[00:00.000 --> 00:09.000]  You're listening to the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist updates.
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[00:15.000 --> 00:17.000]  This is Justin Armand.
[00:17.000 --> 00:19.000]  And this is Jessica Armand.
[00:19.000 --> 00:23.000]  Here with your Liberty Beat for Thursday, September 12, 2013.
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[00:57.000 --> 00:59.000]  And now the news.
[00:59.000 --> 01:05.000]  The United States government's MKUltra project will be the focus of an upcoming forum in Toronto, Canada.
[01:05.000 --> 01:12.000]  Billed as MKUltra and Project Monarch, a survivor's tale, the forum will feature Kathy O'Brien,
[01:12.000 --> 01:17.000]  a survivor of the government's once top-secret experiments focused on mind control,
[01:17.000 --> 01:20.000]  often using unknowing test subjects.
[01:20.000 --> 01:27.000]  The forum will also feature actress and activist Roseanne Barr and MKUltra insider Mark Phillips.
[01:27.000 --> 01:38.000]  The forum will be held October 20 and is sponsored by the organization Conspiracy Culture.
[01:38.000 --> 01:40.000]  Yesterday, to commemorate 9-11,
[01:40.000 --> 01:44.000]  Canyon Ridge Middle School administration decided to run a drill that they called
[01:44.000 --> 01:47.000]  lockdown as preparation for potential threats.
[01:47.000 --> 01:52.000]  The children were told to get in the fetal position under their desks for a prolonged period of time.
[01:52.000 --> 01:57.000]  The school is using the same shrill noise used in prisons when inmates are locked down.
[01:57.000 --> 02:02.000]  Teachers also brought in pictures of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers on 9-11.
[02:02.000 --> 02:03.000]  One parent writes,
[02:03.000 --> 02:08.000]  I'm extremely disgusted at this and how my tax dollars are being used to instill fear,
[02:08.000 --> 02:16.000]  intimidation, and institutionalization into children.
[02:16.000 --> 02:22.000]  A former national security agency analyst and counterintelligence officer of 10 years
[02:22.000 --> 02:29.000]  has claimed that whistleblower Edward Snowden is very likely an agent of Russian intelligence.
[02:29.000 --> 02:34.000]  John R. Schindler is professor of national affairs at the U.S. Naval War College
[02:34.000 --> 02:39.000]  and has been following the case of the former intelligence contractor from the beginning
[02:39.000 --> 02:45.000]  and believes that Snowden has had contact with the Russian government prior to the release of the documents
[02:45.000 --> 02:49.000]  and is likely a part of a larger intelligence propaganda campaign.
[02:49.000 --> 02:55.000]  Schindler also stated that WikiLeaks is functionally an extension of Russian intelligence.
[02:55.000 --> 03:18.000]  If you've been listening to the Liberty League, remember, freeing your mind is freeing our world.
[03:26.000 --> 03:30.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:30.000 --> 03:32.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:32.000 --> 03:35.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:35.000 --> 03:38.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:38.000 --> 03:41.000]  When you were eight and you had bad traits
[03:41.000 --> 03:43.000]  You'd go to school and learn the golden rules
[03:43.000 --> 03:46.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[03:46.000 --> 03:49.000]  If you get high then you must get cool
[03:49.000 --> 03:52.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:52.000 --> 03:55.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:55.000 --> 03:58.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:58.000 --> 04:01.000]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:01.000 --> 04:29.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[04:31.000 --> 04:38.000]  Even my wife was saying the other day, the only one in the election who didn't want to start a fight was Ron Paul.
[04:38.000 --> 04:46.000]  And here we have all of these politicians, Kane and others,
[04:46.000 --> 04:51.000]  pushing the United States to attack Syria.
[04:51.000 --> 05:00.000]  And Kerry, in an offhanded remark in an interview, I believe he was in Great Britain,
[05:00.000 --> 05:11.000]  an offhanded remark to a very quick question by a reporter asking Kerry,
[05:11.000 --> 05:20.000]  is there anything that Syria could do to keep the United States from attacking them?
[05:20.000 --> 05:30.000]  And Kerry made a very serious diplomatic blunder.
[05:30.000 --> 05:33.000]  He spoke off the cuff.
[05:33.000 --> 05:42.000]  And he said if they turned over all of their chemical weapons to the control of the United Nations,
[05:42.000 --> 05:46.000]  then we would not attack them.
[05:46.000 --> 05:58.000]  And Russia picked up on the idea, proposed it to the Syrian president Assad, and he jumped on it.
[05:58.000 --> 06:15.000]  I believe in all of my experience this could be the biggest butt-kicking next to impeachment I've ever seen a president have to take.
[06:15.000 --> 06:27.000]  I saw the president on television agreeing to stop pushing for an attack on Syria
[06:27.000 --> 06:40.000]  based on their agreement and contingent upon an agreement to turn over all of their weapons to UN inspectors.
[06:40.000 --> 06:45.000]  I suspect this will end Kerry's diplomatic career,
[06:45.000 --> 06:54.000]  but I have been concerned that based on some other things that I've talked about on the show,
[06:54.000 --> 06:59.000]  primarily the naked short-selling of stocks,
[06:59.000 --> 07:08.000]  and that is how the Rothschilds and Bilderbergs crashed the market in 1929.
[07:08.000 --> 07:16.000]  That's how they crashed the market in 1985 and how they crashed it in 2008.
[07:16.000 --> 07:24.000]  And based on an alleged report by the Defense Department of Irregular Warfare,
[07:24.000 --> 07:30.000]  they intend to crash it again using the exact same techniques.
[07:30.000 --> 07:43.000]  And I was very concerned that Obama was setting up another military engagement to use as cover
[07:43.000 --> 07:50.000]  this report from the supposed Defense Department of Irregular Warfare,
[07:50.000 --> 08:04.000]  which accused the OPEC nations acting in conjunction with Sharia-influenced investments,
[08:04.000 --> 08:10.000]  which include a number of national investment hedge funds,
[08:10.000 --> 08:21.000]  of deliberately short-selling the market on Lehman Brothers, Shearson Lehman, and others,
[08:21.000 --> 08:28.000]  and very deliberately caused the economic crash of 2008.
[08:28.000 --> 08:33.000]  This report called that an attack on the U.S. economy.
[08:33.000 --> 08:43.000]  They called the dramatic increases in oil prices by the OPEC nations in 2007 as a direct attack on the U.S. economy
[08:43.000 --> 08:49.000]  and claimed that they were prepared to perpetrate a third.
[08:49.000 --> 08:56.000]  Now, if the government says it, you can be certain it's a lie.
[08:56.000 --> 09:05.000]  So the government feeds us this nonsense story about al-Qaeda.
[09:05.000 --> 09:17.000]  And this goes right into what Charles A. Lindbergh, the flyer's father, who was at the time a congressman,
[09:17.000 --> 09:25.000]  and was lobbying against the institution of a federal bank, the Federal Reserve,
[09:25.000 --> 09:34.000]  it's exactly what he warned about when he addressed the banker's manifesto
[09:34.000 --> 09:40.000]  that was attributed to James Pierpont Morgan,
[09:40.000 --> 09:47.000]  although there's indication that this wasn't really a banker's manifesto that they might have just made it up.
[09:47.000 --> 09:55.000]  But in any case, it indicated that it was the intention of these old and big money interests
[09:55.000 --> 10:02.000]  to keep the public engaged in controversy about which the banks could care less
[10:02.000 --> 10:08.000]  while they worked out their plans and did what they intended to do.
[10:08.000 --> 10:17.000]  Well, it looks as though that's exactly what they're trying to do with this supposed unclassified report
[10:17.000 --> 10:21.000]  by the Defense Department of Irregular Warfare.
[10:21.000 --> 10:27.000]  Think about it. Who's ever heard of the Defense Department of Irregular Warfare?
[10:27.000 --> 10:33.000]  Looks like they made it up. I did some research on the Defense Department of Irregular Warfare.
[10:33.000 --> 10:43.000]  And all they deal with is how to handle boots on the ground in unusual circumstances.
[10:43.000 --> 10:48.000]  And then this sophisticated financial report comes out of that institution
[10:48.000 --> 10:54.000]  that tends to have nothing to do with sophisticated financial attacks.
[10:54.000 --> 10:58.000]  I read that as horse manure.
[10:58.000 --> 11:03.000]  They're trying to set up beforehand a boogeyman
[11:03.000 --> 11:11.000]  so that when the old money interests come in and crash the market again, they've got someone to blame it on.
[11:11.000 --> 11:21.000]  The OPEC nations, the Islamic world are continuing to do what they've done since the Middle Ages.
[11:21.000 --> 11:31.000]  Pit the Christians against the Muslims, keep them fighting with each other, supply arms and aid to both sides.
[11:31.000 --> 11:40.000]  Then once they've used up all of their equity, then sell all their property back to them
[11:40.000 --> 11:44.000]  and mortgage their lives for the next generation.
[11:44.000 --> 11:48.000]  It looks like they're preparing to do the same thing again here.
[11:48.000 --> 11:58.000]  And I was concerned that Obama was promoting another Islamic attack to cover the crash
[11:58.000 --> 12:04.000]  that these same influences were preparing to perpetrate.
[12:04.000 --> 12:13.000]  In order to get the public to fall in behind the attack and turn against Islam,
[12:13.000 --> 12:18.000]  they needed to have this attack on an Islamic nation.
[12:18.000 --> 12:24.000]  And I have no doubt that he intended to have this vote by 9-11.
[12:24.000 --> 12:29.000]  So on the anniversary of 9-11, he could charge into another Islamic country
[12:29.000 --> 12:36.000]  and start blowing them apart like they did Afghanistan after 9-11.
[12:36.000 --> 12:44.000]  Well, Randy, you know, the administration has said that they're just going to do it anyway
[12:44.000 --> 12:47.000]  regardless of the congressional vote.
[12:47.000 --> 12:50.000]  So we'll see if they really mean that or not.
[12:50.000 --> 12:55.000]  And here's the other thing about Assad that I'm concerned, you know, like what you're talking about,
[12:55.000 --> 13:03.000]  Assad saying, oh, okay, fine, I'll turn the chemical weapons over to the UN.
[13:03.000 --> 13:07.000]  And so, yeah, that seems to basically hold our government to the fire.
[13:07.000 --> 13:09.000]  Well, I don't know if you knew this.
[13:09.000 --> 13:20.000]  Today he came out and said in the news, in RIA News Novosti, RIA Novosti,
[13:20.000 --> 13:27.000]  I think this is a Russian news source, he told them that he's still,
[13:27.000 --> 13:32.000]  the offer is still on the table about turning over his chemical weapons to the UN,
[13:32.000 --> 13:38.000]  but he says he's only going to do that if our government promises
[13:38.000 --> 13:42.000]  that they're not going to arm the rebels anymore.
