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[00:04.320 --> 00:08.000]  Former Cuban president Fidel Castro has said for the first time
[00:08.000 --> 00:11.520]  the Cuban revolution persecuted gays in its early years.
[00:11.520 --> 00:16.480]  In the 1960s and 70s thousands of homosexuals were sent to forced labor camps
[00:16.480 --> 00:20.920]  without trial. In 1979 homosexuality was decriminalized
[00:20.920 --> 00:24.840]  and more recently there have been efforts to legalize same-sex unions.
[00:24.840 --> 00:28.800]  Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair
[00:28.800 --> 00:32.600]  praises George Bush in his new memoir. Blair wrote
[00:32.600 --> 00:36.760]  I was asked which of the political leaders I had met had most integrity.
[00:36.760 --> 00:40.600]  I listed George near the top in what was a fairly liberal audience.
[00:40.600 --> 00:44.360]  Some people were aghast, others tittered thinking I was joking.
[00:44.360 --> 00:48.960]  But I meant it. He had genuine integrity and as much political courage as any
[00:48.960 --> 00:50.200]  leader I ever met.
[00:50.200 --> 00:53.600]  In Maputo, Mozambique
[00:53.600 --> 00:58.080]  clashes have broken out between police and protesters riled by rising food
[00:58.080 --> 00:58.720]  prices.
[00:58.720 --> 01:01.880]  Police shot six protesters including one boy.
[01:01.880 --> 01:06.640]  The price of bread has risen 30 percent this year following droughts in Eastern Europe.
[01:06.640 --> 01:12.040]  While most Americans have struggled to make ends meet during the recession
[01:12.040 --> 01:14.760]  some members of Congress have actually grown richer.
[01:14.760 --> 01:18.640]  According to the congressional newspaper The Hill, the collective net worth of the
[01:18.640 --> 01:20.720]  50 richest members of the Congress
[01:20.720 --> 01:24.480]  was at least 1.4 billion dollars in 2009
[01:24.480 --> 01:28.560]  up more than 85 million from the year before. Made up of 30 house
[01:28.560 --> 01:30.120]  members and 20 senators
[01:30.120 --> 01:34.600]  the list comprises 27 Democrats including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
[01:34.600 --> 01:38.600]  and 23 Republicans. Topping the list is Senator John Kerry
[01:38.600 --> 01:41.680]  who's declared net worth was 189 million
[01:41.680 --> 01:45.960]  an increase of 20 million over 2008. Kerry came under fire
[01:45.960 --> 01:49.240]  for avoiding taxes on his seven million dollar yacht.
[01:49.240 --> 01:52.640]  The environmental group Greenpeace
[01:52.640 --> 01:57.000]  claims to have halted offshore drilling by a British oil company in the Arctic
[01:57.000 --> 02:00.040]  after four climbers occupied the rig Tuesday.
[02:00.040 --> 02:03.960]  Greenpeace said the four protesters invaded a small flotilla
[02:03.960 --> 02:08.200]  of armed Danish Navy and police boats in Baffin Bay off Greenland
[02:08.200 --> 02:11.640]  guarding the rig since the Greenpeace ship Esperanza
[02:11.640 --> 02:16.280]  arrived last week. The rigs are operated by the oil exploration company Can Energy
[02:16.280 --> 02:20.160]  which prompted worldwide alarm amongst environmentalists
[02:20.160 --> 02:24.160]  after disclosing it had found the first evidence of oil or gas deposits
[02:24.160 --> 02:27.920]  under the Arctic. Several oil giants including Exxon
[02:27.920 --> 02:31.400]  Chevron and Shell are waiting for permission from Greenland
[02:31.400 --> 02:35.280]  to begin deep sea drilling in the Arctic's pristine waters.
[02:35.280 --> 02:38.600]  Campaigners claim this has led to a dangerous rush
[02:38.600 --> 02:42.080]  to exploit one of the world's last major untapped reserves
[02:42.080 --> 02:46.240]  in one of its most fragile locations. The US Geological Survey
[02:46.240 --> 02:49.280]  estimates there may be 90 billion barrels of oil
[02:49.280 --> 02:56.280]  and 50 trillion cubic meters of gas across the Arctic.
[03:19.480 --> 03:23.480]  BAD BOYS!
[03:23.480 --> 03:24.480]  BAD BOYS!
[03:24.480 --> 03:29.480]  Whatcha gonna do?
[03:29.480 --> 03:34.480]  When the mission is unbroken for you?
[03:34.480 --> 03:35.480]  Tell me!
[03:35.480 --> 03:37.480]  Whatcha gonna do?
[03:37.480 --> 03:40.480]  Whatcha gonna do?
[03:42.480 --> 03:43.480]  BAD BOYS!
[03:43.480 --> 03:44.480]  BAD BOYS!
[03:44.480 --> 03:45.480]  Whatcha gonna do?
[03:45.480 --> 03:48.480]  Whatcha gonna do when you come for you?
[03:48.480 --> 03:53.480]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:53.480 --> 03:59.480]  When you were eight and you had bad trees You'd go to school and learn the golden rules
[03:59.480 --> 04:04.480]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool? If you get high then you must get cool
[04:04.480 --> 04:09.480]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:09.480 --> 04:15.480]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:15.480 --> 04:18.480]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one,
[04:18.480 --> 04:21.480]  You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father
[04:21.480 --> 04:23.480]  You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister
[04:23.480 --> 04:26.480]  You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me
[04:26.480 --> 04:32.480]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:32.480 --> 04:37.480]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:37.480 --> 04:43.480]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:43.480 --> 04:58.000]  Alright, we're not giving you any break either.
[04:58.000 --> 04:59.000]  Not even your idren.
[04:59.000 --> 05:03.760]  That means your brothers and sisters, your brethren and sister, give you no break.
[05:03.760 --> 05:08.120]  And here at the rule of law, we're not going to give you any break either, bad boys and
[05:08.120 --> 05:15.440]  bad girls, because you are the ones who are destroying our country, taking away our freedoms
[05:15.440 --> 05:21.640]  and liberties bit by bit, and we're not going to put up with it anymore.
[05:21.640 --> 05:26.720]  We're having a lot of success going after these rogue public officials.
[05:26.720 --> 05:29.800]  Here at the rule of law, our listeners are having a lot of success, Randy's having a
[05:29.800 --> 05:37.560]  lot of success going after these banksters, dealing with these corrupt mortgage industry.
[05:37.560 --> 05:41.280]  And tonight is September 9th, Thursday, September 9th.
[05:41.280 --> 05:45.640]  We've got Eddie in the house, Randy in the house.
[05:45.640 --> 05:52.160]  And tonight we are going to talk about this, speaking of rogues, the ADL.
[05:52.160 --> 05:59.080]  The ADL has just released a report dated August 9th, titled The Lawless Ones, the Resurgence
[05:59.080 --> 06:02.480]  of the Sovereign Citizen Movement.
[06:02.480 --> 06:07.680]  And Eddie and I have gotten multiple emails from folks wanting us to discuss this issue.
[06:07.680 --> 06:12.160]  And Eddie, you have some comments, you've got something prepared that you want to mention
[06:12.160 --> 06:13.160]  about this.
[06:13.160 --> 06:18.320]  Well, I've been trying to go through this report and read it, and the further into it
[06:18.320 --> 06:23.880]  I read, the angrier I get, simply because, let's take a minute for who we're talking
[06:23.880 --> 06:26.120]  on here, the Anti-Defamation League.
[06:26.120 --> 06:31.880]  For those of you that don't know, the term defamation means an intentional false communication
[06:31.880 --> 06:37.560]  either published or publicly spoken that injures another's reputation or good name.
[06:37.560 --> 06:46.800]  Now, this is the Anti-Defamation League, yet this report is full of nothing but false misleading,
[06:46.800 --> 06:52.640]  misrepresentative statements about everything it contains.
[06:52.640 --> 06:58.080]  So talk about being inappropriately named as far as a group goes.
[06:58.080 --> 07:02.000]  Nothing in this report is anything but defamatory.
[07:02.000 --> 07:08.880]  It's all intended to cast aspersions and put everyone in a bad light that is trying to
[07:08.880 --> 07:14.080]  reclaim the rights that the government is rapidly trying to steal away from us.
[07:14.080 --> 07:21.720]  They criminalize, they make derogatory statements and inferences.
[07:21.720 --> 07:29.440]  They basically state that anyone that declares themselves a sovereign citizen is in fact
[07:29.440 --> 07:31.880]  simply by that inference a criminal.
[07:31.880 --> 07:36.160]  Yeah, and they also say that it means we're anti-government.
[07:36.160 --> 07:43.120]  It says the sovereign citizen movement is a group of people who are anti-government.
[07:43.120 --> 07:45.240]  They label us as anti-government.
[07:45.240 --> 07:46.240]  It says here-
[07:46.240 --> 07:48.840]  And not just that, white supremacists.
[07:48.840 --> 07:55.440]  That too, and then they talk about the growth of the Moorish population where some of the
[07:55.440 --> 07:59.480]  African-American community are coming in, and right here it says the sovereign citizen
[07:59.480 --> 08:04.820]  movement is an extreme anti-government movement whose members believe the government has no
[08:04.820 --> 08:06.240]  authority over them.
[08:06.240 --> 08:10.640]  I have never said anything like that on the air or in private, I might add, and neither
[08:10.640 --> 08:12.680]  has Randy nor Eddie.
[08:12.680 --> 08:15.120]  We are not anti-government.
[08:15.120 --> 08:19.440]  We want the government officials, public servants, to follow the law.
[08:19.440 --> 08:25.080]  That's all, and I think it's pretty much the same with these other so-called sovereign
[08:25.080 --> 08:26.080]  citizens.
[08:26.080 --> 08:29.040]  They've called out Team Law, they've called out Tim Turner.
[08:29.040 --> 08:32.400]  Now I have my doubts about Tim Turner.
[08:32.400 --> 08:38.400]  Randy and I kind of think that he's likely a fed, him and Sam Kennedy, and I don't mind
[08:38.400 --> 08:43.520]  saying that on the air because that's been said on the air before, but I don't know about
[08:43.520 --> 08:45.640]  the Team Law folks.
[08:45.640 --> 08:48.240]  They're just trying to get their land patents.
[08:48.240 --> 08:50.040]  They called out the Tea Party movement.
[08:50.040 --> 08:54.940]  I mean, the Tea Party movement is not anti-government.
[08:54.940 --> 09:00.760]  They want to put in good people into government like Rand Paul and Ron Paul.
[09:00.760 --> 09:07.680]  They're anything but anti-government, and I might mention concerning the defamation
[09:07.680 --> 09:12.880]  and the lies, I was not necessarily going to go here, but I am now because Eddie is
[09:12.880 --> 09:15.800]  talking about it, and it's appropriate.
[09:15.800 --> 09:22.200]  They've called out certain law enforcement and former law enforcement public servants
[09:22.200 --> 09:26.040]  who have been indicted for this, that, or the other thing, or been fined for this, that,
[09:26.040 --> 09:31.440]  or the other thing, and they called out our very own Raymond Frank in this report.
[09:31.440 --> 09:36.760]  On page 14, they lied about Raymond Frank, who's one of my best friends in the world.
[09:36.760 --> 09:37.760]  I love him.
[09:37.760 --> 09:40.920]  He is a total patriot, a total Christian.
[09:40.920 --> 09:43.480]  He's got a heart of gold, all right?
[09:43.480 --> 09:48.880]  He has done more for his country and more for the community than anybody else I know.
[09:48.880 --> 09:50.440]  He's a Vietnam veteran.
[09:50.440 --> 09:51.560]  He was in the Air Force.
[09:51.560 --> 09:54.560]  He flew hundreds of missions.
[09:54.560 --> 09:55.560]  He served his country.
[09:55.560 --> 10:03.040]  He was sheriff here in Travis County in the 70s, and he hosted the micro for a while back
[10:03.040 --> 10:06.200]  in 07, 08.
[10:06.200 --> 10:11.680]  Here's what the ADL says about Raymond Frank on page 14.
[10:11.680 --> 10:16.400]  Westlake Hills, Texas, November 2009, a former Travis County sheriff, Raymond Frank, was
[10:16.400 --> 10:21.720]  ordered by the FCC to stop running a pirate radio station from his home in Westlake Hills.
[10:21.720 --> 10:27.920]  Frank had claimed that because he was a citizen of the, quote, Republic of Texas, end quote,
[10:27.920 --> 10:31.760]  the FCC and the United States government had no jurisdiction over him.
[10:31.760 --> 10:33.040]  He was fined $10,000.
[10:33.040 --> 10:35.920]  This is a total lie.
[10:35.920 --> 10:39.360]  You want to talk about defamation, slander, and libel?
[10:39.360 --> 10:40.360]  Come on.
[10:40.360 --> 10:48.760]  Look, Randy and I were paralegals to assist Raymond when he was writing the documents,
[10:48.760 --> 10:54.440]  when all this was going down with the FCC, and Randy and I went over all of Raymond's
[10:54.440 --> 10:55.440]  documents.
[10:55.440 --> 11:01.960]  He never said anything in any of those documents that he was a citizen of the Republic of Texas,
[11:01.960 --> 11:05.440]  and therefore the FCC and the United States government had no jurisdiction over him.
[11:05.440 --> 11:08.200]  That is a total lie, and I'll tell you where it came from.
[11:08.200 --> 11:14.760]  It came from KXAN because KXAN did a hit piece on Raymond Frank and made up this crap.
[11:14.760 --> 11:21.680]  They just made it up, and ultimately that stemmed from the forfeiture order that got
[11:21.680 --> 11:28.520]  handed down by Dennis Carlton, who said basically this, and Raymond Frank never said that in
[11:28.520 --> 11:29.520]  any of his documents.
[11:29.520 --> 11:34.720]  I mean, I'm telling you what, if this keeps up, Raymond's going to have a good lawsuit
[11:34.720 --> 11:41.880]  on his hand to sue KXAN, to sue Dennis Carlton, and to sue the ADL for defamation.
[11:41.880 --> 11:42.880]  Give me a break.
[11:42.880 --> 11:47.280]  I'm sorry, but I am really upset about this, and so this just shows... I know from me,
[11:47.280 --> 11:53.280]  from personal experience, I know that that is a lie, and these documents are all public,
[11:53.280 --> 11:58.880]  by the way, that you can look them up on the FCC website, so me knowing that this one instance
[11:58.880 --> 12:05.920]  is a lie, then how much else of this crap in this ADL document is a lie?
[12:05.920 --> 12:09.280]  I would say probably almost all of it.
[12:09.280 --> 12:12.600]  I'm sorry, this has got me going.
[12:12.600 --> 12:16.680]  We're going to be next, because I'll tell you some other stuff that this ADL document
[12:16.680 --> 12:19.200]  goes off about.
[12:19.200 --> 12:26.280]  It starts slandering scamsers and con artists exploiting the mortgage foreclosure crisis.
[12:26.280 --> 12:31.160]  Here's what it says on page one, self-appointed gurus in the sovereign citizen movement have
[12:31.160 --> 12:36.420]  been actively exploiting the foreclosure crisis, criss-crossing the country, promoting schemes
[12:36.420 --> 12:41.400]  and scams to desperate homeowners, while falsely claiming that such schemes can save people's
[12:41.400 --> 12:42.400]  homes.
[12:42.400 --> 12:46.720]  Other sovereign citizens are even brazenly seizing homes left empty because of foreclosures
[12:46.720 --> 12:48.840]  and claiming the homes for their own.
[12:48.840 --> 12:52.800]  Okay, so Randy, we're next.
[12:52.800 --> 12:57.680]  I'm telling you, the ADL's called out Raymond Frank, the Southern Poverty Law Center has
[12:57.680 --> 13:03.280]  called out James Lane by name, who's a host on this network, so the shrapnel's starting
[13:03.280 --> 13:07.920]  to hit pretty close to home, but if that's the way it is, that's just the way it's going
[13:07.920 --> 13:09.440]  to be.
