[00:00.000 --> 00:04.400]  This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[00:04.400 --> 00:09.440]  Omri and Gilad Sharon, sons of former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon,
[00:09.440 --> 00:13.840]  allegedly brokered $3 million in bribes that were transferred to their father.
[00:13.840 --> 00:17.840]  Israel's National Fraud Squad has recommended Omri and Gilad Sharon
[00:17.840 --> 00:23.520]  be indicted for mediating bribery and to indict Austrian magnate Martin Schlaff for bribery.
[00:23.520 --> 00:30.640]  Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, Wednesday, demanded the $33 billion war funding bill
[00:30.640 --> 00:36.400]  be approved by Independence Day. Last year, Barack Obama promised future war expenses
[00:36.400 --> 00:41.120]  would be paid from a record defense budget. However, that promise fell by the wayside
[00:41.120 --> 00:47.760]  due to the troop surge. China's holdings of US debt climbed to the highest level this year,
[00:47.760 --> 00:52.000]  even as Beijing stepped up a tax on the US for its burgeoning debt.
[00:52.000 --> 00:58.000]  The cash-rich Chinese government raised its US Treasury bond holdings to $900 billion in April,
[00:58.000 --> 01:03.520]  its highest level since November. China was followed by Japan with $795 billion
[01:03.520 --> 01:10.400]  and Britain with $239 billion. This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet.
[01:10.400 --> 01:15.520]  Turkey sent hundreds of elite troops into northern Iraq Wednesday to chase Kurdish gorillas.
[01:15.520 --> 01:20.720]  Turkish soldiers killed four escaping rebels. The Turkish military has repeatedly staged air
[01:20.720 --> 01:26.320]  and ground assaults against Kurdish rebel bases in northern Iraq. Iraq Kurds have been cooperating
[01:26.320 --> 01:32.880]  with Turkey in its fight against the rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK. Rebels have
[01:32.880 --> 01:37.920]  stepped up attacks in Turkey, killing more than 30 soldiers in recent months and causing public
[01:37.920 --> 01:44.160]  outrage. Many PKK gorillas shelter in the mountains of neighboring Iraq, crossing the border for hit
[01:44.160 --> 01:50.240]  and run assaults. Public fury and the escalating military response threatened to derail an already
[01:50.240 --> 01:56.000]  faltering government effort to defuse the insurgency by granting unprecedented cultural
[01:56.000 --> 02:01.120]  and political freedoms to Turkey's Kurds, the country's largest minority group.
[02:02.800 --> 02:08.160]  While an Iranian aid ship steamed toward the Gaza Strip, Israel's navy was put on high alert
[02:08.160 --> 02:13.680]  amid fears yet another peace flotilla would be launched from Lebanon, leaving due to the short
[02:13.680 --> 02:18.880]  distance, little time to stop it. The Israeli military is concerned Hezbollah operatives could
[02:18.880 --> 02:25.120]  be aboard. The navy will likely first try to stop the ships by calling them to stop at sea, far from
[02:25.120 --> 02:30.720]  the Gaza coast. If that fails, the navy was prepared to carry out an operation like the one
[02:30.720 --> 02:36.960]  two weeks ago against the flotilla from Turkey. Meanwhile, Bulent Yildirim, head of the Turkish
[02:36.960 --> 02:42.880]  organization IHH, which was behind the flotilla stopped by Israel, announced Wednesday his
[02:42.880 --> 02:48.800]  organization would send six more ships to Gaza in July. He said family members of the nine Turks
[02:48.800 --> 02:53.760]  killed on board the Mavi Marmara have requested to join the IHH flotilla.
[03:18.800 --> 03:46.960]  Bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:46.960 --> 03:54.240]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Bad boys, bad boys,
[03:54.240 --> 04:01.360]  what are you going to do when we come for you? Here we are on the rule of law. Randy Kelton,
[04:01.360 --> 04:06.880]  Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens. We're taking your calls tonight. Folks, if you'd like to call in,
[04:06.880 --> 04:17.120]  512-646-1984. Tomorrow night, we're going to have Steve, the financial analyst, on. Tonight,
[04:17.120 --> 04:21.840]  we're taking your calls and Eddie has some material to present. He's got some stuff to
[04:21.840 --> 04:26.880]  talk about concerning an act that's in progress in the New Hampshire state legislature. So,
[04:26.880 --> 04:33.840]  go ahead, Eddie. Okay, I spent the day going through this piece by piece. This was originally
[04:33.840 --> 04:40.880]  sent to me in an email as far as the subject matter of the bill. The actual bill itself was
[04:40.880 --> 04:45.920]  not, but a link to it was. So, I've been reading through it and studying it today. Folks, if we
[04:45.920 --> 04:53.440]  could get every state of the union to pass this bill as their own, the federal government as we
[04:53.440 --> 05:02.160]  know it is history overnight. I mean, it is absolutely gutted from the get-go. What I want
[05:02.160 --> 05:07.280]  to do is the bill itself is fairly short. So, I want to read this to you and I want you to
[05:07.280 --> 05:12.960]  be thinking about exactly what this says. This goes beyond even a 10th Amendment bill, okay?
[05:14.720 --> 05:22.160]  This is what it reads. A resolution affirming states' rights based on Jeffersonian principles.
[05:22.160 --> 05:29.680]  This is the state of New Hampshire in the year of our Lord 2009. Whereas the Constitution of the
[05:29.680 --> 05:34.080]  state of New Hampshire, Part I, Article VII, declares that the people of this state have
[05:34.080 --> 05:39.600]  the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent state,
[05:40.320 --> 05:47.920]  and do and forever hereafter shall exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right
[05:47.920 --> 05:55.520]  pertaining thereto, which is not or may not hereafter be by them expressly delegated to
[05:55.520 --> 06:01.600]  the United States of America and Congress assembled. And whereas the Constitution of
[06:01.600 --> 06:06.480]  the state of New Hampshire, Part II, Article I, declares that the people inhabiting the territory
[06:06.480 --> 06:11.520]  formally called the province of New Hampshire do hereby solemnly and mutually agree with each
[06:11.520 --> 06:18.160]  other to form themselves into a free, sovereign, and independent body politic or state by the name
[06:18.160 --> 06:23.440]  of the state of New Hampshire. And whereas the state of New Hampshire, when ratifying the
[06:23.440 --> 06:28.960]  Constitution for the United States of America, recommended as a change, first that it be
[06:28.960 --> 06:34.960]  explicitly declared that all powers not expressly and particularly delegated by the aforesaid
[06:34.960 --> 06:42.080]  are reserved to the several states to be by them exercised. And whereas the other states that
[06:42.080 --> 06:48.560]  included recommendations to wit Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island, and Virginia
[06:48.560 --> 06:55.040]  included an identical or similar recommended change, and whereas these recommended changes
[06:55.040 --> 06:59.520]  were incorporated as the Ninth Amendment, the enumeration in the Constitution of certain
[06:59.520 --> 07:05.200]  rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
[07:05.200 --> 07:10.240]  And the Tenth Amendment, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor
[07:10.240 --> 07:15.920]  prohibited by it to the states are reserved to the states respectively or to the people.
[07:15.920 --> 07:23.280]  To the Constitution of the United States of America, now therefore be it. Resolved by the
[07:23.280 --> 07:28.800]  House of Representatives, the Senate concurring, that the several states composing the United
[07:28.800 --> 07:34.400]  States of America are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government,
[07:34.960 --> 07:41.200]  but that, by a compact, under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States
[07:41.200 --> 07:47.040]  and of amendments thereto, they constituted a general government for special purposes,
[07:47.040 --> 07:52.960]  delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving each state to itself the
[07:52.960 --> 07:59.360]  residuary mass of right to their own self-government, and that whatsoever or whensoever the general
[07:59.360 --> 08:06.640]  government assumes undelegated powers, it acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force,
[08:06.640 --> 08:13.040]  that to this compact each state is seated as a state and is an integral party, its co-states
[08:13.040 --> 08:19.120]  forming as to itself the other party, that the government created by this compact was not made
[08:19.120 --> 08:25.200]  the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself, since that would have
[08:25.200 --> 08:32.560]  made its discretion and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers, but that as in all other
[08:32.560 --> 08:38.960]  cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge
[08:38.960 --> 08:46.000]  for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress, and that the Constitution
[08:46.000 --> 08:51.200]  of the United States, having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the
[08:51.200 --> 08:57.120]  securities and current coin of the United States, piracies and felonies committed on the high seas,
[08:57.120 --> 09:04.320]  and offenses against the law of nations, slavery, and no other crimes whatsoever, and it being true
[09:04.320 --> 09:09.680]  as a general principle and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared that
[09:09.680 --> 09:15.600]  the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the
[09:15.600 --> 09:21.840]  states are reserved to the states respectively or to the people, therefore all acts of Congress which
[09:21.840 --> 09:29.040]  is assumed to create, define, or punish crimes other than those so enumerated in the Constitution
[09:29.040 --> 09:36.080]  are altogether void and of no force, and that the power to create, define, and punish such other
[09:36.080 --> 09:42.640]  crimes is reserved and of right appertained solely and exclusively to the respective states,
[09:42.640 --> 09:50.960]  each within its own territory, and that it is a true or that it is true as a general principle
[09:50.960 --> 09:55.920]  and also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the Constitution that the powers
[09:55.920 --> 10:01.520]  not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the states
[10:01.520 --> 10:06.960]  are reserved to the states respectively or to the people, and that no power over the freedom of
[10:06.960 --> 10:11.760]  religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the United States by
[10:11.760 --> 10:17.920]  the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same
[10:17.920 --> 10:23.520]  did of right remain and were reserved to the states or the people, that thus was manifested
[10:23.520 --> 10:28.720]  their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of
[10:28.720 --> 10:34.160]  speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those
[10:34.160 --> 10:38.960]  abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be
[10:38.960 --> 10:44.720]  destroyed, and thus also they guarded against all abridgment by the United States of the freedom of
[10:44.720 --> 10:49.600]  religious opinions and exercises, and retained to themselves the right of protecting the same,
[10:50.240 --> 10:55.440]  and that in addition to this general principle and express declaration, another more special
[10:55.440 --> 11:00.160]  provision has been made by one of the amendments to the Constitution which expressly declares that
[11:00.800 --> 11:05.440]  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the
[11:05.440 --> 11:11.520]  free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, thereby guarding in the
[11:11.520 --> 11:17.200]  same sentence and under the same words the freedom of religion, of speech, and of the press,
[11:17.200 --> 11:22.400]  insomuch that whatever violated either throws down the sanctuary which covers the others,
[11:22.400 --> 11:27.520]  and that liables, falsehood, and defamation, equally with heresy and false religion,
[11:27.520 --> 11:32.960]  are withheld from the cognizance of federal tribunals, that therefore all acts of Congress
[11:32.960 --> 11:37.360]  of the United States which do abridge the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
[11:37.360 --> 11:44.880]  freedom of the press, are not law, but are altogether void and of no force, and that the
[11:44.880 --> 11:50.480]  Constitution applied by the general government, as is evidenced by sundry of their proceedings,
[11:50.480 --> 11:56.080]  to those parts of the Constitution of the United States which delegate to Congress a power to lay
[11:56.080 --> 12:01.680]  and collect taxes, duties, imports, and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense
[12:01.680 --> 12:06.560]  and general welfare of the United States, and to make all laws which shall be necessary and
[12:06.560 --> 12:11.440]  proper for carrying into execution the powers vested by the Constitution in the government of
[12:11.440 --> 12:17.200]  the United States, or in any department or officer thereof, goes to the destruction of all limits
[12:17.200 --> 12:21.920]  prescribed to their power by the Constitution. That word is meant by that instrument to be
[12:21.920 --> 12:27.680]  subsidiary only to the execution of limited powers, ought not be so construed as themselves
[12:27.680 --> 12:33.360]  to give unlimited powers, nor a part to be so taken as to destroy the whole residue of that
[12:33.360 --> 12:38.240]  instrument, that the proceedings of the general government under color of these articles will be
[12:38.240 --> 12:47.120]  a fit and necessary subject of revisal and correction, and that a committee of conference
[12:47.120 --> 12:51.680]  and correspondence be appointed which shall have as its charge to communicate the proceeding
[12:51.680 --> 12:57.360]  resolutions to the legislatures of the several states, to assure them that this state continues
[12:57.360 --> 13:02.480]  in the same esteem of their friendship and union which it has manifested from that moment at which
[13:02.480 --> 13:09.680]  a common danger first suggested a common union, that it considers union for specified national
[13:09.680 --> 13:14.880]  purposes, and particularly to those specified in their federal compact, to be friendly to the
[13:14.880 --> 13:20.240]  peace, happiness, and prosperity of all the states, that faithful to that compact, according to the
[13:20.240 --> 13:25.440]  plain intent and meaning in which it was understood and acceded to by the several parties, it is
[13:25.440 --> 13:31.840]  sincerely anxious for its preservation, that it does also believe that to take from states all the
[13:31.840 --> 13:37.280]  powers of self-government and transfer them to a general and consolidated government without regard
[13:37.280 --> 13:42.720]  to the special delegations and reservations solemnly agreed to in that compact is not for
[13:42.720 --> 13:49.120]  the peace, happiness, or prosperity of these states, and that therefore this state is determined,
[13:49.120 --> 13:55.920]  as it doubts not its co-states are, to submit to undelegated and consequently unlimited powers in
