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[00:11.000 --> 00:17.000]  I'm Brian Hagan with your Liberty Beat for Wednesday, October 16th, 2013.
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[00:59.000 --> 01:06.000]  North Carolina has decided to cut welfare benefits as a result of lack of federal funding during the partial government shutdown.
[01:06.000 --> 01:17.000]  The Department of Health and Human Services sent out a letter to its local offices ordering a halt to processing November applications until a deal is reached to end the federal standstill.
[01:17.000 --> 01:29.000]  The workers will continue to accept applications for the Work First program, but will not process them until the shutdown comes to an end.
[01:29.000 --> 01:35.000]  A new Gallup poll shows an overwhelming number of Americans willing to support a third party.
[01:35.000 --> 01:38.000]  The findings come in light of the government shutdown.
[01:38.000 --> 01:47.000]  The poll indicates that 60% of Americans believe the Democrats and Republicans do such a poor job of representing the citizens that a major third party is needed.
[01:47.000 --> 01:50.000]  That's the highest Gallup has measured in the 10-year history of the question.
[01:50.000 --> 01:57.000]  Only 26%, representing a new low, believe the two-party system is working.
[01:57.000 --> 02:01.000]  And today, on the Liberty Beat, we pose the question.
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[04:23.000 --> 04:33.000]  All right, bad boys, bad boys.
[04:33.000 --> 04:39.000]  What are you going to do when we come for you here on the Rule of Law?
[04:39.000 --> 04:44.000]  Tonight is Thursday, October 17th, 2013.
[04:44.000 --> 04:46.000]  I am Deborah Stevens.
[04:46.000 --> 04:49.000]  I am here with my co-host, Randy Kelton.
[04:49.000 --> 04:58.000]  And tonight we're going to take a little bit of a departure just for a few segments on answering legal questions and presenting legal material.
[04:58.000 --> 05:04.000]  We are going to get into some legal issues, but with our guests, that's the reason why we're taking a slight departure here.
[05:04.000 --> 05:06.000]  We have a guest tonight.
[05:06.000 --> 05:11.000]  And we do like to take slight departures occasionally from just strictly discussing legal issues
[05:11.000 --> 05:15.000]  and teaching people how to navigate the court systems on their own
[05:15.000 --> 05:24.000]  so that we can talk about issues of importance in other areas of our lives, namely health, mainly health.
[05:24.000 --> 05:27.000]  And so tonight we're going to take a little bit of a departure for a few segments.
[05:27.000 --> 05:29.000]  We have this very special guest.
[05:29.000 --> 05:33.000]  She is an author, a local author here in Austin.
[05:33.000 --> 05:36.000]  Her name is Nisha Whiteley.
[05:36.000 --> 05:45.000]  And her Web site is chronicrelief.com for those of you out there that know what the chronic is.
[05:45.000 --> 05:50.000]  You'll understand the double entendre here, the play on words.
[05:50.000 --> 06:02.000]  Of course, chronic relief is about medical marijuana, cannabis, and its medical benefits that have been basically suppressed,
[06:02.000 --> 06:10.000]  the knowledge of which has been suppressed, I might add, by the powers that be, the pharmaceutical industry, et cetera,
[06:10.000 --> 06:13.000]  that basically don't want people knowing about this.
[06:13.000 --> 06:19.000]  They want to keep it illegal because it could probably put the entire pharmaceutical business out of business,
[06:19.000 --> 06:26.000]  the entire pharmaceutical industry out of business because it has just so many health benefits, anti-cancer properties.
[06:26.000 --> 06:34.000]  It can actually help people to totally get themselves to a point where they're completely cancer-free, even after they have cancer.
[06:34.000 --> 06:39.000]  I've done a lot of research on the medical uses of marijuana.
[06:39.000 --> 06:41.000]  And of course, anything can be abused.
[06:41.000 --> 06:44.000]  That's not to say that it cannot be abused.
[06:44.000 --> 06:51.000]  But as far as I know, there have been no deaths as a result of too much marijuana.
[06:51.000 --> 06:54.000]  But there, of course, have been a lot of alcohol-related deaths.
[06:54.000 --> 07:03.000]  It's just kind of ridiculous, this whole prohibition and the war on this plant that has so many uses that God created and put on this earth.
[07:03.000 --> 07:10.000]  And even in the Bible, it says that He created all herbs for our use and for our benefit.
[07:10.000 --> 07:17.000]  And this is definitely a very useful and beneficial plant that our good Lord God creator made for us
[07:17.000 --> 07:22.000]  and I just think is completely evil, this war on the good herb, so to speak.
[07:22.000 --> 07:24.000]  So that's my opinion.
[07:24.000 --> 07:25.000]  That's my take on the matter.
[07:25.000 --> 07:35.000]  And we have an expert on tonight, Nisha Whiteley, who's going to be discussing the benefits of medical marijuana, how she got into this research and her book.
[07:35.000 --> 07:40.000]  And so, Nisha, thank you and welcome to the show tonight.
[07:40.000 --> 07:41.000]  Thank you, Debra.
[07:41.000 --> 07:43.000]  I really appreciate it.
[07:43.000 --> 07:53.000]  It's great to have an opportunity to speak with a wider audience about what has been my passion project for the last 18, 20 months.
[07:53.000 --> 07:54.000]  Wonderful.
[07:54.000 --> 07:58.000]  Now, we have a mutual friend, Karen Renick, from Vote Rescue.
[07:58.000 --> 08:01.000]  And, of course, we've had her on as a guest many times.
[08:01.000 --> 08:04.000]  She actually had her on show for a while.
[08:04.000 --> 08:06.000]  And so that's how I got introduced to you.
[08:06.000 --> 08:12.000]  And so I want to give a big shout out to Karen Renick out there at Vote Rescue, voterescue.org.
[08:12.000 --> 08:19.000]  And so she was mentioning to me that you got involved in this research because your mother had cancer.
[08:19.000 --> 08:27.000]  And so I just wanted you to – I didn't want to tell your story for you, but I wanted you to, you know, give a little bit of background about yourself
[08:27.000 --> 08:32.000]  and how you got into this research and what happened with your mother and what led you down this path.
[08:32.000 --> 08:34.000]  And then we can get into some of the research you've done.
[08:34.000 --> 08:40.000]  So start off with telling your story of your mom and how you got into this.
[08:40.000 --> 08:42.000]  Thank you.
[08:42.000 --> 08:49.000]  My mom suffered from lung cancer for about 30 months before she died.
[08:49.000 --> 08:54.000]  And at the end of her life, she decided that she wanted to utilize cannabis.
[08:54.000 --> 09:02.000]  She had done some integrative treatments such as IV vitamin C, also traditional chemo.
[09:02.000 --> 09:12.000]  She also had the tumorous lobe in her lung removed and she tried nutrition and a whole bunch of different things.
[09:12.000 --> 09:20.000]  And at the point when my mom realized that death was imminent,
[09:20.000 --> 09:27.000]  she started having a lot of horrible side effects that really decreased her quality of life.
[09:27.000 --> 09:32.000]  I mean, any type of chemo treatment is going to do that.
[09:32.000 --> 09:38.000]  But the longer she went through the treatment, the more toxicity compounded in her body.
[09:38.000 --> 09:47.000]  And probably the very worst side effect for my mother was the nausea and the vomiting.
[09:47.000 --> 09:50.000]  That was sort of the ultimate indignity to her.
[09:50.000 --> 09:56.000]  And she just finally said one day, she's like, I have to try cannabis.
[09:56.000 --> 10:04.000]  And so for us, we thought that if it just addressed the nausea and the vomiting, that that would be a win.
[10:04.000 --> 10:07.000]  But it did so much more for her than that.
[10:07.000 --> 10:10.000]  It reduced pain throughout her body.
[10:10.000 --> 10:14.000]  When a person goes through chemo, they often have nerve damage.
[10:14.000 --> 10:25.000]  And that nerve damage creates neuropathy, which is horrible pain that very few pharmaceuticals can effectively address.
[10:25.000 --> 10:28.000]  And the cannabis gave her relief from that.
[10:28.000 --> 10:37.000]  It relieved her anxiousness and it actually made it possible for her to be comfortable in her own body.
[10:37.000 --> 10:47.000]  And probably the greatest gift for my family was the fact that it made it possible for her to be present in those precious days before she passed.
[10:47.000 --> 10:59.000]  Whereas had she not been utilizing the cannabis, she would have been so uncomfortable that there would have been no real quality time.
[10:59.000 --> 11:02.000]  And we had that quality time with her before she died.
[11:02.000 --> 11:07.000]  So, you know, we're really grateful that she decided to utilize cannabis.
[11:07.000 --> 11:13.000]  And she did not smoke or use a vaporizer.
[11:13.000 --> 11:18.000]  She ate food that was made from cannabis butter.
[11:18.000 --> 11:28.000]  And the reason was that we thought that for somebody who had lung cancer probably wouldn't be a very good idea for them to smoke.
[11:28.000 --> 11:29.000]  And that is true.
[11:29.000 --> 11:38.000]  But at the time, we didn't know very much about cannabis and we're not aware really of the merits of vaporization.
[11:38.000 --> 11:41.000]  And so we went down the cooking road.
[11:41.000 --> 11:53.000]  And after my mom passed, I thought, what could I do to help people benefit from the knowledge that we gained and some of the foods that we were able to develop for her?
[11:53.000 --> 12:06.000]  Because another thing that happens when somebody goes through cancer treatment is that they oftentimes lose the taste for foods that once were very pleasing or satisfying to them.
[12:06.000 --> 12:11.000]  And food in general just, you know, doesn't sound good. It doesn't taste good.
[12:11.000 --> 12:15.000]  Or the idea of it doesn't sound good to them. They just don't want to eat.
[12:15.000 --> 12:20.000]  And so we were trying to figure out ways to make it palatable to my mom to eat.
[12:20.000 --> 12:26.000]  And we were successful. And so I thought that I'd start with an e-cookbook of sorts.
[12:26.000 --> 12:32.000]  And so to write the intro to that, I thought I should do some research.
[12:32.000 --> 12:43.000]  And along the way, I kept discovering more and more and more information about cannabis that I couldn't really overlook.
[12:43.000 --> 12:55.000]  And what I was learning is that there is an extraordinary body of science that shows that cannabis is a safe, effective, and versatile medicine.
[12:55.000 --> 13:06.000]  So I wondered, you know, then why is it illegal? Why isn't everybody aware of all this plant can do?
[13:06.000 --> 13:10.000]  Its safety, its versatility, its effectiveness.
[13:10.000 --> 13:15.000]  And probably there were two things that really caught my attention.
[13:15.000 --> 13:27.000]  One was the fact that the U.S. government holds two patents on the cannabis plant, one as a neuroprotectant, and the other as an antioxidant.
[13:27.000 --> 13:34.000]  That's the same government that says that cannabis has no known medical value.
