[00:00.000 --> 00:07.000]  22 people were killed in Afghanistan Wednesday when a vehicle headed to a wedding party and
[00:09.700 --> 00:15.080]  a school bus carrying students hit roadside bombs. The incidents which occurred in different
[00:15.080 --> 00:20.520]  districts of Nimruz province are the latest to result from improvised explosive devices
[00:20.520 --> 00:26.680]  regarded as the top killer of civilians. A Tennessee pilot who says he's tired of being
[00:26.680 --> 00:31.960]  manhandled by security agents is waiting to see if he will lose his job because he refused
[00:31.960 --> 00:37.560]  a full body scan. Express Jet Airlines First Officer Michael Roberts was chosen for the
[00:37.560 --> 00:43.160]  x-ray scan Friday at Memphis International Airport. Roberts, who refused their pat down,
[00:43.160 --> 00:48.160]  called the Transportation Safety Administration a make-work program that doesn't make travel
[00:48.160 --> 00:55.160]  safer. Two Texas school districts are using radio frequency identification chips to monitor
[00:55.160 --> 01:01.840]  student attendance. The RFI chips inserted in student ID cards have raised privacy concerns
[01:01.840 --> 01:07.160]  in the community. Students protesting the draconian policy are wearing their IDs taped
[01:07.160 --> 01:14.160]  to their foreheads. Britain's coalition government is reviving plans to store details of every
[01:14.200 --> 01:19.800]  internet, click, email and phone call. Police, security services and other public bodies
[01:19.800 --> 01:24.200]  would be able to find out which websites a person had visited and when, where and to
[01:24.200 --> 01:29.960]  whom a text or call was made. Security officials insist this is vital in the fight against
[01:29.960 --> 01:35.640]  terrorism and organized crime. But the plan, which was shelved by the previous Labour government
[01:35.640 --> 01:40.320]  after a public outcry, will put the government on the collision course with civil liberties
[01:40.320 --> 01:46.020]  groups which argue it is a snooper's charter which will allow the state to spy on millions
[01:46.020 --> 01:52.440]  of innocent citizens. One official said communications data has played a role in every major security
[01:52.440 --> 01:58.920]  service counter-terrorism operation and in 95% of all serious organized crime investigations
[01:58.920 --> 02:05.680]  in recent years. Many mid-term election candidates, both Republican and Democrat, are treating
[02:05.680 --> 02:11.280]  the news media as enemies, refusing to release schedules, admit the press to campaign events,
[02:11.280 --> 02:16.480]  give interviews or answer routine questions. Journalists are finding it unusually hard
[02:16.480 --> 02:22.040]  to get routine information. Shutting out reporters could compromise voters' ability to get fair
[02:22.040 --> 02:27.160]  accounts of who candidates and their financial backers are and where they stand, leaving
[02:27.160 --> 02:33.280]  them dependent on propaganda packages by candidates and their supporters. Stephen Green, Associate
[02:33.280 --> 02:37.880]  Professor of Political Science at North Carolina State University said, �It's only going
[02:37.880 --> 02:42.600]  to spread and it's not a good thing for our democracy.� Republican Senate candidate
[02:42.600 --> 02:49.120]  Sharon Angles, supporters at a Las Vegas rally last Thursday, passed word to attendees not
[02:49.120 --> 02:56.120]  to talk to the press.
[03:19.120 --> 03:36.120]  �Bad boys, what you gonna do when sheriff's unbroken for you? Tell me, what you gonna
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[03:44.560 --> 03:48.060]  Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
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[04:10.060 --> 04:15.560]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:15.560 --> 04:18.560]  You're chockied on that one, you're chockied on this one
[04:18.560 --> 04:21.060]  You're chockied on your mother, no you're Chockied on your father
[04:21.060 --> 04:24.060]  You're chockied on your brother, no you're Chockied on your sister
[04:24.060 --> 04:26.560]  You're chockied on that one, no you're Chockied on me
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[04:31.560 --> 04:37.060]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:37.060 --> 05:01.120]  Okay, folks, what are you going to do, bad boys and bad girls, when we come for you here
[05:01.120 --> 05:15.860]  on the Rule of Law, today is Thursday, October 21st, 2010, and we have some announcements
[05:15.860 --> 05:21.260]  to make tonight. We've got a guest, Harlan Dietrich from Brave New Books is going to
[05:21.260 --> 05:26.820]  be speaking in just a moment, but before that, I have just been informed by one of the other
[05:26.820 --> 05:32.540]  hosts on this network, Tom Kiley, I wish we had known about this, we would have been plugging
[05:32.540 --> 05:37.540]  it all week long. In fact, I'm going to make a PSA as soon as we get off the air tonight.
[05:37.540 --> 05:43.500]  Dr. Crockett Graby, one of our very own from here in Austin, Texas, from Sea Lane Research
[05:43.500 --> 05:50.700]  and Consulting is giving a speech at 10 a.m., a one-hour speech from 10 to 11 a.m. this
[05:50.700 --> 05:57.860]  Saturday, October 23rd, at the Austin Convention Center at the Austin Science and Engineering
[05:57.860 --> 06:03.500]  Festival. He's going to be giving a talk on physics and the collapse at the World Trade
[06:03.500 --> 06:10.380]  Center, and he's going to be showing how the government's story about fires causing this
[06:10.380 --> 06:15.460]  collapse is total bunk. He's going to be talking about the nanothermite, everything. He's going
[06:15.460 --> 06:20.980]  to be talking about the physics concerning the collapse at the World Trade Center, building
[06:20.980 --> 06:24.900]  one, two, and seven. Now, folks, this is a big deal. I just found out about this, but
[06:24.900 --> 06:30.820]  the Austin Science and Engineering Festival, that's a festival for kids, so this is a huge
[06:30.820 --> 06:36.180]  deal, okay, because that means that all these young minds are going to be exposed to the
[06:36.180 --> 06:42.460]  truth, and so definitely, folks, everybody out there that's hearing this right now, get
[06:42.460 --> 06:48.780]  down to the Austin Convention Center before 10 a.m. this Saturday, October 23rd, free
[06:48.780 --> 06:55.260]  admission. It doesn't cost anything. Got to be there to support our very own Dr. Crockett
[06:55.260 --> 07:06.140]  Graby. That's G-R-A-B-B-E, and you can find out more about that by going to austinsciencefestival.org,
[07:06.140 --> 07:19.220]  that's how it sounds, all one word, austinsciencefestival.org, and you can click on the link where it discusses
[07:19.220 --> 07:24.900]  a lecture series. You'll see there's four boxes, planning your expo visit, events and
[07:24.900 --> 07:28.300]  activities, what you'll find at the expo, and then lecture series. Click on the lecture
[07:28.300 --> 07:32.900]  series, and you'll see him right there at the top, physics and the collapse of the World
[07:32.900 --> 07:38.980]  Trade Center. Dr. Crockett Graby at 10 a.m. this Saturday, Austin Convention Center, Austin
[07:38.980 --> 07:44.380]  Science and Engineering Festival, so folks, get out there and support Dr. Crockett Graby.
[07:44.380 --> 07:49.820]  Okay, now we've got Harlan Dietrich on the line, who has his own event that he wants
[07:49.820 --> 07:51.860]  to talk about. Thanks for joining us, Harlan.
[07:51.860 --> 07:56.860]  Wow, thank you, Deborah. Thanks for having me on. I'm just curious though, is Dr. Crockett
[07:56.860 --> 08:03.620]  Graby, is he a member of the AE Architects, the Architects and Engineers from 9-11 Troupe?
[08:03.620 --> 08:09.980]  I believe he is, I am not sure though. He's been on Tom Keiley's show before, and I don't
[08:09.980 --> 08:14.460]  have the information on him right now, but I do believe he is a signature on A&E 9-11.
[08:14.460 --> 08:21.340]  Okay, wonderful, because I just wasn't hoping that he would give a brainwashing, nist sort
[08:21.340 --> 08:25.300]  of run down of physics to the children. No, he's not going to give any kind of brainwashing
[08:25.300 --> 08:29.020]  he's been on, he's been a guest on Tom Keiley's show, I've listened to his interviews now.
[08:29.020 --> 08:32.260]  Oh, wonderful, okay, well yeah, I'll have to put out a flyer and put it in the store
[08:32.260 --> 08:34.700]  for him then. Yeah, he's definitely the real deal, he's
[08:34.700 --> 08:38.900]  not going to be Mockingbird of Nist or anything like that, no, he's going to be telling the
[08:38.900 --> 08:46.460]  truth. Excellent. Well, if people still have nothing
[08:46.460 --> 08:54.140]  to do on the next day, on Sunday, we have a real special treat for people, if they want
[08:54.140 --> 08:59.860]  to come down to the U.S. Art Authority, which is at 29th and Guadalupe, just up the street
[08:59.860 --> 09:06.260]  from the bookstore about ten blocks, we'll be having Jim Mars give a talk on his new
[09:06.260 --> 09:13.180]  book, The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy, How the New World Order, Man-Made Diseases, and
[09:13.180 --> 09:19.540]  Zombie Banks are Destroying America, and actually Jim is writing a new book on 9-11, and I've
[09:19.540 --> 09:25.620]  asked him to say a few words about his new book as well, so there's going to be a tie-in
[09:25.620 --> 09:32.100]  there with some new 9-11 revelations, so it's going to be a really fun event, I want to
[09:32.100 --> 09:37.220]  encourage everybody to come out and help support the bookstore, it's sort of a benefit for
[09:37.220 --> 09:43.540]  the bookstore, so there'll be a $10 charge at the door, but it'll go to help us do more
[09:43.540 --> 09:52.940]  events like this, and the theme of the event is a zombie costume ball, so you can come
[09:52.940 --> 09:58.740]  dressed as your favorite zombie, you know, and go out and buy one of those Fox News hats
[09:58.740 --> 10:06.060]  or something and put that on, and dress yourself up like a zombie, or put some costume together
[10:06.060 --> 10:10.900]  and come as your favorite zombie, and we'll be giving out prizes for the best dressed
[10:10.900 --> 10:13.740]  zombie, so it's going to be a real fun time.
[10:13.740 --> 10:18.820]  Yes, and I certainly encourage everyone out there to go to the event and support Harlan,
[10:18.820 --> 10:23.140]  support the bookstore, because we certainly need Brave New Books here in Austin, it's
[10:23.140 --> 10:27.980]  a great place to meet, it's a great place to hang out, there's even a little venue
[10:27.980 --> 10:34.380]  in the back there where folks can sit, sometimes you'll have events there, and performances,
[10:34.380 --> 10:41.260]  and lecture series and such, so everyone get out there and support Brave New Books.
[10:41.260 --> 10:46.700]  Yeah, we really appreciate it, and you know, we can only exist with people's support, we're
[10:46.700 --> 10:53.180]  not, you know, foundation funded, and we're not a non-profit, so there's no tax write
[10:53.180 --> 10:59.980]  off when people donate, so we really do just rely on people giving and people buying our
[10:59.980 --> 11:05.980]  books, so we, you know, in these tough economic times, we know everybody's hurting, and the
[11:05.980 --> 11:11.860]  bookstore certainly is hurting, but it really is an important resource, you know, we believe
[11:11.860 --> 11:18.020]  that we've helped be a sort of centrifugal force here in the community to help organize
[11:18.020 --> 11:23.100]  and help provide a space for people to come and find like-minded people and talk about
[11:23.100 --> 11:28.060]  some of these issues, and also to hear great information, and you know, we've probably
[11:28.060 --> 11:36.420]  handed out close to 30,000 DVDs, so that's a lot of DVDs we've handed out here at the
[11:36.420 --> 11:44.220]  bookstore, and that is entirely due to people being able to support us, so, you know, when
[11:44.220 --> 11:50.900]  you buy from Amazon, you're just supporting some big, you know, ubiquitous warehouse somewhere
[11:50.900 --> 11:56.500]  that, you know, that doesn't really have any, you know, belief in what you believe, it doesn't
[11:56.500 --> 12:01.300]  really support what you believe, or if you buy from some people who just are doing it
[12:01.300 --> 12:05.700]  out of their garages, you know, they're just in it for the buck, and they're not really
[12:05.700 --> 12:13.100]  there to, you know, to help further any of these topics, but when you buy from us, you
[12:13.100 --> 12:18.820]  know, you directly support things like the radio network, or you, you know, support the
[12:18.820 --> 12:25.420]  activists that meet here, so there is a bit of a difference from buying from us or buying
[12:25.420 --> 12:30.820]  from some of the other sources out there, so I encourage people to think about that
[12:30.820 --> 12:37.580]  and to come out and help us, because, you know, it is a community, and, you know, we
[12:37.580 --> 12:41.980]  love being a part of the community, but we want to stay a part of the community, so.
[12:41.980 --> 12:46.140]  And we need you to stay a part of the community, Harlan, and folks out there, if you don't
[12:46.140 --> 12:57.180]  live in Austin, you can still order books from Brave New Books at www.bravenewbookstore.com,
[12:57.180 --> 13:04.620]  and also, Harlan, you can order any book, right, not just, not just truth-oriented,
[13:04.620 --> 13:09.620]  conspiracy-oriented, so to speak, type books, but you can, so folks, you mentioned Amazon,
[13:09.620 --> 13:13.220]  you know, instead, folks out there, instead of ordering on Amazon, why don't you call
[13:13.220 --> 13:16.940]  up Harlan at Brave New Books and he'll order your book for you, you can order any book,
[13:16.940 --> 13:17.940]  right, Harlan?
[13:17.940 --> 13:22.180]  Yeah, I will certainly try, sometimes it's a little difficult for us to find every book,
[13:22.180 --> 13:28.220]  but give us a call and we will certainly, you know, myself or one of my staff will certainly
[13:28.220 --> 13:34.340]  try to hunt down that book and get it to you, so, yeah, we got Christmas coming up, a lot
[13:34.340 --> 13:38.300]  of people like, you know, cook books, a lot of people like, you know, other books that
[13:38.300 --> 13:45.340]  aren't necessarily truth-oriented books or activist-oriented books or history, so, you
[13:45.340 --> 13:50.100]  know, if you have some titles in mind, please, yeah, try to keep us in mind and give us a
[13:50.100 --> 13:55.620]  call and we'd be more than happy to look for that book, so, yeah, that's definitely an
[13:55.620 --> 14:03.020]  option and I have the ability to find books just like most bookstores do, so I have those
[14:03.020 --> 14:09.140]  options at my fingertips, so, maybe instead of supporting some other bookstore, you know,
[14:09.140 --> 14:13.260]  Borders or Barnes and Noble, you know, not the main names, but, you know, some of the
[14:13.260 --> 14:18.660]  big block guys, you know, maybe you could come help support a, you know, fiercely independent
[14:18.660 --> 14:20.460]  bookstore like mine, so.
[14:20.460 --> 14:24.780]  Absolutely, and Rule of Law Radio is going to, we're going to do everything we can to
[14:24.780 --> 14:27.060]  be there too, Harlan, Randy and I.
[14:27.060 --> 14:32.500]  That's great, yeah, I know, and I want people to come out and help support you guys, I mean,
[14:32.500 --> 14:38.220]  this is, this is a part of the whole team, you know, effort here, it's always been, you
[14:38.220 --> 14:44.380]  guys have played a lot of our commercials for events and, you know, the radio's always
[14:44.380 --> 14:50.120]  given us a chance to come on and promote some of these events, you know, we're indebted
[14:50.120 --> 14:55.380]  to you guys and it really is a team effort because I've always felt the radio is out
[14:55.380 --> 14:59.260]  there sort of softening up the targets, you know, softening up the minds of the people
[14:59.260 --> 15:04.340]  and then sometimes they have to come in and they have to meet with real people, you know,
[15:04.340 --> 15:10.300]  face to face in a personal way and that's, you know, us at the bookstore, so it's a total
[15:10.300 --> 15:17.460]  team effort and I've always sort of looked at it that way and it's great to have people
[15:17.460 --> 15:22.620]  that are there to support us and it's, you know, that community has only gotten bigger
[15:22.620 --> 15:25.020]  and stronger because of the radio, so.
[15:25.020 --> 15:30.260]  Well, yeah, we definitely support you, Harlan, and it's always, it's a historical fact that
[15:30.260 --> 15:35.380]  movements have always been centered around radio stations and bookstores, so we need
[15:35.380 --> 15:36.380]  to have both.
