[00:00.000 --> 00:08.880] At least five people have been killed in the latest U.S. drone strike in Pakistan's North [00:08.880 --> 00:10.880] Waziristan Tribal District. [00:10.880 --> 00:16.960] U.S. drones have targeted Pakistan's tribal areas at least six times over the past week, [00:16.960 --> 00:18.680] killing 33 people. [00:18.680 --> 00:22.560] More than 1,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in drone attacks over the [00:22.560 --> 00:23.960] past two years. [00:23.960 --> 00:30.360] In Iraq Sunday, three people were killed after U.S. military units fired on insurgents in [00:30.360 --> 00:32.240] support of Iraqi troops. [00:32.240 --> 00:37.200] It was the second such episode since the U.S. declared an end to combat operations two weeks [00:37.200 --> 00:38.340] ago. [00:38.340 --> 00:44.080] After Iraqi forces asked for help, U.S. helicopters fired rockets at the snipers, and U.S. soldiers [00:44.080 --> 00:48.160] helped Iraqi troops defuse at least two bombs. [00:48.160 --> 00:53.600] Newsweek reported Friday WikiLeaks plans to release new files about the Iraq War. [00:53.600 --> 00:59.040] In July, the website published 77,000 Afghan war documents and now says it will release [00:59.040 --> 01:01.920] another 15,000 documents. [01:01.920 --> 01:07.680] Ian Overton, editor of the UK Bureau of Investigative Journalism, says the new material constitutes [01:07.680 --> 01:12.200] the biggest leak of military intelligence ever. [01:12.200 --> 01:17.040] Senior Obama administration officials have concluded they need to step back from promoting [01:17.040 --> 01:22.440] U.S.-style law enforcement as the main means of fighting corruption in Afghanistan because [01:22.440 --> 01:26.360] of the rift it has caused with President Hamid Karzai. [01:26.360 --> 01:30.720] Officials said there was a growing consensus key corruption cases against people in Karzai's [01:30.720 --> 01:35.960] government should be resolved with face-saving compromises behind closed doors instead of [01:35.960 --> 01:37.760] public prosecutions. [01:37.760 --> 01:43.080] Relations between Karzai and the U.S. have nosedived since the arrest of one of his palace [01:43.080 --> 01:46.240] aides on bribery charges six weeks ago. [01:46.240 --> 01:51.800] The arrest by an Afghan anti-craft task force supported by the FBI and other U.S. law enforcement [01:51.800 --> 01:55.280] agencies proved embarrassing for the Afghan leader. [01:55.280 --> 02:00.880] Karzai responded by ordering the aide released and instructing his justice ministry to impose [02:00.880 --> 02:08.200] new rules limiting international involvement in corruption investigations. [02:08.200 --> 02:12.760] Barack Obama has found another reason for closing the prison camps for suspected terrorists [02:12.760 --> 02:13.760] at Guantanamo. [02:13.760 --> 02:15.160] It's too expensive. [02:15.160 --> 02:20.480] Obama said Friday, the cost of holding folks in Guantanamo is massively higher than in [02:20.480 --> 02:25.520] holding them in a super-max, maximum security prison here in the United States. [02:25.520 --> 02:29.720] The Pentagon reports the annual cost of running the prison camps staffed by U.S. military [02:29.720 --> 02:36.640] troops at $116 million, with a current population of 176 detainees. [02:36.640 --> 02:39.760] That's more than $650,000 each. [02:39.760 --> 02:45.520] In contrast, it costs $5500 a year to keep a prisoner in federal detention. [02:45.520 --> 02:50.960] Soon after taking office, Obama signed an executive order setting a one-year deadline to empty [02:50.960 --> 02:51.960] the prison camps. [02:51.960 --> 02:56.920] However, Congress blocked White House efforts to buy an Illinois federal prison and turn [02:56.920 --> 02:59.040] it into a super-max-style facility. [02:59.040 --> 03:29.000] This news brief brought to you by the International News Network. [03:29.000 --> 03:49.560] Thank you. [03:59.000 --> 04:18.200] All right, folks. Good evening. This is Rule of Law Radio. I am Eddie Craig. I'm here with [04:18.200 --> 04:23.640] Deborah Stevens. Tonight is Monday night, which is our traffic night. And I've got some [04:23.640 --> 04:28.520] material I want to present to you tonight, dealing specifically with driver's license [04:28.520 --> 04:37.160] and attorneys in general here in Texas. The first thing I want to go over is Chapter 522 [04:37.160 --> 04:45.400] of the Transportation Code, specifically Section 522.002. It's a very short, it's titled [04:45.400 --> 04:52.200] Construction, and this is how it reads, this chapter is a remedial law that shall be liberally [04:52.200 --> 04:58.600] construed to promote the public health, safety, and welfare. Now, the first question to be [04:58.600 --> 05:05.320] asking is, what is a remedial law? Well, let me tell you what Black's Law 6th Edition on [05:05.320 --> 05:12.280] page 1293 says the definition of a remedial law or statute is. Now, this is kind of lengthy, [05:12.280 --> 05:17.480] but please bear with me because it's going to make sense when I'm done. Remedial laws [05:17.480 --> 05:23.880] or statutes, legislation providing means or method whereby causes of action may be [05:25.400 --> 05:32.360] effectuated, wrongs addressed, and relief obtained is remedial. Statutes which afford [05:32.360 --> 05:37.880] a remedy or improve or facilitate remedies already existing for enforcement of rights [05:37.880 --> 05:44.200] and redress of injuries. Those statutes which pertain to or affect a remedy as distinguished [05:44.200 --> 05:50.840] from those which affect or modify a substantive right or duty. Those designed to correct [05:50.840 --> 05:56.440] imperfections in the prior law and to cure a wrong where an aggrieved party had an ineffective [05:56.440 --> 06:04.200] remedy under existing statutes. One of that intends to afford a private remedy to a person [06:04.200 --> 06:10.360] injured by the wrongful act. That which is designed to correct an existing law, redress [06:10.360 --> 06:17.240] an existing grievance, or introduce regulations conducive to the public good. A statute giving [06:17.240 --> 06:25.080] a party a mode of remedy for a wrong where he had none or a different one before. One [06:25.080 --> 06:30.440] which furnishes new remedy to claimant who has suffered injustice due to technical requirements [06:30.440 --> 06:36.680] of general statute. The underlying test to be applied in determining whether a statute [06:36.680 --> 06:44.120] is penal or remedial is whether it primarily seeks to impose an arbitrary deterring punishment [06:44.120 --> 06:49.240] upon any who might commit a wrong against the public by a violation of the requirements [06:49.240 --> 06:54.440] of the statute or whether the purpose is to measure and define the damage which may accrue [06:54.440 --> 07:00.600] to an individual or class of individuals as just and reasonable compensation for a possible [07:00.600 --> 07:06.280] loss having a casual connection with the breach of the legal obligation owing under the statute [07:06.280 --> 07:17.160] to such individual or class. Now let's look at remedy. The means by which a right is enforced [07:17.160 --> 07:23.640] or the violation of a right is prevented, redressed, or compensated. The means employed [07:23.640 --> 07:30.120] to enforce a right or redress an injury as distinguished from right which is a well-founded [07:30.120 --> 07:37.000] or acknowledged claim. The rights given to a party by law or by contract which that party [07:37.000 --> 07:42.840] may exercise upon a default by the other contracting party or upon the commission of a wrong, meaning [07:42.840 --> 07:50.760] a tort, by another party. Now let's take a quick look at remedial. Affording a remedy [07:50.760 --> 07:57.880] giving means of obtaining redress of the nature of a remedy intended to remedy wrongs and [07:57.880 --> 08:04.120] abuses, abate faults, or supply defects pertaining to or affecting remedy as distinguished from [08:04.120 --> 08:10.680] that which affects or modifies the right. Now as we all know if you've ever attended [08:10.680 --> 08:15.880] this seminar or listened to me very much, Chapter 522 of the Texas Transportation Code [08:15.880 --> 08:26.040] as a chapter is specifically titled Commercial Drivers Licenses. That's all that Chapter 522 [08:26.040 --> 08:34.520] supposedly deals with. However, the premise has been that Chapter 522 deals with the issuance [08:34.520 --> 08:42.600] of those license, but 522.002 says that is not the case. It specifically states that [08:42.600 --> 08:50.600] this entire chapter is remedial law, meaning it is intended to provide a remedy under existing [08:50.600 --> 08:57.720] law for a wrong that has been perpetrated according to the offenses it names. Now consider [08:57.720 --> 09:05.560] that. If that is in effect how this is to be read and interpreted as it's written, that [09:05.560 --> 09:13.480] means there is no line between Chapter 521.001 licenses and 522.002 licenses. There is no [09:13.480 --> 09:20.600] distinguishing characteristics whatsoever. They are absolutely one and the same. There [09:20.600 --> 09:25.880] is no difference. The Commercial Drivers License by default along with the other arguments [09:25.880 --> 09:35.400] I presented on that is absolutely the same license in 521 as it is in 522. Now how can [09:35.400 --> 09:43.400] we verify that? Well there's a couple of different ways. In Chapter 522.003 sub item 5 we have [09:43.400 --> 09:48.840] the definition of what a commercial motor vehicle is, and this is how it reads. Commercial [09:48.840 --> 09:54.760] motor vehicle means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used to transport passengers [09:54.760 --> 10:03.000] or property that A, has a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, including [10:03.000 --> 10:08.920] a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds. B, has a gross [10:08.920 --> 10:17.480] vehicle weight rating of 26,001 or more pounds. C, is designed to transport 16 or more passengers [10:17.480 --> 10:22.840] including the driver. Or D, is transporting hazardous materials and is required to be [10:22.840 --> 10:33.160] placarded under 49 CFR part 172 sub part F. And six controls substance means a substance [10:33.160 --> 10:39.960] classified as a control substance under. Now this in effect is telling us what the vehicles [10:39.960 --> 10:45.800] are that are commercial motor vehicles. What their rate ratings are, what their weight [10:45.800 --> 10:53.400] capacities are, so on and so forth. It also tells us that they are transporting hazardous [10:53.400 --> 11:00.280] materials and is required to be placarded under 49 CFR. Well there's our link to the [11:00.280 --> 11:06.040] Code of Federal Regulations for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Act in 522. But we knew [11:06.040 --> 11:11.080] that was going to be there because it specifically says it's commercial motor vehicles, right? [11:12.520 --> 11:17.640] Well let's remember what the definition of commercial motor vehicle is and let's take [11:17.640 --> 11:22.760] a look at something else here real quick. I want to read to you in chapter 521 what [11:22.760 --> 11:33.480] classifications you are allowed to operate using these licenses, okay? Let me see if [11:33.480 --> 11:44.280] I can find the particular section here. Let's see. Now on these, the issue with these licenses [11:44.280 --> 11:49.160] has always been that we believe that they're different. Law enforcement acts as if they're [11:49.160 --> 11:55.880] different. They are not. They are in fact one in the same. The list of vehicles as we've [11:55.880 --> 12:04.200] also seen in the seminar is exactly the same under 521 as it is under 522, okay? There [12:04.200 --> 12:14.520] is no difference. Okay. License to be carried and exhibited on demand, okay? You'll like [12:14.520 --> 12:20.520] this part. Criminal penalty. This is where they charge you for not giving them your license [12:20.520 --> 12:28.520] when they demand it. A person required to hold a license under section 521.021, which [12:28.520 --> 12:33.080] is the section they should be charging you under if they charge you for operating without [12:33.080 --> 12:41.000] a license, shall one, having the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle, [12:41.000 --> 12:46.440] the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated, okay? The [12:46.440 --> 12:53.480] class of driver's license that is appropriate for the type of vehicle operated, and two, [12:53.480 --> 13:01.800] display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer, okay? So this [13:01.800 --> 13:07.080] goes into it and tells you, you got to have the license, and 521 specifically says license [13:07.080 --> 13:13.800] required. A person other than a person expressly exempted under this chapter may not operate [13:13.800 --> 13:18.280] a motor vehicle on a highway in this state unless the person holds a driver's license [13:18.280 --> 13:26.040] issued under this chapter. Now notice what is missing in 522 is a requirement that you [13:26.040 --> 13:34.440] possess a commercial driver's license issued under that chapter. 521 removes all doubt [13:34.440 --> 13:43.960] in 521.021 that the license can only be issued under 521. It cannot and is not issued under [13:43.960 --> 13:56.360] 522, okay? Because it's not issued under 522, that ties 521 and 522 together. It's all commercial [13:56.360 --> 14:04.280] as we've seen many times before, okay? Now, let's get into the definition of driver's license [14:04.280 --> 14:11.640] and you'll see what I'm talking about. Driver's license under 521.001 definitions, subsection [14:11.640 --> 14:17.880] A, sub item three. Driver's license means an authorization issued by the department for [14:17.880 --> 14:23.960] the operation of a motor vehicle. The term includes A, a temporary license or instruction [14:23.960 --> 14:32.600] permit and B, an occupational license. We all know that. Now let's look at four. Gross combination [14:32.600 --> 14:40.040] weight rating has the meaning assigned by section 522.003, which is what I read to you. [14:40.040 --> 14:52.920] Gross vehicle weight rating in under five has the same definition as in section 522.003. Also, [14:52.920 --> 14:59.720] license means an authorization to operate a motor vehicle that is issued under or granted [14:59.720 --> 15:06.120] by the laws of this state. The term includes A, a driver's license, which we just saw is [15:06.120 --> 15:12.120] a temporary license or instruction permit and an occupational license, okay? Those are [15:12.120 --> 15:19.640] the only things it applies to. And B, the privilege of a person to operate a motor vehicle [15:19.640 --> 15:25.400] regardless of whether the person holds a driver's license and C, a non-residence operating [15:25.400 --> 15:33.560] privilege, okay? Now, if we keep going through this, we're going to see, as we have many [15:33.560 --> 15:39.480] times at the seminars and such and on the show here, that these are directly tied as [15:39.480 --> 15:45.640] a commercial requirement. This is how you show that the operation of a motor vehicle [15:45.640 --> 15:51.880] requiring such a license, which can only be required of those engaging in commerce simply [15:51.880 --> 16:00.360] by using 521.00 and 522.00 to absolutely show that, then the only correlation that's left [16:00.360 --> 16:06.280] to be had is what is the license actually being issued for? Is it being issued for engaging [16:06.280 --> 16:14.120] in a particular action or regulated activity? Or is it specifically for the issuance and [16:14.120 --> 16:22.600] operation of operating a motor vehicle while that motor vehicle is being used in that occupation [16:22.600 --> 16:28.520] or activity that the state has the authority to regulate? Either way, it all boils down [16:28.520 --> 16:34.520] to the same thing, okay? We're about to take a break. If you folks will hang on, I'll get [16:34.520 --> 16:39.240] into the other table here in just a second. 