[13:34.000 --> 13:43.000]  That's why it sits on the Schedule I classification, which means that it's also highly addictive, according to the government.
[13:43.000 --> 13:48.000]  But yet there are two patents held by the government.
[13:48.000 --> 13:51.000]  And so that really caught my attention.
[13:51.000 --> 14:03.000]  And the further I went down the road, the more I realized that, you know, there's no reason to be afraid of this plant and that it has extraordinary healing benefits.
[14:03.000 --> 14:19.000]  And I felt like there was a gap in information between the science and practical application and so much of what people were hearing about cannabis was really from the recreational camp.
[14:19.000 --> 14:27.000]  And there was a great deal of judgment around the use of cannabis as medicine or for recreation.
[14:27.000 --> 14:38.000]  And what I've come to learn is that, you know, it's time for us to dissolve the cloud of shame, secrecy, and controversy around the use of this legitimate medicine.
[14:38.000 --> 14:43.000]  And writing this book is a way for me to help do that.
[14:43.000 --> 14:49.000]  And Nisha, I think it's a fabulous enterprise and I wholeheartedly support what you're doing.
[14:49.000 --> 15:02.000]  And yes, there has been propaganda for decades against the good herb and you hit the nail right on the head as far as why all the negative press, why all the negative propaganda,
[15:02.000 --> 15:13.000]  why is this thing classified as a Schedule A drug, which means no known, you know, medical use or no legitimate use, et cetera, et cetera.
[15:13.000 --> 15:22.000]  And it is because it has so many incredible health benefits and you can't really patent a plant.
[15:22.000 --> 15:26.000]  You have to patent a chemical variation of it.
[15:26.000 --> 15:29.000]  You can't patent a natural extract from a plant.
[15:29.000 --> 15:38.000]  It has to be something that is somewhat altered somehow chemically in order for somebody to actually own it with a patent.
[15:38.000 --> 15:48.000]  And there is a, and I'm sure you know all this, there is a synthetic form of the THC that is found in marijuana and that drug is called Marinal.
[15:48.000 --> 15:55.000]  But it is completely useless because it doesn't have any of the other cannabinoids in it.
[15:55.000 --> 16:05.000]  And, of course, there are hundreds of cannabinoids in the marijuana plant and they all work together in conjunction with the THC to have these tremendous health benefits.
[16:05.000 --> 16:15.000]  And now there are recent studies that have come out that show that these cannabinoids alone have tremendous health benefits even without the THC aspect of it.
[16:15.000 --> 16:17.000]  And so the Marinal is useless.
[16:17.000 --> 16:26.000]  And so, of course, the government and the media and everybody else just use that, that information to increase their propaganda.
[16:26.000 --> 16:31.000]  But this propaganda has been going on, I mean, literally since before World War II.
[16:31.000 --> 16:42.000]  And I'm sure folks are familiar, some folks are familiar out there with the Reefer Madness ridiculous documentary that came out that was put out by our government.
[16:42.000 --> 16:44.000]  That is just total stupidness, total lies.
[16:44.000 --> 16:48.000]  I've done a considerable research on this topic myself.
[16:48.000 --> 16:52.000]  But we're going to hear more about Nisha's research when we get back on the other side.
[16:52.000 --> 16:54.000]  This is the rule of law.
[16:54.000 --> 17:00.000]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig and Deborah Stevens will be right back.
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[19:34.000 --> 19:49.000]  Okay, folks, we are back. This is the rule of law.
[19:49.000 --> 20:01.000]  And we are going to get into some legal issues related to the good herb, the good plant, in just a few moments, in another segment or so.
[20:01.000 --> 20:09.000]  But right now we want to go over some of Nisha's research that she's done and some information that is going into her book.
[20:09.000 --> 20:20.000]  And folks, I know we have had guests on this network before who have cured themselves of Crohn's disease, who have cured themselves of all kinds of diseases.
[20:20.000 --> 20:30.000]  I mean, this whole thing about cancer, it is utterly ridiculous that these allopathic so-called doctors put people through this outrageous chemo.
[20:30.000 --> 20:40.000]  I mean, people have completely cured themselves of cancer with marijuana and other substances as well, like intravenous colloidal silver, intravenous vitamin C.
[20:40.000 --> 20:48.000]  I mean, it is just, you know, cancer is something that the body deals with pretty much our entire lives.
[20:48.000 --> 21:02.000]  Most people, research has shown that most people get cancer at least six to 30 times in their entire life, more than just like one cell becoming rogue, but actually starting to develop small tumors.
[21:02.000 --> 21:07.000]  And our immune systems just naturally deal with it, all right, and you never even notice.
[21:07.000 --> 21:15.000]  And so even like going and getting these, you know, scans done, which actually the mammograms cause cancer, that's come out.
[21:15.000 --> 21:27.000]  I mean, you notice this little like, you know, tiny like, you know, the size of a pinhead or not even the size of an eraser, you know, on a pencil, cancer.
[21:27.000 --> 21:31.000]  And they want to put people through all this surgery and chemo and everything else.
[21:31.000 --> 21:38.000]  I mean, people, if you just do what it takes to be healthy and boost your immune system, your body is just going to get rid of it on its own anyway,
[21:38.000 --> 21:47.000]  especially if you're going to do anti-cancer treatments like the vitamin C and the colloidal silver and the medical marijuana and all this.
[21:47.000 --> 22:00.000]  So why don't you give us some background on some of the research that you've done, Nisha, on what kind of health benefits have you discovered on your path to research here?
[22:00.000 --> 22:09.000]  Sure. You know, if I had known when my mother was diagnosed with cancer what I know today,
[22:09.000 --> 22:20.000]  I can't help but wonder if had we had access to the right content of THC and CBD plant material
[22:20.000 --> 22:32.000]  and had we been able to administer cannabis to her or cannabinoids, the active chemicals in the cannabis plant in a high enough concentration,
[22:32.000 --> 22:37.000]  there's a strong possibility that my mom might still be with us.
[22:37.000 --> 22:57.000]  And one of the things that I think is important to know about how and why cannabis works is that our bodies have chemicals in them that mimic the active chemistry of the cannabis plant.
[22:57.000 --> 23:11.000]  So the cannabis plant has cannabinoids. There are over 70 of them. There are over 400 different pharmacologically active components within the cannabis plant,
[23:11.000 --> 23:19.000]  which make it the most pharmacologically active plant on the planet and one of the safest.
[23:19.000 --> 23:39.000]  So these chemicals that are in our body that mimic the cannabinoids in the cannabis plant actually regulate, participate, or modulate every single biological function in our body.
[23:39.000 --> 23:51.000]  So that system is known as the endocannabinoid system or cannabinoids within. That's why cannabis is so effective.
[23:51.000 --> 24:03.000]  So the point of our endocannabinoid system is to help regulate our body, to keep it in a state of homeostasis.
[24:03.000 --> 24:10.000]  And to say it another way, it means that it's our internal harm reduction system.
[24:10.000 --> 24:17.000]  So, you know, the body is designed to be able to manage short bursts of stress here and there.
[24:17.000 --> 24:31.000]  And when that stress comes, the endocannabinoid system goes to work and it goes to work in reducing any harm that that stress has caused to our body.
[24:31.000 --> 24:39.000]  And, you know, consider the fact that our lives have changed so much in the last 200 years.
[24:39.000 --> 24:47.000]  And the body really hasn't evolved to be able to keep up with the kind of stress that we endure on a daily basis.
[24:47.000 --> 24:57.000]  And so sometimes our endocannabinoid system is not able to keep up with constantly bringing us back into balance, bringing us back to health.
[24:57.000 --> 25:09.000]  So when that happens, external cannabinoids, whether they be from the plant or synthetic, can help bring the body back into balance.
[25:09.000 --> 25:16.000]  I'm a proponent of phyto or plant-derived cannabinoids.
[25:16.000 --> 25:31.000]  And I think that they are far more effective. And one of the things that really makes whole plant extracts or using the whole plant instead of just taking PHC or synthetic PHC,
[25:31.000 --> 25:53.000]  which is what Marinol is, is the fact that when you combine all the chemistry of the plant, then that medicine from the plant is going to be two to four times more effective than just PHC would be on its own.
[25:53.000 --> 26:10.000]  You were talking earlier about cancer, and there's a great deal of interest in something we call cannabis oil, which is a high-concentrated form of cannabinoids.
[26:10.000 --> 26:25.000]  And there is both strong scientific evidence and very strong anecdotal evidence that shows that people have been able to use cannabis oil to treat cancer.
[26:25.000 --> 26:37.000]  It's also been highly effective in epilepsy, MS, Crohn's disease, just to name a few.
[26:37.000 --> 26:54.000]  And the science has shown that components of the cannabis plant actually kill the cells of brain, breast, colon, lung, prostate, and skin cancer cells.
[26:54.000 --> 27:11.000]  Now, these tests were all done using human cancer cells in a laboratory setting. The only clinical trials that have actually been done using human beings was done on glioma,
[27:11.000 --> 27:32.000]  which is a fast-growing form of brain cancer. It's what killed Senator Kennedy. Something like less than 5% of people diagnosed with glioma tumors lived longer than five years, so the survival rate is pretty dismal.
[27:32.000 --> 27:55.000]  So researchers in Spain injected THC directly into the glioma tumor in human beings, and what they found is that the THC actually dissolved the tumor and protected the healthy cells.
[27:55.000 --> 27:57.000]  Absolutely amazing.
[27:57.000 --> 28:13.000]  It really is. And, you know, I hear stories all the time of people who utilized cannabis oil, and now they are cancer-free.
[28:13.000 --> 28:33.000]  And, you know, there's a great deal of missing information. Probably the biggest challenge that we have in treating people effectively with cannabis is the fact that it's really difficult to be able to research this plant.
[28:33.000 --> 28:48.000]  It's very difficult for a scientist or a doctor to get approved. They have to get approval from the DEA. They have to get approval from the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
[28:48.000 --> 29:03.000]  They actually have to have the DEA come and inspect their facility. And interestingly enough, cannabis is the only one of the Schedule I drugs where they have to do the research.
[29:03.000 --> 29:30.000]  You have to go through two different sets of approval. It's much easier to study LSD or heroin than it is to study cannabis. And if we could lower cannabis even to a Schedule II drug, we would be able to understand really what ratio of the different chemical components in cannabis are needed
[29:30.000 --> 29:40.000]  and the dosing that is needed to be able to kill someone's cancer or to heal them of Crohn's or epilepsy or MS.
[29:40.000 --> 29:52.000]  Okay, yes. That's something that we should definitely be researching and looking into to see how that can happen. Maybe we can talk about that at some point later in the interview.
[29:52.000 --> 30:01.000]  We are going to break now. Callers, if you'd like to call in and ask a question of Nisha or if you have testimonials, please call in.