[13:42.000 --> 13:44.000]  That's fair enough.
[13:44.000 --> 13:47.000]  That's fair enough, of course, obviously.
[13:47.000 --> 13:53.000]  But I don't see our government stopping arming.
[13:53.000 --> 13:58.000]  They're not going to stop supporting al-Qaeda, okay, on record.
[13:58.000 --> 14:03.000]  They may, you know, they're not admitting to supporting al-Qaeda
[14:03.000 --> 14:05.000]  and all these guys as it is.
[14:05.000 --> 14:10.000]  Well, they are admitting to funding and giving arms to the so-called rebel groups.
[14:10.000 --> 14:13.000]  It doesn't make any difference what they do.
[14:13.000 --> 14:18.000]  This die is cast.
[14:18.000 --> 14:22.000]  Obama has lost all of his momentum, if he ever had any.
[14:22.000 --> 14:25.000]  I would also say that part of this victory,
[14:25.000 --> 14:30.000]  and this has been, you know, a topic of conversation throughout the new media,
[14:30.000 --> 14:33.000]  I'm not going to call it alternative media anymore.
[14:33.000 --> 14:34.000]  It's not alternative.
[14:34.000 --> 14:39.000]  Our media is basically, or our genre of media is basically mainstream media now.
[14:39.000 --> 14:44.000]  I call it the new media as opposed to the dinosaur media or the decepticon media
[14:44.000 --> 14:47.000]  or the prestitute media, whatever you want to call it in those terms.
[14:47.000 --> 14:52.000]  But the new media, this has been a big topic that because the new media has become
[14:52.000 --> 14:56.000]  so prevailing because of the Internet and, you know,
[14:56.000 --> 15:04.000]  people that can get on radio, on FM stations and TV stations and things like that,
[15:04.000 --> 15:06.000]  the new media has become so prevailing,
[15:06.000 --> 15:09.000]  especially with all the social media, social networking,
[15:09.000 --> 15:14.000]  that it's not like the old school days where the bad guys had complete
[15:14.000 --> 15:16.000]  100% control over all the media.
[15:16.000 --> 15:21.000]  And I think the fact that we're getting the truth out about what's really going on
[15:21.000 --> 15:27.000]  over there, what our government is doing, it's really making a big difference.
[15:27.000 --> 15:32.000]  Even Brzezinski said, even as the big new Brzezinski said a couple of weeks ago
[15:32.000 --> 15:36.000]  that the new media and the global awakening, he calls it,
[15:36.000 --> 15:40.000]  and because of the Internet and all the social media and so-called
[15:40.000 --> 15:43.000]  alternative media sources, which I call new media,
[15:43.000 --> 15:50.000]  that it's making it very difficult on them to implement their plans for war.
[15:50.000 --> 15:54.000]  He basically said that. That's almost a direct quote.
[15:54.000 --> 15:56.000]  I mean, people can go look it up.
[15:56.000 --> 16:02.000]  He said that on an interview with the German media.
[16:02.000 --> 16:03.000]  Times are changing.
[16:03.000 --> 16:06.000]  Times are changing. It's a good thing.
[16:06.000 --> 16:13.000]  It is a good thing, and we're having, I hope that it is us that's having that effect,
[16:13.000 --> 16:16.000]  but if it's not us, whatever it is that's having the effect,
[16:16.000 --> 16:24.000]  I most appreciate the Internet because it's like a thing that's alive.
[16:24.000 --> 16:26.000]  When we come back, we're about to go to break,
[16:26.000 --> 16:31.000]  I'd like to talk a little bit about the origins of the Internet.
[16:31.000 --> 16:39.000]  There's just something so intuitively satisfying about the origins of the Internet,
[16:39.000 --> 16:48.000]  and the fact that it's giving these people so much problem is even more appealing
[16:48.000 --> 16:51.000]  because these are the guys who created it.
[16:51.000 --> 16:54.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[16:54.000 --> 17:00.000]  Our call-in number, 512-646-1984, we'll be right back.
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[19:08.000 --> 19:27.000]  Look what we've got, who we are as we're Christians.
[19:27.000 --> 19:42.000]  Look what we've got, and they don't have an answer.
[19:42.000 --> 19:57.000]  Look what we've got, and they don't have an answer.
[19:57.000 --> 20:12.000]  Look what we've got, and they don't have an answer.
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[20:39.000 --> 20:43.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
[20:43.000 --> 20:49.000]  and we went out talking about this living thing we call the Internet.
[20:49.000 --> 20:55.000]  The whole story of the Internet is just absolutely uplifting.
[20:55.000 --> 21:02.000]  Some guy at Fermilabs was unhappy with the operating systems they had
[21:02.000 --> 21:08.000]  in order to run their computers and primarily their databases and storage systems.
[21:08.000 --> 21:13.000]  It wasn't adequate, so he sat down and wrote one.
[21:13.000 --> 21:19.000]  And he was a true scientist. They didn't care about money and economics and all of that.
[21:19.000 --> 21:24.000]  So he wrote this really incredible operating system,
[21:24.000 --> 21:27.000]  and everybody told him how much money he could make with it.
[21:27.000 --> 21:31.000]  And he said, heck with that, he's just going to give it away.
[21:31.000 --> 21:34.000]  And he gave away Unix.
[21:34.000 --> 21:39.000]  And Unix eventually became Linux, which is the basis,
[21:39.000 --> 21:42.000]  primarily the backbone of the Internet.
[21:42.000 --> 21:48.000]  And how the Internet got started was the Pentagon was concerned
[21:48.000 --> 21:53.000]  that they had different colleges doing research
[21:53.000 --> 21:57.000]  and different government contractors doing research.
[21:57.000 --> 22:02.000]  And a study showed that they had companies doing redundant research.
[22:02.000 --> 22:05.000]  Essentially, one hand didn't know what the other was doing.
[22:05.000 --> 22:08.000]  So they went to their computer people and said,
[22:08.000 --> 22:13.000]  can you guys do something so we can connect these folks together
[22:13.000 --> 22:17.000]  so that they can share their research with one another
[22:17.000 --> 22:21.000]  so we won't be paying two different outfits to do the same research?
[22:21.000 --> 22:25.000]  So they said sure, and they come up with this thing called networking.
[22:25.000 --> 22:32.000]  And they rented 1-800 trunk lines and tied them.
[22:32.000 --> 22:36.000]  They were dedicated lines because this is top secret stuff they're pushing around.
[22:36.000 --> 22:43.000]  So they got dedicated lines from a university doing research to the Pentagon
[22:43.000 --> 22:48.000]  and from the Pentagon to these government contractors doing research.
[22:48.000 --> 22:50.000]  And this worked pretty good.
[22:50.000 --> 22:55.000]  So the contractor and the colleges said, well, you know,
[22:55.000 --> 22:58.000]  going through the Pentagon here is kind of a pain in the neck.
[22:58.000 --> 23:01.000]  So they leased 800 trunk lines between them.
[23:01.000 --> 23:04.000]  So they talked directly back and forth.
[23:04.000 --> 23:10.000]  And then they leased lines where they could talk to their counterparts overseas.
[23:10.000 --> 23:15.000]  And the Pentagon finally looked at this and said, hold on here, guys.
[23:15.000 --> 23:17.000]  This is getting out of hand.
[23:17.000 --> 23:23.000]  You guys are renting these other trunk lines and you're bypassing us.
[23:23.000 --> 23:26.000]  You're either going to have to give us control of this
[23:26.000 --> 23:31.000]  or we're going to remove our Internet hub or our network hub.
[23:31.000 --> 23:37.000]  And the contractors in the colleges looked at the situation and they said, go ahead.
[23:37.000 --> 23:39.000]  We don't care.
[23:39.000 --> 23:42.000]  We just go around it.
[23:42.000 --> 23:45.000]  And that's exactly what they did.
[23:45.000 --> 23:49.000]  And from that, the Internet grew.
[23:49.000 --> 23:56.000]  Companies all over the world were renting these 1-800 trunk lines.
[23:56.000 --> 24:00.000]  They're dedicated lines, but they didn't need them all the time.
[24:00.000 --> 24:05.000]  And there are other companies that had lines that these guys could use on occasion,
[24:05.000 --> 24:10.000]  but they couldn't afford to buy the whole line, so they made this deal.
[24:10.000 --> 24:15.000]  If I'm not using my line, I'll make it available for open access
[24:15.000 --> 24:17.000]  since I'm paying for it anyway.
[24:17.000 --> 24:19.000]  They're sitting there not doing nothing.
[24:19.000 --> 24:23.000]  I'll make it available for open access if you'll do the same.
[24:23.000 --> 24:33.000]  And of all of the things that is an example of unfettered cooperation,
[24:33.000 --> 24:36.000]  the Internet is an example of exactly that.
[24:36.000 --> 24:41.000]  It's built on a software someone developed and gave it away.
[24:41.000 --> 24:45.000]  Anybody can use it on the condition they don't set it.
[24:45.000 --> 24:51.000]  And then these guys bought all these trunk lines and let everybody else use them.
[24:51.000 --> 24:53.000]  Don't charge them anything.
[24:53.000 --> 24:54.000]  You let us use yours.
[24:54.000 --> 24:57.000]  We'll let you use ours.
[24:57.000 --> 24:59.000]  The Internet grew out of that.
[24:59.000 --> 25:07.000]  And because it was made up of separate phone lines that different companies essentially owned,
[25:07.000 --> 25:10.000]  nobody owns this thing.
[25:10.000 --> 25:13.000]  Anybody can say, well, I don't like the way this is going.
[25:13.000 --> 25:14.000]  I'm going to pull out.
[25:14.000 --> 25:16.000]  They just pull out all of their lines.
[25:16.000 --> 25:17.000]  Nobody cares.
[25:17.000 --> 25:19.000]  Nobody will notice.
[25:19.000 --> 25:23.000]  We have so many now that we'll just trace right around it and keep going.
[25:23.000 --> 25:25.000]  The Internet will never notice.
[25:25.000 --> 25:28.000]  And then comes along President Clinton.
[25:28.000 --> 25:30.000]  What a guy.
[25:30.000 --> 25:33.000]  He is going to help us all out.
[25:33.000 --> 25:45.000]  He's going to speed up the Internet and build this Internet superhighway as a Internet backbone
[25:45.000 --> 25:51.000]  where everybody will get much faster Internet.
[25:51.000 --> 25:57.000]  All you have to do is give the government control of it.
[25:57.000 --> 26:06.000]  And to the credit of the Internet, the Internet seemingly as a whole told Clinton
[26:06.000 --> 26:10.000]  to stuff your Internet backbone.
[26:10.000 --> 26:15.000]  We'll keep our pokey slow lines and we'll deal with it.
[26:15.000 --> 26:19.000]  But we'll deal with it however we want to.
