01:47:52.340 --> 01:48:01.340]  Galen did bring up that he, if the judge would rule on his motion to compel the conservator to reimburse him for his costs
[01:48:01.340 --> 01:48:07.340]  and also to advance a retainer for an attorney, since we're out of state, don't know that state.
[01:48:07.340 --> 01:48:10.340]  It's a long way away, seven-hour drive.
[01:48:10.340 --> 01:48:17.340]  And he refused at that point, and today we get in the mail, that every motion he's filed, she wants to deny.
[01:48:17.340 --> 01:48:25.340]  And every motion she's filed, of course, she wants to grant, which would mean that Galen would basically lose control of his mother.
[01:48:25.340 --> 01:48:27.340]  I believe they'll then reassign another guardian.
[01:48:27.340 --> 01:48:32.340]  I mean, literally, they're going to take this woman, keep her in a skilled nursing.
[01:48:32.340 --> 01:48:33.340]  Okay.
[01:48:33.340 --> 01:48:37.340]  Have you put together the criminal charges against the judge?
[01:48:37.340 --> 01:48:38.340]  You know what?
[01:48:38.340 --> 01:48:40.340]  I have not yet.
[01:48:40.340 --> 01:48:43.340]  I have my bankruptcy thing that's due on Monday.
[01:48:43.340 --> 01:48:49.340]  I guess I better, like, I mean, I will just have to, you know, be in the chair.
[01:48:49.340 --> 01:49:01.340]  Get the bankruptcy done first, and then you file a notice of appeal of the judge's rulings, and then file criminally against the judge.
[01:49:01.340 --> 01:49:05.340]  You might look at South Dakota law.
[01:49:05.340 --> 01:49:15.340]  There is going to be a remedy in law where public officials get together and act in concert inclusion.
[01:49:15.340 --> 01:49:20.340]  You might look at a RICO suit against them if they don't have another remedy.
[01:49:20.340 --> 01:49:25.340]  In Texas, we have a remedy called a court of inquiry.
[01:49:25.340 --> 01:49:26.340]  Okay.
[01:49:26.340 --> 01:49:30.340]  You can petition for a court of inquiry.
[01:49:30.340 --> 01:49:40.340]  If they don't have that in South Dakota, you might, is this a district judge or a county judge?
[01:49:40.340 --> 01:49:42.340]  It's a district judge.
[01:49:42.340 --> 01:49:43.340]  Okay.
[01:49:43.340 --> 01:49:53.340]  You might find the head district judge of the district, or see if they have a head administrative judge.
[01:49:53.340 --> 01:50:01.340]  The judge that you would go to with a motion to disqualify a district judge.
[01:50:01.340 --> 01:50:06.340]  In Texas, we have an administrative judge for that purpose.
[01:50:06.340 --> 01:50:11.340]  You may have judges there appointed for that purpose.
[01:50:11.340 --> 01:50:16.340]  Go to that judge and ask to open up an inquiry.
[01:50:16.340 --> 01:50:33.340]  If there is no provision in South Dakota law, ask the judge to impanel or initiate an inquiry on the order of a court of inquiry
[01:50:33.340 --> 01:50:42.340]  as defined by Texas law under Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, Title 51.
[01:50:42.340 --> 01:50:51.340]  This goes under full faith and credit, but since South Dakota law has not addressed this issue, and it has been addressed in Texas,
[01:50:51.340 --> 01:50:58.340]  you would ask the court under full faith and credit to report the provision for a court of inquiry to South Dakota
[01:50:58.340 --> 01:51:07.340]  and institute an inquiry into the behavior of this judge and these lawyers.
[01:51:07.340 --> 01:51:10.340]  You don't care what they do.
[01:51:10.340 --> 01:51:22.340]  That puts them on notice, and then you get the judge who refuses to do it, then you name him in the WICO suit,
[01:51:22.340 --> 01:51:34.340]  and he is really going to be unhappy when he gets named because of garbage somebody else is doing.
[01:51:34.340 --> 01:51:36.340]  Does that make sense?
[01:51:36.340 --> 01:51:37.340]  Okay.
[01:51:37.340 --> 01:51:39.340]  I think so.
[01:51:39.340 --> 01:51:46.340]  So basically, I'm going to do some research on South Dakota law and find out if they have this other stuff
[01:51:46.340 --> 01:51:49.340]  and see if I can find a head administrative judge.
[01:51:49.340 --> 01:51:51.340]  Now, this is elder abuse.
[01:51:51.340 --> 01:51:55.340]  Should I get the state attorney involved at this point or should I leave that alone for now?
[01:51:55.340 --> 01:52:03.340]  Wait until you have your – have you done the research on elder abuse for North Dakota?
[01:52:03.340 --> 01:52:05.340]  They don't have too much in South Dakota.
[01:52:05.340 --> 01:52:11.340]  We have a huge, completely fleshed out one of a kind in the county where we're living,
[01:52:11.340 --> 01:52:23.340]  and I contacted them yesterday to ask them if they could please just have someone educate me about what I would be needing to do.