[13:55.920 --> 14:02.240]  no man or body of men on earth, that in cases of an abuse of the delegated powers, the members of
[14:02.240 --> 14:07.760]  the general government being chosen by the people, a change by the people would be the constitutional
[14:07.760 --> 14:13.760]  remedy, but where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is
[14:13.760 --> 14:19.360]  the rightful remedy, that every state has a natural right in cases not without the compact,
[14:19.360 --> 14:26.240]  cases non-feodoris, to nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power by others
[14:26.240 --> 14:32.480]  within their limits, that without this right they would be under the dominion absolute and
[14:32.480 --> 14:38.960]  unlimited of whatsoever might exercise this right of judgment for them, that nevertheless this state
[14:38.960 --> 14:44.800]  for motives of regard and respect for its co-states has wished to communicate with them on the subject,
[14:44.800 --> 14:52.480]  that with them alone it is proper to communicate, they alone being parties to the compact and solely
[14:52.480 --> 14:57.760]  authorized to judge in the last resort of the powers exercised under it, congress being not a
[14:57.760 --> 15:04.000]  party but merely the creature of the compact and subject to its assumption of power to the final
[15:04.000 --> 15:11.760]  judgment of those by whom and for whose use itself and its powers were all created and modified,
[15:11.760 --> 15:16.320]  that if the acts before specified should stand these conclusions would flow from them,
[15:16.880 --> 15:21.440]  that it would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence
[15:21.440 --> 15:27.360]  our fears for the safety of our rights, that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism,
[15:27.360 --> 15:33.120]  free government is founded in jealousy and not in confidence, it is jealousy and not confidence
[15:33.120 --> 15:38.960]  which prescribes limited constitution to bind down those whom we are obliged to trust with power,
[15:38.960 --> 15:45.200]  that our constitution has accordingly fixed the limits to which and no further our confidence may
[15:45.200 --> 15:52.320]  go, in questions of power then let no more be heard of confidence in man but bind him down from
[15:52.320 --> 15:58.320]  mischief by the chains of the constitution, that this state does therefore call on its co-states
[15:58.320 --> 16:04.560]  for an expression of their sentiments on acts not authorized by the federal compact and it doubts
[16:04.560 --> 16:09.200]  not that their sense will be so announced as to prove their attachment unaltered to limited
[16:09.200 --> 16:15.120]  government, whether general or particular, then that the rights and liberties of their co-states
[16:15.120 --> 16:19.840]  will be exposed to no dangers by remaining embarked in a common bottom with their own,
[16:20.400 --> 16:24.960]  that they will concur with this state in considering acts also palpably against the
[16:24.960 --> 16:30.960]  constitution as to an amount to an undisguised declaration that the compact is not meant to be
[16:30.960 --> 16:35.440]  the measure of the powers of the general government but that it will proceed in the exercise over
[16:35.440 --> 16:41.040]  these states of all powers whatsoever. All right folks, we're going to go to break. I'll pause
[16:41.040 --> 16:47.280]  there. There's just a little bit of this left to go. So if y'all hang in there, I'm just about done
[16:47.280 --> 16:51.840]  but then I'll go over this in detail as to what it's actually saying. So this is Eddie Craig,
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[18:21.920 --> 18:48.960]  All right, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. I am reading you House Concurrent
[18:48.960 --> 18:56.880]  Resolution No. 6 from the State of New Hampshire legislature dealing with limited powers on the
[18:56.880 --> 19:02.800]  federal government. I am just about done with the reading of the act. I'll pick up where I left off
[19:02.800 --> 19:09.760]  before break. That they will view this as seizing the rights of the states and consolidating them
[19:09.760 --> 19:15.200]  in the hands of the general government with a power assumed to bind the states, not merely as
[19:15.200 --> 19:22.160]  the cases made federal, cases fedoras, but in all cases whatsoever by laws made, not with their
[19:22.160 --> 19:28.080]  consent, but by others against their consent. That this would be to surrender the form of
[19:28.080 --> 19:33.440]  government we have chosen and live under one deriving its powers from its own will and not
[19:33.440 --> 19:39.040]  from our authority. And that the co-states, recurring to their natural right in cases not
[19:39.040 --> 19:45.280]  made federal, will concur in declaring these acts void and of no force and will each take measures
[19:45.280 --> 19:50.720]  of its own for providing that neither these acts nor any other acts of the general government not
[19:50.720 --> 19:55.680]  plainly and intentionally authorized by the Constitution shall be exercised within their
[19:55.680 --> 20:02.560]  respective territories. And that the said committee be authorized to communicate by writing or
[20:02.560 --> 20:08.480]  personal conferences at any times or places whatever with any person or person who may be
[20:08.480 --> 20:14.560]  appointed by any one or more co-states to correspond or confer with them. And that they lay their
[20:14.560 --> 20:20.160]  proceedings before the next session of the general court and that any act by the Congress of the
[20:20.160 --> 20:25.920]  United States executive order of the President of the United States of America or judicial order by
[20:25.920 --> 20:31.440]  the judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the
[20:31.440 --> 20:36.960]  government of the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America
[20:36.960 --> 20:43.120]  and which serves to diminish the liberty of any of the several states or their citizens shall
[20:43.120 --> 20:49.280]  constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government
[20:49.280 --> 20:55.440]  of the United States of America. Acts which would call such a nullification include but are not
[20:55.440 --> 21:01.760]  limited to one, establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the states
[21:01.760 --> 21:08.080]  comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that state.
[21:08.080 --> 21:15.280]  Two, requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war
[21:15.280 --> 21:21.680]  or pursuant to or as an alternative to incarceration after due process of law.
[21:21.680 --> 21:29.040]  Three, requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18
[21:29.040 --> 21:34.800]  other than pursuant to or as an alternative to incarceration after due process of law.
[21:35.600 --> 21:42.160]  Four, surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.
[21:43.040 --> 21:48.480]  Five, any act regarding religion, further limitations on freedom of political speech
[21:48.480 --> 21:54.240]  or further limitations on freedom of the press. Six, further infringements on the right to keep
[21:54.240 --> 21:59.120]  and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition.
[21:59.120 --> 22:06.080]  And that should any such act of Congress become law or executive order or judicial order be put
[22:06.080 --> 22:12.320]  into force. All powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for
[22:12.320 --> 22:18.000]  the United States shall revert to the several states individually. Any future government of
[22:18.000 --> 22:22.880]  the United States of America shall require ratification of three-quarters of the states
[22:22.880 --> 22:28.080]  seeking to form a government of the United States and shall not be binding upon any state
[22:28.080 --> 22:34.240]  not seeking to form such a government. And that copies of this resolution be transmitted by the
[22:34.240 --> 22:39.520]  House Clerk to the President of the United States, each member of the United States Congress,
[22:39.520 --> 22:44.640]  and the presiding officers of each state's legislature. That, folks, is the end of the act.
[22:45.360 --> 22:52.160]  Now, let me go over this in short, sweet detail about what they're saying. New Hampshire has
[22:52.160 --> 22:57.840]  written an act that says, federal government, you have overstepped your authority within New Hampshire
[22:57.840 --> 23:04.160]  and hopefully within any of the other states if they will act accordingly for the very last time.
[23:05.200 --> 23:13.920]  If you make any effort to do so again in any way, shape, or form, we will cancel our existence as a
[23:13.920 --> 23:19.760]  state of the Union. We will rescind any and all authority delegated to the Congress and the
[23:19.760 --> 23:26.880]  Constitution by this state, and we will secede from the Union. And hopefully our costates will
[23:26.880 --> 23:32.960]  do exactly the same thing, at which point you people are swimming all by yourselves.
[23:34.400 --> 23:42.080]  Now, we will then reconvene as required by the Constitution if we are all in agreement to do so
[23:43.200 --> 23:48.640]  and create a new form of national government that will do what it is supposed to do,
[23:48.640 --> 23:56.160]  and we will do it without you. That's the straight-up gist of what this act is saying,
[23:57.120 --> 24:04.080]  and it gives specific examples of what it would consider a violation. Right to keep and bear arms,
[24:04.080 --> 24:09.200]  freedom of the press, freedom of the speech. Now, let's talk about exactly what Obama himself
[24:09.200 --> 24:15.360]  and Bush prior to this have attempted to do that would be in direct violation of this as we speak.
[24:15.360 --> 24:21.920]  Right here it's saying that requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service other than a
[24:21.920 --> 24:30.000]  draft during a declared war. Did the government not activate all reserve personnel and send them
[24:30.000 --> 24:41.280]  overseas to fight in an undeclared war? Yes, they did. Did they not invent the Patriot Act?
[24:41.280 --> 24:50.080]  The Patriot Act. Yes, they did. Did they not invent this health care bill that will destroy
[24:50.080 --> 24:56.240]  our economy, these bailouts, none of these things which the Constitution authorizes the government
[24:56.240 --> 25:08.960]  to do? Yes, they did. There is absolutely no way if every State of the Union adopts a bill with
[25:08.960 --> 25:18.800]  this language and this intent that the federal government would last one more day because they
[25:18.800 --> 25:26.240]  have already violated it by the ticking of the clock. There would be no way for the federal
[25:26.240 --> 25:32.640]  government to survive this bill being enacted in every State. There would be none because they
[25:32.640 --> 25:44.560]  would instantly be in violation. So that, boys and girls, is why I would say get this bill downloaded,
[25:45.120 --> 25:50.880]  take it to your State representative and you shove it so far up their nose to read that they
[25:50.880 --> 25:58.240]  can't avoid seeing the title to the bottom. Okay? Make them understand this is what we've been
[25:58.240 --> 26:04.320]  telling you. This is what we want you to do. This is what you better do or you're going to be
[26:04.320 --> 26:15.200]  polishing shoes tomorrow because you will not be representing us. Works for me and I'd like to see
[26:15.200 --> 26:22.160]  that. I know a certain legislature in Oklahoma that might want to read that one. Well, I have
[26:22.160 --> 26:28.320]  saved the bill off so that I will have it available and if you want, Randy, I'll send you a copy over
[26:28.320 --> 26:34.240]  here in the email. I absolutely want a copy. Is this bill in both houses in New Hampshire right
[26:34.240 --> 26:42.320]  now? It says that it is House Concurrent Resolution 6. So the House Concurrent Resolution affirms
[26:42.320 --> 26:51.920]  States' rights. It was put in on September 1st of last year. So this is saying that the House
[26:51.920 --> 27:00.960]  has passed it then. Yes. That's a good sign. Why have we heard nothing of it? Well, because
[27:00.960 --> 27:05.840]  who controls the mainstream media that doesn't want the other states to realize what's going on?
[27:05.840 --> 27:10.720]  But the state government themselves have a lot to lose from this, Randy. Think about that.
[27:11.600 --> 27:17.920]  The state in this bill, the language is right here that also limits what the state government
[27:17.920 --> 27:24.800]  can do if they were not authorized under the Constitution to do something. Because those
[27:24.800 --> 27:30.800]  rights were left to the people, not even to the state government. But that language is in here.
[27:32.400 --> 27:40.640]  I would like to see some measures taken before things get to this point. One example is,
[27:41.680 --> 27:46.560]  while folks out there would watch the documentary Don't Tread on Me, Rise of the Republic,
[27:46.560 --> 27:55.680]  Charles Key has a proposal regarding a tax escrow account, whereas all the federal income tax that
[27:55.680 --> 28:01.760]  either corporations or private individuals would normally pay to the federal government,
[28:01.760 --> 28:06.480]  to the IRS directly, whether through withholding or just writing them a check at the end of the
[28:06.480 --> 28:12.960]  year, instead all citizens of the state would be required to submit their federal income tax
[28:12.960 --> 28:22.480]  receipts to the state. And then if the state government decides that the federal government
[28:22.480 --> 28:30.400]  hasn't infringed upon the rights of the citizens, then those tax receipts would be submitted to the
[28:30.400 --> 28:34.800]  federal government. But it would be submitted through the state governments. And also there
[28:34.800 --> 28:40.080]  was another proposal that there would be a comparison made regarding how much money is
[28:40.080 --> 28:45.360]  coming back from the federal government versus how much money is going to the federal government
[28:45.360 --> 28:52.960]  through the state. And if the feds aren't giving back as much as is being sent to them,
[28:52.960 --> 28:59.360]  well then the state keeps the difference and then refunds the difference back to the people.
[28:59.360 --> 29:07.680]  And so by instituting some economic measures like that, possibly we can keep it from getting to the
[29:07.680 --> 29:12.880]  point of secession and possible civil war because if all these states start seceding, I'm afraid
[29:12.880 --> 29:17.280]  it's going to come to violence. We don't want to see that.
[29:17.280 --> 29:22.480]  In all honesty, if the federal government, if the taxes were collected the way the Constitution
[29:22.480 --> 29:28.560]  requires, the Constitution only allows a tax according to enumeration of the census if it's
[29:28.560 --> 29:35.520]  a direct tax or an excise tax form of taxation. Those are the only two authorized by the Constitution.
[29:35.520 --> 29:40.240]  So I'm sorry, folks, all of you supporting the fair tax and flat tax and all that,
[29:40.240 --> 29:46.080]  they are still not constitutional. Okay, they're just not. But if I could,
[29:46.080 --> 29:49.440]  Debra, for just a minute, I want to address the tax issue on the other side when we get back.
[29:49.440 --> 29:53.760]  Sure, sure. And then we'll go to Janet in Florida. She's been waiting for quite a while.