[15:36.380 --> 15:41.260]  Absolutely, well, there are places where we can share ideas and it's the free exchange
[15:41.260 --> 15:48.140]  of ideas that has built movements and certainly radio stations and certainly bookstores are
[15:48.140 --> 15:49.580]  the centers of those, so.
[15:49.580 --> 15:52.900]  Well, Harlan, we're about to go to break, so why don't you plug your, plug your event
[15:52.900 --> 15:57.300]  one more time, date, time, place, where, how people can find out more info.
[15:57.300 --> 16:03.740]  Okay, well, it's going to be at 29th and Guadalupe, it's the US Art Authority and it's this Sunday,
[16:03.740 --> 16:11.260]  the 24th, and it'll be Jim Maher, so it'll start around 6 p.m. and it might go as late
[16:11.260 --> 16:12.260]  as midnight.
[16:12.260 --> 16:19.620]  Jim will probably go on about 7.30, so it's the US Art Authority, 29th and Guadalupe,
[16:19.620 --> 16:20.620]  this Sunday, 6 p.m.
[16:20.620 --> 16:25.860]  And he'll try to make it out if he can and if you have friends or family who have never
[16:25.860 --> 16:33.660]  heard Jim Maher's before, he's quite an entertainer and he, he, you're guaranteed to have a good
[16:33.660 --> 16:34.660]  time.
[16:34.660 --> 16:36.660]  And he'll try to bring some friends and family with you, too.
[16:36.660 --> 16:37.660]  Who's the band?
[16:37.660 --> 16:38.660]  What band is playing?
[16:38.660 --> 16:43.620]  Oh, we've got a great band, Charlie King from the Asylum Street Spankers and his crew are
[16:43.620 --> 16:45.100]  going to play after Jim speaks.
[16:45.100 --> 16:46.100]  Okay.
[16:46.100 --> 16:47.380]  So we'll have some entertainment as well.
[16:47.380 --> 16:52.060]  Okay, and Randy and I are going to try to get up and say a few words after Jim as well.
[16:52.060 --> 16:53.060]  Yes.
[16:53.060 --> 16:54.060]  Absolutely.
[16:54.060 --> 16:55.060]  Okay.
[16:55.060 --> 16:56.060]  Thanks, Harlan.
[16:56.060 --> 16:57.060]  We'll see you on Sunday.
[16:57.060 --> 16:58.060]  All right.
[16:58.060 --> 16:59.060]  Thank you, Deborah.
[16:59.060 --> 17:00.060]  Thanks, guys.
[17:00.060 --> 17:01.060]  Okay.
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[19:42.780 --> 19:54.740]  Okay, folks, we are back and I just wanted to plug one more lecture at the Austin Science
[19:54.740 --> 19:56.980]  and Engineering Festival.
[19:56.980 --> 19:59.460]  I just got alerted to this one.
[19:59.460 --> 20:06.300]  At noon, there's going to be a lecture on climate gate, the lion that squeaked by Dr. Compton
[20:06.300 --> 20:10.780]  Tucker from NASA Goddard Space Flight Center.
[20:10.780 --> 20:17.300]  He's going to be exposing the fact that global warming is a fraud.
[20:17.300 --> 20:19.780]  Okay, folks, I'm sorry.
[20:19.780 --> 20:21.540]  The earth is not warming, all right?
[20:21.540 --> 20:22.620]  The earth is cooling.
[20:22.620 --> 20:25.380]  For one thing, there is no global warming.
[20:25.380 --> 20:30.980]  For another thing, humans do not cause this kind of climate change.
[20:30.980 --> 20:40.900]  That is a scientific fact, over 30,000 scientists, over 12,000 of which were PhD physicists signed
[20:40.900 --> 20:49.820]  a petition that they gave to Dr. Ron Paul to submit to the House back a few months ago
[20:49.820 --> 20:55.900]  when they were debating over this cap and tax, cap and trade bill stating that humans
[20:55.900 --> 20:58.420]  do not cause global warming.
[20:58.420 --> 21:00.300]  Humans do not cause global cooling.
[21:00.300 --> 21:03.380]  This is caused by the sun, okay, basically.
[21:03.380 --> 21:08.060]  The sun activity causes this type of climate change.
[21:08.060 --> 21:10.380]  Now, that's not to say that humans don't cause pollution.
[21:10.380 --> 21:13.820]  That's not to say that we don't need to do something to keep the environment clean.
[21:13.820 --> 21:18.260]  It's not to say that big business isn't polluting our rivers and streams and air and all these
[21:18.260 --> 21:21.700]  kinds of things, but that has nothing to do with climate change, okay?
[21:21.700 --> 21:31.100]  So at any rate, we've got Dr. Compton Tucker speaking on Climate Gate at noon at the Austin
[21:31.100 --> 21:37.740]  Science and Engineering Festival right here on this Saturday, the 23rd at the Austin Convention
[21:37.740 --> 21:38.740]  Center.
[21:38.740 --> 21:39.740]  Admission is free.
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[21:47.620 --> 21:48.860]  at the World Trade Center.
[21:48.860 --> 21:54.060]  And then at noon, Dr. Compton Tucker on Climate Gate.
[21:54.060 --> 21:57.300]  Okay, so we've got some callers on the line.
[21:57.300 --> 22:00.100]  Eddie, Randy, do you want to start taking calls right away?
[22:00.100 --> 22:02.140]  I love me.
[22:02.140 --> 22:04.580]  Okay, we're going to go to your calls now.
[22:04.580 --> 22:08.900]  Eddie and Randy both have some things to speak about, but we're going to go to calls first
[22:08.900 --> 22:13.060]  since you all have called in and been waiting so patiently since the beginning of the show.
[22:13.060 --> 22:14.740]  We've got Mary in Texas.
[22:14.740 --> 22:16.380]  Mary, thanks for calling in.
[22:16.380 --> 22:17.860]  What's on your mind tonight?
[22:17.860 --> 22:18.860]  Hi, how are you?
[22:18.860 --> 22:19.860]  Pretty good.
[22:19.860 --> 22:23.060]  I'm trying to write an answer to the court.
[22:23.060 --> 22:29.660]  I got served with papers for custody change, and I've been to court before, and I was looking
[22:29.660 --> 22:36.180]  at my old agreement, and it says that in there that I'm supposed to go to mediation before
[22:36.180 --> 22:39.700]  I go back to court, so I wanted to write in the answer.
[22:39.700 --> 22:44.540]  I have sort of an answer in front of me that's a general answer, but I need to add the mediation
[22:44.540 --> 22:48.420]  thing, and I'm not quite sure how to word that.
[22:48.420 --> 22:50.260]  What do you want to add about mediation?
[22:50.260 --> 22:55.060]  Well, should I read you what my agreement says about mediation?
[22:55.060 --> 22:57.060]  Well, it's not too long.
[22:57.060 --> 22:58.060]  It doesn't run on too long.
[22:58.060 --> 23:02.020]  It just says that the court finds all parties agree and is hereby ordered that before any
[23:02.020 --> 23:06.060]  party files suit for modification of the terms of the conservatorship, possession, or support
[23:06.060 --> 23:11.700]  of the children, except in an emergency, that party shall attempt to mediate in good faith.
[23:11.700 --> 23:12.700]  Okay.
[23:12.700 --> 23:14.580]  You initiated the change.
[23:14.580 --> 23:15.580]  You or the other party?
[23:15.580 --> 23:16.580]  The other party.
[23:16.580 --> 23:17.580]  Okay.
[23:17.580 --> 23:18.580]  Do you have an objection to mediation?
[23:18.580 --> 23:19.580]  No.
[23:19.580 --> 23:20.580]  I want mediation.
[23:20.580 --> 23:24.780]  I wanted to answer the court that I have this mediation thing written.
[23:24.780 --> 23:26.340]  I wanted to put that in my answer.
[23:26.340 --> 23:27.580]  I don't know how to word that.
[23:27.580 --> 23:28.580]  Okay.
[23:28.580 --> 23:30.580]  The court has ordered mediation?
[23:30.580 --> 23:31.580]  No.
[23:31.580 --> 23:32.580]  Oh.
[23:32.580 --> 23:33.580]  No.
[23:33.580 --> 23:37.460]  In the previous determination, there was a mediation order issued by the court in the
[23:37.460 --> 23:38.460]  previous instance.
[23:38.460 --> 23:39.460]  Correct.
[23:39.460 --> 23:46.220]  In this regard, all you need to do is just simply attach a copy of the mediation agreement
[23:46.220 --> 23:55.100]  with your motion as an exhibit and state that I hereby request that the mediation as agreed
[23:55.100 --> 24:01.980]  to in the following order, blah, blah, blah, be pursued as required.
[24:01.980 --> 24:08.180]  The other party is moving forward without honoring the agreement of mediation as shown.
[24:08.180 --> 24:09.180]  Okay.
[24:09.180 --> 24:10.180]  Okay.
[24:10.180 --> 24:12.740]  So the answer I have written in front of me says, I blank.
[24:12.740 --> 24:15.740]  I am the respondent in the suit effecting the child parent erasure.
[24:15.740 --> 24:22.660]  I file answer to position one, general denial, to prayer, so I should put a three, I hereby
[24:22.660 --> 24:23.660]  request mediation?
[24:23.660 --> 24:24.660]  No.
[24:24.660 --> 24:25.660]  You could put that in one.
[24:25.660 --> 24:26.660]  Put that in one?
[24:26.660 --> 24:27.660]  Yeah.
[24:27.660 --> 24:31.340]  And then the other ones are two and three?
[24:31.340 --> 24:32.340]  You can do them.
[24:32.340 --> 24:33.940]  Any number of them you need to do.
[24:33.940 --> 24:34.940]  Okay.
[24:34.940 --> 24:40.820]  So I should have three things under my answer, basically, these three things.
[24:40.820 --> 24:42.380]  If you have three things, yes.
[24:42.380 --> 24:48.300]  So it should say, I hereby request that mediation be pursued, and that's it?
[24:48.300 --> 24:52.500]  Well, I wouldn't say pursued.
[24:52.500 --> 24:57.100]  In accordance with the previous agreement in order issued on such and such date and
[24:57.100 --> 25:04.780]  such and such time by such and such judge, respondent hereby request the court to order
[25:04.780 --> 25:09.580]  mediation in accordance with the previous order.
[25:09.580 --> 25:10.580]  Previous order.
[25:10.580 --> 25:11.580]  Okay.
[25:11.580 --> 25:17.660]  So I've got, I hereby request that mediation be in accordance with previous order.
[25:17.660 --> 25:18.660]  No, no.
[25:18.660 --> 25:23.820]  Eddie is saying that you're requesting, you need to request that the court order mediation.
[25:23.820 --> 25:24.820]  Okay.
[25:24.820 --> 25:29.020]  So the request, the court order mediation.
[25:29.020 --> 25:30.020]  Yes.
[25:30.020 --> 25:35.100]  The court order the parties to mediation per the original agreement.
[25:35.100 --> 25:36.100]  Yes.
[25:36.100 --> 25:40.260]  And you can go back, Mary, you can go back and download this archive so you can listen
[25:40.260 --> 25:42.900]  to the whole spiel that Eddie just said.
[25:42.900 --> 25:43.900]  Oh, exactly.
[25:43.900 --> 25:44.900]  Okay.
[25:44.900 --> 25:45.900]  Yeah.
[25:45.900 --> 25:48.100]  By going to ruleoflawradio.com.
[25:48.100 --> 25:51.620]  And then we'll have tonight on there, like for tomorrow it'll be on there?
[25:51.620 --> 25:52.620]  It'll be on later tonight.
[25:52.620 --> 25:56.620]  It'll be okay, because I just get so swamped over what's right.
[25:56.620 --> 25:57.620]  Right.
[25:57.620 --> 26:00.980]  And then you can go back and you can listen to this and you'll be able to hear exactly
[26:00.980 --> 26:01.980]  what Eddie said.
[26:01.980 --> 26:06.140]  But yeah, that's what I was going to say a little while ago, you want the court to order
[26:06.140 --> 26:07.140]  the mediation.
[26:07.140 --> 26:08.140]  Okay.
[26:08.140 --> 26:09.140]  Okay.
[26:09.140 --> 26:17.540]  And so then I mail it to the clerk and the lawyer and that's it, what, this little document?
[26:17.540 --> 26:20.980]  Your motion with a copy of the previous order attached as an exhibit, yes.
[26:20.980 --> 26:21.980]  Okay.
[26:21.980 --> 26:24.580]  So it has to have the whole thing that I previously had, okay.
[26:24.580 --> 26:25.580]  Copy.
[26:25.580 --> 26:26.580]  Yes.
[26:26.580 --> 26:27.580]  Okay.
[26:27.580 --> 26:28.580]  As an exhibit.
[26:28.580 --> 26:31.140]  You would refer to it as exhibit A or whatever.
[26:31.140 --> 26:32.140]  Okay.
[26:32.140 --> 26:33.140]  Pretty overwhelming.
[26:33.140 --> 26:34.140]  All righty.
[26:34.140 --> 26:38.180]  Brian, you got anything to add to that?
[26:38.180 --> 26:40.580]  No, it gets easier over time.
[26:40.580 --> 26:44.660]  The best way to think of a motion is just a letter to the court.
[26:44.660 --> 26:45.660]  Okay.
[26:45.660 --> 26:49.620]  You need a motion to the court, you tell the court what you want it to do.
[26:49.620 --> 26:50.620]  Okay.
[26:50.620 --> 26:58.900]  And then you tell the court why it's authorized to give you what you want and then you ask
[26:58.900 --> 27:02.260]  the court to do what you want it to do.
[27:02.260 --> 27:05.700]  So there must be, that's the last thing is the prayer.
[27:05.700 --> 27:11.380]  I got one suit once and I told, I read it for a friend and I told him they ain't got
[27:11.380 --> 27:12.380]  a prayer.
[27:12.380 --> 27:13.380]  And he said, why?
[27:13.380 --> 27:14.380]  I don't know.
[27:14.380 --> 27:15.380]  They don't have one.
[27:15.380 --> 27:24.420]  So the suit was worthless because they didn't ask for anything.
[27:24.420 --> 27:26.900]  That's all you really have to understand about a motion.
[27:26.900 --> 27:27.900]  Okay.
[27:27.900 --> 27:32.620]  Tell them what you want, tell them why they can give you what you want and then ask them
[27:32.620 --> 27:33.620]  for what you want.
[27:33.620 --> 27:34.620]  Okay.
[27:34.620 --> 27:37.740]  I'm just afraid I'm going to do the wrong thing.
[27:37.740 --> 27:43.620]  Randy, do you have any examples of any standard types of motions that have the prayer and
[27:43.620 --> 27:45.700]  all of that on your website?
[27:45.700 --> 27:47.700]  You can look on justimprudence.com.
[27:47.700 --> 27:48.700]  Okay.
[27:48.700 --> 27:55.300]  But you see a bunch of frogs on there, I call all of this the frog farm conspiracy.
[27:55.300 --> 28:04.260]  Top frog on the right goes to Documents and Research, go to Documents.
[28:04.260 --> 28:10.420]  I think when you go to Documents and Research you'll see one for blanks and look in blanks
[28:10.420 --> 28:14.740]  and there are many number of motions in there.
[28:14.740 --> 28:22.660]  Or under blanks, no I don't think I have O'Connor's forms on there, O'Connor would beat me.
[28:22.660 --> 28:26.300]  No, you wouldn't have O'Connor's forms on there because that's copyrighted material,
[28:26.300 --> 28:27.980]  we can't give that away.
[28:27.980 --> 28:28.980]  People have to buy that.
[28:28.980 --> 28:29.980]  From O'Connor.
[28:29.980 --> 28:35.180]  She was a Supreme Court judge in Texas, she would probably beat me up.
[28:35.180 --> 28:39.180]  But you'll see a number of motions, you can look in those different folders, there's all
[28:39.180 --> 28:42.780]  sorts of motions in there.
[28:42.780 --> 28:47.340]  And the heading is somewhat different, you'll look at your court paperwork to see how the
[28:47.340 --> 28:52.300]  heading is made and you'll craft the heading in the same style as they're using in the
[28:52.300 --> 28:54.820]  court where you're working.
[28:54.820 --> 28:59.820]  But the body of the motions are pretty well standard across the country.