[26:19.000 --> 26:27.000]  In George Orwell's book 1984, he predicted that the government would get control
[26:27.000 --> 26:33.000]  of all of the information and thereby get complete control of the people.
[26:33.000 --> 26:37.000]  Well, he never counted on the Internet.
[26:37.000 --> 26:41.000]  It just didn't work out that way.
[26:41.000 --> 26:45.000]  It seems that instead of the government getting control of all of the information,
[26:45.000 --> 26:48.000]  it was the public that did.
[26:48.000 --> 26:56.000]  Where one man like Snowden could look at what's going on in the government
[26:56.000 --> 27:00.000]  and say this is just wrong.
[27:00.000 --> 27:06.000]  And one man dropped that on the Internet and it's gone viral so fast
[27:06.000 --> 27:11.000]  that if they were sitting there watching it and tried to collect it back,
[27:11.000 --> 27:15.000]  it would have gotten away from them anyway.
[27:15.000 --> 27:24.000]  So now we have Kerry on national TV in an interview
[27:24.000 --> 27:28.000]  drop this flippant offhand statement.
[27:28.000 --> 27:33.000]  And just about everybody on the planet who's interested can hear it.
[27:33.000 --> 27:40.000]  The Russians did hear it, picked up on it, and the whole thing goes viral so fast
[27:40.000 --> 27:44.000]  the government can't keep it under control and I get the opportunity.
[27:44.000 --> 27:54.000]  I'm seeing Obama on national television with one humongous pie in his face.
[27:54.000 --> 28:06.000]  I've seen in the past situations where the public officials have to back up
[28:06.000 --> 28:10.000]  because of public pressure, but I've never seen it fall on them
[28:10.000 --> 28:14.000]  like a ton of bricks the way this one did.
[28:14.000 --> 28:19.000]  Essentially overnight the sky completely fell in on Obama
[28:19.000 --> 28:25.000]  and the biggest problem he has with this is it's not so much Assad
[28:25.000 --> 28:31.000]  and cruise missiles going into Syria.
[28:31.000 --> 28:38.000]  It is an absolute major black eye for U.S. diplomacy.
[28:38.000 --> 28:43.000]  The president and all of these top officials can't think of any way
[28:43.000 --> 28:48.000]  to handle this situation other than to go in there and see how many people
[28:48.000 --> 28:54.000]  we could kill how quickly at a distance without losing any of our troops.
[28:54.000 --> 29:06.000]  And an offhanded remark puts a viable solution on the table in an instant
[29:06.000 --> 29:08.000]  and changes everything.
[29:08.000 --> 29:13.000]  This rewrites the political landscape.
[29:13.000 --> 29:18.000]  The Obama administration as far as diplomatically I think it has
[29:18.000 --> 29:21.000]  absolutely been totally discredited.
[29:21.000 --> 29:26.000]  If Obama was trying to engineer a pathway to this next major crash
[29:26.000 --> 29:32.000]  to where they could blame it on Islam, I think he screwed that pathway up big time
[29:32.000 --> 29:36.000]  and I could not be more pleased.
[29:36.000 --> 29:39.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Root of Law Radio.
[29:39.000 --> 29:40.000]  We have a couple callers on the board.
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[33:29.000 --> 33:46.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rue La Radio. And before we go to calls, we had one quick comment Deborah wanted to make about an email comment we got concerning the validity of certain so-called propaganda media.
[33:46.000 --> 33:52.000]  Oh, yeah. I just wanted to comment on some of the stuff you were talking about, the Internet, too, before we go to calls.
[33:52.000 --> 34:14.000]  And we are going to go to calls. But I was reporting on what Novosti Press had reported that Assad had told them about saying that, you know, he'll turn over the chemical weapons if the U.S. promises to stop intervening in his country and stop arming the rebels.
[34:14.000 --> 34:24.000]  And I got a message from someone saying, oh, Novosti has admitted propaganda media press, whatever. And I have heard that before, too.
[34:24.000 --> 34:35.000]  But the thing is, if Assad said that, he said that. It doesn't really matter who he said it to. It doesn't really matter what media outlet he released that statement through.
[34:35.000 --> 34:46.000]  I mean, so I really don't understand that point. I mean, he could have said it to ABC, he could have said it to NBC. I mean, Putin wrote an open letter to the American people and it was published in the New York Times.
[34:46.000 --> 34:54.000]  I mean, so does that mean that we should completely discount the validity of Putin's statements? I mean, see, the thing-
[34:54.000 --> 35:02.000]  Wait a second. Wait a second, Deborah. You said NBC and ABC with the implication that they were not propagating.
[35:02.000 --> 35:08.000]  No, I said that NBC and ABC with the implication that they are propaganda media, that they are mainstream media.
[35:08.000 --> 35:19.000]  All right. It wouldn't matter. I mean, should we discount it if he said that through NBC or ABC? I mean, I'm saying, I mean, should we not discount it if he said it through that?
[35:19.000 --> 35:31.000]  Or should we discount it if he said it through that? I mean, it doesn't matter. However you want to ask the question, the point is it doesn't matter if he said it through propaganda media like NBC or ABC or Novosti.
[35:31.000 --> 35:38.000]  It doesn't matter if he said it on the Alex Jones show. It really doesn't matter. If he said it, he said it. That's the point.
[35:38.000 --> 35:46.000]  And in the article, it does say that he was speaking in Arabic with a Russian translator.
[35:46.000 --> 35:57.000]  Okay, so what are we going to do? We're going to say, oh, well, maybe that was an inaccurate translation just like what they did to Ahmadinejad, okay, when the New York Times and all these other media outlets said that
[35:57.000 --> 36:07.000]  Ahmadinejad said he was going to wipe Israel off the face of the map. He never said that, okay. That was a completely inaccurate skewed translation.
[36:07.000 --> 36:18.000]  He didn't say anything remotely similar to that. And it became such a scandal in the new media and throughout the world that eventually the New York Times had to retract it.
[36:18.000 --> 36:30.000]  And so did all the other dinosaur propaganda media had to retract it even though the little retractions were, you know, teeny tiny microscopic prints on the back page or whatever.
[36:30.000 --> 36:47.000]  But the point is Assad can speak English, all right, and so can Putin. And so Putin can go and read the article, you know, what the New York Times printed as his open letter and verify for himself if it's true or not because we have the Internet now.
[36:47.000 --> 36:57.000]  Well, same thing with Assad. Assad can go to the Novosti website and look at the article and he can read English and he can verify for himself if that translation is accurate or not.
[36:57.000 --> 37:04.000]  And if it's not, then, of course, we're going to hear a big stink about it just like what happened with Ahmadinejad.
[37:04.000 --> 37:09.000]  See, and this is the beauty, again, this is the beauty of the Internet, all right.
[37:09.000 --> 37:17.000]  These rogues cannot get away with the lies anymore because we're watching them through the Internet.
[37:17.000 --> 37:33.000]  And I think some of these world leaders have learned that they better learn to speak English and Assad does speak English and Putin does speak English and not just rely on translations because of exactly the sort of thing that happened to Ahmadinejad.
[37:33.000 --> 37:39.000]  All right, and so I think it's a beautiful thing. We've got the, you know, these people learning English. They can check up.
[37:39.000 --> 37:43.000]  They can publish statements on the Internet for everyone to see.
[37:43.000 --> 38:00.000]  They can conduct interviews and if they feel more comfortable speaking in their native language with a translator, well, then they can check for themselves on the translation because they're learning to speak the language, you know, the English language or whatever other languages that these prostitutes are publishing in.
[38:00.000 --> 38:06.000]  So, I mean, I don't really, I don't really quite get the point of the comment about Novasi prescribing propaganda.
[38:06.000 --> 38:10.000]  So what, even if they are, if Assad said it, he said it.
[38:10.000 --> 38:15.000]  And I think that that is, I think that it's very valid what he said.
[38:15.000 --> 38:18.000]  I think it's a perfectly reasonable position.
[38:18.000 --> 38:34.000]  We'll turn our chemical weapons over to the United Nations. If you stop interfering in our country and get out and stop funding the insurgents, stop funding al-Qaeda, stop giving them weapons, leave us alone, butt out.
[38:34.000 --> 38:36.000]  This is none of your business.
[38:36.000 --> 38:42.000]  All right, fine. You stop and then we'll turn our chemical weapons over. I think it's a perfectly reasonable position.
[38:42.000 --> 38:52.000]  If Assad never actually said that, if it's an inaccurate translation like what happened to Ahmadinejad, I'm sure we'll be hearing about it within a matter of a day.
[38:52.000 --> 39:03.000]  Well, that technique of saying that this broadcast media was propagandist, that's a standard propagandist technique called poisoning the well.
[39:03.000 --> 39:11.000]  If somebody says something you don't like but you can't refute, then attack the messenger instead of the message.
[39:11.000 --> 39:15.000]  Standard techniques right there in the front of the book on propaganda.
[39:15.000 --> 39:30.000]  Besides, is there a broadcast media network anywhere that doesn't have its political stance?
[39:30.000 --> 39:43.000]  You could say that any media who transmits news or information through the filter of their own perspective is a propaganda media.
[39:43.000 --> 39:51.000]  So the idea of not listening to someone because you don't think they agree with you, well, that's nonsense.
[39:51.000 --> 40:05.000]  The bottom line is I don't see how anybody who is a reasonable person, a person of reasonable prudence, as you say, Randy, can deny that Assad is taking a reasonable position.
[40:05.000 --> 40:12.000]  He has to be able to defend himself if our military is going to go in there and meddle in his affairs.
[40:12.000 --> 40:14.000]  It's just completely ridiculous.
[40:14.000 --> 40:22.000]  But the main point is all of these problems can be taken care of regarding inaccurate or intentionally inaccurate translations, et cetera, et cetera,
[40:22.000 --> 40:29.000]  because these world leaders are learning to speak English now, and everything that happens is all over the Internet for anyone to see.
[40:29.000 --> 40:33.000]  And even Senator Jay Rockefeller, it's blowing up in their face.
[40:33.000 --> 40:43.000]  Yes, they invented the Internet, and I don't think they ever foresaw that it would end up being used by us the way that it is.
[40:43.000 --> 40:53.000]  They figured it would just be another way to spoon feed us a bunch of crap or something that they could use to just get more money out of us or whatever.
[40:53.000 --> 41:04.000]  But we've completely turned it on its head, and even Senator Jay Rockefeller said that he wished the Internet had never been invented.
[41:04.000 --> 41:06.000]  That's good news.
[41:06.000 --> 41:09.000]  So yes, and what Brzezinski is talking about is good news.
[41:09.000 --> 41:12.000]  I mean, we are giving these people a run for their money.
[41:12.000 --> 41:22.000]  I think we are having an effect, and there's a lot of criticism towards people in the new media that are exposing these issues,
[41:22.000 --> 41:27.000]  saying, oh, well, all you do is tell us about the bad things, but you don't give us any remedies.