[29:53.760 --> 29:54.800]  We'll be right back, folks.
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[32:22.320 --> 32:44.000]  All right, folks, we are back.
[32:45.680 --> 32:50.800]  Okay, what I was going to comment on regarding taxation on this New Hampshire bill, this would
[32:50.800 --> 32:56.880]  put an end to the method of tax collection as we know it, simply because of the way that
[32:56.880 --> 33:02.560]  the tax system was designed to work and the way that the Constitution says it can work,
[33:02.560 --> 33:09.120]  either through an enumerated tax where it's a direct tax where everyone has to pay the
[33:09.120 --> 33:15.360]  same through apportionment, which means we don't pay our taxes to the federal government.
[33:15.360 --> 33:21.120]  The state pays the taxes to the federal government and the state collects the taxes that it's
[33:21.120 --> 33:26.560]  required to pay from the people within the state. The people never interact with the
[33:26.560 --> 33:31.360]  federal government in the payment of those taxes at all. They would pay it to their state
[33:31.360 --> 33:40.480]  government. And so the excise taxes, they can't be applied within the states because
[33:40.480 --> 33:46.000]  the Constitution forbids that. It specifically states that none of the goods that go from one
[33:46.000 --> 33:52.080]  state to the other can be taxed by any other state or by the federal government, which
[33:52.080 --> 33:56.640]  leads me to wonder how do they get away with the federal tax on gasoline, for one thing.
[33:58.400 --> 34:02.960]  Where does the state or the federal government get the right to tax the resources of the
[34:02.960 --> 34:07.520]  individual states? I have yet to find that authority anywhere in the Constitution either,
[34:07.520 --> 34:13.760]  but they do it. So these are things the states themselves are going to have to start looking
[34:13.760 --> 34:18.240]  at a little bit more carefully. Exactly where has the federal government stuck its fingers
[34:18.240 --> 34:23.840]  into our cookie jar up to the shoulder? And how do we get it out again without having
[34:23.840 --> 34:30.880]  to literally cut it off? But anyway, that's addressing the tax issue. All right, Deb,
[34:30.880 --> 34:36.080]  let's go to callers. Okay, we got some callers on the line. We got Janet in Florida. Janet,
[34:36.080 --> 34:39.360]  thank you for holding so long. What's on your mind tonight?
[34:40.480 --> 34:46.160]  Hi, thank you for taking my call. I really appreciate it. Well, I've been listening to
[34:46.160 --> 34:52.960]  you guys for like a few months now. My husband and I listened to you, and I had a problem
[34:52.960 --> 35:01.040]  about a month ago. I was driving to Georgia here from Florida, and I was stopped for speeding.
[35:01.040 --> 35:06.960]  I was in a cluster of cars, and supposedly I was speeding. They gave me a citation,
[35:06.960 --> 35:13.920]  it says I was going 85 miles per hour, and I wasn't. And when they ran my license,
[35:13.920 --> 35:21.520]  it was suspended, and so I got arrested. And basically, I have court. I was just going to
[35:21.520 --> 35:29.040]  pay the ticket and forget about it, but I was not going 85 miles per hour. And after I was arrested
[35:29.040 --> 35:36.640]  and inside the car with handcuffs and everything, they started saying, oh, we think we saw a bag of
[35:36.640 --> 35:43.680]  marijuana in your dashboard, and now it disappeared. Can we search your car? And I exercised my rights,
[35:43.680 --> 35:50.080]  and I didn't consent to the search, and they were giving me the runaround. If you have nothing to
[35:50.080 --> 35:56.080]  hide, then why don't you let us? And I was like, no, you're a cliche. I've seen this. This is what
[35:56.080 --> 36:03.120]  you guys do to people. I'm already arrested. Take me away. And so they did that, and I have
[36:03.120 --> 36:08.160]  a citation here that I was going 85 miles per hour, and I want to take it to trial,
[36:08.720 --> 36:15.920]  and I wanted to see how I could defend myself. And I'm looking at the citation right now,
[36:15.920 --> 36:23.760]  and I see that they misspelled my first name. I don't know if that counts.
[36:23.760 --> 36:30.160]  No, that won't help you much. A minor error of that type won't make any difference.
[36:31.120 --> 36:40.320]  Okay. So basically, I was not going 85 miles per hour, and I'm going to court on
[36:40.320 --> 36:44.560]  Tuesday, so I'm not going to take the plea. I'm going to say I wasn't guilty.
[36:46.160 --> 36:52.000]  Okay. We need another caller. Gary from Georgia. You've got to be out there listening.
[36:52.000 --> 36:55.840]  Okay. Gary from Georgia can
[36:55.840 --> 37:00.800]  probably answer the question. He's going to know Georgia law much better than we do.
[37:01.840 --> 37:07.920]  Okay. How about if you hang on? We'll go to another caller and see if we can't get Gary to call in.
[37:08.880 --> 37:12.560]  That sounds good. Thank you. Okay. Eddie, do you have any comments about this,
[37:12.560 --> 37:16.560]  since you're the traffic guy? Well, I was just trying to confirm
[37:16.560 --> 37:20.080]  what's stated. If it's in Georgia, I would definitely like to hear what Gary's got to
[37:20.080 --> 37:24.240]  say about it, because he does study those statutes more regularly than I do.
[37:26.640 --> 37:29.680]  But I can be looking while we're waiting. Okay, Janet.
[37:29.680 --> 37:35.440]  So I'm in Ashburn, Georgia. Okay, Janet. Why don't you hang on the line?
[37:36.320 --> 37:38.320]  Okay. No problem. Thank you.
[37:38.320 --> 37:42.160]  Okay. Sure. All right. We're going to go now to Mary in North Carolina.
[37:43.280 --> 37:45.200]  Mary, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[37:45.200 --> 37:49.760]  Hey, thank you, Deborah. I was just wondering, when Eddie was reading the
[37:52.560 --> 37:59.760]  resolution passed by New Hampshire, he mentioned about three to five states there at the beginning,
[37:59.760 --> 38:04.400]  and he mentioned North Carolina. And I was just wondering, he didn't really say
[38:06.320 --> 38:10.000]  how we're involved, how those states... This was during the original
[38:10.000 --> 38:16.000]  Constitutional Congress. Those were the states that made those suggested changes in the original
[38:16.000 --> 38:20.240]  Constitution in the 1700s. Oh, okay.
[38:20.240 --> 38:26.880]  During the Constitutional Convention. Oh, okay. So nothing recent for North Carolina.
[38:26.880 --> 38:29.440]  We just have to do like you said, get on the line and...
[38:29.440 --> 38:32.160]  And... Burn up the wires.
[38:32.160 --> 38:40.800]  Burn up the wires. Yeah. Burn up for us, for us all. Okay. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it.
[38:41.440 --> 38:50.240]  Okay. Thanks. Okay. We're going on now to Richard... To Robert in Texas.
[38:50.800 --> 38:52.960]  Robert, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[38:54.080 --> 39:00.160]  Yes, ma'am. Wednesday... I mean, Monday I heard the last part of a call where a gentleman called
[39:00.160 --> 39:05.760]  in, I believe from Texas, wanting to know how to register his vehicle as a private operator,
[39:05.760 --> 39:09.280]  not involved in commerce. That was from Texas, correct?
[39:11.920 --> 39:22.160]  Yes. I had already done that, but I didn't remember the number of the form on the DOT site
[39:25.440 --> 39:28.480]  that you use. Now, Eddie doesn't register his
[39:28.480 --> 39:34.240]  vehicle at all. And we were discussing other people that don't register their vehicle at all.
[39:34.240 --> 39:38.800]  If it's for private use, you don't really have to. You really only have to register
[39:39.360 --> 39:43.440]  if it's for commercial use. Yeah. See, the thing about it is,
[39:43.440 --> 39:49.840]  is even using that federal form, one, there's no... Again, we're back to the arguments that's
[39:49.840 --> 39:55.440]  used in this legislative act. There's no authority granted the federal government to regulate,
[39:55.440 --> 40:00.720]  license, or otherwise register private property within the borders of the state.
[40:01.760 --> 40:10.000]  I personally see no sense in getting documentation from an unauthorized source anyway,
[40:10.960 --> 40:16.560]  saying that I'm not something that I've already attested that I'm not, or seeking their permission
[40:16.560 --> 40:24.400]  to state that I'm not. To me, it's going to wind up being a catch-22 thing. There's a thing to
[40:24.400 --> 40:30.880]  remember about government forms. If you filled one out, you're under somebody's thumb and somebody's
[40:30.880 --> 40:38.480]  microscope. That's a given. If you filled out a government form, they've got something,
[40:39.280 --> 40:44.560]  a string attached somewhere that you don't know about yet, but it will come back to haunt you
[40:44.560 --> 40:54.960]  eventually. I don't advocate it for myself, but I can't tell others what to do, and I'm not going
[40:54.960 --> 41:02.960]  to try. I can suggest, but that's my take on it. Well, I've already filled it out. When I go to
[41:02.960 --> 41:09.280]  court on the 30th, I can't get it postponed. I'm going to want the officer to explain
[41:09.280 --> 41:17.120]  how he wasn't aware that I was a private operator because the DOT registration was right there in
[41:17.120 --> 41:27.120]  front of him. He had constructive notice. Yeah, at least that operator part is going to wind up
[41:27.120 --> 41:33.920]  getting you. I can guarantee you it is. How? Because the way Texas defines the term versus how
[41:33.920 --> 41:40.880]  the feds define the term. The feds specifically define the operator as someone engaging in
[41:40.880 --> 41:48.800]  commerce. Now, we all know, we know that the state laws for the DMVs and the traffic laws are all
[41:48.800 --> 41:56.240]  directly attached and are in existence because of the federal laws on the same subject, but you
[41:56.240 --> 42:00.720]  will never, ever hear these state courts admit that. You will never hear them admit that.
[42:00.720 --> 42:07.840]  You'll never hear them admit that. Because they're going to say, well, Texas defines it this way.
[42:08.880 --> 42:13.760]  That's exactly how they're going to use it. Because you know, Randy, as well as I do,
[42:13.760 --> 42:18.240]  they ignore federal law when it suits them, and they use federal law when it suits them.
[42:22.800 --> 42:27.200]  But I'm willing to bet you that that's the uphill battle you're going to have when it comes to that
[42:27.200 --> 42:34.160]  use of that form is that you have declared yourself an operator, private or otherwise,
[42:34.160 --> 42:40.880]  you're an operator. Private or otherwise. You can't say private or otherwise in the same sentence.
[42:40.880 --> 42:46.800]  If it's private, you're not in commerce. Whether they're calling you an operator or not,
[42:46.800 --> 42:54.960]  you are still not in commerce. That is the point. I understand that. But what they're going to argue,
[42:54.960 --> 43:00.160]  and I know I've been there, what they're going to argue is that nowhere in the Texas statutes does
[43:00.160 --> 43:06.320]  it specifically say that the act involves commerce or that commerce is a related element.
[43:06.880 --> 43:14.320]  Now, you can prove it, but nowhere is that term specifically used except in the administrative code.
[43:17.600 --> 43:19.360]  Except in the administrative code.
[43:19.360 --> 43:25.120]  Yeah. Under rule point 11, where it tells you that the purpose of the Department of Public Safety is
[43:25.120 --> 43:29.440]  to regulate commercial and for-hire traffic. Is that not sufficient?
[43:30.480 --> 43:33.200]  If you can get them to let you admit that part of the statute, it certainly is.
[43:33.200 --> 43:37.200]  Well, what if you're saying they're only going to enforce the laws they want to,
[43:37.200 --> 43:40.240]  what the heck does anything make any difference? Why are we even talking about that?
[43:40.240 --> 43:45.040]  Hey, Randy, that's why we do this show, is because they only enforce the laws they want to.
[43:45.040 --> 43:49.040]  That's our whole premise for being here, is to tell people how to hold them accountable
[43:49.040 --> 43:49.920]  when they do that.
[43:49.920 --> 43:54.400]  You're saying don't do something to bring them to task because they'll ignore it.
[43:54.400 --> 43:57.200]  No, I don't think that's what he's saying. Listen, we'll be right back.
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[45:20.080 --> 45:24.960]  Okay. Randy, I don't think that that's what Eddie was trying to say.
[45:24.960 --> 45:30.480]  I think that Eddie's trying to show the listeners that this is how they're going to counter-argue.
[45:30.480 --> 45:33.760]  This is how the other side is going to counter-argue the case.
[45:33.760 --> 45:38.000]  And so, if we're going to take a stance on a certain issue,
[45:38.000 --> 45:40.880]  we just have to be prepared for the counter-argument. That's all. Right, Eddie?
[45:40.880 --> 45:41.680]  Right.
[45:42.320 --> 45:43.440]  Okay. That's what I thought.
[45:43.440 --> 45:45.440]  Yeah. Because...
[45:45.440 --> 45:50.240]  So, are you saying don't register as a private operator?
[45:50.800 --> 45:56.480]  Personally, I wouldn't to avoid having to make the argument denouncing operator to begin with.
[45:57.440 --> 46:02.320]  But if you're in the know about what the law is and where to get it,
[46:03.280 --> 46:04.880]  then it's a fight you can make.
[46:07.920 --> 46:13.600]  But to err on the side of caution for those that are not as familiar with the subject
[46:13.600 --> 46:16.800]  as those that came to the seminar and have the seminar material
[46:16.800 --> 46:19.280]  that explains all of it and shows you where it is,
[46:19.920 --> 46:22.000]  rather than having you trying to fight blind,
[46:22.000 --> 46:24.160]  I'm trying to let you know what you would be facing.
