[00:00.000 --> 00:09.760] The death toll of Haiti's cholera outbreak has exceeded 500 in the wake of heavy rains [00:09.760 --> 00:12.000] caused by Hurricane Tomas. [00:12.000 --> 00:16.480] The World Health Organization warned the peak of the cholera epidemic will come earlier [00:16.480 --> 00:19.240] and faster because of Hurricane Tomas. [00:19.240 --> 00:24.360] Over half the cholera victims died before reaching hospital. [00:24.360 --> 00:29.680] Riots broke out in Oakland after former transit cop Johannes Mercel received a two-year prison [00:29.680 --> 00:33.680] sentence for the killing of unarmed black man Oscar Grant. [00:33.680 --> 00:37.840] Grant was prone and handcuffed when Mercel shot him in the back. [00:37.840 --> 00:42.920] Examiner.com reporter Gregory Boyce said the sentence reinforced the view that, quote, [00:42.920 --> 00:47.760] a black man's life in America isn't worth more than the head of cattle to the American [00:47.760 --> 00:50.640] judicial system. [00:50.640 --> 00:57.120] Two non-UN-sanctioned US drone attacks killed at least 13 people Sunday in Pakistan's northwestern [00:57.120 --> 00:58.320] tribal belt. [00:58.320 --> 01:03.720] Pakistani security officials said an unmanned US plane fired two missiles at a vehicle in [01:03.720 --> 01:07.040] north Waziristan, leaving five people dead. [01:07.040 --> 01:12.160] Hours later, another drone attack killed eight people. [01:12.160 --> 01:17.920] Chinese Vice Finance Minister Zhou Guangyao said Monday the US Federal Reserve's decision [01:17.920 --> 01:23.680] to pump $600 billion into the world economy might, quote, shock emerging markets by flooding [01:23.680 --> 01:24.880] them with capital. [01:24.880 --> 01:31.440] Zhou said this so-called quantitative easing in 2009 was justified because the global economy [01:31.440 --> 01:32.440] lacked liquidity. [01:32.440 --> 01:38.240] However, with an economic recovery now underway, new purchases of treasuries to inject funds [01:38.240 --> 01:41.840] into the financial system may be destabilizing. [01:41.840 --> 01:46.720] Zhou pointed out, quote, around the world we have $10 trillion of hot money flowing [01:46.720 --> 01:47.720] around. [01:47.720 --> 01:52.520] Chinese and European leaders have said they plan to discuss the impact of printing money [01:52.520 --> 01:59.040] at the G20 summit this week in Seoul, as well as the danger of competitive currency devaluations. [01:59.040 --> 02:06.160] 40,000 people took to the streets of Seoul Sunday protesting this week's G20 summit. [02:06.160 --> 02:11.000] South Korea has dispatched 50,000 police, over a third of the national force, to patrol [02:11.000 --> 02:14.320] the city, expecting protests to turn violent. [02:14.320 --> 02:20.160] Kim Jong-un, president of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, said, quote, repression of [02:20.160 --> 02:24.360] freedom and rights is what induces workers' violence. [02:24.360 --> 02:28.680] Protesters rallied for workers' rights and against an expected trade deal between Seoul [02:28.680 --> 02:29.800] and Washington. [02:29.800 --> 02:34.760] Chanting slogans such as Put People First, demonstrators were met with water cannons [02:34.760 --> 02:36.720] and pepper spray from the police. [02:36.720 --> 02:42.200] The activists accused the world's businesses and ruling-class elites assembled at the G20 [02:42.200 --> 02:46.880] of passing the burden of the global financial crisis onto the general public. [02:46.880 --> 02:53.880] With further mass protests expected, the exact location of the summit remains secret. [03:16.880 --> 03:23.880] Kim Jong-un, president of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, said, quote, repression of [03:46.880 --> 03:53.880] freedom and rights is what induces workers' violence. [04:16.880 --> 04:35.760] All right, bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you here on [04:35.760 --> 04:43.840] the rule of law, you bad fluoride boys and girls poisoning the water, poisoning the constituents, [04:43.840 --> 04:49.760] city council members of Austin, Texas, and other cities around the nation, poisoning [04:49.760 --> 04:54.960] your constituents, the ones who put you in office and you're trying to kill us. [04:54.960 --> 04:57.220] Bad boys and girls, we're coming after you. [04:57.220 --> 04:58.880] We're coming after you with lawsuits. [04:58.880 --> 05:03.560] We're coming after you with whatever it takes to get you to stop poisoning us. [05:03.560 --> 05:05.960] We're not going to put up with it anymore. [05:05.960 --> 05:09.800] Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, is Monday. [05:09.800 --> 05:12.520] It is November 8, 2010. [05:12.520 --> 05:14.760] Early Monday nights are traffic nights with Eddie. [05:14.760 --> 05:19.560] We're going to preempt traffic night because we've got a very special guest. [05:19.560 --> 05:21.320] Tonight's the only night we can interview him. [05:21.320 --> 05:24.640] He's leaving town on Wednesday. [05:24.640 --> 05:28.200] We're going to resume traffic night Thursday, and we'll probably get to some traffic stuff [05:28.200 --> 05:30.160] later on in this show. [05:30.160 --> 05:35.160] But for now, the beginning of the show, we have Dr. Paul Conant. [05:35.160 --> 05:39.160] He is the author of the book, The Case Against Fluoride. [05:39.160 --> 05:42.560] He's the director of the Fluoride Action Network. [05:42.560 --> 05:49.200] You can go to fluoridealert.org, and how you spell fluoride is F-L-U-O-R-I-D-E. [05:49.200 --> 05:50.200] Think of the flu. [05:50.200 --> 05:51.200] It makes you sick. [05:51.200 --> 05:52.200] Okay? [05:52.200 --> 05:55.920] So that's how you spell fluoride, fluoridealert.org. [05:55.920 --> 06:02.320] Tomorrow night, Dr. Paul Conant will be giving a speech at the Huston-Tillotson College at [06:02.320 --> 06:04.040] 7 p.m. in the church. [06:04.040 --> 06:09.480] You can find out more details about where to park and such at fluoridefreeaustin. [06:09.480 --> 06:12.840] Again, fluoride, spell it with the U first, like the flu. [06:12.840 --> 06:18.360] Now, Dr. Paul Conant gave a speech at Brave New Books this past Saturday, and he was also [06:18.360 --> 06:26.240] here on this previous Thursday speaking at our very own city council, Austin City Council, [06:26.240 --> 06:29.760] city council meeting every Thursday, and he was very ill-received. [06:29.760 --> 06:33.920] From the reports I'm hearing, he was treated outrageously and atrociously. [06:33.920 --> 06:39.040] I've heard stories of laughing and giggling and text messages and all sorts of things, [06:39.040 --> 06:41.840] and some barely a quorum even present. [06:41.840 --> 06:49.080] Okay, sorry, folks, but this is not the proper attitude and behavior for our public servants, [06:49.080 --> 06:55.000] especially concerning an issue as important as this, which in my opinion is one of the [06:55.000 --> 06:56.800] primary issues on the table here. [06:56.800 --> 07:01.880] Okay, how can we fight for freedom in the courts or any other kinds of means if we are [07:01.880 --> 07:02.880] being poisoned? [07:02.880 --> 07:09.680] A lot of people say, oh, the sheeple, they just don't care, you know, they're just lazy [07:09.680 --> 07:10.680] and stupid. [07:10.680 --> 07:12.160] Well, it's more than that. [07:12.160 --> 07:15.520] It's more than just a bad attitude on the part of the general public. [07:15.520 --> 07:19.440] They're under chemical attack, okay? [07:19.440 --> 07:23.880] Almost every major municipality is fluoridating the water. [07:23.880 --> 07:30.120] People are eating and drinking aspartame, which destroys the brain, mercury in the vaccines. [07:30.120 --> 07:31.960] People are under chemical attack. [07:31.960 --> 07:35.680] There's a reason for the apathy, and one of the biggest ones is the fluoride. [07:35.680 --> 07:39.720] In fact, we've heard callers say that one of the only chemicals more dangerous to the [07:39.720 --> 07:44.520] body than fluoride is Agent Orange, and I would like to get Dr. Connett's take on that [07:44.520 --> 07:45.520] statement. [07:45.520 --> 07:50.360] So how I would like to start the show, Dr. Connett, is I would like you to give us some [07:50.360 --> 07:55.680] of your background, you know, your credentials, and how did you get into this? [07:55.680 --> 08:00.960] Were you a pro-fluoride person at one point, and then became enlightened, and how has your [08:00.960 --> 08:02.920] crusade been going? [08:02.920 --> 08:05.840] And tell us some of the dangers of fluoride as well. [08:05.840 --> 08:10.000] So those are some opening questions for you, if you want to start. [08:10.000 --> 08:14.720] Debbie, that's quite a, Deborah, that's quite a mouthful. [08:14.720 --> 08:17.480] I got my first degree from Cambridge University. [08:17.480 --> 08:21.920] I spent my half of my life in England, half in the United States. [08:21.920 --> 08:28.200] I've, for the last 25 years, I've been involved in waste management, fighting incinerators, [08:28.200 --> 08:34.280] promoting recycling, et cetera, and I say that because that has taken me to 54 different [08:34.280 --> 08:38.480] countries and 49 different states in the USA. [08:38.480 --> 08:44.520] I say that because when my wife, 14 years ago, put a bunch of papers on my desk and [08:44.520 --> 08:49.080] said, dear, would you read these, I didn't want another issue. [08:49.080 --> 08:54.720] I'm a full-time professor teaching chemistry at St. Lawrence University, and trying to [08:54.720 --> 09:01.080] do all this waste work at weekends and during holidays, I didn't want a third issue. [09:01.080 --> 09:02.080] And I said, well, what is it? [09:02.080 --> 09:03.080] And she said, fluoridation. [09:03.080 --> 09:07.760] I said, take that away, these people are crazy. [09:07.760 --> 09:12.560] And she persuaded me, she says, look, they're going to, I didn't know our water was fluoridated, [09:12.560 --> 09:17.000] and they're going to decide whether they're going to continue tonight. [09:17.000 --> 09:21.720] Please read this, because I want to know whether I should support the continuation or oppose [09:21.720 --> 09:22.720] it. [09:22.720 --> 09:27.760] Anyway, she was very persuasive, and I did read the papers, but my intention was to get [09:27.760 --> 09:32.960] my wife off my back as soon as possible and demonstrate to her that these people opposed [09:32.960 --> 09:37.240] to fluoridation were flat earth, flaky people, just as I believed. [09:37.240 --> 09:44.480] But to my utter amazement, when I started to read, the issue of fluoridation was very [09:44.480 --> 09:47.080] serious indeed. [09:47.080 --> 09:52.120] The science was appalling in terms of demonstrating benefits. [09:52.120 --> 09:57.280] And one of the facts, Deborah, that really stood out in my mind was the fact that the [09:57.280 --> 10:05.480] level in mother's milk was so incredibly low of fluoride, so low in fact, that when a parent [10:05.480 --> 10:13.040] bottle feeds their baby in Austin, Texas, they will be giving their baby 250 times more [10:13.040 --> 10:20.080] fluoride than nature intended, 250 times higher than breast milk. [10:20.080 --> 10:21.600] And I knew there was something wrong there. [10:21.600 --> 10:26.160] When I saw that, I mean, I don't think that nature screws up very often, and I can hardly [10:26.160 --> 10:31.440] believe that a bunch of dentists somewhere knew more about what the baby needed than [10:31.440 --> 10:35.040] nature evolution, however you see it. [10:35.040 --> 10:41.440] And then I began to read on, and whilst fluoride from a chemical perspective is not very reactive, [10:41.440 --> 10:48.040] not a very reactive compound, biologically it's extremely active. [10:48.040 --> 10:53.240] And you can see why nature wouldn't want the baby to be exposed to this. [10:53.240 --> 11:00.480] So if I may jump to what we want to do here in Austin, Texas, we would obviously like [11:00.480 --> 11:04.040] to get Austin to stop fluoridating its water. [11:04.040 --> 11:09.440] That might take one or two years to convince people, educate people, get them to read our [11:09.440 --> 11:12.840] book, get them to look at the video tapes and so on. [11:12.840 --> 11:19.160] But in the interim, there's something that they can do, which is so simple, it's so rational, [11:19.160 --> 11:28.680] it's so uncontroversial because both the proponents and opponents agree, and that is to warn parents [11:28.680 --> 11:35.440] in Austin that they shouldn't use tap water to make up baby formula, they should use bottled [11:35.440 --> 11:41.740] water or if you want to really be safe, use distilled water to make up the formula to [11:41.740 --> 11:45.280] avoid exposing the baby to fluoride. [11:45.280 --> 11:51.040] Now from the promoter's point of view, from the ADA and the CDC and all those other three [11:51.040 --> 12:00.160] lettered organizations, their concern is dental ferocis. 32% of American children now have [12:00.160 --> 12:06.480] this condition in which fluoride has damaged their enamel, it's discolored their enamel [12:06.480 --> 12:08.320] or mottled the enamel. [12:08.320 --> 12:13.920] 32%, one in three American kids have now got this condition, which means that they've [12:13.920 --> 12:19.720] been overexposed to fluoride before their permanent teeth have erupted. [12:19.720 --> 12:25.120] From the proponents point of view, it's only a cosmetic effect, it doesn't affect the function [12:25.120 --> 12:29.400] of the teeth, they say, and it's not a health effect, maybe not. [12:29.400 --> 12:37.320] From our point of view, we are concerned about when fluoride is doing that to the growing [12:37.320 --> 12:42.200] tooth cells, what is it doing to the baby's bone cells, what's it doing to their brain [12:42.200 --> 12:48.880] cells, what's it doing to the thyroid gland and so on and so on and so on. [12:48.880 --> 12:55.640] The most important thing to remember here is that when the baby is born, the blood brain [12:55.640 --> 13:02.280] barrier is not fully formed, and it's not up to about half a year before that is formed. [13:02.280 --> 13:08.960] This means that fluoride can get into the brain in these first crucial few months. [13:08.960 --> 13:15.800] We now have 23 studies from around the world, China, India, Iran, and Mexico, which indicates [13:15.800 --> 13:24.000] that at moderate exposure levels, fluoride can lower the IQ of children. [13:24.000 --> 13:25.000] It's very serious. [13:25.000 --> 13:28.560] From our point of view, it's very, very serious, because they deny this. [13:28.560 --> 13:30.680] They're not doing the studies themselves. [13:30.680 --> 13:36.040] They're not doing IQ studies in America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Ireland [13:36.040 --> 13:39.640] or England or wherever else they're practicing fluoridation. [13:39.640 --> 13:45.380] It's a minority of countries, by the way, practice fluoridation, a distinct minority. [13:45.380 --> 13:51.160] Most of Europe does not fluoride in its water, but their teeth are just as good as ours. [13:51.160 --> 13:55.000] But they're not doing the studies here. [13:55.000 --> 13:59.040] If the precautionary principle doesn't apply here, it doesn't apply anywhere. [13:59.040 --> 14:01.240] But anyway, that's what we're after. [14:01.240 --> 14:08.640] City council, please instruct the water department to put a warning on the water bills of the [14:08.640 --> 14:15.240] citizens of Austin, so they know that they shouldn't use tap water to make up a formula [14:15.240 --> 14:21.200] at the very least to make sure that they've minimized the risk of their kids getting depth [14:21.200 --> 14:27.680] of ferrosis, and worse, even better, make sure that they are protecting themselves against [14:27.680 --> 14:28.680] potential risks. [14:28.680 --> 14:32.600] Well, you know, and one thing we were talking about last night at a restaurant we went out [14:32.600 --> 14:38.200] to eat is... And I am a libertarian, okay, so I'm not into government regulation at all [14:38.200 --> 14:42.960] and trying to get the government to require certain establishments to do things, but in [14:42.960 --> 14:47.200] this case it could be considered maybe a bank shot, like in a pool game. [14:47.200 --> 14:53.560] What about lobbying the city council to require all the restaurants in town to post a public [14:53.560 --> 14:58.600] warning that we are using tap water and we are not using fluoride filter, just so everyone [14:58.600 --> 14:59.600] knows. [14:59.600 --> 15:03.720] And boy, if something like that got passed, let me tell you what, the restaurant industry [15:03.720 --> 15:10.880] in this town would be enraged and they would rally and do something to be like, hey, this [15:10.880 --> 15:15.320] is going to hurt our business, maybe you guys should stop fluoridating the water. [15:15.320 --> 15:16.320] Absolutely. [15:16.320 --> 15:20.640] You know, I was in Alamo Heights last night, which is not fluoridating its water, and we [15:20.640 --> 15:26.080] went to a restaurant and I thought, what a great idea to tell the people of San Antonio [15:26.080 --> 15:31.080] that if you want to go to a restaurant that doesn't have fluoridated water, go to these [15:31.080 --> 15:36.880] towns and give a list of towns where the restaurants don't, you know, are in towns which don't [15:36.880 --> 15:38.600] have fluoridated water. [15:38.600 --> 15:43.120] And then people could vote with their feet and with their restaurants. [15:43.120 --> 15:49.480] Yeah, I think, yes, we need the businesses to tell the government. [15:49.480 --> 15:57.960] You know how much they're spending, over $700,000 a year on the chemicals to fluoridate your [15:57.960 --> 15:58.960] water. [15:58.960 --> 16:04.000] This is not even the cost of equipment, not the cost of monitoring, not the cost of promotion, [16:04.000 --> 16:11.440] but just over $700,000 a year just buying the chemicals. [16:11.440 --> 16:19.320] And you compare that with the poultry, $127,000 or whatever it is, for sickle cell patients [16:19.320 --> 16:21.280] and their families. [16:21.280 --> 16:24.440] The priorities are wrong here. [16:24.440 --> 16:29.680] And to be using all this money to put, as you pointed out, Deborah, so successfully, [16:29.680 --> 16:32.320] a poison in the drinking water. [16:32.320 --> 16:37.760] And you know, this stuff isn't even pharmaceutical-grade fluoride, it's not the same grade as they [16:37.760 --> 16:43.960] put in toothpaste, it's a hazardous waste product from the phosphate fertilizer industry. [16:43.960 --> 16:46.600] Yes, I want to get into that on the other side. 