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[33:55.000 --> 33:59.000]  This is the rule of law. We're here with Randy Kelton and I'm Deborah Stevens.
[33:59.000 --> 34:06.000]  Of course, we're here with our guest, Nisha Whiteley, and her website is chronicrelief.com.
[34:06.000 --> 34:17.000]  She is writing a book, and we are actually in the process of doing a fundraiser.
[34:17.000 --> 34:26.000]  Nisha Whiteley has a fundraiser going to get her book published, and so before we get back into the medical aspects of it, Nisha,
[34:26.000 --> 34:31.000]  why don't you give out your website and let people know how they can help support this book?
[34:31.000 --> 34:34.000]  Excellent. Well, thank you so much for the opportunity.
[34:34.000 --> 34:41.000]  So the name of the book is Chronic Relief, A Guide to Cannabis for the Terminally and the Chronically Ill.
[34:41.000 --> 34:52.000]  And we have 11 days left on our crowdfunding campaign to raise $18,000 to professionally publish the book.
[34:52.000 --> 34:59.000]  And we chose to go with Rocket Hub, which is one of the popular crowdfunding platforms.
[34:59.000 --> 35:09.000]  We're currently 37% funded, so every dollar helps. We've raised a little over $6,500 at this point.
[35:09.000 --> 35:18.000]  And, you know, our real goal with the book is to help people understand how and why cannabis is such a safe and effective medicine.
[35:18.000 --> 35:25.000]  And if you'd like to support our campaign or learn more about cannabis, please come visit us on our website.
[35:25.000 --> 35:30.000]  It's mychronicrelief.com.
[35:30.000 --> 35:37.000]  And we have two places on the home page where you can click through to our crowdfunding campaign.
[35:37.000 --> 35:41.000]  The first is in the top right corner where it says Crowdfund with us.
[35:41.000 --> 35:49.000]  And the other is on a little area that you'll see a rocket shooting off to the right, and it'll say Rocket Hub Campaign.
[35:49.000 --> 36:00.000]  You know, every dollar counts. We've got some really cool gifts that we're giving as part of a thank you for people that are able to contribute financially.
[36:00.000 --> 36:14.000]  And if you aren't able to support the project financially, sharing our Rocket Hub page on your Facebook, Twitter, any of your social media networks,
[36:14.000 --> 36:22.000]  or via email to people that you think might be interested in learning more about cannabis, we would really appreciate that.
[36:22.000 --> 36:30.000]  You know, and the whole point here is education. And I think that when people are informed,
[36:30.000 --> 36:43.000]  we will see a very quick and substantial shift in opinions about cannabis, whether that be for medical or recreational purposes.
[36:43.000 --> 36:48.000]  Our real focus with the project is helping the terminally and the chronically ill.
[36:48.000 --> 36:59.000]  So everything that you'll hear from us on our Facebook and our website, YouTube, and Twitter is going to be geared to the medicinal value of cannabis.
[36:59.000 --> 37:09.000]  And I encourage you guys to check us out. Our handle is on the same or is the same across all of our social media networks, My Chronic Relief.
[37:09.000 --> 37:16.000]  So facebook.com forward slash My Chronic Relief, the same for YouTube, Pinterest, and so on.
[37:16.000 --> 37:22.000]  You were asking me in the break about the medical usefulness of cannabis.
[37:22.000 --> 37:36.000]  And I think that your listeners would probably be interested to know about all the different things that the cannabis plant actually can do for the human body.
[37:36.000 --> 37:41.000]  And if you don't mind, I'd like to read off a list. It's not a comprehensive list,
[37:41.000 --> 37:49.000]  but I think everybody will kind of get a feel for all that this herb can do for human wellness.
[37:49.000 --> 38:02.000]  Protects against cancer, reduces nausea, is a pain reliever, causes drowsiness, excellent for sleep, increases appetite, decreases appetite.
[38:02.000 --> 38:11.000]  It just depends on the medical, you know, the content, chemical content in the plant as to whether it's going to increase appetite or decrease it.
[38:11.000 --> 38:23.000]  Decreases seizures, reduces anxiety, is a muscle relaxant, is antimicrobial, antibacterial, antifungal, protects the nervous system,
[38:23.000 --> 38:33.000]  is an anti-diabetic, improves blood circulation, lowers blood pressure, relieves psoriasis, relieves Crohn's disease,
[38:33.000 --> 38:41.000]  is an anti-inflammatory, a bone stimulant, relieves rheumatoid arthritis, and is an antioxidant.
[38:41.000 --> 38:54.000]  One of the most interesting things that I've learned along the way about cannabis is the fact that THC has 20 times the anti-inflammatory effect
[38:54.000 --> 39:05.000]  than aspirin and twice that of hydrocortisone. It is safer than anything out there on the market, period.
[39:05.000 --> 39:16.000]  You know, people die every year of overconsuming aspirin or over-the-counter, like Tylenol or Advil, any of those.
[39:16.000 --> 39:27.000]  But no one has ever died of using cannabis, and the reason is that there are not enough receptors in the part of the brain stem
[39:27.000 --> 39:37.000]  that control heartbeat or breath, and that's why no one's going to die using cannabis.
[39:37.000 --> 39:44.000]  Right, and, well, Nisha, let me just interrupt you for a second. This extremely powerful anti-inflammatory property,
[39:44.000 --> 39:50.000]  it makes sense because, and many of our listeners out there listen to pharmacist Ben Fuchs' radio show.
[39:50.000 --> 39:58.000]  I encourage everyone out there, I listen to his show every single day, and it is very clear what causes pretty much
[39:58.000 --> 40:06.000]  all degenerative diseases is micro-inflammation. We're talking inflammation at the cellular level.
[40:06.000 --> 40:12.000]  It's not something that you can see necessarily, like when you sprain your ankle or something and it gets swollen.
[40:12.000 --> 40:18.000]  We're talking about micro-inflammation that is caused basically by eating the wrong kinds of foods
[40:18.000 --> 40:24.000]  and not being able to digest foods. Basically, it's caused by peptides that get into the bloodstream
[40:24.000 --> 40:31.000]  that are not broken down into their amino acid constituents, and that happens when people eat the wrong kinds of foods
[40:31.000 --> 40:37.000]  and don't use probiotics and this leaky gut syndrome. You can only have allergies to proteins.
[40:37.000 --> 40:43.000]  You can't have allergies to anything other than proteins, and so if people have autoimmune disorders and cancer
[40:43.000 --> 40:50.000]  and diabetes, any of these kinds of problems, it's always because the problem starts in the gut.
[40:50.000 --> 40:56.000]  These undigested proteins are getting into the bloodstream that shouldn't be, and your body,
[40:56.000 --> 41:04.000]  your immune system sees these peptides as foreign invaders because peptides represent different types of life forms,
[41:04.000 --> 41:12.000]  and they end up attacking these peptides, and also they end up attacking organs in the body that have similar peptides,
[41:12.000 --> 41:17.000]  and that's why digestive health is so important, and this micro-inflammation, what will happen is that the body
[41:17.000 --> 41:23.000]  will dam off, like a little beaver dam, a certain area that it perceives to have some kind of problem,
[41:23.000 --> 41:28.000]  and so then the toxicity builds up, the area gets suffocated, it gets starved out,
[41:28.000 --> 41:37.000]  and this leads to all kinds of issues, circulatory issues, high blood pressure, cancer, all of these things,
[41:37.000 --> 41:46.000]  and so the key to resolving these issues is to get the body to calm down this inflammatory response,
[41:46.000 --> 41:52.000]  and so it totally makes sense that the cannabis would help all kinds of health conditions,
[41:52.000 --> 41:56.000]  because all degenerative disease is caused by micro-inflammation.
[41:56.000 --> 42:02.000]  Now, of course, the problem is going to stay there if you don't correct the digestive disorder,
[42:02.000 --> 42:08.000]  but you've got to deal with the micro-inflammation at the same time that you're correcting your digestive health,
[42:08.000 --> 42:12.000]  and so I've learned so much from Ben Fuchs, and this information just goes hand in hand,
[42:12.000 --> 42:15.000]  so I just wanted to add that in there, Nisha.
[42:15.000 --> 42:18.000]  Well, you're making my case for me.
[42:18.000 --> 42:24.000]  I have a section in my book that is about most everything you just talked about
[42:24.000 --> 42:28.000]  and the importance of addressing inflammation, because, you know,
[42:28.000 --> 42:35.000]  one of the things that all disease and injury have in common is two things.
[42:35.000 --> 42:41.000]  The number one thing is inflammation, and the number two thing is some level of pain,
[42:41.000 --> 42:47.000]  and I have a dear friend of mine who, you know, along this journey of me deciding
[42:47.000 --> 42:54.000]  that I was going to come out of the cannabis closet and actually put my name on this book and, you know, educate people,
[42:54.000 --> 42:59.000]  he says sometimes, you know, Nisha, you sound like you're a snake oil salesman.
[42:59.000 --> 43:02.000]  You've got to tone it down, and I'm like, you know what?
[43:02.000 --> 43:03.000]  No, I don't.
[43:03.000 --> 43:09.000]  I don't need to tone it down because this works so effectively,
[43:09.000 --> 43:15.000]  and the reason that it works effectively is because it addresses inflammation,
[43:15.000 --> 43:20.000]  and that is what is at the root of all illness and all disease.
[43:20.000 --> 43:21.000]  There you go.
[43:21.000 --> 43:26.000]  Folks, listen, if you'd like to call in, if you have questions for our guest, Nisha Whiteley,
[43:26.000 --> 43:33.000]  then you can call in 512-646-1984, or if you have testimonials of your own.
[43:33.000 --> 43:36.000]  Has your health been improved through the use of cannabis?
[43:36.000 --> 43:42.000]  I know a lot of women out there use it to help with menstrual cramps and hot flashes
[43:42.000 --> 43:45.000]  and perimenopause and all kinds of things.
[43:45.000 --> 43:49.000]  So ladies out there, why don't you call and give your testimonial?
[43:49.000 --> 43:54.000]  And as well, have you had any health issues resolved through the use of cannabis?
[43:54.000 --> 43:57.000]  Or if you have questions, 512-646-1984.
[43:57.000 --> 44:00.000]  We'll be right back.
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[47:13.000 --> 47:15.000]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[47:15.000 --> 47:18.000]  This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens.
[47:18.000 --> 47:20.000]  Eddie Craig is on Monday night.
[47:20.000 --> 47:24.000]  And tonight we are talking with our very special guest, Nisha Whiteley,
[47:24.000 --> 47:28.000]  about medical marijuana, the research, her book,
[47:28.000 --> 47:33.000]  and we will also be discussing some legal issues about the marijuana,
[47:33.000 --> 47:36.000]  both recreational and medical, here in a moment.
[47:36.000 --> 47:39.000]  We do have a caller on the line who is on topic.