[28:59.820 --> 29:07.700]  Okay, well I just wasn't sure how to word it.
[29:07.700 --> 29:13.900]  What would be the title, what would be the title of her motion, petition for court ordered
[29:13.900 --> 29:14.900]  mediation?
[29:14.900 --> 29:15.900]  Yes.
[29:15.900 --> 29:20.300]  Motion for court ordered mediation.
[29:20.300 --> 29:26.340]  Word it like you would explain it to any person, there's no special magic language.
[29:26.340 --> 29:28.140]  Any grade school person.
[29:28.140 --> 29:29.140]  Yeah, exactly.
[29:29.140 --> 29:34.020]  But Randy, like you're saying, there has to be a format, you have to include a prayer
[29:34.020 --> 29:36.020]  at the end and things like that.
[29:36.020 --> 29:40.940]  Yeah, I've given them the structure but the language of the wording is, you know, there's
[29:40.940 --> 29:41.940]  no special incantation.
[29:41.940 --> 29:45.940]  Just tell the judge what you want, tell him why he could give it to you and then ask you
[29:45.940 --> 29:46.940]  to give it to him.
[29:46.940 --> 29:47.940]  Okay.
[29:47.940 --> 29:48.940]  All right, well thank you.
[29:48.940 --> 29:49.940]  Okay, you're welcome.
[29:49.940 --> 29:50.940]  Thanks, Mary.
[29:50.940 --> 29:51.940]  Okay.
[29:51.940 --> 29:54.820]  Okay, we are going to break and when we get back we'll be taking more of your calls.
[29:54.820 --> 30:00.500]  This is the rule of law, ruleoflawradio.com.
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[31:25.620 --> 31:27.180]  term for wiretapping.
[31:27.180 --> 31:32.060]  His footage featured a plain clothed state trooper jumping out of an unmarked car, screaming
[31:32.060 --> 31:35.940]  at Gruber and brandishing a gun before identifying himself.
[31:35.940 --> 31:39.060]  Gruber spent 26 hours in jail and had his computer seized.
[31:39.060 --> 31:43.300]  While his case was later thrown out of Maryland court, videographers in other states could
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[32:54.260 --> 33:15.300]  Okay folks, we are back.
[33:15.300 --> 33:21.340]  We are here to police the police man as Dr. Catherine Albrecht was mentioning on the break.
[33:21.340 --> 33:26.540]  Stop them from abusing their power as Pat says by saying her for Three Shoes Posse.
[33:26.540 --> 33:29.100]  Oh by the way folks, I've gotten a lot of emails.
[33:29.100 --> 33:31.980]  People want the bumper music on CD.
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[33:34.660 --> 33:37.660]  Most of the bumper music has not been released yet.
[33:37.660 --> 33:40.860]  It is going to be released on our next CD.
[33:40.860 --> 33:44.100]  Some of the bumper music we have released, some of it hasn't.
[33:44.100 --> 33:47.580]  Some of it is Route 1, some of it is Three Shoes Posse.
[33:47.580 --> 33:53.980]  If you go to ThreeShoesPosse.com and you can either spell it out T-H-R-E-E or use the number
[33:53.980 --> 33:59.940]  3, either one, goes to the same place, ThreeShoesPosse.com, you can purchase our music there, the music
[33:59.940 --> 34:00.940]  that has been released.
[34:00.940 --> 34:10.620]  If you go to Route1.net, R-O-O-T, the number 1, that's not spelled out, R-O-O-T-1.net,
[34:10.620 --> 34:15.940]  then you can listen to and purchase all the Route 1 music that has been released.
[34:15.940 --> 34:22.460]  We are about to do a double CD release of Route 1 and Three Shoes Posse, which will
[34:22.460 --> 34:27.540]  include the bumper music that you have been hearing on this show and others and more new
[34:27.540 --> 34:30.180]  music as well.
[34:30.180 --> 34:35.500]  I will let you folks know as soon as that is released so that y'all can purchase our
[34:35.500 --> 34:42.060]  newest CDs, including the bumper music you've been listening to that you are demanding.
[34:42.060 --> 34:44.460]  It is forthcoming.
[34:44.460 --> 34:49.940]  We are going now to Dell and Fred in Florida.
[34:49.940 --> 34:51.980]  Dell and Fred, thank you for calling in.
[34:51.980 --> 34:54.060]  What is on your mind tonight?
[34:54.060 --> 34:59.740]  Thank you so much for being there for us, it's a revolutionary blessing.
[34:59.740 --> 35:07.460]  We heard Randy last night on Alex Jones, we're here in Florida, and we have a $229,000 12-acre
[35:07.460 --> 35:17.260]  place that has a $229,000 loan, and we paid the mortgage for years and years and now it's
[35:17.260 --> 35:22.300]  gone up to $2,100, so we paid that for three years or two years.
[35:22.300 --> 35:26.460]  Now we're trying to get a loan modification, we're behind about five months.
[35:26.460 --> 35:32.100]  It was originally three months, I guess two since we started the modification, two more.
[35:32.100 --> 35:38.300]  Right, and it's with an American Home Services mortgage, which was option one, and they keep
[35:38.300 --> 35:40.940]  telling us that he had to do all the taxes, which he did.
[35:40.940 --> 35:45.100]  We did all the documents, sent them all in, and then a negotiator called us and said,
[35:45.100 --> 35:50.380]  oh, it looks real good, we're going to move your payment, it looks like, down to $1,250.
[35:50.380 --> 35:55.700]  Well we can't even talk to this guy, we have to go to a call center and the people on there
[35:55.700 --> 36:01.980]  go into a computer and they just try to collect 17 G's from us, but this guy told us that
[36:01.980 --> 36:07.700]  in November, or before that, we'd get a letter stating that it looks like we were going to
[36:07.700 --> 36:12.980]  be approved, but then he calls back three or four days later and says, oh, whoa.
[36:12.980 --> 36:17.540]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, we hear this a lot.
[36:17.540 --> 36:21.500]  I know, but one more thing you need to know, sir, is that I have Social Security checks,
[36:21.500 --> 36:26.900]  and he calls back and says suddenly, we need your last three Social Security checks, proof
[36:26.900 --> 36:27.900]  that you cashed them.
[36:27.900 --> 36:33.660]  Well I cashed the last one at a bank and the bank has not been able to give me proof, so
[36:33.660 --> 36:38.940]  now they're stalling on that one point and we can't even talk to this guy, he calls us
[36:38.940 --> 36:39.940]  twice in three months.
[36:39.940 --> 36:45.660]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, look, it's not going to matter what you produce for them.
[36:45.660 --> 36:48.540]  No matter what you produce, they're going to ask for something else, they're going to
[36:48.540 --> 36:49.540]  ask for something different.
[36:49.540 --> 36:53.780]  When you produce everything, then they're going to ask you for documents that they don't
[36:53.780 --> 36:55.140]  even know what they are.
[36:55.140 --> 37:04.140]  I've got three lawsuits where the banks asked them for documents and told them they didn't
[37:04.140 --> 37:09.620]  know what they were and then denied the modification for the documents they didn't produce when
[37:09.620 --> 37:10.620]  they didn't know what they were.
[37:10.620 --> 37:12.620]  They're not going to give you a modification.
[37:12.620 --> 37:17.340]  Even if they do give you a modification, it's a setup to foreclose.
[37:17.340 --> 37:25.380]  Once you get in the modification, miss one payment, they foreclose immediately.
[37:25.380 --> 37:26.380]  They will have always...
[37:26.380 --> 37:27.380]  Right, but we won't miss a payment.
[37:27.380 --> 37:29.180]  We can pay the $1,200 a month.
[37:29.180 --> 37:33.180]  Well what's going to happen with your modification is going to be $1,200 a month for a while
[37:33.180 --> 37:36.380]  and then it's going to shoot up to three or four times that amount.
[37:36.380 --> 37:41.460]  Oh God, well you mean no one ever succeeds at this procedure?
[37:41.460 --> 37:42.460]  Well there's a few.
[37:42.460 --> 37:45.020]  There's an occasional one.
[37:45.020 --> 37:49.540]  We have one in Colorado that filed suit against the lender and immediately they wanted to
[37:49.540 --> 37:54.460]  make a deal and modify the note.
[37:54.460 --> 37:55.460]  That one succeeded.
[37:55.460 --> 38:04.500]  Okay, well we want to do all of that for years because we have a non-profit 501c3 organization
[38:04.500 --> 38:08.740]  for homeless pets and we have 35 animals we rescue all the time.
[38:08.740 --> 38:13.060]  Well, Del, I think what Randy is saying is that loan modifications are not the way to
[38:13.060 --> 38:14.060]  go.
[38:14.060 --> 38:20.620]  They're for foreclosure because they'll triple your payment later on down the line.
[38:20.620 --> 38:26.820]  They will set you up with a modification that is designed to foreclose.
[38:26.820 --> 38:34.220]  You have to understand it is not in the bank's interest to modify your note.
[38:34.220 --> 38:41.060]  They may not even be able to if they've sold a security instrument to a special purpose
[38:41.060 --> 38:48.580]  vehicle, then they have no authority to modify your note because it's lost in the pool.
[38:48.580 --> 38:50.060]  I don't want to lose my property.
[38:50.060 --> 38:51.060]  I love the place.
[38:51.060 --> 38:59.380]  It's my family property for 12 years and we can pay $2,000 a month or $1,200 or $1,600
[38:59.380 --> 39:04.260]  and all we want to do is find out how to fight them if they don't keep their word and we're
[39:04.260 --> 39:10.100]  either going to file Chapter 13 and then file whatever or we don't know what we're going
[39:10.100 --> 39:11.100]  to do.
[39:11.100 --> 39:13.380]  We need guidance and we believe in you.
[39:13.380 --> 39:17.500]  You're Alex Jones, people.
[39:17.500 --> 39:20.100]  You are patriots and we are patriots.
[39:20.100 --> 39:21.100]  That's what we are.
[39:21.100 --> 39:22.900]  We live in 24-7.
[39:22.900 --> 39:28.940]  We don't own a TV and we have a little real estate business where we help people with
[39:28.940 --> 39:32.380]  lease options and sell lots and all of that.
[39:32.380 --> 39:37.460]  We do make about $3,000 to $4,000 a month, but it doesn't cover everything right now
[39:37.460 --> 39:38.460]  and we're struggling.
[39:38.460 --> 39:40.260]  That's the nitty-gritty.
[39:40.260 --> 39:46.020]  These little animals who are on 12 acres need... We're trying to fight for their home and
[39:46.020 --> 39:47.020] ...
[39:47.020 --> 39:48.020]  Okay.
[39:48.020 --> 39:49.020]  Look.
[39:49.020 --> 39:50.020]  Sew them.
[39:50.020 --> 39:51.020]  That's the easy answer.
[39:51.020 --> 39:52.020]  Sew them.
[39:52.020 --> 39:53.820]  That's the only way you're going to get their attention.
[39:53.820 --> 39:56.900]  If you're going to get a modification, sew them.
[39:56.900 --> 40:01.060]  Then they'll give you a modification and they're motivated to give you a real one.
[40:01.060 --> 40:02.060]  That's divine.
[40:02.060 --> 40:03.060]  I love it.
[40:03.060 --> 40:08.220]  How do we go about sewing them, sir?
[40:08.220 --> 40:13.940]  Just go on to mortgagecrime.com and...
[40:13.940 --> 40:21.620]  You are such a pioneer, you guys, or heroes, go ahead, and heroin.
[40:21.620 --> 40:23.900]  Just go on there and put in your email and...
[40:23.900 --> 40:24.900]  Mortgagecrime.com?
[40:24.900 --> 40:25.900]  Yes.
[40:25.900 --> 40:26.900]  We will...
[40:26.900 --> 40:27.900]  How can we pay you?
[40:27.900 --> 40:28.900]  We love you.
[40:28.900 --> 40:29.900]  Help us.
[40:29.900 --> 40:34.420]  Just go on there and put in your email and we'll contact you and let you know how all
[40:34.420 --> 40:35.420]  this works.
[40:35.420 --> 40:36.420]  All right.
[40:36.420 --> 40:37.420]  We are about...
[40:37.420 --> 40:40.220]  What will it cost us so we can set it aside?
[40:40.220 --> 40:43.380]  Well, I don't like to give that out on the radio.
[40:43.380 --> 40:46.620]  My CEO said she would beat me up if I did that because...
[40:46.620 --> 40:47.620]  What range, sir?
[40:47.620 --> 40:48.620]  Don't show my name.
[40:48.620 --> 40:49.620]  It starts at...
[40:49.620 --> 40:50.620]  It ranges.
[40:50.620 --> 40:51.620]  I want you, Randy, to live.
[40:51.620 --> 40:59.300]  The basic... We provide... The basic documents we provide are a qualified written request
[40:59.300 --> 41:02.060]  and a tort letter.
[41:02.060 --> 41:06.500]  Those are 1,500.
[41:06.500 --> 41:08.100]  Those are not legal documents.
[41:08.100 --> 41:12.060]  They'll beat us up if we prepare legal documents, but we have some people you can send them
[41:12.060 --> 41:13.420]  to out of country.
[41:13.420 --> 41:21.340]  You see, the qualified written request, it's sheer coincidence that it happens to look
[41:21.340 --> 41:27.180]  exactly like discovery in a lawsuit, but that's coincidence.
[41:27.180 --> 41:29.180]  The only difference is the heading and the footing.
[41:29.180 --> 41:33.900]  Now, if we put the heading and the footing on it, then we'd be practicing law and they'd
[41:33.900 --> 41:35.620]  beat us up for that.
[41:35.620 --> 41:40.740]  We have some prior legals out of country to do that for next to nothing.
[41:40.740 --> 41:47.580]  The tort letter, before you sue, the courts say they don't want you to use the court as
[41:47.580 --> 41:53.020]  the remedy of first resort, but rather the remedy of last resort.
[41:53.020 --> 41:59.700]  Prior to suing, they want you to exercise administrative remedy, and the administrative
[41:59.700 --> 42:08.340]  remedy they're referring to is you notify the defendant that you have been harmed and
[42:08.340 --> 42:11.460]  demand that the defendant make you whole.
[42:11.460 --> 42:15.180]  He has notifications on.
[42:15.180 --> 42:16.180]  We provide the tort letter.
[42:16.180 --> 42:22.660]  Well, the tort letter happens to look exactly like a lawsuit, but it's not.
[42:22.660 --> 42:27.660]  It's an administrative letter, but you can send it to these paralegals and they'll turn
[42:27.660 --> 42:29.900]  it into a lawsuit for you.
[42:29.900 --> 42:32.100]  With what?
[42:32.100 --> 42:37.180]  We have some paralegals out of country you can send it to, and they work cheap, and they'll
[42:37.180 --> 42:40.500]  just change the heading and footing and have your lawsuit.
[42:40.500 --> 42:47.780]  It costs about $300 to file in a federal court, and then about $100 to have each litigant
[42:47.780 --> 42:48.780]  served.
[42:48.780 --> 42:54.580]  Do you have tapes that we can get to hear all of this?
[42:54.580 --> 42:55.580]  Absolutely.
[42:55.580 --> 43:02.980]  Well, you can download the archive from ruleoflawradio.com of tonight's show, but mainly to get the process
[43:02.980 --> 43:08.260]  started, go to Randy's website, themortgageclimes.com, and enter in the information, and then someone
[43:08.260 --> 43:09.260]  will be contacting you.
[43:09.260 --> 43:12.100]  Yeah, and we'll show you how to get through all of this.
[43:12.100 --> 43:18.060]  Right, but I don't want to end up losing the property because I did all of the installing
[43:18.060 --> 43:19.340]  of them for two years.
[43:19.340 --> 43:20.340]  I want to end up-
[43:20.340 --> 43:24.100]  When you sue them, it stops the foreclosure process immediately, and it prevents them
[43:24.100 --> 43:25.860]  from even starting it.
[43:25.860 --> 43:31.460]  But especially if you're not already in foreclosure, that's the best time to do it.
[43:31.460 --> 43:32.460]  Then that's the best time.
[43:32.460 --> 43:35.460]  Then they can't even start it.
[43:35.460 --> 43:39.620]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[43:39.620 --> 43:40.620]  What about Chapter 13?
[43:40.620 --> 43:44.180]  Oh, we'll discuss that when we come back on the other side.
