[00:00.000 --> 00:04.000]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:04.000 --> 00:10.000]  Forty-four million, or one in seven people in the US, lived in poverty in 2009,
[00:10.000 --> 00:13.000]  an increase of four million from the year before.
[00:13.000 --> 00:18.000]  The poverty rate climbed to fourteen point three percent, the highest since 1994.
[00:18.000 --> 00:22.000]  The rise was steepest for children, with one in five residents under eighteen
[00:22.000 --> 00:26.000]  living below the poverty line.
[00:26.000 --> 00:32.000]  Pennsylvania's Homeland Security Office has awarded a $125,000 contract
[00:32.000 --> 00:36.000]  to the Institute of Terrorism Research and Response,
[00:36.000 --> 00:39.000]  a company with extensive links to the Israeli government,
[00:39.000 --> 00:44.000]  to spy on anti-drilling activists.
[00:44.000 --> 00:50.000]  The Israeli government officially approved plans Thursday to buy 20 F-35 stealth fighter jets
[00:50.000 --> 00:55.000]  from defense giant Lockheed Martin for $2.75 billion.
[00:55.000 --> 01:02.000]  The planes are capable of reaching Iran undetected by radar.
[01:02.000 --> 01:07.000]  The Nation magazine says companies linked to the private security firm Blackwater,
[01:07.000 --> 01:13.000]  now called Zee Services, have provided intelligence, training and security services
[01:13.000 --> 01:19.000]  for Monsanto, Chevron, the Walt Disney Company, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines,
[01:19.000 --> 01:23.000]  and banking giants Deutsche Bank and Barclays.
[01:23.000 --> 01:29.000]  Blackwater's work for corporations was contracted using companies owned by Blackwater's owner
[01:29.000 --> 01:35.000]  and founder Eric Prince, Total Intelligence Solutions, and the Terrorism Research Center.
[01:35.000 --> 01:42.000]  Disney hired the companies to do a threat assessment for potential film locations in Morocco.
[01:42.000 --> 01:46.000]  Deutsche Bank hired them to assess Chinese intelligence and Barclays
[01:46.000 --> 01:50.000]  to perform background checks on Saudi businessmen.
[01:50.000 --> 01:54.000]  Total Intelligence sought to become an intel arm of Monsanto,
[01:54.000 --> 01:58.000]  offering to provide operatives to infiltrate activist groups
[01:58.000 --> 02:04.000]  organizing against the agribusiness giant in 2008 and 2009.
[02:04.000 --> 02:07.000]  The International Monetary Fund has warned the U.S. and Europe
[02:07.000 --> 02:14.000]  face the worst jobs crisis since the 1930s and risked an explosion of social unrest.
[02:14.000 --> 02:17.000]  IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn said,
[02:17.000 --> 02:21.000]  the great recession has left behind a wasteland of unemployment,
[02:21.000 --> 02:28.000]  adding high and long-lasting unemployment represents a risk to the stability of existing democracies.
[02:28.000 --> 02:34.000]  An IMF International Labor Federation report found 30 million jobs have been lost since the crisis,
[02:34.000 --> 02:38.000]  three-quarters of which were in the richer economies.
[02:38.000 --> 02:42.000]  Global unemployment has reached 210 million.
[02:42.000 --> 02:50.000]  The IMF said there may be a link between rising inequality within Western economies and deflating demand.
[03:12.000 --> 03:29.000]  Well, bad boy, what you want, what you want, what you gonna do
[03:29.000 --> 03:43.000]  When everything's unbroken for you, tell me what you gonna do, what you gonna do
[03:43.000 --> 03:54.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you
[03:54.000 --> 03:59.000]  When you were eight and you had bad dreams, you go to school and learn the golden rule
[03:59.000 --> 04:05.000]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool, if you get hot then you must get cool
[04:05.000 --> 04:16.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you
[04:16.000 --> 04:20.000]  You took it on that one, you took it on this one, you took it on that one
[04:20.000 --> 04:27.000]  This is The Rule of Law, tonight is Thursday, September 16th, it's 8 p.m. Central Time.
[04:27.000 --> 04:33.000]  I'm Deborah Stevens, here with Randy Kelton and Eddie Craig.
[04:33.000 --> 04:40.000]  And tonight I want to introduce our newest sponsor, Stephen Rogers from Shintrition.
[04:40.000 --> 04:43.000]  Stephen, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
[04:43.000 --> 04:45.000]  Well, thanks for having me on, to all of you.
[04:45.000 --> 04:50.000]  And thank you very much, Deborah, for introducing Shintrition to Austin
[04:50.000 --> 04:52.000]  or being one of the hosts that do that.
[04:52.000 --> 04:55.000]  Catherine Albrecht also, as you know, is a big fan of Shintrition
[04:55.000 --> 04:58.000]  and she really put it around Austin.
[04:58.000 --> 05:04.000]  Yes, and you did send me some product and I did get it earlier this week
[05:04.000 --> 05:07.000]  and I've been taking it and I really love it a lot.
[05:07.000 --> 05:12.000]  I can tell you, one of the primary ingredients is spirulina powder.
[05:12.000 --> 05:13.000]  There's also hemp seed powder.
[05:13.000 --> 05:15.000]  I'm going to let you talk about some of the other ingredients,
[05:15.000 --> 05:20.000]  but I've been taking spirulina for about 20 years, so I'm well accustomed to that.
[05:20.000 --> 05:23.000]  And I tell you, I'm going to need more than one scoop a day of this stuff.
[05:23.000 --> 05:27.000]  I really, really like it.
[05:27.000 --> 05:33.000]  You want to be careful because it's the highest milligram dosage of adaptogenic herbs found anywhere.
[05:33.000 --> 05:35.000]  My background is classical Chinese medicine.
[05:35.000 --> 05:39.000]  I've also been trained in chiropractic and nutrition.
[05:39.000 --> 05:47.000]  And this product went through about 12 years of trial and improvement
[05:47.000 --> 05:54.000]  with about 2,000 patients in private practice, the product that you're taking right now.
[05:54.000 --> 05:56.000]  And there's 40 ingredients in that product.
[05:56.000 --> 06:01.000]  And it took a long time to get them just right so they're synergistically balanced
[06:01.000 --> 06:05.000]  and you get the effects that you obviously felt from the first time you'd taken it.
[06:05.000 --> 06:10.000]  The biggest thing that this combination, you talked about spirulina and hemp seed,
[06:10.000 --> 06:11.000]  I use those as a delivery system.
[06:11.000 --> 06:15.000]  The real impact of this product are the adaptogenic herbs.
[06:15.000 --> 06:20.000]  And a lot of people don't know what those are, but the key word in here is adapt.
[06:20.000 --> 06:25.000]  What we don't realize every day is that we're under all kinds of stressors,
[06:25.000 --> 06:28.000]  mental, emotional, physical, environmental, spiritual stressors.
[06:28.000 --> 06:31.000]  I mean, we are just bombarded with stressors.
[06:31.000 --> 06:37.000]  And the key to optimum health is how do we metabolize those stressors?
[06:37.000 --> 06:40.000]  Now, a lot of people, when they think of stress, they just think about psychological stress,
[06:40.000 --> 06:42.000]  the emotional stress or mental stress.
[06:42.000 --> 06:45.000]  But everything in one way or another causes stress.
[06:45.000 --> 06:46.000]  We can't get away from it.
[06:46.000 --> 06:50.000]  But again, the key to optimum health is how do we metabolize it?
[06:50.000 --> 06:53.000]  Now, when we're young, our adrenals are strong, our endocrine system is strong.
[06:53.000 --> 06:57.000]  So our body mobilizes when stressors attack us,
[06:57.000 --> 07:01.000]  whether they're microbes or environmental toxins or emotional stress.
[07:01.000 --> 07:09.000]  And we respond and we metabolize all the stress as eustress, that's E-U-S-T-R-E-S-S.
[07:09.000 --> 07:11.000]  And that's anabolic, meaning it builds us up.
[07:11.000 --> 07:12.000]  We grow from it.
[07:12.000 --> 07:14.000]  We get healthier from it.
[07:14.000 --> 07:16.000]  Older and our adrenals decline.
[07:16.000 --> 07:21.000]  Everything becomes catabolic or distressful, which begins to break us down,
[07:21.000 --> 07:24.000]  and it becomes disease in the body.
[07:24.000 --> 07:27.000]  So that's what this combination really does,
[07:27.000 --> 07:34.000]  is it helps to restore those adrenals and the life force in the body so we adapt better.
[07:34.000 --> 07:35.000]  Absolutely.
[07:35.000 --> 07:42.000]  And this is a pretty impressive list of proprietary adaptogenic and tonic herbal blend that you have here,
[07:42.000 --> 07:43.000]  a very impressive list of herbs.
[07:43.000 --> 07:47.000]  You've got holey basil leaf powder, lyceum fruit powder,
[07:47.000 --> 07:57.000]  faux tea, American ginseng root, astragalus root, and just a whole list more.
[07:57.000 --> 07:58.000]  There's licorice.
[07:58.000 --> 08:01.000]  There's rhodiola.
[08:01.000 --> 08:03.000]  I mean, it just goes on and on.
[08:03.000 --> 08:05.000]  And definitely you can feel the results.
[08:05.000 --> 08:08.000]  And welcome to have you on board here.
[08:08.000 --> 08:11.000]  And folks, if you'd like to get some of this centrition, again,
[08:11.000 --> 08:18.000]  there's the superfoods blend with hemp seed and spirulina and acai or acai,
[08:18.000 --> 08:20.000]  as some people pronounce it, berry fruit powder.
[08:20.000 --> 08:22.000]  I mean, it just goes on and on.
[08:22.000 --> 08:26.000]  You can purchase that at ruleoflawradio.com.
[08:26.000 --> 08:31.000]  And if you scroll down right underneath where all the photos are of all the hosts on the network,
[08:31.000 --> 08:38.000]  you'll see the banner right there for centrition.
[08:38.000 --> 08:44.000]  So please go there, and your purchases absolutely do support this network.
[08:44.000 --> 08:48.000]  So we encourage everyone to please support the sponsors of this network.
[08:48.000 --> 08:51.000]  You can click on the banner, feel more energy and less stress.
[08:51.000 --> 08:57.000]  And it really is a healthy, a very healthy product to take, and we appreciate that.
[08:57.000 --> 09:04.000]  So why don't you tell us a little more about this herbal blend and your background?
[09:04.000 --> 09:08.000]  You have a master's degree in oriental medicine.
[09:08.000 --> 09:15.000]  You're obviously very schooled and very researched in these types of herbal blends.
[09:15.000 --> 09:19.000]  Well, back in 1993, I got myself in a real jam.
[09:19.000 --> 09:24.000]  I was suffering from alcohol and cocaine addiction.
[09:24.000 --> 09:28.000]  And as you probably are aware of, many of your listeners,
[09:28.000 --> 09:31.000]  that kind of lifestyle will deplete the adrenals and the endocrine system
[09:31.000 --> 09:36.000]  and just leave person pretty much in a state of chronic illness.
[09:36.000 --> 09:40.000]  Well, lucky enough, the Creator was looking out for me,
[09:40.000 --> 09:44.000]  and I got locked up for 18 months for a possession charge.
[09:44.000 --> 09:49.000]  And while I was going through my recovery, if you would, in prison,
[09:49.000 --> 09:52.000]  I began to study while I was in there.
[09:52.000 --> 09:57.000]  And it motivated me when I got out to not only begin to heal my life,
[09:57.000 --> 10:01.000]  but to learn more so that I could help others that were going through
[10:01.000 --> 10:03.000]  the same thing that I was going through,
[10:03.000 --> 10:07.000]  whether it was addiction or just chronic illness and disease.
[10:07.000 --> 10:12.000]  And I found that there's a certain class of herbs that we call adaptogens,
[10:12.000 --> 10:14.000]  the West and the East, they call them tonic herbs,
[10:14.000 --> 10:20.000]  and they grow in very extreme environments, 14,000 feet, sometimes 40 below,
[10:20.000 --> 10:22.000]  a year-long harsh environment.
[10:22.000 --> 10:25.000]  And what they learn to do is to survive and thrive,
[10:25.000 --> 10:27.000]  and that's the key word, thrive in these environments.
[10:27.000 --> 10:31.000]  And they develop certain phytochemicals that allow them to do that.
[10:31.000 --> 10:34.000]  So when we ingest those phytochemicals, guess what?
[10:34.000 --> 10:39.000]  We not only learn how to survive better, but to thrive better.
[10:39.000 --> 10:43.000]  Now, they were given the name adaptogens by some famous Russian scientists
[10:43.000 --> 10:49.000]  who utilized them for their famous Olympic athletes
[10:49.000 --> 10:53.000]  who were infamous for overtraining and using steroids.
[10:53.000 --> 10:56.000]  So they used these to help them in the recovery process
[10:56.000 --> 11:00.000]  and to adapt to the psychological and physical stress that they were going through,
[11:00.000 --> 11:03.000]  and they worked wonders, hence the name adaptogens.
[11:03.000 --> 11:07.000]  Like I said before, they were called tonic herbs in the East.
[11:07.000 --> 11:13.000]  Now, what makes them really unique more than any other plant or botanical on the planet
[11:13.000 --> 11:19.000]  is that if you have a deficient condition in your body or an excessive condition in your body,
[11:19.000 --> 11:21.000]  an adaptogen will bring you back to homeostasis.
[11:21.000 --> 11:22.000]  That's all it's ever doing.
[11:22.000 --> 11:24.000]  It will never take you out of balance.
[11:24.000 --> 11:30.000]  Now, the key to oxygen and health is how well we adapt or how well we stay in balance.
[11:30.000 --> 11:31.000]  That's the key.
[11:31.000 --> 11:35.000]  Most people are out of balance all the time.
[11:35.000 --> 11:39.000]  Now, they're not out of balance much, because if you were out of balance much, you'd be dead.
[11:39.000 --> 11:42.000]  Your body's fighting all day long to maintain homeostasis.
[11:42.000 --> 11:47.000]  Now, people who have oxygen and health, they use very little life force to maintain homeostasis.
[11:47.000 --> 11:51.000]  People who are usually chronically ill and sick, they're still somewhat in balance,
[11:51.000 --> 11:56.000]  but they're using all their life force and their reserve to maintain that balance.