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Let's see if any of this sounds familiar. Class A license. A Class A driver's [19:05.480 --> 19:11.880] license authorizes the holder of the license to operate, one, a vehicle with a gross vehicle [19:11.880 --> 19:21.640] weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, or, two, a combination of vehicles that has a gross [19:21.640 --> 19:28.440] combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more if the gross vehicle weight rating of any [19:28.440 --> 19:36.920] vehicle or vehicle in tow is more than 10,000 pounds. Class B license. A Class B driver's [19:36.920 --> 19:42.600] license authorizes the holder of the license to operate, one, a vehicle with a gross vehicle [19:42.600 --> 19:49.480] weight rating that is more than 26,000 pounds, two, a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating [19:49.480 --> 19:56.600] of 26,000 pounds or more towing, A, a vehicle other than a farm trailer with a gross vehicle [19:56.600 --> 20:02.680] weight rating that is not more than 10,000 pounds, or, B, a farm trailer with a gross [20:02.680 --> 20:08.600] vehicle weight rating that is not more than 20,000 pounds, three, a bus with a seating [20:08.600 --> 20:17.800] capacity of 24 passengers or more. Now, wait a minute. If these are the types of motor [20:17.800 --> 20:25.720] vehicles that you can operate with a 521 issued license, why does it sound exactly the same [20:25.720 --> 20:33.080] as the licenses issued under 522? Why are the vehicles identical? Why are the weight [20:33.080 --> 20:40.760] capacities identical? Why is the passenger capacity identical? Because they're the same [20:40.760 --> 20:51.160] license, folks. There is no difference. They are commercial only. That's all they've ever been. [20:51.160 --> 20:56.760] Now, there are several folks I'm working on cases with for traffic offenses, and one of [20:56.760 --> 21:03.080] them I was talking to today, and I was talking to him about the owes of office that the public [21:03.080 --> 21:09.160] servants are required to have. Now, I'm going to switch gears and subjects here for a minute, [21:09.960 --> 21:15.640] and I want you to see if you can follow along with what we're dealing with here, okay? Now, [21:15.640 --> 21:23.640] the Texas Constitution in Article 16 says the following. Section 1, official oath, subsection [21:23.640 --> 21:34.920] A, all elected and appointed officers, okay? Now, it does not say state, local, county. It says [21:34.920 --> 21:46.680] state, local, county. It says all elected and appointed officers. Before they enter upon the [21:46.680 --> 21:56.680] duties of their offices, shall, meaning they must, that creates a duty upon them, shall take the [21:56.680 --> 22:03.400] following oath or affirmation, and then it gives the oath that the Texas Constitution says they [22:03.400 --> 22:14.120] must take. Then you have subsection B, all elected or appointed officers. Again, doesn't matter if [22:14.120 --> 22:23.880] they are federal or state, local or county, all elected or appointed officers. Before taking the [22:23.880 --> 22:30.440] oath or affirmation of office prescribed by this section, okay, before they take the oath or [22:30.440 --> 22:37.400] affirmation of office, which was what we saw up in A, and entering upon the duties of office, [22:38.600 --> 22:45.880] shall, there's that duty again, shall subscribe to the following statement. Subscribe means swear [22:45.880 --> 22:53.880] and sign or affirm and sign, and this is known as, commonly, the anti-bribery statement, [22:53.880 --> 23:05.320] okay? But it's also called in the Constitution, the officer statement, okay? Now, C, members of [23:05.320 --> 23:12.840] the legislature, the secretary of state, and all other elected and appointed state officers shall [23:12.840 --> 23:19.640] file the signed statement required by subsection B of this section with the secretary of state [23:19.640 --> 23:25.880] before taking the oath or affirmation of office prescribed by subsection A of this section. [23:25.880 --> 23:31.800] Now, get this. The Constitution says that they must file the anti-bribery statement [23:31.800 --> 23:40.600] with the secretary of state at the state level for state offices before they can even take the oath [23:40.600 --> 23:49.960] of office. You get that? So, my first question becomes, where do the courts of this state [23:49.960 --> 23:56.520] determine that when these officers have an anti-bribery statement and an oath of office [23:56.520 --> 24:04.760] signed on the same day at the same time, that act was constitutional? Because right here, [24:04.760 --> 24:11.000] the Constitution says that they must file the anti-bribery statement before they even take [24:11.000 --> 24:17.080] the oath of office, okay? Let's go a little bit further. [24:18.920 --> 24:25.960] All other officers shall retain the signed statement required by subsection B of this section [24:25.960 --> 24:33.640] with the official records of the office. Well, that's it. That's all of section one of article [24:33.640 --> 24:42.680] 16 regarding oaths of office and anti-bribery statements. Now, as I said, there is no distinction [24:42.680 --> 24:49.800] over whether it's state, local or county. This stipulates that every officer, whether elected [24:49.800 --> 24:58.120] or appointed, must do this. Where is the one for the city attorneys who act as prosecutors in these [24:58.120 --> 25:05.000] municipal courts? Where's the ones for the judges or the prosecuting attorneys at the county or [25:05.000 --> 25:11.880] the district attorney level that never filed an oath of office? And since the Constitution [25:11.880 --> 25:18.680] specifically says that this act must be done before they assume the duties of their office, [25:19.640 --> 25:26.120] what makes these judges that rule upon this when it's brought out say, [25:26.120 --> 25:30.520] oh, no, it doesn't have to be done that way? What gives them the authority to do that? [25:30.520 --> 25:36.520] And how in the world do any of these officials think that attempting to retroactively sign one [25:36.520 --> 25:44.680] of these documents or to sign one now and just pick up as if everything's okay is legal or lawful? [25:46.200 --> 25:50.680] Because it certainly doesn't jive with what the Constitution said they're required to do. [25:50.680 --> 25:56.600] If the public servant failed in doing what he was required to do before he could assume the duties [25:56.600 --> 26:07.400] of office, he is in office illegally. He cannot fix that because the mandate was there that it be [26:07.400 --> 26:13.640] done before he ever begins to have the duties placed upon him to operate within the powers of his [26:13.640 --> 26:20.760] office. Because let's look at what happens if that's not the way it works. If they say, oh, [26:20.760 --> 26:25.560] no, we don't have to worry about that. Just let him sign a statement and go ahead. Well, pardon me, [26:25.560 --> 26:35.560] judge, moron. But how exactly is it constitutionally acceptable and legal for you to take a judge or [26:35.560 --> 26:43.560] prosecuting attorney that did not abide by the Constitution say that this act must be done before [26:43.560 --> 26:48.360] a year and a half after they started the duties of their office, they finally take their oath [26:49.320 --> 26:55.000] and you're going to gloss over every illegal conviction and trial they have presided or [26:55.000 --> 27:04.280] prosecuted over since the day they started work? How are you going to fix the unconstitutional [27:04.280 --> 27:09.800] acts by these public officials for the people that they abused their power over when they acted [27:09.800 --> 27:16.040] without lawful authority? You're just going to gloss over those convictions and those prosecutions [27:16.040 --> 27:22.920] and say they don't matter? You're going to say that, oh, it's okay, they have been found guilty [27:22.920 --> 27:34.920] anyway? Who gave any of you that right? Who gave any of you that power? It certainly was not the [27:34.920 --> 27:43.320] people, the Constitution says so. The Constitution says you will do it this way. It creates a duty [27:43.320 --> 27:51.800] for you to do it this way. Why aren't you doing it this way? And why aren't you punishing those [27:51.800 --> 27:56.280] that usurp the powers of an office that they do not officially hold? [27:56.280 --> 28:04.760] How corrupt do you have to be to see that what you're doing is wrong? I'm not corrupt and I can [28:04.760 --> 28:09.160] see it. I guarantee you the folks that listen to this show can go look at this and they can see it. [28:11.320 --> 28:17.320] Why is it those serving in public office can't see it? Oh, wait, I know, because they're profiting [28:17.320 --> 28:24.440] from their illegal acts. So it's okay for them to turn a blind eye. They're profiting from their [28:24.440 --> 28:31.080] illegal acts. It's okay for them to turn a blind eye. This has got to stop, folks. It really, [28:31.080 --> 28:36.040] really does. But now that we know what the oaths of office require, let's look at something [28:36.040 --> 28:43.080] interesting here. I want to take you over to Chapter 81 of the Government Code here in Texas. [28:44.280 --> 28:53.400] Chapter 81.001, short title. This chapter may be cited as the State Bar Act. This is where our [28:53.400 --> 28:59.160] Bar Association comes from here in Texas. Now let's talk some real corruption, folks. [29:01.240 --> 29:10.200] All right. Now let's see. The State Bar is subject to the Sunset Act, according to 81.003. [29:11.320 --> 29:18.840] But let's go to sub-Chapter B, Administrative Provisions, Section 81.011, General Powers. [29:18.840 --> 29:29.080] Sub-Section A. The State Bar is a public corporation and an administrative agency [29:29.720 --> 29:37.160] of the Judicial Department of Government. Get that? The Judicial Department of Government. [29:38.520 --> 29:42.360] All right. We're going on a break. We'll pick up on the other side. This is Eddie Craig, [29:42.360 --> 29:47.480] Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio. Y'all hang in there. We got just a little bit further to go with [29:47.480 --> 29:50.280] this, and we'll be right back after this break. [30:17.480 --> 30:44.040] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I think that's just plain creepy. I'll say more in a moment. [30:47.480 --> 31:16.920] Hey, Gmail users. Ever seen an online ad that [31:16.920 --> 31:21.080] exactly matches something you discussed in a private email? It's no coincidence. [31:21.080 --> 31:26.920] See, Google offers you Gmail about a $40 annual value for free so they can get inside your head [31:26.920 --> 31:31.400] and figure out your interests by reading your mail. They say reading every message you send [31:31.400 --> 31:36.600] or receive helps them better target ads, but most people have no idea that Google keeps a record of [31:36.600 --> 31:41.320] their email content, and they'd be pretty upset if they knew. When Gmail was first released, [31:41.320 --> 31:46.200] dozens of privacy experts asked Google to stay out of people's private correspondence. [31:46.200 --> 31:50.360] Unfortunately, Google ignored our request. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. [31:50.360 --> 32:16.760] More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [32:20.600 --> 32:25.080] Folks, we are back. This is the Rule of Law Radio. This is Eddie Craig with Ever Stevens. [32:25.880 --> 32:30.760] We're going over the State Bar Act. Now, folks, we will be opening up the phone lines here [32:30.760 --> 32:39.080] very shortly. The call-in number is 512-646-1984. Please go ahead and get ready to start calling in [32:39.080 --> 32:44.600] if you have any questions or comments you want to make. We won't be stacked up at the end of the [32:44.600 --> 32:48.760] show trying to get everybody answered and not make it. Please go ahead and get ready to start [32:48.760 --> 32:53.640] calling in. We'll open up either by the end of this segment or immediately at the end of this [32:53.640 --> 33:03.160] segment. Now, I want to read this one more time to you here. 81.011 General Powers of the Texas [33:03.160 --> 33:10.280] Government Code. A, the State Bar is a public corporation and an administrative agency of the [33:10.280 --> 33:18.120] Judicial Department of Government. You get that? A judicial of the Judicial Department of the [33:18.120 --> 33:27.400] Government. Okay? Now, let's see what another article says here. Article 2, the powers of [33:27.400 --> 33:35.080] government. Section 1, division of powers, three separate departments, exercise of power properly [33:35.080 --> 33:40.920] attached to other departments. The powers of the government of the State of Texas shall be divided [33:40.920 --> 33:47.880] into three distinct departments, each of which shall be confided to a separate body of magistracy, [33:47.880 --> 33:55.320] magistracy to wit, those which are legislative to one, those which are executive to another, [33:55.320 --> 34:01.560] and those which are judicial to another. And no person or collection of persons, [34:02.200 --> 34:09.320] being of one of these departments, shall exercise any power properly attached to either of the [34:09.320 --> 34:17.240] others except in the instances herein expressly permitted. Well, guess what? There are no instances [34:17.240 --> 34:26.360] herein expressly permitted. Now, let's look at this again. The State Bar is a public corporation [34:26.360 --> 34:32.680] and an administrative agency of the Judicial Department of Government. Well, this creates [34:32.680 --> 34:41.720] two problems for every attorney in the State of Texas that I can tell. Is an attorney, [34:41.720 --> 34:47.960] Deborah, let's take this as a Q&A thing, is an attorney, whether he is prosecuting or [34:47.960 --> 34:51.560] acting on behalf of the defense, an officer of the court? [34:56.040 --> 35:02.120] From what I've learned, the answer is yes. Okay. If an attorney is an officer of the court, [35:02.120 --> 35:06.600] they're an officer of the judicial branch of government if they have a bar card, aren't they? [35:06.600 --> 35:12.760] That's my understanding so far. If they're required to have this bar card, [35:12.760 --> 35:18.280] folks, they are judicial officers. Ask any one of them if they're an officer of the court. [35:18.280 --> 35:26.120] They will tell you yes. So, let's get into the two problems. The first problem is [35:26.120 --> 35:32.600] that completely negates the ability of any lawyer in Texas to serve either in the legislature [35:32.600 --> 35:40.360] or in the executive branches of government. Remember, the Constitution says that no person [35:40.360 --> 35:47.880] or collection of persons being of one of these departments. It doesn't say exercising one power [35:47.880 --> 35:53.720] at this time and one power at another. It says that they are being of one of these departments. [35:53.720 --> 36:02.760] They are not allowed to exercise the power and authority of any other branch or office, period. [36:04.760 --> 36:09.240] So, lawyers cannot serve in the executive or the legislative without violating [36:09.240 --> 36:17.720] Article 2, Division of Powers. Now, let's look at the second problem, which I think, [36:17.720 --> 36:23.240] after the epiphany I had on this today, could be even a bigger issue for them. [36:24.360 --> 36:31.320] As an elected or appointed officer, and they get appointment by the bar card, [36:31.320 --> 36:39.880] do they not? They are appointed to the bar. Where is their oath of office an anti-bribery statement? [36:39.880 --> 36:49.240] Where is their oath of office an anti-bribery statement? Every lawyer in Texas has to have one. [36:50.760 --> 36:55.480] Where are they? Why don't they have them? [36:55.480 --> 37:04.760] As you can see, this creates a very big, sudden problem, a black hole of lawyers, [37:04.760 --> 37:11.480] people versed in the legal system, because every one of them is acting in a public capacity [37:11.480 --> 37:18.440] by the acceptance of that bar card, and they have yet to qualify for their office, [37:18.440 --> 37:27.800] because they have not filed the constitutionally required oaths, an anti-bribery statement. [37:28.840 --> 37:35.880] So, folks, when people give you a crooked lawyer joke, understand just how truthful it really is. [37:37.320 --> 37:43.320] If you think I'm the first one to have discovered this, that no lawyer or judge in Texas has [37:43.320 --> 37:51.880] considered this, I would believe you're sadly mistaken. I mean, I'm not that smart. I can't be [37:51.880 --> 37:56.280] the only one that ever found this. I can't be the only one that ever arranged these blocks in this [37:56.280 --> 38:05.080] pattern and saw it for what it was. Somebody in this system, probably a lot of somebody, [38:05.080 --> 38:13.640] knows what's going on, and that's why these court judges have acted the way they have to protect [38:13.640 --> 38:21.320] their fellow criminals. They know they're acting completely in violation of law and constitution, [38:21.320 --> 38:27.080] and they don't care, because they control the system in all three cases. [38:27.080 --> 38:36.520] They're completely in violation of law and constitution, and they don't care, because they control the system in all three branches of government. [38:39.160 --> 38:45.560] Why do you think that if the judges who illegally un-unconstitutionally gave themselves [38:45.560 --> 38:52.840] and other public servants immunity from prosecution for acts that are violative of people's rights, [38:52.840 --> 38:57.320] if they didn't control the legislative branch of government, don't you think somebody would have [38:57.320 --> 39:03.720] been elected that would have introduced a bill to remove that alleged immunity that the courts gave to themselves? [39:07.240 --> 39:09.640] Why do you think that's never happened? [39:13.160 --> 39:18.760] Because they control all three branches of government. You've got the state attorney general [39:18.760 --> 39:27.640] in the executive branch, the executive branch, who protects the other crooks by creating attorney [39:27.640 --> 39:34.680] general's opinions on what you can and cannot do when it comes to prosecuting these guys, or holding them liable. [39:37.000 --> 39:39.720] It's a quid pro quo game with these guys. [39:39.720 --> 39:45.640] How many of them do you have operating in the executive branch, or the legislative branch, writing the laws? [39:45.640 --> 39:53.480] The chairman of the judicial committee that writes the code of criminal procedure and the penal code is a lawyer. [39:57.480 --> 40:05.240] I guarantee you if you take a head count, you would be sadly depressed about how many of these guys have been [40:05.240 --> 40:12.600] elected, you would be sadly depressed about how many lawyers are in the legislative side of government. [40:13.720 --> 40:20.280] Now why would a well-paid, usually pretty wealthy and well-off individual in the form of a lawyer [40:21.080 --> 40:27.320] want to serve in the Texas legislature when the Texas legislators don't receive pay? [40:27.320 --> 40:35.000] All they get is per diem for travel expenses to and from, and some expense allowances, but they don't get a paycheck. [40:36.040 --> 40:44.840] Why would highly powerful, well-to-do people want to serve in a non-paying position of that type? [40:45.880 --> 40:53.560] I can only think of two valid reasons, and I can guarantee you the second one normally does not apply. [40:53.560 --> 41:04.440] The first one is so that they can control the laws to ensure their future enrichment, is the easiest way to put it. [41:05.880 --> 41:12.120] They will write the laws, and they will construct the acts, then after they get the laws passed, [41:12.680 --> 41:18.840] they already have all the inside to do and information on what the law does and does not require. [41:18.840 --> 41:26.600] Now they can go out and invest their money in, or purchase, or create their own businesses [41:26.600 --> 41:32.840] that can take full advantage of the laws they constructed. [41:36.120 --> 41:45.800] Talk about the perfect racket. They write the laws so they know exactly what the law does not cover and what it does cover. [41:45.800 --> 41:56.680] They also know how to maximize the benefits of the laws to suit the businesses they helped create or gave free reign to, or didn't regulate at all. [41:58.760 --> 42:03.880] Or they write laws to benefit their own businesses that they've already set up. [42:03.880 --> 42:04.840] Exactly. [42:05.880 --> 42:08.760] And you know, Eddie, you bring up a really good point here. [42:08.760 --> 42:18.600] The fact that the legislators are not reimbursed is just a prescription for disaster, to coin one of Randy's phrases, [42:18.600 --> 42:33.000] because what that means is that only the very powerful and independently wealthy can afford to even run for office or hope to ever be a legislator, [42:33.000 --> 42:39.000] because most of us have to work for a living. [42:39.000 --> 42:49.000] Most of us are not independently wealthy where we can afford to donate a year of our time to public service without pay. [42:49.000 --> 42:59.000] That's why so many people can't sit on a grand jury, because you got to go three days a week all day for about three months. [42:59.000 --> 43:05.000] But to donate a year of your time, here in Texas, that's even more over the top. [43:05.000 --> 43:15.000] So all that does is lock out the normal person from ever being able to hope to be a legislator. [43:15.000 --> 43:27.000] Pretty much, which thus ensures that only those that have financial interest in the outcomes of the legislative enactments are there to see that they're written that way. [43:27.000 --> 43:33.000] Is that Constitution, Eddie, or is that statute that the legislators are not reimbursed or immersed for their time? [43:33.000 --> 43:37.000] I believe it's in the Constitution. [43:37.000 --> 43:41.000] Well, that's too bad. It was a noble idea to begin with, but it doesn't work. [43:41.000 --> 43:47.000] And only a constitutional amendment will change that, so we don't see that happening. 