[43:44.180 --> 43:45.860]  Yes, stay there, Del.
[43:45.860 --> 43:48.060]  May not necessarily be the best strategy.
[43:48.060 --> 43:50.100]  Really the best strategy is to sue them.
[43:50.100 --> 43:53.820]  Yes, Chapter 13 of Jim and Getch is about 30 days.
[43:53.820 --> 43:54.820]  Okay.
[43:54.820 --> 43:55.820]  Yeah, it's not going to buy you very much time.
[43:55.820 --> 43:56.820]  You got to sue them.
[43:56.820 --> 43:59.820]  All right, we'll be right back.
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[46:42.300 --> 46:48.300]  Watching the sparks fly.
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[48:16.300 --> 48:19.300]  Don't have to tell me if I have problems.
[48:19.300 --> 48:21.300]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[48:21.300 --> 48:29.300]  We're speaking with Del and Fred in Florida, and we were just about to talk about Chapter 13,
[48:29.300 --> 48:36.300]  and before we went on break, Randy and I were saying to y'all that that's not really the best way to go.
[48:36.300 --> 48:38.300]  It'll only buy you about 30 days.
[48:38.300 --> 48:42.300]  Randy, you want to continue?
[48:42.300 --> 48:43.300]  Randy?
[48:43.300 --> 48:49.300]  Yes, the deal with Chapter 13 is generally it'll get you about 30 days.
[48:49.300 --> 48:50.300]  Right.
[48:50.300 --> 49:01.300]  Now, it doesn't emergency stop, but in the end, the bank will move to remove the house from the bankruptcy
[49:01.300 --> 49:05.300]  and allow themselves to go ahead with foreclosure.
[49:05.300 --> 49:10.300]  Okay, we've told all the different lies and things that are different than that, but the 13th,
[49:10.300 --> 49:14.300]  we can start out with that, but if we do a 13th, can we do your program?
[49:14.300 --> 49:15.300]  Absolutely.
[49:15.300 --> 49:20.300]  You can file ours as an adversarial proceeding in the bankruptcy.
[49:20.300 --> 49:26.300]  If we did that, I'm not going to do it necessarily, but if we did that and then a 7 after that,
[49:26.300 --> 49:29.300]  can we still do your program after that?
[49:29.300 --> 49:30.300]  Absolutely.
[49:30.300 --> 49:31.300]  Have no say.
[49:31.300 --> 49:32.300]  Oh, wow, that's brilliant, Randy.
[49:32.300 --> 49:35.300]  Oh, my God, I'm going to move to Austin.
[49:35.300 --> 49:36.300]  Okay, what we're doing?
[49:36.300 --> 49:38.300]  I'm going to work for you guys.
[49:38.300 --> 49:41.300]  This is so rare.
[49:41.300 --> 49:45.300]  So I have a nonprofit organization of assets for homeless pets.
[49:45.300 --> 49:50.300]  We don't make a dime, but we do owe the IRS about 20 Gs right now,
[49:50.300 --> 49:53.300]  and they put a lien on this place and da, da, da.
[49:53.300 --> 49:54.300]  We've done all our taxes.
[49:54.300 --> 49:58.300]  We filed up until this year, and we're going to file.
[49:58.300 --> 50:02.300]  And they're trying to get us to pay on $1,000 that we owe.
[50:02.300 --> 50:03.300]  We do want to pay them.
[50:03.300 --> 50:06.300]  We make just enough to feed the animals,
[50:06.300 --> 50:10.300]  and we do get donations from Walmart and various places for them,
[50:10.300 --> 50:12.300]  but we don't want to kill them.
[50:12.300 --> 50:16.300]  We don't want them to die, so we take in and we adopt them, and we get them spayed, neutered,
[50:16.300 --> 50:25.300]  and then we have this big, horrible, monstrous, you know, galactic animal control woman come to the gate,
[50:25.300 --> 50:34.300]  and she came up with her hands on her hips like a baboon communist to my gate,
[50:34.300 --> 50:38.300]  and three little or four little black dogs had run into the woods to the pond,
[50:38.300 --> 50:41.300]  and we live in the deep woods out here.
[50:41.300 --> 50:43.300]  We have four neighbors that are a-holes,
[50:43.300 --> 50:49.300]  and she comes to the gate and pulls out her ticket before I could even really talk to her,
[50:49.300 --> 50:50.300]  and I said, back off, lady.
[50:50.300 --> 50:51.300]  I have rights.
[50:51.300 --> 50:52.300]  I'm an American.
[50:52.300 --> 50:56.300]  And I said, why are you writing a ticket or saying you're going to?
[50:56.300 --> 50:59.300]  Well, she says, give me a license.
[50:59.300 --> 51:00.300]  I said, I will.
[51:00.300 --> 51:03.300]  I'll be glad to, but I am a 501C3, dear.
[51:03.300 --> 51:04.300]  We help animals.
[51:04.300 --> 51:05.300]  I've been here for 12 years.
[51:05.300 --> 51:08.300]  I've never been to court in this county,
[51:08.300 --> 51:17.300]  but I have had three big lesbian women come out here who look like Godzilla,
[51:17.300 --> 51:21.300]  and they are disturbing, and I want to duke them out.
[51:21.300 --> 51:25.300]  I'll be honest, because they are disgusting to me.
[51:25.300 --> 51:27.300]  But anyway, and they kill dogs for a living.
[51:27.300 --> 51:28.300]  They do.
[51:28.300 --> 51:35.300]  So anyway, I said, listen, I respect the law, but you need to, you know, back off.
[51:35.300 --> 51:37.300]  I help animals, and you know that.
[51:37.300 --> 51:40.300]  And so she starts saying, I'm going to call the sheriff,
[51:40.300 --> 51:43.300]  because we're part of the sheriff's department now.
[51:43.300 --> 51:46.300]  Well, you should have called 911 on her for trespassing on your property.
[51:46.300 --> 51:49.300]  I did, and the sheriff came out here.
[51:49.300 --> 51:52.300]  The guy was mellow, and he said, you didn't do anything wrong.
[51:52.300 --> 51:54.300]  You two got into a little heated argument.
[51:54.300 --> 52:00.300]  But she brought me a $400 ticket for three little dogs running down the road.
[52:00.300 --> 52:01.300]  They didn't do anything.
[52:01.300 --> 52:02.300]  This is honest.
[52:02.300 --> 52:08.300]  They just ran, and she saw them, and some a-hole reported them or something.
[52:08.300 --> 52:10.300]  She claims that they lie.
[52:10.300 --> 52:11.300]  Okay.
[52:11.300 --> 52:12.300]  Okay.
[52:12.300 --> 52:16.300]  Well, easy with the language, because we're going out on about 20 AM and FM stations.
[52:16.300 --> 52:17.300]  All right, dear.
[52:17.300 --> 52:20.300]  I better watch what I say, most assuredly, Madam.
[52:20.300 --> 52:21.300]  I'm sorry.
[52:21.300 --> 52:23.300]  I don't want to say the wrong thing.
[52:23.300 --> 52:26.300]  So I just want to be proper and legal.
[52:26.300 --> 52:31.300]  So anyway, she wrote the ticket anyway, standing there like now the sheriff came out,
[52:31.300 --> 52:33.300]  and she is part of the sheriff's department now.
[52:33.300 --> 52:37.300]  And I'm telling you, they are acting like ghouls.
[52:37.300 --> 52:42.300]  She wrote a $400 ticket, and I needed that money for spay and neutering.
[52:42.300 --> 52:46.300]  And I can go to court and fight it, but I don't want to be in their system right now.
[52:46.300 --> 52:50.300]  And under the limelight with the press and this and that.
[52:50.300 --> 52:52.300]  So, you know, we have a beautiful place here.
[52:52.300 --> 52:54.300]  The animals are very healthy.
[52:54.300 --> 52:55.300]  Okay.
[52:55.300 --> 52:58.300]  You might want to listen to the show for a while.
[52:58.300 --> 53:05.300]  We talk about remedy and how to affect remedy, especially in these kinds of situations.
[53:05.300 --> 53:06.300]  When is that on, sir?
[53:06.300 --> 53:12.300]  Well, our show, if you go to ruleoflawradio.com, it tells what the schedule is of our show.
[53:12.300 --> 53:16.300]  Our show is on Monday, Thursdays, and Fridays at 8 p.m. Central Time.
[53:16.300 --> 53:18.300]  Do you think I should just pay that my husband has?
[53:18.300 --> 53:21.300]  Well, first you need to research the statute in your state.
[53:21.300 --> 53:23.300]  You need to research the ordinance.
[53:23.300 --> 53:28.300]  You need to find out exactly what the ordinance says and what the requirements are, if any.
[53:28.300 --> 53:31.300]  Find out jurisdiction and all these kinds of things.
[53:31.300 --> 53:35.300]  You have to educate yourself on the law first in this matter.
[53:35.300 --> 53:36.300]  Yeah, they were on a leash law.
[53:36.300 --> 53:38.300]  They weren't on a leash and they were running at large.
[53:38.300 --> 53:42.300]  Three little itty bitty black dogs.
[53:42.300 --> 53:44.300]  Okay, so I'm fined $400 for that.
[53:44.300 --> 53:51.300]  Yeah, but the thing about it is most leash laws only apply within the corporation limits.
[53:51.300 --> 53:54.300]  They don't apply if you're outside of a corporate limit.
[53:54.300 --> 53:56.300]  Unless that's a county ordinance.
[53:56.300 --> 53:58.300]  Unless it's a county ordinance, that's what I'm saying.
[53:58.300 --> 53:59.300]  You have to educate yourself.
[53:59.300 --> 54:05.300]  Well, and then if it's actually a county ordinance, then you have the issue of checking the Florida Constitution
[54:05.300 --> 54:08.300]  to see if there's an enacting clause requirement.
[54:08.300 --> 54:15.300]  If the Florida Constitution has an enacting clause requirement that says only the legislature can make law,
[54:15.300 --> 54:19.300]  then a county ordinance is not binding upon the public as law.
[54:19.300 --> 54:20.300]  It cannot be.
[54:20.300 --> 54:23.300]  It would be unconstitutional for it to be.
[54:23.300 --> 54:30.300]  Yes, but sir, this puts us into investigation, coming out here, these ghouls, and we've never...
[54:30.300 --> 54:31.300]  Well, it's too late.
[54:31.300 --> 54:32.300]  You already are.
[54:32.300 --> 54:35.300]  They're already there.
[54:35.300 --> 54:41.300]  The best way to go that we've found generally is to fight these things, is to fight these matters.
[54:41.300 --> 54:46.300]  The problem is if they get you on the hook once and you do nothing to resist,
[54:46.300 --> 54:48.300]  they'll be back because you're easy pickings.
[54:48.300 --> 54:51.300]  Yes, it's all about revenue.
[54:51.300 --> 54:55.300]  They'll consider you a cash cow, and they'll keep coming and giving you more tickets.
[54:55.300 --> 54:58.300]  They'll just make up reasons.
[54:58.300 --> 54:59.300]  Deborah, you're right.
[54:59.300 --> 55:01.300]  You're so brilliant, you guys.
[55:01.300 --> 55:05.300]  My God, Randi, thank you for having a great woman with you.
[55:05.300 --> 55:06.300]  Well, I'm his co-host.
[55:06.300 --> 55:08.300]  I'm not his woman, but...
[55:08.300 --> 55:09.300]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[55:09.300 --> 55:11.300]  Well, you're brilliant.
[55:11.300 --> 55:15.300]  You're a being in a body like me, and it has nothing to do with gender really,
[55:15.300 --> 55:20.300]  but I believe in men's rights too, and the men of America are very valuable.
[55:20.300 --> 55:25.300]  They may be tedious, but they're valuable, and the women are valuable too.
[55:25.300 --> 55:26.300]  So thank you.
[55:26.300 --> 55:27.300]  Tedious?
[55:27.300 --> 55:30.300]  Oh, that's a little disparate.
[55:30.300 --> 55:35.300]  Well, she forgot to add tedious or odious to the tedious in some cases.
[55:35.300 --> 55:38.300]  Odious and women are odious.
[55:38.300 --> 55:41.300]  We throw perfume on it, but really, I don't...
[55:41.300 --> 55:44.300]  No, not odiferous, odious.
[55:44.300 --> 55:46.300]  There, I said, would you please spray, sir?
[55:46.300 --> 55:48.300]  Oh, my goodness, you guys.
[55:48.300 --> 55:50.300]  I had it as young boys because they have no fathers,
[55:50.300 --> 55:56.300]  and the mothers don't have them on how to handle women, and women are not superior.
[55:56.300 --> 56:00.300]  Don't worry, Del, I'm still having to educate Randy on that matter.
[56:00.300 --> 56:02.300]  It is easy to handle women.
[56:02.300 --> 56:04.300]  Just do whatever they tell you.
[56:04.300 --> 56:07.300]  Now you got it.
[56:07.300 --> 56:08.300]  No, no, no, no.
[56:08.300 --> 56:10.300]  Women have to be having babies.
[56:10.300 --> 56:14.300]  We are intellectually brighter than some men, but we're not superior to men.
[56:14.300 --> 56:18.300]  Men build the roads, they do the inventions, and women are quirks.
[56:18.300 --> 56:19.300]  I do inventions.
[56:19.300 --> 56:21.300]  Intellectually brilliant.
[56:21.300 --> 56:23.300]  I do inventions.
[56:23.300 --> 56:27.300]  But not vastly, dear. Women are mostly mothers.
[56:27.300 --> 56:29.300]  I'm not going to buy that.
[56:29.300 --> 56:31.300]  I'm not going to buy that.
[56:31.300 --> 56:32.300]  I've got a degree in mathematics.
[56:32.300 --> 56:35.300]  I majored in physics and math, so...
[56:35.300 --> 56:37.300]  We're talking about you, dear. You're a genius.
[56:37.300 --> 56:40.300]  Deborah just tries to make us all look like chumps.
[56:40.300 --> 56:41.300]  No, no, no.
[56:41.300 --> 56:45.300]  You know what? This is just societal, social...
[56:45.300 --> 56:49.300]  If we build great men, we are doing a...
[56:49.300 --> 56:52.300]  We're like a producer or an agent who builds a great star.
[56:52.300 --> 56:55.300]  I think all that is social engineering.
[56:55.300 --> 57:00.300]  I think that women have the capacity and the potential to be equally as brilliant
[57:00.300 --> 57:03.300]  as physicists, engineers, mathematicians, scientists.
[57:03.300 --> 57:07.300]  I've seen it. My sister is a brilliant doctor.
[57:07.300 --> 57:10.300]  She's a brilliant physicist and M.D.
[57:10.300 --> 57:13.300]  My mother was valedictorian of her high school.
[57:13.300 --> 57:15.300]  She graduated at the top of her class.
[57:15.300 --> 57:18.300]  I mean, women have the potential to be just as much as men.
[57:18.300 --> 57:23.300]  We don't have to build up the men to do what we can do ourselves.
[57:23.300 --> 57:27.300]  That is all social engineering, Del.
[57:27.300 --> 57:31.300]  That's just strictly social engineering, and I don't buy into it at all.
[57:31.300 --> 57:34.300]  Okay, well, I'd love to hear more about your viewpoint there,
[57:34.300 --> 57:37.300]  but if we can have an agreement to disagree agreeably.
[57:37.300 --> 57:41.300]  Okay, well, listen, we're about to go to break anyway, Del.
[57:41.300 --> 57:45.300]  Why don't you go to the website and enter your information,
[57:45.300 --> 57:47.300]  and then someone will be contacting you more.
[57:47.300 --> 57:50.300]  Will you? Will we be able to talk to you again?
[57:50.300 --> 57:52.300]  If you call into the show.
[57:52.300 --> 57:54.300]  Oh, cool.
[57:54.300 --> 57:58.300]  Okay, well, I hope you aren't upset with me because I have a certain view.
[57:58.300 --> 57:59.300]  I'm not upset.
[57:59.300 --> 58:03.300]  I just realized that, you know, a lot of people,
[58:03.300 --> 58:08.300]  they've just been preyed victims to social engineering, that's all.
[58:08.300 --> 58:11.300]  And, you know, things have just been a certain way for so many generations,
[58:11.300 --> 58:15.300]  and that's just because of oppression.
[58:15.300 --> 58:19.300]  I consider it straight up oppression, but we don't live in those days anymore.
