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[00:15.000 --> 00:19.000]  John Bush here with your Liberty Beat from Monday, July 29th, 2013.
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[00:38.000 --> 00:40.000]  And now the news.
[00:40.000 --> 00:46.000]  On Friday, the Federal Aviation Administration said they had approved licenses for the first two domestic drones.
[00:46.000 --> 00:50.000]  The drones will be used by a major energy company as well as to support emergency response crews
[00:50.000 --> 00:54.000]  for oil spill monitoring and wildlife surveillance at the beginning of August.
[00:54.000 --> 01:00.000]  The Insutu ScanEagle X-200 and AeroVironments Puma are the first of thousands of domestic drones
[01:00.000 --> 01:03.000]  expected to hit the American skies in the coming years.
[01:03.000 --> 01:07.000]  In 2011, Congress passed the FAA Reauthorization Act,
[01:07.000 --> 01:10.000]  which called for the creation of rules for domestic drone flights.
[01:10.000 --> 01:18.000]  The FAA expects 20,000 domestic drones by 2020.
[01:18.000 --> 01:23.000]  Congress has announced that they will officially investigate the August 6, 2011 helicopter crash
[01:23.000 --> 01:28.000]  that killed 30 Americans in Afghanistan, including members of the Navy's elite SEAL Team 6 unit.
[01:28.000 --> 01:33.000]  Family of the deceased SEAL Team members have been calling on President Obama to look into the crash
[01:33.000 --> 01:38.000]  after controversial details emerged that the bodies that were recovered were cremated against family wishes.
[01:38.000 --> 01:42.000]  The helicopter black box was also not recovered, reportedly due to a flash flood.
[01:42.000 --> 01:52.000]  Some of the deceased members of SEAL Team 6 were involved in the May 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden.
[01:52.000 --> 01:58.000]  On Sunday, Guardian columnist Glenn Greenwald elaborated on claims made by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden,
[01:58.000 --> 02:03.000]  stating that low-level analysts and contractors have the ability to spy on digital communications.
[02:03.000 --> 02:06.000]  Appearing on NBC's This Week, Greenwald claimed,
[02:06.000 --> 02:12.000]  these programs are very simple screens like the ones that supermarket clerks or shipping and receiving clerks use,
[02:12.000 --> 02:16.000]  where all an analyst has to do is enter an email address or an IP address.
[02:16.000 --> 02:20.000]  Greenwald says the spying takes place without court or supervisor approval.
[02:20.000 --> 02:25.000]  Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee,
[02:25.000 --> 02:29.000]  previously denied that the NSA spying program functioned in this fashion.
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[03:29.000 --> 03:34.000]  Somebody got away, somebody didn't get too far, yeah
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[03:39.000 --> 03:43.000]  Grandpappy told my pappy back in my day, son
[03:43.000 --> 03:47.000]  A man had to answer for the wig that he'd done
[03:47.000 --> 03:51.000]  They call the rope in Texas by the tall old tree
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[04:01.000 --> 04:05.000]  That justice is one thing you should always find
[04:05.000 --> 04:09.000]  You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line
[04:09.000 --> 04:13.000]  When the guns go to seven, we'll sing a victory tune
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[04:27.000 --> 04:32.000]  Hi folks, good evening. This is the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Traffic Show
[04:32.000 --> 04:38.000]  and I am your host, Eddie Craig. It is July 29th, 2013.
[04:38.000 --> 04:43.000]  It has been a day today. I have been reading up on some stuff.
[04:43.000 --> 04:48.000]  And part of what I want to talk about is where they have attempted
[04:48.000 --> 04:55.000]  via these various codes to insinuate that the code has the authority
[04:55.000 --> 05:01.000]  to overrule and override the rights of the people in every respect.
[05:01.000 --> 05:06.000]  So what we're going to talk about tonight is where that just is not so.
[05:06.000 --> 05:11.000]  Now, before we begin that, there's a particular definition
[05:11.000 --> 05:16.000]  that everyone needs to be aware of, especially the people within Texas.
[05:16.000 --> 05:21.000]  And in your particular republic, state, whatever you want to call it,
[05:21.000 --> 05:25.000]  you need to find where this definition exists in your particular state
[05:25.000 --> 05:29.000]  and see who's listed there. That definition is peace officers.
[05:29.000 --> 05:34.000]  And I want to tell you right now that they forgot the most important
[05:34.000 --> 05:37.000]  peace officer of all in this definition.
[05:37.000 --> 05:41.000]  When I get through reading it, I want you to see if you can identify
[05:41.000 --> 05:44.000]  which one they left out.
[05:44.000 --> 05:48.000]  Article 2.12 Code of Criminal Procedure here in Texas,
[05:48.000 --> 05:50.000]  who are peace officers?
[05:50.000 --> 05:53.000]  The following are peace officers.
[05:53.000 --> 05:58.000]  One, sheriffs, their deputies, and those reserve deputies who hold
[05:58.000 --> 06:05.000]  a permanent peace officer license issued under Chapter 1701 Occupations Code.
[06:05.000 --> 06:11.000]  Two, constables, deputy constables, and those reserve deputy constables
[06:11.000 --> 06:16.000]  who hold a permanent peace officer license issued under Chapter 1701
[06:16.000 --> 06:19.000]  Occupations Code.
[06:19.000 --> 06:26.000]  Three, marshals or police officers of an incorporated city, town, or village,
[06:26.000 --> 06:31.000]  and those reserve municipal police officers who hold a permanent peace
[06:31.000 --> 06:37.000]  officer license issued under Chapter 1701 Occupations Code.
[06:37.000 --> 06:42.000]  Four, rangers and officers commissioned by the Public Safety Commission
[06:42.000 --> 06:46.000]  and the Director of the Department of Public Safety.
[06:46.000 --> 06:51.000]  Five, investigators of the district attorneys, criminal district attorneys,
[06:51.000 --> 06:54.000]  and county attorneys' offices.
[06:54.000 --> 07:01.000]  Six, law enforcement agents of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.
[07:01.000 --> 07:06.000]  Seven, each member of an arson investigating unit commissioned by a city,
[07:06.000 --> 07:09.000]  a county, or the state.
[07:09.000 --> 07:16.000]  Eight, officers commissioned under Section 37.081 Education Code
[07:16.000 --> 07:20.000]  or Subchapter E, Chapter 51 Education Code.
[07:20.000 --> 07:26.000]  Nine, officers commissioned by the General Services Commission.
[07:26.000 --> 07:32.000]  Ten, law enforcement officers commissioned by the Parks and Wildlife Commission.
[07:32.000 --> 07:37.000]  Eleven, airport police officers commissioned by a city
[07:37.000 --> 07:41.000]  with a population of more than 1.18 million,
[07:41.000 --> 07:45.000]  located primarily in a county with a population of 2 million or more
[07:45.000 --> 07:50.000]  that operates an airport that serves commercial air carriers.
[07:50.000 --> 07:56.000]  Twelve, airport security personnel commissioned as peace officers
[07:56.000 --> 08:01.000]  by the governing body of any political subdivision of this state,
[08:01.000 --> 08:05.000]  other than a city described by Subdivision 11
[08:05.000 --> 08:10.000]  that operates an airport that serves commercial air carriers.
[08:10.000 --> 08:16.000]  Thirteen, municipal park and recreational patrolmen and security officers.
[08:16.000 --> 08:21.000]  Fourteen, security officers and investigators commissioned as peace officers
[08:21.000 --> 08:23.000]  by the comptroller.
[08:23.000 --> 08:28.000]  Fifteen, officers commissioned by a water control and improvement district
[08:28.000 --> 08:32.000]  under Section 49.216 Water Code.
[08:32.000 --> 08:36.000]  Sixteen, officers commissioned by a Board of Trustees
[08:36.000 --> 08:40.000]  under Chapter 54 Transportation Code.
[08:40.000 --> 08:45.000]  Seventeen, investigators commissioned by the Texas Medical Board.
[08:45.000 --> 08:51.000]  Eighteen, officers commissioned by A, the Board of Managers
[08:51.000 --> 08:55.000]  of the Dallas County Hospital District, the Tarrant County Hospital District,
[08:55.000 --> 09:00.000]  the Bexar County Hospital District, or the El Paso County Hospital District
[09:00.000 --> 09:05.000]  under Section 281.057 Health and Safety Code.
[09:05.000 --> 09:09.000]  And B, the Board of Directors of the Ector County Hospital District
[09:09.000 --> 09:15.000]  under Section 1024.117 Special District Local Laws Code.
[09:15.000 --> 09:20.000]  Nineteen, County Park Rangers commissioned under Subchapter E,
[09:20.000 --> 09:23.000]  Chapter 351 Local Government Code.
[09:23.000 --> 09:28.000]  Twenty, investigators employed by the Texas Racing Commission.
[09:28.000 --> 09:35.000]  Twenty-one, officers commissioned under Chapter 554 Occupations Code.
[09:35.000 --> 09:39.000]  Twenty-two, officers commissioned by the governing body of a Metropolitan
[09:39.000 --> 09:44.000]  Rapid Transit Authority under Section 451.108.
[09:44.000 --> 09:48.000]  Twenty-three, investigators commissioned by the Attorney General
[09:48.000 --> 09:52.000]  under Section 402.009 Government Code.
[09:52.000 --> 09:56.000]  Twenty-four, security officers and investigators commissioned as
[09:56.000 --> 10:01.000]  peace officers under Chapter 466 Government Code.
[10:01.000 --> 10:05.000]  Twenty-five, an officer employed by the Department of State Health Services
[10:05.000 --> 10:11.000]  under Section 431.2471 Health and Safety Code.
[10:11.000 --> 10:15.000]  Twenty-six, officers appointed by an appellate court under
[10:15.000 --> 10:19.000]  Subchapter F, Chapter 53 Government Code.
[10:19.000 --> 10:23.000]  Twenty-seven, officers commissioned by the State Fire Marshal
[10:23.000 --> 10:26.000]  under Chapter 417 Government Code.
[10:26.000 --> 10:31.000]  Twenty-eight, an investigator commissioned by the Commissioner of Insurance
[10:31.000 --> 10:35.000]  under Section 701.104 Insurance Code.
[10:35.000 --> 10:40.000]  Twenty-nine, Apprehension Specialist and Inspectors General
[10:40.000 --> 10:43.000]  commissioned by the Texas Juvenile Justice Department
[10:43.000 --> 10:51.000]  officers under Sections 242.102 and 243.052 Human Resources Code.
[10:51.000 --> 10:55.000]  Thirty, officers appointed by the Inspector General of the Texas
[10:55.000 --> 11:01.000]  Department of Criminal Justice under Section 493.019 Government Code.
[11:01.000 --> 11:06.000]  Thirty-one, investigators commissioned by the Commission on Law Enforcement
[11:06.000 --> 11:14.000]  Officer Standards and Education under Section 1701.160 Occupations Code.
[11:14.000 --> 11:19.000]  Thirty-two, commissioned investigators commissioned by the Texas
[11:19.000 --> 11:27.000]  Private Security Board under Section 1702.061F Occupations Code.
[11:27.000 --> 11:32.000]  Thirty-three, the Fire Marshal and any officers, inspectors, or
[11:32.000 --> 11:36.000]  investigators commissioned by an Emergency Services District under
[11:36.000 --> 11:39.000]  Chapter 775 Health and Safety Code.
[11:39.000 --> 11:44.000]  Thirty-four, officers commissioned by the State Board of Dental Examiners
[11:44.000 --> 11:50.000]  under Section 254.013 Occupations Code subject to the limitations imposed
[11:50.000 --> 11:52.000]  by that section.
[11:52.000 --> 11:56.000]  Thirty-five, investigators commissioned by the Texas Juvenile Justice
[11:56.000 --> 12:02.000]  Department as officers under Section 221.011 Human Resources Code and
[12:02.000 --> 12:06.000]  thirty-six, the Fire Marshal and any related officers, inspectors, or
[12:06.000 --> 12:10.000]  investigators commissioned by a county under Subchapter B, Chapter 352
[12:10.000 --> 12:13.000]  Local Government Code.
[12:13.000 --> 12:19.000]  Okay, there are 36 specific occupations and or governmental capacities
[12:19.000 --> 12:24.000]  listed here that constitute peace officers in Texas.
[12:24.000 --> 12:29.000]  Which one did they leave out?
[12:29.000 --> 12:38.000]  Well, let me tell you, you and me, every single living human being is a
[12:38.000 --> 12:39.000]  peace officer.
[12:39.000 --> 12:43.000]  All of us have the power of arrest for felonies or breaches of the peace
[12:43.000 --> 12:47.000]  committed in our presence, even if those are perpetrated by one of these
[12:47.000 --> 12:50.000]  so-called peace officers.