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[45:01.000 --> 45:20.000] If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one? [45:20.000 --> 45:26.000] If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die? [45:26.000 --> 45:32.000] Such a gentleman, a soldier, a warrior of love, scaffolding that keeps his peace. [45:32.000 --> 45:37.000] All they're taking is misunderstanding. Somebody calls the police. [45:37.000 --> 46:01.000] Watching the spots fly. [46:01.000 --> 46:07.000] The friction isn't addiction. The hard work can leave you cold as nails. [46:07.000 --> 46:13.000] There's a possibility, so it could be. Heavy loads of taping on skin. [46:13.000 --> 46:19.000] The time is colliding with the conscience. You find out after a while. [46:19.000 --> 46:24.000] It's not your moral standards. It's your patience that's on trial. [46:24.000 --> 46:52.000] Watching the spots fly. [46:52.000 --> 47:17.000] Action out on the outposts. The first kiss was so sweet. [47:17.000 --> 47:23.000] Don't ever tell me you're fighting for another. The dealer's knocking you right off your feet. [47:23.000 --> 47:29.000] It's the time to deal with the struggle. After trying to lighten the lights. [47:29.000 --> 47:34.000] It's the time your voice had a negotiation. And trying at least for a time. [47:34.000 --> 47:57.000] Watching the spots fly. [48:04.000 --> 48:08.000] All right, folks, we're back. Sorry we had a little technical difficulty over the break. [48:08.000 --> 48:13.000] We are taking your calls. We've got Susan from Texas. [48:13.000 --> 48:17.000] Susan, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? [48:17.000 --> 48:20.000] Thank you for taking my call. [48:20.000 --> 48:32.000] I tried to have recorded at the county courthouse an affidavit and judicial notice that was written by Mr. Craig. [48:32.000 --> 48:42.000] And the county clerk wrote me a letter back and said that based upon the nature and content of the document, [48:42.000 --> 48:56.000] that she had requested an opinion from the Potter County Attorney's Office and that they refused to record this document for me. [48:56.000 --> 49:08.000] She said it was the Texas Attorney General's opinion that this is a non-standard document and that it does not have to be filed. [49:08.000 --> 49:11.000] I just wanted to say about that. [49:11.000 --> 49:14.000] Who did you try to file it with? [49:14.000 --> 49:17.000] I tried to file it with the county clerk. [49:17.000 --> 49:21.000] In a case or with the county recorder? [49:21.000 --> 49:23.000] With the county recorder. [49:23.000 --> 49:29.000] Okay. The affidavit is meant to be filed in your case, not with the county recorder. [49:29.000 --> 49:33.000] Okay. I understand now. Okay. [49:33.000 --> 49:35.000] Okay. And they're right. [49:35.000 --> 49:41.000] They only have a list of certain documents they're required to file at the county clerk's office. [49:41.000 --> 49:52.000] But in the case of a trial, an affidavit can be filed by any party to the trial or as a witness or whatever that needs to be filed. [49:52.000 --> 49:56.000] It needs to be filed and they cannot bar you from doing that. [49:56.000 --> 49:57.000] Okay. [49:57.000 --> 50:01.000] So if you have an actual trial in progress, you file it there. [50:01.000 --> 50:05.000] There. Okay. Now I understand what's going on. [50:05.000 --> 50:07.000] All right. Well, thank you for your time. [50:07.000 --> 50:09.000] Yes, ma'am. You're very welcome. [50:09.000 --> 50:11.000] All right. Thanks, Susan. [50:11.000 --> 50:13.000] Okay. We've got another caller on the line, Mary from Texas. [50:13.000 --> 50:15.000] Mary, thanks for calling in. [50:15.000 --> 50:18.000] What is your question for us tonight? [50:18.000 --> 50:27.000] Oh, I just wanted to let everybody know that the jurisdictionary meeting is going on at Brave New Books tomorrow night from 7 to 9. [50:27.000 --> 50:29.000] I'll be getting there at 6. [50:29.000 --> 50:32.000] And we're just going to be going over different websites of interest. [50:32.000 --> 50:41.000] And then I'm going to start a newcomers meeting the first Tuesday of every month. [50:41.000 --> 50:44.000] And newcomers are always welcome to observe the meeting. [50:44.000 --> 50:49.000] But the grant is mostly a study grant for Fred Grayson's jurisdictionary. [50:49.000 --> 50:51.000] And I just want to thank you, Eddie, for all the work you're doing. [50:51.000 --> 51:02.000] I'm really interested in tackling the state bar and getting them to operate properly so they can protect people. [51:02.000 --> 51:10.000] Debbie, I appreciate all the work you're doing and just calling in to say thank you guys and keep it up. [51:10.000 --> 51:11.000] Thanks, Mary. Appreciate it. [51:11.000 --> 51:12.000] Okay. Thanks, Mary. [51:12.000 --> 51:14.000] I'd like to comment on that. [51:14.000 --> 51:18.000] Mary, there is no way for the state bar to operate properly. [51:18.000 --> 51:19.000] There isn't. [51:19.000 --> 51:26.000] The state bar on its face is absolutely patently illegal under the Texas Constitution. [51:26.000 --> 51:32.000] It says so right in the Constitution that we cannot have monopolies in the state of Texas. [51:32.000 --> 51:33.000] Okay. [51:33.000 --> 51:36.000] They are absolutely forbidden. [51:36.000 --> 51:39.000] And I'll show you exactly what we're talking about here. [51:39.000 --> 51:40.000] Okay. [51:40.000 --> 51:46.000] We go into the Texas Constitution and we search for monopoly. [51:46.000 --> 51:49.000] You come up under, one, the Bill of Rights. [51:49.000 --> 51:51.000] And I'll show you specifically. [51:51.000 --> 51:58.000] Section 26 of Article 1, perpetuities and monopolies, primogeniture or entailments. [51:58.000 --> 52:07.000] Perpetuities and monopolies are contrary to the genius of a free government and shall never, never be allowed. [52:07.000 --> 52:13.000] Nor shall the law of primogeniture or entailments ever be enforced in this state. [52:13.000 --> 52:19.000] Now, let's see what the legislature did for themselves. [52:19.000 --> 52:20.000] Okay. [52:20.000 --> 52:22.000] They enacted this. [52:22.000 --> 52:31.000] If you go down into Section 20 of, let's see, what specific article is this we're dealing with here? [52:31.000 --> 52:34.000] Article 16, Section 20 of Article 16. [52:34.000 --> 52:41.000] Let's see the other monopoly besides the state bar that the legislature created for themselves. [52:41.000 --> 52:48.000] Mixed alcoholic beverages, intoxicating liquors, wines, regulation, local option. [52:48.000 --> 52:59.000] A, the legislature shall have the power to enact a mixed beverage law regulating the sale of mixed alcoholic beverages on a local option election basis. [52:59.000 --> 53:08.000] The legislature shall also have the power to regulate the manufacture, sale, possession, and transportation of intoxicating liquors, [53:08.000 --> 53:17.000] including the power to establish a state monopoly on the sale of distilled liquors. [53:17.000 --> 53:26.000] Now, which part of the Bill of Rights did these morons not understand when it said shall never be allowed? [53:26.000 --> 53:32.000] That's two things now that they've managed to violate directly out of the Bill of Rights, [53:32.000 --> 53:37.000] one in Chapter 81 of the Government Code with the enactment of the State Bar Association, [53:37.000 --> 53:43.000] and right here in the Constitution itself with the enactment of Section 20. [53:43.000 --> 53:44.000] Okay. [53:44.000 --> 53:52.000] Now, you will find that many of these amendments have progressed through areas. [53:52.000 --> 53:58.000] This particular amendment was changed in 1919. [53:58.000 --> 53:59.000] Okay. [53:59.000 --> 54:02.000] Which preceded what? [54:02.000 --> 54:05.000] Prohibition. [54:05.000 --> 54:07.000] Okay. [54:07.000 --> 54:13.000] So, as you can see, they don't pay attention to what we the people told them they can or cannot do. [54:13.000 --> 54:16.000] They just do what they want. [54:16.000 --> 54:18.000] And we're still letting them do it. [54:18.000 --> 54:22.000] We really need to get off the sofas, people. [54:22.000 --> 54:25.000] We really need to turn off the TV set. [54:25.000 --> 54:28.000] It's not doing you any good, believe me. [54:28.000 --> 54:29.000] Okay. [54:29.000 --> 54:34.000] If you want to know why you don't have hours in the day to accomplish anything [54:34.000 --> 54:43.000] or to provide yourself with the information that you listen to us for, those would be the reasons why. [54:43.000 --> 54:49.000] Because you're filling up time with worthless fluff that is doing nothing to improve your mind. [54:49.000 --> 54:51.000] It's not making you more knowledgeable. [54:51.000 --> 54:55.000] It's not giving you any real facts of what's going on in the world. [54:55.000 --> 54:59.000] And it's most assuredly not telling you the truth about anything. [54:59.000 --> 55:03.000] It's corrupting your children. [55:03.000 --> 55:11.000] And if you think it's not, look at the moral values they're going to have as adults based upon what they see, [55:11.000 --> 55:18.000] we accept being popped into our living rooms through this idiot box. [55:18.000 --> 55:20.000] And they look at that and go, oh, well, it must be okay. [55:20.000 --> 55:24.000] It's on TV. [55:24.000 --> 55:26.000] Get out of the stupor, people. [55:26.000 --> 55:27.000] Come on. [55:27.000 --> 55:30.000] Wake up. [55:30.000 --> 55:33.000] So thank you, Mary, for all the kudos and everything. [55:33.000 --> 55:36.000] But they can't operate properly. [55:36.000 --> 55:37.000] It's impossible. [55:37.000 --> 55:41.000] It is a constitutional impossibility. [55:41.000 --> 55:45.000] Can't do it. [55:45.000 --> 55:46.000] Thanks, Mary. [55:46.000 --> 55:48.000] Yeah, I appreciate what you're doing, Eddie. [55:48.000 --> 55:49.000] All right, thanks, ma'am. [55:49.000 --> 55:50.000] Appreciate it. [55:50.000 --> 55:52.000] Okay, you have a good night. [55:52.000 --> 55:55.000] And just to help, folks, they're right. [55:55.000 --> 55:57.000] They're having a jurisdictionary study group. [55:57.000 --> 55:59.000] Get up and go. [55:59.000 --> 56:03.000] Start one in your own town if you're not accessible to Austin to go to this one. [56:03.000 --> 56:07.000] Start getting your friends and neighbors to ask questions. [56:07.000 --> 56:10.000] Give them some questions and see if they can answer them. [56:10.000 --> 56:12.000] Make them think for once. [56:12.000 --> 56:14.000] Make yourself think for once. [56:14.000 --> 56:18.000] Get out there and get involved. [56:18.000 --> 56:20.000] This will not solve itself. [56:20.000 --> 56:21.000] I've said it before. [56:21.000 --> 56:25.000] The Constitution has no voice if it's not us. [56:25.000 --> 56:26.000] It has no feet. [56:26.000 --> 56:27.000] It has no hands. [56:27.000 --> 56:34.000] It has no capacity to achieve its own ends without us. [56:34.000 --> 56:37.000] Yes, and I also will say that your purchase of jurisdictionary through [56:37.000 --> 56:42.000] Rule of Law Radio does help support this network and this radio show. [56:42.000 --> 56:47.000] And so we very much appreciate folks getting jurisdictionary. 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[01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:30.000] Mike, thanks for calling in. [01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.000] What's your question tonight? [01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.000] Hello. [01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:38.000] I've got a question regarding Freedom of Information Act request. [01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:44.000] I've got a little bit of a tangle where... [01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.000] Are you talking Freedom of Information Act or are you talking open records request? [01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:49.000] Well, that's what we're trying to determine. [01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:50.000] I know who this is. [01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:51.000] This is Mike from Texas. [01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:54.000] I had the pleasure of meeting Mike at Brand New Books the other night. [01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:59.000] This is the gentleman that's called in about the water bottle and the TSA thing, [01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:04.000] and the city of Austin is trying to prosecute him for interfering with TSA. [01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:09.000] And they said that they don't have the audio tapes and all these kinds of things. [01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:12.000] He's trying to get the audio tapes concerning it. [01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:18.000] And what Mike is telling me about these audio tapes now is that they don't want to release them [01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.000] because of national security. [01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.000] However, in the most recent email that I got from Mike, [01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:29.000] it says that he was asking me if he should FOIA them or what. [01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:34.000] And I said, well, yeah, because TSA is a federal entity. [01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:35.000] They're a federal agency. [01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:37.000] So, yeah, it would be FOIA. [01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:41.000] And however, he writes me back and says, [01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:48.000] Austin Police Department control the audio video recording in the TSA sterile zone. [01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:56.000] So this is very confusing to me because how does the Austin police... [01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.000] I mean, I've got a lot of questions about this. [01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:04.000] I want to know how the Austin Police Department has the authority to set up [01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:10.000] law enforcement recording in this situation, [01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.000] and what do they have to do with TSA anyway? [01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.000] TSA is a federal entity. [01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:19.000] And so I guess there's questions who has... [01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:24.000] If the Austin Police Department is doing the audio and video recording, [01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:28.000] they're the ones that are going to have the tapes [01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:33.000] because according to copyright laws, whoever records it owns it. [01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:39.000] All right, and so you wouldn't use FOIA to get it out of the Austin Police Department. [01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.000] And what I'm trying to figure out here... [01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.000] Also, I have other questions for you, Mike. [01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.000] Who is telling you they can't release the tapes because of national security? [01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.000] Is