[58:19.300 --> 58:21.300]  But at any rate, we're going to break now.
[58:21.300 --> 58:24.300]  We're going to be taking more of your calls on the other side.
[58:24.300 --> 58:28.300]  We've got Guy from Arkansas, Boris from Texas, and more.
[58:28.300 --> 58:30.300]  We're at the top of the hour break.
[58:30.300 --> 58:34.300]  We've got Iron and World Report news here at the top of the break.
[58:34.300 --> 58:39.300]  So, folks, please stay tuned and enjoy the news, and we'll be back on the other side.
[58:39.300 --> 58:42.300]  This is the rule of law. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:25.300 --> 01:03:27.300]  Okay folks, we are back to Rule of Law.
[01:03:27.300 --> 01:03:29.300]  We're going to be taking your calls.
[01:03:29.300 --> 01:03:35.300]  But before we do that, I'm sorry, Del got me on a tirade, Del got me on a rant here
[01:03:35.300 --> 01:03:44.300]  about the social engineering of this degraded role of women in society.
[01:03:44.300 --> 01:03:51.300]  It is a highly unfortunate situation and I will admit that there is social engineering on the other side.
[01:03:51.300 --> 01:03:58.300]  The whole Gloria Steinem movement and the National Organization for Women and all of that,
[01:03:58.300 --> 01:04:04.300]  that was all founded by the Rockefellers to get women out of the homes and into the workplace
[01:04:04.300 --> 01:04:11.300]  so that middle class families could be double taxed and to make it so that people couldn't homeschool their kids
[01:04:11.300 --> 01:04:17.300]  to get the children into the government fool systems, the government propaganda indoctrination systems.
[01:04:17.300 --> 01:04:22.300]  So there is propaganda and social engineering on both sides.
[01:04:22.300 --> 01:04:28.300]  But just to give an example here, I'm going to use my mother as an example, one of my role models.
[01:04:28.300 --> 01:04:29.300]  I love my mother so much.
[01:04:29.300 --> 01:04:32.300]  She was valedictorian of her high school.
[01:04:32.300 --> 01:04:34.300]  She was the head of her class.
[01:04:34.300 --> 01:04:39.300]  She was the head of her college class at University of Southern Louisiana.
[01:04:39.300 --> 01:04:40.300]  She's from Louisiana.
[01:04:40.300 --> 01:04:44.300]  She majored in math and physics and computer science.
[01:04:44.300 --> 01:04:48.300]  That's how she met my father who was in the same field.
[01:04:48.300 --> 01:04:51.300]  She didn't spend her life building up his career.
[01:04:51.300 --> 01:04:57.300]  However, after she got married and she got pregnant with me, I was a first born,
[01:04:57.300 --> 01:05:07.300]  she voluntarily decided to retire from her career as a computer science analyst
[01:05:07.300 --> 01:05:14.300]  at the company where her and my father worked so that she could raise the family, raise me and my sister.
[01:05:14.300 --> 01:05:16.300]  Now that was by choice.
[01:05:16.300 --> 01:05:25.300]  It wasn't because she felt she had some kind of a duty to build up my father's career or his role or something.
[01:05:25.300 --> 01:05:27.300]  She didn't have to do that.
[01:05:27.300 --> 01:05:30.300]  But at the same time, she still had her career.
[01:05:30.300 --> 01:05:34.300]  After my sister and I were old enough that we could kind of watch after ourselves
[01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:37.300]  when we were in junior high and high school, my mother went back to school.
[01:05:37.300 --> 01:05:40.300]  She got another degree and another career.
[01:05:40.300 --> 01:05:43.300]  She didn't spend her life propping up my father with his career.
[01:05:43.300 --> 01:05:48.300]  I don't believe that even as a husband and wife, we need to be propping each other up.
[01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:52.300]  No, we need to stand on our own two feet, every toe on its own bottom.
[01:05:52.300 --> 01:05:57.300]  That's what the old school people say back in the Caribbean.
[01:05:57.300 --> 01:06:01.300]  I don't believe in this women are clerks and men are inventors.
[01:06:01.300 --> 01:06:02.300]  No, we're all inventors.
[01:06:02.300 --> 01:06:04.300]  We are all creative.
[01:06:04.300 --> 01:06:06.300]  We all have an intelligence.
[01:06:06.300 --> 01:06:12.300]  We all have a mind that we should be putting it to use, not necessarily building up other people,
[01:06:12.300 --> 01:06:16.300]  but what about us working on ourselves?
[01:06:16.300 --> 01:06:20.300]  I don't like to toot my own horn, but Del, I'm just going to tell this just for you.
[01:06:20.300 --> 01:06:21.300]  I'm the one that built this network.
[01:06:21.300 --> 01:06:23.300]  I built all the computers.
[01:06:23.300 --> 01:06:24.300]  I built all the workstations.
[01:06:24.300 --> 01:06:27.300]  I custom wrote scripts and software to run it.
[01:06:27.300 --> 01:06:29.300]  I soldered cables.
[01:06:29.300 --> 01:06:33.300]  I handmade special proprietary cables.
[01:06:33.300 --> 01:06:35.300]  I wrote proprietary software.
[01:06:35.300 --> 01:06:40.300]  Listen, and I didn't figure this out all on my own.
[01:06:40.300 --> 01:06:43.300]  I have a mentor that guided me along the way,
[01:06:43.300 --> 01:06:49.300]  but I didn't leave this up to some guy to figure it all out for me.
[01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:53.300]  Okay, and we wouldn't be on the air right now if I hadn't have taken the helm
[01:06:53.300 --> 01:06:58.300]  and taken control of the situation and said, no, we're going to be on the air
[01:06:58.300 --> 01:07:00.300]  because I'm going to make it happen.
[01:07:00.300 --> 01:07:04.300]  All right, now that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[01:07:04.300 --> 01:07:07.300]  Yeah, and I can vouch for her in that regard.
[01:07:07.300 --> 01:07:11.300]  I offered to supervise and she turned me down flat.
[01:07:11.300 --> 01:07:12.300]  Yeah, right.
[01:07:12.300 --> 01:07:13.300]  If you can believe that.
[01:07:13.300 --> 01:07:14.300]  Yeah, right.
[01:07:14.300 --> 01:07:18.300]  Okay, so at any rate, I'm just saying we need to open our minds.
[01:07:18.300 --> 01:07:20.300]  All of us need to open our minds.
[01:07:20.300 --> 01:07:23.300]  We need to be guided by the Lord in our spirits,
[01:07:23.300 --> 01:07:28.300]  but we need to cast off all types of social engineering,
[01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:34.300]  whether it be the Rockefeller founded Gloria Steinem social engineering
[01:07:34.300 --> 01:07:39.300]  or whether it be the ancient social engineering of old that women are chattel
[01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:45.300]  and that we should be clerks and do nothing but support the men who are the ones,
[01:07:45.300 --> 01:07:47.300]  who are the creative ones and the inventors.
[01:07:47.300 --> 01:07:49.300]  Yeah, I don't think so.
[01:07:49.300 --> 01:07:51.300]  You know, some of the greatest scientists and doctors
[01:07:51.300 --> 01:07:54.300]  and inventors of our time have been women,
[01:07:54.300 --> 01:07:58.300]  and the only reason there haven't been more of them is because of social engineering.
[01:07:58.300 --> 01:08:02.300]  Okay, so we are going now to Guy in Arkansas.
[01:08:02.300 --> 01:08:04.300]  Guy, thanks for calling in.
[01:08:04.300 --> 01:08:05.300]  What is on your mind tonight?
[01:08:05.300 --> 01:08:08.300]  Yeah, I want to hear your opinion on that, Guy.
[01:08:08.300 --> 01:08:10.300]  Well, I'll tell you what.
[01:08:10.300 --> 01:08:16.300]  He surely blew me off my stand that I was going to start, but I'd start out with.
[01:08:16.300 --> 01:08:23.300]  You've got the social engineering facts down, you know, down pat there.
[01:08:23.300 --> 01:08:26.300]  I can't disagree with anything on that.
[01:08:26.300 --> 01:08:30.300]  And it sounds like your mom just decided that she just wanted to give you
[01:08:30.300 --> 01:08:34.300]  as much love and attention as possible being first born and all,
[01:08:34.300 --> 01:08:39.300]  and I give her a lot of credit for that.
[01:08:39.300 --> 01:08:44.300]  And my question for today is about Irina Van Davis.
[01:08:44.300 --> 01:08:50.300]  Now, I had put a motion into a court asking them to put in a document
[01:08:50.300 --> 01:08:55.300]  that I'm looking for that's part of the record, and they denied me.
[01:08:55.300 --> 01:09:03.300]  Now, when I put in my motion, I put in a not quite a judicial notice,
[01:09:03.300 --> 01:09:09.300]  but I told them I made some kind of – it's on my computer, it's too long to get to,
[01:09:09.300 --> 01:09:14.300]  and I didn't have time to get it up for tonight for an accurate reprisal.
[01:09:14.300 --> 01:09:19.300]  But basically I just told them, I said, if you deny the appellant this motion
[01:09:19.300 --> 01:09:26.300]  to have this document entered into – I've gotten a court of appeals into my brief,
[01:09:26.300 --> 01:09:34.300]  then you must tell me exactly by what court rule, legal precedence, law, statute, et cetera,
[01:09:34.300 --> 01:09:36.300]  that you are basing this denial on.
[01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:41.300]  Well, I got my motion in today, and it was simply one sentence saying
[01:09:41.300 --> 01:09:46.300]  that your motion was denied, your brief is due in 15 days, blah, blah, blah.
[01:09:46.300 --> 01:09:49.300]  And so I'm sitting here thinking to myself, you know,
[01:09:49.300 --> 01:09:52.300]  I don't want to sit here and let them kick me in the pants about this.
[01:09:52.300 --> 01:09:59.300]  So I was thinking about, well, if I put in a writ of mandamus to the superior court
[01:09:59.300 --> 01:10:01.300]  and demanding them –
[01:10:01.300 --> 01:10:04.300]  No, no, wait, wait, wait, too soon, too soon.
[01:10:04.300 --> 01:10:08.300]  You need to petition for findings of fact and conclusions of law.
[01:10:08.300 --> 01:10:10.300]  Oh, okay.
[01:10:10.300 --> 01:10:14.300]  Make up your own findings of fact and conclusions of that law
[01:10:14.300 --> 01:10:20.300]  and ask that the court accept yours or prepare their own.
[01:10:20.300 --> 01:10:26.300]  And you have a right to that in order to perfect your appeal.
[01:10:26.300 --> 01:10:31.300]  Okay. Do you have that on your website?
[01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:37.300]  No, I don't have it. It's just a motion that that's not something we can do.
[01:10:37.300 --> 01:10:40.300]  Okay, okay. I was just wondering if you had –
[01:10:40.300 --> 01:10:42.300]  because you had a lot of blank forms on your website,
[01:10:42.300 --> 01:10:44.300]  so I was wondering if you had one there.
[01:10:44.300 --> 01:10:49.300]  Okay, so I would construct a finding of facts and conclusions,
[01:10:49.300 --> 01:10:52.300]  and what would I be posing the question back to them?
[01:10:52.300 --> 01:11:00.300]  Yes, essentially what would have been points and authorities in support of your motion.
[01:11:00.300 --> 01:11:03.300]  Prepare our points and authorities.
[01:11:03.300 --> 01:11:06.300]  This is the law. Here are the facts.
[01:11:06.300 --> 01:11:09.300]  This is the law addressing those facts,
[01:11:09.300 --> 01:11:13.300]  and here is the conclusion the law would require that you come to.
[01:11:13.300 --> 01:11:17.300]  Okay, let me interject right here because what I did do is in my motion
[01:11:17.300 --> 01:11:33.300]  I did put in the federal rules of civil procedure relevant evidence, okay,
[01:11:33.300 --> 01:11:37.300]  and I told them that these documents, which are applications –
[01:11:37.300 --> 01:11:43.300]  I'm arguing a contract here – that the application that I have filled out
[01:11:43.300 --> 01:11:46.300]  that they accepted was a contract.
[01:11:46.300 --> 01:11:57.300]  So I told them – I listed I think it was three or four of the federal rules
[01:11:57.300 --> 01:12:05.300]  of civil procedures dealing specifically with relevant facts that they were bound
[01:12:05.300 --> 01:12:13.300]  by the relevant facts of the federal rules of civil procedure that they have to allow this in.
[01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:16.300]  Did you cite any case law in support?
[01:12:16.300 --> 01:12:17.300]  No, I didn't.
[01:12:17.300 --> 01:12:20.300]  Okay, what I suggest you do is go down to the legal library
[01:12:20.300 --> 01:12:28.300]  and pull the annotated version of the statutes that you cite.
[01:12:28.300 --> 01:12:31.300]  The annotated versions will have all the case law,
[01:12:31.300 --> 01:12:36.300]  the relevant case law relevant to those statutes.
[01:12:36.300 --> 01:12:43.300]  Now, depending on those rules, depending on which ones you pull, Rule 12,
[01:12:43.300 --> 01:12:55.300]  you will get about six different documents with about 1,000 annotations each.
[01:12:55.300 --> 01:13:01.300]  So when you look at it, you look at the annotations, it's not quite that daunting.
[01:13:01.300 --> 01:13:05.300]  The more they've got, the better because they'll have them separated
[01:13:05.300 --> 01:13:08.300]  into different subjects in different aspects.
[01:13:08.300 --> 01:13:13.300]  And you just go right down and find the one that relates to yours
[01:13:13.300 --> 01:13:15.300]  and you find some really good case law.
[01:13:15.300 --> 01:13:20.300]  If you don't find it precisely on point, you can find some close.
[01:13:20.300 --> 01:13:26.300]  And when you read those cases, a case when they address an issue,
[01:13:26.300 --> 01:13:30.300]  they tend to address points around the issue
[01:13:30.300 --> 01:13:36.300]  so that they frame the particular issue that they're addressing.
[01:13:36.300 --> 01:13:39.300]  So if you got one close, you read the case,
[01:13:39.300 --> 01:13:44.300]  it's likely to give you cases dead on point.
[01:13:44.300 --> 01:13:49.300]  Well, here's my point, well, my other point.
[01:13:49.300 --> 01:13:53.300]  They gave me 15 days, which is the 4th of November, to put in my briefs.
[01:13:53.300 --> 01:14:02.300]  Now, I want to, you know, I feel that this is a critical piece of evidence for my argument.
[01:14:02.300 --> 01:14:06.300]  Now, what can I, I don't want to ask you advice or anything like that.
[01:14:06.300 --> 01:14:08.300]  Don't get me wrong here.
[01:14:08.300 --> 01:14:13.300]  What I want to do is I want to put in either another motion
[01:14:13.300 --> 01:14:19.300]  or I was thinking about the writ of mandamus that a higher court would forestall.
[01:14:19.300 --> 01:14:25.300]  They'll just, the higher court will just kick it back saying it's premature.
[01:14:25.300 --> 01:14:29.300]  Okay, so it has to be a settled, it has to be a case settled to do a writ.
[01:14:29.300 --> 01:14:31.300]  No, no, it doesn't have to be settled,
[01:14:31.300 --> 01:14:38.300]  but you have to have exercised all of your available remedies before you go to the writ
[01:14:38.300 --> 01:14:41.300]  because the writ is an extraordinary remedy.
[01:14:41.300 --> 01:14:43.300]  I see.
[01:14:43.300 --> 01:14:48.300]  Okay, you have a motion for reconsideration.
[01:14:48.300 --> 01:14:53.300]  You have a petition for findings, effect, and conclusions at law.
[01:14:53.300 --> 01:14:54.300]  You need to do these first.
[01:14:54.300 --> 01:14:58.300]  You need to get the court to deny your motion for reconsideration
[01:14:58.300 --> 01:15:01.300]  or motion for rehearing.
[01:15:01.300 --> 01:15:02.300]  Okay.
[01:15:02.300 --> 01:15:06.300]  And file the petition for findings, effect,
[01:15:06.300 --> 01:15:10.300]  find the request for findings, effect, and conclusions at law.
[01:15:10.300 --> 01:15:13.300]  And if they don't give you that,
[01:15:13.300 --> 01:15:19.300]  you can petition to the court of appeals for a motion to compel.