[46:30.960 --> 46:32.160]  Okay. I'll buy that.
[46:35.520 --> 46:37.680]  Okay. We're going to continue to move on.
[46:37.680 --> 46:38.960]  Okay. Robert dropped off the line.
[46:38.960 --> 46:41.120]  There was another caller that dropped off the line.
[46:41.120 --> 46:42.800]  Callers, if you'd like to call back in.
[46:42.800 --> 46:46.400]  512-646-1984. Gary hasn't called in yet.
[46:46.400 --> 46:49.200]  But we are going to go now to Randy in Texas.
[46:49.200 --> 46:50.960]  Randy, what's on your mind tonight?
[46:52.240 --> 46:52.960]  A couple of things.
[46:53.520 --> 46:58.400]  On the traffic deal, you need to go back to the 1925 code.
[46:59.200 --> 47:00.560]  Look under driver's license.
[47:00.560 --> 47:01.680]  There's only one license.
[47:01.680 --> 47:02.960]  It's your chauffeur's license.
[47:03.760 --> 47:04.800]  That carries forward.
[47:05.360 --> 47:07.200]  We probably need to do all the research on it.
[47:07.200 --> 47:12.960]  But there's three classifications now of that same commercial license, A, B, and C.
[47:12.960 --> 47:15.920]  They just take commercial off of the one that we carry in our wallet.
[47:18.480 --> 47:25.040]  Well, in actuality, they have three different classifications for not just the A, B, and C,
[47:25.040 --> 47:26.800]  but what each one of those is considered.
[47:27.360 --> 47:31.360]  Each one of these has what's known as an operator's license,
[47:31.360 --> 47:34.400]  chauffeur's license, commercial operator's license.
[47:34.400 --> 47:35.520]  They're all commercial.
[47:35.520 --> 47:38.000]  That part's exactly correct.
[47:38.000 --> 47:43.520]  But all three of those classifications can operate anything in the A, B, or C class
[47:43.520 --> 47:44.960]  except for the chauffeur's.
[47:45.840 --> 47:52.400]  The chauffeur's license is specifically limited only to buses, limousines, shuttles,
[47:52.400 --> 47:53.360]  things of that nature.
[47:53.920 --> 47:56.960]  But any of the other two, either of the operator's license,
[47:56.960 --> 48:01.200]  can actually operate any classification of vehicle for which the license is classed.
[48:01.200 --> 48:04.880]  But they do actually have them in three separate criteria,
[48:04.880 --> 48:07.440]  chauffeur's, operator's, and commercial operator's.
[48:08.800 --> 48:12.560]  The difference in the operators and commercial operators being the commercial operator's
[48:12.560 --> 48:17.600]  the only one that can have a hazmat placard on a motor vehicle that they're operating.
[48:19.120 --> 48:23.360]  Well, Eddie, if you go back to the 1925 code, there's one license.
[48:24.240 --> 48:24.880]  Correct.
[48:24.880 --> 48:26.160]  You're absolutely correct.
[48:26.160 --> 48:35.760]  If the chauffeur had a different meaning back then, it meant a commercial operator, period.
[48:36.480 --> 48:36.720]  Right.
[48:37.520 --> 48:41.760]  And so they, you know, as usual, they've turned, you know, messed with the terms.
[48:41.760 --> 48:46.160]  But the thing is, is it all goes back to one thing, a commercial license,
[48:46.160 --> 48:49.040]  that they termed chauffeur, that they've never really changed.
[48:49.040 --> 48:52.480]  I think that's why they've got that ruling that says there's no such thing
[48:52.480 --> 48:59.040]  as a driver's license in Texas. Well, actually, that was there because
[48:59.040 --> 49:02.160]  they had never defined the term driver's license.
[49:02.160 --> 49:08.880]  And so charging you for no driver's license was an invalid charge because there wasn't
[49:08.880 --> 49:12.720]  a terminology called that in Texas law at the time.
[49:13.440 --> 49:16.560]  That didn't come out until 60 something.
[49:16.560 --> 49:22.400]  But they actually created the definition of a driver's license in 521.
[49:23.520 --> 49:27.600]  Then they could charge you with no driver's license, but what they don't tell you
[49:27.600 --> 49:30.720]  is which of those three things they're charging you with not having.
[49:31.520 --> 49:36.800]  They're just using the blanket term, when in fact the blanket term must be specific
[49:36.800 --> 49:38.800]  in order for you to commit the violation.
[49:40.000 --> 49:45.360]  Right. And as you've talked about in the past, they always charge you under the one
[49:45.360 --> 49:47.360]  where it's a temporary and all that other thing.
[49:47.360 --> 49:50.160]  It's the three that aren't real licenses.
[49:50.160 --> 49:56.080]  But if you even go to the commercial handbook from the DPS, there's three licenses, A, B,
[49:56.080 --> 49:59.200]  and C. Well, that's three classifications.
[50:00.560 --> 50:02.320]  Right. But it's the same.
[50:02.320 --> 50:06.000]  It's one license, three classifications. What's the weight of the vehicle?
[50:06.000 --> 50:10.240]  How many people can it carry? And so it's all the same thing.
[50:10.240 --> 50:15.840]  They've just tried to confuse it, but it's very clear and we probably need to go down
[50:15.840 --> 50:21.680]  to the UT Law Library and dig this out and have it researched from today all the way back
[50:21.680 --> 50:27.920]  to the 25 code and beyond if we have to. Because I'm pretty sure that there's nothing
[50:27.920 --> 50:30.240]  in there that's going to change the truth of the matter.
[50:31.280 --> 50:38.240]  I was just reading something from the 19, I want to say 1912 or something.
[50:38.240 --> 50:44.640]  It was a book on automobile traffic law. Yeah.
[50:46.000 --> 50:51.280]  And it's very clear and the attorney was very, very careful.
[50:51.280 --> 50:55.520]  But a couple of times he talks about traveling versus transportation.
[50:58.960 --> 51:01.920]  And so there's two different things there.
[51:02.640 --> 51:06.720]  And they're very careful to not cross the line in traveling.
[51:06.720 --> 51:11.680]  And we're all traveling and they're trying to say you're in transport and commerce.
[51:15.680 --> 51:17.600]  Right. That's true.
[51:18.720 --> 51:20.960]  Now, the other thing was when you were talking about this
[51:21.600 --> 51:25.360]  secession deal, I think that's a horrible idea, honestly.
[51:26.320 --> 51:29.120]  We don't need to secede. We need to have the state governments
[51:29.120 --> 51:35.360]  basically arrest any federal official who tries to impose unconstitutional law
[51:35.360 --> 51:39.200]  and then call back the congressmen and the senators and if they don't, you know,
[51:39.200 --> 51:42.800]  if they get out of line, put them on trial for treason and hang their ass.
[51:44.800 --> 51:47.760]  Well, that's true. And that's what we should be doing.
[51:47.760 --> 51:51.360]  But at the same time, this is not a bill of secession.
[51:51.360 --> 51:55.520]  This is a bill saying that if you're not going to obey the will of the people of the states
[51:55.520 --> 52:00.080]  as you're required to do, not only will we secede, but we will destroy you in the process
[52:00.080 --> 52:03.840]  and rebuild you according to what we said you were going to be originally.
[52:04.640 --> 52:07.040]  Now, we're allowed to do that. We're supposed to do that.
[52:07.040 --> 52:10.240]  You can work with the rest of the states. I don't understand the secession part
[52:10.240 --> 52:14.320]  because that breaks the union. And what you want to do is maintain it.
[52:14.320 --> 52:17.840]  You just want to get a government that's not corrupt.
[52:18.720 --> 52:19.840]  Why do we want to maintain it?
[52:19.840 --> 52:23.840]  Criminals, let's just take them in and, you know, put them through the court system.
[52:23.840 --> 52:27.760]  You know, put them through the court system and do what must be done.
[52:28.320 --> 52:32.160]  Wait a minute. You said we want to maintain it. Why?
[52:33.520 --> 52:39.680]  We want to maintain the Constitution because we haven't had the damn Constitution in 100 years.
[52:40.400 --> 52:42.960]  What's the point of maintaining something we don't have?
[52:44.480 --> 52:47.680]  Well, it's actually a pretty good thing. We don't need to change it.
[52:47.680 --> 52:53.360]  But I believe that they want us to do this so that they can come in and override it
[52:53.360 --> 52:55.520]  and totally screw it up, which is what they do.
[52:56.880 --> 53:00.000]  Yeah, I agree with Randy, with Randy Raylor on this one.
[53:00.800 --> 53:05.120]  And for Randy Kelton, this has been the premise of our show to begin with,
[53:05.120 --> 53:08.960]  that we've always tried to teach people that it's not the law that's broken.
[53:08.960 --> 53:15.040]  It's not the system of law that's broken. It's the fact that there are rogue criminals
[53:15.040 --> 53:20.960]  that are breaking the law. And so before we throw out the whole body of law,
[53:20.960 --> 53:26.320]  let's try following it first. And then if it doesn't work, then we'll throw it out.
[53:26.320 --> 53:30.320]  I mean, Randy, this is what you and I have taught for the last three years.
[53:30.320 --> 53:32.960]  So I have to agree with Randy Raylor on this one.
[53:32.960 --> 53:36.080]  How do you get the Fed to follow law up to now?
[53:36.080 --> 53:45.200]  Well, I think Randy Raylor just opened up a good idea, suggested a good idea.
[53:45.200 --> 53:52.320]  You know, Texas and the sheriff arrest your ass, hauls you down to a magistrate.
[53:52.320 --> 53:55.840]  They read the charges. You can't do anything.
[53:55.840 --> 53:58.880]  We drag you into court. You're found guilty and you hunt.
[53:59.520 --> 54:03.040]  I mean, look, if we can't get the state legislatures
[54:03.040 --> 54:08.960]  to stand up for what's already there, I don't see how we're going to get them
[54:08.960 --> 54:13.120]  to succeed. You're talking about needing to hang.
[54:13.920 --> 54:16.240]  You're talking about needing to hang a few of them as well.
[54:17.440 --> 54:23.440]  I mean, basically what I mean, but then again, Randy, what's going to be the difference if
[54:23.440 --> 54:28.080]  we're hanging all the politicians versus just cutting them off and starving them to death
[54:28.640 --> 54:31.840]  by taking them out of government? But you're not going to cut them off.
[54:31.840 --> 54:36.240]  They're going to come after you with all the retards that are police and all the other
[54:36.240 --> 54:41.360]  knuckleheads that don't have a clue because they've been trained by government schools.
[54:41.360 --> 54:45.840]  Well, but this is the state government that's controlling the police within that state at
[54:45.840 --> 54:49.200]  that time. The state government would be saying, oh, no, you don't.
[54:50.000 --> 54:56.080]  Wait a minute, Randy, do you really think that if a state in this date and time
[54:56.080 --> 55:02.080]  that elected to secede from the government that the other states would let the federal
[55:02.080 --> 55:09.200]  government go into that state and occupy it? Yes, absolutely, because the guys at the
[55:09.200 --> 55:14.000]  top levels are pretty high. We are not that much of sheep.
[55:14.960 --> 55:20.560]  Now, we may let our government go trample on somebody they can vilify somewhere else,
[55:20.560 --> 55:24.000]  but these are our own people. We will not tolerate it.
[55:24.000 --> 55:28.800]  Well, but here's the thing. Why secede when you can do the same thing by,
[55:28.800 --> 55:33.920]  let's say that I'm the governor of Texas and I appoint Eddie DPS commissioner. I put you in as
[55:34.800 --> 55:38.560]  Texas attorney general and we go to these fed guys and we say, look,
[55:38.560 --> 55:43.440]  dinglings, here's the law. Either follow it or go to prison.
[55:44.960 --> 55:50.880]  Okay. How do we do that? How do we institute that in a way that we can get it actually instituted?
[55:50.880 --> 55:57.760]  Well, when I call in the Texas Rangers to arrest you and court you in front of a judge
[55:57.760 --> 56:00.480]  and you're found guilty and you go sit in Huntsville prison.
[56:01.360 --> 56:05.840]  No, no way. You didn't answer my question. How do we institute that?
[56:05.840 --> 56:08.640]  Right now, the Texas Rangers are worthless. They can do nothing.
[56:08.640 --> 56:10.880]  Right. I know. He's talking about if one of us was
[56:10.880 --> 56:14.960]  in charge of them, Randy. How do we get there?
[56:14.960 --> 56:18.880]  No, you can't. The Texas Rangers can't do that. The state police can't do that.
[56:18.880 --> 56:23.440]  I have an answer for that. We take back Travis County.
[56:24.960 --> 56:29.840]  How? Okay. You make it a general statement. Yeah. We do this really nice thing.
[56:30.400 --> 56:33.440]  I'm looking for particulars. How do we get that accomplished?
[56:33.440 --> 56:37.040]  We go and we get control of the county commissioners and we...
[56:37.040 --> 56:44.320]  No. Okay. You're saying the same thing. How do we go in with guns and shoot them?
[56:44.320 --> 56:46.720]  How do we get control of the county commissioners?
[56:46.720 --> 56:50.800]  We do what you teach us to do, which is take them into court.
[56:50.800 --> 56:55.760]  And then we run people like Deborah and Eddie and me and you and everybody else
[56:55.760 --> 56:59.200]  to be the commissioners. Okay. Now you're talking about getting the
[57:00.080 --> 57:05.440]  general public off of their behinds and getting them all to come up and follow you.