[11:56.000 --> 12:06.000]  What adaptogens do is they lessen the load that your body has to perform to maintain homeostasis or balance.
[12:06.000 --> 12:09.000]  So we have the widest array of adaptogens here.
[12:09.000 --> 12:12.000]  We also have the highest milligram dose of adaptogens.
[12:12.000 --> 12:15.000]  Also, we use superfoods and hemp protein.
[12:15.000 --> 12:17.000]  The reason why I use hemp protein, hemp seed protein,
[12:17.000 --> 12:21.000]  is because it's one of the most bioavailable food sources on the planet,
[12:21.000 --> 12:23.000]  and it acts as a great delivery system.
[12:23.000 --> 12:27.000]  If we're taking just herbs, the body's not conditioned to taking them all the time.
[12:27.000 --> 12:32.000]  So we lose a lot of the bioavailability, meaning the body doesn't assimilate all of them.
[12:32.000 --> 12:36.000]  So if you put a very bioavailable food source in there with it,
[12:36.000 --> 12:40.000]  it acts as a great carrier, and the body will begin to absorb more of these herbs.
[12:40.000 --> 12:42.000]  So that's why you feel it instantly.
[12:42.000 --> 12:47.000]  In fact, if you go on my Web site, I give a 110 percent guarantee.
[12:47.000 --> 12:51.000]  That means if you don't like this product, if it doesn't do what I say it does,
[12:51.000 --> 12:54.000]  you mail it back, I give you all of your money, and 10 percent I'll give you.
[12:54.000 --> 13:00.000]  No one's ever taken me up on that offer because it does what I say it's going to do.
[13:00.000 --> 13:01.000]  That's fantastic.
[13:01.000 --> 13:04.000]  I've never heard of a 110 percent guarantee,
[13:04.000 --> 13:10.000]  and plus on top of it no one's ever taken you up on it, and I certainly can see why.
[13:10.000 --> 13:13.000]  Well, you know, and also I'm offering tonight, if they go in,
[13:13.000 --> 13:19.000]  when they click on your banner ad on your site, or if they go through to my cart,
[13:19.000 --> 13:25.000]  getchen.com, G-E-T-S-H-E-N dot com, they will see a coupon code there.
[13:25.000 --> 13:28.000]  And if they put in rule of law, they will get 10 percent off.
[13:28.000 --> 13:34.000]  Also, if they go to the Barton Springs Daily Juice, they carry our product.
[13:34.000 --> 13:37.000]  They can also go in there and get 20 percent off and just try it.
[13:37.000 --> 13:41.000]  They will actually take a scoop, and they will put in one of their famous smoothies
[13:41.000 --> 13:43.000]  and mix it up for you, and you can try it,
[13:43.000 --> 13:47.000]  so if you're just a little leery about buying something over the web for the first time,
[13:47.000 --> 13:49.000]  and it will give you 20 percent off in your drink.
[13:49.000 --> 13:52.000]  Okay, my personal favorite drink to mix it in there is Curious George.
[13:52.000 --> 13:56.000]  It's banana and hemp milk, or not hemp milk, but rice milk.
[13:56.000 --> 13:59.000]  My wife, she actually likes the banana nut.
[13:59.000 --> 14:02.000]  It's banana, apple, and peanut butter, and they put a scoop of centrician in it.
[14:02.000 --> 14:07.000]  But it's only in the Barton Springs Daily Juice.
[14:07.000 --> 14:09.000]  Well, that's fantastic.
[14:09.000 --> 14:14.000]  Yeah, and it is carried by certain other stores in Austin.
[14:14.000 --> 14:16.000]  You were mentioning People's Pharmacy also carries it.
[14:16.000 --> 14:20.000]  But folks, we want you to buy it from rule of law radio, okay,
[14:20.000 --> 14:25.000]  so that you can support the network and support this radio show, of course.
[14:25.000 --> 14:26.000]  Sorry about that.
[14:26.000 --> 14:28.000]  No, no, no, absolutely.
[14:28.000 --> 14:33.000]  People should stop by the Barton Springs place and get a smoothie just to try it out.
[14:33.000 --> 14:37.000]  But guaranteed, you're going to love it.
[14:37.000 --> 14:41.000]  And I haven't seen a product that has this many herbs and this kind of blend.
[14:41.000 --> 14:44.000]  I mean, like I said, I've been taking spirulina for years,
[14:44.000 --> 14:49.000]  and some of these other herbs as well, but never all put together in one product like this.
[14:49.000 --> 14:50.000]  So I'm pretty impressed.
[14:50.000 --> 14:56.000]  You know, it took a lot of years, and I was in really, really bad shape when I first started,
[14:56.000 --> 15:00.000]  when I got out of prison and I first started messing around with these herbs.
[15:00.000 --> 15:04.000]  I was boiling them in a pot, on the stove in a pot.
[15:04.000 --> 15:07.000]  And I started out with four of them and just playing with them.
[15:07.000 --> 15:13.000]  And then I just dove into it in college and figured out there was a whole array of these
[15:13.000 --> 15:17.000]  atonic herbs that really were not being utilized that much in nutrition.
[15:17.000 --> 15:22.000]  You know, we're so treatment-based, even in natural medicine, we're treatment-based.
[15:22.000 --> 15:25.000]  People come in through the door and they want the chief complaint fixed.
[15:25.000 --> 15:30.000]  So rather than thinking about wellness and using an herb that you can use in all cases,
[15:30.000 --> 15:35.000]  like adaptogen, we would use specific types of herbs and food stuff
[15:35.000 --> 15:38.000]  to treat that particular patient for whatever their illness is.
[15:38.000 --> 15:42.000]  So even though we think we're practicing wellness or holistic medicine,
[15:42.000 --> 15:47.000]  we're really practicing chief complaint medicine, even in natural medicine.
[15:47.000 --> 15:51.000]  So I tried to get away from that and build the body's reserves up, and that's what I did first.
[15:51.000 --> 15:56.000]  You can't really heal somebody if their body's completely depleted of chi or life force.
[15:56.000 --> 15:58.000]  You need to get that strong first.
[15:58.000 --> 16:04.000]  So that's where this product was really developed on from that premise.
[16:04.000 --> 16:07.000]  That's fantastic.
[16:07.000 --> 16:10.000]  Now one of the things we want to talk about tonight, Stephen,
[16:10.000 --> 16:16.000]  is the legal situation regarding herbs these days.
[16:16.000 --> 16:22.000]  And you were mentioning that Codex Alimentarius was snuck through a few months ago.
[16:22.000 --> 16:27.000]  We're about to go to break here, but when we get back, I would like to get into this
[16:27.000 --> 16:33.000]  and just what is Codex Alimentarius and how is that affecting your business now
[16:33.000 --> 16:36.000]  and what can we do about it?
[16:36.000 --> 16:37.000]  All right.
[16:37.000 --> 16:38.000]  We're going to break right now.
[16:38.000 --> 16:41.000]  We'll be right back with Stephen Rogers from Schentrition.
[16:41.000 --> 16:46.000]  You can find out more about it by clicking the banner on ruleoflawradio.com,
[16:46.000 --> 16:50.000]  the big green banner that says feel more energy and less stress
[16:50.000 --> 16:55.000]  right underneath the schedule and the photos of the other hosts on this network.
[16:55.000 --> 17:12.000]  We will be right back, folks.
[17:25.000 --> 17:52.000]  We'll be right back.
[17:55.000 --> 18:14.000]  After you use Schentrition, you'll believe in supplements again.
[18:14.000 --> 18:29.000]  Thank you.
[18:29.000 --> 18:44.000]  Thank you.
[18:44.000 --> 18:59.000]  Thank you.
[18:59.000 --> 19:14.000]  Thank you.
[19:14.000 --> 19:29.000]  Thank you.
[19:29.000 --> 19:44.000]  Thank you.
[19:44.000 --> 19:59.000]  Thank you.
[19:59.000 --> 20:00.000]  Okay, folks.
[20:00.000 --> 20:05.000]  We are back with our very special guest and newest sponsor, Stephen Rogers of Schentrition.
[20:05.000 --> 20:11.000]  Now, we want to discuss this Codex Alimentarius bill, which has been recently quietly passed
[20:11.000 --> 20:15.000]  into law by Congress by being piggybacked on another bill.
[20:15.000 --> 20:19.000]  Now, Stephen, I haven't studied the final version that was recently passed,
[20:19.000 --> 20:22.000]  but I have been following this for quite a number of years now,
[20:22.000 --> 20:28.000]  and some of the earlier versions of the bill were quite disturbing, to say the least.
[20:28.000 --> 20:33.000]  It would require people to get a doctor's prescription in order to have access to health supplements
[20:33.000 --> 20:37.000]  such as echinacea, colloidal silver, and even vitamin C.
[20:37.000 --> 20:42.000]  And from what I understand, from what I've read, you couldn't purchase any vitamins or herbs at all
[20:42.000 --> 20:45.000]  without a Western doctor's prescription anymore.
[20:45.000 --> 20:51.000]  Now, the holistic health community has been screaming bloody murder about this bill for quite some time now,
[20:51.000 --> 20:54.000]  and yet still it's been passed.
[20:54.000 --> 20:58.000]  So what are the terms of this bill that were actually passed into law,
[20:58.000 --> 21:02.000]  and what does it mean for folks like you and me?
[21:02.000 --> 21:09.000]  Well, what you were speaking of is what everyone's afraid that this bill will turn into.
[21:09.000 --> 21:13.000]  What actually got passed through I've read many times, and I did a show yesterday on it
[21:13.000 --> 21:19.000]  and read the actual bill or part of it that I was concerned about on the show, and it's very ambiguous.
[21:19.000 --> 21:21.000]  It doesn't actually say everything you said.
[21:21.000 --> 21:26.000]  Prior bills that were tried to pass, from my understanding,
[21:26.000 --> 21:31.000]  modeled what is going on in Norway and Germany right now,
[21:31.000 --> 21:33.000]  and that's exactly what you were talking about.
[21:33.000 --> 21:34.000]  Let me give you an example.
[21:34.000 --> 21:38.000]  If you go into, say, a fell food store in Norway,
[21:38.000 --> 21:41.000]  most of all of the products in there have very low milligram dosages,
[21:41.000 --> 21:44.000]  meaning they have no therapeutic or medicinal value.
[21:44.000 --> 21:47.000]  And if you took it for three or four months, you might get some value out of it,
[21:47.000 --> 21:53.000]  or you might just get some, I mean, it has, I guess, fibrin or something like that.
[21:53.000 --> 21:57.000]  But if you wanted to get any kind of herb or like my product or a nutritional product
[21:57.000 --> 22:01.000]  that has a high milligram dosage, meaning it's medicinal quality,
[22:01.000 --> 22:06.000]  you would have to go to a physician that's qualified to give you a prescription for it.
[22:06.000 --> 22:12.000]  So then guess who's controlling the whole process, the pharmaceutical company?
[22:12.000 --> 22:15.000]  Now, what we have been trying, well, I don't want to say we,
[22:15.000 --> 22:20.000]  but certain people in this country have been trying to do is to harmonize our laws
[22:20.000 --> 22:24.000]  with the laws of CODEX or the regulations of CODEX,
[22:24.000 --> 22:28.000]  which are set by the UN, the United Nations.
[22:28.000 --> 22:32.000]  Now, what I read did not say all of that.
[22:32.000 --> 22:35.000]  However, it did leave, and people can go read it.
[22:35.000 --> 22:40.000]  It's up on the, well, you know what, I will send that to you.
[22:40.000 --> 22:42.000]  You can put it up on your website where they can go read it.
[22:42.000 --> 22:49.000]  But in G, if they go down to G and read G, they will see there that it's very ambiguous.
[22:49.000 --> 22:54.000]  Basically, what it's saying is that an appointed official or a group of appointed officials
[22:54.000 --> 23:06.000]  by the president can determine what therapeutic levels of nutritional products
[23:06.000 --> 23:14.000]  and herbs are toxic or nontoxic, which ones are deemed valid or invalid.
[23:14.000 --> 23:18.000]  It doesn't really outline anything, which really scares me.
[23:18.000 --> 23:22.000]  I would rather it just be completely outlined so we know what we're up against.
[23:22.000 --> 23:27.000]  They have really left this thing wide open to be able to do just about anything they want to do.
[23:27.000 --> 23:29.000]  Now, will they do that?
[23:29.000 --> 23:30.000]  I don't know.
[23:30.000 --> 23:31.000]  I hope not.
[23:31.000 --> 23:33.000]  You know, I'm a little more optimistic.
[23:33.000 --> 23:35.000]  But here's the smoking gun.
[23:35.000 --> 23:38.000]  Here's the problem I have with all of this.
[23:38.000 --> 23:43.000]  If it really was benevolent and was for the consumer and to protect the consumer,
[23:43.000 --> 23:49.000]  then why in the world are they still using things like thimerosal, you know, mercury in vaccines?
[23:49.000 --> 23:51.000]  I mean, we know what mercury does.
[23:51.000 --> 23:54.000]  Why don't they already go ahead and regulate that and get that out of there?
[23:54.000 --> 24:00.000]  Why is it that we go, if they want to regulate all food stuff and they want to protect the consumer,
[24:00.000 --> 24:06.000]  why is it that we still eat things that are loaded with GMO or that are genetically modified?
[24:06.000 --> 24:09.000]  Why do we still eat things that are loaded with hydrogenated fats?
[24:09.000 --> 24:10.000]  We know what those do.
[24:10.000 --> 24:11.000]  And what about aspartame?
[24:11.000 --> 24:12.000]  Why is that approved?
[24:12.000 --> 24:13.000]  Why is it?
[24:13.000 --> 24:14.000]  Exactly.
[24:14.000 --> 24:18.000]  So that's the smoking gun to me that makes me say, OK, this is not benevolent.
[24:18.000 --> 24:22.000]  Because sometimes I do, I like to put my head in the sand and pretend that, you know,
[24:22.000 --> 24:25.000]  there's not people out there that really want to control everything like this.
[24:25.000 --> 24:28.000]  But I mean, it's just, it's a little too obvious.
[24:28.000 --> 24:33.000]  So I think what people really need to start doing is writing their congressmen and their senator,
[24:33.000 --> 24:38.000]  because every time that we've done that or called, we've been able to stop this thing in its tracks.