[01:15:19.300 --> 01:15:21.300]  Wow.
[01:15:21.300 --> 01:15:26.300]  And these are the remedies that you have before you go to mandamus.
[01:15:26.300 --> 01:15:27.300]  Okay.
[01:15:27.300 --> 01:15:29.300]  Yeah, I know there's a stepping ladder that you got to get.
[01:15:29.300 --> 01:15:32.300]  You know, it's just like exhausting your remedies.
[01:15:32.300 --> 01:15:35.300]  You have to go through the steps in order to get to the next step.
[01:15:35.300 --> 01:15:36.300]  Okay.
[01:15:36.300 --> 01:15:37.300]  I have a question.
[01:15:37.300 --> 01:15:38.300]  Yes.
[01:15:38.300 --> 01:15:41.300]  Are you familiar with jurisdictionary?
[01:15:41.300 --> 01:15:42.300]  I've got it.
[01:15:42.300 --> 01:15:47.300]  I've had it since 2004 when I tried to sue Tysons for some BS
[01:15:47.300 --> 01:15:48.300]  that they pulled on me there.
[01:15:48.300 --> 01:15:49.300]  Good, good.
[01:15:49.300 --> 01:15:50.300]  Go through it again.
[01:15:50.300 --> 01:15:51.300]  Yeah.
[01:15:51.300 --> 01:15:52.300]  Quickly, just to refresh.
[01:15:52.300 --> 01:15:53.300]  I've done it.
[01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:58.300]  I've listened to that several times, and he's got very good points.
[01:15:58.300 --> 01:16:03.300]  But these, I don't think he carries on, at least not in my version,
[01:16:03.300 --> 01:16:06.300]  because it's 2004, and I know he's got upgrades.
[01:16:06.300 --> 01:16:13.300]  But I don't think he covers these specific details, specifics that I'm looking for right now.
[01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:14.300]  Okay.
[01:16:14.300 --> 01:16:16.300]  What state are you in?
[01:16:16.300 --> 01:16:17.300]  Arkansas.
[01:16:17.300 --> 01:16:18.300]  Arkansas.
[01:16:18.300 --> 01:16:19.300]  Okay.
[01:16:19.300 --> 01:16:22.300]  The problem is there's hillbillies in Arkansas.
[01:16:22.300 --> 01:16:25.300]  Every bit of it.
[01:16:25.300 --> 01:16:26.300]  Every bit of it.
[01:16:26.300 --> 01:16:32.300]  See, call a law firm and tell them that you're homeschooling your kids
[01:16:32.300 --> 01:16:37.300]  and you want to give them a short course on law and ask them what litigation guides they use.
[01:16:37.300 --> 01:16:42.300]  And if they have litigation guides, ask them if they've got an old copy you can get from.
[01:16:42.300 --> 01:16:46.300]  Could I hold over for real quick, one minute on the other side?
[01:16:46.300 --> 01:16:48.300]  Yes, one minute, because we have a lot of other callers.
[01:16:48.300 --> 01:16:50.300]  The call board's really stacking up.
[01:16:50.300 --> 01:16:51.300]  I understand.
[01:16:51.300 --> 01:16:52.300]  Okay, great.
[01:16:52.300 --> 01:16:53.300]  All right, we'll be right back, folks.
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[01:18:00.300 --> 01:18:06.300]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy.
[01:18:06.300 --> 01:18:09.300]  And neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
[01:18:09.300 --> 01:18:12.300]  Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then.
[01:18:12.300 --> 01:18:13.300]  Brave New Books?
[01:18:13.300 --> 01:18:14.300]  Yes.
[01:18:14.300 --> 01:18:20.300]  Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and Gilbert Griffin.
[01:18:20.300 --> 01:18:24.300]  They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps.
[01:18:24.300 --> 01:18:26.300]  There's no way a place like that exists.
[01:18:26.300 --> 01:18:32.300]  Go check it out for yourself. It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT.
[01:18:32.300 --> 01:18:35.300]  By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[01:18:35.300 --> 01:18:43.300]  Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility, just behind the bookstore.
[01:18:43.300 --> 01:18:46.300]  It does exist, but when are they open?
[01:18:46.300 --> 01:18:51.300]  Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 9 PM, and 1 to 6 PM on Sundays.
[01:18:51.300 --> 01:18:59.300]  So give them a call at 512-480-2503, or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com.
[01:19:07.300 --> 01:19:09.300]  Okay, folks, we're back. We're taking your calls.
[01:19:09.300 --> 01:19:12.300]  Okay, Guy, quickly.
[01:19:12.300 --> 01:19:21.300]  Okay. Now, Randy, this Motion to Reconsider and the Findings of Facts,
[01:19:21.300 --> 01:19:29.300]  can I combine them into one document, or should I do them separately and timely?
[01:19:29.300 --> 01:19:31.300]  I would do them separately.
[01:19:31.300 --> 01:19:32.300]  Okay.
[01:19:32.300 --> 01:19:37.300]  All the Findings of Facts, if you have points and authorities,
[01:19:37.300 --> 01:19:41.300]  you're going to need points and authorities for the Motion to Reconsider.
[01:19:41.300 --> 01:19:46.300]  You ask for a Motion to Reconsider, and then you tell the court why they should reconsider.
[01:19:46.300 --> 01:19:49.300]  This is the facts. This is the law.
[01:19:49.300 --> 01:19:56.300]  This is the decision you should have came to and asked them to reconsider their decision.
[01:19:56.300 --> 01:20:03.300]  And when he denies that, then file for the Findings of Facts included in the law.
[01:20:03.300 --> 01:20:10.300]  Okay. I know I don't want to stand against the other caller, so I thank you so much.
[01:20:10.300 --> 01:20:13.300]  I'll take that on advisement. I appreciate it very much.
[01:20:13.300 --> 01:20:14.300]  All right. Thanks, Guy.
[01:20:14.300 --> 01:20:15.300]  Good night.
[01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:20.300]  Okay. Let's see. We are continuing on to your calls.
[01:20:20.300 --> 01:20:24.300]  We are going now to Boris in Texas. Boris, thanks for calling in.
[01:20:24.300 --> 01:20:26.300]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:20:26.300 --> 01:20:27.300]  Hello?
[01:20:27.300 --> 01:20:29.300]  Yes, what's on your mind?
[01:20:29.300 --> 01:20:37.300]  Okay. On the topic of gathering information about the judge, the prosecutor, and the police officer,
[01:20:37.300 --> 01:20:45.300]  I've heard various people, including some callers you've had, talk about gathering information about them.
[01:20:45.300 --> 01:20:56.300]  One would be the judge and the retirement account possibly being funded by proceeds from traffic tickets.
[01:20:56.300 --> 01:21:03.300]  And the other is I was wondering if when you go in for the trial just on a traffic case,
[01:21:03.300 --> 01:21:09.300]  is there anything that you can ask them for that they're required to show you on the spot there
[01:21:09.300 --> 01:21:16.300]  without any prior research from the Secretary of State's website or whatnot?
[01:21:16.300 --> 01:21:24.300]  So I've heard of like a foreign agent registration statement, anti-bribery statement, and so forth.
[01:21:24.300 --> 01:21:29.300]  But when you actually go in for the trial, can you ask them for something right there?
[01:21:29.300 --> 01:21:33.300]  There's more than that.
[01:21:33.300 --> 01:21:43.300]  These custodians of the record routinely put in requests to the attorney general for an opinion.
[01:21:43.300 --> 01:21:51.300]  When I asked for records, I tried to craft my request in the terms of an attorney general opinion
[01:21:51.300 --> 01:21:55.300]  stating what records are open for public inspection.
[01:21:55.300 --> 01:22:02.300]  It is the responsibility of the custodian of the record to know if there are pre-existing determinations.
[01:22:02.300 --> 01:22:07.300]  If I request records for which there are pre-existing determinations
[01:22:07.300 --> 01:22:15.300]  and the custodian requests an opinion from the attorney general, I file criminal charges against him for it.
[01:22:15.300 --> 01:22:20.300]  Open records is an art, and you can have great fun with it.
[01:22:20.300 --> 01:22:23.300]  The Open Records Act is not a civil statute.
[01:22:23.300 --> 01:22:28.300]  It's a criminal statute. It's a Class A misdemeanor to violate it.
[01:22:28.300 --> 01:22:34.300]  So if a department makes a request for an opinion when there are pre-existing determinations,
[01:22:34.300 --> 01:22:37.300]  that's the violation of the Act.
[01:22:37.300 --> 01:22:39.300]  And I immediately prepare criminal charges against them.
[01:22:39.300 --> 01:22:42.300]  That tends to get their attention.
[01:22:42.300 --> 01:22:47.300]  And it's especially good if it's a judge or a clerk,
[01:22:47.300 --> 01:22:51.300]  because what the clerks and the judges will tell you is that their records
[01:22:51.300 --> 01:22:54.300]  don't fall under the Open Records Act.
[01:22:54.300 --> 01:22:59.300]  And that's true if they are judicial records.
[01:22:59.300 --> 01:23:08.300]  But the administrative records of the court, like their oath of office and records of payment,
[01:23:08.300 --> 01:23:15.300]  any of the records that don't come out of a civil or criminal court file,
[01:23:15.300 --> 01:23:20.300]  those fall under the Open Records Act.
[01:23:20.300 --> 01:23:23.300]  And you can share that with them.
[01:23:23.300 --> 01:23:31.300]  So you have to do this research a bit beforehand?
[01:23:31.300 --> 01:23:35.300]  Yeah, but it's pretty simple.
[01:23:35.300 --> 01:23:41.300]  You can go to the attorney general website and search their attorney general opinions.
[01:23:41.300 --> 01:23:46.300]  And 90% of the records of everything out there that you're going to ask for
[01:23:46.300 --> 01:23:50.300]  has already been adjudicated.
[01:23:50.300 --> 01:23:56.300]  All of these requests for opinions are just stalling tactics.
[01:23:56.300 --> 01:23:58.300]  That's why I hammer them real quick.
[01:23:58.300 --> 01:24:02.300]  They make a request, I file a complaint.
[01:24:02.300 --> 01:24:07.300]  Now we put them in a position to show why they filed the request
[01:24:07.300 --> 01:24:15.300]  when there were pre-existing determinations in order to avoid criminal prosecution.
[01:24:15.300 --> 01:24:17.300]  So look at it.
[01:24:17.300 --> 01:24:18.300]  It's not hard.
[01:24:18.300 --> 01:24:23.300]  Just go to the attorney general site and just use keywords like you would any other search.
[01:24:23.300 --> 01:24:24.300]  Okay.
[01:24:24.300 --> 01:24:30.300]  But in the courtroom itself, like when you're going for a trial,
[01:24:30.300 --> 01:24:34.300]  there's nothing to ask for like right there on the spot.
[01:24:34.300 --> 01:24:46.300]  I mean it seems like we're supposed to show our license, our insurance and everything else.
[01:24:46.300 --> 01:24:54.300]  And it seems like some of these things should be things that they should have to produce
[01:24:54.300 --> 01:24:58.300]  rather than us doing the legwork on all of that.
[01:24:58.300 --> 01:24:59.300]  Do you see what I mean?
[01:24:59.300 --> 01:25:08.300]  I mean it may not be that way but it seems like they would have to produce these things when asked for.
[01:25:08.300 --> 01:25:16.300]  It would seem that way but there are statutes that require you to produce identification.
[01:25:16.300 --> 01:25:23.300]  There are no statutes that require the court to produce anything on demand that I know of.
[01:25:23.300 --> 01:25:26.300]  I mean instantly.
[01:25:26.300 --> 01:25:33.300]  They generally always, the only things that require them to produce are the Open Records Act
[01:25:33.300 --> 01:25:41.300]  and in text it would be 1.24 Code of Criminal Procedure which says all courts shall be public.
[01:25:41.300 --> 01:25:47.300]  It would be the constitutional right to a public court requires them to produce public records
[01:25:47.300 --> 01:25:54.300]  but there are generally court rules that give them like 10 days to produce the records.
[01:25:54.300 --> 01:26:02.300]  So they don't hold themselves to that same standard but in the end it's reasonable.
[01:26:02.300 --> 01:26:10.300]  If a policeman stops you on the street and has reason to believe that you've committed a crime
[01:26:10.300 --> 01:26:18.300]  and asks for your identification, he gives you 10 days to give him your identification, your history.
[01:26:18.300 --> 01:26:21.300]  He can only demand your identification if you've already been arrested.
[01:26:21.300 --> 01:26:22.300]  Yes.
[01:26:22.300 --> 01:26:26.300]  It's not just they stop you because they think that you might have committed a crime.
[01:26:26.300 --> 01:26:28.300]  They have to arrest you.
[01:26:28.300 --> 01:26:30.300]  They have to take you into custody.
[01:26:30.300 --> 01:26:31.300]  Exactly.
[01:26:31.300 --> 01:26:32.300]  They can subsequently release you.
[01:26:32.300 --> 01:26:36.300]  Which means that there has to be probable cause that you've committed a crime
[01:26:36.300 --> 01:26:39.300]  and you have to be taken into custody before they can demand your ID.
[01:26:39.300 --> 01:26:41.300]  Yes but that's a different issue.
[01:26:41.300 --> 01:26:45.300]  What I'm getting to here is the court is always there.
[01:26:45.300 --> 01:26:50.300]  You can go to them at any time and make a request for this information.
[01:26:50.300 --> 01:26:54.300]  So it would be unreasonable to say that if somebody comes in and asks for something,
[01:26:54.300 --> 01:27:00.300]  you have to throw down everything you're doing and run and get what he wants and get it that instant.
[01:27:00.300 --> 01:27:06.300]  There's nothing there that has that requirement that I know of.
[01:27:06.300 --> 01:27:07.300]  Okay.
[01:27:07.300 --> 01:27:10.300]  Now I wonder if the judge has a retirement account.
[01:27:10.300 --> 01:27:12.300]  I'm sure you've heard something about that.
[01:27:12.300 --> 01:27:14.300]  I guess that wouldn't fall under...
[01:27:14.300 --> 01:27:17.300]  All of this should be done prior to court.
[01:27:17.300 --> 01:27:18.300]  Right.
[01:27:18.300 --> 01:27:22.300]  And you can use that information to impeach the court.
[01:27:22.300 --> 01:27:25.300]  But you need to do that ahead of time.
[01:27:25.300 --> 01:27:26.300]  And you should anyway.
[01:27:26.300 --> 01:27:31.300]  You need to have all your stuff ready when you get there and not wait until the last minute.
[01:27:31.300 --> 01:27:32.300]  Yeah.
[01:27:32.300 --> 01:27:33.300]  Okay.
[01:27:33.300 --> 01:27:34.300]  Okay.
[01:27:34.300 --> 01:27:35.300]  All right.
[01:27:35.300 --> 01:27:36.300]  Thanks a lot, Randy.
[01:27:36.300 --> 01:27:37.300]  All right.
[01:27:37.300 --> 01:27:38.300]  Thank you.
[01:27:38.300 --> 01:27:39.300]  Thank you, Boris.
[01:27:39.300 --> 01:27:40.300]  All right.
[01:27:40.300 --> 01:27:41.300]  You have a good night.
[01:27:41.300 --> 01:27:42.300]  Okay.
[01:27:42.300 --> 01:27:43.300]  We're going now to Paul in Texas.
[01:27:43.300 --> 01:27:44.300]  Paul, thanks for calling in.
[01:27:44.300 --> 01:27:46.300]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:27:46.300 --> 01:27:48.300]  Yes.
[01:27:48.300 --> 01:27:53.300]  Number one, I'd like to thank you guys for your time and effort here to help us out here.
[01:27:53.300 --> 01:27:54.300]  Thank God for you guys.
[01:27:54.300 --> 01:27:56.300]  Eddie, I love your commentary.
[01:27:56.300 --> 01:27:59.300]  I'm hoping to get back, you know, get some info on your case.
[01:27:59.300 --> 01:28:01.300]  But Randy, question.
[01:28:01.300 --> 01:28:06.300]  I've got a couple of properties and that I...they're clear titled.
[01:28:06.300 --> 01:28:12.300]  And before I found out about the debacle, about five years ago, pulled out an equity loan,
[01:28:12.300 --> 01:28:16.300]  a line of loans of both properties to invest elsewhere.
[01:28:16.300 --> 01:28:25.300]  My question is, is it possible that there could be some type of predatory loan that I should be aware of?