[57:05.440 --> 57:11.440]  Well, that hasn't happened since a couple hundred years ago and even then only 5%.
[57:11.440 --> 57:17.440]  But see it in general essence, Randy, you're talking doing at the local level
[57:18.000 --> 57:21.200]  what New Hampshire's bill is talking about doing on the federal level.
[57:21.200 --> 57:27.600]  They're talking about doing exactly the same thing, just on a much larger, more pronounced scale.
[57:28.880 --> 57:34.480]  They don't want to secede, but they certainly want to get rid of those up there that are not
[57:34.480 --> 57:39.920]  abiding by the law or attempt to do things that are outside the constitutional authority granted.
[57:39.920 --> 57:47.600]  That's all they're wanting to do. What they did say was, if you can't live with that and if you
[57:47.600 --> 57:53.440]  can't do what the states demand that you do under that constitution, then obviously you think you're
[57:53.440 --> 57:58.640]  more powerful than we are and you think you're above our authority. So we're going to let you
[57:58.640 --> 58:02.320]  try to prove that because we're dissolving what you live in.
[58:03.440 --> 58:05.280]  Okay, here's Gary from Georgia.
[58:05.280 --> 58:12.880]  Yeah, we have Gary from Georgia. So Gary, hang on the line and we'll have Gary and Janet talk on the other side.
[58:12.880 --> 58:17.600]  And so Eddie and I are going to have a fistfight on the break.
[58:17.600 --> 58:24.480]  Okay, well, good. I'm going to stay out of it. And I would strongly encourage all of you out there to watch
[58:24.480 --> 58:30.480]  the documentary, Don't Tread on Me, Rise of the Republic, William Lewis and Gary Francie,
[58:30.480 --> 58:37.280]  with the producers and directors, if you guys and gals out there want to learn about some real remedies
[58:37.280 --> 58:42.320]  at the state level of how we're going to take control of this outrageous situation under
[58:42.320 --> 58:49.200]  constitution, under federal constitution, under state constitutions without people having to push
[58:49.200 --> 58:53.680]  their legislators to secede. I don't think secession is the answer. Watch the documentary,
[58:53.680 --> 59:00.880]  Don't Tread on Me, Rise of the Republic. We'll be right back.
[59:53.680 --> 01:00:04.400]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Network.
[01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:08.960]  Senator Richard Durbin says Washington may be breaking the law by providing military
[01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:15.280]  assistance to the Somali government, which employs child soldiers. Meanwhile, the UN Security Council
[01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:20.240]  said it was ready to adopt sanctions against commanders who deployed underage soldiers.
[01:00:20.240 --> 01:00:26.000]  San Francisco moved a step closer Tuesday to becoming the first city in the nation to require
[01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:31.680]  retailers to post notices on the level of radiation emitted by the cell phones they offer,
[01:00:31.680 --> 01:00:37.280]  a similar measure by the state legislature died this year amid heavy lobbying by the cell phone
[01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:43.840]  industry. Pakistan security forces backed by helicopter gunships and artillery killed 38
[01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:51.040]  people in attacks on Taliban hideouts in Bajof agency. 10 soldiers were also killed. Officials
[01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:56.080]  said the Taliban had issued pamphlets warning people not to surrender or to accept government
[01:00:56.080 --> 01:01:02.400]  jobs. This news brief brought to you by the International News Network. Supporters of Israel
[01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:07.280]  and the US House of Representatives warned Turkey Wednesday they might support a resolution
[01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:13.120]  recognizing the Armenian genocide that so far has failed to come up for a vote. Turkey opposed
[01:01:13.120 --> 01:01:18.720]  the resolution that would bring formal US recognition of the 90-year-old campaign by
[01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:24.480]  Turkey's Ottoman Empire against the Armenian population as genocide. The resolution passed
[01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.040]  the House Foreign Affairs Committee by a single vote in March, but so far has not come up for
[01:01:29.040 --> 01:01:35.280]  debate by the full House. Turkey recalled its US ambassador to protest the House Committee vote.
[01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:40.880]  Turkey provided support to the recent flotilla of six ships that was stopped by the Israeli military
[01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:46.560]  from bringing aid to Gaza. Nine Turkish citizens were killed after Israeli commanders boarded
[01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:51.760]  the ships. Turkey condemned Israel and has led calls for an international investigation of the
[01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:58.880]  incident. Marine scientists studying the effects of the BP oil disaster report large numbers of
[01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:04.320]  fish and other wildlife are fleeing the oil in the Gulf and clustering in cleaner waters along
[01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:10.320]  the coast, but they say the crowding could result in mass die-offs as fish run out of oxygen.
[01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:15.120]  Scientists counting the number of dead birds, sea turtles and other animals say the toll is
[01:02:15.120 --> 01:02:21.120]  surprisingly small given the size of the disaster. The number's pale compared to what happened after
[01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:30.080]  the Exxon Valdez disaster in 1989 when 250,000 birds and 2,800 otters died. But researchers say
[01:02:30.080 --> 01:02:36.240]  the spill's vast area means scientists are able to locate only a small fraction of the dead animals.
[01:02:36.240 --> 01:02:41.360]  Many will never be found after sinking to the bottom of the sea or getting scavenged by other
[01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:46.640]  marine life and large numbers of birds are meeting their deaths deep in the Louisiana marshes where
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[01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:56.640]  One by one, I'm chanting for justice and for this man, chant the rule, chant the rule, chant for our
[01:03:56.640 --> 01:03:59.640]  The world's the same for all of them and me
[01:03:59.640 --> 01:04:02.640]  Most of them when me chant them me say
[01:04:02.640 --> 01:04:05.640]  All man was created equally
[01:04:05.640 --> 01:04:09.640]  Chant down Babylon and do it daily
[01:04:09.640 --> 01:04:12.640]  And when night come drift everybody
[01:04:12.640 --> 01:04:16.640]  So one by one me have to chant them man
[01:04:16.640 --> 01:04:19.640]  Me chant down Babylon because Babylon is run
[01:04:19.640 --> 01:04:23.640]  The only right man me say is the rest man
[01:04:23.640 --> 01:04:26.640]  We take me say Lord man before we hear no man
[01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:30.640]  To chant down Babylon now not later
[01:04:30.640 --> 01:04:33.640]  To let Babylon now say we getting greater
[01:04:33.640 --> 01:04:37.640]  We got the donkey me say to tell a lie
[01:04:37.640 --> 01:04:40.640]  Say Jesus Christ shall rescue me
[01:04:40.640 --> 01:04:42.640]  Me can not chant down Babylon
[01:04:42.640 --> 01:04:44.640]  Oh I can die man
[01:04:44.640 --> 01:04:46.640]  Chant for justice man
[01:04:46.640 --> 01:04:48.640]  Take it easily man
[01:04:48.640 --> 01:04:50.640]  Chant for truth
[01:04:50.640 --> 01:04:53.640]  Chant for the truth
[01:04:53.640 --> 01:04:54.640]  Me leave this world
[01:04:54.640 --> 01:04:56.640]  Me do business what them say
[01:04:56.640 --> 01:04:58.640]  Me no business what them do
[01:04:58.640 --> 01:05:00.640]  They want to see the rest of man fail
[01:05:00.640 --> 01:05:01.640]  Not get through
[01:05:01.640 --> 01:05:03.640]  But yet the rest of man
[01:05:03.640 --> 01:05:05.640]  Man you know what him a do
[01:05:05.640 --> 01:05:07.640]  He call on God Almighty
[01:05:07.640 --> 01:05:08.640]  And he do that for you
[01:05:08.640 --> 01:05:10.640]  And I know who we do
[01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:12.640]  And no hell how you do
[01:05:12.640 --> 01:05:14.640]  The rest of man has something
[01:05:14.640 --> 01:05:16.640]  He must follow through
[01:05:16.640 --> 01:05:18.640]  Creator has something
[01:05:18.640 --> 01:05:19.640]  God bless you
[01:05:19.640 --> 01:05:21.640]  And that's the rest of man
[01:05:21.640 --> 01:05:23.640]  You have to do what is true
[01:05:23.640 --> 01:05:25.640]  Chant down Babylon
[01:05:25.640 --> 01:05:27.640]  One by one
[01:05:27.640 --> 01:05:28.640]  Chant for truth
[01:05:28.640 --> 01:05:30.640]  Take it easily man
[01:05:30.640 --> 01:05:32.640]  Chant for the truth
[01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:34.640]  Chant for the truth
[01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:35.640]  Chant for the truth
[01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:36.640]  Once released
[01:05:36.640 --> 01:05:37.640]  Well then
[01:05:37.640 --> 01:05:40.640]  Get a body truck and party later
[01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:43.640]  Me want them to know I am not your rest
[01:05:43.640 --> 01:05:47.640]  To chant down Babylon now not later
[01:05:47.640 --> 01:05:51.640]  To let Babylon know say we getting greater
[01:05:51.640 --> 01:05:52.640]  Okay we are back
[01:05:52.640 --> 01:05:54.640]  We are taking a call
[01:05:54.640 --> 01:05:57.640]  And Janet in Florida has stayed on the line
[01:05:57.640 --> 01:05:59.640]  Gary from Georgia has called in
[01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:02.640]  So we are going to bring up Janet and Gary on the line
[01:06:02.640 --> 01:06:05.640]  To discuss the traffic ticket issue
[01:06:05.640 --> 01:06:11.640]  Gary were you listening last hour when Janet was talking about a traffic ticket in Georgia?
[01:06:11.640 --> 01:06:13.640]  Yes I was Deborah
[01:06:13.640 --> 01:06:18.640]  So do you have any comments for Janet right now?
[01:06:18.640 --> 01:06:22.640]  Absolutely without legal reservation I favor quote
[01:06:22.640 --> 01:06:23.640]  Absolutely
[01:06:23.640 --> 01:06:26.640]  Okay so go ahead and Janet is on the line here
[01:06:26.640 --> 01:06:28.640]  Okay I will do this
[01:06:28.640 --> 01:06:33.640]  See at the end of the street traffic falls
[01:06:33.640 --> 01:06:35.640]  Especially on the corridor
[01:06:35.640 --> 01:06:39.640]  I-95 along the coast
[01:06:39.640 --> 01:06:45.640]  And I-75 from people traveling north to Florida
[01:06:45.640 --> 01:06:46.640]  Or vice versa
[01:06:46.640 --> 01:06:49.640]  So these old towns they have jurisdiction
[01:06:49.640 --> 01:06:53.640]  And you will notice the pavement even changes
[01:06:53.640 --> 01:06:55.640]  But they have jurisdiction on that section
[01:06:55.640 --> 01:07:00.640]  And that is why they love to
[01:07:00.640 --> 01:07:02.640]  Catch people for speeding
[01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:06.640]  However one thing I love about Andy Craig
[01:07:06.640 --> 01:07:08.640]  He says what is this?
[01:07:08.640 --> 01:07:10.640]  Everyone listens to this program
[01:07:10.640 --> 01:07:13.640]  Old Clinton says I do not have sex with that woman
[01:07:13.640 --> 01:07:16.640]  Then what is the definition of sex?
[01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:18.640]  As defined by terms of art
[01:07:18.640 --> 01:07:20.640]  Because we have sex court law
[01:07:20.640 --> 01:07:23.640]  And we have law
[01:07:23.640 --> 01:07:25.640]  Karma law or law of God
[01:07:25.640 --> 01:07:27.640]  Either you are a creature of stature
[01:07:27.640 --> 01:07:29.640]  Either you are a driver
[01:07:29.640 --> 01:07:34.640]  Or as far as Georgia law is concerned
[01:07:34.640 --> 01:07:36.640]  Title 40 Georgia code
[01:07:36.640 --> 01:07:38.640]  Defines what a driver is
[01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:41.640]  And as far as license means
[01:07:41.640 --> 01:07:44.640]  You ask the people who work for you
[01:07:44.640 --> 01:07:46.640]  Can I do that?
[01:07:46.640 --> 01:07:48.640]  Means a license
[01:07:48.640 --> 01:07:51.640]  Even in Brazil they use the word license
[01:07:51.640 --> 01:07:54.640]  A license for the word excuse me
[01:07:54.640 --> 01:07:58.640]  So as far as people traveling through Georgia
[01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:01.640]  And they get you for speeding
[01:08:01.640 --> 01:08:03.640]  First thing anyone does
[01:08:03.640 --> 01:08:06.640]  Is what does the citation
[01:08:06.640 --> 01:08:08.640]  They love to call them tickets
[01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:10.640]  I never heard
[01:08:10.640 --> 01:08:13.640]  I have never, never found in the law
[01:08:13.640 --> 01:08:19.640]  All the codification of the Georgia administrative code
[01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:22.640]  Which is called the regulations
[01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:23.640]  People have a problem
[01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:26.640]  And Andy when you do quote Texas sir
[01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:32.640]  Please say this is equivalent to the CFRs with the fence
[01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:35.640]  Because people say the administrative code
[01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:36.640]  What?