[12:50.000 --> 12:57.000]  Okay, the power to arrest is no greater in a police officer or a peace
[12:57.000 --> 13:01.000]  officer than it is in any of the people as individuals.
[13:01.000 --> 13:03.000]  There's lots of case law that says so.
[13:03.000 --> 13:07.000]  The power to arrest for either of us is the same.
[13:07.000 --> 13:10.000]  We don't need a license to make an arrest.
[13:10.000 --> 13:15.000]  We don't need a warrant if the felony or the breach of the peace is committed
[13:15.000 --> 13:17.000]  in our presence or view.
[13:17.000 --> 13:21.000]  Our presence, according to case law, simply means that we can readily
[13:21.000 --> 13:27.000]  identify by sound and location the parties involved in the breach.
[13:27.000 --> 13:28.000]  Okay?
[13:28.000 --> 13:35.000]  I can round a corner because I heard a commotion and I can see by what I see
[13:35.000 --> 13:39.000]  when I round the corner who caused it, how it happened, so on and so forth.
[13:39.000 --> 13:42.000]  That's in my presence or directly in my view.
[13:42.000 --> 13:46.000]  I actually see it happen.
[13:46.000 --> 13:54.000]  Now, the other that is missing from here, of course, is any federal employee.
[13:54.000 --> 13:58.000]  There is no federal employee listed in this Section 2.12 of the Code of
[13:58.000 --> 14:02.000]  Criminal Procedure as peace officers.
[14:02.000 --> 14:04.000]  Now, why am I bringing that up?
[14:04.000 --> 14:06.000]  Well, here's why.
[14:06.000 --> 14:12.000]  One, if they're not peace officers in Texas, they're also not police officers
[14:12.000 --> 14:17.000]  in Texas or at least they have to be some sort of Texas employee before they
[14:17.000 --> 14:19.000]  can be police officers.
[14:19.000 --> 14:23.000]  They either have to be an employee of a municipality, they have to be an
[14:23.000 --> 14:28.000]  employee of a county, they have to be an employee of the state to qualify as
[14:28.000 --> 14:35.000]  a police officer given the power to enforce codes and police them.
[14:35.000 --> 14:36.000]  Okay?
[14:36.000 --> 14:40.000]  And those that are subject to those codes, which is not everyone like they
[14:40.000 --> 14:42.000]  would prefer that you believe.
[14:42.000 --> 14:48.000]  Now, the reason that becomes important, when you get into your rights, you're
[14:48.000 --> 14:52.000]  looking at the fact that the codes all say that certain pieces of information
[14:52.000 --> 14:58.000]  have to be produced and given to any peace officer on demand, such as your
[14:58.000 --> 15:04.000]  license, such as your proof of financial responsibility, so on and so forth,
[15:04.000 --> 15:07.000]  your so-called ID, okay?
[15:07.000 --> 15:10.000]  This is not true.
[15:10.000 --> 15:15.000]  The authority to demand that is related to the regulable activity to which the
[15:15.000 --> 15:19.000]  license or permit they're demanding or the other accouterment, such as financial
[15:19.000 --> 15:25.000]  responsibility, to which it applies, transportation for the most part,
[15:25.000 --> 15:28.000]  concealed carry for the most part.
[15:28.000 --> 15:33.000]  The thing is is they can't license you and I to exercise a right.
[15:33.000 --> 15:34.000]  How do I know this?
[15:34.000 --> 15:37.000]  Well, we got case law on that too.
[15:37.000 --> 15:39.000]  There are these few little cases here.
[15:39.000 --> 15:43.000]  Let's start with one that's pretty well known, Miranda versus Arizona, which is
[15:43.000 --> 15:47.000]  384 U.S. 436 and 491.
[15:47.000 --> 15:52.000]  Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rulemaking
[15:52.000 --> 15:55.000]  or legislation which would abrogate them.
[15:55.000 --> 16:00.000]  In other words, the legislature can't pass a statute or anything else, an
[16:00.000 --> 16:06.000]  ordinance or anything else that would allow them to abrogate or derogate a
[16:06.000 --> 16:08.000]  right, okay?
[16:08.000 --> 16:12.000]  Those are just fancy words for diminish or take away.
[16:12.000 --> 16:17.000]  The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a
[16:17.000 --> 16:26.000]  crime, Miller versus U.S. 230, Federal 486 at 489, okay?
[16:26.000 --> 16:31.000]  There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise
[16:31.000 --> 16:33.000]  of constitutional rights.
[16:33.000 --> 16:40.000]  Scherer, S-H-E-R-E-R versus Cullen, 481 Federal 946.
[16:40.000 --> 16:41.000]  All right, folks.
[16:41.000 --> 16:42.000]  Y'all hang on.
[16:42.000 --> 16:44.000]  We're going to cover some more of this on the other side.
[16:44.000 --> 16:45.000]  We'll be right back.
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[19:47.000 --> 19:54.000]  Okay, now, not only can they not convert a right into a crime here and
[19:54.000 --> 19:58.000]  criminalize the exercise of it, let's look at a couple other things that
[19:58.000 --> 20:00.000]  they cannot do.
[20:00.000 --> 20:05.000]  There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this
[20:05.000 --> 20:08.000]  exercise of constitutional rights.
[20:08.000 --> 20:12.000]  Again, Shearer v. Cullen, 481 Federal 946.
[20:12.000 --> 20:14.000]  Okay?
[20:14.000 --> 20:19.000]  Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved?
[20:19.000 --> 20:23.000]  Miranda, one of the most famous cases out there, people.
[20:23.000 --> 20:26.000]  Why do we let them get away with this?
[20:26.000 --> 20:27.000]  Okay?
[20:27.000 --> 20:31.000]  I mean, you've got Murdoch v. Pennsylvania, which is 319 U.S. 105.
[20:31.000 --> 20:36.000]  No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and charge a
[20:36.000 --> 20:38.000]  fee therefore.
[20:38.000 --> 20:41.000]  That goes directly to the heart of this licensing BS they pull with the
[20:41.000 --> 20:46.000]  driver's license because the right to travel and the right of locomotion is
[20:46.000 --> 20:51.000]  all inherent in the right to liberty.
[20:51.000 --> 20:55.000]  So they can't just license it and convert it into a privilege.
[20:55.000 --> 20:56.000]  Okay?
[20:56.000 --> 21:01.000]  But again, that's not the main point of what I'm talking about tonight.
[21:01.000 --> 21:06.000]  The other aspect of what they're doing here, let's look at something they're
[21:06.000 --> 21:08.000]  doing right now.
[21:08.000 --> 21:13.000]  These interior border checks.
[21:13.000 --> 21:14.000]  Okay?
[21:14.000 --> 21:19.000]  Now, remember, in the list of peace officers in Texas where they can stop
[21:19.000 --> 21:24.000]  and demand your papers and so on and so forth, that's only Texas peace
[21:24.000 --> 21:25.000]  officers.
[21:25.000 --> 21:27.000]  No federal employee is listed there.
[21:27.000 --> 21:29.000]  None, not a zip.
[21:29.000 --> 21:36.000]  In fact, the term or phrase Mexican border only appears in the
[21:36.000 --> 21:39.000]  transportation code in two places.
[21:39.000 --> 21:45.000]  One of which is section 225.069, ports to planes corridor.
[21:45.000 --> 21:50.000]  And subsection A, the following highways are designated as the ports to
[21:50.000 --> 21:57.000]  plane corridor, interstate highway 35 from the Mexican border at Laredo to
[21:57.000 --> 21:59.000]  its intersection with U.S.
[21:59.000 --> 22:01.000]  Highway 83.
[22:01.000 --> 22:03.000]  Okay?
[22:03.000 --> 22:09.000]  Now, given that, that is one place where it's listed.
[22:09.000 --> 22:16.000]  The second is in section 600.002 of the transportation code.
[22:16.000 --> 22:22.000]  Identification required for vehicle near Mexican border.
[22:22.000 --> 22:28.000]  Now, let's see if you can figure out by how this reads what near means.
[22:28.000 --> 22:40.000]  On demand of a peace officer within 250 feet of the Mexican border at a
[22:40.000 --> 22:48.000]  checkpoint authorized by section 411.0095 government code as added by
[22:48.000 --> 22:54.000]  chapter 497, acts of the 73rd legislature regular session 1993, the
[22:54.000 --> 22:59.000]  driver of a vehicle shall produce a driver's license and proof of
[22:59.000 --> 23:03.000]  compliance with chapter 601, which is the financial responsibility.
[23:03.000 --> 23:10.000]  Now, what type of problems does this create right here?
[23:10.000 --> 23:16.000]  First off, if you swam across the border or you brought an SUV through
[23:16.000 --> 23:20.000]  shallow water across the border, these guys aren't authorized under this
[23:20.000 --> 23:23.000]  statute to stop you and ask for your papers.
[23:23.000 --> 23:29.000]  Because they have to be within 250 feet of a checkpoint that's authorized
[23:29.000 --> 23:34.000]  by section 411.0095.
[23:34.000 --> 23:38.000]  So if the Rio Grande drives up enough for you to come across in a car, be
[23:38.000 --> 23:41.000]  more than 250 feet from the regular checkpoint.
[23:41.000 --> 23:43.000]  According to this, there ain't nothing the Texas authorities can do about
[23:43.000 --> 23:45.000]  it.
[23:45.000 --> 23:47.000]  That's the limitation they created.
[23:47.000 --> 23:52.000]  But most importantly here, this is out of the transportation code.
[23:52.000 --> 23:55.000]  So we're right back to the deadly sins issue.
[23:55.000 --> 24:00.000]  Driver, vehicle, and the accouterments associated therewith.
[24:00.000 --> 24:04.000]  Driver's license, proof of financial responsibility.
[24:04.000 --> 24:06.000]  Okay?
[24:06.000 --> 24:12.000]  They can't demand this of everyone, only those engaging in transportation.
[24:12.000 --> 24:13.000]  Why?
[24:13.000 --> 24:19.000]  Because this authority is given only under the transportation code.
[24:19.000 --> 24:21.000]  Okay?
[24:21.000 --> 24:23.000]  Let's look at some of the other statutes.
[24:23.000 --> 24:26.000]  This is one of them where they're saying you have to produce it on demand.
[24:26.000 --> 24:30.000]  Where else do they say that you have to produce it on demand?
[24:30.000 --> 24:35.000]  Oh, section 601.053, subsection A.
[24:35.000 --> 24:40.000]  As a condition of operating in this state a motor vehicle to which section
[24:40.000 --> 24:47.000]  601.051 applies, the operator of the vehicle on request shall provide to a
[24:47.000 --> 24:53.000]  peace officer as defined by Article 2.12 Code of Criminal Procedure or a
[24:53.000 --> 24:57.000]  person involved in an accident with the operator evidence of financial
[24:57.000 --> 25:03.000]  responsibility by exhibiting, one, a motor vehicle liability insurance policy
[25:03.000 --> 25:07.000]  covering the vehicle, standard proof of motor vehicle liability insurance
[25:07.000 --> 25:09.000]  form, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[25:09.000 --> 25:12.000]  Again, all dealing with transportation.
[25:12.000 --> 25:14.000]  Where else do they do it?
[25:14.000 --> 25:17.000]  Oh, 521.025 of the transportation code.
[25:17.000 --> 25:22.000]  License to be carried and exhibited on demand.
[25:22.000 --> 25:24.000]  Criminal penalty, subsection A.
[25:24.000 --> 25:31.000]  A person required to hold a license under section 521.021 shall, one,
[25:31.000 --> 25:36.000]  have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of
[25:36.000 --> 25:41.000]  driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated.
[25:41.000 --> 25:42.000]  Okay?
[25:42.000 --> 25:46.000]  To display the license on the demand of a magistrate court officer or
[25:46.000 --> 25:47.000]  peace officer.
[25:47.000 --> 25:48.000]  Okay?
[25:48.000 --> 25:49.000]  B.
[25:49.000 --> 25:54.000]  A person, a peace officer may stop and detain a person operating a motor
[25:54.000 --> 25:59.000]  vehicle to determine if the person has a driver's license as required by this
[25:59.000 --> 26:00.000]  section.
[26:00.000 --> 26:03.000]  Okay?
[26:03.000 --> 26:10.000]  Now, they're trying to say that you can't travel in your car without their
[26:10.000 --> 26:15.000]  license because of these statutes, right?
[26:15.000 --> 26:19.000]  But we have the case law that says they can't convert your right of locomotion
[26:19.000 --> 26:26.000]  and the right to travel into a privilege by licensing and attaching a fee to it.
[26:26.000 --> 26:29.000]  So what's the problem?
[26:29.000 --> 26:30.000]  I'll tell you.
[26:30.000 --> 26:33.000]  It's the same it's always been.
[26:33.000 --> 26:35.000]  Money.
[26:35.000 --> 26:41.000]  Notice how cleverly these statutes are written.