it the police department? [01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:55.000] No, it's the city prosecutor, David Peterson. [01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:59.000] Okay, so since when does the municipal police department [01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:06.000] and the municipal prosecutor have anything to do with national security anyway? [01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:08.000] Well, that's what they're claiming. [01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:13.000] I guess to the best of my knowledge, my understanding is that the city of Austin [01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:20.000] owns Austin Berkston International Airport, and they lease that area to TSA. [01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:27.000] But Austin Police Department owns and controls the video recording. [01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.000] They're the law enforcement authority for the property [01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.000] because it's not ceded to the federal government. [01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:33.000] That's valid. [01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.000] Okay, but what's the deal with them? [01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.000] Okay, the city prosecutor is saying that who's not going to release the tapes? [01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:46.000] I mean, the city prosecutor doesn't have any authority over the tapes. [01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:51.000] What class of crime are they attempting to charge you with? [01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:58.000] Well, originally it was circumvention TSA screening. [01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:02.000] And so they've dropped those charges and they've recharged me again. [01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:07.000] And I believe for this reason, there was a court order for them to produce audio [01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:11.000] video within a certain timeframe, at least 10 days before trial. [01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.000] And so they were in facing some contempt of court charges [01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.000] because they only produced half of that. [01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.000] They produced some video, no audio. [01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.000] Who did, TSA? [01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:28.000] No, the prosecutor's office. [01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:35.000] The city judge gave a court order to the city prosecutor to provide audio video [01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:37.000] at least 10 days before trial. [01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:40.000] They only provided video, but only at eight days. [01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:47.000] And originally it was they said that there was a massive audio malfunction, [01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.000] that it was not available. [01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.000] All the way through the entire system? [01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.000] Through the entire system. [01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:58.000] Both the police body mics or shoulder mics, TSA dispatch, Austin dispatch, [01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:03.000] all the audio recording above the area. [01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:06.000] And then there's probably other stuff that I'm not aware of. [01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:09.000] Right, they're saying everything failed all at the same time, [01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.000] just as you were going through security. [01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.000] All that part I remember from the previous conversations, [01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.000] but my question still has not been answered. [01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.000] What class of crime are they attempting to charge you with? [01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:22.000] Felony, Class A, Class B, or Class C? [01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.000] Class C misdemeanor. [01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.000] And now the new charges, they dropped the original charges, [01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:33.000] and now I'm being charged with, they haven't officially charged me yet. [01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:34.000] They're trying to. [01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:38.000] So they won't be able to, they need to have someone swear out a complaint. [01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.000] They won't be able to do that until tomorrow. [01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:46.000] But the new charge is supposed to be interfering with TSA investigation, [01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:52.000] and specifically they're going to say that I distracted the TSA agent, [01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.000] and I'm trying to figure out how I did that. [01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.000] The only thing, you know, I complied exactly with their commands. [01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:00.000] She's running to me, she's hanging on top of her lungs about a water bottle. [01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.000] You know, I kind of, you know, I'm letting my hands move a little bit, [01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.000] and she's 30 feet away saying, take it, take it, take the bottle of water. [01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.000] And so they're probably going to, they won't show the audio, [01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.000] they won't, because that would say I complied, they won't say how unreasonable it was. [01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:19.000] They won't show the audio because it would also say that I passed through a checkpoint [01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:21.000] that she had cleared me through and passed me out. [01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.000] So everything after that is a crime. [01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.000] Okay, but wait a minute, wait a minute. [01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.000] But still, Eddie's question hasn't gotten answered yet. [01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.000] Yeah, it was. [01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.000] He said it's a Class C misdemeanor. [01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:35.000] If they actually try to charge him, that's what he's saying. [01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.000] He thinks they're going to charge him with. [01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:40.000] But he also said they haven't actually charged you yet. [01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.000] Right now, both, I think I've upset some people, [01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:48.000] both the head city prosecutor and head city judge are kind of in the middle of all this, [01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:52.000] really doing their best to try to charge me with something. [01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:57.000] Are they charging you under a state law or under a city ordinance or do you know yet? [01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.000] City ordinance. [01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:06.000] Okay, well, how do they get a criminal action of one of the people out of a city ordinance? [01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.000] Well, yeah, we discussed that at Brave New Books the other night too, [01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:13.000] that city ordinance is only applied to city employees. [01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:16.000] Now, here's the other issue. [01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:22.000] Okay, all right. [01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:31.000] Have you filed a motion to compel and a motion for a contempt hearing upon the prosecutor? [01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:34.000] I filed several motions to compel, [01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.000] a motion to compel why the prosecution is not in contempt, [01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:41.000] and then I filed several motions of sanctions, [01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:44.000] and that really got their attention when I went to their prosecutor's office [01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:48.000] and had them sign for it directly, and then that day all this stuff happened. [01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:54.000] They just said, holy cow, you know, we're maybe facing contempt or they just really decided to, [01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:58.000] but all I was trying to do is light a fire and say just produce the audio and we're done. [01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:01.000] Well, see, there's other issues now. [01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:05.000] They dropped the original charges, okay, so the case is over. [01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:11.000] The prior case is done, all right, and there's not even a new case started yet, [01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.000] so I have questions concerning how is he going to file motions to compel [01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.000] or produce anything when there's not even a case right now? [01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:24.000] Well, the thing is it's not done if the judge hasn't dismissed the action. [01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.000] Did the judge dismiss the action, Mike, the first one? [01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:33.000] The head judge, Ms. McGee, has dismissed the action. [01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:38.000] Okay, so this is how they're going to avoid having to be compelled then? [01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:39.000] Right. [01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.000] Because there is no ongoing trial. [01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:42.000] Right. [01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:45.000] Well, if they charge him again, there will be and the whole thing will start up all over again. [01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:47.000] Well, then he has to file again. [01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:48.000] Okay, now here's the deal. [01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:52.000] Most likely what's going to happen is they're going to switch judges on you, [01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.000] and this one's going to be told do not allow discovery. [01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:57.000] Yeah. [01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.000] Okay. [01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:02.000] You need to be prepared for that. [01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:08.000] You need to be prepared to file sanctions against the judge for denial of due process, [01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:13.000] perpetrating fraud upon the court by the prosecuting attorney, [01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:17.000] perpetrating fraud upon the court multiple ways in fact. [01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:24.000] One, trying to charge you under an ordinance which by Constitution cannot possibly apply to you. [01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:38.000] Two, committing or perpetrating fraud by trying to put you in a classification in which you already knew it couldn't be applied to you. [01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:39.000] Okay? [01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:42.000] They're really digging themselves a very deep hole. [01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:47.000] Yeah, and then there's the other issue concerning that when you try to get the audio tapes again, [01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:55.000] if they pull this excuse again about national security, you're going to have to be prepared to file motions over that [01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:02.000] and maybe even criminal charges because the city has no authority whatsoever to make any decisions [01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:08.000] or to withhold any information at all based on national security, their municipality. [01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.000] It's a municipal entity. [01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:16.000] There is another thing you need to be aware of here, and you need to do this immediately. [01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:22.000] They can charge you later after they have destroyed these tapes. [01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.000] Be aware of that. [01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:27.000] They have up to two years to do this. [01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:33.000] But if there's no charges pending and they erase the tapes and then they decide to charge you, [01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.000] oops, what evidence do you have? [01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.000] None. [01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:43.000] And they've got witness testimony that will say anything they want them to say. [01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.000] You're hosed. [01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:46.000] Absolutely. [01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:51.000] So what about him filing an injunction to have the tapes preserved? [01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:57.000] You need to file suit and demand discovery of those materials right now. [01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.000] Well, I'll tell you what else he needs to sue over. [01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:02.000] Here's another cause of action that Mike told me about at Brave New Books. [01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000] He lost his job over this. [01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:10.000] He was at the airport that day on the way to a job interview, and he missed his flight over this nonsense, [01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.000] and it caused him to lose the job. [01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:18.000] And so I told him that that is definitely a cause of action he needs to sue over that. [01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:24.000] And so in that lawsuit, you definitely could file for discovery to demand these audio tapes as well, [01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:28.000] make it all one big lawsuit with multiple causes of action. [01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:35.000] Well, I've got a FOIA request through the attorney general's office. [01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:36.000] Well, wait a minute. [01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000] FOIA has nothing to do with state records. [01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.000] FOIA is only federal. [01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.000] And I have an open records request with the city. [01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.000] Okay, you use open records for both. [01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.000] FOIA is only federal. [01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:50.000] Okay. [01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.000] FOIA only applies to federal. [01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:53.000] Hang on the line, Mike. [01:16:53.000 --> 01:17:00.000] We'll be right back. [01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:06.000] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy, [01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:09.000] and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with. [01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:12.000] Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then. [01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:13.000] Brave New Books? [01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:14.000] Yes. [01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:19.000] Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, [01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:20.000] and G. Edward Griffin. [01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.000] They even stock Interfood, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps. [01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:26.000] There's