[01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:40.640]  Anyway Georgia has its own administrative code
[01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:43.640]  Pursuant to the administrative procedures act
[01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:47.640]  Of 50-13-1
[01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:51.640]  And also if you want to make an open records act request
[01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:54.640]  50-18-1
[01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.640]  And what you want to do man
[01:08:56.640 --> 01:08:58.640]  Is if you have a citation
[01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:02.640]  You want to write to the Secretary of State
[01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:06.640]  And ask for a certified copy
[01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:09.640]  Of the Georgia Open Records Act
[01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:14.640]  For a certified copy of the substantive regulations
[01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:17.640]  That regulate your conduct
[01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:19.640]  Because all the way
[01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:22.640]  Anyone can violate privacy
[01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.640]  And anyone listening to this program I tell them
[01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:29.640]  Is immaterial of what anyone says
[01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:33.640]  You start with suffocation
[01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.640]  Where is their right to violate your privacy?
[01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:39.640]  And therefore they say well you have a license
[01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:43.640]  Therefore you sign a contract for permission to do something
[01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.640]  However as a matter of statutory law
[01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:50.640]  They have to propagate regulations
[01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:53.640]  And those regulations have to be published in a
[01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:57.640]  U of T bulletin of the Secretary of State
[01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:00.640]  Of the State of Georgia
[01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:03.640]  And then they have to go through the notice and comment procedures
[01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:08.640]  Same as section 553, B, C, and D, the FEDS
[01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:15.640]  And the whole issue is there are no substantive regulations
[01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:19.640]  That would affect your rights and duties
[01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:24.640]  Even if you were one of those commercial drivers
[01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.640]  As he says I totally agree and concord with him
[01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:30.640]  It's in Georgia code
[01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:34.640]  I was actually traveling
[01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:36.640]  But I didn't know that
[01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.640]  I didn't know the difference then
[01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:40.640]  But I wasn't speeding
[01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:43.640]  I have a 1997 Volkswagen
[01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:45.640]  And it cannot go 85 miles per hour
[01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:47.640]  Even if I wanted it to
[01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:50.640]  It couldn't and I was in a cluster of cars
[01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.640]  So how could he determine that I was speeding?
[01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:57.640]  What message did he tell you he used to make that determination?
[01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:02.640]  He used a caliber or something like that
[01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:04.640]  A radar gun?
[01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:06.640]  Or a radar or a LIDAR?
[01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:08.640]  A white car
[01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:10.640]  And I was in a cluster of cars
[01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.640]  And my car is white and they say that those guns
[01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:17.640]  It's hard to pick up white cars
[01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:19.640]  So how could he determine?
[01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:21.640]  What kind of gun is it?
[01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:23.640]  Was it radar or was it LIDAR?
[01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:25.640]  I didn't see it
[01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:27.640]  I have no idea
[01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:30.640]  Does it say on the citation?
[01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:36.640]  It says calibration slash check
[01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:39.640]  And it has a serial number
[01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.640]  Would that help?
[01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:46.640]  Is there a check box or anything on there for the type of unit they were using?
[01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:50.640]  The calibration check just means that they're certifying
[01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:53.640]  They calibrated it before the beginning of the duty shift
[01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:57.640]  Which will be a lie, but still
[01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:01.640]  There's only two things that they use normally
[01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:04.640]  Unless they've come out with something else that's new
[01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:07.640]  It's a radar gun or it's a LIDAR gun
[01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:09.640]  Which is a laser radar
[01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:14.640]  Now, there are different conditions under which either of those must be operated
[01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:16.640]  Or they will not function
[01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:17.640]  It's a box, it's a laser one
[01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:18.640]  I'm sorry
[01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:19.640]  It's a laser one
[01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:20.640]  Yes
[01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:23.640]  Okay, and where was the officer in relation to your automobile?
[01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:28.640]  I was all the way to the left-hand side of the road
[01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.640]  It's a three-lane highway
[01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:33.640]  I was all the way on the left side
[01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:38.640]  And he was in sort of like a ditch all the way on the right
[01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:40.640]  Okay
[01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:44.640]  And you say there were cars all around you at what distance?
[01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:53.640]  I would say like around me like within 10 feet maybe
[01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:58.640]  In all the lanes between you and him or just in the lane next to you or in front of you?
[01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.640]  In all the lanes
[01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:03.640]  Okay
[01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:13.640]  Then if that is accurate that it is a total impossibility for him to have tracked you on radar under those conditions
[01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:17.640]  Or laser radar under those conditions because that is a line of sight item
[01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:24.640]  The only place they can fire that thing and have it operate correctly is on your license plate because it's reflective
[01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:27.640]  But in order for it to be accurate
[01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:33.640]  They have to fire at the license plate coming at a certain angle or straight on
[01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:40.640]  If they exceed that angle they get a false reading back off the laser splatter
[01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:46.640]  Just like they do with a bounce radar wave when they use a radar gun if you're traveling next to a semi-box trailer
[01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:51.640]  The gun will malfunction as far as giving an accurate reading
[01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:52.640]  Yeah
[01:13:52.640 --> 01:14:02.640]  Now the laser is a lot more sensitive but it is also completely unreliable technology in this area and the courts know that
[01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:06.640]  So you can contest the use of the radar
[01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:16.640]  There are court cases that say that it is a fallible technology and has not been certified for use in this way
[01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:26.640]  And that with the line of sight the officer had it is an impossibility for him to have fired it at your automobile and gotten a correct reading
[01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:36.640]  That's what I was thinking I mean I was even going to ask him like how can you determine that you were so far you were all the way on the other side
[01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:44.640]  But I was like I got really nervous so I just had tongue tied and twisted and then they started like asking me other questions
[01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:53.640]  They arrested and they started like asking questions if I had drugs in the car and what not and like you know like just like trying to build another case on me
[01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:58.640]  Yeah that's what they do they were trying to intimidate you that's also a standard procedure okay
[01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:06.640]  They don't want you fighting back they know they're lying through their teeth but they're going to intimidate you so you don't make a ruckus and let them get their money
[01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:08.640]  That's what that's all about
[01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:19.640]  And for the search they pulled my car but they weren't able to touch it so at least you know I won that one and I was wondering if there's any way that
[01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:21.640]  Did they tow your car?
[01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:23.640]  Yeah they pulled it
[01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:29.640]  Okay then you've also got them on Grand Theft Auto that is a cause of action in Georgia isn't it Gary?
[01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:44.640]  Oh yes sir and I didn't want to interrupt you sir but I have a heck of a lot more to add in other words there's no substantive regulation for Georgia
[01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:46.640]  Gary you're cutting out real bad
[01:15:46.640 --> 01:16:03.640]  I know sir because somebody's beeping me I apologize I will repeat again is that there are no substantive regulations having a force effective law that would affect my duties even if I was a regulated entity
[01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:24.640]  In other words sir there is no law because we've done our open records act request and asked for first I need to know for the lady what was the so called stanchion she was charged with
[01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:36.640]  Then you take the stanchion and see if it has complied with Georgia or the Texas Administrative Procedures Act in propagation regulations there too
[01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:39.640]  Okay we gotta wait
[01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:41.640]  Yes sir hang on just
[01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:43.640]  Yeah hang on just one moment
[01:16:43.640 --> 01:17:01.640]  Alright we're going to finish up on the other side with Gary and Janet and then we're going to go to Mitchell in Texas and others callers please stay on the line and we will take your calls shortly after this break we'll be right back
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[01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:25.640]  Okay we're taking a calls here right now we're talking with Janet and Gary and Gary you are just about to talk to Janet about the administrative procedures act and
[01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:38.640]  Janet I would suggest reading the transportation code for Georgia and Gary please continue and let's try to be as efficient as possible because we've got a lot of callers waiting on the line go ahead Gary
[01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:55.640]  Yes ma'am I got so many issues that I guess I'll have to call another time because that's not even purpose of call I got great issues on candies for you and even the oil spill with that personal knowledge of those things too but let's get back to the traffic issue
[01:18:55.640 --> 01:19:14.640]  Anything to anything in America that you have to have a permission to have a license it falls under the fourth what's known as the fourth branch of government because Constitution only had we only have three branches of government so after primarily
[01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:35.640]  You deal with Roosevelt that came out with these agencies so here if you were if you were stopped so-called for speeding and he has so-called a driver's license well then all there must be a legislative regulation has a force effective law on you
[01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:55.640]  So therefore if you get a stamp the so-called ticket the yellow summons you're going to have a they never put the regulation on there they only put the stancher so you take the stancher and then you ask the Georgia Department of Driver Services really
[01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:16.640]  And they have to be published with the Secretary of State and I can't do bulletin to anyway you want a certified copy of the implementing legislative regulation that would have the force effective law of private individuals as a lot of people say guess what
[01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:38.640]  There is none. There is none man. So therefore everything that anyone done was bogus and then the next thing you have a right confrontation a right that are six amendments well as Georgia's well as Florida Constitution to how you going to confront a radar gun and tell it the swear the truth it will never never happen so
[01:20:38.640 --> 01:21:07.640]  Well is there anyway like who who do I request for the the cop cam like before they stopped me that well there won't there won't be a camera that shows the angle he was shooting your car from his car if I'm not mistaken was he inside the car outside the car he was inside the car he was inside the car was he pointing it out his driver's window
[01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:36.640]  I have no idea because I was driving and before I know it I'm like I had seen him like like in the corner like all the way to my right far away. I had seen him there and I know that in Georgia you have to drive like slow because the speed limits change like constantly and I had seen him and all of a sudden he gets behind me and so I get all the way to my right and I pulled over and he asked for my license and registration and
[01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:45.640]  he says that I was going 85 miles an hour and I was a I didn't even answer because I wasn't going 85 miles an hour.
[01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:58.640]  Well the thing is LIDAR cannot be used from inside an automobile except through an open window LIDAR cannot shoot through glass. It has to be used in open air.
[01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:22.640]  He was lying because my husband was outside the car and then he told my husband that oh of course you don't want your car searched it's full of drugs and whatnot we're going to call the dogs and my husband said call the dogs and so he picked up his cell phone and my husband told him why don't you call from like the
[01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:43.640]  cops on the radio and he's like oh I did but they told me to call on the cell phone but don't worry because she's not working today and we were like okay so I don't know they were just giving us like a hard time and they were saying that we were giving them a hard time.
[01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:54.640]  Okay well you do in that case you do want the recordings both audio and video from that patrol car because they would have had to record everything going on during that encounter.
[01:22:54.640 --> 01:23:03.640]  So I could request that because I'm going to court on Tuesday but I'm not going to take the plea I want to take it all the way to trial.
[01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:14.640]  Yeah tell them that you're demanding discovery in this case because you wish to show that the officers violated law and fabricated the charge.
[01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:24.640]  Yeah well don't do that okay don't say anything about innocence or guilt because they're going to take that and apply that as a plea.
[01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:26.640]  Don't do that.
[01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:27.640]  Eddie.
[01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:29.640]  Yes Gary.
[01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:37.640]  I recommend to people the first time because the administrative tribunals they're not courts of record.
[01:23:37.640 --> 01:23:43.640]  Ask her she demands a jury trial to have it bound to a superior court.
[01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:51.640]  It'll take a year and she can do all the discovery because she can't do discovery in these little chicken little administrative courts.
[01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:55.640]  They're not really courts so ma'am have your case bound over.
[01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:59.640]  It'll take a year you can do all your discovery everything you need.
[01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:00.640]  Thank you.
[01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:01.640]  Okay.
[01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:03.640]  Thank you.
[01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:17.640]  Yeah if there's some way to work it out Janet if there's a way that you want to give some contact information to us and have us pass it on to Gary an email or something like that then I'll be happy to do that.
[01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:30.640]  He is more familiar with that particular state statute set than I am and if he's willing to help you with it and show you where to look then by all means we'll make sure you two get where you can talk.
[01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:32.640]  Okay sounds good.
[01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:34.640]  Thank you so much.
[01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.640]  Send Eddie an email Janet just go to our website ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:48.640]  And Gary if you are willing to do that would you also please send me an email so that I can exchange the two if you are willing.
[01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:51.640]  I don't have your email address have Deborah's.
[01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:55.640]  It's on the website Gary it's Eddie at ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:57.640]  Okay very good sir.
[01:24:57.640 --> 01:24:59.640]  I will send that email.
[01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:01.640]  All right thank you Janet.
[01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:02.640]  Thank you.
[01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:04.640]  Thank you for helping me out.
[01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:05.640]  Okay have a good night.
[01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:06.640]  Okay you too.
[01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:07.640]  Okay.
[01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:09.640]  Okay thank you too Gary.
[01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:12.640]  Yes ma'am Deborah I do have other issues.
[01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:22.640]  I know you have callers but I do want to say this at your leisure because I have called other nights and well you told me to call tonight and so forth.
[01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:24.640]  I understand your issues.
[01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:27.640]  I'm glad you do have a caller.
[01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.640]  It's good that you have a show that does that you know it's got plenty of callers.
[01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:39.640]  So anyway I got issues on the oil spill I had personal knowledge I cleaned it up I was in there.
[01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:41.640]  I'm an ex-Marine officer.
[01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:49.640]  Next thing I just want to mention is subjects that I want to hang up is notice of penance which you guys have mentioned.
[01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:54.640]  And that's involuntary servitude is 20 years in jail.
[01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:59.640]  And then of course hopefully I have a summons on my APA.
[01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:04.640]  Well Gary give us an update on the oil spill situation in Georgia.
[01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:05.640]  Right now?
[01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:08.640]  Yeah and then we'll go to Mitchell.
[01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:19.640]  Very good because I've heard a comment when the oil spill started I used to be an engineer on these huge tankers.
[01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:30.640]  And then we as a licensed engineer I go to jail if I even let any oil pollute that water.