[26:41.000 --> 26:43.000]  Okay?
[26:43.000 --> 26:47.000]  They disguise who they apply to by the way they wrote the language.
[26:47.000 --> 26:49.000]  Notice subsection A.
[26:49.000 --> 26:53.000]  A person required to hold a license.
[26:53.000 --> 26:58.000]  What it negates to tell you is that the subject matter specifically limits who
[26:58.000 --> 27:08.000]  that person is or can be, only those engaged in transportation.
[27:08.000 --> 27:10.000]  This is not rocket science, people.
[27:10.000 --> 27:13.000]  I've tried to tell you that over and over again.
[27:13.000 --> 27:17.000]  They cannot license a right.
[27:17.000 --> 27:20.000]  They can't put a permit on a right.
[27:20.000 --> 27:25.000]  They can't charge a fee to exercise a right.
[27:25.000 --> 27:28.000]  They just can't do it.
[27:28.000 --> 27:34.000]  They get away with it only because you operate under the presumption that they
[27:34.000 --> 27:37.000]  can get away with it.
[27:37.000 --> 27:41.000]  And I'm here to tell you they cannot.
[27:41.000 --> 27:48.000]  But as long as you believe they have the power to limit your power, they will
[27:48.000 --> 27:53.000]  continue to do it.
[27:53.000 --> 27:57.000]  And I think what I'm trying to do is to get people educated on these facts
[27:57.000 --> 28:05.000]  because it astounds me just how little people understand what a right is in
[28:05.000 --> 28:08.000]  comparison to a privilege.
[28:08.000 --> 28:16.000]  Every time you say but or what if or but can't they or anything of that nature,
[28:16.000 --> 28:26.000]  what about, isn't there, don't you need, all of those are you seeking permission
[28:26.000 --> 28:30.000]  to do everything that you already have a right to do.
[28:30.000 --> 28:34.000]  This goes hand in hand with my argument that the state cannot license you to
[28:34.000 --> 28:35.000]  carry a gun.
[28:35.000 --> 28:37.000]  They can't do it.
[28:37.000 --> 28:38.000]  Why?
[28:38.000 --> 28:42.000]  Because when you look at the Texas Constitution, all of the various versions
[28:42.000 --> 28:47.000]  from the 1824 forward, the right to keep and bear arms by the people is very
[28:47.000 --> 28:52.000]  clearly stated in every single piece of the language.
[28:52.000 --> 28:53.000]  Okay?
[28:53.000 --> 28:59.000]  Now, in the 1876, which is the current version they claim to operate under,
[28:59.000 --> 29:02.000]  they put an amended section in there.
[29:02.000 --> 29:05.000]  Now, remember, the Constitution doesn't limit the people.
[29:05.000 --> 29:07.000]  It doesn't grant the people's rights.
[29:07.000 --> 29:11.000]  It doesn't give the people anything.
[29:11.000 --> 29:17.000]  It limits and binds the government, not you and I.
[29:17.000 --> 29:21.000]  When it added that little blurb, the state shall have the power to regulate
[29:21.000 --> 29:24.000]  the wearing of arms with an eye towards crime prevention, well,
[29:24.000 --> 29:29.000]  that list of people in 2.12 is the only people to whom that particular
[29:29.000 --> 29:34.000]  amendment can apply because they work for the state.
[29:34.000 --> 29:37.000]  They're the only one the state can regulate.
[29:37.000 --> 29:41.000]  They're the only ones the state can license.
[29:41.000 --> 29:44.000]  You see, people, it isn't you and me.
[29:44.000 --> 29:49.000]  It's their employees that should get the concealed carry permits.
[29:49.000 --> 29:51.000]  It's not you and me.
[29:51.000 --> 29:53.000]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
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[33:15.000 --> 33:37.000]  Hi, folks, we are back.
[33:37.000 --> 33:44.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio calling number 512-646-1984.
[33:44.000 --> 33:45.000]  All right.
[33:45.000 --> 33:47.000]  We have a couple of callers up on the board.
[33:47.000 --> 33:48.000]  I am going to start taking calls.
[33:48.000 --> 33:50.000]  My call screener is having a bit of an issue.
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[34:01.000 --> 34:02.000]  OK.
[34:02.000 --> 34:06.000]  If my screener gets back with you, then just he'll tell you the same thing.
[34:06.000 --> 34:10.000]  In the meantime, keep that in mind while I answer your calls.
[34:10.000 --> 34:11.000]  All right.
[34:11.000 --> 34:13.000]  We're going to start with Mark in Washington.
[34:13.000 --> 34:18.000]  Mark, do you swear to ask the only good questions and only good questions all night long?
[34:18.000 --> 34:19.000]  I will do my best.
[34:19.000 --> 34:20.000]  Well, all right.
[34:20.000 --> 34:21.000]  What do you got?
[34:21.000 --> 34:29.000]  Well, it is long and drawn out, and I do not want to spend a whole lot of time wasting your time running through the details.
[34:29.000 --> 34:35.000]  So I am going to distill it down to the basics.
[34:35.000 --> 34:47.000]  The Washington State Patrol, I should not say Washington, but the Washington State Patrol, they have reason to try to establish me behind the wheel on a particular date.
[34:47.000 --> 34:54.000]  I have reason for them not to establish that I was behind the wheel on that particular date.
[34:54.000 --> 35:10.000]  Now, they have gone ahead and charged me with two traffic infractions involving the non-criminal traffic violation.
[35:10.000 --> 35:22.000]  Now, on their traffic citation, the actual licensing information is incorrect.
[35:22.000 --> 35:32.000]  It has my license number, but there's a lot of things on details such as the expiration date, my height and weight, my eye color.
[35:32.000 --> 35:34.000]  All of that is incorrect.
[35:34.000 --> 35:37.000]  Now, the most important thing is...
[35:37.000 --> 35:39.000]  On the citation or on the license?
[35:39.000 --> 35:41.000]  On the citation.
[35:41.000 --> 35:46.000]  It's different than what's on the license, on my license.
[35:46.000 --> 35:49.000]  Did you give them that license?
[35:49.000 --> 35:59.000]  I did, but this was several weeks after the day at which I don't want them to establish that I was behind the wheel.
[35:59.000 --> 36:09.000]  So he came to my house and he asked me for my license and proof of insurance.
[36:09.000 --> 36:15.000]  And unfortunately, I hadn't read your stuff in great detail.
[36:15.000 --> 36:22.000]  I handed it over to him. He got my license number and got my proof of insurance.
[36:22.000 --> 36:31.000]  So now I have this citation, and I've got it right here in front of me.
[36:31.000 --> 36:32.000]  It kind of surprised me.
[36:32.000 --> 36:35.000]  You went to me as soon as you did.
[36:35.000 --> 36:37.000]  I had to grab it.
[36:37.000 --> 36:51.000]  So the citation, there's two of them speeding two faster conditions and failed to signal for turn and dash on safe lane.
[36:51.000 --> 36:55.000]  So two violations of the RC provides go to Washington.
[36:55.000 --> 37:03.000]  Now, what I was thinking of doing here with this...
[37:03.000 --> 37:05.000]  Oh, here's the thing.
[37:05.000 --> 37:11.000]  The violation date is incorrect.
[37:11.000 --> 37:16.000]  I did not even own my vehicle on the violation date.
[37:16.000 --> 37:18.000]  I'm sorry, you didn't own your what?
[37:18.000 --> 37:24.000]  I didn't own my conveyance on the violation date.
[37:24.000 --> 37:35.000]  So here I have to...they're trying to force me into three choices.
[37:35.000 --> 37:37.000]  I can close the check or money order.
[37:37.000 --> 37:40.000]  I understand this is going to my driving record if traffic is checked.
[37:40.000 --> 37:42.000]  A mitigation hearing and a contested hearing.
[37:42.000 --> 37:43.000]  Okay.
[37:43.000 --> 37:45.000]  You said you're in Washington State, right?
[37:45.000 --> 37:46.000]  That's correct.
[37:46.000 --> 37:47.000]  Okay.
[37:47.000 --> 37:51.000]  The revised codes of Washington...let me short-circuit this just a little bit here.
[37:51.000 --> 37:54.000]  Are you a commercial driver?
[37:54.000 --> 37:55.000]  No.
[37:55.000 --> 37:57.000]  Then what are you worried about?
[37:57.000 --> 38:02.000]  The revised codes of Washington clearly state they apply only to commercial drivers.
[38:02.000 --> 38:04.000]  Look up the definition of motor vehicle.
[38:04.000 --> 38:07.000]  Look up the definition of operator or driver.
[38:07.000 --> 38:12.000]  I did, and it appears as if they've changed definitions as of 2010.
[38:12.000 --> 38:19.000]  Well, they can't change the definition to include something it never included before.
[38:19.000 --> 38:26.000]  If you check your state constitution, you'll find out they cannot change the subject matter of a statute simply by amendment.
[38:26.000 --> 38:29.000]  They have to repeal and reenact.
[38:29.000 --> 38:30.000]  Okay.
[38:30.000 --> 38:41.000]  Well, that having been said, Eddie, I'll go ahead and I'll look up the RCWs where the definitions reside, and I'll try to track those back.
[38:41.000 --> 38:48.000]  I tracked everything back to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration website.
[38:48.000 --> 38:50.000]  Yeah, which is still commercial.
[38:50.000 --> 38:52.000]  And so, well, yes, I know.
[38:52.000 --> 38:55.000]  I wanted to read what they had to say.
[38:55.000 --> 39:02.000]  And the RCWs have the definition that don't agree with the FMC essay.
[39:02.000 --> 39:05.000]  So I've got a little bit of work to do there.
[39:05.000 --> 39:07.000]  But here's the issue.
[39:07.000 --> 39:13.000]  You know your red light letter that you have on the power of law?
[39:13.000 --> 39:14.000]  Yes.
[39:14.000 --> 39:22.000]  I read through that, and I think all of that applies to me for these citations.
[39:22.000 --> 39:25.000]  So I have two questions now that you know everything about.
[39:25.000 --> 39:36.000]  First, my plan was to alter your red light citation letter a little bit because I was not in the vehicle on the date of the citation.
[39:36.000 --> 39:37.000]  You weren't in the what?
[39:37.000 --> 39:45.000]  I wasn't in my conveyance. I didn't even own my conveyance on the date of this citation.
[39:45.000 --> 39:59.000]  The individual who filled out this citation made an error in the specific personal data of my driver's license and the violation date and time.
[39:59.000 --> 40:00.000]  Okay.
[40:00.000 --> 40:03.000]  Look, you're trying to make two different arguments here.
[40:03.000 --> 40:04.000]  Okay.
[40:04.000 --> 40:17.000]  If they fix the date issue, which they can, okay, and you keep arguing merits, just give them your wallet.
[40:17.000 --> 40:19.000]  Well, I don't want to argue merits.
[40:19.000 --> 40:23.000]  Well, then stop arguing the dates and other information on the ticket.
[40:23.000 --> 40:25.000]  It's irrelevant.
[40:25.000 --> 40:31.000]  Either you're a commercial driver acting in a commercial capacity or you're not.
[40:31.000 --> 40:40.000]  If you're not, the merits don't mean squat because they can only be applied to someone who is.
[40:40.000 --> 40:49.000]  Well, let me ask you before we let it go completely, when can they revise the violation date?
[40:49.000 --> 40:52.000]  Any time they find out it's wrong prior to trial.
[40:52.000 --> 40:53.000]  Okay.
[40:53.000 --> 40:58.000]  So if I show up to trial and they still haven't revised it, can they revise it then?
[40:58.000 --> 41:04.000]  The judge can allow them to ask for a reset and or continuance and allow them to do it,
[41:04.000 --> 41:12.000]  and possibly even the Washington statutes may let them do it right there on the spot as long as they serve you with a copy of it after the fact.
[41:12.000 --> 41:13.000]  Okay.
[41:13.000 --> 41:16.000]  Again, that issue is a merits issue.
[41:16.000 --> 41:18.000]  There's no reason to go to merits.
[41:18.000 --> 41:26.000]  The complaint cannot be valid if it's being served upon someone to whom it cannot apply, right?
[41:26.000 --> 41:28.000]  Well, I understand that.
[41:28.000 --> 41:39.000]  I guess I've got to give you a call back or write you an email after I've researched the basis and law that the RCWs apply.
[41:39.000 --> 41:55.000]  They clearly, the RCW definitions for driver, operator, and vehicle all appear to include people not involved in transportation.
[41:55.000 --> 41:59.000]  And that simply isn't possible.
[41:59.000 --> 42:00.000]  Okay.
[42:00.000 --> 42:06.000]  I need to find out where the break in the law is that I'm not seeing.
[42:06.000 --> 42:07.000]  Okay.