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[19:53.200 --> 19:58.320] As we were starting to discuss before we went on the break, folks, this is not sodium fluoride, [19:58.320 --> 20:07.960] this is not stannous fluoride, it is hexafluorosalicic acid and it is a toxic waste from the phosphorus [20:07.960 --> 20:16.080] fertilizer industry and according to federal law and EPA regulations, it has to be disposed [20:16.080 --> 20:24.480] of in a very careful and precise manner as a toxic waste and it has to have the red triangle [20:24.480 --> 20:30.040] with the exclamation point warning sign on the trucks as they're driving down the highway [20:30.040 --> 20:37.560] with it and that whole deal, it's extremely toxic waste and however, wait a minute, wait [20:37.560 --> 20:43.320] a minute Randy, however, there is some federal law where there's a loophole in the federal [20:43.320 --> 20:49.200] law that if they package it up as a product and sell it, well then all of a sudden it's [20:49.200 --> 20:51.200] not toxic waste anymore. [20:51.200 --> 21:00.640] Well they dispose of it very carefully, they very carefully drip it into our drinking water. [21:00.640 --> 21:07.280] That's not the kind of disposal that the EPA standards dictate so Dr. Paul, if you would [21:07.280 --> 21:11.760] please discuss where does this stuff come from anyway? [21:11.760 --> 21:17.120] Okay, yes, dentists won't believe what I'm about to say but it's absolutely true. [21:17.120 --> 21:23.080] In the phosphate fertilizer industry, they dig up this phosphate rock which is insoluble [21:23.080 --> 21:28.480] in water and to use it as fertilizer, you've got to make it soluble and the way they do [21:28.480 --> 21:35.320] that is to heat it up with sulfuric acid and in the process, they drive off two very toxic [21:35.320 --> 21:43.080] gases, hydrogen fluoride and silicon tetrafluoride and for about a hundred years, these gases [21:43.080 --> 21:50.040] were decimating the local vegetation and crippling cattle that grazed on the grass where this [21:50.040 --> 21:59.200] stuff was falling and eventually, they forced the industry to put on wet sprayers, wet scrubbers [21:59.200 --> 22:07.560] which consisted of a spray of water and this water converts these toxic gases into hexafluorosilicic [22:07.560 --> 22:08.560] acid. [22:08.560 --> 22:14.960] Now you're absolutely right, they can't dump this stuff into the sea by international law. [22:14.960 --> 22:18.240] They can't dump it locally because it's too concentrated. [22:18.240 --> 22:23.040] It would cost them an arm and a leg to get rid of this officially to a hazardous waste [22:23.040 --> 22:32.560] site but if someone buys it from them, this magically becomes a product and it's no longer [22:32.560 --> 22:39.160] regulated as hazardous waste and the people that are buying it as a product are public [22:39.160 --> 22:43.880] water utilities and it's amazing, I'll tell you an amusing story. [22:43.880 --> 22:49.500] In Johnstown, New York, they fluoridated the water without telling the public. [22:49.500 --> 22:54.440] When the people found out, they were furious and the council had to stop fluoridating the [22:54.440 --> 23:01.480] water and all of a sudden, they said, oh, we've got to get rid of these barrels of hexafluorosilicic [23:01.480 --> 23:02.480] acid. [23:02.480 --> 23:06.820] We've got to get rid of them within a month because within a month, they revert to becoming [23:06.820 --> 23:11.760] hazardous waste and it will cost us a fortune to get rid of them so we've got to find a [23:11.760 --> 23:16.200] place to use this stuff up otherwise, it's going to cost us a lot of money. [23:16.200 --> 23:22.560] Yeah, it's really funny how just a few days past, how they sell it and it's not a toxic [23:22.560 --> 23:26.040] waste anymore but if it sits around, then all of a sudden, it's a toxic waste again. [23:26.040 --> 23:27.840] Isn't that bizarre? [23:27.840 --> 23:33.040] It is bizarre and of course, the thing that's scary is that this isn't just pure hexafluorosilicic [23:33.040 --> 23:34.040] acid. [23:34.040 --> 23:38.680] This has got all kinds of junk in it including lead and arsenic, mercury and all kinds of [23:38.680 --> 23:39.800] other nasties. [23:39.800 --> 23:45.120] In fact, they mined the same rock in Florida for uranium. [23:45.120 --> 23:51.240] You've also got trace amounts of radioactive isotopes. [23:51.240 --> 23:57.320] If someone wrote the script for Monty Python, nobody would believe it but this is our government [23:57.320 --> 24:00.320] at work here. [24:00.320 --> 24:04.520] Are you still there? [24:04.520 --> 24:13.120] Yeah, it makes one real and I was saying on the air a few days ago before the election, [24:13.120 --> 24:20.440] there was a bond that went up, an Agenda 21 bond for that matter concerning spending something [24:20.440 --> 24:28.040] like $90 billion on installing a bunch of bike lanes all around town. [24:28.040 --> 24:36.760] I said, I am not voting for this city to borrow or spend another dime until they stop poisoning [24:36.760 --> 24:41.200] us because it costs over a million dollars a year to do this. [24:41.200 --> 24:44.040] There's a million bucks for you, city of Austin. [24:44.040 --> 24:45.040] Stop poisoning us. [24:45.040 --> 24:46.040] It's very simple. [24:46.040 --> 24:52.160] Here's a legal angle for you. [24:52.160 --> 25:01.080] The EPA has an MCL, maximum contaminant level and a maximum contaminant level goal, MCLG. [25:01.080 --> 25:08.520] For arsenic, the MCLG, the maximum contaminant level goal which is the ideal scientific standard [25:08.520 --> 25:09.520] for safety. [25:09.520 --> 25:13.680] Arsenic is supposed to be protective and the reason it's set at zero is because it's a [25:13.680 --> 25:21.800] known human carcinogen but because arsenic occurs naturally and because it's cost prohibitive [25:21.800 --> 25:29.160] to get it down to zero, they've had to set a compromise level of 10 parts per billion [25:29.160 --> 25:33.360] so that's the MCL which is the maximum contaminant level. [25:33.360 --> 25:38.440] That's the legally enforceable federal standard. [25:38.440 --> 25:43.440] If you're over 10 parts per billion arsenic, then you have to remove it down to 10 parts [25:43.440 --> 25:44.440] per billion. [25:44.440 --> 25:52.120] Now, we know that this fluoridating chemical, hexafluorosilic acid is introducing arsenic [25:52.120 --> 26:00.600] and it's clear simple by simple logic that then you are adding arsenic above the MCLG. [26:00.600 --> 26:10.840] Now, the question is, okay, so they say, look, we haven't reached the MCL so it's okay but [26:10.840 --> 26:18.760] hey, wait a moment, the MCL is an economic compromise for dealing with how much you've [26:18.760 --> 26:21.200] got to remove it too. [26:21.200 --> 26:28.360] It should not be a license to add over what we consider to be the safe level of arsenic [26:28.360 --> 26:29.560] which is zero. [26:29.560 --> 26:35.680] In other words, we offer a reduction in a small amount of tooth decay, we are increasing [26:35.680 --> 26:38.840] the cancer risk of our population. [26:38.840 --> 26:48.320] Right, now obviously the fertilizer industry and I've also heard that some of this toxic [26:48.320 --> 26:54.080] fluoride, whatever form it's in, it comes from the aluminum industry. [26:54.080 --> 27:00.040] Obviously, these are the industries that have paid off the dental association, the American [27:00.040 --> 27:06.960] Dental Association, the American Medical Association to promote this stuff to the general public [27:06.960 --> 27:08.600] as if it was healthy. [27:08.600 --> 27:15.200] Now, I am wondering how much of a kickback is it possible that even our municipalities [27:15.200 --> 27:19.280] are getting from these industries on this issue? [27:19.280 --> 27:22.440] I mean, what is the motivation here? [27:22.440 --> 27:24.040] Well, that's a good question. [27:24.040 --> 27:28.920] We left the motivation to the last chapter in our book because it's awfully difficult [27:28.920 --> 27:35.600] to get inside people's heads to find out their motivations and we probably raise more questions [27:35.600 --> 27:38.040] than answers in that last chapter. [27:38.040 --> 27:43.760] I personally do not think there's enough money to go to the phosphate fertilizer industry [27:43.760 --> 27:50.640] to be the tail that wags the dog of the Department of Health and Human Services and the American [27:50.640 --> 27:53.600] Dental Association to keep this thing going. [27:53.600 --> 27:58.640] I do believe that the aluminum industry was involved in the beginning of fluoridation [27:58.640 --> 28:04.960] because they found it a useful tool to change the image of a pollutant which had caused [28:04.960 --> 28:11.800] more damage to agriculture than any other pollutant to this very apparently benign substance [28:11.800 --> 28:16.480] that was safe enough to put in our drinking water and put in our kiddies' teeth. [28:16.480 --> 28:21.120] So I think there was some industrial involvement at the beginning and that's been documented [28:21.120 --> 28:25.360] by Chris Bryson in a wonderful book called The Fluoride Deception. [28:25.360 --> 28:31.160] But I think the thing, the motivation to keep this going today is a combination of two things. [28:31.160 --> 28:34.040] It's credibility and liability. [28:34.040 --> 28:42.560] I think the ADA is scared stiff of the liabilities involved if any of the health effects stick. [28:42.560 --> 28:46.400] We know it causes one in three kids that got dental phorosis. [28:46.400 --> 28:49.800] They have made this gross assumption that whilst you're damaging the teeth, you're not [28:49.800 --> 28:54.560] damaging any other tissue in the child's body and I think we're getting evidence now that [28:54.560 --> 28:59.240] that's not the case, that that was a false gamble, a reckless gamble. [28:59.240 --> 29:05.240] And for the US Public Health Service who are trying to do other things, losing their credibility [29:05.240 --> 29:08.960] is something they're very frightened of doing. [29:08.960 --> 29:15.480] Public health policy requires the public's trust and for them to admit now that this [29:15.480 --> 29:20.520] was all a ghastly mistake is very difficult for them, you know as Bill Hersey, Dr. Bill [29:20.520 --> 29:25.320] Hersey who used to work for the Environmental Protection Agency said, they're riding a [29:25.320 --> 29:28.840] tiger and don't know how to get off. [29:28.840 --> 29:34.000] So that's where I would look into what it means to the Department of Health and Human [29:34.000 --> 29:38.440] Services to lose credibility at this stage. [29:38.440 --> 29:43.480] Right, well they're setting themselves up for a lawsuit whether they admit that it's [29:43.480 --> 29:45.160] hazardous or not. [29:45.160 --> 29:50.360] Alright, Dr. Conant, when we get back on the other side, I want to discuss some of the [29:50.360 --> 29:56.760] things that fluoride actually does to the body and we'll also be talking about how [29:56.760 --> 30:00.240] well known is it in the public what the dangers are. [30:00.240 --> 30:03.680] Top ten reasons to question the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing, reason number [30:03.680 --> 30:07.600] five, as witnessed by millions of viewers, the rescue efforts were interrupted several [30:07.600 --> 30:10.360] times due to the presence of other explosives. [30:10.360 --> 30:14.160] Government log entries indicate and witnesses report that after the initial devastating [30:14.160 --> 30:19.120] blast, a bomb complete with timer was discovered and removed from wreckage by the bomb squad. [30:19.120 --> 30:22.680] Yet we are told it's all due to baseless bomb scares or other contrivances. [30:22.680 --> 30:27.000] So while officials try to sort out their stories, all we ask is who planted these bombs and [30:27.000 --> 30:28.920] why is the government lying about them? [30:28.920 --> 30:32.520] For more information, go to okcbombingtruth.com. [30:32.520 --> 30:37.840] Beware the photocopier, it could be reading, recording and even passing judgments on the [30:37.840 --> 30:38.840] documents you copied. [30:38.840 --> 30:43.280] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back in just a moment to tell you about new big [30:43.280 --> 30:47.880] brother office equipment that could be monitoring your every word. [30:47.880 --> 30:49.480] Privacy is under attack. [30:49.480 --> 30:53.080] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [30:53.080 --> 30:57.840] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [30:57.840 --> 31:02.880] So protect your rights, say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. 