[13:09.440 --> 13:13.800]  The thing they have forgot to mention is that these shysters and scammers that are traveling
[13:13.800 --> 13:18.840]  all over and doing this just happen to be mortgage and foreclosure attorneys.
[13:18.840 --> 13:21.720]  It's not anybody associated with us.
[13:21.720 --> 13:26.560]  One of them has got 21 no answer defaults, yuck, yuck.
[13:26.560 --> 13:32.080]  Yeah, and also, Randy, how many foreclosures have you stopped so far?
[13:32.080 --> 13:34.000]  A couple hundred.
[13:34.000 --> 13:35.000]  About 200.
[13:35.000 --> 13:36.000]  Okay.
[13:36.000 --> 13:44.520]  I don't know if we stopped them, we sure put a kink in their armor and slowed them down.
[13:44.520 --> 13:47.480]  You know what I've heard about the Anti-Definite Mission League?
[13:47.480 --> 13:48.640]  What?
[13:48.640 --> 13:56.320]  That they're all homosexual pedophiles and communists, and you have to be a homosexual
[13:56.320 --> 14:00.720]  pedophile communist to even join the Anti-Definite Mission League.
[14:00.720 --> 14:01.720]  That's what I heard.
[14:01.720 --> 14:05.920]  Okay, Randy, they're definitely going to be calling you out now.
[14:05.920 --> 14:09.000]  I mean, this is just ridiculous, folks.
[14:09.000 --> 14:15.040]  I mean, this is just horrible, and the Southern Poverty Law Center is writing up policy for
[14:15.040 --> 14:19.920]  our law enforcement to follow, and the law enforcement entities are listening to this
[14:19.920 --> 14:26.760]  crap of the ADL and the Southern Poverty SPLC.
[14:26.760 --> 14:29.360]  I mean, this is ridiculous, folks.
[14:29.360 --> 14:33.320]  The problem with this kind of thing is it works.
[14:33.320 --> 14:34.320]  It works.
[14:34.320 --> 14:38.140]  I know, and it's all lies, and so the only thing that's going to stop it is lawsuits.
[14:38.140 --> 14:45.200]  People are going to have to start filing lawsuits when they are victims of libel and slander
[14:45.200 --> 14:49.880]  in this case, but I mean, when it comes to Raymond, I mean, it's going to be up to him.
[14:49.880 --> 14:53.640]  He's the one getting slandered, so if he wants to file a suit, that's going to be up to him,
[14:53.640 --> 15:01.680]  but I mean, this is... I'll tell you what, if they start writing lies about me, you know
[15:01.680 --> 15:03.400]  I'm going to file a lawsuit.
[15:03.400 --> 15:06.000]  Look, I would never tell those kind of stories.
[15:06.000 --> 15:10.640]  Even if they talk bad about me, I would never say on the air that I believe that they're
[15:10.640 --> 15:16.480]  all a bunch of nudist, pedophile, homosexual communists.
[15:16.480 --> 15:20.000]  I would never say that on the air because that's not the kind of guy I am.
[15:20.000 --> 15:21.000]  All right.
[15:21.000 --> 15:24.440]  Well, yeah, and they're talking about- I think you're giving them too much credit.
[15:24.440 --> 15:27.760]  I think they're a bunch of beast-loving individuals myself.
[15:27.760 --> 15:32.440]  Well, I had heard that, but I was trying to be delicate.
[15:32.440 --> 15:33.440]  Kind?
[15:33.440 --> 15:37.880]  Yes, and I didn't want to be slanderous and libelous.
[15:37.880 --> 15:38.880]  I can't be libelous.
[15:38.880 --> 15:43.400]  Well, as long as the proof is coming out, it means we'll let it all out.
[15:43.400 --> 15:48.520]  It's just what I heard, that they're... but I would never repeat things like they're a
[15:48.520 --> 15:54.320]  bunch of homosexual, nudist, communists.
[15:54.320 --> 15:55.880]  What else can we come up with?
[15:55.880 --> 16:02.960]  That people love to hear and would stick to them just because we said it, but more outrageous
[16:02.960 --> 16:05.920]  and nonsensical it is, the more it tends to stick.
[16:05.920 --> 16:11.000]  Well, just to finish up on this thing about Raymond, it says at the end here, he was fined
[16:11.000 --> 16:12.840]  $10,000, which is another lie.
[16:12.840 --> 16:15.720]  He was not fined a dime.
[16:15.720 --> 16:25.760]  It was a staff-level, an employee, staff-employee-level forfeiture order that was adopted by the FCC
[16:25.760 --> 16:27.600]  and nothing has come of it.
[16:27.600 --> 16:31.440]  The DOJ is not pursuing it, and Raymond hasn't paid a dime.
[16:31.440 --> 16:34.120]  I mean, the whole thing is just ridiculous.
[16:34.120 --> 16:40.240]  The way they worded it, they're trying to make it out because he said that the US government
[16:40.240 --> 16:45.200]  doesn't have authority over him, he got fined, and Raymond never said that anyway.
[16:45.200 --> 16:47.520]  I'm pretty upset about the whole thing, really.
[16:47.520 --> 16:53.480]  What do you expect from a bunch of... ADL, the All-Dupest Loser Team.
[16:53.480 --> 16:55.720]  Okay, we'll be right back after this.
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[18:25.040 --> 18:53.240]  Okay, we are back, folks, and I kind of ranted the whole time that first segment, and Eddie
[18:53.240 --> 18:58.600]  has some more ranting he would like to do, so go ahead, Eddie, rant on the ADL.
[18:58.600 --> 19:02.440]  Well, let's just take a couple excerpts out of this real quick, and let's show you the
[19:02.440 --> 19:06.760]  kind of crap that they're spilling out of their faces to try to convince others of so
[19:06.760 --> 19:12.080]  that folks will stop listening to shows like ours that are actually trying to put the truth
[19:12.080 --> 19:15.400]  in front of them, and this is the kind of thing they're saying.
[19:15.400 --> 19:17.880]  Let's see, potential for violence.
[19:17.880 --> 19:22.760]  Sovereign citizen criminal activity includes violent acts exemplified recently by the brutal
[19:22.760 --> 19:27.760]  murder of two West Memphis police officers at the hands of a father and son pair of sovereign
[19:27.760 --> 19:36.120]  citizens in May 2010, so they take the example of Jerry Kane and use that to exemplify the
[19:36.120 --> 19:43.040]  behavior of all of us, so by that method of measurement, shouldn't we take the behavior
[19:43.040 --> 19:50.200]  of any single crooked politician and apply that across the board to every one of them?
[19:50.200 --> 19:52.760]  If one's a crook, they're all a crook.
[19:52.760 --> 19:56.200]  If one's a moron, they're all a moron.
[19:56.200 --> 19:59.200]  I think it seems fair.
[19:59.200 --> 20:03.720]  Let's see, exploiting the mortgage foreclosure crisis.
[20:03.720 --> 20:06.240]  This is the one that Randy will like.
[20:06.240 --> 20:09.800]  Self-appointed gurus in the sovereign citizen movement have actively been exploiting the
[20:09.800 --> 20:15.360]  foreclosure crisis, crisscrossing the country, promoting schemes and scams to desperate homeowners
[20:15.360 --> 20:19.560]  while falsely claiming that such schemes can save people's homes.
[20:19.560 --> 20:25.000]  Other sovereign citizens are even brazenly seizing homes left empty because of foreclosures
[20:25.000 --> 20:28.600]  and claiming the homes for their own.
[20:28.600 --> 20:33.640]  What they're forgetting to clarify here is that the ones that seized these homes are
[20:33.640 --> 20:42.600]  the ones that were illegally removed by force from their own home through a fraudulent action
[20:42.600 --> 20:48.500]  of a foreclosure and who refused to leave because there was no order to leave.
[20:48.500 --> 20:52.720]  They were simply pushed out and locked out and so they went back in because there was
[20:52.720 --> 20:56.080]  no order keeping them out.
[20:56.080 --> 21:04.400]  And yet this is the kind of crap these people publish to cast aspersions upon everyone.
[21:04.400 --> 21:11.280]  Infecting prisons, as a result of imprisoned sovereign citizens continuing to recruit rather
[21:11.280 --> 21:18.480]  than simply spread the truth, we're recruiting now when we wind up with anybody in a prison
[21:18.480 --> 21:23.240]  we only go there to recruit and teach their ideology while behind bars.
[21:23.240 --> 21:28.140]  A growing number of federal and state prisoners are becoming sovereign citizens or using the
[21:28.140 --> 21:33.320]  paper terrorism tactics of the movement to retaliate against judges, prosecutors and
[21:33.320 --> 21:35.560]  others involved in their case.
[21:35.560 --> 21:39.440]  Prison officials seem to have had little luck in stemming the growth of this movement in
[21:39.440 --> 21:40.440]  prisons.
[21:40.440 --> 21:44.760]  Now, let's take a look at what attorneys do.
[21:44.760 --> 21:50.120]  They do nothing but file paper after paper after paper trying to harm or damage someone
[21:50.120 --> 21:51.320]  in a lawsuit.
[21:51.320 --> 21:57.600]  Why isn't that paper terrorism, especially when the suit's malicious and fraudulent?
[21:57.600 --> 22:03.880]  Why is it what the state does, paper terrorism, when it issues these traffic citations illegally
[22:03.880 --> 22:07.200]  to people to whom they have no bearing upon?
[22:07.200 --> 22:11.560]  Well speaking of paper terrorism, let me read what their definition of paper terrorism is
[22:11.560 --> 22:14.720]  here on page 16, Eddie.
[22:14.720 --> 22:18.000]  Sovereign citizen tactics, paper terrorism.
[22:18.000 --> 22:23.440]  The array of tactics that sovereign citizens utilize is diverse and ever changing.
[22:23.440 --> 22:27.680]  Some sovereign citizen tactics date all the way back to the 1970s while others are brand
[22:27.680 --> 22:28.680]  new.
[22:28.680 --> 22:34.040]  Sovereign citizen gurus probably read more statutes and codes than most attorneys or
[22:34.040 --> 22:39.720]  legal scholars, but they do so for entirely different reasons and in very different ways.
[22:39.720 --> 22:45.440]  Oh, okay, so now it's a bad thing to read statute and code, folks.
[22:45.440 --> 22:49.120]  Okay, back to the article or back to their publication.
[22:49.120 --> 22:56.120]  They look for passages they can misuse, recast, take out of context or exploit.
[22:56.120 --> 23:01.440]  Any phrase or definition can become fodder for a new pseudo legal argument.
[23:01.440 --> 23:06.040]  The most common sovereign citizen tactics fall into the realm of what has come to be
[23:06.040 --> 23:08.480]  termed paper terrorism.
[23:08.480 --> 23:13.240]  Paper terrorism involves the use of bogus legal documents and filings or the misuse
[23:13.240 --> 23:19.480]  of legitimate ones to intimidate, harass, threaten or retaliate against public officials,
[23:19.480 --> 23:22.520]  law enforcement officers or private citizens.
[23:22.520 --> 23:27.320]  Acts of paper terrorism can range from simple and straightforward acts such as frivolous
[23:27.320 --> 23:32.440]  lawsuits to more complex strategies such as filing fraudulent IRS forms alleging that
[23:32.440 --> 23:38.360]  the victim has been paid large sums of money in order to sick the IRS on him or her.
[23:38.360 --> 23:43.200]  And then later, and then it gives a bunch of examples about this and punishments that
[23:43.200 --> 23:48.080]  people have allegedly had to suffer as a result of paper terrorism.
[23:48.080 --> 23:52.520]  And again, I think every single one of these examples is skewed or just total fraudulent
[23:52.520 --> 23:59.240]  and made up BS lies because I know how they slanted and libeled Raymond.
[23:59.240 --> 24:03.240]  So other harassing attempts, here we go, this is on page 18.
[24:03.240 --> 24:08.320]  In addition to bogus liens, sovereign citizens have developed a large repertoire of tactics
[24:08.320 --> 24:13.520]  to intimidate, threaten, retaliate against people ranging from involuntary bankruptcy
[24:13.520 --> 24:21.440]  filings to a wide variety of threats and extortions to bogus criminal complaints.
[24:21.440 --> 24:22.560]  And then they give some examples.
[24:22.560 --> 24:27.800]  So all right, they've talked about filing bogus, what they call bogus criminal complaints,
[24:27.800 --> 24:35.120]  reading the laws, reading the statutes, filing, they even say filing legitimate, even filing
[24:35.120 --> 24:38.320]  legitimate documents in court.
[24:38.320 --> 24:41.800]  So Randy, how long do you think it, and then they talk about the mortgage stuff.
[24:41.800 --> 24:49.400]  So how long do you think it's going to be, Randy, before you're in this report?
[24:49.400 --> 24:52.320]  Well guys, take your best shot.
[24:52.320 --> 24:54.240]  Yeah, that's what I was going to say too.
[24:54.240 --> 24:57.520]  All right, sorry, Eddie, didn't mean to interrupt, but you were talking about the paper terrorism,
[24:57.520 --> 24:59.840]  so I wanted to go over that section.
[24:59.840 --> 25:03.000]  So go ahead, Eddie, what else you got for us?
[25:03.000 --> 25:07.840]  Well, it's all pertinent, believe it or not, that's exactly what we want to be talking
[25:07.840 --> 25:08.840]  about here.
[25:08.840 --> 25:14.480]  I mean, but when you go through this report, people, it is absolutely ludicrous the assertions
[25:14.480 --> 25:17.400]  they're making without any substantiation.
[25:17.400 --> 25:21.480]  They're talking about all the different things that certain individuals have done or certain
[25:21.480 --> 25:26.400]  groups have done, and they're trying to apply it across the board as if everyone that knows
[25:26.400 --> 25:32.000]  anything about this or is involved in anything about this has all done the same thing.
[25:32.000 --> 25:38.920]  They were all guilty by association rather than by the weight of evidence, okay?
[25:38.920 --> 25:44.680]  So when you see this or you hear about this, be sure to point that out to the people that
[25:44.680 --> 25:51.080]  are discussing it or bringing it up, that based upon what this asserts and the facts
[25:51.080 --> 25:57.400]  that aren't divulged, it's about as reliable as an election promise, okay?
[25:57.400 --> 25:59.240]  It just means nothing.
[25:59.240 --> 26:09.520]  Wait a minute, guys, I just had a thought, okay, don't shudder, don't shudder, I'm reminded
[26:09.520 --> 26:16.000]  of what P.T. Barnum said about advertisement about publicity.
[26:16.000 --> 26:19.360]  What, there's a politician born every minute?
[26:19.360 --> 26:22.640]  No, there is no bad publicity.
[26:22.640 --> 26:28.280]  These guys actually took the time to print it out, all of the things that we can do to
[26:28.280 --> 26:35.960]  kick these guys behind, and do they really think that the American public are such a
[26:35.960 --> 26:42.560]  bunch of morons that they won't listen to that and say, hmm, I think I could use some
[26:42.560 --> 26:43.560]  of that.
[26:43.560 --> 26:47.920]  Well, the problem is that they're skewing it, and the other problem is that these kinds
[26:47.920 --> 26:53.320]  of reports are used to set policy for law enforcement.
[26:53.320 --> 26:54.320]  That's a problem.
[26:54.320 --> 26:55.320]  Yeah.
[26:55.320 --> 27:03.920]  They have another problem, the American public is waking up and they are PO'd, the American
[27:03.920 --> 27:10.000]  public has been lied to on every turn and they're aware of it, and this is so outrageously
[27:10.000 --> 27:16.080]  blatant that I suspect it will do us more good than harm.
[27:16.080 --> 27:21.240]  Well there's, yeah, and just, I hope so, and I believe that, I actually do, I mean it's
[27:21.240 --> 27:27.920]  going to backfire, everything they do backfires, I mean it's getting pretty obvious here.