[47:39.000 --> 47:41.000]  We have Liz from Texas.
[47:41.000 --> 47:42.000]  Liz, thank you for calling in.
[47:42.000 --> 47:45.000]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[47:45.000 --> 47:48.000]  My comment is just on how cannabis has helped me,
[47:48.000 --> 47:54.000]  but I also wanted to thank you so much for educating people on this topic.
[47:54.000 --> 47:59.000]  I think it's well overdue and much needed, so thank you.
[47:59.000 --> 48:00.000]  Excellent.
[48:00.000 --> 48:02.000]  So, Liz, why don't you give us your testimonial?
[48:02.000 --> 48:05.000]  How has marijuana helped you?
[48:05.000 --> 48:11.000]  Well, I was diagnosed with cyber marijuana when I was 13, and they drowned me
[48:11.000 --> 48:15.000]  in prescription drugs right off the bat, and I turned to cannabis,
[48:15.000 --> 48:17.000]  but I finally had enough.
[48:17.000 --> 48:21.000]  I flushed it all down the toilet and turned to vapor,
[48:21.000 --> 48:26.000]  and it just took my pain away and helped my nervous system a lot,
[48:26.000 --> 48:30.000]  and I had inflammation in the gut and a lot of food allergies,
[48:30.000 --> 48:34.000]  and it helped with every aspect of my life.
[48:34.000 --> 48:37.000]  So, Liz, how is the fibromyalgia?
[48:37.000 --> 48:39.000]  Has it started to subside?
[48:39.000 --> 48:40.000]  Is it reversing?
[48:40.000 --> 48:42.000]  Is the condition reversing?
[48:42.000 --> 48:45.000]  Yeah, I'd say that it's pretty much on the back burner.
[48:45.000 --> 48:50.000]  It's not a really destructive part of my life anymore.
[48:50.000 --> 48:58.000]  It's under control and completely not something that I suffer from anymore.
[48:58.000 --> 49:00.000]  It's not everyday pain.
[49:00.000 --> 49:02.000]  It's something that's manageable,
[49:02.000 --> 49:04.000]  and I've cut back on the cannabis a lot.
[49:04.000 --> 49:07.000]  It's mostly just medicinal use for me.
[49:07.000 --> 49:09.000]  I don't smoke it.
[49:09.000 --> 49:17.000]  I just take it through eating or vaping, and it's only helpful.
[49:17.000 --> 49:22.000]  I've never had any side effects.
[49:22.000 --> 49:24.000]  Well, Liz, that is wonderful.
[49:24.000 --> 49:29.000]  How long did it take you between the time that you started using marijuana
[49:29.000 --> 49:35.000]  for your fibromyalgia until the time that pretty much you're symptom-free now?
[49:35.000 --> 49:36.000]  Five years.
[49:36.000 --> 49:37.000]  Five years.
[49:37.000 --> 49:39.000]  So sometimes it can take a while.
[49:39.000 --> 49:42.000]  Sometimes it can be a shorter period of time than others.
[49:42.000 --> 49:46.000]  So have you taken steps to correct your digestive health?
[49:46.000 --> 49:48.000]  Yes, I have.
[49:48.000 --> 49:50.000]  Wonderful.
[49:50.000 --> 49:54.000]  I have a question.
[49:54.000 --> 50:02.000]  How long did you try to handle the problem with prescription drugs,
[50:02.000 --> 50:06.000]  and how well did they affect your condition?
[50:06.000 --> 50:08.000]  Five years off, though.
[50:08.000 --> 50:10.000]  So five years on, five years off.
[50:10.000 --> 50:15.000]  So five years of dealing with the Western so-called medical system
[50:15.000 --> 50:18.000]  and the allopaths and the poisonous drugs,
[50:18.000 --> 50:22.000]  and there was no relief, and the condition did not get better.
[50:22.000 --> 50:24.000]  Sure, it got worse, didn't it?
[50:24.000 --> 50:25.000]  Yes.
[50:25.000 --> 50:26.000]  Yes.
[50:26.000 --> 50:29.000]  And so you decided it was time to try something else.
[50:29.000 --> 50:31.000]  Well, this is wonderful news.
[50:31.000 --> 50:36.000]  And folks out there who may have issues with fibromyalgia, of course,
[50:36.000 --> 50:41.000]  Ben is always saying how these allopathic so-called medical doctors
[50:41.000 --> 50:45.000]  love to give these fancy Latin names to all these conditions,
[50:45.000 --> 50:47.000]  and it's not a diagnosis.
[50:47.000 --> 50:50.000]  It's just a description of what you're experiencing.
[50:50.000 --> 50:53.000]  Fibromyalgia, what that means is muscle pain.
[50:53.000 --> 50:57.000]  Okay, well, yeah, we kind of knew already that, you know,
[50:57.000 --> 50:59.000]  like Liz already knew she had muscle pain,
[50:59.000 --> 51:02.000]  and so you go and you pay all this money to a doctor to tell you,
[51:02.000 --> 51:06.000]  your sister rubs his chin and, hmm, you have fibromyalgia.
[51:06.000 --> 51:08.000]  And we're like, oh, really?
[51:08.000 --> 51:10.000]  Oh, well, what can be done?
[51:10.000 --> 51:14.000]  And, you know, it's just like we put these doctors on a pedestal,
[51:14.000 --> 51:18.000]  and, you know, even when I was working on the State of Mind film out there,
[51:18.000 --> 51:21.000]  folks, please get the movie State of Mind.
[51:21.000 --> 51:22.000]  I worked on that movie.
[51:22.000 --> 51:26.000]  And some of the psychologists that were in the movie were saying,
[51:26.000 --> 51:33.000]  one in particular was saying that they have done MRI scans on people's brains
[51:33.000 --> 51:39.000]  and in clinical tests where it has been shown that when you're in the presence
[51:39.000 --> 51:46.000]  of somebody else that you perceive to be an authority on a certain matter,
[51:46.000 --> 51:54.000]  the area of your brain responsible for critical thinking completely shuts down.
[51:54.000 --> 51:56.000]  This is documented.
[51:56.000 --> 51:59.000]  They can repeat it over and over.
[51:59.000 --> 52:02.000]  This is a phenomenon in the brain.
[52:02.000 --> 52:06.000]  And so, folks, listen, we've got to stop considering these so-called allopathic
[52:06.000 --> 52:08.000]  doctors as some kind of gods, okay?
[52:08.000 --> 52:12.000]  We've got to stop perceiving them as authorities because they are not authorities.
[52:12.000 --> 52:15.000]  You ask any of them what causes this, what causes that,
[52:15.000 --> 52:17.000]  they will be honest with you, they will tell you,
[52:17.000 --> 52:20.000]  we don't know what causes heart disease, we don't know what causes diabetes,
[52:20.000 --> 52:23.000]  we don't know what causes any of these things, but here's some drugs.
[52:23.000 --> 52:24.000]  Okay, well, I'm sorry.
[52:24.000 --> 52:27.000]  I'm not going to deal with that kind of system, okay?
[52:27.000 --> 52:30.000]  And so Liz is a perfect example.
[52:30.000 --> 52:33.000]  Fibromyalgia, Ben Fuchs has talked about this.
[52:33.000 --> 52:36.000]  Liz, if you don't listen to pharmacist Ben Fuchs, it's called The Bright Side.
[52:36.000 --> 52:37.000]  That's the name of his show.
[52:37.000 --> 52:39.000]  It's on the GCN Network.
[52:39.000 --> 52:43.000]  You can just look up Bright Side Ben, brightsideben.com.
[52:43.000 --> 52:45.000]  He talks about fibromyalgia.
[52:45.000 --> 52:52.000]  Fibromyalgia is just another symptom, a manifestation of microinflammation,
[52:52.000 --> 52:54.000]  inflammation at the cellular level,
[52:54.000 --> 52:58.000]  which is always caused by problems in the digestive system.
[52:58.000 --> 53:01.000]  And so Liz, this is a wonderful success story.
[53:01.000 --> 53:05.000]  You used the cannabis to help alleviate the microinflammation,
[53:05.000 --> 53:09.000]  the inflammatory response, the immune system reaction,
[53:09.000 --> 53:12.000]  and you corrected your digestive system.
[53:12.000 --> 53:16.000]  You corrected a problem, eliminated problem foods, all these kinds of things.
[53:16.000 --> 53:18.000]  So congratulations.
[53:18.000 --> 53:20.000]  May I ask a question?
[53:20.000 --> 53:21.000]  Oh, yeah.
[53:21.000 --> 53:26.000]  Liz, this is Nisha, and I'm wondering,
[53:26.000 --> 53:32.000]  did your doctor ever talk to you about how cannabis might benefit you?
[53:32.000 --> 53:33.000]  No.
[53:33.000 --> 53:38.000]  For a while I lived in California and I had a prescription out there,
[53:38.000 --> 53:40.000]  and I talked to a doctor out there about it,
[53:40.000 --> 53:43.000]  and he wrote me a prescription right away.
[53:43.000 --> 53:44.000]  Great.
[53:44.000 --> 53:50.000]  Well, one of my favorite researchers is a gentleman by the name of Dr. Ethan Russo,
[53:50.000 --> 53:55.000]  and on our resource page, on our website, at mychronicrelease.com,
[53:55.000 --> 54:00.000]  we have several research papers, and we'll be adding more over time,
[54:00.000 --> 54:02.000]  but it's a great resource.
[54:02.000 --> 54:06.000]  But anyway, he's written many, many journal articles,
[54:06.000 --> 54:15.000]  and we're talking about articles that have been accepted in very prestigious medical journals.
[54:15.000 --> 54:23.000]  But he hypothesizes and is in the process of trying to research this further,
[54:23.000 --> 54:33.000]  but he believes that fibromyalgia is actually probably caused by a lack of endocannabinoids in the body,
[54:33.000 --> 54:40.000]  and that's why he believes cannabis is so very effective for fibromyalgia patients.
[54:40.000 --> 54:41.000]  Very interesting.
[54:41.000 --> 54:42.000]  Thank you for sharing.
[54:42.000 --> 54:45.000]  I will check out your resource page.
[54:45.000 --> 54:46.000]  Yeah.
[54:46.000 --> 54:49.000]  I'm glad you're getting the relief that you deserve.
[54:49.000 --> 54:55.000]  Yeah, I just want to add in there that cannabis juicing, along with turmeric,
[54:55.000 --> 54:59.000]  was one of the just liquid gold cures for me,
[54:59.000 --> 55:08.000]  is the anti-inflammatory effects of turmeric with the cannabis in juice just seem to do wonders for me.
[55:08.000 --> 55:16.000]  Well, you bring up a whole other area of cannabis intake methods that, for a lot of Texans,
[55:16.000 --> 55:21.000]  quite difficult, but in the future, when cannabis is legal,
[55:21.000 --> 55:29.000]  I think that we will see tremendous expansion of the consumption of raw cannabis.