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[31:40.400 --> 31:45.800] When linked with user IDs, detailed digital dossiers could catalog everything you print. [31:45.800 --> 31:50.000] These systems are geared for office use, but if we don't say, I'll know now, they could [31:50.000 --> 31:54.520] easily find their way into libraries, local copy shops and even our own homes. [31:54.520 --> 31:56.400] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. [31:56.400 --> 31:59.000] More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [31:59.000 --> 32:16.360] Yeah, I got a warrant, and I'm going to solve them, to the government them, prosecute them. [32:16.360 --> 32:17.360] Okay. [32:17.360 --> 32:18.360] All set. [32:18.360 --> 32:37.360] I need a prosecutor to come and help me, prosecute them wicked leader, you see. [32:37.360 --> 32:40.360] The mama heard a raw liar, them tell me. [32:40.360 --> 32:42.360] Them a liar, not tell see stories. [32:42.360 --> 32:45.360] Me not believe, me say what them tell me. [32:45.360 --> 32:48.360] So how the hell he get the presidency? [32:48.360 --> 32:49.360] That's why me have a warrant for him. [32:49.360 --> 32:50.360] Everybody listen carefully. [32:50.360 --> 32:51.360] Listen to the word, don't let the issues pass you. [32:51.360 --> 32:52.360] There seems a rest for Mr. Bush. [32:52.360 --> 32:53.360] My warrant on good chain. [32:53.360 --> 32:54.360] There seems a rest for Mr. Bush. [32:54.360 --> 32:55.360] My warrant on good chain. [32:55.360 --> 32:56.360] There seems a rest for Mr. Bush. [32:56.360 --> 32:57.360] My warrant on good chain. [32:57.360 --> 33:20.360] There seems a rest for Mr. Bush. [33:20.360 --> 33:21.360] Okay. [33:21.360 --> 33:22.360] We are back. [33:22.360 --> 33:27.360] Speaking with Dr. Paul Connett from the Fluoride Action Network. [33:27.360 --> 33:30.360] He is actually the director of the Fluoride Action Network. [33:30.360 --> 33:32.360] That's fluoridealert.org. [33:32.360 --> 33:38.360] And folks out there, if you don't know how to spell fluoride, the U comes first, F-L-U-O-R-I-D-E. [33:38.360 --> 33:39.360] Just think of the flu. [33:39.360 --> 33:40.360] It makes you sick. [33:40.360 --> 33:47.360] So speaking of making people sick, we are going to discuss now just what the adverse [33:47.360 --> 33:52.360] health effects are of this very dangerous toxic chemical. [33:52.360 --> 33:53.360] Please go ahead, Dr. Connett. [33:53.360 --> 33:55.360] Well, the first thing is not debated. [33:55.360 --> 33:58.360] And that is that it causes dental phorosis. [33:58.360 --> 34:04.360] And now one in three children in the United States have this damage to the tooth enamel. [34:04.360 --> 34:05.360] Yeah. [34:05.360 --> 34:10.360] And I find that very ironic considering that they promote this garbage as a means of preserving [34:10.360 --> 34:11.360] your teeth. [34:11.360 --> 34:12.360] Exactly. [34:12.360 --> 34:13.360] Exactly. [34:13.360 --> 34:15.360] But secondly is damage to the bone. [34:15.360 --> 34:20.360] There's a study from Mexico which shows the bone fractures in children increase with the [34:20.360 --> 34:22.360] severity of dental phorosis. [34:22.360 --> 34:27.360] So the more fluoride that a kid gets before their permanent teeth have erupted, the more [34:27.360 --> 34:33.360] severe the dental phorosis, the more frequent the bone fractures. [34:33.360 --> 34:37.360] We haven't bothered to even attempt to reproduce that in the United States. [34:37.360 --> 34:43.360] The other thing that we know is that fluoride's first impact on adult bone is just like arthritis. [34:43.360 --> 34:47.360] Pains in the joints, stiffness of joints, pains in the bone. [34:47.360 --> 34:50.360] We have one in three American adults with arthritis. [34:50.360 --> 34:51.360] It's increasing. [34:51.360 --> 34:55.360] But nobody's bothered to check to see if fluoridation is related to arthritis. [34:55.360 --> 35:00.360] As the fluoride continues to accumulate in the bone, it makes the bones more brittle. [35:00.360 --> 35:02.360] We're concerned about hip fractures. [35:02.360 --> 35:09.360] A study from China indicates that hip fractures may increase above three milligrams per day. [35:09.360 --> 35:15.360] That's simply drinking three liters of water in the United States could increase your hip [35:15.360 --> 35:16.360] fracture rates. [35:16.360 --> 35:21.360] But the one that really concerns me is the fact that when the baby is born, the blood [35:21.360 --> 35:26.360] brain barrier is not fully formed, and we have these 23 human studies which shows a [35:26.360 --> 35:30.360] lowering of IQ at fairly low levels of fluoride. [35:30.360 --> 35:35.360] One study from China, and I actually visited China to look at the villages where this study [35:35.360 --> 35:43.360] was done, and they estimate that fluoride lowers IQ at 1.9 parts per million. [35:43.360 --> 35:47.360] And we fluoridate the water at about one part per million. [35:47.360 --> 35:53.360] So there is absolutely no margin of safety for our children. [35:53.360 --> 36:01.360] If you're getting a lowering of IQ in, say, 300 children, that's 1.9 milligrams per liter. [36:01.360 --> 36:09.360] So if children drink one liter of water, we're talking about 1.9 milligrams per day. [36:09.360 --> 36:13.360] What a toxicologist would normally do with that number is to say, well, let's divide [36:13.360 --> 36:18.360] it by 10 so that we can protect everyone in society. [36:18.360 --> 36:27.360] So 0.19 milligrams per day would be the so-called safe level, which means that a child drinking [36:27.360 --> 36:32.360] half a glass of water a day in those early years could be lowering its IQ. [36:32.360 --> 36:35.360] I mean, it's so preposterous. [36:35.360 --> 36:42.360] It just indicates to you the mad world that we've got into, that the dentists are controlling [36:42.360 --> 36:48.360] this debate as if the teeth were the most important tissue in the body. [36:48.360 --> 36:51.360] You ask any parent, what's the most important? [36:51.360 --> 36:56.360] Which is more important to protect, your children's teeth or your children's brains? [36:56.360 --> 36:59.360] And I think most people would say their brains. [36:59.360 --> 37:05.360] And yet, because the dentists are running this show, not only the ADA, by the way, but [37:05.360 --> 37:11.360] the CDC, when you hear from the CDC, you're not hearing from 20,000 scientists at the [37:11.360 --> 37:12.360] CDC. [37:12.360 --> 37:16.360] You're hearing from 30 people called the Oral Health Division. [37:16.360 --> 37:19.360] And they're all essentially dentally trained. [37:19.360 --> 37:20.360] And that brings another thing. [37:20.360 --> 37:26.360] When a dentist goes before the public, before the council and says fluoridation is safe [37:26.360 --> 37:29.360] and effective, you say, stop, stop, stop, stop right there. [37:29.360 --> 37:30.360] Stop right there. [37:30.360 --> 37:31.360] You're a dentist. [37:31.360 --> 37:36.360] You can talk to us about teeth, but you have no qualification to talk to us about the brain, [37:36.360 --> 37:40.360] the bones, the thyroid, the pineal gland, the kidney. [37:40.360 --> 37:42.360] On that, you do not know. [37:42.360 --> 37:47.360] So you have no authority, no professional credentials to tell us that fluoridation is [37:47.360 --> 37:48.360] safe. [37:48.360 --> 37:51.360] But they've been getting away with this nonsense for 60 years. [37:51.360 --> 37:56.360] And I'm so pleased that people like yourself, Deborah, are getting angry about this because [37:56.360 --> 38:01.360] we should be angry about it, not just because of the science says it doesn't work, it's [38:01.360 --> 38:07.360] not effective, and that it's not safe, but because it's always being a violation of [38:07.360 --> 38:12.360] the individual's right to informed consent to medication. [38:12.360 --> 38:18.360] If you go to the American Medical Association's web page, they define what informed consent [38:18.360 --> 38:19.360] is. [38:19.360 --> 38:23.360] It's a very important medical principle. [38:23.360 --> 38:28.360] That is a doctor must tell you what the side effects are and what the benefits of a drug [38:28.360 --> 38:29.360] are. [38:29.360 --> 38:33.360] And then having told that, you have to make your mind up whether you want to take that [38:33.360 --> 38:34.360] drug or not. [38:34.360 --> 38:36.360] They can't force it upon you. [38:36.360 --> 38:42.360] So when you fluoridate the water, then you're allowing either your neighbor or the local [38:42.360 --> 38:48.360] decision makers to do to everyone what an individual doctor can do to no one. [38:48.360 --> 38:54.360] And this is such a preposterous medical practice, so preposterous, in fact, that since 1945, [38:54.360 --> 39:01.360] they have not used for any other medicine, the public water supply, to deliver that medicine [39:01.360 --> 39:03.360] to people for obvious reasons. [39:03.360 --> 39:07.360] Once you put a medicine into the water, you can't control the dose. [39:07.360 --> 39:10.360] Once you put it into the water, you can't control who gets it. [39:10.360 --> 39:15.360] It goes to everyone, very young, very old, very sick, poor people with poor nutrition. [39:15.360 --> 39:18.360] There's no individual supervision. [39:18.360 --> 39:23.360] And the Food and Drug Administration that should be collecting side effects is completely [39:23.360 --> 39:25.360] asleep at the wheel. [39:25.360 --> 39:31.360] They've never regulated fluoride for ingestion, even though it's the most prescribed medication [39:31.360 --> 39:33.360] in U.S. history. [39:33.360 --> 39:37.360] They do, however, and talk about this and that, here comes Monty Python again. [39:37.360 --> 39:38.360] You ready? [39:38.360 --> 39:39.360] Monty Python. [39:39.360 --> 39:44.360] FDA does regulate toothpaste, and they say only use a pea-sized amount. [39:44.360 --> 39:49.360] And if you should accidentally swallow a pea-sized amount, contact, get medical attention, or [39:49.360 --> 39:52.360] contact a poison control center. [39:52.360 --> 39:53.360] Well, there you go. [39:53.360 --> 39:58.360] And, you know, talking about the government putting this stuff in the water, it doesn't [39:58.360 --> 39:59.360] stop there. [39:59.360 --> 40:02.360] They want to put lithium in the water, and some places they already are. [40:02.360 --> 40:07.360] They want to put psychotropic drugs in the water to calm everyone down, so they do not [40:07.360 --> 40:08.360] be so angry. [40:08.360 --> 40:09.360] Don't be so uptight. [40:09.360 --> 40:10.360] Don't be so strut. [40:10.360 --> 40:11.360] No. [40:11.360 --> 40:13.360] Anger is a proper response, people. [40:13.360 --> 40:17.360] You should be very angry and upset and jumping up and down about that. [40:17.360 --> 40:19.360] That is a survival reaction. [40:19.360 --> 40:24.360] If you're not angry about this, then you're just going to the grave over this. [40:24.360 --> 40:25.360] Okay? [40:25.360 --> 40:30.360] And speaking of the government, this goes down to the proper role of government. [40:30.360 --> 40:36.360] It is not the role, as a libertarian, I will say right now, it is not the role of government [40:36.360 --> 40:42.360] to decide what drugs I should be putting in my body and to have it forced off on me. [40:42.360 --> 40:45.360] Now, I use a fluoride filter. [40:45.360 --> 40:49.360] I use a Berkey fluoride filter, the PF2 filters, to filter the drinking water. [40:49.360 --> 40:54.360] But it looks like this is coming down from the research that I've seen that it absorbs [40:54.360 --> 40:59.360] through your skin too, so we all need to be having fluoride filters in our showers also. [40:59.360 --> 41:00.360] It's impossible. [41:00.360 --> 41:01.360] It's impossible to protect yourself. [41:01.360 --> 41:05.360] The only way to protect yourself in this case is to get yourself educated. [41:05.360 --> 41:08.360] That's why we wrote the book, The Case Against Fluoride. [41:08.360 --> 41:10.360] Get yourself organized. [41:10.360 --> 41:14.360] Get yourself angry and put the pressure on the politicians. [41:14.360 --> 41:20.360] The good news about this issue is that this is one environmental health issue which is [41:20.360 --> 41:27.360] as easy to end as turning off a tap, the spigot at the waterworks, if we have the political [41:27.360 --> 41:28.360] will. [41:28.360 --> 41:33.360] But we're only going to get the political will to turn off that tap if enough people [41:33.360 --> 41:37.360] get educated, organized, and angry. [41:37.360 --> 41:42.360] Now, Dr. Conant, speaking of moving into the political realm and the action, what kind [41:42.360 --> 41:49.360] of actions and remedies we can take here, can you give us an idea of how mainstream [41:49.360 --> 41:51.360] is it these days? [41:51.360 --> 41:53.360] I don't really monitor the mainstream media that much anymore. [41:53.360 --> 41:59.360] I call it lame stream media, but how much in the mainstream is it now that this stuff [41:59.360 --> 42:02.360] is entirely toxic and deadly? [42:02.360 --> 42:05.360] It's getting there very, very slowly. [42:05.360 --> 42:09.360] Time magazine mentioned that fluoride was a neurotoxin when they were talking about [42:09.360 --> 42:11.360] chemicals in the house. [42:11.360 --> 42:16.360] The Scientific American actually reviewed the National Research Council report from [42:16.360 --> 42:19.360] 2006. [42:19.360 --> 42:24.360] The Time magazine also covered a fluoridation vote in Bellingham, Washington state a few [42:24.360 --> 42:28.360] years ago, but it's few and far between. [42:28.360 --> 42:32.360] Most journalists won't get near this issue with the barge pole. [42:32.360 --> 42:38.360] They're frightened of being called crazy, you know, Dr. Strangelove, and all that nonsense. [42:38.360 --> 42:40.360] That's why we wrote this book. [42:40.360 --> 42:46.360] The scientific case against fluoridation is overwhelming. [42:46.360 --> 42:49.360] In fact, you know, they even admitted it. [42:49.360 --> 42:55.360] You know, in 1999, the chief promoter of fluoridation in this country, the Center for Disease Control, [42:55.360 --> 43:02.360] or rather the oral health division, 30 deadly trained people, said, we got the mechanism [43:02.360 --> 43:04.360] of fluoride benefit wrong. [43:04.360 --> 43:06.360] For 50 years, we got it wrong. [43:06.360 --> 43:13.360] We thought the fluoride had to, the baby had to get the fluoride before the teeth had erupted [43:13.360 --> 43:19.360] so that the fluoride accumulated in the enamel and made it more resistant to acid attack [43:19.360 --> 43:22.360] from bacteria rotting down sugar. [43:22.360 --> 43:24.360] Whoops, we were wrong. [43:24.360 --> 43:30.360] Now, epidemiological and laboratory studies indicate that not enough fluoride accumulates [43:30.360 --> 43:35.360] in the enamel before the teeth erupted, and its major benefits are topical. [43:35.360 --> 43:40.360] And at that point, they should have stopped fluoridation because if you want topical fluoride, [43:40.360 --> 43:42.360] you can get it from fluoridated toothpaste. [43:42.360 --> 43:43.360] Well, yes, absolutely. [43:43.360 --> 43:44.360] We're about to go to break. [43:44.360 --> 43:48.360] And it's my understanding, too, one of the first entities that practiced fluoridating water [43:48.360 --> 43:56.360] was Hitler in the prison camps to keep the prisoners, the Jews, subdued so they wouldn't riot. [43:56.360 --> 43:58.360] So that ought to tell you something, folks. [43:58.360 --> 44:05.360] We'll be right back. [44:28.360 --> 44:35.360] We'll be right back. [44:58.360 --> 45:05.360] We'll be right back. [45:28.360 --> 45:35.360] We'll be right back. [45:35.360 --> 45:42.360] We'll be right back. [45:42.360 --> 45:58.360] This powder supplement is everything you'd want in a product, and it's all natural. [45:58.360 --> 46:18.360] We'll leave in supplements again. [46:18.360 --> 46:20.360] Okay, folks, we are back. [46:20.360 --> 46:27.360] We're speaking with Dr. Paul Connett, author of The Case Against Fluoride. [46:27.360 --> 46:32.360] He is the director of the Fluoride Action Network, fluoridealert.org. [46:32.360 --> 46:35.360] You spell that F-L-U like the flu. [46:35.360 --> 46:37.360] Makes you sick. [46:37.360 --> 46:44.360] And we are discussing at this point remedies now, actions, what we can do, what they are doing. [46:44.360 --> 46:48.360] And Dr. Connett, your action network, your fluoride action network, [46:48.360 --> 46:55.360] y'all have chosen three cities in North America, two in the U.S., one in Canada. [46:55.360 --> 47:00.360] Why don't you tell us about those three cities that as an entity, [47:00.360 --> 47:04.360] as an overall coordinated nationwide effort, [47:04.360 --> 47:08.360] you're targeting these three specific cities to get the fluoride out of the water [47:08.360 --> 47:11.360] so that your efforts aren't all spread thin like peanut butter. [47:11.360 --> 47:14.360] So tell us these three cities, why you've chosen them, [47:14.360 --> 47:17.360] and what you have been doing concerning these cities. [47:17.360 --> 47:22.360] Okay, what it came about when I was interviewed by Dr. McCollough, a health journalist, [47:22.360 --> 47:25.360] who has a reading list of 1.6 million people. [47:25.360 --> 47:28.360] And he said, I don't think we're going to stop this at the federal level, [47:28.360 --> 47:31.360] but we need to beat this one community at a time. [47:31.360 --> 47:38.360] What three communities would you suggest that we start with to establish a precedent? [47:38.360 --> 47:45.360] And I said San Diego because they're going to be fluoridated in a few weeks' time unless they do something. [47:45.360 --> 47:48.360] They've already voted against it twice. [47:48.360 --> 47:50.360] And so we've got good people there. [47:50.360 --> 47:53.360] We've got a good journalist there. [47:53.360 --> 47:56.360] San Diego is a real chance to keeping it out. [47:56.360 --> 48:03.360] And then secondly, I said Austin, Texas, because they're very good people organizing here. [48:03.360 --> 48:09.360] Ray Olnick, Nadla Olnick, Linda Green, who I think is on the line, [48:09.360 --> 48:13.360] Dr. Neil Carman, and a number of dentists. [48:13.360 --> 48:17.360] You've got some really talented people here, well-informed, [48:17.360 --> 48:20.360] well-credentialed, opposed to fluoridation. [48:20.360 --> 48:24.360] There's a good strong movement here, there in Austin, Texas. [48:24.360 --> 48:27.360] So that was a city that we might get it out of. [48:27.360 --> 48:33.360] And I believe if we got it out of Austin, Texas, it would start a domino effect, [48:33.360 --> 48:36.360] not only in Texas, but throughout the country. [48:36.360 --> 48:42.360] And lastly, Toronto, Ontario, because Canada is very vulnerable. [48:42.360 --> 48:46.360] A number of cities have already stopped in Canada. [48:46.360 --> 48:51.360] There's