[41:27.000 --> 41:38.000]  Well, sometimes just the act of spreading the information is in of itself a remedy, because, hey, over 90 percent of this is a PSYOP war.
[41:38.000 --> 41:39.000]  It's propaganda war.
[41:39.000 --> 41:41.000]  It's an info war.
[41:41.000 --> 41:43.000]  Even Hillary Clinton admitted it's an info war.
[41:43.000 --> 41:51.000]  They're losing the info war, and the way they do their mind control and brainwashing is all through controlled information.
[41:51.000 --> 42:01.000]  And so we blow most of their plan just by spreading the truth and putting a stop to the propaganda.
[42:01.000 --> 42:06.000]  You see people sometimes that they're just completely brainwashed and mind controlled.
[42:06.000 --> 42:08.000]  It looks like they have spirals in their eyes.
[42:08.000 --> 42:12.000]  You know, like the spirals spinning in their eyes.
[42:12.000 --> 42:16.000]  You know, we're putting a stop to the spirals spinning in the eyes, okay?
[42:16.000 --> 42:21.000]  We're getting people to see clearly here, and that in and of itself is making a difference.
[42:21.000 --> 42:30.000]  So that's all I have to say about that, you know, to put to rest all this stupid criticism that, oh, you're just talking about the problems without giving solutions.
[42:30.000 --> 42:33.000]  Well, telling you what the truth is is a solution in and of itself.
[42:33.000 --> 42:42.000]  And on this show, we go beyond that, and we teach people how to sue these rogues and go after them criminally, et cetera, in court.
[42:42.000 --> 42:49.000]  Yeah, I started to say telling the truth generally leads directly to the remedy.
[42:49.000 --> 42:50.000]  Right.
[42:50.000 --> 43:01.000]  And in this case, the remedy was so incredibly simple, so straightforward that the administration got one incredible black eye, and I'm glad to see it.
[43:01.000 --> 43:03.000]  Yes, indeed.
[43:03.000 --> 43:06.000]  Okay, Sharon, I apologize, but we're going to get to you a little quicker.
[43:06.000 --> 43:10.000]  We will get to you as soon as we come back on the other side.
[43:10.000 --> 43:12.000]  And, Matt, I see you there.
[43:12.000 --> 43:16.000]  We will take your questions and comments.
[43:16.000 --> 43:20.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[43:20.000 --> 43:25.000]  We will be taking questions all night, and tomorrow night as well.
[43:25.000 --> 43:27.000]  We'll be on for our four-hour info.
[43:27.000 --> 43:35.000]  Yes, and also, we didn't say the date at the beginning of the show. This is September 12, Thursday, September 12, 2013, for those who are listening on Archive.
[43:35.000 --> 43:40.000]  Okay, yeah, I kind of implied it because I was pleased to see Obama.
[43:40.000 --> 43:48.000]  I think he was trying to announce his garbage on September 11, and it all got screwed up on him. Yahoo.
[43:48.000 --> 43:52.000]  It always pleases me when their machinations blow up in their faces.
[43:52.000 --> 43:57.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[43:57.000 --> 44:02.000]  We'll be right back on the other side.
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[46:29.000 --> 46:35.000]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and we're going to go to Sharon in California.
[46:35.000 --> 46:38.000]  You have a question on foreclosure for us.
[46:38.000 --> 46:39.000]  Yes, I do.
[46:39.000 --> 46:40.000]  Hi, Randy.
[46:40.000 --> 46:41.000]  Hello.
[46:41.000 --> 46:46.000]  I'm a small business owner, and I have a commercial business loan.
[46:46.000 --> 46:52.000]  And I had sent my lender quite a few qualified written requests.
[46:52.000 --> 47:02.000]  And my last one that I sent him was under, I put it under the federal statute of 12 USC 2605.
[47:02.000 --> 47:10.000]  And I also wanted to say that I do have a lawsuit in Superior Court with the lender.
[47:10.000 --> 47:26.000]  And they have come back with their stating that that federal statute is a federal regulated
[47:26.000 --> 47:30.000]  mortgage loan and is only for residential property.
[47:30.000 --> 47:33.000]  They're right about that.
[47:33.000 --> 47:34.000]  Pardon me?
[47:34.000 --> 47:36.000]  They're right about that.
[47:36.000 --> 47:45.000]  A qualified written request is specifically a consumer protection.
[47:45.000 --> 47:57.000]  And it only applies to a consumer note where you would purchase a property for the purpose of consuming it by leaving inside it.
[47:57.000 --> 48:05.000]  However, is that the only cause of action that's in your suit?
[48:05.000 --> 48:15.000]  No, I also have another cause of action, which was for 29, I think, what is it, 29?
[48:15.000 --> 48:16.000]  Okay.
[48:16.000 --> 48:21.000]  What I'm hearing, I'm not going to go directly to the issues.
[48:21.000 --> 48:25.000]  I'm going to go to the structure of what I'm hearing here.
[48:25.000 --> 48:31.000]  I'm hearing you're making claims against the lender under statute.
[48:31.000 --> 48:33.000]  Right.
[48:33.000 --> 48:38.000]  Generally, that's not a good idea in a civil action.
[48:38.000 --> 49:00.000]  In a civil action, it's always much better if you can make claims against the lender under a contractual violation first and then a tort second, a cause of action third.
[49:00.000 --> 49:01.000]  Okay.
[49:01.000 --> 49:03.000]  Does this make sense to you?
[49:03.000 --> 49:05.000]  Somewhat.
[49:05.000 --> 49:06.000]  Okay.
[49:06.000 --> 49:07.000]  I will explain.
[49:07.000 --> 49:27.000]  For those who aren't familiar with how the legal process works, if you make an allegation under a statute, for the most part, our legislators have passed these statutes that are supposedly consumer protection statutes.
[49:27.000 --> 49:31.000]  They are no such thing. They're garbage.
[49:31.000 --> 49:34.000]  They're smoke and mirrors.
[49:34.000 --> 49:54.000]  From looking at the consumer protection laws and the results that they have, all they do is wind up creating a condition where the closing agent can sit you down and do something in psychology and hypnosis that we would call a reality stack.
[49:54.000 --> 50:04.000]  Where if I was trying to talk you into a trance, I would give you a lot of disparate pieces of information.
[50:04.000 --> 50:09.000]  I'd tell you about my sister, and I just did a vocal analog mark.
[50:09.000 --> 50:12.000]  I've got a sister, and I stop.
[50:12.000 --> 50:15.000]  So mentally, you point that out like it's important.
[50:15.000 --> 50:17.000]  She's older than me.
[50:17.000 --> 50:19.000]  And I point with my finger when I say that.
[50:19.000 --> 50:20.000]  I point up there.
[50:20.000 --> 50:21.000]  She's older than me.
[50:21.000 --> 50:22.000]  That's an analog mark.
[50:22.000 --> 50:24.000]  And you think, OK, he's got a sister.
[50:24.000 --> 50:25.000]  He's older than me.
[50:25.000 --> 50:27.000]  These are important things for me to hold.
[50:27.000 --> 50:30.000]  She lives in Chicago, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
[50:30.000 --> 50:33.000]  And I go through all these different stuff, and they don't mean squat.
[50:33.000 --> 50:43.000]  But I get your mind busy chasing all this junk, because I know that the mind can only hold five plus or minus two pieces of information at one time.
[50:43.000 --> 50:51.000]  I get you chasing all the trash, so when I throw the real deal at you, you're so stuffed up with garbage that you miss it.
[50:51.000 --> 50:53.000]  You sit down at closing.
[50:53.000 --> 50:57.000]  They put one document in front of you after another, after another, after another.
[50:57.000 --> 51:05.000]  They all go to these consumer protection law notices, and they are supposed to read this convoluted language.
[51:05.000 --> 51:14.000]  It doesn't mean anything to start with, so that when they put the no truth in lending statement and HUD 1 settlement statement in front of you,
[51:14.000 --> 51:21.000]  by then you're about two-thirds brain dead, and you don't pick up the trash that they do to you.
[51:21.000 --> 51:29.000]  So I'm a little burned on consumer protection laws, and they're more difficult to adjudicate.
[51:29.000 --> 51:36.000]  You want to give that judge something that's really easy for him to wrap his head around.
[51:36.000 --> 51:46.000]  And when he renders a ruling, it's not a ruling that affects everybody in the United States.
[51:46.000 --> 51:55.000]  A ruling on real estate settlement procedures act, truth in lending act, could have the effect of affecting everybody in the United States.
[51:55.000 --> 51:58.000]  Judges hate to do that.
[51:58.000 --> 52:06.000]  They want to give you a simple ruling, so the first thing you want to do is drag out that contract.
[52:06.000 --> 52:14.000]  Your Honor, I got this security instrument here that the lender is trying to invoke.
[52:14.000 --> 52:18.000]  In this security instrument, I granted the lender a privilege.
[52:18.000 --> 52:24.000]  I granted him the privilege of making a claim against my property.
[52:24.000 --> 52:26.000]  That's what a mortgage is.
[52:26.000 --> 52:33.000]  Normally, the lender would have to sue you personally, get a judgment against you,
[52:33.000 --> 52:40.000]  and then go back to the court and get authorization to apply that judgment to your property.
[52:40.000 --> 52:44.000]  Then he could liquidate your property to satisfy the judgment.
[52:44.000 --> 52:47.000]  Well, he said when he gave you the loan, that's not good enough.
[52:47.000 --> 52:50.000]  I want a confessed claim against your property.
[52:50.000 --> 52:57.000]  So you gave him the mortgage, you gave him a claim so he can sue your property effectively instead of suing you.
[52:57.000 --> 53:02.000]  Well, that's a privilege you granted in a contract.
[53:02.000 --> 53:10.000]  When you drag out that contract, you say, Your Honor, this lender is accusing me of breaching a covenant of this contract,
[53:10.000 --> 53:14.000]  authorizing him to exercise the privilege I granted him in that contract.
[53:14.000 --> 53:22.000]  However, when I granted him that privilege, I set certain conditions.
[53:22.000 --> 53:28.000]  And in Covenant 15, one of the conditions was the severability clause,
[53:28.000 --> 53:31.000]  and it required that both parties abide by all law.
[53:31.000 --> 53:37.000]  So look over here at these consumer protection laws that he violated.
[53:37.000 --> 53:43.000]  If you claim under the consumer protection law, and it's been over three years,
[53:43.000 --> 53:52.000]  they're going to say you can't make that claim because the remedy only applies for three years.
[53:52.000 --> 54:00.000]  So we say he violated this consumer protection law here 12 years ago.
[54:00.000 --> 54:09.000]  But we're not claiming the remedy that the legislature granted that only has a three-year statute of limitations.
[54:09.000 --> 54:14.000]  He breached Covenant 15 of the contract.