[42:07.000 --> 42:15.000]  First off, check your state constitution and see what it says about amendments to existing enactments.
[42:15.000 --> 42:21.000]  I am pretty certain you're going to probably find, because most state constitutions have it, including Texas here,
[42:21.000 --> 42:29.000]  that in the legislature branch of your whatever article that is of your particular constitution there,
[42:29.000 --> 42:39.000]  that they cannot change the subject or object of a law by amendment.
[42:39.000 --> 42:50.000]  The title of the law, the explanation of it generally in the bill, you have the title and then you have what they call the description or something similar to that.
[42:50.000 --> 42:57.000]  That basically is a summary of what the enactment is supposed to apply to.
[42:57.000 --> 43:05.000]  They cannot put anything in the body of that statute that is not listed in that summary.
[43:05.000 --> 43:07.000]  Got it?
[43:07.000 --> 43:08.000]  Yes.
[43:08.000 --> 43:19.000]  So if that's the case in Washington, then that's the case even though they've attempted to change it by obliterating certain words in the amended version.
[43:19.000 --> 43:25.000]  They cannot change the object or subject by doing that.
[43:25.000 --> 43:27.000]  Okay.
[43:27.000 --> 43:28.000]  So start there.
[43:28.000 --> 43:32.000]  Then look at the statutes, past and present.
[43:32.000 --> 43:33.000]  Okay.
[43:33.000 --> 43:34.000]  Got it, Eddie.
[43:34.000 --> 43:35.000]  All right.
[43:35.000 --> 43:36.000]  Thanks a lot for your help.
[43:36.000 --> 43:37.000]  Yes, sir.
[43:37.000 --> 43:39.000]  Thanks for calling in.
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[45:03.000 --> 45:12.000]  Mr. President, members of Congress, you've been making a lot of noise about taking our guns away, but you might want to review history.
[45:12.000 --> 45:16.000]  1835, Gonzales, Texas Territory.
[45:16.000 --> 45:21.000]  The authorities wanted to confiscate the big gun that protected that colony.
[45:21.000 --> 45:23.000]  You know what the people said?
[45:23.000 --> 45:25.000]  Come and take it.
[45:25.000 --> 45:30.000]  Because they were willing to fight for their freedom and their guns.
[45:30.000 --> 45:32.000]  So were we.
[45:32.000 --> 45:44.000]  Come and take it if you want it. Come and take it if you think you can. Come and take it, but I warn you, you'll have to pry it from our folded hands.
[45:44.000 --> 45:55.000]  We want the freedom that God gave us, so you best not cross that line. If you want this gun, you gotta come through us and take it.
[45:55.000 --> 45:58.000]  One shot at a time.
[45:58.000 --> 46:02.000]  Just like Gonzales, we're keeping our guns.
[46:28.000 --> 46:32.000]  A warrior of love, scaffolding their keys to the peace.
[46:32.000 --> 46:35.000]  All they're taking is misunderstanding.
[46:35.000 --> 46:37.000]  And somebody calls the police.
[46:37.000 --> 46:58.000]  Watchin' the spots fly. Watchin' the spots fly. Watchin' the spots fly. Watchin' the spots fly.
[46:58.000 --> 47:01.000]  Hi folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[47:01.000 --> 47:08.000]  And number 512-646-1984. My call screener is now working overtime to catch up.
[47:08.000 --> 47:11.000]  So let's go back to our callers.
[47:11.000 --> 47:14.000]  First one that comes up screened is George in Texas.
[47:14.000 --> 47:16.000]  George, what can I do for you?
[47:16.000 --> 47:19.000]  How are you doing, Ed? I want to ask you a question.
[47:19.000 --> 47:22.000]  This may sound like very far-fetched or a long shot.
[47:22.000 --> 47:30.000]  And has anybody, a pro se ligand, ever went before the State Supreme Court?
[47:30.000 --> 47:33.000]  I don't know.
[47:33.000 --> 47:37.000]  Because I don't really see our Attorney General really doing his job.
[47:37.000 --> 47:43.000]  Because outside of telling your call screener, it's like with Obamacare or EPA, whatever.
[47:43.000 --> 47:47.000]  It just appeared to me that Greg Abbott just went into the wrong court.
[47:47.000 --> 47:54.000]  And it's the federal government that has to provide the burden of proof why they can come into Texas to ship.
[47:54.000 --> 47:57.000]  What are you talking about going into the wrong court?
[47:57.000 --> 48:02.000]  Going into federal court. He could have just went to the State Supreme Court.
[48:02.000 --> 48:04.000]  On what subject?
[48:04.000 --> 48:10.000]  On what subject? That federal government has no jurisdiction in the state of Texas to...
[48:10.000 --> 48:13.000]  Well, that's not a correct argument.
[48:13.000 --> 48:21.000]  It depends on what the issue is as to whether or not they have a particular jurisdiction.
[48:21.000 --> 48:28.000]  Well, interstate, intrastate commerce, federal government has no jurisdiction, intrastate commerce.
[48:28.000 --> 48:37.000]  Granted. But what is your argument that he didn't go for intrastate commerce versus interstate?
[48:37.000 --> 48:40.000]  Now, that's a good question.
[48:40.000 --> 48:42.000]  Well, thank you.
[48:42.000 --> 48:45.000]  You know, it just seems like...
[48:45.000 --> 48:51.000]  And, you know, when I looked at his briefs and it's like, he's just like, he just threw the case.
[48:51.000 --> 48:56.000]  He was just like pretending to, you know, say, hey, I'm looking, I'm doing something. No, he's going...
[48:56.000 --> 49:01.000]  Okay. Again, George, what case dealing with what subject?
[49:01.000 --> 49:03.000]  Obamacare.
[49:03.000 --> 49:05.000]  What about Obamacare?
[49:05.000 --> 49:13.000]  He used the wrong case law and the wrong precedent to try to make the argument.
[49:13.000 --> 49:16.000]  He was making the wrong argument before the court.
[49:16.000 --> 49:20.000]  And what argument are you saying he was making?
[49:20.000 --> 49:23.000]  Well, also...
[49:23.000 --> 49:31.000]  Well, he never brought up like Prince Mack versus the Brady bill that states are not subject to a direction of the federal government.
[49:31.000 --> 49:33.000]  They're not doing the state.
[49:33.000 --> 49:42.000]  They're trying to implement the individual mandate, which is upon the people themselves, not the state.
[49:42.000 --> 49:54.000]  They put a moratorium for a year on the full mandate for everyone, but they left the individual mandate intact.
[49:54.000 --> 50:02.000]  But the problem is you're correcting the presumption that they cannot force the individual people of the state to take it.
[50:02.000 --> 50:11.000]  And the Supreme Court already ruled on that fact, that they cannot compel anyone to participate.
[50:11.000 --> 50:15.000]  But they could force us to pay a fine.
[50:15.000 --> 50:17.000]  No, they can't do that either.
[50:17.000 --> 50:21.000]  If they can't compel you to participate, they can't fail you for refusing to participate.
[50:21.000 --> 50:25.000]  Or they can't fine you for failing to or refusing to participate.
[50:25.000 --> 50:30.000]  But the government cannot force us into a contract, basically.
[50:30.000 --> 50:33.000]  They can't compel you into commerce, period.
[50:33.000 --> 50:47.000]  Yeah, it's just the thing is, you know, it's like with these lawyers, it's more like it's just like they don't quite go to the heart of the matter.
[50:47.000 --> 50:50.000]  They sort of like go around, beat around the bush.
[50:50.000 --> 50:52.000]  Well, of course they beat around the bush.
[50:52.000 --> 50:56.000]  The system is designed to let that happen.
[50:56.000 --> 51:03.000]  And you know, it's just frustrating, you know, because, you know, it's like you don't know what to do.
[51:03.000 --> 51:08.000]  And it's like out of necessity, you know, it's like we go along with this law.
[51:08.000 --> 51:18.000]  I just say it's going to destroy us individually because we won't be able to provide for our families or our livelihoods will be destroyed.
[51:18.000 --> 51:20.000]  I got a suggestion.
[51:20.000 --> 51:23.000]  Don't volunteer.
[51:23.000 --> 51:26.000]  Well, I'm not going to volunteer.
[51:26.000 --> 51:29.000]  Well, then your problem is solved.
[51:29.000 --> 51:30.000]  Yeah.
[51:30.000 --> 51:36.000]  Also, too, I want to, you know, I know it's Saturday or a guest on another show, you know, Gotten Guns.
[51:36.000 --> 51:41.000]  And the thing is, when I sat on the jury, one thing I did not tell you that the foreman of the jury,
[51:41.000 --> 51:51.000]  assuming both the lawyers thought he would be a fellow traveler, and I was a retired JAG officer that was a foreman of the jury,
[51:51.000 --> 51:58.000]  and they thought they would be able to get the outcome they want and wind up blowing back in their faces because he said,
[51:58.000 --> 52:08.000]  he basically sat there and said, I've seen these kind of judges persecute military personnel in military towns, trying to railroad them for money.
[52:08.000 --> 52:14.000]  And that was another thing that sort of like helped contribute to the finding of not guilty.
[52:14.000 --> 52:16.000]  Okay. Well, good.
[52:16.000 --> 52:19.000]  You know, but anyway, I'll let you move on to the callers.
[52:19.000 --> 52:20.000]  Okay. Thanks, George.
[52:20.000 --> 52:21.000]  Oh, George, one other thing.
[52:21.000 --> 52:29.000]  When you call in to the call screener, folks, please do not attempt to engage the call screener in conversation with questions and things.
[52:29.000 --> 52:30.000]  They don't have time for that.
[52:30.000 --> 52:35.000]  They only have time to get you screened to get the next caller in the buffer so we can get you up on the show.
[52:35.000 --> 52:37.000]  So please just listen to what they have to say.
[52:37.000 --> 52:40.000]  Give them your name and phone number and let them get that in.
[52:40.000 --> 52:44.000]  Save your questions until I've got ahold of you or one of the other hosts has ahold of you.
[52:44.000 --> 52:45.000]  Okay?
[52:45.000 --> 52:46.000]  Thanks, George.
[52:46.000 --> 52:47.000]  All right.
[52:47.000 --> 52:50.000]  Now we're going to go to Nick in Texas.
[52:50.000 --> 52:52.000]  Nick, what can we do for you?
[52:52.000 --> 52:53.000]  That's right.
[52:53.000 --> 52:54.000]  Can you hear me?
[52:54.000 --> 52:55.000]  Yes, sir.
[52:55.000 --> 52:56.000]  All right.
[52:56.000 --> 52:57.000]  Loud and clear.
[52:57.000 --> 52:58.000]  Yeah.
[52:58.000 --> 53:01.000]  By the way, your call screener sounds just like you.
[53:01.000 --> 53:02.000]  I thought it was you.
[53:02.000 --> 53:04.000]  But anyway, yeah, I have a question.
[53:04.000 --> 53:12.000]  I'm in Texas and, you know, we have these internal border checkpoints.
[53:12.000 --> 53:15.000]  And I thought you were speaking on that a minute ago.
[53:15.000 --> 53:19.000]  And so I had a question because I go through them all the time on my surf trips.
[53:19.000 --> 53:20.000]  Okay.
[53:20.000 --> 53:33.000]  I heard that, I read, and I wish I could tell you where, that the border has been extended by definition to a 100-mile band from the coast
[53:33.000 --> 53:40.000]  and from the border of other countries and that it's like a constitution light zone.
[53:40.000 --> 53:44.000]  And so I would need to comply and to show my ID.
[53:44.000 --> 53:49.000]  No, absolutely not.
[53:49.000 --> 53:59.000]  The federal government has no authority whatsoever to declare a 100-mile interior loss of territory to a sovereign state.
[53:59.000 --> 54:01.000]  Can't do it.
[54:01.000 --> 54:03.000]  The border is the border.
[54:03.000 --> 54:07.000]  There are no constitution-free zones.
[54:07.000 --> 54:16.000]  And any public servant that's saying that needs to be a public servant sued out into utter destitution.
[54:16.000 --> 54:19.000]  That's exactly what I was thinking.
[54:19.000 --> 54:21.000]  Okay, great.
[54:21.000 --> 54:23.000]  That clears it up.
[54:23.000 --> 54:34.000]  You have the transportation script applies just as much to federal employees making these demands as it does any other state officer, okay, or any state officer.
[54:34.000 --> 54:40.000]  The federal government lacks zero authority to operate in that manner within the territorial borders.
[54:40.000 --> 54:46.000]  Remember, Texas does not consider Border Patrol to be peace officers in our territorial borders.
[54:46.000 --> 54:52.000]  And they have to be within 250 feet to even be considered near the border.
[54:52.000 --> 54:54.000]  Yeah.
[54:54.000 --> 54:55.000]  Okay.
[54:55.000 --> 54:57.000]  And that makes sense.