[27:27.920 --> 27:32.920]  Now one of the other points of this article is that they start talking about these fictitious
[27:32.920 --> 27:40.200]  law enforcement entities and it looks like they're trying to lump all that in with the
[27:40.200 --> 27:49.280]  militia and trying to demonize the militia movement, and so that's just more slander
[27:49.280 --> 27:51.320]  and defamation right there.
[27:51.320 --> 27:53.760]  I mean that's one place where I have to draw the line.
[27:53.760 --> 28:00.960]  I don't agree with, you know, there are some groups out there that make up their own common
[28:00.960 --> 28:09.560]  law court marshals to enforce the will of common law courts and all this kind of thing,
[28:09.560 --> 28:11.640]  and I can't go along with that.
[28:11.640 --> 28:12.640]  That has no foundation.
[28:12.640 --> 28:13.640]  Who's doing that?
[28:13.640 --> 28:18.320]  Well, there's people in Montana that are doing it and they're having shootouts with the feds
[28:18.320 --> 28:24.360]  over it too, but the problem with this document and with the Southern Poverty Law Center and
[28:24.360 --> 28:29.320]  the ADL is that they try to lump extremist groups like that that really don't know what
[28:29.320 --> 28:33.440]  they're doing and they're really off the mark and are not doing things lawfully.
[28:33.440 --> 28:37.160]  They try to lump that in with lawful peaceful militias.
[28:37.160 --> 28:38.160]  That's a problem.
[28:38.160 --> 28:39.160]  Think about it.
[28:39.160 --> 28:45.080]  If you're the government and you have these people who are taking action to try to stop
[28:45.080 --> 28:50.840]  you from doing the crapola you're doing, how would you stop it?
[28:50.840 --> 28:58.240]  You send your own people out there amongst these to amplify the most lunatic fringe.
[28:58.240 --> 29:01.680]  There's always a lunatic fringe.
[29:01.680 --> 29:09.720]  And use that lunatic fringe to discredit those who are doing the right thing.
[29:09.720 --> 29:10.720]  Absolutely.
[29:10.720 --> 29:16.080]  So, this sounds like the government sending their people out to do stupid idiotic nonsense
[29:16.080 --> 29:21.320]  stuff and then they can point at the stupid idiotic nonsense stuff and say, see?
[29:21.320 --> 29:23.640]  See what they're doing?
[29:23.640 --> 29:26.560]  But the public's getting too sophisticated.
[29:26.560 --> 29:31.160]  We've had too much of this nonsense crammed down our throat and the problem the government
[29:31.160 --> 29:35.200]  has is they don't figure it out that we're getting on to them.
[29:35.200 --> 29:38.480]  Well, who reads these ADL reports anyway?
[29:38.480 --> 29:42.480]  The normal American average Joe Blow is not going to read this.
[29:42.480 --> 29:45.240]  Again, it's the law enforcement.
[29:45.240 --> 29:48.520]  People who set policy for law enforcement is who reads this.
[29:48.520 --> 29:50.560]  And so we have to keep that in mind as well.
[29:50.560 --> 29:55.520]  But yeah, the people are not going to put up with this anymore.
[29:55.520 --> 29:56.520]  This is just ridiculous.
[29:56.520 --> 29:57.520]  All right, we'll be back.
[29:57.520 --> 30:01.360]  We've got a caller on the line.
[30:01.360 --> 30:04.800]  Top 10 reasons to question the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing.
[30:04.800 --> 30:07.080]  Reason number 10, what is on the surveillance tapes?
[30:07.080 --> 30:10.240]  There were many video surveillance cameras that recorded the morning of the bombing,
[30:10.240 --> 30:13.400]  yet the few of these that have been released do not show what transpired with the Ryder
[30:13.400 --> 30:15.120]  truck at the Murrah building.
[30:15.120 --> 30:17.960]  Most recently, the government has claimed that all of the cameras that were in different
[30:17.960 --> 30:21.320]  buildings and maintained by different businesses were all having their tapes changed at the
[30:21.320 --> 30:23.840]  exact same time, 9.02 a.m.
[30:23.840 --> 30:26.320]  This is insulting to the memory of those who perished in the bombing.
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[32:09.760 --> 32:10.760]  Okay folks.
[32:10.760 --> 32:11.760]  We're back.
[32:11.760 --> 32:12.760]  All right.
[32:12.760 --> 32:17.800]  Randy and Eddie and I, all three have more ranting to do on this ADL publication.
[32:17.800 --> 32:19.280]  Robert, we see you there.
[32:19.280 --> 32:21.600]  This is Hang Tight.
[32:21.600 --> 32:27.280]  One thing I was going to mention is that they're calling out the anti-incumbent movement.
[32:27.280 --> 32:30.280]  They're calling people who are anti-incumbent anti-government.
[32:30.280 --> 32:31.280]  Okay.
[32:31.280 --> 32:33.880]  What kind of logic is that?
[32:33.880 --> 32:39.760]  I mean, are they trying to say that only incumbents are government?
[32:39.760 --> 32:45.960]  That if you want to throw the bums out through lawful means such as, gee, elections, that
[32:45.960 --> 32:49.120]  if you want to elect out incumbents, now you're anti-government.
[32:49.120 --> 32:53.080]  This is just beyond reason.
[32:53.080 --> 32:59.280]  We were also talking on the break about this is your classic false flag terrorism.
[32:59.280 --> 33:05.000]  This is your classic where the government plants agent provocateurs in the midst of
[33:05.000 --> 33:12.400]  legitimate peaceful people standing on their rights like us, like Randy was saying earlier,
[33:12.400 --> 33:16.800]  and instigating and stirring up lunatic fringe movements and then trying to paint the whole
[33:16.800 --> 33:23.160]  movement as being aligned with the lunatic fringe or with the agent provocateur.
[33:23.160 --> 33:25.720]  Case in point, the Tea Party movement.
[33:25.720 --> 33:32.120]  There were agent provocateurs from the Democratic Party and this, I'm not getting into the left
[33:32.120 --> 33:35.560]  right paradigm here, this is just straight up fact.
[33:35.560 --> 33:39.960]  In fact, the guy was a teacher and he was busted because he was posting his own YouTube
[33:39.960 --> 33:45.760]  videos and going public where he, him and some other subversives, if you want to call
[33:45.760 --> 33:55.080]  him that, joined the Tea Party movement to try to instigate a bunch of anti-racial talk,
[33:55.080 --> 34:00.680]  race war talk at some of these Tea Party rallies to try to purposefully paint the Tea Party
[34:00.680 --> 34:01.680]  as being racist.
[34:01.680 --> 34:05.840]  And that is such, it's just total crap, people.
[34:05.840 --> 34:07.440]  So yeah, I agree.
[34:07.440 --> 34:11.480]  This report is, it's just, it's along those same lines.
[34:11.480 --> 34:14.240]  Eddie, you had some stuff to say?
[34:14.240 --> 34:17.200]  Well, pretty much along the same thing.
[34:17.200 --> 34:22.920]  They're constantly trying to cast aspersions upon those of us that are standing up for
[34:22.920 --> 34:30.200]  ourselves by using these agent provocateurs to make the same battle cry that we do but
[34:30.200 --> 34:35.880]  then to go off on the tangent of doing something that's outrageous or illegal to make it appear
[34:35.880 --> 34:43.880]  as if it was justified or accepted policy and practice by the rest of us that are trying
[34:43.880 --> 34:47.800]  to get it done properly.
[34:47.800 --> 34:54.320]  I mean, none of the people that I'm aware of wants violence to be the solution to what's
[34:54.320 --> 34:56.680]  going on in this country.
[34:56.680 --> 34:58.960]  None of us want that.
[34:58.960 --> 35:06.200]  But we have to be very aware that it may come to that because they're not going to leave
[35:06.200 --> 35:09.560]  us any other alternative.
[35:09.560 --> 35:13.980]  It's a possibility and anybody that thinks otherwise is either sleeping with their head
[35:13.980 --> 35:18.760]  in the sand or is already dead, take your pick.
[35:18.760 --> 35:23.680]  But the fact of the matter is, is they don't want to give up the power they've managed
[35:23.680 --> 35:26.360]  to get under their control.
[35:26.360 --> 35:29.320]  In any way, shape or form do they want to give it up?
[35:29.320 --> 35:32.440]  And as long as they can hold it, they will.
[35:32.440 --> 35:39.960]  And government is well known for never, ever in its entirety of human history has government
[35:39.960 --> 35:45.240]  ever peaceably surrendered power back to the people.
[35:45.240 --> 35:47.040]  It's never happened.
[35:47.040 --> 35:52.760]  Well, that's what elections are for.
[35:52.760 --> 35:54.880]  I mean, if we had legitimate-
[35:54.880 --> 35:55.880]  But they're allowed to work.
[35:55.880 --> 36:00.600]  Yeah, well, that's the whole thing with the electronic voting scheme and even the paper
[36:00.600 --> 36:08.320]  ballots that are scanned, it's all the same thing because the counting is still done electronically.
[36:08.320 --> 36:14.080]  I honestly think the only way that we're actually ever going to legitimately be able to take
[36:14.080 --> 36:17.880]  back control of our elected representatives is we're going to have to return to hand-counted
[36:17.880 --> 36:19.160]  paper ballots in public view.
[36:19.160 --> 36:27.200]  As long as we have these voting machines, we're never going to have legitimate elections
[36:27.200 --> 36:28.280]  ever.
[36:28.280 --> 36:33.440]  And that brings up another point, an article I was reading today off of Infowars talking
[36:33.440 --> 36:44.040]  about how the way the election campaign laws are written, corporations are allowed to donate
[36:44.040 --> 36:51.440]  unlimited amounts of money to elected officials, including judges.
[36:51.440 --> 36:55.960]  And as it turns out that- I'd have to pull up the article I don't have in front of me
[36:55.960 --> 37:04.920]  right now, sorry folks, but as it turns out, something like these corporations are donating
[37:04.920 --> 37:13.960]  triple the amount of money to get one judge elected in a state Supreme Court race, three
[37:13.960 --> 37:21.440]  times the amount of money to get this judge elected as they spent on the US Senate race.
[37:21.440 --> 37:28.800]  So it's getting to be a big deal right now concerning the paying off of judges.
[37:28.800 --> 37:34.880]  And yet if you're just a sovereign citizen, you're only allowed to donate $2,000 per year
[37:34.880 --> 37:35.880]  max.
[37:35.880 --> 37:39.120]  Now how can we ever compete with that?
[37:39.120 --> 37:44.360]  The election laws have to change, but I don't know how the campaign laws are going to change
[37:44.360 --> 37:46.840]  as long as the elections are rigged.
[37:46.840 --> 37:52.560]  So that is definitely a fight that I'm involved in with vote rescue.
[37:52.560 --> 37:54.720]  So anyway, that's just a side issue.
[37:54.720 --> 37:56.720]  Go ahead, Eddie.
[37:56.720 --> 38:00.720]  Well, that's pretty much what I've got on it.
[38:00.720 --> 38:04.240]  So if you're ready, we can go ahead and take the callers unless you or Randy have something
[38:04.240 --> 38:05.840]  additional to jump in with.
[38:05.840 --> 38:08.320]  You have anything else, Randy?
[38:08.320 --> 38:10.640]  No, not on that.
[38:10.640 --> 38:18.080]  Other than I think they go out of their way to recruit, oh heck, I'm not good at pulling
[38:18.080 --> 38:27.920]  up all of these epithets, epithet, how do you call them, slur terms, black people, fat
[38:27.920 --> 38:32.720]  people, hairy people, pedophiles.
[38:32.720 --> 38:35.800]  You have to be all of this to be a part of this group.
[38:35.800 --> 38:37.180]  That's what I've heard.
[38:37.180 --> 38:40.960]  How derogatory can we get?
[38:40.960 --> 38:48.040]  How many really nice, juicy, slanderous terms can we throw around to get the American public
[38:48.040 --> 38:54.720]  to say, oh yeah, that must be true because it sounds scandalous and outrageous.
[38:54.720 --> 39:01.200]  What I think is the American public is maturing beyond that crapola.
[39:01.200 --> 39:05.920]  And I suspect that these kinds of tactics are going to backfire on them.
[39:05.920 --> 39:09.240]  Yeah, well I hope it starts to backfire in the courts.
[39:09.240 --> 39:11.480]  Okay, I found the article.
[39:11.480 --> 39:16.280]  This is actually, part of it is from a Mother Jones article titled, you're going to love
[39:16.280 --> 39:23.680]  this, Randy, permission to encroach the bench, okay, discusses how already big ticket battles
[39:23.680 --> 39:28.720]  over state Supreme Court seats are likely to rocket to a new level of priciness.
[39:28.720 --> 39:34.800]  For a down ballot category that even well-intentioned voters pay little attention to, judicial races
[39:34.800 --> 39:37.160]  are astonishingly expensive.
[39:37.160 --> 39:43.880]  In 04, $9.3 million was spent in the race for a single seat on the Illinois Supreme
[39:43.880 --> 39:44.880]  Court.
[39:44.880 --> 39:53.520]  That's higher than the price tag than half the U.S. Senate races in the nation that year.
[39:53.520 --> 39:59.960]  In 2006, three candidates for Chief Justice in Alabama raised $8.2 million combined.
[39:59.960 --> 40:08.360]  Okay so, this is how, this is one reason why our court system is so corrupt.
[40:08.360 --> 40:14.760]  Because these corporations buy these judges before they're elected and then when these
[40:14.760 --> 40:18.840]  lawsuits come up, then the judges will win their favor.
[40:18.840 --> 40:30.280]  I tell people in the seminar, the courts are absolutely corrupt, totally and completely.
[40:30.280 --> 40:36.280]  And that's a problem on the one hand, but on the other, it's an advantage because when
[40:36.280 --> 40:41.120]  a citizen goes in pro se, you already know the court's going to rule against you, no
[40:41.120 --> 40:45.920]  matter what, out of hand at every turn.
[40:45.920 --> 40:55.160]  However, the courts are so corrupt, even the ones that bottom can't trust them.
[40:55.160 --> 41:01.680]  So that creates a situation where nobody wants to go to court before these corrupt officials.
[41:01.680 --> 41:04.880]  So it gives us an advantage.
[41:04.880 --> 41:10.040]  But absolutely, the courts are totally corrupt.
[41:10.040 --> 41:11.720]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[41:11.720 --> 41:12.720]  All right.
[41:12.720 --> 41:13.720]  All right, well let's go to the call.
[41:13.720 --> 41:14.720]  We got Robert in Texas.
[41:14.720 --> 41:16.120]  Robert, thanks for calling in.
[41:16.120 --> 41:17.120]  What's on your mind tonight?
[41:17.120 --> 41:20.720]  You want to make a comment on this ADL stuff or do you have something else for us?
[41:20.720 --> 41:22.320]  Actually, I have something else.
[41:22.320 --> 41:23.320]  Okay.
[41:23.320 --> 41:24.320]  That's all right.
[41:24.320 --> 41:25.320]  Go ahead.
[41:25.320 --> 41:26.320]  It's about vexatious litigate.
[41:26.320 --> 41:32.320]  I have a good friend on the 24th that's going into Collin County in the 401st District Court
[41:32.320 --> 41:40.000]  for a vexatious hearing and he has been following the rules and doing everything with the motions
[41:40.000 --> 41:41.000]  correctly.
[41:41.000 --> 41:47.480]  This has been on a long-going case and I want you guys' idea on how to handle this vexatious
[41:47.480 --> 41:52.600]  hearing.
[41:52.600 --> 41:55.400]  Who's calling it a vexatious hearing?
[41:55.400 --> 42:07.000]  Well, evidently, the document, the notice to appear has that on it.
[42:07.000 --> 42:08.000]  I don't know.
[42:08.000 --> 42:09.000]  Okay.
[42:09.000 --> 42:13.680]  How many lawsuits has this guy filed in court and lost?
[42:13.680 --> 42:19.280]  There I am going.
[42:19.280 --> 42:20.280]  No.
[42:20.280 --> 42:21.280]  Okay.
[42:21.280 --> 42:27.680]  In order to be a vexatious litigate, you have to have filed three civil actions and
[42:27.680 --> 42:30.800]  I forget the time period and lost all three.