very little fluoridation in British Columbia, very little in Quebec. [48:51.360 --> 48:53.360] Quebec City stopped. [48:53.360 --> 48:56.360] Several communities have stopped in Ontario. [48:56.360 --> 49:02.360] Waterloo, Ontario, voted against fluorid to get fluoridation out October the 25th. [49:02.360 --> 49:06.360] The pearl in the crown is Toronto. [49:06.360 --> 49:11.360] If we could get it out of Toronto, that's the end of fluoridation in Canada [49:11.360 --> 49:14.360] and the beginning of the end of fluoridation in North America. [49:14.360 --> 49:19.360] So Toronto, Austin, and San Diego are our three targets right now. [49:19.360 --> 49:22.360] Wow, well, we are extremely blessed that we live in one of the cities [49:22.360 --> 49:24.360] that are the target cities. [49:24.360 --> 49:28.360] And yes, indeed, there is a very strong community here [49:28.360 --> 49:30.360] that is very active on these types of issues. [49:30.360 --> 49:34.360] So, Dr. Connaught, tell us what you have been doing, [49:34.360 --> 49:37.360] what your network has been doing concerning these three cities, [49:37.360 --> 49:45.360] and of course relay the account to us concerning your talk at our own city council [49:45.360 --> 49:47.360] this last Thursday. [49:47.360 --> 49:51.360] Yes, well, we've been trying to educate the people with our website, [49:51.360 --> 49:56.360] with a wonderful video to call professional perspectives on water fluoridation, [49:56.360 --> 50:00.360] a professional statement calling for an end of fluoridation worldwide, [50:00.360 --> 50:05.360] signed by over 3,000 people, and my visit here. [50:05.360 --> 50:07.360] I can tell you I'm pretty tired right now. [50:07.360 --> 50:11.360] I've been on the road since October the 5th, only two days at home, [50:11.360 --> 50:16.360] and when I was asked to come to Austin, Texas, I was looking at my diary, [50:16.360 --> 50:21.360] and I decided to fill the gap between one visit to Europe, [50:21.360 --> 50:24.360] which had me speaking incidentally in the European Parliament [50:24.360 --> 50:29.360] at the House of Commons on waste, and my next visit to Europe, [50:29.360 --> 50:31.360] which will be in a few days' time. [50:31.360 --> 50:38.360] I filled the gap with Austin, Texas, and a short visit to San Antonio. [50:38.360 --> 50:42.360] So I arrived in San Antonio late at night, [50:42.360 --> 50:48.360] which of course by an English time was about 5 or 6 o'clock in the morning, [50:48.360 --> 50:54.360] on November the 3rd, and I was whisked in front of the city council [50:54.360 --> 50:57.360] on November the 4th in the morning. [50:57.360 --> 51:00.360] I think it was like 10 o'clock in the morning. [51:00.360 --> 51:02.360] I felt like death warmed up, [51:02.360 --> 51:08.360] and I was the first person to the podium in this public participation period, [51:08.360 --> 51:14.360] and I started to speak, and to my utter amazement and horror, [51:14.360 --> 51:19.360] the mayor was talking to the person next to him, and nobody was listening, [51:19.360 --> 51:22.360] and I guess they got into a habit of doing this, [51:22.360 --> 51:29.360] because the camera is focused on the citizen that is speaking, [51:29.360 --> 51:31.360] and then the camera does not look at the panel, [51:31.360 --> 51:33.360] it just looks at the mayor and the city councilors, [51:33.360 --> 51:39.360] so they can goof off whilst this person is pouring out their soul, which is my case, [51:39.360 --> 51:42.360] and my message was, please, here's the book. [51:42.360 --> 51:44.360] It's taken me a year to write this. [51:44.360 --> 51:47.360] It's 14 years of my life between two covers in a book. [51:47.360 --> 51:48.360] Please go out. [51:48.360 --> 51:52.360] If you really want to continue fluoridation, go and find some scientists [51:52.360 --> 51:56.360] who can deal with the arguments in this book, demolish it if you like, [51:56.360 --> 52:00.360] but please give me a response, a scientific response to this book, [52:00.360 --> 52:03.360] and if you can't, then stop fluoridation. [52:03.360 --> 52:08.360] I don't think they heard any of that, because they were too busy talking to one another. [52:08.360 --> 52:14.360] Now, you know, I get used to this kind of dismissal of our concerns. [52:14.360 --> 52:17.360] After 14 years, you get quite a thick skin, [52:17.360 --> 52:20.360] but I did think how awful it must be for citizens. [52:20.360 --> 52:27.360] You know, it's not easy for citizens to get up in speaking in front of the public, in public speaking. [52:27.360 --> 52:32.360] It's very, very frightening, and they're scared. [52:32.360 --> 52:33.360] They're scared to talk in public. [52:33.360 --> 52:35.360] Most people are scared to talk in public, [52:35.360 --> 52:44.360] let alone talking in front of the camera that's beaming out your comments in front of the public. [52:44.360 --> 52:52.360] And, you know, for them to get this kind of treatment, for them not to get that respect, [52:52.360 --> 52:54.360] it's really an insult to democracy. [52:54.360 --> 53:00.360] You really want, for a democracy to function, you want citizens to participate. [53:00.360 --> 53:05.360] The politicians urge them to participate, and if they pluck up the courage [53:05.360 --> 53:12.360] and put the effort into coming to city council, giving up their precious family time to do this, [53:12.360 --> 53:14.360] at least you should listen to them. [53:14.360 --> 53:16.360] You should pay them respect. [53:16.360 --> 53:20.360] I'm talking to other citizens here who've been making these statements. [53:20.360 --> 53:22.360] They get this treatment every time. [53:22.360 --> 53:26.360] Well, Dr. Connott, I mean, they're our public servants, okay? [53:26.360 --> 53:27.360] We're the master. [53:27.360 --> 53:32.360] This is absolutely completely disrespectful and atrocious behavior, [53:32.360 --> 53:36.360] and I am still angry more than anything about the fact that [53:36.360 --> 53:40.360] they're putting anything in the water at all because they think it's good for us. [53:40.360 --> 53:45.360] No, they should be filtering whatever crap is in the water already out. [53:45.360 --> 53:50.360] They shouldn't be making decisions on our behalf to put stuff in the water for us [53:50.360 --> 53:52.360] because they think it's good. [53:52.360 --> 53:53.360] I'll make that decision. [53:53.360 --> 53:54.360] That's right. [53:54.360 --> 53:58.360] Well, I think since they are our servants, it should be up to us what they drink, [53:58.360 --> 54:03.360] and I personally am for taking one 55-gallon drum per public employee, [54:03.360 --> 54:07.360] taking it to their office, and making them drink the whole thing. [54:07.360 --> 54:09.360] That's Eddie. [54:09.360 --> 54:10.360] No, it would be good. [54:10.360 --> 54:11.360] No, it would be good. [54:11.360 --> 54:15.360] Okay, so, yeah, you were treated outrageously in San Antonio. [54:15.360 --> 54:21.360] You spoke in front of City Council here in Austin this past Thursday. [54:21.360 --> 54:25.360] Apparently, you were treated outrageously in that arena as well. [54:25.360 --> 54:28.360] Can you please give us an idea of what happened? [54:28.360 --> 54:31.360] Where was this, to the Department of Health? [54:31.360 --> 54:33.360] No, here in Austin City Council. [54:33.360 --> 54:36.360] Oh, well, that was it, you know, in the City Council. [54:36.360 --> 54:37.360] That was it. [54:37.360 --> 54:39.360] They were talking to each other. [54:39.360 --> 54:41.360] They weren't apparently listening to one another. [54:41.360 --> 54:42.360] Oh, I'm sorry. [54:42.360 --> 54:43.360] I thought you were referring to San Antonio. [54:43.360 --> 54:44.360] I thought you were in San Antonio. [54:44.360 --> 54:45.360] Oh, absolutely. [54:45.360 --> 54:46.360] Okay, so, Austin, yes. [54:46.360 --> 54:50.360] In San Antonio, no, I only spoke to the public in San Antonio. [54:50.360 --> 54:53.360] We had a wonderful meeting, a lot of young people. [54:53.360 --> 54:56.360] It's good to see young people getting involved. [54:56.360 --> 54:59.360] A lot of young people, very enthusiastic. [54:59.360 --> 55:01.360] So I was pleased about that. [55:01.360 --> 55:06.360] I met up with Bill Kyle, a former counselor in Alamo Heights, [55:06.360 --> 55:09.360] who kept fluoridation out of Alamo Heights. [55:09.360 --> 55:14.360] Very important because he was a professional scientist, [55:14.360 --> 55:19.360] a geophysicist, was able to run rings around the dentists [55:19.360 --> 55:22.360] coming in and making all their false claims. [55:22.360 --> 55:25.360] Well, I think it may have been you that I heard on a radio show [55:25.360 --> 55:28.360] at one point talking about some interaction with a dentist [55:28.360 --> 55:32.360] where a dentist was saying to either you or someone else [55:32.360 --> 55:35.360] who was debating the fluoride issue, saying, [55:35.360 --> 55:37.360] well, we have to take care of these children, [55:37.360 --> 55:39.360] these poor children that don't have dental insurance [55:39.360 --> 55:40.360] and blah, blah, blah. [55:40.360 --> 55:42.360] And we're the ones that have got to take care of their teeth. [55:42.360 --> 55:45.360] And they're coming in here all the time with all this tooth decay. [55:45.360 --> 55:47.360] There's no way we want to take the fluoride out of the water. [55:47.360 --> 55:51.360] And the opposer said, well, see how much good it's doing [55:51.360 --> 55:56.360] if you're still having to take care of all these decaying teeth. [55:56.360 --> 55:59.360] I mean, don't you think it's not doing any good or what? [55:59.360 --> 56:00.360] That's right. [56:00.360 --> 56:01.360] You're absolutely right, Deborah. [56:01.360 --> 56:05.360] Some of the worst tooth decay in the United States [56:05.360 --> 56:08.360] is in cities that have been fluoridated for 30 years. [56:08.360 --> 56:10.360] So it's not working. [56:10.360 --> 56:16.360] And really, when dentists cry about doing this for poor children, [56:16.360 --> 56:21.360] it's crocodile tears because 80% of dentists in the United States [56:21.360 --> 56:24.360] will not treat children on Medicaid. [56:24.360 --> 56:29.360] And this whole notion of we must fluoridate Austin [56:29.360 --> 56:32.360] to help poor children is totally misplaced [56:32.360 --> 56:36.360] because it's precisely families of low income [56:36.360 --> 56:40.360] that can't afford to avoid the fluoride [56:40.360 --> 56:43.360] because they can't afford bottled water [56:43.360 --> 56:46.360] or reverse osmosis or whatever else. [56:46.360 --> 56:47.360] Well, now, Doug, just for a second, [56:47.360 --> 56:49.360] we deal in straight-up truth here. [56:49.360 --> 56:51.360] You can say it's a ball-faced lie. [56:51.360 --> 56:52.360] Yeah, it is. [56:52.360 --> 56:56.360] And here's another problem, which they may or may not know. [56:56.360 --> 57:02.360] It is precisely when you've got poor diet, [57:02.360 --> 57:06.360] that's when you're very vulnerable to fluoride toxic effects. [57:06.360 --> 57:09.360] So if you've got low calcium, you've got low magnesium, [57:09.360 --> 57:13.360] if you've got low vitamin C, vitamin E, vitamin D, [57:13.360 --> 57:16.360] if you've got low protein levels, [57:16.360 --> 57:22.360] if you've got a poor diet, you're more vulnerable to fluoride toxicity. [57:22.360 --> 57:25.360] This is well established. [57:25.360 --> 57:29.360] And that means that where you're most likely to find poor diet [57:29.360 --> 57:32.360] in the United States aren't the low-income families. [57:32.360 --> 57:35.360] So on the one hand, you've trapped them [57:35.360 --> 57:37.360] because they can't avoid it, [57:37.360 --> 57:42.360] and on the other hand, they are more punished by fluoride. [57:42.360 --> 57:44.360] And there's another factor here, [57:44.360 --> 57:46.360] not that there's necessarily a correlation [57:46.360 --> 57:49.360] between low income and being black, [57:49.360 --> 57:55.360] but blacks have more, statistically speaking, [57:55.360 --> 58:00.360] black families have more lactose intolerance, [58:00.360 --> 58:02.360] and so they have less calcium, [58:02.360 --> 58:04.360] they have an intolerance to dairy products, [58:04.360 --> 58:08.360] so they are definitely more vulnerable to fluoride, [58:08.360 --> 58:10.360] and there are higher levels of dental phorosis [58:10.360 --> 58:13.360] amongst black children than white children. [58:13.360 --> 58:15.360] This is just enraging. [58:15.360 --> 58:18.360] It's just totally infuriating. [58:18.360 --> 58:21.360] We have to do something about it, and we are doing something about it. [58:21.360 --> 58:23.360] When we come back on the other side of the top-of-the-hour break, [58:23.360 --> 58:26.360] we're going to bring on Linda Green from Fluoride Free Austin. [58:26.360 --> 58:31.360] We're going to talk a little bit more about the City Council episode, [58:31.360 --> 58:35.360] you may say, and apparently one of the City Council members [58:35.360 --> 58:41.360] has called Linda with a message apparently being interested [58:41.360 --> 58:44.360] in these materials after all. [58:44.360 --> 58:49.360] And so perhaps it's a good sign I think they can smell the lawsuit coming, [58:49.360 --> 58:54.360] and we will be discussing ideas for a lawsuit against the City of Austin [58:54.360 --> 58:57.360] to get the fluoride out of the water when we get back on the other side. [58:57.360 --> 58:59.360] This is the rule of law. 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[01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.360] Allison likened the predictable bankruptcy of the U.S. [01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:39.360] to the problems that mortgage lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, [01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.360] whose insolvency, he said, was also foreseeable. [01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.360] Allison went on, quote, [01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:48.360] I think the first thing we have to realize is where we're going and to face it objectively. [01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.360] When asked about the trillion-dollar-plus deficits [01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.360] the federal government has run for three years, [01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.360] the more than 13 trillion dollars in federal debt, [01:01:56.360 --> 01:02:00.360] and the 61.9 trillion in unfunded liabilities [01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.360] for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Allison said, [01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.360] if you run the numbers, which I think are accurate, [01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:11.360] in 20 or 25 years the United States goes bankrupt. [01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:16.360] A review conducted for the director of national intelligence [01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.360] has found at least five cases in which U.S. agencies were warned [01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:25.360] David Headley, a central figure in the 2008 attacks on Mumbai, [01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.360] was training or working with Pakistani militants. [01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:31.360] Officials say in the seven years in which leads accumulated, [01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:35.360] Headley was not questioned or placed on a terror watch list. [01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:39.360] The review has found allegations about the Pakistani-American businessman's [01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:43.360] extremist ties began in 2001 [01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.360] and were more numerous and specific than previously disclosed. [01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:50.360] The Headley case suggested flawed information sharing [01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.360] and an overwhelming flow of raw intelligence [01:02:53.360 --> 01:03:14.360] kept investigators from identifying the threat posed by a U.S. terrorist. [01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:29.360] According to the will of the Almighty [01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:36.360] I read his book and it says he cares not for the unsightly [01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:45.360] These warmongers come by that term rightly [01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:48.360] I