[24:38.000 --> 24:45.000]  And I really don't believe that it's going to end up like in Norway or in Germany,
[24:45.000 --> 24:49.000]  because there's shows like yours, the shows on yesterday and a hundred other shows out there
[24:49.000 --> 24:51.000]  that are talking about this right now.
[24:51.000 --> 24:55.000]  The reason why I'm optimistic is because Canada, and they go to the Canadians,
[24:55.000 --> 24:58.000]  the population up there, they stopped it dead in its tracks.
[24:58.000 --> 25:03.000]  And they're a lot more farther down the line to harmonizing all of their rules
[25:03.000 --> 25:06.000]  and regulations to the UN than we are.
[25:06.000 --> 25:09.000]  Well, Stephen, you touched on an important point here concerning the UN.
[25:09.000 --> 25:17.000]  This Codex Alimentarius Bill is all part of the evil UN Agenda 21 plan for population control
[25:17.000 --> 25:22.000]  and the abolishment of the individual's right to own private property, including our own bodies,
[25:22.000 --> 25:26.000]  and to control what we do and what we don't put into our own bodies.
[25:26.000 --> 25:31.000]  But as a sovereign nation, we have no duty to comply with a UN policy.
[25:31.000 --> 25:37.000]  We have to start looking at the big picture here and rejecting anything that is part of Agenda 21.
[25:37.000 --> 25:40.000]  Now, back to the Codex Alimentarius Bill, just what exactly are the terms?
[25:40.000 --> 25:45.000]  What are they planning to regulate and how, and how will this all be implemented?
[25:45.000 --> 25:50.000]  Well, we don't really know what is passed if you read it.
[25:50.000 --> 25:51.000]  It's very ambiguous.
[25:51.000 --> 25:55.000]  It doesn't say and list there that we're going to control vitamin C.
[25:55.000 --> 25:57.000]  We're going to make all these things hard to get.
[25:57.000 --> 26:01.000]  It really leaves a lot, like I said, it's very ambiguous.
[26:01.000 --> 26:02.000]  Go read it.
[26:02.000 --> 26:03.000]  They pretty much can do anything.
[26:03.000 --> 26:05.000]  It doesn't mean they will do anything.
[26:05.000 --> 26:09.000]  So would the FDA be setting up additional regulations to implement this,
[26:09.000 --> 26:11.000]  and would there be other agencies involved as well?
[26:11.000 --> 26:18.000]  There would be a group, but I'm sure the FDA would be involved with the WTC, the FAO,
[26:18.000 --> 26:26.000]  the federal agricultural, or not federal, but the agricultural organization, and one other body.
[26:26.000 --> 26:30.000]  Well, Codex itself, Codex, there's like four different ones involved in it.
[26:30.000 --> 26:35.000]  And, of course, there would be officials that would be appointed by Obama
[26:35.000 --> 26:39.000]  or whatever president, whoever is in the office at that time.
[26:39.000 --> 26:41.000]  There's another thing that bothers me too.
[26:41.000 --> 26:46.000]  If you go back and you look at Codex and you look at the doctor that actually said,
[26:46.000 --> 26:53.000]  he made the statement that these herbs and nutritional products can be toxins.
[26:53.000 --> 26:56.000]  Well, yes, they can. They can be full of toxins.
[26:56.000 --> 27:00.000]  But he basically just took a brush and said they're all toxins, you know,
[27:00.000 --> 27:02.000]  and they're not good for us.
[27:02.000 --> 27:04.000]  The language is all over the Internet.
[27:04.000 --> 27:05.000]  You can find it.
[27:05.000 --> 27:08.000]  But here's where I have a problem, that this individual,
[27:08.000 --> 27:14.000]  the company that did the testing and came up with this statement,
[27:14.000 --> 27:18.000]  he was actually the executive, one of the executives of the company.
[27:18.000 --> 27:23.000]  In this country, that would be a conflict of interest, as far as I know.
[27:23.000 --> 27:25.000]  And yet, in Europe, they can get away with doing that.
[27:25.000 --> 27:30.000]  And this body being an international body, certainly, you know,
[27:30.000 --> 27:34.000]  we have no way of fighting that at all.
[27:34.000 --> 27:36.000]  So that's where I have another problem too,
[27:36.000 --> 27:39.000]  is that you have an individual that actually has a conflict of interest
[27:39.000 --> 27:42.000]  and is part owner of the company that called them toxins.
[27:42.000 --> 27:44.000]  So these are the things that need to be pointed out,
[27:44.000 --> 27:47.000]  and they need to be brought out more and more to the general public,
[27:47.000 --> 27:50.000]  and there's a whole heck of a lot of people out there buying products right now
[27:50.000 --> 27:53.000]  that aren't thinking like me that their primary source of income
[27:53.000 --> 27:55.000]  comes from a nutritional product.
[27:55.000 --> 27:58.000]  They're just thinking about, okay, each month I buy a $47 product.
[27:58.000 --> 28:01.000]  But it's the people that stand up and complain
[28:01.000 --> 28:03.000]  that we're really going to get this stuff done.
[28:03.000 --> 28:06.000]  It's not me.
[28:06.000 --> 28:12.000]  So, Stephen, do you think that is Congress gearing up to pass any other laws
[28:12.000 --> 28:16.000]  to clarify this, or are they just planning on turning this whole thing over
[28:16.000 --> 28:20.000]  to the FDA to just pass, you know, for the FDA to just enact whatever rules
[28:20.000 --> 28:25.000]  and regulations they want to deal with this law?
[28:25.000 --> 28:27.000]  Well, I have no idea.
[28:27.000 --> 28:29.000]  I don't think anyone really does right now.
[28:29.000 --> 28:32.000]  We're just kind of in the waiting and seeing mode.
[28:32.000 --> 28:33.000]  I mean, it's there.
[28:33.000 --> 28:34.000]  It's been signed.
[28:34.000 --> 28:35.000]  The ink is on it.
[28:35.000 --> 28:38.000]  It went across the President's desk.
[28:38.000 --> 28:40.000]  So we'll just have to wait and see what they're going to do with it.
[28:40.000 --> 28:44.000]  I don't know what any other regulations are going to come more than anybody else.
[28:44.000 --> 28:46.000]  I don't want them to.
[28:46.000 --> 28:48.000]  Like I said before, I'm not optimistic.
[28:48.000 --> 28:50.000]  I just don't think people in this country will stand for it.
[28:50.000 --> 28:53.000]  If it does, if they start to implement it on a mass level,
[28:53.000 --> 28:55.000]  I just can't see it happening.
[28:55.000 --> 28:58.000]  Like I said, if they stopped it in Canada dead in its tracks,
[28:58.000 --> 29:02.000]  they would stop it here.
[29:02.000 --> 29:03.000]  Exactly.
[29:03.000 --> 29:08.000]  So apparently they have not implemented any rules and regulations yet.
[29:08.000 --> 29:12.000]  They're sort of in a waiting stage right now.
[29:12.000 --> 29:16.000]  Right, we just went through three years of a graduated plan on GMP standards.
[29:16.000 --> 29:20.000]  Now GMP standards means good manufacturing practices.
[29:20.000 --> 29:24.000]  And all of the manufacturers now need to be GMP compliant.
[29:24.000 --> 29:25.000]  And it put a lot of people out of business.
[29:25.000 --> 29:28.000]  And there's a lot of people out there still operating that aren't GMP compliant
[29:28.000 --> 29:31.000]  because they didn't have the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars
[29:31.000 --> 29:35.000]  to become GMP compliant.
[29:35.000 --> 29:36.000]  Absolutely.
[29:36.000 --> 29:40.000]  Now when we get back on the other side, I would like to discuss what exactly that means.
[29:40.000 --> 29:41.000]  Okay.
[29:41.000 --> 29:45.000]  Okay, we'll be back in just a moment on the other side of this break
[29:45.000 --> 29:48.000]  with Stephen Rogers from Schentrition.
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[32:11.000 --> 32:16.000]  Okay, folks, we're back with Stephen Rogers from Centrition.
[32:16.000 --> 32:22.000]  And yes, absolutely, as we were discussing on the previous segment,
[32:22.000 --> 32:28.000]  this is not something that is meant for the good of the people
[32:28.000 --> 32:33.000]  because they will not remove things like aspartame from the market.
[32:33.000 --> 32:36.000]  They will not prohibit the use of fluoride in the water.
[32:36.000 --> 32:40.000]  In fact, they want to up the fluoride. They want to put lithium in the water.
[32:40.000 --> 32:42.000]  It just gets worse and worse.
[32:42.000 --> 32:48.000]  On top of it all, now there is something called this Good Manufacturing Practices
[32:48.000 --> 32:50.000]  that they are imposing on folks.
[32:50.000 --> 32:54.000]  So Stephen, tell us a little bit about this GMP.
[32:54.000 --> 33:03.000]  All right, well, Good Manufacturing Practices started around 2007 to 2010 or 2008 to 2010.
[33:03.000 --> 33:05.000]  I think it was a three-year graduation process.
[33:05.000 --> 33:08.000]  I'm not a manufacturer, but I have manufacturers of products.
[33:08.000 --> 33:14.000]  Basically, the smallest companies were hit at the end and the biggest companies were hit in the beginning.
[33:14.000 --> 33:18.000]  And you had to go through – you had to be GMP compliant.
[33:18.000 --> 33:25.000]  Now, I'm going to play the devil's advocate here because I like everything that they wanted them to do.
[33:25.000 --> 33:27.000]  I just don't like the government regulating it.
[33:27.000 --> 33:29.000]  I want people to do it on their own.
[33:29.000 --> 33:32.000]  I want people to have a high level of integrity and say, you know what?
[33:32.000 --> 33:36.000]  I'm going to do all the testing that they require to protect the consumer.
[33:36.000 --> 33:39.000]  Now, I have – I got rid of five of my products.
[33:39.000 --> 33:45.000]  I have just Schentrition now because of the GMP compliancy that came down.
[33:45.000 --> 33:48.000]  And the reason why is just because of liability.
[33:48.000 --> 33:54.000]  My manufacturers didn't go out of business, but now they're not compliant of my other products, not Schentrition.
[33:54.000 --> 34:02.000]  So what happens is the FDA has contracted companies to go out there and they'll go into their facility
[34:02.000 --> 34:05.000]  and if they're not GMP compliant, they'll just find them
[34:05.000 --> 34:08.000]  and they'll just keep finding them and finding them until they find them out of business.
[34:08.000 --> 34:11.000]  Now, most of those people do a really good job.
[34:11.000 --> 34:13.000]  All of my manufacturers did a really good job.
[34:13.000 --> 34:19.000]  They just could – they were mom and pops and they could not afford the tens of thousands of dollars to become compliant.
[34:19.000 --> 34:22.000]  Now, there's a large group of people that think, well, that's –
[34:22.000 --> 34:25.000]  the pharmaceutical companies realize there's a lot of money in this.
[34:25.000 --> 34:29.000]  They couldn't discredit nutrition and nutritional products anymore.
[34:29.000 --> 34:34.000]  So now they'll just buy up all the manufacturing and put out all the other – they'll kill the competition.
[34:34.000 --> 34:36.000]  And that may be true, right?
[34:36.000 --> 34:41.000]  I'm not going to say it is or it isn't, but it may be – it sure looks like it anyway because they did it.
[34:41.000 --> 34:49.000]  But the biggest thing that GMP – that really bothers me about the whole GMP thing,
[34:49.000 --> 34:59.000]  other than putting people out of business and stuff, is it – is my particular manufacturer –
[34:59.000 --> 35:03.000]  and if you'll notice and you go in there and you see who owns these companies now,
[35:03.000 --> 35:08.000]  like one of my companies, I won't say the first name, but they're all ending now with pharmaceutical.
[35:08.000 --> 35:17.000]  And that bothers me because they don't have our best interests in mind when it comes to nutritional products at all.
[35:17.000 --> 35:24.000]  I mean, they don't – when they look at nutritional products, for the most part, they really think they have no therapeutic value.
[35:24.000 --> 35:32.000]  So I really – I have a problem with manufacturers out there that have a conflict of interest that really aren't passionate
[35:32.000 --> 35:35.000]  and believe in these products.
[35:35.000 --> 35:39.000]  So it kind of makes me think – if I'm thinking like a conspiracy theorist out there,
[35:39.000 --> 35:43.000]  it kind of makes me think that this is the calm before the storm.
[35:43.000 --> 35:47.000]  They buy up all the manufacturers or get control of the whole manufacturing process,
[35:47.000 --> 35:50.000]  and then the whole cards come down.
[35:50.000 --> 35:54.000]  Yeah, and then that's when Codex is easy to implement at that point.
[35:54.000 --> 35:57.000]  I mean, when you get control of the whole manufacturing process.
[35:57.000 --> 36:04.000]  So a lot of people don't even know this has went on, the whole GMP manufacturing – with the manufacturing side of it.
[36:04.000 --> 36:12.000]  And again, you want people to not have melamine in the milk coming from – or the dried milk coming from China and stuff like that.
[36:12.000 --> 36:15.000]  You want people to test, and of course some people don't.
[36:15.000 --> 36:16.000]  It slips through.
[36:16.000 --> 36:19.000]  You get a few bad apples, and that's how they implement this regulation.
[36:19.000 --> 36:23.000]  They take that and they put it all over every front page and all over the news.
[36:23.000 --> 36:27.000]  Then everybody gets behind it, yes, we've got to have this regulation, we've got to have this regulation.
[36:27.000 --> 36:32.000]  Instead of just using the free market principles or stop buying the products from those people, put them out of business.
[36:32.000 --> 36:36.000]  That will teach them a lesson, and we get more draconian laws.
[36:36.000 --> 36:43.000]  And that's the thing that scares the heck out of me.
[36:43.000 --> 36:44.000]  Right, absolutely.
[36:44.000 --> 36:50.000]  And you'll find out that when these kind of regulations come in, they use selective enforcement.
[36:50.000 --> 37:01.000]  They won't use it to punish the big guys who put melamine in the dried milk, like you're talking about, in all these giant manufacturing production plants.
[37:01.000 --> 37:13.000]  But if somebody like you or some other herbal blend producer does one little tiny thing wrong, well, then they're going to put you out of business.
[37:13.000 --> 37:15.000]  Oh, yes, most definitely.
[37:15.000 --> 37:22.000]  And again, like I said, I want people to play by the rules and to have a high level of integrity with their products.