[42:30.800 --> 42:34.120]  Oh, that's good to know.
[42:34.120 --> 42:36.720]  Is that state or federal, Randy?
[42:36.720 --> 42:39.160]  I think it's both.
[42:39.160 --> 42:44.800]  Where would I find that information?
[42:44.800 --> 42:49.280]  Probably just do an Internet search for vexatious litigate.
[42:49.280 --> 42:50.280]  Yeah.
[42:50.280 --> 42:54.160]  And they'll have it, it's defined, it's in the code somewhere, I'm not sure exactly
[42:54.160 --> 42:55.160]  where it is.
[42:55.160 --> 43:01.240]  If Ken was here, he would know, but it's very clearly defined on what constitutes a vexatious
[43:01.240 --> 43:02.240]  litigate.
[43:02.240 --> 43:03.240]  I see.
[43:03.240 --> 43:09.560]  If he's going to court, he needs to know precisely what it is and if someone accused him of being
[43:09.560 --> 43:19.600]  a vexatious litigate and they have not claimed that he meets the requirements, then he needs
[43:19.600 --> 43:30.640]  to file for sanctions against whoever did it, whoever the attorney is and he might file
[43:30.640 --> 43:33.760]  criminal charges against him for outlawry.
[43:33.760 --> 43:39.080]  Outlawry, we'll talk about outlawry on the other side.
[43:39.080 --> 43:46.520]  Outlawry is something that's in the Constitution, but it's almost never litigated and we need
[43:46.520 --> 43:47.520]  to fix that.
[43:47.520 --> 43:48.520]  Okay.
[43:48.520 --> 43:51.040]  All right, Robert, just stay there.
[43:51.040 --> 43:53.120]  Okay, we'll be right back.
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[45:51.440 --> 46:04.560]  Okay, we're back, Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig, rule of law and we were talking
[46:04.560 --> 46:08.400]  to Robert about vexatious litigant.
[46:08.400 --> 46:18.080]  This is part of a group of things that attorneys do to try to hammer anybody who tries to fight
[46:18.080 --> 46:19.080]  for their rights.
[46:19.080 --> 46:22.480]  There's two primary things they do.
[46:22.480 --> 46:26.040]  If you come to court and demand your rights, one of the first things they want to do is
[46:26.040 --> 46:32.320]  get you a psychological evaluation and we counter that with a Daubert's hearing.
[46:32.320 --> 46:39.600]  This motion for vexatious litigant should be addressed by multiple bar complaints and
[46:39.600 --> 46:41.600]  judicial conduct complaints.
[46:41.600 --> 46:50.160]  So you think I'm vexatious litigant, Bubba, you ain't seen nothing yet, but there are
[46:50.160 --> 46:58.040]  specific requirements, there's a specific definition of what is a vexatious litigant.
[46:58.040 --> 47:04.480]  And if I remember right, you have to have filed three civil actions and I think it's
[47:04.480 --> 47:11.000]  in the last two or three years and lost all of them and they all have to have been declared
[47:11.000 --> 47:13.760]  to be frivolous.
[47:13.760 --> 47:21.800]  Before you can be declared to be a vexatious litigant, the IRS did this to Ben Drum, the
[47:21.800 --> 47:29.360]  only thing he filed was an action against them and because he filed against them, they
[47:29.360 --> 47:35.880]  went to the court and asked the court to declare him a vexatious litigant and the court accommodated,
[47:35.880 --> 47:42.400]  even though he absolutely met none of the requirements.
[47:42.400 --> 47:45.200]  The courts are absolutely corrupt.
[47:45.200 --> 47:54.040]  We have to start going after these judges and we are the only ones who can fix it.
[47:54.040 --> 47:59.920]  The corporations can pay them all they want to, but they can't pay the grand juries.
[47:59.920 --> 48:08.320]  If we start taking these judges to grand juries, we will get this changed.
[48:08.320 --> 48:09.600]  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[48:09.600 --> 48:10.960]  I was going to go to that later.
[48:10.960 --> 48:13.080]  Okay, well let's see what Robert has to say.
[48:13.080 --> 48:14.560]  Robert, does that make sense?
[48:14.560 --> 48:20.480]  Yes, it does, but he started this conversation after the break about some kind of hearing
[48:20.480 --> 48:21.840]  and I didn't get that.
[48:21.840 --> 48:30.280]  The Daubert's hearing is for if they ask for a psychological evaluation, a Daubert's
[48:30.280 --> 48:36.360]  hearing is a hearing to test the credentials of an expert witness.
[48:36.360 --> 48:44.280]  A psychological evaluation is one of the tools they use to punish people with.
[48:44.280 --> 48:50.760]  We demand a Daubert's hearing and we go right for that psychologist or psychiatrist throat.
[48:50.760 --> 48:57.920]  He loses one Daubert's hearing, his career is over, at least in doing psych eval.
[48:57.920 --> 48:58.920]  That's a tool.
[48:58.920 --> 49:00.920]  Now, Randy, that sounds like paper terrorism.
[49:00.920 --> 49:03.040]  I can't believe it.
[49:03.040 --> 49:04.040]  I hope so.
[49:04.040 --> 49:10.040]  It is the intent that it terrorizes them if they're acting inappropriately.
[49:10.040 --> 49:13.400]  I see he admits it, folks.
[49:13.400 --> 49:18.120]  Absolutely and I go right along with the Supreme Court.
[49:18.120 --> 49:26.080]  When there are checks and balances in place, they are intended to be coercive.
[49:26.080 --> 49:27.080]  That is the purpose.
[49:27.080 --> 49:34.520]  What are some of the criminal charges that we could do?
[49:34.520 --> 49:38.440]  Charging him with... Look at what the statements they made.
[49:38.440 --> 49:46.680]  If they made any statement that wasn't true, charge them with aggravated perjury.
[49:46.680 --> 49:48.160]  Nobody does that.
[49:48.160 --> 49:49.600]  Attorneys don't do that to each other.
[49:49.600 --> 49:52.840]  Attorneys don't want to do bar grievances against each other.
[49:52.840 --> 49:56.480]  Attorneys don't file judicial conduct complaints against judges.
[49:56.480 --> 49:59.360]  They don't dare.
[49:59.360 --> 50:01.680]  Proseis can't.
[50:01.680 --> 50:05.360]  Sovereign citizens certainly can.
[50:05.360 --> 50:11.880]  They really need to get together all of the influence they can to convince us that it's
[50:11.880 --> 50:22.120]  a bad idea to do these things because it is so devastating to them, but in the end it's
[50:22.120 --> 50:24.280]  not going to work.
[50:24.280 --> 50:29.760]  File bar grievances against the attorney for filing a frivolous plea and ask the court
[50:29.760 --> 50:32.560]  for sanctions for filing the plea.
[50:32.560 --> 50:38.400]  I don't think that he has filed but one civil action to tell you the truth.
[50:38.400 --> 50:43.360]  And you need to move for sanctions against counsel, file bar grievance against counsel,
[50:43.360 --> 50:52.600]  and you might want to sue counsel or at least send counsel a court letter.
[50:52.600 --> 50:54.020]  Attorneys don't do that.
[50:54.020 --> 50:55.360]  They don't do sanctions.
[50:55.360 --> 50:58.800]  They don't do bar grievances.
[50:58.800 --> 51:03.920]  And if the judge fails to rule according to law, judicial conduct complainant.
[51:03.920 --> 51:07.640]  That's what it's there for.
[51:07.640 --> 51:16.400]  But I suggest if you file a bar grievance that you do it with style and flair.
[51:16.400 --> 51:23.920]  And the way you do it with style and flair is you never say a word about it.
[51:23.920 --> 51:30.360]  The attorney does something, you don't say, you're not supposed to do that and I got this
[51:30.360 --> 51:34.480]  right and I got that, don't ever do that stuff.
[51:34.480 --> 51:37.240]  Just stand there and grin at him.
[51:37.240 --> 51:41.520]  And then tomorrow he gets a notice from the state bar that you've grieved him.
[51:41.520 --> 51:44.320]  And he's going to say, what?
[51:44.320 --> 51:46.520]  I didn't even know he was upset.
[51:46.520 --> 51:52.560]  Timing is a factor in this and it's on the 24th we have time.
[51:52.560 --> 51:55.600]  So that's something we need to start looking into right now.
[51:55.600 --> 51:57.960]  Yeah, get a bar grievance in on it.
[51:57.960 --> 51:59.280]  And look at some of the other stuff.
[51:59.280 --> 52:00.720]  I don't know all the details yet.
[52:00.720 --> 52:03.720]  I just heard about this today and he's a good friend.
[52:03.720 --> 52:11.120]  Look in the American Bar Association Standards, the Texas Bar Association Standards.
[52:11.120 --> 52:20.200]  You'll find one in there is going to failure to speak with candor to the court.
[52:20.200 --> 52:22.880]  That's one of the worst things an attorney can do.
[52:22.880 --> 52:25.640]  That's the thing that will get him disbarred before any other.
[52:25.640 --> 52:30.720]  So accuse the attorney of failing to speak with candor to the court.
[52:30.720 --> 52:35.640]  And ask for sanctions, you can do that in a motion, and file a bar grievance accusing
[52:35.640 --> 52:40.960]  him of failing to speak with candor to the court and committing aggravated perjury by
[52:40.960 --> 52:46.280]  making statements of material fact to the court that were untrue.
[52:46.280 --> 52:49.760]  The bar grievance will sting him good.
[52:49.760 --> 52:53.960]  These motions need to be filed with this judge that's holding the hearing, I guess.
[52:53.960 --> 52:54.960]  Yes.
[52:54.960 --> 52:57.920]  It needs to be filed with the clerk of the court.
[52:57.920 --> 53:07.160]  And if the judge fails to properly apply the law to the facts, file a judicial complaint
[53:07.160 --> 53:09.760]  against him.
[53:09.760 --> 53:16.600]  If you do that and don't say anything to him about it, he is forbidden to mention it.
[53:16.600 --> 53:22.360]  If he does, you file a complaint against him for that.
[53:22.360 --> 53:23.900]  If he mentions it.
[53:23.900 --> 53:28.800]  If he says one word about it, you order him off that bench immediately.
[53:28.800 --> 53:33.960]  Ask the bailiff to drag him down off that bench, he's disqualified.
[53:33.960 --> 53:37.480]  I have done that in court a number of times.
[53:37.480 --> 53:44.640]  And not once has a judge opened his mouth, because they know I've just put him in really
[53:44.640 --> 53:46.600]  deep water.
[53:46.600 --> 53:51.140]  I'm asking the bailiff, whose job it is to keep the peace in the courtroom that makes
[53:51.140 --> 53:56.720]  no difference who breaches it, to drag that judge down off the bench and throw him in
[53:56.720 --> 54:00.640]  jail because he's committed crimes on the bench.
[54:00.640 --> 54:02.360]  The judge sits there and keeps his mouth shut.
[54:02.360 --> 54:08.840]  The only thing a judge has said is he's jumped up and said, clear the jury, clear the jury.
[54:08.840 --> 54:13.500]  But I know that in the civil action, I believe that there's been a number, a huge number
[54:13.500 --> 54:21.840]  of people sued, and it has really aggravated a bunch of attorneys and higher up district
[54:21.840 --> 54:25.200]  attorneys and stuff in Collin County.
[54:25.200 --> 54:32.080]  And this is good information that you have given me, and I'm going to pass it on.
[54:32.080 --> 54:38.320]  These guys want to use tools against you, they want to give you a fight, give them one.
[54:38.320 --> 54:45.760]  Their problem is, is you're just one of these low-down, rotten, scumbag, sovereign citizens,
[54:45.760 --> 54:50.000]  and you're not going to lose your career over this.
[54:50.000 --> 54:51.680]  They might.
[54:51.680 --> 54:53.760]  Okay.
[54:53.760 --> 54:57.960]  You start going after them this way, and now they're looking at their career hanging in
[54:57.960 --> 55:00.300]  the balance.
[55:00.300 --> 55:05.440]  If we're ever going to beat these guys, we have to be willing to take the fight to them.
[55:05.440 --> 55:10.440]  You've made some dealings with Collin County, haven't you?
[55:10.440 --> 55:12.440]  We're not calling so much at Denton.
[55:12.440 --> 55:13.440]  Denton, oh, I see.
[55:13.440 --> 55:19.120]  Yeah, you go to Denton County and mention my name, you will get a rather surprising
[55:19.120 --> 55:20.120]  reaction.
[55:20.120 --> 55:27.120]  Yeah, if I could just get America to make me king for one year, I could clean all this
[55:27.120 --> 55:28.120]  up.
[55:28.120 --> 55:30.120]  No, you'd get corrupted like the rest of them.
[55:30.120 --> 55:34.000]  And I guarantee you, they wouldn't like it, at least those in power currently.
[55:34.000 --> 55:35.000]  Yeah.
[55:35.000 --> 55:42.160]  I filed a, I didn't file it, I served back in the early 90s, a federal lawsuit on some
[55:42.160 --> 55:46.120]  judges up there, and they followed me home.
[55:46.120 --> 55:49.240]  Wait, who followed you home?
[55:49.240 --> 55:54.920]  They followed me and got my last plate number, then later that evening, this big, long Lincoln
[55:54.920 --> 56:00.760]  come driving by the front of the house, and I just know that was a judge, the guy we followed
[56:00.760 --> 56:01.760]  on.
[56:01.760 --> 56:08.920]  So you call the Sheriff's Department and make a, file a charge for tampering with a witness.
[56:08.920 --> 56:12.320]  Yeah, well, that's been a long time ago, we didn't know what to do then.
[56:12.320 --> 56:18.920]  Okay, keep this in mind, when you, when you go in and start filing judicial conduct complaints,
[56:18.920 --> 56:25.080]  bar grievances, and criminal complaints, you need to file a criminal complaint, at least
[56:25.080 --> 56:34.840]  one, because once you file the criminal complaint against the public official, I present a procedure
[56:34.840 --> 56:38.240]  here where you can work your way up to the district judge.
[56:38.240 --> 56:44.360]  Yeah, I deal with, I know Ken, he's in that process, Chipman.
[56:44.360 --> 56:45.360]  Chipman, okay.
[56:45.360 --> 56:46.360]  Yeah.
[56:46.360 --> 56:53.080]  You want to get a complaint against a high-level judge, the higher-level judge you can get
[56:53.080 --> 56:55.400]  to, the better, best to have it a district judge.
[56:55.400 --> 56:58.640]  Well, that's who it's going to, it might be him.
[56:58.640 --> 56:59.640]  Good, good.
[56:59.640 --> 57:05.760]  So once you make an allegation against the judge, like you file a judicial conduct complaint
[57:05.760 --> 57:16.640]  against him, if Bailiff says anything to you you don't like, you accuse that Bailiff of
[57:16.640 --> 57:23.600]  doing that because the judge sent him there to do that, to retaliate against you for your
[57:23.600 --> 57:25.920]  testimony against the judge.
[57:25.920 --> 57:28.520]  I see.
[57:28.520 --> 57:31.720]  And it's best if the judge had nothing to do with it.
[57:31.720 --> 57:38.800]  It's always best to go after the innocent party because he'll scream bloody murder.
[57:38.800 --> 57:44.440]  And I assure you, those, all of the public officials in the courthouse are terrified
[57:44.440 --> 57:45.440]  of the judge.
[57:45.440 --> 57:47.680]  I believe that.
[57:47.680 --> 57:54.440]  You go after the judge, they want nothing to do with you.
[57:54.440 --> 57:57.320]  This will make sure you don't get intimidated.
[57:57.320 --> 57:59.320]  Follow me home.
[57:59.320 --> 58:02.120]  Policeman does not want to follow me home.
[58:02.120 --> 58:04.720]  I'd break him from sucking eggs.
[58:04.720 --> 58:07.320]  If you come up with anything else, I'm still listening.
[58:07.320 --> 58:08.320]  Okay.