[55:29.000 --> 55:34.000]  And for those of you out there who are listening and want to know more about that,
[55:34.000 --> 55:39.000]  you can visit the intake methods page of our website,
[55:39.000 --> 55:47.000]  and we have links to the work that's being done by Dr. William Courtney at Cannabis International,
[55:47.000 --> 55:53.000]  and he and his wife have a brilliant story of healing.
[55:53.000 --> 56:00.000]  She was bedridden and suffered from a long list of horrible ailments,
[56:00.000 --> 56:08.000]  and she now is in perfect health, and they have a very healthy baby.
[56:08.000 --> 56:13.000]  They just had their second, and it's a wonderful story of health and healing.
[56:13.000 --> 56:20.000]  And I think that, you know, depending on a person's ailments really is going to dictate
[56:20.000 --> 56:24.000]  which intake method is probably going to be the healthiest.
[56:24.000 --> 56:32.000]  And so you found that juicing the raw plant combined with turmeric was working,
[56:32.000 --> 56:41.000]  and were you also vaping or ingesting product that was made from the dried plant at the same time?
[56:41.000 --> 56:43.000]  Yes, Dan.
[56:43.000 --> 56:45.000]  Great.
[56:45.000 --> 56:47.000]  Let me make sure I'm hearing this right.
[56:47.000 --> 56:52.000]  You said cannabis combined with turmeric?
[56:52.000 --> 56:53.000]  Yes.
[56:53.000 --> 56:57.000]  So what she's talking about is juicing the raw plant.
[56:57.000 --> 57:00.000]  And I'm assuming you were juicing raw turmeric,
[57:00.000 --> 57:04.000]  or were you using turmeric powder or a concentrate?
[57:04.000 --> 57:06.000]  No, fresh turmeric.
[57:06.000 --> 57:08.000]  Nice.
[57:08.000 --> 57:12.000]  And let me add something here also about juicing cannabis
[57:12.000 --> 57:14.000]  and juicing other vegetables as well.
[57:14.000 --> 57:22.000]  Okay, first off, the cannabinoids in the THC are fat-soluble nutrients,
[57:22.000 --> 57:24.000]  and it is a nutrient.
[57:24.000 --> 57:30.000]  You have water-soluble nutrients, and you have fat-soluble nutrients as far as vitamins go.
[57:30.000 --> 57:34.000]  The D, vitamin D, E, A, and K, some of the four most important vitamins,
[57:34.000 --> 57:38.000]  those are fat-soluble. Vitamin B, vitamin C, those are water-soluble.
[57:38.000 --> 57:43.000]  All right, so like absorbs like, like dissolves like.
[57:43.000 --> 57:50.000]  All right, most people have fat malabsorption issues in their digestive system,
[57:50.000 --> 57:56.000]  and it makes it very difficult for them to absorb vitamin A, vitamin E, vitamin D, the cannabinoids.
[57:56.000 --> 58:02.000]  And so if you're going to engage in an internal, like the intake method of eating it,
[58:02.000 --> 58:07.000]  you need to make sure that your fat absorption system is working properly.
[58:07.000 --> 58:11.000]  That means taking the ultimate enzymes from the longevity to dissolve the fat.
[58:11.000 --> 58:13.000]  You need the lipases.
[58:13.000 --> 58:19.000]  You need to be taking your juicing with apple cider vinegar and also lecithin.
[58:19.000 --> 58:24.000]  I recommend sunflower lecithin because it's not soy, it doesn't have the phytoestrogens,
[58:24.000 --> 58:28.000]  and it's always, sunflower is always non-GMO.
[58:28.000 --> 58:34.000]  They don't have GMO sunflowers. So get organic sunflower, lecithin, apple cider vinegar.
[58:34.000 --> 58:39.000]  I like Bragg's and also the digestive enzymes from longevity.
[58:39.000 --> 58:43.000]  Take all of those with, when you do your intake of your cannabinoids
[58:43.000 --> 58:46.000]  so that you can get the bile salts going and actually absorb it.
[58:46.000 --> 58:50.000]  We'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:04.000]  North Carolina has decided to cut welfare benefits as a result of lack of federal funding
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[01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:35.000]  A new Gallup poll shows an overwhelming number of Americans willing to support a third party.
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[01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:28.000]  They want to charge up Babylon and burn down whole nation. But then they have to make the land run.
[01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  Okay folks, we are back. This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens.
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:44.000]  Eddie is on Monday night, Randy and I are on tonight.
[01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:52.000]  Tomorrow, of course, is our Friday 4-hour info marathon with Randy Kelton and Steve Skidmore and Joe Esquivel.
[01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.000]  They talk about mortgages and other issues.
[01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.000]  We have Liz from Texas still on the line with us.
[01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.000]  So Liz, do you have any further questions for us or comments?
[01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:03.000]  No, I don't.
[01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.000]  All right. Well, thank you so much for staying on the line.
[01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:08.000]  Thank you for your testimonial. We appreciate that.
[01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  Yeah. Good night.
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:10.000]  Okay. You have a good night.
[01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:11.000]  We do.
[01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.000]  All right. The Lord be with your spirit.
[01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:20.000]  All right, folks out there, if you all have any questions for Nisha or myself or Randy on topic,
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:25.000]  please call in 512-646-1984 if you have any testimonials.
[01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:29.000]  Have you had good results, especially the ladies out there?
[01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:38.000]  It's really good for menstrual issues, going into perimenopause, regulating the female endocrine system.
[01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:39.000]  It works wonders.
[01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.000]  And really, it's not a miracle.
[01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.000]  This is just the way the body works.
[01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:48.000]  And when the body gets the nutrients that it needs, this is what happens.
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:51.000]  It's called good health, and this is just the way the body works.
[01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:57.000]  And before I go back to Nisha, she wants to get into the differences between hemp and marijuana.
[01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:03.000]  Also, I wanted to finish up on what I was talking about concerning fats and oils.
[01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  Most people in this country, because they have a poor diet, because they eat too many grains,
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:18.000]  because they eat too many high-glycemic index foods like granola and oatmeal and cereals and all these sorts of things,
[01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:23.000]  they eat too many grains, white potatoes, corn, all these sorts of things.
[01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:29.000]  Folks, you need to start weaning the wheat, the corn, oatmeal, all these kinds of grains,
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.000]  spelt, things that people think are good.
[01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  They're no good.
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  There's only three grains out there that do not have a high-glycemic index.
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:39.000]  That is quinoa, millet, and amaranth.
[01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  That is it.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.000]  And as far as any other starches, sweet potatoes are good.
[01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.000]  Sweet potatoes do not have a high-glycemic index.
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.000]  White potatoes are horrible.
[01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:51.000]  Corn is horrible, especially since most corn is GMO.
[01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:55.000]  And the wheat that we have now is not original ancient grain wheat.
[01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:59.000]  It's not GMO, but it is a pre-GMO.
[01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:04.000]  It is a slightly genetically altered form of wheat, but it doesn't reach the status of GMO.
[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.000]  GMO came out about a decade after they formulated this.
[01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  We call it this thing.
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:17.000]  It's a short dwarf, high-yield so-called wheat that yields 10 times the wheat per acre,
[01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:23.000]  and it has hundreds of times of gluten in it than ancient grain normal wheat,
[01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:27.000]  which is called kammut, or kammut, K-A-M-U-T.
[01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  And so if you're going to eat any wheat at all, folks, you need to be doing the kammut,
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.000]  because the gluten is a protein which causes the inflammation or digestion,
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:38.000]  the leaky gut syndrome, and that's how all these peptides get in, and everything else.
[01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  And gluten is not good for anybody, okay?
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.000]  It's just not, and it's the high glycemic index food.
[01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  And so because of our diet of all the grains and too many carbs,
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:51.000]  it wrecks havoc within our digestive system,
[01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:56.000]  and what ends up happening is that people have fat malabsorption issues.
[01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.000]  Ben Fuchs has talked about this at great length.
[01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  I'm going to summarize here quickly, and then we can get back to our guests.
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  But the reason I'm going here about the oils and the fat malabsorption
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:08.000]  is because if you're going to use cannabis internally, you have got to deal
[01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:13.000]  with your fat malabsorption and do everything you can to support fat absorption
[01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  so you can get these cannabinoids digested properly and into your bloodstream
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:21.000]  along with your vitamin A, E, D, and K.
[01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.000]  And that means using bile salts with your fatty foods.
[01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.000]  When you take the cannabinoids in, that means using apple cider vinegar.
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  That means using the ultimate enzymes, digestive enzymes from young Jevity.
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.000]  You can order that through us, logosradionetwork.com.
[01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  And lecithin, very important.
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.000]  I would recommend the sunflower lecithin.
[01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.000]  You can get it in granules, put it in your smoothie,
[01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:46.000]  or you can take it in tablets, in soft gels.
[01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:51.000]  And also the Z radical from young Jevity, the fucoidin seaweed,
[01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.000]  is an excellent product for patching up the digestive system
[01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:57.000]  and increasing and improving fat absorption.
[01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:02.000]  So with the oils, Nisha's going to give us some recipes here.
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:08.000]  You can saute the cannabis plant, the full plant, in butter or coconut oil.
[01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:11.000]  Those are the only oils I would recommend.
[01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.000]  I've done extensive research on oils.
[01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:20.000]  You do not want to cook with any oil at all other than coconut oil or butter, period.
[01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  Do not cook with olive oil.
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  Olive oil has tremendous health properties,
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:28.000]  but the problem with olive oil is that it turns into trans fats
[01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  basically if it gets any hotter than almost room temperature.
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  Olive oil is great, but only use it in salads.
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:35.000]  Use it raw.
[01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:40.000]  Do not use any other kind of oil to cook with other than coconut oil and butter.
[01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  And people are like, oh, coconut oil.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.000]  I don't want all my food to taste like coconut.
[01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:44.000]  It doesn't.
[01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.000]  I've been cooking with coconut oil for years,
[01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:49.000]  and it really does not make your food taste like coconut.
[01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:53.000]  And Dr. Joel Wallach, who formulated all the young Jevity products,
[01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.000]  he says don't use any oil at all.
[01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:57.000]  And I disagree with that.
[01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:58.000]  I think coconut oil is good,
[01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:03.000]  but you need to store it in a place where it's not going to be harmed by the light.
[01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:04.000]  You want to keep it in the dark.
[01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:07.000]  And just don't cook on extremely high heat anyway,
[01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.000]  because it destroys the nutrients in the food.
[01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.000]  And your ultimate EFAs, all your essential fatty acids,
[01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.000]  keep them in the refrigerator,
[01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  because essential fatty acid supplements, the fish oils, all these things,
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:22.000]  or your oil of evening primrose, the borage oil, all these things,
[01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:26.000]  they will degrade and disintegrate at room temperature.