[54:57.000 --> 54:59.000]  Well, of course it makes sense.
[54:59.000 --> 55:05.000]  You're just hoping you'll swallow a hook line and sinker like, oh, really, I didn't know, okay.
[55:05.000 --> 55:07.000]  Yeah.
[55:07.000 --> 55:08.000]  Well, I'll tell you what.
[55:08.000 --> 55:15.000]  Next time that I go down on my SERP trip, I'm going to play things a little differently.
[55:15.000 --> 55:16.000]  Appreciate the support.
[55:16.000 --> 55:17.000]  Not a problem.
[55:17.000 --> 55:19.000]  Just it's very simple.
[55:19.000 --> 55:21.000]  What is your reasonable suspicion?
[55:21.000 --> 55:23.000]  What is your articulable probable cause?
[55:23.000 --> 55:24.000]  Do you suspect me of a crime?
[55:24.000 --> 55:25.000]  Thank you.
[55:25.000 --> 55:26.000]  Have a nice day.
[55:26.000 --> 55:27.000]  I'll be on my way.
[55:27.000 --> 55:29.000]  Well, pull into secondary.
[55:29.000 --> 55:31.000]  No, I don't feel like pulling into secondary.
[55:31.000 --> 55:32.000]  Are you a U.S. citizen?
[55:32.000 --> 55:37.000]  Well, I don't see what difference that makes to you, and I'd refuse to answer any questions from you.
[55:37.000 --> 55:38.000]  I'm not suspected of any crime.
[55:38.000 --> 55:39.000]  Am I free to go?
[55:39.000 --> 55:40.000]  Well, pull into secondary.
[55:40.000 --> 55:42.000]  No, am I free to go?
[55:42.000 --> 55:43.000]  Am I being detained?
[55:43.000 --> 55:44.000]  Am I under arrest?
[55:44.000 --> 55:45.000]  Am I free to go?
[55:45.000 --> 55:48.000]  Just keep repeating that until they get out of your way.
[55:48.000 --> 55:51.000]  You heard about that Baptist preacher.
[55:51.000 --> 56:01.000]  Yeah, so far he is only one of two people suffering that incident, while the rest of them have actually successfully got them to get out of their way and leave them alone.
[56:01.000 --> 56:08.000]  Remember, his particular incident was right when they first started this bull, okay?
[56:08.000 --> 56:20.000]  When they tried to fully muster people into accepting this, they got abusive on two people really quick, and then they got called to task on it, and they've been made to back off because of it.
[56:20.000 --> 56:23.000]  Really, so he was one of the first?
[56:23.000 --> 56:24.000]  Yes.
[56:24.000 --> 56:29.000]  So if y'all don't start standing up to these guys, they're going to think they can keep getting away with this.
[56:29.000 --> 56:35.000]  And I'm not trying to ask anybody to put themselves in harm's way beyond what they need to protect their rights.
[56:35.000 --> 56:44.000]  Believe me, I understand that you're afraid of these people in a lot of cases, folks, not you necessarily in particular, Nick, but everybody in general.
[56:44.000 --> 56:52.000]  Y'all need to understand that if they can scare you out of exercising your rights, then you don't really have them.
[56:52.000 --> 56:57.000]  Anybody who would give up freedom for security will lose both and deserves neither, they say.
[56:57.000 --> 57:02.000]  Yeah, well, Franklin did say that, and Franklin is dead on.
[57:02.000 --> 57:04.000]  Can I ask you one more question?
[57:04.000 --> 57:06.000]  Sure.
[57:06.000 --> 57:15.000]  I heard that the courts are actually, they're private corporations, and you can find them on Dun & Bradstreet.
[57:15.000 --> 57:17.000]  Have you heard anything about that?
[57:17.000 --> 57:22.000]  Well, you got to remember that these courts operate like the people that work in government.
[57:22.000 --> 57:24.000]  They operate in multiple capacities.
[57:24.000 --> 57:27.000]  They operate in a commercial capacity as an incorporated entity.
[57:27.000 --> 57:31.000]  They operate in a governmental capacity, et cetera, et cetera.
[57:31.000 --> 57:36.000]  Okay, that's why you have to make them explain which one they're coming after you under.
[57:36.000 --> 57:42.000]  If they're coming after you as the state of Texas, for instance, well, which state of Texas?
[57:42.000 --> 57:51.000]  The people, the political body, the corporate entity registered with Dun & Bradstreet, or the actual ground within the territorial borders?
[57:51.000 --> 57:57.000]  Which of those particular state of Texases are you referring to as the entity that has a grievance against me?
[57:57.000 --> 57:58.000]  Yeah.
[57:58.000 --> 57:59.000]  Hey, thanks a lot, man.
[57:59.000 --> 58:00.000]  I really appreciate it.
[58:00.000 --> 58:01.000]  You're welcome, Nick.
[58:01.000 --> 58:02.000]  Thanks for calling in.
[58:02.000 --> 58:03.000]  Take care.
[58:03.000 --> 58:04.000]  Keep it up.
[58:04.000 --> 58:05.000]  All right, you have a good one.
[58:05.000 --> 58:07.000]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
[58:07.000 --> 58:09.000]  Cody, Jennifer, I see y'all there on the board.
[58:09.000 --> 58:10.000]  Please don't go away.
[58:10.000 --> 58:13.000]  We're about to take a break here for the top of the hour.
[58:13.000 --> 58:17.000]  Folks, call in number 512-646-1984.
[58:17.000 --> 58:19.000]  I've got two callers left.
[58:19.000 --> 58:22.000]  I need some more, so let's get some up here, okay?
[58:22.000 --> 58:23.000]  Y'all hang on.
[58:23.000 --> 58:50.000]  We will be right back on the other side of this break, so y'all hang in there.
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[01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.000]  The drones will be used by a major energy company as well as to support emergency response crews
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[01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:25.000]  Congress has announced that they will officially investigate the August 6, 2011 helicopter crash that killed 30 Americans in Afghanistan,
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[01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.000]  Have you ever taken a look around at your public servants?
[01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:28.000]  Even spoken to a couple of them, stand there after they open their mouths,
[01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.000]  look them right between or right into their eyes and say,
[01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.000]  no, I don't really think you're stupid.
[01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:37.000]  I just think you have really bad luck when you try to think.
[01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.000]  Ah, too many, too soon.
[01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:42.000]  All right, now we're going to go to Cody in Texas.
[01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.000]  Cody, what can we do for you?
[01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:49.000]  Hey, how's it going? I'm a new listener, first-time caller.
[01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.000]  Thanks for taking my call.
[01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:52.000]  No problem.
[01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:56.000]  My question is, I was driving back from California in a rental car
[01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  with my cousin and one of our buddies.
[01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.000]  Wait, wait, wait. Back up. Say that again.
[01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.000]  I was driving on...
[01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:05.000]  You were what?
[01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  I was driving.
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:07.000]  You were what?
[01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:08.000]  Driving.
[01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:09.000]  You were what?
[01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.000]  Driving.
[01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.000]  Since you're a new listener, I'll cut you a break.
[01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.000]  Were you getting paid?
[01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.000]  Was I getting paid?
[01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:20.000]  Yep.
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  No.
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.000]  Then you're not driving, you're traveling.
[01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.000]  Traveling. All right, all right.
[01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:28.000]  I was traveling then.
[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.000]  In a rental car that I rented from Avis, the Long Beach Airport, Avis,
[01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:37.000]  I had just gotten off a plane, met my cousin and them there.
[01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:44.000]  We jumped in the car and started on a 24-hour straight trip here to Texas, to Austin.
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:48.000]  As we were getting into Lano County, just past through Lano,
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:54.000]  we almost got into a wreck with the person in front of us who decided to jam on their brakes
[01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:58.000]  and try to make a turn at 70 miles an hour on a two-lane highway.
[01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:03.000]  We went to the left of them into a kind of expanded middle lane
[01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  and accelerated to get in front of them.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:09.000]  As we were doing that, a cop was on the other side of the road,
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:15.000]  clocked us at speeding, pulled us over, and decided that,
[01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:21.000]  because my buddy in the back was African-American dreads, had Rasta colors on,
[01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:26.000]  I also had some armbands from the B.C. smoke shop.
[01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.000]  She said, oh, y'all must be smoking marijuana.
[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  It smells like marijuana in this car. I'm going to search.
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  I was like, sure, fine, whatever. I don't care if we don't have anything. Go ahead.
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:42.000]  So she started her search of everybody. Nothing was found on any person.
[01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:52.000]  She proceeded to search the vehicle and found the transportation unit, traveling unit.
[01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:53.000]  The conveyance?
[01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.000]  The conveyance. All right.
[01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:02.000]  So she searched the conveyance, started with the driver's side door in the side pocket.
[01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:06.000]  She reached in and pulled out something that was like a brown paper bag
[01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.000]  and had apparently something of interest to her,
[01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:15.000]  which she later informed me was some sort of controlled substance she assumed looked like cocaine.
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.000]  That's all I know still.
[01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  I have only been charged with possession of a controlled substance with I think it's four to 400 grams.
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.000]  That's what you've been charged with now because of what she found?
[01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  Correct.
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.000]  Okay. Let me ask you a question here. Let's start off.
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:39.000]  Not knowing you and not knowing how you think or anything, I need to get a gauge here.
[01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.000]  So let me ask you a question. You said this is a rental car, right?
[01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  And did you do a thorough inspection and search of the car yourself
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:54.000]  before you took possession of it from the rental agency?
[01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.000]  No, sir. Let me give you a little bit of information on that.
[01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  My mother runs a rental agency for Avis. My aunt as well does.
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:09.000]  And I've worked as a car cleaner as well as my cousins,
[01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:15.000]  and we have all numerously found drug paraphernalia or drugs themselves or everything left in cars.
[01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  And sometimes, you know, cars get half-cleaned.
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:22.000]  Okay, so which leads me to my next question.
[01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:28.000]  Knowing that what you just admitted you knew as a possibility,
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:35.000]  why in the hell would you authorize a search of a car you hadn't inspected
[01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:39.000]  and had no clue what could possibly be in it?
[01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.000]  Right. It was one in the morning. I had just woken up.
[01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.000]  I was sleeping to, you know, change shifts in Lano.
[01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.000]  Just woken up, you know, I wasn't thinking clearly.
[01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.000]  I didn't think there would be any problem.
[01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:52.000]  Are you thinking any clearer now?
[01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:57.000]  Yes, sir, I am very much, very much clearer. Excuse me.
[01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:05.000]  Okay. All right. You obviously haven't read the transportation script either, have you?
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.000]  I have not, sir.
[01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  Okay. What state was this alleged officer from?
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.000]  I was a state trooper of Texas.
[01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.000]  A Texas state trooper. Okay.
[01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:16.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  So when they came up to the car, you rolled the window all the way down, didn't you?
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:22.000]  Correct.
[01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  All right. Okay.
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:29.000]  And so they could fabricate anything they wanted as far as what they smell
[01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:33.000]  to conduct a search of the car, right?
[01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  Yes, sir, they can.
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:39.000]  Okay. And it being a rental car, you really can't tell after being in it for a little while
[01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  whether it actually smelled or not, could you?
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.000]  No, sir, especially not after just waking up.
[01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:48.000]  Uh-huh. And did you all do a nose inspection when you picked it up?
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.000]  What did it smell like when you got it?
[01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:56.000]  Honestly, three 25-year-old guys just jumped in the car in a rush to get to Texas.
[01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.000]  It really didn't take our time.
[01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  Okay. All right. So now you're wanting to know what you can do about this, right?
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:11.000]  Correct. I don't know where I stand on this. I'm kind of freaking out.
[01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.000]  Well, first off, what was the substance they actually found?
[01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.000]  They never claimed it told me.
[01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  Well, if they don't know it's actually a controlled substance,
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  how can they charge you a possession of a controlled substance?
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.000]  I have no clue.
[01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.000]  Okay. Well, here's the issue.
[01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:35.000]  First off, you don't sound like you're going to be able to do anything about this yourself,
[01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.000]  so you are going to have to get a lawyer.
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.000]  Correct.
[01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:45.000]  Okay. Second thing is you need to know what that lawyer better be doing to protect you
[01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  because the lawyer is going to try to get you to cut a deal.
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.000]  If you do, that will be with you for the rest of your life.
[01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:55.000]  You need to understand that right now, as do your buddies need to understand that,
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  because here's what's going to happen.
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:02.000]  We're going to play two against the middle.
[01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  Right.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:07.000]  The problem is each one of you is going to be in the middle at any particular time
[01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  when the other two are needed to be on the outside.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.000]  They're going to try to get you guys to eat each other.
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  Exactly.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  Okay. If all of you stick together, there's nothing they can do to make that happen
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:23.000]  because all of you have, if this actually was a rental car
[01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:27.000]  and you didn't look at it before you got in it, you all have plausible deniability.