[01:52:23.340 --> 01:52:28.340]  The difference between when we went to the police a year ago and now is that we have a bank statement
[01:52:28.340 --> 01:52:34.340]  that shows the brother took $30,000 – well, we don't know how much, but he had $30,000 when he died in July.
[01:52:34.340 --> 01:52:36.340]  And that wasn't his money.
[01:52:36.340 --> 01:52:41.340]  And from the bank right after, she took her to the bank and had her close all of her accounts,
[01:52:41.340 --> 01:52:44.340]  and she doesn't remember any of that because she's incompetent.
[01:52:44.340 --> 01:52:48.340]  And Galen was power of attorney, you know, had sent them a notice.
[01:52:48.340 --> 01:52:56.340]  Now, there is no notice in any of this court that Galen – that they ever recognized that Galen was power of attorney,
[01:52:56.340 --> 01:52:59.340]  and yet that document was signed when she was competent.
[01:52:59.340 --> 01:53:03.340]  And when Galen was up there, he put it into the public record.
[01:53:03.340 --> 01:53:12.340]  So sue the bank for the amount, and the bank is going to get excited.
[01:53:12.340 --> 01:53:18.340]  And the bank is going to go to these guys and say, guys, do something to get this guy off my behind.
[01:53:18.340 --> 01:53:22.340]  That'll get you some politics.
[01:53:22.340 --> 01:53:27.340]  Okay. So I sue the bank for the entire amount of all of her – I mean, they're going – they're running through her investments.
[01:53:27.340 --> 01:53:28.340]  I have no idea.
[01:53:28.340 --> 01:53:37.340]  They're refusing – she was – the conservator was duty bound by law to file a 60-day audit with everyone.
[01:53:37.340 --> 01:53:38.340]  We never got that.
[01:53:38.340 --> 01:53:39.340]  We filed a motion for that.
[01:53:39.340 --> 01:53:47.340]  We filed a motion to strike her, you know, her inventory of Mrs. Amerson's stuff because there wasn't anybody there.
[01:53:47.340 --> 01:53:51.340]  She undervalued the trailer, and she's overvalued the car.
[01:53:51.340 --> 01:53:53.340]  They're trying to extort funds.
[01:53:53.340 --> 01:53:54.340]  This is the same people.
[01:53:54.340 --> 01:53:59.340]  You need – you're going to – in order to stop this, you need the RICO sued in.
[01:53:59.340 --> 01:54:00.340]  Okay.
[01:54:00.340 --> 01:54:04.340]  We filed the RICO sued in Colorado.
[01:54:04.340 --> 01:54:07.340]  These guys are going to get excited.
[01:54:07.340 --> 01:54:12.340]  Okay. So, well, now do I have to file the tort letter first, though, I thought?
[01:54:12.340 --> 01:54:14.340]  Notice of intent to sue?
[01:54:14.340 --> 01:54:15.340]  No. This is RICO.
[01:54:15.340 --> 01:54:16.340]  This is different.
[01:54:16.340 --> 01:54:19.340]  RICO doesn't require a tort letter.
[01:54:19.340 --> 01:54:21.340]  Okay. Do I go to the attorneys down here?
[01:54:21.340 --> 01:54:22.340]  Is it criminal?
[01:54:22.340 --> 01:54:23.340]  Do they –
[01:54:23.340 --> 01:54:31.340]  Yeah, this is – well, this is – it's technically civil, but this gets filed in the federal court in Colorado, so –
[01:54:31.340 --> 01:54:32.340]  Okay.
[01:54:32.340 --> 01:54:35.340]  Because you're in Colorado.
[01:54:35.340 --> 01:54:43.340]  And in your – Galen is the one being harmed by this, so he's harmed in Colorado.
[01:54:43.340 --> 01:54:49.340]  This makes it diversity jurisdiction, and since you're in Colorado, you get to choose the venue.
[01:54:49.340 --> 01:54:50.340]  Okay.
[01:54:50.340 --> 01:54:58.340]  So when they have to come to Colorado for a federal RICO suit, plus more bar grievances,
[01:54:58.340 --> 01:55:00.340]  they're going to get real unhappy.
[01:55:00.340 --> 01:55:08.340]  They're going to have to hire a lawyer in Colorado, and when he finds out you've been grieving them,
[01:55:08.340 --> 01:55:10.340]  he's going to know you're going to be grieving him.
[01:55:10.340 --> 01:55:12.340]  He's going to charge them not yin-yang.
[01:55:12.340 --> 01:55:15.340]  It's going to get real expensive for them.
[01:55:15.340 --> 01:55:20.340]  Well, and is there a way to stop them from using Mrs. Amerson's money?
[01:55:20.340 --> 01:55:26.340]  The federal RICO suit, you can ask for a restraining order.
[01:55:26.340 --> 01:55:29.340]  Okay. I do. Okay.