[58:08.320 --> 58:09.320]  All right.
[58:09.320 --> 58:10.320]  Bye.
[58:10.320 --> 58:11.320]  Thanks, Robert.
[58:11.320 --> 58:12.320]  All right, folks.
[58:12.320 --> 58:23.600]  We're heading to the top of the hour break for the INN World News Report.
[58:23.600 --> 58:24.600]  We got hour two.
[58:24.600 --> 58:25.600]  We got open phone lines.
[58:25.600 --> 58:32.880]  So, folks, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, you can call about whatever's on your mind
[58:32.880 --> 58:35.680]  and we will discuss it.
[58:35.680 --> 58:42.000]  You have traffic issues or other legal issues, call on in 512-646-1984.
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[59:40.560 --> 01:00:04.320]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:08.520]  Twelve NATO soldiers were killed Tuesday in roadside bombings in southern and eastern
[01:00:08.520 --> 01:00:13.720]  Afghanistan while insurgent attacks elsewhere claimed eight civilian lives.
[01:00:13.720 --> 01:00:18.760]  At least five U.S. troops were among those killed.
[01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:24.200]  Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who deployed 46,000 U.K. troops alongside
[01:00:24.200 --> 01:00:31.200]  U.S. forces in the 2003 Iraq invasion, said Wednesday he did not regard the war as a mistake.
[01:00:31.200 --> 01:00:34.440]  Blair spoke on the publication of his memoirs, A Journey.
[01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:38.760]  Hundreds of thousands of Britons protested against the war in London and other cities.
[01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:43.360]  As the occupation progressed, the conflict became even more unpopular with Britain's
[01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:47.520]  openly deriding Blair.
[01:00:47.520 --> 01:00:53.920]  The World Food Program warned Tuesday flood-ravaged Pakistan faced a triple threat after the worst
[01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:59.440]  disaster in the country's history has left eight million people dependent on aid to survive.
[01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:05.880]  WFP Chief Josette Sharon said people have lost seeds, crops and their incomes, leaving
[01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:09.440]  them vulnerable to hunger, homelessness and desperation.
[01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:16.080]  The situation is extremely critical.
[01:01:16.080 --> 01:01:21.040]  In Iraq, insurgents have dismissed the U.S. Administration's announcement of a new dawn
[01:01:21.040 --> 01:01:25.840]  saying they will fight on until the last U.S. soldier has left the country.
[01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:30.840]  American-Iraqi freedom, launched by George Bush seven years ago, ended Tuesday with the
[01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.360]  end of official U.S. combat operations.
[01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:37.200]  However, Iraqi insurgent groups said it was business as usual.
[01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:42.840]  A senior official in the Iraqi Ba'ath Party, which remains heavily involved in the insurgency,
[01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.200]  said nothing has changed at all.
[01:01:45.200 --> 01:01:49.760]  They can say combat is over, but there has been no ceasefire from the resistance and
[01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:54.560]  there will be no ceasefire while there is even a single American soldier in Iraq.
[01:01:54.560 --> 01:01:59.760]  He said U.S. claims to have ceased offensive military operations were, quote, a lie, pointing
[01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:04.080]  to the continued role of U.S. special forces and intelligence units.
[01:02:04.080 --> 01:02:09.140]  U.S. soldiers also continue to patrol the so-called trigger-line territories, areas
[01:02:09.140 --> 01:02:14.840]  disputed between Iraqi Kurds and Arabs.
[01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:18.940]  On New York City's Wall Street, more than 100 people representing groups from across
[01:02:18.940 --> 01:02:24.360]  the country Wednesday called on unemployed people to join them for a march on Washington,
[01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:25.360]  D.C.
[01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:26.360]  October 2nd.
[01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:31.640]  The movement One Nation Working Together is demanding jobs, justice and education for
[01:02:31.640 --> 01:02:33.800]  all Americans.
[01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:41.960]  Representatives of the NAACP, the AFL-CIO, United for Peace and Justice and ANSA Act
[01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:48.200]  Now to End War, said workers needed to pull together to demand jobs.
[01:02:48.200 --> 01:02:51.520]  Events are planned across the country for the rest of this week.
[01:02:51.520 --> 01:03:06.880]  For more information, visit onenationworkingtogether.org.
[01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:12.280]  On April 19th, 1995, at 9.02 a.m., explosions tore through the Alphard P. Murrow building
[01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:16.720]  in downtown Oklahoma City, ripping through the consciousness of American.
[01:03:16.720 --> 01:03:20.480]  169 people were left dead and hundreds more injured.
[01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:28.320]  The Oklahoma City bonded with the largest act of terrorism on American soil until 9.11.
[01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:29.320]  America had a new demon.
[01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:36.000]  We are now being told that this demon is emerging from its slumber.
[01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:41.120]  Since that day of horror, groundbreaking new information has come to light, so provocative,
[01:03:41.120 --> 01:03:44.840]  so explosive, that it threatens to shatter everything we thought we knew about the true
[01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:45.840]  nature of terrorism.
[01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:52.960]  We will pursue every lead and use every possible resource to bring the people responsible to
[01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:53.960]  justice.
[01:03:53.960 --> 01:04:03.360]  I was sitting at my desk there on the 8th floor, I felt that the building started shaking,
[01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:07.920]  lights went out, debris started falling on my desk, something hit me in the back of the
[01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.280]  head and knocked me out before the truck bomb went off.
[01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:13.920]  What that tells you is that there were other explosive devices in the building that actually
[01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:14.920]  brought the building down.
[01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:23.280]  It's an earthquake, everybody gets down underneath on the floor and I had sat there and I thought,
[01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:32.520]  you know, it doesn't feel like an earthquake, seven or eight seconds later I felt this explosion.
[01:04:32.520 --> 01:04:39.240]  Only an imbecile would look at that damage pattern and not understand that it couldn't
[01:04:39.240 --> 01:04:50.680]  have been made by a truck bomb because a truck bomb is going to release its energy simultaneously
[01:04:50.680 --> 01:04:52.720]  in every direction.
[01:04:52.720 --> 01:04:58.640]  The record clearly shows that Dr. John Lee and West consulted Timothy McVeigh's defense
[01:04:58.640 --> 01:04:59.640]  team.
[01:04:59.640 --> 01:05:06.760]  Dr. West had previously been a psychiatrist and consulted for Patty Hearst, Saran Saran
[01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:09.280]  and Jack Ruby.
[01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:13.760]  We know that John Lee and West was considered to be the number two mind control expert in
[01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:18.080]  North America under only Dr. Ewing Cameron.
[01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:24.320]  We know that he was McVeigh's doctor from the time around the trial to the time he was
[01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.040]  incarcerated in Tarahuda, Indiana and then executed.
[01:05:28.040 --> 01:05:33.200]  Even though the spin was, it was the right wing, it was the militias, McVeigh was involved
[01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:37.000]  in all this stuff, he did it because of Waco and all this stuff that the media was pumping
[01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.720]  out, none of it panned out.
[01:05:39.720 --> 01:05:43.520]  The militia in those days would have guarded the Murrah building.
[01:05:43.520 --> 01:05:46.320]  Now they wouldn't have guarded the UN.
[01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:53.120]  I wrote a letter to the district attorney, Macy, told him what I had seen and that I
[01:05:53.120 --> 01:05:56.000]  wanted to testify in the grand jury.
[01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:01.240]  I got a letter back from him telling me that the grand jury did not want to hear anything
[01:06:01.240 --> 01:06:03.640]  I had to say about the bombing.
[01:06:03.640 --> 01:06:09.880]  It is every patriotic American's duty, every man, woman and child's responsibility to research
[01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:15.480]  the facts contained in this film to verify for yourself that this information is true
[01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:20.360]  and that the rabbit hole goes even deeper and then take action to bring the criminals
[01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:22.400]  that perpetrated this attack to justice.
[01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:37.160]  If we don't, they're going to win and bring down our republic in the process.
[01:06:37.160 --> 01:06:39.600]  All right folks, that is it.
[01:06:39.600 --> 01:06:45.600]  That's the trailer for A Noble Lie.
[01:06:45.600 --> 01:06:50.840]  It's a movie that my very good friends, close friends Chris Emery, Holland Vanden Neuwenhoff
[01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:56.760]  and James Lane are making and yours truly has just officially joined the team.
[01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:01.520]  I'm going to be helping them work on the audio for the movie A Noble Lie.
[01:07:01.520 --> 01:07:02.520]  That is the trailer.
[01:07:02.520 --> 01:07:10.680]  It was just debuted a half an hour ago at the INN World Report Studios in New York City
[01:07:10.680 --> 01:07:17.640]  where We Are Change and INN Studios are hosting a series of four day events starting today,
[01:07:17.640 --> 01:07:22.600]  starting this afternoon on the events of 9-11.
[01:07:22.600 --> 01:07:30.760]  You can find out more about that by going to www.INNWorldReport.com and going to www.FreeMindReport.com.
[01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:36.840]  You can find out more information about the film at www.ANobelLie.com.
[01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:38.720]  Right now that is on YouTube.
[01:07:38.720 --> 01:07:39.720]  Just got released to YouTube.
[01:07:39.720 --> 01:07:42.760]  I just got the email from James about 10 minutes ago.
[01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:45.640]  So you're hearing it first right here on Rule of Law Radio.
[01:07:45.640 --> 01:07:52.240]  You can go to YouTube.com slash user slash Free Mind Report and James Lane and Holland
[01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:58.360]  Vanden Neuwenhoff do their show Free Mind Report here on Rule of Law on Wednesday evenings
[01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:00.160]  from 8 to 10.
[01:08:00.160 --> 01:08:01.160]  So that's the trailer.
[01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:04.160]  I'm looking forward to working on it with them.
[01:08:04.160 --> 01:08:06.280]  Can't wait to see the final product.
[01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:09.840]  This is going to blow the socks off of everybody who doesn't know anything about the Oklahoma
[01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:10.840]  City bombing.
[01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:16.320]  There are more holes in the official story for the Oklahoma City bombing than for 9-11.
[01:08:16.320 --> 01:08:18.960]  So that was it, ANobel Lie.
[01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:20.240]  Go to ANobelLie.com.
[01:08:20.240 --> 01:08:21.680]  All right.
[01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:24.600]  We are going to be taking your calls now.
[01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.080]  We've got Gerald from Texas.
[01:08:27.080 --> 01:08:30.200]  Gerald, thanks for calling in.
[01:08:30.200 --> 01:08:31.680]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:32.680]  Yeah.
[01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:42.880]  I called in a few Fridays again asking how I would go about on a tort letter.
[01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:48.520]  What happened was the cop was originally Officer Goodman.
[01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.320]  Now, wait a minute.
[01:08:50.320 --> 01:08:52.320]  Let's bring our listeners up to speed.
[01:08:52.320 --> 01:08:54.320]  You're Anthony's brother, right?
[01:08:54.320 --> 01:08:55.320]  Yes.
[01:08:55.320 --> 01:08:56.320]  Okay.
[01:08:56.320 --> 01:08:58.400]  We're familiar with Anthony's case, the garage and all of that.
[01:08:58.400 --> 01:08:59.400]  So go ahead.
[01:08:59.400 --> 01:09:00.400]  Okay.
[01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:11.240]  He was originally going to release my car to me, and he went to go try to roll up the
[01:09:11.240 --> 01:09:16.280]  windows or something, and he couldn't figure out how to do it, and then he asked me how
[01:09:16.280 --> 01:09:21.880]  to do it, and I told him, you know, I don't know what you did, you must have broke it
[01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:22.880]  or something.
[01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:23.880]  He goes, all right.
[01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:24.880]  That's it.
[01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:30.240]  I'm not playing any games with your car getting towed.
[01:09:30.240 --> 01:09:36.640]  My dad was there at the time as well, and he goes after Officer Goodman under what authority
[01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:46.600]  that he was going to tow the car, and he says under my authority, and that's pretty much
[01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:47.600]  it.
[01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:48.600]  Where was the car?
[01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:55.000]  It was in a parking lot at an apartment.
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:56.000]  Okay.
[01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:00.000]  And so he just simply said he was going to tow the car on his own authority?
[01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:01.000]  Yeah.
[01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:02.000]  Okay.
[01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  Go ahead.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  All right.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:10.440]  He said that it was his property, and then...
[01:10:10.440 --> 01:10:12.760]  What was his property?
[01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:17.480]  The parking lot.
[01:10:17.480 --> 01:10:24.600]  I got the whole thing recorded from the time I left my house until the time I got back.
[01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:27.120]  Okay.
[01:10:27.120 --> 01:10:30.560]  He said the parking spot you were in was his property?
[01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:38.960]  That's what he claimed at first, and then he quickly corrected himself.
[01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:41.400]  Okay.
[01:10:41.400 --> 01:10:45.600]  So he's acting under color of law without any authority to a certain authority he does
[01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:47.600]  not have?
[01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:49.600]  Mm-hmm.
[01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:51.600]  Okay.
[01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:57.400]  So do you have a question about that, or are you just giving us more commentary?
[01:10:57.400 --> 01:11:01.840]  I was wondering what I should include in my tort letter to the mayor about this.
[01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:02.840]  Did he take the car?
[01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:03.840]  Yeah.
[01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:04.840]  Yeah.
[01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:05.840]  They towed it.
[01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:06.840]  I had a...
[01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:07.840]  Aggravated robbery.
[01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:08.840]  Okay.
[01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:09.840]  I had a...
[01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:13.280]  Terroristic threat.
[01:11:13.280 --> 01:11:15.760]  Threat of bodily injury.
[01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:16.760]  Aggravated assault.
[01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:17.760]  Okay.
[01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:21.920]  Did he arrest you?
[01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:22.920]  No.
[01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:29.520]  It was my brother that was in the car.
[01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:33.880]  And what was the charge he arrested your brother on?
[01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.960]  They said they had enough probable cause to search the vehicle.
[01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:40.280]  What did they stop...
[01:11:40.280 --> 01:11:42.760]  What did they do to have probable cause?
[01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.000]  What were they asserting gave them probable cause?
[01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.000]  I have no clue.
[01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:54.240]  Well, let me see if I understand the relation of what's going on here.
[01:11:54.240 --> 01:11:57.520]  The boys, when they were arrested, were all in a garage.
[01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:02.000]  Was the car in the garage with them or was it parked elsewhere?
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:05.280]  That happened.
[01:12:05.280 --> 01:12:06.280]  Say that again.
[01:12:06.280 --> 01:12:10.600]  This is a different event that happened.
[01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:11.600]  It was...
[01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:12.600]  Oh, a different event.
[01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:13.600]  Okay.
[01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:22.520]  It was just a few weeks ago that this happened.
[01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:23.640]  Okay.
[01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:31.600]  Then what was the officer's reason for interfacing with your brother to begin with?
[01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.200]  Why did he come up to him and start talking to him?
[01:12:34.200 --> 01:12:36.720]  I have no idea.
[01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:40.720]  He never said anything.
[01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:49.080]  They were just parked there and I'm guessing he showed up and that's when it started.
[01:12:49.080 --> 01:12:53.520]  The officer just showed up out of the blue and started talking to him and harassing him?
[01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:54.520]  Yeah.
[01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:55.520]  Yeah.
[01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:01.000]  Well, at first he asked my brother if he could have his consent to search the vehicle.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000]  And my brother goes, no, you need a warrant for that.
[01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.320]  And he goes, all right, step out of the vehicle.
[01:13:05.320 --> 01:13:10.040]  And I'm guessing that's when he handcuffed him and his friend and put him in the back
[01:13:10.040 --> 01:13:13.720]  of the car and started their search.
[01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:15.080]  Okay.
[01:13:15.080 --> 01:13:19.960]  But my question is, is why did the officer approach them in the first place?
[01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:24.400]  It's not normal that a police officer walks up to somebody out of the blue and says, hey,
[01:13:24.400 --> 01:13:29.400]  I want permission to search your car.
[01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:32.440]  What preceded this?
[01:13:32.440 --> 01:13:34.400]  That I have no idea.