won't pay for the war with my fight [01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:52.360] Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money [01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:55.360] I won't pay for the fun with my body [01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:58.360] Their plans wicked and their logic shabby [01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:02.360] Ain't gonna pay for the war with my body [01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.360] I won't pay for the fun with my money [01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:30.360] I won't pay for the fun with my body [01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:37.360] He's got to go in a few minutes. [01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:39.360] He's got a question for Dr. Connett. [01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:41.360] Julian, thank you for calling in. [01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.360] What is your question for Dr. Connett? [01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:47.360] Hi, Deborah. This is Julian from Virginia. [01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.360] And my question is for Dr. Connett. [01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:56.360] Isn't it true that Germany had just recently banned the use of fluoride in the tap water? [01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.360] Well, no, it's not recent, Julian. [01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.360] When the two Germanies combined, [01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:07.360] East Germany was fluoridated and West Germany was not. [01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.360] They tried one town, but they stopped. [01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:15.360] But when the two Germanies united, I don't remember the year, [01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:19.360] they stopped fluoridation in East Germany. [01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:26.360] What was interesting was they followed the tooth decay in East Germany cities [01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:31.360] after the unification and after East Germany had stopped fluoridation. [01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.360] And tooth decay did not go up. [01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:35.360] Contrary to what they were expecting, [01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:37.360] they thought when they stopped fluoridating, [01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.360] the tooth decay was going to go up, but it didn't. [01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.360] It continued to go down. [01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.360] And that's happened also not only in East Germany, [01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:48.360] but in Finland, in Cuba, and in British Columbia, Canada. [01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:51.360] So contrary to what they tell you, [01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:55.360] when fluoridation stops, you don't get the surge in tooth decay. [01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:56.360] It continues to go down. [01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.360] Yeah, and even if it did go up, [01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:01.360] what's the point? [01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.360] It's not the government's job to be our nanny or our nurse or our doctor [01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:09.360] or to make sure that we have, you know, the proper medicine. [01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.360] I mean, we're big boys and girls who can take care of ourselves. [01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:17.360] Yeah, and I resent, as a scientist, these nannies that you talk about [01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.360] not being able to defend this practice in public debate [01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:25.360] and not being able to answer scientific questions when it's put to them. [01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:29.360] And then sitting there laughing when they're out there on the panel at City Council [01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:30.360] and text messaging. [01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:31.360] It's power. [01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:33.360] It's not science. [01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:34.360] It's not logic. [01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:35.360] It's not common sense. [01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:36.360] It's not ethics. [01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:38.360] We're up against power. [01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:42.360] They are in charge, and they can do what they jolly well want. [01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.360] Well, and honestly, I think it's coming down from the international level, [01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.360] Agenda 21. [01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:51.360] I think it's all part of the population control plan. [01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:52.360] They want to kill us all. [01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:54.360] They want to subdue us all, the whole thing. [01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:55.360] I've got a dissent from that. [01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.360] In the book, we made it clear that we don't associate ourselves [01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.360] with these gigantic conspiracy theories. [01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:08.360] We think it's much more to do with liabilities and loss of credibility. [01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.360] You've just got to remember this. [01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:15.360] For all public health policies, ultimately, the public has to trust. [01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:17.360] The public has to trust it. [01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.360] The doctor, the doctor has to trust their professional bodies. [01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.360] Professional bodies have to trust the government. [01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:27.360] And I think this is a betrayal of trust all the way down the line. [01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.360] They do not want this exposed. [01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:36.360] If nothing else, they're protecting other public health policies like vaccination. [01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:38.360] Well, they should be very concerned. [01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.360] There's a lot of teeth problems. [01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:44.360] A lot of problems with your teeth is the depleted uranium that our troops are using. [01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:45.360] Yeah, yeah. [01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:49.360] That's a huge, huge concern. [01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:53.360] All right, do you have anything else, Julian? [01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:56.360] I did have a traffic problem. [01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.360] Okay, we'll talk about the traffic issue later. [01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:00.360] Yeah, we have Dr. Conant on. [01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:01.360] All right, thank you, Julian. [01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:02.360] Yes, thank you. [01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:03.360] Bye. [01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:06.360] All right, and Dr. Conant, they should be very concerned about the liability [01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:10.360] because this is laying the groundwork for a huge lawsuit, [01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.360] gigantic lawsuit against them. [01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:14.360] I mean, talk about liability. [01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:19.360] Even if they don't admit what the truth is, they're still liable. [01:08:19.360 --> 01:08:26.360] I think there must be something in law to protect against lack of due diligence. [01:08:26.360 --> 01:08:30.360] I mean, surely public servants are paid for the public, by the public, [01:08:30.360 --> 01:08:33.360] to protect their interests, to protect the health in this case. [01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:39.360] And aren't they, isn't it beholden upon them to make sure they've done everything in their power [01:08:39.360 --> 01:08:45.360] to check out everything and make sure they're not doing something that harms people? [01:08:45.360 --> 01:08:49.360] I mean, is that something in law, lack of due diligence? [01:08:49.360 --> 01:08:53.360] Well, the problem is that the overseers of the people, [01:08:53.360 --> 01:08:57.360] as far as protecting our rights and everything, have switched sides. [01:08:57.360 --> 01:08:59.360] They no longer watch out for us, [01:08:59.360 --> 01:09:05.360] but they protect the acts that you're speaking of by those very government officials [01:09:05.360 --> 01:09:10.360] and make it almost impossible to take them into court and make them accountable for what they do. [01:09:10.360 --> 01:09:15.360] Yeah, but every piece of evidence that we looked at when we wrote this book, [01:09:15.360 --> 01:09:19.360] The Case Against Fluoride, indicates that they're working backwards. [01:09:19.360 --> 01:09:26.360] They're working backwards from the necessity to protect this practice. [01:09:26.360 --> 01:09:31.360] It seems to be more important to protect the practice of water fluoridation [01:09:31.360 --> 01:09:35.360] than it is to protect the health of the people. [01:09:35.360 --> 01:09:39.360] And obviously, that raises huge questions. [01:09:39.360 --> 01:09:44.360] Why is this practice so important to protect? [01:09:44.360 --> 01:09:48.360] Yeah, and bringing up what happened at City Council, [01:09:48.360 --> 01:09:51.360] this is where I want to get to the legal issues here. [01:09:51.360 --> 01:09:56.360] And Randy, since Dr. Connott went and spoke at City Council, [01:09:56.360 --> 01:10:00.360] and since Linda Green and these others have been in front of City Council every week, [01:10:00.360 --> 01:10:05.360] every Thursday for months and months, even years, presenting the evidence, presenting the data, [01:10:05.360 --> 01:10:10.360] and there is video that these City Council members and the mayor were just laughing and goofing off [01:10:10.360 --> 01:10:12.360] and not paying any attention whatsoever. [01:10:12.360 --> 01:10:20.360] I mean, isn't this some kind of grounds for a lawsuit that if they are going to do something proactively, [01:10:20.360 --> 01:10:22.360] it's not like a lack of action. [01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:28.360] It's not like they're not filtering out something that is coming down from the Colorado River from upstream. [01:10:28.360 --> 01:10:34.360] I mean, they are actually adding something into the water supply since they have not done their due [01:10:34.360 --> 01:10:38.360] diligent research to make sure that it's safe before doing this practice. [01:10:38.360 --> 01:10:44.360] And now that ample evidence has even been presented in public forum, it's not just a public forum, [01:10:44.360 --> 01:10:51.360] but public hearing, aren't they completely liable for a lawsuit at this point in time, Randy? [01:10:51.360 --> 01:11:01.360] It would seem so if we have evidence of quantifiable harm, and the lowering in IQ is absolutely one, [01:11:01.360 --> 01:11:07.360] and absolutely the fluoridation staining on the teeth. [01:11:07.360 --> 01:11:14.360] That is an actual detectable quantifiable harm. [01:11:14.360 --> 01:11:21.360] Now, Randy, would only certain individuals who have shown medical damage personally from fluoride [01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:24.360] be able to have standing for a lawsuit like this? [01:11:24.360 --> 01:11:26.360] I mean, who would have standing to sue? [01:11:26.360 --> 01:11:35.360] I could go in and say my IQ is average, and it should have been well above average. [01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:42.360] And it's not well above average because I come here and I use the fluoride and my IQ dropped down into my shoe. [01:11:42.360 --> 01:11:45.360] It's not the country western music I listen to, honest. [01:11:45.360 --> 01:11:49.360] Oh, come on, Randy. Isn't that really a legal argument? [01:11:49.360 --> 01:11:53.360] Well, you have enough evidence. [01:11:53.360 --> 01:12:00.360] You're in harm's way, and you can potentially be harmed. [01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:03.360] And like you said, I can't protect myself from it. [01:12:03.360 --> 01:12:11.360] In a civilized society, if it's absorbed through my skin, I can't raise an objection to it. [01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:14.360] Water is not something that someone could say, [01:12:14.360 --> 01:12:17.360] well, if you don't want to get the fluoride, don't use the water. [01:12:17.360 --> 01:12:19.360] Well, water is a necessity. [01:12:19.360 --> 01:12:22.360] Yeah, especially for low-income families. [01:12:22.360 --> 01:12:28.360] You know, and I think they think that they are protected by all these pronouncements from the CDC, et cetera, [01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:29.360] that it's safe and effective. [01:12:29.360 --> 01:12:35.360] But in fact, there is, from what we could gather, right in this book, we have a whole chapter on this, [01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:44.360] there's no one in charge, that there's no federal agency that actually accepts liability for fluoridation. [01:12:44.360 --> 01:12:51.360] The EPA doesn't, because the EPA regulates contaminants, but it doesn't regulate additives. [01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:56.360] The FDA has never regulated fluoride for ingestion. [01:12:56.360 --> 01:13:01.360] They regulate toothpaste, but they don't regulate fluoride in water. [01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:08.360] And the CDC, when you trace down the CDC, it's only this oral health division. [01:13:08.360 --> 01:13:10.360] They're not in charge of safety. [01:13:10.360 --> 01:13:15.360] They are promoting fluoridation, so they have a conflict of interest. [01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:23.360] And it turns out that the EPA in 1988 shoved off the responsibility to additives [01:13:23.360 --> 01:13:30.360] to a private body called the National Salitation Foundation, NSF International. [01:13:30.360 --> 01:13:39.360] They are the ones who are supposed to guarantee the safety of the chemicals that are used in fluoridation. [01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:47.360] But when you look at their book on these levels, they have a disclaimer, saying they've done sort of, [01:13:47.360 --> 01:13:52.360] you know, their professional judgment is this is safe, but you can't sue them. [01:13:52.360 --> 01:13:54.360] You can't sue the NSF. [01:13:54.360 --> 01:14:00.360] And the chemical companies also have a disclaimer. They're Lucier and other chemical companies [01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:05.360] that supply these fluoridating chemicals directly from the fertilized industry. [01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:10.360] They have a disclaimer. We don't guarantee that this is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. [01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:15.360] So at the federal level, there does not appear to be anybody to sue. [01:14:15.360 --> 01:14:18.360] Wait a minute. That disclaimer doesn't mean squat. [01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:19.360] Oh, really? [01:14:19.360 --> 01:14:21.360] Absolutely