[01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.000]  You've got to keep your essential fatty acid supplements,
[01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:32.000]  your flax seed oils and pumpkin seed oils, all these things.
[01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:33.000]  You've got to keep them in the refrigerator.
[01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:38.000]  So anyway, that's enough on the oils and how to deal with fat absorption issues.
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  I want to go back to Nisha now.
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:46.000]  And Nisha, you wanted to point out some of the differences between hemp and marijuana,
[01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.000]  because there's a lot of hemp seed powder supplements,
[01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:51.000]  hemp seed oil supplements, and things like this.
[01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.000]  So you have the floor now.
[01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:57.000]  Why don't you tell us about the differences here?
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  Okay.
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  Before we do that, I do want to point out that we have a recipe on our website
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.000]  that we posted today.
[01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:08.000]  You'll find it under the blog section of the website.
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  And it's called Cooking with Cannabis.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:15.000]  And it's actually an Ecuadorian quinoa stew that is gluten-free.
[01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.000]  And it's delicious.
[01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.000]  Wait, give us the website again.
[01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.000]  MyChronicRelief.com.
[01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:29.000]  And if you'll click on it, you can find it on the front page.
[01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:35.000]  There's a beautiful picture of the dish on the right-hand sidebar.
[01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:39.000]  Or click on our blog section, and it'll take you right there.
[01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:41.000]  It's the first thing that pops up.
[01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:48.000]  And just so happens that for people who contribute $25 to our Rocket Hub campaign
[01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.000]  here in the next 10 days,
[01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:57.000]  they will get five of these beautifully photographed recipe cards
[01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.000]  with cannabis recipes.
[01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:07.000]  And we worked really hard to ensure that these recipes are more healthy-oriented.
[01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:11.000]  And yes, we have some that have gluten in them,
[01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:19.000]  and some that I hate to admit it, Debra, but some of them have olive oil.
[01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  So guys, use butter instead.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:27.000]  But talking about hemp and marijuana seems to come up a lot,
[01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:31.000]  because people think that, oh, hemp is marijuana.
[01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.000]  They're the same thing.
[01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:39.000]  And it's really very confusing because they are plant cousins, so to speak.
[01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:42.000]  Generally speaking, when we're talking about hemp,
[01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  it's used for industrial purposes, for making paper, making hemp concrete,
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:57.000]  making fibers, fantastic shirts and pants and sheets, all kinds of things.
[01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  And when we're talking about marijuana or cannabis,
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.000]  we're really talking about something that has a higher THC level.
[01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:12.000]  And the technical difference between the two is that cannabis,
[01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:20.000]  used for recreational or medicinal purposes, is going to have 3% to 25% THC content.
[01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.000]  And the varieties that are used for industrial production,
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:28.000]  including varieties that are used for food and oil production,
[01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:34.000]  they are going to have, generally speaking, less than 1% THC,
[01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.000]  and many of them will have 0.1% THC.
[01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:46.000]  So there's no real chance of somebody getting a high from that product.
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  Now, if you eat hemp seed or oil or powder, there definitely is medical benefit,
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  because hemp is one of the most balanced essential fatty acids.
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  And essential fatty acids are the building blocks for our own endocannabinoid system.
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:15.000]  And if you're just joining us, the endocannabinoid system means the cannabis within.
[01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:20.000]  Our bodies have chemicals that are very important to our health
[01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.000]  that mimic the chemicals that are in the cannabis plant.
[01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:34.000]  And while hemp, whether it's for food or fiber, does have some amount of THC,
[01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:38.000]  it's not something that's ever going to get you high.
[01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:51.000]  Unfortunately, hemp is considered to be a schedule one plant, just like medical marijuana is.
[01:13:51.000 --> 01:14:01.000]  How can they justify that when there's no psychoactive properties in it?
[01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:06.000]  Well, the DEA says that people could make hash oil from it,
[01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.000]  that you could definitely get high from it.
[01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  But I had the chance to interview several PhD biologists,
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:24.000]  people who are plant experts, and one man in particular who's dedicated his entire career
[01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  in the United States to a very well-known agricultural university.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:36.000]  And what he explained to me is that it just isn't possible.
[01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  So you have to understand that THC and all cannabinoids, as well as terpenoids and flavonoids,
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:51.000]  which are important to the pharmacological activity of the cannabis plant
[01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:57.000]  and health benefits to the human being, they all come from something called the glandular trichome.
[01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:05.000]  This is a little bitty gland that kind of looks like a tall mushroom or a bobblehead,
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:10.000]  and it extends from the surface of the plant,
[01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:19.000]  and it occurs in highest density in the female flowers of the plant and then the leaves closest to the flower.
[01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:27.000]  So THC does not exist inside a hemp seed.
[01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:32.000]  It exists on the plant itself.
[01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:40.000]  And in hemp production, they're using both the male and the female plant.
[01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:43.000]  It doesn't matter to them the sex of the plant.
[01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:47.000]  Whereas in medical marijuana production, it matters very much.
[01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:55.000]  A person can ruin their entire crop if a male plant gets in there and pollinates.
[01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  That is disastrous.
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  So the likelihood of anyone ever getting a high from consuming or smoking the hemp plant is nearly nonexistent.
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:17.000]  And if they did, the effects would be so not pleasant that they wouldn't want to do it again.
[01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:21.000]  It's just short-sightedness on the part of DEA.
[01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  And frankly, right now we're importing well over $300 million a year worth of hemp products into the United States.
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  It would be excellent for agriculture, our economy, taxes, if we could grow hemp.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  And the same is true for cannabis.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  Yes, and actually in decades past, farmers were even required to grow a certain percentage of their land,
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  was required to be dedicated to hemp for the war.
[01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.000]  We can talk about that a little bit.
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[01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:41.000]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens.
[01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.000]  We're here with our guest, Nisha Whiteley.
[01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:46.000]  I'm sorry, I misspoke your website earlier in the show.
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[01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:54.000]  So, folks, please go there. Please support her efforts to get this book published
[01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:57.000]  and get it out into the mainstream. This is very important information.
[01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:01.000]  And we're talking about the differences between hemp and marijuana.
[01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:07.000]  And just even that in and of itself, the terms hemp and marijuana,
[01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:17.000]  even that was a government propaganda campaign to try to demonize the particular strain
[01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:21.000]  of hemp that has the higher levels of THC.
[01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  And so it's even that in and of itself, sorry to say, was a conspiracy by the government
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:32.000]  propaganda to demonize the good herb in general.
[01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  And so they decide, oh, well, we're going to call this one marijuana,
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:42.000]  but this one is hemp, and it's actually all part of the same family of plants,
[01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  different species, different strains.
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  And as our guest was saying, the hemp, or what we call hemp now,
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  is the industrial strain, which hardly has any THC at all.
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:21:00.000]  And honestly, I mean, you're very gracious towards the DEA to say
[01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:03.000]  that it's short-sightedness on their part.
[01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.000]  I don't personally believe that.
[01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:11.000]  And I will have the boldness to assert that the reason they are doing this,
[01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:16.000]  I know exactly what they're doing, and they're paid off by the big lobbyists
[01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:23.000]  that represent the cotton industry and the logging industry and big oil as well,
[01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:29.000]  because the industrial hemp, the fibers from it can be up to hundreds of feet long.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:32.000]  A lot of people don't realize this, but hemp can be a tree.
[01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:37.000]  And in the Caribbean, they call it the tree, my marijuana tree.
[01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:41.000]  They grow it. It can get hundreds of feet long, these fibers.
[01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  And cotton fibers can only be like a few inches long, and it's not as strong.
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  In the human history, hemp has been used to make the giant sails for the rigging, the ropes.
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:01.000]  This country, they never would have been able to sail over here on the Mayflower without hemp.
[01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:03.000]  What do you think they made the sails out of?
[01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.000]  What do you think they made the rope out of?
[01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.000]  They didn't make it out of cotton. You've got to be kidding me.
[01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  Those winds and the storms would have torn it right up.
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:17.000]  The oil can be used to produce a fuel.
[01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:23.000]  The ethanol that can be produced from hemp, I was reading the other day,
[01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:30.000]  it's up to 100 times more ethanol per acre can be produced from hemp than corn.
[01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:35.000]  Okay, now this is ridiculous, and plus it's got tremendous benefits, like you're saying,
[01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:41.000]  the essential fatty acids from the hemp oil and also the amino acids.
[01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  It's got a lot of branch chain amino acids.
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:47.000]  It goes on and on, and we're talking about the industrial hemp now,
[01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:50.000]  the stuff that doesn't have hardly any THC at all.
[01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:55.000]  So when you've got the lobbyists that represent the oil industry,
[01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  because it'll put the oil industry out of business.
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  It'll put the petroleum business out of business,
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:05.000]  because why should we be sucking the precious blood out of our earth,
[01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  causing all these tectonic shifts in the plates,
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:13.000]  and it causes all kinds of problems with the environment when there's spills and everything else?
[01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.000]  Well, you can just grow hemp and get the ethanol from that.
[01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:20.000]  The logging industry doesn't want it because they want to be able to cut down trees to make paper.
[01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  You can make paper from it.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:27.000]  Of course, obviously, the textile industries are against it because it'll get rid of the cotton
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.000]  and all these synthetic fabrics and everything else.
[01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  So there's a lot of stuff going on here besides, I would say, just shortsightedness,
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:38.000]  but you're gracious to give them the benefit of the doubt.
[01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:41.000]  I won't take it that far, though.
[01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.000]  But anyways, why don't you go ahead, Nisha?
[01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:48.000]  You wanted to make some more comments about the issue of hemp.
[01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:53.000]  Well, I come from a farming family and an agricultural background.
[01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:56.000]  My education is in agriculture.
[01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:04.000]  And, you know, our country began as a farming community.
[01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.000]  Our heritage is in agriculture.
[01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  And I believe that our future could in part also be in agriculture and should be.
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:19.000]  And I think that through integrating hemp,
[01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:23.000]  we have an opportunity to cleanse and clean our soils,
[01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:27.000]  which has been over farmed to a great deal.
[01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:31.000]  And this is a wonderful crop to rotate,
[01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:35.000]  and people could integrate it into their current farming practice,
[01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:41.000]  whether they choose to continue to grow cotton or grain sorghum
[01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:44.000]  or peanuts or sunflowers or whatever.
[01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:50.000]  It could allow them to diversify, mitigate their risk,
[01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  and at the same time really feed our economy's demand for hemp products,
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:03.000]  while at the same time benefiting their bottom line and benefiting the environment.
[01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  Because when you plant hemp, it cleans the soil.
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:10.000]  And hemp can be grown all over the world.
[01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:17.000]  And it can also be grown in areas where you don't really have high-quality soil.
[01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  So I would like to see it completely declassified.
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:24.000]  It shouldn't be on any schedule.