no way a place like that exists. [01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.000] Go check it out for yourself. [01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:32.000] It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT. [01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:36.000] By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there. [01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:42.000] Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility [01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:44.000] just behind the bookstore. [01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.000] It does exist, but when are they open? [01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:52.000] Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 9 PM, and 1 to 6 PM on Sundays. [01:17:52.000 --> 01:18:00.000] So give them a call at 512-480-2503, or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com. [01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:16.000] Okay, we're back. [01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:21.000] All right, Mike, Eddie and I are going to go into this a little bit. [01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:26.000] We're concerned on the break that if you mess around and not handle this properly, [01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:31.000] you're going to get yourself really screwed over bad because what's happening, [01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:33.000] and I feel that they're doing this on purpose, [01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:39.000] the reason they dropped the first charges is to allow themselves a period of time [01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:45.000] before charging you with an additional crime so that they can delete the tapes and erase the tapes. [01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:49.000] And so the judge has already dismissed the action against you, [01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.000] so now they're in the clear they could erase the tapes, [01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:55.000] and there's nothing you can do about it unless you file lawsuits. [01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:58.000] And they may already have, hopefully they have not. [01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:02.000] What we're discussing on the break is that you have got to sue them immediately [01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:09.000] and get your discovery in right away, your request for discovery, [01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:14.000] and I would say even a temporary restraining order action to keep them from destroying the tapes [01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:19.000] and your causes of action that you're going to be suing under our number one [01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:24.000] tortious interference of a contract because you were on the way to a job interview. [01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:30.000] Technically it wasn't a contract yet because you hadn't secured the gig at the job. [01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:35.000] However, there was a contract in place that you both agreed to have this interview [01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:41.000] and have the job interview in the first place, so that was a contract. [01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:47.000] And also, Eddie was telling me on the break that there's a cause of action for expectation. [01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:53.000] You fully expected to get this job, and the other causes of action are unlawful imprisonment, [01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:55.000] and Eddie has some more cause of action. [01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:56.000] It's false imprisonment. [01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.000] Unlawful is if they have you locked up in a penal facility. [01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.000] I misquoted that when I stated to you. [01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:01.000] Okay. [01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:02.000] It's false imprisonment. [01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.000] False imprisonment. [01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:08.000] So, Mike, you need to get your dictionary course if you don't have it already yet [01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.000] and you need to put yourself together a lawsuit immediately against these people [01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.000] so that you can prevent them from destroying these tapes. [01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:18.000] And I told you that at Brand New Books the other night, [01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:22.000] you need to sue because they interfered with your job interview. [01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.000] Yeah, do be aware. [01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:28.000] You must file a tort letter with the city immediately. [01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:32.000] You've only got, in most cities, 60 days. [01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:34.000] Okay. [01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:35.000] Okay. [01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:36.000] So I file it with the city. [01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.000] Do I file it with the clerk of court? [01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:39.000] No. [01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:41.000] No, that's not the city. [01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:46.000] You send a copy of it to the mayor and a copy of it to the city manager. [01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.000] Yeah, you're going to be suing the city. [01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:49.000] Okay. [01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:54.000] Okay, and make sure it is sent, certified mail, return receipt requested. [01:20:54.000 --> 01:21:01.000] Every single document you send to anyone either needs to be stamped by that individual [01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:06.000] or you need a certified mail, return receipt requested, receipt for it. [01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:10.000] Don't ever send it without verification of some kind. [01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:11.000] Okay. [01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.000] Yeah, and you know what? [01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.000] It seems to me like this could be used if you could get... [01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:23.000] This lawsuit here in my book is the key because what is the deal with these city ordinances [01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:27.000] regarding you can't interfere with TSA? [01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.000] TSA is a federal agency. [01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:36.000] Since when does local law enforcement or a municipality at all have the authority [01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:42.000] to require we the people to comply with a federal agency? [01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.000] I mean, that's similar to what Richard Mack sued over. [01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:53.000] That's a completely unconstitutional city ordinance there. [01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:54.000] They can't... [01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:59.000] A municipality can't force us to comply with federal entities. [01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:00.000] It's ridiculous. [01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:01.000] Well, just a note. [01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:02.000] They can... [01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:09.000] If the state adopts the law, then they can have you enforce through the state provisions [01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:13.000] of the law as long as the law could be lawfully applied to you to begin with. [01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:19.000] In this particular case, however, this alleged law is not a law, [01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:21.000] and it cannot be applied to the public. [01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:22.000] Right. [01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.000] It simply cannot be applied. [01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:24.000] Right. [01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:27.000] Well, that was my point because it's not a state law. [01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.000] Well, I have something in... [01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.000] There's two things I wanted to ask quickly. [01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:37.000] I have something in file, a judicial notice pursuant under 201D, [01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:39.000] Texas and Federal Rules of Evidence. [01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:44.000] Basically, I'm demanding a dismissal unless they... [01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:47.000] partially because the state stands unrepresented. [01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:48.000] They don't have oaths. [01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.000] The prosecutors don't have oaths. [01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:53.000] But there's another one I'm also submitting where I'm demanding, [01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:57.000] and I gave them three days notice under Texas law, [01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:04.000] to provide the evidence and the charges for the cases dismissed. [01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.000] Okay. [01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:06.000] Wait a minute. [01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:07.000] This doesn't make sense to me, Mike. [01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:11.000] You said the case was already dismissed, and there's not a case right now. [01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.000] So what cause number... [01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.000] What case number are you filing these documents under? [01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.000] There's no case right now. [01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.000] Well, they do have a new cause number for me, [01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:22.000] but they just haven't generated a complaint yet. [01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:23.000] Well, now, wait a minute. [01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:24.000] That can't happen. [01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.000] That's right. [01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.000] There can't be a cause without a complaint. [01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.000] The complaint, the criminal complaint, [01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:35.000] the sworn, signed, affidavit criminal complaint is what begins the case. [01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.000] They can't start a prosecution without a criminal complaint. [01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:40.000] Yeah, they don't. [01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:44.000] I'm looking right now at the cause number right now. [01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:46.000] Okay, have you gone down to look at the court record [01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.000] to see if they've got a new complaint in there? [01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:52.000] No, they won't have it until tomorrow. [01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:53.000] Well, then you... [01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:54.000] All right, that's fine. [01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:55.000] You hang on to that document. [01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.000] Does it have a date stamp on it? [01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:58.000] Yes. [01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.000] Okay, you hang on to that document, [01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:04.000] because you're going after the city attorney for barritory. [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.000] There's your other cause of action. [01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:08.000] Absolutely, because they started a case [01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.000] before there was a criminal complaint. [01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:11.000] That's illegal. [01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:12.000] Okay. [01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:18.000] Now, the other problem this comes down to is this proves fraud [01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:24.000] and collusion by the prosecution with the accuser. [01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:25.000] Yes, absolutely. [01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.000] This proves the prosecutor is conspiring [01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:31.000] with some other government official to do you harm. [01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:32.000] Absolutely. [01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.000] Well, this would be the head judge, McGee, [01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:38.000] and this would be the head prosecutor, Beltson. [01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:39.000] That's fine. [01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.000] You make asses out of them instead of head anything. [01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:50.000] Okay, because I've got all their signatures on those documents. [01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:52.000] They have a severe problem. [01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.000] They have a very big problem. [01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:55.000] Here's the other thing. [01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:57.000] As soon as you check your court records, [01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:02.000] you get a copy certified by the clerk of the court [01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:07.000] of what you are currently looking at and of the complaint, [01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:11.000] and you check the dates on everything carefully. [01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:14.000] Make sure that they don't change the date stamp, [01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:17.000] because you've already got a certain document or certain documents, [01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:19.000] and when you go and pull the file again, [01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.000] make sure they haven't changed the date stamp, [01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.000] because if they change the date stamp, [01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:27.000] oh, boy, you have even more ammunition against them. [01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:28.000] And here's the other thing. [01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:35.000] If they backdate the complaint, they have falsified a document. [01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:37.000] Well, they've already done that to me at pretrial, [01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:40.000] where they provided a false complaint. [01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:42.000] They had one clerk square out against another, [01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:43.000] and they just says, believe. [01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:46.000] So even on that statement right there, it's about a complaint, [01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:48.000] but they provided that to me at trial, [01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:53.000] but I checked the website, and they then post-stated the document, [01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:58.000] and then even after pretrial, then they finally put it into the system. [01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.000] Well, no, no, that's not what we're talking about. [01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:04.000] We're talking about the clerk of the court. [01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:07.000] When documents are filed with the clerk, [01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.000] see, websites and all these kinds of things, [01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:10.000] none of that really