nothing. [01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:22.360] Oh. [01:14:22.360 --> 01:14:26.360] We put out these poison chemicals and we think they might be safe, [01:14:26.360 --> 01:14:30.360] but we don't accept any responsibility. Yes, you do. [01:14:30.360 --> 01:14:32.360] Oh, oh. [01:14:32.360 --> 01:14:38.360] Just saying you don't accept responsibility does not absolve you from the responsibility. [01:14:38.360 --> 01:14:41.360] Oh, now that's interesting. [01:14:41.360 --> 01:14:47.360] What about the CDC? How would you go off to the CDC? As I said, they could... [01:14:47.360 --> 01:14:51.360] The government agency is a lot harder. This is a private company. [01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:52.360] Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. [01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:53.360] They're a fair game. [01:14:53.360 --> 01:14:54.360] Yeah, they're okay. Okay. [01:14:54.360 --> 01:14:57.360] Yeah. See, the courts are going to want to protect the other government agencies, [01:14:57.360 --> 01:15:02.360] but a private entity, they're much more vulnerable. [01:15:02.360 --> 01:15:04.360] Even with a disclaimer. [01:15:04.360 --> 01:15:06.360] They can say whatever they want. [01:15:06.360 --> 01:15:11.360] I mean, you can't just go inflicting torts on people with a disclaimer. [01:15:11.360 --> 01:15:13.360] That doesn't mean that you're not liable. [01:15:13.360 --> 01:15:17.360] That's like saying the nuclear bomb may cause you to glow in the dark, [01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:20.360] but we can't be held liable for anything else it might do. [01:15:20.360 --> 01:15:23.360] Yeah, yeah. I'm going to punch you in the mouth, [01:15:23.360 --> 01:15:27.360] but I'm not responsible if your teeth fall out, but it doesn't matter. [01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:29.360] It's not a contract. [01:15:29.360 --> 01:15:32.360] What about the waterworks themselves? [01:15:32.360 --> 01:15:38.360] I mean, we're in contact with a lot of people that work in water departments, [01:15:38.360 --> 01:15:40.360] and they do not want to do this. [01:15:40.360 --> 01:15:45.360] They do not want to handle these chemicals because they're horrible too. [01:15:45.360 --> 01:15:47.360] They have to have hazmat suits to handle them. [01:15:47.360 --> 01:15:50.360] We need to depose these people [01:15:50.360 --> 01:15:54.360] and get their full testimony and deposition to be presented in court. [01:15:54.360 --> 01:15:57.360] We need to sue those people. [01:15:57.360 --> 01:16:00.360] The best one to sue is the one that's innocent. [01:16:00.360 --> 01:16:01.360] Oh, really? [01:16:01.360 --> 01:16:04.360] Oh, he'll scream bloody murder. [01:16:04.360 --> 01:16:09.360] If we sue the one who puts it in, [01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:15.360] then they'll have problems in their own ranks. [01:16:15.360 --> 01:16:18.360] Well, Randy, what about we sue city council first [01:16:18.360 --> 01:16:22.360] because they're the ones that are responsible for making the decisions to put it in, [01:16:22.360 --> 01:16:27.360] and then, wait a minute, hear me out, and then we depose the workers [01:16:27.360 --> 01:16:31.360] to get their sob story about the whole thing, about how dangerous it is, [01:16:31.360 --> 01:16:35.360] and if that doesn't work, then we'll go back and sue the workers. [01:16:35.360 --> 01:16:39.360] But at this point in time, I'd rather use the workers as an asset [01:16:39.360 --> 01:16:41.360] and get their full testimony on the deal [01:16:41.360 --> 01:16:45.360] because that is some heavy evidence about what they have to go through [01:16:45.360 --> 01:16:47.360] with the hazmat suits and everything else, [01:16:47.360 --> 01:16:50.360] and we need to get their testimony on this. [01:16:50.360 --> 01:16:52.360] Yeah, but you'd get that anyway. 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[01:18:48.360 --> 01:18:53.360] Ask for Chad and say you heard about us on Rule of Law Radio or 90.1 FM. [01:18:53.360 --> 01:18:59.360] That's Capital Coin and Bullion, 512-646-6440. [01:18:59.360 --> 01:19:26.360] A'n't gon'a blime me Don't buy me [01:19:26.360 --> 01:19:33.360] But now I can see your plans You put the fear in my pocket [01:19:33.360 --> 01:19:42.360] Took the money from my hand Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again [01:19:42.360 --> 01:19:47.360] Ain't gonna fool me [01:19:47.360 --> 01:19:49.360] Okay folks, we are back. [01:19:49.360 --> 01:19:57.360] If you have a question for Dr. Paul Connitz from fluoridealert.org. [01:19:57.360 --> 01:20:00.360] He's the director of the Fluoride Action Network. [01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:04.360] He's the author of the book Case Against Fluoride. [01:20:04.360 --> 01:20:08.360] He's speaking tomorrow night at the Huston-Tillotson College in the church at 7 p.m. [01:20:08.360 --> 01:20:14.360] You can go to fluoridefreeaustin.org for more information about where to park and such. [01:20:14.360 --> 01:20:21.360] So we're discussing how we're going to put together this lawsuit against whom, who all the co-defendants are going to be, [01:20:21.360 --> 01:20:24.360] who has standing to be the plaintiffs. [01:20:24.360 --> 01:20:31.360] And I'm saying for sure, city council, and I'm thinking not just the city of Austin as an entity, [01:20:31.360 --> 01:20:35.360] I say we sue, here's my list of defendants so far. [01:20:35.360 --> 01:20:40.360] The city of Austin, the city council members personally, [01:20:40.360 --> 01:20:48.360] Randy is suggesting as co-defendants also the actual workers that are putting the fluoride into the water physically. [01:20:48.360 --> 01:20:50.360] They're the ones who actually do the dirty deed. [01:20:50.360 --> 01:20:57.360] And Dr. Connitz is now suggesting someone from the health department, the Texas Health Department here in Austin, [01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:00.360] a toady as Dr. Connitz calls him. [01:21:00.360 --> 01:21:02.360] Tell us about the toady, Dr. Connitz. [01:21:02.360 --> 01:21:13.360] There's meant to be a private comment, but no, this Dr. Huang is a former employee of the CDC. [01:21:13.360 --> 01:21:20.360] What you've got to recognize is two chains of command which have orchestrated this fluoridation for 60 years. [01:21:20.360 --> 01:21:27.360] One is what was once the U.S. Public Health Services, now the Department of Health and Human Services, [01:21:27.360 --> 01:21:32.360] which is in terms of the instrument is the Center of Disease Control. [01:21:32.360 --> 01:21:38.360] And they are at the top, the Center of Disease Control, but then there's this chain of command through every state. [01:21:38.360 --> 01:21:43.360] Every state has a health department, every health department has a dental director, [01:21:43.360 --> 01:21:47.360] and usually that dental director is actually paid by the CDC. [01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:54.360] And one of their jobs is to promote fluoridation, they get incentives to do so. [01:21:54.360 --> 01:22:00.360] And then that works down to the town's health departments or whatever they're called. [01:22:00.360 --> 01:22:06.360] I think in the case of Austin, it's the Department of Health and Human Services. [01:22:06.360 --> 01:22:14.360] And we did have the opportunity to have a half an hour or so discussion with Dr. Huang, the head of that. [01:22:14.360 --> 01:22:19.360] And I was just appalled. I mean, he was just a rubber stamp from this policy. [01:22:19.360 --> 01:22:24.360] Everything we said was not, you know, they wasn't digested or anything. [01:22:24.360 --> 01:22:30.360] It was an immediate response. It was an immediate denial, denial, denial. [01:22:30.360 --> 01:22:34.360] That's a bad study or this is wrong or that. [01:22:34.360 --> 01:22:45.360] Again, the only, I think, rational assessment of that conversation was that he was working backwards, [01:22:45.360 --> 01:22:51.360] backwards from the necessity to keep this practice going at all costs. [01:22:51.360 --> 01:22:54.360] It was more important. This is an impression. [01:22:54.360 --> 01:23:00.360] Now, you might have a different view of this, but my impression was the important thing was to keep this practice going. [01:23:00.360 --> 01:23:05.360] And that was more important than protecting the health of the community. [01:23:05.360 --> 01:23:13.360] We couldn't even get a really positive response to the notion of putting a warning to parents in the water bills. [01:23:13.360 --> 01:23:15.360] Oh, I have to discuss this. [01:23:15.360 --> 01:23:18.360] You know, it wasn't, yes, that's a good idea. [01:23:18.360 --> 01:23:23.360] We should warn parents not to use tap water to make up a formula. [01:23:23.360 --> 01:23:28.360] Obviously, the cogs were turning and it was, will this threaten the program? [01:23:28.360 --> 01:23:35.360] So I think, yes, he's a candidate or that department is a candidate for a lawsuit. [01:23:35.360 --> 01:23:39.360] Indeed. Now let's talk about who has standing to file. [01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:47.360] Randy, can anyone who lives in Austin and is drinking the tap water or being affected by the tap water file, [01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:56.360] I mean, you've said before that in general, the general public does not have standing for a lawsuit that you have to show specific harm. [01:23:56.360 --> 01:24:00.360] Well, this is one where we can document the specific harm. [01:24:00.360 --> 01:24:06.360] So anyone who is living in Austin would have standing to raise the issue. [01:24:06.360 --> 01:24:10.360] I mean, we can document the specific harm from the research studies is what you're saying. [01:24:10.360 --> 01:24:16.360] And so that way, okay, so since there has been documentation of specific harm in research studies, [01:24:16.360 --> 01:24:24.360] therefore anybody who is part of the general public in Austin, even if they don't, even if they can't show specific harm themselves, [01:24:24.360 --> 01:24:26.360] they would still have standing to sue. [01:24:26.360 --> 01:24:27.360] Exactly. [01:24:27.360 --> 01:24:37.360] Calling all activists, patriots in the city of Austin, send me an email if you would like to be a co-plaintiff in this lawsuit [01:24:37.360 --> 01:24:42.360] that we are cooking up right now against the city of Austin, the city council members personally, [01:24:42.360 --> 01:24:52.360] the workers who actually put the fluoride into the water, and this crony at the health department. [01:24:52.360 --> 01:24:53.360] We've got to stop this. [01:24:53.360 --> 01:24:54.360] Yes. [01:24:54.360 --> 01:24:59.360] All right, and we will be bringing Dr. Paul Conant on. [01:24:59.360 --> 01:25:00.360] What about Linda? [01:25:00.360 --> 01:25:04.360] And Linda, we're going to bring Linda on right now as well. [01:25:04.360 --> 01:25:06.360] She's certainly going to be a co-plaintiff. [01:25:06.360 --> 01:25:10.360] Dr. Paul Conant will be our professional witness. [01:25:10.360 --> 01:25:12.360] Yes, yes, I'll be there. [01:25:12.360 --> 01:25:18.360] Okay, so Linda Green from Fluoride Free Austin, thank you for holding and thank you for joining us tonight. [01:25:18.360 --> 01:25:19.360] Thank you. [01:25:19.360 --> 01:25:27.360] And everything that you have discussed tonight, the city council has heard at least once over the last two years [01:25:27.360 --> 01:25:33.360] as a very loose coalition of citizens has come together as Fluoride Free Austin [01:25:33.360 --> 01:25:38.360] and spoken to mayor and city council over and over and over again, as you said. [01:25:38.360 --> 01:25:43.360] We've presented evidence from the National Research Council. [01:25:43.360 --> 01:25:50.360] We've presented them over a month ago with Dr. Paul Conant's new book, The Case Against Fluoride. [01:25:50.360 --> 01:25:58.360] We've given them a copy of a wonderful 32-minute video that you can order at fluoridealert.org [01:25:58.360 --> 01:26:02.360] called Professional Perspectives on Water Fluoridation. [01:26:02.360 --> 01:26:06.360] And we have a wonderful resource in our community. [01:26:06.360 --> 01:26:11.360] Brave New Books has made copies of this movie and given it out to people. [01:26:11.360 --> 01:26:17.360] Brave New Books bought six copies of this book for us to give and take to city council. [01:26:17.360 --> 01:26:24.360] And we have Texans for Accountable Government, John Bush and Rob Love and Heather, [01:26:24.360 --> 01:26:28.360] who over and over again also have gone to city council and spoken. [01:26:28.360 --> 01:26:31.360] So they're quite aware of the facts. [01:26:31.360 --> 01:26:36.360] And after two years of presenting them with all this evidence, [01:26:36.360 --> 01:26:42.360] we thought, oh, all we need is four city council members to vote this out, [01:26:42.360 --> 01:26:45.360] and surely they're going to do the right thing. [01:26:45.360 --> 01:26:54.360] And then after presenting them with this book and the movie over a month ago, [01:26:54.360 --> 01:27:00.360] they knew Dr. Conant's standing professor, [01:27:00.360 --> 01:27:05.360] Emeritus of Environmental Chemistry at St. Lawrence University, [01:27:05.360 --> 01:27:12.360] and as he spoke last week, it took them several minutes to get a quorum. [01:27:12.360 --> 01:27:16.360] They kept flashing up on the city council screen, no quorum, no quorum. [01:27:16.360 --> 01:27:25.360] Finally, when they got started, it was the mayor, Randy Shade, Cheryl Cole, [01:27:25.360 --> 01:27:29.360] and Chris Riley in the room. [01:27:29.360 --> 01:27:32.360] Margot, our city manager, was missing. [01:27:32.360 --> 01:27:34.360] He had a fill-in. [01:27:34.360 --> 01:27:40.360] And as Dr. Conant started to speak, the mayor and the fill-in started chit-chatting. [01:27:40.360 --> 01:27:44.360] Their heads, they're almost touching, chit-chatting and smiling, [01:27:44.360 --> 01:27:48.360] completely ignoring Dr. Conant's speech. [01:27:48.360 --> 01:27:51.360] And they knew he was coming. [01:27:51.360 --> 01:27:53.360] They had been given his book, his movie. [01:27:53.360 --> 01:27:57.360] So to me, it was a deliberate snub. [01:27:57.360 --> 01:28:00.360] And it appeared that Randy Shade was reading a text message. [01:28:00.360 --> 01:28:04.360] She had a smile on her face and was looking down at her hand. [01:28:04.360 --> 01:28:08.360] So a number of us called city council today, [01:28:08.360 --> 01:28:15.360] and we let them know that we are enraged at their immature behavior. [01:28:15.360 --> 01:28:21.360] And I actually got a phone call from Randy Shade as I was going to Whole Foods tonight [01:28:21.360 --> 01:28:25.360] to refill my water bottle at the Reverse Osmosis Center. [01:28:25.360 --> 01:28:36.360] And she was very apologetic that I thought she wasn't paying attention to Dr. Conant's speech. [01:28:36.360 --> 01:28:39.360] She assured me that she was paying attention [01:28:39.360 --> 01:28:43.360] and that from time to time she does have to take text messages from her nannies, [01:28:43.360 --> 01:28:47.360] and she has so much important information that she has to deal with. [01:28:47.360 --> 01:28:54.360] So they've gotten a message that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore. [01:28:54.360 --> 01:28:59.360] And at the same time, I feel like we have all this wonderful community. [01:28:59.360 --> 01:29:02.360] We have 90.1 radio. [01:29:02.360 --> 01:29:03.360] We have Brave New Books. [01:29:03.360 --> 01:29:05.360] We have Texans for Accountable Government. [01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:07.360] We have Rule of Law radio. [01:29:07.360 --> 01:29:13.360] And I think maybe the first step for us to take is to demand that city council [01:29:13.360 --> 01:29:19.360] and the water utility company puts a warning label on the water bill. [01:29:19.360 --> 01:29:21.360] That would be the first step. [01:29:21.360 --> 01:29:26.360] And let them know we're coming and this is the first step [01:29:26.360 --> 01:29:32.360] because we've handed out hundreds of flyers from Fluoride Free Austin [01:29:32.360 --> 01:29:40.360] acknowledging that in 2001 the Center for Disease Control and 2002 the American Dental Association [01:29:40.360 --> 01:29:45.360] both said babies should get zero fluoride in their water. [01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:46.360] So let's warn the public. [01:29:46.360 --> 01:29:48.360] Hold on, we're going to break, Linda. [01:29:48.360 --> 01:29:50.360] When we get back on the other side, I'm going to comment on that. [01:29:50.360 --> 01:29:55.360] We've got some callers on the line that have some comments and questions concerning Fluoride as well. [01:29:55.360 --> 01:29:56.360] We'll be right back. [01:29:56.360 --> 01:30:00.360] This is Rule of Law. [01:30:00.360 --> 01:30:03.360] Christ fed the multitude with only one loaf of bread. [01:30:03.360 --> 01:30:06.360] Poor people, there's something for you. [01:30:06.360 --> 01:30:08.360] Austin's Own Caribbean, One Love Kitchen. [01:30:08.360 --> 01:30:10.360] On the banks of Colorado River. [01:30:10.360 --> 01:30:13.360] At 3109 East 1st Street is where you'll find One Love Kitchen. [01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:16.360] Jerk chicken, vegetarian restaurant. [01:30:16.360 --> 01:30:18.360] Monday through Wednesday, lunch and dinner. [01:30:18.360 --> 01:30:21.360] $5. Friday and Saturday, we got late night. [01:30:21.360 --> 01:30:24.360] And for a sound crew, still a $5 place. 