[01:28:25.300 --> 01:28:27.300]  Possible?
[01:28:27.300 --> 01:28:28.300]  Yeah, I mean...
[01:28:28.300 --> 01:28:33.300]  If you got a loan five years ago, it's a virtual certainty.
[01:28:33.300 --> 01:28:34.300]  Okay.
[01:28:34.300 --> 01:28:42.300]  How can I go about finding out what procedure should I do, go to county records, and what do I ask for?
[01:28:42.300 --> 01:28:47.300]  Oh, you won't find this in the...if you're looking for the fraud in the loan?
[01:28:47.300 --> 01:28:48.300]  Yes.
[01:28:48.300 --> 01:28:57.300]  Most of...the one thing you look for in the county record is assignment of the security instrument.
[01:28:57.300 --> 01:29:05.300]  Every sale of the security instrument is required to be filed with the county recorder's office.
[01:29:05.300 --> 01:29:06.300]  Uh-huh.
[01:29:06.300 --> 01:29:09.300]  It's required to be a public sale.
[01:29:09.300 --> 01:29:18.300]  So you want to find every filing in the court records showing the sale of the security instrument.
[01:29:18.300 --> 01:29:21.300]  What would I ask for to get that?
[01:29:21.300 --> 01:29:23.300]  Just explain to the clerk what you want.
[01:29:23.300 --> 01:29:27.300]  They keep them in different registers.
[01:29:27.300 --> 01:29:32.300]  So different clerks will keep them in different places.
[01:29:32.300 --> 01:29:33.300]  Okay.
[01:29:33.300 --> 01:29:37.300]  And you also want to find the title.
[01:29:37.300 --> 01:29:38.300]  Titles and all this.
[01:29:38.300 --> 01:29:39.300]  Okay.
[01:29:39.300 --> 01:29:40.300]  Thank you so much.
[01:29:40.300 --> 01:29:41.300]  All right.
[01:29:41.300 --> 01:29:42.300]  Is that all, Paul?
[01:29:42.300 --> 01:29:43.300]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:29:43.300 --> 01:29:44.300]  I appreciate it.
[01:29:44.300 --> 01:29:45.300]  Okay, great.
[01:29:45.300 --> 01:29:46.300]  All right.
[01:29:46.300 --> 01:29:48.300]  When we get back on the other side, we're going to go to Mark in Texas.
[01:29:48.300 --> 01:29:50.300]  After that, we've got open phone lines.
[01:29:50.300 --> 01:29:55.300]  So folks, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
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[01:31:26.300 --> 01:31:30.300]  The lump turned out to be fibrosarcoma, a dangerous form of cancer.
[01:31:30.300 --> 01:31:34.300]  Fortunately, Balkan survived after surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation.
[01:31:34.300 --> 01:31:40.300]  Now his owner is suing Home Again's parent company, Merck, for expenses and wants to alert others to the problem.
[01:31:40.300 --> 01:31:44.300]  If your pet has a microchip, check the implant site regularly for lumps.
[01:31:44.300 --> 01:31:49.300]  Have anything suspicious examined by your vet, and if your pet is chip-free, keep it that way.
[01:31:49.300 --> 01:31:52.300]  A collar and a tag never gave anyone cancer.
[01:31:52.300 --> 01:32:11.300]  I'm Dr. Catherine Ulbrich. More news and information at CatherineUlbrich.com.
[01:32:11.300 --> 01:32:22.300]  All of them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, put a chip in your body. And then when you go computer reading, you can't hide myself from nobody. What me say?
[01:32:22.300 --> 01:32:36.300]  Chip in your mom, chip in your daddy, chip in your grandpa and the granny. Chip in me, chip in your baby, chip in your family, whole family. Chip in your dad and the cat around me. Chip in the beef and you still go eat it.
[01:32:36.300 --> 01:32:48.300]  Chip in the fish, they fall in the sea. Chip in the shark and the whale around me. You see mankind going chip crazy. They're the king of the king, and they want to read it. Social security, they've got to read it.
[01:32:48.300 --> 01:32:55.300]  All right, not going to put a chip in me. Chip in the morning, chip in the evening, chip in your holiday, not tell me.
[01:32:55.300 --> 01:33:08.300]  They want to chip us all. That's what that previous PSA was about. They're chipping our animals now, and guess who's next, folks, unless we do something about it. Different issue.
[01:33:08.300 --> 01:33:18.300]  But at any rate, we've got callers on the line. We've got two first-time callers. We had a number of first-time callers tonight. We've got Mark from Texas, Chuck in Ohio. Mark from Texas, you're next.
[01:33:18.300 --> 01:33:21.300]  Thanks for calling in, Mark. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:33:21.300 --> 01:33:38.300]  Yes, good evening. I'd remind everybody this is the, quote, rule of law, close quote, so given that basis, when you speak of assignment of the security instrument and title as it relates to property,
[01:33:38.300 --> 01:33:57.300]  it is the substance of my call, and MERS in particular being the nominee for the trust for my lender in the midst of quite possibly imminent foreclosure proceedings.
[01:33:57.300 --> 01:34:19.300]  I ask, Randy, what it is someone like myself can do out there to blacken the eye of these predators who would see fit to exercise a right they perceive to have rightly.
[01:34:19.300 --> 01:34:36.300]  So they think, anyway, I believe wrongly to foreclose. So my question essentially is this, what does someone do in a situation where they are very likely, after going through all the hoops,
[01:34:36.300 --> 01:35:02.300]  which are redundant and really almost insulting with the lender to modify only to find it is a fruitless endeavor, having been notified that they intend to pursue their stated course from the very beginning in the final analysis to foreclose.
[01:35:02.300 --> 01:35:13.300]  What can someone do in this particular predicament or who can someone speak with that can guide them accordingly to fight back the process?
[01:35:13.300 --> 01:35:25.300]  Okay, we can guide you accordingly to fight back the process, and they can tell you in three little letters what you have to do to stop the lender.
[01:35:25.300 --> 01:35:36.300]  SUE, that's the only thing that will get their attention, sue them. And sue them for the fraud they committed.
[01:35:36.300 --> 01:35:46.300]  Right now, the sky is falling in on the mortgage industry. The lenders are getting clobbered from every side.
[01:35:46.300 --> 01:36:04.300]  When we first started doing this, the 95% of all foreclosures went uncontested. The last number I heard was 53% are being contested, I'm sorry, 53% are uncontested.
[01:36:04.300 --> 01:36:21.300]  So people are taking them on. The courts are getting overcrowded. The legislature is going into an election with 11% approval rating, and they have essentially thrown the lenders to the wolves.
[01:36:21.300 --> 01:36:25.300]  So sue them for the fraud that they have committed.
[01:36:25.300 --> 01:36:39.300]  And I would expect that that would be the case. How does one like myself go about pursuing that remedy using the suit as a vehicle?
[01:36:39.300 --> 01:36:57.300]  Because clearly, I'm not a lawyer, much to my mother's disappointment. So I would probably need one in all likelihood. If not, what are the steps, or where can I be guided to the steps?
[01:36:57.300 --> 01:37:12.300]  You can go to remediesandrealestate.com, and that's one of our websites. I do a program. We have a group that does a program to help people get into court.
[01:37:12.300 --> 01:37:32.300]  And we will provide a qualified written request and a tort letter that sets you up to meet all the conditions you need to get into court. And then you can take that tort letter and qualified written request and send it to the paralegals that we have on board that are out of country.
[01:37:32.300 --> 01:37:41.300]  And for a very inexpensive amount, they'll convert it into a lawsuit and discovery.
[01:37:41.300 --> 01:37:51.300]  It takes a lawsuit to stop them. They don't pay any attention to anything else. And right now, the sky's falling in on them. You have MERS in your law.
[01:37:51.300 --> 01:38:19.300]  We just got two opinions out of the Southern court, the federal court in California, the San Diego courts. These were bankruptcy courts, where one of them, the guy came in on Chapter 7 and said, I have this property here with a loan against it, but it's unsecured.
[01:38:19.300 --> 01:38:33.300]  And the lender came by and said, oh, no, no, no, no, it's not unsecured. We have a lien against it, and we have a claim. And the guy said, prove it. Prove your claim, and we'll move to Chapter 13.
[01:38:33.300 --> 01:38:39.300]  Well, the bank made no attempt to prove their claim because they had MERS involved in the note.
[01:38:39.300 --> 01:38:56.300]  The second one was against MERS directly. MERS was trying to do the foreclosure, and the court ruled that MERS absolutely had zero standing because MERS never owned the note.
[01:38:56.300 --> 01:39:05.300]  MERS never had an investment in the note. So MERS had no standing to move to foreclosure.
[01:39:05.300 --> 01:39:20.300]  MERS has gotten clobbered. That particular ruling essentially put 62 million notes across the country in jeopardy. It essentially made them unforeclosable.
[01:39:20.300 --> 01:39:49.300]  Okay, so let's assume, perhaps safely, that such can be proved up in court. What would then be for the individual, perhaps like myself, what would be the outcome of such a thing as it relates to the real estate, as it relates to my obligations to it and who I pay and what I pay?
[01:39:49.300 --> 01:40:04.300]  Okay, now that's asking me to predict. And the one thing I tell people when I do seminars is there's no guarantees. The courts are absolutely corrupt. Everything is a crapshoot.
[01:40:04.300 --> 01:40:17.300]  Anybody that tells you any different is lying to you. We can get every law that we need, everything in place, and the courts are going to rule the way the courts are going to rule.
[01:40:17.300 --> 01:40:33.300]  The good side of that is, is the courts for the last 15, 20 years have almost exclusively ruled in the favor of the lender. Here in the last few months, the worm is turning.
[01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:48.300]  All of our House of Representatives, all of them are up for election. They're going in with 11% approval rating. They needed something to throw at the voter to give the voter a reason to vote for them.
[01:40:48.300 --> 01:40:59.300]  And the only viable candidate out there was the lender, and they're throwing the lenders to the wolves. So the courts are beginning to rule in our favor.
[01:40:59.300 --> 01:41:13.300]  All we can do is stack the cards in our favor as much as possible. We prepare a very extensive lawsuit. We start out with a very large fraud claim against the lender.
[01:41:13.300 --> 01:41:19.300]  We have the law stacked in our favor, but no guarantees.
[01:41:19.300 --> 01:41:33.300]  Now, let's just say, let's just use supposition. Should it go against the lender? What one, what could one perhaps expect?
[01:41:33.300 --> 01:41:44.300]  Okay. When I do seminars, hypothetically, the first thing I ask people to do is I hand out a bunch of 3x5 cards, and if they have any questions, put them on one side.
[01:41:44.300 --> 01:41:54.300]  The first thing to do is turn it over and write down on that card what for you would be an equitable outcome.
[01:41:54.300 --> 01:42:02.300]  If you could get what is a good and fair outcome for you, what would that be? Write it down.
[01:42:02.300 --> 01:42:18.300]  Because when I start through all of the fraud that the lenders commit, when I demonstrate how lenders for the last 10 years, at least, have deliberately created loans they intended to default
[01:42:18.300 --> 01:42:32.300]  and show how they profit at each step of the default and how they defraud not only the borrower, but the backside investor. They steal from the borrower.
[01:42:32.300 --> 01:42:40.300]  They steal the borrower's equity in their property on the front end, and then they create this note and sell it to an investor.
[01:42:40.300 --> 01:42:56.300]  Generally, the borrower's retirement funds, he sells it to them 20 or 30 times, and then when the fund that they're investing in,
[01:42:56.300 --> 01:43:09.300]  when the real estate mortgage investment conduit fails, then they swallow your retirement funds.
[01:43:09.300 --> 01:43:18.300]  And then they stack derivatives against the property, which are essentially insurance policies,
[01:43:18.300 --> 01:43:24.300]  so that when you foreclose they're going to collect 8 to 10 times the amount of your principal.
[01:43:24.300 --> 01:43:29.300]  And when the companies that are backing those derivatives get in financial trouble,
[01:43:29.300 --> 01:43:37.300]  they go to your government and ask your public officials to spend your tax money to bail them out.
[01:43:37.300 --> 01:43:43.300]  Okay, so what's the answer to the question? What should people, what do they really should be expecting?
[01:43:43.300 --> 01:43:50.300]  I'd want quiet title, and I'd want all my money back that I ever paid into the mortgage, too.
[01:43:50.300 --> 01:43:53.300]  I think that that's what we're entitled to. Is that correct, Randy?
[01:43:53.300 --> 01:43:55.300]  That's not unreasonable.
[01:43:55.300 --> 01:44:00.300]  Okay, we'll be right back, and Chuck, you're next.
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[01:46:07.300 --> 01:46:09.300]  Okay, folks, Mark dropped us off the line.
[01:46:09.300 --> 01:46:10.300]  We were going to go back to Mark.
[01:46:10.300 --> 01:46:18.300]  But at any rate, like I said, if it was me, and I may very well pursue this method,
[01:46:18.300 --> 01:46:23.300]  but Randy has to do a little bit more research because we don't have a mortgage in our situation.
[01:46:23.300 --> 01:46:27.300]  It's a line of credit, and Randy hasn't thoroughly researched that situation out yet.
[01:46:27.300 --> 01:46:31.300]  But I'll tell you, if it was me with the mortgage, I would be asking for quiet title,
[01:46:31.300 --> 01:46:38.300]  and I would be asking back for all the money I paid into it in triplicate because of the fraud,
[01:46:38.300 --> 01:46:40.300]  the punitive damages, the whole nine yards.
[01:46:40.300 --> 01:46:46.300]  Now, Mark, that is at the top end of what somebody would ask for because, well,
[01:46:46.300 --> 01:46:48.300]  that's just the way I roll.
[01:46:48.300 --> 01:46:52.300]  And I may get less, but I would ask for the whole ball of wax.
[01:46:52.300 --> 01:46:55.300]  That is just about everything that you could ask for.
[01:46:55.300 --> 01:47:02.300]  So, Randy, should everyone ask for that much or what is reasonable to ask for?
[01:47:02.300 --> 01:47:04.300]  And then, Chuck, just stay on the line.
[01:47:04.300 --> 01:47:06.300]  We're going to go to you next.
[01:47:06.300 --> 01:47:12.300]  I do an analysis on the note, and I can generally, on a $300,000 note,
[01:47:12.300 --> 01:47:18.300]  I can generally come up with about a million to a million two in fraud claim against the lender.
[01:47:18.300 --> 01:47:21.300]  On a note of how much?
[01:47:21.300 --> 01:47:22.300]  $300,000.
[01:47:22.300 --> 01:47:24.300]  Okay, yes, because we're talking in triplicate.
[01:47:24.300 --> 01:47:25.300]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:47:25.300 --> 01:47:30.300]  So you would ask back not only for what you've paid into it,
[01:47:30.300 --> 01:47:36.300]  but for what you would have been defrauded had the fraud come to its complete fruition.
[01:47:36.300 --> 01:47:38.300]  You ask for triple of that.
[01:47:38.300 --> 01:47:42.300]  So, in other words, you ask for triple of the value of the note,
[01:47:42.300 --> 01:47:46.300]  which on a $300,000 note would be, you know, a little over a million bucks.
[01:47:46.300 --> 01:47:49.300]  So that's what I would ask for, plus quiet title.
[01:47:49.300 --> 01:47:52.300]  And I tell everybody that, you know, this is what you ask for.
[01:47:52.300 --> 01:48:03.300]  But what I want you to put on this piece of paper is what, if at the end of the day, would be equitable for you.
[01:48:03.300 --> 01:48:06.300]  I come up with this large fraud claim, and I tell everybody,
[01:48:06.300 --> 01:48:12.300]  once I work out all the details and show them precisely how I get to that number, to the penny,
[01:48:12.300 --> 01:48:16.300]  then I tell them this is song and dance and seltzer down your pants.
[01:48:16.300 --> 01:48:21.300]  If you really think you're going to get this amount of money, you're dreaming.
[01:48:21.300 --> 01:48:26.300]  But it gives you a good claim to come in with, and we can support the claim.
[01:48:26.300 --> 01:48:33.300]  But to expect that a jury is going to award you that, there's a possibility, but very unlikely.
[01:48:33.300 --> 01:48:40.300]  The other side can whittle this number down if they're smart and on their toes, and we don't care,
[01:48:40.300 --> 01:48:48.300]  because if we can really annoy the jury, the only number they're going to remember is the one you came in with.