[37:22.000 --> 37:26.000]  I mean, if you look at some of the testing they do with GMP, it's really good.
[37:26.000 --> 37:33.000]  I mean, they do all the heavy metal testing, all the toxins, other toxins and bacteria, and they test all of that.
[37:33.000 --> 37:35.000]  I mean, it's really, really stringent.
[37:35.000 --> 37:41.000]  But it put a lot of people out of business because to go through and do all those things and the upgrades that they had to do,
[37:41.000 --> 37:46.000]  most of the mom and pops out there just can't do it, and they're operating outside GMP compliance right now.
[37:46.000 --> 37:54.000]  Yeah, let's not forget the other aspect of that where if you are actually able to produce a good product that outsells the big guys
[37:54.000 --> 37:58.000]  and is safer than the big guys and is better for you than the big guys,
[37:58.000 --> 38:05.000]  then they'll still use the government as a hammer to put you out of business because you're too much competition for the big guys.
[38:05.000 --> 38:07.000]  Well, yeah, there's that too.
[38:07.000 --> 38:08.000]  Definitely.
[38:08.000 --> 38:09.000]  I agree.
[38:09.000 --> 38:12.000]  Well, let's hope gentrification becomes that.
[38:12.000 --> 38:14.000]  Indeed.
[38:14.000 --> 38:20.000]  I mean, basically what we're looking at now is a fascist state.
[38:20.000 --> 38:29.000]  It's a merger of the corporate with the government where basically the government protects the big corporate monopolies and the corporate cartels.
[38:29.000 --> 38:31.000]  It's not socialism.
[38:31.000 --> 38:34.000]  It's not leftism or communism by any means.
[38:34.000 --> 38:39.000]  It's certainly not capitalism.
[38:39.000 --> 38:41.000]  It's certainly very far from the free market.
[38:41.000 --> 38:51.000]  The only thing that it closely resembles is fascism, which is the merger of corporate and state and the government protection of monopolies and cartels.
[38:51.000 --> 38:54.000]  And so that's what happens when all this regulation comes in.
[38:54.000 --> 39:03.000]  It's really just a way to protect the big corporate monopolies and a way to stamp out the competition against them and to control the food supply.
[39:03.000 --> 39:05.000]  And I'm certainly not putting up with it.
[39:05.000 --> 39:08.000]  Anything that I can do to stop it, I'm doing.
[39:08.000 --> 39:13.000]  And one of the things I'm doing is supporting Stephen Rogers with gentrification as a sponsor.
[39:13.000 --> 39:21.000]  And I'm looking forward to participating in your products more in the future, Stephen.
[39:21.000 --> 39:23.000]  Well, thank you very much.
[39:23.000 --> 39:24.000]  Thank you.
[39:24.000 --> 39:36.000]  You know, it's a shame we've moved to the point now in corporatism or, as you say, fascism that we really can't fight them with our spending, our purchasing power anymore
[39:36.000 --> 39:44.000]  because so much of where we spend our product or spend our money has already just been bought up by them and we don't even know it.
[39:44.000 --> 39:47.000]  So a lot of people don't even know their nutritional products.
[39:47.000 --> 39:54.000]  You know, there's a few major manufacturers out there that really, you know, run this whole show.
[39:54.000 --> 40:01.000]  I mean, you may go into one of the stores or there's, you know, 100 different chains out there where you buy it off the shelf.
[40:01.000 --> 40:08.000]  But when it gets down to the manufacturing level, it's far less competitive.
[40:08.000 --> 40:15.000]  So Stephen, have you had any trouble as a result of this GMP or as a result of Codex Alimentarius yet?
[40:15.000 --> 40:18.000]  No, no, I'm compliant with everything.
[40:18.000 --> 40:21.000]  You know, I took care of it.
[40:21.000 --> 40:25.000]  I saw it coming and I said, well, you know, this thing's like a bulldozer and I'm an ant.
[40:25.000 --> 40:31.000]  You know, I better either get out of the way or, you know, I better do what they say do and I do.
[40:31.000 --> 40:32.000]  You know, I love what I do.
[40:32.000 --> 40:33.000]  That's the problem.
[40:33.000 --> 40:36.000]  And they count on all of us called creatives.
[40:36.000 --> 40:37.000]  You know, we love to create.
[40:37.000 --> 40:38.000]  We love to give.
[40:38.000 --> 40:40.000]  We love to do what we do.
[40:40.000 --> 40:42.000]  And we're going to keep doing it.
[40:42.000 --> 40:48.000]  You know, I'm not John Galt and I'm going to stop the motor of the world and move out in the woods somewhere in Colorado.
[40:48.000 --> 40:50.000]  It's just that's not feasible.
[40:50.000 --> 40:51.000]  People aren't going to do that.
[40:51.000 --> 40:54.000]  You know, we have to work.
[40:54.000 --> 40:55.000]  We have to get out and do what we do.
[40:55.000 --> 40:58.000]  You know, and I'm passionate about this so I'm going to do it.
[40:58.000 --> 41:04.000]  So I had to be compliant or get out of the business.
[41:04.000 --> 41:05.000]  Or fight them in court.
[41:05.000 --> 41:07.000]  I mean, fight them in court.
[41:07.000 --> 41:11.000]  And my business doesn't make that kind of money to fight them in court.
[41:11.000 --> 41:14.000]  It's hundreds of thousands of dollars once you get in there for this.
[41:14.000 --> 41:18.000]  So you have to have your SOPs in order, your standard operating procedures.
[41:18.000 --> 41:22.000]  You have to have all that in order because if the FDA or one of their contractors come in,
[41:22.000 --> 41:27.000]  you've got to make sure that you're compliant and you've followed all of their standard operating procedures.
[41:27.000 --> 41:29.000]  And as long as you do that, you're fine.
[41:29.000 --> 41:32.000]  Now, as far as this Codex Alimentarius and what's been split through,
[41:32.000 --> 41:37.000]  none of us really know because it's so ambiguous what's going to happen.
[41:37.000 --> 41:39.000]  We have to wait and see.
[41:39.000 --> 41:42.000]  And then everything could change, you know.
[41:42.000 --> 41:45.000]  It very well might get really bad here.
[41:45.000 --> 41:46.000]  Right.
[41:46.000 --> 41:52.000]  Well, especially because of the ambiguity, that's the part that seems so disturbing more than anything
[41:52.000 --> 41:58.000]  is that they're basically just leaving it open to the FDA to just do whatever they want, it would seem.
[41:58.000 --> 41:59.000]  It would seem.
[41:59.000 --> 42:00.000]  It would seem.
[42:00.000 --> 42:05.000]  You know, I'm hoping there are a little bit, there's some people in there that, you know,
[42:05.000 --> 42:08.000]  kind of think like us and that we'll stop that.
[42:08.000 --> 42:14.000]  You know, I can't imagine that everybody up there, when I say up there, I don't mean like higher,
[42:14.000 --> 42:20.000]  just, you know, the government and people that work in all these agencies, they all think alike.
[42:20.000 --> 42:23.000]  I'm sure there's some free thinkers in there.
[42:23.000 --> 42:24.000]  There has to be.
[42:24.000 --> 42:26.000]  There absolutely has to be.
[42:26.000 --> 42:29.000]  If there are, they certainly won't last long.
[42:29.000 --> 42:33.000]  You know, I was going to say if they are, they hide themselves
[42:33.000 --> 42:41.000]  and they do us favors in ways that are not so noticeable because there definitely are people
[42:41.000 --> 42:44.000]  that are on the inside that help us out.
[42:44.000 --> 42:46.000]  There's just no question about it.
[42:46.000 --> 42:52.000]  I mean, it's in the military, it's in the police departments, and once in a while they'll speak out,
[42:52.000 --> 42:59.000]  but I would say in response to what Randy said, if they speak out, they probably won't last long.
[42:59.000 --> 43:05.000]  But, you know, they pull little tricks and maneuvers on the inside in different ways to help us out
[43:05.000 --> 43:07.000]  without compromising themselves.
[43:07.000 --> 43:09.000]  I know that for sure.
[43:09.000 --> 43:12.000]  Folks, listen, we're coming up on a break.
[43:12.000 --> 43:16.000]  We've got one more segment with Stephen Rogers from Centrition.
[43:16.000 --> 43:22.000]  So if you would like to call in, 512-646-1984 to ask Stephen a question,
[43:22.000 --> 43:27.000]  and we'll be talking about some remedies, some possible remedies to this.
[43:27.000 --> 43:33.000]  Codex Alimentarius situation on the other side when we get back, as well as taking your calls.
[43:33.000 --> 43:35.000]  This is the rule of law.
[43:35.000 --> 44:01.000]  We'll be right back.
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[45:48.000 --> 45:51.000]  Okay, folks, we're back.
[45:51.000 --> 45:55.000]  We've got one more segment with Stephen Rogers from Centrition.
[45:55.000 --> 45:58.000]  We're talking a little bit about the legal situation.
[45:58.000 --> 46:02.000]  Callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984.
[46:02.000 --> 46:10.000]  And Stephen, you wanted to also discuss the fact that there's a whole industry out there of products
[46:10.000 --> 46:17.000]  that basically are synthetic forms of these herbal blends and synthetic forms of herbs.
[46:17.000 --> 46:20.000]  And so can you please extrapolate on that a little bit?
[46:20.000 --> 46:21.000]  What is that all about?
[46:21.000 --> 46:26.000]  Well, let me just, most nutritional products out there when they're sold,
[46:26.000 --> 46:34.000]  whole foods nutritional products, there's not a really big markup because, well, there is.
[46:34.000 --> 46:37.000]  I mean, there's considerable markup, but there's a lot of people that has to,
[46:37.000 --> 46:42.000]  the distributor, the retailer, the wholesaler, there's not much room in this business.
[46:42.000 --> 46:46.000]  That's why you won't see me on a lot of shelves, because it costs a lot to produce my product.
[46:46.000 --> 46:49.000]  And there's no room for a distributor to make any money.
[46:49.000 --> 46:54.000]  So the distributors own pretty much all the shelf space.
[46:54.000 --> 46:55.000]  You go to a distributor.
[46:55.000 --> 46:58.000]  You don't go into, like, Whole Foods and say, I want to put my product on your shelf.
[46:58.000 --> 47:00.000]  You go to UNFI, one of the big distributors.
[47:00.000 --> 47:02.000]  And so there has to be a lot of room.
[47:02.000 --> 47:04.000]  And there just isn't.
[47:04.000 --> 47:10.000]  Most people don't know this, but a pharmaceutical, usually their markup is in the thousands of percent.
[47:10.000 --> 47:13.000]  It can be one, two, three, four thousand percent markup.
[47:13.000 --> 47:21.000]  And pharmaceuticals, for the most part, are synthetic copies of botanical essences, or a lot of them are anyway.
[47:21.000 --> 47:25.000]  So what's happening in our business and has been happening for a long time,
[47:25.000 --> 47:29.000]  you're seeing less Whole Foods products and you're seeing more nutraceuticals,
[47:29.000 --> 47:32.000]  which are synthetic copies of botanical essences.
[47:32.000 --> 47:33.000]  And guess what?
[47:33.000 --> 47:36.000]  The reason why is because there's a lot bigger markup in it.
[47:36.000 --> 47:38.000]  There's a huge markup in it.
[47:38.000 --> 47:45.000]  If people knew what it actually took for them to make a nutraceutical and then resell it when they were making off of it, the markup,
[47:45.000 --> 47:47.000]  they would stop taking it just out of principle.
[47:47.000 --> 47:50.000]  I mean, it's crazy, the markup they're making.
[47:50.000 --> 47:55.000]  So there's been a lot of big grab out here in manufacturing, too, to move towards the nutraceuticals.
[47:55.000 --> 47:58.000]  And, you know, I've never used nutraceuticals in practice.
[47:58.000 --> 48:00.000]  And there are some good nutraceuticals out there.
[48:00.000 --> 48:01.000]  I'm not going to say they're bad.
[48:01.000 --> 48:04.000]  I believe that some pharmaceuticals are very helpful, too.
[48:04.000 --> 48:08.000]  My background is in integrative medicine.
[48:08.000 --> 48:11.000]  It's not, you know, I'm not too far to the right or too far to the left on that.
[48:11.000 --> 48:12.000]  Everything has its place.
[48:12.000 --> 48:22.000]  However, it looks like this, again, is just greed and gobbling up the marketplace out there and, you know,
[48:22.000 --> 48:26.000]  looking for a much bigger percentage by creating nutraceuticals.
[48:26.000 --> 48:32.000]  And so is this causing a lot of competition for the natural botanical extract products?
[48:32.000 --> 48:35.000]  Well, it's pushing out the competition.
[48:35.000 --> 48:40.000]  I mean, I just had a physician the other day in ND to stop using my product because he said,
[48:40.000 --> 48:42.000]  well, look at all the stuff that's in this product.
[48:42.000 --> 48:44.000]  I'm like, you're a natural doc.
[48:44.000 --> 48:45.000]  It's all synthetic.
[48:45.000 --> 48:46.000]  It's all nutraceuticals.
[48:46.000 --> 48:49.000]  And he says, yeah, but look at all of it I get.
[48:49.000 --> 48:51.000]  They can pack in there in one scoop.
[48:51.000 --> 48:54.000]  I'm like, but how much can your body really assimilate of that stuff,
[48:54.000 --> 48:56.000]  and is it natural for your body?
[48:56.000 --> 48:57.000]  Is it good?
[48:57.000 --> 48:58.000]  Is it okay?
[48:58.000 --> 48:59.000]  Maybe.
[48:59.000 --> 49:00.000]  I mean, I don't know.
[49:00.000 --> 49:04.000]  I don't know all the testing on it, but can it actually be better than the real thing
[49:04.000 --> 49:09.000]  that the Creator put here on the planet that our bodies are used to ingesting?
[49:09.000 --> 49:11.000]  I highly doubt it.
[49:11.000 --> 49:14.000]  But it came down to, you know, dollars and cents.
[49:14.000 --> 49:16.000]  You know, at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.
[49:16.000 --> 49:19.000]  It costs him a lot less money to put all of that stuff in that product,
[49:19.000 --> 49:24.000]  and he can make more money by giving it and giving it to his clients.
[49:24.000 --> 49:26.000]  That's too bad.
[49:26.000 --> 49:27.000]  That's too bad.
[49:27.000 --> 49:28.000]  It really is.