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[01:31:45.360 --> 01:31:51.360] If we're not careful, this generation will grow into adults who don't know what privacy is or freedom either. [01:31:51.360 --> 01:32:10.360] I'm Dr. Katherine Albrecht. More news and information at KatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:32:21.360 --> 01:32:41.360] Okay, folks, we are back. We're taking your calls. Mitchell from Texas, just hang on one moment. [01:32:41.360 --> 01:32:47.360] I want to make some comments here concerning the demand for a warning to be put on the water bill. [01:32:47.360 --> 01:32:54.360] And as I was suggesting earlier, perhaps even demanding that the restaurants put up a notice, [01:32:54.360 --> 01:33:00.360] but that would require the passing of another city ordinance, so maybe that's a little bit off the mark. [01:33:00.360 --> 01:33:03.360] But concerning the demand, how do we demand? [01:33:03.360 --> 01:33:09.360] We have been going and screaming at them at City Council for two years and they're not listening. [01:33:09.360 --> 01:33:14.360] Here's how you demand. You file lawsuits, okay, because when it comes to the banksters, [01:33:14.360 --> 01:33:23.360] when it comes to these public serpents, as I call them, they will not pay attention to anything except a lawsuit, all right? [01:33:23.360 --> 01:33:27.360] So here's how we demand that they put a warning on the water bill. [01:33:27.360 --> 01:33:34.360] And I would say not just demand in a lawsuit, and I'm going to explain that in a minute, but here's what we do. [01:33:34.360 --> 01:33:44.360] We file for TRO, a temporary restraining order, restraining them from any further practice of putting fluoride in the water [01:33:44.360 --> 01:33:48.360] until a full hearing can be held concerning the lawsuit. [01:33:48.360 --> 01:33:55.360] And when we ask for injunctive relief, see, we have a much better chance of getting our way because we're not asking for any money. [01:33:55.360 --> 01:34:00.360] They have no kind of immunity concerning the injunct, when you ask just for the injunctive relief, [01:34:00.360 --> 01:34:04.360] which in this case is just to stop putting the fluoride. [01:34:04.360 --> 01:34:11.360] And so what I would believe would be a good injunctive relief to ask for, which would be in the prayer of the lawsuit, [01:34:11.360 --> 01:34:17.360] what you're asking the court to order is, number one, they put, they start, as effective immediately, [01:34:17.360 --> 01:34:26.360] they start printing a warning on the water bills that go out until such time as the fluoridation practice is stopped. [01:34:26.360 --> 01:34:31.360] We don't just say, well, let's just for now, let's put a warning. [01:34:31.360 --> 01:34:39.360] No, it's like you put a warning label on until you stop doing it, and we're asking for it to be stopped immediately. [01:34:39.360 --> 01:34:46.360] So that's my ideas for a petition for temporary restraining order and also for the injunctive relief. [01:34:46.360 --> 01:34:51.360] Here's one other thing. You're not allowed to charge for the water to the fluoridation season. [01:34:51.360 --> 01:34:54.360] Yeah, how about that? Yeah, that's a good one. [01:34:54.360 --> 01:34:57.360] I love that. [01:34:57.360 --> 01:35:03.360] I like that too. Now, we're not likely to get that in court, but so, Randy, what are your thoughts? [01:35:03.360 --> 01:35:06.360] You want me to pay for the poison you're giving me? I don't think so. [01:35:06.360 --> 01:35:13.360] Well, we're paying for it through, you know, the city of Austin is paying for it. That means we're paying for it, yeah. [01:35:13.360 --> 01:35:16.360] You know, we know what's sad about this. We talk about payment. [01:35:16.360 --> 01:35:26.360] This is over $700,000 a year, and it's designed to help families of children from families of low income. [01:35:26.360 --> 01:35:37.360] If we took that $700,000 that they're frishing away on these poisonous chemicals and help those low-income families directly with education, [01:35:37.360 --> 01:35:39.360] we could kill two birds with one stone. [01:35:39.360 --> 01:35:47.360] Not only do we need to educate people on a better diet to fight tooth decay, but that better diet also fights obesity. [01:35:47.360 --> 01:35:58.360] And obesity in children now, we're getting diabetes in their early teens, senior diabetes, diabetes type 2 in their teens. [01:35:58.360 --> 01:36:02.360] That's going to cost the country billions of dollars. [01:36:02.360 --> 01:36:11.360] So, you know, it's a good investment to protect tooth decay with education, not fluoridation. [01:36:11.360 --> 01:36:16.360] Indeed. So, Randy, what do you think about my ideas for the injunctive relief? [01:36:16.360 --> 01:36:27.360] I think if we win a suit, that's how we'll win it, but I would also want to put in monetary claims against the individuals [01:36:27.360 --> 01:36:33.360] so that we can use the monetary claim as a bargaining chip. [01:36:33.360 --> 01:36:38.360] You give us the injunction, we drop the monetary. [01:36:38.360 --> 01:36:39.360] Right. [01:36:39.360 --> 01:36:42.360] Oh, you guys are good. You guys are really good. [01:36:42.360 --> 01:36:47.360] Right. Well, we'll forget about asking for the compensation if you just stop. [01:36:47.360 --> 01:36:52.360] I still say we just make them drink it, and then when we go to office, we'll get it out. [01:36:52.360 --> 01:37:03.360] When you go after the employees, the city really gets excited because if you nail the employee for doing what the city told them to do, [01:37:03.360 --> 01:37:11.360] then they're looking at a situation where they can't get help. This really drives them up the wall. [01:37:11.360 --> 01:37:15.360] Well, now, Randy, are the city council members also liable personally for this? [01:37:15.360 --> 01:37:20.360] I would think so. This is, they have imputed knowledge. [01:37:20.360 --> 01:37:24.360] Let's put it this way. We list them as co-defendants, and they'll have to hire their own attorneys. [01:37:24.360 --> 01:37:29.360] They can't use the city attorney to defend them personally in the lawsuit. [01:37:29.360 --> 01:37:36.360] Now, the city attorney can defend the city of Austin, but the city attorney can't defend the city council members personally, [01:37:36.360 --> 01:37:41.360] so they're going to have to hire an attorney just to get them dismissed from the suit. [01:37:41.360 --> 01:37:47.360] We sued a magistrate, a local JP, and he got the county attorney to write his answer, [01:37:47.360 --> 01:37:50.360] so we sued the county attorney for misappropriation of public funds. [01:37:50.360 --> 01:37:51.360] Absolutely. [01:37:51.360 --> 01:37:52.360] That was a hoot. [01:37:52.360 --> 01:37:55.360] They have to hire their own attorney just like everybody else. [01:37:55.360 --> 01:38:01.360] Tell me, what happens when they say, well, the Center for Disease Control told us it was okay, [01:38:01.360 --> 01:38:10.360] and this agency tells us it's okay. They pass it up the ladder. What do you do legally in court to counteract that? [01:38:10.360 --> 01:38:12.360] That doesn't mean anything. [01:38:12.360 --> 01:38:13.360] No? [01:38:13.360 --> 01:38:19.360] That's like saying that the cause of death was lead poisoning when it was a gunshot wound to the head. [01:38:19.360 --> 01:38:25.360] Well, also, the fact that Linda and the gang have been in there every Thursday, [01:38:25.360 --> 01:38:34.360] and the fact that you went up there and told your piece, it's like they have a responsibility to evaluate all the evidence. [01:38:34.360 --> 01:38:39.360] They can't just say, well, we're not going to listen to Linda, and we're not going to listen to our constituents, [01:38:39.360 --> 01:38:44.360] and we're not going to listen to Dr. Connett because the CDC said this and that. [01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:49.360] I mean, they are responsible for all the information that comes to them. [01:38:49.360 --> 01:38:53.360] But they're going to claim that they're not scientists, they're not doctors, they're not dentists. [01:38:53.360 --> 01:39:00.360] How can they resolve the issue between two sets of experts? [01:39:00.360 --> 01:39:05.360] But even the CDC and the ADA say babies should get zero fluoride. [01:39:05.360 --> 01:39:08.360] Oh, absolutely. That's where we've got really firm ground. [01:39:08.360 --> 01:39:09.360] There you go. [01:39:09.360 --> 01:39:11.360] Yeah, there we go. [01:39:11.360 --> 01:39:18.360] All we have to do is convince an ordinary person of reasonable prudence. [01:39:18.360 --> 01:39:22.360] That's what our jury is. That's what these guys have to deal with. [01:39:22.360 --> 01:39:27.360] When we start talking about them putting this in baby formula, [01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:34.360] if you're going to court and you really want the jury on your side, wave a puppy dog at them or a baby. [01:39:34.360 --> 01:39:36.360] And pets are affected, too. [01:39:36.360 --> 01:39:40.360] Yeah, the dogs are very vulnerable to fluoride, absolutely, and horses. [01:39:40.360 --> 01:39:45.360] You wave cats and dogs in front of the jury, they're toast. [01:39:45.360 --> 01:39:50.360] I mean, that may sound facetious, but that is real. [01:39:50.360 --> 01:39:57.360] People will be more angry at you for hurting a pet than a child. [01:39:57.360 --> 01:40:01.360] All right, so folks, if you want to be party to the lawsuit, a co-plaintiff, [01:40:01.360 --> 01:40:05.360] and there's no liability here as the plaintiff, you call the shots. [01:40:05.360 --> 01:40:25.360] Actually, email info at fluoridefreeaustin.com. [01:40:25.360 --> 01:40:27.360] Instead of emailing me, email Linda. [01:40:27.360 --> 01:40:33.360] Let's let Linda do the legwork for organizing the list because I've got so much on my plate right now, [01:40:33.360 --> 01:40:36.360] we've got to start putting together this lawsuit. [01:40:36.360 --> 01:40:40.360] They'll actually be reaching Ray Nadler Olenek. [01:40:40.360 --> 01:40:44.360] She has had a wonderful college student help her with our website, [01:40:44.360 --> 01:40:51.360] and so they'll be sending that info to Ray, who's not able to speak tonight. [01:40:51.360 --> 01:40:55.360] You know, there's a wonderful resource that you have here in Austin. [01:40:55.360 --> 01:40:58.360] It's a person I've known for over 20 years. [01:40:58.360 --> 01:41:03.360] I've worked with him on environmental issues, and that's Dr. Neil Carman. [01:41:03.360 --> 01:41:07.360] He used to work with the Air Pollution Authority in Texas. [01:41:07.360 --> 01:41:12.360] He's now one of the experts in the Sierra Club. [01:41:12.360 --> 01:41:18.360] He knows, I think a lot of people know and respect Dr. Neil Carman, [01:41:18.360 --> 01:41:24.360] and he's been very involved in trying to stop Austin fluoridating its water. [01:41:24.360 --> 01:41:29.360] And Dr. Neil Carman of the Sierra Club has sent the City Water Utilities, [01:41:29.360 --> 01:41:35.360] the Austin Environmental Board, as well as the City Council an enormous amount of information, [01:41:35.360 --> 01:41:39.360] especially when they came out with a whitewash job. [01:41:39.360 --> 01:41:42.360] He sent them about a 14-page rebuttal, [01:41:42.360 --> 01:41:47.360] and he did let them know that the National Sierra Club has come out [01:41:47.360 --> 01:41:53.360] and said that they do not recommend fluoridating our water, the National Sierra Club. [01:41:53.360 --> 01:41:56.360] And you know, there's one thing that people should know, [01:41:56.360 --> 01:42:01.360] and there's no argument about the fact that fluoride, [01:42:01.360 --> 01:42:04.360] naturally occurring fluoride, damages health, [01:42:04.360 --> 01:42:12.360] because millions of people in India, China, parts of Africa and Mexico have been damaged by fluoride. [01:42:12.360 --> 01:42:14.360] No question about that, no argument. [01:42:14.360 --> 01:42:19.360] The only argument is about whether or not there's an adequate margin of safety [01:42:19.360 --> 01:42:24.360] between the doses which cause harm in India, China and elsewhere [01:42:24.360 --> 01:42:29.360] and the doses that people are likely to get in a fluoridated community. [01:42:29.360 --> 01:42:32.360] And that's when you get into the preposterous notion of this practice, [01:42:32.360 --> 01:42:35.360] because you can't control the dose. [01:42:35.360 --> 01:42:38.360] Some people drink a very large amount of water, [01:42:38.360 --> 01:42:42.360] and babies proportionally, because they have such small body weight, [01:42:42.360 --> 01:42:48.360] are impacted by even the same, they drink almost the same amount as adults, [01:42:48.360 --> 01:42:51.360] maybe three quarters of the amount of water that some adults drink, [01:42:51.360 --> 01:42:54.360] but their body weight is so small. [01:42:54.360 --> 01:42:58.360] So you can't control the dose, you can't control who gets it, [01:42:58.360 --> 01:43:02.360] and yet we know the substance has caused enormous health damage [01:43:02.360 --> 01:43:06.360] in India, China and other places in the world. [01:43:06.360 --> 01:43:08.360] In four parts per million. [01:43:08.360 --> 01:43:16.360] Yeah, and also the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, in 2003, [01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:23.360] asked the National Research Council to examine the toxicology of fluoride in water [01:43:23.360 --> 01:43:30.360] to see if their drinking water standard of four parts per million was safe. [01:43:30.360 --> 01:43:34.360] Well, the National Research Council spent three years, looked at all the data, [01:43:34.360 --> 01:43:39.360] came back with a 507-page report and said your standard is not safe. [01:43:39.360 --> 01:43:41.360] It needs to be lowered. [01:43:41.360 --> 01:43:47.360] And that was four years ago, and they still have not done the necessary analysis. [01:43:47.360 --> 01:43:50.360] The EPA still hasn't done anything about this report. [01:43:50.360 --> 01:43:51.360] No, no. [01:43:51.360 --> 01:43:53.360] The city has imputed knowledge. 