[01:55:29.340 --> 01:55:38.340]  And I think you sent me the – I think you sent me that stuff the other day.
[01:55:38.340 --> 01:55:39.340]  Did you –
[01:55:39.340 --> 01:55:40.340]  Agency.
[01:55:40.340 --> 01:55:46.340]  Well, yeah, so we're going to file – we would file a RICO in agency, right?
[01:55:46.340 --> 01:55:49.340]  Well, agency is one of the primary issues.
[01:55:49.340 --> 01:56:00.340]  The other one is churning and an ongoing criminal conspiracy to steal all this woman's money.
[01:56:00.340 --> 01:56:02.340]  Okay.
[01:56:02.340 --> 01:56:06.340]  And that's something that will resonate with a jury.
[01:56:06.340 --> 01:56:11.340]  Okay.
[01:56:11.340 --> 01:56:12.340]  Okay.
[01:56:12.340 --> 01:56:16.340]  Well, I will get it written up, and it may be, you know, over the weekend,
[01:56:16.340 --> 01:56:18.340]  and then I'll shoot it past you.
[01:56:18.340 --> 01:56:20.340]  So I don't have to file the tort letter.
[01:56:20.340 --> 01:56:22.340]  We can just go straight into the federal court.
[01:56:22.340 --> 01:56:23.340]  Yes.
[01:56:23.340 --> 01:56:27.340]  And let me – send me a Skype and remind me.
[01:56:27.340 --> 01:56:36.340]  I will look into my blank forms and see if I have a form for RICO.
[01:56:36.340 --> 01:56:38.340]  I'm pretty sure I do.
[01:56:38.340 --> 01:56:39.340]  Okay.
[01:56:39.340 --> 01:56:42.340]  It gives me the basic format and such.
[01:56:42.340 --> 01:56:43.340]  Okay.
[01:56:43.340 --> 01:56:44.340]  All right.
[01:56:44.340 --> 01:56:45.340]  Well, how close are we?
[01:56:45.340 --> 01:56:50.340]  Can I send you a question for tomorrow night by Skype, too, so that –
[01:56:50.340 --> 01:56:51.340]  Absolutely.
[01:56:51.340 --> 01:56:52.340]  Absolutely.
[01:56:52.340 --> 01:56:53.340]  Okay.
[01:56:53.340 --> 01:56:54.340]  I will do that.
[01:56:54.340 --> 01:56:57.340]  Boy, he's wonderful.
[01:56:57.340 --> 01:56:58.340]  And so are you.
[01:56:58.340 --> 01:57:03.340]  Thank you so much for taking this call and for –
[01:57:03.340 --> 01:57:04.340]  Okay.
[01:57:04.340 --> 01:57:07.340]  Why does the microphone smell like garlic?
[01:57:07.340 --> 01:57:10.340]  You know, I have no idea.
[01:57:10.340 --> 01:57:15.340]  You know, what I get – people give me – I get to – like, people like being in a different line.
[01:57:15.340 --> 01:57:18.340]  There's lots of benefits to this.
[01:57:18.340 --> 01:57:22.340]  No one is complaining about it.
[01:57:22.340 --> 01:57:24.340]  Ms. Francis has been taking garlic.
[01:57:24.340 --> 01:57:28.340]  It was a reference to that.
[01:57:28.340 --> 01:57:29.340]  Okay.
[01:57:29.340 --> 01:57:31.340]  We are about out of time.
[01:57:31.340 --> 01:57:32.340]  Thank you, Ms. Francis.
[01:57:32.340 --> 01:57:34.340]  And I will be talking to you.
[01:57:34.340 --> 01:57:40.340]  Just send me an email and I will bring the question tomorrow night.
[01:57:40.340 --> 01:57:44.340]  This is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Root of Law Radio.
[01:57:44.340 --> 01:57:47.340]  We thank you all for listening.
[01:57:47.340 --> 01:57:49.340]  This is our Thursday night show.
[01:57:49.340 --> 01:57:54.340]  We will be back tomorrow for our four-hour info marathon.
[01:57:54.340 --> 01:58:01.340]  The first two hours we're going to start devoting to the foreclosure issue.
[01:58:01.340 --> 01:58:04.340]  And we will be taking calls all night.
[01:58:04.340 --> 01:58:06.340]  We prefer the first two hours on foreclosure,
[01:58:06.340 --> 01:58:09.340]  but if we don't get a lot of questions on foreclosure,
[01:58:09.340 --> 01:58:12.340]  we'll just go to regular calls anyway.
[01:58:12.340 --> 01:58:20.340]  I'm going to try to do some early – some presentments so that I have some archives
[01:58:20.340 --> 01:58:25.340]  that people can go to to get the basic information on foreclosures.
[01:58:25.340 --> 01:58:27.340]  And once we get that one structured out,
[01:58:27.340 --> 01:58:33.340]  then we'll go to due process and see if we can't get a lot of good information available to you.
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