[49:28.000 --> 49:33.000]  Well, you know, I think that just on a positive note though,
[49:33.000 --> 49:38.000]  there is a growing community of health-conscious people that are seeing through all this,
[49:38.000 --> 49:45.000]  that are becoming aware because of things like aspartame and fluoride in the water
[49:45.000 --> 49:50.000]  and the samarasol in the vaccines and just some really glaring things out there
[49:50.000 --> 49:56.000]  that it's actually causing a response of people to wake up and say, wait a minute,
[49:56.000 --> 50:00.000]  you know, I need to be paying more attention about what I'm putting into my body here.
[50:00.000 --> 50:05.000]  And so even though you may have this market where you've got these, you know,
[50:05.000 --> 50:10.000]  maybe some masses who are somewhat dumbed down, oh, they're going to take the cheap thing
[50:10.000 --> 50:14.000]  or the doctors are going to, you know, pimp the cheap thing or whatever,
[50:14.000 --> 50:18.000]  you know, there is a growing number of people out there who are highly concerned
[50:18.000 --> 50:25.000]  about putting non-GMO foods into their body, organic foods and organic natural substances.
[50:25.000 --> 50:31.000]  I mean, it just, there's no way that these synthetic products could possibly be better
[50:31.000 --> 50:32.000]  than the real thing.
[50:32.000 --> 50:36.000]  And so I do think that that is encouraging, that there is a growing community there.
[50:36.000 --> 50:42.000]  And we were talking some on the break concerning some possible legal remedies
[50:42.000 --> 50:45.000]  to this Codex Alimentarius nightmare.
[50:45.000 --> 50:51.000]  And unfortunately, since it's so new, there, nothing is in practice yet.
[50:51.000 --> 50:57.000]  The FDA has not implemented any new regulations under this new Codex Alimentarius,
[50:57.000 --> 50:59.000]  so there's really nothing to sue over.
[50:59.000 --> 51:00.000]  No one's been harmed.
[51:00.000 --> 51:03.000]  No one has any standing to really do anything about it yet.
[51:03.000 --> 51:06.000]  So we just have to keep on our guard and keep a watch of, you know,
[51:06.000 --> 51:10.000]  when the other shoe is going to fall, so to speak,
[51:10.000 --> 51:15.000]  when they're going to try to do something about it and, you know, possibly plan ahead.
[51:15.000 --> 51:20.000]  And Eddie and I were discussing last night some possible remedies over this.
[51:20.000 --> 51:25.000]  Is to pressure our state legislatures over this
[51:25.000 --> 51:28.000]  and tell our state legislators we're not going to put up with this
[51:28.000 --> 51:32.000]  and use the nullification movement and the Tenth Amendment movement
[51:32.000 --> 51:37.000]  to get our state legislators to either pass laws or to not implement it.
[51:37.000 --> 51:43.000]  Because a lot of these federal mandates are basically unfunded federal mandates to the states.
[51:43.000 --> 51:48.000]  And if it's a situation where the states can just opt out, that's one thing,
[51:48.000 --> 51:53.000]  or we may build pressure to the legislatures to pass nullification bills against it
[51:53.000 --> 51:57.000]  and stuff like that that, you know, no, we're not going to let you come in
[51:57.000 --> 52:01.000]  and, you know, raid our health food stores over this sort of thing.
[52:01.000 --> 52:05.000]  So there's a number of remedies at hand that can be used
[52:05.000 --> 52:08.000]  depending on what they're going to do in the future.
[52:08.000 --> 52:10.000]  But again, it's just so new.
[52:10.000 --> 52:14.000]  And so just to get back to the product again, folks,
[52:14.000 --> 52:18.000]  this is definitely something that can help relieve the stress.
[52:18.000 --> 52:22.000]  And so, Stephen, would you just go over again about the product
[52:22.000 --> 52:27.000]  and how it was formulated and these herbs?
[52:27.000 --> 52:32.000]  Well, most people, if you ask them, are they under stress, they would say no,
[52:32.000 --> 52:35.000]  because it's really not the kind of thing that you want to admit to
[52:35.000 --> 52:38.000]  because we think it stresses psychological stress.
[52:38.000 --> 52:42.000]  We don't realize that everything, walking, breathing, talking,
[52:42.000 --> 52:45.000]  everything causes stress in one way or another.
[52:45.000 --> 52:49.000]  You know, the AMA had a study that said that the number one cause of all disease
[52:49.000 --> 52:53.000]  or distress or disease in the body is through stress.
[52:53.000 --> 52:57.000]  There's also another study that said 85% of every doctor's visit,
[52:57.000 --> 53:02.000]  and that's an MD, 85% are stress-related or stress-induced.
[53:02.000 --> 53:04.000]  So, I mean, that's huge.
[53:04.000 --> 53:07.000]  So that means that even though we may not be aware of it,
[53:07.000 --> 53:09.000]  that's what's bringing us in there.
[53:09.000 --> 53:14.000]  What pathogens do, along with this combination of superfoods,
[53:14.000 --> 53:19.000]  is they help the body deal with the negative aspects of stress.
[53:19.000 --> 53:21.000]  Again, we don't want stress to go away.
[53:21.000 --> 53:24.000]  We just want to metabolize it as anabolic, as eustress,
[53:24.000 --> 53:27.000]  something that we grow from and get stronger from.
[53:27.000 --> 53:32.000]  But if the body's weak and the body's deficient from chronic stress,
[53:32.000 --> 53:37.000]  then our body will begin to metabolize it as catabolic or as distress,
[53:37.000 --> 53:40.000]  as disease-causing and breaking us down.
[53:40.000 --> 53:44.000]  So that's what this product will do first and foremost,
[53:44.000 --> 53:49.000]  along with strengthening the energy in the body or the vital life force in the body.
[53:49.000 --> 53:52.000]  And I have, you know, Catherine Albrecht, she loves it.
[53:52.000 --> 53:55.000]  She calls it the ultimate wellness supplement.
[53:55.000 --> 53:56.000]  And it is.
[53:56.000 --> 53:57.000]  That's what it is.
[53:57.000 --> 53:58.000]  That's what I take.
[53:58.000 --> 53:59.000]  I don't take anything else.
[53:59.000 --> 54:01.000]  I take the ultimate wellness supplement.
[54:01.000 --> 54:03.000]  A lot of people do take nutraceuticals,
[54:03.000 --> 54:05.000]  and they'll take all of these synthetics and stuff,
[54:05.000 --> 54:07.000]  and say, well, look, this has so much more of this.
[54:07.000 --> 54:08.000]  I'm like, well, that's great.
[54:08.000 --> 54:11.000]  But if your body can't assimilate it, what good is it doing you?
[54:11.000 --> 54:15.000]  At least in my product, you're going to have a higher assimilation rate.
[54:15.000 --> 54:17.000]  I mean, the stuff is bioavailable.
[54:17.000 --> 54:19.000]  When you take it, you're going to feel it.
[54:19.000 --> 54:23.000]  If you can take those nutraceuticals and feel it afterwards, you're fine.
[54:23.000 --> 54:25.000]  But I doubt you can.
[54:25.000 --> 54:26.000]  Exactly.
[54:26.000 --> 54:32.000]  And I think the assimilation is the key here because it's pretty well known.
[54:32.000 --> 54:35.000]  Well, I mean, just like say for multivitamins, for example,
[54:35.000 --> 54:39.000]  I mean, you read the list of all the vitamins in the multivitamin.
[54:39.000 --> 54:42.000]  We've got this really like this one little tiny multivitamin,
[54:42.000 --> 54:45.000]  and it says it has like 100 vitamins in it.
[54:45.000 --> 54:49.000]  It's everything you need, you know, your recommended daily dosage
[54:49.000 --> 54:52.000]  or whatever recommended daily amount, the RDA.
[54:52.000 --> 54:55.000]  And I've got to tell you, well, for one thing, to digress on that,
[54:55.000 --> 55:01.000]  the RDA, the government RDA is not the recommended amount for you to be healthy.
[55:01.000 --> 55:04.000]  Like say, for example, the RDA for vitamin C,
[55:04.000 --> 55:07.000]  that's not the amount of vitamin C that your body really needs to be healthy.
[55:07.000 --> 55:14.000]  That's just barely the amount of vitamin C that you need to not get scurvy.
[55:14.000 --> 55:18.000]  Okay, so I don't really pay much attention to those RDAs anyway,
[55:18.000 --> 55:21.000]  but the point is it's all synthetic materials,
[55:21.000 --> 55:23.000]  and then they compact it in this little pill,
[55:23.000 --> 55:29.000]  and it's been proven that your body just hardly assimilates any of it at all.
[55:29.000 --> 55:34.000]  And so you have to look not just necessarily at, you know, the bang for the buck,
[55:34.000 --> 55:38.000]  so to speak, of how much you're getting, but, you know, the quality.
[55:38.000 --> 55:43.000]  It's about quality, and how is it really going to affect your health,
[55:43.000 --> 55:47.000]  and how is it really going to improve your state of wellness
[55:47.000 --> 55:50.000]  and your state of balance, as you say.
[55:50.000 --> 55:53.000]  Right, and you know, most of our macronutrients and micronutrients
[55:53.000 --> 55:57.000]  we should be getting from a whole food balanced diet.
[55:57.000 --> 56:00.000]  I say it's a supplement, and that's what it is.
[56:00.000 --> 56:04.000]  It's the supplement, you're a really good healthy diet.
[56:04.000 --> 56:07.000]  We should never take these products in place of that.
[56:07.000 --> 56:13.000]  And anyone who's interested, and we do, if they go on our Web site,
[56:13.000 --> 56:17.000]  we offer downloadable DVDs there and CDs,
[56:17.000 --> 56:23.000]  and they can find out how to eat a holistic balanced diet there on our Web site.
[56:23.000 --> 56:25.000]  Yeah, and that's the key.
[56:25.000 --> 56:28.000]  Yeah, I mean, you've got to get it through diet first.
[56:28.000 --> 56:33.000]  Absolutely, and I encourage folks to seek out your local farmer's markets.
[56:33.000 --> 56:37.000]  Where you live, there's a farmer's market every Saturday here in Austin.
[56:37.000 --> 56:40.000]  You know, eat holistic foods.
[56:40.000 --> 56:42.000]  Eat organic foods when you can.
[56:42.000 --> 56:47.000]  Try to avoid processed foods, because you're going to flood your body
[56:47.000 --> 56:51.000]  with bisphenol A and all these horrible chemicals,
[56:51.000 --> 56:56.000]  and it's just going to take that much more of your energy as you're saying,
[56:56.000 --> 57:02.000]  as you were talking about earlier, Stephen, to maintain that homeostasis.
[57:02.000 --> 57:06.000]  Whereas when you have an organic diet and a holistic diet,
[57:06.000 --> 57:09.000]  and a lot of people eat a macrobiotic diet,
[57:09.000 --> 57:13.000]  which means that everything is all pH balanced and stuff like that,
[57:13.000 --> 57:18.000]  then you won't have to use so much of your life energy to maintain that homeostasis.
[57:18.000 --> 57:21.000]  And so then when you take products like centrician,
[57:21.000 --> 57:25.000]  it's just going to bring your overall state of health and wellness to the next level.
[57:25.000 --> 57:29.000]  Definitely, and as you said, life force is really the key.
[57:29.000 --> 57:35.000]  In classical Chinese medicine, the abundant and unimpeded flow of life force
[57:35.000 --> 57:39.000]  is the key to health and all the operating or the optimum functioning
[57:39.000 --> 57:44.000]  of the 11 systems of the body, whether it be the reproductive, cardio.
[57:44.000 --> 57:49.000]  All these systems depend on abundant chi flowing through all the acupuncture
[57:49.000 --> 57:52.000]  meridians and the cells and tissues of the body.
[57:52.000 --> 57:56.000]  And when we're stressed or under chronic stress, it gets depleted.
[57:56.000 --> 57:58.000]  And people say, well, how do I know I'm under stress,
[57:58.000 --> 58:00.000]  or how do I know my chi is depleted?
[58:00.000 --> 58:05.000]  If you drink coffee, you can't get up in the morning, your chi is depleted.
[58:05.000 --> 58:07.000]  It's already depleted.
[58:07.000 --> 58:10.000]  What were you saying that if you drink coffee and you can't get up in the morning?
[58:10.000 --> 58:14.000]  If you drink coffee, if you drink coffee in the morning, that means that your body is depleted
[58:14.000 --> 58:18.000]  and coffee stimulates stress hormones to give you a pep.
[58:18.000 --> 58:20.000]  The body is already in a deficit.
[58:20.000 --> 58:22.000]  Right, exactly.
[58:22.000 --> 58:26.000]  All right, well, listen, Stephen, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
[58:26.000 --> 58:28.000]  We really appreciate it.
[58:28.000 --> 58:30.000]  Thank you very much for having me.
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[58:50.000 --> 58:52.000]  Thank you very much, Stephen.
[58:52.000 --> 58:53.000]  Hey, thank you.
[58:53.000 --> 58:54.000]  I look forward to being on again.
[58:54.000 --> 58:56.000]  Okay, absolutely.
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[01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.000]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.000]  The U.S. Central Command has proposed supplying Yemen
[01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:13.000]  with $1.2 billion in military equipment and training over the next six years,
[01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.000]  a significant escalation in the campaign against terrorism.
[01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.000]  Opponents fear U.S. weapons could be used against political enemies
[01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.000]  of President Ali Abdullah Saleh
[01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:30.000]  and provoke a backlash that could further destabilize the volatile impoverished country.
[01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:36.000]  Venezuelan author Eva Gohlinger claims the U.S. Agency of International Development
[01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:40.000]  is part of a U.S. counterinsurgency campaign,
[01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:43.000]  saying documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act
[01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:49.000]  reveal the sole intention of setting up the USAID office in Venezuela
[01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:56.000]  was to aid opposition forces in ousting President Hilo Chavez from power.
[01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:00.000]  Louisiana state officials say there's not enough money left to complete construction
[01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.000]  of the New Orleans levy system.
[01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:06.000]  Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority Chairman Garrett Graves
[01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:11.000]  said Wednesday the Army Corps of Engineers will be short $1 billion.
[01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:15.000]  The state has also yet to be reimbursed by BP
[01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:22.000]  for the six miles of sand berms built to block oil from spoiling Gulf wetlands.