[01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:34.000]  And the case law in Texas is very strong on the fact that even if there is drugs found in the car,
[01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  there has to be proof that the individuals knew they were present before they're culpable.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.000]  That they knew they were present before they were culpable.
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:44.000]  Okay.
[01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:45.000]  All right.
[01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.000]  Now, here's the problem.
[01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:51.000]  They were right up front with you guys in the door.
[01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:52.000]  Correct.
[01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:55.000]  Now, how well do you know your friends?
[01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:01.000]  My cousin, I've known since I was a child, and my cousin has known his buddy for two years.
[01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  I had only known him for a few months.
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:05.000]  Okay.
[01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.000]  And I'm not asking you to admit anything on the air,
[01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:12.000]  but you need to consider the habits of your cousin or yourself,
[01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:19.000]  and you need to see what your cousin knows about the habits of his friend.
[01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:24.000]  Was a friend at any time ever in the front seat?
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.000]  Yeah, he was.
[01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.000]  I think I took a little stand asleep in the back seat.
[01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.000]  Okay.
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:33.000]  So everybody had a turn at that door, right?
[01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:34.000]  Right.
[01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:41.000]  So you can't really say 100% whether or not anyone else did put anything in that door.
[01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.000]  Correct.
[01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  So either you guys hang together on this as far as we don't know it's not ours,
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:55.000]  or they're going to try to get each one of you individually for it.
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:56.000]  Right.
[01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.000]  That's what we've been told before from a few lawyers I've talked to.
[01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:03.000]  I've been getting advice from lawyers telling me that we're screwed,
[01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  we have no chance that, you know, they're not going to take it to trial or anything.
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.000]  Yeah, they're going to try to get you to cut a deal
[01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:14.000]  because they don't want to have to do any actual work for the money they're going to steal from you.
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:15.000]  Exactly.
[01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:18.000]  That's the point, okay?
[01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:25.000]  So don't – let me give you some pointers here before we go anywhere else.
[01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:29.000]  Number one, you don't ever consent to a search without a warrant.
[01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  I don't care what you're in, where you are, and who's wanting it.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:38.000]  You don't ever consent to a search without a warrant.
[01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:44.000]  Not of yourself, not of your possessions, not of a car you're in, period.
[01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  If you get in a car with multiple people, you need to make sure you all agree on that before you take off,
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.000]  or you better not be in the car with them,
[01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:57.000]  especially if they're the one in control of the car.
[01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:06.000]  Because you don't ever know what someone else may have in their car that could be used to incriminate you,
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:11.000]  even though you didn't have a clue it was there, okay?
[01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.000]  You don't ever consent to a search, period.
[01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:19.000]  You don't ever answer a cop's question.
[01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:24.000]  There's no law that requires you to answer their question, ever.
[01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.000]  And you certainly do not roll the window all the way down on the car
[01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:37.000]  so the cop can do exactly what this one did, cook up an excuse of, I smell something, okay?
[01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:51.000]  So what you need to do is go download that script from www.logosradionetwork.com forward slash T-A-O and study it for future reference.
[01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:57.000]  And make sure your friends and your cousin study it for future reference, okay?
[01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:00.000]  As of right now, the problem you have, the lawyers are right.
[01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:05.000]  You're pretty well screwed unless you can come up with some alternative here.
[01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.000]  The argument one, it's a rental car.
[01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:08.000]  We didn't know it was in there.
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:09.000]  It wasn't.
[01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:17.000]  Now, the question is, if no one knew it was there, there shouldn't be any fingerprints on the back, right?
[01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:23.000]  Well, I mean, that couldn't be totally true because there was sunflower seeds in the pocket that we've been eating.
[01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:26.000]  So it's possible that one of us touched it.
[01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:31.000]  Yeah, but again, touching it and grabbing it and holding it to put it in there.
[01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:43.000]  If the bag stuck down in there, was the bag folded or rolled up in any way when they got it?
[01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  I'm not too sure, honestly.
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:47.000]  I mean, it was very dark, you know, when she pulled it out.
[01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:51.000]  Okay, well, odds are it wasn't just wadded up and threw in there, okay?
[01:14:51.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  If it was folded or rolled up, then someone knew if there are fingerprints on the inside of the roll
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.000]  because somebody left fingerprints when they rolled it up.
[01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:08.000]  If all you did was touch it from the outside while you were fishing for your sunflower seeds,
[01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:15.000]  there wouldn't be any fingerprints belonging to anyone on the inside of the roll if it wasn't belonging to anyone in the car.
[01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  Right.
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.000]  Okay?
[01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:23.000]  So the lawyer should know enough to look at that, but he's not going to.
[01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:24.000]  Why?
[01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:30.000]  That involves him to actually do his job.
[01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  Okay?
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:36.000]  So if these things are going to get done, you're going to have to demand that they get done.
[01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:43.000]  You're going to have to demand the police produce evidence that there was fingerprints on the inside of the roll of the bag,
[01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:49.000]  not inside the bag necessarily, but inside the rolled-up side of the bag or the folded-up side of the bag.
[01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:50.000]  Okay?
[01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:57.000]  Again, those fingerprints are going to match up to somebody in the car if it belonged to somebody in the car.
[01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:05.000]  So if that person gets nailed because of those fingerprints, then the next thing that's going to happen is
[01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  is they're going to try to get that person to point fingers at the rest of you to say, did they know?
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.000]  Were they aware?
[01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:13.000]  Did they partake?
[01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:16.000]  Did they know it was in the car?
[01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:23.000]  And whether or not that person feels they can take it themselves or they're willing to sell you out for a deal,
[01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:27.000]  that's going to be a big problem.
[01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:28.000]  All right.
[01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  That is their tactic.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  Yeah, it is their tactics.
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:39.000]  And the question is, what is your cousin's friend willing to do if it was actually his?
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  Is he willing to sell you guys out to get himself a deal or what?
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.000]  That's going to become the issue here.
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  All right.
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:49.000]  Hang on just a second, Cody.
[01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.000]  We'll see what else we can get into on the other side.
[01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:52.000]  Jennifer, hang on, Swidart.
[01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  I'll get to you as quick as I can.
[01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.000]  I'll be right back after this break.
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[01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:31.000]  Alright folks, we are back.
[01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:35.000]  This is Rule of Law Radio and we are talking to Cody in Texas.
[01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:43.000]  Alright Cody, the problem here is the fact that there's not just you.
[01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:47.000]  This would be a lot easier to fight if there was only one of you involved.
[01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:53.000]  When there's multiple people involved, you have no control over what the other person says or does.
[01:19:53.000 --> 01:20:01.000]  Yep, that's what I've been told and has really had me on edge the most.
[01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:09.000]  Because I know how brutal it can be and neither one of them have ever had many run-ins with the law.
[01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:17.000]  Well again, you only can say that with any reasonable certainty of your cousin.
[01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:23.000]  What the other guy says and what may be the truth, you have no idea.
[01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.000]  That's very true.
[01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:29.000]  Okay.
[01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:39.000]  The only way that you're going to, you or whoever is not guilty in this situation or going to see any good thing come out of this is if the person,
[01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:55.000]  if it does actually belong to any of you, if that person admits it's theirs and absolutely positively denies that the other two had any knowledge of any kind about what was in there or that it was even in the car.
[01:20:55.000 --> 01:21:01.000]  So that being said, y'all need to figure out what's going on.
[01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:06.000]  Is it or is it not something that belonged to you guys?
[01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:17.000]  And if it's not, then what you need to do is stay together with the same attorney as much as possible and make him fight it on those grounds.
[01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.000]  We did not know this is a rental car.
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:24.000]  We never touched the stuff because we didn't know it was there.
[01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:35.000]  In which case, they could do the fingerprint search on the inside of the rolled up part of the bag or folded up part of the bag, even the wadded up part of the bag if that's what it was, and see that there's no fingerprints there.
[01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:39.000]  Which would indicate very clearly y'all never touched it.
[01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:43.000]  What if it was just like sitting open, you know, like just exposed to anything?
[01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:49.000]  Because the way she was holding it, it looked like she was trying to like cradle it and not let it fall.
[01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:51.000]  So I don't know if it was zipped up or not.
[01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  Like it just looked like a wad.
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.000]  What do you mean zipped up?
[01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:57.000]  Is this a plastic cellophane bag?
[01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  I saw a brown paper bag around something that looked like plastic in the middle.
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  So like really she didn't put it in my face and go, what is this?
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.000]  She had her hand like from a distance outside of the popcorn.
[01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:14.000]  Right, which is just an easy indication that she planted it as she found it.
[01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:15.000]  She could have planted it.
[01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:16.000]  Great.
[01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:17.000]  Okay.
[01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:25.000]  So absolutely another reason why you don't consent to searches.
[01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.000]  Because here's the thing.
[01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  Every single traffic stop is engineered from the beginning to be escalated to a DUI or drug bust.
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  They will do anything if they believe they can get away with it to escalate their ranks by getting those busts.
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:53.000]  When you get crossed over by one of the bad ones, this is going to be the result.
[01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  Okay?
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.000]  Okay.
[01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:01.000]  So you need to get together with everybody involved.
[01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.000]  Go talk to a lawyer together.
[01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:06.000]  Make sure that your stuff is straight.
[01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:07.000]  No lawyer will take me.
[01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:08.000]  No lawyer will take all three of us.
[01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.000]  They said they won't represent all of us together.
[01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.000]  They will only represent individual.
[01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.000]  Well, that's because they can't account for every client.
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  If one client wants to cut a deal and the rest of them don't, that creates a conflict for him.
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.000]  Okay?
[01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:31.000]  So I'm not really seeing a way around us getting one lawyer.
[01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  So is it staying true that we need to probably go see three lawyers that will work together?
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  Well, that would be good, though, again, every lawyer is going to want to do things his own particular way.
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:45.000]  What you guys need to remember is this is your case.
[01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:46.000]  It's not your lawyer's.
[01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:47.000]  Okay?
[01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:54.000]  And whatever lawyer you get, you need to make sure they fight it based on the way you want it fought.
[01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:59.000]  I'm not guilty and I want it defended that way.
[01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:00.000]  Got it?
[01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:01.000]  Right.
[01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.000]  So do your research.
[01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:10.000]  Find one that will do his job, not one that will throw you under the bus just so he can take your money easier.
[01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  Right.
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:18.000]  Right now, there's not a whole lot of ways for you to get out of this without a lot more information that you could use.
[01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:24.000]  And right now, I don't know what that could possibly be.
[01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  I don't know how to even, like, bring this up because we got the car out of impound the next day and we took it to the location or whatever.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:42.000]  And as we were cleaning it, discovered there were still things left over that were, you know, of a narcotic nature in the car.
[01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.000]  And we just disposed of it immediately.
[01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:52.000]  But, you know, the cops left it in the car still, so we didn't know and we were still driving once we got out of jail with that.
[01:24:52.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  Well, again, don't ever get in another car that you don't know what's in it, please.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:01.000]  Okay?
[01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:03.000]  You sound like a smart kid.
[01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:07.000]  Be smart all the time.
[01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  Okay?
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.000]  Can I ask one more question real quick?
[01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:11.000]  Sure.
[01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:27.000]  I got a notice from MSB, Municipal Services Bureau, that I have a $500 ticket for failure to maintain insurance that I got July 13th of 2012.
[01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  So it's now a year late and I have a warrant.
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:44.000]  Come to find out that the ticket has not my driver's license on it, it actually has for my driver's license number, it has my birth year, then the month, then the day.
[01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:51.000]  And then an address I've never lived at, a phone number I've never had, a job I've never worked.
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.000]  Is this also in Texas?
[01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:54.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:56.000]  Okay.
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:01.000]  Then what you'll need to do is you'll need to bring up that that's not you.
[01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.000]  This ticket was never issued to you.
[01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.000]  Is it your signature on it?
[01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:06.000]  No, sir.
[01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:07.000]  Okay.
[01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.000]  Well, then this ticket was never issued to you.
[01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:10.000]  Did you ever get such a ticket?
[01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:11.000]  No, sir.
[01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:13.000]  Well, then that's going to...
[01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:20.000]  The reason for the stop, sorry, the reason for the stop was picking up a known prostitute of all things.
[01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:23.000]  So the person had no insurance, apparently no license.
[01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:27.000]  Are you sure this is directed at you since they've got all the other information wrong?
[01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:30.000]  Are you sure this is directed at you at all?
[01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:31.000]  Sorry, sir.
[01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  Can you say that again?
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  I said since none of this identifies you in any way, shape, or form, are you sure this is directed at you at all?
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:39.000]  Yes, sir.
[01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.000]  It has Cody, you know, my whole first, middle, and last name.
[01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:50.000]  And that's how it's directed, but there's no actual information that is directed towards me.