[01:13:34.400 --> 01:13:39.000]  Well, what did they get pulled over for in the first place?
[01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.320]  They weren't pulled over, they were parked.
[01:13:41.320 --> 01:13:42.320]  Where were they parked?
[01:13:42.320 --> 01:13:44.520]  In the parking lot at the apartment.
[01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:45.520]  Okay.
[01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:46.520]  I remember this now.
[01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.680]  They were parked in the parking lot of the apartment complex.
[01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:53.640]  And wait a minute, I think you called in about this before and you said that the police said
[01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:57.920]  there was a call of some suspicious activity or something?
[01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:58.920]  Yeah.
[01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:01.880]  That's what I was about to tell y'all.
[01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.640]  My brother said that they said they got a call.
[01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:06.800]  Okay.
[01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:08.120]  I remember this now.
[01:14:08.120 --> 01:14:13.920]  They need to file for discovery if they're going to file a lawsuit or in the defense
[01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:18.440]  of the criminal case, they need to subpoena, the defense attorney needs to subpoena that
[01:14:18.440 --> 01:14:25.800]  call because if the cops are lying, which they probably are, there probably was no call,
[01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:31.680]  then that would be exculpatory evidence, which means evidence that could prove they're
[01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:32.680]  innocent.
[01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:33.680]  Okay.
[01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:37.000]  And prove the officer had no probable cause to begin with.
[01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:43.400]  Prove the officer had no probable cause, so that's grounds to throw the whole thing out.
[01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:47.680]  And to go after him directly.
[01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:48.680]  What that?
[01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:55.320]  I said, and it's enough evidence to go after the officer directly for his actions.
[01:14:55.320 --> 01:15:01.080]  Do they, whoever's involved, who's getting prosecuted here, is there a defense attorney,
[01:15:01.080 --> 01:15:04.760]  like a court appointed defense attorney?
[01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:06.680]  I'm not sure.
[01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:11.520]  My brother still has to do that, the first one, which is tomorrow.
[01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:12.520]  Right.
[01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:14.720]  The arraignment for the other thing.
[01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:21.360]  I'm pretty sure after this one, after he goes in and does all his stuff, they're more
[01:15:21.360 --> 01:15:27.840]  than likely going to drop the second one because they don't want to have to deal with him again.
[01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:28.840]  Right.
[01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:34.040]  Well, he needs to, for the second one, I guess this is Anthony you're talking about, right?
[01:15:34.040 --> 01:15:35.040]  Yeah.
[01:15:35.040 --> 01:15:42.480]  Anthony would need to pressure the defense attorney to subpoena the call.
[01:15:42.480 --> 01:15:47.680]  And a lot of times for 911, if it was a 911 call, now see there's different kinds of police
[01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:48.680]  calls.
[01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:52.480]  Sometimes people will call 311, that's what it is here in Austin, if it's a non-emergency.
[01:15:52.480 --> 01:16:01.560]  311 calls possibly could be subpoenaed and used as evidence in a public hearing.
[01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:07.480]  911 calls, typically it's difficult to subpoena them, but they can be what's called viewed
[01:16:07.480 --> 01:16:12.440]  in camera, which means that the judge and the attorneys would review it or maybe just
[01:16:12.440 --> 01:16:13.440]  the judge.
[01:16:13.440 --> 01:16:20.560]  But either way, that call needs to be subpoenaed to prove one way or the other if the officer
[01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:22.000]  is lying or not.
[01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.160]  And I suspect it was.
[01:16:23.160 --> 01:16:29.600]  Now what Randy and I have discussed before on the air that if there's not a gate on the
[01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:36.800]  apartment complex parking lot where anybody could just pull in, then yes, the police can
[01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:37.800]  pull in.
[01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:41.040]  It's not necessarily trespass because it's open to the public.
[01:16:41.040 --> 01:16:44.160]  Anyone can just drive on into the parking lot, but if it's gated, that's a different
[01:16:44.160 --> 01:16:45.160]  story.
[01:16:45.160 --> 01:16:49.520]  But the police, just because they can lawfully drive into the parking lot, does not mean
[01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:53.240]  that they can just start harassing people sitting in cars.
[01:16:53.240 --> 01:16:57.080]  So they need to, Anthony's going to have to subpoena that tape.
[01:16:57.080 --> 01:16:58.080]  All right.
[01:16:58.080 --> 01:17:03.160]  So we need to, we'll be right back.
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[01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:49.200]  Okay, we are back.
[01:18:49.200 --> 01:18:54.320]  We are going now to Pat in West Texas.
[01:18:54.320 --> 01:18:56.400]  Hope he's not hanging out on the tower up there, Pat.
[01:18:56.400 --> 01:18:57.400]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:18:57.400 --> 01:18:58.400]  Are you up on the tower?
[01:18:58.400 --> 01:18:59.400]  No.
[01:18:59.400 --> 01:19:03.400]  I found a suite down here on the ground, and I don't have to climb it at all.
[01:19:03.400 --> 01:19:04.400]  Oh, good.
[01:19:04.400 --> 01:19:07.400]  What's on your mind tonight, Pat?
[01:19:07.400 --> 01:19:14.840]  There's, let's see, last just had a court date to get over in Seguin.
[01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:21.240]  Seguin is one of those municipalities that does not meet any of the requirements for
[01:19:21.240 --> 01:19:31.280]  policy under the Texas Administrative Code, and according to the letter that, and I had
[01:19:31.280 --> 01:19:42.320]  went back and asked from the OGC at the Office of the General Counsel, and Guadalupe County
[01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:43.320]  are certified.
[01:19:43.320 --> 01:19:50.600]  Neither is the county, though they do meet the requirements, but Guadalupe County does
[01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:57.360]  not, and Seguin, the municipality does not, and I'd submitted some motions prior to going
[01:19:57.360 --> 01:20:04.000]  over there and everything, and I've been trying to get the nature of the charge and all that
[01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:10.120]  from them, so when I showed up for court a little early, I was trying to get the view
[01:20:10.120 --> 01:20:19.400]  of the file to get a copy of the complaint and that kind of stuff, and in talking with
[01:20:19.400 --> 01:20:26.360]  the assistant clerk, she said she didn't have the file, but she had to call the administrator
[01:20:26.360 --> 01:20:28.680]  out for me to talk to.
[01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:33.440]  You have to go through these people before you can go into the court, the way they've
[01:20:33.440 --> 01:20:39.480]  got their municipal court set up, and so they called the administrator out, and it was not
[01:20:39.480 --> 01:20:45.560]  usual for the first, I don't know, three, four, five minutes, talking about what was
[01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:53.960]  going on, and she had the impression, according to her file, on the computer that a not guilty
[01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.760]  plea would be entered, and I swear, I haven't entered anything.
[01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:02.800]  I haven't gotten anything from you, and what I'm trying to do is, well, for my court date,
[01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:09.960]  and I want a copy of what's in the file, just that I can't give it to you.
[01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:16.400]  You've sent in some, and we've scheduled a motion hearing for the 21st, so I'm not going
[01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:21.080]  to be available on the 21st, we're going to have to postpone that, and I said, I'm not
[01:21:21.080 --> 01:21:26.920]  available until after the election, because I'm running for office, and she said, I can
[01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:34.160]  only postpone it 30 days, that's all the judge will allow me to do, and I said, problem here
[01:21:34.160 --> 01:21:42.400]  right now, let me look at the file, and I'll see what I need out of it, and you make me
[01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:48.040]  a copy, and she said, I can't do that, you have to submit a FOIA.
[01:21:48.040 --> 01:21:55.000]  I have a witness to all this that was going down, and I said, well, we have a due process
[01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:57.080]  violation here then.
[01:21:57.080 --> 01:22:04.000]  That's when her demeanor changed, and Randy talks about the chicken dance.
[01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:11.040]  She started clucking like a chicken that had all the head cut off, about her demeanor change,
[01:22:11.040 --> 01:22:17.400]  she hit the button, and I didn't know, I didn't really listen to what was going on behind
[01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:22.960]  me, there was commotion behind me, this little short guy that hasn't missed a meal since
[01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:30.440]  they were in Venice came out, I guess he was, and he was puffing and puffing and trying
[01:22:30.440 --> 01:22:32.000]  to get my neck.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:42.680]  Eventually, he got me escorted out of the building, but the final thing was her name,
[01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:48.400]  and I kept asking her for that, because she wanted to know why, and I said, well, I guess
[01:22:48.400 --> 01:22:51.480]  I'm just going to have to go to the grand jury.
[01:22:51.480 --> 01:22:57.560]  You should have seen the eye of this fine young lady, and she was not a happy thing.
[01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:03.520]  Good, it's about time to make them unhappy, in more ways than one.
[01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:09.800]  Well, she's already told me that the judge was in there holding court, but no prosecutor
[01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:19.640]  in the municipal traffic court, just the judge, and just screaming out one after the trying
[01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:26.920]  to face and stuff, and I'm listening to her tell me there's no future in the building,
[01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:31.760]  because I asked, how are you holding court, and she said, well, they're just going in
[01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:39.200]  and talking to the judge, and I said, I'm supposed to be here for court today, she said,
[01:23:39.200 --> 01:23:44.160]  no, no, no, you've been rescheduled, you're going to be on the 21st, and I said, I don't
[01:23:44.160 --> 01:23:53.400]  have any notice of this, I was told to be here, so we got a problem, she said, well,
[01:23:53.400 --> 01:23:56.560]  you're going to have to write a letter to the prosecutor, and I said, well, I wrote
[01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:01.400]  a letter to you asking who the prosecutor was, you've never answered me, she said, well,
[01:24:01.400 --> 01:24:05.320]  I don't remember your letter, I said, well, are you ever going to answer me, she said,
[01:24:05.320 --> 01:24:11.440]  I did, I said, no, you didn't, I don't have anything from you, and she got a little upset
[01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:20.480]  with me, I never raised my voice, never got upset, never lost my cool, and she was just
[01:24:20.480 --> 01:24:25.320]  about screaming by the time she got away from that window, there's a bulletproof window,
[01:24:25.320 --> 01:24:31.160]  you have to talk through, I guess they're afraid of the public, the people they work
[01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:41.280]  for, but in talking to Doug Kirk, who is the owner and editor of the, the Verde over by
[01:24:41.280 --> 01:24:48.720]  Canyon Lake, he says, this is typical of Deaton and Guadalupe County, there's at least a
[01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:57.800]  set of lawsuits going on about things going on over there, and possibly a couple of investigations,
[01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:04.240]  but he said right then, he's got information from a guy that lives in McQueenie, that the
[01:25:04.240 --> 01:25:12.400]  municipal court, even though they're not certified, have any officers certified, they're not,
[01:25:12.400 --> 01:25:22.560]  just to administer the traffic code, they're pulling in around 28 million dollars annually,
[01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:23.560]  so I think it's all...
[01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:26.840]  Well, Pat, while you're over there by any chance, did you go see the city secretary
[01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:31.080]  get copies of this judge's oath of office, surety bond and everything?
[01:25:31.080 --> 01:25:40.800]  They don't have one, there is, he's a local attorney, same with the prosecutor, the city
[01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:50.120]  attorney, I looked up the city attorney, he's a preparation, I haven't seen his, the city
[01:25:50.120 --> 01:25:51.120]  yet, but...
[01:25:51.120 --> 01:25:54.880]  Well, both of them are guilty of impersonating public service.
[01:25:54.880 --> 01:26:04.840]  Oh, I understand that, I've been to somewhere between 20 different violets, I think of right
[01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:11.600]  now, I thought you'd enjoy this one though, but I've got to write a couple of letters
[01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:21.800]  this week, everything I've sent in, certified, I've got absolutely back from them, and I
[01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:31.000]  think I will, it was pouring rain going, coming back out onto, he had about a 10 inch rainstorm
[01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  at that time, so I didn't stick around, if I could ask, even I will, but I've got some
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:47.480]  correspondence to the city secretary's office, who's supposed to maintain all those contracts
[01:26:47.480 --> 01:26:55.240]  and everything, and I think the city, I'm not sure how their structure is over there
[01:26:55.240 --> 01:27:03.720]  yet, I'll find it, but I sent you an email, Eddie, if you come up with anything, send
[01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:12.640]  me your thoughts on it, and we'll see how this one flows, but Doug Kirk is getting several
[01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:21.560]  things in the newspaper, he's got 4,000 paid subscripts in his newspaper, so that's a little
[01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:31.760]  newspaper area, and he's well aware and all in that area, so he told me he wants to put
[01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:39.280]  it in the paper, so I'm going to write him a little synopsis, and send him extra administrative
[01:27:39.280 --> 01:27:46.080]  code and the traffic code and stuff that you guys don't mind, and trying to raise awareness
[01:27:46.080 --> 01:27:51.960]  for everybody to go to you guys' website, maybe we can just be able to beat the drum
[01:27:51.960 --> 01:28:03.800]  a little bit, and Randy, there's two people contacting you through remedies in real estate,
[01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:10.520]  one lady's in North Carolina, she was the one that her bank had started foreclosure
[01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:18.280]  against the last month, and she's in dire straits, but she's doing whatever the website
[01:28:18.280 --> 01:28:21.600]  does her due, and she'll be sending them to you.
[01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:24.520]  Okay, have them let me know that you sent them to me.
[01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:27.400]  Yeah, I'll put it in the email to you.
[01:28:27.400 --> 01:28:31.880]  I don't know now, according to the ADL, Randy's probably one of those snake oil salesmen taking
[01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:33.680]  advantage of the foreclosure process.
[01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:38.360]  That's right, you better be careful, I might be sovereign.
[01:28:38.360 --> 01:28:44.080]  I'll bring you a half-foot Western diamond back, just make oil.
[01:28:44.080 --> 01:28:52.560]  I missed it the other day, we had a little baby, probably five and a half feet, so next
[01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:55.680]  time I come to Austin, I'll bring you a snake.
[01:28:55.680 --> 01:29:00.480]  Bring me a couple about four-footers, but I'm not going to barbecue anymore.
[01:29:00.480 --> 01:29:03.000]  You're not going to barbecue them?
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:07.920]  I did that once, rattlesnake does not barbecue well.
[01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.120]  Well, it fries up pretty good.
[01:29:11.120 --> 01:29:13.120]  Yeah, fries better.
[01:29:13.120 --> 01:29:14.120]  Yeah.
[01:29:14.120 --> 01:29:23.680]  Yeah, this is why I give you guys a little thank you, guys up on what we're doing.
[01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:26.680]  All right, thanks, Pat.
[01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:32.840]  But believe me, when they arrive, hop in and the lips start trembling and start moving.
[01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:33.840]  Exactly.
[01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:34.840]  Have a good evening.
[01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:35.840]  Okay, you too, Pat.
[01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:36.840]  Okay, we're cutting the call.
[01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:38.720]  Okay, we're cutting the break now.
[01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:42.880]  When we get back, we're going to talk to Johnny from Missouri, first-time caller, then we
[01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:43.880]  got Gary from Georgia.