[01:48:48.300 --> 01:48:55.300]  But in the end, it would be unreasonable to ask for more than was equitable.
[01:48:55.300 --> 01:49:04.300]  You have to ask for more in order to get what you want, but always keep in mind what's equitable for you in the end.
[01:49:04.300 --> 01:49:08.300]  Well, remember, you have to ask for more than what you're really willing to settle for,
[01:49:08.300 --> 01:49:12.300]  because it's just like negotiating, bargaining with used car salesmen.
[01:49:12.300 --> 01:49:15.300]  You're going to go back and forth until, you know, an agreement is reached.
[01:49:15.300 --> 01:49:21.300]  So if you ask for exactly what you want, then you're going to get whittled down from there.
[01:49:21.300 --> 01:49:23.300]  So you have to ask for more.
[01:49:23.300 --> 01:49:32.300]  And we remind everybody that no matter how angry you feel, in the end, you need to do what's right and what's equitable.
[01:49:32.300 --> 01:49:35.300]  Yes, these guys are thieves and scoundrels.
[01:49:35.300 --> 01:49:40.300]  But if you ask a jury to give you something that's unreasonable, they're liable to spank you.
[01:49:40.300 --> 01:49:42.300]  It's all a crap shoot.
[01:49:42.300 --> 01:49:46.300]  But with fraud, this is case law.
[01:49:46.300 --> 01:49:49.300]  That is a cause of action.
[01:49:49.300 --> 01:49:53.300]  You typically ask for three times the amount of what you would have been defrauded.
[01:49:53.300 --> 01:49:56.300]  That is just by the books.
[01:49:56.300 --> 01:50:04.300]  Yeah, you can do that, but I always try to remind people that this is like a negotiation.
[01:50:04.300 --> 01:50:08.300]  You always keep in mind in a negotiation where you want to be.
[01:50:08.300 --> 01:50:13.300]  Don't lose track based on a number you come in with.
[01:50:13.300 --> 01:50:15.300]  That's just a negotiating point.
[01:50:15.300 --> 01:50:16.300]  Right.
[01:50:16.300 --> 01:50:23.300]  And if we expect something equitable, we have a good chance we can win.
[01:50:23.300 --> 01:50:27.300]  But if we come in with an unreasonable expectation, we're always going to lose.
[01:50:27.300 --> 01:50:31.300]  Like maybe, say for example, well, I'd be willing to walk away with quiet title.
[01:50:31.300 --> 01:50:32.300]  How about that?
[01:50:32.300 --> 01:50:38.300]  We'll just blow off all the money I got defrauded, all the payments that I made.
[01:50:38.300 --> 01:50:42.300]  Just give me the title, quiet title, which means nobody else can come with the court orders.
[01:50:42.300 --> 01:50:44.300]  No one else can come with a claim against the title.
[01:50:44.300 --> 01:50:46.300]  Just give me that, and then we'll call it even.
[01:50:46.300 --> 01:50:50.300]  So it's going to be up to each individual what they're going to be willing to settle for.
[01:50:50.300 --> 01:50:54.300]  Some people may want to settle for a modification or something.
[01:50:54.300 --> 01:50:57.300]  Let me address this quiet title quickly.
[01:50:57.300 --> 01:51:00.300]  We've got to go to Chuck before we run out of time.
[01:51:00.300 --> 01:51:08.300]  The quiet title is incredibly important because these lenders have created this securitization scheme,
[01:51:08.300 --> 01:51:11.300]  and it's caused a break in the chain of title.
[01:51:11.300 --> 01:51:16.300]  This country became a mecca for foreign investment because you could come to the United States
[01:51:16.300 --> 01:51:21.300]  and invest in property, and you could trace the ownership of that title,
[01:51:21.300 --> 01:51:27.300]  that property all the way back to the original land grant with no breaks in it.
[01:51:27.300 --> 01:51:33.300]  This securitization scheme has destroyed all that.
[01:51:33.300 --> 01:51:40.300]  So you may have a dozen people that can come and claim your property.
[01:51:40.300 --> 01:51:44.300]  Nobody's going to invest in the United States under those conditions.
[01:51:44.300 --> 01:51:49.300]  If the courts grant quiet title against all claims,
[01:51:49.300 --> 01:51:56.300]  they eliminate that problem that's going to haunt us for generations if we don't fix it.
[01:51:56.300 --> 01:51:58.300]  So that's reasonable.
[01:51:58.300 --> 01:51:59.300]  Okay. All right.
[01:51:59.300 --> 01:52:01.300]  Let's go to Chuck in Ohio.
[01:52:01.300 --> 01:52:02.300]  All right, Chuck, thanks for holding.
[01:52:02.300 --> 01:52:03.300]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:52:03.300 --> 01:52:05.300]  Yeah, hi.
[01:52:05.300 --> 01:52:07.300]  Yeah, I buy some properties.
[01:52:07.300 --> 01:52:09.300]  I own my own house and all that.
[01:52:09.300 --> 01:52:12.300]  But sometimes we go out and buy some tax-sale properties.
[01:52:12.300 --> 01:52:18.300]  Most counties in the state of Ohio forgive to lean on a tax-sale property,
[01:52:18.300 --> 01:52:22.300]  but there is a few counties that do not.
[01:52:22.300 --> 01:52:28.300]  If I were to buy a piece of property at a tax sale, I would have the deed.
[01:52:28.300 --> 01:52:31.300]  I would have a sheriff sale deed or a tax sale deed on a property.
[01:52:31.300 --> 01:52:33.300]  But the lien is not forgiven.
[01:52:33.300 --> 01:52:38.300]  Being opportunist, now you already jumped the deed one time.
[01:52:38.300 --> 01:52:45.300]  And if it's got a lien like this on this property, could I somehow win it?
[01:52:45.300 --> 01:52:53.300]  Very unlikely if the entity with the lien met all of the legal requirements.
[01:52:53.300 --> 01:52:57.300]  If they express the lien timely within the limits required by law,
[01:52:57.300 --> 01:52:59.300]  it would be real hard to beat that one.
[01:52:59.300 --> 01:53:03.300]  Because when you purchase at a tax sale or at a foreclosure sale,
[01:53:03.300 --> 01:53:06.300]  you purchase at your peril.
[01:53:06.300 --> 01:53:08.300]  So you even it?
[01:53:08.300 --> 01:53:12.300]  I mean, there's five or six hundred parcels every year,
[01:53:12.300 --> 01:53:15.300]  and we always look through the liens and look and search,
[01:53:15.300 --> 01:53:18.300]  but we always see liens, so many of them.
[01:53:18.300 --> 01:53:21.300]  And you look at some of these properties, why did they do it?
[01:53:21.300 --> 01:53:23.300]  Why did they just walk away from the house?
[01:53:23.300 --> 01:53:24.300]  It's still illegal in their name.
[01:53:24.300 --> 01:53:26.300]  They have not been foreclosed on it.
[01:53:26.300 --> 01:53:29.300]  I thought, well, maybe this would be an opportunity to walk in
[01:53:29.300 --> 01:53:31.300]  and then take the property.
[01:53:31.300 --> 01:53:34.300]  You already got possession of the property because you got the deed.
[01:53:34.300 --> 01:53:36.300]  Here's a suggestion.
[01:53:36.300 --> 01:53:39.300]  And I know someone who does tax-sale properties,
[01:53:39.300 --> 01:53:42.300]  and he looks for properties with liens on them.
[01:53:42.300 --> 01:53:45.300]  And then what he does is goes to the lien holder and say,
[01:53:45.300 --> 01:53:48.300]  look, this is going to sell at a tax sale.
[01:53:48.300 --> 01:53:53.300]  You may be able to recover the lien, but it's going to be very difficult.
[01:53:53.300 --> 01:53:57.300]  I'll give you five hundred bucks where you sign off on the lien.
[01:53:57.300 --> 01:54:02.300]  And he gets these cleared out regularly.
[01:54:02.300 --> 01:54:07.300]  I thought, you know, I mean, I heard you on the April Wars the other day.
[01:54:07.300 --> 01:54:11.300]  I thought, well, there's a good idea to make us think about that.
[01:54:11.300 --> 01:54:12.300]  Okay.
[01:54:12.300 --> 01:54:15.300]  Well, and I thank you very, very much for your time and everything.
[01:54:15.300 --> 01:54:21.300]  The liens that are on the property may be the result of fraudulent loans,
[01:54:21.300 --> 01:54:28.300]  but that doesn't help you because you have no standing to address the lien
[01:54:28.300 --> 01:54:30.300]  because the fraud wasn't against you.
[01:54:30.300 --> 01:54:34.300]  But generally they'll sign off on the lien just so they can write it off
[01:54:34.300 --> 01:54:36.300]  and be done with it.
[01:54:36.300 --> 01:54:37.300]  Okay.
[01:54:37.300 --> 01:54:38.300]  Well, that's a good thought.
[01:54:38.300 --> 01:54:39.300]  I thought about it.
[01:54:39.300 --> 01:54:40.300]  Okay.
[01:54:40.300 --> 01:54:41.300]  Well, thank you very much for your time then.
[01:54:41.300 --> 01:54:42.300]  Okay.
[01:54:42.300 --> 01:54:43.300]  All right.
[01:54:43.300 --> 01:54:44.300]  Thanks, Chuck.
[01:54:44.300 --> 01:54:45.300]  Okay.
[01:54:45.300 --> 01:54:46.300]  Bye-bye.
[01:54:46.300 --> 01:54:47.300]  Bye.
[01:54:47.300 --> 01:54:48.300]  Okay, folks.
[01:54:48.300 --> 01:54:49.300]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:54:49.300 --> 01:54:50.300]  Okay.
[01:54:50.300 --> 01:54:51.300]  We've got about three minutes.
[01:54:51.300 --> 01:54:52.300]  I did want to kind of finish up on...
[01:54:52.300 --> 01:54:53.300]  Okay.
[01:54:53.300 --> 01:54:54.300]  All right.
[01:54:54.300 --> 01:54:55.300]  I wanted to make an announcement,
[01:54:55.300 --> 01:54:56.300]  so leave me some time to make an announcement.
[01:54:56.300 --> 01:54:57.300]  Okay.
[01:54:57.300 --> 01:55:05.300]  On expectations, if you have a loan that was created in the last 15 years,
[01:55:05.300 --> 01:55:10.300]  since 2000, it got the worst, and really after 2005,
[01:55:10.300 --> 01:55:13.300]  it was just absolutely outrageous.
[01:55:13.300 --> 01:55:18.300]  If you have a loan that was written after 2005,
[01:55:18.300 --> 01:55:26.300]  you can be almost guaranteed it is absolutely horrendously fraudulent,
[01:55:26.300 --> 01:55:28.300]  and you can take on the lenders.
[01:55:28.300 --> 01:55:30.300]  We don't go after the lenders.
[01:55:30.300 --> 01:55:35.300]  We do claim HOPE, ATILA, RESPA, consumer protection laws,
[01:55:35.300 --> 01:55:37.300]  but they expire...
[01:55:37.300 --> 01:55:43.300]  Your right to sue for civil damages under the Truth in Lending Act expire in a year.
[01:55:43.300 --> 01:55:51.300]  The right to penalties based on Truth in Lending Act violations expire in three years.
[01:55:51.300 --> 01:55:55.300]  We argue equitable tolling on the Truth in Lending Act violations,
[01:55:55.300 --> 01:56:05.300]  but even if they are denied, you have very strong claims of common law fraud,
[01:56:05.300 --> 01:56:12.300]  breach of fiduciary duty, breach of good faith and fair dealings,
[01:56:12.300 --> 01:56:16.300]  primarily because you only deal with licensed professionals.
[01:56:16.300 --> 01:56:19.300]  In dealing with licensed professionals,
[01:56:19.300 --> 01:56:22.300]  you have a right to an expectation of good faith and fair dealings
[01:56:22.300 --> 01:56:27.300]  because these people are overseen by the government.
[01:56:27.300 --> 01:56:31.300]  A reasonable person would expect that they would abide by law.
[01:56:31.300 --> 01:56:35.300]  So when it comes to equitable tolling, they say you have to do due diligence,
[01:56:35.300 --> 01:56:39.300]  and we're claiming that if you only deal with licensed professionals,
[01:56:39.300 --> 01:56:42.300]  that's sufficient due diligence.
[01:56:42.300 --> 01:56:49.300]  You shouldn't be required to know everything there is about high finance.
[01:56:49.300 --> 01:56:52.300]  That's what we have consumer protection laws for,
[01:56:52.300 --> 01:56:58.300]  and since the laws are in place and the people that are performing the duties
[01:56:58.300 --> 01:57:03.300]  are bound to those laws, you have the right to expectation of fair dealing.
[01:57:03.300 --> 01:57:07.300]  So you have a lot of claims you can bring against the lender.
[01:57:07.300 --> 01:57:13.300]  There are a lot of programs out there that offer administrative remedies.
[01:57:13.300 --> 01:57:16.300]  When you read the law, it all sounds good,
[01:57:16.300 --> 01:57:19.300]  but in the end, it just doesn't work.
[01:57:19.300 --> 01:57:24.300]  The only way you're going to enforce the administrative remedies is to sue them.
[01:57:24.300 --> 01:57:26.300]  We might as well sue them in the first place.
[01:57:26.300 --> 01:57:29.300]  We're running out of time here, and Debra has an announcement.
[01:57:29.300 --> 01:57:32.300]  I wanted to announce about our guests for tomorrow night.
[01:57:32.300 --> 01:57:38.300]  We have Jeff Lofton and Jim Currier on from Crime Victims First,
[01:57:38.300 --> 01:57:42.300]  and their website is HelpTV1.org.
[01:57:42.300 --> 01:57:47.300]  These folks contacted me, and they are going about dealing with crimes
[01:57:47.300 --> 01:57:49.300]  in somewhat of a different manner.
[01:57:49.300 --> 01:57:53.300]  We've always preached for people to file criminal complaints,
[01:57:53.300 --> 01:57:58.300]  and they preach to go file police reports.
[01:57:58.300 --> 01:58:03.300]  I spoke with them about this, and I said,
[01:58:03.300 --> 01:58:08.300]  what are you guys doing because there's too much discretion up to the officer?
[01:58:08.300 --> 01:58:13.300]  They said, well, if you want to invoke victims' rights statutes,
[01:58:13.300 --> 01:58:16.300]  you have to make a police report.
[01:58:16.300 --> 01:58:21.300]  I was like, oh, well, so this sounds like a whole new remedy
[01:58:21.300 --> 01:58:24.300]  that we need to pursue concerning victims' rights.
[01:58:24.300 --> 01:58:28.300]  There's nothing to stop victims from filing criminal complaints
[01:58:28.300 --> 01:58:32.300]  with the magistrate or state attorney or the grand jury
[01:58:32.300 --> 01:58:37.300]  and making a police report as well so that they can invoke their victims' rights statutes.
[01:58:37.300 --> 01:58:41.300]  And certainly any time anyone is arrested and taken directly to jail,
[01:58:41.300 --> 01:58:44.300]  they are a victim of aggravated assault and aggravated kidnapping.
[01:58:44.300 --> 01:58:51.300]  So let's see how Jeff Lofton and Jim Currier can help us out concerning victims' rights.
[01:58:51.300 --> 01:58:53.300]  We'll be discussing that tomorrow night.
[01:58:53.300 --> 01:58:57.300]  And don't forget, Saturday at the Convention Center.
[01:58:57.300 --> 01:58:59.300]  We'll be right back.
[01:58:59.300 --> 01:59:14.300]  I'm like a stepping graze, I don't want my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:14.300 --> 01:59:21.300]  If you are a Chucky, nobody Chucky from me.
[01:59:21.300 --> 01:59:29.300]  If you are a Chucky, Chucky, nobody Chucky from me.
[01:59:29.300 --> 01:59:36.300]  I'm like a stepping graze, I don't want my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:36.300 --> 01:59:43.300]  I'm like a stepping graze, I don't want my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:43.300 --> 01:59:51.300]  If you eat out of your mouth, it's a dream, it's cool.
[01:59:51.300 --> 01:59:54.300]  It's a dream, let's move.
[01:59:54.300 --> 02:00:14.300]  You better dream, it's cool.