[01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:26.000]  Top Afghanistan commander General David Petraeus said
[01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:30.000]  night raids by U.S. special forces from May through July
[01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.000]  killed or captured 365 insurgent leaders
[01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:39.000]  and killed 1,031 Taliban rank-and-file fighters.
[01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:43.000]  Those figures were widely reported as highlighting the successes
[01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.000]  of special forces raids against the Taliban.
[01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.000]  But the stepped-up night raids in Kandahar province
[01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:54.000]  were matched by a sharp fall-off in the number of roadside bombs
[01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.000]  turned in by the local population, indicating the raids had backfired badly.
[01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:04.000]  Night raids, which are viewed as a violation of the sanctity of the home
[01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.000]  and generate large numbers of civilian casualties,
[01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:13.000]  are the single biggest factor in generating popular anger at U.S. and NATO forces.
[01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:19.000]  Khalil al-Tafakshi, head of the maps and colonies department in East Jerusalem,
[01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:24.000]  says Israelis never actually cease construction on the West Bank or in East Jerusalem
[01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.000]  and the number of home units in these areas has grown dramatically
[01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.000]  during the so-called moratorium.
[01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.000]  Al-Tafakshi says the population of the Jewish West Bank colonies
[01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.000]  was less than 300,000 people the day the moratorium was imposed
[01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.000]  and now the number has risen to 320,000.
[01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:46.000]  The Israeli population of occupied East Jerusalem was 193,000
[01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:51.000]  the day the moratorium was imposed and today the number exceeds 200,000.
[01:02:51.000 --> 01:03:17.000]  Al-Tafakshi said there was no mechanism to monitor construction in the colonies.
[01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:21.000]  Yes!
[01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:26.000]  They want to chop down Babylon and burn down the whole nation
[01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.000]  but they don't want to make the land run.
[01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000]  How much for the republicans and the ospreys, man?
[01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.000]  Tell them I'm in the back area.
[01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.000]  They say we're going to lose, but we're going to win.
[01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.000]  Come on!
[01:03:37.000 --> 01:04:00.000]  Alright, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.000]  Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens.
[01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.000]  Okay, we're going to go ahead and open up the phone lines for those of you
[01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:11.000]  that have any questions, call-ins, comments or anything like that
[01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:14.000]  that you may want to have done, please get ready to do that.
[01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.000]  And while we're waiting on the phone bridge to get some folks on it,
[01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:21.000]  there is a piece of legislation that I've been working on this week
[01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.000]  that I want to give a basic introduction to.
[01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:28.000]  And the name of this act is going to be called
[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.000]  the Judicially Usurped Standards of Total Immunity Challenge and Eradication Act,
[01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.000]  known as the Justice Act.
[01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:41.000]  The purpose of this act is to redefine government immunity.
[01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.000]  No more government immunity granted by government employees
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.000]  and government courts to protect them in their actions.
[01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:51.000]  The purpose of this act is to specifically outline the situations
[01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:55.000]  under which immunity exists and when it does not.
[01:04:55.000 --> 01:05:02.000]  And the penalties for any government official for violations of any of the laws
[01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:09.000]  and the rules they're supposed to be abiding by in the name of their job.
[01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:14.000]  One of the basic things this act defines is that no public servant is authorized
[01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:20.000]  to violate the law in order to enforce the law.
[01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:25.000]  So when it gets down into the nitty-gritty details, this is going to take away
[01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  a lot of their ability to pursue acts of entrapment,
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:38.000]  to arrest without warrant in cases other than felonies and breach of the peace.
[01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:43.000]  It's going to take away their ability to basically do anything
[01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:51.000]  that the constitutions respectively or the laws that are in compliance with the constitutions respectively
[01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:57.000]  do not specifically authorize.
[01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:01.000]  Right now, I hopefully have it pretty comprehensive.
[01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:07.000]  Now that I've got the outline of it done the way that I want it, it's going to go through,
[01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:14.000]  and I'm going to try to make it more brief but still very direct in what it says
[01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:17.000]  so that it's not subject to bad interpretation.
[01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:24.000]  Now one of the things that people would find interesting in this is that this particular act
[01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  contains a specific definition of what constitutes a crime.
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:36.000]  Another thing that this contains is a specific definition of person.
[01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:43.000]  And it stipulates that, and this is a chapter that's to be added to the Texas Government Code.
[01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:47.000]  Currently there is no Chapter 2 in the Texas Government Code.
[01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.000]  It goes from 1 to 21.
[01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.000]  There's nothing in between.
[01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:56.000]  And if there is, it's certainly not printed on the government website.
[01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:02.000]  So if there isn't an actual Chapter 2 that we have in existence anywhere,
[01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:07.000]  then this is going to be enacted as a new Chapter 2 to the Government Code.
[01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:17.000]  And it will supersede certain portions of the Code Construction Act the way that I've got it written.
[01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:22.000]  So this should be interesting for you.
[01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:27.000]  Let's take a look at what a public servant is in this thing.
[01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  A public servant shall mean a person elected, selected, appointed, employed,
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:36.000]  or otherwise designated as one of the following,
[01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:41.000]  even if he has not yet qualified for office or assumed the duties thereof,
[01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:49.000]  an officer, employee, or agent of government, or a juror or grand juror,
[01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:57.000]  or an arbitrator, referee, or other person who is authorized by law
[01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:02.000]  or private written agreement to hear or determine a cause or controversy,
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:09.000]  or an attorney at law, or a notary public when participating in the performance
[01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:15.000]  of a governmental function, or a candidate for nomination or election to public office,
[01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:20.000]  or a person who is performing a governmental function under a claim of right,
[01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:23.000]  although he is not legally qualified to do so,
[01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:29.000]  or a person who is the officer of any publicly traded legal entity
[01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:36.000]  and who performs any act in an official capacity within the territorial boundaries of Texas.
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  Now, the attorney at law and the person who is an officer of a publicly traded corporation
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:48.000]  are my additions to the penal code's definition of public servant.
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:49.000]  Okay?
[01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.000]  Everything else is what's already in the penal code.
[01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.000]  I just added those two.
[01:08:53.000 --> 01:09:00.000]  And since a publicly traded corporation owes a duty to the public in what it does,
[01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:05.000]  then the officers of that corporation, even though it's privately owned,
[01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.000]  are to be acting in the public interest.
[01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.000]  They're not allowed to defraud the public.
[01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:12.000]  They're not allowed to mislead the public.
[01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:19.000]  They're not allowed to violate the laws any more than any other public servant would be.
[01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  So in a publicly traded corporation, the officers are public servants.
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:29.000]  This should do away with a lot of those things like Enron and World Net
[01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:32.000]  and all those other, or WorldCom, sorry,
[01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:37.000]  that stole all the money from the people through investments and such.
[01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:41.000]  This would land them directly, squarely under the same penalties
[01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  as other government officials for violations of the laws in the Constitution.
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:53.000]  Now, since every attorney with a bar card is a judicial officer
[01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:57.000]  under the judicial branch of government according to the Texas Constitution,
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:01.000]  it's only fair that they be named as a public servant as well.
[01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:07.000]  That once again will also bring to light the illegality of the bar here in Texas.
[01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  And I'm working on another piece of legislation to do away with the bar.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:21.000]  Now, the definition of a private capacity and official capacity I've also defined in this,
[01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.000]  and you'll find this kind of interesting.
[01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:31.000]  Official capacity shall mean acting as a person on behalf of a legal entity,
[01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.000]  but the term shall expressly exclude from its interpretation
[01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  and use the terms man or men acting in a private capacity.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.000]  Now, let's look at what private capacity is.
[01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:49.000]  Private capacity shall mean one or more men acting on or in their own behalf or interest
[01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:55.000]  and not in an official capacity pursuant the Ninth Article of Amendment of the Constitution
[01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:58.000]  for the United States of America.
[01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:00.000]  Okay?
[01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:05.000]  So those are the different types of things I'm going at in this particular thing here.
[01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:10.000]  I am basically re-declaring the people's right to the common law
[01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.000]  to hold their public servants accountable,
[01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:17.000]  that the public servants may not give immunity to themselves
[01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  because the people did not grant them immunity for anything.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:29.000]  All this argument the courts have basically cooked up regarding the 11th Amendment is baloney.
[01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:34.000]  Nowhere in the 11th Amendment does the word give immunity to public servants.
[01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:37.000]  That does not appear in the 11th Amendment.
[01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:45.000]  It's inferred to one degree only that the public servant is immune or the state itself,
[01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:54.000]  not the public servant, but the state itself as a political body is immune from suit from any other state,
[01:11:54.000 --> 01:12:03.000]  the citizens of any other state or the federal government or any foreign nation.
[01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:10.000]  The state is not immune, nor are the public servants of the state immune,
[01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:15.000]  from actions brought by the people of that state.
[01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.000]  That is not spoken of anywhere.
[01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  So Eddie, you bring up a good point.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:25.000]  If the states are immune from lawsuit from other states or from the federal government,
[01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:29.000]  then what's up with the federal government suing Arizona?
[01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.000]  They shouldn't even be able to do that.
[01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:33.000]  They didn't sue Arizona.
[01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:39.000]  They sued specific officers of Arizona, which essentially is the same thing
[01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:47.000]  because the federal government can't sue any of the political offices of the states.
[01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:58.000]  That's forbidden in the federal Constitution under the 11th Amendment.
[01:12:58.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  All right.
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:05.000]  We've got some callers on the line, but before we go to the callers, Randy, you got any comments on this?
[01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:13.000]  One point, when you were talking about corporate officers,
[01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  since we're being forced into a fascist state where the large corporations essentially run the government,
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:30.000]  it seems most appropriate that they should be thrown in the trough for the rest of the scoundrels.
[01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.000]  Well, that thought occurred to me as well.
[01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:38.000]  But I just figured that the best argument that I could make was that when they are publicly traded,
[01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:44.000]  they owe a duty to the public, just like any public servant does.
[01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:52.000]  And because they're under the control of the government of the state as a corporation created by the laws,
[01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  then they have to abide by them just as much as anyone else does.
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:00.000]  And the fact that they use them to violate the Constitution or the rights of the people
[01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:06.000]  should make them just as accountable as we should be able to hold the public servants to.
[01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:13.000]  That's my opinion, but I honestly believe that's the way we ought to be able to do it.
[01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  No more hiding behind the corporate veil.
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:18.000]  There's no immunity for public servants.
[01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:22.000]  There is no immunity for corporate officers.
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:28.000]  There is no immunity just because you're hiding behind a corporate veil.
[01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:37.000]  Your actions are just as punishable no matter where you sit.
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  I don't think there is an immunity for corporate officers other than what they pay for.
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:48.000]  Well, it shields their assets and them from direct liability.
[01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.000]  That's what the corporate veil does.
[01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:51.000]  That's all it does.
[01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:55.000]  You can sue the corporation, but you can't sue the individual behind it
[01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  without direct evidence that they did something involved in it.
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:05.000]  But the fact of the matter is, how does a corporation function to do what it does,
[01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:12.000]  legal or illegal, without the knowledge, consent, and manipulation of its officers?
[01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:19.000]  It's idiotic to argue that a corporation can do anything on its own.
[01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:25.000]  It can only do what the people that work in it and control it do.
[01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:30.000]  So responde superior should always go to the top.
[01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:31.000]  Exactly.
[01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.000]  It goes to the law of crudulence.
[01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:37.000]  Crud always sinks to the top.
[01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:41.000]  Yeah, and also it goes to the law of gun no kill, man kills.
[01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:43.000]  I mean, you can't blame the gun.
[01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.000]  It's the man that pulled the trigger.
[01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:50.000]  The corporation can't do anything without the officers making the decisions.
[01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  I mean, it's a fictitious entity.
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:56.000]  Exactly.
[01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:01.000]  So just like anyone else, their asset should be able to be forfeited.
[01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:04.000]  Their person should be able to be arrested.
[01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:08.000]  They should be able to be charged with any criminal act just as anyone else did
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:14.000]  because it's impossible for the corporation to do it.
[01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:19.000]  Well, I don't know about their personal assets, but certainly criminally charged, yes.
[01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:20.000]  Well, but think about it, Debra.
[01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:26.000]  Now, if you told, let's say, for instance, you work for a large chemical corporation,
[01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  very dangerous, highly hazardous chemicals, and you have a fleet of tanker trucks
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:35.000]  that are supposed to haul this material around.
[01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.000]  Well, I'll pick this up on the other side.
[01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  I hear the great music.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:41.000]  So folks, if you all hang in there, we'll pick this up on the other side,
[01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:43.000]  and then we'll start getting into your phone calls.
[01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.000]  This is rule of all radio.
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:47.000]  We got Paul from Mississippi.
[01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  Mike from Texas just called in.
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  Looks like he dropped off the line.
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.000]  So please call back in, Mike and Jeff.
[01:16:53.000 --> 01:17:03.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:29.000]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:30.000]  We are back.
[01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:33.000]  Okay, just to pick this up real quick and get it out of the way
[01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:35.000]  so we can get to the callers.
[01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:38.000]  Say, for instance, you have a big chemical corporation.
[01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:41.000]  You have a fleet of trucks, and these trucks haul these dangerous,
[01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:46.000]  highly dangerous toxic chemicals all over the place for your company.
[01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:52.000]  And you as one of the officers of this corporation knows that in order to save money,
[01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:57.000]  you've ordered that maintenance on these trucks be cut down to the bare minimum
[01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:00.000]  to the point where the trucks are actually unsafe.
[01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:02.000]  And you're fully aware of this.
[01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:08.000]  And this vehicle goes out and has an accident or causes an accident or breaks down in such a way
[01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:12.000]  as these chemicals are released into the public and cause a harm.
[01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:19.000]  Why should the stockholders of the corporation be made liable for this particular officer's choice
[01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:25.000]  to save money by cutting back on the maintenance that he was responsible for having done?
[01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:26.000]  You see what I'm saying?
[01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.000]  You're punishing everybody that invested in the corporation
[01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:34.000]  instead of the guy that made the choice and the decision to put the corporation at risk.
[01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:35.000]  Right.
[01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:38.000]  Well, and also, you know, the reason I was starting to balk
[01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:42.000]  is because I was considering other entities like trusts where, you know,
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:47.000]  we have to be careful what we wish for because if we remove the veil in every situation,
[01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.000]  then that means we can't set up entities to protect ourselves either.