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[01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:31.940]  Of
[01:32:31.940 --> 01:32:35.940]  And they kept around me, Chippin' on the beef and you still go eat it
[01:32:35.940 --> 01:32:40.940]  Chippin' on the fish, them all in the sea Chippin' on the shark and the whale around me
[01:32:40.940 --> 01:32:44.940]  You know still mankind gone check crazy They're the cleanest thing, man, they want to be be
[01:32:44.940 --> 01:32:49.940]  Social security, they go tell me Number when they give me, they'll rip it up your seagrass
[01:32:49.940 --> 01:32:54.940]  Chippie when the morning, Chippie when the evening, Chippie when the dinnertime
[01:32:54.940 --> 01:32:58.940]  Experiment on mankind But man, you know, say them lies
[01:32:58.940 --> 01:33:01.940]  Well, we don't want no Chipp, man, you are real, buddy
[01:33:01.940 --> 01:33:06.940]  Freedom or something, man, you fight for me You should tell them, they feel ready
[01:33:06.940 --> 01:33:11.940]  Constitution set us free Not let them put no Chipp in your body
[01:33:11.940 --> 01:33:15.940]  Put no Chipp in your dog or cat, you see No put no Chipp in your cow and go eat it
[01:33:15.940 --> 01:33:20.940]  No put no Chipp in the fish and go eat it All in the whale and the shark in the sea
[01:33:20.940 --> 01:33:25.940]  Put the little Chipp in the little baby Want to put the Chipp in a grandpa, you see
[01:33:25.940 --> 01:33:30.940]  Want to put the little Chipp in an iron body If me go hide in the earth and dizzy
[01:33:30.940 --> 01:33:35.940]  Man did have to lie, me say, go find me Satellite get mad, satellite get angry
[01:33:35.940 --> 01:33:40.940]  Two Chipp them use, me say, cross up, you see Me say, Chipp in the morning, Chipp in the evening
[01:33:40.940 --> 01:33:44.940]  Chipp in your body, buddy Man don't let them come from Chippwee
[01:33:44.940 --> 01:33:49.940]  Put no Chipp in the little baby Me say, Chipp in the morning, Chipp in the morning
[01:33:49.940 --> 01:33:54.940]  Okay, we're back, folks. We are going now to Johnny in Missouri
[01:33:54.940 --> 01:33:58.940]  First time caller, Johnny, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:33:58.940 --> 01:34:04.940]  Hi, I'm the defendant, my ex-wife and I are defendants
[01:34:04.940 --> 01:34:06.940]  Can you kind of speak up a little bit, Johnny?
[01:34:06.940 --> 01:34:14.940]  Yeah, my ex-wife and I are defendants in a civil lawsuit, okay? You there?
[01:34:14.940 --> 01:34:16.940]  Yeah, who's suing you?
[01:34:16.940 --> 01:34:25.940]  Well, somebody that used to be on the radio a lot, but anyhow, we're acting pro se
[01:34:25.940 --> 01:34:30.940]  They have a pretty reputable attorney
[01:34:30.940 --> 01:34:43.940]  And in this case, they had conducted a telephone deposition of a witness that was pretty crucial in the case
[01:34:43.940 --> 01:34:51.940]  And by Missouri law, they were required to notify us 10 days prior to the deposition
[01:34:51.940 --> 01:34:59.940]  So that we would have the opportunity to be present and cross-examine
[01:34:59.940 --> 01:35:06.940]  We got our notice three days after the deposition had actually occurred
[01:35:06.940 --> 01:35:15.940]  And when we got that notice, it showed in there that they had sent that notice out on time
[01:35:15.940 --> 01:35:25.940]  But they sent it, their attorney sent it to a post office that was not our mailing address of record
[01:35:25.940 --> 01:35:36.940]  And in fact, the post office they sent it to wouldn't even have been the correct post office for where we live
[01:35:36.940 --> 01:35:40.940]  They sent a general delivery to this post office
[01:35:40.940 --> 01:35:45.940]  Now, you know, it's not like we go in there every day, you know, and say, hey, have I got mail here?
[01:35:45.940 --> 01:36:00.940]  You know, well, we had a motions hearing and we had filed on that deposition to have it thrown out
[01:36:00.940 --> 01:36:08.940]  Their attorney said, well, hey, we sent it out to them by general delivery
[01:36:08.940 --> 01:36:13.940]  And we never got it back, so we assumed they got it
[01:36:13.940 --> 01:36:23.940]  Well, that was a flat lie, and I know it was, because I went to the post office and got a note from the postmaster there
[01:36:23.940 --> 01:36:29.940]  The postmaster said, yeah, yeah, there was a thing here for you, and it said here 10 days, I sent it back
[01:36:29.940 --> 01:36:33.940]  And she gave me a note to that effect
[01:36:33.940 --> 01:36:43.940]  And we also can prove that they had the correct mailing address to send that to
[01:36:43.940 --> 01:36:50.940]  Now, my question is, do I have grounds to file a grievance with the bar?
[01:36:50.940 --> 01:36:57.940]  You have grounds just because he's breathing, but yes, you do, multiple grounds
[01:36:57.940 --> 01:37:09.940]  Perpetrating fraud upon the court, abuse of process, what else you got, Randy?
[01:37:09.940 --> 01:37:11.940]  Unmuted, Randy
[01:37:11.940 --> 01:37:22.940]  I'm thinking primarily fraud upon the court if they made a statement to the court that they
[01:37:22.940 --> 01:37:26.940]  Well, they told the truth in saying they sent it general delivery
[01:37:26.940 --> 01:37:27.940]  Yeah
[01:37:27.940 --> 01:37:32.940]  But since they had your address, then
[01:37:32.940 --> 01:37:37.940]  Two days later, after they sent that notice
[01:37:37.940 --> 01:37:43.940]  You should file a motion for sanctions against counsel and absolutely bargrieve them
[01:37:43.940 --> 01:37:44.940]  Bargrieve them
[01:37:44.940 --> 01:37:48.940]  And a motion to suppress the deposition
[01:37:48.940 --> 01:37:52.940]  Yeah, well, we did that, all right
[01:37:52.940 --> 01:37:55.940]  Now, I need to file a motion for what now?
[01:37:55.940 --> 01:37:56.940]  Sanctions?
[01:37:56.940 --> 01:38:02.940]  Yeah, ask for sanctions against counsel
[01:38:02.940 --> 01:38:08.940]  For forcing you to have to do all of this to stop their sharp practice
[01:38:08.940 --> 01:38:10.940]  And then make sure you file bar grievance against them
[01:38:10.940 --> 01:38:14.940]  File bar grievance against them every time they move
[01:38:14.940 --> 01:38:19.940]  They're not used to that, that's why they hate procès, because procès grieve them
[01:38:19.940 --> 01:38:23.940]  Right, okay, now how do I go about filing the bargrieve?
[01:38:23.940 --> 01:38:25.940]  What state are you in?
[01:38:25.940 --> 01:38:26.940]  Missouri
[01:38:26.940 --> 01:38:33.940]  Okay, just go to the, just do a search for Missouri State Bar Association
[01:38:33.940 --> 01:38:38.940]  Go to their site, they'll have a grievance form there
[01:38:38.940 --> 01:38:40.940]  Okay
[01:38:40.940 --> 01:38:44.940]  You can download the form, fill it out, send it to them
[01:38:44.940 --> 01:38:45.940]  Okay
[01:38:45.940 --> 01:38:50.940]  And they'll send you a letter saying they examined into your grievance
[01:38:50.940 --> 01:38:54.940]  And find that it does not rise to the level of misconduct
[01:38:54.940 --> 01:38:58.940]  Yeah, I knew that they wouldn't do anything
[01:38:58.940 --> 01:39:01.940]  Send one to the insurance board anyway
[01:39:01.940 --> 01:39:06.940]  You don't have to, the insurance company take care of them anyhow
[01:39:06.940 --> 01:39:12.940]  Right, you know, this law firm, they're very well known here
[01:39:12.940 --> 01:39:17.940]  And this guy thinks he's pretty well just walk over, do whatever
[01:39:17.940 --> 01:39:22.940]  I mean, they drag us through court, we can count on being in court every month
[01:39:22.940 --> 01:39:24.940]  Over something juicy
[01:39:24.940 --> 01:39:30.940]  I mean, we can count on it, just like clockwork, this has been going on for eight months
[01:39:30.940 --> 01:39:31.940]  Yeah
[01:39:31.940 --> 01:39:36.940]  Well, just let him count on a bargrievance every month
[01:39:36.940 --> 01:39:38.940]  Right
[01:39:38.940 --> 01:39:42.940]  Every time you show up in court, grieve him
[01:39:42.940 --> 01:39:48.940]  If he says a word about it in court, grieve him for that
[01:39:48.940 --> 01:39:53.940]  Alright, so the main thing is that he's perpetrating fraud upon the court
[01:39:53.940 --> 01:39:55.940]  Yes
[01:39:55.940 --> 01:39:58.940]  Okay, and was there any other little points there?
[01:39:58.940 --> 01:40:06.940]  Well, look in the Missouri standards of, whatever they call them,
[01:40:06.940 --> 01:40:09.940]  the Bar Association Standards for Missouri
[01:40:09.940 --> 01:40:16.940]  And write your complaint in the verbiage of one of the standards
[01:40:16.940 --> 01:40:20.940]  We had them in Texas say, well, you didn't write it in the verbiage of a standard
[01:40:20.940 --> 01:40:24.940]  So it was just a request for mediation
[01:40:24.940 --> 01:40:27.940]  So write your complaint, you know, look at the standards
[01:40:27.940 --> 01:40:31.940]  It'll be easy to find one that shows they violated
[01:40:31.940 --> 01:40:34.940]  And write it in terms of that standard
[01:40:34.940 --> 01:40:38.940]  Right, okay
[01:40:38.940 --> 01:40:43.940]  Yeah, like I said, this thing is getting very complicated
[01:40:43.940 --> 01:40:46.940]  And of course the judge, you know, every time we go to court
[01:40:46.940 --> 01:40:49.940]  the judge is like, you know, you guys really need to get an attorney
[01:40:49.940 --> 01:40:53.940]  because this is just getting deep, you know
[01:40:53.940 --> 01:40:59.940]  And every time we go in there, basically, the judge is ruled in our favor
[01:40:59.940 --> 01:41:04.940]  For example, during that, oh, I forget what it was
[01:41:04.940 --> 01:41:08.940]  Now some injunctions that they were trying to get against us or something
[01:41:08.940 --> 01:41:13.940]  Anyway, that's when this deposition got brought up
[01:41:13.940 --> 01:41:21.940]  And we had, two days after he sent that general delivery, that notice
[01:41:21.940 --> 01:41:27.940]  Two days later he sent something else and sent it to our correct address
[01:41:27.940 --> 01:41:30.940]  So he left a paper trail there to prove
[01:41:30.940 --> 01:41:39.940]  Besides that, we already had, we know that their law office had our mailing address
[01:41:39.940 --> 01:41:44.940]  well before that deposition was sent out or notice of
[01:41:44.940 --> 01:41:47.940]  Right, well you should be able to show since you've been in court that regularly
[01:41:47.940 --> 01:41:50.940]  you would have had to have been receiving notices
[01:41:50.940 --> 01:41:53.940]  In which case, any time the other side files something
[01:41:53.940 --> 01:41:56.940]  they're required to give you notice of the filing and to send you a copy of it
[01:41:56.940 --> 01:42:02.940]  So you would have had communications from that law firm predating the deposition, I would presume
[01:42:02.940 --> 01:42:05.940]  that shows that they knew the correct address
[01:42:05.940 --> 01:42:08.940]  That right there is grounds for one of your bar grievances
[01:42:08.940 --> 01:42:16.940]  and the charge of perpetrating fraud upon the court would intend to mislead the court
[01:42:16.940 --> 01:42:22.940]  to garner an advantage in an unethical fashion
[01:42:22.940 --> 01:42:27.940]  Right, that's the whole deal, you know, this is totally unethical
[01:42:27.940 --> 01:42:32.940]  Yeah, so I'd find out if there's an ethics committee involved
[01:42:32.940 --> 01:42:38.940]  besides just the bar grievance, is there an ethics committee that you can file with also?
[01:42:38.940 --> 01:42:44.940]  I don't know
[01:42:44.940 --> 01:42:53.940]  If there's a judicial ethics committee in your state, then I would file with them just as well as I would the bar
[01:42:53.940 --> 01:42:54.940]  Okay
[01:42:54.940 --> 01:42:59.940]  And I'd see if I could get him a little review hearing
[01:42:59.940 --> 01:43:06.940]  It sounds like you have a judge that is at least attempting to be fair
[01:43:06.940 --> 01:43:13.940]  She is, yeah, we're actually very happy with this judge
[01:43:13.940 --> 01:43:18.940]  Yeah, then definitely use her to your advantage and file that motion for sanctions
[01:43:18.940 --> 01:43:25.940]  and find as many different reasons to file as many different sanctions against this attorney as you can
[01:43:25.940 --> 01:43:32.940]  Every time he sneezes in the direction of your table, file a sanction for trying to get you sick to get you out of court
[01:43:32.940 --> 01:43:40.940]  Okay, all right, yeah, they're pulling more goodies now, that's for sure
[01:43:40.940 --> 01:43:43.940]  Okay, thanks for calling in, Johnny
[01:43:43.940 --> 01:43:44.940]  Thank you
[01:43:44.940 --> 01:43:47.940]  Okay, when we get back, we're going to go to Galen in Maryland
[01:43:47.940 --> 01:43:49.940]  Sorry, we're putting off some of the other callers
[01:43:49.940 --> 01:43:52.940]  We want to get the first-time callers first, so we will be right back
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[01:45:23.940 --> 01:45:26.940]  So, folks, try to call in earlier next time
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[01:45:30.940 --> 01:45:32.940]  We've got Galen in Maryland
[01:45:32.940 --> 01:45:34.940]  Galen, thanks for calling in
[01:45:34.940 --> 01:45:36.940]  What is your question for us tonight?
[01:45:36.940 --> 01:45:38.940]  Good evening, folks
[01:45:38.940 --> 01:45:42.940]  I've got a question about getting the driving after suspension
[01:45:42.940 --> 01:45:49.940]  In Maryland, they require you get your car smog checked, emissions checked every so often
[01:45:49.940 --> 01:45:57.940]  If you don't get it done by their schedule, they charge you like $15 an extra every month that it's not done
[01:45:57.940 --> 01:46:00.940]  And so I have a car I don't use very often
[01:46:00.940 --> 01:46:02.940]  And I just let it last
[01:46:02.940 --> 01:46:05.940]  It's been well over a year, so you can imagine what that's going to cost me
[01:46:05.940 --> 01:46:08.940]  But anyway, I was getting ready to go somewhere
[01:46:08.940 --> 01:46:14.940]  And I took this car to the airport to leave in a long-term parking
[01:46:14.940 --> 01:46:22.940]  And as I drove by an officer in the terminal area, he apparently had a computer that ran my plate
[01:46:22.940 --> 01:46:25.940]  And said, oh, they're suspended, so he pulled me over and gave me a ticket
[01:46:25.940 --> 01:46:29.940]  Now, I've been looking at this right-to-travel stuff
[01:46:29.940 --> 01:46:31.940]  I'm just wondering what your opinion is
[01:46:31.940 --> 01:46:35.940]  Should I try to fight this and what grounds should I use?
[01:46:35.940 --> 01:46:39.940]  Well, that all depends upon how familiar you are with the statutes in question
[01:46:39.940 --> 01:46:46.940]  If you don't know the law that you're fighting against, then you're better off not trying until you do know it
[01:46:46.940 --> 01:46:53.940]  Because all you're going to do is put yourself in a place where you're going to wind up probably paying more than you would have on paying the fine
[01:46:53.940 --> 01:46:59.940]  And you're going to set a bad precedent for the person that comes behind you that might know how to fight it
[01:46:59.940 --> 01:47:01.940]  Okay
[01:47:01.940 --> 01:47:08.940]  But until you, the best thing you can do is study it, learn it, take it apart
[01:47:08.940 --> 01:47:18.940]  Once you're confident in what you honestly feel that it is saying versus what you're being told that it says, you stand a much better chance of fighting it
[01:47:18.940 --> 01:47:26.940]  But if you go in there just based upon this, what I'm presuming from the way you said it, is some knowledge of the right-to-travel
[01:47:26.940 --> 01:47:33.940]  Instead of the full knowledge of the law of your state in regards to the right to travel, then you're fighting a losing battle
[01:47:33.940 --> 01:47:34.940]  Okay
[01:47:34.940 --> 01:47:42.940]  Because you're not going to know the arguments you need to be making, you're not going to know the law that supports you, and all you're going to do is get steamrolled
[01:47:42.940 --> 01:47:48.940]  So I head to the law library and otherwise pay the fine?
[01:47:48.940 --> 01:47:51.940]  When do you have to go to court on it?