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[01:46:25.360 --> 01:46:27.360] Okay, so this is amazing. [01:46:27.360 --> 01:46:30.360] The National Research Council comes out with this report. [01:46:30.360 --> 01:46:34.360] It's four years old, and the EPA still has not revised its standards. [01:46:34.360 --> 01:46:38.360] But as far as strategy for lawsuits is concerned, [01:46:38.360 --> 01:46:41.360] I don't think it's such a good move to try to sue the EPA. [01:46:41.360 --> 01:46:46.360] I don't really in general think it's a good idea to go after the feds that much [01:46:46.360 --> 01:46:50.360] to try to make it filter down to the local level. [01:46:50.360 --> 01:46:54.360] We need to go after the perps, the culprits themselves who are responsible [01:46:54.360 --> 01:46:57.360] for making the decision to put it in the water. [01:46:57.360 --> 01:46:59.360] And as Randy says, they are responsible at this point. [01:46:59.360 --> 01:47:03.360] There's plenty of data, plenty of reports out there. [01:47:03.360 --> 01:47:05.360] You sue one city. [01:47:05.360 --> 01:47:09.360] Every city in the country will know. [01:47:09.360 --> 01:47:10.360] They'll get a report. [01:47:10.360 --> 01:47:12.360] Everybody will know what we're doing to them. [01:47:12.360 --> 01:47:18.360] Hey, Randy, does the water treatment plant count as motorized equipment? [01:47:18.360 --> 01:47:19.360] That's a good point. [01:47:19.360 --> 01:47:24.360] They'll probably argue around that one. [01:47:24.360 --> 01:47:26.360] Well, if it's got a motor, it's motorized equipment. [01:47:26.360 --> 01:47:32.360] Okay, Doctor, the reason he said that is if you are injured by a public employee [01:47:32.360 --> 01:47:37.360] while operating a motorized piece of equipment that belongs to the city, [01:47:37.360 --> 01:47:42.360] the city waives its sovereign immunity. [01:47:42.360 --> 01:47:47.360] And we actually did tour the water treatment plant here in Austin, [01:47:47.360 --> 01:47:55.360] and it is injected 1,200 tons a year or injected into our water from a machine. [01:47:55.360 --> 01:47:57.360] With a motor, I'm sure. [01:47:57.360 --> 01:48:00.360] It's not just shoveled in by hand. [01:48:00.360 --> 01:48:02.360] All right, we've got a caller on the line. [01:48:02.360 --> 01:48:06.360] Callers, listeners, if you'd like to ask Dr. Paul Connett a question [01:48:06.360 --> 01:48:09.360] or speak with Linda Green from Fluoride Free Austin, [01:48:09.360 --> 01:48:11.360] we are in our final segment here. [01:48:11.360 --> 01:48:14.360] This is a fabulous opportunity to talk to Dr. Connett. [01:48:14.360 --> 01:48:17.360] We've got Mitchell in Texas on the line. [01:48:17.360 --> 01:48:19.360] Mitchell, thank you for calling in. [01:48:19.360 --> 01:48:22.360] What is your question or comment on the fluoride issue? [01:48:22.360 --> 01:48:26.360] On the aspect of who to sue or who to go after, [01:48:26.360 --> 01:48:31.360] it's my opinion that you go after the person actually doing the crime, [01:48:31.360 --> 01:48:33.360] not the person who told them to do it. [01:48:33.360 --> 01:48:36.360] You go to the person who's actually doing it. [01:48:36.360 --> 01:48:42.360] In that regard, I had hoped to find something in the Texas Occupations Code [01:48:42.360 --> 01:48:48.360] regarding practice of medicine without a license is prohibited, [01:48:48.360 --> 01:48:50.360] but I think there's something better. [01:48:50.360 --> 01:48:58.360] 256.001 of the Occupations Code is under the dental section, [01:48:58.360 --> 01:49:02.360] and it says a person may not practice or offer to practice dentistry [01:49:02.360 --> 01:49:06.360] or dental surgery or represent that the person practices dentistry [01:49:06.360 --> 01:49:09.360] unless the person holds a license issued by the board. [01:49:09.360 --> 01:49:16.360] Then section 251.003 says practice of dentistry for purposes of this subtitle. [01:49:16.360 --> 01:49:20.360] A person practices dentistry if the person, [01:49:20.360 --> 01:49:22.360] and then you sort of got to read on further, [01:49:22.360 --> 01:49:26.360] but one of them is directly or indirectly offers, undertakes, [01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:32.360] or causes another to perform for any person an act, service, [01:49:32.360 --> 01:49:36.360] or part of an act or service in the practices of dentistry, [01:49:36.360 --> 01:49:39.360] including aiding or abetting the practice of dentistry [01:49:39.360 --> 01:49:43.360] by a person not licensed by the board to practice dentistry. [01:49:43.360 --> 01:49:47.360] And then the kicker, getting back to your injunction, Deborah, [01:49:47.360 --> 01:49:53.360] is 264.051, again under the dental subsection, says injunction. [01:49:53.360 --> 01:49:59.360] The state shall file suit for injunction against the person who practices [01:49:59.360 --> 01:50:03.360] or intends to practice dentistry in violation of state law. [01:50:03.360 --> 01:50:06.360] The suit shall be filed in the county in which the defendant practices [01:50:06.360 --> 01:50:08.360] or intends to practice dentistry. [01:50:08.360 --> 01:50:13.360] Then subsection B, the state is not required to demonstrate [01:50:13.360 --> 01:50:17.360] that any person was injured by the alleged prohibited practice. [01:50:17.360 --> 01:50:19.360] Wow. [01:50:19.360 --> 01:50:22.360] Yeah, now here's a good point to add to that. [01:50:22.360 --> 01:50:26.360] Considering what it says there, Randy, [01:50:26.360 --> 01:50:29.360] this would mean that if the city wishes to have a defense, [01:50:29.360 --> 01:50:34.360] they would have to name some dentist that acted in accordance with city policy [01:50:34.360 --> 01:50:39.360] to allow this to go in, and all of this falls directly on his head. [01:50:39.360 --> 01:50:40.360] No, no, wait, wait, no, no, no. [01:50:40.360 --> 01:50:44.360] They would have to put a dentist in that full-air charged acid suit [01:50:44.360 --> 01:50:47.360] to get him out there putting that crap in the water. [01:50:47.360 --> 01:50:52.360] Yeah, and I would also think that there would have to be at least four dentists [01:50:52.360 --> 01:50:56.360] on the city council because they are the ones who are actually at the heart [01:50:56.360 --> 01:50:59.360] of practicing dentistry because they're the ones that make the decision. [01:50:59.360 --> 01:51:02.360] And Mitchell, while I agree with you of suing the people [01:51:02.360 --> 01:51:04.360] who are actually putting it in the water, [01:51:04.360 --> 01:51:07.360] the city council members themselves are directly responsible [01:51:07.360 --> 01:51:10.360] because they are the ones who have decided to do this [01:51:10.360 --> 01:51:13.360] and to use city funds to make it happen. [01:51:13.360 --> 01:51:18.360] So I say there needs to be a list of co-defendants, the city of Austin itself, [01:51:18.360 --> 01:51:25.360] the city council members who voted for this personally, and the individuals, [01:51:25.360 --> 01:51:27.360] the humans who are actually putting it in the water. [01:51:27.360 --> 01:51:32.360] All of them need to be on the co-defendant list as well as the director [01:51:32.360 --> 01:51:34.360] of the health department. [01:51:34.360 --> 01:51:37.360] I have to get a point on that though. [01:51:37.360 --> 01:51:45.360] In 1971 or whatever, wasn't it a citizens referendum that essentially instructed [01:51:45.360 --> 01:51:52.360] the city council at that time to provide or to inject fluoride into the water? [01:51:52.360 --> 01:51:58.360] It started out as a referendum, but it was a city council that voted it in. [01:51:58.360 --> 01:52:02.360] But again, just sort of playing with the reality of the council. [01:52:02.360 --> 01:52:03.360] They're still responsible. [01:52:03.360 --> 01:52:07.360] They could make an argument that, well, we were just following the citizens. [01:52:07.360 --> 01:52:09.360] But it wasn't that. [01:52:09.360 --> 01:52:12.360] There are new city council members now that have new information, [01:52:12.360 --> 01:52:14.360] so they can't fall back on that. [01:52:14.360 --> 01:52:17.360] Monkey see, monkey do does not apply in law. [01:52:17.360 --> 01:52:19.360] Look, you're preaching in the choir there. [01:52:19.360 --> 01:52:25.360] I guess my main point was to point out there seems to be very easy to prove [01:52:25.360 --> 01:52:27.360] violations of state law here. [01:52:27.360 --> 01:52:28.360] That's good. [01:52:28.360 --> 01:52:33.360] A directives in the law that says what shall be the remedy. [01:52:33.360 --> 01:52:42.360] We sue the actor who put it in and name the council respondeet superior. [01:52:42.360 --> 01:52:43.360] Right. [01:52:43.360 --> 01:52:44.360] I'm going to jump off. [01:52:44.360 --> 01:52:47.360] They're all going to be on the list, every single one of them, [01:52:47.360 --> 01:52:51.360] and they're going to have to hire their own attorneys to petition [01:52:51.360 --> 01:52:54.360] and file motions to get themselves dismissed as defendants. [01:52:54.360 --> 01:52:57.360] And remember, the plaintiffs, you know, [01:52:57.360 --> 01:53:01.360] it's the plaintiffs that can decide what defendants to dismiss [01:53:01.360 --> 01:53:04.360] and what defendants not dismiss or the court can. [01:53:04.360 --> 01:53:07.360] But the bottom line is once they're named as defendants, [01:53:07.360 --> 01:53:09.360] they're in hot water, so to speak. [01:53:09.360 --> 01:53:10.360] All right. [01:53:10.360 --> 01:53:11.360] We've got a couple of other callers on the line. [01:53:11.360 --> 01:53:12.360] We've only got five minutes left. [01:53:12.360 --> 01:53:13.360] We've got Jimbo in Texas. [01:53:13.360 --> 01:53:17.360] What is your question or comment for Dr. Paul Connett? [01:53:17.360 --> 01:53:19.360] Yeah, Paul, I saw your brave new book Saturday night. [01:53:19.360 --> 01:53:22.360] Thank you so much for coming to Austin. [01:53:22.360 --> 01:53:28.360] And how are things looking in terms of us succeeding to actually get [01:53:28.360 --> 01:53:32.360] the fluoride out of the water in Austin, in your opinion? [01:53:32.360 --> 01:53:37.360] Well, I think you've got tremendous resources here and a lot of energy. [01:53:37.360 --> 01:53:42.360] And quite frankly, I've been startled by this discussion tonight. [01:53:42.360 --> 01:53:46.360] I've learned a lot tonight listening to our legal friends here. [01:53:46.360 --> 01:53:51.360] So I think if you add to the legal expertise that we have here, [01:53:51.360 --> 01:53:56.360] plus the scientific expertise of people like Neil Kalman [01:53:56.360 --> 01:54:00.360] and Bill Keele from Alamo Heights who's helping, [01:54:00.360 --> 01:54:06.360] and these wonderful activists, Linda Green and Ray Nadler and Rob Love, [01:54:06.360 --> 01:54:12.360] and the wonderful people at the Brave New World Bookstore, Brave New Bookstore. [01:54:12.360 --> 01:54:13.360] Brave New Books. [01:54:13.360 --> 01:54:15.360] Yeah, Brave New Books. [01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:20.360] And the university people, yeah, I think you've got tremendous potential here. [01:54:20.360 --> 01:54:26.360] We wouldn't have named Austin, Texas as being one of our top three cities [01:54:26.360 --> 01:54:31.360] to fight this campaign if we didn't have a lot of confidence in you folks, [01:54:31.360 --> 01:54:35.360] but that's been reinforced in my visit over the last few days. [01:54:35.360 --> 01:54:37.360] Well, and check out our listeners, too. [01:54:37.360 --> 01:54:39.360] Mitchell calls in with another angle on this. [01:54:39.360 --> 01:54:41.360] They're practicing dentistry without a license. [01:54:41.360 --> 01:54:43.360] That's brilliant. That's absolutely brilliant. [01:54:43.360 --> 01:54:44.360] I love it. [01:54:44.360 --> 01:54:45.360] Yeah. [01:54:45.360 --> 01:54:46.360] Okay, thank you, Jimbo. [01:54:46.360 --> 01:54:47.360] Thank you. [01:54:47.360 --> 01:54:49.360] All right, we've got another caller on the line here. [01:54:49.360 --> 01:54:52.360] We've got Michael Anthony from New York. [01:54:52.360 --> 01:54:55.360] Michael Anthony, what is your question or comment for Dr. Paul Connett [01:54:55.360 --> 01:54:57.360] concerning the fluoride issue? [01:54:57.360 --> 01:54:58.360] Hi, team. [01:54:58.360 --> 01:54:59.360] Good job tonight. [01:54:59.360 --> 01:55:00.360] Excellent. [01:55:00.360 --> 01:55:01.360] Dr. Connett, I love you. [01:55:01.360 --> 01:55:02.360] God bless you. [01:55:02.360 --> 01:55:06.360] I get emails all the time, and I've been following your fluoride path [01:55:06.360 --> 01:55:07.360] and what you're doing. [01:55:07.360 --> 01:55:11.360] Now, when you guys go ahead with going after the city of Austin, [01:55:11.360 --> 01:55:13.360] is that going to be available? [01:55:13.360 --> 01:55:16.360] Because I want to do the same thing to our little town that I belong to. [01:55:16.360 --> 01:55:20.360] Well, of course, because once we file the lawsuit, it's a public document, [01:55:20.360 --> 01:55:24.360] so yes, but we're not going to post the document until it's filed. [01:55:24.360 --> 01:55:28.360] Michael, which town in New York are you from? [01:55:28.360 --> 01:55:30.360] South of Buffalo. [01:55:30.360 --> 01:55:31.360] Oh, okay. [01:55:31.360 --> 01:55:33.360] South of Buffalo, New York. [01:55:33.360 --> 01:55:34.360] Excellent, excellent. [01:55:34.360 --> 01:55:37.360] Well, we got it out of Canton, New York, [01:55:37.360 --> 01:55:40.360] and you know they don't fluoridate Albany, the capital of New York, [01:55:40.360 --> 01:55:43.360] and there's no fluoridation in Long Island, [01:55:43.360 --> 01:55:46.360] so we've got quite a number of problems. [01:55:46.360 --> 01:55:50.360] And Ithaca, Ithaca, a university town, does not fluoridate its water, [01:55:50.360 --> 01:55:54.360] so we have a lot of good places that are not fluoridated. [01:55:54.360 --> 01:55:55.360] I was just in Ithaca. [01:55:55.360 --> 01:55:56.360] Well, we should have gone home like that. [01:55:56.360 --> 01:56:00.360] I should have took a bath while I was there. [01:56:00.360 --> 01:56:02.360] Yeah, you should have. [01:56:02.360 --> 01:56:03.360] That's great. [01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:04.360] All right, anything else, Michael? [01:56:04.360 --> 01:56:07.360] Yeah, my cousin works in the water treatment plant, [01:56:07.360 --> 01:56:09.360] and I spoke to him about the fluoride, [01:56:09.360 --> 01:56:14.360] and he said they have to do it because they're mandated by the state of New York. [01:56:14.360 --> 01:56:19.360] Well, fortunately, in Texas, there's not a state mandate. [01:56:19.360 --> 01:56:23.360] Okay, well, is there any way we could go after the state in this issue? [01:56:23.360 --> 01:56:26.360] Well, the new state does not have mandatory fluoridation. [01:56:26.360 --> 01:56:28.360] Yeah, how does Ithaca not? [01:56:28.360 --> 01:56:32.360] I think your guy has been pulling the wool over his eyes. [01:56:32.360 --> 01:56:33.360] Yeah. [01:56:33.360 --> 01:56:35.360] Well, he's been told some misinformation. [01:56:35.360 --> 01:56:38.360] Yeah, they haven't been mandated from New York State. [01:56:38.360 --> 01:56:42.360] They'd be mandated maybe from the local council [01:56:42.360 --> 01:56:46.360] by either a council decision. [01:56:46.360 --> 01:56:48.360] All right, Michael, listen, we're almost at the end of the show. [01:56:48.360 --> 01:56:50.360] Thank you for calling in. [01:56:50.360 --> 01:56:51.360] Thank you very much. [01:56:51.360 --> 01:56:52.360] Okay, bye-bye. [01:56:52.360 --> 01:56:54.360] Okay, we've just got a couple of minutes left. [01:56:54.360 --> 01:56:58.360] Dr. Khanna, any closing comments, please? [01:56:58.360 --> 01:57:00.360] Well, you've given me a lot of hope tonight, [01:57:00.360 --> 01:57:04.360] and I think what we're asking for is an absolute minimum, [01:57:04.360 --> 01:57:08.360] and that is that the warning notice goes out to parents. [01:57:08.360 --> 01:57:11.360] The parents should know whether they think it's good [01:57:11.360 --> 01:57:15.360] or that the dental ferocis is acceptable or not. [01:57:15.360 --> 01:57:16.360] It doesn't matter. [01:57:16.360 --> 01:57:20.360] Parents need to be warned before their children develop this thing, [01:57:20.360 --> 01:57:22.360] and it's very easy. [01:57:22.360 --> 01:57:26.360] I mean, if you're bottle-feeding your baby, [01:57:26.360 --> 01:57:29.360] don't use fluoridated tap water. [01:57:29.360 --> 01:57:31.360] We at least should begin with that, [01:57:31.360 --> 01:57:36.360] but I'm very excited about the potential of these lawsuits seeking injunction. [01:57:36.360 --> 01:57:38.360] Yes, injunction. [01:57:38.360 --> 01:57:42.360] We're going to seek injunction that the warnings be posted on the water bills [01:57:42.360 --> 01:57:47.360] until such time that action can be taken to get the fluoride out of the water. [01:57:47.360 --> 01:57:49.360] We're not going to just stop at that. [01:57:49.360 --> 01:57:54.360] And, Linda, you wanted to plug a YouTube video that you want folks to make it go viral? [01:57:54.360 --> 01:57:55.360] Yes. [01:57:55.360 --> 01:58:00.360] All three of our speakers last Thursday in front of City Council are on YouTube, [01:58:00.360 --> 01:58:05.360] and you can go to Dr. Paul Connett speaks to Austin City Council [01:58:05.360 --> 01:58:08.360] and come out tomorrow night to Houston-Tillerson University [01:58:08.360 --> 01:58:12.360] and hear him speak for two more hours and get educated. [01:58:12.360 --> 01:58:17.360] All right, and you can go to fluoridefreeaustin.com, spell it flu, makes you sick. [01:58:17.360 --> 01:58:25.360] You can go to fluoridealert.org to see the website of Dr. Paul Connett. [01:58:25.360 --> 01:58:27.360] He's the director of the Fluoride Action Network. [01:58:27.360 --> 01:58:29.360] Dr. Connett, thank you for spending so much time with us tonight. [01:58:29.360 --> 01:58:30.360] We really appreciate it. [01:58:30.360 --> 01:58:32.360] It's been an inspiration listening to you guys. [01:58:32.360 --> 01:58:33.360] Thank you. [01:58:33.360 --> 01:58:34.360] Thank you. [01:58:34.360 --> 01:58:37.360] All right, folks, and we will resume with traffic night. [01:58:37.360 --> 01:58:42.360] Eddie's traffic night will be resumed on Thursday, this coming Thursday. [01:58:42.360 --> 01:58:47.360] Y'all have a very blessed evening. [01:59:12.360 --> 01:59:14.360] Thank you. [01:59:42.360 --> 01:59:44.360] Thank you.