[01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:38.640]  And if I didn't notify the Coast Guard fine and fine and it's a terrible situation.
[01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:45.640]  So as you said Debra all they need is these huge oil tankers to make them some money.
[01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:54.640]  So rather than the pipeline being pumped into the tanker itself they have these huge pumps.
[01:26:54.640 --> 01:27:01.640]  And they have these centrifuges that separate water from the oil.
[01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:06.640]  And people say well put chemical in there to disperse the oil.
[01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:09.640]  No you're polluting the whole water still.
[01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:14.640]  Have you seen anything yourself concerning this oil spill Gary this time?
[01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:22.640]  Well not right now ma'am I'm retired but I'm telling you what I used to do to work on these big tankers.
[01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:32.640]  And we would take the sludge we pumped all of that oil and send it ashore to big tanks to where they could morph.
[01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:37.640]  That's why they have what they call crackers they purify oil from the water.
[01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:44.640]  And there is not one reason why the people have to put up with what they're putting up with.
[01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:51.640]  And I've even heard the gas is building up and they're going to have a big explosion and a tsunami and so forth.
[01:27:51.640 --> 01:28:02.640]  But as you mentioned the other night on your program well hey all you need is a bunch of tankers out there scooping up this oil.
[01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:11.640]  And pump it ashore and make money rather than these poor sea life and creatures in this crisis.
[01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:18.640]  It's like something you know the Twin Towers in New York like it's intentional to let them do it.
[01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:21.640]  Right well even that only addresses the oil that's in the water already.
[01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:26.640]  That still doesn't address the main problem which is you know the gusher at the bottom of the ocean.
[01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:30.640]  Which it's starting to look like there's no way for them to actually do anything about.
[01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:42.640]  Well I know I've heard that it was four miles to the bottom which is too long to be sucking.
[01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:47.640]  But still they can have the lines down there with the big pumps.
[01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:52.640]  What they're doing would do Deborah is suck oil and water.
[01:28:52.640 --> 01:29:02.640]  Since the oil is more prevalent than the water it would be sucking these big tankers and they pump it ashore.
[01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:11.640]  Plus even on the tankers itself they have these big centrifuges that separate the oil from water.
[01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:18.640]  And the water goes in one tank and you don't pump it overboard because it still has sludge in it.
[01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:25.640]  They pump it ashore and they could be doing that and it certainly will never spread.
[01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:34.640]  And it's about as I say I'm an old seamen, retired seamen and any seamen who never worked on a tanker will tell you that.
[01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:36.640]  Because we do it all the time.
[01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:40.640]  There was an oil spill I think even you mentioned in Saudi Arabia.
[01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:43.640]  Yep that's exactly how they fixed it.
[01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:46.640]  Yes ma'am and that's what they can do right now.
[01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:48.640]  Okay thank you so much Gary.
[01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:54.640]  Alright when we get back on the other side we're going to go to Mitchell in Texas and others who have been patiently holding thank you callers.
[01:29:54.640 --> 01:30:00.640]  And we'll be going to the rest of your calls on the other side.
[01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:06.640]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM but finding things on the internet isn't so easy.
[01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:09.640]  And neither is finding like minded people to share it with.
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[01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:01.640]  This is the rule of law.
[01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:04.640]  We're taking our calls and we're going now to Mitchell in Texas.
[01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:06.640]  Mitchell, thank you for calling.
[01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:08.640]  What is on your mind tonight?
[01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:13.640]  Hey guys, I've got some thoughts on this constitutional subject you're discussing tonight.
[01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:15.640]  Sure, go ahead.
[01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:23.640]  I agree with caller Randy Reller before about implementing some kind of punishment for constitutional violations.
[01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:31.640]  But I've also got a suggestion to Randy Kelton's question as to how to implement that.
[01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:40.640]  And it sort of comes from an approach of sticking with the rule of law and not using sort of these grandiose assumptions about,
[01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:47.640]  well, we ought to take them down to the courthouse and just hang them or a judge ought to step in or the governor should step in.
[01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:59.640]  It seems to me that the problem is that violating the federal constitution by someone in the state has no state penalty associated with it.
[01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:02.640]  It's essentially not a state crime to do that.
[01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:11.640]  And that's where, as I see it, the state sort of has some foothold or some governance over the people.
[01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:20.640]  You know, you have a criminal code, a code of penal violations or whatever.
[01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:28.640]  So actually, if I can interject for a second, there are criminal statutes or violations of the constitutions within the state.
[01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:38.640]  No matter who does it, even the state constitutions contain the oath of office where these public officials are required to take the oath to support
[01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:43.640]  and defend both the state and federal constitutions as part of their job.
[01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:45.640]  And what's the penalty for that?
[01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:48.640]  The penalty for that is fraud and breach of contract.
[01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:54.640]  And the criminal penalties is whatever damage and harm they cause in the process of that breach and fraud.
[01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:57.640]  I kind of like his position. This is a good point.
[01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:02.640]  You caught me off too early, so let me just finish here and then you could start shooting it down.
[01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:05.640]  Oh, I'm not shooting it down. I'm just commenting on it.
[01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:13.640]  My thought is to simply have a state law that says violation of the federal constitution is a felony.
[01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:28.640]  And beyond that, any legislator, a Texas elected federal congressman who votes for a statute that oversteps the limits of federal authority,
[01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.640]  that act constitutes a criminal violation.
[01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:42.640]  See, one of the other problems I guess I'm trying to address by that is I believe the state constitution or penal code or whatever
[01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:51.640]  says that an act outside of the state boundaries can't constitute a criminal action within the state.
[01:35:51.640 --> 01:36:04.640]  So my thought in this regard is to simply have legislation that says if a federally elected congressman from Texas
[01:36:04.640 --> 01:36:12.640]  votes in favor of a law that's clearly in violation of the constitution, that is a state crime.
[01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:25.640]  And the last aspect of this is to have in such legislation that these charges would go through sort of the normal process that all criminal actions do.
[01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:30.640]  If there's reasons to think a crime has been committed, you bring it to a grand jury.
[01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:37.640]  If a grand jury brings back a true bill or whatever the specific term is, then it goes to a regular jury.
[01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:42.640]  And the jury, the people, will ultimately decide if there's been a violation.
[01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:45.640]  So that's the package.
[01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:47.640]  I throw that there.
[01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:51.640]  I kind of like it because I think he's right.
[01:36:51.640 --> 01:37:02.640]  While most everything that's in the federal constitution is also in the state constitution codified into statute,
[01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:16.640]  if let's say a federal official acting under his official capacity as a fed violates a federal law within the boundaries of the state,
[01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:27.640]  the state essentially has no jurisdiction, but if the state filed a state law, then the state could prosecute him directly.
[01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:28.640]  Exactly.
[01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:34.640]  But in the case of this particular issue, those crimes already exist within every state.
[01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:37.640]  They're sedition and they're treason.
[01:37:37.640 --> 01:37:39.640]  Those are already crimes in every state.
[01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:45.640]  No, you can't just get to treason. Treason takes special things to be treason.
[01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:48.640]  I understand that. That's why I said both of them. Sedition?
[01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:55.640]  No, you can't just say anything somebody does, you can't just arbitrarily call it sedition.
[01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:58.640]  This goes to the overthrow of the government.
[01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:10.640]  And if a guy just comes out and beats the crapola out of somebody that he has under custody, that's not sedition, that's not treason.
[01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:14.640]  If it's a public official in violation of his oath, I would disagree with that.
[01:38:14.640 --> 01:38:17.640]  That's not sedition, that's not treason. They're defined.
[01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:24.640]  You can't just arbitrarily say we want to call something treason. Treason is plotting to overthrow the government.
[01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.640]  No, that's not the definition of treason.
[01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:31.640]  But that's also not the act, Eddie, in my opinion.
[01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:37.640]  The treason is a difficult word, or violating an oath to law office is sort of another issue.
[01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:46.640]  But if you're doing something that takes away the rights of people to whatever, drink clean water or...
[01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:49.640]  Okay, here's the way that blacks have it defined.
[01:38:49.640 --> 01:39:04.640]  But the way the courts have also talked about the defining of treason is this, that any time a public official wages war against the Constitution by doing something they're not allowed to do, then they are committing treason.
[01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:09.640]  The courts have specifically said that. Now, this is the definition of treason for that.
[01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:17.640]  A breach of allegiance to one's government, usually committed through levying war against such government or by giving aid or comfort to the enemy.
[01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:28.640]  The offense of tempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance, or of betraying the state in the hands of a foreign power.
[01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:37.640]  Now, next to the last one I read, the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state.
[01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:50.640]  When we have set up a particular form of government within the state and they, through other means, are attempting to alter that form of government without the people's approval, that falls under this definition.
[01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:56.640]  By that definition, any violation of any law can be trapped under treason.
[01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:05.640]  No, not if the laws dealing with governmental function and form is what this is talking into. This is what it's addressing.
[01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:13.640]  This is way, way overreaching. There are other things we can charge them with that's not-
[01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:17.640]  Yes, there are. I'm not saying there aren't. There are lots of things.
[01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:25.640]  This goes back to the argument you and I had on the air one night, Randy, about charging them with crimes under state law when they commit it within the state.
[01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:29.640]  And you said the state didn't have jurisdiction over a Fed. And I said baloney.
[01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:36.640]  The Constitution says that any criminal act shall be tried where it was committed. And if it's committed-
[01:40:36.640 --> 01:40:47.640]  Yes, but that doesn't mean the state can't trial them in the state. The Fed has to trial them within a federal court within the state.
[01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:54.640]  If they violated state law, the Fed doesn't have to trial them.
[01:40:54.640 --> 01:41:07.640]  That's the point. That's the whole point. If they're violating a federal law and not a state law and they're within the state, the state don't have jurisdiction to prosecute.
[01:41:07.640 --> 01:41:15.640]  Only the Fed does. Like bank robbery.
[01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:25.640]  Well, bank robbery, I may have lost your overall point there, but bank robbery, in my opinion, is never anything that should be under federal jurisdiction anyway.
[01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:33.640]  I mean, any crime, any normal everyday crime is simply not under federal jurisdiction. There's no provision of the Constitution.
[01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:37.640]  That right there is what this bill dealt with. You're correct there.
[01:41:37.640 --> 01:41:51.640]  This New Hampshire bill specifically says that only those criminal acts that the Constitution specifically allocated, which was charges of sedition and treason and waging war against the country,
[01:41:51.640 --> 01:42:00.640]  those are the criminal acts that the Feds were granted authority over and no other. That's exactly what that bill was talking about.
[01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:12.640]  I think that particular provision would answer both of these issues, because the Fed wouldn't have the jurisdiction in the first place.
[01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:13.640]  Exactly.
[01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:17.640]  And it's a jurisdiction they've never had. They've just usurped.
[01:42:17.640 --> 01:42:33.640]  And, Eddie, even if, again, I sort of disagree with your, I guess, point about it really being an act of treason, but we can agree to disagree on that, all I'm, I guess, offering with this other suggestion is it's a lot simpler to prove
[01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:43.640]  and a lot easier to prove, and you don't have to convince people about or go quite as far as convincing people about how it's really an act of treason and overthrowing the government.
[01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:57.640]  It would just come down to is this allowable by the Constitution or not? And a jury, in my opinion, can easily hear arguments about that and decide on it.
[01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:08.640]  Yeah, I agree. I like your approach. I like the idea of it. And the Massachusetts proposed resolution, it kind of goes to that issue.
[01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:16.640]  It's telling that if this goes to preemption, and that's been the problem lately is federal preemption in the state.
[01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:23.640]  And this is a really great resolution addressing this state, this federal preemption.
[01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:34.640]  And I also agree with the call of Randy from before, too, that at least in my opinion, I certainly am not an advocate of succession because of all the downsides.
[01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:40.640]  Okay, wait, you've got to stop agreeing with Randy. He's going to get the big head and it will really be a problem.
[01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:44.640]  Okay, one short comment after we come back, if that's okay.
[01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:49.640]  Okay, one short comment when we come back and then we're going to go to Ty in Texas. We're coming into the homestretch.
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[01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:18.640]  Okay, go ahead, Mitchell. You had one more comment.
[01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:25.640]  Yes, I was just going to say in regard to that comment Randy Reller made before about the New Hampshire legislation,
[01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:36.640]  I agree with him that while succession may be a good last resort, I almost get the feeling that the way that legislation is written,
[01:45:36.640 --> 01:45:42.640]  sort of saying like, okay, if you're not going to play fair, we're going to take our marbles and leave.
[01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:48.640]  It doesn't sort of revert back to, again, what this show is, your show is all about.
[01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:57.640]  Follow the rule of law, and if the rule of law isn't followed, then you go through measures to try to get it implemented correctly.
[01:45:57.640 --> 01:46:05.640]  You don't just say, okay, we're going to leave, not to even mention the potential consequences that could happen.
[01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:13.640]  You may need to go to that ultimately, but as a first step in that regard, I just don't think that's the way to go.
[01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:20.640]  I agree, and Mitchell, that's why I was telling people earlier to watch the documentary, Don't Tread on Me, Rise of the Republic.
[01:46:20.640 --> 01:46:28.640]  And folks, if you have a subscription to PrisonPlanet.tv, you can watch that documentary for free.
[01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:34.640]  And, of course, we urge everyone to purchase the documentary because people spent a lot of money into making it.
[01:46:34.640 --> 01:46:38.640]  And believe me, man, I was so jazzed and psyched after I saw it.