[01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:56.000]  And like in the situation with trusts, the trustees are not personally liable for the decisions
[01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.000]  that they make as officers of the trust.
[01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:03.000]  But, you know, as we were discussing this on the break, you said that that's a different animal
[01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:07.000]  because trusts are generally not incorporated entities.
[01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:11.000]  They're not publicly traded corporate entities that are incorporated.
[01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.000]  They don't have a public interface.
[01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:17.000]  A trust is almost always set up for a private interest,
[01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  and really the only thing it does is manage funds and assets.
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:22.000]  It doesn't conduct a business.
[01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.000]  Right, right.
[01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.000]  And it most assuredly does not conduct a business for profit.
[01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:30.000]  Right.
[01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.000]  It may earn interest on investments and things like that,
[01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:35.000]  but again, that's the investment side.
[01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  It's not the controlling side.
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:37.000]  Right.
[01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:41.000]  So that would, to me, would be the major difference between them.
[01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:42.000]  Okay.
[01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:43.000]  All right.
[01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:47.000]  Well, y'all ready to start taking the calls?
[01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:48.000]  I'm game.
[01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:49.000]  Here we go.
[01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:52.000]  We're going to first time caller Paul in Mississippi.
[01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:55.000]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:56.000]  Thank you, Debra.
[01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:00.000]  I have a chicken dance story for Randy.
[01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:05.000]  Just a brief history on what's going on here.
[01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:11.000]  A friend of mine was ticketed three and a half years ago for illegal hunting
[01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:15.000]  and hunting after hours.
[01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:22.000]  His addiction was challenged with a bill of particulars, but the judge found him
[01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:29.000]  guilty anyway and fined him, I think, $3,500 and gave him 30 days to appeal.
[01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:36.000]  And fast forward to today, wondering if there was a warrant out for his arrest.
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.000]  He never paid the fine.
[01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:47.000]  I went to the Justice Court clerk today, this morning, and requested the court
[01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  documents, the file, and my request was denied.
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:22:01.000]  Well, at that point, the facility there, it was a brand new facility.
[01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  The sheriff's office shares one end of the building.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:12.000]  The other end is the Justice Court office, and out back is a 40-acre prison.
[01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:18.000]  They've got the express lane set up to arrest, convict, and imprison everybody
[01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.000]  in Lafour County, Mississippi.
[01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:28.000]  So when the court refused to let me see the court files, I went and got a
[01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:32.000]  deputy and said, arrest her.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:37.000]  Well, this deputy, I guess he was kind of down on the totem pole.
[01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:38.000]  He escorted me.
[01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  He said, come on, follow me.
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  He took me down the hall, down another hall to the, I've never heard this one
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:49.000]  before, to the undersheriff, and I introduced myself to the undersheriff and
[01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  told him that I just witnessed a crime and said, go arrest her.
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.000]  And well, he started quizzing me.
[01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:57.000]  Who are you?
[01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  Well, I had already introduced myself.
[01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.000]  Where are you from?
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:08.000]  Well, sir, with all due respect, I don't think that has any bearing on what's
[01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:09.000]  happening here.
[01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.000]  What kind of work do you do?
[01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.000]  Well, sir, the kind of work I do isn't important here.
[01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:15.000]  I just witnessed a crime.
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.000]  Go arrest her.
[01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  Well, he mumbled something about the Attorney General, and then I said, well,
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:29.000]  I just called 911 to have this documented, and they have signs all over
[01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:31.000]  the front of the entrance there.
[01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:32.000]  It says no cell phones.
[01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:35.000]  I guess it probably rang.
[01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.000]  I'm not sure if it rang or not.
[01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:42.000]  But he said, take your phone call outside and, Deputy, escort him to the door.
[01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:50.000]  And I'll pause there for Randy, if you have any words of wisdom.
[01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:54.000]  Well, it sounds like obstruction of justice on their part.
[01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.000]  Sounds like interfering with a 911 call too.
[01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:00.000]  Big time.
[01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:02.000]  So file on them.
[01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:11.000]  It's better if you file against the one who protected the one who did it,
[01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:16.000]  because you bet.
[01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:20.000]  Then you go to the district attorney, the prosecutor attorney, and you file
[01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:25.000]  against the officer with the prosecutor attorney, depending on what your
[01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:31.000]  statutes are, shielding from prosecution, obstruction of justice, tampering
[01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  with a witness.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.000]  They force you to leave in Texas.
[01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:38.000]  There's a statute.
[01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:43.000]  I once had a judge run into the district court while I was talking to the
[01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:48.000]  bailiff, tell me to point his finger at me and said, Mr. Kelton, you're
[01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:49.000]  creating a disturbance.
[01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:53.000]  You get out of this courthouse or I'll have you arrested.
[01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  Well, he didn't know that I was talking to the bailiff because the high
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  sheriff of the county sent me to the bailiff to make a complaint against the
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:01.000]  district attorney.
[01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  Well, in Texas there is a statute that says that if you threaten someone for
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:13.000]  the purpose of denying them access to a public building or for the purpose of
[01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  interrupting their access to a public building, that's a terroristic threat.
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.000]  And I filed that with the attorney general here in Texas, and that was a
[01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.000]  hoot.
[01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:31.000]  This is the first time that I've tried something like this today, and yeah,
[01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:32.000]  it was a hoot.
[01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.000]  It was an adrenaline rush, and afterwards I really couldn't believe that I'd
[01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:38.000]  done it.
[01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  A couple questions here.
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:46.000]  The bill of particulars that was filed and an attempt was made to stand and
[01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:51.000]  have them prove jurisdiction, well, they just railroaded this guy after the
[01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:52.000]  bill of particulars.
[01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:56.000]  Do you have any thoughts on...
[01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.000]  Here's what we did.
[01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:03.000]  Here's my position on subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:08.000]  If the court didn't have subject matter jurisdiction, then it wasn't the
[01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:11.000]  court.
[01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:16.000]  Okay, if I go down to the uniform store and I rent myself a uniform and get me
[01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:21.000]  a shiny little badge and a bubblegum machine, put it on my car and pull you
[01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:26.000]  over, are you going to want to challenge my jurisdiction?
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:28.000]  Why, yes, sir.
[01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:33.000]  Or are you going to want me thrown in jail?
[01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:36.000]  This judge is impersonating a public official.
[01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:39.000]  If he doesn't have subject matter jurisdiction, then that's the point that
[01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:40.000]  should be brought to the judge.
[01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:46.000]  This thing about civil immunity, if you don't have subject matter
[01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:50.000]  jurisdiction, you don't have any immunity of any kind.
[01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.000]  All you have is theater.
[01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:54.000]  Exactly.
[01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:58.000]  And bad theater because it's going to come back to haunt you.
[01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:03.000]  The rest of the people in the courtroom, they think he got convicted.
[01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:07.000]  They think he got fined.
[01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.000]  But he's never paid the fine.
[01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.000]  We don't know if there's a warrant or not.
[01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:13.000]  They won't let us see the court file.
[01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.000]  Well, he ought to be filing criminal charges against the judge for acting
[01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:18.000]  without subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:19.000]  Wait a minute.
[01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.000]  They won't let you see the court file.
[01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.000]  Who is they?
[01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:27.000]  The justice court clerk that I went to see this morning.
[01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:31.000]  I've had this before and I've done what you've done.
[01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:35.000]  That is a serious crime because court records are public.
[01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.000]  She asked me, was I an attorney?
[01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.000]  You don't have to be an attorney to look at a court record.
[01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:42.000]  They're public records.
[01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:46.000]  That's a big violation on her part.
[01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:51.000]  Well, what works well is now you open the door.
[01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:54.000]  Yeah, next time you go in there to try to get court records,
[01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:58.000]  bring yourself a recorder so that you can get it on video,
[01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.000]  like one of those little pens, you know, dig a pens or something.
[01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:05.000]  Or if you don't have one, a pocket MP3 recorder or something,
[01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:10.000]  you need to get it recorded, the court clerk denying you access to the record.
[01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:13.000]  Just tell them, I don't hear well.
[01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:16.000]  Will you look and speak clearly into my pen?
[01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:19.000]  Yeah, well, you may not want to do that because then it's real obvious.
[01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:27.000]  But, you know, just to have it with you is enough so that you can get the evidence.
[01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:29.000]  Let me address how to deal with this.
[01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:32.000]  They gave you a present.
[01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  And let me preface this with,
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:38.000]  it's not about causing anybody to lose their job.
[01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:42.000]  It's not about getting anybody indicted.
[01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:44.000]  The law is not about that.
[01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:46.000]  It's not about punishment.
[01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.000]  It's about deterrence.
[01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:53.000]  And the likelihood of you getting the clerk or any of these officers indicted
[01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:55.000]  is somewhere between little and none.
[01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:59.000]  Right, well, it's about indictment for Eddie and me, that's for sure.
[01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:00.000]  Well, but it's about...
[01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  Because that's what the deterrence is.
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  Samples out of somebody so that it will deter the behavior of others.
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:11.000]  No one's ever going to get deterred if somebody doesn't go down at least once.
[01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:12.000]  Actually, they will.
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:13.000]  We'll see.
[01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:15.000]  It would be okay if they got indicted.
[01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:16.000]  We'll see.
[01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:20.000]  But when you go down to the prosecuting attorney
[01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:24.000]  and hand the prosecuting attorney a verified criminal affidavit
[01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:29.000]  accusing the officer who forced you to leave that building
[01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:33.000]  of obstruction of justice and shielding from prosecution
[01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:37.000]  and the prosecutor refuses to act,
[01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:41.000]  then you go to the grand jury with charges against the prosecutor.
[01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  That's when it gets interesting.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.000]  Okay, Paul, do you have anything else?
[01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.000]  No, that's good.
[01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  I may call back tomorrow night.
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:51.000]  All right.
[01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:52.000]  All right, thanks.
[01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:53.000]  Thanks, Paul.
[01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.000]  Okay, when we get back, we're going to go to Stephen,
[01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:57.000]  and then we've got Carlos.
[01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:03.000]  We'll be back on the other side of the break.
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[01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.000]  contain high fructose corn syrup.
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[01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.000]  you put your body at risk for disease.
[01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:31.000]  We're talking high blood pressure, obesity, especially in children,
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[01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  Okay, we're going now to Stephen in Montana.
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.000]  Stephen, thanks for calling in.
[01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:14.000]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:15.000]  Hi, guys.
[01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.000]  I really don't know where to start.
[01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:21.000]  I got so much going on.
[01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:25.000]  I want to figure out some causes of action I might have.
[01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:28.000]  So first, before that, I have a real quick question
[01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:34.000]  on a motion to continuance that I filed a while back
[01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:38.000]  waiting on an order of writ of provision from the Supreme Court.
[01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:46.000]  In my motion for continuance, I said that I would waive my speedy trial rights
[01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:51.000]  until matters from the Supreme Court were heard.
[01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:57.000]  And then I said I would not waive them for one day more or one day less.
[01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:07.000]  And that's been about three months ago that I've heard back from the Supreme Court.
[01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:10.000]  But I forgot to put it in my word for clause.
[01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:11.000]  I mean, does that make a difference?
[01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:18.000]  If I waive a speedy trial right, do I make stipulations like that to it?
[01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:22.000]  Sure you can.
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  In making the plea to the court, you don't have to waive your speedy trial right at all.
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:35.000]  But that's the delay you caused.
[01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:43.000]  You filed the motion for the writ, and that caused the delay.
[01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  So that's attributed to you.
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:51.000]  Part of the time doesn't come out of the tolling of the limitations.
[01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:56.000]  So it wasn't necessary for you to waive anything or not waive anything.
[01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:02.000]  But as far as I know, you can put the stipulation anywhere you want to in it.
[01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:03.000]  Okay.
[01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:05.000]  Well, my motion was granted.
[01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  The thing of it is the motion was granted, so I didn't go to trial.
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:19.000]  I put the motion in right before the time, like 10 days before trial, which was the last time I could.
[01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:23.000]  And because we were waiting on a writ of prohibition from the Supreme Court.
[01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:31.000]  And let's see here.
[01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:35.000]  And then so she granted the motion to continuance.
[01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.000]  And then we heard back from the Supreme Court like two months later.
[01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:45.000]  So that was that, and I only had like 15 days until my speedy trial was up.
[01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.000]  And so she granted my continuance.
[01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:52.000]  We heard back from the Supreme Court, and now it's been like three months.
[01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  And I did get a public spreader, and he says, well, once I waived my rights, then I waive it forever.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:59.000]  And I'm like, no, I didn't think that was right.
[01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:02.000]  But I didn't want him to make that sure.
[01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:06.000]  No, you had the stipulation in there.
[01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  Absolutely, you don't waive it forever.
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:14.000]  Does it matter that I didn't put it in the wherefore clause?
[01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:15.000]  No.
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  I don't know.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:17.000]  Okay.
[01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:21.000]  That's a good question.
[01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:29.000]  I'm not an attorney, so I'm not that schooled in these minor specifics.
[01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  So that is a good question.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  I would say it's not.
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:43.000]  It's all in the motion and continuance, and it's all, I just said, just specifically stated,
[01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:48.000]  I would waive my speedy trial rights, that accused will waive his speedy trial rights
[01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:52.000]  until the matters are heard from the Supreme Court to be attributable to the accused,
[01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  not one day more or one day less than the fairness and the interest of justice.
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:02.000]  And that was in one of the paragraphs above, but I didn't put that in the wherefore clause.
[01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.000]  What did you put in the wherefore clause?
[01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:08.000]  Wherefore accused, respectfully petitioned, this court is granted continuance
[01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:11.000]  until matters are heard from the Supreme Court, attributable to the accused,
[01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:17.000]  and giving it time for accused to go over his defense with counsel.
[01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:19.000]  Okay.
[01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:21.000]  I wouldn't think so.
[01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  I mean, the thing about motions is there's not some magic formula.
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:37.000]  A motion is really a letter to the judge, but generally you have to tell the judge what you want,
[01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:45.000]  give him the law that authorizes him to do what you want, and then ask him for what you want.
[01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:53.000]  So there's not some magic formula, and essentially a motion is kind of like a contract with the court.
[01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:59.000]  You ask the judge to do this thing under these circumstances,
[01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:02.000]  and if they accepted it, they accepted it under those circumstances.
[01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:05.000]  It's like a contract.