[54:14.000 --> 54:21.000]  And because he breached Covenant 15 of the contract, he cannot exercise the privilege.
[54:21.000 --> 54:30.000]  Now, the judge can look at the four corners of the document and read what the covenant says in terms of a restriction,
[54:30.000 --> 54:34.000]  look out in the real world and look at the facts you brought him and see if, in fact,
[54:34.000 --> 54:40.000]  there is evidence to believe he did breach that covenant and say, yes, you're right.
[54:40.000 --> 54:47.000]  And it only affects this document, this plaintiff, this defendant.
[54:47.000 --> 54:53.000]  It does not change the world, the legal world, as he knows it.
[54:53.000 --> 54:56.000]  That is a whole lot easier to get the judge to do.
[54:56.000 --> 55:04.000]  And then you can claim that they charged all these false fees at closing.
[55:04.000 --> 55:07.000]  They put all these fees on the 101 settlement statement.
[55:07.000 --> 55:10.000]  They didn't give me anything to show that the fees are valid.
[55:10.000 --> 55:18.000]  So I think they were all bogus and claimed that that was fraud.
[55:18.000 --> 55:27.000]  And that by causing you to have to pay more money, that constitutes conversion of your real property,
[55:27.000 --> 55:29.000]  your United States dollars.
[55:29.000 --> 55:30.000]  That's theft.
[55:30.000 --> 55:32.000]  That's a tort.
[55:32.000 --> 55:35.000]  So you could claim in tort.
[55:35.000 --> 55:43.000]  You could also claim that when I negotiated to secure this note, the lender gave me disclosure.
[55:43.000 --> 55:47.000]  He disclosed that he was a lender.
[55:47.000 --> 55:56.000]  But he didn't disclose that he was, in this case, not actually funding the transaction.
[55:56.000 --> 56:02.000]  He actually got this money from one of these Mexican or Colombian drug cartels
[56:02.000 --> 56:07.000]  and was using this funding operation as a money laundering scheme for these drug sellers.
[56:07.000 --> 56:13.000]  Well, if I had known that, there's no way I'd ever enter into this contract.
[56:13.000 --> 56:18.000]  That's a cause of action for fraud for non-disclosure.
[56:18.000 --> 56:21.000]  Okay, Sharon, does that make sense?
[56:21.000 --> 56:23.000]  Yes, yes, it does.
[56:23.000 --> 56:33.000]  Go back and look at what has occurred and see if you can amend your pleading
[56:33.000 --> 56:38.000]  and make claims of violations first of the contract.
[56:38.000 --> 56:43.000]  Did they bifurcate the note?
[56:43.000 --> 56:45.000]  Did they securitize the note?
[56:45.000 --> 56:49.000]  Did they sell off the right to be paid?
[56:49.000 --> 56:58.000]  If they sold the right to be paid, then if you don't pay, they can't be harmed.
[56:58.000 --> 57:05.000]  And if they can't be harmed, they can't bring a real controversy to the court.
[57:05.000 --> 57:12.000]  Instead of claiming bifurcation, claim subject matter jurisdiction.
[57:12.000 --> 57:17.000]  You know, the Supreme Court said, you can't come to us just because you want us to change law.
[57:17.000 --> 57:24.000]  You have to bring us a controversy and show how you have been harmed by this bad law.
[57:24.000 --> 57:28.000]  The Military Commissions Act is one of those problems.
[57:28.000 --> 57:32.000]  It allows the government in a time of war to dissolve the legislature.
[57:32.000 --> 57:35.000]  That's a horrendous thing to do.
[57:35.000 --> 57:39.000]  But we can't complain about it because we hadn't done it yet.
[57:39.000 --> 57:45.000]  But once they do it, it's too late to complain about it because we don't have one anymore.
[57:45.000 --> 57:46.000]  But this is the problem.
[57:46.000 --> 57:50.000]  In order for them to come before the court, they have to be able to claim a controversy.
[57:50.000 --> 57:56.000]  And if they sold the right to the income stream, they can't claim a controversy.
[57:56.000 --> 57:57.000]  This could get complex.
[57:57.000 --> 58:02.000]  There are a lot of things to look at.
[58:02.000 --> 58:03.000]  And keep looking at the show.
[58:03.000 --> 58:11.000]  First thing to do is get every document filed with the county recorder.
[58:11.000 --> 58:13.000]  Get those documents and look at them.
[58:13.000 --> 58:16.000]  See whose names are on them.
[58:16.000 --> 58:23.000]  See if every assignment is in a direct line.
[58:23.000 --> 58:29.000]  If there's a name on there that's not your lender that did an assignment, who is he?
[58:29.000 --> 58:31.000]  There's a lot of issues we can bring up.
[58:31.000 --> 58:32.000]  I'm trying to go too fast.
[58:32.000 --> 58:36.000]  I know I'm feeding you with the fire holes, but there's a lot of things you can do.
[58:36.000 --> 58:37.000]  Hang on.
[58:37.000 --> 58:39.000]  We will pick this up on the other side.
[58:39.000 --> 58:44.000]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio, our call-in number,
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[01:03:53.000 --> 01:04:03.000]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  We're talking to Sharon in California.
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:10.000]  And Sharon, I'm sorry if I kind of flooded you with information there,
[01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:16.000]  but there was a very specific point I'm trying to get to.
[01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:22.000]  And I hope that everybody gets this point if they come away with nothing else.
[01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:31.000]  When you have a legal issue and we tend to think, what can I do?
[01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.000]  That's really the wrong question.
[01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:40.000]  The right question is, from all of the many, many, many possibilities,
[01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:47.000]  which of those possibilities would likely be the most effective?
[01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:57.000]  We tend to have people that are in situations where they don't have knowledge as to their options
[01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:03.000]  and they tend to not be able to see that they have options.
[01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  And the one thing that we want to transmit more than any other is the realization
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:14.000]  that there are always lots of options, some better than others, but always options.
[01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.000]  Okay, do you have a specific question?
[01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.000]  I kind of rolled over you on that last segment.
[01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.000]  No, that was pretty much what I wanted to know,
[01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:29.000]  whether that is what they were saying as for the residential.
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:35.000]  Because it seems like most of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act also is for residential,
[01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  so there's not much that I see for the commercial.
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.000]  Not a problem, not a problem.
[01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.000]  Since yours is commercial, you just go to the Uniform Commercial Code,
[01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:52.000]  which in California has been adopted almost in total.
[01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:58.000]  The Uniform Commercial Code, every state essentially has adopted and they make minor changes.
[01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:09.000]  I think the numbering for the Uniform Commercial Code in California Code is the same as in the federal.
[01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:19.000]  In Texas, they've adopted it and they call it the Texas Business and Commerce Code.
[01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:22.000]  But the code numbers are the same.
[01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:27.000]  So if you're commercial, you just shift to the Uniform Commercial Code.
[01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  They make your arguments under that.
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:36.000]  Under the Uniform Commercial Code, if you are served with a presentment,
[01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:44.000]  and under the Uniform Commercial Code, a presentment is a demand for payment in United States dollars.
[01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:51.000]  If you are served with a presentment from a debtor,
[01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:58.000]  I'm sorry, from a creditor,
[01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:06.000]  then you can demand production of the original debt instrument,
[01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  what Joe Esquivel calls the tangible interest instrument, the one you actually signed.
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:26.000]  Anything other than that is merely prima facie evidence that the real deal actually exists.
[01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  That alleged copy may or may not be an accurate copy, you don't know that.
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  But under the Uniform Commercial Code, you can ask them to produce the original instrument.
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:43.000]  It's like if you're a bank and I come to you, I've got a check I want you to cash,
[01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:47.000]  but I'm afraid to walk around with the real deal, so I bring you a photocopy.
[01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:49.000]  And I give you a photocopy of the check.
[01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:52.000]  You're going to look at it and you say, well, fine, wonderful.
[01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:55.000]  Here's a photocopy of the money.
[01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:59.000]  You bring me the real deal, I'll give you the real deal.
[01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  So this actually creates the same situation as a demand that they validate the debt
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.000]  that you'll find in the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act,
[01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  except you've got the same remedy in the Uniform Commercial Code.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  Before all of these consumer protection laws,
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:31.000]  the Uniform Commercial Code has always been there and you will find all the protections you need in it.
[01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.000]  Does that sound like it'll work for you?
[01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.000]  Yeah, well, I hope it's not too late because they've gone for,
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:40.000]  actually they went for summary judgment and they've...
[01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  Don't worry about it, don't worry about it.
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:49.000]  Here's the deal, keep in mind, in the trial court,
[01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:57.000]  you should always expect the court to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:58.000]  Yeah.
[01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  Your lawyer, the other side, should expect the same thing.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000]  It's a matter of professionalism.
[01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:11.000]  You plan for the court to rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  Keep in mind, the only purpose of the trial court is to set the record for appeal.
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  The appellate court's where the action is.
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:32.000]  The trial court is their duty to develop the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence,
[01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.000]  then apply the law as it comes to them to the facts in the case.
[01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  The appellate court, it's their duty to maintain the integrity of the corpus juris of the body of law
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:54.000]  while interpreting the intent of the legislature in the application of law.
[01:09:54.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  A law cannot address every potential permutation of facts and circumstances.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:08.000]  So the legislature passes the best law they can,
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  then they leave it to the courts to apply the law in the spirit in which the legislature passed it
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:25.000]  in order to secure the remedy the law intended to create.
[01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  That's how it's supposed to work.
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:37.000]  How it really works is you'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  To think so is naive.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:44.000]  You'll win your case if you have the politics on your side.
[01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:50.000]  So if you don't have a whole lot of money or a whole lot of political clout,
[01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:55.000]  don't expect the local judge to rule in your favor.
[01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:03.000]  But even then it doesn't matter because it is the court of appeals that will make a true determination.
[01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.000]  They have a different agenda.
[01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:12.000]  If they pass bad law, then everybody gets to use that bad law
[01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:19.000]  and they wind up destabilizing the corpus juris, the body of law.
[01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:23.000]  And they create horrible problems that they have to deal with.
[01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:27.000]  You hear about the Supreme Court overturning their decisions all the time
[01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:34.000]  where they rendered this decision and it led to outcomes they had not anticipated
[01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:38.000]  that were not within the spirit of the intent of the legislature.
[01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:45.000]  So point all of that is set to record for appeal.
[01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:54.000]  So make all your claims in the trial court and try the case in the court of appeals.
[01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.000]  Does that make sense, Sharon?
[01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.000]  Yes, yes.
[01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.000]  So don't worry about what's in there.
[01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  They've got a motion where they say you alleged the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act,
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:14.000]  Rear State Tenant Procedures Act, or any of the consumer protection laws.
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  You might go back and say, did you sue or did they sue?
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000]  I sued.
[01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:22.000]  Okay.