[01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:53.000]  No, none of the information is correct.
[01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:57.000]  It sounds to me like somebody's fabricating citations then.
[01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  Okay.
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:04.000]  You need to get the records of everything that's in that court, copies of that citation, and the whole nine yards.
[01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:05.000]  Okay.
[01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:07.000]  Because that could be a scam.
[01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:08.000]  Okay.
[01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:09.000]  Okay.
[01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:15.000]  I was made aware that I need to go speak to a judge, and when I do, I will be arrested,
[01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:19.000]  and we'll have to bail out, and then blah, blah, blah.
[01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:22.000]  Well, you take witnesses, and you record everything that happens,
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:26.000]  or send somebody else down to that court to get a hold of the record.
[01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  Okay.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:28.000]  Okay?
[01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:29.000]  All right.
[01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:30.000]  Okay.
[01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:31.000]  All right.
[01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:32.000]  Thank you, sir.
[01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:33.000]  You're welcome.
[01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:34.000]  You have a good night.
[01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:35.000]  You, too.
[01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:36.000]  All right.
[01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:37.000]  Now we're going to go to Jennifer in Texas.
[01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.000]  Jennifer, what can we do for you?
[01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:49.000]  Look, I got a parking ticket, Class C misdemeanor, but I'm signing it because it wasn't marked right.
[01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:52.000]  What do you mean it wasn't marked right?
[01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:59.000]  Well, it didn't have correct markings of no parking, but I got the ticket.
[01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:05.000]  The cop wrote, in Georgetown, the cop wrote the ticket and left.
[01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.000]  He didn't take a photo or anything.
[01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:10.000]  So I'm not going to testify.
[01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:15.000]  I've made up my mind, and I contacted over a dozen attorneys,
[01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:19.000]  and they would not take the case of a ticket.
[01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:22.000]  No, not a parking ticket they're not going to.
[01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:23.000]  I beg your pardon?
[01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:26.000]  They're not going to take it for a parking ticket, no.
[01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:29.000]  So I'm defending myself the best I can.
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:35.000]  I've been in the law books and everything, but this is my question.
[01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:41.000]  They keep continuing my case, and the first couple of times they continued it
[01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:45.000]  because they had such a loaded docket, because they have all these kids,
[01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:49.000]  just like this kid that was just on the radio here with you.
[01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:55.000]  They get these people, and I think they line them up, and then the attorneys come in,
[01:28:55.000 --> 01:29:03.000]  and they sign up to take a case, and then they get the kids to plead guilty.
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:07.000]  And I've been sitting in that courtroom watching it go on.
[01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  The attorneys get the kids to plead guilty.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.000]  Well, of course.
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.000]  It's just really sad.
[01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.000]  But anyway, I've got to talk about me.
[01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:25.000]  I don't know what to do about all these continuances.
[01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  As I said, the first two were because of a loaded docket.
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.000]  When was the ticket issued, Jennifer?
[01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  Pardon me?
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:34.000]  When did you get the ticket?
[01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  In June of last year.
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  June of last year, as in 2012?
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:45.000]  Yeah, but I was found guilty.
[01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.000]  Okay, hang on just a minute then.
[01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:48.000]  Hang on.
[01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:52.000]  We are about to take a break.
[01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:53.000]  Mark, hang in there.
[01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  I'll get you when we get back.
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:55.000]  This is Eddie Craig.
[01:29:55.000 --> 01:30:01.000]  We'll be right back after this.
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[01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.000]  Okay, we're going to try to wrap this up with Jennifer here.
[01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.000]  All right, Jennifer, let's finish this up, shall we?
[01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:49.000]  Okay, well, I was found guilty in municipal court.
[01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:56.000]  They did not let me know about some photos that were taken after this situation.
[01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.000]  Okay, wait, you actually went to municipal court,
[01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:01.000]  or you went to an administrative hearing?
[01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:04.000]  I went to municipal court.
[01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.000]  And I didn't, first of all, I didn't know what the heck I was doing.
[01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:13.000]  Number one, I had no business being there, but I had no choice.
[01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:19.000]  And then they came up with these photos.
[01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:22.000]  I recently found out it was against the rules.
[01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:28.000]  They're not supposed to come up with photos and not give the information to you.
[01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:31.000]  Well, they don't have to give it to you unless you ask for it.
[01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:34.000]  I did. I filed discovery.
[01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  But...
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:39.000]  Did you object to them trying to bring them in?
[01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:43.000]  Yes, and the judge told me to sit down and be quiet.
[01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:46.000]  You know, there's no record.
[01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:48.000]  There's no recording in municipal court.
[01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:52.000]  Then you were not in municipal court.
[01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.000]  I was in a municipal court, really.
[01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.000]  I mean, as far as I know, I was.
[01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:00.000]  It says municipal court on all the paperwork.
[01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.000]  Again, if they're not operating...
[01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:05.000]  This is Austin, right?
[01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:06.000]  Yes.
[01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:06.000]  Okay.
[01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.000]  Austin cannot operate a court of no record.
[01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:14.000]  It must always be on the record.
[01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:17.000]  Okay?
[01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:21.000]  So you were in the administrative hearing.
[01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:22.000]  Okay, I'm sorry.
[01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  I guess I got it wrong.
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  I thought I saw municipal.
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:30.000]  Well, of course they said you had to go to the municipal court building,
[01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:32.000]  but you weren't in municipal court.
[01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:33.000]  I see.
[01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:34.000]  Okay.
[01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:38.000]  Well, what I'd like to know is how long can they do these continuances?
[01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:39.000]  The first time...
[01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:40.000]  Well, wait a minute.
[01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.000]  What are we talking about a continuance?
[01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:45.000]  If you've already been convicted, are you appealing it?
[01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  Yes.
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:47.000]  I'm sorry.
[01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:48.000]  I didn't make that clear.
[01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:49.000]  It's an appeal.
[01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  Okay.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:53.000]  To county court.
[01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:57.000]  No, if you did an administrative hearing for a parking ticket,
[01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:05.000]  then your appeal is to the actual municipal court, not the county court.
[01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  Oh, okay.
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:07.000]  I understand what you're saying.
[01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:08.000]  All right.
[01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:13.000]  Well, anyway, they keep continuing it, and I'd like to know...
[01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:19.000]  I filed a motion to dismiss, I don't know, two or three times,
[01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  and the last time they dismissed it because the cop was going on vacation.
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.000]  What do you mean they dismissed it?
[01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:30.000]  They continued it or they dismissed it?
[01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:31.000]  I'm sorry.
[01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  Wait, wait just a minute.
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:33.000]  I screwed up.
[01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:36.000]  I did not mean they dismissed it.
[01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:43.000]  They allowed the cop to take a vacation, and they continued my case.
[01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.000]  And I was very upset about that.
[01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:47.000]  Did you object to that?
[01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:52.000]  Yes, sir, strongly, and the judge didn't even read my motion.
[01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.000]  Well, the judge isn't going to read the motions.
[01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:58.000]  That would be trying to understand the legal argument of both parties,
[01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  and the judge isn't going to do that.
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:05.000]  Yeah, the prosecutor said it was in the interest of justice.
[01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.000]  Well, anyway...
[01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  Letting the cop go on vacation was the interest of justice?
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.000]  Right, and that's what I told the judge.
[01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.000]  I said, that's not within the interest of justice.
[01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.000]  Only I said it in not a very nice way,
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:23.000]  and the judge said that I could go spend the afternoon in jail if I wanted to.
[01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:28.000]  And I said, no, thank you, and I turned around and left and went and sat down.
[01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:35.000]  But anyway, I'd like to know what I could do about all these continuances.
[01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.000]  You know, I don't mean to be funny.
[01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:41.000]  I'm not trying to be funny, but I think they're going to continue this case
[01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  until Jesus comes back.
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:47.000]  And I'm at my wit's end.
[01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:49.000]  I don't know what to do about this.
[01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:56.000]  Well, when did you actually go to trial or go through the administrative portion,
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:59.000]  and then when did you actually appeal it to the municipal court?
[01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:06.000]  I went in June of last year, and then I appealed it right after it.
[01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:08.000]  I was found guilty.
[01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:11.000]  I mean, if I was on the jury, I would have found me guilty.
[01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:13.000]  They had nothing to go on.
[01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:15.000]  It wasn't the jury's fault.
[01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:25.000]  But then in September of last year, I took it to county or what did you call it?
[01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:26.000]  The municipal court.
[01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:27.000]  Yeah.
[01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:31.000]  And now it's a court of record.
[01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:34.000]  Yeah, the municipal courts in Austin are courts of record.
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.000]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:36.000]  Yeah, that's what you just said.
[01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:37.000]  I know.
[01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:38.000]  I understand.
[01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:39.000]  Thank you.
[01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:42.000]  The problem here is if they're not giving you your actual appeal,
[01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.000]  then you need to file a complaint with the attorney general's office,
[01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:53.000]  the Judicial Conduct Committee, and the United States attorney's office,
[01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:58.000]  and say that they are attempting to deny you access to the courts
[01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:01.000]  by denying your ability to appeal.
[01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.000]  Well, you know what?
[01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  I hear you.
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:05.000]  Let me ask a question.
[01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  Did you pay the fine?
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:11.000]  No, I paid the bond to bond over.
[01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  Okay.
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:15.000]  And so they had my money, and I showed up for everything.
[01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  And that's why they're delaying it?
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:19.000]  I had no choice.
[01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:20.000]  I had to pay it or they could...
[01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:23.000]  I know that, but I'm just trying to get you to understand.
[01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  That's why they're delaying it.
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.000]  The longer they can hang on to your money,
[01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:31.000]  the more interest they make off your money and the more they have to play with.
[01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:32.000]  Let me look.
[01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:38.000]  I contacted the attorney general, and the attorney general said that it's not
[01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:43.000]  within their power to do anything about this.
[01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:48.000]  Not for the case, but they can dang sure do something about them
[01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:53.000]  preventing you from getting your appeal.
[01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  She said no.
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  I talked to the attorney general's assistant.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:58.000]  Okay.
[01:39:58.000 --> 01:39:59.000]  Jennifer, believe me, you can.
[01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:02.000]  I'm not going to be able to solve this for you though online.
[01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:06.000]  Do me a favor and send me an email because there's too much here
[01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  that you're not understanding about what has to be done and why.
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  Well, of course I don't understand.
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:13.000]  I don't.
[01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:14.000]  Well, no, I understand that.
[01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:17.000]  That's why I'm saying we need to take this offline
[01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  because I'm not going to be able to finish this in four minutes.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.000]  Okay.
[01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:22.000]  I will send you an email.
[01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  I could get it off at the website.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:25.000]  Yes.
[01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:26.000]  Okay.
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:27.000]  And your name?
[01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  Which one are you?
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:29.000]  Eddie.
[01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:30.000]  You're Eddie.
[01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:31.000]  Okay.
[01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  I will do that.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:33.000]  Okay.
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:34.000]  Thank you, Eddie.
[01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:35.000]  You're welcome.
[01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  I appreciate it.
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:37.000]  All right.
[01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:39.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:40.000]  All right.
[01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:41.000]  This takes us to Mark in Texas.
[01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:42.000]  Mark, what can we do for you?
[01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:43.000]  Hey, which one are you?
[01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:44.000]  Are you Eddie?
[01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:45.000]  Most days.
[01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  Hey, I just wanted to know what you knew about as far as what is supposed to happen when
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.000]  a car is reported stolen?
[01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  Well, it depends who you report it to, the milkman or the cops?
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:08.000]  Well, I reported it to the WACO PD.
[01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:12.000]  You know, I'm in Waco myself.
[01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:20.000]  The police department was told about it when I got back into town and found out that the
[01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:21.000]  car was stolen.
[01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:30.000]  A hundred days went by and they called and said, hey, your car is out in Robeson with
[01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:36.000]  a suburb of Waco and they're going to auction it tomorrow.
[01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  Go ahead and get it.
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:45.000]  So I got no notice and I go out there and they try to extort me for like $1,300 of storage
[01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:57.000]  and so it had been there the whole time, you know, since the day I reported it.
[01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:00.000]  So I'm just wondering.
[01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:02.000]  In whose impound lot?
[01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:04.000]  The city's or the county's?
[01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:05.000]  No, it's private.
[01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:06.000]  Yeah.
[01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:10.000]  I mean, you know, private business that contracts with them.
[01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:11.000]  Okay.
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:12.000]  Question.
[01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:16.000]  How did they get a hold of the car?
[01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:30.000]  The car was stolen when I was gone and I guess they saw this crackhead driving crazy or whatever
[01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:37.000]  and they pulled him over and arrested him and impounded the car.
[01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:40.000]  Is this what the cops told you?
[01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:43.000]  That's what they told me, yeah.
[01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000]  Okay.