[01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:32.000]  It should be considered an agricultural crop in the same way that corn and soybeans and cotton are.
[01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.000]  And our economy would be better for it.
[01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  Absolutely. It's ridiculous that we have to import these things when we can grow them ourselves,
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:44.000]  and it would help with our economy.
[01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:51.000]  Now, speaking of the classification, declassification, reclassification, all these sorts of things,
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:56.000]  you were mentioning on one of the breaks that it's actually the DEA, not the FDA,
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:06.000]  that has classified both hemp and marijuana as Schedule A drugs with no medical benefit whatsoever,
[01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:10.000]  and, you know, it's all these dangers, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  So have you studied their procedures, their classification procedures?
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:17.000]  Are there any?
[01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:24.000]  What is necessary as far as level of evidence or medical studies, et cetera, et cetera,
[01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:29.000]  in order to go through the bureaucracy?
[01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:33.000]  Probably there would have to be administrative hearings held, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:41.000]  Do you know what the procedure is and what would be necessary to get these wonderful plants reclassified?
[01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:45.000]  That's an excellent question.
[01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:51.000]  Last week we hosted a webinar on Google Live Hangout On Air,
[01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:59.000]  and I had the opportunity to have a very special guest with me, Dr. Sunil Agarwal.
[01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:05.000]  He's a practicing physician and an expert in the field of cannabis science.
[01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:11.000]  And at the end of our webinar, one of the questions that I asked him was,
[01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:21.000]  what is going to – what amount of information, scientific research, and clinical trials
[01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:31.000]  is going to provide the right amount of evidence to get the DEA to change the classification of cannabis?
[01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:34.000]  And he couldn't answer the question.
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  He said, you know, no one really knows.
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:44.000]  It's different – seems to be different for every drug, and the rules seem to be –
[01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:53.000]  while there are some basic rules with getting approved for health research or scientific research
[01:27:53.000 --> 01:28:02.000]  through the FDA and NIDA, getting cannabis rescheduled is a bit of a mystery.
[01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:10.000]  Several years ago, the DEA's own administrative law judge, Francis Young,
[01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  held hearings to hear from some of the country's top experts on cannabis use,
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:25.000]  all well-regarded physicians and researchers, as well as the testimony of some very brave patients.
[01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:36.000]  And at the end of listening to all the testimony and reading everything that had been submitted, pro or con,
[01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:47.000]  he advised the DEA to change the schedule from a Schedule I to a Schedule II drug, at least.
[01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  And the DEA chose to overlook his recommendation.
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  And there have been other recommendations from extremely high-level officials and organizations
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  that have said, you know, it's time to declassify cannabis, and, you know, we need to take a closer look at this.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:15.000]  But right now, I think, you know, it's somewhat of a mystery to me.
[01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:21.000]  I don't understand it fully, but everything that I have looked at basically leads me to believe
[01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  that the DEA is in full control of that.
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:31.000]  And so when they make the decision that cannabis should be reclassified,
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:39.000]  then there will be the procedure to change the laws of the Controlled Substances Act.
[01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  And then we will have change.
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:46.000]  Yeah, and I'd like to comment and question on this a little bit when we get back,
[01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:51.000]  because obviously we already have the prescription drug called Marinol, which is synthetic THC,
[01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:56.000]  so I don't see how the DEA can get away with saying that there's no medical use,
[01:29:56.000 --> 01:30:00.000]  but we can address that on the other side. We'll be right back.
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[01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:48.000]  Okay, folks, we are back. This is the rule of law.
[01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  We are going to start getting into some of the legal issues.
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:55.000]  And folks out there, if you have questions or comments, ladies and gentlemen out there,
[01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.000]  if you're in Washington State or Colorado or California,
[01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:05.000]  any state where your state's legislature has enacted law to regulate the use of medical marijuana,
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  or in the case of Washington and Colorado, they've just outright said recreational use is fine.
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:20.000]  I've actually seen some blogs and some articles regarding people's opinions in states like California
[01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:28.000]  where the medical marijuana community, the growers and the clinics are actually heavily lobbying
[01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  their state legislature not to make marijuana legal for a recreational purpose
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:41.000]  because then that would ruin their little monopoly, their cartel.
[01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:48.000]  And so it's just, it's really strange what can happen with prohibition or even limited prohibition.
[01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:51.000]  So anyway, we can talk about that a little bit later.
[01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:56.000]  But folks, if you have any experience with how marijuana or hemp has helped your health,
[01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:02.000]  then please call in 512-646-1984 to give your question or comments.
[01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:04.000]  If you have a question for Nisha Whiteley.
[01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:10.000]  Now, before we went to break, we were talking about the DEA is apparently in charge of classifying
[01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:17.000]  and categorizing these drugs and other substances that are not drugs.
[01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  And so I was wondering, Nisha, if you know, does the FDA have any interaction with this process
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:35.000]  because obviously there has to be on record somewhere in some clinical trials that THC,
[01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:43.000]  even all by itself, has some medicinal purpose or else the FDA never would have approved it
[01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:48.000]  for a pharmaceutical to be sold to the public and it never would have been approved for a patent
[01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  and all these other sorts of things.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:56.000]  So obviously there is documentation on file and a patent and it has been approved as a pharmaceutical,
[01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  the synthetic form of THC.
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:05.000]  So how, I just don't understand how the DEA can still be getting away with saying that there's no medical use
[01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:10.000]  when there's already a drug for it that's the same chemical substance.
[01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  Do you have any comments on that or information about that?
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:14.000]  Sure.
[01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:19.000]  Well, I have the same question and that in many ways was part of the impetus for writing the book
[01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:27.000]  that here's something that I had a chance to watch at work wonders for my mom when she was dying.
[01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:34.000]  And I too cannot understand the reasoning behind the current classification.
[01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:41.000]  So when a drug like Marinol, the synthetic form of THC, has to go through approval,
[01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  it goes through the FDA.
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:53.000]  But consider the fact that Marinol used to be a Schedule II drug and is now a Schedule III drug
[01:36:53.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  in the same class I believe is Fichadine, another strong painkiller.
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:08.000]  What's interesting to me is the fact that THC processed in the liver,
[01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:14.000]  so when you take a pill it goes into the stomach and then it's processed through the liver,
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:30.000]  is processed as 11-Hydroxy, which is a much more psychoactive metabolite of THC, 11-Hydroxy-THC.
[01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:44.000]  And so Marinol provides a more psychoactive effect to the patient than does cannabis and it generally lasts longer.
[01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:51.000]  So anytime you inhale or whether that be through smoking or vaporization,
[01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  takes about less than anywhere from immediate to two minutes for the patient to feel the benefit.
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  That lasts anywhere from 45 minutes to two hours depending on how much they use,
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.000]  the potency of the plant and their body chemistry.
[01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:18.000]  When you take something orally, then it takes 60 to 90 minutes for it to process in the liver
[01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.000]  and then it provides a more psychoactive effect.
[01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:30.000]  And that's true whether someone is consuming Marinol or a synthetic form of a synthetic cannabinoid
[01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:35.000]  or if they are eating something that's been made with butter.
[01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:43.000]  So the psychoactive, I guess, component, the psychoactivity of cannabis
[01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:50.000]  is what has landed it squarely on the Schedule I classification.
[01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:57.000]  And when the DEA was asked about this, and I write about it in my book,
[01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:05.000]  they say that yes, components of the cannabis plant do have benefit,
[01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:15.000]  but cannabis is a dangerous substance with high addictability and it has no medical value.
[01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:21.000]  And let's point out that cannabis is less addictive than caffeine.
[01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:31.000]  So it's interesting, why do we have Marinol as a Schedule II or III drug
[01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:37.000]  when it provides more psychoactivity than the plant, which is a Schedule I drug?
[01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  And just for those that aren't familiar with the scheduling of drugs,
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:52.000]  a Schedule I drug is considered to have no known medical value, be highly addictive, and it's illegal.
[01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  That's heroin. It's in the same class as heroin.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:01.000]  It's just absolutely outrageous.
[01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:07.000]  We need to do some more research on how we can get this rescheduled.
[01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:15.000]  But on the other hand, from the history that I've seen of just dealing with a variety of different issues
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:20.000]  at the federal level, for the most part, not every single time,
[01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:25.000]  but for the most part, we're only going to get any relief at the state and local level.
[01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:29.000]  Especially, a lot of times, you're only going to get any relief at the local level.
[01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  And so I think perhaps our energies would be better spent trying to lobby our legislatures,
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:46.000]  our legislators, and also city council, county commissioners' courts, things like this.
[01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:52.000]  Police chief, there's been a movement in San Antonio now where they don't,
[01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  the police will not, for the most part, will not actually arrest people
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  for simple possession of small amounts of marijuana anymore.
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:06.000]  It's a Class B misdemeanor here in many counties in Texas.
[01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:13.000]  And so the police departments have been instructed basically to use discretion
[01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  and to not necessarily haul people in jail for any kind of Class B misdemeanor,
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:23.000]  because some traffic offenses are Class B.
[01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:27.000]  And so like if they say you're driving without a license or driving with invalid license
[01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:31.000]  or things like that, they can, you know, sometimes they'll want to bring people to jail
[01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:34.000]  because that can be a Class B misdemeanor in some places.
[01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:41.000]  So there is movement all around at the state and local levels all over the country
[01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:50.000]  to either just not enforce the laws or to be, not be so heavy handed in the enforcement,
[01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:56.000]  like just write people a ticket or whatever instead of, you know, taking them to jail.
[01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:04.000]  And you've got these two states, Colorado and Washington, that the legislatures have passed
[01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:07.000]  that say now it's okay for recreational use.
[01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:13.000]  And of course there are states that have the medical marijuana regulation going on.
[01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:19.000]  And so it would seem to be, now the feds have said, oh, we're not going to raid,
[01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.000]  we're not going to this and that and this and that, but that's not true.
[01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.000]  They are still raiding the clinics.
[01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:31.000]  And in fact Obama has stepped up the DEA raids of medical marijuana clinics all over the country
[01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:35.000]  in these states that have passed medical marijuana laws and regulated.
[01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:43.000]  And so I think that really one highly effective means that we should try to employ
[01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:46.000]  is a pushback from a state and local level.
[01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.000]  So what do you say about that, Nisha?
[01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:54.000]  What are your thoughts on that or your experience or research on that?
[01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.000]  Well, I agree completely.
[01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:02.000]  You know, I said at one point earlier in the show that at first when I started writing this book,
[01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:06.000]  I was afraid to put my name on it.
[01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:12.000]  And 20 months later I sort of laugh at that, but I was.
[01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:18.000]  You know, I grew up thinking that, oh, you know, this is your brain.
[01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:20.000]  This is your brain on drugs.
[01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:27.000]  And I bought into the whole and just say no campaign.
[01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  And I think that one of the things that I've learned through this entire campaign
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.000]  is that people are scared.