[01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:27.000]  Then you might say defendants' arguments are well taken
[01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:32.000]  and move the court to allow you to amend the pleading.
[01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:36.000]  They will almost always do that.
[01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.000]  And if they don't, the court of appeals will.
[01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:45.000]  So then go back, you give them the other side opportunity to tell you
[01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.000]  what kind of arguments they're going to bring.
[01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:56.000]  Now you can come back and recraft your pleading to get around their arguments.
[01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:02.000]  And summary judgment is the courts are reluctant to give summary judgment
[01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  because they want to give a person opportunity to adjudicate the case.
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:18.000]  Well, actually, they already gave them summary judgment.
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:20.000]  Yeah, they awarded them summary judgment.
[01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:23.000]  They haven't signed the final...
[01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:24.000]  Oh, okay, okay.
[01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.000]  So you've already had the hearing and they granted summary judgment.
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:28.000]  Yeah.
[01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:29.000]  No problem.
[01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:33.000]  Come back and file a motion for reconsideration.
[01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:35.000]  Right.
[01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:45.000]  And in the alternative, a request for permission to file an amended pleading.
[01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:52.000]  You generally get one amended pleading as a matter of law.
[01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  Now sometimes if you have a really corrupt judge like we have here in Fort Worth,
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:00.000]  Judge McBride is a real stinker.
[01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.000]  He will ignore all law.
[01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:10.000]  If you're a pro se litigant, he will rule against you out of hand at every turn.
[01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:15.000]  He will dismiss your case with prejudice, deny all your claims,
[01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:18.000]  pay no attention to anything.
[01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:21.000]  Let me file a notice of appeal.
[01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:26.000]  And if he dismisses all of your claims with prejudice, we don't care.
[01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  We'll come up with some more and come back and sue him again.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:31.000]  Okay.
[01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  There's no sudden death here.
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:39.000]  If you didn't do the first and right and you didn't make the right claims,
[01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:42.000]  then you didn't get the right claims ruled against.
[01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  You still got them.
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:53.000]  So here the first thing you do is you move for reconsideration.
[01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:02.000]  And if the only claims you have are claims under the consumer protection laws,
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:08.000]  then come back and petition the court for permission to file an amended pleading.
[01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:12.000]  But you need to have a copy of the pleading with the motion.
[01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.000]  And here's the amended pleading I'd like to file.
[01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:19.000]  And almost always the court will accept it.
[01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:20.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.000]  I just missed that one.
[01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  The court is trying to keep you from having a way to get their decision turned over
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.000]  because they don't like to get their decisions overruled.
[01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.000]  It makes them look bad.
[01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:40.000]  Does that pretty well answer your questions?
[01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.000]  Do you have something more specific?
[01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  Yes.
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:45.000]  Okay.
[01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:50.000]  What is your question?
[01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:51.000]  Okay, yes, yes.
[01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:54.000]  Yes, that answered your question or yes, you have another question?
[01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:56.000]  Oh, yes, that answered my question.
[01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:57.000]  Thank you.
[01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.000]  I was a little ambiguous there.
[01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:01.000]  I'm sorry.
[01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:02.000]  Okay.
[01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:03.000]  Thank you very much, Sharon.
[01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:05.000]  Oh, thank you, Randy.
[01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:06.000]  Okay.
[01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.000]  We're going to Matt in Texas.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.000]  Quickly, Matt.
[01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:11.000]  We've only got about 50 seconds.
[01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:15.000]  Okay, well, you're not going to be able to answer it in 50 seconds,
[01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:18.000]  but I've got a friend who just got sued,
[01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:22.000]  and I've got a question about how he's actually going about doing this
[01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:26.000]  because the issue and controversy was...
[01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:27.000]  Okay, hold on.
[01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  How long ago did he get served with the notice?
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  She was served with notice today.
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.000]  Well, she was sued today.
[01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  Oh, okay, okay.
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  Okay, hang on.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.000]  We're about to go to break.
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:41.000]  I think it's finally when you're sued.
[01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:46.000]  If it's not a petition for a writ of possession,
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  then a civil action,
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:52.000]  you'll have generally 21 days in which to answer.
[01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.000]  So we'll pick this up on the other side.
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[01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:28.000]  Well
[01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:35.000]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.000]  I was blindsided but now I can see your plans
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.000]  You put the fear in my pocket
[01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.000]  Took the money from my hands
[01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:52.000]  ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  ain't gonna fool me
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:03.000]  ain't gonna fool me
[01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:16.000]  ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker punch
[01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:21.000]  I get it now but then I must have been out of luck
[01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:26.000]  back then you had room to move but now you're feeling the crush
[01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.000]  ain't gonna get me back
[01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:00.200]  and and we can't understand what you're saying it's like warbly it sounds like
[01:21:00.200 --> 01:21:05.400]  you're like a million miles away and underwater yeah we really can't we
[01:21:05.400 --> 01:21:09.480]  can't have speaker phones on the air I mean folks I understand that it can
[01:21:09.480 --> 01:21:13.840]  become a pain to sit there on hold for 20 30 minutes or however long it takes
[01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:17.560]  for us to get to your call if you want to listen to the show on your speaker
[01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:21.680]  phone while you're on hold waiting to go on the air that's fine but we can't have
[01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:28.640]  speaker phones on the air okay so this is better can you hear me okay yes thank
[01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:33.640]  you okay all right Matt Matt I just thought you had your head stuck in the
[01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:41.200]  toilet I wasn't going to say anything okay go ahead okay what was the nature
[01:21:41.200 --> 01:21:49.680]  of the suit my friend was sued it's involving a divorce decree disagreement
[01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:59.360]  okay and the issue is that my friend is actually in violation of the divorce
[01:21:59.360 --> 01:22:07.040]  decree based off of not having purchased health insurance now part of the reason
[01:22:07.040 --> 01:22:11.640]  why she didn't purchase health insurance is related to the fact that her ex is
[01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:17.400]  you know was required to pay half he couldn't pay half and so what he's done
[01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:24.040]  is he's done an underhanded attack by suing her and asking for all these
[01:22:24.040 --> 01:22:28.880]  changes within the divorce decree because she hasn't paid for the health
[01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:35.760]  insurance now he never wanted did he pay his half of the health insurance no he
[01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:41.680]  hasn't paid anything he hasn't paid anything and okay so she was unable to
[01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:47.000]  to pay for the health insurance because she didn't have enough because he didn't
[01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:56.000]  pay his part this goes to the clean hands doctrine okay no one may be allowed
[01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:04.120]  to profit from his own misdeeds okay all right that's a clean hands doctrine
[01:23:04.120 --> 01:23:09.400]  what the other issue that I'm wondering about is that it's my understanding that
[01:23:09.400 --> 01:23:17.440]  it's frowned upon by by the court for civil matters when an issue isn't tried
[01:23:17.440 --> 01:23:22.160]  to be addressed outside of the court like controversy then tried to be
[01:23:22.160 --> 01:23:25.920]  addressed outside of the court so rather than no no no wait a minute that's
[01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:32.880]  frowned on by jackass lawyers what's that because okay yeah yeah I don't
[01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:42.120]  understand how it works when you have a legal issue in the court you have
[01:23:42.120 --> 01:23:49.280]  yourself here it's like a it's like a three-sided chessboard you have
[01:23:49.280 --> 01:23:56.120]  yourself as one player you have your lawyer as another player and you have
[01:23:56.120 --> 01:24:02.800]  the opponent's lawyer as the third player the opponent is not a player the
[01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:10.000]  opponent's lawyer is a player now the opponent has his lawyer and your lawyer
[01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:16.440]  as players real important for you to understand this three-sided chess is all
[01:24:16.440 --> 01:24:26.640]  about alliances make no mistake about it your lawyer is playing your lawyer's
[01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:37.640]  hand he is not your buddy he is in business to make money and your lawyer
[01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:47.960]  and the other lawyer have a professional association and they will work together
[01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:55.000]  if not directly indirectly both lawyers who look at their client and try to
[01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:03.760]  determine how much income or how much of the clients estate they can extract and
[01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:09.320]  once the lawyers have extracted as much money from you as they can then they'll
[01:25:09.320 --> 01:25:15.640]  both try to put together a deal that the two of you the two sides can accept and
[01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:21.760]  not be mad enough with the lawyers to sue them they don't care if you mad at
[01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:27.040]  them just know so you're not mad enough to sue right well I get that I
[01:25:27.040 --> 01:25:34.760]  understand how you know that's okay so first thing to do is try to break the
[01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:42.840]  association between your lawyer and his lawyer so best way to do that's bar
[01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:47.600]  grieve his lawyer filing a pretty frivolous pleading for fomenting
[01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:55.160]  litigation accuse the other lawyer of making frivolous arguments taking a case
[01:25:55.160 --> 01:26:02.640]  where his client engineered a situation whereby not paying his portion of the
[01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:08.320]  insurance he made it impossible for your friend to be able to get insurance
[01:26:08.320 --> 01:26:12.600]  because she would have to pay the full amount and she wasn't able to pay the