matters, okay? [01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:11.000] Okay. [01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:17.000] What matters is the stamp by the clerk of the court on the paper, okay? [01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:19.000] That's what we're talking about. [01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:26.000] That is the official date stamp of when that document was filed with the court, okay? [01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:31.000] And so what we're saying is that you've got pieces of paper from the court records [01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:36.000] with certain date stamps on them that are date stamped by the clerk of the court. [01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:38.000] Usually the clerk of the court has to initial as well, [01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:44.000] or it may have the clerk of the court's name on the stamp or something like that, okay? [01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.000] Usually there's a little line where they initial, okay? [01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.000] And then there's the date, all right? [01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:53.000] What we're saying is that when you go tomorrow to pull your file, again, [01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:59.000] get a copy of everything in the file and look closely at the date stamps [01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:03.000] of the documents in there and compare with the date stamps [01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:08.000] of the documents you already have, you know, concerning the same documents, [01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:13.000] and if they have changed the date stamp of the clerk of the court's date stamp, [01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:19.000] then you've got huge ammunition against the clerk of the court, against the court in general. [01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:20.000] Okay. [01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.000] Okay? [01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:26.000] So first things first, you need to get that tort letter off to the city manager [01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:31.000] and the mayor's office immediately notifying them that you intend to sue [01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:39.000] if they don't cough up these audio tapes and that, you know, basically you can, [01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:43.000] you know, tort letters can be, you don't have to write up specific statutes [01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:45.000] and all these kinds of things. [01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:50.000] It's just a notice to sue and why and what you want from them and that you want, [01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.000] you want them to make sure those audio tapes are not destroyed [01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:57.000] and that you intend to get them, and that's the first things first. [01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.000] You need to get your dictionary if you don't already have it [01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:02.000] and start cooking up your lawsuit against them anyway, [01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:08.000] mainly for tortious interference of a contract because they caused you to miss, [01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.000] they caused you to violate your contract, [01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:15.000] which was that you contracted with this company or this entity [01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:18.000] for an interview at a specific date and time. [01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.000] That was a contract that you made and they interfered with that contract, [01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:27.000] plus they interfered with the expectation of a second contract to get the job, all right, [01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:31.000] and the false imprisonment like Eddie was saying and the other things. [01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:34.000] So you need to start cooking up that lawsuit, send the tort letter, [01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:37.000] go tomorrow and get a copy of everything in the file. [01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:38.000] Okay. [01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:39.000] Yeah, actually it was two jobs. [01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:43.000] I had effectively two offers at the same time, which is very rare, [01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.000] and I ended up losing both of them. [01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:47.000] Okay, so then that's two separate causes of action. [01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.000] There you go because it's two separate contracts. [01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.000] I just wanted to add, how do they get the authority to use TSA? [01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:57.000] What Austin is saying right, or the prosecutor is saying right now, [01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:03.000] is that they have to get TSA's approval to release these tapes. [01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:04.000] No, they don't. [01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:05.000] No, they don't. [01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:07.000] They don't have any law enforcement authority. [01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:08.000] They most certainly do not. [01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:10.000] They absolutely do not. [01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:13.000] That is a lie on many, many levels. [01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:20.000] They are the ones who are controlling the equipment of the audio and video recording. [01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:23.000] It belongs to them according to copyright law. [01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:25.000] That's just all there is to it. [01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:27.000] Well, remember, these are public records. [01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:29.000] There won't be copyright law on them. [01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:30.000] That will not apply in this case. [01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:36.000] However, since they are the law enforcement authority in charge of the security equipment there, [01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:37.000] it is their record. [01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:38.000] Absolutely. [01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:39.000] There's no question about it. [01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:41.000] And you would not use FOIA for that. [01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:47.000] That would be open records laws and also discovery. [01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:50.000] And you don't use FOIA unless it's federal. [01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:54.000] And I don't know if the attorney general is going to have anything to do with this [01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:58.000] because the attorney general is the defense attorney for public officials in Texas. [01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:01.000] We'll be right back. [01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:32.000] One Love Kitchen, Austin, Texas. [01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:36.000] Have you ever fed your family cornflakes or sent your kid off to school with a juice box? [01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:37.000] If so, look out. [01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:40.000] You might be sending them off to a lifetime of health problems. 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[01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:49.000] The life you save may be your child's. [01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:50.000] This is Dr. Katherine Albrecht. [01:31:50.000 --> 01:32:11.000] More news and information at KatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:14.000] Okay, folks, we're back. [01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:21.000] Okay, so Mike, listen, regarding the copyright thing, yeah, [01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:25.000] it's a public entity, they don't have copyright. [01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:29.000] What I really meant was the fact that since they recorded it, [01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:34.000] they control the access to it, okay, but not under copyright. [01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:37.000] I misspoke when I said the copyright laws apply. [01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:42.000] However, the bottom line other than that, as Eddie was saying, [01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:48.000] is that since they are the law enforcement entity that has authority [01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:53.000] over that property, it's a municipal piece of property, [01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:58.000] APD does have authority to be the security agency there, if you will, [01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.000] the security company. [01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:04.000] They don't have to get permission from any other entity, [01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:07.000] especially a federal entity, to release those tapes. [01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:09.000] That's totally ridiculous, okay? [01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:16.000] That's a lame excuse, so just don't buy into that. [01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:19.000] But the main thing is right now you need to get a copy of the file [01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.000] and send out that tort letter. [01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:22.000] Okay. [01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:26.000] Well, I guess, you know, what I've done is the letter from the prosecutor [01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:30.000] I sent from email I copied and pasted and sent it to the head judge, [01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:34.000] who signed off and everything, just to notify her of what's going on, [01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:37.000] and it kind of puts her in a bind that she has to respond. [01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:38.000] Wait a minute, wait a minute. [01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:42.000] What did you notify the judge via email regarding? [01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:49.000] Well, when the prosecutor, when some city prosecutor notified me [01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:53.000] that he wouldn't provide any audio, and the main judge that dismissed [01:33:53.000 --> 01:34:01.000] and then will also reanimate this case on a new case number or cause number, [01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:06.000] I notified her that the prosecutor would not provide the audio. [01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:11.000] I would suggest that it's not such a good idea to try to communicate [01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:15.000] with judges like that over email, because for one thing, [01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:21.000] that can be construed as an attempt at an ex parte communication with the court, [01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:25.000] and that is not allowed, and sometimes it can really upset the judges too. [01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:30.000] Plus, any communication like that is not going to be part of the court record. [01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:36.000] What you would do in that situation is you would file a judicial notice [01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:41.000] with the clerk of the court in the case stating the facts at hand [01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:43.000] and not send an email. [01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:46.000] Okay. [01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.000] You can always file an affidavit in your case stating this was ordered, [01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:52.000] it's not been done. [01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:56.000] I'm also filing this affidavit in support of a motion to compel [01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:03.000] and a motion for sanctions and a motion for contempt hearing upon the prosecution. [01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:09.000] Everything you do in these cases needs to be done through the clerk of the court [01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.000] with official stamps on everything you file. [01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:18.000] Either you go down there to the clerk of the court with the papers in hand, [01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.000] submit with two copies or ask them to copy it, [01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:26.000] and you get a stamped copy back at that point in time. [01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:32.000] You file affidavits, you file judicial notices when you want to send communications [01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.000] to the judge and stuff like that. [01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.000] Or you send anything you want to file with the clerk of the court, [01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.000] you mail it to the clerk of the court, [01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:46.000] certified mail with return receipt requested with the green card. [01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:51.000] You have to have everything documented, certified, [01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:54.000] that these were documents that were filed with the court [01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:59.000] because anything informal like that, it has no bearing on the case whatsoever. [01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:02.000] It's not going to help you at all, and if anything, it can only hurt you. [01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:04.000] Okay. I won't do that again. [01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:08.000] What I have been doing is copying the emails and putting in the notices [01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:14.000] and then having those stamped by the clerk of the court. [01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.000] Wait, wait, wait, what emails? [01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.000] Has the prosecutor been emailing you? [01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:21.000] Yeah, the head prosecutor has been emailing me back [01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:26.000] saying that the audio is not available to, you know, originally. [01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:30.000] And they had to come out to say that because originally they said it didn't exist, [01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:35.000] but then the head information officer at the airport said that it did exist. [01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:39.000] He was going to write a letter to the attorney general [01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:42.000] petitioning them not to provide that information to me. [01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:44.000] Do you have a copy of that letter? [01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:48.000] Yes, I had all that submitted into the clerk of the court, [01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:53.000] and I sent it off, certified letter, early last week. [01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:58.000] Yeah, all that informal communication that came to you through the prosecutor, [01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:05.000] the prosecutor's emails, letters from the head saying that they didn't have the tapes [01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.000] and then they did have the tapes, all these discrepancies, [01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:11.000] you definitely always file those in the case with the clerk of the court. [01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:16.000] Right now they have a real issue of losing all my motions, [01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:18.000] so they've lost at least seven of them. [01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:21.000] That's why you get copies, files stamped. [01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:24.000] I do if I have copies that are