[01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:46.000]  All right.
[01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.000]  So the towing company didn't steal it outright?
[01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:54.000]  It was the sheriff, the sheriff, the county sheriff that made that stop.
[01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:02.000]  So, you know, Waco PD is pointing fingers at the sheriff and the sheriff points fingers
[01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  at Waco PD.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:14.000]  And, you know, to me it's if you have to report it to Waco PD, which is what I was told,
[01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:20.000]  then it seems to me that Waco PD ought to bear the responsibility to at least run the VIN number
[01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:24.000]  or the license plate number.
[01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:32.000]  Well, again, if it was your both of them have the duty to tell you if they've performed any stops
[01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:36.000]  on a particular vehicle that you're searching for because it's stolen.
[01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:40.000]  They can't say, well, automatically say, oh, well, all those are the city.
[01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  No, that's BS.
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:49.000]  If the county did it, the county's the one that's got the information on it, not the city.
[01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:51.000]  So, okay, hang on.
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:53.000]  We'll try to figure that on the other side.
[01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:54.000]  All right, folks.
[01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:55.000]  Johnny, I see you there.
[01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:56.000]  Hang on.
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[01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:23.000]  We are in our last segment, and we are talking to Mark in Texas.
[01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:25.000]  All right, Mark, what else you got?
[01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:31.000]  Because, like I say, both of them have the responsibility to inform the public
[01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:35.000]  if they've done anything with the property.
[01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:41.000]  Yeah, Ryan, as I understand it, the toll place that got the call
[01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:49.000]  from the sheriff's office that picked it up, they're required to run certain checks
[01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  on details before they auction them, and they called the sheriff's office,
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:01.000]  who called Winkle PD, and they informed the sheriff's office that,
[01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:04.000]  hey, this thing's coming up stolen.
[01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:14.000]  So I don't know, you know, I don't know who's supposed to run these checks
[01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.000]  or how they're supposed to run it.
[01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  Okay, well, who did the tow company get the car from?
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:24.000]  County or city?
[01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:26.000]  They got it from the sheriff's.
[01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.000]  Okay, then here's what I'd recommend you do.
[01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:35.000]  Please tell me you kept a log and or recordings of your phone calls to check on the car.
[01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:37.000]  Yeah, I've got a log.
[01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  Okay, first thing you do, pay to get your car back.
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:47.000]  Second thing you do, sue the county for that money.
[01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:53.000]  Okay, but the county just, you know, they're saying, well, at the time we got the call,
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:57.000]  the car was not stolen.
[01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:58.000]  Irrelevant.
[01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.000]  They knew where the car was.
[01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:05.000]  They're the one that gave the tow company authorization to take it.
[01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  Okay.
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  And then they gave you the runaround when you called to check on it,
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  thus increasing your cost to get it back.
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:26.000]  Yeah, but I mean, I didn't find this out until after the fact.
[01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:28.000]  I didn't know where the car was.
[01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:30.000]  I didn't know.
[01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:34.000]  But you said you called and checked with the sheriff's office, correct?
[01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:41.000]  No, that was after I found out that the car was sitting at this one place
[01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:45.000]  that they were fishing off in it.
[01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:47.000]  Okay, well.
[01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:52.000]  I had no idea that they had arrested anybody or that the car was found or anything.
[01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:59.000]  Okay, well, then you can try to claim it on your insurance then as your next best bet.
[01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:01.000]  Yeah, there's no insurance.
[01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:08.000]  Okay, well, then the odds of you getting the money back are going to be slim to none.
[01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:14.000]  Now, had you come back, say, you know, the day of or relatively soon thereafter
[01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:19.000]  and found it missing and called in and they gave you the runaround to do it,
[01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:22.000]  well, that would have been a whole other problem.
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:27.000]  But considering that you didn't know it was gone for an extended period of time,
[01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:29.000]  they've got it in storage racking up.
[01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.000]  They're entitled to their money for storing it,
[01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  though I don't agree with how they get it or how much they charge for it.
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.000]  No, but you don't understand.
[01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:41.000]  The day I got back in town, the day I found that it was stolen was the day I reported it stolen.
[01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:43.000]  No, I understand that.
[01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:49.000]  But my point is, is you saying that that wasn't until a long time after the fact.
[01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:51.000]  Right.
[01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:56.000]  But then, I mean, okay, so I report the car stolen.
[01:49:56.000 --> 01:50:02.000]  Is it normal in your experience as a deputy to take 100 days to say,
[01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.000]  hey, yeah, we do or don't have it?
[01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.000]  No.
[01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  For that extra time that you could have found out where the car was
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:16.000]  and they should have known to tell you where it was, that you can sue them for.
[01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:17.000]  Right, right.
[01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:24.000]  Because the co-pilot said they were only charging me, like, for 20 or 40 days,
[01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  the last 20 or 40 days.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  Well, I said the thing's been reported for 100 days stolen.
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  And so, you know, I don't feel like I should pay for that.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:39.000]  Well, again, what you feel like and what the law is going to let them have,
[01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:41.000]  that's two different things.
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.000]  I agree it's not right that you should have to pony up money
[01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:47.000]  for something that was stolen from you.
[01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:51.000]  But then again, they operate a business where they expect to get paid
[01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:54.000]  when they get called by these agencies to do these things.
[01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.000]  And I understand that, and they're right to get paid.
[01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:00.000]  But my question is, who is it?
[01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:06.000]  Okay, they're telling me I had to report the car stolen to Waco PD.
[01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.000]  So is...
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:12.000]  Are you inside the city limits where the car was stolen from?
[01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:13.000]  Yes.
[01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:14.000]  Okay.
[01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:15.000]  That's why they're saying that.
[01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.000]  They don't have original jurisdiction within the municipal limits.
[01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:22.000]  Right.
[01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:24.000]  Let's see, that's where the car was stolen.
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:29.000]  The car was stopped, I guess, outside of the city.
[01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:32.000]  Okay.
[01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:38.000]  But did you ask them if they had any contact with the car?
[01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:41.000]  When you originally spoke to them after you found out it was missing,
[01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:45.000]  did you ask them if they had any contact with the car?
[01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:51.000]  I gave them the VIN number and the, you know, the license, all that stuff,
[01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:55.000]  all the information I had on it with a list of all,
[01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  a whole bunch of other property that got stolen.
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:51:58.000]  Okay.
[01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:05.000]  That's when you reported it stolen, right?
[01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:06.000]  Yeah, more or less.
[01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:12.000]  I mean, I got them the actual paperwork a day or two after I reported the car stolen.
[01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:15.000]  Okay.
[01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  What I'm asking you is, when you got home, found it was missing,
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  who did you call first?
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:24.000]  Waco PD.
[01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:30.000]  Did you ask them if they had any contact of any kind with the car?
[01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:32.000]  Yeah, they didn't know nothing about it.
[01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:35.000]  Then you called the sheriff, right?
[01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:36.000]  I did not call the sheriff.
[01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:38.000]  You did not call the sheriff.
[01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:46.000]  Okay.
[01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:48.000]  So what then is your actual question?
[01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:50.000]  I may have called the sheriff too,
[01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  but the sheriff is deferring everything to Waco PD
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:58.000]  because they're saying the house and the car are within the city limits,
[01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.000]  so it's their jurisdiction.
[01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:01.000]  Right.
[01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.000]  But again, you should have said, well, I'm not calling to report it stolen to you.
[01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:10.000]  I'm calling to ask if you guys had any contact with it.
[01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:15.000]  Well, that was my question to them and to...
[01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:17.000]  To them who?
[01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.000]  To the sheriff's office.
[01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:24.000]  I said, look, the car is in Robinson, which is a different city.
[01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:28.000]  I said, am I supposed to check with their police department?
[01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.000]  Am I supposed to check with the Waco sheriff's department?
[01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.000]  Maybe I should check with Dallas.
[01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:36.000]  Mark, you're not getting what I'm asking.
[01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:41.000]  Who actually recovered the car from the guy that took it?
[01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:42.000]  The sheriff.
[01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:44.000]  In your county?
[01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:45.000]  Right.
[01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:46.000]  Okay.
[01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.000]  Then the only question is,
[01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:54.000]  does your department have any information from a contact with this car?
[01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:57.000]  Doesn't matter where the hell it is.
[01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:02.000]  Do you guys have any record of any contact with this car?
[01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:08.000]  If you'd asked them that and made them look, then you'd have found it a lot sooner.
[01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:14.000]  Yeah, but, I mean, if you go by that premise, then, you know, what if it got stopped in Dallas?
[01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.000]  Am I supposed to call every...
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:19.000]  If it got stopped in Dallas, then you would call what...
[01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:25.000]  First off, how would you find out that it got stopped in Dallas?
[01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:30.000]  That's my point, is that I should only have to make one report, not 10,000 reports.
[01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:32.000]  Well, I agree.
[01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:37.000]  But then again, the counties have limited resources compared to most municipalities.
[01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:43.000]  Hence the reason why, especially if you're within their limits, they send you to the municipalities.
[01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:44.000]  Right.
[01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:55.000]  The municipalities would have a much bigger network as far as other cities to talk to about it than the county would, believe it or not.
[01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:56.000]  Yeah.
[01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:57.000]  Okay.
[01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:03.000]  Then that would be Waco. But Waco didn't do their due diligence and run a check on it.
[01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:07.000]  Well, whoever didn't do what they were supposed to do is who you're going to have to sue.
[01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.000]  But you're asking me what they're supposed to do.
[01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  Hell, if anybody did what they were supposed to do, there'd be something written down telling them.
[01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:19.000]  I agree.
[01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:25.000]  Even then, you'd have to find out if they read it, which most of them don't.
[01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:32.000]  Yeah. Well, anyway, you know, I had to get the car back because they were going to – you know, they were threatening to auction it.
[01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:40.000]  And so they did come down to $500 extortion instead of the –
[01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:42.000]  Okay. Well, that's good.
[01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:47.000]  But if you want to get it back, you're going to have to figure out who to get it back from.
[01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:53.000]  And coulda, spoda, shoulda, you're going to have to figure out exactly how their process works.
[01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:58.000]  Document it. When a car gets stolen, talk to the sheriff's department.
[01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:03.000]  How do you guys handle stolen cars? Who's responsible for it?
[01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:06.000]  Then go to the city. Who's responsible for it?
[01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:13.000]  And then when you get conflicting information, obviously you're going to have to just sue everybody for being stupid.
[01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:16.000]  There's a high rate of stupidity down here.
[01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:22.000]  Well, there is everywhere. But if that's all, I got one quarter left before I have to get off here and I got two minutes.
[01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:24.000]  Knock it out. I'll talk with you. Thanks.
[01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:25.000]  Thanks, Mark.
[01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:28.000]  All right. We're going to go to Johnny in Texas. Johnny, what's up?
[01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:35.000]  Hey, Eddie. I just wanted to see if I could maybe help out the guy with the rental car if he's still listening.
[01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:36.000]  Okay.
[01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:48.000]  Back in the day, despite my having been an absolutely perfect angel, I had a few – my friends and I had, you know, a few friends with the police, just minor stuff.
[01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:52.000]  With FYI, you got two minutes, less than that actually for the time or so.
[01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:56.000]  Well, they'd always separate us and they would try to say, well, your buddy said you did this.
[01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:00.000]  And then they'd go to him and say, well, your buddy said that. You know, they just make stuff up as they go along.
[01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:01.000]  Yep.
[01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:10.000]  And best way – I found the best way to respond to that is to say, well, if he's – you know, if he's swearing that in an affidavit, you need to be looking at him for perjury and you don't need – you don't need me.
[01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  He's already made your case for you.
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:19.000]  And, you know, if they just say anything about obstruction, just, you know, keep asking him, are you asking me for information that can be used against me?
[01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:22.000]  I object, giving you any information that can be used against me.
[01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  And if he'll just stick to that over and over and over despite what they threaten and make sure his friends are all on the same page with that, it'll get him a long way.
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:44.000]  Well, I agree, absolutely, and especially since if, in fact, the bag was not theirs and none of them have fingerprints on the bag, the cops cannot prove that they knew it was present in the car.
[01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:47.000]  And that's required for culpability.
[01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:48.000]  Yep.
[01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:55.000]  Well, when the cops come and say, hey, your buddy told – you know, your buddy told on you, spilled the beans, just say, okay, well, then he's made your case. You don't need my help.
[01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.000]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:57:57.000 --> 01:58:00.000]  All right, Johnny, I appreciate the assistance there, man.
[01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:01.000]  All right, thanks.
[01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:02.000]  Yep.
[01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  All right, folks, this has been the Monday Night Rule of Law Radio Traffic Show.
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:07.000]  I have been your host, Eddie Craig.
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[01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:17.000]  Of course, we need people with their questions organized a little better at times, too.
[01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  But still, that's another point.
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