[01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:18.400]  full amount so he created a situation where she could not get insurance and
[01:26:18.400 --> 01:26:25.280]  then use this lawyer to sue her for the situation that he created and bar grieve
[01:26:25.280 --> 01:26:29.480]  the lawyer when you bar grieve the lawyer the lawyer is going to get
[01:26:29.480 --> 01:26:34.720]  apoplexy because his malpractice insurance is going to double he's going
[01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:41.280]  to go back to the hubby and say your cost just went up dramatically Bubba and
[01:26:41.280 --> 01:26:48.320]  when your lawyer finds out that you bar grieve the lawyer on the other side
[01:26:48.320 --> 01:26:52.800]  your lawyers likely to come to you and say you shouldn't do that and you tell
[01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:59.480]  your lawyer you can't talk about that I'm forbidden to talk about that now
[01:26:59.480 --> 01:27:03.480]  your lawyers put in a position to where he has plausible deniability he go back
[01:27:03.480 --> 01:27:07.720]  his other lawyer say look my client won't even talk to me about that I can't
[01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:11.880]  do anything about that now the lawyers the other lawyers will be mad at your
[01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:16.920]  lawyer feel like your lawyer put you up to it you're gonna shake up that
[01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:23.000]  alliance between the two lawyers because now it's unbalanced you've got a third
[01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:31.680]  player over here who's cheating this is family law and family law is probably
[01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:41.960]  worldwide the most corrupt so I suggest that she she moved to strike the
[01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:49.120]  pleading as frivolous accused the guy on the other side of creating this
[01:27:49.120 --> 01:27:57.520]  condition and then using the condition to file this action in a frivolous
[01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:07.400]  attempt to profit from his own misdeeds and if I cut you off on going into all
[01:28:07.400 --> 01:28:15.000]  of the details we go here a lot and we're here the same details this is a
[01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:24.400]  standard thing in that argument pardon me as a part of that motion site the
[01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:30.640]  clean hands doctrine as a part of the reason why that is yeah just just go on
[01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:36.320]  the internet and look up clean hands doctrine okay all right yeah that's what
[01:28:36.320 --> 01:28:41.400]  I gave you that's enough to find it you know once you got the idea you do a
[01:28:41.400 --> 01:28:46.880]  search for clean hands doctrine you get all kind of stuff and on that and just
[01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:52.040]  throw a little of that law in there and make sure you get your pleading in by
[01:28:52.040 --> 01:29:01.520]  the Monday after the 20th day from the date you received service okay well
[01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:07.800]  she's actually the suit says that she's supposed to appear in court by the 24th
[01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:12.680]  which is I mean that seems ridiculous she just got the she just got served
[01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:19.080]  today okay she filed an objection to the appearance for lack of notice and bar
[01:29:19.080 --> 01:29:24.440]  grieves the lawyer for not giving her sufficient notice that'll make her nuts
[01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:28.280]  oh and if she doesn't have counsel she's still in the three-sided chessboard
[01:29:28.280 --> 01:29:36.800]  because now you got the judge his lawyer you so I agree with the other lawyer
[01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:41.360]  stinging good hang on we're about to go to break this is Randy Kelton Debra
[01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:47.360]  Stevens rule of law radio I call it number five one two six four six in 1984
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[01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:39.600]  okay we are back to Andy Kelton Debra Stevens rule of law radio and Matt I
[01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:43.560]  really need to move ahead we've got three more callers in two segments and
[01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:49.800]  I'm still having a lot of trouble with quality on your line so we move ahead if
[01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:54.040]  you have more questions call us into bar night Debra did have a comment she
[01:33:54.040 --> 01:33:59.840]  wanted to make before I go to Ken in New York yes and I'll be very fast okay and
[01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:04.280]  this is about when people call in okay we're getting a lot of new listeners
[01:34:04.280 --> 01:34:08.920]  and I'm really appreciative of that but I think a lot of our new listeners are
[01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:12.920]  not aware that this is a radio show okay a lot of people are under impression
[01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:16.080]  that this is a conference call and they think they're calling into a conference
[01:34:16.080 --> 01:34:20.240]  call and and you're not calling a conference call this is a radio show and
[01:34:20.240 --> 01:34:24.960]  so we have to have some decent quality of audio going out on the air and we can
[01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:30.640]  just back to briefly to the speakerphone issue the the other reason is not just
[01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:34.440]  because the microphone is too far away from your mouth but it also picks up
[01:34:34.440 --> 01:34:38.600]  every single noise and the whole rest of the house alright and dogs barking kids
[01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:42.680]  people talking the TV everything so really people we cannot have speaker
[01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:47.240]  phones on the air at all and if you have to call in on Skype because of the long
[01:34:47.240 --> 01:34:54.560]  distance issue then please use a headset okay do not just use the onboard mic
[01:34:54.560 --> 01:35:00.640]  on your monitor that's like three feet away four feet away from your face okay
[01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:04.080]  that's not going to work in the same thing even if you pull the monitor all
[01:35:04.080 --> 01:35:10.040]  the way up to your mouth it still behaves like a speaker phone in the type
[01:35:10.040 --> 01:35:15.120]  of microphone that it is that it picks up every sound in the whole house so no
[01:35:15.120 --> 01:35:20.520]  onboard mics of computers of monitors or laptops and no speaker phones please
[01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:24.720]  okay we go through this a lot with people and the call screeners give people
[01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:28.680]  instructions and they do not obey the instructions so please have a little
[01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:32.920]  respect for us and the rest of the listeners so that we can get the message
[01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:37.360]  out in a reasonable fashion alright that's all I have to say Randy okay and
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[01:36:26.160 --> 01:36:30.720]  let's go on to the calls Randy okay now we're going to go to Ken in New York
[01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:36.360]  hello Ken what do you have for us today how's my phone am I okay
[01:36:36.360 --> 01:36:45.800]  wait is your head in the toilet okay you're good you're fine go ahead I'm on
[01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:53.520]  a 48 megahertz phone five years ago I'm sure you're fine go ahead I know thank
[01:36:53.520 --> 01:37:02.760]  you I like to talk about a hospital lawsuit that I have I have been in a
[01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:08.520]  position where I've been out of work for a while and I had some a stay in the
[01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:13.920]  hospital State Hospital in New York and I had a rather large bill for two weeks
[01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:20.720]  day it actually came out to $92,000 from foot surgery and I think I've heard you
[01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:24.960]  talk in the past where you try to negotiate with people on the merits and
[01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:33.240]  you don't get anywhere is that the case that's that's almost always the case
[01:37:33.240 --> 01:37:38.880]  with hospital bills a lot of times you can negotiate that down considerably
[01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:45.560]  well but just given warning okay go ahead I'm sorry but but if if you can't
[01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:52.040]  negotiate with them if they won't negotiate then I would suggest look at
[01:37:52.040 --> 01:37:58.960]  what you believe were they you believe they've overcharged you and send them a
[01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:06.240]  letter in terms of a tort letter a notice of tort the courts say they don't
[01:38:06.240 --> 01:38:12.040]  want you to use the court as your remedy of first resort but rather as your
[01:38:12.040 --> 01:38:20.040]  remedy of last resort so they want you to exercise all of your administrative
[01:38:20.040 --> 01:38:26.240]  remedies before you come to the court and ask the court to adjudicate the
[01:38:26.240 --> 01:38:34.640]  differences and the remedies that they require is a notice of tort you notice
[01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:39.840]  the other side that you feel the other side has harmed you or is attempting to
[01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:49.200]  harm you and ask them to make you whole in this case you accuse them of usury or
[01:38:49.200 --> 01:38:58.880]  not usury of price gouging and charging you exorbitant amounts and in that they
[01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:05.400]  refuse to negotiate in good faith you if if they do not make you whole within an
[01:39:05.400 --> 01:39:10.440]  X amount of time and you're prepared to file suit if that doesn't get their
[01:39:10.440 --> 01:39:20.560]  attention so it's not as hard as it appears I know it seems really daunting
[01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:26.520]  if you go talk to a lawyer they act like they know everything but it's not true
[01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:32.240]  that's a facade well I had talked to a couple lawyers about it just to get a
[01:39:32.240 --> 01:39:36.120]  couple free consults and they said well get out of money don't you want to just
[01:39:36.120 --> 01:39:41.400]  work it out and pay it and I said well I did try it's true I didn't do it in
[01:39:41.400 --> 01:39:45.920]  letters but I did it in emails and I'd contact my state senator and my state
[01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:50.600]  senator try to intervene for me I mean I'll just give you one example I have an
[01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:55.600]  itemized bill forty one hundred dollars a day for half a room that's just a
[01:39:55.600 --> 01:40:03.280]  hospital room charge okay you can claim is to absorb it and they'll claim that
[01:40:03.280 --> 01:40:11.520]  it's not they you know they have people that are unable to pay and those people
[01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:16.040]  who they think can pay they charge extra to make up for the ones that don't pay
[01:40:16.040 --> 01:40:19.200]  and that's understandable they're a business or in business to make money
[01:40:19.200 --> 01:40:25.200]  but there are federal programs that they can engage now they don't use up those
[01:40:25.200 --> 01:40:28.560]  federal programs because the federal programs don't pay as much as they hope
[01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:35.880]  they can extract from you but in the end it's all about the money if you throw a
[01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:42.560]  tort letter at them and it says you know this chumps gonna sue us and how much is
[01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:48.120]  it gonna cost us in attorney fees to fight this guy as opposed to how much
[01:40:48.120 --> 01:40:53.840]  money do we think we can get out of him they're gonna make a financial decision
[01:40:53.840 --> 01:41:00.960]  so give them the best financial decision to make that you can well what it
[01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:07.520]  happened is it went on and on and I didn't feel right about doing that I had
[01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:12.720]  they do have the financial coverage and it knocked most of it down to the point
[01:41:12.720 --> 01:41:17.920]  where it was under ten thousand dollars and it really wasn't worth on my part
[01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:22.880]  they finally came against me rather to get a lawyer and they sent a verified
[01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:29.960]  complaint and what I'd like to talk about there is that I see 10 accusations
[01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:34.720]  and then I see on the end where okay wait a minute wait a minute we've got
[01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:41.360]  just a one more segment left in two callers I don't have time to examine a
[01:41:41.360 --> 01:41:48.120]  whole lawsuit on the air especially not tonight can you call in tomorrow night
[01:41:48.120 --> 01:41:55.960]  when we've got a four-hour show sure that'll work a lot better and have the
[01:41:55.960 --> 01:42:00.760]  causes of action kind of lined out so you can just walk through the causes of
[01:42:00.760 --> 01:42:06.560]  action and then we can move a little more quickly yeah they don't seem to
[01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:09.920]  have tell me where they're getting it from and that was basically the end of
[01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:14.400]  it but I could okay we'll call in tomorrow night we'll have more time to
[01:42:14.400 --> 01:42:21.120]  go through all of that we've got two more callers tonight and we've got
[01:42:21.120 --> 01:42:25.280]  Francis from Colorado she's she's the pro se from hell you might learn a whole
[01:42:25.280 --> 01:42:29.920]  lot from listening to her she's always got really good information and she'll
[01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:34.800]  take a while so call in tomorrow night and we'll give you a whole lot more time
[01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:39.520]  no problem good night thank you thank you Ken okay now we're going to go to
[01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:47.880]  miss Francis in Colorado okay miss Francis who you beating up now oh well