[01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:48.640]  There are a lot of good ideas of how we can fix these problems at the state level by basically taking back control of our state governments.
[01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:54.640]  And there's a lot of state legislators out there in many states that are as raving mad as we are.
[01:46:54.640 --> 01:47:02.640]  And so I urge folks to watch this documentary because a lot of these state legislators have put forth a lot of good ideas that we need to support and spread.
[01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:04.640]  Thank you, Mitchell. We appreciate that.
[01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:06.640]  Okay. Thanks, guys. Have a good evening.
[01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:07.640]  Okay. You too.
[01:47:07.640 --> 01:47:10.640]  All right. We're going now to Ty in Texas.
[01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:11.640]  Ty, thanks for calling in.
[01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:13.640]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:14.640]  Sure. Thanks for taking my call.
[01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:18.640]  So, you know, I really like what Mitch had to say.
[01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:20.640]  And I was thinking about this the other night.
[01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:31.640]  Randy had made a comment, I think, on Tuesday's show regarding the legislative act that was passed regarding that a law enforcement officer can arrest...
[01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:35.640]  Hold on one second, Ty. You're kind of echoing a lot. Are you on a speakerphone?
[01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:36.640]  No, I'm not, actually.
[01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:40.640]  Okay. All right. Well, if you're on a headset or something, try to get it closer to your mouth.
[01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:44.640]  Let me just step into a different room here.
[01:47:44.640 --> 01:47:45.640]  Okay.
[01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:46.640]  Is that better?
[01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:47.640]  Yeah, that's a little better. Go ahead.
[01:47:47.640 --> 01:47:48.640]  Okay.
[01:47:48.640 --> 01:48:04.640]  So the other night, Eddie actually said that some legislative bonehead was, you know, passed an act that allowed any law enforcement agent to arrest you if he sees you committing a crime in front of him.
[01:48:04.640 --> 01:48:09.640]  And what I really thought interesting about the comment is that, you know, some bonehead...
[01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:13.640]  So I have kind of an idea that really goes along with what Mitch was saying.
[01:48:13.640 --> 01:48:20.640]  Now, perhaps a constitutional amendment is what this would actually take in order to really make it work, but this also goes...
[01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:22.640]  Speaks towards good faith legislation.
[01:48:22.640 --> 01:48:29.640]  So oftentimes in these bills that get passed, you know, there is an item in the bill that has nothing to do with whatever the nature of the bill is.
[01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:34.640]  So therefore, that particular law that gets passed is not good faith legislation.
[01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:52.640]  So if we made it a crime, i.e., a felony punishable under the terms of treason, to pass a bill that includes some non-good faith legislation, then we could quit talking about one item vetoes.
[01:48:52.640 --> 01:49:01.640]  Then we could, you know, make sure that senators and congressmen actually read the bills that they're presented, and then we wouldn't end up with things like the Patriot Act, et cetera.
[01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:10.640]  Now, there may be something like this that already exists, but if it does, it does not seem to be enforced at any level.
[01:49:10.640 --> 01:49:13.640]  Eddie, you going to tell them about it?
[01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:15.640]  Which part? There is a section...
[01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:18.640]  One bill, one item?
[01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:21.640]  Yeah, in both the...
[01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:28.640]  In the Texas Constitution, it specifically states that there can only be one subject to a bill.
[01:49:28.640 --> 01:49:30.640]  There cannot be another.
[01:49:30.640 --> 01:49:33.640]  The bill is only allowed one subject.
[01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:43.640]  That subject must have a title that specifies what the subject of that bill is, and it is required in Texas before they...
[01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:56.640]  In the process of what they euphemized it as cleaning up the language removed from the Constitution, it was mandatory that it be read upon the floor of each house three separate days,
[01:49:56.640 --> 01:50:05.640]  and that that could only be avoided in a state of emergency and by a three-quarters majority vote of each house.
[01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:09.640]  Are we operating under a state of emergency currently?
[01:50:09.640 --> 01:50:12.640]  We're not. If it is, it's an undeclared state of emergency.
[01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:15.640]  Absolutely. Absolutely.
[01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:23.640]  So at this point, our legislature is already a grotesque violation of what the People's Constitution requires of them.
[01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:29.640]  Why aren't we moving against them under 3903 penal code?
[01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:41.640]  Well, this goes back to that initiation I had of the constitutional amendment requiring a separate grand jury for acts committed by public officials.
[01:50:41.640 --> 01:50:51.640]  This type of thing that we're discussing in all these different angles, this is exactly what that amendment to the Constitution would be put in place for.
[01:50:51.640 --> 01:51:00.640]  A citizens panel would determine whether or not that public servant violated the Constitution or the laws and say, you have no immunity for that.
[01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:06.640]  None, not a zip. You are hereby indicted. You will stand trial for your crimes.
[01:51:06.640 --> 01:51:14.640]  I like the citizens panel idea based on the fact that any ethics committee would be like two wolves talking about which seats they're going to eat.
[01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:28.640]  Yeah, the bill I devised for the constitutional amendment forbids participation in this grand jury by anyone that is or has been an employee or officer or agent of government.
[01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:31.640]  Only the people may sit on this grand jury.
[01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:38.640]  So I guess it comes back down to Randy's original question, how do we act upon this and make it happen?
[01:51:38.640 --> 01:51:42.640]  Well, I may have an answer to that also.
[01:51:42.640 --> 01:51:54.640]  Our good friend Larry sent me an email with the contact information of the chairman over the entire legislature, the Speaker of the House, okay,
[01:51:54.640 --> 01:52:06.640]  with his contact information that they want me to do the same thing about addressing the issues before the legislature as they want me to do with my rep.
[01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:19.640]  They want me to sit down and write everything down and any provisional statutory changes or amendments or whatever and get all that done, which is that second book I've been working on.
[01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:27.640]  If I get the opportunity to stand in front of them, I'm going to be able to hit them with a book the size of the Houston telephone director.
[01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:30.640]  That's what they call a white paper.
[01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:43.640]  And I'm going to hit them right in the teeth with it because what I have been doing every single day and what I was originally going to talk about tonight before I got to get my hands on this bill in New Hampshire,
[01:52:43.640 --> 01:52:50.640]  I have been going through the Code of Criminal Procedure and several other codes chapter by chapter.
[01:52:50.640 --> 01:53:02.640]  I am writing out longhand what my understanding is in plain English of exactly what that particular statutory provision is saying.
[01:53:02.640 --> 01:53:14.640]  I have been making notes about how what I am reading does or does not correlate with constitutional requirements or other statutory requirements.
[01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:28.640]  I am basically taking their codes and I am dissecting them piece by piece so that I can kick them right in the teeth and tell them which one of you Stevie Wonder reading individuals did this.
[01:53:28.640 --> 01:53:37.640]  Because it's obvious you can't see what you're reading, so you must be doing it by touch in the dark and while you're drunk.
[01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:46.640]  Because none of this makes sense when you try to put it all together to us, the people, so we know it's not going to make sense to the police officer that's trying to do it,
[01:53:46.640 --> 01:54:01.640]  to the lawyer that's trying to adjudicate it, to the judge that's trying to interpret it, and it's no wonder the people of Texas are getting steamrolled by you guys as a mass collection of gross stupidity all wearing nice suits.
[01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:03.640]  They probably don't even know what it means.
[01:54:03.640 --> 01:54:05.640]  I guarantee you they don't know what it means.
[01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:07.640]  Absolutely.
[01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:21.640]  That's all I really wanted to say and Eddie, that makes me pretty happy to know that you're actually so heavily involved in the draft.
[01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:23.640]  Excellent.
[01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:24.640]  That's all I can say.
[01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:25.640]  Thank you very much.
[01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:26.640]  All right.
[01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:27.640]  Thank you, Ty.
[01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:28.640]  Okay.
[01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:29.640]  We are moving on.
[01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:30.640]  We're going now to Rob in Connecticut.
[01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:31.640]  Rob, thanks for calling in.
[01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:34.640]  What's on your mind?
[01:54:34.640 --> 01:54:47.640]  Well, Randy, you let Randy from Texas slide on that question because as soon as he made that statement, I asked the exact same question, and then you verbalized that question right after I asked it.
[01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:53.640]  He said, we need to maintain the union, and you said, why do we need to maintain the union?
[01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:58.640]  And then when he finally answered, it was, oh, well, we need to maintain the Constitution.
[01:54:58.640 --> 01:54:59.640]  That wasn't the question.
[01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:02.640]  The question was, why do we need to maintain the union?
[01:55:02.640 --> 01:55:05.640]  And we do not need to maintain the union.
[01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:07.640]  We need people to be free.
[01:55:07.640 --> 01:55:27.640]  And if people in New England feel that they have a different way of doing things and they don't need to be told from Washington what to do, and it's different from what you do in Texas, then by all means, New England should secede and form their own republic, just as Texas should secede and be their own republic.
[01:55:27.640 --> 01:55:34.640]  And there is really hardly any reason today to maintain the union that was originally instituted.
[01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:40.640]  Well, see, the thing is, under our Constitution, it's supposed to be that way already.
[01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:44.640]  There's nothing in Constitution that says that we can't be free.
[01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:48.640]  And in fact, it's the federal government that's violating the Constitution.
[01:55:48.640 --> 01:55:59.640]  So I think that that was the point that, you know, let's try following the Constitution first in the Tenth Amendment, and if that doesn't work, well, then, you know, there's other measures to take.
[01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:03.640]  But it's not like there's anything wrong with the way things are set up.
[01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:04.640]  Yeah.
[01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:10.640]  If I may real quick, let me tell you why I said that we can charge them with sedition and treason.
[01:56:10.640 --> 01:56:11.640]  I read you treason.
[01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:13.640]  Let me read you sedition real quick.
[01:56:13.640 --> 01:56:14.640]  Oh, geez.
[01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:19.640]  You know, I went through that for the past 20 minutes with all these other calls. I got like maybe three minutes left.
[01:56:19.640 --> 01:56:21.640]  All right. Go ahead.
[01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:31.640]  All right. My point is, and a lot of people's point is, when we were formed as a union, it was against the British Empire.
[01:56:31.640 --> 01:56:36.640]  We needed to unify to fight the British Empire for our freedom.
[01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:40.640]  Well, we don't have that today. Our enemy now is Washington, D.C.
[01:56:40.640 --> 01:56:45.640]  They have taken the role that England had 200-plus years ago.
[01:56:45.640 --> 01:56:47.640]  You're here. You're here.
[01:56:47.640 --> 01:56:53.640]  What we really need is a 50-state recession, all 50 states to see from Washington at the same time,
[01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:58.640]  and then we can decide, you know, what parts of the country want to form together to make their own little republics.
[01:56:58.640 --> 01:57:00.640]  I think that's going to cause a lot of problems.
[01:57:00.640 --> 01:57:01.640]  Well, wait a minute. They're all republics already.
[01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:02.640]  Yeah.
[01:57:02.640 --> 01:57:04.640]  They're all sovereign individual states.
[01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:11.640]  We just agreed to get together for certain purposes to protect ourselves from outside aggression.
[01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.640]  That's what that union was for.
[01:57:15.640 --> 01:57:20.640]  We need to – I wouldn't have a problem with dissolving the union and creating another one.
[01:57:20.640 --> 01:57:26.640]  And that appeared to be what the New Jersey resolution pointed toward.
[01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:34.640]  If this union tries to overstep its aboundance and preempt the authority of the existing republics,
[01:57:34.640 --> 01:57:38.640]  let's fire them and replace them with another one.
[01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:45.640]  And the state of Maryland should erect a giant wall around Washington, D.C., and make that a prison.
[01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:54.640]  Actually, yeah, let's make it a 500-foot wall and then fill it up with water or cement.
[01:57:54.640 --> 01:58:00.640]  See, I think that these kinds of talks of secession can be absolutely problematic
[01:58:00.640 --> 01:58:05.640]  because I think that this is what the bad guys want us to do,
[01:58:05.640 --> 01:58:10.640]  is to initiate some kind of secession from the union or violence
[01:58:10.640 --> 01:58:15.640]  so that they can have an excuse to come in and stomp all over us and take away everything.
[01:58:15.640 --> 01:58:20.640]  I don't think that we need to succeed. I'm absolutely opposed to the idea.
[01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:24.640]  I think we need to be a little bit more informed and read the Constitution.
[01:58:24.640 --> 01:58:27.640]  And folks, really, if you want to learn about some states' rights,
[01:58:27.640 --> 01:58:31.640]  I got informed on some things that I had never learned before.
[01:58:31.640 --> 01:58:35.640]  Seriously, the documentary, Don't Tread on Me, Rise of the Republic,
[01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:41.640]  I would suggest to everyone to watch that because it's going to give you a lot of ideas
[01:58:41.640 --> 01:58:47.640]  of how we can use states' rights to really deal with these issues without resorting to secession.
[01:58:47.640 --> 01:58:52.640]  I know people out there are very frustrated, but I think that things like secession and violence
[01:58:52.640 --> 01:58:56.640]  those are exactly the kinds of things that the bad guys want us to do,
[01:58:56.640 --> 01:59:24.640]  so we've got to rise above that.
[01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:34.640]  I'd like to step in your way, don't watch my side, I'm dangerous, I'm dangerous
[01:59:34.640 --> 01:59:41.640]  I'd like to step in your way, don't watch my side, I'm dangerous, I'm dangerous
[01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:56.640]  I'd like to step in your way, don't watch my side, I'm dangerous