[01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:39.000]  They're scared to speak up and they feel fearful.
[01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  And I just want to remind people that your voice matters
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:47.000]  and that while cannabis is illegal at the federal level, talking about it is not.
[01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:48.000]  All right.
[01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:49.000]  Yes, absolutely.
[01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:50.000]  Call your local officials.
[01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:51.000]  Absolutely.
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:52.000]  All right.
[01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:53.000]  We've got one segment left.
[01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:54.000]  We are going to break.
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[01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:23.000]  MUSIC
[01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:31.000]  Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully.
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[01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:20.000]  OK, folks, we are back. This is our final segment.
[01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:23.000]  If you'd like to call in on topic about medical marijuana or hemp
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[01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:33.000]  And we were discussing getting involved at the state and local level
[01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:39.000]  in order to push back against the tyranny of the feds
[01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:42.000]  because although they're saying they're not going to interfere,
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:45.000]  it's looking like they probably will.
[01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.000]  And they already have been.
[01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:51.000]  And so, Randy, you had some interesting statistics.
[01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:54.000]  And, Doug, we see you there. We're gonna go to your call in just a moment.
[01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:59.000]  But, Randy, you had some interesting statistics you wanted to tell us about.
[01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:01.000]  Go ahead.
[01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.000]  Randy?
[01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  I've been looking through the legal side of the marijuana issue.
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  And just from a general overview, it seems absolutely unequivocal.
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:22.000]  Marijuana is on its way to legalization everywhere.
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:25.000]  The statistics are in favor of it.
[01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:31.000]  I was just reading some statistics here on the break about...
[01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:35.000]  There's a number of statistics, but the ones I found really interesting was
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:46.000]  in 2010, the people who said that they had tried marijuana was 64%.
[01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:51.000]  The people who never tried marijuana was 25%.
[01:48:51.000 --> 01:49:00.000]  In 2013, the people who had tried marijuana went up to 70%.
[01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  And the people who never tried marijuana went up to 35%.
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  I think that extra 5% were the guys who used way too much.
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:17.000]  What study was this? Who did this study, Randy? Who did this poll?
[01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:23.000]  I'm trying to find out. This particular page has given me a little bit of a problem.
[01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:25.000]  It's Pew Research Center.
[01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:30.000]  Pew Research Center. Okay, the P-U, yes. I mean, this is just ridiculous.
[01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  No, no, no. I think that was a typo.
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:39.000]  There were 105% there. Maybe they surveyed too many people.
[01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:44.000]  Well, I think maybe they weren't smoking enough because actually the research has shown
[01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:50.000]  that marijuana causes your brain to grow new brain cells. It actually will boost your IQ.
[01:49:50.000 --> 01:50:01.000]  Across the board, in 1969, 84% were in favor of marijuana being illegal.
[01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:05.000]  12% were in favor of it being legal.
[01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:12.000]  Today, 45 against 52 for the graphs have been closing.
[01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:19.000]  They closed in about 2010, and now they've been widening in the opposite direction.
[01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:27.000]  44 people for legalizing marijuana, and the graphs are moving dramatically.
[01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:33.000]  In year 2000, 61 for illegal, 32 for legal.
[01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:42.000]  Now, what, 10 years later, it's changed 20% in both directions.
[01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  I think part of that is that people are becoming victims of this so-called war on drugs.
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:54.000]  I mean, just a very brief story because I want to get back to our guests and the caller before the show ends,
[01:50:54.000 --> 01:51:01.000]  but just even sort of distant members of my extended family in East Texas
[01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:08.000]  always been staunchly opposed to any kind of drugs, illegal drugs, all this kind of thing,
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:15.000]  and just say no in the whole nine yards, and then one family member's child, a high schooler,
[01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:21.000]  a teenager gets busted with just a little bitty teeny bit, like one or two joints on a Friday,
[01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:30.000]  and the cops wanted to put him in jail and hold him in the tank over the weekend until Monday
[01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:34.000]  with a bunch of hardened criminals and stuff until they could get a magistrate,
[01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:38.000]  and we can go over that magistrate part later, but at any rate, it's like then all of a sudden,
[01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:45.000]  the whole family is like, I can't believe this, what they're doing to my son just over this little tiny thing.
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:48.000]  It's like, okay, well, wake up. It destroys people's lives.
[01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  The prohibition is what's destroying people's lives.
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  Prohibition is what causes the drug cartels and all the violence and everything else.
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:04.000]  So, yeah, and so I wanted to get back to our guest, but quickly this story, you know, the DARE entity
[01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:09.000]  or the Just Say No entity or whatever, several years ago, they put up a big billboard here in Austin
[01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:17.000]  on South 1st Street, and one side said, we asked a bunch of marijuana users to come up with something
[01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.000]  creative for the other side of this billboard, and here's what they came up with,
[01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:26.000]  and it pointed to this giant just blank sheet, you know, it was just like completely blank.
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:31.000]  Well, it only took about a day and a half before somebody got up there with a sheet,
[01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:34.000]  and they did not commit vandalism.
[01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  They used a sheet, and they tied a sheet onto that side of the billboard, and they listed like dozens of statistics
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:45.000]  about how good, you know, the medical use is and how it's never caused any deaths
[01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:48.000]  and all the alcohol-related deaths and everything else, and I took pictures of it.
[01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:50.000]  It was even on the news. It was hilarious.
[01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  Anyway, they took the billboard down in like another week, but at any rate...
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:56.000]  I'd love to post that on my Facebook.
[01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:57.000]  I know, it was awesome.
[01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:00.000]  My chronic disease would be very happy to have a copy of that.
[01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:04.000]  I will see if I can find the picture. That was many years ago, but we've got a few minutes left.
[01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:07.000]  Let's go to our caller, Doug. We only have a few minutes,
[01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:11.000]  so do you have a quick question or comment for our guest?
[01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:16.000]  Well, I have never used marijuana.
[01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:24.000]  I say I never have. I did it about twice when I was a youth or whatever.
[01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:27.000]  I come from Cousins, being a youth.
[01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:28.000]  All right, so what is your question?
[01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:30.000]  We only have a few minutes, so we need to close out with our guest.
[01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:32.000]  Hurry, Doug, please.
[01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:41.000]  I just think that the government doesn't need to tell us what we need to put in our bodies.
[01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:48.000]  They're trying to give us all the vaccines now that kill people, cause degenerative diseases,
[01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:53.000]  and are totally evil, cruel, and nasty.
[01:53:53.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  I think I'd leave it up to the American people to ingest or inject or do whatever with their bodies that they choose to.
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  Do you agree with that?
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:10.000]  Nisha, what are your comments on that?
[01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:11.000]  I agree completely.
[01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:21.000]  You know, there are over 2.2 million people in this country who have medical marijuana licenses.
[01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:26.000]  And you know what? I'm sure that there are some people out there that are abusing it.
[01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:31.000]  But there are people out there that abuse food and everything else.
[01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  And, you know, we've got to go ahead.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.000]  It kind of brings up a question.
[01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:42.000]  Why abuse chocolate on occasion?
[01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:45.000]  I admit it, I'm guilty.
[01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:51.000]  How is abusing marijuana so much different than abusing chocolate?
[01:54:51.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  You know, the problem for abusing marijuana is if it interferes with a person's ability to manage their life.
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:09.000]  And generally speaking, if that happens, it's more of a habit than it is an addiction.
[01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  And I believe that it's generally associated with not the cannabis use,
[01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  but then trying to avoid something else that they probably need to deal with.
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:26.000]  Well, absolutely. And Nisha, anybody can abuse anything and have it cause problems in their life.
[01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:32.000]  There are, you know, people that have eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia and things like that.
[01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:38.000]  They abuse food either by not eating it and being, you know, super concerned about their weight,
[01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:44.000]  or they do the binge and purge thing and with laxatives and make themselves vomit so that they can binge on food.
[01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:48.000]  I mean, does that mean that we should make food illegal because there are bulimics out there?
[01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:53.000]  I mean, this is absolutely, and that absolutely does affect their life because it affects their health.
[01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:58.000]  They lose control. They lose their jobs because they're always in the bathroom and things like that.
[01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:03.000]  So, I mean, it's just ridiculous to say we should make something illegal because somebody might abuse it.
[01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:05.000]  I mean, come on.
[01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:17.000]  That was kind of my point. How is abusing marijuana so dramatically different than abusing food or abusing tobacco?
[01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:20.000]  It's no different than abusing alcohol or tobacco.
[01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:26.000]  Well, it's a lot different than abusing alcohol. You kill a lot of people and yourself, you're abusing alcohol.
[01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:31.000]  Well, that's true, but alcohol is legal and it is your right to do that.
[01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:36.000]  Yes, there are consequences for it.
[01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:43.000]  If they're going to make something illegal because of potential for abuse, it absolutely should be tobacco.
[01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:46.000]  I mean, alcohol first, tobacco second.
[01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:53.000]  Yeah, and we saw how that worked out in the days of prohibition with all the mobs and the gangs and everything,
[01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:57.000]  and that's exactly what's happening now with the drug cartel.
[01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:00.000]  There wouldn't be a drug cartel. There wouldn't be any drug violence at all,
[01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:07.000]  and we wouldn't have millions and millions of people in prison and their lives ruined from prohibition for, you know,
[01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:10.000]  possessing tiny amounts of a plant that is harmless.
[01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:16.000]  All right, listen, we are coming into our final minute and a half of the show here.
[01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  So, Nisha, I would like to thank you very much for joining us and spending so much time with us tonight,
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:25.000]  and if you could please go ahead and give out your websites again in the name of your book.
[01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:30.000]  Is your book available yet? Can we read it online or is it not finished yet?
[01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:35.000]  Please tell us a little bit about your book and your websites again before we run out of time here.
[01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:41.000]  Great. Well, Deborah and Randy, thank you both very much for this opportunity,
[01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:46.000]  and if you can hear the sound of my voice, thank you very much for listening.
[01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  I want to encourage everybody to remember, speak up. Talking about cannabis is not illegal.
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:58:00.000]  Our book, Chronic Relief, A Guide to Cannabis for the Terminally and Chronically Ill, has not been published yet,
[01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  and that's why we have the crowdfunding campaign.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:08.000]  We have 10 days left to raise the funds to publish it.
[01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  We are 37% towards our goal. We've raised about $6,500, almost $6,600, I think, and we're trying to raise $18,000.
[01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:26.000]  My goal is that the book will be released in early 2014.
[01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:31.000]  I have not finished it completely. We've got a couple of sections left to finish in the book,
[01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:39.000]  but I sure hope that it helps millions of people get the relief that they so deserve.
[01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:44.000]  Amen to that. All right, we are out of time. Go to MyChronicRelief.com.
[01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:50.000]  Thank you, Nisha, and we'll be back tomorrow night. God bless and good night.
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