[01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:54.040]  not anybody too bad I filed six bar grievances in a no I did up six bar
[01:42:54.040 --> 01:43:01.760]  grievances in a judicial complaint last night though so only six I know well I
[01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:05.320]  have another list I have a list of another 14 but I haven't got to that
[01:43:05.320 --> 01:43:14.640]  yet he had a save up for the postage so here's my my quick question and we can
[01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:20.520]  continue it tomorrow night but so this is the it's a family court issue with
[01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:26.080]  the mother-in-law and and the brother and the girlfriend hired an attorney in
[01:43:26.080 --> 01:43:31.840]  2012 and paid them and then that okay okay we got about 30 seconds to break
[01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:38.720]  this is where the mother-in-law was getting feeble and the brother and
[01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:43.960]  sister-in-law took advantage of the mother-in-law they're trying to do the
[01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:47.200]  best they can for the mother-in-law and we'll pick this up when we come back on
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[01:46:27.280 --> 01:46:47.480]  okay we are back Randy Kelton Debra Stevens rule of our radio and we're
[01:46:47.480 --> 01:46:53.320]  talking to Francis in Colorado and Francis has had an issue with her
[01:46:53.320 --> 01:46:59.680]  husband's mother mother-in-law which is getting senile or feeble and she's in a
[01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:06.080]  she was in an assisted care facility and the brother and the sister and the
[01:47:06.080 --> 01:47:11.000]  brother's girlfriend took her out of the facility and apparently the brother was
[01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:17.040]  not the best of characters and he kind of rated her what money she had to take
[01:47:17.040 --> 01:47:22.040]  care of her in this time and then the brother died and where are we at now
[01:47:22.040 --> 01:47:30.080]  Francis well we're at where we're in Colorado and she's in Rapid City and my
[01:47:30.080 --> 01:47:33.800]  husband is the last surviving member of the family though heard their dad his
[01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:39.280]  dad died in 92 so we need to move her to Colorado but when the brother and the
[01:47:39.280 --> 01:47:44.360]  girlfriend took her out they loped her from the home we haven't done a criminal
[01:47:44.360 --> 01:47:48.040]  complaint against that yet so they went down a different path a three-sided
[01:47:48.040 --> 01:47:52.600]  chessboard and so they got a conservator my husband had power of attorney for
[01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:56.440]  everything it but they the brother was screaming and yelling that he shouldn't
[01:47:56.440 --> 01:48:01.440]  have access to the money so they made my husband the guardian and we're trying to
[01:48:01.440 --> 01:48:09.200]  get her to Colorado and so they stopped us in less than 24 hours before her
[01:48:09.200 --> 01:48:14.200]  airplane was supposed to leave we have doctors orders and all that and so one
[01:48:14.200 --> 01:48:18.080]  of my questions is we read the orders and it didn't say that we had to go
[01:48:18.080 --> 01:48:21.720]  through the court process and so I don't know if we should hammer on vague
[01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:30.920]  orders we fought until this past Monday night when his my husband's attorney told
[01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:35.320]  us otherwise we had we had made the assumption because the brother and the
[01:48:35.320 --> 01:48:41.120]  girlfriend had paid the attorney firm back when she first went into assisted
[01:48:41.120 --> 01:48:47.360]  living since they had paid them and then that attorney's firm was assigned as the
[01:48:47.360 --> 01:48:50.720]  guardian we assumed that they had no client we challenged standing because
[01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:55.440]  the brothers dead only to find that the court also appointed that same attorney
[01:48:55.440 --> 01:49:01.040]  and we were wondering if that's a conflict of interest and then today the
[01:49:01.040 --> 01:49:05.240]  attorney for the conservator for the bank attorney called and said we could
[01:49:05.240 --> 01:49:09.400]  have the mother-in-law if they could have the money now she still has about
[01:49:09.400 --> 01:49:14.520]  two hundred thousand dollars so he you need to you need to file criminally
[01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:22.960]  against the bank the lawyer that's extortion really that's extortion now
[01:49:22.960 --> 01:49:29.440]  detect the attorney the governor of the state of Texas just told the district
[01:49:29.440 --> 01:49:37.880]  attorney for Travis County that she got a DUI told the district attorney if you
[01:49:37.880 --> 01:49:45.440]  don't step down I'm gonna veto your funding she refused to step down the
[01:49:45.440 --> 01:49:50.640]  governor vetoed the funding and a citizens group filed criminal charges
[01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:58.040]  against the governor and the district courts convened a court of inquiry to
[01:49:58.040 --> 01:50:08.440]  determine whether or not to indict the governor for extortion Wow that is
[01:50:08.440 --> 01:50:16.240]  extortion did they do it in writing and no sir they called my husband and talked
[01:50:16.240 --> 01:50:23.800]  to him today about that and said that they would did your husband record it no
[01:50:23.800 --> 01:50:29.880]  he was at work okay call your husband bring him in and lash him severely with
[01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:39.360]  your sharp tongue okay and have him call these guys back and say okay if we let
[01:50:39.360 --> 01:50:43.640]  you keep the money you'll let us have my mother back right and they say okay how
[01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:48.800]  do we work this out so that you get to keep the money so I can get my mother
[01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:57.560]  back and let them say it on a recording and then take that to the United States
[01:50:57.560 --> 01:51:02.480]  attorney because you're talking on the phone across state lines that's a
[01:51:02.480 --> 01:51:12.800]  federal issue and file criminal charges against him with a US attorney okay that
[01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:18.040]  will get his attention but you know have your husband you know act like he's
[01:51:18.040 --> 01:51:22.880]  going along with this so you get them to explain to you exactly how they're going
[01:51:22.880 --> 01:51:30.520]  to work out their extortion deal and then we see how this works out for them
[01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:35.160]  okay and yeah because you know the thing about it is I guess I said well that's
[01:51:35.160 --> 01:51:39.480]  not going to work because that pulls her out of their jurisdiction as soon as
[01:51:39.480 --> 01:51:43.200]  she's out of their jurisdiction they can't keep the money because they're
[01:51:43.200 --> 01:51:48.120]  going to want the money in their hands how about the judge see if you can get
[01:51:48.120 --> 01:51:56.960]  the lawyer to implicate the judge the lawyer has to know that I mean the judge
[01:51:56.960 --> 01:52:03.400]  will know what they're doing so he's going to be a part of it if you can
[01:52:03.400 --> 01:52:09.120]  implicate the judge and accuse the judge of trying to extort $200,000 from a
[01:52:09.120 --> 01:52:17.520]  woman but essentially kidnapping the woman she has no she's in Rapid City did
[01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:22.560]  she go to Rapid City voluntarily or did the son bring her there she's already
[01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:27.240]  she's always been there she was in an assisted living when the brother took
[01:52:27.240 --> 01:52:30.720]  her out and then she had a stroke on New Year's Day and now she's in skilled
[01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:38.440]  nursing so she's pretty much she's done a miraculous recovery but she's still
[01:52:38.440 --> 01:52:44.080]  wheelchair-bound and and so it's taken lots of money but yeah they want the
[01:52:44.080 --> 01:52:48.000]  money they cashed out another sixty three thousand dollars the bank did two
[01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:55.240]  days ago out of her investments you need to also make a request for a complete
[01:52:55.240 --> 01:53:01.160]  accounting from from all of these lawyers involved okay then a cue just
[01:53:01.160 --> 01:53:07.600]  accuse them of extortion extortion and embezzlement okay this is what lawyers
[01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:14.880]  to do they especially when it involves someone who is aging all they want to do
[01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:20.440]  is swallow their estate they could care less about the person's welfare they
[01:53:20.440 --> 01:53:25.160]  they're in it to swallow the estate so see if you can't swallow part of the
[01:53:25.160 --> 01:53:30.760]  lawyers estate accuse him of extortion and then file a malpractice suit against
[01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:35.720]  the lawyer in the federal court because it's across state lines then let's see
[01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:41.720]  how much money we can cost the lawyer okay well that that's different from
[01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:48.960]  what I thought it was going to be oh this is always amazing it's hard to make
[01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:55.800]  this paradigm shift because the lawyers know they want to keep us away from any
[01:53:55.800 --> 01:54:01.840]  consideration of criminal they don't want to touch that with a ten-foot pole
[01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:07.240]  they especially don't want you to go to bar grievances or judicial conduct
[01:54:07.240 --> 01:54:13.960]  complaints the last thing the lawyer wants is the judge mad at the lawyer
[01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:21.200]  because the lawyer caused the client to file a complaint against the judge he
[01:54:21.200 --> 01:54:27.120]  expects these lawyers to control their clients I mean we've all seen these
[01:54:27.120 --> 01:54:32.160]  movies where a someone's being prosecuted and he acts out in the court
[01:54:32.160 --> 01:54:39.240]  and then the judge says lawyer control your client they mean that they expect
[01:54:39.240 --> 01:54:43.320]  the lawyers to control their clients so you want to give the lawyer an out of
[01:54:43.320 --> 01:54:49.360]  control client you go kick that judge in his professional behind and he's going
[01:54:49.360 --> 01:54:54.440]  to come and kick this lawyer in his professional behind and you'll get
[01:54:54.440 --> 01:54:59.640]  yourself a little politics but criminal criminal is the big deal criminal
[01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:04.520]  terrifies all of them right well and especially I would say federal criminal
[01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:09.800]  because they're doing across state lines so okay yeah they're not yeah they know
[01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:15.960]  that you know we get the federal to look back at the state court you know the
[01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:20.680]  rule is through the state and the Fed and the Fed and the state because these
[01:55:20.680 --> 01:55:26.680]  two tend not to have any love for each other okay so we start putting that kind
[01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:31.000]  of pressure on them they're likely to want this woman out of there get her
[01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:34.920]  out of my state so what they told my sister when they were trying to steal
[01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:42.920]  everything when her husband died miss miss web I will give you this money this
[01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:50.440]  was Louisiana if you will promise me that you will move out of this state Wow
[01:55:50.440 --> 01:55:58.000]  okay okay all right well thank you very much thank you miss Francis okay now
[01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:03.560]  we're going to go to Doug in Texas hello Doug what do you have for us today
[01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:14.440]  Andy that's great so start out with your international talk about Syria and yeah
[01:56:14.440 --> 01:56:21.640]  I really appreciate that you're broadening your scope to international
[01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:29.480]  you know Syria the people over in Syria have never done anything to the people
[01:56:29.480 --> 01:56:37.960]  United States pose absolutely no threat to the people of the United States and
[01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:45.280]  then we have criminals up there just doing everything they can to commit
[01:56:45.280 --> 01:56:51.800]  another war crime that we know listed so I don't even recall what around about a
[01:56:51.800 --> 01:56:59.840]  sixth or seventh war crime that's aggression against a nation that
[01:56:59.840 --> 01:57:08.760]  poses no threat to you when you say hey we need to bud in here yeah I think
[01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:16.400]  that is absolutely the biggest deal here that Obama and the administration is
[01:57:16.400 --> 01:57:24.840]  trying to come up with a reason to attack a sovereign nation and they
[01:57:24.840 --> 01:57:33.480]  didn't just get hammered they got hammered big time not only did the world
[01:57:33.480 --> 01:57:43.280]  rise up against this the Prime Minister in England just got humiliated when he
[01:57:43.280 --> 01:57:48.440]  presented this to the Parliament and they didn't just turn it down they denied
[01:57:48.440 --> 01:57:56.440]  it hands down so he was absolutely humiliated everybody was against it and
[01:57:56.440 --> 01:58:05.640]  then the solution came out that was so simple and so straightforward that these
[01:58:05.640 --> 01:58:12.800]  guys really come up looking like the chumps that they are I could not be more
[01:58:12.800 --> 01:58:18.920]  pleased with the world community on this one thank you Doug for calling in I am
[01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:23.920]  sorry we are out of time this is Randy Kelton and Debbie Stevens rule of law
[01:58:23.920 --> 01:58:29.240]  radio we'll be back tomorrow night with our four-hour info marathon we'll be
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[01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:40.680]  securitization of the note and I'm still annoyed at him with coming up with that
[01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:45.920]  solution that was so simple I should have saw it years ago anyway we'll be
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