stamped, [01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:29.000] and that's the only reason that I'm able to even get these things put back in again. [01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:32.000] Now, here's the deal. [01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:36.000] Why is the clerk of the court, whose duty it is to keep those records under safekeeping, [01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:40.000] losing records, file criminal complaints against the clerk of the court [01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:42.000] for failure to do their job? [01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.000] Absolutely, and see, when you're dealing with the court system, [01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:49.000] like say at the county level or at the state level, [01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:54.000] like the state district court or the county court or federal courts, [01:37:54.000 --> 01:38:01.000] it's enough to just mail the stuff in certified mail with the return receipt green card. [01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:04.000] They generally do not mess around, [01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:08.000] especially since you've got the green card that proves that you filed, [01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:10.000] well, it proves you filed something with the court. [01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:13.000] It doesn't prove what exactly you sent the court. [01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:16.000] You know, you could have sent the court a hate letter, who knows? [01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:22.000] I mean, the only way to prove what was in the envelope is to mail it through a notary [01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:26.000] and have the notary verify the contents of the envelope. [01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.000] Okay, but the notary mailing is generally not necessary [01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.000] unless you're dealing, you know, with like the IRS or something. [01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:39.000] Okay, but generally when you're dealing with the state courts [01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.000] or the county courts or the federal courts, everything I've heard, [01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:45.000] it's always been my experience, you just mail the stuff in, [01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.000] certified mail, return receipt requested, [01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.000] and there's never a problem with losing the documents. [01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:55.000] But the municipal court system is so corrupt that they will pull anything. [01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:59.000] And so whenever I'm dealing with the municipal courts, I tell everybody, [01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:01.000] when you're dealing with the municipal courts, don't mail anything. [01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.000] Go down there with two copies. [01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:09.000] Give them both copies and make the clerk stamp both copies and give you back one copy. [01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:11.000] That's the only way to deal with these people. [01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:13.000] Yes, that's how I've been doing it. [01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.000] And they've lost about 20 percent of my motion. [01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:19.000] That's their problem, especially that's the clerk of the court's problem [01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:22.000] because if you've got file stamped copies of everything, [01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:26.000] then you can file criminal charges against them for sure. [01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:31.000] What you need to be doing is the moment you go to the clerk of the court [01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:36.000] and you ask them, where are the court's copies of these records? [01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:40.000] And the clerk goes, I don't know. [01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:45.000] You need to be calling security and you need to be calling the sheriff's department. [01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:48.000] And you need to record that because you can bring, [01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:53.000] they don't like you to bring recording devices into the courtroom itself, [01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:57.000] but you can have like your iPhone [01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:02.000] or whatever little digital recording device in your pocket [01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:08.000] or you can get one of these camera pens that are popular these days. [01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:14.000] Never talk to these people without recording everything and preferably with video. [01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:17.000] And so every time you go down there, have your little digipen, [01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:20.000] digipen, whatever they call it, have it going. [01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:25.000] It's in your pocket, it's videotaping and recording audio at the same time [01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.000] and it's facing the person you're talking to. [01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:33.000] And when they say, I don't know, now you've got evidence against them [01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:36.000] that they just committed a crime. [01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.000] Okay. [01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:44.000] I usually go down every day with about three or four motions. [01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:47.000] I've submitted about 70 so far. [01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:50.000] Just make sure you keep your copies in safekeeping. [01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:54.000] And then you ask the clerk each time you go file new ones, [01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:59.000] demand the clerk produce copies of, or produce the record for all the others. [01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:04.000] If any of them are missing, be certain to ask the clerk where are they. [01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.000] When the clerk says, I don't know, that's a problem. [01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:10.000] They destroy them immediately. [01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:13.000] They shred them and so the only thing they have is electronic. [01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:16.000] If they're shredding file documents in an ongoing cause, [01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:18.000] they are really up the creek. [01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:19.000] Absolutely. [01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:22.000] And if they're doing it as an ongoing policy, [01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:26.000] then that's cause for a class action lawsuit right there. [01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:28.000] It's ongoing policy. [01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.000] I've been told by several clerk records that... [01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.000] You need to record them saying that. [01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:34.000] Please tell me you're taking your recorder in there and getting them... [01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:37.000] You need to record them, you need to ask, [01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:41.000] bring your recorder and ask them if it's an ongoing policy. [01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:45.000] You need to record them saying yes, it's an ongoing policy [01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:50.000] and ask them for their name and get them to state their name verbally on the video. [01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:53.000] About four or five clerk records have already told me that. [01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:57.000] All right, well then you need to do it again and this time get it recorded. [01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:58.000] This is ridiculous. [01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:06.000] Also ask them what law are they relying on to give them the authority to destroy filings, [01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:12.000] original filings in an ongoing case. [01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:17.000] Tell them what to tell you or show you what law authorizes them to do that [01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:21.000] because I promise you it doesn't exist. [01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.000] I don't think it does either. [01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:27.000] Now at the federal level, they've gone to electronic filing system [01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:33.000] and the court tells everyone, well if you're an attorney, [01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:36.000] you have to file electronically, have to. [01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:39.000] If you're pro se litigant in the federal court system, [01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:43.000] you can apply to the court and get court permission to file electronically. [01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000] Most of the time they won't let you, [01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.000] but they still have to take your original documents. [01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:52.000] Now whether or not they destroy the original documents [01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:55.000] and just scan them in and then destroy them, [01:42:55.000 --> 01:43:00.000] I don't know because most of the federal filings I've ever dealt with are in places very far away, [01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:06.000] so I haven't had the wherewithal to travel to the physical court itself [01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:09.000] and demand the file to see if my original documents were in there or not, [01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:16.000] but the point being they do have some statutory authority in that situation [01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:18.000] to deal with an electronic filing system, [01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:21.000] but I don't know anything like that at the municipal level. [01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:25.000] Like I said, these guys are just doing whatever they want. [01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:27.000] Yeah, that's pretty much. [01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:30.000] I mean if they want to scan stuff electronically [01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:35.000] and store them in addition to the physical paper files, [01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.000] that's probably okay, [01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:44.000] but for them to destroy the original file documents, that's not okay. [01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:45.000] Absolutely not okay. [01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:47.000] You've got to get them on tape saying that. [01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:48.000] Okay. [01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:49.000] All right. [01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:50.000] Anything else, Mike? [01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:51.000] That's all. [01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:52.000] Thank you. [01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:53.000] Okay. [01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:54.000] Thanks, Mike. [01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:55.000] Thank you. [01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:56.000] All right. [01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:57.000] We'll be right back after the break. [01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:07.000] This has been The Rule of Law. 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[01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.000] Pat, if you'd like to call back in, we'll take your call next. [01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:40.000] We've got Elizabeth from Texas on the line right now. [01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:41.000] Elizabeth, thanks for calling in. [01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:44.000] What is on your mind tonight? [01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:45.000] Hi, there. [01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:47.000] Thanks for taking my call. [01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:53.000] Y'all have had David Champion on before, haven't you, about the income tax? [01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:56.000] Yes, we had him on a month or so ago. [01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:58.000] Yeah, that's what I thought. [01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:04.000] Have you had Tom Cryer on yet from Truth Attack? [01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:07.000] No, I have not, but I do want to have him on at some point in time. [01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:10.000] Tom Cryer, he's the man. [01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:18.000] He won a very landmark lawsuit against the IRS, and I would love to have him on to discuss that. [01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:20.000] Wonderful. [01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:24.000] Well, I would like to help you do that, if that's at all possible. [01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:31.000] I suggested to him that y'all need to be trading off on each other's shows. [01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:37.000] He does a show also, and the three of you guys are so great. [01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:45.000] Y'all need to be on his venue also to get this word out, in my opinion anyway, [01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:52.000] and I've suggested that to him when he was here in Austin. [01:46:52.000 --> 01:47:00.000] So what I wanted to tell you guys, but this is a follow-up to 9-11 [01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:06.000] and the discussion that you guys had that I heard over the weekend on a replay. [01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:16.000] When I met Tom Cryer, he explained that they were really looking for the ideal case [01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:22.000] to have what he was calling a brother-in-law type of a lawsuit [01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:31.000] where they had an employer who was willing to go to court [01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:39.000] and wanting to refuse to withhold on their employee's paychecks, [01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:46.000] and they needed an employee who was working for that same employer who was willing to sue [01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:51.000] to demand that his withholding not be withheld. [01:47:51.000 --> 01:48:01.000] And I thought that that was kind of a perfect thing that could help out with the situation with NIST and 9-11 [01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:05.000] because nothing can seem to move forward at this point. [01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:13.000] And I can see the possibility that the folks who were directly affected, [01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:20.000] and everybody keeps making it the families of people who were killed, [01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:23.000] and this is really an American thing. [01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.000] It happened to everybody. [01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:32.000] But the people who were directly affected may have to pick up the ball and run with it [01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:43.000] and sue under a similar brother-in-law type of a lawsuit the architects who built the building [01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:47.000] and say, how could you possibly build a building that fell down? [01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:57.000] And then with the pain of power can go in and get what you need from NIST and perhaps everybody else. [01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:00.000] Well, yes, that's an excellent idea, and we did discuss that on