[01:47:51.940 --> 01:47:54.940]  First of next month
[01:47:54.940 --> 01:47:58.940]  Okay, it's taken me 11 years to become as familiar with it as I am
[01:47:58.940 --> 01:48:00.940]  I think you'll make it
[01:48:00.940 --> 01:48:02.940]  I'm not that smart
[01:48:02.940 --> 01:48:05.940]  Smart's got nothing to do with it, persistence does
[01:48:05.940 --> 01:48:06.940]  Yes
[01:48:06.940 --> 01:48:10.940]  If you can read and comprehend, you can figure it out
[01:48:10.940 --> 01:48:14.940]  And I'd be looking for the Maryland driver's statute or?
[01:48:14.940 --> 01:48:24.940]  You'd be looking in what basically is the Maryland Department of Motor Vehicles Code, Transportation Code, whatever it is they call it
[01:48:24.940 --> 01:48:34.940]  You'd be looking at the case law for the state to see what previous rulings of previous courts have said on the subject regarding the right to travel
[01:48:34.940 --> 01:48:39.940]  Versus the privilege of driving in commerce and so on and so forth
[01:48:39.940 --> 01:48:41.940]  Okay
[01:48:41.940 --> 01:48:48.940]  All right, well thank you very much, I'll look at it, and if I feel confident I'll do it, if not I'll pay the fine and move on
[01:48:48.940 --> 01:48:50.940]  All right, thanks, Gayle
[01:48:50.940 --> 01:48:51.940]  Thanks
[01:48:51.940 --> 01:48:55.940]  Okay, we're going now to Jordan Henry in California, another first-time caller
[01:48:55.940 --> 01:48:59.940]  Jordan Henry, thanks for calling in, what's your question for us tonight?
[01:48:59.940 --> 01:49:02.940]  Hi, Randy, it's an honor to speak with you tonight
[01:49:02.940 --> 01:49:08.940]  Basically we talked to you about two weeks ago, that's my brother we talked to prior to myself
[01:49:08.940 --> 01:49:15.940]  It's the same kind of situation, I hope I'm not reiterating the same thing you spoke about, January 19, 2010
[01:49:15.940 --> 01:49:18.940]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, who's your brother?
[01:49:18.940 --> 01:49:22.940]  My brother is Jay Metabesh
[01:49:22.940 --> 01:49:24.940]  Two weeks ago, about two weeks ago
[01:49:24.940 --> 01:49:25.940]  Don't remember
[01:49:25.940 --> 01:49:26.940]  A month and a week to be exact
[01:49:26.940 --> 01:49:29.940]  I'm too old for that
[01:49:29.940 --> 01:49:31.940]  I've talked to too many people
[01:49:31.940 --> 01:49:36.940]  You recommended we ask for a continuance, I went into court, I specifically did so
[01:49:36.940 --> 01:49:43.940]  I was one of the hundred people who didn't say guilty and spoke to the magistrate on these terms
[01:49:43.940 --> 01:49:46.940]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on, hold on, Jordan, hold on, hold on
[01:49:46.940 --> 01:49:54.940]  This is a radio show and we have tens of thousands of listeners and so none of the rest of us have any idea what you're talking about whatsoever
[01:49:54.940 --> 01:49:56.940]  This isn't Randy's personal cell phone
[01:49:56.940 --> 01:50:03.940]  Okay, so why don't you bring us up to speed and give us a little bit of information on the case so that we can understand what's going on here
[01:50:03.940 --> 01:50:04.940]  My pleasure, my pleasure
[01:50:04.940 --> 01:50:06.940]  Okay, thank you
[01:50:06.940 --> 01:50:08.940]  My pleasure
[01:50:08.940 --> 01:50:15.940]  January 19, 2010, traveling on the highway, exceeding 65 miles an hour
[01:50:15.940 --> 01:50:20.940]  When I travel, I travel, I don't drive commercially
[01:50:20.940 --> 01:50:26.940]  So anyway, CHP pulls me in and I say to him, I said I'm not a commercial executioner
[01:50:26.940 --> 01:50:28.940]  You're in California?
[01:50:28.940 --> 01:50:30.940]  That's right, that's right, I say I'm traveling
[01:50:30.940 --> 01:50:31.940]  Okay
[01:50:31.940 --> 01:50:36.940]  I'm not a commercial person
[01:50:36.940 --> 01:50:43.940]  And anyhow, he didn't understand, he calls in his superior, I got four CHPs at my door
[01:50:43.940 --> 01:50:47.940]  And well, they basically don't understand what I'm saying
[01:50:47.940 --> 01:50:57.940]  And even all my license, driver's license, it says UCC 1-207 without prejudice
[01:50:57.940 --> 01:51:04.940]  And the younger cohorts there, they wanted to understand what I was saying and the superior got very upset
[01:51:04.940 --> 01:51:12.940]  So they hauled me off to the county jail and that's where a real sad story began
[01:51:12.940 --> 01:51:23.940]  They forced processing on me and even threw me in psychiatric with no clothes on and even taped me getting stripped down as female deputy holding a video camera
[01:51:23.940 --> 01:51:28.940]  So anyhow, you guys recommended to my brother, he called in about a month or so ago
[01:51:28.940 --> 01:51:32.940]  And so I went in there and I asked for a continuance
[01:51:32.940 --> 01:51:40.940]  And the magistrate there, he was actually quite impressed that I wasn't as robotic as all the other millions of people he's seen
[01:51:40.940 --> 01:51:42.940]  He even told me good luck
[01:51:42.940 --> 01:51:47.940]  Anyhow, I got the counts or the complaints against me right in front of me, would you like to hear them?
[01:51:47.940 --> 01:51:49.940]  Yes
[01:51:49.940 --> 01:51:55.940]  All right, count one, failure to submit to an inspection misdemeanor, count two
[01:51:55.940 --> 01:51:58.940]  An inspection of what?
[01:51:58.940 --> 01:52:08.940]  Well, a commercial vehicle, you know, under the essence that I was driving as like let's say a trucker with commercial goods or so
[01:52:08.940 --> 01:52:11.940]  Okay, well let me ask you a question on these charges that you're reading to us
[01:52:11.940 --> 01:52:17.940]  Have you actually gone to the statutes themselves and read what the charges encompass?
[01:52:17.940 --> 01:52:28.940]  Absolutely, when I went to the court and I followed your instructions, the district attorney gave me this paperwork here in front of me
[01:52:28.940 --> 01:52:32.940]  that explains in detail what these complaints render here
[01:52:32.940 --> 01:52:41.940]  That's not what I'm asking you, I don't care what the district attorney gave you, did you go read the law that that charge comes from?
[01:52:41.940 --> 01:52:47.940]  Yeah, it says about the same thing
[01:52:47.940 --> 01:52:51.940]  Okay, wait, about is not the same, okay? Remember that
[01:52:51.940 --> 01:52:52.940]  Okay
[01:52:52.940 --> 01:52:55.940]  Like things are not the same, okay?
[01:52:55.940 --> 01:52:57.940]  All right, okay
[01:52:57.940 --> 01:53:01.940]  Words are very, very important when it comes to these statutes
[01:53:01.940 --> 01:53:09.940]  What the district attorney's sheet may say may not be verbatim what's in the law in question, and that is very important
[01:53:09.940 --> 01:53:11.940]  I understand, I understand
[01:53:11.940 --> 01:53:18.940]  All right, well for the sake of continuance here for your radio show, shall I repeat the second count?
[01:53:18.940 --> 01:53:19.940]  Yes, go ahead
[01:53:19.940 --> 01:53:23.940]  Okay, all right, to resist and obstruct an officer, okay?
[01:53:23.940 --> 01:53:27.940]  Now let me kind of wrap this up because I know you guys got to be concise
[01:53:27.940 --> 01:53:35.940]  The situation was that I explained to this officer who I actually know as a private security guard
[01:53:35.940 --> 01:53:42.940]  That, hey, I'm under the right of travel, you know, I'm not a commercial driver, okay?
[01:53:42.940 --> 01:53:48.940]  Because he didn't understand this expression, took me down to jailhouse
[01:53:48.940 --> 01:53:57.940]  Once they put me in the jailhouse, I told these sheriffs, I said, look, I said, you know, I'm not of your jurisdiction
[01:53:57.940 --> 01:54:04.940]  And they forced processing on me and because they didn't like that I had something intelligible to say
[01:54:04.940 --> 01:54:08.940]  They threw me in the psychiatric ward just to really put the hurt on me
[01:54:08.940 --> 01:54:15.940]  And when they evaluated me the next morning with the psychiatric woman there, she smiled and laughed
[01:54:15.940 --> 01:54:18.940]  And she said, oh, so they thought you were a smart aleck, huh?
[01:54:18.940 --> 01:54:22.940]  And I said, oh, so you understand the way these guys work
[01:54:22.940 --> 01:54:24.940]  And you know, that's about it
[01:54:24.940 --> 01:54:28.940]  Other than that, they charged me with exceeding 65 miles per hour
[01:54:28.940 --> 01:54:33.940]  So all I'm basically saying is, look, I was traveling these highways, I'm an American
[01:54:33.940 --> 01:54:36.940]  All right, I travel, I don't drive
[01:54:36.940 --> 01:54:38.940]  And they got charges against me
[01:54:38.940 --> 01:54:45.940]  And as a matter of fact, I'm going into court tomorrow to tell Mr. Magistrate, hey, you know what?
[01:54:45.940 --> 01:54:48.940]  I understand that you're the magistrate of this vessel
[01:54:48.940 --> 01:54:52.940]  And turns out you're taking a ride on your boat
[01:54:52.940 --> 01:54:56.940]  You're off on the wrong track already
[01:54:56.940 --> 01:54:59.940]  Please don't go into the UCC redemption stuff
[01:54:59.940 --> 01:55:03.940]  You are going to get steamrolled
[01:55:03.940 --> 01:55:04.940]  Okay
[01:55:04.940 --> 01:55:08.940]  California law is very, very clear as to who it applies to
[01:55:08.940 --> 01:55:13.940]  And it says right there in the statutes dealing with motor vehicles and driver's licenses
[01:55:13.940 --> 01:55:15.940]  That it is all commercial
[01:55:15.940 --> 01:55:20.940]  It is out of every state in the union other than Washington state
[01:55:20.940 --> 01:55:28.940]  That it has the clearest statutes in all of the states to say it is for commercial motor vehicles and drivers only
[01:55:28.940 --> 01:55:35.940]  There's no reason to go off on these back roads and dirt trails that are just going to do nothing
[01:55:35.940 --> 01:55:41.940]  But kick up a cloud of dust that's going to wind up getting you in the middle of a fender bender that you're not going to survive
[01:55:41.940 --> 01:55:43.940]  Okay, all right
[01:55:43.940 --> 01:55:47.940]  Learn the law dealing with the subject matter
[01:55:47.940 --> 01:55:50.940]  Okay, I can't say that enough
[01:55:50.940 --> 01:55:54.940]  Learn the specific law dealing with the subject matter at hand
[01:55:54.940 --> 01:55:55.940]  That's all you need
[01:55:55.940 --> 01:55:57.940]  Okay
[01:55:57.940 --> 01:56:01.940]  Can I say this to you real quick, Mr. Kelton?
[01:56:01.940 --> 01:56:04.940]  This is Eddie, actually
[01:56:04.940 --> 01:56:06.940]  Oh, this is Eddie, okay
[01:56:06.940 --> 01:56:08.940]  I thought I was talking to Randy
[01:56:08.940 --> 01:56:10.940]  I'm here, I'm listening
[01:56:10.940 --> 01:56:16.940]  When I put on my driver's license, UCC 1-207
[01:56:16.940 --> 01:56:19.940]  If you go looking at those codes
[01:56:19.940 --> 01:56:26.940]  What it says is that is a direct statement saying that this contract is void
[01:56:26.940 --> 01:56:27.940]  And that
[01:56:27.940 --> 01:56:28.940]  Whoa, hold on
[01:56:28.940 --> 01:56:29.940]  No, it is not
[01:56:29.940 --> 01:56:30.940]  Wait a minute
[01:56:30.940 --> 01:56:31.940]  It is not
[01:56:31.940 --> 01:56:36.940]  It is a statement that says you do not surrender any of your rights in order to enter into the contract
[01:56:36.940 --> 01:56:37.940]  Wait a minute
[01:56:37.940 --> 01:56:39.940]  It is not saying the contract is void
[01:56:39.940 --> 01:56:40.940]  Wait a minute, guys
[01:56:40.940 --> 01:56:46.940]  UCC, what does UCC apply to?
[01:56:46.940 --> 01:56:48.940]  It's the Uniform Commercial Code
[01:56:48.940 --> 01:56:54.940]  Yes, it applies to the sale of goods and services
[01:56:54.940 --> 01:56:55.940]  Absolutely
[01:56:55.940 --> 01:57:01.940]  You are trying to apply the UCC code where it does not apply
[01:57:01.940 --> 01:57:02.940]  Okay
[01:57:02.940 --> 01:57:07.940]  That's why Eddie is saying that you need to study the statutes that govern the situation
[01:57:07.940 --> 01:57:10.940]  Like the Transportation Code of California
[01:57:10.940 --> 01:57:13.940]  Don't use the UCC, that's for sale of goods and services
[01:57:13.940 --> 01:57:18.940]  And besides, you said yourself that you don't engage in commerce on the roadways
[01:57:18.940 --> 01:57:21.940]  So why go there? You're a traveler
[01:57:21.940 --> 01:57:23.940]  Absolutely, that's what I'm declaring
[01:57:23.940 --> 01:57:29.940]  I'm saying, hey, I'm saying you guys are trying to pull me up on commercial regulation
[01:57:29.940 --> 01:57:32.940]  And I am not in association with
[01:57:32.940 --> 01:57:34.940]  So it sounds like there's a miscommunication here
[01:57:34.940 --> 01:57:41.940]  Because I'm being communicated to by your educated party that do not bring in the UCC
[01:57:41.940 --> 01:57:42.940]  Well, wait a minute
[01:57:42.940 --> 01:57:44.940]  They may not be bringing in the UCC
[01:57:44.940 --> 01:57:48.940]  They're probably just bringing in the Transportation Code of California
[01:57:48.940 --> 01:57:56.940]  In Texas, the Texas Transportation Code only applies if someone is engaging in commercial activity on the roadways
[01:57:56.940 --> 01:58:01.940]  Which is either transporting goods or passengers for hire on the roads
[01:58:01.940 --> 01:58:04.940]  So you don't even need to go to the UCC
[01:58:04.940 --> 01:58:08.940]  That's why Eddie is saying you need to study the Transportation Code first
[01:58:08.940 --> 01:58:12.940]  All right, is the radio coming in because you guys got to cut the commercial?
[01:58:12.940 --> 01:58:14.940]  Yes, the show is actually coming to an end
[01:58:14.940 --> 01:58:20.940]  So Jordan, thanks for calling in and why don't you call in tomorrow night and we'll discuss this some more
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[01:58:25.940 --> 01:58:27.940]  So that's 6 to 10 your time tomorrow night
[01:58:27.940 --> 01:58:29.940]  Okay, thank you very much
[01:58:29.940 --> 01:58:30.940]  All right, thank you
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[01:59:25.940 --> 01:59:29.940]  I'm like a stepping eraser
[01:59:29.940 --> 01:59:31.940]  Don't watch my sides
[01:59:31.940 --> 01:59:33.940]  I'm dangerous
[01:59:33.940 --> 01:59:35.940]  I'm dangerous
[01:59:35.940 --> 01:59:37.940]  I'm like a stepping eraser
[01:59:37.940 --> 01:59:39.940]  Don't watch my sides
[01:59:39.940 --> 01:59:41.940]  I'm dangerous
[01:59:41.940 --> 01:59:42.940]  Dangerous
[01:59:42.940 --> 01:59:45.940]  Let you eat, I'm the boss
[01:59:45.940 --> 01:59:49.940]  You better treat me good
[01:59:49.940 --> 01:59:52.940]  It's a treat, let's go
[01:59:52.940 --> 01:59:56.940]  You better treat me good