[01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:06.000]  Okay.
[01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:11.000]  Well, she granted it anyways, and this is also another funny thing she granted,
[01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:23.000]  because in there I put nine things that I was due process rights.
[01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:27.000]  I put that I should be able to have my continuous granted
[01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:30.000]  because I've been denied a judicial determination of this,
[01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:35.000]  denied a proof of jurisdiction on the record, denied a determination on the court,
[01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:39.000]  on the record of the notice and demand, denied the right to know the nature and cause,
[01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:47.000]  denied all discovery rights, denied the court recorder, denied the proof to show authority,
[01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:52.000]  and I put all these situations that I've been denied, and then she goes ahead and grants my petition.
[01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:59.000]  Does she think she is admitting to all that?
[01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:03.000]  She granted your petition.
[01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:04.000]  Yeah.
[01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:05.000]  A motion.
[01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.000]  Oh, no, she's not admitting to anything.
[01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:12.000]  She's just allowing you to raise the issue.
[01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:14.000]  Okay.
[01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:15.000]  Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:17.000]  Let me understand this.
[01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:20.000]  Was this heard in court?
[01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:22.000]  No, I haven't heard anything in court.
[01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:27.000]  Oh, so you just filed it, and the court allowed you to file it?
[01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:31.000]  The court allowed me to file it, and they granted it.
[01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:33.000]  They signed the order.
[01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:38.000]  They signed the order, and the defense didn't object, or the state didn't object.
[01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:40.000]  Oh, that's just for continuance.
[01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:42.000]  Oh, okay, yeah.
[01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.000]  Okay, listen, we're about to go to break.
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[01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:49.000]  We're talking with Stephen in Montana.
[01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:53.000]  Okay, we need to move along quickly here because we have other callers.
[01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:54.000]  It's the last segment.
[01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:57.000]  Randy, you were talking something about a motion for continuance.
[01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:00.000]  Yeah, it was a motion for continuance. All she granted was the continuance.
[01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:02.000]  Well, that's a good thing.
[01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:06.000]  Essentially, it's not going to make any difference what you put in there.
[01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:19.000]  You're only counted unless you wrote a specific waiver, a waiver of speedy trial.
[01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:24.000]  It's not going to count anyway. She just granted you a continuance.
[01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:26.000]  Yeah, she granted me a continuance.
[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:30.000]  So I don't think I have a motion that is missed for lack of speedy trial now
[01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:31.000]  since we've heard the report.
[01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:32.000]  Yeah, sure you do.
[01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:41.000]  If the decision from the higher courts came down, that's when the clock starts again.
[01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:42.000]  Okay.
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:43.000]  Make the claim.
[01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:48.000]  It's only like five days.
[01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:51.000]  Okay, we'll make the claim.
[01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  Okay. I'll call back tomorrow. I've got a whole bunch of stuff to go over with you guys.
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:58.000]  Okay, yeah, call back tomorrow when we have more time.
[01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:01.000]  And please call back earlier in the show too.
[01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:02.000]  Okay.
[01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:03.000]  All right, thanks.
[01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:04.000]  Bye-bye.
[01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:07.000]  Okay, we're going now to Grant in Texas.
[01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:08.000]  Grant, thanks for calling in.
[01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.000]  First time caller, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:11.000]  What's your question for us?
[01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:12.000]  Yeah, thank you.
[01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:14.000]  I have two pretty concise questions.
[01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  The first is I had a JP hearing that I won, and the other party had appealed it.
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:28.000]  And I've just been notified yesterday with the JP court, but I've never been served anything.
[01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:32.000]  Shouldn't I be served if they're bringing this to appeal?
[01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.000]  What were you notified?
[01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:42.000]  Well, the JP court told me that they appealed, I think on the 4th or the 5th, they appealed the ruling.
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  I got the judgment in my favor, but the other party has appealed it.
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  Okay, well, they've probably got time.
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:52.000]  They put in a notice of appeal to the court.
[01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:58.000]  They've got to do that within 10 days, but they haven't appealed it yet.
[01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:02.000]  Okay, I'll get served, like formally served.
[01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:05.000]  Yeah, when they file the appeal, they'll file a copy of it with you.
[01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:06.000]  They'll serve you.
[01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  Okay, I just want to make sure they won't do anything behind my back and get some kind of default judgment.
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:17.000]  Here's a quick question I had was I have a suit that I had filed, and I got the response back,
[01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  and they did a motion to dismiss it as prejudice, and they also did a motion for a more definite statement.
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:29.000]  I was just wondering, is the next step to wait for the judge to make a ruling on that?
[01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:33.000]  Yeah, the judge would have to rule on it.
[01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:44.000]  You know you really need to respond to it, and generally this is a federal, Rule 12 is kind of a knee jerk,
[01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:49.000]  especially after the heightened pleading standards.
[01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:54.000]  Now it seems like no matter what you file, they just knee jerk.
[01:48:54.000 --> 01:49:01.000]  File the Rule 12 and ask the judge to, maybe because it's kind of new,
[01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  it's only been a year or so since the judge has raised the bar somewhat.
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  So they're regularly asking the judge to look at the specificity of the allegation,
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:25.000]  so they do a kind of knee jerk, but it's in the case law that it's bad form to dismiss on a Rule 12
[01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:30.000]  unless there's just nothing in the suit.
[01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:37.000]  Right, I was just wondering if I should even now be a little bit more specific with my allegations?
[01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  Yes, generally in the response to it, then you get more specific.
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  Okay, if I don't need to wait for the judge, I can move forward.
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:51.000]  Yeah, you need to give an answer, and well actually it kind of depends on you.
[01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:55.000]  You can do your specific answer in the Rule 12.
[01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:56.000]  Okay.
[01:49:56.000 --> 01:50:02.000]  Like you can ask the judge to treat this as a request for a more definite statement
[01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  and offer this as the more definite statement.
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:07.000]  Okay, excellent.
[01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  Okay, well thank you all for the information.
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:11.000]  I appreciate it.
[01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:13.000]  All right, thanks, Grant.
[01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:17.000]  Okay, we're going now to Carlos in California.
[01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:18.000]  Carlos, thanks for calling in.
[01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:20.000]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:21.000]  Good evening.
[01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:25.000]  I've got a couple quick things and one good thing to mention.
[01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:31.000]  But first of all, Randy, I know someone that's been trying to file a criminal complaint.
[01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  He found the notary didn't do her job properly.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:40.000]  She did something unlawful, and this person went to the police.
[01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:41.000]  They said, no, you have to go.
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:43.000]  They have her running around.
[01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:46.000]  What is the best and easiest way to file a criminal complaint?
[01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.000]  Okay, piece of cake.
[01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:49.000]  That's why I came here.
[01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:59.000]  You make up a criminal affidavit and just go down to the court and look in the criminal case files
[01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:02.000]  and look at a criminal complaint in there.
[01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:10.000]  They all use the same form, and they vary somewhat with jurisdictions.
[01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:16.000]  And get a copy of any criminal complaint and use that form.
[01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:20.000]  In the states, they don't require this, but in the Fed, they do.
[01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:27.000]  They require that you write the complaint in the language of the statute.
[01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:33.000]  And that's a good form in the state or in the federal.
[01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:43.000]  Like the primary one I like to do is, in Texas, it's 39.03, official oppression.
[01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:48.000]  The public official fails to perform a duty he's required to perform
[01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:54.000]  or exerts or purports to exert an authority he does not expressly have,
[01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:57.000]  and in the process denies the citizen full free access to a dorm.
[01:51:57.000 --> 01:51:58.000]  Right.
[01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:07.000]  They say the individual failed to perform a duty he's required to perform specifically,
[01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:12.000]  and then you state the duty and the details of how he failed to perform the duty.
[01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  Or exerted or purported to exert an authority he did not specifically have,
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:26.000]  and then you explain what he did that was an expression of authority he didn't have.
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:32.000]  And then therefore, you start out with I have reason to believe and do believe
[01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:36.000]  based on the following, that he violated this law.
[01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:42.000]  You state the language of the law, and by doing this, and therefore,
[01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:45.000]  you're accusing him of committing this crime.
[01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:50.000]  Just look at how they write it up and write it up similar.
[01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  Take it to a notary, sign it in front of a notary,
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:53:02.000]  and unless you can put the affidavit of fact in the complaint itself,
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:07.000]  or you can make the complaint just bare bones
[01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:12.000]  and then put a statement of facts as an affidavit with it, have that verified.
[01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:17.000]  That is a complaint as opposed to complaining.
[01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:21.000]  If you go to the police department and tell them these guys did dirty rotten stuff,
[01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.000]  that's complaining.
[01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:28.000]  And then the police department has a duty to prevent crime,
[01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:33.000]  so they will generally either look at it or if it's against a public official,
[01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:34.000]  they're just going to blow it off.
[01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:36.000]  They're not going to do anything.
[01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:38.000]  They're not required to.
[01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:41.000]  They have a certain amount of discretion.
[01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:42.000]  However...
[01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:44.000]  Should you report it to the police or no?
[01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:46.000]  I generally don't bother.
[01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.000]  If it's a public official...
[01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:49.000]  No, it's not a public official.
[01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.000]  It's just a notary.
[01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:52.000]  It's a notary.
[01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:53.000]  Then you can.
[01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:54.000]  They might.
[01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:55.000]  Wait a minute.
[01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:56.000]  A public official, a notary is a public official.
[01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:59.000]  A notary is an officer of the court.
[01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:05.000]  Yeah, but a notary is not close enough to the court that they tend to protect them.
[01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:07.000]  Well, there's still the point is there's still a public servant.
[01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:08.000]  I understand that,
[01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:12.000]  but the notaries are generally just ordinary people out here that are running the business
[01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:15.000]  and they happen to have a notary business.
[01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:18.000]  They're not considered a part of the court.
[01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:22.000]  They're not the people that these guys deal with every day,
[01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.000]  so they don't consider them a part of their little club.
[01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.000]  So they might actually go after them,
[01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:31.000]  but you really need to give them a written verified affidavit.
[01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:36.000]  Generally, they'll give you this form to fill out that's a voluntary statement.
[01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:37.000]  Right, right.
[01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:42.000]  If you want to...
[01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:45.000]  What is the point of going after the notary?
[01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:48.000]  How does it lead toward your outcome?
[01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:58.000]  Well, this notary did an unlawful...that notary did not have the president in front of this person.
[01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:00.000]  Now this person left their house.
[01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:01.000]  I mean, it's a big thing.
[01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:02.000]  That's a big thing.
[01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:04.000]  It's a huge thing for me.
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:06.000]  Yeah, that's a really huge thing.
[01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:10.000]  We're finding it in all cases in California.
[01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:12.000]  So it's a pattern?
[01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:14.000]  Yes, it's a pattern.
[01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:18.000]  Let me tell you a story about when I was a notary.
[01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:23.000]  I had a friend that went into the bail bond business.
[01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:26.000]  I helped him get in the bail bond business years ago,
[01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:31.000]  and he needed a notary to notarize his bail bond forms.
[01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:35.000]  So he set me up as a notary, and he called me another one day,
[01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:39.000]  and he wanted me to notarize a whole bunch of these blank documents.
[01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:41.000]  I said, wait a minute.
[01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:44.000]  I got to notarize it when the person's here.
[01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:46.000]  I said, well, this way everybody in the whole county does it.
[01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:49.000]  All of them do it this way.
[01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:51.000]  I said, okay.
[01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:56.000]  And then I wound up getting arrested when the sheriff's deputy tried to kill me
[01:55:56.000 --> 01:56:02.000]  and didn't get it done and then charged me to cover up what he did.
[01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:05.000]  And my friend came down and bailed me out.
[01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:11.000]  And when I read the bail form, I was the notary on it.
[01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:15.000]  I said, Jim, you sure this is okay?
[01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:19.000]  Well, maybe this could cause a problem.
[01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:22.000]  So it is common practice.
[01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:23.000]  Right, right.
[01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:26.000]  And it may just be common practice there where the notary just comes in,
[01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:28.000]  stamps a whole bunch of them.
[01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:29.000]  Right.
[01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:34.000]  But it's certainly a way to hammer them because it gives them opportunity to...
[01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:38.000]  Okay, one quick really important point for everybody,
[01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:41.000]  and that might knock their socks out, Randy.
[01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:45.000]  I went to a seminar in Arizona last weekend,
[01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:51.000]  and we had a banker, ex-banker, 30 years' experience in banking.
[01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:53.000]  I don't know if I've heard of him.
[01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:54.000]  Okay.
[01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:55.000]  No, this is what he said.
[01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:56.000]  You probably already heard it.
[01:56:56.000 --> 01:56:59.000]  He says that whenever someone's in bankruptcy,
[01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:04.000]  as soon as they file a bankruptcy, there is in the Pulling Services Agreement
[01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:09.000]  an insurance that triggers and pays off the debt.
[01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:10.000]  I'm just telling you to be creative.
[01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:12.000]  Oh, that is interesting.
[01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:13.000]  It is real interesting.
[01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:15.000]  But I'm not going to tell you to do it.
[01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:17.000]  I'm just going to tell you to be creative.
[01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:18.000]  Okay.
[01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  The thing about the insurance, it's interesting,
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:28.000]  but I had someone raise that issue today that they got paid off by the mortgage insurance.
[01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:29.000]  Yes.
[01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:30.000]  And I told them well?
[01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:32.000]  The insurance is that you don't pay, okay?
[01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:35.000]  It's an insurance that they get on their own,
[01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:37.000]  and it triggers when you file bankruptcy.
[01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:38.000]  Okay.
[01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:40.000]  Here's why it doesn't help you.
[01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:41.000]  Okay.
[01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:43.000]  Because they're gambling.
[01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  They placed this bet that they made a bet with the insurance company.
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:58.000]  They bet the property would be involved in bankruptcy,
[01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:01.000]  and the insurance company bet it wouldn't.
[01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  The insurance company lost the bet.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:04.000]  Okay.
[01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:08.000]  So it doesn't help you in alleviating your liability.
[01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:10.000]  It's not really a payoff of the mortgage.
[01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:11.000]  It's just an insurance claim.
[01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:13.000]  Yeah.
[01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:14.000]  All right, guys.
[01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:15.000]  I'll stand back now.
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:16.000]  Thank you.
[01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:17.000]  Okay.
[01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:18.000]  Thanks, Carlos.
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