Friday. [01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:01.000] However, it requires... [01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:02.000] I missed that. [01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:03.000] Sorry. [01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:04.000] Yes. [01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:07.000] Were you listening to Friday's show? [01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:08.000] Yes, but just a part of it. [01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:09.000] I didn't get the whole thing. [01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:10.000] Okay. [01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:14.000] We discussed, yes, we mostly started getting into discussing the legal remedies in Hour 4, [01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:17.000] and yes, we did discuss that as a possible remedy. [01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:21.000] However, and I think we discussed it earlier in the show, too. [01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:28.000] However, that will require the willingness on the part of people who were injured [01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:34.000] from the collapse of Building 7, not just in 9-11 in general. [01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:35.000] It will require... [01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:40.000] In order to have standing for that kind of lawsuit and for that kind of discovery, [01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:44.000] and actually it wouldn't be subpoena, it would be through court-ordered discovery. [01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:47.000] Subpoenas are generally only in criminal cases. [01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:52.000] But in order to have standing to demand of the court or attempt to demand of the court, [01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:57.000] that is that level of discovery, somebody would have had to have lost a family member [01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:03.000] in the collapse of Building 7, or they would have had to have been injured from the collapse of Building 7, [01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:10.000] or they would have had to have property that was damaged or destroyed from the collapse of Building 7 specifically. [01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:17.000] Now, the remedy that we discussed in Hour 4 was FOIA. [01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:21.000] Okay, and if you would go back and listen to that, I was doing research on FOIA [01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:27.000] while Derek was presenting his very technical explanations during Hour 2 and 3. [01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:37.000] And they are giving Ron Brookman, NIST is giving Ron Brookman this lame excuse of public safety or something, [01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:42.000] that they can't release these documents because of public safety. [01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:43.000] That was the part I good. [01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:45.000] Okay, I'm sorry? [01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:46.000] That was the part I understood. [01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:47.000] Okay, right. [01:50:47.000 --> 01:51:00.000] But the problem is under FOIA, NIST has nine lawful exemptions that they can claim to deny a request. [01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:04.000] And public safety is not one of them. [01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:09.000] There are nine statutory exemptions that they can claim. [01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:15.000] Number one is classified documents and the legal explanation of classified documents, [01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:23.000] it says specifically that it has to be designated as a classified document under executive order [01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:25.000] by the President of the United States. [01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:31.000] So Bush, which too late for him, but Obama would have to step in [01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:37.000] and sign an executive order classifying the documents that they're looking for, [01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:41.000] which is basically the finite element analysis files and the blueprints, [01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:45.000] the design for the structure building seven, that has not happened yet. [01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:51.000] Somehow I don't think Obama is going to put his neck out on the line that far for this. [01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:53.000] All right, if he did, it would really surprise me. [01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.000] So they have to be either classified documents by presidential executive order, [01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:00.000] they have to be internal agency rules, that does not apply. [01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:05.000] They have to be information exempted by another federal statute, that does not apply. [01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:11.000] Confidential business information does not apply, internal government communications, no. [01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:13.000] Personal privacy, no. [01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:15.000] Law enforcement, no. [01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.000] Financial institutional records, no. [01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:19.000] Geological information, no. [01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:24.000] None of the nine statutory exemptions under FOIA apply in this situation. [01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:27.000] They have not claimed any of these statutory exemptions. [01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:34.000] So what needs to happen now, and under FOIA, see FOIA is a civil rights statute. [01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:39.000] It's kind of like the consumer protection laws of the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act [01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:41.000] and the Fair Credit Reporting Act. [01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.000] Now as a libertarian, I really don't believe in civil rights, [01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:51.000] because civil rights are statutorily given, quote unquote, rights, if you will. [01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:54.000] And I do not believe that any piece of paper or any statute [01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:57.000] or even the Constitution itself gives us our rights. [01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:59.000] All right, but we have to use what we have to use. [01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:03.000] And basically I just consider them as consumer protection laws. [01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:06.000] All right, or civil protection laws. [01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:09.000] But at any rate, FOIA is basically a civil rights statute. [01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:18.000] And so we claim there is an administrative procedure that is designated under FOIA. [01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:25.000] There is an, you have to, at this point, Ron needs to file an appeal with NIST. [01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:28.000] They have to go through this administrative procedure. [01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:35.000] And if he doesn't get what he wants, then he can appeal to a federal district court. [01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:40.000] It says if the appeal is denied, he can file a judicial appeal for judicial review [01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:44.000] in the U.S. District Court where he lives, the district courts where the documents are located, [01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:46.000] or in the District of Columbia. [01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:49.000] So he's got to go through the administrative remedy process first. [01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:52.000] And if that doesn't work, then he can file a judicial appeal. [01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:54.000] If that doesn't work, then he can sue. [01:53:54.000 --> 01:54:01.000] Okay, and so I say that FOIA, we need to do everything under FOIA [01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.000] because this is a very strong law. [01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:05.000] It carries a lot of power. [01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:07.000] And let's bring the lefties into this. [01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:12.000] I mean, no offense intended for those out there who are more leftist leaning politically. [01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:18.000] But hey, where is the left jumping, why isn't the left jumping up and down [01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:19.000] and screaming about the Federal Reserve? [01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:21.000] Because that's a private central bank. [01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:26.000] Okay, so I say let's call on the power of the left and organizations like the ACLU [01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:32.000] over this FOIA issue because in general, the courts do not mess around with FOIA. [01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:34.000] Okay, it doesn't matter what it is. [01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:42.000] They will not touch FOIA because if they overturn FOIA, it's going to cause madness. [01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:44.000] It's going to cause chaos. [01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:49.000] The court system is not going to overturn decades of jurisprudence over FOIA. [01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:53.000] I think that what's going to happen is that, and Derek and I already discussed this, [01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:58.000] that if Ron doesn't have the time or the resources or the ability [01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:01.000] or the wherewithal to pursue the FOIA remedies, [01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:06.000] then Derek is just going to FOIA these same exact records himself [01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:09.000] and when they give him the same lame excuse, [01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.000] then he and I are just going to work on this together. [01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:14.000] And worst case scenario, I'll FOIA the records myself [01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:16.000] and take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to. [01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:22.000] I'm not messing around because these documents that Derek and his colleagues need [01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:29.000] is what is going to blow the whole 9-11 truth thing wide open on the map. [01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:33.000] It will prove once and for all that Building 7 was taken down by controlled demolition. [01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:37.000] We'll have everything we need and once we've totally exposed Building 7, [01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:42.000] then we'll be able to take the next step of totally exposing World Trade Centers 1 and 2 [01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:46.000] because it was such a similar situation with the pools of the molten metal and everything. [01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:52.000] So that's our plan as of now dealing with these FOIA records. [01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:55.000] So does that make sense there, Elizabeth? [01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.000] It does. [01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:00.000] I kind of like the shotgun approach. [01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:10.000] I was wondering why not take a lawsuit forward. [01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:13.000] But of course I realize that it's going to take. [01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:14.000] What kind of lawsuit? [01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:21.000] Directly affected by the building. [01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.000] They would have to be people directed directly by the building. [01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:29.000] And also another issue, another reason that the families of the victims of 9-11 [01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:34.000] have not filed massive lawsuits and some of them have is because they took a payoff [01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:39.000] at the beginning from the federal government, a chump change payoff if you ask me [01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:42.000] because they had no other choice of just a few hundred thousand dollars [01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:47.000] and they had to sign non-disclosure agreements [01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:52.000] and they had to sign waivers saying that by taking this payoff and taking this settlement, [01:56:52.000 --> 01:57:00.000] they waived their right to ever sue the federal government again for their losses due to 9-11. [01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:05.000] And the people that did not sign those waivers and that did not take the payoff, [01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:10.000] they have been absolutely stonewalled in court by one particular judge [01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:15.000] and I can't remember the judge's name, but it was the same judge that was stonewalling [01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:24.000] We Are Change and NYC-CAN when NYC-CAN was putting together a ballot initiative [01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:29.000] for the city of New York itself to do its own investigation. [01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:35.000] So there are very few victims of 9-11 left. [01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:41.000] Hellerstein, okay thanks, Jerry just Skyped me. [01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:48.000] Judge Hellerstein is a federal judge that has absolutely stonewalled all of the families [01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:53.000] who have tried to sue the federal government over 9-11 and all of the rest, [01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:58.000] I would say a large majority of the rest took the payoff in the beginning so they can't sue. [01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:03.000] And so I think that they've already tried to pursue that as best they can. [01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:08.000] But see right now, FOIA is the way to go because it doesn't take a lot of people. [01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:11.000] Nobody has to have any special standing. [01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:14.000] In fact, hey, you like the shotgun approach? Let's all do it. [01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:22.000] How about we all FOIA-nist for these documents and we'll have hundreds of people suing under FOIA. [01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:24.000] I think that's a great idea. Thanks, Elizabeth. [01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:26.000] Thank you. [01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:28.000] Okay, we're at the end of the show. [01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:30.000] This has been the rule of law. [01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.000] Folks, we'll be back on Thursday night. [01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:34.000] Make sure you support our sponsors. [01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:36.000] Get the traffic seminar tomorrow night. [01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:38.000] I am in well report with Tom Kiley. [01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:44.000] I can't wait to hear the update from Tom about how the big 9-11 conference went in New York City this past weekend. [01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:49.000] Of course, Agenda 21 Talk at 8 p.m. Central Time on Wednesday nights. [01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:52.000] We have Richard Reeves with Outside of the Box Politics. [01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:57.000] And of course, our brand new show Free Mind Report at 8 p.m. on Wednesday nights. [01:58:57.000 --> 01:59:24.000] See y'all next time, folks. 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